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| 00:02.00 | Na_Klar | plugging a ssd to one of the sata ports ends in debian halting on initramfs. How can this come? The OS isn't on this ssd of course and the ssd worked before (ext3, mbr). |
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| 00:10.56 | cusco | Na_Klar: the disk order in bios ? |
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| 00:11.55 | Na_Klar | cusco, the bios boots from the right hd ... it has to, since otherwise initramfs couldn't appear in the first place |
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| 00:12.24 | cusco | Na_Klar: perhaps hd0 or hd1 (root in grub) is no longer the same device? |
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| 00:12.42 | atomdream | i try to use the terminal in debian 7.1.0 but when i try to execute command with sudo i get this message - "is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." |
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| 00:13.06 | cusco | atomdream: is there a question? |
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| 00:13.21 | cusco | the message explains itself |
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| 00:13.47 | atomdream | cusco, yes but how do i add myself in sudoers file ? |
| 00:13.47 | cusco | (they normally do that= |
| 00:14.04 | cusco | either edit /etc/sudoers or use command: visudo |
| 00:14.19 | Na_Klar | cusco, well ... that might be something .. on the other hand: I tried also to mount the ssd via an icybox (sata2usb case) and it does not work. I have in mind that the ssd might be broken, but I cannot think of a way that it would force my os to halt on initramfs |
| 00:15.02 | atomdream | cusco, bash: visudo: command not found |
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| 00:15.18 | cusco | Na_Klar: grub and root device, is the only thing that comes to mind. Easy to test, plug a working disk in the same sata port anc see if the same problem occurs |
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| 00:15.32 | cusco | when you try to mount it, what error does it present (in dmesg?) |
| 00:15.40 | cusco | !visudo |
| 00:15.40 | dpkg | i heard visudo is how you add users to your /etc/sudoers file. 'man visudo' for details, and also ask me about <sudoers>, or respects $EDITOR while doing sanity checking (prevents *some* critical commits of broken sudoers). |
| 00:15.56 | cusco | you must be root |
| 00:15.59 | cusco | to run visudo |
| 00:16.25 | Na_Klar | cusco, other disks work fine on every sata port. |
| 00:16.59 | cusco | I mean't booting the OS with another disk in the same sataport |
| 00:17.06 | cusco | does it not drop to initramfs? |
| 00:17.10 | Na_Klar | no |
| 00:17.14 | cusco | what is the message before dropping on initramfs ? |
| 00:17.20 | Na_Klar | softreset failed |
| 00:17.39 | cusco | that seems like a disk problem yes .. |
| 00:17.49 | cusco | dunno, grub must be checking disks for some reason .. |
| 00:17.50 | Na_Klar | hardware? |
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| 00:18.07 | cusco | not grub, I mean.. err initramfs or something |
| 00:18.19 | cusco | initrd rather |
| 00:18.21 | cusco | (I think) |
| 00:18.33 | atomdream | cusco, what should i do after i execute visudo command |
| 00:18.37 | cusco | well hardware problem causing a software problem |
| 00:18.45 | Na_Klar | well ... I'd kill the disk and re-format it .. but I cannot access it in any way |
| 00:18.50 | cusco | atomdream: type "su" |
| 00:18.56 | cusco | will ask you for root password |
| 00:19.08 | cusco | now you're root and have permissions to add your user to the /etc/sudoers file |
| 00:19.53 | atomdream | cusco, how should it look like ? |
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| 00:20.16 | cusco | there is a example there |
| 00:20.18 | cusco | on the file |
| 00:20.19 | cusco | read it |
| 00:20.48 | atomdream | cusco, root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL |
| 00:20.48 | atomdream | ? |
| 00:21.06 | cusco | change root for your username |
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| 00:22.03 | atomdream | ok |
| 00:23.23 | atomdream | cusco, root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL |
| 00:23.27 | atomdream | oops |
| 00:23.35 | atomdream | cusco, root is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
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| 00:24.22 | atomdream | cusco, ive done it the right way ? |
| 00:24.42 | cusco | open a new terminal |
| 00:24.48 | cusco | and type sudo id |
| 00:24.52 | cusco | or sudo something |
| 00:25.22 | atomdream | cusco, uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root) |
| 00:26.11 | cusco | ta da! |
| 00:26.21 | atomdream | ive broke something ? :D |
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| 00:27.40 | cusco | I think you removed user root from sudoers, but that is ok |
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| 00:27.42 | cusco | root is already root |
| 00:27.45 | cusco | :) |
| 00:28.00 | atomdream | cusco, is it normal to get a message E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 00:28.00 | atomdream | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 00:28.00 | atomdream | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.13 | cusco | another proccess using it? |
| 00:28.22 | cusco | do you have synaptics open? |
| 00:28.29 | cusco | ps aux|grep apt |
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| 00:29.06 | Theoden | So - can someone in here speak to the question of 'how stable is Jessie' these days? |
| 00:29.12 | atomdream | i feel stupid |
| 00:29.33 | themill | Theoden: hasn't eaten any babies for at least two or three days. |
| 00:29.38 | themill | dpkg: tell Theoden about moving target |
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| 00:30.55 | atomdream | cusco, ty |
| 00:30.57 | Theoden | themill: I'm familiar with testing overall and how that goes, but right after a new debian release, testing can be a bit rough. Just curious if it has settle down. |
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| 00:31.30 | cusco | good luck atomdream |
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| 00:31.46 | atomdream | cusco, i decided to end with windows thats why i ask stupid questions lol |
| 00:32.27 | atomdream | it was hard insalling debian since i had some firmware problems |
| 00:32.28 | cusco | ok! good luck |
| 00:32.34 | cusco | :) |
| 00:32.40 | creeperguy2 | hello |
| 00:32.58 | abrotman | Theoden: it really depends on what you're using |
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| 00:33.00 | atomdream | it was installing for like 01:30 |
| 00:33.01 | themill | Theoden: well a pile of new gnome and kde is about to hit it. We're in the middle of breaking apache. A new version of perl in a month or so. We must be owed an xorg transition too. http://deb.li/xns |
| 00:33.15 | atomdream | it is kinda strange because i got i7 |
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| 00:33.53 | atomdream | cusco, can you explain why it took so much time ? |
| 00:34.08 | cusco | not really |
| 00:34.29 | Theoden | themill: Gottcha - sounds like some big fun ahead. :) |
| 00:34.30 | atomdream | i was sitting with blank blue screen for like 40 minutes |
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| 00:35.33 | themill | Theoden: about normal |
| 00:35.38 | rypervenche | Is it possible to not use Pulseaudio on Debian 7? |
| 00:35.46 | Theoden | themill: lol. |
| 00:36.09 | abrotman | rypervenche: sure, just fight with it .. but why? |
| 00:37.03 | rypervenche | abrotman: I'm helping a friend with his system and he keeps having audio problems and it would just be easier for me to remove it completely since he doesn't really need it for anything he's using. Is it possible to disable/remove it? |
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| 00:38.12 | cusco | I guess dealing with them audio problems would be nicer than running from them |
| 00:38.28 | cusco | but I believe you can remove pulseaudio packages and use plain alsa |
| 00:38.38 | abrotman | rypervenche: in wheezy, pulse isn't likely the problem |
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| 00:41.40 | rypervenche | abrotman: http://d.ryper.org/paste.txt It looks as though he's having two problems. The main one is Skype will crash every now and then. The first message is what that shows. The second bit is his X session seems to crash and the system seems to make a clicking noise. I'd rather focus on the first problem for now though. |
| 00:42.07 | rypervenche | abrotman: Well, the paste has two bits, both pertaining to the first issue. |
| 00:42.21 | atomdream | cusco, how do i access directories which are not shown? |
| 00:42.29 | cusco | ls -A |
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| 00:43.26 | atomdream | cusco, but in a gui explorer ? |
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| 00:44.34 | atomdream | cusco, i need to copy a file into a hidden directory how do i do that ? |
| 00:44.51 | abrotman | rypervenche: skype is buggy? which X driver are oyu using? it may be related |
| 00:45.28 | cusco | atomdream: there is some option in nautilus to display hidden folders |
| 00:45.40 | cusco | can find it on google really easy |
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| 00:45.56 | atomdream | cusco, how to do it with terminal ? |
| 00:45.58 | rypervenche | abrotman: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:0116] (rev 09) |
| 00:46.15 | abrotman | atomdream: ls -a |
| 00:46.22 | abrotman | rypervenche: seems fairly old? |
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| 00:46.27 | abrotman | rypervenche: this is wheezy? |
| 00:46.33 | rypervenche | i915, this is wheezy, brand new computer. |
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| 00:46.44 | abrotman | that's not i915 class |
| 00:46.55 | atomdream | abrotman, i need to copy a file into a hidden directory how do i do that ? |
| 00:47.26 | rypervenche | abrotman: That's the module that the kernel seems to be using for it, according to lspci -k |
| 00:47.30 | cusco | cp src dst |
| 00:47.33 | abrotman | atomdream: Which versoin of Linux is this? |
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| 00:47.41 | cusco | ututu |
| 00:47.42 | abrotman | rypervenche: ah, probably |
| 00:47.48 | atomdream | abrotman, debian 7.1.0 i think |
| 00:47.49 | abrotman | cusco: asking thme, not you |
| 00:47.54 | abrotman | atomdream: man cp |
| 00:48.23 | cusco | I'm sarcastically guessing. sorry |
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| 00:51.37 | atomdream | abrotman, cusco it helped |
| 00:51.46 | atomdream | abrotman, cusco ty |
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| 00:53.48 | atomdream | abrotman, cusco where can i learn basic commands ? |
| 00:54.34 | abrotman | atomdream: several websites have basic tutorials |
| 00:54.37 | abrotman | !newbie guide |
| 00:54.39 | abrotman | hrm .. |
| 00:54.54 | abrotman | dpkg: tell atomdream about grounding |
| 00:55.00 | atomdream | bcz it would be very usefull |
| 00:55.32 | abrotman | try google |
| 00:55.34 | atomdream | abrotman, whats grounding? |
| 00:56.27 | themill | dpkg: tell atomdream about general cli tutorial |
| 00:58.29 | rypervenche | abrotman: So it looks as though pulseaudio doesn't have a ton of dependencies like it used to...maybe that was on Ubuntu. Removed it, we'll see if that resolves/covers up his problem. :P |
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| 00:59.09 | abrotman | rypervenche: it's really not likely the problem |
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| 00:59.28 | rypervenche | Probably not. |
| 00:59.45 | abrotman | rypervenche: Pulse was not so stable in squeez,e it's much better in wheezy |
| 00:59.47 | atomdream | themill, abrotman i got banned for asking questions on #ubuntu and #ubuntu-ru , so i switched to debian |
| 01:00.26 | dvs | pulse audio is good? |
| 01:00.28 | abrotman | atomdream: you likely got banned because you're not doing enough homework on your own |
| 01:00.33 | abrotman | dvs: works just fine here |
| 01:00.35 | themill | atomdream: you're unlikely to get banned for asking (on-topic) questions. You might get banned for not reading the answers, however. |
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| 01:01.19 | atomdream | so im acting bad right now ? |
| 01:01.31 | dvs | gets out the baton |
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| 01:04.38 | atomdream | i thought thats the reason why community exist, to help eachother and newcommers, but ok. |
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| 01:06.28 | abrotman | they do not exist to spoonfeed people that are too lazy to even try to solve their own problems |
| 01:08.05 | atomdream | abrotman, you were spoonfed too, but i could be wrong. |
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| 01:08.58 | abrotman | atomdream: you're wrong, stop assuming |
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| 01:09.28 | atomdream | abrotman, natural born linux genius ? |
| 01:09.33 | atomdream | ok |
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| 01:10.14 | themill | atomdream: we need people to learn how to do things on their own or the entire thing breaks down very quickly. This doesn't mean you don't get help, it means you work on things on your own for a bit, you read some documentation, you make a bit more progress, you get stuck, you ask for a suggestion, you get some more ideas, you go off and keep working. |
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| 01:12.46 | atomdream | themill, exactly what im doing. but in some cases i could use google instead of bothering people, yes. But why not to bother if someone is willing to help you? |
| 01:12.53 | Quashie | what shells do people use? |
| 01:13.12 | abrotman | atomdream: use google |
| 01:13.17 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Quashie about polls |
| 01:13.31 | Quashie | oh, sorry |
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| 01:13.51 | abrotman | atomdream: perhaps instead of a linux genius, i'm someone capable of doing my own research .. don't be a jerk |
| 01:13.51 | atomdream | themill, now i got some documentation thanks to abrotman, cusco, you. Now i will learn faster. I cant see any problems here. |
| 01:13.59 | abrotman | can |
| 01:14.27 | themill | atomdream: people in this channel are also busy trying to do other things. For example, if I'm helping people here, I'm not working on packages for Debian.... there's an opportunity cost to the entire community in answer your question. |
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| 01:15.10 | Theoden | themill: One more question - Since I'm looking to upgrade my wheezy system to Jessie, do you recommend doing so from Gnome? or exiting X altogether and doing it from the console? |
| 01:15.12 | atomdream | i think this is going way offtopic |
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| 01:15.31 | themill | Theoden: gdm is likely to get restarted as part of the upgrade process |
| 01:15.56 | Theoden | themill: So best to do it out of X. |
| 01:16.04 | themill | yes |
| 01:16.18 | Theoden | themill: Thank you. Appreciate it. :) |
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| 01:17.00 | atomdream | abrotman, sorry to harm your feelings , not intended to.Ty for help. Got my own reasons to act like i do. |
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| 01:19.29 | abrotman | you didnt hurt my feelings |
| 01:19.50 | abrotman | I'm just trying to point out that being a lazy PITA will get you banned her also |
| 01:20.07 | dvs | herre? |
| 01:20.22 | atomdream | getting out of time and being lazy not the same things |
| 01:20.35 | atomdream | i told i got my own reasons |
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| 02:08.27 | darkapp | is the debian forewall enabled by default? |
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| 02:10.24 | AliceLiddell | I can't do it...I have to switch back to windows until they make gnu / linux better for linux ;_; if only there was a way |
| 02:10.47 | id10t | a way to do what? |
| 02:11.11 | AliceLiddell | I wanted to help contribute...we need a way to play every windows game on gnu /linux |
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| 02:11.18 | AliceLiddell | there's gotta be a way |
| 02:11.20 | AliceLiddell | :) |
| 02:11.47 | id10t | sure... buy a sizeable block of voting shares in each publishing company... |
| 02:11.53 | id10t | and get a seat on the board |
| 02:12.02 | AliceLiddell | Also for devs to make games for linux |
| 02:12.11 | id10t | but remember... is it Freedom if you *force* someone to develop for your platform? |
| 02:12.14 | AliceLiddell | also, so like windows isn't left out |
| 02:12.37 | AliceLiddell | so everyone has it no matter what os |
| 02:12.47 | AliceLiddell | T.T its impossible |
| 02:12.52 | id10t | well, a good publisher would do that to maximize potential profit |
| 02:13.07 | AliceLiddell | I've planned on it but I'm not a publisher |
| 02:13.18 | id10t | but then, some/many will insist on copy protection, and Stallman and his ilk would still complain |
| 02:13.20 | AliceLiddell | I hardly know programming |
| 02:13.42 | id10t | i like the Freedom that gnu gives me, mostly because i get quality software at no cost |
| 02:14.08 | AliceLiddell | Idk if there was a library like opengl but more widely used and devs wanted to use it |
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| 02:14.18 | id10t | there are |
| 02:14.27 | id10t | sdl, opengl, others |
| 02:14.34 | id10t | esp dx |
| 02:14.42 | AliceLiddell | Dx is proprietary though |
| 02:14.50 | AliceLiddell | Isn't it mainly for .net devs |
| 02:14.52 | AliceLiddell | ? |
| 02:15.06 | id10t | but... as long as the "everything must be Free" rabid fans go on, it won't happen. unless the DoJ gets really involved |
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| 02:15.17 | id10t | directx existed long before .net |
| 02:15.20 | abrotman | anyone actually need help with Debian? |
| 02:16.00 | AliceLiddell | idk if I should go to #debian-offtopic but I'm considering going back to m$ for games |
| 02:16.12 | id10t | but if you are looking to contribute, you can always write howtos, review and test proceedures in howtos, contribute bandwidth by hosting a mirror, etc. |
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| 02:16.44 | id10t | AliceLiddell: it is about Freedom. You can freely choose to do that... |
| 02:16.53 | AliceLiddell | If opengl was more popular would it make it easier |
| 02:17.04 | abrotman | AliceLiddell: so this has nothing to do with Debian, take it elsewhere |
| 02:17.09 | id10t | quake3 was first done for linux because it was easier |
| 02:17.12 | themill | perhaps #defocus? |
| 02:17.16 | abrotman | perhaps query |
| 02:17.29 | AliceLiddell | >.> I've got adhd so it was relevant but I forgot where I was going with this |
| 02:18.00 | abrotman | adhd is not an excuse |
| 02:18.07 | AliceLiddell | I was looking for ways to contribute so more gamers switch to gnu/linux |
| 02:18.24 | id10t | but if you are looking to contribute, you can always write howtos, review and test proceedures in howtos, contribute bandwidth by hosting a mirror, etc. |
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| 02:18.33 | abrotman | AliceLiddell: this isn't the channel for that |
| 02:19.15 | AliceLiddell | I was wondering how to keep using debian I like it |
| 02:19.19 | AliceLiddell | I can't decide what os to use |
| 02:19.30 | abrotman | then use the one that has the features you want |
| 02:19.34 | abrotman | apparently that's not Debian |
| 02:19.39 | abrotman | or Linux in general |
| 02:19.55 | AliceLiddell | its secure though |
| 02:19.56 | abrotman | take the conversation somewhere else, thank you |
| 02:20.01 | AliceLiddell | Nvm rude |
| 02:20.17 | AliceLiddell | fine |
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| 02:20.26 | id10t | or, if it is like my swiss army knife (i have pliers but no corkscrew, which i occasionally miss having) get a second machine for gaming or dual boot... no such thing as "only one tool to do all jobs" |
| 02:20.27 | abrotman | nvm, offtopic |
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| 02:22.14 | AliceLiddell | I remember what I was gonna ask.. |
| 02:22.34 | AliceLiddell | Is it possible to underclock nvidia laptop gpus in debian? |
| 02:23.11 | abrotman | sounds like a question for #nvidia |
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| 02:24.02 | AliceLiddell | sounds like its easy Ill get it |
| 02:24.06 | AliceLiddell | Ty :) |
| 02:24.51 | AliceLiddell | I'm in a hurry I don't mean to snap ty again pz |
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| 02:37.25 | james41382 | When you look at a partition table with say gparted and there is a gap of several megabytes between primary partitions this is because there needs to be space or boot records? |
| 02:37.35 | james41382 | for* |
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| 02:41.05 | dvs | james41382: I sometimes see a few megabytes between partitions. |
