| 00:00.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1226] by debhelper |
| 00:00.13 | *** part/#debian vvz (~vvz@87.112.182.75) |
| 00:00.16 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@46.217.83.201) |
| 00:02.08 | *** join/#debian vvz (~vvz@87.112.182.75) |
| 00:02.42 | _blackjack_ | vectr0n maybe its already set, i just dont know how to activate it somehow? |
| 00:03.07 | vectr0n | _blackjack_: if its already been set just reboot your vps from the web panel |
| 00:03.13 | vectr0n | it should show up, if not contact the vps provider support :) |
| 00:04.03 | _blackjack_ | i mean vectr0n, do you know any command to see which active ips are active? |
| 00:04.10 | _blackjack_ | so i can confirm |
| 00:04.46 | vectr0n | _blackjack_: ifconfig |
| 00:04.47 | vectr0n | should show them |
| 00:05.51 | *** join/#debian imunsie (~imunsie@ibmaus65.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 00:06.10 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-99-163-5-118.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:07.42 | _blackjack_ | what does vzctl do by the way |
| 00:08.28 | *** part/#debian kesroesweyth (~an0@unaffiliated/kesroesweyth) |
| 00:09.55 | *** join/#debian Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@142.196.83.53) |
| 00:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1217] by debhelper |
| 00:10.01 | *** join/#debian Synthead (~max@mb82036d0.tmodns.net) |
| 00:10.02 | _blackjack_ | vectr0n, your right. it is also in the ifconfig |
| 00:10.11 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Jacob@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 00:10.36 | vectr0n | _blackjack_: then you should be able to ping the additional ip and get a response |
| 00:10.38 | _blackjack_ | do i need to ssh to it? like how i do it on my original ip? |
| 00:10.43 | *** join/#debian th0r (~Thor@24-106-210-67.bhisland.com) |
| 00:11.04 | _blackjack_ | yes it is pinging back |
| 00:11.15 | vectr0n | _blackjack_: depends.. if you haven't set the sshd to bind to a certain ip you can use either to ssh to |
| 00:11.17 | _blackjack_ | vectr0n, you mean, i can connect to it? |
| 00:11.34 | _blackjack_ | i see |
| 00:11.39 | vectr0n | _blackjack_: you should be able to |
| 00:11.51 | _blackjack_ | how do i bnd sshd into it and also use znc to it? |
| 00:12.03 | _blackjack_ | bind* |
| 00:12.47 | *** join/#debian Phivuk (~Phivuk@124.207.123.215) |
| 00:14.10 | vectr0n | _blackjack_: you should have to update the configs to bind ssh to it, /etc/ssh/sshd_config has the option to bind it, as for znc you would just put the second ip in the listen or bind part of ut |
| 00:14.11 | vectr0n | it* |
| 00:14.44 | *** join/#debian brong__ (~brong@operas.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 00:15.26 | OldParr | vectr0n: i am 0.1% sure it will be 6, thanks |
| 00:15.34 | _blackjack_ | vectr0n, i can connect to it too vectr0n. |
| 00:15.54 | _blackjack_ | also same OS and same everything |
| 00:16.01 | vectr0n | OldParr: np :) |
| 00:16.08 | vectr0n | _blackjack_: is the same vps instance :) |
| 00:16.14 | _blackjack_ | maybe my real question now is, how do i make znc see this alternate IPv4? |
| 00:16.26 | *** join/#debian verysoftoiletppr (~verysofto@unaffiliated/softtoiletpaper) |
| 00:16.28 | james41382 | My grub background is not displaying. Anybody care to give me some help? |
| 00:16.34 | *** join/#debian donnerfels (~donnerfel@gateway/tor-sasl/donnerfels) |
| 00:16.36 | _blackjack_ | because i will use it and put a new subdomain for my friend |
| 00:16.41 | OldParr | vectr0n: sorry, i made a mistake: i am 0.1% sure it will be 7+ |
| 00:16.54 | vectr0n | OldParr: good to know :) |
| 00:17.07 | *** join/#debian nomasteryoda (~nomastery@ip68-98-194-236.mc.at.cox.net) |
| 00:17.09 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.45) |
| 00:18.44 | *** join/#debian infernix (~nix@unaffiliated/infernix) |
| 00:18.52 | OldParr | vectr0n: there is 1% probability that a random girl will accept you as a plain "lover" |
| 00:19.29 | vectr0n | OldParr: ahaha good thing i dont swing that way, rofl |
| 00:21.02 | *** join/#debian bfortified (~bfortifie@unaffiliated/bfortified) |
| 00:26.44 | *** join/#debian victor__ (~victor@c-24-8-103-197.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 00:28.46 | *** join/#debian acu (~acu07@24-159-215-150.static.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 00:29.22 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@46.217.83.201) |
| 00:31.15 | *** join/#debian theslow1 (~theslow1@wireless-gw-1.tcc.on.ca) |
| 00:31.55 | theslow1 | I would like to install Wheezy on a RAID 1 array. Is there anything special I need to do when booting from the install disk? |
| 00:32.04 | *** join/#debian desti (~desti@dslb-092-073-135-050.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 00:32.16 | OldParr | the bot in this chanell told me that to upgrade to wheezy i just have to to just replace "squeeze" by "wheezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade, but this page is huge ( http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html ) if you read the page it makes appear the upgrading proccess a lot more difficult than what the bot says |
| 00:32.16 | theslow1 | I have created the logical disk in the bios already |
| 00:32.33 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@rrcs-24-227-146-98.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 00:33.05 | *** join/#debian jiohdi (~jiohdi@pool-173-65-73-184.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:33.58 | *** join/#debian freeminds (~isset___@dslb-094-220-089-069.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 00:34.30 | abrotman | OldParr: it can be .. depends on the system in question |
| 00:34.54 | themill | OldParr: that's not all the bot said. It told you to follow the release notes. |
| 00:35.30 | BCMM | is there a way to find out how much combined disk space is occupied by a package and all of its dependencies? |
| 00:36.20 | themill | BCMM: how should you account for dependencies that are also needed by other packages on the system (like libc6 etc) |
| 00:36.34 | jiohdi | BCMM: if you tell it to uninstall it will tell you how much space you will free up... then just say no |
| 00:36.58 | BCMM | themill: include. i want to know what a system set up solely to run that package would be like |
| 00:37.49 | OldParr | abrotman: themill: i am triying the simple steps that the bot told me |
| 00:38.27 | *** join/#debian |DM| (~Wewt|Mang@unaffiliated/cocomango) |
| 00:38.54 | jiohdi | BCMM: will my suggestion not work for you? |
| 00:38.58 | themill | OldParr: I'd recommend the release notes... |
| 00:39.02 | *** join/#debian drchip (~travis@cpe-70-123-204-134.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 00:39.07 | themill | there's a reason we write them |
| 00:39.15 | BCMM | jiohdi: well, that won't include depedancies also required by other programs... |
| 00:39.15 | *** join/#debian guampa (~guampa@gateway/tor-sasl/guampa) |
| 00:39.31 | *** join/#debian jseeker (~jonthesee@host-72-175-180-134.cra-co.client.bresnan.net) |
| 00:39.38 | gnarface | OldParr: 99% of the time those steps work fine if your sources.list isn't configured as some frankenstein monster |
| 00:39.49 | themill | not true |
| 00:39.58 | jiohdi | BCMM: it will leave those alone of course but you can look up the package in deb package repo and see which packages are not to be removed |
| 00:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1210] by debhelper |
| 00:40.09 | gnarface | OldParr: but the release notes list important known caveats with certain software that you should at least skim, and also ... |
| 00:40.21 | gnarface | OldParr: the release notes will mention a back-out plan |
| 00:40.24 | BCMM | jiohdi: seems like that will involve manually adding up a lot of packages... |
| 00:40.33 | *** join/#debian jeekl (~crz@unaffiliated/jeekl) |
| 00:40.44 | drchip | ok, how do I build an ARM cross compiler on Debian Unstable? |
| 00:40.44 | jiohdi | BCMM: depends on how many dependencies involved. |
| 00:40.46 | themill | BCMM: I still don't know what information you actually want. You've asked for several subtly different things so far. |
| 00:41.05 | BCMM | themill: i don't see how i've asked for several different things... |
| 00:41.08 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:41.18 | jiohdi | BCMM: what is the actual package's name? |
| 00:41.34 | BCMM | i want to know how much space an installed package, and all of it's dependancies (and their dependancies) occupy on disk |
| 00:42.12 | BCMM | i assumed this is roughly the same as the space that would be required for a debian install dedicated to running said package; please correct me if that's wrong |
| 00:42.14 | BCMM | jiohdi: mpd |
| 00:42.38 | themill | BCMM: "i want to know what a system set up solely to run that package would be like" is a completely different question |
| 00:42.50 | BCMM | ah, ok. why? |
| 00:42.54 | *** join/#debian ZetaNeta (~LoCoZeNoz@APoitiers-651-1-270-245.w86-199.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 00:43.03 | *** join/#debian f4cl3y (~f4cl3y@unaffiliated/f4cl3y) |
| 00:43.07 | BCMM | is there a large amount of data in debian that is not owned by any package? |
| 00:43.32 | themill | well a system set up for mpd would also have a pile of other packages on it that aren't dependencies of mpd but are required... a bootloader and a kernel come to mind for starters. |
| 00:43.46 | gnarface | BCMM: ... apt-get will prompt you for a Y or N before installing multiple packages, and it always lists what the total additional used space after installation will be... why is that not sufficient? |
| 00:43.58 | themill | And an init system. And you'd probably want an ssh server. etc. etc. |
| 00:44.22 | gnarface | and games |
| 00:44.26 | gnarface | don't forget the games |
| 00:44.29 | themill | yes! |
| 00:44.57 | BCMM | themill: ah, i guess i sort of assumed that something somewhere had a "must have one of the kernel packages" dep, but i guess not because chroots... |
| 00:44.58 | *** join/#debian troulouliou_dev (~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-dev/x-4757952) |
| 00:45.25 | *** join/#debian chrob (~christoph@chello080108185051.1.12.vie.surfer.at) |
| 00:45.33 | themill | indeed. And permitting people to have custom kernels. |
| 00:45.42 | troulouliou_dev | hi how to configure the close lid option in wheezy ? |
| 00:45.45 | gnarface | yes, debootstrapping into a chroot will blithely install a full system minus the kernel |
| 00:46.09 | gnarface | minus the kernel and boot loader in fact |
| 00:46.36 | jiohdi | bcmm, if I want to install it, it says it will take up 1.19MB of space, there ar only 2 deps listed libaudiofile1 and libmikmod2, deb lists others related to python |
| 00:46.38 | verysoftoiletppr | mount: unknown filesystem type 'xfs' http://paste.debian.net/21192/ |
| 00:46.39 | verysoftoiletppr | help |
| 00:46.51 | BCMM | jiohdi: well, i know it has several dependancies other than that |
| 00:46.54 | BCMM | you just already have them installed |
| 00:47.22 | jiohdi | BCMM: according to the deb list, its mostly python related stuff which would be standard, no? |
| 00:47.37 | themill | jiohdi: fsvo "standard" |
| 00:47.52 | BCMM | ok, this is clearly harder than i thought and i should probably just find out the answer by actually doing it |
| 00:48.33 | BCMM | semi-connectedly, approximately how big is the smallest reasonable debian distro one can install (through debootstrap or otherwise)? |
| 00:48.37 | themill | BCMM: yes... doing it in a cleanish chroot is about the only way, but if exact disk space requirements are important then you probably want a VM |
| 00:48.47 | jiohdi | themill: that is not on the deb package list of deps |
| 00:48.58 | themill | ? |
| 00:49.25 | gnarface | verysoftoiletppr: nobody in here besides me has any sympathy for you trying to shoehorn a non-stock kernel on a 3rd party distro into a proprietary arm device. additionally, nobody sympathetic to your plight is gonna have any advice other than what i gave you already. |
| 00:49.32 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@fsf/member/pipeep) |
| 00:50.01 | gnarface | verysoftoiletppr: if you want yet another opinion try #debian-arm - maybe someone in there has already got a pre-compiled module for that they can just give you |
| 00:50.15 | gnarface | verysoftoiletppr: but be warned; they'll probably be angry about it too |
| 00:50.18 | verysoftoiletppr | gnarface the problem isn't arm I believe |
| 00:50.30 | jiohdi | http://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy/mdp |
| 00:50.30 | *** join/#debian DonRichie (~DonRichie@dslb-094-219-176-051.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 00:50.52 | gnarface | verysoftoiletppr: based on what you told me the other day i'm certain the problem isn't arm. i'm certain the problem is you just want the process to be less confusing than it is, so you're looking for a magic wand type solution that doesn't exist . |
| 00:51.34 | gnarface | verysoftoiletppr: (doesn't exist as far as i know at least; if you discover otherwise though i'd love to hear about it) |
| 00:51.51 | gnarface | verysoftoiletppr: but a stock debian kernel would already have xfs in it, see |
| 00:52.11 | gnarface | verysoftoiletppr: so you lose a lot of sympathy points there right off the bat |
| 00:52.18 | verysoftoiletppr | gnarface this one was srtipped out for size |
| 00:52.28 | gnarface | sure but then its not "debian" anymore |
| 00:52.44 | verysoftoiletppr | gnarface I see |
| 00:52.48 | *** join/#debian tmith (~tmith@207.195.86.175) |
| 00:53.10 | gnarface | imagine you put an aftermarket supercharger on your honda del sol. yes, it will make it very fast. yes, maybe even more fuel efficient; but you'll be hard pressed to get the honda dealership to ever tough it for so much as even an oil change again after that |
| 00:53.32 | gnarface | s/tough/touch/ |
| 00:54.00 | *** join/#debian freeminds (~isset___@static.88-198-96-49.clients.your-server.de) |
| 00:55.25 | *** join/#debian Speed` (~Speed@198.52.247.46) |
| 00:55.29 | themill | jiohdi: btw mpd ≠ mdp and we're talking about binary packages not source packages here. |
| 00:55.45 | jiohdi | sorry dyslexia? |
| 00:55.51 | themill | ;) |
| 00:59.07 | *** join/#debian Olipro (~Olipro@uncyclopedia/pdpc.21for7.olipro) |
| 00:59.15 | *** join/#debian qos (~qos@222.129.51.19) |
| 01:00.09 | *** part/#debian sodiumnitrate (~Adam@cpe-71-64-135-135.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 01:01.52 | *** join/#debian sodiumnitrate (~Adam@cpe-71-64-135-135.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 01:02.55 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 01:03.14 | *** join/#debian Cultist (~Cultist@c-71-194-185-109.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 01:03.48 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@anon-50-10.vpn.ipredator.se) |
| 01:06.44 | OldParr | thanks ... you are very kind people |
| 01:07.13 | dvs | !lart OldParr |
| 01:07.13 | dpkg | gives OldParr a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" |
| 01:10.01 | james41382 | I'm running wheezy with the 3.9 bpo kernel and the / and swp partitions are encrypted. I am not seeing the background (splash) screen when grub loads. Any ideas? |
| 01:10.20 | OldParr | dpkg is a problem child |
| 01:10.20 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, OldParr |
| 01:10.20 | *** join/#debian guampa (~guampa@gateway/tor-sasl/guampa) |
| 01:10.35 | abrotman | ignore the bot |
| 01:13.10 | *** join/#debian Streusel (~Streusel@S01061859334846a2.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 01:13.14 | *** join/#debian Streusel (~Streusel@unaffiliated/streusel) |
| 01:16.41 | *** join/#debian mumpitzel (~mumpitzel@p5B21D256.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:19.10 | *** join/#debian Gerben (~Gerben@62.132.92.10) |
| 01:19.36 | *** join/#debian bitwave (~bitwave@c-68-47-12-21.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 01:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1204] by debhelper |
| 01:20.37 | *** join/#debian jonathanw (~jonthesee@host-72-175-182-243.cra-co.client.bresnan.net) |
| 01:20.49 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@203.126.171.206) |
| 01:20.57 | *** join/#debian k_sze[work] (~kvirc@101.78.178.186) |
| 01:21.15 | jonathanw | lol |
| 01:21.48 | *** join/#debian mattcen (~mattcen_@c122-108-95-188.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 01:21.49 | *** join/#debian oO0Oo (oO0Oo@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tauatfdvyirwwrob) |
| 01:22.12 | *** join/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 01:22.58 | jarray52 | Is it possible to grep for non unicode characters in a directory? |
| 01:23.12 | jarray52 | sorry... for unicode characters |
| 01:24.41 | *** join/#debian monkwitdafunk (~AndChat49@24.114.37.1) |
| 01:24.53 | *** join/#debian bnk (~bnk@unaffiliated/bnk) |
| 01:25.46 | *** part/#debian jonathanw (~jonthesee@host-72-175-182-243.cra-co.client.bresnan.net) |
| 01:26.48 | *** part/#debian bit0 (~josea@61.Red-80-24-119.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 01:27.11 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@unaffiliated/t3oss) |
| 01:27.25 | *** join/#debian monkwitdafunk (~AndChat49@24.114.37.1) |
| 01:28.00 | *** join/#debian monkwitdafunk (~AndChat49@24.114.37.1) |
| 01:28.32 | *** join/#debian foka (~foka@113.252.188.80) |
| 01:31.15 | *** join/#debian rpgdude (~user@ool-44c34c47.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:31.37 | gnarface | jarray52: i think it depends on your tool... not sure if grep has the syntax, but php's regex engine contains unicode marker symbols for matching unicode character classes and stuff, so i'd imagine that feature can be found elsewhere too, just not necessarily in grep itself. |
| 01:31.54 | rpgdude | hey guys, my nfs server running squeeze was working fine for the longest time, now i cant mount my exports |
| 01:32.19 | rpgdude | i installed rpcbind on it to try to fix the problem, but its still not working |
| 01:33.33 | jarray52 | gnarface: Thanks. |
| 01:33.45 | jarray52 | gnarface: I'll look for alternative tools. |
| 01:34.03 | abrotman | rpgdude: no error on the server or client? |
| 01:34.20 | gnarface | jarray52: yea i'd imagine anything with a full PCRE implementation would be a suitable choice. php has that, grep does not. |
| 01:34.36 | gnarface | jarray52: but java and perl are probably just as suitable for this task as php |
| 01:35.00 | gnarface | jarray52: i'd hesitantly say ruby too, but i can't speak from first-hand experience |
| 01:35.17 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@unaffiliated/zipy) |
| 01:35.20 | gnarface | jarray52: (it may actually NOT have a PCRE implementation, i just would be surprised if that was the case still) |
| 01:36.04 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:36.31 | jarray52 | pcregrep... |
| 01:36.46 | gnarface | jarray52: there is such a thing??? |
| 01:36.53 | jarray52 | yup... |
| 01:36.57 | rpgdude | abrotman: there are errors |
| 01:37.02 | gnarface | jarray52: bonus! |
| 01:37.14 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 01:37.21 | rpgdude | abrotman: mount.nfs: requested NFS version or transport protocol is not supported |
| 01:37.27 | jarray52 | apt-cache search pcregrep |
| 01:37.28 | jarray52 | pcregrep - grep utility that uses perl 5 compatible regexes. |
| 01:37.32 | gnarface | jarray52: totally! "grep utility that uses perl 5 compatible regexes." sounds perfect if true |
| 01:38.00 | jarray52 | gnarface: Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. |
| 01:39.56 | gnarface | jarray52: no problem |
| 01:40.10 | abrotman | rpgdude: so what changed? |
| 01:40.55 | *** join/#debian micros (micros@c-50-150-44-131.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 01:41.11 | micros | does anyone know what might cause all of a processes child processes to receive SIGABRT at the same time? We have a starter process, which can kill children with SIGQUIT as required, however, it never sends SIGABRT. When we kill the parent, the children do not die, which is expected behavior so exit of the parent doesnt seem to be the cause. Neither does an out of memory condition (thought |
| 01:41.12 | micros | perhaps all the processes fail on a malloc when unblocking from their receive queues, but this isnt the case either)... ideas? thanks. |
| 01:41.54 | *** join/#debian fideloper (~fideloper@c-76-28-92-81.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 01:44.00 | rpgdude | abrotman: AFIAK, nothing |
| 01:44.11 | rpgdude | *AFAIK |
| 01:44.34 | *** join/#debian Granis (~Granis@c-18c2e455.017-509-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 01:45.59 | *** join/#debian Yakko (~quassel@200-181-92-86.bsace705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 01:46.00 | abrotman | check your /var/log/dpkg.log on the server and the client |
| 01:49.00 | rpgdude | abrotman: idk, new version of host and dnsutils? |
| 01:49.39 | *** join/#debian saintcajetan (~sodalitum@cpe-72-183-246-29.elp.res.rr.com) |
| 01:50.19 | *** join/#debian renebarbosa (~rene@unaffiliated/renebarbosa) |
| 01:54.09 | *** join/#debian bnk (~bnk@unaffiliated/bnk) |
| 01:54.27 | *** join/#debian FreezingCold (~Freeze@198.91.168.144) |
| 01:55.02 | *** join/#debian Pullphinger (~Pullphing@c-24-14-10-198.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 01:55.37 | *** join/#debian th0r (~Thor@24-106-210-67.bhisland.com) |
| 01:55.51 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (~mike@pool-71-166-54-46.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:57.31 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@unaffiliated/zipy) |
| 01:57.58 | *** join/#debian pitelpan (~panagioti@unaffiliated/pitelpan) |
| 02:00.22 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@146-115-183-141.c3-0.wtr-ubr1.sbo-wtr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 02:01.00 | gnarface | micros: just this one idea: why did you expect the child processes to exit just because their parent process did? |
| 02:01.25 | gnarface | micros: sorry, you're way out of my programming depth, its just that i've never observed that as default behavior |
| 02:01.41 | *** join/#debian sparky4 (~sparky4@c-75-65-203-6.hsd1.la.comcast.net) |
| 02:01.52 | sparky4 | aH i have a question! |
| 02:02.16 | *** part/#debian micros (micros@c-50-150-44-131.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 02:02.22 | gnarface | micros: most things seem to leave behind anything they forked off if not cleanly exited so they have a chance to kill their children |
| 02:02.25 | sparky4 | Is it possible to upgrade a debian squeeze system that cannot boot to wheezy using chroot ? |
| 02:02.36 | gnarface | sparky4: sure |
| 02:03.00 | gnarface | sparky4: it might be wiser to fix or at least diagnose whatever is causing it not to boot |
| 02:03.05 | *** join/#debian Granis (~Granis@c-18c2e455.017-509-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 02:04.07 | sparky4 | gnarface: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-0000 is the error message i get |
| 02:05.40 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 02:05.54 | gnarface | sparky4: sorry, no idea. but i used to repair systems like that frequently, so its probably workable, if you can fix what was wrong... |
| 02:06.24 | gnarface | sparky4: for fixing stuff like problems with the boot loader though, it may be important that the image you're chrooting into is on its native boot medium, so you can accsss the MBR |
| 02:06.31 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@unaffiliated/zipy) |
| 02:07.04 | gnarface | sparky4: in which case you are often talking about an open-case process, if you don't have a nice usb enclosure |
| 02:07.12 | gnarface | sparky4: can be a p.i.t.a. |
| 02:07.21 | *** join/#debian colt (~noreply@96.241.64.28) |
| 02:07.25 | gnarface | sparky4: a livecd may be of much use to you in this process though |
| 02:07.38 | sparky4 | gnarface: i have a secondaery backup working partially upgraded debian installation on that harddrive |
| 02:07.39 | gnarface | sparky4: especially if for example the drive in question is your main drive |
| 02:08.19 | *** join/#debian Xom (~Xom@cpe-69-203-222-196.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 02:10.05 | *** join/#debian hashashin (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 02:10.56 | *** join/#debian ZitZ (~paulson@h133.145.101.208.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 02:11.23 | *** part/#debian Xom (~Xom@cpe-69-203-222-196.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 02:11.51 | *** join/#debian atyoung (~atyoung@gateway/tor-sasl/darkwurm) |
| 02:12.54 | *** join/#debian Vicissitude (~Vicissitu@pdpc/supporter/active/vicissitude) |
| 02:13.12 | *** join/#debian Onixs (~Onixs@124.105.107.68) |
| 02:14.23 | *** join/#debian tattoli (~wat@pool-173-70-26-142.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:16.53 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@46.217.83.201) |
| 02:16.54 | *** join/#debian saintcajetan (~sodalitum@cpe-72-183-246-29.elp.res.rr.com) |
| 02:16.57 | *** part/#debian desti (~desti@dslb-092-073-135-050.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 02:17.33 | *** join/#debian bullgard4 (~chatzilla@dslb-088-075-141-110.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 02:17.46 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@unaffiliated/t3oss) |
| 02:19.50 | *** join/#debian bullgard4 (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/bullgard4) |
| 02:27.47 | *** join/#debian neoplus (~smuxi@cm-114-109-204-15.revip13.asianet.co.th) |
| 02:28.11 | *** join/#debian liyuelong (~liyuelong@222.247.190.79) |
| 02:28.19 | *** join/#debian mk2 (~mk2@p114131.doubleroute.jp) |
| 02:30.52 | *** join/#debian monkwitdafunk (~AndChat49@24.114.37.1) |
| 02:31.17 | *** join/#debian monkwitdafunk (~AndChat49@24.114.37.1) |
| 02:31.47 | *** join/#debian monkwitdafunk (~AndChat49@24.114.37.1) |
| 02:32.22 | *** join/#debian monkwitdafunk (~AndChat49@24.114.37.1) |
| 02:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1198] by debhelper |
| 02:41.01 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 02:41.58 | *** join/#debian ZitZ (~paulson@h2.17.214.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 02:42.41 | *** join/#debian smw (~smw@unaffiliated/smw) |
| 02:43.23 | *** join/#debian p014k (~p014k@unaffiliated/p014k) |
| 02:44.35 | *** join/#debian quiron (~quiron@189.61.199.189) |
| 02:44.47 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-67-188-24-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:44.54 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 02:46.20 | *** join/#debian neoplus (~smuxi@cm-114-109-204-15.revip13.asianet.co.th) |
| 02:48.11 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 02:49.45 | *** join/#debian AFlyingMonkey (~chatzilla@CPEbcc810130284-CMbcc810130281.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:50.52 | *** join/#debian TirixTa (~Administr@187.153.54.215) |
| 02:52.38 | *** join/#debian M0ulin (~M0ulin@ANancy-652-1-348-171.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 02:54.09 | *** join/#debian james41382 (~james@c-71-197-239-106.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 02:58.23 | *** join/#debian neoplus (~smuxi@cm-114-109-204-15.revip13.asianet.co.th) |
| 02:58.58 | james41382 | I am running Debian Wheezy with the backport kernel 3.9.0. There are 6 partitions on this drive: dell utils (1), win8 boot (2), win8 fs (3), /boot (4), / (5), swap (6). The grub background does not work and I have been trying to figure out why for the better part of two days, but with no success. If anyone can help I am going to leave this up for at least the rest of today and the first half of tomorrow. / and swap are encrypted vi |
| 02:58.58 | james41382 | a the debian installation with default options. Thanks. |
| 02:59.38 | mumpitzel | what do you mean with "grub background"? |
| 02:59.57 | abrotman | wouldn't hte background be . encrypted? |
| 03:01.14 | james41382 | mumpizel: well i've installed wheezy 4 times. two times there was an image (background) behind the boot menu. but this time it is not there. |
| 03:02.25 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.45) |
| 03:02.32 | Th0masR0ss | File a GRUB bug report? |
| 03:03.11 | james41382 | Th0masR0ss: i know i mentioned this previously and you talked to me about it for a bit. thanks again. i suppose i could, but really i just want it to work. you know? |
| 03:03.49 | Th0masR0ss | yeah, this seems to have been mentioned before by other people |
| 03:03.57 | Th0masR0ss | I don't know the answer |
| 03:04.47 | james41382 | Th0masR0ss: i just think maybe if i mention it around some different rooms a few times i might find the answer. i have been trying #grub too. =] |
| 03:07.33 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy91 (~LinuxGuy9@rrcs-24-227-146-98.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 03:07.48 | *** join/#debian monkwitdafunk (~AndChat49@24.114.26.142) |
| 03:08.18 | *** join/#debian afx_hero (~afx_hero@174.32.173.34) |
| 03:08.18 | *** join/#debian afx_hero (~afx_hero@unaffiliated/afx-hero/x-0829277) |
| 03:08.53 | *** join/#debian th0r (~Thor@24-106-210-67.bhisland.com) |
| 03:09.20 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@77.28.28.141) |
| 03:09.21 | *** join/#debian s4a (~deniz@ip216-239-84-244.vif.net) |
| 03:09.59 | *** join/#debian Azzy (~chatzilla@adsl-75-60-90-131.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:14.16 | jarray52 | When using gdm or kdm, how does one exit xwindows but remain logged in as current user? |
| 03:15.22 | *** join/#debian Azzy (~Maren@adsl-75-60-90-131.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:17.51 | *** part/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 03:20.37 | bazhang | !ops | TirixTa spamming |
| 03:20.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: bazhang complains about: | TirixTa spamming |
| 03:20.46 | *** join/#debian ErrantEgo (~ErrantEgo@freenode/jester/errantego) |
| 03:20.53 | Th0masR0ss | bazhang: er wat |
| 03:21.03 | TirixTa | bazhang is just being a faggot |
| 03:21.05 | TirixTa | ignore him |
| 03:21.10 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 03:21.13 | bazhang | Th0masR0ss, whats not clear about that |
| 03:21.15 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@187.153.54.215] by themill |
| 03:21.16 | *** kick/#debian [TirixTa!~stuart@unaffiliated/themill] by themill (You should know better) |
| 03:21.18 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 03:21.24 | *** part/#debian ErrantEgo (~ErrantEgo@freenode/jester/errantego) |
| 03:21.50 | Th0masR0ss | bazhang: didn't see anything BEFORE you called !ops (at least not in #debian) |
| 03:22.10 | bazhang | Th0masR0ss, multiple PM spam yeah |
| 03:22.17 | Th0masR0ss | ah |
| 03:22.21 | bazhang | np |
| 03:22.33 | themill | bazhang: that's a matter either for staff or for /ignore, however. |
| 03:23.14 | bazhang | themill, thanks; staff seem to be all afk right now |
| 03:23.44 | *** join/#debian MonkWitDaFunk (~yaaic@24.114.26.142) |
| 03:23.55 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-188-210.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 03:23.59 | themill | bazhang: no manner of kick or ban from #debian is going to change pm spam. |
| 03:24.30 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 03:24.34 | bazhang | my sincere apologies themill |
| 03:25.09 | *** join/#debian codesoup (~codesoup@76-10-138-236.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 03:25.34 | *** join/#debian ZitZ (~paulson@h97.56.213.151.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 03:28.10 | *** join/#debian freeayu (~freeayu2@59.56.224.28) |
| 03:28.18 | *** join/#debian basic6_ (~basic6@p549A019C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:30.42 | *** join/#debian karlpinc (~user@meme-net.meme.com) |
| 03:30.45 | *** join/#debian Granis (~Granis@c-18c2e455.017-509-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 03:31.17 | *** mode/#debian [+o themill] by ChanServ |
| 03:31.19 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@187.153.54.215] by themill |
| 03:31.21 | *** mode/#debian [-o themill] by themill |
| 03:32.26 | *** join/#debian AndChat|499956 (~AndChat49@24.114.26.142) |
| 03:32.59 | *** join/#debian AndChat|499956 (~AndChat49@24.114.26.142) |
| 03:33.02 | *** join/#debian crashmag (~crashmag@37.235.50.113) |
| 03:34.17 | *** join/#debian Tabmow (~tabmow@freenode/staff/tabmow) |
| 03:34.25 | karlpinc | Hi. I'm using iceweasel in wheezy and find that the root cert CN=VeriSign Class 3 Public Primary Certification Authority - G5 does not seem to be allowed to sign java code. (I'm running the icetea plugin and getting an untrusted cert popup.) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602107 was supposed to be fixed in ff 16, but iceweasel is 17 and I've got this problem. Is this a bug in iceweasel? I'd like to file a bug but want |
| 03:34.26 | karlpinc | to make sure it gets to the right people. (And it'd sure be nice if this was somehow fixable in wheezy.) Thoughts? |
| 03:35.12 | Th0masR0ss | Use reportbug? |
| 03:36.06 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@c-98-234-55-57.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:36.06 | *** join/#debian magyar (~magyar@unaffiliated/magyar) |
| 03:36.20 | karlpinc | Th0masR0ss: Yah yah, but against iceweasel? Or maybe the cert package? I don't know where iceweasel keeps it's certs or just where the code trusted flag lives. In mozilla there seems to be code that sets this flag, but then you'd think it'd be fixed in iceweasel. |
| 03:36.31 | *** join/#debian Guest92918 (~magyar@c-98-234-55-57.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:36.46 | Th0masR0ss | I use chromium. I don't know |
| 03:39.09 | *** join/#debian diytto (~diytto@24-116-151-103.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 03:41.23 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-70-250-84.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:44.02 | *** join/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 03:44.18 | *** join/#debian Tabmow (~tabmow@freenode/staff/tabmow) |
| 03:44.21 | *** join/#debian Noturno99 (~bruno@216.232.149.240) |
| 03:44.46 | *** join/#debian Vicissitude (~Vicissitu@pdpc/supporter/active/vicissitude) |
| 03:44.50 | Noturno99 | hey guys, how can I reinstall grub from debian? |
| 03:45.13 | jarray52 | What is the best way to use the monitors attached to other computers. I want to use 4 monitors with my laptop. The laptop monitor, laptop external monitor, and 2 monitors attached to another computer. Is xdmx the only solution or is there a more modern solution? |
| 03:45.22 | jarray52 | Noturno99: Did you delete it? |
| 03:45.46 | *** join/#debian relipse (20WACFS3R@24-183-47-51.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 03:46.26 | *** join/#debian Noskcaj10 (~Noskcaj@121.212.10.34) |
| 03:46.56 | karlpinc | Noturno99: There's the grub-install command. Or boot off install media and choose the install grub step. |
| 03:47.10 | Noturno99 | jarray52, no, I just have another grub managed by another linux image on my notebook and I wanna use it by Debian |
| 03:47.30 | karlpinc | jarray52: I know of only xdmx, but am generally clueless. |
| 03:47.58 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@anon-50-10.vpn.ipredator.se) |
| 03:48.03 | karlpinc | Noturno99: If it's managed by the other distro then ask them the best way to add a debian boot option. |
| 03:48.06 | jarray52 | Noturno99: Did you install grub with Debian? |
| 03:48.19 | *** join/#debian iceweasel (~IceWeasel@174-20-140-1.mpls.qwest.net) |
| 03:48.27 | jarray52 | Noturno99: What is the other distro? |
| 03:48.28 | *** join/#debian ledestin (~ledestin@smtp.harbourhealth.org.nz) |
| 03:48.32 | Noturno99 | ubuntu |
| 03:48.36 | karlpinc | jarray52: Any problems with xdmx? I'm just curious. |
| 03:48.39 | *** join/#debian BlaDe^ (~Martin@static.74.124.47.78.clients.your-server.de) |
| 03:48.42 | themill | jarray52: synergy works well |
| 03:48.47 | Noturno99 | I put ubuntu after Debian and now my pc uses ubuntu's grub |
| 03:48.47 | BlaDe^ | Hi guys, can anyone identify the problem i'm having here: http://pastie.org/private/k39mhj5aoxultr3dhwfx9w |
| 03:48.53 | Noturno99 | but I wanna delete ubuntu |
| 03:49.09 | iceweasel | anyone know of video streaming programs besides ffserver? (e.g. with less lag) |
| 03:49.12 | jarray52 | Noturno99: Do you still have the Debian grub but just not being used? |
| 03:49.21 | Noturno99 | jarray52, yes! |
| 03:50.06 | *** join/#debian ChipButty (~T@c-24-21-57-229.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 03:50.22 | Noturno99 | is there a way to change this? |
| 03:50.23 | jarray52 | karlpinc: The documentation and howtos that I found for xdmx were really old and didn't work on the first try. |
| 03:51.18 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.45) |
| 03:51.25 | jarray52 | karlpinc: Just wanted to check with other people before trying an old solution. |
| 03:51.37 | jarray52 | themill: I'll check out synergy |
| 03:51.49 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@netlinux/founder/e1z0) |
| 03:51.58 | themill | it's a slightly different idea to xdmx |
| 03:52.56 | Noturno99 | can I just overwrite the grub from debian? |
| 03:53.40 | *** join/#debian ginger_ (5356e1ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.86.225.202) |
| 03:55.04 | ginger_ | upgraded custom testing install with apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and apt- get dist-upgrade |
| 03:55.27 | ginger_ | now i cant see nm-applet anymore on openbox |
| 03:56.17 | jarray52 | Norturno99: Just use the grub that comes with Debian. That is probably the easiest solution. I've done that before, but it has been quite some time ago. I don't remember the details of the transition. |
| 03:56.38 | *** join/#debian x-treme (~x-treme@unaffiliated/x-treme) |
| 03:56.50 | ginger_ | when i try to run from commandline as root i get http://pastie.org/8195635 |
| 03:56.59 | *** join/#debian pzn (~pzn@pdpc/supporter/active/pzn) |
| 03:57.16 | jarray52 | themill: Synergy allows sharing a mouse and keyboard and cut and paste. That should be enough for most needs but that isn't quite the same as having extra monitors. |
| 03:58.18 | jarray52 | themill: I might install it if I can't get xdmx working. |
| 03:59.18 | pzn | I need to know if my ext4 partition can be mounted on old ext3-only debian. what should I check on current ext4 fs to know it is has some non-ext3 compatible feature enabled? |
| 03:59.57 | *** join/#debian nf0_ (~nf0@saintpeter.texasstatebank.net) |
| 04:00.50 | *** join/#debian freeminds (~isset___@dslb-094-220-086-103.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 04:01.18 | *** part/#debian iceweasel (~IceWeasel@174-20-140-1.mpls.qwest.net) |
| 04:03.31 | *** join/#debian elvora (~elvora@24.8.156.40) |
| 04:04.03 | *** join/#debian vladuke (~vladuke@178.130.42.7) |
| 04:05.58 | jarray52 | pzn: Does the kernel have ext4_fs config option enabled in the ext3 only debian? |
| 04:07.45 | *** join/#debian w1ck3dg0ph3r (~root@79.120.84.235) |
| 04:07.50 | karlpinc | jarray52: synergy did not do exactly what I wanted, but xdmx did. But then I never got around to actually making it work. :-) |
| 04:08.12 | *** join/#debian w1ck3dg01h3r (~root@79.120.84.235) |
| 04:08.16 | jarray52 | karlpinc: That's where I'm at. :) |
| 04:08.41 | karlpinc | jarray52: Well then. How hard can it be? ;-) |
| 04:09.09 | jarray52 | karlpinc: Problem is... it's a project... not a coffee break. |
| 04:09.51 | karlpinc | jarray52: Yah. Happens to me each time I touch X it seems. |
| 04:10.08 | jarray52 | karlpinc: I get really really scared whenever I have to deal with X11 config files. |
| 04:10.12 | *** join/#debian chalcedony` (~llhull@c-24-98-251-185.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 04:10.14 | *** join/#debian chalcedony` (~llhull@unaffiliated/chalcedony) |
| 04:11.17 | jarray52 | karlpinc: That's one part of Linux that has been like Voodoo magic to me. If the X11 autoconfig doesn't work, I've never managed to get it working. |
| 04:11.54 | karlpinc | jarray52: The plain X config file is fine, but all that other stuff regards sessions and what-all is scarey. For instance, I can't figure out how to run some window managers. All I can do is run desktops like gnome/kde/xfce and the like. |
| 04:12.08 | *** join/#debian bfit (~bfit@mail.classicit.de) |
| 04:12.51 | karlpinc | jarray52: I also have to say I seem to have a problem getting ctrl-alt-backspace to work as well.... |
| 04:13.06 | karlpinc | jarray52: Still the plain x config is well documented. |
| 04:13.17 | *** join/#debian damentz (~damentz@cpe-66-69-208-122.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 04:13.38 | jarray52 | karlpinc: But in my experience, the documentation doesn't correspond to reality... |
| 04:13.52 | karlpinc | jarray52: Picky, picky. |
| 04:13.57 | jarray52 | maybe its just me... |
| 04:14.16 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:14.19 | karlpinc | jarray52: Maybe. Seems to work for me. Except ctrl-alt-backspace. |
| 04:14.31 | *** join/#debian mk2 (~mk2@p114131.doubleroute.jp) |
| 04:14.35 | jarray52 | The autoconfiguration option works beautifully for me. |
| 04:14.49 | jarray52 | It's the manual X config that doesn't work well for me. |
| 04:14.55 | *** join/#debian Guest92918 (~magyar@c-98-234-55-57.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:14.58 | karlpinc | jarray52: _So_ much better than having to write your own mode lines. |
| 04:14.59 | anon411 | karlpinc: killing X by ctrl-alt-backspace isn't default |
| 04:15.13 | karlpinc | anon411: Yah. And I tried to turn it on and failed. |
| 04:15.31 | karlpinc | anon411: Used to be on. |
| 04:16.24 | jarray52 | pzn: To check if the old debian with ext3 only has the ext4_fs config option enabled, check the config file after booting in the /boot directory. |
| 04:16.41 | karlpinc | anon411: It may have to do with multiple keyboards, or something wonky with my ancient bios. I gave up. |
| 04:17.06 | jarray52 | pzn: The name of the option is CONFIG_EXT4_FS. |
| 04:17.47 | *** join/#debian vladuke (~vladuke@178.130.42.7) |
| 04:19.07 | anon411 | karlpinc: you can use magic sys rq key, get keyboard from X, change to other tty and kill it manually |
| 04:19.14 | *** join/#debian bfit (~bfit@mail.classicit.de) |
| 04:20.44 | karlpinc | anon411: I tend to ctrl-alt-Fn. Still, I've locked up X, I don't know how, and then nothing works except power cycle or ssh in from another box. ctrl-alt-backspace is so handy when messing with X. |
| 04:21.21 | *** join/#debian grondilu (~grondilu@unaffiliated/grondilu) |
| 04:22.16 | *** join/#debian zed45 (~py@ool-18b9bd01.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:22.16 | *** join/#debian Noturno99 (~bruno@216.232.149.240) |
| 04:22.19 | karlpinc | anon411: Maybe the magic sys rq key would work for me in those cases. I use the pull the plug hammer instead. |
| 04:22.38 | *** join/#debian massmc (~massmc@valent6.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 04:22.59 | grondilu | Anyone using Chromium, Privoxy and surf on reddit? I can't get the page to work correctly, even when adding .reddit.com in { -filter }. Even if I run chromium with --no-proxy-server. It's killing me! |
| 04:23.00 | *** join/#debian aadil (~aadil@unaffiliated/aadil) |
| 04:24.06 | anon411 | karlpinc i'm almost sure it would. It's often Right Alt-PrintScr-R to get keyboard from X (if you have qwerty) |
| 04:24.51 | jarray52 | karlpinc: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X2go |
| 04:24.57 | karlpinc | anon411: It's just not in my brain. And my computer's unavailable.... I suppose a sticky would be useful, but it's only every few years I mess with it. |
| 04:25.38 | anon411 | smiles |
| 04:25.48 | jarray52 | karlpinc: Using that with synergy would be pretty close to a third or fourth monitor. |
| 04:25.58 | karlpinc | jarray52: Last time I paid attention to nox, long ago, the free version docs sucked. |
| 04:26.03 | *** join/#debian JohnnyL (~chatzilla@ool-457a8633.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:26.11 | jarray52 | karlpinc: nox? |
| 04:26.25 | karlpinc | jarray52: I think X2Go is part of nox. |
| 04:26.51 | *** join/#debian NealJ (~Neal@82-170-253-169.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 04:27.01 | jarray52 | karlpinc: X11 forwarding with synergy would be the next best thing I guess... |
