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| 00:04.16 | Vicissitude | reminds me of when I tried to get icedove upgraded to the latest and apt-get seemed rather intent on removing all of gnome first |
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| 00:06.36 | riceandbeans | vultyre: the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade, is that dist-upgrade does calculations and will install new and remove obsolete packages, where upgrade only checks for newer versions of what is already installed such that they require nothing not already installed to be installed, and if that is the case then you are notified that the package is held back |
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| 00:07.11 | riceandbeans | vultyre: it's possible that a package was removed but I don't know, and I've never used lightdm so I'm not sure about configuration of it |
| 00:07.31 | vultyre | i tried apt-get install xfce4 and it says it is already installed |
| 00:07.32 | riceandbeans | vultyre: I use openbox myself |
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| 00:07.45 | riceandbeans | one sec |
| 00:08.19 | vultyre | thank you for your help everyone |
| 00:08.22 | Vicissitude | vultyre, log out and choose Other in the sign-on screen. choose Xfce if you can |
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| 00:08.44 | vultyre | riceandbeans: alright |
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| 00:09.51 | vultyre | riceandbeans: choosing xfce still lands me in GNOME |
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| 00:10.11 | riceandbeans | vultyre: check out /usr/share/xsessions/ |
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| 00:11.28 | vultyre | riceandbeans: i have a .desktop for gnome, gnome-fallback, lightdm, and xfce |
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| 00:12.03 | vultyre | riceandbeans: is it possible to fix the dependencies of held back packages without running a dist-upgrade? it probably wasn't a good idea to run it on testing/unstable in the first place |
| 00:12.17 | riceandbeans | grep "Exec" /usr/share/xsessions/xfce.desktop |
| 00:12.48 | vultyre | riceandbeans: Exec=startxfce4 |
| 00:12.52 | riceandbeans | if you apt-get install the packages that are held back |
| 00:12.57 | riceandbeans | hmm |
| 00:13.23 | riceandbeans | are you afraid of a little command line? |
| 00:13.36 | vultyre | riceandbeans: i am not |
| 00:13.45 | riceandbeans | vultyre: ok |
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| 00:16.22 | riceandbeans | vultyre: get out of X11, as root, sed -i "s/\#xsessions-directory\=\/usr\/share\/xsessions/xsessions-directory\=\/usr\/share\/xsessions/g" /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf && service lightdm restart |
| 00:16.41 | riceandbeans | vultyre: try that real quick |
| 00:16.48 | riceandbeans | or make the edit yourself |
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| 00:16.57 | riceandbeans | just out of curiosity |
| 00:17.59 | vultyre | riceandbeans: brb |
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| 00:19.07 | Mikicacarica | http://www.gratisbrazzers.blogspot.com |
| 00:19.11 | Mikicacarica | http://www.gratisbrazzers.blogspot.com |
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| 00:19.23 | vultyre | riceandbeans: would you be able to paste that again please? |
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| 00:29.29 | bigx | hi there, i made my own usb keyboard from an old keyboard that was inside some old stuff from the beginning of th 80s (not a computer at all) |
| 00:30.00 | bigx | so the keyboard mapping is just a nonsense |
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| 00:30.33 | bigx | I need to remap manually the key, and i'm too lazy to use xmodmap config file |
| 00:30.45 | bigx | is there any gui to achieve the same? |
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| 00:34.52 | factor | Why cant I start kvpm |
| 00:34.56 | factor | I get dbus erros |
| 00:35.09 | MaXim_ | bigx, you should do the remapping in hardware! |
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| 00:41.12 | nardev | is there anyway to find older google chrome which is installable on squeeze? |
| 00:41.27 | factor | oh had to run export $(dbus-launch) |
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| 00:56.09 | h3jon | anyone who is experienced with openbox (rc.xml) know if i can get two commands to both be carried out when i enter a key |
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| 00:58.34 | zykotick9 | nardev: "google chrome" is not a debian package... chromium is. not really on-topic for #d |
| 00:58.52 | nardev | zykotick9, just aksed |
| 00:58.56 | nardev | in case someone know |
| 00:59.05 | nardev | it's common problem as i see |
| 00:59.18 | nardev | for debian users |
| 00:59.20 | nardev | sorry |
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| 01:12.19 | racar | Hey guys, debian squeeze 6.0.6 here. Trying to update chromium browser but i get an error for broken package (libc6 and python-apt) Any idea ? thx |
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| 01:14.40 | zq | is there a way to merge the contents of B/ into A/ without cp -r? |
| 01:15.22 | Corey | mv |
| 01:15.31 | Corey | zq: ^ |
| 01:15.44 | Corey | Or rsync. |
| 01:15.45 | racar | zq, rsync ? |
| 01:16.12 | zq | Corey: rsync copies |
| 01:16.15 | Corey | Or getting really cute with a for loop and ln, but that's just nuts. :-) |
| 01:16.17 | zq | racar: rsync copies |
| 01:16.21 | zq | what is it with you people and copying |
| 01:16.21 | Corey | zq: Okay, what's the actual problem you're trying to solve? |
| 01:16.27 | Corey | zq: And rsync can move as well. |
| 01:16.31 | zq | it's exctly what i said |
| 01:16.34 | zq | what |
| 01:16.37 | Corey | zq: It's stupendously versatile. |
| 01:16.51 | Corey | zq: "man rsync" is a good read, if somewhat lengthy, but it can do exactly that. |
| 01:17.01 | zq | Corey: i'm in a rush, can you give me a pointer to which -flag? |
| 01:17.13 | zq | as in what flag do i grep the man for |
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| 01:17.35 | racar | --remove-source-files |
| 01:17.43 | zq | what the hell |
| 01:17.44 | Corey | --delete-* is also useful. :-) |
| 01:17.51 | zq | so that's still copying ultimately |
| 01:17.56 | Corey | (there are a few options depending upon what you want to do) |
| 01:17.57 | zq | it's just copy followed by remove |
| 01:18.28 | Corey | zq: You're doing a poor job as coming off as lovable here-- what's the problem, you're out of disk? |
| 01:18.33 | zq | did i mention that both B and A are multijiggabytes? |
| 01:18.40 | Corey | No, you did not. |
| 01:18.41 | zq | Corey: i don't want to fcking copy |
| 01:18.45 | zq | i want to move |
| 01:18.48 | Corey | zq: Are A and B on the same filesystem? |
| 01:18.49 | zq | rewrite oinode pointeres |
| 01:18.51 | zq | yes |
| 01:18.55 | Corey | Then you can mv. |
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| 01:19.01 | zq | for ; mv ? |
| 01:19.03 | zq | srsly? |
| 01:19.09 | Corey | The way that mv works under the hood is via hardlinks. |
| 01:19.15 | zq | yeah no kidding |
| 01:19.39 | zq | which unix philosophy prevents mv from knowing -r? |
| 01:20.54 | Corey | You can also get cute with rsync's link-dest flag. |
| 01:21.07 | Corey | That'll do what you're trying to do, but test it first to ensure you have the trailing slash in place. |
| 01:21.11 | Corey | If not, bad things happen. |
| 01:21.29 | zq | Corey: that is nice |
| 01:21.50 | zq | Corey: thanks |
| 01:21.56 | Corey | zq: No worries. |
| 01:22.28 | Corey | As mentioned, rsync is stupidly versatile. |
| 01:22.40 | Corey | I only know this because I blew away production data once, and reading the entirity of man rsync was my penance. |
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| 01:28.46 | zq | cutely versatile |
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| 01:44.53 | Freeaqingme | hi folks; I have a project that, once compiled, produces a .so file; I'm looking for a tutorial that explains how I can get that raw .so file inside a debian package. I've been googling for hours (and not seeing the forest through the trees), but unable of finding anything... |
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| 01:45.14 | Freeaqingme | to be clear; there is no debian package yet |
| 01:46.12 | abrotman | !tell Freeaqingme about nmg |
| 01:46.19 | chemtail | apt-get randomly wants to yank out my entire desktop system + more with 'autoremove' because it's decided those packages are somehow no longer needed after removing trivial, stand-alone packages - why is this? |
| 01:47.10 | chemtail | eg. I uninstall k3b and then kde* "is no longer required" (and more). |
| 01:47.11 | Vicissitude | library conflicts most likely |
| 01:47.31 | Freeaqingme | abrotman, tnx |
| 01:47.41 | chemtail | Vicissitude: I don't understand.. library conflicts screw up dependencies? |
| 01:48.05 | Konrad127123 | Vicissitude: no |
| 01:48.17 | Vicissitude | chemtail, I had a similar issue when trying to install the latest icedove. apt-get wanted to remove all of gnome as well as adblocker |
| 01:48.34 | Vicissitude | best answer I could get to my question about it was "library conflicts" |
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| 01:49.04 | chemtail | Vicissitude: Unfortunately that's the closest I've come to an answer myself, yet. |
| 01:49.12 | abrotman | chemtail: /msg dpkg unmarkauto |
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| 01:49.19 | chemtail | Vicissitude: Did you find a fix or workaround? |
| 01:49.30 | Vicissitude | not as of yet, no |
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| 01:50.02 | chemtail | abrotman: thank you. |
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| 01:51.17 | chemtail | I still don't understand why the packages&dependencies are laid out like that. It was just a lucky glance that kept me from rendering my system inoperable. |
| 01:51.37 | abrotman | chemtail: to be realistic .. leaving k3b installed harms what? |
| 01:52.04 | chemtail | abrotman: Not that it really matters, k3b was just an example. |
| 01:52.28 | abrotman | chemtail: well, the statement still stands |
| 01:52.36 | chemtail | Originally saw it on a system I was trimming down for a tiny VM, where k3b was uninstalled (and yes, size matters there). |
| 01:52.38 | abrotman | insert whichever package is appropriate |
| 01:52.49 | abrotman | chemtail: if size matters, you're not using KDE |
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| 01:53.26 | chemtail | Thank you for your help, but nittygritty'ing about why I do what I do is pretty pointless. |
| 01:53.44 | chemtail | Had my reasons, k3b wasn't even what caused the problem on this latter system, just chose it as an example. |
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| 01:54.45 | phy1729 | chemtail: then don't use metapackages but install the packages you need yourself |
| 01:55.29 | abrotman | oh, /ragequit |
| 01:56.11 | confined | I'm at squeeze on an ibm thinkpad t40.. I did some updates and it broke my x windows.. (I guess this is an ati radeon mobility m7 7500) ... |
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| 01:56.57 | abrotman | contempt: do your sources point at squeeze or stable ? |
| 01:57.02 | jaggz- | squeeze |
| 01:57.38 | jaggz- | (abrotman, I changed my nick) |
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| 01:58.55 | abrotman | doesn't know who jaggz- is, gives up |
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| 01:59.44 | Th0masR0ss | abrotman: confined |
| 02:00.02 | abrotman | no, doesn't make sense! |
| 02:00.08 | abrotman | jaggz-: all your sources? |
| 02:00.12 | Th0masR0ss | abrotman: confined is now known as jaggz- |
| 02:00.18 | abrotman | Th0masR0ss: wait, how?! |
| 02:00.51 | jaggz- | there's a squeeze-backports in here.. you are extremely perceptive |
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| 02:00.58 | abrotman | jaggz-: cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 02:01.11 | abrotman | jaggz-: they all point at squeeze, you promise? |
| 02:01.45 | jaggz- | never knew about that directory.. there's a google chrome in there with "stable" |
| 02:01.51 | jaggz- | sowry |
| 02:01.56 | abrotman | onono! |
| 02:02.05 | abrotman | jaggz-: were you using fglrx? |
| 02:02.27 | jaggz- | I recall setting that up.. but it's been years since I configured this system really |
| 02:02.39 | abrotman | you may want to try to do that again |
| 02:02.53 | jaggz- | quite a good quality laptop... from 2005 I think .. constantly on for years |
| 02:03.00 | abrotman | and/or, do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
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| 02:03.19 | jaggz- | I do use xorg.conf |
| 02:03.37 | abrotman | you may want to try to mv it aside, try to start X again |
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| 02:04.08 | jaggz- | should I remove the google chrome source (I already did) and update? |
| 02:04.16 | abrotman | shouldn't impact it really |
| 02:04.33 | jaggz- | x11 was trying vesa and stuff :) |
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| 02:05.49 | Th0masR0ss | jaggz-: why don't you just use chromium? |
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| 02:06.06 | Th0masR0ss | Oh er |
| 02:06.21 | Th0masR0ss | I though chrome was your problem. Disregard that. |
| 02:06.29 | Th0masR0ss | didn't read up |
| 02:06.50 | phix | heh |
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| 02:10.13 | jaggz- | no display .. no errors (that I can see) either.. it appears I have a radeon driver installed |
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| 02:22.19 | jaggz- | hmm.. squeeze/non-free fglrx packages aren't found on ftp.us.debian |
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| 02:26.34 | atannus | Hey, when someone rants about gnome3 you guys should immediately point them to extensions.gnome.org. I'm feeling almost relieved! |
| 02:26.34 | _blackjack_ | hello guys |
| 02:26.36 | _blackjack_ | i have question |
| 02:26.50 | _blackjack_ | is it scan my own server. and it has like this |
| 02:26.52 | _blackjack_ | 646/tcp filtered ldp |
| 02:27.04 | _blackjack_ | is that a bad thing? Should ldp be turned off? |
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| 02:38.40 | _blackjack_ | hello |
| 02:38.43 | _blackjack_ | no body is alive |
| 02:38.56 | anonnumberanon | Hi |
| 02:38.57 | Freeaqingme | for many people it's past midnight |
| 02:38.58 | cst | is alive |
| 02:39.08 | _blackjack_ | i have question only |
| 02:39.18 | _blackjack_ | is it secure for a newly installed debian by default to go online? |
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| 03:00.02 | jaggz|2 | How do I go about getting fglrx installed? I find it in the websearch at http://packages.debian.org/squeeze-backports/fglrx-driver |
| 03:00.08 | jaggz|2 | is this right? deb ftp://debian.cs.binghamton.edu/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports main non-free |
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| 03:03.43 | jaggz|2 | why's the channel feel dead |
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| 03:04.22 | Vicissitude | because you're not getting answers as fast as you'd like |
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| 03:05.04 | jaggz|2 | no I mean.. no talking.. felt strange for the channel :) |
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| 03:09.41 | atannus | Some awesome: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/427/workspaces-to-dock/ |
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| 03:14.32 | jaggz|2 | weird. I see it here ftp://debian.cs.binghamton.edu/debian-backports/pool/non-free/f/fglrx-driver/ but I can't seem to get it to show up in aptitude search fglrx |
| 03:15.23 | Th0masR0ss | jaggz|2: sources.list probably missing a repository |
| 03:16.06 | anonnumberanon | Trying to change shells, should I remove it completly in my package manager? Will I still have access to Synaptics Package Manager or will I have to use the terminal to get my new shell>? |
| 03:16.07 | jaggz|2 | http://vvcap.net/db/LDICbTdydfDqL6wMWtrp.htp |
| 03:16.26 | jaggz|2 | snapshot of my sources.. |
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| 03:24.40 | Evidlo | oss is already installed on debian right? |
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| 03:25.23 | dvs | Evidlo: not really. alsa is the default |
| 03:25.45 | Evidlo | dvs: doesnt alsa go through oss? |
| 03:26.01 | dvs | Evidlo: no, it's the other way around if anything. |
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| 03:26.25 | Evidlo | dvs: oh ok, is it very difficult to install oss? im having trouble with alsa and mpd |
| 03:26.46 | dvs | Evidlo: never tried. I'm happy with alsa |
| 03:27.16 | Coburn | oss is obsolete, Evidlo |
| 03:27.34 | Coburn | ALSA is the replacement |
| 03:27.44 | Coburn | oss only exists for legacy reasons |
| 03:27.48 | Coburn | afaik |
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| 03:29.53 | Evidlo | Coburn: well i was hoping the switch might fix the problem |
| 03:30.39 | Coburn | what version of debian are you using, evanvarvell |
| 03:30.40 | Coburn | oops |
| 03:30.42 | Coburn | Evidlo: * |
| 03:31.14 | Evidlo | Coburn: wheezy. im having the same problem on 2 systems with different hardware |
| 03:31.53 | Coburn | what exactly is the issue, Evidlo |
| 03:31.56 | Coburn | explain it |
| 03:32.17 | Coburn | ie. when I do X, it starts playing but then when it goes to load a file, it does Y |
| 03:32.56 | Evidlo | Coburn: one moment, i may have resolved the issue |
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| 03:33.51 | Coburn | users fixing their own issues. that's great :D |
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| 03:37.05 | mumpitzel | !tell Evidlo about oss4 |
| 03:38.27 | Evidlo | Coburn: actually the problem is still there |
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| 03:38.49 | Coburn | what exactly is the issue? |
| 03:38.57 | Evidlo | Coburn: im running an mpd server, but the music stops about every minute with the message Underrun on ALSA device "default" |
| 03:38.57 | Coburn | buffer issues? choppy audio ? |
| 03:39.12 | Coburn | Alright |
| 03:39.21 | Coburn | Might need to increase the buffer |
| 03:39.32 | Coburn | it means it's trying to get more than the card can handle |
| 03:40.56 | Evidlo | Coburn: there is a buffer_time option in mpd. i played with it but couldnt get any improvements |
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| 03:41.41 | Coburn | did you restart mpd after your changes, Evidlo? |
| 03:41.48 | Evidlo | Coburn: yes |
| 03:41.48 | Coburn | also, what make and model of yoru sound card |
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| 03:42.49 | Evidlo | Coburn: Intel Corporation 82801CA/CAM AC'97 Audio Controller |
| 03:43.25 | Coburn | wow |
| 03:43.29 | Coburn | that's anicent |
| 03:43.48 | Coburn | i have a socket 478 mobo with that chipset on it |
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| 03:44.10 | Evidlo | this is running on thinkpad a30 |
| 03:44.54 | mumpitzel | you sure it's not the CPU getting overtaxed and skipping? |
| 03:45.46 | Evidlo | im not sure of anything |
| 03:46.06 | Evidlo | htop shows a steady 53% usage |
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| 03:46.35 | Evidlo | well, not steady, but around 50 |
| 03:47.03 | Coburn | Evidlo: can do you this |
| 03:47.22 | Coburn | sudo grep -i 'underrun' /var/log/syslog |
| 03:47.32 | Coburn | and see if it comes up in syslog |
| 03:47.43 | Coburn | it could be a issue with intel's own h/w |
| 03:48.22 | Evidlo | Coburn: nothing |
| 03:48.48 | Coburn | check 'dmesg | tail' |
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| 03:50.26 | Evidlo | Coburn: i have one message about Samba. My music is mounted via samba share |
| 03:50.27 | Evidlo | CIFS VFS: server 192.168.1.100 of type Samba 3.0.28a-apple returned unexpected error on SMB posix open, disabling posix open support. Check if server update available. |
| 03:50.50 | Evidlo | but i have multiple underrun messages in /var/log/mpd/mpd.log |
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| 03:51.14 | Coburn | Okay, it could be that the music share gets borked for a minute |
| 03:51.22 | Coburn | and mpd messes up. |
| 03:51.33 | Coburn | what if you copy a few files locally? |
| 03:51.38 | Coburn | does mpd mess up then |
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| 03:52.35 | Evidlo | Coburn: it happens inconsistently, sometimes every 5 mins, sometimes several times a minute |
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| 03:53.01 | Evidlo | so ill try that, it just takes a few minutes to get the error sometimes |
| 03:53.06 | Coburn | ok |
| 03:53.16 | Coburn | it could be something weird on your music host |
| 03:53.25 | Coburn | maybe your apple is eating the wrong thing |
| 03:53.27 | Coburn | :P |
| 03:55.04 | moof2 | like a worm? |
| 03:55.26 | Evidlo | the host is actually an Apple |
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| 03:56.33 | Coburn | Apple... |
| 03:56.41 | Coburn | shakes his head |
| 03:56.59 | Coburn | Not going to say anything about that company |
| 03:57.11 | Evidlo | wasnt my purchase |
| 03:57.15 | absentia | hi .. wow... tons of people... quick question -- I have a debian box (not sure the os, I can get that, if it matters) -- I want to run some VMs or something -- so I can put my web server into that ... and limit the amount of ram it can use and perhaps have the host machine protected against web exploits. DOES or... WHAT DOES... debian offer to allow this? |
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| 03:57.50 | th0r | absentia, virtualbox? |
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| 03:58.01 | ectospasm | absentia: or qemu/kvm, or Xen |
| 03:58.06 | rjsalts | absentia: I'd also look at lxc |
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| 03:58.53 | absentia | 5 different answers... I've heard of Xen ... never heard of lxc or kvm... not sure qemu is powerful enough. |
| 03:59.10 | moof2 | it's a good bit of work to prepare for any of these, not the least of which is learning them |
| 03:59.25 | absentia | I have a debian bx... 4GB ram, 2 cquad core cpus... not a big box.. but probably good enough. so, I could run xen on that to run a vm... |
| 03:59.41 | rjsalts | absentia: yes |
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| 03:59.58 | absentia | well, I come from a solaris background... although that was many moons ago.. and at the time I left, setting up a virtual (slice? domain?) was trivial. it's too bad linux doesn't ahve the same. |
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| 04:00.05 | absentia | any recommendation of the best one? |
| 04:00.24 | moof2 | I've only ever used one |
| 04:00.31 | moof2 | so, no, I can't compare |
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| 04:01.13 | rjsalts | absentia: lxc is like zones, the others are full virtualization or paravirtualization systems |
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| 04:01.18 | moof2 | also the definition of "best" isn't specified |
| 04:01.28 | absentia | subjective, still... |
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| 04:01.39 | th0r | virtualbox is harder to spell |
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| 04:01.48 | absentia | ah, ok... I'll look into lxc first. ya, zones.. for solaris. |
| 04:01.52 | ectospasm | just 'cuz it's longer |
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| 04:02.10 | Evidlo | Coburn: testing now |
| 04:02.39 | rjsalts | absentia: keep in mind that with lxc all your processes still share a kernel, even if userspace is isolated |
| 04:03.28 | Evidlo | Coburn: just got it again |
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| 04:06.48 | Evidlo | Coburn: any other ideas? |
| 04:07.03 | moof2 | absentia run this: dpkg -s libc6 | grep Version |
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| 04:08.10 | absentia | Version: 2.11.3-4 |
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| 04:08.27 | moof2 | thanks... let's see... |
| 04:08.39 | moof2 | , v libc6 |
| 04:08.40 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38; jessie: 2.17-3; sid: 2.17-6 |
| 04:09.07 | moof2 | ahh, I think you're running squeeze |
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| 04:10.11 | absentia | debian 6.0.7 |
| 04:10.15 | jmarsden | moof2: lsb_release -cs should confirm that |
| 04:10.55 | Evidlo | Coburn dont abandon me! |
| 04:10.57 | absentia | don't laugh.. I was running enigma up until recently. |
| 04:11.20 | absentia | (redhat) |
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| 04:11.48 | moof2 | what had you decide to move to debian? |
| 04:11.53 | absentia | one of THE most incompatible linux ever made... 7.2 (Enigma), October 22, 2001 (Linux 2.4.7-10, Linux 2.4.9-21smp) |
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| 04:13.07 | absentia | hard drive failed... got the new one came with new os. when I was using linux, I chose suse linux... for myself, I always only ran freebsd. now I don't give a damn anymore. just got a free upgrade on my colo for being such a good little customer... came with debian 6.0.7 |
| 04:13.35 | absentia | just trying to figure out which virtualization I could use to isolate the web server... as that seems to be the only thing that has caused issues in 10 years of running the box. |
