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| 00:02.24 | abrotman | tuxy: you should be using wheezy |
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| 00:08.49 | somiaj | tuxy: just jessi, again there are no jessie-updates, as testing is in flux. Also listen to abrotman, if you have to ask it is a sign you should be using stable. |
| 00:09.32 | tuxy | abrotman, wheezy doesnt have the NIC drivers for my motherboard |
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| 00:10.47 | somiaj | tuxy: you can get 3.10 kernel from backports. Are your drivers there? |
| 00:10.56 | tuxy | yea, it is in the newest kernel |
| 00:11.12 | tuxy | weird tho...I installed jessie and now the internet still isn't working as it should |
| 00:11.18 | somiaj | then you can install the 3.10 kernel via backports and still be on wheezy |
| 00:11.32 | somiaj | did you install the non-free firmware package (some nics require them) |
| 00:12.08 | tuxy | somiaj, it didn't ask me to choose anything |
| 00:12.13 | tuxy | this is a minimal install |
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| 00:12.37 | somiaj | well you should run wheezy and getbackports, so I would reinstall wheezy |
| 00:12.44 | somiaj | also tell me what nic you have so I can see if you need firmware or not |
| 00:13.07 | somiaj | (by default non-free firmware is not installed) |
| 00:13.16 | maroloccio | what is the rule for stuff that goes in /etc/default? (Vs other /etc/ subdirs) |
| 00:14.07 | tuxy | somiaj, it's the Intel I217 |
| 00:14.16 | tuxy | I217/I210 |
| 00:14.27 | cafuego | somiaj: that contains user-editable init script vars, usually. |
| 00:14.35 | Th0masR0ss | !#debian-next |
| 00:15.07 | cafuego | somiaj: that way users don't edit /etc/init.d/* and an init script update doesn't blow away changes to default arrgs for services. |
| 00:15.17 | somiaj | cafuego: do you mean maroloccio ? |
| 00:15.21 | cafuego | sorry, I meant mario |
| 00:15.27 | cafuego | sorry, I meant maroloccio . yes. :-) |
| 00:19.00 | tuxy | somiaj, I can ping to the host, but I can't ssh into it |
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| 00:19.12 | somiaj | tuxy: seems that nic doesn't need firmware. Did you install the ssh package? |
| 00:19.44 | somiaj | but looks like running wheezy with a kernel from backports will work for that nic and be far preferable over running jessie like you are doing |
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| 00:22.03 | tuxy | somiaj, so how can I install a kernel from backports if I am installing from a netinstall iso? |
| 00:22.29 | somiaj | tuxy: you will most likely have to download the .deb and copy it over since it won't have an internet connenction |
| 00:23.02 | somiaj | along with the dependencies, I forget if there are unoffical installers with that packported kernel or not |
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| 00:24.23 | tuxy | somiaj, that is not an option at all since now I have no way to copy them over |
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| 00:25.23 | somiaj | yea I only see firmware installers, not ones with the backported kernel. |
| 00:25.29 | somiaj | no usb drive? |
| 00:25.59 | somiaj | copy them onto your $HOME partition now, while you have internet access and then they will just be there |
| 00:26.38 | abrotman | use the firmware installer |
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| 00:27.08 | somiaj | abrotman: that would help? this is a kernel version issue (no drivers) vs needing firmware |
| 00:27.19 | tuxy | somiaj, I dont have internet access. im installing this on a remote box |
| 00:27.48 | tuxy | I gues I have internet acces now and can put it in $HOME |
| 00:28.06 | tuxy | this is weird...system is not able to resolve hosts |
| 00:28.25 | somiaj | tuxy: cat /etc/resolv.conf (valid nameserver in there?) |
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| 00:29.23 | maxxe | are there any emacs backports for wheezy? |
| 00:29.52 | abrotman | probably not |
| 00:30.01 | abrotman | maxxe: packages.debian.org/emacs |
| 00:30.16 | tuxy | somiaj, I put one ther eright now |
| 00:30.20 | tuxy | do I need to restart? |
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| 00:30.52 | maxxe | abrotman: I'll backport it myself :) |
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| 00:31.00 | somiaj | tuxy: you do not need to restart |
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| 00:31.12 | abrotman | maxxe: good luck |
| 00:32.05 | tapout | ?? openvpn |
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| 00:32.16 | tapout | !tell tapout about openvpn |
| 00:32.29 | Dan39 | !openvpn |
| 00:32.29 | dpkg | OpenVPN is a <VPN> daemon, which can securely tunnel IP networks over one UDP or TCP port. Packaged for Debian, provides "openvpn" ifupdown hooks to <interfaces>. Add "script-security 2" in configuration files for use of external commands. http://openvpn.net/ #openvpn on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:32.35 | Dan39 | tapout: ^^ |
| 00:33.24 | somiaj | maxxe: maybe uupdate would work, doesn't appear to have a newer version in debian. |
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| 00:34.08 | somiaj | maxxe: oh nevermind, there is an emacs24 package |
| 00:34.13 | somiaj | ,check-backport emacs24 |
| 00:34.19 | judd | Backporting package emacs24 in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy, virtual. |
| 00:34.48 | tuxy | somiaj, I used the nameserver of my datacenter and the public google dns servers |
| 00:34.54 | tuxy | still wont resolve |
| 00:34.56 | tuxy | which is weird |
| 00:35.46 | abrotman | somiaj: you can backport a virtual package, yay! :) |
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| 00:37.13 | maxxe | sounds promising.... :) |
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| 00:41.06 | tuxy | abrotman, k im getting tired of this nonsense going on here |
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| 00:43.12 | tuxy | abrotman, unable to resolve hostnames |
| 00:44.08 | tuxy | I can ping to it |
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| 00:44.41 | tuxy | somiaj, ? |
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| 00:50.02 | abrotman | tuxy: i told you to install wheezy? |
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| 00:51.06 | tuxy | ok |
| 00:51.10 | tuxy | abrotman, it worked |
| 00:51.11 | tuxy | phew |
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| 00:54.06 | dklieou | Could anyone ive me a and remappin some keys? a few of my keys stopped workin :( |
| 00:54.20 | Dan39 | stopped working... o_O |
| 00:54.26 | Dan39 | spill coffee on keyboard? |
| 00:54.50 | dklieou | (Te quick brown fox jumps over te lazy do.) |
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| 00:55.00 | Dan39 | ha |
| 00:55.04 | dklieou | Dan39: actually, no. i ave no idea ow it appened. |
| 00:55.05 | Dan39 | is it the keyboard, or system? |
| 00:55.10 | Dan39 | try different keyboard |
| 00:55.13 | dklieou | i assume te keyboard. |
| 00:55.23 | Dan39 | get a new keyboard |
| 00:55.25 | dklieou | in any case i woke up and it was like tat. |
| 00:55.29 | dklieou | ok. |
| 00:55.33 | dklieou | but for now... |
| 00:55.37 | Dan39 | what other option is there? |
| 00:55.39 | dklieou | i need an alt key |
| 00:55.42 | Dan39 | heh |
| 00:55.49 | dklieou | and super sucks |
| 00:55.55 | dklieou | so i need it to be my alt key |
| 00:56.09 | DNS | tink abou ow often you ave forgotten a . |
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| 00:57.40 | dklieou | ... |
| 00:57.49 | dklieou | i ave periods |
| 00:57.52 | tuxy | ok abrotman ...im up and running |
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| 00:59.40 | Rojod | hello |
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| 01:00.01 | Rojod | somebody knows the solotion of this; |
| 01:00.02 | Rojod | update-rc.d: warning: cron stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (none) |
| 01:00.02 | Rojod | ? |
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| 01:01.08 | somiaj | Rojod: it is a warning, seems you have changed the settings from the defaults (such as diasbling a service) |
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| 01:01.20 | Rojod | not as I know |
| 01:01.37 | somiaj | Rojod: look up the LSB init scripts, your headers do not agree with what was done it seems |
| 01:01.38 | Dan39 | dklieou: after a quick google, seems you may be able to do it with xmodmap |
| 01:01.48 | Rojod | hm |
| 01:01.49 | Rojod | ok |
| 01:01.57 | somiaj | Rojod: you told it to stop in 0 1 6, but the LSB headers dont' have any Stop values, so it assumes (none) |
| 01:02.01 | Dan39 | binding to other key like that is little different, binds i always do are for a command haha |
| 01:02.16 | somiaj | Rojod: https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScriptshttps://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
| 01:02.24 | Dan39 | you could probably also edit the keyboard mapping, but that may be complicated |
| 01:02.26 | somiaj | Rojod: my mouse double pastes a lot, sorry |
| 01:02.53 | Dan39 | dklieou: really tho, you dont have any keyboard laying around? |
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| 01:03.09 | Rojod | hm, no LSB or thing in /etc/init.d/ |
| 01:03.14 | Rojod | any way, will check the link |
| 01:03.17 | dklieou | Dan39: no. |
| 01:03.28 | Dan39 | xmodmap seems the way to go |
| 01:03.39 | somiaj | Rojod: the are headers you need in your /etc/init.d/ script you are messing with |
| 01:04.47 | somiaj | Rojod: but that warning is just that, and you can safely ignore it provided you set up the script/links correclty |
| 01:04.54 | dklieou | Dan39: yay! i did it. |
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| 01:04.59 | dklieou | alttab is back! |
| 01:05.13 | Dan39 | success! |
| 01:05.17 | Rojod | yeah |
| 01:05.21 | Rojod | I readed that |
| 01:05.25 | Rojod | but I do; update-rc.d cron defaults |
| 01:05.42 | Rojod | and it seems that it hasn't did something |
| 01:05.47 | dklieou | can someone ive me an uppercase h please? |
| 01:06.00 | Rojod | H |
| 01:06.01 | Rojod | > |
| 01:06.02 | Dan39 | ive me? |
| 01:06.06 | Rojod | -? |
| 01:06.07 | Dan39 | H h HHH hh |
| 01:06.10 | Dan39 | <_< |
| 01:06.15 | dklieou | Dan39: yea |
| 01:06.20 | somiaj | Rojod: what version of debian. Seems here in sid the default-stop is blank, not sure why. |
| 01:06.28 | dklieou | and a _ for ive |
| 01:06.50 | Rojod | ehm |
| 01:06.52 | Rojod | lets see |
| 01:07.01 | dklieou | i'd just oole it if i could |
| 01:07.09 | dklieou | _oo_le |
| 01:07.10 | somiaj | Rojod: well also seems I have no stop links for cron. so default shoudln't put those links there |
| 01:07.31 | Rojod | Debian 6 32 bit |
| 01:07.41 | Rojod | dklieou, g / G? |
| 01:07.49 | dklieou | Rojod: perfect! |
| 01:07.51 | dklieou | tanks |
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| 01:08.22 | Rojod | hm |
| 01:08.38 | Rojod | I did 'crontab -e' and added something there |
| 01:08.49 | Rojod | guide said this would work :| |
| 01:09.23 | Rojod | I have that block in the init.d file btw |
| 01:09.49 | Rojod | (another file, what should do the same as the crontab) |
| 01:10.06 | somiaj | Rojod: then why are you running 'update-rc.d cron defaults'? seems unrelated to edditing your crontab, as that should be enabled and running by default |
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| 01:11.03 | Rojod | well, the cronjob is to start ts3_startscript.sh |
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| 01:11.30 | abrotman | still not related |
| 01:11.41 | Rojod | because it errors when I do ts3 in place of cron |
| 01:11.46 | abrotman | okay |
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| 01:12.21 | Rojod | hm, I should do a restart |
| 01:12.42 | Rojod | Ok, my problem; |
| 01:12.59 | Rojod | I would auto start a ts3 server at the start of the VPS |
| 01:13.06 | Rojod | so it will be auto always online |
| 01:13.29 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Rojod about enter |
| 01:14.21 | Rojod | So I made the init.d-file (will link to the paste in a moment) and tried 'update-rc.d cron defaults' |
| 01:14.27 | Rojod | * update-rc.d ts3 defaults |
| 01:14.32 | Rojod | but I got an error |
| 01:14.37 | abrotman | no, it's a warning |
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| 01:15.24 | iateadonut | what's the secret of a multi-domain mail server? |
| 01:15.32 | iateadonut | is there some magic scripts floating around? |
| 01:16.03 | abrotman | depends on your MTA probably |
| 01:16.57 | Rojod | File; http://paste.devcube.eu/index.php?show=40 - Error; http://www.paste.devcube.eu/index.php?show=41 |
| 01:17.17 | iateadonut | i'm at square one. just hoping someone knows of a good configuration program to set up a whole thing. |
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| 01:18.24 | somiaj | Rojod: you need to chmod +x the script you wrote |
| 01:18.51 | somiaj | Rojod: the very last line is the only error. You may also need to make it complient and accept 'start', 'stop', 'reload' correctly check /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 01:18.54 | somiaj | less /etc/ini.d/sk |
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| 01:19.48 | Rojod | well |
