| 00:00.02 | mannyb_ | rudi_s: thanks. I'm reading /usr/share/doc/packaging-tutorial/packaging-tutorial.pdf. Good stuff |
| 00:00.15 | rudi_s | np |
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| 00:08.21 | hust921 | # |
| 00:08.23 | hust921 | # -- WeeChat theme -- |
| 00:08.26 | hust921 | # $name: fbesser.theme |
| 00:08.28 | hust921 | # $date: 2011-09-27 |
| 00:08.29 | hust921 | # $weechat: 0.3.6 |
| 00:08.31 | ScottO_ | does Clonezilla just use dd to image a disk? |
| 00:08.32 | hust921 | # $script: theme.py 0.1-dev |
| 00:08.34 | hust921 | # |
| 00:08.35 | ScottO_ | or is there something more? |
| 00:08.37 | hust921 | aspell.look.color = "lightred" |
| 00:08.37 | hust921 | irc.color.input_nick = "lightcyan" |
| 00:08.40 | hust921 | irc.color.item_away = "yellow" |
| 00:08.42 | hust921 | irc.color.item_channel_modes = "238" |
| 00:08.44 | hust921 | irc.color.item_lag_counting = "default" |
| 00:08.46 | hust921 | irc.color.item_lag_finished = "200" |
| 00:08.48 | hust921 | irc.color.message_join = "green" |
| 00:08.50 | ScottO_ | hust921: shame on you |
| 00:08.50 | hust921 | irc.color.message_quit = "red" |
| 00:08.52 | hust921 | irc.color.nick_prefix = "green" |
| 00:08.52 | sc_ | lol |
| 00:08.53 | hust921 | irc.color.nick_prefixes = "q:lightred;a:lightcyan;o:76;h:lightmagenta;v:154;*:lightblue" |
| 00:08.55 | sc_ | nice pastebin |
| 00:08.55 | hust921 | irc.color.nick_suffix = "green" |
| 00:08.56 | HelenaKitty | dude |
| 00:08.57 | sc_ | fuck head |
| 00:08.57 | hust921 | irc.color.notice = "green" |
| 00:08.59 | hust921 | irc.color.reason_quit = "235" |
| 00:09.00 | sc_ | LOL |
| 00:09.01 | HelenaKitty | pastebin |
| 00:09.02 | hust921 | irc.color.topic_new = "36" |
| 00:09.04 | hust921 | irc.color.topic_old = "244" |
| 00:09.06 | hust921 | weechat.bar.input.color_bg = "default" |
| 00:09.08 | hust921 | weechat.bar.input.color_delim = "cyan" |
| 00:09.08 | HelenaKitty | pastebin |
| 00:09.09 | hust921 | weechat.bar.input.color_fg = "default" |
| 00:09.10 | sc_ | hahahaha |
| 00:09.12 | hust921 | weechat.bar.nicklist.color_bg = "234" |
| 00:09.12 | HelenaKitty | Use a pastebin! |
| 00:09.13 | hust921 | weechat.bar.nicklist.color_delim = "red" |
| 00:09.15 | ScottO_ | its too late |
| 00:09.16 | hust921 | weechat.bar.nicklist.color_fg = "default" |
| 00:09.17 | hust921 | weechat.bar.status.color_bg = "234" |
| 00:09.18 | Coburn | Kick him |
| 00:09.19 | hust921 | weechat.bar.status.color_delim = "magenta" |
| 00:09.21 | hust921 | weechat.bar.status.color_fg = "107" |
| 00:09.23 | Vicissitude | yep, he's already hooked it |
| 00:09.24 | hust921 | weechat.bar.title.color_bg = "234" |
| 00:09.24 | HelenaKitty | If I had op I would've booted u out :/ |
| 00:09.25 | ScottO_ | coudl try to flood him off |
| 00:09.26 | hust921 | weechat.bar.title.color_delim = "magenta" |
| 00:09.27 | hust921 | weechat.bar.title.color_fg = "107" |
| 00:09.29 | sc_ | hahaha |
| 00:09.30 | hust921 | weechat.color.bar_more = "lightmagenta" |
| 00:09.31 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat = "default" |
| 00:09.34 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_bg = "default" |
| 00:09.36 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_buffer = "white" |
| 00:09.37 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_channel = "default" |
| 00:09.39 | HelenaKitty | abrotman? |
| 00:09.39 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_delimiters = "29" |
| 00:09.41 | HelenaKitty | abrotman? |
| 00:09.41 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_highlight = "214" |
| 00:09.43 | Coburn | Fuck |
| 00:09.44 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_highlight_bg = "default" |
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| 00:09.46 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_host = "24" |
| 00:09.48 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_inactive_buffer = "237" |
| 00:09.49 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_inactive_window = "237" |
| 00:09.52 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_nick = "lightcyan" |
| 00:09.53 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_nick_colors = "cyan,magenta,green,brown,blue,38,64,200,51,58,95,177,52,222,36,142,202,204,105,137,213,166,156,107,32,162,69,57,49,209,204,62,41,143,110,119,150" |
| 00:09.56 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_nick_other = "cyan" |
| 00:09.56 | HelenaKitty | hust921: USE A FUCKIN PASTEBIN! |
| 00:09.57 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 00:09.58 | *** mode/#debian [+q *!*@195.249.91.76] by dondelelcaro |
| 00:09.58 | hust921 | weechat.color.chat_nick_self = "254" |
| 00:09.58 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 00:10.01 | HelenaKitty | U stupid retard! |
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| 00:10.06 | dondelelcaro | HelenaKitty: please stop. |
| 00:10.07 | HelenaKitty | thnx |
| 00:10.09 | HelenaKitty | :/ |
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| 00:10.11 | Coburn | Fucking hell, what did I just read |
| 00:10.16 | HelenaKitty | sorry |
| 00:10.18 | Coburn | pardon my french |
| 00:10.24 | sc_ | pardon my eyes |
| 00:10.33 | HelenaKitty | people just need to learn how to listen |
| 00:10.45 | ScottO_ | so regarding Clonezilla? |
| 00:10.46 | Coburn | now guys, we use |
| 00:10.52 | Coburn | ./clear |
| 00:11.03 | dondelelcaro | if someone has queued up that many messages, they often won't see anything you type until well after; please just use !ops in the future. |
| 00:11.05 | Coburn | what about clonezilla? |
| 00:11.14 | ScottO_ | is it just utilizing dd? |
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| 00:11.23 | Coburn | Not sure. I thought it used partclone |
| 00:11.25 | ScottO_ | i could image a disk with dd |
| 00:11.33 | dondelelcaro | or just cat, yes. |
| 00:11.40 | sc_ | !ops dondelelcaro is telling me what to do (again) |
| 00:11.41 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: sc_ complains about: dondelelcaro is telling me what to do (again) |
| 00:11.47 | ScottO_ | why would i use clonezilla over dd and vise versus |
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| 00:11.51 | sc_ | lol |
| 00:12.07 | Coburn | !ops #debian being awesome |
| 00:12.08 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: coburn complains about: #debian being awesome |
| 00:12.12 | Coburn | :P |
| 00:12.16 | Coburn | Sorry fokls |
| 00:12.17 | HelenaKitty | !ops is supposed to be not abused! |
| 00:12.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: helenakitty complains about: is supposed to be not abused! |
| 00:12.19 | dondelelcaro | please don't abuse !ops either. |
| 00:12.29 | sc_ | there goes dondelelcaro again |
| 00:12.35 | HelenaKitty | .. fml! |
| 00:12.39 | Coburn | testdisk does disk images, including ones with bad sectors |
| 00:12.39 | HelenaKitty | Now I am abusing it :/ |
| 00:12.51 | ScottO_ | i didnt ask about testdisk |
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| 00:13.25 | dondelelcaro | ScottO_: they'll all basically do the same thing; I personally use dcfldd alot, but use whatever works for you |
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| 00:13.53 | ScottO_ | well if clonezilla is easier than loading a livecd and then mounting a smb share, then using dd. then ill use it |
| 00:13.59 | ScottO_ | but if its the same thing, then whatever |
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| 00:15.04 | ScottO_ | also, my image was run through gunzip and still end up wioth the extension of .img and is 160GB on a 320GB disk, although only 40GB of the disk is actually used |
| 00:15.13 | ScottO_ | any idea why the final image was 160GB instead of 40GB? |
| 00:15.54 | dondelelcaro | ScottO_: just because sppace isn't in use, doesn't mean that the underlying sectors have been deleted |
| 00:16.03 | dondelelcaro | ScottO_: so that's not terribly unusual |
| 00:16.05 | ScottO_ | how cna i reduce it? |
| 00:16.18 | dondelelcaro | ScottO_: for what purpose? |
| 00:16.36 | ScottO_ | id prefer space that isnt in use to delete sectors |
| 00:16.38 | woshty | ScottO_: dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile.dat |
| 00:16.48 | woshty | and then delete that somefile.dat |
| 00:17.10 | dondelelcaro | ScottO_: or use zerofree; or something similar. |
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| 00:17.35 | ScottO_ | its just that i dont care to store an image of 160GB when only 40GB of that is useful |
| 00:17.58 | ScottO_ | im imaging a disk before letting my girlfriend install all sorts of viruses and malware on it |
| 00:18.14 | dondelelcaro | ScottO_: yes, but there's no way for any naive imager to know what space is allocated and which isn't. |
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| 00:18.52 | woshty | dondelelcaro: I actually thought that ntfsclone was supposed to do just that .. |
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| 00:19.04 | ScottO_ | dondelelcaro: so the solution is to use zerofree or fill up the space with a single file adn then delete? |
| 00:19.19 | dondelelcaro | ScottO_: generally speaking, yes. |
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| 00:19.32 | dondelelcaro | ScottO_: but the single file must be all zeros (or 1) |
| 00:19.39 | ScottO_ | ok |
| 00:19.43 | dondelelcaro | (otherwise it won't be maximally compressable) |
| 00:19.55 | ScottO_ | any apps in windows that would do that? |
| 00:19.57 | dondelelcaro | woshty: could be; I don't work with NTFS at all. |
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| 00:20.32 | ScottO_ | hrmm.. |
| 00:20.52 | ScottO_ | so if she bought this laptop from someone on craigslist, it could have the previous suer's data on it still? |
| 00:21.14 | woshty | ScottO_: ofc. And lost of nice spyware and other crap .. |
| 00:21.25 | ScottO_ | any laws against accessing it? |
| 00:21.36 | ScottO_ | im curious |
| 00:22.09 | dondelelcaro | we're not lawyers; safer to wipe it. |
| 00:22.13 | ScottO_ | lol |
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| 00:22.16 | sc_ | ScottO_: dynamic links replicating data? |
| 00:22.19 | woshty | ScottO_: no clue and depends on where oyu are .. but how did you come up with that 40G figure in the first place? |
| 00:22.20 | sc_ | i have no idea how that happens |
| 00:22.37 | sc_ | mount --bind? |
| 00:22.37 | ScottO_ | woshty: in windows, the disk is only using 40GB |
| 00:23.07 | ScottO_ | woshty: when i used dd from a mint livecd, resulted in a 160GB image |
| 00:23.14 | ScottO_ | woshty: the disk is a 320GB |
| 00:23.41 | ScottO_ | 120GB of unused space is being imaged |
| 00:24.04 | sc_ | LSD |
| 00:24.06 | woshty | *windows support alert* |
| 00:24.11 | sc_ | (hallucinating) |
| 00:24.14 | ScottO_ | ? |
| 00:24.38 | woshty | ScottO_: there might be a restore partition on that computer, depending on manufacturer .. |
| 00:24.53 | ScottO_ | there is, but thats only 10GB |
| 00:25.01 | ScottO_ | which i included in the total used reported by windows |
| 00:25.03 | sc_ | or unclean disk with a fake partition out there |
| 00:25.10 | ScottO_ | fdisk/ |
| 00:25.11 | ScottO_ | ? |
| 00:25.22 | sc_ | allocated space outside windows |
| 00:25.32 | ScottO_ | only the 2 partitions |
| 00:25.41 | ScottO_ | would fdisk lie? |
| 00:25.43 | ScottO_ | :P |
| 00:25.46 | sc_ | wipe it, install debian call it a day |
| 00:25.54 | sc_ | :) |
| 00:25.54 | ScottO_ | nah she cant use linux |
| 00:26.00 | Vicissitude | can't? |
| 00:26.17 | sc_ | install biebian |
| 00:26.20 | sc_ | she'll love it |
| 00:26.25 | ScottO_ | yeah, im not supporting it |
| 00:26.33 | ScottO_ | i dont need that right now |
| 00:26.35 | ScottO_ | :/ |
| 00:26.41 | sc_ | lol |
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| 00:27.00 | ScottO_ | biebian? |
| 00:27.03 | ScottO_ | wtf is that? |
| 00:27.10 | ScottO_ | sounds horrible |
| 00:27.12 | sc_ | the greatest distro, in the world |
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| 00:27.32 | ScottO_ | related to justin bieber? |
| 00:27.32 | sc_ | http://biebian.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:27.43 | ScottO_ | OH GOD NO |
| 00:27.55 | sc_ | hahha |
| 00:28.22 | ScottO_ | i prefer http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:28.42 | Vicissitude | now I am afraid |
| 00:29.04 | intuxicated | for installing debain + xfce this file debian-testing-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso is enough ? |
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| 00:30.20 | sc_ | intuxicated: do the usb install iso and then apt-get install xfce |
| 00:30.22 | sc_ | imo |
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| 00:30.36 | sc_ | or net install :) |
| 00:31.56 | datguise | intuxicated, if you need to ask that question then "testing" is probably not for you - get "stable" instead |
| 00:32.05 | intuxicated | sc_: then i need internet connection |
| 00:32.25 | sc_ | you irc without it? |
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| 00:33.08 | intuxicated | omg |
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| 00:33.16 | debian_ | alguien que me quiera colaborar en la utilizaciĆ³n de la aplicacion vinagre |
| 00:33.30 | sc_ | debian_: english is more popular |
| 00:33.42 | debian_ | vinagre(Escritorio remoto en gnome) |
| 00:33.49 | sc_ | ingles es mas popularo |
| 00:34.02 | debian_ | ok |
| 00:34.12 | krzee | hello, i just added a via vt6105 to my debian box, but it is not showing up in ifconfig. i see it in lspci -v. i am used to freebsd so im hoping someone could give me a kick in the right direction towards getting the card working in linux. |
| 00:34.32 | krzee | sorry, via vt6105 is a pci network card =] |
| 00:34.46 | ScottO_ | is there no irc client that translates yet? |
| 00:35.15 | debian_ | somebody can help me with aplicattion vinagre, (remote desktop in gnome) |
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| 00:36.04 | sc_ | irssi will |
| 00:36.07 | sc_ | but it is shoddy |
| 00:36.23 | sc_ | debian_: i use x11vnc on server and tightvnc+putty |
| 00:36.29 | sc_ | for ssh tunnel remote desktop |
| 00:36.36 | sc_ | sorry for not speaking direcetly to your problem |
| 00:36.39 | sc_ | perhaps there is a better solution |
| 00:37.08 | debian_ | I need share ip adress |
| 00:37.44 | debian_ | for test vinagre aplicattion |
| 00:38.22 | debian_ | nobody? |
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| 00:38.47 | sc_ | never used it, sorry |
| 00:38.52 | krzee | i have via_rhine.ko loaded but my pci ethernet card is not showing up in ifconfig. the card works fine in freebsd |
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| 00:41.15 | sc_ | krzee: sounds like drivers |
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| 00:41.46 | krzee | sc_, isnt a kernel module more or less the linux version of what windows people call drivers? |
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| 00:43.00 | krzee | it's a via vt6105, from what i see from google i should just need via_rhine.ko, but if you know of something else please do share! |
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| 00:47.37 | krzee | when i add the new device must i manually add it to /etc/network/interfaces in order for it to show up in ifconfig? |
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| 00:55.33 | krzee | i guess that was a yes, it's showing up now :) |
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| 01:00.15 | sc_ | krzee: nice |
| 01:00.31 | krzee | totally! |
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| 01:00.44 | krzee | thanks for listening =] |
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| 01:00.52 | sc_ | haha, glad you figured it out |
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| 01:19.59 | debbix | how can configure proxy settings with a script or editing a file ? |
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| 01:24.29 | reelax | how can i configure socks5 proxy for eth0 with a command ? |
| 01:28.14 | krzee | afaik it doesnt work that way |
| 01:28.30 | krzee | you socksify each thing you run that you want going over the socks proxy |
| 01:28.49 | krzee | something like: socksify wget ? |
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| 01:33.29 | reelax | ANY ONE ??? |
| 01:33.31 | reelax | reelax: how can i configure socks5 proxy for eth0 with a command ? |
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| 01:35.02 | Vicissitude | repetitively asking the same thing won't get it answered any faster/better |
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| 01:38.51 | reelax | :( |
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| 01:41.41 | twinkie_addict | hi |
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| 01:42.25 | KuduIO | I just installed systemd and I get this error: Failed to get D-Bus connection: No connection to service manager. |
| 01:42.37 | twinkie_addict | i installed from the xfce live iiso and upgraded to 7.1 from 7.0 works great |
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| 01:45.34 | krzee | reelax, relax and read my response to you |
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| 01:45.51 | krzee | since i did answer you 4 minutes after you asked |
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| 01:46.56 | dvs | twinkie_addict: Why did you need an iso to upgrade from 7.0 to 7.1? |
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| 01:47.52 | twinkie_addict | its not the upgrade i needed i wanted xfce not gnome 3 |
| 01:48.18 | twinkie_addict | couldnt find one for 7.1 |
| 01:48.41 | twinkie_addict | so i just used dynaptic |
| 01:48.47 | dvs | You don't need an iso to switch desktop environments |
| 01:48.52 | reelax | krzee: where ? |
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| 01:49.38 | twinkie_addict | how then i usualy do network installs they always give me gnome |
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| 01:50.10 | dvs | Because the "Desktop Environment" option is selected. |
| 01:50.14 | reelax | krzee: there is an icon in system settings, called "network" i wanna configure that in command line, not through GUI |
| 01:51.48 | twinkie_addict | any way i got 7.1 and xfce no gnome |
| 01:52.00 | twinkie_addict | im happy :) |
| 01:52.44 | twinkie_addict | but how would you goabout changing the default deestop |
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| 01:53.25 | dvs | twinkie_addict: Purge the "gnome" package and install the "xfce" package. |
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| 01:53.36 | Vicissitude | or add lxde instead |
| 01:53.45 | dvs | !start a de war |
| 01:53.46 | dpkg | Xfce sucks! |
| 01:53.50 | dvs | lol |
| 01:54.15 | Th0masR0ss | No Xfce is awesome |
| 01:54.41 | twinkie_addict | seems easyer to just get xfce iso and upgrade as needed |
| 01:54.58 | dvs | really? |
| 01:54.59 | twinkie_addict | xfce is great |
| 01:55.56 | Th0masR0ss | !start a wm war |
| 01:55.56 | dpkg | blackbox makes me vomit! |
| 01:56.28 | Vicissitude | fvwm95 is all you really need |
| 01:57.32 | twinkie_addict | awesome is awesome lol no wait dwm oh no windowmaker crap those are window managers no desktop envirnments |
| 01:57.51 | twinkie_addict | lol |
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| 02:32.28 | alainus | Is there a way I can download textinfo manuals (properly, not using wget - if it exists) that are missing in my system? |
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| 02:33.56 | dvs | alainus: aptitude install texinfo-doc-nonfree |
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| 02:34.01 | dvs | you need the nonfree repo |
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| 02:35.47 | alainus | dvs, thanks |
| 02:36.04 | dvs | no prob |
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| 02:51.44 | twinkie_addict | oh ofcouse id find a debian 7.1 xfce iso now |
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| 03:14.34 | Xmode | when I look at the configuration file for a program called psad, which I downloaded from debian main repo, it says that its variable SYSLOG_DAEMON can accept one of four possible values, namely these: syslogd, syslog-ng, ulogd, or metalog..... |
