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| 00:15.30 | james41382 | I am playing around with manually configuring home networks using the terminal and I am trying to setup wifi, but I am getting Destination Host Unreachable when I try to ping the router and I can't get out of the LAN. |
| 00:15.46 | james41382 | I can ping other hosts on the LAN including my own IP. |
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| 00:46.02 | alakulihal | hello anyone |
| 00:46.31 | alakulihal | I want ask my problem, anyone can help me? |
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| 01:11.01 | danharibo | hmm |
| 01:11.08 | danharibo | I have ath9k_htc loaded |
| 01:11.11 | danharibo | but no wlan0 device |
| 01:11.15 | danharibo | What do I do now |
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| 01:20.10 | Fire-Dragon-DoL1 | I need some directions to find out how to recover from a kernel panic on debian wheezy, created after installing nvidia drivers. (the ssd with the o.s. on it is ok) |
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| 01:37.25 | Th0masR0ss | !repeating |
| 01:37.25 | dpkg | We read your question the first time, and if we haven't replied, there's a good chance we either don't know, don't have time to answer, or someone doesn't like you. Repeating is annoying. |
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| 01:47.36 | nitz | I recently tried to upgrade to 7.1 with "apt-get dist-upgrade" but halfway through I ran into an error: "Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk-3-0_3.8.2-3_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk2.0-0_2.24.20-1_amd64.deb" It seems that I need to get dpkg to version 1.6.10, but the unmet dependencies from that. Any advice? |
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| 01:48.43 | nitz | unment *dependencies *prevent me from doing that* |
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| 01:50.09 | dvs | nitz: shoulda read the release notes. |
| 01:50.43 | nitz | dvs: guess so. Link? |
| 01:51.37 | dvs | nitz: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 01:53.04 | nitz | thanks :) |
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| 01:54.21 | nitz | Well I have the list of unmet dependencies. Is there a way I can revert to those older versions? |
| 01:55.00 | dvs | !downgrade |
| 01:55.01 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 02:00.08 | nitz | dpkg: thanks. That helps I think. At least provides a possible path forward |
| 02:00.08 | dpkg | nitz: de nada |
| 02:02.44 | Th0masR0ss | Would http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.1.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso come with a DM by default? |
| 02:03.01 | dvs | I'd say so. |
| 02:03.24 | Th0masR0ss | do i choose at install or what happens? |
| 02:04.00 | dvs | Th0masR0ss: If you choose "Desktop Environment" during the install, you will get the xfce environment. |
| 02:04.06 | Fire-Dragon-DoL | is possible to install kernel from debian cd over an already installed debian? |
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| 02:04.25 | critter | I cant manage to make /dev/dsp in my debian |
| 02:04.26 | critter | any help? |
| 02:04.33 | Th0masR0ss | dvs: yeah. Apparently (according to Xfce website) Xfce doesn't come with a dm |
| 02:04.53 | Th0masR0ss | I'm wondering if/which dm I'll get |
| 02:04.55 | dvs | wonders what he's using then |
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| 02:05.32 | peterrooney | Th0masR0ss: xfce4 depends on xfwm4 |
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| 02:08.36 | Th0masR0ss | Ok...isn't that a wm not a dm? |
| 02:09.02 | Th0masR0ss | I'm tAlkikg about a login manager not a window manager? |
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| 02:09.35 | evissimbus | You sound like you're confusing yourself even.. |
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| 02:12.00 | nitz | Can apt-get give me a list of held packages? |
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| 02:13.19 | evissimbus | nitz: Apt-cache? |
| 02:14.14 | evissimbus | nitz: http://www.ccl.net/cca/software/UNIX/updating-redhat/apt-howto/how-to-use-apt-cache.html It sounds like you want "apt-cache pkgnames" |
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| 02:20.55 | nitz | evilicey: does that just list any package? Or just the held ones? That list seems very long. |
| 02:21.30 | evissimbus | nitz: Did my links not help? |
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| 02:22.57 | nitz | It looks about the same as the manual. |
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| 02:51.29 | ntzrmtthihu777 | Hello, small question. I recall reading somewhere a command that will create a "dummy" or blank debian source package you could use for setting up a *.deb or ppa package, does anyone know it offhand? |
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| 03:03.05 | LainOfTheWired | I'm having a couple of issues when I try to install debian 7.1.0 on a sun netra x1, the main one being that when I try to install the base system it starts to slow down to a halt and I never get past 40% on the install |
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| 03:31.54 | Fire-Dragon-DoL | is possible to install debian over debian |
| 03:31.59 | Fire-Dragon-DoL | keeping user files? |
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| 03:34.14 | nitz | I am making a backup of important files outside of the $HOME dir and preparing for a reinstall due to a unresolvable conflict. Any config files or folders outside of the home dir that anyone would recommend I would take a look at and make backups of? |
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| 03:45.47 | james41382 | I downloaded the kernel source of the repo, but now what? |
| 03:45.51 | james41382 | from* |
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| 04:03.40 | monkwitdafunk | Hi users of freenode. Why is there eleven diffrent images for burning a raw image which would be debian linux for the amd64 cpu architechture? |
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| 04:06.16 | elppdppd | monkwitdafunk: a possible answer is that there are such many architectures debian supports. |
| 04:07.01 | Coweater | monkwitdafunk: are you looking at the CD-1.iso CD-2.iso etc... |
| 04:07.04 | monkwitdafunk | Yes, the architecture is amd64. There are eleven raw images for amd64 |
| 04:07.30 | elppdppd | oh, i am sorry. Could you post a url please? |
| 04:09.13 | roger25 | eleven cds for all the packages on cds, use the the single netinst iso |
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| 04:10.19 | monkwitdafunk | Ok, the apache server may have changed the html it was serving. I only see four diffrent images now |
| 04:12.12 | monkwitdafunk | Cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 04:12.39 | monkwitdafunk | Is this the right link for checking the md5sum and downloading? |
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| 04:12.57 | monkwitdafunk | I think i saw eleven diffrent images earlier |
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| 04:18.55 | monkwitdafunk | Sorry, it seems like the server is not responding when checking the link i posted |
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| 04:24.52 | phy1729 | Why does dpkg quit everyday at 11:05:02 UTC? |
| 04:25.50 | Arafangion | phy1729: You mean, on your computer? |
| 04:26.04 | phy1729 | time wise? |
| 04:26.06 | monkwitdafunk | The link is sponsored by the ripe network coordination centre. Is thay right? |
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| 04:29.31 | dbcooper20132 | hi guys |
| 04:30.18 | evissimbus | Hi dbcooper20132 |
| 04:30.35 | dbcooper20132 | sorry, testing my IRC client |
| 04:30.53 | dbcooper20132 | just needed to see what color other usernames show up in |
| 04:30.59 | dbcooper20132 | and it's still not changed yet |
| 04:30.59 | phy1729 | Arafangion: http://sprunge.us/YRBT |
| 04:31.02 | evissimbus | =p |
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| 04:34.03 | evissimbus | Can anyone help me? I'm doing a non-graphical install of Debian Wheezy on my laptop and after the initial install I have found I have no internet off the start (While bridging to my desktop) how do I get internet on my laptop? |
| 04:39.11 | entitativity | Is anyone else having an issue connecting to cdimage.debian.org? |
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| 04:44.48 | evissimbus | Can anyone help me? I'm doing a non-graphical install of Debian Wheezy on my laptop and after the initial install I have found I have no internet off the start (While bridging to my desktop) how do I get internet on my laptop? |
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| 04:49.13 | mumixam | bridging to you desktop? |
| 04:49.32 | mumixam | you might need a crossover cable is your hardware is old |
| 04:49.48 | mumixam | how is dhcp providered? |
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| 04:53.43 | monkwitdafunk | Mumixam, you can use a dhcp server as a fat client and your thin client may pxe boot which boots its operating system over a network so no hard disk.is needed |
| 04:54.00 | monkwitdafunk | Thats one system example |
| 04:54.15 | rhizome | i have a new install, a usb soundcard, and no sound. all the alsa howto stuff i've found seems a bit old. |
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| 04:54.49 | mumixam | i was talking to evissimbus monkwitdafunk |
| 04:54.51 | alberto | Someone recommend me a server openvpn safe and free? |
| 04:55.02 | mumixam | alberto: what? |
| 04:55.21 | alberto | Some good you know. |
| 04:56.01 | clue_h | vpnbook, but you can't really trust free ones |
| 04:56.16 | alberto | I'm trying vpnbook, but the network manager does not accept the configuration file. |
| 04:56.41 | entitativity | Does anyone know an alternative site to get the cd iso torrents? |
| 04:56.50 | entitativity | for wheezy specifically |
| 04:56.55 | rhizome | alternative to what? |
| 04:57.00 | entitativity | to debian.org |
| 04:57.22 | alberto | anyone use vpnbook? |
| 04:57.23 | entitativity | cdimage.debian.org seems to be having server issues |
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| 04:59.38 | entitativity | alberto ive been using ibvpn. its costs like 5 usd a month. pretty worth it if you're big on anonymity |
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| 05:00.45 | alberto | already tested vpnbook? |
| 05:00.59 | entitativity | Is it free? |
| 05:01.01 | rhizome | entitativity: huh, i just got a cd image a few hours ago |
| 05:01.15 | alberto | is free |
| 05:01.19 | rhizome | it's free for 5 usd a month |
| 05:01.38 | entitativity | rhizome yeah, it seems to have been recent. may just have to dig out my old drive |
| 05:02.17 | alberto | What do you think of this site? http://www.goldenfrog.com/ is vyprvpn |
| 05:02.27 | entitativity | alberto ill say this once. those "free" vpn providers are businesses. they will want to make money off of you. The easiest way to do that is to sell any info of yours that they get access to. |
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| 05:02.56 | entitativity | so its really not "anonymous" because your private info is being used to churn a profit. |
| 05:03.51 | alberto | I thought they lived only on donations. |
| 05:04.13 | entitativity | what, you read that on their homepage? |
| 05:04.21 | alberto | But this not free http://www.goldenfrog.com/ is vyprvpn |
| 05:04.45 | alberto | Already tested it? |
| 05:05.23 | alberto | This is a page off vpnbook http://www.vpnbook.com/ this is free |
| 05:05.27 | alberto | of* |
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| 05:08.41 | entitativity | alberto I can only personally recommend: mullvad, anonine, and ibvpn |
| 05:08.56 | alberto | ok |
| 05:09.04 | entitativity | all paid. all hosted in non-us countries |
| 05:09.16 | entitativity | but all within 5-6 us dollars a month |
