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| 00:03.35 | somiaj | stoffLer: haha, reading some forums I see "I have since moved to Samba and never looked back!" |
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| 00:04.04 | somiaj | I didn't see anything in my quick skim of the documenatation on local permisions needed and decided I don't care as I don't use macs |
| 00:04.12 | stoffLer | ok. i am looking for a time machine server service |
| 00:04.43 | stoffLer | and with netatalk its going fine for the last weeks. |
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| 00:04.49 | somiaj | yea maybe someone else knows more about how macs work. I enjoy my ignorance of such machines. |
| 00:05.13 | bai11 | somiaj: I tried but at "dkpg -i the.deb" I get dependency errors |
| 00:05.21 | somiaj | well one thing you can do is chmod 777 the share folder in question (note this is dangerous so be sure you know what it means) |
| 00:05.37 | hide | How can I migrate from upstart to sysv? |
| 00:05.41 | somiaj | stoffLer: but with chmod 777 if it doesn't work, then you know it is a netatalk config issue and not a permisions issue |
| 00:06.18 | somiaj | bai11: did it only create one .deb? does 'apt-get -f install' fix the dependence errors for you. can you paste the output of the errors at paste.debian.net |
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| 00:07.49 | stoffLer | somiaj: yes thats what i can do. but: netatalk uses the debian users to authenticate. my question is, how i can give them different rights. user1 only read (already done…:P) user2 read/write and so on. It would be great to know for debian itself (without looking at the problem with netatalk) |
| 00:08.02 | icedtea | is wheezy still on grub1? O.o |
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| 00:08.50 | somiaj | ,v grub-pc |
| 00:08.51 | judd | Package: grub-pc on i386 -- squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; jessie: 1.99-27+deb7u1; wheezy: 1.99-27+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.99-27+deb7u2; sid: 2.00-17 |
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| 00:09.28 | somiaj | stoffLer: well files really only have three setups, 'owner/group/everyone' |
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| 00:10.13 | somiaj | stoffLer: so you have to configure it based off of that. So if you want to allow everyone to read you can give write primissions to various user groups for differnt files |
| 00:10.42 | somiaj | stoffLer: one thing you may want to look into is the 'sticky bit', this allows multiple users the ability to write to the same directory but only the owner of the file can delete the file. |
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| 00:11.42 | somiaj | icedtea: I was under the impression that the 1.98 and 1.99 grub release are basically grub 2, but the default version of grub on wheezy is 1.99 |
| 00:11.54 | somiaj | ,v grub2 |
| 00:11.56 | judd | Package: grub2 on i386 -- squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; jessie: 1.99-27+deb7u1; wheezy: 1.99-27+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.99-27+deb7u2; sid: 2.00-17 |
| 00:12.48 | somiaj | icedtea: but it looks like sid (and most likely jessie) will be the first with the offical 2.0 grub package. |
| 00:13.06 | icedtea | oh my bad |
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| 00:14.16 | bai11 | somiaj: it created two, one has "dbg" in it's name, so I used the one without. "apt-get -f install" did something but I don't thinnk it helped. It wanted me to remove xfce4, should I? |
| 00:14.40 | somiaj | bai11: I can't be of much more help unless I see some outputs about what dependency errors you are having |
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| 00:14.56 | somiaj | bai11: can you paste the exact command (So I can see the name of the deb) and the output that then errors out for me? |
| 00:14.59 | stoffLer | somiaj: ok. I thought of it in this way: shared folder with group1 777 (maybe) and group2 755. not sure how to tell this to the linux… |
| 00:14.59 | somiaj | bai11: at paste.debian.net |
| 00:15.27 | somiaj | stoffLer: you can't have two groups, but give the folder 775 permisions |
| 00:15.42 | somiaj | stoffLer: then everyone in group that owns that folder (directory) can write to it, and everyone else can only read |
| 00:15.51 | somiaj | (note this doesn't limit read to only group2 though) |
| 00:16.16 | abrotman | you can use ACLs also |
| 00:16.25 | stoffLer | no ok. but never though of that linux can't handle this… |
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| 00:17.14 | stoffLer | than i will do it that way. maybe i have to do a mix of samba and netatalk then. but thx |
| 00:17.35 | bai11 | somiaj: pasted under bai11 |
| 00:17.48 | somiaj | bai11: can you just give me the link |
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| 00:18.27 | somiaj | stoffLer: listen to abrotman. Looks like you will have to use ACLs if you want a more complicated setup. |
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| 00:18.34 | bai11 | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/26467 |
| 00:19.14 | stoffLer | ok. i will have a look on it thx! :) |
| 00:20.00 | somiaj | bai11: looks like what you need is not part of a single source package. So you have some more work |
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| 00:20.57 | bai11 | somiaj: ah jeez. I'll figure out a different solution to my problems. anything I need to "undo" besides editing the sources file? |
| 00:21.26 | somiaj | bai11: repeate those steps for the source package xfvm4, xfconf, xfce4-settings, and so forth |
| 00:21.37 | somiaj | bai11: I was hoping a single source package would have created all the binaries for you. |
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| 00:22.01 | stoffLer | somiaj: For ur information: netatalk uses the system folder and file permissions for the network users. i added the user and gave 775 to the folder and know i can write to it |
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| 00:22.30 | somiaj | bai11: you should install the correct version of xfce4 package back on your system, if you downloaded it originally the .deb may be located in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 00:23.26 | somiaj | stoffLer: thanks, I might rember that. (: |
| 00:24.02 | somiaj | stoffLer: but after looking at ACLs that is what you wanted. (: |
| 00:24.03 | abrotman | has no idea how ACLs mesh with netatalk |
| 00:24.40 | somiaj | well if it is using the systems permisions I'd like to think it would use them just normally. |
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| 00:25.41 | stoffLer | i will test it and tell to u |
| 00:25.54 | stoffLer | but not today its a little late ;) gn8 |
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| 00:34.11 | mechanicalduck | I use the Debian netinst iso. I can't enable virtual console 4. |
| 00:34.19 | mechanicalduck | how can it be enabled? |
| 00:34.25 | mechanicalduck | this works with netboot (pxe), but not with netinst.iso... |
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| 00:56.34 | Yamaxanadu | Hello. I'm looking for advice on what desktop distro to install on my desktop. I'm trying to find something very low maintainance but that's still secure that I'm going to use as a media center and small home server for my family. Would Debian Stable fall into that category? |
| 00:58.25 | gez1 | Hi. In my testing install I can't select the apt-soruces via UI anymore. Synaptic always asks for repositories update and never shows the dialog (software-properties-gtk I think?) Any pointers? |
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| 00:58.35 | gez1 | *apt sources |
| 00:59.42 | miwa | Yamaxanadu: I'd say it does. But if you are looking to run specific software for your media center and home server needs, perhaps you should make sure they're available as packages for debian before making your decision. |
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| 01:00.44 | Yamaxanadu | miwa: If there's none in the repos then I can compile it from source, right? Things like MythTV etc. |
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| 01:02.10 | miwa | Yamaxanadu: of course you can compile from source. You could even make your own package for the software and contribute! But if you're looking for very low maintainance, I'd say you should go for a distro where someone is already doing the packaging, that way you can update regularly without too much work. |
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| 01:04.13 | Yamaxanadu | miwa: Yes I know, I just don't want to go to a distro that has packages I need, but have it be high maintainance. Because the computer I'll install I'd like to be able to set up, then leave it alone and assume that it should run fine without needing to troubleshoot for weird dependencies. |
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| 01:04.38 | Yamaxanadu | If I don't go with Debian Stable, what's another good distro that's similar in terms of how much maintainance it needs? |
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| 01:05.26 | miwa | Yamaxanadu: well, Ubuntu may be something to consider I guess. I'm not very well versed in low maintenance distros I'm afraid.. |
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| 01:06.35 | Yamaxanadu | I use to use Ubuntu but it is too bloated and changes so often that things tend to go wrong. |
| 01:07.35 | miwa | well, debian tends to be more stable I think |
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| 01:08.15 | Th0masR0ss | Yamaxanadu: Debian isn't *too* high maintenance. If you check on the machine once a day you should be fine |
| 01:08.40 | paradigmarson | Debian's just honest about maintenance. |
| 01:10.11 | Th0masR0ss | Realistically you shouldn't be neglecting any server running any distro |
| 01:10.35 | qman__ | maintenance is really up to how you want to handle it |
| 01:10.58 | qman__ | if you're not hosting anything open to the internet, while it's not a great idea, going without updates is feasible |
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| 01:11.10 | Yamaxanadu | Hm, once a day? That seems pretty often... I was thinking along the lines of between once a week and once a month. It's main purpose will be to replace my family's DVR, blu ray player, streaming video, downloading videos, etc. |
| 01:11.37 | Yamaxanadu | qman__: I wouldn't go without updates, I'd just limit it to security updates for the most part. |
| 01:12.26 | Th0masR0ss | Yamaxanadu: you can't limit it to only security updates. |
| 01:12.30 | Yamaxanadu | For the server, I could probably run something more secure in a VM but this desktop is pretty low end, it cost about $200 worth of parts when i put it together |
| 01:12.32 | Th0masR0ss | as far as I know |
| 01:12.44 | qman__ | if you want to look at some more extreme cases |
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| 01:13.03 | qman__ | just last year I found that one of the servers at my current job was still vulnerable to the weak SSH key debacle |
| 01:13.15 | qman__ | no one had touched it |
| 01:14.00 | paradigmarson | Yamaxanadu: Can I private-message you? |
| 01:14.07 | Yamaxanadu | yes |
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| 01:19.52 | fenhir | you cant limit to security-updates? |
| 01:20.07 | fenhir | wasnt there a security-repository for that? |
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| 01:21.40 | themill | not easily and it doesn't really make sense to do so |
| 01:21.49 | fenhir | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.26 | fenhir | i think it makes sense |
| 01:22.52 | themill | how? |
| 01:22.55 | fenhir | auto-update from the security-repository... update by hand the others |
| 01:23.34 | Yamaxanadu | fenhir: So if I set Debian Stable to only update from security.debian.org then I assume things won't start breaking and it'll still remain secure? |
| 01:23.48 | fenhir | if its so that on the others there are no security-updates, too, which are not on the security-rep |
| 01:23.58 | themill | Packages are only updated at point-release time (i.e. once every 2 months) and only to address serious bugs or security updates. |
| 01:24.15 | themill | Not all security updates go via security.d.o -- some are delivered via the point release. |
| 01:24.18 | fenhir | Yamaxanadu: that was my thought.... exactly |
| 01:24.52 | fenhir | hm... thats bad |
| 01:25.07 | themill | all you're doing with that sort of configuration setup is creating work for yourself |
| 01:25.08 | Yamaxanadu | ? |
| 01:25.18 | themill | (and with no benefit) |
| 01:25.21 | fenhir | or at least remotely exloitable auto-updating |
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| 01:25.48 | Yamaxanadu | fenhir: It's signed with GPG keys though, isn't it? So it'd be hard to exploit the auto-updating? |
| 01:26.04 | fenhir | not because of that |
| 01:26.14 | fenhir | just what you have said |
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| 01:27.23 | fenhir | auto-updateing real security-threads... where the chance of braking the system automatically is near 0... |
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| 01:28.09 | themill | I still don't see what you're trying to avoid here |
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| 01:28.31 | fenhir | breaking the tystem automatically or staying remotely exploitable |
| 01:28.59 | fenhir | both would be no fun ^^ |
| 01:29.17 | themill | where are you getting this "breaking the system automatically" idea from? |
| 01:29.26 | fenhir | it happens |
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| 01:30.10 | fenhir | last time for me for example in updating gnome |
| 01:30.20 | fenhir | no wait.. only gdm |
| 01:30.50 | qman__ | it's been years since I've had any auto update break anything at all |
| 01:30.52 | fenhir | but ok... not on debian :-) |
| 01:31.00 | qman__ | I've only had things break on full distribution upgrades |
| 01:31.09 | themill | fenhir: exactly. Debian stable doesn't change packages like that. That's the entire point. |
| 01:31.15 | qman__ | I configure all my systems for full automatic updates |
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| 01:31.30 | fenhir | it was linuxmint-debian-edition ^^ |
| 01:31.33 | rourick | hello :) |
| 01:32.18 | rourick | new user here i have ralink5390 wifi, how do i get the firmware? |
| 01:32.18 | qman__ | debian doesn't do major software upgrades within a release |
| 01:32.26 | qman__ | just security and stability patches |
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| 01:32.55 | themill | fenhir: which is (a) not debian and (b) not debian stabnle. |
| 01:33.02 | fenhir | but ok. i just thought security-updates are all in sec.d.o now i know more :-) |
| 01:33.13 | fenhir | themill: ur right |
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| 01:34.26 | themill | rourick: looks like you need the firmware-ralink package from non-free |