| 04:27.04 | karlpinc | jarray52: Nox looked nice, but I eventually settled on standard-is-better-than-better.... |
| 04:27.14 | *** part/#debian JohnnyL (~chatzilla@ool-457a8633.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:27.24 | *** part/#debian grondilu (~grondilu@unaffiliated/grondilu) |
| 04:27.27 | jarray52 | karlpinc: I want 4 monitors... |
| 04:27.57 | *** join/#debian funyun (~funyun@cpe-65-25-103-89.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 04:28.15 | karlpinc | jarray52: Me too. And I want thin client and no fans and no noise. But it seems to be a project and not a coffee break.... ;-) |
| 04:28.23 | *** join/#debian Guest92918 (~magyar@c-98-234-55-57.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:29.26 | *** join/#debian chalcedony (~llhull@unaffiliated/chalcedony) |
| 04:29.34 | karlpinc | jarray52: The LTSP people seem to have this sort of thing nailed, but I'm running debian.... |
| 04:29.46 | *** join/#debian hashashin (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 04:30.16 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy_ (~LinuxGuy9@rrcs-24-227-146-98.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 04:30.30 | jarray52 | LTSP? |
| 04:30.37 | *** join/#debian Malsasa (~quassel@114.79.62.242) |
| 04:30.53 | *** join/#debian w1ck3dg0ph3r (~root@158.255.212.186) |
| 04:31.04 | *** join/#debian vladuke (~vladuke@178.130.42.7) |
| 04:31.33 | karlpinc | jarray52: ltsp.org. They tend to focus on the k12 education area. |
| 04:31.43 | jarray52 | I see. |
| 04:31.51 | Noturno99 | I've got it! jarray52 |
| 04:32.00 | karlpinc | !next |
| 04:32.01 | dpkg | rattles the #debian tip jar (http://www.debian.org/donations) |
| 04:32.15 | jarray52 | Got grub working from Debian? |
| 04:32.29 | jarray52 | Great! |
| 04:32.35 | Noturno99 | Yes. |
| 04:32.55 | Noturno99 | This command here: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc |
| 04:33.08 | Noturno99 | It did the same thing I did before, but at least, it worked! |
| 04:33.14 | apm1 | !customer |
| 04:33.14 | dpkg | A satisfied customer? We should have him stuffed! |
| 04:33.22 | *** join/#debian map7 (~user@teksup41.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 04:33.23 | apm1 | XD |
| 04:34.04 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@41.212.120.45) |
| 04:34.48 | karlpinc | jarray52: nox is particularly appealing in low-bandwidth situations. But vnc seems to have adapted to handle low-bandwidth and is slightly more useful to me so I never really got nox working. |
| 04:35.23 | karlpinc | Noturno99: dpkg-reconfigure is often oh-so-handy. |
| 04:37.03 | *** join/#debian Xiti (~Xiti-@c-71-63-111-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 04:37.28 | jarray52 | karlpinc: Thing I don't like about vnc is the container for accessing the desktop... It seems a bit unnatural. |
| 04:37.42 | *** join/#debian bin (~bin@94.155.229.38) |
| 04:37.52 | *** join/#debian bin (~bin@unaffiliated/phreaky) |
| 04:38.17 | jarray52 | I'm thinking of just creating icons for all the X11 forwarding I want from the other computer and using synergy. |
| 04:38.22 | *** join/#debian Azzy (~Maren@adsl-75-60-90-131.dsl.sndg02.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:38.23 | *** join/#debian MrGeneral (~MrGeneral@2.83.45.107) |
| 04:40.07 | *** join/#debian HiddenDjinn (~nyrednek@2001:4801:7817:72:c753:12d5:ff10:3e49) |
| 04:40.32 | HiddenDjinn | has anyone gotten cedar trail hdmi video working? |
| 04:40.46 | Noturno99 | karlpinc, yes.. it saves me from many problems! ahhaahhah |
| 04:42.54 | *** join/#debian axisys (~axisys@unaffiliated/axisys) |
| 04:43.57 | HiddenDjinn | i'm having some real issues with getting cedar trail graphics working properly |
| 04:45.09 | *** join/#debian aravind (~aravind@109.201.154.142) |
| 04:46.26 | apm1 | HiddenDjinn, what kernel are you using ? |
| 04:46.56 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: um, the default pae kernel |
| 04:47.01 | apm1 | i have seen cedar trail work OOTB with 3.10 |
| 04:47.07 | HiddenDjinn | 7.10 |
| 04:47.26 | apm1 | thats the distro wheezy = 7.1 |
| 04:47.39 | apm1 | the kernel should be the output of "uname -a" |
| 04:47.54 | *** join/#debian Shadow`` (~BOOYEA@5ED7BD2B.cm-7-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 04:48.39 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: 3.2.0-4-686-pae |
| 04:48.56 | HiddenDjinn | yeah, i meant 7.1.0 |
| 04:48.58 | HiddenDjinn | sorry |
| 04:49.31 | apm1 | when someone asks you the kernel version don't tell them your distro |
| 04:49.52 | apm1 | the gnu driver issue is a non compatible driver in 3.2 kernel |
| 04:49.59 | apm1 | you need a newer kernel |
| 04:50.06 | apm1 | install 3.9 from backports |
| 04:50.12 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: ok...so do i have to compile the kernel? |
| 04:50.21 | apm1 | no |
| 04:50.29 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: let me add backports to my repos and see if it'll update |
| 04:50.50 | apm1 | it won't update by itself |
| 04:51.02 | apm1 | you'll have to install it by specifying the package name |
| 04:51.34 | apm1 | with "apt-get install wheezy-backports -t linux-image-3.9-pae" |
| 04:52.02 | apm1 | *upgrade |
| 04:52.52 | *** join/#debian vladuke (~vladuke@178.130.42.7) |
| 04:52.57 | *** join/#debian SmashingX (~smashingx@unaffiliated/smashingx) |
| 04:53.44 | *** join/#debian DanmerZ (~oleh@159.224.51.174) |
| 04:53.46 | SmashingX | Is there any way I can access my computer at home remotely with the same IP I was accessing it even now that is connected to a VPN? |
| 04:54.10 | SmashingX | because I try to use the same IP I was using before connecting to VPN but now it doesn't exist |
| 04:54.13 | *** join/#debian zmode (~zmode@unaffiliated/zmode) |
| 04:55.54 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: hmmm...got an error message |
| 04:56.40 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (~mike@pool-71-166-54-46.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net) |
| 04:56.49 | HiddenDjinn | E: The value 'linux-image-3.9-pae' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the source |
| 04:57.25 | apm1 | HiddenDjinn, have you added the backports line in sources.list ? |
| 04:59.00 | SmashingX | or how can I access my computer with VPN now? |
| 04:59.15 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: i have 'A' backports line, but probably not the right one |
| 04:59.16 | HiddenDjinn | googling for the correct one |
| 05:00.13 | apm1 | dpkg, tell HiddenDjinn about backports |
| 05:02.09 | *** join/#debian andatche (~andatche@mule.andatche.com) |
| 05:02.27 | *** join/#debian the_fallen (~legion@cpe-70-112-44-28.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 05:04.15 | *** join/#debian bmr (~bmr@128.19.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 05:05.13 | SmashingX | or how can I access my computer with SSH that now it has VPN now? |
| 05:07.54 | *** join/#debian Sambler (~OKASO@unaffiliated/sambler) |
| 05:07.59 | karlpinc | HiddenDjinn: Googling is usually the wrong way to find the answer. Ask here, on the mailing lists, or you could even go so far as to read the manual. |
| 05:08.48 | *** join/#debian MonkWitDaFunk (~yaaic@24.114.26.142) |
| 05:09.15 | SmashingX | I'm asking here with no luck |
| 05:10.12 | *** join/#debian brong_ (~brong@101.115.116.176) |
| 05:10.42 | *** part/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 05:14.24 | HiddenDjinn | karlpinc: ok... |
| 05:14.48 | HiddenDjinn | karlpinc: it's installing 3.9 now, but not sure if it's breaking things...headers and modules aren't being installed |
| 05:15.57 | *** join/#debian ksinny (quassel@kde/developer/sinnykumari) |
| 05:16.20 | *** join/#debian pentiumone133 (will@173.243.115.75) |
| 05:16.48 | *** join/#debian KiSM (~quassel@CPE-60-228-246-251.lns2.wel.bigpond.net.au) |
| 05:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1191] by debhelper |
| 05:22.11 | *** join/#debian phenom (~L7@unaffiliated/phenom) |
| 05:22.29 | *** join/#debian SmashingX_ (~smashingx@unaffiliated/smashingx) |
| 05:24.36 | *** join/#debian Derpian (~Derpian@coconut.lostsig.net) |
| 05:25.23 | *** join/#debian Steeler (~steeler@dynamic-adsl-94-34-106-252.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 05:25.26 | *** join/#debian cj (~cjac@2607:ff08:f5:3a::3) |
| 05:25.55 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 05:26.23 | *** join/#debian jmcnaught (~jeremy@69-196-175-170.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 05:26.30 | *** part/#debian the_fallen (~legion@cpe-70-112-44-28.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 05:27.07 | *** join/#debian Derpian (~Derpian@unaffiliated/derpian) |
| 05:27.29 | *** part/#debian Derpian (~Derpian@unaffiliated/derpian) |
| 05:27.29 | *** join/#debian Derpian (~Derpian@unaffiliated/derpian) |
| 05:28.53 | *** join/#debian bullgard4 (~chatzilla@dslb-088-074-079-042.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:29.06 | *** join/#debian AliceLiddell (~AndChat16@cpe-76-180-31-45.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 05:29.15 | *** part/#debian SmashingX (~smashingx@unaffiliated/smashingx) |
| 05:29.27 | AliceLiddell | Can anyone help me out I keep installing Debian but grub doesn't work. |
| 05:30.04 | AliceLiddell | I don't have a install dvd so its a netinstall and takes a long time |
| 05:30.11 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (~bocaneri@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 05:30.25 | *** join/#debian adc (~adc@gateway/tor-sasl/adc) |
| 05:31.28 | elvora | What architecture/machine are you attempting to install Debian on? |
| 05:31.57 | themill | and what are you installing from |
| 05:32.05 | AliceLiddell | Its a 700mb install cd |
| 05:32.35 | AliceLiddell | and a 1155 Celeron, 8gb of ddr3 a Nvidia fermi card and a h61 motherboard |
| 05:32.42 | AliceLiddell | Onto a ssd and a hdd |
| 05:33.11 | *** join/#debian nullby7e (~null@130-204-83-35.2075095836.ddns.cablebg.net) |
| 05:33.14 | *** join/#debian nullby7e (~null@unaffiliated/nullby7e) |
| 05:33.18 | *** join/#debian Pavel (~pavel@203.10.91.11) |
| 05:33.26 | apm1 | HiddenDjinn, yeah the headers are buggy |
| 05:33.38 | *** join/#debian minsa (minsa@c-24-130-180-195.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 05:33.40 | AliceLiddell | the hdd is 160 gb (/var (8gb) swap (8gb) /tmp (1gb) /usr (20 gb) /home (120 gb)) ssd / 128gb |
| 05:33.45 | AliceLiddell | for the partitions |
| 05:33.59 | AliceLiddell | I'm kind of out of ideas |
| 05:34.05 | elvora | What's the name and model of the machine you are attempting to install debian? That would help with my googleling to insure that you don't need something like uefi. |
| 05:34.36 | AliceLiddell | Lga 1155 uses Eufi |
| 05:34.44 | AliceLiddell | But I've had debian install before fine |
| 05:35.01 | AliceLiddell | Ill keep trying and the same way too but eventually it installs |
| 05:35.36 | AliceLiddell | I got a disk read error last time...I didn't install EFI boot partitions I used /boot |
| 05:36.05 | AliceLiddell | I got a Disk read error or grub no file system found |
| 05:36.13 | elvora | yeah, iirc you'll need a separate partition for booting. |
| 05:36.20 | themill | precisely which install image do you have? |
| 05:36.22 | Pavel | Hi. I am trying to net-install Debian on a network which requires web-based authentication before it'll let me access the Internet (a bit like, e.g., Boingo WiFi). Is there a way I could get a textmode web browser of some sort running in the installer environment? (I have another system here that can download and create media, if needed, but I'd rather not have to get the full installer DVD.) |
| 05:36.39 | AliceLiddell | Links2 is the only cli browser I know of |
| 05:36.48 | apm1 | w3m |
| 05:37.06 | AliceLiddell | Amd64 with xfce |
| 05:37.13 | AliceLiddell | Wheezy 7.0 |
| 05:37.14 | apm1 | Pavel, you need debian live netinatall disc |
| 05:37.24 | AliceLiddell | Its the 700mb image |
| 05:37.44 | apm1 | AliceLiddell, try w3m for a text browser it'll blow your socks off |
| 05:37.49 | AliceLiddell | I killed like 5 hours waiting for this to install |
| 05:37.53 | AliceLiddell | I forgot about w3m |
| 05:38.31 | Gokee2 | Pavel, You should be able to switch to another virtual terminal during the install and curl the proper URL |
| 05:38.52 | AliceLiddell | Idk what to do |
| 05:38.55 | AliceLiddell | Lol |
| 05:39.00 | Pavel | Gokee2: It involves a web form. |
| 05:39.25 | Gokee2 | Pavel, You can push data with curl |
| 05:39.56 | AliceLiddell | the only thing I did last time different was delete my files with a different partition manager than the installer |
| 05:40.05 | AliceLiddell | and format the drives before installing |
| 05:40.36 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 05:40.37 | elvora | AliceLiddell: have you verified the integrity of the drive? |
| 05:40.46 | Gokee2 | Pavel, Something like "curl url -d "userName=username&pw=password.... etc" |
| 05:40.48 | themill | Pavel: it would be easier for you to complete the installation off-line and then worry about such things. All the install images have sufficient on them to be able to complete the installation (depending on what packages you select at the tasksel stage) |
| 05:40.59 | AliceLiddell | Idk howw it worked a few times and now its not |
| 05:41.44 | *** join/#debian brong_ (~brong@101.115.112.33) |
| 05:43.24 | *** join/#debian vladuke (~vladuke@EdNet-1.vmb-service.ru) |
| 05:46.09 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: also, initrd didn't work? |
| 05:46.20 | *** join/#debian stayarrr (~stayarrr@p4FEAB57B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:46.54 | *** join/#debian slv (~silvermec@209-6-88-237.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 05:47.51 | apm1 | HiddenDjinn, idk man |
| 05:48.00 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~daniel@HSI-KBW-078-043-137-094.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 05:48.25 | *** join/#debian bin (~bin@85.217.129.126) |
| 05:48.26 | *** join/#debian bin (~bin@unaffiliated/phreaky) |
| 05:48.31 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: apparently, drakut fills in that gap |
| 05:48.53 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: means if something goes wonky, i'll be sitting with the install dvd in repair mode for a little while fixing things again |
| 05:49.07 | apm1 | not really |
| 05:49.13 | *** join/#debian ilardm (~user@95.79.93.137) |
| 05:49.21 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: not really to which statement? |
| 05:49.34 | apm1 | install dvd repair |
| 05:49.49 | apm1 | you'll have the older 3.2 kernel installed as well |
| 05:50.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1200] by debhelper |
| 05:50.01 | apm1 | if 3.9 doesn't work use that |
| 05:50.14 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: oh, ok |
| 05:50.30 | ilardm | Hi all! Is there any list of supported network devices on wiki or somewhere else exists? |
| 05:50.36 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: yeah, forgot about that(not too far out of slackware) |
| 05:50.42 | apm1 | i have a cedar trail netback myself HiddenDjinn |
| 05:50.50 | apm1 | *netbook |
| 05:50.51 | karlpinc | HiddenDjinn: Kernels only go away when you purge the kernel package, de-installing/replacing is not good enough. |
| 05:50.56 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: i understood you |
| 05:51.16 | apm1 | mine is an asus eelpc cx1015 |
| 05:51.22 | HiddenDjinn | karlpinc: yeah, i keep forgetting that, as i said...was a slackware guy for a LONG time |
| 05:51.27 | karlpinc | ilardm: Have you looked at the install guide? |
| 05:51.28 | apm1 | has an atom dual core |
| 05:51.42 | apm1 | runs great with debian's 3.2 kernel |
| 05:51.45 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: mine's a gateway LT4004u |
| 05:51.51 | *** join/#debian AntiSpamMeta (~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.) |
| 05:51.53 | *** join/#debian DanmerZ (~oleh@159.224.51.174) |
| 05:51.57 | apm1 | same processor ? |
| 05:52.15 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: mine does too, but i occasionally want to use my hdmi out to show videos on my tv |
| 05:52.16 | apm1 | wait gateway ? thats acer ? |
| 05:52.26 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: same thing these days |
| 05:52.35 | apm1 | that son is not implemented yet |
| 05:52.37 | Pavel | Gokee2: It doesn't look like curl comes on the netinstall CD. |
| 05:52.39 | apm1 | not even in 3.10 |
| 05:52.48 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: hmmm...worked in ubuntu |
| 05:53.02 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: kinda worked under 3.2 |
| 05:53.04 | apm1 | must have been a miracle cause mine didn't |
| 05:53.10 | ilardm | karlpinc: I would not ask if I found one |
| 05:53.24 | apm1 | mine works with vga but not hdmi |
| 05:53.45 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: mine works with hdmi, kinda, but there's an obvious driver issue |
| 05:53.59 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: referring to 3.2 kernel |
| 05:54.09 | apm1 | nods |
| 05:54.13 | karlpinc | ilardm: It has a supported hardware section. But really, the easy way is to try it -- perhaps with an install media with non-free firmware on it or be ready to install non-free firmware if your nic requires such. |
| 05:54.22 | *** join/#debian sooraj (~Thunderbi@210-210-41-202.lan.sify.net) |
| 05:54.39 | Pavel | LiveCD it is. |
| 05:55.04 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: then ran from ubuntu due to growing stability issues(after 5 or so updates, things would randomly crash) |
| 05:56.29 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@187.sub-70-192-72.myvzw.com) |
| 05:56.37 | apm1 | HiddenDjinn, i used ubuntu's 3.8.x which never worked the slightest for my HDMI |
| 05:56.45 | *** join/#debian jned (~jned@d24-36-3-196.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 05:56.54 | apm1 | however mine was stable as a rock |
| 05:57.09 | jned | gnash goes full blast when I open youtube and first place video, and my speakers are loud so it is a major problem |
| 05:57.22 | *** join/#debian bst_ (~bst@chello084113221099.3.14.vie.surfer.at) |
| 05:57.29 | ilardm | karlpinc: In that section said that almos any hardware is supported. Nothing in particular. I just want to make some research before actually trying to install anything |
| 05:57.37 | apm1 | jned, use google-chrome from upstream simple! |
| 05:57.42 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: iteresting |
| 05:57.53 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: i think i was on 3.7.x |
| 05:58.04 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-188-210.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 05:58.08 | karlpinc | ilardm: You wouldn't have to install. If the install process activates the network connection and is able to continue then the nic works. |
| 05:58.14 | apm1 | there was no 3.7 kernel in ubuntu HiddenDjinn |
| 05:58.16 | jned | apm1, what you mean upstream? |
| 05:58.26 | apm1 | they jumped from 3.5 to 3.8 |
| 05:58.32 | apm1 | jned, google |
| 05:58.46 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: let's put it this way, i was using precise |
| 05:58.50 | karlpinc | !upstream |
| 05:58.50 | dpkg | upstream is, like, where Debian developers download software from. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/developer-duties#upstream-coordination |
| 05:58.51 | jned | apm1, I am using google chrome |
| 05:59.02 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-213-33.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 05:59.05 | jned | apm1, upstream will give me all kinds of non-relevant results |
| 05:59.19 | jned | apm1, maybe someone else has an idea, thanks |
| 05:59.29 | apm1 | jned, umm ? what ? |
| 05:59.39 | *** join/#debian forced (~forced@107-199-204-18.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:59.45 | karlpinc | apm1: He's not reading everything. |
| 05:59.45 | apm1 | why are you using gnash if you have chrome ? |
| 05:59.47 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: and, iirc, i was using a quanthal kernnel on it |
| 06:00.04 | HiddenDjinn | *kernel |
| 06:00.10 | karlpinc | That's interesting. I didn't know chrome does flash. |
| 06:00.13 | apm1 | HiddenDjinn, backports on ubuntu way to go sirie XD |
| 06:00.20 | ilardm | karlpinc: I know about livecd. |
| 06:00.27 | apm1 | karlpinc, its built in |
| 06:00.42 | karlpinc | ilardm: I'm talking about the debian install cd. Although a livecd would work too. |
| 06:00.50 | jned | For some reason, google-chrome didn't ship with a working flash, and the flashplugin-nonfree doesn't work for me either, so I am using gnash |
| 06:00.57 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: not used to the debian way...give me a few weeks |
| 06:01.03 | jned | Its an old computer or something, dunno |
| 06:01.12 | apm1 | karlpinc, google is maintaining flash for chrome by integrating it in chrome for linux |
| 06:01.13 | karlpinc | !tell HiddenDjinn about overview |
| 06:01.31 | apm1 | HiddenDjinn, we have a special book for you |
| 06:01.33 | karlpinc | HiddenDjinn: Although the wiki may or may not be out of date. |
| 06:01.42 | apm1 | dpkg, tell HiddenDjinn about handbook |
| 06:02.35 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: not sure if i should feel welcomed or shamed atm |
| 06:02.54 | apm1 | its a secret society induction |
| 06:03.01 | apm1 | so feel honored :) |
| 06:03.05 | karlpinc | HiddenDjinn: Try both. That way you'll feel like the rest of us. |
| 06:03.10 | karlpinc | :) |
| 06:03.12 | apm1 | we are Debian purists :) |
| 06:03.21 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: oh, like when they killed me in the masons? |
| 06:03.21 | *** join/#debian k_sze[work] (~kvirc@101.78.178.186) |
| 06:03.21 | *** join/#debian matanya (~matanya@wikimedia/matanya) |
| 06:03.33 | apm1 | yeah kind of |
| 06:03.53 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: you know, part of the initiation is a simulated beating to death |
| 06:04.02 | karlpinc | apm1: Your statement about google and chrome and flash seems a bit circular. |
| 06:04.03 | apm1 | i know |
| 06:04.15 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: depending on your lodge will also depend on how rough they go on you |
| 06:04.22 | karlpinc | HiddenDjinn: Won't they have to kill you now that you've told us? |
| 06:04.25 | apm1 | karlpinc, its what google says in the chrome release notes |
| 06:04.34 | HiddenDjinn | karlpinc: it's not a deep secret |
| 06:04.58 | HiddenDjinn | karlpinc: you can find the order of the rituals online now...nothing big...not a mason anymore anyways |
| 06:05.06 | *** join/#debian arvind_k (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 06:05.10 | apm1 | karlpinc, the freemasons are very open about this stuff , hell even dan brown wrote about it |
| 06:05.37 | apm1 | i actually enjoyed the lost symbol |
| 06:05.56 | apm1 | exaggeration is awesome enteratinment :) |
| 06:06.23 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: i made master mason and got bored...i'll probably hook back up with a new lodge as a master mason when my kids leave high school |
| 06:07.02 | apm1 | HiddenDjinn, have you read "the valley of fear" |
| 06:07.10 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: no |
| 06:07.14 | *** join/#debian bst_ (~bst@chello084113221099.3.14.vie.surfer.at) |
| 06:07.16 | themill | checks what channel this is |
| 06:07.23 | apm1 | - Sir arthur conan doyle's |
| 06:07.32 | apm1 | its a sherlok holes story |
| 06:07.38 | *** join/#debian dimaursu16 (~dimon@188.138.180.180) |
| 06:07.39 | apm1 | *holmes |
| 06:07.54 | apm1 | apologizes to themill |
| 06:07.56 | HiddenDjinn | apm1: i'll probably pick it up, but i think we're being hinted towards -offtopic |
| 06:08.03 | apm1 | yeah |
| 06:08.55 | *** join/#debian Logical (~digital@198.23.136.252) |
| 06:09.43 | *** part/#debian ilardm (~user@95.79.93.137) |
| 06:12.18 | *** join/#debian brong_ (~brong@CPE-124-189-176-117.cxzr1.win.bigpond.net.au) |
| 06:12.27 | *** join/#debian em (~em@unaffiliated/emma) |
| 06:13.33 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@h136n4-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 06:13.52 | *** part/#debian sooraj (~Thunderbi@210-210-41-202.lan.sify.net) |
| 06:14.08 | Gokee2 | Pavel, Oh, sorry I thought it was there. |
| 06:15.05 | *** join/#debian asterismo (~asterismo@r186-52-231-78.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 06:15.14 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@pool-98-109-246-245.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 06:15.39 | *** join/#debian Talon_ (Tal@50.126.210.17) |
| 06:16.11 | *** join/#debian Devastatr (~devas@186.214.15.236) |
| 06:16.37 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 06:17.17 | *** join/#debian stayarrr (~stayarrr@p4FEAB57B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:18.19 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-188-210.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 06:18.20 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@icm-39-27.icm.uu.se) |
| 06:18.32 | *** part/#debian Logical (~digital@198.23.136.252) |
| 06:20.04 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@pool-98-109-246-245.nwrknj.east.verizon.net) |
| 06:22.30 | *** join/#debian olivererxleben (~stayarrr@195.35.87.80) |
| 06:23.35 | *** join/#debian dep_ (~marcus@c253-148-70-80.bjare.net) |
| 06:23.57 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 06:24.44 | Itsm | Hi folks, I'm new to debian, can someone please explain me how do I update my java6 to java7? |
| 06:24.56 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@203.126.171.206) |
| 06:25.03 | milo64 | hello |
| 06:25.07 | milo64 | Gvim or Vim? |
| 06:25.14 | themill | Itsm: which release of debian? |
| 06:25.26 | Itsm | themill, 7.1 |
| 06:26.05 | themill | Itsm: aptitude install openjdk-7-jre; and then use update-java-alternatives. |
| 06:26.13 | themill | dpkg: tell Itsm about update-java-alternatives |
| 06:26.42 | *** join/#debian daniel-s__ (~daniel-s@2001:388:608c:4c40:e56f:a719:8ee:107) |
| 06:26.57 | Itsm | themill, Thank you |
| 06:27.15 | *** join/#debian ws2k3 (~ton@a82-161-147-68.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 06:30.33 | *** join/#debian jargon (~jargon@unaffiliated/jargon-) |
| 06:30.58 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 06:31.39 | *** join/#debian redintellect (~aryan@2.178.146.89) |
| 06:32.55 | *** join/#debian Slydder (~chuck@31-16-81-197-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 06:33.11 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-172-124.tor.primus.ca) |
| 06:33.36 | jned | since I upgraded to wheezy, some of the extra keys on my keyboard work, can I customize them? |
| 06:33.51 | somiaj | milo64: depends. Both are nice. (: |
| 06:34.18 | *** join/#debian jrgill3 (~jrgill@unaffiliated/jrgill) |
| 06:34.22 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo (~jo@46.115.85.251) |
| 06:34.25 | *** join/#debian Granis` (~Granis@c-18c2e455.017-509-6c6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 06:35.18 | *** join/#debian nf0_ (~nf0@saintpeter.texasstatebank.net) |
| 06:35.48 | *** join/#debian tommy_e (~tommy@cpe.ge-1-1-0-933.rgnqu1.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 06:38.56 | *** join/#debian jjanvier (~jjanvier@freebox.galilee.fr) |
| 06:39.07 | *** join/#debian harobed_ (~stephane-@sab57-2-82-236-241-203.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 06:39.22 | *** join/#debian Xanthor (~Xanthor@ip-173.net-81-220-233.bruay.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 06:40.42 | *** join/#debian ulmer (~gnulix@89.204.155.80) |
| 06:41.44 | milo64 | somiaj: can i even make gvim be able to be the default text editor on my xfce (instead of mousepad) |
| 06:42.00 | Itsm | god damn java.. X: |
| 06:42.01 | Itsm | http://pastebin.com/eMYw2XrU |
| 06:42.16 | *** join/#debian StephenS (~StephenS@premiumus.xshellz.com) |
| 06:42.24 | *** join/#debian wsk233 (~ton@a82-161-147-68.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 06:42.36 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@78.186.132.203) |
| 06:42.43 | *** join/#debian bullgard4 (~chatzilla@dslb-094-223-170-137.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:42.51 | anddam | milo64: pretty sure you can, not sure if it's up to the defaults system or to the env itself |
| 06:42.56 | jned | milo64, preferred apps |
| 06:43.12 | anddam | s/defaults/alternatives/ |
| 06:43.12 | milo64 | jned: no options |
| 06:43.24 | jned | milo64, Start->Settings->Preferred Applications? |
| 06:43.52 | jned | milo64, oh yeah there isn't a text edit option there |
| 06:43.57 | mumpitzel | Itsm: so? "java" itself should now point to the right version, no? the errors/warnings look all like they are for the jdk, not the jre |
| 06:44.01 | themill | Itsm: did you want the JDK or just the JRE? |
| 06:45.08 | jned | milo64, you have to set it in thunar, right click->open with other application |
| 06:45.22 | *** join/#debian raptor67782 (~raptor676@unaffiliated/raptor67682) |
| 06:45.25 | *** join/#debian _znull (~z@base.exison.net) |
| 06:45.27 | jned | milo64, there you can set default for those file type |
| 06:46.07 | *** join/#debian funyun (~funyun@cpe-65-25-103-89.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 06:46.20 | Itsm | themill.. I don't care about java dev' stuff, I just need the jre to run stuff |
| 06:47.13 | themill | Itsm: so I suspect you can ignore those JDK alternatives it's talking about, or you can use --jre to tell update-java-alternatives to only look at the JRE ones |
| 06:47.33 | mumpitzel | Itsm: run "java -version" it should run fine |
| 06:48.30 | Itsm | Alright, thank you both. |
| 06:49.16 | *** join/#debian Noskcaj (~Noskcaj@ubuntu/member/noskcaj) |
| 06:50.12 | *** join/#debian jehan (~jehan@kiel4-dmz.gis.de) |
| 06:50.46 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~kot@lopsa/member/project2501a) |
| 06:51.12 | *** join/#debian wo0f (4e944bb2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.148.75.178) |
| 06:51.22 | wo0f | how do i change to system language from the command line? |
| 06:51.31 | *** join/#debian firecooler (~info@p54B4E9AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:51.49 | *** join/#debian hashashin (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 06:52.17 | wo0f | is this link the definitive answer? |
| 06:52.19 | wo0f | https://wiki.debian.org/ChangeLanguage |
| 06:52.34 | *** join/#debian MiteshShah (~MiteshSha@115.115.82.210) |
| 06:52.53 | milo64 | how do i make my gvim black background? |
| 06:53.02 | redintellect | wo0f, you want to change the language by terminal, or you want to run the system language setting of the desktop environment? |
| 06:53.32 | wo0f | redintellect: change the system lang by terminal on a server |
| 06:53.36 | wo0f | no gui :) |
| 06:54.15 | anddam | milo64: most likely :he :colo, check #vim |
| 06:54.30 | redintellect | wo0f, you can use locale-gen |
| 06:54.35 | redintellect | wo0f, http://www.linuxhowtos.org/manpages/8/locale-gen.htm |
| 06:55.05 | *** part/#debian jned (~jned@d24-36-3-196.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 06:55.38 | *** join/#debian cafuego_ (~cafuego@caffeine.cc.com.au) |
| 06:55.40 | wo0f | ok thanks redintellect, ill give it a whirl :) |
| 06:55.50 | themill | wo0f: just do what the wiki says |
| 06:55.53 | mumpitzel | redintellect: that's what dpkg-reconfigure locales does |
| 06:56.34 | *** join/#debian dc5ala (~dc5ala@stgt-5f70c25f.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 06:56.35 | *** join/#debian ne0sis (~quassel@197.87.176.216) |
| 06:56.57 | redintellect | wo0f, I'm not very experienced with deb though, just migrated from arch. |
| 06:57.21 | redintellect | mumpitzel said: redintellect: that's what dpkg-reconfigure locales does, wo0f . |
| 06:57.33 | wo0f | ah great |
| 06:57.45 | wo0f | cheers for all your input guys :L |
| 06:57.50 | *** join/#debian fikst (~fikst@d54C442D5.access.telenet.be) |
| 06:58.55 | *** join/#debian sidus (~abracadab@37-5-73-205-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 06:59.02 | *** join/#debian Alina-malina (~Alina-mal@46.162.236.245) |
| 06:59.41 | redintellect | Guys, btw, does free drivers of broadcom work on Wheezy for BCM43227? |
| 07:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1212] by debhelper |
| 07:00.14 | redintellect | I installed the non-free amd64 version of broadcom driver |
| 07:00.21 | mumpitzel | !bcm43227 |
| 07:00.21 | *** join/#debian aravind (~aravind@tsn85-159-237-4.dyn.nltelcom.net) |
| 07:00.22 | *** join/#debian Wulf (~Wulf@unaffiliated/wulf) |
| 07:00.22 | dpkg | The Broadcom BCM43227 (PCI ID 14e4:4358) is an 802.11n PCIe wireless LAN chip. Not currently supported by the <b43> driver. Supported by the vendor driver since version 5.100.82.38 (Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later), ask me about <wl>. |
| 07:00.42 | mumpitzel | redintellect: /msg dpkg wl |
| 07:00.57 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host52-231-static.242-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:01.27 | redintellect | mumpitzel, I already installed the non-free driver it's working but it had some little problemc, I had to tweak a .c file to get it done. |
| 07:01.41 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-92-208-156.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 07:01.42 | redintellect | mumpitzel, I already installed the non-free driver it's working but it had some little problemc, I had to tweak a .c file to get it done. :-? |
| 07:01.49 | *** join/#debian valeriusL (~valerius@85.26.180.147) |
| 07:02.16 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@adsl-187-254.globonet.hu) |
| 07:02.33 | redintellect | mumpitzel, oh awesome. |
| 07:02.46 | redintellect | mumpitzel, wl had it all done and I did it again by hand. |
| 07:03.18 | *** join/#debian Ealdor (~Ealdor@171.Red-79-148-44.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 07:03.39 | redintellect | mumpitzel, old habits die hard :)) |
| 07:04.01 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@81.94.53.5) |
| 07:06.29 | *** join/#debian JackH (~none@client-86-23-69-135.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:08.10 | *** join/#debian Interruptus (~Interrupt@212.143.64.79) |
| 07:08.31 | *** join/#debian rbckman (~rob@84-231-66-126.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 07:08.33 | wo0f | hmm, don't think https://wiki.debian.org/ChangeLanguage actually works :( |
| 07:08.47 | themill | it does. |
| 07:09.13 | wo0f | LANGUAGE env variable is still listed at previous language |
| 07:09.21 | wo0f | all other variables have changed though |
| 07:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1220] by debhelper |
| 07:10.04 | HiddenDjinn | wo0f: you know, LANGUAGE is set at loin |
| 07:10.06 | HiddenDjinn | login |
| 07:10.30 | wo0f | HiddenDjinn: oh right! what's it set by at login? |
| 07:11.06 | mumpitzel | wo0f: then change it |
| 07:11.07 | HiddenDjinn | wo0f: i think when it reads profile |
| 07:11.40 | themill | pam |
| 07:12.43 | wo0f | themill: should i also edit the pam config then? |
| 07:13.09 | mumpitzel | wo0f: where do you set LANGUAGE? |
| 07:13.15 | themill | wo0f: if you ran dpkg-reconfigure locales, you already did so |
| 07:13.30 | *** join/#debian weedar (~vn@82.194.215.105) |
| 07:13.32 | themill | wo0f: the webpage tells you that you need to reboot (or at least log out). |
| 07:13.40 | mumpitzel | themill: is LANGUAGE set? afaik not automatically. e.g. I had to put it into /etc/environment |
| 07:13.51 | wo0f | dpkg-reconfigure locales seems to have changed all env variables apart from LANGUAGE |
| 07:13.58 | wo0f | this is after a reboot |
| 07:14.23 | themill | mumpitzel: yes |
| 07:14.39 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@78.186.132.203) |
| 07:14.55 | themill | wo0f: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/default/locale |
| 07:15.55 | *** part/#debian w1ck3dg0ph3r (~root@158.255.212.186) |
| 07:16.00 | *** join/#debian w1ck3dg0ph3r (~root@158.255.212.186) |
| 07:16.02 | mumpitzel | themill: not if your locale and the language you want to see are different. e.g. my locale file only has LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, I had to set LANGUAGE to en_GB manually |
| 07:16.05 | wo0f | themill: http://pastebin.com/28N9LpSd |
| 07:16.38 | *** join/#debian guk (chris@spaceheater.solosoft.ca) |
| 07:16.45 | *** join/#debian likevinyl (~likevinyl@unaffiliated/likevinyl) |
| 07:17.17 | themill | mumpitzel: sure, you can change it manually, but that's different from saying it would be unset by default. |
| 07:17.49 | *** join/#debian mauryaarun (~Thunderbi@14.139.225.76) |
| 07:17.52 | mumpitzel | themill: it is not set at all. e.g. there is no LANGUAGE= env variable, at least there wasn't after configuring |
| 07:18.20 | *** join/#debian zorg1 (~zorg1@peniche.pck.nerim.net) |
| 07:18.34 | mumpitzel | cause it by default uses the language of the locale of course. so I used german locale which gave me german error messages by default without LANGUAGE set |
| 07:18.38 | themill | wo0f: I assume you want LANGUAGE="en_GB:en"? |
| 07:18.47 | wo0f | themill: yup |
| 07:18.53 | themill | just edit that file |
| 07:18.56 | milo64 | hey is there a program in repo so i can view my markdown code? |
| 07:18.57 | mumpitzel | delete the LANGUAGE line then |
| 07:19.22 | redintellect | wo0f, what language you plan to add? |
| 07:19.47 | wo0f | want to alter system default from en_US utf8 to en_GB utf8 |
| 07:20.13 | redintellect | I assume you are root, wo0f? |
| 07:20.20 | wo0f | redintellect: yup |
| 07:20.49 | redintellect | do this: |
| 07:21.02 | redintellect | wo0f, nano /etc/locale.gen |
| 07:21.12 | themill | no |
| 07:21.19 | redintellect | comment out en_US |
| 07:21.23 | *** part/#debian w1ck3dg0ph3r (~root@158.255.212.186) |
| 07:21.29 | redintellect | and uncomment en_GB |
| 07:21.31 | themill | wo0f: edit /etc/default/locale |
| 07:21.38 | redintellect | then run locale-gen |
| 07:21.44 | themill | redintellect: please stop |
| 07:22.28 | redintellect | themill, ok |
| 07:22.28 | *** join/#debian txp (~txp@unaffiliated/txp) |
| 07:23.00 | *** join/#debian lpapp (~lpapp@kde/lpapp) |
| 07:23.18 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@changeme.ebuddy.com) |
| 07:23.19 | lpapp | mount -o bind /dev/shm ${CHROOT}/dev/shm -> should this go into dev/shm or run/shm if I use a wheezy chroot? |
| 07:24.12 | redintellect | themill, doesn't he have to generate a locale with en_GB uncommented anyway? |
| 07:24.42 | themill | redintellect: that was done 20 minutes ago |
| 07:24.53 | redintellect | themill, my bad. I'm sorry. |
| 07:26.07 | mumpitzel | redintellect: as you've been told, dpkg-reconfigure locale does this and lots more |
| 07:26.15 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@icm-241-158.icm.uu.se) |
| 07:26.53 | redintellect | mumpitzel, right sorry, I was being stubborn. |
| 07:27.20 | themill | wo0f: btw you'll find that there are essentially no en_GB translation files anyway and you'll just end up with the en_US text after all. |
| 07:27.51 | *** join/#debian hugh_sh (7c0e001a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.14.0.26) |
| 07:28.02 | *** join/#debian amgarching (~amgarchin@theo1.theochem.tu-muenchen.de) |
| 07:28.15 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~daniel@141.21.13.129) |
| 07:28.28 | *** join/#debian mastro (~mastro@host161-73-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 07:28.41 | wo0f | ok that worked: editing /etc/default/locale and dpkg-reconfigure localesand a reboot |
| 07:28.50 | mumpitzel | themill: always color? |
| 07:28.59 | *** join/#debian w1ck3dg0ph3r (~root@158.255.212.186) |
| 07:29.45 | *** join/#debian Deele (~Deele@87.226.56.21) |
| 07:30.18 | themill | mumpitzel: mostly. ls(1) tells you it will "colorize" the output; kcolorchooser asks you to "Select Colour"... that's about the only one I know that actually does anything for en_GB as opposed to en_US. |
| 07:30.25 | *** join/#debian _znull (~z@base.exison.net) |
| 07:30.46 | *** join/#debian dada (~dada@4aa54-4-82-234-150-40.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:31.35 | *** part/#debian AliceLiddell (~AndChat16@cpe-76-180-31-45.buffalo.res.rr.com) |
| 07:33.21 | redintellect | did anyone here tried enlightenment on deb? |
| 07:33.22 | redintellect | try* |
| 07:33.49 | *** join/#debian codesoup (~codesoup@76-10-138-236.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 07:34.03 | *** join/#debian Amandil (~Amandil@AToulon-256-1-153-150.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:34.04 | *** join/#debian funyun (~funyun@cpe-65-25-103-89.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 07:34.28 | *** join/#debian phpjunkies (~quassel@61.247.52.138) |
| 07:34.45 | mumpitzel | ,v e17 |
| 07:34.46 | judd | Package: e17 on i386 -- jessie: 0.16.999.70492-2; sid: 0.17.1-2 |
| 07:35.23 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 07:35.59 | redintellect | mumpitzel, I was using e17 on arch but it consumes a lot of time |
| 07:36.05 | *** join/#debian wickeddoc (~wickeddoc@2001:1610:0:b:baca:3aff:fe77:da21) |
| 07:36.09 | redintellect | judd, how did you like it? |
| 07:36.15 | mumpitzel | judd is a bot |
| 07:36.38 | *** join/#debian shingouz (~doowop@85-76-122-224-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 07:37.11 | redintellect | :bad poker face: |
| 07:37.15 | *** join/#debian TingPing (~TingPing@fedora/pdpc.professional.tingping) |
| 07:37.44 | redintellect | mumpitzel, I'm getting stupider by the minute. didn't know sleep deprivation was this serious |
| 07:38.11 | mumpitzel | yes, the worst is, you don't even notice the stupid mistakes you make |
| 07:38.26 | mumpitzel | showed me how sleep is important when I was up >24h |
| 07:39.04 | redintellect | mumpitzel, yea. |
| 07:39.26 | vectr0n | night everyone :) <3 |
| 07:39.49 | redintellect | vectr0n, sleep tight. |
| 07:40.05 | *** join/#debian ledestin (~ledestin@119.224.34.17) |
| 07:40.45 | zerox | 3:40pm here. |
| 07:40.53 | vectr0n | same |
| 07:40.54 | vectr0n | lol |
| 07:40.55 | *** join/#debian stayarrr (~stayarrr@p4FEAB57B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:41.23 | zerox | +0800 too? |
| 07:42.34 | *** join/#debian w1ck3dg0ph3r (~w1ck3dg0p@158.255.212.186) |
| 07:42.41 | *** join/#debian hazardous (~hz@openvpn/user/hazardous) |
| 07:43.18 | hazardous | i'm on deb7, how can i update to 7.1? i've done apt-get update && upgrade, says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 07:43.22 | hazardous | sources.list is 'wheezy main' |
| 07:43.34 | jelly-home | hazardous: that's it, then |
| 07:43.57 | hazardous | is /etc/issue supposed to say 7.1? mine says Debian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l |
| 07:44.02 | *** join/#debian Kh05p3r (~th3d4rkb4@5.254.129.22) |
| 07:44.36 | zerox | just did s/squeeze/wheezy/ on sources.list, and is doing apt-get upgrade. |
| 07:44.36 | *** join/#debian Mikrop_ (~mikrop@office.bearstech.com) |
| 07:44.40 | jelly-home | hazardous: which version of base-files package do you have at present? |
| 07:44.49 | hazardous | ii base-files 7.1wheezy1 i386 Debian base system miscellaneous files |
| 07:44.52 | hazardous | huh. well then |
| 07:44.55 | lpapp | jelly-home: have you seen my chroot question? |
| 07:45.04 | hazardous | dunno why issue isn't updating, seems weird then |
| 07:45.06 | jelly-home | lpapp: nope |
| 07:45.07 | *** join/#debian mechanicalduck (~mechanica@37-252-110-16.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 07:45.44 | lpapp | mount -o bind /dev/shm ${CHROOT}/dev/shm -> should this go into dev/shm or run/shm if I use a wheezy chroot? |
| 07:46.00 | jelly-home | hazardous: it's explained in the changelog for base-files package |
| 07:46.16 | jelly-home | lpapp: try both, see what works? |
| 07:46.21 | *** join/#debian tumihuakai (~Administr@125.211.156.46) |
| 07:46.32 | lpapp | jelly-home: none worked. |
| 07:46.57 | jelly-home | lpapp: ls -ld ${CHROOT}/dev/shm |
| 07:47.43 | lpapp | jelly-home: it is not a symlink to ${CHROOT}/run/shm |
| 07:48.24 | *** join/#debian verysoftoiletppr (~verysofto@unaffiliated/softtoiletpaper) |
| 07:48.39 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 07:48.49 | *** join/#debian ulmer (~gnulix@89.204.155.80) |
| 07:49.00 | jelly-home | lpapp: you haven't answered the question |
| 07:49.12 | Phivuk | PFt.lol |
| 07:49.47 | tumihuakai | i want to study linux ,please tell me which linux |
