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| 00:01.40 | Some_Person | I can't believe I'm asking this. Is there any way to use Shockwave with Linux? My dad is refusing to use Linux solely because there's some stupid game he plays that requires it |
| 00:02.44 | Some_Person | I don't even have Shockwave installed on any of my Windows machines |
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| 00:06.17 | Vicissitude | Some_Person, not natively, no. You might be able to do it via wine or Crossover, however |
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| 00:11.21 | edju | Running testing here, and have an hp printer. Having some problems printing. hplip does not support testing, and a number of dependencies are the wrong versions or so hp-check tells me. All the relevant files are from the main repositories. Are there any drivers other than hplip I could try? |
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| 00:13.38 | edju | Or, perhaps, I could try hpijs rather than hp-cups? How might I do that? |
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| 00:40.58 | devios | i had a vsftpd install on last version of debian with system users and virtual users managed with pam pwdfile. I upgraded to debian wheezy and vsftpd doesn't work anymore. i see entries in /var/log/auth when i try to connect, but ftp clients hang at "connecting" and time out. what about the debian upgrade would break a working vsftpd? i noted that the upgrade tried to overwrite vsftpd.conf, but I kept my version. |
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| 01:01.30 | gnarface | devios: the answers you seek probably lie in the differences between those config files, but i'm just guessing. |
| 01:01.55 | gnarface | devios: most people are going to tell you that you should be using sftp through ssh and that *ftpd is dead |
| 01:02.35 | zykotick9 | gnarface: i agree, to both of your statements ;) |
| 01:05.55 | civillian | Hi all, I see a message in dmesg which says RF_KILL bit toggled to disable radio |
| 01:06.03 | civillian | obviously my wifi isn't working |
| 01:06.15 | civillian | if I flick the switch, no messages appear |
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| 01:06.20 | civillian | would that indicate a dead switch? |
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| 01:12.17 | dondelelcaro | civillian: it doesn't always show up in dmesg |
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| 01:12.41 | dondelelcaro | civillian: the output of rfkill list; will show you what is actually happening |
| 01:14.01 | civillian | dondelelcaro: I've massaged the switch for the thousanth time, and it's enabled the radios. Seems the switch is a bit flakey |
| 01:14.33 | civillian | dondelelcaro: thanks mate :) |
| 01:14.37 | dondelelcaro | civillian: could be... but if you want to know what is happening, rfkill list; will actually tell you. ;-) |
| 01:14.41 | dondelelcaro | civillian: no problem |
| 01:14.45 | devios | gnarface: where could i find the current version of the default vsftpd.conf config file? |
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| 01:15.06 | civillian | rfkill list showed hard disabled and soft disabled before, after reboot it shows enabled on both fronts |
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| 01:15.38 | civillian | I'm just happy I didn't have to pull it apart to fix this :) |
| 01:15.41 | dondelelcaro | civillian: heh |
| 01:16.03 | dondelelcaro | devios: it'll be in the source package for vsftpd |
| 01:17.16 | devios | dondelelcaro: thx - ill look for how to get that |
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| 01:17.41 | dondelelcaro | devios: np; sometimes there is also a copy in /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/ or similar, but that really depends on the package |
| 01:18.10 | dondelelcaro | (some packages provide it, some do not, and some just provide the upstream there without any Debian specific changes... and sometimes it's out of date; YMMV) |
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| 01:18.20 | devios | dondelelcaro: i did a find looking for it on the system - not there |
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| 01:18.49 | dondelelcaro | devios: do you have vsftpd installed and you deleted the configuration file and want it back? |
| 01:19.45 | dondelelcaro | devios: oh, I see it back in scrollback. You should have the new version of the configuration file as /etc/vsftpd.conf.dpkg-new or similar |
| 01:19.54 | dondelelcaro | devios: you can compare them there. |
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| 01:20.01 | devios | dondelelcaro: i don't see it |
| 01:20.07 | devios | dondelelcaro: don't think its there |
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| 01:20.28 | dondelelcaro | well, it'll be there if it's a conffile. If it's not, then it might be in /usr/share/vsftpd or similar |
| 01:20.40 | dondelelcaro | checks |
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| 01:32.17 | gnarface | devios: typically when you keep the existing config file, it will put the new one in the directory with it named something like [config file].dpkg-new or something like that |
| 01:32.30 | gnarface | devios: maybe [config file].dpkg-dist (i forget exactly) |
| 01:32.59 | gnarface | devios: you can get it back by purging the old package completely (apt-get --purge remove [package name]) and the re-installing it and not blowing it away this time. |
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| 01:35.21 | devios | gnarface: good idea |
| 01:35.26 | devios | gnarface: thx |
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| 01:45.01 | zykotick9 | gnarface: sidenote, apt-get accepts purge as a switch now a days, "apt-get purge foo" |
| 01:45.14 | gnarface | really? news to me, thanks |
| 01:45.26 | themill | zykotick9: does that work on already removed packages? |
| 01:45.48 | zykotick9 | themill: i don't think so... but you'd know better them me ;) |
| 01:46.00 | themill | tets |
| 01:46.03 | themill | tests |
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| 01:47.15 | themill | hmm... seems to. That's an improvement. |
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| 02:02.15 | BTCOxygen | debhelper: Hi |
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| 02:16.10 | roboman2444 | oh wow i never realized that about debian |
| 02:16.13 | roboman2444 | err |
| 02:16.14 | roboman2444 | apt |
| 02:16.31 | roboman2444 | concurrent downloads if the packages are from multiple repositories |
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| 02:20.25 | themill | roboman2444: yeah, but it's unusual that the mirror can't saturate your local link anyway so it's not much of an advantage |
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| 02:21.28 | roboman2444 | yea, but it helps a little for some mirrors |
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| 02:35.35 | SunStar | i have a children's CMS that is coppa compliant I am getting ready to launch, would there be any objection to me using the debian logo as the favicon.ico file untill we can get a grapjic artist in to design? |
| 02:36.40 | SunStar | it will be public facing for at least a month before we get an artist and a design |
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| 03:01.01 | gnarface | SunStar: i'm not sure this is the right channel to ask that in, but FYI I believe the debian logo is not open-source. you probably do need written permission, legally. (at least in the US) |
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| 03:02.30 | gnarface | SunStar: the "swirl" part itself actually may be, now that i think of it, but i know for sure i've heard the font they used for the "debian" text is not. |
| 03:02.47 | SunStar | hmm. hadnt thought of that. but now i'm finding this: http://www.debian.org/logos/ |
| 03:03.11 | themill | The logo is LGPLv3+. (but it is also a trademark) |
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| 03:07.25 | Th0masR0ss | What is the restricted logo suppose to be? |
| 03:07.35 | KsM | Anyone on testing, using xfce4-terminal, getting the bug "The program 'xfce4-terminal' received an X Window System error" and all instances of xfce4-terminal crashing when trying to resize it (on a tiling window manager) |
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| 03:08.18 | Th0masR0ss | KsM: its testing, things break. Use #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 03:08.21 | Th0masR0ss | !testing |
| 03:08.22 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <jessie>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <wheezy->jessie> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 03:08.30 | Th0masR0ss | er |
| 03:08.41 | Th0masR0ss | !tell KsM about moving target |
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| 03:11.15 | KsM | meh |
| 03:11.32 | KsM | Now I know my lesson I guess, don't try to switch to testing until after the first year or so |
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| 03:12.45 | Coburn | is there any way of reinstalling the base packages that are isntalled from a net install? |
| 03:12.52 | Coburn | I got a new VPS and this thing is bare |
| 03:13.05 | Coburn | I need to install the base recommended packages, like nano and friends |
| 03:13.29 | Th0masR0ss | Coburn: aptitude install nano? |
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| 03:14.21 | Coburn | Yeah, I could do that, but I also need the other things it installs |
| 03:14.22 | themill | dpkg: tell Coburn about standard task |
| 03:14.44 | Coburn | praises themill |
| 03:14.48 | Coburn | Thanks mate |
| 03:14.55 | themill | np |
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| 03:16.47 | Coburn | damn it |
| 03:16.52 | Coburn | what the hell is this vps doing |
| 03:16.59 | Coburn | it doesn't even have aptitude |
| 03:17.02 | Coburn | O.o |
| 03:17.36 | SunStar | sounds broken |
| 03:17.41 | Th0masR0ss | did you install ubuntu instead of debian? |
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| 03:18.07 | SunStar | i guess they only want yopu installing stuff if you *REALLY* know what ur doing |
| 03:20.00 | themill | Coburn: apt-get install aptitude easily solves that bit |
| 03:20.17 | SunStar | does it at least have dpkg? |
| 03:22.14 | Coburn | yes |
| 03:22.30 | Coburn | now when I did what dpkg said, it wants to pull in the i386 libs too |
| 03:22.36 | Coburn | this is a 64bit debian |
| 03:22.53 | Coburn | Is there a way to stop aptitude from pulling in i386 libs? |
| 03:22.56 | themill | command and full output in a pastebin... |
| 03:23.00 | Coburn | ok |
| 03:23.21 | Th0masR0ss | can you cat /etc/debian_version ? |
| 03:23.38 | Coburn | 7.1 |
| 03:24.07 | themill | The output of "apt-cache policy" would be good to see too |
| 03:24.13 | Coburn | ok moment |
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| 03:29.02 | Coburn | okay, themill, here's aptitude with the flags dpkg told me to do |
| 03:29.04 | Coburn | https://privatepaste.com/8a466d5051 |
| 03:29.09 | Coburn | I'm getting the policy now |
| 03:29.39 | Coburn | https://privatepaste.com/3ed2ed6198 |
| 03:29.41 | Coburn | There we go |
| 03:29.49 | Coburn | looks like the policy one has references to i386 |
| 03:29.52 | Coburn | I should nuke them |
| 03:30.30 | themill | yeah... ~pimportant will match all architectures. You could limit the arch to amd64 there or remove i386 as a foreign arch for the time being |
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| 03:30.49 | Coburn | how do I remove the i386 arch? |
| 03:31.02 | themill | dpkg --remove-architecture |
| 03:31.02 | dpkg | themill: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 03:31.09 | themill | dpkg: shush |
| 03:31.11 | dpkg | Fine, I'll shut up. |
| 03:31.25 | Coburn | ha |
| 03:31.42 | Coburn | dpkg: error: cannot remove architecture 'i386' currently in use by the database |
| 03:31.42 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, Coburn |
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| 03:32.55 | Coburn | dpkg: tell me about arcitecture |
| 03:33.05 | n0c | what's the best way to clone an installed system as far as packages... dpkg --get-selections or apt-mark showmanual |
| 03:33.07 | Coburn | dpkg: tell me about architecture |
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| 03:33.39 | Coburn | okay, so I'm using amd64 |
| 03:33.46 | Coburn | according to dpkg |
| 03:33.48 | themill | Coburn: you've probably got :i386 packages already installed then. aptitude search ~ri386~i |
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| 03:34.21 | Th0masR0ss | !tell Coburn about msg the bot |
| 03:34.22 | Coburn | yep, the whole system looks like it's :i386 |
| 03:34.33 | themill | Coburn: hmm... probably not |
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| 03:35.06 | Coburn | I'll dump the list, hang on |
| 03:35.11 | n0c | what's ~ri? |
| 03:35.13 | themill | try aptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?architecture(foreign))' |
| 03:35.17 | n0c | ~i is installed i know |
| 03:35.18 | apt | You is installed i know? |
| 03:35.24 | Coburn | https://privatepaste.com/64c656876d |
| 03:35.24 | n0c | lol |
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| 03:35.25 | themill | dpkg: tell n0c about aptitude search |
| 03:35.43 | Th0masR0ss | ~i is wat |
| 03:35.43 | apt | You is wat? |
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| 03:35.52 | Th0masR0ss | huh |
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| 03:36.20 | Th0masR0ss | ~dpkg |
| 03:36.20 | apt | methinks dpkg is a bot, or the low-level command to install and manipulate Debian package files (.debs). |
| 03:36.36 | Th0masR0ss | oh it's another factoid bot. |
| 03:36.54 | themill | Coburn: someone seems to have gone to a lot of trouble to enable i386 libraries on that image. |
| 03:37.35 | Coburn | yeah |
| 03:37.59 | Coburn | blame the host. and it's a OpenVZ VPS so I can't just "nuke" and boot from ISO |
| 03:38.01 | Th0masR0ss | apt: be quiet. |
| 03:38.01 | apt | Ah, shuddup. |
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| 03:38.39 | themill | Coburn: did that ?narrow() search turn up a different package set? (I've not explored aptitude search terms carefully in a multiarch environment) |
| 03:38.52 | Coburn | no, it showed the same list |
| 03:39.22 | Enmity | G'Day all, I am trying to do a netinstall on my new Asusu UX31A. The installer can't find my iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode firmware but I can shell and ls /cdrom/iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode. How do inject firmware manually during install? modprobe? |
| 03:39.40 | n0c | so anyone have advice on installing all the same packages? |
| 03:39.59 | n0c | dpkg --get-selections or apt-mark showmanual ? |
| 03:40.00 | dpkg | n0c: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 03:40.05 | themill | Coburn: yeah,... it's odd to be missing standard utilities but have a pile of foreign arch libraries installed |
| 03:40.10 | themill | dpkg: tell n0c about aptitude clone |
| 03:40.41 | Coburn | I thought tldp was 'too long, didn't process' |
| 03:40.44 | Coburn | :P |
| 03:41.09 | Coburn | Hmm.. |
| 03:41.21 | n0c | hm apt-clone |
| 03:41.23 | Coburn | Can I use aptitude to replace the i386 libs with the amd64 ones? |
| 03:41.48 | Coburn | I know when I run the dpkg command that the bot saids, I get a "WARNING: THIS IS 99% LIKELY TO BREAK YOUR SYSTEM!" |
| 03:41.57 | themill | Coburn: I imagine you have both installed. I wouldn't worry about them really... |
| 03:41.57 | Coburn | says* |
| 03:42.00 | themill | Coburn: which command? |
| 03:42.16 | Coburn | aptitude install ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant |
| 03:42.42 | Coburn | ~i is awesome |
| 03:42.42 | apt | You is awesome? |
| 03:42.52 | themill | Coburn: does "aptitude install ~pimportant~rnative" want to do the right thing? |
| 03:43.47 | Coburn | whoa |
| 03:43.54 | Coburn | wants to install 36403 packages |
| 03:44.13 | Coburn | > 0 packages upgraded, 36403 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
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| 03:44.30 | themill | !? |
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| 03:45.06 | Coburn | ah |
| 03:45.12 | Coburn | had a space between the two |
| 03:45.30 | Coburn | ok |
| 03:45.34 | Coburn | it installed |
| 03:45.45 | Coburn | > 0 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 03:46.36 | Th0masR0ss | ~freenode is this network |
| 03:46.36 | apt | ...but freenode is already something else... |
| 03:46.43 | Th0masR0ss | Lol |
| 03:46.45 | themill | Th0masR0ss: you can leave apt alone now |
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| 03:47.08 | Coburn | Enmity: You need to extract the non-free firmware into a folder on a USB stick |
| 03:47.09 | Th0masR0ss | themill: but then I can't install any packages! |
| 03:47.16 | Th0masR0ss | runs |
| 03:47.42 | themill | Coburn: yeah, if the shell splits the whitespace into separate words, it's "or"; if the whitespace isn't split then it's "and". It's a tad annoying. |
| 03:47.47 | Coburn | ~freenode |
| 03:47.48 | apt | http://freenode.net/, or the bomb. where you are, man. |
| 03:47.55 | Coburn | right |
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| 03:48.35 | Coburn | Enmity: if you do it right, you should have a folder on USB or CD that says /firmware/ and lots of debs in there |
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| 03:53.45 | Coburn | uh oh |
| 03:53.46 | Coburn | .init: timeout opening/writing control channel /run/initctl |
| 03:54.08 | Coburn | borken |
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| 03:57.50 | Coburn | nvm, I was able to control-c it and it didn't broke |