| 01:20.18 | Rojod | lets try... Didn't know very much about Debian, but just enough to work with it :$ |
| 01:20.42 | somiaj | Rojod: note if you want simple, just start the server from /etc/rc.local |
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| 01:21.04 | Rojod | well; the problem isn't the start, but the auto start after a reboot |
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| 01:21.35 | somiaj | Rojod: that is what /etc/rc.local does, runs every time the server starts up |
| 01:21.49 | Rojod | ah :) nice! thnx :) |
| 01:22.18 | somiaj | a proper /etc/init.d script is recomended, but sometimes simple works. |
| 01:23.04 | Rojod | what does I need to add there? the content of the init.d-script? |
| 01:23.27 | somiaj | Rojod: that is a script, you can probalby just add the line to run the server and don't need all that setup |
| 01:24.16 | Rojod | ok, thnx! |
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| 01:26.11 | Rojod | does it try to run the cmd as user that edited the file, or always as sudo? |
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| 01:26.46 | somiaj | Rojod: runs it as root, so you need the whole su line to run it as a paticular user |
| 01:27.02 | Rojod | ok |
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| 01:28.15 | Rojod | lets try :D |
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| 01:29.29 | Rojod | still doesn't work :S |
| 01:29.45 | Rojod | owh |
| 01:29.58 | Rojod | sorry, my faul :$ |
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| 01:50.24 | Rojod | somiaj, other question; you know something about cronjobs? |
| 01:50.50 | somiaj | Rojod: what do you want a cronjob to do? |
| 01:51.06 | somiaj | Rojod: best to just ask your question to the channel |
| 01:51.11 | Rojod | nah, just reading some reaction of a guide I followed |
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| 01:51.20 | Rojod | wondering of you could do something as; |
| 01:51.32 | Rojod | @reboot echo hi (for example) |
| 01:51.55 | somiaj | Rojod: but where you would the output, stdout of the script running may not be where you want it |
| 01:52.03 | somiaj | Rojod: so you should redirect it to a file or somewhere you can see it |
| 01:52.11 | somiaj | Rojod: *see the output |
| 01:53.42 | Rojod | Nice for the server-uptime, those reboots :p |
| 01:54.15 | MonkWitDaFunk | Hi. Which package is the lock screen where you have to login with user password? |
| 01:54.33 | abrotman | console or X? |
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| 01:54.46 | MonkWitDaFunk | Xterm? |
| 01:55.15 | somiaj | MonkWitDaFunk: verious different ways, both xscreensaver and xlockmore are common screensavers that lock your screen. There are other simplier ones. |
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| 01:56.29 | MonkWitDaFunk | Ok. I think rebooting is great with linux. We got the hot keys |
| 01:57.53 | Rojod | Must say; learned a lot about DNS and about working with a terminal last days :) |
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| 01:58.26 | MonkWitDaFunk | Hi rojod |
| 01:58.32 | Rojod | hi |
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| 01:58.59 | MonkWitDaFunk | Terminal as in thin client? |
| 01:59.21 | MonkWitDaFunk | DNS as in a domain? |
| 01:59.49 | Rojod | DNS as in reverse dns, A records, and CNAME. Terminal als in SSH |
| 02:01.13 | codepython777 | I've a debian box that i just rebooted and am getting: ssh: connect to host IPv4 port 22: Connection refused - any ideas what could have gone wrong? |
| 02:01.13 | Rojod | back for a time |
| 02:01.40 | MonkWitDaFunk | Yeah. Ive herd of ssh. You need to implemebt it if your doing a fileserver right? |
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| 02:02.44 | Rojod | codepython777, try again now ;) |
| 02:02.55 | codepython777 | Rojod: ?? |
| 02:03.07 | Rojod | maybe you was to fast with connect ;) |
| 02:03.13 | codepython777 | no |
| 02:03.17 | codepython777 | i've tried 10 times |
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| 02:03.23 | codepython777 | everytime its the same problem |
| 02:03.34 | rjsalts | codepython777: you have access via another means? |
| 02:03.43 | codepython777 | not right now |
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| 02:04.01 | codepython777 | I could go to it tomorrow morning and boot it physically and look at it. |
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| 02:04.11 | Rojod | does it runs something? Like a domain? |
| 02:04.25 | codepython777 | It just runs ssh server |
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| 02:05.22 | codepython777 | why are connection refused by ssh servers? I tried as 2 separate users, same problem |
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| 02:05.41 | rjsalts | codepython777: I'd assume that init is failing to get to the ssh init script or that the ssh server is failing for some reason, but if you don't have out of band access or physical access there is not much troubleshooting you can do |
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| 02:05.54 | cafuego | codepython777: 1) Network is not up. 2) SSH server not running. |
| 02:06.11 | rjsalts | codepython777: or there is a firewall with DENY clause |
| 02:06.13 | somiaj | codepython777: connection refused is saying the server is not running. Why it did not start, could be various reasons |
| 02:06.22 | cafuego | or 3) You're in the firewall with a REJECT rule. |
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| 02:06.39 | cafuego | Can you ping the server's IP? |
| 02:06.48 | rjsalts | codepython777: what cafuego said REJECT, not DENY |
| 02:07.00 | codepython777 | I was logged in, did an apt-get update/upgrade - then rebooted |
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| 02:07.02 | codepython777 | ping orks |
| 02:07.03 | cafuego | rjsalts: What is this, Linux 2.2 with ipchains? ;-) |
| 02:07.04 | codepython777 | ping works |
| 02:07.41 | rjsalts | cafuego: you never know, that might be what's wrong! |
| 02:07.42 | codepython777 | there was some kernel update + something related with boot etc it seemed, didnt think much |
| 02:07.44 | cafuego | So either ssh didn't start or you're firewalled. |
| 02:07.53 | cafuego | *or* |
| 02:07.54 | somiaj | codepython777: what version of debian? |
| 02:08.04 | codepython777 | wheezy |
| 02:08.06 | cafuego | It never retarted and is just sitting there in single user mode |
| 02:08.27 | codepython777 | i can ping it, so it did restart, right? |
| 02:08.33 | rjsalts | it doesn't usually bring up network in single user |
| 02:08.36 | cafuego | Not if it didn't complete shutdown |
| 02:08.57 | somiaj | codepython777: seems weird, but with out another means of access you may have to wait. |
| 02:09.02 | codepython777 | ah ! ok, it might not have shutdown properly |
| 02:09.02 | cafuego | If it stopped all services and then failed to reboot.... |
| 02:09.18 | cafuego | Either way, nothing you can do remotely so you may as well not worry about it now and go drinking instead. |
| 02:09.48 | codepython777 | I Agree - I need some Tequila - beer wont help. This is a production machine! 30 users hanging in air :) |
| 02:10.23 | rjsalts | this is why I like servers with remote console access, even if most of them do it via some awful java applet |
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| 02:11.41 | codepython777 | rjsalts: This is my own machine. How can i configure it so that i get console access to it? |
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| 02:12.55 | cafuego | codepython777: You'll want hardware for that, iLO module |
| 02:13.37 | cafuego | codepython777: such a module has its own IP and you can hit it via a web browser. they usually emulate a console so you get bios etc access remotely. |
| 02:13.59 | Rojod | well, maybe just Webmin or something? |
| 02:14.08 | cafuego | No, not webmin. |
| 02:14.15 | zykotick9 | !tell Rojod about webmin |
| 02:14.40 | cafuego | If the answer is webmin, the question was "What did I do wrong?" |
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| 02:16.03 | Rojod | Well, than I am happy I did purge now. |
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| 02:16.21 | codepython777 | cafuego: What do i needto buy? |
| 02:16.27 | rjsalts | codepython777: if the server doesn't have out of band management then the closest thing you could get is to set up access to the console via serial port and attach it to another computer or a dial up modem |
| 02:16.35 | cafuego | codepython777: a server mainboard with iLOM |
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| 02:17.06 | cafuego | and you need to get a separate IP provisioned for it, too |
| 02:17.16 | Rojod | Is there a way to see the packages you have installed? |
| 02:17.22 | cafuego | dpkg -l |
| 02:17.22 | dpkg | Files in package cafuego-pr0n: /srv/cafuego-pr0n/cafuego.jpg |
| 02:17.38 | cafuego | That's in /var dpkg... but I'll dymlink it for you. |
| 02:17.52 | codepython777 | cafuego: I remember that when i bought the supermicro motherboard for the server, they talked about IPMI or things like that |
| 02:17.54 | rjsalts | codepython777: most name brand rackmount servers have a solution, dell has drac, hp call it iLO, IBM call it LOM, ... |
| 02:17.58 | codepython777 | Perhaps one ofthese could be useful |
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| 02:18.28 | cafuego | Anyway, I need to go on site to mess with a server I can't ssh to .. :-) |
| 02:18.52 | codepython777 | I think its this one: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/xeon/c216/x9sae.cfm |
| 02:20.04 | id10t | anyone ever play with armel on a cheap netbook? wm8650 chipset |
| 02:20.13 | id10t | possible? |
| 02:20.19 | Rojod | Hm, Open Panel is safe? :# |
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| 02:20.37 | rjsalts | codepython777: in the management section it talks about supermicro superdoctor |
| 02:20.48 | rjsalts | codepython777: that's the stuff you want |
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| 02:24.18 | rjsalts | codepython777: actually, that might be useless |
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| 02:26.35 | codepython777 | rjsalts: thanks :) |
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| 02:47.41 | iateadonut | Rojod, why did you mention 'open panel' and safety? |
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| 02:48.14 | Rojod | well, webmin wasn't safe, and I want to know if it is safe to use Open Panel on Debian :# |
| 02:48.23 | Rojod | but the bot didn't told me about it |
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| 02:52.54 | pseudonym_1000 | Rojod: it's only as safe as they make it and safe as you configure it properly. that being said they have an open security bug that is unfixed on their own issue tracker right now. |
| 02:53.01 | pseudonym_1000 | so i'm going to go with, probably just as unsafe. |
| 02:53.30 | Rojod | well |
| 02:53.48 | Rojod | time to find something that is hasn't leaks or bugs |
| 02:53.57 | pseudonym_1000 | but it depends on your particular environment and how it's being used, what kind of users you have on the machine also and their capabilities both permissions-wise and with php programming |
| 02:54.13 | pseudonym_1000 | Rojod: good luck with that :P |
| 02:54.28 | Rojod | Hm |
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| 02:54.35 | Rojod | maybe GNUpanel |
| 02:55.26 | abrotman | maybe just learn to do things correctly |
| 02:55.31 | pseudonym_1000 | software always has bugs and security issues can come up at any time, you just have to be vigilent in tracking known security issues with the software you're running on your machine, use best security practices in all things, etc |
| 02:55.42 | pseudonym_1000 | or that |
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| 02:55.51 | abrotman | webmin has more than its fair share .. |
| 02:56.08 | pseudonym_1000 | webmin is virtually not worth having afaic |
| 02:56.24 | pseudonym_1000 | it's been exploited and re-exploited tons of times, regularly |
| 02:56.33 | dvs | hugs webmin |
| 02:56.51 | abrotman | it exploits itself~ |
| 02:56.52 | abrotman | ! |
| 02:56.53 | pseudonym_1000 | easy of system use isn't worth screwing your security over entirely |
| 02:56.56 | pseudonym_1000 | ease* |
| 02:57.06 | Rojod | hm, ok |
| 02:57.19 | pseudonym_1000 | better to make your own scripts to automate specific things or just do things the right way without a panel |
| 02:57.43 | pseudonym_1000 | especially one that uses PHP |
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| 02:58.00 | Rojod | Yeah, own scripts are nice :) But to make a new idea of cPanel / DirectAdmin? |
| 02:58.20 | Rojod | because I believe any new panel will be like those... |
| 02:58.22 | Rojod | (or plesk) |
| 02:58.24 | pseudonym_1000 | well you can just automate specific processes that you'd spend the most time on |
| 02:58.35 | pseudonym_1000 | with your own scripts not written in PHP |
| 02:59.05 | pseudonym_1000 | and protect their execution with linux's own filesystem security |