| 07:49.56 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@88.233.19.250) |
| 07:49.56 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 07:49.57 | lpapp | jelly-home: I cannot answer it now as I am not at home. |
| 07:50.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1231] by debhelper |
| 07:50.22 | *** join/#debian driftah (~drifter@gateway/tor-sasl/driftah) |
| 07:50.22 | jelly-home | lpapp: oh well, see you around then |
| 07:50.28 | lpapp | I think it complicates the situation that debian uses run/shm |
| 07:50.37 | lpapp | and everyone else uses dev/shm |
| 07:50.54 | w1ck3dg0ph3r | tumihuakai: debian, obviously |
| 07:51.25 | tumihuakai | 3Q |
| 07:51.45 | *** join/#debian _Qman (~Qman@213.177.160.238) |
| 07:51.46 | *** join/#debian sobkas (~sobkas@193.106.101.71) |
| 07:51.46 | *** part/#debian tumihuakai (~Administr@125.211.156.46) |
| 07:52.17 | txp | Good morning ladies and gentlemen, I switched to debian yesterday. I've made a lot of "distro hopping" in the last 2 years and realized during this period that my main focus really lies on stability. So I am running debian 7 stable... Nevertheless, I also like new/up-to-date software. So I was thinking maybe debian testing. So would you say that the testing branch of debian is a good choice for someone whose focus is mainly on stability and "not having some a |
| 07:52.18 | txp | nnoying problem every 2 days" but who also wants relatively new software? Or should I stay on stable? |
| 07:52.40 | *** join/#debian funyun (~funyun@cpe-65-25-103-89.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 07:52.50 | mumpitzel | not for stability |
| 07:52.51 | *** join/#debian RipresaTecn (~ripresate@unaffiliated/ripresatecn) |
| 07:52.53 | *** join/#debian KiSM (~quassel@CPE-60-228-246-251.lns2.wel.bigpond.net.au) |
| 07:53.27 | jelly-home | lpapp: it does, but it's a situation that ought to be solved in under 5 minutes with some knowledge of linux and unix (namely, how symlinks, chroot and bind mounts work) |
| 07:54.11 | lpapp | jelly-home: we spent two hours last time |
| 07:54.16 | lpapp | and you had no clue at that point. |
| 07:55.07 | jelly-home | most of it I spent trying to understand the issue |
| 07:56.12 | txp | mumpitzel: How often would you say are there problems after an update? More than once a month? |
| 07:56.29 | *** join/#debian foka (~foka@113.252.188.80) |
| 07:56.33 | *** join/#debian risibusy (~rb@tjure.netzquadrat.de) |
| 07:56.43 | *** join/#debian KidCartouche (~jbanier@ip-83-134-174-164.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 07:56.46 | mumpitzel | there are no hard numbers |
| 07:56.59 | *** join/#debian sooraj (~Thunderbi@210-210-41-202.lan.sify.net) |
| 07:57.08 | *** part/#debian sooraj (~Thunderbi@210-210-41-202.lan.sify.net) |
| 07:57.19 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-92-208-156.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 07:57.40 | jelly-home | txp: how often does not really matter... if you have to do work today, don't upgrade. |
| 07:57.48 | *** join/#debian korn36 (~kacper@unaffiliated/korn36) |
| 07:58.05 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p5DD8D8AB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:59.31 | jelly-home | nice things to have nearby: a second working machine; a reliable and recent live usb (debian-based or not); daily backups |
| 08:00.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1239] by debhelper |
| 08:02.17 | txp | jelly-home: yeah, you're right... I'm gonna stay on stable for now. But some playing around with testing on a live usb or virtual machine sounds like a good idea. thanks |
| 08:02.59 | *** part/#debian TingPing (~TingPing@fedora/pdpc.professional.tingping) |
| 08:04.53 | *** join/#debian mikul-laptop (~mikul@fikul.ekb.sgsnet.se) |
| 08:06.04 | *** join/#debian Robert_L (~Robert_L@c-76-110-201-132.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 08:09.06 | *** join/#debian oleh (~oleh@159.224.51.174) |
| 08:10.32 | *** join/#debian dep_ (~marcus@c253-148-70-80.bjare.net) |
| 08:11.35 | *** join/#debian Anticom (~Anticom@95.131.102.214) |
| 08:11.45 | *** join/#debian MiteshShah (~MiteshSha@115.115.82.210) |
| 08:12.20 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@d110-32-52-182.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 08:12.29 | *** join/#debian cabaire (~nobody@gateway05.m3-connect.de) |
| 08:14.29 | lpapp | jelly-home: yes, that is why it is not an 5 minutes issue. |
| 08:14.45 | *** join/#debian erikja (~erikja@188-182-120-95-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 08:15.17 | *** join/#debian risibusy (~rb@tjure.netzquadrat.de) |
| 08:15.33 | *** join/#debian EnergyCoffee (~irc@216.105.40.250) |
| 08:17.42 | *** join/#debian ex-parrot (~ex-parrot@2401:f000:20:0:7256:81ff:fea3:465) |
| 08:18.20 | *** join/#debian Onkyo (~User46-II@5249ED1F.cm-4-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 08:18.29 | *** join/#debian ggherdov (uid11402@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vxioqercdsurgoua) |
| 08:18.53 | *** join/#debian Noskcaj (~Noskcaj@ubuntu/member/noskcaj) |
| 08:19.16 | *** join/#debian uuni (~Jellyfish@c-69-136-41-212.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 08:19.26 | *** join/#debian pc_magas (~pc_magas@ppp-94-68-225-186.home.otenet.gr) |
| 08:20.32 | *** join/#debian redhead (~Gone@cl-30.cph-01.dk.sixxs.net) |
| 08:20.40 | *** join/#debian kchr (kchr@forskningsavd.se) |
| 08:20.50 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 08:23.53 | *** join/#debian thyphus_ (~tobias@derfindus.de) |
| 08:23.54 | *** join/#debian hashashin (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 08:23.57 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@81.144.163.60) |
| 08:24.05 | *** join/#debian uuni (~Jellyfish@c-69-136-41-212.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 08:24.28 | thyphus_ | hi. is it possible to install proftpd and vsftpd on one machine via apt-get? vsftpd is installed and i need proftpd (different listen port) |
| 08:24.43 | *** join/#debian cmoy (~lollies@124-170-113-43.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 08:25.59 | EnergyCoffee | yep |
| 08:26.27 | EnergyCoffee | the second one either won't start, or it might throw an error about the port being in use |
| 08:26.47 | EnergyCoffee | once you modify the config to set a new port, you should be able to restart it and you'll be good |
| 08:26.51 | *** join/#debian WormDude (~wormfood@14.154.179.48) |
| 08:27.05 | thyphus_ | EnergyCoffee: no, vsftpd will be uninstalled if i try to install proftpd |
| 08:27.16 | *** join/#debian stoffus (~stoffus@c-91ed70d5.016-150-7570701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 08:28.01 | *** join/#debian moty66 (~chatzilla@host144-202-static.24-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:28.55 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~djbarney@silentflame/member/grobda24) |
| 08:28.58 | *** join/#debian LnxBil (~LnxBil@p5099afb6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:29.10 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 08:29.42 | EnergyCoffee | thyphus_: ah I see the problem |
| 08:29.43 | LnxBil | Hi folks! I've upgraded a Lenny-Xen-Drbd-Cluster to Wheezy (and more disks, more ram, more cpu) and everything seems MUCH slower. Any other impressions to back this up? |
| 08:30.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1250] by debhelper |
| 08:30.51 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@ril69-3-88-169-251-156.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:31.51 | korn36 | anyone using apparmor on debian? |
| 08:32.05 | korn36 | when installing apparmor, i got this message: AppArmor not available as kernel LSM.. |
| 08:32.07 | korn36 | is this normal? |
| 08:32.28 | korn36 | invoke-rc.d: initscript apparmor, action "start" failed. |
| 08:32.36 | korn36 | invoke-rc.d: initscript apparmor, action "reload" failed. |
| 08:32.44 | *** join/#debian mastro (~mastro@host161-73-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:34.57 | *** join/#debian noname001 (~santaclau@62-50-207-106.client.stsn.net) |
| 08:35.02 | *** join/#debian mastro (~mastro@host161-73-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:35.06 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 08:36.06 | osa | korn36, how did you install apparmor? default kernel? |
| 08:37.07 | osa | did you look at the wiki page: https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/HowTo |
| 08:37.20 | korn36 | I installled it via apt-get. Liquorix kernel. |
| 08:37.25 | *** join/#debian mumixam (~m@unaffiliated/mumixam) |
| 08:37.26 | korn36 | i'll now reboot with default kernel and see |
| 08:37.35 | *** join/#debian Screedo (~Screedo@h100n4-ld-c-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 08:37.42 | *** join/#debian MadsRC (~MadsRC@5634ee73.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 08:38.14 | korn36 | Ah, I didn't follow the "Enable the AA LSM" step from that howto |
| 08:38.27 | mastro | It's been a while my laptop hard freeze at random -- sometimes i just stay with the video and mouse stuck, can't do nothing but reboot (magic sysrq do not work either) -- sometimes it switch to console and show a kernel panic log, today it just did something different: it started beep-ing every few seconds, dmesg showed this: then it froze after 2 minutes http://paste.ubuntu.com/5935663/ |
| 08:38.48 | mastro | I really don't know how to debug this issue nor who I should ask for help, any hint will be appreciated |
| 08:39.17 | osa | korn36, server or desktop? |
| 08:39.22 | korn36 | desktop |
| 08:39.36 | *** join/#debian _mel_ (~melvin@ham.e-7.com) |
| 08:39.39 | korn36 | i want apparmor to prevent skype from reading the data it shouldn't read |
| 08:40.02 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 08:40.06 | korn36 | osa: I'm now rebooting |
| 08:40.13 | *** join/#debian RaycisCharles (RaycisChar@cpc5-lutn10-2-0-cust681.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 08:42.02 | *** join/#debian WormDude (~wormfood@14.154.178.97) |
| 08:42.14 | *** join/#debian korn36 (~kacper@unaffiliated/korn36) |
| 08:42.16 | *** join/#debian kalaukan (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 08:42.27 | korn36 | osa: during reboot apparmor flooded me with warnings |
| 08:42.36 | korn36 | can you link me to that wiki page again? |
| 08:42.57 | osa | sure: https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/HowTo |
| 08:43.03 | *** join/#debian fatalerrors (~fatalerro@ip-158.net-82-216-72.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 08:43.59 | *** join/#debian Alina-malina (Alina-mali@host-245.236.162.46.ucom.am) |
| 08:44.33 | korn36 | looks like apparmor works |
| 08:45.29 | korn36 | i ran this: ps auxZ | grep -v '^unconfined' and it said that avahi-daemon is protected by apparmor |
| 08:46.48 | *** join/#debian tormen_ (~me@lib59-1-82-225-122-122.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:47.10 | osa | isn't "aa-status" the better commmand to check what is confined/unconfined? |
| 08:47.27 | *** join/#debian StathisA (~StathisA@176.92.74.103) |
| 08:47.32 | *** join/#debian rage7 (~rage@hel59-4-88-160-125-53.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:47.40 | korn36 | avahi is in complain mode according to this command |
| 08:47.45 | wo0f | regarding discussion earlier about language, when is export LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 actually doing? |
| 08:47.54 | wo0f | i.e 'export' ? |
| 08:48.04 | wo0f | what is** |
| 08:48.06 | korn36 | export sets environment variable temporarily |
| 08:48.24 | korn36 | for example export ASD = DSA && print $ASD will print "DSA" |
| 08:48.45 | korn36 | *ASD=DSA, not ASD = DSA |
| 08:48.58 | jdoles | How can I see which program is uploading with more than XKB/s? nethogs doesn't tell me. |
| 08:49.00 | mumpitzel | wo0f: it sets a environment variable |
| 08:49.10 | mumpitzel | jdoles: iptraf ? |
| 08:49.36 | *** join/#debian gezgin (~weechat@unaffiliated/gezgin) |
| 08:49.39 | *** join/#debian achadwick (~achadwick@nat-alpha.ceu.ox.ac.uk) |
| 08:49.40 | osa | jdoles: are you running nethogs on the proper interface/user? |
| 08:50.02 | *** join/#debian ne0sis (~quassel@197.87.176.216) |
| 08:51.42 | korn36 | i hope that apparmor will work now... |
| 08:52.18 | osa | have you created a policy for skype? |
| 08:52.28 | jdoles | osa: I ran it as root. |
| 08:52.33 | korn36 | copied the profile from apparmor-profiles package |
| 08:52.39 | *** join/#debian cadeskywalker (~madoka@put92-2-212-194-144-131.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 08:52.41 | jdoles | mumpitzel: iptraf doesn't show pids. |
| 08:52.48 | korn36 | and ran aa-enforce to enforce rules on skype |
| 08:52.59 | jdoles | nethogs shows that root ? was uploading a lot. |
| 08:53.13 | jdoles | When I started iptraf it stopped... |
| 08:53.32 | korn36 | it worked! |
| 08:53.36 | osa | you could check /var/log/kern.log for apparmor denials or create your own apparmor policy |
| 08:54.18 | korn36 | yeah a lot of denials |
| 08:54.30 | korn36 | skype tries to mess with my pulseaudio, dbus, and some stuff in /proc/ |
| 08:54.33 | *** join/#debian bwana147 (~cbouvi@196-212-250-178.ftth.cust.kwaoo.net) |
| 08:54.36 | jdoles | mumpitzel: any other idea? |
| 08:54.46 | korn36 | i wonder why it wants to access my /var/lib/dbus/machine-id |
| 08:54.58 | *** join/#debian f10 (~f10@188-192-183-84-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 08:55.09 | osa | the NSA want to knwo who you are ;) |
| 08:55.49 | korn36 | it also wanted to mess with my cpu frequency |
| 08:56.14 | jelly | korn36: skype has a dbus api |
| 08:56.44 | jelly | it can be controlled by other apps via dbus and/or via X11 |
| 08:57.05 | *** join/#debian asakura (~asakura@gateway/tor-sasl/asakura) |
| 08:57.12 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 08:58.26 | milo64 | does cron require you to be root in order to config it? |
| 08:58.29 | *** join/#debian WormDude (~wormfood@183.14.18.254) |
| 08:58.50 | etherape | userlevel crontabs can be configured as user... |
| 08:59.06 | osa | milo64, every user has a crontab, you can edit it with "crontab -e" |
| 08:59.12 | milo64 | ok |
| 08:59.59 | *** join/#debian bal (~bal@2a02:6e00:1:3:6d57:475c:a8d4:5ae4) |
| 09:00.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1256] by debhelper |
| 09:00.11 | korn36 | anyone knows how to write an apparmor profile which will block access to some files? |
| 09:00.17 | *** join/#debian rozie (~rozie@ircer.ghostkeeper.mooo.com) |
| 09:00.27 | korn36 | cause when i look at skype profile in apparmor, i have no idea why that profile allows access to .mozilla |
| 09:00.50 | wo0f | ok thanks guys |
| 09:00.52 | wo0f | =] |
| 09:00.57 | *** join/#debian lpapp (~lpapp@kde/lpapp) |
| 09:00.58 | *** join/#debian boblee (~boblee@gateway/tor-sasl/boblee) |
| 09:01.06 | osa | korm36: remove that line out of the policy |
| 09:01.22 | *** join/#debian zeev (~zeev@bzq-79-180-1-104.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 09:01.34 | *** join/#debian alexy (~alexy@221.130.253.135) |
| 09:01.40 | osa | or create your own profile with aa-genprof /path/to/skype |
| 09:01.41 | korn36 | it's too late... nsa already has my cookies |
| 09:01.43 | *** join/#debian hashashin (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 09:03.09 | *** join/#debian _goTAN (~goTAN@HSI-KBW-46-223-104-162.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 09:03.58 | *** join/#debian jscott1989 (~jscott198@staff-vpn159.ecs.soton.ac.uk) |
| 09:04.46 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@233.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 09:04.53 | *** join/#debian Quacero (~quacero@p54B48F6C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:04.59 | *** join/#debian mumixam (~m@unaffiliated/mumixam) |
| 09:05.02 | zeev | Hi, I would like make usb-attachable external memory devices (flash, hard drive, etc) accessible(mountable) only by "mounters" group. How should I do it? Write in fstab group instead users and what then? |
| 09:05.37 | *** join/#debian tonyoy (~tonyoy@boz12-1-78-239-110-93.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:08.55 | *** join/#debian ulmer (~gnulix@89.204.155.80) |
| 09:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1264] by debhelper |
| 09:10.11 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@77.28.28.141) |
| 09:10.48 | *** join/#debian hashashin (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 09:12.50 | moty66 | I have a usb modem and hylafax, eveything works fine, except when I unplug the fax then plug it again it stops receiving, I have to restart /etc/init.d/hal |
| 09:13.01 | moty66 | is there anyway to do that automatically when I plug a new hardware? |
| 09:14.51 | rozie | moty66: worst case scenario - simple script, checking if modem is connected via lsusb, if was not connected in last check and is connected now - restart hal |
| 09:15.48 | moty66 | rozie: got it, I thought there was something simpler to do it |
| 09:16.41 | *** join/#debian phpjunkies (~quassel@61.247.52.138) |
| 09:17.36 | rozie | moty66: this is worst case. probably some udev rules or something like that allow to do this better way |
| 09:19.24 | *** join/#debian WormFood (~wormfood@183.49.47.112) |
| 09:19.34 | jdoles | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.48 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@2001:67c:1b68:3064:190b:c48a:dc0e:cb46) |
| 09:19.48 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@fsf/member/polto) |
| 09:20.56 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 09:21.29 | *** join/#debian stayarrr (~stayarrr@p4FEAB57B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:21.34 | mumpitzel | jdoles: then stop asking here |
| 09:22.43 | jdoles | mumpitzel: it's operating system independent. |
| 09:23.17 | mumpitzel | you run either ubuntu as you admitted or you run debian. if you run ubuntu then this is the WRONG channel. no matter how "independent" the problem is |
| 09:23.47 | mumpitzel | if you want distro independent support: ##linux. |
| 09:24.35 | *** join/#debian Bry8Star (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) |
| 09:24.38 | *** join/#debian cantoma (~ct@fire.cs.bath.ac.uk) |
| 09:25.27 | *** join/#debian xingsiuh (~xingxiuh@61.155.18.17) |
| 09:25.31 | jdoles | mumpitzel: I run both. |
| 09:26.34 | jdoles | mumpitzel: anyway, it would be nice if you could say something useful instead of the equivalent of "go to hell". |
| 09:27.24 | moty66 | rozie: thanks for the hint, I think that I can fix this with a udev rule |
| 09:27.40 | *** join/#debian Sidze_ (~Sidze_@ks3267440.kimsufi.com) |
| 09:28.16 | *** join/#debian StephenS (~StephenS@xshellz/founder/StephenS) |
| 09:28.40 | mumpitzel | jdoles: your 13k unknown traffic happen only in one distro, can't be both. |
| 09:28.47 | *** join/#debian Selveste1_Laptop (~hds@2-106-181-226-static.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 09:29.01 | *** join/#debian hourd (~dan@109.169.86.20) |
| 09:29.32 | *** join/#debian Walex (~Walex@78-86-80-54.zone2.bethere.co.uk) |
| 09:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1270] by debhelper |
| 09:30.08 | osa | jdoles: disable everything that creates traffic that you know of, run wireshark and inspect the packets comming through |
| 09:30.11 | *** join/#debian desti_T2 (~desti@dslb-092-073-152-216.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:31.25 | *** join/#debian drhouse123 (~drhouse12@2.134.151.221) |
| 09:32.55 | cmoy | jdoles, pull your network cable out :P |
| 09:33.20 | *** join/#debian [olli] (~olli@86.110.198.34) |
| 09:33.30 | *** join/#debian huayra (~ruben@jotunheimen2.visitor.camp.ohm2013.org) |
| 09:33.30 | *** join/#debian huayra (~ruben@ubuntu/member/hubuntu) |
| 09:34.11 | *** part/#debian OldParr (~piache@190.204.13.7) |
| 09:34.41 | *** join/#debian [olli] (~olli@86.110.198.34) |
| 09:35.47 | *** join/#debian Sweetsha1k (~bjoern@port-32509.pppoe.wtnet.de) |
| 09:36.42 | *** join/#debian Selveste1_Laptop (~hds@31.25.23.230) |
| 09:38.52 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@85-126-76-82.work.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 09:39.24 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@85-126-76-82.work.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 09:39.32 | *** join/#debian godfrey_ (~godfrey@218.240.131.98) |
| 09:40.14 | godfrey__ | ls |
| 09:40.26 | *** join/#debian intosh (~intosh@staticline41658.toya.net.pl) |
| 09:40.30 | osa | jdoles: btw, there is a "unhide-tcp program |
| 09:40.32 | *** join/#debian WormFood (~wormfood@14.155.220.9) |
| 09:40.43 | jelly | godfrey__: ls: command not found |
| 09:41.20 | *** join/#debian denver (~denver@ppp-109-58.26-151.libero.it) |
| 09:43.01 | *** join/#debian redarrow_ (~redarrow@gateway/tor-sasl/redarrow) |
| 09:43.03 | *** join/#debian bst_ (~bst@chello084113221099.3.14.vie.surfer.at) |
| 09:43.38 | *** join/#debian jscott1989 (~jscott198@dab-bhx1-h-24-10.dab.02.net) |
| 09:45.08 | *** join/#debian elppdppd (~elppdppd@178.128.202.155.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 09:48.25 | *** join/#debian Alina-malina (Alina-mali@host-245.236.162.46.ucom.am) |
| 09:51.13 | *** join/#debian ZetaNeta (~LoCoZeNoz@APoitiers-651-1-222-85.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:53.32 | *** join/#debian kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) |
| 09:54.40 | *** join/#debian mk3548208 (~chatzilla@115.201.43.126) |
| 09:55.03 | *** join/#debian crane_work (~crane@gw1.cgn3.hosteurope.de) |
| 09:55.23 | *** join/#debian BitPuffin (~quassel@s193-13-104-175.cust.tele2.se) |
| 09:55.35 | *** join/#debian wmalik (~wasif@62.217.45.66) |
| 09:56.28 | *** join/#debian xingsiuh (~xingxiuh@61.155.18.17) |
| 09:56.51 | *** join/#debian verysoftoiletppr (~verysofto@unaffiliated/softtoiletpaper) |
| 09:57.43 | *** join/#debian pzn (~pzn@187.66.189.188) |
| 09:57.43 | *** join/#debian pzn (~pzn@pdpc/supporter/active/pzn) |
| 09:59.55 | verysoftoiletppr | I've just replaced my /lib/modules/3.4.43 with new compiled modules |
| 09:59.57 | verysoftoiletppr | what's the command to refresh them all? |
| 10:00.03 | *** join/#debian bibi23 (~chatzilla@bea75-1-82-234-123-170.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:00.44 | *** join/#debian xingsiuh (~xingxiuh@61.155.18.17) |
| 10:01.31 | *** join/#debian Quacero (~quacero@p54B48038.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:01.55 | nkuttler | verysoftoiletppr: shutdown -r now ? |
| 10:02.10 | bibi23 | hi, I'm trying to install git-core package, usually I only do "apt-get install git-core", but on one server I'm getting the following "Err http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates/main libcurl3-gnutls amd64 7.21.0-2.1+squeeze3 404 Not Found", what should I do? thx |
| 10:02.13 | *** join/#debian halim (~halim@188-23-92-118.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 10:02.14 | verysoftoiletppr | nkuttler depmod -a not needed? |
| 10:02.27 | *** join/#debian grandie (~Grandad@p4FD4FCAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:02.36 | nkuttler | verysoftoiletppr: how did you actually "replace" them? debian kernels should handle that |
| 10:02.41 | verysoftoiletppr | nkuttler what is the difference between shutdown -r and reboot? |
| 10:02.51 | verysoftoiletppr | nkuttler I replaced the folder |
| 10:02.55 | verysoftoiletppr | with mv |
| 10:03.01 | themill | ,v libcurl3-gnutls |
| 10:03.02 | judd | Package: libcurl3-gnutls on i386 -- squeeze: 7.21.0-2.1+squeeze2; squeeze-proposed-updates: 7.21.0-2.1+squeeze4; squeeze-security: 7.21.0-2.1+squeeze4; wheezy: 7.26.0-1+wheezy2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 7.26.0-1+wheezy3; wheezy-security: 7.26.0-1+wheezy3; jessie: 7.31.0-2; sid: 7.31.0-2 |
| 10:03.06 | nkuttler | verysoftoiletppr: why on earth would you do that? |
| 10:03.07 | verysoftoiletppr | s/folder/directory |
| 10:03.19 | verysoftoiletppr | nkuttler I need a modules which is not installed |
| 10:03.21 | themill | bibi23: looks like you need to run "apt-get update" on that machine |
| 10:03.26 | nkuttler | verysoftoiletppr: which is? |
| 10:03.49 | verysoftoiletppr | nkuttler xfs |
| 10:03.54 | themill | bibi23: (also, it's just "git" not "git-core") |
| 10:03.55 | jelly | vectr0n: it used to be depmod -a, but I'm not sure whether that's enough now |
| 10:03.59 | verysoftoiletppr | but this is not the default debian kernel |
| 10:04.01 | jelly | verysoftoiletppr: ^^ |
| 10:04.12 | verysoftoiletppr | stripped |
| 10:04.18 | nkuttler | i thought xfs was in debian kernels? |
| 10:04.39 | verysoftoiletppr | nkuttler [11:03:57] <verysoftoiletppr> but this is not the default debian kernel |
| 10:04.59 | themill | nkuttler: verysoftoiletppr thinks that it's fun to make work for himself and everyone else. |
| 10:05.00 | nkuttler | verysoftoiletppr: i know, i can read. why are you not using the debian kernel? |
| 10:05.01 | bibi23 | themill: wonderful, thx |
| 10:05.09 | *** join/#debian grzesag (~grzesag@163.1.246.33) |
| 10:05.10 | nkuttler | themill: i see |
| 10:05.16 | jelly | verysoftoiletppr: also, if you rebuilt, there's a chance the new modules will not match your running vmlinuz |
| 10:05.49 | jelly | verysoftoiletppr: you'll want to (re)create a new initramfs image and reboot, to be safe |
| 10:06.03 | *** join/#debian hashashin (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 10:06.09 | *** join/#debian wmalik (~wasif@62.217.45.66) |
| 10:06.46 | *** join/#debian infinity0x (~infinity0@freenet/developer/infinity0) |
| 10:06.50 | verysoftoiletppr | jelly since this i 3.4 it doesn't have yet initramfs |
| 10:07.19 | *** join/#debian mechanicalduck (~mechanica@37-252-110-16.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 10:07.34 | *** join/#debian lexluther (~nono@99-127-125-85.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net) |
| 10:07.59 | *** part/#debian lexluther (~nono@99-127-125-85.lightspeed.renonv.sbcglobal.net) |
| 10:08.18 | jelly | verysoftoiletppr: that doesn't make a lot of sense |
| 10:08.22 | *** join/#debian bigbee (~BigB@p4FD4FCAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:08.27 | halim | hello, i'm interested in running debian on my box but as you can guess, there are programs (mainly games) which require windows as an OS. i was wondering whether it was possible to use a type I virtualization program/system to run 2 OSs "simultaneiously" (maybe automatically suspending current OS to ram and resuming second). is something like that possible? |
| 10:08.48 | verysoftoiletppr | jelly initramfs is the solution introduced for the 2.6 Linux kernel series. |
| 10:09.01 | *** join/#debian dada_- (~dada@4aa54-4-82-234-150-40.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:09.07 | *** join/#debian infinity0x (~infinity0@freenet/developer/infinity0) |
| 10:09.51 | jelly | verysoftoiletppr: huh? |
| 10:10.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1279] by debhelper |
| 10:10.32 | verysoftoiletppr | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Initramfs |
| 10:10.45 | jelly | verysoftoiletppr: what's your point? |
| 10:11.15 | verysoftoiletppr | jelly that I don't have initramfs because my kernel version is inferior to 2.6 |
| 10:11.16 | jelly | verysoftoiletppr: 3.4.43 is newer and a continuation of 2.6.x.y |
| 10:11.22 | verysoftoiletppr | oh |
| 10:11.24 | themill | verysoftoiletppr: that page says "introduced for 2.6" and doesn't mention that it was removed... |
| 10:11.39 | verysoftoiletppr | somehow I read 2.6 |
| 10:11.41 | verysoftoiletppr | thanks :D |
| 10:11.48 | jelly | verysoftoiletppr: Debian puts some functionality straight into initramfs, eg. hibernate/resume depends on it. Does your custom kernel boot at all? |
| 10:12.04 | verysoftoiletppr | jelly it does |
| 10:12.36 | jelly | well then, if that's good enough for you, go with that |
| 10:13.04 | *** join/#debian ulmer (~gnulix@89.204.155.80) |
| 10:13.42 | *** join/#debian ZetaNeta (~LoCoZeNoz@APoitiers-651-1-222-85.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:14.27 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@194.214.63.254) |
| 10:14.48 | fly-away | debootstrap installing outdated packages |
| 10:14.50 | fly-away | why? |
| 10:14.59 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~TomyLobo@91-65-210-133-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 10:15.56 | jelly | fly-away: outdated how? Which release are you targeting and which package do you see outdated? |
| 10:16.11 | fly-away | its ubuntu precise in fact |
| 10:16.18 | fly-away | but anyway |
| 10:16.25 | *** join/#debian Noskcaj (~Noskcaj@ubuntu/member/noskcaj) |
| 10:16.43 | jelly | fly-away: are you using debootstrap on debian or something else? |
| 10:16.56 | fly-away | on ubuntu)) |
| 10:17.04 | fly-away | its little offtopic here i guess |
| 10:17.09 | jelly | fly-away: you'll want the #ubuntu channel, then |
| 10:17.09 | themill | fly-away: (a) wrong channel (b) don't cross-post (c) there's still not enough detail there for anyone to help you |
| 10:18.13 | fly-away | themill, Ive runinng debootstrap somapackages persice /chroot http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu |
| 10:18.28 | jelly | I don't have the resources to figure out whether a debootstrap of precise is fetching outdated packages or not |
| 10:18.48 | fly-away | and after chrooting to target dir and runnind apt-get update && aptitude full-upgrate |
| 10:18.59 | fly-away | I see lot of packages to update |
| 10:19.04 | themill | fly-away: #ubuntu is over there → |
| 10:19.08 | fly-away | ok) |
| 10:20.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1271] by debhelper |
| 10:20.50 | moty66 | where I can find udevinfo? |
| 10:21.29 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212.149.213.33) |
| 10:22.43 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 10:23.09 | *** join/#debian katla (~brook@unaffiliated/katla) |
| 10:23.20 | katla | how do i find out what sound system my setup is using? |
| 10:23.58 | *** join/#debian ZetaNeta (~LoCoZeNoz@APoitiers-651-1-222-85.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:24.40 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@c114-77-119-54.chirn2.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 10:25.23 | gnarface | katla: probably if you don't have pulse audio running it is alsa |
| 10:26.01 | katla | yeah I think it is alsa, but is there a way to inspet any given system and find out about sound? |
| 10:26.14 | gnarface | well yes sortof |
| 10:26.30 | gnarface | but which sound subsystem to actually use (since they're not all mutually exclusive) is a per-application configuration |
| 10:26.48 | gnarface | so its not like you can just check your system control panel and see what all the programs use in one central location |
| 10:27.04 | katla | oh right |
| 10:27.19 | gnarface | you may have alsa and pulse installed, but be using pulse for some programs and alsa for others, and oss even for some older programs (through alsa's oss compatibility module) |
| 10:27.42 | katla | i dont think i have pulse now, but im thinking about installing it and I dont really have information about how to do it and what to look out for and stuff |
| 10:28.07 | gnarface | oh and openal, which some things use instead, needs to be configured to not use pulse by default if its installed but you don't want openal using it (which can be an issue for some wine operations) |
| 10:28.58 | gnarface | alsa is annoying but i am not sure pulse supports more than 2-channel audio |
| 10:29.00 | *** join/#debian ezra-s (~ezra@mx01.sigiei.es) |
| 10:29.10 | fly-away | hm |
| 10:29.16 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@194.214.63.254) |
| 10:29.34 | fly-away | is it possible to add backports and updates repo to debootstrap? |
| 10:29.49 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@119.42.114.123) |
| 10:30.07 | gnarface | oh hmm. pulseaudio may actually support surround-sound, maybe its just not on by default |
| 10:30.32 | themill | fly-away: still wrong channel |
| 10:31.18 | *** join/#debian Katafalkas (~Katafalka@88-119-150-24.static.zebra.lt) |
| 10:31.27 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@anon-52-31.vpn.ipredator.se) |
| 10:31.29 | *** join/#debian infinity0 (~infinity0@freenet/developer/infinity0) |
| 10:31.41 | *** join/#debian AsumFace (~asumface@31-17-32-113-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 10:31.52 | *** join/#debian anon4795 (~jc@AMontpellier-652-1-124-56.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:32.38 | *** join/#debian metala (~metala@82.119.64.168) |
| 10:34.59 | *** join/#debian Droolio (~drool@host86-177-53-93.range86-177.btcentralplus.com) |
| 10:36.09 | *** join/#debian funyun (~funyun@cpe-65-25-103-89.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 10:36.25 | gnarface | katla: a lot of people swear by pulse audio and claim its much higher-quality resampling and general audio playback |
| 10:36.30 | *** join/#debian _Paul (~Paul@p5DE884D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:36.45 | gnarface | katla: personally my suggestion to you is not to install it though; it complicates things |
| 10:37.24 | gnarface | unless there's something alsa can't do that you need to do... |
| 10:37.32 | *** join/#debian sidus (~abracadab@37-5-73-205-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 10:38.13 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@unaffiliated/nodiscc) |
| 10:38.38 | *** join/#debian ZetaNeta (~LoCoZeNoz@APoitiers-651-1-222-85.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:42.48 | *** join/#debian zeev (~zeev@bzq-79-180-1-104.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 10:43.14 | Rockj | Q: is /etc/timezone always there on a clean installed system? |
| 10:43.25 | zeev | Hi, I found this in a tutorial, but I don't know which command does it, please help. "Started a shell with the root set to /dev/mapper... " |
| 10:43.51 | *** join/#debian babilen_ (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 10:44.31 | mumpitzel | zeev: chroot /dev/mapper... |
| 10:45.10 | zeev | mumpitzel: I tried this, but it says No such file or directory... |
| 10:45.43 | mumpitzel | zeev: the chroot you create must have a shell and its libs, etc present inside of it or it cannot work |
| 10:45.45 | zeev | mumpitzel: I booted a liveCD and try to fix a problem on my root partition |
| 10:45.46 | mumpitzel | !chroot |
| 10:45.47 | dpkg | a way to change the root directory of a process, see also http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch09#_chroot_system |
| 10:46.17 | mumpitzel | zeev: mount your / then. and then "chroot <mountpoint>", you can't chroot into a device file |
| 10:46.45 | *** join/#debian hashashin (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 10:46.47 | zeev | ok, lets try... thank you... |
| 10:47.33 | *** part/#debian Quacero (~quacero@p54B48038.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:47.48 | *** join/#debian Crabunhador (~Crabunhad@237.Red-81-39-101.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:48.10 | *** join/#debian anon4675 (~jc@AMontpellier-652-1-124-56.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:49.10 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-207-112-90-158.tor.primus.ca) |
| 10:49.46 | zeev | mumpitzel: mount says that /dev/mapper... doesn't exist... it also do not appear in mtab... its an encrypted partition (lvm) ... how do I access it? |
| 10:51.09 | mumpitzel | I don't know, sorry. |
| 10:51.34 | mumpitzel | are you using a debian live cd? |
| 10:51.50 | *** join/#debian nabblet (~benedict@82.113.106.136) |
| 10:51.58 | zeev | yes |
| 10:52.36 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@103.11.49.125) |
| 10:53.03 | nabblet | hi, what vnc server can you recommend? i want to controll a small, headless file server (maybe play some music from it) - people will access it with all kind of OSs (mac, windows, linux) |
| 10:53.21 | nabblet | small in the sense of performance |
| 10:53.39 | *** join/#debian funyun (~funyun@cpe-65-25-103-89.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 10:56.02 | *** join/#debian DoctorD90 (53e04532@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.224.69.50) |
| 10:56.20 | *** join/#debian moty66_ (~moty66@dynamic-adsl-94-38-135-207.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 10:56.21 | *** join/#debian splinux (~splinux@fedora/splinux) |
| 10:56.32 | *** join/#debian Devastatr (~devas@unaffiliated/devastator) |
| 10:56.49 | *** join/#debian xpd259 (~Icedove@90.216.163.160) |
| 10:56.57 | *** join/#debian mikul-laptop (~mikul@c-2dfee155.021-2-64736c12.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:57.04 | mumpitzel | nabblet: it isn't performancecritical. I'd use tightvncserver since it brings its own X server with it |
| 10:57.10 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@unaffiliated/t3oss) |
| 10:58.27 | mumpitzel | nabblet: sorry, it's vnc4server |
| 10:58.35 | *** join/#debian ideea (~textual@195.122.3.68) |
| 10:58.47 | *** join/#debian carandraug (~carandrau@193.137.143.16) |
| 10:58.49 | *** join/#debian carandraug (~carandrau@octave/developer/carandraug) |
| 10:59.05 | *** part/#debian DoctorD90 (53e04532@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.224.69.50) |
| 10:59.09 | *** join/#debian dimaursu16 (~dimon@188.138.247.122) |
| 10:59.20 | nabblet | mumpitzel: i think computer it pretty weak |
| 10:59.49 | nabblet | mumpitzel: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/C60M1I/ |
| 10:59.57 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 11:00.55 | *** join/#debian tonyoy (~tonyoy@boz12-1-78-239-110-93.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:01.02 | *** join/#debian vt100 (ca34f5c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.52.245.194) |
| 11:01.35 | nabblet | mumpitzel: currently i see thightvnc, x11vnc and vnc4server available for wheezy (leaving aside the vonserver of differen DEs) - i think(not sure if correct) that vnc4server is the heaviest. so it is thight vs x11. and as in understodd, x11 brings bult in ssl encryption |
| 11:01.43 | *** join/#debian xpd259 (~Icedove@90.216.163.160) |
| 11:02.09 | nabblet | problem is i don't have the server with me to test it, that's why i ask for recommendations |
| 11:02.34 | *** join/#debian cyrano (~cyrano@net-93-144-195-188.cust.dsl.teletu.it) |
| 11:03.34 | Rockj | Is there any specific reason for why I can't seed another box with debconf-get-selections tzdata to the new one? debconf-set-selections doesn't seem to respect the values kinda, since debconf-get-selections on tzdata marks severals timezones as selected ... (system had utc first then changed to another one... ) . So is debconf-get-selections supposed to remember that the old UTC one was selected? |
| 11:04.03 | Rockj | (trying to seed another virtual box with debconf configuration, and I find it odd that it wont accept tzdata.) |
| 11:04.30 | *** join/#debian _BJFreeman (~bjfree@100.sub-75-196-87.myvzw.com) |
| 11:05.17 | gnarface | Rockj: i believe its a known and fairly common problem that you can't send the literal debconf-get-selections log back in to debconf-set-selections to get the same settings for ... most packages. tzdata i remember being listed as a specific example when i read about this |
| 11:05.26 | *** join/#debian Roenie (~Roenie@D978CF38.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 11:05.32 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:05.49 | Rockj | I thought that was the whole point of debconf-(get|set)-selections... |
| 11:06.32 | gnarface | Rockj: i agree, its dumb, but apparently you just have to clean up the output and figure out what settings it actually used and use them, and ignore the chaff |
| 11:07.11 | gnarface | Rockj: i think a point was missed somewhere for sure but it was probably a long time ago |
| 11:07.12 | Rockj | wouldn't that really be the job for «dpkg-reconfigure package» to fix it really? |
| 11:07.34 | *** join/#debian Katafalkas (~Katafalka@88-119-96-131.static.zebra.lt) |
| 11:07.46 | *** join/#debian bigbee (~BigB@p4FD4FCAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:09.08 | gnarface | no, i don't think so because that's really a user tool. debconf-get/set-selections is for preseeding and other sorts of bootstrapping automation i believe |
| 11:09.15 | Rockj | I mean, shouldn't package.postinst scripts be smart enough to clean up after it self? |
| 11:10.09 | gnarface | write the package maintainer and ask him that, i dare you |
| 11:10.11 | Rockj | when you do run dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, it sets it values via debconf, and the .postinst packages reads information from it .. IMO it should clean up as well the old values and only set the new ones |
| 11:10.56 | gnarface | some of the packages might... |
| 11:10.59 | *** join/#debian daedeloth (~daedeloth@ip-83-134-175-14.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 11:11.00 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@194.214.63.254) |
| 11:11.21 | daedeloth | hm, strange problem. I've mounted a share with cifs (in /etc/fstab) |
| 11:11.21 | Rockj | so when using debconf-get/set-selections for preseeding another box, it should just work out of the box |
| 11:11.26 | daedeloth | root has write access, other users don't |
| 11:11.33 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 11:11.38 | *** join/#debian lpapp (~lpapp@kde/lpapp) |
| 11:11.40 | *** join/#debian verysoftoiletppr (~verysofto@unaffiliated/softtoiletpaper) |
| 11:11.41 | lpapp | jelly: about? |
| 11:13.27 | *** join/#debian pl9308 (~pl9308@p54A801E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:13.51 | Rockj | gnarface: but I'm analyzing this wrong or? In a perfect world it should do that? I mean, for other packages that debconf-(get|set)-selections works for, I assume .postinst configure cleans up after it self after a new configuration change? |
| 11:14.04 | lpapp | jelly-home: ls -ld /mnt/wheezy/dev/shm |
| 11:14.04 | lpapp | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 40 Aug 1 11:27 /mnt/wheezy/dev/shm |
| 11:15.50 | gnarface | Rockj: i agree with you, i was disappointed to find that out too, but i don't know. either they clean up after themselves or they're just coincidentally symmetrical that way. i'm sure there's a good reason for it not being a requirement |
| 11:16.48 | *** join/#debian Losowski (~Galicja@176.122.215.241) |
| 11:17.05 | moty66 | how can I log all data from a serial port? |
| 11:17.11 | *** join/#debian arare (~Aramur@153.68.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 11:17.36 | moty66 | the port com1 |
| 11:18.04 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-44c53469.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 11:20.11 | *** join/#debian Onixs_ (~Onixs@124.105.107.68) |
| 11:20.28 | *** join/#debian babilen_ (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 11:20.28 | Rockj | gnarface: I guess I'll see if I dare to send the guy/guys an email and ask them about it. :-) |
| 11:21.48 | *** join/#debian Raknymos (~Raknymos@monoceres.uberspace.de) |
| 11:21.57 | nabblet | moty66: also the data you send? |
| 11:22.17 | moty66 | nabblet: no, it is one way communication |
| 11:22.25 | moty66 | nabblet: from device to debian |
| 11:22.42 | nabblet | moty66: hm, i would try to access the /dev/serial or something |
| 11:22.45 | *** join/#debian Pavel (~pavel@203.10.91.11) |
| 11:22.56 | nabblet | moty66: dunno cat /dev/serial > log.txt |
| 11:22.58 | nabblet | or something |
| 11:23.00 | nabblet | no warranty |
| 11:23.36 | nabblet | hm, what's the name of the prog again, used for serial port communcation? |
| 11:24.08 | moty66 | nabblet: googling I found cereal |
| 11:24.15 | nabblet | moty66: no that's not it |
| 11:24.24 | moty66 | but I don't know which device is my com1 port |
| 11:24.24 | nabblet | moty66: btw, just wound out, serial ports are tty |
| 11:24.53 | moty66 | hmm, maybe /dev/ttyS1 |
| 11:25.11 | nabblet | moty66: see what happens if your cat it |
| 11:25.40 | moty66 | cat: /dev/ttyS1: Input/output error |
| 11:25.49 | nabblet | moty66: ok, that was expected |
| 11:25.51 | nabblet | somehow |
| 11:25.51 | *** join/#debian MaddinXx (~MaddinXx@zux221-111-174.adsl.green.ch) |
| 11:25.58 | *** join/#debian zerox (~zeroxia@220.248.121.44) |
| 11:26.02 | *** part/#debian Losowski (~Galicja@176.122.215.241) |
| 11:26.48 | *** join/#debian Knaldgas (~pdj@31.25.22.218) |
| 11:27.19 | nabblet | moty66: minicom! |
| 11:27.21 | moty66 | I have a dell poweredge 1750, maybe I need to install a driver |
| 11:27.23 | nabblet | that's the mane |
| 11:27.28 | nabblet | *name |