| 03:57.52 | Coburn | break* |
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| 04:00.49 | Enmity | going to try a second usb stick with just the file on it |
| 04:00.52 | Enmity | bbiab |
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| 04:16.42 | Coburn | no |
| 04:16.49 | Coburn | he'll just get the same problem |
| 04:16.59 | Coburn | he needs to stick it under /firmware/ on usb stick |
| 04:17.09 | Coburn | I learnt it the hard way :P |
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| 07:45.55 | Kanalia | hi guys, I upgraded apache2 to 2.4 on my debian testing distro yesterday |
| 07:46.26 | Kanalia | since then, all hell broke loose and no website is visible, even though the web server runs |
| 07:46.36 | Kanalia | I enabled all the conf files and defined sites |
| 07:46.44 | Kanalia | still, I only get 404 errors from server |
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| 07:47.31 | Kanalia | I read the message from the package maintainer before the upgrade, but I wasn't prepared for such a disruptive upgrade |
| 07:48.07 | Perdu | Kanalia: What does your /var/log/apache2/*error.log says? |
| 07:48.14 | Kanalia | will check |
| 07:48.26 | Kanalia | honestly forgot about checking with the logs ;) |
| 07:49.26 | babilen | Kanalia: You mean that you installed testing's 2.4 on wheezy or that you simply upgraded your jessie system and apache2 was upgraded to 2.4 ? Yes, the Apache transition is/was huge and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that it breaks certain setups. |
| 07:49.27 | Kanalia | oh, I have there something which wasn't reported to the terminal/prompt |
| 07:49.54 | babilen | Kanalia: Could you paste those log entries to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 07:50.02 | Kanalia | babilen: I forget the names of the current distros, sorry, I have the current testing |
| 07:50.05 | Kanalia | babilen: ok |
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| 07:51.11 | Kanalia | http://paste.debian.net/23138/ |
| 07:51.36 | Kanalia | this AH00094 error/notice doesn't look too good |
| 07:51.42 | babilen | Kanalia: okay, please note that testing/unstable are supported on irc.oftc.net where you'll find quite a number of developers eager to help. (check /topic too :) |
| 07:52.05 | Kanalia | oh, didn't know that this chan was for stable only |
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| 07:52.58 | Kanalia | babilen: any thoughts on the logs I pasted? |
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| 07:54.06 | babilen | Kanalia: The graceful restart is, I think, normal. -- yeah, we try to keep the development branches over in #debian-next. |
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| 07:54.26 | Kanalia | ok |
| 07:54.51 | Kanalia | can't get in there, not authorized |
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| 07:55.09 | mumpitzel | Kanalia: on oftc? |
| 07:55.12 | Kanalia | so I guess I'll try my luck with the guys on oftc.net |
| 07:55.13 | babilen | Kanalia: The channel is on irc.oftc.net with the rest of the official Debian channels, not here on freenode |
| 07:55.33 | Kanalia | ah OK I misunderstood, I thought that you also had a #debian-next chan on freenode |
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| 07:55.45 | Kanalia | ok, going over there, thanks guys |
| 07:56.04 | babilen | Kanalia: We would also have to know what "all hell breaks loose" actually means. :) |
| 07:56.08 | babilen | but see you there |
| 07:56.38 | Kanalia | I told you, even the default / location gets a 404 |
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| 07:58.44 | Perdu | Maybe some link is broken? |
| 07:59.14 | Perdu | Is your DocumentRoot folder still fine? |
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| 08:00.37 | Kanalia | Perdu: it might be the case |
| 08:00.46 | Kanalia | yes, it's pointed by default at /var/www |
| 08:00.51 | Kanalia | and all's still there |
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| 08:02.04 | Perdu | Kanalia: What about file permissions? Everything is still readable? |
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| 08:12.55 | Kanalia | Perdu: yes, I've moved on to the different channel as per babilen's suggestions |
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| 08:35.18 | nkuttler | ,v openjdk-6-jre-headless |
| 08:35.19 | judd | Package: openjdk-6-jre-headless on i386 -- squeeze: 6b18-1.8.13-0+squeeze2; wheezy: 6b27-1.12.5-1; jessie: 6b27-1.12.5-2; squeeze-security: 6b27-1.12.6-1~deb6u1; wheezy-security: 6b27-1.12.6-1~deb7u1; sid: 6b27-1.12.6-1 |
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| 08:36.26 | nkuttler | oddly enough i'm to perform a dist-upgrade from squeeze to squeeze-security to install the new packages icedtea-6-jre-cacao libpcsclite1 |
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| 08:39.31 | nkuttler | ah, aptitude safe-upgrade only wants to install the lib.. still.. |
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| 08:47.03 | dokma | is it possible to put grub just in MBR and dual boot WinXP/Windows 7 that way? |
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| 08:47.17 | dokma | or does grub need more stuff in the filesystem ? |
| 08:47.56 | rozie | you need /boot |
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| 08:48.24 | dokma | so I would need one partition for the grub stuff |
| 08:48.29 | dokma | does it have to be primary? |
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| 08:48.54 | rozie | AFAIR not, but check pls |
| 08:49.31 | dokma | ok, thank you |
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| 08:49.56 | rozie | http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition/requirements.html |
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| 08:50.16 | rozie | Your boot partition ought to be a primary partition, not a logical partition. This will ease recovery in case of disaster, but it is not technically necessary. |
| 08:50.38 | dokma | ahhh... thanks a bunch |
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| 09:03.12 | txomon|fon | btw, In my opinion debian with gnome-shell should have ntp installed but disabled by default |
| 09:03.49 | txomon|fon | it is horrible not to have the time synced when you activate that you want to check it with internet... |
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| 09:09.54 | dokma | what a perverted satisfaction :) my gurl has Win7 but need WinXP so I decided to stick in GRUB to have at least something of Linux on the machine |
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| 09:10.01 | dokma | kmehehehe |
| 09:10.16 | Kingsy | I have just done --> adduser youtrack --disabled-password <-- how do I now login as that use? su youtrack asks for a password??? |
| 09:10.25 | Kingsy | user* |
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| 09:10.29 | dokma | su |
| 09:10.31 | txomon|fon | Kingsy: you cant |
| 09:10.31 | dokma | su youtrack |
| 09:10.34 | txomon|fon | sudo su |
| 09:10.38 | txomon|fon | and su username |
| 09:10.44 | txomon|fon | su wont work |
| 09:10.47 | Kingsy | eh? |
| 09:11.00 | dokma | Kingsy, you need to first become root |
| 09:11.01 | Kingsy | sudo su username ? |
| 09:11.03 | Kingsy | oh ok |
| 09:11.04 | dokma | then you can become any user |
| 09:11.08 | Kingsy | got ya |
| 09:11.09 | txomon|fon | that is it |
| 09:11.12 | dokma | if shell is not specified then |
| 09:11.16 | dokma | su user -s /bin/bash |
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| 09:11.27 | txomon|fon | na, he has it, he used adduser |
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| 09:11.52 | dokma | yes, you're right |
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| 09:37.40 | aoei | Hi. I noticed my system wants iwlwifi-135-5.ucode and iwlwifi-135-6.ucode, a quick google found a bunch of OTHER versions of that wifi firmware, but not the ones I want. What should I do? |
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| 09:38.32 | gnarface | aoei: install the package that owns that file, probably |
| 09:39.08 | aoei | That's probably a good idea. How do I search for 'what package owns ¤file?' |
| 09:39.46 | gnarface | apt-file update && apt-file search [filename] |
| 09:39.52 | aoei | OK |
| 09:39.53 | gnarface | (you may have to install apt-file first) |
| 09:40.13 | gnarface | unfortunately that won't work for files that are generated BY the package during install |
| 09:40.22 | gnarface | only files included in the package itself |
| 09:40.22 | aoei | right |
| 09:41.00 | aoei | do I need to add a non-free repository or something, the firmware is probably closed source and all that |
| 09:41.08 | gnarface | ah, yes you do |
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| 09:41.21 | aoei | k let me see... |
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| 09:41.51 | gnarface | ask the dpkg bot in this channel about non-free and sources.list if you need help |
| 09:42.04 | aoei | OK |
| 09:42.31 | gnarface | it might be better to figure out what device wants that firmware and just search for the firmware package by device name |
| 09:43.54 | aoei | Ha! The firmware is obviously gonna be on the CD that shipped with my laptop. I ordered a custom one with one SSD, and an HDD in the CD/DVD drive caddy. The laptop has no optical drive so I can't easily get the firmware from the CD. |
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| 09:44.57 | aoei | Well it's for the laptop's wifi |
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| 09:45.06 | aoei | I guess lspci for it? |
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| 09:48.18 | it | у меня тоже дебиан! |
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| 09:51.20 | Clark05 | where I connect to a port on the client, and it forwards it via socks |
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| 09:54.14 | aoei | Ah OK I found the thing I need. Yay. |
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| 09:59.56 | z3l | Hello. What is the easiest way to share files ? I would like to have one computer to stay as the server and another one to have access to some web files. |
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| 10:00.26 | bhuddah | z3l: nfs |
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| 10:00.48 | z3l | bhuddah: Thank you. |
| 10:00.53 | bhuddah | np |
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| 10:01.12 | ido2 | owncloud :) |
| 10:01.21 | z3l | owncloud ? |
| 10:01.48 | ido2 | www.owncloud.org :) |
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| 10:01.57 | bhuddah | thats way more complicated |
| 10:02.16 | z3l | What does it offer nfs doesn't ? |
| 10:02.18 | bhuddah | but sure. there are lots of other ways for other scenarios |
| 10:02.28 | bhuddah | a lot |
| 10:02.34 | bhuddah | like all the features ;) |
| 10:02.35 | ido2 | a nice gui, access files from every computer, smartphone |
| 10:02.38 | babilen | z3l: What do you mean by "web files" ? |
| 10:02.57 | babilen | z3l: Do you simply want to be able to open a webpage in your browser and download some files there? |
| 10:03.38 | z3l | babilen: Simply files used for web development (php, css, js). What I want to achieve - is to have apache2 with mysql and other things installed on my machine. And be able to upload files to appropriate folders from my netbook. Machines are connected to the same router. |
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| 10:04.18 | bhuddah | z3l: in a developement context i would suggest using a version control system for that |
| 10:04.27 | z3l | bhuddah: Like git? |
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| 10:04.39 | bhuddah | z3l: yep. cvs git hg.. whatever suits you |
| 10:04.42 | FilipeMaia | Hi. I have a machine with kernel 2.6.18. When I try to apt-get upgrade I get the following error: WARNING: this version of the GNU libc requires kernel version |
| 10:04.43 | FilipeMaia | 2.6.26 or later. Please upgrade your kernel before installing |
| 10:04.44 | FilipeMaia | glibc. What can I do? |
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| 10:04.49 | babilen | z3l: You can "upload" them easily via SSH and then host them on your webserver or use a local repository checkout. Other solutions include deployment tools. |
| 10:05.32 | z3l | babilen: So I should create a repository on my server and connect to it from my netbook. |
| 10:05.39 | babilen | z3l: Fabric would be an example, but then you might just make the leap to ansible. |
| 10:05.52 | bhuddah | z3l: that would be the idea |
| 10:05.58 | z3l | One more thing - after I (checkout?) , I'd like the files to be automatically visible on apache2, is it possible? |
| 10:06.21 | babilen | z3l: It doesn't matter where you host the repository, the idea is that you have local checkouts on both the client and the server. |
| 10:06.40 | z3l | I see, thank you. |
| 10:07.06 | z3l | But the repository will in a different directory than directory the alias is created for, right? |
| 10:07.14 | z3l | will be in* |
| 10:07.21 | bhuddah | z3l: some of this systems support triggers. so that you can start actions when somebody uploads anything |
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| 10:07.37 | z3l | bhuddah: Does git support triggers? |
| 10:07.50 | babilen | it does |
| 10:08.04 | z3l | Ok, so I will setup this. Thank's for the help, the rest I will find on google. |
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| 10:08.32 | bhuddah | z3l: i don't know much about git or the triggers. you need to read the docs |
| 10:08.40 | z3l | I will. |
| 10:09.02 | z3l | By the way, has anyone of you used vim ? |
| 10:09.06 | drunkez | :) |
| 10:09.27 | bhuddah | you are joking, right? |
| 10:09.34 | babilen | z3l: There are tools such as the aforementioned Ansible or Fabric (http://www.ansibleworks.com/ or http://docs.fabfile.org/en/1.7/) that easy such things .. there are also plenty of language specific ways to handle to this. If you were, for example, deploying an application written in python and flask I would recommend to ask in #python too for recommendations. |
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| 10:10.10 | z3l | bhuddah: That was not an irony. I have just started my adventure with "linux stuff" |
| 10:10.22 | bhuddah | z3l: okay :) vim is great. learn it. |
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| 10:10.32 | babilen | z3l: I mean the best way to setup this depends on a lot of factors and you would be well advised to write to various mailing lists to gather "best practices". Pick those communities that have something to do with your tooling ... |
| 10:10.49 | smone | hi everyone i just bought a new laptop with a rt8192cu wifi device, and i have bad connection just close to the ap i can get a good connection, is there some reported problem with the linux driver? |
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| 10:11.18 | z3l | Ty. |
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| 10:11.40 | w1ck3dg0ph3r | FilipeMaia: upgrade kernel? |
| 10:11.56 | babilen | z3l: If you want to learn vim use a sensible configuration default (that is: https://github.com/tpope/vim-sensible) and then run "vimtutor" - I would also recommend to watch Derek's videos at http://www.derekwyatt.org/vim/vim-tutorial-videos/ -- If you want to discuss this further come and join #vim |
| 10:12.17 | FilipeMaia | w1ck3dg0ph3r: i get the following error: libc6: Depends: libc-bin (= 2.11.2-10) but 2.13-38 is to be installed |
| 10:12.21 | babilen | dpkg: tell z3l about overview |
| 10:12.29 | babilen | dpkg: tell z3l about general cli tutorial |
| 10:12.33 | babilen | dpkg: tell z3l about handbook |
| 10:12.43 | g0dfrey | Is there a simple way to control the health light on disks? |
| 10:13.11 | z3l | Huh, a lot of information for now. Gonna bookmark these pages. |
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| 10:13.59 | w1ck3dg0ph3r | FilipeMaia: during apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r`? |
| 10:14.07 | babilen | z3l: Err, the first should have been <introduction> or <grounding> not <overview> ... sorry for the bot-spam. All those tutorials and books are great. |
| 10:14.10 | FilipeMaia | w1ck3dg0ph3r: yes |
| 10:14.31 | FilipeMaia | w1ck3dg0ph3r: uname -r would give the same version |
| 10:14.44 | FilipeMaia | w1ck3dg0ph3r: during apt-get install linux-imagge-686 |
| 10:15.04 | FilipeMaia | w1ck3dg0ph3r: inux-image-686 |
| 10:15.05 | babilen | z3l: Well, I thought it is good to start with a number of good references. The Debian Handbook is definitely worth it. http://git-scm.com/book is a wonderful book on vim. |
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| 10:15.19 | babilen | dpkg: tell FilipeMaia -about bat |
| 10:15.39 | z3l | babilen: babilen: It's a book about git :) |
| 10:15.41 | z3l | but thanks |
| 10:15.53 | babilen | err, yes .. that's what I meant m( |
| 10:16.02 | babilen | hehe |
| 10:16.05 | FilipeMaia | babilen w1ck3dg0ph3r http://paste.debian.net/23169/ |
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| 10:16.42 | z3l | babilen: A lot of stuff to do now, gonna think. First of all I need to properly setup git there and make a connection with my netbook. |
| 10:16.49 | FilipeMaia | babilen w1ck3dg0ph3r http://paste.debian.net/23170/ |
| 10:16.54 | babilen | FilipeMaia: Please read the factoid the bot sent you again and paste your sources.list and apt-cache policy output (alone and for the packages in question). Include "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l libc6 apt dpkg" too please. |
| 10:17.02 | z3l | Then I will start learning vim (since the netbook lacks a mouse and I do not like touchpad) |
| 10:17.27 | babilen | z3l: Sounds like a plan. |
| 10:18.09 | FilipeMaia | babilen w1ck3dg0ph3r http://paste.debian.net/23171/ |