| 01:35.06 | rourick | themill: ok ty is that in synaptic ? |
| 01:35.09 | themill | dpkg: tell rourick about non-free sources |
| 01:35.09 | cogito | Hi did anyone see my question? or should i re-post it? |
| 01:35.16 | rourick | im coming from linux mint |
| 01:35.21 | fenhir | but what is the point with http://security.debian.org/ then? |
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| 01:36.12 | themill | rourick: well, you probably need to enable non-free. The easiest way to do this is to edit your /etc/apt/sources.list as dpkg said |
| 01:36.33 | rourick | yes i see now ty, let me try |
| 01:36.34 | rourick | :) |
| 01:36.44 | fenhir | nevermind. i will look for myself |
| 01:38.43 | cogito | Debian Wheezy Lxde in Virtualbox on winXP. I removed nm-applet with synaptic. Powered-off and back on the virtual machine. Now when i use the icon to open the web browser, iceweasel bugs, but when i use the icon to open iceweasel, then it works. Does this mean the removal has made the default browser bug? |
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| 01:39.46 | themill | fenhir: low latency updates of serious security updates for which DSAs are issued. Issues triaged as "low threat" aren't dealt with by the security team but the maintainer may still fix the problem via a point release if the release team agree. |
| 01:39.58 | fenhir | if nobody answers... there is a chance that nobody knows it |
| 01:40.32 | fenhir | themill: ok. thank you |
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| 01:41.57 | rourick | themill: im here, how do i edit it? the edit button is not avail? |
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| 01:42.41 | themill | rourick: that rather depends on where "here" is |
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| 01:43.02 | fenhir | ok, when i've time i configure my system in a way that security-rep-updates are automatically made... and the others automatically if i havent made it by hand for 5 days ^^ |
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| 01:43.27 | themill | something like cron-apt would be simpler |
| 01:43.39 | rourick | software sources, other software, i see the 2 line's where i need 2 add contrib non-free |
| 01:43.43 | rourick | but how? |
| 01:43.44 | rourick | ty |
| 01:44.10 | themill | rourick: In synaptic? Sorry, no clue. I've not used synaptic for about 10 years. |
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| 01:44.38 | rourick | no in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 01:49.39 | fenhir | themill: ok, i set cron-apt on my todo-list. thanks |
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| 01:55.44 | jesther | What's going on people? |
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| 01:57.31 | madmuppet006 | Im trying to get my wireless connection going .. I have written the connection name and key to /etc/network/interfaces and use #ifup wlan0 which appears to work but I have no connection. any ideas on how to go about resolving this thanks |
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| 01:58.55 | madmuppet006 | my /etc/network/interfaces file is at http://pastebin.com/VnmCQ1xs |
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| 01:59.36 | cogito | jesther: Debian Wheezy Lxde in Virtualbox on winXP. I removed nm-applet with synaptic. Powered-off and back on the virtual machine. Now when i use the icon to open the web browser, iceweasel bugs, but when i use the icon to open iceweasel, then it works. Does this mean the removal has made the default browser bug? |
| 02:01.25 | un214 | wow this is obscure |
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| 02:01.39 | un214 | looks like upgrade from wine 1.0 doesn't work right |
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| 02:03.12 | un214 | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=390327 |
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| 02:03.25 | un214 | looks like I'm going to have to build wine from source |
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| 02:03.48 | abrotman | madmuppet006: are you using WEP ? |
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| 02:04.11 | madmuppet006 | abrotman: I am using wireless-tools |
| 02:04.27 | abrotman | madmuppet006: i meant for the AP encryption |
| 02:04.43 | blackwheel | soo I've installed linux-source 3.10, and I'm not sure what the linux-config directory is for |
| 02:04.49 | blackwheel | any ideas? |
| 02:05.27 | blackwheel | I've uncompressed the source file and applied the patch, but after searching online, I'm still not sure what to do with this inux-config directory |
| 02:06.42 | madmuppet006 | abrotman: good question I dont know the answer |
| 02:06.55 | abrotman | important to know |
| 02:07.06 | soyiuz | hey guys anybody have experience compiling vim with --pythoninterpreter enabled |
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| 02:07.23 | madmuppet006 | how would I find out? |
| 02:07.24 | soyiuz | i uncomment the option in /src Makefile |
| 02:07.31 | soyiuz | then make |
| 02:07.37 | abrotman | madmuppet006: it's your AP ? |
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| 02:08.14 | madmuppet006 | its my home connection I want to get rid of a long cable down the corridor |
| 02:08.33 | soyiuz | getting Makefile:45: *** commands commence before first target. Stop. error |
| 02:08.36 | abrotman | madmuppet006: right .. so look at the config in the GUI |
| 02:08.56 | madmuppet006 | ok thanks will do that |
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| 02:09.22 | abrotman | madmuppet006: AIUI, the config you have in your interfaces file is setup for using WEP, not WPA |
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| 02:11.57 | soyiuz | anybody can help compile vim with --pythoninterpreter option on a new debian install? |
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| 02:12.12 | soyiuz | i don't have much experience with make |
| 02:13.15 | soyiuz | i uncomment --enable-pythoninterp in the /src Makefile |
| 02:13.21 | soyiuz | then run make |
| 02:14.12 | soyiuz | which spits out commands commence before first target. Stop. |
| 02:14.15 | soyiuz | error |
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| 02:21.53 | jesther | soyiuz: I wouldn't be messing with makefiles. Those are auto generated using automake. |
| 02:21.56 | themill | soyiuz: many of the vim packages already in debian already have python support enabled |
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| 02:23.49 | madmuppet006 | abrotman: sorry I took so long the security on my router is wpa-psk |
| 02:24.35 | abrotman | madmuppet006: see my last comment |
| 02:24.39 | abrotman | dpkg: tell madmuppet006 about wpa |
| 02:25.20 | madmuppet006 | abrotman: thanks for the help appreciated |
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| 02:32.36 | soyiuz | @jesther how do I build VIM with the python interpreter then? |
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| 02:33.11 | soyiuz | the make file itself instructs to uncomment the python option |
| 02:33.29 | themill | soyiuz: you don't need to... |
| 02:33.59 | jmcnaught | soyiuz: use the vim-nox package, it has support for python compiled in |
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| 02:34.37 | jmcnaught | soyiuz: or install vim-gtk if you'd also like to use GVim |
| 02:35.23 | soyiuz | let me check vim-nox |
| 02:35.47 | soyiuz | i just use vim in the terminal |
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| 02:42.00 | un214 | how long is reasonable for a bug to show up in the tracker these days? |
| 02:43.05 | soyiuz | @jmcnaught @themill thanks guys! |
| 02:43.06 | themill | un214: you mean time between sending the email and getting an ACK from the BTS? 10-15 mins or less is typical. |
| 02:43.12 | soyiuz | vim-nox is what i was looking for |
| 02:43.39 | un214 | just submitted an amusing one involving multiarch |
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| 02:44.36 | abrotman | un214: right, takes 10-15 usually, up to 60 in extreme cases |
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| 02:59.33 | un214 | ah there it goes |
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| 03:24.52 | flukiluke | I'd like to replace a package with my own version built from source, but apt won't let me remove it without getting rid of a whole lot of other packages (it's part of KDE). How do I get around this? |
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| 03:36.07 | mumpitzel | flukiluke: you create a package and don't just install your binary files? |
| 03:36.23 | mumpitzel | flukiluke: you can use equivs but that's the wrong approach |
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| 03:39.20 | flukiluke | mumpitzel: so it's best to create a package of my new version? |
| 03:39.46 | mumpitzel | yes. |
| 03:40.33 | flukiluke | and I just change the version to something higher than the one in the repository? |
| 03:40.44 | mumpitzel | yes |
| 03:40.56 | mumpitzel | and/or put it on hold |
| 03:41.12 | flukiluke | understood. thanks. |
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| 03:52.34 | random34221 | Hello, I'm stuck at one - Debian-/Wheezy-related or GNU/Linux in general - point and I'm asking you as proper "(GNU/Linux Wheezy)" professionals to help me. |
| 03:52.59 | random34221 | Yesterday I messed up my relatively fresh and up-to-date system. Actually, I'm *very* impressed by this OS, but I've spent the whole night trying to get mysql database running. |
| 03:53.19 | random34221 | NOW, I know it's NOT up to mysql or apt or something. Somehow, I can't "su" from root to *ANY* user (!), damn. |
| 03:53.53 | random34221 | I don't know anymore what is more tragic, the database downtime or that I can't ssh to my server to "rescue" my data before an ENTIRE REINSTALL. I had to temporary permit root login for ssh (what a shame!). |
| 03:54.06 | random34221 | Now I ask you for help, otherwise I got to reinstall this system, but I have but much time in configuring and (software-)customizing. PLEASE! |
| 03:54.49 | germs | boot into single user mode or move the disk to another machine and copy your data off of it |
| 03:55.10 | themill | random34221: What happens when you do try "su -"? |
| 03:55.13 | random34221 | so, you prefer reinstall? |
| 03:55.28 | germs | have you tried sudo su - |
| 03:55.34 | random34221 | themill: a yea, I forgot to post that, wait pls. |
| 03:55.54 | germs | I have no idea what you did to your machine, so yeah, you might want to reinstall if it's that messed up and you are without backups |
| 03:56.12 | random34221 | su mysql |
| 03:56.25 | random34221 | Cannot execute /bin/bash: Permission denied |
| 03:56.34 | random34221 | at *every* user |
| 03:57.01 | random34221 | sorry, I debugged the whole night, what does "su -" do? |
| 03:57.13 | random34221 | I *CAN* login as root |
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| 03:58.25 | random34221 | fotunately, but I DON'T want do perform those backupssteps with root via ssh |
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| 03:58.48 | random34221 | I can reinstall it entirely in 1 hour, but I'd like to understand this problem |
| 03:58.53 | Rusty1 | mysql is not a user it is a service, a program, or a group |
| 03:59.18 | random34221 | Rustz1: all right, that was an example |
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| 03:59.43 | nvz | how could i manage makin my default grub or boot state be into suspend mode? for easy charging of other devices since it leaves usb power on in suspend. |
| 03:59.47 | random34221 | I get exactly same message when I login with my user I worked with via ssh 24 hours ago |
| 04:00.03 | random34221 | I also tried to CREATE NEW user -> no success |
| 04:00.03 | themill | random34221: what does "file /bin/bash; ldd /bin/bash; dpkg --print-architecture" give? (please use a pastebin) |
| 04:00.27 | random34221 | of course I checked the actual file permissions -> all right |
| 04:01.07 | random34221 | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 941252 Jan 1 2013 /bin/bash |
| 04:02.13 | random34221 | brb |
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| 04:02.36 | nvz | i basically just want the fastest way to get from poweroff staye to suspend without need to have screen on or type.. heh |
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| 04:05.54 | themill | nvz: I guess you could add in an init script early in rcS.d that does «if grep -q nvzwantstosuspend /proc/cmdline; then pm-suspend; fi» as a starting point... |
| 04:07.20 | themill | (pm-suspend is on /usr so you'll need to have mounted that etc first) |
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| 04:11.19 | random34221 | ok, i got it |
| 04:11.22 | random34221 | http://pastebin.com/KXpAnmhh |
| 04:11.29 | random34221 | in no particular order ;) |
| 04:13.25 | random34221 | I really can't tell what happened, I think to know there were no major changes on the system, just couple reinstalls of mysql-server until I found out it's not a "classic" installation problem... |
| 04:15.34 | random34221 | themill: hope you're still in ;-) |
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| 04:17.07 | random34221 | I've meant, I got the outputs. Problem still exists. Reinstall pending, if I get no solution. |
| 04:17.39 | jarray52 | In general, will changing the title of windows negatively impact the operation of a window manager such as KDE? |
| 04:17.59 | themill | random34221: you say you can log in as root still? |
| 04:18.12 | random34221 | YES, SIR |
| 04:18.17 | jarray52 | I'm planning to use wmctrl to change the window names. |
| 04:18.19 | random34221 | but with root, ONLY :-( |
| 04:19.15 | random34221 | when I (try to) login with "normal" user, I think I see the .profile parsed for a mili-second or so and get put back to the login mask |
| 04:20.56 | themill | random34221: any clues about what you did to get it into this state? chmoding things? replacing files? installing packages? |
| 04:21.01 | random34221 | when I "su myusername" (this user could login 24h ago), but the mysql server suddenly stopped working and I tried to reinstall it, and hours later I realized it no "classic" apt-get install problem, the problem seems to be deeper |
| 04:21.36 | random34221 | chmod-ing YES, but not TOO wild :) |
| 04:21.57 | random34221 | I wrote before that I checked the permissions to /bin/bash |
| 04:22.08 | random34221 | I tried to restore .profile and .bashrc -> no success |
| 04:22.15 | mumpitzel | so what did you chmod? |
| 04:22.43 | random34221 | chmod-ing in /var/www and /home/myusername and *maybe* /home |
| 04:22.58 | random34221 | NOTHING in /bin, I swear :-) |
| 04:23.04 | mumpitzel | create a new user, login as this user |
| 04:23.18 | random34221 | not possible! that's it! |
| 04:23.24 | mumpitzel | if you can, you know it's something your did below /home/ |
| 04:23.32 | random34221 | I was already that "far" |
