| 00:00.01 | verysoftoiletppr | gnarface yes |
| 00:00.04 | verysoftoiletppr | they are the same |
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| 00:00.14 | gnarface | verysoftoiletppr: hmm. missing target directory or permissions error perhaps? i'm not familiar with all your options |
| 00:00.43 | gnarface | verysoftoiletppr: also, show the mount line |
| 00:00.44 | jeep | Noturno can .you connect from localhost |
| 00:01.03 | verysoftoiletppr | gnarface didn't mount, I'm exporting directly |
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| 00:01.29 | gnarface | verysoftoiletppr: now i'm confused... certainly you have to mount this nfs share from another machine for it to be useful? |
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| 00:02.24 | verysoftoiletppr | gnarface.. I see. I was using xbmc to discover nfs shares |
| 00:02.34 | verysoftoiletppr | maybe it's a discovery problem |
| 00:03.02 | Noturno99 | it seems debian is refusing any connection from LAN |
| 00:03.10 | gnarface | verysoftoiletppr: well i don't know crap about xbmc sorry, can't help you there |
| 00:03.14 | Noturno99 | any ideas? |
| 00:03.28 | jeep | Noturno |
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| 00:04.06 | verysoftoiletppr | gnarface here it is: http://paste.debian.net/24058/ |
| 00:04.20 | jeep | On the server can you connect localhost ? |
| 00:04.26 | verysoftoiletppr | 192.168.1.4 is the server which is working |
| 00:04.33 | verysoftoiletppr | 192.168.1.124 it's not |
| 00:04.46 | Noturno99 | yes, I can. Just type localhost and I have access |
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| 00:05.03 | Noturno99 | but using my phone in the same network, I can't |
| 00:05.50 | jeep | Noturno ping other pcs worksj? |
| 00:06.10 | Noturno99 | yes |
| 00:06.35 | Noturno99 | sorry, I didnt try |
| 00:06.40 | verysoftoiletppr | jeep no, doesn't seem to find anything: http://paste.debian.net/24059/ |
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| 00:07.05 | jeep | Http: subnet-ip |
| 00:07.55 | jeep | Tablet sucks for typing brb |
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| 00:14.52 | jeep | wb me ! |
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| 00:15.03 | s0m3b0dy | Hello, is there an ftpd that can run on multiple ports? |
| 00:15.05 | verysoftoiletppr | jeep any idea on nfs/ |
| 00:15.06 | verysoftoiletppr | ? |
| 00:15.30 | Kill_Dank | I want to make a USB boot key |
| 00:15.36 | Kill_Dank | or whatever it's caled |
| 00:16.01 | jeep | verysoftoiletppr, you were just setting up exports on the server side then letting xbmc manage mounting it for you ? |
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| 00:17.43 | verysoftoiletppr | jeep yes, but I've testes with showmounts -e and it didn't work http://paste.debian.net/24058/ |
| 00:17.57 | verysoftoiletppr | RPC: Program not registered |
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| 00:19.59 | epitamizor | why would ping place.org show unknhown host but pinging by ip works? |
| 00:21.26 | s0m3b0dy | epitamizor: your DNS server probably isn't working |
| 00:21.35 | s0m3b0dy | epitamizor: is it on a server or desktop |
| 00:21.36 | s0m3b0dy | ? |
| 00:21.38 | epitamizor | no, its just for this comp |
| 00:21.49 | thanosme | epitamizor: update your dns |
| 00:21.50 | epitamizor | others work fine |
| 00:21.59 | s0m3b0dy | ^^ |
| 00:22.20 | s0m3b0dy | Do you guys know of an ftp daemon that runs on more than one port? |
| 00:22.21 | jeep | verysoftoiletppr, 192.168.1.4 is the ip of your server ? |
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| 00:22.31 | dankk | howdy |
| 00:22.36 | verysoftoiletppr | jeep the one which is working |
| 00:22.47 | verysoftoiletppr | the one which is not working is 192.168.1.124 |
| 00:22.51 | jeep | verysoftoiletppr, whats the ip of one not working ? |
| 00:23.36 | Guest54848 | how to join a windows7 homegroup? |
| 00:24.01 | jeep | verysoftoiletppr, is exports file the same on both ? with correct directories if different ? |
| 00:24.42 | verysoftoiletppr | working: /mnt/media/Media 192.168.1.0/24(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,async) |
| 00:24.51 | verysoftoiletppr | not working: /home/user 192.168.1.0/24(rw,nohide,insecure,no_subtree_check,async) |
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| 00:25.08 | kryl | hi |
| 00:25.14 | verysoftoiletppr | the first is the 192.168.1.4 |
| 00:25.23 | verysoftoiletppr | the second is the 192.168.1.124 |
| 00:25.27 | jeep | verysoftoiletppr, you restarted the service after adding that line to the exports ? |
| 00:25.32 | verysoftoiletppr | jeep yes |
| 00:26.02 | kryl | I try to remove dovecot to create a proper install but there is a failure with apt-get ... Can you please have a look ? http://pastebin.com/FYPsuu3d |
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| 00:26.21 | kryl | it's debian 7 |
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| 00:26.40 | epitamizor | this box doesnt have /etc/resolve.conf instead there is /etc/resolv.conf/resolv.conf.dhclient-new Is this why the name is not able to ping? |
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| 00:27.50 | jeep | verysoftoiletppr, can you manually try mounting the share ? |
| 00:28.44 | kryl | is there a way to force purge of package ? |
| 00:29.24 | dankk | Is there a way to make a USB drive like a key that would be needed for my computer to boot? |
| 00:29.38 | verysoftoiletppr | jeep mount_nfs: can't mount /home/user from 192.168.1.124 onto /mnt/test: RPC prog. not avail |
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| 00:34.15 | jeep | verysoftoiletppr, what about from localhost ? can you mount it then |
| 00:34.26 | verysoftoiletppr | jeep nop |
| 00:34.53 | jeep | is the working server debian also ? |
| 00:35.19 | kryl | http://pastebin.com/FYPsuu3d |
| 00:36.13 | jeep | dankk, quick dirty way would be put grub on the usb stick and remove grub from mbr so you have to have the stick to boot |
| 00:36.25 | dankk | why is it dirty? |
| 00:36.45 | jeep | dankk, because there is a more elegant way i am sure |
| 00:37.05 | verysoftoiletppr | jeep ubuntu |
| 00:37.17 | dankk | Well, I want a way that won't affect performance |
| 00:37.34 | riex | Hello everybody. Somebody here that can tell me which kind of traffic this here is: http://pastebin.com/pJU0h3d7 <- ? Please. :-) |
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| 00:38.23 | dankk | also, what if the installation has frozen? do I have to start all over? |
| 00:39.43 | jeep | verysoftoiletppr, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/nfs4-server-debian-ubuntu-linux/ method is the same for both i think |
| 00:39.56 | dankk | too late |
| 00:40.21 | jeep | dankk, depends at what stage its froze |
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| 00:40.43 | dankk | it was detecting disks |
| 00:40.55 | dankk | but it's too late, I already restarted |
| 00:41.37 | jeep | dankk, at that point its still information gathering |
| 00:41.40 | kryl | I really need some help lol |
| 00:41.42 | somiaj | dankk: the installer should not freeze. If it froze during the decting disks stage make sure your hardware is good. |
| 00:41.58 | somiaj | dankk: could be a fault sata cable or something like that. |
| 00:42.03 | dankk | I think I used a bad usb disk |
| 00:42.13 | somiaj | that could be it to, usb voodoo |
| 00:42.15 | dankk | but then again.. my HD is duct-taped to the top of my case.. |
| 00:42.25 | kryl | invoke-rc.d: initscript dovecot, action "restart" failed. |
| 00:42.33 | somiaj | I used zip ties on my ssd drive because my case didn't have a slot for it |
| 00:42.36 | kryl | how can a delete script can try to restart a service ? It's a non sense ! |
| 00:42.46 | dankk | lol |
| 00:43.01 | jeep | kryl, you are root right ? |
| 00:43.01 | dankk | I didn't have any of those but it would be a better option |
| 00:43.11 | somiaj | kryl: what command did you type to get that error. |
| 00:43.35 | kryl | apt-get purge (or remove) dovecot OR apt-get -f install |
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| 00:43.57 | somiaj | kryl: did you delete the /etc/init.d/dovecot script? |
| 00:43.57 | kryl | it's locked until I delete & reinstall this package |
| 00:44.02 | kryl | nop |
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| 00:44.15 | kryl | it's in place |
| 00:44.28 | somiaj | kryl: well there are a few options. One thing you could do is make a backup of that script and replace it with a script that only has one line 'exit 0' at the top |
| 00:44.44 | kryl | but the configuration of dovecot is broken since the upgrade from squeeze to wheezy |
| 00:44.46 | somiaj | kryl: that way the script will return a good exit status and the postrm script will continue to do its thing |
| 00:45.02 | kryl | good idea ;) |
| 00:45.09 | somiaj | kryl: you could also just modify the script and put 'exit 0' at the top |
| 00:45.21 | somiaj | the other optin is to modify the post remove script for the package so it doesn't error out. |
| 00:45.53 | kryl | hey where can I edit such script ? |
| 00:46.25 | somiaj | the scripts are all stored in /var/lib/dpkg/info/package_name.foo |
| 00:46.31 | somiaj | where foo is postinst, postrm, etc |
| 00:46.50 | kryl | excellent & interresting helping ;) |
| 00:46.56 | kryl | btw the first method works |
| 00:47.08 | kryl | and I have my answer about where are the scripts for next time |
| 00:47.12 | kryl | thank you somiaj |
| 00:47.21 | somiaj | glad it worked, (: |
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| 00:50.08 | somiaj | kryl: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 00:50.26 | somiaj | kryl: just incase you deleted some config files and find that you don't reinstall them when you try to reinstall dovecot (if you do) |
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| 00:53.18 | kryl | wow |
| 00:53.32 | kryl | I'll keep it |
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| 00:55.34 | dankk | The installer stopped in the exact same place.. |
| 00:55.40 | dankk | middle of the bar |
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| 00:56.30 | dankk | I took the USB drive out not but it still hasn't moved... |
| 00:56.35 | dankk | do I have to start over again? |
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| 00:57.41 | dankk | or is tehre a button I can push to get me out of that stage of the setup and back to the menu? |
| 00:58.32 | dankk | too late |
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| 01:00.21 | dankk | How long can I make the encryption password? |
| 01:00.38 | dankk | usually they limit you to like 64 characters, but it allows more than that to be entered |
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| 01:08.12 | kryl | bye all |
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| 01:10.40 | dankk | is it possibly to encrypt my the root thing? |
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| 01:12.42 | biojaw | clear |
| 01:13.36 | dankk | what happens if I put /boot on a USB drive? |
| 01:14.10 | dankk | I don't know if everyone hates me for asking so many questions or if there's just nobody here that can answer them.. |
| 01:18.31 | ZIPY | dankk: you can put boot to usb, but u have to set ur bios/efi to boot on ur usb then |
| 01:18.41 | dankk | totally fine. |
| 01:19.15 | ZIPY | but why would you do that? |
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| 01:19.25 | dankk | The main issue I'm having is that apparently I can't encrypt the drive I mount my root file system on |
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| 01:19.41 | dankk | I'm okay with entering a password before I boot |
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| 01:20.01 | ZIPY | the installer has an option to install full encrypted disk + lvm |
| 01:20.22 | ZIPY | boot is in an seperate non encrypted partition then |
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| 01:21.49 | dankk | Well, I create encrypted volumes, then it tells me I need a mount point for /root |
| 01:22.00 | dankk | do I need to leave one partition unencrypted or something? |
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| 01:22.54 | etherape | goodnight y'all |
| 01:25.22 | goldkatze | scnr pic related http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/108/8/0/i_can__t_configure_debian_by_carnine9-d4wkixt.png |
| 01:25.36 | dankk | or should I just set the disk as a physical volume for LVM? |
| 01:26.40 | goldkatze | dankk: do you mean / or /root in your above statement? |
| 01:27.02 | dankk | ./ |
| 01:27.02 | goldkatze | dankk: if you really meant /root, it seems you dont have any / configured? o.O /me looks confused |
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| 01:28.44 | dankk | All I'm trying to do is encrypt everything, but when I set up the two HD's I have as physical volumes for encryption, it says no root file system is defined |
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| 01:37.23 | ZetaNeta | I have just broke all package system by removing critical files on a debian based distro. Is there a fast and easy way to sync with NTP without installing any tools for it |
| 01:37.28 | dankk | sooo LVM will handle all my partitioning? |
| 01:37.30 | ZetaNeta | all i have is rdate |
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| 01:40.17 | themill | ZetaNeta: (a) syncing time is the least of your worries in this situation (b) please ask your distribution's help channel. |
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| 01:41.07 | ZetaNeta | (a) I dont care in what condition is my packaging system is (b) Do you really send me to #knoppix? |
| 01:41.25 | themill | install debian and both problems are solved. |
| 01:41.26 | ZetaNeta | all i need is the right time |
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| 01:41.41 | ZetaNeta | I am using a liveCD at a remote server XD |
| 01:41.52 | ZetaNeta | rebooting is not a solution |
| 01:41.58 | ZetaNeta | it would not boot back into the cd |
| 01:42.08 | themill | Still not a Debian problem. |
| 01:42.24 | ZetaNeta | You repos, You packagins system...... |
| 01:42.32 | ZetaNeta | Thats all i ask help for |
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| 01:42.49 | pederindi1 | hi, I have a problem. I removed RAID1 in the /, and now I'm in initramfs |
| 01:43.13 | pederindi1 | I do: apt-get remove mdadm |
| 01:43.24 | pederindi1 | I will appreciate any help, this is really disgusting |
| 01:43.58 | themill | pederindi1: are you in a position to boot off a livecd? |
| 01:44.22 | pederindi1 | If I can boot a livecd ? (yes) |
| 01:45.03 | themill | pederindi1: the debian live rescue image has the relevant tools on it (I think) to be able to reassemble the raid, mount it, chroot into it and install the package again |
| 01:48.10 | themill | (and rebuild the initramfs with those tools present) |
| 01:48.10 | pederindi1 | I know that my root system is in /dev/sda5, but the problem perhaps is superblock metadata of mdadm (I couldn't remove it...) |
| 01:48.10 | pederindi1 | (I want to remove RAID1) |
| 01:48.10 | themill | oh. hmm. nfc... can't say I've ever considered doing that |
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| 01:48.10 | pederindi1 | reassemble the raid, is go to the other situation I don't want...? |
| 01:48.10 | dankk | when the debian installer does an erase, how does it erase the drive? |
| 01:48.10 | pederindi1 | because how to remove RAID1! |
| 01:48.10 | dankk | 7 pass? 35 pass? what algorithm? |
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| 01:48.22 | dankk | its gonna take liek 12 hours.. |
| 01:49.17 | pederindi1 | themill: can you guide me with rescue debian ? |
| 01:49.24 | pederindi1 | themill: you do it in a situation...? |
| 01:49.43 | pederindi1 | themill: for example, you know what scripts I have to execute ? |
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| 01:54.16 | dankk | can someone explain this to me? http://pastebin.com/fibHkr4X |
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| 01:56.51 | lulzfish4 | dankk: I'll read it but there's no guarantee |
| 01:57.39 | lulzfish4 | dankk: The idea is to encrypt a partition, but destroy the key when you unmount it, so that the data becomes "erased" instantly |
