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| 05:45.05 | wwu | hello |
| 05:45.14 | wwu | it seems that codeblock is on testing |
| 05:45.22 | wwu | but it failed to start |
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| 11:00.47 | GaryH | IPv6 addresses are hex instead of decimal. |
| 11:00.48 | damo22 | although if i could call my own computer dead:beef:sdfdfsdfsdf |
| 11:00.55 | GaryH | In decimal, they're really easy to read. |
| 11:00.57 | GaryH | Just long as heck. |
| 11:01.35 | damo22 | i know |
| 11:01.53 | GaryH | SDF1? |
| 11:01.59 | damo22 | but at least a private addressed one i can name it whatever i want |
| 11:02.01 | GaryH | Probably too old of a reference. |
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| 15:06.03 | petn-randall | koisoke: I'd think it's safe to report a bug. You config shouldn't get deleted upon upgrade. |
| 15:06.45 | petn-randall | uosiu: I don't have enough experience with PAM to answer that, sorry. |
| 15:07.22 | CalimeroTeknik | is there some package that includes autotools, m4, libtool at least? |
| 15:07.25 | koisoke | petn-randall: thanks. but how does it get purged when the transitional dovecot-common has no postrm? |
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| 15:09.02 | CalimeroTeknik | build-essential doesn't include these |
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| 15:10.00 | mtn | CalimeroTeknik: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages can help you find packages and the files in them |
| 15:10.02 | CalimeroTeknik | would there be a bigger metapackage that adds autoconf, automake, m4, libtool etc? |
| 15:10.18 | CalimeroTeknik | build-essential is a metapackage, isn't it? |
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| 15:10.59 | petn-randall | koisoke: dpkg keep track of all files a package has, including "conffiles". |
| 15:11.25 | CalimeroTeknik | it's not files I'm looking for, mtn |
| 15:11.36 | petn-randall | koisoke: 'apt-get remove' throws away all files except those conffiles, 'apt-get purge' includes them in the deletion process. |
| 15:12.01 | mtn | CalimeroTeknik: packages as well at that site, of course |
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| 15:13.00 | hunab_ku | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:13.30 | CalimeroTeknik | mtn, that doesn't say which metapackage could include autotools, m4, libtool (at least) |
| 15:13.48 | CalimeroTeknik | a kind of a larger build-essential group |
| 15:14.17 | themill | CalimeroTeknik: I doubt there is one. No larger metapackage will keep people happy -- just install the things you need |
| 15:14.18 | petn-randall | hunab_ku: You might want to change your password now. |
| 15:14.35 | hunab_ku | :) |
| 15:14.51 | themill | CalimeroTeknik: although you'll actually note that autoconf depends on all those things you list... |
| 15:14.51 | hunab_ku | tnks for you advice |
| 15:15.10 | petn-randall | <3 hunab_ku for not using a password found in a dictionary. |
| 15:15.14 | CalimeroTeknik | even libtool isn't considered as a build essential? |
| 15:15.32 | CalimeroTeknik | ah, that's a clever idea |
| 15:16.16 | petn-randall | CalimeroTeknik: You can find packages which depend on X with 'apt-cache rdepends X' |
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| 15:16.52 | koisoke | petn-randall: thanks. |
| 15:16.57 | moggleman | Hi, if I edit my ctrontab with crontab -e, then the contents of those scripts get exceuted as my user correct? |
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| 15:18.06 | petn-randall | koisoke: You're welcome! Have a nice day. |
| 15:18.54 | CalimeroTeknik | moggleman, that's it, as the user you ran crontab -e as |
| 15:19.31 | moggleman | CalimeroTeknik: fantastic. thanks. |
| 15:19.33 | CalimeroTeknik | who else? |
| 15:19.44 | CalimeroTeknik | I mean if it were root, you couldn't edit it as user |
| 15:19.49 | moggleman | God, I don't know. Maybe it gets su'd to "nobofy" for some reason? |
| 15:20.01 | CalimeroTeknik | or else you'd be able to schedule a root exploit |
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| 15:20.30 | moggleman | I'm trying to set up a bunch of automated programs on a debian box, all of which are weird and proprietary and have permissions issues. |
| 15:21.45 | moggleman | I've gotten paranoid. It's nice that the stuff actually included with debian is sane. |
| 15:22.03 | CalimeroTeknik | 白川沙って綺麗名前だね |
| 15:22.15 | CalimeroTeknik | you're right to not run them at root anyway. |
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| 15:22.57 | moggleman | Some of them need to be run in fakeroot? |
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| 15:23.13 | CalimeroTeknik | regardless, even if it's free software, run as separate users |
| 15:23.17 | moggleman | Which is really sad. |
| 15:23.31 | CalimeroTeknik | ha, so they want to be root? |
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| 15:23.51 | herptothederp | Dear braintrust: For over a year now a file named out.txt has appeared in my home directory. I delete it, and it eventually reappears. I have grep -Rli out.txt just about everything, and can find nothing that mentions it. What might I use to determine what process creates this file? |
| 15:23.53 | moggleman | Yeah. It's like, awful proprietary research code. |
| 15:24.06 | moggleman | That needs to be run regularly to process data coming off some instruments. |
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| 15:28.39 | jhutchins_wk | moggleman: On the otherhand, if you edit /etc/crontab as root you can set the user each job gets run as. |
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| 15:37.07 | wjtaylor | nevermind... |
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| 15:54.48 | wjtaylor | is dmesg the command to check if there were errors on bootup? |
| 15:54.58 | wjtaylor | or do I need to check syslog |
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| 15:56.39 | Walex | wjtaylor: both, and many others... |
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| 15:57.09 | Walex | wjtaylor: 'dmesg' is kernel stuff. Service dæmons have their own logs usually |
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| 15:59.17 | wjtaylor | Walex: I just upgraded to wheezy. The first boot I notification in gnome popped up that something failed, but disappeared to quickly. I haven't seen it since. Should I let sleeping dogs lie, or should review some logs? |
| 15:59.27 | wjtaylor | I'm not ever sure what I'm looking for |
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| 16:03.49 | jhutchins_wk | wjtaylor: dmesg is kernel messages, you'll see hardware detection and such there. |
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| 16:04.37 | jhutchins_wk | wjtaylor: syslog comes up later in the boot process. You can enable a boot log, but I've never seen a way to capture the messages on the console during boot. |
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| 16:05.31 | jhutchins_wk | wjtaylor: Once the GUI comes up you have syslog and Xorg.0.log because everything's gui, and graphical apps are notoriously bad about logging anything. |
| 16:05.56 | wjtaylor | Are there any known issues with the vbox additions for 7? |
| 16:06.09 | wjtaylor | I just upgraded and the mouse integration doesn't work |
| 16:06.34 | wjtaylor | I installed from the device menu, not from the repos |
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| 16:08.56 | nkuttler | wtatsuru: seems to work fine for my windows installs |
| 16:08.56 | Walex | wjtaylor: that's another thing entirely |
| 16:09.48 | Walex | wjtaylor: to look at stuff that happend on desktop environment startup, look at '~/.xsession-errors' |
| 16:09.54 | wjtaylor | I wasn't sure if a boot failure casued the vbox driver to not load... |
| 16:10.18 | Walex | wjtaylor: vbox is convenient but its kernel driver is infamous for being very hacky. |
| 16:10.30 | mumpitze1 | jhutchins_wk: read your xsession-errors. tons of info from gnome in there. gnome apps all have verbal diarhhea like this |
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| 16:10.57 | Walex | wjtaylor: Qemu/KVM is far more recommended on GNU/Linux and IIRC it can start from vbox-compatible disk images |
| 16:12.03 | jhutchins_wk | mumpitze1: It is the abundance of errors in gnome code that, among other complaints, make me avoid it like the plague. |
| 16:12.48 | jhutchins_wk | !errata |
| 16:12.49 | dpkg | Last minute notes regarding Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" are listed at http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/errata . Known problems in the installer are listed at http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/debian-installer/#errata |
| 16:12.51 | mumpitze1 | Walex: can kvm run on CPUs sans VT-x? |
| 16:13.10 | mumpitze1 | ie can I run a windows 7 inside a VM with it just like VBox? |
| 16:13.18 | Walex | mumpitze1: no, but Qemu can. And it has its own sw accelerator |
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| 16:13.27 | Walex | mumpitze1: it can run Windows 7 or anything else |
| 16:13.49 | mumpitze1 | so only qemu alone can, to use kvm you need VT-x? |
| 16:14.07 | wjtaylor | ah! It couldn't find the headers |
| 16:14.24 | wjtaylor | I thought deb installed them by default |
| 16:15.26 | Walex | mumpitze1: yes, IIRC. Qemu is the user-level VM emulator, and KVM is the kernel level driver that accelerates it. |
| 16:15.57 | wcwrel | how do i enable ssh for root and user 'jim' ? |
| 16:16.04 | Walex | mumpitze1: there is a nice set of comparisons here: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ#General_KVM_information |
| 16:16.22 | hays | Local login from root seems to be disabled on my debian box. where can I change that |
| 16:16.32 | mumpitze1 | hays: /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 16:16.38 | hays | _local_ |
| 16:16.45 | Walex | hays: probably in some PAM setting |
| 16:16.54 | mumpitze1 | hays: set a password for root |
| 16:16.58 | Walex | hays: there is a Debian frontend to setup PAM, but I can't remember the name right now. |
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| 16:17.04 | jhutchins_wk | hays: That is not a standard Debian configuration. |
| 16:17.12 | jhutchins_wk | hays: Un-change whatever you changed. |
| 16:17.13 | mumpitze1 | jhutchins_wk: it is. |
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| 16:17.21 | hays | jhutchins_wk: trying to |
