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| 00:26.01 | simply1 | phy1729: i'd like to use pubkey. Whats the fingerprint ? |
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| 00:27.48 | simply1 | i reinstalled ssh server on the server and pubkey changed and i got a warning that it has been changed. How do i make sure this is not a man in the middle ? check if the finger print on the server matches the one shown on client screen ? |
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| 00:28.26 | simply1 | is this enough to make sure im not under attack ? |
| 00:29.29 | phy1729 | simply1: checking the fingerprint would be the proper thing to do |
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| 00:29.42 | phy1729 | man ssh tell you how to find the fingerprint |
| 00:30.42 | simply1 | it cannot auto exchange pubkey :/ |
| 00:31.17 | simply1 | i must again use password, which i don't want to after your suggestion. should i copy a public ket from server to client manually ? |
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| 00:33.47 | phy1729 | dpkg: ssh-copy-id |
| 00:33.48 | dpkg | ssh-copy-id is a utility to copy your <SSH> public key from your local machine to a remote machine, permitting key-authorised ssh connections to the remote machine. ssh-copy-id will copy the key to the right location and make sure the <ssh permissions> are right. You may want to edit your ~/.ssh/config to tell ssh to use this key. See also <debug sshd>. |
| 00:33.50 | phy1729 | simply1: ^ |
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| 01:19.06 | eolabmub | Should I format a USB stick as NTFS, FAT32, or exFAT for the purpose of writing a debian install ISO to it? |
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| 01:21.28 | eolabmub | I am on Windows 7 if it matters. |
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| 01:23.48 | abrotman | eolabmub: none |
| 01:24.37 | eolabmub | How do I do that? |
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| 01:26.34 | abrotman | !tell eolabmub about usb install |
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| 01:28.19 | eolabmub | dpkg tells me that debian can be installed from a USB stick on x86 systems. Does that mean I can't install it on an x64 system? |
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| 01:30.42 | abrotman | eolabmub: no |
| 01:31.04 | abrotman | !tell eolabmub about ig |
| 01:31.50 | eolabmub | Thank you for helping me. |
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| 01:32.31 | abrotman | eolabmub: also see win32-diskimager |
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| 01:32.43 | eolabmub | yes, dpkg told me, I'm using it now |
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| 01:37.30 | DammitJim | yessss! Success with LIRC! |
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| 01:41.53 | Devastator | do you think xfce will run ok on a Core2Duo E4300 1.8GHz, 2GB DDR2? |
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| 01:44.18 | mentor | What does "E: Prior errors apply to <deb>" from apt actually mean? |
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| 01:49.57 | fortress_ | hello, after upgrading my wheezy yesterday, my audio sounds really scratchy and "tinny", or kind of metallic |
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| 01:50.19 | fortress_ | i had wheezy already, all i did was upgrade the packages on the system to the latest version with: aptitude upgrade |
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| 01:53.28 | atannus | Does anyone know if Wheezy has aditional configuration for php other than php.ini and what's in conf.d? I'm looking at some odd things here and can't tell where they're getting set. |
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| 01:53.56 | mentor | fortress_: Maybe the audio is in a different mode. Are you using Pulseaudio? |
| 01:54.09 | fortress_ | mentor: i'm not sure, how can i check? |
| 01:54.40 | mentor | atannus: conf.d directories usually contain conf snippets in different files that are concatenated together, or similar |
| 01:54.53 | atannus | mentor, yeah, I'm aware. |
| 01:55.14 | mentor | reparses atannus' question |
| 01:55.24 | mentor | fortress_: Are you using gnome? |
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| 01:55.37 | atannus | They're not the culprit though. Namely max_execution_time is set to 30 in my php.ini but phpinfo() reports Local as 0 and Master as 30... I don't know where "Local" is comming from. |
| 01:55.40 | fortress_ | mentor: okay yes i'm using pulseaudio. that's what it says in alsamixer |
| 01:55.45 | fortress_ | mentor: i'm using xfce4 |
| 01:56.15 | mentor | Hmmm |
| 01:56.23 | atannus | notices ambiguity in his grammar... ;) |
| 01:57.09 | mentor | fortress_: I seem to remember last time I looked at xfce that the pulseaudio configuration wasn't very good |
| 01:57.19 | abrotman | atannus: there is more than one php.ini possibly |
| 01:57.22 | fortress_ | mentor: everything was working fine until i upgraded |
| 01:57.25 | atannus | Nothing is set in .htaccess and as far as I can tell, neither in apache.conf or the sites-available configs. |
| 01:57.26 | mentor | fortress_: Try having a look with pavucontrol |
| 01:57.33 | fortress_ | mentor, okay i will |
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| 01:59.55 | fortress_ | mentor: i dunno, everything looks normal in pavucontrol |
| 02:00.01 | brontosaurusrex | whats the expected EOL for wheezy? |
| 02:01.19 | zykotick9 | brontosaurusrex: 1 year after the next stable is released (whenever that is ready) |
| 02:01.47 | brontosaurusrex | so when jessie gets stable + year? |
| 02:02.07 | brontosaurusrex | so that could be 2 years or 10 years, right? |
| 02:02.44 | dvs | brontosaurusrex: yup, that sounds right. |
| 02:02.58 | brontosaurusrex | thanks |
| 02:03.01 | dvs | brontosaurusrex: realistically, bet on around 3 years. |
| 02:03.11 | brontosaurusrex | right |
| 02:04.39 | fortress_ | can someone help me fix my audio? i upgraded my wheezy and it broke the audio. there is sound but it is very distorted |
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| 02:09.03 | theslow1 | fortress_, do you have a second set of speakers to test with? just to make sure it is software that is the issue, and not hardware? |
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| 02:09.49 | fortress_ | theslow1: confirmed that it is not the hardware. tested headphones etc |
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| 02:12.52 | theslow1 | fortress_, ok, if I read correctly, this occurred after a normal update right? or did you dist-upgrade? (from squeeze to wheezy?) |
| 02:13.08 | fortress_ | theslow1: normal upgrade |
| 02:13.19 | fortress_ | i used: sudo aptitude upgrade |
| 02:13.48 | fortress_ | and it was already wheezy |
| 02:15.00 | theslow1 | ok thought so, just wanted to make sure. |
| 02:16.12 | theslow1 | When I have odd problems, just to make sure my own configurations haven't cause the problem, I either create a new user, and test |
| 02:16.30 | theslow1 | or move my home directory, and create a new home dir |
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| 02:17.08 | fortress_ | okay, i'll try that theslow1 |
| 02:17.10 | theslow1 | A new user is simper and safer. |
| 02:17.15 | fortress_ | brb |
| 02:17.19 | theslow1 | kk |
| 02:17.31 | theslow1 | fortress_, I'll be here all night |
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| 02:21.54 | fortress_ | theslow1: guess what, randomly resolved itself after logging in and out (even though i already restarted the system multiple times). ha! thanks for your help! :) |
| 02:22.12 | theslow1 | fortress_, haha good to hear |
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| 02:33.24 | atannus | ./etc/php5/cli/php.ini also sets max_execution_time to 30, but I read Local=0 ans Master=0 for that. wtf? |
| 02:34.50 | atannus | All other settings I fiddled with in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini responded fine, except max_execution_time. This was not so in Squeeze. Something's up... |
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| 02:36.32 | LordBrain | I would be extremely grateful to someone who can help me get sound working here |
| 02:36.39 | LordBrain | on wheezy |
| 02:37.07 | atannus | LordBrain, what' up? |
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| 02:37.30 | LordBrain | there's no sound in vlc,totem, or mplayer |
| 02:37.37 | LordBrain | generally in gnome |
| 02:37.41 | LordBrain | there's no sound |
| 02:37.50 | LordBrain | actually i'm using mate |
| 02:37.55 | atannus | what's up in sound settings? |
| 02:38.00 | LordBrain | but i dont think there is sound in gnome either |
| 02:38.07 | LordBrain | well |
| 02:38.34 | LordBrain | it's a desktop and it has 2 sound cards because the video card has sound on it |
| 02:38.40 | catsup | LordBrain: adduser [youruser] pulse-access |
| 02:38.48 | catsup | LordBrain: ? |
| 02:38.54 | catsup | or did you do it already |
| 02:38.54 | LordBrain | i'll try it catsup , thanks |
| 02:39.16 | LordBrain | i'm in audio but not pulse-access |
| 02:39.22 | catsup | you need to log in/out for it to take effect |
| 02:39.25 | catsup | yeah, that doesn't work anymore |
| 02:39.36 | catsup | pulse steals the device, audio is for direct access to the device |
| 02:39.54 | LordBrain | ok |
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| 02:40.02 | LordBrain | i'm going to log off and try it |
| 02:40.04 | LordBrain | brb |
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| 02:42.30 | LordBrain | catsup, no effect |
| 02:43.38 | LordBrain | sure it is called 'pulse-access? |
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| 02:44.24 | LordBrain | i see a pulse group, maybe i'll try that? |
| 02:44.27 | LordBrain | brb |
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| 02:46.29 | catsup | no |
| 02:46.31 | catsup | gah |
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| 02:46.50 | LordBrain | i'm in pulse and pulse-access |
| 02:46.51 | catsup | pulse is not the right group |
| 02:46.59 | catsup | do a fuser -v /dev/snd/* |
| 02:47.13 | catsup | you should see pulseaudio in there |
| 02:47.28 | LordBrain | i see it thrice |
| 02:47.39 | catsup | ok, what user is on the pulse process? |
| 02:47.49 | LordBrain | they're all me |
| 02:47.58 | catsup | oh :/ |
| 02:48.31 | catsup | what happens if you type arecord |
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| 02:48.41 | LordBrain | i hvae no mic attached |
| 02:48.44 | catsup | doesn't matter |
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| 02:48.57 | catsup | does it print the wav header and hang, or print a bunch of nulls? |
| 02:49.06 | atannus | Got it! mother@#$#@$ |
| 02:49.29 | LordBrain | it fills the terminal with some question mark character on a hexagon background |
| 02:49.45 | catsup | ok, so, you can read from the mic |
| 02:49.50 | catsup | uhh |
| 02:49.58 | catsup | check your volume settings ;) |
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| 02:53.15 | LordBrain | catsup, it's probably going to the wrong audio interface |
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| 02:53.58 | LordBrain | in otherwords, some where i dont have a jack plugged in |
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| 02:54.23 | LordBrain | how do i tell gnome which interface to use? |
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| 02:54.50 | atannus | good night everyone... |
| 02:55.56 | LordBrain | trying something, brb |
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| 02:59.15 | LordBrain | mpg321 works, but not totem or any of the gui apps |
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| 03:03.59 | LordBrain | catsup, still here? |
| 03:04.26 | catsup | ya |
| 03:04.49 | LordBrain | i think it might be using the wrong card |
| 03:04.54 | catsup | right |
| 03:05.01 | LordBrain | you know how to configure that? |
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| 03:06.06 | catsup | you can set PULSE_SINK env variable, or set default-sink= in ~/.pulse/client.conf |
| 03:06.31 | LordBrain | if i tell vlc to use 5.1 surround sound i get sound |
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| 03:07.22 | LordBrain | there is no file there |
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| 03:07.32 | catsup | right, well, it wouldn't exist unless you created it |
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| 03:08.14 | LordBrain | there is a bunch of files, just not that one |
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| 03:09.29 | LordBrain | do i just give it a number? |
| 03:09.37 | LordBrain | default-sink=0 ? |
| 03:09.40 | LordBrain | or 1 |
| 03:09.51 | LordBrain | to specify the device? |
| 03:11.42 | LordBrain | i saw a webpage about .asoundrc |
| 03:11.44 | LordBrain | is that old? |
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| 03:43.11 | excalibr | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/81696/building-deb-how-to-put-arch-independent-files-into-separated-deb-package |
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| 03:52.33 | win2012 | hi. I want to install debian and run ISPConfig 3 (free webhosting package). Which version of debian is recommended? I hear a few people have some issues with 'debian squeeze'. Or is it recommended I just run Ubuntu/CentOS. I am security weary so prefer something a little more secure such as debian. |
| 03:54.51 | reavengrey | *wary |
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| 03:57.46 | Coburn | > ISPConfig |
| 03:57.50 | Coburn | shakes his head |
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| 04:03.04 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. I was going to install tonight, however, the DVD-rom I burned had an error on it. I have to wait until I get to a store which sells DVD-roms to try again. I used the .iso I downloaded from the front page of the website. |
| 04:04.49 | win2012 | Coburn what else do you recommend other then plesk, direct admin and cpanel? and dont say webmin |
| 04:05.16 | Coburn | ....froxlor? |
| 04:06.14 | win2012 | windows/debian/freebsd? |
| 04:06.19 | iceroot | :) synaptic is offering "notify me of a new ubuntu version" :) |
| 04:08.17 | micols | win2012: debian stable is pretty secure |
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| 04:08.51 | win2012 | as long as debian stable will work with floxor |
| 04:09.00 | micols | debian wheezy |
| 04:09.02 | micols | is latest stable |
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| 04:09.53 | micols | well, check the packages dependencies, packages.debian.org iirc |
| 04:10.10 | micols | see if dependencies are fulfilled in debian stable, or if the pkg only works in unstable(sid) or testing |
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| 04:10.28 | micols | if it is in stable repos , obviously it works in stable :P |
| 04:10.44 | micols | else you have to mess with dependencies most likelly |
| 04:11.05 | micols | sometimes compiling yourself is the easiest |
| 04:12.29 | P_B | compiling yourself is never easy. :P |
| 04:13.12 | micols | not easy for programs who depend on a lot of libs that are newer than what you got in stable, but for programs that don't it is |
| 04:13.21 | micols | only way to find out is to try :) |
| 04:13.45 | micols | else you have to compile the libs and install them first |
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| 04:17.12 | Lady_Aleena | Is there a Debian .zip file where I can download it, unzip it, copy it to a DVD-rom, then install it? The .iso on the front page of the Debian site is broken. |
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| 04:19.37 | theslow1 | Lady_Aleena, what is broken about it? |
| 04:19.56 | theslow1 | Lady_Aleena, were you the person with the 'prefix not set' problem? |
| 04:20.00 | Lady_Aleena | EDD: Error bb00 reading sector 51219 happened. |
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| 04:21.16 | micols | Lady_Aleena: try a debian base install netinstall iso (cd, maybe 100-200MB) |
| 04:21.33 | micols | debian netinstall , you burn to cd/dvd, and then it installs over the net after booting |
| 04:21.41 | Lady_Aleena | I used my last DVD-rom today burning Debian to it. |
| 04:21.45 | theslow1 | Lady_Aleena, my machines no longer have optical drives, as I find it faster and easier to boot from USB. If you have a spare USB key around, write and boot from it. |
| 04:22.03 | micols | Lady_Aleena: you can boot off usb too, net install usb |
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| 04:22.14 | micols | although a little harder, not for beginners |
| 04:22.22 | Lady_Aleena | theslow1, USB drives are too expensive to have "spares" just lying around. |
| 04:22.28 | silv3r_m00n | hi there, i installed mate desktop on debian, but on login page box, i dont see anything called MATE, there is gnome gnome classic and gnome/openbox |
| 04:22.57 | theslow1 | Lady_Aleena, eh i picked up a pack at wallmart for $10 |
| 04:23.24 | theslow1 | they were only 512 mb, but that was fine for my purpose |
| 04:23.39 | micols | I got 3 spares, got them for free, else they're like $10-20 , depending on where you buy them + disk ($20-30 used) |
| 04:23.58 | micols | anyone should have a usbkeychain anyway, most people have that |
| 04:24.13 | micols | 4GB is like $8 today |
| 04:24.15 | micols | :) |
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| 04:24.28 | iceroot | how to execute a script as root? http://paste.debian.net/14267/ i get permission denied |
| 04:24.56 | jpinx | I am struggling to de-bug an issue with iceweasel. It gives "Server not found" for some sites, but not all, and chromium does find the sites that iceweasel does not. I have purged iceweasel, moved the $USER .mozilla folder and re-installed iceweasel from wheezy backports, but the problem persists. Anyone able to help ? |
| 04:24.57 | Lady_Aleena | micols, I don't go anywhere where I would need my computer files with me. I don't even have a "smart" phone, just a cell phone from which I make phone calls. I don't even text message. |
| 04:25.05 | micols | iceroot: try sudo su, then ./runasroot.sh |
| 04:25.32 | theslow1 | sudo chmod a+x runasroot.sh |
| 04:25.37 | theslow1 | then try again |
| 04:25.41 | iceroot | theslow1: it is +x already |
| 04:25.42 | micols | it should be possible to run it as root, it already has +x for all it seems |
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| 04:26.14 | iceroot | theslow1: but what is a? |
| 04:26.14 | micols | just try sudo su first to get to ##root :), then try running it, if that doesn't work do chmod a+x ./runasroot.sh |
| 04:26.28 | theslow1 | iceroot, seems like you are right, "a" is everyone. |
| 04:27.09 | iceroot | micols: same error |
| 04:27.18 | theslow1 | iceroot, sudo su |
| 04:27.24 | theslow1 | then give your password |
| 04:27.45 | iceroot | theslow1: micols sudo -i; cd /media/cdrom; ./runasroot.sh |
| 04:28.03 | micols | sudo su, not sudo -i ? |
| 04:28.18 | theslow1 | micols, same difference |
| 04:28.31 | theslow1 | su -c "sh ./runasroot.sh" |
| 04:28.33 | iceroot | micols: sudo su is always the wrong way, because it will set the env wrong |
| 04:28.35 | theslow1 | works also |
| 04:28.45 | iceroot | micols: sudo su = calling a root-shell as root |
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| 04:30.38 | micols | iceroot: might be, must admit I'm not very familiar with sudo as I run debian :) |
| 04:30.45 | micols | thought sudo always reseted env |
| 04:30.50 | iceroot | micols: myself is running debian too |
| 04:31.16 | iceroot | micols: i just did not enabled the root-login, so everything is done with sudo |
| 04:31.25 | micols | only use sudo for certain programs on my server, pretty useful there |
| 04:31.36 | micols | yeah, that sounds like a good idea, I disabled root login on my ssh server too :) |
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| 04:32.35 | theslow1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.50 | iceroot | theslow1: of course i can become root, with sudo -i |
| 04:33.05 | iceroot | theslow1: the solution was "sudo sh scriptname" and not "sudo ./scriptname" |
| 04:33.21 | iceroot | dont know why sudo ./script is not working |
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| 04:38.46 | theslow1 | man sh gives entry for dash |