| 01:58.01 | lulzfish4 | dankk: This is useful for swap because swap is supposed to be volatile like RAM |
| 01:58.09 | dankk | so if I want to keep the data I save, I should not use a random key? |
| 01:58.49 | lulzfish4 | Right. I'm not sure on the specific details, but usually encrypted partitions that are used for nonvolatile storage have a passphrase of some kind, or a key with a passphrase on it. |
| 01:58.54 | lulzfish4 | And that key would be the same every time |
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| 01:59.41 | dankk | so the passphrase is where I only have to remember the password I have set? |
| 02:00.06 | lulzfish4 | yes |
| 02:00.24 | lulzfish4 | Of course passphrases aren't as secure as having an entire keyfile but they're easier to type in |
| 02:00.34 | dankk | yes I'll have a keyfile as well |
| 02:00.57 | dankk | so like, if I were to encrypt my backup drive, I'd want to use a passphrase, not a random key? |
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| 02:02.02 | lulzfish4 | Yes |
| 02:02.17 | dankk | Thank you |
| 02:02.22 | dankk | Sometimes the language is a bit confusing |
| 02:02.26 | lulzfish4 | The way SSH usually does things is to have a passphrase on the key file, so I would guess that's good practice |
| 02:03.14 | dankk | a keyfile can be anything, like a picture or mp3 file? |
| 02:04.01 | lulzfish4 | Depends on how the crypto is implemented. For SSH, the file is randomly generated data. For Truecrypt, they let you use an ordinary file like a picture. I don't know how your encrypted FS does it |
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| 02:04.21 | lulzfish4 | dankk: Are you thinking the key should be hard for an attacker to find amongst many other files? |
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| 02:04.55 | dankk | I'm installing debian on another machine and I am encrypting the filesystem |
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| 02:05.07 | dankk | and there are a lot of options I'm not familiar with |
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| 02:06.27 | lulzfish4 | I'm walking on thin ice here because I am a cryptography expert |
| 02:06.55 | lulzfish4 | uh |
| 02:06.57 | lulzfish4 | am *not* |
| 02:07.04 | dankk | me either.. |
| 02:07.15 | lulzfish4 | You probably want a long and seemingly random passphrase |
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| 02:07.24 | dankk | yes I have that part down |
| 02:07.48 | dankk | Apparently the I have to use the Logical Volume Manager during installation to encrypt the partition |
| 02:07.53 | lulzfish4 | It's up to you whether it's better to write down a long one and risk losing your data or use a short one and hope nobody smart gets access to your drive |
| 02:08.11 | lulzfish4 | LVM is quite nice to use even if you don't need encryption. I have it set up here |
| 02:08.17 | dankk | but I don't want it to use AES and it keeps using AES |
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| 02:08.40 | pederindi1 | I get worse now, a summary: I wanted to delete RAID1, I tried with commands of mdadm founded googling: stop, delete, but I can't nothing because the drive affected was "/". So I decided to: # apt-get remove mdadm, after this, debian don't boot, with recovery mode it gets in initramfs. With a Debian Live I installed mdadm and I said to affect all disks, seems to change bot, but I do what I was interested: mdadm --zero-s |
| 02:08.59 | lulzfish4 | dankk: Why don't you want to use ARD? |
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| 02:09.01 | lulzfish4 | AES* |
| 02:09.07 | dankk | I prefer serpent |
| 02:09.33 | dankk | seems more secure from what I've been reading |
| 02:10.13 | dankk | Do you know how to change the algorithm? |
| 02:11.26 | lulzfish4 | dankk: No, I haven't ever set up full-system encryption. All I have is like a dm-crypt encrypted volume, and I can't even remember how to access it |
| 02:13.15 | dankk | I'll let ya know if I find out |
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| 02:13.50 | lulzfish4 | There should probably be some official tutorials on this but I don't recall seeing any |
| 02:14.12 | dankk | I've been looking because that's actually what I need |
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| 02:17.09 | HellTiger | http://img.pr0gramm.com/2013/08/i-can-t-configure-debian-by-carnine9-d4wkixt.png |
| 02:18.08 | themill | HellTiger: unhelpful. |
| 02:18.12 | themill | dankk: http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition |
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| 02:19.06 | dankk | I've been using this - http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#partman-crypto |
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| 02:19.53 | HellTiger | beyond belief |
| 02:20.12 | pederindi1 | nice, I've lost my data with a RAID1 |
| 02:20.13 | HellTiger | i am tempted to click just to see what racist ill it is. |
| 02:20.16 | pederindi1 | hall of fame of stupids |
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| 02:22.06 | dankk | haha figured it all out |
| 02:22.27 | dankk | This is why I enjoy this. I feel stupid for like 4 hours then when I get something I feel like I won the lottery |
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| 02:23.18 | HellTiger | and you will feel it over and over every time you use it. |
| 02:23.42 | dankk | yeaaaa |
| 02:23.44 | dankk | lol |
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| 02:29.51 | dankk | now for some reason it says I have two 250gb drives instead of one.. |
| 02:33.49 | dankk | how do I reboot during installation |
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| 02:44.52 | pederindi1 | good night |
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| 03:01.09 | markovh | does debian keep to what linux determiens as modules and what isn't or does debian split more code out of the kernel and stick it into packages (or staticly build modules into the kernel) |
| 03:02.47 | markovh | while sort of related, i noticed raspbian seems to have split ipv6 support into a module. curious does debian or other distros do similar |
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| 03:04.23 | Dagger3 | Debian has had v6 compiled in (not as a module) since, I think, Squeeze |
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| 03:04.43 | Dagger3 | the v6 situation on RPi distros is terrible, especially considering it's exactly the sort of device that benefits the most from v6 :/ |
| 03:09.53 | goldkatze | markovh: look at packages.debian.org most is in one module except special cases like nvidia binary |
| 03:10.18 | goldkatze | markovh: also, most is build as a module instead of built-in. |
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| 03:10.40 | goldkatze | Besides. It shouldnt matter for you as an end user, and if it does matter, you're gonna build your own kernel anyway. |
| 03:11.19 | markovh | i'm just curious and i am playing around with my own builds |
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| 03:13.28 | realteksucks | hello fellow debianers, could anyone help me in the way of installing realtek's rtl8101e ethernet driver? When i try to execute the ./autorun.sh command after unpacking the tarball as the readme says, I get three messages: 'Check old driver and unload it', 'Build the module and install it' and 'line 27: make: command not found' |
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| 03:14.47 | markovh | realteksucks: apt-get install make |
| 03:15.37 | Dagger3 | or rather, `apt-get install build-essential` |
| 03:15.45 | Dagger3 | since you'll probably need more than `make` |
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| 03:16.05 | harlan | Is there any reason I should not be able to run a 3.10.5 kernel on my wheezy (7.0) system? |
| 03:16.07 | goldkatze | realteksucks: also, lsmod will reveal old driver if loaded, rmmod will unload |
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| 03:21.28 | realteksucks | tried to install build-essential, got 'impossible executing the binary file' message. |
| 03:21.35 | realteksucks | same for install make |
| 03:21.50 | realteksucks | thank you for answering |
| 03:22.05 | realteksucks | i removed module 8169 |
| 03:22.18 | realteksucks | using the rmmod command |
| 03:22.22 | goldkatze | hit |
| 03:22.23 | goldkatze | enter |
| 03:22.25 | goldkatze | less |
| 03:22.27 | goldkatze | :) |
| 03:22.47 | realteksucks | sorry. Will report things in one line only from now on |
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| 03:32.22 | scathen^C | i've spent the last 12 hours straight trying to setup a simple mail server and i have gotten literally no where. anyone care to help? |
| 03:32.42 | harlan | which mail software? |
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| 03:32.53 | scathen^C | right now im trying sendmail |
| 03:32.58 | scathen^C | but i'll take anything to be frank |
| 03:33.01 | scathen^C | i just want something to work |
| 03:33.26 | harlan | It's been a while for me and sendmail - I went to postfix many years ago (after a short stint with qmail) |
| 03:33.46 | harlan | but sendmail should not be that hard. You have your MX records and things set up? |
| 03:33.54 | scathen^C | well i know very little about mail, so would most definitely take advice when deciding what to use |
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| 03:34.05 | harlan | personal domain or ??? |
| 03:34.12 | harlan | how may users? |
| 03:34.55 | scathen^C | i need to send password reset emails to my site users, and i have about 4 email accounts i want to setup, but really just want them to redirect to things like hotmail accounts |
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| 03:35.32 | scathen^C | yeah personal domain |
| 03:35.50 | harlan | a .forward can do that. Are you doing email for any other domains on the box? |
| 03:35.58 | scathen^C | nope |
| 03:36.04 | harlan | easier then. |
| 03:36.17 | scathen^C | should i go postfix? |
| 03:36.26 | harlan | so can you send email to a hotmail account from the box now? |
| 03:36.33 | harlan | sendmail should be fine. |
| 03:36.51 | harlan | It depends on what you want to do. I was a happy sendmail admin for Years. |
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| 03:37.05 | harlan | postfix just made some things easier for mulitple domains and stuff. |
| 03:37.21 | scathen^C | the reason i went sendmail is because i wanted to use nodemailer for node.js which supports it |
| 03:37.30 | harlan | ok. |
| 03:37.51 | harlan | The steps are 1) make sure you can receive email to a local account from a local acocunt |
| 03:38.02 | harlan | 2) make sure you can receive email from a networked machine to a local account |
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| 03:38.20 | harlan | make sure yuo can send email to a network/remote machine |
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| 03:39.05 | harlan | it gets harder if you want to do AV or spam filtering. But not that much harder. |
| 03:39.30 | harlan | If you only want local email delivery, great. If you want imap or pop or webmail access, it gets harder. |
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| 03:42.06 | scathen^C | ok, when i start the sendmail service is says ok, but when checking the status it says MTA is not running |
| 03:42.25 | harlan | check your syslog files. |
| 03:43.00 | scathen^C | mail.err says problem creating smtp socket. server smtp socket wedged |
| 03:43.21 | harlan | got 'lsof' on the box? |
| 03:43.33 | scathen^C | oh and cannot bind: address already in use |
| 03:43.36 | harlan | either somebody else has that port open or ... |
| 03:43.41 | scathen^C | apologies i am totally new to this |
| 03:43.46 | harlan | yup, something else has that port. |
| 03:43.50 | harlan | lsof will tell you. |
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| 03:45.34 | harlan | whatever it is might be something you can use. |
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| 03:47.16 | scathen^C | hrm, not really sure what im looking for |
| 03:47.40 | scathen^C | lsof -i :25 gives no results <- is that right? |
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| 03:48.16 | harlan | yes |
| 03:48.27 | harlan | Are you starting sendmail as root? |
| 03:48.44 | scathen^C | sudo service sendmail start |
| 03:48.55 | harlan | do you have security settings or someting that are stopping new root processes on the network? |
| 03:49.11 | scathen^C | don't think so |
| 03:49.29 | scathen^C | if i had to guess i've done something that has fucked it between now and when i started |
| 03:50.39 | harlan | I haven;t done much email admin on linux boxes, so if it was me I'd reboot and see if it started working. Somebody else might have better info for you though. |
| 03:51.27 | scathen^C | yeah i'll try reboot |
| 03:51.32 | scathen^C | thanks i'll keep reading |
| 03:51.43 | harlan | good luck - I'm happy to help if I can :) |
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| 03:58.39 | harlan | is it safe to build the kernel with 'make -jN' where N is >1? |
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| 04:04.41 | epitamizor | depends on how many cores cpu has |
| 04:05.14 | harlan | 2 cores+HT |
| 04:05.36 | epitamizor | should be safe up to 3 then |
| 04:05.41 | harlan | thanks! |
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| 04:09.21 | chovy | should i use dsa or rsa for keys? |
| 04:09.24 | chovy | ssh |
| 04:09.48 | harlan | that's mostly a religious question, I think. |
| 04:09.49 | sheap | I have a debian server running mediawiki, but everytime I type in the address IP/mediawiki/ it redirects to "localhost/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page" or something like that |
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| 04:12.30 | chovy | k |
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| 04:17.46 | ffio | can we use debian testing for daily use ? |
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| 04:20.14 | ac_slater | hey guys, I have some zcat output of a tgz'd manpage, how can I open that manually through the man viewer? |
| 04:21.20 | epitamizor | man < "your extract commands" |
| 04:21.54 | ac_slater | epitamizor: ah dam, I was trying to pipe. Thanks |
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| 04:23.00 | ac_slater | epitamizor: aw spoke to soon, no go. I did `zcat /path/to/man.gz > ~/output; man < ~/output` |
| 04:24.29 | themill | ac_slater: tgz or gz? |
| 04:25.07 | themill | If it's just gzipped, man can deal with that on its own. man -l /path/to/page.gz |
| 04:25.45 | ac_slater | ah right it's just gz. And `-l` is what I was looking for |
| 04:25.49 | ac_slater | thanks guys |
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| 04:29.21 | pbase | i was trying to create a swap file by using dd -> dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=8192 count=4194304 .. It strangely doesn't stop at 4 Gb. Instead continues to grow up indefinitely unless ctrl+c is pressed (12Gb this time). Can someone suggest a fix ? |
| 04:30.17 | epitamizor | tr just 4194 |
| 04:30.47 | ac_slater | pbase: is your math correct/ |
| 04:30.48 | ac_slater | ? |
| 04:30.52 | themill | 8192*4194304=34GiB |
| 04:30.58 | epitamizor | LOL |
| 04:31.30 | pbase | okay that was stupid on my part |
| 04:32.40 | tapout | i want percona to be pinned higher than dotdeb... i put pin-priority to 700 and 900 ... |
| 04:32.49 | tapout | why does it prefer percona? |
| 04:34.27 | themill | dpkg: tell tapout about bat |
| 04:34.59 | themill | (also, I wouldn't touch packages from dotdeb with a barge poll) |
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| 04:36.01 | tapout | oh i had the priority wrong |
| 04:36.06 | tapout | it was going for 900 over 700 |
| 04:36.12 | tapout | i thought priority was 1 being highest |
| 04:36.32 | tapout | apt-cache policy showed that the 900 one was being installed, i swapped the values and boom, working, cheers man |
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| 04:43.18 | pbase | does anyone face this strange problem too? My laptop speakers work just fine before starting the wireless(from the hardware switch). Once they are started, there is no sound from the speakers. Headphones work fine though.. Any suggestions? |
