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| 00:04.10 | peterrooney | multiHYP: the bot has the full explanation: /msg dpkg based on debian |
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| 00:04.38 | peterrooney | multiHYP: Also, /msg dpkg cross post |
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| 00:06.40 | abrotman | also, not on topic |
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| 00:23.24 | jarray52 | Is it possible to get a displaylink USB monitor working with Debian? |
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| 00:25.10 | mumpitze1 | afaik, usb videocards are not supported under xorg |
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| 00:26.19 | jarray52 | mumpitze1: That isn't entirely true. I was able to get a displaylink USB monitor working on Ubuntu. However, I was only able to use the displaylink USB monitor. And, I didn't write device drivers. |
| 00:26.45 | jarray52 | However, I was never able to get dual monitor working partly due to switcheable graphics cards. |
| 00:27.45 | jarray52 | mumpitze1: http://plugable.com/2011/12/23/usb-graphics-and-linux |
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| 00:31.53 | troulouliou_dev | hi is there an official way to change the debian menu logo ongnome-panel |
| 00:32.02 | abrotman | in gnome2? |
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| 00:34.09 | troulouliou_dev | abrotman, yes but i think this is it : http://www.tablix.org/~avian/blog/archives/2009/04/changing_gnome_menu_icon_debian_way/ |
| 00:34.23 | troulouliou_dev | abrotman, was afraid that a divert was mandatory |
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| 00:51.20 | ll_ | i've tried to subscribe to a bug a couple of times, but i never get a confirmation mail. is this something that others are experiencing as well, or am i doing something wrong? |
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| 00:53.24 | abrotman | checked your spam bucket? |
| 00:53.42 | ll_ | abrotman: yes. |
| 00:53.49 | ll_ | even tried multiple addresses. |
| 00:53.55 | abrotman | ll_: it also can take up to an hour |
| 00:54.12 | abrotman | rarely, but it can |
| 00:54.13 | ll_ | it's taken more than a day now. |
| 00:54.22 | abrotman | ll_: which bug, i'll try |
| 00:54.37 | ll_ | abrotman: 716999 |
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| 00:56.19 | abrotman | so you're sending a message to 716999-subscribe@bugs.debian.org ? |
| 00:57.02 | ll_ | abrotman: yes. without subject or body and with pgp signing turned off. |
| 00:58.18 | gnarface | i seem to recall waiting a lot longer than an hour |
| 00:59.02 | abrotman | shouldn't take that long .. |
| 00:59.05 | gnarface | ll_: if you're using yahoo, google, or hotmail for your mail account, note that THEIR spam filtering (especially yahoo's) may add several hours to the time |
| 00:59.29 | gnarface | they do paranoid non-standard shit like check that the reverse lookup matches the forward lookup |
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| 00:59.56 | ll_ | gnarface: i tried to subscribe the first time more than 30 hours ago. |
| 01:00.00 | gnarface | and if you get red-flagged, your mail goes into the sideline "super paranoia spam filtering cluster" and you don't get it out for 3 days even if you're lucky |
| 01:00.01 | abrotman | isn't sur ethat's so paranoid |
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| 01:00.27 | gnarface | has literally seen yahoo chew on mail it thought was spam for 3 whole days before delivery |
| 01:00.39 | gnarface | (on mail it thought *might* be spam) |
| 01:00.41 | abrotman | that's not caused by a DNS lookup |
| 01:00.51 | gnarface | no its caused by abusive mail filtering |
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| 01:01.03 | gnarface | but the point remains valid... he could be having a local issue |
| 01:01.06 | abrotman | sure .. if you say so .. |
| 01:01.06 | ll_ | shouldn't most major mail providers have whitelisted bugs.debian.org by now? |
| 01:01.18 | gnarface | ll_: hah! |
| 01:01.30 | gnarface | ll_: i like the fluffy nice world you live in. how can i get a ticket to there? |
| 01:01.41 | abrotman | ll_: there are different kinds of whitelisting |
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| 01:04.40 | gnarface | ll_: have you tried to subscribe with any email addresses which you own the server for. or have admin access on? it would be useful to debug this if you could watch the logs and see if any delivery attempts were refused |
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| 01:05.14 | ll_ | gnarface: i don't run any mail servers. |
| 01:05.34 | abrotman | ll_: you could possibly try asking #debian-bugs on irc.oftc.net if anyone is awake there |
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| 01:07.35 | sioux_ | Hi i trying compile squid 3.3.8 in debian wheezy, with this options http://pastebin.com/jBxBwicu, but when run make show this error http://pastebin.com/nUdVt3nd and exit. |
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| 01:08.17 | abrotman | sioux_: you're missing libssl-dev or something like that |
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| 01:08.41 | abrotman | probably also libcrypto<something>-dev |
| 01:11.48 | sioux_ | abrotman: i can't find the libssl-dev with apt-cache search libssl |
| 01:12.57 | sioux_ | abrotman: this is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/fegN21ji |
| 01:13.12 | abrotman | sioux_: apt-cache -- search ssl -dev |
| 01:13.34 | abrotman | i am so not entering a captcha to read that .. try paste.debian.net |
| 01:13.35 | abrotman | .win 7 |
| 01:13.57 | sioux_ | sorry |
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| 01:15.11 | sioux_ | abrotman: show this http://paste.debian.net/21887 |
| 01:15.54 | abrotman | pastebin your sources.list |
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| 01:18.20 | sioux_ | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/21888 |
| 01:18.25 | abrotman | ll_: i got my confirmation message already |
| 01:18.36 | ll_ | abrotman: hm. |
| 01:18.54 | abrotman | sioux_: when is the last time you did an apt-get update? |
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| 01:19.07 | sioux_ | before search.. |
| 01:19.37 | abrotman | sioux_: apt-cache -- search ssl -dev |
| 01:20.42 | sioux_ | abrotman: sorry, in last line of apt-get update.. show this error.. http://paste.debian.net/21889/ |
| 01:21.08 | abrotman | sioux_: debian, not debina |
| 01:21.21 | abrotman | sioux_: see line 3 of your sources.list |
| 01:21.33 | sioux_ | abrotman: oh .. ok |
| 01:21.35 | sioux_ | i saw |
| 01:22.02 | dvs | and why is it http.us.debian.org and not http.debian.net just like the last line? |
| 01:22.21 | dvs | doesn't realy matter... just sayin |
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| 01:26.51 | Pendrag0n | About to download a src tar and attempt to compile it and install myself. Download page is asking if the vps (server) is amd64, i386, etc. How do I find out? |
| 01:27.16 | beepie | Pendrag0n, a little google can tell ya |
| 01:27.43 | beepie | thinks u can name it! :D |
| 01:27.55 | Pendrag0n | not sure what words I am googling... |
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| 01:27.59 | Pendrag0n | is it "chipset" ? |
| 01:28.13 | sioux_ | abrotman: thanks, now i find |
| 01:28.15 | sioux_ | =) |
| 01:28.53 | sioux_ | but now show this erro http://paste.debian.net/21890/ |
| 01:28.56 | sioux_ | *error |
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| 01:29.57 | LtL | Pendrag0n: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 01:30.19 | kanzure | which font package do i want to install for jessie? |
| 01:30.50 | Pendrag0n | LtL: thanks, I found dpkg --print-architecture that worked |
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| 01:33.15 | abrotman | sioux_: you'll have to ask #squid .. i couldn't guess what's wrong with the code |
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| 01:33.37 | sioux_ | abrotman: whoever thanks guy! |
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| 01:37.16 | leemar | Anyone run skype manually (.gz), as opposed to the .deb ? Since my upgrade to wheezy, multiple libraries are missing but are there, ex. libXv.so.1 |
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| 01:41.21 | metasp | is there a sensible way to install drupal 6.2, debisn tsting thnx |
| 01:41.32 | metasp | debian testing* |
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| 01:47.43 | HiddenDjinn | quick q: can one invoke gpg with a non-default config and keyfiles? |
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| 01:52.38 | ll_ | HiddenDjinn: you can set the directory that contains the config file and keyrings with --homedir. |
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| 01:58.31 | HiddenDjinn | ll_: thanks |
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| 02:16.23 | martianlobster | I just installed debian wheezy on a server from a usb stick. I don't see eth0. According to the specs for the motherboard I have an Intel I210-AT nic. I installed the e1000e device driver. I can see e1000e in lsmod, and in the dmesg output, but alas, it doesn't see eth0. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can find eth0? |
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| 02:17.03 | dvs | martianlobster: lspci -nn | grep -i net |
| 02:17.27 | martianlobster | dvs: thans! |
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| 02:20.36 | martianlobster | dvs: OK I see it now. Intel Corp I210 Gigabit Network Connection [8086:1533] (rev 03) |
| 02:20.52 | dvs | ,pciid 8086:1533 |
| 02:20.54 | judd | [8086:1533] is 'I210 Gigabit Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:1533 |
| 02:21.12 | martianlobster | any suggestions on getting it to play nice with e1000e? |
| 02:21.15 | dvs | ??? |
| 02:21.30 | martianlobster | oooh ok, I need to folow that link |
| 02:21.47 | martianlobster | you are typing faster than me :-) |
| 02:22.41 | martianlobster | ok so I need to remove the e1000e module, and install ata_generic, and or snd-hda-intel. But before I do that I should probably read that whole link. |
| 02:22.54 | dvs | it looks like it uses the igb driver, whatever that is. |
| 02:23.12 | martianlobster | ok |
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| 02:32.47 | sioux_ | why show this warning http://paste.debian.net/21918/ ? |
| 02:32.54 | VsioZashibis | hi. how can I change the default text editor for cron, when typing "crontab -e" ? |
| 02:34.24 | abrotman | VsioZashibis: update-alternatives --config editor (IIRC) |
| 02:34.56 | martianlobster | after I modprobe a module, do I need to reboot? |
| 02:35.15 | martianlobster | or is there a faster way |
| 02:35.16 | dvs | martianlobster: no |
| 02:35.18 | VsioZashibis | abrotman: IIRC ? What is the command if I want to change it to vi editor ? |
| 02:35.44 | sioux_ | i resolved using this http://paste.debian.net/21924/ |
| 02:35.45 | abrotman | i told you |
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| 02:36.43 | phy1729 | I thought crontab read EDITOR |
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| 02:42.16 | VsioZashibis | abrotman: thanks that worked |
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| 02:43.14 | mx8manger | is there anyone awake |
| 02:43.25 | mx8manger | it turns out i am having issue in my Debian |
| 02:43.41 | mx8manger | i have good graphic card |
| 02:43.51 | mx8manger | but its all black and classic shit looking |
| 02:44.05 | mx8manger | how do i fix it to the cool 3d looking everyone have |
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| 02:44.30 | mx8manger | come on |
| 02:44.33 | mx8manger | someone help me |
| 02:44.39 | mx8manger | you KNOW WHAT |
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| 02:45.03 | mx8manger | FUCK YOU ALL CAUSE DEBIAN SUCKS COCKS |
| 02:45.09 | sioux_ | i installed ntp server, to windows client uses, need i install samba too? |
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| 02:45.22 | abrotman | mx8manger: that's enough of that, if you don't like it, just go use something else. |
| 02:45.24 | passstab | would someone please recommend tetris clones for debian? |
| 02:45.37 | martianlobster | after I reboot, all of the driver that I modprobed -i, to install are no longer there. All of the drivers that I modprobe -r, to remove are back again. Do I need to do something to save my changes? |
| 02:45.47 | phy1729 | sioux_: you shouldn't; but windows has terrible ntp support |
| 02:46.14 | abrotman | phy1729: besides the built-in client? |
| 02:46.30 | Vasistha | just purchased an ebay laptop, and it looks like the lcd display has been swapped from factory spec to a lower resolution one. Is there a way to detect the resolution of the lcd? Maybe with lspci? I can't find anything in dmidecode. |
| 02:46.31 | phy1729 | abrotman: hrm? |
| 02:47.10 | phy1729 | windows itself only guarentees time within 5 minutes so kerberos works. it makes no further guarentees towards accuracy |
| 02:47.20 | martianlobster | oooops, I need to edit /etc/modules |
| 02:47.22 | martianlobster | silly me |
| 02:49.00 | Vasistha | martianlobster: I use /etc/modprobe.d with several .conf files. |
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| 02:50.14 | martianlobster | Vasistha: interesting |
| 02:50.33 | dvs | Vasistha: Those are two different things. |
| 02:50.51 | dvs | Vasistha: The module has to be loaded before it can use .conf files. |
| 02:51.57 | Vasistha | dvs: I mean I populate the directory /etc/modprobe.d with .conf files that modprobe reads when loading (or deciding not to load) modules - at least I think that's how it works? |
| 02:52.32 | dvs | Vasistha: .conf files are for modules that are already loaded. |
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| 02:53.23 | Vasistha | dvs: some of those .conf files are blacklist files, are you saying it loads them and then unloads them? |
| 02:54.09 | dvs | Vasistha: no, I'm saying the opposite. |
| 02:54.30 | dvs | Vasistha: and martianlobster is trying to load a module that won't load automatically. |
| 02:54.45 | martianlobster | dvs: thanks |
| 02:55.03 | dvs | np |
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| 02:56.22 | Vasistha | dvs: so /etc/modprobe.d can control parameters to modules when they are loaded; and it can prevent modules from being loaded; but it will not CAUSE a module to be loaded at any particular time eg boot time? |
| 02:56.49 | dvs | Vasistha: That's what I'm saying, yes. |
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| 02:57.44 | NSA_is_Stasi-V2 | hi |
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| 03:00.45 | NSA_is_Stasi-V2 | i've installed debian squeeze using an old (2012) usb image (a netinstall) . Then i updated it to wheezy but during the upgrade i get the error "WARNING: digest algorithm MD5 is deprecated" when it checks the keys. How can i fix that? i dont want apt to use MD5 |
| 03:01.19 | Vasistha | thanks dvs |
| 03:01.26 | dvs | no prob |
| 03:04.54 | martianlobster | OK, so I have tried installing, the modules, igb, ata_generic and snd_hda_intel, and rebeooting, but alas eth0 is not seen when I reboot. I have also tried removing the e100 and e1000 modules, and rebooting only with e1000e, and it does not work. lspci -nn, clearly shows that I have two Intel I210 nics on my system, but I can't get them recognized as eth0 or eth1. Does anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 03:10.26 | martianlobster | dvs: the Intel site agrees that I should use igb https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=13663 |
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| 03:12.53 | martianlobster | after I modprobe -i igb, to install. IS there anything I should do, to tell the igb module to look for the nics? it doesn't show up in dmesg. |
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| 03:15.11 | martianlobster | the readme file told me how to use ifconfig, after I install igb |
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| 03:18.37 | Vasistha | wow I just can't find anything ... dmidecode, lspci, dmidecode, not sure what else to try - can't get a report of lcd resolution |
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| 03:21.25 | Te3-BloodyIron | im having some issues mounting nfs on boot |
| 03:21.40 | Te3-BloodyIron | first, when the share mounts it is 777 and uid and gid 1001 |
| 03:21.47 | Te3-BloodyIron | instead of root:root, which is what I would prefer |
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| 03:22.05 | Te3-BloodyIron | second, when I try to add a second paramter to the fstab for the nfs share, the mounting fails |
| 03:22.12 | Te3-BloodyIron | and it seems no matter what parameter i set |
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| 03:46.10 | NSA_is_Stasi-V2 | Vasistha: xrand ? |
| 03:49.02 | NSA_is_Stasi-V2 | i've installed debian squeeze using an old (2012) usb image (a netinstall) . Then i updated it to wheezy but during the upgrade i get the error "WARNING: digest algorithm MD5 is deprecated" when it checks the keys. How can i fix that? i dont want apt to use MD5 |
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| 03:56.05 | milo64 | ... |
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| 04:11.02 | Owner | why are some packages 'kept back' ? |
| 04:12.14 | themill | !kept back |
| 04:12.15 | dpkg | rumour has it, kept back is when packages have not been upgraded even though newer versions are available. This happens if dependencies cannot be resolved, packages are on hold or you used "upgrade" not "full-upgrade" and old packages need to be removed as part of the upgrade. To investigate, "aptitude -s install <kept-package>". See also http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69 and ask me about <full-upgrade>. |
| 04:12.46 | themill | usually, it just means you should use dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade) rather than just "upgrade" |
| 04:12.53 | grim4593 | i never knew full-upgrade existed. |
| 04:13.24 | themill | grim4593: it's just a better name for dist-upgrade used by aptitude |
| 04:13.51 | Owner | ok |
| 04:14.20 | grim4593 | for me usally kernel upgrades are always held back unless i explicitly install them |
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| 04:23.21 | milo64 | does debian have jtr community enhanced version on repo? |
| 04:24.48 | milo64 | got it... nvm |
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| 04:29.11 | Owner | nvm? |
| 04:29.17 | Owner | node version manager |
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| 04:31.26 | milo64 | Owner: never mind |
| 04:31.31 | milo64 | nvm = never mind |
| 04:33.16 | Owner | not anymore! |
| 04:33.33 | Owner | good software :) |
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| 05:09.55 | HumbleBIOS | I tell you what I've never EVER been so gutted by an OS as I have been today by Sabayon - Why? Well first of all I wasted 1.7GB+ on my datacap downloading the 64bit turns out Virtualbox dont like it wasted that all over again getting the 32bit and ur image is f0rk3d, dont sit there and say it works tried it on 3 different computers 2 on virtualization and one on DVD, http://i.imgur.com/sAT1KqJ.png |
| 05:10.00 | HumbleBIOS | d http://i.imgur.com/39eItp4.png - I thought you guys knew what you were doing? - No? Why do you waste the internets bandwith with releasing bad software that doesn't boot at all then? |
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| 05:10.08 | HumbleBIOS | Sabayon used to be by OS of choice, now it won't even boot no matter what the hardware. |
| 05:10.16 | HumbleBIOS | Debian installs/works fine so does every other linux os just not that one and I've downloaded the image from different IP's even different links from my VPS from my home PC through torrents through proxies EVERYTHING. It just means this Release of Sabayon was a failure and does not work at all period. |