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| 04:24.00 | mumpitzel | strace a "su <myuser>" then? |
| 04:24.31 | random34221 | no, i don't think, as I said, /var/www only, I installed a "proper" xAMP server and scriped a dozen of sripts and another scripts to backup them |
| 04:24.46 | themill | what's a "proper xAMP server"? |
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| 04:25.10 | random34221 | cool approach, just run "strace su <myuser>" ? |
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| 04:25.41 | mumpitzel | probably won't work since it's the child process (bash) of su that will fail :( |
| 04:26.21 | random34221 | with "proper" I mean "proper" from my view... up-to-date gnu/linux, realively fresh mysql5, php5, php5-mysql ... |
| 04:26.32 | random34221 | from my point of view ;) |
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| 04:26.40 | themill | random34221: from debian packages? not from some other source? |
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| 04:26.57 | random34221 | *.debian.org ONLY! |
| 04:27.19 | random34221 | the stuff from /etc/apt/sources.list, you know... |
| 04:27.21 | themill | and all from wheezy? |
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| 04:27.35 | random34221 | ALL from wheezy |
| 04:27.52 | themill | ok, just checking |
| 04:28.11 | random34221 | I have a perfect LENNY here, but it's too obsolated, so I want a "proper" wheezy and don't want to reinstall |
| 04:28.39 | themill | did you try to upgrade directly from lenny to wheezy? |
| 04:28.49 | random34221 | "proper" also (for me) means multi-service server |
| 04:29.27 | random34221 | I am aware that it's not too smart to put many services on one server, but this server is DEDICATED *TEST* server, just sayin' |
| 04:30.01 | random34221 | no, it was a "fresh" install from a burned iso which I downloaded from a random mirror |
| 04:30.13 | themill | ok |
| 04:30.20 | random34221 | I got wheezy running as CLIENT perfectly, so the installation media is no problem |
| 04:30.22 | themill | got that strace output? |
| 04:30.47 | random34221 | *installing strace* |
| 04:31.29 | random34221 | from ftp.some-country.debian.org |
| 04:31.30 | random34221 | BUT |
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| 04:33.59 | random34221 | brb, the "NOT fully installed mysql-server" is disturbing, gotta apt-get autoremove mysql-* now.. |
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| 04:34.41 | random34221 | this "not fully installed" caused due to inappropriate permission for /bin/bash, I'm 100% sure |
| 04:35.33 | MonkWitDaFunk | Hi #debian |
| 04:35.46 | MonkWitDaFunk | I need help with permissions as well |
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| 04:36.26 | MonkWitDaFunk | I want all users without access to the root to run truecrypt |
| 04:37.24 | random34221 | themill: I got the *proper* strace output |
| 04:37.43 | random34221 | it starts end ends automatically |
| 04:38.06 | random34221 | I did following: strace su myuser 2>/strace.log |
| 04:40.22 | random34221 | do you want me to upload it somewhere? it's pretty *verbose* |
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| 04:44.32 | random34221 | how about another approach? is is possible to recursivelý reset to default permissions in /etc |
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| 04:45.08 | themill | dpkg: tell random34221 about paste |
| 04:45.41 | random34221 | themill: pardon? |
| 04:46.34 | random34221 | sorry ;) |
| 04:50.55 | random34221 | when I "tail -n50 /var/log/syslog", I see "/usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/aslWkD2'" |
| 04:52.22 | theslow1 | I would like to install selinux, without setools, even if I mark it to be on hold, setools is still included in the recommended packages |
| 04:52.49 | theslow1 | what is the proper method to ignore a package (not to include it in an install) |
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| 04:53.07 | theslow1 | My version of debian is wheezy |
| 04:56.57 | themill | theslow1: precisely which package are you trying to install? |
| 04:57.33 | theslow1 | https://wiki.debian.org/SELinux/Setup |
| 04:58.01 | theslow1 | step 2 has the package list, but I am not told How to , not include setools |
| 04:58.31 | jesther | Why wouldn't you want that package? |
| 04:58.34 | themill | theslow1: "aptitude install package-i-want package-i-dont-want_" (not the postfixed _ operator) |
| 04:59.06 | theslow1 | themill, thanks |
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| 05:05.56 | random34221 | eix |
| 05:05.57 | random34221 | exit |
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| 05:58.14 | RealDrProxy | Hello ladies and gents! |
| 05:58.44 | RealDrProxy | Can anyone point me in the right direction in regards to building a fork/derivative? |
| 05:59.06 | RealDrProxy | Was using ubuntu-builder (/vomit), but it has yielded no fruits. |
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| 06:11.44 | mumpitzel | !tell RealDrProxy about custom cd |
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| 06:12.24 | RealDrProxy | Looking to build a LiveCD |
| 06:12.29 | RealDrProxy | My bad, should have specified. |
| 06:12.48 | RealDrProxy | I'll check that out though mempitzel thanks! |
| 06:14.28 | mumpitzel | !tell RealDrProxy about live |
| 06:15.02 | RealDrProxy | I've tried using live as well and it didn't work for me |
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| 06:15.17 | RealDrProxy | Ran into multiple issues and the project is extremely convoluted. |
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| 06:45.02 | testuser3 | hi, the font in virtualbox is too small, but in other programs it is normal, screenshot: http://www10.pic-upload.de/18.08.13/ryvpowh2q1n.png how can i fix this? |
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| 06:47.35 | jesther | testuser3: Could you try using the virtualbox channel? |
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| 06:49.36 | testuser3 | yes but i think the problem is not virtualbox |
| 06:49.52 | jesther | Which is it you think it is? |
| 06:50.40 | testuser3 | i dont know, maybe some xorg settings or something |
| 06:50.52 | jesther | Then try #x or something. |
| 06:51.19 | testuser3 | ok |
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| 07:13.30 | icedtea | whats the debian package for the c library manual pages? |
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| 07:15.52 | jesther | It should be included in man-pages package. |
| 07:15.53 | icedtea | how do I make sure my system is getting all the update packages? I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade correct? |
| 07:16.05 | jesther | Yes. |
| 07:17.06 | icedtea | wow thats the nice thing about running stable, you don't get a bazillion packages to download every day, just security updates and major bug fixes |
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| 07:25.48 | jesther | icedtea: What else about the package management? |
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| 07:26.55 | jesther | icedtea: What else about the package management? |
| 07:27.04 | mumpitzel | icedtea: manpages-dev has them |
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| 07:28.41 | icedtea | mumpitzel: apparently thats already installed by default for wheezy desktops |
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| 07:30.53 | jesther | icedtea: So why bother to ask? |
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| 08:00.01 | LRN | I get corrupted graphics in Gnome shell (mostly shell UI elements, applications look OK). Should i file a bug to freedesktop bugzilla? Which component should i file for? |
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| 08:08.41 | talin | hello |
| 08:09.01 | talin | i just started up an old debian installation, and i am wondering how to update the system and packages? i can't find it in the debian reference? |
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| 08:09.39 | jesther | talin: Follow the guidelines with the version you're using. |
| 08:09.50 | jesther | apt-get is mostly the same in each version. |
| 08:09.55 | talin | jesther: hmm, where can i find those guidelines? |
| 08:10.01 | jesther | homepage. |
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| 08:13.05 | jesther | LRN: What do mean "shell UI?" |
| 08:13.37 | LRN | the black bar at the top, and everything you see when you press "Activities" |
| 08:13.38 | jesther | You might want to config using the Profiles options. |
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| 08:15.25 | LRN | uh...Profiles? |
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| 08:22.57 | andur | using jessie at the moment and it is so rugged |
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| 09:44.08 | pederindi | I tried: debian-7.1.0-i386-lxde-CD-1.iso and debian-live-7.0.0-i386-lxde-desktop.iso expecting to install Debian LXDE without Internet. I can't. It is demanding apt sources, and if I ignore, installation fail. Suggestions? Thanks |
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| 09:46.57 | cheater__ | hi |
| 09:47.38 | cheater__ | i would like to install debian 7.1, but my hosting provider only provides images with 7.0. How does that work - if i install 7.0 and run aptitude dist-upgrade, then will my system nominally be debian 7.1? |
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| 09:54.13 | jesther | pederindi: It should say it's a live-cd in the .iso. |
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| 09:54.39 | jesther | cheater__: I'm guessing that it would automatically update to 7.1 with apt-get update/upgrade. |
| 09:54.42 | f8l | cheater__: Yes. Just make sure to read the release notes. |
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| 09:55.13 | cheater__ | f8l: it seems like any links to 7.1 release notes actually point to 7.0 release notes. |
| 09:55.45 | f8l | cheater__: You can also download from other mirror. |
| 09:55.47 | pederindi | jesther: it say it, it does, but the objective is a installation without network. CD fails in that concept. Perhaps a DVD ? |
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| 09:56.32 | jesther | pederindi: CD-# is considered a repo disc. Live-CD.iso is what you're looking for. |
| 09:56.53 | cheater__ | f8l: well, 7.0 gets support from the hosting provider. |
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| 09:57.15 | cheater__ | to update to 7.1, will i need to add security.debian.org to my sources? |
| 09:57.29 | cheater__ | or did 7.1 take packages from security.debian.org, and put them in the main repository? |
| 09:57.57 | pederindi | jesther: as I said, I tried with a debian-live-7.0.0-i386-lxde-desktop.iso, but the text mode installation fails and demands apt repository |
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| 09:58.20 | jesther | Use the graphical install. |
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| 09:59.34 | jesther | Oh, and it will show that you have network while testing the browser. |
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| 09:59.43 | cheater__ | f8l: to be more precise: if i install from the 7.0 image, i get support. if i don't, i don't. |
| 09:59.46 | pederindi | jesther: X11 segmentation fail (as always). Also, can I try with Live, and try executable installation |
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| 10:00.02 | f8l | cheater__: On stable, you should always have sdo sources. |
| 10:00.12 | jesther | Yes. |
| 10:00.18 | cheater__ | so if i install and change nothing sdo will be in my sources? ok |
| 10:01.55 | f8l | cheater__: 7.0 + dist-upgrade more or less = 7.1 |
| 10:02.01 | cheater__ | k |
| 10:03.58 | pederindi | jesther: Install Debian in Live don't work. This executable is a .desktop file, executing the exec part it says: "no suitable d-i initrd image found, aborting" |
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| 10:04.55 | cheater__ | thanks a lot guys |
| 10:04.57 | jesther | Try reading grub on modprobing your graphics card with the right .ko mod. |
| 10:05.14 | cheater__ | is there any reason not to install 64 bits on the server? |
| 10:05.34 | jesther | Then press [e] to adjust the boot. |
| 10:06.24 | pederindi | jesther: you say it to me ? |
| 10:06.28 | jesther | Yea. |
| 10:06.32 | jesther | *Yes. |
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| 10:06.44 | pederindi | jesther: I don't know why I need this. Is for the graphical installer ? |
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| 10:07.07 | jesther | Normally, graphical install should automatically boot to X with a WM/DE. |
| 10:07.08 | f8l | cheater__: None I know of. |
| 10:08.17 | cheater__ | thanks guys |
| 10:08.20 | cheater__ | you're great help |
| 10:08.49 | jwilliams_ | is there any gnustep helloworld example available? |
| 10:09.37 | Xeph | for me, the graphical installer did work OOTB, while i had to install the nonfree-firmware on the system. otherwhise, X would freeze. is that intended? ;) |
| 10:09.41 | pederindi | jesther: I'm in grub for graphical install. I press e and I see options to start. But I don't know how to modprobe the graphical card |
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| 10:10.13 | hide | Hello. Does anyone have a good how-to on setting up a mysql-cluster "the Debian way"? I mean with .deb packages not compilation, etc.. |
| 10:10.19 | Witchsong | Is it possible to install jessies packages in wheezy? |
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| 10:11.21 | f8l | Witchsong: Yes, but it's not recommended. |
| 10:11.41 | Witchsong | Is it preferable to compile the library in the package instead? |
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| 10:12.10 | pederindi | I'm interested in report bugs about .iso cd's of lxde. how to do that? Thanks |
| 10:12.49 | cheater__ | pederindi: do you want to report a bug you've found, or look at the bugs that have been reported? |
| 10:13.19 | pederindi | cheater__: the problem is that is a bug for a CD/DVD iso, not a software itself |
| 10:13.20 | f8l | Witchsong: I'd try to install it to check if it wants to pull in too many dependencies or not. |
| 10:13.44 | cheater__ | pederindi: i don't know, sorry. |
| 10:13.59 | cheater__ | someone else likely knows. |
| 10:14.11 | f8l | pederindi: Ask in #debian-cd. |
| 10:14.26 | pederindi | f8l: thanks!! |
| 10:14.48 | pederindi | f8l: in freenode ? It is void |
| 10:15.19 | Witchsong | f8l: Okay. I just need to add the jessie source to apt sources to get the package, right? |
| 10:15.42 | f8l | pederindi: Try in OFTC then. |
| 10:16.16 | jesther | pederindi: The graphics doesn't have much to do with it. The drivers don't show up sometimes because of testing. |
| 10:16.18 | f8l | Witchsong: That's the easiest way. |
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| 10:18.36 | pederindi | f8l: I see people at #debian-cd in irc.debian.org, thanks |