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| 03:00.10 | pseudonym_1000 | with anything like cpanel, plesk (plesk is a terrible product), etc, you're getting a lot of bloat and the attack footprint just gets huge unless you REALLY understand the innerworkings of those products and your own system (which you likely won't if you're using them in the first place) |
| 03:01.07 | pseudonym_1000 | plesk is a huge monstrosity that no one, even Plesk engineers, fully understand |
| 03:01.28 | pseudonym_1000 | speaking from experience dealing with Plesk for 2 years and paid plesk support "engineers" |
| 03:01.52 | pseudonym_1000 | thousands of dollars later, the outfit i'm speaking of no longer uses Plesk |
| 03:02.16 | Rojod | so what do you use? |
| 03:02.24 | pseudonym_1000 | my fingers and keyboard and mouse |
| 03:02.47 | pseudonym_1000 | and in-house scripts built specifically for our needs |
| 03:03.16 | Rojod | hm, ok |
| 03:03.19 | pseudonym_1000 | most things don't require them anyway |
| 03:03.24 | Rojod | and you are the only user? |
| 03:03.37 | pseudonym_1000 | no, it's a production server environment at a datacenter |
| 03:04.14 | tengulre | I want build a file &meida&game server in my home, anybody give me some tips? |
| 03:04.19 | Rojod | hm, ok.. Can you give an indication how many it use? |
| 03:04.21 | pseudonym_1000 | hence the thousands and thousands overpaid on trying to get plesk to fix their own software's issues and failing continously then still charging us for the support |
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| 03:04.24 | iateadonut | setting up email is tough, though. |
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| 03:04.40 | iateadonut | for multiple domains. |
| 03:04.46 | iateadonut | even a single one |
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| 03:05.32 | pseudonym_1000 | Rojod: not really, no. i try to avoid talking about specifics like that in an ultra public forum where everything's being logged and people are intentionally collecting data to use in attacks |
| 03:05.49 | Rojod | ah, ok |
| 03:06.15 | Rojod | well; do they all understand how to work with it? |
| 03:06.59 | iateadonut | pseudonym_1000 - where's the open panel security bug? |
| 03:07.12 | pseudonym_1000 | http://bugtracker.openpanel.com/issues/1074 |
| 03:07.59 | pseudonym_1000 | "I'll have a look at this. The security considerations for the current version of OpenPanel do imply that individual users are not mutually hostile, but if there are settings that make it better I'm not adverse to including them." |
| 03:08.12 | pseudonym_1000 | poor practice shown from that comment, in and of itself |
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| 03:09.10 | pseudonym_1000 | that was just from a quick web search |
| 03:10.21 | Rojod | well, I can't find something about GNUpanel now |
| 03:10.25 | Rojod | so I might try that |
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| 03:26.06 | iateadonut | syscp might be one you want to try |
| 03:26.59 | iateadonut | what can i do with these ipv6 addresses? |
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| 03:27.39 | pseudonym_1000 | talk to other ipv6 clients |
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| 03:28.16 | pseudonym_1000 | hosts* was probably a better word |
| 03:29.36 | toothpick | is this a different channel compared to #debian irc in empathy? |
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| 03:30.26 | zykotick9 | toothpick: dunno, did you join #debian on freenode OR oftc? 'cause those are different. |
| 03:30.30 | pseudonym_1000 | if you look at your entry in empathy for freenode and it's pointing to freenode |
| 03:30.42 | pseudonym_1000 | then it's the same, otherwise, it's not |
| 03:30.46 | toothpick | zykotick9: i joined #debian on irc.debian.org |
| 03:30.57 | toothpick | zykotick9: is that different from this? i thought they should be all the same |
| 03:31.04 | zykotick9 | toothpick: then it's different. this is #debian on freenode |
| 03:31.20 | pseudonym_1000 | irc.debian.org isn't irc.freenode.net |
| 03:31.27 | zykotick9 | toothpick: this is the non-official channel. |
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| 03:31.43 | toothpick | oh. ok sorry for the confusion. |
| 03:32.15 | toothpick | i need help with creating a shortcut on gnome 3 in debian |
| 03:32.20 | toothpick | what is the best place to ask |
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| 03:33.05 | zykotick9 | toothpick: "probably" here, more people then OFTC usually. |
| 03:33.19 | pseudonym_1000 | #gnome or here |
| 03:33.33 | rryoumaa | i am trying to find out what files i changed in /etc. what are good ways of doing that? |
| 03:34.01 | pseudonym_1000 | and ls -l within /etc should show file modification dates and times |
| 03:34.08 | zykotick9 | rryoumaa: keeping track of "what you changed", is my method... |
| 03:34.12 | Blue1 | rryoumaa: ls -ltr (lists the files in reverse order) so that the last one touched, is the last file listed |
| 03:35.00 | pseudonym_1000 | if you're using sudo to make the changes you're speaking of, there will likely be a log of your sudo commands so you can track what you've accessed |
| 03:35.12 | rryoumaa | Blue1: what's a good way to do an ls -l of the entire tree that way? |
| 03:35.13 | rryoumaa | zykotick9: i like your style |
| 03:35.34 | toothpick | Ok Here is my question. I have an exe file that runs with wine. How to create a shortcut of it in gnome3 either on Desktop or in gnome3 quick launch panel? |
| 03:35.37 | rryoumaa | pseudonym_1000: i was thinking if i could find any file with mtime greater than ctime maybe that owuld work? |
| 03:36.23 | pseudonym_1000 | a -R in your ls command will tell it to list things recursively (aka subdirectories) |
| 03:36.31 | rryoumaa | i do use etckeeper, if that helps, but it also has other changes and git log won't show the total effect |
| 03:36.58 | Blue1 | rryoumaa: ls -ltrR |
| 03:37.02 | rryoumaa | pseudonym_1000: i thought that would not list files in the correct order, because it has to show subdirs |
| 03:37.50 | rryoumaa | but suppose i did that with find and stat or something. then how do i eliminate all the stuff taht aptitude changed? |
| 03:38.04 | Blue1 | someday needs to learn gnome3 but not today. |
| 03:38.50 | pseudonym_1000 | rryoumaa: maybe check /var/log/apt/history.log |
| 03:39.51 | pseudonym_1000 | but if you're talking about the file differences specifically and how to find and remove them, that i don't know off the top of my head |
| 03:40.10 | pseudonym_1000 | or if it's possible without additional software checking the files and how they're modified |
| 03:40.28 | toothpick | How to create a shortcut to Exe file (That runs under wine) on Gnome3 desktop? |
| 03:41.20 | rryoumaa | it's curious that find has no means of comparing mtime to ctime |
| 03:41.21 | pseudonym_1000 | you would probably make the shortcut how you normally would with any file, and have it execute with wine's command line |
| 03:42.15 | pseudonym_1000 | so point the shortcut to run wine then find the command in wine you need to tell it to execute whatever winerized file you're talking about (maybe, just tossing that out there, i don't use wine) |
| 03:42.43 | pseudonym_1000 | that's more of a wine question than a gnome3 specific thing |
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| 03:46.45 | toothpick | pseudonym_1000: no Sir it is a gnome3 question |
| 03:46.59 | toothpick | pseudonym_1000: i have the program working perfectly with wine by just double clicking on it |
| 03:47.34 | toothpick | pseudonym_1000: Sir, I am trying to create a shortcut to it on gnome3 quick launch so I don't have to navigate to the original folder everytime i want to double click on it (to run under wine). |
| 03:50.59 | pseudonym_1000 | toothpick: i don't run wine or gnome so i can't be of much assistance there |
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| 03:52.21 | pseudonym_1000 | and you definitely don't need to call me sir :P |
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| 04:02.12 | Rojod | iateadonut, are you using syscp? |
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| 04:12.21 | eblip | hi has anyone run photoshop on debian |
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| 04:12.32 | eblip | im porting 100 percent to linux |
| 04:12.42 | eblip | but i need photoshop and possibly dreamweaver |
| 04:12.52 | eblip | those are my only worries |
| 04:13.02 | zykotick9 | eblip: check winedb for support |
| 04:13.23 | eblip | winedb....thanks zykotick9 ...ill look into it |
| 04:13.52 | zykotick9 | eblip: http://appdb.winehq.org/ |
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| 04:14.50 | zykotick9 | eblip: but honestly, if you want to run Windows programs, run windows. either look for gnu/linux replacements... or run the origional if that's what you really want. |
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| 04:15.14 | eblip | id rather run linux programmes |
| 04:15.20 | eblip | to be honest |
| 04:15.49 | eblip | its just that i have to do some web pages and image manipulation...part of the time |
| 04:15.55 | zykotick9 | eblip: then look for replacements, obviously gimp can quasi-replace photoshop. for dreamweaver, i have no idea. |
| 04:16.28 | eblip | i heard of gimp....i mean im no top designer ...i only need simple functions |
| 04:16.32 | Rojod | Gimp <3 |
| 04:16.37 | eblip | maybe gimp can handle that |
| 04:16.52 | eblip | rojod have you used gimp |
| 04:16.56 | Rojod | Yep :) |
| 04:16.59 | Rojod | A lot :) |
| 04:17.08 | eblip | is it good enough for professional stuff |
| 04:17.09 | pseudonym_1000 | ebhtura_: if you only need simple functions, gimp has those abilities likely and more |
| 04:17.14 | Rojod | Yeah, it is ;) |
| 04:17.26 | eblip | right im going to roll with that |
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| 04:17.48 | eblip | i mean 90 percent of time i do other stuff that windows doesnt even do very well |
| 04:17.54 | Rojod | dreamweaver; |
| 04:17.56 | zykotick9 | Rojod: i'd hardly call gimp a "professional" replacement of photoshop... but i'm not a graphics person ;) |
| 04:17.58 | eblip | so that just leaves the dreamweaver thing |
| 04:17.59 | pseudonym_1000 | and photoshop CS6 runs in wine on debian wheezy |
| 04:18.09 | Rojod | hm, just notepad :p |
| 04:18.13 | pseudonym_1000 | i set it up for a friend on his laptop a week ago |
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| 04:18.31 | Rojod | Mowh, I can make the images I need for the websites I build |
| 04:18.34 | pseudonym_1000 | or you could run a virtual machine and install photoshop in that i'd assume |
| 04:18.38 | eblip | i was hoping to excape the windows stuff once and for all and never look back |
| 04:18.51 | Rojod | Can make logo's in it... So would be OK for eblip too |
| 04:18.51 | eblip | is the virtual machine openbox |
| 04:18.58 | pseudonym_1000 | try gimp and see that it does what you need then, many use it for professional level work |
| 04:19.11 | pseudonym_1000 | eblip: there's lots of virtual machine software |
| 04:19.14 | eblip | fantastic....this is getting better |
| 04:19.18 | Rojod | eblip, I guess GIMP is for 75% be able to do the same as PS :) |
| 04:19.25 | eblip | i heard of vmware |
| 04:19.31 | pseudonym_1000 | virtualbox, vmware |
| 04:19.33 | eblip | i dont know if its for linux or free |
| 04:19.54 | pseudonym_1000 | vmware has a free version still, it's a pain in the ass to find though on their website, i think it's called vmware workstation or something now |
| 04:20.02 | pseudonym_1000 | oracle's virtualbox is free |
| 04:20.03 | zykotick9 | eblip: vmware is certainly NOT free (as in freedom)! |
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| 04:20.11 | pseudonym_1000 | right |
| 04:20.24 | eblip | virtual box it is |
| 04:20.35 | eblip | wow this is great |
| 04:20.46 | eblip | i might even be able to find another linux tool |
| 04:20.47 | pseudonym_1000 | but they do have a $0.00 version of vmware that runs on a linux host and can run windows guest OS |
| 04:21.19 | zykotick9 | pseudonym_1000: agree with above. free as in beer ;) |
| 04:21.23 | pseudonym_1000 | yep :D |
| 04:21.35 | eblip | maybe ill find something that can handle the dreamweaver stuff |
| 04:21.57 | eblip | its just that i dont know much about web design and dreameaver is quite easy to use |
| 04:22.10 | eblip | i only need to develop 1 site and im done |
| 04:22.14 | zykotick9 | eblip: you "should" be able to find a gnu/linux alternative to dreamweaver... i just don't know what it is... |
| 04:22.19 | pseudonym_1000 | http://www.webdistortion.com/2008/04/12/webdesign-on-a-budget-six-free-alternatives-to-dreamweaver/ |
| 04:22.41 | pseudonym_1000 | old blog but many of the projects still exist |
| 04:22.56 | Rojod | how long did you used dreamweaver, eblip ? |
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| 04:23.47 | pseudonym_1000 | searching the web for "linux wysiwyg editor" should toss you good info |
| 04:24.10 | Rojod | mowh, dreamweaver isn't really wysiwyg |
| 04:24.18 | Rojod | more an editor that auto fill in code |
| 04:24.23 | pseudonym_1000 | well, it tries to be one |
| 04:25.51 | pseudonym_1000 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_HTML_editors |
| 04:25.55 | pseudonym_1000 | may help also |
