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| 00:15.35 | Moonlightning | Hmm. Following the guide, I ran `sudo aptitude` and got some packages to be removed (due to lack of requirements) and exactly 22 packages to be installed, with no explanation. |
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| 00:16.15 | Moonlightning | They're all in a section titled 'Packages to be installed', and none of them bear any explanation as to why: only "$package will be installed." |
| 00:16.42 | Moonlightning | I didn't request this; what might've happened? |
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| 00:18.01 | abrotman | 7.0.1 |
| 00:18.52 | Moonlightning | abrotman: ? |
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| 00:20.46 | FaTony | Do programs usually store their settings in files inside home directory? |
| 00:21.39 | th0r | Fatony: yes, usually hidden dot files |
| 00:21.53 | FaTony | awesome, thanks |
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| 00:25.01 | abrotman | Moonlightning: 7.0.1 was released |
| 00:25.46 | Moonlightning | abrotman: Okay? I'm still on 6.* though. |
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| 00:26.35 | abrotman | Moonlightning: do you have the list of packages? |
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| 00:26.55 | Moonlightning | The list of packages to be installed? Yeah, it's right in front of me, in aptitude. |
| 00:26.59 | Moonlightning | Should I post it? |
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| 00:28.53 | Moonlightning | aspell aspell-en dictionaries-common ed guile-1.8-libs libaspell15 libgsf-1-common libice-dev libpthread-stubs0 libpthread-stubs0-dev libruby1.9.1 libsm-dev libyaml-0-2 ttf-liberation weechat weechat-core weechat-curses weechat-plugins x11proto-core-dev x11proto-input-dev x11proto-kb-dev xtrans-dev |
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| 00:33.24 | krzee | could someone point me to good reading material on using multiple routing tables in linux? i have done it plenty in freebsd, where i simply add routes to a second routing table and then either mark packets in the firewall to use second routing table or start apps with setfib <table number> appname to use the other table. im looking for the linux way now |
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| 00:34.31 | krzee | my use case: the source address will be random internet address, but it'll come from 1 of 2 gateways. i want to respond through whichever gateway the traffic came from |
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| 00:34.50 | th0r | krzee: you might find something on the linux documentation project (tldp.org) |
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| 00:36.01 | krzee | thanks ill add that to my googles |
| 00:36.09 | krzee | oops my thanks are late! |
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| 00:37.52 | abrotman | Moonlightning: and you're sure there wasn't a point relelase? |
| 00:38.28 | Moonlightning | I'm not sure of anything. |
| 00:38.51 | Moonlightning | I just want to know why these packages are suddenly marked for installation, and if I can|should remove them, because I don't want them for myself. |
| 00:39.02 | abrotman | so don't install them? |
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| 00:39.16 | abrotman | are you using squeeze-backports? |
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| 00:42.02 | Moonlightning | Umm, I think so? |
| 00:42.47 | Moonlightning | …oh. No. I don't think so. |
| 00:43.01 | Moonlightning | There's no mention of it in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 00:58.01 | ChibaPet | I'm curious about a warning message I get on a test box while trying to install MediaWiki on Wheezy. It says, "Warning: Your default directory for uploads /usr/share/mediawiki/images/ is vulnerable to arbitrary scripts execution." I'm following the link which notes some Apache config for addressing this, but I'm not seemingly adding the restrictions in the right place. Anyone familiar with this? |
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| 00:59.48 | ChibaPet | The mediawiki.conf file that's installed by the package has some language for /var/lib/mediawiki/upload, but the live config isn't talking about that directory. Exploring... Ideas welcome. |
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| 01:13.37 | ChibaPet | Going to try something based on the Debian wiki instructions for Sid, despite the relative antiquity of the page. |
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| 01:18.36 | endeav0r | i have debian6 and i'm looking for gtk3 development headers/libraries, but can't seem to find them |
| 01:19.17 | Moonlightning | Why does section 4.3 of the release notes only mention adding one line to sources.list (and removing all others), and why does it have contrib in it? I currently have three (a deb...squeeze/updates one, and a deb-src one in addition to one similar to the one in the release notes), and the latter doesn't have contrib |
| 01:19.52 | abrotman | endeav0r: because there was no gtk3 in squeeze |
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| 01:20.38 | ChibaPet | Squeeze, hasn't noticed that. endeav0r: if you have a Wheezy box available, it's libgtk-3-dev |
| 01:20.55 | endeav0r | ok thanks abrotman |
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| 01:51.18 | FaTony | Does debian include non-free packages by default? |
| 01:51.27 | jiohdi | no |
| 01:51.36 | FaTony | thanks |
| 01:51.45 | jiohdi | easy to get though |
| 01:52.05 | FaTony | I'm actually against them |
| 01:52.07 | abrotman | well, depends |
| 01:52.07 | ChibaPet | Hm, bug in the Debian mediawiki package. Whee. Not what I freaking wanted. |
| 01:52.28 | abrotman | if the installer detects you need firmware, it may enable them .. you can disable it yourself easily if it does that |
| 01:52.47 | jiohdi | debian is about free and stable |
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| 01:55.10 | FaTony | I see |
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| 01:57.40 | new2debian | Hello. I just installed debian but cannot open anything that is on a cd / dvd. How can I fix this? I looked up mounting / unmounting, but I'm not sure if I'm supposed to do that or if it is automatic. I can eject the cd / dvd with eject in terminal |
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| 01:57.46 | new2debian | What should I do? |
| 01:58.03 | cast | should be automatic |
| 01:58.20 | cast | dd the iso to a usb drive and install off usb would my first avenue |
| 01:58.21 | new2debian | How do I see the contects of the cd? |
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| 01:58.31 | newguyirc | sup |
| 01:58.44 | new2debian | Oh, I mean that debian is installed but I can't see what is on other cd's / dvd's |
| 01:58.46 | jiohdi | new2debian: are you running debian installed or live? |
| 01:58.53 | new2debian | jiohdi: Installed. |
| 01:58.55 | bfortified | can you open a file browser and navigate to it? |
| 01:59.11 | new2debian | I can open the file browser but I don't see a cd / dvd. I can go to /media/ |
| 01:59.15 | cast | oh, sorry, my mistake...misread installed to be installing... |
| 01:59.22 | new2debian | I see two directories inside but don't see any contents |
| 01:59.29 | new2debian | They appear empty |
| 01:59.40 | jiohdi | new2debian: debian, by default, does not automount anything, you have to set things up at first |
| 01:59.57 | new2debian | How can I go about doing this as painlessly as possible? |
| 02:00.01 | bfortified | in the left pane can you see a device that isn't mounted? |
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| 02:00.17 | new2debian | bfortified: no, I do not |
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| 02:01.40 | jiohdi | new2debian: first you create a directory to mount... |
| 02:01.57 | jiohdi | #mkdir /newdisk |
| 02:02.18 | new2debian | I see this: http://linuxfocus.berlios.de/English/September1999/article106.html |
| 02:02.23 | jiohdi | #mount -t /dev/cd-rom/newdisk |
| 02:02.24 | new2debian | Should I be doing that every time I want to use a cd? |
| 02:02.33 | abrotman | jiohdi: that's wrong, seriously |
| 02:02.42 | abrotman | in multiple ways |
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| 02:02.57 | abrotman | new2debian: You don't have Xorg installed? |
| 02:03.10 | bfortified | should have a /media/cdrom directory already |
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| 02:03.52 | new2debian | yes to both abrotman and bfortified |
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| 02:04.02 | abrotman | new2debian: which WM are you using? |
| 02:04.09 | new2debian | And yes, I do have it installed I mean. |
| 02:04.12 | new2debian | How do I tell, abrotman? |
| 02:04.24 | new2debian | Oh, you mean windows manager |
| 02:04.35 | bfortified | yea |
| 02:04.35 | new2debian | XFCE |
| 02:04.54 | abrotman | thunar should do this for you when you put a CD in, I would think |
| 02:05.01 | bfortified | yea me too |
| 02:05.19 | new2debian | It did not. |
| 02:05.29 | bfortified | new2debian, you sure its not in the left pane of thunar? |
| 02:06.12 | bfortified | are you sure there is data on the disk can you try a diff disk? |
| 02:06.33 | new2debian | bfortified, I looked at everything on my file explorer and nothing suggests that there is a cd in the drive. |
| 02:06.43 | new2debian | I am sure there is data on it. |
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| 02:06.56 | new2debian | I've tried 2 disks now. |
| 02:07.08 | ChibaPet | new2debian: Are you in the cdrom group, in /etc/groups? |
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| 02:07.45 | new2debian | There is no /etc/groups |
| 02:07.52 | ChibaPet | Sorry, /etc/group |
| 02:08.21 | abrotman | probably easier just to type 'groups' |
| 02:08.29 | new2debian | There are a lot of lines in that file. Mind sharing which one is pertinent? |
| 02:08.42 | ChibaPet | Type 'groups' and see if 'cdrom' is in there. |
| 02:09.30 | new2debian | cdrom is there. |
| 02:09.49 | newguyirc | anone ned help? |
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| 02:09.55 | ChibaPet | Alright, I was hoping for an easy win, but your issue isn't what I thought. |
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| 02:10.10 | newguyirc | what u need help wit/ |
| 02:10.12 | newguyirc | th? |
| 02:11.12 | new2debian | I'm trying to access the contents of my cd's and dvd's |
| 02:11.14 | bfortified | new2debian, eject and insert the cd |
| 02:11.24 | new2debian | bfortified: I've already done that. |
| 02:11.26 | bfortified | type dmesg |
| 02:12.00 | bfortified | the last couple lines should be somthing like "UDF-fs: Partition marked readonly; forcing readonly mount" |
| 02:12.16 | bfortified | do you see anything like that |
| 02:12.25 | new2debian | Okay. |
| 02:12.45 | new2debian | No, I do not. |
| 02:12.57 | bfortified | so its def not mounting for some reasson |
| 02:13.03 | new2debian | Want me to pastebin it? |
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| 02:13.43 | bfortified | mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom |
| 02:13.50 | new2debian | I don't understand why my relatively clean install wouldn't behave in a normal manner. :P |
| 02:13.50 | bfortified | try that |
| 02:15.01 | new2debian | mount: special device /dev/cdrom does not exist |
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| 02:15.19 | newguyirc | are u logged in as admin |
| 02:15.24 | newguyirc | root |
| 02:15.41 | new2debian | No, but I used sudo with it |
| 02:15.50 | newguyirc | try admin |
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| 02:15.53 | newguyirc | or root |
| 02:16.02 | newguyirc | root |
| 02:16.03 | newguyirc | try that |
| 02:16.13 | new2debian | I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 02:16.15 | bfortified | try su mount /dev/cdrom <tab> /media/cdrom |
| 02:16.19 | newguyirc | login as rot |
| 02:16.21 | newguyirc | then try the command |
| 02:16.24 | newguyirc | rot == root |
| 02:16.42 | bfortified | the /dev/cdrom may be /dev/cdrom1 or something |
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| 02:16.57 | bfortified | do you know about tab auto-completion in bash? |
| 02:17.02 | new2debian | How would that change the situation? I'm a bit reluctant to close out of what I'm doing outside of just the cdrom issue. |
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| 02:17.18 | new2debian | Vaguely |
| 02:17.25 | new2debian | I think I used it in the past |
| 02:17.44 | bfortified | ok press tab when you get /dev/cdrom to get it to list the names of devices that begin with cdrom |
| 02:18.01 | bfortified | you may have to push it twice to get it to list all of them |
| 02:18.05 | new2debian | Yeah, it did /cdrom1 |
| 02:18.28 | bfortified | ok su mount /dev/cdrom1 /media/cdrom |