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| 10:20.44 | f8l | pederindi: I think it is an alias to OFTC. No problem anyway. ;-) |
| 10:23.51 | ircnode0_ | I am using school computers. I want to logout but later I can resume my work (like hibernation, but just logout). Can I achieve it somehow? |
| 10:24.44 | f8l | ircnode0_: You can lock your session in most setups. |
| 10:24.55 | jesther | ircnode0_: Try looking up "sessions." |
| 10:25.34 | ircnode0_ | I have tried xfce4-session-logout --hibernate, but "Failed to hibernate not authorized" |
| 10:26.17 | ircnode0_ | I got lock computer instead above command. |
| 10:26.36 | f8l | ircnode0_: --hibernate hibernates and you're not in power to do so. (Pun intended.) |
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| 10:29.27 | f8l | ircnode0_: Search for xflock or however the locking program in xfce is called. |
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| 10:29.35 | ircnode0_ | man xflock |
| 10:29.39 | ircnode0_ | sorry |
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| 10:31.26 | ircnode0_ | f8l: This will lock pc and normal students can't login via login-form. That is why I want to save my work and logout, so others can login and I can resume my work later. |
| 10:31.26 | f8l | ircnode0_: You may also want to check for screen locking in keyboard shortcuts. |
| 10:32.34 | f8l | ircnode0_: IIRC you can switch users when the screen is locked. |
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| 10:33.28 | f8l | ircnode0_: I may not be of much help. I haven't used xfce for years. |
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| 10:35.08 | ircnode0_ | f8l: actually switch users is gone ^_^;; Though I have seen it before. |
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| 10:36.07 | ircnode0_ | f8l: Thanks for helping. |
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| 11:23.15 | Maple__ | Quick question: does the "standard" live image come with merely a base? |
| 11:23.35 | Maple__ | In other words, does it come w/o a DE? |
| 11:24.06 | well_laid_lawn | yes |
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| 11:40.06 | asper | can somebody help me with this compile error? https://gist.github.com/aspeteRakete/6256705 |
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| 11:41.49 | pederindi | I also tried DVD-1, there is not any method for install lxde debian without network :( |
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| 12:20.16 | kleanchap | How do you force aptitude to automatically to install the dependency files? |
| 12:20.42 | abrotman | when doing what? |
| 12:20.47 | abrotman | aptitude -f install .. usually |
| 12:21.24 | abrotman | i mean, "aptitude install foo" from an http source should work just fine. |
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| 12:21.52 | kleanchap | Thnx |
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| 12:27.56 | pederindi | anyone install a lxde desktop without internet connection with usb? |
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| 12:28.33 | abrotman | pederindi: there's an ISO for that |
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| 12:29.12 | pederindi | abrotman: I think that I tried all; what ISO is ? |
| 12:29.20 | abrotman | there's an lxde iso |
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| 12:29.39 | abrotman | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.1.0-amd64-lxde-CD-1.iso |
| 12:30.00 | pederindi | abrotman: I tried: debian-7.1.0-i386-DVD-1.iso , debian-7.1.0-i386-lxde-CD-1.iso , debian-live-7.0.0-i386-lxde-desktop.iso |
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| 12:30.21 | nonooo | Hi, i meet problem to enable promiscueus mode on my USB belkin wireless adaptor (Realtek RTL8192CU), I have installed rtl8192cu. iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor show me "SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted". I think that driver or something block the monitor mode. The chipset RTL8192CU does not seem to have a problem with the monitor mode. Someone can help me ? |
| 12:30.35 | abrotman | pederindi: and what? |
| 12:30.52 | abrotman | pederindi: the image I gave you should work |
| 12:31.08 | pederindi | abrotman: in all of this, try to get apt sources, but it can't (obviously), so only can install system utils, after this try installing grub, fial, can't continue... |
| 12:31.21 | abrotman | pederindi: that's not true |
| 12:31.31 | abrotman | it shouhld work just fine without other apt sources .. |
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| 12:32.11 | pederindi | abrotman: try with first repository from country, it can't, so give opportunity to change, if you press "ignore", you can only install system utils |
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| 12:32.39 | pederindi | abrotman: if you try with other apt sources, they will fail (you can't connect to them, network is not configured (skipped)) |
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| 12:32.59 | abrotman | pederindi: perhaps just unplug your network cable completely |
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| 12:33.20 | abrotman | pederindi: how are you preparing the USB stick? |
| 12:33.26 | pederindi | abrotman: is unplugged, and wifi cards (of the laptop) are activated with privative software, so disabled 100% |
| 12:33.35 | pederindi | abrotman: with multisystem |
| 12:33.49 | abrotman | no idea what that is .. sounds like it may not be working right |
| 12:33.57 | pederindi | abrotman: suggestion ? |
| 12:34.07 | abrotman | do you have another linux system availablE? |
| 12:34.24 | pederindi | abrotman: this (Lubuntu 12.10) |
| 12:34.31 | abrotman | !tell pederindi about usb install |
| 12:35.05 | nonooo | anyone can help me ? promisceus mode error on realtek RTL8192CU ? |
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| 12:37.37 | pederindi | abrotman: thanks, I will try this method and report how it goes |
| 12:38.11 | abrotman | pederindi: why doesn't your network work? |
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| 12:40.10 | pederindi | abrotman: here works. But I'm installating GNU/Linux to neighboors for free, and in one case, network was very bad... in other case that was "good", install lxde desktop was 1 hour downloading, I'm trying another methods |
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| 12:41.08 | pederindi | abrotman: in this case is a laptop, but if the computer is more bigger... transport is difficult. The solution of "not depend on the network" is the best |
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| 12:42.02 | abrotman | okay |
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| 12:44.51 | zoplrdb | pederindi, You're installing Linux to neighbours? Why? |
| 12:45.37 | abrotman | why not? |
| 12:45.52 | zoplrdb | But why? |
| 12:46.08 | zoplrdb | ( ._.) ¿why? |
| 12:46.10 | pederindi | zoplrdb: I'm young, and I want to help people and society. This is a good form |
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| 12:46.52 | pederindi | zoplrdb: installing debian also I know new programs that use people... is interesting process |
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| 12:47.13 | zoplrdb | Programs that use people? In soviet russia, PROGRAM USE YOU! |
| 12:47.33 | zoplrdb | hhehhehe |
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| 12:47.57 | jesther | pederindi: That's a lucky thing you got going. |
| 12:48.02 | zoplrdb | How many have you installed so far? |
| 12:48.14 | jesther | Sometimes it's quicker to think before you do things. |
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| 12:48.32 | zoplrdb | What is the success rate? As in, how many people stick with Linux after finding out it isn't a clone of Windows? |
| 12:48.42 | abrotman | points at #debian-offtopic |
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| 12:51.24 | pederindi | zoplrdb: The important point is not how many installations, is how many people have questions about the system (because is telling you that is using GNU/Linux Debian). I have 2 (really happy with it), and I'm going to the third |
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| 12:52.04 | jesther | So basically, your question is based about interconnecting 2 machines. |
| 12:52.20 | bullgard4 | What does the /run/network/ifstate entry "lo=lo" mean? |
| 12:52.36 | pederindi | jesther: no no, is install basic LXDE Debian without internet connection |
| 12:53.02 | pederindi | jesther: now I'm trying the method of abrotman, described in http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 (based on directly cp ) |
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| 12:54.41 | jesther | You won't have internet connection, but at least you'll have the apps. Just grab the .isos and place in 32 GB sticks. Max fill might need 2 32 GBs. |
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| 12:56.26 | zoplrdb | Why are you installing LXDE? That is sub-par to KDE. |
| 12:56.52 | pederindi | jesther: is for optimization. To this neighboors also I can provide with internet connection with guifi.net (community wireless network) |
| 12:57.10 | jesther | Sure. |
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| 12:58.52 | pederindi | zoplrdb: in my opinion 90% of people want to change to GNU/Linux because windows goes slow... LXDE uses few RAM and have great usability, is similar to WinXP basics (but with the great support of Debian distribution), the change is smooth, and I liked in the past, now I use i3wm, but this is not for windows users. |
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| 13:00.40 | l_f | Hey, I just installed wheezy over a netbook install, and I somehow managed to install it with no users. What should I do to fix this? |
| 13:00.46 | l_f | netboot* |
| 13:01.21 | l_f | I tried logging in as root with no password, but that didn't work |
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| 13:02.22 | pederindi | l_f: if is a new installation, install again, and define users and root better |
| 13:02.22 | nkuttler | !tell l_f about i forgot root's password |
| 13:02.56 | Aster | Hi there. I've been trying to set up a network for a few virtual machines (VMs and host running Debian 7.1), and assign an IP to each VM. However, no matter how much I try to do this, the VM always takes the IP of the host, and when pinging the IP designated to the VM, I just get "Reply from <host ip>: Destination host unreachable". |
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| 13:04.11 | Aster | I've been following this: http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/KVM_mit_Nutzung_aller_IPs_aus_Subnetz/en |
| 13:04.28 | Aster | If this isn't the right channel, I'd be glad to know where else to go. |
| 13:04.35 | l_f | nkuttler I did not even set root password |
| 13:04.46 | nkuttler | l_f: still |
| 13:04.55 | nkuttler | Aster: hetzner support? |
| 13:05.27 | Aster | nkuttler: U need this set up by tomorrow morning, and as far as I know, support is only on working days for them. |
| 13:05.31 | Aster | s/U/I/ |
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| 13:05.57 | l_f | nkuttler: excellent thank you |
| 13:07.03 | Aster | nkuttler: also, I'm sure my IP routing problem isn't somethign they'll deal with. |
| 13:07.14 | nkuttler | Aster: well, that document is outdated |
| 13:07.25 | nkuttler | Aster: oh, i'm pretty sure they'll be happy to charge you for support |
| 13:07.35 | nonooo | Hi, i meet problem to enable promiscueus mode on my USB belkin wireless adaptor (Realtek RTL8192CU), I have installed rtl8192cu driver's. When i write in console "iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor" result is "SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted". I think that driver or something block the monitor mode. The chipset RTL8192CU does not seem to have a problem with the monitor mode. |
| 13:07.35 | nonooo | Someone can help me ? |
| 13:07.35 | nkuttler | Aster: anyway, if you have a more specific question feel free to ask |
| 13:07.50 | Aster | nkuttler: well, what's outdated about that tutorial? |
| 13:08.02 | nkuttler | Aster: it's for lenny |
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| 13:08.13 | Aster | nkuttler: has that much changed since? |
| 13:08.17 | Aster | nonooo: run it as root? |
| 13:08.34 | nonooo | yes |
| 13:08.37 | nkuttler | Aster: i don't know, just pointing it out. and like i said, try asking a specific question |
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| 13:09.06 | nkuttler | Aster: e.g. which step of the process went wrong, paste *all* relevant info, etc, use paste.debian.net |
| 13:09.09 | nonooo | Aster : yes |
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| 13:09.58 | pederindi | abrotman: with the cp method appears me "grub rescue", and with grub-install /dev/sdX : /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for sdX ( I selected correctly my sdX, I tried with general disk and also with the particular partition) |
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| 13:10.19 | Aster | nonooo: so.. does that mean you're running the command as root? |
| 13:10.28 | tuxIO | hi! |
| 13:10.55 | nonooo | Aster yes i run cmd in root |
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| 13:11.28 | Aster | nonooo: are you entirely sure? If so, I have no idea. |
| 13:11.53 | jesther | pederindi: You should have /boot in a separate partition. |
| 13:12.10 | jesther | Also, ext2. |
| 13:12.12 | nonooo | i'm asking if driver allow monitor mode, i have read on forum that rtlwifi firmware can abstruct the rtl Realtek firmware but no found more infos :( |
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| 13:13.25 | pederindi | jesther: partition is FAT32 |
| 13:13.48 | jesther | Hmm. |
| 13:15.05 | l_f | Any suggestions as to why gdm is saying all my passwords are invalid |
| 13:15.36 | Nik05 | l_f and you log into tty ? |
| 13:15.43 | l_f | Yes |
| 13:15.43 | pederindi | jesther: I will format again with FAT32 |
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| 13:15.48 | mtn | l_f: caps lock key? |
| 13:15.48 | mumpitzel | pederindi: you copied debian to a fat32 partition? |
| 13:15.56 | Nik05 | l_f do you use symbols? |
| 13:16.02 | l_f | Nope |
| 13:16.07 | jesther | Well, FAT32 isn't normal but it shouldn't be used. It's still positive to hold the kernel in /boot in a separate partition though. |
| 13:16.07 | l_f | the password is 'laptop' |
| 13:16.08 | pederindi | mumpitzel: I readed that is necessary to make it bootable |
| 13:16.13 | l_f | username is laptop |
| 13:16.39 | mumpitzel | pederindi: what is the exact command you are using to copy the debian.iso to the usb stick? |
| 13:16.55 | jesther | pederindi: Your drives won't be fully recognized if over 128 GB with FAT32. |
| 13:17.01 | DrOwl | Hi all, i am having a problem with a USB audio device... It is showing up as a source but not as a sink |
| 13:17.02 | mumpitzel | pederindi: what are you doing in the first place, cause debian installation media doesn't do anything at all with grub or grub rescue |
