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| 00:04.58 | anon411 | it seems that it also can't deliver local messages(same error) |
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| 00:13.30 | abrotman | anon411: can you pastebin the logs somewhere? |
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| 00:13.58 | anon411 | mail.log: http://pastebin.com/zR9Fihzb |
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| 00:16.54 | abrotman | anon411: it does give you a warning? |
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| 00:17.17 | abrotman | anon411: anything in your dovecot logs? |
| 00:17.21 | anon411 | that warning what you can see in log |
| 00:17.25 | anon411 | nothing interesting in dovecot |
| 00:17.43 | jharri34 | hello all, every time i open libreoffice my computer becomes inoperable everything on screen freezes but the mouse and i cant even ctrl alt f1 to even try to debug the problem can anyone help me out its the only way i can read my assignment for class |
| 00:18.36 | abrotman | anon411: i'd attempt to increase the verbosity of logging on both sides |
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| 00:20.45 | anon411 | abrotman: there are imap auth failed warnings, ( i haven't increased verbosity yet ) |
| 00:21.13 | abrotman | sounds like that's from your client though |
| 00:21.38 | anon411 | roundcube. but it login and everything |
| 00:21.48 | jharri34 | my computer has 8gbs of ram, i7 quadcore process , dual solid state drives and nvidia 555m graphics card i cant for the life of figure out how libreoffice could bring it all down |
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| 00:22.16 | abrotman | jharri34: which java are you using? |
| 00:22.49 | jharri34 | OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.12.5) (6b27-1.12.5-1) |
| 00:22.50 | jharri34 | OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 20.0-b12, mixed mode) |
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| 00:25.33 | abrotman | wheezy? |
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| 00:25.49 | abrotman | anon411: are you increasing verbosity? |
| 00:25.51 | eax | :> |
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| 00:26.07 | jharri34 | abrotman:yes wheezy stable |
| 00:26.22 | anon411 | dovecot - still nothing interesting. i'm looking for postfix verbosity now |
| 00:26.23 | abrotman | jharri34: weird you're using java6 .. |
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| 00:26.43 | abrotman | jharri34: i'd imagine it should be on java7 .. I could be mistaken |
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| 00:26.56 | themill | openjdk-6 is the default java in wheezy |
| 00:27.06 | themill | (openjdk-7 is also available) |
| 00:27.06 | jharri34 | abrotman: it just came with the distro and hasn't updated yet |
| 00:27.12 | abrotman | themill: ah okay |
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| 00:28.38 | jharri34 | abrotman: i can apt-get java7 if its available |
| 00:29.06 | abrotman | jharri34: themill says it shouldn't be necessary, but it is osmething you could try |
| 00:30.12 | jharri34 | abrotman: themill: updating now |
| 00:30.37 | themill | openjdk-7 is a vast improvement on openjdk-6 but that shouldn't be an issue here with libreoffice |
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| 00:31.04 | freeminds | when lsof is returning 0x0000000000000000 as device, does that mean that fd has been closed? |
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| 00:33.43 | jharri34 | themill:abrotman: didn't help just crashed again |
| 00:33.45 | jhutchins | Doesn't OO imbed a complete java environment? |
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| 00:34.12 | abrotman | jhutchins: that's an option for windows, not sure about linux |
| 00:34.23 | abrotman | jharri34: and the system is unusable? |
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| 00:35.54 | jharri34 | abrotman: when i say unusable i mean that the screen completely locks up with the exception of the mouse |
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| 00:40.24 | themill | Locking up like that sounds more like an X issue than a libreoffice or java issue. |
| 00:40.41 | abrotman | jharri34: do any other apps cause a lockup? |
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| 00:41.54 | jharri34 | themill: abrotman:no other application cause the error to appear and how would i troubleshoot a x issue? |
| 00:42.12 | abrotman | jharri34: try another X driver, load another Java app |
| 00:43.33 | jharri34 | abrotman: i've loaded eclipse just fine with crashing |
| 00:44.39 | eax | 1 |
| 00:45.18 | jharri34 | abrotman: i not sure what you mean by "try another X driver" |
| 00:46.29 | abrotman | jharri34: you're using the nvidia binary driver, can you try nouveau or vesa? (just to eliminate that as the problem) |
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| 00:49.33 | jharri34 | abrotman: im currently using the nouveau driver i had issue with switching to the nvidia driver in the pass could you walk me through the process or point me to a tutorial? |
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| 00:50.32 | abrotman | jharri34: do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
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| 00:53.00 | jharri34 | abrotman: no i do not only thing in /etc/X11 are xinit/ xkb/ |
| 00:53.17 | abrotman | which nvidia card do yo uhave? |
| 00:53.42 | jharri34 | nividia 555m model |
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| 00:54.54 | abrotman | now let's find someone that knows if the nvidia binary stuff in wheezy supports that :) |
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| 00:56.06 | abrotman | jharri34: lspci -nn | grep VGA ; what is the PCIID at the end of the line? |
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| 00:59.18 | jharri34 | jharri34@W150HRQ:~$ lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 00:59.18 | jharri34 | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09) |
| 00:59.18 | jharri34 | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF106 [GeForce GT 555M] [10de:0dce] (rev a1) |
| 00:59.39 | relipse | is debian 6.0.7 wheezy? |
| 00:59.54 | abrotman | relipse: no |
| 01:00.06 | relipse | what is it? |
| 01:00.08 | abrotman | jharri34: oh, you have the optimus stuff? |
| 01:00.17 | abrotman | relipse: 6.x is squeeze, wheezy is 7.x |
| 01:00.29 | relipse | it is easy to upgrade to wheezy? |
| 01:00.32 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jharri34 about nvidia dkms |
| 01:00.44 | abrotman | dpkg: tell relipse about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 01:01.59 | jharri34 | abrotman dkms? give me a moment to google that |
| 01:02.29 | abrotman | jharri34: seee what the bot told you |
| 01:03.06 | abrotman | jharri34: but i'm not 100% sure how that works with optimus |
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| 01:03.52 | Matthew98 | Hi |
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| 01:04.16 | zykotick9 | abrotman: safe thing is to avoid with 30 foot pole. "lspci -v" is required to see both cards in output ;) |
| 01:04.50 | abrotman | zykotick9: se eabove |
| 01:05.28 | zykotick9 | abrotman: actually i'm surprise -nn gives it as well... my bad. |
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| 01:07.07 | jharri34 | abrotman: ah! i see i didn't know that was a feature of irc cool i have to change location but will be back shortly is there way we can continue this conversation when i return? |
| 01:07.08 | zykotick9 | abrotman: personally, i'd ask for "lspci -v | grep -i vga" myself... but your method certainly seems to work! |
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| 01:13.06 | abrotman | zykotick9: go fo rit .. |
| 01:13.16 | abrotman | jharri34: i may not be here, but someone will be |
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| 01:26.24 | reavengrey | the day I learned about CTL-Z/fg/bg |
| 01:26.34 | reavengrey | I became more than a man ;_; |
| 01:26.54 | reavengrey | the day I learn what "screen" does I'll probably become a legend |
| 01:26.57 | reavengrey | but zzz w/e lol |
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| 01:49.40 | greyeax | how can i get debian installed on zfs? i wanna install the debian-zfs package but there doesn't seem to be a way to do it from the install disk |
| 01:50.26 | greyeax | i tried using the shell but neither aptitude nor apt-get seem to be availabler |
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| 01:50.40 | greyeax | there doesnt seem to be any guides either |
| 01:50.42 | abrotman | greyeax: linux or bsd? |
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| 01:58.30 | greyeax | linux |
| 01:58.32 | greyeax | debian linux |
| 01:58.41 | greyeax | trying to get zfs on linux going |
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| 01:58.48 | greyeax | so i can parition the disk as zfs |
| 01:59.43 | abrotman | greyeax: right, that's a FUSE thing in Linux .. |
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| 02:00.24 | usrnix | Could someone link a post on LAMP? I'm wondering the best way to set up the area for hosting; put in /home/www or what and what to do about dedicated account for server |
| 02:00.46 | greyeax | abrotman, not FUSE, i'm talking about the zfs on linux kernel module |
| 02:00.56 | greyeax | http://zfsonlinux.org/ |
| 02:01.05 | abrotman | !tell greyeax about zfs |
| 02:05.15 | reavengrey | !tell reavengrey his future |
| 02:05.40 | reavengrey | 23:00 <dpkg> No, reavengrey, I won't. (target invalid?) |
| 02:05.46 | reavengrey | rude :< |
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| 02:07.19 | samuel | hello guys |
| 02:07.32 | samuel | anyone here getting the ubuntu edge? |
| 02:07.40 | dvs | nope |
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| 02:08.14 | Vicissitude | maybe when it runs debian |
| 02:08.16 | samuel | you think the next nexus will have the same level of hardware? |
| 02:08.42 | reavengrey | next nexus will have next generation of hardware next question |
| 02:08.56 | reavengrey | Damn, that was pretty witty |
| 02:08.59 | abrotman | samuel: this is #debian |
| 02:09.46 | samuel | looks behind for a big hole in the ground |
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| 02:20.19 | jharri34 | abrotman: i'm back |
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| 02:21.10 | abrotman | jharri34: i'm not here much longer |
| 02:21.21 | jharri34 | abrotman: im recieving this error "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf" |
| 02:21.33 | abrotman | that's not a full error? |
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| 02:22.05 | jharri34 | abrotman: sorry yeah "bash: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf: Permission denied |
| 02:22.05 | jharri34 | " |
| 02:22.12 | abrotman | does the file exist? |
| 02:22.46 | jharri34 | abrotman: its not create the conf file saying permission denied |
| 02:23.34 | jharri34 | i tried to touch the file but i got the same error |
| 02:23.42 | abrotman | jharri34: does that directory exist? can you create it as root? |
| 02:24.56 | jharri34 | abrotman: that worked |
| 02:25.08 | jharri34 | now i just restart wish me luck |
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| 02:26.11 | abrotman | or it blows up? |
| 02:26.26 | dvs | muhahahaha! |
| 02:26.39 | Th0masR0ss | watches the computer blow up |
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| 02:29.27 | dvs | awwwwwww |
| 02:29.40 | Th0masR0ss | lol |
| 02:29.45 | abrotman | jharri34: problems? explosions? |
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| 02:30.27 | abrotman | he's not cursing at me .. that's a plus |
| 02:30.28 | jharri34 | abrotman: yeah i have no user interface just a black screen |
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| 02:31.06 | abrotman | jharri34: so nouveau was much better eh? |
| 02:31.43 | jharri34 | abrotman: better than nothing how do i un-blacklist nouveau |
| 02:31.52 | abrotman | jharri34: and you were able to successfully install the nvidia dkms bit? |
| 02:31.59 | abrotman | (more than just a config file) |
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| 02:33.10 | jharri34 | abrotman: it went through the motions at least |
| 02:33.26 | jharri34 | i more'd the config file |
| 02:33.55 | abrotman | jharri34: so you will have to make that config file you created unreadable, plus undo the blacklist (probably /etc/modprobe.d/ has the file you want to find) |
| 02:35.40 | jharri34 | abrotman: ok so should i just delete the content of the config file? |
| 02:36.11 | abrotman | jharri34: i'd probably just make it have perms 000 .. you can change them later |
| 02:37.24 | jharri34 | abrotman: sorry unfamiliar with "perms" |
| 02:38.17 | abrotman | jharri34: chmod 000 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
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| 02:38.48 | jharri34 | abrotman: also im looking for alsa-base-blacklist.conf right |
| 02:39.20 | jharri34 | abrotman: in /etc/modprobe.d |
| 02:39.26 | abrotman | doubtful .. that's for alsa |
| 02:39.32 | Th0masR0ss | AMD's graphics cards are wellsupported on debian, correct? |
| 02:39.52 | dvs | Th0masR0ss: depends which model |
| 02:39.52 | abrotman | Th0masR0ss: this is on eof the dual-VGA setups that's a total mess |
| 02:40.11 | Th0masR0ss | abrotman: ah. |
| 02:40.37 | Th0masR0ss | abrotman: yes I was just talking in general nothing to do with the current question though |
| 02:40.49 | jharri34 | abrotman: what about fbdev-blacklist.conf? |
| 02:40.51 | abrotman | Th0masR0ss: IMO, yes .. depends who you ask |
| 02:41.01 | abrotman | jharri34: grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/* |
| 02:41.02 | Th0masR0ss | abrotman: I see. |
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| 02:43.36 | jharri34 | abrotman: ok got it |
| 02:43.57 | abrotman | what did you do with it? |
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| 02:44.51 | jharri34 | abrotman: commented out blacklist nouveau |
| 02:44.54 | abrotman | okay |
| 02:46.41 | jharri34 | abrotman: what sould i do to 20-nvidia.conf |
| 02:46.53 | abrotman | jharri34: chmod 000 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 02:47.10 | greyeax | abrotman so how can i use the zfs tools? |
| 02:47.22 | abrotman | greyeax: i told you, it's a FUSE thing |
| 02:47.40 | daveee123 | is a three finger swipe possible in debian? |
| 02:47.55 | greyeax | i dont really understand what that means |
| 02:48.36 | jharri34 | abrotman: ok just restart right |
| 02:48.48 | daveee123 | on a touchpad? |
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| 02:49.03 | abrotman | jharri34: and cross your fingers |
| 02:49.21 | Th0masR0ss | watches jharri34's computer explode |
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| 02:49.54 | dvs | gets into his shelter |
| 02:50.04 | jharri34 | daveee123 yes google multitouch linux |
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| 02:51.26 | greyeax | abrotman, looking at the links from that info you gave me, it looks like there's support if i apt-get install zfsutils |
| 02:51.31 | greyeax | but i can't do that in the installer |
| 02:51.36 | greyeax | i'm trying to figure out how |
| 02:51.47 | greyeax | if i drop into the shell from the installer, there's no apt-get or aptitude |
| 02:52.08 | daveee123 | jharri34: i did. there seem to only be options for 3 finger tapping. not swiping |
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| 02:52.12 | abrotman | i don't think there is zfs in the installer, are you trying to do / on zfs? |
| 02:52.43 | daveee123 | jharri34: touchegg does not seem possible to run on debian. and the synaptics driver does not support three finger gestures |
| 02:52.58 | abrotman | daveee123: what is three fingers meant to do? |
| 02:53.41 | daveee123 | abrotman: whatever you set it to? change workspaces. two finger swipes go back and forward when web browsing. pinch to zoom. that kind of stuff |
| 02:53.43 | greyeax | yeah the fuse implementation is not what i'm trying to do, i'm trying to use the native kernel port of zfs from the zfsonlinux project |
| 02:54.06 | abrotman | greyeax: perhaps you sohuld ask #zfs what your options are |
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| 02:54.58 | daveee123 | anybody have any suggestions about touchpad gestures? |
| 02:54.59 | greyeax | it's more like, i need to figure out how to install something in the live environment before i install it to disk |
| 02:55.07 | greyeax | similar to how one would do it on archlinux or gentoo |
| 02:55.18 | jharri34 | abrotman: restart no gui and when i try startx i recieve a error trying to figure out how to post it to paste bin |
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| 02:55.40 | abrotman | !pastebinint |
| 02:55.42 | abrotman | !pastebinit |
| 02:55.46 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: squeeze users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 02:55.56 | abrotman | daveee123: google seems to have some number of suggestions |
| 02:56.35 | abrotman | jharri34: I'm about to head off to bed, but you may need to remove that dkms package completely |
| 02:56.43 | greyeax | i mean i guess i could just partition the parts necessary to run the system in ext4, then have the rest be unset so i can do it after its installed |
| 02:56.49 | abrotman | nvidia is such a pain in the ass |
| 02:56.50 | jharri34 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.52 | daveee123 | abrotman: i did google. please do forward them to me though. |
| 02:57.08 | abrotman | daveee123: google "debian linux multi finger touchpad" |
| 02:57.47 | abrotman | jharri34: there are others here that know about nvidia things .. it shuld be able to undo this |
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| 02:58.42 | daveee123 | abrotman: so far only finding things for synaptics. or ubuntu |
| 02:59.15 | jharri34 | abrotman: ok ask around thanks for your help |
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| 03:03.28 | daveee123 | abrotman: ? |
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| 03:05.49 | jharri34 | I need help getting desktop environment to works when i type startx i recieve this error http://paste.debian.net/17934/ |
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| 03:07.11 | jharri34 | currently when i restart im directed to no gui terminal shell and prompted for a pass word |
| 03:07.26 | jbwiv_ | guys, I just purchased a debian dedicated server with wheezy installed. However, I have a hard time trusting "pre-installed" os. Is there anyway to verify all installed files against a checksum of what would have originally been installed by apt? I know you can't do this on configuration files or generated files, but it'd be interesting to do nonetheless |
| 03:07.59 | jbwiv_ | jharri34: what video card? |
| 03:08.29 | jharri34 | nvidia 555m i tried to install the dkms driver for it and it failed |
| 03:10.02 | jbwiv_ | what was the failure |
| 03:10.09 | jbwiv_ | jharri34: ^^ |
| 03:10.45 | jharri34 | black screen no gui and now startx say http://paste.debian.net/17934/ |
| 03:11.05 | jharri34 | jbwiv: ^^ |
| 03:11.52 | bez | I have two scripts, first in .sh and second in c, how can I run it? |
| 03:12.21 | jharri34 | bez google make files |
| 03:13.01 | bez | kk for c |
| 03:13.04 | bez | and for bash? |
| 03:13.15 | jbwiv_ | bez: ./filename.sh |
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| 03:13.25 | jbwiv_ | or /bin/bash /path/to/filename.sh |
| 03:13.31 | jharri34 | make file will work for both |
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| 03:15.04 | jharri34 | bez what you would want to do is create your own make file a tell it how to run your c and you bash file |
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| 03:16.12 | jharri34 | jbwiv: do you have any suggestions how to fix it |
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| 03:17.28 | jharri34 | jbwiv: i know there's a file somewhere that will allow you to tell linux what you screen is bug not sure where |
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| 03:22.48 | vectory_ | jharri34: a file that will tell linux where the screen is? |
| 03:22.55 | vectory_ | like xorg.conf? |
| 03:25.34 | jharri34 | vectory: maybe i've only seen it once but it had a listing of thing list keyboard, mouse, screen, and more |
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| 03:26.58 | vectory_ | sounds like it |
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| 03:28.26 | vectory_ | is that your only pc and is it a fresh install? my advise is to reinstall, doesnt take to long. its the way of least resistance |
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| 03:30.34 | jmcnaught | jharri34: don't be alarmed if your system doesn't have an xorg.conf file. recent versions of X.org are pretty good at automatically configuring your hardware, so you only need an xorg.conf file if something doesn't work right or you want to customize something |
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| 03:34.13 | jbwiv_ | jharri34: on Ubuntu, I'd typically apt-get install nvidia-current to fix this. not sure about debian. of course, you have to be ok with running the proprietary drivers to use this |
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| 03:38.02 | james41382 | is there a relatively easy way to setup an encrypted file system on wheezy post install? |
| 03:41.02 | jmcnaught | i think it's probably easier to just reinstall |
| 03:41.39 | james41382 | yeah i guess i missed that bit during the install. heh. |
| 03:42.06 | james41382 | i've been up with wheezy for about a month and i was just thinking about it. |
| 03:42.07 | jmcnaught | no harm in going through the install a few times to get it just the way you want it |
| 03:42.26 | jmcnaught | it's a learning experience :) |
| 03:42.45 | james41382 | yeah i suppose. i've already setup so many programs and upgraded the kernel. it's a little sad. |
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| 03:47.27 | james41382 | i read that the option to encrypt the file system is at the point that the partitioning takes place. |
| 03:47.52 | james41382 | any advice on this? i'm still really green. |
| 03:49.18 | jmcnaught | james41382: yes you do it while setting up the disks. the installer does all the hard stuff for you. keep in mind that you'll need to enter a passphrase every time the computer boots |
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| 03:50.16 | jmcnaught | if you have a computer that can run virtualization software (like VirtualBox) you could try a few practice runs inside VM |
| 03:51.06 | james41382 | can run? |
| 03:51.27 | james41382 | vm requires a lot of resources. |
| 03:51.33 | james41382 | or so i've heard. |
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| 03:52.46 | jmcnaught | not that much.. i have an old laptop that runs 4 or 5 vms and it only has 2GB of ram. you might not be able to do it on something with an Atom processor, but most computers from the last 5 years can probably do it |
