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| 00:01.17 | jhutchins_wk | awc737: http://bit.ly/tdSoGI |
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| 00:03.46 | awc737 | jhutchins_wk, no, you can not google that for me |
| 00:03.50 | awc737 | i already googled that for me |
| 00:03.57 | awc737 | let me google that for me |
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| 00:05.43 | jhutchins_wk | awc737: Well, I really couldn't explain "segfault" off the top of my head... |
| 00:06.21 | awc737 | it just sounds hardcore |
| 00:06.22 | jhutchins_wk | awc737: It is interesting that after hanging, it works. |
| 00:06.35 | awc737 | after hanging , force closing the terminal |
| 00:06.37 | awc737 | and running it again |
| 00:06.45 | awc737 | it gets up to line 31 the first time and hangs |
| 00:06.49 | awc737 | the second time I see apache restart |
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| 00:09.47 | jhutchins_wk | awc737: I would try executing each step in the file manually and seeing if you get an error. |
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| 00:10.17 | jhutchins_wk | awc737: My guess is that although it doesn't complete the first try, something is accomplished that makes the second try work. |
| 00:10.41 | jhutchins_wk | awc737: I'm thinking it may be a timing thing, and you may need a "sleep" command in there somewhere. |
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| 00:11.32 | jhutchins_wk | awc737: Where do you see the segfault? |
| 00:11.54 | awc737 | I agree, is bash asynconous? |
| 00:11.58 | awc737 | the segfault was a myth |
| 00:12.39 | awc737 | because it would take some time to a2ensite before restart should take place |
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| 00:17.59 | mekeor | is it difficult/dangerous/hard/bad to install an old version of a package, e.g. dolphin-1.7 (from kde-4.7.4) in the unstable branch? |
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| 00:21.51 | madarab1 | fuck you debian motherfuckers up your fuckin ass you goddamn crooked nigger dick suckin pieces of fuckin shit....fuck you censoring bastards..you deserve to die motherfuckers |
| 00:22.10 | mekeor | ok |
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| 00:22.42 | madarab1 | you motherfuckin pieces of fuckin shit |
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| 00:23.06 | mekeor | madarab1: can we help you? :) |
| 00:23.14 | BenNZ | someone needs a snickers |
| 00:23.15 | madarab1 | fuck you up your ass ..sorry bastards. |
| 00:23.23 | mekeor | sorry? hah |
| 00:23.38 | LtL | !ops madarab1 is on a obscene rant |
| 00:23.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ltl complains about: madarab1 is on a obscene rant |
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| 00:46.44 | looop | hello, there's a new debian every 2 years am I right ? |
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| 00:48.52 | scheibenkleister | hi, i use the lxde flavour of debian - when i alt-tab i only see the window frames - how can i see the window content too when alt-tabbing? |
| 00:48.57 | mekeor | looop: it's not a rule, i suppose. but historically, it seems so, yes. |
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| 00:49.15 | scheibenkleister | is that an issue of lxde or openbox (i think that's the windowmanager in use) |
| 00:49.35 | looop | ah ok ty mekeor, and after 2 yrs you still get security updates? |
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| 00:50.58 | mumpitzel | looop: you get security updates for one year after the next debian stable is released. |
| 00:51.13 | mumpitzel | this time it took 2 years for a new stable, but it's been 18months before |
| 00:51.23 | looop | thanks mumpitzel, this is great |
| 00:51.42 | looop | 3 years of no worry :) |
| 00:51.59 | mumpitzel | looop: more like 30 months |
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| 00:52.15 | looop | very nice |
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| 01:00.16 | _ffio_ | is their major difference between stable and testing branch of debian ? |
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| 01:00.29 | mumpitzel | _ffio_: yes |
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| 01:01.08 | _ffio_ | mumpitzel: can you pls tell what is it than ? |
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| 01:02.00 | histo | _ffio_: one is stable and one is testing |
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| 01:02.29 | histo | _ffio_: testing is the next release so newer packages are tested there. |
| 01:02.30 | _ffio_ | histo: that was funny :) |
| 01:02.38 | histo | _ffio_: well it's the truth |
| 01:02.49 | histo | _ffio_: and there is unstable guess what the difference is there. |
| 01:02.50 | _ffio_ | ok :) |
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| 01:03.17 | _ffio_ | histo: can we consider testing as pretty stable ? |
| 01:03.26 | histo | _ffio_: no I wouldn't |
| 01:03.38 | histo | _ffio_: as it gets closer to the next release then yes I would. |
| 01:04.09 | _ffio_ | ok so right now as the new edition is released recently so testing would not be considered stable. |
| 01:04.23 | innmalint | i'm upgrading my kernel, following some instructions that recommend cat'ing my old /boot/config to .config in my working directory that i will eventually compile. even when using sudo, i get permission denied, though |
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| 01:05.25 | mumpitzel | innmalint: why are you compiling your own kernel? |
| 01:05.28 | _ffio_ | thanks histo :) |
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| 01:05.49 | mumpitzel | innmalint: and give the full copy command and its resulting error |
| 01:06.00 | sevenfou1k | yeah, root question compiling kernel in Debian :) |
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| 01:06.17 | innmalint | hey mumpitzel i think you helped my misguided stupidity last time. http://linuxg.net/compile-kernel-3-9-on-debian-wheezy/ |
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| 01:07.12 | innmalint | i remember you recommended other ways of updating my kernel. this is the only one i've done succesfully before; is 3.9 available via package manager? |
| 01:07.26 | sevenfou1k | no |
| 01:07.42 | zaltekk | 3.2 |
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| 01:08.50 | mumpitzel | ,kernels |
| 01:08.50 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.8-trunk-686-pae (3.8.5-1~experimental.1); sid: 3.8-2-686-pae (3.8.13-1); jessie: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.41-2); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.41-2+deb7u2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.41-2+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze3) |
| 01:08.50 | jhutchins_wk | innmalint: The kernel developers have been foing a bit crazy with release number lately. Sit back, relax, run a patched kernel and be serene. |
| 01:09.33 | jhutchins_wk | Bigger version number != works better. |
| 01:09.39 | sevenfou1k | :-) |
| 01:10.09 | innmalint | I got this ridiculous gaming mouse for christmas, it locks up if I use the side buttons, and the only remedy so far has been upgrading my kernel. I'm on a new install currently with 3.2 -- are there easier ways than this "make oldconfig" and compile business? |
| 01:10.37 | mumpitzel | innmalint: what kernel version does this "special" hardware need? |
| 01:10.47 | mumpitzel | as you can see you can get 3.8 |
| 01:11.05 | innmalint | lol 3.8 worked perfectly fine last time but I compiled it |
| 01:11.10 | jhutchins_wk | innmalint: The solution is to find changes that address your specific hardware, not to blindly upgrade hoping it helps. |
| 01:11.13 | mumpitzel | then use 3.8 |
| 01:11.37 | jhutchins_wk | innmalint: Find the patch that affects your hardware, apply that to the current stable kernel, and run that. |
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| 01:12.05 | innmalint | I'm wildly guessing it falls under USB support in 3.2 v 3.8 -- I guess I could just patch it but I'm still naively learning (which is what I was told is the best way to learn linux ;) ) |
| 01:12.31 | jhutchins_wk | innmalint: changelogs |
| 01:12.48 | jhutchins_wk | innmalint: Find the patch that fixed your thing. |
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| 01:14.54 | innmalint | you peeled my curiosity jhutchins_wk: I googled my mouse name + linux changelog, only result is an arch forum post about it |
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| 01:17.52 | jhutchins_wk | Yeah, I had a problem that put a production server in a crash loop lately, and I fixed it, but I still don't know why. |
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| 01:18.07 | jeep | innmalint: if you know a newer kernel fixes it just compile one only takes a couple minutes .. im sure your not using a p2 |
| 01:18.35 | innmalint | ha no but it was noted that there is an easier way than compiling. it takes longer messing with oldconfig than anything. |
| 01:18.45 | innmalint | through dpkg i'm assuming |
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| 01:19.21 | jeep | compiling a kernel on a P1 was brutally slow .. |
| 01:19.55 | jhutchins_wk | For an I/O device, it's not likely to be the kernel. Maybe a driver. |
| 01:20.37 | innmalint | there's this: http://linuxg.net/install-linux-kernel-3-8-6-on-ubuntu-debian-and-linux-mint-operating-systems/ |
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| 01:24.19 | innmalint | well i'll be digging in to make oldconfig, i believe |
| 01:25.28 | jeep | innmalint:make localmodconfig is pretty sweeet touse also |
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| 01:26.00 | innmalint | jeep: just use it in lieu of oldconfig? |
| 01:26.56 | innmalint | ah and it looks like it bypasses trying to copy over /boot/config-'uname-r' which i was having a permissions error with. |
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| 01:27.28 | jeep | innmalint: i dont use oldconfig much i just make a new config usually |
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| 01:28.37 | innmalint | n |
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| 01:30.22 | converge | using cable internet connection is 100%, but using wireless it's very slow and losing packets (just in debian/linux), does someone knows what can be wrong ? |
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| 01:30.30 | converge | Im using wicd to connect |
| 01:31.09 | mumpitzel | which chip? |
| 01:31.26 | converge | mumpitzel: wireless card ? |
| 01:31.31 | mumpitzel | no. chip |
| 01:32.22 | converge | mumpitzel: which chip ? |
| 01:32.46 | mumpitzel | what chip does your wlan use? |
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| 01:34.11 | converge | mumpitzel: where can I see it? |
| 01:34.45 | mumpitzel | lspci -nn |
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| 01:34.53 | johnfg | hey folks |
| 01:35.00 | mekeor | hi johnfg :) |
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| 01:35.28 | converge | mumpitzel: RTL 8187 realtek |
| 01:35.35 | johnfg | After my son plays supertux, the screen is left in a real poor resolution. Any way to fix it other than logging out and back in? |
| 01:35.40 | johnfg | Hi mekeor ! |
| 01:37.37 | jhutchins_wk | converge: Radio noise |
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| 01:37.56 | jhutchins_wk | johnfg: restart X |
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| 01:38.09 | converge | jhutchins_wk: i dont think so, because Im using it on a mac and it's 100% |
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| 01:39.29 | jhutchins_wk | converge: and you know for certain that there is no source of RFI in your area. That's really good, most humans can't sense that. |
| 01:40.25 | converge | jhutchins_wk: should have some, but why it doesnt influence my connection on my mac too ? |
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| 01:41.10 | jeeves_moss | how do I make a software RAID1 with MDADM and then DD the data over from the single source drive? |
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| 01:41.55 | mekeor | jhutchins_wk, johnfg: well, logging out and back in is the same as restarting x.. |
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| 01:43.12 | jhutchins_wk | mekeor: No. |
| 01:43.26 | mekeor | why not? |
| 01:43.35 | mekeor | it comes to the same, doesn't it? |
| 01:44.17 | jeeves_moss | jhutchins_wk, any ideas on this raid issues? |
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| 01:51.26 | schwupp | hi, do you recommend to put "noatime" into /etc/fstab? |
| 01:51.47 | abrotman | depends on the filesystem in qusetion and what it does |
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| 01:52.40 | schwupp | abrotman: ext4, it is my / - i have everything in one partition |
| 01:53.20 | schwupp | abrotman: i have a swap partition too |
| 01:54.43 | rryoumaa | there is also another option i think, which is slightly less troublesome than noatime |
| 01:54.48 | rryoumaa | relatime or something |
| 01:54.57 | schwupp | rryoumaa: troublesome? |
| 01:55.01 | rryoumaa | i find atime useful on rare occasions |
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| 01:55.31 | themill | relatime is probably better than noatime |
| 01:55.40 | rryoumaa | like, when did i last watch that video? if i didn't record the watching. or even "did i recursively grep this?" |
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| 01:56.43 | schwupp | just installed preload - libreoffice got sooo much faster to start Oo - wow |
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| 01:57.02 | schwupp | i will go with relatime then |
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| 01:58.10 | schwupp | i will try if it increases my performance, and the leave it or change it back |
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| 01:58.54 | schwupp | are ther any security/stability concerns when using relatime? |
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| 02:00.28 | rryoumaa | schwupp: unlikely, but there might be some package out there that requires accurate atime |
| 02:01.04 | rryoumaa | most opiners hate how slow atime is; i am in the minority for finding it useful |
| 02:01.17 | rryoumaa | and i will probably go ahead and do relatime :) |
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| 02:02.14 | themill | (mount(8) tells me that "relatime" is the default implementation of atime anyway now) |
| 02:02.42 | rryoumaa | ah |
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| 02:03.48 | schwupp | ok, so i am pretty safe to use relatime - it's for my sisters laptop - all she does is some browsing, mail, libreooffice, mulitmedia blah blah - i just want to make the system a bit more snappy |
| 02:03.58 | schwupp | it's a lenovo ideapad s12 |
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| 02:05.31 | schwupp | does the order of flags in fstab change anything? |
| 02:05.49 | schwupp | i mean, is the order of flags important? |
| 02:05.58 | jeep | schwupp: no |
| 02:06.29 | schwupp | should/can i use relatime for swap partition too? |
| 02:06.31 | schwupp | jeep: ok, thank you |
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| 02:09.42 | schwupp | themill: the manpage says |
| 02:09.43 | schwupp | Since Linux 2.6.30, the kernel defaults to the behavior provided by this option |
| 02:09.51 | schwupp | so i don't have to set it anymore? |
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| 02:12.24 | jeep | schwupp: i would set it just because the kernel maintainers may have changed it |
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| 02:14.15 | burton` | I'm using a new debian tesing install and I'd like to unmap Ctrl-/ from Del so I can use that in emacs as undo. I've searched for the setting in /etc/defaults/keyboard with no luck. Any idea on how to make Ctrl-/ act like Ctrl-/ and not Del? |
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| 02:14.33 | rryoumaa | there is no concept of atime for swap, right? |
| 02:14.49 | burton` | rryoumaa: no |
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| 02:15.00 | rryoumaa | of course swap files can have atime. by the way why are swap partitions necessary when swap files are said to be as fast? |
| 02:15.34 | mumpitze1 | swap files can never be as dast |
| 02:15.36 | mumpitze1 | *fast |
| 02:15.49 | rryoumaa | they supposedly pass right through to the kernel somehow |
| 02:16.11 | schwupp | jeep: ok, thx |
| 02:16.47 | mumpitze1 | swap partitions are guaranteed to be contiguous, swap files can't be |
| 02:16.58 | schwupp | ok |
| 02:17.08 | schwupp | so no relatime for swap |
| 02:17.53 | schwupp | thank you all |
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| 02:37.00 | johnfg | I tried alt+PrtSc+K to restart X, but it only took a screen shot! |
| 02:37.54 | johnfg | I logged out and logged back in, but there should be some equivalent, I would think, to the old ctrl+alt+Bkspace to restart X |
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| 02:40.39 | gnarface | JohnDoh: there is no equivalent or alternative. ctrl-alt-backspace is just no longer enabled by default. check the xorg.conf manpage for "dontzap" or something like that |
| 02:41.27 | abrotman | !tell johnfg about dontzap |
| 02:42.06 | gnarface | JohnDoh: alternatively you can still ctrl-alt-fN (where N is 2-6 typically) and then alt-f1 then ctrl-c to kill it manually. |
| 02:43.36 | gnarface | JohnDoh: but neither of those will help you if you have IO locked nvidia binary drivers |
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| 02:44.36 | johnfg | thanks guys (johnfg, not JohnDoh :-)) |
| 02:45.05 | gnarface | woops, my bad |
| 02:45.13 | abrotman | got the right name! |
| 02:45.19 | gnarface | JohnDoh: sorry, ignore me |
| 02:45.37 | cusco | there is also a sysRq combination to do that... |
| 02:45.43 | johnfg | abrotman: you're the 'abrot' man! |
| 02:46.05 | johnfg | cusco: That's what didn't work for me. |
| 02:46.27 | johnfg | cusco: alt+Sys Rq+K |
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| 02:46.35 | cusco | ow.. sorry |
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| 02:49.00 | abrotman | johnfg: all sorted out ? |
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| 02:51.22 | johnfg | ya, dpkg made it clear. Does using ctrl-alt-Backspace restart it 'in place', or does it take one back to gdm? |
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| 03:01.34 | gnarface | johnfg: i'm pretty sure it technically hard-quits X, so if you don't get dropped to a console then its probably gdm or some dm catching you, yes |
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| 03:21.17 | Sulfurix | So what's the widgets stuff in KDE named? is it possible to remove it? |
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| 03:22.42 | Nothing_Much | Does the latest release of Debian default to XFCE? |
| 03:22.52 | mayhew | no, GNOME |
| 03:23.26 | Nothing_Much | Oh, I heard from somewhere it switched because of gnome not fitting on a cd |
| 03:23.47 | mayhew | it switched for like a month last year |
| 03:23.53 | mayhew | before Wheezy was released |
| 03:24.05 | sjd_zeus | i use debian wheezy+xfce4 |
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| 03:33.57 | Noturno99 | hey guys, how gnome detects devices and mount them automatically? here is not working |
| 03:34.16 | Noturno99 | I have updated to gnome3.8 |
| 03:34.24 | cusco | gnome-volume-manager |
| 03:34.30 | cusco | if I recall right |
| 03:34.43 | Noturno99 | thanks, I will try and I'll be back in 5 minutes! |
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| 03:36.04 | Noturno99 | I cannot find it |
| 03:36.12 | Noturno99 | cusco I cannot find it |
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| 03:38.38 | Noturno99 | it works for external hd, but not for memory card from my camera |
| 03:38.43 | Noturno99 | any ideas ? |
| 03:38.51 | ghostbar | Noturno99: it may be related to your reader |
| 03:39.16 | ghostbar | try running dmesg and checking the output it gives to you |
| 03:39.32 | Noturno99 | it was working before updating the gnome... |
| 03:39.42 | ghostbar | Noturno99: I had that issues on my Thinkpad X61, it was not working because of some issue |
| 03:39.43 | Noturno99 | it's weird |
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| 03:39.52 | ghostbar | Noturno99: it may have stopped working. Shit happens :-) |
| 03:40.01 | Noturno99 | hahahahah |
| 03:40.06 | Noturno99 | but did you solve it? |
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| 03:41.24 | Noturno99 | I have the device here: scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access USB2.0 CardReader COMBO 0100 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 |
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| 03:41.31 | Noturno99 | is there a way to mount it ? |
| 03:41.50 | ghostbar | insert the memory on your reader and then run dmesg |
| 03:41.54 | darinschmidt | anyone here know much about raids? the other channels seem pretty dead today |
| 03:41.57 | ghostbar | it must say if it runs or anything |
| 03:42.17 | ghostbar | Noturno99: I did not solve it, I just started using a USB reader |
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| 03:42.31 | ghostbar | darinschmidt: what about RAID? Just ask ;-) |
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| 03:42.32 | Noturno99 | I did it, I put the code up here |
| 03:42.50 | ghostbar | Noturno99: oh, that does not say much. No error nor anything? |
| 03:42.56 | Noturno99 | no error .. |
| 03:43.00 | ghostbar | what about /var/log/syslog? |
| 03:43.08 | fluffybunnyuk_ | morning all asthmatics |
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| 03:43.15 | ghostbar | or /var/log/messages? |
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| 03:43.59 | darinschmidt | ok, i have a m1015 raid controller with 6 disks (raid 5), R/W performance is around 600MB/s, i was thinking of getting an expander to get 16 disks. If i get an expander wit a total of 16 disks, will that improve the R/W speeds or is that going to be limited by the card, since 600MB/s is close to 6Gb/s |
| 03:44.06 | Noturno99 | nothing here... |
| 03:44.30 | ghostbar | Noturno99: that's really weird. It should say at least that's recognizing a new device or whatever |
| 03:44.43 | Noturno99 | yes, that's true |
| 03:44.55 | Noturno99 | this is driving me nuts |
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| 03:45.10 | zaltekk | have you recently installed a new kernel(and thus removed the old one) without rebooting? |
| 03:45.27 | zaltekk | thereby causing any modules the current kernel is trying to load for the device to not be found |
| 03:45.35 | Noturno99 | I have a new kernel but I still have the old one |
| 03:45.36 | SirCmpwn | so I just installed debian on a computer that is destined to become a server |
| 03:45.39 | fluffybunnyuk_ | darinschmidt its a bit more complex than that |
| 03:45.47 | SirCmpwn | but I'm having internet issues with it |
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| 03:46.07 | darinschmidt | fluffy: could you explain for me? |
| 03:46.11 | fluffybunnyuk_ | u have expander to card transers, internal/disconnect transfers and card to system transfers |
| 03:46.12 | SirCmpwn | tried setting up /etc/network/interfaces for DHCP according to this: http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Using_DHCP_to_automatically_configure_the_interface |
| 03:46.18 | zaltekk | Noturno99: the old kernel modules are still present? |
| 03:46.32 | SirCmpwn | but when I do ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0, it fails to figure out DHCP |
| 03:46.37 | fluffybunnyuk_ | i have 16way raid 6 and i get over the limit often |
| 03:46.40 | SirCmpwn | and then I can't resolve hostnames and what not, so the nets are indeed down |
| 03:46.44 | Noturno99 | I am not sure. I mean that I have the old kernel in the system |
| 03:46.54 | ghostbar | SirCmpwn: but you can ping? |
| 03:46.56 | darinschmidt | fluffy: what kind of speeds are you hitting? |
| 03:47.07 | zaltekk | Noturno99: i bet rebooting will fix your issue |
| 03:47.11 | fluffybunnyuk_ | 2gb/sec |
| 03:47.16 | Noturno99 | I tried it, and nothing .... |
| 03:47.20 | SirCmpwn | ghostbar: no, it can't resolve google.com when I 'ping google.com' |
| 03:47.23 | ghostbar | SirCmpwn: if you can ping then your issues is on /etc/resolv.conf |
| 03:47.24 | darinschmidt | Gb or GB? |
| 03:47.30 | zaltekk | don't know then :P |
| 03:47.32 | ghostbar | SirCmpwn: but can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
| 03:47.42 | fluffybunnyuk_ | Gigabytes/sec |
| 03:48.07 | darinschmidt | wow, and thats a 6Gb/s card? hows that possible? |
| 03:48.14 | SirCmpwn | no |
| 03:48.18 | SirCmpwn | "Network is unreachable" |
| 03:48.22 | fluffybunnyuk_ | cos the data isnt coming onto the system |
| 03:48.25 | SirCmpwn | also cannot ping other computers in my network |
| 03:48.42 | SirCmpwn | I'm fairly sure it failed to get DHCP going |
| 03:48.44 | darinschmidt | oh i c, i think im starting to understand now |
| 03:48.45 | ghostbar | SirCmpwn: what about dhcp<TAB> eth0 or whatever interface? |
| 03:49.00 | ghostbar | SirCmpwn: does that get your DHCP running? |
| 03:49.07 | fluffybunnyuk_ | once u figure in all the drive caches the card cache and everything else it effects things alot |
| 03:49.09 | SirCmpwn | no tab complete on "dhcp" |
| 03:49.23 | SirCmpwn | and "dhcp" itself isn't there |
| 03:49.24 | zaltekk | dhclient |
| 03:49.25 | darinschmidt | since its transfering straight to disk, you can achieve higher speeds than 6GB/s? |
| 03:49.29 | zaltekk | not dhcp |
| 03:49.39 | ghostbar | SirCmpwn: ^ :-) |
| 03:49.40 | darinschmidt | since its not passing through the buss and such |
| 03:49.43 | SirCmpwn | running that now |
| 03:49.46 | fluffybunnyuk_ | yup |
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| 03:50.03 | fluffybunnyuk_ | though probably its sat in cache until its emptied |
| 03:50.08 | darinschmidt | ok so then if data passes through the bus, say from a network connection, then it would be limited to 6Gb/s, right |