| 13:17.24 | pederindi | # cp debian.iso /dev/sdb |
| 13:17.32 | l_f | without quotes |
| 13:17.41 | pederindi | mumpitzel: jesther: and I see that in gparted partition is corrupted after this |
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| 13:17.56 | jesther | Of course. |
| 13:18.01 | pederindi | jesther: I format in ext2 ? |
| 13:18.13 | mumpitzel | pederindi: after doing that cp command, your usb stick is done and working |
| 13:18.24 | mumpitzel | pederindi: just use it to boot from and you will be fine |
| 13:18.33 | mumpitzel | pederindi: your don't format anything at all |
| 13:18.55 | pederindi | it will serve a non formatted space ? |
| 13:19.05 | l_f | Nik05, mtn any clues |
| 13:19.11 | jesther | is shoveled |
| 13:19.11 | mumpitzel | pederindi: yes |
| 13:19.14 | Nik05 | no... :S |
| 13:19.31 | mtn | l_f: no root login either? |
| 13:19.33 | Nik05 | maybe it using a other keyboard layout |
| 13:19.44 | l_f | Right |
| 13:19.53 | l_f | root password is also laptop |
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| 13:20.11 | mtn | l_f: there are ways to change passwords using a live disk. you can search for them. or reinstall. |
| 13:20.25 | l_f | I can login via vtty |
| 13:21.00 | mtn | l_f: I am not familiar with that. |
| 13:21.13 | l_f | Maybe there is something I have to add to gdm config files |
| 13:21.36 | l_f | as soon as I added user laptop though, it showed up in gdm |
| 13:22.06 | mtn | l_f: doesn't make much sense. maybe the gdm config file is corrupted. |
| 13:22.24 | l_f | Most likesly |
| 13:23.08 | l_f | hm |
| 13:23.15 | l_f | gdmsetup command not found |
| 13:23.51 | mtn | l_f: maybe you should reinstall gdm. |
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| 13:24.42 | l_f | note to self never install via mini.iso again |
| 13:26.20 | pederindi | mumpitzel: the cp method cannot contain more partitions in the USB... :/ |
| 13:27.40 | mumpitzel | pederindi: what do you need to put on the usb stick? |
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| 13:58.21 | wiseeebou | hello, I'm encoding some DVD in x264 with avidemux but the pictures are not steady. Does anyone have knowledge in x264 ? I know it's debian channel but maybe someone can help me |
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| 14:02.21 | movl | wiseeebou, try #x264 |
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| 14:07.29 | wiseeebou | because it's opensource |
| 14:07.37 | wiseeebou | movl, I already tried |
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| 14:24.05 | mkad | Hi |
| 14:24.11 | mkad | how to use xapt ? |
| 14:24.21 | mkad | can I somehow download gcc-4.8 for Cortex M4 ? |
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| 14:28.20 | musca | ,info xapt |
| 14:28.21 | judd | Package xapt (devel, optional) in wheezy/i386: retrieve, build and install libraries for cross-compiling. Version: 2.2.19; Size: 69.3k; Installed: 266k; Homepage: http://www.emdebian.org/crush/ |
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| 14:28.27 | musca | !emdebian |
| 14:28.28 | dpkg | Emdebian is a binary distribution for embedded devices. It is created by the Embedded Debian project, an official Debian sub-project, which aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded projects. http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian http://www.emdebian.org/ #emdebian on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 14:29.15 | musca | mkad: perhaps the channel #emdebian on irc.oftc.net |
| 14:30.24 | mkad | musca, its empty |
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| 14:30.58 | musca | i'm in it with 43 others |
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| 14:32.47 | pederindi | abrotman: jesther: mumpitzel: it was true, the problem was the multisystem software for ISO to USB. With the command cp, in a usb of 4GB (no other partitions). Debian LXDE works... I have installed one without internet. Thanks for the help ^.^ |
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| 14:53.09 | linduxed | how would i check whether sshd will be run after boot, without rebooting to check? |
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| 14:54.02 | pederindi | how to set repositories if I don't do this in the installation ? (can I do with the same GUI as installation?? Per countries, and after this select from the list ? ) |
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| 14:55.08 | pederindi | linduxed: I think ssh start automatically every boot |
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| 14:55.42 | MrS1lentcz | hello, what packages do I need to install for jpg support, please? |
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| 14:56.33 | linduxed | pederindi: i'm pretty sure of that too, but i want a list of things that it will run at boot |
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| 15:04.20 | pederindi | ok, software-properties-gtk ... and in terminal ? |
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| 15:13.32 | bcdonadio | My laptop with Wheezy isn't powering off after halting (even using poweroff -p), and adding "acpi=force" on the kernel command line didn't help. What can I do to make this laptop power off nicely? |
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| 15:14.37 | bcdonadio | the system indeed reaches "System halted", so the shutdown is clean, but I need to hold the power button for 4 secs to power off |
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| 15:16.42 | clava | looking game of thrones |
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| 15:36.22 | gnarface | anyone happen to know how, when recording a screencast using avconv or ffmpeg, to include the game audio without pulse? |
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| 15:43.22 | blubberdiblub | gnarface, many sound cards have a capture source that's called something like "Mix". when you record from that source, you record all audio. apart from that, i'm sure alsa can somehow be configured to create another source for recording, even if the card doesn't have one natively. after all, alsa is quite versatile (just not particularly easy to configure) |
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| 15:54.30 | Pres-Gas | Anyone using github and have they ever ran into the strange glyphs in iceweasel? |
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| 15:56.37 | phogg | Pres-Gas: strange glyphs usually indicates that your font has insufficient unicode support |
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| 15:57.41 | Pres-Gas | phogg, any suggested packages as standard to install? |
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| 15:58.01 | Pres-Gas | I will admit this is the only site that I see rendering strangely like that |
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| 15:59.32 | musca | mkad: 4.8.1 is in sid, so "simple sid backport" |
| 15:59.38 | musca | !ssb |
| 15:59.38 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 16:04.48 | ulmer | hi I have a problem with java sdk: |
| 16:05.14 | ulmer | Error: Could not create the Java Virtual Machine. |
| 16:05.14 | ulmer | Error: A fatal exception has occurred. Program will exit." |
| 16:05.36 | ulmer | by type java -v |
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| 16:09.03 | L-sama | oooooh |
| 16:09.07 | L-sama | ouch |
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| 16:09.21 | L-sama | ubuntu dont install synaptic per default anymore |
| 16:09.32 | L-sama | think imma switch to debian then |
| 16:09.47 | L-sama | can we install the ubuntu software center in debian? |
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| 16:11.17 | musca | debian has synaptic in its repos, but don't ask me what "ubuntu software center" is. |
| 16:12.09 | L-sama | as I though |
| 16:12.48 | L-sama | I like to use it as 2nd package management |
| 16:13.01 | cristiancv | hello im using debian wheezy with postfix and dovecot, im trying tu using both with ldap, my mail.log show me this error: postfix/master[3638]: warning: process /usr/lib/postfix/qmgr pid 4574 exit status 1 |
| 16:13.04 | musca | ulmer: Unrecognized option: -v |
| 16:13.07 | zmode | L-sama: i have a mint machine that offers synaptic. are you sure it's not there? |
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| 16:13.21 | musca | ulmer: try java -version |
| 16:13.23 | L-sama | its in ubuntu still, but its not default anymore |
| 16:13.27 | cristiancv | how can i solve? please help me |
| 16:13.29 | L-sama | you need to get it |
| 16:13.35 | ulmer | musca: ok thx |
| 16:13.46 | L-sama | and i using synaptic as main package manager |
| 16:13.54 | ulmer | works |
| 16:15.04 | zmode | L-sama: so what is the problem? |
| 16:15.08 | musca | ulmer: "java" (without option!) presented this solution :) |
| 16:15.24 | L-sama | I dont like that ubuntu pulling too far from its debian roots |
| 16:15.33 | L-sama | im mostly using the debian stuff under it |
| 16:15.59 | L-sama | had to reinstall gnome, then work to get my administration stuff menu |
| 16:16.07 | L-sama | run after synaptic |
| 16:16.10 | L-sama | etc |
| 16:16.17 | cristiancv | hola |
| 16:16.18 | ulmer | musca: nice one :) |
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| 16:18.01 | mkad | musca, M4 does not run Linux |
| 16:18.06 | mkad | musca, its microcontroler |
| 16:18.10 | mkad | musca, I need crosscompiler |
| 16:18.28 | ulmer | by start eclips is cpu-usage ~99% by java.. |
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| 16:19.26 | musca | mkad: discussion goes on in #emdebian |
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| 16:20.43 | musca | ulmer: yeah, you better use a fat machine for eclipse. |
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| 16:24.07 | ulmer | it is lenovo (must run) the Problem was by the workspace folder |
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| 16:26.01 | Paradux | I am having an issue with starting GParted from CLI |
| 16:26.11 | Paradux | Debian 7 stable xfce4 |
| 16:26.27 | bazhang | gparted is graphical |
| 16:26.36 | Paradux | I know, but I can start the GUI from CLI |
| 16:26.39 | Paradux | *cant |
| 16:26.54 | Paradux | When I run: sudo gparted, I get this: (gpartedbin:4858): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0 |
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| 16:28.18 | ulmer | better use gksu |
| 16:28.19 | mumpitzel | Paradux: you must run X to start gparted. or you can run parted for a console version |
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| 16:29.46 | Paradux | ah I see, that worked |
| 16:29.51 | Paradux | ty mumpitzel |
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| 16:53.44 | DarthExpeditor | OK, So I have a fun one. I am trying to install ruby and it is missing dependancies but when I try to install the deps it is missing ruby |
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| 16:55.38 | zykotick9 | DarthExpeditor: please keep ubuntu issues in #ubuntu |
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| 16:56.55 | blochchain | why does the liveCD page list 7 different iso's? |
| 16:56.59 | blochchain | do i only need one? |
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| 16:58.29 | zykotick9 | blochchain: if you have a wired network connection during install, all you really need is tiny netinst cd. but yes, the CD1s will typically give you most of what you need. |
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| 17:00.59 | lawltoad | I have a problem with pkg-config.... Its returning results not in line with the *.pc file .... is it caching? should i prompt a rescan? |
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| 17:03.03 | tiss | hello |
| 17:03.11 | tiss | i resized and moved some partitions of gparted |
| 17:03.33 | tiss | after the operation, my laptop started making a strange noise |
| 17:03.43 | tiss | its an ssd so that shouldnt be the cause |
| 17:03.47 | tiss | its kind of a clicking noise |
| 17:03.51 | tiss | comes in 1 second or so intervals |
| 17:03.56 | tiss | what could be the reason |
| 17:04.08 | ZIPY | is there a sopcast player for debian? |
| 17:04.10 | ZIPY | in repo |
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| 17:09.56 | fenhir_ | really a ssd? |
| 17:09.59 | fenhir_ | or hybrid? |
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| 17:10.19 | tiss | yes its an ssd, and like i said the noise is not coming from that direction |
| 17:10.28 | linduxed | i've got an extended partition which contains one small LVM partition and a lot of unallocate space |
| 17:10.34 | Nik05 | then check where it is coming from... |
| 17:10.35 | tiss | furthermore the sound only comes when i've booted into linux |
| 17:10.44 | tiss | fuck thiss |
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| 17:10.57 | Nik05 | lol |
| 17:10.57 | fenhir | else the mostly only mechanical thing in a laptop is the cooler |
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| 17:11.20 | linduxed | i want to increase the size of this LVM partition, but when i do "sudo resize2fs /dev/the-lvm-partition 123G" then it doesn't work |
| 17:11.33 | fenhir | look at the themperatures/cooler-rpm |
| 17:11.42 | Nik05 | fenhir he is gone... |
| 17:11.45 | Nik05 | 19:10 < tiss> fuck thiss |
| 17:11.46 | Nik05 | 19:10 -!- tiss [~Valle@cs138240.pp.htv.fi] has left #debian ["Leaving"] |
| 17:11.58 | fenhir | ok ^^ |
| 17:12.06 | linduxed | is there some way to increase the size of the lvm partition or do i have to delete it then create a new one there again? |
| 17:12.11 | fenhir | maybe a "tick" too much ^^ |
| 17:12.20 | linduxed | (containing all the unallocated space) |
| 17:12.31 | fenhir | click |
| 17:12.54 | fenhir | linduxed: its quite easy |
| 17:13.04 | fenhir | moment |
| 17:13.34 | fenhir | iirc i did test it with /usr/bin/system-config-lvm |
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| 17:14.38 | fenhir | just changed the size. iirc the filesystem is adjustet automatically... but if not.. to do it by hand is quite easy, too for ext3/4 |
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| 17:15.02 | fenhir | oh... but to a backup before playing with it;-) |
| 17:15.09 | fenhir | do |
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| 17:16.59 | fenhir | oh wait... if you mean a lv in an lvm... but increasing the whole lvm is easy, too... thats what it is made for ;-) |
| 17:18.05 | fenhir | a bit more tricky is it if the lvm is made on encrypted pvs |
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| 17:19.29 | james41382 | I want to have a dual boot system here with all the partitions on one hard drive. I purchased a second hard drive and I want to move the partition for debian to the new hard drive and configure it so that I can boot it from the bios. Is this possible? |
| 17:20.10 | fenhir | should be |
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| 17:20.27 | fenhir | backup, too |