| 03:54.09 | james41382 | jmcnaught: how do you feel about partitioning schemes? |
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| 03:55.28 | jmcnaught | james41382: i use LVM which is sort of like partitioning but more flexible. the debian installer can set LVM up for you, but you might want to read a little about it before diving right in |
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| 03:57.57 | jmcnaught | james41382: that's Logical Volume Manager. it's pretty sweet, you can grow and shrink volumes (the alternative to partitions) and add new physical disks to increase the amount available to the storage pool |
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| 04:07.01 | nvz | james41382: well as long as you have a fair amount of RAM you can run it no problem.. my wheezy setup with MATE + Sawfish weighs in under 256MB and I got 4gb ram.. so I could easily run many VMs.. processor virtualization support helps but is by no means required |
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| 04:07.41 | nvz | james41382: you should easily be able to test a debian guest on a debian host with even 1gb ram on any relatively modern system |
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| 04:11.30 | paritalasandeep | Can anyone help me out on bringing debian on ARM architecture |
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| 04:13.29 | nvz | paritalasandeep: you'd serve yourself best to ask a more specific question as I cannot gather what you need help with and I'm sure no one else can either |
| 04:15.16 | paritalasandeep | I would like to build a Debian based OS for Raspberry Pi with the applications that I like |
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| 04:16.05 | nvz | ah well I haven't any carnal knowledge of the Raspi personally but I'm sure that can be a challenge as its broadcom and the SoC depends on proprietary pieces.. |
| 04:16.21 | nvz | !raspbian |
| 04:16.22 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 04:17.15 | nvz | paritalasandeep: due to the proprietary nature of the broadcom SoC thats pretty off-topic and beyond the scope of ordinary debian support.. so keep that in mind.. you will still be using something "based on" debian, not debian.. |
| 04:17.19 | nvz | !based on |
| 04:17.19 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 04:18.01 | nvz | paritalasandeep: hope that information at least helps you out its about the best we can do for you here |
| 04:18.50 | nvz | paritalasandeep: you may get further help if you hang around in #raspbian |
| 04:19.07 | paritalasandeep | Yeah I use Raspbian regularly but can I get the info regarding package management to build a OS keeping the debian as the base |
| 04:20.20 | nvz | paritalasandeep: well if you need general information about the use of debian tools that information may be able to be offered to you here, but you'll need to separate the off-topic portions of your endeavor from the ones regarding debian and ask SPECIFIC questions |
| 04:20.53 | nvz | an you may still want to look to other places where more development and less end-user support goes on |
| 04:21.34 | nvz | this channel is just ordinary debian users like myself helping other ordinary debian users with end-user kind of support. Your needs are likely beyond the scope here |
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| 04:22.06 | paritalasandeep | can u suggest any developer channels |
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| 04:23.10 | nvz | I know of many such as #raspbian, #debian-boot, #debian-mentors (some of these may be on OFTC not freenode), however again without SPECIFIC questions I don't really know how to best answer you |
| 04:23.18 | jmcnaught | paritalasandeep: there's a big list of debian IRC channels (on irc.debian.org, separate from freenode) here: http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/ |
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| 04:24.05 | nvz | hmm.. kudos on the wiki.. /me looks |
| 04:24.28 | jmcnaught | there's even a #debian-arm channel |
| 04:24.44 | nvz | makes a note of the comprehensive list of IRC channels on the wiki |
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| 04:29.04 | nvz | dpkg, debian channels is there is a big list of debian IRC channels available at http://wiki.debian.org/IRC/ #debian is meant for general Debian user support you may get better support for specific issues in another channel. |
| 04:29.05 | dpkg | okay, nvz |
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| 04:57.52 | daveee123 | anybody have any suggestions about touchpad gestures? three finger gestures in debian? synaptics isn't cutting it. and i cannot figure out how to install touchegg, or if it is possible |
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| 05:16.10 | daveee123 | anyone know how to get touchegg on debian? |
| 05:16.48 | nvz | you'd have to compile it, it would seem.. either that or do something nasty like setup an ubuntu chroot and run it using schroot |
| 05:16.53 | nvz | the compling sounds easier |
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| 05:17.47 | nvz | I looked into it briefly as I never heard of it.. looks interesting.. seems to have a library it uses to do the fancy stuff that isn't in debian.. so that would need to be compiled as well probably |
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| 05:18.57 | nvz | there is also the option I seen on forums/lists when I googled.. which is to contact the maintainer of the ubuntu package and see if they would possibly package it for debian as well.. |
| 05:19.17 | nvz | seems like something worth having, just gonna need someone to actually do the work of integrating it into Debian |
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| 05:24.41 | yitz_ | Is there any harm in installing an Ubuntu deb package? |
| 05:24.51 | yitz_ | And if yes, what exactly is the issue? |
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| 05:28.39 | nkuttler | yitz_: yes. it's a bad idea (tm) |
| 05:28.51 | yitz_ | Why? |
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| 05:29.14 | nkuttler | yitz_: the systems are incompatible. stuff will break |
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| 05:30.12 | yitz_ | Assuming installing the package doesn't cause any other packages to install ... and I don't care if the installed package "works" or not, what can it break and how? |
| 05:30.59 | nkuttler | yitz_: that's a stupid assumption to begin with |
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| 05:31.54 | yitz_ | Perhaps. My question is still, what can installing the package break by just doing the install of the package |
| 05:32.07 | nkuttler | yitz_: your system is already broken at that point |
| 05:32.12 | nkuttler | yitz_: what are you trying to install anyway? |
| 05:32.24 | yitz_ | If it's a proper deb package, I assume dpkg ought to handle it properly |
| 05:32.33 | nkuttler | well it's not.. |
| 05:32.35 | yitz_ | Nothing in particular. I'm trying to understand what could go wrong |
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| 05:33.02 | nkuttler | yitz_: for one your libc is probably incompatible. that stops you right before step 1 |
| 05:33.06 | Shoggoth | just installed debian 7.1 on my workstation and I'm having a little problem with package management: virtualbox installes ok but it's an old version... I've tried two different official mirrors in /etc/apt/sources.list and done an apt-get update and upgrade but it's not picking up anything |
| 05:33.07 | yitz_ | I'm pretty sure that Ubuntu and Debian .deb files follow the same rules with the META file and structure and everything |
| 05:33.32 | nkuttler | yitz_: yes, but the entire dependencey tree is relevant, not the package format |
| 05:33.34 | yitz_ | nkuttler: yeah. Hence the dependency aside thing :P |
| 05:33.37 | jmcnaught | Shoggoth: what version of virtualbox did you get? |
| 05:33.50 | yitz_ | Alright. Dependencies won't line up. Is there any other issues? |
| 05:34.00 | nkuttler | yitz_: that's like.. being a biologist and assuming the earth doesn't exist |
| 05:34.03 | yitz_ | dpkg would warn if there was a dependency issue |
| 05:34.04 | dpkg | yitz_: are you using Windows? |
| 05:34.09 | yitz_ | Archlinux |
| 05:34.10 | jharri34 | i need help installing nouveau onto my computer again i've tried using nvidia binaries but they failed because of my graphic card so im trying to go back please help my computer is without graphicx |
| 05:34.27 | yitz_ | Well, Ubuntu at work, actually. Corp policies and all that |
| 05:34.27 | nkuttler | !tell jharri34 about nouveau |
| 05:34.41 | Shoggoth | jmcnaught, 4.1.18_Debian r78361 |
| 05:34.48 | nkuttler | yitz_: wait, you're not even using Debian? |
| 05:34.58 | yitz_ | nkuttler: biologist sometimes make unreal assumptions for thought experiments |
| 05:35.12 | yitz_ | nkuttler: Not presently. My family is, though, and I'm their IT person |
| 05:35.19 | jmcnaught | Shoggoth: that's the version that comes with wheezy. I think there are packages for 4.2 in backports |
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| 05:35.58 | yitz_ | Some .deb packages don't have libc dependencies, eg scripts |
| 05:36.06 | Shoggoth | jmcnaught, ahhh... ok makes sense I guess... I've never used debian as a desktop machine before so I don't have a feel for how up to the minute the packages are :) |
| 05:36.37 | nkuttler | yitz_: feel free to break your non-debian system in any ways you like. and now go ask in the right channels for the distros you use |
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| 05:36.53 | yitz_ | nkuttler: I'm asking about installing a package on Debian :P |
| 05:38.12 | Coburn | Okay, so I'm installing Debian Wheezy Stable onto my Samsung Q1 |
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| 05:38.24 | Coburn | I didn't choose "Debian Desktop" because that would install GNOME |
| 05:38.46 | Coburn | I wanted XFCE, so do I just apt-get install xfce-desktop after install is done? |
| 05:38.53 | jmcnaught | Shoggoth: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages is a pretty good resource if you need to check what versions are available |
| 05:39.22 | jharri34 | nkuttler: somethings broken |
| 05:40.01 | nkuttler | !tell jharri34 about errors |
| 05:40.19 | ImaLamer | Coburn: right |
| 05:42.32 | jharri34 | nkuttler: when trying paste.debian.net/17961 |
| 05:42.49 | jmcnaught | Coburn: the package you probably want is xfce4. you could also check this wiki page: http://wiki.debian.org/Xfce#How_to_install_Xfce |
| 05:43.13 | Shoggoth | jmcnaught, thanks for that... I guess it's going to take me a while to get used to the subtle differences moving into a new distro |
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| 05:43.34 | nkuttler | jharri34: which command did you use there? |
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| 05:44.42 | jharri34 | nkuttler:sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 05:45.05 | jmcnaught | Shoggoth: no worries. on the command line you can also use "apt-cache search <something>" to search for packages. "apt-cache show <package name>" gives you the details on a package. "apt-cache policy <package name>" shows you what version is installed (or not) and what versions are available |
| 05:45.51 | Coburn | cheers, jmcnaught |
| 05:45.58 | nkuttler | jharri34: you're on wheezy, right? |
| 05:45.58 | Shoggoth | jmcnaught, ok... I should probably try and get used to that.... my previous distro was opensuse but I've used ubuntu in the past but I've always used aptitude rather than the apt-* series of tools |
| 05:46.06 | StaticLNX | anyone able to help me setup aiccu for SixxS? |
| 05:46.08 | jharri34 | nkuttler: yes |
| 05:46.40 | jmcnaught | Shoggoth: yeah aptitude can do all of that too, but i'm more familiar with the apt suite :) |
| 05:46.52 | nkuttler | jharri34: that's odd. you should debug the postrm script that's erroring. /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg-video-nvidia.postrm |
| 05:47.11 | nkuttler | jharri34: add a second line with set -x, then re-run the command and paste the output |
| 05:47.42 | jharri34 | whenever i try startx i get this http:paste.debian.net/17963 |
| 05:47.54 | nkuttler | jharri34: please focus on this problem for now |
| 05:48.36 | jharri34 | nkuttler: ok what should i do |
| 05:48.51 | nkuttler | jharri34: what i just told you |
| 05:49.04 | jmcnaught | Shoggoth: you may already do this, but try piping the output from an apt search through sort and then less, like: "apt-cache search virtualbox|sort|less" |
| 05:49.35 | StaticLNX | =\ |
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| 05:50.12 | Shoggoth | jmcnaught, yeah... I'm an old solaris/hpux hack so I'm familiar with that stuff :) |
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| 05:52.19 | jharri34 | nkuttler: so under set -e add set x correct it im not really sure what im doing here |
| 05:53.19 | james41382 | what would happen if encrypted the partition containing windows during the installation? |
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| 05:54.33 | jmcnaught | james41382: you'd probably have an empty encrypted ext4 filesystem |
| 05:54.50 | nkuttler | jharri34: yes. that will print commands before they are run |
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| 05:55.56 | jharri34 | nkuttler: ok the, gotcha heres the output http:paste.debian.net/17966/ |
| 05:56.41 | james41382 | jmcnaught: I decided to just bear it and start over. |
| 05:56.57 | nkuttler | jharri34: um, paste the entire postrm script please |
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| 05:57.30 | james41382 | jmcnaught: I'm actually on a tablet as we speak. =] hard |
| 05:57.37 | james41382 | to,type this way though. |
| 05:57.41 | relipse | how do i check my firewall |
| 05:57.54 | jmcnaught | james41382: cool. are you at the configuring disks part of the installer? |
| 05:58.33 | jharri34 | nkuttler: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xserver-xorg-video-nvidia.postrm right? |
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| 05:58.42 | nkuttler | yes |
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| 05:59.18 | james41382 | jmcnaught: I configured the encryption already. I found the debian administrators handbook and dl'ed it to the tablet. |
| 05:59.30 | jharri34 | nkuttler: http:paste.debian.net/17968/ |
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| 05:59.35 | james41382 | rather it's formatting now. |
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| 06:01.05 | nkuttler | jharri34: ok, i'm at a loss here. a quick and dirty fix is to add "exit 0" at the beginning of the script |
| 06:01.36 | nkuttler | jharri34: that will just take the system that the removal ran cleanly, so it will probably leave a few files around that shouldn't be there |
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| 06:04.01 | Trae32566 | o.o 7.1? |
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| 06:05.17 | jharri34 | nkuttler: how do i get a desktop environment back? |
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| 06:07.18 | jharri34 | nkuttler: or simply set nouveau back to default |
| 06:09.03 | james41382 | jmcnaught: so I kept the existing partitioning scheme from the first install. just configured the encryption, but I'm a little confused about the mount points. I set one to /boot an |
| 06:09.24 | james41382 | d another to / but I think the third should be swap. |
| 06:10.42 | jmcnaught | james41382: sounds okay to me. i guess just wait and see if it boots. the separate /boot partition is basically so the place where the kernel is stored can be mounted as read-only most of the time |
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| 06:11.18 | james41382 | jmcnaught: should /boot and / be ext4? |
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| 06:12.23 | jmcnaught | james41382: on my system /boot is ext2. for the root filesystem ext4 is the default but you could use something else if you wanted |
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| 06:13.23 | james41382 | jmcnaught: I think it has to do with size among other things. I'm not sure, but my /boot is about 360mb. |
| 06:13.24 | Whix_ | anyone ears up for iwlwifi question 6050-5 getting unknown parameter with the 11n_disable option |
| 06:16.21 | grandie | james41382: mine is 16mb with a grub directory and 4 files |
| 06:16.34 | Whix_ | exit |
| 06:16.37 | Whix_ | wtf |
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| 06:18.13 | james41382 | grande: after I resized the windows partition I chose to automatically partition the free space and it made /boot 360mb, / 143gb and swap 6gb. |
| 06:19.23 | grandie | ok, how many files are in boot |
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| 06:21.20 | james41382 | grande: none because I'm reinstalling. it's all blank ATM. |
| 06:22.25 | james41382 | grande: after I install I am going to upgrade to the 3.9 back port kernel though. so that's a factor. |
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| 06:23.04 | grandie | good luck as you are already above my level |
| 06:23.50 | james41382 | grande: okay thanks. I read ext2 is good for smaller files. I think I'll just go with it. |
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| 06:24.55 | grandie | ok, later i'm out of here! |
| 06:25.45 | jmcnaught | james41382: i'm pretty sure debian uses ext2 as the default for /boot so it's probably a good choice |
| 06:27.38 | james41382 | jmcnaught: it says I can't encrypt the /boot. =\ |
| 06:28.07 | james41382 | jmcnaught: not sure how to unencrypted it now either. lol. |
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| 06:29.05 | jmcnaught | james41382: /boot can't be encrypted because it's the first stuff to load. everything else can be encrypted though |
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| 06:30.09 | james41382 | jmcnaught: got that now. |
| 06:30.50 | james41382 | jmcnaught: do you know how to unencrypted it with the manual partitioning? |
| 06:31.05 | jmcnaught | james41382: are you still in the partitions part of the installer? you might need to delete the partition and created it again without encryption |
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| 06:31.58 | james41382 | jmcnaught: that's what I thought, but I don't see the option. |
| 06:33.49 | james41382 | jmcnaught: it says I can't modify it because it's in use. I'm just going to reboot. |
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| 06:34.49 | jmcnaught | james41382: ok. i don't know what part of the installer you're at |
| 06:35.25 | james41382 | jmcnaught: no worries. I'm resourceful. |
| 06:35.26 | jmcnaught | james41382: i'm running the installer right now in a VM so I can see the options myself. a little difficult to remember what everythings called :) |
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| 06:36.53 | strugee | anyone know how i can cancel the part of the installer where it's downloading all the packages that you selected as extra |
| 06:37.46 | strugee | meaning after having installed the base system. i'm using jesse netinst |
| 06:37.54 | james41382 | jmcnaught: after reboot they no longer show as encrypted. I'll just start over. =] |
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| 06:41.57 | jk- | hey folks, is there a new place to grab packages' svn trees? |
| 06:42.15 | jk- | eg, svn: E210005: No repository found in 'svn://svn.debian.org/svn/gcccvs/branches/sid/gcc-4.8' |
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| 06:45.36 | themill | jk-: debcheckout is the generic way, although it might not know about branches used for stable updates etc, just the main development |
| 06:45.54 | themill | jk-: (you can "apt-cache showsrc packagename" and look at the Vcs headers) |
| 06:46.27 | jk- | themill: yeah, that URL is from the Vcs-Svn line |
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| 06:48.11 | jk- | ah, s/svn.debian.org/anonscm.debian.org/ :) |
| 06:48.21 | themill | :( |
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| 06:56.16 | jharri34 | i've mange to get the nouveau drive to load but in the x log it says no device found |
| 06:56.39 | jharri34 | what device is it looking for? |
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| 06:59.48 | jharri34 | or at least where is it looking for it a or what told it to look there any of these would you be great |
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| 07:19.40 | Guest36876 | hey |
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| 07:20.13 | nvz | hey hey hey |
| 07:20.31 | Guest36876 | i need help. how can i delete a read only fike? |
| 07:20.44 | Guest36876 | i had ubuntu+ debian on my pc |
| 07:20.53 | Guest36876 | but after i did an iozone test |
| 07:21.02 | Guest36876 | nd restarted it |
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| 07:21.08 | Guest36876 | it didn't come up |
| 07:21.18 | nvz | rm -f or make the file read-write or do it as root.. etc.. |
| 07:21.34 | Guest36876 | i did it as root |
| 07:21.41 | nvz | one thing you don't do is press enter so many times cause it makes it hard to follow what you're saying |
| 07:21.46 | Guest36876 | i also changed permission with chmod |
| 07:21.52 | Guest36876 | but didn't effect |
| 07:22.04 | nvz | so in other words you got an error message? |
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| 07:22.58 | Guest36876 | yes |
| 07:23.13 | Guest36876 | i don;t have any user interface :( |
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| 07:24.18 | nvz | you don't have a keyboard and a montior? |
| 07:24.19 | Guest36876 | nvz: when i try to rm syslog in /var/log |
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| 07:24.33 | nvz | wonders how he is talking to Guest36876 |
| 07:24.50 | Guest36876 | it say read only file and cannot be deleted |
| 07:25.06 | Guest36876 | nvz: i am on another computer now :) |
| 07:25.39 | nvz | Guest36876: have you heard of MC Hammer? |
| 07:25.45 | Guest36876 | nop |
| 07:25.54 | nvz | oh well then this won't be funny to you |
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| 07:25.58 | holycow | hi guys |
| 07:25.59 | nvz | Guest36876: touch this |
| 07:26.17 | nvz | Guest36876: if that fails, your filesystem is read-only |
| 07:26.25 | holycow | anyone here use a sip phone with multiple sip accounts? just curious if i can get an real world opinion on their device |
| 07:26.31 | nvz | and you "can't touch this" as MC Hammer would say |
| 07:26.48 | Guest36876 | mc hammer is a rapper?! |
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| 07:27.05 | nvz | idk what he is these days.. but you may have called him that back in the day |
| 07:27.22 | nvz | anyway it was a bad joke.. I'm tired.. |
| 07:27.29 | Guest36876 | nvz: your not funny !!!!! |
| 07:27.46 | nvz | I'm serious though... as a heart attack.. |
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| 07:27.59 | nvz | you need to check and see if your filesystem is read-only |