| 04:13.48 | absentia | of course, a poor celeron w/ 256MB ram didn't take too much to knock it over. |
| 04:13.55 | moof2 | oh? is this a remote? |
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| 04:14.34 | absentia | ya. been running remote for years... haven't had my own stuff since the 90s. just not worth it anymore |
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| 04:15.04 | _spook_ | $log |
| 04:15.09 | _spook_ | this is the box |
| 04:16.16 | absentia | coming into irc was a good way to get your box scanned, etc. just got and get... tired of constant web slamming. |
| 04:18.15 | moof2 | since it's remote, some precautions are due to keep it going... do you have a serial console on it? |
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| 04:20.31 | Coburn | Evidlo: I'm here |
| 04:20.44 | Coburn | Sorry, I had to step out, sanity buffer was nearing a underrun |
| 04:21.00 | Evidlo | anyways, it wasnt a network issue |
| 04:21.09 | Evidlo | ive tried this: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gaming-multimedia-entertainment/160406-all-sound-broken-alsa-underrun.html |
| 04:21.31 | Evidlo | still waiting for the error |
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| 04:25.13 | moof2 | absentia, if no serial console, how do you go about choosing which kernel to boot? some of the virtualization choices involve running a specific kernel |
| 04:25.14 | Evidlo | Coburn: ok that didnt work |
| 04:25.46 | Coburn | Evidlo: did you reboot? |
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| 04:26.11 | Evidlo | Coburn: no. i just restarted mpd |
| 04:26.25 | Coburn | hmmm |
| 04:26.44 | Coburn | so the issue continues even when you have files local (ie. on hdd) |
| 04:26.52 | Evidlo | yes |
| 04:26.53 | tapout | the upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, is it nearly fail-safe for remote? |
| 04:27.12 | Evidlo | Coburn: maybe i should try another sound server now? |
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| 04:27.27 | Evidlo | i heard someone used jackd and fixed the problem |
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| 04:27.43 | Evidlo | i also found this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2010/11/msg00931.html |
| 04:27.48 | Evidlo | but i have no idea whats going on |
| 04:28.10 | ectospasm | tapout: I've done it remotely, but the original system was a barebones VPS install, so there wasn't much to break. |
| 04:28.31 | ectospasm | ...and then again that was before Wheezy became stable |
| 04:28.54 | absentia | ok, lxc has no way to limit memory unless I turn on an experimental kernal config... still, the proceses share the same kernel, so a kernel exploit = system exploit. |
| 04:29.05 | absentia | xen requires hosted oses to work with xen... |
| 04:29.09 | absentia | seems like kvm is the way to go |
| 04:29.56 | absentia | I just want to run a main debian and try to isolate the web process... but if I could get a decent virtualization -- I might choose another os (freebsd? who knows) ... to host the web service. |
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| 04:30.16 | _spook_ | $bg |
| 04:30.25 | moof2 | curious, why do you need virtualization? |
| 04:30.51 | moof2 | does your cpu support hardware virtualization? |
| 04:31.08 | absentia | not sure.. how can I tell? I assume it's a recent cpu. |
| 04:31.12 | mumpitzel | cause he is under the mistaken belief virtualization is a sandbox |
| 04:31.18 | mumpitzel | absentia: which cpu is it? |
| 04:31.44 | absentia | is there a way to get the make/model? lscpu? |
| 04:31.50 | absentia | mum: is it not? |
| 04:31.57 | moof2 | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 04:31.59 | mumpitzel | cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 04:32.26 | absentia | what's he relevant line? |
| 04:32.33 | mumpitzel | Model name |
| 04:32.38 | mumpitzel | *model |
| 04:33.16 | absentia | model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 5148 @ 2.33GHz |
| 04:33.46 | Coburn | Evidlo: Can you explain to me exactly what your MPD setup is doing? |
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| 04:33.49 | mumpitzel | http://ark.intel.com/de/products/27223/Intel-Xeon-Processor-LV-5148-4M-Cache-2_33-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB yes it has Vt-x |
| 04:34.03 | Coburn | Ie... does it take music from your apple, then streams it or what |
| 04:34.08 | Coburn | I'm confused, or I'm derping |
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| 04:34.34 | Evidlo | Coburn: the music freezes around .5-2 seconds and the error is shown in /var/log/mpd/mpd.log |
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| 04:34.50 | Evidlo | the music freezes for about* |
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| 04:38.32 | Coburn | I'm tapped of ideas to be honest |
| 04:38.48 | Coburn | I don't have an answer |
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| 04:40.58 | dondelelcaro | Evidlo: can you use a paste site to show us the log? |
| 04:41.19 | dondelelcaro | (or point me to the URL if you did it already; a cursory glance through scrollback didn't show it) |
| 04:41.29 | Evidlo | dondelelcaro: all thats show is "alsa: Underrun on ALSA device "hw:0,0"" |
| 04:41.32 | Evidlo | shown* |
| 04:41.48 | absentia | zones... for solaris... that was the tech. miss that. |
| 04:41.56 | dondelelcaro | Evidlo: ah, ok. what type of soundcard is this? Are you running pulseaudio or something else? |
| 04:42.30 | Evidlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:42.37 | Coburn | dondelelcaro: intergrated audio |
| 04:42.47 | Coburn | if anything... i'd say to use a USB audio card |
| 04:42.51 | Coburn | just a cheapie |
| 04:43.03 | dondelelcaro | Evidlo: hrm. yeah, the AC97 is an oldie, but it should work just fine |
| 04:43.15 | dondelelcaro | Evidlo: what does your /etc/mpd.conf look like? |
| 04:43.42 | Evidlo | dondelelcaro: http://www.rafb.me/results/akM2Iu31.html |
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| 04:44.21 | Evidlo | dondelelcaro: ignore period_time and buffer_time, those have been removed |
| 04:44.31 | dondelelcaro | Evidlo: for starters, comment out everything but the type |
| 04:44.43 | RigidWig | how does one select two files, not by regular expression or everything, but just literally type out multiple files? for example "cp file1 + file2 /var/foo" |
| 04:45.00 | dondelelcaro | Evidlo: and I'd also comment out the icecast temporarily, just for testing |
| 04:45.23 | absentia | thanks. ggod night. |
| 04:45.25 | dondelelcaro | RigidWig: not sure I understand what you mean; you can just cp file1 file2 /var/foo |
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| 04:47.41 | moof2 | RigidWig, to see how this works, look at man cp... then, the wildcards like * and ? are handled by the shell, cp never sees them, what it does see is an expanded command line |
| 04:47.52 | Evidlo | dondelelcaro: mpd requires "name" so i added it |
| 04:48.09 | dondelelcaro | Evidlo: right |
| 04:48.32 | Coburn | dondelelcaro: cp {file1,file2,file3} /put/this/crap/somewhere |
| 04:48.38 | Coburn | that's how you do it |
| 04:48.40 | Coburn | :) |
| 04:48.46 | ectospasm | RigidWig: cp file1 file2 [..fileN] /dest/dir |
| 04:49.09 | ectospasm | RigidWig: last parameter must be a directory, if multiple files are passed to cp |
| 04:49.16 | dondelelcaro | Coburn: that's no differen than what I said. {} gets parsed by the shell |
| 04:49.23 | moof2 | if cp sees more than two parameters, the last one must be a dir |
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| 04:50.37 | ectospasm | Coburn: your method (using braces) is harder to read, and is forcing the shell to do processing unnecessarily. |
| 04:50.42 | Evidlo | dondelelcaro: alright im testing now |
| 04:51.10 | Coburn | well, it's ebtter when I do tars |
| 04:51.34 | Coburn | tar cvJpf {home,etc,var,....} /tmp/backup-to-download.tar.xz |
| 04:51.53 | Coburn | I have the cycles, why not use them :P |
| 04:51.56 | ectospasm | that doesn't look right. |
| 04:52.09 | ectospasm | the parameter after f has to be the tarball name, IIRC |
| 04:53.01 | ectospasm | if you did tar cvJpf /tmp/backup-to-download.tar.xz /{home,etc,var,....} I'd agree more with it |
| 04:53.24 | ectospasm | but this is getting OT now |
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| 04:56.43 | moof2 | what;s the executable for .xz? |
| 04:57.43 | elkingrey | I'd like to get backports for free-civ. The current version I've got in synaptic is outdated. How can I get the newest stable of free-civ available in my synaptic? |
| 04:57.48 | Evidlo | dondelelcaro: Coburn: hmm i havent gotten the error for almost 10 minutes |
| 04:57.48 | ectospasm | moof2: xz, apparently |
| 04:58.06 | Evidlo | maybe it was the shoutcast thing? |
| 04:58.57 | moof2 | and tar's shortcut is J? |
| 04:59.03 | dondelelcaro | Evidlo: could be, or it could be the other settings for alsa |
| 04:59.13 | Evidlo | dondelelcaro: also my cpu usage is down like 40% |
| 04:59.45 | mumpitzel | !tell elkingrey about ssb |
| 04:59.56 | mumpitzel | elkingrey: you need to do your own backport |
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| 05:00.12 | Coburn | ssb? super smash brothers? |
| 05:00.17 | moof2 | elkingrey, is it one of these: |
| 05:00.25 | moof2 | , v free-civ |
| 05:00.26 | judd | No package named 'free-civ' was found in i386. |
| 05:01.11 | moof2 | what's the correct package name? |
| 05:01.14 | mumpitzel | moof2: freeciv-client-gtk |
| 05:01.31 | moof2 | , v freeciv-client-gtk |
| 05:01.32 | judd | Package: freeciv-client-gtk on i386 -- squeeze: 2.2.1-1; jessie: 2.3.2-1; sid: 2.3.2-1; wheezy: 2.3.2-1 |
| 05:02.14 | moof2 | elkingrey, one of those? |
| 05:02.39 | elkingrey | no, I need 2.3.4 |
| 05:02.52 | moof2 | which is not packaged... |
| 05:03.01 | elkingrey | ahh well. Thanks anyways |
| 05:03.08 | ectospasm | elkingrey: it may be in experimental |
| 05:03.12 | moof2 | you can compile it in your home dir |
| 05:03.22 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell elkingrey -about experimental |
| 05:03.30 | moof2 | ectospasm, judd would have said so |
| 05:03.45 | ectospasm | moof2: yep, you're right. Didn't think of that. |
| 05:03.52 | moof2 | unless they renamed the package |
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| 05:07.24 | _blackjack_ | hello i have a question, i scanned my own server and it has like a particular port that i notice. "646/tcp filtered ldp" ... is that a bad thing? |
| 05:07.34 | _blackjack_ | im on a default install |
| 05:07.36 | kseifried | pd = cups |
| 05:07.46 | kseifried | filtered = .. well.. filtered |
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| 05:08.33 | kseifried | _blackjack_, you could set it to DROP instead of REJECT if you wanna be extra paranoid |
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| 05:10.12 | moof2 | _blackjack_, what would you consider "a bad thing"? |
| 05:11.02 | moof2 | do you have an internal net? |
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| 05:11.42 | _blackjack_ | moof2: i mean, should i turn it off? |
| 05:11.50 | _blackjack_ | or i could leave it open as its essential |
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| 05:12.22 | moof2 | it might not be essential, or do you consider printing essential? (also printing from elsewhere in your net) |
| 05:12.29 | moof2 | do you have an internal net? |
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| 05:14.17 | moof2 | hmm, I don't have 646 in /etc/services |
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| 05:15.13 | kseifried | moof2: that is odd. lpd is old as dirt |
| 05:15.45 | moof2 | yeah, I would have thought the port number was lower... |
| 05:16.09 | moof2 | it |
| 05:16.19 | moof2 | has always been 646? |
| 05:17.43 | kseifried | yah |
| 05:18.21 | kseifried | er that's ldp. I suck at typing |
| 05:18.21 | mumpitzel | lpd is 515 |
| 05:18.43 | mumpitzel | don't you mean LDAP? which is 636 |
| 05:19.25 | moof2 | he might have mistyped the port the scan result showed |
| 05:19.38 | moof2 | what's ldp? |
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| 05:23.47 | kseifried | mpls goodness apparently |
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| 05:24.40 | Evidlo | Coburn: i disabled the icecast output and it seems to have fixed it |
| 05:24.48 | Evidlo | no underruns for the last half hour |
| 05:25.09 | Coburn | good work |
| 05:25.36 | Evidlo | though i kinda liked that feature :| |
| 05:27.20 | Evidlo | Coburn: and it only took me 2.5 hours of changing random settings and restart mpd |
| 05:27.45 | moof2 | glad it wasn't 2.5 weeks :) |
| 05:27.46 | anonnumberanon | Is it possible to save my keyboard shortcuts I am removing Gnome to install Xfce. ? |
| 05:27.56 | Evidlo | im going to sleep now |
| 05:28.02 | Evidlo | goodnight everyone and thanks for the help |
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| 05:29.56 | ectospasm | anonnumberanon: not that I know of, unless you use the same window manager for both |
| 05:30.35 | ectospasm | anonnumberanon: (for instance, when I switched from GNOME3 Classic to Xfce my key bindings transferred because I was using XMonad as my wm) |
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| 05:34.08 | moof2 | anonnumberanon: maybe there's a way to get gnome to display all your key bindings and you could somehow capture that (as a photo of a window, last resort) so you could have them at least |
| 05:34.57 | moof2 | well last LAST resort is pen/paper |
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| 05:36.33 | anonnumberanon | moof2 yes moof I can take a picture, I was just wandering if that would be a common configuration file that would be the same between desktop environments |
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| 05:37.41 | ectospasm | anonnumberanon: there would not be one, being different DEs. |
| 05:37.58 | anonnumberanon | interdasting |
| 05:38.55 | moof2 | you could write a parser that takes the gnome keybindings and produce (whatever) keybindings |
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| 05:39.19 | moof2 | if (whatever) changes, that would be another parser |
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| 05:40.36 | ectospasm | anonnumberanon: you'd probably need something to extract the keybindings from dconf or gconf or whatever GNOME3 calls it now |
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| 05:41.24 | anonnumberanon | I have 7 shortcuts it's not too bad |
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| 05:41.43 | moof2 | are the keybindings you want the ones you set? |
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| 05:41.53 | moof2 | and not others? |
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| 05:42.07 | anonnumberanon | Yes only the ones that I set. |
| 05:42.25 | moof2 | well 7 shortcuts probably doesn't deserve you writing a parser |
| 05:42.39 | anonnumberanon | Because this is so complicated that I like being able to fall back onto my shortcuts. |
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| 05:45.05 | anonnumberanon | I hope Gnome3 hasn't damaged my Wheezy install as I'd like to start from fresh with Xfce and I have had a lot of problems while messing with autoremove some time ago. |
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| 06:15.31 | tkl | Hi |
| 06:16.28 | tkl | Is there anybody who can tell me if Icedove get´s 17 in the next time? |
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| 06:17.39 | tapout | anyone know what term you need to see the UTF-8 characters properly? |
| 06:18.50 | ectospasm | tapout: I think a bunch of terminal emulators support UTF-8. I use rxvt-unicode-256 |
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| 06:19.26 | tapout | i'm using xterm and i don't see them properly... unless they are all supposed to be the a's from french |
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| 06:20.23 | ectospasm | tapout: I dunno, I always found xterm to be fugly |
| 06:20.27 | mumpitze1 | !tell tapout about locale |
| 06:20.44 | mumpitze1 | !tell tapout about locales |
| 06:20.46 | tapout | what's the best term? |
| 06:20.51 | mumpitze1 | tapout: and there choose the UTF8 one only |
| 06:20.58 | mumpitze1 | !best |
| 06:20.59 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 06:21.15 | mumpitze1 | tapout: there never, really NEVER is a "best" of anything |
| 06:21.38 | mumpitze1 | tapout: what is your currentl $LANG? |
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| 06:22.25 | SpeedyG | there's always a 'best' of anything, but the problem with that is that it's in the eye of the beholder ^_^ |
| 06:22.41 | SpeedyG | 'you' define what's best for you... but don't push it upon someone else :) |
| 06:22.44 | tapout | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
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| 06:25.43 | rwp | tapout, xterm works fine with UTF-8. What font are you using? You need an iso10646 font to support UTF-8. |
| 06:27.31 | rwp | tapout, I am using -efont-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1 for example with xfonts-efont-unicode and xfonts-efont-unicode-ib installed. |
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| 06:30.55 | tapout | Consolas 9pt |
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| 06:40.32 | ReadingHackspace | Im trying to setup a pxe entry for booting the debian dvd over the network, the following entry is modified from the ubuntu entry and says its unable to mount a cd on run |
| 06:40.32 | ReadingHackspace | APPEND boot=casper netboot=nfs nfsroot=178.238.150.204:/srv/install/Debian/amd64 initrd=Debian/amd64/initrd.gz |
| 06:40.40 | ReadingHackspace | Anyone see anythign wrong ?\ |
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| 06:42.53 | ectospasm | ReadingHackspace: why are you using casper? |
| 06:43.15 | ReadingHackspace | it was modified from the ubuntu entry, im just working from examples atm |
| 06:43.40 | ReadingHackspace | i have the iso extracted to /srv/Debian/amd64 |
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| 06:43.56 | ectospasm | ReadingHackspace: try this: https://eldon.me/?p=50 |
| 06:44.09 | ectospasm | (that's my personal blog where I set up a Debian PXE server) |
| 06:44.30 | ReadingHackspace | thats for the netboot installer right ?\ |
| 06:45.29 | ReadingHackspace | ectospasm, im trying to get the installer to recoginize the nfs drive as a cd and install from that |
| 06:45.35 | ReadingHackspace | rarther then download all the files each install |
| 06:45.43 | ReadingHackspace | Worked fine with ubuntu =/ |
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| 06:46.09 | ectospasm | ReadingHackspace: it is for the netboot installer... my method has a local mirror (which I already had in place) |
| 06:46.49 | ectospasm | if anything you can download the netboot ISO, loop mount it on your PXE server, and point it to that |
| 06:47.00 | Logos01 | Howdy folks. I'm working on setting up a cobbler server to do pxe-booting of debian-7.1.0-amd64 ... I imported from the DVD (I cat'd the DVD-1,2, &3 into a single iso and rsync'd it). |
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| 06:47.31 | Logos01 | Sounds like I may be in a similar place to ReadingHackspace ... the installer comes up but aborts due to no CD-ROM. |
| 06:47.44 | ReadingHackspace | Logos01, Thats the issue! :D |
| 06:48.45 | ReadingHackspace | mhm it isnt mounting the nfs share aparantly |
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| 06:50.56 | Logos01 | Is this rsync'able? http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/ |
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| 06:51.17 | ReadingHackspace | Mhm. cant mount the thing manualy either, no network |
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| 06:52.14 | Logos01 | That would be a negative. Anyone have a suggestion for this? |
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| 06:52.32 | ectospasm | I dunno, I used tftp, not nfs |
| 06:52.37 | error3_ | hey, do you know if a kernel package upgrade for wheezy is planed? |
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| 06:52.56 | ectospasm | error3_: when it's available it will be in backports |
| 06:53.07 | error3_ | oh yeah... correct |
| 06:53.11 | error3_ | thanks :) |
| 06:53.14 | ectospasm | error3_: by "kernel package upgrade" I assume you mean something other than 3.2 |
| 06:53.28 | error3_ | well no |
| 06:53.34 | error3_ | I mean minor upgrade |
| 06:53.53 | error3_ | like 3.2.47 |
| 06:54.04 | error3_ | where we are at 3.2.41 for example |
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| 06:57.48 | ectospasm | once it gets tested by the devs, and any issues get pushed out... you might have to look at the Debian kernel dev list for that. |
| 06:58.06 | error3_ | mm good idea, thx |
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| 06:58.54 | ReadingHackspace | Logos01, I think i know why it doesn't mount the nfs |
| 06:58.55 | moof2 | is waldi still the kernel guy (aka bastian blank)? |
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| 07:01.11 | moof2 | error3_, what;s in 3.2.47 that would solve a problem you have (or improve a situation)? |
| 07:01.25 | error3_ | well it seems I am experiencing some sort of ext4 corruption |
| 07:01.53 | error3_ | however, I don't find that much information on the net... By looking at the kernel changelog, I just hope that this problem is solved somewhere |
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| 07:02.33 | moof2 | ok, does fsck fix the filesystem? |
| 07:02.37 | error3_ | it's not bad sectors, I've checked the disk and re-purchase some new one, I still randomly have an filesystem correction error |
| 07:03.01 | ectospasm | what's the actual error? |
| 07:03.38 | moof2 | is the new disk in service? |
| 07:03.47 | error3_ | things like that htree_dirblock_to_tree:587: inode 20971803: block 83894316 |
| 07:03.53 | The-Compiler | I installed Debian as a guest in a Virtualbox VM, however when I try to start X I get a black screen, and then weird graphic corruptions (missing letters, green upside-down question marks) in the text console, also when I press Ctrl+C in tty1 where X runs I get a segfault in X it seems... what's going on there? Xorg.0.log: http://sprunge.us/eEMd |
| 07:04.05 | error3_ | the new disks are in service (it's a software raid1) |
| 07:04.25 | error3_ | and I'm still in the process of trying to get back my photos with photorec |
| 07:04.37 | error3_ | :/ |
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| 07:05.39 | error3_ | previously I had bad errors with journal commit I/O error |
| 07:05.42 | moof2 | The-Compiler, just curious here... does the rest of debian seem to work? |
| 07:05.52 | error3_ | it seemed it was related to errors=remount-ro option |
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| 07:06.29 | error3_ | oh and complete lines of error looks like more: htree_dirblock_to_tree:587: inode #2 |
| 07:06.32 | error3_ | 0971803: block 83894316: comm find: bad entry in directory: rec_len % 4 != 0 - o |
| 07:06.34 | error3_ | ffset=1428(1428), inode=18612260, rec_len=12338, name_len=48 |
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| 07:10.03 | moof2 | how did you make the filesystems in the first place? |
| 07:10.38 | error3_ | I first build the raid1 array with mdadm and then create the fs with mkfs.ext4 |
| 07:10.51 | error3_ | with few options like order=journal to be sure not to lost data |
| 07:11.12 | moof2 | that sounds good... oh well, was worth a shot |
| 07:11.16 | error3_ | I just run a fdupes to remove duplicates on my disk, and just right now a new error appeared... |
| 07:11.24 | error3_ | BD2: Spotted dirty metadata buffer (dev = md0, blocknr = 0). There's a risk of filesystem corruption in case of system crash. |
| 07:11.29 | error3_ | +J |
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| 07:13.01 | error3_ | I don't know if that can be related to http://lwn.net/Articles/520884/ ... |
| 07:13.18 | error3_ | or http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTIxNDQ |
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| 07:15.57 | error3_ | moof2: but before having reinstalling those FS on the new disk, I had resized the previous disks, which i thought was the reason of the corruption |
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| 07:16.56 | martinfletcher_ | hello everyone |
| 07:17.09 | error3_ | I really don't know what to do. |
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| 07:17.35 | ectospasm | error3_: you could try ext3, which is more mature. |
| 07:17.41 | martinfletcher_ | i am in need of some help with setting up a samba file server on debian with AD 2008 integration |
| 07:17.49 | martinfletcher_ | can anyone help me at all? |
| 07:18.35 | nonconvergent | martinfletcher_: ask an actual question because you want your hand held...no. |
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| 07:19.03 | error3_ | ectospasm: yeah... maybe I should |
| 07:19.07 | martinfletcher_ | ok, this is what i have done so far |
| 07:19.35 | nonconvergent | Read the documentation. Try something. If you get stuck, then provide us with information and we'll help if we can. That's the best way to get results. |
| 07:19.36 | martinfletcher_ | i have installed krb5-{user,config} and configured it so that i can gain a valid ticket from the AD 2008 server |
