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| 00:06.09 | Na_Klar | do I have to iptable the passiv ports for proftpd? or are they "open" anyways? |
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| 00:12.53 | Na_Klar | I need. --destination-ports |
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| 00:20.02 | nsgn | abrotman, well, 3.9.0 just gives me a black screen when booting. guess i'm going to try ubuntu. not a dig at debian. i use it for server stuff all the time. just occasionally need graphics and i find folks discussing ubuntu supporting this. obviously ubuntu should be fairly comfortable to me considering how related it is. thx for the help. just wanted to report back somehow the issue is with the way x or the kernels for debian are packaged |
| 00:22.07 | abrotman | nsgn: weird .. last ditch, i'd say to grab the intel driver from experiemental, but it's up to you |
| 00:22.20 | nsgn | abrotman, hmm |
| 00:22.30 | nsgn | guess i'll reboot and try that real quick while ubuntu downloads |
| 00:23.20 | jklaz | owen1: try hd0,1 |
| 00:23.37 | jklaz | owen1: try hd0,1 instead of hd0,msdos1 |
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| 00:28.30 | Daulity | ok reinstalled debian :) (without x) |
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| 00:31.02 | nsgn | abrotman, bah. i may never get the chance to try now. out of space on / due to a poor choice in partitioning for such a small disk. i'm wiping and going ubuntu for a try. i'll be back to debian to try this again i suppose if ubuntu has no luck |
| 00:34.32 | abrotman | nsgn: good luck |
| 00:35.06 | nsgn | abrotman, hope so. it looks like either my luck sucks today or this hardware is just really NOT linux supported. ubuntu installer just bailed on me part way in |
| 00:36.05 | nsgn | i really dont wanna have to run windows on this thing |
| 00:36.20 | nsgn | not that it couldnt do the job..it just isnt well suited for it |
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| 00:38.56 | abrotman | nsgn: i wonder if that's the "Intel, but not really" chipset |
| 00:39.17 | nsgn | abrotman, i'm not familiar |
| 00:39.21 | nsgn | with the issue you reference |
| 00:40.03 | nsgn | dangit, second try ubuntu won't go. i guess i'm loading win 7 on this sucker and slimming it wayyy down :/ |
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| 00:40.24 | nsgn | something tells me i may have to find more than 512mb ram to stuff in it for that :) |
| 00:42.55 | abrotman | nsgn: there's a chipset that intel was selling that wasn't really an intel card, and it doesn't work right in linux |
| 00:44.17 | nsgn | hmm |
| 00:44.22 | nsgn | maybe so. would be my luck |
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| 00:46.55 | abrotman | nsgn: you'll have to do a bit of poking around, i can't remeber the chipset name |
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| 00:48.08 | nsgn | abrotman, yeah i dunno. i'm just going windows on it now. sucks cause i would have preferred something lower maintenance but at this point i've been at it all day and only have 4 hours left in the day and would like to have something working |
| 00:48.31 | abrotman | there's always freedos :) |
| 00:48.42 | owen1 | jklaz: will do. thanks! |
| 00:48.59 | nsgn | ha. not sure that will do a lot better with my need to output graphics :) |
| 00:49.14 | nsgn | though, funny you mention it, i had to use it earlier today to update the bios on this board |
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| 00:53.06 | owen1 | jklaz: ls (hd0,1)/ => /lost+found |
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| 00:53.22 | jmcnaught | i think the wonky intel GPU abrotman is referring to is the GMA-500 Poulsbo, based on PowerVR GPUs. they're usually found in Atom systems |
| 00:53.39 | owen1 | ls (hd0,5)/ => unknown filesystem |
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| 00:55.02 | abrotman | jmcnaught: sounds familiar |
| 00:55.09 | nsgn | jmcnaught, maybe so. i'm on an atom d2500 in this case |
| 00:55.18 | kplong | looking for some help with exim4 if anyone is handy with it. trying to get to Bcc all messages to an archiver device . |
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| 00:55.50 | jmcnaught | nsgn: apparently that also has a PowerVR based GPU: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#PowerVR_based |
| 00:56.28 | nsgn | well snap. guess that explains my entire last 8 hours trying to get this to work (without luck) in linux |
| 00:57.02 | nsgn | why is it that powerVR is less compatible with linux? poor/nonexistent documentation from imagination tech, the manufacturer? |
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| 00:59.27 | abrotman | nsgn: it's not really an intel card .. they contracted out for it |
| 00:59.58 | nsgn | yes, that's why i referenced imagination tech, the company who develops the plans for powerVR |
| 01:00.23 | nsgn | and why on earth, when intel does a lot of other graphics stuff on their own, would they use an outsourced design for this small series of them? |
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| 01:01.01 | abrotman | some accountant made a technical decision? :) |
| 01:01.53 | jmcnaught | nsgn: intel has a proprietary linux driver here: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=21938 |
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| 01:04.03 | nsgn | i really wanted to use a raspberry pi with debian(raspbian) to drive these screens. i do it for several others around here with excellent success. but these stupid monitors are so cheap they are vga only, which requires a powered adapter to use from the pi |
| 01:05.02 | abrotman | so just a couple of bad decisions mixed together? |
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| 01:05.40 | nsgn | abrotman, well, more like i'm making something out of parts i already had lying around. were i buying from scratch i'd get a pi and a monitor with dvi/hdmi and call it a day |
| 01:06.08 | nsgn | instead i pulled out these vga only monitors and an atom motherboard. ended up blowing a whole day on it trying to avoid buying new hardware. in hindsight the pi + dvi monitor would have been far easier :) |
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| 01:28.03 | roboman2444 | eh... still dont see why multiarch was needed |
| 01:28.13 | roboman2444 | it takes more space, and is a hassle to set up |
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| 01:32.14 | abrotman | roboman2444: so don't use it? |
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| 01:32.48 | roboman2444 | yea, but debian and apt doesnt like me |
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| 01:33.30 | abrotman | that's not specific |
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| 01:51.42 | ttal | Hi all, I have a question regarding getting an exact directory size in bytes. In GNU/Linux you can use "du -b [dir]" however I'm looking for the same feature in Mac OS X. I'd appreciate any help. |
| 01:52.25 | abrotman | did you ask #macosx ? |
| 01:52.31 | Th0masR0ss | ttal: this is #debian, not #macosx |
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| 02:38.56 | Tordek | mjt: I bugrepored the ugly text issue, and apparently it's a libcairo2 issue that has been reported already and a patch exists |
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| 03:43.28 | marcm | I am setting up a server for KVM virtualization (with LVMs) and I got 6 x 2TB drives and an LSI 9260 8i RAID controller. I get more space with RAID 50, however I am wondering what the performance penalty is vs. RAID 10? Can anyone help me with this please? Thank you. |
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| 03:46.32 | humle | hi folks |
| 03:46.39 | humle | hi marcm |
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| 03:50.02 | kplong | is there a good reason why exim4 is the debian default smtp? |
| 03:50.12 | Q8GEEK | Guys, I followed up this tutorial to install nginx on Debian. But I'm getting error lighttpd (network.c.371) ... Any help? http://www.howtoforge.com/installing-nginx-with-php5-and-mysql-support-on-debian-squeeze |
| 03:51.05 | qman__ | marcm, There is a pretty notable performance hit on writes. I would recommend raid 10 for your use case, especially if you intend to run any VMs with busy databases. |
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| 03:54.34 | marcm | qman__ what if I have SSD caching? |
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| 04:14.46 | Q8GEEK | oh... found my problem, conflict between lighttpd and nginx... such an idiot, why would i install both!? |
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| 04:22.17 | waqstar | Q8GEEK, lol |
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| 04:24.34 | cads | hey guys, I'm wondering if there is a way to automatically guess all the dependencies from a make/cmake project |
| 04:25.04 | cads | and either list the dependencies or just list the missing ones |
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| 04:26.32 | cads | currently, to get all the dependencies when the project documentation doesn't describe then, I simply iterate the following process: running make -> wait for error -> install missing dependency |
| 04:26.36 | stree | to describe a change |
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| 04:35.01 | dondelelcaro | cads: seeuto-apt |
| 04:35.09 | dondelelcaro | err, see auto-apt |
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| 04:40.47 | Talon_ | debian is only recognizing half my ram, anything I can do? |
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| 04:41.44 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: how much ram is it recognizing? what architecture? |
| 04:42.19 | Talon_ | 64bit debian wheezy, and 4 sticks of 2gb, it shows 4gb when I have 8 |
| 04:42.45 | dondelelcaro | does the bios show 8G? |
| 04:42.52 | Talon_ | yes |
| 04:43.18 | dondelelcaro | what does uname -a; output? |
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| 04:44.28 | Talon_ | Linux debian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 04:45.43 | dondelelcaro | ok |
| 04:46.54 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: can you paste the output of dmidecode -t memory; ? |
| 04:47.10 | Talon_ | yeah one sec |
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| 04:47.42 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: and you should also check the first couple hundred lines of /var/log/dmesg |
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| 04:51.23 | Talon_ | http://pastebin.com/sLyUJQ3v |
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| 04:55.11 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: cool; that looks reasonable. What does grep -i mem /var/log/dmesg; say? |
| 04:56.06 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: or even just to start, grep Memory /var/log/dmesg; ? |
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| 04:57.22 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: and the last question is what dpkg --print-architecture; say? |
| 04:57.43 | Talon_ | http://pastebin.com/SdSyLYyJ |
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| 04:58.40 | Talon_ | ugh, looks like it copied wrong lol, but I did do the grep mem |
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| 05:00.22 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: hrm... looks like the kernel is only to see 4G, so there's not much that Debian can do about it |
| 05:00.23 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: I'd try a newer kernel |
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| 05:01.25 | dondelelcaro | (I asked all of the other questions, because 4G is a very suspicious number, and sounds like either hardware or 32bit limitations) |