| 04:39.41 | theslow1 | sudo dash ./scriptname would likely also have worked :D |
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| 05:48.14 | iceroot | just for the record, the issue was "cd mounted with noexec" |
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| 05:52.32 | rmad | i had installed jdk 1.7 on wheezy a month back. but i forgot to set the path neither do i remember where i had it installed. how do i find it? |
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| 06:00.09 | peterrooney | rmad: /var/log/dpkg.log and friends. |
| 06:02.18 | peterrooney | Knowing either the approximate day or the approximate package name (and a little grep fu) should direct your next question, namely dpkg -L <package> |
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| 06:03.47 | rmad | peterrooney: i've never used friends command. |
| 06:03.49 | peterrooney | judd: ,versions openjdk-7-jdk |
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| 06:04.35 | jpinx | rmad: as peterrooney says - dpkg -l | grep jdk will show you what's there and look for th e ones with ii at the beginning of the line - those are the ones actually installed |
| 06:04.43 | peterrooney | ,v openjdk-7-jdk |
| 06:04.44 | judd | Package: openjdk-7-jdk on i386 -- wheezy: 7u3-2.1.7-1; jessie: 7u21-2.3.9-5; sid: 7u25-2.3.10-1 |
| 06:05.08 | ghoti | So ... I'm trying to pipe the output of `tail -f` through things. If I pipe through just one thing, everything works as expected. But once I add a second pipe, it seems as if output is being buffered. |
| 06:05.17 | ghoti | For example, `tail -f foo.log | grep -v zamf` works, but `tail -f foo.log | grep -v zamf | grep services` does not. |
| 06:05.51 | ghoti | Is there a way to force this output to show up as it occurs, rather than when some buffer fills up? |
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| 06:08.28 | Dongyancai | Hi, is there any new NFS setup guide? the current one http://wiki.debian.org/NFSServerSetup is outdated, as portmap is replaced by rpcbind |
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| 06:15.54 | jpinx | ghoti: grep -F maybe ? |
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| 06:17.33 | ghoti | jpinx: er, okay, for the particular example I provided, fixed strings will work. But the problem seems to be that `grep -v zamf` doesn't know it's on a tty when there's another pipe after it, so its output gets buffered. |
| 06:17.43 | ghoti | Is it possible to "flush" that buffer, line by line? |
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| 06:27.00 | ghoti | figured it out. I needed the --line-buffered option for the grep whose output was piped. |
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| 06:34.19 | Ori | Hello, installing Wheezy in Virtualbox I'm getting "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detected an i686 CPU" |
| 06:35.07 | void__ | Ori download 32bit edition instead of amd64 edition of debian |
| 06:35.10 | Ori | Running windos 7 64bit |
| 06:35.25 | Ori | void__ ok |
| 06:35.42 | Dongyancai | Are you sure you have enabled VT-x or similar things? |
| 06:35.52 | void__ | well though it should be no problem running amd64 edition in win7 64bit |
| 06:36.23 | Ori | not sure, let me search for VT-x in my settings |
| 06:36.47 | Ori | it is |
| 06:38.09 | Ori | downloading 32bit version |
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| 06:42.13 | Ori | It's installing. Weird but I'm happy |
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| 07:05.49 | fortin | hello folks. Could someone suggest me an alternative to gnome terminal? I'd like something like iterm2 |
| 07:07.07 | Pegasus_RPG | fortin: I use konsole but I don't know how much it depends on other KDE stuff |
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| 07:07.55 | fortin | ok I'll try it out, not concerned about disk space/installations. PS back to a Debian desktop after a while... |
| 07:08.08 | Pegasus_RPG | As for me, I'm having a strange problem. I'm using SSH with X forwarding to connect to a remote server, then su-ing to root to run an X application. I did xhost + on my local system and on the remote side as the regular user but root still can't run X apps due to the 'X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.' message. What have I missed? |
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| 07:08.21 | fortin | still feel a little rusty, I need a few weeks to get back and feel confortable |
| 07:08.27 | phy1729 | fortin: I like xterm |
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| 07:10.20 | jpinx | fortin: LXTerminal here , no gnomes ;) |
| 07:10.53 | fortin | thinking about getting rid of gnome actually |
| 07:11.24 | fortin | had no time to tweak yet and don't know what's out there as a good desktop manager nowadays |
| 07:11.32 | jpinx | fortin: depends on what your want/need/use - I have a laptop with lxde and it's great ;) |
| 07:11.43 | fortin | but gnome is stealing way too much monitor real estate |
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| 07:12.03 | b-tag | fortin: tried xfce4? |
| 07:12.08 | fortin | jpinx, it's my workstation in a new working place, started Monday |
| 07:12.23 | fortin | b-tag, last time was 5 years ago I think :) |
| 07:12.32 | phy1729 | fortin: if you like tiling i3 is nice |
| 07:12.36 | jpinx | fortin: try a few vm's with different desktops to see what you like |
| 07:12.57 | fortin | yep, I'll go for xfce4 and i3 than, thanks for the hint guys |
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| 07:13.16 | void__ | i3 rocks :) |
| 07:14.11 | b-tag | fortin: i find xfce4 very low footprint, blazing fast and can be extremely elegant, if you tweak it a bit |
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| 07:15.33 | marcusk | Not to mention that there's a lot of great bare window managers as well. |
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| 07:20.25 | fortin | marcusk, I'm sure there are, just have not time here to spend tweak them as I like, so going for gnome so far, but I'm already annoyed. I'll play with those this weekend maybe. What's your favorite? |
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| 07:32.26 | Ori | Guys what "software selection" do you recommend?. I primarily plan on using php,mysql,apache web browsing. |
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| 07:37.10 | b-tag | Ori: depends on what you are planning to do... |
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| 07:38.46 | Ori | php,mysql,apache web browsing. I settled on Mail, SSH , std system utilities |
| 07:39.37 | marcusk | fortin: I usually use fvwm2; it's kind of useless in it's default configuration but once you have it the way you want it you can keep it that way for years. |
| 07:40.46 | b-tag | Ori: are you referring to the debian install checklist |
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| 07:48.18 | Ori | yes |
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| 08:04.34 | b-tag | Ori: my install avenue of choice is "Desktop Environment" and then install anything else manually |
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| 08:12.21 | iceroot | what is the prefered way of using libreoffice 4 in debian stable and to get security updates? as it seems there is nothing like "ppa" in ubuntu. |
| 08:12.34 | iceroot | and in wheezy-backports i cant find libreoffice4 |
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| 08:13.38 | Walex | iceroot: the choice you made when you installed Debian was that you wanted stable versions for security updates. |
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| 08:14.42 | iceroot | Walex: the choice i made was that i want a stable system without mir and upstart and with free software |
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| 08:15.28 | Ketsa | Hi all, is it possible to get steam on debian 7 ? |
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| 08:16.14 | iceroot | Walex: and of course i respect and like the way debian is working but there are some programs (browser, office with support for newer files) where you want a newer version instead of ultra stable |
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| 08:20.19 | iceroot | Walex: and are more useful answer would be sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-0 |
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| 08:20.36 | s1ck | HI! I ran a portscan on one of my machines and it shows "8081 - backice-icecap" as open. Do I have to worry? |
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| 08:24.52 | iceroot | Walex: or this http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-libreoffice-4-0-3-on-debian-7-wheezy-via-backports-ppa/ because i was using backports wrong, they are not enabled by default when using apt-get |
| 08:25.01 | digdilem | s1ck, are you running anything that uses port 8081? a proxy or similar? |
| 08:25.29 | digdilem | s1ck, tor, squid or a bnc are common users of that |
| 08:26.06 | s1ck | digdilem, varnish, in fact - but it doesnt show up when I run netstat |
| 08:26.35 | digdilem | s1ck, that's what it is then |
| 08:26.48 | digdilem | portscans sometimes guess at what's using a port without knowing |
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| 08:27.06 | digdilem | if you have varnish on that port running well, it's fine |
| 08:27.21 | s1ck | digdilem, i don't, that's the problem |
| 08:27.30 | s1ck | even if i stop varnish the port shows still open |
| 08:27.45 | digdilem | may be a stale session? |
| 08:29.03 | s1ck | could be. it shows up in netstat as "tproxy" |
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| 08:36.45 | Walex | iceroot: I understand your aim, but each distribution has a different policy. The Debian policy is version stability and security updates. What you want instead is "version stability except where I would like newer versions" and security updates. I am just pointing out that there is a difference. |
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| 08:37.58 | iceroot | Walex: and wheezy-backports fits my needs perfectly in that case, so everything is fine :) |
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| 08:39.31 | iceroot | it was just a wrong usage from myself |
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| 08:45.34 | orzo | is there a way to tell apt to only install versions of packages available from a particular source, but to prefer actually obtaining those versions from another? I'm trying a debian derivative and I'm pretty sure they are staying compatible enough that packages of the same naem and version are unaltered, but their mirrors are slow and i'd rather use faster debian mirrors |
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| 08:49.40 | mumpitzel | orzo: there is pinning. but we support debian ONLY. not derivatives at all. ask ##linux |
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| 09:02.00 | rethus | i have wrong time 2 hours to few with UTC. Howcan I fix this in debian 7 |
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| 09:14.38 | bluesm | Does anybody works with kate remotely ? |
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| 09:26.09 | ChrisH | More a adacemical question. clio3 is old-old-stable NFS,NIS and Co server. Since 192.168.10.7 was updated to wheezy (+ exerimental kernel 3.10-rc5-486 due to dualhaed setup not working with stable kernel and I was not able to install backports kernel). Now I get these messages: Jul 4 11:00:45 clio3 kernel: [3871365.080544] nfs4_cb: server 192.168.10.7 not responding, timed out ; There is no NFS V4 beeing used at all. |
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| 09:27.06 | joltcan | ChrisH: have you set it to to force nfsv3? |
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| 09:29.11 | joltcan | ChrisH: like nfsvers=n or vers=n. That's pretty much how far my NFS knowledge goes |
| 09:29.49 | rethus | format_c: strange. if i type date in cmd, i see right time, if i restart postfix, he is still 2 hours ago with his time |
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| 09:30.48 | ChrisH | joltcan: I forced the client in hos automounter map using "* -proto=tcp,vers=3 clio:/home/&". Keep in mind clio3 is the NFS Server. NFS Server is complaining about his NFS client |
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| 09:38.56 | haridas | Hi, I installed Debian 7.1 on our server Dell poweredge 2950 with kde. But after that the keyboard layout has problem "#" key is mapped to pound symbol and "@" key is mapped to double quote. How do I fix this. Please let me know. |
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| 09:43.39 | waterlae | Has anyone else experienced a bug with eye of gnome image preview software. It seems to regularly freeze gdm on my system? |
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| 09:56.43 | musca | haridas: which language keyboard layout do you want? |
| 09:57.05 | ChrisH | haridas: Where is your @ key on the keyboard? On Q or 2 ? most probaly a loadkeys de|en|us or what ever layout you have should fix it |
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| 10:13.04 | Sepultura | can I deactivate the middle Mouse click globally on Debian? |
| 10:13.09 | touki | Hi, whats the best way to allow a user to delete files generated by mysql ? |
| 10:13.22 | touki | I added the user to mysql group but it doesn't seem to work |
| 10:13.24 | haridas | musca, CrisH: It was 'gb', now I got the fix. I changed that to 'us' in /etc/default/keyboard. Now it's working. |
| 10:13.26 | haridas | Thank you. |
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| 10:15.06 | musca | haridas: this is default, isn't it? |
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| 10:16.11 | haridas | musca: While installing I put it as UK layout, that was the issue. |
| 10:16.17 | Walex | ls |
| 10:16.38 | Mikicacarica | FREE BRAZZERS ACCOUNTS EVERYDAY HERE ---> http://gratisbrazzers.blogspot.com |
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| 10:16.42 | musca | haridas: ok, i understand. |
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| 10:17.56 | haridas | musca: I was facing another problem -- I upgraded the linux-kernel to 3.9 while doing that it removes some firmwares. I think because of that the login operation is not happening ? anybody have similar experience ? |
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| 10:18.41 | yctn | hello, does debian 6 still get software updates? |
| 10:19.04 | yctn | or when i expect software updates i should move to debian7? |
| 10:19.07 | petn-randall | touki: What files are we talking about? |
| 10:19.41 | musca | !tell yctn about oldstable |
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| 10:20.28 | petn-randall | yctn: The oldstable is supported for "stable release + 1 year". So you still got until May 2013 to upgrade. |
| 10:21.24 | yctn | petn-randall okay but what does supported means are there only coming security updates? or can i also expect newer versions of software like mysql or phpmyadmin |
| 10:21.48 | petn-randall | yctn: You will *never* get newer version of software in a stable release. |
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| 10:22.30 | petn-randall | yctn: Well, not never, but hardly ever. It's a seldom exception of the rule if that happens. |
| 10:22.33 | musca | iceweasel 10 was just replaced by iceweasel 17 |
| 10:22.41 | yctn | can you explain that a little bit to be is new software only releashed with a new stable? |
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| 10:23.52 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell yctn abdout stable |
| 10:24.10 | petn-randall | yctn: Debian's policy with stable is "not changing". If severe bugs show up in a package, only then will an update be issued. And only if a backport of the fixes aren't possible an upstream version will be shipped. |
| 10:24.11 | ChrisH | yctn: short: debause this is how stable is defined. |
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| 10:25.25 | yctn | ah i understand |
| 10:25.31 | musca | you can pick a few packages from backports repo. |
| 10:25.43 | petn-randall | musca: Was it? The package overview still shows me 10 for wheezy. |
| 10:25.52 | yctn | and how often debian releashed come out |
| 10:26.06 | yctn | is that once a year or how often debian releashed |
| 10:26.10 | petn-randall | yctn: Roughly every two years. |
| 10:26.18 | musca | petn-randall: it's in wheezy-security |
| 10:26.41 | petn-randall | ,v iceweasel |
| 10:26.43 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 10.0.12esr-1; jessie: 10.0.12esr-1+nmu1; wheezy-security: 17.0.7esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 17.0.7esr-1; experimental: 22.0-1 |
| 10:27.04 | petn-randall | interesting, packages.debian.org doesn't show that yet :) |
| 10:27.04 | yctn | petn-randall can i somewhere find a ETA of a new releash? |
| 10:27.28 | petn-randall | yctn: "when it's ready". Last release is only 2 months ago, so ... |
| 10:27.47 | musca | !wwjr |
| 10:27.47 | dpkg | I have no idea when Debian 8.0 "Jessie" will release -- when it's ready, I guess. For user contributed guesses on when it will release, ask me about <jessie pool 1>. See also <release goals>, <wir>. |
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| 10:28.07 | yctn | yeah yeah i know i was just asking for my own information is not that i am waiting for a new releash for something i was just trying to understand the proces |
| 10:28.38 | petn-randall | yctn: "release". A releash is probably something else ... :> |
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| 10:30.51 | yctn | ok thanks you for all the info |
| 10:31.29 | touki | petn-randall: sorry talking about csv file in /tmp/ |
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| 10:35.27 | petn-randall | touki: Either use setfacl, or just set the permissions right so they can delete the file. |
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| 10:36.56 | touki | petn-randall: ls -l gives: "-rw-rw-rw-" seems i should be able to delete it, no ? |
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| 10:38.42 | colo-work | touki, no. that depends on whether or not you have the "write" permission to the directory that file resides in |
| 10:38.59 | touki | ok |
| 10:39.04 | colo-work | unless that directory also has the sticky bit set; then you'll also have to be the owner of that file |
| 10:39.15 | touki | ok |
| 10:39.32 | touki | so i can edit but neither create or delete without owning permission on the parent folder |
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| 10:41.08 | Sevet | touki: correct... think about it this way - create/delete means editing the list of files in the directory so you need to be able to edit the directory |
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| 10:42.57 | Sevet | touki: you can even delete a file you have no permissions to if you have permissions on the directory (hence the reason for the sticky bit) |
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| 10:50.57 | gallant | anyone have heard about nearlyfreespeech.net? |
| 10:51.45 | babilen | gallant: Please not in here - This is a technical support channel for Debian. |
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| 10:53.07 | ChrisH | touki: in /tmp typically has 1777 and then only the user is allowed to delete his files. |
| 10:53.17 | Walex | t |
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| 10:55.47 | Walex | touki: <Sevet> obviously knows, but is trying to simply things a bit. The fuller story is that in UNIX style systems files have no names, and only directory entries have names. A file gets created when the first directory entry for it is defined, and gets deleted when the last (or the last file descriptor) is removed. A file can be referred to by many directory entries. None of them is the "main" one. |
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| 11:00.21 | simply1 | i have two NIC. How can set eth0 as default to connect to internet ? |
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| 11:04.10 | format_c | simply1, would you mind nopasteing the output or netstat -rn |
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| 11:06.27 | ChrisH | simply1: set the default route to eth0 |