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| 04:36.10 | tapout | what';s the best way to bounce my packets through my US server? openvpn? I want to access Netflix US on my devices (I'm in Canada) |
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| 04:37.42 | petemc | there are services that do it via dns |
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| 04:42.37 | pseudonym_1000 | openvpn is a good option |
| 04:43.25 | pseudonym_1000 | and would be helpful if you run into future issues related to accessing services from the US |
| 04:44.05 | pseudonym_1000 | or you could pay a place like Witopia that offers a VPN service that lets you basically select the country of origin you're wanting to show up from |
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| 04:48.36 | prompt32 | Is there any way Desktop Icons, to be visible in a specific desktop ?? |
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| 04:54.02 | pseudonym_1000 | prompt32: you might want to include with your question what desktop environment you're using (KDE, Gnome, XFCE, etc) |
| 04:54.43 | prompt32 | pseudonym_1000, Gnome 3.x |
| 04:55.08 | zykotick9 | pseudonym_1000: but i use awesome wm :p ;) |
| 04:55.30 | pseudonym_1000 | prompt32: i won't be any help to you, i don't use gnome |
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| 04:56.06 | prompt32 | pseudonym_1000, What u use ? |
| 04:56.11 | pseudonym_1000 | something besides gnome |
| 04:56.39 | pseudonym_1000 | you might try asking in #gnome though |
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| 04:56.58 | pseudonym_1000 | not that this is a bad place to ask, just that people in there may be quicker to an answer |
| 04:57.22 | prompt32 | pseudonym_1000, yes, i think its more ok ! |
| 04:57.49 | prompt32 | But I have something from here about my net |
| 04:58.41 | rryoumaa | what virtual machine software will allow you to have an application display on the host's x server, be able to copy and paste between them, use the net, and have its filesystem accessible to the host but not vice-versa? |
| 04:59.39 | prompt32 | NetworkManager add something (send hostname ,...) to dhclient.conf, when connected, and i dont know where it happens to stop it. |
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| 05:00.42 | zykotick9 | rryoumaa: i rather doubt, any... good luck. |
| 05:00.57 | pseudonym_1000 | prompt32: you might want to look at /etc/network/interfaces |
| 05:01.23 | prompt32 | I 'almost' believe that this happen because of '/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action', but this is an ELF .. |
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| 05:04.11 | rryoumaa | zykotick9: :( i am looking for a convenient way to run iceweasel semi-isolated |
| 05:05.58 | zykotick9 | rryoumaa: you might want to check out the chroot options, not sure how "convenient" it would be though... good luck. |
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| 05:46.10 | Blue1 | i am trying to compile source, and it says it can't find glib. It is called gir1.2-glib-2.0. I looked at the man for pkg-config -- but I am confused. |
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| 05:49.16 | LtL | Blue1: is build-essential installed? |
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| 05:50.22 | Blue1 | LtL: let me check |
| 05:50.46 | Blue1 | LtL: no |
| 05:51.10 | LtL | Blue1: you need that |
| 05:52.22 | Blue1 | LtL: that did not help let me post what I am getting |
| 05:52.26 | Blue1 | !paste |
| 05:52.27 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 05:53.14 | Blue1 | LtL: http://paste.debian.net/32141/ |
| 05:54.22 | Blue1 | LtL: the library name is changed in wheezy to gir1.2-glib-2.0 |
| 05:55.24 | LtL | Blue1: I don't know, i'm surprised build-essential didn't work. |
| 05:55.28 | LtL | sorry |
| 05:55.51 | Blue1 | LtL: no worries -- It is late and my mind is in jello mode. |
| 05:56.01 | LtL | likewise |
| 05:56.11 | Blue1 | LtL: installed build essential ok, but that didn't fix the problem. |
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| 05:57.27 | LtL | Blue1: maybe a newer kernel might do the trick, i'm not sure at all |
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| 05:58.03 | Blue1 | LtL: I am using wheezy Linux Homer 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 06:03.59 | LtL | Blue1: it would probably compile under jessie but i'm guessing. ask in the daytime, you'll likely get a definitive answer |
| 06:04.33 | Blue1 | LtL: thank you |
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| 06:04.55 | LtL | Blue1: you're welcome, again.. sorry |
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| 06:20.26 | Blue1 | LtL: no worries mate. thank you for looking over my shoulder. |
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| 06:46.21 | handuel | Can anyone reccomend a lightweight powerpoint alternative? |
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| 06:47.49 | handuel | I know about libreoffice etc. but I just want something small that would create basic slides and save to the open document format. |
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| 06:52.36 | maroloccio | !nabq > handuel |
| 06:52.59 | maroloccio | sorry, wrong channel, wrong answer, wrong user! |
| 06:53.11 | handuel | maroloccia fine :D |
| 06:53.20 | maroloccio | handuel: tab-completion fail ;) |
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| 06:56.53 | drhouse123 | hi, using *run file instead of installing propreitary driver from repo is worst, i'm right? my friend don't understand it. How i can convince him ? give a explanation please |
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| 06:57.38 | handuel | drhouse123: the run file doesn't understand updates and won't rebuild itself into the kernel properly when you get a kernel or Xorg update. This renders your system unbootable |
| 06:58.15 | drhouse123 | handuel: something else? |
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| 07:01.01 | drhouse123 | handuel: i guess uninstalling it do not clean all files and it breaks symlinks |
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| 07:02.31 | handuel | drhouse123: Don't know. I never got round to uninstalling it because it broke my system when I updated |
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| 07:03.34 | handuel | drhouse123: I had to reinstall my OS |
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| 07:09.59 | drhouse123 | handuel: thanks for answers |
| 07:10.33 | handuel | drhouse123: It's fine. :) |
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| 07:35.08 | acu | OK, I have access to WAN through a wifi card (I run wheezy), however, I want that access to be like a router, so the computers in the LAN access internet through the CAT5 through the computer that has wifi |
| 07:38.47 | handuel | does the mplayer in the debian repos have dvdnav support? |
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| 07:41.02 | NetSecParano | acu: You can activate forwarding with "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and then play with iptables :-) |
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| 07:43.33 | saitax | hi, i have one question how ich can reinstall the initial config in /etc of a package |
| 07:44.23 | saitax | i deinstalled(purge) and reinstalled but the folder in /etc/ is not created |
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| 07:44.50 | saitax | is their a possibilty to create the initial config in /etc |
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| 07:45.26 | acu | NetSecParano: this forwarding is a type of proxy ? |
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| 07:49.04 | handuel | When starting mplayer to play a dvd I use mplayer /dev/sr0 How do I enable dvdnav? |
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| 07:51.04 | armin | anyone a hint how to start a user session that runs .xinitrc from lightdm? |
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| 07:57.41 | NetSecParano | acu: your debian will be able to act as a router |
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| 08:15.25 | Morsicus | Hi ! Do you think is possible to implement IPsec beetween a Cisco router with dynamic IP and Debian server with static ip ? |
| 08:15.54 | Morsicus | On the cisco part, is not a problem but how can i configured it on debian ? |
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| 08:19.03 | bhuddah | Morsicus: have you looked at the openswan documentation? |
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| 08:20.02 | MPer | Hello. Is there a way to use the aacraid driver in the installer? Or to be less specific, is there a way to install debian on a Adaptec 2610sa raid? |
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| 08:25.11 | Morsicus | bhuddah: A little bit why ? |
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| 08:26.38 | bhuddah | Morsicus: because that's where i would start.. i got openswan set up to have a cisco vpn client connect to it. so a server/server connection should work without mayor difficulties. |
| 08:26.41 | bhuddah | (i think) |
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| 08:29.04 | musca | !aacraid |
| 08:29.04 | dpkg | i heard aacraid is a percraid (adaptec base) often from <dell>. In the Linux kernel as of version 2.4.17. http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins#aacraid |
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| 08:35.28 | musca | MPer: did you see the link above ^ , it's not supported by debian-installer |
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| 08:35.59 | MPer | musca, yes, and read it before I can here. I hoped that there is a way anyone can suggest. |
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| 08:38.33 | musca | MPer: does this only mean you have to manually prepare the raid array before you install? |
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| 08:40.45 | MPer | musca, sorry? Did you mean that as a question? I am not familiar with the internals of the installer. But I doubt that I can do anything to get Debian to this box, besides installing it manually. |
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| 08:44.35 | jelly | MPer: if you know the pci-id of the particular model, you can look up kernel support |
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| 08:45.23 | jelly | judd: pciid 103c:323a |
| 08:45.24 | judd | [103c:323a] is 'Smart Array G6 controllers' from 'Hewlett-Packard Company' with kernel module 'hpsa' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=103c:323a http://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins |
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| 08:47.07 | MPer | jelly, I can do that, but what would I know more than by pulling the card out of the box and looking at it? It's just a plain 2610sa in a HP Proliant. |
| 08:47.49 | jelly | MPer: you would know whether it's supported (so presumably is going to work) or not |
| 08:48.15 | jelly | looking at the physical card doth not reveal the pciid |
| 08:48.55 | xcheng | anyone knows how i can get a listing of all xclients? |
| 08:49.05 | jelly | xcheng: xlsclients |
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| 08:49.16 | xcheng | nice! |
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| 08:50.35 | MPer | jelly, what I meant to ask is, would I get more information about the installer compatibility of a card when I know it's pciid? |
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| 08:50.53 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | hello again guys :D |
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| 08:51.13 | jelly | MPer: yes. |
| 08:52.44 | MPer | jelly, I see. So now I know it's using the aacraid module and that this module isn't supported by the installer. Which information would I gain when I know the pciid? |
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| 08:53.57 | jelly | MPer: minimum kernel version that supports it, and with that an option to try a development d-i image |
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| 08:54.30 | jelly | or just boot a livecd that works and use debootstrap |
| 08:55.19 | MPer | jelly, I think even the 2.6 kernel had aacraid in it. But booting from a live CD might be worth a try. |
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| 09:00.24 | jelly | MPer: existence of the driver does not guarantee that driver version supports your particular model; each driver looks up pci-ids of cards to determine whether it should take over control of the device or not |
| 09:01.02 | jelly | thus, you need the driver and the correct minimum version of said driver that supports _your_ card |
| 09:01.07 | MPer | jelly, yes, but I don't expect something fancy on this card. Just the plain old 2610sa. |
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| 09:04.21 | jelly | that sounds old, mentioned in bug reports from 2005 |
| 09:05.28 | jelly | MPer: and yet wheezy installer still fails at detecting disks or detecting the controller? Are you sure the logical devices presented by the controller are configured properly? |
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| 09:06.57 | jelly | does not have experience with it, but finds it highly unlikely that a current distro would fail at supporting the device |