| 03:50.10 | zaltekk | i'm guessing dhcp^I was for dhcpcd? |
| 03:50.21 | fluffybunnyuk_ | so it probably hits the max 6Gb/sec theoretical |
| 03:50.29 | darinschmidt | i c |
| 03:50.51 | darinschmidt | the reason i ask is because im goign to be installign infiniband in my house, and would like to maximize the network connection and raid |
| 03:50.53 | fluffybunnyuk_ | yup i usually do blueray dvd copies for benchmarking |
| 03:51.06 | zaltekk | you really need infiniband at home? |
| 03:51.24 | darinschmidt | lol, yeah, its for a testing environment for a busines sim trying to start up |
| 03:51.32 | darinschmidt | 20Gb/s Ib |
| 03:51.44 | zaltekk | i think it's "bluray" not "blueray dvd" :P |
| 03:51.45 | SirCmpwn | problem was faulty network cable |
| 03:51.46 | zaltekk | dvd is completely different |
| 03:51.51 | fluffybunnyuk_ | lol i think ur pc is the prblem |
| 03:52.06 | SirCmpwn | that's what I get for making my own ethernet cables |
| 03:52.08 | SirCmpwn | thanks for the help |
| 03:52.13 | ghostbar | SirCmpwn: ;-) |
| 03:52.22 | fluffybunnyuk_ | finding something that can handle 20gGb/sec across the bus :D |
| 03:52.32 | darinschmidt | well |
| 03:52.46 | fluffybunnyuk_ | mine only handles 8Gb/sec |
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| 03:53.16 | zaltekk | the last time i saw infiniband it was in the supercomputer at my old school |
| 03:53.21 | darinschmidt | what im planning on doing is, building a system with 2-3 raid controllers, with expanders, consisting of 16 drives each, using zfs to make them one pool. from my understanding, it should attempt to wrrite to every disk in the pool even though they are separate raid controllers |
| 03:53.39 | fluffybunnyuk_ | 2-3 raid controllers will give u bios issues most likely :D |
| 03:54.29 | Noturno99 | zaltekk I've got it here |
| 03:54.34 | zaltekk | darinschmidt: freebsd? |
| 03:54.37 | johnfg | anyone ever think of porting wgetpaste for debian? |
| 03:54.43 | darinschmidt | zal: solaris |
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| 03:54.46 | Noturno99 | I just mounted the sdb device |
| 03:54.49 | johnfg | It sure is a convenience. |
| 03:54.49 | zaltekk | :o |
| 03:54.55 | Noturno99 | but, how can I make it automatically like my hd? |
| 03:54.59 | fluffybunnyuk_ | id use xfs myself cos im assuming u have a UPS by default |
| 03:55.02 | darinschmidt | well if im reading it right, the bus speed of pcie is 16GB/s |
| 03:55.07 | ghostbar | Noturno99: what you made? |
| 03:55.41 | darinschmidt | fluff, i dont have a ups et, will be ordering one in a week or so. i thought about xfs but i like the features of zfs with batarot and such |
| 03:55.42 | Noturno99 | I just mounted the sdb device |
| 03:55.57 | darinschmidt | bitrot* |
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| 03:56.12 | fluffybunnyuk_ | i never tried zfs but i know the bigger xfs gets the better it trots along |
| 03:56.13 | darinschmidt | but i dont now xfs as well as i do zfs |
| 03:56.31 | fluffybunnyuk_ | whats zfs like at those kind of loads? |
| 03:56.32 | Noturno99 | in /var/log I've found this: kernel: [17632.951980] sdb: detected capacity change from 15931539456 to 0 |
| 03:56.40 | Noturno99 | So, I gave it a try |
| 03:56.44 | Noturno99 | It works... |
| 03:56.50 | Noturno99 | but, how can I make it auto? |
| 03:56.57 | Noturno99 | when I connect my card |
| 03:57.04 | fluffybunnyuk_ | but yeah it'll work fine provided the system can boot with 3 raid cards :D |
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| 03:57.45 | darinschmidt | lol |
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| 04:04.17 | SirCmpwn | all better |
| 04:04.37 | SirCmpwn | it's best not to switch cat5e wire layout standards between each end of the cable |
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| 04:08.31 | gnarface | hah |
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| 04:09.42 | SirCmpwn | remind me what the syntax is for adding a user to the sudoers file |
| 04:09.52 | veek | when compiling vim, should i go for gnome2 or gtk |
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| 04:10.34 | ghostbar | veek: for bash or zsh |
| 04:10.39 | veek | i don't use either directly but i use stuff like Xchat and Xchm.. |
| 04:10.51 | veek | peers at ghostbar |
| 04:11.22 | ghostbar | veek: don't know why you should choose gtk or gnome2? |
| 04:11.52 | veek | i like a gui once in a while.. buttons and stuff |
| 04:11.58 | LtL | SirCmpwn: user ALL=(ALL) ALL |
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| 04:12.12 | SirCmpwn | ty |
| 04:12.19 | LtL | SirCmpwn: np |
| 04:12.25 | SirCmpwn | does debian come with opendns or something? |
| 04:12.35 | SirCmpwn | because after I brought up my interfaces, other computers on my network started having issues |
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| 04:12.44 | SirCmpwn | something weird is up :/ |
| 04:12.45 | ghostbar | SirCmpwn: no |
| 04:12.56 | ghostbar | SirCmpwn: DNS are asigned by your DHCP |
| 04:13.02 | SirCmpwn | yeah |
| 04:13.08 | SirCmpwn | that was weird |
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| 04:13.59 | Noturno99 | hey guys, what happens when I plug a card, I mean, what does the kernel do? |
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| 04:14.39 | SirCmpwn | oh gosh, I'm a dumbass |
| 04:14.44 | SirCmpwn | I told it to use the wrong IP |
| 04:14.50 | SirCmpwn | my IP, actually |
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| 04:14.56 | SirCmpwn | naturally, this caused problems |
| 04:15.08 | SirCmpwn | not sure where opendns came in to play, though |
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| 04:29.50 | mmnicolas | Nothing_Much: it detects something new is plugged, attempt to load an appropriate driver module ? |
| 04:29.51 | gnarface | SirCmpwn: clear networks 4g LTE wireless internet modem service devices use OpenDNS by default. you using a clear hub express, perchance? |
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| 04:30.07 | SirCmpwn | nope |
| 04:30.15 | gnarface | sprint maybe? |
| 04:30.17 | gnarface | (same hardware) |
| 04:30.29 | SirCmpwn | I certainly hope I'm not setting up a server on a mobile phone network |
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| 04:30.45 | SirCmpwn | my network is running on netgear, dlink, and arris hardware |
| 04:31.21 | mmnicolas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:32.11 | relipse | I just installed wheezy how can I transform it into a lamp server? |
| 04:32.46 | SirCmpwn | start by considering if that's really a good idea |
| 04:32.49 | SirCmpwn | hint: it's not |
| 04:33.07 | gnarface | relipse: apt-get install php5 mysql-server php5-mysql |
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| 04:33.35 | SirCmpwn | don't forget apache |
| 04:33.37 | mmnicolas | relipse: http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp |
| 04:33.46 | gnarface | SirCmpwn: it picks apache by default |
| 04:33.51 | SirCmpwn | that's silly |
| 04:33.54 | SirCmpwn | ngix is far better |
| 04:34.06 | gnarface | SirCmpwn: you're a child. you'll learn better when you grow up. |
| 04:34.07 | relipse | ok first how do i get ssh working? |
| 04:34.13 | mmnicolas | isnt nginx a reverse proxy ? |
| 04:34.14 | SirCmpwn | I wouldn't select any web server by default |
| 04:34.16 | SirCmpwn | gnarface: thanks, love you too |
| 04:34.17 | atula | After I upgraded to debian 7, grub is dead :/ I cannot boot into machine. I'm trying to reinstall grub but I had a raid-1 for my /boot |
| 04:34.30 | relipse | i've installed debian wheezy in virtual box, how do i ssh into it? |
| 04:34.32 | atula | I loaded debian livecd |
| 04:34.50 | atula | but it's getting kind of ridiculous that this is so difficult! |
| 04:35.00 | gnarface | SirCmpwn: if you use the php5-cli package instead, it does not pick any web server by default, FYI |
| 04:35.11 | SirCmpwn | noted |
| 04:35.15 | relipse | i'm getting errors like package php5 is not available but is referred to by another package |
| 04:35.23 | SirCmpwn | I don't use PHP since I know better, but I'll keep that in mind if I ever need to discourage more people from using it |
| 04:35.42 | mmnicolas | atula: oh yea, happened to me too, symbol div_mod64 something error ? |
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| 04:35.54 | atula | mmnicolas, yyyeeaaah! |
| 04:36.10 | relipse | package php5 has no installation candidate |
| 04:36.23 | atula | mmnicolas, how did you fix it? |
| 04:36.35 | mmnicolas | apparently this is because we use a strange boot order, in my case, the boot drive is on ide and the others on sata |
| 04:36.55 | gnarface | relipse: that's not good. lets see the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file (please use paste.debian.net) |
| 04:37.13 | gnarface | relipse: i'm assuming you ran "apt-get update" once first |
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| 04:37.33 | mmnicolas | I reinstalled grub from the live-cd, did you end up at a working grub shell ? |
| 04:37.49 | relipse | how do i paste from shell, i can't copy and paste inside vmbox? |
| 04:37.56 | relipse | how do i send output to paste site |
| 04:38.00 | mmnicolas | just type in the boot lines in there and reinstall grub for good once you're in there |
| 04:38.38 | gnarface | relipse: uh, use the pastebinit app, but you'll have to change the default configuration to point to paste.debian.net to use it. (uses pastebin by default; not a big deal for our purposes its just that it has advertisements) |
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| 04:39.05 | atula | mmnicolas, what boot lines? |
| 04:39.16 | atula | mmnicolas, I was following this guide: http://www.av8n.com/computer/htm/grub-reinstall.htm |
| 04:39.37 | gnarface | relipse: also, fyi gpm will give you a mouse cursor at your console with copy&paste capabilities, but if this is all you'd use it for, pastebinit is a better choice |
| 04:39.42 | mmnicolas | root(hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro etc |
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| 04:39.53 | relipse | gpm : command not found |
| 04:40.00 | mmnicolas | atula: where are you know |
| 04:40.01 | gnarface | relipse: (gpm is also a package) |
| 04:40.03 | mmnicolas | *now |
| 04:40.32 | atula | mmnicolas, I'm in my room wearing only boxer and sitting over my old tower... |
| 04:40.37 | gnarface | relipse: you can search for packages with: apt-cache search [package name] |
| 04:40.40 | atula | mmnicolas, I'm kidding… restarting livecd again |
| 04:40.43 | paranoidphreak | hi everybody, i want to replace firestarter with gufw firewall; do i have to do anything before installing gufw or all i need to do is uninstall firestarter and install gufw? |
| 04:40.49 | atula | mmnicolas, for the 1000000th times |
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| 04:41.01 | mmnicolas | atula: you realize you're following slackware documentation |
| 04:41.02 | gnarface | relipse: actually its: apt-cache search [regexp] |
| 04:41.08 | atula | mmnicolas, NO!!!! |
| 04:41.15 | relipse | well it think my sources.list is screwed |
| 04:41.17 | relipse | it is not very long |
| 04:41.18 | mmnicolas | oh ok |
| 04:41.20 | relipse | only has 4 sources |
| 04:41.22 | atula | mmnicolas, is there a better guide? |
| 04:41.34 | atula | mmnicolas, I just want things to work again |
| 04:41.38 | gnarface | relipse: hang on i'll paste mine |
| 04:41.42 | atula | I'm regretting the upgrade to debian 7 |
| 04:41.44 | mmnicolas | atula: what livecd is this ? |
| 04:41.52 | atula | this is the debian livecd |
| 04:41.59 | atula | aaaaaannnd it's asking for username |
| 04:42.09 | relipse | "A network mirror was not selected during install. THe following entries...." |
| 04:42.11 | atula | wtf… sometimes the livecd ask for login sometimes not |
| 04:42.27 | relipse | can you paste it plain text somewhere so i can use it using wget |
| 04:42.46 | gnarface | http://paste.debian.net/7742/ |
| 04:42.49 | gnarface | relipse: ^^^^ |
| 04:42.50 | mmnicolas | atula: user/live |
| 04:43.07 | gnarface | relipse: its not long |
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| 04:43.31 | gnarface | relipse: better that you copy it by hand and examine the differences with yours to see why yours didn't work |
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| 04:45.59 | innociv | I'm trying to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy. After apt-get update, and proceeding with upgrade, it goes to "Reading changelogs... Done", shows me changelogs, but I don't see how to continue |
| 04:46.10 | innociv | If I ctrl+c out of the change log, it just seems to pause |
| 04:46.23 | gnarface | innociv: the key you were looking for is 'q' |
| 04:46.27 | innociv | oh |
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| 04:46.48 | mmnicolas | atula: is it working ? |
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| 04:47.00 | relipse | i ocopied your file verbatim and i'm still getting package php5 is not available |
| 04:47.10 | relipse | Package 'php5' has no installation candidate |
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| 04:47.31 | gnarface | relipse: did you remember to run "apt-get update" after putting my file in place? |
| 04:47.44 | relipse | oh that seems to be working |
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| 04:48.37 | gnarface | relipse: changes are not automatically read in by default. you have to remember to run "apt-get update" first every time (or just use aptitude instead) |
| 04:49.35 | relipse | ok it says 100% waiting for headers |
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| 04:49.47 | gnarface | just be patient. its slow if you don't have a lot of ram |
| 04:50.13 | atula | mmnicolas, I definitely tried that |
| 04:50.20 | relipse | its a virtual box |
| 04:50.24 | atula | but it didn't work |
| 04:50.30 | atula | I don't know what's the deal is |
| 04:50.34 | relipse | ok its done |
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| 04:50.52 | gnarface | relipse: ok, now try the apt-get command again. it should work this time |
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| 04:51.11 | relipse | can i get php 5.4 or no? |
| 04:51.22 | gnarface | wheezy is php 5.4 |
| 04:51.26 | atula | I also just saw a bat flying into my attic |
| 04:51.26 | relipse | sweeeeeeet |
| 04:51.28 | atula | then dissappeared |
| 04:51.30 | atula | oh gosh |
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| 04:51.36 | atula | what kind of world is this?! |
| 04:51.53 | atula | Do I install grub or go hunt for the damn bat in my attic?! |
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| 04:51.58 | gnarface | atula: a world with bats |
| 04:52.04 | gnarface | atula: lol! |
| 04:52.09 | atula | it's gone!!! |
| 04:52.11 | gnarface | atula: keep your attic closed |
| 04:52.15 | atula | I can't find either grub or the fling bat |
| 04:52.16 | gnarface | atula: that will be a lesson to you |
| 04:52.17 | mmnicolas | atula: try ctrl-alt-f1, because that's really what it is: http://live.debian.net/manual/stable/html/live-manual.en.html#503 |
| 04:52.40 | relipse | how do i copy and paste into virtual box |
| 04:52.43 | relipse | i have no gui |
| 04:52.43 | Sulfurix | what |
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| 04:52.57 | gnarface | relipse: put it in a text file and scp it |
| 04:53.03 | Sulfurix | Damn, i cant mount a partion of my hdd |
| 04:53.16 | Sulfurix | oh google how i love you |
| 04:53.31 | paranoidphreak | hi everybody, i want to replace firestarter with gufw firewall; do i have to do anything before installing gufw or all i need to do is uninstall firestarter and install gufw? |
| 04:53.33 | mmnicolas | relipse: use virtualbox's shared folder thing |
| 04:53.58 | mmnicolas | paranoidphreak: most likely |
| 04:53.58 | atula | while livecd is loading, I must go find the bat with a huge trash bag |
| 04:54.02 | relipse | thanks |
| 04:54.09 | gnarface | relipse: another common trick is to open a text editor inside your ssh terminal and paste through that |
| 04:54.10 | atula | I'm going to catch that thing |
| 04:54.21 | relipse | how do I figure out my ip address in my vmbox ? |
| 04:54.30 | relipse | so i can browse to web server |
| 04:54.44 | gnarface | relipse: usually you can print all interfaces with: /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 04:54.56 | gnarface | relipse: but it depends on your ISP whether that is your public ip or not |
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| 04:55.27 | paranoidphreak | mmnicolas: is there anyway to reset firewall rules to when the OS was first installed? |
| 04:55.34 | gnarface | relipse: you could also just wget 'whatismyip.com' and check the html for your ip |
| 04:55.44 | relipse | ok cool thanks |
| 04:55.50 | paranoidphreak | mmnicolas: like the iptables |
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| 04:55.58 | relipse | i should have got screen first off |
| 04:56.24 | gnarface | relipse: you should be allowed to open multiple terminals |
| 04:56.45 | mmnicolas | paranoidphreak: theses programs your using are merely front-ends for iptables, once removed, they shouldnt continue to apply iptables rules when interfaces are brought up |
| 04:56.51 | gnarface | relipse: theyd have to be real cheapskates to only allow one ssh connection at a time |
| 04:57.30 | gnarface | relipse: don't tell me you're using their web-based terminal |
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| 04:58.07 | gnarface | relipse: if you're on windows, use putty, if you're on a mac use /Applications/Utilities/Terminal.app |
| 04:58.13 | atula | good news, I think the bat left. bad news…. I'm not sure if the bat is gone or just hiding somewhere |
| 04:58.17 | atula | freakin' bat. |
| 04:58.48 | paranoidphreak | mmnicolas: ok, thanks....i'll do more research |
| 04:58.50 | gnarface | atula: they mostly only come out at night... mostly. |
| 04:58.52 | relipse | how do i get my network ip address |
| 04:59.09 | atula | gnarface, come on… |
| 04:59.11 | relipse | no i'm using vmbox right now |
| 04:59.18 | gnarface | relipse: as i already mentioned: /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 04:59.54 | mmnicolas | what is the guest os |
| 04:59.56 | relipse | gnarface but its not 192.168.** |
| 04:59.57 | gnarface | relipse: if you have a public ip on the virtual box, it will match what whatismyip.com reports |
| 05:00.05 | relipse | i dont want my public ip |
| 05:00.15 | gnarface | relipse: you *may* only have a public ip |
| 05:00.19 | relipse | i want my internal network ip so i can go to the webserver |
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| 05:00.58 | relipse | how do i ssh into my vbox debian? |
| 05:01.21 | mmnicolas | how do you ssh into any box ?! |
| 05:01.25 | gnarface | relipse: typically by the public ip... |
| 05:01.41 | relipse | that doesnt make sense because my windows box will have the same ip |
| 05:01.51 | relipse | it should be 192.168.1.*** |
| 05:02.04 | gnarface | oh you mean from inside the host system? |
| 05:02.12 | gnarface | and your host system is a windows box? |
| 05:02.17 | gnarface | fuck if i know dude... sorrry |
| 05:02.26 | mmnicolas | IIRC virtualbox default network setup is isolated |
| 05:02.30 | gnarface | probably windows has a way to list the ip addresses currently assigned to the box... probably |
| 05:02.38 | atula | mmnicolas, okay, got livecd and sudo su. all good to start again. |
| 05:02.52 | atula | mmnicolas, cat /proc/mdstat looks good |
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| 05:03.22 | atula | mmnicolas, what now? mount the old boot point? |
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| 05:04.09 | mmnicolas | atula: not even normal partitions on top of that, but yes, mount the partition known to contain the /boot |
| 05:04.09 | innociv | "sudo: reboot: command not found" What? How? |
| 05:04.14 | innociv | I did dist-upgrade and I have no reboot? |
| 05:04.51 | gnarface | innociv: i forget what package its in. shutdown -r now should still work though |
| 05:05.23 | mmnicolas | both are from 'sysvinit' |
| 05:05.29 | innociv | Actually It looks like I have some errors as well |
| 05:05.29 | atula | mmnicolas, it's /dev/md125. mounted at /home/user/fixgrub |
| 05:05.29 | themill | innociv: upgrade from squeeze to wheezy? |
| 05:05.35 | innociv | themill, yeah |
| 05:05.47 | themill | innociv: did you read the release notes? |
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| 05:06.30 | mmnicolas | who did :) |
| 05:06.42 | innociv | http://pastebin.com/P5SdTnEG |
| 05:06.45 | innociv | No. I just followed a guide |
| 05:07.17 | themill | perhaps you should follow the release notes next time :( |
| 05:07.19 | themill | dpkg: tell innociv about sudo path |
| 05:07.49 | themill | (which which was also in the NEWS file for sudo and you would also have had a dpkg conffile prompt that you ignored) |
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| 05:08.40 | innociv | :x |
| 05:09.11 | cusco | intel |
| 05:10.09 | atula | mmnicolas, okay I can see the grub directory and the grub.cfg file. But I'm afraid I don't know where to continue. Do you know of a resource/docs I can read to get through this? |
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| 05:12.19 | mmnicolas | atula: grub-install --boot-directory=/media/mountpointofsdXX /dev/sdX |
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| 05:12.36 | atula | mmnicolas, I don't do /dev/md125 for raid? |
| 05:13.15 | innociv | Thanks |
| 05:13.28 | mmnicolas | I am totally unfamiliar with that kind of partitionning |
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| 05:14.07 | relipse | sweet i got it!! |
| 05:14.10 | relipse | had to change networking |
| 05:14.11 | atula | mmnicolas, --root-directory, right? |
| 05:14.11 | relipse | from NAT |
| 05:14.32 | atula | mmnicolas, okay it says that all is good then list the device.map |
| 05:14.52 | mmnicolas | relipse: like I said. |
| 05:15.32 | mmnicolas | atula: reboot and hope you end up in a usable grub rescue shell |
| 05:15.49 | atula | mmnicolas, so if grub rescue shell is up, what do I do in that? |
| 05:15.55 | atula | reinstall grub there? |
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| 05:16.22 | mmnicolas | boot manually, then reinstall grub. |
| 05:16.51 | atula | ah I see |
| 05:17.01 | mmnicolas | you'll have to type the four lines, you can use tab to autocomplete everything to be sure |
| 05:17.03 | atula | so what we just did is reinstall grub to allow us to get in? |
| 05:18.09 | mmnicolas | yea, next is the tricky part |
| 05:18.13 | atula | mmnicolas, GNU GRUB version 0.97 |
| 05:18.20 | atula | looks like I got grub shell |
| 05:18.52 | mmnicolas | type root(hd and press tab to show the list |
| 05:19.07 | mmnicolas | choose wisely |
| 05:19.24 | atula | when I press type… it does not thing |
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| 05:19.37 | atula | just keeps on going to newline |
| 05:20.20 | mmnicolas | you mean you can't type anything ? |
| 05:20.47 | atula | I have a setup where /boot is mounted on a raid-1 of /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 |
| 05:21.00 | atula | I have installed grub on both /dev/sda and sdb |
| 05:21.09 | atula | now I have grub shell on reboot |
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| 05:22.49 | mmnicolas | but you can't type in it |
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| 05:23.58 | atula | mmnicolas, I can type stuff in the shell but only limited number of commands |
| 05:24.30 | mmnicolas | yes "root(hd0,0)" |
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| 05:25.17 | atula | root=(hd0,0) you mean |
| 05:25.41 | mmnicolas | thats one line, "kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/mdX ro" 2nd, initrd /initrd.img, then "boot" |
| 05:25.55 | mmnicolas | Im pretty sure there is no = |
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| 05:28.02 | mmnicolas | using tab should reveal the correct syntax |
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| 05:30.41 | atula | mmnicolas, okay booting |
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| 05:33.37 | atula | mmnicolas, after I type boot, I am back at grub> again |
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| 05:37.59 | mmnicolas | try with other parameters or try the new option on the installer disc, "Reinstall GRUB boot loader" |
| 05:38.03 | mmnicolas | i never tried that |
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| 05:44.12 | jtreminio | Evening all. Does anyone know how I would write a test to check if either of two files exist? Current I have "$ /usr/bin/test -f /path/to/file", but I want to add an OR in there, "if file1 does not exist, file2 must" |
| 05:46.21 | mmnicolas | jtreminio: https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bashref.html#Lists |
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| 05:47.10 | jtreminio | mmnicolas: that's almost too simple! $ /usr/bin/test -f /path/to/file1 || /usr/bin/test -f /path/to/file2 ? |
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| 05:47.46 | mmnicolas | you know you can also call test with [ |
| 05:47.58 | jtreminio | mmnicolas: this has to run in puppet, so has to be explicit |
| 05:48.10 | mmnicolas | oh |
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| 05:54.06 | mmnicolas | actually, /usr/bin/test -f /path/to/file1 || -f /path/to/file2 |
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| 05:58.21 | atula | mmnicolas, finally, I am back. got in as root. |
| 05:58.41 | atula | mmnicolas, where I need to reinstall grub so everything is saved? |
| 05:58.56 | atula | I'm afraid that reboot will just get me back to the grub > shell |
| 05:59.15 | mmnicolas | then a simple grub-install /dev/something should be fine |
| 05:59.56 | innociv | How do I usemod my only user, when I've disabled root login (which I believe is preventing su) |
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| 06:01.49 | nkuttler | innociv: sudo? |
