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| 00:03.07 | jordilopezamat | gparted does (straightforwardly ) not allow me to do so with the resizing cursos ... ¿could it be that the 'gap' is on top a extended (but the one to be "glued at the on of" on a primary partition) a problem? |
| 00:03.38 | jordilopezamat | (FYI: i'm running on a Live-USB now... ) |
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| 00:03.53 | jordilopezamat | thanks beforehand for your attention |
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| 00:05.06 | jordilopezamat | :-/ i'm a little bit puzzled ... |
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| 00:06.37 | jordilopezamat | i think i'm about to screw my system... :-P |
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| 00:10.56 | jesther | Screw it then. |
| 00:11.07 | jesther | Yeah, that's right. Screw it. |
| 00:11.17 | jesther | Screw the screws off. Then... |
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| 00:12.29 | mrdeb | does anyone know why vlc gets corrupted in font top menu when u set openbox font to terminus: http://i39.tinypic.com/2hgxyzl.jpg |
| 00:13.40 | jordilopezamat | sorry for my english... :-P |
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| 00:14.21 | jordilopezamat | ok, i'm asking in debian-es ... maybe i can explain myself about my problem better there... thanks! |
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| 00:16.32 | Sir_Rai | mrdeb: VLC uses QT toolkit which handles fonts differently. Try to test a true type font instead the bitmapped terminus |
| 00:17.45 | mrdeb | Sir_Rai: it works fine in debian 6, so its an issue with this vlc specifically |
| 00:17.58 | mrdeb | and i want terminus for all fonts systemwide |
| 00:18.03 | mrdeb | that's what i have |
| 00:18.04 | jesther | jordilopezamat: /boot, swap, /, /home. In the exact order. |
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| 00:18.10 | jesther | jordilopezamat: And use ext2 for /boot. |
| 00:18.18 | Sir_Rai | mrdeb: The problem is related to the use of QT Toolkit |
| 00:18.18 | jesther | jordilopezamat: Set all partitions to primary. |
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| 00:18.51 | jesther | jordilopezamat: You might need at least 20 GB for /. |
| 00:19.06 | mrdeb | Sir_Rai: what is the fix? newer versions dont have it. ubuntu doesnt have it. only happens in openbox |
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| 00:22.08 | jordilopezamat | thanks jesther |
| 00:22.13 | jesther | NP. |
| 00:22.42 | jordilopezamat | is it easy to do with gparted ? |
| 00:23.08 | jesther | Yeah. You can have a backup partitioner too. |
| 00:23.37 | jordilopezamat | given my situation ? (i have a fresh backup , NP ) |
| 00:23.47 | jesther | But I don't think you can resize after filling the whole HDD/SSD. |
| 00:23.47 | Sir_Rai | mrdeb: maybe you can set something about the font rendering in your openbox manager settings. I don't use Openbox so I can't guide you on that |
| 00:25.20 | jordilopezamat | jesther, how to set a extended to primary partition ?:-D |
| 00:26.13 | jesther | It should be in the editor of the partition you're trying to configure. |
| 00:26.42 | jesther | Besides using a partitioner on itself, I wonder why it would get easier on distros that have it already. |
| 00:27.05 | jordilopezamat | :-/ ... ? |
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| 00:27.33 | jordilopezamat | mmh... newbie here, sorry for not getting it |
| 00:27.40 | jesther | If you get any errors on why you have a bad HDD, you can ask why isn't it spinning. |
| 00:28.21 | jordilopezamat | is an fresh new SDD... i'm confused |
| 00:28.35 | jesther | Ahah. |
| 00:28.39 | jordilopezamat | (sorry for my english ) |
| 00:29.41 | jordilopezamat | i mean, i have a backup, NP ... but no clue on howto easily convert extended partition to primary, upon your suggestion... |
| 00:29.48 | jesther | It should act the same as if it were SATA-3.5. |
| 00:29.55 | jordilopezamat | sure |
| 00:30.05 | jesther | I'm not too keen on SSD. |
| 00:30.50 | jordilopezamat | but i got lost on your point... ok let's forget on the disk technology:-D (nice think is that is much faster ! ) |
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| 00:31.02 | jesther | That's your take on why you want extended volumes for no reason but to set it out straight without a clue on why it's slower. |
| 00:31.35 | jesther | You got your answers. |
| 00:31.43 | jordilopezamat | ok... i was wrong setting extended partitions... right |
| 00:31.58 | jesther | Hey, it fits. Why not try harder, eh? |
| 00:32.27 | jordilopezamat | mmh... don't get it jesther :-) |
| 00:32.58 | jesther | Sorry for the inconvenience but time is crucial for redundancy with no doubt of anything unquestionable. |
| 00:33.26 | jesther | ;) |
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| 00:34.42 | jordilopezamat | still puzzled... thanks anyway jesther |
| 00:35.21 | jesther | Yeah. A heap load of spitter spatter and then off the wind of tale tells. |
| 00:35.51 | jordilopezamat | jesther are you a bot or something like... :-P |
| 00:36.06 | jesther | Fuck off. |
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| 00:36.30 | jordilopezamat | oh... lack of sense of humour |
| 00:36.55 | jordilopezamat | sad |
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| 00:38.30 | yeehi | Howdy! How much traffic is there at the busiest Debian mirrors during peak times? What would be an approximate daily amount of up/downloading? |
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| 00:42.45 | dondelelcaro | yeehi: depends on the mirrors. It can saturate most links right after a release |
| 00:45.08 | dondelelcaro | yeehi: you can see some examples here: http://ftp-stud.hs-esslingen.de/info/breakdown.php4 |
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| 00:45.34 | yeehi | thanks, dondelecaro - any idea approximately how much data gets uploaded per day after a new release? 10GB? 100GB? 1TB? |
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| 00:46.54 | abrotman | uploaded? |
| 00:47.03 | dondelelcaro | yeehi: depends. IME, each dinstall usually is less than 10G, and there are four a day. |
| 00:47.27 | dondelelcaro | yeehi: but if you're concerned about that, you probably shouldn't be running a publicly available mirror |
| 00:47.30 | dondelelcaro | yeehi: see http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror |
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| 01:01.24 | bytes | hey i want to install debian and i was wondering if i should go testing or stable |
| 01:01.33 | bytes | and if i were to go testing where are the isos for it |
| 01:02.52 | aypea[1] | if you're new go stable. |
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| 01:04.08 | abrotman | bytes: stable |
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| 01:04.11 | musca | yes, that's also the first step for installing testing, second step is dist-upgrade to testing. |
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| 01:04.26 | abrotman | please don't |
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| 01:06.23 | musca | !releases |
| 01:06.24 | dpkg | See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for an explanation of releases. See <release history> or http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases for prior releases. Ask me about <stable>, <testing>, <unstable> and <introduction>. |
| 01:06.49 | musca | and <backports> |
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| 01:19.11 | jesther | musca: Got anything else to do than just snubbing? |
| 01:19.51 | abrotman | ahem .. |
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| 01:23.53 | jesther | Ugh. Mailing lists just make you kneel. |
| 01:24.49 | abrotman | jesther: I think you want #debian-offtopic |
| 01:25.03 | themill | or #defocus |
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| 01:25.14 | jesther | Nah, I'm fine. |
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| 01:42.54 | jwaters10 | hello, how would I pysical boot kvm partition /dev/mapper/sda3p2 |
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| 01:49.39 | forculus | can someone please tell me the correct method to changing the default text editor in kali? |
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| 01:51.27 | themill | forculus: #kali-linux is where kali is supported |
| 01:52.05 | forculus | correct, but they referred me here, since it is based off debian |
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| 01:53.37 | themill | forculus: can you pastebin a log for me? |
| 01:53.52 | forculus | a log of what? |
| 01:53.59 | themill | that conversation |
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| 01:54.51 | forculus | <WiK> dont know, but since kali is based on debian, perhaps someone in #debian would be able to help better |
| 01:55.35 | themill | forculus: :( We can't and don't support debian derivatives here. |
| 01:55.38 | forculus | i have a working solution, but i'm getting conflicting results between two VMs and I just want to make sure what i did is the proper way |
| 01:55.47 | forculus | fair enough... |
| 01:56.22 | forculus | so, could someone please tell me the correct method to changing the default text editor in debian? |
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| 01:57.06 | forculus | I created a sublime.desktop file and added MimeTypes=plain/text; |
| 01:57.24 | forculus | and then installed and updated the desktop database |
| 01:57.32 | forculus | is that the correct/normal/best method? |
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| 02:03.18 | abrotman | forculus: we don't support Kali here |
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| 02:11.35 | jordilopezamat | hello |
| 02:12.19 | jordilopezamat | i've been told that for /boot is better ext2 rather than ext4... ¿may i know why ? thanks |
| 02:13.05 | jordilopezamat | (my '/' is ext4 now... :-/ ) |
| 02:16.53 | Subroutine | jordilopezamat>: i am not sure if its beeter for bot partition, but its definetly fater at writing then ext3 ot 4 |
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| 02:17.20 | Subroutine | jordilopezamat: i ment faster |
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| 02:22.00 | abrotman | jordilopezamat: you don't need a separate /boot/ |
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| 02:29.40 | Yu-Lin | exit |
| 02:29.50 | zerocom | $sslready |
| 02:30.55 | gnuweb | hello. how do I make it so that I don't have to mount my hard drives with admin login every time I boot? |
| 02:33.22 | jordilopezamat | sorry abrotman, i was willing to ask " i've been told that for /boot is better ext2 rather than ext4... ¿may i know why ?" thanks again ! |
| 02:34.22 | jordilopezamat | nut i think Subroutine already answered my question ... when " i am not sure if its beeter for bot partition, but its definetly fater at writing then ext3 ot 4" ... ? |
| 02:34.24 | abrotman | jordilopezamat: i answered you |
| 02:34.59 | jordilopezamat | sorry abrotman i mixed to replies i've got... |
| 02:35.29 | jordilopezamat | "two replies i've got"... another typo error ... |
| 02:36.09 | jordilopezamat | BTW, when partitioning /, /home. swap ... |
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| 02:36.49 | jordilopezamat | (given that always starting with '/) is it really a given sequence mandatory ? |
| 02:37.56 | jordilopezamat | i mean ... ¿/, /home. swap ... ? ¿/, swap, /home ? does it have any impact ? :-) |
| 02:38.01 | jordilopezamat | thanks again |
| 02:38.52 | abrotman | cannot talk to jordilopezamat |
| 02:39.16 | jordilopezamat | i'm puzzled ... :-/ |
| 02:39.33 | jordilopezamat | maybe i need some rest... |
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| 02:40.17 | jordilopezamat | good night |
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| 02:52.54 | optraz | using jessie, how do i install iceweasel version later than 17 ? |
| 02:53.55 | themill | optraz: you'd need to get it and potentially a few dependencies from experimental. It's not ideal. |
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| 02:54.48 | optraz | ok, used to get from this http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 02:54.52 | optraz | it works for squeeze |
| 02:55.01 | optraz | wheezy |
| 02:55.11 | optraz | nwo that it poitn to jessie.. it does not seem to work no more |
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| 03:40.44 | scorphus | hello, I'm trying to install gnome 3.8 but apt tells me gnome : Depends: gnome-core (= 1:3.8+2) but it is not going to be installed |
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| 03:41.07 | scorphus | it there anything I might be doing wrong? |
| 03:42.42 | mumpitze1 | check your sources.list. maybe some repo is missting. "/msg dpkg wheezy sources.list" |
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| 03:56.53 | icedtea | how do I get the source of a standard debian package? I want to see the source code for the program pkexec |
| 03:57.21 | icedtea | oh nm |
| 03:57.23 | icedtea | found it |
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| 04:01.30 | scorphus | mumpitze1, sources.list is okay, no repo is missing =/ |
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| 04:51.38 | scorphus | you see, gnome-session-fallback (http://packages.debian.org/sid/gnome-session-fallback) depends on gnome-session-bin (<< 3.5) and gnome-session-bin (>= 3.4.2.1-4) |
| 04:51.57 | scorphus | but APT only considers << 3.5 |
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| 04:54.43 | reisio | ShapeShifter499: :) |
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| 04:54.53 | ShapeShifter499 | xD |
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| 06:40.31 | cooldharma06 | hi |
| 06:40.55 | cooldharma06 | scp -r /dev/files root@ip:path |
| 06:41.21 | cooldharma06 | showing error as files : not a regular file.. how to copy the files |
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| 06:42.29 | themill | cooldharma06: what are you really trying to do? |
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| 06:44.13 | cooldharma06 | i am copying some xen files which inside my dom0 to domU(vm). |
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| 06:45.15 | cooldharma06 | files which i mention abv are by file command, files: character special |
| 06:45.35 | cooldharma06 | how to copy these files to another vm or system |
| 06:46.09 | themill | You don't. They're not really files, they're devices that the kernel is providing a file-like interface to |
| 06:47.07 | cooldharma06 | oh.. is it possible to create inside my vm |
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| 06:49.14 | themill | That entirely depends on what they are. |
| 06:50.54 | cooldharma06 | you know xen |
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| 06:51.09 | cooldharma06 | .? |
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| 07:39.44 | matu | Hi |
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| 07:40.24 | matu | i am using Konqueror on Debian Wheezy but it seems really unstable, when i run konqueror i get this message : http://pastebin.com/G6bs2RhR |
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| 07:40.44 | matu | what am i supposed to do ? what should i do in order to solve this problem ? |
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| 07:43.12 | themill | matu: none of those messages indicate anything that would cause konqueror to be crashy |
| 07:43.23 | matu | ok |
| 07:43.37 | matu | it did crash but the message was different |
| 07:43.51 | matu | what should i do in order to get rid of these messages ? |
| 07:43.55 | matu | please |
| 07:44.39 | themill | just ignore them, there's nothing you can do about them |
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| 07:46.38 | matu | ok |
| 07:46.43 | matu | thank you themill |
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| 08:01.09 | hyppias | how can i remove grub from the MBR? dual boot with a bluetooth keboard does not work, so have to find other ways... |
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| 08:05.33 | ksk | hyppias: if you overwrite it with another bootloader |
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| 08:13.15 | louisdk | When resyncing raid, should I then avoid to touch data stored on the raid or what will happen? |
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| 08:14.41 | Deeps | if you start performing operations on the disks in the array, the resync will slow down |
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| 08:14.51 | Deeps | if the disks are idle, it'll resync at max speed |
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| 08:15.39 | bhuddah | expect performance impact. no more no less :) |
| 08:16.04 | louisdk | bhuddah, thx :) |
| 08:16.50 | bhuddah | louisdk: and keep in mind that you'd like to have it finish fast. because of the raid degradation |
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| 08:29.35 | pido9 | hi, i know btrfs is "experimental".. i have used it, to store big backup files, those compressed with gzip on regular file system, will take something like 25GB, not compressed, it will be more like 80GB, and btrfs df report 76GB, i try "btrfs fi defrag -c" "force-compression", but nothing seems to work, any idea ? |
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| 08:32.49 | jelly | pido9: there seems to be a #btrfs channel here on freenode |
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| 08:34.18 | pido9 | jelly i am there too. and posted my question, an other guy with a far more technical one, then mine, more what you would see on a #kernel channel, but no answers so far for him and for me |