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| 09:09.53 | MPer | jelly, the problem is that the installer doesn't support accraid devices. What I wonder is that, from what I heard, Ubuntu is installing fine on aacraid devices. |
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| 09:12.57 | jelly | MPer: well... what's the d-i failure mode? |
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| 09:14.18 | MPer | jelly, it just shows no drives |
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| 09:15.01 | jelly | MPer: does it load the module at all and can you see it recognizing the card in dmesg? |
| 09:15.28 | jelly | There's a shell on Alt-F3 console I think |
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| 09:22.04 | MPer | jelly, lsmod says aacraid is there, dmesg sees the card |
| 09:22.30 | MPer | jelly, and the pciid is 9005:0285 |
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| 09:22.52 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | another morning, another fresh debian installation |
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| 09:23.18 | MPer | jelly, but it seems that the card isn't reporting a disk to the installer |
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| 09:24.11 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | how do i use *.deb files? |
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| 09:24.45 | MPer | AlBaTrOs-NOOB, use? you mean use to install something? |
| 09:24.54 | gr33n7007h | AlBaTrOs-NOOB, dpkg -i <package.deb> |
| 09:25.08 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | oh so they are packages |
| 09:25.21 | ezra-s | AlBaTrOs-NOOB, first you must know what's inside them, they are installation packages |
| 09:25.28 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | is there by any change a pkg for minecraft? |
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| 09:27.13 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | i screwed somehow openvz yesterday and shut down my ssh connection to the vps =))))) |
| 09:28.04 | ezra-s | suspicious |
| 09:28.10 | MPer | AlBaTrOs-NOOB, that's what the googol-thingie brought up on first place: http://grahamedgecombe.com/projects/minecraft-installer |
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| 09:28.30 | babilen | (totally unsupported by us) |
| 09:28.42 | ezra-s | debian has "minetest" |
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| 09:33.15 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | i like the ideea that there is a pkg for minecraft server BUT it's outdated |
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| 09:36.46 | christinepea777 | after you add a ppa to your system via 'add-apt-reposity ppa:whatever' and do apt-get update, you should be able to do apt-get install whatever and it will get installed right? |
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| 09:41.31 | steff | f |
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| 09:48.48 | Iridos | dpkg, ppa |
| 09:48.49 | dpkg | [ppa] Personal Package Archive (see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas or <launchpad>). PPAs are either: (a) an easy way to grab packages based on nightly-builds/VCS snapshots or (b) an easy way for any idiot to publish a package of extremely poor quality (remember, you will run the maintainer scripts as root during install!). Choose your repos wisely. No equivalent exists for Debian yet. Ask me about <why not use a ppa>. |
| 09:48.57 | Iridos | dpkg, why not use a ppa |
| 09:48.57 | dpkg | PPAs (Ubuntu's Personal Package Archives, see <PPA>) are not built against Debian releases, they are built against Ubuntu releases. This makes using packages from them on a Debian box highly unlikely to work out well. Ask me about <ssb> <package recompile> <bobbitt>. |
| 09:49.19 | Iridos | oh, too late |
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| 09:51.33 | g105b | How do I echo something into a file as root? `sudo echo "test" > test.txt` is owned by my user, rather than root. |
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| 09:52.04 | ksk | dont use "`" as a quote :> |
| 09:52.10 | ksk | and that happens because of "subshell" |
| 09:52.27 | ksk | there is an easy way around that, just forgot it |
| 09:52.36 | ksk | did you try google that? |
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| 09:56.35 | Iridos | no, it did not |
| 09:57.14 | Iridos | ksk, no, it did not |
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| 09:57.34 | Iridos | g105b, it's actually in the bashfaq from #bash in here |
| 09:58.07 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | where is the sources list again pls?:D |
| 09:58.08 | Iridos | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ |
| 09:58.49 | Iridos | g105b, but I'm too lazy to look it up. It's because the ">" is interpreted by your current shell, not by the command and only the command is run as root |
| 09:59.18 | Iridos | g105b, simplest... just use sudo vi test.txt |
| 09:59.37 | Iridos | or use sudo su, then do the echo |
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| 10:00.34 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | babilien, can you please paste me the sources.list you have? |
| 10:01.05 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | babilen |
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| 10:05.20 | ksk | !tell AlBaTrOs-NOOB about sources.list |
| 10:05.29 | ksk | AlBaTrOs-NOOB: there are many sources that describe what to put in there |
| 10:05.53 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | babilen gave me a great sources list two days ago |
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| 10:09.48 | Iridos | then why didn't you save it somewhere? |
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| 10:11.22 | hans_henrik | asdf |
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| 10:13.24 | Iridos | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:14.13 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | link is not working |
| 10:14.16 | Iridos | <babilen> AlBaTrOs-NOOB: I would also recommend reading http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html (and really the entire book) |
| 10:14.22 | Iridos | yes, it's expired |
| 10:15.31 | Iridos | pastebins aren't forever |
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| 10:16.30 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | can you re-paste it? |
| 10:17.05 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | will that handbook still be usefull if it's for debian 6 and i'm on debian 7? |
| 10:17.21 | Iridos | how could I re-paste it? I don't know what was in it |
| 10:17.27 | babilen | AlBaTrOs-NOOB: Yes, I can repaste it, but will you download it this time? |
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| 10:18.07 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | i must, i'm lossing the stuff on the vps faster than you paste it :)) |
| 10:18.13 | babilen | AlBaTrOs-NOOB: http://paste.debian.net/32232/ (note that you might or might not want to keep wheezy-backports in there, it's fine to leave it in as you have to install packages explicitly) |
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| 10:18.20 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | i'll keep it on a memory stick just to be safe |
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| 10:20.30 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | what's wrong about those wheezy-backports? |
| 10:21.21 | babilen | Nothing is wrong about them, but you might not want to have them available. IMHO it is perfectly fine to have them available if you ever want to install packages from there. |
| 10:21.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell AlBaTrOs-NOOB about backports |
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| 10:22.15 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | oh, i get it |
| 10:22.30 | babilen | AlBaTrOs-NOOB: And why don't you do us and yourself a favour and invest £5-10 a month into a reasonable hoster? ;) |
| 10:22.53 | Iridos | but... that's monthly expenses! |
| 10:23.17 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | cause this one is free :)) i just pay the ip monthly |
| 10:23.52 | babilen | AlBaTrOs-NOOB: Well, it is obviously not free as both the Debian community and yourself have to invest time and effort into it ;) |
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| 10:24.42 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | i'd better invest time than money |
| 10:24.50 | ezra-s | time=money |
| 10:25.09 | ezra-s | not identical, but one ends up in the other |
| 10:25.10 | tralala | only when you are able to convert it |
| 10:25.33 | ezra-s | tralala, that applies to anything valuable too |
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| 10:26.35 | tralala | true |
| 10:26.45 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | ezra-s, wright on that one but i'm on my work vacation so time!=money |
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| 10:27.24 | tralala | however my point was that in the context of the conversation time doesn't have to be money |
| 10:27.51 | babilen | Sorry, I really didn't mean to start a discussion about the equality of time and money - but you are all welcome to join us in #debian-offtopic for a continuation (or other social chat) |
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| 10:28.25 | ezra-s | hehe |
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| 10:33.14 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | gotta go for abou 30 min |
| 10:33.17 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | later |
| 10:34.30 | Gekqua | Hello all. On Debian download pages like http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/amd64/iso-dvd/, it provides multiple installation DVDs, all of the same version |
| 10:35.01 | Gekqua | What is the difference, which one should I pick? |
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| 10:36.01 | gnarface | Gekqua: you only need the first one to install, but those are for people who don't have network connected computers. you should use one of these instead: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 10:36.59 | musca | !tell Gekqua about various cd1 |
| 10:37.05 | Gekqua | What are the others for? I tried downloading 3 (in case it was the newest or something) and my laptop did not boot, but that is probably an issue with my CD drive. |
| 10:37.25 | gnarface | Gekqua: its is literally all of debian on a dvd set. you don't actually need that |
| 10:37.35 | Gekqua | Ok |
| 10:37.49 | Gekqua | Thank you, I'll get the netinstall now |
| 10:37.56 | gnarface | good luck |
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| 10:44.35 | babilen | Gekqua: Do you have a working internet connection during the installation? Do you know which desktop environment you want? (Gnome, KDE, ...) |
| 10:44.52 | babilen | dpkg: tell Gekqua -about firmware image |
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| 10:46.36 | Gekqua | babilen: I'm using Wi-fi and if my networking card doesn't give me any issues this time I should have a working connection. And yes, I do know what DE I want, KDE. |
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| 10:47.49 | jelly | MPer: I'd assume the controller wasn't configured properly to export the logical drive to OS or BIOS |
| 10:48.08 | MPer | jelly, yes, I think you are right |
| 10:48.46 | jelly | so the question becomes "how to install and use the proprietary configuration tools from a livecd" |
| 10:49.12 | jelly | MPer: perhaps it can be configured from card's BIOS? |
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| 10:50.01 | babilen | Gekqua: Okay, a lot of wireless adaptors require firmware and I would therefore recommend to use the netinstall image *with* firmware for the installation. (it might still ask you to provide firmware, but just continue at that point) |
| 10:50.03 | Gekqua | babilen: Should I download the version with non-free firmware only if I am having problems with the free version, or does it have any advantages? |
| 10:50.04 | babilen | dpkg: tell Gekqua -about install kde |
| 10:50.13 | MPer | jelly, I will have to look into that, but I can access the card's bios |
| 10:50.53 | babilen | Gekqua: Which wireless adaptor do you have? If you are on a *nix system could you show me the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" ? |
| 10:51.13 | Gekqua | I'll check, one sec. |
| 10:53.10 | babilen | Gekqua: But in either case: Using the non-free image is fine even if you don't require firmware. |
| 10:53.15 | Gekqua | Network controller [0200]: Qualcomm Atherose AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter [168c:0034] (rev 01) |
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| 10:56.11 | Gekqua | I'd prefer not to use non-free firmware if possible, as long as it doesn't negatively impact performance or stability. Where can I get more information on exactly what differences there are between the free and non-free versions? |