| 11:07.18 | simply1 | format_c: one min, i actually have two wlans. http://paste.org/65846 |
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| 11:08.45 | simply1 | ChrisH: how :) |
| 11:08.47 | format_c | simply1, there is no active eth0 interface |
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| 11:09.01 | simply1 | format_c: no eth, both wlan |
| 11:09.04 | format_c | you first need to bring it up and give it proper IP address information |
| 11:09.37 | simply1 | format_c: im already connected to inet via wlan0, chatting now : ) |
| 11:09.56 | simply1 | but i want it to be through wlan1 |
| 11:09.58 | format_c | OK you mean wlan0 not eth0 |
| 11:10.05 | format_c | ok wlan1 |
| 11:10.13 | format_c | !tell simply1 about nopaste |
| 11:11.05 | simply1 | format_c: already pasted |
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| 11:11.16 | simply1 | http://paste.org/65846 |
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| 11:11.46 | colo-work | dpkgs "bdo NEW" factoid links http://backports.debian.org/dak/new.html which appears dead |
| 11:12.27 | babilen | colo-work: Thanks |
| 11:12.33 | format_c | route add default gw 192.168.1.1 |
| 11:12.41 | format_c | route del default gw 192.168.0.1 |
| 11:12.42 | colo-work | babilen, you're welcome :) |
| 11:12.55 | format_c | assuming 192.168.1.1 is also a router with internet connectivity |
| 11:13.37 | simply1 | format_c: after this both wlans will be still connected ? |
| 11:13.43 | babilen | colo-work: I changed the URL to the correct one. |
| 11:14.25 | colo-work | babilen, thanks a lot! (both for providing the service in general, and the very quick time to implement the fix ;)) |
| 11:14.29 | format_c | yes but everything that's outside of 192.168.0.0/23 will be routed to 192.168.1.1 via wlan1 |
| 11:15.19 | simply1 | applying the command 1min |
| 11:15.21 | format_c | simply1, how are the interfaces configured? |
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| 11:15.39 | format_c | manually or via DHCP? |
| 11:15.45 | simply1 | dhcp |
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| 11:16.25 | simply1 | this didnt work : route add default gw 192.168.1.1 |
| 11:16.36 | simply1 | SIOCADDRT: No such process |
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| 11:17.21 | simply1 | hmm, its disconnecting and connecting |
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| 11:17.32 | simply1 | the other wlan that i wanna use for internet |
| 11:17.35 | simply1 | brb |
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| 11:18.06 | simply1 | ok it worked |
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| 11:21.00 | format_c | you want this permanently? |
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| 11:21.12 | format_c | This setting is currently volatile |
| 11:21.53 | HelenaKitty_ | Hello, I booted up a copy of Debian 7 in rescue mode to try and access files on my internal hard drive however I am only getting /dev/sdb, I should be getting 3 partitions. /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb2 and /dev/sdb5 however I am not. What is the problem? Rescue mode also stated that my hard drives file systems will be mounted to /target however there is no /target. |
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| 11:23.20 | format_c | Mhh I think 192.168.1.1 is not a internet router :-/ |
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| 11:24.53 | Sevet | format_c: 'hmm, its disconnecting and connecting' <-- or just a very poor signal |
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| 11:26.08 | format_c | Sevet, I assume you're simply1? |
| 11:27.18 | HelenaKitty_ | Hello, I booted up a copy of Debian 7 in rescue mode to try and access files on my internal hard drive however I am only getting /dev/sdb, I should be getting 3 partitions. /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb2 and /dev/sdb5 however I am not. What is the problem? Rescue mode also stated that my hard drives file systems will be mounted to /target however there is no /target. |
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| 11:28.01 | HelenaKitty_ | A wild tux penguin appears! |
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| 11:30.12 | petn-randall | HelenaKitty_: What does 'fdisk -l /dev/sda' say? |
| 11:30.47 | Walex | HelenaKitty_: also check 'cat /proc/partitions' and 'blkid' |
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| 11:32.02 | HelenaKitty_ | oh no I just formatted my pendrive and put Fedora on it cause I didn't think I was going to get a response and I didn't know how much time I have here, I am trying to fix my netbook in the wrong environment and it's a matter of time before I am asked to leave. :/ |
| 11:32.07 | format_c | Sevet, hello |
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| 11:32.10 | format_c | there? |
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| 11:32.28 | petn-randall | HelenaKitty_: o_^ |
| 11:32.36 | babilen | HelenaKitty_: What are you talking about? |
| 11:32.47 | Sevet | format_c: there he is |
| 11:33.01 | petn-randall | HelenaKitty_: You should know that this channel isn't known for its split-second response times .... |
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| 11:33.20 | format_c | is 192.168.1.1 your router? |
| 11:33.31 | abrotman | petn-randall: ignore her, she's trolling again |
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| 11:42.21 | humle | HelenaKitty lol :D made my day |
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| 11:45.29 | HelenaKitty_ | petn-randall: /bin/sh: fdisk: not found |
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| 11:46.30 | HelenaKitty_ | Walex: sda, sda1, sda2, sda5, sdb |
| 11:46.36 | HelenaKitty_ | sda is the pendrive tho. |
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| 11:47.17 | abrotman | HelenaKitty_: didn't you already say this isn't Debian? |
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| 11:47.31 | HelenaKitty_ | According to blkid, sdb is the pendrive. o.o, how come sdb is the pendrive? |
| 11:47.37 | HelenaKitty_ | abrotman: I put debian back on my stick. |
| 11:47.47 | abrotman | in 15 minutes? |
| 11:48.10 | HelenaKitty_ | ... |
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| 11:48.28 | HelenaKitty_ | abrotman: Yes, it takes 5 minutes. |
| 11:48.35 | abrotman | for normal people |
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| 11:50.08 | HelenaKitty_ | mount /dev/sdaX /media/X where X is a number says "No such file or directory" however I created 1, 2 and 5 directories in /media and according to ls they're actually there! |
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| 11:50.46 | petn-randall | HelenaKitty_: both /dev/sda* and /media/* are there? |
| 11:50.59 | HelenaKitty_ | petn-randall: Yes. |
| 11:51.09 | HelenaKitty_ | I am trying to mount /dev/sda1 to /media/1 |
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| 11:51.53 | babilen | HelenaKitty_: Please show us the *exact* commands and the entire output of http://paste.debian.net |
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| 11:52.42 | touki | Re |
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| 11:53.10 | touki | I don't get the best way to make a file in temp deleted by a group of person. Should I change the chown ? |
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| 11:55.22 | apm1 | what is this madness ? |
| 11:55.52 | Nik05 | what apm1 ? |
| 11:55.56 | apm1 | gedit and mousepad can edit my sources.list if i access them from thunar but nano fails to dit it |
| 11:55.59 | HelenaKitty_ | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/14340/ |
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| 11:56.30 | apm1 | nano shows up empty with nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:56.38 | apm1 | and yes i ran that as root |
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| 11:56.49 | HelenaKitty_ | It's hard to manually type all this into a pastebin. |
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| 11:57.05 | Nik05 | apm1 and cat /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 11:57.27 | Nik05 | HelenaKitty_ you can just copy... |
| 11:57.48 | HelenaKitty_ | Nik05: No I can't. |
| 11:57.50 | apm1 | Nik05, works |
| 11:57.58 | apm1 | so its a bug in nano ? |
| 11:58.15 | baf | hello, came across wierd thing. Debian wheezy. After brct addif br0 eth0, network traffic dies. Need to go to console and ifdown -a; ifup -a helps. Why is that? |
| 11:58.20 | Nik05 | are you sure you typed it correctly apm1 ? |
| 11:58.30 | apm1 | yes i did |
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| 11:58.54 | apm1 | all editors except nano work |
| 11:59.04 | apm1 | vi emacs gedit geany ee |
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| 11:59.13 | apm1 | everything i have installed |
| 11:59.20 | apm1 | *vim |
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| 11:59.29 | apm1 | but not nano |
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| 12:01.23 | apm1 | wtf this time it worked with nano |
| 12:01.45 | apm1 | and i didn't retype the command i just scrolled up with the arrow keys |
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| 12:02.31 | ksuhku | :) |
| 12:02.32 | touki | how to allow a group to delete any files in /tmp/ ? |
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| 12:02.48 | apm1 | Nik05, i am convinced my machine is possessed |
| 12:02.57 | apm1 | so many ghost bugs |
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| 12:03.50 | apm1 | it screws you for a minute then they disappear never reproducible |
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| 12:05.55 | rozie | apm1: I'd start with memtest. then I'd check filesystem and reinstall nano |
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| 12:06.39 | mumpitzel | apm1: then check your hardware. after memtest, check your harddisk via SMART |
| 12:06.43 | apm1 | rozie, memtest is a lost cause and i have fsck enabled on each boot |
| 12:06.50 | apm1 | mumpitzel, done that |
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| 12:07.26 | apm1 | memtest is not needed the ram in this machine has never been touched by a human hand since it was unpacked from its box |
| 12:08.05 | HelenaKitty_ | apm1: Means nothing, RAM can still mess up. :/ |
| 12:08.16 | apm1 | how ? |
| 12:08.17 | rozie | apm1: enjoy your hardware, then |
| 12:08.30 | apm1 | it never gets messed up by itself HelenaKitty |
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| 12:08.41 | apm1 | you have to manhandle it for it to go faulty |
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| 12:08.53 | el-linedash | lol |
| 12:08.57 | el-linedash | no, no it doesn't |
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| 12:09.35 | el-linedash | ram can indeed develop faults with no manhandling |
| 12:09.55 | apm1 | rozie, well my hardware is in top notch condition , its wheezy that has ghost bugs , i dual boot this machine with sid and wheezy , sid never has a hiccup |
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| 12:10.23 | HelenaKitty_ | apm1: Dude you're talking to a qualified technician |
| 12:10.30 | HelenaKitty_ | no you don't have to manhandle it |
| 12:10.37 | apm1 | el-linedash, enlighten me how , does it mold ? |
| 12:10.43 | el-linedash | <-- linux admin for several hundred servers and have seen it many a time |
| 12:10.46 | HelenaKitty_ | it can go faulty just by sitting unused for years even |
| 12:11.10 | el-linedash | poor voltage regulation, degredation over time, etc |
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| 12:11.30 | apm1 | el-linedash, not on a netbook i don't think so |
| 12:11.43 | apm1 | and its a 3 month old netbook |
| 12:11.44 | jelly | flaky power is probably the most common cause I've seen |
| 12:12.00 | abrotman | apm1: that means nothing |
| 12:12.01 | HelenaKitty_ | apm1: All computers in general |
| 12:12.04 | apm1 | well i use a surge protector and a UPS |
| 12:12.06 | HelenaKitty_ | get RAM faults |
| 12:12.08 | el-linedash | so consumer hardware built at minimal cost, likely with cheap components including voltage regulation systems |
| 12:12.10 | HelenaKitty_ | get hard drive faults |
| 12:12.15 | HelenaKitty_ | get CPU faults |
| 12:12.20 | el-linedash | apm1, frankly, you have no idea what you're talking about :) |
| 12:12.21 | HelenaKitty_ | it doesn't take manhandling |
| 12:12.38 | apm1 | el-linedash, yes i do , i am just saying its not plausible |
| 12:12.39 | HelenaKitty_ | it doesn't even take being powered on all the time, it can go faulty just by it being in storage. |
| 12:12.45 | abrotman | apm1: go to ##hardware, ask them how many different ways hardware can go bad |
| 12:12.56 | el-linedash | the fact that you think it's not plausible is what tells me you don't know what you're talking about |
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| 12:13.22 | HelenaKitty_ | abrotman: Dampness in the air can kill your RAM, dust can kill your RAM, heat can kill your RAM. |
| 12:13.29 | HelenaKitty_ | woops abrotman sorry mishighlight |
| 12:13.29 | abrotman | HelenaKitty_: i have no idea why you're telling me |
| 12:13.34 | apm1 | i think i should refrain from giving a shit anymore , thanks for being a bag of dicks assholes |
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| 12:13.38 | el-linedash | haha |
| 12:13.55 | HelenaKitty_ | What an idiot |
| 12:13.55 | HelenaKitty_ | :/ |
| 12:14.02 | el-linedash | 'help me' - 'no, you're wrong' |
| 12:14.03 | HelenaKitty_ | abrotman: Again... sorry. |
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| 12:14.12 | abrotman | is thinking we're about done with apm1's antics |
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| 12:16.31 | holtgrew | Hi. I have a wheezy install and I'm trying to compile an application and link it to zlib. I'm using CMake for this. CMake cannot find zlib/libz.a. The library is located in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.a (provided by zlib1g-dev:amd64). On Debian 6.0.7, libz.a is in /usr/lib/libz.a (provided by zlib1g-dev). FindZLIB from CMake appears not to look into the architecture subdirectory and does not find zlib. Am I missing something that should crea |
| 12:16.31 | holtgrew | te a link in /usr/lib or is this a problem with CMake or my CMake setup? |
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| 12:17.05 | abrotman | holtgrew: you can try to install the i386 version ... but it sounds like their make file is a bit busted? |
| 12:17.20 | el-linedash | Is there an option to specify the folder for zlib in the ./configure ? |
| 12:17.42 | el-linedash | oh nm, missed the cmake aspect |
| 12:17.48 | el-linedash | not familiar with |
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| 12:19.05 | holtgrew | So it is normal that there only is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.a and nothing in /usr/lib? |
| 12:19.10 | caf | there's not links in /usr/lib/ as standard, instead the /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ will be in your default librart search path |
| 12:19.32 | holtgrew | caf: Where does the library search path come from? |
| 12:19.45 | holtgrew | Maybe I misconfigured something in my environment variables. |
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| 12:20.01 | caf | it's configured into the toolchain somehow, possibly in the linker script |
| 12:20.28 | LinuxGuy2020 | Is there a way to search or view the package contents of the DVDs to see which ones I need for an offline machine? |
| 12:20.53 | abrotman | !tell LinuxGuy2020 about cd contents |
| 12:21.02 | LinuxGuy2020 | Thanks |
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| 12:22.35 | slooth | Hello. I need a tool that can accomplish the following: Inside X (fluxbox), while a certain key is pressed, execute certain program; once the key is stop being pressed, then do something else. What could help me? Thanks |
| 12:22.38 | caf | holtgrew: it's set up by SEARCH_DIR() directives in the linker script |
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| 12:24.35 | ChrisH | slooth: xevents will/might help. But thats all I can provide as help. |
| 12:25.06 | slooth | chrisaw, thanks I'll check that |
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| 12:30.44 | Toli | Hello, I have strange issues with Wheezy on Atom n270. strange messages like failed command: WRITE DMA, exception Emask etc. any ideas ? |
| 12:32.01 | Toli | something with the hdd controller ? |
| 12:32.08 | Toli | or the hdd |
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| 12:33.46 | Toli | I can dpaste the kernel error message if you want to help ! |
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| 12:34.28 | Toli | http://dpaste.com/1287231/ |
| 12:34.29 | chrisaw | sloth: wrong person. :-) |
| 12:34.41 | chrisaw | *slooth |
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| 12:35.19 | slooth | ? |
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| 12:36.01 | Toli | no one can help me ? |
| 12:36.16 | abrotman | Toli: what is 'uname -r'? |
| 12:36.46 | jelly | Toli: are there more related messages? |
| 12:36.58 | Toli | I will see |
| 12:37.15 | Toli | it happens when I install packages, and sometimes it just freeze |
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| 12:37.27 | holtgrew | nvm, I found the problem, I was using a self-compiled cmake that PATH picked up... |
| 12:37.30 | Toli | 3.2.0-4-686-pae |
| 12:37.44 | abrotman | Toli: also, i might look for a bios update |
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| 12:37.51 | abrotman | holtgrew: that'll cause all sorts of problems :) |
| 12:38.08 | holtgrew | :) |
| 12:38.11 | nivio | do i need to run something after i've edited boot menu.lst ? |
| 12:38.22 | abrotman | nivio: update-grub ? |
| 12:38.23 | ChrisH | Toli: looks like a faulty cable, Disk or controller. Can you at least replace the ATA/IDE cable? |
| 12:38.42 | abrotman | would think atom implies netbook of some sort |
| 12:38.57 | jelly | ChrisH: or overheating issues or something else |
| 12:39.16 | nivio | abrotman, update-grub destroys menu.lst =p |
| 12:39.36 | Toli | ok I will replace the cable |
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| 12:40.05 | abrotman | nivio: of course it does .. you're doing it wrong :) |
| 12:41.11 | Toli | haha, damn there is no cable, the hdd is directlly connected to the main board :) |
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| 12:41.18 | jelly | nivio: debian's packaging of grub 0.9x uses special "comments" in menu.lst to set up default options for the generated menu entries |
| 12:41.28 | Toli | and this is a new PC |
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| 12:41.33 | slooth | If anyone cares, I've solved the problem with evtest + xte |
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| 12:42.13 | Toli | could it be something from the bios ? |
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| 12:45.56 | jelly | that sounds moderately interesting, slooth |
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| 12:46.16 | gallant | please how can I install java for debian |
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| 12:47.28 | ChrisH | gallant: aptitude search java and pick one. If you need Sun Java, use google download java and pick a page wirh java and/or oracle in name. |
| 12:47.55 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell gallant about java install |
| 12:48.05 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell gallant about install java |
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| 12:48.43 | gallant | I need java plugin for browser |
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| 12:49.37 | gallant | please how can I install it? |
| 12:49.46 | gallant | this here http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml |
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| 12:49.51 | gallant | it says its not for debian why |
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| 12:50.01 | abrotman | gallant: apt-cache search java plugin |
| 12:50.09 | ksuhku | ^ |
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| 12:50.50 | gallant | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15543603/installing-java-7-oracle-in-debian-via-apt-get |
| 12:50.52 | gallant | is this ok? |
| 12:51.00 | abrotman | gallant: why are you ignoring what we're saying? |