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| 07:28.28 | nvz | if you can "touch this" then you probably need to namei -m /var/log/syslog |
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| 07:29.10 | nvz | if you can't touch this, then you need to mount -o remount,rw / |
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| 07:49.37 | mmercer | any idea when debian plans on supporting UEFI without having to do a ton of workaround ? |
| 07:49.54 | mmercer | or when the wheezy installer will fix the /target issue for grub2 :) |
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| 07:52.52 | nvz | !debian-boot |
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| 07:54.39 | nvz | !d-i |
| 07:54.40 | dpkg | Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" is now the "stable" Debian release (May 04, 2013). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer/ for images. Developers page is http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . If you want to make custom install CDs, start with d-i. IRC: #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net. See also <errata>, <g-i>. |
| 07:55.15 | nvz | those would be the people to ask about the installer.. and since wheezy is stable idk if they're making any changes to it or not.. |
| 07:55.35 | mmercer | :\ id hope they do, since it has a bug thats been plaguing debian for more than a year |
| 07:56.25 | mmercer | odd that the installer is a separate channel, lol |
| 07:56.28 | mmercer | oh well :) tnx |
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| 07:56.46 | nvz | well the developers tend to hang out there |
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| 07:58.49 | themill | (vague assertions about it not working are also much less useful that precise bug numbers that lead to details...) |
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| 08:09.14 | y4h0 | hi there |
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| 08:10.06 | y4h0 | i have debian squeeze installed and php5.4 i've tried to downgrade to php5.3 using this http://blog.wpkg.org/2013/06/20/downgrading-to-php-5-3-on-debian-wheezy-7-0/ |
| 08:11.08 | y4h0 | however the installed package is 5.2 |
| 08:11.44 | imdea | hi, I'm running debian stable and when doing: /etc/init.d/apache2 reload it fails to start and I'm getting this error in the log file: [error] (9)Bad file descriptor: apr_socket_accept: (client socket) any ideas? I have found this happened in 2007 in this link: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=400918 but this was several releases ago |
| 08:12.09 | y4h0 | and when i remove the /etc/apt/preferences.d/preferences file and install php selecting the version - apt-get install php5=5.3.3-7+squeeze14 |
| 08:12.18 | y4h0 | i still get php 5.4 |
| 08:12.44 | y4h0 | how to install 5.3 on debian squeeze ? |
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| 08:13.59 | themill | y4h0: removing all php related packages and then asking apt to install the php version from squeeze would be the best way. The output of "aptitude versions ~nphp~i" would be good to see in a pastebin. |
| 08:14.45 | themill | y4h0: (and for future reference, I'd recommend you avoid fiddling around with different versions of php like this and most definitely avoid mixing releases as advocated in that post... it's asking for trouble) |
| 08:15.16 | y4h0 | http://pastie.org/8166659 |
| 08:15.41 | y4h0 | ok, note taken |
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| 08:16.09 | y4h0 | i agree i should not mix versions |
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| 08:17.21 | themill | y4h0: you should be able to convince apt to install the squeeze version using "aptitude install package=version ..." for each of those other packages listed there. I assume the rest of your system is still squeeze and not a mix of squeeze and wheezy? |
| 08:17.35 | themill | You could also just take this as a convenient opportunity to update to wheezy... |
| 08:17.45 | y4h0 | it is squeeze |
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| 08:18.33 | y4h0 | wait ... its 7.0 |
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| 08:18.56 | y4h0 | so it's wheezy |
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| 08:54.15 | hendricius | question - is there something like a system diagnosis for debian? for some reason my server keeps crashing, without any messages whatsoever. |
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| 08:54.23 | hendricius | i installed a custom kernel |
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| 08:54.47 | germs | remote syslog server |
| 08:54.59 | germs | or generic kernel |
| 08:55.17 | germs | but if you're debugging it, serial console or remote syslog to debug your kernel woes |
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| 08:57.13 | Neddy | Hi, I'm seeking a solution that could be alternative for MS Exchange, what should I look for? |
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| 08:57.41 | Neddy | We're a small biz and need as simple as possible |
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| 08:58.16 | hendricius | germs: i installed a proxmox kernel, it's got some changes for KVM integrated. |
| 08:58.26 | hendricius | germs: but syslog does not show any crashes. |
| 08:58.49 | germs | hendricius: a remote might, or a serial cable |
| 08:58.54 | nkuttler | Neddy: exchange does many things, doesn't it? what do you need exactly? |
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| 08:59.15 | hendricius | germs: so you are saying, have a remote syslog server that tracks everything that happens? |
| 08:59.29 | germs | that would be a remote syslog server, yes |
| 08:59.44 | germs | that or stop playing around with your kernel that keeps crashing |
| 08:59.46 | Neddy | I need email mostly |
| 09:00.19 | nkuttler | Neddy: well you have exim4 out of the box. by email do you mean pop/imap/web-based? |
| 09:00.49 | Neddy | yes, I mean POP3/IMAP |
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| 09:01.19 | nkuttler | Neddy: i use dovecot |
| 09:01.36 | hendricius | germs: ok thx. haha. yep :p |
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| 09:03.07 | Neddy | nkuttler: Can you use Thunderbird or Outlook? |
| 09:04.19 | nkuttler | Neddy: any pop3/imap client will do |
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| 09:05.24 | mumpitzel | Neddy: do you need a PIM too? if not a normal SMTP server + pop3/imap server would work |
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| 09:06.40 | Neddy | it isn't important |
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| 09:17.39 | holycow | Neddy: zarafa |
| 09:17.45 | holycow | or zimbra |
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| 09:29.01 | Neddy | Zimbra isn't on Wheezy yet, right? |
| 09:29.41 | Neddy | and Zarafa only provides web UI if I remember correctly |
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| 09:30.43 | aswen | Neddy, zimbra is only supported on ubuntu |
| 09:30.48 | aswen | and redhat |
| 09:31.01 | aswen | but not deb |
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| 09:31.35 | Neddy | yeah |
| 09:31.47 | aswen | it's a big disappointment to me btw |
| 09:32.13 | aswen | nayways, who wants to help analysing me misbehaving server? |
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| 09:33.15 | aswen | it's a postgres machiine (deb6) up for 533 days and the db admin complains that one of his queries seems to break postgres |
| 09:33.45 | aswen | one of the 1st things we wanted to know is where the load is (io/cpu/mem etc) |
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| 09:33.58 | aswen | the most favorite tool for this is top |
| 09:34.32 | aswen | and now comes the nasty bit: top only sorts on pid, not on %cpu anymore |
| 09:34.43 | germs | man top |
| 09:34.53 | aswen | so we press F (sort options) and then select k (%cpu) |
| 09:35.08 | fenris_kcf | htop |
| 09:35.15 | aswen | germs, that is really a great help, thanx, we haven't thought of that ;-) |
| 09:35.30 | oo_miguel | I know this is not strictly a debian related question.. but can I somehow connect to a mac X server form debian and work there? |
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| 09:35.40 | oo_miguel | (im not even sure if mac runs a X server ) |
| 09:35.56 | aswen | fenris_kcf, good idea, will try that |
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| 09:36.04 | germs | oo_miguel: that's an ssh option, -X |
| 09:36.20 | germs | ssh -X you@yourmac.com |
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| 09:36.42 | germs | will it work? I don't know, I don't have an OSX box |
| 09:36.48 | oo_miguel | I will first need to setup something on the mac? |
| 09:36.50 | aswen | however, i still don't understand why top refuses to sort on %cpu |
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| 09:36.59 | germs | oo_miguel: ssh server on the mac, you can use "macports" |
| 09:37.03 | germs | but I am unable to help you with that |
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| 09:37.38 | oo_miguel | germs: I never use mac and I do not feetl comfortabe on it., thats why I do not want to touch it directly ;) |
| 09:37.44 | germs | heh |
| 09:37.46 | nkuttler | germs: os x doesn't use an x server, your best bet is vnc |
| 09:37.56 | oo_miguel | ouch |
| 09:38.00 | germs | ^ listen to that guy, he probably knows better |
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| 09:38.14 | nkuttler | germs: i use gtkvncviewer, works for me |
| 09:38.22 | nkuttler | err |
| 09:38.26 | nkuttler | oo_miguel: ^^ |
| 09:38.29 | oo_miguel | ;) |
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| 09:39.09 | oo_miguel | nkuttler: what do I need to install on the mac? |
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| 09:39.37 | nkuttler | oo_miguel: it's under the sharing settings iirc, just enable desktop sharing or whatever apple calls it |
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| 09:40.08 | nkuttler | like "web sharging" turns on apache .oO |
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| 09:40.19 | oo_miguel | haha allright, thx |
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| 09:41.40 | oo_miguel | nkuttler: is the vnc transmission not painfully slow for you? it sends a screen-capture right? |
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| 09:43.08 | aswen | also in htop the %cpu column says that all processes are 0%, however the cpu's line reports like 8% us, 1% sy... |
| 09:43.13 | aswen | at the same time |
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| 09:45.25 | oo_miguel | nkuttler: vnc works like a dream, thx |
| 09:45.36 | nkuttler | oo_miguel: yeah, was just going to say, works fine on my LAN |
| 09:45.47 | oo_miguel | I just hope I can now disconnect EVERYTHING from the mac and hide it away |
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| 09:45.59 | oo_miguel | will logging in also be possible via screen-share? |
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| 09:48.21 | Glorf | hi |
| 09:48.57 | Glorf | is there any log file for the init message ? [when service are launching so things like [ok]starting gdm3 gnome display manager] |
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| 09:52.53 | thunder1212_ | i installed debian and i have downloiaded missing firmware how to install |
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| 10:04.41 | aleray | hi, I have fail2ban installed, and I'd like to open the port 8000, just temporarly to test something. How can I do this? |
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| 10:06.03 | ksk | fail2ban does not "close" ports? |
| 10:07.09 | Alegreya | why should it close ports? |
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| 10:07.42 | Marqin_ | hi |
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| 10:08.11 | erlehmann | hello there |
| 10:08.13 | erlehmann | we have a problem |
| 10:08.25 | Alegreya | so -i? |
| 10:08.32 | Alegreya | do I? |
| 10:08.43 | erlehmann | debian 6.0 should be upgraded to testing, but a “ci trigger file contains interest no-await directive” or something |
| 10:08.58 | erlehmann | i believe the dpkg which unpacks the package does not support the package format |
| 10:09.03 | erlehmann | how can i work around? |
| 10:09.11 | aleray | Alegreya, ksk sorry my wrong |
| 10:09.14 | erlehmann | triggers ci file contains unknown directive `interest-noawait' |
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| 10:10.50 | Alegreya | aleray? |
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| 10:11.43 | aleray | Alegreya, yes? |
| 10:12.04 | Alegreya | sorry for what? |
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| 10:12.29 | aleray | Alegreya, about my fail2ban question |
| 10:12.37 | aleray | (don't know anything about it) |
| 10:13.07 | Alegreya | i thought ksk was asking |
| 10:13.14 | germs | aleray: you don't really need to use fail2ban, use a hash table |
| 10:13.23 | germs | google "iptables hashlimit example" |
| 10:13.36 | germs | no need for extra software |
| 10:13.45 | aleray | germs, I'm not the sysadmin on this machine$ |
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| 10:14.08 | aleray | (although I have root access) |
| 10:14.14 | germs | unless there is already something running on 8080, you should be able to open whatever you want up |
| 10:14.26 | germs | s/running/listening |
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| 10:28.13 | joseph-andre | hi all |
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| 10:30.35 | joseph-andre | looking for information on how to implement a High available ISCSI target. Getting problems switching between nodes when the target is under hight load. |
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| 10:37.22 | jordilopezamat1 | dear debian IRC community |
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| 10:39.15 | jordilopezamat1 | Rookie here, pls. keep it in mind ... : i'm about to install my system in a new SSD disk |
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| 10:39.39 | g105b | jordilopezamat1: great |
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| 10:40.47 | jordilopezamat1 | i've heard about the SSD aligment partitions issue... ¿for a simple laptop does it really have such a disk performance impact ? :-) |
| 10:41.30 | g105b | jordilopezamat1: depends on usage. Basic usage, no. Database server, maybe. |
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| 10:42.15 | jordilopezamat1 | Basic usage + test server for some light web developement ( Drupal, etc...) |
| 10:42.33 | g105b | jordilopezamat1: you will not notice the difference |
| 10:42.46 | jordilopezamat1 | thanks g105b |
| 10:42.55 | jordilopezamat1 | next question... |
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| 10:43.50 | jordilopezamat1 | i have my system running on a 16GB pen drive... (temporarily, while getting onto the new SSD , as HDD broke !) |
| 10:44.07 | g105b | That is not a question. |
| 10:44.17 | jordilopezamat1 | which is the simplest way to move it to the new SSD ? |
| 10:44.25 | g105b | jordilopezamat1: dd |
| 10:44.34 | basiclaser | how can i search all subdirectories for a file with a certain string? I am trying to rip loads of old OUTLOOK folders from an old machine, from all the different user folders. ls -something right? :) |
| 10:45.08 | jordilopezamat1 | so... should i just dd from pen drive to sDD and the restore GRUB ? |
| 10:45.13 | jordilopezamat1 | thanks again |
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| 10:46.25 | g105b | jordilopezamat1: make a partition on the ssd to put the image of the pen drive on, then use something like gparted to extend the partition |
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| 10:50.00 | jordilopezamat1 | ah... so SSD should be just 1 partition of the full original system (which has 3 partitions : / , /home and swap ? |
| 10:50.08 | jordilopezamat1 | :-) |
| 10:50.29 | germs | http://wiki.debian.org/SSDOptimization |
| 10:50.37 | germs | jordilopezamat1: ^ |
| 10:50.55 | jordilopezamat1 | i've read that..., thanks germs |
| 10:51.53 | basiclaser | how can i search all subdirectories for a file with a certain string? I am trying to rip loads of old OUTLOOK folders from an old machine, from all the different user folders. ls -something right? :) |
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| 10:53.33 | ksk | "grep -r"? |
| 10:53.55 | ksk | whats "with a certain string" anyway? and this is the wrong channel for that kind of question i think |
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| 10:56.16 | proxy1 | In nano, syntax highlighting is not correct. I tried to fix it but I failed. Could anyone help? Check this picture: http://i.imgur.com/33Ch1sV.png |
| 10:56.35 | proxy1 | Text should be white after double quotes. |
| 10:57.08 | proxy1 | Thats .pl file. |
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| 11:01.11 | Arafangion | What's a good file and volume manager for window maker? |
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| 11:03.09 | bezaban | basiclaser: use find <path> -type f -name <pattern> |
| 11:03.33 | basiclaser | bezaban: thankyou |
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| 11:03.44 | bezaban | pipe to xargs to run commands on matches, but I would advise checking the output first :) |
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| 11:04.37 | basiclaser | bezaban: how does one pipe stuff? I never got that far in my bash tutorials :P |
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| 11:06.14 | bezaban | basiclaser: | xargs <command> |
| 11:06.31 | basiclaser | appended to the end of the find command? |
| 11:06.32 | bezaban | ie. find / -type f -name outlook.ext | xargs rm -rf |
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| 11:06.42 | basiclaser | bezaban: ok thanks :) |
| 11:06.52 | bezaban | but thats a bad command if you don't make sure the matches are all right :P |
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| 11:07.14 | bezaban | so without xargs first or do a mv /sometempdir before deleting |
| 11:07.42 | bezaban | also omit -type f if not looking for files only |
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| 11:11.15 | jordilopezamat | :-) hi |
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| 11:13.16 | jordilopezamat | Rookie here... stupid question! While partitioning, prior to installation, my new disc... ¿can i put swap first, then '/', and '/home afterwards ? I mean... ¿does the sequence of have any impact? |
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| 11:14.13 | bezaban | historically you want to have your boot partition first in case of installing the boot loader to the partition and not the MBR |
| 11:14.49 | CosmicB | jordilopezamat I think that should be ok, apart from what bezaban says |
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| 11:15.21 | jordilopezamat | ... ah. so is it preferrable to have it like '/', and '/home afterwards while swap in the hand but it's not mandatory ? |
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| 11:15.37 | CosmicB | dunno why you'd want to do that though |
| 11:16.00 | bezaban | so if you were to dualboot with another bootloader in MBR at a later point you wont have to repartition |
| 11:16.01 | jordilopezamat | I'm a strange guy... thanks CosmicB & Bezaban |
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| 11:16.11 | bezaban | np. :) |
| 11:16.35 | jordilopezamat | crystal clear |
| 11:16.36 | CosmicB | jordilopezamat you'd want a swap partition, if you pu / or /boot then / first, you could probably have wap anyplace after that and be safe |
| 11:16.39 | bezaban | I always do /boot or / first, if not only by habit |
| 11:16.54 | bezaban | swap not really that important, but I keep one around on systems that aren't pressed for space |
| 11:17.00 | jordilopezamat | ... you may want to know why i do have such a strange ideas...? :-D |
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| 11:17.44 | jordilopezamat | ... you may not... let's try the classical way... thanks |
| 11:17.48 | bezaban | it's cheap and in case it needs it you can swap to disk instead of whatever it does when out of memory :P |
| 11:18.12 | CosmicB | you need a swap, and you want your system not to use it :p not that I wanna start an other 'what is virtual memory' discussion |
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| 11:19.31 | jordilopezamat | ¿is it really needed swap on a 2GB dual core system to be used as laptop typical stuff ... ? I've read that it should only for hibernation purposes... ¿isn't) |
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| 11:20.20 | defnordic | swap is for an extension to your RAM |
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| 11:21.50 | bezaban | uses when RAM is exhausted (but basically you shouldn't be swapping to disk at all), but can also be used for storing a copy of memory while sleeping/hibernating |
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| 11:22.24 | jordilopezamat | Right guys... so ¿does suspend mode use swap? |
| 11:22.42 | jordilopezamat | :-D |
| 11:23.28 | bezaban | you hibernate to swap, suspending just keeps the information in RAM I think |
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| 11:23.46 | bezaban | or other way around, can never remember |
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| 11:23.56 | proxy1 | Text should be white after double quotes. |
| 11:23.56 | jordilopezamat | .. the thing is, would like to avoid creating a 'swap' partition in my new SSD , if it's not such a fool idea ?! |
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| 11:24.31 | bezaban | jordilopezamat: how much memory do you have and will you be running memory intensive stuff? |
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| 11:24.40 | bezaban | it's your call basically |
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| 11:25.15 | bezaban | just don't run out of memory :P |
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| 11:26.15 | bezaban | afaik nothing bad will happen but you'll see performance issues |
| 11:26.15 | jordilopezamat | bezaban i've 2GB RAM on a Dual Core laptop (basic use, intense browsing, some Drupal or other LAMP stuff light developement, some gimp and video editing from time to time... ) |
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| 11:26.43 | bezaban | with that memory and use I would recommend swap. Swapping to SSD might even be good |
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| 11:26.53 | bezaban | well, better than non-ssd at least |
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| 11:28.02 | jordilopezamat | yep, SSD goes like quite much faster than HDD... |
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| 11:30.26 | jordilopezamat | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSD#Comparison_of_SSD_with_hard_disk_drives ... like 200 Mbps reading speed |
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| 11:33.01 | jordilopezamat | compared to the my old HDD... i'm about to see quite overall system performance increase, i guess... :-) |