| 10:56.54 | babilen | Gekqua: Ah, that is great and shouldn't require firmware. Other components might however (e.g. GPU (radeon is a prime example), NIC (realtek), ...). Also make sure to install the microcode package for your CPU after the installation to ensure that your CPU is working bug free |
| 10:57.01 | babilen | dpkg: microcode |
| 10:57.02 | dpkg | Microcode are instructions/structures for implementing high-level machine code within processors. The Linux kernel can load updated microcode on most x86 processors. Microcode patches for Intel and AMD64 CPUs are packaged for Debian as intel-microcode and amd64-microcode respectively; installing the relevant package is recommended to ensure system stability. Ask me about <non-free sources>. http://wiki.debian.org/Microcode |
| 10:58.58 | babilen | Gekqua: The non-free image simply contains the firmware packages that are contained in http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current/ - firmware is required by your hardware to function properly and there really isn't a reason to *not* install it (unless you don't care that your hardware is not working properly or to its fullest potential) -- Mind that I do *not* want to advocate using non-free software, but ... |
| 10:58.59 | Gekqua | babilen: I'm have Nvidia, not AMD (although it's a laptop so I'll probably be using the Intel GPU). As for microcode, I don't usually install that because of the recent PRISM issue, I don't trust encrypted "updates" to my processor that could insert any kind of hardware backdoor. |
| 10:59.04 | babilen | ... firmware (and microcode) are a bit different and an unfortunate reality these days. |
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| 11:00.11 | Gekqua | >or to its fullest potential |
| 11:00.16 | Gekqua | And that's all I'm worried about. |
| 11:00.50 | babilen | Gekqua: Well, it is up to you but your processor *already* uses microcode and firmware upgrades to your mainboard contain newer microcode versions as well. The microcode updates also fix various bugs that could render your platform unreliable, but check for yourself and decide: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=users/hmh/intel-microcode.git;a=blob;f=debian/changelog |
| 11:00.59 | Gekqua | If vital hardware just *won't* run, then I could just download the non-free version and try again, but if it all installs and works with the free version, but I might be missing out on a big boost in performance, then I wouldn't want that. |
| 11:02.36 | Gekqua | https://wiki.debian.org/Microcode gives 403 forbidden :/ |
| 11:02.50 | ksk | no it does not |
| 11:02.57 | ksk | maybe it does not like you |
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| 11:03.34 | vedranm | babilen: is there a similar changelog for AMD Microcode updates? |
| 11:03.36 | babilen | Gekqua: Okay, I understand - In that case feel free to use the image without firmware and see how far you get. Your wireless adaptor does not require firmware (it is a good one and I am happy to see it) and the rest of your hardware might work flawlessly. Microcode for your processor OTOH is a different beast, but I leave the decision to you. Please realise that your processor *already* uses microcode (simply an older version) already, but that ... |
| 11:03.42 | babilen | ... doesn't change your preceived threat of "NSA updates" (if that's real or not is beyond the scope of this channel) |
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| 11:05.13 | babilen | vedranm: Sure, the package is amd64-microcode and you can find its QA page on: http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/amd64-microcode.html -- click on "browse" in "VCS: Git (browse)" and then "tree" → debian → changelog |
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| 11:06.26 | babilen | vedranm: You should also be able to see it by running "aptitude changelog amd64-microcode" or read it offline with, say, "less /usr/share/doc/amd64-microcode/changelog.Debian*" if you have it installed already. |
| 11:06.52 | babilen | Gekqua: I can open that page just fine |
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| 11:07.03 | Gekqua | babilen: For the tin foil hattery, I'm only going by thinks like http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/32097-expert-claims-nsa-has-backdoors-in-intel-amd-processors . For the rest, as long as any open source firmware problems "fail noisily and as soon as possible" then I'm OK with using the non-free version. |
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| 11:09.00 | Gekqua | Odd, I can't view the Debian wiki on my normal VPN, but when I go to Hidemyass proxy it loads just fine without the 403 error. |
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| 11:09.33 | babilen | Gekqua: microcode issues don't fail noisily or easily detectable, but cause "interesting" bugs here and there that are *very* hard to debug. It is horrible that we have to accept binary blobs like that in our hardware, but there is unfortunately very little we can do *iff* we want to use that hardware. (not using it is always an option) -- I just don't understand the difference between "no microcode on a chip on my mainboard is okay, but OMG if ... |
| 11:09.39 | babilen | ... it is loaded during runtime from disk" |
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| 11:09.53 | babilen | vedranm: Found it? |
| 11:10.36 | Gekqua | I can always install the microcode later if I have to, even if I have the free installation CD, right? |
| 11:10.54 | babilen | sure |
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| 11:12.00 | babilen | You can easily install all those firmware packages later and we simply provide images *with* firmware as some people wouldn't be able to install without it. (or can't use it e.g. radeon GPU) |
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| 11:12.35 | Gekqua | So then, if I use the free version I may be stuck with a bunch of firmware that works, but unknown to me it might not work optimally. Or I could install the non-free version, but then I might be using a bunch of unnecessary non-free firmware where open source versions might work just as well. |
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| 11:14.40 | kode101 | can anybody help me install this on debian 6 |
| 11:14.41 | kode101 | http://slowmovideo.granjow.net/builds.php |
| 11:14.51 | kode101 | which version to select, getting dependencies etc |
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| 11:18.45 | avij | hi, have you guys considered getting a valid SSL certificate for security-tracker.debian.org ? |
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| 11:23.30 | ksk | you will have no problem surfing it using debian ;) |
| 11:24.09 | jelly | ksk: that's a bit of catch-22 |
| 11:24.13 | jerryzhou | when i do apt-get autoremove i del lots of package |
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| 11:24.41 | jerryzhou | can i installed debian 7.0.1 cd iso and is there a xfce in? |
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| 11:25.48 | musca | !tell jerryzhou about various cd1 |
| 11:26.29 | avij | ksk: I don't have a Debian system handy, but if you do 'openssl s_client -connect security-tracker.debian.org:443', does it report that the certificate is ok? |
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| 11:27.11 | eblip | when you have a pre-partitioned drive with - root-boot-var-swap-home. and free space. which drive does the debian installer put the other files it creates eg.... -etc -usr... |
| 11:27.15 | ksk | i get some "Verify return code: 19 (self signed certificate in certificate chain)" error |
| 11:27.18 | eblip | are they put on the root drive |
| 11:27.27 | ksk | chromium does not mention that though |
| 11:27.32 | eblip | or does it start to use the free space |
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| 11:28.02 | avij | ksk: that's what I meant with getting a proper certificate ... not really my problem, though. |
| 11:28.40 | avij | eblip: root |
| 11:28.50 | eblip | thanks avij...thanks a lot |
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| 11:33.58 | handuel | Is there a command to launch the debian graphical installer? |
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| 11:38.24 | babilen | Gekqua: The installer on both images is exactly the same. The only difference is that the non-free images contain the firmware packages that I linked earlier in a setup that is comparable to what is discussed in "/msg dpkg installer firmware" |
| 11:38.46 | babilen | Gekqua: There is no "non-free" edition or "free" edition of Debian that differs after the installation. |
| 11:40.08 | Gekqua | babilen: Oh Ok, so non-free is only *additional* software, not free versions replaced with non-free? |
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| 11:41.18 | babilen | Gekqua: No, I said it before and I will say it again: The non-free image differs from the free image simply by including the firmware packages that you can download independently from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current/ |
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| 11:42.42 | paulk-collins | hi |
| 11:42.53 | paulk-collins | I'm installing debian wheezy on an armel plug computer (dreamplug) |
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| 11:42.59 | handuel | Is there a way of manually installing debian? I have created a copy of my install with remastersys and want to be able to install it when I boot it. (At the moment it boots to command line) |
| 11:43.02 | Gekqua | babilen: Yeah, that's what I said... |
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| 11:43.11 | paulk-collins | However it seems to be hanging on "Installed u-boot-tools" (I'm using the debian installer) |
| 11:43.19 | babilen | Gekqua: Debian ships only free (according to the DFSG) software in its main archive and non-free software in, well, non-free. Software that is itself free but depends on non-free software is in contrib. The installer images are all identical and simply differ in the selection of packages they contain (that don't have to be downloaded during the installation), the non-free image simply contains some commonly used firmware packages. |
| 11:43.25 | paulk-collins | is it supposed to be a long step or is it blocked? |
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| 11:43.58 | handuel | paulk-collins: how long u been w8ing 4? |
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| 11:45.05 | handuel | paulk-collins: Sorry: How long have you been waiting for* (Forgot this wasn't facebook...) |
| 11:45.10 | handuel | blushes |
| 11:46.44 | paulk-collins | lol |
| 11:46.50 | paulk-collins | handuel, more like ten minutes now |
| 11:46.52 | babilen | Gekqua: And yeah, the "No, " should have been "Yes, " ;) |
| 11:47.12 | paulk-collins | is there any way to get a shell on the installer? |
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| 11:49.11 | handuel | paulk-collins: Ahh could be a hang... all the times I've installed it's never stopped 4 that long |
| 11:49.42 | paulk-collins | mhh |
| 11:49.45 | paulk-collins | any way to debug? |
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| 11:50.51 | paulk-collins | bbl I'll eat |
| 11:50.58 | paulk-collins | I hope it'll have moved forward when I'm back |
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| 12:06.25 | handuel | exit |
| 12:06.29 | handuel | fail |
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| 12:24.01 | handuel | With sed can I delete everything apart from the first word of every line? |
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| 12:25.13 | Stygia | Hey, does anyone here know a way to read manpages from a shell without installing the package first? |
| 12:25.15 | Stygia | Debian testing. |
| 12:25.24 | Stygia | Well... testing, I'd hope debian was implicit. :P |
| 12:25.28 | daemonkeeper | manpages.debian.net |
| 12:26.14 | Stygia | daemonkeeper, Yea I know a way to do it via by browser, I was hoping there'd be a way to do it via commandline. |
| 12:26.48 | james41382 | Stygia: Lynx |
| 12:26.58 | daemonkeeper | alias offlineman="links -dump"; offlineman 'http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bash&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+7.0+wheezy&format=ascii&locale=en' |
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| 12:27.27 | Stygia | daemon, But this would mean I'd have to know the URL each time, yea? |
| 12:27.43 | Stygia | daemonkeeper, meant for you, sorry. |
| 12:27.45 | mumpitzel | Stygia: less <file>. the manpages are pretty much human readable |
| 12:28.04 | Stygia | mumpitzel, Yea but again, wouldn't that mean I'd have to install the package? |
| 12:28.11 | daemonkeeper | Yes. |
| 12:28.17 | daemonkeeper | Stygia: Of course. Or just use the browser inline :) |
| 12:28.22 | jhutchins | Stygia: Nope. |
| 12:28.35 | Stygia | jhutchins, No? I'd have to manually download the manpage, though, yea? |
| 12:28.45 | daemonkeeper | Not a big win either. |
| 12:28.48 | jhutchins | Stygia: As far as I know there's no installable archive of manpages. |
| 12:28.50 | Stygia | Ideally I"d want a way to be able to read manpages for any package in the repo without installing it. |
| 12:28.58 | Stygia | jhutchins, Which is also an acceptable answer. :) |