| 16:17.24 | mumpitze1 | it asks you when you install debian |
| 16:17.24 | jhutchins_wk | mumpitze1: No, it's not, not on Debian. |
| 16:17.28 | Walex | hays: 'grep root /etc/pam.d/*' might help |
| 16:17.30 | rysiu | Hi |
| 16:17.37 | mumpitze1 | jhutchins_wk: it has been sinec squeeze at least |
| 16:17.53 | rysiu | It's possible use to swap 2 partitions in raid0 ? |
| 16:17.57 | rysiu | It's good way? |
| 16:18.04 | wjtaylor | paste.debain.net/10404/ |
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| 16:18.18 | mumpitze1 | hays: have you set a password for root? |
| 16:18.25 | Walex | rysiu: that's automatic. You don't need to use RAIDO for swap. |
| 16:18.35 | wjtaylor | Why wouldn't it be able to find my headers, synaptic shows they are installed |
| 16:18.49 | Walex | rysiu: the Linux swap code distributes swapping in parallel to all swap block devices |
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| 16:19.00 | jelly-home | rysiu: consider that ANY of the two members dying would result in a kernel panic. |
| 16:19.03 | mtn | hays: how are you trying to log into root? |
| 16:19.08 | wcwrel | How do i allow ssh login into 'root' user? |
| 16:19.21 | Walex | rysiu: however note that apart from that in general the swap code has a terrible design, and swapping pages in Linux is terribly bad |
| 16:19.26 | wjtaylor | The 2.6.32 headers are installed. Do I need the 3.2? |
| 16:19.32 | jelly-home | rysiu: if you want to prolong uptime, put swap on raid1 instead |
| 16:19.34 | mumpitze1 | wcwrel: /etc/ssh/sshd_config it's a bad idea to enable that |
| 16:19.50 | mumpitze1 | wjtaylor: you need the headers for wahtever kernel you run right now |
| 16:19.50 | hays | mtn: locally (via lish) |
| 16:19.58 | rysiu | Walex: When I created 2 swap partitions (sda3 and sdb3) I have to swapon and nothing to do? System will use automatically both swap partitions? |
| 16:19.58 | hays | mumpitze1: yes |
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| 16:20.17 | Walex | rysiu: yes. |
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| 16:21.17 | wjtaylor | mumpitzel: So deb doesn't install the current headers by default? |
| 16:21.19 | rysiu | Walex: hmm I was thinking that 2 partitions maked about /dev/md3 (SWAP) RAID0 will be faster than normall swap partition |
| 16:21.29 | wcwrel | mumpitze1, my file is empty |
| 16:21.51 | mumpitze1 | wcwrel: then there is no ssh server installed |
| 16:21.56 | wjtaylor | Why would I have 2.6 headers installed? residual from squeeze? |
| 16:22.07 | wcwrel | mumpitze1, I tried apt-get install ssh |
| 16:22.15 | mumpitze1 | wcwrel: dpkg -l |grep ssh |
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| 16:23.27 | wcwrel | mumpitze1, I got 6 or 7 lines |
| 16:23.32 | rysiu | Walex: I must create two partitions SWAP in sda and sdb if I want to build RAID1? |
| 16:24.01 | mumpitze1 | !tell wcwrel about paste |
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| 16:24.29 | wcwrel | mumpitze1, how do i paste from my deb machine? |
| 16:24.35 | wcwrel | can i paste with wget or something |
| 16:24.49 | wcwrel | how do i forward command line output to pastie or something |
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| 16:25.05 | wcwrel | its in a vmware with no cut and paste ability inside terminal |
| 16:25.24 | mumpitze1 | !tell wcwrel about pastebinit |
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| 16:26.40 | wcwrel | mumpitze1, http://paste.debian.net/10406 |
| 16:26.58 | mumpitze1 | then you have a sshd_config |
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| 16:27.56 | mumpitze1 | and in there is a "PermitRootLogin no |
| 16:28.07 | wcwrel | but my sshd_config is only 3 lines: http://paste.debian.net/10407/ |
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| 16:28.58 | Walex | ryan-c: yes. |
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| 16:29.36 | Walex | wcwrel: it can also be forbidden in the PAM config |
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| 16:29.42 | mumpitze1 | wcwrel: then you created this yourself |
| 16:29.52 | wcwrel | mumpitze1, yeah i did create it myself, how do i get the correct file |
| 16:29.56 | Walex | wcwrel: also note that you need to 'Allowusers root jim' |
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| 16:30.20 | mumpitze1 | wcwrel: do a "grep -r Permit *" in /etc/ssh/ |
| 16:30.42 | Walex | wcwrel: well, Debian has a default file in '/etc/ssh/sshd_config'. Note that is by default the place where 'sshd_config' must be. |
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| 16:32.04 | wcwrel | mumpitze1, http://paste.debian.net/10408 |
| 16:32.25 | jose | How can i have my package to show messages like, "The program 'xxx' is currently not installed...." |
| 16:32.43 | wjtaylor | what's the difference between common and common-rt headers? |
| 16:32.53 | wcwrel | Walex: so what do I do? |
| 16:33.19 | mumpitze1 | wcwrel: did you create this file before installing the ssh server? |
| 16:33.28 | wcwrel | mumpitze1, yes |
| 16:33.44 | wcwrel | do i need to delete and reinstall? |
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| 16:34.37 | Walex | wcwrel: it depends what your current state is. |
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| 16:34.44 | mumpitze1 | !tell wcwrel about confmiss |
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| 16:35.44 | Walex | wcwrel: in the particular case of 'sshd_config' the default one is also at '/usr/share/doc/openssh-client/examples/sshd_config' |
| 16:36.13 | mumpitze1 | Walex: why is it part of the client? |
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| 16:36.47 | Walex | mumpitze1: packaging mishap? |
| 16:36.58 | mumpitze1 | doubt it |
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| 16:38.02 | Walex | wcwrel: mumpitze1: also here: '/usr/share/doc/openssh-server/examples/sshd_config' |
| 16:38.05 | wcwrel | ok i copied Walex, now how do i restart service? |
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| 16:38.25 | mumpitze1 | wcwrel: this one I'm missing for some reason.... |
| 16:38.28 | wcwrel | btw, mumpitze1 i did what dpkg told me and the file stayed the same that I had it |
| 16:38.31 | Walex | wcwrel: 'invoke-rc.d ssh restart' |
| 16:38.36 | wcwrel | was I supposed to delete it firs? |
| 16:38.44 | mumpitze1 | wcwrel: it asked |
| 16:39.06 | wcwrel | hmm it works now |
| 16:39.12 | wcwrel | how do i allow user 'jim' but not user 'root' |
| 16:39.13 | Walex | wcwrel: 'ls -ld /etc/ssh/sshd_*' will probably show one with a suffix of '.dpkg*' |
| 16:39.21 | wcwrel | thanks guys btw |
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| 16:42.10 | jhutchins_wk | hays: From https://www.linode.com/wiki/index.php/Lish_Documentation "Before logging in for the first time, you must either set a Lish password or add your ssh public key" |
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| 16:42.36 | hays | jhutchins_wk: yes I had done all that |
| 16:43.09 | hays | i think i am narrowing down on something with /etc/securetty or /etc/pam.d/login |
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| 16:43.28 | jhutchins_wk | hays: It may also be configured to not allow root or to require a key for root. |
| 16:43.54 | WilliamDotSI | can i define what HDD will be 0 and what hdds will be 1 in a mdadm raid10 setup? |
| 16:44.35 | WilliamDotSI | i have some slower and faster SSDs and should mix them 1f+1s=0 and 1f+1s=1 to combine the RAID10 for maximum performance in my thinking |
| 16:44.39 | WilliamDotSI | (and maximum stability) |
| 16:44.45 | jhutchins_wk | hays: This is probably something linode specific, and you should ask them about it. |
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| 16:45.25 | hays | jhutchins_wk: perhaps. I think I might have changed something a year ago when I first was 'hardening' this system that i shouldn't have |
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| 16:46.50 | jhutchins_wk | hays: Can you log in as a regular user? |
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| 16:54.01 | hays | I think I found the problem |
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| 16:55.12 | din | so i've installed jessie on a sparc ultra45 workstation and i cannot get the resolution to go beyone 1024x768. i've tried quite a number of things to get it to 1280x1024. anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 16:55.44 | adnauseam | evening, trying to setup zotero on debian - but some files are under somewhere else - for example, where would i find apache's httpd.conf under debian ? |
| 16:58.12 | mullein | adnauseam: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf |
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| 16:59.35 | jelly-home | din: what's your monitor's native resolution? Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log please. |
| 17:00.30 | adnauseam | mullein: rgr, means that i need to create it. hopefully this will work |
| 17:00.34 | jelly-home | din: also, output of "xrandr -q" |
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| 17:00.46 | Glorf | hello |
| 17:00.47 | mullein | adnauseam: you may need to install an apache2 package first, that should bring in httpd.conf |
| 17:01.19 | mullein | look at the apache2-mpm-* packages |
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| 17:01.44 | Glorf | i'm trying to install steam on debian, but i need the package jockey-common, and ican't find anywhere ;.. (not even found by the packages search) |
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| 17:04.29 | din | jelly-home: native resolution 1280x1024@60. http://pastebin.com/bnJzQZPc |
| 17:04.51 | din | jelly-home: xrandr -q yields min and max of 1024x768. |
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| 17:05.11 | mumpitze1 | Glorf: jockey is the (shitty? I guess it's ubuntu only so it is) way ubuntu configures videocards. use equivs. not really needed imho |
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| 17:05.44 | din | jelly-home: i have decided that it hates me. :) |
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| 17:06.02 | Glorf | mumpitze1 : thanks, will look for that |
| 17:06.14 | mumpitze1 | !tell Glorf about equivs |
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| 17:12.16 | antoineB | hello, i would like to store some data on memory using the filesystem, which directory could i use? |
| 17:12.29 | antoineB | tmp is stored in memory? |
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| 17:14.12 | mumpitze1 | antoineB: "mount" anything tmpfs is in memory |