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| 02:42.05 | james41382 | dvs: Do you know why? I was just reading through the gparted manual and I saw this -> Use None only if you have an in-depth knowledge of disk structure, partition tables, and boot records. This setting places partition boundaries relative to the end of any immediately preceding partition on the disk device. This setting is not guaranteed to reserve or respect space required for boot records. |
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| 02:43.42 | dvs | james41382: Im not sure why. I always thought it was a cylinder boundary thing. |
| 02:44.01 | james41382 | dvs: Hmm... okay. Thanks. |
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| 03:00.48 | alucardpotato | hi guys, using ubuntu 13.04 and cinnamon, have this issue where when I log in, everything is black, except for the panels. but if i turn on file explorer and close it, it works normally |
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| 03:01.42 | ctmjr | alucardpotato: this debian support you should ask in #ubuntu |
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| 03:06.36 | carpenoctem | Ok guys, I was attempting to install full disk encryption to an external hdd that I wanted to be able to boot from on other machines, accidentally installed grub on sda (laptop hdd). How can I install grub and make it bootable? |
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| 03:12.56 | dvs | uh oh |
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| 03:43.37 | iam4722202468 | hello |
| 03:44.28 | iam4722202468 | which one should i get, ubuntu or debian |
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| 03:44.55 | themill | you're in #debian |
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| 03:45.00 | konsumer | lasher666 you can ask your question here |
| 03:45.21 | iam4722202468 | themill, i know |
| 03:46.04 | hesco | is there some gui tool in the debian gnome desktop I can use to configure my monitors? |
| 03:46.31 | gnuweb | if you search for Displays it comes up |
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| 03:47.28 | hesco | thaks, looking for that now gnuweb |
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| 03:48.17 | darkapp | is the debian forewall enabled by default? |
| 03:48.25 | darkapp | firewall |
| 03:48.28 | darkapp | ** |
| 03:49.13 | themill | darkapp: iptables is in your kernel but unless you have configured it or installed a package to do so, it's not configured |
| 03:49.36 | verysoftoiletppr | does debian come with prey pre-installeds? |
| 03:49.50 | darkapp | would u care to point me at a guide that can help? |
| 03:50.21 | Wyzard | verysoftoiletppr: No, but there's a package available for you to install |
| 03:51.07 | verysoftoiletppr | Wyzard hmmm… there is this line in my root cronttab: |
| 03:51.07 | verysoftoiletppr | */20 * * * * /usr/share/prey/prey.sh > /var/log/prey.log 2>&1 |
| 03:51.23 | darkapp | i know in mint there was a ufw enable command |
| 03:51.33 | darkapp | so basically want to do that |
| 03:51.57 | verysoftoiletppr | Wyzard backdoor? |
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| 03:52.06 | themill | dpkg: tell darkapp about installit |
| 03:52.09 | Wyzard | verysoftoiletppr: or maybe you installed it at some point and forgot about it |
| 03:52.12 | Wyzard | verysoftoiletppr: dpkg -s prey |
| 03:52.20 | verysoftoiletppr | Wyzard I didn't install it |
| 03:52.27 | verysoftoiletppr | I've found this by accident |
| 03:52.39 | verysoftoiletppr | the installation is new |
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| 03:52.46 | verysoftoiletppr | from an image I got on the webz |
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| 03:52.51 | darkapp | themill: i know about apt-get |
| 03:53.26 | verysoftoiletppr | dpkg-query: package 'prey' is not installed and no information is available |
| 03:53.40 | Wyzard | verysoftoiletppr: If you want to install Debian, you should use the official install media... if you're installing from some third-party install media that you "got on the webz", it could very well be backdoored |
| 03:54.02 | verysoftoiletppr | Wyzard that is what I'm trying to figure out |
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| 04:12.05 | thowe | In chapter 5 of the manual for configuring network interfaces: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_network_interface_with_the_static_ip |
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| 04:12.41 | thowe | The example shows dns-domain example.com and dns-nameservers 192.168.11.1... But these options are not in the man page. Where are these documented? |
| 04:14.56 | verysoftoiletppr | hi |
| 04:15.03 | verysoftoiletppr | echo 0 > /sys/class/leds/blue\:ph21\:led2/brightness |
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| 04:15.36 | verysoftoiletppr | I'm supposed to be able to do this to control the leds in my cubieboard |
| 04:15.55 | verysoftoiletppr | however I have no /sys/class/leds in my device |
| 04:16.01 | verysoftoiletppr | any idea why? |
| 04:16.53 | thowe | Anyone run kerbal space program on Debian? |
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| 04:17.23 | themill | thowe: those options are for resolvconf(8) |
| 04:17.31 | Rusty1 | !anyone |
| 04:17.32 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 04:17.55 | thowe | Rusty1, Sorry... |
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| 04:18.54 | thowe | I would really like to get and play Kerbal SPace Program. This is 90% of the reason I started playing with Linux/Debian. I'm curious what sort of video hardware I should get. |
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| 04:20.23 | SirLagz | thowe: maybe the system requirements of Kerbal Space Program would help. |
| 04:20.53 | thowe | yeah, I'm trying to find them now... I should have looked before. |
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| 04:22.06 | thowe | 512MB Video Card, Shader Model 3.0 .... A Debian based Linux distro |
| 04:22.11 | stree | a model number help? |
| 04:22.33 | rhizome | hi, i'm looking for either a way to install the latest rhythmbox, or for suggestions for a decent music player alternative |
| 04:22.37 | SirLagz | well that's pretty much any non-budget video card in the last few years |
| 04:23.55 | thowe | SirLagz, I'm curious what people have gotten that gave them few troubles. I've never purchased game hardware in my life. |
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| 04:24.34 | thowe | a certain ati or nvidia line? |
| 04:24.38 | SirLagz | I've always stuck with Nvidia cards as their drivers are better. |
| 04:24.53 | SirLagz | I'm still using a Geforce 9600GT. |
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| 04:27.18 | hesco | well I found gnome-display-settings which recognized the make and model and permitted me to set the resolution for my new monitors using a gui tool, but it did not recognize that I have two monitors connected, nor give me a way to let them do anything but mirror one-another's display. I had heard there was a debian tool which would make this easy, but have been unable to find anything useful using apt-cache search. Can anyone here point |
| 04:28.28 | SirLagz | hesco: what video card ? |
| 04:29.08 | hesco | let me see, riught back with you SirLagz |
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| 04:30.41 | hesco | SirLagz: if this helps, lspci tells me: |
| 04:30.41 | hesco | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) |
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| 04:31.56 | SirLagz | hesco: google gave me this - https://01.org/linuxgraphics/documentation/how-set-dual-head-intel-graphics-randr-1.2 <-- have you tried that ? |
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| 04:35.11 | hesco | ok, will take a look at that, have been searching for a gui tool to handle this. I spend forty to sixty hours a week working at a cli and was hoping to avoid having to learn a tool I'd only use once. |
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| 04:36.18 | hesco | xrandr -q only recognizes one screen |
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| 04:50.28 | thowe | hm. I just noticed there's no wheel group. What's the equiv? |
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| 04:51.17 | adh0c | Is anyone here familiar with /etc/adjtime ? |
| 04:51.44 | adh0c | I have a box that's running five minutes ahead due to the recent migration of our NTP server, and the user wants to adjust the skew slowly as to not interrupt other software they have running there. |
| 04:52.11 | adh0c | As I understand /etc/adjtime is useful for this, but I'm not finding clear documentation on its format at the moment. |
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| 04:53.50 | hesco | Well after spening some time with xrandr, grandr, neither tool seems to recognize the second monitor which is hooked up. |
| 04:54.08 | k_sze[work] | I just bumped into a problem with sudo (I think the machine is upgraded from squeeze to wheezy) |
| 04:54.25 | k_sze[work] | something about ldconfig and start-stop-daemon not found in PATH |
| 04:54.30 | k_sze[work] | Is this the correct solution? http://blog.coffeebeans.at/?p=380 |
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| 05:51.21 | nye17 | hey folks, just managed to make the fingerprint reader work under debian (using fprintd, enrolled and verified), but I'm having problems setting "su" to use the fingerprint reader for auth. I doodled with the /etc/pam.d/su file but it still asks me for password all the time.. |
| 05:53.43 | Myrtti | I think I might have gotten the command, rebooting.... |
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| 05:58.15 | fenhir | fsck on boot is triggered in the fstab |
| 05:58.27 | fenhir | iirc the last nomber |
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| 05:59.58 | shal3r | When i do a system update which includes new version of MySQL, Debian stops MySQL until update is finished and turns it back at the end. Is there a way to minimize that downtime? |
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| 06:00.31 | shal3r | I just can't afford ~10 minutes MySQL downtime while Debian updates non-related packages |
| 06:01.28 | fenhir | hold back mysql-package... do update of other packager... hold of mysql out... mysql-update |
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| 06:07.03 | themill | dpkg: tell shal3r about policy-rc.d |
| 06:07.39 | shal3r | themill, thank you very much |
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| 06:09.29 | themill | shal3r: so you could tell use that to prevent the maintainer scripts starting and stopping mysql. I don't know whether mysql would be particularly happy about that though. You might be better of using aptitude's interactive resolver to prevent mysql upgrades in the first apt run and then do a second |
| 06:09.57 | k_sze[work] | errr, I thought visudo is vim-based |
| 06:10.02 | k_sze[work] | now I don't know how to save and exit. |
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| 06:18.06 | themill | k_sze[work]: visudo uses either the system-selected editor (/usr/bin/editor) or the user-selected editor ($EDITOR or $VISUAL). You've probably got nano there. ^X to exit; it will prompt to save |
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| 06:18.24 | k_sze[work] | It was actually joe |
| 06:18.45 | k_sze[work] | I got it. I even changed the default to vim |
| 06:18.49 | themill | :) |
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| 06:56.00 | Samul | hi all |
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| 06:56.53 | Samul | yesterday, I installed debian 7. now I'm seeing that when I power on my pc, insted of graphic login shell, it asks my login via tty |
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| 06:57.07 | Samul | it's strange, also because I installed graphical shell (gnome3) |
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| 06:57.18 | Samul | how can I set graphical login as defaul? |
| 06:57.20 | Samul | *default |
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| 07:01.35 | musca | Samul: A display manager provides a graphical login. Is gdm3 installed? |
| 07:01.51 | Samul | I think yes |
| 07:01.56 | mentor | Samul: It should still popup to the display manager by default, which makes me think the DM is having issues starting |
| 07:01.58 | Samul | where can I see this? /home ? |
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| 07:02.13 | Samul | hum |
| 07:02.22 | Samul | in effect |
| 07:02.27 | Samul | the first reboot was so |
| 07:02.27 | mentor | Samul: apt would be the place to look to see what packages are installed |
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| 07:02.42 | Samul | what is the command? |
| 07:02.45 | musca | dpkg -l | grep gdm |
| 07:02.45 | dpkg | ii | grep gdm 2.5-13 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 07:02.58 | mentor | dpkg: botsnack |
| 07:02.58 | dpkg | mentor: aw, gee |
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| 07:03.13 | mentor | dpkg -l gdm\* might be easier |
| 07:03.13 | dpkg | No packages found matching gdm\* might be easier |
| 07:03.24 | Samul | Wat. |
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| 07:03.40 | mentor | Samul: Command line? |
| 07:03.42 | Samul | dpkg -l | grep gdm this? |
| 07:03.42 | dpkg | ii | grep gdm this 2.9-14.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 07:03.49 | stree | perversities ii by john reibetanz |
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| 07:04.07 | Samul | do I write it as root or normal user? |
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| 07:04.41 | mentor | Samul: Normal user will suffice |
| 07:04.45 | Samul | OK |
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| 07:05.32 | Samul | samul@SamsungRC530:~$ dpkg -l | grep gdm rc gdm3 3.4.1-8 amd64 Next generation GNOME Display Manager samul@SamsungRC530:~$ |
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| 07:05.44 | Samul | sorry for pasting there |
| 07:05.46 | Samul | *here |
| 07:05.47 | mentor | Samul: rc |
| 07:06.05 | Samul | ? |
| 07:06.05 | mentor | Samul: You can see what that means in the header dpkg prints out |
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| 07:06.24 | Samul | I don't understand what it means |
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| 07:06.41 | mentor | Which part of the header is proving the problem? |
| 07:06.47 | Samul | ohh |
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| 07:06.54 | Samul | and how can I fix this? |
| 07:07.04 | mentor | Install gdm3? |
| 07:07.14 | Samul | will it do the trick? |
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| 07:07.30 | Samul | simply install it? |
| 07:07.36 | Samul | great! |
| 07:07.46 | Samul | is it apt-get install gdm3 as root? |
| 07:07.49 | mentor | Samul: Well, I can't guarantee anything, but that does seem to be the problem at this point |
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| 07:08.03 | mentor | Samul: Yep; I'd recommend aptitude though |
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| 07:08.15 | Samul | what the command? |
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| 07:08.30 | mentor | aptitude |
| 07:08.42 | Samul | simply instead of apt-get? |
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| 07:09.26 | Samul | aptitude install gmd3 ? |
| 07:09.34 | Samul | sorry but I never used aptitude |
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| 07:10.16 | Shadur | Samul: Pretty much, except you probably want gdm3 |
| 07:10.23 | mentor | It has a text UI mode, but you can also check out the manual page with "man aptitude" or get usage information from aptitude itself with "aptitude --help" |
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| 07:10.35 | Samul | OK thanks |
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| 07:11.13 | Samul | then it is aptitude install gdm3 ? |
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| 07:11.47 | Samul | OK I'm going to try |
| 07:11.50 | Samul | :) |
| 07:11.53 | mentor | That's the spirit |
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| 07:12.02 | Samul | lol |
| 07:12.12 | Samul | [09:11] == KhashayaR [eggdrop@khashayar.ae] has joined #debian [09:11] == KhashayaR [eggdrop@khashayar.ae] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] |
| 07:12.14 | Samul | wat. |
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| 07:12.37 | Samul | waat |
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| 07:12.58 | musca | stree also please |
| 07:12.59 | Samul | oh yeah |
| 07:13.05 | xmj | Hi |
| 07:13.18 | Samul | hi |
| 07:13.36 | xmj | I've used debian 10 years ago . . . now I need to put it in a VM for Google Hangouts. |
| 07:13.54 | xmj | Which CD image do I want for VirtualBox ... rusty, stale... ahem stable or testing? |
| 07:14.08 | Samul | debian 7 stable |
| 07:14.29 | Rydekull | always start with stable |
| 07:14.36 | mentor | xmj: That depends on your software requirements? |
| 07:15.05 | xmj | mentor: It needs to run google Hangouts. |
| 07:15.19 | Samul | mentor: I installed gdm3. do I reboot now? |
| 07:15.20 | xmj | I use FreeBSD -CURRENT for everything else. |
| 07:15.21 | themill | The chances of the testing installer working on any given day is ____. |
| 07:15.33 | mentor | xmj: I have no idea what that means |
| 07:15.44 | mentor | Samul: It should have started it already |
| 07:15.57 | mentor | Samul: You don't need to reboot for this sort of thing. |
| 07:16.04 | mentor | Samul: It'll be on VT 7 probably |
| 07:16.11 | Samul | but I'd like to see if it works |
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| 07:16.24 | mentor | Samul: Change to VT 7 |
| 07:16.28 | xmj | mentor: I need to run 1. A Browser (Chromium) 2. Google's Hangout Plugin 3. Make it work with webcam and sound. |
| 07:16.28 | Samul | OK |
| 07:16.33 | xmj | Fairly simple if you ask me. |
| 07:16.37 | Samul | alt + ctrl + f7? |
| 07:16.41 | Samul | it doesn't work |
| 07:16.51 | mentor | Samul: Try VT 8 |
| 07:16.55 | Samul | ? |
| 07:16.57 | xmj | Samul: do I want 7.0.0 or 7.1.0? |
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| 07:17.09 | Samul | xmj: try 7.1.0 |
| 07:17.18 | Samul | mentor: what is vt 8? |
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| 07:17.25 | mentor | xmj: Those things would not immediately suggest to me that you need software not in stable |
| 07:17.26 | Samul | oh |
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| 07:17.31 | Samul | it doesn't work |
| 07:17.47 | xmj | mentor: is stable 7.0.0 ? |
| 07:17.49 | Samul | but |
| 07:17.56 | Samul | when I've back to tty6 |
| 07:17.58 | musca | xmj: 7.1.0 is a point release of stable |
| 07:18.01 | Samul | it crashed |
| 07:18.04 | mentor | Samul: When you installed it, did it say it was starting gdm3? |
| 07:18.05 | themill | mentor: why? |
| 07:18.05 | Samul | and now tty7 works |
| 07:18.13 | Samul | mentor: yep |
| 07:18.42 | mentor | themill: Because. (Why what?) |
| 07:18.58 | Samul | [ ok ] Scheduling reload of GNOME Display Manager configuration: gdm3. |
| 07:19.02 | Samul | ^ ? |
| 07:19.18 | mentor | Samul: Try restarting it totally |
| 07:19.26 | Samul | OK |
| 07:19.30 | themill | mentor: oh. double negative... |
| 07:19.34 | Samul | wait a moment and I'll restart |
| 07:19.42 | mentor | Samul: /etc/init.d/gdm3 restart |
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| 07:20.02 | mentor | themill: aha |
| 07:20.24 | Samul | oh |
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| 07:22.37 | xmj | 7.x being stable, 8.x being testing and 9.x being unstable? |
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| 07:23.13 | musca | unstable is never released and has no version nunmber. |
| 07:23.14 | Samul | mentor: I restarted it |
| 07:23.25 | Samul | and it asked me graphical login |
| 07:23.33 | Samul | now will it work at power on? |
| 07:23.56 | mentor | Samul: Restarting your computer will now just bring you to this same state, so yes |
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| 07:24.06 | Samul | \ò/ |
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| 07:24.15 | Samul | thank you very very very very very much! :D |
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| 07:26.00 | bullgard4 | [wheezy] /run/network/ifstate: "lo=lo". What does this mean? |
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| 07:26.42 | mentor | bullgard4: It's for the loopback interface |
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| 07:26.53 | bullgard4 | I see. |
| 07:27.19 | xmj | one last question |
| 07:27.24 | xmj | does debian 7.1 come with systemd? |
| 07:27.58 | mentor | xmj: You can search the available packages |
| 07:28.09 | xmj | mentor: I mean by default. |
| 07:28.16 | musca | ,v systemd |
| 07:28.17 | judd | Package: systemd on i386 -- wheezy: 44-11; jessie: 44-12; sid: 44-12; experimental: 204-2 |
| 07:28.20 | Samul | a little thing, how can I place notify bar in top instead of bottom of screen? |
| 07:28.27 | mentor | xmj: What do you mean "by default" |
| 07:28.28 | Shadur | xmj: No, but installing it is a matter of apt-get install systemd |
