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| 00:00.45 | phlux | well, you've come to the right place I suppose |
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| 00:45.36 | mns | I have a strange problem. At some point, I don't know when, something happened and now everytime I type "scp fi" and hit <tab>, instead of completeing the filename, I get a shell message from bash saying "-bash: eval: --: invalid option". this happens only with scp. not with any other command. |
| 00:45.58 | abrotman | tried with a different user? |
| 00:46.03 | mns | doing a 'type -a scp' .. returns /usr/bin/scp |
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| 00:46.37 | mns | abrotman: works with root. don't have any other users on the laptop. |
| 00:47.13 | mns | I'm sure its a config/environ issue, but I can't figure out what. |
| 00:47.23 | dondelelcaro | mns: have you reloaded bash completion recently? |
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| 00:47.55 | dondelelcaro | mns: . /etc/bash_completion; as the user which is having problems might fix it |
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| 00:49.04 | mns | dondelelcaro: ok let me look at that. I would think all bash users are using /etc/bash_completions so would have effected root too, I think. |
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| 00:50.53 | dondelelcaro | mns: not if you've mucked with the completions after it was originally loaded in your .bashrc |
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| 00:52.20 | petn-randall | mns: Somebody might have told you before, but you shouldn't be running every day stuff on your laptop as root. This completely subverts the concept of privilege seperation. |
| 00:53.00 | petn-randall | mns: Scratch that, might have misread your statement, sorry. |
| 00:54.44 | mns | petn-randall: yes you misread it :) I run as a normal user and keep a different window for root. |
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| 00:55.10 | mns | in which I do aptitude safe-upgrade and other configurations in /etc if I need to. |
| 00:55.37 | mns | I should get into the habit of using sudo .. but I like the separate window for roo. |
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| 00:56.43 | petn-randall | mns: I do that, too. I thought root was your *only* user (some users looking for help in here have done that, no kidding). |
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| 00:58.06 | mns | petn-randall: yeah, I've seen that in here before. |
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| 00:58.56 | mns | dondelelcaro: I tried doing a . /etc/bash_completion and I got the following error: "-bash: +v=: command not found" |
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| 01:00.40 | dondelelcaro | mns: uh... is your shell actually bash? |
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| 01:01.10 | mns | dondelelcaro: let me check .. should be .. better be lol |
| 01:01.25 | dondelelcaro | mns: or have you perhaps created some crazy functions, like say, set in your user's bashrc? |
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| 01:02.11 | mns | dondelelcaro: no functions for dealing with scp |
| 01:02.21 | dondelelcaro | mns: not scp. I said set. |
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| 01:02.49 | dondelelcaro | mns: if it works when you run bash --norc --noprofile; and then source /etc/bash_completion; then it's probably something that you've done in your .bashrc or .profile or similar |
| 01:03.11 | mns | dondelelcaro: oh I'll check that about set. my shell is /bin/bash |
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| 01:03.34 | dondelelcaro | cool |
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| 01:04.04 | mns | dondelelcaro: if I do a /bin/bash -x /etc/bash_completion .. it worked fine. no errors reported. |
| 01:04.23 | mns | I'll try the --norc thing you just mentioned |
| 01:04.53 | dondelelcaro | mns: that would basically do the same thing |
| 01:05.04 | dondelelcaro | mns: so that points to the fact that there's something wrong in your .bashrc or similar |
| 01:05.14 | dondelelcaro | mns: however, without seeing them, it's pretty hard to figure that out |
| 01:05.33 | mns | dondelelcaro: yup agreed. doing --norc --noprofile doesn't exhibit the problem |
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| 01:06.03 | dondelelcaro | (it's also possible that you've used set or similar to change one of the bash options; hard to say without knowing everything) |
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| 01:06.15 | mns | well its narrowed down. I'll see what I can find. I've not made changed to .bashrc or .profile or such that I can recollect. |
| 01:07.07 | mns | dondelelcaro: yup . there is a function called set() in my .bashrc .. I'll dig into it. |
| 01:08.02 | mns | dondelelcaro: yup that's the problem. I did a unset set, and things work fine. so why did it work for every other command except scp ? that is strange |
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| 01:08.36 | mns | and I've had that set() for years .. over a decade infact .. early 90s infact .. exactly as it is. |
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| 01:10.51 | mns | dondelelcaro: http://paste.debian.net/11698/ |
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| 02:13.41 | peterrooney | I've recently changed my desktop to a multi-core cpu from a single-core cpu (really), and have noticed much more frequent skipping when playing audio files, despite insane interventions like renice -20 $(pidof player) && ionice -c 1 -p $(pidof player) are there known problems with alsa on multi-core setups? |
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| 02:24.49 | dvs | peterrooney: not for me! |
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| 02:30.18 | abrotman | peterrooney: does your CPU have HT enabled? |
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| 02:33.15 | peterrooney | abrotman: $ grep -c ht /proc/cpuinfo |
| 02:33.15 | peterrooney | 4 |
| 02:33.22 | Max-P | Hi, trying to set bind9 as a local web server. But it doesn't work correctly because it starts before the network is up. How do I fix this? |
| 02:33.23 | abrotman | wait what? |
| 02:33.29 | Max-P | local DNS server* |
| 02:33.39 | abrotman | peterrooney: how many cores do you have? |
| 02:34.05 | abrotman | peterrooney: what if you don't use -c ? |
| 02:34.19 | phy1729 | Max-P: what do you mean doesn't work? |
| 02:35.03 | Max-P | phy1729, It fails to bind to local addresses. I setted it to listen on 127.0.0.1 and 10.2.1.0/24, but it seems to come up before the network is up because it fails to bind to these addresses |
| 02:35.32 | Max-P | all I get using dig is connection refused by the server |
| 02:35.41 | Max-P | and if I restart it manually it comes up fine |
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| 02:37.00 | peterrooney | abrotman: $ grep -m 1 ht /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 02:37.06 | peterrooney | flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt tsc_deadline_timer xsave avx lahf_lm arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority e |
| 02:37.06 | peterrooney | pt vpid |
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| 02:37.16 | phy1729 | Max-P: would you mind patebin'ing the relevant log lines? |
| 02:37.31 | phy1729 | or sprunge |
| 02:37.46 | dvs | peterrooney: so you have hyperthreading. |
| 02:38.01 | dvs | and 64-bit instructions |
| 02:39.04 | peterrooney | dvs: exactly. Previous was 32-bit w/o ht, so the drop in real-world performance is annoying |
| 02:39.46 | dvs | blames pulseaudio |
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| 02:40.29 | abrotman | peterrooney: is HT actually enabled? |
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| 02:43.34 | peterrooney | abrotman: how would I know? uname -srvm says Linux 3.2.0-4-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian 3.2.41-2+deb7u2 x86_64 |
| 02:44.01 | dvs | why do you have the realtime kernel? |
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| 02:46.01 | peterrooney | dvs: probably overenthusiastic tab completion. Is it relevant to stuttering audio? |
| 02:47.27 | dvs | peterrooney: not sure. I've never used a realtime kernel before |
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| 02:48.51 | abrotman | peterrooney: can you pastebin all of /proc/cpuinfo in a pastebin ? |
| 02:49.02 | edju | Running testing. On an update/upgrade I got an error msg & couldn't solve it. Not sure it means anything, but it's all at http://pastebin.com/jdwmh0R7. I use KDE & some Gnome pkgs, but don't think that should make a difference. |
| 02:50.18 | abrotman | edju: that binary is likely in another file ? |
| 02:50.28 | abrotman | judd: file gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --release jessie |
| 02:50.42 | abrotman | judd: file gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders |
| 02:50.47 | judd | Search for gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders in wheezy/i386: libgdk-pixbuf2.0-dev: usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders; libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0: usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders |
| 02:51.03 | abrotman | judd: file gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders --version jessie |
| 02:51.04 | judd | (file <pattern> [--arch <i386>] [--release <stable>] [--regex | --exact]) -- Returns packages that include files matching <pattern> which, by default, is interpreted as a glob (see glob(7)). If --regex is given, the pattern is treated as a extended regex (see regex(7); note not PCRE!). If --exact is given, the exact filename is required. The current stable release and i386 are searched by default. |
| 02:51.12 | abrotman | okay .. guess i did it right the first time |
| 02:51.44 | peterrooney | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/11706/ |
| 02:53.16 | abrotman | peterrooney: you clearly have more than one core? |
| 02:53.54 | abrotman | and more than one physical CPU |
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| 02:54.17 | abrotman | oh sorry, one CPU, four cores |
| 02:56.55 | edju | abrotman, I think that means the prog is in Wheezy, but not jessie? By the way, who's Judd?? |
| 02:57.43 | Max-P | phy1729, Ok, by bad, it just doesn't start on boot at all now, I will try to make it start on boot first and come back if it still doesn't start up. For some reasons, it is marked as to be started but it silently just doesn't do anything on boot. |
| 02:57.57 | abrotman | edju: a bot |
| 02:58.06 | abrotman | edju: or the bot is broken .. not sure |
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| 02:59.23 | edju | abrotman, Well I don't have any icon problems, so I'll just ignore it. |
| 03:01.34 | abrotman | okay |
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| 03:03.02 | karlpinc | I'm going through the periodic "I've upgraded debian, now what desktop works best" slog. Here's my requirements: http://paste.debian.net/11708/ Any recommendations. I customized e16 for squeeze, and that was painful... |
| 03:03.54 | karlpinc | s/recommendations./recommendations?/ |
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| 03:06.11 | peterrooney | karlpinc: do what I did, rebuild e16 from source. |
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| 03:06.55 | themill | karlpinc: sounds like kde ;) |
| 03:07.12 | karlpinc | peterrooney: Even after all the time I spent fussing and learning things I didn't want to know e16 remained a little annoying. (I never did get the window edges to be more than 1 pixel.) |
| 03:07.29 | peterrooney | karlpinc: Rasterman still has someone maintaining e16 |
| 03:07.50 | karlpinc | themill: I'm willing to go there.... But kde is so full of clunk. :) |
| 03:08.35 | peterrooney | believes kde is canonical clunk |
| 03:09.01 | karlpinc | peterrooney: I thought there was going to be e17 (which probably would have ment a do-over). Anyhow I'd be nice to find something I actually liked and be able to stick with it over multiple debian releases. (gnome was good, until it wasn't) |
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| 03:10.40 | karlpinc | I can't believe I had almost everything I wanted in a desktop a decade ago-ish. And then it went away and no replacement has surfaced. |
| 03:10.52 | karlpinc | enlightenment was reasonable. |
| 03:11.07 | peterrooney | e17 differs from e16 like gnome3 differs from gnome2, only without the suckage. Just different. I didn't feel like relearning a desktop, so I went back to the old. |
| 03:11.44 | karlpinc | peterrooney: e17 is not in debian as far as I can tell. |
| 03:13.55 | karlpinc | I'm done with gnome, and would so like to be done with kde. I'm using xfce4, just to have some gui. But it's missing a lot. |
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| 03:16.58 | phlux | i3wm <3 |
| 03:17.17 | karlpinc | phlux: Does it meet my requirements? |
| 03:18.04 | phlux | lol, no |
| 03:18.12 | phlux | it's just a simple tiling wm |
| 03:18.44 | phlux | http://www.phluxbox.com/img/iete6u.png |
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| 03:20.54 | karlpinc | (I wonder how I'm even going to test them. Probably with "alternatives". I'm using xdm because I need xdmcp and gdm3 and kdm wanted to install a kajillion packages.) |
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| 03:58.34 | kalw | hi all |
| 03:58.55 | cusco | hi |
| 03:58.56 | kalw | anyone can suggest if these two repos are good for squeeze |