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| 11:35.47 | oourrf | hi |
| 11:35.51 | oourrf | google hate me |
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| 11:36.31 | oourrf | i mean to overwrite the output line |
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| 11:56.31 | ksk | basiclaser: using what way? your hosters panel? go ask your hoster. using a dns-server that is packaged in debian: go ahead |
| 11:57.08 | rmrfchik | how to change UUID of root in grub? |
| 11:57.16 | rmrfchik | I move to other boot disk |
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| 11:57.38 | rmrfchik | I've copied all files to new disk and now I need to change UUID |
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| 12:42.24 | aswen | hi there, if i do "cat /dev/urandom >/dev/null" i should see something else than 0.0 as output of "ps -eo %cpu,pid,user,pmem,cmd"? |
| 12:42.37 | aswen | at the line of cat /dev/urandom? |
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| 12:44.27 | aswen | what could be wrong with my server when he does not report any cpu usage at all anymore? |
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| 12:48.20 | Shoggoth | how do I get metacity and the various gnome toolbars to "spread" across multiple monitors? |
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| 12:52.50 | wdouglass | hey all...i like the way that hal/dbus automatically mounts usb sticks, but i've switched to a non-gnome window manager. can i get that automount functionality back? |
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| 12:55.03 | nvz | wdouglass: you can retain gnome settings by running gnome-settings-daemon you can create a custom session in ~/.Xsession with all commands having & at the end except the last which is your window manager that runs in the foreground, then choose "default" from the display manager |
| 12:55.38 | wdouglass | nvz: great thanks! I'll read up on gnome-settings-daemon |
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| 12:57.22 | Roenie | the part I don't understand is.... why should gnome be needed for this at all? |
| 12:57.53 | nvz | its not but you need something to do it |
| 12:58.11 | nvz | all a window manager does is manage windows.. |
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| 12:58.33 | Roenie | I run i3, and I too would like to have usb automounted |
| 12:59.13 | Roenie | but if I can avoid using any gnome stuff, I will |
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| 13:00.39 | Roenie | I should probably read up on hal/dbus |
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| 13:01.04 | nvz | !halevt |
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| 13:01.05 | dpkg | somebody said halevt was a clean-room rewrite of <ivman> which is a generic handler for <hal> events. Amongst other things, it mounts devices when they are attached to the system. |
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| 13:01.27 | Roenie | nice |
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| 13:02.06 | themill | does anything actually use hal these days? |
| 13:02.27 | nvz | the most important thing perhaps that a desktop environment offers users who don't know better is a session manager that starts everything else.. so first thing you have to do when moving away from one is configure your session file so you can run more than one program when you login |
| 13:03.19 | stmiller | amazon prime playback in linux needs hal :) |
| 13:03.23 | Shoggoth | I need to use and old version of software that's no longer in the debian repo's ... how do I let apt know that I've manually installed a dpkg and I don't want it upgraded ? |
| 13:03.39 | Roenie | I see, nvz |
| 13:04.06 | themill | Shoggoth: you can put the package on hold or pin it. /msg dpkg hold |
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| 13:04.27 | nvz | I'm not touchin that one with a stick.. still seems to me to be no way to actually hold a package across package managers |
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| 13:04.43 | nvz | they all do it differently and dont respect one another |
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| 13:05.45 | joel_ | Hi, I'm having a problem with a debian box, when trying to do for example a dpkg --remove <package> I'm getting this error: dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 2580 package 'sgml-base': |
| 13:05.45 | joel_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:05.48 | Shoggoth | themill, thanks but I had the same impression that nvz does... won't apt try and upgrade it? |
| 13:05.55 | Roenie | nvz, he didn't mean he installed a different pkg manager, just manually installed a specific package |
| 13:06.25 | Shoggoth | Roenie, ok so themill is correct then? |
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| 13:06.39 | Roenie | think so |
| 13:06.41 | themill | Shoggoth: you can put it on hold with both aptitude and dpkg if you want. |
| 13:06.44 | nvz | I know exactly what he meant.. and if you hold something here, another package manager will overwrite it.. holds that work in aptitude will not hold in synaptic.. and such |
| 13:06.59 | themill | nvz: so don't do that™ |
| 13:07.12 | Roenie | ah yes |
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| 13:07.43 | Shoggoth | nvz, themill ok... so I only ever use apt-get and aptitude (and of course dpkg directly for this one-off thing) so I'm guessing I'll have to tell all three to hold? |
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| 13:08.24 | themill | Shoggoth: aptitude has some funny ideas about hold but I can't recall which direction it misbehaves in. apt-get just uses dpkg's information. |
| 13:08.36 | Shoggoth | nvz, themill ...actually scratch that... I can install the .deb with apt-get or aptitude yes? |
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| 13:08.55 | themill | Shoggoth: only if it is in a repo and that doesn't change that apt will want to immediately upgrade it |
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| 13:10.08 | Shoggoth | themill, ok.... so as long as I stick to apt-get for installs (I tend to use aptitude for search... old habit) I should be ok then... thanks |
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| 13:10.36 | themill | Shoggoth: or just place the package on hold with both dpkg and aptitude. Or pin the package. |
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| 13:10.57 | Shoggoth | themill, sorry for a stupid question... what's the diff between hold and pin? |
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| 13:11.04 | pav5088 | How do I find which package a particular file belongs to? |
| 13:11.17 | BadCodSmell | I'm trying to get the GPU on a pentium G2020 working on Debian 6 (ivy bridge/HD graphics 2500) without upgrading to debian 7. Does anyone know a way I can do this? Perhaps a reliable alternate source of X or do I need to roll my own replacement packages? |
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| 13:11.52 | zykotick9 | pav5088: if it's installed, you can use "dpkg -S /path/to/file" |
| 13:12.00 | ksk | BadCodSmell: how about debian 7? |
| 13:12.27 | Shoggoth | pav5088, and if it's not you can dpkg -c /path/to/package.deb |
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| 13:12.56 | BadCodSmell | ksk: If i were a hobbiest or a single desktop user that might be ok, but its load of embedded machines... so this is extremely inconvenient. |
| 13:13.06 | Marqin_ | hi |
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| 13:13.35 | BadCodSmell | And 7 can introduce dozens or hundreds of bugs to fix one thing, requires days of work at minimum on a tight schedule... |
| 13:13.42 | Marqin_ | why when i paste "useradd --system --shell /bin/bash \" to my server via ssh i get there "useradd --system --shell /bin/\bash" ?? |
| 13:13.49 | Marqin_ | some shell bug? |
| 13:14.14 | nvz | took me an hour at most to upgrade to wheezy and I did it all in the background while I worked on other things |
| 13:14.24 | nvz | same as every other upgrade I've done since potato |
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| 13:15.04 | nvz | with exceptions of cases where I had to do a kernel upgrade first |
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| 13:28.01 | patsToms | any ideas where xorg.conf is stored? |
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| 13:29.25 | ksk | patsToms: like in /etc/X11/ maybe? |
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| 13:30.24 | patsToms | I reinstalled debian. I have /home mounted in another partition so that was unchanged |
| 13:30.33 | abrotman | patsToms: it's not used unless you create one |
| 13:30.43 | patsToms | after reinstall I got the same xorg config wrong |
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| 13:30.49 | patsToms | that I had before |
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| 13:30.58 | mase76 | hi! anybody knows how to change the gdm wallpaper in jessie? changing the greeter config file does not work. and with dconf it also doesn't. |
| 13:31.06 | patsToms | can it be somewhere on /home haha? |
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| 13:31.13 | abrotman | patsToms: i just told you |
| 13:31.45 | patsToms | yeah, but can it be somewhere in /home? |
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| 13:32.00 | ctmjr | sure if you put it there |
| 13:32.02 | abrotman | it can be, generally it's not |
| 13:32.07 | abrotman | seems a silly place to put it |
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| 13:32.15 | Perdu | patsToms: next time, you may be interested in the 'locate' command |
| 13:32.25 | patsToms | oh, sorry |
| 13:32.50 | abrotman | Perdu: that only works if you know about hte updatedb command? :) |
| 13:32.59 | abrotman | patsToms: find / -name xorg.conf |
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| 13:34.48 | patsToms | thanks everyone about info, will try find now |
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| 13:36.34 | Perdu | abrotman: isn't it configured autmatically on debian? I just tried 'locate xorg.conf' on my recent debian installation and it found related files |
| 13:37.49 | BadCodSmell | Does anyone know of any repos for debian 6 (not 7) from where I can install a more recent version of xorg? |
| 13:38.17 | antihero | test |
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| 13:39.06 | patsToms | abrotman, no, that command didn´t find anything |
| 13:39.06 | Desert_eagle | how could i manage cgourps in wheezy? |
| 13:39.14 | abrotman | patsToms: so you don't have one |
| 13:39.19 | Desert_eagle | there is no daemons cgred and cgconfig |
| 13:39.26 | abrotman | Perdu: i think it depends on which set of packages you install at install time |
| 13:39.28 | patsToms | but why I still have that xorg error, any ideas? |
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| 13:39.38 | abrotman | what error? |
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| 13:40.02 | patsToms | that xorg config is wrongly configured |
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| 13:40.31 | abrotman | do you have anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ? |
| 13:40.37 | Aramur | BadCodSmell: squeeze-backports |
| 13:40.57 | patsToms | sorry, It´s new install |
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| 13:42.05 | BadCodSmell | Aramur: Unfortunately this doesn't make ivy bridge gpus work |
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| 13:44.36 | jharri34 | hello, after trying to install dkms yesterday my graphics are gone i only have text base terminal now i'm simply trying to install nouveau i have to module loading but when i try startx i recieve the error no screens are found |
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| 13:45.43 | Aramur | BadCodSmell: for that you'll probably need newer packages that are not available in squeeze/squeeze-backports. |
| 13:45.52 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 13:46.33 | Posterdati | I've got cdrecord unknown error 254 on debian 7 |
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| 13:47.21 | Posterdati | shall I buy a new dvd drive? |
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| 13:49.32 | jharri34 | when i check to log file it shows that nouveau does in load and uses VT # 7 but then says that no devices detected and no screens found |
| 13:50.47 | BadCodSmell | Is it possible to produce some kind of epic graphical dependency tree/graph for all installed debian packages? |
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| 13:51.01 | BadCodSmell | That is, does such a tool already exist. |
| 13:51.38 | BadCodSmell | debtree? |
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| 13:54.55 | ne0h|nihilist | hi folks, im about to setup a bind9 on our debian server, does it worth to put it on a chroot jail? |
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| 14:00.07 | g105b | How should I use iptables to forward requests on port 8080 to 54.229.110.216:80 ? |
| 14:01.39 | hellerbarde | hi. I have a problem. I set up two identical Debian computers with bog-standard GUI etc. and then I installed a third party package on one. Now I seem to have lost the rights to Shutdown the pc or mount a usb stick, whereas I still have those rights on the other one. How can I best determine which package broke that or better how to configure it that I have those rights again? |
| 14:02.02 | Azrael_- | i |
| 14:02.15 | Azrael_- | i'd guess to look at /etc/sudoers |
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| 14:03.03 | Azrael_- | g105b: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28516/redirect-requests-to-my-external-ip-port-to-a-different-external-ip-port |
| 14:03.16 | hellerbarde | Azrael_-: Oh, good call, but I still have sudo rights. I didn't clarify, I meant the rights inside the Gnome3 GUI. when I click on "Shutdown", it just logs me out to the GDM |
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| 14:04.11 | Azrael_- | sorry, no more ideas |
| 14:04.25 | Azrael_- | did you check all logs? |
| 14:04.34 | hellerbarde | I tried. |
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| 14:04.52 | hellerbarde | but since gnome 3 I am not quite sure what does what anymore |
| 14:05.07 | hellerbarde | I think policykit is involved, somehow, but I am not quite sure how that works. |
| 14:05.24 | Azrael_- | i nearly never use gui, so i'm out |
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| 14:07.30 | armin | hi, can i tell apt-get dist-upgrade to assume "keep"ing files on an upgrade? |
| 14:07.33 | hellerbarde | Azrael_-: good on you :) |
| 14:07.40 | armin | like, to not have to hit enter or N all the time? |
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| 14:09.58 | Azrael_- | armin: dpkg-reconfigure debconf |
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| 14:11.09 | _christoph_ | Hi, how do I disable repos from unattended upgrades? |
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| 14:13.31 | Mackwerk | I'm trying to set a job to run at 1:10 am every tuesday, I'm having trouble figuring out the syntax for it, so I looked at some online editors and I'm getting varied results :O One site gives me: 10 1 * 2 and another gives me: 10 1 _ * 1 I've never seen the underscore in cron before, what does it mean? :o |
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| 14:14.41 | ksk | man cron? |
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| 14:15.58 | ne0h|nihilist | hi folks, im about to setup a bind9 on our debian server, does it worth to put it on a chroot jail? |
| 14:16.16 | Perdu | _christoph_: remove them from your sources.list? |
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| 14:16.34 | Perdu | Or do you want to disable *automatic* updates? |
| 14:16.52 | paradigmarson | I want to uninstall a long list of dependencies that aren't marked auto. So I guess I should mark them as auto and uninstall the package they depend on. |
| 14:17.11 | paradigmarson | How can I mark a package's dependencies as auto? |
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| 14:17.19 | jgornick | Hey guys, what's a distribution that I can use for a headless instance that is very small? |
| 14:17.27 | _christoph_ | Perdu: I would like to keep them in sources, just disabling the auto update ... :/ |
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| 14:17.43 | hellerbarde | jgornick: what do you consider very small? |
| 14:18.04 | jgornick | hellerbarde, smaller than 250mb |
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| 14:18.15 | Perdu | ne0h|nihilist: I guess it depends on how paranoid you are/ what level of security you want. Bind9 has several CVE registered, so I guess it may be worth the trouble |
| 14:18.28 | hellerbarde | jgornick: and what is it supposed to be doing? |
| 14:18.44 | Phil | WARNING! WARNING! DevCon 1 Has Been Initiated! |
| 14:19.04 | jelly-home | eyes Phil with suspicion |
| 14:19.34 | jgornick | hellerbarde, it's a temporary solution that we can use to deliver as a vm to a customer so we can perform some operations on our devices |
| 14:20.22 | Perdu | _christoph_: what are you using for auto-updating? |
| 14:20.31 | Perdu | cron-apt, maybe? |
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| 14:20.56 | hellerbarde | jgornick: have you tried a minimal debian install? alternatively, try something like knoppix, puppy linux, arch linux (maybe...) |
| 14:21.12 | jgornick | hellerbarde, i had not tried minimal debian |
| 14:21.15 | hellerbarde | ah |
| 14:21.16 | jgornick | thank you! |
| 14:21.16 | ne0h|nihilist | Perdu: all right, tks |
| 14:21.37 | hellerbarde | jgornick: oh okay, i just thought you would have tried that, being in #debian and all :D |
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| 14:21.47 | Perdu | If so, remove the package and that's it. If what you want is prevent *some* repos from autopudating, then I can't help you (I don't use autoupdate) |
| 14:21.57 | _christoph_ | Perdu: I use /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades |
| 14:22.01 | jgornick | hellerbarde: Ha! Yeah, my bad :P |
| 14:23.51 | Perdu | _christoph_: Then comment the lines related to the repos you want to update manually? |
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| 14:24.34 | _christoph_ | Perdu: is there something like "Unattended-Upgrade::Origin-Blacklist" ? |
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| 14:25.16 | _christoph_ | Perdu: I am using "${distro_id} stable"; and "${distro_id} ${distro_codename}-security"; as allowed origins at the moment ... |
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| 14:25.43 | _christoph_ | Perdu: my third repo is then an external one which I want to use manually |
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| 14:26.55 | INeedHelp | I have a Acer Aspire E1-522-5659 and everything works very well, except the touchpad which doesn't. It shows up, and when I try and move around it fails to sync, and is incredibly slow. Also can't left or right-click, let alone tap on anything to select it. Can someone help? |
| 14:27.26 | Perdu | _christoph_: I fail to understand your problem; if the repo you want to update manually is not specified in this file, then isn't everything fine? |
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| 14:28.37 | armin | Azrael_-: ok seems like i wouldn't want to touch that. :) |
| 14:29.11 | Perdu | INeedHelp: I add that tap problem several days ago, you can configure it somewhere ine the system options if you use gnome (in Keyboard I think) |
| 14:29.33 | INeedHelp | Wouldn't work, I've already tried :( |
| 14:29.59 | INeedHelp | I mean nothing really works on the track pad. The physical right/left-click buttons don't work |
| 14:30.07 | INeedHelp | The touchpad* |
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| 14:30.22 | INeedHelp | It fails to sync properly when moving it around, and I can't tap on it either |
| 14:30.28 | Perdu | INeedHelp: You may be missing a driver then |
| 14:30.53 | INeedHelp | I do I find out what I need? I've never honestly messed with touchpads before. |
| 14:31.03 | INeedHelp | They don't seem to ever have an issue |
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| 14:36.44 | Perdu | I don't know; anyone? |
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| 14:38.52 | Azrael_- | armin: :) |
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| 14:39.00 | mtn | INeedHelp: try the debian wiki and if you don't find anything, try the arch linux wiki |
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| 14:39.56 | INeedHelp | mtn: I've already looked, which is why I'm in here :P |
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| 14:40.37 | mtn | INeedHelp: so the arch wiki had no information on touchpads? |
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| 14:41.31 | INeedHelp | It had no information in regards to either my touchpad, about acer touchpads that I could attempt on my machine, or anything that would be helpful in my case. |
| 14:41.43 | INeedHelp | I found a bunch of information on touchpads, but nothing useful |
| 14:42.01 | mtn | INeedHelp: sorry to hear that |
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| 14:42.41 | INeedHelp | Brb |
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| 14:47.34 | th0r | INeedHelp, you might want to check into synclient. It is a command line tool for configuring touchpads |
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| 14:48.20 | INeedHelp | synclient? unable to locate package |
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| 14:48.36 | StaticLNX | routers are debian boxen... |
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| 14:49.40 | Perdu | INeedHelp: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics |
| 14:49.44 | th0r | INeedHelp, not sure which package, but I have it installed by default in wheezy |
| 14:49.51 | Perdu | (I guess) |
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| 14:50.14 | INeedHelp | Already the newest version |
| 14:50.35 | daveee123 | three finger swiping in debian? anybody know if it is possible? |
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| 14:54.54 | theothertom | StaticLNX: AIUI, the box with radvd should forward whatever it's sent using whatever it has in its local routing tables |
| 14:55.11 | theothertom | though TBH, my v6 knowledge is a little hit and miss |
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| 14:59.20 | rmrfchik | well... I can login as root from console or sshd, but "su -" won't accept root password |
| 14:59.23 | rmrfchik | wtf? |
| 14:59.36 | rmrfchik | this happens after I moved system to new harddriver |
| 14:59.38 | rmrfchik | this happens after I moved system to new harddrive |
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| 15:00.40 | INeedHelp | Touchpad is still acting weird. dmesg keeps saying "psmouse serio1: Touchpad at isa0060/serio1/input0 lost sync at byte 6" |
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| 15:26.23 | bla | Switching to Jessie... great way to procrastinate. (: |