| 12:51.09 | Toli | What utils are you using to check the hdd health ? |
| 12:51.17 | gallant | ok wait sry |
| 12:51.21 | abrotman | Toli: smart tools generally |
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| 12:51.36 | ChrisH | gallant: http://java.com/en/download/help/linux_x64_install.xml is fine. I use Sun-Java from there. |
| 12:51.45 | gallant | i did search and it found huge list :S |
| 12:51.47 | Toli | abrotman, in terminal ? |
| 12:51.56 | abrotman | Toli: apt-cache search smart tool |
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| 12:53.42 | jelly | Toli: also, http://www.hdsentinel.com/hard_disk_sentinel_linux.php |
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| 12:54.48 | jelly | that binary-only tool is especially useful with ata-usb bridges that smartmontools do not support |
| 12:55.12 | gallant | abrotman, I did that and it retuned huge list |
| 12:55.14 | gallant | what should I do now |
| 12:55.19 | Toli | I dont find anything with smart tools |
| 12:55.40 | gallant | I need to install java browser plugin |
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| 12:56.16 | CalimeroTeknik | why does apt-get autoremove java-common install ntfs-3g and a lot of GTK libs? |
| 12:56.21 | ChrisH | jelly: Thanks |
| 12:56.29 | CalimeroTeknik | I'm feeling trolled by apt |
| 12:56.36 | abrotman | gallant: look for the one that says it's a plugin ? |
| 12:56.43 | Toli | ok smartmontools |
| 12:56.48 | gallant | tehre are a lot plugins |
| 12:56.48 | gallant | :S |
| 12:56.53 | oldornot | Hi all, I'd like to do php admin panel with lighttpd, need to execute cmds as root. From security perspective what would be the safest way to implement it ? One way I could think of is running lighttpd as some user which is added to sudoers. Any thoughts ? Thanks |
| 12:57.16 | abrotman | oldornot: in reality, those tools are generally not safe |
| 12:57.30 | abrotman | CalimeroTeknik: sounds like your sources are messed up |
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| 12:58.20 | oldornot | what would be the safe way to do it ? |
| 12:58.23 | CalimeroTeknik | I don't think they are… this is a chroot to build packages, and I have a few additional repos to avoid compiling everything |
| 12:58.25 | abrotman | use ssh and vi ? |
| 12:58.38 | babilen | gallant: Read the factoid our bot (dpkg) sent you in private some time ago |
| 12:58.38 | Toli | Look at this: 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 057 039 045 Old_age Always In_the_past 43 (0 4 43 43) |
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| 12:58.46 | porto | hellowwww |
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| 12:58.52 | porto | anyone can help :S |
| 12:59.02 | porto | my battery status is in 16% |
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| 12:59.12 | CalimeroTeknik | no one can help you if you don't ask a question |
| 12:59.35 | porto | and i write acpi -V and appears 93% |
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| 12:59.58 | ChrisH | Toli: start with smartctl -H /dev/sdX |
| 13:00.00 | gallant | babilen, thank you guys! |
| 13:00.07 | abrotman | porto: it could be 93% of possible battery |
| 13:00.10 | porto | i think the info in aplet is wrong |
| 13:00.30 | babilen | gallant: Also keep in mind that OpenJDK is the official/reference implementation of JDK 7 (and later) |
| 13:00.49 | porto | hum |
| 13:00.50 | ChrisH | Toli But keep in mind, that SMART is not as smart as it sounds. I saw enough disks still reporting smart: OK and they where almost failed. |
| 13:01.43 | oldornot | ssh is good, but i want to do a web based admin |
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| 13:04.08 | Toli | ChrisH, this is what I did: ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE |
| 13:04.08 | Toli | 190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022 056 039 045 Old_age Always In_the_past 44 (0 4 44 43) |
| 13:05.18 | babilen | Toli: You might want to paste the entire output to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 13:06.17 | Toli | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/14362/ |
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| 13:07.43 | babilen | Toli: What about "smartctl -a /dev/sdX" (with sdX being something like sda and the right block device for you hdd) |
| 13:07.55 | ChrisH | Toli: once more using smartctl -a /dev/sdA incl. the command pleawse |
| 13:08.05 | ChrisH | babilen: you are a faster typer then me :) |
| 13:08.24 | babilen | ChrisH: "apt-get install gtypist ; gtypist" ;) |
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| 13:09.12 | Toli | ChrisH, babilen : http://paste.debian.net/14364/ |
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| 13:13.14 | babilen | Toli: That looks okay, but not good. I have the impression that your harddrive overheated in the past. Note that most attributes (apart from Airflow_Temperature_Cel) never exceeded the threshold, but the sheer fact that some of them are not at their "perfect" level raises some doubts about the disk. |
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| 13:13.51 | bluesm | Is there a tool that allow to bind global shortcut to the bash script ? |
| 13:13.58 | bluesm | (Or just one bash command) ? |
| 13:14.16 | ChrisH | bluesm: not sure what you as searching but try man alias |
| 13:14.18 | Toli | babilen, the PC is fanless, it could been overheated yes ! |
| 13:14.23 | babilen | Toli: I would recommend to run some short/long selftests on the disk. Read smartctl(1) and pay attention to the discussion of the "-t" option. You can see the results of those tests by running it with "-l selftest" |
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| 13:17.54 | bluesm | ChrisH: For example, Sometimes I do want to change screen settings, and I want to be able to do that with shortcut <ctrl><shift>] |
| 13:18.58 | babilen | Toli: What does the short test give you? (i.e. output of "smartctl -t short /dev/sda ; smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda" ? |
| 13:19.23 | babilen | Toli: Well, you have to allow the test to finish so you shouldn't run both commands back to back :) |
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| 13:22.12 | ksuhku | bluesm, using gnome? |
| 13:22.34 | bluesm | ksuhku: kde. |
| 13:22.37 | Toli | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/14367/ |
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| 13:23.09 | ksuhku | bluesm, I believe kde too has key binding possilibity, if not you could use xbindkeys |
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| 13:23.34 | ksuhku | bluesm, in gnome it's hidden somewhere in keyboard settings |
| 13:23.36 | babilen | Toli: Okay, I'd run a long test too. It doesn't look too bad, but my experience in the last couple of years was that a hardware that starts to show problems is not to be trusted. Make sure you have backups ... |
| 13:24.00 | Toli | babilen, I dont get anything with -t short /dev/sda |
| 13:24.34 | babilen | Toli: Huh? You pasted the result! |
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| 13:24.41 | Toli | babilen, its a quite new. The PC las delivered last week :) |
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| 13:25.27 | Toli | babilen, I posted the result of -l selftest |
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| 13:26.28 | anddam | hi, |
| 13:26.59 | babilen | Toli: Okay - If you take a look at the output in detail you see that Command_Timeout, Seek_Error_Rate, Raw_Read_Error_Rate, Hardware_ECC_Recovered and, in particular, Airflow_Temperature_Cel are not at their optimal settings (raw value of 0) -- They haven't exceeded the threshold yet (apart from Airflow_Temperature_Cel in the past), but I wouldn't want to see that in a new disk. |
| 13:27.34 | babilen | Toli: Yeah, -t short/long just initiates the tests while you see the log of those tests by examining the "selftest" log with "-l selftest" |
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| 13:27.59 | babilen | .oO( I had a good articule on how to smartctl and how to interpret its output somewhere in my bookmarks ... ) |
| 13:28.16 | babilen | Toli: http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/6983/print |
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| 13:29.59 | anddam | how do I enable process accounting? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/02/msg00549.html |
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| 13:30.06 | anddam | namely I don't have /var/log/wtmp |
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| 13:30.27 | Toli | Thanks babilen |
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| 13:32.29 | anddam | I mean I don't even know well how the feature I'm looking for is called, I've seen it referenced as "system accounting" and "bsd process accounting" |
| 13:32.44 | anddam | I'd just like to have an history of user logins |
| 13:32.45 | abrotman | judd: info acct |
| 13:32.46 | judd | Package acct (admin, optional) in wheezy/i386: The GNU Accounting utilities for process and login accounting. Version: 6.5.5-1; Size: 105.6k; Installed: 360k; Homepage: http://www.gnu.org/software/acct/ |
| 13:32.52 | anddam | abrotman: thanks |
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| 13:33.04 | anddam | abrotman: so it's just "accounting" |
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| 13:33.14 | anddam | any factoid? I tried wtmp, <process accounting> |
| 13:33.18 | abrotman | if that's what youre looking for |
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| 13:33.34 | anddam | abrotman: eh, I still don't know :-) |
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| 13:34.27 | anddam | but my need is as small as having an history of logins with last command or so |
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| 13:34.50 | adaminsull | how do I find out my version of debian? |
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| 13:35.22 | abrotman | !tell adaminsull about version |
| 13:35.23 | void__ | adaminsull cat /proc/version |
| 13:35.40 | adaminsull | Linux version 2.6.32-348.4.1.el5.028stab107.1 (root@rhel5-build-x64) (gcc version 4.1.2 20080704 (Red Hat 4.1.2-46)) #1 SMP Wed Apr 17 19:37:50 MSD 2013 |
| 13:35.45 | adaminsull | What would that be? |
| 13:35.52 | abrotman | RH VPS server |
| 13:36.02 | abrotman | which is why you should use /etc/debian_version |
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| 13:36.29 | adaminsull | Yes but I mean what version of debian is it? like 4.1.2-46 ot what? |
| 13:36.31 | adaminsull | or* |
| 13:36.41 | abrotman | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 13:36.44 | abrotman | or lsb_release -a |
| 13:36.54 | adaminsull | thanks |
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| 13:38.45 | anddam | I'm torn, ~> sudo port aptitude upgrade |
| 13:38.47 | anddam | sudo: port: command not found |
| 13:39.00 | anddam | and ofc I keep running "aptitude" on my osx system |
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| 13:40.31 | anddam | abrotman: Turning on process accounting, file set to '/var/log/account/pacct'. what feature provides /var/log/wtmp instead? |
| 13:41.03 | abrotman | anddam: eh, what? |
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| 13:41.56 | anddam | abrotman: I was hoping to use 'last' that parses wtmp(5), what Debian service does provide it (if any)? |
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| 13:42.43 | abrotman | what package you mean? |
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| 13:43.54 | trever | hai, what repo should i add to /etc/apt/sources.lst in order to install virtualbox |
| 13:44.27 | abrotman | trever: it's in main already |
| 13:44.31 | caf | login writes to wtmp |
| 13:44.37 | abrotman | it should .. |
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| 13:44.45 | abrotman | anddam: did you break login somehow? |
| 13:44.54 | caf | that's probably done through PAM these days |
| 13:45.33 | nivio | when is the next dist scheduled? |
| 13:45.33 | trever | abrotman: also for testing? |
| 13:45.44 | abrotman | trever: i'd think so |
| 13:45.49 | abrotman | nivio: there is no schedule |
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| 13:46.33 | yctn | when i change something in crontab -e in which file is this stored? |
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| 13:46.55 | abrotman | yctn: /var/spool/cron/ |
| 13:46.58 | anddam | abrotman: no, the system if fine (AFAICT), I wanted to check a history of last user logins so I searched and found about last(1) that parses /var/log/wtmp but on my wheezy there's no /var/log/wtmp, I searched on web and found that discussion on ml but I cannot figure how the package or the feature providing /var/log/wtmp is called |
| 13:47.06 | trever | E: Package 'virtualbox' has no installation candidate :/ |
| 13:47.14 | abrotman | trever: pastebin your sources.list |
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| 13:48.01 | anddam | I'm asking either for a package name or a service name, you suggested acct and I'm now looking into its docs but it's not providing wtmp, it's using its own directory |
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| 13:48.24 | trever | aboman: http://paste.debian.net/14377/ |
| 13:48.26 | anddam | abrotman: is my point more clear now? |
| 13:48.26 | abrotman | anddam: i thought you were asking about the acct package |
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| 13:48.35 | abrotman | trever: looking |
| 13:48.35 | yctn | abrotman if i wanne something something in crontab -e but i wanne do it with bash how this should be done |
| 13:48.39 | trever | thx |
| 13:48.52 | abrotman | trever: you don't need 'testing' and wheezy-backports |
| 13:49.00 | abrotman | trever: you sohuld also point your sources at 'jessie' , not testing |
| 13:49.11 | trever | okay |
| 13:49.14 | abrotman | trever: show us, "aptitude update;aptitude install virtualbox" |
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| 13:49.25 | trever | after changing to jessie |
| 13:49.26 | trever | ? |
| 13:49.35 | abrotman | yes |
| 13:50.02 | void__ | i have an strange behaviour on one box i got right now, its not possible to reboot it it seems like to hang but i can still login and the command reboot broadcasts the message the syystem is going down, but well nothing happens it stays up |
| 13:50.13 | void__ | what can i do to really force the reboot |
| 13:50.18 | void__ | reboot -f does nothing either |
| 13:50.34 | void__ | i have no physical access to the system |
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| 13:50.51 | caf | anddam: wtmp is maintained by login, you just need to create it if it doesn't exist |
| 13:51.23 | anddam | caf: I can create it but it'd be empty, don't I need to tell some service to actually write in it? (e.g. login settings or so) |
| 13:51.51 | caf | no, it should by default |
| 13:51.57 | anddam | the acct Preface is quite humoroush btw |
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| 13:52.52 | caf | none of the programs that write to wtmp create if it's not already there, so if the file doesn't exist that will disable the logging |
| 13:53.09 | anddam | good to know, thanks |
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| 13:53.34 | anddam | is there a correct owner:group setting for files in /var/log? |
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| 13:54.14 | anddam | I see root:root root:adm and root:myuser |
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| 13:57.58 | caf | anddam: it's up to you for the log files (root:adm is common) but for wtmp and utmp you should use root:utmp |
| 13:58.24 | paxcoder | hello. I've got a user who can't play anything, even though it's in the same groups as this other one who can. I even put him in the other one's personal group, but still nothing. |
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| 14:00.25 | trever | abrotman: no vbox yet http://paste.debian.net/14378/ |
| 14:01.31 | abrotman | judd: versions virtualbox |
| 14:01.33 | judd | Package: virtualbox on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 4.0.10-dfsg-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u1; jessie/contrib: 4.2.10-dfsg-1; sid/contrib: 4.2.10-dfsg-1 |
| 14:01.50 | abrotman | trever: ah, it's in contrib, append that after "main" for your main source |
| 14:02.00 | abrotman | which means oyu'll probably want non-free also |
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| 14:03.02 | paxcoder | *play as in audio |
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| 14:03.31 | michaelis | Hi. Why cannot I find the ar program in my Debian distro? |
| 14:04.02 | mumpitzel | michaelis: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=bin%2Far&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
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| 14:04.34 | mumpitzel | if you lack a binary, you go to packages.debian.org and in this case enter "bin/ar" to search for and this is what you get |
| 14:04.46 | mumpitzel | so my guess you need to install binutils |
| 14:04.51 | nkuttler | !tell michaelis about search |
| 14:05.46 | michaelis | Thank you. That solved the problem. |
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| 14:06.17 | zgreg | on a multiarch setup, for non-native libraries I have no symlinks from libfoo.so to the full library name; this in turn means compiling for that arch fails. |
| 14:06.40 | michaelis | nkuttler, I did a search but the result was many many entries. But then again I search for ar. |
| 14:06.47 | zgreg | so far I always added the symlinks manually, but that is very ugly and probably not how it is supposed to work |
| 14:06.49 | michaelis | searched |
| 14:07.01 | zgreg | can anyone with a clue of multiarch help? |
| 14:07.40 | nkuttler | michaelis: yeah, use bin/ar |
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| 14:08.22 | zgreg | e.g. on an x86_64 system if i try to compile something for x86 that uses expat, it will not find libexpat, because they symlink libexpat.so -> libexpat.so.1 is missing |
| 14:09.07 | anddam | thanks again, bye |
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| 14:09.44 | maroloccio | how do i install a package (e.g. `cricket' or `mrtg') and, after having used it for a while, temporarily disable it? *not* "uninstall it", just disable it for a certain duration of time (e.g. update-rc.d mypackage disable, but *also*.. all cron jobs should be OFF, all "side-effects" should be OFF, ...) |
| 14:10.22 | trever | abrotman: thank you, virtualbox finally works when using jessie with contrib |
| 14:10.37 | petn-randall | maroloccio: The "off"-switch would be to uninstall it. Config files are preserved, by the way. |
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| 14:11.08 | abrotman | maroloccio: some packages have a ENABLED flag in /etc/default/pkgname |
| 14:11.34 | nkuttler | maroloccio: also update-rc.d only handles init scripts |
| 14:11.35 | petn-randall | maroloccio: If you don't want to uninstall it, some packages have a main switch in /etc/default/<packagename>, where you can set some var to 0 and that'll effectively disable init scripts and cron jobs. |
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| 14:12.10 | maroloccio | thanks for the answers guys |
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| 14:12.33 | namoamitabuddha | Is there any list for official sources for Debian? |
| 14:12.43 | babilen | maroloccio: What are you trying to do exactly? Why is removing a package problematic? (it sounds as if it would achieve what you want) |
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| 14:13.00 | babilen | namoamitabuddha: You mean mirrors? |
| 14:13.00 | abrotman | !tell namoamitabuddha about wheezy sources.list |
| 14:13.05 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 14:13.11 | abrotman | namoamitabuddha: debian.org/mirrors/list |
| 14:13.16 | babilen | Well, that is good information too :) |
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| 14:13.57 | babilen | namoamitabuddha: Or do you mean actual source code? Or is "sources" perhaps a typo and you are looking for the the wizards of Debian? |