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| 08:34.45 | jelly | pido9: alright, be patient |
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| 08:35.47 | pido9 | jelly thanks ;-) ( i gonna share a croissant with you ;-) :) at least virtually ;-) |
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| 08:50.53 | hyppias | anyone succeeded in using a BT keyboard during BIOS startup? |
| 08:51.21 | arafangion | hyppias: Depends on how it's interfaced, I guess. If it's exposed as a USB keyboard, then some(most? all?) modern BIOSes will work fine. |
| 08:51.39 | arafangion | hyppias: But I don't know if any are USB-like. |
| 08:52.25 | hyppias | arafangion: then there is some bios code that works like a driver? |
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| 08:53.59 | arafangion | hyppias: All I know is that my BIOS allows me to use my freaking *mouse*. Your milleage may vary, but I suspect that as long as it's USB-compatible, then it might be fine. |
| 08:54.40 | Iridos | so what do you need a mouse for in bios menus |
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| 08:56.08 | bhuddah | to *click* :) |
| 08:56.09 | hyppias | hm.. i'll check for bios upgrade for my board... |
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| 08:59.19 | arafangion | Iridos: I don't, and unfortunately the mouse seems to have been an excuse for them to ahve a *bad* UI. |
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| 09:02.59 | mel- | hi |
| 09:04.17 | mel- | I am seeing this plymouth-behaviour (-> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=707765) in a freshly setup debian testing. but it seems to be a different bug, since there does not seem to be this dejavu-fonts related problem on my system (it's supposed to be fixed since a few versions). |
| 09:04.27 | mel- | Any idea what could be going on? |
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| 09:05.17 | mel- | (doesn't matter which plymouth theme I install... everytime it tries to display text I only see white rectangle.s) |
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| 09:13.35 | rrios | Hey. I just installed debian netimst |
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| 09:15.16 | f8l | rrios: Congratulations. ;-) |
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| 09:16.32 | rrios | (i think) on an asus zenbook, but after it boots, it spits out some boot text and the screen goes blank. What do? |
| 09:16.46 | Twinkletoes | I have 2 small computers, which are only used as vpn clients for their local networks. However, occasionally the networking seems to fail... even when I Try to ssh into the box, I get refused immediately. The only course of action is a reboot (which fixes it for about a day). I don't have console access because it's remote - are there any suggestions how I Can begin troubleshooting this? |
| 09:16.50 | babilen | rrios: Please don't cross-posrt. Thank you! |
| 09:16.57 | rrios | f8l: (trimmed message) |
| 09:17.17 | rrios | Okay, i thought both channels were unrelated |
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| 09:18.11 | f8l | Where to seek help regarding tc? I have a problem with tc-tbf, but I'm aware this might be off-topic here. |
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| 09:19.13 | boycottg00gle | f8l: long time ago lartc did have some docs and there is the iproute-doc package |
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| 09:19.33 | boycottg00gle | f8l: or maybe iproute2-doc? |
| 09:19.52 | f8l | rrios: Modesetting may fail… It may be question of a graphic card driver. Which card is it? |
| 09:20.05 | boycottg00gle | f8l: docu in that area was bad (don't know wether it improved) |
| 09:20.13 | rrios | I have to look it up |
| 09:20.23 | rrios | Disabling it worked for.now |
| 09:20.42 | rrios | Thanks |
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| 09:21.20 | f8l | boycottg00gle: LARTC is what I try to follow. The problem is tc in my case behaves differently than documented, or I misunderstood something. |
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| 09:24.24 | boycottg00gle | f8l: sorry can't really help - didn't look at that stuff for a long time |
| 09:24.41 | f8l | boycottg00gle: Thank you anyway. :-) |
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| 09:36.04 | morsicus | HI everybody, i'm trying to install a complete colution to backup all my servers. I've tried Baccula and Amanda but it's not exactly what i want. Do you have any suggestions ? |
| 09:36.10 | morsicus | solution * |
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| 09:41.44 | bhuddah | morsicus: backuppc is nice and simple for backup to disk |
| 09:43.33 | dioz | black and yellow black and yellow |
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| 09:50.40 | lzzluca | Hi all! Can i move the /var folder using a symbolic link? I was thinking about something like: |
| 09:50.44 | lzzluca | mkdir /home/var |
| 09:50.51 | lzzluca | ln -s /var /home/var |
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| 09:50.57 | lzzluca | someone did that? |
| 09:50.58 | bhuddah | lzzluca: WHY? |
| 09:51.12 | lzzluca | bhuddah i got low space for root, i left 500MB |
| 09:51.31 | bhuddah | lzzluca: just mount a volumen for /var |
| 09:51.35 | bhuddah | -n |
| 09:52.00 | lzzluca | bhuddah sorry... what do you mean by "mount a volume" ? |
| 09:52.09 | bhuddah | like you did for /home |
| 09:52.31 | bhuddah | create a filesystem and a partition or logical volume for /var and mount it after copying all the stuff |
| 09:52.46 | dioz | assuming he has it originally setup for /var /home /etc all being on different partitions |
| 09:52.51 | boycottg00gle | other solutions: use a bind mount, resize root fs |
| 09:52.55 | dioz | and his var partition has filled because of log maintenance |
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| 09:53.06 | dioz | he's looking to extend or grow his /var partition |
| 09:53.11 | dioz | is what i gathered from his text |
| 09:53.18 | dioz | but i could be wrong given the provided information |
| 09:53.42 | lzzluca | well, my root partition is 10 GB and it is almost full. I would like to move a folder to free some space |
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| 09:53.57 | bhuddah | lzzluca: can you provide the output of df -h please? |
| 09:53.58 | lzzluca | i thought about /var because is the the bigger one, my home is already separated |
| 09:54.01 | lzzluca | sure |
| 09:54.16 | bhuddah | lzzluca: i was thinking of something along the path of http://serverfault.com/questions/429937/how-to-move-var-to-another-existing-partition |
| 09:54.21 | lzzluca | Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on |
| 09:54.21 | lzzluca | /dev/sda1 9.2G 8.0G 768M 92% / |
| 09:54.21 | lzzluca | tmpfs 2.0G 0 2.0G 0% /lib/init/rw |
| 09:54.21 | lzzluca | udev 2.0G 240K 2.0G 1% /dev |
| 09:54.21 | lzzluca | tmpfs 2.0G 140K 2.0G 1% /dev/shm |
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| 09:54.49 | bhuddah | *sighs* |
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| 09:55.11 | x-s4nd3r | bhuddah: surely, sighing in #debian is a thing a man must not do. |
| 09:55.20 | boycottg00gle | !paste |
| 09:55.21 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 09:55.34 | lzzluca | i always forgot to use paste.debian.net, sorry |
| 09:55.40 | bhuddah | lzzluca: wb. |
| 09:56.03 | boycottg00gle | imho that bot should warn first |
| 09:56.13 | bhuddah | lzzluca: i guess you want to do something along what i linked.. but setting up a new partition would be better, if you still have free space |
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| 09:56.31 | lzzluca | bhuddah wb? |
| 09:56.44 | dioz | irc has a set of rules sir |
| 09:56.44 | lzzluca | bhuddah i am checking the link right now |
| 09:56.50 | dioz | and you seem to be breaking all of them |
| 09:58.37 | lzzluca | bhuddah ok i have already seen that. My concern is: when i had to move /opt, i just copied it in another partition and created the symbolic link |
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| 09:58.50 | lzzluca | bhuddah why i got so much more work for /var ? |
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| 09:59.20 | lzzluca | bhuddah (sorry for my stupid question but i am not used to move stuff...) |
| 09:59.44 | bhuddah | lzzluca: /var is central part of the os. you can't really move it on the running system |
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| 10:01.27 | tgs3 | any easy way to recover if someone did chown -R foobar / ? |
| 10:01.51 | bhuddah | tgs3: restore :) |
| 10:01.53 | tgs3 | what wouldbe fastest way without reinstall of system? chmod -R root / , /home/ fixes are obvious, .. what next |
| 10:01.56 | tgs3 | bhuddah: no backup |
| 10:01.59 | bhuddah | ouch |
| 10:02.22 | bhuddah | will reinstalling all packages fix the ownership? |
| 10:02.28 | tgs3 | yeah |
| 10:02.42 | lzzluca | bhuddah ok... that makes sense... i go with it at the moment but i still feel a little bit unsure. Thanks! |
| 10:02.44 | tgs3 | though you need purge to fix files in /etc/ and purge will forget old settings |
| 10:03.05 | bhuddah | files in etc will mostly be root:root |
| 10:03.12 | bhuddah | that can be fixed by hand |
| 10:03.23 | bhuddah | the hard part are spool and tmpfiles |
| 10:04.04 | Mackwerk | is there some way to monitor files that are being moved around? :o |
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| 10:05.33 | bhuddah | Mackwerk: how do you mean that? |
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| 10:05.47 | cooldharma06 | hi |
| 10:06.08 | Mackwerk | bhuddah, well I'm trying to figure out why I'm getting load spikes and I suspect it is because postgres is moving some files around |
| 10:06.13 | Mackwerk | IO spikes* |
| 10:06.34 | cooldharma06 | mount -t xenfs xenfs /proc/xen |
| 10:06.35 | cooldharma06 | mount: unknown filesystem type 'xenfs' |
| 10:06.44 | cooldharma06 | how to resolve this one |
| 10:07.17 | dioz | lzzluca: LVM2 is pimp |
| 10:07.19 | dioz | btw |
| 10:07.25 | dioz | just a side note |
| 10:07.36 | dioz | zfs, whatever |
| 10:07.38 | bhuddah | Mackwerk: you can use iostat and lsof and iotop |
| 10:08.15 | bhuddah | cooldharma06: syntax error |
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| 10:08.45 | Mackwerk | bhuddah, does lsof update itself when a file would open? iostat and iotop doesn't show what disks are being written/read to/from that's what I want though |
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| 10:10.17 | lzzluca | dioz i don' know it, i am googling! |
| 10:11.10 | cooldharma06 | sorry this one..mount -t xenfs none /proc/xen.. |
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| 10:12.38 | bhuddah | Mackwerk: no idea. but you can always use watch |
| 10:13.08 | bhuddah | Mackwerk: and iostat shows what disks it writes to |
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| 10:13.32 | dioz | you'll need to boot into rescue mode |
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| 10:13.53 | freezer | hi |
| 10:14.14 | freezer | what's the best software firewall distro to use in a datacenter? |
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| 10:15.10 | bhuddah | freezer: at least 2 different ;) |
| 10:15.38 | cooldharma06 | anybody know mount -t xenfs none /proc/xen. shows unknown file system error how to resolve it |
| 10:15.53 | bhuddah | cooldharma06: don't flood. |
| 10:15.58 | freezer | bhuddah, can u recommend some? |
| 10:16.07 | cooldharma06 | ok |
| 10:16.34 | bhuddah | freezer: depends on the size of the dc. ipfire is nice. |
| 10:17.13 | Mackwerk | bhuddah, but iostat doesn't show which process is doing the writing :p |
| 10:17.30 | bhuddah | Mackwerk: yes. but that is shown by iotop |
| 10:17.35 | freezer | bhuddah, it's mostly management traffic and some backups. should not be too much |
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| 10:18.00 | bhuddah | freezer: strange place for a firewall |
| 10:18.10 | Mackwerk | bhuddah, yes, but there's no way (that I know of) to link a process to a specific disk |
| 10:18.13 | bhuddah | but then ipfire should be fine |
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| 10:18.37 | bhuddah | Mackwerk: thats the hard part. just look and see what matches. |
| 10:18.51 | dioz | pfsense! |
| 10:19.03 | dioz | seems they're ramping up testing before they release the new version |
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| 10:19.06 | dioz | there's nightly builds |
| 10:19.41 | bhuddah | yeah, and pfsense... |
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| 10:20.53 | freezer | my coworker also recommended pfsense |
| 10:21.04 | freezer | you guys think it's solid? |
| 10:21.08 | bhuddah | yes. |
| 10:21.40 | bhuddah | but for high security environments you should at least have two tiers of firewall with different technology |
| 10:22.05 | dioz | freezer: if you're looking for IDS/IPS use SNORT too |
| 10:22.50 | bhuddah | dioz++ |
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| 10:23.34 | dioz | i like the community driven aspect but i wonder if there's flaws in the model |
| 10:23.51 | dioz | open isn't necessarily good in all cases |
| 10:24.03 | freezer | i mainly need routing with tagged VLAN |
| 10:24.06 | freezer | nothing fancy |
| 10:24.23 | bhuddah | maybe a simple hardware router would be the right thing |
| 10:24.25 | dioz | vconfig and br0's |
| 10:24.56 | bhuddah | or a layer 3 switch |
| 10:25.13 | dioz | or a layer 2 switch that is vlan aware |
| 10:25.24 | bhuddah | o0? |
| 10:25.27 | dioz | and router on a stick |
| 10:25.44 | bhuddah | stick? |
| 10:25.57 | dioz | a single port router |
| 10:26.11 | dioz | to route between vlans |
| 10:26.18 | bhuddah | that's a crappy hack but yes.. it would work :) |
| 10:26.29 | dioz | it's a cisco term i do believe |
| 10:26.32 | dioz | "router on a stick" |
| 10:26.36 | freezer | the problem at the moment is we need something really quick |
| 10:26.50 | freezer | we could probably switch to a hardware solution later on |
| 10:27.11 | Rydekull | http://twitter.github.io/scala_school/ |
| 10:27.11 | dioz | it's a linux box? |
| 10:27.20 | bhuddah | well. you should've all the hardware already if you're in a dc ^^ |
| 10:27.37 | bhuddah | but a quick linux hack can always help |
| 10:28.16 | dioz | 04:28 |
| 10:28.22 | dioz | 3 hours and 30 minutes left |
| 10:28.30 | bhuddah | until? |
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| 10:29.14 | dioz | graveyard #1 is completed |
| 10:29.18 | dioz | got 5 of them |
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| 10:29.59 | bhuddah | ? |
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| 10:30.43 | ws2k3 | Hello my mysql server is not starting on boot i am able to start it using /etc/init.d/mysql start |
| 10:30.47 | nkuttler | dioz: overtired work.. always the best |
| 10:31.10 | nkuttler | ws2k3: look into verbosity/debug settings for the log |
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| 10:31.23 | dioz | nkuttler: i flipped to this schedule last night. spent last night reading solaris documentation(s) |
| 10:31.43 | dioz | i'm gravy for the week. basically just make sure nothing goes horribly wrong |
| 10:31.47 | bhuddah | ws2k3: and use update-rc.d |
| 10:32.23 | nkuttler | ws2k3: right, make sure you didn't disable the init script |
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| 10:32.39 | ws2k3 | well its a self compiled mysql so i did not used apt-get install mysql |
| 10:32.49 | bhuddah | ws2k3: WHYYYYY? |
| 10:33.04 | ws2k3 | because by boss wants :P |
| 10:33.07 | nkuttler | ws2k3: why do you expect it to run then? |
| 10:33.20 | ws2k3 | because it works on many other servers as wel |
| 10:33.28 | nkuttler | ws2k3: do you know how init scripts work? did you write one? |
| 10:33.43 | ws2k3 | no its the defauly mysql file |
| 10:33.50 | ws2k3 | from te /etc/init.d directory |
| 10:33.54 | bhuddah | and how could it work on all the other systems? |
| 10:34.02 | nkuttler | ws2k3: anyway, logging |
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| 10:34.56 | ws2k3 | how exacly do you mean logging |
| 10:35.25 | bhuddah | big chunks of wood |
| 10:35.52 | nkuttler | ws2k3: you build a mysqld and replace the one Debian ships and you don't know what logging is? |
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| 10:36.15 | ws2k3 | well i do know what logging is |
| 10:36.21 | ws2k3 | but which one mysql logging syslog? |
| 10:36.39 | bhuddah | that where you expect the start to fail |
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| 10:36.55 | bhuddah | as you have configured the system you know where it tries to start the db |
| 10:37.09 | nkuttler | for all we know you have a syntax error in your init script.. or no links to it |
| 10:37.10 | ws2k3 | i hav just placed the script in the init.d directury |
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| 10:37.21 | nkuttler | yeah, that doesn't do anything |
| 10:37.25 | bhuddah | mhm |
| 10:37.36 | bhuddah | but if it is complete, then you can use update-rc.d |
| 10:38.18 | ws2k3 | hmm |
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| 10:38.26 | ws2k3 | the server install script dont have a update-rc.d |
| 10:38.37 | ws2k3 | so thats not the way we usewely do it |
| 10:38.40 | bhuddah | it is an executable which is part of debian |
| 10:38.52 | ws2k3 | yeah i know |
| 10:39.00 | bhuddah | but how do you do it? |
| 10:39.17 | ws2k3 | i just placed the mysql file in /etc/init.d |
| 10:39.22 | ws2k3 | there is not realy anything else |
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| 10:39.48 | bhuddah | this only works if mysql from debian was installed beforehand and not removed clean |
| 10:40.36 | ws2k3 | thats not true because i have many servers running and all installed the same way all self compiled mysql server and we just copyed the file in /etc/init.d |