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| 06:01.58 | innociv | Can't believe it is in use |
| 06:02.12 | innociv | usermod: user username is currently used by process 2406 |
| 06:02.27 | innociv | I guess I should just make a junk user just to do this operation? |
| 06:02.31 | atula | mmnicolas, okay I am back to normal. |
| 06:03.14 | nkuttler | innociv: how did you disable root? probably better to just enable again |
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| 06:03.33 | innociv | Erm. In sshd config. |
| 06:03.40 | mmnicolas | atula: that was a nice experience, now you can boot pretty much everything |
| 06:03.52 | nkuttler | innociv: that wouldn't prevent su |
| 06:04.05 | innociv | Well I get auth failure. Maybe I forgot my password |
| 06:04.17 | nkuttler | sudo passwd |
| 06:04.35 | innociv | What? Won't that change my current user not root |
| 06:04.36 | innociv | ? |
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| 06:04.54 | histo | innociv: not when it's used with sudo |
| 06:04.55 | innociv | I know the password for my current user but entering that in su doesn't work. Says Authentication Failure |
| 06:05.06 | innociv | oh |
| 06:05.08 | nkuttler | innociv: yeah, you need the root pw |
| 06:05.25 | innociv | Okay that worked |
| 06:06.00 | innociv | Hm but the user is still in use. |
| 06:06.20 | innociv | Since it's still in the background when I su'd.. |
| 06:06.29 | nkuttler | innociv: right, you'd need to log in as root |
| 06:07.08 | nkuttler | innociv: what were you doing with usermod anyway? |
| 06:07.17 | innociv | Just changing user dir |
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| 06:07.58 | nkuttler | innociv: interesting... i'd probably edit /etc/passwd |
| 06:08.12 | innociv | But doesn't usermod also make some files and such? |
| 06:09.11 | nkuttler | i don't think so |
| 06:09.16 | atula | mmnicolas, well, I still I don't understand 100%. The 3 commands, root (hd0, 0) just set the root, kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/md1 sets the kernel and initrd ? |
| 06:09.37 | innociv | WELL. IT seems liek ssh is started at that user too |
| 06:09.42 | nkuttler | innociv: anyway, if you do such things you *should* have a backup account you're sure you can login with |
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| 06:10.43 | innociv | usermod would have created the dir as well |
| 06:11.41 | innociv | But ah well |
| 06:11.59 | innociv | Thanks |
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| 06:13.21 | mmnicolas | atula: yep |
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| 06:17.16 | atula | mmnicolas, okay just upgrade from grub v1 to v2 |
| 06:17.24 | atula | thank you so much for your help tonight, mmnicolas |
| 06:17.27 | atula | really appreciate it. |
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| 06:27.05 | fprophet | I installed tightvncserver, configured it and created a new user to try it out in. I installed LXDE to keep it as light as possible, but when I start it up and login over vnc I can't run terminal emulators and google chrome fails to launch. |
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| 06:27.18 | fprophet | The default terminal emulator says something about input/output error. No errors on anything else, it seems. |
| 06:27.27 | fprophet | Am I missing some awful user perms or what? Can someone help me out with this? |
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| 06:27.52 | histo | fprophet: group issues? |
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| 06:28.25 | histo | fprophet: Try with another user on the box that is already created and can use those apps.. Do they receive errors? |
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| 06:31.11 | fprophet | histo: We've tried already existing users and new users and got the same error |
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| 06:54.27 | Psy-Q | i think i did something wrong when enabling multiarch. i followed these steps: http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO but 32-bit firefox still gives me "bash: ./firefox: No such file or directory" when trying to start it |
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| 06:54.41 | Psy-Q | i don't have any other 32-bit binaries to test that with, though |
| 06:55.47 | ompaul | Psy-Q: eh if ./firefox doesn't work I suggest to you that it is not in the current directory |
| 06:57.06 | Psy-Q | ompaul: no, not really. this is the error you get when trying to start 32-bit binaries on amd64. it's not what's actually wrong |
| 06:57.50 | ompaul | then you gave insufficient information |
| 06:58.05 | Psy-Q | ompaul: i found some reports of the same problem with random 32-bit stuff, but most just point at the howto for a solution. i followed that, but i think something's still missing |
| 06:58.06 | ompaul | so you followed all the instructions, went to the directory where firefox lives |
| 06:58.17 | ompaul | and then you ./firefox |
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| 06:58.22 | ompaul | is that true or false? |
| 06:58.29 | Psy-Q | yes, also redownloaded firefox. i took this one from an rsync of my home directory from a 32-bit machine |
| 06:58.46 | Psy-Q | but neither the freshly unpacked nor the rsynced one seem to work. dito for other 32-bit stuff (steam, etc.) |
| 06:59.04 | Psy-Q | all give "no such file or directory" when run, permissions on them are fine, and they are all ELF binaries |
| 06:59.15 | Psy-Q | not scripts or anything that could have a wrong path in a hashbang |
| 06:59.36 | Psy-Q | "firefox: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.18, BuildID[sha1]=0xdfadd3237c24447949fd59d2e9444c53f8f3cd2f, stripped" |
| 06:59.57 | ompaul | wonders why that multiarch page refers to ubuntu stuff |
| 07:00.02 | ompaul | when it's supposed to be debian |
| 07:00.05 | ompaul | !multiarch |
| 07:00.06 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. See also <multi-arch installer>. |
| 07:00.33 | Psy-Q | the ubuntu example on the multiarch howto page is just to show that ubuntu's split repos work differently |
| 07:00.37 | Psy-Q | but yeah, that's confusing |
| 07:00.55 | Psy-Q | for debian you don't need those architecture qualifiers |
| 07:01.03 | ompaul | Psy-Q: Im glad to say I don't want steam but this might help |
| 07:01.05 | ompaul | !steam |
| 07:01.05 | dpkg | Steam is a proprietary content delivery and management application for PC software with Linux support. Packaged in <experimental> (non-free). For help with upstream issues, ask #steamlug on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 07:01.17 | Psy-Q | oh, it's packaged now? wow, that's nice |
| 07:01.21 | Psy-Q | maybe they wrap it in some way that works |
| 07:01.25 | ompaul | anyway work I must go |
| 07:01.28 | Psy-Q | that leaves just firefox then :) |
| 07:01.33 | Psy-Q | or i could try to switch to iceweasel |
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| 07:06.11 | koalaa | hi |
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| 07:06.48 | koalaa | I cannot access undernet from my Australian provider today, while other prividers do access it.... |
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| 07:07.19 | koalaa | traceroutes from the provider seem to stop at the US and then time out, searching for undernet servers |
| 07:07.30 | koalaa | any clues? |
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| 07:08.44 | koalaa | However I can access other irc networks, as you can see |
| 07:09.09 | Wulf | koalaa: what's the address, irc.undernet.org? |
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| 07:10.09 | Wulf | koalaa: try 94.125.182.255 |
| 07:10.10 | koalaa | Wulf for example, server tampa.fl.us.undernet.org |
| 07:10.31 | koalaa | Wulf how do I put that into my mirc? |
| 07:10.42 | Wulf | koalaa: don't know, don't care |
| 07:11.17 | jelly-home | koalaa: there's a ##mirc channel, ask there |
| 07:11.22 | koalaa | like /server 94.125.182.255 |
| 07:11.25 | koalaa | ? |
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| 07:12.25 | jelly-home | /server works on many irc clients but I have no idea about mirc |
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| 07:14.52 | koalaa | yeah that works, but it wouldn't connect: Connecting to 94.125.182.255 (6667) |
| 07:14.52 | koalaa | - |
| 07:14.52 | koalaa | * Unable to connect to server (Connection timed out) |
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| 07:15.32 | Wulf | koalaa: maybe your ISP allows only one irc connection at a time? |
| 07:15.35 | koalaa | so, while I cann connect to freenode irc, I can't connect to undernet |
| 07:15.43 | Wulf | koalaa: means, you'd first have to disconnect from freenode |
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| 07:16.11 | koalaa | no I've use two mircs to connect before |
| 07:16.18 | jelly-home | koalaa: this channel is used to provide tech support for Debian, likely a different OS than you use. For windows issues, there's ##windows; for mirc, there's ##mirc -- I suggest you ask people who actually use that stuff |
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| 07:16.54 | jelly-home | be patient, smaller channel might not have people online the whole time |
| 07:16.58 | koalaa | jelly-home yes, but it's not my computer. It's the service provider that has the problem |
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| 07:17.29 | Wulf | koalaa: is your ISP called "debian"? |
| 07:17.43 | koalaa | the bigpond isp can connect to undernet, today |
| 07:17.54 | jelly-home | koalaa: those places are still better for issues with the OS you use at present |
| 07:18.02 | koalaa | Wulf not, my isp is internode |
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| 07:18.40 | koalaa | nobody's talking in #mirc anyway |
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| 07:19.07 | elfranne | is there a way to find some logs about cronjobs ? i can t find any log file /var/log/cron* |
| 07:19.43 | histo | elfranne: depends on the job and if you set it to log it's output somewhere. |
| 07:19.45 | Wulf | elfranne: syslog or daemon.log; if a cron job failed, you might receive an email with the details |
| 07:19.46 | jelly-home | elfranne: cron logs are disabled by default -- uncomment them in /etc/rsyslog.conf and reload the rsyslog service |
| 07:19.49 | koalaa | I wonder if there is a different way to log onto undernet servers |
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| 07:19.56 | koalaa | like through the browser |
| 07:20.25 | elfranne | jelly-home: i ll do that thx ! |
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| 07:20.39 | elfranne | Wulf, i ll check that too |
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| 07:21.32 | koalaa | well, thanks for the suggestions, guys |
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| 07:42.16 | fprophet | A friend of mine asked for help with installing a vnc server on his Debian 6.0.7 amd64 vps and we're having some issues with it. |
| 07:42.22 | fprophet | I installed tightvncserver, configured it and created a new user to try it out in. I installed LXDE to keep it as light as possible, but when I start it up and login over vnc I can't run terminal emulators and google chrome fails to launch. |
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| 07:42.29 | fprophet | Am I missing some awful user perms or what? Can someone help me out with this? |
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| 07:43.43 | well_laid_lawn | what's in ~/.vncon the server - edit anything ? |
| 07:43.49 | well_laid_lawn | what's in ~/.vncn the server - edit anything ? |
| 07:43.55 | well_laid_lawn | what's in ~/.vnc the server - edit anything ? |
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| 07:44.10 | fprophet | well_laid_lawn: I'll take a look |
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| 07:44.35 | well_laid_lawn | you shouild set it to start lxde |
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| 07:46.01 | made2shred | I want to replace a fedora partition with a debian partition using grub as a bootloader (second partition is windows), can i just format the fedora partition and install debian or do i also need to tweak grub? |
| 07:46.17 | fprophet | well_laid_lawn: theres absolutely nothing there |
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| 07:46.55 | aladdinwang | hello, i can't open 8000 port on my debian.... |
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| 07:46.57 | well_laid_lawn | an mt folder or no .vnc ? |
| 07:47.09 | aladdinwang | iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 8000 -j ACCEPT |
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| 07:48.04 | themill | aladdinwang: what did you do to close it? |
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| 07:48.12 | aladdinwang | http://www.bpaste.net/show/TkpzVftyBdXu3019Gkwn/ |
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| 07:48.28 | fprophet | well_laid_lawn: .vnc exists in user folders, is empty |
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| 07:48.38 | aladdinwang | themill: I want to open 8000 port on my system... |
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| 07:48.59 | aladdinwang | But use the previous command, it seems doesn't work |
| 07:49.08 | well_laid_lawn | fprophet: are you starting the server as a user? - it should have some files in there |
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| 07:49.34 | fprophet | well_laid_lawn: yes. I start tightvncserver as the user |
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| 07:50.42 | well_laid_lawn | fprophet: gotta go this might help - http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/vnc.htm |
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| 07:51.39 | fprophet | oh, wait. Im sorry I was forgetting the period |
| 07:51.43 | best001 | ciao |
| 07:51.53 | best001 | !list |
| 07:51.54 | dpkg | best001: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 07:52.52 | fprophet | well_laid_lawn: http://pastebin.com/xEiWJVaE |
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| 08:01.33 | fprophet | I can't run Xorg -configure |
| 08:01.44 | fprophet | I get "Fatal server error: xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)" |
| 08:02.00 | Wulf | fprophet: ls -l /dev/tty0 |
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| 08:02.28 | fprophet | root@vps2:/etc/X11# ls -l /dev/tty0 crw------- 1 root root 4, 0 May 18 2011 /dev/tty0 |
| 08:02.42 | Wulf | vps... |
| 08:03.03 | Wulf | fprophet: do you even have a monitor? |
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| 08:03.21 | fprophet | I'm using vnc for that |
| 08:05.07 | Dark_light | I know it's a bad idea to mix distro repository so with that in mind has anyone tried installing cinnamon on wheezy by adding deb http://packages.linuxmint.com/ debian main upstream import romeo , how many issues could I encounter down the line ? |
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| 08:06.18 | elfranne | Dark_light, why not just install Linux Mint Debian Edition ? |
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| 08:08.09 | Dark_light | elfranne: mostly because I'd like to stick with a stable version set it up and don't touch it for the 2+ years it'll be supported |
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| 08:10.00 | elfranne | Dark_light, if you want it stable your idea to mix repo is a bad idea |
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| 08:11.11 | Dark_light | elfranne: ok, thanks for the input, it's a real shame though that there's no repo or anything for cinnamon on wheezy |
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| 08:16.02 | boudiccas | Dark_light, cinnamon is in the debain repos, experiemental i think. i did try it out on wheezy but screwed up its configuration so i t no longer loaded. |
| 08:16.17 | boudiccas | ,v cinnamon |
| 08:16.18 | judd | Package: cinnamon on i386 -- jessie: 1.7.4-2; sid: 1.7.4-2 |
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| 08:17.10 | boudiccas | Dark_light, does that answer your question? :) |
| 08:17.18 | fprophet | I'm unable to run Xorg -configure. Receiving "Fatal server error: |
| 08:17.20 | fprophet | xf86OpenConsole: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (No such file or directory)" |
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| 08:19.06 | Dark_light | boudiccas: yes and no, I'm glad it's there but it doesn't make it any easier to setup wheezy + cinnamon in the long term |
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| 09:07.36 | thuggy | bonjour |
| 09:07.40 | thuggy | quelqu'un parle français ? |
| 09:09.16 | thuggy | anyone talks french |
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| 09:09.48 | thuggy | :'( |
| 09:09.57 | jelly | !fr |
| 09:09.57 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 09:10.21 | thuggy | thanks a lot |
| 09:10.23 | thuggy | bye |
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| 09:14.44 | mekeor | so i wanna install debian using netinstall-iso (per usb-disk). but i need i driver (iwlwifi) which the iso does not contain. i have another usb-disk (say "redusb") and i put the firmware-iwlwifi.deb on it. when i boot the netinstall-iso, i am asked whether i have a usb-disk with iwlwifi-1000-N.ucode (1<=N<=5) on it. i stick "redusb" in and choose "yes". it does not recognize the driver. why not? |
| 09:15.00 | mekeor | s/i need i/i need a/ |
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| 09:17.07 | histo | !firmware |
| 09:17.07 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 09:17.28 | histo | !wifi |
| 09:17.29 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
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| 09:18.14 | mekeor | so the problem is that i need an internet connection for a net-inst for which i need iwlwifi. |
| 09:18.40 | mekeor | histo: so how do i make the driver usable for the debian-installer? |
| 09:19.07 | histo | !installer firmware |
| 09:19.08 | dpkg | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
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| 09:19.32 | ronny | hi |
| 09:19.44 | mekeor | histo: what is netboot firmware? |
| 09:19.54 | mekeor | !firmware images |
| 09:19.54 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 09:20.06 | mekeor | cool |
| 09:20.10 | mekeor | thank you |
| 09:20.16 | ronny | is there a way to get a recent glibc on debian?, i need to use some packages that provide ubuntu compiled binaries and those depend on the newer glibc |
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| 09:25.22 | jelly | ronny: set up an ubuntu or debian testing chroot, and run those apps inside it |
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| 09:26.08 | jelly | replacing glibc might have unforeseen consequences |
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| 09:26.44 | jelly | ,v libc6 |
| 09:26.45 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38; jessie: 2.17-3; sid: 2.17-3 |
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| 09:27.12 | klys | it's jessie, hooray |
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| 09:30.39 | h00ked | hi there, i have one big problem - yesterday i turn off LCD and today GUI - gnome3 crash. After reboot its same - GUI cannot be loaded without error, nothing. I tried boot in recovery mode, i made reconfigure gnome, but without changes, same i tried upgrade. Any ideas? |
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| 09:32.27 | p3rror | hello |
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| 09:32.37 | tuxcrafter | how can i get the ip6 address from an machine from the debian gateway if i only know the mac of the machine |
| 09:32.38 | klys | h00ked: what is your error |
| 09:32.48 | tuxcrafter | arp -a used to work for ipv4 |
| 09:32.55 | Benkinooby | hi, what plugin/software can I use for flash (in browsers)? |
| 09:32.58 | Benkinooby | !flash |
| 09:32.59 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> and <lightspark> for free implementations or <adobe flash> for a non-free implementation. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
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| 09:33.10 | Benkinooby | sorry, got it :) |
| 09:33.13 | h00ked | klys: error: nothing, screen just make "blink" and return login screen |
| 09:33.23 | Benkinooby | !lightspark |
| 09:33.24 | dpkg | Lightspark is an experimental, high-performance <Flash> player and browser plugin, aiming to support newer formats and the AVM2 virtual machine. The Mozilla browser plugin is packaged for Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" as browser-plugin-lightspark. http://lightspark.github.com/ |
| 09:33.45 | Benkinooby | !gnash |
| 09:33.46 | dpkg | Gnash is the GNU <Flash> movie player, developed from GPLFlash and part of the GNU project. The project aims to create a free software player and browser plugin. The browser plugins are packaged for Debian as mozilla-plugin-gnash and konqueror-plugin-gnash. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ #gnash on irc.freenode.net. |
| 09:33.59 | klys | h00ked: gdm ? change your window_manager temporarily. |
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| 09:34.39 | no_gravity | Hello! I always used twistd to quickly share a directory via http. Now it seems its not part of Debian 7 anymore. Any ideas what to do? |
| 09:35.00 | klys | h00ked: your error should be logged. |
| 09:35.20 | h00ked | klys: im looking for it |
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| 09:36.12 | klys | no_gravity: just keep your old package unless there are conflicts |
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| 09:36.53 | no_gravity | klys: i have no idea how to "keep my old package". i have debian 7 up and running and im looking for a way to share a directory via http. |
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| 09:37.51 | klys | debian.net, archive.debian.org, mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool |
| 09:38.28 | superlinux-hp | Hi. While the system boots up and just after getting into runlevel 2, the font changes with a frame buffer support. what i want is to keep the font the same since the very start. how? |
| 09:38.42 | ShishKabab | I have two files in /etc/cron.d . Both have the same permissions and contain only lowercase letters in their filenames. Yet one is executed and the other one not. No clue in /var/log/syslog why. I only see other jobs getting run there. Does anyone have an idea what could be happening and how to debug this? |
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| 09:39.32 | h00ked | klys: in syslog is something like: dbus[2411]:[system] Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.avahi' Timed out | and gnome-session[4101] Debug(+): GSMStore Emiting removed for /org/gnome/SessionManagerApp4 |
| 09:39.50 | klys | superlinux-hp: check for it in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/init.d |
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| 09:40.16 | superlinux-hp | klys, i don't know exactly what to look for |
| 09:40.46 | no_gravity | Switching to python -m SimpleHTTPServer instead of twistd then. |
| 09:40.48 | klys | something like `console-tools' |
| 09:41.00 | superlinux-hp | ok |
| 09:42.19 | klys | h00ked: look for avahi and also see if you can start gnome-session-manager with another wm |
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| 09:43.28 | klys | shishkabab: is /etc/crontab obsolete or do you still have that |
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| 09:44.49 | mekeor | klys: do you know everything? |
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| 09:45.38 | ShishKabab | klys: Is still have those, stock version from Debian containing some anacron commands. |
| 09:45.51 | klys | tuxcrafter: if you have shell access to this gateway, /sbin/ifconfig -a |
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| 09:46.13 | klys | mekeor you can help too |
| 09:46.51 | mekeor | :) |
| 09:47.03 | klys | :-] |
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| 09:50.07 | made2shred | grub won't let me boot into windows, I've checked and the windows partition is still there and intact. anyone know howto fix? |
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| 09:51.20 | mekeor | maybe re-run grub-install or so? |
| 09:51.37 | Benkinooby | made2shred: did you change anything - grub-install may help |
| 09:51.38 | klys | made2shred: root (hd0,0); chainloader +1; boot; what does it do |
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| 09:51.58 | klys | k |
| 09:52.04 | mekeor | :O |
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| 09:52.21 | ShishKabab | klys: Do you think /etc/crontab could mess something up? |
| 09:52.27 | blubberdiblub | he might also just miss os-prober |
| 09:52.36 | klys | is anacron installed? it might |
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| 09:55.02 | ShishKabab | klys: No, it isn't actually. So I could throw those lines out of the file and what happens. |
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| 09:55.17 | Benkinooby | bootjcad: maybe internet trouble? |
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| 10:03.09 | rdz | hi all. when creating new files, I get 'no space left on device', however the fs is not running out of space and also not running out of inodes, according to 'df -h' and 'df -i' |
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| 10:03.17 | rdz | what else could be causing that? |
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| 10:03.36 | klys | does `df' give you a 0 left? |
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| 10:03.55 | dym | How much packetloss is acceptable on a server -> client, client -> server connection? |
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| 10:04.47 | ido2 | clear your apt-cache? |
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| 10:05.54 | ido2 | and check your file system for errors |
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| 10:06.15 | rdz | klys, no |
| 10:06.21 | klys | more packet loss is acceptable if the connection is wireless; I'd say around 10^ |