| 14:14.00 | maroloccio | i think it is an overall "philosophy of package management by debian" question :) apt-get does everything for me: puts bins in the right place, sets up config files (cron, init scripts, etc.), opens up netfilter ports for me, really "the whole thing".. wondering what does "the whole thing" when the objective is to temporarily disable the package, because i need it off for a short while, but i am sure i'll put |
| 14:14.02 | maroloccio | it back online later. this "/etc/default/pkgname" seems to be "it"... is it? what's the fundamental underlying philosophy in debian here? :) |
| 14:14.19 | namoamitabuddha | mirrors, not sources. |
| 14:14.51 | babilen | maroloccio: The underlying philosphy of Debian is: You want a service to be functional and usable when you install it. You wouldn't install it if you don't want to use it. |
| 14:15.06 | namoamitabuddha | I got an error just like this. |
| 14:15.12 | namoamitabuddha | E: Release file for http://ftp.cn.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/Release is expired (invalid since 11h 36min 32s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. |
| 14:15.28 | babilen | namoamitabuddha: You might like a metamirror such as http.debian.net (cf. http://http.debian.net) but take a look at the mirror list abrotman mentioned earlier |
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| 14:16.00 | namoamitabuddha | babilen: That's quite slow. |
| 14:16.10 | maroloccio | babilen: i understand. and, if i am managing a server and that package has to go offline for a bit.. what's the "debian way" to do this? what's the exact command? |
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| 14:16.13 | babilen | namoamitabuddha: Sounds like whatever mirror you get in the ftp.cn.debian.org rotation is not up to date. |
| 14:16.38 | babilen | maroloccio: There is none that I can think of, it really depends on the service in question. Removing the package is, I guess, the general way. |
| 14:17.09 | mumpitzel | maroloccio: apt doesn't this. it's dpkg and debconf which do all this. mostly via scripts. and there is no way to automatically undo all this except uninstalls. and not even that works for everything (stuff in user ~, additional cronjobs, etc) |
| 14:17.29 | mumpitzel | *doesn't do this |
| 14:17.35 | paxcoder | I went through the <alsa checklist>, but this one user just won't play audio. Help, please. |
| 14:17.45 | babilen | namoamitabuddha: You mean that whatever mirror is automatically selected by http.debian.net is slower than the one you get in the ftp.cn.debian.org rotation? You *can* pick a mirror manually. I personally prefer http.debian.net as it gets things right for me, but then I am not in China. |
| 14:18.07 | j03h | sudo: unable to stat /etc/sudoers: No existe el fichero o el directorio |
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| 14:18.57 | nkuttler | !tell j03h about localized errors |
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| 14:19.27 | nkuttler | j03h: it sounds like you deleted the file? |
| 14:19.36 | nkuttler | !tell j03h about confmiss |
| 14:19.39 | maroloccio | mumpitzel: i realise it's not `apt' per se doing this. but it's a design pattern: provide a config façade which will take care of triggering/cascading. it's a front-end system, which INSTALLS/REMOVES (as a single-verb action, implying everythin will "just work" from there.. and I was trying to discover if it had an accompanying *disable* - i can provide examples of when stuff just needs to be "off" for a |
| 14:19.40 | maroloccio | while) |
| 14:22.11 | mumpitzel | you can check /var/lib/dpkg/info/<package>.* which are these scripts that set it up. so you can see what happens when installing and uninstalling but there is no automatic way to undo it .prerm and .postrm are interesting for the "disabling" I guess |
| 14:22.14 | babilen | maroloccio: As I said: Debian assumes that you want to use software that is installed and typically installs "sensible" standard configuration. |
| 14:22.37 | namoamitabuddha | babilen: It seems that the most upstream debian mirror server of China sucks. |
| 14:23.01 | paxcoder | :-( |
| 14:23.11 | j03h | thanks nkuttler |
| 14:23.57 | babilen | namoamitabuddha: That might be the case -- I had no problems with the mirrors in the ftp.tw. rotation while I was over there and, in particular, the mirror at NTU was excellent. No idea if those are feasible for you in Chine. ftp.hk. might be another option. I am sure that the developer/maintainer of http.debian.net would love to hear about your problems. |
| 14:24.04 | babilen | dpkg: tell namoamitabuddha -about which http.debian.net |
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| 14:25.13 | babilen | namoamitabuddha: It would be much appreciated if you could, once you found a good mirror, send an email to Raphael Geissert (see bottom of http://http.debian.net ) in which you inform him that http.debian.net picks mirrorA but that mirrorB would be much better or so. |
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| 14:26.09 | namoamitabuddha | babilen: It sends me to taiwan servers. |
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| 14:26.24 | namoamitabuddha | babilen: I mean, http.debian.net |
| 14:26.31 | babilen | namoamitabuddha: debian.csie.ntu.edu.tw is the one I am referring to -- which mirror exactly? |
| 14:27.56 | babilen | namoamitabuddha: yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if connections from China to Taiwan have to traverse quite a number of "ensuring the harmony" tools - What about ftp.hk or ftp.sg ? |
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| 14:29.08 | namoamitabuddha | babilen: The mirror changes if I test many times. |
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| 14:29.23 | danfa | hi |
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| 14:29.44 | Pryon | ello ello |
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| 14:30.05 | danfa | in general, is there a way to download all the dependence packets of a particular packet in order to install it offline? |
| 14:30.10 | nivio | is there a server-install image? |
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| 14:30.53 | nkuttler | danfa: apt-offline? |
| 14:30.56 | abrotman | apt-zip |
| 14:30.57 | babilen | namoamitabuddha: Well, all I am saying is: http.debian.net performs well (for me) in Europe so far and is quite a new tool. The developer is interested in ensuring that it picks the "best" mirror regardless of the user's location and works perfectly. Feedback is definitely welcome even if it is just "I am in COUNTRY. http.debian.net picks $MIRROR1 while my personal tests showed that $MIRROR2 would be much better. |
| 14:31.20 | Rebus | shalom |
| 14:31.25 | danfa | nkuttler: thanks for the info, I have to do this on my opensuse distro as well |
| 14:31.43 | babilen | namoamitabuddha: I was quite happy with ftp.tw and the NTU mirror in particular during the time I was in Taiwan -- I would recommend to try the mirrors in HK and Singapore ... |
| 14:31.44 | danfa | do u know if there is a general method? |
| 14:32.02 | babilen | danfa: ##linux might now -- this channel is for Debian support :) |
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| 14:32.30 | danfa | babilen: thx anyway |
| 14:32.31 | babilen | (or the opensuse channel for opensuse -- I don't think that there is a general method that is applicable to every distribution though) |
| 14:32.32 | danfa | ::) |
| 14:32.40 | danfa | babilen: got it :) |
| 14:32.47 | Pryon | danfa: the downloadonly plugin for yum is probably your best bet tehre |
| 14:32.57 | danfa | Pryon: uhm |
| 14:33.10 | Pryon | opensuse doesn't use yum? |
| 14:33.15 | abrotman | or ask #opensuse |
| 14:33.24 | babilen | danfa: If you happen to find a general solution feel free to let us know. apt-zip, apt-offline, apt-walkabout, ... are relevant tools on Debian with apt-zip probably being the most popular. |
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| 14:33.49 | danfa | Pryon: so I have to install yum before |
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| 14:34.00 | danfa | babilen: sure, ;) |
| 14:34.35 | babilen | danfa: The general solution for all distributions is probably: Download every single package and copy it into the directory where there package manager searches for them (e.g. /var/cache/apt/archives/ on Debian) |
| 14:34.50 | babilen | *their (I feel dirty now) |
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| 14:35.07 | danfa | babilen: uhm yep, that will work for sure.. a bit messy but it will work ;) |
| 14:35.09 | danfa | thanks |
| 14:35.23 | no_gravity | Hello! After doing "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" how do I know if i have to reboot the machine for all changes to take effect? |
| 14:35.48 | abrotman | no_gravity: only for kernels |
| 14:35.54 | babilen | no_gravity: New kernel? → Reboot -- Run "checkrestart" (from debian-goodies) and act accordindly |
| 14:36.01 | babilen | dindly! |
| 14:36.06 | abrotman | no_gravity: recommended for libc6 I'd personally say, but not requird |
| 14:36.33 | no_gravity | babilen: "apt-get install checkrestart"? |
| 14:36.48 | babilen | yeah, libc6 would be one of my "better reboot" upgrades along with the kernel. checkrestart should hunt down all services/processes that you should restart .. |
| 14:36.50 | no_gravity | abrotman: i have no idea if a kernel was updated. it spit out a ton of iles. |
| 14:37.18 | babilen | no_gravity: No, it is in the debian-goodies package IIRC (take a look at all tools in there and those in the devscripts package too) |
| 14:37.34 | paxcoder | Help: I went through the <alsa checklist>, but a specific user just won't play audio. |
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| 14:37.52 | babilen | paxcoder: Only that user? |
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| 14:38.19 | no_gravity | babilen: what are debian-goodies? |
| 14:38.22 | paxcoder | babilen, yes. This one works. But you should know they were in the same groups, and still I could hear nothing. |
| 14:38.41 | abrotman | no_gravity: /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 14:38.48 | paxcoder | babilen, and by same, I mean I even put the mute one in the personal group of this one for which audio works. |
| 14:38.57 | no_gravity | abrotman: what is that? |
| 14:39.00 | abrotman | it's a log |
| 14:39.12 | no_gravity | abrotman: maybe i should simply restart... |
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| 14:39.44 | babilen | no_gravity: debian-goodies is a package that ships a number of, well, goodies for Debian. The "checkrestart" script is one of them |
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| 14:40.02 | no_gravity | babilen: you mean i shall do "apt-get install debian-goodies"? |
| 14:40.21 | noxy | hey there, i'm trying to install dh_modaliases but i'm getting an error as like "E: Unable to locate package dh-modaliases" |
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| 14:40.29 | yossarianuk | hi - does anyone know where to get the latest wine from for debian - i.e 1.6? |
| 14:40.33 | babilen | no_gravity: You can reprogram the tools if you find that easier, but that is more or less what I was implying, yes. |
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| 14:41.11 | no_gravity | babilen: ok, have it now |
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| 14:41.39 | no_gravity | ups, checkrestart spits out a long list of stuff. i would have expected something like "you have to restart" or "you do not have to restart". |
| 14:42.01 | Akuw | i am using a wimax internet provider, how can i configure a server and see it from everywhere ? |
| 14:42.05 | no_gravity | "Found 25 processes using old versions of upgraded files" - sounds lik i should restart. |
| 14:42.13 | noxy | how can i install dh_modaliases package ? |
| 14:42.22 | no_gravity | so "reboot" is the right way to go now? |
| 14:42.41 | ksk | no_gravity: probably |
| 14:42.48 | no_gravity | ksk: ok |
| 14:42.55 | babilen | yossarianuk: There is wine-unstable in sid, but that ships wine 1.5 IIRC (and you shouldn't necessarily install that on wheezy) -- AFAIK the latest stable release of wine is 1.4.? and the 1.4 branch is what you'll find as "wine" in the Debian archive. |
| 14:43.02 | no_gravity | The system is going down for reboot NOW! |
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| 14:43.07 | babilen | judd: v wine-unstable |
| 14:43.08 | judd | Package: wine-unstable on i386 -- sid: 1.5.30-2 |
| 14:43.20 | babilen | judd: v wine |
| 14:43.21 | judd | Package: wine on i386 -- squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; jessie: 1.4.1-4; sid: 1.4.1-4; wheezy: 1.4.1-4 |
| 14:43.24 | babilen | yossarianuk: ^^^ |
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| 14:45.13 | yossarianuk | babilen: thank you for the info |
| 14:45.35 | yossarianuk | so to get 1.6 I should compile my own? |
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| 14:46.24 | babilen | yossarianuk: You can't get it from us - I neither care about nor use wine and would recommend to ask in #winehq -- There used to be packages from carbon-dev, but the packages in sid are more up-to-date. |
| 14:47.11 | babilen | yossarianuk: Please be careful and don't wreck your system by installing random third-party packages. Are you sure that you cannot use 1.5.30-2 ? Which version of Debian do you use? |
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| 14:48.38 | yossarianuk | babilen: its wheezy... |
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| 14:50.07 | yossarianuk | I don;t really like wine - but if the staff here want to use debian then have to use kayako desktop (windows only) - and that only really works with later versions (the SID version could do...) most ppl using ubuntu at present |
| 14:50.39 | yossarianuk | thanks: the side version would be fine though |
| 14:50.42 | yossarianuk | *sid* |
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| 14:52.26 | babilen | dpkg: tell yossarianuk -about ssb |
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| 14:52.59 | ws2k3 | hello i have 2 hard disks md1 = / md2 = /home is it possible to copy everything from / to md2 and when thats done mount / to md2 ? |
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| 14:53.24 | babilen | yossarianuk: You should be able to backport that package from sid to wheezy by following the procedure in the <ssb> factoid the bot told you about. you might want to place that in your <own repository> so that you can easily install it on multiple boxes. |
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| 14:53.52 | mumpitzel | ws2k3: it is |
| 14:54.04 | paxcoder | audio... |
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| 14:55.09 | ws2k3 | mumpitzel can you tell a little bit more about or/what do i need to watch doing this can u just copy it with cp? because i already have alot ofg data on md2 |
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| 14:55.21 | ws2k3 | the intension is to do it with keep of data |
| 14:56.02 | yossarianuk | babile: thank you for your very helpful info |
| 14:56.40 | yossarianuk | Kubuntu has been fine - howeverl latest version = lots of odd shutdown/startup random hangs, etc |
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| 14:56.57 | yossarianuk | Where as debian wheezy just seems to work. |
| 14:57.05 | babilen | yossarianuk: You are welcome -- The <...> are references to factoids you can ask our bot, dpkg, about. e.g. "/msg dpkg own repository" |
| 14:57.42 | yossarianuk | wheezy + cinammon repo = nice stable desktop |
| 14:58.11 | krypto | how can i make a script in init.d to be executed during bootup,rc.local is not an option running deb7. |
| 14:58.21 | tdn | I have just installed wheezy and set up RAID1 and LVM with this layout: http://syrah.adora.dk/tmp/corvina-disk-layout.png but when the installer tries to install GRUB on MBR on the first hard drive, it fails. This might be because I use RAID1. How do I install GRUB so that I can boot my system? |
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| 14:59.29 | petn-randall | yossarianuk: wheezy and raring are hardly comparable. wheezy was frozen a year ago, and thus has more tested, older software. Raring has only had 6 months of working on it, and maybe 6 weeks of freeze. |
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| 15:00.25 | petn-randall | wheezy + cinammon repo = not supported here anymore :) |
| 15:00.36 | ws2k3 | if i wanne copy my OS to another partition can i use cp for that or should i use dd ? |
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| 15:00.50 | babilen | yossarianuk: Note that Debian does ship cinnamon in jessie (testing) -- but that doesn't help you much. |
| 15:01.23 | babilen | I mean you could probably backport that (and libmuffin-dev) too ... |
| 15:01.34 | petn-randall | ws2k3: To achieve what? Backup? Or do you want to actually boot from it? |
| 15:01.46 | ws2k3 | boot from it |
| 15:02.12 | ws2k3 | well my old disk has grub and the old disk is not gonna be removed so i can leave grub on the old disk and put linux on the new disk? |
| 15:02.18 | ChrisH | tdn: from my understanding you need to do that manually. At least this was what I needed to do each time. |
| 15:02.38 | petn-randall | ws2k3: Then cp -a (I'd use rsync, in case it gets interrupted you can then restart the process), then you have to chroot into the system and fix the boot loader, so it's not quite trivial. |
| 15:02.41 | tdn | ChrisH, how to do it then? I am on the installer right now? I go to a terminal and write what? |
| 15:03.20 | yossarianuk | I use KDE anyway ... Others in the office use cinnamon - i'm happy as long as its not windows. |
| 15:03.29 | ws2k3 | petn do i need to chroon into the new system? cant i just change the OS value in the grub config? |
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| 15:04.57 | petn-randall | ws2k3: Yes, you do. |
| 15:05.26 | ws2k3 | to do what exacly? |
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| 15:06.10 | mumpitzel | the only thing you need to do is to (re)install grub |
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| 15:06.26 | mumpitzel | tho you write about md which implies RAID |
| 15:06.28 | yunosound | ? |
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| 15:07.36 | yunosound | i can log in to another account and play sound, but can't use this one :-( |
| 15:08.56 | ChrisH | tdn: grub-update or update-grub after the installation finished |
| 15:09.06 | tdn | ChrisH, ok. |
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| 15:09.41 | ws2k3 | hmm maby there is another sollution before i go do this the issue is my / is only 20 gb and my /home is 1.8 tb i use a software packages that stores its data in usr/local/program but my 20 gb is full so i need a sollution that i can have usr/local/program to have more storage i already tryed a symbolic link that didnt work out well |
| 15:09.44 | tdn | ChrisH, command not found. |
| 15:09.47 | tdn | ChrisH, tried both |
| 15:09.54 | mtn | yunosound: did it work for this user before? |
| 15:09.56 | yunosound | ws2k3, maybe* |
| 15:09.56 | tdn | ChrisH, there is a grub-probe? |
| 15:10.00 | yunosound | mtn, yes |
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| 15:10.12 | ChrisH | tdn: grub-install |
| 15:10.30 | mtn | yunosound: then you will have to find out what was changed in that account. sound settings, etc. |
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| 15:11.33 | yunosound | mtn, how do you suppose I do that? |
| 15:11.37 | tdn | ChrisH, command not found. |
| 15:11.44 | tdn | when I run it in the alt+F2 console. |
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| 15:11.55 | tdn | ChrisH, should I chroot into something first? If so, how? |
| 15:12.08 | mtn | yunosound: I would start with alsamixer and/or the sound app for that users interface. |
| 15:12.22 | yunosound | mtn, yeah, i see nothing muted here |
| 15:12.24 | yunosound | (alsamixer) |
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| 15:12.43 | michal___ | yo |
| 15:12.45 | yunosound | just beep, mic |
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| 15:14.06 | chokesmaster | hello, is there anyone good at preseed config? |
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| 15:15.18 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell chokesmaster -about ask |
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| 15:15.49 | michal___ | wc |