| 10:41.11 | bhuddah | so somebody secretly fixed your problems then :) |
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| 10:41.22 | ws2k3 | haha nope |
| 10:41.23 | bhuddah | it should not work from what you told us. |
| 10:41.26 | bhuddah | so it was by accident. |
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| 10:41.36 | ws2k3 | ah so i'm running 60 servers by accidant |
| 10:41.41 | bhuddah | yes. |
| 10:41.42 | ws2k3 | hmms thats kinda odd |
| 10:41.44 | bhuddah | i am afraid. :) |
| 10:41.44 | ws2k3 | hahah dude |
| 10:42.13 | ws2k3 | no thats not the case it most be something else |
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| 10:42.22 | bhuddah | seriously.. do you want to poke fun at us or do you want to annoy the crap out of me? |
| 10:42.25 | ws2k3 | some premissions that ar enot correctly otr something |
| 10:42.35 | ws2k3 | both not |
| 10:42.38 | bhuddah | okay :) |
| 10:42.42 | bhuddah | then.. |
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| 10:43.06 | bhuddah | try to add the symlink to rc2.d or something like it is supposed to work by hand and see if it works then. |
| 10:43.25 | bhuddah | or just use the update-rc.d and see if it works |
| 10:43.25 | dioz | us |
| 10:43.47 | ws2k3 | where can i find that file |
| 10:43.49 | ws2k3 | update-rc.d |
| 10:44.09 | ws2k3 | ah its a command not a file |
| 10:44.28 | bhuddah | yes. |
| 10:44.32 | ws2k3 | but when i update that it probarly will work only thats not a sollution to the problem because then i still dont know why it does not work now |
| 10:44.38 | ws2k3 | if other servers have the exact same setup |
| 10:45.35 | bhuddah | no they do not. |
| 10:45.45 | ws2k3 | ah wait |
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| 10:46.16 | bhuddah | serious guess: somebody added "/etc/init.d/mysql start" to rc.local :D |
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| 10:46.49 | ws2k3 | nope but i already found it |
| 10:47.06 | ws2k3 | at the end of rc.local a self written php script is runned |
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| 10:47.18 | bhuddah | hehehehe |
| 10:47.24 | ws2k3 | that sets the slave status and replication and at the end it does service mysql restart |
| 10:47.31 | ws2k3 | so your where right and wrong at the same time |
| 10:47.46 | bhuddah | well. i was right right and right :D |
| 10:47.51 | bhuddah | but it does not matter. |
| 10:47.56 | ws2k3 | still thanks |
| 10:47.58 | bhuddah | at least we've found the problem ;) |
| 10:47.58 | ws2k3 | :) |
| 10:48.07 | ws2k3 | nd secondly i have learned something again |
| 10:48.15 | bhuddah | maybe you should replace that with a more standard way. |
| 10:48.26 | ws2k3 | i know |
| 10:48.39 | ws2k3 | i'll be right back |
| 10:48.41 | nkuttler | ws2k3: the proper way to install newer versions of packages is to backport them anyway |
| 10:49.02 | ws2k3 | its a bit an older package |
| 10:49.07 | ws2k3 | 5.5-19 |
| 10:49.49 | ws2k3 | but i'm going to lunch will be back soon |
| 10:50.01 | bhuddah | hf |
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| 10:51.04 | caraconan | Hi all. Is somebody here using a refreshAndPersist OpenLDAP replication? I want to make some questions regarding different approaches. Thanks |
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| 10:51.53 | nkuttler | caraconan: for generic questions #ldap seems like a better place? |
| 10:52.20 | nkuttler | #openldap even |
| 10:52.28 | caraconan | Well, actually is more close to sysadmin + network + security than a pure LDAP question |
| 10:52.39 | caraconan | #openldap is almost died :) |
| 10:52.58 | bhuddah | caraconan: so.. what is your main concern? |
| 10:53.26 | caraconan | I want to replicate my LDAP directory to a DMZ server |
| 10:53.33 | caraconan | I have 2 options here: |
| 10:53.40 | caraconan | a) refreshAndPersist |
| 10:53.58 | caraconan | b) Open my firewall to allow direct LDAP request from DMZ to my OpenLDAP server |
| 10:54.23 | caraconan | Since the requests are encrypted under TLS I think option b) is better |
| 10:54.34 | bhuddah | yes. |
| 10:54.48 | bhuddah | you don't want your users and passwords stored in the dmz |
| 10:54.57 | caraconan | At the end the only thing that my OpenLDAP server will tell the Web app (redmine, mediawiki, zabbix and so on) is a "true" or "false" |
| 10:55.04 | caraconan | That's my point |
| 10:55.17 | caraconan | I think I will go for this approach, thanks |
| 10:55.22 | bhuddah | np |
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| 11:06.26 | lispghost | hi,all,can debian run on stm32 platform? |
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| 11:15.51 | asakura | it might be possible to run arm ports on stm32. |
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| 11:16.12 | lispghost | hm |
| 11:16.27 | lispghost | asakura, you mean armhf? |
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| 11:22.33 | asakura | i don't know stm32 has FPU. But if stm32 has FPU, armhf arch would work, if not, armel. |
| 11:23.12 | ws2k3 | hello my system has added a route but the route is still there afther reboot its not in rc.local and not in interfaces |
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| 11:23.23 | ws2k3 | so how can i find how how this route is being added afther the reboot |
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| 11:24.19 | bhuddah | ws2k3: try the ip tool "ip r" and so on |
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| 11:24.59 | ws2k3 | yeah but i remember that when i do ip route that its gone after reboot |
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| 11:25.11 | bhuddah | yes. it should |
| 11:25.23 | bhuddah | but maybe you have something installed that persists routes |
| 11:25.27 | ws2k3 | yeah thats how i dont understand |
| 11:26.32 | blastwave | am really confused about how to get a package called pdfedit on my debian version 7.1 laptop. I see here that pdfedit exists but only for sid or squeeze but nor wheezy : http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=pdfedit |
| 11:27.23 | blastwave | also /etc/debian_version says 7.1 but have no idea if that is wheezy or whatever |
| 11:27.39 | bhuddah | yes it is. |
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| 11:28.31 | blastwave | bhuddah, so really the only way to get pdfedit is to build it from sources? |
| 11:28.48 | bhuddah | maybe. look for alternatives |
| 11:29.35 | blastwave | has looked |
| 11:29.41 | bhuddah | damn |
| 11:29.44 | asakura | apt pinning is another way. |
| 11:29.44 | apt | ...but pinning is already something else... |
| 11:29.45 | bhuddah | no idea then |
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| 11:29.50 | blastwave | okay ... looks like sources only for wheezy |
| 11:29.57 | blastwave | thanks |
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| 11:56.06 | gribouille | hi |
| 11:56.18 | gribouille | is there a way to prent find from modifying access times without modifying the mount options? |
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| 12:00.25 | yanco | Hi ! I am interested for participate in debian project. I'm reading all the available documentation for beginners but I don't get some points. First, I want to adopt a package and being the maintainer, do I create a GPG key and sign with? do I need to validate my key from a debian developper and put it in the debian key server? I understand all technical concepts of private/public key, and how to do technically, but is it mandatory for me, new debianist? Thanks |
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| 12:00.59 | f8l | yanco: Go to #debian-mentors on OFTC. |
| 12:01.29 | jelly | !tell yanco about nmg |
| 12:02.09 | f8l | yanco: Being a DM is a hard job. If you're beginner, wait with the decision until you get to know Debian better. |
| 12:02.10 | jelly | you probably already found that one, but it doesn't hurt to repeat |
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| 12:02.40 | jelly | f8l: are you a dm or dd? |
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| 12:04.08 | f8l | jelly: No, but I tried to. I had too little free time. |
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| 12:05.31 | yanco | f8l: Thanks |
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| 12:08.27 | BNoiZe | Hi, I got accused of running DDoS-Attacks against another server. I already looked into auth.log to find any unauthorised logins, but there weren't any. Is there anything else I can look into to find out if my server is running DDoS-Attacks? |
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| 12:09.17 | jelly | BNoiZe: inspect outbound network traffic, for a start |
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| 12:10.03 | BNoiZe | I already tried to find any open connections which shouldn't be there, but also couldn't find anything |
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| 12:10.57 | BNoiZe | The report said that the attacks are running from port 80 which should be http |
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| 12:11.31 | jelly | "from" port 80 to "to" port 80 on the destination (supposed victim) site? |
| 12:12.38 | BNoiZe | That's what the report said, doesn't even sound plausible to me |
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| 12:14.01 | BNoiZe | 23:57:39.940736 IP *.*.*.158:80 > *.*.*.137:80: UDP, length 1368 |
| 12:14.22 | BNoiZe | This came with the mail from my server provider |
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| 12:14.27 | BNoiZe | (I got the full IPs) |
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| 12:14.39 | Onixs | random port to 80 mostly |
| 12:15.33 | abrotman | BNoiZe: ask them for logs showing it was you ? |
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| 12:25.42 | achadwick | solfern: xfce4-popup-applicationsmenu |
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| 12:26.33 | solfern | achadwick: Thank you very much, that's exactly I was looking for. |
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| 12:30.10 | cheater_1 | hello, and welcome to redhat sales. please hold your intercontinental phone call for three hours while we've all buggered off to a meeting, as confirmed by someone in customer support. |
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| 12:31.40 | berarma | !red hat |
| 12:31.40 | dpkg | Fedora is the Red Hat-derived distribution of Linux, although it is not supported by Red Hat officially, you can get help from the community: #fedora on irc.freenode.net. http://fedoraproject.org/ |
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| 12:32.00 | cheater_1 | if it were only a phone call about buying linux |
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| 12:32.09 | cheater_1 | sadly it's some java nightmare |
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| 12:40.40 | Otaku_ | Could it be that mkisofs has problems with copy protection ? |
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| 12:47.03 | bhuddah | Otaku_: how do you mean that? |
| 12:47.35 | Otaku_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6002698/ |
| 12:47.52 | Otaku_ | In /etc/fstab: /dev/sr0 /mnt/sr0 auto ro,noauto,sync,users 0 0 |
| 12:48.06 | bhuddah | Otaku_: yes. i don't think this is supposed to work. |
| 12:48.16 | Otaku_ | why? |
| 12:48.42 | Otaku_ | when i make a iso with dd, mount it and then use mkisofs to the folder, it works |
| 12:49.32 | bhuddah | yes. of course. |
| 12:50.13 | bhuddah | that dvd stuff is really strange. try to use a specialized tool to make a clone. |
| 12:50.40 | Otaku_ | dd works perfect, but is also copies the zeros at the end and this is a waste of space |
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| 12:51.03 | bhuddah | yep. that is why specialized tools are great for this |
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| 12:52.15 | BNoiZe | abrotman: I asked my provider if he has more informations. They told me, that the mail was only a warning and sent me the Mail they got again |
| 12:52.30 | BNoiZe | So nothing that really helped me |
| 12:52.58 | Otaku_ | Can you recomment me some? |
| 12:53.11 | cheater_1 | "i'll have your email address please" "wouldn't like to give it out" "but what if we want to contact you?" "you have my phone number" "it's just for getting a hold of you" "well you're supposed to give me a callback" "you don't have an email address, even private or something like that?" "not at this time, no" "ok, i have all the details. it's too bad you were unable to give us your email address, in case we want to get in touch with you, |
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| 12:54.43 | berarma | Otaku_: you can use dd to make a clone, don't mind the zeros at the end |
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| 12:54.56 | Otaku_ | why? |
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| 12:55.25 | Otaku_ | DD makes a 8,2GB .iso file, even when only 6GB are used. |
| 12:55.43 | ZIPY | dd copys all also free space |
| 12:55.55 | ZIPY | whole partition bitwise |
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| 12:56.13 | berarma | the partition on a DVD doesn't need to be the whole DVD |
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| 12:56.31 | berarma | is there free space in that DVD? normally there's not |
| 12:56.46 | Otaku_ | DD made a 8,2GB iso |
| 12:56.59 | ZIPY | you can dd and then make a rar file forexample |
| 12:57.10 | Otaku_ | when i used mkisofs to the mounted folder i got an 6,5GB iso |
| 12:57.30 | berarma | Otaku_: if you try to copy the folder files you're messing up the DVD format |
| 12:57.42 | Otaku_ | ? |
| 12:57.43 | berarma | you end with a smaller image but it's messed up |
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| 12:57.58 | Otaku_ | It works fine |
| 12:58.17 | berarma | then what are you asking? |
| 12:58.44 | bhuddah | "works"? in a standard conform dvd player? |
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| 12:59.03 | Otaku_ | Making iso with DD, then mounting iso and making another iso with mkisofs -> TO COMPLICATED for 70 CDs/DVDs i have to rip |
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| 13:00.02 | Otaku_ | bhuddah: I don'T need it working in a DVD player, just on my Cumputer. |
| 13:00.12 | Otaku_ | and there are also games and software i want to rip |
| 13:00.17 | Otaku_ | only a few movies |
| 13:00.44 | bhuddah | well okay. |
| 13:00.50 | abrotman | BNoiZe: that's not helpful :) |
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| 13:00.54 | bhuddah | then you don't have to care about the format |
| 13:01.24 | Otaku_ | why is mkisofs not working when i mount the DVD directly? |
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| 13:02.04 | jelly | heh, hertzner |
| 13:02.10 | jelly | s/r// |
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| 13:03.08 | Otaku_ | could you recommend me a GUI tool? |
| 13:03.41 | jelly | BNoiZe: can your provider confirm the traffic came from your MAC address and not some other machine in the same segment? It's not hard to spoof udp traffic. |
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| 13:05.19 | BNoiZe | jelly: That's a good question, trying to find this out. Currently running tcpdump on UDP Port 80 to find out if there are any connections going on |
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| 13:06.52 | jelly | BNoiZe: in any case: if that traffic came from your machine, the attacker had root access so if you think the report is truthful, you can't be sure of _anything_ running on the same OS. |
| 13:07.44 | BNoiZe | jelly: As I said before, there hasn't been any unauthorized access to my machine. Already checked auth.loh |
| 13:08.18 | jelly | BNoiZe: you would not see that in the logs or anywhere, if the perp is competent enough. |
| 13:08.28 | jelly | BNoiZe: which debian release are you using? |
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| 13:10.00 | BNoiZe | jelly: wheezy, everything is up-to-date |
| 13:10.01 | Otaku_ | I'll give K3b a try |
| 13:10.44 | jelly | BNoiZe: what kind of publicly available services are there? web server? |
| 13:11.43 | BNoiZe | jelly: apache2, icecast2, sshd that should be all |
| 13:12.19 | BNoiZe | And I just found out, that there is a running connection to undernet IRC-Server |
| 13:12.30 | jelly | BNoiZe: just found out? |
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| 13:13.22 | BNoiZe | Yes, I don't now from where this is coming and it looks like httpd is using the connection |
| 13:13.34 | BNoiZe | Running tcpdump to see network traffic |
| 13:13.54 | bhuddah | which ports? |
| 13:14.02 | cardiel | is there anyone more here who have problems with mouse scrolling in iceweasel 21-23? |
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| 13:14.37 | jelly | BNoiZe: care to pastebin the output of lsof -np pid-keeping-that-connection-open |
| 13:14.48 | BNoiZe | One moment |
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| 13:15.55 | BNoiZe | http://pastie.org/pastes/create |
| 13:16.12 | BNoiZe | Damn, my paste script is crap |
| 13:16.46 | BNoiZe | jelly: http://pastebin.com/EyVeX3um |
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| 13:17.23 | BNoiZe | bhuddah: dst: 6667 |
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| 13:17.41 | bhuddah | so it seems to be a irc connection |
| 13:17.54 | bhuddah | can't look at pastebin.com -.- blocked... |
| 13:17.59 | abrotman | you mean it's a connection to port 6667 ? |
| 13:18.09 | jelly | BNoiZe: is /home/soap/lib/init something you built? |
| 13:18.43 | BNoiZe | abrotman: yes |
| 13:18.47 | BNoiZe | bhuddah: http://nopaste.info/0d9133a5c5.html |
| 13:19.05 | jelly | BNoiZe: looks like a compiled irc bot. At least the "soap" user is compromised. |