| 07:28.32 | Samul | and hold it also if there is a process in focus? |
| 07:28.37 | mentor | xmj: All the packages available are available by default |
| 07:28.40 | ffog | how do i switch virtual consoles (alt+f2 etc) if i've got something framebuffer taking over the window like links2 -g |
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| 07:28.54 | bullgard4 | mentor: I know that "lo" refers to the loopback interface. But knowing this does not answer my question yet. |
| 07:29.00 | xmj | Shadur: thanks, that's good news |
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| 07:29.02 | musca | xmj: systemd was not a release goal in wheezy, it's in unmature state |
| 07:29.18 | Shadur | mentor: I think what he means is that when you install a new debian installation, it'll install sysvinit as its init handler. |
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| 07:29.45 | mentor | systemd is not used by default on any Debian release |
| 07:29.51 | Shadur | I've been meaning to poke at systemd on my home comp, but I'm not going to put it on any of the production systems for a long time. |
| 07:30.32 | xmj | Shadur: exactly. |
| 07:30.39 | xmj | Shadur: I do not desire any systemd exposure. |
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| 07:31.13 | xmj | (nor do I want to start yet another futile flamewar about that.) |
| 07:31.17 | xmj | Thanks for all the help :-) |
| 07:31.32 | Samul | a little thing, how can I place notify bar in top instead of bottom of screeen and keep it also if there is a process in focus? |
| 07:32.00 | joltcan | ffog: ctrl+alt+fN |
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| 07:33.09 | bullgard4 | Samul: This depends on your Desktop. Please specify the desktop that you are using. |
| 07:33.25 | Samul | gnome3 |
| 07:34.13 | bullgard4 | Samul: I do not know GNOME 3 wel and cannot answer your question. |
| 07:34.17 | bullgard4 | +l |
| 07:34.34 | Samul | OK thanks anyway |
| 07:34.36 | ffog | joltcan: ty :) |
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| 07:54.03 | Samul | I tried to open a .deb package but it says there is not an application to open it. What should I do to run it? |
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| 07:54.37 | themill | Samul: you should install packages using aptitude install packagename |
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| 07:54.57 | Samul | but I don't know the package name |
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| 07:55.30 | Samul | so how can I run a .deb? |
| 07:55.37 | bhuddah | Samul: dpkg |
| 07:55.42 | Samul | ? |
| 07:55.47 | themill | Samul: apt-cache search something |
| 07:55.54 | Samul | huh? |
| 07:56.03 | bhuddah | Samul: this is the command... dpkg -i packagename.deb for installation |
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| 07:56.08 | musca | !APT |
| 07:56.08 | dpkg | Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) is a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. There is no apt program per se; APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude. See also <aptitude> <apt-get>, <apt-cache>, <apt myths>. |
| 07:56.10 | Samul | ooohh |
| 07:56.11 | Samul | thanks |
| 07:56.14 | bhuddah | !dpkg |
| 07:56.15 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dpkg is the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 07:56.16 | themill | Samul, bhuddah: don't do that... |
| 07:56.22 | Samul | why? |
| 07:56.29 | themill | Samul: use apt. |
| 07:56.36 | Samul | I already said it |
| 07:56.44 | Samul | I don't know package's name |
| 07:56.56 | Samul | I'm trying to install KeePass |
| 07:56.58 | themill | Samul: so search for it. |
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| 07:57.09 | bhuddah | i'm not holding back installation because it's a bad decission or something ^^ |
| 07:57.13 | Samul | May I find it in Debian's site? |
| 07:57.25 | bhuddah | but yes, themill is about right. dpkg is normally not to be used manually |
| 07:57.33 | themill | Samul: "apt-cache search KeePass"? |
| 07:57.36 | bhuddah | s/installation/information/ |
| 07:57.42 | Samul | OK I'll try |
| 07:57.51 | bhuddah | or aptitude search keepass |
| 07:58.08 | bhuddah | i don't think it is there |
| 07:58.09 | Samul | found |
| 07:58.12 | Samul | Thanks! |
| 07:58.14 | bhuddah | really? :) |
| 07:58.20 | Samul | yeah |
| 07:58.25 | Samul | it was keepass2 |
| 07:58.30 | Samul | simply apt-get install keepass2 |
| 07:58.48 | bhuddah | well. maybe you had it installed allready |
| 07:58.54 | themill | keepassx and keepass2 are two different projects |
| 07:59.00 | Samul | I know |
| 07:59.07 | Samul | but I tried apt-get install keepass |
| 07:59.13 | Samul | it's why it didn't work |
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| 07:59.31 | themill | apt-cache search would have showed you that's not the correct name |
| 07:59.39 | bhuddah | yeah.. okay. /me is dumb idiot. cant type "kee" must always type "key" ... -. |
| 07:59.45 | Samul | themill: yeah |
| 07:59.49 | Samul | and it found similar names |
| 07:59.54 | Samul | such as keepass2 :D |
| 08:00.39 | musca | keepass2 depends on mono ... |
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| 08:01.10 | Samul | ? |
| 08:01.11 | musca | many users stay with keepassx, the first version. |
| 08:01.40 | Samul | it's strange, keepass searches kdbx files |
| 08:01.52 | Samul | I have a kdb only |
| 08:01.57 | Samul | how do I open it? |
| 08:02.18 | musca | see --> many users stay with keepassx, the first version. |
| 08:02.33 | Samul | so I have to install keepassz |
| 08:02.36 | Samul | *keepassx |
| 08:02.38 | Samul | true? |
| 08:03.13 | musca | i think so, it doesn't hurt. |
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| 08:03.33 | Samul | I'm installing keepassx |
| 08:03.36 | Samul | I hope it will work |
| 08:03.51 | Samul | otherwise, I'll have to open it with my windows xp |
| 08:03.59 | Samul | save passwords, and convert tu kdbx |
| 08:04.01 | Samul | ^^" |
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| 08:07.18 | Samul | 4% [2 keepassx 47,0 kB/1115 kB 4%] it's there from 3 minutes |
| 08:07.27 | Samul | is there a problem? |
| 08:07.56 | Samul | oh no it works now |
| 08:08.02 | stree | and works with both reverts? |
| 08:08.33 | Samul | yep |
| 08:08.38 | Samul | keepassx is the solution :D |
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| 08:08.57 | musca | themill: there is the ugly bot! |
| 08:09.04 | Samul | I'm going to quit |
| 08:09.08 | Samul | thanks for the support |
| 08:09.12 | Samul | :D |
| 08:09.15 | Samul | bye all! |
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| 08:11.39 | musca | thx |
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| 08:17.23 | zooz | morning folks |
| 08:17.44 | zooz | how can I install Build-Depends when building a package with debuild? |
| 08:18.16 | zooz | Build-Depends dependencies that is |
| 08:18.43 | zooz | I use pbuilder normally, but in this case pbuilder does not suite my needs |
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| 08:19.26 | BarthezZ | Hmmm, am I being a moron or did somebody messed up the dependencies for nmap in wheezy? adding x11-commong, imagemagick, etc.? :X |
| 08:19.58 | aryo_adhi | Hi there |
| 08:20.17 | aryo_adhi | Can I install Debian without bootloader? |
| 08:20.41 | jmd | Yes. |
| 08:20.45 | themill | zooz: either using mk-build-deps or using apt-get build-dep |
| 08:20.50 | jmd | (at least, in general you can) |
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| 08:21.49 | aryo_adhi | @jmd: How? I want to boot my Debian using another distro's GRUB |
| 08:22.01 | aryo_adhi | Similar as dual-booting ;) |
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| 08:22.32 | jmd | ?? I thought you said you didn't want to use a bootloader. |
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| 08:23.18 | aryo_adhi | Nah, but I didn't want to overwrite my Windows MBR |
| 08:23.27 | aryo_adhi | Since I have 4 OS's in my PC |
| 08:23.44 | aryo_adhi | So, Windows chainloads to GRUB... |
| 08:24.07 | aryo_adhi | and I wanted 'that' GRUB to load Debian ;) |
| 08:24.39 | bhuddah | aryo_adhi: just point it to the right initrd and partition as always. |
| 08:24.45 | jmd | So configure that grub to load your debian partition |
| 08:24.46 | bhuddah | and kernel of course. |
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| 08:26.54 | mumpitzel | aryo_adhi: you don't have to install grub |
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| 08:27.33 | mumpitzel | therefore debian won't overwrite anything. but then it's your own responsibility to make debian boot somehow. it won't work automatically for new kernels as normally it would |
| 08:28.49 | aryo_adhi | OK ;) \\ But, my bootloader scheme is similar like this: |
| 08:28.52 | aryo_adhi | http://pastebin.com/8nksjiy3 |
| 08:29.53 | mumpitzel | aryo_adhi: and the question is? (btw this scheme is awfully bad) |
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| 08:30.38 | aryo_adhi | I want to install Debian (along with 4 other OS's in my PC) |
| 08:30.46 | aryo_adhi | Not so many, right? |
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| 08:34.48 | aryo_adhi | Is there any commandline to run Debian installer, and forces it to not install any bootloader? |
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| 08:37.48 | Rovanion | I'm trying to set the pwm value for the fan in my thinkpad manually. In order to do so I must set /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/device/pwm1_enable to 1. But even though the file is -rw-r--r-- sudo echo 1 > /path/again gives me an access denied message. |
| 08:38.33 | Iridos | aryo_adhi, dunno... sounds like me as if you could spend more time booting between systems than running any of them |
| 08:38.47 | Iridos | as to "not so many" |
| 08:38.56 | mumpitzel | Rovanion: sudo and echo don't work together well |
| 08:39.09 | Rovanion | mumpitzel: How come? |
| 08:39.12 | mumpitzel | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/84882/sudo-echo-something-etc-privilegedfile-doesnt-work-is-there-an-alterna |
| 08:39.28 | Iridos | Rovanion, because of how the shell works... |
| 08:39.48 | Iridos | Rovanion, something like sudo bash -c ' echo 1 > /path/again' would work |
| 08:39.49 | Rovanion | Iridos: Is it because echo is a builtin of bash? |
| 08:40.17 | aryo_adhi | @Irdios: Nah, since my PC can't run Virtualbox proprerly, and I have many space on my HDD ;) |
| 08:40.47 | Rovanion | Thanks both of you Iridos and mumpitzel |
| 08:40.48 | Iridos | Rovanion, there's /bin/echo and probably that's used... but ">" is a bash builtin thing, too |
| 08:41.27 | Rovanion | Iridos: Are there more commands which don't work with sudo? |
| 08:42.13 | Iridos | the command works, it just doesn't work the way you think :) |
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| 08:43.44 | Rovanion | How does it work? |
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| 08:45.50 | aryo_adhi | Double-post, @Iridos: Nah, since my PC can't run Virtualbox proprerly, and I have many space on my HDD ;) |
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| 08:46.00 | Iridos | Rovanion, it's all about what command gets read by what program in what order. I think a good document on the general topic is this: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashParser what you have to think about is, what the actual command is, that gets the root privileges from sudo and what is already handled before/outside this program |
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| 08:46.55 | zooz | themill, thanks, that worked |
| 08:47.18 | Rovanion | Iridos: Interesting |
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| 08:47.55 | Iridos | Rovanion, so... running/executing sudo is 7, doing the redirection is 4 |
| 08:49.36 | aryo_adhi | Maybe I can skip GRUB installation... |
| 08:49.43 | aryo_adhi | I'm off! ;) |
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| 08:51.49 | neo1691 | Hello Everyone!! Accomplished a big task of using the iso files for installing packages from apt-get without burning them. Thanks to this great community |
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| 08:52.38 | neo1691 | Now I just want to know how can I automount them at startup? I have added the respective entry in fstab! but mount -a isn't working |
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| 08:54.11 | AllInOne | Welcome to TV OnLine Http://AllINONE.NIX.VN |
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| 08:54.39 | Rovanion | Now when I set /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/device/pwm1_enable to 1 it gets set, the fan slows down, and then quickly back up as /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon1/device/pwm1_enable is set back to 2 by something other. I don't have thinkfan or fancontrol or anything that I see in htop which seems fan related. Any ideas? |
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| 08:57.26 | Rovanion | Could upowerd have something to do with it? |
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| 08:59.44 | Rovanion | Is there a way to reload modprobe.d without rebooting? |
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| 09:15.59 | Iridos | neo1... |
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| 09:23.14 | Iridos | Rovanion, what makes you think they need to be reloaded? |
| 09:23.38 | Rovanion | Iridos: Because I added a line in there for thinkfan to start working. |
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| 09:24.52 | Rovanion | Iridos: So I removed the line and wondered if I had to reboot for it to take effect |
| 09:26.22 | Iridos | those are only triggered when you try to use/access/plug in the device or whatever... but then it's parding modprobe.d |
| 09:26.34 | Iridos | parsing* |
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| 09:30.03 | xmj | Hi again |
| 09:30.44 | xmj | Will the xfce-CD-1 contain all files needed to install debian base with Xorg, XFCE etc? |
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| 09:33.52 | mumpitzel | xmj: yes |
| 09:34.00 | xmj | \o/ |
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| 09:41.56 | musca | xmj: at least you have fun :) |
| 09:42.49 | xmj | I don't, actually. If virtualbox wasn't such a PIT I'd be done with the netinstall and a few apt-gets :/ |
| 09:45.19 | Arafangion | xmj: Eh? |
| 09:45.40 | xmj | Pain in the Ass, even |
| 09:45.51 | musca | depends on the host, i guess. |
| 09:45.58 | musca | ducks |
| 09:46.16 | Arafangion | That reminds me. I plan to try this VM thing at home. At work I use Parallels, but I'm not sure how Qemu and VirtualBox compares, or the other 'free' products. |
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| 09:49.44 | bhuddah | Arafangion: virtualbox feels just like a professional solution ;) |
| 09:50.12 | Arafangion | bhuddah: I dunno, I always got very annoyed when I had to deal with USB devices. They work, but not well. |
| 09:50.15 | mumpitzel | Arafangion: depends what you want to do |
| 09:50.27 | mumpitzel | they will work better than in qemu afaik |
| 09:50.27 | Arafangion | But I don't plan to use usb devices at home. |
| 09:50.38 | Arafangion | mumpitzel: Hmm. |
| 09:50.57 | Arafangion | mumpitzel: On linux, they are effectively the same, under the hood, I guess? |
| 09:51.02 | Arafangion | (Using KVM and all that) |
| 09:51.21 | musca | yes, but as usual you can make more use of your freedom with qemu+kvm |
| 09:51.28 | mumpitzel | kvm and vbox? no. totally different |
| 09:51.47 | mumpitzel | musca: how well does usb passthrough work with kvm? |
| 09:51.53 | Arafangion | So vbox would require proprietary kernel modules? |
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| 09:52.08 | mumpitzel | no. only for the usb2.0 passthrough. the rest is GPL |
| 09:52.15 | Arafangion | Ah, nice. |
| 09:52.39 | musca | mumpitzel: if you read the source, you will find a nice *.txt explaining it. |
| 09:52.40 | mumpitzel | usb1.1 devices will work with GPL software. USB 2.0 don't. and not all USB2.0 stuff works anyways |
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| 09:53.27 | musca | usb2 does since qemu 1.4.2 |
| 09:53.35 | mumpitzel | Arafangion: what cpu do you have? |
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| 09:56.16 | Arafangion | mumpitzel: A recent i7, I forget the exact model. With 16 or 32 GB of RAM. |
| 09:56.28 | mumpitzel | ok, then you have VT-x available |
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| 09:56.35 | Arafangion | I most certainly do. |
| 09:56.47 | Arafangion | I might have VT-d as well. |
| 09:57.34 | Arafangion | But I'm less concerned about that. |
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| 10:00.01 | xmj | ...unless you've disabled it in BIOS. |
| 10:00.32 | Arafangion | xmj: It's disabled by default. |
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| 10:04.42 | Arafangion | Hmpf. VLC doesn't play Videos very nicely via ssh. |
| 10:06.15 | musca | mumpitzel: if you want usb2 with GPLed software: http://git.qemu.org/?p=qemu.git;a=blob_plain;f=docs/usb2.txt;hb=HEAD |
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| 10:07.13 | Samul | hi |
| 10:07.20 | Samul | how can I install gnome tweak tool? |
| 10:07.25 | Samul | what is the package's name? |
| 10:08.00 | Samul | OK no, ignore me |
| 10:08.02 | Samul | I found it |
| 10:08.03 | Samul | :) |
| 10:08.44 | musca | Samul: yes, it is funny :) |
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| 10:09.09 | Samul | lol |
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| 10:11.18 | Arafangion | A lot of programs behave badly via ssh -X. :( |
| 10:11.32 | Arafangion | (vlc is understandable, but many others behave badly. :( ) |
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| 10:14.01 | jmd | Arafangion, Which programs ? |
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| 10:15.11 | Arafangion | jmd: Well, rox is /ok/, but the mac os x window manager sucks. google-chrome is unusable... |
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| 10:15.36 | bhuddah | what? |
| 10:15.50 | xmj | Arafangion: you don't need ssh -X to discover that chrome is unusable. |
| 10:16.05 | bhuddah | it's less unusable than firefox ^^ |
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| 10:17.07 | xmj | Not saying much ... |
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| 10:18.19 | bhuddah | Arafangion: how do you combine the window manager and chrome and vlc and ssh in one rant? :) |
| 10:18.27 | Arafangion | bhuddah: I have skillz. |
| 10:18.34 | bhuddah | impressive. |
| 10:18.47 | jmd | Arafangion, spelling isn't one of them. |
| 10:19.58 | xmj | Arafangion: you just sshtunnel the connection to OSX' X server, don't you 9: |
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| 10:22.05 | Arafangion | jmd: What's wrong with my spelling? |
| 10:22.07 | Arafangion | xmj: Yes. |
| 10:22.10 | Arafangion | xmj: Which I know sucks. |
| 10:24.15 | jmd | Anyway, I presume it is not ssh -X which is the problem, but simply the latency of a graphics heavy application running over a remote X server. |
| 10:25.05 | bhuddah | do you use ssh compression? |
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| 10:25.31 | musca | Arafangion: use nomachine/NX protocol to buffer X11-apps |
| 10:25.48 | bhuddah | nx nomachine sucks even more -.- |
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| 10:26.02 | bhuddah | but yes, it is a bit faster at that |
| 10:26.11 | Iridos | hm, my calibre on wheezy seems to have problems... for one, it's missing /usr/share/calibre/quick_start.epub ... but I think that's just muddling up the traces ... the other seems to be... something with tags? |
| 10:27.04 | musca | and nomachine/NX is not in debian |
| 10:27.06 | Iridos | AttributeError: 'BooksView' object has no attribute 'context_menu' <--- doesn't sound great either |
| 10:27.24 | Iridos | weird... the one at home is 32bit wheezy and I didn't have those problems |
| 10:27.28 | xmj | rants |
| 10:27.29 | Arafangion | bhuddah: No, actually, but I'm on local wifi. |
| 10:27.43 | bhuddah | Arafangion: compression will help. |
| 10:27.48 | Arafangion | jmd: I think it /is/ ssh -X... I think the roundtrips are killing me. |
| 10:27.56 | bhuddah | Arafangion: but on local wifi.. if this not works, you have a different problem. |
| 10:28.05 | musca | Arafangion: exactly |
| 10:28.32 | bhuddah | Arafangion: whats your local ping between the server and the client? |
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| 10:29.32 | Arafangion | bhuddah: It's fast, but variable. |
| 10:29.43 | Arafangion | Between 4 and 27 ms. |
| 10:30.02 | bhuddah | Arafangion: that is not fast. |
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| 10:30.14 | bhuddah | Arafangion: this is like what i get half around the world. |
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| 10:30.27 | jmd | and what's it like with plain X over IP (without ssh) ? |
| 10:30.39 | Arafangion | Most of my pings are about 4ms. |
| 10:30.43 | bhuddah | that is worth another try |