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| 15:17.16 | yunosound | makes no sense... |
| 15:17.26 | chokesmaster | I'm trying to create a preseed file that create 2 raid1 partitions and then create LVM partition on it my config file look like this: http://pastebin.com/6WWhaKrq |
| 15:19.30 | ChrisH | tdn: Once more _AFTER_ the installation finished and the system is booted from one mirror part |
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| 15:20.08 | tdn | ChrisH, oh, but the installer will not complete without installing grub? Will I be able to boot the system at all without installing GRUB? |
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| 15:21.01 | ChrisH | tdn: The installer will install onto one Disk which is part of the mirror for /boot. This is enough to boot the system. |
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| 15:25.46 | tdn | ChrisH, ok, just rebooted. Appearently, it does not boot at all now. It just hangs, blank black screen. |
| 15:25.52 | gihad | Hey guys, I just ported a redis cluster from Debian 6 to 7, in Debian 7 the redis cluster is causing the system to reach the file descriptor limit, I can't raise it. Can anyone share some insight on that? |
| 15:26.09 | tdn | ChrisH, did you look at my disk layout. Do I miss anything there for it to be able to boot? |
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| 15:27.48 | gihad | I could raise the file descriptor limit in debian 6 with no problems, but 7 doesn't seem to be taking my config |
| 15:27.50 | tdn | ChrisH, this is the error in alt+F4 console while the installer tried to install: imgur.com/JW2bxtz |
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| 15:28.23 | tdn | ChrisH, it says that the GTP partition label has no BIOS boot partition?? |
| 15:28.41 | pcarrier | hey |
| 15:28.58 | chokesmaster | I'm trying to create a preseed file that create 2 raid1 partitions and then create LVM partition on it my config file look like this: http://pastebin.com/6WWhaKrq |
| 15:28.59 | yunosound | argh |
| 15:29.01 | pcarrier | any emacs user doing debian packaging in the mood to submit that patch https://github.com/pcarrier/debian-changelog-mode/commit/7af9e9 ? |
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| 15:30.07 | pcarrier | improves portability (no dependency to coreutils) |
| 15:30.16 | tdn | ChrisH, found this about ubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/239252/setup-with-bios-but-gpt-partition-table-due-to-3-tb-disk it might be the same problem in debian... So I need to create a third partition? |
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| 15:30.29 | nivio | how do i get color highlighting in vim? (just installed wheezy) |
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| 15:30.45 | tdn | nivio, :syntax on |
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| 15:31.24 | nivio | thx |
| 15:31.52 | yunosound | gettin real tired of this alsa crap |
| 15:31.59 | pcarrier | nivio: to have it system-wide, you can echo syn on | sudo tee -a /etc/vimrc |
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| 15:32.37 | mtn | yunosound: if it works for one user, but not another, it is settings not alsa |
| 15:32.39 | nivio | super yes |
| 15:32.56 | phy1729 | nivio: in the future there's #vim |
| 15:33.01 | yunosound | mtn, where are these setings you speak of? |
| 15:33.07 | nivio | how do i disable those annoying pc-speaker beeps? |
| 15:33.11 | ChrisH | tdn: you need a BIOS Boot partiion with GPT. You did not mention the use of GPT so far. |
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| 15:33.26 | mtn | yunosound: already told you. |
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| 15:33.48 | mtn | yunosound: if the user did something even more creative, I would have no idea where to look. |
| 15:33.50 | yunosound | mtn, and i told you alsamixer has nothing muted |
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| 15:33.58 | yunosound | mtn, they didn't |
| 15:34.15 | mtn | yunosound: then how did the settings change and only for one user? |
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| 15:34.30 | phy1729 | nivio: no beep in vim or system wide? |
| 15:34.36 | yunosound | mtn, your guess is as good (or better?) than mine |
| 15:34.45 | mtn | yunosound: well, good luck |
| 15:34.51 | yunosound | :-/ |
| 15:34.55 | tdn | ChrisH, I thought that was the only option with modern disks... |
| 15:35.02 | yunosound | hate alsa problems. |
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| 15:35.11 | tdn | ChrisH, and I did not know they were to be handled specially. |
| 15:35.11 | nivio | phy1729, system wide please |
| 15:35.19 | vedranm | hi, anyone beside me using KDE and Iceweasel? |
| 15:35.37 | vedranm | lack of Firefox's integration with system mimetypes is a bit annoying |
| 15:35.55 | vedranm | especially considering that Chromium works perfectly |
| 15:35.58 | chokesmaster | no oe an help me with my preseed config? |
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| 15:36.20 | phy1729 | !tell nivio about bell |
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| 15:36.22 | ChrisH | tdn: http://paste.debian.net/14393/ I needed to setup two times, too. |
| 15:36.33 | vedranm | is this a political issue or a technical one? |
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| 15:36.47 | vedranm | if it's a technical issue, how would one go at fixing it? |
| 15:37.05 | nivio | thanks phy |
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| 15:37.18 | yunosound | alsa should really work without being touched. |
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| 15:38.48 | Akuw | i just configured my wimax fordward but can see my pc from internet |
| 15:39.04 | chokesmaster | I'm trying to create a preseed file that create 2 raid1 partitions and then create LVM partition on it my config file look like this: http://pastebin.com/6WWhaKrq |
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| 15:39.07 | Akuw | i have PC->Router->WifiRouter->Internet |
| 15:39.14 | chokesmaster | anyone can help me with that? |
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| 15:40.57 | tdn | ChrisH, I just started over on a new installation. I created a 10 MB partition on both disks and set type to bios_boot. Will the installer then be able install grub on that? |
| 15:42.04 | tdn | ChrisH, what is vgstripped? Do you have your root file system as raid10? |
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| 15:42.15 | tdn | ChrisH, raid10 with only two physical disks? |
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| 15:48.10 | chokesmaster | I'm trying to create a preseed file that create 2 raid1 partitions and then create LVM partition on it... My config file look like this: http://pastebin.com/6WWhaKrq |
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| 15:49.59 | gihad | Hey guys, I just ported a redis cluster from Debian 6 to 7, in Debian 7 the redis cluster is causing the system to reach the file descriptor limit, I can't raise it. Can anyone share some insight on that? |
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| 15:54.22 | rypervenche | What's the command to get a list of packages that you can then take to another system and install? I know dpkg has something on this. (the bot) |
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| 15:57.02 | CissWit | rypervenche: you can try "dpkg --get-selections > blah.txt" and "dpkg --set-selections < blah.txt; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade" |
| 15:57.11 | ChrisH | tdn: vgstripped has a raid0 below. This is for scratch data and stuff which should be done faster like movie recoding or testing. No backup no redundancy, just speed :) |
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| 15:58.34 | cifer | excuse me, can i install debian 7 ia64 using usb disk? |
| 15:59.01 | abrotman | i doubt you want ia64 |
| 15:59.05 | j03h | how i can reste root password if i lost this? |
| 15:59.17 | j03h | modifing the GRUB to enter direct to some shel? |
| 15:59.18 | abrotman | dpkg: tell j03h about ifrp |
| 15:59.19 | j03h | l?¡ |
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| 15:59.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell cifer about ia64 |
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| 16:00.02 | babilen | dpkg: tell cifer -about install debian |
| 16:00.04 | abrotman | cifer: you likely want amd64 or i386 |
| 16:00.06 | babilen | dpkg: tell cifer -about usb install |
| 16:00.09 | rypervenche | CissWit: Thanks you. |
| 16:00.19 | j03h | abrotman yes but i have GRUB 1.98... |
| 16:00.23 | abrotman | j03h: so what? |
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| 16:06.55 | chokesmaster | I'm trying to create a preseed file that create 2 raid1 partitions and then create LVM partition on it... My config file look like this: http://pastebin.com/6WWhaKrq |
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| 16:07.36 | AciD` | I can't remember the name of the cmdline to rebuild a deb package from the file installed on your computer |
| 16:07.39 | AciD` | somebody ? |
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| 16:08.05 | abrotman | dpkg-repack? |
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| 16:08.37 | AciD` | yes ! |
| 16:08.42 | AciD` | thank you abrotman |
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| 16:09.08 | chokesmaster | No one can help me with my preseed config file? |
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| 16:11.55 | j03h | abrotman this is my grub after press 'e' key... http://s13.postimg.org/omsijpjlj/grub.png |
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| 16:18.55 | ChrisH | j03h: at the end of the line starting wirh linux |
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| 16:19.13 | j03h | OOOO |
| 16:19.17 | j03h | thanks : |
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| 16:22.14 | Desert_eagle | hi2all |
| 16:23.05 | Desert_eagle | how could i get my servers rebooted after install with preseed.cfg? |
| 16:23.16 | Desert_eagle | hot shutted down or halted |
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| 16:24.19 | atannus | morning |
| 16:26.49 | moof2 | so they halt/poweroff now? |
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| 16:31.32 | tdn | ChrisH, hmm... Wondering if I should make such an area. What do you typically use it for? |
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| 16:31.57 | tdn | ChrisH, what is scratch data? |
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| 16:35.46 | ChrisH | tdn: scratch data is data you can loose without problems. extracted tar balls, iso images. DVD Rips for recode testing purpose. |
| 16:36.13 | ChrisH | tdn: I am offline now till tomorrow. |
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| 16:36.56 | tdn | ChrisH, ok. Thanks for your help today! |
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| 16:44.06 | katla | hi |
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| 16:44.38 | katla | how dO I make the F-keys work as F-kes rather than media buttons? |
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| 16:46.21 | moof2 | katla, does that depend on if you're running something that remaps the keys? |
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| 16:47.22 | moof2 | what de/wm are you running? what are all the things -that you're running- that could remap your keys in this way? |
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| 17:01.37 | skilz | Whats the easiest way to send/recieve mail from my box? |
| 17:01.52 | skilz | What do I need to install? |
| 17:02.09 | nkuttler | skilz: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config ? |
| 17:03.12 | daemonkeeper | Note that this won't work in 95% out of all cases. |
| 17:03.25 | daemonkeeper | If you are connected through a dial-up ISP for example. |
| 17:04.26 | skilz | daemonkeeper: I am connected with ADSL2+ |
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| 17:05.36 | daemonkeeper | skilz: That's my point. If you got an IP from a dial-in range, e.g. ADSL almost all mail relays will block your mail to minimize spam. |
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| 17:05.48 | skilz | daemonkeeper: Can you walk me through? I am wanting to run a local mail server so I can send recieve mail to my ip address. i.e root@myip.net |
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| 17:06.37 | skilz | daemonkeeper: Is there a work-around for this? Like say changing the ports that the mail server runs on? |
| 17:06.44 | daemonkeeper | As I say, you can set a mail server up, but it will be useless to you. |
| 17:07.01 | skilz | I've done it before years ago with some help. |
| 17:07.10 | daemonkeeper | Yes, relay mail through a known static relay, e.g. Google, or your ISP's mail server if they offer you one. |
| 17:07.34 | skilz | yes I will use gmail relay |
| 17:07.38 | nkuttler | i can use exim4 just fine over dsl, but i only send mails |
| 17:07.54 | daemonkeeper | nkuttler: Sure you can. But 99% of relays will drop your mail. |
| 17:08.08 | nkuttler | daemonkeeper: oh yeah, i only mail my own server.. |
| 17:08.15 | skilz | So should I choose internet site; mail send by smarthost; or what? |
| 17:08.20 | daemonkeeper | Yes. |
| 17:08.21 | daemonkeeper | That. |
| 17:08.33 | daemonkeeper | i.e. smarthost |
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| 17:08.56 | skilz | mail send by smarthost; recieved via SMTP or fetchmail ? |
| 17:09.04 | skilz | That one daemonkeeper ? |
| 17:09.11 | daemonkeeper | No, you want to connect to smarthost. |
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| 17:10.22 | skilz | There is 2 smarthost options. That one and "mail sent by smarthost; no local mail". |
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| 17:10.24 | eolabmub | Where do I type a command that starts with "sudo apt-get" to install software while using Debian with Gnome? |
| 17:10.40 | skilz | eolabmub: In your favorite terminal emulator. |
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| 17:11.02 | skilz | eolabmub: I.e, rxvt-unicode, xterm, gterm. |
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| 17:11.05 | smw | eolabmub, gnome comes with a program called "terminal" |
| 17:11.18 | eolabmub | thanks |
| 17:11.27 | daemonkeeper | skilz: I don't know about exim or its configuration. I tell you the high level solution. |
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| 17:12.16 | Th0masR0ss | ...? |
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| 17:16.08 | Zvpun | My iceweasel reports version 10.0.12, does that mean I am using Firefox 10.0.12? |
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| 17:16.41 | abrotman | Zvpun: roughly, yes |
| 17:16.45 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Zvpun about mdn |
| 17:17.34 | skilz | I wish to report Debian Wheezy runs great on my dual 867Mhz box. |
| 17:18.18 | eolabmub | I am trying to install build-essential . When I type sudo apt-get install build-essential then type Y when asked if I want to install 80 or so MB, I get asked to put in the install disc into /media/cdrom. I installed from a USB stick and I have no CD/DVD rom drive. Please help. |
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| 17:18.58 | Zvpun | abrotman: thank you! |
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| 17:19.11 | Sevet | !tell eolabmub -about sources.list |
| 17:19.18 | skilz | eolabmub: type this: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list Then comment out the line about cdrom. |
| 17:19.40 | nuke_ | hello chaps |
| 17:19.43 | skilz | eolabmub: Then sudo apt-get update |
| 17:20.00 | Sevet | check it has the web mirror sources as well as removing the cdrom one - check the dpkg factoid |
| 17:20.31 | nuke_ | does anyone know a good supported combination of ircd + services for debian? |
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| 17:20.57 | skilz | nuke_: unrealircd? |
| 17:21.31 | nuke_ | I was looking at inspircd + atheme |
| 17:21.49 | eolabmub | how do I save changes to sources.list? |
| 17:21.50 | nuke_ | but I see atheme-services has only been packaged for jessie |
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| 17:22.05 | pengol | hi there ... I'm trying to upload big files with php+apache ... I have set php limits to 10G but the upload process stop at 2GB. I have read that there is a limit inside apache that can be overcome using LimitRequestBody directive. I have set it to 0 inside my VirtualHost configuration, but it still doesn't work. I'm using apache 2.2.16 on a debian squeeze. Any suggestion? |
| 17:22.11 | nuke_ | and it is a major version behind |
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| 17:22.31 | abrotman | pengol: what's the filesystem that you're uploading to? |
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| 17:22.59 | Sevet | eolabmub: in nano? Ctrl-X Y Enter |
| 17:23.00 | nuke_ | pengol: is it timing out? or stopping exactly at 2GB? |
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| 17:23.23 | eolabmub | thank you |
| 17:24.56 | pengol | ext3 |
| 17:25.14 | ksk | pengol: maybe its not too cool to upload stuff > some hundred MB via http? |
| 17:25.21 | pengol | exactly at 2GB I already increased time limits |
| 17:25.22 | ksk | or, via php |
| 17:26.01 | pengol | ksk: I agree what do you suggest? |
| 17:26.16 | nuke_ | pengol: are you running PHP with fcgi or mod_php? |
| 17:26.28 | pengol | mod_php |
| 17:26.51 | Sevet | pengol: depends what you're doing... a file transfer protocol though, ftp/scp/sftp/rsync... |
| 17:26.54 | nuke_ | pengol: you should really use scp or sftp |
| 17:27.13 | ksk | what nuke_ says. but i do understand its not always possible |
| 17:27.40 | ksk | and you should problably not use ftp, it may work, but ftp sucks ;) |
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| 17:28.39 | Dongyancai | hi there, how to use lockd in nfs now? the description of nfs-common says it includes lockd, but the files list doesn't. |
| 17:28.43 | pengol | ftp? sftp? I need users to upload files in my website, public ftp is not an option, sftp either. |
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| 17:32.18 | drAvanti | hello sirs |
| 17:32.35 | drAvanti | does anyone of any GUI app that I can install and use to download videos from youtube / any flash sites |
| 17:33.12 | zerick | drAvanti, Jdownloader |
| 17:33.41 | zerick | there's aslo a python script, but as far as I know.. it's for youtube (I guess it's pytube or something like that) |
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| 17:34.16 | zerick | s/aslo/also |
| 17:34.18 | drAvanti | zerick, Jdownloader. Is that the name of the package? |
| 17:34.41 | drAvanti | zerick, when i try to apt-get it, im getting the error "unable to locate package downloader" |
| 17:35.20 | zerick | drAvanti, nope, http://jdownloader.org/download/index |
| 17:35.48 | zerick | drAvanti, its written in Java.. you will need to install Jave before :) |
| 17:35.59 | zerick | But it's very useful |
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| 17:36.10 | drAvanti | zerick, isnt Jdownloader for windows, the url u gave shows windows |
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| 17:36.28 | nuke_ | agree with zerick, JDonwloader is a handy tool |
| 17:36.49 | drAvanti | ow ok, ive found it |
| 17:36.54 | zerick | drAvanti, look carefully |
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| 17:37.02 | drAvanti | zerick, ow ok, i didnt scroll down |
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| 17:38.10 | zerick | lol :) |
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| 17:56.05 | skilz | In my modem/router config, I have a rule that send all traffic to my webserver port 8080 "192.168.1.116". But since I setup dynamic dns service. It now goes to router login "192.168.1.1"??? |
| 17:56.45 | void__ | maybe router is listening on port 80 or 443 or smthn |
| 17:56.53 | skilz | Looks something like Source: Port from: 8080 Port To: 8080 Destination: 192.168.1.116 |
| 17:57.03 | void__ | just test with adding the port number after the dns name |
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| 17:57.41 | skilz | In my modem/router config, I have a rule that send all traffic to my webserver port 8080 "192.168.1.116". But since I setup dynamic dns service. It now goes to router login "192.168.1.1"??? |