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| 07:20.33 | Logos01 | Hrm... next issue |
| 07:20.49 | Logos01 | Why is my netbooting image not able to pull from my local apt-mirror? |
| 07:20.55 | martinfletcher_ | samba has been configured (although i am not sure that i have this just right), and i have joined the domain using net ads join -U (admin username) |
| 07:21.21 | nonconvergent | Logos01: because you misconfigured it...why do you need one? |
| 07:21.21 | martinfletcher_ | i rebooted my machine and now am unable to log back in |
| 07:21.38 | martinfletcher_ | i think that i may have a problem with winbind/pam |
| 07:21.38 | Logos01 | nonconvergent: 'cause the goal is to do net installation using my local mirror? |
| 07:22.08 | Logos01 | Thing is when I wget from a server on the same IP as the pxe-booting machine, it gets the Release file just fine... |
| 07:22.48 | martinfletcher_ | i have followed countless online tutorials, read the samba/debian docs and dont seem to be able to get something working |
| 07:23.24 | Logos01 | installer is looking at http://nas/repo/ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-amd64/Release |
| 07:23.57 | Logos01 | I can browse to that alright and if I go to one of my CentOS VMs (hosted on the same subnet as the PXE-booting debian test VM) it can wget the file okay |
| 07:24.12 | Coburn | what's the error |
| 07:24.29 | Logos01 | "wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found" |
| 07:24.37 | Logos01 | That can't be right though. |
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| 07:25.36 | martinfletcher_ | can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 07:29.07 | Logos01 | ... dropped myself into the TTY #2 (CTRL-ALT-F2) and ran the wget |
| 07:29.09 | Logos01 | And it worked. |
| 07:29.18 | Logos01 | So the deb-test VM *IS* wgetting fine. |
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| 07:29.26 | Logos01 | But for some reason the installer can't? |
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| 07:32.01 | rdz | is this the right channel to ask about Debian packaging? |
| 07:32.42 | jargon | rdz: are you trying to install a package or are you a package maintainer or are you trying to become a package maintainer? |
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| 07:35.30 | ectospasm | Logos01: why aren't you using tftp? |
| 07:35.30 | ectospasm | Logos01: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478 |
| 07:35.30 | ectospasm | (that link was on my blog post, but not entirely obvious because of a deficiency in my blog's current theme) |
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| 07:35.31 | jargon | rdz: are you trying to install a package or are you a package maintainer or are you trying to become a package maintainer? |
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| 07:35.31 | rdz | jargon, i'm already a package maintainer, but this is about creating/modifying a package for private use |
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| 07:35.41 | rdz | jargon, got your message, despite the netsplit |
| 07:35.42 | jargon | rdz: i see |
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| 07:36.27 | jargon | rdz: best i can do is give you a list of debian irc channels: http://wiki.debian.org/IRC i don't know if people in here can help, but why not just go ahead and ask your question? |
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| 07:37.33 | Logos01 | ectospasm: Because I am using tftp |
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| 07:37.49 | Logos01 | ectospasm: It's a cobbler PXE-boot |
| 07:37.49 | Logos01 | The netinstall image requires an http apt mirror to pull down from. |
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| 07:37.57 | Logos01 | I *have* an http apt mirror |
| 07:38.06 | ectospasm | rdz: see #debian-mentor on oftc |
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| 07:38.17 | rdz | jargon, ectospasm thanks |
| 07:38.23 | Logos01 | But for some reason the installer won't 'talk' to it. |
| 07:38.25 | rdz | i need to gather some more info first, i figured |
| 07:38.45 | Logos01 | TTY4 keeps showing me 404 errors |
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| 07:38.57 | jargon | rdz: no problem |
| 07:39.00 | ectospasm | Logos01: sounds like you don't have your paths set up properly on the apt-mirror |
| 07:39.06 | Logos01 | Except I do. |
| 07:39.18 | Logos01 | If I drop to TTY2 I can wget the file just fine. |
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| 07:39.25 | Logos01 | I can browse/navigate just fine. |
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| 07:39.41 | Logos01 | I'm using the apt-mirror script to pull down the repo mirror. |
| 07:39.47 | Logos01 | It's fully populated. |
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| 07:39.52 | ectospasm | Logos01: can you pastebin all of the errors you're getting? |
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| 07:40.03 | Logos01 | Ehh... I don't exactly have CNP here. |
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| 07:40.18 | ectospasm | you can't offload the log somehow? |
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| 07:40.35 | ectospasm | I dunno, I rarely encounter problems using debian-installer |
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| 07:40.48 | Logos01 | Using virt-manager to view the console over VNC |
| 07:40.49 | ectospasm | nor do I know what "cobbler" is in this situation. |
| 07:41.05 | Logos01 | ectospasm: cobbler is a provisioning tool for providing a PXE-booting environment. |
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| 07:41.59 | Logos01 | tl;dr version you loopback mount the installer ISO file and cobbler handles telling the PXE server what MAC addresses get what files served to them. |
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| 07:42.03 | Logos01 | So you can do unattended installs. |
| 07:42.17 | ectospasm | ...just configuring the pxeboot files seemed simple enough to me. I was able to add Debian, Fedora, and even a Win7 PXE target |
| 07:42.28 | Logos01 | That stuff is working just fine. |
| 07:42.42 | ectospasm | I guess cobbler provides the unattended parts |
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| 07:42.59 | Logos01 | ectospasm: It also allows you to specify it all per-system or per MAC range or per-IP range |
| 07:43.03 | ectospasm | I was planning on setting up unattended installs, but haven't found a need for it yet. |
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| 07:43.20 | Logos01 | This is a home test env so I like to wipe out and reinstall servers sometimes. |
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| 07:43.40 | Logos01 | For example I'm working on setting up a working Spacewalk-managed debian env. |
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| 07:43.51 | Logos01 | (cobbler is kinda part of the Spacewalk package.) |
| 07:43.58 | Logos01 | But I digress. |
| 07:44.18 | Logos01 | Anyhow, where I'm failing at is at the "Download installer components" step |
| 07:44.23 | Logos01 | It requires a mirror |
| 07:44.30 | Logos01 | I have a mirror... but it won't talk to it. |
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| 07:45.25 | ectospasm | Logos01: are you plugging in the hostname or the IP address of the mirror? I seem to remember something not working with the hostname |
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| 07:46.34 | Logos01 | I was using hostname. |
| 07:46.38 | Logos01 | I guess I can use IP |
| 07:46.51 | Logos01 | I mean... I just kicked off a debootstrap against my mirror and it's working... <_< |
| 07:47.11 | ectospasm | sounds like a problem in cobbler then |
| 07:47.14 | Logos01 | IP gives the same result. |
| 07:47.22 | Logos01 | This is well past any part of cobbler's involvement. |
| 07:47.49 | Logos01 | It's long since handed off onto the installer's initrd.gz/linux |
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| 07:48.32 | ectospasm | but cobbler may be initiating debian-installer differently |
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| 07:48.55 | ectospasm | you can try #cobbler to see if they're any help |
| 07:49.11 | Logos01 | They'd just send me here because it's part is "over" |
| 07:49.25 | Logos01 | cobbler only handles the PXE part |
| 07:49.29 | Logos01 | This is past PXE |
| 07:49.40 | Logos01 | What do you mean by "initiating debian-installer" ? |
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| 07:50.24 | ectospasm | it's obviously doing something different than your manual debootstrap |
| 07:50.47 | ectospasm | ...why can't you just use kickstart to do it? http://wiki.debian.org/AutomatedInstallation |
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| 07:51.55 | Logos01 | ectospasm: Because kickstart comes later. |
| 07:52.10 | Logos01 | This would be stuff done in preseed stage |
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| 07:52.22 | ectospasm | I still fail to see what cobbler adds here |
| 07:52.27 | Logos01 | Nothing whatsoever. |
| 07:52.40 | Logos01 | You can ignore the existence of cobbler altogether. |
| 07:52.52 | ectospasm | ...set up TFTP/PXE, have it start debian-installer, have that run kickstart. |
| 07:53.17 | Logos01 | ... |
| 07:53.21 | ectospasm | of course, you'd have to set up the DHCP server appropriately... I guess that's what cobbler is supposed to embody |
| 07:53.33 | ectospasm | ...one place to configure all of the PXE stuff |
| 07:53.41 | Logos01 | All cobbler does is handle pxe. |
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| 07:53.53 | Logos01 | That's it. |
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| 07:54.39 | ectospasm | I still need to see the full complement of 404 errors debian-installer gets |
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| 07:57.55 | Logos01 | Just found nc binary... gimme a few and I'll get the syslog up |
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| 08:05.34 | Logos01 | Don't know why but the ISO's nc wouldn't let me connect to ports opened w/ nc -l on other servers. |
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| 08:05.52 | Logos01 | Just tried using the ftp.us.debian.org mirror rather than my internal ... got past that stage. |
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| 08:05.59 | Logos01 | So something is very, very wrong here but I don't know what. |
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| 08:07.36 | ectospasm | impaktor: you have to disable secure boot, but you can boot Wheezy on a UEFI machine, I think |
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| 08:11.05 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell impaktor -about uefi |
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| 08:16.03 | martinfletcher_ | can anyone help me with an issue i have with setting up a samba file server on debian with server 2008 AD integration? |
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| 08:16.46 | ectospasm | !ask |
| 08:16.47 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 08:17.44 | moof2 | martinfletcher_, wht have you tried so far? |
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| 08:18.18 | Logos01 | ectospasm: I'm re-running apt-mirror on the off chance that this is just a bad file version or something. |
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| 08:18.45 | Logos01 | Of course... "Downloading 912 index files using 20 threads..." <-- that's gonna take a while |
| 08:18.52 | martinfletcher_ | moof2: i have followed the guide on the samba wiki (https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_&_Active_Directory#Authenticating_share_users_and_groups_against_active_directory) |
| 08:19.05 | martinfletcher_ | and also followed countless others with no avail |
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| 08:19.42 | moof2 | after you set that up, what's the first place where you notice something's not right? |
| 08:19.50 | martinfletcher_ | kerberos seems to work ok, i can get a ticket from the AD server and i have set up samba and joined the domain |
| 08:19.51 | ectospasm | Logos01: are you using apt-mirror? I think I was using debmirror to grab a partial mirror the last time I messed with my PXE setup |
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| 08:20.03 | Logos01 | I'm using apt-mirror yes |
| 08:20.14 | martinfletcher_ | after i joined the server to the domain, i rebooted, now i cannot get acces to server again |
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| 08:20.21 | martinfletcher_ | is this a pam issue maybe? |
| 08:20.24 | ectospasm | Logos01: not that it matters much, the mirroring tool should automatically detect and report problems with the hashes |
| 08:20.32 | Logos01 | It should, yes. |
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| 08:20.41 | Logos01 | "should" is a funny word in admin-land. :3 |
| 08:21.27 | Logos01 | Y'know, there was a time I was better w/ debian than I was with RHEL. And now? Now I admin RHEL servers for the gov't. Weep for me. <_< |
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| 08:22.29 | cast | at least they've moved past up2date. still, their package repos are sadly small |
| 08:22.42 | Logos01 | cast: heh. |
| 08:22.47 | cast | tries to yum install kdiff3 again |
| 08:22.49 | ectospasm | EPEL ftw! |
| 08:22.53 | Logos01 | I still have to deal w/ up2date |
| 08:23.00 | Logos01 | Thankfully less than I used to. |
| 08:23.14 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i really am stuck on this one |
| 08:23.55 | Logos01 | ectospasm: ... actually things have gone worse, not better, for me in that regard. Where I currently hang my hat we don't even have access to RHN Repos. |
| 08:23.58 | Logos01 | let alone EPEL. |
| 08:24.15 | ectospasm | yeesh |
| 08:24.16 | Logos01 | No repos at all. |
| 08:24.25 | cast | segregated network? |
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| 08:24.43 | Logos01 | I have three separate mutually exclusive VPNs I have to connect to as part of my workflow. |
| 08:24.54 | Logos01 | (All disallow split tunnelling) |
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| 08:25.42 | Logos01 | lxc + AppArmor for the win there though. |
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| 08:26.33 | moof2 | martinfletcher_, what logs are you watching on the client and the server to help you gain info? |
| 08:26.38 | Logos01 | ... 3.9GB needs to be downloaded. It's 0130... |
| 08:27.00 | Logos01 | I think the the distro is telling me to go to sleep now. I think I'm going to listen. |
| 08:27.21 | ectospasm | \o |
| 08:27.22 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, currently none... there are no loge being produced that i can see |
| 08:27.51 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i have lost access to the server due to a reboot after joioning the domain |
| 08:28.02 | Logos01 | ectospasm: If you're around the next time I butt my head on this I'll make sure I enable virsh serial console on the installer image. |
| 08:28.17 | Logos01 | Silly VNC disallowing CNP. <_< |
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| 08:28.30 | ectospasm | sounds like a design oversight |
| 08:28.36 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, its a new install of the server so not the end of the world about getting back on it, just need to get this file server up and running |
| 08:28.47 | silv3r_m00n | debian supports this kfreebsd kernel, does this mean i can switch between the kernels on my desktop ? |
| 08:29.20 | cast | silv3r_m00n: with a reinstall, yes |
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| 08:30.10 | ectospasm | silv3r_m00n: I think kfreebsd counts as a separate architecture |
| 08:30.25 | ectospasm | ...so you'd need kfreesd packages, and linux packages |
| 08:30.31 | ectospasm | that would probably get messy to support |
| 08:30.32 | silv3r_m00n | means a separate build ? |
| 08:30.46 | silv3r_m00n | what is this gnu userland ? |
| 08:30.59 | ectospasm | !gnu |
| 08:30.59 | dpkg | it has been said that gnu is a recursive acronym which stands for GNU's Not UNIX. The GNU project is dedicated to the creation of a 100% Free Software Operating System. http://www.gnu.org/ #gnu on irc.freenode.net. |
| 08:31.08 | silv3r_m00n | and userland ? |
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| 08:31.22 | ectospasm | silv3r_m00n: everything that isn't run in kernel space |
| 08:31.37 | silv3r_m00n | hmm |
| 08:32.08 | ectospasm | the "userland" in this case must match the kernel you're running |
| 08:32.26 | moof2 | martinfletcher_, first off, there are a lot of moving parts here... if you're trying to use them all at once, it will be hard to determine where the blockage is |
| 08:32.37 | ectospasm | so, you'd need a way to "know" you're using kfreebsd, so the it'd have the kfreebsd userland, etc. |
| 08:32.37 | martinfletcher_ | yeah |
| 08:32.40 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, yeah |
| 08:33.06 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i have kerberos configured, and can get a ticket from the AD server |
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| 08:33.26 | ectospasm | silv3r_m00n: so, probably a nontrivial way to do it |
| 08:33.36 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, any guidance on samba at all? |
| 08:33.59 | ectospasm | silv3r_m00n: one idea: have two different dual-booted systems, with common user-related disk partitions |
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| 08:34.20 | ectospasm | e.g., have both the linux and the kfreebsd systems have a common /home partition |
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| 08:39.35 | moof2 | not with the info you've provided so far. you gave a link with some steps you took, but no info about where you ended up, what log entries you've seen, what the output of any commands you've run, the tests you've performed at each step to verify functionality, or the results of those tests... |
| 08:40.01 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, my appologies |
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| 08:40.26 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i got the furthest with the samba link |
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| 08:40.45 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i testes kerberos with kinit, got the ticket successfully |
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| 08:41.36 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, testparm on smb.conf passed ok |
| 08:42.21 | thechef | How can I configure exim4 to only allow a set of users to receive mails from externally while the other should only be able to receive from locally? |
| 08:42.28 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, joined domain ok with net ads join -U administrator |
| 08:42.37 | martinfletcher_ | net ads testjoin |
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| 08:43.00 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, net ads testjoin passed |
| 08:43.24 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, |
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| 08:43.57 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, server now part of domain (can see it in active directory) |
| 08:44.18 | moof2 | ok, what can you do with that? |
| 08:44.43 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, what do you mean? |
| 08:45.00 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, wbinfo? |
| 08:46.17 | moof2 | if you've joined the domain, that sounds like success to me. |
| 08:46.30 | ectospasm | ...I think the trick is making that happen on reboot |
| 08:46.39 | martinfletcher_ | Mercury63D |
| 08:46.40 | ectospasm | ...if I've been following the thread properly |
| 08:46.52 | ectospasm | change that password (-; |
| 08:46.59 | martinfletcher_ | yeah lol |
| 08:47.32 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i need to be able to authenticate users through samba for file share auth |
| 08:47.56 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, also for local accounts on this box |
| 08:48.09 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, any other config needed? |
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| 08:49.58 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, wbinfo -u + wbinfo -g both provide the list of users and groups in AD |
| 08:50.02 | martinfletcher_ | clear |
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| 08:51.01 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, wbinfo -t administrator%password succeeded |
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| 08:51.57 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, when i try to login to the local machine (via terminal) I get login incorrect |
| 08:52.28 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, this is the first time i have done this type of thing, so appologes for my dumbness lol |
| 08:54.14 | moof2 | what is the authentication using for the passwd hash to compare with? |
| 08:54.42 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i understand that nsswitch.conf needs to have winbind aded to passwd and group? |
| 08:55.15 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, currently in nsswitch.conf: passwd: files |
| 08:55.36 | moof2 | so it's comparing to the unix shadow/passwd files? |
| 08:55.45 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, yes |
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| 08:56.29 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, sorry my mistake, it is passwd: compat, group: compat, shadow: compat |
| 08:56.49 | moof2 | you might need a file containing the samba passwords, which are not in the same form as the unix passwd hashes |
| 08:57.04 | moof2 | I've only done this part once |
| 08:57.12 | moof2 | and a long time ago... |
| 08:57.23 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, no worries |
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| 08:57.38 | moof2 | you have a different situation, but it looks like most of the infrastructure is working |
| 08:57.47 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, but would a samba passwd file be needed for AD auth? |
| 08:57.55 | moof2 | maybe |
| 08:58.07 | moof2 | you'd have to find out |
| 08:58.22 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, this is the part i am stuck on, can not find any info on the web at all |
| 08:58.54 | moof2 | in my situation, |
| 08:59.13 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i take it i should be able to log into the terminal as an AD user though |
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| 08:59.22 | moof2 | I got samba password auth working by using a file containing the smbpasswords |
| 08:59.39 | moof2 | can you try that and see? |
| 08:59.59 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, how would that map to AD? all user accounts/passwords need to be managed by the AD DC |
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| 09:02.09 | moof2 | what I mean is could you log into the terminal as an (AD: what is AD?) user? |
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| 09:02.20 | error3_ | (active directory?) |
| 09:02.22 | ectospasm | moof2: AD is Active Directory |
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| 09:02.27 | moof2 | DC is domain controller? oh, ok |
| 09:02.40 | ectospasm | ...M$'s answer to LDAP |
| 09:02.49 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, Active Directory, Domain Controller |
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| 09:03.54 | PaulePanter | Hi. Do you know why the versions in stable-security (17.0.7… for Iceweasel) or not listed at the package page? |
| 09:03.57 | PaulePanter | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=iceweasel |
| 09:04.03 | moof2 | probably the password would have to be stored in the AD, and in the form (not unix hash) accepted by the authentication |
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| 09:07.06 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, that passwords are stored in AD |
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| 09:07.35 | moof2 | in what form? |
| 09:07.37 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, this debian box is a member server of the domain |
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| 09:07.54 | martinfletcher_ | it would be the standard for for AD |
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| 09:09.14 | moof2 | try adding such a user |
| 09:09.20 | moof2 | then test with that user |
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| 09:11.08 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, just did that, i entered login in the terminal, username: DOMAIN\user1, password: password |
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| 09:12.11 | moof2 | ok, now try logging in with that user |
| 09:12.14 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i get the welcome screen (as with loging into terminal), but does not switch to the user just logged in, simply goes back to root |
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| 09:12.40 | moof2 | so this is a different result than login failed? |
| 09:12.42 | martinfletcher_ | logout |
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| 09:12.54 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, yeas |
| 09:13.26 | martinfletcher_ | after logging in as domain user, i stay logged in as root |