| 05:02.19 | Talon_ | I must need some other repository then, my package manager doesn't show any newer kernel available. |
| 05:02.34 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: yes. wheezy-backports has a 3.9 kernel |
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| 05:03.13 | humle | just installed the network-manager-pptp and network-manager-pptp-gnome restartet the service. Put nothing on vpn show up :-/ im running gdm |
| 05:03.19 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: if you go to backports.debian.org it should have instructions on how to add it |
| 05:03.36 | Talon_ | could my ram be failing? |
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| 05:03.55 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: unlikely |
| 05:04.05 | dondelelcaro | Talon_: unless this just started happening |
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| 05:04.16 | Talon_ | It's supposed to be dual-channel ram, but since the issue, I've looked in my bios and it won't go into dual channel, its stuck in single channel memory mode. |
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| 05:05.44 | Talon_ | It just happened when I recently upgraded all my packages and I couldn't get my virtualbox to run without crashing the entire system.. turns out the old settings had 2gb dedicated to win7x64, and since my ram was now seen as 4gb, it was more than half my available thus crashing it, I reduced it to 1.5 for now until I can figure out whats goin on. |
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| 05:05.53 | dondelelcaro | dunno; it's sort of odd that the memory doesn't have a serial number or anything, but then again, sometimes cheap ram doesn't |
| 05:06.59 | dondelelcaro | hrm... that is starting to sound more like a hardware problem |
| 05:07.08 | Talon_ | before I marked all my packages for upgrade, it saw the entire 8, and my virtualbox ran fine... I thought it was the new vbox, turns out to be my ram issue. |
| 05:07.18 | dondelelcaro | ah |
| 05:07.41 | dondelelcaro | yeah, it's unlikely that a new kernel would have caused the memory to suddenly go missing... at least, I've never heard of it happenign |
| 05:08.23 | dondelelcaro | I'd maybe check that everything is still seated properly, and try a new kernel... otherwise, I'd suspect the memory of failing |
| 05:08.38 | dondelelcaro | (but someone else may have a better idea) |
| 05:09.10 | Talon_ | either way, I ordered new ram, should be here tuesday, 2 sticks of 4gb. I already unseated them, blew out the slots, put 'em back in, still no luck... native windows 7 and bios see the full 8, but linux wont :/ |
| 05:09.29 | ImaLamer | it could be a software bug |
| 05:10.47 | ImaLamer | Talon_: does windows 7 use this memory that is failing? |
| 05:10.58 | ImaLamer | have you run memtest (etc)? |
| 05:11.43 | Talon_ | hmm, memtest command not found, must need to install a package eh? |
| 05:12.19 | ImaLamer | comes with most grub installs |
| 05:12.26 | Talon_ | synaptic shows memtest86+, memtest86, and memtester |
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| 05:13.07 | ImaLamer | right |
| 05:13.13 | ImaLamer | http://www.memtest.org/ |
| 05:13.16 | Talon_ | never seen it in my boot options |
| 05:13.58 | Talon_ | so go ahead and install the 86+? |
| 05:14.21 | ImaLamer | i believe that's the older version |
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| 05:14.34 | ImaLamer | or no, the + is newer i guess |
| 05:14.38 | Talon_ | that link you gave me says its the newest |
| 05:14.44 | ImaLamer | ,v memetest86+ |
| 05:14.45 | judd | No package named 'memetest86+' was found in i386. |
| 05:14.53 | ImaLamer | ,v memtest86+ |
| 05:14.54 | judd | Package: memtest86+ on i386 -- squeeze: 4.10-1.1; squeeze-backports: 4.20-1~bpo60+1; jessie: 4.20-1.1; sid: 4.20-1.1; wheezy: 4.20-1.1 |
| 05:15.40 | Talon_ | installing... requires a reboot? does it become a grub option? |
| 05:15.47 | ImaLamer | Talon_: I've never run it live, but you can typically reboot the machine and run it to perform different scans of memory |
| 05:15.54 | ImaLamer | right |
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| 05:16.09 | ImaLamer | what type of machine do you have Talon_ |
| 05:17.49 | Talon_ | ASRock 990FX Extreme4 running an FX6200 6 core 3.8 GHz, with G.SKILL ripjaws ram, DDR3 1600 I believe |
| 05:18.18 | Talon_ | built it myself, its not a store bought. |
| 05:19.40 | ImaLamer | do you have the latest bios for it? (sorry if you've been through this) |
| 05:19.49 | Talon_ | yeah |
| 05:20.27 | ImaLamer | it could be a current issue with the ram too |
| 05:20.42 | ImaLamer | memtest should help tell you if it's the ram for sure |
| 05:20.50 | Talon_ | what like voltage? |
| 05:21.06 | Talon_ | its 1.5v ram, I could lock it in my bios, I just left it on auto |
| 05:21.08 | ImaLamer | it'll put the machine through some paces so be sure if you have cooling settings in bios enable them |
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| 05:21.40 | ImaLamer | idk if memtest shows the voltage used, but you may want to google the combo about fixing it to a setting or not |
| 05:21.59 | ImaLamer | it's all FM sometimes so there are other things to consider, but it could be a kernel bug also |
| 05:22.01 | debbix | anyone here used proxychains ? |
| 05:22.15 | Talon_ | oh I turned all that cool n quiet stuff off, so my fans fun full boar... kinda noisy but I'd rather it always run full than throttle down. |
| 05:23.06 | Talon_ | ok well im going to reboot and try this memtest thing |
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| 05:23.30 | ImaLamer | it should help, but if you are looking into a purchase you might want to give it the full test |
| 05:23.44 | ImaLamer | depends on your budget & value of time :D |
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| 05:25.14 | ImaLamer | debbix: ask a question for the best mileage |
| 05:28.11 | cads | dondelelcaro: that's pretty sharp |
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| 05:29.16 | debbix | ImaLamer: looks like proxychains google-chrome is not working properly. Tor client is open and config file contains an entery for "socks4 127.0.0.1 9151" |
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| 05:29.49 | ImaLamer | and that's your tor proxy? |
| 05:30.47 | debbix | yes |
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| 05:31.14 | ImaLamer | first i'd have to say that chrome + tor is a bad idea only because you can't trust chrome |
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| 05:35.23 | ImaLamer | are you running it as 'proxychains google-chrome' |
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| 05:43.00 | gogogadget | hello |
| 05:43.07 | gogogadget | can anyone recomond a twitter ncurces application? |
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| 05:44.31 | gogogadget | also, I want to install libqt3 in wheezy, but there isn't a package for that. Will I have to install from source? if so, do you know where I can find it? |
| 05:46.17 | themill | gogogadget: qt3 was removed from debian quite some time ago --libqt3-mt from squeeze is actually installable in wheezy, but you shouldn't really need it for anything. |
| 05:46.50 | gogogadget | themill: I need to build a program that says it can't work with qt4 |
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| 05:48.15 | gogogadget | themill: How can I install --libqt3-mt ? |
| 05:49.30 | gogogadget | themill: just download the package from the debain website and install it manually? with dpkg -i *.deb ? |
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| 06:12.38 | Talon_ | ok memtest86+ was also showing just 4gb |
| 06:13.04 | germs | Then it's your mobo/ram/settings |
| 06:13.14 | germs | check your firmware version |
| 06:13.29 | germs | if that's not it, then settings, it's configed funky |
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| 06:13.43 | germs | and if not that, memory or something, you're gonna have to RMA something |
| 06:13.51 | Talon_ | I dunno if it was bios or what, it read the 8, but was stuck in single channel memory mode, I read a stick and manually configured my ram to the sticks sticker, 1.5v, did a dram timing of 7-8-7-24 and saved it, rebooted, and it finally went into dual-channel mode |
| 06:13.59 | Talon_ | now that I rebooted debian, it now sees all 8 :) |
| 06:14.08 | germs | oh word, gj |
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| 06:19.36 | austinium | hi, i am running Debian Jessie/Sid, GUI doesn't start up automatically on boot. I login into BASH and then type startx to run GUI (GNOME 3), dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 gives me an error saying gdm3 is broken or not fully installed |
| 06:19.43 | austinium | how can i fix this? |
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| 06:20.32 | themill | austinium: does "aptitude install" want to do things? |
| 06:22.24 | austinium | themill: it has a list of packages to be removed |
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| 06:22.51 | subb1 | HI guys |
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| 06:23.15 | subb1 | I'm receiving segmentation faulut on every command i run on my debain etch |
| 06:23.36 | subb1 | I was trying to replace an old glibc v 2.3 with a new glibc 2.6... |
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| 06:25.12 | themill | austinium: perhaps you could pastebin the entire output? |
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| 06:36.39 | austinium | themill: http://paste.debian.net/19322/ |
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| 06:52.33 | humle | asking: anyone having a vlc perl script for irssi laying around to show whats playing ? |
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| 07:09.11 | ZIPY | hi, is there any way to disable beeps from my mainboardspeaker while shutting down etc? |
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| 07:10.21 | milo64 | ZIPY: what debian version, what Desktop Environment? |
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| 07:10.55 | ZIPY | milo64: jessy, gnome 3 |
| 07:11.37 | milo64 | doesn't know about jessy nor gnome 3 |
| 07:12.37 | Coburn | ZIPY: mute pc speaker |
| 07:12.42 | Coburn | it's in alsamixer |
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| 07:14.04 | milo64 | hey, i tried checking sudo apt-get update and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"... isn't there any upgrades? how odd. |
| 07:14.21 | milo64 | kde is superbly outdated... so is the kernel |
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| 07:15.14 | ksk | milo64: what is outdated to you? you should inform yourself about what "debian stable" means |
| 07:15.18 | ksk | !tell milo64 about stable |
| 07:16.17 | milo64 | o well ok |
| 07:16.40 | ksk | use gentoo or fedora if you need bleeding edge :> |
| 07:16.56 | milo64 | i was used to arch linux :P |
| 07:17.04 | milo64 | stuff come in everyday |
| 07:17.04 | ksk | !tell milo64 about testing |
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| 07:17.57 | milo64 | ksk: so, testing is a "stable release" at it's core, and the "unstable stuff" are provided by updates? |
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| 07:21.12 | themill | milo64: there's nothing stable about testing at all |
| 07:21.56 | ZIPY | Coburn: i cant find any entrys for pc speaker :( |
| 07:22.14 | jpinx | I followed this to disable IPv6 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=85551 but wget still fails to resolve. What am I missing ? |
| 07:22.28 | Coburn | ZIPY: http://arsgeek.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-turn-off-the-annoying-system-beep-in-linux-DebianUbuntu |