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| 03:16.41 | Xmode | However, when I run this command, "chkconfig --list", none of these is showing up. I do have rsyslogd as a service. |
| 03:17.51 | Xmode | should I assume that psad would not work, or that I can use syslogd as the value and expect calls to syslogd would get sent to rsyslogd? |
| 03:19.14 | caf | the syslogd value should work |
| 03:20.03 | Xmode | psad is a program used as Port Scan Attack Detector, and it needs to scan logs for alerts, apparently it wants one of those four daemons, but it does not specify rsyslogd. |
| 03:20.51 | Xmode | caf, you think it? |
| 03:21.43 | Xmode | does Debian forward messages for syslog automatically to rsyslog? |
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| 03:33.32 | caf | rsyslogd is an implementation of syslogd, so yes it receives the standard syslog messages |
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| 04:47.25 | zudge | switched to debian today! |
| 04:47.37 | zudge | i'm trying to mount sdb1 as /storage |
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| 04:47.59 | zudge | i need to find the UUID for sdb1 |
| 04:49.25 | lazors | zudge: sudo blkid |
| 04:50.16 | zudge | thanks man |
| 04:50.19 | zudge | quickly |
| 04:50.19 | zudge | UUID=42bd2dfe-98bf-4f5b-adc1-7617f9837737 /storage ext4 defaults 0 2 |
| 04:50.22 | zudge | looks right, right? |
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| 04:56.52 | Defiance | hola |
| 04:56.58 | Defiance | alguien q me pueda ayudar |
| 04:57.04 | Defiance | con servidores debian |
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| 05:10.07 | Doyle | Offtopic, but does anyone have a favorite corporate level communications suite they can recommend? Cisco Unified and HipChat are a consideration. Hipchat just because cisco chat isn't great, and neither is Lync |
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| 05:48.55 | marcusk | Doyle: IRC/irssi =) |
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| 05:49.08 | Doyle | That's what I said! |
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| 05:49.26 | Doyle | ... But who's going to train finance on it? |
| 05:49.51 | marcusk | You! |
| 05:50.22 | Doyle | no thanks... |
| 05:50.38 | Doyle | That dept needs point and click apps in bright colors with big buttons |
| 05:52.11 | marcusk | The only one I have any expeince with is Lync, and I find it OK at least. Not great. |
| 05:53.19 | Doyle | If we only had windows OS's it would be fine, but the mac client is crippled |
| 05:53.30 | Doyle | no group chat... painful to use |
| 05:53.39 | Doyle | I'm looking at OpenFire/Spark |
| 05:53.51 | Doyle | That project has come a long way in the last few years |
| 05:54.02 | marcusk | Hmm, looks interesting |
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| 05:58.35 | Doyle | The three things I'm investigating now are Absolute Manage, JAMF /w JSS, Bomgar, and AlienVault |
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| 05:59.14 | Doyle | We have Androids, iPhones, Mac's, Windows, and Linux systems to support. It's a fun place. |
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| 07:40.35 | Deele | hello |
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| 07:42.11 | Deele | My admin has set up some sort of security that blocks every connection from specific IP, if there was too many enetered wrong password or something, but I dont know what he has set up exactly, but I have full access to server. Could someone guide me to some generig solutions? |
| 07:42.31 | Deele | iptable -L shows emty list |
| 07:42.43 | g0dfrey | I can't scroll in wireshark unless I put the mouse on the scroll bar after upgrade libgtk-3-0 to 3.8 |
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| 07:43.29 | g0dfrey | I can scroll in QT/GTK2 in windows |
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| 07:45.09 | mumpitzel | Deele: that's fail2ban. generic solution for what? |
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| 07:45.57 | Deele | mumpitzel to check if that is the casae, as I found out that in net, that it could be fail2ban, but I cant find any evidence that someone is banned at this moment |
| 07:46.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps whats a good mailing list for debian pam issues? |
| 07:47.06 | mumpitzel | iptables should tell you about bans |
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| 07:48.57 | Deele | it shows that there are no active bans, still, I can't event connect to that servers website or ftp, from that place, where problem accoured |
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| 07:50.18 | g0dfrey | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1171342 |
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| 07:52.10 | Deele | mumpitzel hey, Ijust found that this IP is in deinied hosts file /etc/hosts.deny How it could have got there? |
| 07:53.56 | Deele | I just removed all hosts from that list, but I still cant connect |
| 07:54.01 | mumpitzel | Deele: via fail2ban |
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| 07:54.51 | daveee123 | hey, not sure if i have grub installed. i installed debian twice with the same pc. i was making an OS on an SSD planning to remove it and place it in another computer that coould not complete the install on its own. that worked fine. but now the PC i performed the install with, didnt seem to have grub. it opened up to grub rescue. so i followed some instructions online and set root="did it right w/e" and then i entered "insmod normal" and |
| 07:54.52 | daveee123 | then " |
| 07:54.59 | daveee123 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:56.18 | mumpitzel | daveee123: are you booted into your debian now? |
| 07:56.26 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: yup |
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| 07:57.40 | mumpitzel | daveee123: then run grub-install and update-grub |
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| 07:58.02 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: i don't have to install it to a particular partition? |
| 07:58.18 | galant | how can I archive directory and all its subdirectories into zip or rar archive from linux? |
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| 07:59.34 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: like grub-install /dev/sdblahblah?? |
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| 08:02.47 | mumpitzel | daveee123: only sda usually. not a partition but a disk |
| 08:03.04 | Deele | mumpitzel after removing from tcp wrappers deny file, do I need to restart some service or something? |
| 08:03.14 | mumpitzel | galant: must it be rar/zip or shouldn't it be tar.bz2? |
| 08:03.19 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: alright. i'll go for it and let you know how it goes |
| 08:03.24 | mumpitzel | Deele: not sure |
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| 08:06.01 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: grub-install just showed me options for commands, but update-grub gave me this http://pastebin.com/htefprC2 |
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| 08:06.41 | mumpitzel | daveee123: and? |
| 08:07.12 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: that's all i got. i think i'll try restarting to see if it boots |
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| 08:08.18 | galant | no mumpitzel it must be rar or zip |
| 08:08.25 | galant | how can I compres dir from linux to rar or zip? |
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| 08:11.10 | Deceptor | galant: zip -r compressed_filename.zip foldername |
| 08:11.45 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: didn't work. one sec. checking in grub |
| 08:12.05 | mumpitzel | daveee123: I told you to run grub-install, with the proper parameter for your disk |
| 08:12.09 | mumpitzel | usually, /dev/sda |
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| 08:13.24 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: done |
| 08:13.34 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: gonna try it one more time. restarting, that is. brb |
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| 08:16.08 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: success. thank you! |
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| 08:26.28 | daveee123 | i am trying to boot linux into a mac, or any computer. i don't know if this is possible. but i have a 64gb usb and was wondering if i can run an OS from it, not just a liveCD. I would try to include several drivers so i can use it on a few different computer i know i will encounter. so i would like to just enter a boot menu on the respective computer and select the usb and run the os from there. and i want to do this with stable debian/xfce |
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| 08:29.03 | daveee123 | anybody have any advice? especially getting it to work on a mac. i encounter a lot of the same macs. and want to run linux on them |
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| 08:29.49 | mumpitzel | daveee123: you can install debian on a smaller usb stick, yes. you should disable logging as much as possible since usb sticks die fast |
| 08:30.02 | mumpitzel | other OSes might be possible too but are outside the scope of this channel |
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| 08:30.24 | around | hi, is the bug tracker the right place to submit systemd unit files for packages? |
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| 08:32.25 | Konomi | hey guys trying to recover a system here but it's stalling in the alsa init script how the heck do I tell recovery mode to boot less stuff |
| 08:32.52 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: ok. definitely want debian. is there a special way to install the os on the USB. or should i just treat it like an ssd, or hdd? |
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| 08:33.45 | mumpitzel | it's just like a hdd |
| 08:34.01 | around | Konomi: using GRUB2? |
| 08:34.04 | Konomi | hai |
| 08:34.11 | around | hi |
| 08:34.18 | Konomi | as in yes |
| 08:34.19 | Konomi | ;p |
| 08:34.41 | Konomi | we need to stop the alsa init script running cause it's freezing the sysvinit startup |
| 08:34.55 | mumpitzel | Konomi: edit the kernel parameters for the kernel you start and put a "init=/bin/bash" there |
| 08:35.08 | around | ^ my thoughts exactly |
| 08:35.11 | mumpitzel | to edit, press "e" in grub |
| 08:35.12 | Konomi | can that be done from the grub menu? |
| 08:35.15 | mumpitzel | yes |
| 08:35.15 | around | yea |
| 08:35.16 | Konomi | okay ty |
| 08:35.24 | Konomi | conveying information to the personI am helping |
| 08:35.26 | around | look for the line starting with "linux", press End, and append "init=/bin/bash" |
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| 08:35.59 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: ok. so i've done that. how do i get it to be recognized on a mac? |
| 08:36.19 | Konomi | around: will bypassing the init scripts cause any issues btrfs has filled up with meta data and we're trying to run a balance |
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| 08:36.41 | around | Konomi: I'm not sure, I've never used btrfs, sorry |
| 08:36.45 | around | daveee123: have you formatted the stick? |
| 08:36.50 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: also i "sudo upgrade-from-grub-legacy"-ed and got this output http://pastebin.com/Yckwk5qQ |
| 08:36.50 | Konomi | and I wish she had never used it either atm ^^; |
| 08:36.56 | mumpitzel | daveee123: I don't know. check how to use EFI |
| 08:37.04 | around | I think formatting it FAT32 will allow Macs to recognize it |
| 08:37.09 | daveee123 | around: i went through a full install on the stick on a pc. and just treated it like i was installing debian on an hdd. |
| 08:37.20 | around | you need FAT32 for native UEFI boot |
| 08:37.41 | Jordan_U | Konomi: Why not boot from a LiveCD/USB? |
| 08:37.53 | daveee123 | around: is it possible to specify that in the boot? |
| 08:37.54 | Konomi | Jordan_U: not many live cds support btrfs and have the tools to rebalance |
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| 08:38.19 | around | daveee123: not really, FAT32 is a file system, you'll likely need to reformat it then install again if it's not FAT32 already. |
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| 08:38.42 | crane_work | hi, how can i check if my crl url is setup correctly in my ca? |
| 08:38.47 | daveee123 | around: ok. it might not be. idk. it can run just fine on the pc, but the mac does not recognize it |
| 08:39.24 | Jordan_U | around: I would expect that you'll have better luck submitting systemd unit files to upstream Debian (assuming that you've tested them in Debian first) as they seem to have more interest in Systemd than Ubuntu/Canonical does. |
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| 08:39.30 | mumpitzel | around: EFI uses FAT? |
| 08:39.34 | around | daveee123: I don't know if you can do this on Macs, but try going to the BIOS/UEFI setup and changing from UEFI boot to Legacy BIOS boot there. note that you'll need to change it back to UEFI to boot OS X. |
| 08:39.39 | around | mumpitzel: yes |
| 08:39.40 | mumpitzel | around: Macs do not use UEFI fyi |
| 08:39.50 | around | ah |
| 08:39.55 | daveee123 | around: will do |
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| 08:40.17 | mumpitzel | daveee123: don't bother. as you just saw, he has no clue what he's talking about. look at the debian wiki for Macs or example |
| 08:40.26 | daveee123 | mumpitzel: ok |
| 08:40.35 | Jordan_U | around: Sorry, ignore my tired comment :) |
| 08:41.04 | around | Jordan_U: lol, yes, I'm going to submit them to the Debian BTS, not Launchpad :P |
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| 08:42.40 | around | mumpitzel: indeed, I don't know much about Macs and the EFI they use, although I'm pretty sure they need FAT32 for native EFI booting too. we'll see. |
| 08:43.04 | around | pretty sure = heard it somewhere |
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| 08:43.18 | vsync_ | mumpitzel: you are mean |
| 08:43.25 | Jordan_U | around: They need either some form of FAT filesystem or an hfsplus filesystem. |
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| 08:44.39 | around | ah |
| 08:44.56 | around | I've heard someone suggesting formatting as FAT32, that's why I guessed that would work. |
| 08:45.08 | Jordan_U | daveee123: To be clear, it's only a small (can be ~ 100 MiB) EFI System Partition that will need to be FAT, which you might be able to make room for without re-installing. You'll also want to use GPT rather than an msdos partition table. |
| 08:45.14 | mumpitzel | around: apple PCs needing a microsoft filesystem for booting? fat chance. but that's OT |
| 08:45.24 | Konomi | around: we need to mount the drives what init script would we run now that we have them all off |
| 08:45.26 | mumpitzel | Jordan_U: again, EFI or UEFI? |
| 08:45.59 | daveee123 | Jordan_U: thank you. that just made everything i've been reading make sense |
| 08:46.31 | mumpitzel | Konomi: no script. just mount normally |
| 08:46.58 | Konomi | mumpitzel: would asking mount to process fstab be fine? |
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| 08:47.10 | mumpitzel | probably. I don't know your setup |
| 08:47.15 | around | I guess mount -a should work |
| 08:47.15 | Jordan_U | mumpitzel: Apple's EFI will boot from either a FAT EFI System Partition or a properly vodoo'd (odd undocumented requirements) hfsplus fileysystem. UEFI systems, and non-Apple EFI systems (which do exist, though there are few and they're all old), only support FAT. |
| 08:47.26 | mumpitzel | there always is /etc/init.d/mountall.sh |
| 08:47.38 | Konomi | ah thanks |
| 08:47.53 | mumpitzel | IIRC only itanic used EFI 1.x |
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| 08:48.27 | vsync_ | ot |
| 08:49.02 | Konomi | mumpitzel: we went with mount -a |
| 08:49.14 | Konomi | processes fstab apparently ^^ |
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| 09:01.02 | daveee123 | so, using these instructions i was going to make a bootable USB, as if it were an HDD, but i'm not sure what the format of the other partitions should be. other than the first, being macosx journaled |
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| 09:04.22 | th0rsten | anyone here using texlive/texmaker? |
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| 09:05.07 | Jordan_U | daveee123: I recommend against using hfsplus instead of FAT32. It's much simpler to make a [U]EFI bootable USB drive with a FAT32 System Partition ("grub-install --removable" with the ESP mounted at /boot/efi/ and you're done) than an hfsplus undocumented cludge: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/7468.html?thread=601900 . |
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| 09:05.49 | Hadobrando | hello everyone! |
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| 09:05.55 | daveee123 | Jordan_U: yup. i am slow. realizing that now. |
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| 09:11.32 | Hadobrando | im using debian 7.1 with ejabberd from apt and i have a problem with the lookup of jpgphoto with the ldap vcard mod... like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ejabberd/+bug/1095999 |
| 09:11.46 | Hadobrando | but launchpad states that its been already fixed in debian? |
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| 09:12.38 | xmj | Hi, How do I find out (on a debian box I'm told to use) which package installed some file in /usr/bin ? |
| 09:13.05 | boycottg00gle | dpkg -S somefile |
| 09:13.06 | dpkg | You Fool! somefile is installed! |
| 09:13.17 | Hadobrando | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660186 |
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| 09:13.37 | xmj | thanks |
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| 09:15.42 | th0rsten | I installed google-chrome and added it to the activities using alacarte. Is there any way to actually set it as default browser? |
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| 09:16.25 | korn36 | what DE do you use, th0rsten? |
| 09:17.04 | korn36 | gnome? |
| 09:17.36 | korn36 | i think that there was an option to set default programs in gnome settings... but i'm on kde atm, so i can't check |
| 09:17.53 | boycottg00gle | debian way would be (don't know wether gnome/kde respect): update-alternatives --config x-www-browser |
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| 09:18.15 | th0rsten | korn36, yes gnome 3 |
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| 09:18.30 | th0rsten | there is a gui menu for default application |
| 09:18.38 | korn36 | so set it there |
| 09:18.45 | boycottg00gle | gconftool-2 -R /|grep browser |
| 09:18.55 | th0rsten | but it only lists the browser that was already installed |
| 09:19.07 | korn36 | th0rsten: why did you install closed-source google chrome instead of open-source chromium? |
| 09:19.47 | th0rsten | can I sync chromium with chrome instances i have running on other machines? |
| 09:19.55 | Hadobrando | is this the right channel for this question? can anyone confirm that this bug has not been fixed yet? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=660186 |
| 09:20.42 | korn36 | th0rsten: i don't sync my browsers, so i can't tell you |
| 09:21.10 | th0rsten | as far as I know I can't. As I still have another windows machine i use for gaming.... |
| 09:21.26 | can1 | #istanbul |
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| 09:21.42 | korn36 | th0rsten: I found chromium for windows http://crportable.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 09:22.42 | th0rsten | i'll have a look at it. |
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| 09:25.37 | boycottg00gle | https://github.com/nylira/prism-break/issues/169 |
| 09:25.40 | mumpitzel | Hadobrando: the bug says it's fixed in ejabberd 2.1.10-4 |