| 09:13.36 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, after logging in as domain user, i stay logged in as root |
| 09:13.42 | moof2 | it logs you in as root? |
| 09:15.10 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i am logged in as root in a terminal, i type 'login' |
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| 09:15.24 | error3_ | can't believe I had so much problem with ext4... and I really don't understand why I only have this problem with my raid1 |
| 09:15.42 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i then enter username: DOMAIN\username and password: password |
| 09:15.51 | error3_ | anyways... I'm currently in the process of splitting my raid in 2, converted one part in ext3, and copying the data... |
| 09:15.54 | error3_ | :/ |
| 09:16.10 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i then get the standard shell login message, but do not get logged in as that user, i stay as root |
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| 09:17.25 | moof2 | stay? so you were logged in as root before? |
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| 09:18.13 | moof2 | it does look like you're one step closer |
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| 09:21.34 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, yeas, i was logged in as root before, and i stay logged in as root after trying to login as a user provided by AD |
| 09:21.45 | martinfletcher_ | yes i am a step closer |
| 09:21.56 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, yes i am a step closer :) |
| 09:22.54 | moof2 | is this root login on a separate terminal? |
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| 09:23.37 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, no i got one terminal window open, logged in as root |
| 09:24.28 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i just tried getent passwd, and getent group. These both retrieve the AD users |
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| 09:24.51 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i tried getent passwd DOMAIN\username, and got nothing |
| 09:25.14 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, i tried getent passwd username (local), and got an entry |
| 09:26.04 | moof2 | it does sound like you're getting in, and immediately out |
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| 09:26.12 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, sorry, i forgot to escape the \, i did get a response for getent passwd DOMAIN\username |
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| 09:28.42 | Tumulte | Hello |
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| 09:29.31 | Tumulte | Where can I see my boot messages ? My GUI is gone, and I can't see the error |
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| 09:30.38 | TD | hi - i seem to have got a system on my hands that's got stuck somewhere between squeeze and wheezy. now apt-get upgrade barfs saying "libc6 depends libc-bin (=2.11.3-4) but 2.13-38 is installed" |
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| 09:30.47 | TD | which .... sounds bad. i don't want to accidentally hose my libc |
| 09:30.53 | TD | (by trying to fix this) |
| 09:30.56 | r4co0n | Hello. I've got a box with an apparently broken hdd here. SMARTs short self-test didn't complete in 30min. I want to recover as much of the data as possible, am currently booting from a live cd. Is a "dd if=brokendisk of=somefile" the right approach now or would you recommend another tool? Thx for reading.. |
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| 09:32.01 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, yeah its like i am logged in, the out straight away |
| 09:32.30 | moof2 | TD, pastebin your sources.list |
| 09:32.37 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, could this be a pam issue? i have not touched pam setup yet |
| 09:32.50 | TD | moof2: http://pastebin.com/LF79MVYZ |
| 09:32.51 | TD | thanks |
| 09:32.54 | TD | it's a linode VM |
| 09:32.56 | TD | oh, wait |
| 09:33.06 | TD | ok it's there |
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| 09:34.49 | moof2 | TD, you got surprised as "stable" changed a lot recently |
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| 09:35.04 | TD | right, due to the debian 7 release |
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| 09:35.17 | TD | the thing is i'm not quite sure what happened here and now it's stuck :( presumably, a partial upgrade. |
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| 09:35.25 | TD | shall i run "apt-get -f install" ? |
| 09:35.26 | moof2 | yes (well maybe you didn';t get surprised) |
| 09:36.40 | TD | ok i'll try it |
| 09:36.47 | moof2 | well let's see. do you want to complete the upgrade? |
| 09:37.00 | TD | i guess i have to at this point, so yes |
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| 09:37.08 | TD | also this is a mail server. so falling behind on security updates would be bad |
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| 09:37.14 | TD | apt-get -f install doesn't work either |
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| 09:37.23 | TD | it says "Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." |
| 09:37.24 | moof2 | wait, is it production? |
| 09:37.25 | TD | oh dear :( |
| 09:37.40 | TD | yes. well, a personal server. |
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| 09:37.48 | moof2 | sec. |
| 09:38.12 | beardy | 3 |
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| 09:39.10 | r4co0n | TD, for future sources.list: use the release name, e.g use wheezy and not stable, so you can willfully decide when to switch to the next major release. |
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| 09:39.24 | TD | yes, indeed. probably a good idea. |
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| 09:39.33 | Tumulte | hey again |
| 09:39.34 | TD | should i try putting it back to squeeze and seeing what happens? |
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| 09:40.10 | moof2 | so this server's only user is you? |
| 09:40.17 | TD | me and a few others. it's a mail server. |
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| 09:40.47 | TD | i'd rather not wipe it from scratch, if i can avoid it. i'd have to migrate the mail serving to a different server first if so. |
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| 09:41.01 | moof2 | ok... so you can try restoring from the backups you keep (other than the data) |
| 09:41.06 | Tumulte | So, still no display... Using nvidia proprietary stuff. First thing I'd like to get an error, but I think I haven't checked the proper logs |
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| 09:41.58 | TD | there are daily backups. however i don't know when this problem first started. |
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| 09:42.13 | TD | and there aren't ~infinite daily backups |
| 09:42.31 | TD | so ..... yeah. that's why i'm seeking help from debian experts :/ |
| 09:42.35 | moof2 | or you can try upgrading, and once completed, you would have to do some work to get everything working the way it was |
| 09:43.03 | TD | that's fine. |
| 09:43.04 | martinfletcher_ | moof2, any suggestions? |
| 09:44.13 | TD | but how do I do the upgrade? |
| 09:44.43 | TD | given that apt appears to be corrupted in some way |
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| 09:45.29 | moof2 | martinfletcher_, to continue from this point, I'd have to get totally involved with each of the moving parts you have going; I can't do that in one sittign |
| 09:45.46 | r4co0n | TD, with the first upgrade after wheezy release your system got mixed packages, use a backup earlier then that, if in doubt, earlier than wheezy release |
| 09:46.12 | moof2 | TD, so are you upgrading or restoring? |
| 09:46.15 | martinfletcher_ | ok no worries |
| 09:46.17 | Tumulte | would you know why I'm banned from debian-next... but only with Irssi, and not smuxi ? |
| 09:46.30 | martinfletcher_ | thank you for your help, you have got me past a big hurdle |
| 09:46.32 | mumpitze1 | Tumulte: on oftc? |
| 09:46.38 | Tumulte | (since I don't have a GUI it's quite a bummer) |
| 09:46.40 | TD | looks like wheezy came out in mid may? |
| 09:46.42 | Tumulte | mumpitze1: yep |
| 09:46.49 | TD | the backups don't go back that far. they're meant for hardware failure really. |
| 09:46.57 | TD | so i guess i'm upgrading |
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| 09:47.37 | moof2 | TD, ok. first, you need to have the wheezy release notes available |
| 09:48.01 | TD | yep, got them: http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#minimal-upgrade |
| 09:48.25 | moof2 | alter your sources.list so that everywhere it says "stable" it says "squeeze" |
| 09:48.40 | moof2 | we;re going to try getting your squeeze up to date first |
| 09:49.13 | r4co0n | TD, you might want to start over from scratch and just put your data back. Imho you got good chances to miss to fix something that got broken along the way.. I Just saying. |
| 09:49.52 | moof2 | that is a valid point |
| 09:49.55 | babilen | Tumulte: You shouldn't be banned - Could you /msg me with details (message, ...) ? |
| 09:50.27 | TD | yeah, i know ... had enough scrapes with apt and failed upgrades before. hmmm. give me a few minutes |
| 09:51.16 | moof2 | it's worth a try to restore your squeeze tho |
| 09:51.28 | Tumulte | babilen: I must've done something wrong, I've accessed it |
| 09:51.39 | moof2 | before you do anything, let us know what you're doing before you start |
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| 09:52.46 | TD | sure. i'm reading the linode docs at the moment, seeing how painful it'd be to rebuild. the server is old and has a lot of crap on it anyway. a fresh start might not be a bad idea if i can copy the home dirs across |
| 09:52.53 | TD | it seems linode supports this kind of thing fairly well. |
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| 09:53.31 | TD | they have a whole document on how to recover from a compromise. i guess that's the closest equivalent to my problem, as i don't really know what state the current VM is in. |
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| 09:54.39 | moof2 | do you have a separate partition for /home? |
| 09:54.40 | TD | they let you create a second VM from scratch on the same account and then do some kind of atomic swap of IP addresses. that sounds about right to me. |
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| 09:55.19 | TD | no, unfortunately. this VM seems to be ancient, the profile is labelled in the linode manager as "My Debian 3.1 (Small) Profile" |
| 09:55.26 | TD | so presumably it's been through a few upgrades already |
| 09:55.39 | TD | but if i bring up a new VM i can rsync the home dirs across |
| 09:55.39 | chomwitt | i downloaded a source package (with apt-get source foo) but there is no foo.diff.gz file |
| 09:56.23 | TD | as it seems to be basically stable at the moment, perhaps i should leave this for a weekend when i have more time. |
| 09:57.08 | moof2 | ok, so let's make sure... does your sources.list have squeeze instead of stable? |
| 09:57.15 | TD | no. i will change that now. |
| 09:57.43 | TD | fixed |
| 09:58.04 | moof2 | then, run apt-get update |
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| 09:58.25 | TD | ok, done without errors |
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| 09:59.18 | moof2 | then, show me: dpkg -s libc6 | grep Version |
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| 09:59.32 | TD | Version: 2.11.3-4 |
| 09:59.39 | moof2 | , v libc6 |
| 09:59.40 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38; jessie: 2.17-3; sid: 2.17-6 |
| 09:59.52 | moof2 | ok, that's good |
| 09:59.58 | moof2 | howbout uname -r |
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| 10:00.06 | TD | 2.6.18.8-linode22 |
| 10:00.10 | TD | squeeze kernel too |
| 10:00.37 | TD | can i tell apt-get to inform me what it'd do if i tried an "upgrade"? |
| 10:00.51 | caf | yeah, --dry-run |
| 10:00.59 | r4co0n | TD, look at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=104523, the apt-pinning might work for you.. |
| 10:01.16 | r4co0n | But http://wiki.debian.org/SystemDowngrade |
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| 10:01.35 | caf | so apt-get --dry-run dist-upgrade |
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| 10:02.40 | TD | i just get the libc-bin related error again. my libc-bin package is too new |
| 10:03.03 | r4co0n | Or just apt-get -s |
| 10:03.36 | TD | yeah it seems to be an uncorrectable error |
| 10:03.46 | moof2 | ok, see if you have /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_* |
| 10:04.03 | babilen | TD: That is not a squeeze kernel and not even a Debian one. This looks like some VPS that you might not even be able to upgrade as you don't have control over the kernel. |
| 10:04.14 | TD | yeah, i do. |
| 10:04.23 | babilen | TD: That kernel is *ancient* btw |
| 10:04.25 | TD | babilen: it is indeed a linode vps |
| 10:04.40 | moof2 | he may not have a choice? |
| 10:04.43 | TD | (an ancient one) |
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| 10:05.31 | TD | moof2: there are libc6 packages here dating back to sarge. |
| 10:05.50 | moof2 | ok, do you have... |
| 10:06.12 | TD | moof2: there are also libc-bin packages. |
| 10:06.19 | TD | (of the right version that i need, too) |
| 10:06.25 | moof2 | libc6_2.11.3-4_*? |
| 10:06.33 | TD | indeed i do |
| 10:06.38 | TD | can i tell dpkg to downgrade me to that one? |
| 10:06.43 | moof2 | we should look at those too first |
| 10:06.53 | moof2 | , v libc-bin |
| 10:06.55 | judd | Package: libc-bin on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38; jessie: 2.17-3; sid: 2.17-6 |
| 10:06.57 | TD | (although a part of me now suspects that if i fix the libc error, something else will also be busted) |
| 10:07.12 | TD | maybe worth a try though |
| 10:07.32 | moof2 | so you want libc-bin_2.11.3-4_* |
| 10:07.57 | TD | yeah. dpkg --install libc-bin_2.11.3-4..etc ? |
| 10:08.05 | TD | has a meeting now and has to go but can try again later |
| 10:08.07 | moof2 | yeah |
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| 10:08.21 | TD | ok thanks guys |
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| 10:28.40 | chomwitt | is there a dictionary explaining terms like DDP ? (a bot maybe?) |
| 10:29.34 | martinfletcher_ | hi all, i have a samba file server setup that is a domain member to a windows server 2008 AD domain |
| 10:29.36 | The-Compiler | chomwitt: yes, /msg dpkg ddp |
| 10:29.50 | dimir | chomwitt: or vera |
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| 10:30.03 | martinfletcher_ | can anyone help with an issue i have getting windows authentication working for this setup? |
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| 10:34.42 | ghostlines | hello, I can find debconf-set-selections but can't seem to find or install debconf-get-selections. Why may this be? |
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| 10:36.36 | dawud | is http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/ no longer working? http://anonscm.debian.org/git/ seems to work OK |
| 10:37.40 | martinfletcher_ | i have a problem with a samba file server on debian |
| 10:37.41 | dawud | ghostlines: do you have debconf-utils installed? |
| 10:37.51 | muck | ghostlines, because it is part of an package |
| 10:38.05 | martinfletcher_ | the server has kerberos configured correctly (i can get a ticket from the AD server) |
| 10:38.17 | martinfletcher_ | the server is joined to the domain |
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| 10:39.05 | Izual | hey, I add some commands I want to rc.local but they don't execute on startup, why? |
| 10:39.08 | muck | ghostlines, you also cannot install e. g. xsetroot (and only this) if you use package manager. |
| 10:39.08 | martinfletcher_ | i am having trouble with authenticating samba shares and logins to the server using the AD domain auth |
| 10:39.09 | merethan | hi all |
| 10:39.43 | muck | Izual, which commands? |
| 10:39.45 | martinfletcher_ | can anyone he;lp? |
| 10:40.02 | Izual | muck, some binaries I have created and have up in /usr/local/bin |
| 10:40.07 | ghostlines | dawud, thanks I needed to install that :) |
| 10:40.11 | merethan | Quick and probably aimple question: I just installed a package, and want to run it's configuration again (it has an interactive part asking for some numbers). How do I do that? |
| 10:40.16 | merethan | *simple |
| 10:40.34 | dawud | merethan: dpkg-reconfigure package |
| 10:40.40 | merethan | tnx :) |
| 10:41.55 | merethan | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: yacy is broken or not fully installed |
| 10:42.07 | merethan | Blow me |
| 10:42.49 | muck | Izual, are they gui based? |
| 10:42.56 | Izual | muck, no |
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| 10:44.38 | dawud | merethan: which repo did that come from? |
| 10:45.22 | Izual | muck, I tried also to create a startup script in init.d folder. When I start it with service start it works. After adding with rc-update it does not work on boot. |
| 10:45.40 | merethan | dawud, non-official |
| 10:45.46 | merethan | Set up by the project |
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| 10:46.00 | merethan | Thing is, yesterday it installed just fine on a different machine |
| 10:46.03 | chomwitt | dimir: what is vera? |
| 10:46.37 | chomwitt | The-Compiler: dpkg bot says ddp is a doc project, isnt it debian developer? |
| 10:47.10 | dimir | chomwitt: apt-cache search vera |
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| 10:48.15 | dawud | merethan: have you already tried to purge and reinstall? |
| 10:48.22 | chomwitt | dimir: thanks |
| 10:49.16 | dimir | chomwitt: np |
| 10:49.29 | and`` | squeeze->wheezy upgrade broke my sound. syslog says: Jun 27 12:44:47 debian pulseaudio[3821]: [pulseaudio] module.c: Failed to load module "module-alsa-source" (argument: "device=hw:1,0"): initialization failed. |
| 10:49.44 | and`` | Is this a known problem? |
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| 10:50.47 | muck | imho correct cmd is update-rc.d |
| 10:51.20 | muck | tried to set runlevels with cmd? |
| 10:52.01 | caf | and``: You might need the alsa-firmware-loaders package from contirb |
| 10:52.05 | caf | s/contirb/contrib/ |
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| 10:52.30 | and`` | caf: ill try that, ty |
| 10:53.04 | mumpitze1 | caf: why? if squeeze worked without why would wheezy need anything firmware related? |
| 10:53.33 | caf | mumpitze1: there's been changes to the way that firmware is packaged in wheezy |
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| 10:56.45 | jwilliams1 | what kind of git gui would you recommended? though i prefer git command line, sometimes git gui's e.g. diff would help me better find the problem. |
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| 10:57.33 | moof2 | there are a lot of gui gits,,, like git-gui and gitk |
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| 11:07.00 | and`` | still no sound. still Failed to load module "module-alsa-source" . I sort of get sound when I load drivers statically in /etc/pulse/default.pa but it is extremely low and mixer doesnt work. What could this be? |
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| 11:08.22 | Walex2 | and``: how does the ALSA side work? |
| 11:08.34 | moof2 | you're loading the source code of the module? |
| 11:08.53 | moof2 | I would think you'd have to compile it first |
| 11:09.22 | and`` | Walex2, how do I check the alsa side of things? |
| 11:09.36 | Walex2 | moof2: if you are referring to <and``>, that's the name of a PulseAudio module, and the are either source or sink modules |
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| 11:10.14 | Walex2 | and``: you use an ALSA application like 'speaker-test' or 'aplay' and specify the 'plughw:0' device as output |
| 11:10.57 | Walex2 | and``: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html#troubles |
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| 11:16.10 | and`` | Walex2, the speaker-test fails. So the problem is on the alsa side? |
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| 11:24.56 | Walex2 | and``: yes. |
| 11:25.10 | brontosaurusrex | how would i implement persistent cache textlets? say my file is /home/user/music/my.flac and i would like that to be found when the script accesses the file, or generated if it is not allready there ... , I'am on wheezy |
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| 11:25.27 | dzen | hello |
| 11:26.01 | Walex2 | and``: but then PulseAudio should be silent, but you seem to have something. |
| 11:26.50 | and`` | I have something when I uncomment two lines in /etc/pulse/default.pa |
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| 11:27.25 | and`` | but volume is extremely low, and alsamixer does not have an effect |
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| 11:35.27 | R0SSI | size of folder instead of number of file within (called items) in nautilus; Is it possible? |
| 11:35.43 | boudiccas | and``, have you looked at 'veronomix', amixer for pulseaudio which just heelped me out |
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| 11:36.17 | and`` | bocaneri, havent, will try |
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| 11:42.14 | dzen | is there a way to create a package for python3 only ? is there a sample somewhere ? |
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| 12:25.09 | blackjack | hello |
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| 12:26.12 | dvs_ | gets out his mind-reading hat |
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| 12:27.51 | ksuhku | !ask |
| 12:27.52 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 12:29.56 | blackjack | How do i off pings on debian or linux in particular |
| 12:30.07 | blackjack | if someone pings my box. it wont reply |
| 12:30.21 | blackjack | and my question is, is that a bad thing? |
| 12:30.35 | blackjack | if i off it. |
| 12:31.01 | mumpitze1 | it's a useless thing |
| 12:31.14 | mumpitze1 | you can drop icmp packets with iptables/netfilter |
| 12:31.26 | caf | you can put into /etc/sysctl.conf: |
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| 12:31.48 | caf | net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_all = 1 |
| 12:32.11 | caf | (that won't take effect until you reboot) |
| 12:32.37 | blackjack | i see |
| 12:32.46 | dawud | caf: sysctl takes effect right away |
| 12:32.47 | blackjack | but why does someone off it? is there a use? |
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| 12:33.12 | caf | changing sysctl.conf doesn't |
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| 12:34.09 | caf | it's applied by /etc/init.d/procps |
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| 12:34.59 | blackjack | they just do that so that they can stay anonymous like that? |
| 12:35.04 | blackjack | i mean off the ping |
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| 12:35.23 | blackjack | are there bad consequence to it? like maybe it will ping out at some irc server ? |
| 12:35.47 | caf | it is highly unlikely to have any effect, good or bad |
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| 12:36.30 | dawud | caf: I mean using the sysctl command |
| 12:37.12 | CommaCrazy | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, going nutz |
| 12:37.20 | CommaCrazy | cacti has a whack support |
| 12:37.39 | CommaCrazy | and while migrating now it does not poll nor does it see backwards in the graph |
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| 12:40.47 | blackjack | caf: so why are some setups like that, some are ignoring icmp ping ? |
| 12:41.02 | blackjack | i mean its weird if theres no reason, so why do it? |
| 12:41.04 | blackjack | hmmm |
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| 12:43.33 | ezra-s | blackjack, paranoids everywhere |
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| 12:44.29 | ezra-s | blackjack, there could be setups when you don't want to respond to ping.. but think of it this way, if you have to wonder... then you don't need to set it up like that |
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| 12:49.40 | BotaniCar | If you have to wonder, better disable any unauthorized ICMP traffic |
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| 12:49.57 | BotaniCar | If you're just curious, forget it, it's just corporate paranoia |
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| 12:50.12 | blackjack | ezra-s can you tell me how to off mine right now? |
| 12:50.36 | blackjack | is it a switch 0 1 switch that i have to edit somewhere? |
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| 13:26.25 | balzac5000 | Morning all. I'm trying to compile Node.js on a Squeeze box and I'm getting these errors: http://pastebin.com/DB0JNxnF I figure I'm missing a dev package, but I the Google isn't telling me anything revealing. Any hints? |
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| 13:30.21 | babilen | balzac5000: My guess would be libc-ares-dev - but it looks as if you need a new version. (at least if you take a look at nodejs' build-dependencies) |
| 13:30.37 | babilen | judd: checkbackport nodejs --torelease=squeeze |
| 13:30.38 | judd | Backporting package nodejs in sid→squeeze/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: openssl (>= 1.0.0g), libv8-dev (>= 3.7), libssl-dev (>= 1.0.0g), libev-dev (>= 1:4.11), libc-ares-dev (>= 1.7.5). |
