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| 00:03.24 | tharkun | I need to unpack a source deb file what is the right tool for the job? |
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| 00:03.55 | themill | tharkun: a source package? or a deb file? |
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| 00:04.12 | tharkun | themill: a deb file that has the source of the program |
| 00:04.31 | themill | if it's a .deb then you can just install it. |
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| 00:05.06 | themill | Or at worst, extract it to some other directory dpkg -x foo.deb /tmp/blah |
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| 00:06.47 | tharkun | themill: Thanks, but then If I am to debug a .deb file I need to know how to unpack it and see what is breaking the process. Then again Thanks for you time. |
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| 00:10.11 | Aivaras | Also one more thing - I have no permissions to do anything with networks on nm-applet. "Not authorized to Disconnect connections" |
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| 00:14.28 | tharkun | themill: BTW If I wanted to compile some source from ubuntu on debian what extra caveats should I be aware besides the usual? |
| 00:15.06 | themill | Build-deps might not be right and versioned dependencies in d/control might not be right. |
| 00:16.16 | tharkun | themill: Thanks, IIRC there is a way to query one of the bots for that type of information. Am I right or is it just a good wish? |
| 00:16.30 | tharkun | dependencies and stuff like that |
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| 00:18.25 | dragon__ | what certs/keys should i create for a server? |
| 00:19.22 | dragon__ | www, ftp, mail (imap, smtp)? |
| 00:19.25 | james41382 | Zykotick9: Okay I guess that makes sense. |
| 00:20.34 | tharkun | dragon__: The ones you will actually use. |
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| 00:44.15 | sim590 | Hi. I'm having a problem. I use lightdm and I thought that it would source /etc/X11/Xsession so I could source my ~/.profile (because it doesn't by default), but it doesn't even source /etc/X11/Xsession. What can I do? |
| 00:45.18 | sim590 | what's funny is that I have "session-wrapper=/etc/X11/Xsession" in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.. So I thought that it would source it but it doesn't seem to |
| 00:45.36 | sim590 | I placed "touch /tmp/file" in Xsession and it didn't create the file so.. |
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| 00:51.48 | ex-parrot | anyone running apparmor on wheezy seeing "network rules not enforced" warnings? |
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| 00:53.01 | sim590 | no idea about my problem? |
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| 00:55.04 | davexunit | hey everyone. just did a fresh install of debian wheezy. I have /, /boot, and /home partitions. Grub installed to the MBR of the disk but upon restarting I am faced with the grub rescue prompt. "error: file `/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found." |
| 00:57.05 | davexunit | has anyone encountered this before? from what I can gather after a quick search, grub thinks I am using EFI which I am not. |
| 00:57.26 | dvs | davexunit: I have a "/grub/normal.mod" file (no i386-pc directory) |
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| 00:59.37 | davexunit | this was a 64 bit install too, fyi. |
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| 01:00.35 | davexunit | I'm pretty confused. the installation went so smoothly... until this. |
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| 01:02.46 | dvs | davexunit: Sounds easy to me: press "e" at the GRUB menu and take out the i386-pc part of the directory name. |
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| 01:05.03 | davexunit | dvs: okay I will try that. my knowledge of grub is very minimal. |
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| 01:05.56 | davexunit | dvs: unfortunately, I can't even get to the menu. I get thrown right into the grub rescue prompt |
| 01:07.01 | dvs | davexunit: I don't know enough to fill in grub from scratch. |
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| 01:07.58 | davexunit | dvs: okay. thanks for trying to help. :) |
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| 01:14.18 | peterrooney | davexunit: /msg dpkg fixmbr ; /msg dpkg grub |
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| 01:20.50 | davexunit | peterrooney: thanks |
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| 01:21.02 | dvs | it worked?!? |
| 01:21.27 | davexunit | trying it now |
| 01:22.39 | davexunit | booting my install cd back up\ |
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| 01:33.54 | davexunit | I'm having trouble mounting drives from busybox |
| 01:34.32 | ZIPY | how can i repair grub2 on an lvm + encrypted harddrive? |
| 01:34.35 | davexunit | I get no such file or directory errors when trying to mount to /mnt |
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| 01:34.44 | parcs | hello |
| 01:34.58 | parcs | how does one install and boot a kernel from source? |
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| 01:43.41 | davexunit | the information from dpkg fix-mbr worked! |
| 01:43.52 | davexunit | fixmbr, rather |
| 01:44.02 | davexunit | peterrooney: thanks!! |
| 01:44.12 | davexunit | I'm back in business. |
| 01:44.55 | parcs | aha, make deb-pkg should do the trick |
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| 02:01.43 | peterrooney | davexunit: dpkg knows nearly everything. any time I have a Q, /msg dpkg listkeys <keyword> works wonders. |
| 02:02.49 | dvs | !meaning of life |
| 02:02.50 | dpkg | Oh, tricky! I can come up with it... but... it'll take me a little while... can you come back in 3.7 million years? |
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| 02:05.03 | peterrooney | !listkeys |
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| 02:06.01 | Th0masR0ss | !turn into a robot and make me cookies |
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| 02:08.16 | doebi | sooo.. what to do if a bat sleeps beneath my desk? |
| 02:08.55 | dvs | !confuse doebi |
| 02:08.56 | dpkg | No, them was their gerbil today, doebi? Lederhosen of the Democracy of Belarus with extra anchovies. |
| 02:08.58 | Th0masR0ss | Wear runner gloves, grab it and throw it out the window |
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| 02:10.12 | poorrick | I want to install the propietary nvidia driver, but blacklisting nouveau and restarting gives me a blank console |
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| 02:16.29 | Lectus | Hello! I have a question about debian. If I install Debian stable and then do an upgrade to testing, is it safe? Or can it break something? |
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| 02:17.34 | dvs | Lectus: That is the recommended way |
| 02:18.26 | Lectus | dvs: thanks for the answer |
| 02:18.53 | dvs | np |
| 02:19.36 | elkingrey | I want to open the Public Sharing Folder in my home folder for other people in my LAN, but my firewall is currently preventing me. I don't want to disable the firewall completely. I only want to poke a hole in the right spot so other people in my LAN can access my shared folder. How do I do that? |
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| 02:27.37 | z8z | Easy question: why debian changed from having 7/8 DVD as packages to 3? |
| 02:28.23 | dvs | z8z: They have more DVDs but you have to download it using jigdo. |
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| 02:30.36 | z8z | dvs: ???? Why ? They don't provide the torrent anymore? |
| 02:30.40 | peterrooney | z8z: reason: the first dvd covers 90% of what people will use, the first and second cover 99% of what people will use... |
| 02:31.21 | peterrooney | z8z: torrents are still available. |
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| 02:32.16 | z8z | peterrooney: i can see only first 3 dvd |
| 02:32.38 | z8z | peterrooney: no torrent for other 7? |
| 02:33.36 | bullgard4 | What is meant by »wheezy-updates« in https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList? |
| 02:34.34 | dvs | bullgard4: wheezy-updates used to be volitile |
| 02:35.27 | bullgard4 | dvs: I d not know what used to be "volatile" either. I know the term "volatile" in common English though. |
| 02:36.05 | dvs | bullgard4: it's a repo where packages are frequently updated. |
| 02:36.26 | dvs | like virus signatures |
| 02:36.35 | bullgard4 | Ah! |
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| 02:42.04 | z8z | peterrooney: really can't find torrents.... and also i'm reading that jigdo development has stopped? |
| 02:43.02 | dvs | z8z: just because development has stopped doesn't mean it doesn't work. |
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| 02:43.51 | z8z | dvs: lol i know but even using unsupported software makes no sense.... anyway.... which is the concept behind jidgo? |
| 02:44.17 | dvs | !jigdo |
| 02:44.17 | dpkg | Jigsaw Download (jigdo) is *the* method for downloading CD/DVD/BD images of Debian. See "Downloading Debian CD images with jigdo" at http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ . http://wiki.debian.org/jigdo http://atterer.org/jigdo/ |
| 02:44.30 | dvs | pfft. That was helpful. |
| 02:44.30 | z8z | dvs: is that better and safer that torrent? |
| 02:44.41 | funkster | is anyone familiar with cups/gutenprint in here. im having a 25-30 second delay with i issue a lp command to print a image. any advise would be appreciated. |
| 02:45.09 | dvs | z8z: It uses the regular debian repos to cobble a DVD image together. |
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| 03:15.46 | james41382 | z-y-k |
| 03:15.49 | james41382 | oops |
| 03:16.02 | james41382 | oh i see.. |
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| 03:24.08 | james41382 | Does anyone how to change the , to a : when using autocomplete in xchat? |
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| 03:38.38 | erm3nda | Hi! im the guy with the wm8505 debian smartbook :( |
| 03:38.47 | erm3nda | no way to get mysql-server running |
| 03:39.25 | erm3nda | i check also http://devio.us/~nextvolume/via_arm/viewtopic.php?id=4&t_id=79 but still no luck |
| 03:40.08 | erm3nda | can anyone guide me into the right way to find where is causing it? Im sure it can work into that machine, but no sure why mine not. So thx ;) |
| 03:40.35 | erm3nda | Hi mumpitzel :) |
| 03:41.41 | erm3nda | your nick seems hard to remember, but isn't |
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| 03:47.58 | themill | erm3nda: in what way does mysql-server not work? What have you tried? Is this a fresh install or an upgrade? |
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| 03:57.26 | Skaag | what does colord do? do I really need it if all I'm doing with X is running a full screen browser, chromeless? |
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| 04:01.51 | erm3nda | themill: srry :( just switching into that and -es channel :) |
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| 04:02.24 | erm3nda | its a fresh install. because i have not interntet into that pc, im using deb packages of version 5.1 |
| 04:02.34 | symb0l | what's the name of the package that indexes header files in non-downloaded packages? |
| 04:02.38 | erm3nda | http://devio.us/~nextvolume/via_arm/viewtopic.php?id=4&t_id=79 I check that and no lucky |
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| 04:04.49 | Rusty1 | symb0l: apt-xapian perhaps ? |
| 04:05.23 | symb0l | Rusty1, hmmm |
| 04:05.29 | symb0l | I seem to remember find or finder in the program name |
| 04:05.56 | symb0l | takes a while to run when setting up because it downloads a bunch of stuff ... |
| 04:06.19 | themill | apt-file? |
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| 04:09.10 | jmcnaught | erm3nda: are the deb packages you're using for the version of debian installed on the computer? |
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| 04:13.08 | jmcnaught | erm3nda: from your link it seems the computer has wifi and ethernet. install the packages the regular way using apt-get or aptitude, when it's connected to the internet. |
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| 04:18.25 | erm3nda | <jmcnaught>: srry. I have not internet into the machine. Im using usb thetering wuth usb into laptop, and shared with eth0 to netbook. I can ping it, but it cannot resolve dns even i configured |
| 04:18.33 | erm3nda | so, no Internet for it today :) |
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| 04:19.06 | erm3nda | maybe i can disconnect from AC and use wifi using it some rooms far away :) |
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| 04:21.01 | jmcnaught | erm3nda: it's a lot easier to install software in debian when you're connected to the internet. you may also need to do updates |
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| 04:23.24 | erm3nda | <jmcnaught> I do some days ago, using apt-get. i try install 5.5 but same error |
| 04:23.39 | erm3nda | the problem is not how to install |
| 04:23.49 | jmcnaught | what is the error? |
| 04:23.51 | erm3nda | is about the problem that trhows |
| 04:24.19 | erm3nda | throws, srry, i have a vry bad english, even more at this time :) |
| 04:25.02 | erm3nda | invoke-rc.d initscript mysql, actions "start" failed |
| 04:25.12 | erm3nda | dpkg: error processig mysql-server-5.1 (--instal) |
| 04:25.12 | dpkg | erm3nda: are you using Windows? |
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| 04:25.28 | erm3nda | subprocess installed post-installatino script returned error exit status 1 |
| 04:25.33 | jmcnaught | erm3nda: ignore dpkg, it's a bot |
| 04:25.53 | erm3nda | i know, some use it a day to tell me sometingh about repos |
| 04:26.00 | erm3nda | dpkg, fuck you :) |
| 04:26.00 | dpkg | erm3nda: i haven't a clue |
| 04:26.08 | erm3nda | the buy it :) |
| 04:26.32 | erm3nda | dont know usage about tell function for the bot :( |
| 04:27.08 | jmcnaught | so is that the same error you got with mysql-server 5.5 packages in the wheezy repository? |
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| 04:28.43 | jmcnaught | erm3nda: i think folks would rather you don't teach the bot how to curse :) |
| 04:28.47 | erm3nda | same error |
| 04:29.10 | mumpitzel | erm3nda: check your mysql.log and maybe syslog |
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| 04:29.29 | themill | erm3nda: exactly which release of debian are you using? |
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| 04:29.52 | Buttons840 | whats the best way to change the LD_LIBRARY_PATH system wide? |
| 04:30.21 | erm3nda | Im using a rare arm debian package. Link is http://projectproto.blogspot.com.es/2012/01/debian-wheezy-on-wm8505.html |
| 04:30.35 | erm3nda | YUS3.0 kernel precompiled for my chipset |
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| 04:30.57 | erm3nda | they say debian wheezy, wich is 7, but i think its lenny, due to date |
| 04:31.18 | themill | That sounds like a scary mess. |
| 04:31.24 | erm3nda | Hi mumpitzel, here we go :) |
| 04:31.33 | erm3nda | can you teach me to use the tail function to read log? |
| 04:31.57 | jmcnaught | erm3nda: it probably is wheezy if mysql-server 5.5 was in the repo. where did you get the 5.1 packages? |
| 04:32.07 | mumpitzel | tail -f <file> |
| 04:32.28 | erm3nda | from debian directly, armel version of the packages |
| 04:32.41 | erm3nda | i can install the others, like common, core, client, etc, but mysl-server not |
| 04:33.07 | erm3nda | tail is a red function itself? i think was a pipe option |
| 04:33.16 | erm3nda | red = read |
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| 04:33.45 | adh0c | Has anyone ever updated a kernel from within a xen guest VM before? |
| 04:33.59 | adh0c | Not sure how to configure the bootloader to boot from the new image. |
| 04:34.03 | mumpitzel | erm3nda: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" please |
| 04:36.09 | erm3nda | i got mysl.log, mysql.err ... searching :) |
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| 04:39.25 | aussa | hi, when I plug an usb drive, I mount it myself since it's not automounting. I can then read its contents, but I can not write in it, I've looked online and read about adding "-o rw" to the mount command, but it didn't work. I also tried to write as root and it did not work either, any solution? |
| 04:41.01 | erm3nda | mumpitzel, today no internet for the arm :( |
| 04:41.21 | erm3nda | when i say lenny, must say squeezy... so confused about names :) |
| 04:42.15 | erm3nda | no internet for arm, and i remember the last try about apt-cache was fail |
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| 04:49.22 | Buttons840 | i have a library version 2, but a program complains that it needs version 1 -- i tried symlinking library.so.1 to the version 2 library, but ldconfig ignores the symlink -- i was able to get the program running after i set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH however; so I'm wondering what's the best way to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH system wide? |
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| 05:00.22 | erm3nda | <mumpitzel : mmm if you will be here a little more, i can use battery to get wifi near here to paste apt-cache policy |
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| 05:00.45 | erm3nda | how i can make that, i dont remember from last day |
| 05:01.42 | mumpitzel | !pastebinit |
| 05:01.42 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: squeeze users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 05:02.03 | mumpitzel | Buttons840: /etc/environment perhaps? |
| 05:02.43 | Buttons840 | mumpitzel: how does that differ from a /etc/profile.d/ script? |
| 05:03.15 | mumpitzel | not much |
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| 05:03.40 | erm3nda | mumpitzel, i use dmesg but no one related from mysql.log |
| 05:03.55 | mumpitzel | what has dmesg to do with mysql? |
| 05:04.04 | erm3nda | read log? |
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| 05:04.55 | erm3nda | i have no data about mysql when using dmesg. must i do anyway?? |
| 05:05.36 | mumpitzel | no you don't. dmesg shows kernel output. no application logs |
| 05:05.48 | erm3nda | note : you ask about where i download. I used http://packages.debian.org/search?arch=armel&keywords=mysql-server for download 5.1 version in order to try some other tan 5.5 again and again |
| 05:05.48 | mumpitzel | you confuse two totally different things. |
| 05:06.00 | erm3nda | sure :( im a bit noob |
| 05:06.17 | erm3nda | as i see, mysql is installed |
| 05:06.20 | erm3nda | but doesnt start |
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| 05:06.37 | mumpitzel | so you are mixing debian releases. that's why it breaks. don't do it. remove the broken mysql-server and only use wheezy packages |
| 05:06.45 | erm3nda | i ckech theese things and nothing. http://devio.us/~nextvolume/via_arm/viewtopic.php?id=4&t_id=79 |
| 05:06.52 | mumpitzel | you cannot mix releases |
| 05:06.58 | erm3nda | tell me 1 more time if i have to pastebin my dmesg |
| 05:07.15 | erm3nda | i get same error when installing 5.5 from apt-get |
| 05:07.24 | mumpitzel | I never ever once said you should pastebin the dmesg output. please read more carefully in the future. |
| 05:07.56 | erm3nda | aha, i will try right now |
| 05:08.20 | erm3nda | theres a difference between arm and armel? i read armel is littel-endian annotation |
| 05:08.25 | mumpitzel | remove all mysql* packages with dpkg and purge them too |
| 05:08.31 | mumpitzel | yes there is |
| 05:08.32 | erm3nda | but really not sure about mine |
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| 05:10.26 | mumpitzel | dpkg --print-architecture |
| 05:10.27 | dpkg | gothic |
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| 05:10.32 | orangesky | hey guys, I'm trying to install livescript using npm, but I can't use the "lsc" command unless I use sudo. how can I make it usable by my normal user account? |
| 05:10.38 | erm3nda | uname -arch? |
| 05:11.01 | mumpitzel | orangesky: error message? |
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| 05:11.24 | erm3nda | armel |
| 05:11.24 | orangesky | mumpitzel: no error message at all, the terminal just ignores my input |
| 05:11.35 | mumpitzel | !details |
| 05:11.36 | dpkg | If you want help on a topic, you HAVE to say more than "it doesn't work, help!" or else you'll get no help whatsoever. Give as many details as you can or else no one can give any suggestions. For most questions, you should at least give your arch (i386 for most people), your Debian <version>, and your kernel version. Give exact error messages where applicable. |
| 05:11.52 | erm3nda | how can i check the distro right version/name? |
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| 05:12.19 | orangesky | mumpitzel: I'd love to give you the error message, but there's none |