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| 05:27.22 | alberto | entitativity: http://www.vpnbook.com/contact privacy term |
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| 05:30.33 | entitativity | alberto I'm not here to argue or debate. What I told you was knowledge passed to me from a group of very paranoid anonymity crazed people who spend their days assisting people with browsing privately. |
| 05:31.11 | entitativity | you may have heard of them on the net or in the news. Anonymous. those guys know about anonymity. |
| 05:31.22 | alberto | I know, just wanted to see your opinion. |
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| 05:31.42 | entitativity | my opinion is if their free, i don't trust them. period. |
| 05:32.06 | alberto | ok |
| 05:32.14 | entitativity | you think it matter anyway? you heard of the NSA? |
| 05:32.15 | entitativity | lol |
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| 05:33.14 | entitativity | feels like those tin-hat folks might not be so crazy with all of this talk about PRISM and such |
| 05:33.14 | alberto | I live in Brazil, but if I use VPN server does not pick up any American? Which country do you recommend? |
| 05:33.42 | entitativity | sweden. |
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| 05:33.54 | entitativity | the netherlands |
| 05:34.06 | evissimbus | alberto: Most European countries are good picks imo |
| 05:34.14 | entitativity | ^ |
| 05:34.50 | alberto | ok |
| 05:35.04 | evissimbus | If you're worried about internet laws and such I believe Bahrain and Sri Lanka have very unrestricting laws though if I remember correctly |
| 05:36.18 | alberto | It is true that the VPN can increase the speed of the current real connection? |
| 05:36.39 | entitativity | theoretically |
| 05:36.47 | evissimbus | alberto: I wouldn't count on it |
| 05:36.51 | alberto | My speed is 8mb |
| 05:37.27 | alberto | she could reach that speed? how many in%? |
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| 05:37.38 | alberto | 'this* |
| 05:37.47 | evissimbus | alberto: I would typically expect slower to significantly slower speeds when using a VPN. Not saying that is always the case by any means, I'm just saying you shouldn't expect faster. |
| 05:37.55 | entitativity | the idea is that your isp wont be able to tell if your downloading torrents vs reading a pdf because everything is encrypted. usually isps throttle your speed if your sucking up bandwith |
| 05:38.05 | entitativity | but because everything is encrypted |
| 05:38.13 | entitativity | it will be obvious your up to something weird |
| 05:38.29 | entitativity | so theyll probably throttle you, and the vpn wont be as good a connection to start with |
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| 05:39.00 | alberto | right |
| 05:39.01 | entitativity | that is in no way technically accurate, but you should get the idea. |
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| 05:42.18 | evissimbus | Fucking non-free wifi firmware. :c |
| 05:42.21 | entitativity | I wonder if ill be able to get the nifty built-in keyboard light on this old IBM thinkpad to function after I wipe windows and install debian. |
| 05:42.43 | entitativity | thats just a matter of finding the correct drivers, right? |
| 05:42.58 | evissimbus | Kind of |
| 05:43.02 | evissimbus | It's more of a bitch |
| 05:43.16 | entitativity | its one of those akward laptop function keys |
| 05:43.26 | evissimbus | I'll need to have a FAT32 USB with the files I need and use that during the install to install it the way I'd want to.. :\ |
| 05:43.48 | evissimbus | At least that's the only way I've heard of working, but I haven't done a lot of research to be fair. |
| 05:43.49 | entitativity | oh yeah i had to do that |
| 05:44.00 | entitativity | do you have an ethernet connection? |
| 05:44.11 | evissimbus | Nope, even wired wasn't working |
| 05:44.17 | entitativity | damn |
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| 05:44.54 | evissimbus | Yup. |
| 05:45.12 | evissimbus | I am just install Ubuntu.. :\ |
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| 05:45.17 | entitativity | well you should be able to get the correct drivers from your manufacturer. slapping on a usb and loading from that isnt terrible |
| 05:45.24 | evissimbus | Ubuntu feels so disgusting to me now though, haha |
| 05:45.28 | evissimbus | Yeah |
| 05:45.30 | entitativity | poobuntu |
| 05:45.33 | entitativity | lol |
| 05:45.34 | evissimbus | ^ |
| 05:45.54 | entitativity | debian with xfce is the sexiest thing ive experienced |
| 05:46.00 | evissimbus | :P |
| 05:46.13 | entitativity | coming from a lifetime of windows an macintosh though |
| 05:46.18 | evissimbus | Debian non-graphical install > Ubuntu for sure, haha. |
| 05:47.02 | entitativity | ubuntu server is ok. all command line. lol |
| 05:47.59 | evissimbus | Yeah.. I like shitting on it, but it will do the job.. I'm mostly just peeved over the amount of bloatware on it. So much random shit and settings I don't want and it's all configured to be over the top user friendly |
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| 05:48.57 | entitativity | yeah. thats almost... anti-linux... |
| 05:49.06 | entitativity | bloatware... user friendly... |
| 05:49.08 | entitativity | lol |
| 05:49.43 | entitativity | Im pretty sure theyre making an ubuntu phone. |
| 05:49.51 | evissimbus | .-. |
| 05:49.56 | evissimbus | That's interesting. |
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| 05:50.19 | entitativity | could be |
| 05:50.29 | entitativity | could be like the facebook phone though |
| 05:50.33 | evissimbus | Eww |
| 05:50.36 | evissimbus | Yeah that'd suck |
| 05:50.39 | entitativity | exactly |
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| 05:51.07 | evissimbus | If it's like some free open source software kind of linux based phone that'd be pretty cool though. |
| 05:52.34 | evissimbus | Argh.. I guess I better just get this damn firmware on a USB and do this |
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| 05:53.49 | entitativity | yeah. i may have to do the same shortly >.< |
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| 05:54.49 | evissimbus | If I was missing iwlwifi-5000-1(2,3,4,5) do you think I could just put http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/firmware-iwlwifi that on there and be set? |
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| 05:55.37 | entitativity | i would make sure yours is included. the package contents should be listed |
| 05:55.56 | evissimbus | They are, but I only see iwlwifi-5000-1 and 2 |
| 05:55.59 | evissimbus | :\ |
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| 05:56.11 | entitativity | hmm try it |
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| 05:57.43 | evissimbus | :| god dammit.. My USB isn't being detected.. I think I might just try uninstall half of Ubuntu and recustomizing the other half, lol. |
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| 05:57.54 | entitativity | O.o |
| 05:58.07 | evissimbus | I am lazy in the weirdest ways.. |
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| 05:59.55 | evissimbus | Oh well, I have a month to get this laptop ready still and can change my mind.. Until then I never really leave my house except for work sooo.. All is well. Ubuntu will do for now. |
| 06:00.31 | entitativity | hey, at least your being honest with yourself :P |
| 06:00.54 | evissimbus | Haha yeah |
| 06:01.17 | evissimbus | I'll write it off as a learning experience, haven't been on Ubunto for awhile ;P |
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| 06:01.42 | evissimbus | See? My laziness is now proactivity.. I'm great at this! |
| 06:01.49 | evissimbus | Haha |
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| 06:09.06 | evissimbus | fffffffffuuuuuuuuuu |
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| 06:09.33 | evissimbus | I've been customizing Ubuntu all this time and I forgot to actually install it instead of just using "Try Ubuntu" |
| 06:10.47 | entitativity | lmfao |
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| 06:17.20 | php-noob | how can i see dpkg MSG from sources.list? |
| 06:17.54 | php-noob | i know dpkg bot have a list about actual repositories :) |
| 06:18.32 | php-noob | however, that i really need is how i can install myslq-5.1 instead 5.5.... |
| 06:18.50 | php-noob | mysql, srry :) |
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| 06:19.32 | php-noob | mumpitzel here?? i little question |
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| 06:20.00 | evissimbus | php-noob: Search for mysql-5.1.deb on the internet and download it instead of apt-getting? |
| 06:20.33 | php-noob | evissimbus do i need any special command to install with dpkg? |
| 06:21.15 | evissimbus | Install the 5.1 .deb file, then cd into it's location and type dpkg -i filename |
| 06:21.35 | mumpitzel | hm? |
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| 06:24.24 | evissimbus | php-noob: http://pkgs.org/download/mysql-client-5.1 |
| 06:24.45 | php-noob | i found it here too |
| 06:24.47 | php-noob | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/armel/mysql-server-5.1/download |
| 06:24.53 | php-noob | i will try both |
| 06:24.54 | evissimbus | Ah |
| 06:24.57 | php-noob | thx |
| 06:24.58 | evissimbus | Use Debian |
| 06:25.00 | evissimbus | Np :) |
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| 06:25.17 | evissimbus | Debian.org always more reliable :P |
| 06:25.51 | php-noob | mumpitzel: im the one guy with very very strange debian instalation :) and problems with openssl (libssl-0.9.8) |
| 06:26.18 | php-noob | mumpitzel: cannot install x11vnc because it requires a libssl upgrade and the upgrade fucks all my sytem :) |
| 06:26.29 | php-noob | i use apt-get hold command to prevent it :) |
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| 06:26.49 | php-noob | libpam too |
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| 06:28.32 | php-noob | there's a easy way to add scripts to autorun at startup from console??? |
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| 06:29.42 | mumpitzel | !rc.local |
| 06:29.42 | dpkg | /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. If you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is regarded as a hack, consider writing a real init script instead, ask me about <init.d>. |
| 06:30.18 | php-noob | ok, i edited it now, but im asking about create new autorun commands from console |
| 06:30.30 | php-noob | like add that "run pepito" |
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| 06:31.33 | php-noob | evissimbus: php-noob: http://pkgs.org/download/mysql-client-5.1 >> i see it, only i386 and amd packages here, see at my link :). Theres a lot of archs, i need ther armel one |
| 06:31.57 | php-noob | mumpitzel: "don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local" haha i edit it |
| 06:32.18 | php-noob | mumpitzel: I must create /etc/rc.local? |
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| 06:36.16 | mumpitzel | editing initrd.rc.local was a bad idea, yes |
| 06:36.56 | php-noob | but, do i need to create a /etc/rc.local instead?? will system read it??? being script at startup is so confusin :) |
| 06:37.28 | php-noob | evissimbus: finally i download it by wget, because apt-get tell my about 5.5 version :) thx |
| 06:38.14 | evissimbus | php-noob: Glad to help. :) |
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| 06:39.17 | socomm | people still use php? i thought python was all the rage nowadays |
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| 06:40.00 | evissimbus | PHP is still very useful and still growing |
| 06:41.16 | socomm | I've heard so many bad things about php, I wouldn't even bother |
| 06:42.00 | php-noob | i use php :) too |
| 06:42.08 | evissimbus | Over 244million websites use it.. So I mean... :p |
| 06:42.33 | php-noob | "still", php is most popular language, and every language is best for a concrete function |