| 13:30.41 | balzac5000 | babilen: I'm grateful for your response! |
| 13:30.46 | babilen | judd: checkbackport nodejs |
| 13:30.47 | judd | Backporting package nodejs in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 13:31.10 | moof2 | one thing specifically missing is ENOENT, which is an error constant define' |
| 13:31.51 | babilen | balzac5000: It should be relatively straightforward to backport the nodejs package from sid to *wheezy* (at least in terms of satisfying the build dependencies) |
| 13:32.09 | balzac5000 | So I need to install a backported version of libc-ares-dev - or unstable? I clearly don't compile things very often any more... |
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| 13:32.44 | balzac5000 | babilen: Oh - so I need an older version of Node.js? |
| 13:33.01 | babilen | balzac5000: What are you trying to achieve in the end? Why are you running squeeze? (i.e. oldstable) Would updating to wheezy be an option? |
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| 13:34.04 | balzac5000 | babilen: Yeah, I could do a dist-upgrade if that would help. |
| 13:34.29 | balzac5000 | I'm not wed to Squeeze on this box that's just where it is right now. |
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| 13:35.03 | babilen | balzac5000: Yes, it would. I am not too heavily involved in nodejs, but at least the build dependencies of the nodejs version in sid can be satisfied in wheezy. You might be able to simply compile it for wheezy by following <ssb> (/msg dpkg ssb) |
| 13:35.08 | babilen | dpkg: tell balzac5000 -about release notes |
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| 13:36.20 | balzac5000 | babilen: Groovy - I'll give it a try. MANY thanks for your help! |
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| 13:36.52 | Ginji | Hello there! I have a problem by installing grub on my virtual KVM Server. I installed debian 7 via debootstrap, installed some packages and the openVZ kernel. Now I am trying to install grub, but when i run grub-install /dev/vda it hangs on Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub . Thanks for help! |
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| 13:39.09 | lchvdlog | Hi, is there any debian distro with _known_ AMT (intel VPro) support? |
| 13:39.21 | moof2 | is Node.js an object class? |
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| 13:40.50 | moof2 | Ginji, maybe you would (write and) use a script on the host to start the guest |
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| 13:42.11 | Ginji | moof2, this istallation is the Host system ;) I am installing from a live-disc. |
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| 13:42.23 | moof2 | oh ok |
| 13:42.40 | moof2 | do you know where you want to install grub? |
| 13:42.46 | moof2 | does the host have net? |
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| 13:43.37 | Ginji | moof2: Yes, i want to install it on the first virtual hard drive (/dev/vda). The Host has net. |
| 13:44.10 | moof2 | ok, you'll need a kernel, but we'll get to that... |
| 13:44.42 | moof2 | is it an intel host? if so you should be able to: apt-get install grub-pc |
| 13:45.17 | Ginji | moof2: It is a virtual machine from netcup.de . |
| 13:45.54 | Ginji | moof2: /proc/cpu say it is an intel Xeon |
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| 13:46.49 | Ginji | moof2: Installation finished. No error reported. Thank you ;) |
| 13:47.21 | nmschulte | Is there any way to configure X11 or my window manager/DE so that when I plug in an external monitor (on VGA1, or HDMI1), it automatically places it to the right or left of the LCD, and with the bottoms of the displays aligned? |
| 13:47.57 | moof2 | it should take you thru a config, if it doesn't and after installing grub-pc, you should be able to grub-install /dev/vda (for mbr) or grub-install /dev/vda1 (for first partition if it exists)... if no other os on that disk, probaby /dev/vda |
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| 13:48.55 | moof2 | do you have the kernel you want? |
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| 13:50.45 | DammitJim | is there a way to check on an external hard drive? |
| 13:50.57 | DammitJim | I have attached a hard drive via eSata and the thing won't stop spinning |
| 13:51.03 | DammitJim | even when the machine is just idle |
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| 13:52.26 | moof2 | hmm, hdparm? |
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| 13:53.03 | DammitJim | moof2, is that normal? I mean the hard drive spinning while "idle"? |
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| 13:53.25 | DammitJim | or what I would consider no activity? I'm afraid this thing is going to shorten the life of the ext hdd |
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| 13:54.46 | th0r | DammitJim, actually, it is the spin up and spin down of the drive that wears it out, or so they claim |
| 13:55.01 | DammitJim | interesting concept |
| 13:55.29 | and`` | Walex2: the alsa problem was fixed by removing the package speech-dispatcher. Thanks for the help anyway. |
| 13:55.32 | DammitJim | oh, so hdparm doesn't tell you if the drive is spinning |
| 13:56.07 | Walex2 | and``: that's rather weird, how did you figure that out? |
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| 13:56.40 | Walex2 | DammitJim: 'man hdparm', with attention to options '-S' and '-C' |
| 13:56.58 | DammitJim | Walex2, I'm reading that a -C will actually wake up the drive? |
| 13:57.26 | and`` | Walex2: I got a warning regarding ConsoleKit and found this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=94868 |
| 13:57.33 | Walex2 | DammitJim: not necessarily... |
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| 13:58.05 | and`` | Walex2: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=625235 |
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| 13:58.20 | Walex2 | and``: that's a really odd behaviour for a package... Ah well. |
| 13:58.22 | yossarianuk | what is the best way of doing SSD + RAID + TRIM at present ? |
| 13:58.37 | yossarianuk | Is it not a good idea to MDRIAD also ? |
| 13:58.42 | Walex2 | yossarianuk: unfortunately is a bit a Catch-22 situation... |
| 13:58.45 | silorge | why don't I have /etc/locale.gen and locale-gen? |
| 13:59.12 | yossarianuk | Walex2: yeah thats what i'm finding |
| 13:59.24 | Walex2 | yossarianuk: IIRC MD RAID passes through TRIM commands. |
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| 13:59.57 | Walex2 | yossarianuk: some people think that with enough overprovisioning TRIM is no longer necessary, and to a large extent I agree. |
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| 14:00.33 | yossarianuk | normally we use MDRAID on SATA as its easy to use, repair arrays, etc |
| 14:00.39 | r4co0n | Do I have a reasonable chance to speed up ddrescue, I estimate a runtime of 3 days atvm |
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| 14:01.19 | yossarianuk | We have a HW RAID controller also - HP Smart Array - this doesn;t have TRIM support though. |
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| 14:01.45 | yossarianuk | would using the HW controller with no TRIM be better than MDRAID ? |
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| 14:03.30 | sh333pl | having troubles installing grub on a crypto + btrfs installation..getting this error /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/mapper/sdb2_crypt. Check your device.map. |
| 14:03.30 | sh333pl | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for /dev/mapper/sdb2_crypt. Check your device.map. |
| 14:03.30 | sh333pl | Auto-detection of a filesystem of /dev/mapper/sdb2_crypt failed. |
| 14:04.10 | sh333pl | whoops, anyhow, here is the sequence of cmds ive used http://paste.debian.net/12967/ is for LMDE.. grub-install is last step and it doesnt work cause of the crypto somehow |
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| 14:05.15 | babilen | dpkg: lmde |
| 14:05.16 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 14:06.00 | msn | I am trying to setup a website using wheezy, LAMP setup, its throwing an error and somehow i am not seeing any errors in the apache error log all I see is blank error logs and 500 error in access log |
| 14:06.57 | moof2 | to error... or not to error... |
| 14:07.17 | moof2 | what error is it throwing? |
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| 14:16.44 | wo0f | will php 5.5 be coming to wheezy, or will it only be in the next release? |
| 14:17.21 | mumpitze1 | wo0f: next release or a backport |
| 14:17.38 | wo0f | mumpitze1: cheers |
| 14:18.15 | daemonkeeper | There won't be a 5.5 backport. |
| 14:18.30 | mumpitze1 | how can you be certain? |
| 14:18.33 | yossarianuk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:18.46 | mumpitze1 | yes. |
| 14:19.19 | daemonkeeper | mumpitze1: Backports are designed to be minimally-invasive leaf packages. PHP is not a leaf package and updating it, requires a lot of reverse dependencies to be tested and ported aside. |
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| 14:19.41 | daemonkeeper | Letting alone that the PHP 5.5 package in Sid does not work with Wheezy at all. |
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| 14:20.07 | mumpitze1 | are kernels leaf packages? |
| 14:20.50 | moof2 | only leafy ones |
| 14:21.01 | daemonkeeper | mumpitze1: They are. |
| 14:21.12 | daemonkeeper | Well, to some extent. |
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| 14:21.36 | moof2 | I mean, it's starting to sound like php is important... |
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| 14:21.58 | wo0f | mumpitze1 / daemonkeeper no php5 5.5 backport yet according to the website |
| 14:22.10 | daemonkeeper | Well. There are a 200 of web application packages in Debian, most of them written in PHP. |
| 14:22.24 | daemonkeeper | And PHP breaks APIs between releases. |
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| 14:22.32 | daemonkeeper | As such it is no backport candidate. |
| 14:22.41 | wo0f | daemonkeeper: i see (Y) |
| 14:22.56 | daemonkeeper | Letting alone the package won't work anymore in Wheezy anyway. |
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| 14:23.10 | veek | how would you sort a line like this:" Albania" 60.5985 60.6 2012 est. 60.597 2012 Europe. i tried cat publicDebt.txt |head -3|tr -s " "|sed -r -e 's/(\s+[a-zA-Z, -]+)\s+/"\1" /'|sort -k2 -n|less but it doesn't seem to work |
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| 14:23.39 | moof2 | just build it yourself... or program portably, or use apps that have been written portably, and then -maybe- there won't be a need for depending on specific versions of php... |
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| 14:24.18 | daemonkeeper | As said. Won't work if you mean "make a backport of the Sid package yourself" |
| 14:24.47 | VoidLORD | Hi my screen resolution is 1280x768 instead of the correct 1920x1080, how do I change it on the command line? "xrandr -s 1920x1080" doesn't work, it says "Size 1920x1080 not found in available modes". |
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| 14:25.16 | msn | moof2: the access log says 500, but error log is empty |
| 14:25.20 | veek | VoidLORD, you need to check your X server modes |
| 14:25.21 | moof2 | daemonkeeper, maybe he should build the entire stack |
| 14:25.31 | veek | VoidLORD, /var/log/XOrg* |
| 14:25.46 | VoidLORD | veek: thanks, I'll check them |
| 14:26.05 | daemonkeeper | moof2: The entire stack means PHP + Apache + any other Apache third party module in this case + any web app used from a package. |
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| 14:26.07 | jordanm | VoidLORD, xrandr with no args will show available modes for your graphics driver and monitor |
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| 14:26.37 | moof2 | daemonkeeper, exactly... and listen to how ridiculous that sounds |
| 14:27.04 | _dep | i know i can find debian version in etc but where can i find the name as in "wheezy"? |
| 14:27.18 | VoidLORD | jordanm: no modes are correct in that "xrandr" output and the thing has just worked(TM) previously |
| 14:27.47 | jordanm | VoidLORD, pastebin the Xorg.0.log |
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| 14:27.59 | babilen | (to http://paste.debian.net ) |
| 14:28.10 | moof2 | daemonkeeper, and having said that, I build my own stack all the time (used to build pg too, but that's become unnecessary) |
| 14:29.26 | PaulePanter | Hi. Do you know why the versions in stable-security (17.0.7… for Iceweasel) or not listed at the package page? |
| 14:29.29 | PaulePanter | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=iceweasel |
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| 14:29.48 | veek | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.08 | PaulePanter | veek: ? |
| 14:30.21 | veek | _dep /etc/debian_version |
| 14:30.24 | PaulePanter | s,or/are/ in my question. |
| 14:31.17 | mullein | veek, the space before albania is messing it up, maybe throw in | sed 's/^" /"/' somewhere |
| 14:31.17 | wo0f | moof2: ( daemonkeeper ) I mite as well use Sid, rather than compiling everything from source, compiling from source isnt why i love/use Debian anyways ;P. Regarding 'programming portably', it was the new generators functionality i wanted to test in php 5.5 :) |
| 14:31.41 | _dep | veek: cant use the number asked if i could find the name. |
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| 14:32.12 | mullein | veek: so | tr -s " "|sed -r -e 's/(\s+[a-zA-Z, -]+)\s+/"\1"/'|sed 's/^" /"/' | sort -k2 -n |
| 14:32.31 | daemonkeeper | wo0f: It's about to the worst idea you could have to use PHP/Apache in Sid currently. |
| 14:32.33 | moof2 | yeah, apache has gained quite a number of rdeps... unless you have a specific plan that works every time for you, you're going to be spending a long time building all that stuff |
| 14:32.39 | jordanm | ,file bin/so |
| 14:32.44 | judd | No packages in wheezy/i386 were found with that file. |
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| 14:33.11 | wo0f | daemonkeeper: I hear you, tbh i wouldnt dream of using anything but stable |
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| 14:35.06 | moof2 | wo0f, you should consider using the whole stack that's in stable, and write your own php stuff, or use php stuff that is professionally and portably written |
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| 14:35.45 | veek | lemme try eating a sec thanks |
| 14:35.47 | daemonkeeper | moof2: haha |
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| 14:35.59 | daemonkeeper | Oxymoron intended? :p |
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| 14:36.20 | wo0f | moof2: how do you mean 'whole stack'? as i said, it was the generators stuff in 5.5 i wanted to test out :) |
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| 14:37.20 | veek | ah yes the space was the problem thanks! wrking! |
| 14:37.22 | VoidLORD | jordanm: here is my Xorg.0.log: http://txtup.co/G9cIO |
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| 14:37.52 | moof2 | oh ok, you're just curious about something? |
| 14:38.22 | jordanm | VoidLORD, you are falling back to vesa |
| 14:38.23 | daemonkeeper | In that case, get a sid chroot + Apache, and be happy. |
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| 14:38.46 | jordanm | VoidLORD, need to either fix nouveau or install the nvidia proprietary drivers |
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| 14:39.13 | VoidLORD | jordanm: which one is more pragmatic choice in your opinion? |
| 14:39.30 | wo0f | moof2: also, not sure how you mean portably written? |
| 14:39.51 | daemonkeeper | Writing portable PHP means to avoid PHP. |
| 14:39.57 | moof2 | wo0f, notice how there are a lot of php apps out there? |
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| 14:40.01 | jordanm | VoidLORD, I would go with proprietary since that will also give you 3d acceleration |
| 14:40.11 | VoidLORD | jordanm: ok gonna do that then |
| 14:40.28 | jordanm | !tell VoidLORD about nvidia |
| 14:40.33 | babilen | CommaCrazy: It looks as if you disabled KMS (e.g. by booting with nomodeset or setting it explicitly, nouveau needs that) |
| 14:40.34 | wo0f | moof2: yes? |
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| 14:41.02 | babilen | VoidLORD: But you might want the proprietary driver anyway (cf. http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers) |
| 14:41.22 | moof2 | and notice how some of them depend on very specific versions of php? to the point if you don't have the exact point release of php, the app won't work? |
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| 14:41.50 | msn | I am trying to setup a website using wheezy, LAMP setup, its throwing an error and somehow i am not seeing any errors in the apache error log all I see is blank error logs and 500 error in access log, the error log is totally empty and showing no errors at all |
| 14:41.50 | wo0f | moof2: yes? |
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| 14:42.35 | moof2 | an app should not demand a specific version of php if it's written to be portable |
| 14:42.54 | wo0f | moof2: im pretty sure you have to target a specific version |
| 14:42.55 | nkuttler | moof2: welcome to php.. |
| 14:42.56 | daemonkeeper | In theory you are right. In practice this is impossible for PHP. |
| 14:43.19 | babilen | moof2: That seems to be a common problem with software developed in PHP -- I am not too surprised this. (but then, this isn't really a topic we should get too involved in in #debian) |
| 14:43.26 | nkuttler | well, it's possible to write portable code, but it rarely happens.. |
| 14:43.51 | moof2 | would that be because php introduces incompatible changes as it goes to later versions? |
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| 14:43.58 | daemonkeeper | PHP arbitrarily adds and removes features between versions, there is no PHP "standard library" and it happily changes default configuration between versions. It's next to impossible to write portable PHP. |
| 14:44.15 | babilen | PHP (or PHP developers) seem to be particularly prone to that. You wonder how companies manage to survive longer than the maintenance perioud of whatever (minor?) release of PHP they target |
| 14:44.57 | moof2 | daemonkeeper, php is fairly popular, that must be why it's packaged... |
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| 14:45.21 | daemonkeeper | moof2: And billions of flies eat shit. Would you like to do likewise? |
| 14:45.22 | babilen | but then, the fact that PHP has ... well .. problems is well known. But lets take this discussion to #debian-offtopic if anybody is interested in continuing this (I luckily managed to stay clear of PHP in my career after a very frustrating internship one summer)) |
| 14:46.00 | moof2 | hey! I thought we were arguing, and you're making my points for me! |
| 14:46.27 | moof2 | especially that last one... pretty smelly... |
| 14:47.28 | moof2 | look at tcl by comparison... their devs strive to never invalidate existing code |
| 14:47.46 | daemonkeeper | Every sane programming language does. |
| 14:47.51 | daemonkeeper | But what babilen says. |
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| 14:48.00 | wo0f | love it or hate it, php runs a vast proportion of the web :P |
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| 14:49.21 | moof2 | wo0f, what do you think of this: http://openacs.org/doc/acs-templating/ look at the demo first |
| 14:49.22 | dTal | love it or hate it, the US runs a vast proportion of the world |
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| 14:49.39 | wo0f | debatable ; |
| 14:49.41 | wo0f | ;P* |
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| 14:51.03 | moof2 | dTal, china is positioning itself to own just about everything, and with corrupt us politicians adding to our debt, devaluing the dollar and pocketing the difference, there won't be much of a dollar left |
| 14:51.56 | moof2 | the US can't even come up with the interest |
| 14:52.03 | wo0f | definitely #debian-offtopic |
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| 14:53.34 | nimbius | hi debian, where are kernel dumps stored in squeeze? |
| 14:53.41 | moof2 | wo0f, anyway, tell me what you think of that |
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| 14:54.03 | moof2 | stored? dumps are made in the curr dir |
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| 14:54.22 | moof2 | and by default are not made at all |
| 14:55.01 | wo0f | moof2: not sure what to make of it, just another templating system? |
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| 14:55.20 | moof2 | yeah, that;s what it is |
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| 14:57.07 | moof2 | wo0f, templated pages are made up of .adp and .tcl files (like hello.tcl and hello.adp) |
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| 14:57.27 | moof2 | when /hello is requested, the server runs the template |
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| 14:58.20 | nimbius | dangit. |
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| 15:02.46 | statefarm | I'm admittedly pretty newbish when it comes to Linux. I took a break from the os for a while when I started playing games on Windows. I came back a few days ago, updated my unstable version of linux and I swear that Unity is somehow the desktop manager rather than xfce. |
| 15:03.00 | statefarm | What has gone wrong? |
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| 15:04.01 | statefarm | Is it possible that apt-get dist-upgrade removed my xfce and install unity? |
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| 15:04.21 | moof2 | you must have ubuntu sources in your sources.list |
| 15:04.39 | moof2 | I don't think debian has a package of unity |
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| 15:04.45 | moof2 | , v unity |
| 15:04.46 | judd | No package named 'unity' was found in i386. |
| 15:04.48 | babilen | It has not been packaged (yet) |
| 15:05.01 | moof2 | babilen, any plans to? |
| 15:05.10 | moof2 | itp or the like? |
| 15:05.23 | babilen | judd: bug #609278 |
| 15:05.25 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/609278 in wnpp (open): «RFP: unity -- Interface for Ubuntu Desktop Edition»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2011-01-08; last modified: 2013-01-14. |
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| 15:05.45 | moof2 | so someone asked for it |
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| 15:05.57 | statefarm | Besides the stuff put in my sources.list from my cdrom install, all I have is: "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free" |
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| 15:06.12 | moof2 | unstable? |
| 15:06.17 | babilen | statefarm: First and foremost: unstable might not be the optimal choice if you don't know linux/Debian well it is also supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and not here in #debian so it might make sense to go there |
| 15:06.59 | moof2 | statefarm, what do you want to do? |
| 15:07.16 | statefarm | I'm wondering why my debian install has unity on it |
| 15:07.19 | statefarm | I must be insane or something. |
| 15:07.22 | moof2 | meetoo :) |
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| 15:07.24 | babilen | moof2: Lets take it to #debian-next |
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| 15:07.44 | babilen | statefarm: It might be Gnome3 rather than unity. |
| 15:07.52 | moof2 | well first let's see what he wants to do... maybe he wants to replace with stable |
| 15:08.06 | statefarm | Ugh. Yeah, you are right. |
| 15:08.28 | moof2 | still I'll ask you, statefarm: what do YOU want to do? |
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| 15:08.31 | statefarm | Gah. I liked the looks of gnome 2 |
| 15:08.40 | babilen | statefarm: So, install XFCE if you want that and select it in gdm3. Gnome 2 is no longer. |
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| 15:08.50 | moof2 | well there is squeeze... |
| 15:08.50 | babilen | dpkg: tell statefarm -about install xfce4 |
| 15:08.57 | statefarm | Yeah, I'll do that even though I thought I already had xfce installed and everything |
| 15:08.59 | babilen | moof2: Not really an option now is it? |
| 15:09.33 | moof2 | sure it is. it's his machine, and squeeze is not eol |
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| 15:09.49 | statefarm | I'd rather use stable but everything is so old and it is an inconvenience to deal with it. I tried testing but every install breaks when I update for the first time |
| 15:09.53 | statefarm | So here I am on unstable. :P |
| 15:10.06 | moof2 | having said that, it's just the look he likes |
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| 15:11.00 | moof2 | statefarm, so you want to stay on unstable? |
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| 15:11.13 | statefarm | Yeah, I suppose so. |
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| 15:11.53 | FilipeMaia | How can I stop an lvm volume when the underlying device fails/ |
| 15:11.58 | babilen | statefarm: Well, unstable will not be easier to manage than testing. All that being said: i would strongly suggest to read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable |