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| 17:15.19 | rejak | hello guys, greetings from arch |
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| 17:16.14 | antoineB | mumpitze1: ok thanks |
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| 17:16.18 | redscare | 'sup arch |
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| 17:23.24 | anomaly | I have allowscp and allowrsync listed in /etc/rssh.conf, however when I try to log in as a user with /etc/passwd listing them as shell /usr/bin/rssh, however when I try to scp a file from machine1 to machine2 I get a 'Permission Denied' error. |
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| 17:24.46 | Jermakovi | Goog evening :) |
| 17:26.12 | qman__ | anomaly, the user still needs permission to the source and destination files |
| 17:27.32 | anomaly | qman__, it is a valid user. with /home/user. what am I missing? :) |
| 17:27.52 | qman__ | file permissions |
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| 17:28.41 | anomaly | a big vague.. sorry. chmod /home/user or some such? |
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| 17:28.55 | qman__ | depends on what file you're trying to copy |
| 17:29.00 | qman__ | and where you're trying to copy it |
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| 17:31.14 | jelly-home | din: the usual procedure involves looking at the logs, first to see if the correct driver gets used, second, if the best driver is used, to see if it can read DDC (resolutions) info from the monitor |
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| 17:31.22 | anomaly | qman__, user needs rsync access only. I was led to believe rssh is proper for that. to be able to sync their data from a folder they own on one computer to a directory on machine2 |
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| 17:33.24 | jelly-home | din: lines 115+ suggest it's using the unaccelerated fbdev driver. This is not too good, and means you're stuck with whatever resolution the kernel framebuffer support initialized at boot time. |
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| 17:33.56 | qman__ | anomaly, the user still needs read access to the source files and write access to the destination; permission denied isn't a logon error, it's an error trying to copy the files |
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| 17:34.39 | qman__ | or possibly trying to run scp, but that's less likely |
| 17:34.54 | din | jelly-home: well it is an old sparc machine. |
| 17:34.54 | jelly-home | din: there is often a way to define a kernel boot parameter for those fb modules to choose or pick a resolution. I haven't run Linux on sparc in a LONG time, and Creator 3D sounds awfully old to be honest. |
| 17:35.19 | jelly-home | din: get a slightly less old sparc with an ATI mach64 chip ;-) |
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| 17:35.28 | din | jelly-home: this machine is circa 2006. i've tried changing prom parameters etc... |
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| 17:36.17 | jelly-home | din: investigate dmesg and lsmod, see which kerne fb driver is used. Then look at "modinfo modulename" to see if it takes any options. |
| 17:36.46 | jelly-home | !sparc |
| 17:36.47 | dpkg | SPARC is the CPU architecture used in Sun's proprietary hardware. Non-embedded systems usually run Solaris. For more information about SPARC, see http://www.sparc.org/ and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARC . To install Debian, ask me about <install guide> and see http://wiki.debian.org/PortsSparc ; the <sparc32> port has been retired. For help with Debian on SPARC, join #debian-sparc on irc.oftc.net. |
| 17:37.25 | jelly-home | din: it's theoretically possible someone on irc://irc.oftc.net/#debian-sparc has the same hw and more clues |
| 17:37.51 | jelly-home | keeps his ultras locked and rotting in the garage |
| 17:38.22 | din | jelly-home: ty! |
| 17:38.38 | jelly-home | woohoo a whole TEN people in that channel |
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| 17:39.37 | jelly-home | din: 2006? I thought that new would have a PCI-based gpu |
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| 17:40.03 | din | jelly-home: maybe it's 2007, can't recall atm. |
| 17:40.17 | jelly-home | din: care to pastebin "lspci -nn" and say "tail -1000 /var/log/kern.log" as well |
| 17:41.07 | jelly-home | judd: pciid 3d3d:0032 |
| 17:41.08 | judd | [3d3d:0032] is 'Wildcat Realizm 500' from '3DLabs' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=3d3d:0032 |
| 17:41.18 | jelly-home | er, what |
| 17:41.53 | jelly-home | oh, that's actually the right card |
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| 17:42.10 | b|fh | I'm using under vmware esxi |
| 17:42.16 | din | that's right. |
| 17:42.24 | b|fh | *debian |
| 17:42.30 | jelly-home | Help text |
| 17:42.30 | jelly-home | This is the framebuffer device for the Sun XVR-2500 and similar graphics cards based upon the 3DLABS Wildcat chipset. The driver only works on sparc64 systems where the system firmware has mostly initialized the card already. It is treated as a completely dumb framebuffer device. |
| 17:42.41 | jelly-home | din: ^^ not too hopeful |
| 17:42.46 | b|fh | I connect a gsm modem to the serial port |
| 17:43.10 | b|fh | I need to know if the modem is being recognized |
| 17:43.15 | din | jelly-home: yeah. hence why i was trying to set boot prom parameters to extend the display. |
| 17:43.19 | b|fh | what's the best way to do that |
| 17:43.26 | din | jelly-home: but even that refuses to work as expected. |
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| 17:44.38 | jelly-home | b|fh: dunno, if you've configured the guest vm correctly, you could try to run minicom and let it use the correct /dev/ttyS* device |
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| 17:45.14 | anomaly | qman__, my mistake.. user error. I forgot to restart ssh which gave said user access in the first place. thank you for the assistance. |
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| 17:45.29 | b|fh | jelly-home how do I know that minicom is recongnizing the device |
| 17:45.59 | jelly-home | b|fh: you press enter, it shows an OK? |
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| 17:46.13 | jelly-home | b|fh: you type in an AT command, it works? |
| 17:46.17 | b|fh | no.. |
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| 17:50.16 | b|fh | jelly: I write AT |
| 17:50.23 | b|fh | and nothing happens..so... |
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| 17:50.35 | b|fh | I think the modem is not behing recognized |
| 17:50.47 | jelly-home | b|fh: are you sure you connected to the right /dev/ttyS0 ttyS1 whatever? |
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| 17:51.40 | enigmuriatic | is there any easy way to install GHC 7.6 on wheezy? i don't understand why older versions of Debian have a newer version of GHC |
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| 17:52.56 | b|fh | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.02 | b|fh | Press CTRL-A Z for help on special keys |
| 17:53.08 | b|fh | AT |
| 17:53.13 | b|fh | and nothing happens |
| 17:53.19 | b|fh | same with ttyS0 |
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| 17:53.30 | paxcoder | anyone using cinnamon? |
| 17:53.43 | jelly-home | b|fh: hm, that's an indication it might not work, then |
| 17:54.03 | redscare | I have a very close friend who is, on mint 15. I have some cursory experience with configuring it |
| 17:54.05 | jelly-home | b|fh: a vmware channel could be more helpful |
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| 17:56.45 | teclo- | Hi there I'm running iceweasel 10.0.12esr-1 on Debian 7.0, but youtube.com tells me it "cannot support HTML5" ... any idea ? |
| 17:57.38 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions iceweasel |
| 17:57.39 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 10.0.12esr-1; jessie: 10.0.12esr-1+nmu1; wheezy-security: 17.0.6esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 17.0.6esr-1; experimental: 21.0-1 |
| 17:58.48 | jhutchins_wk | I wonder if there's a way to query what mozilla.debian.net has.. |
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| 18:00.21 | Vicissitude | if you go to the site, you can choose using their form |
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| 18:01.46 | teclo- | Vicissitude: yeah but on youtube.com I choose "HTML5 trial" then it says my browser doesn't support HTML5 |
| 18:01.47 | jhutchins_wk | teclo-: http://html5test.com/index.html |
| 18:02.21 | jhutchins_wk | teclo-: iceweasel 20 is available for squeeze, probably wheezy as well. |
| 18:02.40 | Vicissitude | I have 21 here on wheezy |
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| 18:03.35 | jhutchins_wk | teclo-: Note that a bigger version number by itself won't fix the problem, especially if youtube's test is braindead. |
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| 18:05.18 | jhutchins_wk | Vicissitude: I just neeed to update. |
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| 18:06.19 | Vicissitude | ah, okay then |
| 18:06.33 | teclo- | jhutchins_wk: thank you, just tried html5test, seems my iceweasel does support HTML5 |
| 18:06.45 | teclo- | jhutchins_wk: so basically... youtube's test sucks ? |
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| 18:15.41 | teclo- | konqueror won't play any youtube content without the flash plugin |
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| 18:16.36 | LinuxEnthusiast | use chrome |
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| 18:17.44 | teclo- | LinuxEnthusiast: that's an idea. What's the package name in Debian 7.0 ? |
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| 18:18.17 | LinuxEnthusiast | i downloaded the original from google as a deb paket |
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| 18:19.55 | hypnocat | when i type "aptitude search foo", the description of the results is truncated according to the number of columns i have on my screen |
| 18:20.02 | hypnocat | how can i see the full description of a given package? |
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| 18:20.53 | LinuxEnthusiast | as a paket in synaptic i suggest chromium |
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| 18:22.57 | LtL | hypnocat: re-direct output to a file then open file |