| 06:43.26 | socomm | remember when windows 98 was the most used OS in the world |
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| 06:43.52 | php-noob | evissimbus: i have to get all dependencies one by one :S norrrr!! haha |
| 06:44.05 | evissimbus | php-noob: Haha, have fun. |
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| 06:45.03 | evissimbus | socomm: I think you underestimate PHP, PHP 6 is looking to be pretty fantastic whenever it ever comes out.. But regardless, as is it is more popular than ASP.NET and JSP and for good reason :X |
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| 06:45.15 | evissimbus | But I may be biased since I currently have 2 PHP books on my desk ;P |
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| 06:46.00 | kanliot | <? insert rant > |
| 06:46.06 | mumpitzel | evissimbus: I'm sure it's released right after perl6 :P |
| 06:46.16 | socomm | evissimbus: perl guys would same about perl, same goes for python programers biased towards python |
| 06:46.36 | evissimbus | socomm: So I can't really input anything, haha xD |
| 06:46.55 | socomm | evissimbus: gotta love whatever puts food on your table |
| 06:47.13 | kanliot | php does kind of limit the apps you can write tho... python not so much |
| 06:47.17 | evissimbus | socomm: I'm still a teenager, I don't get shit for liking PHP yet |
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| 06:47.54 | socomm | evissimbus: maybe you should try a language that does pay then |
| 06:47.55 | awsawsaws | http://pastebin.com/S3cCKuPS |
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| 06:49.27 | evissimbus | socomm: PHP is a hobby, not a job; WebDev in general is purely for extra fun on the side; I'm gearing myself more-so towards Software Engineering than Web development and design |
| 06:50.52 | socomm | evissimbus: good luck |
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| 06:51.21 | evissimbus | socomm: Thanks :) |
| 06:54.51 | evissimbus | Hoping to get into a good future, currently 18 and working as a Sys Admin for the fastest growing company in the city and expanding like crazy while getting my AA and AS together and studying my ass off at home for extra knowledge; Hopefully it all pays off and I get a sweet job and salary in a few years.. If not, hell, at least I'm doing what I love. :] |
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| 06:57.26 | socomm | evissimbus: try to work out of being a code monkey/sys admin |
| 06:57.40 | socomm | evissimbus: the real money is in management or senior roles |
| 06:59.07 | evissimbus | socomm: I'm aware, but being a paid sysAdmin at 18 before I even start college at a multiple million dollar company that is rapidly expanding is kind of an awesome place for me at the moment :P I'm learning a lot |
| 06:59.50 | socomm | evissimbus: keep at it, hope it works out well |
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| 07:00.40 | evissimbus | socomm: Thanks, same. :) I'm hoping to develope some software and websites on the side and hopefully I can get a project to take off and give me some recognition while I'm still at college |
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| 07:01.01 | php-noob | 18 years? |
| 07:01.01 | socomm | evissimbus: awesome good luck |
| 07:01.06 | socomm | i should go to bed |
| 07:02.07 | kanliot | evissimbus, a little humility wouldn't hurt |
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| 07:04.01 | evissimbus | kanliot: Sorry, I'm excited haha; It's kind of hard to hide right now, my life was complete shit to the point where I was completely suicidal and miserable and then all in a few months my entire life flipped around and everything has been going perfect |
| 07:04.40 | kanliot | well if you change your energy to professionalism you will go far |
| 07:05.41 | evissimbus | kanliot: I'll try to, thanks for the reminder. :) |
| 07:06.01 | php-noob | evissimbus: 18 years old? |
| 07:06.07 | evissimbus | php-noob: Correct |
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| 07:07.14 | php-noob | evissimbus: suicidal is better proposal when you have married 2 times, got 3 childrens and cannot pay your life :) |
| 07:07.25 | php-noob | studi a lot is better than get married twice XD |
| 07:07.51 | evissimbus | php-noob: Haha, well I hopefully won't have to deal with those kind of thoughts again :P |
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| 07:08.00 | php-noob | evissimbus: good luck at job ;) |
| 07:08.11 | kanliot | how about have advanced gall bladder disease after you lost your health insurance |
| 07:08.13 | evissimbus | php-noob: Thanks, I appreciate it. :) |
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| 07:09.10 | evissimbus | kanliot: I'll have to just have to enjoy life as it is and try my best to maintain my current happiness; Anything negative could happen at any time, no point dwelling on it. =p |
| 07:09.16 | Marqin | my box i rebooting too long (and it's not local).. and i logs i have that rsyslogd stopped at 08:04:33 and started at 08:42:08 |
| 07:09.20 | Marqin | how can i debug it? |
| 07:09.23 | Marqin | and to see |
| 07:09.30 | Marqin | if it's problem with booting or shutting down |
| 07:10.20 | php-noob | :( i have no luck with mysql-5.1 instead 5.5, got same error |
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| 07:10.44 | php-noob | pretty fustrated my attempt to make a LAMP device with my wm8505 smarshit |
| 07:11.19 | evissimbus | php-noob: Still no luck? Damn..:( |
| 07:11.27 | evissimbus | php-noob: Why can't you use 5.5? |
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| 07:13.24 | php-noob | because i got a problem "dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.1 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:" |
| 07:13.44 | php-noob | i try older strable mysql-server-5.1 but still no lucky |
| 07:14.02 | evissimbus | php-noob: Sorry to hear it, not sure what else I can recommend :\ |
| 07:14.35 | php-noob | np. i read somewhere using 5.1 helps, but not my case |
| 07:14.56 | php-noob | i'll try older version :) |
| 07:15.12 | php-noob | i will use stone-age mysql server if needed |
| 07:15.19 | evissimbus | php-noob: Haha, good luck :P |
| 07:15.29 | php-noob | mi GOAL is use that kind of shit smarbook as a webserver :) |
| 07:15.57 | evissimbus | php-noob: I'm sure you'll get it working soon enough :) |
| 07:16.06 | php-noob | i dont think so :( |
| 07:16.27 | evissimbus | php-noob: Keep asking around here, someone will know how to help you; Tbh I'm pretty clueless myself :P |
| 07:16.31 | php-noob | but still trying :) |
| 07:16.53 | php-noob | yeah, im triying that along 1 month or more... |
| 07:17.07 | evissimbus | php-noob: Oh wow o_o |
| 07:17.27 | php-noob | next steep, put smartbook into 4st floor and see how it can fly :) |
| 07:17.36 | php-noob | 32€ smarbooks arm :) haha |
| 07:17.40 | evissimbus | php-noob: Haha |
| 07:18.06 | php-noob | i put inside Android2.2 but same! no one phpserver runs OK into 2.2 version :( |
| 07:18.08 | evissimbus | php-noob: How important is it that it is running Debian? You might have a much easier time install MySQL on something like Windows 7 |
| 07:18.16 | php-noob | because that im triying debian |
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| 07:18.31 | evissimbus | php-noob: Yeah.. I know what you mean :P |
| 07:18.33 | php-noob | i have wamp on my windows7 |
| 07:18.42 | php-noob | see wm8505 debian on google |
| 07:18.52 | php-noob | you will know what im doing :) XD |
| 07:19.17 | php-noob | and why get problems is so normal in that case :( |
| 07:19.37 | evissimbus | php-noob: Heh :P |
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| 07:27.38 | php-noob | evissimbus: invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed thats my actual fail step |
| 07:28.34 | evissimbus | php-noob: Honestly I have no idea how to fix that, I'm sorry; I wish I was of more help :C |
| 07:29.36 | php-noob | :) no. thx |
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| 07:29.56 | php-noob | i must go... i have enough linux commands for today :) |
| 07:29.57 | php-noob | bb |
| 07:30.08 | evissimbus | php-noob: Goodnight :) |
| 07:30.38 | php-noob | 9:30 am here XD night is a thing os past |
| 07:30.53 | evissimbus | php-noob: Oh wow |
| 07:31.00 | evissimbus | php-noob: It's only 3:30AM here |
| 07:31.07 | php-noob | BYE :) |
| 07:31.13 | evissimbus | php-noob: Bye :) |
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| 07:51.02 | R0SSI | I want to decrease the video quality as much as possible, but I want to keep the original audio quality; in summary: Replacing video with black frame |
| 07:51.03 | R0SSI | ? |
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| 08:08.56 | Gent | anyone here use cloud-int with Amazon? |
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| 08:10.14 | lord4163 | Gent: We have got our own clouds :-) |
| 08:10.46 | Gent | I don't know what that means |
| 08:11.09 | Gent | I just need help figuring out why cloud-init doesn't load user data |
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| 08:11.30 | Gent | it starts, other plugins seem to start, user data is downloaded to a text file... but it's never run |
| 08:11.44 | Gent | if I run the user data directly by SSHing to the server after, then is works |
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| 08:13.40 | pkay | hello. upon booting from an install dvd, i get the error "Kernel panic - not syncing: vgs Unable to mount root fs on known-block(2,0) - I've tried googling, but all the answers are for systems that are already installed - any idea? |
| 08:14.10 | Gent | bad burn? |
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| 08:14.38 | pkay | burned it again, in another drive - md5 is correct |
| 08:16.38 | lord4163 | pkay: Seems like a common error, last week someone tried to install Ubuntu and had the same error. Don't know what the solution was. |
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| 08:18.24 | pkay | let me try on this laptop, brb |
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| 08:22.44 | pkay | same error, on 3 different computers |
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| 08:22.55 | pkay | could it be a corrupted download if the MD5 sum checks? |
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| 08:24.01 | lord4163 | pkay: can't you use a flash drive? |
| 08:25.34 | pkay | not right now |
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| 08:26.09 | pkay | i'm burning for the third time on a different brand of dvds |
| 08:26.19 | pkay | lets see |
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| 08:28.32 | pkay | same error |
| 08:28.59 | lord4163 | pkay: how do you burn so fast? |
| 08:29.21 | pkay | i throw them in the fireplace instead of using a lighter |
| 08:29.42 | lord4163 | pkay: ah :P |
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| 08:30.35 | kanliot | pkay i would try other linuxes, see if you can get them booted, or maybe it's some kind of security in your bios |
| 08:30.35 | babilen | pkay: Which image is that? |
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| 08:30.47 | pkay | debian-testing-i386-DVD-1.iso |
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| 08:31.22 | babilen | pkay: The testing installer is not expected to work at all right now and really shouldn't be used. I am not surprised that you have problems with it -- Why don't you use a working version of the installer? |
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| 08:31.35 | pkay | oh :\ |
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| 08:32.23 | babilen | pkay: In short: If you want to use/run testing you should use the stable *installer* and I would furthermore recommend to install wheezy and not jessie with that. Once you installed a (minimal, just standard task maybe?) wheezy system you can upgrade that to testing. |