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| 05:10.49 | HumbleBIOS | the debian net install works 100% like it always does good job Debain ^_^ |
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| 05:14.47 | zerox | Anybody use xmobar? the "DiskIO" plugin always show disk read/write rate as 0. |
| 05:15.33 | HumbleBIOS | There's a bug in the current release zerox try using a previous version grab a .deb and use gdebi to install it. |
| 05:17.32 | peterrooney | cross post |
| 05:17.37 | zerox | I'm on wheezy and xmobar version is 0.14-4, which version could be working? |
| 05:18.41 | HumbleBIOS | zerox, http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xmobar/xmobar_0.11-2_i386.deb |
| 05:19.40 | zerox | HumbleBIOS: Thanks a lot. But 0.11 seems a little old... |
| 05:20.08 | HumbleBIOS | It does but whatever works right? |
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| 05:21.39 | zerox | Will try it. Could this work? http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xmobar/xmobar_0.18-2_i386.deb |
| 05:22.42 | HumbleBIOS | It'll work if the dependencies are satisfied zerox, even I couldn't tell you what one will say ok and which won't you've just got to run them past gdebi and see what it says if it can install them and do it all for you automagically it will :) |
| 05:24.07 | zerox | Never heard of gdebi before, is it superior comparing to "dpki -i"? |
| 05:24.34 | mx8manger | help |
| 05:24.55 | mx8manger | debian is good and everything but 3d isnot working why |
| 05:24.58 | mx8manger | ? |
| 05:25.06 | mx8manger | where i can find that setting |
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| 05:29.02 | HumbleBIOS | zerox, it works well if u have a gui. |
| 05:29.11 | HumbleBIOS | It's n00b friendly if you will. |
| 05:30.06 | HumbleBIOS | zerox, http://i.imgur.com/wtJZ6Qr.jpg <-- ^_^ |
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| 05:32.58 | zerox | HumbleBIOS: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ??? |
| 05:33.20 | HumbleBIOS | zerox, I'm installing debian as we speak that was the snapshots point. |
| 05:33.22 | HumbleBIOS | :P |
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| 05:34.47 | zerox | I reckon there might be a need to install the sid flavor... Just upgraded from squeeze to wheezy, and there is already a outdated non-working program "xmobar"... |
| 05:35.35 | HumbleBIOS | Make sure your libraries are up-to-date zerox ! You might be able to get away with a previous to ur current version. I'll check for you! save you somet time, what version of debian are you running?? |
| 05:36.02 | zerox | I'm running debian wheeyz now on the work PC. |
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| 05:36.24 | zerox | Because I'm also afraid of something broken after apt-get upgrade on sid. |
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| 05:36.56 | zerox | I am also using virtualbox on my laptop, and in the VM I installed sid. |
| 05:37.21 | zerox | But for this work PC, it's Linux only. Not in VM. |
| 05:38.10 | HumbleBIOS | "Because I'm also afraid of something broken after apt-get upgrade on sid." Don't be afraid should be okay. |
| 05:38.22 | HumbleBIOS | Now what version of debian are you wanting the xmobar.deb to work on? |
| 05:38.56 | zerox | That seems to be happening, at least on stable you never worry such possibility. |
| 05:39.25 | zerox | I'm tinkering with wheezy now. |
| 05:39.41 | zerox | I may try compiling xmobar from source, lol~ |
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| 05:42.42 | HumbleBIOS | zerox, I highly suggest not doing that but okay. |
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| 05:45.35 | mx8manger | http://postimg.org/image/e7kd6owxh/ |
| 05:45.51 | rmdashrf | I installed bumblebee on my optimus laptop as specified in the wiki, but when I try to "update-alternatives --set glx /usr/lib/mesa-diverted", update-alternatives complains that /usr/lib/mesa-diverted is not registered. |
| 05:46.03 | mx8manger | help please check the snapshot |
| 05:46.06 | rmdashrf | which step did I overlook? |
| 05:46.13 | mx8manger | how can i fix my debian |
| 05:46.44 | zerox | HumbleBIOS: Anyway xmobar-0.18 requires X11 >= 1.6, but wheezy has only X11 1.5, so build failed. :-) |
| 05:47.52 | mx8manger | come on someone look at it http://postimg.org/image/e7kd6owxh/ |
| 05:48.16 | mx8manger | come on |
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| 06:03.37 | Alina-malina | Hello all! I have an ancient pentium4 without cd-rom, currently running windows XP, i am trying to install Debian from usb stick, but when i boot from USB i get nothing but blinking cursor, what debian package i should instsall and now i should do this to avoid that blinking cursor and install debian, i want only console mode of Debian, nothing graphical interface. |
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| 06:05.17 | HumbleBIOS | Alina-malina, Easy, get on Windows XP, grab unetbootin, make it install debian-net-install to the flash drive, and BOOM you'll plug that bad boy usb into a PC boot the usb drive and the installer will load reboot after install remove usb and boom its done it also has graphical or console option but unetbootin will pick console over gui for obvious reasons Alina-malina |
| 06:06.03 | Alina-malina | yes, i did exactly that but when i start machine with USB i get only blinking cursor |
| 06:06.23 | HumbleBIOS | You did something wrong or picked the wrong debian version it works fine with me just did it right now, have you tried another usb ? |
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| 06:07.06 | Alina-malina | i will try another usb, just a moment, what debian version should i pick? I have the netnstall.iso |
| 06:07.30 | HumbleBIOS | Oh boy don't ever use the .iso image option Alina-malina . |
| 06:07.53 | Alina-malina | could you give me a link pleasE? |
| 06:07.54 | HumbleBIOS | let unetbootin download it and configure it for u! debian_stable_net_install NOT browse for .iso |
| 06:07.59 | Alina-malina | oh ok |
| 06:08.03 | Alina-malina | just a moment |
| 06:08.07 | HumbleBIOS | Well I could, but it's best to use the installer to do it. |
| 06:08.40 | HumbleBIOS | if it doesn't work due to maybe say, poor website or missing files, download http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.1.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso |
| 06:08.43 | themill | Alina-malina: how are you making the USB stick |
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| 06:08.56 | HumbleBIOS | themill, No one just makes USB sticks -_- |
| 06:09.14 | HumbleBIOS | They are made already from the OEM. |
| 06:09.21 | HumbleBIOS | You buy them from a shop. |
| 06:09.21 | themill | ok.... let me rephrase. How are you copying the ISO onto the USB stick. |
| 06:09.27 | Alina-malina | i tried different ways from unetbootin to LinuxLive USB Creator 2.8.23 |
| 06:09.33 | HumbleBIOS | Oh, sorry misunderstanding sorry themill |
| 06:09.34 | themill | unetbootin is known not to work |
| 06:09.41 | HumbleBIOS | ^ Lies, but kinda true. |
| 06:09.58 | HumbleBIOS | Unetbootin is working right now for me on a pentium dual core and a pentium single core both are booting it perfectly |
| 06:10.00 | HumbleBIOS | hold on. |
| 06:10.16 | HumbleBIOS | Do you want me to make a quick video Alina-malina and prove it works? |
| 06:10.17 | themill | HumbleBIOS: umm... we get a dozen or so people per day here where unetbootin doesn't work for them with the debian installer. |
| 06:10.37 | themill | Alina-malina: http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ or the setup.exe both work fine with windows |
| 06:10.40 | themill | !setup.exe |
| 06:10.40 | dpkg | setup.exe is a way of installing Debian from Windows using <CD1>, just insert the CD/DVD and let it AutoRun; packages are acquired from this media if available. You can also use it from a USB install. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s01#boot-win32 for more details. See also <win32-loader>. |
| 06:10.43 | HumbleBIOS | I'd find that very inconsistant and only possible to happen *IF* and this is a big *IF* the AUTO detection of URL based on country has missing files. |
| 06:10.49 | HumbleBIOS | New Zealand doesn't have that issue tho. |
| 06:10.56 | Alina-malina | HumbleBIOS, i dont want any proofs i have facts that it is not working with unetboting, i am trying another usb |
| 06:10.59 | HumbleBIOS | Alina-malina, Forget that idea. |
| 06:11.03 | HumbleBIOS | Alina-malina, Question |
| 06:11.14 | HumbleBIOS | Would you mind not using any USBs or any cds and dual boot with windows and debian? |
| 06:11.36 | Alina-malina | how? |
| 06:11.36 | themill | HumbleBIOS: it's nothing to do with mirrors, it's the way the installer ends up seeing the usb stick. It normally dies later during the install not right at the start like this, however. |
| 06:11.39 | HumbleBIOS | http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/stable/win32-loader.exe <--- Alina-malina |
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| 06:11.53 | Alina-malina | ok just a moment i try it |
| 06:11.58 | HumbleBIOS | well dont worry themill we will abandon the usb idea and have debian install itself inside windows. |
| 06:12.00 | HumbleBIOS | ok Alina-malina |
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| 06:36.05 | w1ck3dg0ph3r | !dpkg byobu |
| 06:36.06 | dpkg | byobu is a set of useful profiles and a profile-switcher for GNU <screen>, packaged for Squeeze. https://launchpad.net/byobu |
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| 06:45.02 | HumbleBIOS | Alina-malina Alina-malina end up working? |
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| 06:47.22 | Alina-malina | please bear with me, now i have network problem, i am trying to fix this, i will let you know definitely! |
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| 06:53.45 | HumbleBIOS | Alina-malina, take your time, I'm here to help, if you need help "network" wise, I can help with that I'm a fully registered network consultant with ICANN. :) |
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| 06:56.52 | administrator | hello |
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| 06:58.53 | bluesm | Is there a command to make a folder and enters it. ? |
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| 06:59.33 | themill | you could make an alias in your shell that does that. |
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| 07:00.21 | HumbleBIOS | bluesm, unlike the unhelpful ops that just tell you what you can do, not how to do it, just do this mkdir <folder-name> && cd <folder-name> |
| 07:00.22 | themill | s/alias/function/ |
| 07:00.39 | HumbleBIOS | Oh I see what you mean now bluesm, sec. |
| 07:00.48 | themill | HumbleBIOS: you can be as snide as you want, but that's utterly unhelpful. |
| 07:01.11 | HumbleBIOS | themill, No, what's unhelpful is telling someone what they can do instead of how to do it. |
| 07:01.17 | themill | untrue. |
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| 07:01.38 | HumbleBIOS | What's unhelpful is useless information, GOOGLE can tell people what they can do, if you're gonna helpful offer a damn example to help out someone who is learning, rather then trying to start a fight with me, Thanks. |
| 07:02.26 | bluesm | Free will, if somebody want help in this way, or that way he/she could... |
| 07:02.31 | themill | Helping people learn the right keywords to help themselves is the preferred approach here. You can argue about this for as long as you like. |
| 07:03.24 | bluesm | Ok. Where is the file that have Bash functions ? And where I could add my function ? |
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| 07:03.50 | HumbleBIOS | themill, It's not only faster and people appreciate that you go to the effort of showing them how to do it, its actually easier and saves them bandwith for looking up something when its already hard enough for the poor sod to try find his way around the world, sometimes the HARDER is better LET THEM FEND FOR THEMSELVES or they DONT DESERVE IT APPROACH is only that of an idiot, NOT CALLING YOU AN IDIOT |
| 07:03.51 | HumbleBIOS | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:03.55 | themill | bluesm: bash startup files are a bit of a mess. ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile are the normal places you'd put this |
| 07:04.15 | themill | HumbleBIOS: and yet the help you gave was utterly wrong. Keep arguing. You're going *really* well. |
| 07:04.37 | HumbleBIOS | ... now insults and false information? |
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| 07:04.46 | HumbleBIOS | Now I'm getting slightly angry and I'm dropping this convo before I drop your connection. |
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| 07:04.55 | HumbleBIOS | hopes you'll give him reason to. |
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| 07:07.11 | themill | bluesm: you can /msg dpkg dotfiles; /msg dpkg bash login scripts |
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| 07:07.43 | themill | bluesm: I'd suggest just doing it in your current shell to decide that it works and you like it before baking it into your login scripts |
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| 07:10.19 | korn36 | hello |
| 07:10.36 | korn36 | is there a way to purge all packages from a repository in sources.list? |
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| 07:11.39 | themill | korn36: depends on how the repository is set up in its Release file. Which specific repo? |
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| 07:19.12 | bluesm | themill: bash_profile execute ONLY on login. But bashrc executes on every instance of bash (including login session) |
| 07:19.14 | bluesm | ? |
| 07:19.57 | korn36 | themill: deb-multimedia |
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| 07:21.26 | sh00p | So I've multistrapped emdebian grip (squeeze) onto a compact flash card. I've gotten it to boot nicely and all. Got everything I need on there, but one thing is grinding my gears. The /etc/network/interfaces file doesn't seem to be read automatically. I need to manually set interface configuration every boot |
| 07:21.37 | sh00p | of course I can hack it in rc.local... |
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| 07:21.52 | sh00p | but that's not what I want, anybody knows why the /etc/network/interfaces file might not be read= |
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| 07:25.33 | oxxxybananas | hi guyz |
| 07:25.37 | oxxxybananas | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-M9mrg-_oNl8/UH-qDsulHZI/AAAAAAAAK_4/xEge8znDB1w/s1600/xubuntu12.10-login-screen.png |
| 07:25.47 | oxxxybananas | which LM on this screenshot?( |
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| 07:26.06 | korn36 | themill: nevermind, i think i found a way to do it |
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| 07:26.27 | nkuttler | oxxxybananas: ask #xubuntu or somesuch |
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| 07:26.38 | oxxxybananas | nkuttler: ok thx |
| 07:27.07 | korn36 | probably lightdm |
| 07:27.19 | oxxxybananas | korn36: right) |
| 07:27.24 | oxxxybananas | thx |
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| 07:27.59 | korn36 | how can i feed a .txt file as a list of packages to apt-get? |
| 07:29.12 | korn36 | cat x.txt | sudo apt-get remove - doesn't work |
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| 07:29.54 | rmdashrf | apt-get remove $(cat x.txt) ? |
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| 07:31.52 | korn36 | rmdashrf: i think it worked |
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| 07:37.05 | mywebcompute_ | Database connection lost! 5 retries until I give up entirely! |
| 07:37.07 | korn36 | if i remove a repo from sources.list and dist-upgrade after that, will packages from that repo be downgraded to older versions from official debian repos? |
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| 07:37.33 | sw_ | korn36: no |
| 07:37.45 | korn36 | how to do that so it will downgrade? |
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| 07:38.33 | korn36 | i don't need debian-multimedia anymore and i want to downgrade some packages to official versions from debian repositories |
| 07:39.19 | sw_ | korn36: look up pinning |
| 07:40.22 | korn36 | deb-multimedia was for testing and i run testing. will pinning everything to testing downgrade packages from a repo for testing? |
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| 07:42.13 | korn36 | sw_: thanks. emergency downgrade is now running |
| 07:42.47 | korn36 | i hope it won't break anything |
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| 07:44.17 | sw_ | korn36: i'd rather try on a vm before :-) |
| 07:44.40 | korn36 | it's too late! |
| 07:45.14 | rmdashrf | worst case you can do a aptitude search "?installed?origin(multimedia)" | cut -d " " -f3 | grep -v '^$' to get all of the packages installed from multimedia, do an apt-get remove, then install them back from stable |
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| 07:49.05 | korn36 | removing deb-multimedia solved my dependency issues |
| 07:49.13 | korn36 | i don't even know why i had this repo added |
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| 07:51.50 | bluesm | What "rc" mean ? |
| 07:51.53 | bluesm | vimrc bashrc |
| 07:51.54 | bluesm | ? |
| 07:52.01 | bluesm | resource? |
| 07:52.14 | sw_ | blue: Removed Config left |
| 07:52.44 | sw_ | blue: nevermind :) i need a coffee |
| 07:54.28 | bluesm | sw_: What ? :D |
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| 07:55.00 | sw_ | bluesm: you now know the meaning of rc in dpkg :) |
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| 07:56.11 | bluesm | sw_: I'm afraid I'm not. |
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| 08:30.09 | Rix | hi i've extended my network range to cidr 28 and my routing table is correct, but in ifconfig it shows netmask that is for 29 (because the first time i configured it i think i did it with ifconfig), if i change the netmask using ifconfig eth0 netmask 255.255.255.240 will there be a problem or interruptions (because there are 2 broadcasts now and i want to use the one for normal ip) |
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| 08:33.51 | ChrisH | Rix: can you show us ifconfig -a on paste.debian.net please? I do not understand the "2 broadcasts" Part. |
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| 08:40.53 | Rix | http://pastebin.com/KuiEzXeg |
| 08:40.55 | Rix | òõàíêñ |
| 08:40.58 | Rix | thanks * |
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| 08:48.11 | ChrisH | Rix: I cannot see any eth0 and eth1 does not seem to have an IP assigned |
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| 08:48.40 | Rix | it is bridged via br0 |
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| 08:49.20 | Rix | everything is working fine, but when i want to use .135 it says it is a broadcast (but .159 is the broadcast now) so i checked and see the mask is 248 but it must be 240 i think, si my question is if i change it will i break sth |
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| 08:56.33 | ChrisH | Rix: you did not mention the bridge before. Sorry, I never used bridges in Debian. |
| 08:56.46 | hR13 | Hi All, Im using tomboy for my notetaking and I always wanted to sync them tom my Galaxy Note phone, since Im not a big fan of cloud services I have not been able to. but not when I started playing with btsync (http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html great software) I synced my Notes folder to my tomdriod folder on my phone but the phone will not read the subfolders where all the .note files are any one with any suggestions? any hel |
| 08:56.47 | hR13 | p will be much appreciated |
| 08:56.49 | Rix | no sorry |