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| 15:12.18 | FilipeMaia | I'm trying to do lvchange -an volume but I'm getting lots of I/O errors |
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| 15:12.59 | moof2 | the other part is I don't run unstable, so I may be unsuitable to help with issues that come up with unstable. |
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| 15:13.26 | moof2 | I run stable, exclusively, for right now |
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| 15:15.40 | statefarm | Well, thanks for the help anyways. |
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| 15:16.45 | moof2 | unfortunately not sure how to help ... do you want to reinstall from scratch? if so, do you have data you need protected before you do? |
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| 15:17.21 | statefarm | I might reinstall from scratch after I get some exams done |
| 15:17.29 | blackjack | how can i setup debian. so as it will alert me for a scan or ddos or even a simple tracert. is that possible? |
| 15:17.48 | moof2 | the best favor I can offer you, is if you have data you need protected, is to say to you, back it up |
| 15:17.49 | blackjack | in windows i can do that |
| 15:17.59 | statefarm | I remember a giant linux guide from long ago...it was pretty comprehensive, covering scripting and a lot of other useful things. Anyone know what I am talking about or have a link to it? |
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| 15:18.05 | statefarm | I think it was a few hundred pages. |
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| 15:18.25 | moof2 | statefarm, sounds like one of the howtos |
| 15:18.48 | moof2 | orielly linux in a nutshell? |
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| 15:19.33 | moof2 | what would be one or two directions you'd want to go with reading that? |
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| 15:21.10 | statefarm | I just want to relearn some basics and learn a bit more this time. I've used linux for a long time but have somehow avoided learning more than just reading steps online. |
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| 15:21.20 | statefarm | Kind of embarassing, but that is the status of my knowledge right now. :P |
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| 15:21.52 | nardev | hello, what does this "X: 12" means next to Bosnian mirror? http://mirror.debian.org/status.html#err12 Is it not up to date mirror? |
| 15:21.58 | LtL | statefarm: try this site: http://debian-handbook.info/ |
| 15:22.00 | moof2 | ok. so, you want to gain some basic knowledge so you can use it mroe effectively? |
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| 15:23.03 | statefarm | Yeah. |
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| 15:24.59 | moof2 | so, you'll want to do some exploration to see where linux puts things, you'll want to be maybe a little more conversant with the shell, and maybe be looking for a non-shell scripting language in case you want to automate something more challenging |
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| 15:25.38 | statefarm | Yeah, it is okay. I can find what I need and I'll just come back if I have any questions. Cheers o/ |
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| 15:25.51 | moof2 | have a good time |
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| 15:28.53 | lulz0r | soooo, I'm trying to install clang 3.3 on a (virtual) debian machine. (Fresh installed.) So I followed this http://blog.llvm.org/2013/04/llvm-debianubuntu-nightly-packages.html but when I try apt-get install clang-3.3 it says I need libclang-common-dev. When I try apt-get install libclang-common-dev it says I need libllvm3.4, but when I try apt-get install libllvm3.4 it says I already have the newest version! wtf? |
| 15:29.55 | moof2 | it's the latest version meant for your version of debian |
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| 15:31.02 | TheWarden | Hi |
| 15:31.13 | TheWarden | I'm not sure if this is an ideal spot to talk about this but I'll give it a go. |
| 15:32.22 | lulz0r | moof2: So what should I do to install clang-3.3? |
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| 15:32.53 | moof2 | I believe the message said it's installed |
| 15:33.23 | lulz0r | no... it's not...^^ |
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| 15:33.40 | moof2 | oh, I see more now, it looks like you're having dep problems, maybe because you're mixing sources? |
| 15:34.13 | TheWarden | I have a development Debian web server running which hosts all the related web files. How can I setup git on Debian to handle the control versioning? The developers will be using a samba share to gain access to the files on the server and using Netbeans IDE on Windows 7. I want them to be able to do git via Netbeans back to the git server. |
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| 15:34.46 | Brigo | lulz0r: but libllvm3.4 is not in debian repos |
| 15:35.00 | Alikexhi | someone here know how I can see my memory usage over 1 week ? I heard it's possible to do that with atop ...? |
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| 15:35.27 | lulz0r | Brigo: Did you click the link? I think I added some repos there with echo "deb http://llvm.org/apt/wheezy/ llvm-toolchain-wheezy main"> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/llvm.list, I'm a complete linux noob though |
| 15:35.33 | TheWarden | I believe I install the package git-core, however I'm confused as to how the rest of the process would work. I want to have multiple users for Git. |
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| 15:36.02 | TheWarden | would one continue to access the files via the samba share or would it be via git instead mmmm |
| 15:36.16 | moof2 | lulz0r, could you put your sources.list in a pastebin |
| 15:36.33 | Brigo | lulz0r: so, the problem are im these sources. Ask them. |
| 15:36.43 | Brigo | s/im/in |
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| 15:39.15 | moof2 | TheWarden is the project open source? |
| 15:39.18 | babilen | TheWarden: Both approaches would work, in the end they just need access to the directory with the repo. If that is done via SSH, Samba or another method doesn't really matter. What counts is that your developers can read (clone, pull) and write (commit, push) to the "central" repository. How to organise a suitable workflow and whatnot is a *long* discussion that I would rather recommend to have in #git |
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| 15:39.56 | TheWarden | moof2: well yes and no, its an internal development. |
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| 15:40.29 | moof2 | so having the code on a public git repo, how would that be? |
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| 15:40.52 | maxim | hi |
| 15:40.58 | maxim | how is it going? |
| 15:41.03 | babilen | TheWarden: I mean you could also have people that regularly merge whatever they pulled from other people into a "canonical" repository. There are so many ways to organise this with git that it is hard to provide answers. But one things stays the same: If you want to push your commits to a remote repository you need access to it. (but I would strongly recommend to discuss this in #git rather than #debian) |
| 15:41.13 | moof2 | maxim: southwest |
| 15:42.05 | Guest92036 | how u think, is debian slowly dying? |
| 15:42.21 | Guest92036 | ubuntu ate debian |
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| 15:42.37 | babilen | Guest92036: Please, take it elsewhere if you don't have a Debian support question. |
| 15:42.42 | moof2 | ou812? |
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| 15:45.05 | jeffrin | hello all |
| 15:45.29 | jeffrin | i want to take up a unmaintained package related |
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| 15:47.10 | moof2 | jeffrin, you may need a sponsor if you want your packaging published and you're not a dd yourself |
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| 15:47.58 | moof2 | you may also be able to find a mentor if you want that |
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| 15:48.35 | val_erie | What libraries do I need to install in Debian in order for python imaging library (PIL) to work? |
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| 15:48.58 | moof2 | val_erie, is that packaged? |
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| 15:49.17 | babilen | val_erie: Just install python-imaging and you should be fine |
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| 15:49.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell val_erie -about search |
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| 15:50.19 | jeffrin | moof2 : what should i do |
| 15:50.29 | nardev | hello, what does this "X: 12" means next to Bosnian mirror? http://mirror.debian.org/status.html#err12 Is it not up to date mirror? |
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| 15:50.40 | val_erie | moof2, I installed PIL in virtualenv with pip install, but got JPEG support not available and ZLIB (PNG/ZIP) support not available |
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| 15:51.06 | moof2 | jeffrin, so I assume you want to make packages to be published, and you have a specific one in mind |
| 15:51.11 | jeffrin | moof2 : i have a doubt if it is really orphan |
| 15:51.23 | moof2 | oh... |
| 15:51.29 | jeffrin | moof2 : i like to work on ethstatus |
| 15:51.42 | moof2 | what's that orphan/debian work needing list? |
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| 15:52.26 | babilen | val_erie: Ask #python -- pip/virtualenv don't install from the Debian archive |
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| 15:52.59 | boudiccas | jeffrin, do apt-cache show ethstatus and you'll see it already has a maintainer |
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| 15:53.50 | babilen | val_erie: You can, naturally, install the python-imaging package from Debian and then configure your virtualenv in such a way that you can access the system's modules |
| 15:53.59 | jeffrin | boudiccas : yes it has a maintainer related |
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| 15:54.38 | jeffrin | boudiccas : but it is on this page http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/orphaned |
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| 15:55.44 | boudiccas | jeffrin, i'd get in tgouch with the listed maintainer first, and see whats happening |
| 15:55.46 | jeffrin | see this also http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677768 |
| 15:56.07 | jeffrin | boudiccas : anyway thanks |
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| 15:56.36 | boudiccas | jeffrin, you're welcome |
| 15:57.49 | val_erie | babilen, I need to install python imaging library in virtualenv, but PIL depends on other libraries that need to be in os |
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| 16:01.28 | das | Hi. Anyone aware of patches to simplify the output of make ? I'm talking color/indent |
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| 16:02.47 | realf | hello. does wheezy installer currently support parameter desktop=kde or desktop=xfce? |
| 16:02.49 | moof2 | howbout options to make? |
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| 16:03.15 | mumpitze1 | realf: you either download the proper ISO or you install it after the installation |
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| 16:05.17 | das | moof2: I don't see anything on the manpage ? |
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| 16:07.13 | val_erie | where in debian thes libraries are located libjpeg libjpeg-dev libfreetype6 libfreetype6-dev zlib1g-dev? |
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| 16:07.30 | moof2 | the output of make is sometimes used as a build log |
| 16:08.00 | mumpitze1 | val_erie: dpkg -L <package name> tells you |
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| 16:08.06 | das | moof2: I'm not sure I understand |
| 16:08.39 | das | you're talking about a tool that comes after make ? to check the output again ? |
| 16:08.56 | moof2 | so if you want to, you can parse the output of make and transform it any way you want |
| 16:09.07 | das | I'm just really annoyed by the lack of formatting, takes me too long to breeze through logs |
| 16:09.33 | das | but no one did that before ? and integrated it to make ? |
| 16:09.38 | moof2 | you should organize your ideas around that, and let your annoyance take the lead |
| 16:09.46 | das | that's surprising |
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| 16:10.13 | moof2 | people have been reading that output for an awful long time |
| 16:10.15 | realf1 | sorry, if i install wheezy from netinst, will I be able to choose the desktop? |
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| 16:10.38 | das | true that ... I guess no one'd be interested |
| 16:10.49 | das | I'll see what I can do |
| 16:10.57 | Sevet | hi, upgrading a server to wheezy. it warns me grub's core.img is too large for the embedding area. how can i shrink core.img? |
| 16:11.17 | val_erie | mumpitze1, thanks |
| 16:11.20 | moof2 | realf1, yes, IF you don't install a de during the installer, and then you install what you want after rebooting |
| 16:11.32 | mumpitze1 | Sevet: what is a core.img? |
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| 16:12.13 | moof2 | Sevet, are you running grub2 or grub legacy? |
| 16:12.15 | badkid | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.24 | badkid | http://paste.debian.net/12994/ |
| 16:12.31 | realf1 | is mate available in wheezy? |
| 16:12.43 | badkid | The error comes from glibc, i'm not very sure why this happens ... |
| 16:12.50 | Sevet | moof2: grub-pc 1.99-27+deb7u1 |
| 16:13.08 | moof2 | hmm. what are you trying to install to? |
| 16:13.21 | Sevet | lvm on top of md raid1 |
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| 16:14.01 | Sevet | wondering if there's any way to shrink it by leaving modules out that aren't needed? |
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| 16:19.45 | bjoernb | i have lost my close buttons in iceweasel tabs plus other icons. i am using debian jessie. what package is responsible for providing close buttons in iceweasel for the tabs? |
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| 16:20.04 | Walex2 | bjoernb: that's a preference |
| 16:20.12 | bjoernb | i guess it has to do something with gtk |
| 16:20.25 | Walex2 | bjoernb: anyhow if you like to configure tabs get the add-on "tabmix plus" |
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| 16:21.12 | bjoernb | Walex2: it is more, look at the form details here: http://bjoern.homelinux.org/public_stuff/wikipedia-debian.png |
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| 16:22.24 | Walex2 | bjoernb: that's your entire iceweasel widow? |
| 16:22.31 | bjoernb | no that is a screenshot |
| 16:22.50 | Walex2 | bjoernb: a screenshot of your 'iceweasel' window? |
| 16:23.02 | bjoernb | of a part of the website. |
| 16:23.40 | moof2 | Sevet, I mean what device name? |
| 16:23.55 | Walex2 | bjoernb: I am sorry, I don't understand what a site has to do with tab blose buttons |
| 16:24.16 | bjoernb | Walex2: tabs look like this: http://bjoern.homelinux.org/public_stuff/tabs.png |
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| 16:25.00 | bjoernb | Walex2: the problem is more than the tabs. the forms a displayed without visible checkboxes, radiobuttons, etc. therefore i did the other screenshot |
| 16:25.07 | Walex2 | bjoernb: that's very odd. Perhaps you haven't restarted your 'iceweasel' after an update, or perhaps you have lost part of your theme. |
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| 16:25.08 | moof2 | das, I'd be curious to hear what problems you've had reading make output and what your wishlist is for making it more useful |
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| 16:25.30 | Walex2 | has to go catch a bus, will be here later |
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| 16:27.05 | moof2 | das, one thing, I probably wouldn't be interested in something integrated with make, as there are programs that parse make output, and I'd hope they wouldn't have to be rewritten |
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| 16:29.08 | moof2 | das, also we're talking about gnu make (sometimes called gmake, not by debian, which calls it plain ol make) |
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| 16:31.19 | bjoernb | i think it is a gtk thing, since synaptic has also no icons |
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| 16:32.42 | bjoernb | here are the broken icons: http://bjoern.homelinux.org/public_stuff/synaptic.png |
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| 16:33.04 | bjoernb | what package supplies those? |
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| 16:34.46 | mtn | bjoernb: did it ever work correctly? |
| 16:34.58 | Sevet | moof2: installing to /dev/sda. sda1 63 sectors in which is part of md0 and lvm on top of that |
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| 16:35.20 | bjoernb | mtn: yes a week ago |
| 16:35.44 | mtn | bjoernb: so, you need to figure out what you changed and fix it. maybe you were messing around with themes? |
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| 16:37.08 | bjoernb | mtn: yes, that i am searching for |
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| 16:37.37 | Sevet | moof2: it'll be #699754, but haven't seen any workarounds for it of how to shrink it. i know i should repartition, but that's not an option right now (the server's 500 miles away with no remote kvm) |
| 16:37.40 | moof2 | Sevet, sda1 doesn't have a 64 sector area (by default) |
| 16:37.51 | moof2 | sda should (by default) |
| 16:37.51 | mtn | bjoernb: did you delete icons? did you delete icon packages? |
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| 16:38.59 | bjoernb | perhaps aptitude did |
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| 16:40.00 | Sevet | moof2: fdisk -lu /dev/sda --> /dev/sda1 * 63 80405324 40202631 fd Linux raid autodetect, problem is core.img is 32K and there's not enough space for that between MBR and sda1 |
| 16:40.21 | mtn | bjoernb: aptitude only does what you tell it to. so.... |
| 16:40.39 | bjoernb | yes. perhaps i removed then icon themes. |
| 16:40.44 | moof2 | Sevet, right |
| 16:40.48 | bjoernb | what icon themes should i have? |
| 16:41.09 | Sevet | moof2: Start defaults to 2048 now, but that was originally partitioned by lenny |
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| 16:42.15 | Sevet | moof2: repartitioning to start at 2048 would be the proper fix which i'll do when i can physically get to it, but right now i'm looking for some way to shrink core.img back to a squeeze-era size so it's at least bootable until then |
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| 16:43.06 | bjoernb | bbl telephone |
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| 16:43.27 | mtn | bjoernb: you can look at the apt logs to see what programs were removed, if any. |
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| 16:43.33 | knyl | I have a Realtek RTL8191SU and can't get internet on netinstall. |
| 16:43.47 | knyl | the firmware-realtek package is required for me |
| 16:43.48 | knyl | BUT |
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| 16:44.03 | knyl | the firmware isos for netinstall don't include it |
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| 16:44.19 | knyl | I could install it off of a USB, but a reboot is required afterwards |
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| 16:45.27 | knyl | Nevermind I wont use netinstall . Is Debian testing rolling release? |
| 16:46.35 | mumpitze1 | no it's not |
| 16:46.45 | format_c | ä |
| 16:46.57 | knyl | but it doesn't have seperate versions |
| 16:46.59 | Sevet | !tell knyl -about rolling |
| 16:47.40 | knyl | "It is a test platform, currently codenamed <wheezy>." |
| 16:47.43 | knyl | no it's not |
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| 16:48.19 | Sevet | that factoid must have been missed out when wheezy was released |
| 16:48.24 | Sevet | it should read <jessie> |
| 16:48.29 | knyl | okay |
| 16:48.42 | knyl | Can it be updated? |
| 16:48.42 | mtn | knyl: testing and unstable can be use as a rolling distro, but that is not their purpose |
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| 16:57.56 | bhuvank | I installed compiz in debian sid. when i run compiz --replace in gnome classic it is replacing the default window manager with compiz but when i try to see the configuration window i don't see the fonts |
| 16:58.42 | Trae32566-NE | anyone having issues with sshfs in debian? |
| 16:59.01 | Trae32566-NE | I keep getting an error saying that my syntax is incorrect and it's missing the host, but I know it isn't |
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| 17:00.16 | GNU\colossus | Trae32566-NE, how are you trying to mount? |
| 17:00.33 | joltcan | Trae32566-NE: works fine for me. Can we see your line? |
| 17:00.46 | bhuvank | http://imagebin.org/262658 |
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| 17:03.08 | msn | okay i am really getting bogged down, i have enabled rewrite logs and there is massive amount of rewrites going on the website but the rewrite log is just blank |
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| 17:14.35 | Sevet | gchristensen: yes. installation'll prompt you whether you want to use your own version or the maintainer's one, and compare the differences. the default is to keep yours. |
| 17:14.38 | Miesco_ | Does TextView have a setY method? |
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| 17:16.44 | Miesco_ | Nevermind, the TextView api just wasn't showing it because its in the View api |
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| 17:18.28 | abacosis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:26.43 | silorge | why is Linux so finicky my microphone doesn't even work? |
| 17:27.22 | moof2 | linux finicky and microphone are totally incompatible witheach other |
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| 17:27.52 | jelly-home | silorge: linux can be a mess with audio equipment for various reasons |
| 17:27.55 | silorge | there are two Mics in alsamixer |
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| 17:28.04 | silorge | Mic and Mic 1 |
| 17:28.13 | silorge | PulseAudio only sees the "Mic" one |
| 17:28.59 | silorge | and I suppose Mic 1 is the built in microphone, and I have no idea how to test if it is or not |
| 17:29.38 | moof2 | connect em both |
| 17:29.47 | moof2 | pot em up |
| 17:29.55 | moof2 | see which one makes sound |
| 17:30.06 | moof2 | once you get sound of any kind, |
| 17:30.13 | moof2 | pot one down |
| 17:30.34 | moof2 | if sound still going, you found it... if not, you found it... |
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| 17:31.11 | moof2 | if no sound in any case, make sure you look at all the mixer controls |
| 17:31.47 | silorge | but I can't get arecord to work because pulseaudio spawns every time I run arecord |
| 17:31.51 | moof2 | and, I agree with you... pulseaudio should take all devices found in alsa, and assign them a number |
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| 17:32.15 | moof2 | if not, pulseaudio needs work |
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| 17:34.41 | moof2 | pulseaudio isn't running all the time? not sure what you mean by spawn |
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| 17:35.48 | silorge | moof2: the alsa subsystem launches pulseaudio |
| 17:36.04 | silorge | and yes, Mic 1 is the microphone I want to use |
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| 17:36.27 | moof2 | so you found it? |
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| 17:37.59 | silorge | yes |
| 17:38.13 | silorge | although, pulseaudio does not allow me to use mic 1 |
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| 17:41.28 | ttyS1 | is it possible to create a desktop shortcut to mount a remote ssh files system ? I've been trying this for a long time but I'm not able to do it. I'm using this script http://pastebin.com/zesz63kY that works great from the shell but not when i try to run it as a desktop shortcut. |
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| 17:42.11 | zaltekk | ttyS1: source the users bashrc? |
| 17:42.11 | jeffrin | what is the difference between RFA and ITA ? |
| 17:42.23 | zaltekk | maybe it can't find fusermount too |
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| 17:42.58 | ttyS1 | zaltekk: the script is saved on the user's root home directory |
| 17:44.17 | daemonkeeper | jeffrin: One has an active maintainer who would like to decide whom to hand it over, the latter already found one intending to do so. |
| 17:44.20 | ttyS1 | zaltekk: the program runs just find without any errors if i open a shell and run it. |
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| 17:44.39 | daemonkeeper | (request for adoption vs. intend to adopt) |
| 17:45.31 | zaltekk | ttyS1: that doesn't make it source their bashrc |
| 17:45.48 | ttyS1 | zaltekk: it also looks like it runs ok with the desktop shortcut but when the scripts is done executing it terminates and it undoes anything it has done. it this case it unmounts the file system |