| 11:27.53 | *** join/#debian gm152 (~ridout@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 11:28.12 | *** join/#debian silence1 (~silence@194.50.96.33) |
| 11:28.52 | nabblet | moty66: ah! minicom has a log option! |
| 11:29.02 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~daniel@141.21.13.129) |
| 11:29.14 | *** join/#debian Katafalkas (~Katafalka@88-119-150-24.static.zebra.lt) |
| 11:29.34 | silence1 | Hi everyone. I've a file server which unsuspectedly has rebooted. I've checked up the /var/log/messages and I see the following: https://dpaste.de/Ekww2/ Can anyone explain why it did shutdown/reboot? Is it caused by rsync? Thanks in advance. |
| 11:29.39 | nabblet | moty66: http://linux.die.net/man/1/minicom |
| 11:29.42 | *** join/#debian bmr (bmr@nat/redhat/x-pwfuudieskvswjjt) |
| 11:30.04 | *** join/#debian xpd259 (~Icedove@90.216.163.160) |
| 11:30.44 | moty66 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.08 | nabblet | moty66: i am 99% sure you don't need drivers for a serial port |
| 11:31.17 | nabblet | moty66: what is on the other end of the serial bus? |
| 11:31.50 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 11:32.04 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@146-115-183-141.c3-0.wtr-ubr1.sbo-wtr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 11:32.05 | moty66 | nabblet: netlinx controller www.amx.com |
| 11:32.31 | moty66 | nabblet: I am sure that the device send data, because I can read them on a PC with realterm |
| 11:32.31 | *** join/#debian tacos1de (~tacos1de@gateway/tor-sasl/tacos1de) |
| 11:32.34 | nabblet | moty66: also you could give wireshark a try - i know it is made for tcp packet sniffing, but it can sniff all kind of communcation... e.g. usb |
| 11:32.40 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@fsf/member/polto) |
| 11:32.44 | nabblet | moty66: maybe it can do serial ports too |
| 11:33.42 | moty66 | nabblet: usually, which dev is the com1 ? /dev/ttyS0 ? |
| 11:34.10 | *** join/#debian DM| (~Wewt|Mang@79-101-194-21.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 11:34.46 | nabblet | moty66: yes |
| 11:35.15 | nabblet | i am pretty sure there is a simple way to pipe output drom a tty to a file |
| 11:35.27 | nabblet | a dumb one-liner |
| 11:36.42 | moty66 | nabblet: http://paste.debian.net/21478/ |
| 11:36.51 | moty66 | the output of lshal | grep serial |
| 11:37.13 | nabblet | moty66: so amx do what exactly? conference room technology? |
| 11:37.35 | moty66 | nabblet: lot of stuff, for automation also |
| 11:38.08 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host52-231-static.242-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 11:38.21 | nabblet | and what are they automating? |
| 11:38.29 | *** join/#debian arran-g (~arran@web.arrangallagher.org) |
| 11:38.38 | *** join/#debian cromag (gallowsfo@pishest.dk) |
| 11:38.39 | *** join/#debian cromag (gallowsfo@irssi/user/cromag) |
| 11:39.24 | nabblet | moty66: do you want to see the data AND log it, or will logging alone be ok too? |
| 11:39.45 | moty66 | nabblet: I need to log only |
| 11:40.04 | moty66 | nabblet: to be examined later |
| 11:40.27 | moty66 | nabblet: I don't have any tcp/ip connection from amx, only serial port |
| 11:40.30 | nabblet | moty66: hm, they came up with the same idea i had http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/42376/reading-from-serial-from-linux-command-line |
| 11:40.36 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 11:41.19 | moty66 | cat: -: Input/output error |
| 11:41.49 | *** join/#debian kresp0 (~kresp0@115.Red-83-35-233.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:41.49 | nabblet | :/ |
| 11:41.55 | sobkas | what happening to git.debian.org? |
| 11:42.07 | nabblet | moty66: maybe ask in ##hardware? |
| 11:42.20 | nabblet | moty66: i can't help you much more than keep on guessing |
| 11:42.31 | moty66 | nabblet: thanks a lot |
| 11:42.51 | nabblet | moty66: so far, the only real experience i have with serial ports was minicom |
| 11:43.05 | nabblet | moty66: it will give you all your tty communication to the terminaö |
| 11:43.08 | nabblet | *terminal |
| 11:44.19 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 11:44.30 | nabblet | moty66: i see some attempts to communicate with C programming - but i think that's way over the top |
| 11:45.19 | moty66 | nabblet: it is not a problem, but before that, I have to be sure that I can read the data from my com1 port |
| 11:45.25 | moty66 | nabblet: I guess the problem is there |
| 11:45.33 | nabblet | moty66: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/ttylog |
| 11:45.40 | nabblet | moty66: tried this? ^ |
| 11:45.57 | *** part/#debian lpapp (~lpapp@kde/lpapp) |
| 11:46.03 | moty66 | is installing ttylog |
| 11:46.25 | nabblet | moty66: it'd be surprised if you were the first one that ever wanted to log tty |
| 11:46.26 | nabblet | :P |
| 11:46.28 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 11:46.44 | nabblet | moty66: and i'd be more surporised if noone ever cared to solve it ;) |
| 11:47.39 | moty66 | nabblet: I guess that ttyS0 is my usb moden :| |
| 11:47.49 | *** join/#debian tumi (~tumii@line-20015.dyn.kponet.fi) |
| 11:47.59 | nabblet | moty66: well then |
| 11:48.13 | nabblet | moty66: what you can do. plug and unplg that amx thing and the look in demsg |
| 11:48.25 | nabblet | moty66: that's how i figured out the serial port |
| 11:48.40 | nabblet | moty66: unplug and replug :P |
| 11:49.10 | moty66 | a moment |
| 11:49.47 | moty66 | no changes on dmesg |
| 11:49.56 | nabblet | Oo |
| 11:50.08 | nabblet | syslog maybe? |
| 11:50.15 | moty66 | before unplug last line was [1014604.944897] cdc_acm 1-3:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device and after it is the same |
| 11:50.27 | nabblet | hn |
| 11:50.38 | *** join/#debian dimaursu16 (~dimon@188.138.247.122) |
| 11:50.40 | nabblet | hm |
| 11:50.48 | moty66 | nothing in syslog |
| 11:50.52 | nabblet | hm |
| 11:51.05 | nabblet | look in /dev/tty* |
| 11:51.17 | silence1 | So anyone? |
| 11:51.19 | nabblet | see if you see difference when it is plugged and then unplugged |
| 11:51.44 | nabblet | silence1: hm, dunno, sorry |
| 11:51.45 | moty66 | it is a com port, i don't think that there will be anychange |
| 11:51.50 | silence1 | gosh almost ~1300 people in the channel and nobody is able to answer :< |
| 11:51.54 | *** join/#debian bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@127.Red-88-13-167.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:52.19 | nabblet | moty66: ther MUST be an indication that something changes |
| 11:52.26 | nabblet | moty66: or the hardware is broken |
| 11:52.37 | silence1 | moty66: configure minicom to use that.. and configure the baut rate.. Also don't forget to set Hardware control to no |
| 11:52.40 | silence1 | done. |
| 11:52.44 | nabblet | moty66: but at some point your system has to see, that something get's attached |
| 11:53.05 | *** join/#debian chaiz (~chaiz@ppp-124-121-188-210.revip2.asianet.co.th) |
| 11:53.06 | silence1 | nabblet: I don't konw if it is a rsync problem or a debian one. |
| 11:53.29 | silence1 | s/kown/know. I almost made it a cow. |
| 11:54.14 | *** join/#debian [olli] (~olli@86.110.198.34) |
| 11:54.37 | *** join/#debian wdouglass (~user@70-90-222-153-pittsburgh.pa.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 11:54.43 | nabblet | silence1: woll don't know either- can't read traces |
| 11:55.44 | moty66 | nabblet: seems that I have no driver for that port |
| 11:55.48 | silence1 | nabblet: no problem. I know it is a "take it for granted" thing when asking the community :) |
| 11:55.48 | t3oss | who made http protocol? |
| 11:55.48 | *** join/#debian iceflatline (~iceflatli@ip68-100-130-114.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 11:55.57 | moty66 | nabblet: https://wiki.debian.org/it/HowToIdentifyADevice/Serial |
| 11:56.27 | Walex | t3oss: Berners-Lee along with HTML. |
| 11:57.05 | nabblet | moty66: hm, maybe you're right... do they support linux? |
| 11:57.06 | Walex | t3oss: but it is far more important to know who looks after HTTP, and that is the W3C.org (and the head is Berners-Lee) |
| 11:57.38 | *** join/#debian Ponsjuh (~Ponsjuh@212.29.183.66) |
| 11:57.49 | Walex | silence1: sometimes you have to ask for a while...: repeat the full question every 10-15 minutes. |
| 11:58.15 | moty66 | nabblet: I am trying to find that :) |
| 11:58.26 | *** join/#debian mechanicalduck (~mechanica@37-252-110-16.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 11:58.43 | *** join/#debian no_gravity (~user@p5DC6CAF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:58.57 | nabblet | moty66: somehow that amx site turend me off - if you can't see on the first sight what they do, it's sh*t :P |
| 11:59.03 | silence1 | Walex: I don't want to draw the attention with my questions. I hate repeating though... and repeating is often not appreciated by some. |
| 11:59.08 | silence1 | but here it comes again. |
| 11:59.14 | silence1 | Hi everyone. I've a file server which unsuspectedly has rebooted. I've checked up the /var/log/messages and I see the following: https://dpaste.de/Ekww2/ Can anyone explain why it did shutdown/reboot? Is it caused by rsync? Thanks in advance. What does this call trace: say? |
| 11:59.32 | moty66 | nabblet: they have a bug, try to delete cookies and access the site with www =) |
| 11:59.35 | nabblet | silence1: please don'r repeat |
| 11:59.37 | moty66 | nabblet: heheheheh |
| 11:59.38 | nabblet | silence1: ;P |
| 11:59.46 | silence1 | lol. See I was expecting this :> |
| 11:59.57 | nabblet | silence1: sorry, could not resist :D |
| 12:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1281] by debhelper |
| 12:00.01 | Walex | silence1: repeating is essential because most people see stuff scroll away. The key is to repeat not often, at most 10-15 minutes. |
| 12:00.09 | no_gravity | Good Morning from Germany! When you want "find . -wholename */something" to match x/something but not x/y/something - what would you guys do? |
| 12:00.11 | silence1 | nabblet: you could also say "Remain silent" :-p |
| 12:00.36 | nabblet | ;) |
| 12:00.53 | silence1 | no_gravity: maxdepth |
| 12:00.57 | nabblet | silence1: just join the channel and shut up like everyone else too |
| 12:01.06 | silence1 | nabblet: Agreed! :) |
| 12:01.09 | *** join/#debian hyppias (hyppias@5ED002C9.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 12:01.22 | *** join/#debian JotaK (~WTF@unaffiliated/jotak) |
| 12:01.23 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 12:01.23 | *** join/#debian hyppias (hyppias@5ED002C9.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 12:02.37 | no_gravity | silence1: that sounds good! |
| 12:03.07 | *** join/#debian harobed (~stephane-@sab57-2-82-236-241-203.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:03.21 | nabblet | moty66: so what's your task anyway? |
| 12:03.21 | Walex | silence1: it is a kernel bug with a crash during IO. But curiously there seem to be two crashed, one in 'io_schedule' and one in 'read_tsc', which are not very related. |
| 12:04.05 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-89-0-197-139.netcologne.de) |
| 12:04.10 | nabblet | silence1: 2 bug - when it hits you, it hits hard :P |
| 12:04.15 | nabblet | *bugs |
| 12:04.35 | silence1 | running 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 12:05.01 | silence1 | nabblet: yeah.. I think its pissed off by me. |
| 12:05.15 | Walex | silence1: could be some hw issue, like overheating memory or CPU, because it is unlikely that you hit 2 sw bugs one after another |
| 12:05.18 | moty66 | nabblet: what do you mean? do you want to know what I have to do with the logs? |
| 12:05.27 | silence1 | Walex: thanks. However I am not capable to fix such thing |
| 12:06.09 | Walex | silence1: if that is inside a virtualized environment could be one of many virtualization bugs. |
| 12:06.14 | silence1 | Walex: This is our back-up server so I hope it's not gonna die on me. :< |
| 12:06.38 | silence1 | Walex: no this is a physical machine. At least from 'dmidecode' :> |
| 12:06.48 | korn36 | is there a command which will remove all empty directories located in current directory? |
| 12:07.09 | silence1 | Product Name: ProLiant DL380 G7 |
| 12:07.10 | Walex | silence1: let's say I can't imagine any good bug or reason for which 'read_tsc' crashes. |
| 12:07.39 | Walex | korn36: yes depending on the exact definition |
| 12:07.48 | korn36 | Walex: what is that command? |
| 12:08.00 | silence1 | korn36: find . -type d -exec rmdir '{}' + |
| 12:08.10 | korn36 | won't it remove unempty ones? |
| 12:08.17 | Walex | silence1: that's not right. |
| 12:08.21 | silence1 | Walex: Thanks. I'm going to check the hardware then. It really scared me off |
| 12:08.33 | Walex | silence1: try 'sensors' |
| 12:08.41 | Walex | korn36: 'rmdir *' |
| 12:08.55 | ChrisH | korn36: rmdir * should only remove empty dirs |
| 12:09.05 | *** join/#debian jscott1989 (~jscott198@dab-ell1-h-43-10.dab.02.net) |
| 12:09.23 | *** join/#debian zmode (~zmode@unaffiliated/zmode) |
| 12:09.23 | Walex | korn36: but note that 'rmdir *' will not remove *some* empty directories. |
| 12:09.45 | korn36 | find -type d -exec rmdir '{}' \; worked for me |
| 12:10.01 | jelly | silence1: anything in iLO / IML logs? |
| 12:10.19 | Walex | 'find . -type d -links 2 -maxdepth 1 -print0 | xargs -r0 rmdir' |
| 12:10.47 | silence1 | jelly: hmm I think this machine is accommodated with iLO but not yet configured |
| 12:10.51 | nicoo | Walex: Why use xargs ? |
| 12:10.55 | Walex | korn36: the 'find' silence1 suggested will delete empty directories inside subdirectories. |
| 12:11.10 | *** join/#debian firecode (~irc@unaffiliated/firecode) |
| 12:11.23 | silence1 | jelly: where do I find these logs? |
| 12:11.26 | Walex | nicoo: it is a lot faster potentially. Also cleaner conceptually. |
| 12:11.27 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~trueneu@84.52.98.215) |
| 12:11.56 | jelly | silence1: well, easiest way to access them is the iLO web ui |
| 12:12.08 | ChrisH | nicoo: -exec has an ugly syntax |
| 12:12.16 | silence1 | jelly: hmm. Then I'll have to set up an ssh tunnel :< |
| 12:12.21 | nicoo | Walex: Than using -exec or -delete ? |
| 12:12.30 | Walex | nicoo: yes. |
| 12:12.34 | jelly | silence1: there are probably proliant tools to read them from linux as well, but I don't remember which one is for IML |
| 12:12.45 | jelly | !proliant |
| 12:12.45 | dpkg | HP ProLiant utilities for Debian 7.0 "Squeeze" systems are available, ask me about <proliant sources.list>. See also <bnx2>, <nc375i>, <netxen>. http://wiki.debian.org/HP/ProLiant http://hp.com/go/debian |
| 12:12.55 | jelly | huh, 7.0 "squeeze" |
| 12:13.11 | nicoo | bets against Walex (for -delete; -exec does lots of syscalls) |
| 12:13.17 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@client-86-29-56-56.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 12:13.21 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 12:13.37 | *** join/#debian Mikrop_ (~mikrop@office.bearstech.com) |
| 12:14.01 | silence1 | nicoo: anyways, -delete is only supported in GNUfind. So that's why I try to keep as POSIX as possible |
| 12:14.08 | Walex | nicoo: there are several non obvious locality effects... |
| 12:14.40 | no_gravity | silence1: problem is, im searching for "x/it" and want to find "a/x/it" and "b/x/it" but not "c/d/x/it". maxdepth does not work then. |
| 12:14.41 | silence1 | jelly: Allright. I'll go and investigate this issue. Walex thanks for your input. |
| 12:15.34 | Walex | no_gravity: 'find' with wholepath or 'find' + grep |
| 12:17.16 | ChrisH | I just installed virtualbix, but virtualbox failed to start with: "No suitable module for running kernel found". I am pretty sure it did compile something and I also remember I had this before. What is the trick to force kernel module recompile? |
| 12:17.32 | *** join/#debian morsicus (~morsicus@adsl2.wanadev.org) |
| 12:17.34 | *** join/#debian Nexen (~Nexen@AClermont-Ferrand-753-1-14-21.w90-27.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:17.45 | silence1 | no_gravity: then -prune is your friend |
| 12:17.47 | Walex | ChrisH: 'man dkms' usually |
| 12:17.50 | *** join/#debian kriger (~norge@71-90-14-51.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) |
| 12:18.23 | t3oss | Walex, thanks |
| 12:18.41 | t3oss | walke I think IETF works on http not w3c |
| 12:19.14 | ChrisH | dkms status shows 2 virtualbox modules. |
| 12:20.08 | ChrisH | ah... it did build for the wrong kernel... |
| 12:21.50 | *** join/#debian user1_ (~user1@ip-1-157.gemini.net.pl) |
| 12:22.53 | *** join/#debian jscott1989 (~jscott198@dab-ell1-h-43-3.dab.02.net) |
| 12:23.10 | silence1 | no_gravity: find . -wholename "*/something" ! -wholename "*/y/something" |
| 12:23.20 | *** join/#debian okao (~ookura@vc056.net042125152.thn.ne.jp) |
| 12:23.37 | silence1 | So you exclude. You might add -type for a faster search.. but that's up to you |
| 12:23.51 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@81-230-126-193-no160.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 12:23.52 | *** join/#debian xpd259 (~Icedove@90.216.163.160) |
| 12:25.09 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 12:25.16 | no_gravity | silence1: its not only */y/something but everything deeper then */someghing. But i found a solution with ????????/something now. Because I know the number of chars in the subdirs, this works. |
| 12:25.21 | no_gravity | silence1: thanks for your help! |
| 12:26.45 | *** join/#debian cyberjot (~cyber@41.215.162.13) |
| 12:26.47 | *** join/#debian moty66 (~chatzilla@host86-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com) |
| 12:28.03 | *** join/#debian Pullphinger (~Pullphing@173-167-162-245-illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 12:28.45 | *** join/#debian drixter (~drixter@fido.e-utp.net) |
| 12:29.34 | user1_ | Hi, is ispcofig setup and configuration on debian compilcated? Has anyone does this before and want to share? |
| 12:30.50 | *** join/#debian moty66__ (~chatzilla@host202-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com) |
| 12:31.07 | *** join/#debian scampbell (~scampbell@mail.scampbell.net) |
| 12:32.10 | *** join/#debian ulmer (~gnulix@89.204.155.80) |
| 12:32.13 | *** join/#debian dimaursu16 (~dimon@188.138.247.122) |
| 12:33.47 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@183.17.183.118) |
| 12:34.10 | arafangion | How do I change screen so that it starts zsh instead of bash? |
| 12:34.47 | *** join/#debian moty66 (~chatzilla@host202-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com) |
| 12:35.09 | arafangion | Also, I notice that zsh completions for git are *vastly* faster in debian than in mac os x. |
| 12:35.11 | *** join/#debian dep_ (~marcus@c253-148-70-80.bjare.net) |
| 12:35.23 | user1_ | ispconfig I mean :) |
| 12:36.24 | jelly | arafangion: changing your login screen to zsh if you use it should be enough |
| 12:36.29 | jelly | login shell* |
| 12:36.47 | arafangion | jelly: I've done that with chsh. Do I have to log out first and start a new screen? |
| 12:36.53 | jelly | yes |
| 12:37.21 | *** join/#debian uuni (~Jellyfish@c-69-136-41-212.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 12:37.32 | katla | can i get more keyboard models in my Settings/Keyboard/Layout/Keyboard model menu? |
| 12:37.36 | *** join/#debian moty66__ (~chatzilla@host210-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com) |
| 12:38.03 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 12:38.35 | arafangion | jelly: Ok, that explains it. :) Thanks. |
| 12:38.50 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@213.108.36.50) |
| 12:39.08 | *** join/#debian confrey (~dario@adsl-ull-207-184.51-151.net24.it) |
| 12:39.09 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~shiva@gateway/tor-sasl/lordshiva) |
| 12:40.40 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 12:41.14 | *** join/#debian l4sh (~l4sh@unaffiliated/l4sh) |
| 12:41.29 | *** join/#debian Sambler (~OKASO@unaffiliated/sambler) |
| 12:42.08 | *** join/#debian KidCartouche (~jbanier@ip-83-134-174-15.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 12:42.24 | *** part/#debian desti_T2 (~desti@dslb-092-073-152-216.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:43.27 | *** join/#debian gratcy (~quassel@61.247.52.138) |
| 12:45.03 | *** join/#debian cabaire (~nobody@gateway05.m3-connect.de) |
| 12:45.26 | jelly | (well, I was just guessing, but it's not unreasonable to assume screen only read the login shell on starting a session) |
| 12:45.28 | *** join/#debian bitwave (~bitwave@97.67.160.82) |
| 12:47.10 | *** join/#debian shamrock (~user@dslb-188-108-232-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:47.28 | *** join/#debian dep_ (~marcus@c253-148-70-80.bjare.net) |
| 12:48.04 | milo64 | is the "markdown" package in the repo same as Daring Fireball's Markdown? |
| 12:48.09 | milo64 | .zip |
| 12:49.10 | achadwick | milo64: see http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/markdown under "Homepage" |
| 12:49.17 | *** join/#debian weezie (~user@dslb-188-108-232-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:49.19 | babilen | milo64: Take a look at "apt-cache show markdown" and try to figure it out yourself ;) |
| 12:49.53 | *** join/#debian pestilence (~pestilenc@unaffiliated/pestilence) |
| 12:50.08 | milo64 | 777well |
| 12:50.11 | milo64 | oops |
| 12:50.23 | milo64 | where did the "777" come from... nvm, it looks like the one. thanks |
| 12:50.37 | babilen | milo64: Please also take a look at libtext-multimarkdown-perl -- I am not sure how well maintained the "original" markdown is maintained these days. |
| 12:50.51 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@88.216.5.200) |
| 12:50.52 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@netlinux/founder/e1z0) |
| 12:50.58 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@dslb-188-108-232-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:51.00 | pestilence | i have wheezy, using gnome shell, and my "power off" button has gone missing |
| 12:51.04 | pestilence | how do I get it back? |
| 12:51.11 | milo64 | pestilence: uh |
| 12:51.17 | pestilence | the only way to reboot/shutdown is from the command line. |
| 12:51.21 | milo64 | pestilence: GNOME shell people like it that way |
| 12:51.30 | milo64 | pestilence: they removed it from their menu |
| 12:51.36 | pestilence | seriously? how do they expect you to shutdown? |
| 12:51.37 | milo64 | i'm going to google a solution for you |
| 12:51.45 | pestilence | wow, that is totally not the answer i expected. |
| 12:52.08 | babilen | pestilence: IIRC you log out and shutdown from within GDM3 -- I also seem to recall that there are various Gnome shell extensions that get you a similar menu within Gnome. |
| 12:52.10 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~shiva@gateway/tor-sasl/lordshiva) |
| 12:52.16 | pestilence | i thought maybe it got lost somewhere in the upgrade process, |
| 12:52.36 | *** join/#debian bogard (~bogard@galia.zib.de) |
| 12:52.40 | babilen | pestilence: Take a look at https://extensions.gnome.org/ |
| 12:52.42 | milo64 | pestilence: i remembered that i think you need to press some key and then click on the menu... But, a good quality helper will check |
| 12:53.06 | milo64 | pestilence: yes, hold down the "Alt" key while in the menu and it should show |
| 12:53.17 | pestilence | milo64: thanks! |
| 12:53.27 | milo64 | no problem |
| 12:53.34 | pestilence | i want to know who's hairbrained idea it was to do that! |
| 12:53.47 | pestilence | how would anybody expain to their grandmother how to shutdown their computer |
| 12:53.51 | *** join/#debian guampa (~guampa@gateway/tor-sasl/guampa) |
| 12:53.54 | milo64 | you should use XFCE instead. |
| 12:53.57 | pestilence | haha |
| 12:53.59 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@46.20.244.44) |
| 12:53.59 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@fsf/member/polto) |
| 12:54.00 | *** join/#debian calvinx_ (~calvinx@103.11.49.125) |
| 12:54.13 | babilen | and totally wrong |
| 12:54.22 | milo64 | babilen: what's wrong? |
| 12:54.33 | *** join/#debian HALEB0B (~HALEB0B@unaffiliated/haleb0b) |
| 12:54.39 | *** join/#debian dep_ (~marcus@c253-148-70-80.bjare.net) |
| 12:54.41 | arafangion | The original 'markdown' is very simplistic. |
| 12:54.46 | abrotman | pestilence: alternately .. install the extension to show them allt he time |
| 12:54.49 | abrotman | all the |
| 12:55.05 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~emonge@200.110.251.210) |
| 12:55.06 | abrotman | which was said above |
| 12:55.13 | babilen | milo64: In case it wasn't clear ... the last markdown release was in 2004 and I would really recommend using a different implementation. |
| 12:55.43 | pestilence | abrotman: that's fine, but I'm hoping you can see what a usability headache this is. |
| 12:55.53 | milo64 | babilen: *sigh* |
| 12:55.56 | milo64 | okay |
| 12:56.01 | milo64 | i'll look in 2 it |
| 12:56.02 | pestilence | literally everyone expects a shutdown option in the menus, someplace. |
| 12:56.28 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~shiva@gateway/tor-sasl/lordshiva) |
| 12:56.41 | babilen | pestilence: Then enable it and yay! |
| 12:56.41 | jelly | heh, I haven't shut down the machine in months, it's either suspend or reboot |
| 12:56.48 | babilen | +1 |
| 12:56.49 | abrotman | pestilence: i can .. it's not hard to fix |
| 12:57.00 | pestilence | and prior to the release of wheezy, it was in the default configuration. |
| 12:57.04 | arafangion | That reminds me, I want to change the power button to power off instead of standby. |
| 12:57.06 | abrotman | in gnome2 ... |
| 12:57.15 | jdoles | What does this netstat -anp output mean and in particular why does it show - as the program name? 0 192.168.1.101:37704 192.168.1.1:445 ESTABLISHED - |
| 12:57.34 | *** join/#debian sinesis (~loic@77.104.11.42) |
| 12:57.50 | *** join/#debian irfaN (~irfaN@91.72.118.52) |
| 12:57.51 | *** join/#debian irfaN (~irfaN@unaffiliated/irfan) |
| 12:57.56 | pestilence | arafangion: I believe you want to look in /etc/acpi/events |
| 12:58.06 | milo64 | babilen: uh... libtext-... is a lib. |
| 12:58.07 | arafangion | That would make sense, will check that out. |
| 12:58.37 | jelly | jdoles: when run as normal user, lsof will only show process info for that user and the rest will be like that |
| 12:58.48 | jdoles | jelly: it runs as root. |
| 12:59.07 | jdoles | jelly: and I was talking about netstat. |
| 12:59.09 | jelly | jdoles: same goes for netstat |
| 12:59.09 | *** join/#debian Jdbye|Laptop (~jdbye@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 12:59.14 | pestilence | arafangion: looks like the script /etc/acpi/powerbtn-acpi-support.sh is what calls shutdown |
| 12:59.17 | jdoles | jelly: I was running it as root. |
| 12:59.33 | arafangion | pestilence: If allowed by the policy, it seems. |
| 12:59.47 | jdoles | jelly: the only thing I can think of is cifs. |
| 13:00.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1289] by debhelper |
| 13:00.09 | babilen | milo64: Just spend a little longer on investigating it |
| 13:00.23 | jdoles | jelly: isn't there something to statically define what connections are allowed and which ones are not such that the policy is overlayed with what is actually happening? |
| 13:00.24 | jelly | jdoles: also, services running as kernel helpers (nfs client, cifs client) will not have process info |
| 13:00.29 | *** join/#debian brong_ (~brong@2001:44b8:417f:f100:38c7:9e72:68c6:95cd) |
| 13:00.38 | pestilence | is off to test the newly discovered "power off" menu option |
| 13:00.53 | *** join/#debian troulouliou_dev (~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-dev/x-4757952) |
| 13:00.59 | jelly | jdoles: and tcp/445 is indeed used for smb / cifs |
| 13:01.07 | troulouliou_dev | hi how can i see if X is using the ati propietary driver ? |
| 13:01.22 | *** join/#debian fcodiaz (~fcodiaz@adsl-184-47-194-148.asm.bellsouth.net) |
| 13:01.26 | milo64 | sigh |
| 13:01.26 | babilen | troulouliou_dev: Check you /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 13:01.28 | milo64 | brb |
| 13:01.31 | milo64 | Quit |
| 13:01.42 | *** join/#debian voxadam (~voxadam@75-164-253-125.ptld.qwest.net) |
| 13:01.58 | jdoles | jelly: wouldn't it have been a better design if the kernel modules would also be treated as a special kind of process for such programs as netstat? |
| 13:02.05 | troulouliou_dev | babilen, ok used to tst with fglrxinfo, but it seems buggy now |
| 13:02.23 | korn36 | troulouliou_dev: if you ran aticonfig --initial and rebooted, it most likely is |
| 13:02.26 | *** join/#debian g0dfrey (~g0dfrey@117.79.232.184) |
| 13:02.44 | jdoles | How can you make sure that there is any meaningful control over network security? |
| 13:02.48 | *** join/#debian foka (~foka@113.252.188.80) |
| 13:02.49 | troulouliou_dev | korn36, yes did that, but fglrxinfo output : X Error of failed request: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) |
| 13:02.51 | jelly | jdoles: I don't think it's a question of design, but implementation |
| 13:03.02 | korn36 | troulouliou_dev: glxinfo? |
| 13:03.03 | babilen | troulouliou_dev: Check your Xorg logfile - but it should work if you followed the instructions on https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary -- If you want to you could paste your log file to http://paste.debian.net and tell us how you installed the driver. |
| 13:03.12 | *** join/#debian rrehbein (~rrehbein@12.148.198.170) |
| 13:03.13 | korn36 | glxinfo is in package mesa-utils i think |
| 13:03.14 | jelly | jdoles: there are lots of firewall helpers, but it boils down to setting up firewall (iptables) rules |
| 13:03.30 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~shiva@gateway/tor-sasl/lordshiva) |
| 13:03.32 | jdoles | jelly: yeah, but that doesn't really feel like an integrated approach. |
| 13:03.38 | troulouliou_dev | korn36, yes but fglrxinfo is from fglrxinfo-* |
| 13:03.41 | *** join/#debian JackH (~none@client-86-23-69-135.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 13:04.09 | babilen | troulouliou_dev: Run "glxinfo" and paste that along with your Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net and tell us how you installed and configured the driver. |
| 13:04.18 | jelly | jdoles: that's what the aforementioned helpers are about. Debian does not favor any particular firewall tool, as far as I know |
| 13:04.26 | troulouliou_dev | babilen, ok checking all this atm |
| 13:04.36 | korn36 | troulouliou_dev: yes but we want to check if your fglrx isn't damaged |
| 13:04.39 | korn36 | i had the same error |
| 13:04.44 | korn36 | and glxinfo wouldn't run too |
| 13:04.46 | troulouliou_dev | ok doing it now |
| 13:04.48 | jdoles | jelly: I have used some of those tools, but most of them weren't really being maintained and still required me to know about iptables in the end. |
| 13:05.12 | jdoles | jelly: is there anyone which you think is of good quality? |
| 13:05.13 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~shiva@gateway/tor-sasl/lordshiva) |
| 13:05.16 | jelly | jdoles: indeed. Go extend them to suit your needs, and you may gain other users liking what you do in the process. |
| 13:05.45 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 13:06.43 | jdoles | jelly: another thing which I would like to have is that if some files are opened in a particular order that the machine shuts down for example. |
| 13:06.45 | *** join/#debian cjsarette (~AndChat45@184.sub-70-196-194.myvzw.com) |
| 13:07.05 | *** join/#debian cjsarette (~AndChat45@184.sub-70-196-194.myvzw.com) |
| 13:07.35 | *** join/#debian cjsarette (~AndChat45@184.sub-70-196-194.myvzw.com) |
| 13:08.03 | *** join/#debian robinsmidsrod (~robin@apache.smidsrod.no) |
| 13:08.10 | jdoles | Tripwire is something which does things like that conceptually. |
| 13:08.27 | *** join/#debian mgariepy (mgariepy@ubuntu/member/mgariepy) |
| 13:08.33 | *** join/#debian cjsarette (~AndChat45@184.sub-70-196-194.myvzw.com) |
| 13:08.57 | *** join/#debian mywebcompute (~mywebcomp@61.150.43.96) |
| 13:09.00 | troulouliou_dev | babilen, korn36 : http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 13:09.13 | babilen | troulouliou_dev: That is not the complete URL ;) |
| 13:09.27 | *** join/#debian mand0_ (~mand0@pool-108-56-199-54.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:09.41 | troulouliou_dev | babilen, are right :Invalid format for name (no special chars, max 10 chars) |
| 13:09.43 | *** join/#debian jkamp (~josh@unixcorps/staff/quiet) |
| 13:09.47 | robinsmidsrod | I'm trying to figure out the easiest way to create a custom kernel+initrd that I can netboot, which contains a root filesystems with core stuff + my own binaries and startup scripts/services. What docs should I be looking at? |
| 13:10.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1296] by debhelper |
| 13:10.37 | robinsmidsrod | is emdebian.org the primary resource I should be looking at, or something else? |
| 13:10.44 | troulouliou_dev | babilen, korn36 : http://pastebin.com/d10c3UKB |
| 13:10.48 | *** join/#debian detha (~detha@196.41.3.190) |
| 13:10.50 | *** join/#debian blz37 (~minsa@c-24-130-180-195.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 13:11.25 | *** join/#debian hyppias (hyppias@5ED002C9.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 13:11.34 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@nl119-145-57.student.uu.se) |
| 13:11.37 | korn36 | troulouliou: run apt-get install mesa-utils && glxinfo |
| 13:11.41 | babilen | troulouliou_dev: "aticonfig --initial" is neither recommended nor needed, why do you think that was a good idea? How did you install the driver? |
| 13:12.03 | babilen | troulouliou_dev: And that is also not Debian - Please take it to the Kali channel. |
| 13:12.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell troulouliou_dev about kali linux |
| 13:12.57 | troulouliou_dev | babilen, it is the same at this level |
| 13:13.01 | troulouliou_dev | but ok |
| 13:13.12 | *** join/#debian cyberspace- (20253@ninthfloor.org) |
| 13:13.20 | *** join/#debian calisto (~calisto@r186-49-13-44.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 13:13.21 | *** join/#debian calisto (~calisto@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 13:13.33 | troulouliou_dev | seems lots of people have this issue btw : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=74610 |
| 13:13.42 | babilen | troulouliou_dev: We don't support Kali Linux for a number of technical *and* social reasons. Please respect that choice and ask in the channel of the distribution *you* chose. You are, naturally, free to run Debian and receive support here. |
| 13:14.08 | *** join/#debian LoCoZeNoz_ZUE (~LoCoZeNoz@APoitiers-651-1-222-85.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:14.09 | troulouliou_dev | babilen, ok no problem thanks |
| 13:14.59 | *** join/#debian caveat- (hoax@shell.bshellz.net) |
| 13:15.12 | *** join/#debian Jbdye|Laptop (~jdbye@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 13:15.12 | korn36 | troulouliou_dev: rm /etc/X11/Xorg.conf && rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && aticonfig --initial |
| 13:15.45 | *** join/#debian lduros (~user@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 13:18.13 | *** join/#debian cyberspace- (20253@109.74.194.224) |
| 13:18.41 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@amd.paranoids.at) |
| 13:18.50 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.187.199) |
| 13:18.56 | babilen | korn36: That is *also* not the right approach and didn't I just clarify that troulouliou_dev should seek support elsewhere. You are free to join #kali-linux yourself if you want to support users of that distribution, but please don't do it in here. |
| 13:19.26 | *** join/#debian minsa (minsa@c-24-130-180-195.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 13:19.41 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@dslb-188-108-232-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:21.44 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@nl119-145-57.student.uu.se) |
| 13:22.31 | *** join/#debian oliveiraev (~Evandro@177.141.170.231) |
| 13:22.37 | *** join/#debian tolecnal (tolecnal@buffalo.xiro.net) |
| 13:23.13 | *** join/#debian Clydelin (~clyde@140.224.114.137) |
| 13:26.10 | *** join/#debian sinesis (~loic@77.104.11.42) |
| 13:26.13 | *** join/#debian okao (~ookura@vc056.net042125152.thn.ne.jp) |
| 13:26.31 | silence1 | korn36: just out of curiousity. UNIX is case sensitive when it comes to file names or dir names. Why would rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf suffice? |
| 13:26.31 | *** join/#debian hyppias (hyppias@5ED002C9.cm-7-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 13:26.54 | silence1 | There cannot be 2 Xorg.conf or xorg.conf |
| 13:27.23 | korn36 | silence1: i don't remember how it was called |
| 13:28.08 | *** join/#debian moty66 (~chatzilla@host210-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com) |
| 13:28.19 | *** join/#debian core_saint (~core_sain@89-74-182-131.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 13:28.20 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@99-75-56-172.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 13:28.49 | silence1 | korn36: regardless the first letter, it will remove the file if there was one file only. In this case it will take case sensitivity in consideration IIRC. |
| 13:29.06 | *** join/#debian frew (~frew@li490-218.members.linode.com) |
| 13:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1303] by debhelper |
| 13:30.12 | frew | hey guys, I have a server that was on wheezy as testing and now I want to point it at wheezy proper, since that's stable now; can I just s/testing/wheezy/; apt-get upgrade and it just work? |
| 13:30.13 | silence1 | e.g touch /etc/X11/{x,X}org.conf will create only 1 file while touch /etc/X11/{x,Y}org.conf will create xorg.conf And Yorg.conf |
| 13:30.20 | frew | are there any issues I should be aware of? |
| 13:31.00 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 13:31.01 | *** part/#debian okao (~ookura@vc056.net042125152.thn.ne.jp) |
| 13:31.10 | *** join/#debian staropram (~staropram@unaffiliated/staropram) |
| 13:31.16 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~ydu@xbn44-2-82-225-226-138.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:31.18 | *** part/#debian core_saint (~core_sain@89-74-182-131.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 13:31.40 | korn36 | silence1: touch {a,A} created a and A |
| 13:31.42 | *** join/#debian Ticho_ (~Ticho@unaffiliated/ticho) |
| 13:31.43 | babilen | silence1: that's simply not the case |
| 13:32.04 | *** join/#debian LoCoZeNoz_ZUE (~LoCoZeNoz@APoitiers-651-1-222-85.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:32.16 | babilen | korn36: Sure, that is the correct and expected behaviour. |
| 13:33.11 | silence1 | korn36: than I found a bug :) |
| 13:35.00 | silence1 | joined a debian machine to Active directory using ''net ads join'' The home directory of this user is mounted on a samba share which is served by the Active Directory(w2k8r2 Windows server). So running touch {a,A} seems not to work. |
| 13:35.23 | *** join/#debian hsn (~majitel@205.83.broadband7.iol.cz) |
| 13:35.25 | silence1 | It will create a only but not both. |
| 13:35.40 | silence1 | Most probably a windows restriction. |
| 13:35.46 | *** join/#debian kyrix_ (~ashley@85-126-76-82.work.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 13:35.55 | *** part/#debian hsn (~majitel@205.83.broadband7.iol.cz) |
| 13:36.06 | korn36 | silence1: ActiveDirectory is a win32 application. NTFS by itself is case-sensitive, but win32 apps don't have case-sensitive access |
| 13:36.12 | *** join/#debian magikman (~magikman@cpe-098-122-152-168.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 13:36.23 | silence1 | but then well it will still be rm /etc/X11/{x,X}org.conf in this case |
| 13:36.34 | korn36 | silence1: right |
| 13:36.40 | korn36 | i'm a linux noob |
| 13:37.09 | silence1 | korn36: I was confused since I've bunch of terminals open and that one I did the test seemed to be the one authenticated by LDAP. |
| 13:37.16 | silence1 | meh, I'll quit the troll. |
| 13:37.48 | musca | !tell frew about sources |
| 13:37.49 | babilen | frew: That might not work anymore as you are, most likely, already running jessie (current testing) and not wheezy anymore. |
| 13:38.42 | babilen | frew: But that really depends on the when you upgraded packages last, but I would deem it quite likely that you already have a bunch of packages from jessie installed. As we do not support downgrades you might have to reinstall wheezy if you want to run that. |
| 13:38.46 | frew | well I haven't done anything since installing really |
| 13:39.05 | frew | is there a way I can list what it would downgrade? |
| 13:39.21 | frew | I'm 90% sure I didn't get any jessie |
| 13:39.26 | babilen | frew: Could you paste your /var/log/apt/history.log to http://paste.debian.net ? Please also include your sources.list. |
| 13:39.39 | frew | yeah, sure, just a sec |
| 13:40.24 | *** part/#debian robinsmidsrod (~robin@apache.smidsrod.no) |
| 13:40.40 | *** part/#debian troulouliou_dev (~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-dev/x-4757952) |
| 13:41.37 | *** join/#debian kyrix (~ashley@85-126-76-82.work.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 13:41.42 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@icm-241-158.icm.uu.se) |
| 13:41.44 | *** join/#debian calbasi (~joan@226.28.14.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 13:42.21 | *** join/#debian dep_ (~marcus@c253-148-70-80.bjare.net) |
| 13:42.32 | frew | the history log has been rolled a couple times, should I put it all together? |
| 13:42.49 | frew | (the current log is entirely blank) |
| 13:44.11 | frew | ah, they are all pretty short |
| 13:44.13 | frew | sec |
| 13:44.47 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@pool-96-233-32-122.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:45.57 | babilen | frew: I just want to get an idea when you upgraded last. Another approach would be to use a sources.list that includes the typicaly entries for wheezy (cf. http://paste.debian.net/21537/ ) and testing. That would allow us to list all packages by repository ... |
| 13:45.59 | *** join/#debian xpd259 (~Icedove@176.253.70.214) |
| 13:46.06 | babilen | dpkg: tell frew -about which repo |
| 13:47.21 | *** join/#debian mechanicalduck (~mechanica@37-252-110-16.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 13:48.42 | frew | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/21538/ |
| 13:50.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1296] by debhelper |
| 13:50.24 | frew | so really, the last majorish install to me looks to be may 4th, and even that was minimal |
| 13:50.36 | frew | or minimal compared to everything |
| 13:50.40 | frew | I think it was just security |
| 13:50.42 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@174.32.161.73) |
| 13:52.31 | frew | the fact that I had unstable in there makes me worry that this may not work at all |
| 13:52.46 | *** join/#debian ideea (~textual@195.122.3.68) |
| 13:54.17 | babilen | frew: Well, you have *some* packages from testing/jessie installed at least. What does "dpkg -l libc6 apt dpkg" give you? |
| 13:54.26 | *** join/#debian bitwave (~bitwave@outlook.intellisystems.com) |
| 13:54.59 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 13:55.01 | babilen | frew: Or just add sources for testing again, run "apt-get update" and then the one-liner in the <which repo> factoid the bot send you and paste that output. (or both) |
| 13:55.21 | frew | http://paste.debian.net/21540/ |
| 13:56.03 | *** join/#debian mywebcompute (~mywebcomp@61.150.43.96) |
| 13:56.11 | *** join/#debian Katafalk_ (~Katafalka@88-119-150-24.static.zebra.lt) |
| 13:56.58 | *** join/#debian natoka (~mmoerz@178.115.251.87.wireless.dyn.drei.com) |
| 13:57.19 | *** join/#debian soomsoom (~soomsoom@unaffiliated/soomsoom) |
| 13:57.36 | frew | ok, I will do that I think then |
| 13:57.37 | *** join/#debian th0r (~Thor@24-106-210-67.bhisland.com) |
| 13:57.39 | frew | thanks babilen |
| 13:57.45 | *** part/#debian wdouglass (~user@70-90-222-153-pittsburgh.pa.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 13:57.45 | natoka | hi, i'd like to build a multiarch .deb is there any docu out there that describes how to do that on amd64? |