| 05:12.31 | mumpitzel | erm3nda: I gave you a command to run |
| 05:12.41 | mumpitzel | orangesky: something happens when you start it. something |
| 05:12.54 | erm3nda | i got armel |
| 05:13.02 | mumpitzel | now you know |
| 05:13.04 | erm3nda | now i want to check if its wheezy or squeezy |
| 05:13.09 | LtL | erm3nda: try, lsb_release -a |
| 05:13.14 | erm3nda | because i cannot se into uname -a cmd |
| 05:13.36 | orangesky | mumpitzel: it doesn't start. nothing happens, the terminal just asks for my next input, like I pressed ENTER or something. however, if I use sudo, the application runs |
| 05:13.46 | erm3nda | slb_release -a not found |
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| 05:15.20 | catsup | well |
| 05:15.40 | mumpitzel | orangesky: then something happens after all. the program ends |
| 05:15.42 | erm3nda | i think i have Debian arm5 armel pikachu version :) |
| 05:15.51 | catsup | i just added a huge attack vector into my browser to work around a google revenue-generating strategy that somehow made its way into debian's repos |
| 05:16.09 | catsup | (installed tampermonkey for chromium) |
| 05:16.19 | Vicissitude | what does it do? |
| 05:16.20 | catsup | i'm pretty pissed off at debian for letting google do this |
| 05:16.21 | mumpitzel | "added a attack vector"? |
| 05:16.37 | mumpitzel | catsup: hire on the next star trek movie. they need more technobabblers |
| 05:16.48 | catsup | i just wanted to install a userscript to modify google searches to get rid of the google.com linkback |
| 05:16.49 | orangesky | mumpitzel: I could try to find the script through it's path and then use chmod, perhaps? |
| 05:16.58 | catsup | but you can't do that |
| 05:17.00 | mumpitzel | orangesky: no |
| 05:17.11 | catsup | because debian's chromium has a built-in google monopoly on extension installs |
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| 05:17.24 | Vicissitude | catsup, use startpage.com or duckduckgo.com instead |
| 05:17.26 | catsup | why would debian hard-code a google monopoly into free software?? |
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| 05:17.35 | catsup | Vicissitude: that's not the point |
| 05:17.50 | catsup | i want to just install a script from userscript.org |
| 05:18.04 | catsup | but in order to do it, i have to give an automatically externally updating extension full access to everything in my browser |
| 05:18.10 | catsup | i _read_ the source code of the script, it is harmless |
| 05:19.02 | catsup | but i can't just install that. no, because of google's supposed "security" (really: monopoly) policy, i have to grant the browser's equivalent of root access to a huge extension whose source i can't practicably read |
| 05:19.27 | catsup | now, i have no idea whether this thing is harmless, or will remain so |
| 05:19.28 | themill | catsup: please file a bug preferably with a patch on how to do this in a way that doesn't allow any site to install any script. |
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| 05:19.46 | catsup | themill: what we need to do is just remove google from the whitelist |
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| 05:19.51 | mutante | shouldn't sid and experimental be the same" as in apt-get -t sid ... vs. apt-get -t experimental |
| 05:19.54 | catsup | then the problem will work it out |
| 05:19.57 | catsup | work itself out |
| 05:19.58 | orangesky_ | mumpitzel: sorry, something happened |
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| 05:20.02 | mutante | as long as my sources have either one |
| 05:20.09 | catsup | otherwise, google will succeed inkeeping the monopoly |
| 05:20.10 | orangesky_ | mumpitzel: did you think of something? |
| 05:20.12 | themill | mutante: no, experimental and sid are different repositories |
| 05:20.19 | themill | catsup: irc is not for bug reports. |
| 05:20.21 | mutante | aarg, my bad,, thanks |
| 05:20.23 | catsup | there needs to be a hard-line: if there's a whitelist, _especially_ in source code, google can't be on it |
| 05:20.26 | mutante | themill: oki |
| 05:20.29 | catsup | this isn't a bug report |
| 05:20.29 | Rixius | Hello, Got my lappy running Debian Wheezy, working on backporting awesome now. :D Wish me luck. |
| 05:20.35 | catsup | you just told me to file a bug report |
| 05:20.37 | themill | catsup: and rants go in /dev/null |
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| 05:21.01 | catsup | themill: apparently not |
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| 05:21.12 | mumpitzel | orangesky_: you could strace it normally it's either a permission denied issue on some file or a path issue. strace could help with the permissions part |
| 05:22.42 | themill | catsup: seriously -- #debian can answer user questions about installing and configuring packages. If packages need changing, then the bugs need to be file in the bts. If philosophical issues need discussing then that is done on the debian-project mailing list. If you want to blow off steam, please do it to your pet, to a mirror or to an accepting character device. |
| 05:23.13 | catsup | themill: your /dev/null seems to be malfunctioning, perhaps you need mknod |
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| 05:28.40 | Rixius | So far, seems to have compiled flawlessly. installing xorg now. :D |
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| 05:31.08 | Rixius | Yeah, now all that's left is getting it configured prettily. :D |
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| 05:52.00 | erm3nda | mumpitzel: Installing the right packages: armel mysql5 for wheezy. if not, next step will be move to get internet and try online repos |
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| 05:52.10 | erm3nda | how i can get again the respot from the dpkg bot? |
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| 05:52.41 | erm3nda | i do! :) |
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| 05:52.51 | erm3nda | respos! |
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| 05:55.21 | mumpitzel | erm3nda: uninstall and purge the broken things first |
| 05:55.34 | mumpitzel | !tell erm3nda about msgthebot |
| 05:56.53 | erm3nda | i do with --purge |
| 05:56.58 | i336_ | Hi. I'd like to try debian on an ARM PDA, but I think removing the PDA's CF card while Linux is running is going to seriously upset a few things (like /). I'd like to install a few packages on that machine but want to do all the dependancy tracking on here so I can copy *everything* over at once. I'm using Slackware 12.2 |
| 05:57.03 | i336_ | is this possible? |
| 05:57.20 | erm3nda | i do also the msg to bot using repos! :) .. at first try :) weeeee! thx man |
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| 05:57.42 | erm3nda | youre a little light guiding me :) |
| 05:58.16 | mumpitzel | i336_: are you running debian on this arm pda right now? |
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| 05:58.33 | i336_ | I am, but it doesn't have apt installed |
| 05:58.40 | i336_ | notes that said PDA has 16MB of RAM |
| 05:58.45 | i336_ | (it's an Ericsson MC218) |
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| 05:58.59 | mumpitzel | i336_: what debian is this that you haven't got apt? |
| 05:59.13 | mumpitzel | and how did you install debian? |
| 05:59.14 | i336_ | grabs URL |
| 05:59.16 | erm3nda | !16M what can you do with that? srry for intromission :) |
| 05:59.23 | i336_ | hm |
| 05:59.25 | i336_ | X? :> |
| 06:00.15 | erm3nda | XYZ :( |
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| 06:00.29 | i336_ | lol |
| 06:00.58 | erm3nda | really Linux is unveliable about resources :) |
| 06:01.00 | i336_ | mumpitzel: http://ajwells.net/ |
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| 06:02.07 | erm3nda | the minimal gui version of windows uses at least 32mb only for stay in and does really nothing |
| 06:02.17 | i336_ | which version? |
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| 06:02.56 | erm3nda | mmm, let me see it |
| 06:03.00 | erm3nda | wait |
| 06:03.07 | i336_ | ? |
| 06:03.08 | mumpitzel | i336_: this is not debian |
| 06:03.16 | i336_ | oh?! O.o |
| 06:03.32 | i336_ | the download link is at the bottom of the page |
| 06:03.40 | i336_ | then it's like "here's woody, and here's etch" |
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| 06:04.22 | mumpitzel | "Packages can be installed from the Debian Sarge packages with varying degrees of success." "The previous version of kludged linux" |
| 06:04.30 | mumpitzel | kludged linux != debian linux |
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| 06:05.17 | i336_ | oh |
| 06:05.22 | i336_ | well, it uses debian packages...? |
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| 06:05.43 | xai | .ц 4 |
| 06:05.51 | xai | whoops, sorry |
| 06:06.28 | erm3nda | im not sure if you ask me about win ver: i336_> which version? |
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| 06:07.29 | i336_ | erm3nda: well, I use win98 on a 32MB laptop and it works... for simple things |
| 06:07.29 | i336_ | :P |
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| 06:10.02 | erm3nda | them win98 sure is better than the version i say |
| 06:10.12 | erm3nda | http://www.taringa.net/comunidades/paraguayosent/2315316/Windows-xP-LIVE-2009-BOOT-USB-para-arrancar-con-pen-etc.html |
| 06:10.19 | erm3nda | they say minimal xp |
| 06:10.27 | erm3nda | but haves nothing from xp |
| 06:10.28 | i336_ | ouchhhh |
| 06:10.33 | i336_ | noooo windows xp on this lappy |
| 06:10.34 | i336_ | hahahahhaa |
| 06:10.41 | i336_ | it would take 3 hours to boot to the desktop :D |
| 06:10.49 | erm3nda | is a subsitem with cmd and a stupid vesa menu with few options :) |
| 06:11.04 | erm3nda | your pc look better with 98 :) |
| 06:11.16 | erm3nda | you could try Slitaz distro |
| 06:11.23 | erm3nda | lightweight, ultra... |
| 06:11.26 | i336_ | can haz slackware on the laptop |
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| 06:19.05 | cyrano | hey folks |
| 06:19.23 | cyrano | how can i check if apache2 mod_disk_cache is working? |
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| 06:20.57 | erm3nda | mumpitzel report :) -> I have tried fresh install. First error is due to innodb pool size= 128M. I have at least 75 free. Using --skip-innodb rules and setting myisam as default |
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| 06:32.23 | rwp | cyrano, No idea. You might try the #httpd channel. |
| 06:32.45 | cyrano | rwp: thank you, i'm solved |
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| 06:35.19 | Enchie | Hello all :) |
| 06:35.28 | bhuddah | morning |
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| 06:36.45 | Enchie | I'm about to set up my home server :D just wondering if I can use the netinst with the DVDs as my repositories? :) |
| 06:37.00 | bhuddah | Enchie: i think you can. |
| 06:37.16 | bhuddah | Enchie: is your internet connection that slow? |
| 06:37.25 | Enchie | min bandwidth ;D |
| 06:37.30 | bhuddah | ouch. |
| 06:37.56 | Enchie | yeah sucks to live in South Africa :) |
| 06:38.14 | bhuddah | i'm not sure if you can use it before the first reboot. but after then you should be clear to go. |
| 06:38.33 | Enchie | bhuddah, Do you perhaps know where can i find some info on this? |
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| 06:38.58 | Enchie | ok so like a minimum install and then use synaptic? |
| 06:39.22 | bhuddah | or aptitude.. or apt-get.. alas.. add the dvd's to the sources.list as soon as you can |
| 06:40.26 | Enchie | got it thanks man (: |
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| 06:43.43 | bhuddah | Enchie: np. |
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| 06:54.40 | erm3nda | mumitzel: no way... saving output from apt-cache policy to post into pastebin :) ... will take a while :) |
| 06:54.59 | erm3nda | mumpitzel: read up line :) |
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| 07:06.21 | bocaneri | bin, are you a bot? |
| 07:06.27 | bin | sure |
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| 07:06.41 | bocaneri | What kinds of capabilities do you have? |
| 07:06.49 | bin | spam bocaneri |
| 07:06.56 | bocaneri | Grr. |
| 07:07.04 | bhuddah | it's a breakfast bot |
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| 07:12.36 | ulitkovod | i put the file with iptables rules in /etc/network/if-up/ directory |
| 07:12.48 | ulitkovod | this is the right way? |
| 07:13.22 | bhuddah | ulitkovod: better use iptables-persistent |
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| 07:16.11 | ulitkovod | bhuddah: thanks |
| 07:16.44 | bhuddah | ulitkovod: np. |
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| 07:17.33 | sobersabre | hi guys. |
| 07:18.26 | sobersabre | I've got a monitoring app (zabbix), and it's got web frontend which can be run (without any changes to the app) in apache or nginx. |
| 07:18.41 | sobersabre | It's by default with apache, and I'm running it in nginx. |
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| 07:19.14 | sobersabre | when I'm getting an update to the package, it is trying to restart apache service, which naturally fails to start (b/c nginx it taking its port). |
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| 07:19.37 | Wezired | Ola ikonia bruda |
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| 07:19.54 | mumpitzel | sobersabre: log a bugreport with the maintainer of the package (I presume it's not a debian distributed one) |
| 07:20.03 | sobersabre | 2 questions: 1) is there a debian (civilized) way to ensure the package X upon reconfiguration doesn't use apache, but nginx ? |
| 07:20.21 | Wezired | no. use windows |
| 07:20.25 | ulitkovod | lol |
| 07:20.30 | Wezired | use ms-windows |
| 07:20.35 | sobersabre | 2) what is the right way to organize a package that uses external service to run its files, so it is configurable ? |
| 07:20.40 | ulitkovod | non-debian vandal way |
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| 07:20.54 | sobersabre | mumpitzel: yep, it's not debian distributed package. |
| 07:21.00 | Wezired | ulysses fucka brotha |
| 07:21.16 | mumpitzel | Wezired: do you have a debian related support problem? |
| 07:21.27 | sobersabre | mumpitzel: since when bots have any problems ? |
| 07:22.16 | Wezired | mumpitzel can I help you bro? |
| 07:22.35 | sobersabre | :) it's a human! |
| 07:23.32 | Wezired | Where is my mugs of beer? |
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| 07:25.18 | mumpitzel | Wezired: stop being OT please |
| 07:26.27 | Wezired | Wtf OT? |
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| 07:33.47 | jelly-home | sobersabre: 1) when you have both installed? phpmyadmin has config bits for apache and lighttpd, and uses a debconf question to select which httpd to configure for |
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| 07:35.15 | sobersabre | jelly-home: alright. thanks for the reference! |
| 07:35.22 | wojtas | did smb pass the LPI 101 exam ? |
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| 07:36.17 | Wulf | Hi |
| 07:36.46 | Wulf | in a source package there is debian/patches/, how can I apply the patches to the source tree? |
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| 07:37.18 | mumpitzel | what source package? |
| 07:37.23 | Wulf | mumpitzel: php5 |
| 07:37.55 | mumpitzel | normally the patches should be applied when when you do apt-get source <package> |
| 07:38.17 | jelly-home | that was with old source format |
| 07:38.37 | jelly-home | current one does it at build time |
| 07:38.50 | Wulf | yep, but I don't want to build the package |
| 07:38.55 | Elec_A | hello , today i wanted to remove "roxterm" (Terminal) , so i typed "# apt-get remove roxterm --purge" , it told me roxterm is removed , but still i see roxterm command and i can run it ?!! |
| 07:40.12 | gnarface | Elec_A: maybe because a copy was already open from before you purged? or maybe you have to move --purge before 'remove' |
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| 07:40.17 | jelly-home | Elec_A: which package does the command belong to? |
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| 07:40.31 | gnarface | Elec_A: oh yea, or maybe because it wasn't in a package |
| 07:40.48 | Elec_A | jelly-home : i don't know . what should i do know ? |
| 07:40.49 | gnarface | Elec_A: (or is in a package, but just not the one you thought) |
| 07:40.50 | Wezired | Yes. It's a windows8 |
| 07:41.13 | jelly-home | Elec_A: ls -ld $(which roxterm); dpkg -S $(readlink -f $(which roxterm)) |
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| 07:42.10 | Elec_A | jelly-home : out put is : http://paste.debian.net/23593/ |
| 07:42.33 | jelly-home | Elec_A: the output of dpkg -S is your answer |
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| 07:43.48 | Elec_A | jelly-home : ok , i typed "$ dpkg -S roxterm " , and output is : http://paste.debian.net/23594/ |
| 07:44.17 | Elec_A | what should i do now ? |
| 07:44.30 | Elec_A | delete the files above ? |
| 07:44.42 | jelly-home | Elec_A: no, just remove those packages. |
| 07:45.33 | jelly-home | Elec_A: dpkg -S shows lines "packagename: /path/to/file" |
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| 07:45.51 | Elec_A | in the output list , i see only file paths related to roxterm . no packages. |
| 07:46.18 | jelly-home | Elec_A: each line has something: to the left of a file path. |
| 07:46.31 | Elec_A | aha yes , |
| 07:48.28 | Elec_A | jelly-home : yes , thank you , i removed (and purged) , roxterm-common and roxterm-gtk3 , and everything is ok . |
| 07:48.50 | Elec_A | but may i ask why did this happen ? |
| 07:49.33 | bhuddah | Elec_A: you didn't deinstall it in the first place because you guessed the package name wrong |
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| 07:50.38 | Elec_A | bhuddah : i installed roxterm with "#apt-get install roxterm" and when i wanted to uninstall it i typed "#apt-get remove roxterm --purge" |
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| 07:51.06 | Elec_A | why should some packages do not remove ? |
| 07:51.22 | bhuddah | Elec_A: roxterm is a virtual package |
| 07:51.26 | Elec_A | yes |
| 07:51.31 | bhuddah | it pulled in roxterm-gtk3 |
| 07:51.51 | bhuddah | thats what you have to deinstall. because deinstalling the virtual package will not remove the others again |
| 07:52.29 | Elec_A | this will happen only to virtual packages ? |
| 07:52.51 | bhuddah | afaik yes |
| 07:53.02 | Elec_A | or every time that i uninstall a package , i should check "dpkg -S packagename " |
| 07:53.08 | Elec_A | aha |
| 07:53.22 | bhuddah | think not. |
| 07:53.24 | Elec_A | then everytime dpkg -S package is not necessary ? |
| 07:53.31 | bhuddah | exactly |
| 07:53.31 | Elec_A | thankyou |
| 07:53.34 | bhuddah | np |
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| 07:58.40 | Wezired | Yes. Gentoo the perfect solutions |
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| 08:11.04 | bhuddah | nginxuser^: maybe you should try #nginx or something like that |
| 08:11.08 | mumpitzel | !tell nginxuser^ about anyone |
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| 08:12.23 | nginxuser^ | I want to exclude /en/ from rewrite |
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| 08:27.34 | pie_ | ive added auto eth1 iface eth1 inet static address 192.168.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 to my interfaces file but when i restart networking the interface still uese dhcp, why? |
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| 08:28.46 | wojtas | pie_: network-manger ? |
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| 08:29.46 | marlun | It has always been enough for me to just have `export CLICOLOR='YES'` in my .bashrc to get colors in my terminal but now on my new VPS it doesn't work. If I do `ls --color` it shows with color though. Any idea why CLICOLOR wouldn't be enough? |
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| 08:30.14 | pie_ | wojtas, what about it? |
| 08:30.30 | pie_ | aha |
| 08:30.41 | pie_ | youd think the interfaces file takes precedence? |
| 08:30.44 | pie_ | or soemthing |
| 08:30.52 | mumpitzel | it normally does |
| 08:31.07 | mumpitzel | anything that is defined in interfaces should be ignored by nm |
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| 08:32.22 | pie_ | any dieas? |
| 08:33.02 | pie_ | *ideas? |
| 08:33.16 | pie_ | wtf |
| 08:33.18 | wojtas | turn off nm ? |
| 08:33.24 | pie_ | interfaces is whitespace sensitive? |
| 08:34.06 | pie_ | or not...? |
| 08:34.06 | wojtas | you mean "/etc/network/interfaces" > |
| 08:34.08 | wojtas | ? |
| 08:34.10 | pie_ | yea |
| 08:34.16 | mumpitzel | pie_: pastebin your current file please |
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| 08:34.35 | pie_ | well now it set stuff correctly so idk whats up |
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| 08:34.50 | pie_ | is there a way to reset my interfaces to have no ips and stuff? |
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| 08:35.45 | pie_ | shrugs |
| 08:35.52 | pie_ | it works no, i have no clue what was up |
