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| 00:04.19 | Luke-Jr | What saves/resotres volume in Debian 7? :/ |
| 00:04.24 | elkingrey | I can't seem to figure out how to download and save a youtube video. |
| 00:04.27 | elkingrey | Anybody know? |
| 00:05.31 | cast | youtube-dl |
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| 00:09.31 | lograte2 | elkingrey: I have used a program called "clive" that runs from the command line |
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| 00:11.20 | moof2 | , v youtube-dl |
| 00:11.21 | judd | Package: youtube-dl on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 2012.01.05-2~bpo60+1; jessie: 2012.09.27+dfsg1-1; sid: 2013.07.02-1 |
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| 00:12.33 | moof2 | , v clive |
| 00:12.34 | judd | Package: clive on i386 -- squeeze: 2.2.13-5+squeeze5; squeeze-updates: 2.2.13-5+squeeze5; jessie: 2.3.3-2; sid: 2.3.3-2; wheezy: 2.3.3-2 |
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| 00:25.57 | khronosschoty | hey, can anyone be kind enough to share good link on how to upgrade to wheezy |
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| 00:26.25 | khronosschoty | from debian 6 |
| 00:26.53 | dvs | !tell khronosschoty about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 00:28.27 | khronosschoty | thanks |
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| 00:39.49 | khronosschoty | I was wondering if anyone knows how to not boot the debian installation media, if it has to be booted, and I cannot eject it. want to instead boot my already installed debian system. I looked but could not find out how for this. |
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| 00:45.35 | elkingrey | lograte2: clive is badass. Thanks a bunch! |
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| 00:46.46 | Cueball | I am trying to get distcc working on my server which is a Debian 32bit OS running on an amd64 chip (HW Upgrade). Would anyone know what else I need to add to the Debian box to get it to compile 64bit code for my amd64 Gentoo? |
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| 00:50.55 | khronosschoty | Anyone I cannot find anything about it. IF I boot the debian cd, can I give a command to just boot my installed os instead of the CD? |
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| 00:51.51 | moof2 | khronosschoty, that's called a rescue, and should be: yes |
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| 00:52.20 | moof2 | let me see what you said first... |
| 00:52.28 | khronosschoty | thanks |
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| 00:52.56 | elkingrey | My VLC client is having difficulty playing .webm media. Any ideas why? |
| 00:53.12 | moof2 | ok, what is the install media? an actual cdrom? |
| 00:53.25 | elkingrey | I used clive |
| 00:53.33 | khronosschoty | its vps |
| 00:53.43 | khronosschoty | so I do not think its actual cd but may as well be |
| 00:54.25 | schreber | does VLC even support WebM ? |
| 00:54.28 | moof2 | ok, so there is a media somehow somewhere, which is booting instead of the os that should boot... |
| 00:54.54 | khronosschoty | yes when I reboot the system. I want to upgrade to wheezy and that requires reboot |
| 00:56.54 | khronosschoty | So when I reboot, I will reboot into the install medium. I think its cdrom or cdrom img that is working like a cdrom |
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| 00:57.33 | khronosschoty | I want to, however, reboot into my newly upgraded system |
| 00:57.35 | elkingrey | schreber: It does in one of my machines, but not the other. |
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| 00:59.42 | schreber | do you get a specific error or does it simply not play ? |
| 01:00.24 | elkingrey | schreber: It looks like it wants to start, takes me to the first frame, but then stops. |
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| 01:01.04 | schreber | I assume you've tried it on another machine, yes ? |
| 01:01.17 | elkingrey | Yep, it works fine on a second machine |
| 01:01.38 | elkingrey | schreber: I'm wondering if there is a vlc plugin or package I'm missing. |
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| 01:03.29 | schreber | just looking at vlc's website says that it plays most codecs w/o additional codec packages, so I have to wonder if either it might be you're running an older version of vlc or if there is in fact a codec being used that vlc doesn't support |
| 01:04.50 | moof2 | [nas]peter. do a pvscan and then try the vgchange again |
| 01:04.54 | smw | schreber, vlc certainly supports webm. It has always supported matroska and vorbis and they implemented VP8 |
| 01:05.24 | smw | elkingrey, does the webm file play in other players? |
| 01:05.33 | elkingrey | let me try |
| 01:06.01 | schreber | not suggesting they don't but peole have a way of encoding things that cause issues if your video play [and codecs] aren't just right |
| 01:06.03 | moof2 | can you convert the webm to flv or mpeg4? |
| 01:06.39 | smw | schreber, yeah, this is very true |
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| 01:07.16 | elkingrey | Hmmm, I just tried in movie player, and it played, but very poorly. Terrible picture and sound. I'm wondering if my comp just isn't cut out for it. It's an older 32 bit netbook. |
| 01:07.29 | smw | moof2, the question is why it is failing, flv and mpeg4 are replacements for the container and it is a pretty safe bet that vlc can play it since webm uses a subset of matroska. |
| 01:08.45 | smw | elkingrey, what version of vlc. Looks like it was implemented in 1.1 |
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| 01:09.14 | elkingrey | the deb version in stable wheezy |
| 01:09.32 | smw | elkingrey, 2.0.3-5 |
| 01:09.55 | elkingrey | Okay, it's the comp. It's not even playing youtube vids very well at all. |
| 01:10.06 | smw | cool |
| 01:10.07 | elkingrey | It's just not cut out for this sort of thing, I guess. |
| 01:10.13 | smw | shrugs |
| 01:10.21 | elkingrey | Thanks for the help anyways! |
| 01:12.36 | moof2 | smw, well I'm wondering, if he can get some form of the youtube video, and then he can convert it, would he have a convenient player that can either play the original or converted form |
| 01:12.49 | moof2 | youknow, so he could use this thing:) |
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| 01:13.21 | smw | moof2, not sure I understand |
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| 01:13.25 | moof2 | elkingrey, I actually remember that you were asking about this last week |
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| 01:14.35 | moof2 | smw, ok... so, in the beginning was the youtube video... I want to have a copy of it... so I use something (clive?)to download it... |
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| 01:15.17 | moof2 | now I want to try it out... will this work for me... so I try vlc on one machine... works! try it on another... hmm, fail. |
| 01:15.52 | smw | moof2, that is odd |
| 01:16.02 | smw | moof2, so it only worked in vlc on one computer? |
| 01:16.25 | moof2 | so I have at least a coupla threads I can chase... I can find out what's different about the VLCs, and I can try converting to another form to see if the second vlc works |
| 01:16.41 | moof2 | smw, that's what elkinggray was saying |
| 01:16.52 | moof2 | I know I got his name wrong |
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| 01:54.44 | Miesco | If im using /etc/network/interfaces, what do I use to start them? |
| 01:54.55 | Miesco | /etc/init.d/networking says its deprecated |
| 01:55.29 | phy1729 | reload not restart iirc |
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| 01:59.36 | Miesco | okay |
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| 02:00.38 | Miesco | How do I tell if its my network card or my configuration thats not working? |
| 02:02.10 | Miesco | When I do ifup wlan0 I get: |
| 02:02.23 | Miesco | wpa_supplicant: /sbin/wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start |
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| 02:10.10 | Miesco | wait maybe its cause wicd had the daemon running |
| 02:10.16 | Miesco | I stopped the deamon and didn't get those errors |
| 02:10.48 | Miesco | ah works :D |
| 02:11.04 | Miesco | How do I stop wicd from running automatically? |
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| 02:31.31 | abrotman | Miesco: check /etc/rc2.d/ and friends |
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| 02:40.52 | agilevic | how to install bare minimum debian: console only + apt? |
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| 02:41.34 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: Do a netinstall and uncheck everything besides the option that escapes me that has apt |
| 02:42.19 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: You can choose whatever DE to run the installer under (you choose when it boots) since it won't be installed anyway. |
| 02:42.46 | agilevic | KatsumeBlisk: DE? |
| 02:42.55 | agilevic | desktop env |
| 02:42.58 | agilevic | got it |
| 02:43.13 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: desktop environment. When you first boot a netinstall disc, it'll ask you which one you want to install. It doesn't matter what you pick since it won't be installed anyway. |
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| 02:45.20 | agilevic | KatsumeBlisk: ok, now downloading small CD image |
| 02:45.34 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: Have you used Debian before? |
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| 02:45.46 | agilevic | KatsumeBlisk: yes |
| 02:45.51 | twinkie_addict | hi |
| 02:45.58 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: Just making sure because that'll make this process a lot easier. ;) |
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| 02:46.23 | agilevic | KatsumeBlisk: I will be doing this in a VirtualBox and hoping to end up with a machine less than 200MB in size |
| 02:46.55 | twinkie_addict | installed frome a testing snapshot and am running jessie not bad |
| 02:46.55 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: I don't see why you wouldn't be able to when full GUI environments fit on 700MB |
| 02:47.15 | agilevic | KatsumeBlisk: that's OK, I need it for server purposes |
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| 03:18.07 | agilevic | KatsumeBlisk: I chose Expert install (could not find netinstall) at boot but somehow it pulled in x11 librariries... not sure if should start over |
| 03:18.20 | cafuego | No |
| 03:18.29 | cafuego | *some* X libraries are likely required |
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| 03:18.59 | cafuego | You can alway try to remove the library package you don't want and see what else will get removed. |
| 03:19.14 | agilevic | cafuego: thanks |
| 03:19.24 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: netinstall is the type of iso |
| 03:19.36 | KatsumeBlisk | if you go to debian's download page, there's a netinstall section |
| 03:19.54 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: it's a tiny iso that gets packages over the internet instead of from the disc |
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| 03:20.34 | agilevic | KatsumeBlisk: I got the 280 CD image |
| 03:20.40 | agilevic | 280MB |
| 03:21.03 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: does it have netinst in the file name? |
| 03:21.20 | cafuego | 280MB sounds about right for that |
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| 03:21.28 | agilevic | KatsumeBlisk: yes, debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso |
| 03:21.29 | cafuego | The business card one is teeny |
| 03:21.40 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: That's what you want. Just do a normal install with that. |
| 03:21.57 | KatsumeBlisk | and uncheck the desktop environment option when it gives you it about halfway through the install. |
| 03:22.03 | KatsumeBlisk | You can't miss it. |
| 03:23.03 | agilevic | KatsumeBlisk: I did uncheck it. Still it pull in some stuff that I won't need like mutt |
| 03:23.14 | agilevic | small but sitll, a lot of small stuff can take up space |
| 03:23.34 | agilevic | maybe I should have unchecked Standard system utitlities too |
| 03:23.40 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: I'm not sure. I haven't done a Debian install in a while. Actually going to hcange that in a couple hours. |
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| 03:23.49 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: if I recall, system utils includes apt. |
| 03:24.38 | cafuego | openssh-client probably pulled inxauth via its Recommends section and xauth wants some basic X11 client libs. |
| 03:24.58 | cafuego | Is there a particular reason you definitely don't want them? |
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| 03:28.59 | agilevic | KatsumeBlisk: ok, got the new system up, used 890MB |
| 03:29.02 | agilevic | :( |
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| 03:29.23 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: That's insane for something without a DE |
| 03:29.34 | cafuego | agilevic: Are you checking that via `df' as root or as user? |
| 03:29.36 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: Why does it need to be under 200MB? |
| 03:30.02 | agilevic | KatsumeBlisk: I want to make a demo for download |
| 03:30.24 | KatsumeBlisk | agilevic: Sounds like a cool idea. |
| 03:30.25 | abrotman | demo of what? |
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| 03:31.17 | agilevic | abrotman: a web service application. it has number of dependencies and I want to make it easy for people to try. just download a virtuabbox machine, and launch it |
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| 03:31.40 | abrotman | okay, so why unjder 200MB? |
| 03:31.44 | cafuego | So how are you checking how much disk space was used? |
| 03:31.51 | ssbr[irssi] | Is there a command-line program I can use to put files to a pastebin, that isn't pastebinit? |
| 03:32.00 | agilevic | cafeugo: df |
| 03:32.06 | cafuego | agilevic: as root? |
| 03:32.10 | abrotman | ssbr[irssi]: pastebinit |
| 03:32.15 | ssbr[irssi] | abrotman: Doesn't work. |
| 03:32.19 | abrotman | ssbr[irssi]: read the man page |
| 03:32.23 | ssbr[irssi] | abrotman: I did. |
| 03:32.24 | cafuego | ssbr[irssi]: give it a pay rise |
| 03:32.30 | abrotman | ssbr[irssi]: okay |
| 03:32.36 | ssbr[irssi] | abrotman: specifically, pastebinit < /var/log/syslog gives me "http://paste.debian.net" |
| 03:32.39 | agilevic | cafeugo: yes, but that should not matter |
| 03:32.41 | ssbr[irssi] | which obviously isn't the URL of a paste. |
| 03:32.46 | cafuego | agilevic: it does. |
| 03:32.49 | abrotman | ssbr[irssi]: you were given the correct answer, read the man page |
| 03:32.54 | cafuego | agilevic: Depending on the filesystem. |
| 03:33.19 | agilevic | cafuego: got the same result. install is dead simple all on one partititon |
| 03:33.20 | cafuego | agilevic: ext? reserves space and that's shown as "used" if you run `df' as user. |
| 03:33.26 | ssbr[irssi] | abrotman: yes, it doesn't work on long input |
| 03:33.34 | ssbr[irssi] | abrotman: pastebinit doesn't work for this. What do I use instead? |
| 03:33.40 | ssbr[irssi] | The man page doesn't help me here. |
| 03:33.42 | cafuego | agilevic: There's also space allocated to the journal on ext[34] |
| 03:33.54 | anonnumberanon | cafuego please stop writing in red it makes my whole system go haywire |
| 03:34.01 | marienz | I suspect ssbr is hitting http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=679650 |
| 03:34.04 | agilevic | cafuego: ext4 |
| 03:34.05 | cafuego | anonnumberanon: no |
| 03:34.16 | marienz | (very long or very short input silently fails) |
| 03:34.20 | agilevic | cafuego: I installed LVM too |
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| 03:34.50 | cafuego | agilevic: Is LVM part of what you're demoing? |
| 03:35.19 | agilevic | cafuego: no, probably useless but I was hoping it may be easier to resize disk later |
| 03:35.19 | ssbr[irssi] | abrotman: OK, thanks for your "help" |
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| 03:35.36 | marienz | abrotman: are you sure the above problem is covered in the manpage? I do not see it mentioned in the wheezy version of it, and "echo 'great success' | pastebinit" fails the same way ssbr's does. |
| 03:35.46 | cafuego | agilevic: is that structly necessary for a downloadable demo? |
| 03:36.00 | cafuego | agilevic: I'd probably run a simple single partition for that |
| 03:36.03 | agilevic | cafuego: what, LVM, no? |
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| 03:36.29 | agilevic | cafuego: I don't think LVM contributed much to size |
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| 03:36.52 | agilevic | so how do I slim that beast |
| 03:37.05 | cafuego | agilevic: I don't think so either, but if you want to make it as small as possible really it shouldn't be on there. |
| 03:39.36 | agilevic | cafuego: aptitude shows 360 packages |
| 03:39.40 | agilevic | installed |
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| 03:40.53 | cafuego | aptitude show '~n.*' | awk '/^Package:/ {p = $0} /^State:/ {s = $0} /^Uncompressed Size:/ {print p " " s " " $0}' | grep 'State: installed' | sed 's/: /:/g' | sort -t: -n -k4 |
| 03:41.37 | cafuego | That's rhe installed size (in ascending order) of all installed packages. |
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| 03:49.39 | agilevic | cafuego: nice one-liner |
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| 03:51.08 | agilevic | cafuego: xfonts-base 8.5MB and who asked for that? |
| 03:52.50 | khronosschoty | #kushout |
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| 03:59.03 | owen1 | i can't access any website except for google related sites (and irc). any idea what's going on? |
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| 04:01.57 | LSD | hello, how would I install debian wheezy on an old 486 (non pae) processor? |
| 04:02.05 | agilevic | laptop-detect 20.5MB. there should be a better way to end up with a small system |
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| 04:06.43 | cafuego | owen1: Give the NSA a call |
| 04:06.53 | owen1 | cafuego: ahahah |
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| 04:07.18 | owen1 | waiting for guys with suites to knock on my door |
| 04:07.48 | owen1 | it's only from my debian laptop. from mac it's fine |
| 04:07.57 | owen1 | maybe dns related? |
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| 04:08.39 | cafuego | do they have the same dns server settings? |
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| 04:12.53 | owen1 | cafuego: where do i check for dns server settings on debian? |
| 04:13.05 | cafuego | cat /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 04:35.37 | RootKnight | someone in porto alegre? |
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| 04:46.04 | owen1 | cafuego: resolv.conf shows me domain att.net search att.net nameserver 192.168.1.254 |
| 04:46.17 | owen1 | on the mac, under dns, i see: 8.8.8.8 |
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| 04:48.04 | owen1 | boudiccas: rm <file> |
| 04:48.09 | boudiccas | thanks |
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| 04:57.19 | owen1 | cafuego: is this information helpful? |
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| 04:57.59 | benignbala | I am on Jessie, if that makes a difference. |
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| 05:54.31 | swampdragon | I've recently run into an issue on Debian Wheezy where most processes seem to be getting the SIGSTOP signal. Seems to occur after trying to start gparted or htop in a menu, only in a menu. |
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| 07:50.44 | marcusk | Well said |
| 07:50.46 | wolfez | 4 |
| 07:51.03 | wolfez | marcusk: TH++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 07:51.08 | wolfez | ho |
| 07:51.12 | wolfez | Sorry |
| 07:51.20 | wolfez | marcusk: **thanks :P |
| 07:51.26 | marcusk | :-) |
| 07:53.08 | wolfez | ;-P |
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| 07:53.29 | tester | whats a program to use for burning dvd |
| 07:54.00 | wolfez | tester: The burnadvdprogramm ;-) |
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| 07:54.41 | wolfez | tester: I'm using brasero. |
| 07:54.45 | moof2 | does wheezy kde have a sound server thing? |
| 07:54.57 | wolfez | marcusk: ulse audio? |
| 07:54.58 | moof2 | I may need to configure it |
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| 07:56.05 | wolfez | marcusk: maybe yes. |