| 18:22.59 | gotoinkernel | Hello, just a quick question, what are standard directories in /home after debian has been installed |
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| 18:23.15 | LtL | hypnocat: or change resolution |
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| 18:24.02 | hypnocat | thank you |
| 18:24.11 | LtL | hypnocat: sure |
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| 18:24.44 | hypnocat | actually, that didn't work |
| 18:24.55 | hypnocat | it's still getting cut off even when redirected to a file |
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| 18:25.16 | hypnocat | and changing resolution is not an option for me |
| 18:25.18 | LtL | hypnocat: it should aptitude show package > afile |
| 18:25.21 | mumpitze1 | gotoinkernel: the user you created at install. nothing else |
| 18:25.23 | hypnocat | ah |
| 18:25.47 | hypnocat | thanks, that worked |
| 18:26.15 | hypnocat | (it was "aptitude search foo > bar" that didn't work) |
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| 18:27.11 | gotoinkernel | Hello, just a quick question, what are |
| 18:27.13 | gotoinkernel | sorry |
| 18:27.21 | gotoinkernel | mumpitze1: thank you |
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| 18:30.54 | wjtaylor | what package do I need for wheezy headers? |
| 18:31.04 | abrotman | vague |
| 18:31.22 | wjtaylor | how do I install the headers to wheezy? |
| 18:31.30 | wjtaylor | stock wheezy? |
| 18:31.38 | abrotman | which headers? |
| 18:31.46 | abrotman | there are hundreds of headers packages |
| 18:31.52 | wjtaylor | The linux headers |
| 18:32.03 | wjtaylor | ok. I didn't realize what you were getting at |
| 18:32.04 | abrotman | .... |
| 18:32.09 | abrotman | kernel? |
| 18:32.12 | abrotman | libc6? |
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| 18:32.22 | abrotman | libncurses5-dev? |
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| 18:33.27 | wjtaylor | I'll start over. VBox guest additions failed to install in wheezy because it couldn't find the headers. |
| 18:33.42 | wjtaylor | I think they are the kernel headers but not sure... |
| 18:33.45 | jacklk | Why do people use Debian on their desktops? |
| 18:34.02 | LinuxEnthusiast | why not ? |
| 18:34.03 | wjtaylor | because it works and is free |
| 18:34.06 | wjtaylor | as in beer |
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| 18:34.16 | jacklk | but Windows 7 can do more |
| 18:34.23 | LinuxEnthusiast | lol |
| 18:34.24 | wjtaylor | $$$ |
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| 18:34.40 | teclo- | jacklk: you'be got to be kidding |
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| 18:34.57 | mumpitze1 | wjtaylor: dpkg -l |grep header |
| 18:35.01 | jacklk | just use a cracked product key |
| 18:35.11 | mumpitze1 | wjtaylor: and the output of uname -a too |
| 18:35.25 | jacklk | you can then play games, be able to use your hardware properly |
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| 18:36.15 | wjtaylor | computing technology is one of the most powerful technologies man has. Without FOSS corporations would own every machine out there via software licenses. Poeple don't realize how critical FOSS is. |
| 18:36.34 | ksuhku | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.49 | wjtaylor | Microsoft (personal editions) are nothing more than marketing platforms. |
| 18:36.54 | Kolibry | agreed |
| 18:36.58 | Kolibry | ^_^ |
| 18:37.12 | wjtaylor | Hense the difference between business edition and the shit they push on the consumer |
| 18:37.51 | jacklk | Debian graphics support is generally bad |
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| 18:38.00 | wjtaylor | FOSS is even benificial to capitalism, even though it doesn't appear so to some. |
| 18:38.00 | ksuhku | jacklk, your mom is really bad |
| 18:38.04 | wjtaylor | </rant> |
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| 18:38.17 | jacklk | Windows 7 can make use of it properly, because vendors support the OS |
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| 18:38.46 | jacklk | Other than being a programmer, why would you use Debian? |
| 18:38.48 | mumpitze1 | jacklk, ksuhku, wjtaylor: stop this OT and behave like adults. if you can |
| 18:38.55 | teclo- | jacklk: why not ? |
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| 18:39.17 | jacklk | afaik only geeks use Linux |
| 18:39.20 | LinuxEnthusiast | troll detected |
| 18:39.26 | teraflop | !kick jacklk |
| 18:39.26 | dpkg | kicks jacklk in the ass. |
| 18:39.29 | jacklk | no |
| 18:39.32 | mumpitze1 | jacklk: do you have a debian related support question? |
| 18:39.35 | jacklk | sorry if I offended :) |
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| 18:39.43 | jacklk | mumpitze1: no |
| 18:39.47 | wjtaylor | http://paste.debian.net/10428/ |
| 18:39.49 | mumpitze1 | then please be quiet |
| 18:39.50 | teclo- | jacklk: why use W*ndows, slow, incompatible, full of bugs and backdoors, full of technology stolen elsewere, and sold by M*crosoft, a company which violates laws in many countries ? |
| 18:39.56 | mumpitze1 | teclo-: STOP! |
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| 18:40.04 | wjtaylor | mumpitzel: ^ |
| 18:40.09 | teclo- | mumpitze1: ah sorry, but he started it |
| 18:40.15 | Kolibry | i know some friends who are just everything except geeks and use linux for ethical purposes |
| 18:40.18 | Kolibry | :) |
| 18:40.19 | mumpitze1 | wjtaylor: install your kernel headers |
| 18:40.24 | mumpitze1 | Kolibry: you too... |
| 18:40.48 | jacklk | teclo-: only PC people care if it breaks the law in other countries |
| 18:40.51 | wjtaylor | mumpitzel: what is OT?? |
| 18:40.56 | mumpitze1 | off topic |
| 18:41.05 | teclo- | jacklk: and only hostages use W*ndows ... M*crosoft doesn't have users, M*crosoft has hostages |
| 18:41.11 | mumpitze1 | !ops can you please make them stop |
| 18:41.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: mumpitze1 complains about: can you please make them stop |
| 18:41.24 | jacklk | sighs |
| 18:41.45 | jacklk | Did you really have to do that? seriously, grow up and stop crying, this is a Debian channel |
| 18:42.02 | mumpitze1 | yes. a channel in which you advocate copyright infringement |
| 18:42.15 | jacklk | mumpitze1: you are very very PC |
| 18:42.26 | ksuhku | at least he isn't mac |
| 18:42.37 | jacklk | ksuhku: true :) |
| 18:42.44 | Kolibry | what means to be "PC"? |
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| 18:42.52 | jacklk | Kolibry: politically correct |
| 18:42.57 | Kolibry | thanks |
| 18:43.24 | jacklk | basically means law sucker, who freaks out if they do anything which could cause anything against what the government like |
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| 18:44.47 | Kolibry | i think it's more about respect for artist works |
| 18:44.53 | mumpitze1 | !ot |
| 18:44.54 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 18:45.00 | wjtaylor | mumpitzel: I'm confused dpk tells me I have 2.6 kernel headers installed, but I'm running 3.2?? Is that residual from sqeeze? |
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| 18:45.32 | mumpitze1 | wjtaylor: most probably. I told you hours ago to install the headers for the kernel you actually are running |
| 18:45.46 | apes | PC = Program Counter |
| 18:46.23 | mumpitze1 | apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 18:46.30 | wjtaylor | mumpitzel: sorry, I was a bit confused. |
| 18:46.32 | wjtaylor | ah |
| 18:46.47 | wjtaylor | just out of curiosity, what are the common-rt headers |
| 18:46.50 | wjtaylor | ? |
| 18:47.19 | mumpitze1 | "common-rt" does not exist |
| 18:47.45 | abrotman | mumpitze1: hi ? |
| 18:48.43 | mumpitze1 | abrotman: scroll up. discussions about the merits of windows, advocacy for copyright infringement, etc |
| 18:48.53 | mumpitze1 | hopefully died |
| 18:49.05 | abrotman | jacklk: this will be your last warning, and the next ban will be permament |
| 18:49.44 | jacklk | abrotman: What? I haven't said anything for about 7 minutes. |
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| 18:50.01 | abrotman | i can read scroll back, i'm not an idiot |
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| 18:51.37 | abrotman | jacklk: the topic of this channel is Debian support, I suggest you strongly stick to that |
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| 18:59.16 | saram_ | is itpossible toinstall cinelerra (video editingsoftware) on debian 6.0? I don't find it in the "official" sources |
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| 19:00.32 | mumpitze1 | ,v cinelerra |
| 19:00.33 | judd | Package: cinelerra on i386 -- squeeze-multimedia: 4.2-0.1; jessie-multimedia: 4.4-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 4.4-dmo1; wheezy-multimedia: 4.4-dmo1 |
| 19:00.34 | abrotman | saram_: i think it's at deb-multimedia.org .. |
| 19:00.45 | mumpitze1 | saram_: I suggest you upgrade to wheezy anyways |
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| 19:04.42 | chudler | Hiya. I'm looking at the tar.gz files in http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/. |
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| 19:05.14 | chudler | Does anyone know what the diff in firmware-nonfree_0.28+squeeze1.tar.gz and +wheezy, etc? Also firmware-nonfree_0.38.tar.gz doesn't contain all of them? |
| 19:06.46 | chudler | I'm integrating non-free firmware into the ramdisk, but the firmware-nonfree_0.38.tar.gz doesn't contain it. The wheezy one does, however. |
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| 19:14.37 | chudler | GAH, nevermind bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1a.fw is in there. I'm still wondering whats the deal with the files containing the release names if anyone knows. |
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| 19:25.44 | jelly-home | chudler: different versions of drivers require different firmware; also, different cards might use different firmware but the same driver |
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| 19:26.26 | jelly-home | the latest fw pack has to carry all the old versions, in case you need to boot an older kernel |
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| 19:27.44 | chudler | thanks! |
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| 19:33.39 | biax | I'm trying to a setup a new server in UEFI, but it's necessary to boot via iPXE. Because of iPXE EFI limitations, it has to be booted in Legacy mode. Is it possible to boot in legacy mode, and then install the distro to hard disk and (?do necessary UEFI preparations? create fat32 partition?) and then boot up in UEFI instead of legacy? |