| 08:35.54 | mumpitzel | ifdown lets you take it down |
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| 08:38.01 | wojtas | pie_: check that you have "dpkg -l |grep ifup" |
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| 08:38.30 | pie_ | yeah |
| 08:38.32 | wojtas | if you are /etc/init.d/networking restart the scrip use |
| 08:38.35 | wojtas | ifdown |
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| 08:38.42 | wojtas | and ifup |
| 08:39.03 | mumpitzel | wojtas: it's part of the ifupdown package, there is no ifup one. and the binaries are in /sbin which means only root has them in its path |
| 08:40.01 | wojtas | grep ifup /etc/init.d/networking |
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| 08:41.16 | wojtas | brb |
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| 08:55.23 | thunder1212 | hi i have installed debian on my laptop. it has broadcom wifi . am unable to find drivers. help |
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| 08:57.19 | mumpitzel | thunder1212: run lspci -nn to check which broadcom chip you have |
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| 08:57.51 | ziyourenxiang | thunder1212, i think crunchbang forum has instructions on how to enable. |
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| 08:58.18 | mumpitzel | ziyourenxiang: you know he is running crunchbang and not debian? |
| 08:58.22 | wub | Can anyone spare a little time to help me? I'm having some trouble with my box crashing randomly. I figured it might be a driver issue, but it crashed while I was trying to install a new driver and now it won't boot :/ Instead it says "Gave up waiting for root device" and gives me a terminal. I'm running kernel 3.2, debian 7.1 |
| 08:59.00 | mumpitzel | wub: check if you can run fdisk and see your debian partition there |
| 08:59.07 | ziyourenxiang | i don't. i was testing crunchbang on my netbook and followed instructions on their forum and got my broadcom working. those are just regular commands, nothing distro-specific. |
| 08:59.29 | pie_ | another issue, ifconfig bridge create tells me: create:unknown host |
| 08:59.36 | pie_ | http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-bridging.html |
| 08:59.45 | pie_ | oh, thats a freebsd doc *facepalm* |
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| 09:01.11 | wub | mumpitzel: can't run fdisk. I'll try booting from some sort of recovery instead of my regular system. If it's any hint, grub boots normally and let me choose between the different kernelversions I have. |
| 09:01.33 | mumpitzel | wub: that's good. as long as /boot is on the same partition as your / |
| 09:02.28 | wub | mumpitzel: I believe it is - I'll try with the recovery thing, but I have no clue where to go from there :) |
| 09:02.53 | mumpitzel | wub: you mean the recovery entry in your grub menu? |
| 09:03.09 | thunder1212 | ziyourenxiang: hi thnx got it working https://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211#Debian_7.0_.22Wheezy.22 |
| 09:03.24 | thunder1212 | :) |
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| 09:04.00 | ziyourenxiang | cool |
| 09:04.06 | wub | mumpitzel: Ah, I can try that, yes. I was going to make a live USB of some sort. |
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| 09:04.29 | sal_ | hi |
| 09:04.33 | basiclaser | which room can i ask in for help with a router? |
| 09:04.40 | sal_ | Does Debian support rollbacks to undo a system upgrade? |
| 09:04.47 | mumpitzel | sal_: no |
| 09:04.55 | basiclaser | wifi problems? |
| 09:04.58 | mumpitzel | basiclaser: #networking probably |
| 09:05.12 | mumpitzel | !tell sal_ about downgrade |
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| 09:07.10 | wub | mumpitzel: I forgot to mention; I'm running lvm. Maybe that has an impact? |
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| 09:08.10 | Almtesh | Hi everyone! |
| 09:08.15 | Almtesh | I found this. |
| 09:08.27 | Almtesh | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/foomatic-db/filelist |
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| 09:08.45 | Almtesh | In this package, I can see Samsung CLP300. |
| 09:08.55 | Almtesh | How can I use this driver? |
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| 09:10.43 | Almtesh | During installation, the package even did something with this driver. |
| 09:11.07 | Almtesh | "PPD for printer Samsung_CLP-300 updated" |
| 09:14.44 | wub | mumpitzel: I think I have isolated the problem! And it was LVM related - It seems my root LV is set to inactive for some reason .. Now I just got to figure out why. |
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| 09:18.21 | katla | why doesn't debian come with pulseaudio? |
| 09:19.11 | Almtesh | katla, really? |
| 09:19.20 | katla | what are you asking |
| 09:19.25 | Almtesh | katla, if you install it, debian comes with it. |
| 09:19.38 | katla | the debian I got doesn't come with skype |
| 09:19.44 | Almtesh | katla, try apt-get install pulseaudio as root. |
| 09:19.54 | katla | sorry pulse, not skype |
| 09:20.03 | katla | what does apt-get have to do with this |
| 09:20.13 | Almtesh | katla, skype is not free. |
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| 09:20.21 | katla | I didn't mean to type skype there |
| 09:20.26 | Almtesh | katla, you can run it with wine. |
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| 09:22.17 | katla | why doesn't debian come with pulseaudio preinstalled |
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| 11:07.18 | mumpitzel | the newest debian linux kernel you can use with debian stable is 3.9 |
| 11:07.56 | mumpitzel | *yama.ko module not just yam.ko |
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| 11:09.59 | etherape | i found it in the ubuntu (12.04) headers: ./include/linux/yam.h |
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| 11:11.53 | etherape | i can not pull a source package because it breaks our custom virtual package dependencies |
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| 11:18.25 | Bugson | guys is there some way to check if my grub booted using uefi? |
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| 11:19.47 | mumpitzel | have you installeg grub-efi? |
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| 11:20.13 | mumpitzel | etherape: the filename of the kernel module. not any header file |
| 11:20.39 | Bugson | mumpitzel: yup it's installed |
| 11:20.46 | Bugson | mumpitzel: it's fresh install |
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| 11:21.09 | Bugson | mumpitzel: I've done the efi partition and I think the rest is done automatically |
| 11:21.18 | Bugson | mumpitzel: but I'd like to check it out |
| 11:21.23 | mumpitzel | etherape: yam.ko exists in debian but is a module for hamradio |
| 11:21.58 | mumpitzel | Bugson: any other OSes? anything you do only UEFI can (e.g. booting from a GPT 3TB disk)? |
| 11:22.55 | Bugson | mumpitzel: not really one os and standard partitions except of efi one |
| 11:23.44 | Bugson | I do have some things in /sys/firmware/efi/vars and efibootmgr -v shows some output |
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| 11:28.23 | etherape | mumpitzel: is the package name literal hamradio? |
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| 11:30.55 | mumpitzel | no. it's a kernel module for hamradio. it's called yam.ko, and its header then usually called yam.h and it's C source yam.c |
| 11:31.06 | mumpitzel | that's why I ask what the actual modulename for this YAMA is |
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| 11:34.29 | phix | hamradio you say |
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| 11:36.18 | etherape | mmkay, can we find it somehwere packaged in the debian repositories? |
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| 11:37.26 | phix | etherape: ether ape or ethe rape? |
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| 11:38.50 | mumpitzel | etherape: last time. what is the name of the ubuntu kernel module you seek? |
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| 11:40.57 | Elec_A | sorry , i want to use my user's pictures folder from terminal or thunar , but why i have to be admin(super user) ? |
| 11:41.27 | mumpitzel | use it how? |
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| 11:41.49 | Elec_A | for example "feh --bg-scale picturepath" |
| 11:42.08 | Elec_A | or creating a folder with mkdir |
| 11:42.27 | Elec_A | or creating a file using nano |
| 11:43.10 | mumpitzel | Elec_A: "ls -ld <path to pictures folder>" please |
| 11:43.16 | wub | koollman: I fixed it! |
| 11:43.31 | wub | koollman: Ended up doing this: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-lvm-maintainers/2011-February/003410.html |
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| 11:44.18 | Elec_A | mumpitzel : drwxr-xr-x 2 arash arash 4096 Aug 8 05:23 /home/arash/Pictures/ |
| 11:44.37 | armin | jesus, i've seen a lot of bad packaging, but the debian package for transmission-daemon really is the worst i've seen in a long time. |
| 11:44.38 | mumpitzel | and your username is arash? |
| 11:44.49 | Elec_A | yes |
| 11:45.06 | mumpitzel | Elec_A: as long as arash runs the command he can access Pictures easily (all can access it but only arash can write to it) |
| 11:45.11 | jiohdi | armin: lets leave my son out of this |
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| 11:45.22 | etherape | mumpitzel: yama |
| 11:45.32 | armin | jiohdi: hehe |
| 11:45.40 | mumpitzel | etherape: yama.ko? there is no yama.ko in ubuntu |
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| 11:45.55 | Reginald_Barclay | darmok and jalad at tanagra |
| 11:46.05 | etherape | i will look further myself, thnx for your attention and effort |
| 11:46.40 | Elec_A | mumpitzel : but why i cannot open pictures with feh from Pictures folder ? |
| 11:47.01 | jiohdi | mumpitzel: you should be able to if you give the correct path |
| 11:47.03 | Elec_A | mumpitzel : and with sudo it is possible . |
| 11:47.06 | wub | Does anyone know how to run some scripts at startup if rc.local isn't doing it? I think I'm missing something basic. |
| 11:47.14 | etherape | phix: just etherape |
| 11:47.37 | jiohdi | wub: for which window manager? |
| 11:47.42 | mumpitzel | wub: what is the full filename of your rc.local? |
| 11:48.54 | jiohdi | wub different window managers have different folders you can drop scripts in |
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| 11:50.57 | mumpitzel | jiohdi: on startup. where he wants to use rc.local. nothing to do with windows managers or desktops |
| 11:51.01 | wub | jiohdi: It's not any sort of x-stuff - I just want to do screen -d -m rtorrent and dropbox start when I boot the computer. |
| 11:51.16 | wub | mumpitzel: /etc/rc.local |
| 11:51.22 | mumpitzel | jiohdi: especially since no WM I know runs startup scripts. it's what .xinitrc is for |
| 11:52.09 | jiohdi | there are several wm that us a fold you can put a start.sh script in which will run at boot up |
| 11:52.14 | jiohdi | use* |
| 11:52.22 | mumpitzel | wub: that should be used on startup. called via /etc/rc2.d/S11rc.local. what is that script you want to run doing exactly? |
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| 11:52.46 | babilen | Reginald_Barclay: Play elsewhere please. Thank you. |
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| 11:52.55 | wub | mumpitzel: Just starting a screen session with rtorrent and starting the dropbox daemon. |
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| 11:55.21 | jiohdi | wub: if you use openbox you can use /home/user/.config/openbox/autostart.sh |
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| 11:58.31 | wub | I'm using gnome, but I just want stuff to run in the terminal. |
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| 12:02.00 | wub | jiohdi: I'm using gnome, but I just want stuff to run in the terminal. |
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| 12:02.50 | jiohdi | wub: see http://pastebin.com/kMa3KMbP and change terminal=true |
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| 12:07.57 | Elec_A | mumpitzel and other , i found the problem , i forgot to chown my pictures ! |
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| 12:08.09 | Elec_A | so only root had access to file |
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| 12:08.21 | jiohdi | wub: did it work? |
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| 12:08.49 | Elec_A | my Pictures' folder's permissions were ok but included files' permissions were only for root |
| 12:09.03 | jiohdi | Elec_A: that would do it |
| 12:09.19 | Elec_A | jiohdi : yes ;) |
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| 12:21.24 | wub | jiohdi: I have some other stuff I need to tend to. I've bookmarked your link and I'll try it when I get the chance :) |
| 12:22.45 | jiohdi | wub: I dont know how long pastebin lasts... |
| 12:23.10 | jiohdi | the original link is http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8247706/start-script-when-gnome-starts-up |
| 12:24.25 | katla | why doesn't debian come with pulse audio? |
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| 12:25.10 | jiohdi | katla: easy enough to add |
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| 12:25.18 | katla | not what im asking |
| 12:25.37 | jiohdi | katla: why doesn't debian come with chromium browser? |
| 12:25.47 | jiohdi | some one decided it that way is all |
| 12:25.56 | katla | unhelpful |
| 12:26.16 | jiohdi | katla: debian.org has forums |
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| 12:26.24 | jiohdi | likely someone put the answer in there |
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| 12:33.39 | james41382 | katla: I like Iceweasel. |
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| 12:34.14 | jiohdi | an iceweasel is a retired firefox |
| 12:34.32 | james41382 | jiohdi: What do you mean? |
| 12:34.51 | jiohdi | I mean its an old firefox with a different name |
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| 12:35.53 | james41382 | jiohdi: I realized it was Mozilla. I don't understand old though. It is still updated isn't it? |
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| 12:36.18 | jiohdi | james41382: its an older version, not the most current, debian likes to stay back a bit for stability |
| 12:36.52 | james41382 | jiohdi: Okay now that makes sense. There are so many browsers out there these days it's crazy. |
| 12:36.54 | jiohdi | though lately debian has been getting a lot closer to the edge |
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| 12:37.26 | katla | james41382, why telling me? |
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| 12:39.08 | james41382 | katla: It works. Plain and simple. At least for me I don't need anything else. I mainly visit web pages and stream videos and it does that just fine. Plus I like the add-ons and themes, which are easy to browse, install and uninstall. |
| 12:39.18 | katla | james41382, why are you telling me |
| 12:40.00 | james41382 | katla: Oh I missed it up there.. It was jiodhi that asked the question not you. Sorry. |
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| 12:40.04 | katla | ah okay |
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| 12:40.23 | SpeedyG | Hi, i've got a little problem with setting backlight brightness on my Samsung P560. it does work using setpci but not using the fn keys... searching for the issue only points me at ubuntu forums with samsung-tools but there seems to be no such package for debian... anyone know how to fix this issue ? |
| 12:40.25 | james41382 | katla: It does come with Pulse Audio though. |
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| 12:41.11 | james41382 | SpeedyG: The backlight adjustment button on my laptop seem to work fine. |
| 12:41.12 | jiohdi | SpeedyG: sometimes you can add the correct repo update and install but it can be tricky |
| 12:41.59 | SpeedyG | james41382: did it work out of the box or did you have to change things on your install? I've got a clean install of deb testing on my laptop but the fn buttons don't seem to work |
| 12:42.41 | james41382 | SpeedyG: This is a clean install of Wheezy and the FN buttons worked out of the box. |
| 12:42.44 | SpeedyG | well, let me be more specific, the fn buttons for brightness don't seem to work.. all other fn-related functions work |
| 12:43.15 | james41382 | Hmm.. that's strange. I wouldn't know where to start with that. Sorry. |
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| 12:43.54 | SpeedyG | jiohdi: i'd rather not add ubuntu packages to a debian install for some reason :) |
| 12:44.08 | jiohdi | SpeedyG: yeah, it can make things worse |
| 12:44.24 | jiohdi | SpeedyG: but you are using testing which is almost the same thing |
| 12:45.55 | anonymuouss | dont add ubuntu packages to a debian install under any circumstances |
| 12:45.58 | james41382 | jiohdi: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-kernel-70/fn-keys-fn-f10-thru-fn-f12-on-notebook-stop-working-after-kernel-upgrade-795801/ |
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| 12:46.11 | anonymuouss | no "ifs" "ands" or "buts" |
| 12:46.24 | james41382 | I just came across this quickly.. What version is the testing kernel? |
| 12:47.11 | james41382 | I am using the Wheezy BPO 3.9 kernel and the FN keys are working. You could try going back to the 3.9 kernel maybe? |
| 12:47.46 | james41382 | But it's just the brightness.. which maybe it's not related to the kernel at all.. |
| 12:48.01 | SpeedyG | hm, seems issue between button and function |
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| 12:48.06 | SpeedyG | as settign brightness using setpci works |
| 12:48.19 | SpeedyG | just the buttons don't do anything but showing a nice graph going up or down :) |
| 12:48.31 | SpeedyG | s/graph/bar/ :) |
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| 12:49.32 | james41382 | SpeedyG; Oh yes you said that earlier. |
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| 12:51.21 | jiohdi | james41382: is james41381 your father? |
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| 12:51.33 | jiohdi | sorry just a random thought |
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| 12:56.07 | SpeedyG | james41382: seems adding GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_backlight=vendor" to grub helps :) now those buttons also work :D |
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| 12:59.18 | thunder1212 | does debian-live image differ from debian normal install disk? |
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| 13:00.21 | mumpitzel | thunder1212: those are called "live installation images" http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ |
| 13:02.48 | thunder1212 | mumpitzel: i have installed debian using the live installation image. is there any difference in the repositories (/etc/apt/sources.list) for installing software ? |
| 13:03.05 | mumpitzel | no |
| 13:04.51 | thunder1212 | mumpitzel: http://paste.debian.net/23653/ this is my original sources.list only the last line has been edited |
| 13:05.46 | thunder1212 | mumpitzel: i think its diff from the actual sources.list |
| 13:05.50 | mumpitzel | !tell thunder1212 about wheezy sources.list |
| 13:05.55 | mumpitzel | the cdrom line is not advisable |
| 13:06.05 | thunder1212 | mumpitzel: ok |
| 13:06.40 | mumpitzel | you need the wheezy/updates line for security updates. in the end there should be 3 lines for wheezy as dpkg just messaged you. others can be deleted |
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| 13:09.33 | pie_ | does anyone know what format emails are sent in in pop3? the rfc only specifies the command |
| 13:09.38 | pie_ | to retrieve it |
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| 13:09.50 | pie_ | at least, on a quick skim its all i saw |
| 13:09.56 | mumpitzel | pie_: it's a simple text file |
| 13:10.04 | mumpitzel | well, text data. not really a file |
| 13:10.20 | pie_ | yeah i know, i mean, hold on |
| 13:10.31 | thunder1212 | mumpitzel: but why does my sources.list file doesnt have these by default? |
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| 13:11.13 | pie_ | if the email data was a file, what would its file format be? x to text file as jpg is to binary file |
| 13:11.40 | mumpitzel | thunder1212: cause you installed from cdrom, that's why the cdrom entry is there. also you have the wheezy security updates but you commented them out |
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| 13:11.55 | z3l | babylen |
| 13:11.55 | mumpitzel | thunder1212: and the list differs depending if you have internet access at the time of installation or not |
| 13:12.13 | mumpitzel | pie_: there is no such thing |
| 13:12.33 | mumpitzel | the format mails have is determined by RFC822 IIRC. a header and a body |
| 13:12.52 | mumpitzel | the typical formats to store mail are mbox, maildir, etc |
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| 13:13.31 | mumpitzel | pie_: yes, RFC 822 is " STANDARD FOR THE FORMAT OF ARPA INTERNET TEXT MESSAGES" |