| 03:58.58 | kalw | deb http://packages.dotdeb.org squeeze-php54 all |
| 03:59.00 | kalw | deb-src http://packages.dotdeb.org squeeze-php54 all |
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| 03:59.37 | cusco | php54 doesn't seem right |
| 03:59.44 | cusco | nor dotdeb |
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| 04:00.01 | cusco | !sources.list |
| 04:00.01 | peterrooney | dpkg: dotdeb alternatives |
| 04:00.01 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" has 3 lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
| 04:00.23 | peterrooney | !dotdeb alternatives |
| 04:00.24 | dpkg | Software from <dotdeb> historically had a number of packaging or functional issues. If you require newer versions than what <stable> offers, a lot of the packages now have updates in backports.debian.org, ask me about <bdo>. To remove Dotdeb packages: "aptitude purge '~Vdotdeb'". |
| 04:01.01 | themill | If you want to run php 5.4, just upgrade to wheezy |
| 04:01.09 | kalw | wow, didn't expect I will get this responses, but good to know |
| 04:01.22 | kalw | i can't really upgraded to wheezy |
| 04:01.30 | kalw | *upgrade |
| 04:01.43 | themill | if you can afford to fiddle about with php versions, you can afford to upgrade to wheezy |
| 04:02.03 | kalw | I need php > 5.3.7 for PDO to run ssl |
| 04:02.26 | cusco | kalw: archive has squeeze |
| 04:02.32 | kalw | unfortunately not, many things has to be rebuild |
| 04:02.51 | cusco | !snapshot |
| 04:02.52 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
| 04:03.03 | cusco | err |
| 04:03.04 | cusco | not that |
| 04:03.04 | themill | cusco? |
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| 04:05.04 | cusco | sorry, I meant http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive |
| 04:05.24 | themill | how does that help? |
| 04:05.28 | kalw | will check this out |
| 04:05.38 | cusco | like: deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main |
| 04:05.42 | themill | no |
| 04:06.11 | kalw | hmm y? |
| 04:06.22 | themill | !squeeze sources.list |
| 04:06.24 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" has 3 lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <squeeze/updates> <squeeze-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
| 04:06.53 | themill | kalw: seriously... don't touch stuff from dotdeb, it will end in tears. Upgrading that box to wheezy will be the easiest approach. |
| 04:07.16 | cusco | yes.. my bad... squeeze is old stable, still in mirrors... |
| 04:07.25 | themill | yeah |
| 04:07.32 | cusco | and I agree if the problem is version, why not upgrade to wheezy? |
| 04:07.54 | kalw | thanks themill, that's why I ask, i don't want to end up in hell, been there once |
| 04:07.57 | cusco | wheezy has php 5.4.4 |
| 04:07.59 | Dewi | kalw: squeeze will be unsupported soon anyway |
| 04:08.05 | kalw | ok |
| 04:08.16 | cusco | why not upgrade? |
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| 04:08.45 | kalw | I am not the sysadmin, actually, it will be his job to do that :) |
| 04:08.52 | Dewi | (I can't remember, how long does oldstable usually last? 6 months? 12?) |
| 04:08.54 | kalw | I just have sudo |
| 04:09.26 | cusco | Dewi: I think its 12, not sure tho |
| 04:09.28 | Dewi | googling suggests you have about 11 months |
| 04:09.32 | kalw | btw, how safe is it to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy |
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| 04:10.12 | themill | kalw: debian does a lot of work to make the upgrades work. There are some rough edges on squeeze->wheezy but it's perfectly possible and documented in the release notes. |
| 04:10.18 | Dewi | kalw: it will change versions of most things, which can sometimes involve some minor configuration changes, but it's usually not a huge amount of work. Try it on a spare or backup first |
| 04:10.50 | Dewi | I think of it as about 30 minutes, and I'm not a sysadmin |
| 04:12.18 | kalw | really? that's really cool. let me bring this up to my sysadmin, hope I won't get that chilling to spine look |
| 04:12.21 | Dewi | (not a sysadmin = I might be slow or reckless, probably both) |
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| 04:49.11 | leku | hi when I'm listening to sound on the web (soundcloud) it sounds like crap sometimes |
| 04:49.17 | leku | almost like it's skipping |
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| 04:50.18 | roger21 | how do i see the meta data of a deb packages |
| 04:50.34 | roger21 | the preinstall, postinstall and all the stuffs |
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| 04:51.58 | roger21 | oh dpkg got it |
| 04:52.47 | leku | it seems to only be when I play music in chrome |
| 04:52.50 | leku | go figure |
| 04:52.54 | roger21 | although 7zip for windows does not see the control file |
| 04:53.01 | leku | iceweasel is playing the music fine |
| 04:53.20 | roger21 | leku, isn't it all about flash anyway |
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| 04:53.45 | roger21 | does your chrome comes with an enbeded version of flash? |
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| 04:53.57 | leku | probably? |
| 04:54.25 | ectospasm | see chrome://plugins |
| 04:55.01 | leku | flash player 11.2 r202 |
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| 04:56.53 | Skaag | Hi, I'm cloning a git repo, and adding a debian/ directory with the various control files to build it, but I get this error: dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../opentxs_0.89.g.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz} |
| 04:57.05 | Skaag | it looks like it is somehow expecting the tarball to be one level above |
| 04:57.19 | Skaag | how do I get it to build without the tarball? |
| 04:57.50 | roger21 | leku, now check the plugins in firefox |
| 04:59.58 | leku | same |
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| 05:01.35 | roger21 | so ... chrome sucks |
| 05:01.41 | roger21 | (sry) |
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| 05:04.12 | ectospasm | why use chrome instead of chromium? |
| 05:04.23 | ectospasm | You may have better luck with chromium |
| 05:04.28 | ectospasm | leku: ^ |
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| 05:17.15 | Piyushb | what should be fileSys to make usb stick bootable.. |
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| 05:29.56 | ectospasm | yank: what are you trying to do? Normally it doesn't matter what filesystem is on the partitions of the USB pendrive, but what boot loader (and if the partition in question is marked as bootable) |
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| 05:32.51 | yank | ectospasm, yes I need bootable stick with ext3 fs..but i see FAT32 used everywhere in case of bootable partitions |
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| 05:33.33 | ectospasm | you can format it with ext3, no problem. The only drawback is that Windows won't be able to read the filesystem. |
| 05:34.42 | yank | yeah ofcourse |
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| 05:47.05 | garm_ | hello |
| 05:48.30 | capri | iscsi could show the active sessions, is that possible for fibrechannel to? |
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| 05:56.23 | garm_ | anyone here able to help a new user with a few things? |
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| 05:59.44 | garm_ | anyone here? |
| 05:59.54 | ectospasm | no |
| 05:59.57 | ectospasm | :D |
| 06:00.13 | themill | garm_: it's easier for people to answer questions if you ask then ;) |
| 06:00.38 | garm_ | well I asked first if anyone was able to help me |
| 06:01.21 | Deele | yeah, I do the same, you have attention, now ask |
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| 06:01.56 | ectospasm | garm_: that wastes everyone's time. Just ask, and wait for an answer. |
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| 06:02.16 | Deele | it doesnt waste time |
| 06:02.27 | Deele | it is called - communication |
| 06:02.44 | Deele | this is live chat, not forum |
| 06:02.55 | cusco | well its both |
| 06:03.03 | cusco | but by now he could have asked |
| 06:03.05 | ectospasm | but one should not ask to ask, they should just ask |
| 06:03.07 | cusco | ahd perhaps got a reply bac |
| 06:03.09 | cusco | k |
| 06:03.27 | Deele | if you join channel, you never get to see history |
| 06:03.42 | cusco | I agree there is no need to as, but sometimes we feel lie its the same question / same answer --> over and over again |
| 06:04.13 | Deele | but still, dont be mad on people being people |
| 06:04.46 | Deele | if you are here to help, then get ready to waste some time and attention of yours |
| 06:05.09 | garm_ | ok well |
| 06:05.15 | garm_ | I'm trying to install my nvidia driver |
| 06:05.21 | garm_ | I have no idea how |
| 06:05.36 | Deele | you have your own nvidia driver? |
| 06:05.49 | garm_ | from the nvidia site |
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| 06:06.37 | Deele | garm_ have you tried to googe? http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 06:08.39 | garm_ | I'll look at that page now |
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| 06:09.11 | Chat7138 | R |
| 06:09.14 | garm_ | pretty strange how you treat people who ask questions here |
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| 06:11.25 | Deele | garm_ that is because most people are not good teachers |
| 06:11.33 | themill | garm_: in a big channel like this, you just ask. You don't really want 1200 people to all reply to you "yes I'm here". |
| 06:11.50 | garm_ | [23:05] <garm_> I'm trying to install my nvidia driver [23:05] <garm_> I have no idea how [23:05] <Deele> you have your own nvidia driver? |
| 06:12.08 | garm_ | I'm talking about this, I just post my problem and I get a technical smart ass comment back |
| 06:12.40 | themill | (maybe we should just focus on fixing your nvidia problem) |
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| 06:13.14 | themill | garm_: which release of debian are you using, btw? 7.0 "wheezy"? |
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| 06:13.30 | garm_ | 7.1 |
| 06:13.48 | themill | dpkg: tell garm_ about nvidia dkms |
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| 06:14.07 | themill | garm_: what dpkg told you is a very condensed version of what is on the wiki. They're the same thing and both work. |
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| 06:16.33 | garm_ | alright thanks |
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| 06:17.32 | garm_ | do I have to type out the entire thing starting at aptitude? |
| 06:17.52 | ectospasm | yes, if it's a command |
| 06:17.52 | themill | or copy+paste |
| 06:18.06 | themill | everything between « and » |
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| 06:19.14 | garm_ | ok cool |
| 06:19.45 | garm_ | another quick question. when I enter a command in the terminal, anything else I type after that first command I get no response from the terminal |
| 06:20.01 | garm_ | the only way I can run another command is if I open another terminal window. is this normal? |
| 06:20.14 | themill | command such as? |
| 06:20.24 | garm_ | running a program I guess |
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| 06:20.32 | themill | can you give a specific example? |
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| 06:20.44 | garm_ | but even typing gibberish in, the terminal doesn't respond at least with not recognized |
| 06:21.11 | garm_ | ok well I type lostirc to run it |
| 06:21.17 | garm_ | and then anything else after that, I get nothing back |
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| 06:21.36 | garm_ | like if I try to open another program, i get nothing |
| 06:21.45 | garm_ | unless i open another terminal window |
| 06:21.51 | themill | if it's a program that's still running, you need to put & at the end of the command to tell it to run in the background and give you your prompt back immediately |
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| 06:28.17 | peterrooney | garm_: look into tmux or screen - multiple shell sessions in one terminal. useful if you run programs expecting input from the terminal. |
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| 06:28.48 | garm_ | oh |
| 06:28.54 | garm_ | alright |
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| 06:39.44 | ectospasm | garm_: tmux and screen are also useful if you intend to disconnect from one place and reconnect from another, it will keep the program running even if the terminal window has been closed. |
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| 06:41.18 | garm_ | alright thanks |
| 06:41.20 | garm_ | I'll try that |
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| 06:44.24 | Dewi | garm_: you can also do things like - (lostirc &) |
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| 06:44.52 | Dewi | garm_: the & backgrounds it, and brackets detach it (so it won't close if you close the terminal) |
| 06:45.29 | Dewi | garm_: similarly: nohup lostirc & |
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| 06:46.18 | Dewi | garm_: except nohup creates logfiles for the output, the other thing I said would continue to log to the terminal |
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| 06:48.21 | garm_ | I see |
| 06:48.28 | garm_ | thank you for all this |
| 06:49.28 | themill | If you're just running programs from a terminal on your local machine, you don't need to worry about things like screen and tmux. Just "program &" is sufficient. |