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| 08:00.09 | F-3000 | Hi! Could someone help me with deleting desktop session? I wanted to have the apps saved over one reboot, but they're starting up again. I tried google already, but it didn't provide anything useful. |
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| 08:02.49 | musca | F-3000: which desktop environment? |
| 08:03.03 | F-3000 | musca: Gnome. |
| 08:03.12 | musca | Uh, I'm out :) |
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| 08:03.54 | F-3000 | musca: How you'd do it with something you know? Maybe I could pick up hints from that? |
| 08:04.23 | F-3000 | Oh, and I'm (still) using 6.0.7 stable. |
| 08:05.08 | moof2 | I'm using kde and I need to edit the settings of its sound server... is it artsd? something else? |
| 08:05.09 | musca | I would enable the session saving feature and do a clean logout with no apps running. |
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| 08:07.11 | musca | moof2: it's kde - it has a settings dialog. |
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| 08:08.58 | F-3000 | musca: I was thinking of that too, but it felt too simple. :D |
| 08:09.19 | moof2 | and it looks like what I'm wanting to edit is not present (yes, wouldn't have posted if I didn't try that) |
| 08:09.45 | moof2 | musca, do you run kde? |
| 08:09.57 | musca | moof2: yes |
| 08:10.10 | jdoles | Is there some kind of standard software to maintain a complete software project including mailing lists (-announce, -users, etc.), etc.? |
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| 08:10.39 | moof2 | ok, I was wondering if you could look at your dialog and see if there are sound server settings (or if kde even uses a sound server) |
| 08:11.36 | cwillu_at_work | jdoles, launchpad comes to mind, although I've never set up my own instance of the software |
| 08:11.36 | moof2 | tried dpkg-recionfigure artsd, didn't do anything except say that the package artsd is not installed and no info is available |
| 08:12.24 | musca | moof2: sounds like a blind shot :) |
| 08:12.36 | cwillu_at_work | https://dev.launchpad.net/Running |
| 08:12.39 | jdoles | cwillu_at_work: I think I asked the wrong question; I actually only care about the mailing lists. |
| 08:12.47 | moof2 | musca, probably |
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| 08:12.53 | jdoles | cwillu_at_work: and when making a release that messages are sent to this mailing list. |
| 08:12.59 | musca | moof2: I'm using phonon with gstreamer backend |
| 08:13.14 | cwillu_at_work | jdoles, sounds like you just want a mailing list then |
| 08:13.20 | moof2 | I saw phonon somewhere... what is that? |
| 08:13.36 | jdoles | cwillu_at_work: the integration of making a release and a mailing list. |
| 08:13.45 | jdoles | cwillu_at_work: but perhaps everyone just handrolls those. |
| 08:13.59 | cwillu_at_work | tends to be specific to the project |
| 08:14.11 | musca | moof2: it's the kde thingy for sound |
| 08:14.15 | cwillu_at_work | to the extent it isn't, it's likely because they're already using something like launchpad to manage everything else |
| 08:14.22 | moof2 | jdoles, why not use something that already integrates those things, sourceforge and github come to mind |
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| 08:15.40 | jdoles | moof2: mostly the problem with sourceforge is that everything they give you they can also take away at any point in time. |
| 08:16.49 | moof2 | jdoles, you'd think they'd be careful about that in the cases of a forum with actual posting data, or a sourcecode repo |
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| 08:17.31 | jdoles | moof2: well, can you can export all forum data easily from Sourceforge? |
| 08:18.02 | jdoles | Note that this does not include any data from CVS, Project Web, Project Downloads, Forums, or Mailing Lists. This is purely data in the web application which includes: |
| 08:18.09 | moof2 | dunno... that would be a good feature |
| 08:18.26 | jdoles | moof2: the problem is that it wouldn't be a good feature for them. |
| 08:18.34 | jdoles | moof2: that's why the feature isn't there. |
| 08:18.45 | moof2 | why wouldn't it be? |
| 08:18.48 | jdoles | moof2: sourceforge wants eyeballs. |
| 08:19.18 | jdoles | moof2: if a succesful product generates lots of views on its forums, that's just money in the bank. |
| 08:19.38 | jdoles | moof2: so, even after the project has been moved, people will still see the old data. |
| 08:19.43 | jdoles | moof2: it's called a business model. |
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| 08:20.38 | jdoles | moof2: actually, they do provide such methods. |
| 08:21.06 | jdoles | moof2: but perhaps they do it in hard to use formats making everyone think twice about actually moving. |
| 08:21.45 | moof2 | for the same thing only the source control, they couldn't control that (especially if it's git... clone, goodbye sf, done) |
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| 08:22.25 | moof2 | I kinda like sourceforge... I have a little project they've tolerated for years |
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| 08:23.38 | moof2 | doesn't give them eyeballs that I know of, it's dead right now, once years ago they wanted to remove it but I said "nonono!" and so they kept it |
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| 08:25.15 | moof2 | it's still on cvs... I want to move it to a git repo there and eventually do something with it |
| 08:25.47 | moof2 | so what you want is what, a standealone app that does all that stuff? |
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| 08:26.12 | moof2 | one thing I hear is you don't want anyone controlling what you can and can't have |
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| 08:29.44 | Technodrome | what is the name of the kernel package in debian? |
| 08:30.07 | moof2 | linux-image and linux-image-* |
| 08:30.27 | moof2 | you can apt-cache search linux-image |
| 08:32.10 | Technodrome | moof2: i was using centos, but man, i just don't have the time right now , the LXC stuff on centos is barebones |
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| 08:33.34 | moof2 | not quite understanding... actually, could you say more about what you're interested in doing or having? |
| 08:37.34 | Technodrome | moof2: where is the menu.lst file ? :) |
| 08:37.38 | Technodrome | by default in debian |
| 08:38.28 | mumpitzel | Technodrome: there is none. grub2 doesn't use it anymore, on any distro. |
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| 08:38.44 | mumpitzel | and you should not edit your grub.cfg manually anymore. look e.g. at /etc/default/grub |
| 08:38.53 | Technodrome | hmmm |
| 08:38.57 | Technodrome | i need pv-grub though |
| 08:39.01 | moof2 | oh, menu.lst is for legacy grub |
| 08:39.13 | mumpitzel | pv for LVM? |
| 08:39.30 | Technodrome | for my VPS provider |
| 08:39.33 | F-3000 | musca: I think I found where the session is stored. Or at least the apps it's supposed to start. They're .desktop bookmarks in /home/user/.config/gnome-session/saved-session/. I'll trash those, and hope that my next boot goes well. :D |
| 08:39.35 | Technodrome | my vps provider uses pv-grub |
| 08:39.43 | Technodrome | i need to set my menu.lst file |
| 08:39.55 | moof2 | and what's current now is grub 2 (actually 1,9999something) |
| 08:40.00 | mumpitzel | if you use a legacy grub it's in /boot/grub/menu.lst as always |
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| 08:40.26 | Technodrome | how do i *use* grub legacy, i have both packages installed |
| 08:40.29 | Technodrome | but i don't see the file there |
| 08:40.44 | musca | F-3000: sounds good, thx |
| 08:40.57 | mumpitzel | you cannot have both. either or |
| 08:41.14 | F-3000 | mumpitzel: I've always edited grup.cfg manually in my multi-iso usb-stick. :) |
| 08:41.34 | mumpitzel | F-3000: I just use yumi. much easier |
| 08:41.48 | mumpitzel | and normally, no usb stick with a live distro ever uses grub |
| 08:41.52 | moof2 | you can have the packages installed... you can do the grub install in various ways... and, this is a mess looking for a messy person |
| 08:41.57 | Technodrome | mumpitzel: ok i just want legacy, how do i just get legacy on here |
| 08:42.18 | mumpitzel | uninstall the others install legacy only. run grub-install from your legacy one |
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| 08:42.29 | F-3000 | mumpitzel: If you want to have multiple ISOs on a single stick, you need a bootloader. |
| 08:42.36 | moof2 | you'd have to install that grub somewhere |
| 08:42.56 | mumpitzel | F-3000: you always need a bootloader with a single ISO on it. that's why everyone uses syslinux for that |
| 08:43.41 | F-3000 | mumpitzel: Why single only? Isnt that a waste of stick? |
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| 08:44.20 | mumpitzel | no. you need a bootloader if you have one or one hundred isos on it. if you want to boot, you need a bootloader duh! |
| 08:44.27 | Technodrome | this is so annoying |
| 08:44.30 | Technodrome | hmm |
| 08:44.49 | mumpitzel | and it's pretty much always syslinux for ISOs/live cds. If you actually install your linux normally onto the usb stick, then grub is usually used, yes |
| 08:44.56 | mumpitzel | different bootloaders for different jobs |
| 08:45.02 | Technodrome | Searching for GRUB installation directory ... /usr/sbin/grub-set-default: 89: /usr/sbin/grub-set-default: abort: not found |
| 08:45.34 | F-3000 | mumpitzel: I use grub2. |
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| 08:45.47 | mumpitzel | Technodrome: what command did you run and what was its full output? |
| 08:45.57 | Technodrome | grub-set-default 1 |
| 08:45.57 | Technodrome | Searching for GRUB installation directory ... /usr/sbin/grub-set-default: 89: /usr/sbin/grub-set-default: abort: not found |
| 08:46.41 | mumpitzel | did you install grub actually (not install the grub-legacy package but actually install grub)? |
| 08:46.59 | Technodrome | grub-legacy is what i installed |
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| 08:47.19 | mumpitzel | yes. and you did not install grub I'd say |
| 08:47.37 | mumpitzel | grub is a bootloader which you MUST install via grub-install. the grub debian package means nothing |
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| 08:48.06 | Technodrome | i'm not sure which drive to install it to |
| 08:48.07 | mumpitzel | after that you run os-prober and/or update-grub so you actually have a menu.lst created |
| 08:48.07 | moof2 | by way of explanation, the grub package provides ways of getting the grub -loader- on your media |
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| 08:48.49 | F-3000 | moof2: I was about to say something very similar. :) |
| 08:48.49 | mumpitzel | where to install it to obviously depends on your system setup, BIOS, partitions,e tc |
| 08:48.58 | brianbep | petn-randall, I compiled, installed and booted into the 3.10 kernel and I'm having the same issues with suspend. See updated gist: https://gist.github.com/bbuchalter/5934099 |
| 08:49.04 | Technodrome | yes i know mumpitzel |
| 08:49.14 | Technodrome | this is a vps, so the xen setup of the guest is a bit different |
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| 08:50.25 | moof2 | maybe you don't need grub for that? |
| 08:50.25 | mumpitzel | where was your grub installed before? |
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| 08:50.44 | moof2 | well clarifying, |
| 08:50.51 | moof2 | you need it for the dom0 |
| 08:50.58 | moof2 | or some kind of loader |
| 08:51.09 | Technodrome | the pv-grub is just going to read the /boot/grub/menu.lst file |
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| 08:51.13 | Technodrome | its not going to truly run grub |
| 08:51.20 | moof2 | but for the domUs, you'd write a script to start them |
| 08:51.46 | mumpitzel | Technodrome: so run grub-install in your VM for your VM "partition" |
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| 08:51.57 | mumpitzel | and run update-grub |
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| 08:52.37 | Technodrome | i don't know the drive hehehe |
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| 08:52.52 | monod | hello |
| 08:53.03 | Remilia | any idea why mlocate does not install /etc/cron.daily/mlocate despite the file being listed in dpkg -s output under Conffiles? |
| 08:53.14 | Remilia | wheezy amd64 here |
| 08:53.21 | Technodrome | is there a program i can easily take a look at partitions already setup here? |
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| 08:53.32 | Technodrome | i used to use it all the time, i forget its name |
| 08:53.44 | digdilem | cfdisk? or fdisk -l |
| 08:54.32 | blubberdiblub | Remilia, did you have mlocate installed previously and removed the file manually and now you're trying to upgrade/reinstall it? |
| 08:54.32 | monod | I've just finished backupping my stuff and put it into an external hard drive.. but I was wondering: wouldn't it be a good idea to convert folders into .tar archives? so that if I have to move entire folders back and forth, it would be faster to do so? |
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| 08:55.17 | Technodrome | yeah those wont' work on this VM |
| 08:55.19 | Technodrome | damnnit! |
| 08:55.31 | digdilem | wy not? |
| 08:55.37 | digdilem | or are you not root? |
| 08:55.42 | sml | Technodrome, you will be root |
| 08:55.43 | Remilia | blubberdiblub: no, all I ever did was dist-upgrade |
| 08:55.48 | Technodrome | i am root |
| 08:55.55 | well_laid_lawn | try df -h |
| 08:55.57 | Technodrome | invalid partition table |
| 08:55.59 | Remilia | I also tried to apt-get remove and then install mlocate again |
| 08:56.11 | digdilem | oh, might be gpt if it's a big drive |
| 08:56.15 | F-3000 | Technodrome: that sounds bad. |
| 08:56.16 | Technodrome | rootfs 24G 738M 22G 4% / |
| 08:56.27 | blubberdiblub | Remilia, hmm, that's strange. anyway, try what dpkg has to say about confmiss |
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| 08:56.30 | digdilem | fdisk wo n't work with gpt |
| 08:56.35 | blubberdiblub | !tell Remilia about confmiss |
| 08:56.42 | Technodrome | its a default vps xen partition scheme i'm guessing |
| 08:57.04 | Technodrome | i just need my grub menu.lst , i don't think it even need anything else :) |
| 08:57.41 | digdilem | debian doesn't know it's xen btw, it should just appear as bare metal to it |
| 08:58.02 | monod | okay, reading the 'rationale' section on wikipedia.com/tar it does seem a good idea to do so ^ |
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| 08:58.15 | monod | the question now falls into deciding the block size |
| 08:58.22 | Remilia | blubberdiblub, many thanks, I guess dist-upgrade is the culprit since it also killed cron and some other stuffs (I've only started using Debian on my server this June after moving from a BSD-powered colo to an openvz VPS) |
| 08:58.27 | digdilem | monod, if xfer is the bottleneck then yes, transferring a few big files is often far faster than many small files |
| 08:58.45 | monod | xfer? |
| 08:58.47 | Remilia | the solution offered helped, I have the file installed now |
| 08:58.49 | digdilem | monod, transfer |
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| 08:59.00 | Technodrome | blah , i have a headache now :) |
| 08:59.03 | digdilem | monod, have you tried backuppc or any of the other already-made backup solutions? |
| 08:59.18 | monod | nope |
| 08:59.21 | monod | digdilem^ |
| 08:59.54 | digdilem | i love backuppc, i use it for 1 or 2 machines right up to 80-pc mixed os systems |
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| 09:00.16 | Technodrome | blah , my goodness, i just got an email from my boss saying it has to be either CentOS or Ubuntu, debian is not allowed |
| 09:00.18 | Technodrome | just my luck |
| 09:00.28 | monod | digdilem: do you also know if tar archives these days have "decent" block size? |
| 09:01.40 | F-3000 | Technodrome: Why debian is not allowed? Just curious to know, if there's explanation included. :) |
| 09:01.53 | Technodrome | the support guys only support those 2 i guess |
| 09:01.57 | Technodrome | so stupid |
| 09:02.07 | Technodrome | i'm not a linux admin, just a programmer |
| 09:02.29 | monod | checking backuppc features... |
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| 09:03.08 | F-3000 | Technodrome: Be happy they're not Windows-orientated. :D |
| 09:03.28 | Technodrome | i'm getting ready to quit this job honestly |
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| 09:06.16 | monod | oriented* I think |
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| 09:06.35 | daniel-s_ | hi |
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| 09:06.49 | monod | oh, it's just the same |
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| 09:15.58 | Technodrome | i'm just about to call it a night |
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| 09:16.09 | Technodrome | or say fuck this trying to boot my own kernel on xen |
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| 09:34.49 | digdilem | monod, I don't, no. |
| 09:35.36 | digdilem | monod, backup-manager is another good one, which creates monolithic archives. backuppc is more for images. (sorry, went afk for a bit) |
| 09:36.54 | digdilem | both will take care of max_number_of_archives |
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| 09:43.25 | no_gravity | Hello! Is there an easy way to play chess against a strong engine under debian? Will "apt-get install stockfish" result in a playable program? |
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| 09:45.51 | LordBrain | gnuchess is too weak? |
| 09:46.05 | no_gravity | LordBrain: i have no idea. i only played online chess so far. |
| 09:46.20 | no_gravity | LordBrain: would "apt-get install gnuchess" let me play chess on my machine? |
| 09:47.02 | LordBrain | in gnome-games, or mate-games there is a chess program, it uses gnuchess as the back end |
| 09:47.39 | no_gravity | LordBrain: "apt-get install gnome-games"? |
| 09:47.40 | LordBrain | you could install guchess like that, but it's commandline |
| 09:47.58 | no_gravity | LordBrain: i would prefer graphical and i would like to experiment with stockfish. |
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| 09:48.12 | no_gravity | xboard ist often mentioned on the net. |
| 09:48.17 | no_gravity | maybe i should install that. |
| 09:48.20 | LordBrain | xboard uses gnuchess too |
| 09:48.54 | no_gravity | lets try it... |
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| 09:49.17 | LordBrain | its graphics harken back to pre gtk days, at least last i tried it |
| 09:49.49 | no_gravity | hmm.. "apt-get install xboard" worked and created an entry in "games" in the main menu. but clicking it - nothing happens. |
| 09:49.52 | LordBrain | nvm, i just installed it, looks good |
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| 09:50.30 | LordBrain | really? |
| 09:50.52 | LordBrain | go to the prompt and run "xboard" |
| 09:50.56 | no_gravity | starting it from the command line it complains about missing fonts. this is a mint machine i have to say. |
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| 09:51.40 | LordBrain | ok, well i guess you need some font package that should have been listed as a dependency |
| 09:51.52 | LordBrain | does it say which fonts you are missing? |
| 09:52.12 | no_gravity | yes, xfonts-75dpi .. .installing it right now... |
| 09:52.39 | no_gravity | looks like theres a bug for it: http://bugs.debian.org/504077 |
| 09:52.58 | no_gravity | installed the font.. it still doesnt start. |
| 09:53.01 | jdoles | no_gravity: what's your ELO? |
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| 09:53.44 | no_gravity | jdoles: around 1200 for blitz |
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| 09:54.46 | no_gravity | looks like i have too look for some other interface. no idea how to make xboard start. |
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| 09:54.59 | LordBrain | they closed the bug without fixing because you can run xboard over ssh without the fonts installed |
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| 09:55.21 | no_gravity | or maybe i have to restart my machine after installing the fonts? |
| 09:55.31 | LordBrain | you could give up on xboard and install gnome-games |
| 09:55.35 | LordBrain | heh |
| 09:56.04 | no_gravity | LordBrain: how do i run xboard over ssh? |
| 09:56.08 | LordBrain | there's probably a kde version too |
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| 09:57.33 | LordBrain | no_gravity, I guess you log in to some other box and then use ssh -X your box, and run xboard |
| 09:57.48 | LordBrain | not what you want i dont think |
| 09:58.13 | no_gravity | im restarting this box... lets see if xboard comes up afterwards... |