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| 08:57.40 | Shadur | aaaaaarghs and kicks dnssec/rollerd repeatedly in the nads. |
| 08:59.18 | Shadur | I'm setting up DNSSEC and key rollover according to http://www.howtoforge.com/configuring-dnssec-on-bind9-9.7.3-on-debian-squeeze-ubuntu-11.10-p4 and everything /seems/ to be working fine, but any attempt to use rollctl to get a clue as to whether rollerd is working results in the cryptic error message "configuration checks failed, can't send commands" without ANY indication where to look for the /reason/ said checks failed, or what file they failed ON |
| 09:00.11 | Shadur | Googling for the error message doesn't get me much closer than the manpage which tells me that error code 201 means "configuration file checks failed" but also declines to elaborate, and the perl source code is little to no help either. |
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| 09:11.34 | jubei | guys how can I get a list of all disks, is fdisk -l correct? |
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| 09:12.11 | hR13 | my mistake, I synced my ssh-sync folder instead of the real one. |
| 09:12.28 | tremon | jubei: disks or partitions? |
| 09:12.40 | jubei | tremon, physical disks |
| 09:13.00 | ChrisH | jubei: lshw -sort -C disk as root |
| 09:13.08 | ChrisH | jubei: lshw -short -C disk as root |
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| 09:14.09 | jubei | ChrisH, that didn't work, only showed me one SCSI CD-ROM |
| 09:14.24 | jubei | I'm on a debian kvm guest, disks are /dev/vda /dev/cdb etc |
| 09:14.27 | jubei | dunno if that's important |
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| 09:14.50 | nkuttler | jubei: i like to look at /proc/partitions |
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| 09:16.29 | jubei | nkuttler, what if a disk isn't mounted, will it still show up there? |
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| 09:17.22 | nkuttler | jubei: sure |
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| 09:19.30 | n3rV3 | jubei, use: sudo blkid |
| 09:19.45 | n3rV3 | its helpfull and gives drive labels etc |
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| 09:21.05 | jubei | n3rV3, ChrisH, nkuttler , thanks! |
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| 09:33.00 | ChrisH | lsblk is another nice command, but similar to blkid it shows partitions not disks. |
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| 09:34.22 | n3rV3 | ChrisH, lsblk shows partitions and disks too |
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| 09:34.44 | n3rV3 | at least here on Jessie it does |
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| 09:41.51 | _val_ | Hello everyone. Trying to change a unix password which is member of a Windows active directory. Changing the password gives the following error: https://dpaste.de/jRrAw/ I have the error log attached. user ''val'' is not a local user hence the error there. How can I resolve the issue? |
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| 09:50.50 | ChrisH | n3rV3: confirmed. |
| 09:52.35 | n3rV3 | ChrisH, lsblk -f, uses blkid, but i like its output more than blkid |
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| 09:53.21 | boudiccas | how do i tell that 'spamd' is running please? i dont seem to see it in 'atop's display |
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| 09:54.53 | _val_ | boudiccas: ps waux|grep spamd or pstree |
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| 09:55.35 | boudiccas | thanks |
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| 10:07.58 | darkskiez | ok, ctrl-c doesnt work even from the bash console of a machine im sshing into to terminate a command, stty shows intr=^C, and I can type ctrl-v ctrl-c to see the char. any suggestions? |
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| 10:13.10 | z3l | Hello. |
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| 10:14.15 | z3l | I am using xfce with default terminal emulator, when I open irssi I am unable to change the windows (alt+window number). It simply types 2 for example. Is there any way to bypass it? |
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| 10:15.07 | z3l | Or perhaps it is a wrong channel to ask it. |
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| 10:15.21 | z3l | Anyway I will be grateful for any answer. |
| 10:16.14 | cmoy | z31 are you using xfce4-terminal ? |
| 10:17.10 | _val_ | z3l: /windows 3,4,5,6 for now |
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| 10:17.21 | z3l | cmoy: I do not know how to check it properly, however when I went into preferred applications settings, it says Debian X Terminal Emulator. |
| 10:17.35 | _val_ | Hello everyone. Trying to change a unix password which is member of a Windows active directory. Changing the password gives the following error: https://dpaste.de/jRrAw/ I have the error log attached. user ''val'' is not a local user hence the error there. How can I resolve the issue? |
| 10:18.09 | z3l | cmoy: /window 3,4,5,6 :) Thank's. |
| 10:18.11 | cmoy | z31, try apt-get install xfce4-terminal then open a new terminal and try it |
| 10:18.18 | z3l | cmoy: Ok, thank you. |
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| 10:19.28 | _val_ | z3l: alt+<> works too |
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| 10:19.35 | cmoy | z3l, depends how you installed xfce, if you just did the core install without the goodies, the basic terminal is a bit lacking |
| 10:19.39 | z3l | cmoy: Let me relog. |
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| 10:20.17 | z3l | cmoy: Thank you, it looks better and works as it should. |
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| 10:20.26 | cmoy | z3l, depends how you installed xfce, if you just did the core install without the goodies, the basic terminal is a bit lacking |
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| 10:20.42 | z3l | cmoy: I've installed it without the goodies. |
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| 10:21.29 | z3l | cmoy: I've got second question - How can I set xpdf to be default pdf reader under file manager as well as iceweasel (in iceweasel I have edited it in settings, but it did not change anything) |
| 10:21.37 | z3l | cmoy: Currently gimp opens it. |
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| 10:23.05 | cmoy | z3l, you could right click a pdf in thunar and bring up properties and select what to open it with |
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| 10:23.44 | LordDeath | is it normal that the upgrade from squeeze to wheezy removes mysql? |
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| 10:24.13 | z3l | cmoy: Oh, so simple. It fixed it. Thank you! |
| 10:25.09 | cmoy | z3l, no problem, I don't normally help here, like to just sit on chnnel to laern ever now and then, but I'm a xfce fan so glad I could help |
| 10:25.20 | cmoy | *channel |
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| 10:25.58 | z3l | cmoy: I have tried kde and gnome before. Xfce suits me most. |
| 10:26.31 | cmoy | same here, and lxde a bit lacking |
| 10:26.41 | z3l | cmoy: What is funny, I have a pretty good machine there. Kde and gnome lags (weird). I suppose they aren't properly coded. |
| 10:27.31 | cmoy | z31 we should prolly move to #debian-offtopic |
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| 10:29.00 | jelly | LordDeath: it's not the first time someone reported that |
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| 10:29.19 | WormFood | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681854 <-- this page says to set "APT::Install-Recommends "false", but I have no idea where to put that settings. Also, I'm guessing the missing quote around "false" is a typo. Where do I put this setting? |
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| 10:30.50 | LordDeath | jelly: is mysql 5.1 still in wheezy or do we have to upgrade to 5.5? |
| 10:31.08 | jelly | ,v mysql-server-5.1 |
| 10:31.10 | judd | Package: mysql-server-5.1 on i386 -- squeeze: 5.1.49-3; squeeze-security: 5.1.66-0+squeeze1 |
| 10:31.20 | jelly | LordDeath: seems like you have to upgrade |
| 10:31.51 | LordDeath | then I have some additional documentation to read :) |
| 10:32.18 | LordDeath | this will be my first dist-upgrade on a real server :-> |
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| 10:41.38 | \du | hello, i am doing a apt-get -f -y --force-yes install but anyway apt-get give a pront asking me if i want override a file or not.. the -y and --force-yes doesn't work |
| 10:41.44 | \du | any idea why ? |
| 10:42.10 | \du | see the -f option that i am using to solve unmet dependency |
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| 10:49.42 | WormFood | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681854 <-- this page says to set "APT::Install-Recommends "false", but I have no idea where to put that settings. Also, I'm guessing the missing quote around "false" is a typo. Where do I put this setting? |
| 10:51.07 | el-linedash | http://blog.bogosity.se/2009/01/24/aptinstall-recommends/ |
| 10:51.15 | el-linedash | lmgtfy |
| 10:51.51 | _val_ | well ignore that question. It password policy being tough. I did not meet password policy requirements |
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| 11:08.21 | tgs3 | is there some commands to convert list of domain names into list of IPs? one domain per line. Overall I want to convert list of allowed hosts like foo.com:50,8000 into Ips like 1.2.3.4:50,8000 |
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| 11:10.14 | sw_ | tgs3: domains can have several IP's.. a simple script involving sed, awk, host and the likes should do it |
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| 11:17.16 | musca | tgs3: "dig +short -4 <somename>" might be helpful |
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| 11:19.25 | _val_ | well if all domains are in a file, maybe: while read -r dom; do host "$dom" |head -n1 |awk '{print $4}' ; done < <(awk -F'[,:]' '{print $1}' domains ) would work |
| 11:20.05 | _val_ | Assuming the file contains lines as foo.com:50,8000 \n bar.com:50,8000 etc.. |
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| 11:21.11 | _val_ | musca: dig +short is even better. |
| 11:22.15 | _val_ | the do.. done part would change to do dig +short "$dom" |head -n1; done |
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| 11:23.16 | \du | where i sould report a apt-get bug ? |
| 11:23.47 | nkuttler | \du: against the package |
| 11:23.59 | nkuttler | \du: why do you think there's a bug? |
| 11:24.53 | \du | because i set -y and --force-yes but using the -f option too i still have a prompt asking me for an option |
| 11:25.45 | tgs3 | musca: thanks |
| 11:25.47 | nkuttler | \du: please paste command + output on paste.debian.net |
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| 11:26.39 | \du | okey |
| 11:26.48 | Cyclohexane | Everytime I install mysql-server I keep getting "Unable to set the password for the MySQL root user." any ideas? it also fails to start |
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| 11:27.17 | el-linedash | bash -x /etc/init.d/mysqld start |
| 11:27.22 | el-linedash | see what it's up to |
| 11:27.24 | el-linedash | and check your logs |
| 11:27.34 | \du | nkuttler, http://paste.debian.net/22115/ |
| 11:27.50 | \du | oh sorry, in this case i don't use -y and --force-yes |
| 11:28.02 | \du | but it's the same, and sorry i am under ubuntu :P |
| 11:28.14 | \du | check line 94 and bellow |
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| 11:28.24 | \du | i still have the same prompt using -y and --force-yes |
| 11:28.40 | nkuttler | \du: please ask in #ubuntu |
| 11:29.45 | Cyclohexane | el-linedash: http://pastebin.com/KKfduMEi |
| 11:29.59 | \du | nkuttler, yes sorry i forget i just enter to ask over apt-get here |
| 11:30.03 | el-linedash | did you call that with bash -x ? |
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| 11:30.14 | \du | i was there and they don't not |
| 11:30.24 | \du | but i think that it's and apt-get issue |
| 11:30.31 | Cyclohexane | bash: /etc/init.d/mysqld: No such file or directory |
| 11:30.51 | el-linedash | replace mysqld with the valid init script for mysql..... |
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| 11:31.29 | nkuttler | \du: #debian doesn't support ubuntu for various technical and social reasons |
| 11:32.21 | \du | nkuttler, yes i know :) ussualy i prefer archlinux or debian but my boss not :P |
| 11:32.29 | \du | nkuttler, thanks |
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| 11:45.45 | Cyclohexane | el-linedash: do you want the entire output of the initscript? |
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| 11:46.31 | el-linedash | I'm suggesting where you can look :P |
| 11:47.02 | Cyclohexane | error: '\''Can'\''t connect to local MySQL server through socket '\''/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'\'' (2)'\'' |
| 11:47.55 | Cyclohexane | el-linedash: during the install it said this http://pastebin.com/5DPbn7eV |
| 11:48.44 | el-linedash | is this running on EC2 by any chance? |
| 11:48.45 | ksk | see if your my.cnf has "skip innodb" and remove it |
| 11:49.06 | el-linedash | http://www.onaxer.com/2010/07/29/innodb-fatal-error-cannot-allocate-the-memory-for-the-buffer-pool/ |
| 11:49.10 | el-linedash | lmgtfy |
| 11:49.37 | ksk | oh, nvm what i said |
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| 11:50.50 | Cyclohexane | el-linedash: its just openvz |
| 11:50.58 | el-linedash | read the link I pasted |
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| 11:59.04 | ZIPY_ | hey, i created a startup script in init.d: http://paste.debian.net/22138/ it works when i start it manually but not on boot, does someone know why? |
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| 12:00.47 | Cyclohexane | ZIPY_: did you add it to update-rc.d? |
| 12:01.12 | ZIPY_ | yes with sudo update-rc.d noip |
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| 12:02.57 | ZIPY_ | defaults |
| 12:03.08 | ZIPY_ | wait i try again |
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| 12:13.45 | thunder1212_ | i am unable to find the md5sum of the netinst cd |
| 12:13.56 | thunder1212_ | debian 32bit net install cd |
| 12:14.59 | jhutchins | thunder1212_: What do you want us to do about that? |
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| 12:18.06 | nkuttler | thunder1212_: where did you download it from? |
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| 12:18.36 | thunder1212_ | nkuttler, http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
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| 12:18.50 | thunder1212_ | nkuttler, the i386 one |
| 12:19.04 | nkuttler | thunder1212_: md5sums are in the same dir |
| 12:19.19 | thunder1212_ | nkuttler, 280mb file |
| 12:19.27 | nkuttler | thunder1212_: md5sums are in the same dir as the iso files |
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| 12:20.32 | moty66 | thunder: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/ |
| 12:20.41 | moty66 | thunder1212_: * |
| 12:21.06 | pederindi | hi, anyone can help me with an ssh reverse? I read a lot of tutorials. The problem is when I do: ssh -p <remote_port> localhost |
| 12:21.06 | pederindi | I have to put a password, I dont know what password |
| 12:21.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps, i am getting some funky library errors when i try to run tyr-quake can you help? This happened after i upgrade to wheezy from squeeze, |
| 12:21.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://pastebin.com/pvAawPty |
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| 12:22.07 | thunder1212_ | moty66, * means what? |
| 12:23.02 | moty66 | thunder1212_: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/ |
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| 12:24.14 | pederindi | okay, ssh reverse solved, localhost needs user!! :) |
| 12:24.29 | pederindi | (ssh user@localhost -p 3333) |
| 12:25.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | some ldd commands for the offending libraries |
| 12:25.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://pastebin.com/H3smLjt0 |
| 12:27.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | oh oh i figured it out tyr-quake cant find the libraries |
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| 12:36.14 | porton | When I click "System Settings" in the right menu of Gnome 3 Shell, nothing happens (no window opens). Help!! |
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| 12:36.31 | moty66 | worst bug ever http://www.hadanite-marasek.de/509.htm |
| 12:37.10 | abrotman | moty66: you want #debian-offtopic |
| 12:37.28 | abrotman | and dumb also |
| 12:38.00 | moty66 | abrotman: sure, my fault! it is offtopic |
| 12:38.10 | abrotman | thank you |
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| 12:40.37 | LordDeath | will this magically improve my apache2 performance? http://packages.debian.org/de/squeeze-backports/php-apc |
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| 12:41.18 | nkuttler | LordDeath: certainly not. it might improve php performance, if it doesn't break |
| 12:41.29 | nkuttler | LordDeath: i've had more luck with xcache |
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| 12:43.25 | pradeepc | i noticed cpu mhz as zero in /proc/cpuinfo on debian 6.0 for all the cores |
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| 12:47.59 | ZIPY_ | is there a bootlog that i can open via ssh? |
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| 12:49.40 | n3rV3 | ZIPY_, dmesg? |
| 12:49.40 | jhutchins | ZIPY_: Probably not. You can check dmesg | less |
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| 12:49.54 | ZIPY_ | ok |
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| 12:50.09 | win5hit | hi there, I'm having issues with targetcli / lio. can someone help to troubleshoot? '/etc/init.d/target status' gives nothing. i can run '/etc/init.d/target start' without getting an error... but if i try to start targetcli i get 'No such file or directory: '/sys/kernel/config/target'' |
| 12:50.19 | jhutchins | ZIPY_: /msg dpkg bootlog |
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| 12:56.33 | win5hit | have a look at this: http://paste.debian.net/22160/ |
| 12:57.13 | win5hit | any idea? |
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| 12:59.45 | abrotman | win5hit: does that file exist? |
| 12:59.51 | win5hit | nope |
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| 13:00.23 | win5hit | ... you ment '/sys/kernel/config/target' , right? |
| 13:00.48 | leafwiz | if [ "`ping -c 1 google.com`" ] would ping return false / 0 if google cant be reached? |
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| 13:00.59 | abrotman | leafwiz: ping isn't a very good test |
| 13:01.07 | abrotman | win5hit: do you knwo what is supposed to create that file? |
| 13:01.11 | leafwiz | abrotman: what would you recommend |
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| 13:01.27 | abrotman | it depends what you're trying to test |
| 13:01.53 | leafwiz | I just want to to ping tests to see which net i'm on. if node A is up on ping then to foo, else do bare |
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| 13:04.39 | win5hit | abrotman: afaik it's a ram based virtual filesystem provided by the kernel... AFAIK |
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| 13:04.58 | win5hit | abrotman: still trying to understand those "things" ;) |
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| 13:26.02 | oo_miguel | how can I check WHY a particular package has been installed automatically? |
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| 13:26.25 | abrotman | oo_miguel: aptitude why foo |
| 13:26.37 | oo_miguel | oh :) |
| 13:26.39 | oo_miguel | thank you |
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| 13:30.07 | Iridos | only aptitude lies sometimes :P |