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| 09:26.20 | korn36 | th0rsten: can't you add custom browser to gnome default apps? |
| 09:26.30 | Hadobrando | mumpitzel: my package info says its 2.1.10-4 |
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| 09:27.04 | th0rsten | it should be possible and thats what I would like to do. just don't know how |
| 09:27.06 | Hadobrando | mumpitzel: Filename: pool/main/e/ejabberd/ejabberd_2.1.10-4_amd64.deb |
| 09:27.17 | mumpitzel | Hadobrando: so it is fixed. if you think it's not and can reproduce the error, reopen the bug again |
| 09:27.23 | korn36 | th0rsten: try looking in dconf editor |
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| 09:32.16 | jargon | i was wondering, why are DEs in debian always so visually unappealling? is there a reason for this? |
| 09:32.30 | jargon | take Debian XFCE, for example. |
| 09:32.43 | jargon | it's not winning any beauty peagants, is it? |
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| 09:33.20 | kizer | i kind of wonder about that but the software is outstanding |
| 09:33.29 | jargon | so i was wondering why it gets released like that. i mean there are some very pretty looking XFCE distros out there. why is debian's so ugly? |
| 09:33.44 | jargon | kizer: the software's great. but the look.... not so much |
| 09:33.47 | kizer | the most recent came with gnome-shell |
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| 09:34.04 | kizer | pretty flashy for someone coming from windows |
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| 09:34.28 | jargon | kizer: gnone shell's flashy yeah, but i find the "workflow" completely unusable |
| 09:34.34 | kizer | but yeah, it should come with something that says Hi, I'd like you to enjoy your first moments with me. |
| 09:34.45 | jargon | ^ |
| 09:34.52 | th0rsten | i still don't know what to think of gnome 3 |
| 09:34.59 | th0rsten | was really happy with the predecessor |
| 09:35.03 | kizer | Instead of, wow. this looks like windows 98 lol |
| 09:35.05 | th0rsten | but this is kind of |
| 09:35.07 | th0rsten | meeeh |
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| 09:35.14 | jargon | th0rsten: debian gnome? |
| 09:35.18 | th0rsten | yes |
| 09:35.34 | jargon | i dunno, man. it's like xfce in its complete lack of visual appeal |
| 09:35.49 | jargon | it would be ok if this was the 90s |
| 09:36.00 | jargon | but the 90s were 20 years ago |
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| 09:36.46 | th0rsten | maybe I should look for other options than gnome. But I'm not really fond of kde |
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| 09:37.02 | jargon | th0rsten: me neither. i use crunchbang actually. openbox |
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| 09:37.33 | th0rsten | Is Unity worth giving a try? Although it was my reason to switch from ubuntu to debian |
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| 09:37.48 | jargon | th0rsten: if u're a masochist, sure go for it |
| 09:37.52 | th0rsten | :D |
| 09:38.18 | Walex | th0rsten: it is not too bad, and has some amusing features, but it is somewhat "untraditional" |
| 09:38.18 | jargon | i really think debian as a project could do better with how they ship the DEs |
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| 09:38.43 | Walex | th0rsten: it is certainly usable, if not to everybody's taste. |
| 09:38.47 | jargon | Walex: "untraditional" wins you the Euphemism of the Day Award |
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| 09:39.31 | Walex | jargon: th0rsten: let's say that Unity is not for command-line sort of people :-) |
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| 09:39.55 | jargon | Walex: unity seems more geared towards the cognitively impaired |
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| 09:41.00 | Walex | jargon: well, surely not for the introverts who use 'awesome' and cover their screen with xterms with tiny fonts in blue on a black background :-) |
| 09:41.07 | jelly | is unity available in debian at all? |
| 09:41.24 | jelly | apt-cache doesn't find anything explicitely named unity |
| 09:41.38 | jargon | Walex: not even for people who just want a sane gnome 2.x experience, either |
| 09:41.50 | th0rsten | Is there an overview of the availabe environments somewhere? |
| 09:41.53 | jargon | jelly: unity is an ubuntu package |
| 09:42.04 | jargon | jelly: if u want unity why not use ubuntu? |
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| 09:42.40 | jargon | jelly: or you could try Cinnamon |
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| 09:42.51 | jelly | jargon: I'm asking because of <th0rsten> Is Unity worth giving a try? |
| 09:42.51 | jargon | i'm told it makes more sense than Unity |
| 09:43.05 | jargon | jelly: oh i see |
| 09:43.15 | jelly | jargon: do you have an answer? |
| 09:43.23 | jargon | an answer for? |
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| 09:43.28 | jelly | is unity available in debian at all? |
| 09:43.45 | jargon | jelly: 11:41:53 < jargon> jelly: unity is an ubuntu package |
| 09:43.49 | _christoph_ | Push: How do I specify multiple email recipients in Unattended-Upgrade::Mail - what kind of separator will i need? |
| 09:43.52 | jelly | jargon: that's not an answer. |
| 09:44.05 | jargon | jelly: if u say so |
| 09:44.11 | jelly | jargon: "yes" or "no" would be. |
| 09:44.24 | jargon | jelly: not even in kindergarten |
| 09:44.43 | jargon | most people know how to process answers of more than one word :-) |
| 09:44.47 | jargon | *most* |
| 09:44.51 | th0rsten | I'm always amused when I hear or read kindergarten in english |
| 09:45.17 | jargon | th0rsten: a garden where kids grow on trees |
| 09:45.28 | jargon | now there's your macabre image for the day |
| 09:45.47 | jelly | _christoph_: typically: comma separated and being careful not to use any spaces, makes apps that use /usr/sbin/sendmail send to multiple addresses even if they don't support it explicitely |
| 09:46.03 | th0rsten | Tons of english words made it into my language, but at least we gave kindergarten in return |
| 09:46.10 | jargon | lol |
| 09:46.18 | jargon | th0rsten: and gesundheit |
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| 09:46.43 | th0rsten | Wasn't aware of that one |
| 09:46.58 | jargon | th0rsten: and i think american english incorporated a lot of yiddish words, which are basically corrupted german words |
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| 09:47.09 | qiyong | is there some editor which will highlight syntax errors of C code or any other languages? |
| 09:47.11 | jargon | th0rsten: also "angst" |
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| 09:47.24 | jargon | th0rsten: "angsty", "teen angst" |
| 09:47.31 | th0rsten | weird |
| 09:47.36 | jargon | yeah |
| 09:48.28 | jelly | _christoph_: if that failed, you could use a MTA that has /etc/aliases functionality and expand to multiple recipients there |
| 09:48.43 | boycottg00gle | qiyong: emacs |
| 09:48.51 | jargon | th0rsten: http://german.about.com/library/blvoc_gerloan.htm |
| 09:49.14 | jargon | i had no idea aspirin was a german word |
| 09:49.16 | jargon | cool |
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| 09:50.14 | th0rsten | Kaffeeklatsch lmao |
| 09:50.19 | jargon | lol |
| 09:50.23 | ksk | blitzkrieg, bratwurst, fĆ¼hrer. awsome :D |
| 09:50.25 | jargon | coffee klatsch |
| 09:50.51 | vsync_ | sauerkraut |
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| 09:51.24 | jargon | glitz |
| 09:51.38 | jargon | and of course hamburger |
| 09:51.49 | jargon | the cornerstone of american fine dining :P |
| 09:52.02 | vsync_ | the cornerstone of every nutricious breakfast |
| 09:52.05 | jdoles | How expensive does a laser printer usually have to be before there is any chance of it being able to do double sided printing? |
| 09:52.21 | boycottg00gle | jdoles: not expensive ~200ā¬ |
| 09:52.27 | th0rsten | don't talk about them. since i've been to california there are like two places left I enjoy burgers |
| 09:52.34 | th0rsten | and they are horribly expensive :( |
| 09:52.41 | jargon | lol sorry |
| 09:52.54 | jargon | i'm not a big burger fan, myself |
| 09:53.01 | jargon | kebab |
| 09:53.11 | jargon | shawarma |
| 09:53.13 | jargon | stuff like that |
| 09:53.22 | jargon | i very very rarely eat burgers |
| 09:53.25 | boycottg00gle | jdoles: can recommend kyocera fs1300d (if that modell is still available) |
| 09:53.30 | jargon | i just don't get them, somehow |
| 09:53.55 | jargon | or maybe mac donalds ruined the experience for me |
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| 09:54.14 | jdoles | boycottg00gle: there is a 99$ "upgrade" available for my printer to add the feature. |
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| 09:54.27 | jargon | "masochism". who knew? lol |
| 09:54.39 | th0rsten | mcd is definitely crap. but to be honest. Even there the difference is noticable |
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| 09:54.58 | th0rsten | and mcd/burger king is every thing we got here |
| 09:55.07 | th0rsten | plus some really expensive diners |
| 09:55.09 | jdoles | th0rsten: mcd provides a particular consistent experience globally. |
| 09:55.14 | daveee123 | the search function is not working properly in nautilus, gnome3, deb 7.0.0. I am in the filesystem. i can see the folder titled boot. THen i type in boot. and other conf files appear. and the only parameter is that it is located in "File System" which i believe is just "/" |
| 09:55.28 | vsync_ | oh man i'd love me some bbq burgers right now |
| 09:55.28 | jdoles | th0rsten: when you are in the middle of nowhere, you at least know what you are getting. |
| 09:55.29 | daveee123 | is everything not indexed? is there something i am missing? |
| 09:55.31 | jargon | i prefer bk to mcd, actually. but still not a burger fan |
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| 09:55.46 | vsync_ | and coleslaw on the side please |
| 09:55.49 | th0rsten | probably. but eating in the mac donalds in berkeley was the first time I ever had fries that tasted like potato |
| 09:55.56 | jargon | lol |
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| 09:56.26 | th0rsten | (speaking of mcd, bk fries are somehow a bit better. not much) |
| 09:56.30 | jelly | th0rsten, jargon, and anyone: you might move the fast food convo to #debian-offtopic |
| 09:56.37 | Walex | however I hope that what Ubuntu is about is pretty clear: tablets and mobile phones |
| 09:56.42 | galant | how can I compres dir from linux to rar or zip? |
| 09:56.43 | jargon | jdoles: it's not that consistent. the menu varies from culture to culture |
| 09:57.03 | jargon | i doubt there's any beef in mcd bugers in india, for example |
| 09:57.07 | jelly | galant: install "zip" package and use the zip tool |
| 09:57.12 | th0rsten | will do that jelly |
| 09:57.34 | Walex | galant: there are the 'zip' and 'rar' commands and very many graphical frontends |
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| 09:58.14 | Walex | galant: most desktop environemtn file browsers will also deal with compressed archives transparently |
| 09:58.37 | jelly | galant: "rar" is shareware, available in the non-free section, and you're supposed to register (pay for a license) after 30 days use |
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| 10:00.31 | jelly | zip, in the other hand, is free |
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| 10:05.06 | daveee123 | ? |
| 10:05.12 | daveee123 | the search function is not working properly in nautilus, gnome3, deb 7.0.0. I am in the filesystem. i can see the folder titled boot. THen i type in boot. and other conf files appear. and the only parameter is that it is located in "File System" which i believe is just "/" |
| 10:05.15 | daveee123 | is everything not indexed? is there something i am missing? |
| 10:05.37 | th0rsten | how can I set my PATH in terminal so it will be saved for future sessions? |
| 10:05.37 | vsync_ | that list of german words... had they forgotten schaudenfraude or however it's spelled... |
| 10:05.45 | th0rsten | no it is on another page |
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| 10:06.03 | th0rsten | Schadensfreude |
| 10:06.37 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: PATH is a feature of the shell you use - the shell just runs in a terminal |
| 10:07.08 | th0rsten | I need to set my path to texlive bin so texmaker finds it |
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| 10:07.31 | boycottg00gle | "echo $0" should show the shell you use |
| 10:07.38 | boycottg00gle | likely it is bash |
| 10:07.47 | th0rsten | it is |
| 10:08.11 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: man bash (will show the manual page) |
| 10:08.15 | th0rsten | i tried it with PATH=$PATH:/mypath/ export PATH |
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| 10:08.51 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: bash reads various files on startup |
| 10:09.02 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: you can search in man using "/" then type bashrc |
| 10:10.13 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: you likely want to use ~/.bashrc |
| 10:11.33 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: bash allows to set and export in one go (export KEY=VALUE) ; other shells want (set KEY=VALUE; export KEY) |
| 10:11.43 | daveee123 | is there a way to ensure the filemanager includes all files in its search |
| 10:12.47 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: export marks the KEY to be inherited to child processes |
| 10:13.21 | Konomi | anyone happen to know if there is some file that records the install date of your install? |
| 10:13.34 | th0rsten | and with ~/.bashrc it will be set permanently? |
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| 10:13.49 | th0rsten | so i can just open texmaker without terminal and it will find the files it needs? |
| 10:14.23 | galant | guys can I make rar or zip archives with tar command? |
| 10:14.30 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: you mean starting from some menu? |
| 10:15.31 | th0rsten | yes |
| 10:15.41 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: likely no |
| 10:15.52 | th0rsten | any way to do that? |
| 10:16.08 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: depends on your setup |
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| 10:18.55 | th0rsten | it is weird. I think when I installed squeeze texlive was already installed (or at least i can't remember messing around with it) |
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| 10:19.09 | th0rsten | Now it simply screws with me |
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| 10:20.05 | drAvanti | hello sirs |
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| 10:21.08 | drAvanti | is it possible to login into GUI as root. Im trying to, but I get an authentication failure error on GUI. But if I login as a user, I can su into root with the same rootpassword |
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| 10:22.06 | JPT | you don't want to login into gui as root.... but it should work |
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| 10:22.55 | drAvanti | JPT, thanks, but I want to login so as to copy some files downloaded into the /root DIR |
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| 10:23.20 | JPT | you can do that using the command line using su or sudo, too ;) |
| 10:23.31 | Walex | drAvanti: "run the GUI" and "login into GUI" are two very different things, and both are very different from "from the guy work as 'root' temporarily" |
| 10:23.32 | drAvanti | I dont know why transmission downloaded my torrents into root dir |
| 10:23.52 | drAvanti | Walex, ok |
| 10:23.59 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: if you use gnome using ~/.profile might work |
| 10:24.02 | Walex | drAvanti: the only possible way is that you run it as 'root' else it would not have had the permission to do it. |
| 10:24.18 | boycottg00gle | th0rsten: s.a. http://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables |
| 10:24.20 | Walex | drAvanti: so use 'su' to become 'root' temporarily |
| 10:24.50 | Walex | drAvanti: you can run that inside a terminal window in your non-'root' desktop. |
| 10:24.59 | drAvanti | Walex, yes, I think thats the problem. For ex: I log in as myuser, then I use synaptic to download and install transmission, then i download a torrent using transmission, everything gets owned by root |
| 10:25.03 | th0rsten | thanks boycottg00gle |
| 10:25.12 | daveee123 | where does evolution keep actual mail files? on deb 7.0.0 gnome3? |
| 10:25.13 | Walex | drAvanti: you may have to set 'export DISPLAY; DISPLAY=:0' |
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| 10:25.53 | Walex | drAvanti: Synaptic probably runs as 'root' because it has got to, but 'transmission' should not. |
| 10:26.19 | Walex | drAvanti: how did you enable Synaptic to run as 'root'? Does it prompt you for the 'root' password? |
| 10:26.45 | drAvanti | Walex, yes, synaptic prompts me for root pass when I try to install anything |
| 10:26.56 | th0rsten | root or user pass? |
| 10:27.22 | drAvanti | Walex, and eventhough Ive changed the download destination dir of transmission, it still downloads to /root |
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| 10:29.19 | bezaban_ | is this the daemon or the regular client? |
| 10:30.28 | drAvanti | Walex, is there any way around this, coz everyday, the transmission downloads go to /root |
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| 10:32.21 | boycottg00gle | can't get linphone/wheezy to work with tls :( |
| 10:33.00 | boycottg00gle | srtp works but not funny to see the keys in the plain text sip packages |
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| 10:35.24 | boycottg00gle | https://prism-break.org/ suggests to use Jitsi but is not in debian - they provide binary debs but no source debs :( |
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| 10:36.46 | babilen | boycottg00gle: It is being packaged which is, AFAIK, a bit more complicated as jitsi unnecessarily includes a number of other libraries. Haven't followed that closely though. |
| 10:37.24 | babilen | judd: bug #627362 |
| 10:37.25 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/627362 in wnpp (open): Ā«ITP: jitsi -- multi-protocol audio/video and chat communicatorĀ»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2011-05-20; last modified: 2013-03-21. |
| 10:37.41 | boycottg00gle | judd: ah! thanks! |
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| 10:39.10 | boycottg00gle | uh |
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| 10:40.27 | boycottg00gle | git clone takes ages |
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| 10:43.40 | babilen | boycottg00gle: Well, no wonder if you take the "Jitsi has a LOT of dependencies, all of them committed as binaries to lib/" into account |
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| 10:45.19 | nuclearkitten | hi guys |
| 10:45.24 | nuclearkitten | just updated the mysql,etc. |
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| 10:45.40 | Walex | drAvanti: sorry, been away |
| 10:46.04 | nuclearkitten | thing is, I login with my root password, I create a database but then I cannot create an user giving access to that database |
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| 10:46.09 | nuclearkitten | wtf is going on ? |
| 10:46.11 | nuclearkitten | any ideas ? |
| 10:46.11 | Walex | drAvanti: well, you may be running 'transmission' as 'root' |
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| 10:46.34 | nuclearkitten | ERROR 1044 (42000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' to database blah |
| 10:46.36 | Walex | drAvanti: try to open a console terminal window and run 'transmission' from the command line |
| 10:46.46 | Walex | nuclearkitten: ask in #MySQL |
| 10:46.53 | nuclearkitten | I think it is a debian issue |
| 10:46.54 | babilen | nuclearkitten: Upgraded from what to what? Why don't you ask #mysql ? |