| 09:58.18 | no_gravity | thanks for all the input! |
| 09:58.21 | LordBrain | that wont help... |
| 09:58.25 | LordBrain | oh well |
| 09:58.44 | LordBrain | installing the fonts should workt ho |
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| 10:00.04 | no_gravity | It worked! |
| 10:00.08 | no_gravity | xboard is running now. |
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| 10:00.18 | LordBrain | really? |
| 10:00.22 | no_gravity | LordBrain: yeah |
| 10:00.26 | no_gravity | looks quite archaic :) |
| 10:00.35 | LordBrain | i wouldn't expect a restart to change much |
| 10:00.46 | LordBrain | maybe you had to restart the xserver or something |
| 10:00.54 | no_gravity | maybe |
| 10:01.04 | no_gravity | now how do i make sure it plays as strong as possible? |
| 10:01.10 | LordBrain | i thought it was kinda neat looking |
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| 10:01.24 | no_gravity | LordBrain: the pieces arnt anti-aliased |
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| 10:01.36 | no_gravity | LordBrain: the menu behaves not like a normal gnome menu |
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| 10:01.47 | no_gravity | LordBrain: even the fonts aint anti-aliased |
| 10:01.49 | LordBrain | yeah |
| 10:01.51 | LordBrain | well i warned you |
| 10:01.53 | LordBrain | :) |
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| 10:02.59 | LordBrain | i'm a little surprised that gnome-games doesn't come pre-installed on mint |
| 10:03.22 | LordBrain | i think it did on ubuntu |
| 10:03.30 | no_gravity | LordBrain: maybe it comes. maybe i deleted it. i cant remember |
| 10:04.00 | no_gravity | I want a strong engine because i want to look at games that i give up and see if an engine finds a way to still win them. |
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| 10:05.27 | Technodrome | all of a sudden i can't download a package anymore |
| 10:05.32 | Technodrome | aptitude update doesn't work either |
| 10:05.35 | Technodrome | just sits at 0 percent |
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| 10:06.15 | LordBrain | wow, your system has problems |
| 10:06.18 | LordBrain | heh |
| 10:06.30 | LordBrain | oh |
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| 10:06.42 | LordBrain | sorry two different people got blended |
| 10:07.00 | Technodrome | just to make things more annoying ya know |
| 10:07.08 | Technodrome | i switched kernels but would that have any effete on this? |
| 10:07.16 | Technodrome | i can ping anything i want |
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| 10:08.04 | LordBrain | are you on wheezy? |
| 10:08.31 | student | hi there |
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| 10:15.08 | imdea | One question if my /etc/mtab gets corrupted, could I just delete it? |
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| 10:22.10 | Scorpio_20-za | #flood |
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| 10:24.18 | abrotman | imdea: how would it get corrupted |
| 10:24.29 | imdea | abrotman: a hard reset to the server. |
| 10:24.55 | alexxio | hello, i have a problem, please help me, i know you will do this in 2 seconds!! :D i can't no more use alsamixer as normal user, only root can use it, i get no such file or directory.. normal user is in the audio grp |
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| 10:26.11 | abrotman | imdea: a reboot should clear that file anyway .. it's meant to show current mounts |
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| 10:27.15 | imdea | abrotman, I have removed it. and when I reboot, now I only get / mounted as rw but no other partition :S |
| 10:29.29 | abrotman | removed it or emptied it? |
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| 10:29.53 | imdea | abrotman, removed it. well.. actually what I did was to move it to another directory |
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| 10:30.06 | abrotman | put it back, see what happens |
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| 10:31.04 | imdea | abrotman, but the old one is corrupted. |
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| 10:33.30 | abrotman | imdea: that doesn't answer the question |
| 10:33.47 | imdea | abrotman, wtf? what question? |
| 10:34.14 | abrotman | what happens when you put the file back? |
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| 10:34.44 | imdea | it won't boot properly man, if it is corrupted you can't expect it to boot |
| 10:35.06 | abrotman | so it boots the same way as when the file is missing? |
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| 10:35.19 | abrotman | does the file exist now after booting the last time? |
| 10:35.34 | imdea | abrotman, when the file is missing I see that it generates the file fine, but the root filesystem is in ro |
| 10:35.51 | abrotman | sounds like there's something else wrong |
| 10:35.55 | mumpitzel | what's in your fstab? |
| 10:35.58 | Elirips | [Maybe OT] Are there any partners of debian.org that offer virtual servers running debian you could recommend? |
| 10:36.09 | abrotman | !tell Elirips about hosting |
| 10:36.16 | abrotman | Elirips: no partners though |
| 10:36.22 | Elirips | yes, tell me :D |
| 10:36.26 | imdea | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/14684/ |
| 10:36.28 | abrotman | Elirips: the bot already did |
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| 10:36.53 | Elirips | abrotman: yes, I see. Thank you |
| 10:36.55 | monod | a little fun: http://i.imgur.com/Atd2Ngq.jpg |
| 10:37.00 | abrotman | imdea: what's in /proc/mounts |
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| 10:37.20 | Yaku-noob | hey there, is there an easy tool in the consol to set up a wifi network ? |
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| 10:37.37 | mumpitzel | Yaku-noob: creating your own AP or connecting to an AP? |
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| 10:37.41 | Yaku-noob | i am using wheezy on an arm device |
| 10:37.45 | Yaku-noob | connecting to an ap |
| 10:37.52 | Yaku-noob | i don´t have internet without the wifi |
| 10:38.01 | imdea | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/14685/ |
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| 10:38.10 | mumpitzel | Yaku-noob: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 10:38.28 | abrotman | imdea: / seems to be RW to me |
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| 10:38.41 | abrotman | imdea: oh, you have rootfs and / |
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| 10:38.45 | abrotman | erm .. two / |
| 10:38.51 | roger21 | hey there |
| 10:38.59 | mumpitzel | imdea: do you have a fstab and what's in it? |
| 10:39.01 | imdea | abrotman, er.. no. Look at the 'ro' just next to 'ext3' |
| 10:39.32 | roger21 | so i installed a wheezy and i checked nothing at the tasksel step because i wanted to know what's in there before |
| 10:39.32 | imdea | mumpitzel, http://paste.debian.net/14684 |
| 10:39.42 | babilen | Yaku-noob: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
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| 10:40.15 | roger21 | so i finish the install and run tasksel and now the last entry is missing "basic system tools" or something |
| 10:40.31 | babilen | Yaku-noob: Alternatively wicd has an ncurses client, but I cannot really recommend that anymore. (upstream abandoned wicd some time ago, but a few people resurrected it. Might have changed since then so ask them) |
| 10:40.32 | abrotman | imdea: seems like a possible error on your root filesystem ? |
| 10:40.53 | abrotman | roger21: your sources.list aren't correct, is your network functioning? |
| 10:41.06 | roger21 | no i feel i miss something, what's in there |
| 10:41.32 | abrotman | !tell roger21 about wheezy sources.list |
| 10:41.51 | imdea | abrotman: I don't know...it's a virtual machine, and this is what I get when I boot up: http://paste.debian.net/14686/ |
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| 10:42.56 | abrotman | imdea: what did you do to mess this up like this? :) |
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| 10:43.18 | imdea | abrotman: I told you, the was a hard reset to the server |
| 10:44.14 | daveee123 | quick question. changing the way the day displays in advance settings. debian, gnome3, 7.0.0. and it freezes. i can move my cursor, but nothing else seems to register. any suggestions? |
| 10:44.44 | roger21 | abrotman, my sources.list is correct |
| 10:45.01 | roger21 | abrotman, do you have the last entry in tasksel yourself? |
| 10:45.27 | daveee123 | anybody here? |
| 10:45.39 | abrotman | roger21: the "Standard" thing ? |
| 10:45.44 | mumpitzel | imdea: what is your current runlevel there? is your /etc/inittab looking alright? |
| 10:46.07 | roger21 | abrotman, yeah something like that maybe, so you have it, i do not |
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| 10:46.57 | imdea | mumpitzel, how do I know my current runlevel? according to inittab file it should be 2 |
| 10:47.06 | imdea | mumpitzel, /etc/inittab file looks fine |
| 10:47.13 | abrotman | roger21: aptitude install '~pstandard' |
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| 10:47.31 | abrotman | roger21: i think that task is only available during the install |
| 10:47.55 | roger21 | isn't that weird? |
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| 10:48.15 | mumpitzel | imdea: "runlevel" |
| 10:48.28 | roger21 | or at least uncanny |
| 10:48.46 | imdea | mumpitzel, # runlevel |
| 10:48.46 | imdea | N 2 |
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| 10:49.30 | mumpitzel | imdea: check your /etc/rc2.d/ ?for some reason all the sysvinit stuff (amonng them mounting partitions), isn't done |
| 10:49.41 | mumpitzel | why I don't know, especially when there is no error or warning at all |
| 10:50.01 | abrotman | is he able to remount /? |
| 10:50.08 | mumpitzel | imdea: do you have virtual terminals (ctrl+alf+f2 anf f3? |
| 10:50.23 | imdea | mumpitzel, but what should I look there? I have done a ls and everything looks "fine" apparently |
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| 10:50.46 | mumpitzel | as abrotman suggested: remount rw to check if the filesystem is ok (or fsck it while ro) |
| 10:50.58 | imdea | mumpitzel, it's a vrtual machine. |
| 10:51.24 | roger21 | is there a way to list the "tasks" with apt-cache or something? |
| 10:51.48 | imdea | yes I'm able to remount the partition as rw |
| 10:52.20 | roger21 | '~pstandard' doesn't return in apt-cache show |
| 10:52.36 | abrotman | roger21: it won't .. you're installing all packages with a Standard priority |
| 10:52.51 | abrotman | roger21: man tasksel, there's a method to list tasks, and also list task packages |
| 10:53.16 | roger21 | yeah i know, it doesn't return more than the ui |
| 10:53.28 | roger21 | why would i install all packages ? |
| 10:53.33 | abrotman | roger21: right, aptitude install '~pstandard' |
| 10:53.40 | roger21 | why? |
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| 10:53.49 | abrotman | roger21: it doesn't install all packages, it installs all "standard" priority packages |
| 10:53.58 | abrotman | most packages are 'optional' priority |
| 10:53.59 | roger21 | yeah ok, why? |
| 10:54.06 | abrotman | because that's what you're asking to do |
| 10:54.13 | imdea | abrotman, I am able to remount / as rw |
| 10:54.14 | roger21 | i don't think so |
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| 10:54.21 | abrotman | roger21: okay, good luck |
| 10:54.28 | abrotman | imdea: did you fsck before you moiunted it? |
| 10:54.30 | roger21 | thanks m8 |
| 10:54.42 | abrotman | dpkg: tell roger21 about standard task |
| 10:54.51 | imdea | abrotman: yes: fsck /dev/xxx -f |
| 10:55.06 | abrotman | imdea: can you run all the scripts in your rc2.d? |
| 10:55.32 | abrotman | roger21: bot says the same thing |
| 10:55.59 | roger21 | aren't they installed already if so important? |
| 10:56.03 | Yaku-noob | hmm not working so far |
| 10:56.05 | Yaku-noob | http://i.imgur.com/vC6rt7o.jpg |
| 10:56.14 | imdea | abrotman, should I do /etc/init.d/<script> start with all the scripts under rc2.d |
| 10:56.21 | Yaku-noob | http://i.imgur.com/8G4dmgV.jpg |
| 10:56.28 | roger21 | the tasksel entry didn't seem to say they were mandatory, au contraire |
| 10:56.40 | abrotman | roger21: important is different than required .. i have no idea why you're arguing about this |
| 10:57.02 | abrotman | imdea: uh .. that's one way to do it i suppose .. seems like it would make debugging more difficult |
| 10:57.17 | imdea | abrotman: what way do you suggest to me? |
| 10:57.37 | roger21 | because the whole point of all that is choosing and knowing what i'm installing, not installing a bucjh of packages blind |
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| 10:59.00 | abrotman | roger21: you don't know with tasksel what will be installed, how is this different? |
| 10:59.40 | abrotman | roger21: aptitude search '~pstandard' |
| 10:59.51 | roger21 | of course i know, i can list the packages of the tasks |
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| 11:00.12 | abrotman | and you can list packages with the same priority |
| 11:00.28 | Yaku-noob | how can i figure out what´s wrong with my wifi settings ? |
| 11:00.31 | roger21 | now, ~pstandard include telnet w3m ftp, why the fuck would i install those shit? |
| 11:00.36 | imdea | I don't know what to do..... |
| 11:01.03 | abrotman | roger21: you asked how to do what tasksel does, and tasksel installs those with the "Standard System" task |
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| 11:01.26 | daveee123 | is there a way to display the CPU temp in the top bar in gnome3?> |
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| 11:01.38 | abrotman | daveee123: extensions.gnome.org may have a plugin for that |
| 11:03.24 | abrotman | thinks those three packages are rather useful |
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| 11:33.28 | daveee123 | hey, sudo apt-get lm-sensors is turning up that the package is not available, but referred by another package? |
| 11:33.50 | mumpitzel | daveee123: your sources.list is broken |
| 11:34.01 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: how do I fix that? |
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| 11:34.44 | mumpitzel | !tell daveee123 about wheezy sources.list |
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| 11:35.26 | daveee123 | got it |
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| 11:45.39 | Thomas`- | Hi all. could anyone please help me out with cron? I am getting errors in my system log when i try to execute "php -f" |
| 11:46.26 | Thomas`- | Does anyone know where to find cron experts |
| 11:46.27 | mumpitzel | Thomas`-: state your actual problem and give useful details. like your cron entry, error messages, etc |
| 11:46.53 | Thomas`- | mumpitzel, the errors i have pasted in http://codepad.org/cNTbNlGw |
| 11:47.09 | Thomas`- | i will post my cron entry |
| 11:47.46 | mumpitzel | paste ALL the logs... |
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| 11:48.46 | Thomas`- | mumixam, this is full crontab: http://codepad.org/SOyXMQ5c |
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| 11:50.35 | Thomas`- | any idea what cron is having trouble with my code? |
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| 11:51.46 | mumpitzel | since you omit the error messages: no |
| 11:52.14 | Thomas`- | where are the error messages? |
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| 11:52.33 | Thomas`- | do you mean the /var/log/syslog errors |
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| 11:53.39 | Thomas`- | (CRON) error (grandchild #2055 failed with exit status 2) |
| 11:53.50 | Thomas`- | this part to me sort of stands out |
| 11:55.19 | Thomas`- | it runs every minute and fails every time, yet i run the exact same command with the same user outside of cron and it works fine |
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| 12:02.42 | abrotman | Thomas`-: path problems? |
| 12:03.10 | mumpitzel | Thomas`-: your scripts write everything to a log file. check that log |
| 12:03.30 | Thomas`- | mumixam, the log doesnt get created |
| 12:03.42 | Thomas`- | aboman, i dont see how because they are absolute paths |
| 12:04.05 | abrotman | Thomas`-: it was a question, not an answer |
| 12:04.43 | Thomas`- | it might be env problem |
| 12:04.54 | jelly-home | cron jobs that have output generate mail reports. |
| 12:05.13 | mumpitzel | jelly-home: he redirects all output and has no MTA installed... |
| 12:05.24 | jelly-home | "don't do that, then" |
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| 12:05.57 | jelly-home | install a MTA, don't hide the output, THEN debug |
| 12:06.09 | jelly-home | ... isn't that kind of obvious? |
| 12:06.33 | format_c | Thomas`-, I generally recommand two lines at the beginning of a crontab: SHELL="/bin/bash" and MAILTO="youremail@address.de" |
| 12:06.41 | Thomas`- | no i dont even know what mta is |
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| 12:07.08 | format_c | setting PATH is also very useful |
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| 12:07.28 | jelly-home | Thomas`-: roughly, a mail server. Something that provides /usr/sbin/sendmail command that enables cron to send those reports. |
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| 12:08.25 | dep_ | Why do i get this error message, it works in the terminal -http://paste.debian.net/14689/ |
| 12:08.27 | jelly-home | Thomas`-: eg. msmtp-mta, or nullmailer, or for a full-blown option, postfix or exim4-daemon-light |
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| 12:08.54 | jelly-home | forgot which null client "mta" also did local delivery |
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| 12:09.47 | deed02392 | hi, I am installing some software from source and it asks which directory I want to install the base of the software |
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| 12:10.02 | deed02392 | where is suggested I should install it? |
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| 12:10.10 | mumpitzel | deed02392: where would it get $f from? it's not defined |
| 12:10.19 | deed02392 | er |
| 12:10.26 | deed02392 | did you mean someone else mumpitzel |
| 12:10.30 | mumpitzel | deed02392: that was for dep_, sorry |
| 12:10.49 | deed02392 | I think that opt iirc is the suggested place to install custom software from source |
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| 12:11.08 | deed02392 | or I could create a user for this software (since it's an internet service) and install in that users' home? |
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| 12:12.47 | mumpitzel | !tell deed02392 about stow |
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| 12:13.25 | abrotman | or checkinstall |
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| 12:25.19 | daveee123 | I am having an issue with my sources.list. i changed it manually to include many sources. any whenever I click on it. it opens up a "Software Sources" window. I am in gnome3. and it will not let me select the checkboxes that woudl add to the source list |
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| 12:26.28 | daveee123 | may be fixing this, not sure yet |
| 12:27.44 | abrotman | include many sources? |
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| 12:34.12 | AnimaTempli | I need some help with Chmod'ing some folders/files |
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| 12:41.05 | Yamgie | AnimaTempli: Hey, whatcha need? |
| 12:41.18 | AnimaTempli | I'm installing SMF on my server |
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| 12:41.31 | AnimaTempli | and it needs some right to write to folders and files |
| 12:41.35 | AnimaTempli | I have no control panel |
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| 12:41.47 | AnimaTempli | how do I do that trough terminal? |
| 12:42.58 | Yamgie | So you just wanna give a specific functioning account read/write privliges? |
| 12:44.28 | AnimaTempli | tunctioning account? Sorry but I have never done this before, so guidance was needed |
| 12:44.37 | AnimaTempli | was = is* |
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| 12:45.16 | Yamgie | Err... an account that the program uses? |
| 12:45.23 | Yamgie | I'm unfamiliar with SMF |
| 12:45.34 | Yamgie | will it use your credentials or another account? |
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| 12:46.32 | AnimaTempli | I'm not sure... The installer of the program needs the rights to edit the files |
| 12:47.16 | mumpitzel | !permissions |