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| 13:30.52 | jelly | it does not lie as much as omit 90% of the truth |
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| 13:36.07 | n3rV3 | jelly i didn't know that |
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| 13:36.53 | jelly | aptitude why foo finds the first possible reason and does not look further |
| 13:37.24 | n3rV3 | ohh ok |
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| 13:38.32 | Iridos | actually, I think I was thinking of why-not, maybe |
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| 13:39.05 | Iridos | I just remember some cases, where the answer to a similar query was some weird i386 multiarch package that didn't really make sense |
| 13:40.02 | nicnamedeth0 | jelly: According to the manpage, aptitude displays the strongest reason… |
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| 13:42.56 | jelly | nicnamedeth0: yeah, and it still may not be the actual reason that got it installed |
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| 13:45.07 | win5hit | how can i figure out what kernel modules are required for lio / targetcli to work? |
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| 13:45.37 | Aliekzhi | someone knows what means "di" in jessie amd64 kernels ? |
| 13:45.52 | Aliekzhi | (kernel-image-3.9-1-amd64-di) |
| 13:47.12 | f8l | jelly: Sure. Another thing I've found in the manpage is that -v switch makes aptitude show all justifications it finds. |
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| 13:50.32 | jelly | loves making people RTFM |
| 13:51.04 | win5hit | please help... this lio / targetcli thing is driving me crazy |
| 13:51.23 | Aliekzhi | di = debian installer ? XD |
| 13:51.45 | f8l | Aliekzhi: Probably. |
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| 13:52.20 | Aliekzhi | ok ^^ |
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| 14:00.59 | frew | babilen: btw the move from testing to wheezy has been a breeze, thanks for your help |
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| 14:03.00 | win5hit | does anyone know a channel where i can get some help with lio / targetcli |
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| 14:14.56 | win5hit | what does 'if [ ! -d /sys/kernel/config ]' |
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| 14:15.50 | win5hit | i can guess it's checking if the file / path is available... but i'd like to understand the command. ! negates something... -d does?! |
| 14:16.56 | nkuttler | win5hit: man bash, see conditional expressions |
| 14:17.08 | f8l | win5hit: Checks if the next argument is a directory, IIRC. Read `man test`. |
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| 14:18.13 | win5hit | yeah, just found out that [] are the short form from test |
| 14:19.13 | win5hit | thanks! |
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| 14:23.06 | musca | win5hit: doesn't /usr/share/doc/lio-utils/README.Debian get you any further? |
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| 14:24.14 | win5hit | I'm right now at the point where i figured out that the initscript /etc/init.d/target should mount this directories... |
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| 14:25.43 | metala | is there a tool to rename a reference in a .so elf ? |
| 14:25.50 | metala | symbol* |
| 14:26.51 | ChrisH | metala: ar ? |
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| 14:27.52 | metala | that's jsut achiving i believe |
| 14:28.01 | metala | i wanted to change imported symbol name |
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| 14:28.32 | metala | because apache2 redamend unixd_config |
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| 14:28.40 | metala | to ap_unixd_config |
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| 14:29.05 | ChrisH | metala debian apache does such things? |
| 14:29.12 | metala | and libphp5.so from libapache2-php 5.4.4-15.1 failed loading |
| 14:29.23 | metala | i'm on sid |
| 14:29.34 | metala | more like testing+unstable+sid |
| 14:29.46 | metala | fuck .. sid==unstable * |
| 14:29.50 | metala | i ment experimental |
| 14:30.56 | metala | whatevs... i'm upgrading php to 5.5, i think this will solve the issue |
| 14:31.54 | ChrisH | such a mix will allways tend to cause trouble. I hope this is no important box |
| 14:33.31 | metala | nope.. |
| 14:33.33 | metala | just a dev env |
| 14:33.54 | babilen | frew: great! :) |
| 14:34.06 | metala | production servers are always on stable |
| 14:34.25 | metala | +backports if needed |
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| 14:35.36 | metala | anyways... if i get into similar kind of trouble |
| 14:35.48 | metala | what tool should i use to manipulate ELF symbols |
| 14:35.58 | basiclaser | hey guys, my friend needs a file that she left at my house. 8gb. How easy is it to set up my debian system to allow her to FTP the file ? |
| 14:36.42 | metala | aptitude install proftpd ? |
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| 14:41.46 | jelly | basiclaser: probably easier to upload it to a file-sharing service |
| 14:42.18 | musca | win5hit: targetcli screencast (part1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkBGTBadOO8 |
| 14:42.28 | ChrisH | basiclaser: Burn onto 2 DVD and send by post. Depending on the upload/download speed this might be faster. |
| 14:42.28 | jelly | setting up a server on a residential line can be problematic |
| 14:42.39 | basiclaser | jelly: can you think of any free ones which allow 8gb ? :P |
| 14:42.45 | jelly | basiclaser: what's your upload bandwidth? |
| 14:43.40 | crane_work | hi, i've got this function to search for all cfg files in my /etc/packet directory but how can i check if there has been none found? http://pastebin.com/9FELYw3T |
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| 14:45.30 | jordanm | crane_work: if [[ ! ${CFGs[@]} ]]; then echo "none found"; fi |
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| 14:46.12 | crane_work | jordanm, i thought about if [ -z "CFGs" ] but that was not working |
| 14:46.15 | crane_work | i will try this |
| 14:46.47 | jordanm | crane_work: that tests if the literal string "CGFs" is empty |
| 14:47.20 | jordanm | crane_work: [[ -z "${CFGs[@]} ]] |
| 14:47.24 | jelly | basiclaser: not really, but you can always split the file into smaller pieces |
| 14:47.47 | jordanm | crane_work: you can also iterate over the array with for i in "${CFGs[@]}"; do ... you don't need the c-style for loop for that |
| 14:48.20 | jordanm | unless you are also using "i" for something not displayed |
| 14:48.47 | crane_work | jordanm, nope, jsut for counting |
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| 14:49.43 | jordanm | crane_work: last note, you can use CFGs+=("$file") to append to the array |
| 14:49.58 | f8l | basiclaser: How about rsync or scp? |
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| 14:51.49 | basiclaser | im in a business environment, in an organisation |
| 14:52.04 | basiclaser | so 'big' i guess |
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| 14:52.24 | ChrisH | basiclaser: rsync over ssh |
| 14:52.34 | basiclaser | i was thinking just zip 2gb portions yep |
| 14:52.38 | volume_8 | Hey. I set up a Debian image to use with kvm, but hwwhen Debian boots it hangs at the "Starting up OpensSSH" init scriptript. Is this because KVM doesnt' cofngiure networking by default? |
| 14:52.48 | volume_8 | I can't even control-c the "Starting up OpenSSH" |
| 14:52.54 | volume_8 | it's hanging there for the past 5 minutes |
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| 14:53.06 | Etherape | Hi guys, i'm trying to make our business laptops PCI-compliant, according to one of the conditions the username of a desktop should not be visible when a desktop is locked. This is not possible with the gnome-screensaver so im playing around with xscreensaver an .Xresources but i can't find an option to disable the username. |
| 14:53.19 | Etherape | can someone give me a hint? Thnx! |
| 14:53.38 | f8l | basiclaser: Or just like jelly suggests: split «file»; email «file»x* on your side and fetch attachments; cat «file»x* > «file» on the other. |
| 14:53.40 | ChrisH | volume_8: It should continue sometime. You cannot stop start scritps and yes not having a network interface properly configured will cause any kind of trouble. |
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| 14:53.52 | metala | i use i3lock to lock the desktop |
| 14:53.52 | jelly | f8l: "email" will be a bitch with 8GB |
| 14:54.08 | volume_8 | ChrisH: right. But I thought that KVM would autoconfigure your networking by default. |
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| 14:54.18 | volume_8 | isn't that the case? |
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| 14:54.24 | ChrisH | volume_8: dunno about kvm |
| 14:54.32 | metala | Etherape: just check the i3lock if it fits you |
| 14:54.33 | f8l | jelly: That's what split is for. You can receive pieces and remove them from the server to make room for next ones. |
| 14:54.35 | volume_8 | ChrisH: ok thanks |
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| 14:54.57 | Aliekzhi | modprobe doesn't seem to add permanantly a module |
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| 14:55.10 | Aliekzhi | how to enable permanantly after reboot a module |
| 14:55.16 | rgr | this is very lame and I should have been able to find the answer from google .... what init file does gnome use on wheezy? I cant set my PATH env correctly for apps launched from the gnome panel or from an xmonad launcher. Ive had .profile, .bash_profile, .gnomerc all sourcing from by .bash_env and its still not correctly set. |
| 14:55.27 | ChrisH | for i in xa? do; uuencode xa$i xa$i | mailx -s "xa$i" user@domain.com ; done :) |
| 14:55.33 | bacalhau | Is there a way to get smartctl to list the LBAs of all errors from the selftest? Or is my only option running badblocks to get a complete list? |
| 14:55.42 | Etherape | metala: looks very promising, i will look into this, thnx! |
| 14:56.43 | jelly | f8l: common email size limit is 20-50MB gross, 14-35MB attachment. that makes for 228 slices. |
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| 14:57.15 | jelly | f8l: makes this option highly impractical |
| 14:57.39 | ChrisH | jelly: at least for someone without scripting knowledge |
| 14:58.18 | f8l | jelly: Right. Maybe its that my e-mail provider allows 100M attachments… |
| 14:58.44 | jelly | ChrisH: someone with scripting knowledge would also likely be able to make a reverse ssh tunnel and copy the file "directly" |
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| 14:59.29 | jelly | f8l: so, "only" 80 slices then |
| 14:59.30 | ChrisH | jelly: good point |
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| 15:00.21 | f8l | jelly: I already admitted you're right. |
| 15:00.25 | volume_8 | ChrisH: the "Starting up OpenSSH" just keeps going |
| 15:00.47 | volume_8 | ChrisH: maybe it froze completely? i don't know how to verify this. |
| 15:01.00 | volume_8 | i don't even know if I can ctrl+alt+f1 at this point of boot. |
| 15:01.05 | volume_8 | (or how to do it inside kvm) |
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| 15:01.28 | Aliekzhi | modprobe doesn't add module permanantly ? |
| 15:01.34 | Aliekzhi | have to do it at every start ! |
| 15:01.38 | f8l | Aliekzhi: cat /etc/modules |
| 15:02.10 | Aliekzhi | f8l, modules must be added to that file to be there permanantly ? |
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| 15:02.40 | f8l | Aliekzhi: Reading doesn't hurt. Believe me. |
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| 15:02.57 | Bronze | winces as the text stabs him in the cheek... |
| 15:03.28 | Aliekzhi | f8l, on my gentoo right now, path doesn't exist ^^ I can't start my debian right now. "eading my question and answering doesn't hurt too ^^ |
| 15:03.46 | Aliekzhi | yes or no would be enough |
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| 15:04.52 | f8l | Aliekzhi: If by modules you meant module names, yes. |
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| 15:05.43 | m8 | Do you have problems with debian testing and vmware tools? |
| 15:05.43 | Aliekzhi | f8l, the exact problem is having to start manually the module "tun" with modprobe everytime...the solution would be to add "tun" to /etc/modules ? |
| 15:05.45 | f8l | Aliekzhi: How are you going to repair anything if you don't have the access to the computer your are trying to repair? |
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| 15:06.24 | Aliekzhi | f8l, I don't have access right now but I will in a few minutes ^^ |
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| 15:06.38 | f8l | Aliekzhi: Executing `echo tun >> /etc/modules` should do. Be careful. Make sure its >>, not >. |
| 15:06.58 | Aliekzhi | f8l, > would erase, right ? |
| 15:07.08 | f8l | Aliekzhi: Of course I assume you do have tun module compiled for your kernel. |
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| 15:07.16 | ChrisH | volume_8: could be... reset the system and boot again or boot intop single user mode |
| 15:07.43 | f8l | Aliekzhi: Yes, it would truncate the file before writing. |
| 15:07.52 | Aliekzhi | f8l, yes it's in the default deb package, didn't have to make custom kernel to add this module |
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| 15:08.19 | f8l | Aliekzhi: You don't have to make custom kernels to add modules. ;-) |
| 15:08.54 | Aliekzhi | just really estonished : on gentoo a modprobe is permanant (and you don't need it most of the time because it fonds automatically what module to load or not) |
| 15:09.09 | Aliekzhi | is it related to kernel version or only debian and gentoo working differently about that ? |
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| 15:09.58 | f8l | Aliekzhi: AFAIK, Linux can load modules on-demand. |
| 15:10.03 | Aliekzhi | I mean : would 3.9 behave differently about that ? |
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| 15:10.05 | troulouliou_dev | hi is there a good channel dedicated to gpl/bsd .. licencing |
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| 15:10.25 | Aliekzhi | f8l, well modprobe on my gentoo always added permanantly the mdules, but maybe due to more recent kernel ? |
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| 15:11.56 | f8l | Aliekzhi: I don't think so. I'd vote for different modprobe versions, but I don't know gentoo, so don't listen to me. ;-) |
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| 15:13.32 | f8l | Aliekzhi: Gotta go. Good luck! |
| 15:14.41 | Aliekzhi | f8l, thx ^^ |
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| 15:19.22 | SKiTZO | totem is unable to play any video file. It complains that the format is not supported. Is this a known problem on wheezy 64bit |
| 15:19.37 | abrotman | that seems unlikely |
| 15:19.41 | SKiTZO | It appears to be a problem with gstreamer not finding its plugins for some reason |
| 15:19.43 | abrotman | did you install any plugins for gstreamer? |
| 15:19.51 | SKiTZO | yes all of them are there |
| 15:19.56 | abrotman | guesses this is a 32bit 64bit problem |
| 15:20.20 | SKiTZO | hm. arnt plugins compiled to 64bit? |
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| 15:20.36 | crane_work | jordanm, thx, everything works now :) |
| 15:20.49 | abrotman | SKiTZO: i have no idea which plugins you installed |
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| 15:21.03 | SKiTZO | well there are just that many in the debian repositories |
| 15:21.19 | SKiTZO | basically I did aptitude search gstreamer | grep -i plugin |
| 15:21.22 | SKiTZO | to find them |
| 15:21.27 | SKiTZO | and install them |
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| 15:21.49 | abrotman | maybe try it in debug mode? |
| 15:21.57 | SKiTZO | totem? |
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| 15:22.25 | SKiTZO | ah totem --debug |
| 15:22.26 | SKiTZO | will do |
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| 15:27.07 | jelly | ,kernels |
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| 15:27.07 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.10-rc7-686-pae (3.10~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 3.10-1-686-pae (3.10.3-1); jessie: 3.9-1-686-pae (3.9.8-1); wheezy-backports: 3.9-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.9.6-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.46-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze3) |
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| 15:41.36 | porton | Why "Debian GNU/Linux jessie/sid" in /etc/issue.net despite of "sid != jessie" |
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| 15:42.46 | Bronze | porton: what? please rephrase |
| 15:42.54 | porton | ... Oh, it seems I've understood: It is a common welcome message for both jessie and sid. Right? |
| 15:43.27 | porton | Bronze: I run (installed today) jessie Debian, but have something about "sid" in /etc/issue.net |
| 15:43.33 | Bronze | good question. what does man 5 issue say? |
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| 15:45.10 | Bronze | porton: my issue.net says: Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 |
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| 15:45.47 | porton | Bronze: It's wheezy. I have given up wheezy today and now run jessie |
| 15:46.23 | Bronze | what's wheezy? Debian 7? |
| 15:46.43 | jelly | porton: that's normal. |
| 15:46.44 | porton | http://www.debian.org/releases/ "Debian 7.0 ("wheezy") — current stable release" |
| 15:47.09 | Bronze | OK. I just grabbed the latest stable live image |
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| 15:47.42 | jelly | porton: base-files always say [testing codename]/sid between releases |
| 15:48.21 | porton | Is "sid" the same as "unstable" (not updating its name on new releases)? |
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| 15:48.26 | jelly | yes |
| 15:48.34 | jelly | !tell porton about sid |
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| 15:48.39 | francesc2 | Hello. |
| 15:48.42 | jl- | for rm -rf*v* is there a way to print only what dir was deleted, not all the files |
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| 15:49.12 | porton | jelly: It's confusing to have two names for one the same thing: "unstable" and "sid" |
| 15:49.35 | jl- | only if you're dumb |
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| 15:50.27 | porton | jl-: I was dumb enough that "sid" is just a release name (like "squeeze" or "wheezy") which passes away on new releases |
| 15:50.50 | jelly | porton: you must be new to debian. Naming confusion is what we do best. |
| 15:50.51 | jl- | such names stick better |
| 15:50.55 | jl- | like "google" or "yahoo" |
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| 15:51.07 | jl- | infantile language, but it sticks |
| 15:51.36 | porton | jelly: I'm not new to Debian, but had long time confusion about "sid". I propose to change unstable releases naming |
| 15:51.47 | jl- | I have found 'ddwrt' to be the worst name to remember/say |
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| 15:53.47 | ctmjr | porton: yea that will happen |
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| 15:55.34 | Bronze | sid is named for the a character from Toy Story. The next door neighbor-male child who is, it is implied, mentally unstable. (perhaps). |
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| 15:55.49 | porton | After updating to GTK+ 3.8.2-3 Gnome 3.7.4-1 I have thinner scrollbars without arrows. Can I switch to old style scrollbars with arrows? |
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| 15:57.08 | porton | ... The bad thing with these new style scrollbars is that they don't allow to scroll one page by clicking the bar outside of the runner |