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| 17:46.39 | ttyS1 | zaltekk: should i put the script in bashrc ? |
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| 17:46.47 | zaltekk | no.. |
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| 17:47.02 | jeffrin | daemonkeeper : iam not already active maintainer |
| 17:47.26 | daemonkeeper | I didn't say you was :) |
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| 17:47.35 | reelax | hi, i just downloaded kompozer HTML editor, i ran it as ./kompozer and i get an error : ./run-mozilla.sh: 166: ./run-mozilla.sh: ./kompozer-bin: not found |
| 17:47.39 | reelax | any idea ? |
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| 17:48.08 | jeffrin | daemonkeeper : so is ITA right for me ? |
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| 17:48.36 | daemonkeeper | I don't know what you plan to do. If you want to bring a package to Debian yourself you want ITP |
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| 17:49.08 | AndreeeCZ | hello. I have been given a task to set up an SSH storage server at our school. |
| 17:49.16 | jeffrin | daemonkeeper : i want to take up an orphaned package |
| 17:49.22 | AndreeeCZ | I was thinking about a debian to do this. |
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| 17:49.35 | daemonkeeper | jeffrin: Orphaned as in "O" or as in "RFA"? |
| 17:49.52 | AndreeeCZ | I'm an arch user, but i thought a stable debian would be a good choice, since i have exp with ubuntu. |
| 17:49.56 | AndreeeCZ | what do you think? |
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| 17:52.26 | daemonkeeper | AndreeeCZ: Works for us if it works to you. |
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| 17:52.53 | AndreeeCZ | daemonkeeper, didnt get that |
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| 17:53.33 | jeffrin | daemonkeeper : it is O |
| 17:53.40 | daemonkeeper | jeffrin: Yes, ITA then. |
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| 17:55.09 | jeffrin | daemonkeeper : thanks |
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| 17:55.53 | AndreeeCZ | daemonkeeper, what did you mean by that? |
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| 17:57.18 | AndreeeCZ | also i was thinking about the FS to use. I want something reliable, that the biggest concern. The storage will be storing both lots of small and big files. |
| 17:58.19 | Mackwerk_ | Hello, I am not very experienced with debian, but Debian Lenny is quite old right? How would I go about installing postgres 9.1 on it? It doesn't seem like it's in the package repo? :o |
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| 17:59.12 | daemonkeeper | Mackwerk_: Lenny is not supported anymore, and thus has no PostgreSQL 9.1. |
| 17:59.23 | DammitJim | can one see what application is eating up the CPU within a webservice? |
| 17:59.30 | daemonkeeper | AndreeeCZ: Debian is suitable for your use case. If it pleases you, use it. |
| 17:59.39 | DammitJim | I'm asking from the point of view of the OS... or is that something that needs to be looked at with other applicatino tools? |
| 17:59.43 | Mackwerk_ | daemonkeeper, fantastic :P Thanks, so it's not at all possible to install postgres 9 on it? :o |
| 17:59.51 | daemonkeeper | Mackwerk_: Right. |
| 18:00.00 | Mackwerk_ | daemonkeeper, alright, thanks :) |
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| 18:00.03 | jordanm | AndreeeCZ, ext3/4 will be fine, unless the FS will be larger than 16TB |
| 18:00.06 | daemonkeeper | Mackwerk_: Of course you neither get security support. Or any support really. |
| 18:00.14 | AndreeeCZ | jordanm, ok thx |
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| 18:00.31 | Mackwerk_ | daemonkeeper, I figure :) I guess it's time to upgrade, huh? |
| 18:00.35 | jordanm | Mackwerk, if you upgrade to squeeze, 9.1 is available in backports. squeeze will be supported for about another year |
| 18:00.39 | ksuhku | Lenny was great. RIP |
| 18:00.50 | daemonkeeper | Mackwerk_: Yes. To Squeeze. And then to Wheezy. Then you are up to date :p |
| 18:01.10 | Mackwerk_ | Can I upgrade the machine without deleting all the data? |
| 18:01.18 | daemonkeeper | Yes. This is not Centos |
| 18:01.30 | jordanm | !tell Mackwerk about lenny->squeeze |
| 18:02.00 | jordanm | unfortunately, the upgrades does require two reboots |
| 18:02.15 | Mackwerk_ | reboots aren't a problem :d |
| 18:02.25 | Mackwerk_ | !tell Mackwerk_ about lenny->squeeze |
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| 18:03.39 | silorge | No no Pidgin is so broken |
| 18:03.44 | silorge | It can't use ALSA at all |
| 18:03.58 | silorge | and JackD output has NO audio output to speakers |
| 18:04.11 | silorge | only in the Microphone test part of pidgin do I get any sound output |
| 18:04.29 | silorge | if I am in a voice call I get no sound output |
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| 18:11.22 | Guest46573 | I'm trying to use the wheezy-backport to install the latest kernel (3.9.6.1~bpo70+1). When I try to find it, nothing shows up. I've tried apt-cache -t wheezy-backports search linux-latest but it still points to 3.2.49. Any advice? |
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| 18:12.31 | Guest46573 | sorry, it shows 3.2.46. Filename: pool/main/l/linux-latest/linux-image-amd64_3.2+46_amd64.deb |
| 18:12.38 | jordanm | Guest46573, wheezy doesn't have backports yet |
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| 18:13.32 | Guest46573 | jordanm, I see. So are the backports-new listed here a proposed section? http://backports.debian.org/changes/wheezy-backports.html |
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| 18:15.22 | Guest46573 | jordanm, that also seems odd, that I just installed libreoffice 4.0.3 from the backports? using apt-get -t wheezy-backports install libreoffice |
| 18:15.33 | vasile | I did something incredibly dumb. I installed grub2 to the wrong disk's MBR, overwriting the existing grub2 install. That disk is one big encrypted partition managed by LVM. Is there a way to recover from this? Fortunately, I have a backup of the home dir and most of the entire system, but I don't really want to reinstall and then restore. Any and all help or advice would be appreciated. Thanks! |
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| 18:15.54 | jordanm | ,versions libreoffice |
| 18:15.57 | judd | Package: libreoffice on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1:3.5.4+dfsg-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1:4.0.3-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:4.0.3-3; sid: 1:4.0.4-2; experimental: 1:4.1.0~rc1-1 |
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| 18:16.19 | jordanm | Guest46573, guess there is... I just checked the mirror and didn't see wheezy listed |
| 18:16.23 | jordanm | ,kernels |
| 18:16.24 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.10-rc7-686-pae (3.10~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 3.9-1-686-pae (3.9.6-1); jessie: 3.9-1-686-pae (3.9.6-1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.46-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze3) |
| 18:16.42 | jordanm | Guest46573, doesn't appear to be a kernel backport though |
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| 18:17.09 | Guest46573 | jordanm, that is what I was finding too. Perhaps I'm misinterpreting that page I linked to earlier |
| 18:17.19 | jeffrin | hello all |
| 18:17.33 | jeffrin | i ahve some doubts regarding closing the O bug |
| 18:17.41 | jeffrin | i have some doubts regarding closing the O bug |
| 18:17.58 | jeffrin | http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#howto-o |
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| 18:18.16 | Guest46573 | jordanm, it appears that the 3.9-1 kernel is on its way into the backports at some point? |
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| 18:18.40 | DammitJim | what utility should I use to view the threads being spawned by a java application? |
| 18:18.42 | DammitJim | htop? |
| 18:19.01 | jordanm | Guest46573, looks like it |
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| 18:19.53 | jordanm | jeffrin, bts retitle <bugnum> ITP: somepackage |
| 18:19.54 | Guest46573 | jordanm, what do you make of this? It appears I can download it from the debian.org packages site though. http://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/amd64/linux-image-amd64/download |
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| 18:20.33 | jordanm | Guest46573, maybe you are pointed at a mirror that hasn't synced that package yet? |
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| 18:22.44 | Guest46573 | jordanm, I guess that could be it. Seems odd though, I'm using the ftp.us.debian.org mirror |
| 18:22.59 | jordanm | that's where I just downloaded it from manually |
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| 18:23.15 | jordanm | last guess is it must not be in the package list file on the repo |
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| 18:24.39 | jessa | hi |
| 18:24.43 | Guest46573 | jordanm, do you think that is worthy of a report, or something I should wait out a few days |
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| 18:24.48 | jessa | so nice here |
| 18:25.00 | jordanm | Guest46573, I would wait a day |
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| 18:25.13 | jessa | any asian here |
| 18:25.26 | jessa | well so nice to ne here |
| 18:25.33 | jordanm | jessa, wrong channel |
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| 18:27.10 | putik | hi |
| 18:27.23 | putik | care to chat |
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| 18:28.02 | putik | hi |
| 18:28.14 | putik | any active channel |
| 18:28.21 | th0r | putik, wrong channel |
| 18:28.43 | putik | thor |
| 18:28.46 | putik | why |
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| 18:28.56 | putik | hello |
| 18:29.03 | putik | what channel |
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| 18:29.41 | Alaunus | I'm trying to do a netinstall of Jessie, but I keep getting "no common cd-rom drive was detected" errors. The instructions I've found (for a previous Debian version) have suggested mounting a device manually, but I'm not sure which device to mount with the new installer. Any tips on how to fix this one? |
| 18:29.42 | putik | hi |
| 18:29.47 | bjoernb | mtn: i have looked in /var/log/aptitude but found none removals that had something to do with icon-themes |
| 18:29.56 | jeffrin | jordanm : anyway thanks |
| 18:30.27 | putik | what a day |
| 18:30.49 | putik | how i wish i can help feed poor children |
| 18:30.56 | mtn | bjoernb: did you also look in /var/log/apt? might be in there, too. otherwise, I don't know where to look. |
| 18:31.01 | ompaul | !debian |
| 18:31.02 | dpkg | debian is probably http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
| 18:31.08 | abrotman | putik: do you need help with Debian ? |
| 18:31.18 | ompaul | putik: read those - this is a help channel for debian nothing else |
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| 18:31.37 | putik | whag should i do |
| 18:31.49 | bjoernb | mtn: yes i did look there as well. nothing with icon themes |
| 18:31.49 | putik | how do i get toa chat channel |
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| 18:34.04 | cwickert | how to file a bug when the syste in question cannot send mail and I don't have reportbug installed on the system I'm working with? |
| 18:34.23 | TomyLobo | "syntax error: unknown group 'Debian-exim' in statoverride file" - google suggests (and "cat /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride" seems to confirm this) to do "dpkg-statoverride --remove /etc/exim4/passwd.client", but that just gives me the same error again. is it safe to just remove the entry from "/var/lib/dpkg/statoverride"? |
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| 18:37.54 | jordanm | cwickert, you can send an email from anywhere to submit@bugs.debian.org |
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| 18:38.20 | bjoernb | perhaps the easiest way would be to completely uninstall gnome and install it again. how do i do that? |
| 18:38.21 | jordanm | cwickert, you don't have to have a working MTA, reportbug even has a --mua option |
| 18:38.46 | mtn | bjoernb: use synaptic, which is your package manager |
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| 18:39.00 | cwickert | jordanm: I don't have reportbug available. and I don't have a mua on the machine in question |
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| 18:39.30 | jordanm | cwickert, why do you need to file the bug from that machine? do you have a web browser? is it even connected to the internet? |
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| 18:40.35 | cwickert | jordanm: the machine in question does not have a webbrowser, reportbug, a mua, mta and cannot send mail, but it is connected to the internet. my desktop has everything but reportbug |
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| 18:40.49 | jordanm | cwickert, so file the bug from your desktop |
| 18:40.53 | Ephexeve | Hey guys, any idea what is the problem here? http://bpaste.net/show/fX0cqAYBz15ve0iEMbRq/ |
| 18:40.54 | cwickert | how? |
| 18:40.59 | Ephexeve | trying to install Mysql-server and client.. |
| 18:41.10 | jordanm | cwickert, via email to submit@bugs.debian.org |
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| 18:41.50 | cwickert | jordanm: but this will endup *somewhere* if it doesn't follow the correct syntax |
| 18:41.51 | jordanm | cwickert, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 18:42.12 | cwickert | jordanm: I know that page, it doesn't list anything but reportbug, at least the german version |
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| 18:42.38 | jordanm | cwickert, the english version does, and you seem to speak english |
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| 18:43.01 | jordanm | Ephexeve, that link doesn't load for me. use paste.debian.net |
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| 18:43.14 | Ephexeve | Ok |
| 18:43.26 | TomyLobo | When doing anything with dpkg, I get "syntax error: unknown group 'Debian-exim' in statoverride file" - google suggests (and "cat /var/lib/dpkg/statoverride" seems to confirm this) to do "dpkg-statoverride --remove /etc/exim4/passwd.client", but that just gives me the same error again. is it safe to just remove the entry from "/var/lib/dpkg/statoverride"? |
| 18:43.34 | Ephexeve | jordanm: http://paste.debian.net/13011/ here |
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| 18:44.25 | jordanm | Ephexeve, looks like an icomplete download of the package |
| 18:44.32 | Ephexeve | interesting.. |
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| 18:44.36 | Ephexeve | How can this happen? |
| 18:44.46 | jordanm | Ephexeve, bad mirror or ?? |
| 18:44.56 | jordanm | anyways, the deb you have is only a partial download |
| 18:45.03 | Ephexeve | well, I installed many stuff on the same mirror, seems fine.. |
| 18:45.43 | jordanm | Ephexeve, apt-get clean will remove the downloaded package, or you can rm /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-client-5.5_5.5.31+dfsg-0+wheezy1_amd64.deb manually. it will download again when you try to install |
| 18:45.47 | Ephexeve | doing a apt-get update seems to work fine |
| 18:45.50 | Ephexeve | Ok, let me try |
| 18:47.36 | Ephexeve | jordanm: That seemed to fix it, this happens because of a bad mirror or so? I've just installed debian, I noticed that in Chromium pages are crashing a lot "Ops, something went wrong" I had the same problem in gentoo with the same machine |
| 18:47.51 | Ephexeve | at first I thought it was hardware, but I am not sure, seeing this error of mysql made me wonder |
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| 18:48.23 | jordanm | Ephexeve, could be some kind of bad networking hardware |
| 18:48.29 | jordanm | nic, switch, router, etc |
| 18:49.04 | Ephexeve | Perhaps, I am runnign chromium on the through the terminal now, I wanna see if it gives me a traceback when a page crashes, then I will have a better idea |
| 18:49.09 | Ephexeve | anyway, thanks for the mysql help |
| 18:49.15 | Ephexeve | seems to be working fine here. |
| 18:49.27 | Ephexeve | ah! |
| 18:49.32 | Ephexeve | another problem, now with mongodb |
| 18:49.49 | Ephexeve | http://paste.debian.net/13012/ |
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| 18:50.56 | jordanm | Ephexeve, yeah, that's another corrupt download... |
| 18:51.01 | Ephexeve | Hmmm, weird |
| 18:51.10 | Ephexeve | apt-get update doesnt say anything.. |
| 18:51.13 | Ephexeve | very strange |
| 18:51.28 | Ephexeve | I am coming to the conclusion that this is a hd problem |
| 18:51.31 | jordanm | update just downloads Package files, not the .debs themselves |
| 18:51.54 | Ephexeve | yeah, but if it was a mirror problem it would say, wouldn't it? |
| 18:52.03 | jordanm | Ephexeve, tune2fs -l /dev/sda1 |
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| 18:52.25 | jordanm | Ephexeve, no, not unless there was a problem with the package file |
| 18:53.11 | Ephexeve | Hmm, tune2fs? |
| 18:53.14 | Ephexeve | what does that do? |
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| 18:54.17 | jordanm | Ephexeve, changes or shows ext2/3/4 filesystem params |
| 18:54.20 | Ephexeve | jordanm: http://paste.debian.net/13014/ |
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| 18:54.37 | jordanm | Ephexeve, smartctl -a /dev/sda |
| 18:55.29 | Ephexeve | Ok, sec |
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| 18:57.55 | Ephexeve | jordanm: http://paste.debian.net/13015/ |
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| 18:59.11 | jordanm | Ephexeve, disk is fine |
| 18:59.16 | Ephexeve | Yeah |
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| 18:59.50 | Ephexeve | Well, I will see in the later future what happens. Thanks though |
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| 19:00.33 | maladmin | hi, can anyone help me understand what happened to xorg.conf? |
| 19:00.39 | Ephexeve | ah, btw, I am using Debian 7, but I see that the sudo is a older version than I use in my Arch machine, so I usually have something like this; %sudo ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/apt-get |
| 19:00.55 | Ephexeve | but it doesn't seem to work, do you know the syntax for it? I don't want a password when using apt-get |
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| 19:34.35 | alusion | What can I use to seal a broken USB port |
| 19:34.41 | alusion | hot glue / epoxy / electric tape ? |
| 19:34.49 | alusion | can I use hot glue? |
| 19:35.00 | qwae | Can't install exim4. aptitude -v says that there is no group called Debian-exim. |
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| 19:37.16 | teus | hi, i need help with installing eagle. i can't install it anymore after i messed around with multi-arch and updates. log output at http://paste.debian.net/13022/ |
| 19:37.36 | teus | a bunch of i386 packages that cant be installed |
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| 19:44.06 | Glorf | hello |
| 19:44.16 | babilen | \o |
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| 19:46.03 | Glorf | I'm curently using iceweasel 10.X (from wheezy), is there an easy way to upgrade it to the sid/experimental version ? I tried with aptitude install iceweasel/sid but he want to delete gnome-core, which doesn't seems cool |
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| 19:47.17 | babilen | Glorf: Check http://mozilla.debian.net for information on how to install different iceweasel versions. wheezy-security should have the 17.* ESR release though. |
| 19:47.25 | babilen | judd: v iceweasel |
| 19:47.26 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 10.0.12esr-1; jessie: 10.0.12esr-1+nmu1; wheezy-security: 17.0.7esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 17.0.7esr-1; experimental: 22.0-1 |
| 19:48.02 | Glorf | i will try with wheezy-security first |
| 19:48.38 | babilen | Glorf: Use mo.d.n if you want to track firefox releases (it would get you 21 or 22 right now IIRC) |
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| 20:05.52 | bjoernb | what packages do i need to have a fully functioning gnome? i installed the package gnome and all dependencies but however all icons are not working. |
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| 20:08.37 | bjoernb | gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface icon-theme |
| 20:08.37 | bjoernb | 'gnome' |
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| 20:11.06 | bjoernb | at /usr/share/icons/gnome there are plenty svg icons |
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| 20:27.48 | tgs3 | how to run over VNC application that need OpenGL? yes, I know it will be slow |
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| 20:28.44 | GNU\colossus | tgs3, check out virtualgl - don't know if there's support for it in Debian though |
| 20:28.56 | realf | I am trying to install Debian on 13" mid 2012 Macbook (dual boot). When I tried to use rEFInd's gptsync tool, it displayed: "Error: Not Found returned from gptsync_x64.efi". Also, GPT and MBR partitions are not shown. I created a hybrid MBR with GPT fdisk, and tried rEFInd's gptsync again, but it showed the same error message. How do I sync GPT and MBR with GPT fdisk (maybe someone experienced the same problem)? |
| 20:29.08 | GNU\colossus | I was playing Quake 3 Arena in 1080p, high detail over virtualgl-enabled VNC with 60fps in 2009 |
| 20:29.38 | tgs3 | GNU\colossus: yes I found about it too but it seems to not be in debian. |
| 20:29.58 | tgs3 | GNU\colossus: btw, I would rather have the rendering be done on remote, the local think client does not have opengl in X either |
| 20:30.37 | GNU\colossus | afaik, virtualgl uses libjpeg-turbo on the client to decode some sort of embedded mjpeg stream |
| 20:30.48 | GNU\colossus | could be wrong though, I never looked at it in true detail |
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| 20:31.09 | tgs3 | GNU\colossus: on what os you have it ifd not debian:? |
| 20:31.12 | tgs3 | or you built from source? |
| 20:31.34 | GNU\colossus | I don't know for sure what platform was used, probably SLES with HEAVY modifications (HPC environment) |
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| 20:34.29 | grmpy | ha, wie geil ist das denn. da reist man bis ans ende des internetzes in dieses irc, und trifft diesen GNU\colossus aus dem pq-forum wieder :D |
| 20:35.01 | GNU\colossus | grmpy, ja, sowas kommt vor ;) |
| 20:35.06 | qwae | Exim4 will not install. I just want drupal7. Is there a way to configure drupal7 without exim? http://pastebin.com/k8fhUetY |
| 20:35.13 | grmpy | hier (nKn.mephisto) und so |
| 20:35.18 | GNU\colossus | oha!!! |
| 20:35.22 | GNU\colossus | :wave: |
| 20:35.37 | GNU\colossus | und was verschlaegt dich in den channel hier? berufliches? :) |
| 20:36.35 | grmpy | nur so halb.. bin zwar auch ein *nix-kacknerd geworden (auch beruflich), aber hier idle ich nur um meinen e-penis zu vergrößern :D |
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| 20:37.15 | grmpy | ich hatte mir mehr davon versprochen wieder ins irc zurückzukehren. eben habe ich es nur aus langeweile gestartet, aber als ich deinen nick grade gesehen habe hat der abend ja doch noch eine gute wende genommen ;D |
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| 20:39.27 | GNU\colossus | grmpy, freut mich dass du dich freust, mich wiederzusehen :) die freudige freude ist auch ganz auf meiner freu.. seite :) |
| 20:39.57 | GNU\colossus | hast du sonst noch mit feinen pq.de-menschen kontakt? oder haengst du gar noch ab und an im forum ab? |
| 20:40.12 | joltcan | qwae: you probably just need an MTA installed, since drupal wants to send email |
| 20:40.35 | joltcan | qwae: so install exim or any other MTA you seem fit. exim is default in debian |
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| 20:40.47 | grmpy | hab letztens beim umziehen einen alten brief (ja, auf papier) gefunden, den ich netron geschickt hatte und er mir zurück. darin haben wir von hand eine syntaktisch fast korrekte irssi-irc-unterhaltung festgehalten ;D |
| 20:41.15 | grmpy | daraufhin hab ich ihn kontaktiert und ein bisschen rumgealbert. wir haben festgestellt, dass wir irgendwie alt und reif geworden sind |
| 20:41.39 | grmpy | tatsächlich hat er auch dich und deinen aktuellen arbeitgeber erwähnt, den ich grade auf deiner website validieren konnte ;) |
| 20:41.46 | GNU\colossus | ja, mit netron hab ich sporadisch immer mal wieder kontakt |
| 20:42.04 | GNU\colossus | der ist jetzt maschinenbau-checker oder so |
| 20:42.12 | grmpy | aber sonst hab ich mit keinem mehr kontakt... war mal letztens im forum, aber da sind ja teilweise noch topics von vor 4 jahren auf der startseite |
| 20:42.20 | GNU\colossus | ich wusste es damals immer schon; wir sind die elite von uebermorgen D: |
| 20:42.23 | GNU\colossus | hehe ja |
| 20:42.28 | GNU\colossus | ich schau auch alle paar wochen vorbei |
| 20:42.29 | grmpy | ja, und reist einfach um die welt um dinge ein- bzw auszumessen |
| 20:42.37 | GNU\colossus | ich weisz aber nie, welche meiner accounts jetzt gebannt sind :ugly: |
| 20:42.42 | GNU\colossus | posten ist also schwierig |
| 20:43.09 | grmpy | wieviele hast/hattest du? ;D |
| 20:43.33 | grmpy | ich war froh, dass mein einer account nicht an einem expire-tot gestorben ist |