| 12:29.01 | Stygia | I'll just have to write one. |
| 12:29.05 | mumpitzel | Stygia: the "more" program or cat are always available. never need to install anything but base debian |
| 12:29.15 | jhutchins | Stygia: Remember there are some 30,000 packages in debian. Assuming at least one manpage per package, that's a lot. |
| 12:29.18 | Stygia | mumpitzel, Well yea... but then I'd have to manually tamper with the manpages. |
| 12:29.34 | Stygia | jhutchins, Ideally I'd read it to you from manpages.debian.org or something. |
| 12:29.37 | jhutchins | mumpitzel: The issue is whether the manpages for uninstalled packages are available locally, they're not. |
| 12:29.40 | Stygia | But if it doesn't exist, hey, it doesn't exist. |
| 12:29.56 | mumpitzel | jhutchins: there are some manpage packages, but they are very much exception not the rule |
| 12:30.07 | jhutchins | Stygia: You could find one of the on-line collections and download/mirror it. |
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| 12:30.28 | Stygia | jhutchins, Hmm yea I suppose. |
| 12:30.37 | daemonkeeper | Since there are about 8173187313 on-line manpage archives, I'm sure such a tool exists already. |
| 12:30.54 | Stygia | jhutchins, I'll probably just write a script to do it for me, though. |
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| 12:31.01 | Stygia | Keeping them locally doesn't seem desirable. |
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| 12:37.08 | Stygia | For now, I'm using DuckDuckGo for a search engine anyway, so I can just type !dman program to read the manpage in my browser. |
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| 12:39.14 | cane | Hi guys, I have a problem with my Ubuntu 13.04 distribution, I cannot install ANY type of software/package anymore, I uninstalled apache2 & xplico a few days ago, now when I try to install any package, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6043991/ |
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| 12:40.45 | babilen | dpkg: ubuntuirc cane |
| 12:40.45 | dpkg | cane: This is not the Ubuntu help channel. Please do /server chat.freenode.net and then /join #ubuntu. If you are using XChat, you can right-click the following link and choose connect. irc://chat.freenode.net/ubuntu |
| 12:40.58 | cane | can you just help me out |
| 12:41.00 | cane | this is a dpkg problem |
| 12:41.33 | babilen | cane: No, we quite intentionally only support Debian and Debian users in here for a number of technical and social reasons. You are free to install and run Debian if you want our support. |
| 12:41.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell cane -about install debian |
| 12:41.49 | cane | what if I said I used Debian, babilen? |
| 12:42.09 | babilen | cane: Well, you don't so lets not make this overly complicated okay? |
| 12:42.17 | jelly | cane: unfortunately this is not a dpkg channel, and errors in packaging like that really can't be addressed by anyone except the package providers ie. your distro |
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| 12:42.38 | jelly | (that's a technical reason) |
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| 12:43.14 | kode101 | is there a good general purpose audio editor like audacity that is cli friendly |
| 12:44.29 | jelly | cane: you may ask ##linux for help with dpkg, as there's a good number of dpkg-based distro users there |
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| 12:48.04 | tvm | kode101: depends, what functionality you need exactly ? |
| 12:48.48 | kode101 | I want to stretch audio between 1 and 10 times its usual length but retain the pitch |
| 12:49.03 | kode101 | programs like ableton live have very high quality algorithims for this |
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| 12:49.19 | jelly | does ableton live have a CLI? |
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| 12:50.46 | kode101 | i'm afraid not, and not even a linux distro |
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| 12:50.58 | kode101 | my point is that such stretching is possible |
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| 12:52.58 | cusco | kode101: for cli: sox |
| 12:53.05 | tvm | cusco: nod |
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| 12:53.10 | jelly | kode101: the author of zynaddsubfx typically licenses his stuff under GPL, check http://hypermammut.sourceforge.net/paulstretch/ out |
| 12:53.18 | codepython777 | what is a good program to install so that i can avoid root kits? Network attacks? |
| 12:53.45 | cusco | rkhunter |
| 12:54.01 | jelly | kode101: even if it's not in debian and has a GUI by default, being free software means you can replace the UI |
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| 12:54.09 | kode101 | :) |
| 12:54.11 | kode101 | thanks jelly |
| 12:54.15 | kode101 | free software rules obvi |
| 12:54.16 | mumpitzel | codepython777: brain 1.0. there is no magic software |
| 12:54.21 | codepython777 | cusco: thanks |
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| 12:55.06 | Mansoor | hi |
| 12:55.18 | jelly | codepython777: security is more a set of best practices and a continuous process of applying them and adapting that installing a single tool or three. |
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| 12:55.38 | tvm | codepython777: also chkrootkit, for the networking what jelly said |
| 12:55.40 | codepython777 | jelly: Is there a good read somewhere ? |
| 12:55.42 | Mansoor | i just changed my debian vps password & now i cant login to my server anymore |
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| 12:56.25 | tvm | codepython777: for the reading, not really, all security falls down with the weakest link |
| 12:56.49 | cusco | Mansoor: ask the vps provider some help |
| 12:57.05 | tvm | codepython777: if you ran apache with exploitable php/sql code, it can be exploited no matter what |
| 12:57.12 | mumpitzel | !harden |
| 12:57.12 | dpkg | To secure and harden a Debian GNU/Linux system, ask me about <securing debian> and <security>. See also <security backports>, <tracker of doom>, <d:sbd>, <grsecurity>, <exec shield>. |
| 12:57.14 | codepython777 | tvm: I dont run apache |
| 12:57.21 | tvm | codepython777: that was just example |
| 12:57.38 | codepython777 | tvm: Ijust run a ssh server, but i hope i blocked everything else. It would be nice if there was a tool, that at least scanned the obvious problems and told me |
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| 12:57.55 | Mansoor | sadly they say, haveto do OS reload which does a complete erasing & reinstalling OS procedure & i need my information on server |
| 12:58.02 | jelly | codepython777: to get a background? http://www.schneier.com/book-beyondfear.html |
| 12:58.02 | tvm | codepython777: well, you have your generic portscanner, nmap |
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| 12:58.41 | jelly | (the book isn't just about computers) |
| 12:58.42 | codepython777 | jelly: ?? How does that mumbo-jumbo help? |
| 12:58.43 | jhutchins | codepython777: The only "open" ports on a linux system are the ones for servers you have installed/configured/run. |
| 12:58.44 | abrotman | tvm: that's not much good for actual vulns |
| 12:59.03 | abrotman | tvm: one would assume those ports are listening because you need those services exposed |
| 12:59.11 | jhutchins | There's whatever satan calls itself these days. |
| 12:59.24 | abrotman | nessus? |
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| 12:59.35 | jhutchins | I thought nessus was monitoring. |
| 12:59.35 | jelly | codepython777: it puts you in the right mindset to be able to understand and evalute risks in a sane manner |
| 12:59.36 | tvm | abrotman: yeah, that's just the beginning, we ain't having a pentest discussion here yet |
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| 12:59.53 | abrotman | with him, you won't |
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| 13:00.02 | jelly | I won't tell you "go install grsecurity and you'll be safe" |
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| 13:00.30 | jhutchins | Full selinux lockdown! |
| 13:00.49 | tvm | with disconnected network interfaces, yes. |
| 13:00.50 | tvm | :D |
| 13:01.02 | codepython777 | :) - I wish :) |
| 13:01.10 | abrotman | pfft, bastille FTW |
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| 13:13.33 | jhutchins | http://www.cotse.com/tools/vuln.htm - satan appears to have become saint, nessus is vulnerability scanning not monitoring. |
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| 13:14.24 | martin-_- | hi, I go this error message and stackoverflow http://serverfault.com/questions/383582/xen-nonetype-object-has-no-attribute-rfind-error-when-trying-to-create-d says i should install apt-get install xen-qemu-dm-4.0 but there is no package provided for debian sid |
| 13:16.03 | abrotman | jhutchins: santa/saint/satan is largely dead... nessus is the heir apparent? |
| 13:16.31 | abrotman | or last i knew largely dead .. |
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| 13:18.34 | oo_miguel | something bad happeed to my server |
| 13:18.42 | oo_miguel | file read/write seems very slow on times |
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| 13:18.58 | oo_miguel | where should I Start to analyze the cause? any suggestions? |
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| 13:19.22 | bhuddah | hdd |
| 13:20.06 | abrotman | looks at bhuddah |
| 13:20.31 | abrotman | oo_miguel: look for errors in syslog/messages. Check for failed drives if using RAID. |
| 13:21.15 | abrotman | oo_miguel: you can use iotop to see if something is hogging the drive |
| 13:21.54 | olblak | oo_miguel: you can use iotop to watch your I/O |
| 13:22.00 | oo_miguel | ok thanks |
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| 13:31.08 | ddssc | anyone knows a gui for puttygen? |
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| 13:35.09 | oo_miguel | dmesg gives me things like this :( http://pastebin.ca/2440900 |
| 13:35.55 | ChrisH | oo_miguel: media error <-- looks like a failed or failing disk. Time to check the backup |
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| 13:36.16 | ChrisH | sdb is affected |
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| 13:37.32 | abrotman | oo_miguel: make a backup, get a new disk |
| 13:37.58 | oo_miguel | just making backups.. |
| 13:38.09 | abrotman | oo_miguel: your dying disk is causing processes to hang/dump |
| 13:38.37 | ChrisH | oo_miguel: expect data loss, some blocks are no longer readable. |
| 13:38.43 | abrotman | oo_miguel: note, it could also be a bad cable or motherboard .. you can't tell, just that communication is failing |
| 13:39.04 | oo_miguel | ok, but its obviously a hardware error |
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| 13:39.25 | ChrisH | abrotman: [sdb] Add. Sense: Unrecovered read error - auto reallocate failed <-- does not sound like a bad cable |
| 13:39.28 | oo_miguel | and since I do not have physical access to that computer the privder will have to fix/exchange it |
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| 13:40.38 | r1sc | hello all |
| 13:41.17 | r1sc | i'm a fairly intermediate linux user |
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| 13:41.39 | r1sc | i'm wondering if Debian testing will teach me more about linux? |
| 13:41.57 | ChrisH | r1sc: more than what? |
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| 13:42.21 | r1sc | more about internal workings of linux |
| 13:42.39 | r1sc | configuration files etc... |
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| 13:42.53 | r1sc | so i know my way around if i get job as a linux sysadmin |
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| 13:44.20 | mumpitzel | all that testing will teach you is how to fix debian package dependency problems |
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| 13:46.00 | r1sc | i mentionted testing because of newer software versions...but im asking generally for Debian |
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| 13:47.59 | r1sc | ok thanks... |
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| 13:49.13 | JIV | hi, i got: -bash: ./java: No such file or directory |
| 13:49.40 | JIV | but: ls -la prints -rwxr-xr-x 1 cubie cubie 5754 Apr 4 13:08 java |
| 13:49.48 | JIV | any idea? |
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| 13:52.25 | jelly | JIV: 1) which debian release is this 2) is the filesystem where that file is stored mounted with exec option (check /proc/mounts) 3) what does "file java" say? |
| 13:52.55 | JIV | its cubian - debian for arm |
| 13:52.58 | JIV | Linux Cubian 3.4.43.sun7i+ |
| 13:53.02 | jelly | JIV: also, 4) what do "dpkg --print-architecture" and "ldd java" say? |
| 13:53.15 | JIV | cubie@Cubian:~/jdk1.7.0_21/bin$ file java |
| 13:53.15 | JIV | java: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.14, not stripped |
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| 13:53.31 | JIV | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.31 | dpkg | neo-classical |
| 13:53.31 | JIV | armhf |
| 13:53.46 | JIV | ldd java not a dynamic executable |