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| 06:50.30 | NoOova | I want print lines from file1 that does not exists in file 2? HOw to do it? |
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| 06:51.04 | Dewi | NoOova: if you're happy seeing that in diff format, diff file1 file2 |
| 06:51.11 | Dewi | (diff -u looks nicer imo) |
| 06:51.33 | Dewi | NoOova: (also shows all other changes) |
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| 06:51.41 | themill | NoOova: comm |
| 06:51.46 | NoOova | diff shows me many special info for patch |
| 06:51.53 | NoOova | i want to see only lines |
| 06:52.14 | NoOova | comm is good |
| 06:52.21 | themill | comm -23 file1 file2 |
| 06:52.22 | NoOova | thaxnx Dewi, themill |
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| 06:53.35 | themill | (run the files through sort of they are not sorted already) |
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| 06:54.04 | Dewi | NoOova: also grep -vFf 2 1 |
| 06:54.08 | Dewi | that won't sort |
| 06:54.32 | Dewi | um, might be a substring match tho... |
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| 06:56.33 | Dewi | grep -vxFf seems to work |
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| 06:57.14 | themill | egds |
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| 07:09.12 | tgirod | hi. I'm running a fresh wheezy. I'm trying to get the lid event to suspend, and to disable the screenlock. I edited /etc/default/acpi-support accordingly, but it does not make a difference. Am I missing something ? |
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| 07:20.53 | garm_ | how do I add myself to the sudoers list? |
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| 07:22.01 | cusco | I think they have 'visudo' for that |
| 07:22.02 | phy1729 | su to root and visudo or add yourself to the sudo group |
| 07:22.12 | cusco | altho its just the same as editing the /etc/sudoers |
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| 07:22.51 | babilen | garm_: It's typically enough to add your user to the "sudo" list if all you want is "Can run any command as root, but will be asked for password" -- You can achieve that with "adduser YOURUSER sudo" and a relogin |
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| 07:23.12 | babilen | ah, phy1729 beat me .. Guess I should get some coffee :D |
| 07:23.13 | garm_ | thanks |
| 07:23.24 | phy1729 | if you don't give a root password at installation, the user created is automatically a member of the sudo group |
| 07:23.41 | babilen | "The Ubuntu way"™ |
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| 07:24.25 | jdoles | What should the location be of the directory named «desktop-directories» somewhere below $HOME? |
| 07:24.46 | jdoles | It's a directory related to wine. |
| 07:24.47 | cusco | that varies |
| 07:24.49 | cusco | here is Desktop |
| 07:24.52 | cusco | ow |
| 07:25.11 | cusco | that is a windows question? ~/.wine/c:/ etc |
| 07:25.13 | cusco | or so |
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| 07:26.07 | babilen | cusco: You are thinking of the freedesktop standard and in particular XDG_DESKTOP_DIR which defaults to ~/Desktop unless you configure it with xdg-user-dirs -- but I don't think that wine necessarily does the same thing |
| 07:26.24 | jdoles | I already solved it myself. |
| 07:26.32 | babilen | and? |
| 07:26.42 | jdoles | .local/share |
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| 07:33.37 | mre8 | I am having a peculiar problem related to networking. I have a gigabit networking interface, connected to a gigabit switch, yet it is only negotiating 100mbit. Both windows and OSX negotiate gigabit when connected, so theoretically the problem is not with the switch. ethtool reports, that my network interface supports and advertises gigabit, yet strangely reports that the link partner is only advertising 100mbit. I'm feeling pretty |
| 07:33.38 | mre8 | stumped. |
| 07:33.45 | ws2k3 | if i only need to send out mail with a debian machine should i go for exim sendmail or postfix? |
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| 07:36.44 | ChrisH | ws2k3: _I_ would use exim4 in smarthost setup |
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| 07:43.01 | yaf_elec_ | hi. I'm upgrading from sqeeze to wheezy. I got this output: http://paste.debian.net/11724/ |
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| 07:43.08 | yaf_elec_ | shall I continue or something is wrong? |
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| 07:47.24 | jrichardson | the default installation for mongodb is standalone. i know how to configure mongo to sharded if using downloaded package. but how can i configure shard if i install mongo through apt-get. |
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| 07:47.44 | jrichardson | mongo.conf seems no place to add multiple mongod process |
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| 07:49.48 | e6tgy | Is there an application to monitoring that others computers in LAN are hanging/not working? |
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| 07:50.21 | e6tgy | For example app that ping other computers |
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| 07:51.11 | phy1729 | nagios ? |
| 07:51.15 | e6tgy | and communicate if computer don't work |
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| 07:53.05 | luese | magios. :) |
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| 07:55.38 | jdoles | Can I give access to another user to $HOME/foo without giving this user any access to $HOME? If not, why not? |
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| 07:55.43 | e6tgy | nagios is too complicated, something simpler? |
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| 07:56.44 | phy1729 | e6tgy: write a script and use rrdtool ? |
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| 08:02.41 | ChrisH | yaf_elec_: Which steps did you before ? |
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| 08:03.18 | ChrisH | e6tgy: if nagios/omd is too difficult (which is not true) try catci |
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| 08:03.40 | yaf_elec_ | ChrisH, I changed sqeeze to wheezy in my sources list. I did aptitude update, aptitude upgrade and here's aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 08:04.58 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell yaf_elec_ about squeeze->wheezy failures |
| 08:05.12 | txomon|fon | hi once more, any debian packager here today? I am stuck into the debian/control file |
| 08:05.13 | ChrisH | yaf_elec_: I only have this ideas currently. |
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| 08:06.04 | txomon|fon | I am trying to understand which type of packages there exist, if they are binary, or source+(binary)* or source only |
| 08:06.24 | e6tgy | ChrisH: It's not too difficult, I just need simple tool which inform me somehow (grapical,sound) if any computer is unreachable |
| 08:06.48 | txomon|fon | I would go to debian-janitors, but I am using a web client (webchat.freenode.net) |
| 08:07.08 | ChrisH | dpkg tell txomon|fon about mentor |
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| 08:07.48 | txomon|fon | ChrisH: I meant mentors, sorry |
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| 08:08.07 | ChrisH | txomon|fon: why not install an IRC client? |
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| 08:08.32 | babilen | txomon|fon: http://www.oftc.net/WebChat/ in case you aren't aware of that. But I'd just install a proper IRC client and be done with it. (irssi and weechat are worth a look) |
| 08:08.39 | txomon|fon | ports are closed |
| 08:08.51 | txomon|fon | im in enterprise network |
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| 08:09.23 | txomon|fon | thanks babilen |
| 08:09.25 | babilen | np |
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| 08:11.53 | jrichardson | when using notion in debian amd64, how do i switch between different workspace? |
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| 08:12.07 | jrichardson | pressing mod1+ 2 (3, 4, etc) doesn't work. |
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| 08:12.27 | jrichardson | but xmodmap shows mod1 Alt_L (0x40), Alt_R (0x6c), Meta_L (0xcd) |
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| 08:14.48 | seum | I have a suspicion that my computer has been comprimised, after a lot of programs startede acting weird and crashing. Now every time I wan't to install new software, I get the message "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated". What can I do to resolve this? |
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| 08:16.47 | phy1729 | which packages? |
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| 08:27.26 | seum | phy1729 - every single on I try to install |
| 08:27.30 | seum | one* |
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| 08:33.10 | Iridos | seum, sounds like there's a problem either with the pgp public key on your machine or the repos you use... the latter is easier to check, so do that first. look in /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* if that are official debian repositories... (or pastebin the contents e.g. to http://paste.debian.net/ - when you're at it, could also pastebin the complete error you're seeing) |
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| 08:40.19 | Iridos | they keys for squeeze and wheezy should be in the debian-archive-keyring package |
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| 08:40.46 | seum | Iridos - Sources : http://paste.debian.net/11731/ error: http://paste.debian.net/11730/ |
| 08:40.49 | Iridos | you can also add them manually from http://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html |
| 08:41.06 | seum | And the error is the same, no mather what pkg I try to install |
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| 08:43.37 | Iridos | does "dpkg -l debian-archive-keyring" show that it's installed properly (i.e line starts with "ii")? |
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| 08:44.24 | Iridos | if not, you can run, as root, "apt-get install debian-archive-keyring && apt-key update" |
| 08:44.26 | histo | Iridos: if it starts with ii it should be installed properly |
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| 08:44.35 | Iridos | then just try apt-key update |
| 08:45.53 | nc90 | hi guy.. who knows varnish and cloudflare? |
| 08:46.05 | nc90 | i have a little problem with wrong ip addresses |
| 08:46.07 | mrAZ | hi, i have different values from "df -h" and "du -h" on one mountpoint. any idea? |
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| 08:48.59 | seum | Iridos - It shows that it's installed proberly |
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| 08:49.34 | Iridos | I got a meeting in 10 minutes... and still need to prepare :-/ |
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| 08:50.35 | seum | Iridos - Sucks. Focus on your meeting. I think I'll reinstall tonight instead. |
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| 08:50.41 | yaf_elec | Hi, there is for sure something wrong with my system. http://paste.debian.net/11732/ and here is my sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/11733/ Can you help me ? |
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| 08:51.20 | histo | mrAZ: are files being written there? |
| 08:51.51 | seum | yaf_elec - Why the -f option? |
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| 08:53.20 | yaf_elec | seum, there are problems with dependencies, I'm trying to fix them. Previously, I couldn't dist-upgrade to wheezy. |
| 08:53.23 | Iridos | seum, I wouldnt necessarily think this means the machine is compromized, though |
| 08:53.24 | mrAZ | histo: they are supposed to, it is /var/log/mylog, i deleted older logs and size of partition is still critical |
| 08:53.48 | Iridos | seum, and shouldn't be too hard to fix... of course hard to say _before_ one found what causes it :P |
| 08:54.29 | seum | Iridos - Well, alot of programs started messing up, after a vist to hackcommunity.com, that's why I'm suspecious. And because I had forgot to activate my Firewall.. |
| 08:54.43 | yaf_elec | I get the same here: http://paste.debian.net/11735/ |
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| 08:55.51 | Iridos | seum, firewalls don't really do much for you... just don't run services you don't use or at least only run them on the "lo" interface if you don't need them visible outside |
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| 08:59.01 | histo | mrAZ: sync |
| 08:59.17 | seum | Iridos - You're probably right. I could try and fix it and just see if anything else would happen |
| 08:59.48 | mrAZ | histo: tried |
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| 09:01.45 | JohnThu | I need to configure so only my IP can conenct to VNC on :1 |
| 09:02.28 | JohnThu | I have set input to DROP |
| 09:02.37 | JohnThu | Nade a new chain |
| 09:02.52 | JohnThu | and allow my IP to connect to :1 in there |
| 09:02.57 | JohnThu | But it doesnt seem to work at all |
| 09:03.22 | JohnThu | Probably setting this up wrong |
| 09:03.32 | JohnThu | anyone that can review my config? |
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| 09:06.21 | seum | wtf |
| 09:07.07 | seum | apt-get dissapeared |
| 09:07.28 | histo | seum: aptitude |
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| 09:08.28 | seum | histo - Tried aptitude. "Unable to read /etc/apt/preferences.d" |
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| 09:13.54 | oo_miguel | when upgrading packages I get prompted that a new config file will overwrite my existing one, I answer NO, will I still get a copy of the new config somewhere? |