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| 13:19.38 | BNoiZe | jelly: Can I see what exactly the bot is sending? |
| 13:19.42 | bhuddah | BNoiZe: are you sure it's not something you did yourself? |
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| 13:20.16 | BNoiZe | bhuddah: I haven't bee using this server for anything irc related |
| 13:20.17 | jelly | BNoiZe: you can try to strace the process |
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| 13:20.45 | bhuddah | BNoiZe: not that good... do you care for an analysis? or just wipe it and set it up from backup? |
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| 13:20.55 | abrotman | maybe he should take the box offline? |
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| 13:21.02 | jelly | s/maybe // |
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| 13:21.07 | bhuddah | ! |
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| 13:21.25 | abrotman | i meant instead of people continuing to ask him for further proof it's compromised |
| 13:21.37 | bhuddah | boot it to single user mode, backup the offending directory for analysis, set up the server again |
| 13:21.46 | abrotman | bhuddah: please stop |
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| 13:23.57 | bhuddah | what? |
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| 13:24.08 | BNoiZe | I'm going to cut the server from internet and then I will try find out more |
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| 13:33.24 | BNoiZe | jelly: Just one more question, shouldn't the binary for apache be /usr/sbin/apache2? |
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| 13:34.26 | bhuddah | in debian? yes. |
| 13:34.37 | jelly | BNoiZe: that's not apache, it's a bot that set its argv[0] ("command name" in the command line) to httpd |
| 13:35.13 | jelly | it's a typical trick for that kind of malware |
| 13:35.19 | BNoiZe | Then let's kill it |
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| 13:35.54 | jelly | it might be interesting to see what it does and figure out how it got there rather than just kill it, but that's up to you |
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| 13:37.31 | jelly | BNoiZe: but really, at this point you can't really trust that machine so the sane thing to do is boot a safe image |
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| 13:41.57 | jelly | Krigsforbryter: yes you need to umount first, and fsck has a -n parameter |
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| 13:42.42 | Krigsforbryter | ok, tnx jelly then it will be some downtime :/ |
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| 13:44.41 | BNoiZe | jelly: Just shutted the internet for this server down, we found out, that it's a backdoor trojan |
| 13:45.28 | colo-work | D: |
| 13:45.37 | BNoiZe | hidden inside muh irc bouncer. we are currently trying to find out where it came from |
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| 13:57.00 | jelly | BNoiZe: the most common entry point: badly written web php apps |
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| 13:57.41 | BNoiZe | maybe |
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| 13:59.02 | qu3sti0n | What is debian's beef with the Open Watcom Public License from sybase? |
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| 14:00.43 | themill | qu3sti0n: that's a very easy question for google to answer |
| 14:00.49 | qu3sti0n | I am a user, stuck in the middle of some squabble between projects/licenses, and all I get is a crappy outdated version |
| 14:01.48 | themill | qu3sti0n: tell oracle to stop being silly and stop pretending that intermediate assembler output is source code then |
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| 14:01.49 | qu3sti0n | url themill? google not finding anything |
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| 14:02.21 | jelly | qu3sti0n: look at the lists.debian.org results for https://www.google.com/search?q=dfsg+open+watcom+public+license |
| 14:02.40 | qu3sti0n | listen, Im not the messenger, Im not going to relay messages. I am just trying to bring two sides together so that we can have a working program |
| 14:03.22 | themill | qu3sti0n: the only way to "bring the sides together" is to get oracle to behave and the only way they are going to do that (if at all) is if more people tell them this. |
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| 14:05.08 | jelly | themill: where does oracle come into that picture from, anyway |
| 14:05.20 | themill | jelly: the question is actually about virtualbox |
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| 14:05.34 | jelly | blinks |
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| 14:05.57 | themill | polishes the ESP antenna a little more |
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| 14:07.50 | themill | qu3sti0n: btw the most recent version of virtualbox is in debian's non-free repo. You should ask whatever derivative it is you are using these questions. |
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| 14:15.38 | juan123 | why is the backports repo so small |
| 14:18.23 | jelly | juan123: because it takes extra time to manage and maintain multiple versions of software at the same time |
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| 14:18.48 | themill | and there's no point in backporting everything |
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| 14:19.31 | juan123 | jelly: the one i made a backup of checked out to be around 6GB. does that sound about right? |
| 14:20.14 | jelly | juan123: well let me log in to a debian mirror and run du! |
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| 14:21.26 | themill | no |
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| 14:21.44 | themill | http://paste.debian.net/27054/ |
| 14:22.19 | jelly | curse you, unified pool/ directory |
| 14:22.31 | juan123 | talk about non human readable format |
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| 14:23.08 | jelly | 19 and nine more digits = 19GB |
| 14:23.21 | themill | meh http://paste.debian.net/27055/ |
| 14:23.28 | juan123 | thanks |
| 14:24.09 | jelly | themill: order by 1 asc! |
| 14:24.13 | jelly | hides |
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| 14:24.33 | themill | dpkg, spank jelly |
| 14:24.33 | dpkg | bends jelly over her knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
| 14:24.58 | juan123 | i only made a backup of 1 arch though so i guess that explains the discrepancy |
| 14:25.08 | themill | "backup"? |
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| 14:25.27 | juan123 | yeah |
| 14:25.27 | jelly | mirror? |
| 14:25.31 | jelly | clone? |
| 14:25.33 | themill | (also, that data doesn't include the source packages) |
| 14:25.33 | juan123 | mirror |
| 14:25.34 | jelly | snapshot? |
| 14:25.44 | juan123 | snapshot of the mirror |
| 14:26.01 | jelly | hopes juan123 will not be REDISTRIBUTING packages without SOURCES |
| 14:26.16 | juan123 | what is the purpose of debian-src btw |
| 14:26.26 | themill | you've heard of free software |
| 14:27.01 | juan123 | is it purely just for tin-hatters |
| 14:27.07 | juan123 | debian-src? |
| 14:27.24 | jelly | !deb-src |
| 14:27.24 | dpkg | 'deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ [wheezy|squeeze|jessie|sid] main contrib non-free' (for example), replace with your own for a local mirror. Ask me about <source> for some information about how to build stuff, make sure the "build-essential" package is installed. You might need to have linux-headers-$(uname -r) (if using a Debian kernel) and the libc6-dev packages installed. |
| 14:27.41 | jelly | that... wasn't too explanatoty |
| 14:28.13 | juan123 | does it gentooize debian |
| 14:28.34 | themill | juan123: For many (most?) debian packages, if you distribute compiled versions, it is your legal responsibility to also distribute the source code. |
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| 14:28.46 | juan123 | oh |
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| 14:29.33 | juan123 | im just keeping the mirror snapshop for myself so i guess i dont need it then |
| 14:29.48 | themill | wonders why juan123 is making a mirror at all |
| 14:30.26 | juan123 | cause i can get 10GB in 10minutes at uni. but at home its much slower |
| 14:30.51 | boudiccas | i've got gpg-agent running as a daemon, but when i try to start creating a new key [from http://keyring.debian.org/creating-key.html] and using 'gpg --gen-key' it says 'bash: --gen-key: command not found' how can i create a key then please? |
| 14:31.17 | themill | in downloading packages you don't need, all you are doing is racking up bandwidth costs for people who have donated bandwidth to Debian |
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| 14:31.43 | juan123 | its on my local domain "edu" at uni |
| 14:31.44 | themill | boudiccas: full command and full output in a pastebin please. Usual story. You know how it goes. |
| 14:31.54 | boudiccas | themill, okay |
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| 14:34.05 | boudiccas | themill, http://paste.debian.net/27058/ |
| 14:35.03 | themill | boudiccas: I suspect you haven't typed the command you think you have. Have another go |
| 14:36.22 | boudiccas | no difference when i type it in, as compared to cut n'paste |
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| 14:37.22 | themill | What does "type -a gpg" output? |
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| 14:38.53 | boudiccas | themill, type -a gp gpg is aliased to `nohup gpg-agent --daemon &' gpg is /usr/bin/gpg |
| 14:38.59 | jelly | pfft |
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| 14:41.06 | boudiccas | sorted, i think |
| 14:42.07 | themill | that would have to be one of the ugliest aliases I've seen in a long time |
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| 14:44.33 | juan123 | how come it took 3 years to stabilize sarge |
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| 14:45.49 | themill | it didn't |
| 14:45.51 | jelly | it was the best of times; it was the worst of times |
| 14:46.38 | juan123 | the trend has been 2 years but sarge was the exception |
| 14:46.53 | themill | that's the time between releases, not the time to stabilise |
| 14:46.53 | jelly | juan123: the trend is, actually, a deception |
| 14:46.57 | cardiel | someone having problem with mouse scrolling in iceweasel 21-23? and is it possible to solve the problem? |
| 14:48.00 | juan123 | jelly and themill when are u going to switch to jessie? |
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| 14:49.08 | jelly | juan123: depends on which machine you're asking about... my workstations may be running wheezy with sid kernels. My servers may be running anything from woody to wheezy. |
| 14:49.15 | juan123 | cardiel: its strange that only iseweasel is affected |
| 14:49.37 | jelly | juan123: and a netbook or laptop might not be running debian AT ALL!!!11 |
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| 14:52.27 | linduxed | can i mirror an active drive with software raid? |
| 14:53.11 | linduxed | i've got a system drive with / and /home on it, but i've also got another drive of the same size that i'd like to be a mirror of the first one |
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| 14:55.08 | epsilon | linduxed: nope, cause raid is before partitions/filesystem |
| 14:55.52 | boycottg00gle | (you could have created the software raid in degraded state) |
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| 14:56.11 | epsilon | but you can do instead: create raid on 2nd empty drive, you can create raid1 with one drive. just tell mdadm 2nd disk is empty |
| 14:56.29 | whitegirl | linduxed: You would need to make a raid partition on that second drive first, make sure it's initated with a missing drive, then copy everything over to it. Then make it bootable, while making the non-raided one non-bootable |
| 14:56.40 | epsilon | then boot from 2nd drive and add 1st drive into raid1 |
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| 14:57.01 | whitegirl | Then you boot from the raided partition. It will tell you it's missing a drive. So then you format your old drive the same way |
| 14:57.21 | whitegirl | Like epsilon said. This is just for raid1 though. raid0 that is of course not possible |
| 15:00.22 | linduxed | whitegirl: it's raid1 i'm after, so i'll try that |
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| 15:00.44 | linduxed | are there some readily available instructions for this process, or will i just have to google around |
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| 15:02.59 | whitegirl | linduxed: Might be some guide specific for Debian if you search around. Personally I find the Arch Wiki a good guideline for the process, but it's just that, a guideline: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Convert_a_single_drive_system_to_RAID |
| 15:04.47 | linduxed | well i'll go with the wiki entry then |
| 15:04.50 | linduxed | that's a good start |
| 15:04.52 | linduxed | thx |
| 15:05.14 | whitegirl | I just saw it mentioned Debian, so might be somewhat universal |
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| 15:34.44 | juan123 | is it possible to make debian's fonts as good as ubuntu's? |
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| 15:36.17 | ezra-s | juan123, you can use the ubuntu family fonts, but I am not sure if debian has antialiasing/hinting finetuned as much |
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| 15:37.18 | juan123 | ezra-s: that's too bad. debian should do something about it |
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| 15:37.59 | rudi_s | juan123: Get started and send patches ;-) |
| 15:38.05 | ezra-s | hehe |
| 15:38.08 | keyvin | juan123, Debian is a volunteer effort. If you want, you could try to make the fonts better! |
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| 15:38.28 | juan123 | im on my way, im getting a degree in CS |
| 15:38.48 | rudi_s | juan123: You don't need a degree to help :-) |
| 15:39.02 | rudi_s | And more help is always welcome. |
| 15:39.11 | juan123 | it would be difficult without the knowledge |
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| 15:39.51 | jordemort | is cranky and is just gonna keep his mouth shut |
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| 15:42.43 | musca | juan123: the buzzwords from ezra-s lead me to this http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=27569 |
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| 15:44.18 | juan123 | 2nd last post in that thread sounds like me |
| 15:44.49 | jordemort | juan123: patches welcome :P |
| 15:44.58 | ezra-s | musca, buzzwords? |
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| 15:45.59 | musca | ezra-s: debian ... antialiasing/hinting |
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| 15:46.47 | juan123 | fonts have probably improved quite a bit since then, that was in 08 |
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| 15:47.04 | ezra-s | font antialiasing/hinting is commonly heared when talking about desktop looks |
| 15:48.04 | ezra-s | I apologize If I don't get the exact meaning of "buzzwords" since english is not my first language, I kind of fail to grasp the concept, no biggy though |
| 15:50.37 | juan123 | buzzwords are usually words made up to help market computer products. apple is pretty big on them. words like 'retina display' and 'cloud computing' |
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| 15:51.14 | ezra-s | antialiasing font and hinting are no buzzwords then |
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| 15:51.29 | mtn | ezra-s: you are correct :) |
| 15:51.30 | juan123 | well i could be wrong actually |
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| 15:52.16 | ezra-s | it does no matter, let's "buzz" on |
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| 15:52.17 | ezra-s | hehe |
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| 15:52.26 | mtn | A buzzword is a word or phrase used to impress, or is fashionable. Buzzwords often originate in jargon. Buzzwords are often neologisms |
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| 15:52.48 | bhuddah | is buzzword itself a buzzword? |
| 15:52.53 | mtn | heh |
| 15:52.57 | ezra-s | mtn, thanks for the clarification :) |
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| 15:54.09 | juan123 | neologism is a newly coined term, word, or phrase, that may be in the process of entering common use, but has not yet been accepted into mainstream language |
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| 15:54.34 | mtn | aren't we getting educated, hardly hurts at all |
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| 15:55.14 | ezra-s | musca, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Font_hinting http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antialiasing |
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| 15:56.01 | musca | ok, thx. |
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| 15:58.16 | ezra-s | juan123, in debian nowadays I believe you use gnome-shell, there is a tweak tool for gnome so you can adjust that |
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| 15:58.32 | ezra-s | juan123, there is a google site with awesome looking fonts too |
| 15:58.39 | ezra-s | juan123, let me look it up for you |
| 15:58.55 | ezra-s | juan123, http://www.google.com/fonts |
| 15:58.59 | juan123 | i guess it's more about the antialiasing used than the font itself |
| 15:59.58 | juan123 | fonts do actually look pretty good on wheezy by default really, just not quite as good as ubuntu. |
| 16:00.11 | juan123 | better than fedora though |