| 10:06.45 | klys | s/^/% |
| 10:07.14 | rdz | ido2, after i've checked the fs and it corrected some errors, i'm in that situation now |
| 10:07.33 | rdz | ido2, there is no error reported now from fsck.ext4 -f <device> |
| 10:07.52 | klys | rdz, if that's the same mount you're looking at, I haven't seen space-left issues in the same vein |
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| 10:09.49 | mekeor | i downloaded http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso and then i did "sudo dd bs=4M if=/path/to/firmware-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/sdb". when i boot from the usb-disk, i just get a blinking cursor... why? :/ |
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| 10:10.04 | ido2 | klys: did you set quotas? |
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| 10:10.40 | gnarface | mekeor: how long did you wait? |
| 10:10.53 | klys | I was referring to him, I haven't done quotas |
| 10:11.21 | mekeor | gnarface: 40sec.... :D |
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| 10:11.43 | mekeor | gnarface: but the "normal" debian netinst-image takes like 10secs to set up the GUI |
| 10:11.50 | gnarface | mekeor: got a traffic light on the usb stick? |
| 10:12.02 | rdz | klys, even if i delete a some file, i cannot write new ones afterwards |
| 10:12.09 | mekeor | gnarface: i have. but i didn't check :( |
| 10:12.12 | alfadir | hi get "setlocale: LC_TIME: cannot change locale (sv_SE)" when LC_TIME=sv_SE date "+%x". ideas pointers ? locale is built with dpkg-reconfigre locales. pointers ? ideas ? |
| 10:12.22 | alfadir | locale is built.. |
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| 10:12.27 | mekeor | gnarface: i should try again, huh? |
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| 10:12.48 | gnarface | mekeor: it'd be the first thing i'd check |
| 10:12.53 | klys | rdz: my only other guesses are large files in /tmp or fstype=udf |
| 10:13.00 | ido2 | klys: did you clear your /tmp ? |
| 10:13.07 | mekeor | gnarface: yeah, true. i'm gonna reboot; see you :) |
| 10:13.18 | klys | ido2: adain, I was referring to him, I haven't done quotas |
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| 10:13.30 | klys | s/adain/again/ |
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| 10:13.59 | rdz | klys, thanks.. that is not the case either, unfortunately |
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| 10:14.26 | ido2 | oops, wrong user :) |
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| 10:14.36 | klys | :] |
| 10:15.38 | klys | was the wrong luser ;) |
| 10:16.00 | hyppias | rsyslogd with MySQL: I understand that a $template is used to form a mysql statement to insert a record containing a message. But how does RSYSLOG know how to crack a string from the system into the relevant record fields? I mean: some part of the string may nbe an IP address, or another may be a date of something... |
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| 10:17.26 | klys | hyppias: have you asked in #mysql ? |
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| 10:18.04 | hyppias | klys: does not seem to be a mysql question... it's rsyslog that does the work... |
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| 10:18.49 | mekeor | gnarface: the led of the usb-disk did not blink (as it's the case when it's actively used). |
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| 10:19.47 | mekeor | i waited for more than 2 minutes... |
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| 10:23.23 | mekeor | i hope http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso is the correct image? :/ |
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| 10:26.32 | klys | mekeor, make sure your cpu is an amd not intel, and that sounds right |
| 10:27.08 | klys | also make sure your dhcp server is online |
| 10:27.19 | mekeor | mekeor: you might want to take a look at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en |
| 10:27.31 | mekeor | klys: it's an intel |
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| 10:27.54 | klys | look for arch=ia64 then |
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| 10:29.00 | wrksx | I'm facing an error using Rsync: "rsync: failed to set times on "/foo/.": Operation not permitted (1)" |
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| 10:29.34 | abeluck | how can i securely checkout the source for a debian package? |
| 10:29.37 | DotHack | wrksx: is foo src or dst? |
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| 10:29.53 | abeluck | there seems to be no option to check out the source via TLS |
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| 10:30.12 | wrksx | DotHack: thanks for reactivity ! it is the destination. |
| 10:30.14 | klys | abeluck apt-get source <package> |
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| 10:30.42 | abeluck | klys: I need to do this in a cross-distro manner :\ |
| 10:30.55 | wrksx | DotHack: I thought maybe only the owner user can set times on dir but I have no clue... |
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| 10:31.24 | DotHack | wrksx: thats possible.. are you root? |
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| 10:32.14 | wrksx | fact is both src and destination are owned by root, and by group "staff". I'm trying to Rsinc using a member of the "staff" group |
| 10:32.49 | klys | abeluck: then download the .orig.tar.gz and .diff.gz from mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/*/ and run dpkg-buildpackage or chmod +x debian/rules; debian/rules build |
| 10:32.52 | wrksx | DotHack: I mean I get root access I just want to allow multiple use'rs to Rsync |
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| 10:33.12 | DotHack | possible restricted bij the parent dir of foo |
| 10:33.30 | wrksx | wow good lead thanks |
| 10:33.42 | wrksx | DotHack: i try it now |
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| 10:35.32 | abeluck | klys: hm i guess downloading the signed package is about the only thing i can do? |
| 10:35.47 | abeluck | klys: i'm not actually intersted in building the package, i'm trying to fetch the source for the ca-certificates package |
| 10:35.53 | abeluck | to create a trusted cert bundle |
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| 10:38.08 | wrksx | DotHack: not workin :-/ |
| 10:38.43 | klys | abeluck: the .diff.gz is a debian-supplied patch that contains the official makefile, etc. if you want to run the binaries, etc. you just have to make sure your libs are the right versions in your target installs. |
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| 10:39.33 | DotHack | wrksx: can you paste the rights of the parent folder of foo? |
| 10:39.44 | wrksx | sure |
| 10:40.22 | wrksx | DotHack: drwxrwxr-x 4 root staff 4096 |
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| 10:40.52 | DotHack | wrksx: is this same fs? or mounted? |
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| 10:41.24 | wrksx | DotHack: drwxrwxr-x 5 root staff 4096 29 mai destination DotHack: drwxrwxr-x 10 root staff 4096 31 mai source |
| 10:41.44 | wrksx | DotHack: both are same FS, and same parent dir |
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| 10:42.16 | abeluck | klys: you don't seem to understand, the goal is to acquire the file in a trusted manner |
| 10:42.18 | abeluck | :) |
| 10:42.27 | abeluck | either through TLS or by verifying a signature |
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| 10:43.16 | DotHack | wrksx: did some googling for you and the user doing the rsync actually needs to be owner of the dir |
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| 10:43.26 | klys | all I know is apt-get sometimes gets requests from the mirror for a GPG key but you should already know that |
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| 10:44.18 | wrksx | DotHack: does that mean that it is impossible to allow multiple users to Rsync the same dir, since there can only be one owner ? |
| 10:44.37 | DotHack | wrksx: yes |
| 10:45.08 | DotHack | wrksx: it is possible with using the -O switch that causes rsync not to set mod times on files |
| 10:46.18 | wrksx | Darkchaos: i did read about that swith, but I don't fully understand it. Does that mean the dest folder will always keep the same modification time ? |
| 10:46.31 | wrksx | Darkchaos: sorry wrong user =) |
| 10:46.42 | wrksx | DotHack: i did read about that swith, but I don't fully understand it. Does that mean the dest folder will always keep the same modification time ? |
| 10:46.53 | DotHack | wrksx: yep |
| 10:47.00 | wrksx | swith/switch |
| 10:47.28 | wrksx | DotHack: ok. Thank you very much for your help ! |
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| 10:47.50 | DotHack | wrksx: np |
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| 11:04.11 | pippijn | hi |
| 11:04.15 | pippijn | I have a problem |
| 11:04.21 | pippijn | my libc is broken |
| 11:04.28 | pippijn | on a server |
| 11:04.41 | pippijn | sudo: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1) |
| 11:04.54 | pippijn | libc6 is version 2.13 |
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| 11:05.28 | wrksx | is there any straigthforward way to execute a script on a server FROM a windows OS ? |
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| 11:05.32 | pippijn | [1] 24059 segmentation fault 'su' |
| 11:05.50 | DotHack | wrksx: ssh? |
| 11:05.55 | wrksx | it is a deploy script |
| 11:06.01 | pippijn | I can't ssh into the server, anymore |
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| 11:06.07 | pippijn | I have one open connection that works |
| 11:06.09 | wrksx | DotHack: ssh ? is it available on windows ? |
| 11:06.26 | DotHack | wrksx: putty |
| 11:06.51 | DotHack | wrksx: has a tool called plink |
| 11:07.45 | wrksx | DotHack: I'll investigate on that thx. according to you would it be possible to write a windows script that when executed will connect to ssh and execute the desired command ? |
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| 11:07.57 | wrksx | Using putty/plink ? |
| 11:08.00 | DotHack | wrksx: yep |
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| 11:08.43 | wrksx | DotHack: thanks ! |
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| 11:12.40 | pippijn | /sbin/getty: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /sbin/getty) |
| 11:12.44 | pippijn | no remote login |
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| 11:13.25 | DotHack | pippijn: copy a libc.so.6 to the box with rescue media |
| 11:13.41 | pippijn | DotHack: it's remote |
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| 11:13.57 | DotHack | pippijn: then your out of luck |
| 11:14.06 | pippijn | I have no chance? |
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| 11:14.45 | DotHack | pippijn: libc is required by all binaries.. so everything your try to start will compain about missing libc |
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| 11:14.57 | pippijn | DotHack: it's not missing, it's old |
| 11:15.07 | pippijn | cat, base64, cpio, all work |
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| 11:15.28 | pippijn | rm also works |
| 11:15.37 | DotHack | pippijn: what did you do |
| 11:15.45 | pippijn | I tried to upgrade, but something failed |
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| 11:15.59 | pippijn | mysql segfaulted during the libc upgrade |
| 11:16.07 | pippijn | then libc was not installed properly |
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| 11:16.14 | pippijn | and now I have the old one |
| 11:16.18 | pippijn | but the system requires the new one |
| 11:16.19 | DotHack | pippijn: and reinstalling libc? |
| 11:16.26 | pippijn | nothing works |
| 11:16.31 | pippijn | I can't become root |
| 11:16.39 | pippijn | I have no root shell |
| 11:16.41 | DotHack | sudo? |
| 11:16.44 | pippijn | sudo needs the new libc |
| 11:16.55 | pippijn | su segfaults |
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| 11:17.23 | DotHack | pippijn: upgrading to wheezy? |
| 11:17.26 | pippijn | yes |
| 11:17.30 | pippijn | no |
| 11:17.33 | pippijn | testing |
| 11:17.42 | pippijn | yes, stupid |
| 11:17.53 | DotHack | pippijn: i think your out of options here |
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| 11:18.24 | DotHack | is scp working? |
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| 11:18.36 | pippijn | no, and ssh is not working, either |
| 11:18.43 | pippijn | I'm on an ssh connection now |
| 11:18.51 | pippijn | but once it breaks, I'm locked out |
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| 11:19.11 | DotHack | pippijn: you need some way to transfer a new libc from remote to your box... |
| 11:19.26 | DotHack | pippijn: netcat? |
| 11:19.29 | DotHack | pippijn: wget? |
| 11:19.34 | pippijn | netcat works |
| 11:19.40 | pippijn | wget doesn't |
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| 11:20.14 | DotHack | pippijn: setup netcat server on your broken box and tar pipe a newer libc to it |
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| 11:20.31 | pippijn | DotHack: then how can I use it? |
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| 11:20.36 | pippijn | because I'm not root |
| 11:20.45 | DotHack | pippijn: arghh.. i forgot that |
| 11:21.13 | DotHack | pippijn: maybe by using some LD_blabla var wait ill look into it |
| 11:21.30 | pippijn | hmm |
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| 11:22.54 | DotHack | pippijn: maybe using LD_LIBRARY_PATH = /location of new libc;$LD_LIBRARY_PATH can help to have su look in the dir for the new libc |
| 11:23.06 | DotHack | s/;/:/ |
| 11:24.36 | DotHack | pippijn: but you problably need more newer libs... |
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| 11:27.31 | pippijn | DotHack: it's not working |
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| 11:27.47 | pippijn | I copied libc.so.6 to my home |
| 11:27.59 | pippijn | it still tries to get the one from /lib/x86... |
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| 11:28.11 | DotHack | pippijn: can you pate what you do |
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| 11:28.14 | DotHack | paste |
| 11:28.22 | pippijn | pippijn@ra ~ $ cksum libc.so |
| 11:28.22 | pippijn | 1597458017 1741232 libc.so |
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| 11:28.27 | pippijn | pippijn@osiris ~ $ cksum /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.17.so |
| 11:28.27 | pippijn | 1597458017 1741232 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.17.so |
| 11:28.39 | pippijn | pippijn@ra Desktop $ cat ../libc.so > ../libc.so.6 |
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| 11:29.18 | pippijn | after that, some tools open that local libc with dlopen, but actually are still linked to the one in /lib |
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| 11:30.13 | DotHack | pippijn: ? but you did use LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
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| 11:30.16 | pippijn | yes |
| 11:30.25 | pippijn | pippijn@ra ~ $ LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. sudo |
| 11:30.25 | pippijn | sudo: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1) |
| 11:30.58 | DotHack | pippijn: maybe LD_PRELOAD? |
| 11:31.36 | pippijn | pippijn@ra ~ $ LD_PRELOAD=$PWD/libc.so.6 'sudo' |
| 11:31.36 | pippijn | sudo: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1) |
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| 11:34.32 | DotHack | pippijn: can you do a ldd /sbin/su |
| 11:34.52 | DotHack | pippijn: /bin/su |
| 11:35.17 | pippijn | ldd doesn't work |
| 11:35.25 | pippijn | but |
| 11:35.35 | pippijn | ldd is nothing but LD_something $process, right? |
| 11:35.56 | DotHack | ldd show what libraries are required by a binary |
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| 11:36.01 | pippijn | ldd is a shell script |
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| 11:36.58 | moof2 | hmm... sure is |
| 11:37.41 | DotHack | is runs /lib/ld-linux.so.2 |
| 11:38.20 | pippijn | it runs the program |
| 11:40.06 | DotHack | pippijn: 32 or 64 bit system? |
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| 11:40.31 | pippijn | oh yeah |
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| 11:41.00 | pippijn | DotHack: https://paste.xinu.at/zuLAUX/ |
| 11:41.21 | pippijn | https://paste.xinu.at/hzEUYd/ |
| 11:41.43 | DotHack | pippijn: site is very slow... |
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| 11:42.10 | DotHack | pippijn: doesnt load.... |
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| 11:43.36 | aswen | hi there, i run deb7 with i3wm and want to know which program is started by gnome that mounts usb disks in /media as soon as you plug them in, anyone knows? |
| 11:43.43 | DotHack | mm paste.debian.net doesnt load either |
| 11:44.03 | pippijn | http://ideone.com/UBFsej |
| 11:44.33 | moof2 | aswen. it's one of those automounter things |
| 11:45.08 | pippijn | DotHack: I copied all those files to the system (except linux-vdso) and su still segfaults |
| 11:46.04 | DotHack | pippijn: mmm |
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| 11:46.29 | DotHack | pippijn: you have to preload al those libs then so that ldd output is like the libc one |
| 11:47.02 | pippijn | http://ideone.com/L8ffF0 |
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| 11:47.19 | pippijn | just LD_LIBRARY_PATH is enough |
| 11:47.42 | DotHack | pippijn: ok still seg? whats the output |
| 11:47.52 | pippijn | of su? |
| 11:47.55 | DotHack | pippijn: your are uploading 64x libs? |
| 11:47.58 | DotHack | pippijn: yes |
| 11:48.02 | pippijn | [1] 25758 segmentation fault /bin/su |
| 11:48.04 | pippijn | yes |
| 11:48.10 | pippijn | all my systems are 64 bit |
| 11:48.54 | aswen | moof2, well, automounter is running (for some network stuf) and if i run gnome my usb drives are mounted and when i run i3 they don't so i think gnome start some other daemon-ish thing that mounts usb devices |
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| 11:49.05 | DotHack | pippijn: i think it is badly broken... |
| 11:49.25 | DotHack | pippijn: and sudo? |
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| 11:49.47 | pippijn | hmm |
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| 11:50.06 | pippijn | DotHack: I'll try that, it needs some more libs |
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| 11:51.30 | pippijn | it's odd |
| 11:51.54 | pippijn | http://ideone.com/LDeyiP |
| 11:52.18 | moof2 | aswen, maybe gnome starts the automounter |
| 11:52.49 | moof2 | and maybe i3 (btw, what's that?) does not |
| 11:52.52 | DotHack | pippijn: probably some hardcoded paths in there |
| 11:52.54 | aswen | moof2, automounter is started by init |
| 11:52.58 | pippijn | probably, yes |
| 11:53.14 | moof2 | that would mean it's in the inittab |
| 11:53.19 | moof2 | right? |
| 11:53.24 | aswen | and runs (and works for nfs and samba drives when i run i3) |
| 11:53.39 | DotHack | maybe build a statically linked sudo.. |
| 11:53.43 | pippijn | DotHack: suid |
| 11:54.23 | pippijn | is a problem |
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| 11:54.59 | DotHack | pippijn: read: http://jurjenbokma.com/ApprenticesNotes/getting_statlinked_binaries_on_debian.html |
| 11:55.17 | DotHack | pippijn: maybe this way you can build a static su/sudo and upload it |
| 11:55.19 | PseudoMetaAlgo | A quick question from someone trying to jump distros. I'd like to run debian stable, but I'd require access to bleeding edge compilers, since bug reports for old versions are rarely well received. Is there a way to cherrypick a couple of packages that are bleeding edge without botching up an install? Or should I just use debian unstable? Though that kind of defeat the purpose since I'm coming from arch. |
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| 11:56.12 | pippijn | DotHack: yes, but I can't make it suid |
| 11:56.18 | pippijn | without suid, it can't become root |
| 11:56.38 | DotHack | pippijn: hmmmmmmmm |
| 11:57.19 | DotHack | pippijn: whats next? |
| 11:57.28 | pippijn | local root exploit |
| 11:57.56 | DotHack | pippijn: yeah that already crossed my mind but i have no clue how |
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| 11:58.13 | pippijn | it's an old kernel |
| 11:58.15 | pippijn | 2.6.32 |
| 11:58.19 | pippijn | http://1337day.com/exploit/14601 |
| 11:59.00 | DotHack | pippijn: worth a try |
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| 11:59.57 | ratrace | Hi. Anyone running Sensors gnome shell extension on 64-bit wheezy? the comments mention it's broken and may even render the system in unusable state, couldn't find more info what they meant by that. |
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| 12:00.09 | phix | Updating from Squeeze to Wheezy was a pain |
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| 12:01.19 | jhutchins_wk | PseudoMetaAlgo: Unstable isn't meant as a release, it's a staging area for proposed packages for testing. |
| 12:01.51 | jhutchins_wk | PseudoMetaAlgo: You could probably run backports, or build your own packages from upstream. |
| 12:02.05 | pippijn | DotHack: I don't see how that is supposed to work, though |
| 12:02.30 | pippijn | DotHack: I think it's rubbish |
| 12:02.34 | DotHack | pippijn: arent you able to boot from some media? |
| 12:02.40 | pippijn | it does some things with symbol tables |
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| 12:02.43 | pippijn | nothing exploity |
| 12:02.44 | eptalon | heyas |
| 12:03.27 | eptalon | Suppose I want to burn an mp3 file to cd, using debian (k3b?), is there an easy way to get a track marker every 5 minutes or so? |
| 12:03.48 | pippijn | DotHack: I can start a rescue kernel, but.. |
| 12:03.54 | pippijn | without libc, that will probably fail |
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| 12:04.33 | DotHack | pippijn: dunno maybe the rescue initrd contains some tools... |
| 12:04.40 | madarab1 | fuck you crooked nigger dick suckin debian trash...you sorry censoring sons of bitches |
| 12:04.47 | DotHack | pippijn: then again, maybe not |
| 12:04.57 | pippijn | if not, all chances are gone |
| 12:05.17 | eptalon | madarab1: insulting serves little |
| 12:05.36 | madarab1 | eptalon...well..if the shoe fits...eat it |
| 12:06.05 | madarab1 | fuck you debian trash |
| 12:06.11 | PseudoMetaAlgo | jhutchins_wk: thanks |
| 12:06.16 | eptalon | madarab1: there are different linux distros for a reason. |
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| 12:06.45 | D|nA | my psychic ability sense that someone was unable to setup debian... |
| 12:06.57 | D|nA | madarab1 ??? |
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| 12:07.32 | eptalon | D|nA: It broke my system, and I lost all data, and now I need to sleep under a bridge? |
| 12:07.36 | DotHack | pippijn: i really think youre out of luck... better use what you still can to retrieve important data/config files |
| 12:07.38 | madarab1 | D|nA...fuck you trash...who needs a cd that says you don't have a binary file to set up networks |
| 12:08.05 | pippijn | tar works |
| 12:08.10 | pippijn | but sudo doesn't |
| 12:08.18 | pippijn | my user doesn't have access to all important files |
| 12:08.40 | jhutchins_wk | pippijn: sudo is not the default mechanism on Debian. |
| 12:08.45 | DotHack | pippijn: thats not fijn :( |
| 12:08.48 | pippijn | su doesn't work, either |
| 12:08.49 | madarab1 | D|nA..and who the fuckin hell does debian think they are claiming the binary file is non-free...when the code has been released for the kernel and all propietary rights have been relinquised as a result |
| 12:08.54 | pippijn | su segfaults |
| 12:09.00 | pippijn | hm |
| 12:09.16 | jhutchins_wk | pippijn: In that case you have problems. You could try booting to live media and investigating from there. |
| 12:09.22 | D|nA | raging hard today madarab1 ? |
| 12:09.26 | pippijn | jhutchins_wk: it's a server |
| 12:09.26 | jhutchins_wk | pippijn: 2.6.32 is NOT an old kernel. |
| 12:09.36 | pippijn | ah :\ |
| 12:09.44 | madarab1 | all propietary rights have been forfeited when the code was released for the kernel |
| 12:09.47 | pippijn | well, it's at least a year old |
| 12:09.52 | pippijn | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:09.56 | jhutchins_wk | pippijn: The kernel devs have gone a bit crazy with version numbers lately. |
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| 12:10.13 | bezaban | madarab1: who do you think you are that gets to dictate what choices other people make? You should resolve this with yourself, it will be very counter productive if you ever need to cooperate with someone. |
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| 12:10.24 | pippijn | jhutchins_wk: semtex.c works on 2.6.37 |
| 12:10.28 | madarab1 | fuck you debian trash...who needs your goddamn shit anyway? |
| 12:10.29 | pippijn | and centos' .32 |
| 12:10.38 | madarab1 | can't even install it anyway |
| 12:10.44 | anddam | and /ignore did his job again |
| 12:10.49 | D|nA | dies laughing |
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| 12:11.38 | jhutchins_wk | pippijn: You should be able to boot to single user mode, that should give you root access. |
| 12:11.46 | D|nA | madarab1, you can go with the ancient african word meaning 'can't install debian correctly' |
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| 12:11.55 | D|nA | or another distro, and stop whining |
| 12:11.55 | DotHack | jhutchins_wk: his libc is broken... is it safe? |
| 12:12.03 | rudi_s | D|nA: :D |
| 12:12.04 | madarab1 | bezeban...not a dictator...just to see that noone ever gets propietary rights to the means of production |
| 12:12.06 | jhutchins_wk | pippijn: Although it's hard to guess what's causing your segfault errors. I'd check the filesystem. |
| 12:12.14 | jhutchins_wk | D|nA: Don't feed the trolls. |
| 12:12.17 | pippijn | jhutchins_wk: libc is broken |
| 12:12.22 | bezaban | waves another trollsnack. |
| 12:12.26 | pippijn | jhutchins_wk: libc in the system is 2.13 |