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| 19:38.12 | ompaul | biax: when you hit legacy why bother trying UEFI ? |
| 19:38.21 | ompaul | just stay in that mode - it's how I do it |
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| 19:38.42 | ompaul | if I was going to to do GPT that's different I'd just do GPT |
| 19:39.28 | ompaul | imagines in a couple of years it will be gone the way of the dinosaurs |
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| 19:45.15 | frostschutz | biax, are you booting via net regularly - or just for install purposes? uefi/gpt (w/o secureboog) works fine for me, just create a bios_grub partition, grub2 takes care of everything else |
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| 19:46.48 | frostschutz | biax, oh, you already got an answer in one of the other dozen channels you asked in :P |
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| 19:49.26 | dekiss | what is the shortcut for changing keys layout like its alt+shift in windows? |
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| 19:49.50 | msn | !dpkg efi |
| 19:49.51 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" supports installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. See also <errata>. http://www.uefi.org/ |
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| 19:50.28 | mumpitze1 | dekiss: most probably there isn't one. is it needed? |
| 19:51.26 | dekiss | ok I made them alt+shift sry :) |
| 19:51.43 | dekiss | mumixam, yeah it wasn't set up by default I set it up in settings to be alt+shift |
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| 19:51.48 | dekiss | well yeah it was needed a lot |
| 19:52.04 | dekiss | include that in debian default install if you ask me |
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| 20:12.18 | moof2 | I'm not sure what happened; I got through an upgrade to wheezy from squeeze and while the gnome packages seem to be installed, when I log in I don't get the panels or the menu... I tried installing gnome-shell to see what it is and to see if that made gnome "complete", it didn't seem to show up and I still don't know what it is... maybe I should completely remove gnome and install it again, but trying to remove gnome doesn't re |
| 20:12.20 | moof2 | move the rest of it. maybe I should install kde; any other suggestions? |
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| 20:13.25 | superlinux-hp | hi. I am getting frequent disconnections in my wireless network card. and i cannot tell the reason why. what should i do? |
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| 20:14.52 | moof2 | superlinux-hp. wjat have you done so far to find out? |
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| 20:25.14 | DarsVaeda | I tried to add my user to www-data to be able to access /var/www, so I did usermod -G www-data myUser, but after a restart I now get "sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root?" |
| 20:25.19 | DarsVaeda | what am I doing wrong? |
| 20:25.41 | DarsVaeda | I also added myUser to the sudoers |
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| 20:26.56 | stmiller | What are the permissions of /usr/bin/sudo ? ls -l /usr/bin/sudo |
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| 20:27.40 | DarsVaeda | I guess something went pretty wrong again as all folders have "rwxrwxrwx" permissions, that can't be right |
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| 20:28.19 | DarsVaeda | man I hate this -.- |
| 20:28.39 | stmiller | Yeah that's not right. :) |
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| 20:29.12 | DarsVaeda | how can this even happen...I did nothing to set permissions as su |
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| 20:29.44 | DarsVaeda | can it be fixed without reinstalling? |
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| 20:30.52 | stmiller | It would be best to reinstall especially if you are not sure how it got to this state |
| 20:31.04 | DarsVaeda | problem is it will get to this state again |
| 20:31.12 | DarsVaeda | this is the second time it happend |
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| 20:31.35 | moof2 | are your boxes facing the internet directly? |
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| 20:32.02 | stmiller | When installing debian, when it asks for a root password in the install just hit enter and skip that step. Then when you create a regular user in the next step, that user will be setup automatically with sudo. |
| 20:32.07 | moof2 | either way, are other people using your machine? |
| 20:32.14 | DarsVaeda | no not really, and I'm using totally different machines, different location |
| 20:32.34 | moof2 | do you want sudo? |
| 20:32.54 | moof2 | by remote? |
| 20:33.00 | moof2 | sshing in? |
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| 20:33.04 | DarsVaeda | nope |
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| 20:33.28 | moof2 | then you go to where each machine is to use it? |
| 20:33.36 | DarsVaeda | currently all just locally, yes |
| 20:34.12 | moof2 | ok, what physical distance are the machines from each other? |
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| 20:34.32 | DarsVaeda | 30km or such |
| 20:34.45 | DarsVaeda | don't ask what that is in feet ;) |
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| 20:34.48 | moof2 | so you maybe drive or ride a bike |
| 20:35.02 | moof2 | to get from one machine to the other |
| 20:35.15 | DarsVaeda | yeah like 45min why do you ask? |
| 20:35.31 | moof2 | do both machines at one time or another exhibit the symptoms you describe? |
| 20:35.54 | DarsVaeda | yep, which is why I'm sure its my fault |
| 20:36.03 | moof2 | well I wanted to know how remote they are |
| 20:36.15 | moof2 | ok,,, and both debian? |
| 20:36.30 | DarsVaeda | yep, ubuntu and wheezy |
| 20:36.46 | wcwrel | How do I get an SFTP server? |
| 20:36.51 | wcwrel | i thought all you needed was SSH |
| 20:37.10 | moof2 | an sshd is an sftpd, right? |
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| 20:37.22 | moof2 | that's what I thought too |
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| 20:38.20 | teclo- | I'm thinking about buying a Micro-ATX mainboard based on the Pentium 4. How can I find out if the video and audio are supported in Debian ? |
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| 20:39.13 | moof2 | teclo-, you'd first need to know the specific chipsets of each |
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| 20:40.13 | DarsVaeda | ha! I found out how it happend |
| 20:40.40 | moof2 | cool! whad did you find? |
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| 20:41.29 | DarsVaeda | I use an app called "ZendStudio" which is just a modified eclipse and it has an "autoupload" feature to copy files from the workspace (of ZendStudio) to elsewhere locally |
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| 20:41.45 | DarsVaeda | it tried to copy the files to / and succeed |
| 20:41.47 | onryo | Been running Debian for a few years on a very well aligned SSD. Just to be on the safe side I would like to clone this SSD to a new one. I do not want to loose alignment. Whats the best way of doing this? Just a single GPT partition ext4 with BBP (hate EFI) |
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| 20:42.10 | DarsVaeda | I did not start it as root thou |
| 20:42.26 | DarsVaeda | but maybe because the user is in the sudoers? |
| 20:42.31 | jelly-home | DarsVaeda: what does ls -ld / say? |
| 20:42.42 | mumpitze1 | onryo: create a partition with gparded, dd the partition over |
| 20:42.59 | DarsVaeda | jelly-home, drwxrwxrwx 25 root root 4096 Jun 14 22:06 / |
| 20:43.13 | moof2 | and ls -l `which sudo` |
| 20:43.18 | jelly-home | DarsVaeda: / should not be writable for group or other. |
| 20:43.26 | moof2 | so / is writable by anyone |
| 20:43.27 | teclo- | moof2: yeah I know that, but I was thinking... it would be great if I could find if it is supported just by looking at the brand and model, such as, for instance, Asus P45D |
| 20:43.47 | jelly-home | DarsVaeda: and yet yours is. Pastebin the output of "ls -l /", then |
| 20:43.53 | moof2 | teclo-, right, that would be great :) |
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| 20:44.48 | wcwrel | how do i grant user 'jim' access to /var/www/ ? |
| 20:45.36 | moof2 | wcwrel, ls -ld /var/www |
| 20:45.37 | wcwrel | i'm trying to sftp into my server but it is not working it is saying authentication failed |
| 20:45.41 | DarsVaeda | http://paste.debian.net/10455/ "send.php" is that file "ZendStudio" copied |
| 20:45.56 | moof2 | what user are you trying to get in as? |
| 20:46.04 | wcwrel | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Jun 14 15:09 /var/www |
| 20:46.14 | wcwrel | moof2, root |
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| 20:46.45 | wcwrel | moof2, I can't get in as user 'jim' either |
| 20:46.52 | moof2 | maybe sshd is configured to not allow root logins? /etc/ssh/ |
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| 20:47.00 | moof2 | look at the configuration file for sshd |
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| 20:47.40 | moof2 | can you ssh in as either of these users, root and jim? |
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| 20:48.41 | wcwrel | yeah i can ssh, just not sftp |
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| 20:48.57 | wcwrel | how do i restart ssh server |
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| 20:49.14 | moof2 | that's weird... then there's something separate about sshd and sftpd? (does there even exist sftpd?) |
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| 20:50.01 | moof2 | sec |
| 20:50.07 | wcwrel | thats what i'm trying to figure out, i always thought if ssh was working then so would sftp |
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| 20:50.40 | mumpitze1 | if the sftp module is loaded, yes. loaded by default IIRC |
| 20:50.54 | moof2 | right, that's why I think sftpd does not exist, and its functionality is completely in sshd (as scp should work) |
| 20:51.31 | wcwrel | mumpitze1, how do i load the sftp module? |
| 20:51.50 | onryo | mumpitze1 sry got a phone call. Was thinking something along that line. Years back I remember a program called Clonezilla. Was not to shabby with the old HDDs. You know if it is any good with SSDs? |