| 10:30.50 | Arafangion | bhuddah: There's also a fridge in the way. |
| 10:31.10 | xmj | use cables and gbe. |
| 10:31.16 | jmd | bhuddah, halfway around the world in 27ms is unbelievable. 400ms more like ... |
| 10:31.41 | Arafangion | I doubt I'd get 27ms to my ISP. |
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| 10:32.08 | bhuddah | oh |
| 10:32.16 | Arafangion | Ping to my router's 3ms. |
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| 10:32.56 | bhuddah | thats okay.. |
| 10:33.16 | bhuddah | even if it's about the factor 10 off |
| 10:33.32 | bhuddah | i guess for wifi it's okay. |
| 10:33.32 | Arafangion | factor 10? |
| 10:33.50 | Arafangion | Ah, yep. And both the client and server are on wifi. |
| 10:33.50 | bhuddah | yeah. i would expect something at 0.3 ms for the local router |
| 10:34.05 | xmj | it depends on what kind of router you run. |
| 10:34.15 | xmj | I had a great SMC router before, now I'm stuck with LTE.. |
| 10:34.31 | bhuddah | and that matters on the local end? o0 |
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| 10:35.08 | Arafangion | xmj: I'm not going to mention the type of router I run. |
| 10:35.41 | bhuddah | why not? |
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| 10:35.53 | jmd | Halfway round the world round trip in 27ms would be about 3 times the speed of light. |
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| 10:36.45 | Arafangion | bhuddah: My router is technicolor. |
| 10:37.13 | bhuddah | :D |
| 10:37.16 | bhuddah | we had that :D |
| 10:37.30 | bhuddah | jmd: 35 ms is 10500 km :) |
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| 10:40.48 | xmj | halfway round the world is 20011.. km |
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| 10:43.09 | jmd | bhuddah, Sounds about right. |
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| 10:43.41 | bhuddah | nope.. it was not -.- |
| 10:43.42 | Arafangion | So we're done with this one-up-manship? |
| 10:44.06 | jmd | Circumference of the earth is ca. 40075 |
| 10:44.15 | bhuddah | or was it -.- |
| 10:44.18 | bhuddah | *thinks* |
| 10:45.16 | jmd | If it's delivery by satellite, however the distance is at least 35000 * 4 km |
| 10:45.29 | bhuddah | no it was correct \o/ |
| 10:45.44 | bhuddah | times 4? |
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| 10:46.18 | bhuddah | Arafangion: were waiting for the non-ssh X test ;) |
| 10:46.33 | jmd | 35000 km (approx) is the height of a geostationary satellite. |
| 10:47.07 | jmd | twice that for a one way trip between any two points on the earth's surface. |
| 10:47.14 | jmd | twice again, for a return trip. |
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| 10:47.41 | bhuddah | ah yes. of course.. :) |
| 10:47.42 | xmj | finally, having remembered 10+ digits of Pi pays off. |
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| 10:48.04 | Arafangion | bhuddah: Ah. I would have to find out how to do that. |
| 10:48.35 | bhuddah | Arafangion: no big deal. just set the display variable to the client ip of your x display |
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| 10:50.10 | Arafangion | $ DISPLAY=10.0.0.37 xclock <-- Like that? |
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| 10:50.49 | jmd | Most modern X server configs disable TCP listening by default. He will have to turn it on. |
| 10:50.58 | xmj | Noob question, how do I get apt-get to get packages from remote instead of cd-rom? |
| 10:51.09 | Arafangion | jmd: Yes, and I've no idea what hacks Apple did. |
| 10:51.16 | Arafangion | Because my client is mac os x. |
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| 10:52.13 | Arafangion | It will need to be quick, too - my girlfriend is going to make me watch a disney movie soon. |
| 10:52.13 | jmd | Then why are you asking on #debian? |
| 10:52.16 | bhuddah | Arafangion: have a look at the firewall. |
| 10:52.27 | Arafangion | bhuddah: So the xauth is irrelevant? |
| 10:52.31 | mumpitzel | xmj: don't put a "cdrom" line in your sources.list |
| 10:52.32 | bhuddah | Arafangion: what have you done to deserve this? o0 |
| 10:52.34 | Arafangion | jmd: You've lost the context. |
| 10:52.37 | mumpitzel | !tell xmj about wheezy sources.list |
| 10:52.39 | xmj | path to sources.list? |
| 10:52.41 | Arafangion | bhuddah: I said I liked her! |
| 10:52.43 | bhuddah | Arafangion: no. but that already works :) |
| 10:52.45 | jmd | Yeah probably. |
| 10:53.07 | bhuddah | Arafangion: pray to god you are not upgraded to dirty dancing. |
| 10:53.10 | armin | uid=104(Debian-exim) gid=107(Debian-exim) groups=107(Debian-exim) <<< with a capital d? o.O |
| 10:53.26 | Arafangion | bhuddah: I've yet to find out what that is. |
| 10:53.48 | xmj | ah |
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| 10:55.02 | Arafangion | bhuddah: Ah, I'm too young to have seen that movie. |
| 10:55.18 | bhuddah | lucky you. |
| 10:55.39 | xmj | Pray you'll never get a girlfriend who enjoys it. |
| 10:55.52 | Arafangion | Well, at least I'm deaf. Can't be too bad. |
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| 10:56.50 | bhuddah | at least you wont have to endure the music |
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| 10:57.07 | Arafangion | I've never listened to music. |
| 10:57.20 | bhuddah | yeah. that is the sad part of it i guess |
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| 11:00.29 | bhuddah | what is that debhelper thing anyways? |
| 11:01.17 | Arafangion | Bah, I give up with the x11 thing. |
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| 11:01.29 | bhuddah | hehe |
| 11:01.32 | bhuddah | why so soon? |
| 11:01.36 | Arafangion | Getting Mountain Lion to accept connections is awful. |
| 11:01.44 | Arafangion | Plus I'm getting pulled away to watch movies now. |
| 11:01.53 | Arafangion | Cya! |
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| 11:02.31 | xmj | are there virtualbox guest additions? |
| 11:02.50 | bhuddah | Arafangion: hf |
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| 11:07.54 | Samul | hi |
| 11:08.25 | Samul | I have to configure libbluetooth-dev for dolphin-emu. can someone help me^ |
| 11:08.27 | Samul | *? |
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| 11:09.17 | bhuddah | Samul: what do you mean by configure? |
| 11:09.51 | Samul | I don't mean configure, sorry |
| 11:10.03 | Samul | https://code.google.com/p/dolphin-emu/wiki/Linux_Build |
| 11:10.13 | Samul | this is a built dipendency |
| 11:10.32 | Samul | I don't know what I've to do to run it |
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| 11:11.37 | bhuddah | like it says: "cmake .." |
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| 11:12.04 | Samul | I did |
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| 11:12.15 | Samul | but it still doesn't work |
| 11:12.19 | bhuddah | and? error? |
| 11:12.23 | Samul | no |
| 11:12.30 | Samul | simply that function does'nt work |
| 11:12.32 | Samul | *doesn't |
| 11:12.41 | bhuddah | and you did make clean before and make and make install afterwards? |
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| 11:13.09 | Samul | no |
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| 11:13.21 | Samul | what was the command? |
| 11:13.37 | bhuddah | huh? |
| 11:13.38 | Rydekull | it says in the guide you posted |
| 11:13.44 | Samul | huh |
| 11:13.55 | Samul | I made as written in that guide |
| 11:14.05 | Samul | exactly as in guide |
| 11:14.12 | bhuddah | yeah. but when you repeate the cmake.. |
| 11:14.19 | bhuddah | make sure you make clean before that |
| 11:14.27 | Samul | make clean? |
| 11:14.35 | Samul | wait |
| 11:14.45 | Samul | do I have to send the command make clean ? |
| 11:14.46 | bhuddah | if you are not at all experienced with building things from source you should maybe try harder :) |
| 11:15.02 | bhuddah | well. you can try to dance it. but i would suggest typing :) |
| 11:15.11 | Samul | but LOL |
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| 11:15.23 | Samul | no no I mean |
| 11:15.32 | Samul | do I have to restart the installation? |
| 11:15.38 | Samul | delete all and restart? |
| 11:15.56 | bhuddah | o0? |
| 11:16.08 | Samul | ? |
| 11:16.10 | bhuddah | uhm... |
| 11:16.20 | bhuddah | you should type "make clean" in your terminal |
| 11:16.20 | Samul | bhuddah: are you italian, maybe? |
| 11:16.24 | bhuddah | sorry. no. |
| 11:16.26 | Samul | OK |
| 11:16.28 | Samul | no but |
| 11:16.32 | Samul | "uhm" is italian |
| 11:16.33 | Samul | XD |
| 11:16.44 | Samul | make clean as root? |
| 11:16.46 | bhuddah | it is a real word there? |
| 11:16.51 | Samul | yeah |
| 11:17.03 | bhuddah | Samul: depends on where you have stored your stuff. and how you called cmake |
| 11:17.10 | bhuddah | what does it mean? |
| 11:17.16 | Samul | "hmm" |
| 11:17.23 | vlt | ? |
| 11:17.27 | Samul | words such as |
| 11:17.29 | Rydekull | Samul: its not just italian |
| 11:17.32 | Samul | mmh, uhm etc. |
| 11:17.37 | Samul | in english are hmm |
| 11:17.40 | Samul | or hum |
| 11:17.44 | Samul | but not uhm |
| 11:17.49 | Samul | it is not important |
| 11:17.53 | bhuddah | :) |
| 11:17.58 | Samul | I called make not as root |
| 11:18.05 | Samul | but it didn't work |
| 11:18.09 | Samul | so I called it as root |
| 11:18.13 | Samul | and it worked |
| 11:18.14 | bhuddah | oh. |
| 11:18.15 | bhuddah | okay. |
| 11:18.17 | bhuddah | well |
| 11:18.27 | Samul | so I have to type make clean as root |
| 11:18.28 | Samul | true? |
| 11:18.31 | bhuddah | yep. |
| 11:18.32 | bhuddah | better. |
| 11:18.33 | Samul | OK |
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| 11:18.53 | Samul | \ò/ |
| 11:18.56 | Samul | it works! |
| 11:19.10 | bhuddah | really? |
| 11:19.14 | Samul | debian's community is awesome |
| 11:19.20 | bhuddah | yay for me :D |
| 11:19.20 | Samul | thank you, bhuddah! |
| 11:19.23 | bhuddah | no problem |
| 11:20.00 | bhuddah | Samul: if you recover from a failure in a make it is best to make clean and then start over.. because errors will linger ... |
| 11:20.15 | Samul | it's OK |
| 11:20.22 | Samul | it's my first "make" |
| 11:20.27 | Samul | I didn't know this |
| 11:20.36 | etherape | Samul: you talk a lot |
| 11:20.45 | bhuddah | now you know. |
| 11:20.48 | Samul | lol wat. |
| 11:20.59 | Samul | I talk a lot, yeah |
| 11:21.01 | Samul | (?) |
| 11:21.28 | Samul | seriously |
| 11:21.29 | etherape | try to combine words in a phrase, it will consume less lines ;-) |
| 11:21.40 | Samul | ooh, true |
| 11:21.41 | Rydekull | I think he mostly refers to your "im-like" conversational habit |
| 11:21.57 | Samul | Rydekull: I don't understand |
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| 11:22.25 | Rydekull | Samul: You say alot of short sentences, try and combining them into longer ones instead of hitting enter all the time :-) |
| 11:22.32 | mumpitzel | !enter |
| 11:22.33 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 11:22.40 | Samul | oh, understood. sorry |
| 11:23.04 | etherape | try it look at it from a holographic quantum wave pattern point of view, talk less say more |
| 11:23.19 | Samul | talk less say more |
| 11:23.29 | Samul | I like this phrase *-* |
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| 11:26.44 | Samul | is sudo installed on debian? |
| 11:27.15 | etherape | aptitude show sudo holds the answer |
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| 11:27.29 | Samul | OK |
| 11:27.29 | Rydekull | Samul: which sudo |
| 11:27.35 | Samul | super user, do |
| 11:28.15 | Samul | lol "sudo" in italian means "I sweat" |
| 11:28.39 | xmj | which lists the location of programs in $PATH |
| 11:28.58 | etherape | which |
| 11:29.12 | Samul | ... no problem, anyway I never use sudo |
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| 11:29.31 | Samul | I'm trying to install bumblebee, but terminal says package not found |
| 11:29.40 | Samul | https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 11:29.45 | Samul | how can I install it? |
| 11:31.33 | Rydekull | Samul: like it says in the page you just linked? |
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| 11:31.54 | Samul | hum |
| 11:32.03 | Samul | it simply don't found the package |
| 11:32.26 | ll_ | is there some flag i can set on cron jobs that makes the cron daemon wake up the computer to run the job if it's asleep, or some similar tool that does that? |
| 11:32.27 | bhuddah | typo |
| 11:32.42 | ll_ | i know about rtcwake, i'm just wondering if there is something that does it automatically. |
| 11:33.26 | etherape | ll_: acpi scripts? |
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| 11:34.31 | ll_ | etherape: is that a package? |
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| 11:35.25 | etherape | i think acpi and acpi-support |
| 11:35.35 | Samul | how can I run a .deb from command line? |
| 11:35.48 | bhuddah | !dpkg |
| 11:35.48 | dpkg | somebody said dpkg was the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 11:36.16 | Samul | OK thanks |
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| 11:36.41 | ll_ | etherape: i have those already... are you saying that they can hook into cron and wake up the computer when a job is supposed to run? |
| 11:36.51 | etherape | Samul: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+can+I+run+a+.deb+from+command+line%3F |
| 11:37.04 | Samul | -.-" |
| 11:37.25 | etherape | you'll find a whole bunch of scripts in /etc/acpi |
| 11:37.48 | etherape | they are related to events on your system, just modify them |
| 11:38.05 | themill | Samul: didn't we go through this about 3½ hours ago? |
| 11:38.25 | Samul | yeah |
| 11:38.32 | Samul | but I don't remind the command |
| 11:38.39 | etherape | Samul: did you my link? |
| 11:38.43 | etherape | *try |
| 11:38.49 | Samul | etherape: yeah -.-" |
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| 11:39.09 | etherape | you can use this for almost everything you're looking for |
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| 11:39.25 | themill | etherape: That doesn't change the fact that Samul shouldn't be doing that |
| 11:39.57 | etherape | themill: true |
| 11:40.08 | themill | dpkg: tell Samul about bdo |
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| 11:40.16 | Samul | http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualgl/files/VirtualGL/ |
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| 11:40.28 | Samul | I need a one of that to install bumblebee |
| 11:40.32 | themill | Samul: the instructions are on the wiki page you already gave the link to |
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| 11:40.41 | Samul | yep |
| 11:40.52 | ll_ | etherape: most of them seem to be related to button presses and battery states and things like that, i don't see how they would help me... i already know how to set the computer to wake up at a specified time using rtcwake, i'm just looking for some way to run it automatically to make it wake up when a cron job is supposed to run. |
| 11:41.15 | Samul | is the link I posted correct? |
| 11:41.26 | Samul | I need a one of those, true? |
| 11:41.28 | themill | Samul: the debian wiki page is correct. |
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| 11:44.22 | crane_work | does someone knows this error? tcpdump: tap0: SIOETHTOOL(ETHTOOL_GTSO) ioctl failed: Operation not permitted |
| 11:44.30 | crane_work | and yes i'm root |
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| 11:56.06 | mechanicalduck | During a Debian Wheezy (amd64) installation: DEBUG: resovler (libc6-udeb): package doesn't exist (ignored) |
| 11:56.08 | mechanicalduck | DEBUG: resolver (ufsutils-udeb): package doesn't exist (ignored) |
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| 11:56.21 | mechanicalduck | is this just some unimportant bug or went something wrong? |
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| 11:56.33 | mechanicalduck | Internet connection / connection to the repository is ok btw |
| 11:56.37 | xmj | o/ |
| 11:56.42 | xmj | just had my first hangout. |
| 11:56.59 | xmj | Is sound on Debian by default 16 or 24 bit? |
| 11:57.28 | mechanicalduck | ? |
| 11:57.46 | mechanicalduck | https://wiki.debian.org/Sound |
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| 11:58.10 | martin-_- | hi i installed from my netinstall lightdm and gnome |
| 11:58.22 | martin-_- | when i now login in lightdm it loads the desktop |
| 11:58.38 | martin-_- | opens a terminal and then automaticly log off |
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| 11:59.49 | martin-_- | even I use root to login into the desktop |
| 11:59.49 | musca | ,v libc6-udeb --release wheezy |
| 11:59.50 | judd | No package named 'libc6-udeb' was found in wheezy/i386. |
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| 12:00.43 | musca | mechanicalduck: there is no such package libc6-udeb |
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| 12:03.02 | mechanicalduck | musca: so the installer did something wrong? because exactly like this is it written in error message |
| 12:03.13 | mechanicalduck | musca: I use the netboot installer btw |
| 12:03.19 | mechanicalduck | musca: maybe they forgot something? |
| 12:03.31 | musca | debian-installer udeb package Warning: This package is intended for the use in building debian-installer images only. Do not install it on a normal Debian system. |
| 12:03.54 | musca | mechanicalduck: so you won't miss it. |
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| 12:04.10 | mechanicalduck | but why does it search for it? |
| 12:04.24 | mechanicalduck | anyways, it is not important for operation, but it seems to be a bug to me |
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| 12:06.16 | martin-_- | it tells me gnome is not installed |
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| 12:06.36 | martin-_- | when i try apt-get install apt-get install gnome i get dependencie problmes |
| 12:06.43 | martin-_- | apt-get install -f doesn't solve the problem |
| 12:07.10 | mechanicalduck | martin__1: so install gnome? |
| 12:07.29 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: you get this using a console without gui btw? |
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| 12:08.33 | martin-_- | yes |
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| 12:09.22 | Jckf | I have a Debian box using a few simple iptables rules to do NAT for some other boxes. The Debian box has multiple Internet facing NICs with public addresses, and I'd like to forward ALL TRAFFIC for one of the addresses to an internal machine. How would I go about? |
| 12:09.48 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: ah, what do you want to install? |
| 12:10.10 | martin-_- | gnome |
| 12:10.15 | martin-_- | but it's installed |
| 12:10.29 | martin-_- | i think there was a problem when moving from whezzly to sid |
| 12:10.38 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: apt-get install gnome ? |
| 12:10.45 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: you tried this? |
| 12:10.52 | martin-_- | yes |
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| 12:11.04 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: what do you get? |
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| 12:11.09 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: already installed? |
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| 12:12.16 | martin-_- | i did install gnome on whezzly. after that i moved to sid with apt-get upgrade && aptitude dist-upgrade && restart after that i can't login into gnome so I tried apt-get install gnome and get the mssage the following packages habe unmet dependencies gnome-core evolution |
| 12:12.41 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: then try apt-get install gnome-core evolution ? |
| 12:12.47 | martin-_- | when i do apt-get remove gnome-core i get gnome-core is not installed, so not removed |
| 12:13.18 | mechanicalduck | hxcsp: not remove, install |
| 12:13.26 | martin-_- | then i get the following packages have unmet dependencies : empthy, evolution-dataserver gdm3 gnoe-conctats... |
| 12:13.30 | mechanicalduck | aha |
| 12:14.49 | musca | martin-_-: this happens with wheezy? what are your sources? |
| 12:15.54 | mechanicalduck | it seems to me that the package structure for gnome has been changed in wheezy |
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| 12:16.09 | martin-_- | musca, no this happens with sid |
| 12:16.12 | martin-_- | i upgraded it to sid |
| 12:16.49 | martin-_- | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main non-free contrib is my source |
| 12:16.50 | mechanicalduck | ah, you use debian sid |
| 12:17.19 | martin-_- | yep, i "upgraded" whezzy to sid |
| 12:17.32 | martin-_- | after the upgrade gnome and lightdm doesn't work |
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| 12:18.32 | abrotman | martin-_-: this is part of using unstable |
| 12:18.37 | abrotman | martin-_-: can you install gnome-shell? |
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| 12:19.00 | martin-_- | yes abrotman |
| 12:19.02 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: try to use aptitude, it could provide more information about the package resolution |
| 12:19.04 | martin-_- | i'm installing it |