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| 02:18.54 | bfortified | should give you "mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-onl" |
| 02:19.05 | new2debian | Yep. |
| 02:19.08 | bfortified | ok |
| 02:19.17 | new2debian | Should I do that everytime I want to use a cd or dvd? |
| 02:19.29 | bfortified | so the device is now mounted and you should be able to browse to it in thunar |
| 02:19.45 | bfortified | well yes although you shouldn't have to |
| 02:19.47 | new2debian | Great, thanks. |
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| 02:20.12 | bfortified | i can't tell you how to fix it but that will get you by untill you can |
| 02:20.20 | new2debian | Yeah, thanks a lot. |
| 02:20.56 | new2debian | Now, for Deus Ex. XD |
| 02:21.09 | new2debian | I think I can do the rest. |
| 02:21.32 | bfortified | good cause I have no idea what your talking about |
| 02:22.09 | new2debian | Deus Ex was a classic first person shooter |
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| 03:01.33 | rtronk4 | how do i fix |
| 03:01.34 | rtronk4 | [Sun Jul 14 10:37:25 2013] [error] [client 50.154.67.166] ALLOWED_HOSTS = [rdstudios.co] |
| 03:01.34 | rtronk4 | [Sun Jul 14 10:37:25 2013] [error] [client 50.154.67.166] NameError: name 'rdstudios' is not defined |
| 03:01.52 | rtronk4 | nvm |
| 03:02.35 | cast | .uk? |
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| 03:27.38 | jiohdi | after upgrade, I get W: Duplicate sources.list entry http//ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dist_wheezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) but I cannot find any dups |
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| 03:28.32 | abrotman | pastebin your sources.list |
| 03:31.17 | jiohdi | pastebin.com/2tdxdGQC |
| 03:31.43 | abrotman | you're joking right ? |
| 03:32.20 | abrotman | jiohdi: also, you're in the wrong channel |
| 03:32.41 | jiohdi | this is debian, no? |
| 03:33.03 | abrotman | jiohdi: if you can't find the duplicate, you've got bigger problems |
| 03:33.23 | jiohdi | did you see a dup in that pastebin? |
| 03:34.18 | abrotman | yes |
| 03:34.29 | jiohdi | ok, which one? |
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| 03:35.14 | abrotman | read it again |
| 03:35.29 | jiohdi | I can't see it, I have been over it multiple times |
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| 03:41.30 | jiohdi | reviewing it again... still see no duplicate entry |
| 03:41.36 | jiohdi | hint? |
| 03:42.47 | jiohdi | abrotman ?? |
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| 04:03.23 | LtL | jiohdi: lines 5-6 and 11 and 12 are basically the same, plus you've mixed ubuntu and mint repo's. good luck |
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| 04:35.40 | Myconix | does anyone know how to set up tor with midori |
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| 05:07.15 | uwjesq | Hello I am on debian 7 and every python related application does not find the modules. I think the include path is wrong or missing. Any help in checking and fixing this is greatly appreciated. |
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| 05:31.36 | qiyong | how do i test if a string is IP in shell? |
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| 05:34.33 | Myconix | which shell are you using |
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| 05:39.21 | qiyong | sh |
| 05:39.31 | qiyong | i try to use case |
| 05:39.38 | qiyong | case "$1" in |
| 05:39.46 | qiyong | [1-9]) |
| 05:39.51 | Myconix | try using ping |
| 05:40.05 | Myconix | something like |
| 05:40.11 | qiyong | :( |
| 05:40.15 | Myconix | ping -c 4 "$1" |
| 05:40.36 | Myconix | if it returns 0, its an IP |
| 05:40.46 | Myconix | just an idea |
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| 07:20.00 | dmannn | hi guys its me again :) .... is it possible to start x server after startup with a non graphical runlevel with just one program and without desktop itself ? And even better , let debian shutdown after this program is closed ? |
| 07:20.54 | dmannn | * from (not with) a non graphical runlevel |
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| 07:24.27 | Myconix | dmannn: I'm not sure how to get it to shut down when it closes, but you can add "startx" or something to make it start up on login |
| 07:25.09 | Myconix | to your .profile |
| 07:25.24 | Myconix | there's also another file somewhere in /etc that controls what programs are immediately shown when you start X11 |
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| 07:25.36 | dmannn | xinitrc ? |
| 07:25.58 | Myconix | no, xinitrc selects your WM |
| 07:26.13 | Myconix | i think its a different file |
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| 07:27.39 | Myconix | actually, it might be xinitrc |
| 07:27.40 | dmannn | the first that came in mind :) but for shutdown id propably need sudoers and eventually a script that is checking if "program" is running or not and if not closing down with the sudoers privilegs |
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| 07:28.03 | dmannn | or do you have another idea about that ? |
| 07:28.07 | Myconix | why aren't you just using a DM? |
| 07:29.34 | dmannn | i need rdesktop to connect to a MS terminal server and for that id want it to start debian connect right through with rdesktop, so that "userX" cant even realize that linux is running in background |
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| 07:31.11 | cafuego | pretty sure the bootup info will give the secret away |
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| 07:32.25 | dmannn | gonna check it out |
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| 07:36.52 | dmannn | for now i thank u very much guys |
| 07:36.54 | dmannn | :) |
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| 08:01.40 | humle | How do i disable or change the netbios name. It keeps showing up as 'humles-laptop'? |
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| 08:02.05 | cafuego | humle: 's your local hostname |
| 08:02.19 | cafuego | humle: You can override that in /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 08:03.03 | humle | caruego i did't but a Netbios name = in it but still haven't changed |
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| 08:03.14 | cafuego | Did you restart samba? |
| 08:03.23 | humle | i did a reboot |
| 08:03.33 | cafuego | Is it windows? |
| 08:03.53 | humle | Debian |
| 08:04.02 | cafuego | No rebooting then. Come on. |
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| 08:04.29 | humle | I now but it was on for 4 days :) |
| 08:04.37 | cafuego | So? |
| 08:04.44 | Questionable | Hello folks, where would I go to ask a question about iptables and routing in general? |
| 08:05.25 | clinton | "apt-get install libgcr-3-1:i386" gives the error: "Depends: libgcr-3-common:i386 but it is not installable". Is there any way to fix this without upgrading to testing? I believe this relates to bug#692743 |
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| 08:06.15 | humle | cafuego this is how i put in the bios name ';netbios name = laptop' |
| 08:06.26 | cafuego | humle: Oh I see what you did there. |
| 08:06.44 | cafuego | humle: You changed the right setting but left it commented out, so it doesn't actually do anything. |
| 08:06.57 | cafuego | humle: Anything that starts with ';' in that file is a comment. |
| 08:07.10 | humle | okay so the ; is a comment. Great :) |
| 08:07.22 | cafuego | humle: Remove the ;, restart smbd and nmbd |
| 08:07.28 | humle | i wasent sure of it |
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| 08:07.47 | humle | cafuego i'll give it a try thanks |
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| 08:10.16 | humle | cafuego how come neither smbd and nmbd is a service. Where do i restart it then? |
| 08:10.50 | cafuego | humle: Hmm, they could be there as `samba' actually |
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| 08:11.37 | humle | cafuego no samba in my services |
| 08:12.22 | humle | i get a net.samba3 as a command but no service |
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| 09:38.18 | stern | Could someone clarify my doubt ,Please! |
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| 10:00.09 | Joschii | Hosianna! |
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| 10:06.47 | HRH_H_Crab | hi, i am running testing and i am having trouble getting my ATI Radeon HD 7570 working using the 3.9 kernel. any help would be appreciated. |
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| 10:50.25 | Th0rsten | it is not really a debian question but I hope some can help me |
| 10:50.44 | Th0rsten | it installed crunchbang and I want it to load my keyboard layout before login |
| 10:50.51 | Th0rsten | or automatically at all -.- |
| 10:50.58 | abrotman | you sohuld ask #crunchbang-linux or ##linux |
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| 10:51.38 | Th0rsten | ok I'll try. thanks |
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| 12:18.59 | mege | Hello everyone. I still have a problem with GRUB and starting Debian along side with Windows 8 |
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| 12:19.38 | nakee | what's up with libpango and gnome on testing? |
| 12:19.45 | nakee | the upgrade to 3.8 seems all broken |
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| 12:20.33 | nakee | and I'm banned from debian-next |
| 12:20.56 | mege | The problem is that I can't configure the BIOS to start it. It hasn't the option to start the hard drive, but you have to specify the location of an .efi file. What can I do? |
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| 12:22.47 | Kurza | Hello, I have a fresh installation of debian squeeze. The problem is that it doesn't have any network manager (I installed it from usb, first CD disk only) and I want to install new browser and such things so I need internet connection. I tried installing it via .deb package and obviously there were dependencies, I got them on usb drive as well - no success, some of them seem broken so I gave up. Is there any way I can configure WiFi or PPPoE connection wi |
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| 12:24.04 | abrotman | nakee: #debian-next is on irc.oftc.net |
| 12:24.24 | abrotman | nakee: and it sounds like gnome in testing is in transition .. give it a day or two, try again |
| 12:24.29 | hile_ | Kurza: why not use ifconfig and bring the network up manually? |
| 12:25.17 | Kurza | hile_: no idea, will that work? |
| 12:26.18 | nakee | abrotman, It's been like that for a month that's why I'm asking, I think some package should be exchange with something else |
| 12:26.24 | BusMaster | after plugging in my usb disk, its /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdc2 partitions are shown 'in use' by blkid and they appear as /dev/mapper/<long string>. If I manually do mount /dev/mapper/<longstring> /mnt; it works. But thunar for example cannot mount the disks since they appear in use. Why are the disks being mounted under /dev/mapper? |
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| 12:26.46 | Kurza | hile_: oh I just found http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Using_DHCP_to_automatically_configure_the_interface |
| 12:26.58 | Kurza | hile_: I can set it up manually :D thanks alot |
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| 12:28.14 | Learningg | ~check this out_: http://internet-exploiter.blogspot.pt/ |
| 12:28.15 | apt | ACTION slams this out_: http://internet-exploiter.blogspot.pt/ into the glass nose first |
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| 12:38.44 | clinton | "apt-get install libgcr-3-1:i386" gives the error: "Depends: libgcr-3-common:i386 but it is not installable". Is there any way to fix this without upgrading to testing? I believe this relates to bug#692743 |
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| 12:39.30 | fkbm | Hello! Where can I get a list of all available keyboard layouts and their variations? |
| 12:42.52 | Mickeytje | locales? |
| 12:43.52 | Mickeytje | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:45.35 | fkbm | Nah, those show the locales but not the keyboard layouts that can go with setxkbmap :) |
| 12:46.20 | fkbm | But I've found a list 3rd page for '"list keyboard layouts" debian' in google. |
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| 12:46.35 | Mickeytje | fkbm: can you give me the url? |
| 12:46.40 | fkbm | /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst |
| 12:47.02 | fkbm | It's sad that it's on the third page... I mean I guess this should be posted somewhere. |
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| 12:47.54 | fkbm | The URL is: http://linux.error-exception.org/article/1248891/linux+keyboard+layout+problem |
| 12:48.04 | fkbm | Sorry it was second google results page. |
| 12:48.26 | fkbm | Thanks Mickeytje ! :) |
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| 13:06.24 | _martin | hi is it possible to install on this machine http://wiki.dietpc.org/index.php/DIET-PC_on_SPARC_ReadyNAS a new debian version? |