| 12:12.29 | madarab1 | fuck all them sons of bitches that try to get propietary rights to the means of production |
| 12:12.30 | pippijn | jhutchins_wk: but everything needs 2.17 |
| 12:12.31 | D|nA | but that one is hungry |
| 12:12.36 | pippijn | libc upgrade went wrong |
| 12:12.37 | D|nA | but anyway, guess you're right |
| 12:12.41 | jhutchins_wk | !ops madarab1 needs attention. |
| 12:12.41 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jhutchins_wk complains about: madarab1 needs attention. |
| 12:12.44 | ratrace | realtek firmare issues? |
| 12:13.01 | madarab1 | fuck you dpkg |
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| 12:13.11 | D|nA | ty |
| 12:13.15 | babilen | np |
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| 12:13.38 | ratrace | did he have issues with the realtek firmware? |
| 12:13.52 | DotHack | who cares |
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| 12:13.58 | bezaban | serious ones it seems |
| 12:14.34 | ratrace | well I just installed Wheezy, it also complained, but network worked fine. I then added non-free and contrib and installed the firmware just fine. |
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| 12:15.20 | eptalon | ratrace: I am a satisfied user of sid/experimental. |
| 12:15.35 | anddam | while installing mysql-server I got "Unable to set password for the MySQL "root" user. An error occurred while setting the password for the MySQL administrative user. This may have happened because the account already has a password," |
| 12:15.38 | eptalon | package breakage is rare |
| 12:16.06 | anddam | is the "account" that is referred there the mysql system account or is it a mysqld internal account? |
| 12:16.34 | ratrace | eptalon: I'll probably go that route once I'm familiar enough with Debian |
| 12:16.35 | anddam | notice that I used RUNLEVEL=1 while installing to prevent the service to start |
| 12:16.50 | eptalon | ratrace: requires reading skills though. |
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| 12:16.57 | ratrace | eptalon: as always ;) |
| 12:16.58 | anddam | so I'm not asking for help about the error per se, I'd just like to understand what account is the error referring to |
| 12:17.22 | eptalon | anddam: likely the mysql-internal user. |
| 12:17.22 | DotHack | anddam: its to root user to connect to mysql |
| 12:17.37 | DotHack | anddam: to = the |
| 12:18.38 | anddam | mm, before installing mysql-server I purged all mysql packages and deleted /var/lib/mysql |
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| 12:18.48 | abrotman | i just got here! |
| 12:18.50 | anddam | that's to say the configuration should have been clean |
| 12:18.51 | anddam | ~> sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5 |
| 12:18.56 | anddam | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:19.26 | anddam | I have some mysql issue and I'd like to solve it, I'd like to start clean and I don't have any db to save |
| 12:19.35 | zacts | a "how to" install debian 7.0 into zfs root? |
| 12:20.02 | abrotman | using linux or kfreebsd kernel? |
| 12:20.05 | anddam | the only constraint is that I'm ona 128MB host so installing mysql-server-5.5 with default config fails at configuration since the service cannot start (InnoDB is a memory hog) |
| 12:20.31 | zacts | abrotman: linux kernel |
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| 12:21.29 | DotHack | anddam: you have also purged /etc/mysql ? |
| 12:23.43 | anddam | DotHack: I left my my.cnf, an edited version of the example my-small.cnf provided with mysql-server |
| 12:23.49 | anddam | mysql-server-5.5* |
| 12:24.12 | anddam | DotHack: my goal was to have a configuration without InnoDB so dpkg could configure the package |
| 12:24.29 | DotHack | anddam: maybe move it away and purge that dir |
| 12:24.34 | zacts | abrotman: is it possible? |
| 12:24.51 | anddam | DotHack: my issue is that with default config innodb alone tries to allocate 128MB |
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| 12:25.38 | DotHack | anddam: so? it doesnt start is this preventing dpkg from installing the package? |
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| 12:25.56 | anddam | DotHack: I think, but I'm not sure |
| 12:26.06 | anddam | DotHack: let me try to start from a clean situation |
| 12:26.23 | anddam | sudo aptitude purge mysql-server-5.5 mysql-client-5.5 mysql-common mysql-server-core-5.5 |
| 12:27.03 | anddam | this is the output of dpkg -l '*mysql*' |
| 12:27.06 | anddam | https://gist.github.com/anddam/5684663 |
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| 12:27.39 | Deele | hey |
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| 12:28.03 | anddam | DotHack: is that reasonable? |
| 12:28.39 | Deele | I just moved my box from one place to another (switched off brute force), and now, turned on - it shows just "grub>" entry point and I don't know what to do now, it booted successfully previously |
| 12:28.57 | DotHack | anddam: sure |
| 12:29.18 | DotHack | Deele: ¨switched off brute force¨ |
| 12:29.24 | jhutchins_wk | Deele: You need a rescue disk, or you could try to figure out grub's rescue mode. Documented on the web. |
| 12:29.28 | jhutchins_wk | !rescue |
| 12:29.28 | dpkg | from memory, rescue is at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ ("Can I use d-i as a rescue system?"). Ask me about <rescue mode>. See also <fixmbr> and <i forgot root's password>. |
| 12:29.40 | anddam | I see a mysql user and group, should I remove those to start from scratch? |
| 12:30.10 | jhutchins_wk | Deele: The disk that has /boot is too corrupt for grub to read. |
| 12:30.10 | DotHack | anddam: i doubt they will be problematic. but you can remove them off course |
| 12:30.22 | anddam | done |
| 12:30.33 | Deele | DotHack, is there any problem with debian being switched off at any moment? I have used only M$ servers before... |
| 12:30.34 | Nurbs | Deele: Any BIOS changes? |
| 12:30.43 | Deele | Nurbs, no, nothing at all, just moved |
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| 12:30.53 | anddam | DotHack: gist updated, should be clean now |
| 12:31.16 | abrotman | zacts: 'm not sure if grub supports zfs, should be easy to check though |
| 12:31.36 | neon__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:31.56 | Deele | jhutchins_wk, sounds awful, what is rescure disk? I have bootable USB-HDD, that has debian inside, it could help? |
| 12:32.01 | anddam | DotHack: now I'm going to install mysql-server-5.5, can I specify RUNLEVEL=1 in order to not start the service or shold I go clean and see at what error it actually breaks? |
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| 12:35.29 | Deele | !rescue fixmbr |
| 12:35.55 | neon__ | is there a "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing-updates main"? |
| 12:36.03 | aswen | has anyone got any bright idea why colord-sane is running @100% on one cpu all the time? (on my deb7 laptop) |
| 12:36.17 | abrotman | dpkg: tell zacts about zfs |
| 12:36.24 | pippijn | DotHack: I tried several exploits, none work |
| 12:36.30 | abrotman | neon__: you can look yourself (don't use ftp.debian.org, use a real mirror) |
| 12:36.42 | DotHack | anddam: i do not knwo the RUNLEVEL switch |
| 12:36.50 | DotHack | pippijn: to bad |
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| 12:38.44 | neon__ | abrotman, I don't see it there, but I am not sure if I know how to look for it. Should there be a file called testing-update, or jessie-update? |
| 12:39.18 | abrotman | neon__: look and see .. it's not hard |
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| 12:39.28 | abrotman | and don't use ftp.debian.org |
| 12:39.41 | anddam | DotHack: not a switch, you set a RUNLEVEL for the apt environment so the init.d script isn't (usually) executed since it probably is set to be run only in 2-5 |
| 12:39.45 | Deele | !fixmbr |
| 12:39.45 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 12:39.52 | anddam | DotHack: anyway let's go vanilla |
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| 12:41.30 | jhutchins_wk | Deele: I don't think the problem is with your mbr, or you wouldn't be getting the grub prompt. Your problem is with the filesystem that should have /boot on it. |
| 12:41.52 | Deele | jhutchins_wk, can you give me more clues? |
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| 12:43.26 | jhutchins_wk | Deele: ext3/4 are very good at tolerating power loss, but there's still a chance that the filesystem will be corrupted if you power off without shutting down. |
| 12:44.12 | jhutchins_wk | Deele: You could try booting to rescue mode, and there are utilities you can run from the grub command line but I'm not familiar with them. (I just knwo they exist.) |
| 12:45.08 | jhutchins_wk | Deele: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Commands.html |
| 12:45.10 | Deele | jhutchins_wk, I'm looking right now at "GNU GRUB version 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1" with "Minimal BASH-like editing is supported" screen |
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| 12:46.17 | jhutchins_wk | Deele: More specificly: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell.html#GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell |
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| 12:48.01 | DotHack | Deele: especially when using disks with large buffers... |
| 12:48.45 | anddam | DotHack: http://d.pr/i/Y7T3+ and https://gist.github.com/anddam/5673076 |
| 12:48.55 | anddam | aptitude output https://gist.github.com/anddam/5684663 |
| 12:50.31 | DotHack | anddam: ok now configure my.cnf not to start innodb and do a dpkg --configure --pending |
| 12:50.42 | Deele | DotHack, I have 4TB in raid with 2TB capacity in the the end |
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| 12:54.58 | Deele | jhutchins_wk, how to determine which is which drive, I have like (vg1-vol_drive) (vg1-vol_swap) (md/0) (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,msdos1) (hd2) (hd2,msdos1) (hd3) (hd3,msdos1) |
| 12:55.07 | anddam | DotHack: edited my.cnf and again I have the "unable to set password" error |
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| 12:55.56 | anddam | DotHack: mm maybe it's due to skip-bdb option I put in my.cnf |
| 12:56.05 | anddam | 130531 5:54:11 [ERROR] /usr/sbin/mysqld: unknown option '--skip-bdb' |
| 12:56.27 | anddam | the reference I found was 5.0, maybe it was just dropped later since it was already old back then |
| 12:56.56 | jelly | anddam: like the error suggests, that option does not even exist any more |
| 12:57.00 | wrksx | what would be the correct way to change the connection charset from command line ssh ? |
| 12:57.14 | wrksx | I mean only for the current session |
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| 12:57.46 | wrksx | is something like export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 expected to stick longer than the user session ? |
| 12:57.48 | anddam | https://gist.github.com/anddam/5684800 |
| 12:58.07 | anddam | jelly: that's what I meant |
| 12:58.49 | mquin | wrksx: No. exporting it will cause it to be inherited by subprocesses, but it won't last longer than the shell you've run it from |
| 12:58.56 | anddam | now mysql-server-5.5 isn't pending anymore |
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| 12:59.11 | anddam | I'm curious about that "not closed cleanly" |
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| 13:00.39 | DotHack | anddam: normal message just indicating that it is going to check tables that are not in OK state |
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| 13:01.45 | DotHack | anddam: the problem is that dpkg set the password within mysql so it needs mysql to run... and since it didnt run before i couldnt set the password |
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| 13:02.34 | DotHack | pippijn: i really think youre out of luck on this one... |
| 13:03.04 | pippijn | DotHack: ok |
| 13:03.07 | pippijn | brb |
| 13:03.14 | pippijn | booting recovery system, hoping that works |
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| 13:03.58 | DotHack | pippijn: its still going to be a pain int the ** because you really dont know what exactly is broken... |
| 13:04.15 | pippijn | DotHack: I know exactly what is broken |
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| 13:04.43 | DotHack | pippijn: ok that should help then |
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| 13:07.21 | wrksx | how can I know wich LC_CTYPE is available on my system ? |
| 13:07.28 | wrksx | wich / which |
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| 13:07.38 | anddam | DotHack: I just reset the password by hand |
| 13:08.23 | anddam | I'm just worried about this output when I ran --skip-grant-tables https://gist.github.com/anddam/5684865 |
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| 13:11.37 | patsToms | morning. created new user with useradd, made home folder and did chown to new user. But in terminal autocomplete is not working. I tried to copy bachrc but that did't help :( |
| 13:11.39 | patsToms | any ideas? |
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| 13:14.01 | DotHack | patsToms: what shell is to user using? |
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| 13:14.17 | patsToms | DotHack, terminal |
| 13:14.20 | patsToms | DotHack, via ssh |
| 13:14.44 | DotHack | patsToms: cat /etc/passwd, last field defines the shell. its probably /bin/sh |
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| 13:15.08 | patsToms | yes |
| 13:15.10 | patsToms | it is |
| 13:15.21 | DotHack | patsToms: set it to /bin/bash |
| 13:15.51 | DotHack | anddam: dunno probably table it missing.. |
| 13:16.04 | patsToms | omg, thanks :) |
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| 13:17.24 | wrksx | how can I enable a new locale ? i found /etc/locale.gen and lots are commented ? |
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| 13:17.38 | DotHack | wrksx: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 13:17.55 | wrksx | DotHack: wow thx =) |
| 13:18.11 | DotHack | wrksx: third time today haha :) |
| 13:18.24 | wrksx | yeah you're the man |
| 13:18.25 | wrksx | =) |
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| 13:26.18 | wrksx | DotHack: I got an issue my Linux box output utf8 througth ssh, but windows shell can't understand that. I tried to export LC_CTYPE="fr_FR.ISO-8859-15@euro" but then svn command fails... I suppose LC_CTYPE is not the good var to edit ? |
| 13:26.33 | wrksx | DotHack: sorry didn't meant to ping you specifically :-/ |
| 13:26.41 | hyppias | what does it mean: "Apache uses local7 to log errormessages" ? |
| 13:27.13 | DotHack | wrksx: dunno really.. |
| 13:29.43 | jhutchins_wk | hyppias: I think man rsyslog explains the various log facilities. |
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| 13:31.21 | hyppias | ok |
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| 13:34.02 | petn-randall | wrksx: Instead of trying to break your system to work with your windows shell, why not use a proper shell (e.g. putty) in the first place? |
| 13:34.23 | petn-randall | wrksx: In 2013 even Windows should be able to handle utf8. |
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| 13:35.53 | yapp | hi what is ur favorite UML / SW-Modelling tool? |
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| 13:36.56 | petn-randall | !survey |
| 13:36.56 | dpkg | survey is, like, Don't ask whether 'somebody uses <app>' unless conducting a survey. Ask the question that you want to ask. |
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| 13:37.24 | MichaelP | Whats better on a fresh install apt-get dist-upgrade or apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
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| 13:38.05 | wrksx | petn-randall: can putty shell execute batch (.bat) files ? |
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| 13:39.22 | babilen | MichaelP: The latter is probably not needed very often (as it is unlikely that packages have to be removed), but feel free to use both commands whenever necessary. |
| 13:39.41 | petn-randall | wrksx: No, it connects via SSH to your Debian machine. But now I think I understood your original question wrong. How is your setup? |
| 13:39.51 | babilen | MichaelP: I'd recommend to read the manpage of apt-get to learn about the meaning/difference of/between upgrade and dist-upgrade |
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| 13:40.48 | wrksx | petn-randall: I run a bat script that connects to my box via plink and execute some deploy scripts |
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| 13:41.28 | MichaelP | babilen, i know upgrade does just packages and dist-upgrade upgrades and does depends |
| 13:42.32 | babilen | MichaelP: it's primarily about the removal of packages |
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| 13:42.48 | MichaelP | ohh ok |
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| 13:44.13 | babilen | MichaelP: Which shouldn't be necessary often on stable, so the two commands are essentially equivalent on your setup. The correct advice, however, is: Use whatever command is appropriate for the current situation |
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| 13:45.01 | babilen | MichaelP: It really depends on what you want to achieve as well -- There is no: "This set of commands will always do what you want". If such a set would exist we would simply run it automagically and be done with it ;) |
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| 13:45.58 | MichaelP | babilen, so going from wheezy to say sid.. then both is better.. but for just wheezy then the dist-upgrade is the better one |
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| 13:46.57 | themill | MichaelP: you should go via jessie not directly from wheezy to sid. |
| 13:47.03 | moof2 | unless you like to solve problems you woulnd't otherwise have to, sid isn't a choice that will make things easier |
| 13:47.10 | babilen | MichaelP: err, no .. not quite. Upgrading from stable to either testing or unstable might (or might not) be easier/more likely to succeed if you run "apt-get upgrade" first and then "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
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| 13:47.32 | MichaelP | ok |
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| 13:48.24 | babilen | MichaelP: What I said was rather: It shouldn't be necessary to run dist-upgrade on stable very often. You can still run it, but it would essentially do the same thing as "upgrade" -- The best way to upgrade to testing/unstable is a completely different thing than keeping a stable system up-to-date with security updates. |
| 13:48.32 | wrksx | petn-randall: changing shell output encoding is hacking for you ? |
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| 13:48.55 | wrksx | I mean it seeams weird ? |
| 13:48.57 | moof2 | hacking for bowling |
| 13:49.19 | moof2 | just don't screw the floor finish |
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| 13:50.02 | MichaelP | ok thanks |
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| 13:50.12 | jhutchins_wk | Back around etch there were more regular updates to stable, and more serious ones. |
| 13:50.37 | jhutchins_wk | Seems like squeeze hardly got any updates while it was stable. |
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| 13:51.19 | mumpitze1 | etch had a etch and a half repos |
| 13:51.29 | jhutchins_wk | Yep. |
| 13:51.46 | anddam | thanks all for the mysql help |
| 13:51.54 | themill | jhutchins_wk: that's crap |
| 13:52.11 | moof2 | I think etch*1.5 was a kernel update to help support additional devices |
| 13:52.22 | mumpitze1 | it was a whole repo |
| 13:52.32 | themill | no, it was kernel+xorg |
| 13:52.40 | jhutchins_wk | themill: If you say so. |
| 13:53.05 | themill | jhutchins_wk: I say so on the basis of fact rather than idle speculation, however. |
| 13:53.34 | themill | backported kernel drivers landed in both the lenny and squeeze kernels at *every* point release and newer kernels and newer xorg were provided through backports |
| 13:53.42 | jhutchins_wk | themill: Which particular part are you saying is crap? |
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| 13:55.17 | jelly | I'm guessing <jhutchins_wk> Seems like squeeze hardly got any updates while it was stable. |
| 13:55.50 | rozie | http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf |
| 13:56.18 | rozie | what kind of updates do you mean? |
| 13:56.26 | rozie | there are backports... |
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| 13:56.36 | pippijn | who was helping me here before? |
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| 13:56.47 | DotHack | pippijn: me? |
| 13:57.03 | pippijn | right |
| 13:57.12 | pippijn | I got a netboot |
| 13:57.22 | pippijn | the recovery system is a ramdisk-loaded system |
| 13:57.27 | pippijn | unbrickable |
| 13:57.40 | pippijn | so I unpacked libc 2.17 into the system |
| 13:57.44 | pippijn | and rebooted |
| 13:58.00 | pippijn | then I had to install 2.17, but it refused, because the files were already there |
| 13:58.26 | pippijn | so I copied all the 2.17 libs to the 2.13 names, linked them to the common names (except for ld.so) |
| 13:58.34 | pippijn | and then deleted the 2.17 names |
| 13:58.37 | pippijn | then the install worked |
| 13:58.41 | DotHack | pippijn: cool |
| 13:58.42 | pippijn | now everything is working |
| 13:58.56 | moof2 | so, so far so good, right? |
| 13:59.06 | pippijn | thanks for your help |
| 13:59.15 | DotHack | pippijn: is the recovery system something default? or is it a vps? |
| 13:59.30 | pippijn | it's a root server |
| 13:59.37 | pippijn | the bootloader has a netboot |
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| 13:59.54 | believethebible | repent now! for the kingdom of god is at hand! |
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| 14:00.25 | moof2 | evidently I don't have to type !ops |
| 14:00.31 | ykkie | my WM/desktop has frozen twice now, both times while I was syncing a lot of data from my server in the background. Not sure how to go about debugging this exactly. What could I put in place to monitor things more closely in anticipation of it happening again? |
| 14:00.37 | DotHack | pippijn: so it boots a system provided by your provider? |
| 14:00.40 | pippijn | yes |
| 14:00.49 | DotHack | pippijn: nice! |
| 14:00.52 | pippijn | indeed |
| 14:01.06 | pippijn | then I can mount my disk and fix things |
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| 14:01.55 | DotHack | pippijn: nice to knwo right! |
| 14:02.25 | pippijn | yep |
| 14:02.38 | pippijn | it's also not bad to have rebooted |
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| 14:03.01 | pippijn | feels good |
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| 14:04.25 | DotHack | pippijn: hehe to bad for the uptime though haha |
| 14:04.35 | pippijn | I don't care so much about that |
| 14:04.39 | pippijn | how much downtime did I have? |
| 14:04.49 | pippijn | I've been up for over a year with no downtime |
| 14:05.36 | zaltekk | no kernel security updates? |
| 14:05.54 | pippijn | zaltekk: I have only trusted local users |
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| 14:06.35 | zaltekk | pippijn: no networking? |
| 14:06.39 | pippijn | yes, networking |
| 14:06.44 | pippijn | but no remote exploits |
| 14:06.48 | zaltekk | then you may have untrusted local users |
| 14:07.16 | moof2 | my laptop is running amd64 and I'm trying to mount the disk of another amd64 system which won't boot for various reasons. while it is my goal to get it to boot, what I'm focused on right now is how can I get in there and install/remove packages, and run things? |
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| 14:07.44 | zaltekk | chroot? |
| 14:07.52 | themill | moof2: mount /dev/borked /mnt/borked; chroot /mnt/borked |
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| 14:08.43 | moof2 | ok, let me see what I can do... anything else I need mounted before everything will work properly? |
| 14:08.47 | pippijn | zaltekk: I'm running 2.6.32-5 |
| 14:09.05 | pippijn | zaltekk: there have not been security updates to that for a long time |
| 14:09.14 | themill | moof2: mounting /proc and /dev/pts (and perhaps /dev) into the chroot is a good plan too |
| 14:09.26 | zaltekk | pippijn: aye, probably not |
| 14:09.43 | themill | dpkg: tell moof2 about reinstall grub |
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| 14:11.10 | moof2 | I don't think I need to reinstall grub, as that does boot. but, I will need to rebuild the initrd after getting rid of (the accidentally installed) dracut ... (back in a sec) |
| 14:11.33 | zaltekk | moof2: it will explain how to get the system in the state you want |
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| 14:13.50 | moof2 | here's something else... is it possible to build the initrd on a different machine than the one where the disk was originally mounted? |
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| 14:16.06 | moof2 | if not,,, is it possible to script it so that it boots and then rebuilds the initrd? |
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| 14:16.50 | nullby7e | what display manager uses debian? |
| 14:16.52 | nullby7e | lightdm? |
| 14:17.05 | nullby7e | wheezy |
| 14:17.11 | themill | nullby7e: whichever one you choose to install |
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| 14:18.31 | moof2 | there's gnome, kde, lxde, xfce, lotsa (not de but) wms |
| 14:18.37 | nullby7e | themill: 7 |
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| 14:19.25 | moof2 | nullbyte, howbout we reverse the question: which windo manager or desktop env do you want? |
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| 14:23.00 | nullby7e | moof2: ? |
| 14:23.19 | nullby7e | moof2: i am using gnome but i am askiing which display manager uses deb |
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| 14:23.33 | nullby7e | moof2: lightdm or .. |
| 14:23.38 | themill | nullby7e: debian uses the display manager you install |