| 09:14.00 | oo_miguel | to examine it later? |
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| 09:21.52 | antihero | if a repo has x64 builds only, and I've enabled multiarch |
| 09:22.02 | antihero | can I tell apt to only look for 64bit stuff from it? |
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| 09:24.24 | yggdrasil | hello, where does a firmware file for a wireless card generally need to be copied to? |
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| 09:31.36 | antihero | edebian spec |
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| 09:32.16 | jelly | yggdrasil: somewhere under /lib/firmware |
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| 09:36.39 | yggdrasil | jelly: thanks. |
| 09:36.44 | yggdrasil | does it have to be a .bin file ? |
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| 09:38.08 | yggdrasil | well lets see if that works. |
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| 09:44.46 | jdoles | Let's say I have two computers: an old one and a new one: how can I move all data from one system to another efficiently with the least amount of manual interaction? |
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| 09:54.34 | sharky | jdoles, if you want 1:1 copy you can use dd to clone your drive to the new computer, if it is just data I would use rsync -avzP to copy everything |
| 09:55.32 | antihero | Aye, I'd go with rsync unless drives are same exact model |
| 09:56.12 | ectospasm | nice thing about rsync is you can stop it midway, then restart it and pick up where you left off |
| 09:56.20 | ectospasm | dd can't do that |
| 09:56.36 | jelly | yggdrasil: the file name and path have to exactly match what a kernel module wants |
| 09:56.51 | jdoles | sharky: the drives for a new machine are typically not the same. |
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| 09:57.33 | jdoles | sharky: does rsync also do extended attributes and ACLs? |
| 09:57.36 | sharky | jdoles, if the new one is bigger than its all good |
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| 09:57.48 | jdoles | sharky: with dd? |
| 09:57.55 | sharky | yes |
| 09:58.09 | jdoles | sharky: but aren't you wasting a lot of space then? |
| 09:58.16 | jdoles | sharky: or can you resize the fs afterwards? |
| 09:58.32 | jdoles | sharky: the end result should be a state in which all resources can be used of course. |
| 09:59.51 | jdoles | The major advantage of dd is that it is one sequential read/write. |
| 09:59.54 | sharky | jdoles, I think you can resize afterwards, if you want to clone partition, very good tool is fsarchive, it can do everything it can shrink, resize, resotre bootable partitions even change the filesystem I think |
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| 10:01.29 | sharky | jdoles, sorry, fsarchiver is the right name |
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| 10:05.09 | sharky | jdoles, rsync preserves most attributes if it can, but if you copy on a remote machine where the user [owner and group of a file] is not the same on both machines then it is not possible to set it the same |
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| 10:07.39 | UukGoblin | how do I generate a new locale? I've looked at http://wiki.debian.org/Locale and http://people.debian.org/~schultmc/locales.html, they both same the same thing, but: dpkg-reconfigure locales does nothing for me, and putting "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" in /etc/locale.gen and running locale-gen also does nothing (and I cannot see the new locale when I run locale -a, all I see is C and POSIX) |
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| 10:11.42 | jdoles | sharky: what I need is a program taking as input a device file and as a result a complete copy of / (and all file-systems that might be mounted there). |
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| 10:11.53 | Glorf | hi |
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| 10:12.09 | Glorf | i found a website that needs the unity web player |
| 10:12.16 | jdoles | sharky: fsarchiver seems to be able to do that in two steps or so. |
| 10:12.34 | Glorf | ( http://unity3d.com/webplayer/ ) |
| 10:12.58 | jdoles | Glorf: it doesn't work with Linux. |
| 10:13.04 | Glorf | there is no linux version, and i didn't find anything on the web about it (because of unity from ubuntu) |
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| 10:13.25 | jdoles | Glorf: there is no Linux version, so it will not work. |
| 10:13.30 | Glorf | can it work using wine ? |
| 10:13.50 | Guest76117 | what comes after sdz? |
| 10:13.51 | jdoles | Glorf: unlikely, but you can try it. |
| 10:13.53 | Glorf | (well, using a web-browser + that on wine, ofc) |
| 10:13.59 | Guest76117 | sdz1? |
| 10:14.03 | Glorf | i will give it a try |
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| 10:14.20 | jdoles | Guest76117: I don't think this is even specified. |
| 10:14.50 | jdoles | Guest76117: for one particular operating system there might be a system. |
| 10:14.57 | alteregoa | fascinating |
| 10:15.03 | sharky | jdoles, yes I have used fsarchiver myself and I was very pleased with it, yes 2 steps, savefs to create image of your partition and then restore to another one with restfs |
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| 10:15.23 | alteregoa | debian sounds like joy division |
| 10:15.26 | jdoles | alteregoa: but if you want to cover *BSD, Mac, various Linux systems, there is no general way. |
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| 10:16.02 | alteregoa | using UUID instead makes more sense |
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| 10:16.29 | jdoles | alteregoa: you are not telling anything new. |
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| 10:16.48 | jdoles | alteregoa: you seem to be trying to do that, but I can assure you that you don't. |
| 10:16.51 | alteregoa | i know im old i can't tell new things |
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| 10:17.44 | jrichardson | when install skype (32 bit) on amd64 (kernel 3.2.04 rt), i encounter dep problem as http://paste.debian.net/11753/ |
| 10:17.56 | jrichardson | how can i fix it? |
| 10:18.15 | jdoles | jrichardson: install the dependencies one by one. |
| 10:18.16 | Glorf | jrichardson : you have multi-arch enabled ? |
| 10:18.33 | ChrisH | jrichardson: what did you do? dpkg -i ? |
| 10:18.45 | jdoles | ChrisH: yes, he did (I had the same problem) |
| 10:18.47 | jrichardson | i follow the wiki http://wiki.debian.org/skype#Installing_Skype |
| 10:18.57 | alteregoa | install 32bit libs |
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| 10:19.22 | jrichardson | wiki explains that 32bit lib will be installed after skype deb get installed |
| 10:19.26 | jdoles | jrichardson: dpkg has no dependency resolution. |
| 10:19.30 | jrichardson | but i can't get skype deb installed. |
| 10:19.31 | jdoles | jrichardson: or chasing. |
| 10:19.34 | Glorf | well apt-get -f install should work |
| 10:19.36 | alteregoa | jrichardson, start skype from command line |
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| 10:19.46 | alteregoa | and then you see what you need |
| 10:19.55 | jdoles | alteregoa: ... |
| 10:19.56 | ChrisH | Is this a 32 or 64bit installation? But anyhow apt-get -f install should fix it. |
| 10:19.59 | jdoles | alteregoa: can you stop trolling? |
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| 10:20.14 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell jrichardson about skype |
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| 10:20.24 | alteregoa | jdoles, trolling? are you serious i told him to check the dependency |
| 10:20.26 | ChrisH | jrichardson: some more infos from our bot. |
| 10:20.38 | jdoles | jrichardson: yes, you want apt-get -f install |
| 10:20.51 | jdoles | alteregoa: and it couldn't be more wrong advice. |
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| 10:20.55 | jrichardson | apt-get install -f shows result like http://paste.debian.net/11754/ |
| 10:21.13 | jdoles | jrichardson: in that case manually install the dependencies. |
| 10:21.18 | jdoles | jrichardson: like I said before. |
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| 10:21.41 | jdoles | jrichardson: you can write something like for dep in a b c d; do apt-get install $dep; done |
| 10:21.43 | jrichardson | ok. it seems dep is caputured by apt-get -f install right now. |
| 10:21.46 | ChrisH | what does dpkg --print-architecture show? |
| 10:22.15 | ChrisH | jrichardson: Please allways show the command in your paste. |
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| 10:22.50 | jrichardson | ChrisH: Sorry, will add it next time. |
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| 10:23.35 | alteregoa | skype still doensnt support ipv6 |
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| 10:24.53 | jrichardson | ok. i can get skype launched now. thanks for all your help. : ) |
| 10:26.49 | jrichardson | is there any better alternative (ekiga, empathy, jitsi, linphone) that have close features to skype? |
| 10:28.00 | alteregoa | something thats based on XMPP |
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| 10:28.41 | ChrisH | jrichardson: One major pro for skpye is the cross-platform feature. Do you only want Chat or Voice or Video or any of them? |
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| 10:29.15 | sharky | maybe jabber server |
| 10:29.36 | alteregoa | coccinella |
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| 10:30.01 | jrichardson | basically chat and voice. if there is video would be good. because sometime conf between different places is needed. |
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| 10:30.32 | jrichardson | i prefer open source version, but don't know if one that at least close skype fit. |
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| 10:32.04 | ectospasm | jrichardson: remember that with Skype, you're using their network, their protocol. I don't know of another service like that. |
| 10:32.12 | sharky | skype is not only closed, it is not real p2p anymore and they log everything (m$) |
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| 10:32.36 | patriick | how much do i gotta install just to be able to change my resolution? fresh install of squeeze with gnome |
| 10:32.48 | patriick | sharky: the real sharky? |
| 10:32.53 | ectospasm | why squeeze, patriick? |
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| 10:33.05 | patriick | why not |
| 10:33.14 | jrichardson | sharky: yeah, so prefer open source better. |
| 10:33.16 | ectospasm | patriick: wheezy is now stable™ |
| 10:33.20 | sharky | patriick, what do you mean? I am not a bot :D |
| 10:33.25 | jrichardson | but need to communicate with others using skype only. |
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| 10:34.56 | staropram | never use skype |
| 10:35.10 | staropram | maybe use mumble |
| 10:35.32 | jrichardson | does mumble support video and voice? |
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| 10:35.43 | sharky | jrichardson, of yourse, a trojan horse needs couple lines of code for full access, most of them are like <100KB, so "closed source" == "NO trust" |
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| 10:36.27 | jrichardson | sharky: agree. and never trust binary file only. |
| 10:36.35 | sharky | yup |
| 10:36.58 | staropram | I've only tested voice. Not sure if it supports video. |
| 10:37.02 | jrichardson | but my dilemma right now is i need to communicate with people using skype. : ( |
| 10:37.32 | sharky | yeah I know that dilemma too |
| 10:38.04 | galant | please tell me one file that all linux distros have |
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| 10:38.49 | apm1 | galant, so that you can write malware to attack it ? |
| 10:39.05 | oye | README |
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| 10:39.18 | ectospasm | galant: / |
| 10:39.20 | staropram | The major problem is a lack of application sandboxing |
| 10:39.50 | staropram | Say skype is compromised, they can just do what they like in my home directory |
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| 10:40.16 | apm1 | staropram, yes and no |
| 10:40.36 | sharky | staropram, that is not much of problem any more, there are plenty of virtual machines - qemu, kvm, virtualbox, xen, then jails like openvz |
| 10:41.00 | staropram | sharky: and how many people jail each app? |
| 10:41.29 | apm1 | staropram, actually you can just limit the hidden sub directory of skype inside your home for skype to use |
| 10:41.59 | sharky | staropram, there is no need to jail each app, just have two or three instances, trusted, untrusted, testitng .. |
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| 10:42.04 | staropram | apm1: but skype can do whatever it wants unless I run it as someone else |
| 10:42.31 | ectospasm | staropram: appropriate application of sudo would ensure that |
| 10:43.05 | staropram | application runtime sandboxing needs vast improvement |
| 10:43.16 | staropram | for user apps |
| 10:44.36 | ectospasm | !ot |
| 10:44.38 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 10:45.39 | staropram | OK fair enough, I suppose this is more of a debian-dev topic |
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| 10:46.23 | galant | apm1 lol noe :) |
| 10:46.28 | galant | haha no.. |
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| 10:50.18 | jerryzhou | hi |