| 12:47.16 | dpkg | For information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions', http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions and http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html . For further information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod and follow the setuid and setgid links within. See also <ssh permissions>, <qotd232>. http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
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| 12:48.22 | daveee123 | the apt how to says it is obsolete documentation. so i was wondering after i run sudo apt-get update. what should i run to upgrade? |
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| 12:49.50 | Yamgie | sudo apt-get upgrade? |
| 12:50.15 | Yamgie | Well just chmod the folder recursively |
| 12:51.02 | AnimaTempli | I'm completely lost about the chmod thing |
| 12:51.24 | daveee123 | Yamgie: i was reading about sudo apt-get distupgrade |
| 12:51.31 | daveee123 | Yamgie: wasnt sure if that was better |
| 12:52.08 | Yamgie | AnimaTempli: chmod -R 0777 FOLDERNAMEHERE |
| 12:52.24 | Yamgie | chmod changes the read/write permissions to files/folders |
| 12:52.25 | AnimaTempli | Thank you, I'm gonna try that :) |
| 12:52.32 | AnimaTempli | I know what it does |
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| 12:52.46 | AnimaTempli | I just don't know how to edit it without a cpanel |
| 12:52.48 | Yamgie | daveee123: distupgrade is to upgrade your distribution, upgrade is for packages. |
| 12:53.03 | Yamgie | from the terminal, run that command I gave you. |
| 12:53.35 | josgalo | Hi, I want to install lintian and devscripts from wheezy-backports but when I execute 'aptitude -t wheezy-backports show lintian' it doesn't get backports version on the other hand 'aptitude show lintian/wheezy-backports' is working fine. In squeeze I used the first one. Anything changed? |
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| 13:02.21 | daveee123 | Yamgie: why wouldnt i want to upgrade my distribution? or. wait. distupgrade upgrades different things than upgrade does? so should i do both? |
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| 13:03.58 | Yamgie | Do both, but they do two different things. |
| 13:04.18 | daveee123 | Yamgie: got it. thanks |
| 13:04.30 | Yamgie | daveee123: No problem |
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| 13:07.01 | deed02392 | ok guys |
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| 13:07.20 | deed02392 | i'm trying to use stow to install some software which also has configuration dir |
| 13:07.43 | deed02392 | is there some way to avoid sticking the config stuff in /usr/local |
| 13:07.53 | deed02392 | whilst putting binaries in the right place? |
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| 13:11.25 | bitonic | mhm, seahorse segfaults. I upgraded to jessie yesterday |
| 13:11.29 | bitonic | what to do? |
| 13:11.36 | Yamgie | Change the install prefix to wherever you want the config to be and create a symbolic link |
| 13:11.47 | Yamgie | deed02392: |
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| 13:12.42 | daveee123 | looking at some usage stats. i see user, system, nice, iowait, and other. |
| 13:12.44 | daveee123 | what is nice? |
| 13:12.59 | Yamgie | ? |
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| 13:14.01 | daveee123 | it is a gnome3 extension. it is showing percentages of cpu usage. |
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| 13:14.25 | AnimaTempli | Yamgie, thank you for your help. It solved my problem :) |
| 13:14.30 | AnimaTempli | Any gtg |
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| 13:16.30 | deed02392 | Yamgie, what? |
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| 13:17.30 | Yamgie | deed02392: Under your make install commands, change the prefix to the location you want the config files, move the binaries, then create a symbolic link |
| 13:18.07 | deed02392 | or |
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| 13:18.20 | deed02392 | could I stow just app/bin to /usr/local/bin |
| 13:18.34 | deed02392 | and then change the configs from /usr/local/stow/app/config |
| 13:18.56 | deed02392 | your suggestion takes out the usage of stow right |
| 13:19.08 | deed02392 | but as soon as I start changing the structure and only stowing half the app and not the other |
| 13:19.14 | Yamgie | I'm unfamilar with stow itself... |
| 13:19.15 | deed02392 | stuff gets inconsistent.. defeating the purpose of using stow |
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| 13:19.29 | Yamgie | I was speaking generally. |
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| 13:19.53 | bitonic | oh, this seems to be it <http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=644623> |
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| 13:22.00 | deed02392 | mumpitzel, do you have experience with stow in these cases? |
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| 13:22.57 | mumpitzel | no. normal is /usr/local/etc then |
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| 13:23.10 | mumpitzel | can't you use a commandline parameter for your program? |
| 13:23.22 | deed02392 | i'm sure I can mumpitzel |
| 13:23.42 | deed02392 | it's inspircd i am installing |
| 13:23.57 | mumpitzel | then use the parameter to tell the program its config files are in /etc ? |
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| 13:24.42 | deed02392 | ok. right now it has bin, conf, data, inspircd, logs and modules in /usr/local/stow/inspircd-2.0.13 |
| 13:25.16 | mumpitzel | ,v inspircd |
| 13:25.17 | deed02392 | so should I just stow bin or what? because i think it needs to find modules relative to the binary |
| 13:25.17 | judd | Package: inspircd on i386 -- squeeze: 1.1.22+dfsg-4+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 1.1.22+dfsg-4+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2.0.5-1~bpo60+1; jessie: 2.0.5-1+b1; sid: 2.0.5-1+b1; wheezy: 2.0.5-1+b1 |
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| 13:25.33 | deed02392 | yea packages are way behind source mumpitzel |
| 13:25.35 | mumpitzel | you should have done it differently |
| 13:25.54 | mumpitzel | merging the package source with the vanilla source if at all possible |
| 13:26.05 | mumpitzel | and at the end you'd have a shiny new .deb file to install |
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| 13:26.25 | deed02392 | that sounds like a cool idea |
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| 13:29.37 | deed02392 | how do you do something like that mumpitzel ? |
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| 13:35.33 | Guest18296 | Hello, i got a fresh install of sid, how to change it to experimental? |
| 13:35.42 | daemonkeeper | Sid is a partial suite. |
| 13:35.47 | daemonkeeper | err experimental |
| 13:35.51 | mumpitzel | Guest18296: you can't |
| 13:36.11 | Guest18296 | and, where i get a "experimental" iso? |
| 13:36.23 | mumpitzel | again: you can't |
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| 13:37.30 | Guest18296 | so only way to get experimentals, is to > apt-get install -t experimental PACKAGE < ? |
| 13:37.41 | mumpitzel | yes |
| 13:37.48 | Guest18296 | ahh, thank you very much |
| 13:37.58 | dvs | Guest18296: Yes, expermental and not an entire distro |
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| 13:37.59 | mumpitzel | and from the questions you ask, you shouldn't ever do that. and we will not support experimental either |
| 13:38.06 | dvs | s/and/is |
| 13:39.03 | Guest18296 | but its good to know, fresher iceweasel from apt... (: ty |
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| 13:39.53 | mumpitzel | Guest18296: if you want bleeding edge iceweasel, go to mozilla.debian.net instead |
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| 13:42.33 | musca | mumpitzel: mozilla.debian.net will send you to ... experimental |
| 13:42.43 | brianbep | Hello all. I'm troubleshooting an issue with the suspend feature of debian wheezy 7.1. Problem synopsis, already taken steps, logs, and systems specs here: https://gist.github.com/bbuchalter/5934099. I'm considering switching my sources to jessie to see if fresh packages help. Could someone answer a few questions about this process? |
| 13:43.01 | mumpitzel | !tell brianbep about ask |
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| 13:43.18 | deed02392 | can someone point me to a guide on merging a debian repository package with the latest source? |
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| 13:44.45 | brianbep | If I switch my sources to jessie, is it possible to go back to wheezy? If so, how? Can I just upgrade a single package and it's dependencies? If so how? |
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| 13:44.56 | mumpitzel | brianbep: no, not possible |
| 13:45.16 | mumpitzel | and mixing debian stable with something else is strongly discouraged and will not be supported |
| 13:45.32 | brianbep | mumpitzel, understood. |
| 13:45.34 | mumpitzel | you can create a backport yourself. /msg dpkg ssb |
| 13:46.10 | brianbep | Are there any steps required other than switching sources in moving from wheezy to jessie? |
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| 13:47.41 | monod | hey guys |
| 13:47.48 | monod | urgent (yet easy) question |
| 13:47.52 | mumpitzel | brianbep: yes, and understanding of debian |
| 13:48.02 | mumpitzel | *an |
| 13:48.16 | monod | what if I 'dd' a 39GB text file to stout? and then pipe it with 'more' or 'less'? |
| 13:48.34 | brianbep | mumpitzel, i had a feeling you were going to say that. point me towards something so I can RTFMs? |
| 13:48.48 | nkuttler | monod: why don't you more it directly? |
| 13:49.04 | monod | oh, I forgot that, nkuttler |
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| 13:49.16 | monod | will 'more' need to read it all first? ( :( ) |
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| 13:49.51 | monod | while maybe 'less' doesn't have to? nkuttler |
| 13:50.01 | nkuttler | monod: was just going to say, i always use less |
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| 13:50.09 | monod | okay |
| 13:50.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
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| 13:50.17 | musca | and what about most? |
| 13:50.23 | monod | I'll see by myself than, thanks nkuttler |
| 13:50.28 | monod | most? musca |
| 13:50.31 | monod | exists? |
| 13:50.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | my ADS/samba appears broken.. i am looking for an alternative.. if i cant figure it out |
| 13:50.49 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: Windows |
| 13:50.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | anybody got an ldap howto for debian wheezy+? |
| 13:51.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | abrotman: that is not funny... |
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| 13:51.02 | monod | musca, ok, found |
| 13:51.28 | musca | !most |
| 13:51.28 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, most is more or less the same. a pager(1). apt-get install most |
| 13:51.30 | Eryn_1983_FL | i would gladly blow the two DCs i have away right now.. |
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| 13:51.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | but i need bind and ldap setup first |
| 13:52.23 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: i wasn't joking |
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| 13:52.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | unhuh |
| 13:53.17 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: you're emulating a Windows technology .. Samba is the only OSS daemon I know of that imitates that Windows technology |
| 13:54.26 | abrotman | To answer your other question, LDAP hasn't changed very much in the last few years .. |
| 13:54.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | really? |
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| 13:54.49 | abrotman | so if oyu're having an actual problem with LDAP, just ask it |
| 13:54.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | just saw an article that said the wheezy version was diff |
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| 13:54.58 | thechef | Hi |
| 13:55.01 | abrotman | did you read the 'diff'? |
| 13:55.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | nope no issue with ldap its samba and i already asked them in their channel should take like a few days for somebody to respond. |
| 13:55.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | goes back to the #samba channel |
| 13:55.34 | abrotman | that's #samba .. |
| 13:55.45 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: there's also a #ldap or #openldap, can't remember which |
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| 13:57.44 | mumpitzel | brianbep: testing will break at certain times and you will need to know about debian, dependency management, apt, dpkg, etc to fix it. SInce we don't know how it will break I can't give you a howto for fixing hypothetical errors in the future... |
| 13:57.50 | thechef | I'm trying to set pulseaudio networking like this: A computer plays a song in amarok or youtube, the audio signal should be broadcasted to all other computer in the Local Area Network. Security is not relevant, because everyone in the LAN is completely trusted. Is there a debian specific guide for pulseaudio or should the default guide just work? |
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| 14:00.25 | AminCX | hello, can i use archivemount for 1000+ tar files at the same time ? i was wondering about some limits on the mount. |
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| 14:03.57 | brianbep | mumpitzel, ahhh, I see. I thought you meant I needed to understand Debian in order to make the switch, technically. I don't think I'm interested in that adventure at the moment. I'll see if there is any luck for me in the mailing list. Thank you. |
| 14:05.08 | musca | !tell AminCX about file-nr |
| 14:06.02 | Eryn_1983_FL | oh and i am not the only one with this problem |
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| 14:16.35 | IooNag | Hello, I don't have a wiki account and I've spotted a typo in http://wiki.debian.org/Python/Packaging : "Buil-Depends" (missing a 'd') in the last question of the page. What should I do ? |
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| 14:18.29 | IooNag | oh, and there are several over typos in this section, like "pytohn-central"... |
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| 14:19.03 | Eryn_1983_FL | abrotman: i figured it out its the unix charset= locale of my smb.conf i take it out and it seems to join fine checking users and groups |
| 14:19.30 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: Samba is so .. finicky |
| 14:19.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | wbinfo -u works |
| 14:20.00 | abrotman | is trying to be nice about it :) |
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| 14:21.51 | Eryn_1983_FL | almost there now. getent dont work yet |
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| 14:23.57 | monod | what's the command for 'less' to show the current line number?? |
| 14:24.18 | monod | I've surfed to the end of my 39GB text file and now I'd like to know how lines are in it |
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| 14:26.15 | abrotman | monod: wc -l yourfile |
| 14:26.19 | epsilon | just the total line number? wc -l |
| 14:26.52 | monod | is there a command from inside 'less'? |
| 14:27.02 | monod | because it's a huge file and I've already opened it with less |
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| 14:27.35 | jorgemustaine | http://www.esdebian.org/foro/49486/problemas-dependencias-linux-320-4-amd64-1-smp-debian-3246-1-x8664?page=0#comment-331272 |
| 14:27.51 | epsilon | less -N <file> |
| 14:28.12 | monod | and at runtime? epsilon |
| 14:28.41 | abrotman | dpkg: es |
| 14:28.42 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 14:28.50 | abrotman | jorgemustaine: or english here |
| 14:29.03 | monod | nevermind, pressed 'h' and got the help menu |
| 14:29.07 | monod | I'll give it a look |
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| 14:49.30 | Kobaz | would anyone know why using md superblock 2.0 will cause the kernel to not autodetect md arrays |
| 14:49.59 | Kobaz | if i use 0.9, autodetect works fine (but you can't use >2tb arrays) |
| 14:50.21 | Kobaz | er, not 2.0... super 1.2 rather |
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| 14:54.05 | Kobaz | i've found some sparse posts around... basically people who use 1.2 who have autodetect problems, move down to 0.9 and it works, but i can't do that for my disk sizes |
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| 14:55.40 | Kobaz | md superblock 1.2 has been around for a *long* time, it's gotta be some sort of config type thing, i would be really surprised if there's a bug this bad in autodetect |
| 14:55.51 | rypervenche | Kobaz: I don't think autodetect works in 1.2. What version of grub are you using? Legacy or 2? |
| 14:56.02 | Kobaz | grub2 |
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| 14:56.58 | rypervenche | Kobaz: I'm not sure how it works in Debian, but I know on my system I couldn't get it to work unless I actually added my mdadm.conf to my initramfs. |
| 14:57.16 | Kobaz | yeah |
| 14:57.24 | rypervenche | Or at least the location of it. not sure which it did. |
| 14:57.26 | Kobaz | you shouldnt have to do that with partition type fd |
| 14:57.40 | Kobaz | i've never, ever had to touch mdadm.conf using superblock 0.9 |
| 14:57.55 | rypervenche | Yeah, I think that has changed. |
| 14:58.06 | Kobaz | conveniently, my root filesystem is on an 0.9 mirror |
| 14:58.18 | rypervenche | Again, I can't be 100% sure, but I know it to be true with Gentoo at least. |
| 14:58.20 | Kobaz | so i'm just monkeying up a mdadm.conf |
| 14:58.31 | Kobaz | well they both use the same kernel base |
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| 14:58.38 | rypervenche | I can show you my mdadm.conf if you'd like to see how it should be set up. |
| 14:58.57 | Kobaz | i just made my mdadm, and manuall assembling isnt working, havent tried rebooting yet |
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| 14:59.09 | Kobaz | mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 works now |
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| 14:59.47 | Kobaz | rypervenche: do you have everything spelled out? like uuid= and also devices= |
| 15:00.00 | rypervenche | Kobaz: http://bpaste.net/show/112306/ |
| 15:00.24 | Kobaz | okay, i tried that, with just the uuid |
| 15:00.37 | Kobaz | but i needed to add devices=/dev/sda1,/dev/sdb1 ... etc |
| 15:00.55 | rypervenche | Yep, that'll do it :P |
| 15:01.05 | Kobaz | i think a lazy developer just never added support for autodetect in 1.2 |
| 15:01.16 | rypervenche | Yeah, it never worked for me. |
| 15:01.26 | rypervenche | But that's ok. It's just an extra option in my initramfs script. |
| 15:01.31 | Kobaz | i would think the code is the same except for where in the metadata block to look for uuid |
| 15:01.57 | m0g | I'm pretty sure this is asked very often but I can't find anything working on the web: what is the proper way to write the fstab so that a partition is mounted as user and not root at startup? |
| 15:02.11 | Kobaz | m0g: uid= |
| 15:02.18 | nkuttler | m0g: do you mean that a user has rw permissions? |
| 15:02.34 | m0g | nkuttler: y |
| 15:02.36 | Kobaz | under options... uid=500 |
| 15:02.42 | nkuttler | m0g: depends on the filesystem.. |
| 15:03.06 | m0g | ok thanks, I'll try to tweak the uid then. Cheers :) |
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| 15:03.09 | Kobaz | it does depend on the filesystem, some don't support that, but the ones that do generally use uid |
| 15:03.15 | m0g | ok |
| 15:03.16 | nkuttler | m0g: see man mount for details |
| 15:03.34 | Kobaz | m0g: sooo.. keep in mind that *all* files will be owned by that user |
| 15:03.48 | Kobaz | m0g: and changing ownership on a file will do nothing |
| 15:04.17 | m0g | Kobaz: it should be fine for my usecase I think. Thanks for the details :) |
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| 15:19.19 | deed02392 | I'm trying to use uupdate to bring a package source uptodate, but it is detecting the newer version as being older than the current version |
| 15:19.22 | deed02392 | how do I fix/override this? |
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| 15:20.42 | theseb | how make the desktop system NOT "steal" the escape key from Emacs ? :) |
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| 15:49.13 | Calavera | I'm trying to use scp to copy an entire directory from my home machine to a Debian server. The command that I have been using is this |