| 13:57.53 | babilen | frew: Okay, it doesn't look *too* bad right now. You might want to consider using the sources.list I pasted above and run a dist upgrade. That will upgrade most packages that are older than the one currently in wheezy to the version in wheezy. |
| 13:57.56 | frew | one day I'll be good at servers :) |
| 13:58.16 | frew | oh ok |
| 13:58.37 | frew | so just change my sources list and do dist-upgrade, instead of doing the oneliner |
| 13:59.22 | babilen | frew: That will, however, still leave you with *some* packages from jessie/testing and you will either have to remove them (easiest option) or downgrade them. The latter is not supported, but you can force a downgrade by pinning wheezy to a priority >= 1001 and running "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 13:59.28 | *** join/#debian Daleus (~admindale@212.36.108.75) |
| 13:59.52 | frew | I'll remove them if I can find them |
| 13:59.55 | babilen | frew: The output of the one-liner (with testing in your sources.list) is still of interest. I'm simply sketching ideas on how to continue from here. |
| 14:00.14 | *** join/#debian deathleff (~duke@ip-178-203-166-37.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 14:00.22 | *** join/#debian Invader (~Invader@rrcs-24-123-93-18.central.biz.rr.com) |
| 14:00.37 | frew | yeah; sorry that I am not totally informed here; I can't really reason about these different options since I'm not really a pro at this |
| 14:00.40 | *** join/#debian Invader (~Invader@unaffiliated/invader) |
| 14:00.51 | *** join/#debian k1ng (~k1ng@unaffiliated/k1ng) |
| 14:01.57 | *** join/#debian acu_ (~acu@24-159-215-150.static.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 14:02.06 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@194.214.63.254) |
| 14:02.07 | *** join/#debian SKyrter (~SKyrter@117-191.198-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 14:02.15 | babilen | frew: That will, however, still leave you with *some* packages from jessie/testing and you will either have to remove them (easiest option) or downgrade them. The latter is not supported, but you can force a downgrade by pinning wheezy to a priority >= 1001 and running "apt-get dist-upgrade" (cf. https://paste.debian.net/21554/ for a suitable /etc/apt/preferences) |
| 14:04.43 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e}| (~kvirc@178.123.138.142) |
| 14:04.53 | *** join/#debian internat (~nf@60-241-102-25.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 14:04.59 | *** join/#debian fikst (~fikst@d54C442D5.access.telenet.be) |
| 14:09.49 | *** join/#debian x-treme (~x-treme@unaffiliated/x-treme) |
| 14:09.52 | *** join/#debian |DM| (~Wewt|Mang@unaffiliated/cocomango) |
| 14:10.06 | *** join/#debian foka (~foka@113.252.188.80) |
| 14:10.56 | *** join/#debian \\Mr_C\\ (mrc@adsl-98-89-6-191.mgm.bellsouth.net) |
| 14:11.01 | *** join/#debian mastro (~mastro@host161-73-dynamic.2-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 14:11.11 | *** join/#debian desert_ (~desert@200.29.0.66) |
| 14:11.24 | frew | ok, I'll do that later; I'm upgrading a server from 6.0 to 7.0 now that matters more than my personal linode :) |
| 14:11.54 | desert_ | hello how are you |
| 14:11.56 | babilen | frew: Make sure to follow the upgrade guide in the release notes! |
| 14:12.01 | frew | yeah, I have been |
| 14:12.04 | babilen | dpkg: tell frew about squeeze->wheezy |
| 14:12.13 | frew | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#system-status |
| 14:12.15 | babilen | frew: wonderful, let us know if you have any questions |
| 14:12.15 | frew | that's where I'm at |
| 14:12.19 | *** join/#debian AsumFace (~asumface@31-17-32-113-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 14:13.08 | frew | removes mingw64: Will free 223 MB of disk space |
| 14:13.10 | frew | awesome |
| 14:14.01 | *** join/#debian mywebcompute (~mywebcomp@61.150.43.96) |
| 14:14.28 | FilipeMaia | Is it possible to add a disk to an mdadm array and clear its faulty flag without a stop and assemble? |
| 14:15.03 | *** join/#debian VsioZashibis (~VsioZashi@li469-37.members.linode.com) |
| 14:15.05 | *** join/#debian no-thing (~no-thing@ip1.c2834.amb98.cust.comxnet.dk) |
| 14:15.23 | *** join/#debian sh00p (~sh00p@static-213-115-27-219.sme.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 14:15.46 | sh00p | where in the filesystem does a vanilla debian system usually perform a bunch of writes? (/tmp, /var/ru |
| 14:16.02 | sh00p | (/tmp, /var/run, /var/log, var/lock) |
| 14:16.06 | sh00p | i've figured out myself |
| 14:16.43 | sh00p | planning to put them on tmpfs for a CF card install with / mounted ro |
| 14:19.28 | silence1 | can someone help me with the following: I've a debian machine which authenticateds through winbind/nss. When I login with the user it should automatically mount the home folder on a central storage but this does not happen. Mounting this folder is done by pam_mount.conf.xml. If I log in using SSH I then have to do again su - username provide password then again provide password when it says: pam_mount(pam_mount.c:553): pam_mount 2.5: entering session s |
| 14:20.26 | silence1 | How would I take care of this so it mounts the home folder for the user directly after login using pam_mount.conf.xml |
| 14:20.32 | *** join/#debian mike_af (~mike_af@50-77-49-46-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 14:20.51 | *** join/#debian welch (~welch@38.101.106.162) |
| 14:23.22 | *** join/#debian Interruptus (~Interrupt@93-172-21-39.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 14:24.23 | *** join/#debian mywebcompute (~mywebcomp@61.150.43.96) |
| 14:24.26 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 14:25.13 | *** join/#debian mernilio (~chatzilla@c193-150-231-166.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 14:26.11 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~jan@d51A48B68.access.telenet.be) |
| 14:26.42 | *** join/#debian zz_sidv (sidv@us.yunix.net) |
| 14:26.46 | *** join/#debian smica_ (~smica@adsl-187-250.globonet.hu) |
| 14:27.00 | *** join/#debian ksinny (~quassel@kde/developer/sinnykumari) |
| 14:29.15 | *** part/#debian Daleus (~admindale@212.36.108.75) |
| 14:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1290] by debhelper |
| 14:31.00 | silence1 | well that's fixed too :) |
| 14:31.18 | silence1 | I had mixed the order in /etc/pam.d/common-auth |
| 14:31.29 | silence1 | auth required pam_mount.so |
| 14:33.00 | *** join/#debian Invader (~Invader@rrcs-24-123-93-18.central.biz.rr.com) |
| 14:35.26 | *** join/#debian fcodiaz (~fcodiaz@208.71.232.130) |
| 14:36.52 | Walex | silence1: in 'auth'? Perhaps it ought to be in 'session' |
| 14:37.07 | *** join/#debian johnfg_ (johnfg@host-184-166-136-254.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net) |
| 14:37.08 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~bitcount@81.61.208.23.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 14:37.10 | silence1 | Walex: thats a good one. I changed in both to be sure. |
| 14:37.11 | johnfg_ | hi guys |
| 14:37.50 | johnfg_ | Anywhere I can find libgtkembedmoz.so for wheezy? |
| 14:38.00 | silence1 | Thanks for the pointer. It was confusing though. I had to log in then again su - username which asked me for my password and then again asking for pam_mount passwd. |
| 14:38.01 | johnfg_ | I've not found it so far. |
| 14:38.19 | *** join/#debian xgoo (~xgoo@114.79.19.251) |
| 14:38.27 | babilen | johnfg_: That file is not in wheezy |
| 14:38.48 | *** join/#debian carandraug (~carandrau@octave/developer/carandraug) |
| 14:39.05 | *** join/#debian tharkun (~0@unaffiliated/tharkun) |
| 14:39.07 | *** join/#debian johnfg (johnfg@host-184-166-136-254.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net) |
| 14:39.19 | babilen | (nor any later release, used to be part of kompozer and therefore gone) |
| 14:39.42 | babilen | judd: bug rm kompozer |
| 14:39.45 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/690251 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: kompozer -- ROM; dead upstream»; severity: normal; opened: 2012-10-11; last modified: 2012-11-09. |
| 14:39.53 | *** join/#debian m3g9tr0n (~magnum@ppp-94-64-114-136.home.otenet.gr) |
| 14:41.16 | *** join/#debian xpd259 (~Icedove@176.253.70.214) |
| 14:41.36 | *** join/#debian xpd259 (~Icedove@176.253.70.214) |
| 14:42.39 | *** join/#debian bitwave (~bitwave@outlook.intellisystems.com) |
| 14:43.35 | johnfg | babilen: Ok. It's needed for acoread for wheezy, for help to work. Just won't have the help feature I guess. |
| 14:44.28 | Daulity | how do i find out the mount type of a usb ? |
| 14:47.02 | *** join/#debian Invader (~Invader@unaffiliated/invader) |
| 14:47.57 | *** part/#debian HALEB0B (~HALEB0B@unaffiliated/haleb0b) |
| 14:48.20 | mumpitzel | Daulity: file -s /dev/partition or if it's already mounted: mount |
| 14:48.48 | scream_ | blkid also works fine |
| 14:49.18 | *** join/#debian is- (is@tb78-108-53-140.cust.teknikbyran.com) |
| 14:49.28 | *** join/#debian dirtydawg (dirtydawg@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-bhmxyimkhkgvqchf) |
| 14:49.52 | *** join/#debian tacos1de (~tacos1de@gateway/tor-sasl/tacos1de) |
| 14:50.04 | redintellect | how do I get a shell script to work at startup in deb? |
| 14:50.29 | nkuttler | redintellect: see /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 14:50.32 | Daulity | mumpitzel: the problem was that i couldn't mount it, but i already figured it out thanks! :) |
| 14:50.35 | somiaj | redintellect: what kinda of shell script? |
| 14:51.05 | redintellect | nkuttler, thanks |
| 14:51.08 | somiaj | redintellect: look up LSB init scripts, but you create a script in /etc/init.d with LSB headers and then use update-rc.d to include it in the startup scripts (formal method) |
| 14:51.34 | redintellect | somiaj, I want to run these three commands at startup: |
| 14:51.35 | somiaj | redintellect: if this is just a local machine you don't care to much about being proper, look at /etc/rc.local |
| 14:51.37 | mumpitzel | !rc.local |
| 14:51.37 | dpkg | /etc/rc.local is a script called by /etc/init.d/rc.local which is typically one of the last things to be run during the boot sequence. If you have commands you want run at boot, edit /etc/rc.local (don't touch /etc/init.d/rc.local). rc.local is regarded as a hack, consider writing a real init script instead, ask me about <init.d>. |
| 14:52.22 | *** join/#debian geggam (~geggam@108-218-203-177.uvs.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:52.24 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@anon-52-31.vpn.ipredator.se) |
| 14:52.25 | somiaj | redintellect: you can just add the commands to the /etc/rc.local script (simpliest way, but depending on what you want to do a more proper init.d script is suggested but not needed) |
| 14:52.34 | jkamp | Interesting, since the FAQ says Debian doesn't use rc.local |
| 14:52.35 | redintellect | somiaj, modprobe lib80211 modprobe cfg80211 insmode /-/-/wl.ko |
| 14:52.46 | jkamp | 11.6 - http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-customizing.en.html |
| 14:53.18 | *** join/#debian oneifreak (~oneifreak@h69-31-239-92.static.platinum.ca) |
| 14:53.27 | somiaj | redintellect: oh you need to load modules, I am a bit fuzzy on the insmode you want to run, but module names added to /etc/modules will be modprobed during the boot |
| 14:53.35 | somiaj | redintellect: so you don't need an extra script for at least the modprobe parts. |
| 14:53.36 | etherape | does someone know how i can find the start timestamp of a process? |
| 14:53.49 | etherape | ps does not provide the wanted time format |
| 14:53.51 | *** join/#debian teoss (~t3oss@77.28.16.5) |
| 14:54.15 | somiaj | etherape: it dosen't (even if you use the correct flags)? Doesn't it tell you the lenght of time the process was running? |
| 14:54.24 | *** join/#debian Modeuse (~Modeuse@p4FF97FF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:54.32 | somiaj | etherape: it might be you need a log of some sort and the processes will have to put its timestamp in a log for that to work |
| 14:54.44 | *** part/#debian oneifreak (~oneifreak@h69-31-239-92.static.platinum.ca) |
| 14:54.51 | *** join/#debian TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@yes.tenlab.net) |
| 14:55.05 | mullein | etherape, maybe you could get it from the directory timestamp of /proc/$pid ? |
| 14:55.08 | etherape | but shouldn't a clean timestamp be somewhere in /proc<pid> ? |
| 14:56.01 | etherape | i could not find it proc at least, google did not gave me a clear answer |
| 14:57.20 | etherape | maybe i should put it like this, what is the most clean (acceptable) way to check the start time of a process? |
| 14:57.53 | *** join/#debian zz_sidv (sidv@us.yunix.net) |
| 14:57.53 | *** join/#debian teeteewhy (~teeteewhy@no.ra.pe) |
| 14:57.58 | *** join/#debian phuzion (~phuzion@ipv6.irc.teh-server.com) |
| 14:58.35 | *** join/#debian Joschii (~joschii@82.113.98.238) |
| 14:59.21 | *** join/#debian dirtydawg (dirtydawg@unaffiliated/dirtydawg) |
| 14:59.21 | *** join/#debian dirtydawg (dirtydawg@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-bhmxyimkhkgvqchf) |
| 14:59.29 | *** join/#debian sferry (~samuel@192.119.225.50) |
| 14:59.29 | *** join/#debian sferry (~samuel@atheme/member/samferry) |
| 15:00.19 | *** join/#debian teoss (~t3oss@unaffiliated/t3oss) |
| 15:00.24 | etherape | logging the timestamp in a file or db table is ugly.. |
| 15:00.32 | mullein | etherape, this page suggests two methods, one of which was the directory timestamp of /proc/$pid, the other being to pass in -o etime to ps and calculate the difference: http://linuxcommando.blogspot.com/2008/09/how-to-get-process-start-date-and-time.html |
| 15:01.00 | mullein | i think the timestamp on the process /proc directory is probably the cleanest |
| 15:01.22 | *** join/#debian akashj87 (~akash@59.180.153.17) |
| 15:01.34 | *** join/#debian jscott1989 (~jscott198@dab-ell1-h-1-8.dab.02.net) |
| 15:02.45 | etherape | i agree, if you look at ps like your link suggestet you have <month><day> or <hour>:<minute> for sys administration it's quite okay, but it's horrible to us in scripts |
| 15:02.58 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 15:03.28 | somiaj | etherape: ps faux gives me the start date and time of all my processes |
| 15:03.34 | *** join/#debian kunwon1 (~kunwon1@unaffiliated/kunwon1) |
| 15:03.42 | *** join/#debian cali (~cali@unaffiliated/cali) |
| 15:04.02 | somiaj | etherape: you may have to look at the ps code, my guess is ps converts it from a timestamp into a human readable form, maybe looking into the inner workins of ps would help |
| 15:04.42 | mullein | somiaj, ps faux doesn't give more than start date for processes older than a day, afaict |
| 15:04.42 | etherape | i think the answer is much simpler, just check the ctime of /proc/pid as directory |
| 15:04.44 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~0bitcount@81.61.208.23.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 15:05.00 | nabblet | how secure is an encrypted zip? |
| 15:05.20 | etherape | nabblet: depends on the encryption and the quality of your password |
| 15:05.52 | karlpinc | nabblet: Yup, as secure as encrypted zip users need. Try using openssl to encrypt the zip if you want to be serious. |
| 15:05.56 | somiaj | mullein: oh yea, TIME may not be the time it started. haha |
| 15:06.11 | *** join/#debian |oop (~pool@c-68-81-109-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 15:06.31 | nabblet | etherape: karlpinc ok |
| 15:06.47 | nabblet | etherape: karlpinc btw, putting a password on a zip is not encryption i guess |
| 15:07.00 | mullein | somiaj, correct, TIME is accumulated cpu time :) |
| 15:07.44 | somiaj | does 'cat /proc/pid/sched' give the desired info, I see a se.exec_start variable |
| 15:07.54 | somiaj | though it doesn't look like a time stamp |
| 15:08.05 | milo64 | how do i make sure apt-get purge removed everything as if the program weren't install. |
| 15:08.13 | milo64 | I hate this programm so much :( |
| 15:08.23 | milo64 | not apt-get... i love apt-get |
| 15:08.28 | etherape | indeed, i have seen the file but i can not make anything of the value |
| 15:08.30 | milo64 | i just wanna uninstall this program i hate |
| 15:08.33 | somiaj | milo64: why do you hate apt-get? If you said purge it removed everything including oh |
| 15:08.44 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@dslb-188-108-232-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:08.48 | somiaj | milo64: it should work, but 'dpkg -l' lists all the pacakages on your local machine |
| 15:08.52 | milo64 | somiaj: sorry, i don't know how to align the phrase. :P |
| 15:08.53 | jordanm | milo64: you can't really. apt only know about the files that it installed, not the files the program created itself at run-time after installation |
| 15:09.12 | somiaj | milo64: look for lines like 'ii' (installed correctly) or 'rc' (removed but config files still around) |
| 15:09.21 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~Tom@p579417E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:09.42 | babilen | milo64: out of curiosity: which program/package is it? |
| 15:09.45 | karlpinc | milo64: And it won't delete config files you've created. And I'm always confused about what packages wind up installed as a result of 'recommends' and just how to remove those. |
| 15:10.03 | milo64 | schism |
| 15:10.08 | milo64 | complicated |
| 15:10.16 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@212.73.197.99) |
| 15:10.27 | *** join/#debian zz_sidv (sidv@us.yunix.net) |
| 15:10.32 | *** join/#debian ctmjr (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 15:10.33 | *** join/#debian ctmjr (~chuck@pdpc/supporter/active/ctmjr) |
| 15:10.36 | somiaj | well auto installed packages (Such as recomends) should be removed with 'apt-get autoremove' ran after you remove the main program. |
| 15:10.47 | milo64 | thx |
| 15:10.53 | *** join/#debian _zerick_ (~eocrospom@190.187.21.53) |
| 15:11.18 | *** join/#debian verysoftoiletppr (~verysofto@unaffiliated/softtoiletpaper) |
| 15:11.22 | karlpinc | somiaj: Does aptitude do that by itself on purge or is apt-get required? |
| 15:11.23 | *** join/#debian zerick (~eocrospom@190.187.21.53) |
| 15:11.25 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@p579417E9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:11.25 | somiaj | if you want to dig into it deeper you can use apt-cache search and do dependence (And reverse depends) searches on pacakges to see what is there. You can also use deborphan to see if you have any orphaned packages still installed |
| 15:11.37 | nabblet | etherape: karlpinc is using truecrypt ok too? i need someting OS independed |
| 15:11.39 | somiaj | karlpinc: aptitude does it by default, apt-get requires you run an additional autoremove command |
| 15:11.48 | *** join/#debian Posterdati (~antani@host103-221-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 15:11.58 | karlpinc | somiaj: Thanks. |
| 15:12.00 | *** join/#debian kni (~rat@host86-158-3-87.range86-158.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:12.10 | *** join/#debian caravel (~caravel@83.230.147.44) |
| 15:12.17 | babilen | yeah, and a "apt-get --purge autoremove" is the natural companion to an "apt-get purge $PKG" |
| 15:12.43 | karlpinc | nabblet: I don't know truecrypt. openssl is os independent, it's just that you can't get non un*x users to use it. :) |
| 15:12.54 | kni | hi, I'm having a complete nightmare with package management, I have a ton of unmet dependencies, but apt-get -f install is failing |
| 15:13.23 | somiaj | kni: my guess is you are mixing sources wich will do that |
| 15:13.36 | somiaj | kni: want to start out by sharing your /etc/apt/sources.list file and the output of 'apt-cache policy' |
| 15:14.38 | *** join/#debian firecooler (~info@p54B4E9AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:15.08 | *** join/#debian jscott1989 (~jscott198@dab-ell1-h-43-6.dab.02.net) |
| 15:15.26 | kni | http://pastie.org/pastes/8196975/text |
| 15:15.47 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.226.49) |
| 15:16.25 | somiaj | yea mixing two different debian based distributions can lead to such problems |
| 15:16.25 | etherape | nabblet: i think pgp/gpg is a pretty good choice |
| 15:16.34 | jargon | kni: u're using crunchbang? |
| 15:16.41 | kni | yeah |
| 15:16.43 | somiaj | you are mixing crunchbang and debian and I am not even sure what your main os is. No wonder you are having troubles |
| 15:17.01 | somiaj | kni: first if you are running crucnhbang remove your debian sources. Second we do not support crunchbang here |
| 15:17.03 | *** join/#debian WormFood (~wormfood@183.37.245.234) |
| 15:17.04 | somiaj | !crunchbang |
| 15:17.05 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
| 15:17.08 | jargon | kni why are u mixing 32 and 64bit? |
| 15:17.26 | somiaj | jargon: that is standard with a multiarch setup |
| 15:17.26 | jargon | kni: have u tried asking in #crunchbang? |
| 15:17.30 | babilen | dpkg: u |
| 15:17.31 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 15:17.39 | jargon | somiaj: i see |
| 15:17.44 | kni | surely this is an apt thing, not crunchbang |
| 15:17.45 | nabblet | karlpinc: etherape hm. my cenario: lot's of text files that will be worked at by about 10 persons on dropbox |
| 15:17.46 | jargon | good thing i'm using gentoo |
| 15:17.49 | somiaj | jargon: wheezy onwards requires you do that (As opposed to the older ia32-libs mess) |
| 15:17.58 | jargon | kni: good luck convincing them of that |
| 15:18.07 | *** join/#debian dimaursu16 (~dimon@188.138.247.122) |
| 15:18.10 | jargon | just come over to us in #crunchbang. let's see if we can help |
| 15:18.20 | kni | i've removed the crunchbang repos, it still fails |
| 15:18.21 | jargon | i used cb up until 2 weeks ago |
| 15:18.24 | babilen | kni: We only support pure Debian in here for a number of technical and social reasons. Please take it to the crunchbang channel as your setup is not supported. Thanks for your understanding. |
| 15:18.25 | nabblet | karlpinc: etherape currently they are unencrypted but i want to change that any time soon.. people working on the files mainly use windows, some mac and some linux |
| 15:18.45 | somiaj | kni: it is a problem with your sources.list. You are mixing sources that have maybe differnt versions of pacakges and different depends. the apt dependency resolver cannot figure out such sitatuions. |
| 15:18.52 | *** join/#debian mnewton (~mnewton@chi-pat.cashnetusa.com) |
| 15:18.52 | etherape | nabblet: i think pgp/gpg is the most ideal choice, you can encrypt files which are decryptable by several users (public keys) |
| 15:19.19 | kni | somiaj, i've just removed the crunchbang repos and updated, I still get the exact same error |
| 15:19.22 | mnewton | I want to make a script that installs a few packages in linux, how do i check if a user has sudo access? |
| 15:19.23 | nabblet | etherape: but they can not reencypt, after they finished their word |
| 15:19.28 | nabblet | etherape: *work |
| 15:19.57 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (angel@46.108.180.9) |
| 15:19.57 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (angel@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 15:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1297] by debhelper |
| 15:20.20 | babilen | kni: You have, most likely, already packages installed from #! -- We really don't support it, but even *iff* we were to support it you would have to paste the actual output in question. |
| 15:20.24 | babilen | dpkg: tell kni -about bat |
| 15:20.25 | etherape | you could decrypt while you are working on a file, save it locally in a safe place, re-encrypt and save in a share |
| 15:20.25 | jargon | kni: why would u remove the cb repos? i thought the distro is cb? |
| 15:20.28 | somiaj | kni: listen to babilen. You installed crunchbang, so those packages are also on your system. If you want to run debian you may have to reinstall wheezy from scratch. If you want to run crunchbang go use their support. |
| 15:20.57 | babilen | kni: And please make sure that you have *nothing* installed from #! and that you cleaned up everything their packages might have changed. |
| 15:21.09 | *** join/#debian Sambler (~OKASO@unaffiliated/sambler) |
| 15:21.12 | babilen | (I would assume that you have to reinstall for that) |
| 15:21.13 | etherape | nabblet: but that needs a little bit of scripting to make it convient |
| 15:21.17 | somiaj | kni: if debian is your actual base os, you are gonna have to manually clean (with dpkg most likey) the mess you have created |
| 15:21.19 | jargon | smh |
| 15:21.45 | kni | and how would I manually clean it? |
| 15:21.49 | *** join/#debian Sambler (~OKASO@unaffiliated/sambler) |
| 15:21.54 | mumpitzel | kni: with dpkg -r <package> |
| 15:21.56 | somiaj | kni: read every error and fix it until you have no more |
| 15:22.26 | somiaj | kni: might have to manunally chase dependencies down and download the .debs from packages.debian.org. Backing up user data / settings and reinstall may be quicker and far more reliable |
| 15:23.13 | kni | ah, dpkg -r should work |
| 15:23.24 | babilen | kni: It is very likely that there is no way to transition your system to the pure Debian state, but either way we would *still* have to see the actual output and apt-cache policy output you see. And please respect it, your configuration is not supported and I kindly ask you to make sure that you use a clean Debian system before you continue to ask for support in here. |
| 15:23.56 | etherape | i've to go, if someone has a genius insight about the cleanest proc start time plz mail me: stdin[at]loop0.com |
| 15:24.02 | *** join/#debian Malsasa (~quassel@114.79.56.233) |
| 15:24.06 | *** join/#debian dagr8one (2679ed55@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.121.237.85) |
| 15:24.07 | kni | babilen, fortunately someone actually gave a useful response instead of whining, so dw |
| 15:24.13 | kni | i'm sure I can handle stuff from here |
| 15:24.17 | kni | toodles |
| 15:24.23 | babilen | ffs |
| 15:24.57 | *** join/#debian White_Light (~Riot@76.84.90.221) |
| 15:25.28 | dagr8one | is there a debian forum? |
| 15:25.29 | *** join/#debian nell (~nail@pool-173-79-34-40.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 15:25.43 | *** join/#debian BitPuffin (~quassel@s193-13-104-175.cust.tele2.se) |
| 15:25.52 | *** join/#debian ctmjr (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 15:25.52 | *** join/#debian ctmjr (~chuck@pdpc/supporter/active/ctmjr) |
| 15:25.52 | nell | is there a site I can test what a page might see from my browser? |
| 15:26.16 | somiaj | dagr8one: there are a few out there. |
| 15:26.28 | *** part/#debian fcodiaz (~fcodiaz@208.71.232.130) |
| 15:26.54 | babilen | dagr8one: yes, but don't go there! ;) -- I would recommend the mailing lists if you are looking for alternative support venues |
| 15:26.59 | somiaj | dagr8one: http://www.debian.org/support#web |
| 15:27.27 | *** join/#debian afx_hero (~afx_hero@174.32.173.34) |
| 15:27.27 | *** join/#debian afx_hero (~afx_hero@unaffiliated/afx-hero/x-0829277) |
| 15:27.34 | redintellect | I think kali forums is a good place for people who use jessie. |
| 15:27.37 | *** join/#debian ctmjr_ (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 15:28.07 | *** join/#debian v4nelle (~van@46-198-77-215.adsl.cyta.gr) |
| 15:28.16 | somiaj | redintellect: why? the bts always has more useful info (Though I guess you do need to know a little bit about debian to be able to send good bug reports) |
| 15:28.18 | babilen | redintellect: those are far from officially recommended by us, so ... ymmv |
| 15:28.36 | *** join/#debian movl (~arares@89.47.83.116) |
| 15:28.37 | *** join/#debian movl (~arares@unaffiliated/movl) |
| 15:29.21 | dagr8one | I see |
| 15:29.41 | somiaj | but when ever I run acorss an error bug in jessie/sid I go straight to the bts and most times find a fix |
| 15:29.42 | *** join/#debian bitwave (~bitwave@outlook.intellisystems.com) |
| 15:29.57 | *** join/#debian Devastator (~devas@186.214.111.124) |
| 15:29.59 | somiaj | (recent example was finding a patch for the nivida-nonfree drivers to compile them against the 3.10 kernel) |
| 15:30.42 | *** join/#debian cyrano (~cyrano@net-93-144-195-188.cust.dsl.teletu.it) |
| 15:30.44 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 15:30.46 | redintellect | I'd love to use jessie, but I don't know if I should, and even if I do, I don't know how you change to "testing" |
| 15:30.58 | redintellect | is it just changing the repo s? |
| 15:31.08 | somiaj | redintellect: yes, but be prepared to fix things as they break |
| 15:31.25 | somiaj | redintellect: unless you really enjoy the fun of fixing things and learning about debian. wheezy + backports is the way to go. |
| 15:31.31 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 15:31.32 | dagr8one | How do I include the recipient of my message? |
| 15:32.05 | redintellect | dagr8one, in irc you mean? |
| 15:32.09 | dagr8one | Yes |
| 15:32.27 | somiaj | redintellect: but use at your own risk. Modify your /etc/apt/sources.list and switch 'wheezy' with 'jessie'. Remove security.debian.org and wheezy-update sources, and then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. Be pepared to fix the problems that you find |
| 15:32.31 | redintellect | somiaj, I love fixing things |
| 15:32.41 | jargon | toodles. lol |
| 15:32.41 | *** join/#debian e66 (~quassel@27.147.181.37) |
| 15:32.42 | jargon | nice |
| 15:33.07 | *** join/#debian ctmjr (~chuck@pdpc/supporter/active/ctmjr) |
| 15:33.18 | redintellect | dagr8one, just type the first letters of the username of your recipient and then use TAB for auto-complete |
| 15:33.20 | somiaj | dagr8one: if you just type the users name you want to address and their client will highlith their name. You can send people private messages, but it is considered rude unless you ask first. |
| 15:33.34 | babilen | redintellect: The consensus is typically "Don't if you do not even know how to upgrade" -- You will encounter problems that are *much* harder to fix than figuring out how to upgrade and I wouldn't recommend that setup to people not familiar with it. But then, there is only one way to learn and if you are willing to invest the time why don't you give it a try? |
| 15:33.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell redintellect about wheezy->jessie |
| 15:33.45 | *** join/#debian Kiril (kiril@freebsd/lover/kiril) |
| 15:33.49 | Kiril | hello guys |
| 15:34.04 | Kiril | how to install nginx on wheezy 7.1 ? |
| 15:34.25 | somiaj | ,v nginx |
| 15:34.26 | judd | Package: nginx on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2~bpo60+2; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy1; jessie: 1.4.1-3; sid: 1.4.1-3 |
| 15:34.40 | babilen | redintellect: I would also strongly recommend to read https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable as a lot of tips/tricks apply to testing too. In particular make sure to have apt-listbugs installed and configured to your liking. |
| 15:34.42 | somiaj | Kiril: what do you mean, there are nginx packages you can install with apt-get/aptitude like any other software |
| 15:34.59 | babilen | Kiril: "apt-get install nginx" |
| 15:35.14 | somiaj | Kiril: or do you want a newer version than the one provided in wheezy? |
| 15:35.30 | Kiril | i haven't install any version |
| 15:35.43 | *** join/#debian ctmjr__ (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 15:35.45 | Kiril | i want to make fresh install |
| 15:35.52 | *** join/#debian Onkyo (~User46-II@5249ED1F.cm-4-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 15:35.55 | Kiril | do i need to add some specific in sources.lst ? |
| 15:36.09 | Kiril | or i should use directly apt-get install nginx ? |
| 15:36.10 | babilen | Kiril: What do you have in your sources.list now? Could you paste it to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 15:36.19 | redintellect | somiaj, babilen, is there a lot of problems? do they get in the way of the other things? :-? |
| 15:36.30 | somiaj | Kiril: you just need the standard debian sources in your sources.list. Provided you have them apt-get install nginx will work. |
| 15:36.59 | redintellect | oh btw, |
| 15:37.07 | redintellect | Unstable has a lot of bugs to fix right? |
| 15:37.09 | babilen | Kiril: Why do you think that you should do something else? |
| 15:37.12 | redintellect | I need a third system for that |
| 15:37.21 | somiaj | redintellect: I run sid. I did my first update since the release of wheezy this week. I otally expected lots of breakage. Luckly so far the only thing that broke was my X (very important to most). I was able to find the fix fairly quickly and apply it. But I have done this many times |
| 15:37.38 | Kiril | babilen |
| 15:37.38 | Kiril | http://paste.debian.net/21604/ |
| 15:37.39 | *** join/#debian _goTAN (~goTAN@HSI-KBW-46-223-104-162.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 15:38.00 | redintellect | somiaj, your xorg broke? can I also learn a lot by running jessie? |
| 15:38.04 | somiaj | redintellect: when you upgrade your testing/unstable enviorment or even just install a new piece of software it can be anything from smooths sailing to making your computer unsuable and unbootable (I have had that happen) |
| 15:38.09 | *** join/#debian s4a (~deniz@192.154.151.197) |
| 15:38.30 | dagr8one | So.. I'm new to Debian, or Linux in general to be honest.. I mean in the past, I've tried Arch Linux and Ubuntu, but I never had the time to actually sit down and learn my way around the OS. This time around I plan on actually learning from the basics, and hopefully start doing some development on the OS. |
| 15:38.30 | somiaj | redintellect: I haven't heard of any dataloss during upgrades, but in the past (years and years ago) some testing/unstable upgrades took out the whole filesystem. |
| 15:38.33 | redintellect | somiaj, unbootable eh? then I need a rescue cd. |
| 15:38.46 | babilen | Kiril: That is not wheezy, but squeeze (Debian 6) and please don't use ftp.debian.org but a local mirror such as ftp.uk.debian.org ftp.us.debian.org ... |
| 15:38.47 | dagr8one | Can any websites, videos be recommended for learning purposes? |
| 15:38.50 | somiaj | redintellect: correct. I had to reboot from a rescue cd and manually fix the problem. |
| 15:39.02 | babilen | dpkg: tell Kiril -about squeeze->wheezy |
| 15:39.32 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 15:39.35 | somiaj | redintellect: one small break can break your X and depending on your skill take days, or weeks to fix. When I was learning I'd sometimes have downtimes of weeks on my main computer |
| 15:39.36 | babilen | Kiril: You might want to upgrade that system to wheezy in due course. That being said: nginx is also available in squeeze. (older version than in wheezy, naturally) |
| 15:39.38 | redintellect | somiaj, I'm using wheezy right now, because I'm mostly coding and working on web development/software development projecs |
| 15:40.01 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@adsl-26.109.242.205.tellas.gr) |
| 15:40.01 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@unaffiliated/gnugr) |
| 15:40.04 | babilen | dagr8one: I recommend http://debian-handbook.info/ |
| 15:40.16 | redintellect | somiaj, is jessie like that also? I can spare 1 or 2 hours a day to maintain my laptop |
| 15:40.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell dagr8one about introduction |
| 15:40.27 | *** join/#debian grandie (~Grandad@p57ACCC9B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:40.36 | redintellect | somiaj, but Sid, I assume, takes a lot more than that? |
| 15:40.43 | Kiril | i thougt it's already updated |
| 15:40.43 | somiaj | redintellect: but just do it, it is fun if you want. Just be prepared to have a non function operating system. And if you need to get work done it may not be advisable. I finally switched my laptop back to wheezy because I got tired of fixing my work machine |
| 15:40.52 | babilen | dagr8one: Ask the bot about all the factoids in <...> for further information on good documentation. |
| 15:41.17 | dagr8one | What is Linux? |
| 15:41.21 | redintellect | somiaj, I also migrated from arch to debian yesterday because of that fact. |
| 15:41.38 | somiaj | redintellect: I prefer sid, I think it has less problems than testing. They each have their own problems. Sid gets fixes way quicker and has less migration problems when huge software sets (gnome for instance) migrate in. Jessi may run fine for you for months or even years and then one day be broken. No way to say what problems your setup will find. |
| 15:41.41 | dagr8one | dpkg: what is linux? |
| 15:41.42 | dpkg | i heard linux is closed |
| 15:41.52 | dagr8one | dpkg: hello |
| 15:41.52 | dpkg | hi |
| 15:41.53 | babilen | Kiril: You sources.list is that of a squeeze system. If you could paste the output of "uname -a", "dpkg -l apt libc6 multiarch-support dpkg" and "cat /etc/debian_version" to http://paste.debian.net we will have a better idea |
| 15:41.58 | *** join/#debian lord4163 (~lord4163@81-232-61-81-no226.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 15:42.09 | dagr8one | dpkg: debian forums |
| 15:42.09 | dpkg | dagr8one: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 15:42.13 | redintellect | somiaj, which is going to be the next stable release? |
| 15:42.14 | babilen | dagr8one: Please, send private message to the bot and don't play with it in the channel. |
| 15:42.19 | babilen | dpkg: tell dagr8one -about msgthebot |
| 15:42.28 | somiaj | redintellect: jessie will be the next stable in most likely 2-3 years |
| 15:42.39 | redintellect | somiaj, and Sid? |
| 15:42.47 | somiaj | redintellect: sid has always and will always be unstable. It is basically the first places new packages get uploaded to |
| 15:43.04 | redintellect | somiaj, oh I see. that's a challenge. |
| 15:43.19 | somiaj | redintellect: new packages get put in sid. If they survive in sid long enough with out any grave bug reports (10 days I think is the minimum) they migrate to testing (provided it is not in the freeze to become stable) |
| 15:43.20 | redintellect | somiaj, I'm gonna steal another system only to run Sid xD |
| 15:43.30 | babilen | redintellect: Start by reading the website that I linked earlier. You might also want to read http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.release-lifecycle.html |
| 15:43.48 | redintellect | babilen, thanks |
| 15:43.55 | redintellect | somiaj, thanks ;) |
| 15:44.02 | somiaj | redintellect: so that is why I prefer sid. It gets fixes faster (but also gets more bugs). Testing has less bugs, but slower fixes [and sometimes unique bugs of its own] |
| 15:44.11 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 15:44.49 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@77.28.16.5) |
| 15:45.02 | somiaj | is reminded of the commic he saw recentally. '99 bugs in the cod, 99 bugs in the code. Take a patch, pass it around, 117 bugs in the code' |
| 15:45.10 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@unaffiliated/t3oss) |
| 15:45.21 | *** part/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 15:45.56 | grandie | might be the wrong place to ask, but going from wheezy to testing should it be upgrade or dist-upgrade |
| 15:46.02 | redintellect | somiaj, I see. that's fun and challenge and I like a challenge. |
| 15:46.05 | somiaj | grandie: I do both |
| 15:46.16 | *** join/#debian Jdbye (~jdbye@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 15:46.22 | somiaj | grandie: upgrade will only upgrade packages that do not require you remove or install new packages (I do that first) |
| 15:46.36 | babilen | grandie: You will *have* to run a dist-upgrade as it is very likely that packages have to be removed in order to complete the upgrade. |
| 15:46.37 | *** join/#debian dtcrshr (~dataCrshr@unaffiliated/datacrusher) |
| 15:46.46 | somiaj | grandie: dist-upgrade will upgrade all packages including installing new packages and removing old packages. This will be required to go from wheezy to jessie |
| 15:47.00 | *** join/#debian jpo (~jpo@unaffiliated/jpo) |
| 15:47.12 | grandie | Great thanks guy's |
| 15:47.27 | *** join/#debian calisto (~calisto@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 15:47.39 | somiaj | I prefer to do both, because I find the major breaks sometimes occur with the adding/removing packages, so if I do the dist-upgrade second this gives me a smaller list of packages that could possibaly break things and makes it easier to debug when it does. |
| 15:47.45 | grandie | sorry, should have said all |
| 15:48.28 | grandie | understand but i was under the impression that you could not be both |
| 15:48.33 | *** join/#debian Sevet (steveayre@149.241.69.221) |
| 15:48.59 | somiaj | well you can run one first, then the other second. The difference is only in if you allow apt to add/remove packages during the process |
| 15:49.42 | somiaj | note I belive aptitudes safe-upgrade is not the same as apt-get's upgrade. As it does allow some adding/removing packages but still will not upgrade everything. |
| 15:50.07 | *** join/#debian GRMrGecko (~GRMrGecko@user-24-214-103-12.knology.net) |
| 15:50.28 | babilen | it also tends to overthink complicated upgrades and hides in a cave for ages before it gives up and informs the user that it couldn't find a solution |
| 15:50.28 | somiaj | yea I guess safe-upgrade allows the removal of auto installed packages if they are no longer dependened on. |
| 15:51.32 | grandie | ok, thanks i'll give it a try |
| 15:52.05 | *** join/#debian kermit (~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 15:52.32 | *** join/#debian codesoup (~codesoup@69-165-145-211.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 15:54.45 | Kiril | how to fix this: http://paste.debian.net/21621/ |
| 15:55.59 | *** join/#debian Jdbye (~jdbye@ti0010a380-dhcp1283.bb.online.no) |
| 15:56.28 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 15:56.29 | dagr8one | babilen: printing all 463 pages of this handbook haha |
| 15:56.43 | somiaj | Kiril: does 'apt-get install locales' work? |
| 15:57.10 | somiaj | Kiril: if that packages is installed try 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' |
| 15:57.16 | somiaj | and select your correct locale |
| 15:58.07 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@88.216.5.200) |
| 15:58.07 | *** join/#debian e1z0 (~null@netlinux/founder/e1z0) |
| 15:58.09 | Kiril | somiaj thanks |
| 15:58.18 | Kiril | still install new packages |
| 15:59.48 | *** join/#debian boudiccas (~boudiccas@unaffiliated/boudiccas) |
| 16:00.46 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 16:02.23 | *** join/#debian firecode (~irc@unaffiliated/firecode) |
| 16:02.24 | *** join/#debian LNShadow (~LNShadow@109.188.127.105) |
| 16:03.19 | *** join/#debian ffio (~fire@unaffiliated/security) |
| 16:03.21 | *** join/#debian bwana147 (~cbouvi@196-212-250-178.ftth.cust.kwaoo.net) |
| 16:03.22 | *** join/#debian Rackmount (~frogsicle@173.240.222.2) |
| 16:03.55 | *** join/#debian N34lO (~weechat@2a00:12d8:2:7::bad:c0de) |
| 16:05.00 | N34lO | hi, can some one tell me wtf i'm dooing wrong? - if i want to try to install gdm3 or gnome it gives me a conflikt betreen to pkg that are to be installed |
| 16:05.16 | mumpitzel | !tell N34lO about bat |
| 16:05.29 | *** join/#debian KaSh__ (ident@vai87-2-78-232-52-146.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:05.41 | *** join/#debian bitwave (~bitwave@97.67.160.84) |
| 16:05.47 | *** join/#debian sharky (~sharky@g228137232.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 16:05.52 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo (~jo@46.115.93.82) |
| 16:06.08 | N34lO | mumpitzel: i haven't includded any extra repos or set any policys |
| 16:07.08 | N34lO | only the wheezy std repos (main contrib) for wheezy, wheezy/updates |
| 16:07.13 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@2.31.5.212) |
| 16:07.52 | *** part/#debian KaSh__ (ident@vai87-2-78-232-52-146.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:08.08 | babilen | N34lO: Please show us on http://paste.debian.net and include the "apt-cache policy PKG" output for every package in question. Also paste your sources.list from /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 16:08.48 | Kiril | somiaj, en_EN UTF-8 ? |
| 16:09.03 | babilen | Kiril: en_GB.utf-8 ! |
| 16:09.05 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-89-0-197-139.netcologne.de) |
| 16:09.25 | *** join/#debian shinnya (~shinnya@137.17.138.58.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 16:09.58 | N34lO | babilen, i'm woriking with console only how should i post something on paste.debian.net? |