| 10:18.16 | z3l | Hope I do not have to use any visual stuff anymore at school. |
| 10:18.28 | z3l | Cause I have completely removed windows in my netbook :) |
| 10:18.38 | babilen | z3l: I'd recommend accessing the bare repository (that you checkout on both the server and the client) simply via SSH from the client and not to use tools such as gitolite yet. |
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| 10:18.53 | z3l | babilen: That's what I thought about. |
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| 10:19.18 | ChrisH | z3l: if you need M$ Stuff install Windows there where its save, inside a VM like virtualbox |
| 10:19.19 | FilipeMaia | babilen w1ck3dg0ph3r last one http://paste.debian.net/23172/ |
| 10:19.20 | babilen | FilipeMaia: Okay, please *do not* upgrade or install *anything* on that box. |
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| 10:19.34 | FilipeMaia | babilen: ok, should i do? |
| 10:19.59 | z3l | ChrisH: I have left 100GB for w7 on another computer. My netbook contains only 60gb of disk space, so windows is not worth it. |
| 10:20.00 | FilipeMaia | babilen: i meant, what should i do? |
| 10:20.22 | babilen | FilipeMaia: I don't know yet as I need more information. Could you also paste your /var/log/apt/history.log ? |
| 10:20.29 | FilipeMaia | babilen: sure |
| 10:20.48 | FilipeMaia | babilen: no such file or directory |
| 10:20.59 | babilen | Ah, okay. |
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| 10:22.56 | babilen | FilipeMaia: Okay, the situation on your box is this: It is a lenny system which is the two releases behind our current stable release. You do, however, use "stable" in your sources.list and not the name "lenny" so that you try to install packages from the current stable release which is wheezy. You do have to upgrade that system *immediately* to at least squeeze, but you should then continue upgrading it to wheezy.. |
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| 10:23.51 | babilen | FilipeMaia: Wait, which kernel do you have on that system? |
| 10:23.56 | FilipeMaia | babilen: 2.6.18 |
| 10:24.00 | babilen | .18 ? |
| 10:24.01 | babilen | wow |
| 10:24.13 | babilen | FilipeMaia: Okay, what does "cat /etc/debian_version" give you? |
| 10:24.24 | drunkez | wow as it`s bilion years old kernel or wow as .18 on such system?:) |
| 10:24.24 | FilipeMaia | babilen: 6.0 |
| 10:24.34 | babilen | drunkez: The former |
| 10:24.46 | babilen | FilipeMaia: What a clusterfuck of a machine. |
| 10:24.53 | FilipeMaia | babilen: :) |
| 10:25.12 | drunkez | maybe partial upgrade in past |
| 10:25.13 | drunkez | or what |
| 10:25.17 | FilipeMaia | babilen: so the problem was using stable on the sources without doing proper upgrades when new versions were launched? |
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| 10:26.06 | babilen | drunkez: yeah, absolutely. It must be a mixture of lenny (if not etch), squeeze and (hopefully not) wheezy. |
| 10:26.27 | FilipeMaia | babilen: it might have started on etch |
| 10:26.28 | babilen | FilipeMaia: Exactly - You should always use the actual release names in your sources.list |
| 10:26.29 | drunkez | i would go squeeze this time |
| 10:26.39 | drunkez | do a full update/upgrade |
| 10:26.43 | drunkez | and then we will see |
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| 10:27.30 | FilipeMaia | babilen: ok, lesson learned. I thought i was being smart by using stable such that i wouldn't have to change the sources when new versions came |
| 10:28.11 | babilen | FilipeMaia: Okay, the right way to deal with this is to upgrade the system in steps. As it appears to be (at least partially) an etch system you should upgrade it completely to lenny first. You would then continue to upgrade it to squeeze and wheezy respectively. The older releases are so old that you won't find them on the regular mirrors but on the archive and the upgrade procedure between releases is discussed in the release notes of the ... |
| 10:28.17 | babilen | ... release you want to upgrade to. |
| 10:28.49 | babilen | FilipeMaia: This entire process is a lot of work and you might just want to install a new wheezy system from scratch and migrate your data and services. |
| 10:29.00 | babilen | dpkg: tell FilipeMaia -about lenny sources.list |
| 10:29.01 | txomon|fon | what do you thing about ntp being installed together with gnome but disabled? |
| 10:29.07 | FilipeMaia | babilen: yes we're considering to retire the machine |
| 10:29.07 | babilen | dpkg: tell FilipeMaia -about lenny release notes |
| 10:29.33 | FilipeMaia | babilen: many thanks for all the help |
| 10:30.14 | babilen | FilipeMaia: Ask the bot about <squeeze sources.list> and <squeeze release notes> for the upgrade from lenny to squeeze (once you managed the upgrade to lenny) and then <wheezy sources.list> and <wheezy release notes> for the upgrade to wheezy. |
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| 10:30.46 | FilipeMaia | babilen: will do! |
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| 10:31.02 | francesc2 | Hello. |
| 10:31.06 | babilen | That is if you want to go the upgrade route. You do have to *at least* upgrade the system to squeeze immediately (or get it off the net) as the software you are running hasn't received any security support in *ages* |
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| 10:31.36 | FilipeMaia | babilen: that was my initial reason for trying to upgrade the php version, which led to this |
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| 10:31.59 | babilen | FilipeMaia: And yes you may quote my "What a clusterfuck of a machine." to colleagues if you want to convince them that retiring it is a good idea ;) |
| 10:32.08 | FilipeMaia | babilen: :D thanks |
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| 10:32.58 | FilipeMaia | babilen: we are already almost completely transitioned to a new machine but some people still use it, that's why it's not turned off |
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| 11:08.00 | redintellect | what to change to start some commands at startup? |
| 11:08.38 | redintellect | rc local? |
| 11:08.42 | redintellect | rc0.d? |
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| 11:10.04 | w1ck3dg0ph3r | redintellect: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28 |
| 11:10.32 | mjt | actually rc.local might be the best option for many things |
| 11:10.33 | redintellect | w1ck3dg0ph3r, thanks ;) |
| 11:10.40 | mjt | /etc/rc.local that is |
| 11:11.19 | redintellect | mjt thanks ;) |
| 11:11.39 | mjt | especially since that article is outdated wrt insserv |
| 11:12.51 | FilipeMaia | babilen: actually the initial release installed on the machine was sarge not etch |
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| 11:28.08 | colo-work | does ucarp in wheezy support IPv6? |
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| 11:41.18 | redintellect | apt-get cannot connect to any server any ideas? |
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| 11:41.30 | redintellect | apt-get update doesn't work |
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| 11:41.48 | babilen | redintellect: Show us ... Paste your sources.list and the apt-get update output to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 11:47.38 | redintellect | babilen, the connection seems to be unstable :O |
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| 11:48.39 | redintellect | babilen, thanks the problem is not sources or aptitude ;) |
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| 11:51.16 | babilen | redintellect: I really can't help you without further information. If you solved your problem yourself: Yay! If not: Provide more information. |
| 11:52.03 | redintellect | babilen, right now the network is doing good, I'm trying to find something that triggers the socket mess up. |
| 11:52.41 | Nothing4You | hi there, i just noticed some odd thing while trying to `apt-get upgrade` |
| 11:52.49 | redintellect | babilen, it got better after a reboot, but in the previous boot it worked perfect until something happened and I'm trying to find that something if i had any luck I ask you thanks ;) |
| 11:52.56 | Nothing4You | i have one package listed there that is mentioned as held back |
| 11:53.10 | Nothing4You | neither does upgrade nor dist-upgrade install it |
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| 11:54.37 | mumpitzel | Nothing4You: apt-get install <package> |
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| 11:56.41 | musca | mumpitzel: apt-get install <secretpackage> |
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| 11:58.34 | redintellect | is it a good idea to use three sources in sources.list or no? |
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| 12:00.22 | SirLagz | redintellect, sure. No harm as long as they're all the same version. |
| 12:01.12 | redintellect | SirLagz, thanks ;) |
| 12:01.25 | Nothing4You | my question is rather why thit happens, not how to fix it |
| 12:01.56 | SirLagz | Nothing4You, maybe one got pinned |
| 12:02.00 | SirLagz | or dpkg was told to hold it |
| 12:02.32 | Nothing4You | k |
| 12:03.31 | babilen | redintellect: You could use a metamirror such as http.debian.net to have it automagically pick the "best" mirror for you. |
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| 12:03.48 | babilen | dpkg: ktell Nothing4You -about bat |
| 12:03.49 | dpkg | babilen: i don't know |
| 12:03.55 | babilen | dpkg: tell Nothing4You -about bat |
| 12:04.16 | redintellect | babilen, that didn't work well last time :)) |
| 12:04.24 | redintellect | babilen, the dpkg bot is trolling you :))) |
| 12:04.38 | drunkez | http://www.tomatobubble.com/putin_obama.html |
| 12:04.39 | drunkez | mega |
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| 12:05.15 | babilen | drunkez: Please do not spam the channel |
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| 12:07.47 | Nothing4You | `apt-cache policy libsnmp-base`: http://ix.io/75q |
| 12:08.22 | Nothing4You | `apt-cache policy`: http://ix.io/75r |
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| 12:10.14 | babilen | wtf |
| 12:10.37 | Nothing4You | ? |
| 12:11.16 | babilen | Interesting mix -- First and foremost: testing/unstable setups are supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and you include some third party repositories in there that we cannot support. |
| 12:11.40 | babilen | I also don't understand why you use them as owncloud has been packaged by Debian already. |
| 12:11.46 | babilen | judd: v owncloud |
| 12:11.47 | judd | Package: owncloud on i386 -- jessie: 5.0.9+dfsg-2; sid: 5.0.9+dfsg-2 |
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| 12:12.43 | Nothing4You | that shouldn't be related to my problem though |
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| 12:13.27 | babilen | Nothing4You: I also don't see the actual output with the held packages you refer to so you might want to paste that too and discuss it in #debian-next. Also: As you are running a testing/unstable mix you really don't need stable sources anymore, but you should upgrade completely to testing and leave it at that. |
| 12:14.12 | Nothing4You | i'm running on testing, i just enabled the stable sources to see infos about the stable stuff in it |
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| 12:14.41 | Nothing4You | anyway, i'll head over to oftc then |
| 12:15.04 | babilen | Nothing4You: The inclusion of PPAs and other third-party repositories also renders your system quite unsupportable by us, but then I would recommend to clean up your sources as indicated above (remove owncloud + stable) ... But we still have to see actual output of commands you have problems with. Yes, lets continue this on OFTC. |
| 12:15.16 | babilen | is off to lunch though |
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| 12:19.20 | babilen | Nothing4You: fwiw, that newsreader (SABnzbd) has also been packaged for Debian. If you want us to support your system use Debian packages please and remove those third-party repositories and their packages from your system. They target Ubuntu and we cannot support that setup. |
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| 12:25.01 | ZIPY | hey, i had to add load-module module-udev-detect tsched=0 to my /etc/pulse/default.pa to fix my scratchy sound.. my sound is fine now but somehow pulseaudio istn running anymore. even when i look in audiomanager, there is no hardware listet anymore. when i try to start pulseaudio --start, it says E: main.c: daemon startup failed. |
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| 12:58.19 | james41382 | Do I need to download and install the .deb from the dropbox website or can I just install nautilus-dropbox from the wheezy repo? I am thinking I need to do both. Has anyone here setup Dropbox on their computer? |
| 12:58.43 | SirLagz | either one |
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| 12:59.37 | mrtnt | Is there a way to check if certain IP range(for example /22) is blocked by e-mail spam filters? I know one can check by one address at a time using for example http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml, but is there a way to check for whole range? |
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| 13:01.16 | james41382 | When you install nautilus-dropbox it downloads the dropbox installer as well. Nice.. |
| 13:01.37 | bhuddah | mrtnt: i think it's supposed to block that |
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| 13:02.35 | Twinkletoes | I've just installed phpmyadmin using apt, but I don't see how to start getting it configured. There's no mention of phpmyadmin in /etc/apache2/* |
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| 13:03.49 | bhuddah | Twinkletoes: maybe that: http://asteriskopensourcev2.blogspot.de/2011/06/how-to-install-phpmyadmin-on-debian-6.html |
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| 13:04.27 | Twinkletoes | bhuddah: Ah, thank you - I was looking at this - which isn't right, obviously: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/phpmyadmin.htm |
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| 13:05.15 | bhuddah | Twinkletoes: np. sometimes we all hit a blind spot ^^ |
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| 13:05.37 | Twinkletoes | bhuddah: Having said that, /etc/phpmyadmin doesn't exist either |
| 13:05.44 | bhuddah | *lol*? |
| 13:05.47 | Twinkletoes | bhuddah: Eveb thougnh it's installed |
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| 13:05.56 | bhuddah | maybe it's somewhere else now |
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| 13:06.12 | themill | Did you remove it? |
| 13:06.21 | Twinkletoes | themill: Just removed it to install it again |
| 13:06.33 | Twinkletoes | themill: I've never used it so it was nerver installe d- I only jsut triued |
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| 13:07.18 | Twinkletoes | Think I sussed it - I needed to do an upgrade before it works - now it's askign me questions about configuring when I install it |
| 13:07.27 | bhuddah | great :) |
| 13:07.34 | bhuddah | progress! |
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| 13:08.13 | Twinkletoes | Works now - woohoo! |
| 13:08.15 | Twinkletoes | THank tou :) |
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| 13:08.47 | lancedevnull | hi |
| 13:09.22 | smone | hi everyone i am having problems with a rt8188CU (detected and working as RT8192) wifi card, it is working but i think the range i get compared with the windows driver is much smaller is there options i can provide to the card to make it work better in linux? |
| 13:12.01 | ChrisH | smone: Iassume you know https://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x and checked that already |
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| 13:14.00 | smone | yes |
| 13:14.12 | smone | i am right now using the card |
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| 13:14.59 | smone | the question is the range i have with the card is much smaller |
| 13:15.35 | smone | comparing with the windows driver behavior |
| 13:16.25 | smone | i mean if i am more than 10 meters away from the AP the windows driver works perfectly, the linux driver does not it finds the ap connects and then disconnects with this message |
| 13:16.33 | jelly | ,i apt-forktracer |
| 13:16.34 | judd | Package apt-forktracer (admin, optional) in wheezy/i386: a utility for tracking non-official package versions. Version: 0.4; Size: 23.3k; Installed: 119k |
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| 13:18.24 | smone | wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:xxx..... by local choice (reason=3) |
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| 13:45.45 | Twinkletoes | I changed the MysQL root password to somethign which is longer, and now phpmyadmin won't let me login as root. I've run through dpkg-reconfigure, but it makes no difference. |
| 13:45.56 | Twinkletoes | Do I need to change anything else perhaps? |
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| 13:46.58 | Sabbie | Twinkletoes: do you have ssh access? |
| 13:46.58 | ledestin | Twinkletoes: if you can login via mysql(1), it must be a problem in myphpadmin |
| 13:47.08 | Twinkletoes | Sabbie: Yes |
| 13:47.15 | Twinkletoes | ledestin: Yes, I can use the mysql command ok |
| 13:47.43 | ledestin | Twinkletoes: have no idea then. look at the source for myphpadmin perhaps |
| 13:47.49 | Twinkletoes | One sec... it seems to be a cache problem in my browser |
| 13:47.54 | Twinkletoes | I tried a different browser and it now works |
| 13:47.56 | Twinkletoes | *sigh* |
| 13:47.57 | Sabbie | :') |
| 13:48.04 | Sabbie | chrome cache ftw |
| 13:48.54 | Twinkletoes | Firefox :) |