| 15:49.15 | Calavera | scp -r D:\New Downloads calavera@192.168.2.113:~/New_Downloadsscp -r D:\New Downloads calavera@192.168.2.113:~/New_Downloads |
| 15:49.39 | Calavera | For some reason, it's prompting me for my password, and the password for sudo that I know is correct is being denied. |
| 15:49.42 | Calavera | Any ideas? |
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| 15:50.00 | jiohdi | try su -l and use the root password |
| 15:50.34 | Calavera | Why would it give me that permissions error in the first place? |
| 15:50.47 | Calavera | It's just a simple scp. I don't see what Debian thinks is such a big deal. |
| 15:50.57 | Calavera | Also, thank you. I forgot about that one. |
| 15:51.09 | jiohdi | dont know but debian is a stickler at times |
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| 15:51.43 | jiohdi | must all dot the teeth and cross the eyes |
| 15:52.07 | Calavera | Well... apparently my scp command was malformed in the first place. |
| 15:52.08 | jiohdi | or is that dot the teats and cross the eyes? |
| 15:52.12 | Calavera | Hmm... |
| 15:52.59 | Luke-Jr | postfix has to remove task-mail-server? :/ |
| 15:54.30 | Calavera | Oh wait... that isn't what I typed in. |
| 15:54.46 | Calavera | Good lord... umm... give me a second. |
| 15:54.49 | abrotman | Luke-Jr: or install another SMTP server |
| 15:55.04 | Luke-Jr | abrotman: ? |
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| 15:57.25 | abrotman | Luke-Jr: what? |
| 15:57.43 | Luke-Jr | abrotman: postfix *is* another SMTP server |
| 15:58.21 | abrotman | Luke-Jr: oh, you're trying to install it, not remove it |
| 15:58.24 | Luke-Jr | yes |
| 15:58.30 | abrotman | Luke-Jr: that 'task' uses exim i believe, corerct? |
| 15:58.34 | Luke-Jr | seems so |
| 15:58.39 | Luke-Jr | I was expecting some kind of virtual |
| 15:58.45 | abrotman | not a big deal .. just remove it |
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| 16:21.41 | un214 | what's up with the java plugin on the latest firefox? |
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| 16:27.25 | abrotman | un214: that's not very descriptive |
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| 16:29.40 | tx | Try the firefox channel |
| 16:30.45 | owen1 | i want to make clickable urls with xterm. i followed this link - http://blog.orebokech.com/ that suggest XTerm*charClass: 33:48,36-47:48,58-59:48,61:48,63-64:48,95:48,126:48 |
| 16:31.26 | owen1 | which suppose to let me select url by double click on it. but it's not doing that. can anyone try it? |
| 16:32.07 | owen1 | i can select the entire url with the mouse, but double click would be sweet. thanks! |
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| 16:36.24 | jhutchins | owen1: Do you mean ou want xterm to launch a web browser pointing to a URL when you double-click one displayed on the term? |
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| 16:37.57 | no_gravity | Hello! When connecting to my monitor via dsub, debian only offers me 1024x768 but my monitor has 1280x1024 pixels. How do I get the real resolution? |
| 16:39.59 | un214 | change between firefox 20 and 21 moved plugins to browser/plugins |
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| 16:40.47 | abrotman | no_gravity: your video card many not support that |
| 16:40.54 | abrotman | no_gravity: try xrandr |
| 16:41.34 | no_gravity | abrotman: it works when i connect via the display port. isnt the same video card connected to both? |
| 16:41.46 | no_gravity | abrotman: this is a thinkpad x301 by the way. |
| 16:41.55 | jhutchins | no_gravity: Different interfaces have different capabilities. |
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| 16:42.16 | jhutchins | no_gravity: see /var/log/Xorg.0.log for more of what your system thinks your hardware can do. |
| 16:42.30 | no_gravity | abrotman: xrandr says maximum 8192 x 8192 |
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| 16:43.01 | no_gravity | jhutchins: theres a ton of stuff in there |
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| 16:43.20 | jhutchins | no_gravity: Right. |
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| 16:44.50 | jhutchins | no_gravity: By the way, there are a LOT of possible "dsub" connections. |
| 16:45.13 | jhutchins | no_gravity: Any of which can also be a "display port". |
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| 16:45.30 | no_gravity | so how would you guys go about this? |
| 16:45.48 | moof2 | you mean... reading? |
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| 16:46.40 | owen1 | jhutchins: yeh |
| 16:47.04 | no_gravity | well... i will switch back to my ugly displayport to dvi adapter. |
| 16:47.25 | owen1 | jhutchins: the browser is being open so it's cool (with *VT100*translations: #override Meta <Btn1Up>: exec-formatted("x-www-browser '%t'", PRIMARY)) |
| 16:47.45 | owen1 | but the double click is not working so i have to select the url with the mouse |
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| 16:50.08 | jhutchins | owen1: konsole has that feature built in. |
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| 16:51.11 | jhutchins | no_gravity: Is your "dsub" perhaps a 15 pin VGA connector? |
| 16:51.36 | no_gravity | jhutchins: it looks like a cable.thats all i can say about it. |
| 16:51.48 | no_gravity | i went through this now: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112186 |
| 16:51.53 | no_gravity | and it works! |
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| 16:52.58 | jhutchins | no_gravity: Did you modify an xorg.conf file? |
| 16:53.00 | owen1 | jhutchins: nice. but i like my xterm (: |
| 16:53.04 | no_gravity | jhutchins: no |
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| 16:55.38 | no_gravity | Hmm... there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf - how do i make shit permanent now? |
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| 16:59.21 | moof2 | what did you do that you think is not permanent? |
| 16:59.22 | tx | You can still make one iirc. |
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| 17:00.12 | no_gravity | moof2: the whole xrandr --newmode... xrandr --addmode ... xrandr --output shit that is needed to set the resolution. |
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| 17:00.56 | moof2 | you could start by putting that stuff in a script |
| 17:01.22 | no_gravity | moof2: i could. but then i will have to run that script everytime i switch between my internal and external monitor. |
| 17:01.46 | abrotman | no_gravity: just create one |
| 17:02.00 | abrotman | no_gravity: please only work in one channel, you're getting conflicting advice |
| 17:02.01 | no_gravity | abrotman: i dont know what to put in. |
| 17:02.14 | abrotman | no_gravity: ask on OFTC, stop bouncing back and forth |
| 17:02.30 | tx | Again, you can make xorg.conf |
| 17:02.32 | tx | and it will be read |
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| 17:02.46 | no_gravity | xt: i dont know what to put in. |
| 17:03.07 | moof2 | you can start with X -configure |
| 17:03.07 | abrotman | no_gravity: ask on OFTC, stop bouncing back and forth |
| 17:03.19 | abrotman | folks, he's getting help on another network .. you're giving conflicting advice |
| 17:03.26 | tx | You can probably generate one depending on your card |
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| 17:03.39 | tx | I know that the Nvidia package will make one for you. |
| 17:03.54 | moof2 | tx, that should be what X -configure does |
| 17:03.59 | abrotman | ahem .. |
| 17:04.01 | tx | Yeah. |
| 17:04.13 | tx | Though more generic I would figure? :P |
| 17:04.46 | moof2 | abrotman, isn't that his problem? |
| 17:04.59 | abrotman | moof2: it'll be your problem if you break his box, right? |
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| 17:05.03 | abrotman | moof2: don't be a jerk |
| 17:05.30 | tx | It's not up to us to worry about how he chooses to use the advise he gets |
| 17:05.35 | tx | from my perspective he's on one network |
| 17:05.36 | abrotman | getting conflicting advice from different people in the same channel is bad enough, let alone two networks |
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| 17:06.08 | tx | Generating an xorg file isn't going to destroy his box. |
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| 17:06.38 | abrotman | tx: please take a timeout and consider what two different sets of advice could do to someone's box. thank you. |
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| 17:21.34 | deed02392 | v, anope |
| 17:21.52 | mrdeb | hi , do u need to cover molex connectors with elec tape inside a case |
| 17:21.54 | deed02392 | am i doing it wrong |
| 17:21.56 | mrdeb | ??? |
| 17:22.03 | deed02392 | no mrdeb |
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| 17:22.30 | deed02392 | a) voltages are very low, b) they are designed to resist accidental contact |
| 17:22.37 | mrdeb | deed02392: what if it touches metal? i read u should |
| 17:23.16 | deed02392 | well i'm not going to argue, but i wouldn't bother |
| 17:23.28 | mrdeb | ok |
| 17:23.37 | mrdeb | i know oem pcs have covers |
| 17:23.47 | mrdeb | but they dont come with psu usually |
| 17:24.07 | deed02392 | probably a liability thing |
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| 17:24.27 | mrdeb | bec of evil lawyers, ok |
| 17:26.30 | moof2 | deed02392, it's enough current to melt insulation |
| 17:26.38 | honestemu | I have a Thinkpad T40 with #! installed. I'm having an issue connecting with wireless. I'm able to see the network that I want to connect to, but I can't connect to it. Any suggestion? I can give more details if necessary. |
| 17:26.41 | moof2 | especially coming from the psu |
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| 17:27.09 | moof2 | what's #!? |
| 17:27.13 | abrotman | mrdeb: wrong channel, try ##hardware |
| 17:27.32 | abrotman | honestemu: you're in the wrong channel, try #crunchbang-linux |
| 17:27.54 | deed02392 | surely not before shortcircuiting moof2 |
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| 17:28.46 | moof2 | deed02392, correct, so that would alter the statement to "there's plenty of current -available-" |
| 17:29.05 | deed02392 | lol |
| 17:29.42 | moof2 | my first computer and scsi card kept frying scsi cables |
| 17:29.48 | abrotman | !ot |
| 17:29.48 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 17:29.59 | mrdeb | moof2: #! is crunchbang, debian os |
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| 17:30.03 | deed02392 | how do you use 'v'? |
| 17:30.08 | abrotman | mrdeb: it is not Debian |
| 17:30.11 | deed02392 | v, inspircd |
| 17:30.21 | abrotman | deed02392: packages.debian.org/inspircd |
| 17:30.25 | mrdeb | yes it is |
| 17:30.30 | abrotman | mrdeb: no, it is not |
| 17:30.44 | deed02392 | join #electronics mrdeb |
| 17:30.46 | abrotman | mrdeb: Crunchbang is a distro based on Debian, it is NOT Debian, and certainly not supported here |
| 17:30.47 | nkuttler | !tell mrdeb about based on debian |
| 17:30.57 | mrdeb | it usess debian repos |
| 17:31.03 | mrdeb | i will not argue but i disagree |
| 17:31.03 | abrotman | mrdeb: Crunchbang is a distro based on Debian, it is NOT Debian, and certainly not supported here |
| 17:31.10 | abrotman | mrdeb: you're wrong |
| 17:31.13 | mrdeb | no |
| 17:31.24 | abrotman | and again :) |
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| 17:31.31 | deed02392 | girls, please |
| 17:31.37 | rryoumaa | mrdeb: "it is not supported here" is wrong? O.o |
| 17:31.57 | mrdeb | no rryou |
| 17:32.07 | mrdeb | part about not being debian |
| 17:32.17 | abrotman | i'ts not Debian, if it were Debian, it would be called "Debian" |
| 17:32.45 | deed02392 | people should use their /ignore more |
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| 17:32.59 | mrdeb | good idea |
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| 17:36.36 | Devastator | I guess I will install debian on my, old but, new pc and struggle a bit with my nvidia card, let's see how xfce works on this old hardware... |
| 17:37.08 | mumpitzel | old but new pc? |
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| 17:37.29 | Devastator | yes.. I did an upgrade with old parts :P |
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| 18:09.15 | Strife89 | has a small problem. When using df to check disk space, one of his disks uses a long /dev/disk/by-uuid identifier instead of, say, /dev/sda6. |
| 18:09.39 | daemonkeeper | so? |
| 18:10.03 | Strife89 | Because of this long line, the remaining columns are pushed so far over that a default-size terminal window is not large enough, and the data is pushed over onto another line. |
| 18:10.23 | maroloccio | for a home web server (apache2) would you consider debian stable to be more "secure" or a distro w/ more up-to-date packages? "testing"? perhaps centos, actually? just making sure vuln. are patched within reasonable time.. |
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| 18:11.01 | daemonkeeper | Testing has no security support. |
| 18:11.34 | Strife89 | daemonkeeper: So it looks like this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1905158/long-uuid.png |
| 18:11.42 | maroloccio | so, "debian stable" is my preference, i should have said.. |
| 18:12.14 | daemonkeeper | Strife89: Well. Make the window larger if that's your only problem. |
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| 18:12.47 | Strife89 | I was wondering if someone here knows of a way to force it to report the device name (/dev/sda1, etc.) instead of what it shows. |
| 18:12.51 | maroloccio | and "testing", within quotes, was just a way to open it up for any suggestions.. i know centos is pretty darn secure (debatable, but this is my view) but i prefer .deb based systems these days.. |
| 18:13.12 | daemonkeeper | Strife89: It takes whatever you put to your fstab. |
| 18:13.22 | daemonkeeper | and having uuids is actually a good idea. |
| 18:13.31 | maroloccio | so, would you feel more or less "at ease" with a home server serving html (apache2) on debian stable or "other"? |
| 18:13.45 | daemonkeeper | maroloccio: CentOS has poor security support. |
| 18:13.54 | maroloccio | daemonkeeper: i knew that was coming :) |
| 18:14.01 | maroloccio | daemonkeeper: i am all ears.. which distro then? |
| 18:14.31 | daemonkeeper | Well, since you ask this in #debian, the answer you likely get is obvious, don't you think? Apart, take whatever fits you best. |
| 18:14.41 | Th0masR0ss | Debian! |
| 18:15.08 | maroloccio | i am all in favour of debian stable, actually. i am quite a fan. even use it as my laptop os (which, again, is a debatable choice) |
| 18:15.11 | daemonkeeper | .oO( awaits someone to say "Gentoo" just to prove me wrong :p ) |
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| 18:16.19 | abrotman | maroloccio: so why are you debating this? |
| 18:16.19 | maroloccio | let's say this.. of all the nicks online.. has anybody kept a server at home online for a long while (my recent `uptime' was 2.5 years, which is not a "lot", but is not "zero" either), service html through apache2 and found it resistent to attacks enough? |
| 18:16.45 | daemonkeeper | Measuring security in uptime is a stupid metric. |
| 18:16.57 | Devastator | maroloccio gentoo will be faster! (I'm joking) |
| 18:17.13 | Th0masR0ss | runs |
| 18:17.18 | Th0masR0ss | Devastator: traitor! |
| 18:17.23 | maroloccio | because i use debian more in an "office" environment. there is a certified firewall appliance, a DMZ setup by a network person, and so the security experience of it is much different than that of just keeping something "online" through a DSL line |
| 18:17.26 | Devastator | heheh |
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| 18:17.39 | Strife89 | daemonkeeper: I'm aware of the benefits; however, I have no plans to further adjust my partitions, so I wager I'll manage without using the UUIDs. ;) |
| 18:17.41 | Th0masR0ss | Devastator is a traitor |
| 18:18.15 | daemonkeeper | Strife89: The real benefit comes when booting/plugging disks and still ensuring your expected boot volume is always the volume you really mean |
| 18:18.17 | maroloccio | i mean, people will of course continuously scan your ports (nmap), try to get to well-known admin pages through apache, etc. etc. just looking at the httpd logs is fine to see how much "scanning" is ongoing all the time on internet hosts |
| 18:18.19 | Strife89 | I had forgotten about checking fstab. |
| 18:18.57 | maroloccio | of course, scanning is just that "scanning".. it becomes "interesting" when a vulnerability is found and you have a time window of exploitation.. |
| 18:19.07 | daemonkeeper | maroloccio: If you ask whether Debian is secure enough for your home server, you may ask why it is considered secure enough to be the server operating system of choice in the wild. |
| 18:19.14 | maroloccio | then.. it matter whether your distro patches things "quickly".. or not |
| 18:19.18 | AnimalFarmPig | Quick question-- I have a Raspberry Pi and a workstation both running Sid. I want a virtual X11 server that I can run on the Pi (not connected to any displays) and access using VNC/RDP from my workstation. I've set up something like this at a previous job, but I've forgotten which packages I used on the server side. Can anyone recommend/remind me? |
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| 18:20.01 | AnimalFarmPig | maroloccio, I've had a couple of servers serving html in the wild for a bit over a year without problems |
| 18:20.14 | maroloccio | well, it is true also that online shops have dedicated sysadmins.. and often they just bring live patches they see relevant as they are discovered on support channels.. not just "apt-get update/upgrade"... |
| 18:20.29 | mrdeb | is it ok to always to dist-upgrade vs upgrade |
| 18:20.39 | mrdeb | it also includes kernel, yes? |
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| 18:20.52 | Th0masR0ss | mrdeb: yes |
| 18:21.03 | maroloccio | i have had this for 2.5 years at home in the past, yes. at work.. always debian. until my dying breath if i can choose (i am quite at ease with centos too, btw! i read all of the good redhat training manuals..) |
| 18:21.05 | mrdeb | ok thank you |
| 18:21.14 | abrotman | mrdeb: no one can know that without knowing your sources and the packages being installed/removed |
| 18:21.32 | mrdeb | only diff is kernel |
| 18:21.39 | abrotman | this time .. |
| 18:21.46 | abrotman | so "always" is a bit strong |
| 18:21.49 | daemonkeeper | maroloccio: Quite the contrary: Why would a professional sysadmin pick a system which will make them more work than others? If their choice is Debian, don't you think this is a pattern? :) |
| 18:21.55 | AnimalFarmPig | maroloccio, to clarify, I've been running Squeeze on servers "in the wild " for a bit over a year without security problems |
| 18:22.08 | daemonkeeper | That, of course, is pure luck. |
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| 18:22.28 | AnimalFarmPig | ^ |
| 18:22.30 | maroloccio | so.. kind of looking for an answer from people who used debian stable at home.. without managing the thing too much. "configure and forget" (which is not how you do things at work, of course). just cron of "update/upgrade".. what do you guys think about this? (i think scope is defined well enough now?) |
| 18:22.57 | daemonkeeper | Since the usual way to upgrade CentOS/RHEL is to reinstall, you answered this yourself. |
| 18:23.03 | maroloccio | AnimalFarmPig: thank you very much for qualifying your opinion. it helps :) |
| 18:23.34 | mrdeb | i mean over many years it always was |
| 18:23.53 | maroloccio | i think "in the wild" for the scope of this is "just connected to dsl line", which of course is not really how one would do things if one had the choice of using more equip.. |
| 18:24.06 | Devastator | maroloccio hire the guys who secure twitter... hum, that won't help |
| 18:24.10 | anonnumberanon | maroloccio, I don't know if this is relevant but there http://plusbryan.com/my-first-5-minutes-on-a-server-or-essential-security-for-linux-servers |
| 18:24.29 | maroloccio | quickly, this was up on HN a while back |
| 18:24.31 | maroloccio | i read that |
| 18:24.38 | maroloccio | as i said, i am not a novice at all.. |
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| 18:24.44 | Strife89 | 's Debian desktop at home is a champ. |
| 18:24.52 | anonnumberanon | I just tuned in, sorry |
| 18:25.15 | maroloccio | but to have a dedicated firewall is a nice luxury.. "just plug cable into dsl router" is a little "cowboy style" innit? |
| 18:25.27 | Strife89 | Literally the only time I've ever shut it down is for hardware changes and severe thunderstorms. |
| 18:26.19 | maroloccio | ok, so AnimalFarmPig is the only guy who kept a web server online for a while from home.. and, i gather, all you did was rely on cron + apt-get upgrade.. and all went fine? |