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| 08:33.05 | babilen | pkay: The testing installer is meant for testing the installer not for installing testing. And at this point in the release cycle nobody really cares about the next version of the installer (or rather if it is working or not) |
| 08:33.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell pkay -about firmware image |
| 08:33.51 | babilen | It's one of the most common misconceptions. You can install testing with the stable installer, but we don't recommend that either .. :) |
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| 08:34.32 | pkay | so i install stable, change my repositories to testing after that, and upgrade my whole system? |
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| 08:34.47 | lord4163 | pkay: you can do so :-) |
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| 08:35.06 | maroloccio | hi #debian. :) i am looking for some help w/ wheezy failing to hibernate. kern.log: PM: Normal pages needed: 122819 + 1024, available pages: 104329 |
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| 08:35.59 | babilen | pkay: Yes, exactly. It is the only "supported" way to install testing right now. I would also recommend to read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable as a lot of the tips in there apply to testing too. You might want to consider a testing/unstable mix at this point in the release cycle as that allows you to pull in packages from unstable if needed. See <tum> for details. (/msg dpkg tum) |
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| 08:37.29 | babilen | maroloccio: Looks as if your swap is not large enough for the data that has to be written. How much RAM do you have and how large is your swap? |
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| 08:40.58 | maroloccio | babilen: thanks for helping. :) so.. `swapon --summary' says i am using a partition of size 8151036, `free' says i have 4030900 memory |
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| 08:41.07 | pkay | thanks for the tips |
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| 08:41.41 | babilen | maroloccio: May I see the entire output? |
| 08:41.46 | babilen | (on http://paste.debian.net ) |
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| 08:42.03 | maroloccio | works on pasting online.. |
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| 08:43.39 | pkay | is the tutorial on debian.org the best tutorial for netinstall? |
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| 08:44.16 | superlinux-hp | hi. how can download apt-get translations? |
| 08:44.21 | babilen | pkay: Which "tutorial" are you referring to? |
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| 08:44.42 | babilen | superlinux-hp: I don't follow, what do you mean? |
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| 08:47.41 | pkay | i was refering to this, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ - i'm not sure if it applies to netinstall though |
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| 08:48.02 | maroloccio | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/dbb7e17e |
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| 08:48.16 | babilen | pkay: Yes, that is our installation guide. Any particular reason why you install i386 and not amd64? |
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| 08:49.19 | pkay | babilen: honestly, no - i haven't been on linux since 2002, and i'm used to download i386 images. |
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| 08:49.20 | musca | superlinux-hp: i found it in the manpage for "apt.conf" |
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| 08:50.33 | babilen | pkay: You might want to consider amd64 (64bit) these days. We also support <multiarch> which allows you to install i386 only software on i386 systems -- See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
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| 08:51.04 | Alegreya | you need to register to joint ubuntu now? |
| 08:51.21 | Alegreya | thats not very open |
| 08:51.34 | musca | Alegreya: welcome to debian support :) |
| 08:52.22 | babilen | maroloccio: That doesn't seem to be the problem |
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| 08:53.16 | babilen | Alegreya: I fail to see how that question is related to #debian at all - Take it to #ubuntu-ops or #ubuntu-offtopic or whatnot. |
| 08:53.18 | maroloccio | babilen: :( |
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| 08:54.16 | maroloccio | babilen: any other ideas, perhaps? |
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| 08:54.38 | babilen | maroloccio: Could you paste the *entire* output ? There should be some output that looks like "Need to copy .." or so |
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| 08:57.57 | babilen | maroloccio: Your harddrive is in working order? Mind pasting the output of "smartctl -a /dev/sda" (assuming you have only one disk) ? |
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| 09:00.03 | babilen | maroloccio: Which version of Debian is that and which kernel do you use? (dpkg -l 'linux-image*') |
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| 09:01.58 | martin_ | hi |
| 09:02.12 | musca | hi martin_ |
| 09:02.31 | martin_ | I installed on my primary partition windows and on the extended partion debian. now i want to remove windows and use only debian |
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| 09:02.52 | martin_ | is there a way to merge the primary and extended partition? |
| 09:03.32 | babilen | maroloccio: ping? |
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| 09:08.20 | babilen | martin_: Not really - I mean you can do it, but it's going to be a complicated process that might take a long time. I'd reinstall and use a partitioning scheme that suits your needs. |
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| 09:09.37 | Dark_light | I have an odd issue on a laptop with wheezy and gnome sometimes the shutdown button just stops responding, I can easely turn it of from the termnal but since it's my dad's I need to fix it or he panics everytime |
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| 09:09.41 | babilen | martin_: You could, probably, shrink the primary partition and then enlarge the linux partition, you could then create a different filesystem on the primary (ex-windows) partition and use it for whatnot, but that'll take a while. Tools such as gparted/parted can help with these tasks (best run from a live cd), but I would recommend an install from scratch. (consider using LVM) |
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| 09:10.15 | martin_ | ok thanks babilen |
| 09:10.16 | musca | martin_: LVM2 is an abstraction layer for volumes |
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| 09:33.42 | GorillaPatch | Hello everybody I am experiencing problems with an avahi-daemon on a debian squeeze system. |
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| 09:48.12 | maroloccio2 | babilen: sorry, was the online paste of any use at all? |
| 09:48.19 | lotia | hello all. On wheezy I'm having an issue with lvm activation on a self compiled kernel. /home /usr and / are on logical volumes. On cold boot, the machine boots up fine. but when I reboot, it doesn't find the logical vols. Anyone had a similar experience. |
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| 09:50.01 | babilen | maroloccio2: Yes, it was and I made a few replies (that were ignored) |
| 09:50.13 | babilen | maroloccio2: Which version of Debian is that and which kernel do you use? |
| 09:51.19 | babilen | But I am working on something else right now and don't really want to invest the time to continue this further right now |
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| 09:53.34 | babilen | maroloccio2: You also seem to be gone again :( -- I'd recommend trying a new kernel, checking the integrity of you harddrive (smartctl, as indicated earlier), dropping caches and so on |
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| 10:04.02 | maroloccio2 | babilen: i am very sorry, i was disconnected! it probably shows in the logs.. i have a very flaky line :( |
| 10:05.03 | maroloccio2 | wheezy 7.1, kernel 3.9 from backports (3.2 would crash on resume, graphics card issues apparently, but 3.9 stopped that) |
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| 10:28.23 | mpavel | any clues to why PHP-FPM wouldn't start? staging server works well and I can see php-fpm in htop, but not on live server. no socket created (for nginx) nor does it work with TCP/IP on port :9000 :-/ |
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| 10:31.21 | g0dfrey | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.28 | g0dfrey | what's may be the problem? |
| 10:31.47 | g0dfrey | i'm using debian testing |
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| 10:32.55 | g0dfrey | I reinstall my laptop today and found the problem |
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| 10:44.36 | jxport | I'm running through the debian installer - two HDDs with same name ("Samsung <Model>") - how do I know which one is which when I select one to partition?! |
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| 10:46.23 | dutchfish | g0dfrey, maybe this q is one ofr #debian-next on OFTC? as far as i can answer mesa in testing still is rough at the edges, specially on nvidia hw acceleration, i have not tested it fully yet in jessie. |
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| 10:47.45 | g0dfrey | dutchfish: thank you . It works before . I'm going to uninstall nvidia* to have a try |
| 10:48.14 | mpavel | I found the PHP-FPM issue, APC was configured incorrectly and had an "M" at the end of the following line: apc.shm_size=128 |
| 10:48.27 | dutchfish | g0dfrey, ah ok. fyi i have several radeon running with not muc problems, but the nvidia's are a pita |
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| 11:15.09 | Azrael_- | how do i have to set up inittab to see the startup-messages in a custom console? |
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| 11:16.27 | Alroy | Hello. |
| 11:16.51 | Alroy | How can I setup the VPN only for some services not the whole traffic? |
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| 11:18.23 | Azrael_- | Alroy: as you can't use a program-specific routing i'd suggest setting up a proxy for the vpn and use this one. but with the vpn you have a similar problem |
| 11:18.42 | Azrael_- | beside using a different machine(vm) i can't think of a solution |
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| 11:19.27 | Alroy | Thought about adding a route and then use this on the VPN config so it's possible to add in the program another IP which would route over the VPN |
| 11:20.31 | Alroy | For example binding XChat to 127.0.0.23 and having all the traffic gone over the VPN |
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| 11:20.35 | Azrael_- | yeah but nearly no program allows you to use a specific outgoing ip, thus you can't set up a specific routing |
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| 11:20.54 | Alroy | It's possible in XChat and that's what counts. |
| 11:20.58 | Azrael_- | k |
| 11:21.14 | Azrael_- | then you should be fine with routing |
| 11:21.17 | Alroy | How do I setup this with ifconfig? |
| 11:21.24 | g0dfrey | the problem seems to be related to glx-* packages. |
| 11:21.30 | Azrael_- | route add is your way to go |
| 11:21.44 | Alroy | There are two eth0 and ppp0 |
| 11:22.08 | Azrael_- | add another ip, bind xchat to it, add routing |
| 11:22.49 | h2o_____ | hello in xchat-gnome, why can't i save change in a network i added, i wan't to remove a channel but i can't (close button on window is not working) |
| 11:23.54 | Alroy | Must the route go over ppp0 or eth0? |
| 11:23.57 | babilen | Alroy, Azrael_-: iproute2 is the way to go these days, see http://inai.de/2008/02/19 |
| 11:24.26 | Alroy | Thank you. |
| 11:26.07 | Alroy | That's a good page. |