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| 04:49.09 | tapout | how long does an fsck usually take? I have not rebooted this box for over 250 days .. now the box hasn't come back up in 5 minutes (i think it's fsck'n) .. typically like 5-10 minutes for fsck eh? |
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| 07:10.32 | tapout | hey guys, i have sda and sdb and i upgraded from squeezy to wheezy, but it's messed up my software raid.. they have an md* device ... I've never used the software raid, anyone know the few commands i need to issue to see what's up? |
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| 07:13.38 | dondelelcaro | tapout: even if you have software raid, you should still have sda and sdb |
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| 07:14.21 | dondelelcaro | tapout: but in any event, what are sda and sdb? are you using software raid at all? |
| 07:14.26 | tapout | i'm trying to figure out why my box came up, but no services... not even sshd |
| 07:14.42 | tapout | i see /dev/md1 is / and md2 is home |
| 07:14.58 | tapout | i've got it mounted, and i'm poking around to see why my sshd didn't pop up |
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| 07:18.50 | tapout | when you mount /var/tmp/mounted , how do you then get it to reset to / as being /var/tmp/mounted ? |
| 07:18.54 | tapout | i want to reinstall grub |
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| 07:19.21 | dondelelcaro | tapout: chroot |
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| 07:22.40 | themill | tapout: you'll probably want to bind-mount in some other parts of the system prior to chrooting. /msg dpkg fixgrub |
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| 07:28.53 | tapout | kk thx guys |
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| 07:33.55 | tapout | in wheezy, should i see both |
| 07:33.58 | tapout | rootfs nad /dev/root? |
| 07:34.04 | tapout | df, shows .. both |
| 07:34.21 | tapout | rootfs 20917232 6712360 13156300 34% / \n /dev/root 20917232 6712360 13156300 34% / |
| 07:35.08 | Scall | Hello everyone, I can't use [Alt Gr]+[J] as Down key and don't understand why; [Alt Gr]+[H/K/L] work perfectly, as Left, Up, and Right key, respectively. Here what "xmodmap" says → http://paste.debian.net/hidden/19989b02/ - Any ideas? |
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| 07:36.48 | Guest10525 | good day. I need help getting the correct resolution after installing nvidia drivers-current, the desired resolution is 1366x768 but im only getting 640x480 |
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| 07:40.20 | RadoQ | tapout, I see both, too. |
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| 07:41.14 | RadoQ | Scall, try "xev". |
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| 07:41.28 | Guest10525 | good day. I need help getting the correct resolution after installing nvidia drivers-current, the desired resolution is 1366x768 but im only getting 640x480 |
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| 07:45.20 | RadoQ | Guest10525, don't repost toooooo frequently. |
| 07:47.32 | Guest10525 | sorry but ive been struggling with this problem for 4 days now. ive been back and forth with ubuntu try to fix this stupid problem |
| 07:47.41 | Scall | RadoQ: pressing [j] in the xev window I see "keycode 44 (keysm 0x6a, j)", and pressing [Alt Gr]+[j] I still see "keycode 44 (keysm 0x6a, j)". Instead, for example, pressing [Alt Gr]+[k] I see "keycode 45 (keysm 0xff52, Up)", which is OK. |
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| 07:48.48 | Scall | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:49.21 | RadoQ | Guest10525, ubuntu stuff should go to #ubuntu channels. |
| 07:49.57 | Guest10525 | they couldnt help me, for 4 days! it ended with "your problem is the monitor" and "try other distros" |
| 07:50.05 | RadoQ | It is _based_ on debian, but not the same. ;) |
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| 07:50.41 | RadoQ | Guest10525, there are gfx-related channels, too. |
| 07:50.50 | RadoQ | independent of distro. |
| 07:51.02 | Guest10525 | could you point me to the proper channel pls? |
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| 07:51.14 | RadoQ | doesn't use nvidia... |
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| 08:00.00 | socomm | Guest54848: there is an #xorg channel |
| 08:00.34 | Guest54848 | ? |
| 08:00.48 | RadoQ | Ah good, yes, they point you to the gfx-channels they know. |
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| 08:01.31 | socomm | Guest54848: also there is a #nvidia channel |
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| 08:01.48 | socomm | Guest54848: I'd start with the #nvidia channel; /j #nvidia |
| 08:02.01 | codygman | When setting up grub-efi-amd64 I get the error "source_dir doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory" |
| 08:02.12 | socomm | heads to bead |
| 08:02.16 | socomm | heads to bed |
| 08:02.20 | Guest54848 | socomm, I think you meant other guestnumber |
| 08:02.37 | RadoQ | Yes, too many Guests around. ;) |
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| 08:03.11 | Guest54848 | I should pretend to be offended that my name was mispronounced ;) |
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| 08:24.30 | abrotman | !permissions |
| 08:24.30 | dpkg | For information on permissions, read info coreutils 'File Permissions', http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Permissions and http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html . For further information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_permission and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod and follow the setuid and setgid links within. See also <ssh permissions>, <qotd232>. http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions |
| 08:24.39 | abrotman | or mount /home/ noexec, but that seems bad |
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| 08:31.24 | peterrooney | abrotman: I say not bad, but overkill. |
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| 08:33.04 | nicoo | While installing dracut on wheezy i386, I get the following error : |
| 08:33.05 | nicoo | E: Directories consolefonts, consoletrans, keymaps not found. Please inform us about the issue including your OS name and version. |
| 08:33.20 | nicoo | s/error/message |
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| 08:38.49 | witek | thank you, yet one question, pam_limits for groups are counted separetly for each user? |
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| 08:53.20 | Igor^ | when I type text and when that text is shown on the compter monitor, first it gets encoded then decoded and shown on the monitor or..? what is the proccess? How the computer knows how to decode he text? |
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| 08:56.50 | nicoo | Igor^: I'm not sure it's a question for Debian, but still |
| 08:57.27 | Igor^ | its basic of computer science |
| 08:57.39 | Wulf | Igor^: did you skip theses classes? |
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| 08:58.56 | nicoo | Basically, when you type a key, an associated keycode is sent over the wire. Kernel gets it, pass it to userspace (I'll assume you use X). X gets it, uses the keymap to figure out what is the "meaning" of the key (which char it should be, for instance), and dispatches to the correct application (and Xorg's guts are *complicated*) |
| 08:59.16 | nicoo | Igor^: It's not computer *science*, it is implementation detail ;) |
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| 09:01.45 | Igor^ | nicoo, this "keycode" is unicode code unit? |
| 09:02.00 | Igor^ | and what is userspace X ? |
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| 09:06.52 | jmd | With 67% probability, the kernel crashes when one attempts to burn a CD. How can I reduce this to something closer to 0.01% ? |
| 09:07.31 | Wulf | jmd: use less oxygen? |
| 09:08.18 | Wulf | jmd: try it with other kernel versions |
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| 09:14.54 | nicoo | Igor^: X is the software that manages the graphical stuff; see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System |
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| 09:14.58 | bluesm | hi. |
| 09:15.26 | nicoo | jmd: Sorry, my palatir is in the washing machine. |
| 09:15.37 | bluesm | How setting the "pointer" to "pointer = 1 2 3 5 4 7 6 8 9 10 11 12" could change scrolling direction ? |
| 09:15.51 | bluesm | (in ~/.Xmodmap) |
| 09:15.56 | jmd | nicoo, palatir? |
| 09:16.25 | dmbaturin | Hey guys, what is the best way to run some script before any other init scripts? |
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| 09:17.29 | Igor^ | can I tell Debian which font to use in it's applications? |
| 09:17.52 | nicoo | jmd: palantir* sorry; Tolkien's favorite divination device |
| 09:17.55 | jmd | Igor^, Depends on which desktop environment you use. |
| 09:18.05 | Igor^ | gnome 3 i guess |
| 09:19.31 | jmd | probably best to ask in #gnome then. |
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| 09:21.53 | Igor^ | so you dont know nice -_- |
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| 09:22.19 | Wulf | Igor^: the sun is shining, weather is nice. Go outside and have some fun! |
| 09:22.29 | jmd | Not offhand. I think gnome has a menu to set that, but I don't remember right now which it is. |
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| 09:46.12 | bluesm | How setting the "pointer" to "pointer = 1 2 3 5 4 7 6 8 9 10 11 12" could change scrolling direction ? |
| 09:46.18 | bluesm | (in ~/.Xmodmap) |
| 09:50.26 | zmode | hi. due to a bug in python2.7.3 i need 2.7.5 on a debian 7 host for a single application. what's the most sane way of doing that? |
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| 09:53.07 | gnarface | zmode: check the debian package changelog; if its a serious bug the patch has already probably been backported to the version you already have. |
| 09:53.35 | Igor^ | unicode hexadecimal and decimal character reference is code unit and code point, these terms means the same? |
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| 09:54.04 | jmd | I wonder if it is possible for apt-get update to be a bit more intelligent about the order it installs things. |
| 09:54.07 | gnarface | bluesm: mouse wheels are just buttons too |
| 09:54.40 | bluesm | gnarface: In which way ? |
| 09:54.52 | gnarface | bluesm: in both ways. sometimes in three ways |
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| 09:56.27 | Igor^ | unicode hexadecimal and decimal character reference is code unit and code point, these terms means the same? |
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| 09:58.26 | zmode | gnarface: doesn't look like it. should i be looking into a user-local installation of python? |
| 09:59.17 | gnarface | zmode: uh... i'm the wrong person to ask. there is supposed to be a way for alternate versions of python to coexist safely with the system one, but since yours is the same major version i'm not sure if it works |
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| 09:59.38 | gnarface | zmode: i think /usr/local is part of it though. |
| 10:00.12 | gnarface | zmode: make sure you package it too, so it can be safely removed |
| 10:00.29 | zmode | gnarface: only www-data needs to run the application, so that might not be a great idea. python seems to have some documentation on this so i'll check it out |
| 10:00.35 | gnarface | zmode: the dpkg bot may have a factoid about it but i'm just guessing |
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| 10:02.35 | jmd | dpkg --install tells me 'No space left on device'. But it doesn't say *which* device. How can I find out? |
| 10:02.36 | dpkg | jmd: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 10:03.22 | jmd | When doing dpkg --install tells me 'No space left on device'. But it doesn't say *which* device. How can I find out? |
| 10:03.51 | tremon | jmd: use df |
| 10:04.10 | jmd | tremon, Obviously I have done that. |
| 10:04.25 | tremon | it's not obvious, you didn't say so :) |
| 10:04.38 | tremon | tried df -i? |
| 10:04.54 | jmd | I have now. |
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| 10:05.08 | gnarface | jmd: don't forget that ext4 by default reserves some of the blocks (5% of them i think?) |
| 10:05.12 | jmd | Nothing seems like its about to run out of space. |
| 10:05.43 | jmd | No device is more than 85% full. |
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| 10:06.17 | tremon | there are two usual suspects, which are /tmp and /var |
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| 10:10.00 | tremon | zmode: maybe use pip/virtualenv |
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| 10:23.29 | zmode | tremon: that might work. plugging that to apache might be a little trickier though. thanks for the idea |
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| 10:24.54 | dawid | Hi, I need information: Is that possible to configure hostapd with one wifi card (PCI) for ath9k TPLINK for sending two wifi networks? One would be home and with access to ftp, smb and mediaserver, and monitoring, and one for guests. This raises the question of authentication on the web for hotel guests ...I must leave this network open or there is any way to login and a password for each level of hostapd and WebAdmin |
| 10:26.27 | dawid | network for guest without acces to any server |
| 10:27.14 | dawid | and i want to connect one pc via ethernet |
| 10:28.08 | tremon | I know that several accesspoints have the capability of serving multiple SSID's and routing the traffic into separate vlans. Can't speak for the capabilities of either hostapd or ath9k though |
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| 10:29.21 | nicoo | dawid: It's possible to use 802.1x (so-called WPA Enterprise) to auth each wifi user with a certificate or a login/password credential |
| 10:29.56 | nicoo | is actually working (well, will be working as soon as I have a box with working WiFi) on a similar setup |
| 10:30.06 | dawid | I must have two wifi cards to send 2 wifi? |
| 10:30.34 | dawid | i want to make this networks with hostapd |
| 10:30.56 | Firehopper | anyone good with debian in a VM? :) |
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| 10:31.10 | nicoo | dawid: Here, I use a cheap AP with DD-WRT, it can serve 2 networks. I don't know for hostapd and ath9k |
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| 10:31.54 | dawid | nicoo: wchich chipset do you recommend to work with hostapd |
| 10:32.04 | dawid | ? |
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| 10:32.31 | dawid | atheros? |
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| 10:34.03 | oo_miguel | Is dkms meant to work with the debians stock kernels only OR should it work for a new kernel I got directly from kernel.org and compiled by myself too? |
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| 10:34.52 | nicoo | dawid: I don't work with hostapd ; I'm sorry, but I can't give you advice on this |
| 10:35.31 | dawid | ok, thank you |
| 10:36.15 | dawid | thank you for info about wpa2 enterprise:) i must now read about:) |
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| 10:39.12 | nicoo | It's probably over-kill, but I was tasked with building a secure way to auth guests and log some basic informations about connection use. |
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| 10:52.52 | paxcoder | Can someone tell me why Debian, while installing libpeas-1.0-0, wants to install gnome-shell as well? |
| 10:53.57 | tremon | paxcoder: what does apt-get install -f do? |
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| 10:55.25 | jelly-home | it... wants you to give gnome-shell a chance? |
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| 10:56.33 | Firehopper | how do I add a user to the sudoers file? |
| 10:57.00 | ZIPY | Firehopper: adduser <user> sudo |
| 10:57.08 | paxcoder | Trellmor, nothing |
| 10:57.24 | paxcoder | jelly-home, haha |
| 10:57.25 | tremon | ZIPY: he said file, not group :) |
| 10:57.28 | ZIPY | doesnt -f force install? |