| 17:57.45 | Guest74450 | Looks something like Source: Port from: 8080 Port To: 8080 Destination: 192.168.1.116 |
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| 18:00.03 | jhutchins | What's the last iceweasel update to lenny? |
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| 18:01.28 | bs0d | Hello everybody |
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| 18:01.42 | nkuttler | ,v iceweasel |
| 18:01.43 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 10.0.12esr-1; jessie: 10.0.12esr-1+nmu1; wheezy-security: 17.0.7esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 17.0.7esr-1; experimental: 22.0-1 |
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| 18:02.15 | nkuttler | jhutchins: ^^ or do you mean /usr/share/doc/iceweasel/changelog.Debian.gz ? |
| 18:03.00 | bs0d | Has anyone installed deb on Acer Aspire V3 517G-3311? Im not sure that all the necessary drivers exist. Pls share your experience. |
| 18:03.12 | jhutchins | nkuttler: Trying to find out what the last update for lenny was. |
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| 18:03.21 | bs0d | it comes with Win8 OEM by default |
| 18:03.29 | nkuttler | oh, lenny.. |
| 18:03.33 | bs0d | but I want to install Deian instead of Win |
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| 18:06.18 | drAvanti | zerick, thanks man for the tip. this is exactly what ive been looking for |
| 18:06.37 | zerick | you're welcome ;) |
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| 18:13.28 | jhutchins | It looks like 3.6 is in the backports.org directory on archive.debian.org, but I can't seem to get it to install. |
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| 18:19.24 | babilen | dpkg: tell bs0d -about install debian |
| 18:19.31 | babilen | dpkg: tell bs0d -about firmware image |
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| 18:20.28 | Skilz | In my modem/router config, I have a rule that send all traffic to my webserver port 8080 "192.168.1.116". But since I setup dynamic dns service. It now goes to router login "192.168.1.1"??? |
| 18:20.33 | Skilz | Looks something like Source: Port from: 8080 Port To: 8080 Destination: 192.168.1.116 |
| 18:20.40 | Skilz | In my modem/router config, I have a rule that send all traffic to my webserver port 8080 "192.168.1.116". But since I setup dynamic dns service. It now goes to router login "192.168.1.1"??? |
| 18:20.54 | Skilz | Sorry about the double post. |
| 18:21.44 | jhutchins | What's the command to see the policy that is preventing packages from upgrading? |
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| 18:26.03 | jhutchins | Skilz: We don't knwo what router you have or how to configure it, but you want to send traffic destined TO <external ip> <port> to the internal port/address. |
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| 18:26.11 | bs0d | babilen: I have installed Debian prreviously on a PC, but I am really not sure if Debian "all drivers" option has drivers needed for my notebook. That's why I wonder if anyone has a successful experience of installing Debian on a Acer Aspire V3-571G |
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| 18:26.46 | mumpitzel | bs0d: it will work, but the secureboot part is evil |
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| 18:27.06 | bs0d | and If I install Debian I need to delete the Recovery partition (Win 8), so I need want to be sure that Debian will run on this HW |
| 18:27.20 | mumpitzel | why do you need to delete it? and why can't you backup it? |
| 18:27.43 | mumpitzel | bs0d: as I wrote above, the main problem is your UEFI + secureboot |
| 18:28.10 | bs0d | mumpitzel: I can turn it off in BIOS |
| 18:28.45 | bs0d | mumpitzel: my main concern are drivers - does Debian have the necessary drivers or not. Maybe there exists some tool to check? |
| 18:28.59 | jhutchins | bs0d: Install it and see if it works. That's how you do it. |
| 18:29.25 | bs0d | I tried to run Debian LiveCD and got lots of failed attempts to different stuff (do not remember exactly now), and X server failed to load correctly - I got the message saying this |
| 18:29.43 | mtn | bs0d: of course, if you know what chips you have, you can research it. |
| 18:29.57 | jhutchins | bs0d: Use clonezilla or something to back up the recovery partition. |
| 18:30.13 | mumpitzel | ah, it has optimus too |
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| 18:34.15 | mumpitzel | bs0d: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QB-xcz10bkMJ:www.linlap.com/acer_aspire_v5-571g+&cd=1&hl=de&ct=clnk&gl=de&client=firefox-a seems to work under linux so far |
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| 18:36.30 | jhutchins | Wierd, I guess the index for lenny backports never got updated. |
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| 19:09.52 | JensNDS | moin moin |
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| 19:11.38 | yang | how to edit /etc/network/interfaces for open wifi, could anyone paste the lines |
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| 19:11.51 | yang | i have wireless-essid set |
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| 19:12.30 | yang | but its open and no encryption key |
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| 19:13.08 | moof2 | well, you're better off commenting out all the wifi lines in that file and using something like nm or wicd |
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| 19:13.24 | yang | hm |
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| 19:13.40 | yang | i need to specify essid |
| 19:13.47 | mumpitzel | yang: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
| 19:13.55 | moof2 | then you can actually pointeyclickeyconnect to wifi access points when you're out and about with your machine |
| 19:14.32 | moof2 | does that sound like something you would do? (being out with your machine and wanting to connect) |
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| 19:15.23 | mumpitzel | hopefully he lives on a tropical island with only 100 nm water around him when he runs an open hotspot... |
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| 19:15.44 | mumpitzel | or maybe near the arctic circle with only polar bears around |
| 19:16.00 | moof2 | polar bears have a different exploit |
| 19:16.23 | yang | well wpa-psk doesnt specify how to use no password |
| 19:16.33 | mumpitzel | two of them: claws 1.0 and teeth "razor edition" |
| 19:16.50 | moof2 | all in the brute force group |
| 19:16.52 | mumpitzel | yang: I didn't link your the wpa part, did I? |
| 19:17.18 | chokesmaster | I'm trying to create a preseed file that create 2 raid1 partitions and then create LVM partition on it... My config file look like this: http://pastebin.com/6WWhaKrq |
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| 19:19.07 | Skilz | How do I get my sound working? |
| 19:19.14 | yang | can you tell me how to disable password wifi |
| 19:19.32 | ompaul | Skilz: alsamixer on the CLI and turn on PCM |
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| 19:23.31 | Skilz | ompaul: Thanks mate. |
| 19:24.53 | ompaul | Skilz: enjoy it |
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| 19:28.32 | moof2 | chokesmaster, trying to figure how to get you more info... are you using fai? |
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| 19:30.59 | chokesmaster | moof2, not sure what is fai i'm just trying to make a config file to auto install debian |
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| 19:31.39 | chokesmaster | So i guess i don't use fai |
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| 19:34.09 | moof2 | maybe fai is a different form of preseed... and maybe people on #fai on irc.oftc.net use both... check the topic as you join (as -always-) and see if you can get more info |
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| 19:34.59 | chokesmaster | moof2, ok i will look into it :) |
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| 19:40.26 | Doyle | Hey, is it safe to delete unused kernel versions from /boot? |
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| 19:40.53 | format_c | Doyle, yes |
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| 19:41.12 | Doyle | use rpm, or just rm the files? |
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| 19:41.12 | format_c | But you could also remove them using aptitude |
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| 19:41.16 | format_c | Doyle, rpm? |
| 19:41.20 | format_c | This is debian |
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| 19:41.28 | Doyle | ... yea, im a rhel guy normally |
| 19:41.47 | format_c | The better way is to use aptitude |
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| 19:41.58 | Doyle | don't gimme no aptitude! this is rhel!... was my saying |
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| 19:43.50 | format_c | Doyle, mhh then you're in the wrong channeö |
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| 19:45.35 | format_c | But spoken in analogous words, I would use rpm to uninstall the linux-image package |
| 19:45.41 | man_in_shack | does the debian wheezy installer support gpt partition tables? |
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| 19:45.52 | mumpitzel | !gpt |
| 19:45.52 | dpkg | GPT (GUID Partition Table) is a disk partition format frequently used by firmware compliant with the Extensible Firmware Interface (<EFI>). util-linux's <fdisk> does not support GPT, ask me about <parted>. http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-gpt/ |
| 19:45.59 | format_c | This shoudld also remove all related files including the bzInage in /boot |
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| 19:54.30 | chomwitt | in build-essential package there are two files , one (gcc,make,libc) and another one with a longer list with smaller utilities like (bash,coreutils,grep,gzip,...) . But the build-essential package depends on package mentiononed only in the first list. So how will the second list be enforced? |
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| 19:55.23 | moof2 | if something in the first list depends on something in the second |
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| 19:55.56 | moof2 | is bash in build-essential? |
| 19:56.18 | moof2 | , depends build-essential |
| 19:56.19 | judd | Package build-essential in wheezy/i386 -- depends: libc6-dev | libc-dev, gcc (>= 4:4.4.3), g++ (>= 4:4.4.3), make, dpkg-dev (>= 1.13.5). |
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| 20:03.46 | chomwitt | moof2: i probed a little and i found only base-files (in a chain from first list to the second) |
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| 20:05.58 | moof2 | hmm... well, as you can see, the dep list has about 4 items on it |
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| 20:30.40 | mercutio22 | how can I find out which version of debain I am using? |
| 20:30.49 | mercutio22 | jessie/ wheezy? |
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| 20:33.06 | LtL | mercutio22: lsb_release -a should be accurate |
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| 21:05.05 | halt | Hi all, I try to build my custom live debian, is there any ready tools for it, or an up-to-date howto ? |
| 21:06.18 | halt | I do not need to much just keyboard layout, some extra packages and few tricky mount |
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| 21:10.03 | AleXa | why would anybody choose Debian over Ubuntu? my friend asked me today to download Debian for him, but I'm not sure what are front end differences hence the desktop environments |
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| 21:13.00 | mtn | AleXa: stabily is a big reason. what do you mean by front end differneces? |
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| 21:14.10 | halt | AleXa: good question! as desktop maybe not the perfect choose, but there are much more package and they are much more stable...also the Ubuntu is stil based on debian, the debain has bigger user background |
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| 21:14.14 | AleXa | mtn, differencies that would beginner user notice using gui |
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| 21:14.55 | mtn | AleXa: well, gnome is different from unity, so some would like it and some may not. |
| 21:15.14 | brontosaurusrex | AleXa, there is lots of different dekstop enviroments or window managers or tilers |
| 21:15.42 | mtn | AleXa: and debian supports them all, not just one main one. |
| 21:16.14 | AleXa | what if you have two PCs in one room. one Ubuntu and one Debian, but both using xfce. Would anyone see the difference? |
| 21:16.28 | brontosaurusrex | AleXa, nope |
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| 21:16.40 | mtn | AleXa: I doubt there would be much difference in appearance. |
| 21:18.01 | halt | so anyone live cd customizer ? |
| 21:18.01 | AleXa | that's what I meant. so I was wondering, why does my friend want to install Debian, when he's Linux beginner. Has had Ubuntu for month |
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| 21:18.32 | TheDrums | AleXa: If you pick the same theme and configure things the same. If you use Debian stable, it has an older version of Xfce, but teseting has 4.10. |
| 21:18.32 | halt | AleXa: Did you ask him/her ? |
| 21:18.38 | brontosaurusrex | why not ask him? |
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| 21:19.54 | AleXa | while having short phone conversation with him, I asked the question, but his reason was DE, from what I could understand |
| 21:20.23 | moof2 | AleXa, maybe he liked the way debian sets up the DE he uses? |
| 21:20.27 | brontosaurusrex | AleXa, its easier to start with smaller base like Debian net installer i assume |
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| 21:20.47 | AleXa | I didn't have time to explain him that changing DE can be done without installing system from zero |
| 21:20.55 | damentz | AleXa, the release cycle for debian is easier to manage, and the upgrade path from one stable release to another is highly tested |
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| 21:21.21 | damentz | if you don't ever want to reinstall the OS for your server, start with debian and see if it works for you |
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| 21:21.51 | AleXa | it happened me on Ubuntu to have problem with kernel, sometimes with WiFi, sometimes with graphics |
| 21:22.08 | AleXa | occurred after kernel update |
| 21:22.12 | AleXa | upgrade |
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| 21:23.15 | damentz | AleXa, oh, i misread your earlier messages, the desktop is much more different and personal |
| 21:23.53 | damentz | i think the distro your friend chooses actually revolves around their personality and priorities - if they don't care about learning how to maintain their system very well, give them ubuntu to start with |
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| 21:25.04 | damentz | i personally use kubuntu in a VM at work just because it is preset with everything i need + plus some extra multimedia packages that i immediately purge |
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| 21:28.19 | AleXa | who has greater user support? |
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| 21:28.35 | moof2 | Barak Obama? |
| 21:28.58 | mumpitzel | not anymore. justin bieber |
| 21:29.09 | AleXa | I'm serious |
| 21:29.13 | moof2 | oh, now could I make that mistake... |
| 21:29.13 | mumpitzel | so are we |
| 21:29.51 | moof2 | AleXa, it's a little hard to tell... support around here has a very strong parental vibe sometimes |
| 21:30.27 | mumpitzel | moof2: Luke, I'm your father? |
| 21:30.33 | moof2 | luke! |
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| 21:31.22 | moof2 | well more like, "I haven't told you about X because you haven't told me something that shows you can handle it" |
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| 21:33.23 | AleXa | maybe you're missing a second head - two heads are smarter than one |
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| 21:34.38 | AleXa | anyway, thanks for answers |
| 21:34.38 | AleXa | bye |
| 21:34.44 | moof2 | AleXa, |
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| 21:35.03 | moof2 | was there something you wanted to tell your friend about debian? |
| 21:35.16 | AleXa | yes |
| 21:35.31 | moof2 | and do you already have the info you want for that? |
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| 21:36.49 | AleXa | yes |
| 21:36.55 | moof2 | one thing you can say to him, is that debian is pretty strongly slanted towards stability (and so, it's good for servers and could be inconvenient for people who want particular versions, especially latest of anything) |
| 21:37.42 | jdoles | Where is $PATH set on a system starting from the complete beginning on Wheezy? |
| 21:37.49 | moof2 | ubuntu is not slanted in that direction, or if they are, it's a much weaker slant |
| 21:38.48 | moof2 | jdoles, remembering that PATH is an env var, and every process on your system could have PATH set, |
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| 21:39.06 | jdoles | moof2: if you don't know the answer, please do not reply. |
| 21:39.31 | moof2 | it depends on how you log in. |
| 21:39.41 | jdoles | moof2: some elements don't. |
| 21:40.00 | jdoles | moof2: I am asking for someone to give a *better* answer than I already have myself. |
| 21:40.26 | jdoles | moof2: there is no point in continuing this discussion; you have already demonstrated that you cannot provide a correct answer. |
| 21:40.38 | jdoles | moof2: thank you for trying, but no thanks. |
| 21:40.42 | moof2 | then be specific about what you know yourself; it's fairly rude to say "don't answer" when you have not been specific about that |
| 21:41.30 | moof2 | read the man page on your shell |
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| 21:41.39 | jdoles | moof2: please just stop. |
| 21:42.16 | moof2 | !better |
| 21:42.17 | dpkg | hmm... better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 21:42.32 | jdoles | Better is not a matter of personal taste in this context. |
| 21:42.33 | mtn | jdoles: looks like this might help: http://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables |
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| 21:43.11 | jdoles | mtn: it's inaccurate and incomplete. |
| 21:43.17 | moof2 | then you have a specific answer to what you consider better? or you have your part of the answer so we can diff it with whatever is complete? |
| 21:43.19 | mtn | shrug |
| 21:43.41 | moof2 | if not, don't get hostile. |
| 21:43.49 | jdoles | moof2: why can't you just accept that you can't help? |
| 21:44.04 | LtL | jdoles: read the debian-handbook if you're not satisfied with the help here. |
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| 21:44.12 | jdoles | LtL: good idea. |
| 21:44.31 | moof2 | no one can help until you specify what you know already (you did say you had an idea of a piece of the answer) |
| 21:45.20 | jdoles | LtL: the Debian handbook also is very incomplete. |
| 21:45.40 | jdoles | It's alsmost like I should write a book on Debian, if that's the best. |
| 21:45.42 | moof2 | ok, then write something that is complete, and have it included in the handbook |
| 21:45.51 | jdoles | almost* |
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| 21:46.41 | moof2 | btw, great job in finding people willing to help you. good luck with that. |
| 21:47.16 | jdoles | moof2: great job in not learning to just accept you don't know anything, but instead continue to cry like a baby. |
| 21:47.16 | ompaul | jdoles: have a look at the debian system adminstrators handbook |
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| 21:47.52 | jdoles | ompaul: that was what I was talking about before. |
| 21:48.13 | ompaul | jdoles: that's what I get for not reading enough backscroll :) |
| 21:48.14 | moof2 | jdoles, if you don't specify what you do and do not know, there is not any way someone can supplement your knowledge. |
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| 21:48.52 | jdoles | moof2: is there an off button on you? |
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| 21:49.00 | jdoles | moof2: I don't like to ignore people. |