| 14:23.57 | nullby7e | and what display manager i have install ? |
| 14:24.03 | themill | ,rprovides x-display-manager |
| 14:24.06 | judd | Package x-display-manager in wheezy/i386 is provided by: slim, gdm3, kdm, lightdm, xdm, wdm. |
| 14:24.18 | themill | any of them. probably gdm3 if you're using gnome |
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| 14:24.34 | moof2 | I'm having trouble understanding what you want (and also how what you've been told so far is not what you want) |
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| 14:27.12 | abrotman | that was painful |
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| 14:27.27 | roger_ | hi |
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| 14:28.31 | roger_ | I'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/GyG8xC8w everytime I make apt-get -f install, how can I fix this mysql installation? |
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| 14:29.33 | themill | roger_: don't use crap packages from dotdeb would be the easiest approach |
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| 14:29.47 | unborn | roger_, (Broken pipe) |
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| 14:30.01 | unborn | it does say what is broken |
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| 14:30.59 | roger_ | themill then which repo should I use? |
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| 14:32.26 | themill | roger_: debian's repos have all these packages already and debian actually cares about being able to upgrade which dotdeb does not. |
| 14:32.27 | themill | roger_: at this stage, you're going to have to use some force to get dpkg to work through this. /msg dpkg force-overwrite |
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| 14:33.11 | roger_ | ok ty |
| 14:33.22 | unborn | :) |
| 14:33.53 | unborn | IF anyone stay on open-source there will be no errors :) |
| 14:34.17 | abrotman | blinks .. |
| 14:34.27 | themill | roger_: I'd suggest working out what else you've got installed from dotdeb and getting rid of it. |
| 14:34.56 | deception | dpkg's sense of humor makes me happy |
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| 14:36.23 | unborn | deception, you are not alone :D |
| 14:36.26 | moof2 | "sense" is probably a strong word |
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| 14:36.49 | unborn | moof2, depends how you say it :) |
| 14:37.18 | moof2 | if you mean "in which context", agreed |
| 14:37.48 | unborn | moof2, i just said it.. heh is my english that bad? :) |
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| 14:40.05 | moof2 | actually I can't find a place where you said "sense", since I joined the channel |
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| 14:41.11 | unborn | moof2, i aint said that :) thats why you cannot find it.. did you even thing there is another possible solution to this like i aint said that? :) |
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| 14:41.48 | moof2 | what you just said approximately matches an eliza pattern |
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| 14:42.10 | MichaelP | Where are gnome-shell-extensions stored ? |
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| 14:42.44 | dionyziz | Hello. I'd like to install python-django on my debian system. I'd like to install the 1.5 version. I'm running Debian 6.0.6. However, in the squeeze-backports repository, I only see verison 1.4, and 1.5 is available only in sid. What should I do? |
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| 14:43.01 | unborn | moof2, there could be some reason behind it also it could not.. depends how you feel about it.. back to the point of this channel.. lets help each other and others :) |
| 14:43.10 | unborn | debian is awesome! |
| 14:43.16 | petn-randall | dionyziz: Either wait, or you can backport it yourself. |
| 14:43.19 | petn-randall | !ssb |
| 14:43.20 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 14:43.23 | petn-randall | ^^ dionyziz |
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| 14:44.19 | dionyziz | !deb-src sid |
| 14:44.20 | dpkg | You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free". Remember to "apt-get update" after changing your sources.list. |
| 14:44.27 | dionyziz | petn-randall: Thanks :) |
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| 14:44.43 | ykkie | anyone know how I can track down the root cause of a frozen desktop/WM? |
| 14:44.45 | dionyziz | !bdo |
| 14:44.46 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable and oldstable distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 14:44.55 | themill | dionyziz: you can just /msg dpkg keyword |
| 14:45.00 | dionyziz | themill: Thanks, sorry for the spam. |
| 14:45.28 | themill | dionyziz: btw the reason newer django isn't in squeeze-backports etc yet is that its compatibility with various webapps is pretty poor. |
| 14:46.09 | dionyziz | themill: I'm building a new webapp, so compatibility isn't an issue for me right now. I understand that this can be an important decision-making factor for packagers, however. |
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| 14:46.21 | themill | (actually, you'll *never* find it in squeeze-backports bug you might find it in squeeze-backports-sloppy one day) |
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| 14:46.47 | dionyziz | themill: I'd like to utilize Django's new customizable user model, which is unavailable in 1.4, which is why I'm making a deal out of this. |
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| 14:47.00 | themill | dionyziz: what sort of servers do you envisage this being deployed on? |
| 14:47.23 | dionyziz | themill: My home computer. It's a school project. I don't have any requirements for production-level stability. |
| 14:47.37 | petn-randall | dionyziz: If you developing a new web app, I'd upgrade to wheezy and use that as a starting point. Squeeze is oldstable for a while now. |
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| 14:48.00 | themill | dionyziz: ok. Your users would hate you if you were requiring components not available in wheezy :) |
| 14:48.31 | dionyziz | themill: And that would be a very reasonable reason to! :) |
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| 14:50.16 | dionyziz | petn-randall: I'm working on this project with a colleague, so we'd like to use one of our servers for this - but not for public consumption. The server runs debian squeeze, and it also runs some other services which *are* used by other people, so I don't have the freedom to upgrade to wheezy. |
| 14:50.46 | dionyziz | I can upgrade django at will, however, since none of the other services use it. |
| 14:51.13 | dionyziz | But I think your train of thought is correct, and maybe I should set up a separate box for this. |
| 14:51.55 | dionyziz | Thank you both for your assistance :) |
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| 14:53.50 | petn-randall | dionyziz: You could set up a debian wheezy chroot to experiment on, without hurting the rest of the system. There's no downside except for taking up some disk space. |
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| 15:00.13 | DrFoo | How do I find the root dir of a directory tree with no files in the tree? |
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| 15:01.30 | zeeflo | Is it possible to extend a partition (ext4)? Is it just forcefsck or ? |
| 15:02.26 | jhutchins_wk | DrFoo: e2fstools |
| 15:02.37 | jhutchins_wk | er, zeeflo |
| 15:02.54 | zeeflo | hehe |
| 15:02.57 | zeeflo | ok |
| 15:03.12 | DrFoo | jhutchins_wk: anything fs agnostic? |
| 15:03.55 | jhutchins_wk | DrFoo: Sorry, that was meant for zeeflo. Not sure what you mean by your question. |
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| 15:04.55 | zeeflo | Well, I have a VM (vmware esxi 5.1), and one of its partitions is only 100GB. I resized the partition in vmware, but I wonder how I extend it in debian. |
| 15:05.00 | zeeflo | jhutchins_wk: |
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| 15:05.13 | abrotman | DrFoo: huh ? |
| 15:05.26 | abrotman | DrFoo: man dirname ? |
| 15:05.41 | jhutchins_wk | zeeflo: e2fstools |
| 15:05.48 | DrFoo | let's say I have a dir tree, but it has no files. Let's assume the root of that empty dir tree is somewhere in my filsystem. How do I find it? |
| 15:05.53 | zeeflo | jhutchins_wk: thanks.. Ill man it |
| 15:06.06 | jhutchins_wk | zeeflo: There is lots of information on what to do on google. |
| 15:06.09 | abrotman | DrFoo: oh, you want to find which directories have no files within ? |
| 15:06.23 | DrFoo | yes.. then find the root of that tree structure |
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| 15:06.42 | DrFoo | it is likely that whole tree structures won't have files. |
| 15:06.43 | zeeflo | jhutchins_wk: oh, does it support expanding the partition without dataloss? |
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| 15:06.57 | jhutchins_wk | DrFoo: If it's not the root of the filesystem the question's meaningless. If it's a mounted filesystem, mount will show where it's mounted. |
| 15:07.12 | jhutchins_wk | zeeflo: Yes. |
| 15:07.23 | zeeflo | jhutchins_wk: great, thanks |
| 15:07.43 | jhutchins_wk | zeeflo: Any time you mess with a partition you need to have a backup. |
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| 15:08.16 | zeeflo | jhutchins_wk: its not crucial data, i can always restore it. But it would be nice not having to ;) |
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| 15:08.39 | zeeflo | 100GB data over 100mbit takes an hour or two :) |
| 15:08.39 | abrotman | DrFoo: #bash might have a fun script for you |
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| 15:10.45 | zeeflo | is the command really only resize2fs /dev/sdbX <desired size> ? |
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| 15:11.19 | jelly | zeeflo: yes, and <desired size> is optional as well |
| 15:11.36 | zeeflo | if I do not define it, it just extends to max size? |
| 15:11.40 | jelly | correct |
| 15:11.54 | zeeflo | holy crap.. Its easier then you would believe! |
| 15:12.10 | alfplayer | Hello. Do you know a tool to animate graphs (as in graph theory)? |
| 15:12.28 | jelly | zeeflo: careful use of no-partitions and perhaps lvm can make the whole process online |
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| 15:13.09 | zeeflo | ok.. Im using ext4 on it though. |
| 15:13.23 | petn-randall | alfplayer: Animate for what? A lot more context would help :) |
| 15:13.24 | zeeflo | I just bought a server just to play with NFS later today |
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| 15:13.40 | gazzwi86 | I'm trying to get a file to run on startup, I've created /etc/init.d/ssh_tunnel then ran, sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/ssh_tunnel and sudo update-rc.d ssh_tunnel defaults |
| 15:13.46 | jhutchins_wk | zeeflo: ext3 & 4 are extensions of ext2 |
| 15:13.46 | gazzwi86 | I still don't get it running on boot |
| 15:13.52 | gazzwi86 | where would it error log |
| 15:13.59 | zeeflo | yes jhutchins_wk |
| 15:14.13 | zeeflo | alright, here goes! |
| 15:14.21 | jhutchins_wk | gazzwi86: Where you tell the script to log. |
| 15:14.29 | alfplayer | petn-randall: Simple to use, like a sketching tool, to help visualize working with git repos. |
| 15:14.56 | zeeflo | hmm |
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| 15:15.37 | zeeflo | fs is already xx blocks long |
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| 15:15.59 | brontosaurusrex | alfplayer, example output? |
| 15:16.43 | alfplayer | brontosaurusrex: for example, moving a branch on top of another branch |
| 15:17.35 | gazzwi86 | jhutchins_wk: how can i set that then? Any docs? Also, what could be up with it other wish? |
| 15:17.41 | gazzwi86 | wise* |
| 15:20.04 | zeeflo | I dont get it.. the partition is 100GB, the drive is 200GB, but it states that #fs is already xx blocks long |
| 15:20.55 | zeeflo | should I unmount it first or? |
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| 15:21.48 | petn-randall | alfplayer: You mean like 'gitk --all' ? |
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| 15:22.12 | zeeflo | http://pastebin.com/piYYU1mD |
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| 15:22.45 | alfplayer | petn-randall: Yes. It doesn't have to be integrated with git. I can create the graphs myself. |
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| 15:23.47 | petn-randall | alfplayer: I still don't have the big picture of what you're trying to achieve. |
| 15:23.52 | alfplayer | Or a simple animation tool that implements lines, curves, and text. |
| 15:24.04 | petn-randall | alfplayer: Like graphviz? |
| 15:24.15 | zeeflo | jhutchins_wk: http://pastebin.com/piYYU1mD |
| 15:24.31 | alfplayer | petn-randall: Graphviz does animation? |
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| 15:25.33 | petn-randall | alfplayer: Graphviz can do lots of things, but without knowing your grand picture, I can't give you an educated answer what the best tool is for the job. |
| 15:25.35 | alfplayer | petn-randall: I want to animate it, like for a rebasing demostration, or to help me understand. |
| 15:26.42 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, you need to enlarge the partition first before using resize2fs |
| 15:26.54 | zeeflo | aha |
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| 15:27.06 | zeeflo | growfs then blubberdiblub ? |
| 15:27.06 | alfplayer | petn-randall: The thing I have in mind now is animating a series of git rebases. That is moving branches on top of other branches. |
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| 15:27.19 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, no, the partition itself. in the partition table |
| 15:27.23 | asturel | is there linpack package for debian? |
| 15:27.37 | asturel | or any cpu stress tester |
| 15:27.40 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, using fdisk, cfdisk or whatever tool suits you |
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| 15:29.29 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, just make sure you retain the same start sector |
| 15:29.40 | zeeflo | alright |
| 15:29.45 | zeeflo | Ill look into this |
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| 15:30.51 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, you know, it's the fdisk output i'm talking about. this outputs your partition table. the partition is the container for your filesystem, so you must enlarge the container (the partition) first, before you enlarge the contained filesystem |
| 15:31.16 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, resize2fs only resizes the filesystem |
| 15:31.32 | zeeflo | blubberdiblub: yea, i think Im on it |
| 15:31.39 | zeeflo | I gotta umount the partition |
| 15:31.43 | zeeflo | fdisk it |
| 15:32.01 | zeeflo | resize the sdb1 |
| 15:32.05 | zeeflo | mount it, done |
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| 15:32.10 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, it can be done without umounting, too. but unmounting doesn't hurt, either |
| 15:32.26 | jelly | zeeflo: reboot after fdisk if anything else on that disk is in use |
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| 15:32.59 | jelly | if anything else on that disk is in use, the kernel cannot update its internal state of the partition table layout |
| 15:33.18 | zeeflo | got it |
| 15:33.19 | blubberdiblub | jelly, zeeflo, rebooting is not strictly necessary (there's partprobe), but yeah, rebooting is one way to get the partition tables reread |
| 15:33.27 | jelly | blubberdiblub: it doesn't work. |
| 15:33.32 | blubberdiblub | jelly, it does work |
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| 15:33.55 | jelly | blubberdiblub: on disks in use? |
| 15:34.00 | blubberdiblub | jelly, yes |
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| 15:34.09 | zeeflo | i can test partprobe as soon as I got this figured out, and then ill let you know :) |
| 15:34.12 | jelly | blubberdiblub: since which kernel v? |
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| 15:34.39 | blubberdiblub | jelly, i'm not sure since when, but ever since i've known about partprobe. note that i'm specifically talking about "partprobe" |
| 15:34.47 | jelly | nod |
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| 15:37.04 | zeeflo | im in fdisk |
| 15:37.13 | tockitj | I get this when trying to dpkg -i package: conflicting packages - not installing bash-completion |
| 15:37.16 | tockitj | how to list conflicts |
| 15:37.16 | zeeflo | can I get a helping hand on how to extend sdb1 ? |
| 15:37.22 | zeeflo | I dont want to screw up |
| 15:37.28 | tockitj | what conflicts with what |
| 15:37.40 | p3rror | what does setuidgid |
| 15:37.40 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, first, print the partition table and take note of the values |
| 15:37.51 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, particularly the start sector |
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| 15:38.11 | zeeflo | I did that |
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| 15:38.22 | zeeflo | start is 2048 so thats easy to remember |
| 15:38.25 | peterrooney | tockitj: aptitude why-not package |
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| 15:38.41 | zeeflo | is it under x ? |
| 15:38.50 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, then delete the partition (don't worry, it won't delete the data and the new table won't be written until you tell it to) |
| 15:38.57 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, and recreate it |
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| 15:39.07 | tockitj | peterrooney, this is localy created deb |
| 15:39.08 | zeeflo | ah ok |
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| 15:39.51 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, after creating the partition again, print the partition table again (from within the menu, don't leave fdisk) |
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| 15:40.14 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, and compare the starting sector to the old starting sector |
| 15:40.26 | jelly | p3rror: sets the effective uid and gid and execs a program |
| 15:40.34 | zeeflo | blubberdiblub: done |
| 15:40.36 | zeeflo | looks good |
| 15:40.44 | jelly | p3rror: ... there's a manual! |
| 15:40.52 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, okay, also verify that the partition is now bigger |
| 15:40.57 | zeeflo | it is |
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| 15:41.06 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, good, then write it to the disk |
| 15:41.14 | zeeflo | end block is now twice the size |
| 15:41.17 | zeeflo | i did that |
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| 15:41.36 | zeeflo | im ready to resize2fs :) |
| 15:41.43 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, leave fdisk. cat /proc/partitions, take note of the size. then run partprobe |
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| 15:42.04 | zeeflo | dont I need to run resizefs ? |
| 15:42.05 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, after that, run cat /proc/partitions again and verify that the size has increased |
| 15:42.12 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, not yet. step by step |
| 15:42.15 | zeeflo | ok |
| 15:43.02 | zeeflo | cat partitions shows its not grown |
| 15:43.09 | zeeflo | Ill run partprobe |
| 15:43.19 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, that's normal. you have to run partprobe first |
| 15:43.33 | p3rror | jelly, that is mean that you can execute a command using a difference uid and gid ?!! |
| 15:43.34 | zeeflo | i dont have it installed |
| 15:43.39 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, apt-get install parted |
| 15:43.45 | zeeflo | is it not parted? |
| 15:43.46 | zeeflo | yes |
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| 15:43.53 | p3rror | jelly, can you give me an example, when we can use it |
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| 15:44.02 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, the package is "parted", the program to run is "partprobe" |
| 15:44.30 | zeeflo | i ran partprobe |
| 15:44.49 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, now cat /proc/partitions and verify if the size has increased |
| 15:44.49 | zeeflo | the partition hasnt grown |
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| 15:45.13 | jelly | p3rror: being a part of djb's daemontools, it's typically used in run scripts for services |
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| 15:45.37 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, hmm, interesting, seems jelly was right. it has always worked for me, tho. you'll have to reboot then |
| 15:45.44 | jelly | p3rror: of course, you have to be root for it to work |
| 15:45.47 | zeeflo | just reboot? |
| 15:45.54 | p3rror | jelly, yeah I see |
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| 15:46.08 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, yeah, the kernel needs to take note of the new partition size |
| 15:46.13 | p3rror | jelly, but I did not really have a explicit example of use |
| 15:46.48 | zeeflo | the server rebooted |
| 15:46.59 | zeeflo | the partition still has the same ending block |
| 15:47.13 | zeeflo | do I resize it now? |
| 15:47.13 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, the new ending block, right? |
| 15:47.24 | zeeflo | no, theres no change in ending block |
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| 15:48.00 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, but you wrote a new partition table to the disk with fdisk. did you actually write it as i told you? |
| 15:48.06 | zeeflo | yes |
| 15:48.07 | jelly | p3rror: a generic example is useless really, but if you really want one, setuidgid nobody /usr/bin/id -a |
| 15:48.41 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, can you show me the output of fdisk -l on a paste site? |
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| 15:48.59 | jelly | its cousin envuidgid is a bit more useful |
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| 15:49.44 | zeeflo | yes |
| 15:49.49 | p3rror | jelly, yes |
| 15:49.55 | zeeflo | i just gotta run to the toilet real quick |
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| 15:50.12 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, sure, no worries |
| 15:50.16 | p3rror | jelly, thank you I understand now |
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| 15:53.59 | zeeflo | blubberdiblub: this is weird |
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| 15:54.11 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, what is it? |
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| 15:54.48 | zeeflo | blubberdiblub: fdisk says that the new end block is 419430399, the old end block is 209715199 |
| 15:54.53 | zeeflo | but it hasnt resized... |
| 15:55.00 | k91s71n4 | people I'm having this problem when trying to upgrade my debian squeeze |
| 15:55.07 | k91s71n4 | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/494fbfe67f5694d77108 |
| 15:55.21 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, go slow. can you give me the output of /proc/partitions, please? |
| 15:55.46 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, the /dev/sdb1 line is enough |
| 15:55.56 | zeeflo | blubberdiblub: its 209714176 for sdb1 |
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| 15:56.19 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, that's fine. so it has resized. so now you can finally resize2fs on /dev/sdb1 |
| 15:56.27 | zeeflo | ahh ok |
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| 15:56.59 | zeeflo | blubberdiblub: it instructs me to run e2fsck first |
| 15:57.36 | jelly | zeeflo: yeah, ignore that. Run it when the fs is _mounted_ instead. |
| 15:57.37 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, you don't have it mounted? i guess it recommends to do that when offline resizing |
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| 15:57.50 | gazzwi86 | I have set up a crontab but it doesn't appear to work |
| 15:57.57 | gazzwi86 | @reboot /home/pi/ssh_tunnel > /var/log/ssh_tunnel.log 2>&1 |
| 15:58.03 | tacomaster | Hello, when i search "iwlagn" (which is my intel wifi card) all i get is iwlwifi wiki from debain, but it has alot of intel wifi cards here. I do not see the exact card that i have in here though. Is this the wiki i need to be following or not? My wifi card is "Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1030". |
| 15:58.06 | zeeflo | i ran e2fsck and now im running resize |
| 15:58.13 | zeeflo | done |
| 15:58.36 | zeeflo | And it works |
| 15:58.41 | gazzwi86 | the script runs fine if i just run it so I don't get it, can anyone help? |
| 15:58.44 | tacomaster | ooo yea and the wiki i found is "http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi" |
| 15:58.48 | zeeflo | the partition has resized, and I have no data loss :) |
| 15:58.50 | mtn | k91s71n4: did you try what it suggested to do? |
| 15:58.55 | zeeflo | Thank you jelly and blubberdiblub |
| 15:59.13 | blubberdiblub | zeeflo, you're welcome |
| 15:59.27 | nkuttler | tacomaster: what do you mean? Wireless-N 1030 is listed twice |
| 15:59.28 | k91s71n4 | mtn, sorry but I cannot see any suggestion :S |
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| 15:59.57 | mtn | k91s71n4: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these. |
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| 16:02.42 | k91s71n4 | thanks, I've been trying this but was not working, I've changed the content of my repository and now this command worked, you know, you try one thing 100 times but it works when somebody is looking |
| 16:02.44 | k91s71n4 | :) |
| 16:02.45 | k91s71n4 | thanks |
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| 16:03.35 | tacomaster | nkuttler: ehh sorry didn't notice the list all the way at the bottom, wasn't trying to waist your time :D ty tho. |