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| 07:23.09 | jpinx | netstat -tunlp |grep p6 |wc -l outputs 9 - so somethings are still getting IPv6 |
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| 07:25.10 | ksk | milo64: testing will become the next stable release, but until its "frozen" it will get new versions of software |
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| 07:25.36 | ksk | so you might check if that fits your needs ( see http://packages.debian.org to see which versions are in which releases) |
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| 07:28.56 | ZIPY | Coburn: doesnt work either :( |
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| 07:32.32 | Jckf | Following up on the nForce NIC trouble I had yesterday: I'm getting a new NIC. I assume pretty much anything Intel is going to be supported? |
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| 07:39.21 | spm_Draget | Does 'dpkg --get-selections' list all packages that supposedly I installed directly via apt? |
| 07:39.32 | Jckf | Googling sugest the e1000 driver handles that card I'm thinking of (PWLA8391GT) |
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| 07:40.35 | Coburn | ZIPY: [17:23:12] <&CorrodedSoul> unplug the pc speaker |
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| 07:40.47 | Coburn | unless it's a laptop |
| 07:41.01 | ZIPY | Coburn: thx, it works now i had to add ".conf" to blacklist |
| 07:41.02 | Coburn | Jckf: even realtek |
| 07:41.11 | Coburn | np |
| 07:41.23 | Jckf | Coburn: What? |
| 07:41.38 | Coburn | Jckf: Realtek LAN cards are pretty good |
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| 07:42.30 | ZIPY | shouldnt /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist that file be loaded too even there is no ".conf" at the end of its name? |
| 07:42.34 | ZIPY | very strange |
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| 07:46.30 | jair | guys I know this is documented in many different places, but if I ufortunately have an application depending on JRE Java software what should I use on debian wheezy 64bit? |
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| 07:48.18 | jair | I am in this page: http://wiki.debian.org/Java |
| 07:48.41 | jair | but I am not sure I should use to benefit the community and the project with support? |
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| 07:49.24 | jair | basically, I don't like java software, but in the case of aptana it is a requirement ;( |
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| 07:52.54 | themill | spm_Draget: yes, but it will also include packages that are scheduled for removal too. |
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| 07:56.32 | spm_Draget | themill: Sure it only lists manually installed packages? I think it lists all packages… |
| 07:57.00 | spm_Draget | I have a ton of lib* etc. packages there that looks very much like dependecies |
| 07:57.32 | themill | no, it doesn't only list manually installed packages (but that wasn't what you asked) |
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| 07:59.01 | korn36 | can i use a partition that already has some data as "/" partition while installing debian? |
| 07:59.05 | korn36 | i don't want to format |
| 07:59.10 | korn36 | cause i have some virtual machines on it |
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| 07:59.24 | ffio | i want to add a debian installer to my live lfs build. how can i do it ? |
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| 08:06.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell spm_Draget -about aptitude clone |
| 08:07.13 | Perdu | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:07.25 | korn36 | i keep them under /usr/virtual-machines |
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| 08:09.05 | Perdu | I'm not an expert, but I don't think this is a proper place to store such a thing |
| 08:09.26 | Perdu | I'm not sure you can keep ths /usr partition on reinstall |
| 08:09.46 | Perdu | The /var and /home are pretty safe for this, I think |
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| 08:10.02 | Perdu | (+partitions) |
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| 08:12.06 | korn36 | Perdu: So if i move the virtual-machines folder from /usr to /var they won't get removed? |
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| 08:12.26 | korn36 | I have all that /usr /var stuff on / partition |
| 08:12.44 | korn36 | And I have a separate /home partition but machines won't fit on it |
| 08:13.09 | Perdu | korn36: I think but I'm not sure, please check it first |
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| 08:13.59 | korn36 | i could always create those machines again |
| 08:14.39 | korn36 | ok everything in /var/ now |
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| 08:14.51 | Perdu | I also know that you can chose whether or not to delete data on partitions in expert install, but I don't know if you're prompted for this in automatic install |
| 08:15.14 | korn36 | downloads debian |
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| 08:16.33 | korn36 | which debian shall i download? wheezy or jessie? (i'm on desktop, not server) |
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| 08:17.04 | themill | unless you either like pain or are involved in debian development, running wheezy right now would be much more sensible |
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| 08:17.42 | babilen | And even if you like pain (because, why not?) you shouldn't use the testing/jessie installer. |
| 08:19.55 | korn36 | okay |
| 08:20.42 | korn36 | any users of liquorix kernel here? is it better than standard debian's kernel? |
| 08:21.20 | babilen | dpkg: tell korn36 about liquorix |
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| 08:26.27 | korn36 | is dd enough to install debian from usb or are some modifications to iso needed? |
| 08:27.26 | themill | Are you reading the rather fine manual that comes with the installer? |
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| 08:28.03 | babilen | dpkg: tell korn36 -about ig |
| 08:28.06 | babilen | dpkg: tell korn36 -about usb install |
| 08:28.56 | babilen | korn36: And I wouldn't recommend to use dd, but cp. Well, granted, you can send USR1 signals to dd to get output of how much data has been copied, but then you could just use dcfldd. |
| 08:30.46 | korn36 | babilen: thanks about the USR1 advice. i didn't know that sending those signals will make dd show progress |
| 08:31.13 | babilen | korn36: Just use dcfldd ;) |
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| 08:31.56 | babilen | korn36: But for copying the iso to your stick you could just use cp and take advantage of its automatic blocksize scaling |
| 08:32.03 | babilen | (and less arcana syntax) |
| 08:32.06 | babilen | *arcane |
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| 08:32.42 | korn36 | blocksize scaling? so that's why dd works like a snail sometimes |
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| 08:33.12 | korn36 | so cp /dev/zero /dev/sd* will wipe my disk faster than dd? |
| 08:35.30 | musca | well, using dd with parameter bs=[insert-some-suitable-value-here] will be as quick as the media |
| 08:35.36 | babilen | korn36: depends on your blocksize setting for dd/dcfldd, but I'd expect it to. Haven't done any measurements with /dev/zero, but you would surely find data about this on the internet. |
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| 08:36.29 | korn36 | i use the 4M blocksize usually |
| 08:36.36 | korn36 | but nevermind, i'll reboot soon |
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| 08:37.01 | babilen | musca: That assumes that you get the optimal blocksize right -- And why go through all this hassle if the tools can do this automatically for you? The *only* reason to use dd is when you want to do something like "copy 512 bytes from /dev/sda starting from an offset of 1024 in blocks of 64" |
| 08:37.19 | musca | yeah, some tapedrives are optimized for 64K or 128K |
| 08:37.30 | korn36 | backs up some stuff to an ugly ntfs partition |
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| 08:39.49 | Iridos | dcfldd was new to me (so was the USR1 thing)... of course, dcfldd is the most easily memorizable name |
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| 08:41.47 | Elw3 | is it possible to access mount points inside of another mountpoint? |
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| 08:42.22 | korn36 | Elw3: I think it is |
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| 08:43.57 | Iridos | Elw3, can you rephrase that question? It's not clear what you want to do... |
| 08:45.37 | Elw3 | i use mount -o bind /media /chroot/media. i can acces /media itself with that but not stuff inside /media/somedir |
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| 08:48.41 | Iridos | you mean the /media ( |from) inside the chroot? That should work... haven't had a need to do it myself, though. Wonder if missing the device in /dev that you originally mounted it from would mess it up, though |
| 08:49.08 | korn36 | bindmount the media and chmod 777 the /media inside the chroot |
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| 08:50.07 | Elw3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:50.23 | Elw3 | korn36 there is nothing to chmod |
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| 08:52.02 | Elw3 | gues it is supposed to work since noone else has that, now what am i doing wrong? |
| 08:52.38 | Iridos | hm, I just tried what you did and yes, that fails |
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| 08:53.43 | Iridos | not sure if that's something that's supposed to work |
| 08:54.05 | Iridos | surely, you need to mount stuff from inside the chroot to have the mtab in the chroot updated correctly |
| 08:54.07 | Elw3 | well not sure if that is a good message... any idea how to hack that right? |
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| 08:54.34 | digirak | what package installation system is better? |
| 08:54.40 | digirak | apt-get or aptitude? |
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| 08:56.33 | zerox | I like interactive UI, so I choose aptitude. |
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| 08:56.42 | n_ed | on sqeeze, I used to enable compiz and use the windows scaling feature, where I would point my mouse to the corner and all the windows would zoom out and I could click to switch windows. Now that I have upgraded to Debian wheezy, is there a way to get this feature back? |
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| 09:01.12 | Mackwerk | Hello! I am trying to set up a raid0 configuration on my squeeze server, I can mount the disks manually but it won't persist after a reboot, I've added a line to fstab but still no luck, it's an EC2 EBS optimized instance with 8x500gb EBS disks, have you guys experienced something like this before? =o |
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| 09:04.49 | moty66 | what is the best location to mount a network drive after restart? rc.local? I use this command to do it "mount -t cifs //192.168.1.254/fax /mnt/fax" |
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| 09:06.38 | moty66 | mount: Resource temporarily unavailable |
| 09:06.57 | n_ed | gnome has expose, I guess I'll just switch from xfce |
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| 09:08.01 | Elw3 | moty66 rc local probably runs before the network is ready, add an delay |
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| 09:09.29 | moty66 | Elw3: something like "sleep 120" ?? |
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| 09:09.50 | n_ed | is compiz in testing, can I install it on wheezy? |
| 09:09.57 | Elw3 | wow, 2 minutes are log but jes |