| 13:49.24 | Twinkletoes | Haha - CTRL+F5 has now sorted that - thanks :) |
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| 13:51.50 | ZIPY | hey i got a dualboot debian and windows, however i synced the hwclock and the systemclock in debian but windows always sets it back to the wrong time ... |
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| 13:52.20 | bhuddah | ZIPY: set the hwclock timezone to the same as windows. |
| 13:52.42 | ZIPY | and then only modify the systime for debian? |
| 13:52.59 | bhuddah | no. make sure that it matches. then everything works. |
| 13:53.18 | bhuddah | and: use google. you can't expect that you are the first to ever run into that sort of problem :D |
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| 14:13.47 | caraconan | Hi there. I have a working SSH + LDAP environment. The only issue is that looks like group lookups are not yet working: http://paste.debian.net/23225/ . Any help will be appreciated. Thanks |
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| 14:19.51 | akurczyk | Marqin: co mecz? |
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| 14:20.45 | Marqin | akurczyk: hi |
| 14:20.52 | akurczyk | hi Marqin :) |
| 14:20.59 | Marqin | akurczyk: i don't understand your language, speak english |
| 14:20.59 | akurczyk | so, what is mecz? |
| 14:21.05 | akurczyk | Marqin: u do |
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| 14:23.14 | akurczyk | what is the name of polish language pack pkg? |
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| 14:24.32 | ZIPY | akurczyk: for what application? |
| 14:24.35 | mumpitzel | akurczyk: install task-polish and polish-desktop |
| 14:25.45 | akurczyk | for console only |
| 14:25.45 | mumpitzel | task-polish then |
| 14:25.45 | mumpitzel | !tell akurczyk about locales |
| 14:25.45 | akurczyk | ok thx |
| 14:25.45 | Marqin | dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 14:25.45 | Marqin | select pl and then reboot |
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| 14:27.43 | akurczyk | Marqin: thx :) |
| 14:28.23 | guard163 | hi all! |
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| 14:29.06 | jargon | hi |
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| 14:29.37 | Marqin | akurczyk: working now? |
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| 14:29.40 | guard163 | How can I specify the path for the package installed by checkinstall? |
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| 14:30.11 | akurczyk | Marqin: dont know its not mine vps :D |
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| 14:31.03 | Marqin | akurczyk: lol |
| 14:31.09 | Marqin | akurczyk: so get that guy here |
| 14:32.10 | akurczyk | Marqin: he's offline right now :( :D |
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| 14:34.02 | caraconan | The fix: replace then 'base ou=people,dc=jamgo,dc=org' by 'base dc=jamgo,dc=org' |
| 14:34.29 | jelly | groups are not people? |
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| 14:39.52 | caraconan | jelly: I guess this is a workaround, I need to improve this solution, I guess moving my groups to another place in the LDAP tree |
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| 14:43.25 | jelly | mind you, I'm not saying this is wrong or bad |
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| 14:47.10 | caraconan | jelly: Improved (I think) specifying one base path per each service (passwd and group) |
| 14:48.37 | jelly | I guess that makes more sense from a query optimization point |
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| 15:06.37 | hayuto | can disk caching to ram slow down my system? |
| 15:06.52 | hayuto | cause my friend tell it gros a lot and there is no ram left |
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| 15:07.08 | hayuto | grows* |
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| 15:08.06 | ksk | !linuxatemyram |
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| 15:08.09 | ksk | aww |
| 15:08.25 | ksk | hayuto: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 15:08.42 | hayuto | i know this |
| 15:08.43 | ksk | read that please and do ask again if theres any question left |
| 15:08.44 | esaym153 | anyone know a way to figure out what process it writting csv files into a directory? I tried looping lsof with while true;do lsof| |
| 15:08.52 | ksk | so why the ... you ask that question? :> |
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| 15:09.02 | hayuto | im asking if it can slow down application cause its buggy or something |
| 15:09.06 | esaym153 | but lsof still didn't see anything, the files are being written and closed too fast... |
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| 15:10.04 | hayuto | cause we have nodeirc running on server and when ram is used 95% with cache it starts to be very slow |
| 15:10.37 | ksk | used or chached? what now? :P |
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| 15:14.30 | Elirips | Hello. I'm just wondering: Atm we use windows with VMWare for virtualization. Are there open source solutions (Xen?) that provide the same features, especially load-balancing between different physical hosts and moving of virtual machines from one host to the other without interruption? |
| 15:15.05 | ksk | not to "buy and be happy" i guess ;) |
| 15:15.10 | koollman | Elirips: there are. but after various tests on various platforms, we decided to keep using vmware |
| 15:15.31 | Elirips | ksk: not to aptitude install ? ;) |
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| 15:16.38 | Elirips | koollman: are there any debian specific tutorials, howtos, readings? I'm missing the keywords for google, I only find article that dont contain much info |
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| 15:20.16 | koollman | Elirips: cluster and virtualization would be two main keywords. The only things we found for the load-balancing part were pretty much 'non-standard' scripts bolted on existing cluster virts. there are some things on xenserver, but ... well, we still preferred vmware. |
| 15:20.59 | koollman | Elirips: a promising thing would be ganeti, but it wasn't up to the task when we tried it (htools being the very interesting loadbalancing part) |
| 15:21.13 | Elirips | koollman: thank you. I see. We just need to renew a bunch of vmware licenses, so I was wondering what else is out there. |
| 15:21.32 | Elirips | koollman: maybe I can get credit to do some testing on some older servers, who knows. |
| 15:22.36 | koollman | Elirips: we used proxmox (v2, not v3) with some homemade balancing scripts on top of it. it was decent. And you can probably find similar loadbalancing scripts on the internet |
| 15:23.12 | koollman | we still have a platform running that way now, but with much less vm on it, and no autobalancing (but the high-availability part does work, which is nice) |
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| 15:24.20 | Elirips | koollman: thanks. I need to do some reading now I guess :) |
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| 15:24.45 | koollman | sure. but ... well, vmware costs a bit, but they still have a lot of advantages |
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| 15:25.11 | koollman | I guess now I could make my own cluster that would have some useful features missing from vmware. but it would take me a lot of time |
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| 15:25.27 | Elirips | yes of course its all working fine. It would just be "fun" to try something else |
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| 15:26.00 | koollman | things like Ceph for storage are very interesting |
| 15:26.01 | Elirips | and as we replace some servers soon, I'll try to get the old ones as test machines |
| 15:26.33 | koollman | and a feature hard to get on vmware. any offer for clustered high performance storage is .. err ... very expensive :) |
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| 15:27.03 | max192mb | has anyone here running wheezy managed to install mondorescue using debs (NOT source)? |
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| 15:27.46 | Elirips | koollman: the storage we have is from hitachi, no idea how these would work with linux but it should somehow |
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| 15:28.53 | koollman | Elirips: we build our own storage servers. What does your storage exports ? iscsi ? fc ? something else ? |
| 15:29.22 | Elirips | fc |
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| 15:36.46 | mischief | hi |
| 15:36.55 | unkmar | I don't know if I should consider my current headache wheezy's fault or php. |
| 15:37.01 | mischief | can someone tell me why wget does not trust the cert of my domain but firefox does? |
| 15:37.04 | max192mb | some dependencies can not be satisfied, afio being the main one. there is no afio for wheeze! |
| 15:37.09 | mischief | https://offblast.org/ is the domain |
| 15:37.11 | max192mb | some dependencies can not be satisfied, afio being the main one. there is no afio for wheezy! |
| 15:37.13 | unkmar | probably php. |
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| 15:39.09 | Elirips | mischief: lol, how did you do that with the "rotated" content? |
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| 15:40.43 | mischief | uh |
| 15:40.44 | unkmar | great |
| 15:40.48 | mischief | rotate(-1deg); |
| 15:40.52 | Sabbie | mischief, you're not giving your intermediate certificates in the certificate |
| 15:41.07 | Sabbie | I'm guessing wget doesn't have access to them, while they are built into firefox |
| 15:41.08 | mischief | what |
| 15:41.16 | mischief | oh.. |
| 15:41.18 | Elirips | mischief: ah. thank you. I never tried to roate a "whole page", only single images. :) |
| 15:41.28 | mischief | so i messed up the server cert? |
| 15:41.29 | unkmar | so, um, How do I install an OLDER version of php5 ? 5.3 !! because, as far as I'm concernted php v5.4 is broken. |
| 15:41.51 | Sabbie | you can combine the certificates to include the root certificates |
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| 15:42.47 | unkmar | so, this is what has me broken. http://php.net/manual/en/function.session-register.php |
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| 15:43.26 | dejan123 | anyone can help me with nginx rewrite ? |
| 15:43.30 | dejan123 | I want to make internal redirect (rewrite) with Nginx so for example request site.com/car/ferrari.php to become site.com/index.php/section=cars&model=ferrari |
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| 15:45.23 | ksk | as i said on oftc, if http://wiki.nginx.org/HttpRewriteModule does not help you maybe #nginx will, as long as you did not even try it i dont think one will help you likely |
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| 15:45.51 | dejan123 | ksk, |
| 15:45.54 | dejan123 | on that link |
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| 15:46.09 | dejan123 | there is far from enough info about what I need as I told you on other server or where.. |
| 15:46.14 | dejan123 | etc |
| 15:46.15 | ksk | see rewrite, first example. looks like what you want to me |
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| 15:46.20 | dejan123 | I am trying it whole day by the way |
| 15:46.33 | dejan123 | HAHA |
| 15:46.41 | dejan123 | ksk, NO it is NOT LOOKING HOW WHAT i WANT |
| 15:46.42 | dejan123 | TO ME |
| 15:46.50 | dejan123 | sorry mistakenly turned caps |
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| 15:47.20 | dejan123 | try to respect other people like you should if you want to help help if not don't |
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| 15:47.29 | dejan123 | just stop misleading |
| 15:47.32 | dejan123 | people |
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| 15:47.47 | Sabbie | dejan123, this is a debian channel, not an nginx channel |
| 15:47.54 | dejan123 | he don't give a damn |
| 15:47.59 | max192mb | my ancient laptop can NOT use clonezilla so my only choice is mondorescue, can anyone help me install it on wheezy? |
| 15:48.06 | dejan123 | Sabbie, that is why I asked if anyone can help me with nginx rewrite problem |
| 15:48.27 | dejan123 | so I am very sorry taht I asked in debian channel ^^ |
| 15:48.41 | dejan123 | hope you will forgive me and I won't go in hell |
| 15:48.46 | dejan123 | :) |
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| 15:49.06 | babilen | don't worry |
| 15:49.15 | dejan123 | however only in linux channels on freenode I meet normal people |
| 15:49.27 | dejan123 | just joking no offense |
| 15:49.34 | mischief | ahhh thanks Sabbie |
| 15:49.41 | mischief | look at the cert now; it's fixed :-) |
| 15:49.49 | dejan123 | probably you don't want your channel to be turned in mess where everyone asks anything |
| 15:49.56 | dejan123 | but heyyy its 2013 last time I checked |
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| 15:50.10 | dejan123 | try to make website put some ads youll get rich too fro mhelping people.. |
| 15:50.20 | dejan123 | maek some web chat better than irc |
| 15:50.21 | dejan123 | etc |
| 15:50.26 | dejan123 | just saying.. |
| 15:50.29 | Sabbie | looks good indeed mischief :) |
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| 15:50.47 | dejan123 | the whole idea of having chat room and telling all to not ask question other than debian .. I am not sure |
| 15:51.04 | dejan123 | idea is ok but its irc chat room and its 2013 |
| 15:51.08 | dejan123 | that is very very bad |
| 15:51.29 | babilen | dejan123: Drop it please -- Debian related questions about nginx are fine here, but it might make sense to ask more specific ones in the nginx channel. There is no point in pursuing this discussion further. |
| 15:51.31 | dejan123 | even that is ok but real thing I want to say and I will say it, is that |
| 15:51.40 | unkmar | Any chance of be downgrading my php v5.4.4 to php v5.3.3 ? |
| 15:51.45 | babilen | unkmar: no |
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| 15:51.50 | dejan123 | some freenode officials or at least some operators of some channels are totaly psycho freaks |
| 15:52.01 | babilen | dejan123: DROP IT |
| 15:52.03 | dejan123 | so you are in same basket as them |
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| 15:52.39 | babilen | dejan123: Seriously, there is absolutely no point in ranting about this for this long. Move on. |
| 15:53.46 | Sabbie | unkmar: you can pin your php version to get the 5.3 version |
| 15:54.07 | babilen | no |
| 15:54.17 | Sabbie | why not |
| 15:54.19 | Sabbie | ? |
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| 15:54.34 | ksk | !tell me about downgrade |
| 15:54.47 | ksk | !tell Sabbie about downgrade |
| 15:54.57 | ksk | he does not paste it in channel no more?^^ |
| 15:55.01 | babilen | Wheezy ships with 5.4.4 and you cannot simply downgrade that. The way to handle this situation right now is to run squeeze and work on upgrading the legacy PHP applications to work on 5.4. There really isn't an alternative to this. |
| 15:55.05 | Sabbie | no he pm'ed me |
| 15:55.28 | Sabbie | but I thought you could pin applications from older repo's |
| 15:55.50 | ksk | it may be possible to compile your php5.3 from php.net sources - but if you are here to ask about it is probably not a good idea |
| 15:55.55 | max192mb | anyone? |
| 15:56.00 | unkmar | babilen: okay. so. reinstall to squeeze and NEVER upgrade. Gotcha. |
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| 15:56.08 | ksk | you could have done maybe befor it got upgraded to 5.4 but you cannot go back |
| 15:56.36 | babilen | *sigh* |
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| 15:57.19 | babilen | ##php will tell him the same thing -- why is it *always* PHP develpers? </rhetoricalquestion> |
| 15:57.25 | Sabbie | babilen, what about this technique? http://blog.wpkg.org/2013/06/20/downgrading-to-php-5-3-on-debian-wheezy-7-0/ |
| 15:57.32 | ksk | using applications that rely on "old" versions of php is not a good idea neither |
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| 15:58.39 | smw | Sabbie, soon enough, squeeze will be EOLed and you won't get security updates for it |
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| 15:59.13 | smw | Sabbie, this is the time to upgrade to the latest version. Right now both squeeze and wheezy are supported |
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| 15:59.51 | max192mb | afio is available for jessie but not wheezy! even though afio predates debian and the FSF! |
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| 16:00.54 | babilen | Sabbie: It is the absolutely wrong approach to this "problem" -- Squeeze won't be supported for very long and upstream doesn't support that version at all for quite a while already. The way to deal with this is to develop your applications in such a way that they work on *multiple* PHP versions and if that is not possible (seems to be the case with PHP) then to upgrade your application so it works with the release you want to deploy on. |
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| 16:02.24 | smw | Sabbie, Debian is doing a great service by still providing php updates to a discontinued version. This (hopefully) will give you the time to upgrade |
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| 16:03.01 | Sabbie | Yes, I agree that it's not the best approach and not recommended, but it IS possible. At least until someone would be able to fully upgrade their application to support the newer php version. |
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| 16:03.38 | Sabbie | anyway, I think the guy who asked the question is already gone, so nevermind |
| 16:03.41 | koollman | babilen: it's the wrong approach,but most other approaches aren't really available options |