| 13:13.37 | pie_ | thanks i think thats it |
| 13:13.46 | thunder1212 | mumpitzel: ok so this could happen even if i install from a debian dvd ? |
| 13:13.47 | pie_ | i just didnt know how to describe it |
| 13:13.57 | mumpitzel | thunder1212: yes |
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| 13:14.47 | thunder1212 | mumpitzel: and do i need deb-src also or should it be left out? |
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| 13:15.24 | mumpitzel | don't need it. you only need it if you want to download source for packages and compile them yourself. usually not, saves some bandwith when you apt-get update when you leave them out |
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| 13:17.55 | thunder1212 | mumpitzel: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList is the example sources.list correct? |
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| 13:20.59 | mumpitzel | thunder1212: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Example_sources.list_for_Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22 is the same list as dpkg messaged you but deb-src for all of them added, yes |
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| 13:25.13 | thunder1212 | mumpitzel: thanks a lot got some idea now.. and if i want non free packages i just add contrib non-free after main, right? |
| 13:25.41 | mumpitzel | thunder1212: yes |
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| 13:26.17 | pie_ | mumpitzel, MIME is what im looking for no? |
| 13:26.48 | thunder1212 | mumpitzel: whats the difference between apt-get update and aptitude update? |
| 13:27.02 | bhuddah | thunder1212: the tool used |
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| 13:29.05 | mumpitzel | thunder1212: a few letters, that's all |
| 13:29.32 | thunder1212 | ok |
| 13:29.35 | thunder1212 | thanks bye |
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| 13:31.47 | esrax | is there a textbook way to persist a change in /proc between reboots in debian |
| 13:32.07 | bhuddah | esrax: what sort of change? |
| 13:32.23 | esrax | changing the dirty_ratio |
| 13:32.51 | bhuddah | esrax: sysctl i would say |
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| 13:34.39 | esrax | oh, I guess I could use /etc/sysctl.conf then |
| 13:34.51 | bhuddah | yes. |
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| 13:35.04 | bhuddah | and use sysctl -a | grep "dirty" to find the right parameter name |
| 13:35.08 | esrax | great, for some reason i forgot about that and thought it was only available on bsd |
| 13:35.17 | bhuddah | no prob ;) |
| 13:35.31 | thunder1212 | mumpitzel: when i run apt-get update i get this error in the end: W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.debian.net_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages) |
| 13:35.32 | thunder1212 | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
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| 13:36.17 | jelly | thunder1212: sounds like you have a duplicate sources.list entry! |
| 13:36.24 | bhuddah | *laughs* yes... |
| 13:36.32 | bhuddah | thunder1212: can you please paste your sources.list? |
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| 13:37.09 | jelly | thunder1212: might want to comment out or delete one of those deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main... lines |
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| 13:37.48 | jelly | thunder1212: look at the files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ as well (if there are any) |
| 13:38.08 | hypfer | hello #debian. i'm trying to get QoS working with HTB. I followed this tutorial (with customisation of course) http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/68768-howto-implement-htb-qos-for-pms-on-centos-64/ |
| 13:38.09 | thunder1212 | bhuddah: jelly : http://paste.debian.net/23660/ |
| 13:38.18 | hypfer | but it doesn't work at all. no shaping |
| 13:38.22 | hypfer | no priorisation |
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| 13:38.32 | hypfer | and i have no idea why :( |
| 13:38.34 | bhuddah | thunder1212: remove line 1 |
| 13:38.46 | thunder1212 | bhuddah: why? |
| 13:38.57 | jelly | thunder1212: you already have wheezy main on line 4 |
| 13:39.05 | bhuddah | thunder1212: because line 4 is the same but contains contrib and non-free too |
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| 13:39.14 | bhuddah | i expect that you want those additionals |
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| 13:40.00 | jelly | hypfer: #netfilter channel might be able to provide a clue |
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| 13:40.02 | thunder1212 | bhuddah: jelly ok so i can remove line 4 and add contrib non-free to line 1? |
| 13:40.10 | bhuddah | thunder1212: that is an option too |
| 13:40.15 | hypfer | jelly: okay :) |
| 13:40.17 | jelly | thunder1212: yes, that would be equivalent |
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| 13:40.23 | thunder1212 | ok thanks got it :) |
| 13:41.37 | thunder1212 | bhuddah: what does contrib non-free mean? |
| 13:41.56 | dash00 | hypfer, time after time I use alien to install rpm, so try install HTB from rpm if available, that might it will help (I know it's not the cleaner solution) |
| 13:41.57 | bhuddah | thunder1212: additional repos. the not so open source part of debian. |
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| 13:42.26 | ZIPY | hwo do i mount an ext2 boot partition into live cd.. it always says: mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /boot special device /dev/sda1 does not exist |
| 13:42.54 | hypfer | dash00: well.. actually it is just a scriupt in no package at all. :) |
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| 13:43.28 | dash00 | hypfer, at that tut is yum install so I think rpm will be available ;) |
| 13:43.54 | dash00 | ah sorry that was iproute :D |
| 13:44.02 | hypfer | ^^ |
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| 13:45.09 | midacts | Does anyone know of a good way to determine a directory that is taking up alot of space? where it is using the CLi or graphical tool |
| 13:45.29 | bhuddah | midacts: du -chs * |
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| 13:46.33 | mumpitzel | midacts: and if you want it to be pretty, you can use ncdu |
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| 13:47.08 | midacts | say i have a second hard drive mounted, and I want to find where my large backups are located, what would be the best approach to do that |
| 13:47.18 | midacts | because i cant remember which directory i had them in :[ |
| 13:47.33 | bhuddah | find by size |
| 13:48.31 | thunder1212 | bhuddah: how can i search for files or directories from terminal? |
| 13:48.33 | jelly | thunder1212: one could ask yourself why did you add them if you did not know what they were! |
| 13:48.48 | jelly | !tell thunder1212 about non-free |
| 13:49.03 | bhuddah | thunder1212: man find |
| 13:49.24 | jelly | bhuddah: that manual is quite horrible. |
| 13:49.25 | midacts | mumpitzel, ncdu=awesome |
| 13:49.26 | midacts | bhuddah, thank you for sharing the du -chs * comand with me |
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| 13:49.30 | bhuddah | jelly: yes *hehehe* |
| 13:49.42 | bhuddah | midacts: yw |
| 13:49.46 | ZIPY | hwo do i mount an ext2 boot partition into live cd.. it always says: mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /boot special device /dev/sda1 does not exist |
| 13:50.21 | jelly | thunder1212: for simple searches on the local machine, there's the "locate" command. However it's not realtime and its database is only updated once a day. |
| 13:50.42 | jelly | thunder1212: try "locate bin/ls" |
| 13:50.44 | bhuddah | you can update it manually via "updatedb" |
| 13:50.59 | thunder1212 | ok thanks a lot :) |
| 13:51.03 | thunder1212 | bye |
| 13:51.03 | bhuddah | but it can't search by size |
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| 13:51.14 | bhuddah | well. |
| 13:51.40 | Iridos | midacts, graphical too, there's gdmap |
| 13:51.52 | jelly | bhuddah: running updatedb manually is not recommended, but there's a cron job in /etc/cron.daily/ that reads additional config files before running it |
| 13:51.55 | dash00 | sfdisk -l (will show you disks/parts) or cat /proc/partitions |
| 13:52.17 | bhuddah | jelly: really? it is not? strange.. because it usually takes like 2 or 3 seconds... |
| 13:52.20 | Iridos | midacts, graphical *tool*, there's gdmap |
| 13:52.27 | bhuddah | jelly: do you know why it is not recomended? |
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| 13:52.46 | jelly | bhuddah: I just said why. |
| 13:53.23 | bhuddah | jelly: i don't get it |
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| 13:53.38 | midacts | Iridos, That tools is great!! i reminds me of virt-manager. so i am comfortable with using that. Thank you for your response. |
| 13:53.48 | jelly | bhuddah: when run manually, it might not read the relevant config files (/etc/updatedb.conf) and use compiled-in defaults instead. |
| 13:54.25 | bhuddah | jelly: sorry. maybe it's because i use mlocate.. that doesn't do that |
| 13:54.28 | jelly | bhuddah: this depends on the installed version of locate/updatedb (there are 2-3 different ones in debian) |
| 13:54.49 | bhuddah | cronjob just uses ionice and checks for ac_power |
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| 13:55.47 | bhuddah | jelly: thx for the info :) learned something :) |
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| 13:59.29 | jelly | mlocate might actually be sane |
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| 14:00.06 | katla | why doesn't debian come with pulse audio? |
| 14:00.19 | themill | it does |
| 14:00.49 | katla | i dont think that is correct |
| 14:00.58 | themill | ,i pulseaudio |
| 14:00.59 | judd | Package pulseaudio (sound, optional) in wheezy/i386: PulseAudio sound server. Version: 2.0-6.1; Size: 811.9k; Installed: 4634k; Homepage: http://www.pulseaudio.org |
| 14:01.30 | katla | it comes with alsa installed but not pulse |
| 14:01.46 | themill | it comes installed with whatever you asked it to install... |
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| 14:02.12 | katla | so "debian" is what ever you beleive in |
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| 14:02.52 | themill | Well there are some default grab bags of packages that the installer offers you -- the desktop task would have installed pulseaudio. |
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| 14:03.30 | SirLagz | anyone got any recommendations on how to mass-administer debian boxes ? packages, crontabs, etc ? |
| 14:04.06 | bhuddah | SirLagz: chef, puppet, fai |
| 14:04.15 | SirLagz | thanks ! |
| 14:04.18 | bhuddah | np |
| 14:04.46 | SirLagz | wouldn't happen to know how they are on resources would you ? |
| 14:05.12 | bhuddah | SirLagz: how large is the number of boxes for you? |
| 14:05.22 | SirLagz | bhuddah: at the moment, 10 or so |
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| 14:05.33 | SirLagz | but will probably increase as time goes on |
| 14:05.46 | bhuddah | SirLagz: don't worry if it's not in the thousands |
| 14:05.54 | themill | katla: there are almost 37000 packages in wheezy. You have to work hard at it to install about 10% of them and everyone will have different selections of packages installed |
| 14:06.03 | SirLagz | bhuddah: I'm more worried about the clients themselves lol |
| 14:06.12 | katla | ok |
| 14:06.14 | SirLagz | I've got boxes with 128 mb of ram lol |
| 14:06.14 | bhuddah | SirLagz: oh. very light footprint. |
| 14:06.19 | SirLagz | righto cool |
| 14:06.39 | bhuddah | i thought you meant the server. ;) |
| 14:06.55 | SirLagz | haha |
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| 14:07.07 | SirLagz | server too, but the server will have 512mbs of ram |
| 14:07.19 | bhuddah | o0 |
| 14:07.29 | bhuddah | is this a time machine here? :D |
| 14:07.32 | SirLagz | hahaha |
| 14:07.45 | SirLagz | I'm just too poor to get more hahaha |
| 14:07.53 | bhuddah | happens. |
| 14:08.00 | bhuddah | will be enough... |
| 14:08.04 | SirLagz | got a whole bunch of P3s here lol... |
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| 14:08.21 | bhuddah | wow. |
| 14:08.45 | SirLagz | haha |
| 14:08.49 | SirLagz | and a couple of Raspberry Pis |
| 14:09.00 | SirLagz | low power stuff |
| 14:09.31 | bhuddah | they are quite nice |
| 14:09.45 | SirLagz | indeedy |
| 14:09.51 | SirLagz | I'm using one as a WiFi router haha |
| 14:10.01 | SirLagz | works pretty well for the hack I put together |
| 14:10.07 | bhuddah | :) |
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| 14:32.05 | Symhedonia | gday, anyone using solaris ILOM java applet on debian ? |
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| 14:33.26 | Letchik | I've just installed debian 7.1 with full disk encryption lvm on luks, mounting existing luks containers during the installation to use them, wrote the lines for them in /etc/crypttab, but now looks like debian failed to mount any of them and tells me: |
| 14:33.27 | Letchik | Loading, please wait... |
| 14:33.27 | Letchik | Volume group %group_name% not found |
| 14:33.27 | Letchik | Skipping volume group %volume name% |
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| 14:33.28 | caraconan | Hi there. I have libnss-ldapd configured. Now I want to add a local account username to an LDAP group. I can see the group doing a "getent group", but after run the command "sudo usermod -a -G ldapgroup localuser" nothing happens. Any idea? |
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| 14:34.40 | dash00 | caraconan, try: strace sudo usermod -a -G ldapgroup localuser |
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| 14:35.28 | Letchik | I've just installed debian 7.1 with full disk encryption lvm on luks, mounting existing luks containers during the installation to use them, wrote the lines for them in /etc/crypttab, but now looks like debian failed to mount any of them |
| 14:35.43 | Letchik | How do I fix that? |
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| 14:37.15 | caraconan | dash00: http://paste.debian.net/23675/ |
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| 14:38.36 | sashman | hello i installed debian 7.0 with xfce env... and wanted to config xor but there is not xorg.conf in /etc/X11/ anymore?? |
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| 14:38.59 | litb | hello all |
| 14:39.05 | litb | is there a debian wheezy kernel with the UTRACE extension/patch? |
| 14:39.16 | litb | i wanna use stap on user processes |
| 14:39.16 | Nanuq | sashman: Not by default, no. |
| 14:39.34 | dash00 | caraconan, line 83-85 has some problem with localization |
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| 14:39.57 | jhutchins | sashman: Current systems auto-detect on startup. |
| 14:39.58 | caraconan | Thanks, I was comparing the output of another command |
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| 14:40.12 | sashman | lol and on which conf is X11 running by default than? |
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| 14:40.54 | civi | well, hi |
| 14:41.06 | el-linedash | litb, kernel-patch-viewos appears to have the utrace patch in it |
| 14:41.17 | sashman | jhutchins: mh ok... it had autodetect my second monitor but all displays r the same how can i quick Xinerama it |
| 14:41.19 | civi | I'm trying to build 2.7.18 kernel on debian 7.1.0 |
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| 14:41.21 | civi | i kinda succedeed |
| 14:41.22 | anonymuouss | i am getting " /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks/includes failed with return 1." when i run this: http://paste.debian.net/23676/ . as far as i can tell, my syntax is correct, and that "copy_exec" is not working correctly. |
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| 14:41.44 | btorch | anyone here has a sample udev rules file for multipath devices ? |
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| 14:41.48 | civi | except it executes some illegal cpu instruction right at the beginning of booting (nothing logged, only vmware went mad) |
| 14:41.49 | btorch | that I could check it out |
| 14:41.52 | civi | oh yeah, i run it on vmware |
| 14:42.02 | anonymuouss | im using the same basic layout as i see in other peoples work, as far as i can tell. i tried just copying "less" in, as a control. figuring it has limited depends |
| 14:42.05 | civi | i previously succedeed with 2.6.28.7 kernel |
| 14:42.42 | el-linedash | anonymuouss, just a guess - but you have extra whitespace in the command |
| 14:42.48 | caraconan | dash00: I think it's an upstream error. I can't even add the local user to a local group. |
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| 14:43.33 | dash00 | caraconan: and the group you wanna add is in LDAP, true? |
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| 14:44.39 | anonymuouss | el-linedash: could you try to include a binary in an intramfs and verify that it works? what i have here comes straight from man initramfs-tools |
| 14:44.52 | caraconan | Yes, I can see it with getenv group |
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| 14:45.12 | anonymuouss | well i know my whitespaces are a little messed up |
| 14:46.05 | anonymuouss | you put the include in with that script, then run "update-initramfs -u" |
| 14:46.15 | dash00 | dash00, and are you sure you have right permissions to LDAP? that you can write not only list/read ? |
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| 14:46.31 | dash00 | caraconan: and are you sure you have right permissions to LDAP? that you can write not only list/read ? |
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| 14:46.53 | caraconan | dash00: 1 sec, I think the command I was using is somehow not working |
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| 14:47.55 | litb | el-linedash: nice! |
| 14:48.02 | caraconan | mmm no, is the proper way to do it |
| 14:48.04 | litb | el-linedash: but.. how do I install them? |
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| 14:48.16 | litb | i apt-getted them... but it appears to have nothing done to anything |
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| 14:49.50 | caraconan | dash00: I'm almost sure that I need to increase the GID to above 1000 in LDAP. Doing now |
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| 14:50.17 | dash00 | caraconan, maybe try #ldap , it's long ago I've used it last time =| |
| 14:50.47 | caraconan | No, it's not related with LDAP. Is something to do with "privileged" GID, I'm almost sure |
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| 14:51.53 | halt | Hi guys, I'm big fan of debian and what to have debian as my main os for my mobile device as well, can you recommend somethig small and portable what's already support debian ? I used to have an Nokia N900 but that's a bit old hardware |
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| 14:54.12 | litb | el-linedash: ah i see, these are just plain patch files. too bad :) |
| 14:54.20 | caraconan | mmm still not working. Continuing my checkings |
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| 14:55.06 | dash00 | caraconan, you are right - http://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Ldapsam_Editposix |
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| 14:56.11 | jelly | civi: "2.7.18" does not exist, did you mean 2.6.18, and why do you need such an old kernel? |
| 14:56.27 | civi | i meant 2.6.17 |
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| 14:56.53 | civi | for LinuxPMI (hpc patches) |
| 14:57.11 | civi | it is available only for 2.6.17 and 2.6.28.7 |
| 14:57.21 | civi | yet some testing tools are only for first one |
| 14:58.54 | civi | jelly: 2.7.18 was surely right hand 1 cm too far to the right :) |
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| 15:01.03 | jelly | civi: debian 7 userspace will not work on anything older than... I think 2.6.30 |
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| 15:03.24 | civi | jelly: i just need a system which boots and accepts tcp :) |
| 15:03.37 | civi | got that on 2.6.28.7 |
| 15:03.45 | civi | but need to go further back :) |
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| 15:04.32 | gribouille | hi |
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| 15:04.44 | gribouille | is there a command to prevent a file system from being unmounted? |
| 15:04.53 | jelly | civi: I'd find linuxpmi people and ask them about support for some less horribly old kernel. Alternatively, use Debian 6 |
| 15:05.06 | kombi | this box has no fstab, how is that even possible... |
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| 15:05.44 | jelly | civi: the homepage says they have a channel here on freenode. |
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| 15:06.15 | jelly | kombi: / is mounted at initramfs time |
| 15:06.18 | civi | oh, indeed they do |
| 15:06.21 | civi | thanks |
| 15:06.24 | civi | ill check there |