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| 13:08.19 | fkbm | Is there a more comprehensive manual to setxkbmap? |
| 13:09.33 | fkbm | Like one who shows all the options that can be passed to -option? |
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| 13:12.51 | dawmei | fkbm: IIRC there is a path in the man page, something like "/usr/share/X11/xkb" where the available rules can be found (as *.lst files). |
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| 13:13.40 | Szczepancio | how to install guest additions on linux debian without gui? |
| 13:13.51 | Szczepancio | only terminal interface (installed in virtualbox) |
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| 13:15.03 | th0r | Szczepancio, the guest additions iso should be mounted to /media/cdrom. cd to that directory, and I think there is a VBoxLinux.run or something like that...I think it will run without a windowed environment |
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| 13:15.53 | flux242 | no, it's 'sudo VBoxLinuxAddition.run' |
| 13:16.06 | th0r | I was close <smile> |
| 13:16.18 | dawmei | Szczepancio: also, you'll probably need to install the build-essential (and perhaps module-assistant?) metapackage for VBoxLinuxAdditions.run to run correctly. |
| 13:16.23 | excalibr | When building a deb, how do you exclude localization files from being packed into the deb? |
| 13:16.44 | th0r | Szczepancio, and the kernel headers if they aren't already installed. |
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| 13:17.12 | Szczepancio | i have terminal installed debian in virtualbox for learning and dev purposes |
| 13:17.13 | Szczepancio | ;d |
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| 13:17.28 | Szczepancio | but i wanna to work with copy-pase (clipboard working) |
| 13:17.34 | Szczepancio | from windows |
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| 13:20.53 | dawmei | I doubt the shared clipboard will work without X. |
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| 13:22.24 | sda3p1 | Hello. How do I stop Iceweasel from messing with my privacy by giving away my location to sites I've visited the previous day? |
| 13:22.27 | bigDoggy | My vps won't boot. I get to this point http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=df7xqe&s=5 ad it freezes. no detectable errors other than that (pre logging and can't get to dmesg). debconf-show -> http://sprunge.us/MAfM |
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| 13:22.56 | sda3p1 | I am using KDE, and when I close Iceweasel and immediately shut down my computer, Iceweasel reloads with all my tabs open on the next boot |
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| 13:23.12 | sda3p1 | I've disabled window reloading on crash from about:config |
| 13:23.52 | sda3p1 | But it keeps doing it, so I went to Spain, and it visited sites that weren't supposed to know I am in Spain |
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| 13:24.35 | ChrisH | bigDoggy: the system's name suggestr its ubuntu. Ubuntu is no supported here. |
| 13:25.20 | flux242 | sda3p1: just run, the nsa is after you |
| 13:25.26 | dawmei | sda3p1: there is no real way to prevent that other than using a proxy or tor. IP addresses can be geolocalized. |
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| 13:26.18 | sda3p1 | dawmei: Well, I was hoping to avoid that by not visiting these sites, but Iceweasel visited them anyway |
| 13:27.25 | dawmei | sda3p1: Iceweasel visited them without your interaction? restoring the last opened tabs? |
| 13:28.27 | dawmei | sda3p1: there is an option in Iceweasel, along the lines of "When Iceweasel starts": "Show my windows and tabs from last time". You can change it to Show a blank page or a homepage. |
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| 13:29.17 | sda3p1 | dawmei: Yes. And it only does it when I close Iceweasel and shut down my computer immediately or forget to close it before shutting down. It might be that KDE is the culprit. |
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| 13:30.02 | sda3p1 | damentz: I have that to blank page, I've also made it to ask me before reloading tabs on crash. I.e. if I do pkill -9 firefox, the tabs aren't reloaded |
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| 13:36.33 | dawmei | sda3p1: have you tried setting "browser.sessionstore.resume_from_crash" in about:config to false? |
| 13:37.31 | sda3p1 | dawmei: that one, no, I will try it too, thanks. Hm, coming to think of it, I will also try and play with KDE config |
| 13:37.34 | sda3p1 | thanks |
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| 13:44.53 | fkbm | dawmei: Thank you! :) Indeed there is a lst file that contained all the layouts but I didn't see the options I'll keep looking |
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| 13:46.13 | fkbm | Sorry dawmei I stand corrected. Right at the end there are the options. |
| 13:46.45 | dawmei | fkbm: you're welcome (sorry I couldn't be more precise with the location, I'm not on Debian at the moment). |
| 13:46.53 | dawmei | Glad you found it. :) |
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| 13:52.19 | DelphiWorld | hi people |
| 13:52.32 | DelphiWorld | how do i make my loopback (lo:0) as a default kernel interface? |
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| 13:54.07 | DelphiWorld | i have 172.16.25.0/24 (my lan) (2/3 is my HSRP router, 1 is virtual address of hsrp, and 4 is my debian. |
| 13:54.38 | nullPointer | Hi there |
| 13:54.40 | DelphiWorld | what i'm doing is routing the public from the server to the router using bgp |
| 13:54.52 | DelphiWorld | but the linux kernel is using the private ip |
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| 13:57.26 | fkbm | I finally managed to setxkbmap the way I want it. :D |
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| 14:00.13 | bluesky | Hello |
| 14:01.11 | bluesky | I need to download Kernel source and Header for compiling a few WiFi modules, kernel is 3.8.5, Where can I get that? |
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| 14:04.14 | th0r | bluesky, they are available from the repos. I think you will only need the headers for compiling modules. |
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| 14:04.58 | bluesky | Thanks th0r |
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| 14:07.38 | bluesky | On kernel.org page they have many bz2 and tar.gz file for all kernels, are they just headers or source? |
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| 14:12.44 | daswort | i try to install debian testing (or stable) on my netbook, which has no CD drive, but debian tries to detects the drive and fails (because there is no drive). And even when i manually load the cdrom driver it fails. That happens even with netinstall. |
| 14:12.48 | daswort | What can i do? |
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| 14:16.20 | daswort | While there is no IDE drive, there is an USB CD drive. |
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| 14:18.41 | dawmei | daswort: how are you installing Debian? |
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| 14:18.59 | dawmei | (as in: what kind of media are you using to install it) |
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| 14:19.44 | daswort | i used dd and wrote it to a USB and burned also a CD (which i used via a USB drive), but the problem is the same. |
| 14:20.19 | daswort | i tried the testing netinstall image, the stable netinstall and the testing xfce image. |
| 14:21.27 | dawmei | When the CDROM detection fails, one of the available options should be to execute a shell. |
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| 14:21.52 | dawmei | Try mounting the /dev/your-media into /cdrom and check if the problem persists. |
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| 14:23.14 | daswort | i try |
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| 14:37.36 | skyroveRR | Hey guys, I am trying to set up my cellphone as a serial device on slackware 14.0, but the phone isn't recognised as a tty device, so I am trying to use ndiswrapper and then I installed its drivers, the cell phone is a motorola W230, and I'm using an inf driver for that same cell phone, however, it isn't showing up as a tty device, when I connect the cell phone, I get a pop up asking whether I should connect |
| 14:37.38 | skyroveRR | it as a storage device or not, if I say yes, I get this in dmesg, http://paste.debian.net/16009/ and if I say no, I get this: http://paste.debian.net/16008/ any guesses? I want it to somehow show it up as ttyXXXX device through ndiswrapper so that I can communicate with it using Hayes AT commands. Suggestions welcome. |
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| 14:38.26 | Th0masR0ss | skyroveRR: this is #debian not #slackware |
| 14:39.11 | skyroveRR | Well, the problem is a common one unique to all distros, so I figured I could get some pointers in here, Th0masR0ss . |
| 14:39.12 | skyroveRR | :) |
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| 14:41.41 | Th0masR0ss | skyroveRR: try ##slackware instead. |
| 14:41.52 | skyroveRR | grr.. |
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| 14:46.39 | daswort | dawmei~ I entered the shell and tried mount → error: no such file exists, then i tried mkdir → error: file already exists. Then i tried mount again and same error again. Also ls showed that the dir is empty. I used testing netinstall |
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| 14:47.19 | daswort | weird :( |
| 14:47.28 | dawmei | daswort: what's the exact command that you entered? |
| 14:47.47 | xelan | Hey everyone. I'm using Debian Wheezy amd64 with XFCE. The default archive manager "squeeze" doesn't manage to unpack any .zip archives. It extracts some files and then just stays forever on "extracting...". Command line works fine (unzip). Can someone help me? |
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| 14:48.00 | daswort | mount /dev/sda1 /cdrom i think |
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| 14:48.36 | dawmei | daswort: have you verified that your media is indeed /dev/sda1? |
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| 14:49.45 | daswort | well there is no other sd* because the hdds are not mounted. Also the error shouldn't appear if sda1 would be wrong. dawmei |
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| 14:51.09 | dawmei | daswort: what does "blkid" return? |
| 14:51.48 | ompaul | !paste |
| 14:51.48 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 14:59.23 | roger21 | is there a doc on how to setup a basic svnserve server on debian, init script and such ? |
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| 15:01.02 | roger21 | do i really have to create and put the init scripts myself? |
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| 15:03.23 | Szczepancio | what interface is the best? |
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| 15:06.07 | ompaul | Szczepancio: we don't do polls mostly because they are impressions of what people think, there is no best but what fits your purpose |
| 15:06.41 | Szczepancio | i can install mate on linux debian? |
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| 15:06.49 | Szczepancio | what to do? i really liked the mate environment |
| 15:06.55 | ompaul | !mate |
| 15:06.55 | dpkg | The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2 to keep its development active. MATE is not supported in #debian, see <why not mate>. http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net |
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| 15:07.23 | Szczepancio | dpkg: so select the linux mint 15? |
| 15:07.24 | dpkg | Szczepancio: are you using Windows? |
| 15:07.31 | Szczepancio | yes, but with virtualbox inside |
| 15:07.41 | abrotman | Szczepancio: Mint is not supported here, ask the Mint people |
| 15:07.48 | ompaul | !mint |
| 15:07.48 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 15:08.00 | ompaul | Szczepancio: dpkg is a bot |
| 15:08.12 | Szczepancio | ahh ok |
| 15:08.21 | Szczepancio | what environment and linux is the best for development? |
| 15:08.39 | ompaul | !best |
| 15:08.39 | dpkg | Best for what? Please define what you mean by "best". Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 15:08.51 | ompaul | we don't do polls |
| 15:08.58 | Szczepancio | i wanna to don't update it every time so much.. the version of linux mint are changing so fast |
| 15:08.59 | abrotman | Szczepancio: try them all, decide for yourself |
| 15:09.12 | jiohdi_ | we sometimes do czecks |
| 15:09.14 | flux242 | men at work is the best from the list above |
| 15:09.26 | Szczepancio | linux mint update from 14 to 15 is easy? |
| 15:09.41 | ompaul | Szczepancio: you are in the wrong place |
| 15:09.53 | ompaul | Szczepancio: we only do debian |