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| 15:26.56 | SirLagz | I'm already on Jessie lol. |
| 15:27.11 | bla | Try downgrading and then upgrading again. |
| 15:27.11 | bla | ;) |
| 15:27.19 | SirLagz | No thanks, tried and failed miserably. |
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| 15:29.01 | daveee123 | three finger swiping on a touchpad in debian? anybody know if it is possible? |
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| 15:29.55 | ksuhku | daveee123, sure it if your hardware supports it |
| 15:29.58 | ksuhku | *is |
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| 15:30.15 | ksuhku | man synaptics |
| 15:30.17 | daveee123 | ksuhku: my hardware supports it. |
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| 15:30.41 | daveee123 | how do i set it up? synaptics doesnt support it |
| 15:30.50 | daveee123 | ksuhku: ^ |
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| 15:31.12 | ksuhku | daveee123, probably via synclient |
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| 15:31.50 | BackEndCoder | hi |
| 15:32.01 | BackEndCoder | i'm seeing a delay on load when i load websites |
| 15:32.12 | BackEndCoder | it hangs for about 3 seconds then everything loads really fast |
| 15:32.18 | BackEndCoder | i'm assuming this is a dns delay issue |
| 15:32.34 | BackEndCoder | is there a problem that i can bench,mark the issue in debian gui ? |
| 15:32.39 | BackEndCoder | something like namebench ? |
| 15:32.58 | jordanm | BackEndCoder, grep '^hosts' /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 15:33.14 | daveee123 | ksuhku: i don't think that synclient does it |
| 15:33.44 | BackEndCoder | hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 |
| 15:33.51 | BackEndCoder | i'm not aware of this file, never used it before |
| 15:34.08 | daveee123 | ksuhku: synclient leads to synaptics driver |
| 15:34.16 | ksuhku | daveee123, I'm afraid I can't help you more, the synaptics manual page does talk about 3 finger swipes |
| 15:34.32 | daveee123 | ksuhku: i'm on it right now. i don't see it |
| 15:34.46 | BackEndCoder | there is a local nameserver that uses root servers on the network, again debian based using bind. its all behind a 80Mbit line tho.. so it should be a little faster |
| 15:34.56 | ksuhku | input / three daveee123 (if you're using the default pager) |
| 15:35.15 | Desert_eagle | root@main1:~# cat /proc/cgroups | fgrep memory |
| 15:35.17 | Desert_eagle | memory010 |
| 15:36.08 | daveee123 | ksuhku: i'm on the website. what is input / three? a command? |
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| 15:36.18 | BackEndCoder | does my hosts: line look normal ? |
| 15:36.31 | ksuhku | daveee123, that's if you're reading the manual page "man synaptics" |
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| 15:36.56 | daveee123 | ksuhku: ok, well i'm on the website. same manual. all i see are three finger taps |
| 15:37.46 | ksuhku | daveee123, oh dear, you're right and I'm wrong about the manual page |
| 15:38.05 | ksuhku | sorry mate |
| 15:38.05 | daveee123 | ksuhku: noooooooo! dammit |
| 15:38.12 | daveee123 | ksuhku: it's good |
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| 15:48.01 | gazzwi86 | Im running debian and wondering how I can get nodes to answer to node commands? |
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| 15:54.40 | babilen | gazzwi86: Are you looking for something like puppet, salt and chef or something along the lines of dish, dsh, clusterssh, ... ? |
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| 16:01.15 | noeom | Hi. I am running Debian 7 stable on my laptop, with Mate desktop. When the computer is on and I press the power button, the typical (suspend, hibernate, restar, cancel, shutdown) dialog is shown, but shortly afterwards, without user interaction, it starts the poweroff sequence. How can I fix this? |
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| 16:01.37 | noeom | Also, when I try to use the power button to resume from suspension, it resumes and then, it starts the poweroff sequence as well. |
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| 16:05.39 | patsToms | any ideas about broken packages? http://vpaste.net/HMmYl |
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| 16:07.19 | funfool | howdy folks, just curious if any phoronix-test-suite users here? |
| 16:08.40 | rypervenche | Does Debian support UEFI in the regular installer? I want to install Debian only on a computer. |
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| 16:11.29 | funfool | either way, I filed a bug on phoronix in funtoo and also gentoo, tempted to file one in debian as well, as I assume it will be the same across distro platform |
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| 16:12.45 | funfool | you choose a test to run, it wants to modify and install packages on your system, ask for your root password http://pastebin.com/v1vRJUku |
| 16:13.00 | funfool | to me that is just wrong |
| 16:13.16 | Desert_eagle | how could i test my cgroups limits? |
| 16:13.29 | Desert_eagle | is there any code that just allocate memory? |
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| 16:24.18 | ksk | Desert_eagle: fork bomb? (google it) |
| 16:25.01 | ksk | !tell rypervenche about uefi |
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| 16:26.25 | funfool | Desert_eagle, I ran a fork bomb once for fun, it stressed my old nvidia 9400GT so hard, it died ... careful with fork bomb :) |
| 16:26.44 | moxie | holy cow its going to take forever to zero this 146gb raid 1 on SAS drives.... |
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| 16:27.38 | jordanm | I would expect it to take about 1 hour |
| 16:27.59 | moxie | its at like 5 percent after...i'd say 30 minutes |
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| 16:28.09 | freebirD2 | hi |
| 16:28.16 | jordanm | moxie, how are zeroing it? |
| 16:28.25 | moxie | installer |
| 16:28.35 | moxie | for encrypted lvm |
| 16:29.19 | ksk | so you are not zeroing it.. but filing it with random data - thats quite a difference |
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| 16:44.09 | frostschutz | filling a device with /dev/urandom takes ages, that's why nobody does it. encrypting zeroes with a random key is faster and shred is even faster |
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| 16:45.34 | roaet | Hallo. Very quick question about reprepro. Reprepro is not a service, it is just a way to manage debian things and requires a service to host its files. Yes or no? |
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| 16:49.18 | Guest54487 | hello folks. Is there an option to aptitude to automatically accept a conflict resolution? |
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| 16:56.03 | HelenaKitty | How do I reduce the size of my SWAP partition to 512MB? My SWAP partition is currently 2GB and I don't even use anywhere near that! |
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| 16:56.35 | HelenaKitty | I even only use 26MB RAM. |
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| 17:01.20 | funfool | HelenaKitty, gparted is a pretty safe way to do this, but is still chance of losing data. what location is your swap partition in, on the drive? |
| 17:02.43 | funfool | HelenaKitty, if it is sda2, you shrink it, to gain the space back and sda3 is / you may lose everything ... it is a chance you take for 1 gig drive space |
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| 17:05.07 | HelenaKitty | funfool: /dev/sda5, which is on the extended partition /dev/sda2 |
| 17:05.31 | HelenaKitty | At the beginning of the drive |
| 17:05.45 | HelenaKitty | I meant the end |
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| 17:06.34 | mtn | HelenaKitty: it really is pointless to do what you want to do, and potentially dangerous on a working system |
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| 17:07.43 | qmr | I'm running Debian 7 in a VirtualBox guest, and using USB passhtrough with an external USB drive. The drive is shown in lsusb and dmesg, however I do not seem to have a device like /dev/sdb - any ideas on what I should do about this? |
| 17:07.57 | funfool | HelenaKitty, is only worth it if you are on a arm or something with a 4 gig hard drive, to gain 1 gig on a old 80 gig hard drive is not worth it |
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| 17:09.13 | moxie | centos has such a useless repo |
| 17:10.15 | moxie | gnome vs kde is not a choice |
| 17:10.34 | HelenaKitty | funfool: Yeah ur right I broke the permissions on the swap. lol |
| 17:10.49 | yitz_ | Is there anything about instaling an Ubuntu package on Debian that could cause damage (other than potential dependency conflicts)? |
| 17:10.56 | funfool | :D is how we learn |
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| 17:12.25 | HelenaKitty | swapon: /dev/sda5: swapon failed: Invalid argument |
| 17:12.36 | HelenaKitty | Idk what permissions it was set to o.o |
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| 17:13.39 | funfool | HelenaKitty, not sure, you say it is the end of the drive? should be easy fix, what tool are you using to change it? |
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| 17:13.59 | HelenaKitty | funfool: I used gparted |
| 17:14.06 | HelenaKitty | but I'd rather use the CLI |
| 17:14.09 | HelenaKitty | than start X |
| 17:14.18 | Th0masR0ss | Does Win32DiskImager work with debian? |
| 17:14.27 | HelenaKitty | WTF is all this doing in /dev/fstab?! |
| 17:14.30 | HelenaKitty | removes |
| 17:14.52 | HelenaKitty | gone woof shredded! |
| 17:14.56 | HelenaKitty | *poof |
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| 17:15.12 | funfool | fdisk will do it, just del it ... maybe HelenaKitty just needs to clean house first ;) |
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| 17:16.19 | HelenaKitty | funfool: I don't get what I am needing to do |
| 17:16.40 | HelenaKitty | Shouldn't I be using chown?! |
| 17:16.59 | HelenaKitty | /dev/sda5 wont mount because of permissions. |
| 17:17.18 | bezaban | have you made a new filesystem? |
| 17:17.43 | HelenaKitty | oh 0660 |
| 17:17.50 | hircus | I was using xfce with lightdm on debian testing. A few days ago when I booted up I got this problem where I see an alternating black screen and the login screen's background. I think the x server keeps restarting. |
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| 17:18.46 | HelenaKitty | swapon: /dev/sda5: insecure permissions 1660, 0660 suggested. |
| 17:18.59 | HelenaKitty | So then I did "sudo chown 0660 /dev/sda5". |
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| 17:19.41 | funfool | and? |
| 17:19.57 | HelenaKitty | and it's still complaining that the permissions are 1660 |
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| 17:20.15 | funfool | seems wrong to me that /swap has permissions |
| 17:20.23 | LtL | HelenaKitty: you want chmod |
| 17:20.36 | HelenaKitty | oh yeah my bad |
| 17:20.48 | funfool | del it recreate it with gparted and use swap fs |
| 17:20.49 | HelenaKitty | That sorted that issue out! |
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| 17:25.20 | funfool | HelenaKitty, you want to play, you know it ... can you do a search for me and see if phoronix test suite is on apt? ggogle says it is, but I dunno |
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| 17:30.14 | HelenaKitty | funfool: o.o |
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| 17:31.10 | funfool | HelenaKitty, I am a bad boy from the other side of the tracks, come to steal all the debian girls |
| 17:31.26 | socomm | HelenaKitty: you shouldn't need to directly modify permissions on device files :^/ |
| 17:31.36 | funfool | I filed a bug in funtoo and also gentoo on prohonix |
| 17:32.13 | funfool | I think the bug would be cross distro platform and in gentoo also |
| 17:32.28 | funfool | I meant debian also |
| 17:32.43 | socomm | funfool: there are no girls on the internet, sorry to let you know |
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| 17:33.12 | funfool | there are fbi agents that claim to be girls :P |
| 17:33.37 | socomm | funfool: telling FBI agents that you're a 'bad boy', may not be such a good idea |
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| 17:33.59 | mgariepy | hello, i'm wondering where should i look if i would like an upstream release to be included in debian |
| 17:34.02 | HelenaKitty | socomm: http://pastie.org/8168081 |
| 17:34.23 | HelenaKitty | o.o |
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| 17:34.34 | thepreacher | How can I make python3.3 the default on jessie. I'm taking a course that requires python3.3. The default for jessie at the moment is python3.2 |
| 17:35.05 | socomm | thepreacher: default? |
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| 17:35.23 | jordanm | ,versions python3 |
| 17:35.24 | judd | Package: python3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.1.3-12+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.2.3-6; jessie: 3.2.3-7; sid: 3.3.2-3; experimental: 3.3.2-11 |
| 17:35.33 | socomm | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10434260/how-to-make-python3-2-interpreter-the-default-interpreter-in-debian |
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| 17:35.56 | HelenaKitty | licks funfool |
| 17:36.01 | fragstone | hello ;) |
| 17:36.11 | HelenaKitty | fragstone: Herro! |
| 17:36.17 | grothend1eck | HelenaKitty: 'ls -la' will show you the ownership and permissions on a given file (or of all files in a directory) so you can check that everything is correct |
| 17:36.20 | funfool | socomm, I just cant believe phoronix wants to install unsigned packages on linux systems, this is how window users spread virus, my goal is to get it removed untill they rewrite the app and tell people to use the package manager |
| 17:36.23 | socomm | thepreacher: you can create an alias, or simply link the /usr/bin/python to the 3.2 interpreter |
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| 17:36.44 | HelenaKitty | grothend1eck: I am aware |
| 17:36.48 | socomm | or whatever version you're trying to use |
| 17:36.53 | jordanm | thepreacher, 3.3 should migrate to jesse in a few days |
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| 17:37.23 | jesselang | Yes. migrate to me. :-) |
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| 17:37.39 | jesselang | I thought it was jessie, not jesse. |
| 17:38.03 | grothendieck | HelenaKitty: cool, you should probably run that and make sure you did not do something strange to ownership with that chown command |
| 17:38.48 | socomm | funfool: I don't even know what phoronix is |
| 17:38.59 | thepreacher | socomm: yes. When I type python3, its ver 3.2 that is invoked. 3.3 is already in jessie and I have installed it. However at the moment I can only invoke it by call python3.3. I'm trying to setup a virtualenv but there is not python3.3-pip only python3-pip which invokes python3.2 by default |
| 17:39.34 | HelenaKitty | grothendieck: The thing is... |
| 17:39.40 | HelenaKitty | the ownership is fine |
| 17:40.03 | HelenaKitty | brw-rw---T 1 root disk 8, 5 Jul 23 18:33 sda5 |
| 17:40.07 | HelenaKitty | See?! fine! |
| 17:40.11 | grothendieck | cool |
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| 17:41.46 | thepreacher | socom: thanks man. your link has a solution for me. I didn't know I could pass a specific python version when creating a virtualenv |
| 17:41.52 | funfool | socomm, app-benchmarks/phoronix-test-suite look at my pastebin, would you allow a 3rd party app to install packages on your system? http://pastebin.com/v1vRJUku |
| 17:42.09 | grothendieck | thepreacher: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10763440/how-to-install-python3-version-of-package-via-pip |
| 17:42.34 | funfool | socomm, And I have many of those packages already installed |
| 17:43.14 | HelenaKitty | :/ |
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| 17:44.03 | funfool | I am just curious if this is duplicated on debian, I really think it is a horrible package to have around |
| 17:44.34 | jhutchins | Does Linux track the date a user was added to the system? |
| 17:45.06 | funfool | jhutchins, is why we keep nsa around to do that for us |
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| 17:47.43 | funfool | anyways, I have to go and nice chatting with you all |
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| 17:49.43 | riceandbeans | can I dpkg -i a package if it's an upgrade to an existing package? |
| 17:49.51 | riceandbeans | or must I remove it first? |
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| 17:50.33 | Aramur | jhutchins: there is no bulletproof way, but a good start is to check the date of the oldest file in the user $HOME and the last time the user changed the login password. |
| 17:50.37 | jordanm | riceandbeans, it will upgrade |
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| 17:52.03 | socomm | ummm, if my network interface is set to DHCP can I still set my default MTU? |
| 17:52.15 | socomm | even if the DHCP server provides its own value |
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| 17:56.32 | fwisses | Hey guys, any idea why one of my interfaces is not getting an IP(v4) address? |
| 17:56.54 | fwisses | You see, I want it it be a DHCP server |
| 17:57.09 | dondelelcaro | socomm: yes, but generally speaking, you shouldn't need to bother. |
| 17:57.24 | fwisses | so I made it have a static IP by adding some lines in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:57.31 | dondelelcaro | fwisses: DHCP servers should have static addresses. |
| 17:57.54 | fwisses | dondelelcaro: I know, and I'm trying that |
| 17:58.00 | fwisses | I put |
| 17:58.07 | riceandbeans | jordanm: I'm having issues with it |
| 17:58.12 | fwisses | iface eth1 inet static |
| 17:58.32 | dondelelcaro | fwisses: put your /etc/network/interfaces into a paste site, then, so we can see it. |
| 17:58.51 | ImaLamer | http://paste.debian.net |
| 17:59.00 | fwisses | what's the programe for that, wgetpaste? |
| 17:59.31 | ImaLamer | http://paste.debian.net/paste.pl?show_template=clients |
| 18:00.02 | jordanm | riceandbeans, that's not a very detailed description of your problem |
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| 18:00.58 | ImaLamer | riceandbeans: if you are getting an error/warning with dpkg tell us what it is |
| 18:01.28 | riceandbeans | sorry, distracted by work, one sec, I'll pastebin |
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| 18:02.34 | fwisses | dondelelcaro: I'm still here, it's just taking a while |
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| 18:03.29 | riceandbeans | jordanm: ImaLamer |
| 18:03.30 | riceandbeans | http://pastebin.com/uTxuQh06 |
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| 18:03.39 | kyr0 | Hey, When performing a dist-upgrade from wheezy xfce to testing, apt pulls the entire gnome desktop... Anyone had this problem before? It is a clean install. |
| 18:03.44 | fwisses | ok, it is http://paste.debian.net/18085/ |
| 18:03.54 | socomm | dondelelcaro: what do you mean? |
| 18:04.22 | jordanm | riceandbeans, websploit-framework is not an upgrade of the package websploit |
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| 18:04.32 | jordanm | riceandbeans, it's not a true upgrade, "websploit" needs to be removed |
| 18:05.18 | ImaLamer | fwisses: have you restarted networking on this machine since editing interfaces? |
| 18:05.36 | fwisses | networking? I restarted the whole machine |
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| 18:06.54 | ImaLamer | fwisses: when you get a chance can you paste (also) the output of ifconfig? |
| 18:07.19 | socomm | fwisses: 'ifconfig eth1' |
| 18:07.35 | fwisses | I do that by "ifconfig -a | pastebin command", right? |
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| 18:07.58 | socomm | fwisses: you don't need to list all interfaces |
| 18:08.06 | fwisses | 18089 |
| 18:08.27 | fwisses | sorry, http://paste.debian.net/18089 |
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| 18:10.27 | ImaLamer | eth1 has no IP at all |
| 18:10.36 | fwisses | ImaLamer: Yes |
| 18:10.40 | qmr | I'm running Debian 7 in a VirtualBox guest, and using USB passhtrough with an external USB drive. The drive is shown in lsusb and dmesg, however I do not seem to have a device like /dev/sdb - any ideas on what I should do about this? |
| 18:11.06 | socomm | fwisses: can you paste /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 18:11.09 | fwisses | and I've no idea why, since I set it up in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:11.20 | fwisses | socomm: http://paste.debian.net/18085/ |
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| 18:12.14 | ImaLamer | fwisses: try 'ifup eth1' |
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| 18:12.34 | fwisses | O no |
| 18:12.42 | socomm | ImaLamer: I think its already up |
| 18:12.44 | socomm | fwisses: ? |
| 18:12.53 | fwisses | RTNETLINK answers: No such process |
| 18:12.55 | fwisses | Failed to bring up eth1 |
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| 18:13.19 | fwisses | I tried ifconfig eth1 down, followed by ifconfig eth1 up |
| 18:13.22 | fwisses | multiply times |
| 18:13.29 | ImaLamer | socomm: i thought it was, but wanted to see the output |
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| 18:14.18 | fwisses | Hey, I tried ifdown eth1 and got this |
| 18:14.34 | fwisses | ifdown: interface eth1 not configured |
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| 18:14.51 | fwisses | and then I tried ifup eth1 and got a different error message than the first |
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| 18:15.11 | fwisses | RTNETLINK answers: File exists |
| 18:15.13 | fwisses | Failed to bring up eth1 |
| 18:15.43 | ImaLamer | you are having an issue because you are on two different networks |
| 18:15.51 | bigbee | fwisses: how many eth0 connections have you got |
| 18:16.07 | jordanm | fwisses, the ifdown error is because eth1 is not in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:16.20 | ImaLamer | eth0 on 10.* and then this, plus your gateway for eth1 is on a different network also |
| 18:16.32 | jordanm | fwisses, the ifup issues is because ifupdown is not start about states |
| 18:16.43 | jordanm | s/start/smart/ |
| 18:17.04 | fwisses | ImaLamer: I am in two |
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| 18:17.27 | ImaLamer | eth1 is in interfaces |
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| 18:17.44 | socomm | fwisses: cat /sys/class/net/eth0/carrier |
| 18:17.48 | socomm | fwisses: cat /sys/class/net/eth1/carrier |
| 18:17.55 | socomm | fwisses: cat /sys/class/net/eth1/operstate |
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| 18:18.14 | socomm | fwisses: can you give output for those 2 |
| 18:18.15 | ImaLamer | and set to auto, which should be up when the system comes up (unless he should remove the 'auto' line on line #12?) |
| 18:18.28 | jhutchins | !paste |