| 16:04.22 | k91s71n4 | mtn, how can I remove my installations of java, i have and old one ( icedtea included) and I want the last java-7 from sun :( |
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| 16:05.03 | mtn | k91s71n4: sorry, don't use java. installing from non-debian sources can always be "interesting". |
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| 16:08.20 | k91s71n4 | does anybody how to install apache solr jetty? |
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| 16:13.59 | babilen | judd: v solr-jetty |
| 16:14.03 | judd | Package: solr-jetty on i386 -- wheezy: 3.6.0+dfsg-1; jessie: 3.6.2+dfsg-1; sid: 3.6.2+dfsg-1 |
| 16:14.26 | babilen | k91s71n4: "apt-get install solr-jetty" (unless you want a different version, but then please ask in #lucene) |
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| 16:14.52 | k91s71n4 | sorry, configure, I can't get jetty to run start.jar |
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| 16:15.50 | babilen | k91s71n4: Does README.Debian mention anything about this? Did you install the solr-jetty package? |
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| 16:17.07 | k91s71n4 | I installed solr-jetty package |
| 16:17.11 | babilen | k91s71n4: But I have to run now .. if you don't get any further you might want to ask in an upstream channel |
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| 16:17.42 | babilen | k91s71n4: #solr and/or #jetty might get you further |
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| 16:19.12 | k91s71n4 | oh |
| 16:19.13 | k91s71n4 | thanks |
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| 16:21.21 | nullby7e | can i use add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 to system? |
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| 16:23.23 | ksk_ | nullby7e: you should not use ppa repos with debian, they are for ubuntu |
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| 16:29.54 | jhutchins_wk | nullby7e: I would particularly avoid anything to do with gnome, unity, and gnome forks. |
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| 16:30.18 | jhutchins_wk | Ubuntu's packaging of those is VERY different. |
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| 16:45.15 | ibmthinkpad | why would you have LDAP inside MySQL? |
| 16:45.36 | ibmthinkpad | not trying to troll, just found out you could, and I just want to know valid usecases |
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| 16:46.10 | the_weanus | I'm looking for some guidance on creating an unattended wheezy install iso. tweaking the example default.preseed and using simple-cdd, I've been able to get Very Close, but... |
| 16:46.47 | the_weanus | I can't seem to preseed the keymap selection - I always get prompted. |
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| 16:49.58 | the_weanus | ibmthinkpad: DS != DB - I've heard 2nd-hand reports of that going very badly. |
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| 16:52.37 | ibmthinkpad | DS? |
| 16:53.01 | ibmthinkpad | I just found out the LDAP is in MySQL where I'm at |
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| 16:54.01 | the_weanus | directory service |
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| 17:02.07 | moof2 | if I mount --bind /dev /target/dev , then does /dev/pts come with it? |
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| 17:04.04 | the_weanus | moof2: I think so - what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 17:04.04 | ibmthinkpad | the_weanus: of LDAP in MySQL going badly? why? what happened? |
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| 17:05.31 | moof2 | the_weanus, on my laptop, mount an installation under /target that was installed onto a different machine... |
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| 17:06.02 | moof2 | then chroot in and remove that idiotic dracut |
| 17:07.18 | moof2 | and try rebuilding its initrd without that buggy thing |
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| 17:08.46 | ibmthinkpad | you don't love dracut? |
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| 17:10.05 | moof2 | it's broken |
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| 17:11.56 | moof2 | it doesn't work. the installation in question is on a disk with like 9 volume groups, and dracut can't figure out what vg to activate (when it should activate all of them) |
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| 17:13.05 | the_weanus | moof2: I think I've done something similar under Gentoo, so that should work. |
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| 17:13.24 | moof2 | and then... this is choice brokenness... since the volume group is not found, it drops into a shell, under which the keyboard and mouse don't work |
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| 17:13.54 | the_weanus | ibmthinkpad: I've /heard/ that mysql barfs under heavy read load of the directory. |
| 17:13.58 | moof2 | (and "don't work" means: you push keys, no effect. you move mouse, nothing happens.) |
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| 17:16.51 | fleeky | im trying to block all ports on a specific device with iptables but am not getting it anyone have experience with this ? |
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| 17:18.10 | fleeky | was trying to use -i ETH0 |
| 17:18.19 | fleeky | but it was saying not allowed |
| 17:18.34 | fleeky | then i tried -s 192.168.1.9/8 so it was just working on one set of ips |
| 17:18.44 | mmnicolas | are you sure it's not eth0 instead |
| 17:18.45 | ghostbar | maybe ETH0 does not exists but eth0 |
| 17:18.46 | ghostbar | ? |
| 17:19.02 | fleeky | so your saying -i should have worked |
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| 17:19.26 | ghostbar | in fact, it should work without -i if you are following a good how to. |
| 17:19.33 | mmnicolas | why would you want to do that ? |
| 17:19.53 | mmnicolas | why not just shut down the interface if you're to block everything |
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| 17:20.03 | fleeky | well i have an interface to the net and an interface inside |
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| 17:20.24 | fleeky | so basically its just easy to compartmentalize it to eth0 |
| 17:20.27 | fleeky | rather then eth1 |
| 17:20.39 | fleeky | eth1 is what all internal traffic goes through |
| 17:20.43 | fleeky | and then it goes to eth0 to the outside |
| 17:20.56 | the_weanus | so what's wrong w/ 'ifconfig eth0 down'? |
| 17:21.19 | fleeky | ? |
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| 17:21.54 | moof2 | there are systems that call ifconfig, and if you alter something with ifconfig, then the system built on top of ifconfig will be out of sync |
| 17:22.06 | mmnicolas | so this unit is also your router and you don't want other devices on your lan to access the internet ? |
| 17:23.10 | the_weanus | moof2: I assume a dual-homed machine isn't going to be using NetworkManager - AssUMe, huh? :^) |
| 17:23.13 | fleeky | no i do want other devices to be able to access it .. im setting up a firewall and its easier to restrict stuff on eth0 from coming in and just let eth1 do whatever |
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| 17:23.30 | fleeky | iptables -p input drop -i eth0 |
| 17:23.37 | fleeky | this was the line in question that wasnt working |
| 17:24.05 | the_weanus | fleeky: maybe check out shorewall, a nice wrapper for iptables. or install pfSense... |
| 17:24.29 | fleeky | i suppose i could do that .. was just trying to learn iptables ;) |
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| 17:25.00 | ghostbar | It's just a line, he should not use a whole different thing because a line isn't working |
| 17:25.01 | fleeky | also its cli only server , so either it needs to be cli based or web browser based |
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| 17:25.22 | the_weanus | try capital p for 'policy' - no lowercase for 'protocol' |
| 17:25.35 | fleeky | the_weanus: sorry i meant capital P |
| 17:25.38 | ghostbar | you are doing it wrong fleeky |
| 17:25.40 | fleeky | i was typing it in here lazily |
| 17:25.41 | ghostbar | -p is for protocol |
| 17:25.46 | fleeky | yeah my mistake sorry |
| 17:25.49 | fleeky | in the script it is -P |
| 17:25.58 | fleeky | -i was lowercase |
| 17:26.26 | ghostbar | it should be iptables -P INPUT -i eth0 -j DROP |
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| 17:26.33 | moof2 | for this, there's no need for a network, I just have to adjust some packages |
| 17:26.34 | fleeky | hmm ok i will try that |
| 17:27.01 | ghostbar | Try following a good how to. It should explain you this |
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| 17:28.44 | fleeky | thanks ghostbar |
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| 17:29.20 | ghostbar | fleeky: np ;-) just remember that the action should be at the end and if there's something else than a -P you will need to use -j |
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| 17:30.59 | abrotman | he could ask #netfilter .. |
| 17:31.04 | fleeky | ok one more really weird thing |
| 17:31.11 | fleeky | its telling me -X requires a chain and a policy |
| 17:31.22 | fleeky | and yet there is no -X use anywhere in the script far as i can tell |
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| 17:33.02 | msn | how do you kill a process with status Z |
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| 17:33.04 | the_weanus | fleeky: maybe a '--delete-chain'? |
| 17:33.06 | msn | -9 doesnt wokr |
| 17:33.08 | msn | work |
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| 17:38.08 | ghostbar | msn: and you have enough privileges? |
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| 17:43.05 | fleeky | thanks for the help #debian |
| 17:43.30 | zykotick9 | msn: does Z mean zombie? if so (and i don't know that it is), then you can't kill it (it's already dead - sorta). |
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| 17:43.43 | the_weanus | fleeky: you got it to work? |
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| 17:44.17 | abrotman | !zombie |
| 17:44.17 | dpkg | A zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
| 17:44.19 | the_weanus | zykotick9: yeah, my first thought was that msn should shoot it in the head. or decapitate. |
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| 17:48.36 | ibmthinkpad | the_weanus: I'm not a mysql fan personally, but I know it can handle a pretty decent load |
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| 17:56.16 | the_weanus | ibmthinkpad: <shrug> that just what I've heard. the openldap docs have other warnings about doing what you've found. |
| 17:57.27 | ibmthinkpad | the_weanus: really? like what? |
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| 17:57.49 | ibmthinkpad | if I need to talk my colleagues out of something stupid they set up I will |
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| 18:00.58 | the_weanus | http://www.openldap.org/doc/admin24/guide.html#LDAP vs RDBMS |
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| 18:01.11 | kwelle | (where) do (unofficial) netinstall-isos for debian-unstable exist? |
| 18:01.22 | kwelle | just asking... i don't need it :D |
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| 18:02.38 | ibmthinkpad | kwelle: there are weekly builds |
| 18:02.48 | jelly-home | kwelle: no |
| 18:03.14 | kwelle | contradiction? |
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| 18:04.31 | ibmthinkpad | if you don't want to download one of them, install stable, then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && init 6, then sed -i 's/wheezy/sid/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install dpkg apt && apt-get dist-upgrade && init 6 |
| 18:04.35 | ibmthinkpad | then you'll be on sid |
| 18:05.21 | CBIT-Simon-Boliv | Alguien me puede ayudar a instalar una impresora láser Xerox en canaima? :) |
| 18:05.29 | kwelle | well, i'm doing it like this: install debian stable. modify sources.list. update, upgrade. |
| 18:05.43 | kwelle | !en |
| 18:05.43 | dpkg | The language of #debian is English. We will do our best to help you regardless of your level of English but you might be more comfortable asking for help in your own language. Ask me about your language code for more information, for example /msg dpkg br ; /msg dpkg pt ; /msg dpkg es ; /msg dpkg fr ; /msg dpkg de |
| 18:05.46 | zykotick9 | ibmthinkpad: that's pretty ugly. and i think you'd need a dist-upgrade in there. |
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| 18:05.58 | CBIT-Simon-Boliv | Hola! :-[ |
| 18:06.05 | ibmthinkpad | zykotick9: if you read the whole thing, there is a dist-upgrade in there |
| 18:06.12 | kwelle | !espagnol |
| 18:06.17 | kwelle | !spanish |
| 18:06.17 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 18:06.20 | zykotick9 | ibmthinkpad: oh sorry, missed that. |
| 18:06.21 | kwelle | :D |
| 18:06.45 | jelly-home | kwelle: ibmthinkpad is mistaking weekly _installer_ builds for installers for unstable, those do not default to installing unstable. |
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| 18:06.57 | ibmthinkpad | you're installing stable, bringing it up to date, changing all instances of wheezy in your sources to sid, updating the apt-cache, upgrading apt and dpkg so they don't accidentally break everything, and then upgrading everything else |
| 18:07.20 | jelly-home | kwelle: also, if you want to check what the bot knows about, /msg dpkg stuff |
| 18:07.27 | ibmthinkpad | jelly-home: I haven't recently, but 5 years ago I installed sid that way |
| 18:07.32 | kwelle | ibmthinkpad: well, what happens if i don't update/upgrade stable at first? |
| 18:07.37 | ibmthinkpad | jelly-home: with a weekly build |
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| 18:07.42 | kwelle | jelly-home: ah okay :) |
| 18:07.46 | ibmthinkpad | kwelle: most likely nothing |
| 18:07.48 | jelly-home | ibmthinkpad: a weekly build of the installer. |
| 18:07.55 | ibmthinkpad | kwelle: but it's a safer approach |
| 18:08.12 | ibmthinkpad | jelly-home: there are weekly netinstalls that do not default to stable |
| 18:08.17 | kwelle | hm, i'm already updating/upgrading to unstable at the moment :/ |
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| 18:08.22 | ibmthinkpad | they are in a separate section |
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| 18:08.32 | Plizzo | Hello! |
| 18:08.39 | kwelle | Hello Plizzo :) |
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| 18:09.38 | jelly-home | ibmthinkpad: I don't think they default to sid, either |
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| 18:10.03 | Plizzo | I'm running RetroPie on a Raspberry Pi, and I've got an 64GB external SSD hooked up to it via USB. I've got my disk mounted on boot, and when there are no files on it my system mounts perfectly fine. But as soon as I start putting games on it (maybe 3GB) the pi takes forever to boot and becomes unresponsive. Any ideas why? The drive is formatted in EXT3, but I've tried EXT4 also |
| 18:10.30 | jelly-home | Plizzo: "RetroPie" doesn't sound like "Debian" really |
| 18:10.43 | Plizzo | It's based on Debian Wheezy.. |
| 18:10.54 | Plizzo | It is Debian Wheeze with some apps installed |
| 18:10.58 | Plizzo | Wheezy |
| 18:11.04 | jelly-home | Plizzo: sorry, this channel is for debian proper, not the derivatives |
| 18:11.35 | Plizzo | jelly-home: But it's a regular Debian disto with emulators installed. The core has not been touched.. |
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| 18:11.49 | jelly-home | try /msg alis list *retropi* to see if there's a channel about it |
| 18:11.56 | Plizzo | jelly-home: How does that not qualify as proper |
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| 18:12.06 | jelly-home | !based on debian |
| 18:12.07 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 18:13.28 | jelly-home | Plizzo: you can fall back to ##linux, sorry |
| 18:13.35 | Plizzo | Thanks |
| 18:13.49 | moof2 | whats /run? |
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| 18:15.37 | jelly-home | Plizzo: oh, they often block unregistered users. /msg nickserv help register |
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| 18:29.16 | asturel | anyone knows what pulls snd_hda_intel module? |
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| 18:29.29 | asturel | since it isnt in /etc/modules |
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| 18:30.38 | mumpitze1 | asturel: mostly by default since you have the appropriate pci id |
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| 18:31.07 | asturel | is there a way to disable it? |
| 18:31.10 | asturel | it cause segfault.. |
| 18:31.24 | asturel | http://78.24.185.30/dmesg.txt |
| 18:31.36 | asturel | (bottom) |
| 18:32.01 | asturel | [ 6.500361] BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at ffff88023233e0d8 |
| 18:32.01 | asturel | [ 6.500462] IP: [<ffffffffa0251a16>] generic_hdmi_init+0xb1/0x10b [snd_hda_codec_hdmi] |
| 18:32.02 | asturel | .. |
| 18:32.20 | asturel | even if i blacklist the module it loads someshow |
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| 18:37.56 | mumpitze1 | asturel: you need to remove it from your initramfs too. /msg dpkg blacklist |
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| 18:38.25 | asturel | in grub config there isnt insmod if u mean for that |
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| 18:39.03 | mumpitze1 | no I don't. have you read the factoid? |
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| 18:40.16 | aricg | what directory should I keep backups on a backup server? /home/user/backups? /var/backups/? /var/tmp/backups/? |
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| 18:40.51 | aricg | also, where should I keep local backups while I gzip them to prepare them to go to the backup machine? |
| 18:40.54 | jelly-home | /srv/backups ? |
| 18:41.15 | jelly-home | (on the server) |
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| 18:41.32 | aricg | the wikipedia entry is not to clear. on /srv/ -> Site-specific data which are served by the system. |
| 18:41.43 | aricg | to /too |
| 18:41.49 | aricg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard |
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| 18:45.38 | aricg | this page is claiming /var/backups/ http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html |
| 18:47.52 | jelly-home | I don't think you want to mix local backups with a service the backup server is providing for other nodes |
| 18:50.32 | aricg | oh, sorry, it was two questions, where do the backups go on the backup server, and on the dbserver (for example) where do I keep the local data dump |
| 18:50.32 | jelly-home | aricg: there's some stuff in /var/backups already |
| 18:50.54 | aricg | oh, so there is. |
| 18:51.16 | aricg | I just want it to be in the most expected place possible. |
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| 18:53.22 | aricg | I think /var/backups/service_name/ for local, and /var/backups/machine_fqdn/ on the backup server is good for me |
| 18:53.46 | aricg | erm ... /var/backups/machine_fqdn/service_name/ |
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| 19:07.44 | midacts | is this a correct URL to perform a netinstall for debian wheezy? http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ |
| 19:08.04 | midacts | i am trying to install debian as a domu on a xen box and it keeps thrwoing a error message |
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| 19:08.39 | midacts | ''the location must be the root directory of an install tree' |
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| 19:13.31 | abrotman | midacts: doesn't seem that way ... |
| 19:13.38 | abrotman | !tell midacts about netinst |
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| 19:15.12 | midacts | im trying to install it on xen, and netinstall is my only option : / |
| 19:15.25 | midacts | it tells me that the location must be the root directory of the install tree |
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| 19:21.22 | midacts | ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 19:21.27 | midacts | not even that worked for netinstall |
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| 19:31.22 | nullby7e | how can i upgrade to sid |
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| 19:32.54 | mumpitze1 | why'd you want to? |
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| 19:36.54 | nullby7e | how to upgrade to sid? |
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| 19:38.43 | ghostbar | nullby7e: change /etc/apt/sources.list from stable/testing to sid, then aptitude safe-upgrade && aptitude full-upgrade |
| 19:39.32 | nullby7e | ghostbar: in which version packages are latest sid? or experminetal |
| 19:39.53 | ghostbar | nullby7e: check that on packages.qa.debian.org/packagename |
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| 19:41.20 | nullby7e | ghostbar: what i need to change from sources.list deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free, only this? |
| 19:41.40 | ghostbar | nullby7e: the squeeze part |
| 19:41.49 | ghostbar | nullby7e: but I suggest you first upgrade to testing |
| 19:41.55 | ghostbar | then to sid |
| 19:42.20 | nullby7e | sid main non-free? |
| 19:42.26 | nullby7e | and contrib? |
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| 19:46.00 | witheld | Um, are there some kernel args I have to used to get the installer to go into advanced mode? With the hardware I'm dealing with I can't get a selection screen, it has to boot straight into the kernel |
| 19:46.07 | witheld | The installer that is |
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| 19:51.12 | _abc_ | how can I quickly find out what package a file installed on the system belongs to? I used to know?! dpkg* ... ? |
| 19:51.28 | mumpitze1 | dpkg -S |
| 19:51.28 | dpkg | mumpitze1: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 19:51.44 | _abc_ | mumpitze1: that lists the files which match the pattern, does not return a package name here |
| 19:52.11 | _abc_ | AH it lists the package name 1st... thanks |
| 19:52.13 | _abc_ | I missed that |
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| 19:54.37 | Jeudi | Could someone suggest a Debian-based distro optimised for booting from USB flash drives? |
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| 19:55.23 | jordanm | what needs to be optimized for that? |
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| 19:55.59 | jordanm | Jeudi, the recommendation in #debian will always be debian |
| 19:56.23 | luist | what is the "Obj" and "Ign" on each line of apt-get update? |
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| 19:56.55 | ghostbar | Ign is ignored. It means there's nothing to updated |
| 19:57.24 | luist | thanks |
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| 19:58.47 | nullby7e | does sid haves security and volitate updates? |
| 19:58.55 | nullby7e | volatile |
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| 20:03.01 | mumpitze1 | nullby7e: no |
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| 20:04.11 | ghostbar | nullby7e: being on sid means having volatile updates constantly. xD |
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| 20:23.35 | nullby7e | configure: error: Package requirements (gobject-2.0 >= 2.34.0 gio-2.0) were not met: |
| 20:23.40 | nullby7e | Requested 'gobject-2.0 >= 2.34.0' but version of GObject is 2.32.5 |
| 20:23.42 | nullby7e | what means that? |
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| 20:25.34 | mumpitze1 | it means it wants 2.34 and you only have 2.32 |
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| 20:25.57 | nullby7e | aha |
| 20:26.20 | nullby7e | mumpitze1: which pkg uses gobject |
| 20:26.25 | nullby7e | python-gobject? |
| 20:26.30 | mumpitze1 | nullby7e: you run sid, you figure it out |
| 20:28.00 | nullby7e | mumpitze1: yes it reuqires it but i have latest |
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| 20:30.50 | witheld | nullby7e: sid breaks, you have to wait it out |
| 20:30.55 | witheld | Or go compile the stuff yourself |
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| 20:31.37 | ompaul | nullby7e: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and let us know |
| 20:31.51 | ompaul | ,v gobject |
| 20:31.53 | judd | No package named 'gobject' was found in i386. |
| 20:32.10 | ompaul | ,v gobject-2 |
| 20:32.11 | judd | No package named 'gobject-2' was found in i386. |
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| 20:32.23 | lasers | echo hi |
| 20:32.44 | ompaul | echo cancellation works |
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| 20:32.56 | ompaul | ,v gobject-2.0 |
| 20:32.56 | judd | No package named 'gobject-2.0' was found in i386. |
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| 20:33.10 | ompaul | ,v gio |
| 20:33.11 | judd | No package named 'gio' was found in i386. |
| 20:33.30 | ompaul | ,v python-gobject |
| 20:33.30 | judd | Package: python-gobject on i386 -- squeeze: 2.21.4+is.2.21.3-1; wheezy: 3.2.2-2; jessie: 3.8.2-1; sid: 3.8.2-1 |
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| 20:34.17 | nullby7e | ompaul: i have run this before and tells me you don't have actual version? |
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| 20:34.36 | ompaul | nullby7e: and do it every six hours until it is fixed |
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| 20:34.47 | ompaul | nullby7e: mirrors up date |
| 20:34.52 | ompaul | nullby7e: mirrors update |
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| 20:36.24 | CaneToad | I just went to install debian 7 from the amd64-gnome live DVD...problem is that it breaks installing grub due to chrooting to the target installation directory and then trying to run grub-probe, which doesn't exist. Are live DVD 7 installs just plain broken? Any ideas? |
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| 20:41.14 | _u2pop_ | hello all |