| 16:00.33 | mtn | juan123: and using tweak tool you can adjust the fonts and make them look even better. |
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| 16:02.07 | ezra-s | juan123, specially recommended, droid sans/serif, open sans, and noto sans/serif |
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| 16:08.03 | linduxed | ls |
| 16:08.09 | bhuddah | no |
| 16:08.09 | linduxed | damn it, wrong window |
| 16:10.06 | linduxed | when i plug my three extra drives in one by one into my laptop (with a SATA docking station) they all work (can be mounted/partitioned/show-up-in-/dev) |
| 16:10.21 | linduxed | when i plug them into my server, i can't see them all |
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| 16:12.08 | bytes | hey, i'm running debian 7 stable and i was wondering how i would go about getting a newer version of eclipse? |
| 16:12.13 | bytes | i'm not too familiar of backporting |
| 16:12.36 | bytes | i downloaded the eclipse tar.gz file from the site that is the new ver. and i was wondering if i could just install that |
| 16:12.54 | bytes | i currently have 3.8 i believe and i would like to remove that entire package |
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| 16:16.19 | jordemort | phoronix seems kind of broken today :( |
| 16:16.35 | mumpitze1 | bytes: you can. you just untar it somewhere and run it |
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| 16:18.33 | bytes | mumpitze1: will it replace the eclipse 3.8 package i already have? |
| 16:19.21 | mumpitze1 | not directly. e.g. it won't show up in the menu or such. and you need to uninstall eclipse 3.8 on your own |
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| 16:19.49 | bytes | how would i go about getting it to show up in my xfce menu? |
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| 16:20.09 | bytes | which command should i use to uninstall 3.8? |
| 16:20.17 | mumpitze1 | !tell bytes about menu |
| 16:20.25 | mumpitze1 | apt-get remove <package> like any other |
| 16:22.56 | bytes | well it seems that i have menu installed already |
| 16:23.05 | bytes | so i guess just compiling from source will be able to work |
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| 16:23.46 | bytes | how would i uninstall something i compiled from source whenever a newer version comes out? since this won't add any new sources to my sources.list |
| 16:24.07 | bytes | and it seems i have menu installed already |
| 16:24.17 | bytes | oops stated the samething twice |
| 16:25.14 | afernandez_ | !tell bytes about enter |
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| 16:26.44 | babilen | dpkg: tell bytes -about stow |
| 16:26.46 | babilen | dpkg: tell bytes -about stow usage |
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| 16:27.17 | babilen | bytes: Use stow to manage your local build-from-source "installations" |
| 16:27.53 | babilen | bytes: There is, naturally, no automatic way to update software installed in this way |
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| 16:35.34 | VsioZashibis | how can I check if debian installed all dependincies for wine |
| 16:35.41 | marius__ | is there an easy way to get either kde 4.11 or compiz 0.9 on debian stable? (both of them have a workaround/fix for a tearing bug with intel graphics afaik) |
| 16:35.41 | VsioZashibis | i installed it using aptitude install wine |
| 16:37.25 | Jonuz | How can I stop that debian mutes rhytmbox when I get privsg or someone talks in mumble, I guess there is option in somewhere that I can disable that..? |
| 16:37.28 | virusuy | VsioZashibis: if wine is installed, then debian installed all the dependencies |
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| 16:38.52 | VsioZashibis | when I installe wine in centos it installs more dependencies |
| 16:38.54 | VsioZashibis | such as xorg |
| 16:39.01 | VsioZashibis | in debian it doesn't do that |
| 16:39.38 | virusuy | probably because those dependencies are already installed |
| 16:39.45 | mumpitze1 | you don't need xorg to run wine: the x server can run somewhere else |
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| 16:48.53 | chrs_ | i have a tar file with lib/ debian/ and bin/ directories |
| 16:49.08 | chrs_ | how can i turn this into a .deb and install with dpkg? |
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| 16:50.39 | mumpitze1 | chrs_: unpack it and run "dpkg-buildpackage" in the directory where the /debian/ one is |
| 16:50.48 | chrs_ | hm, ok |
| 16:50.50 | mumpitze1 | the root directory of the archive most likely |
| 16:50.51 | chrs_ | i'll give it a shot |
| 16:51.11 | chrs_ | looks like this was a deb package at one point |
| 16:51.17 | chrs_ | or extracted from one |
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| 16:52.01 | val_erie | test |
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| 16:58.22 | VsioZashibis | for some reason ufw is not starting when debian 7.1 server boots. So i added the following line in crontab -e @reboot service ufw start |
| 16:58.29 | VsioZashibis | and it is still not starting at server boto |
| 16:58.32 | VsioZashibis | boot* |
| 16:58.33 | VsioZashibis | ideas ? |
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| 17:02.33 | f8l | VsioZashibis: Read the log, look for errors. Also, some services have to be configured to start somewhere in /etc. |
| 17:03.03 | bullgard4 | What is a "_stock_ kernel version"? Is this a kernel version provided by a Debian repository? Description of the DEB program package »tp-smapi-dkms«: "This package also brings the source for an improved version of HDAPS which should work on newer ThinkPads too (the stock kernel version does not)." |
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| 17:05.30 | f8l | bullgard4: It probably means that HDAPS included in Linux doesn't work on newer ThinkPads. |
| 17:05.37 | jordemort | bullgard4: yeah, they just mean the kernel you get by default doesn't support the HDAPS thing as well |
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| 17:23.11 | bullgard4 | jordanm: »HDAPS« stands for "HardDisk_Active_Protection_System". Are you telling me that installing the DEB program package »tp-smapi-dkms« will modify the Linux kernel so that it supports Lenovo's "HardDisk_Active_Protection_System"? |
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| 17:24.07 | bullgard4 | jordemort: »HDAPS« stands for "HardDisk_Active_Protection_System". Are you telling me that installing the DEB program package »tp-smapi-dkms« will modify the Linux kernel so that it supports Lenovo's "HardDisk_Active_Protection_System"? |
| 17:24.15 | jordemort | bullgard4: it won't modify your kernel but it will compile and install additional kernel modules (drivers) |
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| 17:24.57 | jordemort | bullgard4: so in a sense you're correct, yes, that will add the improved support to your kernel, just as an additional thing, not a modification of an existing thing |
| 17:26.08 | bullgard4 | jordemort: And the sole purpose of this endeavour would be to get the "HardDisk_Active_Protection_System" going? No further benefits? |
| 17:26.26 | jelly-home | bullgard4: that's what drivers for particular hardware do, yes |
| 17:26.39 | jordemort | bullgard4: correct |
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| 17:27.30 | jelly-home | bullgard4: documentation for that software may tell more about the features provided. |
| 17:27.46 | bullgard4 | f8l, jelly-home, jordanm Understood. - Thank you very much for your help. |
| 17:28.46 | Th0masR0ss | uh, how do I manually fix a package? (E: I wasn't able to locate a file for the libnepomuk4 package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. |
| 17:28.49 | Th0masR0ss | ) |
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| 17:29.42 | f8l | Th0masR0ss: Which program said that? |
| 17:29.49 | jelly-home | Th0masR0ss: can you pastebin the exact command line you ran and its _complete_ output? |
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| 17:30.02 | Th0masR0ss | jelly-home: sec |
| 17:30.14 | jelly-home | it's passed already |
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| 17:31.31 | Th0masR0ss | lol |
| 17:33.16 | Th0masR0ss | huh. no longer getting that error after downloading the deb and manually installing it |
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| 17:33.43 | jelly-home | it's magic! |
| 17:33.55 | jordemort | Th0masR0ss: your sources.list is probably borked |
| 17:34.19 | VsioZashibis | Guys. This might me not a related topic in this chan. But I am having such a hard time finding any support for what I am trying to do. Run srcds.exe using wine in Debian 7.1 server. |
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| 17:34.53 | VsioZashibis | I put up a forum post together, which summarizes an issue. Could someone please take a look? http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3172256 |
| 17:34.57 | Th0masR0ss | jordemort: no, I think an install was interupted |
| 17:35.04 | f8l | VsioZashibis: You're right. It's not on-topic here. #wine maybe? |
| 17:35.07 | jordemort | ah that'd make sense |
| 17:35.18 | rixius | f8l: #wine doesn't quite work. |
| 17:35.27 | jelly-home | #winehq |
| 17:35.32 | rixius | There we go. |
| 17:35.43 | rixius | VsioZashibis: Ask in #winehq |
| 17:35.44 | VsioZashibis | i have been asking there for the past 3 days and no one responded |
| 17:35.49 | VsioZashibis | in #winehq |
| 17:36.04 | f8l | rixius: OK. That was a shot in the dark. Thanks for correcting me. |
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| 17:36.31 | f8l | VsioZashibis: Have you tried the mailing list? |
| 17:36.36 | rixius | f8l: Yeah, the first thing I did was /join #wine, so I could see if it existed, then I woulda made the suggestion. |
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| 17:37.00 | VsioZashibis | f8l: nope, what mailing list |
| 17:37.01 | f8l | rixius: That „maybe” was there for a reason. ;-) |
| 17:37.20 | f8l | VsioZashibis: wine's mailing list. They have one, don't they? |
| 17:37.47 | jelly-home | rixius, f8l: /msg alis list *wine* |
| 17:37.51 | VsioZashibis | f8l: perhaps they do. Not sure how their mailing list will be specific enough to tell me exactly what is wrong |
| 17:38.17 | f8l | VsioZashibis: More than this channel, I guess. |
| 17:38.22 | rixius | jelly-home: Feels like cheating. :T |
| 17:39.01 | f8l | jelly-home: Woah. What happened to /list? |
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| 17:40.23 | jelly-home | rixius, f8l: we're not here to guess channel names, but get or provide support; /list works in a suboptimal way so most large networks limit its use |
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| 17:45.51 | Will_Tampa | comptia |
| 17:45.54 | Will_Tampa | Opps |
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| 17:47.18 | chrs_ | mumpitze1: i'm getting an unmet dependencies error when i run dpkg-buildpackage |
| 17:47.44 | chrs_ | mumpitze1: weird though. i'm not installing the package, i'm just trying to create a .deb |
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| 17:48.23 | jordemort | chrs_: build dependencies? |
| 17:48.39 | jordemort | apt-get build-dep [packagename] |
| 17:49.23 | chrs_ | what is [packagename]? the name of the package that i'm trying to create? |
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| 17:50.04 | chrs_ | jordemort: dpkg-buildpackage: warning: build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting |
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| 17:50.43 | jordemort | chrs_: yeah, replace [packagename] with the name of the package you're trying to build |
| 17:51.31 | jordemort | chrs_: assuming that the source package is in one of the apt repositories you have configured in /etc/apt/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list.d |
| 17:52.04 | chrs_ | jordemort: unable to find source |
| 17:52.13 | jelly-home | chrs_: where did you get the source and which debian release are you trying to build for? |
| 17:52.17 | chrs_ | the package is not known to apt |
| 17:52.22 | jordemort | chrs_: otherwise have a look at "debian/control" inside your package directory and look for a "Build-Depends" line, and install the packages that are listed in there |
| 17:52.22 | chrs_ | i'm running ubuntu 13.04 |
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| 17:52.33 | chrs_ | i found a tar file on the internet (lol) |
| 17:52.47 | chrs_ | in the tar file are 3 dirs: lib/ debian/ bin/ |
| 17:52.57 | chrs_ | i figured that was/is a dpkg file |
| 17:53.02 | chrs_ | so i'm trying to turn this tar into a deb |
| 17:53.05 | jelly-home | chrs_: you're probably in the wrong channel then, too many different assumptions for us to guide you in an optimal way |
| 17:53.07 | chrs_ | and install via dpkg |
| 17:53.12 | chrs_ | ok |
| 17:53.39 | chrs_ | the critical part is the pre/post install scripts |
| 17:53.52 | chrs_ | i need those to run so the files are installed into my system properly |
| 17:53.53 | jelly-home | lib/ and bin/ sounds like that thing is precompiled already |
| 17:54.03 | chrs_ | yes, they are precompiled |
| 17:54.06 | chrs_ | they are binary drivers |
| 17:54.22 | chrs_ | the apt-repo was deleted because of licensing issues |
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| 17:54.32 | chrs_ | but i found the same deb files somewhere else |
| 17:54.57 | chrs_ | as you can tell, i'm currently way outside the bounds of "normal usage" |
| 17:55.11 | jordemort | ooh, now i'm interested in what package this actually is |
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| 17:55.14 | jordemort | sounds illicit |
| 17:55.14 | jelly-home | chrs_: ask in ##linux or #ubuntu, please (I'm in ##linux if you wish to continue the conversation) |
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| 17:56.09 | aar_ | Hi, does anyone know of a Linux equivalent of GPGrelay (an encrypting-decrypting proxy that sits between my e-mail client and the POP3/SMS server)? |
| 17:56.16 | jelly-home | jordemort: it's not on topic in here, so the same goes for you |
| 17:56.33 | chrs_ | jelly-home: ##linux: cannot send to channel |
| 17:56.34 | jordemort | jelly-home: don't care that much |
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| 17:57.13 | bibi23 | I have a server containing some websites, over the time I installed packages as they were needing some, made configurations and so... now I'm wondering, if tomorrow I switch to a new server (eg. more powerful server) I'll have to try to remember everything and set it up again, is there a way to avoid this? how can I store and manage os settings needed by a website? |
| 17:57.58 | x-s4nd3r | is there a nullbyte alternative for *nix that works on latest php versions? please i need help |
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| 18:02.01 | marius__ | is there an easy way to get either kde 4.11 or compiz 0.9 on debian stable? (both of them have a workaround/fix for a tearing bug with intel graphics afaik) |
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| 18:08.50 | virusuy | bibi23: i guess you should backup your /etc folder and recovery on the new server |
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| 18:09.05 | virusuy | well, obviously you should keep the same version of apps on both servers |
| 18:09.26 | ws2k3 | hello i have a question what matter more my load or % cpu usage? |
| 18:10.01 | jhutchins | ws2k3: Define "load", and "matter" in terms of what? |
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| 18:10.27 | jhutchins | ,versions kde4-base |
| 18:10.28 | judd | No package named 'kde4-base' was found in i386. |
| 18:10.54 | bibi23 | virusuy: I don't think it is enough, it only contains configurations, what about installed package versions? Isn't there a tool for that? |
| 18:11.10 | ws2k3 | load of the machine |
| 18:11.13 | ws2k3 | you know in uptime and top |
| 18:11.18 | jhutchins | ,versions kdebase-data |
| 18:11.19 | judd | Package: kdebase-data on i386 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-2 |
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| 18:13.08 | zerick | Hi folks, by doing "modprobe loop"I got an error, do I have any missing package ? |
| 18:14.46 | C00re | what does the error say then? |
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| 18:16.14 | zerick | C00re, modprobe loop ERROR: could not insert 'loop': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 18:16.32 | zerick | C00re, I have another fresh installed Debian box where it is enabled |
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| 18:17.57 | mercutio22 | o |
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| 18:19.57 | virusuy | bibi23: yes |
| 18:20.02 | virusuy | well not tool, but a command |
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| 18:20.14 | virusuy | bibi23: dpkg --get-selections |
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| 18:23.59 | michaelis | Hi. My debian OS version 7 freezes from time to time. Nothing is responding except for the mouse. And the CPU is working hard. Is there any log I can look into after reboot? |
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| 18:25.21 | jelly-home | zerick: is this a physical machine or a virtual one? What does uname -a say? |
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| 18:26.19 | michaelis | Linux fuffe 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 18:26.39 | michaelis | jelly-home, Sorry. Thought you were addressing me. |
| 18:26.40 | f8l | michaelis: Look for logs in /var/log. dmesg, syslog, kern… |
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| 18:27.19 | michaelis | f8l, Ok. Is the information in these logs retained after reboot? |