| 12:19.44 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: apt-get install apt, command apt does not exist lol |
| 12:19.51 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: would be funny somehow |
| 12:20.00 | mechanicalduck | *command apt-get of course |
| 12:20.12 | martin-_- | so what should i try next? |
| 12:20.35 | martin-_- | there is nothing to upgrade with aptitude upgrade |
| 12:20.37 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: aptitude install gnome |
| 12:20.53 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: hopefully the output is more meaningful |
| 12:21.27 | martin-_- | how can i paste the output here? |
| 12:21.30 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: and, does it blend? |
| 12:21.35 | abrotman | martin-_-: paste.debian.net |
| 12:21.36 | mechanicalduck | martin-_-: use a nopaste |
| 12:21.44 | martin-_- | i cant paste it i got no dm |
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| 12:21.52 | abrotman | martin-_-: pastebinit |
| 12:21.54 | martin-_- | I'm using here my second laptop |
| 12:22.00 | abrotman | dpkg: tell martin-_- about pastebinit |
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| 12:24.45 | martin-_- | aptitude install gnome outputs http://paste.debian.net/25447 |
| 12:25.20 | martin-_- | is there no way to remove all gnome packages and reinstall gnome |
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| 12:31.05 | abrotman | martin-_-: not sure i see the problem ? |
| 12:31.20 | abrotman | martin-_-: pastebin your sources.list also |
| 12:32.22 | martin-_- | http://paste.debian.net/25460 |
| 12:33.36 | cstdio | thinks mixing releases |
| 12:34.00 | cstdio | martin-_-: you're mixing releases |
| 12:34.27 | martin-_- | cstdio, its outcommented |
| 12:34.45 | cstdio | Oh. |
| 12:34.47 | cstdio | er |
| 12:35.54 | Iridos | you tried to upgrade from wheezy to sid.... but you never went to testing... isn't it still so that sid isn't a complete distribution? |
| 12:36.04 | abrotman | martin-_-: pasteinb the output of "aptitude update;aptitude full-upgrade:" |
| 12:36.06 | Iridos | maybe not anymore |
| 12:36.10 | abrotman | mineus the : |
| 12:37.31 | martin-_- | http://paste.debian.net/25462 abrotman |
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| 12:38.54 | abrotman | martin-_-: aptitude install gnome |
| 12:39.46 | bhuddah | i always have sources for stable and testing in sources.list when i try to run unstable |
| 12:39.49 | martin-_- | http://paste.debian.net/25463 |
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| 12:41.09 | musca | Iridos: packages migrate from unstable to testing with 10 days delay, so both are quite similar |
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| 12:48.41 | mowgl3y | hello. can you guys tell me how to go about installing testing package on stable? |
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| 12:50.41 | martin-_- | mowgl3y, download the .deb file and install it with dpkg |
| 12:51.22 | mowgl3y | martin-_-: is that the official way? i.e. wont break y stable system? |
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| 12:52.26 | martin-_- | i don't know mowgl3y. But i think there is no offical way to mix packages from diffrent debian versions |
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| 12:53.27 | mowgl3y | martin-_-: ah cool. cheers. |
| 12:53.45 | LunaLovegood | What's a command line app I can use to get the loudness or average volume level from a .wav file? The metric used doesn't matter since I only need to be able to compare with other files. |
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| 12:53.59 | nkuttler | !tell mowgl3y about backports |
| 12:54.11 | nkuttler | mowgl3y: do not download random packages and install them |
| 12:54.58 | mowgl3y | nkuttler: no i am not. i want to install a package which is in jessie. i am on stable. |
| 12:55.17 | nkuttler | mowgl3y: yes you are |
| 12:55.26 | nkuttler | mowgl3y: see also /msg dpkg ssbp |
| 12:56.00 | mowgl3y | nkuttler: ok |
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| 13:26.11 | sheeny | can anyone help with what this error means: insserv: warning: script 'jboss_init_ubuntu.sh' missing LSB tags and overrides |
| 13:26.37 | themill | dpkg: tell sheeny about missing lsb tags |
| 13:26.51 | themill | (doesn't sound like an init script designed for debian) |
| 13:27.10 | sheeny | ah |
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| 13:29.04 | sheeny | hmm so a .deb package isnt meant for debian? |
| 13:29.07 | sheeny | handy L( |
| 13:29.08 | sheeny | :(* |
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| 13:30.51 | themill | sheeny: .deb is just a file format. You can put anything in it. RPMs exist for distributions other than redhat too. |
| 13:30.52 | sheeny | themill: thanks |
| 13:31.02 | sheeny | themill: ah right |
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| 13:31.18 | sheeny | themill: thanks, i shall find another way to get it working |
| 13:31.19 | propheticsquiddy | hooray, my fav os of all time |
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| 13:35.29 | Netlynx | What is the language C in the language selection in the debian installer? (other option is English which makes sense.) |
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| 13:37.22 | nicoo | Netlynx: C is English, with ASCII charset, I think |
| 13:37.45 | pr0ggie | can anyone help with this http://serverfault.com/questions/531220/ospf-routers-with-bird-on-debian-recognize-each-other-as-neighbors-but-cant-p |
| 13:38.33 | Netlynx | nicoo, that can make sense... thx. |
| 13:39.06 | propheticsquiddy | sighs. |
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| 13:45.12 | Twinkletoes | I'm running 2 identical systems just as openvpn clients for local networks, and every now and again the machine stops responding on the network. When I try to ssh in, I'm kicked out immediately, like an active refusal, and the only cure is to reboot the system. Can anyone help me where to start trouble-shooting this? |
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| 13:46.12 | Samul | Hi |
| 13:46.34 | Samul | I tried to install bumblebee from https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee but it doesn't work |
| 13:46.52 | Samul | when I try to install video driver, it says that doesn't find the packages |
| 13:46.57 | Samul | what should I do? |
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| 13:47.59 | DammitJim | Can I write a USB drive with a live debian 7.0 image? |
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| 13:48.06 | DammitJim | I saw that they were about 1GB |
| 13:48.11 | DammitJim | just using dd? |
| 13:49.39 | babilen | DammitJim: Use cp and not dd as that will scale the blocksize automatically. |
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| 13:50.13 | nicoo | Use dcfldd, it has a fancy progressbar :p |
| 13:50.17 | DammitJim | oh really? |
| 13:50.22 | DammitJim | will cp make it bootable? |
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| 13:50.33 | DammitJim | man, the livecd download is not downloading |
| 13:51.08 | babilen | DammitJim: cp can copy just like dd (there really isn't anything magical about dd) -- So use cp if you don't need anything fancy like "copy n blocks of each 512 bytes starting from an offset of ..." |
| 13:51.23 | DammitJim | oh ok |
| 13:51.35 | DammitJim | is there a magic command I need to run to make the usb drive bootable? |
| 13:51.56 | babilen | And yeah, dcfldd is a greate alterntive to dd .. but then you don't want to use dd anyway. You can simply run "cp debian.iso /dev/sdX ; sync" (with /dev/sdX being something like /dev/sdb and your usb stick) |
| 13:52.12 | babilen | DammitJim: The bootable flag is MS Windows specific. |
| 13:52.25 | babilen | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_flag |
| 13:52.30 | DammitJim | oh wow... never knew that |
| 13:52.33 | DammitJim | it's that simple! |
| 13:52.34 | DammitJim | awesome |
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| 13:54.13 | sashman | what means ">/dev/null 2&>1"? the 2&>1 what is this? |
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| 13:56.04 | Twinkletoes | sashman: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html |
| 13:56.35 | Twinkletoes | sashman: In short, redirects stderr to stdout |
| 13:56.38 | Nach0z | sashman: 2>&1 redirects error output to normal output |
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| 13:56.47 | xmj | sashman: you mean 2>&1 |
| 13:56.54 | Nach0z | and the >/dev/null redirects normal output to empty space where you never see it |
| 13:57.14 | sashman | thu folks |
| 13:57.14 | xmj | >/dev/null 2>&1 makes the stdout go away and the stderr come out at stdout. |
| 13:57.17 | Nach0z | so basically this thing should never be giving any kind of output to the screen |
| 13:57.27 | Nach0z | ... or what xmj said |
| 13:57.33 | Nach0z | I'm not brain today, ignore me |
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| 13:57.37 | DammitJim | babilen, what filesystem should I use on the usb drive? |
| 13:57.40 | xmj | Huh. |
| 13:57.42 | DammitJim | can it just be ext3? |
| 13:57.45 | Twinkletoes | xmj: Surely, that makes the stderr go to stdout, which itself has been told to go away, so not output will be seen whatsoever? |
| 13:58.04 | xmj | Twinkletoes: Surely you have noticed the hierarchy |
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| 13:58.24 | xmj | first, stdout goes away, then stderr is made stdout. :} |
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| 13:59.31 | jhutchins | xmj: That is not correct. |
| 13:59.33 | iam4722202468 | how big is the debian iso file supposed to be? |
| 13:59.43 | iam4722202468 | i think i got the wrong one |
| 13:59.46 | Twinkletoes | iam4722202468: There are lots - which one? |
| 13:59.50 | xmj | How so? |
| 13:59.54 | jhutchins | xmj: Oh, sorry, missed the first part. |
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| 14:00.01 | xmj | jhutchins: Good morning. |
| 14:00.03 | iam4722202468 | amd68 |
| 14:00.05 | mumpitzel | iam4722202468: there are many different ones. |
| 14:00.26 | mumpitzel | iam4722202468: they can be from 250MB to 4.7GB for amd64 |
| 14:00.33 | iam4722202468 | oh ok |
| 14:00.37 | iam4722202468 | mine is 222mb |
| 14:00.41 | iam4722202468 | which seems right |
| 14:00.50 | iam4722202468 | so how do i boot it |
| 14:00.58 | iam4722202468 | it's on a disk |
| 14:00.58 | mumpitzel | iam4722202468: how do you access the internet on this future debian machine? wlan or ethernet? |
| 14:01.01 | jhutchins | requisitions additional caffein. |
| 14:01.15 | iam4722202468 | has access to internet |
| 14:01.38 | mumpitzel | iam4722202468: that wasn't what I asked. please answer the question |
| 14:01.41 | iam4722202468 | i already have windows 8 on it, and need help dual booting |
| 14:01.43 | jhutchins | iam4722202468: Check the md5sum |
| 14:02.05 | mumpitzel | iam4722202468: please answer my question from above |
| 14:02.11 | iam4722202468 | mumpitzel, yes, i will have access to internet on my future debian machine |
| 14:02.34 | iam4722202468 | wlan i think |
| 14:02.48 | mumpitzel | then you most probably want a different installer |
| 14:02.53 | mumpitzel | !tell iam4722202468 about firmware image |
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| 14:07.32 | iam4722202468 | would this one be the correct version to download: firmware-7.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 14:09.40 | mumpitzel | iam4722202468: yes |
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| 14:13.43 | sashman | is 7.1. stable? |
| 14:14.49 | mumpitzel | yes |
| 14:15.17 | mumpitzel | it's just a few packages updated from 7.0. something what would have been 6.0.1 in times of squeeze |
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| 14:26.00 | n0c | can anyone tell me how to activate gnome's (3.4.2) 'simple desktop'? After I installed some nonfree drivers it detected compositing capability, apparently, but I'd like to run in the other mode to test performance |
| 14:26.05 | crane_work | does someone knows how to add a br0 without destroying network-manager support? |
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| 14:27.41 | n0c | oh, looks like I just need to choose 'gnome-classic' in the gdm session list |
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| 14:28.15 | iam4722202468 | which version of debian do i want if i'm going to dual boot it with windows 8? |
| 14:28.57 | crane_work | iam4722202468, doesnt matter... choose the stable version which is wheezy atm |
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| 14:32.42 | iam4722202468 | crane, would something like this work http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 14:32.53 | iam4722202468 | i really want to be sure |
| 14:33.31 | ksk | !tell iam4722202468 about netinstall |
| 14:33.34 | mumpitzel | iam4722202468: it would work, yes. is your windows 8 using UEFI to boot? |
| 14:33.46 | mumpitzel | ksk: he wants one with firmware due to WLAN |
| 14:34.00 | mumpitzel | ksk: the netinstall one is NOT usable for him (at least not easily) |
| 14:34.17 | iam4722202468 | how do i know if windows 8 using UEFI to boot |
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| 14:34.49 | mumpitzel | ask ##windows, I wouldn't know |
| 14:34.54 | iam4722202468 | ok |
| 14:34.57 | mumpitzel | or ask google |
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| 14:35.54 | ksk | mumpitzel: take a look at this link |
| 14:35.58 | ksk | its an netinstall image with firmware |
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| 14:36.32 | ksk | and as he will need internet during the install i think its kinda useful for him to know that |
| 14:36.40 | mumpitzel | ksk: your dpkg factoid will point him to one without |
| 14:36.50 | ksk | he has to use his brain, too |
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| 14:38.17 | DammitJim | should my usb drive be ext3 or fat32? |
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| 14:40.32 | ksk | what do you want to use it for? |
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| 14:40.45 | shafire | hi |
| 14:40.58 | shafire | could someone send me "libc.so.6" (x64) please? |
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| 14:42.25 | ksk | shafire: thats not how linux/debian works |
| 14:42.34 | n0c | meh, I still like Gnome/Openbox best :D |
| 14:42.57 | shafire | ksk: need it for another distro :) I want to crosscompile something |
| 14:43.44 | crane_work | shafire, get the source package? ^^ |
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| 14:44.55 | shafire | crane_work: I want to build gnat, but gnat is itself written in ada, and to compile gnat, I need ada. and the binaries from adacore are linked against glibc.... |
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| 14:45.36 | propheticsquiddy | i used ext.....hated fat w/ a passion |
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| 14:48.05 | mumpitzel | DammitJim: will you use it for linux only or windows/osx too? |
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| 14:52.36 | chrisirc | How to you sort by memory usage in top, by passing it an option? |
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| 14:52.59 | chrisirc | I've always been hitting shift-m within, but I need to advise a user and passing an option is easier. |
| 14:53.07 | chrisirc | Can't find it in the man page. |
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| 14:53.35 | zlude | Someone know a software(command line) to get text from images? i use something like it a long time ago but i don't remember the name :/ |
| 14:54.06 | mtn | chrisirc: I don't know about top, but htop is easy to use |
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| 14:54.18 | propheticsquiddy | there's text rippers or whatever they call em.... |
| 14:54.30 | movl | chrisirc, -o %MEM |
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| 14:57.47 | chrisirc | Thanks movl and mtn. |
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| 14:58.41 | chrisirc | Actually top -o %MEM says, top: unknown option 'o'. |
| 14:58.52 | chrisirc | Whatever, I've advised him to type shift m after starting it. |
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| 15:11.06 | pablo | hello guys, what should I use for the /boot partition? ext2 or ext3 |
| 15:11.16 | SirLagz | pablo: doesn't really matter... |
| 15:11.28 | propheticsquiddy | just use ext3 |
| 15:11.36 | pablo | SirLagz: doesn't it matter? |
| 15:11.45 | Ruth_ | either should be fine |
| 15:12.39 | SirLagz | pablo: either works fine |
| 15:13.13 | pablo | the default is ext2 isn't it? |
| 15:13.23 | propheticsquiddy | hmm...why not ext4? |
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| 15:13.58 | epsilon | ext2 or ext4 |
| 15:14.32 | Nach0z | ext4. |
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| 15:14.37 | Ruth_ | ext4 is high performance and faster in that you can turn of journaling |
| 15:15.22 | ksk | that really comes into account for a /boot partition ;) |
| 15:15.25 | Ruth_ | pablo:what are your system specs? |
| 15:15.30 | jhutchins | Ruth_: For /boot? |
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| 15:15.40 | epsilon | ./boot doesnt need journal, ontent is usually static |
| 15:15.42 | ksk | but yes, i suggest using ext4 just for everything if you have no reason to use something else |
| 15:15.59 | DammitJim | mumpitzel, it's for a live debian cd |
| 15:16.01 | Nach0z | use reiserFS for /boot, makes your swap give less CPU fault errors |
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| 15:16.01 | jhutchins | pablo: The installer should use ext3 by default. For a small filesystem like /boot it's the right choice. |
| 15:16.27 | DammitJim | maybe this usb drive is borked 'cause I copied another distro and it was acting up |
| 15:16.40 | pablo | jhutchins: the installer used ext2 by default, I tried it yesterday |
| 15:17.02 | pablo | Ruth_: which specific system spec? |
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| 15:18.04 | rozie | no point in using ext2. ext4 without journal is fine too |
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| 15:20.15 | Ruth_ | i meant where are you doing the installation'\ |
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| 15:21.03 | Mackwerk | Hello! I have this script https://dpaste.de/8RTVY/ I am trying to make it exit from the tail but it just prints the line i |
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| 15:21.20 | Mackwerk | 'm looking for and stays in tail I presume :o How can I make it exit? |
| 15:21.32 | Mackwerk | Sorry for the half message, my keyboard is weird :( |
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| 15:22.09 | pablo | Ruth_: you mean disk size? arch? or which specs |
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| 15:23.14 | Ruth_ | yeah, size,ram etc |
| 15:23.25 | sashman | What can i do to prevent if i break my system anyway to get it back to the state where i am now.. i confed my system 5 days now and i definitly dont want to do it again... |
| 15:24.04 | pupuserea03bf | sashman backup |
| 15:24.08 | nkuttler | sashman: backups |
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| 15:27.31 | ksk | :D |
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| 15:46.39 | Didji | Is chmod the right thing for that? |
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| 16:52.43 | frime | hi im on a 64 bit machine wanting to compile a 32 bit application that uses boost libraries, how do i install 32 bit boost libraries? |
| 16:53.06 | zoplrdb | Configure multiarch repos |
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| 16:54.00 | zykotick9 | !tell frime about multiarch |
| 16:54.13 | frime | thanks |
| 16:55.15 | frime | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 16:55.24 | frime | libboost-all-dev:i386 : Depends: libboost-dev:i386 but it is not going to be installed |
| 16:55.36 | frime | what do i do |
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| 16:57.43 | verysoftoiletppr | doesn't debian have a /etc/modules.conf? |
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| 17:00.10 | musca | !modules.conf |
| 17:00.10 | dpkg | [modules.conf] the source of all evil |
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| 17:01.09 | jmd | There is some app which gives me the scancodes of keys. Anyone remember what it is called? |
| 17:01.21 | musca | verysoftoiletppr: you may ask something like: How do i configure ...? |
| 17:01.37 | verysoftoiletppr | musca already found out tks |
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| 17:04.01 | musca | jmd: start xev from terminal, pressed keys will be commented in the terminal |
| 17:05.03 | jmd | musca I don't have X |
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| 17:05.52 | musca | hmm ... |
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| 17:06.48 | scotepi | is there a good channel to ask DHCP related questions in? I'm having a few issues with a DHCP server i want to flush out before making it live |
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| 17:08.01 | nkuttler | scotepi: ##networking? |