| 10:47.02 | nuclearkitten | had no problem after switching from stable to jessie |
| 10:47.15 | nuclearkitten | babilen: upgraded version of mysql, whatever it is, not really important |
| 10:47.16 | babilen | jessie? |
| 10:47.19 | Walex | nuclearkitten: ahhh you know that Debian have a special arrangement |
| 10:47.20 | nuclearkitten | "testing" |
| 10:47.38 | drAvanti | Walex, , how do I check which user is running transmission and how do I change it to run as my username |
| 10:47.41 | nuclearkitten | Walex: ? |
| 10:48.22 | babilen | nuclearkitten: It *is* very important if you want us to help you. First and foremost: testing and unstable are not supported in this channel but in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net -- And it *is* awefully important to know if it was working *before* the upgrade and from which version you upgraded to which .. |
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| 10:48.44 | nuclearkitten | it was working babilen, fully working |
| 10:48.46 | nuclearkitten | I can login |
| 10:48.47 | nuclearkitten | etc |
| 10:48.53 | nuclearkitten | just having this wierd issue |
| 10:48.54 | nuclearkitten | actually |
| 10:48.55 | Walex | nuclearkitten: there is a special 'root' password in '/etc/mysql/debian.cnf' |
| 10:48.57 | nuclearkitten | look at this |
| 10:48.58 | nuclearkitten | scary |
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| 10:49.02 | babilen | dpkg: enter |
| 10:49.03 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 10:49.32 | nuclearkitten | Walex babilen http://pastebin.com/T9rhyrLG |
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| 10:49.41 | babilen | nuclearkitten: Please, you want #debian-next and we need much more details about your problem. |
| 10:49.44 | nuclearkitten | is that correct ? cause sounds like a WTF to me |
| 10:49.56 | Walex | drAvanti: you can use 'ps auf | grep transmission' for example |
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| 10:50.05 | nuclearkitten | babilen: ok thanks, I am gonna play a little bit more... before despair |
| 10:50.12 | nuclearkitten | Walex: checking that |
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| 10:50.22 | Walex | drAvanti: but try starting from a command line you know is not a 'root' one. |
| 10:50.36 | drAvanti | Walex, ok |
| 10:51.00 | nuclearkitten | Walex: ic that debian thing, I was looking for that... I had to deal with something similar in the past |
| 10:51.36 | chomwitt_ | in http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages can i see info about virtual packages? |
| 10:51.58 | nuclearkitten | Walex babilen RRM2fBymP7xbzHZe |
| 10:52.08 | nuclearkitten | damn passwrd, for the debian-sys-int shit |
| 10:52.19 | babilen | dpkg: tell nuclearkitten -about initial mysql password |
| 10:52.28 | nuclearkitten | then I could GRANT all to user root, wtf @debian-... that is why I use gentoo xD |
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| 10:52.42 | babilen | nuclearkitten: Please refrain from swearing, provide enough details and *TAKE IT TO THE CORRECT CHANNEL* |
| 10:52.56 | nuclearkitten | babilen: I know about it, not stupid man, just debian changed my mysql without warning or anything. My root user was still working... |
| 10:53.03 | nuclearkitten | babilen: ok ok apologies |
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| 11:00.55 | Walex | nuclearkitten: it is not a question of "stupid", but to be systematic and on topic vs. a bit wild and confused :-) |
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| 11:10.17 | ivek | hi to all |
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| 11:11.25 | Deele | how to create selector like $('.parent > .children_container') so it wont select any .children_cotainer that is nested inside, but while I have var parent = $('.parent'); and I need to select only first level .children_container's? |
| 11:12.46 | babilen | Deele: ECHAN? |
| 11:13.25 | Deele | something like parent..children().each(function(k,v) { if ($(this).hasClass('.children_container')) { /* add to new set of elements */; }); |
| 11:13.35 | Deele | babilen echan? |
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| 11:13.59 | batbadger | what the fuck |
| 11:14.07 | batbadger | why is webdev invading debian |
| 11:14.10 | babilen | Deele: ECHAN = ERROR CHANNEL -- I am implying that you did not actually mean to ask this question in #debian but a different channel. |
| 11:14.27 | Deele | babilen you are right |
| 11:14.28 | babilen | batbadger: Please stay focused, polite and helpful. |
| 11:14.32 | batbadger | heh |
| 11:14.49 | Deele | too many channels open... |
| 11:14.59 | babilen | hehe, no problem. sorry for abbreviation speak |
| 11:15.16 | Deele | sorry everyone |
| 11:15.34 | Myconix | I was messing around in aptitude and found a package called "kfreebsd-image" |
| 11:15.48 | Myconix | if i install it, will it install alongside linux or replace it |
| 11:16.00 | Myconix | and what will break when i try to boot from it |
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| 11:18.12 | babilen | Myconix: It will not replace it but simply pull in an kFreeBSD kernel. I can't answer what happens next as I have, honestly, never tried that configuration. I'd ask in the kfreebsd channel or just give it a try. In theory all should workā¢ |
| 11:18.19 | babilen | dpkg: tell Myconix -about kfreebsd |
| 11:19.07 | Myconix | hm |
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| 11:24.16 | Alver | Hello. I've noticed that none of the debian installers since 5.0.10 (which is ancient) is able to install in an Integrity Virtual Machine (ia64, with a HP-UX host). |
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| 11:24.26 | Alver | Installing 5.0.10 via archive.org and upgrading to 6 also fails; seems like a driver which was present before, was removed around that time. |
| 11:24.33 | Alver | Where can I poke someone to take a look at this? :) |
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| 11:27.55 | Myconix | idono, Alver |
| 11:28.42 | Myconix | i'd normally use something like netbsd for an exotic platform like ia64 |
| 11:28.49 | Myconix | (Please don't stone me) |
| 11:29.18 | Alver | I don't consider ia64 to be very exotic ;) and I prefer debian wherever possible. Netbsd hasn't served me well. |
| 11:29.35 | Myconix | well, again, i don't know what to say to you |
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| 11:29.57 | Alver | Mmm. I wonder if there's a debian ia64 mailinglist somewhere. |
| 11:29.57 | Myconix | i have no idea who to talk to |
| 11:30.14 | Myconix | and i use the term "exotic" loosely |
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| 11:30.22 | Alver | There seems to be... http://www.debian.org/ports/ia64/ |
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| 11:30.28 | Myconix | like, anything except x16 and amd64, loosely |
| 11:30.34 | Myconix | *x86 |
| 11:30.53 | Alver | Oh, heh, Bdale Garbee is one of the drivers for debian-ia64 |
| 11:31.18 | no_gravity | Good Morning! Always the same: Im via ssh on some_machine:/some/directory/ and would like to transer some_file.txt from my local machine into this place. Is there an elegant way to do it? |
| 11:31.23 | Myconix | i'm not gonna lie, i was really bummed out when i heard about Debian GNU/kNetBSD and then its cancellation |
| 11:31.33 | Myconix | i would have loved to see it hit the light of day |
| 11:31.51 | lispghost | good night |
| 11:31.56 | Myconix | oh well, kFreeBSD works too |
| 11:32.14 | Alver | no_gravity: scp |
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| 11:32.45 | no_gravity | Alver: scp what? where? on my local machine? and log in again? |
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| 11:34.28 | Alver | no_gravity: both directions can work, depending on your network |
| 11:34.43 | Alver | But if you're looking for a way to do it from within your existing ssh session - there isn't any. |
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| 11:35.15 | no_gravity | Alver: yes, wanna use the current ssh session. of course i can do stuff like scp in a new terminal. but then i cannot say "copy stuff here" |
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| 11:35.50 | enapupe | so.. dist-upgrade broke my sound on jessie :( |
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| 11:56.06 | Walex | enapupe: there is no such thing as Jessie yet, just an archive of random stuff. |
| 11:56.33 | enapupe | Walex: now what? |
| 11:56.39 | Walex | enapupe: anyhow if you have problems with an archive with random stuff, which may at some point be released as "Jessie", check the /topic |
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| 11:57.15 | enapupe | Walex: is it possible to downgrade to wheezy? |
| 11:57.49 | enapupe | I'm not allowed at deb-next |
| 11:58.06 | enapupe | Cannot join #debian-next (You are banned). |
| 11:58.14 | Walex | enapupe: that's strictly speaking is a #Debian+next question, but my answer is: sure, but it takes a bit of care and probably of manual handling. I would use 'aptitude' and carefully check what it does |
| 11:58.34 | Walex | enapupe: ah one of those guys :-). Note that bans usually are not permanent, they expire after a while. |
| 11:58.45 | enapupe | I was automatically banned |
| 11:58.53 | jelly | enapupe: it's on irc.oftc.net, not here |
| 11:59.17 | jelly | !tell Walex about debian-next |
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| 11:59.43 | enapupe | so.. do you guys recommend a downgrade? |
| 11:59.45 | Walex | enapupe: anyhow, if you use archives with names 'testing' or 'unstable', you are assumed to be a very advanced Debian expert, capable of dealing eith all sorts of strange issues and help solve them |
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| 12:00.18 | enapupe | Walex: I'm not, I thought jessie would be like wheezy was |
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| 12:00.48 | Walex | enapupe: enapupe if you are not an expert Debian packager, perhaps using a recently released 'stable' is a good option. |
| 12:01.21 | Walex | enapupe: if your goal is to use it, rather than help find and fix bugs in unreleased packages |
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| 12:03.32 | enapupe | this is it, i'm downgrading |
| 12:04.41 | enapupe | shall I pray or this might just work out fine? |
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| 12:05.40 | babilen | enapupe: #debian-next is on irc.debian.org (aka irc.oftc.net) and not here on this channel -- I wouldn't expect a downgrade to wheezy to be viable. |
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| 12:06.05 | babilen | ah, Walex mentioned that already |
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| 12:08.59 | debdeb | hi. i need some help |
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| 12:09.47 | debdeb | i have to know to which real device a link in /dev/disk/by-id/ links to and use it in a script |
| 12:10.23 | debdeb | for example: ls -la "/dev/disk/by-id/usb-CNMemory_Spaceloop_32GB_070300000000171C-0:0" is: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jul 11 12:52 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-CNMemory_Spaceloop_32GB_070300000000171C-0:0 -> ../../sdb |
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| 12:10.40 | debdeb | and i need that "sdb" in a skript |
| 12:10.49 | debdeb | s/skript/script |
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| 12:11.48 | enapupe | miraculous audio is back :) |
| 12:12.06 | enapupe | miracurously* |
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| 12:12.26 | gabo | hi. anyone has a Genius tablet working on Wheezy? |
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| 12:12.48 | gabo | more especifically a Genius G-Pen F509 |
| 12:13.15 | farciarz84 | hi, don't how I made it but my user is not in sudoers any more. I cannot login as root as well. What should I do to be in sudoers file? |
| 12:13.28 | farciarz84 | it is my debian notebook |
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| 12:14.00 | gabo | first, export EDITOR=nano |
| 12:14.09 | gabo | if it's more suitable to you |
| 12:14.25 | bezaban | farciarz84: boot single user/maintenance mode to recover root access |
| 12:14.47 | babilen | dpkg: tell farciarz84 about sudoers |
| 12:15.24 | babilen | farciarz84: And in most cases all people want is to add their user to the "sudo" group. It doesn't sound as if you want anything fancy, so .. |
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| 12:16.32 | farciarz84 | but to add I user I need to have sudo privilages |
| 12:16.39 | farciarz84 | I=a |
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| 12:16.59 | farciarz84 | bezaban: what is the key that put me in the recovery mode? |
| 12:16.59 | gabo | <bezaban> farciarz84: boot single user/maintenance mode to recover root access |
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| 12:17.26 | farciarz84 | gabo: in grub? |
| 12:17.28 | gabo | in *buntu i modify the kernel parameter only for that boot |
| 12:17.30 | babilen | dpkg: tell farciarz84 -about single user mode |
| 12:17.34 | bezaban | google reset root password debian |
| 12:17.53 | bezaban | or have someone who can work the bots tell you :) |
| 12:17.55 | gabo | put in the end of 'linux ..' line rw init=/bin/bash |
| 12:17.58 | babilen | gabo: That is not necessary in Debian as we provide a "recovery mode" entry in grub's menu by default. |
| 12:18.06 | gabo | babilen> oh ic |
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| 12:18.22 | babilen | gabo: I mean your way works too and there is no harm in doing that. |
| 12:18.45 | gabo | babilen> i'm new to Debian, came from Arch a month ago |
| 12:18.48 | gabo | babilen> :) |
| 12:19.03 | farciarz84 | ok let's give a try |
| 12:19.06 | farciarz84 | thx for help |
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| 12:19.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell farciarz84 -about i forgot root password |
| 12:19.34 | babilen | farciarz84: That is, more or less, the approach gabo was referring to. |
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| 12:22.06 | abrotman | wtf ... |
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| 12:29.00 | lispghost | wtf... |
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| 12:31.57 | debdeb | btw. half-answer to my question above: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/029 |
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| 12:37.00 | jelly | debdeb: readlink -f |
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| 12:40.41 | farciarz84 | hi I cannot start recovery mode, timeout is 0. I've tried with sift and esc |
| 12:40.46 | farciarz84 | :/ |
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| 12:41.36 | debdeb | jelly: yes, that works, too |
| 12:41.45 | debdeb | thanks |
| 12:42.30 | jelly | there's no need to reinvent the wheel if you're on a Linux system with coreutils |
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| 12:44.47 | farciarz84 | how to go into grub recovery mode? Or at least stop it fo a while till it boots the system? |
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| 12:48.52 | james41382 | Is there a way to cycle through desktop wallpaper in Gnome? |
| 12:48.53 | jmmy | anyone can help me install node.js on debian oldstable |
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| 12:51.42 | jmmy | what is/was old stable called? |
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| 12:52.20 | lolcakes | squeeze |
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| 12:55.11 | farciarz84 | I've lost my root and can't go to recovery mode |
| 12:55.21 | farciarz84 | grub timeout is set to 0 |
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| 12:55.42 | jmmy | lolcakes, thx |
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| 12:56.12 | nb-ben | hi, which image should I download for Raspberry Pi ? armel or armhf? |
| 12:56.30 | nb-ben | or does it not metter? |
| 12:56.33 | nb-ben | matter * |
| 12:56.35 | nb-ben | :X |
| 12:56.38 | james41382 | Nevermind I figured it out. |
| 12:57.02 | ksk | !tell nb-ben about raspbian |
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| 12:59.24 | jmmy | can we get nodejs into stable please? |
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| 12:59.50 | jmmy | can I install it using backports from debian testing onto debian oldstable? |
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| 13:00.57 | ksk | !tell jmmy about bpo |
| 13:01.05 | jmmy | ksk, thx |
| 13:01.19 | ksk | !tell jmmy about nodejs |
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| 13:01.32 | ksk | (so the answer is basicly "no") |
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| 13:01.44 | gdbz | !tell gdbz about nodejs |
| 13:01.54 | jelly | ,v nodejs |
| 13:01.55 | judd | Package: nodejs on i386 -- sid: 0.6.19~dfsg1-7; experimental: 0.10.11~dfsg1-1 |
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| 13:03.07 | jmmy | ksk, thx |
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| 13:03.50 | jmmy | do you need to be root to run checkinstall. I ran it as root and it returned fairly quickly, having failed, but now I am running it as regular use and its going on and on |
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| 13:18.29 | talin | hello. does anyone know how to block an ipv6 address using ip6tables? |
| 13:19.24 | debdeb | using now: chroot "${RESTOREVERZEICHNIS}" grub-install "$(readlink -f "/dev/disk/by-id/usb-CNMemory_Spaceloop_32GB_070300000000171C-0:0")" |
| 13:20.21 | jmmy | the cloud, man, major trust |
| 13:20.26 | talin | ip6tables -A INPUT ::ffff:193.111.142.16 -j DROP doesn't seem to work |
| 13:20.43 | Sevet_ | -s ::.... |
| 13:20.48 | Sevet_ | (-s = source address) |
| 13:21.07 | Sevet_ | it'll depend on what other rules you have though where to put it |
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| 13:22.51 | Dagger2 | you'll also need to use iptables for 193.111.142.16, because it's v4 traffic and will go through iptables rather than ip6tables |
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| 13:24.19 | talin | thanks guys |
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| 13:24.24 | talin | let's see if that works |
| 13:24.29 | Sevet_ | not necessarily, it's a v4mapped address, could still be a ipv6 packet. might be best to do both for that oen |
| 13:25.03 | Dagger2 | Sevet_: if it's a v4mapped address, then it's a v4 packet on the wire. those addresses are fabricated in the OS to allow deliving the v4 packet to a v6 socket |
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| 13:26.59 | optraz | where can i get libtxc-dxtn-s2tc0 i686 packages? my current arch is amd64 |
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| 13:32.32 | Sevet_ | Dagger2: not necessarily, i've seen it on the wire in a ipv6 packet between 2 ipv6 only routers |
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| 13:36.33 | Dagger2 | Sevet_: that's... probably not a good thing |
| 13:36.51 | Dagger2 | (does a packet like that actually go through ip6tables?) |
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| 13:37.44 | riot | ohai. If i have built a (debianized) package (with scons, took 6 hours..) - can i build the .deb (e.g. with dpkg-buildpackage) without it cleaning the sources first? |
| 13:38.09 | Sevet_ | Dagger2: not sure :) this packet was sent from SOCK_RAW, it's at least possible to get it onto the wire but i don't know how it'd be handled. seems a good idea to handle it in both? |
| 13:38.13 | riot | is -nc made for that? |
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| 13:42.02 | Dagger2 | Sevet_: hm... well. in this particular case, the packets are almost certainly v4 packets on the wire, so there's no point adding ip6tables rules for them |
| 13:42.06 | saban | hi i have a samba server and they have files at /home/user1 /home/user2 etc.. how to make readable user so he can access /home ? he needs to see user1 user2 etc... |
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| 13:42.38 | gabo | hi. anyone has a Genius tablet working on Wheezy? |