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| 11:27.33 | zer0c00l | I have installed a custom kernel on my beaglebone black, how to i update uboot to pick it up on next boot? |
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| 11:30.38 | Azrael_- | babilen: thx |
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| 11:31.07 | babilen | Azrael_-: No problem :) |
| 11:31.21 | Alroy | How exactly to setup the stuff now? |
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| 11:33.33 | Azrael_- | i'm realizing i'm a little bit oldfashioned these days. but hey, as long as it still works just fine ... :) |
| 11:33.33 | Alroy | All I really need is a practical solution. |
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| 11:35.04 | Azrael_- | Alroy: you've got some hints, the programs to use but it's very unlikely somebody in here will give you a hand for every baby step. you should have now the pattern to go, the rest of knowledge you need should be easily found using google |
| 11:35.48 | Alroy | Yes, that's how it works. |
| 11:36.49 | Alroy | The night was too long and the day just begun, so it's most unlikely that I'll setup this anytime soon myself. It's understandable that nobody will do the work for me. |
| 11:37.44 | Azrael_- | it's very often just the same for me as you'd like a monkey doing the work for you but unfortunately that's not what life is like :) |
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| 11:38.39 | Azrael_- | after upgrading from lenny to squeeze i don't see the service startup-messages any more in the console xvc0. what do i have to change to see it there again? |
| 11:38.44 | Alroy | Anyways, thanks for all the help. |
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| 11:39.26 | Alroy | Hit F2 while booting? |
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| 11:40.23 | Azrael_- | Alroy: it's a xen-console and it should always show up |
| 11:40.30 | Azrael_- | you're welcome |
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| 11:42.59 | honvai | Can apt get for the system frequeny emulator? |
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| 11:46.11 | honvai | Or where we usual get info what there is that can download+ |
| 11:46.13 | honvai | ? |
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| 11:46.29 | grobda24 | I updated to Jessie from Wheezy and found Gnome-shell/Desktop had replaced my LXDE. How can I completely purge and Gnome dependencies ? I've tried tasksel, using "purge gnome*". Have manually removed all gnome packages and meta packages, and everytime aptitude still wants to install a lot of gnome stuff. I do not need Gnome for power management, etc as I use the command line for that. |
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| 11:51.40 | honvai | Mjaauu |
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| 12:01.56 | Stygia | Hello, I'm having a very strange problem. I'm on a testing system, and after reinstalling a game in WINE (I don't recall doing anything else significant) and rebooting, it seems that my sound now _only_ works in wine. |
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| 12:02.45 | Stygia | Sorry. |
| 12:02.56 | Stygia | Anyway, I've looked in both alsamixer (for every sound card) and pavucontrol, and nothing is muted. |
| 12:03.16 | Stygia | And both WINE sound tests and games work just fine - as the only application that can still use the sound device (speaker-test, music player, flash, etc) |
| 12:03.35 | Stygia | No WINE applications are running (I'm pretty certain, ps aux | grep -i wine and | grep -i exe shows nothing), and I have just logged out and back in. |
| 12:03.38 | Stygia | Any hints? |
| 12:06.13 | boudiccas | Stygia, reboot? |
| 12:06.50 | Stygia | boudiccas, I will admit I haven't done that, because usually it makes little difference in debian. It's just, hmm, it's weird because no wine applications appear to be running (wine with ALSA can lock the sound card). |
| 12:06.56 | Stygia | boudiccas, I guess I'll try though. |
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| 12:08.26 | boudiccas | Every now and then my system drops its sound, no output from alsa/mpd/pulseaudio and i have in the past rebooted to regain sound. yesterday i did 'sudo pkill dbus-launch' after googling for it. this gave me problems in logging out, what is a better thing to do to regain sound please? |
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| 12:09.41 | boudiccas | Stygia, 'export $(dbus-launch)' may work, but as you can see from my previous post, it can cause problems too |
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| 12:12.21 | james41382 | I am thinking about upgrading the kernel on wheezy. Any suggestions? |
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| 12:13.04 | NoOova | Hello |
| 12:13.15 | NoOova | How to setup gdm3 theme? |
| 12:13.23 | NoOova | i have not tool gdmsetup |
| 12:13.43 | NoOova | and in control center i dont have item "Logon screen" |
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| 12:13.50 | james41382 | http://www.kernel.org/ says that 3.4.53 is the latest long term version and 3.10.1 is the latest stable. |
| 12:14.00 | Stygia | boudiccas, A reboot did do the trick... weird, but thanks anyway. :) |
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| 12:14.05 | NoOova | (i has install debian from netinst cd, and update it to experimental) |
| 12:14.27 | boudiccas | Stygia, you're welcome :) |
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| 12:14.43 | kraehe | what is a good file manager, for someone who never used a computer before, that runs on a small (256mb RAM, 400mhz) machine - no desktop environment please |
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| 12:16.19 | NoOova | kraehe: midniht commander is a good one |
| 12:16.26 | NoOova | it is like FAR |
| 12:16.37 | NoOova | =))) |
| 12:16.52 | babilen | NoOova: One cannot upgrade stable to experimental -- experimental is not a real release and really shouldn't be used. IIRC gdm3 is no longer configured through gdmsetup and theming it is a bit, well, tricky. Google for "gdm3 theme" for various discussions on this topic. |
| 12:17.18 | NoOova | babilen: it was not stable. it was testing |
| 12:17.34 | babilen | NoOova: Also read http://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable to learn a little bit about the relation between experimental, unstable, testing and stable |
| 12:18.09 | babilen | NoOova: One also cannot upgrade a system to experimental. You can install single packages from experimental (at your own risk), but it is not a release that one can/should track |
| 12:18.13 | NoOova | babilen: in my sources list now is 2 lines. about experimental and aabout sid |
| 12:18.27 | kraehe | NoOova, MC is fine for people who learn command line - but they need a GUI file manager, as they never used a computer before |
| 12:18.58 | NoOova | kraehe: it was joke, i think that nemo is good for any human |
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| 12:37.27 | NoOova | What is differnece between SID and Unstable? |
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| 12:40.31 | kraehe | NoOova, it looks as if nemo is not available in Debian/Wheezy |
| 12:41.05 | NoOova | in my release it exists |
| 12:41.16 | NoOova | it is default debian/gnome file manager |
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| 12:42.53 | NoOova | SID is release name, like Wheezy, Lenny, Etch, and Unstable is a release type (Stable, unstable, testing and more). I understand it correctly? |
| 12:43.45 | NoOova | So Sid("Unstable") is debian release which has name Sid and release type Unstable. Correct? |
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| 12:44.24 | musca | as a first approach not bad :) |
| 12:44.27 | ex0a | when i'm running an rsync on a low-end server, udevd is using considerable (if not excess) cpu.. is this essential or can i disable udev for the time being and nothing break? |
| 12:44.33 | NoOova | And no more releases any time has type Unstable, instead Sid |
| 12:44.55 | NoOova | Correct? |
| 12:45.12 | musca | yes, sid will never be released and is allways unstable |
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| 12:49.46 | NoOova | Why lenny is named GNU/Linux, but Squeeze and Wheeze has not GNU/Linux in name> |
| 12:49.48 | NoOova | ? |
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| 12:50.06 | IPDude | Its redundant to have it in there anymore NoOova |
| 12:50.12 | ompaul | kfreebsd |
| 12:50.15 | IPDude | All future releases won't have GNU on it. |
| 12:50.29 | IPDude | It also uses the kFBSD kernel now also thats another reason why it wont be using that title. |
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| 12:56.24 | pl9308 | Does anyone know how to use port 5901 of the built-in vnc server without a monitor plugged in? Because we noticed that 5900 works all the time, and one account can be used with several sessions, whereas every vnc client sees the same things when using port 5901 BUT ONLY when there's a monitor plugged in |
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| 13:12.16 | musca | hi pl9308 |
| 13:12.21 | pl9308 | musca: hi |
| 13:13.00 | musca | without a monitor your xorg fails to start, this makes the difference, i guess. |
| 13:13.55 | pl9308 | yup, i've read about configurations in etc/x11/xorg.config i think but those configs didn't work at all |
| 13:14.35 | musca | ask a better question! What do you want to achieve? |
| 13:15.11 | musca | which user, what session? |
| 13:15.45 | Th0masR0ss | pl9308: its xorg.conf not xorg.config |
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| 13:16.11 | Th0masR0ss | !tell pl9308 about xorg.conf |
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| 13:16.41 | pl9308 | as the RIP software only has 1 license i want that multiple vnc clients can access the computer having the same session on the same user account, seeing the same thing |
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| 13:19.18 | Owner | pl9308, x11vnc |
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| 13:30.30 | KaffeeJunky123 | Hello there, how do you get an upstream bugfix patch into debian stable? |
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| 13:32.59 | KaffeeJunky123 | This rhythmbox commit https://git.gnome.org/browse/rhythmbox/commit/?id=98e5a25b3c32c9915357968a78783c1ac21c7130 fixes an annoying bug with pausing cd playback, it applies without any issues to the 2.97 version which is in debian stable now, if someone could merge it it would close http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681374 |
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| 13:39.19 | mrdeb | hi |
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| 13:51.14 | joshuahh | hello, i am trying to get my Highpoint 2710 RAID card to be detected, i have rr272x_1x.ko, but i dont know how to load it... |
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| 13:56.00 | KaffeeJunky123 | joshuahh: did you try to modprobe it? |
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| 14:03.14 | joshuahh | agh keep getting d/c |
| 14:03.56 | joshuahh | so the issue is, i have a highpoint 2710, but the installer detects my raid1 drives as 2x seperate ssd drives |
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| 14:24.05 | KaffeeJunky123 | joshuahh: maybe you should consult the manual for your RAID device |
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| 14:32.27 | jesuse | hey guys |
| 14:32.30 | jesuse | good morning |
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| 14:39.18 | Azrael_- | look at the official upgrading-documentation |
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| 14:47.48 | EstebanMonge | hello, some know if it is possible to use ZFS zones in Debian? |
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| 14:56.52 | danharibo | hmm, trying to install wine 1.5 and I've hit some kind of dependancy issue |