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| 17:28.17 | jmd | musca, Thanks |
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| 17:31.14 | SmashingX | hello guys, I have some problems with my debian installation, I can't connect to the internet, but I can connect to my machine via SSH or VNC |
| 17:31.29 | SmashingX | I uninstalled iptables because I thought that was creating the problem |
| 17:31.56 | SmashingX | there's something weird about it, when I do ping www.google.com, I get a response! |
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| 17:32.17 | SmashingX | so how come that I can't connect to google from my browser? |
| 17:32.33 | jmd | SmashingX, Then, it would seem, contrary to your first statement, you CAN connect to the internet. |
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| 17:32.42 | SmashingX | also I did sudo if down eth1 but it says that the interface is not configures |
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| 17:32.46 | SmashingX | configured |
| 17:32.58 | mumpitzel | SmashingX: /sbin/ifconfig -a |
| 17:33.06 | mumpitzel | then you know what interfaces you have |
| 17:33.23 | SmashingX | I have two |
| 17:33.25 | mumpitzel | then reinstall iptables and run "sudo iptables -L" |
| 17:33.32 | SmashingX | lo and eth1 |
| 17:33.47 | SmashingX | reinstall it? but I can't connect to the internet |
| 17:33.49 | SmashingX | how? |
| 17:34.43 | SmashingX | I don't understand, if there's no firewall enabled, what's causing that I can't connect to the internet |
| 17:34.52 | SmashingX | and I'm connected to it via VNC |
| 17:35.27 | ImaLamer | you are connected to the internet - but your browser seems not to know this |
| 17:35.59 | ImaLamer | SmashingX: does 'apt-get update' also fail |
| 17:36.08 | SmashingX | ImaLamer: but when I do sudo apt-get install iptables, it can't con net to the repositories |
| 17:36.12 | SmashingX | yep |
| 17:36.54 | SmashingX | is there another firewall? |
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| 17:37.08 | frime | how do i get my debian to install 32 bit boost libraries instead of 64 bit, ive been trying all day |
| 17:37.13 | xmj | ipfw, pf, ... |
| 17:37.38 | SmashingX | mhhh |
| 17:37.41 | SmashingX | none of them |
| 17:37.48 | SmashingX | I uninstalled all |
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| 17:38.02 | xmj | doh. wrong channel |
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| 17:41.19 | musca | frime: what do you want to achieve, what did you try, what was the result? |
| 17:41.38 | frime | im on 64 bit machine, wanting to compile a 32 bit application that uses boost libraries |
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| 17:42.38 | babilen | frime: They might not be co-installable with amd64 libraries (or installable on an amd64 system), but the general approach is: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
| 17:42.55 | SmashingX | what does it mean or what do I have to do when it says that the interface is not configured? |
| 17:43.08 | frime | im fine with just 32 bit libraries |
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| 17:44.05 | musca | SmashingX: please provide the whole output in http://paste.debian.net |
| 17:44.07 | frime | im trying apt-get install libboost-all-dev:i386 but it just complains about unmet dependencies (no idea what it means) |
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| 17:44.59 | SmashingX | what output musca ? |
| 17:45.32 | timss | Hi. In a moment of sillyness I installed Debian (testing) on my SSD with the default partitioning. Rootfs is way too small and after a `aptitude safe-upgrade` I have 336 KB space left (kernel update). There's nothing in /opt (it doesn't even exist). Seeing as rootfs is the primary it doesn't seem that I can't shrink swap => move /usr, /var => resize /. Is reinstall my only option if I want to fix proper sizes |
| 17:45.32 | timss | on my partitions or is there some magic I can do to resize rootfs (swap can be shrinked)? I was rather suprised how fast it got filled, I have no idea why it would be sized so small... http://i.imgur.com/g13K2Lv.png |
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| 17:46.39 | ImaLamer | SmashingX: we'd need to see your /etc/networking/interfaces and any other command outputs in regards to networking (ifup, etc) |
| 17:46.43 | frime | http://paste.debian.net/25584/ |
| 17:46.48 | jmd | timss, It depends. |
| 17:46.50 | timss | (the picture isn't updated, it's now 100% full =~ 336 kb left) |
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| 17:47.11 | musca | SmashingX: how did it come to your mind "it says that the interface is not configured"? |
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| 17:47.29 | SmashingX | what???? it said that |
| 17:47.32 | ImaLamer | SmashingX: the VNC connection - have you had that up since before this started? because i've had interfaces stop working but existing connections stay live - the router was the culprit |
| 17:47.36 | SmashingX | the error says that |
| 17:47.51 | jmd | timss, If you use lvm resizing volumes is easy(ish). |
| 17:48.03 | SmashingX | ImaLamer: I rebooted the machine and connect to it again |
| 17:48.08 | jmd | Raw partitions on the other hand are not so easy. |
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| 17:48.20 | musca | SmashingX: yes, and i asked for that full output |
| 17:48.31 | ImaLamer | SmashingX: also provide the output 'ifconfig -a' if you could |
| 17:48.51 | timss | jmd: Sadly I don't use LVM. Thought I'd keep it simple for some reason, when this in fact is quite the opposite. Reinstall is probably the easiest/safest it seems. |
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| 17:50.14 | jmd | timss, Well yes, because LVM is so flexible, it does take a bit of learning. But it pays off when you want to add another disk ... |
| 17:51.50 | frime | fuck at this point i should just install debian 32 bit and compile there |
| 17:51.53 | frime | fucking |
| 17:52.02 | SmashingX | http://paste.debian.net/25585/ |
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| 17:52.18 | SmashingX | musca ^ |
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| 17:54.09 | timss | jmd: This is just a SSD and all my bigger data is going to be on seperate disks, probably on my NAS, so I don't really see the big need for LVM here if I just partition it properly. Anyway thanks for the input, I'll just go ahead and reinstall and do something simple like rootfs=15G, swap=2G (I use suspend/got 8GB ram), tmp=500M/ramdisk, home=the rest. I thought I'd give the partitioning that the Debian |
| 17:54.09 | timss | installer suggested but it seems to be somewhat messy when the sizes is so way off (new install, just got KDE and nothing else that takes much space). |
| 17:54.31 | musca | SmashingX: thx, and the output of 'ifconfig -a' |
| 17:54.57 | musca | SmashingX: thx, and the output of 'ifconfig -a' , please :) |
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| 17:55.10 | jmd | timss, Have you tried deleteing the old .debs in /var/cache/apt ? |
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| 17:55.26 | ImaLamer | timss: you can resize the partitions with tools like partedmagic |
| 17:55.40 | timss | jmd: /var is on a separate partition. |
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| 17:56.20 | timss | ImaLamer: You can resize partitions with Gparted aswell, but it doesn't seems to be possible since rootfs is primary, and at ~333.0 MiB it switches to extended (/usr, /var, ...) |
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| 17:57.08 | ImaLamer | oh rootfs |
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| 17:57.38 | ImaLamer | well - you can still do it i think, but easier (less time) and less risk in reinstalling |
| 17:57.51 | jmd | You might be able kludge something with a symlink. |
| 17:57.55 | ImaLamer | i also ran out of room on /var not long ago with the suggested sizes |
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| 17:59.14 | ImaLamer | timss: i suggested partedmagic because it's got gparted and much more on the disc - nice swiss army knife to have, saved my rear before |
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| 18:00.21 | timss | ImaLamer: It's not even an option in Gparted, and quite frankly it makes sense that you can't skew primary => extended positions just like that without remaking the partition table or whatever. Either way, the suggested sizes are silly. It should be big enough to atleast update my kernel (/boot) without a problem. Not exactly user friendly. |
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| 18:00.39 | timss | jmd: Yeah, possibly, but it sounds like asking for (real) problems. |
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| 18:08.53 | ImaLamer | timss: i've had to shink and move all my sub-partitions inside an extended and redo everything and it took about a year to run |
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| 18:09.31 | bronaugh | I know the filesystem has to pass it through (DISCARD) and I know the device has to support TRIM, but I'm really not sure what, if any, role the controller plays. |
| 18:09.34 | bronaugh | any edification on this point? |
| 18:09.45 | timss | ImaLamer: I could do that too, or split out parts of rootfs to seperate partitions, but it'll be just messy. And slow :p |
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| 18:10.58 | timss | bronaugh: hdparm -I /dev/sdc1 | awk '/.*TRIM supported.*/{ if ($1 == "*") print "Yes, TRIM is enabled"; else print "No, TRIM is not enabled.";}' |
| 18:11.03 | jmd | timss, I recommend you purchase a second disk |
| 18:12.20 | akemrir | hello, is there simple way to install newest version of texlive in debian stable? |
| 18:12.21 | timss | jmd: I don't see how that would help me. The problem is a small rootfs, and it's primary so it doesn't look like it can be resized. |
| 18:13.29 | jmd | You could transfer the rootfs onto the new disk. |
| 18:15.35 | timss | jmd: Hm, that itself won't solve my problem but that gave me an idea. I could take a backup of the whole system and/or take an image of rootfs, and then copy the files/resize rootfs afterwards. Then I wouldn't have to reinstall, just make a new partitioning scheme/maybe fix the boot. |
| 18:16.01 | bronaugh | timss: the dev supports it, but FITRIM fails. ext4 fs. |
| 18:16.48 | timss | bronaugh: Ok, I have no experience with that sorry. |
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| 18:17.26 | bronaugh | timss: yeah, neither does anyone else. |
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| 18:29.52 | tonsofpcs | Fresh install of 7.1 (yesterday), Brightness & Lock only gives fixed temporal options for "Turn screen off when inactive for: ". How can I set the system to never do such? |
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| 18:32.00 | arare | Aramur :) |
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| 18:33.45 | calisto1 | any know why mount a davfs everything mount this, including if no network connection? |
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| 18:37.58 | Samul | hi all |
| 18:38.12 | Samul | when I try to make a screen with stamp, nothing happens |
| 18:38.20 | Samul | how can I fix this? |
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| 18:49.10 | timss | It's probably a good idea to give us the command |
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| 18:50.29 | Samul | timss: are you talking with me? |
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| 18:51.27 | Samul | Oh, I just had to install gnome-screenshot |
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| 18:51.43 | nyuszika7h | help... there is no documentation on libapt and apt's code is just awful |
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| 18:52.40 | DammitJim | how can I tell if the system is still writing to a usb drive? |
| 18:52.49 | DammitJim | I'm doing a cp debian.iso /dev/sdd |
| 18:52.54 | DammitJim | and it's been a couple of minutes |
| 18:52.59 | timss | Samul: It was for you, yeah. Also, the best screenshot tool is KSnapshot. |
| 18:53.01 | DammitJim | I am copying data on another 2 usb ports, though |
| 18:53.31 | jordanm | DammitJim: cp debian.iso /dev/sdd probably isn't doing what you think it's doing |
| 18:53.40 | jordanm | perhaps you wanted cat debian.iso > /dev/sdd? |
| 18:53.55 | DammitJim | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 18:54.38 | jordanm | DammitJim: strace -vvtf -s 400 -p <pid of copy> |
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| 18:55.08 | DammitJim | are you sure it's wtf? |
| 18:55.10 | DammitJim | LOL |
| 18:55.11 | DammitJim | thanks jordanm |
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| 18:57.18 | DammitJim | what is the w switch for? |
| 18:57.31 | DammitJim | I took the w out and it said: Process 11941 attached - interrupt to quit |
| 18:57.42 | DammitJim | was that supposed to be v instead of w? |
| 18:58.11 | timss | It says vv. |
| 18:58.37 | timss | Use another font if it's unclear. I suggest DejaVu Sans Mono. |
| 18:58.56 | DammitJim | timss, my version of strace doesn't support a w |
| 18:59.03 | DammitJim | strace: invalid option -- 'w' |
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| 18:59.35 | DammitJim | what is w supposed to do? maybe they changed it to a different name on this version |
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| 19:00.18 | timss | That's because you're still reading it wrong. It's V. |
| 19:00.32 | DammitJim | http://linux.die.net/man/1/strace <- no w |
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| 19:00.49 | timss | Still not w... |
| 19:00.54 | Theoden | abrotman: You there? |
| 19:00.56 | mtn | DammitJim: cut and pasting works a treat :p |
| 19:01.07 | DammitJim | mtn, what are you talking about? |
| 19:01.25 | mtn | DammitJim: copying the command instead of guessing |
| 19:01.49 | DammitJim | mtn, are you blind? there is no w option, so I was asking jordanm if he meant something else besides the w |
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| 19:02.22 | mtn | DammitJim: no I am not blind, but maybe you are :) it has two v's in it, not even one w |
| 19:02.32 | JyZyXEL | did single user mode have networking? |
| 19:02.40 | mtn | DammitJim: v as in victor |
| 19:02.45 | DammitJim | I apologize |
| 19:02.57 | DammitJim | I am blind |
| 19:03.05 | timss | I told you multiple times. |
| 19:03.11 | DammitJim | sorry timss and mtn |
| 19:03.16 | mtn | np |
| 19:03.41 | DammitJim | this is probably basic linux, but why would one do double v? |
| 19:03.42 | timss | No problem. IRCing blind however is probably interesting. |
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| 19:03.56 | DammitJim | I got to get off irssi |
| 19:04.02 | Theoden | Just upgraded to jessie - but I need to install tg3 driver. However, http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=jessie&arch=any&mode=path&searchon=contents&keywords=tg3.ko dies not list my kernel. Can anyone offer any advice? Current kernel is - linux-image-3.10-2-686-pae 3.10.5-1 |
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| 19:04.50 | timss | DammitJim: I don't see why you would need double V's either. It doesn't look like there's a -vt option either (so it would've been -v, -vt, -f or something) |
| 19:05.13 | DammitJim | dammit |
| 19:05.20 | DammitJim | 15:00:05 lseek(0, 0, SEEK_CUR) = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek) |
| 19:05.24 | DammitJim | this USB drive is hosed |
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| 19:07.42 | niklaswe | 3 |
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| 19:11.12 | moxie | Theoden, you need the non-free repo or something |
| 19:12.19 | moxie | i use the firmware install dvd |
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| 19:12.41 | moxie | for 7.1 then i upgrade to testing |
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| 19:14.40 | jesther | What's going on people? |
| 19:14.49 | jesther | If you need me, I'll be in the bathroom. |
| 19:15.28 | DammitJim | there can't be that much difference between 7.1 and jessie...? |
| 19:15.56 | jesther | jessie is still beta. wheezy is stable. |
| 19:16.11 | DammitJim | I mean, unless you are developing... to go to jessie |
| 19:16.43 | jesther | Nah, they wouldn't waste time for negligence. |
| 19:16.58 | jesther | It's all about grabbing what you want. |
| 19:17.15 | DammitJim | tru |
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| 19:18.09 | jesther | A lot of users in this channel. |
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| 19:19.56 | Theoden | moxie: Got it - thx. |
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| 19:21.35 | moxie | i chose to go to testing to get the latest'ier virtualbox rather than have some mixed repo stuff going on |
| 19:22.01 | tremon | Theoden: tg3 firmware is in firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 19:22.03 | moxie | since it works, i should disable the repo though, to make sure no one does an upgrade 2 months later and something breaks |
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| 19:22.11 | tonsofpcs | any way to disable screen turn-off timeout? |
| 19:22.26 | moxie | tonsofpcs, on console? |
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| 19:23.54 | moxie | http://doug.warner.fm/d/content/disable-console-blanking |
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| 19:24.45 | martin-_- | this erasing data on the debian setup takes forever... is this normal? |
| 19:25.02 | tonsofpcs | in gnome... 7.1 |
| 19:25.59 | mtn | martin-_-: please explain what you are talking about |
| 19:26.05 | jesther | .-. |
| 19:27.09 | martin-_- | i'm installting debian netinstall and i'm at the partion disks step |
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| 19:27.22 | martin-_- | now its easing data on scsl1 /sda |
| 19:27.31 | martin-_- | *erasing |
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| 19:28.16 | mtn | martin-_-: erasing or formatting? |
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| 19:28.56 | martin-_- | erasing data |
| 19:28.56 | confusid | is there a good howto for installing postgresql and phppgadmin? I'v installed both with php5 apache2 and the php5-pgsql But the admin page doesn't exist. |
| 19:29.39 | mtn | martin-_-: I didn't know that was an option. I always just format the partition I want to use. not sure what you are doing. |
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| 19:30.56 | jesther | martin-_-: It would be erased while formatting so it's doing both if you do it how you did it. |
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| 19:31.56 | timholum | Hello, I am attempting to install debian on my nas using http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.armel/ch05s01.html#boot-firmware-ss4000e, I was wondering if anyone here had any experiance with that ( I know its a long shot, but hey :) ), I keep getting a kernel panic when ever I try to boot the installer |
| 19:32.35 | jesther | confusid: Check the debian reference page under their website .v. Documentation .v. Reference. |
| 19:33.21 | acemi | confusid: iirc, phppgadmin allows only local clients by default and you have to add the others from /etc/pgppgadmin/apacheçconf |
| 19:33.54 | acemi | /etc/phppgadmin/apache.conf |
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| 19:35.53 | jesther | timholum: your computer is not necessarily a nas if you are using NAS storage. The host computer is used as a NAS and would lease a driver for the hardware. |
| 19:36.22 | timholum | jesther: I am trying to install linux on the nas ( to replace its firmware ) |
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| 19:36.42 | jesther | I don't think you can since NAS only supports ethernet. |
| 19:37.07 | timholum | The nas has an internal serial console |
| 19:37.18 | timholum | Which I can get to the bootloader, and command prompt |
| 19:37.33 | timholum | I am actually logged into the system right now as root via a serial cable |
| 19:37.34 | jesther | I don't recall serial slots as a denture for networks. |
| 19:38.05 | timholum | jesther: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DeEgVSlLXw5g&ei=Ei4NUoTWAeTL2QWao4DoAw&usg=AFQjCNEH_A70OyXH9Zfddzym87hMeEiaTw&sig2=mfG2Ev1RRPTvu5ZeKYrCfA&bvm=bv.50768961,d.b2I |
| 19:38.12 | jesther | As it says. |
| 19:38.17 | timholum | That is a you tube video of what I am trying to do :) |
| 19:38.36 | jesther | Maybe you have different setups. But who knows, you could be doing good with it. |
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| 19:39.50 | confusid | ty! |
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| 19:46.15 | zuzu | hello |
| 19:46.26 | zuzu | I just installed jessie but my grub2 is not right |
| 19:46.38 | zuzu | I get an error that it can not find the device UUID |
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| 19:47.03 | zuzu | not the right channel? |
| 19:47.08 | jesther | zuzu: you're probably mixed on distros that support .deb. |
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| 19:47.34 | zuzu | jesther: not sure what you mean there |