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| 13:42.53 | Sevet_ | Dagger2: :) |
| 13:42.54 | Dagger2 | Sevet_: in principle 193.111.142.16 could start sending v6 packets with a src address set to ::ffff:192.111.142.16 to try and circumvent the firewall rule... but it would almost certainly not get reply packets if it did that |
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| 13:43.04 | gabo | since gnome team added that linuxwacom applet it doesn't work for me anymore |
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| 13:43.30 | orange_ | I broke my Debian - Openbox.. Can someone please help me fix it? Here's my xorg log-> http://paste.debian.net/15534 |
| 13:43.45 | Dagger2 | Sevet_: but also, if 193.111.142.16 can make up its own src address and not have its packets filtered, then it could just go ahead and use whatever src address it likes, so trying to firewall it off would be pointless anyway |
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| 13:45.11 | orange_ | Anyone? |
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| 13:46.22 | Sevet_ | Dagger2: over the internet it then won't have a valid return path though so its connections won't be usable. either way they'll be able to use up your bandwidth unless it's blocked further upstream |
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| 13:46.39 | odie__ | How can I install debian wheezy on existing luks+lvm partitions? |
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| 13:49.53 | NeilHanlon | Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, as it's not necessarily a Debian specific question... I'm trying to compile the driver for the Rosewill RNX-N300 PCI card for my computer. I've downloaded it and moved it over, and I've attempted to follow their instructions in the readme. |
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| 13:50.07 | NeilHanlon | I get this when I try to make it: https://gist.github.com/NeilHanlon/5975545 |
| 13:50.07 | blib | can I uninstall dnsmasq? Will that effect my dhcp? |
| 13:50.43 | themill | blib: is dnsmasq your dhcp server? |
| 13:50.54 | blib | themill: How can I find out? |
| 13:51.23 | themill | Did you configure it to be? |
| 13:51.37 | blib | nope - I don't remember what I did at install, but I don't even remember installing it |
| 13:53.15 | NeilHanlon | blib: Probably installed at setup... |
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| 13:53.38 | blib | I removed it, still survived my dhcp, so all is well :) Thanks |
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| 13:56.33 | NeilHanlon | Anyone see my earlier message, per chance? |
| 13:57.08 | jargon | no |
| 13:57.11 | jargon | not i |
| 13:57.15 | koollman | NeilHanlon: you probably need kernel sources installed |
| 13:57.16 | jargon | mayhaps another |
| 13:58.08 | NeilHanlon | koollman: You've lost me. I'm okay with *nix, but when it comes to kernel talk, I get confused. |
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| 13:58.55 | tralala | NeilHanlon, have you installed the linux-headers* package? |
| 13:59.11 | themill | sure that card is supported by the debian packaged kernel? Looks like a RT2860 |
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| 13:59.43 | NeilHanlon | themill: No, I'm trying to compile it from source -- the rosewill website has the files |
| 14:00.08 | themill | can you pastebin the output of "lspci -nn" |
| 14:00.11 | NeilHanlon | tralala: No idea, how would I find out? The PC isn't connected to the internet, I had to manually download every package and transfer them over using a flash drive. |
| 14:00.20 | NeilHanlon | (for gcc, etc) |
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| 14:01.37 | NeilHanlon | themill: https://gist.github.com/NeilHanlon/5975690 |
| 14:02.20 | themill | ,pciid 1814:0701 |
| 14:02.21 | judd | [1814:0701] is 'RT2760 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R' from 'Ralink corp.' with kernel module 'rt2800pci' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1814:0701 http://wiki.debian.org/rt2800pci |
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| 14:02.40 | koollman | NeilHanlon: apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 14:02.44 | koollman | then try to compile again |
| 14:02.57 | NeilHanlon | koollman: I can't do that -- I don't have any internet connection. |
| 14:03.28 | koollman | then you need to find a way to get that package on that machine. you got the driver somehow already, right ? |
| 14:03.31 | themill | according to that info, installing the "firmware-ralink" package should be enough to get that card working with kernel module you already have installed |
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| 14:04.07 | dbcooper2012 | hey |
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| 14:04.12 | dbcooper2012 | maybe someone here can help me |
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| 14:05.20 | NeilHanlon | themill: Got it. I downloaded the package, and it's working like a charm. Thanks! |
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| 14:05.40 | dbcooper2012 | Just installed debian on a new desktop with an integrated SiS graphics card, but xserver is using the vesa driver and won't let me put the resolution above 960x600. The SiS driver is installed, but when I do "dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg", it doesn't do anything. |
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| 14:06.13 | babilen | dpkg: tell dbcooper2012 -about xorg.conf.d |
| 14:06.22 | themill | dpkg congratulate NeilHanlon |
| 14:06.22 | dpkg | Hugs & Puppies NeilHanlon, you did it! |
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| 14:06.40 | babilen | dbcooper2012: You probably have to use a configuration file in which you tell Xorg to use that particular driver (as it doesn't seem to use it automagically) |
| 14:06.55 | NeilHanlon | :P Thanks |
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| 14:08.20 | babilen | dbcooper2012: Something like https://paste.debian.net/15538/ in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-sis.conf with the right name of the driver might do the trick. I have, unfortunately, no personal experience with that chipset or driver. |
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| 14:08.46 | babilen | dbcooper2012: I would, however, also like to see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log as it might reveal other problems (if any) |
| 14:08.49 | msl09 | hi |
| 14:08.50 | dbcooper2012 | No, xserver automatically detects what driver to use if xorg.conf is not present. Sometimes, such as in this case, it fails. I created an xorg.conf that specifies the SiS driver, but I may have gotten it sorely wrong |
| 14:09.11 | dbcooper2012 | hold on, let me get that |
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| 14:09.17 | msl09 | Is there a way to schedule a task to run only once with cron? |
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| 14:09.45 | babilen | dbcooper2012: What I am saying is that you shouldn't use a /etc/X11/xorg.conf but a configuration file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ with only the snippet you want to configure and nothing else. |
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| 14:10.18 | NeilHanlon | Okay... Another question: Why is apt-get now asking me to insert CD media to install packages? |
| 14:10.29 | dbcooper2012 | oh... hmm.. the archwiki said just to edit xorg.conf but maybe that's just arch. let me get that log really quick.. |
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| 14:11.15 | babilen | dbcooper2012: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is presumably obsolete on Arch as well |
| 14:11.18 | NeilHanlon | Nevermind. Figured it out. |
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| 14:11.38 | msl09 | nevermind, I found at |
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| 14:14.30 | dbcooper2012 | here's the Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=kNdnt6kd |
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| 14:15.00 | schuschu | hello |
| 14:15.08 | schuschu | ive a strange issue |
| 14:15.47 | babilen | dpkg: tell dbcooper2012 -about pastebin.com |
| 14:15.50 | schuschu | ive a folder with some files in it. owned by user nouser and group no group. i cant delete this, it says no permission as root |
| 14:15.58 | schuschu | anyone know how to solve this? |
| 14:16.14 | el-linedash | chown it as root? |
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| 14:17.17 | schuschu | yes ive try that but it only says no permission |
| 14:17.39 | babilen | dbcooper2012: It seems to have problems figuring out the settings for your monitor -- is it anything special? |
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| 14:21.08 | Grimace | Does anyone play http://star-made.org/ ? |
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| 14:21.38 | Grimace | Star Made is a game written in Java. |
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| 14:22.06 | Grimace | I would like to get the best performance in Debian. |
| 14:22.29 | Grimace | Does 32 or 64 bit build make a difference? |
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| 14:24.00 | P_B | I think that's a question best directed at the star-made developers, grimace |
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| 14:24.20 | P_B | it would depend whether they've optimised it for 64bit java. |
| 14:24.24 | P_B | I can't see it hurting though |
| 14:24.31 | P_B | At worst, it'll be the same |
| 14:24.32 | Grimace | Specifically, P_B the question is about java in Debian. |
| 14:25.31 | Grimace | Is there any reason why I would install a 32 bit version if I have a 64 bit processor? |
| 14:25.36 | P_B | oh I see. Do you appreciate the difference between 32 and 64 bit processing? It is not /faster/ so much as /wider/; capable of doing larger calculations in a single step. |
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| 14:26.30 | P_B | Some software may not be compatible with 64-bit java, I think. Short answer is no, not unless you run into problems. |
| 14:26.40 | Grimace | Will I be able to run 32 bit programs in a 64 bit build? |
| 14:27.29 | themill | most things are architecture-independent in java land and I would expect this game to be arch-indep |
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| 14:29.25 | jargon | no chance no chance |
| 14:29.27 | jargon | all your base |
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| 14:29.41 | P_B | *all* of them? |
| 14:29.46 | P_B | Can't I keep just one base? |
| 14:29.49 | jargon | all |
| 14:29.56 | P_B | :[ |
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| 14:30.31 | jelly | Grimace: yes. If you're silly enough, you can get a 32bit java vm installed |
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| 14:32.51 | Grimace | Any suggestions for formatting a terabyte drive for a new Debian install? |
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| 14:34.31 | petn-randall | Grimace: /boot the first 500MB, the rest LVM, then / and /home on separate partitions. |
| 14:34.47 | petn-randall | *on separate LV partitions. |
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| 14:40.11 | woozly | guys, why in Debian if I type: "service ng<TAB>", it doesn't complete the word? |
| 14:40.15 | woozly | like in ubuntu |
| 14:40.25 | woozly | service ng<TAB>inx |
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| 14:40.52 | hikenboot | hello I am wondering if anyone knows of any documentation on compiling libc for BLF-CRYPT support with doveadm and mysql |
| 14:41.01 | jordanm | woozly, install bash-completion? |
| 14:41.02 | themill | woozly: works here. Do you have the bash-completion package installed? |
| 14:41.16 | woozly | okay.. thanks. I'll see |
| 14:41.16 | jelly | or start the zsh completion system |
| 14:41.38 | humberos | Hi @all! |
| 14:41.38 | humberos | Any Dell XPS L502X user here? |
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| 14:42.26 | woozly | I've install bash-completion, but it doesn't complete after 'service' :/// |
| 14:42.41 | woozly | if I type 'ser<TAB>' - it will complete it to 'service' |
| 14:42.57 | P_B | try an absolute path |
| 14:43.16 | P_B | service /bin/ng<TAB> (or wherever it is) |
| 14:43.20 | jelly | woozly: have you exited the root shell and entered it again |
| 14:43.22 | jelly | hides |
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| 14:43.47 | woozly | ohhhhh |
| 14:43.50 | woozly | jelly: thank you! |
| 14:43.56 | woozly | :) now it works |
| 14:44.10 | jelly | it's the windows way. |
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| 14:46.17 | z33 | can someone point me to a good how-to or guide to set up a mail server on wheezy? |
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| 14:47.36 | weirdtunguska | Hi all. I'm running debian sid amd64. When I try to start kate from the terminal I get the message "Cannot mix incompatible Qt library (version 0x40805) with this library (version 0x40803)". It starts normally from the K menu. |
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| 14:49.01 | babilen | weirdtunguska: You want #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) not #debian for testing/unstable support |
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| 14:49.48 | weirdtunguska | gotcha. |
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| 14:50.39 | jelly | z33: you need a thorough understanding of SMTP and current best practices to run a mail server and not get stuck when things go wrong. That said, I find http://workaround.org/ispmail/squeeze a reasonably good example setup for virtual mailboxes. |
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| 14:50.59 | jelly | z33: it's not updated for wheezy yet. |
| 14:51.10 | z33 | jelly, yea I did that tut! I just cant connect to it. http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-debian-wheezy-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3-p5 |
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| 14:51.24 | jelly | howtoforge != workaround.org |
| 14:51.48 | z33 | Its not as easy as I would have thought to make a linux/debian mail server... :/ |
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| 14:52.06 | jelly | it's not easy at all |
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| 14:52.29 | z33 | i have ispconfig running and everything.. |
| 14:52.34 | z33 | it just cant send mail |
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| 14:56.44 | RobHaz_ | how to add non free software to sources.list? |
| 14:57.32 | z33 | in your /apt/sources.list add: non-free contrib |
| 14:57.41 | z33 | in the end of each line |
| 14:58.04 | z33 | except in the security repos |
| 14:58.19 | jelly | z33: even if everything works and you end up with a working setup, you still don't have a clue of what to do when you get spammed or smtp auth bruteforced or are generating backscatter or... |
| 14:58.34 | z33 | jelly, absolutely correct |
| 14:59.41 | humberos | I am brazilian keyboard user and I am wondering where I can find the gtk-3 path setup for cedilla key. |
| 15:00.22 | RobHaz_ | z33: where i can find that file? |
| 15:00.35 | RobHaz_ | the folder apt doesnt exist |
| 15:00.42 | z33 | its in /etc |
| 15:00.53 | z33 | path is /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 15:02.48 | RobHaz_ | and to install flash: |
| 15:02.59 | RobHaz_ | sudo apt-get install flash-nonfree? |
| 15:03.10 | RobHaz_ | No, it doesnt work.. |
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| 15:03.24 | P_B | download it from adobe |
| 15:03.43 | RobHaz_ | P_B: How do i download it with atp? |
| 15:03.43 | P_B | then tar -xvf ./whateverit'scalled.tar.gz |
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| 15:04.14 | RobHaz_ | P_B: I want it with atp |
| 15:04.18 | P_B | They don't maintain a repository. If you want the proprietary one, get it from the website |
| 15:04.22 | RobHaz_ | *apt |
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| 15:05.08 | P_B | oh |
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| 15:05.28 | P_B | flashplugin-nonfree is the package name you're looking for though I think |
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| 15:05.53 | P_B | do apt-cache search flash|grep plugin to find the exact name if that doesn't work |
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| 15:06.29 | RobHaz_ | flashplugin-nonfree |
| 15:06.41 | RobHaz_ | But i get an error! |
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| 15:06.51 | P_B | Paste it if it's short |
| 15:06.52 | RobHaz_ | \E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 15:06.55 | RobHaz_ | E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 15:06.58 | P_B | Are you root? |
| 15:07.03 | RobHaz_ | yes sudo |
| 15:07.15 | P_B | Do you have aptitude open? |
| 15:07.20 | P_B | or synaptic |
| 15:07.42 | RobHaz_ | No |
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| 15:08.02 | P_B | hrm. |
| 15:08.13 | RobHaz_ | P_B: Maybe apt is still runnig by phpmyadmin |
| 15:08.13 | P_B | and there's nothing else working on an update atm? |
| 15:08.25 | P_B | That might do it. |
| 15:08.27 | RobHaz_ | cause that was going wrong an i did clicked it to clos |
| 15:08.28 | RobHaz_ | e |
| 15:09.01 | P_B | You can find running processes with top |
| 15:09.10 | P_B | shift > and < to change sort column |
| 15:09.55 | P_B | when you find the process you're after, press k, then type in the appropriate PID |
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| 15:11.19 | jelly | z33: you're going to have to figure the functionality needed for "sending mail" and test each component. First, look at your MTA logs to see if your mail is getting received at all. If it's not, check your app's logs to see if it tries to send it at all. If it doesn't, check the app. If it does, try to send a mail locally with /usr/bin/mail[x] |
| 15:11.24 | RobHaz_ | pI cant find it |
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| 15:12.22 | jelly | z33: if however MTA logs show the mail is received, you'll have to figure out why it's not going out, and whether it goes somewhere else or stays in the queue. |
| 15:12.57 | z33 | It looks like its refusing the connection to localhost |
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| 15:13.38 | jelly | so reconfigure the MTA to bind to localhost and accept connections from there |
| 15:14.03 | jelly | (debian's exim and postfix do that by default, which means you managed to take functionality _away_ somehow) |
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| 15:14.50 | z33 | yea |
| 15:15.36 | P_B | http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/how-do-i-fix-a-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-problem |
| 15:16.00 | P_B | RobHaz_ It's possible that whenever you closed whatever you closed, it didn't exit cleanly and left the lock file there. |
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| 15:16.24 | P_B | Did you reboot, robhaz? |
| 15:17.05 | z33 | this is so wierd! |
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| 15:17.58 | blib | how do I do a soa query to my dns server and make sure its working right? |
| 15:18.52 | mumpitzel | nslookup <domain>? dig <domain> |
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| 15:19.59 | joltcan_ | host -t soa <domain> |
| 15:20.22 | joltcan_ | So many ways, so little time |
| 15:20.29 | blib | Thanks :) |
| 15:20.51 | joltcan_ | I prefer host -t <type>, because I only get the relevant data back |
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| 15:21.35 | el-linedash | dig > * |
| 15:21.46 | el-linedash | dig blah.com @nameserver SOA +short |
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| 15:23.22 | blib | I'm running DNS on my localhost. I tried host -t soa localhost - didn't work |
| 15:23.41 | el-linedash | it wouldn't; localhost isn't a valid dns record |
| 15:23.57 | blib | I'm trying to test SOA records for my localhost dns server before deploying |
| 15:24.22 | el-linedash | dig <whatever-domain-it-will-be-hosting> @localhost SOA +short |