| 15:10.01 | Szczepancio | ok |
| 15:10.06 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:11.03 | flux242 | Szczepancio: debian+mate should work though |
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| 15:11.30 | abrotman | flux242: please don't |
| 15:12.13 | flux242 | ok, debian+mate shouldn't work though |
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| 15:12.35 | abrotman | flux242: it's still not in Wheezy, still not supported here, please try not to confuse the situation |
| 15:13.08 | babilen_ | We have cinnamon in jessie though ;) |
| 15:13.18 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 15:14.31 | boudiccas | yes, i tried it last weekend, but it fell over overnight and had the tendency to lock up my machine, so i'm back on fluxbox which just works (TM) |
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| 15:24.41 | daswort | dawmei~ blkid: /dev/sda1 UUID=$UUID TYPE=ext4 and not more |
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| 15:28.15 | dawmei | That's strange. It should show something along the lines of: /dev/<device> LABEL="Debian 7..." TYPE="iso9660". |
| 15:28.36 | dawmei | That is, the installation media you are using. |
| 15:29.44 | daswort | Any idea what i could do? |
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| 15:31.19 | daswort | I tried the liveCDs a few days ago, (xfce+nonfree, lxde+nonfree and gnome) and this problem did not appear. Well a live CD is not the same but… |
| 15:32.28 | babilen | daswort: First and foremost: Don't use the testing installer (in particular at this point in the release cycle) as they are meant for testing the installer and not for installing testing. How did you write the image to the USB (exactly!) ? |
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| 15:32.59 | daswort | babilen~ dd if=* of=* && sync |
| 15:33.17 | daswort | babilen~ so i should use stable and "upgrade" to testing? |
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| 15:33.44 | babilen | daswort: That really isn't the exact command :) -- Where did you write it to? And yes, you should install stable (I'd recommend a system without the Desktop task and only "Standard") |
| 15:34.20 | RobHaz | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.28 | babilen | daswort: I'd also recommend to read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable |
| 15:34.35 | daswort | btw: was is this notebook/laptop bundle/section/thing? |
| 15:34.38 | babilen | RobHaz: NOO! Don't do it! There are so many other languages! ;) |
| 15:34.48 | abrotman | i think it's ##php these days? |
| 15:34.51 | RobHaz | babilen: Why? |
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| 15:35.00 | abrotman | RobHaz: he was joking |
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| 15:35.11 | daswort | babilen~ dd if=debian~.iso of=/dev/sdb |
| 15:35.15 | ompaul | abrotman: he's not :) |
| 15:35.19 | babilen | I was! |
| 15:35.29 | ompaul | you were not :) |
| 15:35.30 | babilen | daswort: That should be alright - Which image did you use? |
| 15:35.33 | ompaul | backs away |
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| 15:35.51 | daswort | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso |
| 15:35.52 | daswort | and |
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| 15:35.58 | daswort | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 15:36.32 | babilen | daswort: The laptop task simply installs a couple of "laptop" related things. |
| 15:36.39 | babilen | judd: depends task-laptop |
| 15:36.40 | judd | Package task-laptop in wheezy/i386 -- depends: tasksel, anacron. |
| 15:36.57 | RobHaz | Do anyone no whats wrong with: (test VARCHAR(10) NOT NULL) |
| 15:36.59 | babilen | judd: recommends task-laptop |
| 15:37.00 | judd | Package task-laptop in wheezy/i386 -- recommends: acpid, acpi, acpi-support, pcmciautils, wireless-tools, wpasupplicant, avahi-autoipd, bluetooth, powertop, pm-utils. |
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| 15:37.54 | daswort | judd~ nice, thanks |
| 15:38.09 | babilen | daswort: The first one should be fine. You are sure that you want 32bit (and not 64bit) ? Could you try to reproduce the issue with http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.1.0/ and http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/archive/7.0.0/ ? |
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| 15:38.58 | daswort | babilen~ netbook… so yes 32bit is right, sadly |
| 15:39.12 | babilen | daswort: We also simply recommend to use cp and not dd to copy the image as it is both easier to use and faster. A simple "cp debian.iso /dev/sdb ; sync" should be all you need. Not sure if you synced after your writes so make sure you do that too. |
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| 15:39.38 | babilen | daswort: That's fine - It is just that some people think that amd64 is specific to AMD and not just the 64bit variant. |
| 15:40.35 | Guessttt1 | test, ignoreme |
| 15:40.51 | daswort | i try http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.1.0/i386/iso-cd/firmware-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 15:41.24 | abrotman | Guessttt1: there are better channels to test your IRC client |
| 15:41.41 | RobHaz | HMMPF |
| 15:42.36 | Guessttt1 | I apologize. |
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| 15:44.34 | daswort | cp debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso /dev/sda ; sync |
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| 15:45.26 | daswort | What would you suggest firefox or iceweasel from experimental? |
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| 15:46.19 | babilen | daswort: Err, no ... /dev/sda is most likely your main harddrive. Please run "dmesg|tail -n23" after plugging in the stick to figure out which device node has been assigned to it. |
| 15:46.30 | dmannn | hi me again :) , i just wrote a script that is testing the existenz of a programm and if exists do nothing if dont exist shutdown -P now . So if i activate it in Terminal by typing sh script.sh it works fine but in crontab -e with * * * * * /home/me/Documents/script.sh it does not . What am i doing wrong ? |
| 15:46.54 | babilen | daswort: Firefox is not packaged from Debian and information on how to install various versions of Iceweasel can be found on http://mozilla.debian.net |
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| 15:47.25 | daswort | babilen~ no it's not. That's really annoying but it is the stick, because i leaved it plug in. |
| 15:47.40 | ChrisH | dmannn: short: different environemnt beween crontab user and yours. mostly PATH is differnt, put absolute path into any script to minize this risk |
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| 15:48.07 | babilen | daswort: Alright - Just wanted to make sure that you get the right one. |
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| 15:48.26 | dmannn | isnt /home/me/Documents/script.sh the complete path ? |
| 15:48.44 | ChrisH | dmannn: _inside_ /home/me/Documents/script.sh |
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| 15:49.50 | RobHaz | *HUBBEL* |
| 15:50.02 | babilen | RobHaz: Do you require help with anything? |
| 15:50.13 | RobHaz | babilen: Yes, mysql :P |
| 15:50.13 | daswort | babilen~ the dropdown menu could provide an entry for testing. But i guess i have to choose unstable, because they are like the same thing on different timelines, if you know what i mean. |
| 15:50.22 | RobHaz | (test VARCHAR(10) NOT NULL) I dont get the error babilen |
| 15:50.32 | babilen | RobHaz: Please take it to ##mysql then and try to remain focused in here. |
| 15:51.06 | dmannn | but that is what i am using ChrisH |
| 15:51.21 | abrotman | dmannn: can you pastebin the script? |
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| 15:52.00 | babilen | daswort: yes, unstable is what you want in there. I'd recommend the http.debian.net metamirror, but guess that cdn.d.n is fine too |
| 15:52.36 | babilen | So many different metamirrors these days :D |
| 15:52.40 | dmannn | hang on a sec abrotman |
| 15:52.44 | daswort | What's a metamirror? A collection of other mirrors? Like a metapackage? |
| 15:53.06 | abrotman | daswort: a mirror name with many actual hosts behind it |
| 15:53.47 | daswort | but all mirrors provide the same data? |
| 15:53.57 | dmannn | http://pastebin.com/BjAX2xGu |
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| 15:54.46 | abrotman | daswort: if they're up to date, yes |
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| 15:55.16 | abrotman | dmannn: what/where is shutdown.sh ? |
| 15:55.26 | abrotman | oh, i see where |
| 15:55.58 | abrotman | dmannn: you'd have to pastebin that script too |
| 15:56.11 | dmannn | sure 1 sec |
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| 15:56.34 | ompaul | shutdown.sh ... is that a good name given that the shutdown command is shutdown |
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| 15:57.22 | daswort | huray CD detection worked. weird that tjings like that need non free Stoff :( |
| 15:57.51 | dmannn | http://pastebin.com/2ja2gj8F |
| 15:58.16 | dmannn | well its actuall name is different but not englisch so i thought id name it shutdown in this context |
| 15:58.18 | dmannn | :) |
| 16:00.04 | ChrisH | dmannn: now check where shutdown binary is, and compare with the PATH set inside cronjobs (check man cron on this) |
| 16:00.47 | ChrisH | dmannn: hint: man 5 crontab |
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| 16:01.16 | dmannnn | sorry got kicked ... have i written something ? |
| 16:01.22 | UukGoblin | hi, sorry for my ignorance, but something keeps restarting pulseaudio for me... It seems to be configured for per-user sessions but I have no clue how to kill it? |
| 16:01.29 | ChrisH | dmannn: hint: man 5 crontab |
| 16:01.30 | ChrisH | dmannn: now check where shutdown binary is, and compare with the PATH set inside cronjobs (check man cron on this) |
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| 16:02.59 | LovelyPenguin | Hello |
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| 16:05.10 | truexfan81 | hmm, upon installing the last batch of wheezy updates dpkg is giving me errors with the 486 kernel, as a workaround i'm attempting to install the 686pae kernel |
| 16:05.36 | LovelyPenguin | I'm going to set up a mail server on debian 6 with postfix, dovecot and mysql. Considering how tricky the setup is, it appears to be very easy to mess it up. Is there any safe guide online that covers the whole process? |
| 16:06.39 | truexfan81 | Failed to symbolic-link boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-486 to vmlinuz. |
| 16:06.40 | truexfan81 | dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.2.0-4-486 (--configure): |
| 16:06.40 | truexfan81 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.40 | dpkg | truexfan81: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 16:06.42 | LovelyPenguin | I have googled, and there are a lot of guides but because I'm inexperienced I don't know which one to follow. |
| 16:06.43 | boudiccas | LovelyPenguin, does it have to be on D6? that stops security updates next year. it would bebetter to use D7 |
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| 16:07.27 | LovelyPenguin | boudiccas, it can be d7 |
| 16:07.55 | boudiccas | LovelyPenguin, thatt would be better for you |
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| 16:09.35 | musca | !7.1 |
| 16:09.35 | dpkg | Debian 7.1 was released on June 15th, 2013. This point release corrects some serious bugs and copies security updates across to the main archive. Further details are at http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130615 and http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/wheezy/ChangeLog . To upgrade, ask me about <point release>. |
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| 16:13.07 | LovelyPenguin | boudiccas: Do you know any guides for D7? |
| 16:13.10 | looop | hey everyone, how long usually for a new debian, 2 years? |
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| 16:13.26 | boudiccas | LovelyPenguin, sorry, no |
| 16:14.54 | dmannnn | OK got it works fine thank u everyone |
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| 16:16.38 | abrotman | looop: 2-3 years, yes |
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| 16:18.11 | merethan | Hi all |
| 16:18.33 | basic6 | So I have this Debian system with a wrong keyboard layout. I was told here to install and run dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, which did exactly nothing. does anyone know which config file has to be edited? |
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| 16:19.37 | looop | wheezy is new, so i'll have a stable system to 2015 ? |
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| 16:19.46 | daswort | i choosed crypted lvm and nothing happens for link five minutes. last message : kernel entropy-avail: 2048 bits |