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| 16:00.35 | jhutchins | porton: Sid is the kid who breaks all his toys. |
| 16:00.46 | jhutchins | porton: He's a constant. |
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| 16:01.26 | jhutchins | porton: The dual name thing is just one of the characteristics of Debian. |
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| 16:12.29 | francesc2 | Hi, do you know where I can find a list of software that I am suggested to install for the LXDE environment? |
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| 16:13.44 | [-___-] | hi |
| 16:13.56 | [-___-] | can sumone help put eclipse inthe right place |
| 16:14.11 | [-___-] | i install eclipse with from .deb |
| 16:14.43 | [-___-] | but i got the EE version that i need which is not available in .deb |
| 16:14.50 | [-___-] | its just a folder |
| 16:15.00 | [-___-] | can someone help me put this in a proper place |
| 16:15.15 | [-___-] | so to overwrite the .deb version |
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| 16:16.24 | jhutchins | [-___-]: That's really a question for eclipse support, but just figure out where the .deb files are and match it. |
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| 16:16.34 | disposable | i'm trying to install wheezy on ssd with gpt partition table. i created bios_grub partition in the installer and root filesystem (xfs) on /dev/sda. installer claims it installed grub with no errors, but i can see the following messages in the console - volume group "sda" not found; skipping volume group sda; no DOS partition table on /dev/sda nothing to do. If I just believe the installer, system is unbootable. What should i do? |
| 16:16.41 | jhutchins | [-___-]: dpkg -L package to see where the files are. |
| 16:17.17 | jhutchins | disposable: What guide are you following? |
| 16:17.26 | [-___-] | jhutchins: ok let me try |
| 16:17.28 | troulouliou_dev | disposable, from a chroot ? |
| 16:17.29 | disposable | jhutchins: none |
| 16:17.33 | [-___-] | dont go away |
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| 16:18.00 | disposable | troulouliou_dev: no, from within wheezy installer |
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| 16:18.29 | musca | !tell francesc2 about install lxde |
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| 16:19.11 | jhutchins | disposable: I'm not sure about the extent of documentation for that, check the install guide and the errata. |
| 16:19.30 | jhutchins | musca: Ah, thank you. |
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| 16:20.47 | disposable | jhutchins: there is nothing about this in the install guide |
| 16:20.48 | brah | I'm having a problem with grub2, it boots straight into minimal |
| 16:21.28 | brah | and I have to type `configfile (hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg` then it loads fine |
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| 16:22.57 | rhizome | hi, i'm trying to disable the pc-beep and found instructions to add some lines to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf. i see alsa-blacklist.conf, fbdev-blacklist.conf...should i create blacklist.conf and know that it'll be picked up? seems like a default-y name, but i just want to check. |
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| 16:27.13 | movl | rhizome, the name isn't important, the module is pcspkr |
| 16:28.01 | rhizome | what, everything .conf in modprobe.d will be picked up? |
| 16:28.13 | movl | afaik, yes |
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| 16:28.18 | rhizome | thanks! |
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| 16:28.50 | WormFood | does the bind daemon in wheezy have the RRL (Response Rate Limit) patch applied? I'm not finding anything conclusive with google. |
| 16:29.26 | [-___-] | jhutchins: http://pastebin.com/P3Z7GBmS |
| 16:29.52 | markizano | Is upgrade as simple as modify /etc/apt/sources.list to wheezy and then apt-get update, apt-get upgrade ? |
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| 16:30.14 | markizano | given: no additional/custom channels have been added besides backports in /etc/apt/sources* |
| 16:30.17 | zykotick9 | !tell markizano about squeeze->wheezy |
| 16:30.21 | markizano | derp |
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| 16:30.43 | Cyclohexane | when do you use sasl? can someone give me a noob friendly definition of it |
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| 16:34.39 | markizano | arigatou, zykotick9 |
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| 16:38.02 | Diranged | Quick apt question… how can I control how long apt-get/aptitude will use my locally cached Release and Packages files (for each repo) before getting updated ones on the next package install? |
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| 16:39.44 | jordanm | Diranged: unlike yum, you have to explicitly tell apt to update those files |
| 16:40.03 | Diranged | Hrmm thats too bad. |
| 16:40.09 | jordanm | apt-cron, update-notify, unattended-upgrades, etc can do it for though |
| 16:40.24 | Diranged | We currently have a cron entry that just does an aptitude update every night.. but thats problematic sometimes and we get spurious error messages here and there.. |
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| 16:45.15 | [-___-] | jhutchins: |
| 16:45.22 | [-___-] | scrathces head |
| 16:45.42 | jordanm | Diranged: apt-get() { (( $(stat -c "%Y" /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin) < $(date -d '1 day ago' "+%s") )) && command apt-get update; command apt-get "$@"; }; |
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| 16:46.37 | jordanm | Diranged: that wrapper will make apt-get function a bit more like yum |
| 16:46.53 | jordanm | (mostly untested) |
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| 16:48.05 | Diranged | :) thanks.. im also taking a peek at cron-apt.. |
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| 16:49.12 | mamed | hey |
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| 16:50.36 | [-___-] | omg i told jhutchins not to go away |
| 16:50.40 | [-___-] | and he went away |
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| 16:50.59 | mjt | what's actually needed to play midi files on linux? Almost every document found by google mentions timidity, but this is software unmaintained for years. There's also alsa midi interface (aplaymidi from alsa-utils), but does it actually work? |
| 16:51.43 | FilipeMaia | I'm trying to add a disk that previously failed to my mdadm array but it's getting immediately kicked out without me seeing any error. Is there a way to prevent this? |
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| 16:51.50 | zinx | mjt: timitidy++? |
| 16:51.57 | mamed | how can i install opengl dev libs ??? |
| 16:52.00 | mjt | that's the one zinx |
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| 16:52.25 | zinx | mjt: it's pretty much required if your sound card doesn't have a supported midi synth (almost no new ones have such a thing) |
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| 16:53.16 | orzo | required for what though, i hardly ever use synth |
| 16:53.20 | rhizome | hi, me again. is restarting the one true way of restarting modprobe? |
| 16:53.29 | mjt | zinx: how to check? aplaymidi -l shows a midi port "Midi Through", but using aplaymidi with it produces lots of silence |
| 16:53.42 | jordanm | mamed: libgl1-mesa-dev |
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| 16:53.49 | mamed | only?? |
| 16:53.50 | zinx | mjt: then you don't have timidity set up correctly :/ |
| 16:53.57 | mjt | sure i don't |
| 16:54.12 | zinx | mjt: your sound card doesn't support midi unless you specificly bought it to, or it's an ISA card :P |
| 16:54.15 | mamed | jordanm, only this package? |
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| 16:54.19 | jordanm | rhizome: if you mean to unload and load all modules, yes |
| 16:54.22 | jordanm | mamed: probably? |
| 16:54.24 | rhizome | jordanm: thanks |
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| 16:54.45 | mamed | yep |
| 16:54.49 | mjt | zinx: in that case it might be a good idea to mention this SOMEWHERE - maybe in aplaymidi manpage.. ;) |
| 16:54.52 | mamed | depencies are installed also |
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| 16:56.00 | mjt | (and timidity package does not work - i was about to file 3 bugreports about it but browsing bugs already open suggest that new bugs wont be fixed) |
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| 16:57.29 | mjt | (and when actually works, it produces horrible sound here, like lots of scratches on a vinyl disk) |
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| 16:58.05 | mjt | so timidity is the only way to play midi files? |
| 16:58.17 | mjt | (without the special hw that is) |
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| 16:59.54 | mjt | it'd be fun because every little device out here (a phone, an "mp3 player", an in-dash (car) audio system etc) can play midi files just fine... ;) |
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| 17:01.45 | thunder1212_ | i have a debian 6 dvd should i use it for install ? |
| 17:02.12 | mjt | debian 6 is squeeze aka "oldstable" |
| 17:02.34 | mjt | whenever you "should" do something is question to you only :) |
| 17:04.03 | trewas | mjt: does something current generation actually support playing midi-files? I thought they disappeared when mp3 etc became popular |
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| 17:05.08 | mjt | i've a samsung smartphone (their "top" model) and old cheap samsung phone, both can use .midi files for ring sound |
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| 17:05.34 | mjt | my daughter has 2 different iriver "mp3 players", both can play midi files |
| 17:05.45 | mjt | and my car can play midi files (ford focus iii) |
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| 17:06.43 | mjt | and "mp3 generation" appeared quite _some_ time ago :) |
| 17:07.33 | jmcnaught | mjt: did you try using one of the timidity GUIs? |
| 17:07.49 | trewas | oh, that is quite weird, given that the real computer world gave up about midi in the nineties... I have galaxy s3 but I don't have any midi-files to check if it could actually play them |
| 17:08.22 | mjt | trewas: my phone is galaxy note II which is very similar to S3, and it plays midi files just fine :) |
| 17:09.21 | mjt | i've one of ring melodies set to "lemon tree.midi" |
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| 17:10.09 | flux242 | does your vacuum cleaner play midi files too? |
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| 17:11.58 | mjt | that'd be nice ;) |
| 17:12.22 | mjt | but ok. i just had an idea. i removed pulseaudio from my system, and now timidity works |
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| 17:14.20 | mjt | #563252 |
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| 17:15.35 | mjt | "I'm happy to accept patches improving compatibility with pulseaudio. However personally I consider pulseaudio a horrible hack, and do not intend to spend much time on it." |
| 17:15.49 | mjt | so almost every desktop install of debian uses this horrible hack |
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| 17:20.23 | mjt | heh lovely. so now timidity works, but timidity is the ONLY sound application that works. no other app can produce sound anymore |
| 17:20.34 | mjt | yay :) |
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| 17:22.48 | SmashingX | Hi guys, I'm connected to a VPN but I have to stop firestarter otherwise I can't connect to the internet. Do you know what do I have to do in order for firestarter allow my VPN connection? |
| 17:23.39 | mjt | «"Firestarter" is a song by the English band The Prodigy, released on 19 March 1996» :) |
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| 17:52.32 | csc` | Hi, I derped and accidentally did a full apt-get upgrade to sid from a stable release (I think its 6.0), I keep getting strange errors I don't understand how to fix |
| 17:54.05 | borsky | sounds like a fresh reinstall is what you nrrf |
| 17:54.22 | borsky | need*; dont take my advice though im a newbie |
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| 17:57.24 | SmashingX | is it possible to connect to a machine that's connected to a VPN via SSH? |
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| 17:59.02 | csc` | borsky, if the machine is still operational and only the package manager is broken, why is that a legitimate cause to reinstall? |
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| 18:00.49 | francesc2 | Hello, I think I have already asked this question. But I need again more help. Could you explain me the command "eject"? I need to spin down my external USB HDD. |
| 18:02.25 | csc` | Here is a more detailed error http://pastebin.com/715kFGmp |
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| 18:04.30 | francesc2 | I am looking for my external USB HDD in the "/dev" directory, but I can't recognize it. Could you help me? |
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| 18:06.42 | jelly-home | francesc2: does "blkid", run as root, list anything looking like (a partition on your) external disk? |
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| 18:07.15 | francesc2 | jelly-home: Excuse me, I don't know what blkid is. |
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| 18:07.30 | jelly-home | it's a command |
| 18:07.52 | francesc2 | What does it do? |
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| 18:08.26 | jelly-home | DESCRIPTION |
| 18:08.27 | jelly-home | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:09.15 | jelly-home | francesc2: that's from the manual. It shows filesystems and other structures on disks in the machine |
| 18:09.45 | jelly-home | francesc2: if you run "man blkid" you'll see that text and more |
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| 18:09.57 | xintron | To upgrade from squeezy to wheezy it's just a matter of a dist-upgrade or anything else (clean squeezy install)? |
| 18:10.06 | francesc2 | jelly-home: It works. Thank you. |
| 18:10.21 | jelly-home | xintron: "squeeze". You want to read the wheezy release notes. |
| 18:10.30 | jelly-home | !wheezy release notes |
| 18:10.30 | dpkg | Release notes for Debian 7 "Wheezy" are at http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/releasenotes . See also <squeeze->wheezy>, <install guide>. |
| 18:10.51 | jelly-home | xintron: also read /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
| 18:11.04 | francesc2 | jelly-home: Is there a way to see which on which device is mounted a certain directory in the file system? |
| 18:11.19 | jelly-home | francesc2: yes, "df" or "mount" commands |
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| 18:12.15 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I tried the command "eject /dev/sdb1" to spin down my external HDD, but it seems not working. |
| 18:13.14 | Eduard_Munteanu | Why don't projects like FAI or kickstart simply clone an installed system and perhaps re-run package install hooks (e.g. regenerate SSH keys)? |
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| 18:13.34 | jelly-home | francesc2: yeah, you'll want to eject the whole device, not just the first (and only) partition. So, that'd be "eject sdb" or "eject /dev/sdb" |
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| 18:14.10 | francesc2 | jelly-home: isn't this what I've done? It seems not working. The hdd is still spinning. |
| 18:14.22 | jelly-home | francesc2: you said "eject /dev/sdb1" |
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| 18:14.56 | jelly-home | ... different from "eject /dev/sdb" by a single character |
| 18:14.59 | francesc2 | jelly-home: are there other device connected to the device sdb? |
| 18:15.15 | francesc2 | jelly-home: Sorry, I didn't notice it. :D |
| 18:15.32 | Eduard_Munteanu | Or, IOW, is there such a clone installer for Debian? The idea is to deploy preconfigured servers. |
| 18:15.32 | jelly-home | francesc2: be very careful with reading and executing commands. |
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| 18:17.06 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I have run "ls sdb*" in the "/dev" directory. Indeed I have "sdb" and "sdb1". What kind of files are they? |
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| 18:17.37 | jelly-home | francesc2: ls -l /dev/sdb* will tell you those are block device nodes. |
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| 18:20.41 | francesc2 | jelly-home: Actually, it doesn't work. I have executed "eject /dev/sdb", and the hdd is still spinning. I have unmounted the hdd, though. |
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| 18:21.49 | francesc2 | I looked in the internet. It seems I should use the "hdparm" command. |
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| 18:22.10 | jelly-home | francesc2: yeah. That unfrtunately can happen on Debian 6 and newer, different subsystems fight and after disconnecting the device something immediately detects and connects it back |
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| 18:22.40 | francesc2 | jelly-home: since the cable is still connected? |
| 18:22.42 | jelly-home | francesc2: run blkid again, does it still show it as sdb? |
| 18:22.48 | jelly-home | or sdb1 |
| 18:23.05 | jelly-home | or did it switch to say sdc and sdc1 |
| 18:23.14 | francesc2 | jelly-home: Yes. It is still there. |
| 18:23.33 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I didn't know the blkid command. Where did you find it? :D |
| 18:23.37 | csc` | well since I tried fixing it myself due to nobody else answering, now I have a terminal full of "Creating /etc/mail/databases..." spam |
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| 18:24.15 | jelly-home | francesc2: it it's unmounted now, you can usually shut it down with "echo 1 > /sys/block/sdb/device/delete" |
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| 18:24.48 | francesc2 | jelly-home: what does this command do? |
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| 18:25.12 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I know it's unmounted. |
| 18:25.17 | jelly-home | francesc2: it tells the device to shut down and cleans up any kernel references after it |
| 18:25.36 | csc` | I'd greatly appreciate some help, heh |
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| 18:25.45 | jelly-home | (it's unwise to do that if it's not unmounted) |
| 18:25.46 | francesc2 | jelly-home: if I disconnect the cable, and I connect it again, will the HDD work again? |
| 18:26.07 | csc` | cant just leave this upgrade process halfway through in a terminal spamming messages over and over again |
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| 18:26.12 | jelly-home | francesc2: assuming that echo works and spins it down, yes |
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| 18:26.39 | francesc2 | I am little afraid, but let me try. |
| 18:27.32 | OldParr | can i recover a dual system from windows installation with mini.iso ? |
| 18:27.39 | francesc2 | jelly-home: still not working. |
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| 18:28.16 | jelly-home | francesc2: how did it fail? |
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| 18:28.48 | francesc2 | jelly-home: the external disk desappeard from the GUI interface, but the disk is still spinning. |
| 18:29.06 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I cannot mount it again from the file manager. |
| 18:29.27 | jelly-home | francesc2: oh, that's unfortunate. What Debian release are you using? |
| 18:29.49 | francesc2 | jelly-home: Should I try echo 0 > /sys/block/sdb/device/delete ? |
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| 18:29.56 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I am useing LXDE |
| 18:30.15 | jelly-home | francesc2: how did you install the thing? |