| 20:52.05 | moof2 | oh there's a module? |
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| 20:52.35 | mumpitze1 | onryo: sure |
| 20:53.08 | mumpitze1 | wcwrel: grep sftp /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 20:53.22 | moof2 | hmm. where are my such modules |
| 20:53.38 | wcwrel | Subsystem sftp /usr/libexec/sftp-server |
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| 20:53.47 | wcwrel | how do i enable this? |
| 20:54.19 | teclo- | Here's an ASUS with Intel 82915G/GV/910GL chipset... is that chipset supported ? |
| 20:54.25 | mumpitze1 | it already is enabled |
| 20:54.30 | mumpitze1 | teclo-: yes |
| 20:54.42 | wcwrel | weird, winscp seems to be working under SCP protocol |
| 20:54.49 | wcwrel | how do i get sftp protocol working |
| 20:54.58 | onryo | mumpitze1 what I am thinking about is the aliment. There is a zillion ways to clone a disk. dd is one way. |
| 20:54.59 | mumpitze1 | you already do |
| 20:55.08 | moof2 | what's the name of the kde term? |
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| 20:55.29 | teclo- | mumpitze1: great ! but, do I have to install proprietary drivers *äfter* installing Debian to get the video chipset to run ? |
| 20:55.29 | mumpitze1 | wcwrel: if winscp works it already works |
| 20:55.36 | mumpitze1 | teclo-: no |
| 20:56.09 | wcwrel | mumpitze1, not with filezilla for some reason |
| 20:56.30 | moof2 | dd has some limitations... you would use it if you want to clone a filesystem in its exact dimension... copying file-by-file is another possibility |
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| 20:56.57 | wcwrel | how do i give user 'jim' permissions to folder /var/www/ |
| 20:57.00 | wcwrel | do i have to chown? |
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| 20:57.42 | onryo | moof2 we are talking 250GB here. I might be half aspie but not that aspie =P |
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| 20:58.00 | onryo | moof2 means file by file :) |
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| 20:58.55 | moof2 | if I don't use aptitude to install things, does that mean no info is kept on what packages were installed depending on what I install directly? |
| 20:59.16 | mumpitze1 | moof2: no |
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| 21:00.09 | moof2 | so what else would cause that info to be kept? (and why does removing "gnome" not cause everything to be removed)? |
| 21:01.03 | teclo- | mumpitze1: so the Intel 82915G/GV/910GL video chipset is supported, great ! |
| 21:02.08 | mumpitze1 | !tell teclo- about i915 |
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| 21:02.38 | onryo | wcwrel years back I wrote this for the drupal guys. Prolly is what you want https://drupal.org/node/882760 |
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| 21:02.51 | hypnocat | how do i change the default resolution that X starts in? |
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| 21:05.40 | epitamizor | the x manpage shows that i think |
| 21:05.57 | moof2 | or maybe the X man page |
| 21:06.10 | zykotick9 | hypnocat: depends... xorg.conf if you use propritary drivers perhaps. I have my .xinitrc call an xrandr script on one of my libre-boxes. |
| 21:06.35 | Bone9 | anyone here who is good with user rights confuration ? |
| 21:06.49 | Bone9 | *configuration |
| 21:06.55 | zykotick9 | Bone9: just ask the real question, and see ;) |
| 21:07.27 | hypnocat | yeah, i used to have to set it up in xorg.conf.. but now a-days there isn't one anymore |
| 21:07.29 | Bone9 | ok,i bought a new server and got root rights,so i set up a Folder in the root dic that is /root/project1 |
| 21:07.40 | hypnocat | so i guess i'll have to make one, or rely on re-setting the resolution via xrandr |
| 21:07.50 | Bone9 | now i want to give a friend the chance to open this folder via SFTP |
| 21:07.55 | moof2 | hypnocat, X will generate one for you |
| 21:07.58 | jelly-home | DarsVaeda: ouch. that app being able to write to / is likely just a consequence of the permissions having already been broken |
| 21:08.05 | Bone9 | but not the complete root folder,only the project1 folder |
| 21:08.08 | zykotick9 | hypnocat: look into xorg.conf.d/ directory... good luck. |
| 21:08.10 | moof2 | based on what it autodetects |
| 21:08.24 | hypnocat | i don't have an xorg.conf.d directory |
| 21:08.38 | hypnocat | or an xorg.conf, for that matter |
| 21:09.02 | moof2 | if you run X -configure |
| 21:09.09 | hypnocat | ah, ok |
| 21:09.13 | moof2 | it will generate one and put it somewhere |
| 21:09.13 | hypnocat | thank you |
| 21:09.27 | zykotick9 | !tell hypnocat about xorg.conf.d |
| 21:09.29 | moof2 | forget where, check man X and look for -configure |
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| 21:09.59 | hypnocat | will do |
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| 21:10.01 | hypnocat | thanks again |
| 21:10.17 | moof2 | welcome. |
| 21:10.45 | Bone9 | so |
| 21:10.57 | Bone9 | anyone can help me with my problem ? |
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| 21:11.58 | moof2 | I'd suggest you factor root out of this situation, move the folder elsewhere and then maybe you'll have a little mroe flexibility |
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| 21:12.14 | onryo | BTW do you still need to align an SSD in Wheezy? |
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| 21:12.42 | moof2 | what is "to align an ssd"? |
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| 21:12.44 | Bone9 | any suggestions where i can put the folder instead ? |
| 21:12.47 | mumpitze1 | onryo: it's done automatically by the partitioning software |
| 21:12.49 | ws2k3 | every time i run apt-get install i see this coming by http://pastebin.com/wYPUYgaT |
| 21:12.56 | moof2 | in someone's home dir? |
| 21:13.30 | moof2 | maybe you'd like to organize that, in /home/you/projects/project1 |
| 21:13.51 | mumpitze1 | ws2k3: why is there a README file in /etc/grub.d/ ? |
| 21:13.53 | Bone9 | okay thanks :) |
| 21:14.29 | moof2 | you might want to stick around... you can ask stuff while you do things, in case you get stuck |
| 21:14.46 | mumpitze1 | ws2k3: what are the permissions of this README file? |
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| 21:16.09 | ws2k3 | mumpitze1 -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 483 Jan 18 2011 README just like everything else |
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| 21:16.52 | onryo | mumpitze1 I tend to use GPT partitions. Wondering if I clone this SSD to a new one if it will fudge that. Always start with a BBP at 1024 and keep at multiples of 1024 just to be on the safe side.... |
| 21:17.19 | moof2 | ws2k3, maybe the web server will refuse to serve it because it's owned by root |
| 21:17.42 | mumpitze1 | ws2k3: that'S the problem. you made it executable |
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| 21:18.11 | moof2 | some web servers are picky about ownerships and permissions |
| 21:19.14 | moof2 | and while that gives you better security, it also makes it harder to find problems |
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| 21:26.00 | msn | i am trying to install debian of efi based hp host. it was running centos earlier perfectly fine, when i finish installing debian and reboot it gives me error "No boot disk" and if i rescue and make a partition active it goes into grub-rescue |
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| 21:30.45 | tharkun | msn: If you installed LVM debian sometimes forgets to leave a partition for booting. If you come from Centos, Centos takes care of that kind of stuff |
| 21:31.58 | msn | i let debian create the efi parition |
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| 21:32.07 | msn | i it exists |
| 21:32.22 | msn | it also created a default /boot |
| 21:32.33 | msn | but somehow it wont boot from lvm |
| 21:33.01 | msn | well error saying disk not found is differnet compared to debian problem |
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| 21:33.58 | moof2 | msn, how many LVs do you have after installing? |
| 21:34.04 | msn | 1 lv |
| 21:34.11 | msn | 3 partions |
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| 21:34.14 | moof2 | to be mounted on /? |
| 21:34.23 | msn | 1. dev/sda1 efiboot |
| 21:34.34 | msn | 2. /dev/sda2 /boot/ |
| 21:34.42 | msn | 3. /dev/sda3 lvm |
| 21:34.49 | msn | and root is inside the lvm |
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| 21:35.19 | zykotick9 | msn: 1) paste.debian.net and 2) ease up on your ENTER key |
| 21:35.20 | moof2 | that sounds workable... and, I don't know anything about how efi influences anything |
| 21:35.21 | msn | everytime hardware vendors implement something like this i wanna go strangle microsoft :/ |
| 21:35.53 | moof2 | and microsoft is very likely doing it to frustrate linux users |
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| 21:36.45 | moof2 | "you're getting sleeepy... windows is eeeeasier... linux will never work..." |
| 21:37.00 | zykotick9 | Bauer1: you should be asking whoever you got that java from... but maybe someone here knows? good luck. |
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| 21:37.39 | msn | and what's up with secure boot, if someone has access to your hardware who cares if the boot is secure, the system is good as gone "secure boot = bow to microsoft" |
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| 21:38.23 | rryoumaa | i asked this last night, but does it make a difference if root is not encrypted if you have an unencrypted boot? |
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| 21:38.34 | zykotick9 | msn: if you can find the secure boot talk from libreplanet this year, i'd highly recommend it. i used to have the same opinion as you... i think i was wrong now. |
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| 21:40.10 | moof2 | rryoumaa, if it is encrypted, you;d have to put its passwd in |
| 21:40.11 | msn | zykotick9: i know debian can boot from uefi, but this bios does not have an option to disable it. I am letting debian insatller do everything on its own, it creates the right partitions, but when it comes to boot it wont go beyond grub/grub-rescue if it manages to get past Disk error |
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| 21:41.06 | zykotick9 | msn: sorry i have no uefi hardware - so no personal experience. but keep in mind, wheezy supports efi and not secure boot... if that helps at all? |