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| 16:20.17 | th0r | basic6, I do now...it was a simple search |
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| 16:21.34 | daswort | i know its hard to get entropy but 5m? and the message does not say gernerating or so... |
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| 16:22.24 | basic6 | th0r: would you please share your knowledge with me? |
| 16:22.29 | basic6 | i have obviously searched as well. unfortunately most solutions are either wrong or don't work on my debian |
| 16:22.57 | th0r | basic6, http://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard |
| 16:23.24 | basic6 | for example /etc/default/keyboard is set to the default XKBLAYOUT="us" which looks just fine so thats not it |
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| 16:24.18 | th0r | basic6, well, I think I can safely say that debian isn't just throwing a hissy fit and ignoring the configs. If 'us' isn't working, it is probably wrong |
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| 16:25.35 | basic6 | th0r: why ignoring configs? i am actively looking for the right config file to edit. and how is "us" wrong? there must be another config file for the keyboard layout |
| 16:25.42 | th0r | basic6, have you tried setting /etc/default/keyboard to european and see if it makes any differrence? |
| 16:26.28 | basic6 | no i have not. but i'd rather find the culprit than go try&error... |
| 16:26.35 | th0r | basic6, did you try the initramfs config that is in the next section of that webpage? |
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| 16:27.11 | boudiccas | basic6, should it not be 'UK'? |
| 16:27.14 | basic6 | the initramfs.conf contains keymap=n |
| 16:27.18 | basic6 | as in "no" |
| 16:27.25 | boudiccas | basic6, sorry 'US' |
| 16:28.07 | th0r | basic6, did you try the xkbdmap command at the end of that page to see if you could effect any change at all? |
| 16:28.11 | basic6 | ok chances are the keymap or keyboardlayout or kblayout or whatever the variable name is is set somewhere in /etc, so i'll try to grep |
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| 16:29.01 | th0r | I'll take that as a no |
| 16:29.08 | basic6 | th0r: yes, setxkbmap us works, but i'm looking for a solution that also works after a reboot |
| 16:29.56 | th0r | basic6, the keyboard is defined at boot in initramfs....that is the second section of that page |
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| 16:30.44 | th0r | basic6, and according to that, you need initramfs.conf to say keymap=Y |
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| 16:36.24 | basic6 | ok i have my doubts but i have set this variable to y according to that documentation page, now rebooting |
| 16:36.44 | basic6 | you'd think changing the keyboard layout should be the easiest thing in the world |
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| 16:38.03 | basic6 | maybe i've overlooked something... |
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| 16:47.00 | babilen | daswort: Any progress with the other images? |
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| 16:49.29 | babilen | basic6: I take it you've read /usr/share/doc/keyboard-configuration/README.Debian and configured console-setup too? |
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| 16:56.55 | ToApolytoXaos | people, does anyone have had any streaming speed problems with chromium? when i play music from websites like bandcamp.com et al. it plays faster than what i can listen from iceweasel. |
| 16:57.05 | Og1uv | hello people |
| 16:57.18 | Og1uv | I have a problem. I searched but can't find anything |
| 16:57.39 | Og1uv | things I write can be read, right? |
| 16:57.46 | Og1uv | anybody hear me? |
| 16:57.55 | boycottg00gle | Og1uv: just ask your question, yes |
| 16:57.56 | ToApolytoXaos | just ask Og1uv |
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| 16:58.35 | Og1uv | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.43 | Og1uv | says 500gb unallocated |
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| 17:01.29 | nathanhi | good evening.. i'm trying to build 32-bit mesa on 64-bit debian - is there a debian way to compile 32-bit applications or should i use a chroot? |
| 17:01.39 | nathanhi | *-a |
| 17:02.23 | ToApolytoXaos | http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?58485-Compile-problems-for-32bit-mesa-on-64bit-system |
| 17:02.32 | ToApolytoXaos | Google is so helpful :) |
| 17:02.53 | nathanhi | i already had that, thank you ToApolytoXaos ;) |
| 17:03.08 | ToApolytoXaos | and it's not working? |
| 17:03.36 | nathanhi | nope :/ |
| 17:03.45 | nathanhi | chroot building works fine |
| 17:04.03 | ToApolytoXaos | don't know how to help i'm afraid, sorry :( |
| 17:04.19 | nathanhi | but installing fails (it wants to install to /usr/lib, even with libdir set to /usr/lib/i386<tab>) |
| 17:04.36 | ToApolytoXaos | to install it you need to be root or use sudo |
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| 17:05.59 | babilen | dpkg: tell Og1uv about kali |
| 17:06.30 | nathanhi | let's assume that i didn't install it as root: the install directory would be wrong |
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| 17:06.47 | nathanhi | since 32-bit libraries won't be so good in /usr/lib on amd64 :D |
| 17:06.55 | babilen | no, they wouldn't |
| 17:06.58 | babilen | :) |
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| 17:19.54 | ntndd | Looking for a caldav server for my home server I found Apple's calendarserver. Now I also found this guide http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CalendarServer. But the package für wheezy is version 3.2 where as the most current release is 4.2 in the official repository. Should I install from source or still use the package? |
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| 17:21.28 | nathanhi | oh… make install returns now that /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdrm.so is in the wrong format.. |
| 17:22.10 | nathanhi | and it is indeed 64-bit instead of 32-bit.. although it has been compiled on a 32-bit system <_> |
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| 17:32.34 | roger21 | do i modify the inetd.conf file or should i only use update-inetd ? (i don't understand the whole thingy) |
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| 17:32.52 | nixbag | is installing a wheezy iso, then changing the source.list to jessie the cleanest method of using jessie right now? |
| 17:33.24 | php-noob | jelly-home: Hi |
| 17:34.01 | php-noob | jelly-home: Finally the apt-get upgrade fail again :(, no matter if i use the repos from dpkg bot |
| 17:34.14 | edju | Trying to install wheezy amd64 on a late 2008 macbook. It stalled at the "Select and Install Software" step. Tried to skip that but it won't install grub either. (not even sure I need grub with refit) Not asking for a stepxstep, but a good pointer for the simple-minded would be greatly appreciated. |
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| 17:34.39 | php-noob | jelly-home: Then, i have a concrete ask to you. How i can prevent a package from being upgraded?? |
| 17:34.58 | php-noob | jelly-home: concrete question, srry :) |
| 17:35.42 | babilen | edju: Installing from USB and stick created with unetbootin |
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| 17:36.35 | babilen | nixbag: yes, it's the recommended way (if at all) -- Also see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable |
| 17:37.05 | nixbag | babilen: thanks! |
| 17:37.26 | edju | babilen, Yes, USB and unetbootin. |
| 17:37.29 | babilen | nixbag: You might just want to install the standard task before the upgrade |
| 17:37.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell edju -about usb install |
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| 17:38.12 | babilen | edju: unetbootin is well known to break our installers and simply shouldn't be used. Please refer to the installation guide and other official documentation for help. |
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| 17:39.55 | edju | babilen, OK, no unetbootin - thanks. |
| 17:42.32 | php-noob | anyone knows how to permanently prevent a packaged from being upgraded? |
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| 17:43.09 | bfortified | put it in /etc/apt/prefrences |
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| 17:44.39 | bfortified | http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
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| 17:52.52 | boudiccas | how do i find where program 'pdftex' comes from please? |
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| 17:53.08 | babilen | php-noob: Shouldn't normally be needed, but you can put it on hold |
| 17:53.14 | babilen | dpkg: tell php-noob about hold |
| 17:53.23 | monkwitdafunk | hi users of freenode. can system profiler & benchmark tell me my ip address? |
| 17:53.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell boudiccas -about apt-file |
| 17:53.46 | bfortified | boudiccas, what do you mean "comes from"? |
| 17:53.50 | boudiccas | babilen, ah thanks |
| 17:54.05 | babilen | boudiccas: Also "dpkg -S /path/to/foo" and "dlocate -S /path/to/foo" (if already installed, latter is faster) |
| 17:54.15 | php-noob | babilen, yes, is not so much normal. But i get error on any upgrade attempt i made :( |
| 17:54.35 | babilen | php-noob: That also shouldn't be the case. We can debug it later (have to run now) |
| 17:54.53 | php-noob | babilen: the unique workaround i know now is to prevent it |
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| 17:56.32 | php-noob | babilen, that hold command maybe is my solution. Many thans! |
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| 17:58.26 | php-noob | babilen: im not with in my house now. It will be tomorrow :S. thanks again. I think hold should do the work. bb ! |
| 17:59.46 | boudiccas | babilen, i've apt-get update 3 times but apt-file is still saying that the cache is empty and i should apt-get update. how then do i use it please? |
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| 18:00.54 | krzee | is it possible to use ! logic in ip rule? i want to do: ip rule add from 192.168.0.0/24 to ! 10.0.0.0/8 table dsl |
| 18:01.16 | krzee | i have been looking through the manual and do not see how to use a logical "not" |
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| 18:03.11 | boudiccas | babilen, sorted, its 'apt-file update' and not apt-get update as i was reading it |
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| 18:21.45 | vectory | is it normal that the netinstall fails at 'Detect and mount CD-ROM'? i dont understand that step. the cd is already in and running, there is /dev/cdrom |
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| 18:22.17 | abrotman | vectory: newer hardware? |
| 18:22.26 | vectory | not really |
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| 18:24.54 | vectory | 2nd dvd drive is detected appearantly |
| 18:25.13 | epsilon | some uncommon sata/ide controller? |
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| 18:26.05 | vectory | perhaps |
| 18:26.27 | vectory | well, i bet 50% of controllers are 'uncommon' |
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| 18:32.43 | ompaul | vectory: machines can be crazy - if your machine failing to detect and mount CD-ROM I'd suggest making sure that the drive you are using is drive 0 |
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| 18:35.47 | truexfan81 | whats funny is when the netinstaller is running from the drive that it "fails to mount" |
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| 18:42.11 | antoon | Moo dear users of the world. This may be the wrong forum, and thus you're free to flame me. But I'm gonna fire away anyway. Anyone got experience with smartmontools and dell scsi raids? :( |
| 18:43.07 | babilen | antoon: On a Debian system? |
| 18:43.19 | epsilon | which raid controller? |
| 18:43.48 | babilen | antoon: What is your actual question? You might want to read http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/6983/print - but I have no idea what you need to know, so ... |
| 18:43.52 | ChrisH | antoon: not with them but a) smartmonmtools can only work if they see the disks directly b) smartmontools do not 100% detect faulty disks. |
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| 18:44.40 | antoon | Well. I'm trying to check the hdd status on this old server. Though when I run smartmontools it keeps saying "Smartctl faile to open device. Dell or Megaraid controller. Try adding -d megaraid,N" |
| 18:44.52 | antoon | Yeah, babilen. Wheezy |
| 18:45.45 | antoon | The thing is, it has two harddrives (different sizes) so I put them in different raid arrays, because I'm pretty sure one of the disks are about to kick the bucket |
| 18:45.49 | epsilon | man smartctl, read the section 'megaraid,N' |