| 10:50.25 | jerryzhou | 'how to set activities under debian7 |
| 10:50.29 | jerryzhou | i want to change activities |
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| 10:53.42 | Kingsy | why is this? |
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| 11:08.38 | histo | Kingsy: pastebin the command & the output & ls -la |
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| 11:18.02 | tjr_ | hi |
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| 11:21.19 | galex-713 | Hi, yesterday, I upgraded from Squeeze to Wheezy « sed -e 's/squeeze/wheezy/' -i /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade », and there was some problems with postfix, dovecot and vsftpd : http://paste2.org/6DwXMh5J |
| 11:21.29 | galex-713 | How fix that? |
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| 11:24.24 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell galex-713 about localized errors |
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| 11:26.22 | galex-713 | Oops! Sorry |
| 11:27.33 | galex-713 | http://paste2.org/5dFcNaGn |
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| 11:40.04 | LordDeath|OSX | with this recent api changes is there still a CLI tool available to send tweets? |
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| 11:44.41 | ChrisH | galex-713: I do not know anything of postfix, but the first error message is Line 25. newaliases fails, can you fix that by reducing/chaning the value for message_size_limit > |
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| 11:45.29 | galex-713 | Yes I’ve just noticed it |
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| 11:46.16 | galex-713 | Ok, no postfix problem anymore :) |
| 11:46.17 | patriick | how long wheezy been stable brah |
| 11:46.37 | ChrisH | galex-713: fine |
| 11:46.49 | galex-713 | Some dovecot issue because configuration evolved… |
| 11:46.59 | galex-713 | I don’t understand why vsftpd fail… |
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| 11:49.20 | patriick | ectospasm: for how long |
| 11:49.25 | patriick | how long has wheezy been stable |
| 11:49.37 | ectospasm | patriick: Since May 3 or so |
| 11:49.42 | patriick | aiite |
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| 11:52.06 | ChrisH | galex-713: repaste the remaining messages |
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| 11:54.08 | galex-713 | http://paste2.org/ND35vb1c |
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| 11:55.45 | patriick | ectospasm: so how should my sources.list look brah |
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| 11:56.18 | ectospasm | patriick: sed -i 's/squeeze/wheezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:56.37 | patriick | aiite |
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| 11:57.16 | ectospasm | patriick: then aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade |
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| 11:57.41 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell patriick about squeeze->wheezy |
| 11:57.41 | introom | how you guys keep your irc account always online? |
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| 11:58.13 | patriick | im already reading that brah chill |
| 11:58.17 | introom | I see somebody idle for weeks |
| 11:58.23 | patriick | ectospasm: http://paste.debian.net/11764/ |
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| 11:59.05 | ChrisH | galex-713: Do you use this vsftpd? |
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| 11:59.26 | galex-713 | Yes |
| 11:59.50 | galex-713 | Why wouldn’t I use it? |
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| 12:01.28 | patriick | ectospasm: u didn't even click on it did you lol |
| 12:01.31 | patriick | aiite |
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| 12:03.36 | ChrisH | Lines 109-111 tell me the vsftpd provided start/stop script does not fullfill the LSB needs of dependency booting stuff. I would first fix the dovecot stuff and then remove and install vsftpd. |
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| 12:09.38 | ChrisH | galex-713: or compare your vsftpd header with http://paste.debian.net/11769/ |
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| 12:11.06 | bitgeek | I'm burning bluray, had no luck with brasero so am using k3b which is burning fine, but when I'm selecting files it says 1gb or 2gb remaining, so I think "close enough" and burn it |
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| 12:11.47 | bitgeek | but everytime it says I'm out of space, is there something I can do to make the estimate capacity more accurate? |
| 12:13.05 | mumpitze1 | simulate the burning first. costs time of course |
| 12:13.18 | ChrisH | bitgeek: WHEN do you get the "out of space" message? while burning? Or does k3b create an image and the temp space is not enough? |
| 12:13.58 | bitgeek | while burning |
| 12:14.13 | bitgeek | the first disc it spent 8hours "finalizing" |
| 12:14.38 | bitgeek | second disc it gave an out of space error message and stopped after |
| 12:14.44 | bitgeek | about 2hours |
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| 12:16.34 | bitgeek | both discs show 49.7Gb used, they're readable, just shows a list of filenames near the end which I can't open |
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| 12:17.48 | Desert_eagle | is it possible to reach raid1 vs lvm? |
| 12:18.01 | Desert_eagle | i mean without mdadm |
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| 12:33.59 | bitgeek | mumpitze1: if I select simulate it says I can't as BD-R are not supported, so I tried "only create image" but got "mkisofs returned unknown error" |
| 12:34.28 | bitgeek | image is 50gb on a 250gb partition |
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| 12:36.09 | patriick | Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgstreamer0.10-0'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) |
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| 12:37.09 | fourq | What is the Desktop dir for? I see no use. |
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| 12:37.31 | bitgeek | mumpitze1: ahh got it, the previous burn left a lock on a file when it failed! |
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| 12:39.10 | babilen | patriick: Is that a question? |
| 12:39.38 | patriick | babilen: yeah |
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| 12:40.02 | patriick | i get that after trying to upgrade |
| 12:40.07 | patriick | from squeeze to wheezy |
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| 12:42.03 | mumpitze1 | patriick: upgrade dpkg and deb* only then |
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| 12:42.34 | patriick | mumpitze1: the full command please |
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| 12:43.50 | petn-randall | Is there an easy way to identify what a block device contains? Other than going through pvscan, cryptsetup isLuks, fdisk -l, etc. pp.? |
| 12:43.53 | babilen | patriick: Are you following the release notes? |
| 12:44.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell patriick about squeeze->wheezy failures |
| 12:44.32 | petn-randall | + trying to mount it |
| 12:44.39 | patriick | babilen: thanks |
| 12:44.52 | babilen | patriick: Please try the suggestions our bot told you about one by one and paste the output/result to http://paste.debian.net |
| 12:45.21 | patriick | lol |
| 12:45.21 | babilen | patriick: This issue is also discussed in the release notes (which you are surely following/reading for upgrade instructions) |
| 12:45.31 | babilen | dpkg: tell patriick -about release notes |
| 12:45.36 | babilen | patriick: What amuses you? |
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| 12:47.04 | moof2_ | maybe what's amusing him is that the upgrade will not be a single command, but more than one, which he should understand (the more so, the better) |
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| 12:51.05 | patriick | how do i even know if this worked |
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| 12:52.33 | moof2_ | one good indication of a working upgrade is if your machine boots into it |
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| 12:53.54 | petn-randall | moof2_: It's a good start :) |
| 12:54.08 | moof2_ | patriick, fair to say you're not quite used to all this? |
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| 12:55.32 | patriick | so i gotta kill my screens? :( |
| 12:55.55 | moof2_ | no, you don't have to do anything you don't want |
| 12:56.04 | patriick | lol |
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| 12:56.29 | patriick | but i want wheezy |
| 12:56.33 | patriick | i like lil wayne |
| 12:56.37 | moof2_ | welllllll... |
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| 12:56.59 | moof2_ | what's your uname -r? |
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| 12:57.15 | patriick | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 12:57.21 | patriick | it's a kvm machine |
| 12:57.29 | patriick | kvm vps* |
| 12:57.37 | moof2_ | oh it is? can you make another one? |
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| 12:57.48 | patriick | no lol |
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| 12:58.13 | moof2_ | reason why I suggest that, is you want to keep stuff... |
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| 12:58.55 | abrotman | patriick: is this local? or remote? |
| 12:59.00 | patriick | remote |
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| 12:59.55 | lapidary | has anyone seen inet6 local address missing from one interface but not the other? |
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| 13:00.54 | moof2_ | you don't want to reboot into what's likely your new kernel because you want to keep stuff running |
| 13:00.56 | moof2_ | and the conflicting want, is you want to see wheezy |
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| 13:00.56 | moof2_ | if you can't make a new vm, don't worry about it |
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| 13:01.17 | moof2_ | if you look at /lib/modules (just ls it) you should see the uname -rs of your installed kernels |
| 13:01.42 | moof2_ | and one should be something like 3.2-4.something |
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| 13:02.23 | abrotman | so he has to reboot |
| 13:02.36 | moof2_ | if you've done the upgrade, you should have that, and /boot/vmlinuz-3.2-4.something |
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| 13:02.46 | moof2_ | yeah, but he doesn't want to yet |
| 13:03.07 | patriick | nah its fine |
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| 13:03.33 | patriick | Linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 13:03.37 | patriick | is still all i see lol |
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| 13:04.26 | moof2_ | in what, your grub menu? |
| 13:04.34 | patriick | noo /lib/modules |
| 13:04.38 | patriick | u want me to look at the grub |
| 13:04.50 | moof2_ | no, not necessarily |
| 13:05.13 | moof2_ | so here's the thing,,, as you're in the middle of upgrading to wheezy, it's not finished |
| 13:05.58 | moof2_ | we think it's not finished at least because you still only have the squeeze (2.6.32) |
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| 13:06.23 | patriick | you a dev or something? |
| 13:06.50 | moof2_ | that's an easy one... |
| 13:07.01 | patriick | reason why i think its finished |
| 13:07.13 | moof2_ | it's just that it looks like the 3.2 kernel is not installed |
| 13:07.26 | patriick | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.09 | moof2_ | dang I don' wanna do a really long thing, gotta sleep soon |
| 13:08.35 | moof2_ | could you pastebin your /etc/aot/sources.list |
| 13:08.45 | patriick | i did already |
| 13:08.49 | patriick | and no one responded |
| 13:09.15 | moof2_ | ok, I watn't here when you posted the link |
| 13:09.20 | patriick | http://paste.debian.net/11764/ |
| 13:09.28 | patriick | it might be expired by now |
| 13:09.37 | patriick | yup |
| 13:09.38 | patriick | lol |
| 13:09.39 | Zzef | exact |
| 13:09.44 | moof2_ | I get the "some" error |
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| 13:10.31 | patriick | http://paste.debian.net/11784/ |
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| 13:11.40 | moof2_ | when you do apt-get update |
| 13:11.51 | moof2_ | does it ever "get"? |
| 13:12.08 | patriick | yes |
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| 13:12.23 | moof2_ | are there a lot of gets? |
| 13:12.29 | patriick | 37 |
| 13:12.34 | moof2_ | wow... |
| 13:12.48 | moof2_ | see what apt-get dist-upgrade wants to do |
| 13:12.57 | moof2_ | but, say "no" when it asks |
| 13:13.03 | patriick | oh.. |
| 13:13.09 | patriick | it works now >_> |
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| 13:13.21 | patriick | i wanna yes :| |
| 13:13.22 | moof2_ | ok, so you're probably all set now |
| 13:13.24 | patriick | say* |
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| 13:13.36 | patriick | nvm |
| 13:13.41 | patriick | same error from a hour ago |
| 13:13.43 | moof2_ | I will suggest that you follow the release notes |
| 13:13.52 | moof2_ | what error? |
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| 13:14.11 | patriick | E: Could not perform immediate configuration on 'libgstreamer0.10-0'. Please see man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure for details. (2) |
| 13:14.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell patriick -about squeeze->wheezy failures |