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| 17:21.24 | fenhir | if its a bigger/smaller partition to copy to... "fsarchiver" is nice for that... and you have a backup then |
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| 17:22.51 | sharky | james41382, yes it is possible, on your primary bootable hard drive you need to have a boot manager such as grub or lilo and in that manager you can configure where your bootable partitions are |
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| 17:24.02 | Krigsforbryter | Hello, i have problem with the RAID1 on my server after one of the disk crash for a week ago. I have get it to rebuild 3 of 4 raids, but the last have give me some problems. /proc/mdstat tell me "md3 : active raid1 sdb4[1] sda4[2](S) 1822442815 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [_U]". How can i get him to remove the (s) and sync the disks? |
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| 17:25.51 | james41382 | sharky: I was thinking I would like to be able to simply press F12 at boot and have the bios boot from the second hard drive. So grub would be installed on sdb, but I'm unsure of how to reconfigure the OS once I copy the partition over to the new hard drive. |
| 17:25.51 | fenhir | deja vu? |
| 17:26.42 | fenhir | james41382: mayby the fstab. encryped partition? |
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| 17:27.43 | sharky | james41382, well I think that is also possible to manually choose from bios which hard drive to start |
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| 17:30.16 | sharky | james41382, I think you don't need to reconfigure just copy it with tool like fsarchive or some backup imaging tool, then in worst case you need to repair grub with something like update-grub or so |
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| 17:30.23 | veev | looks like dict-de-en (Chemnitz dictionary in main archive) doesn't even have the word "consider" in it. Only "considers". |
| 17:30.36 | james41382 | fenhir: So once I copy the partition over to the new drive I should edit the fstab there and change the sda entries to sdb? Okay that sounds simple enough. I have /boot being mounted from a usb drive. I think I'll need to do some reconfiguration there too. |
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| 17:31.01 | sponzor | hi. how to check network load by samba transfer? i want to see how much packets are recived/transmited per IP. |
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| 17:31.59 | sharky | james41382, try first without changing to sdb |
| 17:32.17 | fenhir | james41382: yes, for example.. or you change the fstab-entries to LABEL... for the next time |
| 17:33.06 | sharky | james41382, when you choose the second hard from bios and boot from it the os will assign it as sda, and when you mount your first it will become sdb i think, but not 100% sure |
| 17:33.10 | fenhir | or after a backub and before the copy |
| 17:33.44 | fenhir | and sharky may be right |
| 17:34.01 | fenhir | it depends ^^ |
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| 17:34.50 | sharky | when you boot from usb, your main dev is sda, no? even that its not primary hard |
| 17:35.02 | fenhir | or change all to LABEL-entries before the copy... in fstab, in grub... then you can copy where you want.. it should be found then |
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| 17:35.48 | james41382 | Okay this is good advice. My fiance just woke up so I better go. =] Talk later.. I get the new drive on Wednesday. |
| 17:36.00 | fenhir | theoretically ;-) so backup |
| 17:36.50 | sharky | james41382, have fun with your girl |
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| 17:44.43 | sharky | james41382, that with the usb was not right, just tested, booted from usb and it is assigned sdb1, so the order from bios is preserved |
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| 18:11.02 | useless420 | hello room |
| 18:11.09 | mumpitzel | !room |
| 18:11.09 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
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| 18:11.47 | useless420 | i am trying to make a live CD of a non-gui server install |
| 18:11.53 | useless420 | how would i go about that |
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| 18:13.12 | mumpitzel | !tell useless420 about live |
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| 18:16.16 | useless420 | no, i have server install set up in virtual box, i need to take the install as is and run it from a USB drive |
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| 18:17.11 | mumpitzel | copy it over then via various means. e.g. dd would work (depending on partition sizes |
| 18:17.27 | sharky | or fsarchiver |
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| 18:25.50 | fenhir | why do you say then you want to make a cd? |
| 18:26.03 | useless420 | a bootable iso |
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| 18:26.17 | useless420 | to boot from a USB drive |
| 18:26.23 | fenhir | there are programs for that, yes |
| 18:26.35 | useless420 | but no GUI |
| 18:26.51 | fenhir | make a bootable iso out of an installation |
| 18:27.07 | useless420 | how |
| 18:27.11 | fenhir | search |
| 18:27.27 | fenhir | iirc something like "remaster-sys" |
| 18:27.36 | fenhir | but i could be wrong |
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| 18:28.00 | useless420 | its my understanding that remsater makes a desktop |
| 18:28.05 | epsilon | other way is using an existing live-CD project, which offers howto to create an iso |
| 18:28.20 | fenhir | to use a bootable iso to boot it from usb... is another problem then |
| 18:28.27 | epsilon | you can ad own packages, files conf... and build iso of it |
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| 18:29.43 | fenhir | ford.. i just know, there is at least one program for your need. i dont know if it needs a gui... i think it is something with "remaster".. but i am not sure... conclusion: search |
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| 18:30.23 | fenhir | iirc i have fould it in the ubuntu-de-wiki... so search there |
| 18:30.28 | mel- | Hello |
| 18:30.28 | fenhir | found |
| 18:30.30 | mumpitzel | !remaster |
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| 18:31.36 | fenhir | google: linux "howto make a cd out of a installed system" |
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| 18:33.40 | KSid | Hello, my host currently provides a kernel as a bzImage with a matching System.map |
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| 18:33.58 | mel- | I'm rather new to Debian. From other systems I am used to the behaviour that when a network interface uses DHCP, the system obtains nameserver information from DHCP also. Debian seems to not do that. Can I enable this somehow? |
| 18:34.17 | KSid | When building a custom kernel, should I be using 'make bzImage' or 'make deb-pkg'? |
| 18:34.33 | fenhir | it is an option |
| 18:34.49 | fenhir | mel-: you |
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| 18:34.58 | littleluis | Hi. I was hoping someone might be able to help me get my wireless and sound working on my hp pavilion dv4000. For wifi I've so far install firmware-b43-installer, but when I do "iwlist scan" I get "wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down" |
| 18:35.14 | mel- | fenhir: ? |
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| 18:35.49 | fenhir | mel-: and no... my debian gets the nameserver from dhcp by default... but iirc there is an option to turn it off |
| 18:36.12 | blubberdiblub | littleluis, try: ifconfig wlan0 up ; iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 18:36.14 | ompaul | fenhir: you turn it off in the broadcast |
| 18:36.14 | mumpitzel | littleluis: ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 18:36.19 | mel- | i want to turn it on :-/ |
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| 18:37.02 | ompaul | fenhir: i.e. stop it in your dhcpd.conf |
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| 18:37.15 | Henric | I need help. I wanna install Debian 7.1.0 on my Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E530c (64bit). Im using an USB drive but I cant boot from it. I installed debian via unetbootin. I dont quite understand about (U)EFI. |
| 18:37.19 | fenhir | ompaul: not for me... for mel :-) |
| 18:37.33 | ompaul | fenhir: ah L( |
| 18:38.28 | ompaul | mel-: dhcpd.conf has that server setting, or you can add a server to resolv.conf in /etc |
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| 18:39.33 | stoffLer | hey, how much ram i need for a simple mysql server installation doing a website sql service with small use? |
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| 18:40.02 | mel- | weird. after a reboot it magically works.... |
| 18:40.05 | mel- | thanks anyway |
| 18:40.10 | fenhir | this gnome-network-applet has an otion for it, too... iirc |
| 18:40.22 | nkuttler | stoffLer: the more the better |
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| 18:40.36 | mel- | fenhir: somehow i cannot edit anything as a user through gnome-network-applet |
| 18:40.42 | fenhir | "have you tried to turn it off and on again? ;-) |
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| 18:40.50 | stoffLer | thats not what i want to hear :D |
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| 18:42.38 | fenhir | stoffLer: it depends... a home server: so 64Mb may be enough... the database-installation of google need a bit more |
| 18:42.48 | mel- | btw, the debian installer in testing has a serious bug: when you setup an encrypted LVM for your system and reboot after successful installation, the installed system is unbootable. the installer forgets to install the lvm2 package on the target system. |
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| 18:43.12 | stoffLer | thats why i was talking about a server with small use... |
| 18:43.13 | stoffLer | ;) |
| 18:43.16 | stoffLer | but thx |
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| 18:44.17 | fenhir | sorry, i cant see in the future, what you want to do. ;-) just try and error... you will see, when you need more |
| 18:44.34 | fenhir | but nkuttler is right... the more the better ^^ |
| 18:45.49 | fenhir | and hey... with that "xyz KB of RAM should be enough"... other people where wrong, too ^^ |
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| 18:47.46 | littleluis | blubberdiblub: mumpitzel: sorry for my late response, but ifconfig wlan0 up does not resolve the issue; still "Network is down" on iwconfig wlan0 scan |
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| 18:48.36 | Galvik | littleluis, maybe something is broken when loading b43 firmware, check with dmesg |
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| 18:49.53 | littleluis | Galvik: I don't notice any errors :( |
| 18:50.37 | littleluis | [ 20.269530] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4318 WLAN found (core revision 9) |
| 18:51.04 | mumpitzel | littleluis: run iwconfig |
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| 18:52.26 | littleluis | mumpitzel: wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:off/any \ Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=0 dBm \ Retry long limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off\ Encryption key:off\ Power Management:on |
| 18:52.43 | littleluis | that seems like a good sign? |
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| 18:54.39 | Galvik | littleluis, what is the output of "iwlist scan" |
| 18:54.40 | Galvik | ? |
| 18:55.23 | littleluis | Galvik: wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down |
| 18:55.43 | littleluis | (for lo and eth0 "Interface doesn't support scanningn") |
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| 18:57.55 | Galvik | littleluis, try to remove and reload the b43 module |
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| 18:58.15 | Galvik | littleluis, rmmod b43 && modprobe b43 |
| 18:58.30 | nNa | I have a question about locales... If I create a new locale (for example en_SI) and I set LC_MESSAGES to copy en_US in the locale file, will it search for en_SI or en_US? |
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| 18:59.24 | littleluis | Galvik: no difference in iwlist scan output after that command |
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| 19:00.06 | Galvik | littleluis, maybe you need to bring up wlan0 before scan on module reload |
| 19:00.13 | Galvik | littleluis, try again with ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 19:00.29 | bullgard4 | What does the /run/network/ifstate entry "lo=lo" mean? |
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| 19:00.59 | littleluis | Galvik: it works!! WOOHOO!! thanks dude |
| 19:01.55 | mumpitzel | bullgard4: that the interface with the name "lo" is the loopback interface |
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| 19:04.26 | bullgard4 | mumpitzel: Thank you very much for your help. |
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| 19:14.42 | jawr | hey, it looks like i have a compromised openssh-server (fails checksum), how to reinstall? |
| 19:14.51 | jawr | i tried clearing the package cache and doing |
| 19:14.59 | jawr | apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server |
| 19:15.02 | jawr | to no avail |
| 19:15.46 | tvm | jawr: how did you clean package cache ? |
| 19:16.17 | jawr | apt-get clean |
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| 19:20.40 | sharky | jawr, you can remove it first then install it again |
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| 19:22.39 | Cyclohexane | how do i allow a user write access to /var/www? |
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| 19:24.38 | Cyclohexane | nevermind, had to logout |
| 19:25.10 | jawr | was bit worried about that sharky cheers |
| 19:25.12 | jawr | sorted |
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| 19:25.33 | ollie_ | Is there any way I can install nginx 1.4 on debian wheezy? |
| 19:26.00 | mumpitzel | ollie_: it's already in backports |
| 19:26.05 | mumpitzel | !tell ollie_ about backports |
| 19:26.16 | sharky | jawr, nice |
| 19:26.43 | ollie_ | thank you mumpitzel :) |
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| 19:29.56 | tremon | is there a way to build only a specific binary package from a source package? afaict dpkg-buildpackage you can only filter arch or indep |
| 19:30.19 | jawr | sthere is one package still failing though: |
| 19:30.19 | jawr | /lib/modules/2.6.35.5/kernel/drivers/block/loop.ko FAILED |
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| 19:36.05 | sharky | jawr, that is kernel module, do you use custom kernel, where do you get that error message |
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| 19:36.52 | jawr | debsums | egrep -v OK |
| 19:37.07 | jawr | no custom kernel |
| 19:38.10 | Guest56894 | what is the simplest program for recording video from my old vcr tapes? |