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| 15:06.57 | kombi | jelly: I was just going to cat /proc/mounts > /etc/fstab... |
| 15:06.58 | jelly | civi: even it the kernel booted, I bet you'd have gotten a "FATAL: kernel too old" message from glibc |
| 15:07.08 | jelly | kombi: that does not make any sense |
| 15:07.15 | civi | jelly: well, surprisingly no |
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| 15:07.56 | kombi | jelly: hmm, what does? |
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| 15:09.07 | jelly | kombi: fstab has a completely different format. What are you trying to accomplish? |
| 15:09.35 | kombi | jelly: Just need to add a mount to it |
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| 15:10.02 | jelly | kombi: so create a file and add a mount to it, using the format specified in man 5 fstab |
| 15:10.10 | jelly | the* file |
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| 15:10.25 | kombi | jelly: won't that break things? |
| 15:10.36 | jelly | kombi: what things? |
| 15:10.51 | kombi | jelly: chuckle.. point taken |
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| 15:13.18 | jelly | kombi: if you like things neat, you might add an entry for your / as well |
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| 15:14.17 | jelly | /dev/fishes / ext3 defaults 0 1 |
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| 15:14.49 | kombi | jelly: will do, (do like neat at times), thanks! |
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| 15:19.47 | caraconan | I can't figure this out.... So I'll ask again: how can I add a local user to an LDAP group? I have libnss-ldapd configured properly |
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| 15:31.05 | jhutchins | kombi: There are also things like tmpfs that are specified other than in fstab. |
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| 15:36.29 | AliceLiddell | hey how does Debian recognize my nvidia card but use freesoftware? |
| 15:36.48 | ksk | !tell AliceLiddell about nvidia |
| 15:36.53 | AliceLiddell | It lets me use my intergrated graphics or my nvidia gpu |
| 15:37.18 | AliceLiddell | I wanted to ask if it's possible to install that graphics driver on trisquel |
| 15:37.25 | AliceLiddell | so I can use multiple monitors |
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| 15:37.40 | AliceLiddell | I didn't know there was a debian wiki... |
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| 15:38.06 | ksk | this is #debian, please refer to your distris support |
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| 15:38.13 | AliceLiddell | yeah but I can never install the proprietary driver on Debian I end up using Ubuntu |
| 15:38.32 | ksk | as the bot told you installing the proprietary driver is not support in here neither ;) |
| 15:38.36 | AliceLiddell | I was wondering if there is a way to use that same driver on a different OS thats debian based |
| 15:38.49 | ksk | !tell AliceLiddell about based_ |
| 15:38.52 | AliceLiddell | so you don't support the proprietary driver for debian as in support as in its |
| 15:38.52 | ksk | !tell AliceLiddell about based_on_debian |
| 15:38.57 | ksk | mhm.. |
| 15:39.08 | AliceLiddell | non free so you don't want it |
| 15:39.11 | ksk | !tell AliceLiddell about based on debian |
| 15:39.19 | AliceLiddell | :3 |
| 15:39.24 | ksk | :p |
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| 15:40.21 | AliceLiddell | googles about Debian some more |
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| 15:41.05 | AliceLiddell | imo Debian is my favorite distro |
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| 15:41.36 | babilen | AliceLiddell: Take a look at https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers - but we do not support Trisquel or any other distribution but Debian in here. |
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| 15:43.57 | armin | does anyone know a tool that will display the output of a shellscript on the X root window? |
| 15:44.00 | lintguy | Hello, my grub got corrupted when upgrading to wheezy. My dedicated server have a rescue system, but it loads the main disk as an LVM volume (vg0). How do i re-install grub on that? |
| 15:44.01 | armin | like, on the background? |
| 15:45.59 | lintguy | I know how to install grub on a physical disk, but not lvm. For example, mount /dev/vg0 /mnt just gives (not block device) error |
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| 15:47.21 | jelly | !tell ksk about msg the bot |
| 15:47.33 | jelly | hides |
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| 15:54.17 | jtheuer | hi, when using ssh, can I pass the host key fingerprint on the command line in order to skip the interactive check? |
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| 15:55.09 | jelly | jtheuer: you could add it preemptively to known_hosts, or use a custom known_hosts file |
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| 15:55.35 | ksk | jelly: ... |
| 15:55.54 | jtheuer | jelly: I thought the knonwn_hosts contains the full key rather than the fingerprint only? |
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| 15:56.40 | jelly | jtheuer: indeed |
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| 15:57.03 | lintguy | So… you guys can't help with the grub thingie? |
| 15:57.26 | vi390 | trying to add cgroup support, seems the kernel does not have it (ARM kernel), is it possible to load that with lsmod, and where do i get the module? |
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| 15:59.20 | jhutchins | You add the public key to the authorized_keys file to allow login without password. |
| 15:59.22 | jelly | jtheuer: I forgot about that. ssh-keyscan to fetch the whole thing if you do not have it already |
| 15:59.50 | jelly | jhutchins: this is about host verification, not user verification |
| 16:00.01 | jhutchins | You can use ssh-copy-id to push the key. |
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| 16:09.55 | onethfour3 | how do i get grep | less results to be colorful? grep --color works but not combined with | less |
| 16:11.21 | onethfour3 | --color=always |
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| 16:12.18 | jordanm | onethfour3: --color=always, after you have setup colors for less |
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| 16:15.04 | onethfour3 | jordanm,how do i set up colors for less |
| 16:15.09 | onethfour3 | color=always didnt work |
| 16:15.16 | onethfour3 | it just put a bunch of wierd stuff in my less |
| 16:15.17 | jordanm | http://superuser.com/questions/117841/get-colors-in-less-command |
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| 16:16.17 | vi390 | can i load a cgroup kernel module at runtime? |
| 16:17.01 | onethfour3 | jordanm,sweet it works now!!! thank you |
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| 16:20.43 | onethfour3 | i want to search for all email addresses, woudl this work: grep -R --color=always '\\w+@\\w+\\.\\w+' ./ | less |
| 16:20.52 | ksk | vi390: its not a module thingy, you just need kernel version X - it then has cgroup support |
| 16:21.04 | ksk | !tell vi390 about cgroups |
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| 16:21.39 | ksk | mhm, whatever.. theres some article on the debianwiki, google it |
| 16:22.15 | vi390 | ksk: hmm ok, well its a kernel which is specially designed for small arm-based computer... Is there any other way to integrate cgroup, hmm argh guess not if its completely in the kernel. |
| 16:22.27 | vi390 | how can I check for availability in kernel? |
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| 16:23.33 | vi390 | ksk: article; seems to be not well documented @ cgroup ; hardly to find ; the wiki article is more or less about lxc |
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| 16:24.27 | oskie_ | my losetup from util-linux doesn't accept --partscan! why not? |
| 16:24.46 | oskie_ | doh. maybe it's too old |
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| 16:31.21 | vi390 | can I run a virtual instance created with debootstrap, without having cgroup activated? |
| 16:32.04 | lintguy | the boot partition has 3 partitions, what partition do i install towards? One have the flag bios_grub |
| 16:32.19 | lintguy | *the boot table |
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| 16:35.26 | tremon | lintguy: debian can install on all drives, there is no "install partition". the bios_grub partition is special, and should be very small. Beyond that, you can do whatever you want |
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| 16:37.04 | lintguy | tremon, so i should just install it to /dev/sdb and it will know to install it to the boot partition? |
| 16:37.16 | tremon | what's "it"? |
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| 16:37.24 | lintguy | grub |
| 16:37.36 | tremon | ah, I thought you were asking about the installer |
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| 16:37.49 | lintguy | Kind of |
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| 16:38.19 | tremon | typically, you only need to install to the disc that your bios boots from. So yes, that would be /dev/sdb |
| 16:38.21 | lintguy | tremon: my disks partition table looks like this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8c6FdeSk |
| 16:38.38 | lintguy | I need to reinstall GRUB, but not sure to where. |
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| 16:39.04 | lintguy | The ext3 partition is where i originally set it up |
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| 16:39.28 | knoxxje | Hey , this channel helps squid questions? |
| 16:39.32 | lintguy | But i have never needed to touch grub before, and don't wan't to ruin the server. |
| 16:39.53 | knoxxje | i use debian for squid |
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| 16:40.01 | tremon | grub should always be installed to the mbr except for very specific configs |
| 16:40.02 | lintguy | knoxxje: squid proxy? just ask, maybe someone knows |
| 16:40.24 | lintguy | tremon: Then i think it is installed to the mbr, so that should be the very first small partition right? |
| 16:40.27 | knoxxje | yes |
| 16:40.30 | knoxxje | I configurared my squid with my ad and its works well. but I need blacklists. but squidguard dont work well with domain. and when i add blacklists in squid. my squid is slow. I try squid + mysql but performace is slow to because,I need acls domains and regex is slow in select. I need help.. to configure squidguard or use other redirector or let my acls faster. |
| 16:40.33 | tremon | err, except if you have a gpt disc in which case it will automatically embed itself in the bios_grub partition :) |
| 16:40.37 | lintguy | tremon: Then installing to first disk should work |
| 16:40.50 | lintguy | tremon: Ah, then it makes sense. |
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| 16:41.01 | Letchik | How do I setup fstab/crypttab/whatever else to get my full disks encryption working with lvm inside of luks containers? |
| 16:41.02 | tremon | yes, just choose the entire disk. Grub will do the right thing |
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| 16:41.50 | lintguy | Letchik: I've seen that question asked at stackoverflow, try searching there |
| 16:42.36 | tremon | Letchik: use luksformat on the raw partitions, and add them in crypttab. Then use pvcreate on the crypt devices (e.g. /dev/mapper/cryptp1) |
| 16:42.48 | Letchik | lintguy: Are you sure it's stackoverflow and not superuser.com or something else? |
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| 16:43.31 | Letchik | tremon: I have an existing system of lvm volumes on luks partitions, I need to know how to make debian mount luks partitions on startup. |
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| 16:43.46 | lintguy | tremon: Hm, that didn't work as expected. /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?). |
| 16:43.58 | tremon | did you try #squid? |
| 16:44.07 | tremon | knoxxje: ^^ |
| 16:44.12 | Letchik | Also what if my whole root is in an encrypted volume, how will system access /etc/crypttab then? |
| 16:44.19 | knoxxje | yes |
| 16:44.59 | tremon | Letchik: if your / is encrypted, the crypttab line for root is copied into the initramfs, included an askpass script |
| 16:44.59 | knoxxje | but I'm still waiting for reply. |
| 16:45.00 | lintguy | Letchik: Not really sure, no, it was a long time ago. |
| 16:45.33 | tremon | Letchik: naturally, /boot must be on an unencrypted partition then, unless you're pxebooting your kernels |
| 16:45.45 | Letchik | Yes, my boot is unencrypted. |
| 16:45.50 | Letchik | Everything else is encrypted. |
| 16:46.17 | tremon | knoxxje: ok, just making sure :). I can't help you further, just hang around |
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| 16:46.56 | tremon | Letchik: is encrypted already? Then what exactly are you asking? |
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| 16:47.43 | Letchik | tremon: I installed debian there and manually wrote encrypted partitions into crypttab but now it fails to load and I guess I did something wrong. |
| 16:48.06 | tremon | lintguy: can you paste both /proc/mounts and /boot/grub/device.map? |
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| 16:49.00 | Letchik | As far as I understand, all I need to do is include encrypted physical partitions in crypttab and lvm volumes in fstab - is that right? |
| 16:49.24 | lintguy | tremon: I'm on a rescue system, so i guess i need to mount the drives to the right places first. |
| 16:49.47 | sashman | is there a opensrc firewall u can recommend? |
| 16:50.01 | knoxxje | [tremon]: thankss... ^^ |
| 16:50.19 | tremon | Letchik: yes, that's correct. But sometimes if you use uuid's for your / in fstab, update-initramfs fails to detect the crypt/lvm dependency. does your fstab contain a /dev/mapper device for /, or a UUID=? |
| 16:50.21 | SirLagz | sashman: iptables |
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| 16:50.42 | sashman | SirLagz: thuvm |
| 16:51.00 | SirLagz | sashman: np |
| 16:51.01 | sashman | SirLagz: and vpn handler? open vpn? |
| 16:51.14 | SirLagz | sashman: that would be the first one htat comes to mind |
| 16:51.28 | tremon | lintguy: yes. You need to mount / and /boot, and bind-mount at least /dev and /sys from the rescue system. Then run install-grub from within the chroot, at least that's what I would do |
| 16:51.28 | SirLagz | sashman: never used openvpn though so I'm not sure whether it's good or easy to use etc. |
| 16:52.01 | lintguy | tremon: yeah, i'm now trying to figure out how to use lvm2 to mount root to /mnt |
| 16:52.19 | tremon | Letchik: also, don't forget to actually run update-initramfs :) |
| 16:52.28 | sashman | SirLagz: mh k, its like standard for most and quite works very well and many devs for vpns clients build on top of the source of it. |
| 16:52.31 | schuschu | sashman: open vpn is nice |
| 16:52.31 | Letchik | tremon: what is update-initramfs? |
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| 16:53.21 | tremon | lintguy: vgchange -ay [vg-name] to make the volumes available |
| 16:53.48 | lintguy | tremon: i just did that and managed to mount the root. |
| 16:54.06 | lintguy | tremon: but when i try to mount boot i get mount: /dev/sdb already mounted or /mnt/boot busy |
| 16:54.54 | tremon | lintguy: your /boot partition is where the /boot/linux-image* files live. It's not the same as where the grub bootloader is installed |
| 16:54.54 | lintguy | tremon: i figured boot partition was the ext3 one, and that mounted. |
| 16:55.13 | lintguy | tremon: then i guessed right ;) |
| 16:56.18 | tremon | lintguy: then mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev && mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys, chroot /mnt |
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| 16:56.40 | lintguy | tremon: Just did that |
| 16:56.49 | lintguy | tremon: now, how to install grub :) |
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| 16:57.17 | lintguy | i also did chroot /mnt |
| 16:57.33 | ElDiabolo | knoxxje, This can well be a performance problem by design. If you need regexes on the URLs is no index lookup of whatever kind. |
| 16:58.02 | ElDiabolo | s/URLs is/URLs there is/ |
| 16:58.07 | tremon | iirc, it's simply grub-install '(hd0)', but you may want to dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc (I think that's the correct package name) |
| 16:58.48 | tremon | Letchik: update-initramfs is what you use to update the kernel boot sequence |
| 16:58.48 | ElDiabolo | knoxxje, What is the size of those blacklists? |
| 16:59.38 | knoxxje | [ElDiabolo]: in my db or in text mode? |
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| 17:00.36 | ElDiabolo | knoxxje, How many rows - just to have a rough idea. |
| 17:00.49 | lintguy | tremon: I think i made a boo-boo… i did apt-get purge grub grub-pc grub-common |
| 17:01.02 | lintguy | tremon: that removed the proxmox kernel :-O |
| 17:01.31 | tremon | that shouldn't happen, but I can't vouch for anything proxmox |
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| 17:01.53 | knoxxje | [ElDiabolo]: one minute |
| 17:01.57 | lintguy | tremon: who can?.. it's not like i can afford their support. |
| 17:03.00 | lintguy | tremon: i'm guessing the rescue system didn't have the proxmox repository in apt, so it thought it was not a valid kernel |
| 17:03.08 | tremon | well, as long as the system is running you don't need any kernel files |
| 17:03.27 | lintguy | tremon: it's not booting, so i guess all the kernels where deleted... |
| 17:03.36 | knoxxje | [ElDiabolo]: 3651124 , I use urlblacklists |
| 17:04.04 | knoxxje | [ElDiabolo]: urlblacklist.com |
| 17:04.04 | lintguy | tremon: what log file do i check for boot problems? syslog? |
| 17:04.22 | tremon | lintguy: are the kernel files removed, or are there no kernels listed in the grub menu? Because the latter is fixable |
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| 17:04.42 | ElDiabolo | knoxxje, I have no idea how those can be fast without indexes. |
| 17:04.47 | Letchik | Somewhy when I try to mount /dev/mapper/my_lvm_root_volume somewhere, it says failed: invalid argument. How do I check if there is a file system on that volume? |
| 17:05.03 | tremon | Letchik: use blkid, or file -s |
| 17:05.19 | tremon | also check dmesg |
| 17:05.23 | Letchik | tremon: it's ext4 |
| 17:05.27 | Letchik | but mount doesn't work |
| 17:05.39 | lintguy | tremon: I'll check once i get into the rescue again. Where are the grub menu located? |
| 17:05.47 | tremon | is ext4 listed in /proc/filesystems? can you modprobe ext4? |
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| 17:06.17 | Letchik | hha |
| 17:06.23 | Letchik | tremon: it's not |
| 17:06.23 | Letchik | ok |
| 17:06.35 | wyvern666 | hi, there is a spanish channel for debian? |
| 17:06.36 | Letchik | tremon: |
| 17:06.37 | Letchik | thx |
| 17:06.43 | Letchik | tremon: I modprobed it and it works. |
| 17:06.58 | tremon | lintguy: it's /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 17:07.17 | tremon | !es |
| 17:07.18 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 17:07.27 | tremon | wyvern666: looks like there is :) |
| 17:07.41 | knoxxje | [ElDiabolo]: I need only protect my network , porn and virus but as my squid is configured with the ad. And squidguard not running AD authentication. I can not make it work. |
| 17:07.41 | wyvern666 | thanks! |
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| 17:09.21 | knoxxje | [ElDiabolo]: I tried with sql and you think that I will get indexed faster? the problem is that the sql does not recognize domain.. |
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| 17:10.28 | knoxxje | [ElDiabolo]: if I register cnn.com , my script dont recgnize www.cnn.com |
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| 17:11.22 | reber83 | hi |
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| 17:13.19 | Letchik | tremon: What do I need to do to use update-initramfs? Do I have to chroot into system with mounted volumes or what? |
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| 17:13.41 | reber83 | i've tried a lot of things, including testing winetricks, installing the equivalent of moonlight for firefox, etc. All failed. Does anyone succeed in watching these videos ? :http://www.france5.fr/c-dans-l-air/environnement/meteo-lete-de-tous-les-dangers-39520 |
| 17:14.18 | tremon | Letchik: you need at least a chroot with /usr and /dev available, not sure about /proc or /sys |
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| 17:16.28 | lintguy | tremon: There is no kernels in the list :-( |
| 17:16.54 | tremon | lintguy: ok, but are the kernels in /boot? |
| 17:17.09 | reber83 | anyone can play this video ? http://www.france5.fr/c-dans-l-air/environnement/meteo-lete-de-tous-les-dangers-39520 |
| 17:17.50 | lintguy | tremon: yes |
| 17:18.17 | lintguy | tremon: if this is a kernel - initrd.img-2.6.32-22-pve |
| 17:18.27 | lintguy | at least it's named like one |
| 17:18.36 | Letchik | How do I get my /proc in chrooted environment? |