| 18:26.20 | AnimalFarmPig | maroloccio, I stepped into this conversation midway through, but you're asking about experiences with running Debian servers from home, specifically security? |
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| 18:26.56 | hikenboot | hello it appeas that my database (mysql) is active and alive but my apache2 web instance is unable to access it from localhost. I am sure of the server, password, can ping server ping localhost as well database info seems to indicate it is active and can access it via the command line |
| 18:26.59 | mrdeb | Strife89: how long do u run it without power off |
| 18:27.17 | hikenboot | anyone able to help? |
| 18:27.26 | AnimalFarmPig | maroloccio, my current set-up is a box running pfsense forwarding 80 to a Debian vm running nginx which reverse proxies to other Debian vm's running various web server software |
| 18:27.34 | maroloccio | correct: scope is - from home, dsl, automatic management (no dedicated sysadmin, "config and forget" - ouch!), apache2, dhtml, security (specifically: known vulnerabilities which are constantly tested against in internet "scans"..) i can make it even more restricted scope if it helps.. |
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| 18:28.13 | maroloccio | AnimalFarmPig: what is your vm platform? |
| 18:28.25 | AnimalFarmPig | maroloccio, okay. I'm not even particularly diligent on updating. I install stable, check every once in a while, but try to keep things as minimal as possible on my vm's |
| 18:28.37 | AnimalFarmPig | maroloccio, ESXi. The router is also a VM, if that matters... |
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| 18:28.39 | moof2 | maroloccio, I have also run a web server from a local machine... the main thing was I had a static IP and a domain name for it |
| 18:29.00 | maroloccio | moof2: local = home? |
| 18:29.14 | moof2 | no, someone's work |
| 18:29.34 | maroloccio | AnimalFarmPig: does ESX have a totally free version these days? (site does not make money, it cannot, of course, "cost" money) |
| 18:29.59 | AnimalFarmPig | maroloccio, when I look at my access.log, most of the scans are for vulnerabilities in specific applications-- not the webserver or operating system itself. So, don't install unsecure applications :) |
| 18:30.02 | maroloccio | i used ESX at work, again: paid version with support |
| 18:30.03 | Strife89 | mrdeb: Weeks, or even months. I suspend to RAM an awful lot, though. |
| 18:30.09 | moof2 | but we set them up with their network from an office upstairs |
| 18:30.25 | AnimalFarmPig | Free version works for up to 32 GB of RAM, 2 sockets. You lose a lot of features, but for basic VM stuff, it's fine, maroloccio |
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| 18:30.37 | mrdeb | is your power bill high |
| 18:30.38 | maroloccio | AnimalFarmPig: sure, every framework has his known vuln.. sometimes they nmap you first before launching a full scale attack |
| 18:30.50 | maroloccio | AnimalFarmPig: i did not know that, thank you |
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| 18:31.14 | Strife89 | mrdeb: For someone with an income like mine, it sure *feels* high. |
| 18:31.18 | maroloccio | well, it was very nice to talk w/ somebody who did exactly this.. on debian stable.. from home... |
| 18:31.49 | AnimalFarmPig | my server (PowerEdge 2950), home built NAS, and various network equipment are drawing about 375W 24/7. Going to replace the server soon... |
| 18:31.51 | Strife89 | "High" means more than two digits to the left of the decimal point. :< |
| 18:31.58 | moof2 | curious tho, when you say "from home" what are you assuming? dynamic IP? |
| 18:32.03 | maroloccio | i can use a laptop as well, i get a few hits per day. laptop = power savings. i do not right now, but i could (i probably should!) |
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| 18:32.48 | hikenboot | correction the command mysql --use=theusernamegoeshere --host=localhost --password=passwordgoeshere databasenamegoeshere gives me access is denied |
| 18:32.51 | maroloccio | well AnimalFarmPig your advice was pertinent, very detailed and extremely helpful, thank you. all you do, in summary, is cron apt-get, correct? "sometimes" you take a look.. but it's "config and forget" and it has stayed up for "months" |
| 18:32.57 | Strife89 | And besides, I don't have an Internet connection at home. Leaving the desktop running full blast benefits me in no way whatsoever. |
| 18:33.23 | maroloccio | if there is nobody else here running a home web server in the "open" (no openvpn, no NATP, etc.) i'll go with what AnimalFarmPig recommends? |
| 18:33.31 | maroloccio | last call.. anybody with some feedback? |
| 18:34.06 | AnimalFarmPig | maroloccio, more or less, yes. I think keeping it secure is more a factor of not installing insecure software, and using firewall, reverse proxy, and compartmentalization (in vm's). |
| 18:34.28 | maroloccio | reducing attack surface. i hear yu |
| 18:35.25 | maroloccio | your "firewall" is but netfilter with iptables -A rules, correct? |
| 18:35.38 | maroloccio | my home one always was... |
| 18:35.54 | AnimalFarmPig | maroloccio, I'm using pfsense right now, but in the past used iptables rules |
| 18:35.55 | maroloccio | just --jump ing to DROP for services i did not want visible online |
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| 18:36.29 | maroloccio | i suppose pfsense just for the convenience of it.. rather than "features"? |
| 18:36.31 | AnimalFarmPig | happy to no longer need to use iptables-- I always needed the man page open on a second monitor |
| 18:36.36 | AnimalFarmPig | yeah, convenience |
| 18:36.47 | AnimalFarmPig | also, it does damn good QoS |
| 18:38.14 | AnimalFarmPig | maroloccio, I'm sure there are people here with much more experience than me. I'm just kind of a hobbyist who likes running Debian, so others may have much better advice... |
| 18:38.42 | maroloccio | AnimalFarmPig: second monitor (tmux/screen :) |
| 18:39.04 | maroloccio | AnimalFarmPig: thanks. it has been a pleasure exchanging views with you. i have to split. |
| 18:39.11 | AnimalFarmPig | best regards |
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| 18:43.04 | phlux | AnimalFarmPig: No need for a second monitor! Use a tiling WM! |
| 18:43.55 | phlux | http://phluxbox.com/img/achai5.png <--a fine example |
| 18:44.10 | atannus | morning |
| 18:44.19 | phlux | afternoon ;) |
| 18:44.39 | Cultist | evening |
| 18:44.43 | moof2 | justbeforenoon! |
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| 18:50.18 | lolcakes | /j #debian-offtopic |
| 18:50.28 | lolcakes | oooops |
| 18:51.16 | penguin42 | anyone else seeing problems with rkhunter on wheezy not updating after recent security updates - it's moaning about my curl saying it's expecting the old signature; the signature it's reporting matches the curl -wheezy3 I've extracted on another box |
| 18:51.20 | penguin42 | this was all fine on sarge |
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| 18:52.41 | hikenboot | well figured it out some reason phpmyadmin granted permissions to % table instead of the actual table..I thought this was a wildcard and it would work, but apparently not! Thanks anyways have a great day! |
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| 18:59.22 | as_df | i have an i386 executable i'd like to run on amd64. right now it fails with ENOENT because of wrong ld-linux.so. before, i would just apt-get install ia32-libs, but that doesn't seem to work anymore |
| 18:59.47 | penguin42 | as_df: With multiarch you can install the normal i386 debs |
| 18:59.54 | as_df | except this executable is not available as a deb |
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| 19:00.05 | as_df | i can't even ldd it because it tells me "not a dynamic executable" |
| 19:00.07 | penguin42 | as_df: Yeh, but instead of installing ia32-libs you install libc6:i386 |
| 19:00.17 | penguin42 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:00.35 | penguin42 | as_df: http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
| 19:01.06 | penguin42 | as_df: It's great - much more selective about getting new packages and updates for the i386 stuff that ia32-libs never really handled |
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| 19:01.35 | as_df | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.36 | moof2 | as_df, the libs it needs might be available |
| 19:01.37 | as_df | ???:| |
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| 19:02.03 | as_df | why is it not resolving? am i missing APT::Architectures or something |
| 19:02.26 | moof2 | you would have to add the arch |
| 19:02.36 | as_df | yeah, dpkg --print-foreign-architectures gives me i386 |
| 19:03.01 | moof2 | ok, good... and you did apt-get update? |
| 19:03.06 | as_df | yeah |
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| 19:04.05 | moof2 | ok, it's just being stubborn... try putting that on the install line too |
| 19:04.31 | as_df | i decided to update apt in the hopes that that will make it unstubborn, even though the version i'm upgrading from is multiarch-aware |
| 19:04.37 | as_df | hopefully that helps |
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| 19:04.50 | penguin42 | yes, tell it you really mean it and won't take any rubbish from it! |
| 19:05.23 | moof2 | just add gcc:i386 |
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| 19:06.22 | penguin42 | ah no |
| 19:06.27 | penguin42 | as_df: Install libc6-i386 instead |
| 19:06.35 | penguin42 | libc is a bit special |
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| 19:06.56 | penguin42 | note the - not a : |
| 19:07.19 | moof2 | yeah,could you elaborate a bit on that? |
| 19:07.35 | penguin42 | moof2: Well, no - I'm not really sure why it is |
| 19:07.59 | penguin42 | moof2: But while most other packages work ok, I think you need that one for libc |
| 19:08.02 | moof2 | but as far as you know, you have to add that specifically? |
| 19:08.41 | penguin42 | yeh it's a vague memory that came to me in a cake induced haze |
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| 19:09.33 | ikarus | so what do I want if I want gnome 2 or atleast the identical user experience on a new Debian version ? |
| 19:09.44 | ikarus | Gnome 3 is crashing someone's brain here |
| 19:09.55 | as_df | penguin42: alriiight |
| 19:09.56 | penguin42 | ikarus: Personally I solve that by using Mate |
| 19:10.02 | as_df | penguin42: now i can ldd my executable and find my missing sos |
| 19:10.03 | penguin42 | ikarus: It's a straight fork of Gnome2 |
| 19:10.13 | as_df | penguin42: i still wish i could just install a catchall package though :P |
| 19:10.15 | moof2 | ok, so let's think about this... so if his arch is amd64, and he installs any package without qualifying, it would install the amd64 version of it... which would make libc6-i386 have -all or -amd64 |
| 19:10.25 | moof2 | that sound right? |
| 19:10.33 | penguin42 | ikarus: http://mate-desktop.org/ the only difference from Gnome2 is changes in some program names to stop clashes |
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| 19:11.08 | ikarus | penguin42: but not included in Debian appaerently |
| 19:11.15 | penguin42 | moof2: hmm not sure, oddly it does seem to be _amd64 libc6-i386_2.13-38_amd64.deb |
| 19:11.21 | penguin42 | ikarus: Correct, but mate-desktop.org has a repo |
| 19:12.00 | penguin42 | ikarus: See http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download |
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| 19:13.02 | penguin42 | ikarus: Works nicely; only 2 things to be careful of 1) If you've already got Gnome3 installed it can get a bit messy figuring out whether you're running a gnome3 app or correctly getting mate stuff 2) Mate do updates at some random point and it'll get updated when you might not have been expecting it |
| 19:13.43 | penguin42 | now, before I go an do this the hard way (and I asked last week on #emdebian) has anyone got a wheezy amd64-armhf cross build |
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| 19:19.23 | moof2 | penguin42, hard way? you mean building the whole cross env? |
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| 19:19.53 | penguin42 | nod |
| 19:20.06 | penguin42 | moof2: well, binutils and gcc |
| 19:20.55 | ikarus | penguin42: I guess I will out of necessity, LXDE and the like look too minimalistic to the intended users, Gnome 3 and current KDE look too bizarre to both them and me (I am a long term sawfish user myself) |
| 19:21.39 | penguin42 | ikarus: I switched to KDE - it's IMHO more like gnome2 but has a few rough edges, I use Mint on lower spec machines and on my dads machines |
| 19:21.48 | moof2 | I liked sawmill/fish! |
| 19:22.26 | penguin42 | ikarus: On the basis my dad uses Mint without moaning it must be the same as Gnome2 |
| 19:22.27 | AnimalFarmPig | ikarus, gnome3 is a little bit weird, but I've found myself getting used to it. I was playing with a distro earlier this week that shipped Gnome 2, and found myself missing features-- like the snap-to-sides and moving mouse to top left and typing to load programs. |
| 19:22.58 | AnimalFarmPig | the way gnome 3 does workspaces is also very nice |
| 19:23.18 | penguin42 | AnimalFarmPig: That's what I didn't like in early gnome 3, not looked at it recently |
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| 19:23.39 | ikarus | AnimalFarmPig: I'll decide where I want snaps, etc |
| 19:23.46 | ikarus | it's just too unconfigurable |
| 19:23.56 | ikarus | and with the menu you keep just typing stuff to launch it |
| 19:24.06 | ikarus | as navigating it is a bitch |
| 19:24.24 | ikarus | I use Gnome 3 at some boxes at work |
| 19:24.40 | AnimalFarmPig | I kind of like typing, but I can understand why you wouldn't. Guess that's why we have lots of different desktop environments :) |
| 19:25.01 | AnimalFarmPig | I agree about the lack of configurability |
| 19:25.03 | ikarus | AnimalFarmPig: if I want typing I prefer Sawfish which I can configure :) |
| 19:25.06 | AnimalFarmPig | kind of annoying |
| 19:25.15 | penguin42 | ikarus: KDE you can configure most stuff |
| 19:25.16 | AnimalFarmPig | I'll check it out |
| 19:25.24 | ikarus | my sawfish is a hybrid tiling WM after all the scripting I hung off of it |
| 19:25.30 | marcusk | Gnome 3 is actually very configurable, it's just that the GUI doesn't relay that. |
| 19:25.35 | ikarus | penguin42: not looking for something for me, but for other people |
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| 19:25.41 | ikarus | penguin42: hence mate will do the trick |
| 19:25.44 | penguin42 | ikarus: Nod |
| 19:25.50 | ikarus | they are used to Gnome 2 for ages |
| 19:26.06 | ikarus | and Gnome 2 just seems to make sense for semi-serious computer use |
| 19:26.13 | ikarus | bit more then just webbrowsing |
| 19:26.21 | penguin42 | ikarus: It works, and it's fast, doesn't need GL to work |
| 19:26.22 | AnimalFarmPig | marcusk, any good resources I could check out or GUI tools for doing so? |
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| 19:26.52 | ikarus | penguin42: do you happen to know if a sensible version of gdm is also in mate ? |
| 19:26.54 | marcusk | AnimalFarmPig: Nome that I'm aware of, you have to do manual hacking. |
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| 19:27.03 | AnimalFarmPig | got it, diving into gconf files :) |
| 19:27.21 | penguin42 | ikarus: Hmm not sure, I've not had too many problems with gdm |
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| 19:27.57 | AnimalFarmPig | I wish I could get the shortcut keys on the left side of my Sun Type 7 keyboard working in Gnome3-- 'cut','copy','paste','stop','open',etc. |
| 19:28.20 | penguin42 | they can't be that hard - do you get key codes for them? |
| 19:28.24 | AnimalFarmPig | it seems like they took out a bunch of features going between gdm and gdm3 |
| 19:28.44 | AnimalFarmPig | penguin42, yeah, they have keycodes, but don't see a way to bind those key codes to copy, paste, etc. |
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| 19:29.19 | penguin42 | would know how to do that in KDE :-) I'm sure there is a way in gnome3 (* Note sureness isn't that great a guide to reality) |
| 19:29.28 | marcusk | We switched to kdm which gdm3. Apparently reading ~/.dmrc to figure out which session the user wants is bad, and storing it per machine in /var is good. Well, not so great if you're in a network environment like this. |
| 19:29.30 | AnimalFarmPig | keycodes like <XF86Copy> <XF86Paste> etc |
| 19:30.04 | penguin42 | marcusk: Yeh people seem to have forgotten about networked homes |
| 19:30.06 | marcusk | Lightdm was OK at first, but they have gone with the gdm route as well. |
| 19:30.24 | AnimalFarmPig | they seem to have removed xdmcp completely from gdm3 |
| 19:30.45 | marcusk | penguin42: Not just networked homes. We have a few hundred Debian workstations with thousands of users. |
| 19:31.36 | penguin42 | marcusk: Ah that's always fun - does it do something dumb like try to automount every home directory and then read a picture from each? |
| 19:33.00 | marcusk | penguin42: No but we had problems with tracker something, it wanted to index every file it found. And started accessing everybodys home directory over NFS before we figured it out and purged it. |
| 19:33.26 | penguin42 | marcusk: Haha yes, seen that as well |
| 19:33.38 | marcusk | The greetar was quite funny to watch thou when it tried to list every user in a long list. =) |
| 19:33.54 | penguin42 | marcusk: Nod, people don't learn - these problems were solved 20 years ago |
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| 19:39.46 | monod | I guess it's gnome3 the reason why is so, and not debian themes, right? |
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| 20:16.36 | Luke-Jr | what's the recommended system profiler, now that oprofile is gone? :/ |
| 20:17.19 | penguin42 | perf is lovely |
| 20:17.24 | olga_ | I have a problem with lightdm. It wont start on boot. If i start it manually, it works. I reconfiured and the entry exists in default-display-manager |
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| 20:17.40 | penguin42 | olga_: check /var/log/lightdm to see what broke |
| 20:18.29 | olga_ | penguin42, dir is empty |
| 20:18.36 | penguin42 | hmm, that's erm a shame |
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| 20:19.43 | olga_ | penguin42, what can i do? |
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| 20:20.28 | Luke-Jr | penguin42: but perf isn't a package…? :/ |
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| 20:20.46 | penguin42 | Luke-Jr: It's part of linux-tools |
| 20:20.56 | Luke-Jr | hmm, ok |
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| 20:21.34 | penguin42 | Luke-Jr: perf record /bin/ls perf report does for simple stuff, lots more options, perf top is nice as well |
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| 20:21.50 | penguin42 | Luke-Jr: Although it keeps getting better kind of exponentially so the older perf's are a bit crap |
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| 20:22.14 | Luke-Jr | I need to figure out why a specific thread in a many-thread program is using so much CPU time |
| 20:22.23 | Luke-Jr | without interrupting or slowing it down |
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| 20:22.36 | penguin42 | yeh perf can do that |
| 20:22.52 | penguin42 | Luke-Jr: You can set the sample rate to stop it slowing down |
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| 20:23.26 | penguin42 | Luke-Jr: perf report has a tui mode where you can zoom in on a specific thread (erm not sure if debian builds it with the tui mode - give it a go) |
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| 20:30.13 | norbert_ | hi, this is a php question, but I need help from smart people |
| 20:30.26 | norbert_ | someone's code says "if ($variable =@ $variable)" |
| 20:30.29 | norbert_ | what does that mean? |
| 20:30.38 | norbert_ | Google isn't allowing me to search for it |
| 20:30.43 | norbert_ | and ##php is not useful at all |
| 20:30.52 | norbert_ | all these people keep saying is "maybe it's a typo" |
| 20:30.56 | norbert_ | anyone? :( |
| 20:31.36 | penguin42 | doesn't know php |
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| 20:34.31 | Bijan-E | norbert_, i think it's a typo but the = and @ are awfully distance a lot :-/ |
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| 20:35.03 | norbert_ | it's not a typo, the code works and it's used throughout the code, 10+ locations |
| 20:35.06 | Bijan-E | norbert_, but i recommend to ask it in the #php channel |
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| 20:35.41 | AimHere | norbert_, might it be defined in the code somewhere? Or might it be equivalent to ($variable = @$variable)? |