| 10:57.39 | paxcoder | ZIPY, no, --fix-broken |
| 10:57.52 | ZIPY | k |
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| 10:58.00 | Firehopper | zipy command not found |
| 10:58.18 | ZIPY | it only works when you have root rights |
| 10:58.53 | tremon | paxcoder: then I can't tell you why, there is no direct path between them. Are you running stable? |
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| 11:00.43 | babilen_ | dpkg: tell Firehopper -about sudoers |
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| 11:00.48 | jelly-home | Firehopper: visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/local (or just visudo if you want to edit the main file) |
| 11:00.48 | Firehopper | that worked.. |
| 11:01.10 | jiohdi | you can by pass sudo by using su and running as root |
| 11:01.16 | Firehopper | got it working.. now how can I get my mouse scrollwheel working? |
| 11:01.29 | babilen_ | Firehopper: You have to run that command as root. That will, however, simply add <user> to the "sudo" group which might or might not be what you want. See the factoid the bot send you for further details |
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| 11:01.52 | Firehopper | babilen_, it worked.. I can now sudo apt-get update |
| 11:01.56 | Firehopper | and stuff :) |
| 11:02.00 | babilen | yay! :) |
| 11:02.34 | Firehopper | anyway, I'm running debian wheezy under a virtualbox vm. I'm trying to get my mouse scroll wheel working. |
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| 11:24.53 | paxcoder | tremon, sorry, had to go afk. running unstable |
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| 11:28.52 | tremon | paxcoder: yeah, had already tried on both jessie and wheezy. You can use aptitude why $from $to to find a dependency path between two packages (and aptitude why $pkg to find a dependency path between your installed packages and some other package) |
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| 11:30.03 | ompaul | paxcoder: running unstable how long since last d-u? |
| 11:30.31 | paxcoder | tremon, wow, that's some path |
| 11:30.55 | tremon | on my machine (jessie), that paths runs along four suggest dependencies, and on wheezy it runs through a predepends dpkg, i.e. no obvious reason to install one with the other |
| 11:31.24 | tremon | you can try aptitude -vW install libpeas... maybe that gives you a useful answer |
| 11:32.00 | paxcoder | peas, seed, readline, -common, dpkg (wut?), apt, gnupg, eog, yelp, man-db, www-browser (wat?), iceweasel, xulrunner, gnomeuui (wat), gnome2-0, -common, desktop-base, xfce4, xfce4-session, xscreensaver, gdm3, gnome-shell (wat) |
| 11:32.05 | paxcoder | lib* |
| 11:32.55 | tremon | yeah, that's what I meant :) |
| 11:33.24 | paxcoder | something's really wrong there |
| 11:33.39 | paxcoder | gonna try ompaul's suggestion, see you in a few hours -_- |
| 11:34.07 | tremon | optimist |
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| 11:34.24 | darsie | hi |
| 11:34.36 | darsie | I installed 'konsole'. How do I run it? |
| 11:34.54 | darsie | Can't find it in the applications. |
| 11:35.13 | tremon | guesses it's under the T for terminal |
| 11:35.18 | paxcoder | darsie, which desktop? |
| 11:35.34 | darsie | gnome3 |
| 11:35.58 | paxcoder | alt+f2, type konsole |
| 11:35.59 | darsie | I could run 'terminal' and run konsole from there, but that's awkward. |
| 11:36.02 | darsie | thx |
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| 11:51.58 | Itsm | Hi guys, I'm using debian 7.1, and sometimes it just freezes, how can I find out the reason for it? |
| 11:52.43 | nkuttler | Itsm: what does freeze exactly mean, can you e.g. still ssh in? |
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| 12:03.03 | Itsm | nkuttler, I'm using it as my workstation, not a server one, with gnome env', aside from the mouse.. nothing else work.. |
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| 12:03.22 | Itsm | nkuttler, and I can't click on anything with the mouse, just move it across the screen.. o.O |
| 12:04.58 | g0dfrey | Itsm: Ctrl + Alt + F1 |
| 12:05.08 | Itsm | g0dfrey, not working |
| 12:05.14 | Itsm | tried that, can't switch to shell |
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| 12:13.12 | oobarf | Are there any programs which do the equivalent of the Debian archive search-the-files-in-packages, but from the command line? |
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| 12:18.36 | tremon | oobarf: yes, multiple. What do you want to do with them? |
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| 12:21.57 | darsie | My new wheezy only allows 1024*768 and 800*600 screen resolutions. How can I get 1600*1200? I already created an xorg.conf with my monitor frequencies. |
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| 12:27.09 | ToApolytoXaos | is it possible to have a range of local IPs to point on the same virtual host? for example, if 192.168.2.10 points at foo.org, can i add a range from 10 to 20 and still point at foo.org? |
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| 12:28.17 | ToApolytoXaos | it is of course related with debian, as i am working on setting up my apache2 properly |
| 12:28.45 | Firehopper | bleahs and ponders reinstalling debian.. |
| 12:29.00 | Firehopper | stupid vbox addons messed up the way it works.. |
| 12:29.07 | Firehopper | and I dont like it.. |
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| 12:33.12 | oobarf | tremon: well, I just want to avoid having to fire up a web browser when I just want to locate packages having some particular file in them. |
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| 12:34.29 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, that's really an Apache HTTPd question, though. Yes, you can set up multiple IP addresses per Ethernet interface, and that's a bit Debian-specific. But the rest is specific to Appache httpd. |
| 12:34.51 | ToApolytoXaos | oobarf, lovely. then, i would go the debian way :D |
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| 12:34.54 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, did you already get the IP addresses set up? |
| 12:34.59 | ToApolytoXaos | yes |
| 12:35.14 | darsie | How do I configure more screen resolutions/frequencies? By making xorg.conf? |
| 12:35.15 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, then the rest is just httpd configuration - ask in /join #apache |
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| 12:35.29 | ToApolytoXaos | my original IP was 192.168.2.10, but for some reason the DHCP decided to switch to 12 |
| 12:35.45 | ToApolytoXaos | that's why i want to cover a whole range so I can work on my website |
| 12:35.45 | oobarf | Err, #httpd |
| 12:36.00 | aguitel | sometimes firefox close ,how to know why ? |
| 12:36.17 | ToApolytoXaos | aguitel, run it via terminal |
| 12:36.19 | ToApolytoXaos | and monitor it |
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| 12:36.30 | aguitel | ok |
| 12:36.33 | katla | hi |
| 12:36.43 | katla | how do I change the debian system beep? |
| 12:36.52 | ToApolytoXaos | aguitel, i have the same issue as i am using an old PC with nVidia proprietary drivers |
| 12:37.04 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, ah, you're going to have a hard time like that. What's happening is that your client (assuming the DHCP client state didn't get deleted) will have requested the old address but it's already been handed out to another machine by the DHCP server. Do you administer the DHCP server yourself? |
| 12:37.26 | ToApolytoXaos | it's my PC |
| 12:37.31 | ToApolytoXaos | that works as local server |
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| 12:37.53 | oobarf | katla, see "man xset" |
| 12:38.20 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, in that case just configure dhcpd to hand out a fixed IP address to the HTTP server. |
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| 12:38.47 | ToApolytoXaos | that's the funny thing. i had it configured as static IP and for some reason, it changed to DHCP |
| 12:38.50 | ToApolytoXaos | weird |
| 12:39.30 | musca | !tell darsie about xorg.conf |
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| 12:40.07 | katla | thanks very much oobarf |
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| 12:41.10 | musca | darsie: most likely an xorg.conf isn't helpful for matters of resolutions. |
| 12:41.30 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, see example at http://pastebin.com/Z3DmNX7s |
| 12:42.17 | ToApolytoXaos | oobarf, thank you very much. i'm learning new things every minute that passes by :D |
| 12:42.31 | oobarf | katla, that won't work for the plain-text xonsole (i.e. VCs). for that see "man setterm" |
| 12:42.42 | katla | volume and duration parameters seem to set the bell duration |
| 12:43.23 | katla | oh well doesnt matter |
| 12:43.33 | oobarf | tremon: I responded to your question, did you fall asleep? |
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| 12:44.51 | musca | darsie: what graphicscard and driver and what display do you use? |
| 12:45.01 | oobarf | katla, problem with setting the bell up? |
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| 12:45.28 | oobarf | To try this out, for example: xset b 70 800 50; printf '\a' |
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| 12:45.43 | sarid | mwahaha! |
| 12:45.49 | oobarf | Are there any programs which do the equivalent of the Debian archive search-the-files-in-packages, but from the command line? |
| 12:46.04 | ToApolytoXaos | oobarf: dhcp or dhcp3? |
| 12:46.12 | ToApolytoXaos | i am on debian testing |
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| 12:46.34 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, should be /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf |
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| 12:46.51 | ToApolytoXaos | actually it's /etc/dhcp/dhcpclient.conf |
| 12:46.58 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, no. |
| 12:46.59 | oobarf | no |
| 12:47.09 | ToApolytoXaos | OK, i haven't touched anything :) no worries |
| 12:47.11 | oobarf | You need to change the configuration of the DHCP server! Not the client.# |
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| 12:47.40 | ToApolytoXaos | i don't think i have my PC set up as DHCP server |
| 12:47.51 | ToApolytoXaos | whatever it comes installed with standard procedure |
| 12:47.56 | oobarf | Ah, so what are you using as a DHCP server? |
| 12:48.19 | ToApolytoXaos | well, i'm using my PC as normal desktop PC with apache installed for local use |
| 12:48.20 | ToApolytoXaos | that's all |
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| 12:48.27 | oobarf | (Personally I use a Raspberry Pi box for DHCP/DNS on my LAN) |
| 12:49.04 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, that cannot be the only thing on your network. If it were, you would not be able to contact other hosts on the Internet, and wouldn't be able to use IRC, for example. |
| 12:49.33 | ToApolytoXaos | i really suck with terminologies |
| 12:49.34 | oobarf | (Well, unless you were using a serial modem, by ~nobody uses those any more) |
| 12:49.45 | tremon | oobarf: apt-file |
| 12:49.50 | oobarf | tremon, thanks |
| 12:49.52 | ToApolytoXaos | actually i'm using smoke signals :P hahahaha :D |
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| 12:50.03 | ToApolytoXaos | i use a normal DSL connection |
| 12:50.07 | jes-o-mat | Hi |
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| 12:50.25 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, so, what is attached to the DSL line then? |
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| 12:50.42 | ToApolytoXaos | from modem to ethernet |
| 12:50.46 | ToApolytoXaos | just the cable |
| 12:50.47 | ToApolytoXaos | that's all |
| 12:50.55 | jes-o-mat | can I teach dh_install to include usr/lib/* into a package, but *not* copying *.a files which are handled by the -dev package? |
| 12:51.38 | jes-o-mat | --exclude=.a does not work within package.install |
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| 12:53.03 | themill | jes-o-mat: any reason you need to glob at all? (also, /msg dpkg mentors) |
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| 12:54.28 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, yes ,same old pc with nvidia 173xx series i have |
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| 12:54.56 | ToApolytoXaos | aguitel: it's due to acceleration issue |
| 12:55.05 | oobarf | Is the cable just hanging out of the wall, dangling in space? |
| 12:55.06 | ToApolytoXaos | you will notice the same behavior with VideoLAN |
| 12:55.16 | ToApolytoXaos | oobarf, about my connection? |
| 12:55.20 | oobarf | yes |
| 12:55.22 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, what is this? |
| 12:55.23 | jes-o-mat | themill: basically because of writing not that much lines within pkg.install :) |
| 12:55.32 | ToApolytoXaos | provider's modem --> to ethernet port |
| 12:55.55 | oobarf | Is the modem in bridging mode, or in routing mode? |
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| 12:56.09 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, do you think this is hardware problem? |
| 12:56.20 | ToApolytoXaos | ah that is beyond my knowledge. all i know is that my provider sets things up oobarf |
| 12:56.38 | ToApolytoXaos | no, it's a proprietary drivers' issue |
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| 12:56.55 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, do you try with free drivers? |
| 12:56.55 | ToApolytoXaos | if you want, you may install debian's standard nouveau drivers |
| 12:57.23 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, OK. what is the result of this command? /sbin/route -n | grep ^0 | awk '{print $2;}' |
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| 12:57.54 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, do you try firefox with nouveau drivers ? |
| 12:58.10 | themill | jes-o-mat: are you installing more than one .so in the library package? Do they share the same SOVER? |
| 12:58.11 | ToApolytoXaos | oobarf, 192.168.2.1 |
| 12:58.19 | oobarf | (it's likely either an RFC1918 address, meaning your modem is in routing mode, or it is a routable address, meaning it is in bridging mode) |
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| 12:58.35 | oobarf | Ah, that is an RFC1918 address. So your modem is really a router. |
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| 12:58.48 | ToApolytoXaos | aguitel: when I had installed nouveau drivers, i had the entire package installed |
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| 12:59.00 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, go to http://192.168.2.1/ and see if you can log in |
| 12:59.07 | oobarf | It may or may not need a password. |
| 12:59.18 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, and what happend with firefox? |
| 12:59.28 | ToApolytoXaos | DSL router asking for username and password |
| 12:59.49 | ToApolytoXaos | aguitel: the scroll bars would flicker or hang unexpectedly |
| 12:59.53 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, Good. If you have the username and password, log in. |
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| 13:00.05 | ToApolytoXaos | plus, it would randomly crash or freeze my PC |
| 13:00.08 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, ok\ |
| 13:00.09 | oobarf | You should be able to modify the DHCP server settings in there. |
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| 13:00.18 | ToApolytoXaos | oobarf: my provider prevents me from doing so |
| 13:00.27 | oobarf | Really? |
| 13:00.31 | oobarf | Scary. |
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| 13:01.20 | ToApolytoXaos | oobarf, yes i know |
| 13:01.20 | oobarf | I have never had an internet service provider who did that. |
| 13:01.33 | oobarf | I've had about 6. |
| 13:01.36 | ToApolytoXaos | it's using a micro-httpd |
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| 13:02.13 | jes-o-mat | themill: yes they have. |
| 13:02.35 | jes-o-mat | I just extended my pkg.install line by *.so*, which should do the job |
| 13:03.00 | themill | yeah, that would work too |