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| 18:48.07 | antoon | Ima check it out, cheers epsilon :) |
| 18:48.13 | looop | i'm trying to know how long will i have support with wheezy |
| 18:48.37 | looop | 2015-2016 ? |
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| 18:49.24 | epsilon | usualy few years, +1 year delay of next release, +1 year until support ends |
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| 18:50.19 | looop | epsilon: I'm looking for an official date |
| 18:51.09 | boudiccas | loopyou wont get an official date as we dont know when jessie/D8 is going to be released |
| 18:51.14 | epsilon | sure, there is already official release date for next stable |
| 18:52.01 | looop | bouddi |
| 18:52.04 | epsilon | looop: if you want exact date, buy linux with commercial support like redhat |
| 18:52.11 | looop | oops sorry boudiccas |
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| 18:52.36 | looop | is it safe that i will get support with wheezy till 2015? |
| 18:52.57 | epsilon | should be |
| 18:53.09 | boudiccas | loopwe cant tell for the reason that i've already stated |
| 18:53.11 | looop | this is nice |
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| 18:53.37 | looop | I never used debian, its my first time, i'm on vbox right now |
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| 18:54.03 | looop | I like it, and the idea of having a stable system for the next 2 years is great |
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| 18:58.03 | lenswipe | hey guys |
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| 18:58.35 | aguitel | any clues why panoramio photos in google earth are blank frames ? |
| 18:58.47 | lenswipe | for some reason I am being asked to authenticate when printing to a debian print server |
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| 18:58.55 | lenswipe | can someone lend their knowedge? |
| 18:59.48 | antoon | I'm afraid it's still giving me attitude, epsilon :/ but ima try google |
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| 19:03.16 | merethan | Hey all, while upgrading from squeeze to wheezy (and so from grub legacy to 1.99) I ran into a problem: grub-setup: warn: This GPT partition label has no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible!. |
| 19:03.19 | merethan | I do understand the problem to some extend, but not completely. Why does this problem show up with 1.99 and not with grub legacy? |
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| 19:04.11 | dzhonni | hi |
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| 19:05.23 | merethan | Is this problem due to grub no longer fitting into 512 bytes? |
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| 19:07.59 | dzhonni | is there an automaitc (an apt-get feature) to do 'apt-get update &6 apt-get upgrade' every day? (the pc i'm using has no keynoard/monitor and i'd like to keep ssh access not available to root users) |
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| 19:08.39 | dzhonni | (or should i really use cron?) |
| 19:08.50 | abrotman | cron-apt or apticron |
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| 19:09.02 | th0r | dzhonni, you can disable root logon and still use su - once logged in |
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| 19:09.40 | dzhonni | abrotman: you mean i instl one of them and it's ready? |
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| 19:10.08 | abrotman | probably should read the documentation |
| 19:10.50 | dzhonni | th0r: i know but root has no password. it's only accessible via sudo, but i enled ssh access only to non suso users |
| 19:10.55 | dzhonni | *sudo |
| 19:11.23 | dzhonni | abrotman: ok, thanks |
| 19:11.34 | rhalffX | debian, linux, not loading any environment, only a webservice, would it be useful? without file structure, only in memory. |
| 19:11.55 | abrotman | rhalffX: what? |
| 19:11.59 | rhalffX | no /bin, no /etc, none of that |
| 19:12.23 | rhalffX | abrotman, just an environment you boot. |
| 19:12.36 | abrotman | !tell rhalffX about lxc |
| 19:13.41 | rhalffX | abrotman, thy bot, I mean even less than that. no lsb structure at all. |
| 19:14.09 | rhalffX | actually, I know it's possible :p |
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| 19:15.20 | rhalffX | it will only be a compiled system though, you could never create the system by using itself. |
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| 19:16.12 | rhalffX | e.g. I wanna have a node.js server, I should be able to make such a system only serving node and no filesystem layout is present. |
| 19:16.46 | rhalffX | there won't even be something to hack. |
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| 19:17.26 | rhalffX | I don't need anything within /bin nor /sbin nor /etc just serve it. |
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| 19:17.53 | rhalffX | It will be just a node. |
| 19:18.53 | abrotman | rhalffX: why are you asking us/ |
| 19:18.53 | abrotman | ? |
| 19:19.06 | abrotman | if you know it's possible, just go do it |
| 19:19.15 | rhalffX | somewhere where inittab starts, before inittab is caled. |
| 19:19.17 | rhalffX | abrotman, correct... :- |
| 19:19.19 | rhalffX | ) |
| 19:20.12 | rhalffX | abrotman, I just try to ventilate my thoughts. |
| 19:20.37 | abrotman | rhalffX: but this is related to Debian how? |
| 19:21.05 | rhalffX | abrotman, I'll build it using debian :p |
| 19:21.12 | rhalffX | mabye. |
| 19:21.30 | rhalffX | abrotman, that, and when I post it on facebook, nobody will understand. |
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| 19:23.04 | abrotman | rhalffX: go for it .. |
| 19:24.15 | rhalffX | abrotman, debian, linux getting rid of lbs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard or at least a new structure maybe. |
| 19:24.53 | rhalffX | abrotman, making it a service or something. |
| 19:25.22 | rhalffX | abrotman, those are paths, but we live in the internet era, not the filesystem era anymore. |
| 19:25.26 | abrotman | rhalffX: i have no idea why you're still telling us? |
| 19:25.34 | abrotman | just go do it |
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| 19:26.15 | rhalffX | abrotman, okey, sorry :D |
| 19:26.31 | rhalffX | abrotman, still I wanna give you a virtual medal for being on Irc for such a long time. |
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| 19:27.47 | rhalffX | abrotman, or are you just a bot that has been very sufficient from the beginning of times? |
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| 19:27.57 | abrotman | efficient? |
| 19:28.12 | rhalffX | yeah that also |
| 19:28.32 | rhalffX | abrotman, fetch bone. |
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| 19:29.33 | dzhonni | i've npticed that in a previous upgrade my kernel has changed from a 2.6..-686 to a 3.2...-686-pae. isnt pae for ram>4GB? i've only 64mb ram on this pc. could pae create problems or is it still ok? |
| 19:29.46 | abrotman | dzhonni: what's your CPU ? |
| 19:29.49 | rhalffX | sorry if I offended anyone |
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| 19:30.44 | rhalffX | dzhonni, 64mb of ram? |
| 19:30.58 | LinuxGuy2020 | Is there a way to set Gnash browser plugin to automatically play content instead of waiting for me to hit play? |
| 19:31.03 | dzhonni | abrotman: Celeron (Mendoxino), it's a ~500Mhz pc |
| 19:31.25 | abrotman | dzhonni: you could probably use the -486 kernel if you prefer, but no real problems with using the -pae |
| 19:31.39 | dzhonni | rhalffX: yes, i'm on android now, using ssh to that pc to use irssi |
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| 19:33.07 | dzhonni | thanks again |
| 19:33.40 | rhalffX | dzhonni, ok I have thrown away 265Mb memory cards and up, just because they won't fit into any motherboards anymore. |
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| 19:34.35 | Clement_ | I'm waiting for samba-ad-dc to get into experimental, anyone knows how long it will take? it has been 3-4 weeks already. http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html |
| 19:35.01 | abrotman | Clement_: the package and license have to be reviewed |
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| 19:35.33 | Clement_ | how long does it usually take? |
| 19:35.39 | dzhonni | LinuxGuy2020: i think it's something to do with the website. for example some sites show YT vodeos with autoplay, some other don't |
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| 19:36.30 | abrotman | Clement_: depends how complicated it is |
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| 19:50.43 | vectory | the mirror i chose is missing librsvg2-...deb |
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| 19:51.20 | vectory | this install just isnt possible to do quick is it |
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| 19:59.55 | abrotman | Clement_: what package are you waiting for ? |
| 20:00.07 | abrotman | Clement_: you're waiting for samba 2.4.x ? |
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| 20:00.33 | Clement_ | yes |
| 20:00.49 | abrotman | ah okay . |
| 20:01.20 | abrotman | Clement_: i know they just appointed a bunch of new FTP masters .. hopefully it will help speed things up |
| 20:01.42 | abrotman | Clement_: that said, samba4 packages are already available, not good enough ? |
| 20:01.42 | lenswipe | hey guys |
| 20:01.46 | lenswipe | can someone help me with something? |
| 20:02.03 | abrotman | lenswipe: you know how it works here |
| 20:02.13 | lenswipe | abrotman, im busy typing my question |
| 20:02.26 | lenswipe | mapping a printer using my print server's hostname causes an authentication request from my windows clients |
| 20:02.44 | lenswipe | mapping the printer with the IP (\\server\printer) does not |
| 20:02.48 | lenswipe | anyone know what's up with that? |
| 20:03.14 | mumpitze1 | your clients already know the password when the IP is used |
| 20:03.36 | Clement_ | no, samba4 is going to be removed, that is based on a very early beta version of samba 4 |
| 20:04.12 | mumpitze1 | and this printserver: is it even running debian? and what is it using: CIFS or IPP? |
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| 20:05.51 | owen1 | Trying to run firefox 22 show me: "bash: ./firefox: No such file or directory'. Here are the step I followed: wget ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/22.0/linux-x86_64/en-US/firefox-22.0.tar.bz2 && tar xjf firefox-22.0.tar.bz2 && cd firefox && ./firefox. Can someone give it a try and se |
| 20:05.52 | owen1 | e if it's just me? |
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| 20:06.00 | Clement_ | lenswipe: have you config krb5? |
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| 20:10.49 | lenswipe | Clement_, I'm not using kerberos |
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| 20:11.10 | merethan | Hey ppl, I'm totally stuck with grub. I'm moving from legacy to 1.99 (bios mode) and thus need somewhere to store core.img. Thing is, when I installed squeeze a two years back this "BIOS boot partition" wasn't a thing yet. So, I have partitioned all space on my drive and nowhere to put core.img other than a partition with a filesystem on it. But that fails too. |
| 20:11.11 | lenswipe | Clement_, It's not a domain, just a print server |
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| 20:11.45 | merethan | "grub-setup: warn: This GPT partition label has no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible!." |
| 20:12.13 | merethan | So yeah, let's try doing it on a partition then, well.. "grub-setup: error: cannot read `/boot/grub/core.img' correctly." |
| 20:12.16 | mumpitze1 | merethan: why are you using gtp? huge hdd? |
| 20:12.21 | merethan | No |
| 20:12.26 | merethan | Stupid choice back then |
| 20:12.37 | merethan | gpt was "new" |
| 20:12.41 | merethan | so it was cool |
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| 20:13.00 | carandraug | hi! I've been building a lot of stuff on my server and would like to have my computer make some noise when it's done. If I was building on my own computer, I could issue a beep after make, but since it's doing it remotely on my server I can't. Any suggestion? |
| 20:13.01 | mumpitze1 | merethan: what is the output of mount;ls -l /boot/grub/core* ? |
| 20:13.16 | merethan | it's there |
| 20:13.19 | merethan | I checked |
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| 20:13.57 | merethan | (and yeah /boot is mounted too in that case obviously) |
| 20:14.45 | mumpitze1 | you ignore my question, I ignore you. have a nice day |
| 20:15.26 | merethan | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25921 Jul 14 21:48 /boot/grub/core.img |
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| 20:16.06 | merethan | ..and I didn't ignored you, I gave an answer differently than you expected. |
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| 20:16.59 | merethan | /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext2 (rw) |