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| 14:58.38 | danharibo | https://gist.github.com/danharibo/df3fb22f5236cfa6c739 I get this while trying to install ia32-libs |
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| 15:02.54 | KaffeeJunky123 | danharibo: how did you try to install wine and what's your arch? |
| 15:03.29 | danharibo | amd64, currently trying to install all libwine-* packages from here http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ |
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| 15:07.54 | KaffeeJunky123 | danharibo: those packages are built for debian sid, if you want to use it on stable you'll have to build it from source yourself |
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| 15:08.26 | KaffeeJunky123 | assuming you're using stable since this is the channel for stable |
| 15:08.37 | danharibo | Which channel is for testing? |
| 15:09.27 | KaffeeJunky123 | #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 15:12.23 | abrotman | this channel is okay for testing/unstable |
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| 15:14.20 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: really? when I asked about them I was directed at debian-next |
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| 15:15.15 | abrotman | KaffeeJunky123: i'm sorry you were given incorrect information |
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| 15:16.00 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: happens, this is IRC anyone can come here and tell anything. |
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| 15:16.53 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: by the way, do you know if there's a possibility of getting a bugfix for a normal upstream bug into stable? |
| 15:17.08 | abrotman | KaffeeJunky123: is it a critical bug? |
| 15:17.34 | KaffeeJunky123 | Rhythmbox is incapable of resuming CD playback from pause, so for some people it might be critical |
| 15:17.53 | KaffeeJunky123 | especially since it's the default media player with the gnome desktop |
| 15:18.01 | KaffeeJunky123 | *music |
| 15:18.15 | abrotman | is there a bug in the Debian bts already? |
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| 15:18.37 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: yes it is, wait a second |
| 15:18.52 | abrotman | KaffeeJunky123: have you submitted a patch? |
| 15:19.31 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: nope, but it is in the upstream and the git commit was noted in the bugtracker already |
| 15:19.55 | KaffeeJunky123 | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681374 |
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| 15:20.58 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: here's the upstream patch https://git.gnome.org/browse/rhythmbox/patch/?id=98e5a25b3c32c9915357968a78783c1ac21c7130 and it applies to the debian rhythembox version without any notable issues and fixes the bug. |
| 15:21.30 | abrotman | it says it's Normal, but you could append the bug and as for it to be patched for stable for a point release |
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| 15:24.13 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: is there any doc on how this is supposed to be done? I never really used the bugtracker and don't know how to use it at all. |
| 15:25.07 | KaffeeJunky123 | abrotman: I'll have a look at what I can find on bugs.debian.org |
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| 15:28.55 | abrotman | KaffeeJunky123: bugs.debian.org has a some notes about submitting bugs, etc |
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| 15:59.56 | biduzido | Hi! I'm using Wheezy and configuring my firewall through GUFW and even when I allow all connection, a lot of programs are having trouble binding to TCP ports. Mostly programming software, like Eclipse, Python IDLE and DreamPie. Did anyone else experienced this as well |
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| 16:01.55 | michu | anyone know how to queue torrent files with transmission ? |
| 16:04.54 | DNS | still you can only manually pause them |
| 16:05.02 | DNS | michu but you could use scripts |
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| 16:05.26 | DNS | see https://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8025 |
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| 16:07.27 | michu | DNS: ah that sucks :/ seems like a basic feature to have |
| 16:07.29 | michu | thanks |
| 16:07.29 | Frank81 | hi i have problems with setting env vars i think i edited ~/.bash_profile and added some export lines to it but when i do for example echo $ENV_NAME or LS $env_name since it has as value a directory simply don't work sure i executed the bash_profile file after i edited it |
| 16:07.55 | Frank81 | what can i do to find out whats wrong? |
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| 16:13.29 | Frank81 | ah was i don't got right interpreter in bash profile ^^ #!/bin/bash thx for info i don't got :D |
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| 16:14.59 | DNS | michu btw i think heres a #transmission channel as well |
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| 16:17.58 | bikeshedder | ist there an "apt-get install" syntax to say "install package X with version>=A.B.C" ? |
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| 16:18.20 | bikeshedder | I'd like to install packages from wheezy-backports without having to specify the concrete version |
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| 16:29.10 | desmond | Hello. I just installed debian using the net installation cd and I'm having trouble connecting to the internet |
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| 16:29.58 | desmond | Wireless was working fine when I was booted into the installation CD, and the wizard set everything up. But after booting into my newly installed system I can't seem to get internet to work, ethernet or wireless |
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| 16:33.15 | desmond | Why did wireless work perfectly in the installation medium but doesn't work afterwards? |
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| 16:41.43 | ompaul | !firmware |
| 16:41.43 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 16:41.59 | ompaul | desmond: ^^ read that there |
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| 17:10.53 | Mathisen | my system has faild to boot 2 - 3 times now im trying to find a log file for the startup where can i find it ? |
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| 17:12.33 | Rocco | hello |
| 17:13.08 | Rocco | why cant install grub in debian 7, crunchbang same problem |
| 17:13.18 | Rocco | :P |
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| 17:14.39 | epsilon | Rocco: error message? |
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| 17:15.06 | Rocco | only says that cant install grub |
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| 17:16.01 | epsilon | something in shell output or error logs? |
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| 17:16.28 | Rocco | lilo gives me same error |
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| 17:17.05 | epsilon | dude, that like "my car doesnt move, how do i fix it" |
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| 17:17.34 | Rocco | sorry man im very noob |
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| 17:18.45 | fenris_mid | hy. i can't get my xserver running with the free ati/radeon-driver. do i have to to add more things to the xorg.conf than the "Device"-Section? |
| 17:19.20 | fenris_mid | i would post the error-message, but that will take a while ... |
| 17:20.06 | zykotick9 | fenris_mid: i know this is annoying, and a bit picky - but please don't call the ATI driver "free", it isn't. It's Open Source, but requires non-free binaries for 3d, and thus isn't "free as in freedom". |
| 17:20.39 | Rocco | free software 4life |
| 17:20.46 | fenris_mid | zykotick9: yes, sry |
| 17:20.59 | fenris_mid | the open driver is it then |
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| 17:21.40 | fenris_mid | zykotick9: so do you have a clue for me? |
| 17:22.08 | zykotick9 | fenris_mid: sorry i don't. i avoid ati, due to the reason i just stated. |
| 17:22.09 | mumpitze1 | fenris_mid: you don't have to add _anything_ in your xorg.conf. you don't need a xorg.conf at all |
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| 17:22.27 | fenris_mid | mumpitze1: that's what i tried at first |
| 17:22.35 | fenris_mid | but it didn't work either |
| 17:22.36 | mumpitze1 | fenris_mid:the error message is usually not important. but why can't you paste it? |
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| 17:22.51 | fenris_mid | mumpitze1: just cli now |
| 17:22.55 | fenris_mid | wait ... |
| 17:23.00 | mumpitze1 | and? what prevents you from pasting from cli? |
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| 17:24.04 | mumpitze1 | !tell fenris_mid about pastebinit |
| 17:24.14 | mumpitze1 | fenris_mid: and pastebin your Xorg.0.log please |
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| 17:24.41 | Rust3dCor3 | hi! im a newbie here. What is dhe difference between normal install and hdmedia install? |
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| 17:25.57 | Robert_L_ | I moved an HDD w/32 bit wheezy to a 64 bit system. I'm considering an in place upgrade to squeeze (did several, no drama). Is there any real advantage to doing a fresh-installl of amd64, or should I just stick with i386? |
| 17:25.59 | mumpitze1 | Rust3dCor3: different installer. whatever installer you use, it's always the same debian you end up with. how are you trying to install? |
| 17:26.12 | Rust3dCor3 | by netinstall |
| 17:26.20 | mumpitze1 | Rust3dCor3: how much RAM does the 64bit system have installed? |
| 17:26.33 | Rust3dCor3 | im using normal old 32 bit system |
| 17:26.35 | mumpitze1 | Rust3dCor3: are you using usb, CD, pxe? what? |
| 17:26.38 | Rust3dCor3 | usb |
| 17:26.54 | mumpitze1 | Rust3dCor3: then get a netinst ISO and use it as described in the install guide /msg dpkg ig |
| 17:26.54 | Rust3dCor3 | im just curious.. i must do a freshinstall of testing |
| 17:27.01 | Rust3dCor3 | ok |
| 17:27.19 | Robert_L | mumpitze1 it's only got 8gb, and it's a PCs masquarading as a home "server", not under any serious load |
| 17:27.25 | mumpitze1 | Rust3dCor3: don't use a testing installer. use a normal wheezy installer |
| 17:27.34 | Rust3dCor3 | but i want testing |
| 17:27.49 | fenris_mid | mumpitze1: http://pastebin.com/pU0bfzSZ |
| 17:27.49 | Robert_L | the 32bit bigmem kernel will handle 8gb right? |
| 17:28.17 | mumpitze1 | Rust3dCor3: for 8GB you want amd64 usually. and you need to reinstall your debian. if you don't want that you can run a amd64 kernel on your i386 debian too if you want. |
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| 17:29.04 | Rust3dCor3 | 8gb of what? ram? hdd space? |
| 17:29.15 | mumpitze1 | !pastebin |
| 17:29.16 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 17:29.31 | mumpitze1 | Rust3dCor3: i specificially asked for the amount of RAM, didn't I? |
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| 17:29.44 | mumpitze1 | !tell fenris_mid about pastebin.com |
| 17:29.45 | Rust3dCor3 | oh.. |
| 17:29.47 | Rust3dCor3 | i have 2 gb |
| 17:29.55 | mumpitze1 | Rust3dCor3: then stay with i386 |
| 17:29.58 | Rust3dCor3 | ok |
| 17:30.01 | Rust3dCor3 | ty |
| 17:30.18 | Robert_L | mumpitze1, so I can run the 64 bit kernel but the 32bit userland? On my 64bit VPS systems I've only ever seen the amd64 kernel meta package... |
| 17:31.06 | mumpitze1 | Robert_L: yes you can. but VPS is different, usually you have no kernel there |
| 17:31.30 | fenris_mid | mumpitze1: http://wh17.tu-dresden.de/~fenris/misc/Xorg.0.log |
| 17:31.39 | fenris_mid | (fu pastebin) |