| 13:03.47 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, what nvidia series are you running ? |
| 13:03.55 | ToApolytoXaos | the same as yours |
| 13:04.02 | oobarf | If your ISP won't let you log into the router, they will have to configure it for you I suppose. Call their support line, and explain that you want a static IP address for one of the machines in your home. If they don't just respond by telling you the username/password, then they'll need to configure it for you. |
| 13:04.29 | ToApolytoXaos | oobarf, why have you overcomplicated things? lol |
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| 13:04.45 | ToApolytoXaos | i have done it myself once before, but now it's a MATE desktop issue, that's all |
| 13:04.50 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, i have GeForce FX 5200 |
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| 13:04.53 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, the alternative is to set up your PC so that it has a statically configured IP address, but this will not always work well because there will be no way to force the ISP's router to avoid giving that IP address to something else. |
| 13:04.57 | ToApolytoXaos | aguitel: same here |
| 13:04.58 | debiii | hi all |
| 13:05.11 | ToApolytoXaos | oobarf: this is what i have been doing for ages |
| 13:05.15 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, bad video card |
| 13:05.21 | ToApolytoXaos | aguitel, yes i konw |
| 13:05.28 | jes-o-mat | oobarf: depends - some dhcpd probe for free IPs before sending leases |
| 13:05.37 | ToApolytoXaos | oobarf: something must went wrong with packages upgrade |
| 13:05.40 | jes-o-mat | at least isc does |
| 13:05.41 | c107 | I use one of your derivatives. Do you have an Emacs 24 package? |
| 13:06.47 | themill | c107: packages.debian.org knows, but debian packages are designed for use in debian, not in derivative distributions |
| 13:06.49 | debiii | how open file database .dbf genereted by oracle ? |
| 13:06.51 | miwa | many home routes default to a dhcp range starting not at the second address in the subnet but rather a few hosts up, e.g. .50 on a /24 etc.. |
| 13:07.14 | miwa | (so use an address below the dhcp range, and you should be fine) |
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| 13:07.54 | RodNet60 | ciao :-) |
| 13:08.24 | RodNet60 | qualche italiano? |
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| 13:08.40 | debiii | io parlo poko italiano |
| 13:08.47 | debiii | RodNet60: poko poko |
| 13:08.53 | themill | !it |
| 13:08.53 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 13:09.07 | debiii | parta debian-it |
| 13:09.10 | RodNet60 | ok grazie |
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| 13:09.48 | debiii | niente |
| 13:10.03 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, wow, there appear to be no web hits for Thunderworx customer forums. |
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| 13:10.14 | RodNet60 | by guy have a nice day |
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| 13:10.22 | debiii | RodNet60: io sto a torino 3 mese |
| 13:10.43 | ToApolytoXaos | oobarf, that's because Thunderworx is the business "mother" company |
| 13:10.50 | ToApolytoXaos | i am a primetel customer |
| 13:10.51 | oobarf | Oh. |
| 13:11.07 | ToApolytoXaos | time for ice cream! brb |
| 13:11.19 | debiii | how open file database .dbf genereted by oracle ? now solution ! |
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| 13:15.05 | oobarf | debiii, I've only ever used Oracle to do that. And in any case you would need the full set of database files (expecially the one containing the SYSTEM tablespace) |
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| 13:16.01 | oobarf | debiii, you should be able to install an evaluation version of the Oracle database. But I've got no idea which versions of Oracle have file-format compatibility. |
| 13:16.04 | debiii | oobarf: yes i have all data |
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| 13:16.21 | oobarf | Do you have the database config file too (I forget what it's normally called). |
| 13:16.38 | oobarf | The one that indicates the SID of the database and the location of the files? |
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| 13:17.28 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, I have no idea how to reconfigure your DSL router, sorry. Web is no help either, it seems. Unless the search results are better in Greek. |
| 13:17.36 | matael | hi |
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| 13:17.52 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, (I don't speak/write Greek) |
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| 13:19.18 | cusco | hi folks |
| 13:19.18 | matael | do you know if a backports for Scala 2.10 exists for debian. Version in sid is 2.9.2 ... but improvements have been made between 2.9 and 2.10... |
| 13:19.33 | crane | does someone here knows how to get rid the warning of import pkg_resources? |
| 13:19.39 | crane | for more details see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=473584 |
| 13:19.58 | oobarf | ToApolytoXaos, so, to get your broken (DHCP) configuration to work with Apache... Well, actually it should work out of the box. |
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| 13:20.42 | oobarf | Because /etc/apache2/sites-available/default should say <VirtualHost *:80> - meaning that Apache HTTPd listens on port 80 on all local addresses, whatever they are. |
| 13:21.24 | oobarf | Hence, there should be no need to update the Apache configuration when your PC changes IP address. |
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| 13:24.03 | oobarf | Crap, I've run out of space on /usr. Need to unmount it to fix that. |
| 13:24.14 | oobarf | laters, everybody |
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| 13:31.37 | jmd | Does anyone know how to use the "istanbul" program ? |
| 13:32.06 | jmd | The man page is singularly unhelpful. |
| 13:32.45 | jmd | It says "After you started it, you can control it with the icon" - what does it mean "the icon"? |
| 13:33.08 | jmd | Does it mean the mouse? |
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| 13:36.01 | tremon | please read the entire sentence, there is no period after icon |
| 13:36.35 | tremon | at least not according to http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=istanbul |
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| 13:37.40 | jmd | tremon. Then it makes even less sense. |
| 13:38.45 | jmd | "in the notification area" |
| 13:38.53 | jmd | What is the notification area? |
| 13:39.05 | themill | That's a pretty standard phrase in the desktop. |
| 13:39.13 | themill | (Have you tried running it?) |
| 13:39.21 | jmd | Yes. of course. |
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| 13:39.36 | jmd | Nothing seems to happen. It just seems to be waiting for something. |
| 13:39.43 | themill | jmd: what desktop are you using? |
| 13:39.55 | jmd | X11 |
| 13:40.19 | tremon | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notification_area#Unix-like_operating_systems |
| 13:40.26 | tremon | it's also known as systray |
| 13:40.40 | themill | jmd: X11 is not a window manager |
| 13:40.55 | tremon | that means you do need a desktop that actually supports systray icons |
| 13:41.09 | jmd | You didn't ask what window manager I was using. For the record it is ratpoison |
| 13:41.24 | themill | good luck. |
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| 13:42.58 | jmd | debian gets more and more like windows with every release. |
| 13:43.15 | pundit | how to disable with init that a daemon is started at booting? |
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| 13:43.36 | f8l | jmd: You may want to try out trayer. |
| 13:44.58 | f8l | pundit: `man update-rc.d` |
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| 13:45.58 | pundit | f8l: thanks! :) |
| 13:46.22 | themill | dpkg: tell pundit about disable services |
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| 13:48.20 | f8l | pundit: No thank themill for being much more helpful than me. ;-) |
| 13:49.16 | f8l | s/No/Now/ |
| 13:49.25 | themill | (it's a common mistake to think "remove" will do what you want) |
| 13:49.49 | debiantonio | sysv-rc-conf ? |
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| 13:51.00 | pundit | themill: yes, i feared something like that. the reason why i was suspicious is that there are so many files in /etc/init.d and other directories, therefore just deleting a line/file seemed not right |
| 13:51.11 | pundit | ... even if i would prefer to edit by hand... |
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| 13:52.09 | themill | pundit: you can just rename the files from Sxxfoo to Kxxfoo if you want. That's all update-rc.d disable will do (it will also renumber them but that's not really important) |
| 13:52.44 | pundit | debiantonio: thanks for the that, looks interesting, its not installed by default, however |
| 13:53.13 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, amd64 or i386 system you have ? |
| 13:53.25 | ToApolytoXaos | i386 |
| 13:53.33 | ToApolytoXaos | an old PC, 9 years old :S |
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| 13:53.51 | pundit | themill: oh there is /etc/event.d too, however ...? |
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| 13:54.03 | debiantonio | ;) |
| 13:54.54 | themill | pundit: not on any of my systems |
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| 13:55.27 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, amd64 are mine |
| 13:55.35 | ToApolytoXaos | good luck LOL |
| 13:55.38 | Polakko | hello. I have a simple questioon, Ho to grep line from a file? i have bug in file and i know it's on for example Line 372, now I want to check what i have in Line 372. Anyone Help.? |
| 13:56.10 | ToApolytoXaos | Polakko, Google is your friend http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-use-grep-command-in-linux-unix/ |
| 13:56.46 | pundit | themill: to be honest, i am on ubuntu right now. i just asked here in #debian because i thought it would be more intelligent here |
| 13:56.59 | pundit | themill: no, i did not double-post somewhere else |
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| 13:57.14 | Polakko | ToApolytoXaos: but theres nothing about how to find what is inside the Line. |
| 13:57.20 | themill | pundit: given that the init system is quite different between debian and ubuntu, that's a really bad move |
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| 13:58.03 | ToApolytoXaos | Polakko, what do you mean "inside the Line"? |
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| 13:58.31 | pundit | themill: oh. well, the really bad move was to have ubuntu on any machine! |
| 13:58.42 | archtimmy | Polakko: vim +372 file will open file on that line |
| 13:58.42 | Polakko | ToApolytoXaos: Like i Write smth ios wrong in a file. And i received and error that is on Line 472 |
| 13:58.50 | themill | Polakko: sed -n 372p foo.txt |
| 13:59.44 | ToApolytoXaos | or even better: vim +472 Line.txt |
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| 14:00.07 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, you try another browser ? |
| 14:00.13 | ToApolytoXaos | yes |
| 14:00.18 | ToApolytoXaos | i use chromium |
| 14:00.38 | Polakko | thanks |
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| 14:02.03 | pundit | themill: thanks again! |
| 14:02.18 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, chromium crash too ? |
| 14:02.23 | ToApolytoXaos | no |
| 14:02.36 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, ok |
| 14:02.48 | ToApolytoXaos | rarely if i screw things up with extensions |
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| 14:04.55 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, what extention need to install in chromium to run like firefox ? |
| 14:05.08 | ToApolytoXaos | why would you want to do such thing? |
| 14:05.22 | ToApolytoXaos | and when you say firefox, you mean iceweasel, right? |
| 14:05.45 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, yes iceweasel |
| 14:06.07 | aguitel | ToApolytoXaos, work with bookmarks |
| 14:06.11 | aguitel | for ex |
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| 14:06.20 | ToApolytoXaos | import them via chromium |
| 14:06.24 | ToApolytoXaos | and arrange them accordingly |
| 14:06.40 | ToApolytoXaos | else, export them from iceweasel and import the file in chromium |
| 14:06.55 | aguitel | ok |
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| 14:11.31 | darsie | Can someone help me get 1600x1200 screen resolution? Here is my xorg.conf and xorg.log http://paste.debian.net/24155/ |
| 14:12.38 | darsie | hmm, I'll try something before ... |
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| 14:19.49 | tremon | darsie: your monitor is announcing that it can't do anything higher than 1024x768, see the EDID lines in the log |
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| 14:21.44 | tremon | the magic phrase is ignoreedid, I'm pretty certain that applies to nouveau as well |
| 14:22.12 | darsie | tremon: I can't see that. Which line is that? My monitor can do 1600x1200 and even more. |
| 14:22.44 | darsie | trying ignoreedid ... |
| 14:23.10 | darsie | My VGA cable misses pin 9. is this required for edid? |
| 14:23.14 | tremon | lines 195-202 |
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| 14:23.33 | tremon | don't think so, since it seems to get at least some edid data |
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| 14:24.58 | tremon | see man gtf for generating your own modelines, I'm not up to date on this but the last I ran into this, I solved it by providing my own modelines |
| 14:25.40 | darsie | I can't find ignoreedid in 'man xorg.conf'. |
| 14:26.38 | tremon | no, they're in man radeon. which possibly means that they don't work for nouveau |
| 14:26.42 | tremon | :( |
| 14:27.18 | tremon | there's nothing similar in man 4 nouveau fafaics |
| 14:28.20 | tremon | you might want to ask on #dri or #nouveau |
| 14:28.51 | darsie | My old wheezy installation works with the nvidia driver, but that didn't work yesterday. |
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| 14:30.22 | tremon | darsie: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/TroubleShooting/#kernelmodesettingorxsetsabadornon-nativedisplaymode does mention it, but it's not very useful for solving it |
| 14:30.59 | tremon | is this a normal monitor or a tv? |
| 14:31.07 | darsie | 21" crt |
| 14:31.48 | darsie | monitor |
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| 14:34.43 | jmd | tremon, It's becoming hard to buy monitors, which are not tvs |
| 14:37.11 | tremon | I know, but TVs are notorious for their bad edid info. for monitors at least most of them get it right |
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| 14:40.35 | darsie | tremon: I tried with a modeline: http://paste.debian.net/24159/ didn't work. |
| 14:41.05 | darsie | I also tried Modes "1600x1200" |
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| 14:43.30 | darsie | Is it likely I can get back to nouveau when I try installing nvidia the debian way? Yesterday I installed nvidia the nvidia way and then the debian way and couldn't revert. |
| 14:45.17 | darsie | I'll try #nouveau ... |
| 14:45.57 | mechanicalduck | What is #nouveau? |
| 14:47.25 | darsie | channel for nouveau, an nvidia driver. |
| 14:47.58 | tremon | I know very little about the actual drivers and capabilities other than from reading about it, it's been many years since I"ve used an nvidia card |
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| 15:17.09 | antani | i have installed debian from dvds but if i install lilo or grub on mbr the installation doesn't work. How to resolv installing boot loader from debian dvds? |
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| 15:23.58 | esing | Hi |
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| 15:26.46 | esing | Is there a speed limitation of a tcp connection in debian's network stack configuration? I noticed that multiple users can't download a 10GB test file faster than 400-800 KB/s (on a 25-50 Mbit/s connection) or faster than 1,3-2 MB/s on a 100 Mbit/s or 1 Gbit/s connection. I tried many different protocols which all resulted in the same slow speed (sftp/ftps/ftp/http/https) |