| 17:18.37 | tremon | ok, then you should simply be able to reinstall grub and it will regenerate a correct menu.cfg |
| 17:19.02 | tremon | Letchik: mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc from outside the chroot (assuming your chroot is at /mnt) |
| 17:19.30 | LtL | reber83: surprisingly, no it doesn't play. |
| 17:19.58 | tremon | lintguy: the kernel is named vmlinuz-* or similar |
| 17:20.05 | reber83 | LtL, yeap, i'm trying got play these videos for months ... |
| 17:20.29 | lintguy | tremon: i did a grub-install, but still nothing in the grub.cfg |
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| 17:20.52 | tremon | that's correct, you need update-grub |
| 17:21.04 | reber83 | it's a moonlight thingy crap i can't even get vlc to play it ... |
| 17:21.20 | lintguy | tremon: it only finds memtest, no kernels |
| 17:21.34 | LtL | reber83: I rarely find a video format i cannot play, however your's is one of them. no idea why or what format it is. |
| 17:21.56 | jdoles | Is the Debian website also open-source? |
| 17:22.20 | jdoles | !website |
| 17:23.13 | lintguy | tremon: installing kernel now. |
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| 17:23.41 | lintguy | tremon: now it's added to the grub.cfg |
| 17:24.00 | tremon | lintguy: that may be a proxmox issue, I think I've seen that before. I'm not sure the normal debian kernels boot on their systems |
| 17:24.15 | canolucas | hi, i'm using debian as a firewall! I have 3 network cards. 2 for internet, and one for LAN. i'm trying to configure one subnet to work with the two internet cards. (if one network connection is down, to be able to use the other one automatically). is there a way to achieve this with iptables? |
| 17:24.36 | lintguy | tremon: it's messy, that's for sure. I have 4 nodes, so i always do upgrades one by one because something always messes up. |
| 17:24.37 | canolucas | right now i use this, but it doesnt work: |
| 17:25.10 | canolucas | http://pastie.org/8219214 |
| 17:25.12 | canolucas | thank you |
| 17:26.40 | Letchik | How do I turn off debian if there is no shutdown program and halt just does nothing? |
| 17:27.02 | tremon | lintguy: grub's menu.cfg is generated (partly) from /etc/grub.d/10_linux, the kernel detection is around line 135. If the proxmox kernels don't match those wildcards. |
| 17:27.21 | lintguy | tremon: it probably doesn't |
| 17:27.32 | lintguy | tremon: now the node is up and running wheezy perfectly. |
| 17:27.34 | tremon | ... you might be able to edit the script |
| 17:27.45 | lintguy | tremon: Thanks for all the help! Couldn't have done it without you |
| 17:28.09 | tremon | yw, but you said 2.6.32 kernel. Wheezy is at 3.2 |
| 17:28.36 | lintguy | tremon: I know, that's probably why it removed the other kernels because 3.2 is newer. |
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| 17:28.50 | lintguy | tremon: proxmox still run the old kernels since they use their own custom kernels |
| 17:29.24 | tremon | Letchik: you could try telinit 6, but it halt does nothing, probably that won't reboot the box either. do you have local console access? |
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| 17:29.48 | tremon | lintguy: oh well, as long as it works |
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| 17:30.22 | Letchik | tremon: not sure what that means about local console. I have that console that I get after debian failing to load. Anyway I've already just powered it off. |
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| 17:30.44 | lintguy | tremon: it does, proxmox is by far the best openvz cluster panel out there. |
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| 17:32.19 | lintguy | tremon: again, thanks for the help |
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| 17:34.15 | Danic | Hi there! I have Debian 6 on a virtual machine that runs on Kernel 2.6, so I cannot upgrade to Debian 7. But am I able to use the packages from Debian 7? So can I simply upgrade my sources.list and run aptitude upgrade (without aptitude dist-upgrade)? |
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| 17:35.39 | zykotick9 | Danic: mixing binary debian versions, will lead to tears most likely. why can't you upgrade to wheezy? you need a 2.6 kernel for some reason? |
| 17:36.20 | Danic | The vm uses the host machine kernel. I am not the owner of the host. |
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| 17:36.37 | Danic | Some fucked up virtualization, I don't know. |
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| 17:37.51 | lxsameer | hi I have a multiarch environment on sid, i want to install libfreetype6-dev:i386 but apt wants to remove some of my most important packages like build-essential, why? |
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| 17:39.01 | tremon | !tell lxsameer about bat |
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| 17:40.59 | zep | Hi, is there a command that a testuser that belongs only to the group testuser can run (maybe he needs to be listed in sudoers first) in order to mount usb stick as if he belonged to the group plugdev/floppy. So he can't access the mounted usb stick dirctly but can cp to it (if he is in sudoers and can run cp as floppy group member). |
| 17:41.47 | lxsameer | tremon: http://dpaste.com/1335882/ |
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| 17:50.11 | tremon | lxsameer: I see nothing obviously wrong there, although I'm not sure the multilib packages are fully compatible with multiarch |
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| 17:50.56 | lxsameer | tremon: why apt try to remote build-essential ? |
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| 17:52.49 | tremon | lxsameer: not sure, try aptitude -W install libfreetype6-dev:i386, maybe even reject the first few suggestions |
| 17:53.18 | lxsameer | tremon: thanks man |
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| 17:54.55 | sheap | trying to run HL2 on debian7, but i need mesa 9.0, which will not configure without libxml2 (python module) which I already have installed....anyone gone through this before? |
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| 17:55.43 | jelly-home | sheap: are you positive mesa needs a python module, and not a C development library and headers? |
| 17:56.49 | sheap | well running through 'configure' the only error i get is: configure: error: failed to find required module libxml2 |
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| 17:57.40 | jelly-home | sheap: apt-cache search libxml2 dev |
| 17:57.47 | tremon | sheap: HL2 == half life 2, through wine? |
| 17:57.58 | sheap | tremon native steam client |
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| 17:58.19 | tremon | ah ok, do you know if the client is 64-bit or 32? |
| 17:58.20 | sheap | jelly-home already installed |
| 17:58.34 | jelly-home | sheap: which one, libxml2-dev ? |
| 17:58.41 | sheap | yea |
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| 17:58.56 | sheap | tremon i think it's 32 |
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| 17:59.22 | jelly-home | sheap: which linux distro does that client actually support? |
| 17:59.26 | lintguy | Danic: wheezy works just fine on 2.6.x kernels |
| 17:59.34 | jdoles | sheap: the version of HL2 which comes just on physical media works with an ancient version of wine. |
| 17:59.47 | Danic | lintguy does it? very nice :) |
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| 18:00.04 | jdoles | sheap: are you trying to build wine from scratch? |
| 18:00.05 | jelly-home | lintguy: it fails on RHEL5's 2.6.18, and requires a feature found around 2.6.30 or so |
| 18:00.06 | tremon | ah, if you're running 64-bit then that may get a bit hairy., because you will need install the 32-bit versions of those libraries |
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| 18:00.40 | sheap | jdones running steam natively on debian |
| 18:00.49 | sheap | jelly-home debian/opensuse/fedora |
| 18:00.52 | sheap | ubuntu |
| 18:00.53 | jelly-home | Danic: which 2.6 kernel is there? |
| 18:00.59 | jdoles | sheap: ok, so you just get an error message when you run some binary?> |
| 18:01.18 | jelly-home | sheap: if you need to build stuff, then it does NOT work on debian... |
| 18:01.19 | Danic | jelly-home, its 2.6.32-028stab092.1 |
| 18:01.38 | jelly-home | Danic: oh, openvz kernel for centos 6? That might work. |
| 18:01.45 | sheap | jdoles: half-life 2 requires mesa 9.0, wheezy has 8.2, trying to compile mesa 9.0 and getting an error when I configure saying it cannnot find 'libxml2' even though i have it installed |
| 18:02.00 | jelly-home | Danic: try it on a test system first. |
| 18:02.20 | Danic | jelly-home I have no clue! :D I will just try it and report back. I tried it with Ubuntu 10 to 12 already and it was baaaad :D |
| 18:02.24 | jdoles | sheap: half-life 2 used to work with mesa < 7. |
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| 18:02.40 | jdoles | sheap: but perhaps they still maintain their games. |
| 18:02.56 | jelly-home | sheap: in that case, I'd probably use an ubuntu 13.04 chroot set up with debootstrap or some nicer wrapper for debootstrap |
| 18:03.25 | jdoles | sheap: you should then check how the configure check works internally. |
| 18:03.44 | jdoles | sheap: based on that, make sure the check passes by passing the proper flags and try again. |
| 18:03.54 | sheap | jdoles the error i get when running hl2 is that i need to install S3TC texture support, which i came to the conclusion that mesa 9.0 was needed |
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| 18:04.03 | jelly-home | sheap: having a custom mesa and libgl1* on the system can be... problematic |
| 18:04.44 | lintguy | gaming in linux?… |
| 18:04.56 | sheap | whaaaaaaaaat |
| 18:04.57 | sheap | whooooooo |
| 18:04.58 | sheap | would |
| 18:04.59 | sheap | have |
| 18:05.00 | sheap | thought |
| 18:05.05 | lintguy | still only Halflife 2 that works well enough? :-P |
| 18:05.18 | sheap | doesnt work at all |
| 18:05.22 | lintguy | just mocking the bad support. |
| 18:05.25 | jdoles | I played HL2 a month after it was released. |
| 18:05.33 | jdoles | (on Linux) |
| 18:05.43 | jdoles | It worked perfectly. |
| 18:05.50 | lintguy | And still playing it… because no new games work. |
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| 18:06.08 | jdoles | lintguy: this isn't #whineaboutgames. |
| 18:06.23 | lintguy | Wansnt rage support to have linux support? |
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| 18:06.33 | jdoles | Nobody cares. |
| 18:06.44 | Danic | jelly-home, yes it worked without issues :) |
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| 18:06.55 | Danic | jelly-home, the upgrade to wheezy n 2.6 kernel |
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| 18:07.00 | lintguy | i'm not whining about games, i'm whining about the bad support for graphics in linux |
| 18:07.11 | jdoles | lintguy: then you are just uninformed. |
| 18:07.17 | jelly-home | Danic: does it work even after a "reboot"? |
| 18:07.23 | jdoles | lintguy: there is excellent support for graphics in Linux. |
| 18:07.32 | lintguy | lol, right. |
| 18:07.36 | Danic | jelly-home :facepalm: lets see :D |
| 18:07.40 | jdoles | lintguy: it's just that your favorite vendors don't supply it. |
| 18:07.52 | lintguy | correct. |
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| 18:08.16 | jdoles | lintguy: very high performance games do work on Linux and with the right developers have worked since at least 10 years. |
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| 18:08.36 | lintguy | and the display server war is just for the fun of it |
| 18:08.44 | jhutchins | Windows games, on the other hand... |
| 18:09.00 | qman__ | calling it a "war" is grossly misleading |
| 18:09.08 | jdoles | lintguy: people have been trying to replace X for two decades. |
| 18:09.14 | qman__ | it's more like a couple small groups squabbilng while everyone else still uses Xort |
| 18:09.27 | qman__ | Xorg* |
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| 18:09.50 | jdoles | If Debian ever switches display server, I am sure that it will work just fine. |
| 18:10.07 | jdoles | And I am sure, I wouldn't have to care a terrible lot about it. |
| 18:10.11 | lintguy | didn't ubuntu switch on 13.04 ? |
| 18:10.16 | lintguy | or was that postponed? |
| 18:10.34 | jdoles | lintguy: who cares about that? They didn't even release a LTS version for that. |
| 18:10.38 | sheap | maaaaaan |
| 18:10.40 | sheap | this sucks |
| 18:10.45 | jdoles | lintguy: so, until then it's just a bunch of whining developers. |
| 18:10.51 | lintguy | ok |
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| 18:11.25 | lintguy | well, i had a terrible experience getting my nvidia card working on 12.04, all related to xorg. |
| 18:11.41 | jdoles | lintguy: how do you know it's xorg and not nvidia? |
| 18:11.45 | tremon | sheap: if you're only missing s3tc support, have you tried libtxc? |
| 18:11.51 | jelly-home | lintguy, jdoles: that's not really a debian tech support issue |
| 18:12.04 | jelly-home | #debian-offtopic is next door to the left |
| 18:12.09 | lintguy | jdoles: probably both. |
| 18:12.12 | jdoles | lintguy: goodbye |
| 18:12.15 | lintguy | who knows. |
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| 18:12.50 | ompaul | lintguy: ubuntu 12.04 is not debian, why are you even here |
| 18:13.01 | ompaul | actually sorry, don't answer that |
| 18:13.07 | sheap | tremon: trying that out |
| 18:13.22 | sheap | success! |
| 18:13.25 | sheap | everything is green |
| 18:13.27 | sheap | but it works |
| 18:14.17 | lintguy | i'm not here to talk ubuntu. |
| 18:14.39 | lintguy | sorry for mentioning the thing we do not speak about. |
| 18:14.41 | ompaul | lintguy: and what you are talking about is offtopic |
| 18:15.05 | sheap | tremon: thank you! :) |
| 18:15.13 | sheap | had to install the i386 one but it works |
| 18:15.30 | tremon | there is a better library out there (a real s3tc implementation, http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/S3TC/) but I don't think it's packaged for debian |
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| 18:15.56 | lintguy | ompaul: sorry, i'll try not to stray again. |
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| 18:16.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | stray sheap :P |
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| 18:17.00 | lintguy | stray sheap are off topic |
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| 18:17.26 | Hell-Razor | hey fellas. just wondering if i could start a _little_ distro war. I've used gentoo for about five years in the past but recently moved back to windows for a bit now I'm finally looking to go back to nix
long story short I'm debating about moving to, or giving debian, a shot |
| 18:17.38 | lintguy | ... |
| 18:17.47 | sheap | CutMeOwnThroat :) |
| 18:17.48 | ompaul | !tell Hell-Razor about install |
| 18:17.50 | jelly-home | !start a distro war |
| 18:18.09 | ompaul | fires some aol cds around to cause collateral damage |
| 18:18.28 | jdoles | Hell-Razor: I would like to applaud your persistence. |
| 18:18.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | distro wars are offtopic, even little ones |
| 18:18.43 | Hell-Razor | jdoles, lol of staying with gentoo? |
| 18:18.46 | jdoles | Hell-Razor: yes |
| 18:18.55 | jelly-home | CutMeOwnThroat: all distro wars welcome in #debian-offtopic? |
| 18:19.08 | ompaul | jelly-home: I'm on for it |
| 18:19.12 | lintguy | yay, off topic |
| 18:19.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | jelly-home, all distro wars where debian wins in the end, I think |
| 18:19.39 | govinda_ | is debian better than windows 98? |
| 18:20.08 | sheap | govinda_ no |
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| 18:20.08 | Hell-Razor | jdoles, I've tried others i should say.. like ubuntu (oh god), knoppix for the hell of it, fedora, redhead, mandrake.. what really drove me nuts is the layout vs everything else.. which is why i always moved back to gentoo |
| 18:20.19 | Hell-Razor | alright CutMeOwnThroat |
| 18:20.40 | jelly-home | govinda_: it some aspects, yes. It's still supported by the vendor. |
| 18:21.01 | govinda_ | is devian better thna ubuntu? |
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| 18:21.45 | jelly-home | govinda_: better for what? |
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| 18:21.57 | govinda_ | for compute |
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| 18:22.18 | sashman | how can i check which gfx driver is installed or running and is it recommendend to install nvidia-kernel-dkms? |
| 18:22.23 | jdoles | Hell-Razor: the layout, of what? |
| 18:22.43 | jdoles | Hell-Razor: software wise every Linux system can be made to look like any other Linux system. |
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| 18:23.10 | Hell-Razor | jdoles, yeah. jump to -offtopic |
| 18:23.13 | Hell-Razor | if you wouldn't mind |
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| 18:24.34 | tremon | sashman: the only way I know is simply reading /var/log/Xorg.*.log |
| 18:24.45 | jelly-home | govinda_: they are both competent OSes an can be used for almost anything a general purpose computer does. |
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| 18:27.12 | sashman | tremon: cool :) |
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| 18:27.59 | govinda_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.52 | jelly-home | govinda_: type this in your irc client and read the prviate response from the dpkg bot: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 18:29.43 | govinda_ | type this in your irc client and read the prviate response from the dpkg bot: /msg dpkg why debian |
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| 18:31.24 | beatnix | hello |
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| 18:32.38 | beatnix | got a question about iscsi |
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| 18:33.09 | jhutchins | !br |
| 18:33.09 | dpkg | Este canal é apenas em inglês. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:33.31 | Rackmount | beatnix: go ahead and ask. If someone knows the answer to your question, they will answer you. |
| 18:34.03 | beatnix | when initiator sends sync cache SCSI command |
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| 18:34.28 | beatnix | will that trigger a flush cache command on a sata target LUN ? |
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| 18:36.00 | beatnix | for example filesystem barriers like with ext3/4 and XFS, these will flush on disk cache using low level drivers |
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| 18:36.34 | beatnix | will barriers work if the iscsi target is a SATA device? |
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| 18:36.56 | beatnix | or its safer to disable on disk cache on the target machine? |
| 18:37.23 | reber83 | ca anyone play this video please ? http://www.france5.fr/c-dans-l-air/environnement/meteo-lete-de-tous-les-dangers-39520 |
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| 18:37.56 | tremon | beatnix: it depends more on the firmware than linux. Linux doesn't treat iscsi any different from regular sata channels fafaik |
| 18:38.28 | beatnix | yes i talk about the iscsi target implementation :) |
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| 18:39.02 | beatnix | will it ignore iscsi sync cache command? or will it honor it by sending flush cache sata command? :) |
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| 18:39.14 | Danic | jelly-home restarted, still working as a charm. thanks for the hints! |
| 18:39.42 | hramrach | hello |
| 18:39.53 | hramrach | how do I diagnose a wifi problem? |
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| 18:40.02 | tremon | beatnix: ah, you mean linux as iscsi target, not the initiator. Sorry, have never used it :) |
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| 18:40.35 | hramrach | I can connect to some acces points and not others |
| 18:41.37 | hramrach | the access points are reportedly useble by others and I connected to one of hte m with chromium but Debian does not connect to them |
| 18:43.00 | sheap | man all that work and it wasnt even that fun |
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| 18:44.15 | hramrach | the only relevant message seems to be ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): mlan0: link is not ready |
| 18:44.58 | hramrach | but wth failed there? |
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| 18:45.51 | beatnix | tremon: what you mean that linux treats iscsi as any sata device? |
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| 18:47.27 | tremon | beatnix: I meant the iscsi initiator, it just registers as an additional sata (scsi) channel to the kernel (right?) |
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| 18:48.53 | beatnix | tremon: yes but initiators send scsi commands, low level scsi commands, i have no idea about protol details but i believe it is as i mentioned |