| 16:05.04 | babilen | Sabbie: Then don't deploy on wheezy but on squeeze (or another distribution that still ships *and supports* the version you target... downgrading PHP on wheezy shouldn't be done as it breaks all php packages we ship. (well, maybe not all, but ...) |
| 16:05.19 | babilen | It is simply not supported. And you don't want your production systems to be unsupported. |
| 16:06.05 | mumpitzel | especially not when you run php |
| 16:06.23 | Sabbie | babilen, but what if you are running a development box on which you temporarly need to debug an application that runs on php 5.3. Do you recommend I reinstall my box with squeeze just for this purpose? |
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| 16:06.41 | babilen | Sabbie: I'd test it in a VM or chroot. |
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| 16:07.44 | Sabbie | yeah, fair enough |
| 16:08.20 | Guest39243 | I would like to create encrypted file containers within disks. Is there anything that is similar to Truecrypt on Debian, using a simple GUI? [not looking for the deb version of truecrypt. something else.] |
| 16:09.07 | babilen | dpkg: tell Guest39243 -about encfs |
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| 16:10.43 | Guest39243 | Thanks babilen. will try. |
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| 16:37.34 | cwong2012 | i can cat file.tar.gz | nc -l 9999 and on the other end. nc hostname 9999 > file.tar.gz right? |
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| 16:44.49 | Scriptonaut | hey guys, I'm having trouble installing debian, it says it can't recognize my CD and just can't seem to get over that fact |
| 16:45.09 | Scriptonaut | I don't care about the CD, I tell it to skip that step, but then the only steps in the installation process involve the CD |
| 16:45.19 | Scriptonaut | I've had this problem on 4 different machines |
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| 16:46.17 | Scriptonaut | this is 7.1 btw |
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| 16:49.28 | eliots | Hello. I installed Wheezy on old HP d530 CMT and everything works fine but speakers (built-in speaker works). alsa screenshots: http://s24.postimg.org/i01j3s8lh/image.png http://s24.postimg.org/hok2r0s5h/image.png |
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| 16:50.10 | Scriptonaut | eliots, I'm curious, how did you get passed the recognizing the CD |
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| 16:51.17 | Muzaffer | hi |
| 16:51.18 | eliots | Scriptonaut, i instaled it from USB |
| 16:51.44 | Scriptonaut | I did too, but it gets stuck at recognizing my CD drive |
| 16:51.48 | Scriptonaut | even if I disconnect it |
| 16:52.03 | musca | Scriptonaut: how did you create the CD? |
| 16:52.09 | Scriptonaut | unetbootin |
| 16:52.14 | Scriptonaut | I didn't create a CD |
| 16:52.15 | musca | bah! |
| 16:52.18 | Scriptonaut | I downloaded the netinstall |
| 16:52.26 | Scriptonaut | and wrote it to my usb stick with unetbootin |
| 16:52.43 | musca | unetbootin breaks the installer |
| 16:52.55 | Scriptonaut | ok what should I use |
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| 16:52.58 | Scriptonaut | YUMI? |
| 16:53.40 | musca | Scriptonaut: What OS do you run at the moment? |
| 16:53.49 | Scriptonaut | Win 7 |
| 16:53.57 | Muzaffer | I'm trying to install debian on a dedicated server. although the server has a 3TB disk, debian can't recognise it. any ideas? |
| 16:54.13 | Muzaffer | the disk is GPT formatted |
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| 16:56.06 | jelly | Muzaffer: can you see that device in "dmesg" command output or /var/log/kern.log? |
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| 16:57.21 | Scriptonaut | can somebody please suggest a program that writes an iso to usb on windows 7 that won't break the debian installer |
| 16:57.53 | Muzaffer | oh my bad, if you add the numbers in df output up, everything falls into place |
| 16:58.07 | macint0sh | syslinux |
| 16:58.13 | musca | Scriptonaut: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb contains only linux advice |
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| 16:58.45 | musca | Scriptonaut: i heard the name "win32diskimager" |
| 16:58.51 | Walex | Muzaffer: "can't recognise it" can mean a lot of things |
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| 16:59.21 | Muzaffer | Walex: it has been recognised as 2TB |
| 16:59.39 | Muzaffer | but like I said, it was my bad |
| 16:59.39 | Scriptonaut | thanks |
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| 17:04.51 | musca | !tell Scriptonaut about usb install |
| 17:04.56 | musca | finally! |
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| 17:16.06 | Scriptonaut | ok, does anybody know why debian can't handle broadcom wireless network interfaces? |
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| 17:16.16 | Scriptonaut | ubuntu does it fine, but I always have this problem on laptops |
| 17:16.20 | Scriptonaut | with debian |
| 17:17.12 | musca | Scriptonaut: you need firmware for it. Which device is it? lspci -nn |
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| 17:17.54 | musca | and there is an unofficial iso with firmware integrated .. let me look for it. |
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| 17:19.37 | musca | !tell Scriptonaut about firmware images |
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| 17:21.17 | musca | Scriptonaut: for hints how to provide firmware for the installer /msg dpkg installer firmware |
| 17:21.32 | Scriptonaut | alright thanks for the help |
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| 17:34.17 | ll_ | quick question: is setting swappiness to 0 likely to save battery power on a laptop? the swap is on a hard disk (not ssd) and i've never seen the ram get close to full. |
| 17:34.49 | ll_ | with the stock 686-pae kernel for wheezy. |
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| 17:36.01 | Sabbie | if you're ram isn't getting 'nearly full' your system will probably not even swap ll_ |
| 17:36.13 | ll_ | Sabbie: it does swap, but very little. |
| 17:36.39 | Sabbie | I usually set it to 0, but I don't care if my workstation crashes. For servers I don't put it lower than 25 |
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| 17:37.24 | ll_ | why would it crash? once the ram is full it will start swapping anyway, right? |
| 17:37.45 | Sabbie | I think that if you set it to 0 it will bypass the swap and go straight to the oom-killer |
| 17:38.09 | ll_ | hm. |
| 17:38.21 | Sabbie | according to wikipedia it will swap to avoid an out of memory condition |
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| 17:40.02 | mumpitzel | isn't swappiness mainly controlling the rlation of disk cache in RAM vs. swap usage? |
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| 18:08.00 | savid | How can use alsa to loopback the microphone to headphones? I have the snd_aloop module installed, but I'm not sure how to enable the loopback. |
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| 18:11.17 | max192mb | can anyone recommend me a GUI or ncurses app for wheezy that offers the same functionality, and above all, ease of use that mondorescue and clonezilla offer? BTW, mondorescue can not be installed on wheezy and my old PII laptop does not meet the minimum sys requirements for clonezilla |
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| 18:11.43 | Scriptonaut | argh, still can't use my wireless interface |
| 18:11.58 | Scriptonaut | nobody here has run into trouble with non-free drivers(broadcom) |
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| 18:12.13 | Scriptonaut | firmware install doesn't help |
| 18:12.16 | ompaul | Scriptonaut: have you read the wireless page it tekks kits if giid styff |
| 18:12.22 | ompaul | wow |
| 18:12.27 | ompaul | lots of good stuff :) |
| 18:12.33 | ompaul | !wireless |
| 18:12.33 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 18:12.41 | ompaul | Scriptonaut: it never failed me |
| 18:12.48 | Scriptonaut | oh, thanks |
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| 18:14.29 | ompaul | Scriptonaut: generally speaking there is a way (the debian way) to do anything on debian, usually gathered by users and added to the wiki, there is also "the debian administrators handbook" |
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| 18:15.08 | babilen | Scriptonaut: Which device is it? What does "lspci -nn|grep -i network" give you? |
| 18:15.09 | Scriptonaut | I'm a bit dumb, do you guys understand the difference between normal and legacy drivers? |
| 18:15.17 | Scriptonaut | I'm on windows |
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| 18:15.33 | babilen | Scriptonaut: Okay, what's the chipset or PCIID of your wireless card? |
| 18:15.42 | emiliyan | xorg.conf no loaded ati adapter |
| 18:15.45 | emiliyan | >?? |
| 18:15.50 | ompaul | Scriptonaut: stick a wire in it, attach it to the net - join us from that |
| 18:16.02 | Will_Tampa | LOL ompaul |
| 18:16.16 | babilen | emiliyan: xorg.conf is deprecated and you don't need it anyway to load the radeon driver as that will be loaded by default. |
| 18:16.24 | babilen | dpkg: tell emiliyan -about radeon |
| 18:16.33 | emiliyan | hmm |
| 18:16.34 | babilen | dpkg: tell emiliyan -about empty xorg.conf |
| 18:16.41 | emiliyan | yes |
| 18:16.44 | babilen | emiliyan: Are you perhaps referring to fglrx? |
| 18:16.52 | ompaul | Will_Tampa: wireless and wired connections ... last time I checked they were different :-) |
| 18:17.12 | Scriptonaut | the ethernet interface is also unsupported |
| 18:17.18 | AVRS | Hello. Can .ram files only be played with RealPlayer? http://sources.debian.net/src/mc/3:4.8.10-1/misc/ext.d/video.sh |
| 18:17.31 | emiliyan | babilen, yes' |
| 18:17.40 | emiliyan | install fglrx driver |
| 18:17.48 | Will_Tampa | a quick Q: I just formated a TB... what is a good minimal size to partition it ? & does Deb force unity on you like ubintu does? |
| 18:17.49 | emiliyan | os[Linux 3.2.0-4-686-pae i686] distro[Debian 7.1] cpu[2 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) Dual CPU T3400 @ 2.16GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 72.0% free] disk[Total: 289.5GB, 92.2% free] video[1002:95c2] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel] |
| 18:18.08 | ompaul | Will_Tampa: whatever you want, and no |
| 18:18.12 | emiliyan | no ati inicial card |
| 18:18.35 | Scriptonaut | my chipset is Intel GM45/GM47 |
| 18:18.35 | emiliyan | babilen, root@debian:/home/emiliyan# aticonfig --odgc |
| 18:18.35 | emiliyan | Default Adapter - ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3430 |
| 18:18.35 | emiliyan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.35 | emiliyan | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.35 | emiliyan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:18.38 | babilen | Scriptonaut: That is very unlikely, but I/we cannot help you if you don't provide more information. The most common reason why devices don't work is that you require firmware and that you didn't use an installer with firmware or didn't provide firmware during the installation. It might also be that the kernel does not support your device, but I really cannot help you further without knowing the pci id of those devices. |
| 18:18.43 | Scriptonaut | Southbridge 82801IM (ICH9-M) |
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| 18:19.09 | Will_Tampa | ompaul: I was looking to maybe dual boot it with win 8.1 |
| 18:19.13 | babilen | emiliyan: aticonfig shouldn't be used on Debian -- Are you trying to use the fglrx driver? |
| 18:19.27 | babilen | emiliyan: How did you install the fglrx driver? |
| 18:19.34 | emiliyan | w8 |
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| 18:19.59 | Scriptonaut | thanks guys, see ya |
| 18:20.07 | babilen | Scriptonaut: I am talking about your wireless adaptor and ethernet card ... |
| 18:20.16 | babilen | ah, well ... |
| 18:20.24 | Will_Tampa | babilen: you missed |
| 18:20.34 | babilen | Will_Tampa: Missed what? |
| 18:20.37 | emiliyan | babilen, root@debian:/home/emiliyan# aptitude -r -t wheezy-backports install fglrx-legacy-driver |
| 18:20.50 | emiliyan | on website debian.org |
| 18:20.54 | Will_Tampa | bab script .... :) |
| 18:21.17 | ompaul | Will_Tampa: eh running commentry on other peoples doings are not considered to be good form |
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| 18:21.41 | babilen | emiliyan: Okay, then continue with the instructions on https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary -- in particular "Configuration" |
| 18:21.46 | Will_Tampa | Opps.... How rude o' me |
| 18:22.01 | ompaul | suddenly I can't help you any more |
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| 18:22.19 | Will_Tampa | ??? |
| 18:22.49 | babilen | Will_Tampa: Unity has not yet been packaged for Debian -- And please try to keep it on-topic and focused here. I have no idea what you want to tell me with "bab script .... :)" |
| 18:22.55 | babilen | dpkg: tell Will_Tampa -about unity |
| 18:23.00 | babilen | dpkg: tell Will_Tampa -about install debian |
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| 18:23.33 | emiliyan | babilen, no detect |
| 18:23.39 | emiliyan | babilen, root@debian:/home/emiliyan# lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 18:23.39 | emiliyan | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device [1002:95c2] |
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| 18:25.04 | Will_Tampa | Ok here is another old prob that has kept Deb off my laptop... it has the broadcom net chip.... Ubuntu installs the 3rd party drivers on install of OS... I know I should d/l the latest debian & look...but I am here chating... so ....Does Deb now? |
| 18:25.12 | babilen | emiliyan: You have to create a configuration file as detailed on https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Configuration and you *DO NOT NEED* a /etc/X11/xorg.conf and you also shouldn't use aticonfig |
| 18:25.28 | ompaul | dpkg: tell Will_Tampa about broadcom |
| 18:25.34 | emiliyan | okey babilen thx |
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| 18:25.41 | Will_Tampa | ompaul: can I /msg you? |
| 18:25.43 | babilen | Will_Tampa: What's the exact chipset or pciid ? What does "lspci -nn|grep -i network" give you? |
| 18:25.57 | babilen | Will_Tampa: Try to keep it in the channel. |
| 18:26.07 | ompaul | Will_Tampa: no, in case I get it wrong |
| 18:26.07 | Will_Tampa | Hay at least I asked ;) |
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| 18:27.11 | babilen | Will_Tampa: No, it's great that you ask but the knowledge of the channel is infinitely larger than the knowledge of ompaul |
| 18:27.16 | babilen | couldn't resist |
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| 18:27.48 | ompaul | babilen: as you might say, finite datasets are finite :) |
| 18:28.06 | Will_Tampa | I think I will partition off 75GB of the 931 I have & install Deb on that (or is that too small ... figureing I will beinstalling Chrome & god knows what else, except not many games (my vid card is .... OUT of date by 5 years) |
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| 18:28.31 | ompaul | Will_Tampa: what's wrong with dedicating it to debian? |
| 18:29.36 | babilen | Will_Tampa: Can you answer my question or is that problematic in some way? Either way I would recommend to use the installer with firmware or provide firmware during the installation. That is detailed in <firmware image> and <installer firmware> (ask the bot, dpkg) |
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| 18:29.58 | max192mb | can anyone recommend me a GUI or ncurses app for wheezy that offers the same functionality, and above all, ease of use that mondorescue and clonezilla offer? BTW, mondorescue can not be installed on wheezy and my old PII laptop does not meet the minimum system requirements for clonezilla |
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| 18:30.06 | Will_Tampa | ompaul: Ummm dual boot... I would like to install Win 8.1 ... if for no other reason then to keep on top of tech |
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| 18:30.21 | babilen | max192mb: What does mondorescue do? |
| 18:30.35 | ompaul | Will_Tampa: then do 50:#50 |
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| 18:30.52 | Will_Tampa | The laptop is not exactly handy at the moment ...sorry |
| 18:30.59 | jhutchins | max192mb: clonezilla doesn't need to be installed and has been working on current systems since at least 2006 |
| 18:31.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | How would I go about adding a failover IP address in anticipation of network configuration changes? |
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| 18:31.41 | babilen | max192mb: Most backup solutions on *nix are command line based or work via a web interface (e.g. backuppc) -- clonezilla is available in Debian and they also offer a wonderful live cd. |
| 18:31.52 | Eduard_Munteanu | I can do it the iproute2 way, but it's incredibly annoying. |
| 18:32.01 | AVRS | Will_Tampa: you of course will have a lot of unmapped space to create new partitions in after everything is installed? // such "on top of tech" makes it easier to violate a software patent ;) |
| 18:32.12 | jhutchins | max192mb: PII should work with it, that will be standard ATA disk drivers. |
| 18:32.15 | Eduard_Munteanu | (since you basically have to set up an entire route table for said address) |
| 18:32.35 | max192mb | jhutchins, clonezilla does NOT work on a laptop with less than 196MB RAM. In reality it does not work with less than 256MB RAM. My laptop mainboard supports maximum 192MB RAM |
| 18:32.59 | Will_Tampa | ompaul: True... Hmmm that is a thought.... or run 8.1 in a VM |