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| 15:27.31 | esing | The system is debian squeeze |
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| 15:29.44 | reactormonk | Is it feasable to setup my own mailserver on a small box on a pseudo-static IP? |
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| 15:30.02 | darsie | esing: You could try to download from localhost. |
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| 15:30.45 | darsie | reactormonk: yes |
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| 15:31.24 | reactormonk | darsie, any information source you recommend? Or google keywords? |
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| 15:31.41 | reactormonk | I have found some that include only local setup, without all the DNS and so forth |
| 15:31.46 | darsie | reactormonk: No. I have exim and dovecot. |
| 15:31.52 | esing | darsie Do you mean downloading a test from the internet to the server? |
| 15:32.01 | esing | +file |
| 15:32.24 | darsie | esing: Download a test file from your computer to your computer, via the loopback interface. |
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| 15:32.56 | darsie | esing: Like, wget http://localhost/test |
| 15:33.20 | darsie | esing: If you have a webserver on your host. |
| 15:33.41 | jelly-home | esing: there are some suboptimal settings, but you should be able to saturate a 100Mpbs or reach 80-90% on 1Gbps ethernet easily |
| 15:33.53 | darsie | esing: I don't think there's a limit programmed, but of course every hardware has limited speed. |
| 15:34.03 | jelly-home | (without any tuning) |
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| 15:34.55 | jelly-home | esing: are you downloading the file from the same network segment? |
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| 15:37.38 | esing | No, the server is located in france and other users and me downloaded the test file on the webserver (lighttpd) from germany. |
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| 15:38.24 | hid3 | Hello everyone. How can I install a package from testing (it has no dependencies) and leave it to have security and other updates? |
| 15:38.40 | hid3 | I mean, just downloading and installing a .deb is not the case |
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| 15:41.22 | esing | darsie I tested it with wget localhost. It is downloading with around 60-70 MB/s |
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| 15:44.08 | darsie | You could use a ram disk. tmpfs. |
| 15:44.25 | darsie | and download to -O /dev/null |
| 15:44.37 | esing | Ye, then I probably reach full 1 Gbit/s |
| 15:45.00 | darsie | probably downloading another time to /dev/null will pull the file from cache. |
| 15:45.17 | esing | Is this test a hint that the issue is not from debian network stack configuration? |
| 15:45.20 | darsie | esing: No, loopback is not limited to 1 Gbit/s. |
| 15:45.29 | darsie | esing: yes |
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| 15:48.38 | asulil | hi all |
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| 15:56.46 | tremon | hid3: the correct answer is "don't do it". If you really want to, you can pin all your packages on stable (google apt::default-release) |
| 15:57.15 | jhutchins | What does one do for a network-manager interface in xfce? |
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| 16:00.31 | darsie | I managed to install nvidia the debian way. Probably the nvidia installer messed things up yesterday. |
| 16:01.20 | esing | I finished the test with a ramdisk: It begins with 300 MB/s 800 MB/s (until 30%), then falls down to 10 MB/s (until 35%), then jumped up to 300 MB/s (until 55%), then felt down to 10 MB/s(until 62%), then went up to 500 MB/s to the end |
| 16:01.58 | esing | I repeated the test, now it finished in 5,1s with 1,35G/s |
| 16:02.39 | antani | how to boot debian installed on hd from installation dvd? |
| 16:03.22 | darsie | esing: source file in ram disk and destination to ram or /dev/null? |
| 16:03.56 | esing | Source file in tmpfs (symlinked to the webserver lighttpd) and destination to dev/null |
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| 16:05.20 | jhutchins | Running xfce on squeeze, netork-manager-gnone wants 52 packages, -kde wants 127, gnome wins. |
| 16:05.54 | esing | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:06.39 | esing | All further downloads are now finished in 2,9s with 2,23 G/s |
| 16:07.34 | n2diy_ | Can I check my computers bios date from the cli? |
| 16:08.17 | jhutchins | n2diy_: It depends on the hardware. lshw/hwinfo can sometimes read it. |
| 16:08.24 | zmode | n2diy_: hwclock |
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| 16:10.42 | f8l | esing: If you have enough RAM to hold the entire file, it is not surprising at all. |
| 16:10.47 | n2diy_ | jhutchins, zmode, thanks, tried lshw and hwinfo, no luck, but hwclock worked, though I had to su - to use it, thanks. |
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| 16:17.02 | jhutchins | So he wanted the hwclock time, not the bios date. |
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| 16:19.46 | zmode | jhutchins: indeed |
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| 16:30.12 | mniip | why can't there be multiple versions of libsdl-dev on the systems |
| 16:30.38 | mniip | when i try to install amd64 it purges the i386 one, and vice versa |
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| 16:35.18 | vectory | mniip: because both install different versions of a file with the same name. the question would be, how to install both versions at once |
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| 16:35.55 | mniip | uh |
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| 16:36.02 | mniip | why do other things work the |
| 16:36.03 | mniip | n |
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| 16:37.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | with difficulties... different package names and different paths |
| 16:38.08 | mniip | CutMeOwnThroat, same name |
| 16:38.14 | mniip | and yes, different paths |
| 16:38.47 | mniip | why can't SDL do that too |
| 16:39.10 | CutMeOwnThroat | why don't you change the amd64 and i386 packages to just do that and submit a patch to them |
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| 16:41.05 | vectory | i imagine that problem isnt libsdl specific so a general approach should exist |
| 16:41.46 | vectory | like, install 64bit header files to a different prefix, e.g. in ~ and hint the compiler to search there first |
| 16:41.49 | mniip | vectory, yes, otherwise i'd be asking #sdl |
| 16:41.50 | rudi_s | mniip: Multiarch isn't supported for dev-packages yet AFAIK. |
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| 16:42.12 | rudi_s | Just use a chroot or tools like pbuilder/schroot to build the package. |
| 16:42.44 | mniip | rudi_s, if there isn't, why does my system have /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/ at all |
| 16:42.55 | rudi_s | mniip: I said, dev-packages. |
| 16:43.11 | mniip | oh |
| 16:43.17 | mniip | /usr/include/i386-linux-gnu/ is more or less empty |
| 16:43.18 | rudi_s | You can install x64 and x86 packages without problems, just not the dev-packages.s |
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| 16:43.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | multiarch is new |
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| 16:47.01 | rudi_s | mniip: Many packages were converted for wheezy, but not everything. |
| 16:47.16 | rudi_s | But multiarch works quite well on wheezy (and I have many packages in i386). |
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| 16:51.56 | n2diy | jhutchins, zmode, hwclock returns Jan 15 2003, so I assumed that was the Bios date? (date it was burned?) |
| 16:52.32 | n2diy | jhutchins, zmode, trying to get an approximate age of this computer. |
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| 16:52.48 | zmode | n2diy: there's the date the hardware clock keeps (the one the bios shows indeed) and the date the bios software was written |
| 16:53.10 | zmode | n2diy: reboot it and see what it writes or google the motherboard model |
| 16:53.26 | zmode | n2diy: hwclock returns the current hardware clock date |
| 16:53.30 | brolin_empey | Why does GRUB function as expected when booting from a CompactFlash (CF) card in a CF to PATA adapter connected to a desktop computer mainboard but GRUB enters rescue mode because it cannot find a partition when I try booting from the same CF card in a CF to PATA adapter in a notebook computer? :/ |
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| 16:58.36 | brolin_empey | Booting succeeds on both Asus K8N and Asus P5E-VM DO desktop computer mainboards. Booting fails on both IBM ThinkPad G40 and Compaq Armada 1750 notebook computers. |
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| 17:00.47 | jhutchins | n2diy: hwclock reads the internal system harware clock. |
| 17:01.00 | jhutchins | n2diy: Sounds like you need to write the current time to it. |
| 17:02.05 | n2diy_ | jhutchins, zmode, The reason I wanted to know the age of this box is because I'm having issues with USB flash storage devices. I found a 4g sd card that didn't work in this box, so I gave it to my roommate, and it worked in his phone. I just bought a 4gid SD card, and a 4gig USB stick, the stick works, and the card doesn't. LSHW show to USB controllers on board, on is ver 1.1, and the other ver 2.0, so I'm guessing the card reader is 1 |
| 17:02.05 | n2diy_ | .1, and can't read a 4 gig card, and the USB port is 2.0, and can read the 4gig stick? Anyway, getting ready to put the 4 gig card in my phone, and see if it works there? |
| 17:03.01 | jhutchins | n2diy_: Have you successfully read _any_ card on that system? You probably don't have the drivers for the reader. |
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| 17:03.29 | n2diy_ | jhutchins, my 1gig SD cards work fine. |
| 17:03.52 | n2diy_ | jhutchins, it is an SDHC compliance issue I think? |
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| 17:07.28 | jhutchins | n2diy_: The cards aren't USB devices, the reader is, so it's compatibility between the reader and the card, not the USB device. |
| 17:10.41 | n2diy_ | jhutchins, Yes, I think that is correct, the reader isn't SDHC compliant, so moving in it to the USB 2.0 port wouldn't change anything. |
| 17:12.02 | jhutchins | Is there a CLI command to turn bluetooth off? |
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| 17:18.18 | Will_Tampa | jhutchins: http://pseudomorph.wordpress.com/2012/01/15/disabling-bluetooth-as-default-in-debian-based-distros/ |
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| 17:44.18 | pederindi | iep, how to set screen resolution in debian text installer?, the screen is being split and I can't read the menus properly. I see in Ctrl+Alt+F2 I have a terminal ... |
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| 17:47.03 | f8l | pederindi: Maybe you could try to force your monitor to adjust the resolution? |
| 17:47.35 | pederindi | f8l: thanks for answer. It's a laptop, I don't see an autodetection screen |
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| 17:48.55 | f8l | pederindi: Did you try a GUI installer? |
| 17:49.10 | pederindi | f8l: I'm thinking about it, sure it works... but was curiosity :) |
| 17:49.15 | pederindi | I will go ahead to GUI installer |
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| 17:49.51 | f8l | pederindi: I'm surprised the text installer doesn't work properly for you. It should work well most of the time. |
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| 17:50.08 | f8l | pederindi: Maybe you should report it to the DI team? |
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| 17:51.35 | pederindi | f8l: tomorrow I have to send this laptop with debian installed, so I can't do a follow of the bug : / |
| 17:51.58 | f8l | pederindi: Ah, too bad. |
| 17:52.49 | pederindi | f8l: the problem seem to be a little "offset" to down, the end of screen is at top, so it's splitted. I don't know if i'm pressing "back" or "ok" (to continue) |
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| 17:54.28 | f8l | pederindi: It's probably something related to the graphic card, but I'm not an expert. |
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| 18:16.56 | pederindi | f8l: also doesn't work GUI installer :( |
| 18:17.19 | pederindi | f8l: only Debian Live, but his script "to install debian", say that doesn't find image. Any idea ? |
| 18:17.49 | f8l | pederindi: I have no idea… Maybe you can use an external output? |
| 18:17.55 | pederindi | aha |
| 18:18.01 | pederindi | thanks, nice idea |
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| 18:18.19 | pederindi | but external output will work with debian text installer ? |
| 18:18.22 | pederindi | i will try... |
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| 18:34.46 | mad_mode_on | Hi. Anyone here regularly version control /etc directory in Linux ? |
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| 18:34.56 | mischief | hi there |
| 18:35.16 | mischief | i have an old program using /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer, but it seems like when it uses that, it breaks all sound. |
| 18:35.35 | mischief | is there some package for debian that will fake /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer and redirect it to alsa? |
| 18:35.39 | pederindi | f8l: I tried with a 1920x... screen, nothing. After this, with a 1024x768 screen... and now I can see the text installer debian menu! Thanks for the idea : ) |
| 18:35.51 | pederindi | *external screen |
| 18:38.11 | f8l | mischief: alsa-oss? |
| 18:38.36 | f8l | pederindi: I'm glad I helped. :-) |
| 18:38.59 | mischief | f8l: that's a wrapper script.. isn't there a driver? |
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| 18:40.36 | f8l | mischief: There is, but I don't know the name. |
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| 18:53.42 | brontosaurusrex | an alternative to xfburn? |
| 18:54.01 | movl | k3b |
| 18:54.53 | rozie | brasero |
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| 18:55.47 | brontosaurusrex | k3b installing .... |
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| 19:01.47 | brontosaurusrex | What would be an app to change apperance of kde apps? |
| 19:02.15 | movl | systemsettings |
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| 19:11.03 | brontosaurusrex | movl, perfect, thanks |
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| 19:11.46 | movl | :) |
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| 19:12.30 | Poky | Hello guys. I had a GRUB installed on my notebook and wanted to reinstall the system, but couldn't load the USB stick over GRUB. So I had this great idea of just deleting the paritions (debian partition from Win7 installed on another) and well. Now it went to shit. GRUB is screaming missing parition obviously, but I can't get anywhere, can't load Win7 over grub rescue, can't boot live CD from USB (it gets stuck on SYSLINUX copyright messa |
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| 19:13.20 | abrotman | deleted what parttiions? |
| 19:13.59 | Poky | debian + swap |
| 19:14.06 | mechanicalduck | Why isn't there a debian package (wheezy) for VirtualBox Extension Pack? Not even in non-volatile? |
| 19:14.38 | abrotman | wtf is non-volatile? |
| 19:14.48 | abrotman | Poky: so you deleted the grub config files, etc? |
| 19:16.04 | ompaul | Poky: if your stick won't get past syslinux perhaps you should go to another computer with your stick and recreate the live image |
| 19:16.27 | Poky | abrotman: I would assume so. As clear as I can describe it (since I am noob I guess): 500GB disk, had 30GB for debian and swap.. deleted the whole 30GB where everything "linux related" was.. |
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| 19:17.26 | Poky | ompaul: The issue isn't the stick. I've created three different live images on it in the past hour.. I thought it could go "around" grub, but obviously something's broken |