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| 19:39.42 | mumpitzel | Guest56894: tvtime |
| 19:40.12 | sharky | jawr, it is not so big deal, you won't be able to mount isos or so, if that module failed you probably don't have the /dev/loop device, do you? |
| 19:40.47 | sharky | jawr, http://www.brudenossg.com/tip4.php |
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| 19:41.14 | Guest56894 | mumpitzel, how can I record with tvtime? |
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| 19:42.23 | mumpitzel | Guest56894: sorry. I was mistaken :( |
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| 19:43.37 | phantomcircuit | i have a laptop which has both integrated intel video and an nvidia card |
| 19:44.01 | phantomcircuit | when i boot from a usb drive in uefi mode initially i see the install menu |
| 19:44.14 | phantomcircuit | but when i select any of the options the screen is just blank |
| 19:44.49 | phantomcircuit | im guessing that the video is being sent to the nvidia card when the intel video is actually displaying |
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| 19:46.16 | phantomcircuit | oh when booting in "legacy" boot mode everything looks right |
| 19:46.23 | phantomcircuit | but im trying to setup dial boot with windows 8 |
| 19:46.31 | phantomcircuit | which doesn't work in legacy mode |
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| 19:52.41 | Will_Tampa | phantomcircuit: why doual boot??/ Oracle VB it...... |
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| 19:58.25 | thesadmafioso | anyone know which repos should contain irssi-plugin-otr or how to find out? |
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| 20:01.03 | linduxed | hey guys |
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| 20:01.26 | linduxed | i've got my system on one drive in a LVM setup |
| 20:01.45 | linduxed | i've got three other empty drives that i could add to my volume group |
| 20:01.59 | linduxed | thing is though, i want some security, don't want everything to go down if one drive dies |
| 20:02.10 | linduxed | does lvm have something that could help me? |
| 20:02.15 | linduxed | add some protection? |
| 20:02.59 | adc | thesadmafioso: I don't think it's included in any package. Are you looking for setting up irssi with Tor? In that case see https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/irssi |
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| 20:04.44 | thesadmafioso | adc thanks |
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| 20:06.42 | jawr | sharky: i am currently using the loop* device |
| 20:06.52 | jawr | weird :s |
| 20:07.02 | jawr | could it be a point of an exploit? |
| 20:07.06 | frime | anyone familiar with using pscp on a windows machine, uploading to a linux machine running debian? i'm getting terrible terrible upload speed and have no clue why |
| 20:07.35 | frime | both sftp and scp protocol get terrible speeds |
| 20:09.33 | sharky | jawr, i doubt it, it is not a server listening on network or so |
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| 20:14.31 | phantomcircuit | Will_Tampa, games dont run well/at all in a vm |
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| 20:15.35 | Kirito | How does /run work now? What file do I edit to make folders I create in run persistent on reboot, since it's tmpfs by default? |
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| 20:18.12 | Kirito | http://askubuntu.com/questions/303120/how-folders-created-in-var-run-on-each-reboot Is using an init script the only option? |
| 20:18.46 | Will_Tampa | phantomcircuit: This is a tad old school (or old time) but a few years ago I wanted to dual boot Win (98) & Fedora.... I 1st installed fedora & when I went to install Win... it Hang.... (at that time you HAD to install win 1st) ... since then I have been a win user... & have always installed Linux (currently Debian) 2nd.... I don't know if that Win 1st bug has been fixed (I never followed.....) u |
| 20:18.57 | Will_Tampa | but that might be a thought |
| 20:19.24 | phantomcircuit | windows 8 is already installed |
| 20:19.32 | phantomcircuit | it can only be installed in UEFI mode though |
| 20:19.46 | phantomcircuit | in UEFI mode debian video output in the installer fails |
| 20:20.32 | phantomcircuit | so im stuck ridiculously switching back and forth |
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| 20:20.45 | Will_Tampa | Ohh its that UEFI.... I heard of that ...but since I instaled Win 8.1 on VB .... I don't know if I ran into it... I know my current bios is not UEFI ready |
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| 20:21.28 | Will_Tampa | I have yet to run into it ..... |
| 20:21.30 | Rourick | hello :) |
| 20:22.06 | Will_Tampa | Hiya |
| 20:22.30 | Rourick | hey new user here, coming from linux mint just quick question... |
| 20:22.55 | Rourick | im runing debian 7 xfce how do i get the volume icon on taskbar |
| 20:23.14 | Rourick | may be the dumbes't ? u ever seen |
| 20:23.16 | Rourick | lol |
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| 20:23.41 | jesther | You're convincing yourself from the rat. |
| 20:24.20 | jesther | Rourick: The XFCE rat does so many tricks, it might blither you. So, sorry on that part. |
| 20:24.45 | ollie_ | mumpitzel: i've installed from backports, and dpkg -s nginx says the version is 1.4, but nginx -v says the version is 1.2.... what's going on? |
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| 20:26.09 | jesther | Rourick: Could you answer ollie_s question? I'm having a hard time getting up in the morning. |
| 20:26.26 | Rourick | ha |
| 20:26.28 | Rourick | no! |
| 20:26.39 | jesther | YOU do as I Say! |
| 20:26.47 | Rourick | LMAO |
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| 20:27.38 | gusnan | Rourick, rick-click the panel, select Panel -> Add new object, and there select something like Mixer. (I am using a non-english system, so the terms might vary). |
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| 20:28.12 | gusnan | Rourick, that should be, _right-click_... |
| 20:28.16 | Rourick | gusnan: yes i did but it show's mixer i want volume icon |
| 20:28.21 | mumpitzel | ollie_: /usr/sbin/nginx -v ? |
| 20:28.43 | ollie_ | mumpitzel: 1.2.1 |
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| 20:29.30 | mumpitzel | ollie_: dpkg -l |grep nginx |
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| 20:30.55 | ollie_ | nginx is 1.4 but nginx-common and nginx-full are 1.2 |
| 20:30.58 | Rourick | gusnan: i got it.. ty :) |
| 20:31.00 | ollie_ | i guess i should install those from backports |
| 20:31.17 | gusnan | Rourick, great, YW |
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| 20:36.43 | mumpitzel | ollie_: yes you should |
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| 20:38.13 | ollie_ | mumpitzel: works, thanks so much!! |
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| 20:53.37 | un214 | so I am using the propritary NVidia graphics driver |
| 20:53.52 | un214 | last time I tried nouveau there were two problems |
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| 20:54.00 | un214 | 1) memory corruption. Probably fixed. |
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| 20:54.15 | un214 | 2) required KMS but KMS to VGA Console was not implemented |
| 20:54.37 | un214 | site http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/KernelModeSetting/ lists VGA Console implemented for KMS |
| 20:54.45 | un214 | did this change in the past 2 years? |
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| 20:56.48 | caravel | un214: nouveau improved massively over the past two years. Just try it |
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| 20:57.03 | bitkoni | Hello. I can't seem to get Bitcoin-Qt running on Debian Jessie (testing). "sudo apt-get install bitcoin-qt" gives me 4 of the following errors: "Depends: libboost-filesystem1.46.1 (>= 1.46.1-1) but it is not installable". Of all the 4 libboost-* packages, I have version 1.49.0 installed. |
| 20:57.23 | musca | !nouveau |
| 20:57.23 | dpkg | The nouveau project aims to build high-quality, open source drivers for Nvidia GPUs (Riva, TNT, GeForce, Quadro). Nouveau <DRM> is part of the Linux kernel, the display driver is packaged as xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (read its README.Debian file for important notes). 3D acceleration is available as of Debian 7 "Wheezy", install the libgl1-mesa-dri package. http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/ #nouveau on irc.freenode.net. |
| 20:57.56 | mumpitzel | bitkoni: which debian version? |
| 20:58.20 | pmo | he said jessie (testing) |
| 20:58.31 | bitkoni | mumpitzel: jessie / testing / 7 |
| 20:59.10 | caravel | Wheezy / stable is 7 |
| 20:59.21 | un214 | what is the kernel parameter to force text mode boot? |
| 20:59.49 | caravel | should be "text", isn't it ? |
| 20:59.57 | bitkoni | caravel: Sorry, you're right, it's 8.0. |
| 21:00.17 | un214 | perhaps it is |
| 21:00.23 | caravel | un214: or vga=test ? (sorry, being using what's supposed to be my memory) |
| 21:00.33 | caravel | vga=text* I meant |
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| 21:01.46 | surlydev | hello all |
| 21:01.49 | caravel | un214: anyhow, better lookup the manual instead of trying my suggestions on this :) |
| 21:02.02 | musca | bitkoni: there is no bitcoin-qt in jessie, only in sid |
| 21:02.05 | surlydev | I have an issue with Debian 7 - adding users. Anyone care to take a crack at solving my issue ? |
| 21:02.06 | un214 | haven't been able to find the bleep manual |
| 21:02.20 | un214 | surlydev: doesn't adduser work? |
| 21:02.39 | caravel | un214: try this ? https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |
| 21:02.48 | musca | surlydev: please elaborate more details. |
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| 21:02.58 | surlydev | I tried through the GUI - but when I log into that new user account, I get to desktop or taskbar or anything, just a grey backgrounnd and a cursor |
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| 21:03.26 | bitkoni | musca: I'm using "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bitcoin/bitcoin/ubuntu precise main" |
| 21:03.45 | musca | i wish you good luck. |
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| 21:04.01 | bitkoni | musca: Because this is bound to fail? |
| 21:04.19 | surlydev | I deleted the account, and recreated it, and get the same issue. So I created a new account with a new username, and same thing |
| 21:04.53 | musca | bitkoni: i just know nothing about ubuntu. |
| 21:05.20 | bitkoni | musca: Okay. Thanks. |
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| 21:07.30 | bitkoni | I changed the "precise" to "raring" in "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/bitcoin/bitcoin/ubuntu precise main" and now I only get this error "bitcoin-qt : Depends: libminiupnpc8 (>= 1.6) but it is not installable" |
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| 21:12.59 | Rourick | hi i did this https://d.stavrovski.net/blog/installing-oracle-java7-on-debian-wheezy/ |
| 21:13.06 | Rourick | how do i enable it? |
| 21:13.26 | Rourick | in iceweasel |
| 21:13.41 | mumpitzel | !tell Rourick about java-package |
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| 21:14.44 | musca | without readng the link i'say enable the plugin in iceweasel / extras /addons -> extensions |
| 21:15.41 | gnuweb | hello. I'm running debian and apache is pointing a site to /var/www/ the "It works" page |
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| 21:15.51 | gnuweb | apache seems to be ignoring my sites-enabled folder because If I mess with the configuration I get no errors upon restarting apache |
| 21:16.49 | Rourick | musca: i tried that no plug-in found but oracle jave is installed |
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| 21:17.15 | Rourick | do i use icedtea with oracle? |
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| 21:19.44 | un214 | the nouveau driver starts but sets a screwed-up console |
| 21:19.51 | un214 | X works just fine |
| 21:20.18 | un214 | there's some indication in the docs it's possible to use KMS with vga text |
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| 21:21.30 | bitkoni | Bitcoin-Qt problem has been solved. |
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| 21:22.53 | eskatrem | hey, what is the preferred way to install nodeJS on debian? |
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| 21:23.51 | musca | Rourick: did you see what dpkg told you in a query? |
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| 21:25.10 | nicoo | eskatrem: https://github.com/joyent/node/wiki/Installing-Node.js-via-package-manager#debian-lmde |
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| 21:26.48 | eskatrem | nicoo: yeah, I saw that one but I also saw that node is in the unstable package repository of debian, I was just wondering if one way was preferred to the other |
| 21:28.04 | pmo | time to go see if i can figure out that in the latest kernel created a kernel panic on both my machines |
| 21:28.08 | un214 | how the heck do I set the console resolution? |
| 21:28.10 | pmo | what* |
| 21:28.31 | nicoo | eskatrem: Unless you are running unstable (which might be a bad idea in a production environment), you should compile (as told to by the node.js devs) |
| 21:28.53 | eskatrem | nicoo: guess you're right, going to do that then |
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| 21:31.30 | mumpitzel | nicoo: why not backport it? |
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| 21:33.47 | pmo | ough.. init hw errors on new kernel |
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| 21:33.55 | pmo | older kernel works fine |
| 21:33.58 | pmo | (jessie) |
| 21:34.57 | pmo | i wonder what the debian devs did to that kernel |
| 21:34.58 | nicoo | mumpitzel: I have no idea. Maybe it just hasn't been done yet. |
| 21:35.14 | gnuweb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:36.22 | gnuweb | im getting the default /var/www page |
| 21:36.29 | pmo | any of you on brand new hw and had debian jessie give you a kernel panic with the latest kernel? |
| 21:36.47 | mumpitzel | pmo: which kernel? |
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| 21:37.04 | gnuweb | actually i might have a solution... |
| 21:37.11 | pmo | mumpitzel: i'd have to look that up since im on an older kernel atm |
| 21:37.23 | pmo | if i remember by head 3.10.2 or something? |
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| 21:37.35 | un214 | what video= parameter results in vga text mode |
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| 21:37.55 | un214 | video=640x400 almost works, but this system has special hardware that works only on vga text itself |
| 21:37.57 | pmo | im on 3.9.8-1 now and it works fine |
| 21:38.06 | pmo | (downgraded) |