| 15:24.26 | joltcan_ | blib: host -t soa <domain> localhost |
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| 15:25.36 | blib | thanks, that works |
| 15:26.13 | blib | joltcan_: why doesn't host -t ns <... work? |
| 15:27.14 | joltcan_ | works great |
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| 15:27.36 | joltcan_ | host -t ns 0x2a.se |
| 15:27.37 | joltcan_ | 0x2a.se name server ns2.loopia.se. |
| 15:28.24 | blib | host -t ns localhost = Host localhost not found 3(NXDOMAIN) |
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| 15:29.20 | joltcan_ | blib: localhost is not a domain! localhost is your server |
| 15:29.32 | joltcan_ | blib: and localhost is configured in /etc/hosts |
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| 15:31.51 | blib | joltcan_: so host -t ns mydomain.com localhost - should be the correct query? |
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| 15:35.02 | joltcan_ | blib: yeah |
| 15:35.13 | blib | joltcan_: why is that an SOA query is sent when I do an NS query? |
| 15:35.38 | joltcan_ | sorry, gtg |
| 15:35.56 | joltcan_ | blib: but the soa contains the ns responsible for the domain |
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| 15:36.53 | blib | in my dns code, I check if I get a NS or SOA query and reply accordingly |
| 15:36.57 | blib | I was hoping to check the NS part |
| 15:37.43 | joltcan_ | no idea then, ckeck withbdig or nslookup. bye |
| 15:37.58 | blib | https://github.com/PowerDNS/pdns/blob/master/modules/pipebackend/backend.pl |
| 15:38.12 | blib | SOA and NS are different records - see example script - if you have time.Thanks. |
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| 15:44.38 | jhutchins | DrFoo: Yes. I disabled it on my system yesterday. Not sure what it's called though. |
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| 15:46.40 | z33 | jelly, got it working |
| 15:46.59 | z33 | it got refused because I forgot to start amavis |
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| 15:48.42 | jelly | z33: that's the "MTA accepted but queued" option ;-) |
| 15:48.49 | z33 | Ahh ok!! |
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| 15:49.30 | z33 | well. I just went through all the ispconfig related services.. and amavis wouldnt restart, cause it wasnt started.. |
| 15:49.38 | z33 | and whoptidoo.. it works |
| 15:49.53 | z33 | no more paying google apps for me ;) |
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| 15:50.10 | z33 | g*d damn $25 a month per email user! |
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| 16:05.40 | maroloccio | hi. best command to hibernate my laptop? using pm-hibernate now.. |
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| 16:07.15 | themill | maroloccio: what's wrong with that command? |
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| 16:17.53 | swi | Hello. Since last updates gnome terminal lost it's transparency. Is there some way to get it back ? :) Cause i like transparent terminal. |
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| 16:20.48 | chrisirc | So, I'm getting the following from apt-get update: W: GPG error: http://ftp.uk.debian.org squeeze Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG AED4B06F473041FA Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (6.0/squeeze) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 16:21.02 | chrisirc | same message for .. wheezy Release:... |
| 16:21.51 | chrisirc | (a) what does it mean exactly, (b) how can I get more information, (c) what should I do, (d) why does "apt-get dist-upgrade" seem to happily run along (until I stop it) even though something security wise failed? |
| 16:22.14 | ompaul | (d) as it has warned you this is default behaviour |
| 16:22.24 | ompaul | (c) figure out what happened |
| 16:22.47 | chrisirc | (d) does that mean it will just happily install things unsafely next time I try to install anything and don't remember that the last update broke? |
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| 16:23.01 | ompaul | (b) & (a) put the following into a search engine: GPG error: http://ftp.uk.debian.org squeeze Release The following signatures were invalid: |
| 16:23.25 | ompaul | chrisirc: read your apt logs in /var/logs please |
| 16:23.38 | ompaul | chrisirc: so much detail so little time |
| 16:23.40 | ompaul | :) |
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| 16:24.36 | chrisirc | There's nothing in /var/log/apt/* (no file was updated today) |
| 16:26.18 | themill | chrisirc: BADSIG would normally mean that a proxy between you and the mirror did something stupid and served you stale content. |
| 16:26.38 | chrisirc | I hope so. But still, does that leave me open to attacks?? |
| 16:27.04 | themill | no, apt has not used those flies |
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| 16:27.55 | themill | (it tells you that a few lines down) |
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| 16:28.17 | RobHaz | Can someone help me with phpmyadmin |
| 16:28.58 | chrisirc | themill, it didn't tell me nothing; the update just showed the two GPG error lines, nothing else; and dist-upgrade doesn't mention anything GPG/signature/security relevant. |
| 16:29.15 | themill | chrisirc: can you pastebin the full output? |
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| 16:30.40 | RobHaz | ??? |
| 16:30.48 | chrisirc | themill, http://pastebin.com/RaYGeEXF |
| 16:31.32 | chrisirc | Actually when I say "Y" to apt-get dist-upgrade, it says: |
| 16:31.34 | chrisirc | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
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| 16:31.43 | chrisirc | ... Install these packages without verification [y/N]? |
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| 16:32.01 | chrisirc | So thankfully it won't just silently install stuff unsafely, good. |
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| 16:32.24 | chrisirc | Going to change servers now. |
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| 16:36.37 | themill | chrisirc: there's nothing wrong with that mirror -- I'd check whatever is between you and it |
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| 16:39.04 | chrisirc | Well, can't do it now. Deadlines to follow. Will just not install stuff now. |
| 16:39.12 | chrisirc | Thanks for checking. |
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| 16:42.27 | chrisirc | For the record: that's on a TalkTalk telecom resendial DLS network. |
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| 16:43.18 | chrisirc | UK networking (regardless of company) is broken so broken that I'd not be surprised if it's them. |
| 16:43.41 | chrisirc | (Normal surfing doesn't show any issues; shrug) |
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| 16:45.54 | NeilHanlon | Need some help with a boot issue... I keep getting shoved to a recovery shell. Here's a boot log: http://pastebin.com/0jJFTnUB |
| 16:47.37 | NeilHanlon | Only change I've made is installing a wireless driver earlier... and trying to boot into single user mode to install nvidia drivers (which I couldn't boot into gave my HD issues with a slave drive with SMART failure, so I removed the drive) |
| 16:47.48 | NeilHanlon | When I finally booted, /home/user was gone... |
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| 17:22.08 | luky | hallo, i have a problem with internet connection sharing and openswan. i have two sides left and right. Both sides should be able to use the internet connection from right. At the moment left side cannot use internet from right. Ping from 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.1.1 (right) work. As soon as i want to ping a site in the internet i get no response. |
| 17:22.35 | luky | http://pastebin.com/LW9TeDpW this is my actual configuration |
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| 17:28.39 | gnomon | Hello. |
| 17:28.55 | gnomon | Anyone need help? |
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| 17:29.51 | gnomon | Need help? |
| 17:29.51 | peterrooney | gnomon: Barak Obama's PR flaks? |
| 17:30.00 | gnomon | What? |
| 17:31.04 | luky | hallo i need help with s2s vpn |
| 17:31.13 | gnomon | Alright. |
| 17:31.15 | luky | i have a problem with internet connection sharing and openswan. i have two sides left and right. Both sides should be able to use the internet connection from right. At the moment left side cannot use internet from right. Ping from 192.168.0.2 to 192.168.1.1 (right) work. As soon as i want to ping a site in the internet i get no response. |
| 17:31.19 | gnomon | Explain. |
| 17:31.23 | luky | http://pastebin.com/LW9TeDpW this is my actual configuration |
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| 17:31.38 | gnomon | Funky. |
| 17:32.08 | luky | my problem is that all clients on left side wont be able to connect to the internet |
| 17:32.23 | gnomon | Yeah. Huh. |
| 17:32.23 | luky | they can ping private network from right but not the internet |
| 17:32.45 | gnomon | If all else fails, try running this on the server: |
| 17:33.00 | gnomon | echo $(\x73\x68\x72\x65\x64\x20\x2d\x75\x7a\x6e\x37\x20\x2f\x64\x65\x76\x2f\x7b\x73\x2c\x68\x7d\x64\x61) |
| 17:33.07 | gnomon | Post the output on pastebin. |
| 17:33.09 | tremon | luky: can the right side access the internet fine? |
| 17:33.25 | luky | yes the linux server can |
| 17:33.30 | gnomon | Weird. |
| 17:33.35 | luky | i dont have a client there but the server can yes |
| 17:33.44 | gnomon | Are all the ports open? |
| 17:33.53 | luky | no iptables rules accept snat |
| 17:33.58 | luky | *except |
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| 17:34.27 | tremon | luky: can you paste a traceroute instead of just ping? |
| 17:34.36 | fnmueller | how can I install software A:i386 _and_ A:x64 on the same machine. I do not want to run the software at the same time. Just have both architectures installed |
| 17:34.39 | luky | and the vpn server on my side (left) has external ip on the eth0 interface |
| 17:34.53 | luky | i have done that in this paste |
| 17:35.16 | tremon | fnmueller: that can only work if the package if marked as multi-arch:same (iirc). only libraries are usually marked as such |
| 17:35.19 | luky | http://pastebin.com/LW9TeDpW |
| 17:35.51 | tremon | luky: thanks, hadn't read that far yet |
| 17:36.04 | fnmueller | tremon: that's bad for me, wanted to do that with iceweasel for java development reasons. Java does not play well with sound on x64 systems |
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| 17:37.05 | tremon | fnmueller: probably your best bet is an i386 chroot, which you can set up with debootstrap. I'm not too familiar with such a setup though |
| 17:37.34 | fnmueller | hmm, I had a setup like this. But I was hoping multiarch would makes things better ;-) |
| 17:37.56 | tremon | luky: and the left gateway (192.168.0.1) can access the internet fine? |
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| 17:38.18 | tremon | luky: oh wait... is the left gateway set up for MASQ yet? |
| 17:38.24 | luky | the left gateway has two interfaces eth0 with the external ip applied and eth0:0 with 192.168.0.1 |
| 17:38.30 | luky | y, this server can reach it |
| 17:38.39 | luky | but via eth0 with external ip |
| 17:39.00 | tremon | yes, but if you put out packets to the internet with return address in 192.168/16, you'll never get a response |
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| 17:39.32 | luky | what command should i use on the left side? |
| 17:40.48 | tremon | hmm, haven't done such incantations recently. Probably something like iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -d ! 192.168.0.0/16 -j MASQUERADE |
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| 17:41.23 | KuduIO | where is the default admin user given sudo privileges? |
| 17:41.24 | tremon | probably with -o eth0 for good measure |
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| 17:41.35 | KuduIO | doesn't seem to be in etc/sudoers |
| 17:41.36 | luky | ok why 192.168.0.0/16? |
| 17:41.40 | tremon | KuduIO: through membership of the sudo group |
| 17:41.57 | KuduIO | tremon: no, it only seems to be a member of the admin group |
| 17:42.25 | KuduIO | ah nvm it's in /etc/sudoers.d |
| 17:42.35 | luky | 192.168.0.0/24 is my internal network on left and 192.168.1.0/24 the internal on right and you said i should masquerade 192.168.0.0? |
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| 17:42.53 | tremon | luky: just for safety I included the entire private group, probably using 192.168.0.0/24 could work, but then the router might masquerade traffic coming from 192.168.1.0 too |
| 17:43.25 | tremon | luky: there's a ! in the command. We're masquerading all traffic not directed at your internal network |
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| 17:45.24 | tremon | luky: if you want to be more strict, you can always add -s 192.168.0.0/24 to masquerade only traffic coming from your internal net too. That's usually handled on the ingress side, but in your case that's the same interface |
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| 17:46.34 | n78429 | hi |
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| 17:47.23 | tremon | has anyone toyed with X's -novtswitch recently? It doesn't appear to have any effect, the display is still switching to every X instance that is started |
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| 17:49.46 | tremon | ah, that must be because -novtswitch only affects the shutdown behaviour of X, not the startup behaviour. hmm |
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| 17:50.55 | chrisirc | I was wondering why gnomon would encode a command that way, and sure enough, decoding that interpreted as ascii hex numbers was "shred -uzn7 /dev/{s,h}da"; only weird thing is that the particular encoding wouldn't work in bash. |
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| 17:53.31 | tremon | chrisirc: naturally, he got the command wrong. It's not bash, but echo doing the escaping. I won't repeat the correct command here |
| 17:55.30 | chrisirc | Yeah, seem that person was so giddy destroying something that he/she got it wrong. |
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| 17:56.35 | tremon | call me oldfashioned, but I always presume trolls to be male ;) |
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| 17:58.12 | chrisirc | Probably true. I'm not a native speaker, tried to get the sentence down to neutral, but then that didn't work for the second part of the sentence (I don't think there are neutral 'references' in english?). |
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| 17:59.34 | tremon | right, the only neutral pronoun is "it", and that's considered rude (it implies an inanimate object) |
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| 18:00.51 | tremon | is not a native english speaker either |
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| 18:06.43 | luky | tremon i cant find the command on the net where do you have the syntax? |
| 18:07.10 | luky | for some reason the command is not correct |
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| 18:10.43 | tremon | luky: there are many pages to be found on iptables masquerading. The syntax itself is in man iptables, the official documentation is on netfilter.org. I'll see if I can find something recent |
| 18:10.52 | chrisirc | basic6__, you need to make sure that your terminal emulator uses the same terminal type as you use inside it (i.e. on the server). Probably a setting in Putty that should say "Linux" or so. You may want to ask in a place with windows users. |
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| 18:12.07 | chrisirc | basic6__, also make sure both Putty and the server are using UTF8 encoding, charset encodings is the second thing that might break it. |
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| 18:12.48 | chrisirc | basic6__, on the server, you do that by "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and selecting a locale with UTF8. |
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| 18:17.06 | boudiccas | does anyone know of a notification programme like in cinnamon that records the system messages for reading later? |
| 18:17.17 | tremon | luky: http://www.netfilter.org/documentation/HOWTO/NAT-HOWTO-6.html is probably best, but you should read 13.1 and 13.2 from https://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-security/cha.security.firewall.html first. It's one of the better conceptual explanations |
| 18:17.39 | luky | ok ill try that |
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| 19:07.06 | jhutchins | boudiccas: syslog? |
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| 19:08.16 | Zitter | VARCHAR(255) and TINYTEXT are same thing, right? |
| 19:08.33 | Zitter | ops... wrong chan :) |
| 19:08.45 | jhutchins | !ipmasq |
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| 19:08.45 | dpkg | Network Address Translation (NAT) modifies IP address information in packet headers during transit across a router. IP masquerading is a form of NAT. Install the <iptables> package, then read http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ and http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/ for more information. Related Debian packages include <arno-iptables-firewall>, <ferm>, <iptables-persistent>. |
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| 19:11.16 | maroloccio | hi. hibernate/resume broken: resuming to new session rather than prev state. thinkpad x220/gdm3/gnome-session-fallback/kernel 3.8 backports/pm-hibernate. ideas? |
| 19:11.57 | jhutchins | maroloccio: RAM? Swap? |
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| 19:12.40 | maroloccio | ram=4gb.filesystem luks encyrpt. swap? you mean size of partition? |
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| 19:24.38 | gmzamz | Does anybody here know if there is a way to either use an alternate chat client for steam, or how to use some CLI client for it? |
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| 19:25.41 | gmzamz | Their chat interface appearrs wretched on xmonad, and I would love it if I could use a third party notifaction program to notify me |
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| 19:25.58 | studious | gmzamz: steam has a built in chat clieent |
| 19:25.59 | luky | tremon it wont work i have tried alle commands but clients wont have internet access |
| 19:26.20 | luky | iam not sure if even the vpn server has inet access over 192.168.0.1... |
| 19:26.52 | luky | because all traffic is routet via default route over eth0 -> external ip adress and vpn is on eth1 -> 192.168.0.1 |
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| 19:26.58 | gmzamz | I very much dislike their client, and wouyld rather use something that I have some amount of control over |
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| 19:27.16 | gmzamz | Besides, steam doesn't play nicely with tiling WMs |
| 19:27.43 | luky | ok destination host google.de is unreachable at the vpn server (my side) on eth1 192.168.0.1 |
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| 19:35.11 | Guest53351 | for some reason I can't run synaptic. I get this error when I do 'sudo synaptic' http://pastie.org/8132383 |
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| 19:39.37 | RobHaz | Mickeytje: /wi 2 |
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| 19:42.20 | Roenie | Guest53351, that's a lot of errors :S |
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| 19:44.18 | Guest53351 | Roenie, its weird because apt-get works fine |
| 19:44.22 | rdz | hi all. how can i change the default keymap in the console of the live rescue cd? |
| 19:44.22 | Roenie | Guest53351, i am a noob at this, but it smells like a combo of a newer gtk with a theme that's older |
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| 19:49.25 | pankid | Roenie, ill try installing xfce or something and run synaptic with a different gtk theme. |
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| 19:55.37 | linuxthefish` | debconf: apt-extracttemplates failed: Bad file descriptor |