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| 19:19.10 | abrotman | Poky: created how? |
| 19:19.34 | mechanicalduck | abrotman: hi |
| 19:19.59 | mechanicalduck | abrotman: non-volatile means closed source software which is very needed (drivers, other stuff) but can be installed by users |
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| 19:20.25 | Poky | abortman: well the last one was with pendrive universal usb isntaller or something. I know it works, I've always created bootable USBs this way |
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| 19:21.40 | abrotman | mechanicalduck: you mean non-free |
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| 19:23.09 | abrotman | mechanicalduck: what is the addon pack? i see several packages relating to 'virtualbox' that appear to be addons of some sort |
| 19:23.48 | mechanicalduck | abrotman: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads |
| 19:23.54 | mechanicalduck | abrotman: VirtualBox 4.2.16 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack |
| 19:24.17 | mechanicalduck | abrotman: but it is for VirtualBox 4.1.26 (see below) because this is the version of virtualbox of wheezy. |
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| 19:25.11 | abrotman | mechanicalduck: aptitude search virtualbox .. there are tons of packages. |
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| 19:25.22 | abrotman | I sitll don't know what that Oracle description includes |
| 19:25.45 | needhelp001 | Can someone help me with this very basic bash scripting problem: I want to get a date out of a html file and put day, month, and year in separate variables. My approach is: cat $FILE | grep -P '([0-9]{1,2})\.([0-9]{1,2})\.([0-9]{2,4})'. This works, but gives me the entire line. How can I get the parts? |
| 19:25.53 | musca | It's Oracles closed source stuff support for USB 2.0 devices, VirtualBox RDP and PXE boot for Intel cards. |
| 19:26.12 | brontosaurusrex | k3b roxors, no coasters so far |
| 19:26.42 | abrotman | needhelp001: ask #bash |
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| 19:26.55 | needhelp001 | okay |
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| 19:27.22 | jelly-home | mechanicalduck: you'll have to find out whether oracle allows redistribution of "VirtualBox Extension Pack" and under what terms |
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| 19:51.54 | adh0c | Hey - really stupid question: I'm trying to reinstall postfix from a blank slate. apt-get purging it wants to also remove AIDE, the IDS, which I would rather not purge. |
| 19:52.15 | adh0c | Is there a way to remove/reinstall without having to reinstall the dependencies as well? |
| 19:54.30 | mechanicalduck | adh0c: is AIDE from managed, too? or have you installed it by hand? |
| 19:54.57 | adh0c | mechanicalduck: it was also installed with the package manager. |
| 19:55.13 | mechanicalduck | adh0c: then just purge it with the package manager? |
| 19:55.22 | adh0c | It looks like maybe "aptitude unmarkauto" might do it? |
| 19:56.09 | adh0c | If I do that, it'll purge AIDE as well. I set AIDE up before even connecting to the network, so it has "clean" hashsums of my system, which I don't want to overwrite. |
| 19:56.44 | sevenfourk | adh0c: dpkg --ignore-depends=<items> can do that, but be careful add only aware packages. |
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| 19:57.44 | mechanicalduck | dpkg got many options as postfix :) |
| 19:57.45 | dpkg | mechanicalduck: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 19:58.01 | mechanicalduck | dpkg: hi |
| 19:58.02 | dpkg | hello, mechanicalduck |
| 19:58.20 | mechanicalduck | dpkg: you are a bot, right |
| 19:58.21 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
| 19:58.30 | mechanicalduck | dpkg: yes, he/it is |
| 19:58.31 | dpkg | mechanicalduck: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 19:58.38 | mechanicalduck | dpkg: no |
| 19:58.39 | dpkg | No Offense, or den norske debian kanalen #debian-no. For skandinaviske brukere av debian. It is the norwegian channel #debian-no for scandinavian users. |
| 19:58.50 | mechanicalduck | dpkg: how old are you |
| 19:58.51 | dpkg | 900 ... like Yoda ... |
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| 19:58.56 | mechanicalduck | lol |
| 20:00.22 | adh0c | Hmm, I think I'll just backup the AIDE database and then re-install that from scratch. |
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| 20:01.15 | HisaoNakai | mechanicalduck: Damn that's one intelligent bot. |
| 20:01.30 | mechanicalduck | HisaoNakai: not turing complete |
| 20:01.38 | mechanicalduck | HisaoNakai: you wrote it? |
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| 20:03.07 | HisaoNakai | mechanicalduck: lmfao no |
| 20:04.45 | mechanicalduck | Can the debian installer (d-i) also output its logs to a syslog server? |
| 20:04.51 | mechanicalduck | ipxe can do this, I want to do this with debian installer, too |
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| 20:13.55 | MyKEcze | Hi guys could you tell me how to safetly increase hdd size in debian 7.1? For example I have 60 GB hdd and there is swap 4gb, boot 1gb and rest for / ext4. Now I have expanded HDD to 120GB but how can I easily tell linux that it can expand root / ext4 volume to 120gb? Thank you. |
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| 20:14.37 | rryoumaa | adh0c: i am curious, did you choose aide over samhain and the others for specific reasons? |
| 20:14.41 | jonathanw | I have tried my best to search for an answer on the forums and through google |
| 20:14.56 | jonathanw | My installation isn't working right with cd or dvd |
| 20:15.16 | jonathanw | Debian installer is asking for the installation disk and the correct disk is in there |
| 20:15.25 | jonathanw | but the installer is not finding it |
| 20:15.40 | jonathanw | I've tried mounting the drives manually |
| 20:15.46 | jonathanw | I can even see the disk in terminal |
| 20:15.52 | jonathanw | but the installer cannot find it |
| 20:15.55 | jonathanw | please help |
| 20:17.11 | jonathanw | by the way the DebianInstaller is at: Configure the package manager step |
| 20:17.14 | MyKEcze | anybody tried to run debian under hyper-v vhd auto incremental mode? |
| 20:18.10 | adh0c | rryoumaa: not in particular, aside from the convenienc - ie, i had that documentation right infront of me. |
| 20:19.37 | musca | jonathanw: wich iso-image do you use and how did you create the media? |
| 20:20.20 | musca | which ... |
| 20:20.22 | jonathanw | I used img burn |
| 20:20.33 | jonathanw | and let me check on the iso range I don't know |
| 20:20.46 | jonathanw | I know that it is a standard dvd+r |
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| 20:21.20 | LtL | jonathanw: did you verify the burn with shasums |
| 20:21.25 | jonathanw | I did |
| 20:21.36 | jonathanw | and everything matched |
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| 20:22.38 | jonathanw | I've used these disks before on this computer I'm using right now actually had no problems |
| 20:23.04 | jonathanw | Might be the hardware perhaps |
| 20:23.16 | LtL | jonathanw: my guess is it was written wrong even though the checksums matched. did you burn with ms windows? |
| 20:23.22 | musca | or the wrong iso. |
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| 20:23.32 | jonathanw | Yes I did make the burn in windows |
| 20:23.40 | jonathanw | hmmm |
| 20:23.44 | jonathanw | gives me some food for though |
| 20:23.46 | jonathanw | thought |
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| 20:24.13 | jonathanw | is it possible to configure apt from the terminal |
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| 20:24.21 | psichas | cen help me somebody? i did stupid move i want remove changes... i called update-initramfs -c -v -k 3.2.46 how to remove changes? |
| 20:24.29 | jonathanw | if so maybe get the chance to really learn about Debian |
| 20:24.33 | jonathanw | some more |
| 20:24.44 | jonathanw | no joke I love this os |
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| 20:25.12 | psichas | cen help me somebody? i did stupid move i want remove changes... i called update-initramfs -c -v -k 3.2.36 how to remove changes? |
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| 20:25.58 | jonathanw | thanks everyone I'm going to reverify and see what's wrong with these disks and do my best to set up grub |
| 20:26.01 | LtL | jonathanw: try a better writer, i believe the windows iso imager of choice is win32imager or something |
| 20:26.07 | jonathanw | I will |
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| 20:26.22 | musca | psichas: so you build an initrd for the wrong kernel? |
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| 20:29.33 | psichas | musca i deleted ... just from -c changed to -d update-initramfs -d -v -k 3.2.46 |
| 20:29.42 | psichas | thanx anyway |
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| 20:30.24 | kaido | hello, i have trouble configuring soundcards i have two snd_hda_intel cards but only one is regonized ( the wrong one - nvidia hdmi ) |
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| 20:30.43 | Rickky | Morning |
| 20:30.46 | kaido | can someone please help that both cards are detected under /proc/asound/cards |
| 20:30.47 | kaido | ? |
| 20:31.08 | Rickky | After I ran the latest apt-get upgrade a2ensite does say <domain> does not exist while the file is actually in sites-available |
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| 20:47.20 | Rickky | Does anyone know why there are no php5.4 versions available in apt-get? Only 5.5 and 5.3 and I need to revert the last upgrade immediatly to 5.4 |
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| 20:47.53 | crane | Rickky, which debian version? |
| 20:48.15 | Rickky | Linux web02 3.5.0-37-generic #58~precise1-Ubuntu |
| 20:48.33 | crane | Rickky, ubuntu != debian |
| 20:49.22 | crane | Rickky, what does "cat /etc/issue" says? |
| 20:49.52 | Rickky | crane: I'm sorry that is true, shouldn't have gone here |
| 20:50.00 | Rickky | crane: You meant Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS version of course I'm sorry |
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| 20:50.11 | Rickky | Little stressed out since all stuff is basically down or broken right now |
| 20:50.40 | crane | Rickky, i have a ubuntu 12.04 running here... the default package there is 5.3 |
| 20:51.00 | crane | so i'm not sure about the support for php5.4 |
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| 20:51.44 | Rickky | crane: I just realized it's installed through debphp.org repo |
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| 20:51.56 | Rickky | I should revert that and install php4 through original ubuntu repo |
| 20:52.47 | crane | Rickky, yep, you should do that ^^ |
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| 21:09.49 | Rickky | crane: I'm breaking more and more stuff |
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| 21:10.01 | Rickky | Reinstalled php 5.4 now |
| 21:10.13 | Rickky | Now apache downloads files instead of executing php |
| 21:10.36 | Rickky | Trying to install libapache2-mod-php5 but getting error Depends: apache2.2-common but it is not going to be installed |
| 21:10.50 | Rickky | crane: Already tried apt-get clean && apt-get update but no luck |
| 21:11.34 | crane | Rickky, have you also upgrade your apache to 2.4? |
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| 21:12.27 | crane | Rickky, first at all pruge the hole php5 package including also the libapache stuff |
| 21:12.50 | Rickky | crane: With ppa purge you mean? |
| 21:12.58 | Rickky | (I already appreciate your help by the way) |
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| 21:13.36 | crane | Rickky, np ^^, no purge the package with apt-get remove --purge php5 libapache2-mod-php5 |
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| 21:14.06 | psichas | vladuke: ti dievyshki? :D |
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| 21:15.00 | Rickky | crane: Yes done |
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| 21:15.31 | crane | okay now try to install php5 and the libapache again |
| 21:15.38 | crane | and paste me the output of apt-get |
| 21:15.43 | crane | if it fails |
| 21:16.04 | Rickky | crane: But when I install php through ubuntu repo's I get 5.3 and I actually want 5.4 (to make it all a little bit more complicated...) |
| 21:16.15 | Rickky | crane: That's why I used a ppa in the first plce |
| 21:16.18 | Rickky | plcae |
| 21:16.19 | Rickky | ... |
| 21:16.21 | Rickky | place |
| 21:16.27 | psichas | hm apt-get install php=5.4? |
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| 21:17.11 | Rickky | psichas: Except that does not exist as a version nor package |
| 21:17.34 | psichas | but you need know true version |
| 21:17.50 | psichas | apt-show-versions | grep php |
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| 21:18.33 | crane | Rickky, which ppa did you used? |
| 21:18.53 | Rickky | psichas: That command doesn't even seem to exist, I used madison to find correct one apt-cache madison php5 |
| 21:19.00 | psichas | hm i'm talking about debian :) |
| 21:19.01 | Rickky | crane: https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5-oldstable |
| 21:19.17 | crane | Rickky, but you can try as a really dirty way to download the 5.4 version from debian repos |
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| 21:20.06 | Rickky | crane: I removed the old ppa that was installed in the first place, which appearently got updated to 5.5. Now I added that php5-oldstable one to get the 5.4 back I had in the beginning |
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| 21:21.29 | peterrooney | crane, Rickky, why is this conversation here and not in #ubuntu ? |
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| 21:22.30 | Rickky | peterrooney: Because people in #debian are actually friendly and in #ubuntu no one bothers to help sir |
| 21:22.34 | crane | peterrooney, true... just had a good day and wanted not to send him away |
| 21:23.01 | mumpitzel | Rickky: we are NOT friendly when ubuntu users want support in #debian. very are very very grumpy then |
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| 21:23.43 | peterrooney | If your conversation were in #ubuntu, people running Ubuntu could benefit from it. |
| 21:24.16 | crane | we go switching to privae messages ;) |
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| 21:24.24 | Rickky | peterrooney: crane mumpitzel I am sorry I am asking about ubuntu stuff in here. I have a production server that is completely messed up and I have not been doing sysadmin work for quite a while. It's not any of your problems or responsibilities at all, it's just I appreciated the help you guys where giving |
| 21:24.24 | peterrooney | So, you're depriving them of your wisdom and experience, and filling this channel with noise. |
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| 21:25.35 | peterrooney | Rickky, thank you. But if you take advice intended for a debian system and apply it to an ubuntu system, don't be surprised if it makes things worse. |
| 21:26.21 | peterrooney | wonders if it's Sunday already. |
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| 21:27.24 | mumpitzel | only for another 33 minutes. then it's thankfully over |
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| 21:57.52 | tapout | when setting up iptables, is there an easy way to say "any local ips" ? if my ips change, add more.. will it automatically sense the new ip and let through the local connections? |
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| 21:58.44 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.44 | Seb | tapout: why not use -i <interface> ? |
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| 21:59.17 | Seb | tapout: instead of going by IP ? |
| 22:00.31 | tapout | seb, i didn't know you could do iptables per interface |
| 22:01.31 | Seb | tapout: see if -i instead of -s/-f works for your needs |
| 22:01.52 | Seb | ompaul: that isn't related to tapout's question at all, now is it ? |
| 22:02.49 | tapout | i think he's saying add ips per range |