| 18:18.29 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 18:18.42 | fwisses | cat /sys/class/net/eth0/carrier: 1 |
| 18:18.51 | fwisses | cat /sys/class/net/eth1/carrier: 1 |
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| 18:19.15 | fwisses | cat /sys/class/net/eth1/operstate: up |
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| 18:19.21 | dondelelcaro | fwisses: the message you're getting is almost certainly because you've stuck the gatweay on the wrong network. You also don't need a gateway, because eth0 has the default gateway already. |
| 18:19.38 | ImaLamer | right, it's a routing issue (likely) in /etc/sysconfig/network |
| 18:19.54 | fwisses | So just delete the gateway line |
| 18:19.55 | dondelelcaro | fwisses: if you delete the gateway line, and run ifdown eth1; ifup eth1; do you see the same message? |
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| 18:20.07 | socomm | fwisses: you can comment it out |
| 18:20.15 | ImaLamer | (well not in this distro) |
| 18:20.36 | ImaLamer | (ignore my comment about /etc/sysconfig/network) |
| 18:20.46 | dondelelcaro | fwisses: if you do, provide the output of ip link eth0; ip addr eth0; [If you don't have ip installed, install iproute2.] |
| 18:20.54 | fwisses | ifdown: interface eth1 not configured |
| 18:21.16 | dondelelcaro | fwisses: that's fine; you can ignore that message. |
| 18:21.20 | fwisses | RTNETLINK answers: File exists |
| 18:21.20 | fwisses | Failed to bring up eth1 |
| 18:21.43 | fwisses | but now i do have an inet4 addr |
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| 18:22.52 | ImaLamer | fwisses: also comment out the 'auto' line for eth1 |
| 18:23.07 | fwisses | I was wondering if I should pu there |
| 18:23.24 | fwisses | I kind of freaked out and added it in at the last minute |
| 18:23.24 | dondelelcaro | ImaLamer: that's not necessary. |
| 18:23.26 | ImaLamer | fwisses: i see both success and failure with that line, but try commenting it out |
| 18:23.44 | dondelelcaro | auto eth1 only tells ifupdown whether to bring up the interface when you use the -a option. |
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| 18:24.16 | ImaLamer | dondelelcaro: quite right |
| 18:24.28 | HAPPYFUNBALL | afternoon folks. how would I go about getting the proper apache-php module for php 5.3.3.7 on a wheezy machine? |
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| 18:24.35 | dondelelcaro | fwisses: ok; what is the output of ip route eth1; ip addr eth1; ip link eth1; ? what does your /etc/network/interfaces currently look like? do you still see that message if you run ifdown eth1; ifup eth1; again? |
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| 18:25.04 | fwisses | OK, commented out auto eth1, ifup/down/allaround, same as last time, have an IPv4 addr |
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| 18:25.08 | msn | what files do i remove after apt-get purge slapd, to make sure none of the ldap files/database survives on the host |
| 18:25.39 | dondelelcaro | msn: usually they're in /var/lib/slapd or similar, but you can stick the databases for ldap anywhere if you want |
| 18:25.47 | fwisses | msn: You don't want the slapd to leave a mark, haha. |
| 18:26.03 | msn | i messed up the config i want to wipe and restart |
| 18:26.13 | fwisses | Erase the evidene |
| 18:26.19 | msn | which should be easier if slapd would stop picking up old config options |
| 18:26.24 | msn | evidene? |
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| 18:26.38 | fwisses | *evidence |
| 18:27.09 | fwisses | Don't want anyone to know your computer had been slapd |
| 18:27.14 | fwisses | I'll stop now |
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| 18:29.14 | fwisses | dondelelcaro: Oh, ip route eth1 tells me eth1 is an unknown command |
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| 18:30.38 | dondelelcaro | fwisses: err, it should just be ip route; |
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| 18:31.51 | usrnix | Hi, are wheezy-updates needed? |
| 18:32.19 | dondelelcaro | usrnix: if by wheezy-updates, you mean the security.debian.org line, yes. |
| 18:32.37 | dondelelcaro | (at least, if you want security updates) |
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| 18:32.51 | fwisses | The heck? I restarted my computer and look; eth1 has no IP again |
| 18:33.03 | dondelelcaro | fwisses: that's because you commented out auto eth1;. |
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| 18:33.21 | fwisses | Oh, I was getting conflicting stuff on that |
| 18:33.41 | fwisses | Well, I commented it out, went up and down, and it still had the IPv4 addr |
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| 18:33.49 | fwisses | so it only lost it when I restarted |
| 18:34.08 | usrnix | dondelelcaro: no I mean wheezy-updates not wheezy/updates, 'previously known as volatile' |
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| 18:35.07 | dondelelcaro | usrnix: that's not necessary. |
| 18:35.35 | Sebboh | Greetings. Starting a few days ago, when I try to apt-get install packages, apt tells me that it wants to REMOVE various important packages. How can I find out WHY a given package is being selected for removal? |
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| 18:36.04 | fwisses | yeah, auto eth1 worked for me |
| 18:36.08 | fwisses | ip route |
| 18:36.12 | fwisses | oops |
| 18:36.21 | fwisses | gotta switch windows, lol |
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| 18:37.08 | dondelelcaro | Sebboh: the standard method is to examine the dependencies of the packages |
| 18:37.25 | dondelelcaro | Sebboh: but often, that means that you haven't updated or upgraded recently, or you're mixing and matching things |
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| 18:38.33 | fwisses | default via 10.0.2.2 |
| 18:38.33 | fwisses | 10.0.2.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 10.0.2.15 |
| 18:38.33 | fwisses | 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.1 |
| 18:38.39 | Crumbz | Hey guys I'm having a couple of issues with ACPID - the first is how do I handle an event that doesnt have an event file but the event registers? http://pastebin.com/UyYHL702... the second is that closing the lid doesn't register an event - even though it worked in version prior to v2. any ideas? Thanks. |
| 18:38.48 | HAPPYFUNBALL | hm |
| 18:38.54 | fwisses | should be all right, I don't need it to route anything |
| 18:39.09 | Sebboh | dondelelcaro: yeah, it's the second one: I haven't upgraded lately, much less dist-upgraded, because I was using sid for work (yeah, I know) and then the release happened and sid got all dangerous all of a sudden. |
| 18:39.22 | dondelelcaro | fwisses: that's actually correct. |
| 18:39.24 | HAPPYFUNBALL | ok, so I can't remove php5 from my machine. even if I do an apt-get remove php5, php doesn't completely uninstall. what can i do about this? |
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| 18:39.46 | fwisses | all the IPs look right |
| 18:39.58 | Crumbz | HAPPYFUNBALL: apt-get autoremove? |
| 18:40.08 | HAPPYFUNBALL | let's find out |
| 18:40.13 | fwisses | my dhcp client even did [BOLD RED "FAILED"] this time |
| 18:40.20 | fwisses | *didn't |
| 18:40.28 | Sebboh | happyfunball, you might be interested in the --purge option for apt-get. That being said, please describe what you mean by "php doesn't completely uninstall". |
| 18:40.29 | dondelelcaro | Sebboh: right. so in this case, you probably want to use aptitude or similar, and use the interactive solution finder to find a solution which upgrades the packages you need upgraded |
| 18:40.35 | fwisses | Thank you |
| 18:40.49 | dondelelcaro | Sebboh: generally speaking, if you ask for the packages to be installed, you'll get a set of packages which either have to be removed or upgraded, and sometimes removing packages is the easiest way to satisfy the permissions. |
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| 18:41.07 | fwisses | Why was it that specifying a gateway didn't allow me an IPv4 address, anyway? |
| 18:41.07 | HAPPYFUNBALL | Sebboh php -v still works and /usr/bin/php still exists |
| 18:41.24 | dondelelcaro | fwisses: because you can't have two default gateways |
| 18:41.35 | Crumbz | Anyone know anything about ACPID here? |
| 18:41.48 | dondelelcaro | HAPPYFUNBALL: because you still have php5-cli or similar installed |
| 18:41.55 | Crumbz | ^ |
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| 18:42.08 | HAPPYFUNBALL | interesting |
| 18:42.08 | HAPPYFUNBALL | ok |
| 18:42.21 | Crumbz | wildchars not work? apt-get remove php5* |
| 18:42.24 | HAPPYFUNBALL | nice! |
| 18:42.30 | ctmjr | HAPPYFUNBALL, apt-get --purge remove php* |
| 18:42.31 | HAPPYFUNBALL | <3 u |
| 18:42.32 | Sebboh | dondelelcaro: hm, ten years ago, it wasn't a good idea for me to use aptitude sometimes and apt-get sometimes--it would (rarely?) leave the dpkg database in an inconsistant state. Has that been fixed? |
| 18:43.10 | dondelelcaro | Sebboh: neither of them muck with the dpkg database ever. The main problem with them is that you used to have different autoremove settings, but now they cooperate. |
| 18:43.22 | HAPPYFUNBALL | gotta install php5 |
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| 18:44.35 | Sebboh | ... ok. I'll give aptitude a shot. Why not? This system is due for a fresh install. :P Thanks, dondelelcaro. |
| 18:44.52 | Sebboh | ...But I must say that I feel like a lumberjack about to take a bubblebath... :P |
| 18:44.53 | ompaul | Sebboh: you sticking with stable? |
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| 18:45.13 | Sebboh | ompaul: If you gotta ask, the answer is no. :) |
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| 18:45.25 | Crumbz | Anyone know anything about ACPID here? |
| 18:46.37 | ompaul | Sebboh: I do have an opinion on that, if you are going SID then only use apt-get dist-upgrade day after day :) |
| 18:46.38 | Sebboh | Crumbz: you taking a poll? Ask a specific question, and if someone knows, they will answer. Some people know a little about it, I'm sure--maybe enough to answer your question! But clearly nobody here considers themselve an expert on the subject, or they would have spoken up. Either way, specific questions get results. |
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| 18:47.28 | Crumbz | Sebboh: I did. I dont want to spam the channel with long posts |
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| 18:48.01 | Crumbz | I'm having a couple of issues with ACPID - the first is how do I handle an event that doesnt have an event file but the event registers? http://pastebin.com/UyYHL702... the second is that closing the lid doesn't register an event - even though it worked in version prior to v2. any ideas? Thanks. |
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| 18:49.18 | Sebboh | ompaul: Ok. ...I've heard something about that. For many years I used testing exclusively, then I started using sid exclusively, and until now I haven't had any trouble. (Well, aside from in the beginning...) I guess my question is, what is the different between dist-upgrade and upgrade? Previously I'd only used dist-upgrade after changing my apt sources from stable to testing, or from testing to sid. |
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| 18:50.15 | ompaul | Sebboh: apt-get dist-upgrade (A) upgrades everything to new in the repos on a day by day basis |
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| 18:50.28 | ompaul | Sebboh: upgrade will not do that and will leave you in a bad place :) |
| 18:50.37 | dondelelcaro | Sebboh: the main difference is whether packages are allowed to be removed in order to complete the upgrade |
| 18:50.39 | ompaul | Sebboh: held packages for nearly every |
| 18:51.01 | ompaul | s/every/ever and what dondelelcaro said - the dist- cleans out old packages |
| 18:51.18 | dondelelcaro | Sebboh: but as always, since you're running sid, you have to know what it is doing, and check to make sure it makes sense |
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| 18:51.34 | dondelelcaro | it's not unusual for sid to not be upgradeable for periods of time. |
| 18:51.39 | Crumbz | doesn't dist-upgrade install packages and kernels that ae being rolled out in the next syetm versions? |
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| 18:52.10 | dondelelcaro | Crumbz: it can, but so can upgrade. |
| 18:52.48 | Sebboh | I'm pretty sure that if I hadn't shut off my sid system for months, during which there was a Debian release, I'd not be in this situation now. :) |
| 18:53.25 | ompaul | Sebboh: post your repos into http://paste.debian.net and lets have a look |
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| 18:57.24 | Sebboh | ompaul: thanks. I didn't know that this machine had 'experimental' enabled my sources.list, too... der... :) |
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| 18:58.08 | ompaul | Sebboh: should be of little consequence |
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| 18:58.25 | ompaul | unless you did a lot of -t very recently |
| 18:58.32 | Sebboh | Really? What is -t ? |
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| 18:59.32 | ompaul | consider it to be like target this package only from the repo mentioned |
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| 18:59.53 | Sebboh | after removing the "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib" (and the corresponding deb-src line) and doing an update, I can now install package 'dia' without removing any packages. |
| 18:59.53 | Th0masR0ss | When I try to boot my computer it doesn't go into a DM or Xfce, t just displays a blank screen. |
| 18:59.57 | msn | this is really annoying trying to clear slapd from teh system, i have looked in every file, where in the world does slapd keep its db when its uninstalled |
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| 19:00.35 | ompaul | Sebboh: using apt-get dist-upgrade how do you fare? |
| 19:01.36 | ompaul | Sebboh: you don't want to go totally out of kilter it may require a few apt-get -f installs and apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrades to get to normality but it usually returns in a couple of hours also keep an eye on transitions |
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| 19:03.56 | Sebboh | See, this is my work computer. ... er, duh, I can just image the whole danged thing, it's a vm on a windows host. |
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| 19:04.22 | Th0masR0ss | If anyone can help me It would be awesome |
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| 19:06.32 | moxie | jordanm, its almost done zeroing! |
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| 19:10.15 | Sebboh | Everyone, thank you for your help. Things are looking good. :) |
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| 19:10.21 | Th0masR0ss | Hello? |
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| 19:11.46 | Th0masR0ss | can anyone even see my chat? |
| 19:12.01 | Brigo | Th0masR0ss: i can read you. |
| 19:12.27 | Brigo | Th0masR0ss: just ask the question. :-) |
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| 19:13.34 | Th0masR0ss | Brigo: I get just a blank screen after a bunch of [Ok]s. no DE, no DM, no nothing. I'm on a fresh install of Xfce |
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| 19:14.07 | Th0masR0ss | I did get GRUB. |
| 19:15.32 | jhutchins | Th0masR0ss: Are you at a console login prompt? |
| 19:15.45 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: nope. |
| 19:15.55 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: just a completely blank screen. |
| 19:16.04 | jhutchins | Th0masR0ss: Not even a blinking cursor? |
| 19:16.12 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: nope |
| 19:16.16 | jhutchins | Th0masR0ss: What if you press Ctrl-Alt-F1? |
| 19:16.32 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: nothing |
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| 19:16.59 | jhutchins | Th0masR0ss: Do you have another computer you can check it from? Ping? Ssh? |
| 19:17.14 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: wireless card firmware was missing |
| 19:17.31 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: no Ethernet available |
| 19:17.42 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: it is however on |
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| 19:17.53 | ImaLamer | msn: could it be in mysql? |
| 19:17.55 | jhutchins | Th0masR0ss: You'll need to reboot to single user mode then. |
| 19:18.04 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: how? |
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| 19:19.11 | Th0masR0ss | Oh msg'd dpkg |
| 19:20.07 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: on recovery mode, enter seems to do nothing |
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| 19:20.14 | Th0masR0ss | when I Type in the root password |
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| 19:22.28 | msn | ImaLamer: nope |
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| 19:23.03 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: try ctrl alt f2 just in case - you might see a terminal there |
| 19:23.12 | Th0masR0ss | ok |
| 19:23.33 | Th0masR0ss | Nothing |
| 19:23.57 | ompaul | one less thing to test |
| 19:23.59 | Th0masR0ss | maybe my keyboard firmware isn't there? |
| 19:24.03 | ompaul | eh .. no |
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| 19:24.31 | Th0masR0ss | Ok |
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| 19:24.38 | ompaul | what kind of video card do you have - and are you in a virtual machine and what CD did you try to install from? |
| 19:25.07 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: amd video card, no vm, Xfce-cd1 |
| 19:25.19 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: stable testing or something else? |
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| 19:25.33 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: stable, 7.1 |
| 19:25.53 | ompaul | !ati |
| 19:25.54 | dpkg | To use an ATI/AMD graphics card with Debian, ask me about <radeon>, <fglrx>. Installing proprietary drivers from amd.com (i.e. with the ATI Driver Installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati (irc.freenode.net). |
| 19:26.13 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: /msg dpkg radeon and learn more |
| 19:26.55 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: mk. How do I get to a terminal? |
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| 19:27.31 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: how old is the hardware - is it trying to dual boot with anything else? |
| 19:27.49 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: oh good |
| 19:27.50 | Th0masR0ss | I got a terminal. |
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| 19:29.38 | DoctorWedgeworth | hey, I'm trying to install oprofile on Squeeze (kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64) but I can't modprobe oprofile, it gives me oprofile: Unknown symbol __get_user_pages_fast in dmesg. Can anyone please point me in the right direction? |
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| 19:30.23 | jhutchins | Th0masR0ss: How? |
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| 19:30.46 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: No packages will be installed, upgraded or removed" when I use "aptitude install xserver-xorg-video-radeon |
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| 19:31.17 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: so it's there |
| 19:31.29 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: recovery mode |
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| 19:31.51 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: seems so |
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| 19:32.43 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: startx brings me to that same blank screen |
| 19:32.45 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: I wouldn't know about controlling a box from the recovery termina |
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| 19:33.04 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: I doubt that recovery would let you start it |
| 19:33.15 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: hang on a couple of minutes |
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| 19:33.28 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: ok |
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| 19:37.25 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: I had an idea but it didn't work - so that was useful - no wild goose chase there for you |
| 19:38.03 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: did you install firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 19:39.47 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: sec |
| 19:39.57 | wcwrel | is there a way to pipe data and display it at same time, "git branch && git branch | myapp" works, but what about "git branch | myapp" and display output while piping it |
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| 19:40.32 | ompaul | wcwrel: | tee is that what you want? |
| 19:40.52 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: its not there. |
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| 19:41.00 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: make it be there |
| 19:41.10 | wcwrel | ompaul, i think so, but how do i use it? |
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| 19:41.50 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: i don't have any Internet on that computer |
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| 19:42.58 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:43.14 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: ooch wire it up and what happens? |
| 19:43.41 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: doing installing wireless over sneaker or usb net is not fun |
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| 19:46.33 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: basically to get that stuff working you are going to be begging pool.debian.net to expose what you need to you easy - and while it's perfect for one or two packages it is a whole different game when you get to more than one or two packages |
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| 19:47.10 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: sadly I don't have any Internet available to that computer |
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| 19:47.54 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: then it's not going to be something I can even suggest you get anywhere near trying to do if you want to keep your sanity and not spend ages getting it into working other |
| 19:48.35 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: I wouldn't have time to advise you on that one - I strongly suggest you get it to an ethernet connection or download all the dvds (you never know what you want) and work from there |