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| 18:30.26 | francesc2 | Via CD. |
| 18:30.29 | jelly-home | which CD? |
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| 18:30.35 | francesc2 | And via internet for updates. |
| 18:30.39 | francesc2 | I don't remember. |
| 18:30.57 | jelly-home | francesc2: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file. |
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| 18:31.06 | francesc2 | How do I, at least, mount again the disk? |
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| 18:31.17 | jelly-home | unplug and plug it back |
| 18:31.18 | OldParr | can i recover a 32 bit system from an 64 bit installer? |
| 18:31.21 | francesc2 | jelly-home: e second. |
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| 18:31.31 | francesc2 | jelly-home: this was what I wanted to avoid. |
| 18:31.35 | francesc2 | :D |
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| 18:32.14 | jhutchins | I would deal with this from the command line, not the GUI. |
| 18:32.26 | francesc2 | It's version 6.0.5 Squeeze |
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| 18:33.45 | francesc2 | jelly-home: it worked. |
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| 18:34.02 | DNS | one of the last updates in sid broke the gnome-shell |
| 18:34.07 | francesc2 | Do you think I should use the "hdparm" command, as I read? |
| 18:34.13 | DNS | it can not be started because of some js |
| 18:34.34 | jelly-home | francesc2: it is unlikely hdparm will work on an usb-connected device |
| 18:34.36 | jhutchins | DNS: That's sid. |
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| 18:34.59 | DNS | jhutchins: hehe but i thought experimental would be the broken stuff |
| 18:35.00 | DNS | :p |
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| 18:35.10 | jhutchins | DNS: They'll probably fix it in a few days but we do have the wekend. |
| 18:35.15 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I have read it on a forum. |
| 18:35.25 | DNS | sure so far i can use my shell its all fine |
| 18:35.25 | jhutchins | DNS: Nope, sid is the next-door neighbor kid who breaks all the toys. |
| 18:35.27 | DNS | :D |
| 18:35.30 | DNS | hehehe |
| 18:35.43 | jelly-home | francesc2: don't trust everything you read on the internets, and that includes advice from this very channel! |
| 18:35.43 | desaj | hi i am trying to write a debian iso to a usb on a mac. i've tried using the instructions here -> http://www.dq-int.co.uk/blog/burning-linux-iso-to-usb-using-a-mac/ but my mac doesn't detect. i am trying to install it on this macbook |
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| 18:36.14 | francesc2 | jelly-home: do you think I could break something with hdparm? |
| 18:36.41 | Eduard_Munteanu | francesc2: hdparm in particular can break stuff |
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| 18:37.02 | jhutchins | francesc2: Yes. |
| 18:37.23 | francesc2 | But I am trying to spind down an external hdd. |
| 18:37.28 | francesc2 | "spin". |
| 18:37.34 | jhutchins | francesc2: Did you try umount? eject is only valid for optical discs (CDs) and tape drives. |
| 18:37.58 | francesc2 | jhutchins: yes. I have tried to unmount it. But the disk is still spinning. |
| 18:38.15 | jelly-home | francesc2: hdparm can be used to do nasty things to disks and data on them. |
| 18:38.20 | francesc2 | I have read that in the internet the is a "script" that someone wrote, involving hdparm. |
| 18:38.30 | jelly-home | jhutchins: eject typically works on usb-storage. |
| 18:38.39 | jhutchins | francesc2: hdparm can alter the settings for that but you must be very careful that the commands you use are compatible with your particular hardware. |
| 18:39.10 | jhutchins | jelly-home: I know some of the GUI utilities use the term "eject", but it depends on how the system sees the device. |
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| 18:39.15 | francesc2 | jhutchins: If I use hdparm, and I disconnect the device, will all the setting erase? |
| 18:39.30 | jelly-home | jhutchins: I'm talking about the /usr/bin/eject tool |
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| 18:39.35 | jhutchins | francesc2: Good question. |
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| 18:39.55 | francesc2 | "I know that I do not know"(Socrates) |
| 18:40.43 | DNS | installing xfce4 again, was a time a go as i was usin it last time |
| 18:41.13 | jhutchins | jelly-home: They must've updated it, which is nice. |
| 18:41.13 | GullemAspara | 4.8 or 4.10? |
| 18:41.26 | jhutchins | jelly-home: It works on my droid. |
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| 18:41.31 | francesc2 | However, I am posting the link of the forum I am referring to. No spam intended. Just to have an idea. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/safely-remove-usb-external-hard-drive-703326/ |
| 18:41.39 | DNS | GullemAspara: in sid is 4.10 |
| 18:41.40 | jelly-home | jhutchins: it's been that way for years, lenny at least, maybe earlier |
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| 18:41.42 | DNS | :) |
| 18:42.01 | DNS | 4.10.1 to be exact |
| 18:42.10 | jelly-home | jhutchins: but gnome vfs things mess with it and reconnect the device right away |
| 18:42.18 | jhutchins | jelly-home: I've been on-board since etch, but was in a different (RH) world before that. |
| 18:42.20 | desaj | hi i am trying to write a debian iso to a usb on a mac. i've tried using the instructions here -> http://www.dq-int.co.uk/blog/burning-linux-iso-to-usb-using-a-mac/ but my mac doesn't detect. i am trying to install it on this macbook |
| 18:42.35 | jhutchins | jelly-home: So there are things that changed while I wasn't looking. |
| 18:42.45 | daveeejr | i am using wheezy and gnome3 and i am having trouble making sure that specific apps open specific file extensions. is there a text file i can set this in? |
| 18:42.47 | jhutchins | jelly-home: like su not requiring - any more. |
| 18:42.53 | jelly-home | requiring? |
| 18:42.53 | nkuttler | desaj: um, macs have dd/cat, don't they? |
| 18:42.54 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I have LXDE installed. Could it be that my distro is to "light" to support "complicated" actions? |
| 18:43.09 | jelly-home | francesc2: no, these are low-level tools |
| 18:43.16 | DNS | francesc2: should be just about the libs |
| 18:43.20 | DNS | brb |
| 18:43.30 | nkuttler | desaj: doesn't detect what? |
| 18:43.32 | francesc2 | jelly-home: did you see the link that I posted? |
| 18:43.48 | desaj | nkuttler: they do. i did try dd but my mac didn't seem to detect my usb as being bootable. i have tried cat but it said it ran out of run on the disc. |
| 18:44.28 | nkuttler | desaj: which command did you use exactly? paste.debian.net, include output |
| 18:44.32 | mtn | daveeejr: not sure just what you mean, but you can use file manager, right click on file and set what is the default app to open that type of file. |
| 18:44.44 | francesc2 | jelly-home: However, I think I can try. I don't think an external device has some kind of "memory" that remember all the previous settings, when you disconnect the power. What do you think? |
| 18:45.10 | nkuttler | desaj: i mean, was the installer writte to the stick? |
| 18:45.29 | jelly-home | francesc2: that advice is from 2009. Your system's kernel is similarly old, so who knows. |
| 18:45.30 | desaj | nkuttler: this is what i did ... sudo dd if=debian-live-7.0.0-amd64-kde-desktop.iso of=/dev/rdisk1 bs=4096; sync |
| 18:45.44 | daveeejr | mtn: i did that, but for some reason if i set the default app for a .gcode file it becomes the same default for a .scad file. all extensions that are "strange" are being considered the same |
| 18:45.51 | GullemAspara | Btw, what's going on with testing freeze policy? I heard they plan on cutting freeze term to ~2 months (IIRC, Wheezy's freeze term was nearly a year). |
| 18:45.59 | nkuttler | desaj: that looks right, assuming the device is correct. no idea then why a mac wouldn't boot that |
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| 18:46.25 | francesc2 | jelly-home: Actually, I was talking about the device itself, not about the kernel. Or, does this command involve the kernel, rather than the device itself? |
| 18:46.39 | desaj | nkuttler: i believe the installer was written to the disc. i've used the instructions here for ubuntu and it worked ... http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx ... but i don't want to use ubuntu on this computer |
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| 18:47.06 | jelly-home | francesc2: look at dmesg output after connecting the device. Then umount (if mounted) and "echo 1 >> /sys/block/sdb/device/delete" again, and pastebin the changes (new lines) from dmesg |
| 18:47.06 | mtn | daveeejr: I don't think it is set by extension, but by file type. not sure if it can be done by extension or not |
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| 18:47.40 | francesc2 | jelly-home: what is the dmesg? A command? |
| 18:47.45 | jelly-home | francesc2: yes. |
| 18:48.01 | nkuttler | desaj: sorry, can't help you with this. know nothing about macs |
| 18:48.03 | daveeejr | mtn: ahhh, that makes sense. it is treating all of these files as plain text files. is there a way to change the filetypes? |
| 18:48.07 | francesc2 | jelly-home: should I use the operator ">>" or ">"? |
| 18:48.23 | desaj | nkuttler: hmm ... is there a way to verify that the iso was written correctly onto my usbstick? |
| 18:48.30 | jelly-home | francesc2: use whichever works in your shell and does not report an error |
| 18:48.31 | OldParr | debian-7.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso is 64 bits ? |
| 18:48.40 | nkuttler | desaj: maybe https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple can help |
| 18:48.48 | mtn | daveeejr: quick google search found this: http://www.libre-software.net/change-the-default-application-ubuntu-linux |
| 18:48.52 | nkuttler | desaj: i don't think macs can mount ext |
| 18:48.53 | francesc2 | jelly-home: How does "pastebin" work? |
| 18:48.54 | jordanm | desaj: you can try comparing the md5sum of the cd to that of the ISO |
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| 18:48.58 | jelly-home | !tell francesc2 about paste |
| 18:48.58 | GullemAspara | OldParr: yup. |
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| 18:49.34 | nkuttler | also why is the list css on https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple totally broken... |
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| 18:50.22 | desaj | this is what i have ... https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple/MacBookPro/7-1 .... but it seems useless for this part. |
| 18:50.24 | francesc2 | jelly-home: Got it. |
| 18:50.31 | nkuttler | looks at the page source and shudders |
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| 18:50.54 | nkuttler | desaj: try what jordanm suggested |
| 18:50.56 | OldParr | GullemAspara: is debian-7.1.0-i386-netinst.iso 32 bits? |
| 18:52.07 | desaj | ok |
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| 18:52.32 | DNS | OldParr: i think so |
| 18:52.46 | DNS | OldParr: and amd64 = 64bits |
| 18:52.51 | DNS | =_= |
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| 18:54.58 | francesc2 | jelly-home: http://pastebin.com/vdsN1RQT I think this is it. |
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| 18:55.51 | jelly-home | francesc2: that's the whole thing, I hoped you'd pastebin ONLY the changes that happen after a device delete attempt |
| 18:56.09 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I see. |
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| 18:57.10 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I didn't pay attention. |
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| 18:58.04 | francesc2 | jelly-home: personally. What do you do to spin an external disk down? |
| 18:58.15 | jelly-home | francesc2: umount and that echo. |
| 18:58.31 | francesc2 | jelly-home: do you use the echo? |
| 18:58.35 | jelly-home | yes |
| 18:58.36 | francesc2 | Sorry, do you use a gui? |
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| 18:58.55 | jelly-home | not for mounting/umounting or file management |
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| 18:59.48 | jelly-home | but yes, I use either xfce or kde4 as my working environment |
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| 19:00.04 | jelly-home | mostly filled with dozens of terminals |
| 19:00.04 | francesc2 | jelly-home: the effects of the echo command, are not "permanent". Since we proved that connecting it again, the hard disk works again. Right? |
| 19:00.27 | jelly-home | francesc2: at this point, I'm not sure you even did the echo right |
| 19:00.57 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I did. The disk was unmounted, and was not visible in the file manager. |
| 19:01.06 | jelly-home | waiting for those added lines |
| 19:01.30 | francesc2 | jelly-home: sorry. |
| 19:01.34 | jelly-home | francesc2: you can also see the same messages in /var/log/kern.log file, where they have absolute timestamps |
| 19:01.45 | daveeejr | mtn: thanks. i am editing some .mime files to include text/x-gcode and the ext = gcode. i'll let you know if it works |
| 19:01.53 | francesc2 | jelly-home: "timestamps"? |
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| 19:02.09 | jelly-home | francesc2: just look at the file. |
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| 19:02.36 | francesc2 | jelly-home: just a sec. |
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| 19:03.20 | francesc2 | jelly-home: there is nothing there. |
| 19:03.46 | jelly-home | francesc2: the file is empty? |
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| 19:04.02 | francesc2 | jelly-home: Sorry, I think I should open it as root. :) |
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| 19:04.30 | jelly-home | francesc2: or a member of group adm |
| 19:04.34 | francesc2 | Ok. What lines whould I post you? |
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| 19:04.39 | daveeejr | mtn: didn't work. i |
| 19:04.56 | daveeejr | mtn: i'm gonna try a few different ways, but i'm on the right track |
| 19:04.59 | daveeejr | mtn: thanks for the help |
| 19:05.03 | mtn | daveeejr: I guess it was worth a try. good luck |
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| 19:05.17 | jelly-home | francesc2: run that echo again, wait for 5-10 seconds, pastebin any new lines that happen after it |
| 19:05.52 | francesc2 | jelly-home: at the moment the disk is not connected. should I repeat the whole procedure again? Connect the disk, etc. |
| 19:06.19 | jelly-home | francesc2: wouldn't make much sense otherwise |
| 19:06.41 | francesc2 | jelly-home: question, can I damage the disk disconnecting it repeatedly in the "unsafe" manner? |
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| 19:07.21 | jelly-home | francesc2: if there's nothing accessing it, there's a small chance of damage |
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| 19:07.34 | francesc2 | jelly-home: can you repeat me the command I should use with echo? |
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| 19:07.50 | jelly-home | francesc2: look at dmesg output after connecting the device. Then umount (if mounted) and "echo 1 >> /sys/block/sdb/device/delete" again, and pastebin the changes (new lines) from dmesg |
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| 19:07.56 | jarray52 | When using kde in debian, I'm having problems openning an X11 session through ssh. For example, running gvim after sshing to the target gives me the error message: E233: cannot open display |
| 19:07.57 | jarray52 | ** (gvim:19018): WARNING **: Command line `dbus-launch --autolaunch=<long hexidecimal number> --binary-syntax --close-stderr' exited with non-zero exit status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n |
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| 19:09.07 | jelly-home | jarray52: debian and kde is running on your local workstation? |
| 19:09.17 | jarray52 | Yes |
| 19:09.22 | francesc2 | jelly-home: where should I find the new lines. For me, it's all confused. How can I simply recognize where the new lines are? |
| 19:09.35 | jarray52 | jelly-home: And, I'm sshing into my laptop. |
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| 19:10.16 | jarray52 | jelly-home: for the purpose of getting more screen realestate |
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| 19:10.24 | jelly-home | francesc2: look at either dmesg or /var/log/kern.log before and after, new lines appear there when a device is connected, or disconnected, or when device delete is attempted |
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| 19:10.44 | francesc2 | jelly-home: right on the top? |
| 19:10.47 | jelly-home | francesc2: new lines are appended at the end, this is a linear log. |
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| 19:11.19 | jelly-home | francesc2: read it from top to bottom |
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| 19:11.37 | jelly-home | new log lines always get appended at the bottom |
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| 19:11.48 | francesc2 | jelly-home: alright. |
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| 19:12.18 | jmcnaught | jarray52: are you using "ssh -X laptop" ? |
| 19:12.21 | jelly-home | francesc2: use timestamps to help detecting what's new, or leave the old file in one terminal and open a new one to look at the same thing after an action |
| 19:12.22 | francesc2 | It's pretty long. However, I think I found the lines you were referring to. |
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| 19:13.14 | jarray52 | jmcnaught: Thanks for pointing that out... can't believe I missed that. |
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| 19:13.47 | jelly-home | jarray52: well, remote commands will still appear on the same local screen, not on the laptop |
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| 19:14.23 | jarray52 | jelly-home: What do you mean by that? |
| 19:14.24 | francesc2 | jelly-home: by timestamps, you the mean the time reported to the left of the line? |
| 19:14.34 | jelly-home | jarray52: purpose defeated |
| 19:14.41 | jelly-home | francesc2: indeed |
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| 19:15.32 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I just did the echo. You said I should wait 5 mins? |
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| 19:15.41 | jelly-home | francesc2: no, 5-10 seconds |
| 19:15.57 | jelly-home | francesc2: did the echo command return any error? |
| 19:15.59 | francesc2 | Alright. |
| 19:16.17 | jelly-home | or did the prompt just return (that's expected) |
| 19:16.27 | francesc2 | Let me see. So far, the icon of the disk disappeard from the file manager. |
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| 19:17.12 | francesc2 | jelly-home: no new line has been added so far. |
| 19:17.24 | jelly-home | that's weird |
| 19:17.38 | jelly-home | francesc2: which kernel are you using? uname -a |
| 19:17.54 | jarray52 | jelly-home: ssh -X laptop seems to work. Is there a problem with that command? I want the remote commands to appear on the same local screen. |
| 19:18.16 | francesc2 | inux dhcppc1 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Fri May 10 08:33:48 UTC 2013 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 19:18.27 | jelly-home | jarray52: no problem, then. I may have misunderstood your intentions |
| 19:18.28 | francesc2 | jelly-home: that's it. |
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| 19:20.03 | jarray52 | jelly-home: The only issue I have is with speed. When running skype from my laptop over an ssh connection with X on my workstation, it is a bit slow. Any way to speed it up? The connection between laptop and workstation should be fast. |