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| 18:34.06 | verysoftoiletppr | where can I configure my automatic mounted partitions? |
| 18:34.26 | max192mb | babilen, the best solution i have found is mondorescue which is not on the repo and neither is one of its depedencies, namely afio |
| 18:34.35 | Will_Tampa | I am learning Linux.... I am tired of WinCrap (though ... to a degree I can't quite turn it off yet) |
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| 18:35.13 | SmashingX | What VPN service would you like recommend for really hiding and no logging activities, etc over the internet |
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| 18:35.42 | babilen | max192mb: there are some graphical ones though, but I am not familiar with them. Personally I would recommend backuppc or dirvish, but you might want to take a look at https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Backup_Programs#Graphical (not sure which of those are packaged in Debian) |
| 18:35.53 | Eduard_Munteanu | SmashingX: "really hiding"? Not sure what you mean, but if you want to conceal your identity, then go for Tor I'd say |
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| 18:36.24 | SmashingX | so VPN is not as good a Tor then? |
| 18:36.48 | AVRS | SmashingX: read Tor FAQs |
| 18:36.59 | Will_Tampa | SmashingX: On TWIT.TV they push proxpn (http://proxpn.com/) & it has a basic free version |
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| 18:37.22 | AVRS | SmashingX: I don't know if they have comparisons though. |
| 18:37.58 | jhutchins | max192mb: Sorry, you're right about the RAM. You can still use the underlying tools from clonezilla. rsync and dd will work, and partimage might (can't find minimum RAM for it). |
| 18:38.17 | SmashingX | like this note says it seems like VPN is not as anonymous as they claim http://invisibler.com/hidemyass-didnt-hide-his/ |
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| 18:39.10 | max192mb | jhutchins, i am not after dd rsync an the like. i am after an ncurses or GUI alternative to mondorescue and clonezilla that works on heezy |
| 18:39.38 | jhutchins | verysoftoiletppr: /etc/fstab |
| 18:39.56 | babilen | max192mb: clonezilla *is* in wheezy |
| 18:40.07 | jhutchins | verysoftoiletppr: If you mean "automatically at boot". If you need automatically on acceess look at automount. |
| 18:40.15 | verysoftoiletppr | jhutchins I have more things mounted than those in my fstab: https://dpaste.de/bpuhE/ |
| 18:40.28 | babilen | never used mondorescue and not sure what it does, but the list I've given max192mb should allow him/her to find alternatives. |
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| 18:41.14 | max192mb | babilen, i am going thru the list but so far i have not found anything that meets my criteria |
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| 18:42.55 | jhutchins | verysoftoiletppr: What release is that? |
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| 18:43.29 | jhutchins | verysoftoiletppr: ... and what do you want to change? |
| 18:43.54 | verysoftoiletppr | jhutchins I want to disable tmpfs |
| 18:44.00 | verysoftoiletppr | mount everything on the disk |
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| 18:44.19 | max192mb | babilen, http://redobackup.org/download.php does what i want BUT it needs a minimum of 512MB RAM |
| 18:44.45 | babilen | max192mb: Well, it looks as if mondorescue provides packages for Debian ... I have experience with more, well, command-line oriented tools such as rdiff-backup, rsnapshot, duplicity, bacula or backuppc and would recommend dirvish or backuppc ... there are plenty of others and I always wanted to check burp or obnam, but am heppy with my backuppc configuration. |
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| 18:46.49 | max192mb | there are debian test packages for mondo but afio is a dependency which can not be satisfied |
| 18:47.36 | qwebirc18096 | Any thoughts on how to fix an unmet dependency issue (on a bcfg2 Debian wheezy client): libjpeg8-dev : Conflicts: libjpeg62-dev but 6b1-3 is to be installed |
| 18:47.39 | babilen | max192mb: no idea, simply wanted to share this information with you as I was under the impression that you weren't aware of it. (or at least you didn't mention it at all) |
| 18:47.55 | babilen | max192mb: If their packages are broken there is very little that I can do about it |
| 18:48.35 | SmashingX | Will_Tampa: I created an account but I don't think you can get that to work in Linux, did you? |
| 18:49.16 | max192mb | babilen, ok thanks anyway |
| 18:49.22 | LifeGuard | babilen, echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "fglrx"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf |
| 18:49.34 | babilen | LifeGuard: yes? |
| 18:49.44 | LifeGuard | babilen, what to write my gpu |
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| 18:50.07 | babilen | LifeGuard: Are you emiliyan ? |
| 18:50.19 | Will_Tampa | SmashingX: To be honest... I never tried it on win or linux ... I was thinking about it.... & I am thinking of making my own VPN between my lappy & the duture Deb that I will install on this desktop |
| 18:50.56 | LifeGuard | yes |
| 18:50.59 | babilen | LifeGuard: That command will create a suitable configuration file for fglrx -- "My GPU" does not have to substituted with anything and is fine like that. |
| 18:51.01 | Will_Tampa | SmashingX: sorry... but It is highly recomended by GRC.com |
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| 18:51.12 | SmashingX | Will_Tampa: for me there's no point to create a VPN between computers you own because google can log what you are doing |
| 18:51.43 | jhutchins | verysoftoiletppr: Again, which release? |
| 18:51.58 | max192mb | babilen, can i install an amd64 deb on a Pentium II laptop? will it work? |
| 18:52.09 | Will_Tampa | SmashingX: you log into google & everything you do on that account is looged (same with FB) soulds like your just tring to hide your IP |
| 18:52.36 | carandraug | hi! I'm studyng some server administration and the examples mention to run the discard server. In previous chapters they say it's a somewhat universal server that simply discards everything. But it's sayig it doesn't exist. Googling for debian discard server is not bringing anything useful |
| 18:52.39 | mumpitzel | max192mb: no |
| 18:52.45 | babilen | max192mb: No, definitely not. Those processors don't support 64bit. |
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| 18:53.17 | mumpitzel | max192mb: first intel cpu that can run amd64 is a pentium 4, one of the later models, not all. first amd one is a athlon64 |
| 18:53.33 | SmashingX | Will_Tampa: I'm trying to avoid that corporations log my activities, and you are right if I'm logged in FB or google no matter what IP I have they log my activities, but if you have your own IP is the same thing they are logging your activities even though you're not logged in |
| 18:53.33 | Will_Tampa | SmashingX: do a search on Free Proxy server..... maybe that will help.. though I have played with Hide My Ass...it is slow... |
| 18:53.58 | SmashingX | free proxy serveR? |
| 18:54.03 | max192mb | mumpitzel, , ok thanks |
| 18:54.07 | SmashingX | nah, that sucks |
| 18:54.13 | Will_Tampa | LOL |
| 18:54.25 | SmashingX | I thought HMA was good |
| 18:54.41 | SmashingX | Will_Tampa: so how bad was your download speed? |
| 18:54.55 | mumpitzel | SmashingX: ask in #networking or similar channels. this is not a debian question |
| 18:55.36 | SmashingX | mumpitzel: isn't OpenVPN for debian a debian question? |
| 18:56.25 | Will_Tampa | SmashingX: you have a MacDonnalds nearby or a hotel... most have free hotspots ... use them... I never downloed through Hide... the web pages loading 3x slower then direct convinced me that its ok to use like on forumes or irc... but files (BT say) .... I would pass... |
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| 18:56.59 | mumpitzel | SmashingX: < SmashingX> What VPN service would you like recommend for really hiding and no logging activities, etc over the internet is not a openvpn or debian question. if you can't get openvpn to work, then it's a debian question |
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| 18:57.52 | suigeneris | I am trying to install debian on a dedicated server, and I am getting ERROR: DRIVE1 is busy - cannot access device /dev/sda |
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| 18:58.26 | emiliyan | no works |
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| 18:58.35 | emiliyan | babilen, |
| 18:58.55 | SmashingX | mumpitzel: well, acutally my OpenVPN works, what I've been asking in this channel with no luck is how can I connect to my computer with VPN through another computer remotely using SSH? |
| 18:58.56 | emiliyan | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device [1002:95c2] |
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| 18:59.38 | mumpitzel | SmashingX: do you have a ssh server running? |
| 18:59.46 | mumpitzel | SmashingX: which is reachable from outside? |
| 19:00.50 | SmashingX | mumpitzel: yes it has a ssh server running, and I was able to reach it before I connected that computer to VPN |
| 19:00.52 | AVRS | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.53 | dpkg | AVRS: that's too long |
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| 19:01.09 | mumpitzel | SmashingX: -NDlocalhost:10080 username@sshserver then any program that can use a SOCKS server (e.g. your browser) can run over that (it's a secure ssh tunnel) |
| 19:01.24 | jhutchins | SmashingX: VPN has an option to route all traffic through the VPN. THis is the default ons some configurations. |
| 19:01.36 | mumpitzel | SmashingX: you just point the browser to the socks server at localhost:10080 |
| 19:01.48 | SmashingX | jhutchins: I have that configured already why? |
| 19:01.51 | jhutchins | SmashingX: You can use "route" to display the current roots including default. |
| 19:01.52 | babilen | elvora: Yes? You have to ask a question if you want me to answer something. |
| 19:02.19 | jhutchins | SmashingX: Then probably the VPN is re-routing the ssh traffic. |
| 19:02.19 | verysoftoiletppr | jhutchins wheezy |
| 19:02.30 | babilen | elvora: sorry, wrong nickname. |
| 19:02.41 | babilen | emiliyan: Yes? You have to ask a question if you want me to answer something. |
| 19:02.57 | SmashingX | jhutchins: hold on I thought I did that but sorry I didn't do it because I couldn't find the option |
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| 19:03.14 | SmashingX | jhutchins: how do you route all traffic through VPN? |
| 19:03.21 | mumpitzel | !pciid 1002:95c2 |
| 19:03.27 | Frederick | folks how can I check which logfiles in /var/log are recieving most data in a time lapse? |
| 19:04.22 | babilen | emiliyan: But then I would recommend to simply use the radeon driver and make sure that you have firmware-linux-nonfree and libgl1-mesa-dri installed. No idea why you want fglrx... But you installed the driver (at least I think you did) and if you ran that "echo ..." command you also have a suitable and working configuration file. It should, therefore, work. |
| 19:04.35 | babilen | *sigh* |
| 19:04.38 | SmashingX | I found that option on my other computer my mac, but I couldn't find the option on my linux box |
| 19:05.19 | jhutchins | verysoftoiletppr: I think that's controlled by /etc/defaults/tmpfs |
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| 19:05.43 | peterrooney | Frederick: wc --bytes logfile at whatever timing interval interests you |
| 19:05.51 | jhutchins | SmashingX: It's in the configuration for the vpn connection. |
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| 19:06.20 | SmashingX | jhutchins: I can't find the option :( is it in Advanced options? |
| 19:06.54 | jhutchins | SmashingX: I do not have a system with VPN configured available, I'm not sure. There are docs... |
| 19:07.02 | SmashingX | :9 |
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| 19:07.51 | jhutchins | SmashingX: I'm accessing irssi running on my home Debian box from my windows PC at work. |
| 19:08.18 | SmashingX | that's what I wanna do dang! |
| 19:08.28 | SmashingX | but my debian at home is connected to VPN |
| 19:08.40 | jhutchins | irssi in screen on the home box, ssh via putty from windows. |
| 19:08.45 | SmashingX | I was able to do before I connected it to VPN |
| 19:08.58 | SmashingX | I have linux at work to |
| 19:08.59 | SmashingX | too |
| 19:09.02 | jhutchins | my router at home forwards a (non-standard) port to my desktop. |
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| 19:09.40 | Frederick | peterrooney: it did work thanks a lot |
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| 19:21.33 | jhutchins | SmashingX: If I connect from a Linux box (or run an Xserver on my Windows box) I can run GUI applications too. I suppose I could launch a GUI browser on the home system and surf without working being able to see what I was doing. |
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| 19:24.12 | dokma | I did a dd of debian live iso to a usb stick and tried to boot it |
| 19:24.22 | dokma | it just sat there for 15 minutes flashing the whole time |
| 19:24.31 | dokma | I guess it does not take that long to boot? |
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| 19:25.01 | dokma | this is the one I used: debian-live-7.0.0-i386-rescue.iso |
| 19:25.27 | dokma | how long should it take to boot a live usb stick? |
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| 19:28.21 | Nebukadneza | heho |
| 19:29.20 | dokma | anyone? did I do something amazingly stupid? |
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| 19:29.42 | Nebukadneza | did you already try booting? |
| 19:29.58 | jelly-home | dokma: is it still going blinky? |
| 19:30.02 | mtn | dokma: yep, something wrong, just takes a little time to boot |
| 19:30.05 | Nebukadneza | of course, it'll depend on your hardware, usb interface and stick -- generally those sticks are very slow writing and much much faster reading |
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| 19:35.56 | dokma | it's on this machine |
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| 19:36.15 | dokma | I got stuck in a disgusting situation where I have WinXP machine that can't receive files in any way |
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| 19:36.35 | dokma | I have no writeable CDs and the usb stick won't work cause the drivers are not installed |
| 19:36.40 | dokma | wifi same way |
| 19:36.52 | dokma | so I figured I'll make a bootable stick and put the drivers on it |
| 19:37.02 | dokma | boot and push the drivers onto the NTFS partition |
| 19:37.06 | dokma | and then install them |
| 19:37.21 | dokma | but got stuck at booting debian live iso from stick |
| 19:37.30 | dokma | I'm downloading another one right now |
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| 19:44.42 | format_c_ | Hello, |
| 19:44.42 | Harzilein | hi |
| 19:44.54 | format_c_ | why am I banned from this channel? |
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| 19:45.13 | Harzilein | is there a canonical helper to get the package name from a source packages' dsc file? |
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| 19:45.29 | Harzilein | (for shell scripts that is, not perl scripts) |
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| 19:46.33 | format_c | !ops it |
| 19:46.33 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: format_c complains about: it |
| 19:46.49 | format_c | seems Im banned from this channel via IPv6. Why? |
| 19:47.13 | babilen | format_c: Please don't do this, but join #debian-ops if you want to discuss a ban. |
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| 19:47.25 | format_c | babilen: thx |
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| 20:13.22 | monod | hey there |
| 20:13.28 | monod | I have this issue with audio with debian 7 |
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| 20:13.44 | monod | audio is being pitch-shifted up by a semi-octave |
| 20:13.46 | monod | oops |
| 20:13.50 | monod | sorry, semi-tone |
| 20:13.58 | monod | or even a full tone |
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| 20:14.04 | monod | can someone help please? |
| 20:14.09 | monod | it's very frustrating |
| 20:15.12 | jhutchins | monod: That's usually an uncorrectable hardware error (card sees wrong clock frequency). What hardware? |
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| 20:16.02 | monod | jhutchins, touché :( USB sound card, which has usually always worked fine, with linux I mean :( |
| 20:16.28 | monod | I also have another problem with that: when I boot the pc with debian I have to unplug and re-plug it back in in order to have it working |
| 20:16.39 | monod | really everytime |
| 20:16.57 | jelly-home | monod: does this happen only after a resume, or on first boot as well? |
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| 20:17.39 | monod | this last thing? It happens everytime time I boot up the pc, I'm not sure what you mean by "resume" |
| 20:17.44 | monod | jelly-home, ^ |
| 20:18.12 | jelly-home | (resume is the action of bringing back a pc from sleep) |
| 20:18.21 | monod | that I don't know then. |
| 20:18.36 | monod | but I think it doesn't happen with just a resume |
| 20:18.47 | monod | but, it's only what I think |
| 20:19.00 | jelly-home | if you never told the machine to sleep, it's not that |
| 20:19.41 | monod | I don't usually put the pc into standby mode, but I recall for example some ibernations |
| 20:19.49 | monod | which caused no apparent problem |
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| 20:20.06 | monod | how the heck is the card seeing the wrong freq and how can I fix this?? |