| 19:47.46 | jesther | Debian doesn't use UUID config. |
| 19:48.06 | zuzu | I can boot to debian's bootloader once i set root and prefix to the correct partititon hit insmod normal normal and we're off |
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| 19:48.20 | jesther | Right. Then you're right. |
| 19:48.38 | zuzu | jesther: seems it does in jessie? anyway I disabled the UUID option in /etc/default/grub |
| 19:48.46 | zuzu | and updated and installed grub to MBR again |
| 19:48.50 | zuzu | but still it does not work |
| 19:49.00 | zuzu | the thing is |
| 19:49.00 | jesther | I question why it doesn't. |
| 19:49.44 | zuzu | in grub rescue after it complains about a non-existent UUID (I have no idea where it comes from, I couldn't find it in /boot nor /etc/grub.d ...) |
| 19:49.56 | jesther | And so on... |
| 19:50.03 | zuzu | My /boot is found on (hd2,1) |
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| 19:50.20 | zuzu | but in my /boot/grub/grub.cfg it uses (hd0,1) |
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| 19:50.32 | jesther | Tsk tsk. Having your grub on second HDD/SSD is a bit frisky. |
| 19:50.36 | zuzu | but that is to boot from I guies |
| 19:50.39 | zuzu | jesther: |
| 19:50.41 | zuzu | well |
| 19:50.46 | Deeps | jesther: it is? why? |
| 19:50.53 | zuzu | I partitioned my /dev/sda as follows |
| 19:50.55 | jesther | Cause I don't know. |
| 19:51.02 | zuzu | LVM partition and /boot primary partition |
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| 19:51.16 | zuzu | so it's even on the same disk |
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| 19:52.03 | jesther | LVM to me is like soft-RAID. |
| 19:52.13 | zuzu | it is kinda |
| 19:52.28 | zuzu | I justed wanted it for flexibility, but that's besides the point here |
| 19:52.35 | jordanm | it isn't like RAID by default, but it can be |
| 19:52.50 | jordanm | you can stripe and mirror LVM, but by default it's just a span |
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| 19:53.10 | jesther | block by block. Tasty, but not my taste. |
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| 19:54.52 | zuzu | so it doesn't seem to find my /boot properly in the beginning because it is looking for some UUID |
| 19:55.01 | zuzu | and when I load grub manually it works |
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| 19:55.14 | zuzu | as in set root, prefix, insmod normal, normal |
| 19:55.36 | zuzu | where can I get rid of this UUID? |
| 19:55.47 | rryoumaa | is there such a thing as a ram disk that will expand and contract as necessary, so as not to use too much ram? |
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| 19:56.11 | jesther | swap. Needed for no reason but for adjustments within the kernel. |
| 19:56.15 | rryoumaa | alternatively, is it sufficient to set environment variables so that nothing will ever use /tmp? |
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| 19:56.30 | tgs3 | rryoumaa: ramdisk does this by default, it is not preallocating the ram |
| 19:56.36 | rryoumaa | tgs3: awesome |
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| 19:57.06 | rryoumaa | then i guess i will make ramdisks for /tmp and /var/tmp and the like |
| 19:57.34 | jesther | sorry zuzu. Can't help you much. I'm sticking with stable Wheezy for now. |
| 19:58.02 | xingu | rryoumaa: /etc/default/tmpfs |
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| 19:58.31 | zuzu | jesther: no probs. Do you know if there's a dedicated grub channel on freenode? |
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| 19:58.42 | tremon | zuzu: check your /boot/grub/device.map |
| 19:58.45 | jesther | Nope. Haven't scoured much recently. |
| 19:59.14 | tremon | if your bios is registering your boot disk as hd2 (is grub), make sure the device.map reflects this |
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| 19:59.26 | tremon | s/is grub/in grub/ |
| 19:59.56 | zuzu | now it says it's hd0 |
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| 20:00.05 | zuzu | but once I loaded up grub manually |
| 20:00.09 | zuzu | it _is_ hd0 |
| 20:00.14 | zuzu | probably because of this device.map? |
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| 20:01.02 | tremon | rryoumaa: you want tmpfs. There are three (tmpfs, ramfs and ramdisk), but tmpfs is the only one that grows dynamically and can be swapped out |
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| 20:01.33 | tremon | zuzu: I thought you said "My /boot is found on (hd2,1)" ? |
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| 20:01.45 | zuzu | tremon: yes that's correct |
| 20:02.03 | zuzu | I can load it up from grub rescue prompt |
| 20:02.19 | zuzu | and then I get the grub that was installed by debian, with background and everything |
| 20:02.20 | tremon | then I'm confused, your /boot is found on (hd2,1), but it's also hd0? |
| 20:02.35 | zuzu | but all the entries have (hd0,1) as root |
| 20:02.40 | zuzu | tremon: I'm baffled too :) |
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| 20:03.15 | zuzu | tremon: and these entries work btw, so once I got grub loaded up fine from the correct /boot grub just works |
| 20:03.26 | oo_miguel | I tried to install wheezy but there are some problems with dhcp and my network interface, I now logged into the shell from the installer to analyze the problem. is there something like ifconfig present? |
| 20:03.34 | zuzu | so it's as if it fails starting up grub properly but the settings are correct in grub itself ... |
| 20:03.36 | atomdream | Can someone help me with drivers for my soundcard ? |
| 20:04.00 | Walex | oo_miguel: 'ip' probably is present |
| 20:04.09 | tremon | there is a minimal config file embedded in the grub core which may contain a reference to the wrong disk. Once you have verified your device.map, you may want to reinstall grub to the mbr (with grub-setup iirc) |
| 20:04.10 | jesther | oo_miguel: You might want to try to have a Desktop Option checked from the install. |
| 20:04.13 | tgs3 | atomdream: just ask; if no help then try also #alsa and #pulseaudio |
| 20:04.24 | oo_miguel | Walex: ip is present indeet |
| 20:04.42 | oo_miguel | thanks |
| 20:04.45 | zuzu | tremon: I think you're refering to grub-install /dev/sda |
| 20:04.52 | zuzu | tremon: but yes I will check |
| 20:05.07 | zuzu | I have a supergrubdisk nearby so it's worth a shot ;) |
| 20:05.18 | atomdream | Im having a hard time trying to find drivers for my soundcard Asus Xonar DGX. can someon help me with this ? |
| 20:05.27 | zuzu | If you don't see me here soon it should work :P |
| 20:05.30 | tremon | yes, but I'm never sure which does which. iirc grub-install only writes the boot loader, but does not regenerate the core image |
| 20:05.41 | zuzu | tremon: oh i see |
| 20:05.46 | zuzu | let me check the man page then |
| 20:05.58 | tremon | I just try all of them :) |
| 20:06.11 | daveee123 | some parts of a webpage are not rendering in iceweasel for me. can someone help me figure out what plugin i might be missing? |
| 20:06.11 | jesther | atomdream: alsa-project. |
| 20:06.18 | atomdream | ok |
| 20:06.51 | daveee123 | it's actually a button/linked download that is not showing up. but i can see it in the page source and can see it on other computers. |
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| 20:07.46 | jesther | daveee123: You're connection might be slow. Try pinging other websites such as yahoo to test how fast ms=# is. |
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| 20:08.00 | tremon | atomdream: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Asus |
| 20:08.01 | zuzu | thanks tremon and jesther , rebooting :) |
| 20:08.04 | rryoumaa | thanks tremon xingu |
| 20:08.13 | daveee123 | jesther: thanks. i;ll give that a shot |
| 20:08.28 | rryoumaa | and tgs3 |
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| 20:10.35 | atomdream | jesther, tremon maybee theres a similar project for nvidia video cards ? |
| 20:11.01 | jesther | I wouldn't know nor much know as much to what it's about. |
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| 20:12.20 | zuzu | tremon: same thing :/ |
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| 20:12.48 | zuzu | except my grub menu contains hd2,1 now and boots from this like it did from hd0,1 |
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| 20:12.58 | zuzu | but I still have to load up the menu manually from hd2,1 |
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| 20:14.46 | x-s4nd3r | I added /home/x-s4nd3r/Desktop/tsh/dd/chen.sh to /etc/rc.local so that it can execute as root, but as I rebooted, it showed "/home/x-s4nd3r/Desktop/tsh/dd/chen.sh not found", why this happened? I want that .sh to execute as root on startup, but it fails to do so, it says "not found" |
| 20:15.37 | tremon | zuzu: I share your pain. I have the same issue on my new laptop, except that it's a uefi boot. Grub doesn't even give me an error, just directly drops to rescue mode. Somehow it keeps setting prefix to (hd0,1)/boot/grub, even though it's a specific boot partition, so the correct prefix is (hd0,1)/grub |
| 20:15.56 | daveee123 | jesther: looks like i don't have java |
| 20:16.09 | jesther | Sad. |
| 20:16.15 | daveee123 | what is the correct openjdk to install on wheezy? |
| 20:16.16 | jesther | I mean, not intentionally. |
| 20:16.20 | daveee123 | or iced tea? |
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| 20:16.51 | zuzu | tremon: is this a bug in grub? |
| 20:17.02 | zuzu | tremon: here's anothre post: http://askubuntu.com/questions/119597/grub-rescue-error-unknown-filesystem |
| 20:17.05 | jesther | If you're looking for runtimes, daveee123 then probably jre. |
| 20:17.09 | zuzu | I guess I'll try boot-repair too |
| 20:17.21 | daveee123 | thanks jesther |
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| 20:18.09 | tremon | not sure, it's definitely a bug in the debian grub package. Whether the bug is in the packaging or in upstream grub, not sure |
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| 20:19.28 | tremon | but even sid's grub2 is too old for my laptop, so I'm running a custom-compiled version, with some debian-specific hacks from the package still in place. It's not like I can report bugs about that setup anywhere :) |
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| 20:19.52 | daveee123 | jesther: my ping is 46ms and my jitter is 6ms |
| 20:20.02 | jesther | Nice sign. |
| 20:21.34 | jesther | Upstream isn't actually a commit, huh? |
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| 20:22.07 | jesther | Wouldn't known. |
| 20:22.12 | jesther | *Would've. |
| 20:22.15 | daveee123 | jesther: was that "Nice sign." to me? is that ping acceptable? also. is downloading java directly from java.com okay? |
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| 20:22.43 | jesther | daveee123: There should be a package in aptitude or you apt-cache search jre. |
| 20:23.18 | tremon | !tell daveee123 about java-package |
| 20:23.27 | daveee123 | jesther: yea, i have default-jre installed, but sights won't load some java applets and say i need java |
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| 20:23.57 | jesther | I think it's normal for it to work if there were no errors while install the package. |
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| 20:26.45 | jesther | But an example is with configs which I doubt java has. |
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| 20:44.36 | zuzu | does this (http://packages.debian.org/jessie/steam) mean it's in the non-free repo? I can't seem to find it on my jessie |
| 20:44.44 | msn | i am trtying to get snmp to report mounted partitions, even thou snmpwalk works from command line doesnt work from cacti http://pastebin.com/G4k6FyXP |
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| 20:45.34 | Deeps | zuzu: yes |
| 20:46.06 | zuzu | Deeps: but an aptitude search returns nothing and non-free is in my sources.list |
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| 20:46.29 | Deeps | haev you done an update since adding non-free to your sources? |
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| 20:46.48 | tremon | zuzu: are you running 32-bit? |
| 20:47.46 | zuzu | no 64 |
| 20:47.59 | Deeps | ah, it's a 32bit only package it seems |
| 20:48.05 | atomdream | having some problems, http://pastebin.com/YEDuEnqn can someone help? |
| 20:48.08 | musca | multiarch enabled? |
| 20:48.25 | tremon | then you need to dpkg --add-architecture i386, but I'm not sure all of the dependencies play nice with multiarch |
| 20:48.27 | Deeps | atomdream: install build-essential |
| 20:48.50 | zuzu | we'll see what apt says :) |
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| 20:50.01 | zuzu | when I do an aptitude search there is now a regular steam (which wasn't there before) and a steam.i386 |
| 20:50.03 | musca | atomdream: why do you feel you have to compile alsa? |
| 20:50.10 | zuzu | I guess steam just refers to steam.i386? |
| 20:50.20 | zuzu | v steam - p steam:i386 - V |
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| 20:50.37 | tremon | probably |
| 20:51.07 | musca | atomdream: ah, soundcard Asus Xonar DGX. I'm out. |
| 20:51.23 | atomdream | musca, im just learning linux |
| 20:51.39 | tremon | rejoices as he liberates one more machine from grub |
| 20:51.40 | zuzu | v stands for virtual apparantly, TIL |
| 20:51.50 | atomdream | Deeps, ty |
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| 20:52.45 | musca | atomdream: the more danger, the more honor! Hold on! |
| 20:54.25 | atomdream | musca, i get strange results after this command line |
| 20:54.30 | atomdream | wanna see it? |
| 20:55.03 | musca | no, sorry. |
| 20:55.08 | atomdream | :D |
| 20:55.10 | atomdream | why so ? |
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| 20:55.34 | musca | I'm not specialising in soundcards :) |
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| 20:57.20 | atomdream | i wonder who could help .... |
| 20:58.14 | musca | atomdream: did you install build-essentials as Deeps told you? |
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| 20:58.30 | Deeps | build-essential* |
| 20:59.02 | musca | yes, no trailing s |
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| 21:00.13 | chovy | what's the proper way to upgrade to python 2.7.5? |
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| 21:03.52 | nkuttler | ,v python2.7 |
| 21:03.53 | judd | Package: python2.7 on i386 -- wheezy: 2.7.3-6; jessie: 2.7.5-5; sid: 2.7.5-7 |
| 21:04.12 | nkuttler | chovy: you could probably build a backport |
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| 21:04.50 | nkuttler | ,checkbackport python2.7 |
| 21:04.51 | bronaugh | hey, anyone know of a utility that implements the syncfs syscall? |
| 21:04.51 | judd | Backporting package python2.7 in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.8) [amd64 armel armhf i386 x32 kfreebsd-any hurd-any]. |
| 21:05.16 | nkuttler | chovy: ok, might not be that easy.. |
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| 21:05.44 | chovy | nkuttler: can i just download it from source and install? |
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| 21:05.55 | nkuttler | !tell chovy about ssbp |
| 21:06.15 | nkuttler | chovy: that's the procedure to build a backport.. but good luck with that gcc.. |
| 21:06.48 | nkuttler | chovy: are you really sure you need 2.7.5 instead of .3 ? |
| 21:06.54 | chovy | yes |
| 21:07.00 | chovy | PyMessage requires it |
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| 21:07.49 | nkuttler | chovy: seriously? that looks like an xmessage replacement.. upgrade the system python for *that*? |
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| 21:09.05 | chovy | nkuttler: i think so. |
| 21:09.57 | chovy | maybe i'm wrong. |
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| 21:10.09 | nkuttler | chovy: you realize that you'll have to rebuild your backport for each security upgrade etc? and at some point there might not even be a 2.7.5 left in testing/sid |
| 21:10.34 | chovy | no. i guess i won't upgrade then. |
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| 21:13.52 | nkuttler | chovy: fwiw, the rox project has a history of oddly packaged software and development seems dead |
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| 21:14.09 | abrotman | seems it would be easier to update the module than to replace python |
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| 21:16.35 | nkuttler | chovy: what are you trying to do anyway? there's zenity for example you could find useful |
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| 21:22.27 | jesther | I second that. What major challenges are there between different versions of upgrades? |
| 21:23.14 | DammitJim | man, for my life I cannot share a directory using samba on Wheezy with a WIndows 8 machine! |
| 21:23.27 | DammitJim | the username/password thing is driving me crazy |
| 21:23.30 | abrotman | jesther: that's a vague question |
| 21:23.36 | jesther | ... |
| 21:23.47 | n0c | DammitJim: does it have to be secured with a username? |
| 21:23.57 | n0c | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.03 | DammitJim | actually, at this point, I don't care if it doesn't have a username/password |
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| 21:24.38 | n0c | i was going to suggest trying that |
| 21:24.42 | n0c | just an open share |
| 21:24.52 | n0c | guest allowed |
| 21:25.02 | jesther | lol. |
| 21:25.08 | DammitJim | guest allowed still prompts me for a username/password |
| 21:25.11 | DammitJim | I'm missing something else |
| 21:25.55 | nkuttler | guest allowed is not a valid config, is it? |
| 21:25.57 | abrotman | it's probably a registry setting on windows |
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| 21:26.34 | n0c | i dont have my working config in front of me but no nkuttler i think the sntax is a bit differenyt |
| 21:26.39 | n0c | allow guests = yes i think |
| 21:26.44 | n0c | browseable = yes |
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| 21:28.16 | DammitJim | n0c, thanks guys |
| 21:28.19 | DammitJim | but that's not doing it |
| 21:28.22 | DammitJim | dammit SWAT! |
| 21:28.29 | DammitJim | it changed the whole config now |
| 21:28.42 | n0c | use vim |
| 21:28.47 | n0c | swat is for suckas |
| 21:28.58 | n0c | :P |
| 21:28.59 | DammitJim | I had to try swat 'cause it wasn't working |
| 21:29.00 | DammitJim | dammit |
| 21:29.06 | abrotman | DammitJim: i told you already |
| 21:29.09 | n0c | you are restarting the service right |
| 21:29.09 | DammitJim | I had my squeeze server working fine |
| 21:29.11 | n0c | after changes |
| 21:29.19 | DammitJim | it takes a crap, and I replace it with wheezy and I can't get it to work |
| 21:29.22 | DammitJim | I'm missing something |
| 21:29.28 | DammitJim | yes |
| 21:29.30 | n0c | nsswitch? |
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| 21:29.33 | DammitJim | abrotman, you are probably right |
| 21:29.40 | n0c | is it trying to resolve the clients name on an smb request? |
| 21:29.51 | n0c | there are a few oddities sometimes |
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| 21:31.02 | pmart | !ssbp |
| 21:31.02 | DammitJim | ugh, but I just want to access it |
| 21:31.02 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 21:31.07 | DammitJim | no username |
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| 21:32.19 | pmart | i don't understand 2) why does he tell me to add bdo to soures.list when the package in question is not available from there |
| 21:32.20 | abrotman | DammitJim: i can tell you for certain that with squeeze + win7, you had to change registry stuff |
| 21:32.48 | DammitJim | abrotman, probably, but I don't know how I got it to work w/o doing registry changes |
| 21:33.02 | DammitJim | I know that because I had my dad's work computer and he didn't have admin privileges and it worked |
| 21:33.20 | DammitJim | I guess I need to first test it from another linux machine |
| 21:33.27 | DammitJim | to make sure that at least my config is ok |
| 21:33.36 | DammitJim | even though testparm says the share is OK |
| 21:36.14 | snollux | So I've got dependencies listed in my control file for my deb package, but it doesn't seem to _do_ anything. Is there a way to make it stop and tell the user, "You must install X, Y and Z first"? |
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| 21:37.30 | gee_ | hi |
| 21:37.54 | gee_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=IomxvOTf-So |
| 21:38.49 | gee_ | hello Americans |
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| 21:39.33 | darsie | I installed nvidia the debian way and my youtube videos are jerky in full screen. |
| 21:39.33 | gee_ | bb |
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| 21:39.49 | abrotman | are you actually using hte nvidia driver? |
| 21:39.54 | darsie | abrotman: yes. |
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| 21:42.24 | darsie | It least I got 1600x1200@85 Hz. Only got 1024x768@60 Hz with nouveau. |
| 21:42.30 | jesther | snollux: Are you using aptitude? |
| 21:42.48 | abrotman | it shouldn't matter |