| 19:20.04 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I think the file was open by nano when I was did the echo. Was the kernel able to write it while it was open? |
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| 19:20.26 | jelly-home | francesc2: yes, that's not a problem |
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| 19:20.50 | jelly-home | francesc2: however nano will probably not show changes done behind its back |
| 19:20.54 | jmcnaught | jarray52: you could try "ssh -C" for compression, but ssh is a slow protocol |
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| 19:21.09 | francesc2 | jelly-home: If I open it again, it should. |
| 19:21.23 | jelly-home | francesc2: use less to view text files. |
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| 19:21.40 | francesc2 | jelly-home: why? |
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| 19:21.56 | jelly-home | francesc2: because nano is an editor, and less is a viewer ("pager" |
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| 19:23.00 | francesc2 | jelly-home: still nothing. |
| 19:23.01 | sKeiths | hi there. is there a command i can run to restart mouse. i start kde with startx and mouse just sits there. i can unplug usb in and out and it will be restored but i'd like to see if I can do it programitacally |
| 19:23.04 | Cycrux | i love nano |
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| 19:23.21 | jelly-home | francesc2: yeah, if it didn't happen in 10 seconds or so, it won't happen |
| 19:23.47 | francesc2 | jelly-home: perhaps it didn't affect the kernel. |
| 19:23.47 | Cycrux | VI is evil |
| 19:23.47 | jelly-home | francesc2: I guess it's possible the kernel in squeeze is too old to deal with your hardware properly |
| 19:23.59 | jelly-home | !start an editor war |
| 19:23.59 | dpkg | nvi doesn't deserve to be in Debian! |
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| 19:24.12 | francesc2 | jelly-home: consider also that my hardware is indeed very old. |
| 19:24.21 | Artemis3 | use ed with a printer terminal, the way it was intended :3 |
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| 19:24.28 | jelly-home | francesc2: but that wd passport looks recent |
| 19:24.46 | francesc2 | jelly-home: the Passport hard disk is very recent. |
| 19:24.58 | francesc2 | The PC I am using is very old. |
| 19:25.03 | daveeejr | mtn: got it working! in /usr/share/mime/packages i just copied a .xml file and filled in the detail for my filetype and then sudo update-mime-database /usr/share/mime |
| 19:25.06 | francesc2 | 10 years, or so. |
| 19:25.28 | jelly-home | francesc2: oh that places it in the category of "usb support likely to be flakey" |
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| 19:25.44 | Artemis3 | nah, i have used usb even on a p100 :3 |
| 19:25.50 | francesc2 | "flakey"? |
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| 19:25.58 | mtn | daveeejr: very cool |
| 19:26.07 | jelly-home | Artemis3: not usb2/ehci controllers you didn't |
| 19:26.16 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I wanted to learn VI once, though. :D |
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| 19:26.39 | jelly-home | francesc2: in this case "flakey" as in "does not disconnect usb disks when told to" |
| 19:26.55 | Artemis3 | the other one, ohci i think, it is a crappy pcchips board, the port was optional and i got it some years ago to drive an adsl modem |
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| 19:27.23 | Artemis3 | usb 1 of course |
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| 19:28.06 | francesc2 | jelly-home: in this case, you are wrong. When I had Ubuntu installed, it worked perfectly. Then, I had to switch to LXDE, since Ubuntu became too "heavy" for me. And then the coomand "eject" desappeared. |
| 19:28.51 | jelly-home | francesc2: which ubuntu release was that? |
| 19:29.11 | francesc2 | I don't remember. |
| 19:29.15 | francesc2 | Let me check. |
| 19:29.35 | francesc2 | Ubuntu 13.04. |
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| 19:29.57 | Artemis3 | hmm with e17 i have both unmount and eject, i guess it depends on the de; well unmount should do :) unmount the thing from media in a terminal if in doubt |
| 19:30.00 | jelly-home | francesc2: that's 3-4 years newer than debian 6, why did you install debian 6 instead of 7? |
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| 19:30.07 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I think the interface had some sort of "script" hidden, involving "hdparm" or something. |
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| 19:30.32 | francesc2 | jelly-home: I wanted to install the LXDE. I didn't pay too much attention to the version actually. |
| 19:30.50 | francesc2 | I wanted a distro as light as possible. |
| 19:30.52 | jelly-home | francesc2: try debian 7 with lxde, then. |
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| 19:31.04 | Artemis3 | francesc2, try at least a base install of debian 7 and then install lxde :) |
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| 19:31.18 | jelly-home | it's not worth the trouble to just upgrade the kernel with your knowhow |
| 19:31.38 | francesc2 | Artemis3: you mean, install everything through command line mode, and the install the LXDE? |
| 19:31.40 | Artemis3 | debian 7 "wheezy" is the current stable anyway |
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| 19:32.00 | francesc2 | jelly-home: you mean "apt-get install upgrade"? |
| 19:32.06 | Artemis3 | francesc2, in the installer, you can pick a base install, then reboot then apt-get install lxde or such :) |
| 19:32.10 | jelly-home | francesc2: no. |
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| 19:32.33 | jarray52 | jelly-home: Thanks. |
| 19:32.44 | jelly-home | Artemis3: he can also read the install guide on ow to install lxde from the start |
| 19:32.51 | jelly-home | !install lxde |
| 19:32.51 | dpkg | To install <LXDE> on established systems, ask me about <install x>, then: «aptitude install lxde». To install using Debian-Installer (if not using LXDE CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > LXDE > Install". |
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| 19:32.59 | francesc2 | jelly-home: do you mean to download a new version of Debian? |
| 19:33.08 | Artemis3 | there was also a parameter to pass to the debian installer to pick another desktop at grub but i forgot ^^ |
| 19:33.25 | jelly-home | francesc2: either that, or upgrade the current release in place, which can be a bit daunting |
| 19:33.49 | Artemis3 | better install from scratch |
| 19:34.08 | francesc2 | jelly-home: however, we are talking about the kernel, not the LXDE. |
| 19:34.23 | Artemis3 | oh youll get a newer kernel |
| 19:34.39 | jelly-home | francesc2: we're talking about possible options on how to get a newer kernel |
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| 19:34.55 | francesc2 | Ok. I have to have dinner now, actually. |
| 19:34.58 | jelly-home | francesc2: installing current debian is one. |
| 19:35.33 | Artemis3 | download, eat, install :) |
| 19:35.45 | francesc2 | Before I go, why can't I do "apt-get install upgrade". I know this was Ubuntu, but doesn't it work on Debian too? |
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| 19:35.59 | francesc2 | Artemis3: I have to work tomorrow. The whole day. |
| 19:36.04 | francesc2 | :D |
| 19:36.40 | Artemis3 | you can, but if you are not an expert, you might take a lot and also make mistakes. Last time i tried, i had to aptitude dist-upgrade and answer no to the first question, not very intuitive :) (something about rpc) |
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| 19:37.24 | francesc2 | Artemis3: Ok. I have to go now. Thank you for your help. Perhaps I will be here on monday. |
| 19:37.28 | francesc2 | Ciao. |
| 19:37.32 | Artemis3 | have fun |
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| 19:37.53 | sKeiths | i've tried rmmod + modprobe , usbhid and ehci_hid . and tried /etc/init.d/hal restart. didn't help |
| 19:38.49 | Artemis3 | hmm i always use modprobe -r module instead of rmmod ^^ |
| 19:39.19 | sKeiths | any idea of what module is used from usb mouse |
| 19:39.27 | sKeiths | for^ |
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| 19:43.06 | sKeiths | i think rmmod will remove the module more forcefully that modprobe -r |
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| 19:50.36 | sKeiths | i had to resort to unplugging it out and back in. from dmesg i see it uses the ohci, not ehci. i'll try that next time. |
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| 19:53.27 | aguitel | can i copy some movie file (.avi) to flashdrive (pendrive) with dd command ? |
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| 19:53.51 | babilen | aguitel: Sure, but why would you want to do that? |
| 19:54.29 | aguitel | babilen, coz some times is impossible to do with other options |
| 19:54.36 | babilen | how so? |
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| 19:54.54 | aguitel | cp command |
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| 19:55.07 | sKeiths | can i merge the two commands together like "rmmod ohci_hcd && modprobe ohci_hcd" just in case i lose usb keyboard and cant type |
| 19:55.53 | babilen | aguitel: Well, the answer to your question is "yes" -- but then I can hardly think of a case in which you would have to do that. Your example "cp command" is not understandable, but then ... you have your answer. |
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| 19:56.22 | robert5 | what is the best channel to ask a TC question in? I want to know how to reset / flush all tc commands and start "fresh" with a clean system |
| 19:56.34 | aguitel | babilen, ok |
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| 19:58.22 | jelly-home | robert5: hmm... /msg alis list *netfilter* ? |
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| 19:58.49 | babilen | robert5: You could try ##networking, quite a competent channel which is very likely to fix your problem if paired with expertise from #netfilter |
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| 20:00.45 | jelly-home | the name of ##networking channel does not scream "linux specific" tho |
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| 20:02.11 | babilen | no it doesn't ... it's quite active at times though (rather a bit earlier) - #netfilter is certainly another good option, but then discussing this is not really #debian material |
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| 20:03.08 | hds | hello |
| 20:03.47 | hds | do you know if certain package is vulnerable to a certain vulnerability? |
| 20:04.06 | hds | I have this information: Apache/2.2.16 on debian squeeze14 |
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| 20:04.26 | hds | 2.2.16 is vulnerable to denial of service via range header |
| 20:04.27 | babilen | dpkg: tell hds -about tracker of doom |
| 20:04.39 | Th0masR0ss | hds: consider upgrading to wheezy |
| 20:05.01 | hds | i have no control over the system |
| 20:05.02 | babilen | hds: Check the information for the CVE in question on our tracker ... and you *really* should upgrade to wheezy or at least plan your upgrade path |
| 20:05.04 | Th0masR0ss | also |
| 20:05.24 | hds | it's an audit, but i am not sure whether the apache is vulnerable or not |
| 20:05.31 | Th0masR0ss | but i have no idea |
| 20:05.38 | babilen | hds: What's the CVE in question? |
| 20:05.41 | hds | let me see |
| 20:06.01 | hds | CVE-2011-3192 |
| 20:06.05 | babilen | ta |
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| 20:06.41 | babilen | dpkg: cve lookup CVE-2011-3192 |
| 20:06.42 | dpkg | Information about the security advisory CVE-2011-3192 may be found at http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2011-3192 |
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| 20:07.00 | babilen | hds: As you can see: You are fine! |
| 20:07.05 | hds | it seems is fixed |
| 20:07.07 | hds | apache2 (PTS)squeeze2.2.16-6+squeeze10fixed |
| 20:07.08 | hds | yes |
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| 20:07.17 | babilen | \o/ |
| 20:07.26 | hds | ok, thank you |
| 20:07.59 | hds | :9 |
| 20:08.26 | babilen | You are welcome, is there anything else we can do for you tonight? |
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| 20:09.03 | jelly-home | wonders what the :9 emoticon is supposed to stand for |
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| 20:09.47 | hds | thank you babilen, that's all |
| 20:10.05 | hds | but maybe hm |
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| 20:10.20 | hds | is it possible to list the possible vulnerabilities in a release? |
| 20:10.43 | hds | like |
| 20:10.57 | hds | Vulnerable packages in the squeeze16 suite |
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| 20:11.08 | babilen | hds: sure, one second please |
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| 20:11.29 | jelly-home | !tracker of doom |
| 20:11.29 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
| 20:11.39 | babilen | hds: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/ has links for all releases ... the bot sent you ^^^ earlier |
| 20:11.51 | hds | I am there jelly-home |
| 20:12.14 | babilen | So, for example, https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/stable lists all CVE relevant for wheezy (stable) |
| 20:12.14 | jelly-home | is here |
| 20:12.43 | hds | ok, thank you again |
| 20:12.44 | jelly-home | do you mean, the "Vulnerable packages in the oldstable suite" link, babilen? |
| 20:13.07 | jelly-home | (for, say, squeeze) |
| 20:13.15 | babilen | hds: Please note that this information is manually updated and may therefore be out of date or incomplete ... trust information that says "it is this way" and do not assume anything just because it isn't listed. |
| 20:13.38 | babilen | jelly-home: yeah, that would have been more appropriate, but meh .. :) |
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| 20:14.29 | hds | ok, I am only interested in the apache package |
| 20:14.33 | hds | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/apache2 |
| 20:14.44 | babilen | yay for self help! :) |
| 20:14.54 | jelly-home | !win self-help |
| 20:14.55 | dpkg | Congratulations, self-help! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 20:15.03 | hds | \0/ |
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| 20:15.11 | hds | wuwuuw |
| 20:15.13 | mechanicalduck | Where can I get autoreconf command? In what package does it hide? (Debian Wheezy 7) |
| 20:15.23 | babilen | dpkg: tell mechanicalduck -about apt-file |
| 20:15.26 | jordanm | ,file bin/autoreconf |
| 20:15.31 | judd | Search for bin/autoreconf in wheezy/i386: autoconf: usr/bin/autoreconf; autoconf2.13: usr/bin/autoreconf |
| 20:15.51 | babilen | jordanm: high five! |
| 20:16.51 | babilen | mechanicalduck: For extra spam and ham run: apt-file -x "bin/autoreconf$ |
| 20:16.52 | m8 | Anyone did have problems with vmware-tools on jessie? |
| 20:17.07 | babilen | m8: Check on http://bugs.debian.org for known problems |
| 20:17.12 | babilen | err |
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| 20:17.29 | jelly-home | m8: we're using open-vm-tools on wheezy (and will probably continue using it later) |
| 20:17.34 | babilen | given that vmware-tools is not packaged by us that would be a bad idea |
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| 20:18.12 | m8 | jelly-home, vmware-open-tools support cut & paste and drag and drop? |
| 20:18.29 | jelly-home | m8: dunno, I'm not running X on VMs |
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| 20:18.50 | KamiKaze_Phoenix | hello |
| 20:19.01 | KamiKaze_Phoenix | i try linux on RK3066, but i haven t /dev/input/mice how i can have this ? i use debian |
| 20:19.07 | jelly-home | m8: open-vm-tools are supposed to be a full replacement tho |
| 20:19.18 | jelly-home | KamiKaze_Phoenix: ask whoever provides your kernel |
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| 20:19.38 | KamiKaze_Phoenix | jelly-home: mice is in kernel ? |
| 20:19.51 | jelly-home | KamiKaze_Phoenix: drivers for input devices are, yes. |
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| 20:20.03 | KamiKaze_Phoenix | jelly-home: thk |
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| 20:20.35 | m8 | jelly-home, very good! |
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| 20:21.11 | m8 | jelly-home, package is open-vm-tools and toolbox? |
| 20:21.26 | jelly-home | yes |
| 20:21.53 | KamiKaze_Phoenix | ok very great thk to jelly-home , have a good day |
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| 20:22.33 | jelly-home | m8: don't forget the dkms bits, not sure if they get installed as dependencies |
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| 20:22.58 | jelly-home | gby kamik_ph |
| 20:23.35 | m8 | dkms? |
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| 20:24.40 | jelly-home | ,i open-vm-dkms --release jessie |
| 20:24.41 | judd | Package open-vm-dkms (kernel, extra) in jessie/i386: Source for VMware guest systems driver (DKMS). Version: 2:9.2.2-893683-6; Size: 407.8k; Installed: 5529k; Homepage: http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 20:26.27 | m8 | good |
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| 20:32.17 | m8 | jelly-home, there is a gtk gui? |
| 20:33.41 | jelly-home | no idea |
| 20:33.56 | jelly-home | m8: have you looked at what else is there? apt-cache search open-vm |
| 20:34.04 | m8 | yes |
| 20:34.14 | m8 | i've installed open-vm-tools, toolbox and dkms |
| 20:35.10 | jelly-home | and are there any gtk gui tools in the open-vm-toolbox package? |
| 20:36.43 | m8 | yes |
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| 20:38.22 | SmashingX | is it possible to connect to a machine that's connected to a VPN via SSH? |
| 20:38.34 | SmashingX | is it possible to connect to a machine that's connected to a VPN via SSH (either using the old IP or the new one)? |
| 20:38.43 | jelly-home | SmashingX: sure, why not |
| 20:38.51 | SmashingX | well, I can't |
| 20:38.59 | SmashingX | how can I do that? |
| 20:39.35 | jelly-home | SmashingX: after confirming correct routes are in place, ask your vpn provider whether there are any other restrictions in place. |
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| 20:40.02 | SmashingX | What you mean by "confirming correct routes are in place'? |
| 20:40.15 | DammitJim | currently, how different is wheezy from jessie? |
| 20:40.39 | jelly-home | SmashingX: can you reach the vpn address for the destination machine at all (with eg. ping)? |
| 20:41.02 | hds | I have another question, can I know if a package is outdated by the compilation date? |
| 20:41.09 | jelly-home | SmashingX: and can you confirm that traffic goes over the vpn link? |
| 20:41.18 | hds | I got a php 5.3.3.7-squeeze14 built on February 15 |
| 20:41.44 | SmashingX | that's for sure |
| 20:41.52 | jelly-home | hds: build date is not relevant; availability of a newer version is. |
| 20:41.59 | SmashingX | jelly-home: the computer has connection to the outside |
| 20:42.04 | jelly-home | ,v php5 --release oldstable |
| 20:42.06 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze14 |
| 20:42.15 | jelly-home | hds: that looks up to date. |
| 20:42.23 | SmashingX | jelly-home: with the VPN IP |
| 20:42.35 | hds | but I see backports from June |
| 20:42.42 | hds | http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-4635 |
| 20:42.45 | hds | I have no access on the machine |
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| 20:42.59 | jelly-home | hds: backports are not enabled or used by default |
| 20:43.53 | hds | mmm, with the provided information, and without having access to the machine |
| 20:43.53 | jelly-home | hds: what does debian's security tracker say about that CVE id? |