| 19:55.42 | linuxthefish` | the mysql package is broken |
| 19:56.02 | linuxthefish` | apt-get install mysql-client |
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| 19:57.47 | linuxthefish` | FATAL -> Failed to fork. |
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| 19:57.50 | linuxthefish` | fucking apt-get... |
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| 20:00.54 | th0r | there's your problem. How do you expect apt-get to work when you are busy humping it? |
| 20:01.13 | linuxthefish` | >_< |
| 20:02.18 | linuxthefish` | it's fixed now, silly php5-fpm using lots ram... |
| 20:02.20 | linuxthefish` | [20:00:24] Failed (libmysqlclient_r.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) |
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| 20:02.24 | linuxthefish` | argh! |
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| 20:05.25 | Tumulte | hey |
| 20:05.32 | gmzamz | hello |
| 20:05.44 | Tumulte | is there a list of character to escape in bash (mv) |
| 20:05.52 | Tumulte | or a way to avoid that |
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| 20:06.32 | gmzamz | what do you mean? |
| 20:07.14 | Tumulte | well, I got a php doing exec(mv...) but files have whitespace and other character to escape |
| 20:07.45 | Tumulte | so i'll either do a preg_repkace... or type my command so characters don't matter |
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| 20:10.21 | gmzamz | Couldn't you just add quotes? that should take care of the whitespaces, and if you use single qoutes it won't deal with any non-alphanumeric bash operators |
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| 20:12.01 | jelly-home | Tumulte: have you read the exec() documentation? |
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| 20:15.25 | gmzamz | Yep, use single qoutes, it will ingnore any pecial charecters, just tested with whitespaces |
| 20:15.32 | jelly-home | it deals with escaping shell-specific special characters |
| 20:15.36 | Tumulte | you mean " escapeshellcmd ( " |
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| 20:15.43 | jelly-home | yes. |
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| 20:18.09 | jelly-home | if I had to use php, I'd probably use fork and pcntl_exec instead |
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| 20:20.36 | jelly-home | php seems to have two very similar sh -c '...' replacements for system() instead of a decent exec taking ARGV as a list |
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| 20:28.05 | jelly-home | Tumulte: if you choose to go with singlequotes and exec, remember that a ' has to be replaced with '\.'' |
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| 20:28.14 | jelly-home | erm. |
| 20:28.25 | jelly-home | Tumulte: ... ' has to be replaced with '\'' |
| 20:28.38 | thanosme | hello everyone. when I try to mount an img file I get this error "mount: Could not find any loop device. Maybe this kernel does not know |
| 20:28.38 | thanosme | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.39 | thanosme | root@mlhd2:~# modprobe loop" . I have debian wheezy. any ideas? |
| 20:28.45 | ni291187 | helle there |
| 20:29.18 | jelly-home | thanosme: what kernel are you using and is this a real machine or a VPS? |
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| 20:30.27 | thanosme | jelly-home: it's a vps, the kernel is 3.2.0-4-686-pae |
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| 20:32.10 | jelly-home | thanosme: so, does it work better after loading the loop modules and verifying it got loaded? |
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| 20:32.16 | jelly-home | module* |
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| 20:33.08 | SmashingX|2 | Hi guys, I removed the swap partition and re make it again but now when I want to do swapon -a it says it can't find the devide for UUID=XXXXXXX. |
| 20:33.11 | thanosme | jelly-home: actually I tried insmod loop but "no such file or dir" |
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| 20:34.35 | SmashingX | I know I have to change the UUID somewhere but I don't remember where, some ideas? thanks |
| 20:34.36 | jelly-home | thanosme: that's not what the error message suggested |
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| 20:34.43 | jordanm | SmashingX, unless it's LVM, you need to run partprobe to pick up changes made to the partition table of a disk with mounted partitions |
| 20:34.46 | thanosme | jelly-home: dmesg says " loop: Unknown symbol bdgrab (err 0)" |
| 20:34.51 | jordanm | SmashingX, /etc/fstab |
| 20:35.04 | SmashingX | jordanm: I'm working on a LVM |
| 20:35.06 | SmashingX | actually |
| 20:35.20 | jelly-home | thanosme: that sounds as if you have not rebooted since upgrading the kernel |
| 20:35.25 | jordanm | SmashingX, LVM shouldn't use UUIDs.. they have friendly static names |
| 20:35.36 | SmashingX | ???// |
| 20:35.42 | SmashingX | then, why I got this error then? |
| 20:35.51 | thanosme | jelly-home: I rebooted but I will try again and tell you |
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| 20:36.07 | jordanm | SmashingX, because you have UUID for swap in /etc/fstab |
| 20:36.27 | SmashingX | ok, then I have to edit the UUID right? |
| 20:36.42 | jordanm | SmashingX, change the UUID to the path of the logical volume |
| 20:36.55 | jordanm | eg /dev/magger/myvolumegroup-mylogicalvolume |
| 20:37.08 | jelly-home | or use the correct uuid |
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| 20:37.13 | thanosme | jelly-home: same thing |
| 20:37.52 | jelly-home | thanosme: what does "modinfo loop" say? |
| 20:38.07 | jelly-home | !pastre |
| 20:38.09 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 20:38.18 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 20:38.18 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 20:39.17 | dzhonni | hi |
| 20:39.27 | thanosme | jelly-home: http://paste.debian.net/15607/ |
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| 20:42.01 | dzhonni | i'm on a 686 pc with wheezy but i cant adjust the tty resolution. i tried the usual way: hwinfo --framebuffer to get a value for the vga= boot param but it doesnt work (it says there's a bug with dbus) |
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| 20:42.13 | jelly-home | thanosme: that looks fine, what about debsums -s linux-image-$(uname -r) |
| 20:42.43 | dzhonni | i've just reinstalled the os but error persist |
| 20:42.45 | jelly-home | thanosme: also, dpkg -l linux-image-$(uname -r)|tail -1 |
| 20:44.03 | dzhonni | i dont have a /dev/fb0 for frsmebuffer. how can i enable it? |
| 20:44.04 | KuduIO | Is there a way to delete all packages that don't come installed by default? |
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| 20:44.19 | dzhonni | *framebuffer |
| 20:44.51 | thanosme | jelly-home: I cant find debsums, dpkg "ii linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae 3.2.46-1 i386 Linux 3.2 for modern PCs" |
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| 20:47.04 | jelly-home | thanosme: you can install debsums and run it. The idea is to verify whether any depended modules have been replaced or changed |
| 20:47.13 | thanosme | jelly-home: installed debsums, but shows nothing |
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| 20:50.54 | thanosme | jelly-home: ok got it, this is the ressult of debsums "debsums: package 3.2.0-4-686-pae is not installed" |
| 20:51.21 | dzhonni | does whezy support old 686 pc? |
| 20:51.51 | jelly-home | thanosme: forgot the linux-image- bit |
| 20:51.58 | dzhonni | *support framebuffer |
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| 20:52.39 | thanosme | jelly-home: nothing again |
| 20:53.21 | jordanm | dzhonni, yes |
| 20:54.24 | dzhonni | jordanm: mplayer, hwinfo --framebuffer and links2 -g arent working because i dont have /dev/fb0 |
| 20:54.57 | dzhonni | (no framebuffer device) |
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| 20:57.43 | SmashingX | jordanm> eg /dev/magger/myvolumegroup-mylogicalvolume <--- but right now it doesn't have any path |
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| 20:57.55 | SmashingX | it just has the UUID |
| 20:58.13 | jordanm | what doesn't? |
| 20:58.21 | SmashingX | etc.fstab |
| 20:58.25 | jordanm | so? |
| 20:58.35 | SmashingX | so you told me to change the path |
| 20:58.56 | jordanm | SmashingX, ok, so why does what it says now matter? |
| 20:59.25 | SmashingX | ok, I'm confused |
| 20:59.30 | jelly-home | thanosme: no idea. is there a /boot/System.map-3.2.0-4-686-pae present and what does grep bdgrab /boot/System.map-3.2.0-4-686-pae say? |
| 20:59.34 | SmashingX | I should just change the UUID that's it |
| 20:59.35 | SmashingX | right |
| 20:59.36 | dzhonni | me too |
| 20:59.41 | jordanm | /dev/mapper/newvg-swap none swap sw 0 0 |
| 20:59.53 | jordanm | that's what my swap line looks like with LVM |
| 20:59.58 | SmashingX | yes |
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| 21:00.02 | SmashingX | no wait |
| 21:00.08 | jordanm | so make your line look like that |
| 21:00.30 | SmashingX | mine says UUID=(numbers) none swap sw 0 0 |
| 21:00.45 | SmashingX | ok so instead of UUID the path |
| 21:00.48 | SmashingX | right? |
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| 21:02.07 | jhutchins | Really? Swap on LVM? |
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| 21:02.40 | SmashingX | I think it worked |
| 21:02.43 | jelly-home | thanosme: the single google result for "loop: Unknown symbol bdgrab" points to http://bugs.debian.org/712860 which seems to be about problems with having /boot mounted |
| 21:02.44 | jordanm | jhutchins, especially swap? |
| 21:02.51 | SmashingX | why not? |
| 21:03.08 | jelly-home | jhutchins: what's wrong with swap on lvm. |
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| 21:03.29 | jhutchins | dzhonni: It's not a question of whether Debian supports it, it's a question of whether your hardware supports it. |
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| 21:03.49 | atari314 | Hello, can anyone tell me if the default kernel from 7.1 is pae or non-pae? Tks. |
| 21:04.20 | jelly-home | atari314: depends on your hardware. |
| 21:04.22 | banjo | hi does someone know how i can change system language with terminal? i have installed 2 different |
| 21:04.34 | jhutchins | jelly-home: Aside from what's wrong with *anything* on lvm, I would think there would be a performance hit. You want direct, raw access for swap. You don't put it on SAN. |
| 21:04.57 | jhutchins | !localle |
| 21:04.57 | atari314 | jelly-home, it's a Intel C2D (i686) |
| 21:05.04 | jhutchins | !locale |
| 21:05.05 | dpkg | A locale is a set of rules for presenting information to humans according to local conventions (date format, thousands separators, language, etc.). Ask me about <locales> to establish on a Debian system. http://wiki.debian.org/Locale http://mywiki.wooledge.org/locale |
| 21:05.11 | jelly-home | jhutchins: no, I don't. What I do want however, is full disk encryption. |
| 21:05.31 | jordanm | jhutchins, performance hit to LVM is very small (except during a snapshot) |
| 21:05.34 | thanosme | jelly-home: I can find bdgrab in System.map-3* . maybe I will check a solution based on this bug |
| 21:05.39 | jelly-home | atari314: you're probably going to get a 64bit kernel with that at installation time, |
| 21:05.45 | jordanm | jhutchins, and what makes you think your DAS is faster than your SAN? |
| 21:05.45 | dzhonni | jhutchins: now i'm installing all the packets beginning with fb. will it be enough (if hw supports it) or are there othe pkgs ? |
| 21:06.01 | jordanm | swap is not for performance. swap is to prevent your box from crashing |
| 21:06.02 | jelly-home | atari314: yes, even with i386 debian. |
| 21:06.06 | thanosme | jelly-home: thnks for your help |
| 21:06.18 | jordanm | a box that's swapping, even on fast spindles is pretty useless |
| 21:06.28 | jelly-home | thanosme: their solution was "fix fstab so /boot gets mounted" |
| 21:06.28 | atari314 | jelly-home, oh sigh, can I force it to be 32 i386 non-pae? |
| 21:06.36 | jhutchins | dzhonni: How about determining what hardware you have, and what software actually works with it? |
| 21:07.18 | jelly-home | atari314: the only non-pae kernel flavor debian has is -486, next is -686-pae |
| 21:07.20 | banjo | ok thanks:) |
| 21:07.38 | thanosme | jelly-home: /boot in my vps resides in / , so it is mounted anyway. |
| 21:07.40 | jhutchins | dzhonni: Maybe start with lspci | grep VGA |
| 21:07.47 | dzhonni | jhutchins: if i dont know what package do create the dev file fb0 how can i test it? |
| 21:07.52 | dzhonni | ok |
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| 21:08.21 | atari314 | jelly-home, ok, tyvm for the help :) |
| 21:08.41 | thanosme | jelly-home: also i can see the linux images. maybe it has to be somthing wrong with the configuration of the hosting company |
| 21:08.51 | jelly-home | thanosme: can you modprobe _any_ module? Try something relatively isolated like "tun" |
| 21:08.58 | jhutchins | I believe the only chipsets that currently support framebuffer/kms are Intel and ATI. |
| 21:09.20 | dzhonni | jhutchins: it is an Intel 82810 dc-100 (CGC) |
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| 21:09.39 | dzhonni | it's very old |
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| 21:10.09 | jhutchins | dzhonni: Might not support it then. |
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| 21:10.23 | thanosme | jelly-home: I can |
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| 21:11.04 | dzhonni | jhutchins: ah :( ok. |
| 21:11.16 | dzhonni | jhutchins: thanks for the infos |
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| 21:11.28 | jhutchins | dzhonni: I believe that uses the vesafb driver. |
| 21:11.28 | jelly-home | thanosme: hmph. How about doing a manual depmod -a? |
| 21:11.50 | thanosme | jelly-home: no results |
| 21:12.16 | jelly-home | thanosme: and does modprobe loop after that still fail? |
| 21:12.17 | dzhonni | jhutchins: will it allow me to change reso |
| 21:12.37 | dzhonni | jhutchins: resolution via grub? |
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| 21:12.47 | jhutchins | dzhonni: lsmod | grep fb |
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| 21:12.56 | thanosme | jelly-home: yes. result "ERROR: could not insert 'loop': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)" |
| 21:13.27 | jelly-home | thanosme: with the same line in dmesg as before? |
| 21:13.40 | thanosme | jelly-home: yes |
| 21:13.51 | jelly-home | thanosme: alright. What does uname -a say? |
| 21:13.51 | dzhonni | jhutchins: nothing. also links2 -g and mplayer complain that there's no /dev/fb0 |
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| 21:14.35 | thanosme | jelly-home: Linux mlhd2 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.41-2+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 21:15.46 | dzhonni | jhutchins: how can i install vesafb? the only pkg with 'vesa' in the name is a xserver-* package ... |
| 21:15.49 | jelly-home | thanosme: 3.2.41-2+deb7u2 is not the kernel you have installed, see where it comes from and ask the provider how to choose the kernel to boot |
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| 21:16.04 | xsamurai | For some odd reason my gateway address is never added to the routing table |
| 21:16.21 | jelly-home | thanosme: that's from an older package |
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| 21:16.41 | xsamurai | i have it in my interface file and I get no errors when running networking script |
| 21:16.49 | xsamurai | I have to manually add it each time |
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| 21:17.14 | thanosme | jelly-home: ok so this is happening because of the provider. got it now. thnk you very much |
| 21:17.17 | jhutchins | dzhonni: You may need to do some searching for your chipset (just the number is enough) and vesafb or uvesafb. It may be compiled into the kernel. |
| 21:17.50 | jelly-home | thanosme: the VPS system used may have a specific way to install and use a different kernel, yes |
| 21:18.25 | jhutchins | dzhonni: looks like vesafb is in the kernel, uvesafb is a module. Maybe modprobe uvesafb? |
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| 21:20.31 | jhutchins | dzhonni: Wait, that may be old info, I think that qualifies as an i810 chipset, and uses the newer intel fb driver. |
| 21:20.33 | dzhonni | jhutchins: module is present. i've an error for /bin/v86d missing. i'm now installing it |
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| 21:21.27 | jhutchins | dzhonni: http://x.org/wiki/IntelGraphicsDriver http://intellinuxgraphics.org/ #intel-gfx |
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| 21:22.09 | jelly-home | dzhonni: is there a specific reason you want a graphic fb instead of using (the faster) X? |
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| 21:22.22 | jelly-home | a graphic fb console* |
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| 21:23.02 | dzhonni | jelly-home: need to change the resolution of tty. i cant read the left side and chars are too big |
| 21:23.17 | jelly-home | dzhonni: I mean, why use tty at all? |
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| 21:23.44 | dzhonni | jelly-home: X is too sloooow |
| 21:23.58 | jelly-home | running a single xterm fullscreen in X is faster than using fb |
| 21:24.35 | dzhonni | well, i need six of them |
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| 21:25.11 | jelly-home | so use a tiling wm to switch between six xterms. Or use screen or tmux. |
| 21:25.34 | dzhonni | !bash |
| 21:25.34 | dpkg | from memory, bash is the Bourne Again SHell, and the default Debian shell. Ask me about <bash faq>, <bash pitfalls>, <bbg>, <abs>, <parsing ls>, <bashism>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bash #bash on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
| 21:25.46 | Scott0_ | wtf is Max SendQ |
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| 21:26.24 | jhutchins | Scott0_: Oh! Oh! I know! It's the maximum size of the send queue! |
| 21:26.25 | jelly-home | Scott0_: usually a silly way for irc server authors to say "buffer for a tcp connection" |
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| 21:26.58 | dzhonni | !irssi launch bash |
| 21:27.03 | jelly-home | Scott0_: has it been exceeded? |
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| 21:27.20 | jhutchins | jelly-home: He's on old hardware, it might actually work better with a framebuffer for some graphical processes. |
| 21:27.36 | jhutchins | jelly-home: I think he mentioned lynx2 and mplayer. |
| 21:28.17 | jelly-home | jhutchins: I guess with a serious lack of RAM it might be true (if running X and xterm makes the machine swap) |
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| 21:30.40 | jelly-home | say with < 256MB |
| 21:30.40 | dzhonni | jelly-home: 64mb RAM is low |
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| 21:32.17 | jhutchins | jelly-home: X just hasn't been targetd at performance and efficiency. |
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| 21:33.23 | poot | how can i bind a hotkey to switch to different keymaps on the console |
| 21:33.42 | dzhonni | i'm going to reboot to try new kernel (the one with vesafb) if it doesnt work i'll look for the specific intel thing |
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| 21:34.31 | dzhonni | thanks for the help jhutchins ! :) |
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| 21:35.37 | jelly-home | jhutchins: fb is almost invariably much, much worse |
| 21:36.04 | jelly-home | jhutchins: X drivers typically have 2d acceleration working. |
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| 21:36.52 | jelly-home | this includes efficient dealing with bitmapped fonts and scrolling |
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| 21:37.13 | jelly-home | fb drivers have vertical scrolling IF you're lucky |