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| 09:11.13 | Iridos | *sigh* seems now I got a dropbox account... is there a fuse wrapper for a dropbox mount? I bet there is |
| 09:11.41 | Dewi | Iridos: you don't want it to sync? |
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| 09:11.53 | tiron | zz |
| 09:12.02 | Iridos | dunno... I thought I just copy files back and to? |
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| 09:12.26 | Dewi | Iridos: it does that |
| 09:12.38 | Dewi | Iridos: as in, syncs a local disk, no special mounts needed |
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| 09:13.01 | Iridos | not used it at all yet... but had some type of webdav share that I could just use as a mount |
| 09:13.02 | Iridos | hm |
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| 09:13.34 | Iridos | Dewi, so that's the client they want me to download? and I dedicate some directory or other for syncing? |
| 09:14.08 | Dewi | Iridos: yeah and they just constantly ship changes in both directions, file by file |
| 09:14.25 | moty66 | I need to mount a share dir from my nas to debian, what is the best mount type to use? |
| 09:14.42 | moty66 | I have problems with cifs :S |
| 09:14.44 | Dewi | Iridos: it doesn't have the slowness or unavailability issues of a remote mount |
| 09:14.52 | moty66 | keeps telling me "mount: Resource temporarily unavailable" |
| 09:15.28 | Dewi | Iridos: but obviously that means conflicts are possible, and you need enough disk space for everything |
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| 09:17.41 | Iridos | Dewi, I see. Well, not sure I want to sync anything all the time right now... but thanks, I see how it's supposed to go if I get the "official" client. wondered if there's a package in debian that I [cs]ould use... not the nautilus one, I don't use that a file manager |
| 09:17.45 | stree | i wondered that too |
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| 09:24.23 | korn36 | i can't install sudo |
| 09:24.31 | korn36 | apt-get install sudo asks for CD |
| 09:24.37 | korn36 | and I don't have CD |
| 09:24.48 | Lucis | Hey guys, can i ask a question about installing kali here? kali channel is pretty empty. |
| 09:25.23 | Iridos | dpkg, kali |
| 09:25.23 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 09:25.26 | marcusk | korn36: You probably have it in your apt config |
| 09:25.40 | korn36 | marcusk: but i installed xchat without problems |
| 09:25.41 | Lucis | ok thank you |
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| 09:26.08 | korn36 | marcusk: THANKS |
| 09:26.10 | korn36 | it works! |
| 09:26.29 | marcusk | korn36: It could be that sudo was on the image you installed from, xchat wasn't so apt knew not to look for it there. |
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| 09:27.42 | korn36 | be right back, relogging in so sudo will start knowing that i'm in sudo group |
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| 09:29.13 | wooy | Hi, I got irssi running on wheezy. One of the irssi script caused segfault at calling view() function. Despite I removed the faulty script, *any* call to the view() function fails with a perl error "undefined subroutine". The point is that the segfault caused some permanent damage, which seems odd to me. |
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| 09:30.10 | wooy | I have also used debsums on irssi and perl packages, all the files passed fine. |
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| 09:41.05 | moty66 | I guess there is a big in mounting cifs, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/2c867f75/ |
| 09:41.32 | moty66 | I still can use smbclient to list shares but I can't mount anything! |
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| 09:46.15 | Mackwerk | Hey, I've set up 8x500gb disks in raid0 and I ran iops.py to check the speed, but it seems really slow. Does anyone know if this is normal speeds for raid0? https://dpaste.de/eFSB3/ |
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| 09:47.13 | moty66 | cat /proc/mdstat |
| 09:47.20 | moty66 | oops! |
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| 09:49.41 | korn36 | any ideas why installing xfswitch-plugin pulled in many other packages i don't even need? |
| 09:49.56 | korn36 | why do i need gnome3-desktop-data for an userswitching plugin for XFCE |
| 09:50.51 | korn36 | oh no... pulseaudio |
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| 10:04.39 | korn36 | anyone knows a good volume applet for xfce? |
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| 10:11.26 | moty66 | anyway, I couldn't use cifs to mount my network share, I switched to nfs and it seems ok |
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| 10:13.42 | alami | hello, can i install webmin on debian? |
| 10:14.04 | xand | !webmin |
| 10:14.05 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
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| 10:15.28 | alami | !whcp |
| 10:15.28 | dpkg | whcp is probably Web Hosting Control Panel. Ask me about <free whcp> and <non-free whcp>. |
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| 10:15.41 | alami | !free whcp |
| 10:15.41 | dpkg | FOSS Web Hosting Control Panels include: <DTC>, <GNUPanel>, <ISPConfig> and <ispCP> Omega. Don't use <Webmin>. http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
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| 10:17.02 | alami | xand: wich one is good? |
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| 10:17.29 | fredsted | Webmin is fine these days. |
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| 10:17.58 | alami | fredsted: yes but as you see below, it's not secure |
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| 10:18.31 | fredsted | What, that 8 year old bug report? |
| 10:18.52 | xand | I think they're all rubbish |
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| 10:18.54 | xand | shrugs |
| 10:19.03 | themill | webmin is still a great way of making a mess you won't know how to fix |
| 10:19.41 | fredsted | Ever see a CPanel server? Now that is a mess :) |
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| 10:19.59 | xand | I prefer to do things... manually |
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| 10:20.48 | alami | xand: we don't talk about you, we talk about other ppl that will use the server later |
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| 10:22.55 | alami | fredsted: CPanel is great but not free :( |
| 10:24.18 | fredsted | Meh, cpanel is a bunch of hacked together scripts and executables. It totally changes the server when you install it. I'd avoid it at all costs. |
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| 10:24.51 | moty66 | plesk is nice too, it is not free |
| 10:25.25 | fredsted | ISPConfig is free, but doesnt do as much as webmin. |
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| 11:43.20 | jxport | Is it normal that I can't mount my other HDD in the Debian installer shell? |
| 11:43.54 | jxport | It is composed of one NTFS partition |
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| 11:48.33 | frostschutz | why should the debian installer shell support ntfs? |
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| 11:48.57 | StaticLNX | sudo pecl install pdo errors ;( |
| 11:50.20 | nikitkoneedhelp | #exit |
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| 11:52.29 | jxport | frostschutz: it would be pretty useful when you have a system with multiple HDDs of the same model |
| 11:52.53 | jxport | It's pretty tough to distinguish one drive from another, and accidentally install onto the wrong disk |
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| 11:54.18 | StaticLNX | sudo pecl install pdo errors ;( http://pastebin.com/tGNKpLDi |
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| 11:56.48 | jxport | Other than mounting to review which files are on which drive, how could such a tragedy else be best averted? |
| 11:57.21 | alami | i have install debian 7.1, on an HP PRoliant DL380 g6, but he don't show me eth0-4 |
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| 11:59.36 | troulouliou_dev | hi where cani configure what happen when i close the laptop screen on wheezy ? |
| 11:59.43 | stree | i configure a cms hosted on get |
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| 12:20.06 | spstarr_work | anyone from Samba packaging/ |
| 12:20.07 | spstarr_work | ? |
| 12:20.17 | spstarr_work | where can I find the http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-samba-maint/2013-July/014729.html packages? |
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| 12:21.06 | abrotman | spstarr_work: if they're still in NEW, you cannot get them |
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| 12:21.25 | spstarr_work | 'new' since July 1st? :( |
| 12:21.36 | spstarr_work | abrotman: but where is the git tree? |
| 12:21.43 | spstarr_work | ie, i can build it if i can find the actual source |
| 12:21.45 | abrotman | it's possible .. sometimes packages are in NEW for a few months |
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| 12:23.56 | spstarr_work | finding the source however is proving to be... difficult ;/ |
| 12:24.19 | abrotman | you could email the samba packaging team |
| 12:25.56 | spstarr_work | thats a good idea ;) |
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| 12:26.51 | spstarr_work | loks like http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-samba-maint/2013-July/014785.html |
| 12:27.00 | spstarr_work | we're getting close to 4.0.6/7 package |
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| 12:27.34 | spstarr_work | nd the final plan is to have Samba 4.x packages in unstable during DebConf. |
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| 12:28.04 | spstarr_work | wow, so we're talking RSN |
| 12:28.15 | abrotman | in two weeks or so |
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| 12:36.33 | alami | i have install debian 7.1, on an HP PRoliant DL380 g6, but he don't show me eth0-4 |
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| 12:36.52 | alami | do i need only to install drivers? |
| 12:36.58 | mumpitzel | what ethernet interfaces does it have (lspci -nn) |
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| 12:43.39 | alami | mumpitzel:broadcom netxtreme IIbcm5709 gigabit ethernet |
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| 12:43.56 | abrotman | it has a PCIID also |
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| 12:44.26 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell alami about bcm5709 |
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| 12:52.53 | Raazeer | hi all, I've got a little research going, I'd appreciate if you could pop over and vote on this poll: http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=51f65fd0e4b07e593b7e2712 |
| 12:53.10 | Raazeer | sorry for what is strictly speaking OT, but I need the input of linux geeks. |
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| 12:54.42 | mumpitzel | fuck off |
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| 12:56.15 | Raazeer | mumpitzel, thanks for your kind support :) |
| 12:56.35 | mumpitzel | that's not support you spammer |
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| 12:57.45 | alami | mumpitzel: i have now already install debian without networking, should i reinstall with the new firmware? |
| 12:58.14 | mumpitzel | alami: no. you should install the firmware |
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| 13:00.26 | gchristensen | hi - is it safe to have an apt repo which has credentials in the URL? If that file is secured, could someone witwh access to the machine otherwise get access to the credentials? |
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| 13:01.12 | mumpitzel | gchristensen: sources.list is world readable |