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| 20:43.47 | yareckon | hi guys |
| 20:43.55 | GNU\colossus | grmpy, mindestens drei... |
| 20:44.01 | GNU\colossus | ich hab irgendwann den ueberblick verloren |
| 20:44.02 | yareckon | need some help with ext4 resize |
| 20:44.12 | GNU\colossus | yareckon, what's the problem? |
| 20:44.27 | yareckon | I'm in the position of likely having lost some data because resize2fs reports that it resized the filesystem |
| 20:44.36 | yareckon | but doesn't seem to rewrite the superblock |
| 20:44.39 | grmpy | sehr gut GNU\colossus, machst so voll crazye it-sachen und verlierst bei 3 pq-accounts den überblick ;D |
| 20:45.04 | yareckon | and then I do an lvm resize.... and chop off the end of my fs |
| 20:45.24 | yareckon | I've just "accidentally" done this to my home and my root filesystems |
| 20:45.29 | moof2 | yareckon, so you are shrinking the lv? |
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| 20:45.31 | GNU\colossus | yareckon, if you have LVM in the first place, why don't you let lvresize handle everything for you in a foolproof manner in the first place? :/ |
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| 20:45.41 | GNU\colossus | grmpy, tja :D |
| 20:45.56 | yareckon | because I used to do this before lvresize offered that feature I believe |
| 20:46.08 | yareckon | and because tutorials on the internet don't do it that way |
| 20:46.21 | GNU\colossus | oh, I see. it's on the internet, it must be true. |
| 20:46.26 | yareckon | yeah, I read the manpage after the fact and kicked myself |
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| 20:46.53 | yareckon | I also love it that they report GiB and accept GB on the commandline |
| 20:46.53 | GNU\colossus | do you have backups? these great tutorials surely tell you to make those before you resize a filesystem, right? ;) |
| 20:47.01 | yareckon | yeah they do |
| 20:47.06 | moof2 | yareckon, if you're shrinking the filesystem, you did it in the right order (first shrink the contained filesystem, then the containing lv) |
| 20:47.12 | yareckon | yeah |
| 20:47.28 | yareckon | the issue is resize2fs reporting success |
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| 20:48.11 | moof2 | and, just making sure, you -are- shrinking? |
| 20:48.29 | yareckon | sudo resize2fs /dev/dm-1 20G |
| 20:48.40 | yareckon | Resizing the filesystem on /dev/dm-1 to 5242880 |
| 20:48.53 | yareckon | The filesystem on /dev/dm-1 is now 5242880 blocks long. |
| 20:49.07 | yareckon | but later after lvreduce.... |
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| 20:50.03 | yareckon | ah crap |
| 20:50.08 | GNU\colossus | lvresize... |
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| 20:50.29 | GNU\colossus | lvresize -r, indeed |
| 20:50.56 | moof2 | for me, the reason why growing is easier, is you would grow the lv and then resize2fs senses the size of the container |
| 20:51.25 | GNU\colossus | aw gawd, just use lvresize, it will do everything automagically, and it will just work. |
| 20:51.32 | yareckon | yeah no shit |
| 20:51.46 | yareckon | sorry dunno if this channel is PG |
| 20:51.59 | yareckon | sorry 11 year old debian folks |
| 20:52.00 | GNU\colossus | did you mount the damaged fs rw in the meantime? |
| 20:52.05 | yareckon | no |
| 20:52.18 | yareckon | ah... looks like this was user erro |
| 20:52.31 | yareckon | as usual |
| 20:52.31 | GNU\colossus | so shoot an lvresize -r |
| 20:52.42 | GNU\colossus | and fsck the resulting fs/blockdevice |
| 20:52.45 | moof2 | is there a command you can run to determine total number of blocks in an fs including everything? |
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| 20:54.30 | GNU\colossus | you'll have to use fs-specific tools for that |
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| 20:55.35 | moof2 | and lvresize would too then, yes? |
| 20:56.02 | grmpy | so GNU\colossus, ich verabschiede mich mal. vielleicht komm ich aber einfach mal wieder und man sieht sich ;) |
| 20:56.14 | GNU\colossus | grmpy, ja, schau wieder mal vorbei, dann plaudern wir gerne laenger! :) |
| 20:56.22 | GNU\colossus | schoenen abend noch! |
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| 20:56.37 | grmpy | danke, dir euch :) |
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| 20:57.36 | Ephexeve | Hey guys, I am trying to get apt-get working wihtout a password in sudo, how can I do this? |
| 20:57.57 | moof2 | be root when you do it |
| 20:58.12 | GNU\colossus | Ephexeve, bad idea. don't do it. |
| 20:58.14 | moof2 | not-password for root is NOT recommended |
| 20:58.19 | Ephexeve | No no no |
| 20:58.22 | Ephexeve | just for apt-get |
| 20:58.40 | moof2 | same thing, not recommended |
| 20:58.56 | Ephexeve | yeah I know, just writting a 15 char password everytime kinda sucks |
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| 20:59.14 | Ephexeve | I had the same thing in arch, so I added %sudo ALL(ALL) NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/pacman |
| 20:59.16 | GNU\colossus | how often do you really need that? |
| 20:59.19 | Ephexeve | but in debian doesn't seem ot work |
| 20:59.24 | Ephexeve | I install a lot of stuff |
| 20:59.24 | moof2 | it's your passwd (not root's) |
| 20:59.28 | moof2 | you can change it |
| 20:59.29 | Ephexeve | Exactly |
| 20:59.34 | GNU\colossus | it works the same way, if your groups are set up properly |
| 20:59.39 | qwae | joltcan: drupal7 depends on the default-mta |
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| 20:59.52 | Ephexeve | Yeah, but my user has admin priv, so I don't want to have anything else without password |
| 20:59.58 | Ephexeve | just when doing sudo apt-get install bla bla bla |
| 21:00.37 | moof2 | that can cause I/O and disk space change |
| 21:01.21 | moof2 | you've been given a hint :) |
| 21:01.34 | Ephexeve | uh? |
| 21:01.38 | Ephexeve | was that for me? |
| 21:01.52 | moof2 | it's your passwd (not root's) |
| 21:02.25 | Ephexeve | ah I know |
| 21:02.37 | Ephexeve | but when doing sudo apt-get I have to put my user's password, and I don't want |
| 21:02.50 | Ephexeve | I mean, I want sudo with password, but just for a specific program I don't |
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| 21:03.18 | moof2 | I don't believe sudo works that way... |
| 21:03.20 | moof2 | however |
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| 21:03.55 | Ephexeve | Fixed! |
| 21:03.55 | xhip | r |
| 21:04.04 | Ephexeve | %sudo ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt-get |
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| 21:04.47 | xhip | hi guys, I've a question. How can I make a autorun script on the boot? like apt-get update; apt-get upgrade .. can you help me? |
| 21:05.02 | qwae | alright, installing sendmail-bin after searching mail-transport-agent |
| 21:05.33 | joltcan | xhip: I would recommend using unattended-upgrades or something, and then call that from the startup script |
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| 21:05.46 | moof2 | you could generate a key pair that has no pass phrase |
| 21:06.03 | xhip | so I don't need to put a script on here: /etc/init.d/script.sh ? |
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| 21:08.00 | joltcan | xhip: not sure if I like the idea, but I would put "/usr/bin/unattended-upgrade >/dev/null 2>&1 &" in /etc/rc.local (just before exit 0) |
| 21:09.43 | xhip | okay I try that way.. btw can you teach me what this will do? like "unattended-upgrade" is.. ? why /dev/null is that empty (null)? |
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| 21:11.13 | yareckon | ok, so there is life after chopping off the end of your filesystems |
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| 21:11.27 | yareckon | you just increase the lv size again |
| 21:11.44 | kazagistar | anyone know why gnome is so far behind on debian? |
| 21:11.54 | yareckon | and if you haven't moved anth other crap around |
| 21:11.57 | yareckon | things still work |
| 21:12.15 | xhip | okay I try that way.. btw can you teach me what this will do? like "unattended-upgrade" is.. ? why /dev/null is that empty (null)? joltcan |
| 21:12.18 | yareckon | kazagistar, in the last couple days parts of gnome jumped from 3.4 -> 3.8 in testing |
| 21:12.29 | yareckon | lots of packages are still on 3.4 though |
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| 21:13.23 | bronaugh | so, I me-too'd a bug that causes a real problem for us; and there's been no response from the maintainer. what's the best course of action? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=689426 |
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| 21:14.53 | joltcan | xhip: unattended-upgrade can produce a bunch of output, and you don't want that in your startup script or blocking the startup, so the stuff after (>/dev/null 2>&1) will send all output from unattended-upgrade to nowhere (dev/null is a black hole), and then after that I added a "&" sign, so that it starts and forks, and fork means that it won't block the startup, so that you can continue to login |
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| 21:15.49 | joltcan | xhip: unattended-upgrade is a package you need to install. It looks at the available packages and installs them. Normally that would run automatically ones per day, but I assumed you had a specific requirement to do it at startup |
| 21:15.58 | xhip | :D awesome joltcan thanks for having the time to explain that |
| 21:16.35 | joltcan | xhip: not sure if it's the best solution, but it's one solution. Good luck, I'm going to bed now. |
| 21:16.43 | xhip | so I need to apt-get install unattended-upgrade |
| 21:16.49 | xhip | Okay thanks again joltcan |
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| 21:23.56 | Th0masR0ss | 16 |
| 21:24.34 | mtn | ThoMe: no, 42 is the answer |
| 21:24.50 | mtn | Th0masR0ss: that was for you :P |
| 21:24.58 | Th0masR0ss | mtn: no |
| 21:25.02 | Th0masR0ss | it's 2 |
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| 21:25.13 | mtn | Th0masR0ss: no way! |
| 21:25.25 | Th0masR0ss | mtn: yes way |
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| 21:26.12 | Th0masR0ss | mtn: https://www.google.ca/search?q=2%2B2 |
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| 21:27.12 | bronaugh | no it's 76 |
| 21:27.21 | bronaugh | (because 7*6=42) |
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| 21:56.56 | atannus | I would like to be able to refer to all computers on my local network by name.domain; I've been doing this by editing each computer's hosts file but that is hard to maintain. DNS would be another solution but not much easier to maintain (plus require the DNS machine to be always up). Is there another way? |
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| 21:58.08 | jordanm | atannus, avahi or some other mdns solution |
| 21:59.16 | Arrowmaster | DNS is the only option that is guarantied to work on all hosts |
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| 21:59.42 | atannus | jordanm, thanks, will take a look at it. |
| 21:59.50 | Arrowmaster | and DNS is easy to maintain if you integrate it with DHCP |
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| 22:00.08 | jordanm | atannus, I just looked at it again, it appears it may only work with avahi-aware programs |
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| 22:00.35 | jordanm | although, that shouldn't be the case if you use mdns in nsswitch.conf |
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| 22:00.50 | Arrowmaster | that would only work on linux hosts |
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| 22:01.21 | atannus | Arrowmaster, but it does require a certain machine (the dns) to be up, correct? I wish I could use my router as a dns. |
| 22:01.38 | Arrowmaster | what router model |
| 22:02.00 | atannus | Arrowmaster, I've checked, I don't see the option in the web interface... |
| 22:02.28 | Arrowmaster | ive got a wrt54gl running custom firmware that does dns |
| 22:02.29 | jordanm | you can put 3rd party firmware on many routers |
| 22:02.51 | jordanm | many more than just wrt54gl, but that's a popular choice |
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| 22:03.01 | Arrowmaster | every host is accessible by name from every other host |
| 22:03.22 | xtuh | Hi, how to show information e.g. IP address bfore console login prompt ? |
| 22:03.45 | atannus | Arrowmaster, no they're not. |
| 22:03.56 | atannus | Oh, you mean by your router... (?) |
| 22:04.02 | Arrowmaster | yeah on mine |
| 22:04.12 | xtuh | I have saw that on ubuntu predefined VMs. |
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| 22:04.28 | jordanm | xtuh, see motd.tail(5) |
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| 22:05.36 | atannus | Hmmm... Could I configure my host DNS with my local machine names and the dmz IPs? |
| 22:06.02 | xtuh | jordanm: so i just need to install and configute motd package? its really can show me current IP BEFORE login |
| 22:06.46 | jordanm | xtuh, I am not aware of how to do that |
| 22:07.02 | jordanm | xtuh, I just SSHed to a ubuntu system and it shows that info after login |
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| 22:07.45 | xtuh | jordanm: i need to see some info on screen BEFORE login. |
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| 22:08.12 | jordanm | xtuh, via SSH? |
| 22:08.34 | xtuh | no, on the vga monitor |
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| 22:09.40 | jordanm | xtuh, then just add some echo statements to /etc/rc.local, that's executed last |
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| 22:12.51 | xtuh | jordanm: thanks |
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| 22:32.21 | snoopybbt | hi people! my debian computer segfaults with this: http://i.imgur.com/ISRijbf.jpg does that mean a ram stick is broken ? |
| 22:33.16 | abrotman | it could mean a number of things .. run memtest overnight |
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| 22:33.41 | snoopybbt | uhm... ok |
| 22:33.52 | snoopybbt | abrotman: is memtest on the debian dvd ? |
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| 22:36.04 | abrotman | snoopybbt: dunno, but you can easily download it |
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| 22:55.04 | snoopybbt | abrotman: yes, i actually have bad ram blocks |
| 22:55.15 | snoopybbt | porco ... |
| 22:55.17 | abrotman | that's fun |
| 22:56.13 | snoopybbt | abrotman: can you believe i have a spare ram stick, same size, same frequency, same everything except size ? it won't fit for something like 0.5mm extra plastics |
| 22:56.24 | snoopybbt | abrotman: i've rarely felt so angry |
| 22:57.26 | abrotman | you said same size! |
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| 22:59.43 | snoopybbt | abrotman: i meant size in megabytes |
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| 23:00.56 | KWhat_Work | Hi! Does debian support java? And I mean really support it, as in maven works properly and things like that java class path behave correctly and are not hijacked by a system class path? |
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| 23:01.44 | KWhat_Work | do docs exist and are they maintained in regards to java integration? |
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| 23:05.16 | abrotman | we have multiple java implementations, and a java team? |
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| 23:06.24 | KWhat_Work | aboudreault: so does gentoo, but my problem is they dont work on gentoo ;) |
| 23:06.56 | abrotman | so try them on Debian? |
| 23:07.25 | jelly-home | abrotman: I think he thinks we know what works or does not work in Debian |
| 23:07.36 | abrotman | there's a whole BTS? |
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| 23:07.37 | shadows | I sure could use a helping hand to guide me through the RFS process to update the libcdio package to its current stable release 0.90 ; I have packaged it but I don't know how to submit for review or upload on mentors mailing list |
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| 23:07.52 | jelly-home | KWhat_Work: short answer: we don't know, at least noone awake at present does |
| 23:08.23 | petn-randall | shadows: Check out #debian-mentors on oftc.net, there's a whole channel about packaging for Debian. |
| 23:08.35 | shadows | copy, petn-randall |
| 23:08.52 | jelly-home | KWhat_Work: I use mvn packaging, but with oracle java, never even tried to build stuff with the jdk present in the distro. |
| 23:08.53 | petn-randall | shadows: They can probably help you a lot better :) |
| 23:08.53 | KWhat_Work | sounds like a good place to start |
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| 23:09.35 | abrotman | KWhat_Work: i think there's a #debian-java on irc.oftc.net |
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| 23:17.31 | bosss | oh wow holy shit |
| 23:17.49 | bosss | totally guessed the channel/server |
| 23:18.08 | someguy_999 | anyone have a pressed file working fine for a local mirror |
| 23:18.11 | someguy_999 | ?? |
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| 23:18.50 | bosss | I have a question, guys. Everytime I try and install a package, I get "cannot execute binary file |
| 23:19.27 | abrotman | use a pastebin please |
| 23:20.23 | bosss | me? |
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| 23:20.44 | bosss | I really don't have anything to paste |
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| 23:21.34 | bosss | for instance, kvirc. I would type "su root apt-get install kvirc" and it returns "cannot execute binary file" |
| 23:21.50 | bosss | any ideas? |
| 23:22.09 | Th0masR0ss | why not "sudo apt-get ..." |
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| 23:22.43 | jelly-home | bash: sudo: command not found |
| 23:22.49 | lotia | Hi all. Building kernel packages for latest stable kernel using make-kpkg. Kernel appears to work fine, however the initramfs generated with the kernel doesn't appear to activate lvm when booting. |
| 23:22.52 | bosss | because I would need to use a root user |
| 23:22.59 | nkuttler | jelly-home: good for you |
| 23:23.03 | pan_ | can anyone recommend a gui for adjusting mouse sensitivity? |
| 23:23.09 | Th0masR0ss | jelly-home: su |
| 23:23.20 | erai | boss: try su root -c apt-get install ... |
| 23:23.20 | Th0masR0ss | jelly-home: apt-get install sudo |
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| 23:23.21 | lotia | Doing a vgscan -a y from the rescue/emergency shell and exiting allows boot to continue |
| 23:23.27 | lotia | any thoughts? |
| 23:23.59 | jelly-home | bosss: the correct syntax would be, su root -c 'apt-get install kvirc' |
| 23:24.01 | mersault | I've been running a wheezy (at the time, testing) install as a dom0 for Xen for a long time now, and it's generally been rock solid. Then in the last couple of weeks it's gotten flaky on me - crashing frequently, often more than one a day. I realized I was still on testing (which had become jessie), so I re-installed with wheezy, but the problem remains. Hard crash, no output in the logs. 10 times in the last 24 hours. Anyone have any suggestions on |
| 23:24.01 | mersault | where to start? |
| 23:24.21 | zaltekk | lotia: did you include LVM in the initramfs? |
| 23:24.24 | bosss | Thanks Jelly-home |
| 23:24.37 | bosss | it at least did something different so I'll read up a bit |
| 23:24.54 | jelly-home | Th0masR0ss: use jelly is not allowed to run the command. This incident will be reported. |
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| 23:25.33 | jelly-home | Th0masR0ss: the point was, don't assume people have sudo installed and configured. |
| 23:25.57 | Th0masR0ss | jelly-home: root@jelly-home~# |
| 23:26.23 | jelly-home | Th0masR0ss: yes, that's a good answer to <Th0masR0ss> why not "sudo apt-get ..." |
| 23:26.44 | Th0masR0ss | ok |
| 23:27.38 | lotia | zaltekk: seems like it since the rescue shell runs within the initramfs and I can manually run a vgscan -ay and other lvm tools within the rescue shell |
| 23:28.18 | zaltekk | oh, lotia, the kernel modeline |
| 23:28.24 | zaltekk | i think you tell it there too |
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| 23:29.35 | zaltekk | maybe i thinking of LUKS though |
| 23:29.37 | zaltekk | i always use both |
| 23:29.53 | zaltekk | root=/dev/mapper/<name> |
| 23:30.10 | lotia | zaltekk: yes, present for both |
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| 23:30.36 | lotia | in /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 23:31.17 | zaltekk | my laptop is at home so i can't directly reference |
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| 23:31.56 | lotia | zaltekk: thanks for your help |
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| 23:41.24 | mersault | I've got a debian (wheezy) server that's crashing frequently (10 times in the last 24 hours). I get nothing in the logs. It's a fresh (re)install on some older but solid hardware. The server is a Xen host (dom0) that's been running Xen for about five years now without much trouble. Anyone have any suggestions about where to start looking? |
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| 23:42.39 | abrotman | sounds like hardware |
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| 23:44.11 | jelly-home | mersault: which kernel was in use, back when it worked? |
| 23:44.37 | jelly-home | do you have a serial console or some other way to grab kernel panic messages? |
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| 23:45.46 | mersault | jelly-home: that was my thinking. the original install was squeeze, but I'd moved to testing a long time ago for some reason - I used the host as a mythtv backend for a little bit. when the crashing started I realized I was still on testing, which had unfrozen after the wheezy release and I was running jessie. Figured I |
| 23:45.59 | mersault | would re-install with wheezy again, since I'd been stable with that for a long time. |
| 23:46.05 | mersault | but the problem persists. |
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| 23:46.54 | mersault | so it was something close to what I'm running now. |
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| 23:47.17 | mersault | I did however try running the older wheezy kernel with the jessie install, but that didn't help. |
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| 23:48.06 | mersault | I never got a kernel panic message because my console (vga) would go to powersave mode and wouldn't capture it. I've disabled powersave mode, but now when I check my logs I see it rebooted several times - but rebooted, not locked and waited. |
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| 23:48.25 | mersault | still not sure why it's rebooting now instead of just hanging |
| 23:49.53 | mersault | jelly-home: unfortunately I don't have a serial console I can use (I have serial output, but nothing to connect on the other end) |
| 23:50.09 | error3_ | mersault: you should check the sysctl option kernel.panic |
| 23:50.21 | error3_ | that's a reason why it could reboot on a kernel panic |
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| 23:50.46 | mersault | all options starting with kernel.panic are set to 0 |
| 23:51.51 | error3_ | do you have some sort of watchdog stuff? |
| 23:52.04 | error3_ | sysctl -a|grep watchdog? |
| 23:52.16 | error3_ | don't know if it's actually working on a panic, but who knows... |
| 23:52.17 | mersault | I've configured the following on the host: xen, grub, netatalk, nfs, and samba. |
| 23:53.19 | mersault | kernel watchdog settings are 1 or 10 |
| 23:53.39 | mersault | the threshold is 10 |
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| 23:55.02 | mersault | I was really hoping to get through the summer with this hardware… winter is the right time to build a new system, not cottage season. |
| 23:56.09 | error3_ | are you sure there's a kernel panic? |
| 23:57.07 | error3_ | however, I'm not sure watchdogs mechanism where turned on before recently |
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| 23:57.14 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 23:57.15 | lenswipe | can someone help me? |
| 23:57.20 | error3_ | maybe :) |
| 23:57.25 | lenswipe | I'm having problems printing from debian to debian |
| 23:57.34 | error3_ | do you have a printer? |
| 23:57.40 | error3_ | :] |
| 23:57.58 | lenswipe | error3_, http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120930201322/fairytail/images/3/30/You_don't_say.png |
| 23:57.59 | error3_ | more seriously, how do you print? |
| 23:58.00 | lenswipe | no, it's a scanner |
| 23:58.24 | error3_ | are you able to scan localy? |
| 23:58.36 | jelly-home | mersault: could you try using a squeeze kernel with current userspace, just to see what happens? |
| 23:58.41 | lenswipe | error3_, i was being sarcy |
| 23:59.08 | mersault | error3_: not positive it's a kernel panic. like I said, I couldn't see anything on my monitor, and now that I've fixed that it seems the system is content to just reboot rather than wait for me to inspect. but previous to the rebooting behaviour I'd have the following symptoms: unresponsive on all ports and to icmp, kerboard input would not bring the monitor out of powersave mode. |
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| 23:59.52 | mersault | jelly-home: sure. what's the easiest/cleanest way to pull that off? just grab a .deb and dpkg -i, or is there some apt-get-fu I could use? |