| 20:17.05 | mumpitze1 | I didn't write you ignored me, you ignored my question. |
| 20:17.38 | mumpitze1 | and don't bother anymore. |
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| 20:21.29 | angs | I will place a program as daemon through update-rc.d, but I want that program to be run when all other daemon are already run. how can I do it? |
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| 20:25.28 | ksuhku | angs, man update-rc.d |
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| 20:29.56 | epsilon | angs: take a look at files in /etc/init.d, at the top you tell when to start, what are the requirements etc |
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| 20:30.57 | angs | thank you epsilon |
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| 20:34.22 | linuxthefish | hey, can anyone tell me what is messed up about this install script? |
| 20:34.24 | linuxthefish | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rWxSPpnD84entYp-S9KBzQasds_Oxw7Vfa5wuf9UuOI/edit?pli=1 |
| 20:34.27 | linuxthefish | like using wrong sources |
| 20:34.39 | smw | Hi all, I want to make a quick and dirty deb repo with apt pinning, what is the best tool for this? |
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| 20:40.57 | epsilon | linuxthefish: mess of different versions |
| 20:41.20 | MartinCleaver | Is it fair to assume that 4.1-5 is the last Bash available for Debian Squeeze? This seems to be what I have installed (and it has a problem with rvm) |
| 20:41.42 | MartinCleaver | http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=squeeze&keywords=bash says: |
| 20:41.43 | MartinCleaver | squeeze (oldstable) (shells): The GNU Bourne Again SHell |
| 20:41.44 | MartinCleaver | 4.1-3: amd64 armel i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc |
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| 20:42.07 | Dwarf | MartinCleaver: what is the problem with RVM? |
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| 20:42.30 | linuxthefish | epsilon: like? :/ |
| 20:42.32 | MartinCleaver | https://github.com/wayneeseguin/rvm/issues/2032 |
| 20:43.17 | Dwarf | MartinCleaver: checked backports yet? |
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| 20:43.34 | MartinCleaver | yup |
| 20:43.49 | MartinCleaver | http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=squeeze-backports&keywords=bash |
| 20:44.08 | MartinCleaver | "You have searched for packages that names contain bash in suite(s) squeeze-backports, all sections, and all architectures. Sorry, your search gave no results" |
| 20:44.51 | Dwarf | Might want to consider upgrading tho |
| 20:45.33 | Dwarf | Come to the wheezy side, we have cookiesl. |
| 20:45.57 | MartinCleaver | y, I will, eventually |
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| 20:55.46 | hesco | I have a new mailman installation from a debian package. Curious to know where I might find IRC support for migrating our legacy lists to the new server. |
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| 21:04.35 | hesco | never mind, found a well populated #mailman |
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| 21:18.57 | symb0l | ??packaging |
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| 21:19.25 | symb0l | can anyone recommend the latest and most canonical packaging tutorial for creating a package for a hello world program? |
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| 21:23.36 | mcsim | hi. is it appropriate channel to ask questions about steam in debian? |
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| 21:24.31 | elouin | mcsim: just asl |
| 21:24.34 | elouin | *ask |
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| 21:26.25 | mcsim | elouin: when i installed steam and ran first time I've got error message telling that libsteam.so is not found. In console it was written: /usr/games/steam: 16: /usr/games/steam: /home/desertfox/.steam/steam.sh: not found |
| 21:26.55 | mcsim | steam version is 1.0.0.39-1 |
| 21:27.43 | elouin | mcsim: did you installed it from the repos? |
| 21:27.54 | elouin | in testing? |
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| 21:28.03 | mcsim | yes |
| 21:28.57 | mcsim | There was a bug that looks the same http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=706857 |
| 21:29.16 | mcsim | but it is claimed to be fixed in 39th version |
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| 21:30.48 | abrotman | mcsim: dpkg --print-architecture |
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| 21:32.36 | mcsim | amd64 |
| 21:33.10 | mcsim | abrotman: # dpkg --print-foreign-architectures i386 |
| 21:34.25 | abrotman | right .. and? |
| 21:35.42 | mcsim | abrotman: and what? |
| 21:36.01 | elouin | mcsim: it seems like the steam.sh is on the wrong place |
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| 21:36.36 | elouin | can you search it? |
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| 21:38.14 | mcsim | elouin: there is one /home/desertfox/.steam/package/tmp/steam.sh_ but when I try to launch it it says "Error: Couldn't find Steam install license agreement, aborting!" |
| 21:38.43 | elouin | and if you copy it to the place it also should be? |
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| 21:39.42 | elouin | in ~/.steam |
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| 21:43.05 | alumno_ | hi , what is pulseaudio and alsa ? |
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| 21:47.38 | sooley | how to open .i386 file on debian |
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| 21:48.37 | DrFoo | What's the best email solution for debian? (I know it's subjective.) |
| 21:48.49 | elouin | DrFoo: Icedove |
| 21:49.06 | DrFoo | is that thunderbird stripped of branding? |
| 21:49.14 | elouin | yes |
| 21:49.32 | DrFoo | what are you using for a server? gmail? |
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| 21:49.56 | elouin | DrFoo: Hotmail. shame on me ;_; |
| 21:50.04 | DrFoo | gmail is just as bad |
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| 21:50.49 | DrFoo | anyone run their own IMAP? |
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| 21:53.16 | mcsim | elouin: So, I found out that every file in .steam/package/tmp directory is ended with "_" I moved this directory to another place and deleted all underscores, and now I have another missing library libsteamui.so (or something like that) I advanced for sure |
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| 21:53.56 | elouin | mcsim: did you already tried to reinstall it? |
| 21:54.39 | mcsim | no, ATM seems that I lack some libraries, I just try to find out what exactly do I need to install |
| 21:55.18 | mcsim | It also says that I lack libGL.so.1 |
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| 21:56.49 | elouin | mcsim: it should work without problems like that... if you uninstall it then update and then reinstall it? the problem with libGL i had in wheezy(a half a year ago) |
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| 21:58.20 | mcsim | elouin: I uninstalled it several times already. |
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| 21:59.47 | elouin | mcsim: it seems like iam not able to help you. Sry... |
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| 22:01.22 | mcsim | elouin: I installed package libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386, and it worked, although I do not have nvidia card |
| 22:01.30 | mcsim | elouin: thanks for help |
| 22:01.31 | dzhonni | how can i allow a user to run hcidump? i added the user to bluetooth group but it doesnt work. so i added it also to group 'netdev' but it still doesnt work. any clue?< |
| 22:01.47 | elouin | mcsim: no problem! ;) |
| 22:02.44 | elouin | mcsim: you run steam on a laptop? |
| 22:02.53 | mcsim | yes |
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| 22:03.27 | elouin | mcsim: without a graphic card? |
| 22:04.01 | mcsim | elouin: with intel graphics |
| 22:04.27 | elouin | mcsim: so youll need libtxc-dxtn for some games. |
| 22:04.42 | mcsim | elouin: what's that? |
| 22:05.25 | elouin | mcsim: texture compression neede for some games Half life 2. |
| 22:06.05 | mcsim | elouin: thank you |
| 22:06.39 | elouin | mcsim: np |
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| 22:10.32 | dzhonni | is there a way to allow a normal user to use tools like tcpdump & hcidump to access network devices, via /etc/group ? 'netdev' group seems to be unuseful in this case... |
| 22:11.02 | WilliamDotSI | Debian 7.1, i get ata error - replacing the disk does not do anything, neither cable nor power, PSU is good enough |
| 22:11.05 | WilliamDotSI | started after reboot |
| 22:11.30 | WilliamDotSI | says media error, but the HDD is connected and detected by the bios fine |
| 22:12.21 | dzhonni | WilliamDotSI: what's psu? |
| 22:12.30 | WilliamDotSI | power supply |
| 22:13.16 | dzhonni | WilliamDotSI: cant you try to change the disk? |
| 22:13.25 | WilliamDotSI | already done |
| 22:13.27 | WilliamDotSI | sata cable as well |
| 22:14.25 | dzhonni | try to boot via livecd (like the installation one) and then try to see if you can mount it and access the files |
| 22:14.54 | WilliamDotSI | uh |
| 22:14.57 | WilliamDotSI | thats not my concern |
| 22:15.01 | WilliamDotSI | i use zfs, my files are safe |
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| 22:15.23 | dzhonni | are you using a custom kernel, maybe? (is it a kernel you configured and compiled or is it the standard one?) |
| 22:15.42 | dzhonni | ah |
| 22:15.56 | WilliamDotSI | standard one, zfs is module |
| 22:16.07 | WilliamDotSI | i sadly guess my controller died |
| 22:16.15 | WilliamDotSI | but only one port of it would be starnge |
| 22:16.26 | WilliamDotSI | *strange |
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| 22:16.28 | dzhonni | so what is not working? |
| 22:16.47 | WilliamDotSI | well i get ata errors, various, when a hdd is connected |
| 22:17.37 | dzhonni | and if you connect the hd to another controller you've got no errors? |
| 22:17.56 | WilliamDotSI | cant verify that, not enough ports |
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| 22:18.26 | dzhonni | do you have another pc to test if the disk gives no errors there? |
| 22:18.46 | chomwitt | in aptitude i see as suffix to some packages ':i386' . why is that since i have amd64 arch? |
| 22:19.04 | dzhonni | chomwitt: it's multiarch |
| 22:19.29 | dzhonni | chomwitt: maybe (not sure) 'cause you installed wine? |
| 22:19.35 | chomwitt | dzhonni: but can i install such a package? |
| 22:19.40 | chomwitt | dzhonni: a! yes |
| 22:19.59 | chomwitt | dzhonni: i installed wine some days ago |
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| 22:20.05 | dzhonni | !multiarch |
| 22:20.06 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
| 22:21.12 | chomwitt | dzhonni: so can i revert back with 'dpkg --remove-arch i38 6 ? |
| 22:21.46 | dzhonni | chomwitt: yes but it's not that simple |
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| 22:22.19 | chomwitt | dzhonni: i hope wine messed my system? |
| 22:22.22 | dzhonni | if i remember good you also have to purge some pkg to remove configs |
| 22:22.35 | chomwitt | ..wine didnt.. |
| 22:23.04 | dzhonni | chomwitt: there's also a pkg named 'multiarch' |
| 22:23.46 | dzhonni | what happens if you use 'apt-get remove multiarch' ? (dont comfirm) |
| 22:24.02 | dzhonni | can you see a list of :i386 files? |
| 22:24.11 | chomwitt | one moment. brb |
| 22:25.00 | dzhonni | press no after the command: DONT CONFIRM |
| 22:25.09 | dzhonni | !!! |
| 22:25.09 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 22:25.37 | chomwitt | dzhonni: i see some of them in aptitude |
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| 22:26.12 | HelenaKitty | I don't know why but I have no /dev/dsp and a program is needing this device! |
| 22:26.22 | WilliamDotSI | interesting |
| 22:26.23 | HelenaKitty | I am using alsa. |
| 22:26.28 | WilliamDotSI | now the other ports start to go crazy |
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| 22:27.15 | dzhonni | well,you can try (if you're sure you dont need to use them). btw many windows apps needs them (i think you installed wine for that,right?) |
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| 22:28.07 | chomwitt | dzhonni: but why should i want gnome-paind:i386 ? |
| 22:28.16 | chomwitt | gnome-paint:386 |
| 22:29.59 | dzhonni | WilliamDotSI: you said the bios saw the hd, but you get os errors for ata (where? syslog/dmesg?) , cant you try to use another installation (maybe a livecd) so that you can see if it's os-related problem or if it's an HW-problem? |
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| 22:30.39 | WilliamDotSI | the 2 ports that failed for now is one sata card (2 port cards) |
| 22:30.47 | WilliamDotSI | so i guess the card is simply failing |
| 22:31.16 | HelenaKitty | Whyy wont anyone anywhere help me anywhere with a sound issue that's probably very simple?! |