| 20:20.17 | monod | jelly-home, ^ |
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| 20:20.46 | jelly-home | no idea, mine only messes things up after a resume, and replugging fixes it |
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| 20:21.02 | jelly-home | you can always try using a different kernel |
| 20:21.22 | jhutchins | Yeah, if this used to work I would suspect a kernel update is what broke it. |
| 20:21.32 | SmashingX | Can I route all the traffic on my VPN using the network manager? |
| 20:21.40 | jhutchins | monod: Do you have anything overclocked? |
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| 20:23.02 | monod | jhutchins, absolutely not. And, oh-my-God... if I really have to change kernel... I don't really know how to do that and it sounds like it has to take some time... |
| 20:23.17 | ompaul | SmashingX: if the gateway is openvpn it will do it for you - as for NM it can be a bit tempestuous |
| 20:23.31 | monod | anyway, *sometimes* (just not today) sound starts being reproduced correclty, with no pitch-shift |
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| 20:23.44 | ompaul | monod: what version of debian is it? |
| 20:23.47 | monod | jhutchins, jelly-home ^ |
| 20:24.02 | monod | ompaul, 7, I guess it's wheezy right? |
| 20:24.30 | SmashingX | ompaul: is openvpn :) |
| 20:24.36 | ompaul | monod: when did you last apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 20:24.58 | ompaul | SmashingX: it's in the client config file to route it all over that - so have a look at the openvpn file or docs have fun |
| 20:24.58 | monod | right now :D when joined the channel |
| 20:25.01 | monod | ompaul, ^ |
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| 20:25.14 | ompaul | monod: has it finished? |
| 20:25.38 | monod | alright, it's everything ok, it went very fast as usual |
| 20:26.08 | Stealthii_ | Hi there. I've a debian machine configured with 3 interfaces, (eth0 => 10.83.7.15, eth0.3 => 10.83.3.15, eth0.6 => 10.83.6.15) |
| 20:26.09 | ompaul | have you firmware-linux-nonfree installed? |
| 20:26.39 | ompaul | monod: ^^ |
| 20:27.00 | Stealthii_ | I wish to configure debian to use eth0 by default, however if there is any traffic destined for the other subnets (10.83.3.0/24, 10.83.6.0/24) that it uses the interface on that subnet |
| 20:27.07 | monod | oh my... it seems.. the problem has gone unchecking a VLC thing in the audio settings panel..?! O_o even if the problem was system-wide.... O_O and, ompaul, no, I decided I would never get those. Were you going to say I need something from that or am I fine off? |
| 20:27.34 | ompaul | I was going to say it might help |
| 20:27.37 | monod | (also, thanks for answering guys) |
| 20:27.42 | monod | oh. |
| 20:27.44 | monod | hmm |
| 20:27.57 | monod | I'll consider that then, but as a "last resource" |
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| 20:28.09 | monod | since I also didn't install flashplugin e.g. |
| 20:28.12 | ompaul | fine - if you're happy what can we say |
| 20:28.16 | ompaul | !next |
| 20:28.16 | dpkg | NEXT PLEASE! |
| 20:28.37 | monod | hahaha, is that like "next" at the doctor's or at shop's? :D |
| 20:28.53 | ompaul | na it's irc |
| 20:29.34 | mjt | Stealthii_: there's no default _interface_, there's default _route_ |
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| 20:30.14 | ompaul | Stealthii_: ip route show will tell you how you are set up |
| 20:30.26 | Stealthii_ | sorry mjt, my mistake. ompaul I'll look at that, thanks! |
| 20:30.30 | ompaul | Stealthii_: and a sample ip route add 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 |
| 20:30.30 | mjt | (just `ip r' is sufficient) |
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| 20:31.35 | ompaul | mjt: I have trouble remembering I have options other than route add default gw 192.... |
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| 20:31.50 | mjt | and you don't want to add a subnet route as ompaul says, you most likely want `ip route add default via <some ip>' instead |
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| 20:32.15 | ompaul | mjt: he asked about the networks |
| 20:32.37 | mjt | for the "home" networks of the said ip addresses |
| 20:32.49 | Stealthii_ | ompaul, mjt: turns out I had two defaults. ip route del (extra route) seems to have fixed it all up! |
| 20:33.08 | Stealthii_ | thanks for your help, ip route explains very clearly how routing is set up. will remember this in future |
| 20:33.15 | ompaul | have fun |
| 20:33.25 | SmashingX | ompaul: but there's no config file for my vpn connection! |
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| 20:33.45 | ompaul | SmashingX: if you are using openvpn then there is a config file |
| 20:33.53 | ompaul | both client and server sides |
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| 20:34.25 | SmashingX | I'm using a commercial VPN service |
| 20:34.34 | SmashingX | so I just hav eto do it on my side I guess |
| 20:34.40 | ompaul | SmashingX: then you ask them about it |
| 20:34.49 | suigeneris | netstat: no support for `AF INET (tcp)' on this system. what does this mean? |
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| 20:35.08 | SmashingX | ompaul: ok I will ask them, but where's usually the configuration file/ |
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| 20:36.34 | mjt | suigeneris: how about trying out your google-fu ? Or reading a manpage? |
| 20:36.53 | ompaul | SmashingX: you are asking about a commercial offering, we don't know what they did or how they do it, we do know how we want stuff to happen, you can of course do what Stealthii_ did with route and route all packets toward the vpn |
| 20:37.53 | mad_mode_on | hey I placed just this line 40 16 * * * root echo "teste do crontab" at the end of /etc/crontab and save it. is it enough to run the echo ? |
| 20:38.17 | ompaul | mad_mode_on: root shouldn't be there |
| 20:38.18 | suigeneris | it says I need to load the tcp kernel module |
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| 20:38.37 | mad_mode_on | ompaul: I don' t get it |
| 20:38.54 | KNERD | on openldap....can someone point me to the right area to solve these errors? -> 51e0dae2 hdb_db_open: database "dc=nodomain": database already in use. AND -> 51e0dae2 backend_startup_one (type=hdb, suffix="dc=nodomain"): bi_db_open failed! (-1) |
| 20:39.16 | ompaul | mad_mode_on: 23 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0 && zenity --info --text "Olá" will echo soemthing to an X screen but youare not putting your echo anywhere |
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| 20:39.56 | ompaul | suigeneris: what kind of a machine is that? |
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| 20:40.14 | suigeneris | ompaul: a virtual machine |
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| 20:40.47 | ompaul | suigeneris: software version and how did you isntall it and what kind of vm toolbox |
| 20:41.00 | mad_mode_on | ompaul: but where do I place that line ? |
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| 20:41.13 | ompaul | crontab -e for your use |
| 20:41.14 | ompaul | user |
| 20:41.56 | suigeneris | ompaul: xen 4.1. I did apt-get install |
| 20:42.10 | mjt | suigeneris: actually it's quite a bit more fun than that |
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| 20:42.26 | ompaul | I (gladly) know nothing of xen |
| 20:42.38 | suigeneris | mjt: how do you mean? |
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| 20:43.59 | mjt | suigeneris: it can't find /proc/net/tcp |
| 20:44.16 | mad_mode_on | ompaul: ok I ran crontab -e as a regular user and then added 43 16 * * * export DISPLAY=:0 && zenity --info --text "Olá" but the message wasn't displayed. Now what ?? |
| 20:44.30 | mad_mode_on | yes, I saved it. |
| 20:44.45 | ompaul | at 16:43 in X on that machine it will appear |
| 20:45.05 | ompaul | mad_mode_on: I'm assuming you have zenity installed |
| 20:45.14 | ompaul | mad_mode_on: if you don't then it can't call it |
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| 20:45.52 | suigeneris | mjt: it seems I was not able to chroot successfully |
| 20:45.55 | ashka | hey there, I'm getting some trouble with cryptsetup |
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| 20:46.06 | jhutchins | ,versions zenity |
| 20:46.07 | judd | Package: zenity on i386 -- squeeze: 2.30.0-1; wheezy: 3.4.0-2; jessie: 3.8.0-1; sid: 3.8.0-1 |
| 20:46.20 | ashka | (on sid) I have cryptsetup and cryptsetup-bin installed, however I don't have the actual executable (I'd like to open a luks container) |
| 20:46.45 | mad_mode_on | ompaul: it is installed indeed |
| 20:47.02 | Warsumg | Has anyone installed an IDS like Snort in wheezy (or squeeze)? How long did it take you? |
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| 20:47.32 | ompaul | mad_mode_on: then once a day at 16:43 that should play I have it in my own crontab (local user not root) |
| 20:47.49 | ompaul | mad_mode_on: and I play it once an hour to remind me that it's there as a nice little thing |
| 20:47.54 | mad_mode_on | as I said I edited it as a local user |
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| 20:48.42 | debbu | My Linux Debian server has 2 NICs and the machine itself has internet connection, but the workstations behind it dont. It worked before I have not changed anything. The local LAN machines are pingable (those with fixed ip-s). Messages in /var/logs show following repeated message Out.of.Range IN=eth0. Need back the internet for all workstations. Have no clue where to start troubleshooting. I |
| 20:48.42 | debbu | can direct me to post info from command I can run remotely on Debian machine and I expect to get to the bottom of it. |
| 20:49.00 | ompaul | mad_mode_on: it works here and on other boxes I have (it's a nice little trick) so ... crontab -e and paste it in on a new line; game on so there is something not the same for you |
| 20:49.02 | mjt | "I can direct me" is fun |
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| 20:49.46 | suigeneris | isn't chroot /path/to/vm/disk.img /mnt/vm sufficient to chroot? |
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| 20:50.12 | debbu | It is indeed ;p |
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| 20:50.15 | failmastah | Guys, i need an advice, (in my homelands) since Aug 1st an act came into force, that results p2p censorship and penalties for seeding things they define as "illegal", so i'm going to re-set up my filejunk/router box as luks-encrypted. Is it a good idea to prefer bsd partition table against msdos? because everything fits when it comes to adding difficulty level for our retarded forensic specialists |
| 20:50.21 | debbu | any advice? |
| 20:50.27 | ompaul | mjt: suspect something kicked the sys/net echo 1 > some file I forgot |
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| 20:51.12 | ompaul | failmastah: you set yourself up to fail if you think they will remain ignorant for long |
| 20:51.40 | mjt | suigeneris: chroot chroots into a directory and runs a specified command. you're giving it a file not directory. chroot is just one system call, chroot(2), it doe no mounts or whatnot, including /proc /sys /dev etc. |
| 20:51.56 | KNERD | debbu: you need to setup DNS and desinate one of the machines which can reach the internet as a gateway in your ethX file |
| 20:51.59 | mjt | suigeneris: s/doe/does/ |
| 20:52.03 | failmastah | ompaul, i heard you, sir |
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| 21:04.17 | failmastah | ok, another question is if it's a good idea to use k-splice on luks-encrypted instance with physically removable bootloader media? |
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| 21:05.38 | mad_mode_on | ompaul: can I set crontab for root too ? |
| 21:05.55 | ompaul | mad_mode_on: how is it going to talk to X (not very well ime) |
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| 21:07.19 | mad_mode_on | ompaul: I mean: can I use tar ? |
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| 21:10.01 | jhutchins | mad_mode_on: There are multiple sources for cron jobs. Each user, including root, can create their own crontab, there is /etc/crontab, and /etc/cron.* |
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| 21:11.16 | mad_mode_on | jhutchins: why when I call crontab -e does it save to a file in /tmp instead of /etc/crontab ?? |
| 21:12.33 | jhutchins | mad_mode_on: It's a bit complicated - see the manpage for the actual process - but the file ends up in /var/spool/cron/crontabs |
| 21:13.21 | jhutchins | mad_mode_on: I've almost always used root's personal crontab or jobs in cron.daily/.hourly/.weekly, but practice here is to use /etc/crontab. |
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| 21:13.56 | xand | note that if you save the file in /tmp it won't be live until you exit the editor. |
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| 21:16.30 | jhutchins | mad_mode_on: Yeah, crontab -e edits the current users's /var/spool/cron/crontab/* |
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| 21:17.18 | jhutchins | mad_mode_on: The only way I know to change the crontabs in /etc is to edit them manually. |
| 21:18.10 | jhutchins | mad_mode_on: /etc/crontab does allow you to specify which user each command runs as. |
| 21:18.16 | mad_mode_on | jhutchins: I tried to edit the /etc/crontab but when I called crontab -e nothing was listed |
| 21:18.50 | jhutchins | mad_mode_on: crontab -e edits the current user's crontab, not /etc/crontab. If a user hasn't created the file previously it's blank. |
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| 21:19.25 | jhutchins | (Some systems will insert a template that has the syntax for the lines as a comment. |
| 21:19.27 | mad_mode_on | so is /etc/crontab system wide ? |
| 21:19.33 | jhutchins | mad_mode_on: Yes. |
| 21:19.58 | xand | obv only root can edit it, but things can run as non-root |
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| 21:20.15 | xand | that crontab has an extra column for the usern |
| 21:20.17 | xand | -n |
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| 21:21.13 | jhutchins | Then there's "at". |
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| 21:25.19 | Th0masR0ss | How do I revert xrandr -x? |
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| 21:28.07 | failmastah | maybe i'm missing something, but i can't find docs section which fully covers the process of installing debian from external hdd, the problem popped-up when i made an attempt to do it with unetbootin and it wasn't able to "see" 10gb fat32 partition (mounted) on my usb hdd, any tips? |
| 21:28.52 | cads | Hey guys, let P the the selections list of a given debian installation, and let G be a graph with a node for each element of P, and a directed edge from a node 'a' to a node 'b' whenever package a depends on package b. |
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| 21:29.32 | cads | Is there a tool that will produce G for a given system? |
| 21:29.38 | jhutchins | failmastah: We see a lot of problems with unetbootin It's not a Debian product that we support. |
| 21:29.45 | Th0masR0ss | Oh, it's xrandr -o normal |
| 21:30.22 | cads | In layman terms, I'd like to create a graph with nodes consisting only of packages currently installed on a system, and edges showing the dependencies among packages. |
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| 21:30.26 | peterrooney | cads: debtree, IIRC |
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| 21:31.19 | cads | tools like debtree, apt-rdepends and apt-cache dotty are a step towars this, but don't produce a complete graph of an intstalled system |
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| 21:32.08 | failmastah | jhutchins, indeed, but is this correct paper in context of my situation? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 21:32.18 | jhutchins | failmastah: Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. |
| 21:32.45 | failmastah | i don't have windows unfortunately, but thanks, i'll remember that |
| 21:33.36 | jhutchins | failmastah: Oh, then cat |
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| 21:34.46 | jhutchins | failmastah: Note that your target is not a partition, but the device itself. The image file will become the partition. |
| 21:35.21 | failmastah | jhutchins, thanks! |
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| 21:36.53 | peterrooney | cads: I'm out of ideas, then. |
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| 21:37.32 | angs | how can I install iw tool by apt-get install ... ? |
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| 21:39.33 | cads | peterrooney: if it doesn't exist yet, then maybe I can code it :) |
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| 21:48.39 | Elec_A | hello ,sorry , i just installed debian , and while installing debian told me i have to install some non free drivers, now after installation i want to install those non free drivers , what should i do ? |
| 21:49.23 | Elec_A | ia there any hardware installation tool ? |
| 21:49.28 | Elec_A | *is |
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| 21:55.08 | jhutchins | !firmware |
| 21:55.09 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
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| 21:57.25 | angs | how to install iw tool on debian lenny? I do "apt-get update && apt-get install iw", but it outputs Couldn't find package iw. and apt-get install wireless-tools are already installed |
| 21:57.45 | babilen | dpkg: tell Elec_A -about wheezy sources.list |