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| 18:49.42 | tremon | yes. However I have no idea if the linux iscsi target is as transparent as the initiator is, and what scsi command set it supports |
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| 18:58.10 | sashman | is recovery mode = single user mode? |
| 18:58.30 | ezra-s | yes |
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| 18:59.04 | ZIPY | how can i kill a python process that doesnt shutdown on pkill python |
| 18:59.32 | rryoumaa | on the web, how do i show the popularity contest votes for a particular type of package, like firewall generators? |
| 18:59.46 | ezra-s | ZIPY, kill -9 should do |
| 18:59.50 | jelly-home | ZIPY: is it listed on pgrep python ? |
| 19:00.09 | ZIPY | jelly-home: yes |
| 19:00.14 | ZIPY | pid 11730 |
| 19:00.25 | jelly-home | ZIPY: pkill -9 python, then |
| 19:00.49 | ZIPY | kill: failed to parse argument: 'python' |
| 19:00.49 | jelly-home | you might kill some other pythons with that if you're not careful |
| 19:01.06 | jelly-home | ZIPY: failed to read and/or copy paste from irc |
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| 19:01.16 | sashman | does sb know what the -9 stand for? ^^ |
| 19:01.26 | jelly-home | sashman: yes. man 7 signal |
| 19:01.49 | sashman | ok :) |
| 19:02.12 | jelly-home | sashman: also, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_signal |
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| 19:02.43 | sashman | cool thx |
| 19:02.45 | ZIPY | oh worked |
| 19:02.45 | jelly-home | sashman: read about SIGKILL in there |
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| 19:04.44 | tremon | ZIPY: which app was it? quodlibet? |
| 19:04.54 | ZIPY | tremon: couchpotato |
| 19:05.33 | tremon | I have a similar problem with quodlibet, it doesn't release the audio device when it quits |
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| 19:05.58 | tremon | just curious |
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| 19:09.05 | jhutchins | hramrach: It's possible that it's incompatible hardware, or that the type of encryption used by the AP is implemented differently by Linux than by other systems. |
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| 19:09.26 | jhutchins | hramrach: You could try booting to various live flavors of linux and see if any of them work. |
| 19:09.54 | jhutchins | hramrach: Otherwise the only way is to go through the connection steps manually from the console to see where it's actually failing. |
| 19:10.19 | jhutchins | hramrach: There's a little bit of info in dmesg and /var/log/messages, but wifi is very hard to troubleshoot without exotic gear. |
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| 19:11.40 | jhutchins | hramrach: I've seen cases where the way one device limited how the keys could be entered made it incompatible with a key used on a different machine. For instance, an AP allowed a key shorter than the defined space to be entered, but a device trying to connect required all of the digits to be filled. |
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| 19:16.15 | fartface | In VMM (virtual machine manager), is there a way to specify where the virtual machine disk is stored? The core OS is on a small (60GB) SSD, but I have a 9TB RAID5 array I'd like to use for storing my VMs |
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| 19:17.02 | fartface | Alternatively, is there a way to create the disk via command line, specifying a path? The documentation on libvirt.org is pretty spotty unfortunately. |
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| 19:19.52 | qman__ | fartface, yes, you click the radio button next to "select existing or other storage", browse to the location, and then click new volume |
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| 19:20.13 | fartface | Ohhh! Mother of god, I feel stupid. |
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| 19:21.01 | qman__ | there is a command line way to do it but I don't know off the top of my head |
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| 19:27.49 | jhutchins | Which virtualization is this? |
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| 19:29.47 | fartface | KVM/qEMU, the GUI way worked, going in through the command-line wasn't necessary |
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| 19:31.03 | fartface | Had to start a VNC session for it, but I was creating a Windows machine anyway, so would've had to go in through the GUI to easily do the installation as it was an ISO from MSDN and not setup to be unattended |
| 19:31.15 | qman__ | it doesn't matter much as long as it runs libvirt, which I find excellent |
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| 19:33.22 | hramrach | jhutchins: how do you know what the connection steps are so you can go through them on hte console? |
| 19:33.54 | Deeps | fartface: unfortunately, this is one of the reasons why i'm glad we have commercial solutions like vmware as well. can give it an iso and fill out a couple of basic params at the start and it'll do an unattend install quite painlessly |
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| 19:34.09 | hramrach | you get wicd generating a temporary config for wpa_supplicant which then passes something to the kernel which then somehow fails |
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| 19:34.24 | hramrach | and none of this is logged anywhere |
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| 19:34.58 | hramrach | and it's not like wpa_supplicant is a well documented piece of software |
| 19:35.01 | Noturno99 | hey guys, what's your favorite program for social network at wheezy? |
| 19:35.15 | hramrach | and it's the most complex part right in hte middle |
| 19:35.33 | hramrach | Noturno99: weechat ;-) |
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| 19:36.24 | Noturno99 | hramrach, but you can access twitter with it? |
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| 19:38.52 | jhutchins | hramrach: No, all I know is VMWare and Parallels. |
| 19:38.56 | ntiy | hi all. any suggestion about why would postfix be able to send mail to any email address but not to gmail? |
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| 19:39.36 | jhutchins | ntiy: gmail is blocking your server for any one of a long list of reasons. |
| 19:39.51 | jhutchins | ntiy: The bounce messages should be meaningful. |
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| 19:42.55 | ntiy | jhutchins: http://pastebin.com/802Yxcby -- I don't see anything that would indicate a problem... |
| 19:43.44 | qman__ | ntiy, the bounce back messages, not the postfix log |
| 19:43.54 | ntiy | oh sh~#$! |
| 19:44.01 | qman__ | gmail (and many other mail providers) are very picky about what mail they will accept and not mark as spam |
| 19:44.05 | ntiy | it's in a freaking spam box!! |
| 19:44.07 | ntiy | stupid me |
| 19:44.15 | ntiy | sorry for bothering everyone |
| 19:44.47 | ntiy | once I am at it. What is bounce message? |
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| 19:46.06 | qman__ | ntiy, when a mail provider rejects a message, it sends a bounce message back to the sender |
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| 19:46.24 | qman__ | explaining why, usually it gets caught as spam, or is being delivered to the wrong server |
| 19:46.59 | qman__ | in your case, gmail accepted the message but marked it as spam |
| 19:47.03 | qman__ | so there wouldn't be one |
| 19:47.11 | ntiy | qman__: ok. I never received that and I see that I shoun't have -- message is in my mailbox (but filtered out to spam folder) so there was no bounce message |
| 19:47.13 | ntiy | right |
| 19:47.15 | ntiy | got it |
| 19:47.18 | ntiy | many thanks |
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| 19:52.11 | markovh | are there any more source friendly package management tools/methods for debian packages out there? |
| 19:53.14 | markovh | i use debian packages with a few small changes. one or two compile options and some extra code written but i want to pull in debian updates (especially security ones) automatically. it'd be great if there was an option to take in a config file on build instructons and on new updates to the package, pull it down, build it and install it |
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| 19:54.59 | hramrach | markovh: you praobably want a source distro |
| 19:55.32 | jhutchins | markovh: You could set something like that up, the components exist, but you'd probably have to build it yourself. |
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| 19:55.38 | markovh | the thing is i really like debian and it's just this one package i want to maintani |
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| 19:55.52 | jhutchins | markovh: I use RedHat's satellite and it really doesn't have any provisions for that, although it could be done. |
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| 19:56.16 | jesther | markovh,http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-software.en.html#s-buildenv |
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| 19:56.26 | jhutchins | markovh: Subscribe to the announce lists and put a filter that does something when your package is updated. |
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| 19:57.00 | markovh | yeah i have a build env |
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| 19:57.19 | markovh | build-dep is really handy as well |
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| 19:57.43 | markovh | even if i'm not building from debian sources i prefer to use this to easily get most of the libraries i'll need to build it myself |
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| 19:59.59 | jesther | markovh, there's even a wiki for developers. should check it out. |
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| 20:00.05 | jesther | http://wiki.debian.org |
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| 20:03.23 | karl_k | hi ! I have just installed a fresh debian wheezy using a lvm volume as root. When booting it does not find the lvm volumes and drops to initramfs. I have to do lvm;vgchange -ay;exit;exit to boot. |
| 20:03.36 | karl_k | Any idea what to do to get wheezy to boot from lvm ? |
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| 20:08.14 | aleksey2013 | всем привет |
| 20:08.24 | aleksey2013 | есть ктонить нужна помощь оч |
| 20:09.08 | aleksey2013 | на видео полоса мигает иногда типо искажение и на ней кубики как в фотошопе серые ) на чистом фоне |
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| 20:10.13 | nkuttler | aleksey2013: russian? |
| 20:10.16 | aleksey2013 | yes |
| 20:10.19 | nkuttler | !ru |
| 20:10.19 | dpkg | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
| 20:10.19 | aleksey2013 | help me |
| 20:10.27 | jhutchins | I was thinking maybe cat. |
| 20:10.28 | aleksey2013 | rus no help info |
| 20:10.34 | aleksey2013 | help & |
| 20:10.57 | nkuttler | aleksey2013: it's probably past midnight in most of russia.. try during daytime? |
| 20:11.10 | aleksey2013 | flashes on the video strip and cubes how to fix |
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| 20:11.49 | aleksey2013 | Russian could not help |
| 20:12.01 | aleksey2013 | help? |
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| 20:12.50 | nkuttler | aleksey2013: you'll have to ask a question we understand |
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| 20:13.33 | karl_k | anyone able to help me with root-on-lvm-boot failure ? |
| 20:13.47 | jhutchins | aleksey2013: If you're seeing video artefacts try reducing the refresh frequency and/or resolution. |
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| 20:15.24 | aleksey2013 | did not help |
| 20:15.30 | aleksey2013 | 1920 1080 60 |
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| 20:16.02 | LuGiX__ | hello, i have a problem with my linux installation, can someone help me? |
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| 20:17.10 | tremon | karl_k: what does your kernel command line look like? cat /proc/cmdline |
| 20:17.45 | knoxxje | [LuGiX__]: whats your problem? |
| 20:18.35 | aleksey2013 | BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-28-generic root=UUID=2aa6281f-2986-4fec-a107-fb9b5aa3e617 ro quiet splash |
| 20:19.01 | jelly-home | that doesn't look like a debian kernel |
| 20:20.09 | aleksey2013 | in setting the player has put in place has become a bit of Chapter xv gl but the problem is not solved |
| 20:20.18 | aleksey2013 | ubuntu |
| 20:20.20 | aleksey2013 | 13 |
| 20:20.38 | twobitsprite | ducks before food fight |
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| 20:20.59 | LuGiX__ | oh sorry XD |
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| 20:23.12 | LuGiX__ | i did move my Debian-RAID 0 to a new computer (new mainboard, same NVIDIA_Controller), but at start, the BIOS can only recognice one of the two Drives, the second one is displayed as "free". if i boot from a "Kubuntu" LiveCD and do a computer reboot, the RAID is recogniced as long as the Power of the PC isn't turned off. if i turn the power off, i have to boot from the CD again. |
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| 20:23.24 | LuGiX__ | (sry if bad english i'm german) |
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| 20:23.37 | aleksey2013 | hi gitler |
| 20:23.43 | aleksey2013 | de |
| 20:23.47 | aleksey2013 | xd |
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| 20:24.04 | funkster | what im looking to do is lock down my server from booting only on a specific server, possiibly look at mac addy or something unique, can I have this build into the bootloader or where could I put this? |
| 20:25.17 | LuGiX__ | can someone help me there? anything can help |
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| 20:26.07 | karl_k | tremon: i found a solution: as i boot from a usb stick it takes a while until the partition is available. adding rootdelay=20 to grub command line solved the problem |
| 20:26.10 | tremon | funkster: you want your server to boot a specific server? I guess you could tie a raspberry pi between the usb port of the server and the power on switch of the server, but I'm guessing that's not what you are looking for |
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| 20:26.18 | karl_k | thanks for trying to help ! |
| 20:26.50 | jelly-home | funkster: it's hard to use any sensible single bit of information for that. What happens when customer's server dies and they move the disks into new hardware? |
| 20:26.53 | funkster | tremon: let me rephrase. i want the SDHC card to boot only off a specific RPi |
| 20:27.16 | tremon | LuGiX__: best advice I can give you is to back up your entire disks, remove the software raid settings from the bios, and use linux md raid instead |
| 20:27.27 | ksuhku | that |
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| 20:27.48 | funkster | jelly-home: its not a customers server. |
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| 20:28.48 | tremon | funkster: so you have a debian installation on a disk, but you only want to boot it when the disk is connected to specific hardware? how secure do you want it to be? |
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| 20:29.05 | LuGiX__ | well, tremon, the RAID is working very well under the circumstance that i have to boot up the CD... i guess it's maybe the Kernel Driver which lasts in the RAM or something like that |
| 20:29.26 | funkster | tremon: thats correct. well i dont want it so someone and single user in and comment out a line that checks. one step more secure then that would be enough. |
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| 20:31.33 | tremon | LuGiX__: I wouldn't call "unbootable" the same as "working very well", but whatever floats your boat :) The problem with bios-raid is that it's not supported in #debian as we know nothing about it, you'd have to ask nvidia for support. |
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| 20:32.31 | tremon | funkster: what's your threat model? someone knicking the sd card but leaving the pi in place? Someone reading the contents of the sd card in a separate machine? |
| 20:33.34 | funkster | all i would need is for the card to boot on specific hardware, thats enough security that i need. the data is already encrypted. |
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| 20:34.36 | tremon | Hmm, I would have told you to write a cryptsetup hook that unlocks the rootfs based on some properties of the pi (e.g. mac address, bootloader signature) |
| 20:34.53 | reks | http://moveword.blogspot.com |
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| 20:35.23 | tremon | I guess you can write an init script/initramfs hook that sends the machine in a reboot loop based on those same property checks |
| 20:35.31 | tremon | or just hangs, of course |
| 20:35.44 | jelly-home | or eats the kitten |
| 20:36.00 | tremon | but such modifications can always be undone by commenting out a few lines |
| 20:36.29 | tremon | jelly-home: cats don't reproduce fast enough to sustain a pi reboot loop :) |
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| 20:36.56 | funkster | yeah. i was thinking same. just hide it well and it would be pretty tought to figure out where its being called. |
| 20:37.05 | jelly-home | tremon: thankfully there are lots already |
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| 20:37.51 | tremon | funkster: until someone boots with init=/bin/sh or even rdinit=/bin/sh |
| 20:37.52 | twobitsprite | glucas1337 |
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| 20:38.07 | twobitsprite | erm... no one saw that :P |
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| 20:38.27 | tremon | wags a finger |
| 20:38.35 | jelly-home | time to change that password, twobitsprite |
| 20:38.48 | twobitsprite | password, what password? I don't know what you're talking about :P |
| 20:39.20 | karl_k | exit |
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| 20:41.24 | funkster | tremon: i seee. so what are you suggesting i do? |
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| 20:44.30 | consumerism | i am setting up a new wheezy server, tried to install nmap and there are tons of dependencies including x11-common...wtf? http://pastebin.com/iSvvK3pj |
| 20:44.37 | tremon | funkster: as I said above. build an encrypted rootfs with a passphrase, then write a passkey script similar to /lib/cryptsetup/scripts/decrypt_derived. Put that script in /etc/crypttab (keyscript=), and use luksaddkey to add a second unlock key to the rootfs |
| 20:44.53 | tremon | (well, that's the extended version of what I said above) |
| 20:44.55 | consumerism | more readable http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iSvvK3pj |
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| 20:45.20 | mumpitzel | consumerism: don't install recommends |
| 20:45.50 | funkster | tremon: manually intervention of typining in a passcode isnt needed upon boot.? |
| 20:45.53 | consumerism | mumpitzel: can you elaborate? looks to me like there are 91 required packages which nmap depends on |
| 20:46.17 | mumpitzel | !recommends |
| 20:46.29 | ompaul | consumerism: in this case the suggested |
| 20:46.39 | mumpitzel | !why recommends |
| 20:46.39 | dpkg | From lenny onwards, apt-get and aptitude both install "Recommended" packages by default. From <policy> section 7.2, Recommends, "declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations." You're not that unusual, trust us. By not installing "recommended" packages you will be missing functionality. |
| 20:46.53 | tremon | funkster: it is the first time, but after that it can be automatically unlocked by the keyscript. Because you've added it as a second key, you can always unlock it with your passphrase too |
| 20:47.06 | tremon | useful if your pi dies or you overwrite the boot rom |
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| 20:47.08 | mumpitzel | of course what dpkg here writes is bullshit: servers are not desktops but the recommends make no difference. |
| 20:47.08 | holycow | hi guys |
| 20:47.15 | holycow | i am still running debian 5 on a box |
| 20:47.19 | holycow | where did the repos move to? |
| 20:47.42 | holycow | i thought it was archive.debian.org/debian main contrib non-free |
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| 20:48.04 | tremon | you can test the script on an encrypted ramdisk, only use it on your rootfs once it is able to automatically unlock the ramdisk. update-initramfs will automatically include the script in the initramfs if it is mentioned in the crypttab line for / |
| 20:48.24 | mumpitzel | holycow: your line misses the debian release you want to track |
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| 20:48.53 | mumpitzel | consumerism: disable recommends and you have suddenly a lot less dependencies |
| 20:49.03 | consumerism | mumpitzel: ok, so is disabling recommends for server installs sensible? is it just this one case that's absurd or will i be missing packages in other cases? |