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| 18:27.25 | f8l | michaelis: Make sure you're looking at a log from the right time. |
| 18:27.28 | f8l | michaelis: Yes. |
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| 18:28.06 | jelly-home | michaelis: if you have a second machine on the same network while that is happening, see if you can ping fuffe's ip or even ssh in |
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| 18:28.35 | michaelis | jelly-home, Ok. I will try that. |
| 18:28.41 | michaelis | Thanks for the help. |
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| 18:30.39 | bullgard4 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:30.43 | jelly-home | michaelis: going to need openssh-server installed first if it's not there already |
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| 18:30.57 | bullgard4 | +the |
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| 18:36.51 | michaelis | jelly-home, Tank you for the tip. I figured I had to install something to get it to work but not exactly what. No you spared me some time. |
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| 18:39.59 | aindilis | hi, I am curious, I have a device, a VGA to HDMI converter that supports 1080 resolution, however, in the gnome display settings it doesn't give the options. My xorg.conf doesn't have resolutions, just color depth's, specified. wondering what the correct way is to force 1080 as an option |
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| 18:43.33 | Tjalle | I have a small problem, i am using av-linux and it cant find my second hard drive. any suggestions how to fix this? google didnt help at all. |
| 18:44.44 | jhutchins | aindilis: You might experiment with xrandr/xrandrtray |
| 18:45.03 | jhutchins | !av-linux |
| 18:45.48 | jhutchins | Tjalle: What kind of hard drives are they? |
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| 18:46.48 | jhutchins | Tjalle: I don't think we have any knowledge of av-linux. |
| 18:46.52 | jhutchins | !based on debian |
| 18:46.53 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 18:47.17 | maxxe | a real operating system for real users |
| 18:47.17 | zerick | jelly-home, the one with no loop is a virtual one |
| 18:47.28 | jimcooncat | "AV Linux is a free custom shop modded and rodded 32bit computer Operating System" -- Tjalle, if jhutchins can't help then I'd suggest running Debian-live to see if you have the same problem. If so, come back here for support. |
| 18:48.27 | Tjalle | ok |
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| 19:01.09 | mo1991 | can anyone tell me where the compiz packages have gone? Seem to be missing from unstable and experimental where they resided previously ??? |
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| 19:10.42 | bullgard4 | '~$ modinfo tpm': "description: TPM Driver." What does »TPM« stand for? |
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| 19:15.04 | nkuttler | bullgard4: if in doubt check the kernel source |
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| 19:15.42 | C00re | what do you think of this partition scheme on my system disk (250GB): swap 4GB, /boot 512MB, / 20GB, /var 20GB, /tmp 10GB, /usr/local 25GB, /home 170GB |
| 19:15.48 | rudi_s | bullgard4: Maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trusted_Platform_Module |
| 19:15.52 | nkuttler | bullgard4: fwiw, tpm by an ibm employee.. |
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| 19:16.28 | C00re | was thinking maybe webroot in /var/www too |
| 19:16.31 | rudi_s | C00re: What's the intended usage of this system? |
| 19:16.42 | C00re | server |
| 19:16.57 | rudi_s | And for what? Webserver? |
| 19:17.04 | C00re | for example yes |
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| 19:18.12 | C00re | is 10GB excessive for /tmp for example :D |
| 19:18.37 | rudi_s | C00re: Depends what you want to do, but it's quite big. |
| 19:18.51 | rudi_s | / is also quite big, 2 GiB or so should be enough. |
| 19:19.08 | rudi_s | And if you want to use it mostly as a webserver, your /home might be too big (unless you symlink stuff there). |
| 19:19.09 | C00re | even if i dont have a partition for /usr ? |
| 19:19.27 | lleroy | What's a good channel for networking hardware questions? |
| 19:19.31 | rudi_s | C00re: Oh, overlooked that. In that case it's fine. |
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| 19:19.45 | rudi_s | lleroy: ##networking |
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| 19:19.58 | rudi_s | C00re: Why do you need /usr/local? |
| 19:20.17 | C00re | i read it could be useful |
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| 19:20.53 | rudi_s | C00re: On Debian all software gets installed into /usr, you only need /usr/local for "local" software which is not provided by a .deb file. |
| 19:21.13 | bullgard4 | nkuttler, rudi_s: I found it. " Device driver for TCG/TCPA TPM (trusted platform module). ( * Specifications at www.trustedcomputinggroup.or)" |
| 19:21.42 | jelly-home | zerick: openvz and some other container-based virtualization systems might not allow you to use a loop device at all, and they definitely don't allow you to load modules |
| 19:21.46 | C00re | hmmh.. so its maybe better to partion one single /usr instead then |
| 19:22.32 | rudi_s | C00re: Yes. |
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| 19:22.53 | rudi_s | If you install a few programs in /usr/local it's not an issue, but /usr is the default. |
| 19:23.01 | rudi_s | And then you can shrink / |
| 19:23.09 | C00re | mkay |
| 19:23.26 | rudi_s | C00re: But if you're not sure how big the partitions are going to get, you can just use /boot, / and /tmp and see how it goes. |
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| 19:24.07 | Worf | well, what and why do you want things in seperate partitions? i usually just try to keep the "core" system seperate from places that users or bad circuumstances can fill up, but other than that i don't partition that much anymore ... |
| 19:24.19 | Kobaz | is it possible to mount a partition and tell the kernel to not read certain blocks |
| 19:25.18 | C00re | lvm on a systemdisk, would that work too? |
| 19:25.34 | nkuttler | Kobaz: badblocks |
| 19:25.36 | C00re | then i maybe could shrink or enlarge and such right |
| 19:25.38 | rudi_s | Kobaz: You can tell the filesystem that some blocks are bad (man badblocks, man e2fsck, man mke2fs) |
| 19:25.50 | nkuttler | Kobaz: but really, throw the disk away asap |
| 19:25.53 | rudi_s | But if a disk has bad blocks, better change it before you your data gets destroyed. |
| 19:26.03 | Kobaz | and what if i want to get datars from it |
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| 19:26.15 | Kobaz | yeah, i coppied everything from the easy partitions |
| 19:26.25 | nkuttler | just mount it and cp? |
| 19:26.32 | rudi_s | Kobaz: dd? |
| 19:26.43 | Worf | C00re: know where things can fill up. parts of /var can become big, etc ... |
| 19:26.45 | Kobaz | mm yeah i should dd it with ignore read errors |
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| 19:27.10 | Kobaz | it's not mounting so far, i'm gonan try and use alternatte superblocks but it's really slow since it keeps hitting bad blocks |
| 19:27.17 | rudi_s | Kobaz: Or maybe tools like gddrescue (Disclaimer: haven't used it). |
| 19:27.25 | nkuttler | Kobaz: what's the mount error? |
| 19:27.44 | rudi_s | Kobaz: Copy the disk ASAP, before it gets anything worse and you overwrite good data. If you mount it, mount it ro only. |
| 19:27.57 | nkuttler | Kobaz: or are you talking about your root disk? |
| 19:28.07 | rudi_s | C00re: LVM works fine, but it's not really necessary. |
| 19:28.15 | lleroy | thanks |
| 19:28.16 | Kobaz | rudi_s: oh i know all that, i've faught with dieing disks before |
| 19:28.23 | Kobaz | fought.. blarg |
| 19:28.32 | rudi_s | Kobaz: Good. Just wanted to mention it. |
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| 19:28.53 | Kobaz | looks like dumpe2fs can read a few backup superblocks |
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| 19:36.32 | Kobaz | do de do |
| 19:36.33 | Kobaz | fun fun |
| 19:36.43 | Kobaz | drivereadyseekcomplete errors |
| 19:36.48 | Kobaz | the joy of dieing disks |
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| 19:38.41 | nkuttler | the joy of backups |
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| 19:42.49 | SmashingX | somebody please can help me to figure out what this means? find . -regex '.*[^-_./0-9a-zA-Z$\ ].*' |
| 19:43.38 | rudi_s | SmashingX: man 7 regex? |
| 19:43.52 | Kobaz | nkuttler: i have some of those too, just not latest-latest |
| 19:43.55 | SmashingX | first of all I thought find . would srearch in the current directory |
| 19:43.59 | rudi_s | SmashingX: It does. |
| 19:44.09 | SmashingX | ? |
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| 19:44.16 | SmashingX | but I get so many results |
| 19:44.19 | nkuttler | SmashingX: the pattern looks a little odd, with $ in the middle of it |
| 19:44.22 | rudi_s | SmashingX: find . searches the current directory and recursively down. |
| 19:44.25 | SmashingX | I don't have that many files in this directory |
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| 19:44.29 | nkuttler | oh wait, ^$... |
| 19:44.34 | rudi_s | nkuttler: []? |
| 19:44.35 | zmode | nkuttler: isn't that literal? |
| 19:44.39 | SmashingX | nkuttler: you are right man |
| 19:44.50 | zmode | SmashingX: yes you do |
| 19:44.58 | rudi_s | SmashingX: find is recursive. It starts from the current directory and goes down. |
| 19:44.59 | SmashingX | find . -regex '.*[^-_./0-9a-zA-Z].*' |
| 19:45.05 | nkuttler | i'd have to man find.. |
| 19:45.05 | SmashingX | I don't know where that came from |
| 19:45.08 | rudi_s | SmashingX: The $ was fine there ... |
| 19:45.13 | nkuttler | ah |
| 19:45.16 | jelly-home | SmashingX: -regex pattern -- File name matches regular expression pattern. This is a match on the whole path, not a search. |
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| 19:45.23 | rudi_s | -regex matches all files which _path_ match the regex. |
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| 19:45.50 | rudi_s | And the regex, well. it matches all files which contain one character which is not in the list provided in the brackets. |
| 19:45.50 | jelly-home | SmashingX: that's from the fine manual |
| 19:45.59 | nkuttler | SmashingX: your pattern excludes the chars in [] |
| 19:46.00 | SmashingX | oh now I remember why I had this at the end of the regex \ |
| 19:46.09 | nkuttler | SmashingX: there's also #regex fwiw |
| 19:46.09 | sharky | regex is always greedy, remember that :D |
| 19:46.17 | SmashingX | I thought that would search for files that have spaces |
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| 19:46.29 | rudi_s | SmashingX: Btw. I have no idea what you expect to match with those regex. What are you trying to do? |
| 19:46.38 | SmashingX | err... sorry would skip files that have spaces in their filenames, since the regex is negated |
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| 19:46.50 | jelly-home | SmashingX: not really |
| 19:46.55 | rudi_s | SmashingX: No. That doesn't work. |
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| 19:47.10 | SmashingX | rudi_s: I'm running an experiment in where I can find files with odd characters |
| 19:47.35 | rudi_s | SmashingX: To exclude files with spaces use something like -not -name '* *' |
| 19:47.45 | SmashingX | but what I don't understand first of all is why I get results from other directories if Im doing find . |
| 19:47.47 | nkuttler | SmashingX: fwiw, .* at the start will match everthing i think |
| 19:47.56 | nkuttler | SmashingX: links? |
| 19:48.03 | rudi_s | SmashingX: find is _recursive_! |
| 19:48.03 | SmashingX | nkuttler: what about at the end? |
| 19:48.13 | jelly-home | SmashingX: [...] matches exactly one character. Thus, -regex '.*[...].*' will match any path with at least one character matching the [...] |
| 19:48.14 | nkuttler | oh right, it's recursive |
| 19:48.26 | rudi_s | nkuttler: find doesn't links by default. |
| 19:48.29 | nkuttler | yeah, but it's negated |
| 19:48.32 | SmashingX | rudi_s: tight, but it would be recursive starting at the current directory right? |
| 19:48.44 | rudi_s | SmashingX: Yes. |
| 19:48.51 | SmashingX | ok got ya |
| 19:49.03 | jelly-home | !using find |
| 19:49.04 | dpkg | i guess using find is http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind or "man find" |
| 19:49.13 | SmashingX | jelly-home: but the [....] is negated |
| 19:49.17 | rudi_s | nkuttler: But only the character set. |
| 19:49.19 | SmashingX | because of the ^ |
| 19:49.34 | rudi_s | So it matches every file which contains a single character from the (negated) set. |
| 19:49.44 | SmashingX | ok got ya |
| 19:49.47 | jelly-home | SmashingX: [^...] is still exactly one character |
| 19:49.49 | rudi_s | E.g. a ? or , or ... |
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| 19:49.59 | SmashingX | what about that I want to skip files that conain spaces? |
| 19:50.00 | rudi_s | *contains at least |
| 19:50.10 | rudi_s | SmashingX: Read the answers others give you ;-) |
| 19:50.13 | jelly-home | SmashingX: find . \! -name '* *' |
| 19:50.15 | SmashingX | I thought \ |
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| 19:50.23 | jelly-home | and read the fine wiki page. |
| 19:50.26 | rudi_s | "SmashingX: To exclude files with spaces use something like -not -name '* *'" |
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| 19:50.53 | rudi_s | SmashingX: And always use -print0 or -exec if you want to create reliable find scripts. |
| 19:50.56 | SmashingX | rudi_s: I meant include that in my already built command |
| 19:51.06 | rudi_s | Everything else breaks as soon as newlines come into play. |
| 19:51.20 | rudi_s | SmashingX: Your regex doesn't make much sense. |
| 19:51.26 | xingu | rudi_s: for various values of IFS :) |
| 19:51.28 | jelly-home | SmashingX: you really, really want to read the wiki page linked |
| 19:51.29 | rudi_s | But you can just append the condition. |
| 19:51.37 | rudi_s | xingu: True ;-) |
| 19:51.43 | SmashingX | jelly-home: people are talking to me here!! hold on I will!! |
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| 19:51.56 | jelly-home | ignore the people! |
| 19:52.03 | SmashingX | what?!!! |
| 19:52.08 | rudi_s | :D |
| 19:52.12 | jelly-home | they can't remember all the nice stuff that's already written there |
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| 19:52.34 | SmashingX | wooow |
| 19:52.45 | zerick | jelly-home, I guess (70% sure) this is hosted under KVM, is it the same ? :( under Virtualbox is working pretty well. |
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| 19:53.38 | jelly-home | zerick: kvm would, in general, let you use the distro kernel so loop module ought to be available. Install "imvirt" and run it as root |
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| 19:54.13 | DelphiWorld | Hi People, |
| 19:54.18 | DelphiWorld | i need help with hostapd |
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| 19:54.25 | DelphiWorld | is unable to start, using a RT2800 for ap |
| 19:54.29 | DelphiWorld | Config: http://dpaste.com/1349353/ |
| 19:54.39 | SmashingX | jelly-home: where is the regular expressions topic in that wiki? |
| 19:54.41 | DelphiWorld | dpkg: hostapd |
| 19:54.41 | dpkg | hostapd is a user-space IEEE 802.11 access point (AP) and IEEE 802.11X/WPA/WPA2/EAP authenticator. Any mac80211 driver providing AP functionality is supported by hostapd's nl80211 (netlink) driver. See /usr/share/doc/hostapd/README.Debian for program invocation and driver version/firmware notes. See also http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd . http://w1.fi/hostapd/ |
| 19:55.11 | jelly-home | SmashingX: you don't need regexpes for what you're trying to do so far |
| 19:55.40 | ezra-s | runs |
| 19:55.42 | SmashingX | jelly-home: what?!!! I'm learning regex!!! how do I suppose to learn regex then? |
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| 19:56.39 | jelly-home | SmashingX: echo stuff | grep 'regex to test' |
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| 19:57.00 | jelly-home | add --color to grep if you want to |
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| 19:57.15 | C00re | 'sed' is a nice tool too |
| 19:57.56 | jelly-home | grep -E (egrep is the same thing) for ERE syntax |
| 19:58.18 | DelphiWorld | anyone for hostapd? |
| 19:59.13 | jelly-home | nope, sorry, my router runs OpenWRT not Debian :-| |
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| 20:00.17 | nkuttler | SmashingX: if you want to learn ask in #regex for pointers |
| 20:00.48 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: you could try the #wireless or #linux-wireless channel perhaps |
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| 20:01.10 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: good suggestion |
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| 20:02.33 | Kobaz | i have a feeling this dd is going to produce a completely foobar'd filesystem |
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| 20:02.52 | Kobaz | every other block from half way on is unreadable |
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| 20:05.05 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: issue solved |
| 20:05.32 | jelly-home | \o/ |
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| 20:06.00 | jelly-home | wonders how DelphiWorld's input devices deal with that emoticon |
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| 20:06.09 | jelly-home | er, output devices |
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| 20:07.19 | dagerik | i need a live cd to put on usb. which torrent file here is good? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/i386/bt-cd/ |