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| 21:59.09 | babilen | Elec_A: Edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and make sure you have contrib and non-free enabled. Then run "apt-get update". It should look something like http://paste.debian.net/23319/ -- You can then install suitable firmware packages for your hardware. Don't know which but You can list them by running "aptitude search ~n^firmware-" -- I'd start with firmware-linux and add additional packages as needed. |
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| 21:59.28 | ZetaNeta | hi |
| 21:59.45 | ZetaNeta | i am using debian with xfce |
| 21:59.52 | ZetaNeta | With probably nouveau driver |
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| 22:00.14 | Elec_A | babilen : thanks ;) |
| 22:00.17 | ZetaNeta | For some reason "Display" settings stopped to work |
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| 22:00.26 | ZetaNeta | Through, they used to |
| 22:00.42 | wo0f | what does LANGUAGE do inside /etc/default/locale ? |
| 22:02.26 | ZetaNeta | Now they show the resolution of 1024x768, 0 hz, Normal rotation and "none" reflection |
| 22:02.37 | ZetaNeta | And all 4 settings have only 1 position |
| 22:02.59 | ZetaNeta | Whats wrong? And is there any other tools to manipulate with displays |
| 22:03.19 | ZetaNeta | As i need to attach a VGA monitor, and have different picture on them |
| 22:03.30 | ZetaNeta | "And different resolution" |
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| 22:04.29 | Elec_A | babilen : my sources.list looks like http://paste.debian.net/23324/ . |
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| 22:05.52 | ZetaNeta | Elec_A, Both online sources failed to verify |
| 22:06.01 | ZetaNeta | Use CD to install debs :D |
| 22:06.32 | Elec_A | it is not possible to do it now ? |
| 22:06.40 | Elec_A | without CD ? |
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| 22:07.46 | babilen | Elec_A: Yeah, that won't do. You are missing most important repositories. Use the one I pasted (you can remove backports from it if you don't wnat that (yet), but it won't hurt to leave it in as well) |
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| 22:08.18 | babilen | Elec_A: Just edit the file and use the one I pasted, run "apt-get update" and you should be good to go. |
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| 22:11.16 | remote | is there a channel for debian m68k? |
| 22:11.42 | ZetaNeta | remote, !!!! |
| 22:12.01 | ZetaNeta | You know where to get a m68k port? |
| 22:12.13 | ZetaNeta | I been searching for it recently |
| 22:12.13 | Elec_A | babilen : thank you , i pasted your file and i did "apt-get update" . it is updating now . |
| 22:13.20 | remote | ZetaNeta: I don't know I'm only starting to look into it since I put my hands on a mac iici |
| 22:13.31 | babilen | Elec_A: Great, If you could paste the output of "lspci -nn" I could tell you which packages you have to install for your hardware. |
| 22:13.38 | remote | ZetaNeta: http://www.debian.org/ports/m68k/ ? |
| 22:13.40 | babilen | Elec_A: paste it to http://paste.debian.net that is |
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| 22:14.17 | babilen | dpkg: tell remote -about m68k |
| 22:14.20 | ZetaNeta | remote, I got 2 IIsi (one stoped to work recently), and a single IIx (but without some parts) |
| 22:14.31 | ZetaNeta | + keyboards, and stuff |
| 22:14.34 | babilen | remote: very very old school |
| 22:14.48 | ZetaNeta | dpkg, tell ZetaNeta -about m68k |
| 22:14.51 | ZetaNeta | LD |
| 22:14.54 | ZetaNeta | :D |
| 22:15.29 | ZetaNeta | babilen, "What exactly are you doing on a posix compatible os related channel?" |
| 22:15.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell ZetaNeta -about selftell |
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| 22:15.58 | babilen | ZetaNeta: what? |
| 22:16.15 | Elec_A | babilen : thank you , http://paste.debian.net/23328/ . |
| 22:16.36 | ZetaNeta | babilen, It was just a joke, about telling my self. I know how to use dpkg my self |
| 22:17.01 | ZetaNeta | babilen, Old school is the cool school |
| 22:17.10 | ZetaNeta | Where you "Take and put linux on HX-20" |
| 22:17.15 | remote | well I'm there now |
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| 22:17.31 | babilen | Elec_A: Ta! Please run "apt-get install firmware-realtek firmware-iwlwifi firmware-linux-nonfree" -- I would also recommend to install microcode to ensure that your processor is working without bugs. Do you have an AMD or Intel processor? |
| 22:17.33 | ZetaNeta | remote, My congratulations! |
| 22:17.36 | babilen | dpkg: microcode |
| 22:17.36 | dpkg | Microcode are instructions/structures for implementing high-level machine code within processors. The Linux kernel can load updated microcode on most x86 processors. Microcode patches for Intel and AMD64 CPUs are packaged for Debian as intel-microcode and amd64-microcode respectively; installing the relevant package is recommended to ensure system stability. Ask me about <non-free sources>. |
| 22:17.39 | babilen | Elec_A: ^^^ |
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| 22:17.52 | ZetaNeta | babilen, You propagand non-free software :D |
| 22:18.11 | Elec_A | babilen : i have Intel Core i7 |
| 22:18.21 | justaguy | Hi, I want to install debian minimal @ a pc at my home but i can't find the iso without netinstall |
| 22:18.49 | babilen | ZetaNeta: IMHO there is a huge difference between installing firmware and microcode and non-free software. It is, indeed, a shame that many people are forced to install packages from non-free only to use their hardware. |
| 22:18.51 | ZetaNeta | Elec_A, I have a intel pentium D, Intel Pentium 4, Intel Core i7 and etc |
| 22:19.02 | babilen | ZetaNeta: either way, lets not have this discussion in this channel but focux on support in here. |
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| 22:19.33 | babilen | Elec_A: Okay, in that case also install the intel-microcode package. |
| 22:19.42 | ZetaNeta | babilen, I am just joking here. Yet, in my opinion any software is free, but its out of the scope even of this joke |
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| 22:20.20 | ZetaNeta | "You bios doesnt update microcode on start up? Then we are comming to you!" |
| 22:20.32 | justaguy | So, where can i find that iso? |
| 22:21.09 | Elec_A | babilen: thank you very much :) . |
| 22:21.28 | babilen | ZetaNeta: Please, lets try to focus on support in here. If you want to chat take it to #defocus or #debian-offtopic. |
| 22:22.07 | ZetaNeta | babilen, I know where i should take it. It just looks like its maybe fun to mix support and fun for a little :3 |
| 22:22.09 | mtn | justaguy: just what are you looking for? As far as I know, the netinstall is the most minimal iso. |
| 22:22.20 | babilen | Elec_A: You are most welcome, you have to reboot your system in this case so that it can enable hardware support. You might also want to install drivers for your nvidia card -- Read https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers to learn how to do this. |
| 22:22.26 | mtn | justaguy: had a good look around the website? |
| 22:22.33 | justaguy | yes |
| 22:22.34 | babilen | ZetaNeta: No, we have offtopic channels. So please. |
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| 22:23.00 | ZetaNeta | babilen, Okay. Now fix my problem with a display settings! |
| 22:23.05 | babilen | justaguy: What do you mean "without netinstall" ? What's wrong with the netinstall image? |
| 22:23.14 | mtn | justaguy: I repeat, what are you looking for? |
| 22:23.21 | babilen | ZetaNeta: No, thank you. |
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| 22:23.40 | justaguy | No idea how to install with netinstall |
| 22:23.45 | ZetaNeta | babilen, So polite..... British? |
| 22:24.00 | justaguy | (it's a 2005 PC) |
| 22:24.02 | mtn | justaguy: have you tried? what is the problem with netinstall? |
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| 22:24.29 | justaguy | Well lets try it |
| 22:24.33 | ZetaNeta | justaguy, I didnt read the entire what you sad |
| 22:24.43 | ZetaNeta | But if you need to netboot on a machine without it |
| 22:24.50 | ZetaNeta | try burning a PloP |
| 22:24.56 | babilen | justaguy: You can use *every* image to install as large or as minimal a system as you would like. (It really just depends on your package selection during the tasksel step). So if you would be so kind to tell us why you think that the netinstall image isn't suitable for you that would be much appreciated. |
| 22:24.58 | Elec_A | babilen: thank you , but installing Nvidia was a headache for me, because Nvidia do not support Optimus in linux and every time i faced with Xorg problems :( |
| 22:25.08 | justaguy | thanks babilen ! |
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| 22:26.27 | babilen | Elec_A: Ah, oh yeah .. optimus is a problem indeed. I am, unfortunately, also not well versed in supporting it as I quite intentionally didn't buy Optimus hardware. We do package bumblebee though and you can install that from wheezy-backports. AFAIK some people made good experiences with it. |
| 22:26.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell Elec_A about bumblebee |
| 22:27.14 | justaguy | Damn i remember when i used irssi for the first time , my friends were shouting "Hé there is an easter egg in irssi! You need to do /disco enable_leds , and then i disconnected because /disco = /disconnect |
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| 22:27.51 | babilen | justaguy: hehe, I like it. Feel free to join #debian-offtopic if you want to continue chatting :) |
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| 22:46.36 | failmastah | hey guys, i've just prepared my external hdd as installation source according to installation manual (cp netinst.iso /dev/hdd) but somehow after choosing "Expert install" i have the only option as for installation media - "detect and mount cd-rom" which is frustrating, what am i doing wrong? |
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| 22:49.52 | failmastah | so basically i assumed it is a netinst image, so why it even wants to search for cd at all |
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| 22:52.04 | babilen | failmastah: It simply loads the components from the "CD" |
| 22:52.15 | babilen | failmastah: Can't you go ahead with the installation? |
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| 22:53.02 | failmastah | babilen, nope, the only option for source is cd, and it says that cd-rom drive contains a cd which cannot be used for installation |
| 22:53.14 | failmastah | however, the goal was to install from net |
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| 22:53.58 | failmastah | i suspect that if i havn't missed something, it a reason for bug report... or not? |
| 22:54.23 | babilen | hmm, too tired to debug this now. If you can't get help here you could take it to #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net ... not sure what you've done wrong, but booting from USB worked for me and a lot of other people. |
| 22:54.31 | babilen | sorry, but its late. Good luck! |
| 22:55.10 | justaguy | good night babilen |
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| 23:01.01 | Scriptonaut | hey guys, so I found the firmware I need to get my wireless card to work. Could somebody explain exactly how I incorporate it into the installation process since I won't have internet to begin with? |
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| 23:01.26 | Scriptonaut | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-b43-installer |
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| 23:05.59 | Elec_A | sorry , does anybody have Server mirros list in a file , i want to check fastest server with netselect |
| 23:06.01 | Elec_A | ? |
| 23:07.21 | babilen | Elec_A: http.debian.net selects the fastest/best mirror automagically for you -- see http://http.debian.net for details. |
| 23:08.34 | babilen | Elec_A: netselect is typically not working very well. If you don't want to use http.debian.net use a mirror in your country's rotation (e.g. ftp.uk.debian.org, ftp.au.debian.org, ftp.tw,debian.org, ftp.us.debian.org, ...) or a specific one from the list at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 23:09.00 | Elec_A | babilen : thank you (y) :D |
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| 23:14.33 | max192mb | is it safe to delete the contents of /var/lib/dpkg/info/ ? just the contents, not the dir itself |
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| 23:17.35 | musca | max192mb: why would you want that? |
| 23:18.02 | peterrooney | max192mb: no. |
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| 23:28.32 | suigeneris | netstat: no support for `AF INET (tcp)' on this system. <--- how can I load the kernel module? |
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| 23:30.24 | Golbery | Hello folks! |
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| 23:37.38 | justaguy | hi |
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| 23:41.50 | justaguy | How many times a day do you guys get brute force attacks on your SSH |
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| 23:44.29 | dondelelcaro | justaguy: that's what fail2ban or similar is for |
| 23:44.52 | justaguy | i know :p |
| 23:45.18 | failmastah | portsentry also could be a good idea |
| 23:45.39 | failmastah | sometimes botnets are looking for ssh in a weird ways |
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| 23:45.58 | justaguy | i once did an expiriment with a cheap server and i chosed "password" as password |
| 23:46.11 | justaguy | in 24 hours it was just full of shit |
| 23:46.35 | volko | is there some way to add a dpkg-trigger that will fire for every package? |
| 23:46.53 | volko | there are a couple empty triggers like Lock |
| 23:46.54 | volko | that seem |
| 23:47.02 | Brigo | justaguy: my server: http://paste.debian.net/23338/ |
| 23:47.05 | volko | er, seem like they're always run |
| 23:48.09 | justaguy | Brigo: I always go to http://www.abuseipdb.com/ and report them :p |
| 23:48.21 | justaguy | just because of : bored |
| 23:48.26 | dondelelcaro | volko: what do you want to do? triggers generally aren't the right solution for things which are not packages |
| 23:48.28 | failmastah | justaguy, did u try to see which kind of boxes some of those botnets use? i was lucky to catch tv recievers and a couple of tvs! |
| 23:49.16 | volko | yea, the end goal is to have an unprivileged program check the status of apt |
| 23:49.28 | justaguy | Yeah failmastah i even went into some of those noob places and shouted .unistall |
| 23:49.31 | justaguy | all bots gone |
| 23:49.40 | volko | this system has an automatic timeout and logout, but if it happens during an apt upgrade, it screws things up |
| 23:49.44 | dondelelcaro | volko: the status in what way? |
| 23:50.01 | dondelelcaro | volko: why not run the apt upgrade in a screen or similar? |
| 23:50.04 | volko | to check if it is in the middle of an install/upgrade |
| 23:50.18 | volko | because we're using the upgrade GUI |
| 23:50.24 | dondelelcaro | ick |
| 23:50.25 | volko | this is not for command line level users |
| 23:50.28 | volko | yea, I know :/ |
| 23:50.38 | justaguy | but failmastah isn't it ridiculous that even a TV can get infected |
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| 23:51.01 | volko | but since it's unprivileged it can't check the file locks that dpkg opens |
| 23:51.11 | dondelelcaro | volko: anyway, you can pretty easily check to see if dpkg or apt has a lock out, and not stop if that's the csae |
| 23:51.11 | volko | as those files are root owned read only |
| 23:51.22 | dondelelcaro | volko: yes, but if the lock exists, you can assume that dpkg is running |
| 23:51.25 | volko | dondelelcaro: can't, those files are protected |
| 23:51.30 | failmastah | justaguy, recent conference in vegas already showed that next victims are modern cars |
| 23:51.33 | volko | it leaves the lock files in place afterwards |
| 23:52.00 | justaguy | rofl |
| 23:52.03 | dondelelcaro | volko: right, but you can check the lock time, and see whether there is a dpkg process or an apt process running |
| 23:52.29 | Brigo | interesting portsentry blocks last ip 11/21/2012 |
| 23:52.41 | Brigo | it blocks 449 ips. |
| 23:52.48 | themill | the time on /var/lib/dpkg/lock doesn't change when apt is holding the lock |
| 23:52.48 | justaguy | failmastah: what's next, malware infections on my little bike computer |
| 23:53.21 | failmastah | justaguy, i bet my microwave oven |
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| 23:55.12 | dondelelcaro | themill: you mean /var/lib/apt/lists/lock, but yes... |
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| 23:55.42 | Elec_A | sorry , i have problem with my server download speed ! my bandwidth is 512kb/s but my speed is around 20kb/s . |
| 23:56.10 | Elec_A | *download speed is around 20kb/s |
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| 23:56.38 | dondelelcaro | volko: and if that's not workable, you can also use the apt configuration options DPkg::Pre-Invoke and Dpkg::Post-Invoke, though that'll only stop it while there is a lock out for dpkg |
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| 23:57.47 | dondelelcaro | (and finally, you could do something crazy, like diverting /usr/bin/apt-get and sticking a shell script in its place which wrote to a file and then removed it) |
| 23:57.59 | phunyguy | help.. :( I am trying to install Wheezy on a Mac Air (2011 model I think?) The minimal install starts up, and as it goes to configure the network before actually starting the install, it hangs... |
| 23:58.14 | phunyguy | ...not entirely sure why |
| 23:58.35 | phunyguy | looks like a hard crash also. |
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| 23:59.45 | Brigo | phunyguy: https://wiki.debian.org/MacBookAir4%2C2Testimonial |