| 19:48.43 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: can I put the wireless firmware on a USB and install it on my computer somehow? |
| 19:49.08 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: way more complex than that - but you can start by reading what I get the bot to send you |
| 19:49.21 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: ok |
| 19:49.59 | ompaul | to see what you are up against do this get a usb stick and firmware-linux-nonfree (you are going to need that I'd wager so might as well get it first) |
| 19:50.35 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: can I get Internet through a USB connection? |
| 19:50.38 | ompaul | you install it using root and the command from the directory it lives in of dpkg -i firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 19:50.55 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: you can get the firmware first it might help you |
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| 19:51.10 | Th0masR0ss | Ok |
| 19:51.41 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: after that if you have usb wwireless dongle then you can do something using the same tools as I pointed to already |
| 19:51.49 | ompaul | Th0masR0ss: and there I have to leave you must do some work |
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| 20:08.45 | Th0masR0ss | ompaul: my wireless card firmware and such is installed. |
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| 20:10.37 | dddebian | I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 and not quite sure which one to use |
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| 20:19.50 | Th0masR0ss | Awesome, I have Internet |
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| 20:21.35 | ImaLamer | dddebian: where did you learn you had the BCM43142? |
| 20:21.46 | dddebian | lspci |
| 20:22.10 | dddebian | 07:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01) |
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| 20:22.18 | ImaLamer | dddebian: k |
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| 20:23.30 | ImaLamer | that firmware might be outside the normal debian repos |
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| 20:24.24 | musca | !BCM43142 |
| 20:24.25 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM43142 is a hybrid 802.11n and Bluetooth 4.0 device. Its wireless LAN component (PCI ID 14e4:4365, incorrectly identified as BCM4365 by Broadcom's proprietary driver) is only supported by a Dell-specific release of <broadcom-sta> at this time, see Debian bug #688823 for more information. |
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| 20:25.22 | dddebian | musca: So, how do I fix this? |
| 20:26.52 | ImaLamer | dddebian: there is a debian package built by someone here http://jas.gemnetworks.com/wireless-bcm43142/ (though I nor *anyone* provide any warranty on it's safety or general risk) |
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| 20:27.30 | musca | ,bug #688823 |
| 20:27.31 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/688823 in broadcom-sta-dkms (open): «broadcom-sta-dkms: to version >= 6.20.55.19 (r300276)»; severity: normal; opened: 2012-09-25; last modified: 2013-07-07. |
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| 20:31.12 | dddebian | I have scanned the .deb file, and am installing it now. |
| 20:31.24 | blz3773 | yesterday I accidentally open a pdf with okular from root shell. |
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| 20:31.45 | blz3773 | after that both my chromium and google-chrom are causing kernel panic |
| 20:32.17 | nkuttler | \o/ |
| 20:32.17 | blz3773 | I don't know whether the two incidents are related. Even after compiling and installing the latest kernel, the panic still happens. |
| 20:32.33 | blz3773 | I am thinking it might be the kernel.. now I am not sure.. it could be the hardware ? |
| 20:32.39 | yitz_ | Is there anything about instaling an Ubuntu package on Debian that could cause damage (other than potential dependency conflicts)? |
| 20:32.58 | nkuttler | yitz_: i already told you |
| 20:33.13 | yitz_ | nkuttler: you told me there's likely to be a dependency issue. Nothing else |
| 20:33.19 | funfool | blz3773, that is not caused from pdf, get back to the basics to repair |
| 20:33.38 | blz3773 | The panic message says "Machine check: Processor context corrupt" |
| 20:33.44 | yitz_ | nkuttler: some packages, eg ddclient, wouldn't introduce any dependency issues |
| 20:34.00 | blz3773 | basics ? |
| 20:34.04 | nkuttler | yitz_: total nonsense |
| 20:34.14 | nkuttler | yitz_: Depends: perl5, debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, lsb-base (>= 3.1), initscripts (>= 2.86) |
| 20:34.25 | ImaLamer | dddebian: use the repo at gemnetworks, thus far it's the only *debian* package for that firmware |
| 20:34.38 | yitz_ | nkuttler: That still fails to address my question. If you're not going to answer my question, you can shut up |
| 20:34.58 | funfool | blz3773, boot from live cd and see if same error |
| 20:35.16 | nkuttler | yitz_: you keep repeating a stupid question and only generate useless noise in here |
| 20:35.43 | blz3773 | funfool, will try that. |
| 20:35.49 | yitz_ | nkuttler: one line isn't a lot of noise. Repeating and arguing that my question is invalid while not remotely answering it generates much more noise |
| 20:36.04 | ctmjr | Ubuntu is not supported here or questions related to ubuntu |
| 20:36.11 | nkuttler | yitz_: put me on /ignore if you don't like it |
| 20:36.12 | yitz_ | nkuttler: If you don't have an answer to my question, stop replying to it |
| 20:36.19 | blz3773 | funfool, I have never been able to open pdf from root shell but okular open it. |
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| 20:36.25 | yitz_ | Good idea, that |
| 20:36.31 | nkuttler | yitz_: i answered your question actually, you just ignore the right answer |
| 20:36.49 | yitz_ | ctmjr: My question is about installing a package on a Debian machine |
| 20:37.24 | nkuttler | yitz_: your question is "will there be any breakage, ignoring that the system will be completely broken in the first place" |
| 20:37.36 | yitz_ | nkuttler: and what is broken about the system? |
| 20:37.53 | nkuttler | i told you several times |
| 20:38.04 | nkuttler | just go ahead and try it, like i care |
| 20:38.05 | funfool | blz3773, I will be happy to help you with any linux issue I can, But I do not know em all :D |
| 20:39.46 | blz3773 | funfool, sure. thnx for your suggestion. I will use livecd to debug. If it still persists, I will just get a new box. |
| 20:41.54 | Th0masR0ss | My mouse driver appears to be missing. |
| 20:42.00 | funfool | anyone care to point me to the debian dev chat ... seems it was some stupid channel |
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| 20:42.51 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: does that mean you need a *pointer*? |
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| 20:43.00 | ImaLamer | apologizes |
| 20:43.05 | funfool | yup :( |
| 20:43.10 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: haha. I can't now my mouse. |
| 20:43.14 | OptimizedCoder | I seem to have something setup wrong - my hostname does not resolve at all in my local network - I can access by the IP though |
| 20:43.23 | Th0masR0ss | s/now/move |
| 20:43.47 | OptimizedCoder | /etc/resolv.conf seems to point to the correct nameservers... |
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| 20:44.11 | OptimizedCoder | Is this all controlled by a user/system process- can I try restarting it ? |
| 20:44.15 | ImaLamer | OptimizedCoder: do those nameservers know about this machine? |
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| 20:45.17 | OptimizedCoder | ImaLamer, it's internal to my company - and the nameservers are reachable - Are you contemplating the nameserver rejecting the host? |
| 20:45.59 | nkuttler | OptimizedCoder: dig @nameserver host |
| 20:46.14 | OptimizedCoder | nkuttler, let me check |
| 20:46.23 | nkuttler | OptimizedCoder: dig is in dnsutils |
| 20:46.27 | ImaLamer | thank you nkuttler, i was making a PB&J |
| 20:46.41 | OptimizedCoder | wants a PB&J now |
| 20:46.42 | nkuttler | ImaLamer: ? |
| 20:46.55 | nkuttler | oh, nm |
| 20:47.49 | funfool | OK, my real bitch is with phoronix, I believe it is the dumbest app ever, it wants your root password to install packages, I have successfully got it removed from gentoo, if you idiots want it in your tree, coolies |
| 20:48.24 | funfool | can I have a lime with that? |
| 20:48.24 | nkuttler | ,v phoronix |
| 20:48.25 | judd | No package named 'phoronix' was found in i386. |
| 20:48.33 | nkuttler | funfool: what can we help you with? |
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| 20:49.57 | Th0masR0ss | Can anyone help me fix my touchpad? |
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| 20:51.39 | funfool | nkuttler, thank you, My only question was/is app-benchmarks/phoronix-test-suite is this available on debian also? |
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| 20:52.12 | nkuttler | funfool: it is, as phoronix-test-suite |
| 20:53.06 | funfool | nkuttler, any package that wants to modify and install packages on my linux system , I want to remove it from the tree |
| 20:53.22 | nkuttler | funfool: see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717536 |
| 20:53.35 | nkuttler | funfool: that should either get fixed or the package removed |
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| 20:54.18 | funfool | nkuttler, here is my bug report https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=477798 |
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| 20:55.12 | nkuttler | funfool: well that seems related |
| 20:55.32 | nkuttler | funfool: the debian bug is marked "critical", that's the most severe bug level there is |
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| 20:55.50 | nkuttler | ,v phoronix-test-suite |
| 20:55.51 | judd | Package: phoronix-test-suite on i386 -- wheezy/contrib: 3.8.0-1; jessie/contrib: 4.6.0-1; sid/contrib: 4.6.0-1 |
| 20:56.17 | KDank | questionn |
| 20:56.26 | KDank | why is it asking for my installation disk to install shutter? |
| 20:56.28 | funfool | nkuttler, I think is cross platform and not gentoo or debian related |
| 20:56.31 | nkuttler | funfool: if you check the bug report the package maintainer is also listed, and you can email to the bug report |
| 20:56.50 | ImaLamer | KDank: you need to remove the CD-ROM from sources |
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| 20:56.58 | nkuttler | funfool: yes, it's the same issue across platforms, hence i said related |
| 20:57.03 | KDank | how would I go about doing that? |
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| 20:57.54 | nkuttler | KDank: aptitude why <pkg> |
| 20:58.13 | nkuttler | oh, right, probably what ImaLamer said |
| 20:58.14 | KDank | ty |
| 20:58.33 | ImaLamer | KDank: as root edit /etc/apt/sources.list and either comment out or remove the apropos line |
| 20:58.40 | funfool | nkuttler, I think it is important to send a message, remove it from the tree and not cause dammage to my system |
| 20:58.41 | P0bailey | Is there any free services where would be possible to host a personal debian repo? Something like launchpad? |
| 20:59.03 | nkuttler | funfool: yes, feel free to add to that bug report |
| 20:59.23 | KDank | okay |
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| 20:59.50 | MasterBot | Hi |
| 20:59.53 | MasterBot | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=105925 Please help |
| 20:59.55 | nkuttler | P0bailey: reprepro? |
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| 21:00.11 | Th0masR0ss | My mouse isn't moving. Can anyone help? |
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| 21:00.21 | funfool | yup, nkuttler thank you, as a non debian user I could not duplicate, but I still luvs you :D |
| 21:00.45 | P0bailey | nkuttler, I mean a hosting space |
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| 21:02.59 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: we would need more info, what type of mouse/trackpad, etc |
| 21:03.04 | nkuttler | P0bailey: no, that's against the idea behind debian |
| 21:03.18 | MasterBot | Could some one please help me |
| 21:03.26 | P0bailey | nkuttler, I now it :) |
| 21:03.30 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad |
| 21:03.31 | ImaLamer | P0bailey: you are essentially looking for a free web or ftp host |
| 21:03.52 | MasterBot | Free Web host? |
| 21:03.59 | MasterBot | Try bugs3.com |
| 21:04.04 | nkuttler | P0bailey: there are some sites that offer debian packages, but they are all broken in some way and i don't know if they accept random packages from random debs |
| 21:04.07 | SerajewelKS | is there a SIP proxy in debian that supports things like voicemail, as well as multiple simultaneous forwarding? (e.g. someone calls one address, the proxy alerts three other addresses at the same time, the first one to answer gets the call.) |
| 21:04.08 | MasterBot | or hostyd |
| 21:04.20 | SerajewelKS | i have been using asterisk, but it's just huge, and a pain in the ass to configure |
| 21:04.22 | OptimizedCoder | ImaLamer, nkuttler - the DIG repsonses for both my hostname and my ip-adress - to the nameserver, seem to be fine |
| 21:04.43 | nkuttler | OptimizedCoder: um, well, can you ping <host> then? |
| 21:04.44 | truexfan81 | anyone had any luck getting nginx to do https on wheezy? |
| 21:04.44 | P0bailey | ImaLamer, nkuttler thanks for the advise , I will use my server. |
| 21:04.44 | OptimizedCoder | Like I asked - is there a service that I can try restarting - > Like hte BIND server perhaps? |
| 21:04.54 | OptimizedCoder | nkuttler, ping nameserver, yes |
| 21:04.58 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: is that the right information? |
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| 21:05.02 | nkuttler | OptimizedCoder: no, the host you want to resove |
| 21:05.07 | nkuttler | resolve |
| 21:05.09 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: yes. do you have a question about it, or are you taking a poll? |
| 21:05.14 | P0bailey | ImaLamer, nkuttler I was asking it because I'm working on this project http://www.smoothsec.org |
| 21:05.34 | truexfan81 | yeah how was it successful? i followed the guide on the nginx site, browser just times out |
| 21:05.40 | OptimizedCoder | nkuttler, hmm ping for the hostname works, but it is of xxx-debian.WORKGROUP |
| 21:05.48 | ImaLamer | OptimizedCoder: use nslookup on said domain/name |
| 21:06.30 | P0bailey | ImaLamer, nkuttler and I have to distribute the custom made packages. |
| 21:06.48 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: i'm using the same in my laptop without additional configuration |
| 21:06.53 | OptimizedCoder | ImaLamer, well, the ip/hostname is pingable from my debian box - it proabably has to do with te samba share setting then |
| 21:06.56 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: seems to work for me: https://chrishowie.com/ |
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| 21:07.05 | OptimizedCoder | * I meant pingable from another windows box |
| 21:07.09 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: is port 443 open on the server's firewall? |
| 21:07.45 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: I'm not able to move my mouse. |
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| 21:07.50 | truexfan81 | SerajewelKS: idk, i haven't messed with the firewall, not sure how to over ssh |
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| 21:08.12 | truexfan81 | i know i didn't have to do anything to the firewall to have nginx work with http on port 80 |
| 21:08.17 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: I have a power button on my trackpad and a bios setting |
| 21:08.37 | ImaLamer | truexfan81: man iptables |
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| 21:09.48 | ImaLamer | truexfan81: (look at the man page in regards to listing the firewall rules) |
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| 21:09.53 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: can you telnet to the server on port 443? |
| 21:10.01 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: (from a different box) |
| 21:10.25 | ImaLamer | OptimizedCoder: i'm not sure where you are having the issue then |
| 21:10.34 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: I don't. |
| 21:10.37 | ImaLamer | (or what the issue is now) |
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| 21:11.07 | OptimizedCoder | ImaLamer, the debian machine can be pinged form another windows machine on the same network using the hostname (so it does not seem to be a DNS issue) |
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| 21:11.46 | OptimizedCoder | ImaLamer, however, I'm not able to access the samba shares on the same computer using //hostname/share - but able to do so using //ip/share |
| 21:12.02 | truexfan81 | SerajewelKS: no i can't, when set to telnet to it on that port the putty window vanishes |
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| 21:12.31 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: wait a bit, you should get an error message shortly |
| 21:12.37 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: probably "connection timed out" |
| 21:12.37 | epretorious | Simple question: Can I use dd with the 7.1.0 DVD to create USB installation media? |
| 21:12.45 | epretorious | e.g., # dd if=debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso of=/dev/sdb |
| 21:12.57 | epretorious | Or will I need to use Unetbootin? |
| 21:13.03 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: dpkg --get-selections | grep syn |
| 21:13.23 | foldy | hello I have problem with installing wheeze on Dell poweredge 3250, it wrotes on installation that no common CDROM drive was detected. |
| 21:13.26 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: do you have the xorg package installed for the trackpad? |
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| 21:13.39 | foldy | do you know where to get the firmware ? |
| 21:13.40 | MasterBot | Hello http://bpaste.net/show/nvJCLSVnG4EYyiBHQtdH/ |
| 21:13.55 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics? |
| 21:13.58 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: this seems like it is a firewall issue then, not nginx |
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| 21:14.48 | musca | !tell epretorious about hybrid iso |
| 21:14.50 | ImaLamer | OptimizedCoder: windows fails to see it's name? is it set in the samba config? |
| 21:15.09 | epretorious | musca: hybrid iso? |
| 21:15.11 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: right |
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| 21:15.58 | epretorious | Thanks, musca! |
| 21:16.06 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: http://paste.debian.net/18117 |
| 21:16.55 | ImaLamer | OptimizedCoder: you need to set the netbios name in the smb.conf and also give windows time to find it |
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| 21:17.43 | OptimizedCoder | ImaLamer, hmm let me look into it. Thanks a lot for all the help so far, ImaLamer - Much appreciated |
| 21:18.09 | ImaLamer | OptimizedCoder: also it needs to have remote announce set to announce to your subnet |
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| 21:18.18 | ImaLamer | (I do believe) |
| 21:18.57 | Crumbz | can anyone suggest a package to auto mount usb sticks? usbmount won't pass options uid, gid for vfat volumes |
| 21:19.10 | foldy | it happends on netinst too... |
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| 21:20.48 | truexfan81 | SerajewelKS: still running default iptables settings, so according to it everything is open |
| 21:21.07 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: did you get that pastebin? |
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| 21:21.14 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: could try a tcptraceroute from some other *nix host to the server and see where it drops off |
| 21:21.33 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: yes, it's installed so i'm not sure what else to check, one sec |
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| 21:21.48 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: ok |
| 21:21.54 | truexfan81 | too bad my other linux machine is 10miles away right now, any way i can do this from win7? |
| 21:22.34 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: were you not seeing errors earlier in dmseg related to this touchpad? |
| 21:22.48 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: I didn't look. |
| 21:23.03 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: you can try http://tracetcp.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 21:23.36 | ImaLamer | oh ... does 'dmesg | grep syn' have output similar to psmouse serio1: synaptics: Touchpad model: 1, fw: 6.2, id: 0x1a0b1, caps: 0xa04713/0x200000/0x0 |
| 21:23.46 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: run one on port 80 and the other on 443, see at what hop the output differs |
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| 21:23.58 | g105b | Please could someone let me know how to rename all files in a directory, replacing the first ocurrence of a hyphen with a colon? |
| 21:24.34 | ImaLamer | g105b: find and replace file renaming might be best solved in #bash |
| 21:24.49 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: http://paste.debian.net/18119 |
| 21:24.55 | abrotman | g105b: man rename |
| 21:25.29 | SerajewelKS | g105b: rename -n 's/-/:/' * # remove -n after testing that it works they way you want |
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| 21:25.49 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: way to help him fish ... |
| 21:26.11 | truexfan81 | SerajewelKS: also one thing to note, this pc is on the same side of the router as the server machine, browser also times out when the internal ip of the server machine is used |
| 21:26.29 | SerajewelKS | if i didn't know perl, i wouldn't relish reading 'man perlre' to accomplish a simple task either :( |
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| 21:26.59 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: presumably using http instead of https works? |
| 21:27.12 | truexfan81 | correct |
| 21:27.12 | g105b | SerajewelKS: amazingly simple. Thanks! |
| 21:28.37 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: if the server is on another network segment, perhaps that router is blocking the traffic. "close everything and open what is required" (an application of the principle of least privilege) is common IT policy, so the router in front of the server room might be blocking the traffic. |
| 21:28.59 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: its a bit similar |
| 21:29.03 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: unless you are on the same subnet with the server, some router could be blocking the traffic |