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| 13:14.49 | patriick | i tried that already |
| 13:14.49 | moof2_ | mainly that if you follow the release notes, I can sleeeep :) |
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| 13:14.59 | babilen | patriick: Please try the suggestions our bot sent you one by one and *paste their result* to http://paste.debian.net |
| 13:15.04 | babilen | patriick: What exactly did you try? |
| 13:15.17 | patriick | the suggestions arent really clear anyway |
| 13:15.28 | patriick | it just says try again after everything |
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| 13:15.47 | moof2_ | get yourself a pad of paper... |
| 13:16.19 | floogy | Hi, benötigt rsync einen fehlerfreien unterbrechungsfreien ersten Lauf, um Verzeichnisbäume komplett zu übertragen und in einem incrementellem zweiten Lauf per Delta alles geänderte zu Übertragen? |
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| 13:16.33 | floogy | Ooops, sorry |
| 13:16.34 | moof2_ | write this heading: "packages removed that could be installed" |
| 13:16.35 | babilen | floogy: Du willst wahrscheinlich #debian.de |
| 13:16.38 | patriick | german... |
| 13:16.42 | floogy | yes |
| 13:17.08 | moof2_ | under that heading, write "libgstreamer0.10-0" |
| 13:17.18 | moof2_ | then remove that package and try again |
| 13:17.20 | babilen | patriick: Okay, try suggestion (a) -> paste output to http://paste.debian.net, try suggestion (b) -> paste output to http://paste.debian.net ... (rinse repeat) |
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| 13:17.45 | patriick | ectospasm: this is your fault |
| 13:17.51 | patriick | for asking me why i was on squeeze |
| 13:17.59 | patriick | all i wanted to do was change my resolution |
| 13:18.13 | moof2_ | oh, you might still be on squeeze |
| 13:18.13 | CalimeroTeknik | is there a bot in this chan who can tell me which package to install to get a particular file I'm missing? |
| 13:18.37 | babilen | dpkg: tell CalimeroTeknik about apt-file |
| 13:18.42 | moof2_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.37 | CalimeroTeknik | nice! thanks |
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| 13:20.39 | fourq | What's the best way to check for unmet dependencies before installing? Or, better yet, how to install those, as they are found? |
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| 13:21.01 | moof2_ | isn't that "apt-get -f install"? |
| 13:21.05 | CalimeroTeknik | is! |
| 13:21.45 | mumpitze1 | fourq: apt-get will tell you before it does anything if some dependency is not met. and it will refuse to go one step further unless it is met |
| 13:21.47 | yeshellothere | i prefer to use aptitude personally |
| 13:22.01 | mumpitze1 | -f install only helps if some debconf step went wrong. nothing to do with dependencies |
| 13:22.01 | yeshellothere | which has a thoroughly decent summary of what is broken and why |
| 13:22.07 | CalimeroTeknik | indeed if debian's package manager could install a package file and its dependencies from the repos at once it would be great, but you have to use dpkg -i file.deb ; apt-get -f install |
| 13:22.09 | yeshellothere | mumpitze1: not correct at all |
| 13:22.18 | yeshellothere | if you're installing a deb, it will not process deps automatically |
| 13:22.24 | yeshellothere | it will half install, which counts as debconf i guess |
| 13:22.31 | mumpitze1 | yes, but then you don't use dpkg, do you? |
| 13:22.37 | mumpitze1 | sorry: don't ues apt |
| 13:22.39 | CalimeroTeknik | however it does install the missing deps, mumpitze1 |
| 13:22.41 | yeshellothere | you use dpkg to install the deb |
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| 13:22.45 | yeshellothere | you then use apt-get -f install |
| 13:22.46 | yeshellothere | to meet the deps |
| 13:22.49 | CalimeroTeknik | that may be some side effect |
| 13:22.55 | yeshellothere | ^^ |
| 13:22.57 | yeshellothere | i still prefer aptitude |
| 13:23.15 | CalimeroTeknik | how does one install the missing dependencies in a debiaan system? |
| 13:23.18 | CalimeroTeknik | -a |
| 13:23.36 | yeshellothere | CalimeroTeknik: you just answered your own question |
| 13:23.37 | CalimeroTeknik | since dpkg -i package leaves you with missing dependencies |
| 13:23.44 | yeshellothere | apt-get -f install |
| 13:23.46 | yeshellothere | or aptitude |
| 13:23.49 | yeshellothere | will both try and fulfill deps |
| 13:23.50 | mumpitze1 | either via dpkg -i or with apt-get -f install if those dependencies can be met via sources.list repos |
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| 13:23.55 | CalimeroTeknik | but mumpitze1 said it wasn't that |
| 13:23.55 | moof2_ | for each package, it could be there's more than one way to satisfy a particualr dep |
| 13:24.00 | yeshellothere | CalimeroTeknik: he's wrong, it is |
| 13:24.20 | CalimeroTeknik | ah! I'm relieved thank you very much |
| 13:24.25 | fourq | so, I don't have the deb, i'm installing for a repo in my source list |
| 13:24.26 | CalimeroTeknik | I thought *I* was wrong. |
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| 13:24.42 | yeshellothere | CalimeroTeknik: try and use aptitudfe |
| 13:24.44 | yeshellothere | aptitude*~ |
| 13:24.45 | CalimeroTeknik | and had to review all my scripts |
| 13:24.46 | yeshellothere | get used to using it |
| 13:24.58 | yeshellothere | and it will pay you back in well tuned changes |
| 13:25.16 | fourq | thanks, trying |
| 13:25.26 | CalimeroTeknik | can I "aptitude something file.deb" and all the deps are installed from the repos in one go? |
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| 13:25.33 | CalimeroTeknik | as well as the package file |
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| 13:26.18 | CalimeroTeknik | if not, it's not worth it in my case, I'm just going to use debian for two weeks |
| 13:26.48 | fourq | Is it possible for me to obtain the deb that 'apt-get install <some-name>' is going to install allowing me to use dpkg -i? |
| 13:27.06 | mumpitze1 | CalimeroTeknik: aptitude install <package name>. not a normal .deb file. it then downloads the package and dependencies and installs them all |
| 13:27.20 | mumpitze1 | fourq: yes. /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 13:27.25 | CalimeroTeknik | you can ask it to only download it with -W fourq, maybe, and then dpkg -i from the cache |
| 13:27.45 | fourq | mumpitze1: is this dir populated upon apt-get update? |
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| 13:28.16 | CalimeroTeknik | mumpitze1, it just so happens that I have made this package myself and it's on no repository |
| 13:28.18 | armin | holy crap, email addresses according to rfc indeed are case sensitive for the former part. |
| 13:28.24 | armin | we're doomed. |
| 13:28.45 | CalimeroTeknik | so most servers just ignore the RFC |
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| 13:28.51 | armin | yea |
| 13:29.35 | yeshellothere | agreed |
| 13:29.44 | yeshellothere | we do case insensitive matching for accounts |
| 13:29.50 | yeshellothere | case sensitive email is evil |
| 13:30.00 | CalimeroTeknik | it's safe to have addresses that only contain digits, letters, dots and hyphens anyway; anything else is shooting yourself in the foot |
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| 13:30.20 | CalimeroTeknik | lowercase letters I meant |
| 13:30.27 | mumpitze1 | fourq: no it's the directory where all your downloaded packages are stored |
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| 13:31.38 | mumpitze1 | yeshellothere: case sensitive is no problem. people can have names and addresses with umlauts, éà and other non 7bit ASCII |
| 13:32.01 | fourq | mumpitze1: that's the thing, how do I download the deb that I'm installing from a repo in my source list? I want to use dpkg -i instead of apt-get install to see if that will resolve the dependencies for me as it installs |
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| 13:32.10 | yeshellothere | mumpitze1: i don't have a problem with unicode, postfix and debian handle that without issue |
| 13:32.15 | fourq | as of right now the deb i'm looking for is not in that cache dir |
| 13:32.22 | yeshellothere | mumpitze1: but people do email MyEmail@thewebsite.biz |
| 13:32.24 | yeshellothere | vs 'myemail' |
| 13:32.38 | ChrisH | Can you show the RFC part with case sensitive part defined? |
| 13:32.57 | yeshellothere | fourq: why can't you download it? |
| 13:33.29 | yeshellothere | ChrisH: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html |
| 13:33.40 | mumpitze1 | fourq: all of them you downloaded with apt are there forever unless you empty it manually with apt-get clean or similar |
| 13:33.43 | yeshellothere | The local-part of a mailbox MUST BE treated as case sensitive. Therefore, SMTP implementations MUST take care to preserve the case of mailbox local-parts. Mailbox domains are not case sensitive. |
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| 13:35.19 | fourq | yeshellothere: mumpitze1 I guess I just don't know how to download it without using apt-get install |
| 13:35.45 | fourq | my source list line is like 'deb https://someurl non-free' |
| 13:36.05 | fourq | and then I install with apt-get install <package-name> |
| 13:36.18 | fourq | so how would I download it? |
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| 13:37.17 | yeshellothere | fourq: shockingly it's 'apt-get download packagename' |
| 13:37.21 | yeshellothere | will put it in your cwd |
| 13:37.22 | mumpitze1 | fourq: you did download it with apt. |
| 13:37.35 | mumpitze1 | and it put that file in the archives directory |
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| 13:39.00 | fourq | well, f-me for not knowing about apt-get download lol |
| 13:39.27 | yeshellothere | understandable, it's hard to get a question answered here too with the high number of people |
| 13:39.32 | yeshellothere | fourq: may i ask why you only want to download it? |
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| 13:40.19 | fourq | yeshellothere: yeah, i'm trying to install the deps while installing, and since apt-get install only just tells me about the deps that are unmet, i thought I'd try dpkg -i and see if it installs them for me? |
| 13:40.46 | yeshellothere | fourq: it sounds like you have an XY problem |
| 13:40.49 | yeshellothere | dpkg -i will not install them for you |
| 13:40.50 | dpkg | removes a liver from yeshellothere and replaces it with will not install them for you |
| 13:40.58 | yeshellothere | thx dpkg ;) |
| 13:41.02 | fourq | =( |
| 13:41.03 | yeshellothere | but yeah you're probably believing they won't install |
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| 13:41.08 | yeshellothere | but in reality they're probably /not installable/ |
| 13:41.09 | yeshellothere | or similar |
| 13:41.19 | yeshellothere | PM me the results of your attempt to apt-get install the package |
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| 13:46.59 | lokote_jones | Not necessarily Debian related; but sort of... Does any one know of any collections of older, like 1990-possibly 80's computer books? Showing software in use at the time with a slant towards Linux/Unix/Early FOSS? |
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| 13:47.40 | superlinux-hp | hi, there is an app that let me draw a line on screen for teaching purposes. anyone remember its name? |
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| 13:48.11 | superlinux-hp | you know.. to highlight through drawing a circle for example |
| 13:49.14 | lokote_jones | superlinux-hp: Like a paint or drawing program? or Gimp? I can think of a million ways to make a circle in Debian. |
| 13:49.35 | lokote_jones | Or you mean draw a circle on the screen itself? |
| 13:50.04 | superlinux-hp | lokote_jones, no!no! LOL!, it draws directly on the root screen of Xorg. got me? |
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| 13:50.23 | CLTL | greetings |
| 13:50.43 | superlinux-hp | compiz has it. but i cannot use compiz as i screen record a tutorial |
| 13:50.45 | ChrisH | yeshellothere: quoting 2.4 General Syntax Principles and Transaction Model ... Verbs and argument values (e.g., "TO:" or "to:" in the RCPT command and extension name keywords) are not case sensitive |
| 13:51.00 | superlinux-hp | lokote_jones, understand now? |
| 13:51.12 | lokote_jones | superlinux-hp: http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/LinuxPresentations.html There is some stuff on making presentations from start to finish... Looking to see if I can find a way to highlight stuff in there. I understand now. |
| 13:51.14 | mre8 | superlinux-hp: I recall compiz had a plugin that does exactly that. It could draw in fire and magical sparkles. |
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| 13:51.47 | superlinux-hp | mre8, yes.. |
| 13:52.05 | superlinux-hp | but compiz slows the frames rate |
| 13:52.07 | lokote_jones | superlinux-hp: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/ardesia-touchscreen-drawing-app-linux That works if you have a tablet |
| 13:52.21 | ectospasm | patriick: you said it was a new install, and I was wondering why you installed squeeze. |
| 13:52.37 | superlinux-hp | ok |
| 13:52.41 | lokote_jones | superlinux-hp: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/draw-diagrams-pictures-presentations-sketch/ Sketch it |
| 13:52.44 | lokote_jones | There you go |
| 13:52.46 | lokote_jones | Use sketch it |
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| 13:52.54 | superlinux-hp | ok |
| 13:53.07 | patriick | ectospasm: i didn't lol |