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| 20:41.56 | _u2pop_ | i want to know something i can to download all the cd-#numbers? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 20:42.11 | _u2pop_ | sorry i mean if i have to download* |
| 20:42.20 | nullby7e | how to downgrade? |
| 20:42.21 | _u2pop_ | or just one cd iso ? |
| 20:42.36 | mtn | _u2pop_: just get the netinstall |
| 20:43.11 | mtn | _u2pop_: or the first cd, if you like that better |
| 20:43.13 | _u2pop_ | is for livecd i want |
| 20:43.19 | _u2pop_ | k |
| 20:43.35 | _u2pop_ | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.0.0-i386-netinst.iso |
| 20:43.36 | CaneToad | _u2pop_: you sure you want the i386 32 bit version? |
| 20:43.42 | _u2pop_ | yes |
| 20:43.46 | ompaul | CaneToad: get the netinstall if you want to install if you read this http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ it doesn't suggest using it for installing |
| 20:43.49 | _u2pop_ | my laptop is 32bit |
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| 20:44.48 | CaneToad | _u2pop_: are you asking for a tool that can be used to download all the cds? |
| 20:45.26 | _u2pop_ | nono i am saying what iso i have to download for livecd because they show me CD-1 2 3 4 , 8 |
| 20:46.01 | _u2pop_ | like have by part |
| 20:46.06 | _u2pop_ | or is a complete iso |
| 20:46.09 | _u2pop_ | each cd |
| 20:46.29 | ompaul | for those who want to install get the netinstall and work away - you don't need more unless you don't have an internet connection |
| 20:46.50 | ompaul | do it while your computer is attached by wire to the internet |
| 20:47.00 | ompaul | anything else is hard work |
| 20:47.37 | _u2pop_ | i want for livecd that all |
| 20:47.46 | _u2pop_ | without internet |
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| 20:48.36 | CaneToad | _u2pop_: try http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ |
| 20:48.44 | nullby7e | does testing/unstable/experimental haves violate and security update? |
| 20:48.57 | ompaul | no |
| 20:49.06 | ompaul | and don't mix them |
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| 20:50.09 | CaneToad | _u2pop_: but I've found I could not install from the livecd because grub scripts are broken |
| 20:50.28 | axelFoley | is there a possibilty to install gnome-shell 3.8? i tried jhbuild, but it hangs |
| 20:50.47 | _u2pop_ | CaneToad is just i dont want to install it on my computer yet |
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| 20:50.52 | CaneToad | _u2pop_: the link I gave has the livecd in one part |
| 20:50.56 | _u2pop_ | i want to run in with virtualbox |
| 20:50.59 | _u2pop_ | or livecd |
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| 20:53.22 | nullby7e | i am using /etc/apt/preferences for downgrade but i can't |
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| 20:59.55 | mtn | nully: debian doesn't support downgrading |
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| 21:00.10 | mtn | nully: sorry, meant for someone else |
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| 21:07.26 | wp | hi, im trying to --purge for mysql-server* but it doesnt purge a single file, what am i doing wrong? :) |
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| 21:07.59 | wp | just trying a reinstall of mysql-server |
| 21:08.01 | ompaul | wp: perhaps the full command line |
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| 21:08.11 | ompaul | it might be interesting to see what you were doing |
| 21:08.12 | master_j | i never had luck with * in apt-get |
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| 21:08.17 | wp | apt-get remove --purge mysql-server* |
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| 21:08.37 | wp | without the * i really gets messy :) |
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| 21:08.59 | wp | i just want a clean install of mysql-server and start over |
| 21:09.00 | ompaul | wp: and what is the command line - I assume you have stopped it |
| 21:09.14 | wp | yeah i stopped it |
| 21:09.49 | ompaul | wp: so not what is the command line, but what is the returned data when you put that command there - paste.debian.net if it is more than two lines please |
| 21:09.56 | wp | sure, sec |
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| 21:10.28 | nyuszika7h | I think I broke something, libcups2 refuses to remove/reinstall, please help! https://dpaste.de/pfYME/ |
| 21:10.37 | wp | ompaul: http://pastebin.com/Kd9yLsgD |
| 21:11.12 | ompaul | wp: that's an advertising bin debian doesn't it also has captchas I'll look at it in a sec |
| 21:11.42 | master_j | why not just manually remove the config files? |
| 21:11.57 | ompaul | wp: now you can rm -rf your old data |
| 21:12.08 | wp | but why doesnt --purge remove it? |
| 21:12.15 | master_j | they're changed, i think, that's why |
| 21:12.18 | master_j | not sure |
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| 21:12.37 | ompaul | wp: there is no but - it doesn't because it is not the file that was installed it is altered by some config |
| 21:13.17 | wp | ok, and the mysql databases itself? i need to remove those manually as well ? |
| 21:13.18 | master_j | odd - why would you worry about removing the config if it's default :p |
| 21:13.31 | wp | master_j: thats the thing :) |
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| 21:17.55 | wp | ompaul: well, removed all db's and some files. its now back at default :) |
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| 21:18.10 | wp | im used to --purge and just go :) |
| 21:20.43 | moof2 | I think I just found out why a system would try to get dracut... in squeeze at least, the backport 3.2 kernel doesn't like initramfs-tools, and then tries to install dracut instead |
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| 21:25.30 | primeras | hi all. Sorry my English isn't very well. I have a problem. I want to "creating hard link to directory" |
| 21:25.32 | primeras | How I do |
| 21:25.37 | primeras | sudo ln a b |
| 21:25.38 | primeras | ln: `a': hard link not allowed for directory |
| 21:25.39 | primeras | not working :/ |
| 21:26.37 | Konomi | primeras: ln -s |
| 21:26.45 | ghostbar | primeras: it's not allowed for directories, you have to use a symlink |
| 21:27.15 | primeras | ghostbar: -d parameter, what does it do? |
| 21:27.16 | primeras | ln -d |
| 21:27.31 | primeras | -d, -F, --directory |
| 21:27.32 | primeras | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:28.55 | ghostbar | primeras: attempt and superuser are the key words there |
| 21:29.12 | primeras | ghostbar: sudo ln -d a b |
| 21:29.12 | primeras | ln: failed to create hard link `b' => `a': Operation not permitted |
| 21:29.13 | wp | heh |
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| 21:35.53 | primeras | thanks |
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| 21:49.58 | mekeor | for TIME=20120306 and BRANCH=experimental, "deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/TIME/ BRANCH main" contains dolphin 4:4.7.4-2. how can i find out for which TIME it contains the same dolphin version with BRANCH=testing? |
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| 21:52.00 | mekeor | or is this a stupid question? |
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| 21:52.37 | mekeor | i mean, should i just use experimental? |
| 21:53.05 | mekeor | am i even using snapshot.debian correctly? i don't have a clue... :O |
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| 21:54.00 | moof2 | experimental contains packages whose install and removal script might be broken or missing, or pretty much anything |
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| 21:54.42 | mekeor | moof2: ok. what's the answer to my original question? Oo |
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| 21:55.01 | mekeor | s/what/so, what/ |
| 21:55.21 | moof2 | I have no idea what the question says. state it in english rather than code |
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| 21:55.54 | mekeor | okay, so i wrote "deb http://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian/20120306/ stable main" in my sources.list. |
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| 21:56.26 | moof2 | stable is meant to get which version? |
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| 21:56.30 | mekeor | when i "apt-get update" and then i do "apt-cache show dolphin", i see that only version 4.4 or so of dolphin is available. |
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| 21:56.59 | moof2 | you should name the dist rather than use the "floating" symlink names (like stable, testing) |
| 21:57.03 | mekeor | so it turned out that http://snapshot.debian.org/package/kde-baseapps/4%3A4.7.4-2/#dolphin_4:3a:4.7.4-2 shows me the time when the package is in experimental |
| 21:57.15 | mekeor | moof2: hm |
| 21:57.45 | mekeor | moof2: so what should i write? lenny? wheezy? squeeze? .. |
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| 21:58.02 | moof2 | which one are you meaning to get? |
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| 21:58.18 | moof2 | did you get that link from some kind of query? |
| 21:58.20 | mekeor | i just want dolphin 4:4.7.4-2 |
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| 21:59.00 | mekeor | moof2: http://snapshot.debian.org/binary/dolphin/ – yes. |
| 21:59.07 | mekeor | yes, you can search on http://snapshot.debian.org/ for binary packages |
| 21:59.30 | moof2 | if it's recent, it could be in archive.d.o |
| 21:59.33 | mekeor | i just want the latest version *before kde-4.8*. |
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| 21:59.49 | mekeor | moof2: what does that mean (for me)? |
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| 22:00.14 | moof2 | first let's see... |
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| 22:00.21 | moof2 | , versions dolphin |
| 22:00.22 | judd | Package: dolphin on i386 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-2; jessie: 4:4.8.4-2; sid: 4:4.8.4-2; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-2; experimental: 4:4.10.2-1 |
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| 22:00.42 | moof2 | any of those look good? what are you running? |
| 22:00.53 | mekeor | i don't run dolphin atm :P |
| 22:01.03 | mekeor | i actually just want a version before 4.8 ;) :) |
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| 22:01.23 | moof2 | looks like it's the one in squeeze |
| 22:01.34 | mekeor | yeah, i prolly could use that one |
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| 22:01.55 | moof2 | what are you running? what version of debian? |
| 22:02.07 | mekeor | uh, debian unstable/sid |
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| 22:02.34 | moof2 | you may need to compile it |
| 22:02.52 | mekeor | hmm |
| 22:03.01 | mekeor | (that's my sources.list atm: http://hpaste.org/89042 ) |
| 22:03.05 | mekeor | moof2: why? |
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| 22:03.22 | mekeor | moof2: will i get it working? please :( |
| 22:03.42 | moof2 | sid libs may or may not support it |
| 22:03.52 | mekeor | i see |
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| 22:04.02 | mekeor | moof2: what if they do not support it? |
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| 22:04.25 | mekeor | so what am i going to do? i don't understand? |
| 22:04.34 | moof2 | then you will have to compile it so it's linked against the libs you have installed |
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| 22:04.44 | scshunt | ^/win 30 |
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| 22:05.14 | moof2 | you would get the debianized sources from squeeze, and then build the package and install it |
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| 22:05.30 | moof2 | assuming the libs are not compatible |
| 22:05.46 | mekeor | which is highly likely, i guess(?) |
| 22:06.03 | moof2 | I'd say it's likely, yeah |
| 22:06.10 | mekeor | i have to build a package? :O |
| 22:06.21 | moof2 | maybe |
| 22:06.53 | mekeor | but... i don't know (yet) how to build a package.... but on the other hand, it wouldn't be bad to learn it. |
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| 22:07.07 | moof2 | it's very easy |
| 22:07.23 | moof2 | once you have build-essential installed |
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| 22:07.54 | mekeor | i do, i think. anyways... |
| 22:07.58 | moof2 | one thing, it may or may not work, pretty good chance it will |
| 22:08.28 | mekeor | so. how do i begin? how do i try the simple way? |
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| 22:08.36 | mekeor | just download the *.deb or what? |
| 22:08.59 | moof2 | no, the .deb is a compiled one, you want the source package |
| 22:09.11 | moof2 | you'll need deb-src lines for squeeze |
| 22:09.33 | mekeor | ah |
| 22:10.03 | mekeor | "deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main", right? |
| 22:10.05 | moof2 | then you would cd into a dir you can write that's enough space, and then apt-get source dolphin |
| 22:10.21 | moof2 | that should probably work |
| 22:10.28 | mekeor | ah |
| 22:10.30 | mekeor | okay |
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| 22:11.01 | mekeor | sudo apt-get source dolphin=4:4.4.5-2, right? |
| 22:11.08 | mekeor | (after apt-get update) |
| 22:11.24 | moof2 | you could try that |
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| 22:12.04 | moof2 | if you specify the version you run the risk of the command failing due to not found |
| 22:13.13 | mekeor | after adding "deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main" and "apt-get update", "apt-cache show dolphin" does not show version 4.4.5 (or similar) but still just version 4.8. |
| 22:13.55 | jordanm | mekeor, apt-cache showsrc |
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| 22:13.59 | moof2 | those are the records for what's current I guess |
| 22:14.00 | mekeor | ah |
| 22:14.11 | mekeor | jordanm: thanks :) |
| 22:14.21 | mekeor | works :) |
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| 22:15.13 | mekeor | uhm |
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| 22:15.46 | mekeor | "apt-get source dolphin=4:4.4.5-2" does not work, same with dolphin-4.4.5 and etc |
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| 22:16.18 | mekeor | how do i specify the version? |
| 22:16.19 | moof2 | why doesnh't it work? |
| 22:16.39 | mekeor | apt can't find it |
| 22:16.41 | moof2 | you may not have to. |
| 22:16.55 | moof2 | have you tried apt-get source dolphin? |
| 22:17.07 | mekeor | yep |
| 22:17.17 | mekeor | it gets the sources for 4.8 |
| 22:17.27 | mekeor | i could just comment the deb-src line for unstable out. |
| 22:17.34 | moof2 | so then you need to comment out the sid source line |
| 22:17.35 | mekeor | i'm gonna do that now |
| 22:17.37 | mekeor | yep |
| 22:17.59 | moof2 | it probably is deciding to get you the latest |
| 22:18.08 | acu | hey guys are there any tools to check for wire integrity (shorts, open pairs, wiremap etc ?) |
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| 22:18.47 | mekeor | moof2: it still does not work. apt chooses "kde-baseapps" instead of "dolphin". and then it can't find "kde-baseapps". |
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| 22:19.40 | jordanm | mekeor, try kde-baseapps with the version |
| 22:19.50 | jordanm | maybe it drops the version when it "follows" |
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| 22:20.00 | jordanm | that's the actual source package |
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| 22:20.15 | mekeor | jordanm: so, kde-baseapps=4:4.4.5-2 ? |
| 22:20.28 | moof2 | and you can use a web browser to browse the mirror and then get the three files |
| 22:20.45 | moof2 | you may or may not have to resort to that |
| 22:20.48 | jordanm | mekeor, yes |
| 22:21.14 | jordanm | moof2, with dget, you only need to tell it to fetch the .dsc |
| 22:21.26 | mekeor | jordanm: apt still can't find it. |
| 22:21.43 | mekeor | jordanm: so it would be easier to do it with dget? |
| 22:21.56 | jordanm | mekeor, apt-get -t squeeze source kdebase |
| 22:22.03 | jordanm | try that |
| 22:22.19 | jordanm | looks like it's kdebase in squeeze |
| 22:22.52 | mekeor | jordanm: can i make apt print errors in english such that i can show them you? |
| 22:23.00 | moof2 | is that the source package that builds dolphin? |
| 22:23.08 | jordanm | mekeor, LC_ALL=C |
| 22:23.18 | jordanm | looks like it |
| 22:23.41 | mekeor | E: The value 'squeeze' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
| 22:23.57 | mekeor | that's the error the last command you recommended gives |
| 22:24.34 | mekeor | and yes, i *did* "apt-get update". |
| 22:24.52 | jordanm | mekeor, dget http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/k/kdebase/kdebase_4.4.5-2.dsc |
| 22:24.59 | moof2 | I was just getting ready to ask :) |
| 22:25.43 | moof2 | does dget need a deb-src? |
| 22:25.48 | mekeor | jordanm: where can i get dget? |
| 22:26.05 | mekeor | bbl |
| 22:26.19 | jordanm | ,file bin/dget |
| 22:26.29 | judd | Search for bin/dget in wheezy/i386: devscripts: usr/bin/dget |
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| 22:27.40 | mekeor | re |
| 22:28.20 | mekeor | wow, devscripts has many (perl) dependencies |
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| 22:30.09 | moof2 | probably because some are written in perl, and some of those need modules that have been packaged separately |
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| 22:34.37 | mekeor | okay guys, dget succeeded :) |
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| 22:34.46 | mekeor | moof2: next step? :) :D |
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| 22:36.12 | mekeor | http://hpaste.org/raw/89043 – the downloaded things |
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| 22:37.43 | msn | whenever I try to make a call to a phone number libphone attaches my voip carrier's domain and coverts the phone number into a sip address, what configuration option am i missing |
| 22:38.13 | FurryHead | I need help, I installed to a ext2 usb, and mid-install of an apt package I got mad spam of my usb having been mounted read-only, now my system doesn't boot quite right - it gets mounted RO on boot ... how can I fix? |
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| 22:38.20 | FurryHead | Debian wheezy * sorry |
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| 22:39.11 | msn | FurryHead: run fsck? and try to fix the fs |
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| 22:40.40 | FurryHead | Puppylinux to the rescue... smh |
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| 22:43.39 | mekeor | moof2: so what do i have to do with this stuff? |
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| 22:44.29 | mekeor | moof2: should i try to compile it? i thought that was plan b? |
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| 22:52.43 | [TheFlash] | hi, i upgraded from squeeze to wheezy and now there's no sound. i'm almost sure it's a bug in the kernel. is there any way to install the 2.6 kernel in wheezy? |
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| 22:53.26 | mekeor | [TheFlash]: why do you think it's because of the kernel? |
| 22:53.45 | [TheFlash] | mekeor: alsa works fine, the module is loaded, the output is not muted, ... |
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| 22:54.09 | FurryHead | Opened puppylinux, ran fsck on the partition, "/dev/sdc1: clean" |
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| 22:55.41 | FurryHead | So, the part is clean, what now? |
| 22:56.15 | mekeor | [TheFlash]: did you reboot? :D |
| 22:56.18 | searching | echo 1 >> '/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches' :D |
| 22:56.25 | [TheFlash] | mekeor: many times, yes |
| 22:56.49 | [TheFlash] | mekeor: aplay reports no error, but there is no sound |
| 22:57.03 | FurryHead | Still boots immediately to a logon "(none): login:" with mounted as ro |
| 22:57.41 | searching | [TheFlash]: alsa driver ? |
| 22:58.02 | [TheFlash] | searching: snd_hda_intel loaded |
| 22:58.14 | searching | aptitude install alsa |
| 22:58.18 | searching | ;) |
| 22:58.22 | [TheFlash] | searching: alsa is installed |
| 22:58.25 | searching | hmm |
| 22:58.29 | searching | lsmod | grep alsa |
| 22:58.29 | searching | ? |
| 22:58.32 | jhutchins_wk | FurryHead: Sorry, not clear on your problem, the USB drive boots read-only? |
| 22:58.37 | [TheFlash] | searching: aplay -l lists my output device |
| 22:58.56 | mekeor | [TheFlash]: dmesg | grep something # ? |
| 22:59.10 | jhutchins_wk | [TheFlash]: You've gone through the alsa checklist? |
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| 22:59.41 | [TheFlash] | jhutchins_wk: i think so |
| 22:59.43 | searching | [TheFlash]: alsactl reload ? |
| 22:59.48 | [TheFlash] | searching: tried it |
| 22:59.58 | searching | dmesg and coppy |
| 23:00.00 | searching | ? |
| 23:00.07 | [TheFlash] | dmesg shows snd_hda_intel is loaded |
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| 23:00.25 | searching | btw : player use ? audacious amarok ? |
| 23:00.38 | FurryHead | jhutchins_wk: sorry for not being clear. Debian wheezy on a usb drive, I was apt-get installing lxde and it MASS spammed the usb drive was suddenly read-only - it was stuck, so I forced reboot (power button) and now, on reboot, the usb drive (root drive) is mounted ro with no networking, hostname, seems like the system didn't init fully |
| 23:00.42 | [TheFlash] | searching: vlc, but i tried aplay too |
| 23:00.57 | FurryHead | Fsck comes out clean |
| 23:01.01 | searching | [TheFlash]: drivers loading in configure menu ? |
| 23:01.15 | [TheFlash] | searching: what configure menu? |
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| 23:01.55 | [TheFlash] | searching: for VLC, i tried every output device, no errors but no sound either |
| 23:02.27 | searching | please go to the settings -> audio -> output device -> alsa |
| 23:02.31 | searching | ... |
| 23:02.36 | [TheFlash] | searching: i tried it |
| 23:02.50 | [TheFlash] | searching: and every one of the output devices... |
| 23:03.05 | magyar | hi, is there a way to verify checksum of all the os files installed on a wheezy server? |
| 23:03.17 | [TheFlash] | also i checked alsamixer - nothing muted |
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| 23:04.20 | [TheFlash] | is there any way to load the old 2.6 kernel? |
| 23:04.32 | searching | kernel ? |
| 23:04.35 | searching | 2.6.? |
| 23:04.43 | FurryHead | Any ideas? I spent several hours getting the right drivers on this computer.... I don't want to reinstall |
| 23:04.50 | [TheFlash] | searching: the one from squeeze |
| 23:05.14 | searching | [TheFlash]: looked private chat :) |
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| 23:07.54 | FurryHead | jhutchins_wk: any other info I need to provide? |
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| 23:14.00 | Dev0n | hey, is it possible to have a eth and wlan interface with the same address but with priority so that if eth is active the wlan is diabled and wlan is enabled only if eth is inactive? |
| 23:14.04 | Dev0n | an |
| 23:14.05 | Dev0n | * |
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| 23:19.22 | [TheFlash] | i installed linux-image-2.6.32-5 from squeeze into wheezy and sound works! |
| 23:19.40 | [TheFlash] | so it is a kernel problem 100% |
| 23:19.52 | [TheFlash] | when i boot 3.2.0-4 sound does not work |
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| 23:27.46 | mekeor | :O |
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| 23:28.49 | [TheFlash] | mekeor: i know i'm not supposed to install squeeze packages in wheezy, but i just did this to see if it would work |
| 23:29.23 | [TheFlash] | mekeor: and sound does indeed work in kernel 2.6.32-5 |
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| 23:37.08 | mekeor | [TheFlash]: how do you install squeeze packages in wheezy/jessie? |
| 23:37.47 | [TheFlash] | mekeor: i added squeeze to /etc/apt/sources.list, then apt-get update, then install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686-pae |
| 23:37.58 | [TheFlash] | i know, it's not a good idea |
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| 23:38.06 | [TheFlash] | and lots of stuff didn't work, but sound worked! |
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| 23:41.13 | relipse | How do I run a webserver on a VirtualBox VM so that it has the same local ip address each time so that I know what ip my webserver is on? |
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| 23:44.31 | KdgDev | relipse: you don't |
| 23:44.37 | KdgDev | oh wait |
| 23:44.45 | relipse | I have a debian linode, but the php mail() function is not sending to @yahoo.com addresses. What is the proper way to set up the mail server and such. |
| 23:44.48 | KdgDev | i read "same local ip" and thought you meant same as your computer |
| 23:45.06 | relipse | well i have a laptop so ip addresses seem to change a llot |
| 23:45.09 | relipse | on the local netwokr |
| 23:45.11 | KdgDev | relipse: just set an ethernet interface to static, I guess |
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| 23:45.49 | KdgDev | Here's a guide I followed: https://jtreminio.com/2012/07/setting-up-a-debian-vm-step-by-step/ |
| 23:45.53 | KdgDev | It's really good |
| 23:46.08 | KdgDev | there's 1 comment on it which explains a problem you might have with the host-only adapter |
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| 23:49.18 | relipse | KdgDev: ok thanks i havent tried that option yet |
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| 23:50.29 | Jeudi | Does the version of forked-daapd available for wheezy work with itunes 11? |
| 23:52.35 | relipse | what is the ipconfig command to get your local ip address? |
| 23:53.46 | digdilem | ifconfig |
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| 23:54.12 | LtL | relipse: ifconfig or `ip a` |
| 23:54.52 | relipse | this worked: /sbin/ifconfig |
| 23:55.24 | digdilem | I know, that's why I said it... |
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