| 16:10.02 | Kiril | en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8 |
| 16:10.07 | Kiril | that's should be correct |
| 16:10.49 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 16:11.03 | kaste | N34lO: use wgetpaste |
| 16:11.20 | babilen | dpkg: tell N34lO -about nopaste |
| 16:11.22 | *** join/#debian Unleashed (~alex@140.Red-83-59-218.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:11.27 | babilen | (or wgetpaste, both work) |
| 16:13.22 | *** join/#debian Bry8Star (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) |
| 16:13.23 | Talon_ | I've got debian wheezy, running gnome-shell, I have a little annoying issue I can't seem to figure out, in iceweasel, I watch some flash videos, when I click fullscreen, sometimes its on the monitor I want it to be on, sometimes it choses my other display... how do I move it after its fullscreen? |
| 16:13.52 | kaste | Talon_: alt click maybe? |
| 16:14.19 | N34lO | babilen, mumpitzel http://sprunge.eu/DHBE http://sprunge.us/bZVZ |
| 16:14.29 | Talon_ | nope, don't work :/ |
| 16:15.09 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@dslb-188-108-232-121.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:15.11 | *** join/#debian x-treme (~x-treme@unaffiliated/x-treme) |
| 16:15.42 | *** join/#debian moty66 (~chatzilla@host210-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com) |
| 16:15.44 | Kiril | babilen, somiaj still gives me http://paste.debian.net/21630/ |
| 16:15.47 | *** join/#debian Sevet_ (steveayre@149.241.69.221) |
| 16:15.52 | Unleashed | does anyone know whether anonscm.debian.org is alive? |
| 16:16.25 | redintellect | on what things good security support is important? |
| 16:16.30 | somiaj | Kiril: are you running debian. Or some debian based distro |
| 16:16.48 | Kiril | debian |
| 16:16.57 | Kiril | here are all stats babilen required: http://paste.debian.net/21632/ |
| 16:17.26 | *** join/#debian Devastator (~devas@186.214.111.96) |
| 16:17.26 | *** join/#debian Devastator (~devas@unaffiliated/devastator) |
| 16:17.26 | somiaj | your locales are messed up, and the fact that 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' does not pop up a ncurses window asking you to select and then generate your locales makes me thing ubuntu (because I know ubuntu doesn't do locales the same) |
| 16:17.58 | *** join/#debian bez (~michal@82-160-242-6.tktelekom.pl) |
| 16:18.07 | Kiril | nope it's debian |
| 16:18.19 | redintellect | Talon_, what is your other display? |
| 16:18.20 | peterrooney | ,versions apt |
| 16:18.21 | judd | Package: apt on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.10.3+squeeze1; wheezy: 0.9.7.9; jessie: 0.9.8.2; sid: 0.9.9.4 |
| 16:18.31 | peterrooney | ,versions dpkg |
| 16:18.32 | judd | Package: dpkg on i386 -- squeeze: 1.15.8.13; jessie: 1.16.10; wheezy: 1.16.10; sid: 1.17.1 |
| 16:18.43 | somiaj | Kiril: now I am only seeing more problems. Why do you have a squeeze kernel yet a testing/unstable version of libc6:amd64? |
| 16:18.47 | babilen | Kiril: That is not a "real" debian as your kernel is 2.6.32-348.4.1.el5.028stab107.1 -- It looks like some (OpenVZ?) hosted VM that was partially upgraded to wheezy. I don't think you can fully upgrade to wheezy as you are locked into that kernel (and wheezy requires 3.2) -- Talk to your hoster about options for running wheezy. All that being said your sources.list is completely wrong for wheezy. |
| 16:19.01 | Kiril | yeah that's vps |
| 16:19.09 | N34lO | babilen, mumpitzel - here what you asked for http://sprunge.us/WAgR http://sprunge.us/DHBE http://sprunge.us/bZVZ |
| 16:19.13 | babilen | And yeah, that setup is even more fucked up then I realised. |
| 16:19.17 | mumpitzel | N34lO: what is the output of apt-get install gdm3 ? |
| 16:19.55 | N34lO | mumpitzel: more or less http://sprunge.us/WAgR |
| 16:20.35 | *** join/#debian jkamp (~josh@unixcorps/staff/quiet) |
| 16:20.39 | babilen | N34lO: Please run "apt-get update" and then "apt-get dist-upgrade" and show us the output please. |
| 16:21.12 | peterrooney | Kiril: that's some messed up versions. apt from wheezy, dpkg from 1.16:10, libc6 from jessie? |
| 16:21.13 | mumpitzel | N34lO: I suggest you unnstall packagekit with dpkg |
| 16:21.19 | N34lO | babilen: this is a fresh installd debian wheezy |
| 16:21.21 | babilen | Kiril: You have to talk to your hoster -- your system is in a very, well, inconsistent state (to put it mildly). |
| 16:21.27 | N34lO | babilen: netinstall |
| 16:21.28 | Talon_ | redintellect: a slightly smaller older monitor, I have my primary on the right, and my secondary on the left, I generally use my secondary for a virtualbox guest windows 7 machine. |
| 16:21.31 | *** join/#debian i4c (~i4c@unaffiliated/i4c) |
| 16:21.34 | *** join/#debian cyan0hack (~cyan0hack@46.233.72.67) |
| 16:21.44 | babilen | N34lO: Yes, please show me the output of those commands. |
| 16:21.45 | *** part/#debian johnfg (johnfg@host-184-166-136-254.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net) |
| 16:22.07 | N34lO | mumpitzel: packagekit ist not installed - its a dep. |
| 16:22.20 | babilen | N34lO: Any particular reason why you have enabled contrib but not non-free btw? |
| 16:22.20 | *** join/#debian Xentinel (~Xentinel@188.183.143.105) |
| 16:22.34 | i4c | hi all do any of u know how to set a max volume, so if a movie has a loud spike, for example a horror movie, i don't go deaf ? |
| 16:22.58 | *** join/#debian mamed (~erwin@88.234.91.8) |
| 16:23.10 | i4c | i don't want normalization |
| 16:23.26 | jkamp | i4c: that's what normalization is.... |
| 16:23.28 | koollman | i4c: that's what it is called, though |
| 16:23.39 | N34lO | babilen: well don't know - should i add non-free? |
| 16:23.43 | babilen | (s)he doesn't want that! |
| 16:23.53 | i4c | not really, normalization soothes the volume |
| 16:24.05 | koollman | maybe you don't want linear normalization. but it's still normalization |
| 16:24.08 | i4c | i don't want that, i want my volume to be free, but not surpass a limit |
| 16:24.20 | koollman | wishes for all volumes to be free |
| 16:24.28 | babilen | N34lO: Please do, then run "apt-get update" and show me the output of that and "apt-get dist-upgrade" please. Also include the output of "aptitude search ~b" |
| 16:24.29 | mamed | hello guys. after updating my (instaling ) my video drivers fglrx-driver my xfce desktop could not start. I see a black screen with a blinking curosr. i switch to VT1 and then login as a root and thrn run thr lightdm so that i am able to see the login screen . how can i get my log in scren without switching to vt1 |
| 16:24.35 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@81.144.163.60) |
| 16:24.41 | koollman | yeah. it's a special case of normalization. Not sure how to do that easily |
| 16:24.50 | babilen | mamed: How did you install/configure fglrx? |
| 16:24.51 | *** join/#debian iceflatline (~iceflatli@209-23-210-2-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 16:25.01 | mamed | babilen, vis synaptic |
| 16:25.05 | mamed | via* |
| 16:25.46 | jkamp | i4c: VLC has some good normalization features. |
| 16:25.47 | koollman | i4c: it would be called volume capping. not sure any mixer supports it easily though |
| 16:26.00 | babilen | mamed: Which package? And how did you configure it? Please also read and follow https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 16:26.04 | i4c | ah yes koollman ! |
| 16:26.24 | koollman | i4c: but really, it's a special case of normalization, so a configurable volume normalizer can do that |
| 16:26.31 | mamed | babilen, i did not configure must i?? |
| 16:26.34 | jhutchins | i4c: You want a limiter. |
| 16:26.37 | N34lO | babilen: http://sprunge.us/iFNf http://sprunge.us/IjOe |
| 16:26.39 | koollman | not that I know any, but you shouldn't turn away from normalization |
| 16:26.57 | babilen | mamed: Sure, it will not be used by default. The wiki article explains how to configure Xorg to use the fglrx driver. |
| 16:27.09 | mamed | hm ok babilen i will read and try |
| 16:27.17 | N34lO | http://sprunge.us/XVQJ |
| 16:27.23 | babilen | N34lO: thanks |
| 16:27.23 | *** join/#debian achadwick (~achadwick@nat-alpha.ceu.ox.ac.uk) |
| 16:27.25 | i4c | hi jhutchins do you know any limiters on official repo ? |
| 16:27.32 | i4c | or even custom |
| 16:28.11 | babilen | N34lO: What about "aptitude -f install" and "aptitude dist-upgrade" ... You are, eventually, trying to install gdm3 aren't you? If so then show me the output of "aptitude install gdm3" too. |
| 16:28.28 | babilen | N34lO: Oh, please run "aptitude keep-all" before all this please. |
| 16:28.30 | *** join/#debian wildc4rd (~nick@109.176.184.99) |
| 16:29.02 | mamed | babilen, i dont have xorg.conf.d in my /etc/X11 dir |
| 16:29.24 | N34lO | babilen: no differnece |
| 16:29.28 | *** join/#debian Fire-Dragon-DoL (~Fire-Drag@adsl203-145-043.mclink.it) |
| 16:29.28 | babilen | mamed: create it (mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/) |
| 16:29.35 | *** join/#debian the_fallen (~legion@75.92.24.248) |
| 16:29.55 | babilen | N34lO: Show me please and cycle through more than the first three alternatives (answer "n") |
| 16:30.25 | *** join/#debian Fire-Dragon-DoL (~Fire-Drag@adsl203-145-043.mclink.it) |
| 16:30.33 | *** join/#debian angs (~ubuntu@85.235.3.43) |
| 16:30.42 | *** join/#debian teeteewhy (~teeteewhy@no.ra.pe) |
| 16:30.48 | N34lO | babilen: how? i can't enter anything when piping the input somewhere |
| 16:30.58 | *** join/#debian neon (~neon@bzq-79-182-194-118.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 16:31.27 | babilen | N34lO: good call :) -- you can use script(1) to write it all to a file. |
| 16:31.36 | angs | is there a time limitation if I assign an IP via ifconfig eth0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx? (not asking for ip addr add xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/xx dev eth0) |
| 16:31.39 | *** join/#debian trueneu (~trueneu@188.134.38.205) |
| 16:32.26 | N34lO | babilen: it then says "keep the following pkg at their current version: packagekit [not installed] packagekit-tools [not installed] ... Leave the following dep. unresolved ..." |
| 16:32.29 | *** join/#debian crus (~crusader@crus0r.soho.on.net) |
| 16:32.38 | babilen | N34lO: Unfortunately I have to go now and I *really* don't yet understand why you see the output you see. There is no dependency chain between gdm3 and python-aptdaemon.pkcompat |
| 16:32.52 | mamed | i am restarting babilen |
| 16:32.59 | N34lO | don't know o_O |
| 16:33.13 | *** join/#debian SmashingX (~kvirc@64.207.33.226) |
| 16:33.37 | N34lO | babilen: gdm3 seams to have many dep |
| 16:33.45 | N34lO | mom i'll post the list |
| 16:34.41 | *** join/#debian White_Heat (~Riot@76.84.90.221) |
| 16:34.42 | babilen | N34lO: There is no dependency chain between those two packages though |
| 16:34.56 | babilen | N34lO: I'm off now, good luck! |
| 16:35.58 | N34lO | babilen, it is trying to install some gnome- |
| 16:36.01 | N34lO | pkg |
| 16:37.27 | *** join/#debian mamed (~erwin@88.234.91.8) |
| 16:37.28 | *** join/#debian HardlySeen (~HardlySee@unaffiliated/gatheringknowleg) |
| 16:37.32 | mamed | babilen, it did not work |
| 16:37.37 | mamed | i think the problem is xfce |
| 16:38.34 | *** join/#debian Ontological (~Ontologic@66.210.64.254) |
| 16:39.01 | Ontological | Is it possible to disable the GUI notifications when new packages are available in apt repos? |
| 16:39.12 | *** join/#debian calisto1 (~calisto@r186-48-217-37.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 16:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1291] by debhelper |
| 16:40.08 | *** join/#debian amgarching (~amgarchin@p4FD6283D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:40.14 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-89-0-197-139.netcologne.de) |
| 16:40.34 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 16:40.42 | *** part/#debian magikman (~magikman@cpe-098-122-152-168.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 16:41.45 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:41.54 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo_ (~jo@46.115.50.160) |
| 16:42.00 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 16:42.02 | *** join/#debian s3phir0th115 (~s3phir0th@pool-71-113-2-152.rcmdva.east.verizon.net) |
| 16:42.44 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:44.22 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:45.07 | mullein | anyone know where to submit bug reports/patches against ftpsync? |
| 16:46.07 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:47.21 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:47.27 | nkuttler | !tell mullein about reportbug |
| 16:48.21 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:48.23 | mullein | i know about the bts, it just seems that ftpsync is maintained outside of the packages tree |
| 16:48.46 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 16:48.57 | mullein | there's no package for it at least |
| 16:49.08 | nkuttler | oh, so it's not in debian? |
| 16:49.11 | *** join/#debian boudiccas (~boudiccas@unaffiliated/boudiccas) |
| 16:49.17 | nkuttler | or is it something for the ftp servers? |
| 16:49.27 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:49.30 | mullein | afaict, no. it's the script to run a debian mirror. |
| 16:49.53 | nkuttler | apt-file doesn't seem to know anything about it |
| 16:50.26 | *** part/#debian czchen (uid12445@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lmxbumxklcvlbeaw) |
| 16:50.33 | nkuttler | mullein: i see, try to contact the ftp masters? |
| 16:50.34 | mullein | it's only found through this page: http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror |
| 16:50.45 | nkuttler | curious that it's apparently not packaged |
| 16:50.50 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@99-75-56-172.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:51.27 | nkuttler | it's not even gzipped... |
| 16:51.50 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:52.26 | *** join/#debian matthew (~matthew@24-159-215-150.static.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 16:52.47 | *** join/#debian aa47f8 (~sdaone@h187n14-far-a13.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 16:53.01 | nkuttler | mullein: see https://wiki.debian.org/IRC/, there's an ftp channel |
| 16:53.08 | nkuttler | @ oftc |
| 16:53.31 | mullein | wow, debian moved its channels off of this network? |
| 16:53.41 | nkuttler | quite some time ago |
| 16:53.43 | nkuttler | !oftc |
| 16:53.43 | dpkg | OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. http://www.oftc.net/ See also <freenode>, <oftc move> and <fact sharing>. |
| 16:53.56 | nkuttler | 2006 |
| 16:53.59 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:54.18 | mullein | heh, i guess i missed that. thanks, nkuttler |
| 16:54.24 | nkuttler | np |
| 16:54.51 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~bitcount@81.61.208.23.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 16:55.11 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:55.13 | *** join/#debian MaxLanar (~user@80.215.84.82) |
| 16:55.58 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe2 (~havoc@sd440645e.adsl.online.nl) |
| 16:56.21 | *** join/#debian jscott1989 (~jscott198@dab-ell1-h-1-5.dab.02.net) |
| 16:56.58 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:57.57 | *** join/#debian hatchetjack (~jason@egress-10gigE.BISonline.com) |
| 16:58.03 | hatchetjack | how can I create a .dsc file? |
| 16:58.07 | *** join/#debian edogawaco (nanaya@124.116.131.180.tokyo.global.crust-r.net) |
| 16:58.24 | hatchetjack | I have source directory with debian/ changes and an orig file |
| 16:58.24 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 16:59.01 | hatchetjack | I've been doing dpkg-source -b zabbix-1.8.17/ and getting dpkg-source: error: LC_ALL=C patch -t -F 0 -N -p1 -u -V never -g0 -E -b -B .pc/nocrypto/ --reject-file=- < zabbix-1.8.17.orig.zxGEiW/debian/patches/nocrypto gave error exit status 1 |
| 16:59.36 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~emonge@200.110.251.210) |
| 16:59.51 | *** join/#debian ponyofdeath (~vladi@cpe-75-80-165-117.san.res.rr.com) |
| 17:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1285] by debhelper |
| 17:00.13 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:00.57 | *** mode/#debian [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 17:00.58 | *** mode/#debian [-qo *!*@90.205.90.100 eir] by eir |
| 17:01.27 | *** join/#debian kriger (~norge@71-90-14-51.dhcp.ftbg.wi.charter.com) |
| 17:01.36 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@233.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 17:01.58 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:02.57 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:04.27 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:04.57 | *** join/#debian Sleepy63 (~Sleepy63@pool-71-123-177-129.dllstx.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 17:04.58 | *** part/#debian N34lO (~weechat@2a00:12d8:2:7::bad:c0de) |
| 17:04.59 | mentor | hatchetjack: The patch did not apply |
| 17:06.03 | *** join/#debian pl9308 (~pl9308@p54A837D7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:06.13 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:06.33 | *** join/#debian bin (~bin@94.155.229.38) |
| 17:06.33 | *** join/#debian bin (~bin@unaffiliated/phreaky) |
| 17:07.25 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:09.02 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:09.14 | *** join/#debian moty66 (~chatzilla@host210-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com) |
| 17:09.19 | *** join/#debian lavamind (~lavamind@206.167.119.5) |
| 17:09.59 | *** join/#debian shingouz (~doowop@85-76-106-135-nat.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 17:10.02 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:10.27 | lavamind | hello, I'd like to install Debian on a hardware RAID device and have it create an ext4 filesystem with specific stride and stripe parameters, is this possible ?? |
| 17:10.32 | *** join/#debian StathisA (~StathisA@athedsl-373082.home.otenet.gr) |
| 17:10.35 | *** join/#debian Archtivity (~Archtivit@static-dsl-205.87-197-159.telecom.sk) |
| 17:10.56 | lavamind | or alternatively, can I install debian on an existing filesystem, and WITHOUT formatting it ? |
| 17:11.12 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:11.23 | mentor | lavamind: Yes |
| 17:11.32 | *** join/#debian m8 (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 17:12.26 | lavamind | mentor: how ? I've googled "debian installer" stride stripe, and haven't got any interesting results |
| 17:12.37 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:13.02 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@88.238.192.66) |
| 17:13.02 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 17:13.06 | mentor | lavamind: When you set up your partitions/filesystem tell the debian installer not to create new filesystems |
| 17:13.44 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 17:14.04 | mentor | lavamind: It may possibly be in the advanced or manual filesystem set up |
| 17:14.27 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:15.16 | *** join/#debian afx_hero (~afx_hero@unaffiliated/afx-hero/x-0829277) |
| 17:15.34 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:15.50 | Th0masR0ss | Can an op banforward blib to ##fix_your_connection? |
| 17:16.06 | *** join/#debian edogawaconan (nanaya@124.116.131.180.tokyo.global.crust-r.net) |
| 17:16.14 | Rockj | alioth.debian.org down? maintenance? |
| 17:16.18 | *** join/#debian dizzylizzy (~aubrey@unaffiliated/aubreyr) |
| 17:16.22 | *** join/#debian StathisA (~StathisA@athedsl-390106.home.otenet.gr) |
| 17:16.28 | *** join/#debian freeminds (~isset___@static.88-198-96-51.clients.your-server.de) |
| 17:16.44 | lavamind | mentor: the installer needs me to define at least one partition for root |
| 17:16.55 | mentor | lavamind: Of course. |
| 17:16.59 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:17.03 | mentor | lavamind: It can be on an existing filesystem |
| 17:17.38 | lavamind | mentor: So I take my existing partition and in the settings : Use as: Ext4 journalling filesystem ? |
| 17:17.57 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo_ (~jo@xdsl-78-34-245-117.netcologne.de) |
| 17:18.04 | *** join/#debian Amandil (~Amandil@AToulon-651-1-229-30.w86-219.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:18.06 | lavamind | there is already an ext4 filesystem on this partition, will the installer detect it or simple overwrite with a new ext4 filesystem |
| 17:18.15 | *** join/#debian moty66 (~chatzilla@host210-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com) |
| 17:18.27 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo (~jo@xdsl-78-34-245-117.netcologne.de) |
| 17:19.02 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:19.39 | lavamind | mentor: whatever I do I get to this dialog : "The following partitions are going to be formatted : partition #1 of Virtual disk 2 (xvdb) as ext4" |
| 17:20.06 | *** join/#debian Protux (~Protux@85.69.115.37) |
| 17:20.19 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:20.45 | edogawaconan | oh sweet, the ARC is there |
| 17:21.48 | *** join/#debian Eax (~Eax@192.38.10.22) |
| 17:22.30 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:22.54 | Eax | Hey there! I am trying to mount /dev/sda2 to a folder in /media/, I want everyone on the system be able read & write from that drive. How can I accomplish this? I think I need to set something in /etc/fstab |
| 17:23.20 | mentor | lavamind: No, you have to tell it not to format it |
| 17:23.41 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:24.48 | *** join/#debian LNShadow (~LNShadow@31.10.116.105) |
| 17:24.50 | *** join/#debian austin987 (~austin@199.21.234.7) |
| 17:24.52 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@d110-32-52-182.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 17:24.55 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:24.56 | lavamind | mentor: I don't see any such option, in the partition settings you have Use as, Mount point, Mount options, Label, Reserved blocks, Typical usage and Bootable flag |
| 17:26.14 | FilipeMaia | Hi. Is there a way to force linux to set the link speed on a sas expander to 3gbps? |
| 17:26.35 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:26.38 | *** join/#debian cjsarette (~AndChat45@67-134-54-115.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 17:27.13 | *** part/#debian moty66 (~chatzilla@host210-138-dinamic.13-31.reteivo.com) |
| 17:28.06 | *** join/#debian classix (salven@silenceisdefeat.com) |
| 17:28.51 | jkamp | Eax: set permissions on the /media/ folder. |
| 17:29.12 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@174.32.161.73) |
| 17:29.15 | *** join/#debian erwin (~erwin@88.234.95.6) |
| 17:29.25 | jkamp | Eax: if you want it WIDE OPEN, chmod 777 /media |
| 17:29.28 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:29.29 | *** join/#debian vrkalak (~vrkalak@108.102.204.219) |
| 17:29.47 | Eax | jkamp: Thanks, trying that :) will it stick after reboot? |
| 17:30.23 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:30.45 | lavamind | mentor: ok I see whats my problem "No filesystem was detected on this partition" |
| 17:30.54 | *** join/#debian Ketsa (~matt@86-185.62-188.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 17:30.56 | mentor | lavamind: Aha |
| 17:31.06 | jkamp | Eax: media will not disappear. it's a permission on the folder |
| 17:31.07 | *** join/#debian dansushi (~dan@ool-45755bf2.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 17:31.11 | nkuttler | Eax: 777 is always wrong |
| 17:31.24 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:31.29 | basiclaser | native traktor on ubuntu/xubuntu/debian? |
| 17:31.35 | Eax | jkamp, thanks :) |
| 17:31.41 | Eax | nkuttler, what do you recommend instead? |
| 17:31.45 | mentor | lavamind: You can jump into the shell and create the filesystem with you own parameters I think, then tell the installer to use that |
| 17:31.45 | lavamind | mentor: is it possible to switch tty's in the debian installer? |
| 17:31.52 | nkuttler | Eax: something else. no idea what your problem is |
| 17:31.52 | mentor | lavamind: yes |
| 17:32.00 | nkuttler | basiclaser: traktor? |
| 17:32.06 | mentor | lavamind: There should be a shell on tty2, I htink |
| 17:32.07 | Eax | nkuttler, want everone on system to be able to read/write to it. |
| 17:32.28 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:32.34 | nkuttler | Eax: add all users to a group, give group +rw |
| 17:32.42 | Eax | ok, thx |
| 17:32.53 | lavamind | mentor: I need to find out how to do it without switching my workstations own tty !! |
| 17:33.12 | *** join/#debian vrkalak (~vrkalak@108.102.204.219) |
| 17:34.12 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:34.50 | *** join/#debian KnownSyntax (~KnownSynt@unaffiliated/knownsyntax) |
| 17:35.29 | *** join/#debian p8m (~p8m@208.82.99.113) |
| 17:35.40 | *** join/#debian vrkalak (~vrkalak@108.102.204.219) |
| 17:36.39 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:38.04 | *** part/#debian Eax (~Eax@192.38.10.22) |
| 17:38.39 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:40.18 | *** join/#debian wu_lmao (~wu_lmao@unaffiliated/wu-lmao/x-9069391) |
| 17:40.30 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:40.52 | *** join/#debian vectr0n_ (~vectr0n@2605:f700:100:414::1ddb:623f) |
| 17:40.53 | *** join/#debian russw (~russ@204.101.167.43) |
| 17:41.41 | *** join/#debian dimitry7 (~antonello@gate.aaamerica.com.mx) |
| 17:42.01 | *** join/#debian sioux_ (bae192f1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.186.225.146.241) |
| 17:42.20 | sioux_ | hi which repo i find the openssl package ? |
| 17:42.42 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:43.08 | *** join/#debian mechanicalduck (~mechanica@37-252-110-16.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 17:43.34 | jkamp | pretty sure openssl is in main. |
| 17:43.46 | jkamp | it's kind of a big deal. |
| 17:43.47 | *** join/#debian Spr1ng (~Spr1ng@unaffiliated/spr1ng) |
| 17:44.01 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:44.08 | *** join/#debian _zerick_ (~eocrospom@190.187.21.53) |
| 17:44.12 | Spr1ng | Where is the cron log file located? |
| 17:44.56 | Sevet_ | Spr1ng: cron logs to syslog, script output goes to mail |
| 17:45.02 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:45.04 | *** join/#debian vectr0n|znc (~vectr0n@unaffiliated/vectr0n) |
| 17:45.11 | *** join/#debian andatche (~andatche@mule.andatche.com) |
| 17:45.18 | *** join/#debian ineedarobot (~ineedarob@cpc3-walt12-2-0-cust6.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:45.53 | sioux_ | jkamp: i can find.. i run this: #aptitude search openssl .. i try too #aptitude search openssl* |
| 17:46.06 | *** join/#debian ctmjr (~chuck@pdpc/supporter/active/ctmjr) |
| 17:46.09 | *** join/#debian ctmjr_ (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 17:46.15 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:46.27 | nkuttler | sioux_: apt-cache search openssl | wc -l -> 99 |
| 17:46.28 | *** join/#debian ctmjr__ (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 17:46.53 | nkuttler | ,v openssl |
| 17:46.54 | judd | Package: openssl on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; squeeze-security: 0.9.8o-4squeeze14; wheezy: 1.0.1e-2; jessie: 1.0.1e-3; sid: 1.0.1e-3 |
| 17:47.03 | sioux_ | root@srv-gwop:~# apt-cache search openssl | wc -l -> 99 root@srv-gwop:~# |
| 17:47.17 | sioux_ | i'm using Debian Wheezy 64bits |
| 17:47.23 | sioux_ | i will put my sources.lst |
| 17:47.26 | jkamp | sioux_: the package is just called openssl. "Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related cryptographic tools" |
| 17:47.27 | sioux_ | wait a minut |
| 17:47.51 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@client-86-29-56-56.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:47.51 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Matrix@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 17:48.02 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:48.27 | sioux_ | http://pastebin.com/UyKgkP8E |
| 17:48.40 | sioux_ | this is my sources.list |
| 17:48.54 | nkuttler | sioux_: use paste.debian.net |
| 17:49.03 | nkuttler | !tell sioux_ about wheezy sources.list |
| 17:49.06 | nkuttler | and see the bot msg |
| 17:49.18 | *** join/#debian chrob (~christoph@chello080108185051.1.12.vie.surfer.at) |
| 17:50.03 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:50.11 | sioux_ | nkuttler: so can't i put non-free is same line |
| 17:50.16 | sioux_ | *in |
| 17:50.20 | sioux_ | ? |
| 17:50.22 | nkuttler | hm? |
| 17:50.31 | sioux_ | nkuttler: i will use paste.debian.net |
| 17:51.04 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:52.07 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:53.03 | *** join/#debian dansushi (~dan@ool-45755bf2.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 17:53.05 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:53.30 | *** join/#debian codename47_ (~halim@93-82-139-165.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 17:54.34 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.140.171.247) |
| 17:54.57 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:57.25 | *** join/#debian tekkbuzz (~oijvlj@unaffiliated/tekkbuzz) |
| 17:57.40 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 17:57.45 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-213-33.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 17:58.51 | sioux_ | nkuttler: thanks guy |
| 17:59.03 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:00.04 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:01.05 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:01.07 | *** join/#debian l4sh (~l4sh@unaffiliated/l4sh) |
| 18:01.46 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@p5481CB88.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:01.51 | *** join/#debian MaxLanar (~user@80.215.52.126) |
| 18:02.01 | *** part/#debian nell (~nail@pool-173-79-34-40.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 18:02.03 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:02.44 | *** join/#debian freeminds (~isset___@static.88-198-96-52.clients.your-server.de) |
| 18:02.49 | *** join/#debian edgar-rft (~GOD@HSI-KBW-149-172-63-75.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 18:03.15 | *** join/#debian `DiM (~ip8@ruirc.com) |
| 18:03.38 | *** join/#debian BitPuffin (~quassel@s193-13-104-175.cust.tele2.se) |
| 18:04.12 | *** join/#debian beboj_ (~beboj@nl6x.mullvad.net) |
| 18:04.29 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:05.19 | *** join/#debian _BJFreeman (~bjfree@82.sub-75-233-230.myvzw.com) |
| 18:05.32 | *** join/#debian Moredread (~moredread@www.apb.name) |
| 18:05.46 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:06.00 | *** join/#debian mlubin (~mlubin@muckley-five-o-three.mit.edu) |
| 18:06.08 | *** join/#debian mlubin (~mlubin@unaffiliated/mlubin) |
| 18:06.11 | *** part/#debian mlubin (~mlubin@unaffiliated/mlubin) |
| 18:06.49 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:07.09 | *** join/#debian bitwave (~bitwave@97.67.160.84) |
| 18:07.18 | *** join/#debian nullby7e (~null@unaffiliated/nullby7e) |
| 18:08.16 | *** join/#debian chrob (~christoph@chello080108185051.1.12.vie.surfer.at) |
| 18:08.30 | *** join/#debian amgarching (~amgarchin@p4FD6283D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:09.01 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:09.51 | *** join/#debian LNShadow (~LNShadow@31.10.116.105) |
| 18:10.08 | *** join/#debian ctmjr (~chuck@pdpc/supporter/active/ctmjr) |
| 18:10.31 | *** join/#debian dimaursu16 (~dimon@188.138.180.180) |
| 18:10.40 | lavamind | mentor: whatever I do, it says that no filesystem is detected on the partition |
| 18:10.43 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:10.45 | *** join/#debian ctmjr_ (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:10.47 | *** part/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 18:10.50 | *** join/#debian ctmjr__ (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:10.57 | lavamind | but if I go to a shell I can mount it and everything.... |
| 18:11.11 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 18:11.55 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:12.29 | *** join/#debian Deniska_80 (~Deniska_8@109-161-90-202.pppoe.yaroslavl.ru) |
| 18:12.44 | *** part/#debian Deniska_80 (~Deniska_8@109-161-90-202.pppoe.yaroslavl.ru) |
| 18:12.53 | *** join/#debian nosuid (~nosuid@unaffiliated/nosuid) |
| 18:13.05 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:13.37 | *** join/#debian damentz_ (~damentz@cpe-66-68-124-183.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 18:14.05 | *** join/#debian dansushi (~dan@ool-45755bf2.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 18:15.10 | *** join/#debian Deniska_80 (~Deniska_8@109-161-90-202.pppoe.yaroslavl.ru) |
| 18:15.33 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:16.27 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 18:16.41 | *** part/#debian Deniska_80 (~Deniska_8@109-161-90-202.pppoe.yaroslavl.ru) |
| 18:17.16 | *** join/#debian ctmjr___ (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:17.38 | *** join/#debian asterismo (~asterismo@r186-55-123-163.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 18:18.03 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:19.08 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:19.14 | *** join/#debian pzn (~pzn@187.23.84.230) |
| 18:19.14 | *** join/#debian pzn (~pzn@pdpc/supporter/active/pzn) |
| 18:19.43 | *** part/#debian ctmjr___ (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:20.04 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:20.06 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:20.35 | *** join/#debian r00tN (~r00t@185.2.12.155) |
| 18:20.39 | *** join/#debian badkid_ (~badkid___@static-66-11-72-27.ptr.terago.net) |
| 18:21.07 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:21.07 | *** join/#debian badkid__ (~badkid___@204.50.148.9) |
| 18:21.09 | *** join/#debian ctmjr___ (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:21.14 | *** join/#debian Bronze (~Mark@unaffiliated/bronze) |
| 18:21.18 | *** join/#debian Omnibrain (~Omnibrain@unaffiliated/omnibrain) |
| 18:22.23 | *** join/#debian tremon (~aschuring@d594e6a3.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 18:23.25 | *** join/#debian nosuid (~nosuid@unaffiliated/nosuid) |
| 18:23.43 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:24.58 | *** join/#debian ctmjr (~chuck@pdpc/supporter/active/ctmjr) |
| 18:25.00 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 18:25.12 | ImaLamer_ | sioux_: you can put non-free on some lines if that site has non-free sources |
| 18:25.20 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@h136n4-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 18:25.31 | sioux_ | ImaLamer_: ok.. |
| 18:25.39 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:27.06 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:27.22 | *** join/#debian Ergo^ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 18:28.01 | *** join/#debian internat (~nf@60-241-102-25.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 18:28.04 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:28.40 | *** join/#debian th0r (~Thor@24-106-210-67.bhisland.com) |
| 18:29.02 | *** join/#debian Omnibrain (~Omnibrain@unaffiliated/omnibrain) |
| 18:29.17 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@77.28.16.5) |
| 18:29.41 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@unaffiliated/t3oss) |
| 18:29.41 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@unaffiliated/nodiscc) |
| 18:29.46 | *** join/#debian thorsten_t_ge (~thorsten@p57A7B849.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1293] by debhelper |
| 18:30.02 | *** join/#debian abchirk__ (~abchirk@g231206139.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 18:30.08 | *** join/#debian cjsarette (~AndChat45@67-134-54-115.dia.static.qwest.net) |
| 18:30.11 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@174.32.161.73) |
| 18:30.31 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:30.37 | Bronze | Does anyone know if the debian usb-hdd *-* .img files are the same things as .iso files? |
| 18:30.42 | *** join/#debian oliveiraev (~Evandro@189-38-254-25.static-corp.ajato.com.br) |
| 18:31.03 | *** join/#debian Sambler (~OKASO@unaffiliated/sambler) |
| 18:31.09 | Bronze | I'm trying to create a bootable USB drive (8GB) that uses the rntire usb drive for persistence. |
| 18:31.21 | Bronze | This paghe has some instruction on how to do that http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/133-general-linux/420179-creating-a-debian-live-usb-flash-drive-with-persistence-for-non-techies |
| 18:31.30 | Bronze | *instructions |
| 18:31.44 | Bronze | but they use a ".img" file, not an iso. |
| 18:31.48 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host52-231-static.242-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 18:31.59 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:32.09 | Bronze | and debian.,org doesn't have the img files anymoere |
| 18:33.00 | *** join/#debian slv (~silvermec@209-6-88-237.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 18:33.13 | Th0masR0ss | Bronze: cp /path/to/debian.iso /dev/sdb #<- NOTE THE LACK OF THE 1 |
| 18:33.15 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:33.32 | *** join/#debian ctmjr (~chuck@c-68-32-113-252.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 18:33.32 | *** join/#debian ctmjr (~chuck@pdpc/supporter/active/ctmjr) |
| 18:33.32 | ImaLamer_ | Bronze: it's all convertable - and not being the expert, i'd say you just have an extra step of making an img file |
| 18:33.39 | ImaLamer_ | (though not likely0 |
| 18:34.21 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:34.37 | Bronze | OK. I'll try the cp to the raw device. |
| 18:35.04 | Bronze | do you think that will be bootable? |
| 18:35.14 | Th0masR0ss | It will be bootable. |
| 18:35.27 | Bronze | rawsome! |
| 18:35.36 | Bronze | thank you |
| 18:35.45 | Th0masR0ss | Ops: blib still sendq'ing out, quite irritating |
| 18:36.15 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:36.27 | *** join/#debian LNShadow (~LNShadow@31.10.116.105) |
| 18:37.05 | *** join/#debian biggi_mat (~biggi_mat@89-212-177-1.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 18:37.48 | *** join/#debian SM0TVI-2 (kvirc@unaffiliated/sm0tvi) |
| 18:37.58 | VsioZashibis | hi. how can i get russian characters to display when i open them in vi ? |
| 18:38.06 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:38.23 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:38.26 | *** join/#debian brolin_empey_ (~brolin@brolin.be) |
| 18:38.43 | Th0masR0ss | VsioZashibis: are you using X? |
| 18:38.54 | VsioZashibis | Th0masR0ss: no, just command line |
| 18:39.07 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-213-33.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 18:39.08 | *** join/#debian caravel (~caravel@83.230.147.44) |
| 18:39.17 | Th0masR0ss | VsioZashibis: so you're not using a terminal emulator? |
| 18:39.28 | *** join/#debian johnfg (johnfg@host-184-166-136-254.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net) |
| 18:39.30 | *** join/#debian nf0 (~nf0@saintpeter.texasstatebank.net) |
| 18:39.34 | tremon | VsioZashibis: do they display correctly in less? |
| 18:39.40 | *** join/#debian ockomock (~ockomock@81-224-64-213-no51.business.telia.com) |
| 18:39.49 | johnfg | how can i fix whatever is causing this error on wheezy? http://bpaste.net/show/Q7QxjqRhv3kFyeooubiJ/ |
| 18:39.50 | Bronze | oo! cyrilic font support in a terminal? kinky. |
| 18:39.50 | VsioZashibis | I use putty to ssh into a hsot |
| 18:39.53 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:39.59 | VsioZashibis | tremon: let me try |
| 18:40.10 | *** part/#debian ockomock (~ockomock@81-224-64-213-no51.business.telia.com) |
| 18:40.12 | *** join/#debian Kaboon (~Kaboon@524A5520.cm-4-3b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 18:40.13 | VsioZashibis | no same thing in less |
| 18:40.16 | *** join/#debian raptor67682 (~raptor676@unaffiliated/raptor67682) |
| 18:40.21 | tremon | ok, so it's not a vi problem :) |
| 18:40.23 | *** join/#debian DrOwl (~drowl@n36l.23.me.uk) |
| 18:40.30 | *** join/#debian beboj_ (~beboj@nl6x.mullvad.net) |
| 18:40.32 | Bronze | need aterminal setting that supports the char set |
| 18:40.45 | Th0masR0ss | VsioZashibis: do they display correctly in windows? |
| 18:40.47 | *** join/#debian ecube (~ecube@unaffiliated/ecube) |
| 18:40.50 | VsioZashibis | windows yep |
| 18:40.52 | tremon | Bronze: he needs a terminal that supports the char sets ;) |
| 18:41.01 | *** join/#debian rvncerr (~rvncerr@unaffiliated/rvncerr) |
| 18:41.09 | Th0masR0ss | VsioZashibis: looks like a PuTTY problem |
| 18:41.20 | Bronze | tremon: Ja! |
| 18:41.28 | *** join/#debian Gerben (~Gerben@62.132.92.10) |
| 18:41.40 | tremon | 1) check your language settings (most probably the LANG ends with UTF-8 2) make sure putty is set to utf-8 |
| 18:41.43 | VsioZashibis | so no such thing in xterm |
| 18:41.46 | *** join/#debian wakd (~wakd@124-149-163-76.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 18:41.48 | *** join/#debian andatche (~andatche@mule.andatche.com) |
| 18:41.55 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:42.06 | tremon | there is in xterm, but putty != xterm |
| 18:42.22 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@78.186.152.96) |
| 18:42.44 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 18:42.55 | *** join/#debian sooraj (~Thunderbi@14.96.75.58) |
| 18:43.14 | *** part/#debian sooraj (~Thunderbi@14.96.75.58) |
| 18:43.22 | *** join/#debian andatche (~andatche@mule.andatche.com) |
| 18:43.28 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:43.35 | tremon | you also must make sure your TERM setting is set to linux, I'm not sure other terminal modes support multibyte characters (although xterm should probably be fine). Lastly, I'm not sure putty supports non-english text at all |
| 18:44.06 | *** join/#debian crus (~crusader@2001:44b8:319e:2900:f00d:c985:10c3:38b4) |
| 18:45.21 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:45.38 | *** join/#debian vladuke (~vladuke@178.130.42.7) |
| 18:47.06 | *** join/#debian vladuke (~vladuke@178.130.42.7) |
| 18:47.24 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:47.26 | VsioZashibis | guys |
| 18:47.28 | VsioZashibis | thanks it worked |
| 18:47.30 | VsioZashibis | thanks so much ! |
| 18:47.38 | *** part/#debian HardlySeen (~HardlySee@unaffiliated/gatheringknowleg) |
| 18:47.59 | *** join/#debian the_fallen (~the_falle@75.92.24.248) |
| 18:48.18 | Th0masR0ss | Is there any way I can "rebuild" my /usr/share/applications directory? |
| 18:48.24 | *** join/#debian th0r (~Thor@24-106-210-67.bhisland.com) |
| 18:48.50 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-92-204-6.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 18:49.24 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:49.55 | *** join/#debian xGhost (~x-treme@unaffiliated/x-treme) |
| 18:50.43 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: what's "rebuild"? those files should never be touched by anything but their owning package |
| 18:51.00 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:51.43 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: regenerate, make all the packages regenerate their *.desktop files? |
| 18:53.36 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~DARKICEPT@a79-168-154-69.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 18:53.57 | *** join/#debian blib (~kp@c-68-63-76-78.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 18:54.16 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe2 (~havoc@sd440645e.adsl.online.nl) |
| 18:55.00 | sioux_ | hi i'm trying compile squid 3.3.8 in debian wheezy with this option |
| 18:56.16 | tremon | I'm not sure these files are generated. Anyway, here's a hammer: for file in $(find /usr/share/applications/ -type f) ; do echo apt-get --reinstall install $(dpkg -S "$file" | sed -e 's/:.*//') ; done |
| 18:56.37 | tremon | without the echo of course |
| 18:57.12 | sioux_ | hi i'm trying compile squid 3.3.8 in debian wheezy with this option http://pastebin.com/cak1tcsm (i paste here because have only 2 lines, and paste.debian.net denied 2 lines) |
| 18:57.26 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: mk. What about missing .desktop files? |