| 21:49.03 | moof2 | you're failing to be cooperaive to people who volunteer their time for free to help you |
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| 21:49.17 | jdoles | moof2: your time has negative value. |
| 21:49.22 | moof2 | maybe you should get a paid support contract |
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| 21:49.34 | jdoles | moof2: I don't know anyone smart enough to pay. |
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| 21:49.49 | ompaul | jdoles: paths come from the system profile and bashrc which are then given to users - as the basis for those users along with the vars in the users own .profile and .bashrc |
| 21:50.03 | jdoles | ompaul: spare your efforts. |
| 21:50.16 | jdoles | I will just figure it out myself. This is going nowhere. |
| 21:50.19 | ompaul | jdoles: however you are really not helping yourself, what do you know if you want someone to actually tell you how the path is created |
| 21:50.42 | ompaul | because that's how it is done as far as I know and I'd love to be corrected if wrong |
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| 21:51.32 | moof2 | ompaul, you probably shouldn't bother... he's not willing to participate in any conversation that does not benefit him and only him |
| 21:52.00 | moof2 | the form of this shows he knows more than he's saying |
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| 21:55.40 | stegbth | Hi |
| 21:55.41 | jhutchins | Bah, I'm blind, 3.5.16 is the last iceweasel for lenny. |
| 21:56.03 | jhutchins | There were rumors of 3.6 but it's not in the archives. |
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| 21:56.16 | stegbth | help, i crashed my Debian Xen server with upgrade from 6.0.7 to 7.1 |
| 21:56.17 | format_c | stegbth, hi |
| 21:56.41 | stegbth | grub complains about "_divmod64_full not found" |
| 21:56.54 | moof2 | libgcc? |
| 21:57.07 | stegbth | i rebootet the system with a grml rescue cd, mountet everything and ran |
| 21:57.18 | stegbth | grub-install --boot-directory /boot/grub --no-floppy --recheck /dev/sda |
| 21:57.21 | moof2 | wait, grub complains? what is your cpu? |
| 21:57.22 | stegbth | without any error |
| 21:57.27 | stegbth | amd64 |
| 21:57.31 | stegbth | intel xeon |
| 21:57.39 | twikz | Hey guys, I have problem to configure wide-dhcp6-client with prefix delegation by using the option "send ia-pd 0". The dhcp-client fails to launch and syslog shows the message "add_options: /etc/wide-dhcpv6/dhcp6c.conf:2 IA_PD (0) is not defined". What does that exactly mean? Does anybody have an idea for a solution or workaround? |
| 21:57.47 | moof2 | your boot dir is /boot |
| 21:57.55 | stegbth | moof2: yes |
| 21:58.01 | stegbth | /dev/sda2 |
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| 21:58.22 | ompaul | stegbth: are you running it locally or remotely? |
| 21:58.49 | stegbth | remotely, having a friend locally to starting the grml for me |
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| 21:59.20 | moof2 | if lotsa people use it... that makes it kinda a production box |
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| 22:00.48 | ompaul | stegbth: read this before you progress http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Common_Problems What's the difference between Xen hypervisor (from xen.org) and Citrix XenServer or XCP? |
| 22:01.36 | stegbth | no i didn't read, but had Debian 6.0.7 with Xen 4.0 before |
| 22:02.00 | ompaul | stegbth: I'm asking you to read it and sea4rch for the What's the ... part |
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| 22:02.44 | moof2 | stegbth, if this is a production server, I would suggest restoring from your latest backup |
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| 22:03.18 | stegbth | isn't it possible to repair grub? |
| 22:03.52 | moof2 | it should be possible to load appropriate modules and try to boot "manually" with grub |
| 22:03.59 | ompaul | depends on what you did ... if half your packages are upgraded your not going to be in a good place |
| 22:04.03 | ompaul | !downgrade |
| 22:04.04 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 22:04.39 | stegbth | how can i boot manually ? |
| 22:05.05 | moof2 | get to the grub menu, and hit e to edit or I think it's s for a shell |
| 22:05.23 | moof2 | the shell does tab completion, so the tab key is your friend... |
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| 22:05.34 | moof2 | if it's not even booting, then you need something like: |
| 22:05.40 | moof2 | !fix grub |
| 22:05.40 | dpkg | takes grub to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 22:05.40 | stegbth | there does not came up the menu |
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| 22:06.09 | ompaul | stegbth: the grub menu does not arise, does any specific error message show? |
| 22:06.13 | moof2 | ok, trying to find it, dpkg is being faceions right now |
| 22:06.34 | moof2 | !restore grub |
| 22:06.58 | stegbth | grub_divmod64_full not found |
| 22:07.43 | Zone | stegbth: there's quite a few references to that error message online, with solutions too. Seems like you need to make sure grub is being installed to the right HDD/partition, but see the threads for details. |
| 22:08.16 | Zone | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=640517 |
| 22:08.31 | stegbth | i already reinstalled grub with grub-mkconfig and update-grub |
| 22:08.34 | Zone | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=104756&start=15 |
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| 22:09.13 | moof2 | does /boot/grub/grub exist? |
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| 22:10.04 | moof2 | you may also need to refresh the innards of grub, with a call to grub-install (those things only affect the config) |
| 22:10.29 | stegbth | grub-install --boot-directory /boot/grub --no-floppy --recheck /dev/sda |
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| 22:12.37 | moof2 | stegbth, do you have lvm or raid or encrypted partitions? |
| 22:12.53 | stegbth | lvm yes, but my root is /dev/sda2 |
| 22:13.05 | stegbth | raid is a internal hardware raid |
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| 22:14.12 | moof2 | so there's a hw raid controller soemwhere (we'll stack that for now) and you have something called sda |
| 22:14.22 | moof2 | could you say more about what sda is? |
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| 22:15.36 | moof2 | is sda a single drive not part of the raid? |
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| 22:16.13 | moof2 | he's not here is he |
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| 22:16.59 | stegbth | juhu |
| 22:17.09 | moof2 | oh there you are |
| 22:17.40 | stegbth | the system ist booting, when i start it from commandline |
| 22:17.50 | stegbth | after changing the bootdevice in the raidcontroller |
| 22:18.36 | moof2 | I just checked the man page, and you don't want --boot-directory=/boot/grub... here is the relevent info on that: |
| 22:18.54 | stegbth | but it seems not to read grub.cfg automatically? |
| 22:19.06 | moof2 | install GRUB images under the directory DIR/grub instead of the /boot/grub directory |
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| 22:20.13 | moof2 | so the default is /boot which means put stuff in /boot/grub... if you want to change where .../grub is to be found, say in /path/to/boot/grub |
| 22:20.35 | moof2 | then you would do --boot-directory=/path/to/boot |
| 22:21.00 | moof2 | does /boot/grub/grub exist? |
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| 22:22.51 | Rix | is dns based cdn (bind with split zones using 'view' and acls from geoip) a good thing? the only drawback i see is that if an european visitor has a dns in u.s. (for example google's) he will be redirected to server based in u.s. instead of europe.. |
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| 22:24.04 | moof2 | Rix, there must have been a reason to create it |
| 22:24.08 | stegbth | moof2: i do not understand, my data are below of /boot/grub |
| 22:24.20 | Rix | yes to offload some traffic |
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| 22:24.42 | Rix | better location for a visitor = faster server |
| 22:24.44 | Zone | Rix: a) yes, it's a good thing. b) without geotargeting your theoretical EU visitor is no better off. c) I would assume Google has considered that and queries using local IPs |
| 22:24.56 | moof2 | stegbth, if you install grub with --boot-directory=/boot/grub, |
| 22:25.06 | moof2 | it will create /boot/grub/grub |
| 22:25.15 | Rix | Zone yes but i tried and google hasnt consider it.. |
| 22:25.16 | Zone | Rix: but I would use a DNS service provider, no reason to do it yourself unless you're really on a budget |
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| 22:26.13 | moof2 | basically... you don't want the pain of having to do all the necessary stuff yourself |
| 22:26.25 | Zone | Rix: meh, still better than nothing. Visitors using non-local third-party DNS services must be a tiny percentage I would think. |
| 22:26.45 | Rix | i have two servers - one in my country - Bulgaria and one in Germany, what im trying to achive is get all users outside Bulgaria connect to the German server, but if some Bulgarian is using DNS resolver which is located outside Bulgaria - then he/she will connect to the german site |
| 22:27.15 | Rix | Zone i hope you are right about the third party dns users |
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| 22:27.23 | format_c | stegbth, I think what moof2 wants to say is that you should try to install grub w/o the --boot-directory option |
| 22:27.27 | Rix | thanks a lot i will use dns based on geoip for cdn :) |
| 22:27.30 | pengol | hi there, is there a way to make dpkg-buildpackage automatically satisfy build dependencies? |
| 22:27.47 | stegbth | moof2: ah, ok, i tried with grub-install --boot-directory /boot --no-floppy --recheck /dev/sda; update-grub |
| 22:27.51 | jdoles | Rix: the only thing bind is good for is remote root exploits. |
| 22:28.09 | Zone | Rix: when you queried using Google from an EU client, what IP did Google query your DNS with? |
| 22:28.37 | HelenaKitty | Hello, what is /home/remastersys/remastersys/tmpusers for? |
| 22:29.00 | HelenaKitty | Is it for what users get removed from the remaster? |
| 22:29.05 | stegbth | but what i am not understanding, no in grub.cfg i have again set root='(vg0-usr)' |
| 22:29.21 | Rix | Zone 8.8.8.8 |
| 22:29.22 | stegbth | if loadfont /share/grub/unicode.pf2; then |
| 22:29.40 | moof2 | stegbth, that's weird... do you not have a separate / volume? |
| 22:29.41 | jelly-home | HelenaKitty: what is remastersys? |
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| 22:29.51 | Rix | if i query 8.8.8.8 my server then it returns as if im in usa, but im in eu really |
| 22:30.06 | ompaul | remastersys is not a debian thing is it a thing from elsewhere on it's own .com site |
| 22:30.18 | jelly-home | oh, a "thing" |
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| 22:30.22 | kryl | hi |
| 22:30.23 | kryl | impossible to connect my android to linux ! I receive this error msg : libusb_detach_kernel_driver() failed, continuing anyway...: No such file or directory |
| 22:30.24 | jelly-home | "thanks" |
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| 22:30.47 | Zone | Rix: thanks, interesting and good to know. |
| 22:30.49 | stegbth | moof2: yes / is a own partition, but usr is a lvm |
| 22:31.03 | stegbth | but maybe it works. i will test tomorrow and reboot the server once again |
| 22:31.27 | pythonsnake | http://pastie.org/private/e5ayos3b1mj0rxse87fpaq |
| 22:31.30 | pythonsnake | hi |
| 22:31.37 | pythonsnake | can anyone tell me what's wrong here please? |
| 22:31.57 | moof2 | stegbth, so then should you have root=/dev/(forgot, is it)sda2? |
| 22:32.42 | stegbth | moof2: http://paste.debian.net/14457/ |
| 22:33.10 | Rix | Zone when you ask for the ip of a domain you really ask your dns resolver to tell you the ip. the resolver on the otherside queries the name server of the domain and gets the ip from it and returns it to you. so basically if my dns resolver is google, which itself is in usa it makes the query to the my nameserver which returns the usa |
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| 22:33.17 | Rix | server cause the resolver is from usa |
| 22:33.25 | Rix | the client doesn't matter |
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| 22:34.13 | Rix | client -> resolver -> name server -> the dns name servers looksup location of resolver and returns the nearest server -> resolver returns that ip to -> client |
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| 22:35.26 | Rix | so basically if the client is in Germany, but he has specified a resolver in USA, then the dns name server will return a server based in USA, cause it checks only the resolver |
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| 22:36.30 | Rix | anyway, does anyone know if many clients use outside/remote dns resolvers instead of a local one? or such users are less than 1% |
| 22:37.57 | moof2 | umm... one way, root shoudl be set to the /boot partition |
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| 22:39.18 | moof2 | I'm not that great with grub2... and, I can't find where it loads the initrd or the kernel |
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| 22:40.03 | moof2 | there's a coupla different "root"s, one is the partition for / |
| 22:40.40 | moof2 | that's what you would put in linux /path/to/vmlinuz ... root=/this/partition |
| 22:41.21 | moof2 | the -grub- root is where to find the vmlinuzes |
| 22:41.29 | moof2 | and the initrd |
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| 22:41.44 | Zone | Rix: yes, I know how DNS works :) A bit of research shows that Google did consider this, and you can target to them based on the subnet they use to query your name server (at least according to their FAQ): |
| 22:41.47 | Zone | https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/faq#locations |
| 22:41.54 | moof2 | so, same word, "root", two different meanings |
| 22:42.39 | Zone | Rix: also, see http://afasterinternet.com/ That looks like it passes the end user's IP address/subnet/geo info along with the DNS request. |
| 22:43.06 | Zone | Rix: and this is why you use an outsourced geo DNS service. they already know these things and have them set up :) |
| 22:43.10 | Rix | wow thanks a lot, that helps very much, i didn't know, thanks Zone |
| 22:43.17 | stegbth | moof2: thankyou very much |
| 22:43.20 | stegbth | i will try tomorrow |
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| 22:44.57 | moof2 | stegbth, so the -grub- root has to be set first (most likely to the partition you have for /boot) |
| 22:45.55 | moof2 | then, in the grub config stanza, references to files will be against grub's root... so /vmlinuz is really (grub root device)/vmlinuz |
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| 22:46.00 | Rix | Zone but it shows the resolver address only |
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| 22:47.44 | Rix | Zone in that example that they have given, they use +client=ip |
| 22:47.48 | Zone | Rix: the afasterinternet.com link shows that they are passing the client's subnet too. And the resolver subnet should be different depending on the request, even though your testing didn't show that. |
| 22:47.52 | Rix | so only if the resolver is doing that it will show clients ip |
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| 22:48.19 | sdfsdf | ~hi |
| 22:48.19 | apt | hello, sdfsdf |
| 22:48.26 | sdfsdf | ~fortune |
| 22:48.27 | apt | somebody said fortune was a kickass app available for Linux. Packages are in OZ and http://frob.us/modules.php?name=Fortune lets you use fortune over the web. |
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| 23:25.47 | Grell | what package do i install in order to get the sources and man pages for system development on Debian? |
| 23:26.45 | ompaul | Grell: start with apt-cache search build-essential |
| 23:26.50 | Zone | Grell: most of the man pages for C development are there by default. What specifically do you want to develop? |
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| 23:27.13 | Grell | for instance there is no man page for the mount syscall |
| 23:27.17 | Grell | man 2 mount |
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| 23:27.24 | nkuttler | Grell: try manpages-dev |
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| 23:28.44 | Zone | Grell: also you can use http://packages.debian.org/ if you want to know what package provides a certain file. E.g. /usr/share/man/man2/mount.2.gz is provided by manpages-dev |
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| 23:30.24 | factor | Does debian have autoconf 2.69 I only can get 2.64 |
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| 23:31.26 | Zone | factor: http://packages.debian.org/autoconf |
| 23:31.26 | Grell | is there a driver for UFS? |
| 23:31.43 | Grell | or UFS2 |
| 23:32.09 | factor | Zone thanks , looks like I should have 2.69 |
| 23:32.24 | nkuttler | Grell: last time i checked linux had ufs support.. |
| 23:32.37 | nkuttler | ,v autoconf |
| 23:32.39 | judd | Package: autoconf on i386 -- squeeze: 2.67-2; jessie: 2.69-1; sid: 2.69-1; wheezy: 2.69-1 |
| 23:32.39 | Zone | Grell: apt-cache search ufs - shows ufstools, so there must be support |
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| 23:33.06 | nkuttler | factor: output of apt-cache policy autoconf? |
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| 23:34.34 | factor | nkuttler, ok thanks |
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| 23:34.45 | factor | says that is what I got but latest one is 2.64 |
| 23:34.57 | nkuttler | factor: pastebin the output.. |
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| 23:36.40 | factor | nkuttler, hold on manually did autoreconf , see if this fixes the problem |
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| 23:37.32 | moof2 | factor, if you want the latest you may have to build it,,, the dependency web is going to box you into a specific version of most everything; as you can see there are other versions and they might depend on sections of other deb versions that could break your installation |
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| 23:38.24 | factor | Trying to compile firmware for asus router. |
| 23:38.49 | nkuttler | moof2: it looks like he's either on pre-oldstable or not on debian |
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| 23:39.04 | poorrick | ok, so xrandr doesn't change the size of my screen for this one resolution. it just kinda like zooms in |
| 23:39.06 | nkuttler | and not pasting the relevant info.. |
| 23:39.17 | moof2 | also the build instructions for whatever else you're building might have something to say about what are the autotools you have to run to get that thing built |
| 23:39.37 | factor | done |
| 23:39.58 | factor | looks like I just had to run autoreconf in one of the directories , I am good to go |
| 23:40.24 | moof2 | hope so. good luck |
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| 23:40.29 | nkuttler | that's so weird.. |
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| 23:41.17 | moof2 | nkuttler, yeah, doesn't look like we're going to be passed that info |
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| 23:43.26 | nuke_ | hey guys, I just finished setting up an ircd (mainly for learning purposes). will you be able to help me to take it for a spin and see how it performs? server: irc.thecubenetwork.net, SSL only ports 6679, 6697, 9999 |
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| 23:43.45 | nuke_ | any feedback welcome! |
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| 23:43.46 | nuke_ | :) |
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| 23:45.16 | moof2 | nuke_ (I would think they're busy now, and for awhile... and) maybe the folks on #freenode might be available to help if someone's free |
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| 23:45.51 | nuke_ | thanks moof2... I'll post a msg there :) |
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| 23:46.34 | moof2 | and depending on which ircd you're using, they might have additional info |
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