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| 20:49.43 | mumpitzel | consumerism: it's a choice. a choice you make. I don't knwo what is sensible for you |
| 20:50.01 | holycow | danke |
| 20:50.29 | consumerism | ha. ok fair enough. well i will err on the side of not installing recommends at the risk of missing out sometimes |
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| 21:04.24 | onethfour3 | is there a debian command line calculator? |
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| 21:05.06 | tremon | bc |
| 21:05.47 | onethfour3 | can you do a calculation spit out the answer and then go back to command line? |
| 21:06.01 | mullein | echo "3+5" | bc |
| 21:06.16 | mullein | like that, onethfour3 ? |
| 21:06.24 | onethfour3 | yeah |
| 21:06.44 | onethfour3 | how do i do float division? |
| 21:06.44 | tremon | prefers echo $((3+5)) |
| 21:07.07 | mullein | bc -l |
| 21:07.40 | xai | prefers echo $[ 3 + 5 ] |
| 21:08.13 | onethfour3 | i would rather do: calc 3+5/20 |
| 21:08.21 | onethfour3 | or what-not |
| 21:08.43 | xai | onethfour3: bc give float results |
| 21:08.47 | xai | gives* |
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| 21:09.08 | onethfour3 | yeah only if yo uenable -l |
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| 21:09.52 | xai | "-l" is a problem?) |
| 21:09.56 | xai | You can alias that)) |
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| 21:11.21 | lxsameer | hi, is there any repo fo wine1.6 on sid ? |
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| 21:56.28 | le_n00b | hi |
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| 21:56.47 | le_n00b | i'm currently running wheezy unstable .. is it possible to "upgrade" to wheezy stable without a full reinstall ? |
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| 21:57.04 | jelly-home | le_n00b: yes. Pastebin your sources.list please. |
| 21:57.08 | harovali1 | hi, I'm running x11vnc and entering into it remotely with vncviewer. I'm trying to use -encodings "tight" but it errors saying jpeg is not supported. Should I install something extra in the debian server ? a library maybe? any help is greatly welcome |
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| 21:58.07 | le_n00b | http://pastebin.com/258F9AS6 |
| 21:58.49 | jelly-home | le_n00b: remove or comment out lines 2-4 |
| 21:59.42 | jelly-home | le_n00b: and vbox too, temporarily. Then read and check |
| 21:59.45 | jelly-home | !obsolete |
| 21:59.45 | dpkg | If you remove a repository from your sources.list (e.g. removing <dmm>), then you should check what packages you have installed from the other repository. Synaptic and aptitude have a "Obsolete and Locally Created Packages" list. Or, "aptitude search ~o". Note this doesn't include packages that exist in the repo at a different version to the one you have installed; see <not available> <list repositories>. |
| 22:00.02 | jelly-home | erm |
| 22:00.19 | jelly-home | that's not it, sorry |
| 22:00.28 | le_n00b | thanks jelly-home .. do i just apt-get update & apt-get dist-upgrade then ? |
| 22:00.34 | ompaul | le_n00b: if you have not done a dist-upgrade since wheezy was released then you can do that |
| 22:00.44 | ompaul | le_n00b: with only the wheezy line enabled |
| 22:01.06 | ompaul | le_n00b: however *** if you did a dist-upgrade or upgrade since wheezy was released you can't |
| 22:01.06 | jelly-home | le_n00b: that won't be safe enough if you installed from unstable or experimental |
| 22:01.40 | jelly-home | but is a decent first step I guess |
| 22:02.07 | ompaul | le_n00b: it may require --fix-missing and other stuff a few times on the way there |
| 22:02.17 | ompaul | in which case just do what apt tells you |
| 22:02.26 | ompaul | (unlikely but possible) |
| 22:02.37 | le_n00b | ok |
| 22:02.39 | le_n00b | i'll give it a go! |
| 22:02.39 | jelly-home | ompaul: what's that supposed to do |
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| 22:02.56 | jelly-home | don't remember ever needing or using it |
| 22:03.18 | ompaul | jelly-home: I've had to but then I'm on unstable most of the time |
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| 22:03.30 | ompaul | it cleans up some transition messes |
| 22:03.40 | ompaul | we don't know how much before release he stopped his d-us |
| 22:04.13 | ompaul | it might be possible that a d-u to unstable is the end result of something like that torrid affair |
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| 22:05.07 | ompaul | le_n00b: consider grabbing a coffee and a snack and a newpaper/mag/book keep an eye on the screen in case it pauses and enjoy the next while |
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| 22:05.26 | le_n00b | yup, thanks for help |
| 22:05.40 | le_n00b | d-u doesn't seem to be fetching too many packages so hopefully it's not a big change |
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| 22:06.23 | ompaul | le_n00b: that can be a good thing |
| 22:06.29 | ompaul | le_n00b: when did you last d-u |
| 22:06.55 | le_n00b | probably like jan/feb of this year |
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| 22:07.13 | ompaul | le_n00b: and what were you using experimental and unstable and testing for? |
| 22:07.22 | ompaul | just to track wheezy? |
| 22:07.31 | le_n00b | i needed to get a 3.2 kernel |
| 22:07.41 | ompaul | there were other ways |
| 22:08.02 | ompaul | if you get stuck like that again think about kmuto |
| 22:08.21 | ompaul | he does backported kernels to squeeze he is currently still doing it |
| 22:08.31 | le_n00b | oh man that's seriously handy |
| 22:08.36 | le_n00b | thanks for the tip |
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| 22:15.53 | jelly-home | the current wheezy kernel is 3.2.y |
| 22:16.20 | jelly-home | ,kernels |
| 22:16.21 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.10-rc7-686-pae (3.10~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 3.10-1-686-pae (3.10.3-1); jessie: 3.9-1-686-pae (3.9.8-1); wheezy-backports: 3.9-0.bpo.1-686-pae (3.9.6-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.46-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze3) |
| 22:16.36 | jelly-home | and squeeze-backports seems to have a copy |
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| 22:23.48 | lampshade____ | i've got a question from a system admin's point of view. i've set up a remote mysql db with ssl and want to perform a migration from the localhost to the remote server. is there a way to configure php's mysql client lib to use the global my.cnf client settings which defaults to SSL if available? |
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| 22:24.42 | lampshade____ | ideally i don't have to request programmers to change their code, but it seems like mysql_connect in php does not behave the same way as the command line mysql client |
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| 22:37.40 | zerick | Is it possible to resize, create partitions on hot ? |
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| 22:41.39 | sashman | is bumblee-nvidia still supported it isnt not in the repos anymore |
| 22:41.49 | sashman | -nt |
| 22:42.09 | sashman | bumblebee sry |
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| 22:44.56 | mechanicalduck | So what is the difference between reprepro and apt-cacher(-ng)? |
| 22:45.29 | mechanicalduck | the apt-cacher-ng does cache everything requested over it and in reprepro one can define what packages should be available (including custom packages?)? |
| 22:46.00 | ghostlines | good evening, because the OS is loaded into memory can I unmount all drives? I want to safely test auto power on when a power outage occurs |
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| 22:48.06 | sashman | ghostlines the whole os is running on mem? |
| 22:48.24 | ghostlines | thought that was the case by default |
| 22:48.37 | sashman | whats about the swap storage on mem too? |
| 22:48.54 | ghostlines | no, on disk |
| 22:49.23 | sashman | sry im no highend expert |
| 22:49.36 | sashman | but i think swap is necessary |
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| 22:50.04 | ghostlines | cool, I'll see if I can manually move swap to memory |
| 22:50.18 | ghostlines | thx, I forgot about swap |
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| 22:51.25 | james41382 | I am not open to open system-config-lvm properly either from the applications menu or the terminal. Has anyone experienced trouble with this? |
| 22:51.28 | james41382 | able* |
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| 22:51.54 | ghostlines | sashman, now all swap is in RAM by using the swapoff -a command |
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| 22:52.25 | sashman | hah how many ram u have 32 gb? |
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| 22:52.28 | sashman | xD |
| 22:53.31 | ghostlines | haha, small server 4GB and debian was using 300MB without my VM's running |
| 22:54.06 | sashman | mh ok what exactly do u want to test with auto power? |
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| 22:54.47 | ghostlines | that it will poweron automatically after power outage. It didn't today and I couldn't connect to it until I manually pushed the powerbutton |
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| 22:55.46 | mechanicalduck | So what is the difference between reprepro and apt-cacher(-ng)? |
| 22:55.49 | sashman | ahhh ok now i got it |
| 22:55.51 | mechanicalduck | the apt-cacher-ng does cache everything requested over it and in reprepro one can define what packages should be available (including custom packages?)? |
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| 22:56.48 | sashman | ghostlines this sounds cool how did u git that workin does it has something to do with acpi? |
| 22:57.35 | sashman | i think i need to conf acpi again to enter sleep mode it doesnt really want to |
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| 22:59.00 | ghostlines | sashman, yeah I believe it has to do with acpi, I'm running it on a macmini and can't go into the bios, but I found a setpci command that should fix it |
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| 23:00.45 | sashman | im currently strugglin with xorg.confs and nvidia again -.- |
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| 23:01.18 | ghostlines | damn, yeah I remember those probs lol, you running wheezy? |
| 23:01.35 | sashman | yea |
| 23:01.41 | unborn | ;) |
| 23:01.59 | sashman | i did nvidia-xconfig |
| 23:02.19 | ghostlines | what type of machine you have? |
| 23:02.25 | sashman | after that i got blank screen and log said screen not detected |
| 23:02.26 | unborn | sashman, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ |
| 23:03.02 | ghostlines | lol |
| 23:03.13 | sashman | does sb got xp with bumblebee?? |
| 23:03.28 | unborn | xp? what it is? |
| 23:03.31 | sashman | it isnt in the repos anymore |
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| 23:03.39 | sashman | experience |
| 23:03.47 | unborn | xp..like where do you live man.. |
| 23:03.54 | sashman | unborn: lol |
| 23:04.08 | sashman | y xD |
| 23:04.10 | unborn | aha sashman :) I understand you now.. what chip you have? |
| 23:04.44 | sashman | nvm 5400 |
| 23:04.58 | sashman | these quadro cards |
| 23:05.22 | sashman | mobile |
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| 23:05.43 | unborn | sashman, can you tell me your pc model? plus your bios kindly - thanks |
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| 23:06.59 | unborn | there is some bugs in older versions of bios.. maybe fingers cross you know.. if you choose aquarium you have to leave in aquarium :) |
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| 23:08.09 | sashman | mhh i have a brand new laptop |
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| 23:08.15 | holycow | thanks for the help guys |
| 23:08.15 | holycow | bye |
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| 23:08.29 | unborn | sashman, that could means you can use laptop from 2006 |
| 23:08.51 | unborn | sashman, brand new does not mean brand new coz it is from the shop.. wake up |
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| 23:09.38 | unborn | its a machine sashman it can be 10 years old and if I give it to you, you wont find it.. simple is that |
| 23:09.38 | sashman | and what does bios have to do with debian kernel |
| 23:10.01 | sashman | calm down |
| 23:10.06 | unborn | sashman, okay there is a good page.. it calls google.. ask it there okaY? :) |
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| 23:10.36 | unborn | I am calm sashman.. very calm.. im debian I cannot be hot :) |
| 23:11.06 | sashman | when u cant help y are u evenin dialog with me |
| 23:11.23 | unborn | bios is your heard beat |
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| 23:11.48 | sashman | mh k |
| 23:12.11 | sashman | but when i update bios i have to build the whole kernel again or |
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| 23:14.10 | unborn | sashman, lets tell it.. I am not english.. first of all you come here with question which is already answered on google plus perhaps you give me good question but I dont understand those shorts cuts.. and lastly - and big mistake man.. - I have dialog with you because I try to help you and it is only you who pointed down with your 'english' |
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| 23:14.31 | unborn | why I should help to the people when they are so arrogant? anyone? |
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| 23:15.01 | dragon__ | how should i configure smtp? exim4+dovecot wheezy |
| 23:15.19 | unborn | sashman, cau.. I wont help you.. sorry but I am stupid enough to not be able to help you :) |
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| 23:16.06 | unborn | ..bios is your problem son |
| 23:16.11 | unborn | just thing |
| 23:16.16 | unborn | *think |
| 23:16.16 | ghostlines | dragon__, running into any problems yet? |
| 23:16.46 | unborn | dragon__, virtualmin or webmin? :) |
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| 23:17.13 | unborn | ghostlines, I think he is about new install |
| 23:17.29 | sim590 | How does one sets a default session for a desktop manager? |
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| 23:17.37 | dragon__ | yes, i do not know how or what i must/should configure in wheezy exim4+dovecot (default) |
| 23:17.46 | sim590 | (without using a desktop manager |
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| 23:19.08 | sim590 | anyone knows? |
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| 23:19.43 | unborn | dragon__, if that is or would be clean debian install I could give hands with virtualmin or webmin.. |
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| 23:20.27 | dragon__ | i had a squeeze e-mail server, then i did a clean instalationof wheezy, but the old recipe, does not work! |
| 23:20.33 | unborn | dragon__, then you have clickey things like in windows ;) |
| 23:20.58 | unborn | of course it will not work.. its deb 7 not deb 6 :) |
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| 23:21.08 | dragon__ | unborn, yes it is a clean installation. |
| 23:21.09 | unborn | hold on I have look somewhere |
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| 23:22.08 | dragon__ | do i have to do something with smtp, as with squeeze? |
| 23:22.15 | unborn | dragon__, is that for one domain or is it for multi domains hosting? |
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| 23:22.43 | dragon__ | 1 domain email. |
| 23:22.45 | unborn | dragon__, as soon as you install virtualmin it should work without problem |
| 23:23.11 | unborn | ah I see... well follow this and you will get it work out :) |
| 23:24.01 | dragon__ | thanks unborn; i would like to do it by hand, if it is posible. |
| 23:24.51 | unborn | dragon__, this guides you via it self :) you can apply this on one server it self as well http://joealdeguer.com/install-virtualmin-debian-7/ |
| 23:25.50 | unborn | you looking for email bit |
| 23:25.53 | unborn | its all terminal what kind of beauty you wont from else where :) |
| 23:26.04 | unborn | *want |
| 23:28.34 | dragon__ | i just want to know if i should do some exim4+dovecot tweaking |
| 23:28.53 | dragon__ | in my clean installation. |
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| 23:31.39 | Jehoshaphat_Eber | What's the difference between a nigger and a bouncy castle? You dont take your shoes off to jump on a nigger! |
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| 23:31.45 | Jehoshaphat_Serg | A black woman was filling out forms at the welfare office. Under "Number of children," she wrote "10," and where it said "List names of children," she wrote "Leroy." When she handed in the form, the woman behind the desk pointed out: "Now here where it says "List names of children," you're supposed to write the names of each one of your children." "Dey all named Leroy," said the black woman. "That's very unusual. When you call them, how do they k |
| 23:31.45 | Aristaeus_Method | Leeroy is talking to his parents about his problems: "Mummy, whenever I try to play with the white boys and girls, they always call me a nigger - why is that? "Well," replies his mum, "that's because you are black." "And mummy, why do the teachers shout at me and tell me to go away, but they are nice to the white boys and girls?" "Well," replies his mum, "that's because you are black." Then Leroy grins and says "Well, whenever I'm in the shower w |
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| 23:31.48 | Godtfred_Lamont | What do you call 10 niggers in a steam room? Gorillas In The Mist. |
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| 23:31.49 | Sebastian_Roni | Why are there trees in Harlem? Public transportation. |
| 23:31.49 | Chenaniah_Nikola | How has Jesse Jackson lost the vote of most niggers? He promised to create jobs for them if elected. |
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| 23:33.01 | sim590 | slim sources suggests to use something like this xinitrc file, but in debian, the default contains ". /etc/X11/Xsession".. Does Xsession do something similar to what slim xinitrc file suggests? |
| 23:33.12 | wondiws | guys, my grub is not bootable anymore and I need some quick help |
| 23:33.18 | wondiws | i started grub4dos |
| 23:33.18 | sim590 | the file is at http://paste.debian.net/23759/ |
| 23:33.31 | wondiws | then loaded my kernel and initrd, but now I'm in initramfs |
| 23:33.44 | wondiws | how do I go on from here, I have to select the root partition of my LVM... |
| 23:33.48 | wondiws | I forgot how this worked |
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| 23:34.29 | qman__ | I'm not familiar with grub4dos; I recommend booting a linux live CD, chrooting into your existing install, and then using grub-install to fix |
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| 23:34.45 | wondiws | never mind grub4dos, I already booted the kernel |
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| 23:35.03 | wondiws | I had to mount the root partition somewhere in the initramfs? |
| 23:35.04 | wondiws | right? |
| 23:35.37 | unborn | wondiws, just use live debian cd with commands.. dont troll here |
| 23:35.59 | wondiws | I'm not trolling! |
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| 23:36.16 | unborn | qman__, you are right.. he just trolling I guess |
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| 23:36.50 | wondiws | what do you think about all the racist "jokes" that just went by in this channel, now that is what I call trolling |
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| 23:37.12 | Godtfred_Domotor | There is a 3 story apartment building with 1 apartment on each floor. A white family lives on the top floor. A mexican family lives on the second floor. A nigger family lives on the botom floor. At 2:00 PM in the afternoon a terrrible tornado hits the building, totally destroying it. Which family lived? The White family, because both parents were at work and the kids were in school. |
| 23:37.34 | unborn | wondiws, if i am op all racist will be gone while I would be here :) thats for sure |
| 23:39.53 | unborn | its gone..you see debs are always here :) |
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| 23:47.17 | wondiws | but I fixed it, with GRUB4DOS, in your face :P |
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| 23:49.42 | unborn | I dont use dos :) sorry I am linux |
| 23:50.43 | sim590 | can anyone help me? |
| 23:53.28 | sim590 | slim sources suggests to use something like this xinitrc file (pastebinit) because it lets slim start the session you want, but in debian, the default contains ". /etc/X11/Xsession".. I want to set the default session.. how woudl you suggest me to do it? |
| 23:53.32 | sim590 | the file is at http://paste.debian.net/23759/ |
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| 23:59.01 | unborn | long life to debian! adie :) |
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