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| 13:03.38 | gchristensen | I'm guessing I shouldn't change that, mumpitzel? |
| 13:04.20 | Th0masR0ss | I've got a bunch of .desktop files that are missing the application that goes with it. Is there anything I can do to remove them automagically or do I need to do it by hand? |
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| 13:06.02 | Raazeer | mumpitzel, well don't expect this "spammer" to share his debian savvy on this channel then. |
| 13:06.12 | stree | er, expect, or if you ever used google translator? |
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| 13:06.27 | mumpitze1 | we don't need spammers here |
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| 13:07.43 | Raazeer | mumpitze1, if I'm a spammer, then you are a troll. |
| 13:07.53 | babilen | mumpitze1, Raazeer: Lets move on please - Polls like that are really not welcome, but do not merit such a harsh response either. |
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| 13:08.18 | themill | Raazeer: please don't spam links in the channel. Also, if you're going to conduct polls, you might like to check that the terminology they use is at least vaguely correct. |
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| 13:09.33 | Raazeer | Well, if either of you can offer me a solution that allows me to adress debian and ubuntu users in a way that WON'T give offense? |
| 13:10.27 | themill | Start by trying to collect meaningful data and spend some time learning how it is currently done and why. |
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| 13:11.07 | Raazeer | themill, PLEASE don't try to teach me demographics... |
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| 13:12.04 | Th0masR0ss | Raazeer: stop. |
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| 13:15.10 | Th0masR0ss | can anyone help me? |
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| 13:17.04 | mase76 | hi! can somebody help me with an alsa problem? i have 3 soundcards in my system. one is ALC887-VD, one is Nvidia-HDMI and one is USB-audio. the first 2 are handled by snd-hda-intel. the usb device has index=-2 set. but it happens most times, that the usb device is registered as the second card. the index of -2 only prevents the card being the first one. what can i do, that the usb device is always the last card? |
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| 13:21.14 | Elw3 | Th0masR0ss you should see tha working ones by the icons, if the package is missing so does the icon |
| 13:22.03 | Th0masR0ss | Elw3: yeah |
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| 13:24.47 | Elw3 | mase76 the post in the end might help http://forums.bodhilinux.com/index.php?/topic/2105-solved-usb-soundcard-as-1-card/ |
| 13:25.13 | Elw3 | slightly not debian but as long as it works.... |
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| 13:26.03 | mase76 | Elw: the usb device never be the first card. but often it is the second one. i want this order: analog, hdmi, usb. |
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| 13:27.56 | Elw3 | reading is your job, the answer is at the bottom |
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| 13:28.07 | korn36 | how long will debian update from stable to testing take? there are 1003 packages to install |
| 13:28.27 | onethfour | I just ran out of room on my VM, so I chose to expand it from 8 GB to 25 GB, but it says I need to repartition it inside the OS, I'm on linux debian wheezy, what do I need to do to avoid losing everything? |
| 13:28.46 | Th0masR0ss | back up |
| 13:28.47 | Th0masR0ss | uh |
| 13:29.02 | Elw3 | korn36 mainly depends on how fast your pc/the hd is |
| 13:29.04 | korn36 | onethfour: expand the VM, then boot from any livecd and expand the partition |
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| 13:29.18 | onethfour | how to properly back up? ( copy .vmx file?) |
| 13:29.21 | mumpitze1 | korn36: and how fast your internet is |
| 13:29.42 | korn36 | updates already downloaded, downloading them took 3 minutes |
| 13:29.53 | onethfour | korn36, can I boot from my original install cd? |
| 13:30.01 | Th0masR0ss | onethfour: is the VM software telling you to repartition? |
| 13:30.18 | korn36 | onethfour: you would need to have access to partitioning tools |
| 13:30.30 | korn36 | parted magic would be a good livecd |
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| 13:30.56 | Daulity | could someone help me out with my wifi problem :)? I am trying to connect to a wireless network it asked for the passphrase i entered it, now it's trying to connect but won't, en retrying the whole time, any ideas? |
| 13:31.37 | korn36 | onethfour: parted magic is small; only 315MB |
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| 13:34.37 | milo64 | hey |
| 13:35.22 | milo64 | if i think i'm gonna re-install debian, how can I backup my private PGP key? Just copy .gnupg to a flash drive? |
| 13:35.44 | ehteraap | not with symmetric encryption... |
| 13:36.03 | alami | how can i install this /lib/firmware/bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.1.fw |
| 13:36.03 | ehteraap | but yes you can :-) |
| 13:36.09 | babilen | milo64: yeah, you need your private keyring |
| 13:36.26 | milo64 | ehteraap: okay, what's the proper way to do this? |
| 13:36.27 | babilen | dpkg: tell alami -about apt-file |
| 13:36.31 | babilen | dpkg: tell alami -about search |
| 13:36.45 | jelly-home | might want to tell him about non-free sources as well |
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| 13:37.05 | babilen | alami: Unurprisingly it is in firmware-bnx2 |
| 13:37.07 | mase76 | Elw3: i want to get the usb device as last one (3rd), not the first one. |
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| 13:37.35 | alami | babilen: i don't have internet to install apt-file |
| 13:37.36 | Elw3 | you know the method also works in reverse .... |
| 13:37.41 | DelphicOkami | Is there anyway Ito list the services on my server (ie things I can service <service> start) |
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| 13:38.10 | onethfour | Th0masR0ss, yes the vm software is telling me to repartition, why? |
| 13:38.34 | milo64 | what's the proper way to backup my private PGP key and stuff I need if i wanted to re-install my box? |
| 13:39.12 | babilen | alami: Then search on http://packages.debian.org - The installer should have asked you for this firmware and it would, probably, have been a good idea to either use an image with firmware (/msg dpkg firmware image) or provide it during the installation (/msg dpkg installer firmware) -- But then, right now all you have to do is to install the firmware-bnx2 package. |
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| 13:39.29 | Th0masR0ss | onethfour: what vm program are you using? |
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| 13:39.52 | babilen | alami: You might want to download the firmware package for wheezy (as detailed in the install guide) from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current/ |
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| 13:40.40 | onethfour | Th0masR0ss, vmware workstation |
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| 13:40.59 | korn36 | Is there a command to fix broken dependencies? |
| 13:41.16 | korn36 | cause upgrade from wheezy to jessie damaged some gpu drivers |
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| 13:41.19 | stree | korn36 jessie |
| 13:41.25 | Th0masR0ss | onethfour: ok, I think it just wants you to partition the OS, so that the OS uses all the free space created by the resizing of the "hard drive" |
| 13:41.45 | onethfour | Th0masR0ss, how do i do that |
| 13:41.53 | onethfour | i was going to use this "Parted Magic" thing |
| 13:42.01 | Th0masR0ss | onethfour: use that then |
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| 13:42.16 | tumi | nii o |
| 13:42.22 | Th0masR0ss | onethfour: http://partedmagic.com/doku.php |
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| 13:42.32 | lokote_jones | Does there exist a code review of Debian and the security in Debian? Like has anyone ever looked for backdoors or suspicious code or behavior and if so is it documented and able to be read by a layman? |
| 13:43.02 | lokote_jones | I know Ubuntu and their ad-ware thing got lambasted by Stallman; but I was wondering if just raw debian has a security centric discussion forum or something? |
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| 13:43.20 | babilen | korn36: That really shouldn't have happened. Which drivers are you referring to, how are they broken (exactly!) and how did you install them in the first place? You should also ask in #debian-next rather than here as that is where we support testing/unstable explicitly (cf. /topic) -- Paste relevant information to http://paste.debian.net please |
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| 13:44.06 | Th0masR0ss | babilen: they /quit'd |
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| 13:44.44 | babilen | Th0masR0ss: yeah, I should clearly type even faster ... |
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| 13:45.04 | Th0masR0ss | babilen: lol |
| 13:45.07 | martin__ | is there in debian no public folder like in windows? |
| 13:45.25 | martin__ | "proper" public folder for user files |
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| 13:45.42 | babilen | martin__: Who should be able to access that and how would that work? |
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| 13:46.27 | babilen | martin__: Several file managers/desktop environments allow you to "share" directories (! the terminology is different on *nix) via CIFS/SMB if that is what you mean. |
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| 13:46.54 | babilen | martin__: But then you could be talking about websites that are hosted from the home directory (in ~/public_html) or something entirely different |
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| 13:47.57 | kolibri_user | hi |
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| 13:55.00 | keebler | Trying to install Debian 7.1 amd64 using the lxde-cd1.iso w/ a single striped array, followed the instructions here http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid and get all the way to the end, but when it calls for installing grub to account for the raid "update-grub" and "install-grub" are not found. |
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| 13:58.16 | mmc | given a binary pkg, how to get the name of the source pkg? |
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| 13:59.44 | theothertom | mmc: if it's an official one, packages.debian.org should help you |
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| 14:03.31 | onethfour | Th0masR0ss, i donwloaded parted magic ISO, connected it to my VM, but when i reboot my box, it doesn't load?? |
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| 14:04.32 | mmc | theothertom: no, not an official one. |
| 14:06.50 | jhutchins | onethfour: Either it's a bad burn or your BIOS isn't trying the disc. |
| 14:07.16 | themill | mmc: the header for /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.Debian.gz should show that, but outside of Debian, there's not a general requirement that a binary package is even generated from a source package |
| 14:07.37 | onethfour | jhutchins, is this the correct download page??? i spent like 20 min downloading it: http://sourceforge.net/projects/partedmagic/?source=dlp |
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| 14:09.04 | Th0masR0ss | onethfour: is your boot order correct? |
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| 14:09.20 | onethfour | i dont know how do i check? |