| 22:31.45 | dzhonni | chomwitt: maybe apt installed that after you installed wine. since you enabled i386 versions , all the new pkg you'll install will come in the two versions (it's also double space occuped) |
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| 22:32.25 | bfortified | HelenaKitty, thats not the way to get someone to help you. Maybe try a diff approach |
| 22:33.08 | dzhonni | HelenaKitty: try apt-get install alsa |
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| 22:33.19 | LinuxGuy2020 | For some reason this wheezy release seems rushed and not as solid as squeeze. I hope by 7.2 most things are worked out. Synaptic sources window is buggy and cant get updates on my desktop or laptop. |
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| 22:33.31 | HelenaKitty | dzhonni: Alsa is what I am using but programs are depending on OSS. |
| 22:36.43 | dzhonni | HelenaKitty: try aptitude search \*oss\* to see if you find it (i'm sorry but i dont know it, i've just installed wheezy on an old pc and alsa was all i needed to get sound working. can you play mp3 or avi files via vlc/mplayer ?) |
| 22:37.00 | HelenaKitty | I fixed the issue |
| 22:37.17 | dzhonni | HelenaKitty: what are you using as window manager? |
| 22:37.26 | dzhonni | how? |
| 22:38.04 | HelenaKitty | I don't use X |
| 22:38.19 | HelenaKitty | How come people assume people use a GUI on linux? |
| 22:38.21 | dzhonni | also "esd" (esound) could solve problems sometime |
| 22:38.22 | HelenaKitty | :/ |
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| 22:38.37 | dzhonni | aaaah |
| 22:38.49 | dzhonni | it works out of X, right? |
| 22:39.07 | dzhonni | so try to install 'pulseaudio' |
| 22:39.09 | HelenaKitty | dzhonni: What?! |
| 22:39.18 | HelenaKitty | Sound doesn't rely on X! |
| 22:39.48 | dzhonni | can you play sound if you are Not in X? |
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| 22:40.08 | nkuttler | dzhonni: certainly |
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| 22:40.42 | dzhonni | nkuttler: lol. i know. i was asking HelenaKitty , -_- |
| 22:41.47 | dzhonni | HelenaKitty: what do you use for X? kde? gnome? something else? |
| 22:42.03 | HelenaKitty | dzhonni: Like I said... |
| 22:42.12 | HelenaKitty | sound doesn't rely on X |
| 22:42.14 | HelenaKitty | no |
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| 22:42.18 | HelenaKitty | I don't have X |
| 22:42.38 | dzhonni | nkuttler: is it possible for a normal user to use tcpdump or hcidump to access a netw. de ice? (maybe via /etc/groups?) |
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| 22:45.20 | dzhonni | HelenaKitty: try to install oss-compat |
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| 22:46.08 | dzhonni | HelenaKitty: apt-get install oss-compat (it is Open Sound System (OSS) compatibility package) |
| 22:46.45 | Devastator | i think you missed she saying she fixed the issue |
| 22:46.59 | dzhonni | XD |
| 22:47.10 | HelenaKitty | dzhonni: It's fine I said I fixed it already! lol |
| 22:47.34 | dzhonni | how? |
| 22:47.56 | Section58 | installed ubuntu ? |
| 22:49.37 | Devastator | she would install ubuntu if she wants to break it :) |
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| 22:51.45 | dzhonni | no clue about the hcidump/tcpdump thing ? :( |
| 22:52.14 | Devastator | try to add the user to the group net I guess.. |
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| 22:54.15 | Section58 | yeah sorry, i don't make a very good troll |
| 22:56.09 | dzhonni | Devastator: there is no group 'net'. there is only 'netdev' group and it doesnt work. (i used this group 'cause man says its for netw low level access, but .. no way) |
| 22:56.43 | Devastator | tried to logout and login? |
| 22:56.51 | Devastator | or reboot, even |
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| 22:57.49 | dzhonni | it says "cant access device: permission denied" |
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| 22:58.23 | Devastator | what google says? |
| 22:58.45 | dzhonni | Devastator: i'm using android, i cess via ssh. i did logout and i saw the group was updated (i saw it via 'id') but no way.. |
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| 22:59.21 | Devastator | see if ##networking can help you |
| 22:59.31 | PRISMAdmin | Guys, do you think that the ARM version of Debian would run on the Nexus10? |
| 22:59.37 | dzhonni | it says it has nothing to do with PRISM , but i dont belive it.. |
| 22:59.56 | dzhonni | Devastator: ok |
| 22:59.59 | dzhonni | thank |
| 23:00.02 | dzhonni | s |
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| 23:00.34 | dzhonni | (lol ...) |
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| 23:06.08 | dzhonni | thinks that netdev group is only useful for NetworkManager things |
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| 23:30.31 | pha | Every time I have used debian and added an extra IP, i've just edited interfaces file and under the eth0 just added eth0:1 (with it's address/netmask/gateway) |
| 23:31.01 | pha | This one is using eth1 ... so I am using eth1:0 to add the additional IP |
| 23:31.24 | pha | I take it this is wrong, because it's giving me an error and not showing up in ifconfig |
| 23:32.38 | dzhonni | pha: uh!? not showing up in ifconfig and still works ? |
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| 23:33.22 | pha | no, wait... I just used the old way & it works... I was trying the new way of |
| 23:33.38 | dzhonni | pha: isnt that the way some routers work? for port one: eth0:0 port two: eth0:1 etcetera... |
| 23:33.42 | pha | down ip addr add blah |
| 23:34.02 | pha | but I just done the old eth1:0 and eth1:1 etc and it worked fine. |
| 23:34.51 | dzhonni | if you type 'ifconfig -a' you should see all of them (allo down, but one) |
| 23:34.54 | pha | I thought ifconfig was sort of being phased out and replaced with ip command which is why I wanted to use the newer up/down mechanism to just call the IPs when needed. |
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| 23:35.04 | dzhonni | *all down |
| 23:35.15 | krushik | what was the error you got and the full command that you tried? |
| 23:35.16 | pha | yeah, they are all there now... that I have just used the old way of adding them |
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| 23:36.04 | dzhonni | damn! so i could have some hidden iface and not knowing it 'cause i still use ifconfig? |
| 23:36.19 | dzhonni | let me see.. brb |
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| 23:38.01 | dzhonni | pha: how can i get the full if list via ip? i tried ip -d but nothing... |
| 23:38.08 | krushik | ip a |
| 23:38.27 | krushik | and ip l l |
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| 23:40.16 | pha | one second, i'm just double checking. |
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| 23:43.55 | pha | ok, that's just strange. |
| 23:44.02 | pha | once they had binded that way, it seems they work the other way. |
| 23:44.04 | dzhonni | ok. i've got ony 1 interface, fiuu :) |
| 23:44.14 | pha | I was using the same notepad I had pasted it to, so hadn't changed anything... |
| 23:44.18 | pha | but yeah, works perfectly now. |
| 23:44.25 | pha | glad you learned something too dzhonni lol |
| 23:45.05 | dzhonni | but does that mean that ifconfig will be soon removed? |
| 23:45.24 | pha | one day I guess |
| 23:45.37 | dzhonni | too bad |
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| 23:45.51 | pha | I mean look at mysql being deprecated in php 5.5 |
| 23:46.18 | pha | a lot of old school things are slowly phasing out. |
| 23:46.19 | moof2 | well mysql is just a module to php |
| 23:46.26 | pha | last days of ipv4 |
| 23:46.33 | pha | ohh how the world changes |
| 23:46.41 | pha | yeah course |
| 23:46.47 | pha | and it's just a simple change to imysql |
| 23:46.49 | pha | but still |
| 23:47.07 | moof2 | you might want to start getting used to postgres :) |
| 23:47.07 | pha | well, mysqli* |
| 23:47.09 | dzhonni | ipv4 will last |
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| 23:47.30 | pha | heh, someone said that to me yesterday funnily enough |
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| 23:48.13 | pha | it can't dzhonni |
| 23:48.17 | pha | not when your toaster needs an ip |
| 23:48.35 | pfred1 | pha my toaster will never need an IP |
| 23:48.43 | dzhonni | ipv6 has sense in big corporations, normal people'll use ipv4 in their home LAN |
| 23:49.00 | Dagger3 | uh, no, people will use v6 at home too |
| 23:49.07 | rryoumaa | i'd like to install debian on an external hard drive. is there a way to do this while still using the computer (on the internal hard drive)? |
| 23:49.08 | pha | set it to have your toast ready just before you walk out the door... I can dig it. |
| 23:49.18 | pha | :p |
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| 23:49.36 | moof2 | rryoumaa, what's on the internal? can you boot from the ext? |
| 23:49.40 | rryoumaa | i.e. i am running debian on an internal hard drive, and i want to set up the partitioning and grub and so on on the external hard drive so that i can boot from it. |
| 23:49.53 | rryoumaa | moof2: i don't know what is required to make an external hd bootable |
| 23:49.58 | rryoumaa | so i don't know |
| 23:50.12 | dzhonni | i disabled v6 in sysctl and my router is configured the same |
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| 23:50.18 | dzhonni | :) |
| 23:50.33 | moof2 | well you might want to poke around in the bios, looking at boot order and devices |
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| 23:51.00 | dzhonni | rryoumaa: a VM |
| 23:51.01 | rryoumaa | basically, my internal hd has lvm set up, and i want to blow that away and do normal partitioning on it, but i can't because lvm took up the whole drive. so i figure i will set up my external hd then boot then set up the internal one. i just hate using the netinst because i can't use the computer in the meantime. |
| 23:52.10 | moof2 | you could boot off the internal and add the external's debian to it after install (i.e. boot grub from internal, which would have the external's installation as a menu item |
| 23:52.24 | pfred1 | rryoumaa I've IRCed during net installs |
| 23:52.44 | dzhonni | rryoumaa: install debian on a Vm directly on the external usb hd or you can install as a normal vm and then dump the partition on the ext. disk via dd + nc |
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| 23:53.23 | moof2 | well dd is not necessarily recommended for this purpose |
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| 23:54.00 | moof2 | but that process is as easy as you say |
| 23:54.18 | dzhonni | moof2: why? i used it 1k times for this case |
| 23:54.20 | rryoumaa | i don't understand either of you :() |
| 23:55.17 | moof2 | rryoumaa, the vm thing isn't necessary... you can easily install onto the ext, you can use an installer or you can use debootstrap |
| 23:55.20 | rryoumaa | i was hoping there was some program i could run that is exactly like netinst except you don't have to boot it from a cd |
| 23:55.43 | rryoumaa | ah, is debootstrap such a program? |
| 23:55.43 | dzhonni | rryoumaa: 1)install virtualbox 2) create a vm 2) install debian on the vm 3) dump the partition on the ext disk. and you're done |
| 23:55.53 | moof2 | that would be debootstrap (and partition the drive and mount the partitions first) |
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| 23:56.31 | moof2 | yaknow, I do want to try that myself sometime |
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| 23:56.35 | dzhonni | moof2: he can directly install on the hd via vm if his virtualbox has usb support |
| 23:56.37 | Dagger3 | debootstrap isn't quite a replacement for the Debian installer though |
| 23:57.29 | moof2 | it just installs the base, then you have to install a kernel and arrange to boot the installation |
| 23:58.19 | Dagger3 | and do any other setup steps the installer does, yeah |
| 23:58.36 | moof2 | debotsrap just installs several packages... you have to do other work too |
| 23:58.39 | Dagger3 | I suggest not using debootstrap if possible |
| 23:58.43 | dzhonni | if he download the iso he can just install in the vm without even burd a cd or do the usb bootable stick thing |
| 23:58.48 | rryoumaa | so i boot to my internal lvm hd, then aptitude install virtualbox, (then something), then stick my netinst in the cd tray, (then something), then install to the external? somehow? i'm happy to do it in any way that gives me approximately the same result as installing. |
| 23:58.53 | dzhonni | *burn |
| 23:59.04 | dzhonni | he can boot via iso file |
| 23:59.13 | rryoumaa | i already have a netinst cd |
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| 23:59.29 | moof2 | the easiest is just to boot the cd |
| 23:59.55 | rryoumaa | i can't use the computer in the meantime though, which i'd like to avoid |