| 18:57.59 | sioux_ | and show this error http://paste.debian.net/21707 |
| 18:58.22 | *** join/#debian Xanthor (~Xanthor@ip-173.net-81-220-233.bruay.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 18:58.24 | phogg | it would be hard to know for a missing one whether one should exist, but apt-file search .desktop could help |
| 18:58.35 | *** join/#debian jklaz (~jklaz@46.12.138.114.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 18:58.46 | tremon | good question. Maybe grep /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list |
| 18:59.06 | *** join/#debian pablo (~pablo@freeshell.de) |
| 18:59.06 | tremon | that's a better solution that using find |
| 18:59.19 | *** join/#debian deanrock0 (~deankde@cpe-77.38.57.189.cable.t-1.si) |
| 18:59.27 | *** join/#debian ElDiabolo (~jo@xdsl-87-79-165-49.netcologne.de) |
| 19:00.17 | *** join/#debian sevenone (~seventh@p5085212F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:00.31 | pablo | is there any policy about waht can be packaged under non-free repo? does it needs to be only software which source code is distributed or closed source software can allso be packaged? |
| 19:00.48 | *** part/#debian johnfg (johnfg@host-184-166-136-254.bzm-mt.client.bresnan.net) |
| 19:02.31 | jelly-home | pablo: there are a couple of binary-only bits in non-free, like nvidia drivers |
| 19:03.29 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: slightly less blunt hammer: for file in $(grep -l /usr/share/applications /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list ) ; do echo apt-get --reinstall install $(basename "$file" .list) ; done |
| 19:03.44 | pablo | jelly-home: if I want to package citrix receiver, may that be added to non-free repo? |
| 19:04.14 | jelly-home | pablo: if citrix says it's freely redistributable, perhaps |
| 19:04.57 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 19:04.57 | jelly-home | bonus if it adds functionality to some otherwise free piece of software in debian already |
| 19:05.08 | jelly-home | (like rar does) |
| 19:05.17 | phogg | are *.info files for a package always removed when the package is removed? |
| 19:05.20 | *** join/#debian FriendlyFascist (~FriendlyF@S010608863b327591.wp.shawcable.net) |
| 19:05.35 | phogg | if not then the above solution could operate on a package no longer installed |
| 19:05.47 | tremon | nope, only when it is purged I believe. but --reinstall fails if a package isn't installed iirc |
| 19:05.57 | phogg | hmm, good enough then |
| 19:06.05 | tremon | it's worth to double check though :) |
| 19:06.43 | *** join/#debian freeminds (~isset___@static-ip-188-138-39-17.inaddr.ip-pool.com) |
| 19:07.03 | phogg | in the worst case you can filter out uninstalled on a pipe |
| 19:08.45 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.148.197.134) |
| 19:08.55 | *** join/#debian pc_magas (~pc_magas@ppp-94-68-225-186.home.otenet.gr) |
| 19:08.58 | *** join/#debian cyan0hack (~cyan0hack@cpc1-camd13-2-0-cust50.hari.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:09.44 | jelly-home | phogg: what *.info files? |
| 19:10.24 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1734.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 19:10.32 | tremon | info/*.list :) |
| 19:10.46 | *** join/#debian MichaelC|Percona (~michael.c@cpe-173-095-174-189.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 19:11.19 | jelly-home | oh, there's no need to grep those when there's dpkg -S /usr/share/applications |
| 19:11.48 | *** part/#debian Gunni (~gunni@kjarni/gunni) |
| 19:11.58 | tremon | lol, that's where we started. But it was pointed out that the dpkg -S doesn't work for deleted .desktop files |
| 19:12.03 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-92-204-6.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 19:12.21 | tremon | and tbh I prefer 1 grep process over a find process + dpkg -S per found file |
| 19:12.53 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: thanks |
| 19:13.18 | mentor | lavamind: Get anywhere? |
| 19:13.24 | tremon | (I know, it does work if you know the exact path to the deleted .desktop file -- but find won't tell you those) |
| 19:13.37 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 19:13.42 | lavamind | mentor: yes I succeeded, I used the Execute shell function in the installer |
| 19:13.51 | mentor | Aha |
| 19:14.04 | lavamind | thanks for your help |
| 19:14.10 | *** join/#debian jklaz (~jklaz@46.12.138.114.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 19:14.12 | *** join/#debian jpo (~jpo@unaffiliated/jpo) |
| 19:14.40 | Jckf | Is it possible to use packages from Sid without the repo being used when issuing upgrade/dist-upgrade? |
| 19:15.14 | Jckf | Backports does this somehow I think |
| 19:15.46 | mentor | No worries |
| 19:16.00 | tremon | it's called apt pinning, see man apt_preferences. Short version: use apt::default-release |
| 19:16.40 | tremon | !tell Jckf about pinning |
| 19:17.22 | Jckf | Thank you, tremon =) |
| 19:19.11 | *** join/#debian nosuid (~nosuid@unaffiliated/nosuid) |
| 19:19.16 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@99.148.203.185) |
| 19:19.18 | sioux_ | hi i'm trying compile squid 3.3.8 in debian wheezy with this option http://pastebin.com/cak1tcsm (i paste here because have only 2 lines and paste.debian.net denied 2 lines) and show this error http://paste.debian.net/21707 |
| 19:20.14 | *** join/#debian codesoup (~codesoup@69-165-145-211.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 19:20.19 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 19:20.56 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 19:21.08 | *** join/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 19:22.45 | *** part/#debian sevenone (~seventh@p5085212F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:22.53 | mentor | sioux_: You need to install the build depends? |
| 19:22.55 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 19:23.02 | *** join/#debian xzgv (~macondo@190.218.28.52) |
| 19:23.19 | *** join/#debian oliveiraev (~Evandro@177.141.170.231) |
| 19:23.41 | Th0masR0ss | Ctrl alt f7 after ctrl alt f1 doesn't bring me back to X. |
| 19:23.52 | jarray52 | I'm trying to use synergy with local port forwarding. I tried running `ssh -L 24800:localhost:24800 username@localipaddress` Then, I ran quicksynergy which states that it cannot listen for clients since the bind address is already in use. Any suggestions? |
| 19:24.53 | *** join/#debian angeldeath (~angeldeat@201.210.1.210) |
| 19:25.02 | *** join/#debian cyrano (~cyrano@net-93-144-195-188.cust.dsl.teletu.it) |
| 19:25.20 | xzgv | hi, using wheezy, i have: xterm & - in my .xinitrc which launches xterm as soon as i enter the X system. What do i have to add to this line so it goes into virtual desktop #2? |
| 19:26.07 | *** join/#debian Pendrag0n (~jlee@pool-173-66-212-46.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:26.31 | phogg | xzgv: you can probably pass -display, man X for usage |
| 19:26.45 | Pendrag0n | in aptitude, I know the far left column, "i" means it has been installed, and "p" means it has not been, what does the "v" mean? |
| 19:27.01 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: try f8-f12, X tends to hop around between restarts |
| 19:27.09 | *** join/#debian greynix (~greynix@ip-46-73-136-89.bb.netbynet.ru) |
| 19:27.09 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy_ (~LinuxGuy9@207.71.33.174) |
| 19:27.11 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: already did that |
| 19:27.19 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.226.49) |
| 19:27.20 | tremon | you didn't say so :) |
| 19:27.20 | lasers | Pendrag0n: virtual |
| 19:27.27 | xzgv | phogg, thank you |
| 19:27.47 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: did it after I wrote the question. |
| 19:28.09 | tremon | jarray52: where are you starting synergy, local or remote? |
| 19:28.22 | Pendrag0n | lasers: Thanks, mind explaining a tiny bit? |
| 19:28.22 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: also ctrl alt f2 afterwards doesn't bring me to a new virtual terminal |
| 19:28.44 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: so your machine is just frozen, or does it respond to some commands? |
| 19:28.56 | Walex | xzgv: '-display' is an X11-level thing. Virtual desktops are a window-manager level thing. You need to configure your window manager to bring the new 'xterm' to virtual desktop 2. |
| 19:29.11 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 19:29.12 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: I can use the terminal fine. |
| 19:29.33 | *** join/#debian xenol (~xenol@2a01:8c00:ff48:56df::8f78) |
| 19:29.39 | lasers | Pendrag0n: It points to something. It could point to a group of packages. "ssh" is an example. |
| 19:30.19 | *** join/#debian guest787878 (~guest7878@c-50-134-136-58.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 19:30.25 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: weird. If you switch to f7, does the screen turn black? or is it just ignoring your keypress and remaining on vt1? |
| 19:30.40 | xenol | Hi, I would like to obtain hostname from DHCP. What is the preferred way? If there is some standard way how to set it, it would be appreciated. I find dhclient posthooks a bit hacky.. |
| 19:30.50 | tremon | and when you're on vt1, can you switch to vt2 fine? |
| 19:30.54 | sioux_ | menot: which? |
| 19:31.12 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: it ignores the key press and returns on tty1 |
| 19:31.20 | lasers | Pendrag0n: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-binary.html (See 3.6) |
| 19:31.24 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: no I cannot switch to any ttys |
| 19:31.46 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@cty37-1-78-214-92-19.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:31.56 | tremon | xenol: request host-name, and configure your dhcp server to actually send a hostname |
| 19:32.18 | *** join/#debian vi390 (~v482@unaffiliated/vi390) |
| 19:32.26 | *** join/#debian beepie (~swlake@modemcable084.5-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 19:33.02 | xenol | tremon: request host-name is default in dhclient.conf (I commented out send part). DHCP server is sending it as required (works on CentOS boxes) |
| 19:33.13 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: can you paste the output of ps a? |
| 19:33.33 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: uh. Just switched off the computer sadly. |
| 19:33.37 | Th0masR0ss | Sec |
| 19:33.44 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.187.199) |
| 19:33.56 | xzgv | Walex, i'm googling as we speak (using ratpoison) |
| 19:34.13 | xzgv | Walex, thank you |
| 19:34.26 | vi390 | hi , having sort of problem after "upgrading" a server. A django project seems not to get around with the installed systemwide new python version. I want to set a systemwide default for using the old python version instead. Is that best done in the shell? Or are there other things to consider? |
| 19:34.36 | tremon | xenol: ok, you can read the code in /sbin/dhclient-script. It only sets the hostname if the current hostname is unset, or is localhost. If you have a value set in /etc/hostname, dhclient will not override it |
| 19:34.46 | *** join/#debian basic6_ (~basic6@p549A019C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:35.01 | tremon | err, scratch that |
| 19:35.08 | vi390 | with "in the shell" i mean setting path to the old python there |
| 19:35.12 | tremon | if [ "$new_host_name" != "$old_host_name" ]; |
| 19:35.20 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: no Internet. |
| 19:35.41 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: well, can you see programs running on tty1-7? |
| 19:35.49 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: only 1-6 |
| 19:35.57 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: er 2-6 |
| 19:36.33 | tremon | are they all getty's or is there an X server as well? |
| 19:37.09 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: there is an Xorg :0. All the ttys are from Getty |
| 19:37.23 | *** join/#debian Danishman (~kvirc@62-243-156-218-static.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 19:37.35 | tremon | to what tty is the Xorg process bound? |
| 19:37.46 | xenol | tremon: hmm, domain is not set correctly |
| 19:37.56 | jarray52 | tremon: I asked at ssh, and someone pointed out that I was tunnelling in the wrong direction. I have synergy working now. |
| 19:37.58 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: 7 |
| 19:38.00 | xenol | tremon: actually it isn't set at all |
| 19:38.10 | tremon | xenol: at this point, I would add set -x ; exec > /tmp/dhclient.trace to the top of dhclient-script, and renew the dhclient lease |
| 19:38.22 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: its actually got "vt7" as the last argument |
| 19:38.37 | tremon | according to the dhclient-script, it should set the hostname every time it is called |
| 19:38.58 | *** join/#debian machduck (~~@z24-runnet.guap.ru) |
| 19:38.58 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: what does it say in the second column? |
| 19:39.11 | *** join/#debian Losowski (~Galicja@176.122.215.241) |
| 19:39.53 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: the line is "/usr/bin/Xorg :0 -br -verbose -novtswitch -auth /var/run/gdm3/auth-for-Debian/gdm-rKhzAS/database -nolisten tcp vt7 |
| 19:40.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1301] by debhelper |
| 19:40.04 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: second column is tty7 |
| 19:40.19 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: yes, I just noticed you saying "7" ten lines above |
| 19:40.33 | xenol | tremon: good tip. thanks. |
| 19:41.00 | tremon | ok, so the getty's are running and so is X, but you cannot switch to any console other than vt1? |
| 19:41.28 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: correct |
| 19:41.40 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: ^^ and if you switch to another console and then back to tty1, that console still works fine? I have no idea what to make of that |
| 19:41.47 | tremon | :( |
| 19:41.47 | *** join/#debian JotaK (~OMG@unaffiliated/jotak) |
| 19:41.56 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: I cannot switch to another terminal |
| 19:42.17 | tremon | there is nothing "special" about consoles tty2-tty6, if a getty is running they should just work |
| 19:42.24 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 19:42.59 | tremon | (and if no getty is running on a console, you should still see a blinking cursor in the left upper corner) |
| 19:43.14 | aguitel | where i can read to make minimal debian install ? |
| 19:43.36 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: ctrl alt f2 just leaves me on tty1 |
| 19:43.51 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: ah |
| 19:44.00 | tremon | now that I can make something of |
| 19:44.00 | mumpitzel | aguitel: take a netinst iso, install it and don't install anything at the end when tasksel pops up. done |
| 19:44.19 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: sorry, I complete misunderstood you |
| 19:44.20 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: so does all the other ctrl alt f1-12 |
| 19:44.28 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: no problem |
| 19:44.35 | aguitel | mumpitzel, and to install minimal x ? |
| 19:45.19 | jhutchins | Th0masR0ss: Without reading the whole scrollbuffer, this sounds like single user mode. |
| 19:45.31 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: I think you need to re-run the keyboard configuration (dpkg-reconfigure console-setup), I guess you have selected a layout where the ctrl or alt keys have been remapped. That would also explain why you can switch out of X, but not back |
| 19:45.44 | *** join/#debian jskinner (~jskinner@69.170.148.179) |
| 19:45.50 | mumpitzel | aguitel: install xorg |
| 19:45.56 | *** join/#debian f4cl3y (~f4cl3y@unaffiliated/f4cl3y) |
| 19:46.03 | *** join/#debian Noskcaj (~Noskcaj@ubuntu/member/noskcaj) |
| 19:46.07 | *** join/#debian rigid (~rigid@unaffiliated/rigid) |
| 19:46.13 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: in short, dpkg says console-data is not installed. |
| 19:46.18 | rigid | ahoy |
| 19:46.20 | aguitel | mumpitzel, ok |
| 19:46.27 | tremon | jhutchins: was my first guess too, but he does have six getty's running |
| 19:47.05 | jhutchins | tremon: So the switching's not working for some reason. |
| 19:47.22 | tremon | jhutchins: yes |
| 19:47.26 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: anything special on your kernel command line that could affect keyboard layout? |
| 19:47.41 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: such as? |
| 19:47.45 | rigid | i'm using dpkg-buildpackage to build a .deb from my autotools project. Now I want to create a -dbg package. Is it better to use one control file for all .debs? (lib.deb, lib-dev.deb, lib-dbg.deb) or do I need 2 seperate control files? |
| 19:48.09 | tremon | anything other than quiet splash root= :) |
| 19:48.27 | rigid | I can't seem to find a detailed documentation on the control file |
| 19:48.36 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: in the grub command startup thingy? |
| 19:48.48 | tremon | yes, but also cat /proc/cmdline |
| 19:49.48 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: "set root='(hd0,msdos1)' |
| 19:50.09 | *** join/#debian dougmencken (~powermac@unaffiliated/dougmencken) |
| 19:50.11 | tremon | I have a hard time believing that |
| 19:50.16 | tremon | 's what's in /proc/cmdline :) |
| 19:50.21 | *** join/#debian HumbleBIOS (~HumbleBIO@222-154-182-177.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 19:50.23 | HumbleBIOS | Turns out debian 7.0 has bugs major ones -_- what a shame, debian usually check their stuff properly before they release something as a stable build! What are you doing guys! Poor poor #debian |
| 19:50.24 | tremon | I would still suggest you properly install console-setup, it's not large and at least we can rule out keyboard misconfiguration/misdetection |
| 19:50.36 | *** join/#debian isidorito (aafcf8c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.170.252.248.200) |
| 19:50.36 | dougmencken | hi guys, I'm still trying to find the wrong commit |
| 19:50.40 | *** join/#debian Chex (~Chex@soho.northnook.ca) |
| 19:50.41 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: "e077034d8353 ro quiet" also |
| 19:50.42 | *** part/#debian isidorito (aafcf8c8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.170.252.248.200) |
| 19:50.50 | dougmencken | I'm about http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=713943 |
| 19:51.01 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: sec |
| 19:51.37 | *** join/#debian Vasistha (~david@unaffiliated/vasistha) |
| 19:52.51 | dougmencken | coz I'm trying to build kernel (between 3.2 and 3.9, do you have it?) by myself (it is the only way, nobody want to help me with that), I have a question: what I did wrong (uploading picture) |
| 19:53.17 | tremon | wonders if a windfarm is a place where they use wind to grow electricity, or where they use electricity to grow wind |
| 19:53.38 | dougmencken | http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4657/zwb.png |
| 19:53.49 | *** join/#debian Ergo^_ (~ergo@hyp-p-107.pabianice.msk.pl) |
| 19:53.51 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: at dpkg-reconfigure console-data |
| 19:54.28 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: select key map from arch list, don't touch key map, keep kernel key map, select key map from full list |
| 19:54.29 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 19:54.33 | dougmencken | tremon: windfarm is a driver which control a lot of fans in G5 desktop systems |
| 19:54.50 | *** join/#debian calisto (~calisto@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 19:55.15 | *** join/#debian debsan (~debsan@244-79-245-190.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 19:55.16 | tremon | dougmencken: that would suggest a kernel or compilation bug; I have zero experience with G5, but if this is your first custom kernel, you need to review your process/compilation settings |
| 19:55.17 | rigid | oh, i mean rules file... not control file |
| 19:55.47 | dougmencken | why does make-kpkg make un-bootable kernels? |
| 19:55.58 | tremon | dougmencken: if you have already succesfully compiled a few, it's probably a kernel bug. Very nice for bisections :) |
| 19:56.02 | dougmencken | tremon: in fact, I know the problem: Elf32 |
| 19:56.10 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 19:56.23 | dougmencken | tremon: 64-bit machine *cannot* load 32-bit kernels! |
| 19:56.45 | *** join/#debian msn (~msn@50.21.175.33) |
| 19:56.52 | dougmencken | it is natural for 64-bit machine (exception: x86, i.e. 8086, 80286, 8038, 80486, ...) |
| 19:56.54 | tremon | did you compile a 64-bit kernel (i.e. ppc64), or 32 bit? |
| 19:57.12 | dougmencken | tremon: I did menuconfig, and I used make-kpkg |
| 19:57.20 | dougmencken | of course, I chose ppc64! |
| 19:57.32 | mumpitzel | dougmencken: of course. anx amd64 machine can load 32bit kernels. all of them can |
| 19:57.39 | mumpitzel | *any |
| 19:57.54 | *** join/#debian mao (~weechat@81.24.91.213) |
| 19:57.56 | *** join/#debian Perdu (~Perdu@213-245-89-190.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 19:58.08 | dougmencken | mumpitzel: heh, it is an exception, just to run old windoze on those new machines |
| 19:58.09 | *** join/#debian raSter^ (raster@192.249.57.8) |
| 19:58.29 | Vasistha | mumpitzel: an amd64 machine loading an i386 kernel is limited to 4 GB ram, right? |
| 19:59.09 | dougmencken | is there any debian kernel archive for 3.5-3.7? |
| 19:59.10 | tremon | wrong |
| 19:59.16 | *** join/#debian Katafalkas (~Katafalka@78.60.170.249) |
| 19:59.18 | mumpitzel | Vasistha: no. it can still use PAE.which is a kludge but can use more than 4GB. just ~3GB per process however. and some speed loss |
| 19:59.54 | mumpitzel | dougmencken: afaik no. but you are welcome to look: snapshot.debian.org |
| 19:59.54 | dougmencken | it is crazy to switch from 3.2 to 3.9 just in one step, I'm sure you have intermediate kernels |
| 19:59.56 | Vasistha | mumpitzel: oh! thanks for that tip :) |
| 20:00.07 | dougmencken | mumpitzel: ok |
| 20:00.08 | tremon | dougmencken: make-kpkg is obsolete nowadays, I'd point you to http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ but it seems down now |
| 20:00.12 | *** join/#debian f4cl3y (~f4cl3y@unaffiliated/f4cl3y) |
| 20:00.35 | dougmencken | tremon: obsolete? how do debian guys build their kernels then? |
| 20:01.22 | dougmencken | yep, it is down |
| 20:01.36 | *** join/#debian gwizdek (~Piotr@184.75.212.154) |
| 20:01.51 | HumbleBIOS | Debian 7.0 turned out to be a failure ;( most providers for vps |
| 20:01.59 | HumbleBIOS | for vps's * stick to 6.0 :S |
| 20:02.07 | tremon | it's in package debian-kernel-handbook. I haven't done custom kernels lately, I don't know what the current correct way is |
| 20:02.16 | tremon | !kernel-handbook |
| 20:02.16 | dpkg | The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook (http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/) - packaged as debian-kernel-handbook since Debian 7.0 "Wheezy" - serves as a single access point to all kernel-related documentation. See chapter 4.2 to rebuild official Debian kernel packages, see chapter 4.5 to build a custom kernel from Debian kernel source. |
| 20:02.45 | mumpitzel | dougmencken: make deb-pkg something that is now in every vanilla kernel source |
| 20:02.47 | dougmencken | !alternate-backup-link |
| 20:03.14 | *** join/#debian zerick (~eocrospom@190.187.21.53) |
| 20:03.22 | tremon | mumpitzel: thx |
| 20:03.32 | dougmencken | okay, I got it: everything is in chaos state :) |
| 20:03.43 | dougmencken | I'd better contact LKML |
| 20:03.51 | *** join/#debian BitPuffin (~quassel@s193-13-104-175.cust.tele2.se) |
| 20:03.52 | dougmencken | see you, and good luck in hacking! |
| 20:04.04 | tremon | you too :) |
| 20:04.19 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: ? |
| 20:04.36 | Vasistha | HumbleBIOS: oldstable is usually supported for about a year. I haven't upgraded my personal system to wheezy yet. sometimes service providers can take some time to upgrade. I don't think that makes a release a "failure" |
| 20:05.28 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: select keymap from full list (I swear I had already typed that ;) |
| 20:05.43 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: ok |
| 20:06.29 | HumbleBIOS | Vasistha, 3 Major providers notified me saying stay away from 7.0 until the next release has kernel issues doesn't support Xen properly and packages are broken, where as they all said 6.0 is rocksolid and still perfectly usable, how is 7.0 not a failure again Vasistha ? |
| 20:06.45 | *** join/#debian Sevet (steveayre@149.241.69.221) |
| 20:07.20 | Vasistha | HumbleBIOS: I guess it's a failure for people who need xen |
| 20:07.22 | orzo | In debian version comparisons, is 2.11.0 before or after 2.11-20130710 ? |
| 20:07.31 | *** join/#debian tBKwtWS (~tBKwtWS@82-170-38-30.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 20:07.31 | *** join/#debian LNShadow (~LNShadow@31.10.116.105) |
| 20:07.35 | aguitel | my graphic card are :GeForce 7025 ,how install propietarie driver under wheezy ? |
| 20:07.39 | Th0masR0ss | Th0masR0ss: tremon |
| 20:07.42 | Th0masR0ss | waps |
| 20:07.46 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-67-188-24-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:07.50 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: then? |
| 20:07.50 | HumbleBIOS | Vasistha, so 80% of the net have a failed OS, such as Linode.com such as 5GBps.com and such as boxslots.com :S |
| 20:08.34 | HumbleBIOS | Every provider I know/have-used USE Xen, Vasistha and for good reasons better then KVM junk, but anywho Guess you should go tell them to shift off that platform and find the one that will make 7.0 awesome, dunno maybe virtualbox? lmao |
| 20:08.44 | mumpitzel | aguitel: you need nvidia driver version 173 or so for this card. otherwise: /msg dpkg nvidia dkms |
| 20:08.58 | tremon | Th0masR0ss: it depends on your keyboard. Sadly there are no pictures to verify, but if you have a standard US layout, I'd recommend generic 104 or generic 105 key |
| 20:09.03 | Vasistha | HumbleBIOS: besides, you never know what might happen with the kernel in 6 months - there could be an incremental release that solves a lot of problems |
| 20:09.18 | mumpitzel | aguitel: the package is called nvidia-kernel-legacy-173xx-dkms |
| 20:09.32 | HumbleBIOS | It could also get worse Vasistha ! Play it safe and stick with something reliable tried tested and true Vasistha debian 6.0 :) Works perfect for me. |
| 20:09.37 | Th0masR0ss | tremon: mk. I have to go so ill try it later. |
| 20:09.39 | tremon | HumbleBIOS: well, did you report bugs or gave you links to already reported bugs? |
| 20:09.48 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@adsl-26.109.242.205.tellas.gr) |
| 20:09.49 | *** join/#debian gnugr (~gnugr@unaffiliated/gnugr) |
| 20:10.10 | tremon | should have included "they" somewhere in that question |
| 20:10.10 | HumbleBIOS | I didn't have the bugs, I was just advised to steer clear of 7.0 tremon by 3 reliable sources. 6.0 is what im using. |
| 20:10.14 | Vasistha | HumbleBIOS: I put wheezy on my brother's computer and he's happy with it. I'll upgrade my own machine when I'm ready. I don't run servers though. |
| 20:10.27 | aguitel | mumpitzel, ok |
| 20:10.44 | tremon | HumbleBIOS: yes, I meant did /they/ report bugs? How on earth is debian supposed to improve if the users don't report bugs they find? |
| 20:10.47 | HumbleBIOS | Vasistha, Virtualization may come into play with all the so called bugs. |
| 20:10.50 | *** join/#debian Quacero (~quacero@p54B48038.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:10.58 | *** join/#debian bmr (~bmr@128.19.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 20:11.04 | *** join/#debian SmashingX (~kvirc@64.207.33.226) |
| 20:11.14 | HumbleBIOS | tremon, they reported them right away because they didn't want to go back to 6.0 but since debian cant fix things overnight they had to go back to 6.0 |
| 20:11.58 | *** join/#debian memus (~memus@nrbg-4dbe6849.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:11.59 | *** join/#debian bin (~bin@94.155.229.38) |
| 20:12.18 | *** join/#debian Destroy_The_Nsa (~klske@host6-59-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:12.18 | *** join/#debian bin (~bin@unaffiliated/phreaky) |
| 20:12.28 | *** join/#debian rity (~Pulsar9@pool-71-163-165-240.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:13.16 | *** join/#debian daveeejr (~quassel@ip-209-203.oberlin.net) |
| 20:13.48 | daveeejr | i have these errors in my pm-suspend.log http://pastebin.com/Jy9EeMwr but i only checked there because when suspending my laptop i see an error that says something like legacy_resume()...returns -19 |
| 20:14.13 | daveeejr | i can hibernate and suspend fine, but i would like to get rid of this error because i have read that it will freeze the computer on and off |
| 20:14.15 | *** join/#debian motto (~mor@host62-37-dynamic.1-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:14.34 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:14.38 | jhutchins | Someone has a distorted picture of what runs on the internet. |
| 20:14.48 | *** join/#debian Luticus (~joe@74-92-177-118-Charleston.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 20:14.57 | Vasistha | If what you're saying, HumbleBIOS, is so bad, I wonder how the debian release happened? Number of rc bugs should be zero at release time. How could such bad things have slipped through the cracks? While it was debian testing, was nobody running a wheezy system who could discover this stuff? It is strange. |
| 20:14.59 | *** join/#debian Bill__ (~quassel@68-190-112-249.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com) |
| 20:15.51 | Perdu | Hi all. My hard drive disk is about to die, so I'm planning to move the whole filesystem on a new (bigger) disk. What's the best way to do this? Will a simple dd work? My HDD contains several data and system partitions (Debian, Ubuntu and Win) |
| 20:16.17 | HumbleBIOS | Vasistha, well maybe so; but it'd be pretty surreal if Linode Boxslots 5GBps and dreamhost were lying to me in their emails. What would they gain from that? |
| 20:16.18 | HumbleBIOS | Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating. Not a single packet solicited or otherwise was received from your system as a result of our security probing tests. Your system ignored and refused to reply to repeated Pings (ICMP Echo Requests). From the standpoint of the passing probes of any hacker, this machine does not exist on the Internet. Some questionable personal security syste |
| 20:16.19 | HumbleBIOS | ms expose their users by attempting to "counter-probe the prober", thus revealing themselves. But your system wisely remained silent in every way. Very nice. |
| 20:16.22 | Vasistha | Perdu: probably don't want to do dd because the filesystem info will be different. |
| 20:16.24 | HumbleBIOS | Whoops, sorry stupid paste. |
| 20:16.26 | *** join/#debian VonKranke (~SYS64790@gateway/tor-sasl/vonkranke) |
| 20:16.44 | Vasistha | Perdu: using tar can work great. Let me look it up ... |
| 20:16.46 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 20:16.53 | jhutchins | HumbleBIOS: A link to a notice on one of their web pages would be more credible. |
| 20:17.04 | HumbleBIOS | jhutchins, sec. |
| 20:17.20 | Vasistha | Perdu: (cd /source; tar cf - .) | (cd /destination; tar xf -) |
| 20:17.23 | tremon | Perdu: dd will work fine, as long as the entire drive is still readable |
| 20:17.41 | Perdu | Vasistha: I also read that GParted has an option to do this, don't know if it works great |
| 20:17.44 | *** part/#debian Quacero (~quacero@p54B48038.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:17.44 | jhutchins | A lot of low-end hosting companies don't provide current versions of Linux distros. |
| 20:17.56 | daveeejr | i have these errors in my pm-suspend.log http://pastebin.com/Jy9EeMwr but i only checked there because when suspending my laptop i see an error that says something like legacy_resume()...returns -19 |
| 20:17.57 | tremon | it's also the slowest option, as it will also copy all non-used space on the disk |
| 20:18.00 | daveeejr | i can hibernate and suspend fine, but i would like to get rid of this error because i have read that it will freeze the computer on and off |
| 20:18.04 | daveeejr | i am using debian wheezy gnome3 |
| 20:18.17 | daveeejr | any advice to fix the error? |
| 20:18.28 | HumbleBIOS | daveeejr, use debian 6.0 lol |
| 20:18.47 | HumbleBIOS | Can't find anything jhutchins maybe the emails were bull o.0 But I highly doubt it. |
| 20:19.07 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 20:19.09 | daveeejr | HumbleBIOS: why would you suggest that? |
| 20:19.18 | *** join/#debian slv (~silvermec@209-6-88-237.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 20:19.21 | daveeejr | HumbleBIOS: dealing with outdated libraries would only be tougher on 6.0 |
| 20:19.33 | HumbleBIOS | ^ You said you were having issues with 7.0 and other people have told me the same, daveeejr, longer support, tried tested and true. |
| 20:19.46 | HumbleBIOS | daveeejr, that might not be true actually |
| 20:19.49 | Perdu | tremon: I suspect I have several bad blocks on my old disk, will they be copied as "bad blocks" on the new disk or everything will be fine (as long as they don't contain important files parts)? |
| 20:20.18 | mumpitzel | HumbleBIOS: there is no longer support for debian squeeze. in may 2014 there is no more support for it. the end. while wheezy will be supported for probably ~3 years from now |
| 20:20.55 | tremon | Perdu: dd will stop at the first error unless you use conv=noerror. The unreadable blocks will be replaced with zeroes |
| 20:21.03 | HumbleBIOS | I look at it from this point of view mumpitzel whatever gets the job done whatever works basically and from where im sitting 7.0 looks like it isnt cutting the mustard. |
| 20:21.22 | Perdu | tremon: OK, good |
| 20:21.39 | *** join/#debian arnoldB (~arnoldB@vsr5.bechtoldt-srv.com) |
| 20:21.48 | *** join/#debian Luticus (~joe@74-92-177-118-Charleston.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 20:22.00 | jelly-home | Perdu: you can also use ddrescue or gnuddrescue instead, which try to reread many times in increasingly smaller chunks to recover as much as possible |
| 20:22.11 | Perdu | I also fear that most problems will happen with copying Windows; will this work with a dd? (not sure I will have support for this here) |
| 20:22.14 | daveeejr | mumpitzel: when i suspend, i get this error "legacy_resume(): pnp_bus_resume+0x0/0x62 returns -19" |
| 20:22.22 | *** join/#debian Roenie (~Roenie@D978CF38.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 20:22.32 | daveeejr | i have these errors in my pm-suspend.log http://pastebin.com/Jy9EeMwr |
| 20:22.48 | *** join/#debian cITs (cits@unaffiliated/cits) |
| 20:22.48 | *** join/#debian cITs (cits@gateway/shell/anapnea.net/x-lebreglfcasvkjkm) |
| 20:22.55 | Vasistha | this dying disk, does it have dual boot debian/windows? |
| 20:22.58 | daveeejr | mumpitzel: i think it could be my wireless card. i am using iwlwifi, non free driver |
| 20:23.06 | *** join/#debian chrob (~christoph@chello080108185051.1.12.vie.surfer.at) |
| 20:23.16 | Perdu | Vasistha: Yes, it has debian + ubuntu + windows |
| 20:24.06 | *** join/#debian andreas-- (~andy@unaffiliated/slacky) |
| 20:24.34 | Vasistha | Perdu: there is some sort of ntfs backup and/or partition tool, it may be useful for you |
| 20:24.50 | FilipeMaia | Is there a way to limit the SAS link speed to 3 GB/s in linux? |
| 20:24.58 | *** join/#debian thot_ (~thot@189.188.207.86) |
| 20:25.31 | Vasistha | Perdu: check out debian packages ntfsprogs and scrounge-ntfs, they may be useful for you |
| 20:25.44 | *** join/#debian marlinc (marlinc@ip565fa73c.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 20:26.00 | mumpitzel | Perdu: use clonezilla |
| 20:26.01 | *** join/#debian nosuid (~nosuid@unaffiliated/nosuid) |
| 20:26.14 | marlinc | Is this the right channel to ask questions about creating deb packages? |
| 20:26.54 | *** join/#debian damentz (~damentz@184.75.223.170) |
| 20:27.14 | Vasistha | marlinc: there is some sort of debian-developers channel, maybe more than one, that might be a better place to ask. But you could ask here, depending on the question you might get an answer. I'm not sure myself. I have created a couple deb packages though for my own use |
| 20:27.16 | tremon | marlinc: it's either here or on oftc.net/#debian-mentors |
| 20:27.35 | marlinc | Okay :p |
| 20:28.27 | marlinc | Well you need to specify a distribution right? Is it possible to specify multiple? |
| 20:28.56 | *** join/#debian damentz (~damentz@50.23.65.43) |
| 20:29.07 | marlinc | Because I need to support multiple Ubuntu distributions. (I know this is the Debian channel but it is the Debian packaging format so it would be the same) |
| 20:29.12 | mumpitzel | marlinc: you don't specify any distro |
| 20:29.25 | mumpitzel | marlinc: and no it's not the same |
| 20:29.43 | *** join/#debian Rosco2 (~RossGammo@188-178-212-240-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 20:30.17 | tremon | marlinc: ubuntu uses different packaging rules, what works for debian may not be accepted in ubuntu and vice-versa |
| 20:30.34 | marlinc | Well its about the changelog spec |
| 20:30.37 | daveeejr | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.39 | daveeejr | i have these errors in my pm-suspend.log http://pastebin.com/Jy9EeMwr |
| 20:30.45 | daveeejr | i think it could be my wireless card. i am using iwlwifi, non free driver |
| 20:30.48 | marlinc | You need to specify unstable and stuff on Debian? |
| 20:30.50 | daveeejr | can anybody help me with this? |
| 20:30.59 | *** join/#debian msantana (msantana@unaffiliated/darkstar) |
| 20:31.03 | HumbleBIOS | tremon, not really; most things in ubuntu work in debian and vice versa, across the board, similar kernel based on same distro and codebase could go on, but most things are compatible. |
| 20:31.14 | marlinc | gentoo (0.9.12-1) >>>>unstable<<<<; urgency=low |
| 20:31.14 | mumpitzel | marlinc: no. you cannot specify unstable at all |
| 20:31.19 | marlinc | That |
| 20:31.20 | ctmjr | !ubuntu |
| 20:31.21 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 20:31.41 | *** join/#debian _goTAN (~goTAN@2a02:8070:70e:1800:6cbe:1953:8de1:cf68) |
| 20:31.49 | *** join/#debian motto (~mor@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 20:31.50 | mumpitzel | daveeejr: unload the driver. suspend. if it still happens you know it's not this driver. repeat for any and all devices |
| 20:32.04 | daveeejr | mumpitzel: thanks! |
| 20:33.22 | *** join/#debian worstadmin (~worst@sillyhacker.info) |
| 20:35.20 | marlinc | Ah found it already |
| 20:35.21 | marlinc | In a .changes file or parsed changelog output this contains the (space-separated) name(s) of the distribution(s) where this version of the package should be installed. |
| 20:35.28 | marlinc | That's what I was looking for |
| 20:35.35 | marlinc | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Distribution |
| 20:38.44 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~galex-713@71.45.142.88.rev.sfr.net) |
| 20:39.08 | *** part/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 20:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1295] by debhelper |
| 20:43.12 | *** join/#debian marsfligth (~a@host83-45-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:43.34 | *** join/#debian Sambler (~OKASO@unaffiliated/sambler) |
| 20:44.23 | *** join/#debian SmashingX (~kvirc@63.142.161.8) |
| 20:44.35 | *** join/#debian Destroy_1he_Nsa (~klske@host38-238-dynamic.11-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:44.46 | *** join/#debian SmashingX (~kvirc@unaffiliated/smashingx) |
| 20:45.12 | SmashingX | anybody that could recommend a good VPN service? |
| 20:46.57 | SmashingX | man dig |
| 20:47.21 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 20:47.22 | *** join/#debian AciD` (~gni@jau72-5-78-223-56-21.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:49.11 | *** join/#debian gotan (~goTAN@95.208.248.0) |
| 20:49.36 | *** join/#debian Destroy_The_Nsa (~klske@95.236.103.187) |
| 20:51.34 | *** join/#debian mnewton (~mnewton@chi-pat.cashnetusa.com) |
| 20:51.55 | nkuttler | SmashingX: well, i'm quite happy with linode |
| 20:52.13 | SmashingX | ok I will check it out |
| 20:52.19 | SmashingX | thanks for the suggestion |
| 20:52.47 | SmashingX | just let me ask you a question, are you still able to connect to you home machine connected to VPN? |
| 20:52.57 | SmashingX | I mean via ssh |
| 20:52.59 | *** join/#debian amgarching (~amgarchin@p4FD6283D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:53.13 | nkuttler | SmashingX: uh, never mind.. i read vps... should go to bed |
| 20:53.41 | SmashingX | vps? |
| 20:53.48 | SmashingX | what's that? |
| 20:53.57 | nkuttler | !vps |
| 20:53.58 | dpkg | somebody said vps was Virtual Private Server (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server), or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianHosting#Virtual_Dedicated_Server |
| 20:54.12 | SmashingX | ohh |
| 20:54.14 | SmashingX | hosting |
| 20:54.20 | SmashingX | for your website and things |
| 20:54.48 | ctmjr | SmashingX: openvpn is nice and is in debian |
| 20:55.03 | SmashingX | ctmjr: well I mean providers |
| 20:55.11 | SmashingX | I'm using openvpn already |
| 20:58.08 | *** join/#debian sidus (~abracadab@37-5-73-205-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 21:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1288] by debhelper |
| 21:01.46 | *** join/#debian mikul (~mikul@fikul.ekb.sgsnet.se) |
| 21:01.52 | *** join/#debian McEasy (~chrism@65.122.251.41) |
| 21:01.56 | *** join/#debian project2501a (~kot@lopsa/member/project2501a) |
| 21:02.25 | *** join/#debian tekkbuzz (~oijvlj@unaffiliated/tekkbuzz) |
| 21:03.13 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@174.32.161.73) |
| 21:03.47 | *** join/#debian firecode (~irc@186-210-216-190.xd-dynamic.ctbcnetsuper.com.br) |
| 21:03.47 | *** join/#debian firecode (~irc@unaffiliated/firecode) |
| 21:03.56 | *** join/#debian deanrock0 (~deankde@cpe-77.38.57.189.cable.t-1.si) |
| 21:04.11 | *** join/#debian Piotr_ (~Piotr@184.75.212.154) |
| 21:05.32 | *** part/#debian Luticus (~joe@74-92-177-118-Charleston.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 21:05.37 | McEasy | Hey guys, I have a quick and hopefully painless question. I'm attempting to create a .deb that just copies a file from the .deb to the users home directory. I have the file that needs to be copied and wrote a simple script that copies it to the correct directory. Putting these into a .deb does nothing, so I'm wondering if this is the correct way to use a .deb or not. |
| 21:05.40 | *** join/#debian datguise (~thisguise@unaffiliated/datguise) |
| 21:07.04 | *** join/#debian donnerfels (~donnerfel@gateway/tor-sasl/donnerfels) |
| 21:09.34 | *** join/#debian slidesinger (~slidesing@c-69-141-78-33.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 21:10.39 | *** join/#debian jwilliams1 (~clin@36-224-224-140.dynamic-ip.hinet.net) |
| 21:11.17 | *** join/#debian gwizdek (~Piotr@184.75.212.154) |
| 21:11.29 | *** join/#debian Noskcaj10 (~Noskcaj@CPE-121-218-211-185.lnse4.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 21:12.30 | Vasistha | McEasy: what is your end objective? why are you doing this? |
| 21:12.42 | *** join/#debian Destroy_The_Nsa (~klske@95.236.103.187) |
| 21:12.45 | Walex | McEasy: that's a tragic abuse of a '.deb'. But then there are "official" '.deb's that have 2,000 lines pre and post scripts... |
| 21:13.11 | *** join/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 21:13.14 | *** join/#debian daveee123 (~daveee123@ip-209-203.oberlin.net) |
| 21:13.19 | daveee123 | best email client that groups gmail conversations well that also works with gnome3? |
| 21:13.29 | *** join/#debian heffay (~heffay@c-69-181-41-250.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:13.33 | Walex | McEasy: also if you haven't discovered pre/post scripts you haven't read anything about Debian packaging, so you should not be asking here to be spoongfed |