| 14:09.23 | jhutchins | onethfour: check the md5sum of the iso file. If that's good, it could be that the burn wasn't good. In Linux you can check the md5sum of the disk, in Windows your burner software might be able to verify it. |
| 14:09.24 | onethfour | oh bios? |
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| 14:09.31 | Th0masR0ss | onethfour: go into your bios |
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| 14:10.18 | jhutchins | onethfour: Or boot menu. Most modern systems have something like F12 to choose the boot device. |
| 14:10.34 | Th0masR0ss | ^ |
| 14:10.40 | Th0masR0ss | loves the F12 feature |
| 14:10.45 | stepkrav | Hello. After an automatic upgrade, some importan packages (for example gnome) are marked as unnecessary. Apt suggests to remove them with apt-get autoremove but i want to keep them. Ideas? |
| 14:10.46 | mmc | themill: but, could I add a field into the .dsc file (to carry that information about source pkg (version))? |
| 14:10.53 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: you know that they're using a VM, right? |
| 14:11.21 | babilen | stepkrav: Could you show us the relevant information (along with your sources.list and "apt-cache policy" output on http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 14:11.35 | jhutchins | Th0masR0ss: Making both F12 and the BIOS irrelevant. Boot settings for the VM. |
| 14:11.37 | babilen | stepkrav: And how exactly was that upgrade "automatic" ? |
| 14:11.49 | Th0masR0ss | jhutchins: yeah |
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| 14:12.28 | whoops | Hi, I've installed a minimal system from a netinst CD |
| 14:12.35 | stree | a minimal stable debian and ubuntu do |
| 14:12.39 | Th0masR0ss | onethfour: http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1003558 |
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| 14:13.05 | Th0masR0ss | uh maybe i should've bit.ly'd that |
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| 14:13.21 | whoopss | and it's fine, I have a text environment. So the first thing I did was sudo apt-get install icewm |
| 14:13.29 | whoopss | and it appeared to succeed. |
| 14:13.35 | whoopss | But now I have no idea how to start X |
| 14:14.11 | Th0masR0ss | whoopss: "startx" |
| 14:14.16 | Th0masR0ss | runs |
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| 14:14.27 | stepkrav | babilen, https://paste.debian.net/19527/ . Yeah, automatic was the update then i upgraded without paying attention to packages. :( |
| 14:14.47 | onethfour | cool parted magic is up and running! |
| 14:14.47 | whoopss | Th0masR0ss: command not found |
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| 14:15.49 | babilen | stepkrav: that looks quite alright -- Which packages from those that are scheduled for removal would you like to keep? |
| 14:16.00 | whoopss | Th0masR0ss: any clue what i might do? |
| 14:16.05 | Th0masR0ss | whoopss: odd. aptitude search x-window-manager |
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| 14:16.19 | Th0masR0ss | actually |
| 14:16.48 | whoopss | p matchbox-w-mgr - w m for resource-limited systems |
| 14:16.54 | Th0masR0ss | whoopss: try /usr/X11R6/bin/startx |
| 14:16.56 | whoopss | v x-w-mgr - |
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| 14:16.57 | Th0masR0ss | er |
| 14:17.00 | Th0masR0ss | no dont do that |
| 14:17.04 | whoopss | Th0masR0ss: as root? |
| 14:17.07 | Th0masR0ss | whoopss: are you root? |
| 14:17.09 | whoopss | don't do what? |
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| 14:17.11 | stepkrav | babilen, hm. i thought all the gnome-* packages should be important. |
| 14:17.12 | stree | sting you dont need because i am having a issue with boot |
| 14:17.14 | whoopss | i'm sudo-authorized... |
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| 14:17.20 | Th0masR0ss | whoopss: run su |
| 14:17.56 | whoopss | Th0masR0ss: umm, i can't... during installation, I disabled the root account |
| 14:18.21 | Th0masR0ss | well that was silly. |
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| 14:19.17 | babilen | stepkrav: If they are important to you then you should mark them as automatically installed, but then removing them is not a real problem. You might actually go through with the removal and install whatever you are missing later on. |
| 14:19.28 | babilen | stepkrav: I mean: I can't tell you what you want to have installed. |
| 14:19.48 | stepkrav | ok i got it. thanks a lot babilen |
| 14:19.49 | Th0masR0ss | whoopss: do you have the x-window-system package? |
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| 14:20.23 | whoopss | how can i see the status of the package? |
| 14:20.35 | onethfour | ok i got parted magic up and running and i have an "unallocated" partition of 17 GiB, i also have /dev/sda1 which is my main partition of 7.62 GiB, how do i extend sda1 to use the unallocated space? (i tried the resize feature but it still had 8 GB maximum (instead of 25GB)) |
| 14:20.45 | jordanm | whoopss: apt-cache policy <package> |
| 14:21.34 | jordanm | onethfour: you can't unless the free space is directly after sda1 |
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| 14:21.58 | onethfour | ????? |
| 14:22.01 | babilen | stepkrav: So, I'd run a "apt-get --purge autoremove" for now and then just install whatever you are missing later. You can also mark whatever you don't want to see removed as manually installed by running "apt-get install PKG" or by using apt-mark |
| 14:22.06 | onethfour | then how am i supposed to add space to my VM?? |
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| 14:23.08 | jordanm | if you used LVM, you can create a second partition and just add it to the VG |
| 14:23.16 | Th0masR0ss | whoopss: also see http://www.icewm.org/FAQ/IceWM-FAQ-3.html |
| 14:23.49 | Th0masR0ss | whoopss: try icewm-session |
| 14:25.31 | onethfour | LVM? |
| 14:25.33 | onethfour | i use vmworkstation |
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| 14:33.50 | onethfour | jordanm, so there is no possible way to simply make my 8GB VM harddisk bigger into a 25 GB ? |
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| 14:37.01 | ChrisH | onethfour: first of all, if you have LVM in place its simple. If not, you might can increase the partition and run resize2fs / afterwards. But then the partition must be continous. |
| 14:37.25 | jordanm | onethfour: what VM software and disk format? |
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| 14:38.46 | onethfour | jordanm, VMWARE workstation, VMX multiple files |
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| 14:43.16 | bullgard4 | ArchLinux offers a package »gvfs-afc«. Why does Debian wheezy not need that too? https://www.archlinux.org/packages/?name=gvfs-afc |
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| 14:43.45 | Th0masR0ss | bullgard4: because debian is not arch linux. |
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| 14:44.20 | bullgard4 | Th0masR0ss: Congratulations! |
| 14:44.36 | babilen | bullgard4: Why do you think Debian should have that package? |
| 14:44.42 | Th0masR0ss | |
| 14:44.45 | Th0masR0ss | er wat |
| 14:45.21 | bullgard4 | babilen: For mobile devices |
| 14:45.33 | Th0masR0ss | ... |
| 14:45.41 | whooops | Th0masR0ss: Hi, sorry about that. |
| 14:45.43 | whooops | i only have one cord |
| 14:45.45 | stree | i dont know sorry :( |
| 14:45.58 | whooops | and i'm sharing it between the debian system i'm troubleshooting right now. |
| 14:46.06 | whooops | and the machine i'm using to chat with ylou. |
| 14:46.24 | whooops | when i gave it back over to the problem box to install x-win-sys, i had to rely on wifi over here. |
| 14:46.36 | whooops | Which is spotty. |
| 14:46.40 | babilen | bullgard4: Okay, please do the following: 1. Check the files in the Arch Linux package 2. Investigate the packaging of gvfs in Debian 3. Use tools such as apt-file or apt-cache 4. Think 5. PROFIT |
| 14:47.01 | babilen | bullgard4: Also: Why is this important for you? What problem are you trying to solve and what have *you* tried to answer that question? |
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| 14:47.13 | whooops | Anyway, it worked! Though, I can't believe x-w-s isn't a dependency of icewm. Now that I've seen it running though, icewm isn't really what I was hoping for, so I'm gonna go hunting for another one. |
| 14:47.19 | whooops | But thanks to you for your help! |
| 14:47.33 | babilen | bullgard4: So, do all that and then answer again: Why do you think Debian should have that particular package ? |
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| 14:48.45 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: no problem |
| 14:48.47 | onethfour | doesn't this do it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/115310/how-to-resize-enlarge-grow-a-non-lvm-ext4-partition |
| 14:48.54 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: you might be looking for a full de |
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| 14:49.07 | Th0masR0ss | !tell whooops about de |
| 14:49.16 | whooops | I need something very light and uncomplicated. |
| 14:49.36 | Th0masR0ss | Er. |
| 14:49.37 | whooops | !tell Th0masR0ss about de |
| 14:49.42 | Th0masR0ss | Damnit, not German |
| 14:49.54 | Th0masR0ss | !tell whooops about desktop environment |
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| 14:50.40 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: also see http://debian.org/wiki/desktopenvironment |
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| 14:50.52 | Th0masR0ss | Or don't, because that's a 404 |
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| 14:52.02 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: see http://wiki.debian.org/DesktopEnvironment |
| 14:52.42 | whooops | Th0masR0ss: thanks. |
| 14:52.49 | whooops | I think i'll go with xfce |
| 14:52.55 | whooops | but what does xfce4 install with it? |
| 14:53.15 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: /msg judd ,depends xfce4 |
| 14:53.26 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: http://wiki.debian.org/Xfce |
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| 14:53.37 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: above links shows how to install it |
| 14:53.54 | whooops | I mean, am I going to get a whole bunch of apps and crap with it? |
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| 14:54.29 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: no. I reccommend xfce4-goodies though. |
| 14:54.42 | whooops | ok, Th0masR0ss i may drop out again in a sec. |
| 14:54.43 | whooops | But I'll be back. |
| 14:54.47 | whooops | Gonna go try Xfce now. |
| 14:54.48 | Th0masR0ss | Ok |
| 14:54.50 | whooops | thanks again. |
| 14:54.58 | Th0masR0ss | no problem |
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| 14:56.35 | whooops | yay, i'm getting waaaay better speeds to ftp.cn.deb.org this time. |
| 14:56.48 | whooops | by an order of magnitude! |
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| 14:56.58 | llrealmanll | i wanna to install version 5:0.7.15-dmo1.this is my repositories:http://pastebin.mozilla.org/2737820 |
| 14:57.28 | Th0masR0ss | llrealmanll: install that version of what? |
| 14:58.00 | llrealmanll | Th0masR0ss: ffmpeg |
| 14:58.24 | DelphicOkami | Hi guys I'm getting errors when doing apt-get install php5-mysql what's the best place to find logs to help me debug this? |
| 14:58.32 | Th0masR0ss | llrealmanll: I think you're looking for #ubuntu based on your repositories. |
| 14:58.48 | Th0masR0ss | DelphicOkami: pastebin your errors? |
| 14:59.17 | llrealmanll | whatever.apt-get install FORCEINSTALLDAMNVERSION |
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| 15:00.04 | DelphicOkami | Th0masR0ss: http://pastebin.com/3Mvjihsm |