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| 20:07.26 | dagerik | why is there 8 CDs |
| 20:07.41 | zerick | jelly-home, ok, it says its KVM |
| 20:08.21 | jelly-home | zerick: alright, so... back to "what does uname -s say" |
| 20:08.31 | jelly-home | uname -a, sorry |
| 20:08.42 | bucketm0use | I'm looking to build a personal secure email server. Does anyone have a recommendation? That, or a guide would be great! |
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| 20:11.19 | musca | dagerik: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/bt-hybrid/ |
| 20:11.36 | musca | these are the live-cds |
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| 20:12.29 | jhutchins | bucketm0use: Debian, choose the "mail server" role. Lots of guidance at debian.org and tldp.org |
| 20:12.29 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: it's pocible to configure a bridge as a vlan ttrunk? |
| 20:12.42 | bucketm0use | jhutchins, thank you! |
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| 20:13.37 | musca | bucketm0use: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 20:13.57 | bucketm0use | musca, thank you as well :) |
| 20:14.15 | zerick | jelly-home, Linux macrolba 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.41-2+deb7u2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 20:14.22 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: in general, yes |
| 20:14.44 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: no, i canceled, i'lle configure a vlan and bride it |
| 20:14.55 | jelly-home | zerick: and yet modprobe loop fails? |
| 20:15.02 | zerick | yep |
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| 20:15.10 | jelly-home | zerick: perhaps it's loaded already? |
| 20:15.26 | zerick | jelly, modprobe loop |
| 20:15.27 | zerick | ERROR: could not insert 'loop': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) |
| 20:15.44 | zerick | jelly-home, No, it is not present when I do lsmod |
| 20:16.00 | jelly-home | zerick: weird. does "debsums linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64" report any errors? |
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| 20:16.37 | Noskcaj | Is there any benifit to setting up my own buildd node? it would be on AMD64 or PPC |
| 20:16.44 | jelly-home | zerick: make that debsums -s linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 20:17.24 | jelly-home | zerick: in any case, you need to upgrade the kernel anyway, perhaps it's going to work on the current 3.2.46 ;-) |
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| 20:17.35 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: ifup eth0.100: eth0.100: error fetching interface information: Device not found |
| 20:17.57 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:18.19 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: I presume this is vlan config without a bridge, for testing? |
| 20:18.35 | f-a | hello people from Debian: I have a *very* loud ogg file. I would like to halve its volume. I read the manual of avconv but no dice. Do you know of any suitable program? (I am using the command line, but anything would do, really) |
| 20:18.35 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: yeah |
| 20:18.46 | zerick | jelly-home, it could be that it's a custom kernel ? I mean, the image is offered by the VPS provider |
| 20:19.24 | jelly-home | zerick: it does not look custom... |
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| 20:20.07 | jelly-home | ,kernels |
| 20:20.08 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.11-rc4-686-pae (3.11~rc4-1~exp1); sid: 3.10-2-686-pae (3.10.7-1); jessie: 3.10-2-686-pae (3.10.5-1); wheezy-backports: 3.10-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.10.5-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.46-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze3) |
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| 20:27.36 | SmashingX | Can somebody explain me why the output of this command? locate --regex 'bin/(bz|gz|zip)' |
| 20:27.46 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home, http://paste.debian.net/27186/ |
| 20:28.02 | SmashingX | first of all why do I have to include a --regex |
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| 20:28.18 | SmashingX | and I don't understand why I got /usr/bin/zip for xample |
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| 20:29.08 | dagerik | after installing the live-cds like this: dd if=debian-live-7.0.0-i386-lxde-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=16M -- im unable to boot from it on this other laptop. other usb bootables work fine. |
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| 20:30.46 | jelly-home | SmashingX: "/usr/bin/zip" matches the "bin/zip" option of "bin/(bz|gz|zip)" regex |
| 20:31.15 | SmashingX | but If I'm in my home folder why it searched out of it? |
| 20:31.29 | SmashingX | I thought it was going to search only on the current directory |
| 20:31.52 | SmashingX | I was in /home/user/Downloads |
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| 20:33.27 | jelly-home | SmashingX: locate always looks thru its whole database |
| 20:33.43 | SmashingX | interesting.. |
| 20:34.02 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: putting a vlan iface into a bridge won't work but that's besides the point when bringing eth0.100 itself up. does eth0 physical device support vlans at all? |
| 20:34.05 | SmashingX | jelly-home: is locate's database update every time I create a new file/directory? |
| 20:34.19 | jelly-home | SmashingX: by default, it's updated once a day |
| 20:34.21 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: yeah is supported |
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| 20:34.48 | SmashingX | jelly-home: that would be impossible if I turn on this computer every once a week |
| 20:35.02 | SmashingX | but I guess I understand your point |
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| 20:35.48 | jelly-home | SmashingX: that's why debian uses "anacron" so daily jobs get run after boot if they missed their usual time |
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| 20:36.33 | SmashingX | and debian has cron as well? |
| 20:36.35 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: unsure, what's the current state of interfaces? pastebin the output of "ip a" or "ifconfig -a" |
| 20:37.00 | jelly-home | SmashingX: yes. anacron is just an addition to cron |
| 20:37.04 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: lol, i lost access to it... need a sighted person to use the screen:-P |
| 20:37.07 | SmashingX | jelly-home: nice |
| 20:37.21 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: serial consoles ftw :-| |
| 20:37.40 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: i wish... this dumb pc dont have a rs232 hahaha |
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| 20:38.36 | jelly-home | yeah, I had to get a usb-serial thing to talk to my arm board |
| 20:39.51 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: :) |
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| 20:41.56 | zerick | jelly-home, I upgraded it, now loop mod is loaded |
| 20:41.59 | zerick | very curious case |
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| 20:43.05 | jelly-home | who knows, either that package might have really been bugged, or your provider had a bad image |
| 20:43.20 | DelphiWorld | shit what to do... |
| 20:43.54 | zerick | jelly-home, it should load by default right? If I do a fresh install.. it should |
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| 20:45.36 | jelly-home | zerick: why would it? |
| 20:45.55 | zerick | jelly-home, is it not how it works? xD |
| 20:46.25 | jelly-home | zerick: it will load automatically if you use the loop option in mount or fstab; otherwise, you might have to load it explicitely |
| 20:47.11 | jelly-home | or put it in /etc/modules if you need it |
| 20:47.42 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: bridging wifi and wired also has other issues |
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| 20:52.59 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: there was something about "4addr" mode needed if bridging was done with a wifi card in managed mode |
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| 20:53.30 | jelly-home | would get an atheros card that worked well as an AP instead |
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| 20:54.45 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: hmmm |
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| 21:04.55 | timholum | Hello, I am trying to get mount the initrd.gz from http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-armel/current/images/iop32x/netboot/ss4000e/ as a loopback device, I extracted it, but it is telling me it does not know the filesystem format. How can i find out what filesystem format the initrd is? |
| 21:05.37 | Rackmount | timholum: I think you need to use squashfs IIRC. |
| 21:06.18 | timholum | does debian use squashfs for the initrd? |
| 21:08.10 | timholum | Rackmount: the initrd is not a squashfs ( or at least unsquashfs initrd tells me it is not a valid squashfs ) |
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| 21:08.51 | Rackmount | Many distributions originally used compressed ext2 file system images. Others (including Debian 3.1) used cramfs in order to boot on memory-limited systems, since the cramfs image can be mounted in-place without requiring extra space for decompression. |
| 21:09.00 | Rackmount | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initrd |
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| 21:09.39 | jelly-home | timholum: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-686-pae: ASCII cpio archive (SVR4 with no CRC) (gzip compressed data, from Unix, last modified: Thu Jul 11 22:44:58 2013) |
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| 21:10.01 | jelly-home | timholum: file -z |
| 21:10.20 | timholum | initrd: ASCII cpio archive (SVR4 with no CRC) |
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| 21:13.37 | timholum | Jelly-home: Thanks I think I found what I needed |
| 21:14.18 | timholum | And Rackmount thanks for your help as well |
| 21:14.47 | Rackmount | timholum: not that I helped much, but no worries. :) |
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| 21:26.35 | eskatrem | hey, I realize it's a dumb question, but I can't export stuff to the PATH |
| 21:26.55 | cafuego | It's not a question, it's a statement. |
| 21:27.07 | eskatrem | I do PATH=$PATH:/my/new/path |
| 21:27.18 | eskatrem | and export PATH |
| 21:27.18 | cafuego | yeah that's valid for that command |
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| 21:27.32 | cafuego | and that made it valid for that shell |
| 21:27.37 | eskatrem | so it's fine, but when I go to another terminal it's not exported |
| 21:27.40 | cafuego | until the shell exited |
| 21:27.53 | cafuego | You'll want to add them to your .$SHELLrc file |
| 21:27.57 | eskatrem | cafuego: yep, I don't know how to make it permanent |
| 21:28.06 | eskatrem | ok, let me try that |
| 21:28.10 | cafuego | either .profile or .bashrc |
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| 21:29.11 | eskatrem | ok, so I do echo $SHELL, it returns /bin/bash, so I should change .bashrc, right? |
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| 21:29.25 | cafuego | Yeah, .bashrc is fine |
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| 21:31.18 | freeroute | hi, so I'm thinking of running weezy from a USB stick as a desktop to browse the web and watch videos / listen to music. Does anyone know if it can handle pretty much 24/7 uptime without any issues with that kind of usage? |
| 21:31.46 | freeroute | I have Thinkpad x230, so I assume video issues will not be present |
| 21:31.47 | eskatrem | cafuego: awesome! It's kind of strange that I couldnt find on google the thing about changing the file .bashrc |
| 21:32.42 | cafuego | Yeah ... I've said it once and I'll say it again. "You know nothing, Google Snow." |
| 21:33.07 | eskatrem | Google Snow?? |
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| 21:36.38 | freeroute | eskatrem: Game of Thrones reference ;p |
| 21:37.14 | eskatrem | freeroute: I don't watch that, but I will probably start soon because everybody says it's awesome |
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| 21:37.45 | freeroute | It is. Definitely one of the best shows I've watched. |
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| 21:38.16 | jhutchins | freeroute: Most of the internet runs on Linux servers running 24/7/years-at-a-time - or were you asking about the thinkpad? |
| 21:39.05 | jhutchins | freeroute: Or wait, I cross-read your post. What element are you asking about being capable? |
| 21:39.54 | freeroute | jhutchins: well, for instance, I'm running elementary OS right now and the thing seems to be freezing at least once every 2 days of constant usage |
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| 21:41.05 | freeroute | but the only thing I do is what I just described. People on eOS told me it was more of a USB stick issue |
| 21:41.27 | jhutchins | freeroute: If it has hardware issues, Debian won't fix them. Best to check the board for connections (reseat everything), run memcheck, and keep an eye on it. |
| 21:41.43 | jhutchins | freeroute: When we started running Linux on hardwaare that Windows always crashed on, we found out that it wasn't actually Windows' fault a lot of the time. |
| 21:42.47 | freeroute | interesting. You'd think that Thinkpad hardware would be well built. On the other hand, eOS is based on Ubuntu. Not sure what that means in terms of hardware support |
| 21:43.45 | jhutchins | freeroute: eOS is probably not as broadly tested as Debian Stable, but you should not expect us to know anything about it. All we can tell you is "try it and see". |
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| 21:44.55 | Vasistha | I have encountered a reproducible kernel panic doing ext4 access on a loop device (filesystem-in-a-file), am wondering if there is somewhere I should report it? |
| 21:45.00 | jhutchins | freeroute: Generally given Debian Stable and a Debian Derivative, Debian is going to be more stable and reliable. |
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| 21:46.38 | freeroute | jhutchins: That definitely makes sense. One question though, say I want to install the minimal version of Weezy onto my USB stick, but I can only connect to Internet with my wifi interface... how would I know whether it's supported by the minimal iso and if not, how could I load those drivers on it? |
| 21:46.58 | shazbotmcnastie | Heya, I think a friend completely destroyed his GTK. What would be the package name to install GTK all over again? |
| 21:47.04 | shazbotmcnastie | or the newest version, he's using jessie. |
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| 21:48.03 | Vasistha | here's the trace... http://paste.debian.net/27213/ |
| 21:48.19 | jhutchins | freeroute: I don't have personal experience with minimal, but I would expect that it would have all the standard drivers, but not firmware. |
| 21:49.31 | shazbotmcnastie | here is a pastie of one of his issues: http://pastie.org/8251326 |
| 21:49.39 | shazbotmcnastie | he cannot gksudo, open pavucontrol, synaptic |
| 21:49.40 | jhutchins | freeroute: So, valid #debian question: is chipset aaa:bbbb (from lspci -nn) supported in Wheezy? |
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| 21:49.46 | shazbotmcnastie | he apparently can't really do much |
| 21:50.07 | shazbotmcnastie | I thought maybe replace gtk, which is probably a dumb idea. If anyone else has any suggestions I'm open to them. |
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| 21:51.03 | jhutchins | Tell him to man up and use the CLI? |
| 21:51.19 | Vasistha | shazbotmcnastie: well this is probably not helpful right now, but if he has "destroyed his gtk" then he probably shouldn't be using jessie ... but anyway ... 'aptitude reinstall' may be helpful |
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| 21:52.03 | jhutchins | shazbotmcnastie: Depends a bit on what he did to cause the problem. If it was package updates, aptitude -f install might fix it. |
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| 21:52.17 | jhutchins | shazbotmcnastie: If it was configuration, reinstall probably won't fix it. |
| 21:52.41 | jhutchins | shazbotmcnastie: I second Vasistha - it he doesn't know how to fix it, he should be running stable, not testing. |
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| 21:54.19 | Vasistha | especially this early, wheezy was just released a couple months ago, so testing is gonna be rocky for a little while as it is very close to sid. It's one thing to run testing in the months before a release, but in the months after a release it's much more volatile |
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| 21:56.01 | freeroute | jhutchins: according to https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi it was supported in 6, so I assume that it would be supported in 7 |
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| 21:56.36 | cafuego | Oh yes, the intel wifi usually works just fine, because half the kernel hackers have that in their laptop. |
| 21:57.24 | cafuego | freeroute: Just check whether it needs firmware that may be included in a separate package. It shouldn't, but check anyway. |
| 21:57.26 | freeroute | hah, awesome |
| 21:58.15 | cafuego | AH yes, http://packages.debian.org/firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 21:59.21 | Pudge | anyone play dota2 on debian? I'm trying it buy dota2 takes 4G+ of RAM |