| 21:41.47 | msn | zykotick9: thanks, but that i already know, seems i messed up the bios and enabled secure boot cant figure how to disablt it |
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| 21:44.56 | rryoumaa | moof2: yes, that's the idea :) |
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| 21:47.09 | moof2 | tired of dealing with gnome's brokenness on my machine. how do I blow it all away? I'm headded to kde |
| 21:48.14 | Vicissitude | you'd be better off starting over than trying to unstick all of gnome |
| 21:48.32 | moof2 | you mean full reinstall? |
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| 21:49.13 | msn | does apt-get purge *gnome* work? |
| 21:49.28 | msn | and apt-get autoremove after that |
| 21:49.36 | moof2 | let's try. |
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| 21:50.30 | Vicissitude | moof2, yes, I did mean a full reinstall |
| 21:51.06 | moof2 | ok, I'll consider that when I get to last-resorts |
| 21:51.58 | moof2 | anyway, msn, so apt-get purge is expecting a regex, so we'd have to make it .*gnome.* |
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| 21:54.01 | Bone9 | Hey, i have another question :) i created a user with adduser user1 -home project1 how i can reach the folder project 1 via the root ssh ? |
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| 21:54.56 | aguitel | is something wrong with turpial ? |
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| 21:56.45 | moof2 | I think -home wants a full path... I suggest you remove the user, add it again and don't specify a home dir (which will make the home dir /home/username) and then login or su to that user and put the project folder there, possibly using an organization of folders |
| 21:57.19 | Bone9 | nobody ? |
| 21:58.22 | moof2 | what's the task package name that installs gnome? |
| 21:58.47 | canar | gnome? |
| 21:58.49 | canar | gnome-core? |
| 21:58.55 | dsockwell | gnome-desktop? |
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| 21:59.50 | msn | moof2: *gnome* is a regex |
| 21:59.53 | msn | everything gnome |
| 21:59.58 | Bone9 | excuse me i search the folder i created with "adduser user1 -home project1",where is it located when i login as root ? |
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| 22:00.28 | moof2 | msn, no, that;s actually a "glob" (like for filename wildcards) |
| 22:00.37 | msn | moof2 : you could try removing gtk2 base library that would get rid of most gnome in one command because of dependency |
| 22:00.46 | zykotick9 | Bone9: my guess is you now have a /home/project1 directory, but just a guess. |
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| 22:01.05 | msn | moof2: i think libgnome* will work i tried i and have seen * work on one side |
| 22:02.01 | Bone9 | yes zyko :) how i can acces it via the root ssh ? |
| 22:02.07 | moof2 | msn, it probably did work... and, if you don't quote that, it will search the dir you're in for packagenames (which are not likely to be there) |
| 22:02.23 | zykotick9 | Bone9: "cd /home/project1" perhaps? |
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| 22:02.41 | msn | moof2: you can always go to /var/cache/apt/archives and run that command, tht will solve the problem |
| 22:02.57 | msn | unless you already did apt-get clean in which case ofcourse it wont work |
| 22:02.58 | Bone9 | it says to me there is no home dic |
| 22:03.11 | zykotick9 | Bone9: "cd /home" doesn't work? |
| 22:03.26 | moof2 | msn, it was a great suggestion tho... and, once apt-get said it wanted a regexp, I made a regexp out of it and got a whole shitload of packages |
| 22:04.19 | Bone9 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.40 | moof2 | Bone9, grep theusernamehere /etc/passwd |
| 22:04.47 | moof2 | look at the last field |
| 22:05.05 | zykotick9 | Bone9: if you want a regular debian user, just use "adduser USERFOONAME". then it will be setup with the defaults. |
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| 22:05.43 | Bone9 | its: user1:x:1003:1008:,,,:/project1/:/bin/bash |
| 22:05.44 | moof2 | yeah, that's what I suggested not 20 mins ago :) oh, and remove the user you created first :) |
| 22:05.53 | zykotick9 | Bone9: using root across ssh, is a bad idea, that shouldn't be allowed by your ssh daemon! |
| 22:06.07 | moof2 | so do you have a /project1? |
| 22:06.12 | Bone9 | yes |
| 22:06.15 | zykotick9 | Bone9: "cd /project1" try |
| 22:06.35 | Bone9 | ...it worked |
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| 22:06.42 | Bone9 | i feel insanely stupid now |
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| 22:07.02 | moof2 | why? you learned a few tjomgs |
| 22:07.06 | Bone9 | anyway,it works,thank you all <3 |
| 22:07.08 | moof2 | things |
| 22:07.25 | zykotick9 | Bone9: that's the path given in your passwd output above. that's a bad spot really. /home or /srv would be in better filesystem hierarchy format i believe. |
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| 22:08.10 | moof2 | if you have a separate /home partition, I'll have to agree with that |
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| 22:09.10 | Bone9 | how i do that exactly zyko |
| 22:09.20 | acu | I wonder if Debian Wheezy has kernel 3.20-4 and BTRFS has some bugs in that particular kernel number, and they are fixed for kernel 3.10, are those bugs fixed in the Debian Wheezy too ? |
| 22:10.06 | moof2 | so the package name I was looking for was task-gnome-desktop |
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| 22:10.20 | Bone9 | @Zykotick9: how i do this exactly ? |
| 22:10.34 | acu | In other words - bugs and features of BTRFS are enhanced in later kernels than Wheezy runs, are they fixed ? |
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| 22:10.52 | zykotick9 | Bone9: you might want to see the various readings linked to in the !grounding factoid. use "/msg dpkg grounding" and look for a PM from dpkg, anything listed in <these> are also factoids you can get through the PM. |
| 22:11.21 | zykotick9 | Bone9: don't worry about moving the /project1 - but i wanted to mention, that it's technically "bad form". |
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| 22:12.18 | Bone9 | bad form ? what does that mean ? |
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| 22:12.51 | zykotick9 | Bone9: it's gonna work fine, but experienced unix people wouldn't to it that way - is all. |
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| 22:13.05 | zykotick9 | s/to it/do it/ |
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| 22:14.24 | Bone9 | let me explain you what my goal is: i want to create a folder on my linux server that can be used by a admin of mine,he should be able to reach it per FTP,upload datas and unzip/untar archives |
| 22:14.26 | zykotick9 | Bone9: if you see "man hier" there isn't a /project1 mentioned anywhere ;) |
| 22:15.15 | zykotick9 | Bone9: sorry, but honestly, if you use ftp, it doesn't matter what you do. good luck. enjoy debian. |
| 22:15.41 | gnude | big thanks to all debian developer. now i use debian 7 on 3 computers the last week and it is very good! |
| 22:15.53 | gnude | sorry. last weeks of course.... |
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| 22:18.55 | moof2 | I must have super cow powers! would I need to rebuild aptitude? |
| 22:19.31 | honkeymagoo | What did you do? |
| 22:19.51 | moof2 | haven't done anything yet :) |
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| 22:21.02 | honkeymagoo | Well that's good. I can't imagine even super cow powers can help rebuild aptitude |
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| 22:21.40 | honkeymagoo | Maybe a little luck and the worlds greatest ninja |
| 22:22.07 | moof2 | oh, no, I mean, if I want to see what these super cow powers are, would I have to rebuild aptitude with a cow switch or somethign? |
| 22:22.12 | aguitel | is something wrong with turpial ? |
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| 22:22.50 | moof2 | aguitel, you can check the bug tracking system for that (/msg dpkg bts) |
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| 22:23.53 | moof2 | that is, you can do that if turpial is a debian package |
| 22:24.02 | moof2 | , info turpial |
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| 22:24.10 | judd | Package turpial (python, optional) in wheezy/i386: Light, fast, and fully functional Twitter client written in Python. Version: 1.6.9-1; Size: 666.7k; Installed: 1835k; Homepage: http://turpial.org.ve/ |
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| 22:34.59 | ranix | Anyody know why my IDE hard drives don't work with the realtime kernel 3.2.0-4-rt ? |
| 22:35.34 | ranix | they time out doing everything while loading the kernel and then I get dumped to initramfs |
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| 22:35.56 | ranix | it's driving me nuts |
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| 22:36.07 | moof2 | do other ide drives work? |
| 22:36.14 | ranix | no ide drives work with the RT kernel |
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| 22:36.31 | ranix | all ide drives work when using 3.2.0-4-686 (non-rt) |
| 22:37.17 | moof2 | I wonder if the laptop (sata drive) would work |
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| 22:37.55 | ranix | it's onoxious because this is the only machine I have with an lpt port |
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| 22:39.05 | moof2 | parallel port? which you need for a printer? |
| 22:39.34 | ranix | cnc machine |
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| 22:40.20 | moof2 | what do you use the rt for |
| 22:40.31 | acu | Hey guys - is Debian 7.1 going to be released soon ? |
| 22:40.43 | ranix | ...controlling a cnc machine via a parallel port |
| 22:40.52 | Vicissitude | acu, it was said to happen this weekend |
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| 22:43.15 | moof2 | so for this machine, it's essential for rt to be there, because timing is critical? |
| 22:43.27 | ranix | yes |
| 22:43.27 | acu | Vicissitude, thanks, I have to see what changes are going to occur, however I still have to mulled over running XFS/Ceph OpenStack or btrfs/Ceph OpenStack, but it seem that the kerne version of Wheezy is way farther than the fixes that makes btrfs reliable |
| 22:44.02 | moof2 | ranix, I almost want to suggest getting a scsi drive and card |
| 22:44.21 | moof2 | what is cnc btw? |
| 22:44.35 | ranix | what is google |