| 20:44.01 | hds | may I say the php is outdated? |
| 20:44.12 | hds | it says that the issue is fixed |
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| 20:44.21 | hds | I supposed the compilation time changes between backports |
| 20:44.23 | jelly-home | hds: then it's fixed. |
| 20:44.45 | hds | so I got a php from Feb15 and the last backport is from Jun26 |
| 20:45.02 | hds | may I say it is outdated? |
| 20:45.22 | jelly-home | SmashingX: um... outside? are both the source and the destination machine inside the vpn network? |
| 20:45.34 | SmashingX | yep |
| 20:45.36 | jelly-home | hds: no. What do you mean by "backport"? |
| 20:45.56 | jelly-home | SmashingX: I don't see why "outside" is relevant, then |
| 20:46.01 | hds | Im a bit confused |
| 20:46.06 | jelly-home | SmashingX: can you ping the destination or not? |
| 20:46.26 | hds | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/php5 |
| 20:46.40 | hds | I have a php compiled in Feb15 |
| 20:47.06 | hds | the last resolved issue is CVE-2013-4636 |
| 20:47.34 | hds | the date of the CVE is june 21 |
| 20:47.48 | jelly-home | hds: look, go to https://security-tracker.debian.org/, put the CVE id in the search form and click [Go] button |
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| 20:48.04 | hds | yes I see |
| 20:48.22 | SmashingX | I can ping the destination jelly-home |
| 20:48.27 | hds | but what I am trying to figure is |
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| 20:48.47 | hds | if the php5.3.3.7-squeeze14 was compiled on Feb15 |
| 20:48.50 | jelly-home | hds: that takes you to https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2013-4635 which says 5.3.3-7+squeeze16 is vulnerable -- not fixed yet for squeeze |
| 20:49.06 | hds | it's not possible to have the last issue solved |
| 20:49.07 | jelly-home | hds: it says the sam thing for 5.3.3-7+squeeze14 |
| 20:49.20 | hds | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2013-4636 that's the link |
| 20:49.29 | ctmjr | SmashingX: what error do you get when trying ssh |
| 20:49.55 | jelly-home | hds: do not rely on build dates -- Debian might have fixed things even before a CVE was assigned |
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| 20:50.09 | SmashingX | ctmjr: it's asking for a password but then I give the password and it says that is not correct |
| 20:50.14 | hds | that's not logic jelly-home |
| 20:50.22 | jelly-home | hds: no, it's fact. |
| 20:50.33 | hds | ne |
| 20:50.38 | SmashingX | ctmjr: and you are talking about SSH to the VPN IP right? |
| 20:50.44 | hds | how do you solve an issue not yet discovered? |
| 20:51.07 | jelly-home | hds: it was discovered and fixed a long time ago, but CVE was not assigned at that time |
| 20:51.31 | hds | cve from june, buil date february |
| 20:51.32 | hds | https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=64895 |
| 20:51.33 | jelly-home | (that's just one possible way it could have happened) |
| 20:51.36 | ctmjr | SmashingX: thats what you said you could not connect via ssh but can ping the destination |
| 20:51.41 | hds | the issue was sent on may |
| 20:52.07 | ctmjr | if you do not knoe the correct password there is not alot we can do to help you |
| 20:52.17 | SmashingX | ctmjr: I can ping the target IP |
| 20:52.19 | jelly-home | SmashingX: have you confirmed with the host key fingerprint you're connected to the right machine? |
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| 20:53.13 | jelly-home | SmashingX: "asking for a password" means a connection was actually established |
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| 20:53.37 | SmashingX | jelly-home: I know that |
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| 20:53.54 | SmashingX | jelly-home: the problem is that it seems like I'm connecting to a different pc |
| 20:54.07 | jelly-home | SmashingX: does it have the right host key? |
| 20:54.19 | squisher | hey folks, anyone here using tex with koma/fontspec? I can't get the tex gyre fonts to work sanely on my sid machine (spaces in names are required) vs my wheezy (no spaces required) |
| 20:54.20 | jelly-home | if it's not the same host key, it's not the same machine |
| 20:54.30 | jelly-home | (or you're getting MITMed |
| 20:55.03 | SmashingX | jelly-home: how do I know that? |
| 20:55.19 | jelly-home | SmashingX: next time you're on the remote machine, do ssh localhost and check the host key is the same as the one you get when connecting from remote over vpn |
| 20:55.40 | jelly-home | SmashingX: ssh client shows the host key every single time you connect |
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| 21:00.46 | jelly-home | hds: the notes at the bottom of https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2013-4636 explain when the bug was actually introduced, and Debian maintainers confirmed the faulty code was never in squeeze |
| 21:01.04 | jelly-home | hds: that's the line with [squeeze] - php5 <not-affected> (Introduced with 10367fa7c6a4a2cf9bee02d8905e284185428f09) |
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| 21:02.47 | jelly-home | hds: and "Tested with the squeeze and wheezy versions" |
| 21:03.40 | hds | let's take another example jelly-home |
| 21:03.43 | hds | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2013-4113 |
| 21:04.20 | hds | well, that's not a good one |
| 21:04.36 | jelly-home | hds: that one was fixed with 5.3.3-7+squeeze16 |
| 21:04.50 | hds | yes, but I have a squeeze14 |
| 21:04.54 | jelly-home | hds: so upgrade. |
| 21:05.12 | hds | I'm trying to know if the administrator has the system upgraded |
| 21:05.47 | jelly-home | hds: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy php5" please. |
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| 21:06.08 | hds | let me see if I have the phpinfo |
| 21:06.18 | hds | I did the audit some weeks ago |
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| 21:07.00 | jelly-home | hds: not interested in phpinfo, can you do the apt-cache commands or not? |
| 21:07.39 | hds | no, I have no access on the system |
| 21:08.04 | jelly-home | hds: ask the admin to do it, those will show whether the fixed version is available and whether the sources.list is properly configured |
| 21:08.15 | hds | I cannot do it |
| 21:08.31 | hds | I am making the final report |
| 21:08.32 | jelly-home | you cannot ask the admin...? |
| 21:08.36 | hds | nop |
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| 21:08.53 | jelly-home | you're SOL then |
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| 21:09.22 | hds | I report the system as outdated |
| 21:09.39 | hds | I am reviewing the evidence to not make a false possitve |
| 21:09.47 | jelly-home | hds: if it has 5.3.3-7+squeeze14, that'd be correct, yes |
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| 21:10.31 | nAn00k | oh thank go i was about to shoot myself in the ubuntu channel |
| 21:10.35 | nAn00k | god |
| 21:10.39 | hds | but what about the compilation date? |
| 21:11.02 | jelly-home | hds: that is not relevant at all |
| 21:11.03 | hds | is it possible to install that specific version of the o.s? |
| 21:11.14 | hds | I could install it and see the build date |
| 21:11.19 | jelly-home | package version is what's relevant |
| 21:11.26 | hds | I think is a bit relevant |
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| 21:11.49 | jelly-home | let me repeat: do not rely on the build date. |
| 21:12.03 | jelly-home | DO rely on the package version however. |
| 21:12.31 | hds | why cant I do rely on the build date? |
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| 21:13.12 | hds | if the package is build with solved issues the build date must change, i think |
| 21:13.19 | jelly-home | because fixes can be made even before a CVE is assigned, or not be needed at all |
| 21:13.21 | hds | I want to verify that point |
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| 21:13.36 | hds | well, I am not talking about the cve's |
| 21:13.46 | hds | I want to compare now the build date of the latest php package |
| 21:13.52 | hds | with the one that I got |
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| 21:14.18 | hds | I'm going to see if is possible to install the squeeze14 one |
| 21:14.31 | jelly-home | don't do that, use the package versions. Build dates vary based on the architecture. |
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| 21:14.43 | hds | I have the architecture too |
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| 21:15.22 | jelly-home | gives up |
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| 21:15.39 | hds | I would like to obtain more information properly but I'm not able to |
| 21:15.42 | hds | sorry |
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| 21:16.01 | hds | but thank you, you are ver patient |
| 21:16.05 | hds | very* |
| 21:16.13 | hds | i'm a cabeciduro |
| 21:16.27 | jelly-home | yeah, it's hard to support anything without access to actual system |
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| 21:17.27 | jmcnaught | for what it's worth, you don't need to be root to run apt-cache |
| 21:18.37 | hds | no way to execute commands |
| 21:18.40 | hds | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/6.0.7/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.7-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 21:19.00 | hds | this should be the squeeze14, or am I wrong? |
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| 21:21.36 | jelly-home | hds: if you have phpinfo(), just look at Core / PHP Version5.4.4-14 |
| 21:22.54 | jelly-home | hds: you can install whatever version you need from snapshot.debian.org even if the installer already has squeeze16 |
| 21:23.11 | jelly-home | !tell hds about sdo |
| 21:23.38 | hds | what's the difference between squeeze14 and squeeze16? |
| 21:23.49 | hds | I saw some issues were solved in 16 but not in 14 |
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| 21:24.18 | jhutchins | hds: Will you be able to ask your admin questions in the future? |
| 21:24.37 | hds | I don't think so |
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| 21:24.59 | hds | well, I just realized the build date is August 2012 |
| 21:25.13 | hds | February15 was another date |
| 21:25.21 | jhutchins | hds: That's too bad, it might be good to have a document from him explaining why version numbers are what's significant and what the policy for updating them is. |
| 21:25.32 | jhutchins | hds: Get off the build date! |
| 21:25.37 | hds | xDD |
| 21:25.43 | jelly-home | hds: http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/php5.html -> oldstable -> Debian changelog -> http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/p/php5/php5_5.3.3-7+squeeze16_changelog |
| 21:25.56 | jelly-home | hds: why do you care about the build date? |
| 21:26.45 | hds | because that's an indicator of a component update |
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| 21:26.53 | jelly-home | hds: who told you that? |
| 21:27.05 | hds | almost a year from the build date |
| 21:27.28 | jelly-home | hds: build dates and changelog dates do not correspond exactly |
| 21:27.46 | jelly-home | (but they are usually fairly close) |
| 21:27.56 | hds | in one year debian had fixed a lot of bugs |
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| 21:28.39 | jelly-home | not really, they fixed 3 (three) bugs, and confirmed some more did not exist in squeeze at all |
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| 21:30.22 | hds | do you know if http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/6.0.7/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.7-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 21:30.28 | hds | is squeeze14 or squeeze16? |
| 21:30.37 | jelly-home | no |
| 21:31.03 | action09 | hi all, anyone can recommend me any simple mutli tabs text editor on Debian stable ? i need only basic.. i've got geany and leafpad but not satisifed... |
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| 21:31.28 | squisher | action09, gedit? |
| 21:31.35 | jelly-home | hds: netinst image probably won't have php on it at all. The latest will get downloaded from the default repos and you're going to get 5.3.3-7+squeeze16 |
| 21:31.48 | jhutchins | action09: I think vim-x can do tabs. |
| 21:31.55 | hds | :c |
| 21:33.10 | jelly-home | hds: but if you know the version installed is 5.3.3-7+squeeze14, that's not up-to-date and problem solved. |
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| 21:33.56 | hds | ok, that0s all |
| 21:34.02 | action09 | squisher i'm on lxde, but if it's not too big why not :) thx |
| 21:34.31 | action09 | jhutchins ok let's try :) thx. |
| 21:34.43 | squisher | action09, it may pull in some gnome deps, but you already tried the normal 'light' editors |
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| 21:35.59 | action09 | yep |
| 21:36.14 | action09 | ok thx squisher & jhutchins for answering :) |
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| 21:37.15 | groolot | is there a simple way to uninstall the Desktop Environnement ? |
| 21:37.30 | squisher | action09, hm, http://wiki.xfce.org/recommendedapps also mentions medit (but I have never used it) |
| 21:37.54 | groolot | During the installation, it was just a check box to select, but now in aptitude, I'm not sure to remove all the corresponding packages |
| 21:37.58 | edju | Running testing. Cannot print envelopes. hplip 3.13.4-1+b1. hp-check says "debian-testing is not supported. Using Debian 6.0.7 versions dependencies to verify and install" A bunch of dependency errors, either not installed or incompatible versions for the cups stuff. I don'r know if the envelope problem is related or not - other than envelopes., it prints fine. I'm thinking of running hp-doctor, but not sure it's safe wha |
| 21:37.58 | edju | t with Squeeze versions and all. Any advice? |
| 21:38.27 | groolot | any advice about removing allthe desktop packages ? |
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| 21:43.15 | squisher | groolot, I'm not sure if I have ever tried it, but maybe run tasksel again and see if you can uncheck? |
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| 21:52.18 | groolot | squisher: thx |
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| 22:12.32 | cyrano | cron-apt doesn't appear in crontab... who can help me? if i launch 'crontab -l' i receive 'no crontab for root'... please it's important because i'd like to configure automatic security updates... thanks a lot guys |
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| 22:27.55 | z3l | :) |
| 22:28.05 | z3l | (: |
| 22:28.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | :| |
| 22:29.37 | z3l | My school educator had eyebrows like that. |
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| 22:30.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://pastebin.com/H3smLjt0 guys can you help me fix my library issue? |
| 22:31.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | uh... |
| 22:31.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, tell Eryn_1983_FL about apt-file |
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| 22:32.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | ? |
| 22:32.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | read it :) |
| 22:32.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | well see if that works.. |
| 22:32.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | but I really wonder why you should be lacking that one |
| 22:32.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's in libx11-6 |
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| 22:32.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah |
| 22:32.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | which pretty much every X install should have |
| 22:33.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, and which you already found you have |
| 22:33.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | Eryn_1983_FL, what does file "tyr-quake" say? |
| 22:34.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | wat do you mean |
| 22:34.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | err |
| 22:34.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | "file tyr-quake" |
| 22:34.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:34.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | tyr-quake: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, stripped |
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| 22:35.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | there you are... it's a 32 bit executable... and your lib is 64 bit |
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| 22:35.20 | Eryn_1983_FL | so can i get the 32bit one? |
| 22:35.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | yeah |
| 22:35.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, multiarch |
| 22:35.42 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
| 22:36.17 | ctmjr | cyrano: man gron-apt should point you in the right direction it has been a long time since I used it. |
| 22:36.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | but then i would have to reinstall my os then? |
| 22:36.32 | ctmjr | *gron/cron |
| 22:36.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | then it's libx11-6:i386 |
| 22:37.11 | cyrano | ctmjr: ok.. thank you... i'll see |
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| 23:19.40 | Leonassan | Could someone please tell me why eth1, which is set to static, is grabbing a dhcp address every 15 minutes or so? |
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| 23:27.26 | thedudez0r | hello, im trying to run a program that's complaining about glibc saying GLIBC_2.15 NOT FOUND |
| 23:27.35 | thedudez0r | from what i gathered the version installed is glibc2.13, but from what i've read this is a very sensible library |
| 23:27.43 | thedudez0r | so i wouldn't want to mess with it until i can get some help as to what could i do in this case in order to run the app |
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| 23:28.50 | cristiancv | hello |
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| 23:29.50 | cristiancv | excuse me everybody how can i settup openldap to work with dovecot 2.1.7 and postfix 2.9? |
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| 23:30.31 | babilen | thedudez0r: I woulnd't install a later glibc and the program you are trying to run should be recompiled against the libc6 in wheezy. |
| 23:30.58 | babilen | (I wouldn't install binary software that targets different releases without thinking twice) |
| 23:31.29 | Leonassan | Anyone? Eth1 being stupid? Keeps dropping my connection? Going insane? :) |
| 23:32.12 | babilen | the latter |
| 23:32.42 | babilen | Leonassan: Check if you have various management tools running at the same time (/e/n/i, network-manager, wicd, ...) |
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| 23:34.22 | Leonassan | babilen: This is a fairly fresh debian install, anything in particular I should look for? |
| 23:35.05 | Leonassan | babilen: also, would any of those override an entry of "iface eth1 inet static"? |
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| 23:38.40 | Leonassan | And I'm back, if anyone said anything. |
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| 23:41.56 | reavengrey | I said, hurry up with my damn croissants! |
| 23:42.32 | Leonassan | removed network-manager, we'll see if that stops the stupidity. |
| 23:44.22 | Rix | i have several websites, seems that one of them behaves bad (the system for example wp), i checked df -i for inodes and see 300k used (which is way more than normal). how can i check where in the system there is a directory with many files? so that i can fix it |
| 23:47.19 | Leonassan | Disabling network-manager did not fix it. Any further suggestions? |
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