| 21:29.29 | truexfan81 | SerajewelKS: it is the same subnet |
| 21:29.39 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: I can only say to investigate Xorg logs in /var/log for errors |
| 21:29.55 | truexfan81 | SerajewelKS: server ip 192.168.1.2, pc ip 192.168.1.3 |
| 21:30.06 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: can the server connect to itself on 127.0.0.1? what about on 192.168.1.2? |
| 21:30.26 | truexfan81 | connect to itself as in ping command? |
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| 21:30.54 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: paste for me the output of 'grep syn /var/log/Xorg.0.log' |
| 21:31.38 | truexfan81 | SerajewelKS: if i do the ping command for https://127.0.0.1 it says unknown host |
| 21:31.53 | ImaLamer | truexfan81: do you have nmap installed? |
| 21:32.11 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: its empty |
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| 21:32.52 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: nothing is returned |
| 21:32.55 | truexfan81 | ImaLamer: just checked, no i don't |
| 21:33.20 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: as in telnet |
| 21:33.24 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: telnet 127.0.0.1 443 |
| 21:33.47 | truexfan81 | Trying 127.0.0.1... |
| 21:33.48 | truexfan81 | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 21:33.57 | ImaLamer | truexfan81: install nmap and 'nmap -sT 192.168.1.2' and the other ip's from various locations to see if you can find where it's not seeing it as open |
| 21:33.57 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: well there you go, nothing is listening on port 443 |
| 21:34.33 | SerajewelKS | truexfan81: at least not on 127.0.0.1. now try 192.168.1.2 |
| 21:35.24 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: paste for me the output of 'grep syn /var/log/Xorg.*' then |
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| 21:36.43 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: http://paste.debian.net/18121 |
| 21:37.44 | foldy | problem solved with USB cdrom |
| 21:38.12 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: what have you changed that it was once found and now is not? |
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| 21:38.46 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: nothing. |
| 21:38.47 | Th0masR0ss | Hm. |
| 21:39.31 | Th0masR0ss | I've installed gsynaptics, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics-dev |
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| 21:41.04 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: what effect does restarting X have? |
| 21:41.48 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: nothing |
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| 21:43.00 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: is it my xorg? |
| 21:43.04 | Th0masR0ss | .conf? |
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| 21:44.20 | ImaLamer | there is a conf file for the synaptics pad too |
| 21:44.40 | ImaLamer | i can't find known issues with that laptop and the conf/package however |
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| 21:45.42 | Th0masR0ss | Hm |
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| 21:46.07 | ImaLamer | so i'm not sure why xorg isn't finding and implementing this pad on start |
| 21:46.09 | angs | could anyone suggest me a /etc/init.d script template for debian lenny? |
| 21:46.31 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: Xorg :1 -configure doesn't work either. |
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| 21:47.11 | boycottg00gle | angs: /etc/init.d/README |
| 21:47.26 | ctmjr | angs, there's one in /etc/init.d |
| 21:47.48 | ctmjr | angs, it is called skeleton |
| 21:47.55 | boycottg00gle | ah sorry |
| 21:48.00 | angs | thank you |
| 21:48.16 | boycottg00gle | thought it was the README |
| 21:48.24 | ImaLamer | does ifup itself handle dhcp requests (i assume based on dhcp being set in interfaces)? |
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| 21:48.46 | ImaLamer | i.e. are extraneous dhcp clients not needed in simple setups? |
| 21:48.51 | angs | if a program start by a /etc/init.d script, is there a way that the program would not be executed as root? |
| 21:49.44 | angs | or all programs started by /etc/init.d are executed as root for sure? |
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| 21:52.21 | SerajewelKS | angs: the initscript is executed as root, but the script might start the daemon as a different user, or the daemon itself might setuid() to a less-privileged user |
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| 21:53.50 | SerajewelKS | angs: for example, apache (and many other httpds) will bind to port 80 while running as root (since port 80 is privileged) and then setuid() to nobody/www-data. it can still make use of the bound socket after dropping privileges. |
| 21:54.08 | angs | SerajewelKS, is it possible to define on LSBInitScript that the program will have a highest priviledge? |
| 21:55.01 | SerajewelKS | "define on LSBInitScript?" |
| 21:55.08 | angs | http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
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| 21:55.30 | angs | or if I use the script on http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28 is it possible to define it there? |
| 21:55.43 | angs | the root privilege |
| 21:55.59 | SerajewelKS | i'm not an operator of either site. but wiki.debian.org is a wiki, so if you want it fixed then fix it -- you can edit that page. |
| 21:56.54 | angs | I don't know much about these scripts, that's why I am seeking advice about them |
| 21:57.10 | ImaLamer | angs: is your goal to have the script run as root? |
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| 21:57.31 | angs | yes but the program should be run as a daemon |
| 21:57.47 | ImaLamer | angs: if so you should test first having the script with root ownership and +x |
| 21:57.48 | angs | I am using the bash script on http://werxltd.com/wp/2012/01/05/simple-init-d-script-template/ |
| 21:57.48 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: http://paste.debian.net/18131 |
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| 21:59.32 | angs | I did chmod +x program, and use the bash script that I pasted lastly, it works fine |
| 21:59.47 | Guest1552 | Does anyone know why the Wheezy installer used grub 1.99.x instead of grub 2.x? |
| 21:59.57 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: also http://paste.debian.net/18133 |
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| 22:00.25 | angs | I just wanted to make sure that it has the root privilege when it call a system call |
| 22:01.01 | angs | is it possible to see what privilege does a daemon have? |
| 22:01.07 | ImaLamer | angs: root will run it on boot |
| 22:02.07 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: interesting why it unloads the module at the end line |
| 22:02.25 | ImaLamer | angs: top/htop should show what user is running the process |
| 22:02.25 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: yeah |
| 22:02.31 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: does yours do that? |
| 22:02.37 | james41382 | I decided to reinstall Wheezy because I didn't configure the file systems with encryption, but this time around the grub screen looks different. There is no background picture |
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| 22:03.44 | angs | thank you |
| 22:05.24 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: no, and i see various reasons via googl'n why it might |
| 22:05.56 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: ok. |
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| 22:09.59 | ImaLamer | Th0masR0ss: i'm running out of ideas |
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| 22:10.12 | Th0masR0ss | ImaLamer: as am I. |
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| 22:11.55 | Th0masR0ss | wat the he k |
| 22:11.57 | Th0masR0ss | heck |
| 22:11.59 | Th0masR0ss | it works |
| 22:12.05 | Th0masR0ss | What the hell did ido |
| 22:12.32 | Th0masR0ss | Ctrl alt f5 |
| 22:12.35 | ImaLamer | good thing |
| 22:12.51 | Th0masR0ss | lol |
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| 22:19.38 | james41382 | I installed wheezy about a month ago and it was working fine dual booting with windows 8, but i realized that i hadn't encrypted the linux partitions so i decided to reinstall, but now grub looks different and it doesn't show windows 8 |
| 22:19.42 | james41382 | Any ideas? |
| 22:23.20 | daemonkeeper | Maybe you overwrote all of your disk, and so Windows? :) |
| 22:23.35 | ImaLamer | how can i show what file is at an inode on a particular disk? |
| 22:23.58 | ImaLamer | (dmesg gives me an error on dev=00:06, inode=2751) |
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| 22:25.07 | Azrael_- | ImaLamer: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/getting-file-name-from-inode-number-532026/ |
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| 22:27.22 | ImaLamer | so i should man ls ... sorry |
| 22:27.48 | xsamurai | Installed debian wheezy on a couple servers and upon reboot they seem to get stuck in an endless call trace loop until I connect via serial and they continue to boot: http://pastebin.com/pa9D4gKq |
| 22:28.15 | james41382 | daemonkeeper: no i have it mounted now and i can still see all the data is there. |
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| 22:28.39 | james41382 | daemonkeeper: i read a bit. i ran os-prober, but it doesn't show anything. |
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| 22:29.49 | funfool | ImaLamer, does fdisk -l show what you want? |
| 22:29.58 | epretorious | ImaLamer: find . -inum [inode-number] |
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| 22:30.28 | ImaLamer | I used: ls -ilR /* | grep inode# |
| 22:30.39 | xsamurai | here are my grub and inittab configurations for serial, maybe they are causing the issue http://pastebin.com/LuUqPHMP |
| 22:31.30 | james41382 | daemonkeeper: I forgot to mark the partition bootable. lol. |
| 22:31.37 | ImaLamer | funfool: well, i know the file is on sda6 once i saw the file name |
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| 22:32.06 | ImaLamer | now i'm wondering how troublesome "audit: name_count maxed, losing inode data: dev=00:06, inode=2751" is |
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| 22:33.56 | datguise | xsamurai, try update-grub |
| 22:34.43 | xsamurai | datguise: thanks trying it now |
| 22:36.12 | ImaLamer | unrelated dumb question - how do i force one module over another? |
| 22:36.44 | xsamurai | remove one add add the other |
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| 22:37.03 | ImaLamer | i've not had to actually do it in years, but cant' i just blacklist one? |
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| 22:37.38 | xsamurai | yes |
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| 22:39.08 | ShaggyInc | re |
| 22:39.15 | ShaggyInc | so ubuntuforums got hacked a while ago |
| 22:39.37 | ShaggyInc | everone seems to blame canonical |
| 22:39.48 | Vicissitude | http://pastebin.com/817S8sgt Could someone explain what would cause this error? It only happened since chromium 28 came down the pipe |
| 22:39.50 | ShaggyInc | while its an unofficial forum |
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| 22:41.01 | datguise | ShaggyInc, #debian-offtopic is over there. On your left. |
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| 22:43.15 | ShaggyInc | oh damn im in the wrong window too |
| 22:43.32 | ShaggyInc | i just spent 2weeks of downscrolling :( |
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| 22:45.12 | ShaggyInc | but it sounds like blaming debian for some fuckup ap slashdot |
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| 22:46.32 | verysoftoiletppr | PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:. |
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| 22:46.45 | verysoftoiletppr | sudo apt-get install openvpn |
| 22:47.01 | verysoftoiletppr | nknown command 'openvpn' |
| 22:47.04 | verysoftoiletppr | help |
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| 22:47.35 | datguise | verysoftoiletppr, you need to do it as root |
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| 22:48.04 | verysoftoiletppr | datguise tks |
| 22:48.11 | verysoftoiletppr | datguise why is that? |
| 22:48.15 | verysoftoiletppr | how does that work? |
| 22:48.16 | datguise | are you a member of sudo group? |
| 22:48.26 | verysoftoiletppr | datguise that is not my question |
| 22:48.38 | verysoftoiletppr | does root have a different path? |
| 22:48.38 | datguise | if not use su instead |
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| 23:01.22 | jelly-home | verysoftoiletppr: yes, root does have a few directories extra in the PATH |
| 23:01.24 | azathoth99 | debian!!! |
| 23:01.27 | azathoth99 | oh yeahhh!! |
| 23:01.44 | azathoth99 | archlinux and freebsd netbsd openbsd nixos sorcerer!!!! |
| 23:01.52 | azathoth99 | is debian obsolete?? |
| 23:01.59 | azathoth99 | can it stay on course??? |
| 23:02.13 | question | mplayer needs to be compiled a flag to include support for xmms plugins. there's no way to enable it using debian packages, is there (i tried installing xmms2-plugins-all, but to no avail)? |
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| 23:02.50 | jelly-home | verysoftoiletppr: mainly, /usr/sbin and /sbin is where binaries designed to be run by root go |
| 23:04.14 | verysoftoiletppr | jelly-home tks |
| 23:04.43 | jelly-home | verysoftoiletppr: might want to use dpkg -S packagename to look at what an installed package brought |
| 23:05.18 | jelly-home | verysoftoiletppr: sorry, dpkg -L packagename |
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| 23:12.23 | truexfan81 | unless the guide i'm following is complete crap, there is a broken package in the wheezy repos |
| 23:12.38 | truexfan81 | lighttpd |
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| 23:13.28 | truexfan81 | guide tells me to chown lighttpd:lighttpd /etc/lighttpd/ssl/servername -R |
| 23:14.03 | truexfan81 | well wheezy says chown: invalid user: `lighttpd:lighttpd' |
| 23:14.18 | jelly-home | truexfan81: which guide? |
| 23:14.20 | truexfan81 | should that user not have been created when aptitude installed the httpd? |
| 23:14.48 | truexfan81 | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-install-ssl-lighttpd-https-configuration.html |
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| 23:15.15 | jelly-home | that does not look like a domain where official docs would be stored, be wary of the contents |
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| 23:16.29 | ImaLamer | cyberciti has decent tutorials, but some are written for distros that are way different than debian |
| 23:16.29 | jelly-home | truexfan81: it's a) from 2006 and b) nowhere it says it's about Debian |
| 23:16.53 | truexfan81 | i couldn't fine one that was specific to debian |
| 23:17.11 | ImaLamer | truexfan81: you need to find what user lighttpd is running as (top / htop) |
| 23:17.22 | jelly-home | truexfan81: I suggest reading the stuff in /usr/share/doc/lighttpd/README.Debian* first, instead of random tutorials on the net |
| 23:17.45 | daveee123 | can someone help me install utouch? |
| 23:18.10 | jelly-home | truexfan81: also: /msg dpkg lighttpd |
| 23:18.27 | daveee123 | i downloaded it from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/utouch |
| 23:18.38 | truexfan81 | can't see it in top, if its on there its off the screen, apparently i don't have htop installed |
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| 23:18.50 | daveee123 | and i am trying to install it on Debian, not sure how to, though. it came as a .tar. i double clicked and now i have a folder |
| 23:19.03 | daveee123 | well, i extracted from the .tar, through the gui |
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| 23:19.54 | pmo | then you compile it? |
| 23:20.00 | pmo | but thats an ubuntu package? |
| 23:20.19 | pmo | this is debian |
| 23:21.17 | roelj | I compiled linux 3.11, but when trying to boot it, it can't find the rootfs by UUID. I used the config of the official debian kernel as base and I didn't mess with any sata/ata/scsi options. |
| 23:21.43 | roelj | What could be the problem? |
| 23:22.06 | truexfan81 | jelly-home: i don't see it in htop either |
| 23:22.09 | funfool | roelj, did you have a question? |
| 23:22.34 | truexfan81 | jelly-home: but it is working, i know this because i can hit it with a web browser, just not with https |
| 23:22.58 | roelj | funfool: Yes, sorry. My question is: What could I have done wrong? And is there anything special I need to know before using kernel 3.11? |
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| 23:25.02 | funfool | roelj, 3.9.X is stable, 3.10 is broken, 3.11 is stupid ... what answer do you want... you have a free reach in the answerbag |
| 23:25.57 | truexfan81 | i have such a headache right now...have spent almost 6 hours fighting with this trying to get a https server going, should not be this hard to do |
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| 23:26.48 | roelj | funfool: Why is 3.11 stupid? |
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| 23:29.10 | funfool | roelj, running cross platform, 3.10 is broke in so many ways, you want yo run 3.11 when you cant diagnose youre kernel issues with 3.10? |
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| 23:30.06 | daveee123 | i need some help installing utouch on debian. i downloaded the .tar from http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/utouch and extracted a folder through the gui. now i don't know what to do with it. can anybody help me? |
| 23:30.31 | funfool | roelj, when you can fix these issues, maybe we should talk, meantime, you just keep learning |
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| 23:32.18 | roelj | funfool: Well, actually, I'm trying to get Intel HD4000 graphics to work properly and I think from 3.9 there are improvements. I see 3.9.11 is EOL, 3.10.2 is stable and 3.11 is RC2. I'd just like to try 3.11 to see the differences with the default 3.2.. |
| 23:33.01 | ImaLamer | daveee123: you need to find the source and build from there - which isn't straightforward always |
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| 23:33.29 | daveee123 | ImaLamer: so the .tar i downloaded? is that useless? |
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| 23:34.22 | daveee123 | ImaLamer: and by the source you mean the code, not sure where to find that, i'll look around? i know the package is in some ubuntu repositories |
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| 23:35.09 | ImaLamer | daveee123: you'd need to find the original code and see about compiling and installing that (if possible) |
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| 23:35.40 | abrotman | or the source package |
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| 23:35.57 | daveee123 | abrotman: got the source package. a .tar.gz |
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| 23:36.57 | daveee123 | now what? abrotman, ImaLamer? i can unpack it, but there is no .deb or obvious file to install |
| 23:37.27 | abrotman | source package, not source |
| 23:37.29 | ImaLamer | daveee123: you need to step back and learn about compiling from source in general |
| 23:38.26 | daveee123 | ImaLamer: abrotman: i would like to. any hints i can get here? is there anything i can do with this unzipped folder? |
| 23:39.04 | abrotman | source package, not source |
| 23:39.50 | daveee123 | abrotman: it says source package. and i clicked the download and i got a .tar.gz |
| 23:39.57 | daveee123 | abrotman: what am i missing? |
| 23:40.02 | abrotman | win 13 |
| 23:40.10 | abrotman | !source package |
| 23:40.10 | dpkg | A source package is a set of files used to make a Debian binary <package>. The main file is the Debian source control file (<dsc>) which lists the other required files; use "dget http://.../foo.dsc" (see <devscripts>) to download the dsc and all referenced files. There is also a <tarball> and (usually) patches in <diff.gz> or <debsrc3.0> format. The dsc contains checksums and is cryptographically signed by the uploader. <policy> <nmg> |
| 23:40.25 | ImaLamer | stop stop |
| 23:40.26 | ImaLamer | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=utouch |
| 23:40.47 | abrotman | judd: versions utouch |
| 23:40.47 | judd | No package named 'utouch' was found in i386. |
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| 23:41.34 | daveee123 | it is from an ubuntu repository. i am trying to figure out a way to install it on debian wheezy |
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| 23:42.13 | ImaLamer | daveee123: is this to use an LCD as a touch screen (when it's not)? |
| 23:42.22 | funfool | is it important? |
| 23:42.43 | daveee123 | ImaLamer: no, it's to use a trackpad with three finger swiping. and more complex gestures that synaptics does not support |
| 23:43.12 | ImaLamer | is it a mutouch device? |
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| 23:44.27 | daveee123 | ImaLamer: funfool: abrotman: anyway to just pull directly from an Ubuntu repository? |
| 23:44.42 | funfool | daveee123, emerge --sync, will fix all this silliness |
| 23:44.47 | daveee123 | i know it could be dangerous, but i would be doing it for just this one library |
| 23:45.16 | abrotman | funfool: do you need help with Debian? |
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| 23:45.35 | daveee123 | funfool: what does that do? |
| 23:45.41 | abrotman | daveee123: ignore him |
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| 23:46.34 | truexfan81 | what causes this error? |
| 23:46.35 | truexfan81 | Connecting to 127.0.0.1:443... connected. GnuTLS: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received. Unable to establish SSL connection. |
| 23:46.46 | funfool | come on dudes, show me the girls |
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| 23:52.05 | ImaLamer | daveee123: the utouch package in ubuntu isn't what you want anyways (I don't think) |
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| 23:52.17 | ImaLamer | daveee123: lets establish first what type of touchpad you have |
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| 23:55.31 | ImaLamer | daveee123: debian has a few xserver-xorg-input-*** drivers that might be what you want |
| 23:55.40 | ImaLamer | xserver-xorg-input-multitouch for example |
| 23:56.02 | abrotman | ImaLamer: he's already been over those .. |
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| 23:57.05 | ImaLamer | when? |
| 23:57.19 | abrotman | last night |
| 23:57.41 | ImaLamer | oh i see |
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| 23:58.11 | ImaLamer | that ubuntu package is just a meta package anyways... that input package and other tools would get him there |
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