| 15:00.12 | DelphicOkami | llrealmanll: Yeah I need that command |
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| 15:00.51 | Th0masR0ss | DelphicOkami: aptitude purge php5-mysql |
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| 15:02.14 | DelphicOkami | 8 years of using debian and it's derivatives for my entire architechture. You'd have thought I would think of that ... worked, Thanks Th0masR0ss |
| 15:02.35 | Th0masR0ss | DelphicOkami: no problem |
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| 15:03.22 | DelphicOkami | PHP still complaining that it can't find PDO. I'm going to punch it in the mouth, go have a cigarette then check the include paths |
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| 15:03.56 | Th0masR0ss | DelphicOkami: try #pho |
| 15:03.58 | Th0masR0ss | er |
| 15:04.00 | Th0masR0ss | #php |
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| 15:04.16 | DelphicOkami | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:04.26 | Th0masR0ss | DelphicOkami: what httpd? |
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| 15:04.37 | DelphicOkami | nginx |
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| 15:04.58 | Th0masR0ss | DelphicOkami: try nginx's channel too, if they have one. |
| 15:05.00 | DelphicOkami | 'cos I'm cool <tm> |
| 15:05.02 | DelphicOkami | They do |
| 15:05.04 | DelphicOkami | I will |
| 15:05.05 | DelphicOkami | Thanks |
| 15:05.17 | Th0masR0ss | no problem |
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| 15:09.50 | whooops | x4-goodies actually isn't bad at all. |
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| 15:10.00 | whooops | i'm gonna install it now. |
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| 15:11.07 | llrealmanll | Th0masR0ss: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg=5:0.7.15-dmo1. this is a simple answer.dosent matter ubuntu, debian, mint, blah blah blah... |
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| 15:14.32 | Th0masR0ss | !tell llrealmanll about ubuntu |
| 15:14.48 | Th0masR0ss | ubuntu is NOT debian and NOT supported in #debian |
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| 15:16.18 | StaticLNX | how can I find a server thats running on boot in screen that I have no clue how it was started but see it with ps -A? |
| 15:17.00 | llrealmanll | Th0masR0ss: my question is not specific for ubuntu. its about APT-GET and APT-GET is core in core of DEBIAN |
| 15:17.25 | Th0masR0ss | llrealmanll: yes, your distro is ubuntu so you are out of support in #debian |
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| 15:17.57 | phooma | Hello everyone. I'm trying to activate SELinux under wheezy. Unfortunately I'm getting lots of errors for udev-acl, udevd sed, colord-sane, colord, anacron, start-stop-daemon ... I don't want to just audit2allow them all blindly |
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| 15:19.24 | Th0masR0ss | phooma: try #selinux |
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| 15:19.57 | Th0masR0ss | !tell phooma about selinux |
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| 15:20.59 | phooma | Th0masR0ss: aye |
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| 15:49.24 | whooops | Th0masR0ss: In the netinst CD graphical installler, when I get to "sw selection," what does "debian desktop env" refer to? is it xfce? |
| 15:49.38 | EKDK | Seem to have a problem when booting a clean install of Wheezy on a HP XW8600 with LSI 1068 sas controller with 3disks in raid 0, doesnÂ’t seem to boot grub (blank screen) any suggestions? |
| 15:50.33 | alami | sorry i have read this http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware, i don't know how to install the missing firmware |
| 15:50.35 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: I haven't used netinst so I don't know. This says something about it though: http://wiki.debian.net/Xfce |
| 15:50.42 | Th0masR0ss | uh |
| 15:50.51 | Th0masR0ss | gah I'm awful a giving wiki links |
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| 15:51.37 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: http://wiki.debian.org/Xfce |
| 15:52.00 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: more specifically http://wiki.debian.org/Xfce#Install_a_fresh_system_with_Xfce |
| 15:52.07 | whooops | oh, crap. u need to do it before this stage |
| 15:52.18 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: just restart the installer |
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| 15:52.31 | whooops | Then I have to redownload a bunch of crap on my connection. |
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| 15:52.42 | whooops | But I think I'll still do it. |
| 15:53.33 | Th0masR0ss | whooops: try http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.1.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso instead if you want something easier |
| 15:53.35 | alami | can any one tell me how to intall my ethernet firmware |
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| 15:54.26 | onethfour | how hard is it to install a GUI on a non-gui installation? |
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| 15:55.16 | Th0masR0ss | onethfour: not hard |
| 15:55.18 | mtn | alami: did you try the debian wiki for ideas? what have you tried? what card/chip? |
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| 15:56.26 | alami | mtn: i have read this http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
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| 15:56.38 | alami | and i have download the firmware that i need |
| 15:56.49 | alami | and now i don't know how to go forward |
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| 15:56.58 | jordanm | onethfour: apt-get install kde-standard # easy |
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| 15:57.23 | mtn | alami: what firmware? file name? what did the instructions tell you to do? |
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| 15:58.12 | alami | mtn:http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.1.fw |
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| 15:59.19 | mtn | alami: did you install firmware-bnx2? |
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| 15:59.58 | alami | mtn: how?? i don't have internet, that's my ethernet driver |
| 16:00.44 | mtn | alami: you are on the internet right now and could download the package and put it on a disk of some sort and then install it with dpkg on the computer that needs it. |
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| 16:01.34 | mtn | alami: so, was your real question how do I install software without an internet connection? |
| 16:01.54 | alami | mtn:sorry i'm drunking a little bit :) |
| 16:01.59 | alami | thanks a lot mtn |
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| 16:05.01 | keebler | Trying to install Debian 7.1 amd64 using the lxde-cd1.iso w/ a single striped array, followed the instructions here http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid and get all the way to the end, but when it calls for installing grub to account for the raid "update-grub" and "install-grub" are not found. |
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| 16:07.15 | Th0masR0ss | keebler: "Complete the installation. Using the Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" installer, GRUB installation succeeds. Some report that GRUB installation fails, but that is OK. GRUB needs to be reinstalled either way. If GRUB installation fails, select "continue without bootloader" to complete the Debian installation. " |
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| 16:07.39 | Th0masR0ss | "Some report that grub installation fails, but that is OK" |
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| 16:11.09 | keebler | Th0masR0ss: Ah, and it does indeal fail. |
| 16:11.39 | keebler | Th0masR0ss: But following the next step, is not possible when described as it is in the document. |
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| 16:12.33 | Th0masR0ss | keebler: why not? |
| 16:12.35 | keebler | I can boot into the Rescue Mode, and it does indeed detect my dmraid array, and allows me to select my root partition. |
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| 16:13.21 | keebler | but when I enter into the CLI and type "update-grub", the command does not exist. Nor does grub-install. |
| 16:13.25 | keebler | nor apt-get |
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| 16:14.20 | Th0masR0ss | hm |
| 16:14.56 | keebler | This is the frist time I've used Debian in a production server since 1999. |
| 16:14.59 | flan | keebler, for those to work, /usr/sbin needs to be in PATH or you need to explicitly provide the full path with the utility's name. |
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| 16:16.07 | stevied | hi, i'm in need of emergency help with my webserver |
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| 16:16.58 | flan | Tell us what you're running and what's wrong, stevied. |
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| 16:21.05 | keebler | flan: I'll look at the PATH when I return. I know I checked /sbin, and thought I checked /usr/sbin, but I'll check again. |
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| 16:32.04 | lahwran | test |
| 16:32.18 | flan | Test successful. You are in the Internet. |
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| 16:34.40 | Th0masR0ss | If I don't have any screensaver application how can I make my computer sleep (screen blank, lock computer) when I close the lid (its a laptop) |
| 16:35.03 | sambuco | hi, i cant configure libnotify plugin for pidgin on debian wheezy using fluxbox, where is the plugin, i need to download and compile it ? |
| 16:35.28 | Th0masR0ss | sambuco: aptitude install libnotify-bin? |
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| 16:36.11 | sambuco | Th0masR0ss: there is not libnotify plugin for pidgin, just the libnotify-bin cmd .. |
| 16:36.23 | sambuco | like notify-send |
| 16:36.24 | flan | Th0masR0ss, that's something you can usually configure through whatever desktop-environment you're using. If not, look into ACPI hook-scripts. |
| 16:36.32 | themsay | How do I check aide in debian? I did aide --check and it show Couldn't open file /var/lib/aide/please-dont-call-aide-without-parameters/aide.db for reading. |
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| 16:36.53 | Th0masR0ss | flan: I'm using Xfce. |
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| 16:38.32 | olskolirc | What do you guys think about Adobe reader? Adobe says security patches are available http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb13-15.html is it ok? |
| 16:39.30 | flan | Th0masR0ss, you might want to look at either pm-utils or acpid. From what I recall of XFCE, it has scripts that can be invoked from an arbitrary shell context and affect the DE. |
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| 16:41.49 | Th0masR0ss | flan: ok. When I use suspend, it makes my screen blank and I need to force reboot to get back to X and the terminal |
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| 16:42.59 | themsay | I read aide man page but noting about the command. I notice debian command is defferent from do one I see one there aide webpage. Pls any help? |
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| 16:45.12 | flan | Th0masR0ss, that affects one of my laptops regularly, to the point that I cannot use suspend on it. It's an issue with how ACPI is implemented for specific hardware (ACPI is a mess, internally, with vendors doing their own thing all over the place). I am afraid that I cannot help you with that particular behaviour. |
| 16:45.40 | flan | But, if you find an answer, please let me know. |
| 16:46.27 | Th0masR0ss | Ok. |