| 20:36.11 | norbert_ | AimHere: it's probably equivalent to = @$ |
| 20:36.14 | AimHere | Doesn't seem to be an operator looking like that in the PHP reference |
| 20:36.15 | norbert_ | what does that do? |
| 20:36.31 | file-exists-p | hi all. How comes when I start xterm, I see in strace log plenty of EAGAIN when it accesses /proc/meminfo ? |
| 20:36.49 | ompaul | norbert_: this is offtopic just saying --- also note if it's not in the php handbook ask the author of the piece |
| 20:36.50 | file-exists-p | 117 to be precise |
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| 20:37.35 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: I'm wondering if that's just an artifact of strace slowing it down, if it's getting lots of signals while reading meminfo |
| 20:37.55 | ompaul | file-exists-p: It means "there is no data available right now, try again later". |
| 20:37.55 | kanliot | @ in php will suppress errors |
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| 20:38.10 | file-exists-p | hm |
| 20:38.16 | norbert_ | kanliot: yup, but it appears to be used differently here |
| 20:38.21 | ompaul | file-exists-p: non blocking i/o |
| 20:38.31 | penguin42 | ompaul: oddly surprising for a /proc file like meminfo ? |
| 20:38.39 | norbert_ | AimHere: I know it's off-topic, but Google and #php have been of no help, can you tell me what = @$ does? |
| 20:38.46 | norbert_ | (in an if statement, I mean) |
| 20:39.05 | daemonkeeper | Just because other channels are unhelpful it does not make your question appropriate in here. |
| 20:39.12 | file-exists-p | ompaul: I straced xterm because when I start it from a vm, it takes ages to start, and I also found firefox slow the other day and there was plenty of similar error in the strace. it may be totally unrelated? |
| 20:39.46 | norbert_ | omg, I found it; http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2257460/why-does-php-have-a-sign-in-front-of-variables |
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| 20:40.00 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: What about something simple like strace cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 20:40.03 | norbert_ | ehm, never mind that |
| 20:40.09 | norbert_ | *sigh* |
| 20:40.13 | norbert_ | yeah, I'll go back to #php |
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| 20:40.22 | kanliot | man that sounds bad slow xterm |
| 20:40.31 | ompaul | file-exists-p: first instance why didn't you say vm - second - it may be a factor of resources you have given to the VM the hardware may be older / slower than you think and the host may be blocking access with stuff it's doing |
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| 20:41.14 | ompaul | file-exists-p: happy step by step investigation and why firefox nothing to do with debian |
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| 20:41.41 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: The only EAGAINs I'm seeing are on fd 3 on my xterm, and they're on the X socket I think |
| 20:42.23 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: And is this the xterm process or one of the subprocesses ? |
| 20:42.47 | file-exists-p | penguin: "strace 2> log xterm" |
| 20:43.34 | penguin42 | hmm I don't think that recurses into the child without an -f |
| 20:43.39 | file-exists-p | grep 'EAGAIN' log|wc -l tells me 124 |
| 20:43.52 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: OK, and how are you tieing that to /proc/meminfo ? |
| 20:44.18 | file-exists-p | penguin42 because it's on fh 4, which seems to be the results of an open on /proc/meminfo |
| 20:44.33 | penguin42 | hmm ok |
| 20:44.38 | file-exists-p | ~ grep ^open log|grep 4$|tail -1 |
| 20:44.38 | file-exists-p | open("/proc/meminfo", O_RDONLY) = 4 |
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| 20:45.09 | kanliot | maybe it's vmware taking a crap on u |
| 20:45.18 | file-exists-p | this one is not in a vm |
| 20:45.26 | penguin42 | vm shouldn't do that to it |
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| 20:45.44 | file-exists-p | okay, so my take home message is that it is weird? |
| 20:45.46 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: Worth making sure it hasn't been closed before the EAGAINs you're seeing |
| 20:45.52 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: I think so |
| 20:47.05 | file-exists-p | weird, there is indeed a close(4) |
| 20:47.19 | penguin42 | ah ok - so show me one of the lines with the EAGAIN |
| 20:47.46 | file-exists-p | read(4, 0x1145b14, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) |
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| 20:48.10 | penguin42 | ok, now to search backward to see who 4 is |
| 20:48.25 | file-exists-p | but beside open() what should I look for? |
| 20:48.26 | kanliot | file-exists-p, i think your problem is way to vague to diagnose |
| 20:48.58 | file-exists-p | ah! |
| 20:48.59 | file-exists-p | sorry, socket |
| 20:49.05 | file-exists-p | socket(PF_FILE, SOCK_STREAM|SOCK_CLOEXEC, 0) = 4 |
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| 20:49.17 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: Ah right, that's probably the scoket to X (for me it seems to be 3) |
| 20:49.34 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: And that's quite normal, it just means it got some data from X but less than 4k |
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| 20:49.44 | file-exists-p | ah ok! thanks |
| 20:49.53 | brolin_empey | http://www.flickr.com/photos/brolin_empey/sets/72157634511837947/ |
| 20:50.04 | file-exists-p | so that makes sense |
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| 20:51.23 | penguin42 | yeh keeping track of the fd's when reading strace/ltrace outputs is a bit tricky |
| 20:51.28 | file-exists-p | yes |
| 20:51.47 | file-exists-p | but there is still something fishy going on, probably related to my xserver |
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| 20:51.57 | file-exists-p | it takes ages to start an xterm from a vm running on the same machine |
| 20:52.00 | hikenboot | question is the ca-buncle.crt file the one that is located in /usr/share/ncat/ or is this a different one |
| 20:52.14 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: you mean remote over DISPLAY= ? |
| 20:52.14 | file-exists-p | then it is not particularly slow |
| 20:52.15 | hikenboot | for use with ssl |
| 20:52.17 | file-exists-p | yes |
| 20:52.34 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: Hmm shouldn't |
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| 20:52.50 | file-exists-p | somehting like 4s |
| 20:52.58 | file-exists-p | xlogo starts immediately |
| 20:53.00 | penguin42 | hang on |
| 20:53.10 | altker128 | Hey all. I'm running Debian Wheezy and I'd like to have GRUB use /dev/sda mappings instead of GUID ; this is for a server. Is there an easy way to do this? Editing the /boot/grub/grub.cfg doesn't persist if update-grub is used. |
| 20:53.16 | file-exists-p | emacs starts more quickly than xterm ... |
| 20:53.33 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: One oddity of xterm is it's setuid so is a bit odd |
| 20:53.38 | `26 | file-exists-p: seriously? |
| 20:53.46 | file-exists-p | yes |
| 20:53.53 | file-exists-p | let me install rxvt |
| 20:53.55 | penguin42 | oh, not suid any more |
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| 20:54.21 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: Be careful whether it's xterm or whether it's the shell running in it |
| 20:54.26 | file-exists-p | rxvt starts quickly |
| 20:55.38 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: ah, I haven't got TCP open on my hosts X server to try it |
| 20:55.44 | moof2 | altker128, anything interesting in /etc/default/grub? |
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| 20:56.04 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: Under 2 seconds here via ssh -X |
| 20:56.15 | altker128 | moof2: Not that I can tell, it looks completely stock / default |
| 20:56.34 | altker128 | moof2: I'm on Debian Wheezy , not an Ubuntu. |
| 20:57.03 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: date; xterm -e "bash -c 'date;read x'" shows 1 second difference - ubuntu saucy host, debian wheezy guest via ssh -X |
| 20:57.19 | altker128 | moof2: Hrm....#GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true |
| 20:57.27 | jhutchins | altker128: You mean UUID, riht? |
| 20:57.44 | altker128 | jhutchins: Yeah, sorry. |
| 20:58.10 | blubberdiblub | altker128, why do you want to disable UUIDs anyway? it's more safe using UUIDs. the ordering of the detected drives could change anytime |
| 20:58.50 | altker128 | blubberdiblub: I know some people may not agree, but UUID is great for desktops terrible for servers. I don't add or remove drives to my server, ever. |
| 20:58.55 | jhutchins | altker128: That should be fine, the main reason for switching to UUID was that in systems with mixed ATA/SATA drives they'd often detect in different orders when booting. |
| 20:59.07 | brolin_empey | moof2: Does your nick(name) refer to (Clarus) the dogcow? |
| 20:59.09 | altker128 | jhutchins: Understood , especially bad with SCSI, ATA/PATA in the same system |
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| 20:59.33 | blubberdiblub | altker128, it's not terrible for servers. it's just as fine as it is for desktops |
| 20:59.36 | altker128 | jhutchins: So I've uncommented "GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true" and ran update-grub and the /boot/grub/grub.cfg is still using UUID |
| 20:59.42 | file-exists-p | penguin42: thx for your help, I will investigate a bit more |
| 20:59.47 | moof2 | brolin_empey, no, just to the sound he makes |
| 20:59.48 | file-exists-p | penguin42: cheers! |
| 20:59.54 | penguin42 | file-exists-p: No problem |
| 21:00.04 | altker128 | blubberdiblub: I need to migrate from one HDD to another, and updating all the references is a waste of time. Server is single-drive |
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| 21:01.02 | Devastator | ,v xfce |
| 21:01.03 | judd | No package named 'xfce' was found in i386. |
| 21:01.06 | jhutchins | altker128: Sorry, not sure what grub2 wants to use the old numeric notation. |
| 21:01.07 | Devastator | hum.. |
| 21:01.20 | jhutchins | ,v xfce4 |
| 21:01.22 | judd | Package: xfce4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.6.2; wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; sid: 4.10.1 |
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| 21:01.37 | altker128 | jhutchins: My eye caught the line "search" which is still using the UUID , but the boot path is now using the /dev/sd<x> mapping |
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| 21:02.28 | daveee123 | using debian with gnome3. cannot get sound to go through the mini hdmi port on the gtx 555 graphics card. any ideas? |
| 21:02.39 | Dion | ^ Use Windows 8 |
| 21:02.48 | moof2 | altker128, so the search would succeed on one of your drives and fail on others... not sure if a failed search would make grub fail |
| 21:02.48 | daveee123 | burn |
| 21:03.09 | altker128 | moof2: Can I tell the search to use dev mapping if I drop --fs-uuid? |
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| 21:03.40 | jhutchins | daveee123: About the most useful suggestion I can make is "remove pulseaudio", but that's not specific to your problem. Might try googling alsa and your chipset. |
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| 21:04.04 | moof2 | I thought the purpose of the search was to find the partition's /dev/something given a uuid |
| 21:04.24 | moof2 | if that's the case who needs to search (well in your case) |
| 21:05.06 | daveee123 | jhutchins: and replace it with anything? |
| 21:05.09 | jhutchins | altker128: You meay be the bleeding edge on this, the best we can probably tell you is "try it and see". You seem to be doing well so far. |
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| 21:05.39 | jhutchins | daveee123: pulseaudio is a solution to problems most people don't have that causes more problems than it solves. |
| 21:06.13 | jhutchins | daveee123: Most systems work just fine with alsa alone. |
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| 21:08.24 | moof2 | altker128, maybe you should try commenting out the search line and then trying to boot |
| 21:08.29 | `26 | pa used to cause lots of problems back on ubuntu (to the extent of having a panel launcher that killed it and restarted it). ever since I got on debian, it's worked perfectly |
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| 21:09.02 | moof2 | the purpose there being, to see if the rest of the config is working |
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| 21:13.33 | moof2 | altker128, still here? |
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| 21:16.30 | altker128 | moof2: Yes, sorry, phone |
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| 21:17.09 | moof2 | np... curious where you're at. |
| 21:17.19 | moof2 | with the boot thing, anything working? |
| 21:17.48 | moof2 | oh, are you still on the phone? |
| 21:18.55 | altker128 | moof2: Yes, sorry, one minute |
| 21:19.38 | moof2 | np. thanks for letting me know (no reply needed) |
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| 21:27.17 | imdea | anyone knows how could I repair this: /usr/bin/dpkg: symbol lookup error: /usr/bin/dpkg: undefined symbol: is_selinux_enabled ? |
| 21:27.26 | imdea | it's a debian wheezy box |
| 21:28.16 | altker128 | moof2: The grub.cfg has the search with the --fs-uuid, so the grub scripts are generating it |
| 21:28.33 | ompaul | imdea: when did you last do a dist-upgrade on that box>? |
| 21:29.09 | imdea | ompaul, some days ago |
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| 21:32.20 | imdea | ompaul, why? |
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| 21:32.50 | ompaul | imdea: what does `cat /etc/debian_version` say |
| 21:33.02 | freaky[t]_ | is anyone here familiar with osticket? i need to know, how can i let osticket send an email to all staff members when someone already answered a ticket of the staff |
| 21:33.12 | imdea | ompaul, 7.1 |
| 21:33.31 | Luke-Jr | how can I tell cron to run @reboot jobs manually? |
| 21:33.35 | Luke-Jr | to test |
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| 21:34.05 | ompaul | imdea: I have no idea where or what services you do or don't have enabled so my only idea about an old bug is now exhausted |
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| 21:34.49 | imdea | ompaul, so no idea how to fix it? |
| 21:34.51 | ompaul | Luke-Jr: @reboot .... do you mean test for jobs running and if not restart them or restart the machine |
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| 21:35.15 | Luke-Jr | ompaul: I mean trigger cron to execute all @reboot entries without actually rebooting |
| 21:35.17 | ompaul | imdea: not now - but then it asks you a question did you install selinux |
| 21:35.39 | imdea | ompaul, no |
| 21:35.49 | Luke-Jr | ompaul: @reboot jobs are run when the system boots normally |
| 21:35.51 | ompaul | imdea: when did it stop working |
| 21:36.23 | imdea | ompaul, I upgraded it to wheezy and then I had to do a hard reset of the machine |
| 21:36.25 | ompaul | Luke-Jr: service foo restart |
| 21:36.29 | imdea | there it stopped working |
| 21:36.38 | imdea | i had to run fsck on the fs |
| 21:36.47 | ompaul | imdea: that's all very bad |
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| 21:37.18 | Luke-Jr | ompaul: didn't do it |
| 21:37.30 | ompaul | Luke-Jr: but tbh if you are doing all those things I'd be inclined to just run reboot in crontab ... but under what conditions no idea |
| 21:37.31 | imdea | ompaul, I know,,, that is why I want to fix it |
| 21:37.32 | blubberdiblub | Luke-Jr, delete /run/crond.reboot and restart the service |
| 21:37.42 | Luke-Jr | blubberdiblub: aha |
| 21:37.55 | Luke-Jr | ompaul: I don't want the system to reboot |
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| 21:38.35 | ompaul | Luke-Jr: I know, I'm just slightly confused because you need to get the order of some events right or the box will whine it's going to be a scheduling nightmare if you have a lot of stuff running there |
| 21:39.23 | ompaul | imdea: given it's failed dist-upgrade what were you upgrading from? |
| 21:39.25 | ompaul | lenny? |
| 21:39.30 | ompaul | squeeze? |
| 21:40.02 | imdea | yes, but I guess the upgrade got completed |
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| 21:40.43 | ompaul | imdea: not if it didn't reboot - not to discount the possiblity of something horrid happening to hardware at the same time - do you have firmware-linux-nonfree installed? |
| 21:41.00 | ompaul | imdea: what were you saying yes to |
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| 21:41.14 | imdea | ompaul, I was saying yes that I was upgrading from squeeze |
| 21:41.48 | imdea | ompaul, don't know if I have firmware-linux-nonfree because it's a virtual machine... |
| 21:41.59 | Luke-Jr | blubberdiblub: thanks, that worked excellent |
| 21:42.04 | ompaul | imdea: what kind of virtual machine |
| 21:42.10 | blubberdiblub | Luke-Jr, you're welcome |
| 21:42.19 | Luke-Jr | now, how can I avoid clearing /run at boot, or at least recreate a user-owned directory? <.< |
| 21:42.21 | altker128 | moof2: The search line might be controlled by /boot/grub/device.map |
| 21:42.23 | imdea | ompaul, what do you mean by what kind of virtual machine? |
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| 21:42.45 | ompaul | imdea: vbox vmware xen kem something else |
| 21:42.58 | imdea | xen |
| 21:42.59 | ompaul | *kvm |
| 21:43.10 | ompaul | imdea: I hope the host was preupgraded |
| 21:43.19 | daemonkeeper | ompaul: are something and else a hypervisors on its own? |
| 21:43.34 | ompaul | daemonkeeper: hehe |
| 21:43.41 | imdea | ompaul, preupgraded? |
| 21:43.47 | ompaul | daemonkeeper: you made me laugh you now own it :P |
| 21:43.54 | ompaul | hides in front of daemonkeeper |
| 21:44.10 | ompaul | imdea: you have the kernel sitting on the host |
| 21:44.11 | altker128 | moof2: Hrm, that fixed the set root , still not sure how to deal with the search line |
| 21:44.36 | imdea | ompaul, ??? I don't understand.. |
| 21:44.42 | ompaul | imdea: also you know the kernels for xen have to be xen kernels |
| 21:44.52 | ompaul | not just any old debian kernel |
| 21:45.02 | imdea | ompaul, that machine was running a xen kernel |
| 21:45.05 | imdea | of course |
| 21:45.07 | ompaul | and now |
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| 21:45.55 | daveee123 | to install a second desktop environment, can i just do "sudo apt-get install KDE"? |
| 21:46.05 | imdea | look, my dom0 |
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| 21:46.15 | imdea | is running 3.2.0-4-686-pae |
| 21:46.24 | Devastator | is there any glxgears comparison chart? |
| 21:46.31 | imdea | and that machine was not running that one, but 2.6.32-5-xen-686 instead |
| 21:46.35 | daemonkeeper | glxgears is not a benchmark |
| 21:46.36 | imdea | because I never rebooted |
| 21:46.37 | imdea | it |
| 21:46.39 | daemonkeeper | !glxgears |
| 21:46.39 | dpkg | rumour has it, glxgears is an OpenGL demo, or <bogomips> for graphics cards. It is not a benchmark. In fact, in recent versions you must pass it the -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark option in order to report FPS information. Provided by the mesa-utils package. |
| 21:46.45 | ompaul | daveee123: kde-full |
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| 21:47.09 | daveee123 | ompaul: why -full, what are the other options? |
| 21:47.30 | ompaul | daveee123: apt-cache search kde | less |
| 21:48.03 | ompaul | imdea: I'm out of ideas since it wasn't a bug - then I got a mad idea which seems to fail |
| 21:48.44 | Devastator | daemonkeeper what do you recommend for benchmark? |
| 21:48.59 | imdea | ompaul, do you think that if I reboot the dom0 and boot it up with kernel 2.6.32-5-xen then it could work? |
| 21:49.00 | imdea | :S |
| 21:49.05 | Devastator | I'm curious to see if 3D accel is rather working or not |
| 21:49.09 | Technodrome | does debian still have the vserver packages anymore? |
| 21:49.11 | Technodrome | i don't see them |
| 21:49.41 | ompaul | no I think if you had -xen on your kernel name in the current beast it might work |
| 21:50.19 | imdea | ompaul, yes but I mean, I'm running Xen with this kernel, since I have other virtual machines running fine |
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| 21:50.55 | ompaul | imdea: then the lack of consistency for this idea, is that this idea seems to have run it's course and I have no further ideas |