| 13:53.24 | yeshellothere | ChrisH: regardless whether RFC supports it or not, case sensitive mail is totally unacceptable |
| 13:53.36 | lokote_jones | superlinux-hp: Did any of that help you? |
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| 13:54.33 | superlinux-hp | i found ardesia in my synaptic |
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| 13:54.41 | superlinux-hp | i'll try it |
| 13:57.15 | ChrisH | yeshellothere: the from my understanding the email adress is case insensitiv per RFC. So I do support your POV. |
| 13:57.48 | yeshellothere | ChrisH: RFCS can go hang sometimes, but mostly they're useful :) |
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| 13:57.59 | yeshellothere | still, that ould be a fun way to mess with someone |
| 13:58.04 | yeshellothere | use homoglyphs in emails |
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| 14:02.35 | ChrisH | usefull as Umlautdomains. |
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| 14:07.32 | patriick | dpkg: tell babilen about squeeze->wheezy failures |
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| 14:08.00 | ChrisH | yeshellothere: re-read that stuff and need to change my previous opinion. the part before the @ is described as beeing case sensitive. But thats enough OT from mi side |
| 14:08.30 | yeshellothere | ChrisH: appreciate the clarity, i'm still gonna go with case insensitive though as users cry a lot :) |
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| 14:15.49 | Asad3ainJalout | Hello al of you good sirs. I have quite a puzzle for you. I attempted to install a Proprietary radeon hd driver for my laptop. After rebooting. i rebooted straight to CLI instead of my kde login manager. no problem. i quickly wrote a .xinitrc file and booted in quickly. Well now my audio isnt working and I am having trouble getting out of this mess. Thank you for your help :D |
| 14:15.56 | galex-713 | I’ve corrected configuration syntax errors of dovecot, but an essential directive (socket, essential for dovecot SASL auth) seem to not work… http://paste2.org/2v11vBGG |
| 14:16.22 | galex-713 | thanks for help ^^ |
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| 14:18.17 | petn-randall | Asad3ainJalout: Check the X.org.log if there's any error message. |
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| 14:19.25 | Asad3ainJalout | petn-randall: where is this file located? |
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| 14:20.14 | maher | is it possible to run the debian installer from a current install, to install on a spare hd - I don't want to boot to the installer, jut run it from the command line |
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| 14:20.37 | CalimeroTeknik | I'm lost. is a package installed when it is in dpkg -l ? |
| 14:20.46 | Asad3ainJalout | petn-randall: found it |
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| 14:21.00 | zykotick9 | maher: installer - i don't think so. look into debootstrap for that. |
| 14:21.20 | CalimeroTeknik | how do I output the list of *installed* packages? |
| 14:21.24 | maher | CalimeroTeknik: if it is marked ii |
| 14:21.32 | Asad3ainJalout | petn-randall: There are 3 of them. Xorg.0.log Xorg.0.log.old Xorg.1.log. |
| 14:21.34 | CalimeroTeknik | what |
| 14:21.39 | maher | CalimeroTeknik: dpkg -l | grep ^ii |
| 14:22.01 | CalimeroTeknik | ah okay, debian is very tricky |
| 14:22.04 | CalimeroTeknik | thank you |
| 14:22.31 | babilen | CalimeroTeknik: also "aptitude search ~i" or "aptitude search '~i!~M'" (only manually installed packages) |
| 14:22.38 | babilen | CalimeroTeknik: What are you trying to achieve? |
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| 14:22.45 | CalimeroTeknik | I want the list of installed packages |
| 14:22.50 | petn-randall | Asad3ainJalout: Xorg.0.log should be the most current one. |
| 14:23.01 | babilen | CalimeroTeknik: Whatfor? |
| 14:23.03 | CalimeroTeknik | I mean the installed ones, not the ones that are in the repos included in the list so as to confuse me as much as possible |
| 14:23.05 | BlackDal | How can I enable open_ssl support in php on my debian web server? |
| 14:23.18 | CalimeroTeknik | I want to see if a particular package is installed. just… to see what I'm doing |
| 14:23.40 | BlackDal | CalimeroTeknik: dpkg --list |
| 14:23.45 | ChrisH | galex-713: Fatal: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 1004: Unknown setting: socket ; can you fix that? |
| 14:23.55 | CalimeroTeknik | wrong, BlackDal |
| 14:23.58 | zykotick9 | CalimeroTeknik: if you're only interested in a single packages status, try "apt-cache policy foo" |
| 14:24.02 | CalimeroTeknik | also displays uninstalled packages |
| 14:24.16 | CalimeroTeknik | or not-installed? I don't know |
| 14:24.18 | Asad3ainJalout | I am not seeing an error anywhere |
| 14:24.20 | maher | CalimeroTeknik: to find if package foo is installed, try dpkg -l | grep foo |
| 14:24.22 | babilen | CalimeroTeknik: You can just "dpkg -l PKG" if it starts with "ii" then it is installed. You can also use "apt-cache policy PKG" or "aptitude show PKG" |
| 14:24.40 | CalimeroTeknik | yeah well, |grep ^ii works fine, thank you |
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| 14:25.35 | galex-713 | ChrisH, no, that’s needed to make postfix SASL auth working… without postfix doesn’t work… |
| 14:25.42 | babilen | CalimeroTeknik: That shouldn't be necessary if you only want to see if one particular package is installed. It is better/faster to simply use "dpkg -l thenameofthepackage|tail -n1" |
| 14:25.55 | BlackDal | How can I enable open_ssl support in php on my debian web server? |
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| 14:26.33 | Asad3ainJalout | petn-randall: it found two errors (the vim search) (1) GLX error: Can not get required symbols (2) warning, error, not implemented, unknown |
| 14:26.36 | abrotman | BlackDal: you mean for an ssl website? |
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| 14:27.31 | BlackDal | abrotman: No, I want to use fsockopen in php, But it needed open_ssl option in php, I wan't to recompile the php, Is there a way to enable it without recompile ? |
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| 14:28.07 | ChrisH | galex-713: for me this is the reason why the configures fail. |
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| 14:29.52 | galex-713 | I try to change this (it’s better to make dovecot work without SMTP SASL providing than to not make it work) |
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| 14:34.56 | galex-713 | And that work… but of course SMTP (for sending messages) doesn’t work without SASL… |
| 14:35.39 | galex-713 | http://paste2.org/03nf60hx |
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| 14:39.39 | galex-713 | Solved! Just my other service vsftpd.ssl which was already providing « vsftpd » service! I’ve changed it for « vsftpd.ssl » and now that work |
| 14:39.59 | ChrisH | galex-713: so now everything is fine? |
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| 14:43.37 | galex-713 | Almost |
| 14:43.58 | galex-713 | (I'm on #dovecot) |
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| 14:55.18 | cragdor | Hi All, quick question: Is there a terminal command i can run to return the number of debian security updates that are outstanding on the box. Its so we can feed the number into zabbix for systems monitoring |
| 14:56.01 | petn-randall | cragdor: I don't know for sure, but there's a nagios plugin that does that, you could check out how that works and adapt it. |
| 14:56.15 | kuroishi | petn-randall, that's exactly what I was just doing |
| 14:56.18 | kuroishi | =D |
| 14:56.32 | esaym153 | I scheduled a command to run over night with the 'at' command. Now the command has hung. Anyway I can hack 'at' so I can see what was written to the terminal? |
| 14:56.45 | kuroishi | it might log to /var/log |
| 14:57.24 | cragdor | Cool thanks for the heads up i'll take a look at the nagios plugin @petn-randall |
| 14:57.41 | petn-randall | cragdor: you're welcome |
| 14:57.56 | petn-randall | kuroishi: You're looking into the nagios plugin? |
| 14:58.01 | kuroishi | yep |
| 14:58.04 | kuroishi | I have it running on my network |
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| 15:03.16 | kuroishi | cragdor, apt-get check should do the trick |
| 15:03.22 | petn-randall | kuroishi: Oh, we all do :) |
| 15:03.33 | petn-randall | kuroishi: nagios or icinga? |
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| 15:03.38 | kuroishi | nagios |
| 15:03.44 | petn-randall | pfff |
| 15:03.44 | petn-randall | ;) |
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| 15:04.03 | kuroishi | not my network, I work in a lisp shop, they're a bit old-school =-D |
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| 15:07.35 | local | if I look for a command like "pvdisplay" how can I find out which "package" I need therefore? how cna I search? apt-cache? dpkg ? |
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| 15:08.19 | cragdor | I'm looking at the plugin now, doesn't look nice but should do the job. It basically gets a list of all packages, jumps over unversioned ones and non installed. then finds the newest version and compares that with the installed on |
| 15:08.27 | cragdor | Seems a little long winded |
| 15:08.34 | gernot | local, apt-file. |
| 15:09.09 | cragdor | kuroishi: apt-get check just seems to check that apt is functional |
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| 15:09.22 | cragdor | unless there are options i am missing |
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| 15:11.11 | cragdor | @local i tend to search the package online, but to search apt you use: apt-cache search <search text> |
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| 15:11.32 | nkuttler | !tell local about search |
| 15:12.30 | cragdor | actual pvdisplay is part of the LVM packages if memory serves |
| 15:12.51 | cragdor | i thought that was bundled by default with debian |
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| 15:17.44 | moty66 | what does it mean when the package name has the sufix "{a}"? |
| 15:18.00 | moty66 | like apache2-utils{a} |
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| 15:20.31 | petn-randall | moty66: Probably whatever tool you're using is telling you it's a package that got automatically installed to satifsy a dependency. |
| 15:21.25 | petn-randall | cragdor: There's no true "default" in Debian. There are just essential packages, and packages you select you want to have. |
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| 15:22.57 | baudtack | i'm running amd64 but also pulling in some i386 packages. I've decided the i386 stuff is more of a pain in the ass than it's worth. how can i remove all of them? |
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| 15:23.25 | cragdor | @petn-randall @local - Very true, local you proberly want to install lvm2 then. |
| 15:24.18 | petn-randall | baudtack: Are you on wheezy? Did you pull in those i386 packages as foreign-arch? |
| 15:24.38 | baudtack | i'm on sid and yes, iirc. |
| 15:24.38 | mog | hi i set up lxc using debian template when i try to ssh in pam balks with this error sshd[1242]: error: PAM: pam_open_session(): Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified session |
| 15:24.45 | cragdor | @local - If you have that installed remember to sudo pvdisplay as it is not visible to a standard user |
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| 15:27.54 | mog | pam allows login over the lxc-console but not over ssh |
| 15:28.00 | baudtack | petn-randall: think i figured it out |
| 15:28.18 | patriick | get these errors after upgrading to wheezy from squeeze, something to worry about? http://paste.debian.net/hidden/2e566ab1/ |
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| 15:29.21 | jdoles | How can I easily give some files a user-specified modification date? |
| 15:29.41 | kuroishi | patriick, if you don't care about java accepting trusted certs, then no. |
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| 15:30.23 | moty66 | petn-randall: thanks |
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| 15:31.39 | patriick | kuroishi: would you care? |
| 15:32.10 | kuroishi | nope, but if you get java errors over https, that's probably wh |
| 15:32.11 | kuroishi | why** |
| 15:32.21 | kuroishi | do you use java applications regularly? |
| 15:33.08 | patriick | not that im aware of.. |
| 15:33.16 | brotherBox | Hi people. I am using Crunchbang, which is as I would assume a subset of Debian. Using it makes my eyes hurt after a while looking at the screen. This happens with Youtube also and is probably not related to the overall graphical style of openbox. Any idea what the problem might be? |
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| 15:33.21 | kuroishi | yeah you're probably fine |
| 15:33.35 | patriick | kuroishi: i mean how would i fix.. |
| 15:33.41 | patriick | guess i better save this log |
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| 15:35.30 | kuroishi | patriick, might try a apt-get update && apt-get update ca-certificates |
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| 15:35.53 | patriick | kuroishi: before or after botting into the new kernal |
| 15:36.00 | patriick | booting* |
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| 15:36.06 | kuroishi | sorry apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ca-certificates |
| 15:36.15 | brotherBox | I dont have that problem with Ubuntu, my eyes are perfectly relaxed now. |