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| 22:03.18 | ompaul | Seb: I think tapout worked out my idea |
| 22:03.53 | ompaul | and if you have some simple / hard idea about adding only some of the boxes to the network but not others then you may want to add them one at a time on a /32 basis |
| 22:03.54 | Seb | well if your IP changes because your ISP gives you a new one for instance, how is white/blacklisting a /NN going to help ? |
| 22:04.11 | kisu | emacs |
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| 22:04.15 | ompaul | kisu: vi |
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| 22:04.31 | mad_mode_on | I need a shell script to read row by row of a text file. Each row has this format valuabledata:dispansabledata . I need to extract valuabledata ony and write it to a new text file. |
| 22:04.33 | exorcist | Hi guys can anybody help me install my debian image on my tablet i get permission denied error and i cannt switch to root |
| 22:04.34 | ompaul | Seb: local ips to me are downstream of my linux firewall |
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| 22:04.50 | ompaul | i.e. 192.168 and friends |
| 22:04.51 | Seb | ompaul: i'm sure that's true for everyone out there as well |
| 22:04.53 | Seb | shrugs |
| 22:05.58 | Seb | mad_mode_on: perl -pe 's/:.*//' input.txt > output.txt |
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| 22:06.52 | ompaul | exorcist: what o/s is on it before you start and what chipset is in it |
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| 22:09.18 | psichas | hi guys, i would know is here ok all with this hardware or no? http://paste.debian.net/24237/ |
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| 22:13.09 | peterrooney | mad_mode_on: cut, awk - e.g. cut --delimiter=: --fields=1 datafile> newtextfile |
| 22:16.08 | ompaul | cut -d":" -f1 datafile >newstuff (just for less characters) |
| 22:16.11 | mad_mode_on | thank you peterrooney and Seb you are the ones |
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| 22:34.48 | s0m3body | Hello, I was wondering how I could set up a RAID type program on my server (want the disks to be combined) but the disks are in use |
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| 22:39.32 | jiohdi | is there a firewall package for debian? |
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| 22:40.45 | s0m3body | jiohdi: iptables |
| 22:40.55 | mtn | jiohdi: http://packages.debian.org |
| 22:41.17 | jiohdi | s0m3body: I already have that installed, do I have to tweak it? |
| 22:41.19 | jhutchins | Will_Tampa: Thanks! |
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| 22:41.29 | s0m3body | jiohdi: ideally, if you want it to work |
| 22:41.39 | s0m3body | jiohdi: desktop or server? |
| 22:41.47 | jiohdi | desktop |
| 22:42.05 | Will_Tampa | LOL ... jhutchins you must be busy today |
| 22:42.08 | s0m3body | jiohdi: try firestarter firewall (not sure of the package name), it's like a manager for iptables |
| 22:42.32 | jhutchins | I think ufw is the default, but a firewall can't really protect the decice it's installed on. |
| 22:42.57 | s0m3body | do any of you know how I could set up a raid array after install? |
| 22:42.58 | jhutchins | Windows needs it because it's such a security hole, but linux shouldn't. |
| 22:43.24 | s0m3body | or a virtual raid? |
| 22:43.39 | jhutchins | If you're running Linux as a router then it makes sense to run a firewall. |
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| 22:44.49 | nphase | so, this is definitely not the right place to ask but I'm unsure where else to ask it: |
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| 22:45.16 | nphase | ulimit -n as user me shows 99999 |
| 22:45.21 | nphase | which is set in /etc/security/limits.conf |
| 22:45.34 | nphase | i am using supervisor to run a program as me |
| 22:45.43 | s0m3body | supervisor? |
| 22:45.59 | jiohdi | is there a way to tell if my debian has been infected... I recently ran a live cd of xubuntu w/mir and on reboot the login was gone I got dumped to a tty1 login only no x11, startx put me in I am guessing a default gnome session but I had no means of returning to my i3 session |
| 22:46.02 | Will_Tampa | SuperUser? |
| 22:46.08 | nphase | yeah supervisord: http://supervisord.org/ |
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| 22:46.24 | nphase | max open files on the process though, instead of 99999 |
| 22:46.26 | s0m3body | jiohdi: there are no viruses for linux (well, maybe a few) |
| 22:46.30 | nphase | cat /proc/23893/limits | grep files: Max open files 1024 4096 files |
| 22:46.50 | s0m3body | wtf is supervisor? |
| 22:46.53 | jiohdi | s0m3body: there are cleaver people out there and something ate my login screen |
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| 22:47.05 | nphase | its right in ulimit, its set in /etc/security/limits.conf, but when the process starts, its still set to 1024 soft/4096 hard |
| 22:47.06 | s0m3body | jiohdi: there are also dumb people who may have uninstalled it :p |
| 22:47.21 | nphase | s0m3body: http://supervisord.org/ |
| 22:47.26 | s0m3body | oh |
| 22:47.28 | exorcist | Can someone help me install debian image on my tablet |
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| 22:47.35 | jiohdi | s0m3body: the only thing I did is run a live CD how could that uninstall it? |
| 22:47.35 | s0m3body | it's like launchd |
| 22:47.35 | jarray52 | When I run `lsof -t -i @localhost:24800 -sTCP:listen`, I get 5129. However, when I run `ps aux | grep ssh`; I get "1000 5149 0.0 0.0 41340 852 ? Ss 15:49 0:00 ssh -f -N -R 24800:localhost:24800 desktop@192.168.10.10". Is there a reason the process ids don't match? |
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| 22:48.06 | s0m3body | jiohdi: Don't know, maybe you did a partial install of the new OS? |
| 22:48.10 | exorcist | I get error permission denied and i cannt switch to root |
| 22:48.21 | jiohdi | s0m3body: no indications of that |
| 22:48.33 | nphase | so - how do i actually set the max open files??? |
| 22:48.33 | exorcist | I launch debian from linux installer |
| 22:48.46 | s0m3body | jiohdi: so what's the issue? Your login screen is gone? |
| 22:49.12 | jiohdi | s0m3body: I got that back, the issues is if something on that live cd did it, what might it have done that i dont see? |
| 22:49.15 | s0m3body | nphase: is the supervisor running as root? |
| 22:49.20 | nphase | yes |
| 22:49.27 | s0m3body | jiohdi: What OS was it? |
| 22:49.36 | s0m3body | nphase: well how do you expect to set a limit on root? |
| 22:49.37 | jiohdi | xubuntu with mir |
| 22:49.58 | nphase | s0m3body: im not running it as root. and the rule in /etc/security/limits.conf is * |
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| 22:49.59 | s0m3body | jiohdi: seems trusted enough.. most viruses are like rm -rf / |
| 22:50.09 | nphase | erm, im not running the process* as root |
| 22:50.13 | nphase | supervisor is running as root |
| 22:50.16 | s0m3body | yeah |
| 22:50.27 | s0m3body | supervisor is running as root, and that's what you're trying to limit |
| 22:50.37 | jiohdi | just paranoid that someone tampered with it |
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| 22:51.32 | s0m3body | jiohdi: doubt it :p |
| 22:51.55 | sianios | While I was looking more about Cinnamon desktop environment i found about Apt-Pinning, and I was wondering if any of u has done it and if u suggest it. |
| 22:52.52 | nphase | s0m3body: no, im trying to limit the process, not supervisor |
| 22:53.04 | abrotman | sianios: not really suggested, not for something like that |
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| 22:53.44 | s0m3body | nphase: ohh, and the actual limiter is running under supervisor? |
| 22:54.51 | abrotman | judd: backport-check cinnamon |
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| 22:55.12 | abrotman | judd: backportcheck cinnamon |
| 22:55.14 | nphase | s0m3body: supervisor is root. it is running someprogram as someuser. trying to set it for that user. regardless, it should be set to 99999 everywhere |
| 22:55.25 | abrotman | maybe broke the bot |
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| 22:55.55 | s0m3body | nphase: can you pastebin limits.conf? |
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| 22:56.08 | zykotick9 | judd: checkbackport cinnamon |
| 22:56.10 | judd | Backporting package cinnamon in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libmuffin-dev (>= 1.7.1). |
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| 22:56.24 | abrotman | i was close! |
| 22:56.30 | sianios | abrotman, ok man thanks, maybe I'll try it later in a VM |
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| 22:56.39 | abrotman | themillnothere!!! |
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| 22:57.01 | nphase | s0m3body: http://pastie.org/8228020 |
| 22:57.07 | abrotman | sianios: apt-pinning works very well in some cases .. other times, it leads to crying |
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| 22:58.12 | s0m3body | nphase: I don't think it recognizes * as a user, try actually setting it for the username that you need it for |
| 22:58.48 | nphase | s0m3body: it does. if i run ulimit -n as the user in a normal shell: 99999 |
| 22:58.50 | sianios | abrotman, yeah, I realized that when u told me that u don't suggest it |
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| 22:59.05 | sianios | abrotman, anw thanks again |
| 22:59.15 | s0m3body | nphase: and if you run that from supervisor? |
| 22:59.42 | nphase | s0m3body: well, its a |
| 22:59.47 | nphase | you cant really |
| 22:59.50 | nphase | its not a daemon |
| 22:59.56 | s0m3body | oh |
| 22:59.58 | abrotman | sianios: btw, I think Cinnamon is a great idea, so if you can hold out, please do .. in the mean time, gnome3 really is pretty good |
| 23:00.07 | s0m3body | nphase: Im not sure :/ Sorry |
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| 23:05.02 | natsukao | hi |
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| 23:05.41 | natsukao | how to use lftp to transfer data from local pc on a ftp ? |
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| 23:07.28 | sianios | abrotman, nahh i don't like gnome3 ;p |
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| 23:09.21 | mad_mode_on | I need a shell script to read row by row of a text file. Each row has this format "valuabledata OK" (without quotations) . I need to extract valuabledata ony and write it to a new text file. |
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| 23:11.24 | Seb | mad_mode_on: do you think you could make a small effort and adapt one of the solutions given to you earlier ? |
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| 23:11.51 | jarray52 | When I run `lsof -t -i @localhost:24800 -sTCP:listen`, I get 5685. However, when I run `ps aux | grep ssh`; I get "1000 5705 0.0 0.0 41340 848 ? Ss 16:16 0:00 ssh -f -N -R 24800:localhost:24800 desktop@192.168.10.10". Is there a reason the process ids don't match? The process Id is always 20 less, which I find quite odd. |
| 23:12.17 | Seb | mad_mode_on: peterrooney's solution was very clear and can be tweaked to work with your new format in no time |
| 23:12.20 | mad_mode_on | Seb: I tried. But cut works only for one char |
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| 23:12.57 | Weping | Hi all |
| 23:13.08 | Seb | mad_mode_on: your new delimiter is not ':' anymore, but it's still one-character long |
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| 23:29.18 | jarray52 | When I run `lsof -t -i @localhost:24800 -sTCP:listen`, I get 5685. However, when I run `ps aux | grep ssh`; I get "1000 5705 0.0 0.0 41340 848 ? Ss 16:16 0:00 ssh -f -N -R 24800:localhost:24800 desktop@192.168.10.10". Is there a reason the process ids don't match? The process Id is always 20 less, which I find quite odd. This only happens with ssh forwarded ports, but it happens every time. Seems like a bug or secuirty hole. |
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| 23:35.31 | peterrooney | jarray52: grep -v grep ? |
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| 23:38.10 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 23:38.14 | jarray52 | peterrooney: What are you suggesting with grep -v grep? Do you believe the grep process is somehow being confused with the other process? |
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| 23:42.43 | johnfg | I'm running wheezy mainly. Just noticed a problem with a php script that I don't 'think' was in squeeze. |
| 23:43.43 | johnfg | However, for some reason, when I try to open the php scripts in squeeze, they're not being run, but the system is trying to open them (the server, I guess). |
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| 23:43.54 | dankk | hey howdy hey |
| 23:44.02 | dankk | I wanted to come thank you guys, I finally got my shit working |
| 23:44.10 | johnfg | How do I make sure that php is being called properly in squeeze? |
| 23:44.25 | NiLon | johnfg open how? does it offer file to be downloaded from server? |
| 23:44.41 | dankk | I have a fully encrypted debian system |
| 23:44.44 | dankk | It feels so.. |
| 23:44.45 | dankk | safe |
| 23:44.50 | dankk | like my childhood blanket |
| 23:44.53 | johnfg | NiLon: ya, to download and look at the script instead of running it. |
| 23:45.04 | s0m3body | dankk: I'd be concerned if your "shit" wasn't working |
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| 23:45.14 | dankk | why's that? |
| 23:45.22 | dankk | I mean, normally I'd fish it out in the shower but... |
| 23:45.32 | dankk | did you mean my computer or..? |
| 23:45.50 | NiLon | johnfg well it means that your webserver doesn't have handler for php files |
| 23:46.14 | NiLon | what server you are using? |
| 23:46.30 | johnfg | apache2 |
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| 23:47.20 | NiLon | have you installed libapache2-mod-php5 or made somekind (f)cgi script for apache then? |
| 23:47.25 | dankk | what should I be using for a terminal? |
| 23:47.29 | dankk | Xterm? |
| 23:47.31 | dankk | konsole? |
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| 23:48.28 | johnfg | NiLon: Ya got me thinkin...will check back in a few. THanks! |
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| 23:52.09 | zykotick9 | dankk: personally, I like urxvt (aka rxvt-unicode)... YMMV |
| 23:52.29 | dankk | but konsole is sufficient, right? |
| 23:53.07 | jarray52 | peterrooney: Do you want me to run grep -v grep? |
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| 23:53.38 | dankk | Would an encrypted drive cause my files to download slowly? |
| 23:53.51 | dankk | or is it just the download server |
| 23:53.52 | jarray52 | dankk: It shouldn't. |
| 23:53.59 | dankk | okay, thanks |
| 23:54.11 | dankk | just took me like 2 minutes to download 37mb |
| 23:54.12 | johnfg_ | NiLon: Got it fixed. A few things changed that I wasn't aware of. |
| 23:54.13 | jarray52 | dankk: What hardware do you have? |
| 23:54.29 | dankk | uhh, gigabit ethernet, sata HD 5000rpm |
| 23:54.44 | dankk | 256bit serpent |
| 23:54.51 | medusaXX | how can I have dpkg-statoverride apply user/mode/permissions to all the saved files? |
| 23:54.58 | jarray52 | dankk: Is the download on the local network? |
| 23:55.05 | dankk | nope |
| 23:55.20 | medusaXX | i added several records to the statoverride database but after a package upgrade, permissions are not altered according to my statoverrides |
| 23:55.52 | jarray52 | That's probably just the download server. Try scp ing a file over the local network. A 37mb file should scp pretty fast. |
| 23:56.03 | dankk | I thought so |
| 23:56.10 | dankk | thanks for the advice, I have to go |
| 23:56.16 | dankk | =] |
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| 23:58.10 | jarray52 | When I run `lsof -t -i @localhost:24800 -sTCP:listen`, I get 5685. However, when I run `ps aux | grep ssh`; I get "1000 5705 0.0 0.0 41340 848 ? Ss 16:16 0:00 ssh -f -N -R 24800:localhost:24800 desktop@192.168.10.10". Is there a reason the process ids don't match? The process Id is always 20 less, which I find quite odd. This only happens with ssh forwarded ports, but it happens every time. Seems like a bug or secuirty hole. |