| 21:59.25 | cafuego | So yes, you'll want to grab the package with the firmware and just install that after you first boot the usb stick. So save it onto the same stick, so you can get at it. |
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| 21:59.34 | Pudge | but in windows XP it needs just 1G ram |
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| 22:00.39 | ksk | Pudge: go ask valve about that? dota2 is not supported by debian (as a regular package or sth) |
| 22:01.00 | ksk | and i dont think that a) you should use xp b) it runs there smoothly with 1G ram |
| 22:01.16 | freeroute | cafuego: ah of course, it contains non free software, so by default it wouldn't be included even on the full debian install |
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| 22:02.04 | atannus | I have found a lot of discouragement towards trying to get latest (or even later than 3.4) Gnome to run on Wheezy. Has anyone tried it? Care to share thoughts? |
| 22:02.26 | cafuego | Wheezy is stable. |
| 22:02.35 | cafuego | "latest" is not stable. Ever. |
| 22:02.43 | cafuego | See where I'm going with that? |
| 22:02.52 | atannus | Yes... :) |
| 22:02.55 | atannus | But I still wanna. |
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| 22:03.54 | atannus | It's ok if you're afraid, cafuego, I'm fearless. |
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| 22:06.45 | Pudge | cafuego: Debian is always the most stable distribution |
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| 22:07.10 | Pudge | cafuego: even debian sid is more stable then any version of ubuntu/fedora/suse/arch |
| 22:07.17 | freeroute | Pudge: I think so, just download Steam, it should be available on it for Linux |
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| 22:08.26 | mtn | Pudge: snort |
| 22:08.49 | Pudge | mtn: lol |
| 22:08.54 | freeroute | I'll just choose stable first, but I want to stay flexible, I've heard I could upgrade to unstable and testing all during runtime so I'll be doing just that if I want something more edgy. |
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| 22:09.11 | Pudge | freeroute: download steam? how? I just installed it from the repo |
| 22:09.41 | freeroute | yeah that's what I meant |
| 22:09.48 | Pudge | no problem that i can run dota2, it just takes too much ram |
| 22:10.05 | Pudge | freeroute: its a bug? |
| 22:10.16 | freeroute | ooh in that case no I have no idea |
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| 22:18.24 | freeroute | probably a dumb question, but say I have the stable and I decide to upgrade to unstable, would that also upgrade the kernel? |
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| 22:18.47 | freeroute | is that a necessity? |
| 22:18.51 | nkuttler | freeroute: who knows.. if the upgrade works.. it might |
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| 22:19.00 | lumiukko | is it a problem? |
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| 22:19.17 | nkuttler | freeroute: if you want an older kernel install the image directly, those kernels should stay around |
| 22:19.39 | freeroute | lumiukko: no not at all, just wondering |
| 22:19.41 | nkuttler | but then, you probably shouldn't run sid anyway |
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| 22:20.10 | freeroute | ah of course, you can choose different kernels at grub |
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| 22:33.54 | Pudge | freeroute: surely ur kernel will be upgraded if u do dist-upgrade |
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| 22:54.51 | james41382 | I am trying to install grub2 to the partition of a usb drive that gets mounted as /boot so that I can chainload it from truecrypt with this dual boot win8pro wheezy system. |
| 22:56.09 | james41382 | I rebooted and selected usb storage from the bios menu, but it just hangs. I tried again and choose removable devices and it booted, but i'm not sure if it was off the partition of the usb drive or if it somehow defaulted back to the mbr. |
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| 23:07.08 | Twinkletoes | I didn't install the rtl_nic firmware during installation as I couldn't get it to read my usb stick. how do you install the drivers post-installation? |
| 23:07.31 | dondelelcaro | Twinkletoes: you can just stick the firmware .deb on something, and dpkg -i it or similar. |
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| 23:07.52 | tgs3 | Twinkletoes: maybe it was in package called like firmware or linux-firmare or something |
| 23:08.20 | Twinkletoes | dondelelcaro: I have the page up on packages.debian.org but I can't see anywhere it has a .deb file... just a tar of the relevant files |
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| 23:08.51 | Twinkletoes | dondelelcaro: this is the page: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/firmware-realtek/filelist and the file it said I neede was rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw |
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| 23:09.25 | dondelelcaro | Twinkletoes: http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/all/firmware-realtek/download is what you want to download |
| 23:09.36 | dondelelcaro | Twinkletoes: or if you've got network working, just apt-get install firmware-realtek; |
| 23:09.49 | Twinkletoes | dondelelcaro: Thanks for the link - no network yet! |
| 23:10.21 | Twinkletoes | Or, alternatively, I could install and configure the wifi setup, but I can never remember the name of the correct package |
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| 23:11.08 | dondelelcaro | Twinkletoes: btw, is this for squeeze? Or wheezy? |
| 23:11.13 | Twinkletoes | Wheezy |
| 23:11.26 | dondelelcaro | Twinkletoes: oh. You want http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/firmware-realtek/download then |
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| 23:18.53 | Vasistha | I have encountered a reproducible kernel panic, is this something I should report? |
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| 23:21.34 | lulzfish4 | I'm having trouble with cryptsetup. I want to run luksFormat on a file I filled with random data, but it's saying "Device <file> doesn't exist or access denied" |
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| 23:21.37 | nkuttler | Vasistha: sure |
| 23:21.57 | Vasistha | lulzfish4: that is really more a question for your distro's channel than for bash |
| 23:22.21 | Vasistha | lulzfish4: oops sorry, I forgot I am not in #bash :P |
| 23:22.29 | lulzfish4 | Vasistha: I'm in the right place then :) |
| 23:22.48 | Vasistha | nkuttler: here is a call trace, what shall I do with this? http://paste.debian.net/27213/ |
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| 23:24.53 | Vasistha | lulzfish4: well, given the nature of that error message, have you checked the file permissions carefully? maybe it would be wise to pastebin an ls -l? For a single file/line it's probably okay in-chan |
| 23:25.48 | lulzfish4 | Vasistha: The file is rw-r-r and I own it, but afaik cryptsetup has to run as root so I didn't think there would be permissions problems |
| 23:26.41 | Vasistha | lulzfish4: just to be sure, root user can e.g. "touch" the file? |
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| 23:27.36 | Vasistha | there are occasional situations, e.g. when using fuse mount, when root cannot access files that regular user can |
| 23:27.38 | lulzfish4 | Vasistha: I'm using sudo but yes |
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| 23:28.21 | Twinkletoes | dondelelcaro: Thank you for the links - I'm not running yet, but the packages are installed |
| 23:28.22 | lulzfish4 | Vasistha: Yeah I thought I was having trouble because my older encrypted volume was on NTFS, but this new one is directly on my ext3 on /home. |
| 23:28.34 | Vasistha | lulzfish4: I often find 'sudo bash' to be handy for running commands in such a circumstance ;) |
| 23:28.47 | Twinkletoes | I'm trying to configure wireless using the command line, and so far have installed the wireless tools. Is it the supplicant package I need instead? |
| 23:28.59 | Vasistha | Twinkletoes: you need both |
| 23:29.08 | Twinkletoes | Vasistha: Ah, it's never easy! |
| 23:29.09 | lulzfish4 | My file is named by yesterday's date: 2013-08-18 |
| 23:29.18 | lulzfish4 | I did "cryptsetup luksFormat 2013-08-18" |
| 23:29.26 | Vasistha | Twinkletoes: I recommend wicd, it has a great curses-based client |
| 23:29.35 | lulzfish4 | I confirmed the warning about overwriting data and it gave me "Cannot read device 2013-08-18." |
| 23:29.39 | aypea[1] | Vasistha: is that back in development? |
| 23:29.54 | Vasistha | aypea[1]: ah .. I .. is it not in wheezy? |
| 23:30.04 | lulzfish4 | I feel like I'm missing a step in the device mapper / loopback stage but everything I recall reading says I just call luksFormat with the file itself |
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| 23:30.17 | zerick | Has anybody here uses or knows about OCFS2 ? |
| 23:30.22 | aypea[1] | Vasistha: no idea. I dropped it when it stopped being developed and I needed to manage more than one interface. |
| 23:30.26 | Twinkletoes | Vasistha: I haev no desktop installed, it's just a veyr lightweight server |
| 23:30.26 | Twinkletoes | Vasistha: wicd still teh right choice? |
| 23:30.27 | Vasistha | aypea[1]: wicd is available for oldstable, stable, testing, and unstable |
| 23:30.52 | aypea[1] | Vasistha: upstream's dead, though afaik. |
| 23:31.20 | Vasistha | Twinkletoes: for me it's much much easier than trying to type a whole bunch of commands that I am not familiar with, and it has a nice interface that is accessible over a terminal |
| 23:31.31 | aypea[1] | Vasistha: https://answers.launchpad.net/wicd/+question/227789 |
| 23:31.31 | Twinkletoes | Vasistha: Ok! |
| 23:31.44 | aypea[1] | so probably best not to be reliant on it. |
| 23:32.29 | Vasistha | aypea[1]: that is a shame; hopefully networkmanager will meet my needs if and when wicd stops being reliable |
| 23:32.54 | aypea[1] | Vasistha: yeah. I liked wicd. nm has improved but it... still has icky bits. |
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| 23:33.50 | aypea[1] | primary icky: switching from ethernet to wireless (and vice versa, without disconnecting wireless for eg) means you wind up with two default gateways. |
| 23:33.54 | Vasistha | lulzfish4: your target device is named 2013-08-18? |
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| 23:34.19 | Vasistha | aypea[1]: does nm yet have some kind of user-friendly terminal-based interface? |
| 23:34.21 | lulzfish4 | Vasistha: yes it's a file I wrote random data into |
| 23:34.48 | aypea[1] | Vasistha: not sure. I have a memory of something but I can't tell if it's wicd or nm. it's been a while. |
| 23:35.19 | Vasistha | lulzfish4: well the first thing that is raising a red flag is that the command is calling for a "device" so you may need to map that file to be a device via losetup |
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| 23:37.04 | nkuttler | Vasistha: well, if you haven't done it yet you should probably try the latest kernel first |
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| 23:37.31 | Vasistha | Linux saraswati 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-486 #1 Debian 3.2.46-1~bpo60+1 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 23:37.37 | nkuttler | Vasistha: and see https://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernelReportingBugs |
| 23:38.27 | Twinkletoes | Vasistha: Man this is hard... is there any way to get the entire list of dependencies for wicd? I don't have any networking at the moment |
| 23:39.00 | lulzfish4 | Vasistha: You're right. I got further if I ran "losetup -f 2013-08-18" to put it on /dev/loop0, then called cryptsetup on /dev/loop0. However now it's saying my kernel doesn't support AES. Probably need to load some modules |
| 23:39.53 | Vasistha | nkuttler: thanks! So I need to install a newer kernel for testing ... that is a big task ... for another day :-) |
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| 23:40.50 | Vasistha | Twinkletoes: ahh. There is a way using aptitude but I don't know off the top of my head. I may have a list myself somewhere, as I have had to do this in the past. |
| 23:41.47 | Twinkletoes | Vasistha: Thanks :) |
| 23:43.14 | Vasistha | Twinkletoes: hmm, I cannot find my list :P |
| 23:43.15 | zykotick9 | Twinkletoes: "apt-cache depends wicd" or rdepends for the reverse, might help |
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| 23:43.36 | Vasistha | yay! someone with the right answer chimes in |
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| 23:45.23 | Vasistha | Twinkletoes: I am hopeful that this is the right approach for you -- I have had to connect wireless without wicd before, and at this point I avoid that as much as possible... perhaps it would be a useful skill to have but I have chosen not to nurture it :P |
| 23:46.53 | Pudge | Vasistha: just edit ur /etc/network/interfaces file, and u can have your connection |
| 23:47.13 | Vasistha | Pudge: when there is encryption it is not at all that simple |
| 23:47.14 | zykotick9 | Twinkletoes: you could use /e/n/i to get your wireless going, then install wicd |
| 23:47.35 | Vasistha | Pudge: and also editing the /etc/network/interfaces file is a big pita that is horrendously badly documented |
| 23:47.44 | zykotick9 | "wpa-psk foo".... not too hard? |
| 23:47.45 | Pudge | Vasistha: it's more simple than what u think about |
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| 23:47.53 | Twinkletoes | i've managed to get a really long network cable so now I have wired network, but when I try to aptitude insall wicd - it says no candidate dfound |
| 23:48.06 | Pudge | Vasistha: 4 lines, thats all |
| 23:48.07 | Vasistha | Twinkletoes: well hey it looks like you have some guidance here! |
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| 23:48.39 | Vasistha | Pudge: what are the four lines? I would love to have that for my records!! |
| 23:48.43 | zykotick9 | Twinkletoes: if you didn't have network during install, your sources.list might not have any network repos... |
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| 23:49.01 | Munchor | Hi, say I have a question about package management and a request to update a package on Debian, is this the right place to ask or is there a more suited place for it? |
| 23:49.17 | zykotick9 | Vasistha: mine has 6 lines for wireless... |
| 23:49.20 | themill | Munchor: which package? |
| 23:49.34 | Munchor | themill: granite (libgranite-dev) |
| 23:49.37 | Vasistha | zykotick9: would you mind sharing an example? |
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| 23:50.21 | zykotick9 | Vasistha: http://paste.debian.net/27242/ |
| 23:50.29 | Munchor | it's on Debian already, but an old version of it, if I could get someone who would update it, I'd make a new release in the next few days and work with that person to get it updated |
| 23:50.47 | Pudge | Vasistha: http://code.bulix.org/c7k3u2-84289 |
| 23:51.51 | Vasistha | wow zykotick9, Pudge, that really is incredibly easy. I had no idea. thank you both. |
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| 23:52.34 | Pudge | lol static mode takes more lines |
| 23:52.35 | themill | Munchor: "reportbug libgranite-dev" and file a wishlist bug asking for it to be updated. (The package is only in experimental so it's barely in debian at all) |
| 23:52.56 | capox | Im playing with a virtualbox image of debian for replicable dev env |
| 23:53.09 | Munchor | themill: reportbug is some sort of a command somewhere? |
| 23:53.18 | themill | dpkg: tell Munchor about reportbug |
| 23:53.25 | capox | what do you think is a minimal functional (headless) debian server disk size? |
| 23:53.30 | Munchor | thanks themill I got it |
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| 23:54.26 | Vasistha | capox: I think you are going to have to provide a little bit more information in order to get a real answer; Also the debian installation guide may hold the answer you seek |
| 23:55.16 | Vasistha | Twinkletoes: did you try making an /etc/network/interfaces from one of those examples? |
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| 23:55.50 | Twinkletoes | Vasistha: I will try, but at the moment, everythign I Try to install from teh repos, it says no candidate version found |
| 23:56.11 | Twinkletoes | I've jsut uncommented the lines in the repo that the installer commetned because there was no network at the time |
| 23:56.12 | Vasistha | Twinkletoes: maybe you need to update your sources.list |
| 23:56.27 | zykotick9 | Twinkletoes: i'd guess you ONLY have CDROM/DVD in your sources right now... |
| 23:56.51 | capox | So I am asking for ideas on minimum install disk size for headless environment with build-essentials, c-compilers, lisp, scheme, vim, emacs, git, apache + modules, ruby, few dozen megs of gems |
| 23:57.01 | Twinkletoes | zykotick9: ah, there's security and updates, but no base except cdrom |
| 23:57.33 | Vasistha | Twinkletoes: yeah, you need to get a real mirror in there, preferably a fast local one |
| 23:58.01 | zykotick9 | Twinkletoes: exactly (to be expected, if you didn't have network during install) |
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| 23:59.06 | capox | I attempted a virtualbox network install with 1.06 GB (phys) disk size, and if fills early in the software install phase |
| 23:59.16 | capox | *it |
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| 23:59.22 | Twinkletoes | difference between aptitude and apt-get when running from the command line? |
| 23:59.32 | Vasistha | !tell Twinkletoes about mirror list |
| 23:59.47 | Twinkletoes | Vasistha: ty :) |