| 17:32.35 | Robert_L | mumpitze1, I think I mixed up VPS and VM, I do have 1 VPS in the cloud which is 64bit and some 64bit vmware guests (where I have installed a kernel). Basically I'm going to just go for it, and if all the RAM is available then I'll consider it a wrap |
| 17:32.39 | Robert_L | I don't really want to re-install :) |
| 17:33.39 | mumpitze1 | fenris_mid: you have segfault in your libglx it seems. did you install the ati firmware? |
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| 17:34.02 | fenris_mid | mumpitze1: yes, but i uninstalled it |
| 17:34.10 | fenris_mid | at least i thiught i have |
| 17:34.19 | fenris_mid | *thought |
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| 17:34.59 | mumpitze1 | fenris_mid: you had ati prorpietary drivers installed before? |
| 17:35.05 | fenris_mid | yes |
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| 17:35.26 | mumpitze1 | then most probably it's not actually removed as well as it needs to be |
| 17:35.52 | fenris_mid | hast du eine Idee wie ich es restlos entferne? |
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| 17:36.23 | fenris_mid | ./überschreibe |
| 17:36.25 | mumpitze1 | and firmware is NOT a driver. i was talking about firmware from firmware-linux-nonfree, not about a fglrx driver |
| 17:36.47 | mumpitze1 | no I don't. there is a reason you should use the (non-free) fglrx to install fglrx drivers |
| 17:37.05 | mumpitze1 | maybe debsums tells you which files are bad? |
| 17:37.06 | fenris_mid | firmware-linux-nonfree ist installiert |
| 17:37.08 | babilen | fenris_mid: Sprechen Sie Englisch oder Sie werden fürchterliche Qualen erleiden! |
| 17:37.18 | mumpitze1 | !tell fenris_mid about debsums |
| 17:37.26 | fenris_mid | babilen: why? |
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| 18:06.15 | fenris_mid | still not working ... hmm, i don't understand why kms works but the xserver not |
| 18:07.03 | fenris_mid | could it help the reinstall the kernel? |
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| 18:07.35 | fenris_mid | (hoping that this might trigger the necessary actions) |
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| 18:10.35 | babilen | fenris_mid: Well, this is the English channel. If you prefer to chat in German #debian.de would be the right place |
| 18:11.03 | fenris_mid | so there is no #debian.en? |
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| 18:11.51 | ompaul | fenris_mid: no this is the "default" and english is what is spoken here |
| 18:12.06 | ompaul | other languages get support in their own space |
| 18:12.07 | fenris_mid | topic doesn't say so |
| 18:12.13 | ompaul | doesn't need to |
| 18:12.20 | ompaul | you are proof of that |
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| 18:12.29 | fenris_mid | ompaul: ? |
| 18:12.32 | ompaul | had you opened up in German |
| 18:12.39 | ompaul | someone would have done |
| 18:12.41 | ompaul | !de |
| 18:12.41 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 18:13.05 | ompaul | defaults not always sensible, but always there |
| 18:13.29 | fenris_mid | so using other languages than English is generally not allowed here? |
| 18:14.25 | ompaul | Sie sind richtig. |
| 18:14.59 | ompaul | and that's the end of the lesson, if you want to be social chat in #debian-offtopic where we try to keep it somewhat friendly but here it's support |
| 18:15.05 | ompaul | it works - has done for years |
| 18:15.45 | fenris_mid | a pity, but anyway, i'm not here to discuss this subject now |
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| 18:16.23 | fenris_mid | do you got a clue what i can do to make my x work? |
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| 18:18.03 | ompaul | I looked back |
| 18:18.46 | ompaul | fenris_mid: are you trying to run the non free drivers? |
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| 18:19.03 | fenris_mid | ompaul: i was told there are no "non-free" ones |
| 18:19.12 | fenris_mid | i try with ati open |
| 18:19.19 | ompaul | !ati |
| 18:19.19 | dpkg | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
| 18:19.20 | fenris_mid | eh, sry |
| 18:19.34 | ompaul | so msg the bot the words in <> |
| 18:19.42 | fenris_mid | i meant no "free" ones |
| 18:19.51 | fenris_mid | k, i'll try; thx |
| 18:20.05 | ompaul | ok - I'm off to drive to the coast |
| 18:20.12 | ompaul | too nice an evening |
| 18:20.12 | fenris_mid | have fun |
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| 18:21.49 | fenris_mid | gnaaa, the bot doesn't tell me anymore that what's written in the wiki |
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| 18:22.10 | ompaul | you have to read the wiki |
| 18:22.32 | fenris_mid | i did |
| 18:22.35 | ompaul | wonders why people don't understand the world is not how they'd like it to be, it is how it is, bend with the breeze and love it :) |
| 18:22.44 | ompaul | gone away now :) |
| 18:22.50 | fenris_mid | yes, plz |
| 18:23.38 | fenris_mid | "you have to read the wiki" - if i hadn't how else could i have known that the bot tells the same? damn ... |
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| 18:30.59 | bikeshedder | is there a syntax available to install a package version ">" than a given version number? In my case I want to install initramfs-tools>0.110 from debian-backports, but I do not want to specify the exact version number as this is part of a script and I don't want it to break if a newer version becomes available |
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| 18:31.33 | bikeshedder | alternatively it would also be nice if there was a way to ignore the package priorities for this package so the version from wheezy-backports is used |
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| 18:35.12 | bikeshedder | oh my... apt-get -t wheezy-backports did the trick. |
| 18:35.18 | RustyShackleford | when I installed debian, I didn't realize that I could pass an empty password to root and have sudo automatically setup |
| 18:35.46 | RustyShackleford | can i disable the root account/password? |
| 18:35.53 | RustyShackleford | now that i've setup sudo? |
| 18:36.58 | bikeshedder | RustyShackleford, passwd -l root ... see "man passwd" |
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| 18:38.20 | RustyShackleford | bikeshedder, perfect. Will I be able to su after this? |
| 18:38.45 | RustyShackleford | not that I need to, just wondering |
| 18:38.53 | bikeshedder | RustyShackleford, no, su will not be possible anymore as the root user doesn't have a valid password anymore. |
| 18:39.25 | bikeshedder | RustyShackleford, unless you configure some custom PAM module of course, this is an entirely different topic. |
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| 18:42.00 | RustyShackleford | beautiful. thanks again bikeshedder |
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| 18:46.04 | brontosaurusrex | whats the amount of breakage expected if upgrading libc6 from sid? (using wheezy) |
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| 18:52.05 | fenris_mid | if somebody cares: reinstalling xserver-xorg-core solved my problem. thx anyway. |
| 18:52.16 | fenris_mid | ... just a humble wish of mine: please get a little bit more openminded towards other languages |
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| 18:55.06 | vectory | reading http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html#mounting ... can i turn off autostart after mount in gnome3, if its turned on anyway? |
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| 19:01.12 | loin | hi guys, can anyone please help me mount a nfs? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5895010/ |
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| 19:02.26 | nvz | loin: two tips.. use debian... use paste.debian.net |
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| 19:03.07 | nvz | I'd have to copy and paste that to even read it.. cause its using some kinda irrational syntax highlighting that makes it impossible for my brain's parser to understand it |
| 19:03.08 | loin | nvz, i did not know about debian pastie, thank you |
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| 19:04.09 | nvz | and since the pastebin sucks I can't just view it as plain text without downloading it |
| 19:04.32 | loin | you're right nvz |
| 19:04.35 | loin | i'm sorry |
| 19:05.14 | nvz | everything ubuntu wants you to sign up to use it.. its ridiculous |
| 19:05.30 | loin | :) |
| 19:05.38 | loin | i only used paste.ubuntu.com because it's ad free |
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| 19:06.08 | Owner | eid |
| 19:07.14 | loin | nvz, i think i found the problem |
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| 19:07.52 | loin | nvz it's the DN/IP Filter settings on the nas server |
| 19:08.57 | nvz | yeah its obviously a server side problem.. aside from being user error.. which is evident by the badly highlighted paste on an ubuntu branded site that requires signup to even view the message without the braindead highlighting |
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| 19:27.23 | Owner | running full debian testing is ncie |
| 19:27.34 | Owner | at the moment |
| 19:28.19 | Owner | :) |
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| 19:35.18 | jhutchins | Interesting, xterm on this thinkpad doesn't send the standard keycodes for alt+# that allow switching windows in irssi. |
| 19:35.38 | jhutchins | Alt+2 sends ² |
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| 19:38.12 | nvz | indeed.. hmm |
| 19:38.20 | nvz | luckily I normally don't use xterm |
| 19:38.46 | nvz | though as I recally Esc+2 does the same thing in irssi |
| 19:38.48 | jhutchins | nvz: Seems to be the default for xfce |
| 19:39.00 | tuxcrafter | i need to test this patch on my debian kernel |
| 19:39.05 | jhutchins | So it does, thank you. |
| 19:39.05 | tuxcrafter | http://sprunge.us/ZYHX?diff |
| 19:39.15 | tuxcrafter | im reading http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage |
| 19:39.20 | tuxcrafter | Use quilt to add your patch |
| 19:39.27 | tuxcrafter | how do i use quilt to add the patch? |
| 19:39.43 | jhutchins | Trackpad on my Acer One went nuts, started sending random moves and clicks. |
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| 19:41.01 | nvz | yeah well Acer is crap.. |
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| 19:41.15 | tuxcrafter | lenovo thinkpad aint better i guess |
| 19:41.32 | jhutchins | It's served me pretty well, probably three or four years at least. |
| 19:41.33 | tuxcrafter | bought a t430u and i cant even connect two screens over hdmi and dp |
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| 19:41.52 | jhutchins | The texture on the trackpad is all worn smooth. |
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| 19:44.42 | digdilem | possibly some liquid got in? if not, and genuinely is worn through, you should be able to get a replacement part off ebay |
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| 19:45.01 | digdilem | or get a plug in trackpad/mouse/trackball |
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| 19:48.11 | jhutchins | digdilem: Yeah, might do the add-on, the trackpad is a part of the keyboard bezel - have to replace that. |
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| 20:10.09 | aqueous | does apt have any way of installing hooks so that programs can get notified, for instance, when a package is installed in the system? |
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| 20:14.52 | dD | Why won't alt shift tab work in debian if it's configured like that? |
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| 20:17.41 | nkuttler | aqueous: look how apt-listbugs works? |
| 20:17.53 | nkuttler | or apt-listchanges |
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| 20:23.10 | aqueous | indeed |
| 20:23.50 | aqueous | it looks like apt has Dpkg::Pre-Invoke {"command";}; in apt.conf |
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| 20:24.06 | aqueous | thanks very much |