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| 21:51.16 | Technodrome | debian doesn't use grub anymore? |
| 21:51.24 | ompaul | Technodrome: it uses grub2 |
| 21:51.39 | Technodrome | i need a /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 21:51.58 | ompaul | Technodrome: install lenny in a vm and check it out |
| 21:52.09 | Technodrome | i've got debian 7 on right now |
| 21:52.14 | ompaul | Technodrome: install lenny in a vm and check it out |
| 21:52.16 | imdea | ompaul, uh? |
| 21:52.22 | Technodrome | so there is no menu.lst anymore? |
| 21:52.24 | ompaul | imdea: I've nothing further to add |
| 21:52.29 | ompaul | Technodrome: correct |
| 21:52.31 | imdea | ompaul, ok |
| 21:52.47 | ompaul | dpkg: tell Technodrome about grub |
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| 21:53.02 | ompaul | Technodrome: check out the bots pm |
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| 21:53.21 | Luke-Jr | somehow, my /run/housectl directory is being deleted every reboot. any ideas how to stop it? |
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| 21:56.40 | daveee123 | ompaul: why kde-full, what are the other options? |
| 21:56.40 | Technodrome | let me see if this works |
| 21:56.55 | ompaul | daveee123: I told you how to find out |
| 21:56.58 | Technodrome | i don't really need grub i don't think |
| 21:56.59 | Technodrome | just the file |
| 21:57.04 | ompaul | daveee123: apt-cache search kde | less |
| 21:57.12 | daveee123 | ompaul: oops, sorry. and thanks |
| 21:57.31 | ompaul | no worries |
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| 21:59.39 | NSA | Hi FOlks. What file in /etc/apt/ do I edit to replace a mirror site with another? |
| 22:00.14 | Technodrome | fuck me it worked |
| 22:01.18 | naquad | http://slim-lang.com/ - is there something like this for python? i really don't like to write html :( |
| 22:01.20 | naquad | oops |
| 22:01.22 | naquad | wrong channel |
| 22:01.24 | naquad | sorry |
| 22:01.46 | altker128 | moof2: You here? |
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| 22:02.55 | Technodrome | xen vps's work kinda funny |
| 22:05.35 | brontosaurusrex | NSA, sources.list ? |
| 22:06.15 | Devastator | any reliable tool to benchmark a videocard? glxgears seems not to be used.. |
| 22:06.35 | NSA | knods at brontosaurusrex |
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| 22:07.28 | altker128 | Ok, any other grub2 experts here? |
| 22:07.36 | Luke-Jr | Devastator: BFGMiner :P |
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| 22:08.21 | Devastator | Luke-Jr my card isn't bfg, and I'm only trying to check if 3D accel is enabled or not |
| 22:08.31 | Technodrome | pv-grub is baller |
| 22:08.53 | altker128 | BTW, grub2 sucks. |
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| 22:09.17 | Luke-Jr | Devastator: BFGMiner works with any AMD/nvidia GPU (although the latter suck); for just checking 3D, no benchmark is needed |
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| 22:09.25 | Luke-Jr | xdriinfo |
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| 22:10.03 | Devastator | xdriinfo reports Screen 0: noveau |
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| 22:11.08 | Devastator | I can't get reliable info about how much fps this card is supposed to report.. glxgears gave me about 525fps |
| 22:11.24 | bcdonadio | why is "ip6tables -A INPUT -m conntrack --ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT" giving me "ip6tables: Protocol wrong type for socket." on Debian 7? |
| 22:12.19 | altker128 | moof2: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1530532&page=2&p=9585964#post9585964 |
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| 22:14.20 | Technodrome | Type <Ctrl+a q> to exit the console, <Ctrl+a Ctrl+a> to enter Ctrl+a itself |
| 22:14.27 | Technodrome | this isn't working? hmmm |
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| 22:14.40 | Technodrome | what is Crtl+a Crtl+a to you guys? |
| 22:15.38 | Th0masR0ss | A typo. |
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| 22:15.38 | Th0masR0ss | Two typos, actually |
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| 22:16.09 | Technodrome | Th0masR0ss: oh ok |
| 22:16.38 | Technodrome | anyways control a and control a isn't letting me in |
| 22:16.52 | Th0masR0ss | into where, |
| 22:16.54 | Th0masR0ss | ?* |
| 22:17.00 | Technodrome | this is for lxc-containers |
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| 22:17.47 | Th0masR0ss | Odd how they repeated themselves. |
| 22:18.09 | Th0masR0ss | Why ctrl+a twice? |
| 22:18.35 | fnordperfect | Hi! I just switched from an AMD CPU to an Intel-based system, but I'd really like to keep my Debian installation. How do I tell apt and dpkg about the architecture change? I already did dpkg --add-architecture ia64, so it's available as a "foreign architecture"... now what? |
| 22:18.47 | Technodrome | Th0masR0ss: its not working either way |
| 22:19.10 | Th0masR0ss | Technodrome: I have no idea. |
| 22:19.19 | tensorpudding | Wait, you want to migrate from x86-ish to Itanium? |
| 22:20.00 | blubberdiblub | fnordperfect, chances are your intel cpu is actually "amd64". what cpu is it, specifically? |
| 22:20.17 | blubberdiblub | !tell fnordperfect about amd64 |
| 22:20.37 | fnordperfect | it's an core2 quad |
| 22:20.46 | tensorpudding | That's amd64 you want then. |
| 22:21.01 | daveee123 | what is debian lenny? why is it named lenny? |
| 22:21.06 | epsilon | fnordperfect: ia64/itanium is a very special server-CPU. If oyu have common intel Desktop/Xeon CPU, you acn run the same amd64 |
| 22:21.28 | fnordperfect | oh, I see. well, that's confusing, but thanks for clearing that up :-) |
| 22:21.46 | tensorpudding | The quick rule is: if it normally runs Windows 7 and isn't a tablet, you want amd64. |
| 22:22.01 | epsilon | lol |
| 22:22.01 | tensorpudding | err, if it can run Windows 7 |
| 22:22.56 | tensorpudding | Actually I don't know if Windows 7 can run on ARM, but Windows 8 seems to be able to. |
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| 22:23.09 | NSA | amd64 rock |
| 22:23.21 | NSA | s |
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| 22:24.27 | altker128 | daveee123: Look up Debian on Wikipedia. Releases are named after characters in Toy Story. |
| 22:24.39 | Technodrome | i think i need both control keys |
| 22:24.41 | Technodrome | and i only have 1 |
| 22:25.02 | Th0masR0ss | !tell daveee123 about release history |
| 22:25.36 | daveee123 | thanks altker128 and Th0masR0ss |
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| 22:25.45 | daveee123 | and thanks dpkg |
| 22:25.50 | daveee123 | dpkg: thanks |
| 22:25.50 | dpkg | daveee123: pas de quoi |
| 22:25.53 | Th0masR0ss | Lol |
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| 22:31.10 | daveee123 | upon installing debian. the installer said i was missing this proprietary firmware: rtl_nic/rtl8168e-3.fw , but everything is working fine. should i worry about it? |
| 22:31.39 | penguin42 | daveee123: Your ether may not work |
| 22:31.40 | altker128 | daveee123: That's probably for yours wireless |
| 22:32.16 | daveee123 | penguin42: altker128: wireless works. it may be the ethernet |
| 22:32.32 | daveee123 | i'll test it when i get a long enough cord |
| 22:32.36 | penguin42 | yeh 8168 is gige |
| 22:33.04 | twinkie_addict | i had no issues with the installer in stable or testing but im running an ateros card for both wifi and ethernet |
| 22:33.06 | daveee123 | is that fixed by just finding the firmware online? or for the mobo? |
| 22:33.10 | penguin42 | daveee123: Just find the firmware package and you'll be fine |
| 22:33.20 | daveee123 | penguin42: alright. thanks |
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| 22:33.55 | epsilon | daveee123: can the installer fetch packages from internet? |
| 22:34.36 | daveee123 | epsilon: yea, but through the wireless card. i have never plugged in an ethernet cable. |
| 22:34.50 | twinkie_addict | it installes over network yes just get the netinstall |
| 22:34.55 | daveee123 | epsilon: i had no wifi when i was first installling everything though |
| 22:35.03 | daveee123 | twinkie_addict: will do |
| 22:35.33 | epsilon | then it's all fine, install the missing (closed source) firmware after the installation is complete |
| 22:35.40 | daveee123 | and thanks to this entire IRC. got my first PC build done. and everything is looking real pretty. fuck yea open source. |
| 22:35.44 | twinkie_addict | i used the daily snapshot jessie is working great |
| 22:36.44 | babilen | A lot of wireless adaptors works just fine during the installation *if* one provides firmware. You can either download the firmware and put it on a removable medium or the second partition (if installing from USB) or use an installer with firmware. See <install debian> <installer firmware> and <firmware images> for details. (/msg dpkg install debian) |
| 22:37.50 | babilen | I wouldn't recommend to use the dailies/weeklies. There is absolutely no need to use a testing installer at this point in the release cycle. It is not meant for installing testing anyway (but for testing the installer) and we recommend to install wheezy and take it from there at this time. |
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| 22:49.41 | altker128 | moof2: I just modified one of the scripts referenced in the Ubuntu guide it not longer generates a search |
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| 23:00.02 | compy_ | hello channel |
| 23:00.23 | compy_ | i formated my usb for a live install a while back, does anyone know how to format it back? |
| 23:01.01 | compy_ | checks the idle clock |
| 23:01.42 | compy_ | btw it was a dd command if that helps |
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| 23:04.20 | twinkie_addict | wow jessie feels much more snappy than wheezy |
| 23:04.22 | penguin42 | compy_: use fdisk or parted |
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| 23:04.45 | babilen | compy_: "format" just means "create a filesystem" -- You can use all the mkfs.* tools for that. You *might* want to create a different partitioning scheme for that which you can do with, say, parted or gdisk or fdisk or ... |
| 23:04.51 | whatup | you could use something called 'disks' which will repartition/format the usb in gnome - netubootin maybe. |
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| 23:06.13 | twinkie_addict | gparted works very well for formating the usb key just make a new partition table format to fat 32 and your ready for dd |
| 23:07.34 | mrdeb | how do u format mbr in usb flash |
| 23:07.56 | babilen | dpkg: tell mrdeb -about u |
| 23:09.04 | whatup | first thing todo is run the mount command and determine which device it's on - /dev/sgx |
| 23:09.31 | babilen | mrdeb: Just overwrite it with whatever data you want to have there. One way is to run something like: "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=446 count=1" with sdX being something like sda and the block device of the disk you want to overwrite the MBR of. |
| 23:10.02 | twinkie_addict | no need make whole usb fat32 dd will handle the rest never send to /dev/sdb1 sent to /dev/sdb/instead |
| 23:10.11 | babilen | mrdeb: Note that this *will* destroy the MBR. Please make sure that this is what you actually want to do. |
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| 23:10.27 | penguin42 | babilen: You've got to be a little careful with gpt parts these days - it confuses things and over writing the start isn't enough |
| 23:10.29 | Technodrome | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/linux-container |
| 23:10.36 | Technodrome | what happened to this package? |
| 23:10.39 | Technodrome | it used to be there |
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| 23:10.52 | compy_ | babilen, sry was afk for a minute |
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| 23:11.15 | compy_ | wats the command to make it go back to normal? |
| 23:11.18 | babilen | penguin42: GPT is not MBR |
| 23:11.24 | penguin42 | babilen: Indeed |
| 23:12.22 | babilen | penguin42: You might be right that some people might ask "How do I format mbr" when they are actually having a disk with GPT, but my crystal ball is not always that powerful ;) |
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| 23:12.53 | compy_ | doesnt know wat GPT or mbr is :( |
| 23:13.11 | penguin42 | babilen: Ah but if a disk has a GPT partition table on as well as msdos (e.g. some installers) then to get rid of the GPT to make it a plain msdos is tricky and something you might not expect if all you wanted was msdos |
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| 23:13.33 | twinkie_addict | dd overwrites that it allways makes a odd lable |
| 23:13.50 | twinkie_addict | no prblaem unetbootin sucks |
| 23:14.37 | compy_ | <compy_> i formated my usb for a live install a while back, does anyone know how to format it back? |
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| 23:15.32 | twinkie_addict | gparted |
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| 23:16.20 | mrdeb | dd doesnst do it |
| 23:16.36 | mrdeb | it still leaves mbr so u cant boot another iso from it until i use format tool in windows |
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| 23:16.47 | notanick | thanx twinkie_addict not showing up though |
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| 23:17.22 | notanick | seemingly its unmounted for some reason |
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| 23:18.06 | twinkie_addict | when dd write to a fat32 formated usb drive it blows all data on the drive for the new file being writen |
| 23:18.06 | babilen | notanick: There really is not way to "restore" whatever was on there before. You simply have to configure it the way you want it. |
| 23:18.32 | notanick | babilen, i dont want to restore anything, just get it back to being a storage device |
| 23:18.55 | babilen | (and btw, dd is typically not needed to write images to USB stick as cp can be used. cp even scales the blocksize (bs parameter in dd) automatically for optimal write performance) |
| 23:19.13 | twinkie_addict | format with gparted befor that go to device in geparted and make a new partion table make a new partion fat32 |
| 23:19.15 | DANtheBEASTman | is anyone else having trouble with apt pinning? |
| 23:19.21 | DANtheBEASTman | or am I just doing it wrong |
| 23:19.47 | notanick | twinkie_addict, ok usb is mounted but not showing up on gparted |
| 23:19.48 | babilen | notanick: Then create whatever partitions you want on there with, say, gdisk, parted or fdisk and continue with creating a filesystem. Depending on which filesystem you want you would use, say, mkfs.ext4 mkfs.ext3 (and so on) |
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| 23:20.15 | notanick | babilen, which is the default factory setting on usbs? |
| 23:20.24 | babilen | DANtheBEASTman: pinning is seldom needed for standard installations -- What are you trying to achieve? |
| 23:20.37 | mrdeb | keep old version of program that's better |
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| 23:20.44 | mrdeb | like vlc 1x is better than 2x |
| 23:20.47 | babilen | notanick: No idea, I guess vfat is frequently used |
| 23:20.53 | twinkie_addict | default is fat or vfat |
| 23:21.26 | twinkie_addict | i think i allways overite my usb keys |
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| 23:21.41 | babilen | DANtheBEASTman: ping? |
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| 23:22.04 | DANtheBEASTman | babilen: I'm trying to pull in just a couple packages from sid. I added sid to sources.list, and then added sid to apt/preferences pinned at 400, but when I run apt-get upgrade itwants to upgrade everything to sid, like it's completely ignoring the pin |
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| 23:22.28 | babilen | DANtheBEASTman: Which release do you track normally? |
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| 23:22.40 | DANtheBEASTman | I'm on wheezy |
| 23:22.54 | DANtheBEASTman | fresh wheezy install |
| 23:22.54 | mrdeb | debian 7? |
| 23:22.58 | DANtheBEASTman | yes |
| 23:22.58 | notanick | ok so im trying gdisk |
| 23:23.10 | notanick | and idk the filename |
| 23:23.21 | babilen | DANtheBEASTman: You really shouldn't mix stable (wheezy) with anything but backports. In particular mixing it with testing or unstable *will* break it. You can backport selected packaged manually by following "/msg dpkg ssb" |
| 23:23.36 | twinkie_addict | i will wall you though all the steps open a privet chat with me so were anoying the channle |
| 23:23.44 | babilen | DANtheBEASTman: Which packages do you want? |
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| 23:24.10 | notanick | ok so im trying gdisk |
| 23:24.12 | notanick | and idk the filename |
| 23:24.49 | DANtheBEASTman | babilen: I normally don't make a habit of it, but I'm trying to get ruby and rails set up on this box, and rails requires nodejs which is only available in sid |
| 23:25.05 | Technodrome | debian doesn't come with linux vserver any more? |
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| 23:26.02 | babilen | DANtheBEASTman: Then either backport it manually, track testing/unstable or use a distribution that comes with nodejs in its stable release |
| 23:26.03 | LinuxGuy2010 | Hello I have downloaded the Wheezy 64bit bluray images for an offline machine and the installer fails. I think there is something wrong with the installer cause the 64bit dvd works fine. But I realized I have software that needs a 32 bit environment. How can I verify if the 32 bit bluray images install works? Do I have to just download and test myself? |
| 23:26.09 | babilen | judd: checkbackport nodejs |
| 23:26.11 | judd | Backporting package nodejs in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 23:26.25 | babilen | DANtheBEASTman: backporting should be fine ^^^ (/msg dpkg ssb) |
| 23:26.26 | Technodrome | Linux-VServer support is no longer present in Debian, starting from wheezy. |
| 23:26.26 | Technodrome | blah |
| 23:26.29 | Technodrome | LXC freaking sucks |
| 23:26.57 | DANtheBEASTman | thanks, that would work, but I'm still interested to know why apt-pinning isn't working |
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| 23:28.30 | babilen | DANtheBEASTman: I can look into that tomorrow, but I'm off now. (sorry) |
| 23:28.42 | DANtheBEASTman | thanks. |
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| 23:29.53 | moof2 | altker128, good; that probably is a load off your mind... what happens when you boot? |
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| 23:30.31 | altker128 | moof2: Things work :) |
| 23:30.48 | moof2 | great... congrats |
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| 23:31.31 | twinkie_addict | nice |
| 23:31.47 | quotemstr | Why is apt-get upgrade complaining about errors in /var/cache/apt/archives/install-info? |
| 23:32.37 | quotemstr | Something about unknown directive interest-noawait |
| 23:32.57 | quotemstr | I know I should have stayed on stable |
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| 23:37.05 | RagingMind | can you pin a set of packages based on their source package? |
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| 23:38.41 | DANtheBEASTman | here's a gist of my /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/preferences I just can't understand why everything is being upgraded to sid https://gist.github.com/DanielFGray/7c53fc23a093f3ffee42 |
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| 23:42.38 | Devastator | damn, I don't know if I should try or not nvidia proprietary :/ dilemma sux |
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| 23:44.37 | DANtheBEASTman | disregard that, I fixed it by setting stable/wheezy to 700 |
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| 23:56.10 | Xmode | i am looking for an alternative to wicd in Linux, something that is not gui-based. Any recommendations? |
| 23:56.49 | musca | !wodim |
| 23:56.49 | dpkg | wodim ("write optical disk media") is a <DFSG> compliant fork of <cdrecord>, part of <cdrkit> and available in the wodim package. See http://lwn.net/Articles/198171/ for the release notice. Use -pad for .wav files when burning audio. Use -swab if your CDR uses little endian or .cdr is in big endian -- basically if the audio on CD is static, use -swab. |
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| 23:59.04 | penguin42 | wth does libffi5:amd64 break libffi5:armhf |
| 23:59.17 | Xmode | the wicd program I have tried is a curses-based network manager program, but I dissatisfied with it. so, I am looking for another one for that task, text-based or curses-based. |
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| 23:59.40 | penguin42 | Xmode: How much do you want to do - nmcli can do some simple things |