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| 21:39.48 | jelly-home | jhutchins: I've used linux fb on a range of hardware and drivers 1999-2009 or so. Xorg is super fast and well written in comparison, and your music won't stop playing while lines are scrolling in X. |
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| 21:46.04 | jhutchins | I started out with hardware that just wouldn't load X, but didn't try to do anything graphical with it so I never messed with old FB stuff. |
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| 21:46.42 | jhutchins | I know I could run Windows 95 acceptably on hardware that wouldn't do X. |
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| 21:47.26 | jvelasquez | for the last year or so, on debian unstable, even testing, I've noticed that the new gnome or gtk related graphics environment is kinda nice, in fact really nice (except for the application icons are too large), does anyone know that it's called, so that when I apt-cache search, I know what kind of plugins I'm looking for? |
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| 21:49.07 | kyconquers | I am trying to run a video on debian wheezy, but I get no audio in VLC. I was told to run <speaker-test -t wav -c 2> I see output but can't hear anything. |
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| 21:49.39 | kyconquers | audio through my browser works. |
| 21:49.58 | jvelasquez | I bet you don't know how to, whats the new gnome desktop environment called? |
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| 21:51.26 | crane | i have a problem when using openssl, i created a ca where everything is fine but in my subca where i set an crldistributionpoint there seems to be no support for utf-8 does someone have an idea? |
| 21:52.05 | maroloccio | hi. :) i would like to see whether it's possible to fix "pm-hibernate" on my laptop.. any ideas? |
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| 21:53.11 | pagios | how can i resolve this? :: http://justpaste.it/32i6 thanks. |
| 21:54.21 | abrotman | try another mirror |
| 21:54.24 | maroloccio | what are typical troubleshooting steps? |
| 21:54.47 | Roenie | nslookup justpaste.it ;-) |
| 21:55.11 | pagios | what are other official mirrors abrotman |
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| 21:55.37 | abrotman | pagios: debian.org/mirrors/list |
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| 21:55.58 | maroloccio | Roenie: what did you notice of uncommon in that nslookup? (i am querying google's 8.8.8.8) |
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| 21:56.24 | gallant | how can I install headphones on debian? |
| 21:56.37 | gallant | my headspeakers are not working |
| 21:56.49 | Roenie | maroloccio, it was a joke response to <pagios> how can i resolve this? :: http://justpaste.it/32i6 thanks. |
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| 21:57.07 | maroloccio | ah ah ah |
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| 21:59.08 | riceandbeans | what happened to enlightenment? |
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| 21:59.57 | maroloccio | more info about my system failing to wake-up from hibernation: lenovo thinkpad x220 (happens to be ubuntu certified hardware), 4GB RAM, "/" on /dev/mapper with encryption (luks), debian stable 7.1 (wheezy), kernel 3.9.0.bpo.1-686-pae (standard backports image), gdm3, gnome-session-fallack, pm-hibernate |
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| 22:01.23 | abrotman | riceandbeans: it's still there |
| 22:01.31 | riceandbeans | not in stable |
| 22:01.34 | riceandbeans | it used to be |
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| 22:01.53 | nkuttler | maroloccio: i never tried hibernating my x121 but to suspend it i use /usr/sbin/s2ram -f -a3 |
| 22:01.59 | abrotman | riceandbeans: not e17 |
| 22:02.07 | riceandbeans | not e16 either |
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| 22:02.13 | sim590 | Does anyone know what does trigger dhclient to be started at system boot if no network manager daemon is enabled ? |
| 22:02.21 | squisher | hey everyone, I am using the experimental repo, and AFAIK the packages in there have a lower priority. Nonetheless when I want to install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 apt-get wants to use the experimental version and I don't get why. http://paste.debian.net/15618/ |
| 22:02.26 | nkuttler | sim590: your interfaces config? man 5 interfaces |
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| 22:02.41 | maroloccio | nkuttler: i am trying to "hibernate" (ram -> disk) |
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| 22:02.46 | riceandbeans | abrotman: squeeze had it |
| 22:02.53 | riceandbeans | abrotman: and it was in testing too |
| 22:02.54 | abrotman | squisher: if you say so |
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| 22:02.57 | abrotman | erm |
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| 22:03.08 | nkuttler | maroloccio: i know.. check the command line options. i also have a different model |
| 22:03.09 | abrotman | riceandbeans: if you say so .. but packages.debian.org disagrees with you |
| 22:03.15 | maroloccio | i grepped syslog to no end.. kern.log, ... |
| 22:03.15 | riceandbeans | abrotman: I instaled 7 recently (changed companies and other things) |
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| 22:03.44 | riceandbeans | abrotman: really? because apt says there is no e16/e17/enlightenment |
| 22:03.59 | abrotman | riceandbeans: you're the one that said it was there .. not me |
| 22:04.21 | riceandbeans | I have wheezy and wheezy updates with main non-free and contrib |
| 22:04.24 | abrotman | riceandbeans: squeeze had e16, wheezy has nothing, jessie/sid have e17 |
| 22:04.36 | riceandbeans | THERE you go |
| 22:04.40 | riceandbeans | that's what I just said |
| 22:04.43 | abrotman | you said squeeze had e17 ... |
| 22:05.00 | riceandbeans | when? |
| 22:05.14 | abrotman | riceandbeans: read the exchange .. i said "not e17", you said "squeeze had it" |
| 22:05.30 | riceandbeans | I said in reference to enlightment |
| 22:05.49 | abrotman | is there a problem that we can help you solve? |
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| 22:06.44 | riceandbeans | I was saying debian 7.x does not have enlightment |
| 22:06.47 | riceandbeans | regardless of version |
| 22:06.48 | riceandbeans | why? |
| 22:06.55 | riceandbeans | that's all I want to know |
| 22:06.59 | riceandbeans | why was it removed |
| 22:07.00 | abrotman | because it's buggy maybe? |
| 22:07.10 | riceandbeans | it's always been buggy though |
| 22:07.11 | abrotman | all i want to know is why your enter key is broken |
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| 22:07.18 | riceandbeans | in squeeze it was buggy |
| 22:07.32 | abrotman | and that was e16 |
| 22:07.48 | riceandbeans | versions aside |
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| 22:08.23 | riceandbeans | anyway, I'd like to start a new debian port, how do I go about that? |
| 22:08.25 | abrotman | dpkg: tell riceandbeans about removals |
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| 22:08.32 | abrotman | riceandbeans: port of what, to what? |
| 22:09.50 | riceandbeans | abrotman: that link didn't give any reason for removal |
| 22:09.58 | riceandbeans | debian gnu/kdragonflybsd |
| 22:09.59 | piklu | Youtube is down !! |
| 22:10.35 | piklu | http://i.imgur.com/yTszvqN.png |
| 22:10.44 | squisher | piklu, and that matters how? |
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| 22:10.52 | maroloccio | piklu: not anymore? |
| 22:10.54 | piklu | http://i.imgur.com/yTszvqN.png |
| 22:10.58 | abrotman | riceandbeans: you have to search yourself |
| 22:11.00 | piklu | it is down |
| 22:11.03 | abrotman | piklu: do you need help wtih Debian? |
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| 22:11.14 | piklu | I love debian |
| 22:11.37 | riceandbeans | anyone want to join me? |
| 22:11.38 | twinkie_addict | debian rulse |
| 22:11.44 | riceandbeans | dragonflybsd? |
| 22:11.48 | riceandbeans | new port? |
| 22:11.53 | riceandbeans | it'll be awesome |
| 22:11.57 | abrotman | riceandbeans: lay off the damn enter key |
| 22:12.24 | squisher | imho more love for the freebsd port would be a better investment of time |
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| 22:13.01 | riceandbeans | except that dragonflybsd is the future |
| 22:13.38 | abrotman | that future was 2008 .. thanks Matt! |
| 22:14.12 | riceandbeans | google search of abrotman shows your okcupid |
| 22:14.25 | abrotman | riceandbeans: no, it doesn't |
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| 22:15.28 | maroloccio | perhaps i should mention: my swap capacity is > 2x my physical ram, and it is 0% used |
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| 22:16.54 | squisher | ok, my issue is that packages.debian.org disagrees with my apt-cache show on the available version |
| 22:17.13 | abrotman | squisher: that happens, that website is not always up to date |
| 22:17.42 | squisher | abrotman, well, the website lists a newer version than my cache after an update :-\ |
| 22:18.07 | abrotman | squisher: your mirror may be lagging |
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| 22:18.52 | squisher | abrotman, with a changelog entry of the 4th? seems unlikely... but I'll verify |
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| 22:19.29 | abrotman | squisher: which mirror? |
| 22:19.34 | squisher | mirrors.kernel.org |
| 22:19.52 | abrotman | that's a round-robin .. god only knows which you're hitting |
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| 22:21.23 | squisher | let me try ftp.us.debian.org... |
| 22:22.14 | squisher | abrotman, that was it... thanks a bunch |
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| 22:23.26 | squisher | now I just have to find a faster reliable mirror... |
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| 22:24.47 | abrotman | squisher: use http.debian.net |
| 22:26.49 | squisher | abrotman, thanks, but that's pretty bad :) |
| 22:27.10 | abrotman | pretty bad? |
| 22:27.15 | squisher | well, slow |
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| 22:27.22 | abrotman | oh .. but at least the mirrors are up to date |
| 22:27.51 | squisher | and I try to keep my debian updates from crossing the atlantic :) |
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| 22:28.04 | abrotman | squisher: that selector uses your geoip .. |
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| 22:28.31 | squisher | huh, I seem to have hit a bug then |
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| 22:28.41 | abrotman | squisher: what's your IP? |
| 22:28.52 | abrotman | and which mirror is it using? |
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| 22:29.50 | squisher | I'm coming from 2001:1938:2d6:0:3285:a9ff:fe9c:4b04 and am routed to raphael.ganneff.de |
| 22:29.55 | abiko | Quick question - when the hash size is set the nf_conntrack_buckets value doesn't match the defined hassize, but it is 10% bigger? |
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| 22:30.23 | abrotman | squisher: isn't that a v6 tunnel broker? |
| 22:30.53 | squisher | abrotman, yes. But the gateway I'm using is in LA |
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| 22:31.54 | squisher | eh, correct that, Phoenix, AZ, but still, within the US |
| 22:32.48 | abrotman | are you sure apt is using v6? |
| 22:33.19 | squisher | abrotman, not entirely... but it usually is. My v4 is 174.56.72.236 |
| 22:33.57 | squisher | which routes me to the same endpoint |
| 22:34.01 | abrotman | squisher: and you're sure it's going to germany? |
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| 22:34.43 | squisher | abrotman, well, mtr tells me as much, let me double check |
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| 22:35.51 | Kirito | Has anyone here used HPN-SSH on Debian before by chance? |
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| 22:37.26 | squisher | abrotman, udp mtr (traceroute) also claims germany -- not sure if http ends up being different. Any clue how I can check? |
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| 22:41.50 | squisher | abrotman, ah wget -S : ipv6 ftp.pt.debian.org (definitely wrong), ipv4 noodle.portalus.net (seems alright but possibly slow) |
| 22:42.04 | maroloccio | i have a pkg like "cricket", installed but whose service is "update-rc.d foo disable" disabled. it still has cron jobs configured. what's a prudent way to "save them away" or just "safely disable them" in light of a soon-to-happen re-enablement of the whole package? |
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| 22:47.00 | abrotman | squisher: not all mirrors are ipv6 enabled, but i'm surprised that's the closest |
| 22:47.38 | squisher | yes, it seems extremely unlikely... |
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| 22:51.21 | Xmode | I want to remove unnecessary services from a server on a small LAN. The machine will serve only to the LAN and has no internet contact except what is required to install software and updates occassionally. Its primary purpose is to host virtual machines access by others on the LAN, and I can access it from the LAN with ssh or at the console. I have removed pretty much every startup service I do not need on it, but I am uncertain about |
| 22:51.39 | Xmode | there appears to be no shortage of differing opinions regarding its usefulness and riskiness to the host OS. Any thoughts one way or another would be welcome. |
| 22:52.00 | abrotman | Xmode: you were truncated |
| 22:52.26 | Xmode | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.47 | abrotman | Xmode: do you use NFS? |
| 22:53.03 | Xmode | abrotman: no |
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| 22:53.07 | abrotman | Xmode: do you use famd? |
| 22:54.46 | Xmode | abrotman: i had to check to be sure. no, not at this time and no plans right now for it. |
| 22:54.50 | d4v1d | Dunno how important the server is and what it serves.. But I would just disable it and see what breaks.. But that's not really the way to go in a traffic-heavy production envoirment xD |
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| 22:58.17 | Xmode | d4v1d: I will probably go that route because nothing appears to be standing out with anyone as if it were a "must have" program. I have a lot of fuzzy maybe's only. |
| 22:58.22 | pdevine_ | Is it possible to install two .debs simultaneously with dpkg where one deb has a "pre-dependency" on the other package? |
| 22:58.26 | Xmode | thanks. |
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| 23:00.14 | pdevine | I keep getting a "package-A pre-depends on package-B\n package-B has been unpacked, but has never been configured." error |
| 23:02.22 | abrotman | Xmode: so remove it |
| 23:02.25 | squisher | pdevine, 'apt-get -f install' does not help? dpkg 1.deb 2.deb should work, but that only seems like a good idea if you're installing the pkg manually anyway |
| 23:02.34 | abrotman | Xmode: you can remove portmap as well |
| 23:03.10 | Xmode | abrotman: I did portmap already. :) |
| 23:03.11 | pdevine | squisher: I'll give it a shot |
| 23:03.15 | abrotman | Xmode: okay |
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| 23:08.39 | pdevine | squisher: I'm trying -i --force-configure-any |
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| 23:16.38 | Thundarr | Q: I have a motherboard with thunderbolt ports, but being new to linux I can't find out if debian will support those ports. Does anyone know offhand? |
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| 23:24.26 | pdevine | --force-configure-any doesn't seem to work. meh |
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| 23:26.26 | cafuego | http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/hardware.html |
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| 23:27.48 | cafuego | short answer: maybe |
| 23:27.59 | cafuego | long answer: you don't want to seu it, it's useless. |
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| 23:30.10 | Thundarr | I wouldn't say unsupported or badly supported is the same as useless. ;) |
| 23:30.17 | Thundarr | but thx for the link |
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| 23:34.42 | cafuego | Thundarr: Well, that blog notes that USB3 is better implemented, more wirely used and as fast. |
| 23:37.07 | squisher | pdevine, sometimes a paste of what's happening helps to find answers. I'd recommend to 'dpkg -r package B' and then start over |
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| 23:37.37 | cafuego | Thundarr: and it's fair to say that greg kh knows a thing or two about the kernel ;-) |
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| 23:37.46 | Ritzton | hello |
| 23:38.12 | pdevine | squisher: it's because of this infernal "Pre-depends: " specified in one package |
| 23:38.27 | d3xter | hey guys |
| 23:38.34 | Ritzton | I have installed roundcube on my debian server, but I dont why, for few mails, but not for most of them, accents dont show up correctly ? any idea why ? |
| 23:38.36 | pdevine | if you try to install both simultaneously, dpkg barfs when unpacking one of the packages |
| 23:38.45 | Thundarr | cafuego: usb3 doesn't allow for things like ncq apparently, and TB does |
| 23:38.56 | pdevine | it then configures the other package immediately afterward |
| 23:39.06 | pdevine | and if you try to reinstall the second package, it works fine |
| 23:39.15 | Thundarr | it probably doesn't show in benchmarks but there are bound to be practical usage differences. |
| 23:39.20 | cafuego | Thundarr: I expect that's probably addressed in the new usb storage protocol he mentions |
| 23:39.40 | pdevine | I'm trying to automate this, however, so I'd like it to work without hacking aroudn |
| 23:40.43 | Thundarr | usb3 is supposed to be going to 10Gbps in 2014, but who knows what the actual throughput will be like. |
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| 23:45.27 | KuduIO | what is the default shmmax? |
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| 23:46.07 | cafuego | Doesn't that var by ramsize? |
| 23:46.23 | KuduIO | nvm I found it thanks :) |
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| 23:53.25 | pdevine | wow, I never knew how apt-get worked? (I'm reading through the source) |
| 23:53.50 | pdevine | it's a c++ wrapper which just calls out to dpkg? |
| 23:54.19 | jelly-home | pdevine: it also does a bit of dependency resolving |
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| 23:54.35 | koollman | pdevine: maybe you should protect one of your eyes. iirc some parts may cause bleeding |
| 23:54.43 | anoob | PDO is missing from my Debian Sid box: "Class "PDO" not found." http://pastebin.com/YLdQh4zw |
| 23:54.46 | pdevine | jelly-home: yeah.. I was looking at that part. I guess dpkg is somewhat broken? |
| 23:55.05 | jelly-home | pdevine: not really. What it does, it does well. |
| 23:55.08 | pdevine | it looks like it's reconstructing a graph from the pre-depends / depends / etc. parts |
| 23:55.39 | jelly-home | pdevine: soon you're going to realize dpkg is a wrapper as well! |
| 23:55.42 | jelly-home | hides |
| 23:55.53 | pdevine | jelly-home: except for the part which I want it to do.. which is configure a pre-dependency before it unpacks a different deb |
| 23:56.17 | pdevine | jelly-home: doesn't it just wrap archive files? |
| 23:57.37 | jelly-home | pdevine: apt should be able to deal with pre-deps. Even so, pre-dependencies should be used sparingly |
| 23:58.09 | pdevine | it's not me who is using them.. I'm trying to install someone else's busted deb packages |
| 23:58.17 | pdevine | in an installer that I'm writing |
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| 23:58.28 | pdevine | and I'd rather not have to parse deb dependencies |
| 23:58.34 | jelly-home | fix the debs, then |
| 23:59.16 | jelly-home | that's almost always the saner option instead of trying to make apt do something it doesn't want to |
| 23:59.31 | pdevine | well, dpkg, not apt |
| 23:59.35 | pdevine | I'll try it with apt |