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| 22:45.39 | moof2 | why would you want me to feel bad for asking you what part of YOUR setup is? |
| 22:46.02 | moof2 | go help yourself |
| 22:47.23 | acu | very polite " GO help yourself" I learned something :) |
| 22:47.58 | moof2 | heh... the rhythm of that does imply something else... |
| 22:47.59 | ranix | I can't just go help myself with all these people watching |
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| 22:48.04 | ranix | it's embarrassing |
| 22:48.04 | moof2 | oops :) |
| 22:48.27 | ranix | still interested in any known issue with regard to RT kernels and IDE drives |
| 22:49.00 | moof2 | "any known issue" -> /msg dpkg bts |
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| 22:50.12 | ranix | already searched bts |
| 22:50.57 | moof2 | if you didn't find anything relevent there, that makes it more likely to be a local issue |
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| 22:52.01 | hypnocat | i deleted some packages using "aptitude remove foo", and now when i do an "aptitude search foo" i see that they still have a status of "c", meaning that some configuration files have been left over... how do i delete those configuration files ? |
| 22:52.33 | acu | hypnocat, aptitude remove --purge (or similar) |
| 22:52.35 | acu | ? |
| 22:52.38 | hypnocat | thank you |
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| 22:54.06 | moof2 | ranix, what happens when you try moving the parallel port to another machine? |
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| 22:54.32 | moof2 | or, what happens when you try booting an rt kernel on another machine that has ide drives? |
| 22:55.31 | hypnocat | hmm.. "aptitude remove --purge foo" did not seem to do anything regarding the configuration files of packages which had already been removed.. i still see a "c" status when i do an "aptitude search foo" |
| 22:56.09 | moof2 | then probably the syntax was slightly off |
| 22:56.48 | digitalirony | doing an apt-get update and it keeps telling me E: The package surfer:i386 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 22:56.53 | digitalirony | err |
| 22:56.53 | digitalirony | apt-get install |
| 22:56.57 | digitalirony | for something not related |
| 22:57.11 | acu | apt-get remove --purge |
| 22:57.26 | acu | apt-get is more forceful than aptitude |
| 22:57.32 | digitalirony | nope |
| 22:57.34 | digitalirony | still didn't work |
| 22:57.39 | digitalirony | and I don't use aptitude |
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| 22:58.09 | digitalirony | any apt command I use does that error |
| 22:58.28 | acu | hypnocat - that was for you - sorry - apt-get remove --purge |
| 22:58.41 | digitalirony | oh sorry |
| 22:58.43 | moof2 | digitalirony, what arch did you start with |
| 22:58.43 | digitalirony | heh |
| 22:58.43 | acu | sometimes you need to run a fix, if the packages were broken during install |
| 22:59.15 | digitalirony | moof2: its a x64 install, but that package surfer only has 386 packages |
| 22:59.16 | hypnocat | ah, looks like "aptitude purge foo" worked |
| 22:59.28 | moof2 | err that was for hypnocat too :) sorry digitalirony |
| 22:59.33 | digitalirony | lolol |
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| 22:59.59 | moof2 | dang, I gotta scrol back |
| 23:00.22 | moof2 | digitalirony, it was for you :) |
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| 23:00.35 | acu | digitalirony, I think you are installing something out of the debian package repos (that is what I feel), a suspicion that you are using a derivative of debian ? :) |
| 23:00.39 | moof2 | are you runnign wheezy? |
| 23:01.06 | digitalirony | acu, I did install it from a .deb from the developer |
| 23:01.10 | acu | so either your repos are not right /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:01.13 | digitalirony | but it still causing the issue |
| 23:01.18 | hypnocat | thanks for your help, moof2 |
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| 23:01.20 | digitalirony | its not from a repo :/ |
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| 23:01.46 | acu | digitalirony, yes, you may have some unfulfilled dependencies - you read what are those and install them by hand |
| 23:01.48 | moof2 | do you still have that .deb around? |
| 23:02.05 | digitalirony | acu, nope its not complaining, and its not when trying to install it |
| 23:02.07 | digitalirony | I already installed it |
| 23:02.33 | digitalirony | it happens when I try to run apt-get autoremove |
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| 23:02.41 | digitalirony | or really, anything at allw ith apt-get |
| 23:02.43 | acu | digitalirony, that is OK, even if it installed it -- see dmesg what you get or go for /var/log/errors |
| 23:02.47 | digitalirony | I don't even want that package anymore |
| 23:03.10 | digitalirony | acu huh? |
| 23:03.29 | digitalirony | nothiing in anything related to that in those |
| 23:03.50 | digitalirony | I can't even do like |
| 23:03.55 | digitalirony | apt-get remove surfer |
| 23:03.56 | moof2 | digitalirony, it looks like the message is saying the surfer package isn;t installed completely or something... that your take too? |
| 23:04.03 | digitalirony | sorta |
| 23:04.15 | digitalirony | but it WAS installed before |
| 23:04.19 | digitalirony | I just tried to remove it |
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| 23:04.21 | moof2 | I would suggest installing it from the .deb |
| 23:04.22 | digitalirony | and thats what happens |
| 23:04.24 | digitalirony | k |
| 23:04.42 | moof2 | then see if youre getting that message anymore |
| 23:05.06 | acu | well - if you want to remove it then remove purge it, but you may need to fix first the package (it may seem as broken package) - in synaptic there is a button for that - I forgot the cli for fixing (maybe apt-get force) forgot exactly -the package - then you can uninstall |
| 23:05.49 | moof2 | acu, I have a feeling the surfer package is in some weird state |
| 23:06.02 | digitalirony | acu, no destkop, no synaptic |
| 23:06.04 | digitalirony | tis server |
| 23:06.05 | moof2 | like halfway installed |
| 23:06.06 | acu | yep - that is why it needs to be "fixed" to be removed |
| 23:06.32 | digitalirony | ahh |
| 23:06.33 | digitalirony | yep |
| 23:06.36 | moof2 | acu, and one thing that could fix that is to just reinstall it, then test |
| 23:06.40 | digitalirony | installing it from the .deb and removing it fixed it |
| 23:06.50 | moof2 | cool :) |
| 23:06.56 | digitalirony | that was weird |
| 23:07.00 | moof2 | you can install other stuff too now? |
| 23:07.01 | digitalirony | I should have tried that first lol |
| 23:07.04 | digitalirony | just never seen that before |
| 23:07.07 | digitalirony | yeah its works now |
| 23:07.13 | moof2 | great |
| 23:07.15 | digitalirony | it was freaking puppet out |
| 23:07.17 | digitalirony | lol |
| 23:07.21 | acu | digitalirony, so far we (humans) are far weirder than the computers we make :) |
| 23:07.24 | digitalirony | was rolling out updates to my systems |
| 23:07.33 | digitalirony | and this one machine for some reason was being stubborn |
| 23:07.48 | acu | ironic heh ? |
| 23:07.56 | digitalirony | lol sure |
| 23:08.06 | moof2 | acu, so that the stuff we put on the computers are weird... maybe we want to express the weirdness which is us |
| 23:08.27 | digitalirony | or, the dev was taking too much asid/LSD when he made it |
| 23:08.32 | moof2 | you can now upgrade your nick to digitalsteely |
| 23:08.38 | digitalirony | and it worked well for him while on LSD |
| 23:08.44 | digitalirony | but, thats the nature of acid |
| 23:08.45 | digitalirony | lol |
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| 23:08.55 | digitalirony | its easy to communicate to other people on acid lol |
| 23:09.06 | digitalirony | and im sure software written on acid, works for people on acid |
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| 23:09.17 | acu | moof2: that oozez naturally out of us :) we have no safety limits and we have an adiction to futility |
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| 23:10.40 | acu | I like that, I have to write a book " Addiction to Futility and the Art of Failure and Persistence of Human Kind" :) |
| 23:10.57 | acu | we are off topic here :) |
| 23:11.08 | digitalirony | it happens when I come around |
| 23:11.10 | moof2 | in my case it manifests as procrastination |
| 23:11.11 | digitalirony | blame me |
| 23:11.42 | acu | moof2: another key word - procrastination, I wish we can procrastinate death :) |
| 23:12.07 | moof2 | I'd be interested in trying that... tomorrow... |
| 23:12.13 | digitalirony | lol |
| 23:12.26 | digitalirony | why do today, what you can always do tomorrow |
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| 23:12.58 | acu | moof: two key things should be forever procastinated (is there a word like this ?) - marriage and death :) |
| 23:13.03 | digitalirony | procrastination is like recursive function of wait |
| 23:13.09 | acu | lol |
| 23:13.14 | moof2 | there's a sign on this bar I go to when they have jam sessions... it says "Beer is free tomorrow" |
| 23:13.24 | acu | no, is recursive of "never mind" |
| 23:13.30 | digitalirony | lol |
| 23:13.36 | acu | moof: beer is free tommorrow |
| 23:13.39 | acu | that so cool |
| 23:13.42 | acu | I like it |
| 23:14.06 | moof2 | the funny thing is the sign never changes... |
| 23:14.11 | acu | that is how you can escape from addiction (and a lot of Debian) |
| 23:14.44 | acu | Debian is now so easy :) but if you really want to get into Masochism and pure geekiness - try Django |
| 23:15.18 | acu | Is like a all natural gypsy, you can't quite just figure out :) |
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| 23:56.35 | freebir | hello you guys, I'm trying to install debian, but I get a busy box error, and I can't go on with the installation, what can I do about it ? |
| 23:58.00 | epsilon | which version / how are you installing and whats the exacnt error message? |
| 23:58.24 | freebir | epsilon, I've just down loaded the iso version, like 2 days ago |
| 23:59.02 | freebir | th eerror says I was not able to install busybox, but I don't have it now in front of me, I'm trying something new to see if I've any success |
| 23:59.18 | zykotick9 | freebir: wheezy iso? what media did you burn/cat it too? then, what error. |
| 23:59.28 | moof2 | what is the exact filename of the iso file? |