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| 16:50.04 | james41382 | I want to add some nice wallpapaer to the stock collection on Wheezy. It looks like they are stored in /usr/share/backgrounds/gnome. I put some there, but I don't see them when I bring up Background. I tried logging out/in, but still not there. Do I need to reboot? |
| 16:51.13 | Th0masR0ss | james41382: you could ask #debian-gnome |
| 16:51.22 | james41382 | Th0masR0ss: okay. |
| 16:51.37 | mtn | james41382: you can use files that are in your home folder for backgrounds, if that will help. |
| 16:52.20 | james41382 | Th0masR0ss: it's empty.. lol |
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| 16:52.54 | james41382 | mtn: yeah i moved them to the pictures folder, but this way i lose the options to have them change automatically. |
| 16:53.00 | Th0masR0ss | james41382: uh |
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| 16:53.27 | Th0masR0ss | james41382: sorry, #debian-gnome on irc.debian.net |
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| 16:53.42 | james41382 | Th0masR0ss: oh i see.. |
| 16:53.58 | Th0masR0ss | I mean irc.debian.org |
| 16:53.58 | Th0masR0ss | I give up |
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| 16:57.29 | olskolirc | I need a pdf where I can do highlighting and notes. Anyone know? |
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| 16:57.50 | olskolirc | and where do I change the window frame from gtk on kde |
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| 16:59.17 | jordanm | olskolirc: okular can do annotations |
| 17:00.01 | jordanm | olskolirc: what do you mean by the window frame? |
| 17:00.20 | olskolirc | my firefox is boxy and flat like windows 98 :-( |
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| 17:00.34 | olskolirc | I want to change the gtk look but I don't see that option like i used to |
| 17:00.40 | olskolirc | in system menu |
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| 17:07.33 | maroloccio | hi. i am using kernel 3.9 from wheezy-backports and virtualbox. installation fails: build of vboxdrv.ko failed for 3.9-0.bpo... |
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| 17:09.45 | olskolirc | As of July 22 maroloccio it's a bug http://www.newswebreader.com/linux.debian.kernel/Bug#717524-marked-as-done-%28linux-image-3-2-0-4-amd64-ath9k-fails-on-some-bootups%29/14605 |
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| 17:10.12 | olskolirc | oh, sorry |
| 17:10.44 | llocani | Hello |
| 17:11.45 | maroloccio | olskolirc: what can i do? |
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| 17:12.38 | olskolirc | sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup |
| 17:12.38 | olskolirc | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:12.38 | llocani | i'm looking for some help installing a gforce4 mx4000 nvidia driver |
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| 17:14.28 | llocani | When i type modprobe nvidia it givesme error no such device |
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| 17:15.13 | marco1 | 2~ |
| 17:15.14 | llocani | I've use the nvidia legacy 96xx wich support list includes my board |
| 17:15.16 | marco1 | http://sprunge.us/AURS |
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| 17:31.53 | dorphalsig | Hello, I am trying to set an iSCSI NAS directly attached to a debian (squeeze) server |
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| 17:32.20 | dorphalsig | however I cant seem to authenticate to the NAS2026 I was wondering if anybody can give me a hand |
| 17:32.24 | chrisirc | Hi. I know there is a way to tell "less" to position the line with the next result of a search in another line than the one at the top of the screen, |
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| 17:32.34 | chrisirc | because I've used that in the past, but I can't find that option anymore. |
| 17:32.37 | chrisirc | Anyone knows? |
| 17:33.19 | chrisirc | hm --jump-target might actually be it |
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| 17:34.53 | chrisirc | Alright, it is. Sorry for bothering you. |
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| 17:37.14 | chrisirc | Now if I knew why "export LESS='-j 10'; man foo; " will not make that option be honoured by the less instance that's run by man, that would be good. |
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| 17:38.13 | chrisirc | Also, if there were a way to show the result always in the center of the screen, instead of a certain line? |
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| 17:39.37 | chrisirc | Answer to why export LESS.. is ignored might be that I have a ~/.less file (why env var wouldn't override that seems strange, that would make more sense and is how most tools behave). |
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| 17:42.01 | dorphalsig | Hello. I'm trying to set up a NAS via iSCSI, however when trying to discover it, I get a discovery login rejected |
| 17:42.15 | chrisirc | Also, a key instead of 'n' to jump to the next search result out of the visible range would be nice. |
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| 17:57.19 | jhutchins | dorphalsig: Your problem is likely with the software on the NAS server. Not much we can tell you from the Debian side. |
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| 18:06.27 | pippijn | hi |
| 18:06.40 | pippijn | I'm running mysql 5.5 on debian jessie |
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| 18:08.15 | pippijn | and it's crashing on restart |
| 18:08.23 | pippijn | on computer reboot, it starts |
| 18:09.07 | pippijn | https://paste.xinu.at/Wjc/ <- this is the message |
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| 18:18.49 | DosKey | Question: How do you enable promiscious mode with RTL8191SU ? |
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| 18:20.29 | jordanm | DosKey: ip link set eth0 promisc on |
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| 18:21.03 | jordanm | or just let tcpdump do it for you |
| 18:21.38 | maroloccio | is kernel 3.9 from wheezy-backports just not going to work with virtualbox-4.2? |
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| 18:22.01 | maroloccio | kernel 3.2 from stable works just fine, adding repo to apt/sources.list |
| 18:23.29 | DosKey | jordanm: Definately didn't work |
| 18:23.48 | DosKey | It's for aircrack i need it |
| 18:24.18 | DosKey | By the looks of it i'm using the r8712u driver, is there a serialmonkey patch to enable monitor modesomething? |
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| 18:34.05 | blib | anyone using unison here? |
| 18:34.15 | blib | I need to sync folders between two users. Any ideas how to do this? |
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| 18:38.37 | verysoftoiletppr | hi |
| 18:38.57 | verysoftoiletppr | how can I disable graphics in wheezy to transform it in a headless server? |
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| 18:41.23 | well_laid_lawn | you unplug the monitor to make it headless |
| 18:41.43 | mumpitze1 | you remove the videocard |
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| 18:45.07 | flux242 | verysoftoiletppr: or you can try to disable lightdm from loading - update-rc.d -f lightdm disable |
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| 18:50.07 | devilchaos | abrotman you there dude? |
| 18:50.08 | verysoftoiletppr | flux242 that did the trick thank you |
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| 19:03.50 | abrotman | DeVito_: hi? |
| 19:03.56 | abrotman | DeVito_: sorry, mistab |
| 19:05.03 | Jckf | Is it possible to update the Wheezy kernel "cleanly" (apt?) without going full testing? |
| 19:05.32 | ompaul | !bpo |
| 19:05.32 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable and oldstable distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ to enable and use. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
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| 19:08.17 | calavera1 | Would it be okay if I asked a non-Debian based question/request here? |
| 19:08.18 | Jckf | I'm having major problems with Linux 3.2.0.4 and bridge-utils |
| 19:08.20 | Jckf | Bought a new NIC becaue I thought it was a problem with forcedeth |
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| 19:08.31 | Jckf | But the new Intel NIC I got has the same problem |
| 19:08.44 | calavera1 | I'm doing a term paper regarding software piracy, and I was wondering if I would be able to get your thoughts on it. |
| 19:08.54 | Jckf | The problem being high load average, and network spam when using bridge-utils |
| 19:09.12 | Jckf | ompaul: I'll try a backported kernel and bridge-utils. Thanks |
| 19:09.26 | rryoumaa | calavera1: tehre is a channel for offtopic debian |
| 19:09.44 | calavera1 | What is the channel? |
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| 19:09.58 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.06 | calavera1 | Okay. Thank you. |
| 19:13.58 | jhutchins | Jckf: Define "network spam", that's not a meaningful term. |
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| 19:16.41 | Jckf | jhutchins: I'm not entirely sure what the traffic is exaclty, as I haven't lookd at it. But it takes down my router and modem, and all other network devices lose connectivity |
| 19:16.47 | Jckf | *looked |
| 19:17.41 | Jckf | But the switches as blinking so fast it almost appears like a solid light |
| 19:18.15 | Jckf | *are blinking |
| 19:18.25 | SmashingX | do you guys know of a good vpn service free for linux/ |
| 19:18.30 | SmashingX | that can recommend |
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| 19:18.39 | Jckf | Define "VPN service" |
| 19:18.49 | Jckf | Something you host, or an external service you connect to? |
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| 19:19.28 | SmashingX | external service for anonymous surfing |
| 19:19.34 | jhutchins | Jckf: Bringing up the bridge triggers this? |
| 19:19.56 | jhutchins | Jckf: What is the bridge for? |
| 19:20.07 | Jckf | jhutchins: Not every time. The first time it's brought up after a clean boot is okay, but if I ifdown && ifup the bridge, then all hell breaks loose |
| 19:20.18 | Jckf | jhutchins: I was going to use it for LXC containers |
| 19:21.27 | socomm | SmashingX: no such thing as a free lunch |
| 19:21.38 | SmashingX | ?? |
| 19:21.41 | jhutchins | Jckf: Anything in dmesg? |
| 19:21.58 | socomm | SmashingX: and generally speaking you shouldn't trust anyone to anonymize you |
| 19:21.59 | jhutchins | SmashingX: The only thing I know of is TOR. |
| 19:21.59 | SmashingX | so there are free vpn services for mac and windows but no for windows? |
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| 19:22.01 | jhutchins | !tor |
| 19:22.01 | dpkg | The Onion Router (Tor) is a low-latency anonymous communication system. Packaged for Debian, only enables the onion proxy by default. Tor is not allowed on freenode's #debian (http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#tor), ask me about <tor-sasl>. https://torproject.org/ #tor on irc.oftc.net. |
| 19:22.02 | SmashingX | wow |
| 19:22.42 | jhutchins | SmashingX: Linux can work with windows VPN. TCP/IP is TCP/IP, it doesn't care what the OS is. |
| 19:22.44 | SmashingX | but that a proxy service |
| 19:23.20 | SmashingX | but according to those websites that offer vpn service they say they only support windows or mac |
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| 19:23.29 | SmashingX | I guess because of the software you have to instal |
| 19:23.31 | socomm | SmashingX: alot of the 'anonimizers' give the users false sense of anonimity |
| 19:24.01 | SmashingX | that sucks |
| 19:24.10 | SmashingX | even BTguard? |
| 19:24.12 | SmashingX | lol |
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