| 15:36.20 | kuroishi | go ahead and do it before |
| 15:36.53 | kuroishi | brotherBox, I find #! to be nice and easy on the eyes, especially at night |
| 15:37.10 | kuroishi | it's actually one of the main reasons I started using it, is everything is dark by default |
| 15:37.11 | mtn | brotherBox: no idea, but you should go ask crunchbang support |
| 15:37.22 | kuroishi | yeah, I'll help you out over in #crunchbang |
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| 15:37.39 | brotherBox | kuroishi, thanks |
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| 15:40.22 | patriick | kuroishi: nothing changed lol |
| 15:40.24 | patriick | thanks anyway |
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| 15:43.05 | oo_miguel | what do the Ign lines tell me when doing apt-get update? |
| 15:43.06 | oo_miguel | Ign ftp://ftp.hosteurope.de/pub/linux/debian/ wheezy/main Translation-en_US |
| 15:43.10 | oo_miguel | ? |
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| 15:44.08 | knyl | When trying to format my 80GB HDD using GParted I get: "Input/output error during read on /dev/sdb" |
| 15:44.16 | knyl | it happens when I try to make a new partition table |
| 15:44.28 | knyl | http://paste.debian.net/11810/ |
| 15:44.32 | kuroishi | sounds like your drive, controller or cable is bad |
| 15:44.37 | knyl | output of dmesg | tail: http://paste.debian.net/11811/ |
| 15:44.45 | knyl | those outputs should help, I think the drive is faulty |
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| 15:44.49 | kuroishi | oh yeah |
| 15:44.56 | kuroishi | that is definitely a bad drive knyl |
| 15:45.00 | kuroishi | sorry =/ |
| 15:45.10 | knyl | :/ |
| 15:45.24 | knyl | So it is basically junk? Anything I could do? |
| 15:45.26 | HideMe | I need some recommendations for alternatives to OpenLDAP, or at least something that will allow multiple Linux/Unix servers directory authentication. Suggestions? |
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| 15:46.40 | kuroishi | HideMe, what are OpenLDAPs shortcomings in your implementation? |
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| 15:47.25 | donta | I just added data to: ~/.bash_profile and now my putty session doesn't color the text... what did I do wrong? |
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| 15:48.04 | donta | I removed what I added and it still doesn't correct the issue... |
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| 15:48.45 | cragdor | @petn-randall & @kuroishi - Nailed it! Just a little awk on the last line and i'm done! sudo apt-get install -u -oDir::Etc::Sourcelist=/etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 15:49.22 | donta | all of the text in the terminal is white... |
| 15:49.25 | cragdor | Well once i create an alternative sources.list with just the security repos in it |
| 15:50.04 | HideMe | kuroishi, Just hoping to discover something with a current roadmap. OpenLDAP seems to have stalled. A Web front-end to manage accounts would be nice too. |
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| 15:52.57 | laalko | Could anyone help me with the proprietary nvidia graphics drivers? I'm getting the Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0" when trying to launch Steam |
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| 15:53.36 | cragdor | Have you configured xorg to load the proprietary drivers and has it? |
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| 15:55.56 | laalko | ... Well this is odd. nouveau is blacklisted so I assumed nvidia was loaded, but apparently nouveau wants to ignore blacklist... |
| 15:56.19 | laalko | sec |
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| 15:57.17 | jmd | For the first time since upgrading to wheezy, I have to send an encrypted mail. I immediately get an error "pgpewrap" not found. Which package is supposed to provide it? |
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| 15:59.07 | kuroishi | jmd, looks like it's part of mutt |
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| 15:59.27 | jmd | Well I have mutt installed. |
| 15:59.40 | kuroishi | do you have /usr/lib/mutt/pgpewrap? |
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| 16:01.04 | kuroishi | if so, you may have to define that with the absolute path in your muttrc or crypto config |
| 16:01.11 | oo_miguel | if i keep the orignal version o a config file during apt-get upgrade, where do I find the maintainers new version afterwards? Is it lost forever? |
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| 16:15.02 | xelan | Hello, how can I automatically execute a command every day at midnight? This should still work even when the computer has been rebooted |
| 16:15.24 | kuroishi | cron |
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| 16:15.50 | xelan | I'll check on google for cron. thank you! |
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| 16:17.35 | xelan | kuroishi it's exactly what I want. Thank you |
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| 16:18.33 | emorris | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:18.57 | mrAZ | i have repetitive problem with _something_ changing rights on /dev/null. changing it back is n.p. but i need to know exactly what is doind that. any idea? |
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| 16:20.59 | WoAyumi | hey guys! |
| 16:21.51 | WoAyumi | I tried to put this "user2 soft nofile 1000000" into "/etc/security/limits.conf", but it does not work |
| 16:22.01 | WoAyumi | has something changed in debian? |
| 16:22.08 | WoAyumi | why does not it work for me? |
| 16:22.16 | WoAyumi | I'm using debian 7 |
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| 16:22.57 | WoAyumi | I'm still getting ulimit -n |
| 16:22.58 | WoAyumi | 1024 |
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| 16:24.15 | WoAyumi | can someone tell me why this does not change anything? |
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| 16:24.28 | grothendieck | from the manpage: Also, please note that all limit settings are set per login. They are not global, nor are they permanent; existing only for the duration of the session. |
| 16:24.56 | WoAyumi | I rebooted the computer, but the settings in the files stayed. |
| 16:25.05 | WoAyumi | however, the changes were not made, still. |
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| 16:25.15 | WoAyumi | in the file* |
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| 16:25.52 | WoAyumi | how to I make it work permanently though, for a non-root user? |
| 16:26.00 | grothendieck | http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/ulimit.htm |
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| 16:27.10 | WoAyumi | it says not to run it in a shell |
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| 16:27.16 | cragdor | i have added the following to mine and they work |
| 16:27.27 | cragdor | root soft nofile 100000 |
| 16:27.27 | cragdor | root hard nofile 100000 |
| 16:27.27 | cragdor | * soft nofile 100000 |
| 16:27.27 | cragdor | * hard nofile 100000 |
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| 16:28.00 | WoAyumi | the wildcard? |
| 16:28.16 | cragdor | Wildcard for global |
| 16:28.20 | WoAyumi | sorry, cragdor, you've got kicked for helping me :P |
| 16:29.14 | cragdor | I notice that there is now /etc/security/limits.d/ i would guess this is where you can create a file for an indervidua user of applicationl |
| 16:29.38 | WoAyumi | a file of any name? |
| 16:29.45 | WoAyumi | how do you do that? |
| 16:30.06 | cragdor | At a guess, but to keep it simple just add to the main file for now |
| 16:30.28 | cragdor | Remember you need a hard limit higher than your softlimit as far as i am aware |
| 16:30.31 | mullein | anyone have good sample ftp and rsync configs for their debian mirror that i could base mine from? |
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| 16:30.56 | WoAyumi | added; even with the wildcard it still didn't change anything |
| 16:31.00 | mullein | listening ftpd and rsyncd i mean |
| 16:31.16 | cragdor | will check with my test machine |
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| 16:31.39 | cragdor | Also you need to reboot for changes in that file to take affect |
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| 16:32.27 | O_no | hi |
| 16:33.25 | WoAyumi | rebooting... |
| 16:34.02 | WoAyumi | dang, still didn't work; even after reboot. |
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| 16:34.12 | WoAyumi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.12 | WoAyumi | 1024 |
| 16:34.16 | cragdor | Worked for me |
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| 16:35.03 | WoAyumi | all you did is just modified the /etc/security/limits.conf? on debian7? |
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| 16:35.28 | cragdor | Yep added the four lines i pasted above |
| 16:35.56 | WoAyumi | would you please pastebin your limits.conf so that I could copy-paste the exact copy |
| 16:36.12 | cragdor | yep |
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| 16:37.51 | cragdor | http://pastebin.com/MneTZcN9 |
| 16:38.12 | WoAyumi | thank you. Now, let me try it out.. |
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| 16:39.33 | WoAyumi | ok, rebooting.. |
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| 16:41.13 | WoAyumi | now it works xD |
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| 16:41.33 | cragdor | O well these things happen |
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| 16:42.05 | WoAyumi | aw man, I think it is because I was putting tabs instead of spaces. |
| 16:42.10 | WoAyumi | thank you, cragdor. |
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| 16:43.49 | WoAyumi | what security downfalls does this bring though, to add * instead of a specified username? |
| 16:44.48 | cragdor | Not so much security downflaws but you could end up with alot of open files choking up your system |
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| 16:45.33 | cragdor | I have had to expand it for load balancers that open up lots of socket files |
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| 16:45.40 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys ... should ubuntu 12.04 packages work for debian 7 ? |
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| 16:47.17 | cragdor | Depends if they depend on something in 12.04 thats not in debian7, kernel versions and package dependancies will be your biggest issues |
| 16:47.18 | WoAyumi | Understood. Thank you, cragdor. |
| 16:47.49 | zykotick9 | cobra-the-joker: using ubuntu packages in debian, is crazyness... just sayin' |
| 16:48.06 | cobra-the-joker | zykotick9: workbench only provide package for ubuntu |
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| 16:48.29 | StuckMojo | anyone know if there's an aptitude equivalent to apt-get autoremove ? |
| 16:48.36 | zykotick9 | cobra-the-joker: do they have source? it would be better to compile, then use ubuntu packages IMO... good luck. |
| 16:48.44 | StuckMojo | poked through the man page and i don't immedately see one |
| 16:48.53 | cobra-the-joker | zykotick9: ok |
| 16:48.55 | cobra-the-joker | Thanx |
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| 16:49.51 | cragdor | @cobra-the-joke : If you build from source and get it working, you might want to add it to the repo! |
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| 16:50.41 | zykotick9 | cobra-the-joker: if you just want the package for one machine - if you are unfamiliar with checkinstall, you should check it out (makes cleaning up a lot easier) |
| 16:51.22 | cobra-the-joker | cragdor: it's already in sid |
| 16:51.27 | cobra-the-joker | zykotick9: ok checking it out |
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| 18:48.17 | Almtesh | Hey, I'm looking for the way to make one number, very long, human readable. |
| 18:48.46 | Almtesh | I mean, the figures grouped by three. |
| 18:49.12 | Almtesh | FOr instance, I want "123456789" to become "123 456 789". |
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| 18:51.57 | midacts | tremon, Awesome, thanks for your help. I just wanted to make sure. the only other option is to go through the program itself's documentation. im not sure if thats the best/easiest route as it is not exactly tailored for debian. |
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| 18:53.03 | tuxy | hi |
| 18:53.04 | mullein | almtesh: a hackish way could be: echo "<?php print number_format(1234567890, 0, '.', ' ');"| php |
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| 18:53.14 | tuxy | im trying to double stack ipv4 and ipv6 |
| 18:53.23 | Almtesh | mullein, what? |
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| 18:53.57 | Almtesh | mullein, I don't have php, it might be too heavy to do that, don't you think? |
| 18:54.00 | mullein | almtesh: that's a solution to your question, replace 1234567890 with your number |
| 18:54.47 | tremon | Almtesh: that question is better suited for #bash or #c |
| 18:55.00 | Almtesh | tremon, bash. |
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| 21:56.31 | *** topic/#debian is wheezy (7.1) released: /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy | /msg dpkg 7.1 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | FAQ: http://deb.li/IRCFAQ |
| 21:56.38 | MrGodo | Hotshot: apt-cache search UTMP |
| 21:57.03 | Hotshot | sorry UTMP is installed |
| 21:57.09 | Hotshot | MrGodo: does dnsutils provide |
| 21:57.11 | Hotshot | nslookup/dig |
| 21:57.13 | Hotshot | ? |
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