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| 21:38.53 | musca | un214: i'm setting it with grub |
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| 21:39.29 | jonasty123dm | Are you using the Debian supplied kernel? |
| 21:39.39 | mumpitzel | pmo: is there any reason why you want to run 3.10? |
| 21:39.43 | un214 | musca: how exactly? |
| 21:40.03 | un214 | cat /proc/cmdline should reveal it |
| 21:40.05 | mumpitzel | un214: what videochip is it? |
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| 21:40.06 | pmo | mumpitzel: cuz i run the latest kernel apt throws at me :) |
| 21:40.11 | un214 | nvidia |
| 21:40.21 | mumpitzel | un214: "nvidia" isn't a chip, is it? |
| 21:40.29 | mumpitzel | ,kernels |
| 21:40.31 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.11-rc4-686-pae (3.11~rc4-1~exp1); sid: 3.10-2-686-pae (3.10.7-1); jessie: 3.10-2-686-pae (3.10.5-1); wheezy-backports: 3.10-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.10.5-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.46-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze3) |
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| 21:40.45 | un214 | you're right it's a chip vendor but enough to find drivers for it |
| 21:40.47 | pmo | look there mumpitzel |
| 21:40.59 | pmo | 3.9.8-1 |
| 21:41.06 | pmo | err what |
| 21:41.10 | un214 | chip is GE 8200 |
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| 21:41.38 | pmo | anyways let me have a look |
| 21:41.38 | mumpitzel | un214: that's a bog standard geforce. which drivers do you want to use? |
| 21:41.44 | un214 | nouveau |
| 21:41.56 | pmo | Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.10-2-amd64 |
| 21:42.09 | pmo | latest kernel released by debian for jessie |
| 21:42.15 | mumpitzel | un214: then kms and fb will be used |
| 21:42.19 | pmo | i guess judd needs to update his list |
| 21:42.36 | un214 | fb does not seem to be in use |
| 21:42.40 | pmo | err no |
| 21:42.44 | un214 | kms is in use |
| 21:42.47 | pmo | just me that pasted the wrong one before |
| 21:43.00 | pmo | anyways 3.10-2 craps my hardware |
| 21:43.08 | pmo | (intel + nvidia) |
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| 21:46.13 | musca | un214: i set "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1280x800x32" in /etc/default/grub |
| 21:47.11 | musca | the mode is dependent of the VGA-Bios. At the grubprompt use "vbeinfo" to find supported modes. |
| 21:47.27 | un214 | ah |
| 21:47.51 | musca | this method was introduced with kms. |
| 21:47.54 | un214 | I wonder if I can pass arbitary values |
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| 21:48.15 | un214 | there's probably a working value very near 640x400 |
| 21:48.30 | musca | you can, and the results are random failure. |
| 21:50.14 | musca | well, vesa bios extensions mostly support 4:3 resolutions. |
| 21:50.21 | pmo | im confused over this kernel panic.. support removed from new hw or? |
| 21:50.36 | un214 | I have 1920x1280 screen size |
| 21:50.50 | un214 | if I can actually force text the hardware will auto-adapt |
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| 21:52.10 | musca | un214: i doubt that screen size. Full HD is 1920x1080 and there is that 16:10 resolution 1920x1200 |
| 21:52.32 | musca | did you mix these numbers? |
| 21:52.34 | un214 | mistyped actual size is 1920x1080 |
| 21:52.47 | musca | ok |
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| 21:54.33 | jonasty123dm | Has anyone tried Brackets on Debian? |
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| 21:55.19 | pmo | ah after some googleing i see im not the only ivy bridge user that has issues with the latest kernel |
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| 22:06.15 | scootypuff | what does 'nice yes >/dev/null &' do? |
| 22:08.35 | r3m | o/ |
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| 22:12.13 | un214 | what command can change console resolution on the fly when KMS is in use |
| 22:12.20 | un214 | fbset doesn't seem to do it |
| 22:12.28 | sajjad | Hi |
| 22:12.52 | bullgard4 | jonasty123dm: What brackets? Do you mean these characters? [] |
| 22:12.59 | sajjad | How I can make a debian based distro remaster? |
| 22:13.33 | inclusa | Hi, Has anyone used the word processor Sublime? |
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| 22:15.31 | Kapcuha | Hi all, do anybody know where is in debian 7 ntpdate conf? |
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| 22:16.16 | musca | !ntpdate |
| 22:16.16 | dpkg | ntpdate is an obsolete and unmaintained program to set a system clock via <NTP>. Just install the ntp package instead. Since Debian 5.0 "Lenny", ntp's default configuration files (NTPD_OPTS='-g' in /etc/default/ntp, 'iburst' option for default servers in /etc/ntp.conf) make ntpdate unnecessary. See also <why not ntpdate>. |
| 22:16.33 | jonasty123dm | bullgard4: no, I'm talking about the program Brackets by Adobe: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/08/first-look-at-brackets-for-linux |
| 22:17.29 | musca | inclusa: assume yes, but not me. What's your real question? |
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| 22:19.08 | inclusa | @musca I wanted to know what makes the diferent. why use it? |
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| 22:21.16 | musca | inclusa: it's comercial software, they will tell you on their website. |
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| 22:22.03 | inclusa | Ok. Thanks. |
| 22:22.18 | jonasty123dm | musca : you have to pay for it but it's still open source, if I'm not mistaken |
| 22:22.20 | musca | open is even easier to write than commercial |
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| 22:22.33 | un214 | that got it |
| 22:22.40 | un214 | a working value is video=960x540 |
| 22:22.54 | bullgard4 | jonasty123dm: I have not used the Brackets program yet. |
| 22:23.45 | jonasty123dm | I tried it, but it won't open. Looks like you have to install the ia32-libs on x64 systems. Will try it again tomorrow |
| 22:24.26 | inclusa | <muzca> |
| 22:24.26 | inclusa | I work with vim but it caught my attention and I wanted to know what brought |
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| 22:26.41 | abrotman | inclusa: so ask them, not us |
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| 22:27.59 | inclusa | Ok, I understand, sorry |
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| 22:32.31 | Lecter | should i switch from ubuntu to debian if im more into synaptic than ubuntu app manager? |
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| 22:34.17 | jordilopezamat | Lecter , that's right ... Ubuntu is derived from Debian (without the whistles and blows...) |
| 22:35.02 | musca | Lecter: Debian has Live-CDs, so you can easily try. |
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| 22:35.49 | jordilopezamat | although, latest Ubuntu versions privacy concerns should also make its users maybe re-think about it https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks |
| 22:36.11 | jordilopezamat | (free as in freedom ? ) :-D |
| 22:37.25 | rryoumaa | if you set dpi in kde or another desktop environment, is that exactly the same as setting it in your x windows configuration? i.e. it affects the same set of programs? |
| 22:37.54 | jordilopezamat | Lecter, as musca suggests, i've you're thinking about it... i would definetively burn a CD (or better, set a Live-USB) and give Debian an opportunity. Join us :-) |
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| 22:38.15 | un214 | looks like I wasted my time |
| 22:38.24 | un214 | there is no glx extension for nouveau |
| 22:38.47 | Lecter | because the more it goes the more i prefer the debian tools to ubuntus, the only thing is that I dont know if ubuntu stuff can be accessed via only debian |
| 22:38.59 | un214 | therefore no 3d acceleration |
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| 22:40.04 | jordilopezamat | Dear Debian community , i have this bizarre disk partioninng http://db.tt/6tcKC9HW i want to optimize |
| 22:40.14 | Lecter | im already on a ubuntu so much modified that half of it is back to its roots |
| 22:40.30 | Lecter | already tried debian |
| 22:40.54 | jordilopezamat | ¿ any hints for doing it via gparted ? (newbie here ) :-D |
| 22:40.59 | jordilopezamat | aha Lecter |
| 22:41.00 | Lecter | bu i would like to know if you can have access to ubuntu application manager |
| 22:41.00 | tgs3 | jordilopezamat: hm |
| 22:41.13 | Lecter | im using synaptic per default |
| 22:41.23 | jordilopezamat | tgs3 :-/ |
| 22:41.25 | digdilem | jordemort, imo, move /home to / |
| 22:41.34 | jordilopezamat | suggestions ? |
| 22:41.49 | digdilem | get rid of swap temporarily and make one larger partition at the end? |
| 22:41.50 | jordilopezamat | sorry digdilem ? |
| 22:41.51 | tgs3 | jordilopezamat: create new partition in the unallocated space, and later copy data to it (in some preserving way) |
| 22:42.09 | jordilopezamat | digdilem can i do it "live" ? |
| 22:42.17 | digdilem | do you have many users? |
| 22:42.21 | jordemort | ah not me |
| 22:42.25 | jordilopezamat | with swapoff option ? |
| 22:42.32 | jordilopezamat | it's just me :-) |
| 22:42.36 | jordemort | evaporates |
| 22:43.12 | digdilem | then log in as root, mkdir /home2 cp -R everything in /home to /home2, umount that partition and mv /home2 to /home |
| 22:43.17 | jordilopezamat | (i mean, it's my laptop... still, i don't want to break it... :-P ) |
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| 22:43.34 | digdilem | if it goes wrong, you can remount that partition and it's still there until you've checked it all works |
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| 22:43.39 | jordilopezamat | ..yep! let's see if i got it |
| 22:44.16 | jordilopezamat | ( FYI: i have a dd kind of backup of the entire system in pen drive ) |
| 22:44.40 | digdilem | change /etc/fstab and comment out the /home mount line, then reboot and check all is okay before touching anything with gparted |
| 22:45.08 | jordilopezamat | ok i see... digdilem... |
| 22:45.46 | jordilopezamat | ¿do you think that i can try just easier for a LiveUSB i have with me ? |
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| 22:46.27 | jordilopezamat | i mean... ¿it would be safer, as long it's not a kind of 'hot' partitions tweaking ? |
| 22:46.33 | digdilem | you can do it from a livecd too, but no real need if you can log in as root, as root's files are not kept in /home |
| 22:46.51 | Lecter | guys a question |
| 22:47.06 | Lecter | is there still a customizer for the grub? |
| 22:47.06 | jordilopezamat | yep... appreciate your hing digdilem |
| 22:47.23 | digdilem | no worries. bedtime now though, good luck jordilopezamat :) |
| 22:47.30 | Lecter | thats supported in an official package deposit |
| 22:47.45 | jordilopezamat | have a rest digdilem |
| 22:47.47 | lumiukko | a customizer for grub? |
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| 22:50.12 | inclusa | I wonder how it responds to a particular user from the IRC using irssi |
| 22:50.27 | abrotman | it what? |
| 22:52.13 | inclusa | I whant repy to a user, but I don't Know. Thaks |
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| 22:54.56 | EmleyMoor | inclusa: I suspect you actually want to know how to communicate with just one user, rather than a channel. If so, /msg nickname what you want to say... |
| 22:55.52 | jordilopezamat | Dear community, given this current partitioning http://db.tt/6tcKC9HW , for a newbie like, to enlarge the /home partition ... ¿would it be enough to 1.temporarily disable/remove swap partition 2. enlarge /home 3.re-create swap partition at "the end of the disk" ? ) thanks for your attention again ! |
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| 22:57.06 | abrotman | you could just use a swap file instead of a partition |
| 22:57.07 | jordilopezamat | ...and ¿is it easier and / or safer to do it from a Live-USB system ? :-D |
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| 22:57.40 | jordilopezamat | i like the approach abrotman... i would like to learn howto... :-) thanks ! |
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| 22:58.16 | jordilopezamat | (let's google " create swap file debian " ... ) |
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| 22:59.33 | jordilopezamat | ok, easy jordi .. https://wiki.debian.org/Swap , obviously |
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| 23:19.33 | jarray52 | Does anyone know any good alternatives to wmctrl? Something that isn't as buggy. |
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| 23:21.02 | Lecter | hey, anybody ever saw viruses being used as helpers to administrate a system |
| 23:21.12 | Lecter | beside the few made to desinfect other viruses |
| 23:21.39 | zangaroo | lecter, viruses linux ? |
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| 23:22.29 | Lecter | well lets say a self replicating bash code |
| 23:22.41 | Lecter | that would insert itself in other sheelscrips |
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| 23:29.23 | Lecter | zangaroo u there? |
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| 23:33.01 | russw | I have placed an executable /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables_config.sh in debian wheezy (7.1) and it is not being executed on reboot (appending to file in it to be sure). Is this not the location for network interface scripts anymore, or am I doing something wrong? |
| 23:33.21 | russw | the script works perfectly when executed directly. It just isn't executed by the boot process. |
| 23:34.26 | abrotman | a script or executable? |
| 23:36.29 | jarray52 | Is there a tool to get window ids and window titles as well as setting window ids and titles within the KDE or gnome desktop environment? wmctrl does this, but it is not maintained, and it is a bit buggy. |
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| 23:38.33 | abrotman | like xwininfo ? |
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| 23:40.48 | nkuttler | jarray52: xprop? |
| 23:41.44 | jarray52 | abrotman: Can xwininfo provide a list of all open windows? |
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| 23:41.57 | Lecter | =( nobody talking to me |
| 23:42.13 | abrotman | jarray52: FIIK, play with it |
| 23:42.20 | nkuttler | Lecter: sounds like you want #bash |
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| 23:43.08 | Lecter | thanks nkuttler |
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| 23:57.10 | jordilopezamat | Hello dear debian'ers , newbie here ... i' stucked on the following (it's not a "in production" server) ¿HOWTO optimise current partitioning? ? 1. i started from this disk partioning http://db.tt/6tcKC9HW 2. then (temporarily) removed swap partition and tried to enlarge /home capacity... but i (stupidly) slipped onto this http://db.tt/uteG7QaI |
| 23:58.55 | jordilopezamat | :-/ ... ¿mmh... anyone would like to give a hint on how to fill the gap which is preceeding .. /sda3 ? |