| 21:43.05 | pmart | i'm trying to follow procedure 4.3.3 www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 21:43.16 | snollux | jesther: nope, not exactly sure what that is haha. |
| 21:43.20 | snollux | I just used debbuild to make my package |
| 21:43.23 | snollux | and dpkg to install |
| 21:43.23 | pmart | the last sentence says "If you used an hd-media image, you should now copy the ISO file of a Debian ISO image[4] onto the stick." |
| 21:43.50 | darsie | abrotman: There's a program listing the 3D capabilities. What's it called? |
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| 21:44.02 | abrotman | glxinfo ? |
| 21:44.16 | pmart | shouldn't it be s/copy/unpack the ISO file? |
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| 21:44.28 | darsie | abrotman: Yeah, I think that's it. |
| 21:44.55 | darsie | abrotman: Does that help identify my problem? |
| 21:44.59 | abrotman | not likely |
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| 21:45.56 | abrotman | pmart: are you trying to use the flexible way for a reason? |
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| 21:46.34 | jesther | darsie: You're interested in deving for 3d, you can try mesa. |
| 21:46.39 | pmart | abrotman: yes, i am a power user and i always need flexibility |
| 21:46.49 | darsie | jesther: no |
| 21:46.52 | abrotman | jesther: maybe you sohuld read his original problem? |
| 21:46.59 | jesther | I wasn't lucky in finding OpenGL. |
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| 21:47.22 | darsie | jesther: I installed nvidia the debian way and my youtube videos are jerky in full screen. |
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| 21:47.30 | ctmjr | darsie: what video card do you have and what driver did you install |
| 21:47.39 | jesther | works like fonts? slight RGB hinting? |
| 21:47.41 | abrotman | darsie: I use a "lowly" intel card, works just fine :) |
| 21:48.25 | darsie | ctmjr: GeForce 9500GT. 304.88, IMO. |
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| 21:49.35 | jesther | GeForce should have their separate drivers. Comes in pkg.bin or something. |
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| 21:50.06 | darsie | jesther: I don't understand pkg.bin. |
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| 21:50.38 | abrotman | jesther: how does this help? |
| 21:50.48 | jesther | It isn't open source. |
| 21:50.54 | abrotman | no shit .. |
| 21:50.59 | abrotman | files a news story at reddit |
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| 21:51.16 | sashman | does anybody got nvidia card with optimus mode (bumblebee) or any normal driver running with X11 ? |
| 21:51.45 | ctmjr | darsie: well that driver should work with your card did you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add nvidia as the driver? |
| 21:51.55 | darsie | jesther: I installed the nvidia driver the debian way before, but it didn't work. |
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| 21:52.31 | sashman | darsie: me too |
| 21:52.32 | darsie | ctmjr: I edited xorg.conf, yes. |
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| 21:53.08 | tgs3 | abrotman: I will upvote you <3 |
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| 21:53.25 | abrotman | tgs3: i don't know how to use reddit, I've never read it |
| 21:53.34 | ctmjr | and rebooted? not log out |
| 21:53.46 | Scriptonaut | hey guys, I just installed the 7.0 from a live cd, and it said that gnome 3 wasn't working properly |
| 21:53.55 | Scriptonaut | because my video card wasn't powerful enough or something |
| 21:53.59 | abrotman | sashman: yours is different, optimus is a royal pain in the ass |
| 21:54.00 | Scriptonaut | but it's a decent video card |
| 21:54.03 | darsie | ctmjr: My xorg.conf: http://paste.debian.net/25666/ |
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| 21:54.27 | Scriptonaut | does this sound familiar? |
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| 21:54.55 | Diranged | It seems as though /etc/apt/preference pinning configs do not apply to Apt repositories using a custom transport plugin.. |
| 21:55.03 | Scriptonaut | would you guys suggest xfce/rescue/lxde/kde? |
| 21:55.42 | darsie | Scriptonaut: I'm unhappy with kde, atm. Maybe I'll switch to xfce again. gnome3 sucks. |
| 21:55.43 | abrotman | Scriptonaut: for what? |
| 21:55.51 | abrotman | Scriptonaut: lxde is fairly nice |
| 21:55.58 | Scriptonaut | ya I usually use xfce |
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| 21:56.16 | Scriptonaut | the live cd is acting really weird, but netinstall doesn't work with the dhcp server at my work for some reason |
| 21:56.26 | Scriptonaut | abrotman, just programming |
| 21:56.37 | Scriptonaut | I won't be using it for any kind of server stuff |
| 21:56.49 | darsie | ctmjr: Does my xorg.conf look ok? |
| 21:56.52 | jesther | Scriptonaut: dnsmasq, reboot. |
| 21:57.10 | Scriptonaut | dnsmasq? |
| 21:57.13 | jesther | Yep. |
| 21:57.20 | Scriptonaut | just typing that will fix my problem? |
| 21:57.24 | Scriptonaut | with the internet? |
| 21:57.35 | jesther | uhm... apt-get install dnsmasq. |
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| 21:57.49 | Scriptonaut | I can't do that without internet... |
| 21:58.03 | jesther | Works with my NAT. |
| 21:58.15 | abrotman | jesther: please, you're not helping |
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| 21:58.38 | jesther | It isn't much. Just a single package. |
| 21:58.55 | Scriptonaut | yes, but it doesn't help if I can't download it |
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| 21:59.04 | abrotman | Scriptonaut: just ignore him |
| 21:59.19 | abrotman | Scriptonaut: so use the LXDE livecd |
| 21:59.49 | Scriptonaut | I'm trying to decide between lxde and xfce, never used lxde so might try it |
| 21:59.58 | jesther | Hm. Internet works and no apt? Whyyyy? |
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| 22:00.17 | ctmjr | darsie: yes are you using gnome3 because if you disable composite it might help but i believe gnome3 needs composite enabled |
| 22:00.26 | abrotman | jesther: please take a timeout and try to actually help solve problems in the future |
| 22:00.43 | darsie | ctmjr: I'm usind kde atm. |
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| 22:01.40 | chovy | what is /usr/src directory for? |
| 22:02.24 | chovy | can i download tar balls and build them there? or is it meant for something else. |
| 22:02.42 | ctmjr | darsie: you can try this then reboot, as root nvidia-xconfig --no-composite |
| 22:02.52 | darsie | What's the package that depends on the xfce packages? |
| 22:03.22 | darsie | ctmjr: ok ... |
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| 22:04.26 | SmashingX | where are ssh session activity logged? |
| 22:04.59 | cusco | what do you mean by ssh session? |
| 22:05.08 | darsie | SmashingX: last? |
| 22:05.12 | SmashingX | mhhh |
| 22:05.15 | SmashingX | not really |
| 22:05.44 | SmashingX | I want to know the information about what IP was used to connect to ssh |
| 22:06.05 | SmashingX | cusco: please search info about what ssh is |
| 22:06.31 | ctmjr | syslog auth.log |
| 22:07.32 | ctmjr | SmashingX: ^ ^ |
| 22:08.05 | SmashingX | no much information |
| 22:08.15 | SmashingX | it just says session opoened for user root |
| 22:08.23 | SmashingX | session closed for user root |
| 22:08.29 | SmashingX | no IP nothing else |
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| 22:08.43 | darsie | SmashingX: does last store hostname instead of IP? |
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| 22:09.31 | SmashingX | yes darsie |
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| 22:12.12 | SmashingX | !ping |
| 22:12.13 | dpkg | Sorry smashingx, you're not online. |
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| 22:12.56 | darsie | ctmjr: Is it enough to restart kdm instead of rebooting? |
| 22:13.23 | cusco | SmashingX: auth.log has ip |
| 22:15.09 | cusco | also last shows the ip |
| 22:15.11 | cusco | (or last -a) |
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| 22:15.33 | jesther | Thanks. |
| 22:15.50 | SmashingX | no |
| 22:15.55 | SmashingX | it doesn't |
| 22:15.59 | SmashingX | it shows the same |
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| 22:16.39 | cusco | sshd[31507]: Accepted password for cusco from 62.28.172.10 port 3344 ssh2 |
| 22:16.44 | cusco | it does here |
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| 22:17.57 | jesther | needs to wash the hogs ... |
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| 22:20.26 | darsie | ctmjr: After restarting X/kdm youtube videos are still jerky. They also lack the 'big player' button. |
| 22:23.55 | abrotman | darsie: which flash are you using? |
| 22:24.09 | darsie | hmm, flash ... good idea :). |
| 22:24.35 | darsie | which do you recommend? |
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| 22:26.17 | darsie | Shockwave flash 10.1 r999. Gnash 0.8.11dev, the GNU SWF Player. |
| 22:26.58 | ctmjr | darsie: since you already installed the non free video driver you can install flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 22:27.53 | j4jackj | Hello? |
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| 22:28.21 | abrotman | darsie: that would explain your choppy playback |
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| 22:28.48 | darsie | yeah, now it works. Thanks! |
| 22:29.02 | Butt3rfly | wow, new look debian |
| 22:29.16 | Butt3rfly | i need sound |
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| 22:29.56 | ctmjr | darsie: and you might want to remove that bit about no composite in your Xorg |
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| 22:30.04 | darsie | ok ... |
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| 22:38.25 | SmashingX | today debian is 20 years old? |
| 22:38.43 | SmashingX | is there going to be any happy birthday party somewhere? |
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| 22:40.26 | abrotman | many |
| 22:40.56 | abrotman | and it's the 16th (I realize it's the 16th in some places already) |
| 22:41.01 | abrotman | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDay/2013 |
| 22:41.41 | SmashingX | that's why |
| 22:42.34 | SmashingX | Switzerland! |
| 22:42.45 | abrotman | that's where DebConf is this year |
| 22:42.53 | SmashingX | pretty far away, I'm not ritch to travel all the way over there |
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| 22:44.22 | SmashingX | I wonder if Deborah is aware that her name is in an operating system because of his exboyfriend Ian |
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| 22:44.53 | abrotman | SmashingX: there's a history page for Debian, interesting read |
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| 22:45.12 | SmashingX | I know |
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| 22:46.14 | SmashingX | when one guy said: developing Debian is more fun and addictive than playing 3D shooting games, I wonder what kind of developing he meant |
| 22:46.42 | SmashingX | because you can develop in Mac, windows and I wouldn't see no difference |
| 22:47.07 | SmashingX | unless he's refering to develop linux kernel |
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| 22:47.37 | elkng | take the bash skill test, as root "skill -9 -1" my score was 200 |
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| 22:50.02 | jesther | Yeah. When developing for school and wondering where code goes to, it makes me think text books get wiser for us to read than for us to get wiser than the books. |
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| 22:50.48 | bronaugh | ugh, need to downgrade libc6 |
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| 22:51.16 | abrotman | what? |
| 22:51.17 | oo_miguel | what is wrong about this rsnapshot directive: backup_script miguel@foo.com:/home/miguel/bin/dump_db.sh mysql_dumps/ ? |
| 22:51.29 | abrotman | oo_miguel: what's the error? |
| 22:51.45 | abrotman | (or ask #bash) |
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| 22:53.03 | veelium | me |
| 22:53.13 | bronaugh | nm, got it. mildly annoying but whatever. |
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| 22:53.49 | nickmaiale | o/ |
| 22:53.58 | nickmaiale | happy birthday, debian |
| 22:53.58 | zmisc | hello :) |
| 22:53.59 | nickmaiale | :P |
| 22:54.06 | oo_miguel | abortman: not executable or can't be found. Please use an absolute \ |
| 22:54.06 | oo_miguel | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.21 | abrotman | oo_miguel: pastebin all the output |
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| 22:56.19 | oo_miguel | ah i am afraid thats not the way to do it. rsnapshot is not able to run remote scripts. i need to do ssh miguel@foo.com "/home/miguel/bin/script" unusedX and after that copy the results |
| 22:56.27 | oo_miguel | with the "backup" directive |
| 22:57.47 | oo_miguel | http://pastebin.ca/2432447 |
| 22:57.52 | oo_miguel | thats all the output |
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| 22:58.28 | abrotman | oo_miguel: seems like you may need to quote something |
| 22:59.03 | jesther | take out the username and hostname. just use the / (slashes). |
| 23:00.57 | oo_miguel | jesther: but how will rsnapshot know that the script is on a remote host without hostname ? |
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| 23:01.25 | jesther | It runs local to the host to which you run it on. |
| 23:01.43 | jesther | Which is already username and host... |
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| 23:03.34 | oo_miguel | jesther: waht I wanted is running rsnapshot on my local machine, and tell it to run a script on my server. afterwards backup the results of that script. (i.e. databases backup) |
| 23:03.59 | oo_miguel | The second approach works fine now. however I would find the first notation much more elegant ;) |
| 23:04.32 | jesther | Oh. I thought you wanted to get on another machine and run from there. Then just easily change username@host:$ to /. |
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| 23:04.46 | oo_miguel | i do backup_script ssh miguel@foo.com "/run_script > /temp/out and next line does a backup of this output |
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| 23:05.22 | jesther | You did mention it were to be "remote scripts" if I'm not mistaken. |
| 23:05.42 | oo_miguel | jesther: maybe that was not the proper term :( |
| 23:06.01 | oo_miguel | I have a script on my server (which is not at my place) |
| 23:06.06 | jesther | We'll look for treasure our own ways. |
| 23:06.11 | oo_miguel | and I put a script there which dumps the databases |
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| 23:07.01 | tinkster | What's the recommended way of getting a newer version of a tool installed than what's available from repos/backports? I need libdbi-0.9.0, but the latest deb I can find is 0.8.4 |
| 23:07.08 | tinkster | Building from source and installing in /usr/local is trivial |
| 23:07.11 | tinkster | but it seems unclean |
| 23:07.14 | oo_miguel | i run rsnapshot on my local machine (which I sit next to) and wanted rsnapshot to : login to my server , run the script, get the results and back it up on my local machine |
| 23:07.48 | oo_miguel | but that works now with 2 lines in my rsnapshot.conf. (not one as I mistakenly supposed it could) |
| 23:08.17 | jesther | Yep. It's all about the configs man. |
| 23:08.39 | oo_miguel | :) |
| 23:08.54 | oo_miguel | finally it works , thats most important |
| 23:09.37 | jesther | Always has been, always will be that way. |
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| 23:12.01 | jordemort | i'm having an odd problem with debootstrap, i've got an apt repo i filled with (obviously not) all the packages (i thought i needed) |
| 23:12.11 | jesther | oo_miguel: What language do you use for programming? |
| 23:12.17 | jordemort | when i run it it blows up with W: Failure trying to run: chroot /home/jwebb/bar/. mount -t proc proc /proc |
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| 23:12.37 | jordemort | which makes sense, because there is no mount binary in the chroot |
| 23:12.56 | jordemort | but, i can't figure out what i'm missing in my repo to make it work |
| 23:13.09 | jesther | jordemort: I saw this one. Try mount -t proc none /proc. |
| 23:13.10 | jordemort | debootstrapping off of a real debian mirror works fine |
| 23:13.11 | oo_miguel | jesther: java sometimes |
| 23:13.54 | jesther | Good old days. Didn't have too much caffeine in those days when I was starting out. :s |
| 23:13.56 | jordemort | like, pre-mount proc in the chroot before i run debootstrap? |
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| 23:14.10 | abrotman | you can bind mount /proc/ |
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| 23:14.28 | jordemort | cuz i don't have to do that if i just point it at http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/, it runs just fine against an empty directory |
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| 23:14.54 | jordemort | it's only when i point it at my local apt repo that it fails like this, so i'm thinking there must be something that sucks about my local apt repo |
| 23:15.48 | Butt3rfly | i installed debian for it's birthday onto my desktop, but i have no sound, can someone help me with that please |
| 23:16.01 | jesther | jordemort: You can't mount before chrooting because it requires proc only after chrooting. |
| 23:16.05 | Butt3rfly | did i just say that? i was disconnected |
| 23:16.33 | jordemort | jesther: it's not me that's actually doing the mount, it's debootstrap trying to do it |
| 23:16.43 | jesther | Oh. |
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| 23:17.30 | jesther | Did you reverse the order of instructions or something? Cause I saw this one in linuxfromscratch. |
| 23:17.34 | jesther | No wait. Gentoo. |
| 23:17.45 | jesther | Maybe both. |
| 23:18.12 | jordemort | huh? |
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| 23:19.02 | jesther | LFS. Yes. |
| 23:19.12 | jesther | Sorry. Not sure about that. |
| 23:19.18 | jordemort | i was thinking at first maybe it was cuz i didn't have udebs in my repo so i added all the ones from my package list and it still failed, and then i added all the debs with priority: required or essential: yes and it still failed |
| 23:19.35 | frew | is there a way I can list the packages I have that are from testing or unstable? |
| 23:19.45 | jordemort | jesther: i'm not really sure we're talking about the same thing, debootstrap is a debian-specific tool |
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| 23:20.13 | jesther | Yeah, I know. It's just that the way other documents explains it shows it is only activated after chroot. |
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| 23:21.20 | ctmjr | frew: are you running testing or unstable |
| 23:22.13 | frew | stable, but I think I have a testing package or two |
| 23:22.46 | frew | but I'm just not sure, I tried the pinning trick to set everything to stable, and then did an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade -s |
| 23:22.49 | frew | and nothing was listed |
| 23:22.51 | frew | so maybe I'm good? |
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| 23:24.15 | ctmjr | frew: why? did you add testing or unstable to your sources list? |
| 23:24.34 | frew | I was on testing while it was wheezy |
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| 23:24.50 | frew | so now that it's stable, I'd like to stick with it |
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| 23:27.21 | frew | screw it, I'll just hope |
| 23:27.30 | ctmjr | frew: then you will not have any packages from either (testing or unstable), but you should make sure your sources list point to wheezy and you will be fine |
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| 23:33.26 | nillynix | anyone here good with networking problems? |
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| 23:35.23 | abrotman | nillynix: ##networking |
| 23:35.58 | Butt3rfly | sighs, solved it |
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| 23:36.16 | nillynix | abrotman: buddy of mine is having some problems, i need some help, he is here 'pickles' |
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| 23:37.00 | abrotman | i'm just pointing out that if it's a Debian problem, you can ask here, but if it's really networking, use ##networking |
| 23:37.10 | nillynix | ;) |
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| 23:40.02 | nmlssit | hi there |
| 23:40.49 | nmlssit | The path "/usr/src/linux/include" is not a valid path to the 3.10-2-686-pae |
| 23:40.49 | nmlssit | kernel headers. |
| 23:41.24 | jordemort | i'm an idiot, all my packages in my apt repo were ending up in the $companyname component and debootstrap wasn't looking for that |
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| 23:41.37 | jordemort | so effectively, yeah there was stuff missing from my repo, EVERYTHING |
| 23:42.48 | nmlssit | what is the real path to kernel headers? can't install vmware tools |
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