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| 20:25.28 | aqueous | does apt have a lock of its own or does it just use dpkg's lock to make sure no other installation can run? |
| 20:26.13 | entitativity | I just installed wheezy on an old x60 lenovo thinkpad. it comes with a base station that has extra ports and a CD drive. When I put the laptop on the base, it forgets my ethernet connection. Any ideas? |
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| 20:30.01 | leviathann | hi all! I'm trying to install curse of war, however they don't seem to have a deb package? https://github.com/a-nikolaev/curseofwar/wiki |
| 20:30.13 | leviathann | I'm on crunchbang, btw |
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| 20:42.06 | Owner | entitativity, use the ethernet connection on the base station |
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| 20:42.20 | Owner | have both wired in |
| 20:42.26 | Owner | and maybe it will switch seamlessly |
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| 20:49.29 | alusion | how do I remove SELinux? |
| 20:49.46 | jhutchins | dD: in what application on debian? WHat do you expect it to do? |
| 20:50.13 | jhutchins | alusion: Why not just disable it? |
| 20:50.25 | entitativity | Owner fixed it! thanks friend |
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| 20:56.42 | alusion | with Grsec |
| 20:57.32 | dD | jhutchins, gnomewm, I expect it to do reverse alt tab (reverse window switch) |
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| 21:03.08 | Seegee | Does anyone know Joobz |
| 21:03.12 | Seegee | Or someone with the name like that? |
| 21:05.35 | truexfan81 | been awhile since i messed with this, can someone please remind me what the samba service is called on wheezy/jessie? i need to restart it |
| 21:06.26 | truexfan81 | i tried the obvious ones, samba, smbd, says unrecognized service |
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| 21:09.21 | axisys | is there a mysql 5.0.75 debian package? I am still looking and so far no avail |
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| 21:10.50 | ompaul | ,version mysql5 |
| 21:10.51 | judd | No package named 'mysql5' was found in i386. |
| 21:10.55 | ompaul | ,version mysql5-server |
| 21:10.56 | judd | No package named 'mysql5-server' was found in i386. |
| 21:11.30 | ompaul | ,version mysql-server |
| 21:11.31 | judd | Package: mysql-server on i386 -- squeeze: 5.1.49-3; squeeze-security: 5.1.66-0+squeeze1; wheezy: 5.5.31+dfsg-0+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 5.5.31+dfsg-0+wheezy1; jessie: 5.5.31+dfsg-1; sid: 5.5.31+dfsg-1 |
| 21:12.06 | ompaul | axisys: so its beyond old stable in the land that time forgot search the net for the following lenny debian archive |
| 21:12.34 | ompaul | axisys: it may or may not help but it's not a debian issue even old stable is on 5.1 |
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| 21:16.38 | axisys | ompaul: gotcha |
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| 21:17.41 | toad_ | all my not installed and new packages are listed as local ... did 7.1 create a new key? |
| 21:17.48 | toad_ | and how can i get it securely? |
| 21:18.00 | toad_ | errr i mean are listed as untrusted |
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| 21:22.07 | dD | jhutchins, any clue? |
| 21:22.15 | toad_ | okay, that was odd, it's cleared now ... |
| 21:22.43 | toad_ | i'm sure i updated before and it didn't clear it ... updated again and it cleared |
| 21:23.16 | toad_ | using ftp.uk and ftp.fr |
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| 21:23.53 | axisys | judd: how would I install mysql-server package 5.1 on wheezy ? |
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| 21:26.43 | axisys | judd: I guess just download the deb package and install ? |
| 21:26.46 | judd | No package named 'guess' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 21:27.22 | axisys | ompaul: ^ |
| 21:27.35 | Owner | apt-cache search guess |
| 21:27.42 | axisys | was talking to bot all this time hehe |
| 21:27.49 | toad_ | WTF, it's showing up as untrusted source again ... is aptitude broken? |
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| 21:27.58 | axisys | how would I install mysql-server package 5.1 on wheezy ? |
| 21:28.26 | toad_ | and i didn't update :( |
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| 21:33.51 | pingfloyd | there also call blocker |
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| 21:37.05 | ompaul | toad_: if it was how full of people saying is it broken would this channel be? |
| 21:37.37 | toad_ | ompaul: right, so it must be a local problem |
| 21:38.28 | toad_ | now it goes away again ... past experience suggests it will come back |
| 21:39.03 | toad_ | "on matthew's computer, and no other in the whole world, aptitude periodically decides that all non-installed packages are untrustworthy" :| |
| 21:39.17 | ompaul | you have the debian-archive-keyring installed ? and its friends as needed apt-cache search debian | grep key |
| 21:39.20 | toad_ | this is cleared by apt-get update ... sometimes |
| 21:39.47 | ompaul | toad_: so then look at matthews repos and wonder why them |
| 21:39.50 | ompaul | and move on |
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| 21:40.05 | ompaul | use another one |
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| 21:40.23 | ontheroadagain | http://www.twitch.tv/lolkevv |
| 21:40.26 | ontheroadagain | watch my friend please :) |
| 21:40.36 | ompaul | !ops spammer ontheroadagain |
| 21:40.37 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ompaul complains about: spammer ontheroadagain |
| 21:40.53 | toad_ | ompaul: yes, i just installed the keyrings for ports and mozilla |
| 21:40.57 | ontheroadagain | dwi ompaul |
| 21:41.01 | ompaul | thinks you'd know it was saturday |
| 21:41.02 | ontheroadagain | nigger faggot |
| 21:41.32 | ompaul | oh lovely a racist homophobic idiot |
| 21:41.45 | toad_ | ompaul: my repo's are standard - i have ftp.uk, ftp.fr, security, the replacement for volatile, and deb-multimedia (but the packages affected were not deb-multimedia packages) |
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| 21:42.02 | ontheroadagain | dwi ompaul |
| 21:42.05 | ompaul | toad_: do uk or fr |
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| 21:42.25 | ompaul | toad_: don't do both they won't update at the same time |
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| 21:42.50 | ontheroadagain | ubuntu sucks |
| 21:42.54 | ontheroadagain | download update and it bricks your computer |
| 21:42.57 | toad_ | ompaul: thanks |
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| 21:43.45 | ompaul | toad_: np, I'd guess that was the cause of problems |
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| 21:44.00 | toad_ | ompaul: hope so, it's working atm |
| 21:44.06 | toad_ | will come back if it happens again |
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| 21:44.32 | ompaul | !next |
| 21:44.32 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 22:15.52 | Arrowmaster | how can this be considered resolved? theres no details of how to fix it http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=716807 |
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| 22:19.42 | Konomi | Arrowmaster: it was a duplicate the bug was already reported link: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=674467 |
| 22:20.54 | Konomi | and there it isn't resolved |
| 22:21.16 | Arrowmaster | would be nice to reference the bug its a duplicate of instead of just marking it as resolved |
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| 22:21.38 | Konomi | wouldn't hurt but it's pretty easy to check the bug page and find the other one |
| 22:21.56 | Arrowmaster | yeah im having to hold back some jack updates and trying to find out what to hold back for packagekit so i can upgrade my jessie install |
| 22:22.08 | Arrowmaster | there was only one bug listed on libopus0 |
| 22:22.31 | Konomi | the other was on the src:opus page |
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| 22:24.45 | hesco | This is preventing me from getting the puppet catalogue for this node. Seeking help with a a FQDN issue on Debian as explained here: https://gist.github.com/hesco/27c86d92969fd29520cf |
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| 22:49.01 | james41382 | I am trying to upgrade the Wheezy kernel via the Backports repo and am having a bit of difficulty. |
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| 23:09.38 | roger25 | can i know the number of boot of my debian? |
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| 23:12.19 | Coweater | you could make an init script that increments a counter in a file everytime it boots |
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| 23:12.41 | juan` | Greetings! |
| 23:12.52 | Coweater | if you haven't booted that much the mount count would be an indicator, but it resets once fsck has been run automatically |
| 23:13.34 | Coweater | tune2fs -l /dev/hda1|grep -i mount |
| 23:13.44 | juan` | I was reading some C code and found something like this in a comment: "$Id: .... $". What does it mean? |
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| 23:19.00 | mesoderm | I am trying to get an HP Laserjet 4+ to work with Wheezy ... I have hp-lip installed, and the printer is showing up in the list of devices, but every time I try to print a test page, I get the error "W2 Invalid Pers" |
| 23:20.24 | mesoderm | I have run hp-setup and selected what I think is the right PPD (hp-laserjet-4-plus-ps.ppd |
| 23:20.33 | hesco | ompaul: thanks for that. Just set up an A record and now waiting for it to propagate before testing again. |
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| 23:21.26 | Coweater | mesoderm: select the pcl driver, ps is for the 'M' model |
| 23:22.09 | Coweater | hopefully that makes sense for debian, just going off some forum posts that say postscript isn't supported |
| 23:22.35 | mesoderm | Coweater: Thanks -- I'll try to do that. One sec |
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| 23:25.26 | mesoderm | Coweater: That worked! Thanks! :) |
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| 23:32.37 | james41382 | Okay I successfully upgraded the kernel via the backports repo, but I am not sure how to upgrade the proper drivers. I saved the message during the upgrade and I can see that the older drivers are still installed. |
| 23:32.50 | james41382 | Do I uninstall the old driver packages and install new ones? |
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| 23:45.27 | georgij | Hi, is there someone experienced with using Postfix? |
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| 23:54.15 | hesco | georgj: in some ways. The practice is generally to ask your question about postfix and if anyone can answer they will. But you might get better results at #postfix than here. Although I can help with some simple postfix questions. |
| 23:55.29 | cITs | georgij: define experienced? just ask and we'll see how far we get |
| 23:56.49 | georgij | cITs: Oh sorry, Hmmm… I am having some problems with Postfix server. Everything seems to work locally on the server and even remotly when using telnet or netcat with courier-pop3, smtp, courier-imap. However what I want to achieve is to receive emails from for instance gmail or hotmail. |
| 23:58.02 | cITs | georgij: not sure if you can configure a redirect to your personal server |
| 23:58.24 | georgij | cITs: I paid for a DNS pointing to the server. Entered a random MX record: whereas the domain is example.com, I named the MX record mail.example.com |
| 23:58.31 | cITs | in some way or another it should work but i have never done such a thing, because i believe that every other mail service that i don't run myself is evil |
| 23:59.25 | georgij | cITs: oh ok, thanks anyway :D |
| 23:59.35 | cITs | well ... i wasn't really helpful |
| 23:59.39 | cITs | not a bit |
| 23:59.55 | georgij | cITs: well you are right they are evil at least :P |