| 21:13.49 | *** join/#debian bagpuss_thecat (~bagpuss_t@ks301869.kimsufi.com) |
| 21:14.03 | jarray52 | is /etc/rc.local the preferred location for actions that one wants to execute when the system boots? |
| 21:14.26 | Walex | daveee123: GMail conversations cannot be exactly reproduced in any other system based on traditional folders. |
| 21:14.38 | Walex | jarray52: mostly, but depends exactly when at boot and what it does |
| 21:14.40 | McEasy | Vasistha: I'm just wanting to create an "installer" that copies a single plugin file to a user directory. Something more official than running a script. |
| 21:15.00 | jarray52 | Walex: I wan't to automatically enable synergy to run for a particular user. |
| 21:15.00 | Vasistha | McEasy: *which* user directory? |
| 21:15.21 | McEasy | Vasistha: .mozilla/plugins/ |
| 21:15.30 | Vasistha | McEasy: no - for which user? |
| 21:15.48 | daveee123 | Walex: darn. icedove has done the best so far, but rarely can i leave really large threads grouped and see the most recent one. i either have to upgroup and love the conversation, or i have to have 100 lines in between 3 new emails |
| 21:15.53 | McEasy | Vasistha: If ~ is allowed, then just current user |
| 21:16.03 | *** join/#debian riceandbeans (~zach@unaffiliated/riceandbeans) |
| 21:16.12 | daveee123 | Walex: and by rarely i mean i havent found a client that fixes the issue yet |
| 21:16.28 | *** join/#debian bitwave (~bitwave@97.67.160.84) |
| 21:16.29 | daveee123 | Walex: icedove at least shows the convo in a preview when it is grouped and collapsed |
| 21:16.47 | Vasistha | McEasy: normal users aren't supposed to be allowed to "install" deb files |
| 21:17.13 | Vasistha | McEasy: is there some reason you don't do the plugin installation through mozilla's plugin installation path? |
| 21:17.38 | *** join/#debian Ferdroid (fershun@201.185.153.205) |
| 21:17.44 | *** join/#debian Destroy_The_Nsa (~klske@95.236.103.187) |
| 21:18.09 | Vasistha | McEasy: I mean - that's part of the nice thing about e.g. thunderbird/icedove and firefox/iceweasel right? You can go to where you manage your plugins, and install a new one through the UI built into those applications |
| 21:18.48 | *** part/#debian HumbleBIOS (~HumbleBIO@222-154-182-177.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 21:18.50 | McEasy | Vasistha: Yeah, it'd be really easy to do it that way but it's a plugin for a specific audience (clients) and no use for the general public. |
| 21:19.52 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e} (~kvirc@178.123.159.128) |
| 21:19.54 | Vasistha | McEasy: just so we can be on the same page - is this a browser plugin? or a mail plugin? or...? |
| 21:20.12 | McEasy | Vasistha: Of course, it's a browser plugin |
| 21:22.31 | *** join/#debian Dibbler (~Dibbler@host86-150-238-108.range86-150.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:23.50 | *** join/#debian nosuid (~nosuid@unaffiliated/nosuid) |
| 21:24.03 | Vasistha | McEasy: http://www.accessfirefox.org/Install_Addon_Manually.php |
| 21:24.44 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 21:24.45 | *** part/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 21:25.32 | McEasy | Vasistha: I already looked into XPI's.. they install as extensions not plugins. I'd have to change my plugin to an extension that runs a plugin. Not that that isn't do-able.. but may be more work than it's worth. |
| 21:25.52 | *** join/#debian sruetti (~Thunderbi@178-83-84-87.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 21:26.59 | *** join/#debian Kh05p3r (~th3d4rkb4@5.254.134.34) |
| 21:28.16 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@c-98-231-66-146.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 21:28.21 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@fsf/member/pipeep) |
| 21:29.01 | *** join/#debian daradydai (~xubuntu@92-247-252-254.spectrumnet.bg) |
| 21:29.20 | McEasy | Vasistha: Another downside to an XPI is it's browser specific. I read that Firefox and Chromium both look at ~/.mozilla/plugins/ so one file there and it installs for 2 browsers at once. That is why I'm looking for an "installer" to place the file there. Windows and mac both have their ways but I'm new with linux installers. |
| 21:29.21 | jhutchins | McEasy: How about a script that uses scp/rsync to install the file? |
| 21:30.15 | riceandbeans | sftp > scp/rsync |
| 21:30.26 | riceandbeans | jhutchins: I'm hooked on sftp |
| 21:30.37 | riceandbeans | I use it for everything |
| 21:30.38 | hazardous | does anyone know if it's possible to reserve ports? like for example i need 55000 to 56000 to never be used for random in or out connections by the os itself because i have stuff bound to it |
| 21:30.55 | McEasy | jhutchins: That's not out of the question, it just needs to be able to be run by the lowest common denominator user. Hence why I'm looking for an "official" way instead of just running a script. |
| 21:31.51 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@81-230-126-193-no160.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 21:32.11 | *** join/#debian Arch_XFCE4 (~Arch_XFCE@de1x.mullvad.net) |
| 21:32.15 | *** join/#debian uNIXplumber (~uNIXplumb@ultimedia-linux.org) |
| 21:32.24 | *** join/#debian mczhb_ (~mczhb@p5B3DE752.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:32.31 | Arch_XFCE4 | i built a custom build of kali ( xfce ) but the tools menu isnt there |
| 21:32.34 | Arch_XFCE4 | O__o |
| 21:32.43 | Arch_XFCE4 | any hints for me?? |
| 21:32.43 | *** join/#debian valeriusL (~valerius@85.26.180.147) |
| 21:33.01 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@77.28.16.5) |
| 21:33.04 | McEasy | I guess I'm just looking for a linux equivalent to mac's pkg and windows xpi. I thought it was a .deb but I could be off. |
| 21:33.08 | Arch_XFCE4 | like is there a git for the kali tools or somethin |
| 21:33.25 | Arch_XFCE4 | i built a custom build of kali ( xfce ) but the tools menu isnt there |
| 21:33.30 | Arch_XFCE4 | any hints for me?? |
| 21:34.05 | Walex | riceandbeans: SFTP uses a terrifyingly inefficient protocol |
| 21:34.19 | riceandbeans | Walex: sftp uses ssh |
| 21:34.22 | Walex | riceandbeans: RSYNC is enormously better. Even SCP is better |
| 21:34.40 | riceandbeans | sftp, contrary to the name, does not in any way use ftp |
| 21:34.44 | Arch_XFCE4 | -__- why doesnt anyone respond to me |
| 21:34.47 | Arch_XFCE4 | Y___Y |
| 21:34.48 | Walex | riceandbeans: no, SFTP uses SSH-over-SSH and is half-duplex |
| 21:35.09 | *** join/#debian kingsley (~kingsley@174-31-231-41.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 21:35.19 | Walex | Arch_XFCE4: because you haven't given your Debian Platinum Support Account Number |
| 21:35.30 | Vasistha | McEasy: well ... the thing about linux is it's a whole bunch of different operating systems. There's like windows xp, windows 6, 7, 8 ... and there are different versions of mac os too, maybe 6 or 8 different versions in widespread usage today, I don't know. And many of the different versions of windows support similar or identical installer programs, ditto for mac. But there are dozens of different linux OS's, and they do not all support the same |
| 21:35.31 | Arch_XFCE4 | huh? |
| 21:35.32 | Vasistha | installers. |
| 21:35.44 | *** join/#debian TheWarden (~chatzilla@S0106e0469a3d83ef.ss.shawcable.net) |
| 21:35.53 | Vasistha | McEasy: it is one of the problems that makes it difficult for developers to support linux |
| 21:35.55 | Arch_XFCE4 | i need an account number? |
| 21:35.58 | Arch_XFCE4 | to ask a question |
| 21:36.32 | Walex | Arch_XFCE4: if you don't have a Debian Platinum Account the convention is that you ask a question with some details, and repeat it in full at most every 10-15 minutes |
| 21:36.38 | McEasy | Vasistha: Er yeah, I know the basics of that (somewhat). I'm working on a .deb and .rpm (to cover the majority), I just want to make sure I'm on the right track. |
| 21:37.14 | Arch_XFCE4 | i built a custom build of kali ( xfce ) but the tools menu ( kali tools ) isnt there |
| 21:37.20 | Walex | Arch_XFCE4: when you say "any hints for me?" you are assuming a lot of people are willing to scroll back and find your original question |
| 21:37.37 | *** join/#debian SmashingX (~kvirc@unaffiliated/smashingx) |
| 21:37.57 | Vasistha | McEasy: well perhaps you are after all of our doubting :-) |
| 21:38.10 | Walex | Arch_XFCE4: that is better, but it is a bit of a narrow question, and those often are not popular. |
| 21:38.11 | *** join/#debian [olli] (~olli@olli.static.corbina.ru) |
| 21:38.17 | *** join/#debian srlang (~Sean@108-92-65-23.lightspeed.clmboh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:38.29 | *** join/#debian tekkbuzz (~oijvlj@unaffiliated/tekkbuzz) |
| 21:38.34 | Walex | Arch_XFCE4: you need to find someone who is actually following the channel now and has tried to compile the same thing... |
| 21:38.47 | McEasy | Vasistha: hah, I wish I knew what I was doing |
| 21:38.55 | riceandbeans | Walex: I've never had any performance issues ever with sftp and it has a much more powerful feature list than scp and rsync |
| 21:38.57 | Arch_XFCE4 | :/ |
| 21:39.19 | Walex | Arch_XFCE4: perhaps you could turn that into a more general question... |
| 21:39.19 | riceandbeans | Walex: I've shipped over TB at a time with sftp |
| 21:39.54 | jhutchins | McEasy: Users can copy files to their own directories. They can't install files system-wide, but that's why mozilla has a user-specific location for add-ins. Also why installing one from their site doesn't take a root password. |
| 21:39.55 | Walex | riceandbeans: it will work, it just is very very slow on links with a large delay-bandwidth product. |
| 21:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1280] by debhelper |
| 21:40.32 | jhutchins | McEasy: Users can't install code to the system. It's one of the features that makes *NIX more secure than Windows. |
| 21:40.52 | *** join/#debian codesoup (~codesoup@69-165-145-211.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 21:40.58 | Walex | riceandbeans: for example I can get 40-60MB/s transfer rates with RSYNC-over-SSH on a 1Gb/s WEthernet, but only 4-8MB/s with SFTP. |
| 21:40.58 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~shiva@gateway/tor-sasl/lordshiva) |
| 21:41.03 | *** join/#debian Ferdroid (fershun@201.185.153.205) |
| 21:41.07 | McEasy | jhutchins: Exactly, that's why I'm not trying to throw these in /usr/lib or some other root-priviliged directory. |
| 21:41.13 | jhutchins | McEasy: Sustem-wide installations take the root password (or sudo). |
| 21:41.28 | *** join/#debian plotino (~plotino@host168-187-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:41.30 | jhutchins | McEasy: So why is there a question? |
| 21:41.35 | Walex | McEasy: the difficulty is that it is very hard to get '.deb' installed by users other than 'root' |
| 21:42.03 | *** join/#debian t3oss (~t3oss@unaffiliated/t3oss) |
| 21:42.09 | jhutchins | McEasy: Discard the commercial models. In Linux you can just copy the file, you don't need an installer to update the registry. |
| 21:42.14 | riceandbeans | Walex: I've sent files with it avging 600MB/s |
| 21:42.23 | McEasy | I guess the question now is.. is there an "installer" that can copy a file to a user directory that isn't just a copy script? |
| 21:42.29 | riceandbeans | custom built, threaded ssh, running on bonded nics |
| 21:42.40 | McEasy | Trust me.. this isn't my idea.. boss man wants a nice pretty "press next to proceed" output for the customer. |
| 21:42.40 | riceandbeans | quadruple bonded fiber |
| 21:42.48 | jhutchins | McEasy: The only reason for using the "installer" in Debian is so that the system can track the presence/version of the package. |
| 21:43.06 | jhutchins | McEasy: There is no need for such an installer. |
| 21:43.22 | jhutchins | McEasy: You can probably get java to do it on a web form button click. |
| 21:43.27 | Walex | riceandbeans: that sounds very strange, again because it runs SSH-over-SSH and is half-duplex. |
| 21:44.18 | jhutchins | McEasy: You don't need to install anything special to do an scp/rsync either (assuming that ssh is enabled). |
| 21:44.37 | Arch_XFCE4 | i built a custom build of kali ( xfce ) but the tools menu ( kali tools ) isnt there |
| 21:44.39 | jhutchins | sftp is overkill. bash + scp |
| 21:44.42 | Arch_XFCE4 | anyone itc can help? |
| 21:44.58 | *** join/#debian BotaniCar (~BotaniCar@93-136-38-1.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 21:45.05 | McEasy | jhutchins: You probably know better than who's giving me orders, as they aren't completely familiar with linux. |
| 21:45.14 | jhutchins | Arch_XFCE4: No, we only support Debian packing solutions. Install the debian packages, you should have a tools menu. |
| 21:45.20 | Walex | riceandbeans: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/0802feb.html#080205 |
| 21:45.36 | *** join/#debian Ridout (~coffee@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 21:45.51 | Arch_XFCE4 | i have debian, kali is debian... the kali-menu isnt there though |
| 21:46.03 | jhutchins | McEasy: The other thing would be to download an executable script that installed the file. |
| 21:46.03 | Arch_XFCE4 | when i build an xefe env |
| 21:46.15 | jhutchins | McEasy: ...possibly even included the file. |
| 21:46.16 | *** join/#debian soomsoom (~soomsoom@unaffiliated/soomsoom) |
| 21:46.17 | Arch_XFCE4 | *xfce |
| 21:47.10 | Walex | Arch_XFCE4: BTW when you say "Kali" do you mean Kali-Linux? kali.org |
| 21:47.16 | Arch_XFCE4 | yeah |
| 21:47.25 | Arch_XFCE4 | is there a kali chan on freenode? |
| 21:47.32 | Arch_XFCE4 | i dont wanna /list |
| 21:47.52 | Walex | Arch_XFCE4: there ought to be. Because by convention #Debian is strictly and only about Debian, not any derivatives |
| 21:47.59 | McEasy | jhutchins: I'm probably going to go that route. Click a button that downloads a script that then scp's or sftp's (whenever they figure out which is better) the plugin and places it in the user directory. |
| 21:47.59 | jhutchins | !kali |
| 21:47.59 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 21:48.15 | Arch_XFCE4 | sorry |
| 21:48.26 | *** part/#debian Arch_XFCE4 (~Arch_XFCE@de1x.mullvad.net) |
| 21:48.55 | *** join/#debian shicy (~shicy@unaffiliated/shicy) |
| 21:48.59 | jhutchins | McEasy: Downloading the script would only serve to meet the "requirement" for an installer. Might as well just download the required file to the right place automatically. |
| 21:50.00 | jhutchins | McEasy: You might find this an interesting diversion: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/here-docs.html |
| 21:50.29 | jhutchins | McEasy: If you're trying to do something in linux, and you're modeling it on how you'd do it in Windows, you're doing it wrong. |
| 21:51.07 | *** join/#debian alexy (~alexy@221.130.253.135) |
| 21:51.16 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 21:52.34 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 21:52.45 | McEasy | jhutchins: I assumed an installer was a universal usage, but that's my mistake. I'm just trying to get the process as streamlined as possible. |
| 21:53.39 | *** join/#debian bernat (~bernat@199.Red-88-0-57.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:55.05 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.140.171.247) |
| 21:55.36 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@189.22.238.230) |
| 21:55.36 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.187.199) |
| 21:55.52 | *** join/#debian plotino (~plotino@host168-187-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:56.57 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 21:57.09 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@fsf/member/polto) |
| 21:57.32 | *** join/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 21:58.29 | *** join/#debian calisto (~calisto@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 21:58.57 | *** part/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 21:59.08 | *** join/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 22:01.37 | McEasy | jhutchins: random note.. a site can't specify where to download a file. The browser is pretty heavily sandboxed so the best it can do is just download it to the downloads folder (or wherever the user has it set). Hence having the user download the script that downloads then copies the file to the correct location. |
| 22:02.07 | jarray52 | I want to run a script every time I login to gnome3. I created a file ~/.config/my_user_autostart_script.sh with the following contents. https://dpaste.de/9xOnV/ However, the script does not execute on login. Any suggestions? |
| 22:02.49 | *** join/#debian bitwave (~bitwave@c-68-47-12-21.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 22:03.47 | *** join/#debian nodiscc (~baron@unaffiliated/nodiscc) |
| 22:05.34 | bernat | jarray52, please, see this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8247706/start-script-when-gnome-starts-up |
| 22:06.26 | jarray52 | bernat: That was the tutorial I followed. |
| 22:07.23 | *** join/#debian tonyoy (~tonyoy@boz12-1-78-239-110-93.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:07.25 | bernat | how have you followed that? |
| 22:07.54 | *** join/#debian plotino (~plotino@host168-187-dynamic.53-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 22:07.59 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 22:08.11 | *** join/#debian pie_ (~pie_@unaffiliated/pie-/x-0787662) |
| 22:08.13 | pie_ | Im trying to scan my windows7 partition with baobab(graphical disk usage analyzer) but it gets stuck in a symlink loop, is there anything i can do? |
| 22:08.39 | jarray52 | bernat: I created a file ~/.config/autostart/<myuser>_autostart_script.desktop . |
| 22:08.58 | jarray52 | bernat: I posted the contents of that file: https://dpaste.de/9xOnV/ |
| 22:08.58 | bernat | ok, that's better than your first instance |
| 22:09.08 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-92-204-6.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 22:09.23 | jarray52 | bernat: I posted the wrong file name in my post, but I had the correct file(with path) on my desktop. |
| 22:09.34 | bernat | Exec should be an absolute path |
| 22:09.47 | bernat | and your script should be executable |
| 22:10.17 | *** join/#debian e1z0_ (~null@88.216.5.200) |
| 22:10.45 | *** join/#debian aladds (~aladds@AppleFritter/OldTimer/aladds) |
| 22:10.57 | jarray52 | bernat: Let me try that. Thanks. |
| 22:11.04 | jarray52 | bernat: I'm going to reboot. |
| 22:11.38 | bernat | you can try it with xdg-open |
| 22:11.43 | aladds | does anyone have experience with waf? I'm trying to convince it it can find libopenjpeg when it thinks it can't... |
| 22:12.12 | *** join/#debian |oop (~pool@c-68-81-109-22.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 22:12.25 | bernat | sry, that's wrong, xdg-open doesn't execute the desktop file |
| 22:14.05 | *** join/#debian machduck (~~@z24-runnet.guap.ru) |
| 22:15.36 | *** join/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 22:15.42 | *** part/#debian sruetti (~Thunderbi@178-83-84-87.dynamic.hispeed.ch) |
| 22:15.43 | *** join/#debian dtcrshr (~dataCrshr@unaffiliated/datacrusher) |
| 22:17.03 | *** join/#debian kingsley (~kingsley@174-31-231-41.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 22:17.26 | jarray52 | bernat: Even with the absolute path, it still doesn't autoexecute. |
| 22:17.34 | *** join/#debian jklaz (~jklaz@46.12.138.114.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 22:17.59 | jarray52 | bernat: I can manually execute the file, but it doesn't autoexecute. |
| 22:18.09 | bernat | try putting a name attribute |
| 22:18.48 | jarray52 | I already have a name attribute. |
| 22:18.55 | bernat | you can try it copying the file to .local/share/applications/ then run it from shell |
| 22:19.20 | bernat | oh, right |
| 22:20.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1270] by debhelper |
| 22:20.08 | *** join/#debian mnewton (~mnewton@chi-pat.cashnetusa.com) |
| 22:20.39 | *** join/#debian Mangolian (~Wewt|Mang@79-101-194-21.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 22:20.43 | jarray52 | What should the permissions be on ~/.config/autostart/<my_user>_autostart_script.desktop ? |
| 22:21.30 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 22:22.19 | bernat | the file should readable by you |
| 22:22.32 | bernat | should be* |
| 22:22.34 | *** join/#debian floe (~f10@188-192-183-84-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 22:22.49 | jarray52 | its readable by everyone it is -rw-r--r-- |
| 22:23.06 | bernat | and your script? |
| 22:23.20 | *** join/#debian felco (felco@201.83.36.59) |
| 22:23.35 | jarray52 | -rwxr--r-- |
| 22:23.39 | jarray52 | 744? |
| 22:24.01 | bernat | can you run the script directly? |
| 22:24.06 | jarray52 | Yes |
| 22:24.36 | bernat | can you try putting the desktop file in .local/share/applications and run it in the shell? |
| 22:24.52 | bernat | you'll have to take out the Hidden attribute |
| 22:25.11 | jarray52 | What do you mean by run it in the shell? |
| 22:25.53 | *** join/#debian f10 (~f10@188-192-183-84-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 22:26.00 | bernat | going to the activities pane, write the name in the desktop file and enter |
| 22:26.00 | *** join/#debian Gerben_ (~Gerben@5ED7316D.cm-7-8a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 22:26.08 | bernat | from gnome-shell activities |
| 22:26.11 | *** join/#debian ineedarobot (~ineedarob@cpc3-walt12-2-0-cust6.13-2.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:27.02 | *** join/#debian mx8manger (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/mx8manger) |
| 22:27.14 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 22:27.19 | *** join/#debian ashka (~postmaste@pdpc/supporter/active/ashka) |
| 22:27.27 | mx8manger | hello all today i remove ubuntu 13.04 to Debian 7 gnome |
| 22:27.34 | mx8manger | and it looks awkward and weirdo |
| 22:28.23 | mx8manger | the only thing that i might done wrong is i checked as "Web server" during installtion did Debian installer adjust the gnome apperance and theme to basic cause i choosed this ? |
| 22:29.14 | bernat | mx8manger, can you give more detail on what's wrong? Maybe some screenshot |
| 22:29.46 | mx8manger | i couldnt to my 3g modem net from it so that why i switched to windows |
| 22:29.53 | *** join/#debian file-exists-p (~file-exis@vps10994.ovh.net) |
| 22:29.55 | jarray52 | bernat: By the way, I'm using gnome3 not kde. |
| 22:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1262] by debhelper |
| 22:30.01 | mx8manger | and even when it does connect and i cant install backages |
| 22:30.08 | mx8manger | packages* |
| 22:30.16 | bernat | jarray52, so? |
| 22:30.45 | *** join/#debian mernilio (~chatzilla@c193-150-231-166.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 22:30.47 | jarray52 | bernat: I couldn't find the activities pane. |
| 22:30.49 | mx8manger | it asks to me insert the cdrom and i do mount -o loop debian*.iso /media/cdrom and nothing happens and it asks again |
| 22:30.54 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 22:30.56 | jarray52 | bernat: Where is it? |
| 22:31.03 | bernat | jarray52, just press the Windows key |
| 22:31.10 | mx8manger | thought i was using synaptic package manager to install them |
| 22:31.12 | file-exists-p | dear all. any idea why an emacs running on 7.0, remotely on a Xorg on a 6.0 gives me the "ubuntu font rendering", even if I added the legacy rendering config in /etc/fonts/conf.d ? Which makes xterm use the proper font rendering |
| 22:31.33 | *** join/#debian shabius (~shaburov1@95-27-134-83.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 22:31.35 | bernat | I meant the overview screen |
| 22:32.06 | jarray52 | The overview screen? |
| 22:32.25 | mx8manger | debian-7.1.0-i386-DVD-1.iso < is the right disc i should download cause i spent two weeks downloading it |
| 22:32.32 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 22:32.38 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e} (~kvirc@178.123.10.17) |
| 22:32.46 | bernat | jarray52, are you sure it's Gnome3? |
| 22:32.53 | mx8manger | i want to do some php projects on something stable that why i left ubuntu now i feel like it sucks |
| 22:33.00 | mx8manger | help maybe? |
| 22:33.18 | mx8manger | when i first logged the screen was total black and now it looks weird i mean |
| 22:33.34 | bernat | mx8manger, have you read me? |
| 22:33.35 | *** part/#debian aa47f8 (~sdaone@h187n14-far-a13.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 22:33.39 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@c-98-231-66-146.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 22:33.39 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@fsf/member/pipeep) |
| 22:34.04 | mx8manger | nah i havent read you |
| 22:34.12 | *** join/#debian aguitel (~aguitel@200.3.187.199) |
| 22:34.15 | *** join/#debian Bonzo (~coffee@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 22:34.16 | mx8manger | you saud harray not mx8* |
| 22:34.20 | mx8manger | jarray* |
| 22:34.26 | jarray52 | bernat: gnome-session --version gives 3.4.2.1 |
| 22:35.22 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 22:35.30 | *** join/#debian f10 (~f10@188-192-183-84-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 22:35.39 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:35.40 | markovh | wheezy default kernel is 3.2 right? |
| 22:35.45 | mx8manger | could someone instruct me how install xfce4 ? |
| 22:35.45 | mtn | mx8manger: can you give us a better description or post a screenshot? |
| 22:36.05 | bernat | markovh, yes |
| 22:36.20 | mx8manger | well i will have to reboot in 15 minutes after finishing download the xfce4 tar balls |
| 22:36.31 | mx8manger | maybe i cause i never used gnome before |
| 22:36.55 | mx8manger | does gnome have only one button on each window "x" and you cant resize or minimize etc ? |
| 22:37.01 | *** part/#debian McEasy (~chrism@65.122.251.41) |
| 22:37.17 | mx8manger | my graphic card is great am sure of that |
| 22:37.25 | mtn | mx8manger: you could go to the gnome website and learn about gnome 3. it is just different. |
| 22:37.47 | mtn | mx8manger: yes, gnome 3 comes with just an x in the top bar of windows |
| 22:38.37 | mx8manger | ok when i tried to gnome-classic it just froze why is that ? |
| 22:38.46 | jarray52 | bernat: gnome-session --version gives 3.4.2.1, but my desktop looks nothing near as nice as this https://www.gnome.org/gnome-3/ |
| 22:38.53 | mtn | mx8manger: no idea |
| 22:38.58 | *** join/#debian Bry8Star (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) |
| 22:39.15 | mx8manger | i always was fan of xfce4 and debian |
| 22:39.18 | mtn | mx8manger: by the way, it is polite to put the persons name in your response. |
| 22:39.50 | mx8manger | welll sorry if said something offending |
| 22:40.14 | bernat | jarray52, then I don't know which desktop you're using |
| 22:40.33 | mtn | mx8manger: see how I put your name first and it is highlighted? easy for you to see I am talking to you. you could do the same. |
| 22:40.44 | jarray52 | bernat: gnome-session --version gives 3.4.2.1. That suggests I'm using gnome 3, right? |
| 22:41.02 | jarray52 | bernat: I did a standard debian install recently. |
| 22:41.10 | bernat | that's the gnome-session version, it's just a desktop component |
| 22:41.20 | *** join/#debian entitativity (~entity@c-50-136-180-20.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:41.43 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 22:42.23 | mx8manger | okay what do you recommended me guys |
| 22:42.31 | mx8manger | if the default gui is broken |
| 22:42.49 | mx8manger | someone told me download kde version instead and i cant do that |
| 22:43.02 | cthuluh | try twm |
| 22:43.14 | mtn | mx8manger: it doesn't sound like your default gui is broken, just different. you can install any desktop you wish. |
| 22:43.23 | jarray52 | bernat: gnome-help shows instructions for gnome 3. |
| 22:43.58 | bernat | jarray52, can you post a screenshot or pastebin the output for "ps -eaf"? |
| 22:44.56 | mx8manger | am just fraid does other gui have package installers |
| 22:45.04 | mx8manger | and seems like apt is not working |
| 22:45.04 | ctmjr | mx8manger: why can't you download it |
| 22:45.12 | mx8manger | i have no money for using vpn |
| 22:45.21 | *** join/#debian _znull (~z@base.exison.net) |
| 22:45.26 | mx8manger | some open source foundations banned my country |
| 22:45.45 | mx8manger | cause usa told and them and many political stuff i dont like to speak about it |
| 22:45.53 | mtn | walks away from this one |
| 22:46.03 | mx8manger | is that why apt-get update fails and i cant install stuff at all |
| 22:46.10 | mx8manger | keep saying package not found |
| 22:46.52 | *** join/#debian x15 (~x15@gateway/tor-sasl/x15) |
| 22:46.57 | jarray52 | bernat: https://dpaste.de/dEoeH/ |
| 22:48.26 | bernat | jarray52, it seems you're running the gnome fallback mode |
| 22:48.47 | bernat | that's why you couldn't follow my directions |
| 22:49.26 | jarray52 | Any idea why that is happening? |
| 22:49.57 | jarray52 | My desktop has not really changed... So, I've probably been running the fallback mode since I installed... |
| 22:50.01 | bernat | if you followed my instructions I guess you can find the desktop file in the Others menu |
| 22:50.28 | bernat | that usually happens because your graphics driver doesn't provide the required functionality |
| 22:51.27 | bernat | that's a bit strange since any not-too-old graphics cards with the right driver is enough |
| 22:52.03 | *** join/#debian _polto_ (~polto@fsf/member/polto) |
| 22:53.17 | jarray52 | bernat: From Applications->Other->MyScript, I am able to execute the script. It works. |
| 22:53.54 | jarray52 | bernat: My graphics card is not that sophisticated. So, it is very plausible that caused the fallback mode. |
| 22:53.57 | *** join/#debian uuni (~Jellyfish@c-69-136-41-212.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 22:54.16 | *** join/#debian blackshirt (~blackshir@103.3.220.61) |
| 22:54.26 | blackshirt | hello, |
| 22:54.39 | bernat | then it should work in autostart too |
| 22:54.40 | blackshirt | where is iceweasel plugins directory in debian ? |
| 22:54.57 | bernat | blackshirt, the global one? |
| 22:55.15 | blackshirt | bernas, for user home dir .. |
| 22:55.33 | *** join/#debian Amanas (~Amanas@c-24-128-204-226.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 22:55.36 | blackshirt | ~/.mozilla ?? |
| 22:55.46 | abrotman | probably ~/.mozilla/plugins/ |
| 22:55.55 | *** join/#debian dagerik (dageriv@unaffiliated/dagerik) |
| 22:56.20 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 22:56.29 | dagerik | im getting "oh no something has gone wrong" before im able to login. help |
| 22:56.30 | blackshirt | abrotman: i dont see any plugins dir under .mozilla .. should i make it manually ? |
| 22:57.17 | bernat | jarray52, it doesn't have to be sophisticated at all, which one? |
| 22:57.46 | *** join/#debian justaguy (~justaguy@justaguy.pw) |
| 22:58.08 | justaguy | So i got a VPS running apache but where i need to place the index.html |
| 22:58.40 | abrotman | blackshirt: that'd be a good thing to try, eh ? |
| 22:58.41 | *** join/#debian zaltekk (~zaltekk@c-24-19-135-246.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 22:58.50 | blackshirt | abrotman: okey, i would try it |
| 22:58.51 | *** join/#debian Eryn_1983_FL (~Eryn_1983@142.196.83.53) |
| 23:00.08 | jarray52 | bernat: Radeon HD4350. |
| 23:00.21 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 23:00.43 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e} (~kvirc@178.123.10.17) |
| 23:00.52 | bernat | jarray52, that's far better than what I have |
| 23:01.31 | *** join/#debian drhouse123_ (~drhouse12@2.134.171.74) |
| 23:01.33 | *** join/#debian Selveste1_Laptop (~hds@31.25.23.230) |
| 23:02.11 | jarray52 | bernat: However, lspci -vvv | grep Radeon show that I have Mobility Radeon HD 5430 Series. |
| 23:02.22 | justaguy | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.30 | *** part/#debian justaguy (~justaguy@justaguy.pw) |
| 23:02.38 | *** join/#debian Bry8Star (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) |
| 23:02.46 | *** part/#debian blackshirt (~blackshir@103.3.220.61) |
| 23:03.36 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@189.22.238.230) |
| 23:03.43 | jarray52 | bernat: However, graphics seems to work reasonably well. I can play videos and I have high resolution on my monitor. |
| 23:04.12 | bernat | jarray52, in case you want to have full support and gnome-shell here's some info: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 23:05.00 | *** join/#debian redarrow_ (~redarrow@gateway/tor-sasl/redarrow) |
| 23:05.53 | jarray52 | bernat: I have a better graphics card that supports multiple monitors. I'm planning on installing it after I get this autostart functionality resolved. |
| 23:06.06 | babilen | dpkg: tell jarray52 -about radeon |
| 23:06.16 | jarray52 | bernat: I'll hold off on installing proprietary drivers until then. |
| 23:06.24 | babilen | jarray52: No need to use the proprietary fglrx driver for hardware accelleration though. |
| 23:08.02 | *** join/#debian atyoung (~atyoung@gateway/tor-sasl/darkwurm) |
| 23:08.03 | *** join/#debian tacos1de (~tacos1de@gateway/tor-sasl/tacos1de) |
| 23:09.07 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~shiva@gateway/tor-sasl/lordshiva) |
| 23:09.11 | *** join/#debian anoob (bd1e4caa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.30.76.170) |
| 23:09.34 | jarray52 | babilen: I already have xserver-xorg-video-radeon and libgl1-mesa-dri installed. |
| 23:09.52 | *** join/#debian donnerfels (~donnerfel@gateway/tor-sasl/donnerfels) |
| 23:10.00 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 23:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1252] by debhelper |
| 23:10.05 | *** join/#debian f4r4y (~f4r4y@201-29-86-99.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 23:10.17 | babilen | jarray52: Make sure to install the firmware too and you should be good. |
| 23:10.35 | jarray52 | babilen: Is the firmware open source? |
| 23:10.51 | babilen | no, it is not |
| 23:12.08 | babilen | But a lot of hardware requires binary blobs these days. Radon GPUs and AMD/Intel processors are among them. See "/msg dpkg radeon firmware" and "/msg dpkg microcode" for details. if you have that hardware you should install it. Yes, this is very unfortunate, but simply the way it is. (shouldn't have bought that hardware in the first place) |
| 23:12.52 | anoob | my video performance is really bad using fglrx. any tip to fix this? |
| 23:13.01 | anoob | it used to work well |
| 23:13.18 | bernat | anoob, maybe it's the firmware you're missing |
| 23:13.21 | jarray52 | babilen: I have another graphics card I plan to install. I'll install the firmware after installing the new graphics card. |
| 23:13.37 | anoob | bernat, thanks ... how could i check that? |
| 23:13.52 | jarray52 | babilen: What cards provide open source firmware? |
| 23:13.54 | *** join/#debian mumpitze1 (~mumpitzel@p5DD07E4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:13.57 | bernat | anoob, jarray52, you just have to install linux-firmare-nonfree from non-free |
| 23:14.13 | bernat | !non-free |
| 23:14.13 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
| 23:14.55 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 23:15.04 | *** join/#debian f4r4y (~f4r4y@201-29-86-99.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 23:15.08 | abrotman | jarray52: firmware is a blob by nature |
| 23:15.13 | anoob | done, i'll test it :) |
| 23:15.18 | anoob | thanks bernat |
| 23:15.29 | bernat | jarray52, I understand your point but I see this firmware more like circuitry built with numbers. I'm not saying there shouldn't be any concern though. |
| 23:15.30 | anoob | should i restart the computer or xserver? |
| 23:15.40 | babilen | anoob: You might have misconfigured it or installed it not with DKMS -- See https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary -- I used to use radeon and was happy with that, but that wiki page should give you enough information to configure and install fglrx in a supported and well working way. We would have to see your Xorg.0.log and the output of "glxinfo" for further debugging though. |
| 23:16.28 | bernat | anoob, you should restart your computer |
| 23:16.31 | *** join/#debian witchmaster_ (~Bananaram@p5B0B3AE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:17.03 | anoob | babilen, i was just missing linux-firmware-nonfree ... i've already done what you pointed out ... |
| 23:17.16 | *** join/#debian desti_T2 (~desti@dslb-092-073-152-216.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:17.18 | anoob | installing with dkms and so on ... |
| 23:17.20 | babilen | anoob: You don't need firmware for fglrx |
| 23:18.10 | *** join/#debian multiHYP (~multiHYP@unaffiliated/multihyp) |
| 23:18.14 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 23:18.18 | multiHYP | hi everybody |
| 23:18.25 | *** join/#debian uNIXplumber (~uNIXplumb@ultimedia-linux.org) |
| 23:18.33 | anoob | babilen, no? |
| 23:18.34 | *** part/#debian desti_T2 (~desti@dslb-092-073-152-216.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:18.42 | *** part/#debian zaltekk (~zaltekk@c-24-19-135-246.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:19.09 | multiHYP | I have recently installed ubuntu-desktop via apt-get and cannot startx the gui so that I can use the system via vnc remote. what has gone wrong with my ubuntu server? |
| 23:19.14 | babilen | anoob: No, that is one of the things that make fglrx proprietary -- It already comes with the firmware. |
| 23:19.31 | anoob | oh, i see babilen ... |
| 23:19.42 | peterrooney | multiHYP: you should take a closer look at the channel name |
| 23:20.20 | multiHYP | i know its debian, but most of the packages i installed are debian… would really appreciate a bit of help if possible. |
| 23:20.31 | abrotman | multiHYP: Wrong channel, please use #ubuntu |
| 23:20.37 | multiHYP | ok |
| 23:20.39 | jarray52 | I installed the firmware... going to reboot |
| 23:21.34 | *** join/#debian VsioZashibis (~VsioZashi@li469-37.members.linode.com) |
| 23:21.50 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 23:22.03 | bernat | anoob, so if it's faster with the firmware it might be because you're not really using fglrx |
| 23:22.03 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 23:23.05 | abrotman | thought the firmware was for the radeon driver, not fglrx |
| 23:23.31 | bernat | got confused about that |
| 23:24.04 | *** join/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 23:25.02 | *** join/#debian anoob (bd1e4caa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.189.30.76.170) |
| 23:25.08 | aguitel | how install google earth legacy in wheezy ? |
| 23:25.37 | *** join/#debian Vicissitude (~Vicissitu@pdpc/supporter/active/vicissitude) |
| 23:25.42 | abrotman | aguitel: there's a googleearth package |
| 23:26.12 | bernat | !googleearth |
| 23:26.12 | dpkg | Google Earth is a proprietary geographic information program, which cannot be distributed by any third party. To build a Debian package of Google Earth: ask me about <contrib>, install the googleearth-package package and read /usr/share/doc/googleearth-package/README.Debian. http://earth.google.com/ |
| 23:26.25 | anoob | after following your advice it's still slow :S glxgears on fullscreen is almost stopping ... |
| 23:26.53 | aguitel | abrotman, but with this package ,no panoramio photos are showing |
| 23:27.03 | jarray52 | bernat: Now, I see the activities. The script also auto executes when gnome starts. |
| 23:27.07 | jarray52 | bernat: Thanks. |
| 23:27.21 | abrotman | aguitel: are you sure they're supposed t show? |
| 23:27.34 | bernat | jarray52, great! I wasn't it would be related |
| 23:27.37 | aguitel | abrotman, yes |
| 23:27.47 | bernat | wasn't sure* |
| 23:28.35 | *** join/#debian biojaw (~user@bcs-jaw.ucsd.edu) |
| 23:28.54 | bernat | !tell anoob -about fglrx |
| 23:29.22 | abrotman | aguitel: seems to be many hits about that not working on google |
| 23:30.23 | aguitel | abrotman, googleearth 7.x are buggy |
| 23:30.28 | *** join/#debian l4sh (~l4sh@unaffiliated/l4sh) |
| 23:30.59 | abrotman | aguitel: did you google to solve your problem? |
| 23:31.03 | bernat | aguitel, since the Debian package just repackages the original binaries I guess it's not the package fault |
| 23:31.05 | abrotman | it's apparently a common bug related to Qt |
| 23:31.27 | abrotman | aguitel: maybe you should try doing a bit of research before coming here |
| 23:32.10 | aguitel | abrotman, bernat google package are fine |
| 23:33.14 | frustrum | hi |
| 23:34.18 | *** part/#debian frustrum (~user@bcs-jaw.ucsd.edu) |
| 23:34.41 | *** join/#debian kingsley (~kingsley@174-31-231-41.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 23:35.32 | *** join/#debian kuhweek (~kuhweek@client-75-102-127-45.mobility-up.psu.edu) |
| 23:35.35 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 23:35.53 | *** join/#debian KiSM (~quassel@CPE-60-228-246-251.lns2.wel.bigpond.net.au) |
| 23:35.57 | *** join/#debian k-t_ (~kt@p5DE86625.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:36.33 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 23:37.42 | *** join/#debian jaw044 (~user@bcs-jaw.ucsd.edu) |
| 23:38.27 | *** join/#debian oO0Oo (oO0Oo@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-jykexpjzhrszvqek) |
| 23:38.49 | multiHYP | guys how can I launch a gui from terminal? |
| 23:38.53 | multiHYP | startx fails |
| 23:38.59 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~p3rror@41.250.237.136) |
| 23:39.02 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 23:39.08 | multiHYP | [sudo lightedm start] fails too |
| 23:39.29 | multiHYP | it really is a complicated situation and ubuntu folks cannot solve it either. |
| 23:39.58 | multiHYP | I have sorted vnc out and installed ubuntu-desktop, but cannot get the gui to load/run. |
| 23:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1244] by debhelper |
| 23:40.19 | multiHYP | please help, i know its not strictly debian, but I would greatly appreciate your help. |
| 23:42.17 | *** join/#debian Dilo (~MGJTPWD@188.229.148.218) |
| 23:42.24 | *** join/#debian ChuMar1 (~ChuMar1@unaffiliated/chumar1) |
| 23:42.37 | bernat | multiHYP, it gets even more complicated when asking on the wrong channel |
| 23:42.47 | *** part/#debian Dilo (~MGJTPWD@188.229.148.218) |
| 23:43.14 | multiHYP | i did ask on ubuntu but obviously help didn't come. I'm hopelessly looking for something. |
| 23:43.27 | *** join/#debian RipresaTecn (~ripresate@unaffiliated/ripresatecn) |
| 23:43.58 | Vicissitude | you might try xinit |
| 23:44.05 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 23:44.44 | multiHYP | (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory (EE) No devices detected. |
| 23:44.55 | multiHYP | starts or xinit's errors ^ |
| 23:44.59 | multiHYP | startx |
| 23:45.06 | *** join/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 23:45.29 | abrotman | multiHYP: we already said, go to #ubuntu, end of discusssion |
| 23:45.40 | multiHYP | ok |
| 23:45.44 | multiHYP | sorry |
| 23:45.51 | jelly-home | multiHYP: or #ubuntu-server if that's what you're running, or ##linux |
| 23:46.03 | *** join/#debian mannyb_ (~quassel@63.80.104.2) |
| 23:46.05 | multiHYP | yep am in both of those |
| 23:46.51 | jelly-home | if there are people in here able to help, they'll join one of those channels and do it there |
| 23:47.57 | *** join/#debian carbohydrate (~carbohydr@cpe-173-88-164-162.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 23:48.18 | *** join/#debian ZetaNeta (~LoCoZeNoz@APoitiers-651-1-222-85.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:48.37 | *** part/#debian jarray52 (~purplehaz@unaffiliated/jarray52) |
| 23:48.39 | *** join/#debian master_o1_master (~master_of@p4FF24A84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:51.00 | *** join/#debian bitwave (~bitwave@c-68-47-12-21.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 23:51.02 | *** join/#debian bfortified (~bfortifie@unaffiliated/bfortified) |
| 23:51.08 | *** join/#debian hellome (~lua@192.73.239.25) |
| 23:52.55 | *** join/#debian ChuMar1 (~ChuMar1@unaffiliated/chumar1) |
| 23:55.06 | *** join/#debian kingsley (~kingsley@174-31-231-41.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 23:55.21 | *** join/#debian bit0 (~jantonio@61.Red-80-24-119.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