| 13:54.57 | jelly | JIV: the difference between "file java" and "ldd java" means that binary is built for a different architecture, not what debian calls "armhf" |
| 13:55.24 | JIV | yes this is java Softfloat |
| 13:55.29 | JIV | it wont work on hardfloat? |
| 13:55.37 | jelly | JIV: that's right |
| 13:55.40 | JIV | ok thx |
| 13:56.11 | jelly | JIV: what does "lsb_release -sc" say? |
| 13:56.49 | JIV | need root? |
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| 13:56.53 | jelly | no |
| 13:57.00 | JIV | lsb_release: command not found |
| 13:57.05 | JIV | what it do/. |
| 13:57.51 | jelly | JIV: install lsb-release package, I'm trying to figure out whether your distro is debian at all or not |
| 13:58.04 | JIV | E: Unable to locate package lsb_release |
| 13:58.24 | jelly | JIV: not _ but -, lsb-release is the package name |
| 13:58.37 | JIV | ok |
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| 14:00.03 | JIV | cubie@Cubian:~$ lsb_release -sc |
| 14:00.03 | JIV | wheezy |
| 14:00.14 | jelly | ok, so let's say that's debian userspace |
| 14:00.44 | JIV | i guess thats good |
| 14:00.58 | jelly | JIV: you MAY be able to run armel binaries by enabling "armel" as a foreign architecture using multiarch |
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| 14:01.11 | jelly | multiarch howto |
| 14:01.15 | jelly | !multiarch howto |
| 14:01.15 | dpkg | hmm... multiarch howto is http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
| 14:02.14 | jelly | JIV: after enabling it and apt-get update, install libc6:armel and see what "ldd java" says then |
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| 14:02.42 | JIV | it will dowload all libs for other archs too? im little low on space |
| 14:02.49 | cane | !multiarch howto > dpkg |
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| 14:03.30 | jelly | cane: if you want to talk to the bot in private, you can /msg dpkg multiarch howto |
| 14:04.00 | jelly | JIV: apt will install what you tell it to install, not "all libs" |
| 14:04.04 | cane | jelly: is debian a eyecandyish distro? |
| 14:04.17 | jelly | cane: I wouldn't say so. |
| 14:04.26 | cane | oh. |
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| 14:08.01 | JIV | jelly: its working :) |
| 14:08.16 | JIV | cubie@Cubian:~/jdk1.7.0_21/bin$ ldd java |
| 14:08.16 | JIV | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.16 | JIV | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.20 | JIV | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.22 | JIV | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.25 | JIV | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.27 | JIV | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:08.29 | jelly | ... |
| 14:08.31 | jelly | !paste |
| 14:08.31 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 14:08.43 | JIV | it was accident sry |
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| 14:09.08 | jelly | JIV: yay, you now have a multiarch armhf/armel system. Good luck. |
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| 14:09.41 | jhutchins | Wonder why the bot didn't get him. |
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| 14:10.31 | jelly | JIV: I kind of wonder how the JVM is going to work on a 1GB thing like a cubieboard |
| 14:10.51 | JIV | its pretty good |
| 14:10.58 | JIV | i wroite some test |
| 14:11.22 | JIV | 1600 score on A20 vs. 360 score on i5-4670k |
| 14:12.01 | JIV | tested with jdk8 preview with arm hardfloat |
| 14:12.18 | jelly | "it takes this many seconds to count to a zillion" |
| 14:13.14 | JIV | well it was floatpoint test, so this is why i want jdk7 - test with softfloat |
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| 14:14.43 | JIV | ls |
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| 14:23.08 | jelly | JIV: tried openjdk-7-jdk armhf from the distro? |
| 14:23.33 | jelly | ,v openjdk-7-jdk --arch armhf |
| 14:23.34 | judd | Package: openjdk-7-jdk on armhf -- wheezy: 7u3-2.1.7-1; jessie: 7u21-2.3.9-5; sid: 7u25-2.3.12-4 |
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| 14:23.44 | JIV | jelly: dont want openjdk :) |
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| 14:24.03 | jelly | if it works... |
| 14:24.20 | JIV | i believe it do, but i wanted check with soffloat |
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| 14:26.08 | BotaWork | Hi, i have virtualbox hosted debian that only offers 4:3 resolutions. Using xrandr i force him to display 16:9 but it doesnt survive reboot, how can i save forced settings ? |
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| 14:27.00 | salvik | i reinstalled gdk+, glib and after reboot i cant startx and apt-get exit with error 127 - problem is in file libgio-2.0.so.0 ..... can anybody please help me? |
| 14:27.11 | JIV | jelly: 2247 on softfloat and 2247 on hardfloat :) |
| 14:27.23 | JIV | jelly: 1637* hf |
| 14:28.24 | salvik | please can anybody help me? |
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| 14:29.01 | handuel | salvik: how did you reinstall glib? |
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| 14:30.44 | handuel | salvik: try running dpkg-reconfigure -a |
| 14:30.55 | handuel | salvik: post output to pastebin and reply with link here |
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| 14:33.42 | salvik | handuel: update-mime-database.real: symbol lookup error: update-mime-database.real: undefined symbol: g_log_set_default_handler |
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| 14:34.04 | PhoenixSTF | hey guys, how can I install debian from live cd cmd line? |
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| 14:34.58 | gnarface | PhoenixSTF: good question, but a better question is why would you want to? |
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| 14:35.31 | PhoenixSTF | gnarface, because i have it in and iso inside a pen, and netinstall will put out the CD-rom not found error |
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| 14:36.01 | PhoenixSTF | better yet, is there any way i can avoid the cd-rom not found on a multiboot pen iso? |
| 14:36.08 | PhoenixSTF | or workaround |
| 14:36.33 | PhoenixSTF | maybe grub the correct grub menu config |
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| 14:38.49 | jhutchins | PhoenixSTF: If you use the correct image and create the boot device correctly it will not ask for the CD. |
| 14:39.01 | jhutchins | PhoenixSTF: Did you use unetbootin? |
| 14:39.09 | PhoenixSTF | not |
| 14:39.16 | PhoenixSTF | standart Grub2 |
| 14:39.19 | salvik | handuel: when i try dpkg-reconfigure -a : update-mime-database.real: symbol lookup error: update-mime-database.real: undefined symbol: g_log_set_default_handler |
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| 14:40.12 | PhoenixSTF | loopback loop0 /boot/iso/debian-7.1.0-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 14:40.12 | PhoenixSTF | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.12 | PhoenixSTF | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:40.15 | cardiel | someone using nsd3 as nameserver and can help me? my A records wont show up when i test it with dig.. is this a common problem with nsd? |
| 14:40.19 | PhoenixSTF | this is what i have on grub |
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| 14:42.31 | gnarface | PhoenixSTF: try netinstall in expert mode, is my suggestion |
| 14:42.39 | gnarface | PhoenixSTF: it will ask better questions |
| 14:42.44 | PhoenixSTF | I did, same result |
| 14:43.00 | gnarface | PhoenixSTF: you don't want to install the live version, because that is just a live install |
| 14:43.05 | PhoenixSTF | botting debian netinstall from ISO has been really dificult |
| 14:43.09 | Deeps | cardiel: I've used nsd3, and had nothing but pain. Switched back to bind9 - less secure code, sure, but substantially more functional |
| 14:43.31 | gnarface | PhoenixSTF: you still want a real install, so the third option you could try would be this: debootstrap from the live install into a chroot |
| 14:43.47 | jhutchins | salvik: try aptitude -f install - which release are you using? |
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| 14:45.32 | gnarface | PhoenixSTF: i'm sure that install icon on the desktop of the live install is some script somewhere that you can run, but i promise you that is not what you want |
| 14:45.35 | PhoenixSTF | gnarface, though of that, but not very usefull, I will have to use dd the netinstall, it's only for a server install so cmd only, my toruble is that I have so many ISOs that it would be very handy to be able to boot from iso directly and install |
| 14:45.41 | jhutchins | PhoenixSTF: How did you create the boot device? |
| 14:45.44 | cardiel | Deeps: ok, is it too unstable maybe? i've used bind several years ago and i found the configuration of it wasn't the easiest task.. so when i saw nsd supported dnssec i tried it , easy configuration but probably not so stable then |
| 14:45.58 | cardiel | Deeps: will switch to bind with dnssec then |
| 14:46.15 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins, grun-install on the pen like it was a drive... |
| 14:46.46 | gnarface | PhoenixSTF: well you seem to want to just make it as hard on yourself as possible and i'm pretty sure your problem with the cdrom is user error so good luck with... what ever it is you are trying to do |
| 14:46.50 | jhutchins | PhoenixSTF: How did you create the netinstall device? |
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| 14:47.53 | PhoenixSTF | jhutchins, I didn't, I am using the iso just how I got it, copied it to the USB stick, created a menuentry on grub and boot |
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| 14:48.06 | Deeps | cardiel: not unstable, just i couldn't work it |
| 14:48.15 | Deeps | cardiel: could well have been user error, rather than any issue with the software |
| 14:48.29 | Deeps | cardiel: I just couldn't do it. Went back to bind9 and life was comparatively easier |
| 14:48.33 | jhutchins | PhoenixSTF: You might want to look at the install guide. AFIK what you're trying won't work. |
| 14:48.42 | jhutchins | !tell PhoenixSTF about ig |
| 14:48.56 | Deeps | cardiel: I don't by any means intend to suggest that bind9 > nsd3, just that for my own purposes, it was easier |
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| 14:49.19 | jhutchins | salvik: If you keep your answers here someone else might recognize the problem. |
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| 14:49.39 | eptalon | heyas |
| 14:49.56 | eptalon | how "stable" is iceweasel 23? |
| 14:49.59 | jhutchins | salvik: It looks like you have a bad mime definition file, possibly corrupt. |
| 14:50.11 | X-Sleepy-X | Hi! I recently changed my network settings from using the network manager to manually editing the settings in /etc/network/interfaces to a static IP and now my cifs shares aren't mounted at boot so I have to manually mount them. I've searched the logs but I didn't find any useful information. What can I do, except reverting to the old network setting using the GUI? |
| 14:50.14 | jhutchins | salvik: Use dpkg -S to find out which package that file belongs to and reinstall it. |
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| 14:50.47 | jhutchins | X-Sleepy-X: How are you mounting them? |
| 14:51.13 | cardiel | Deeps: ok, i think nsd3 was easier to setup.. but the A records wont show when i do dig mydomain.org, they work though |
| 14:51.20 | eptalon | salvik: just joined recently, but files becoming corrupt may be a sign of a hard-drive about to fail... |
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| 14:51.43 | abrotman | or bad hardware in general |
| 14:52.03 | cardiel | eptalon: im running iceweasel 20 because i have mouse scrolling problem with 21 and up |
| 14:52.18 | eptalon | cardiel: I am installing 23 |
| 14:52.30 | eptalon | let's hope |
| 14:53.10 | X-Sleepy-X | jhutchins: Right now I just run "sudo mount -a" but with /etc/fstab I use account information i a .smbcredentials file and the mount in fstab looks like this: //server01.local/shares/administration /home/sleepy/Public/Administration cifs iocharset=utf8,credentials=/home/sleepy/.smbcredentials,uid=1000 0 0 |
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| 14:54.32 | jhutchins | X-Sleepy-X: How about adding "auto" to those options? |
| 14:54.44 | salvik | i think that problem is in package libglib2.0-dev beacuse i reinstalled it... |
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| 14:55.06 | X-Sleepy-X | jhutchins: What would that do and how would it look? |
| 14:55.24 | jhutchins | X-Sleepy-X: Actually, shouldn't need to, I have just cifs credentials... on mine (squeeze). |
| 14:55.31 | abrotman | note the network would need to be up before the drive tries to mount |
| 14:55.52 | jhutchins | abrotman: The system should see the cifs and know that. |
| 14:56.06 | X-Sleepy-X | abrotman: Yeah, that's what I'm suspecting to be the issue... |
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| 14:56.25 | jhutchins | It's supposed to reserve entries for nfs,cifs, and samba and mount those after the network comes up. |
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| 14:56.50 | jhutchins | salvik: Please don't msg me. |
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| 14:57.17 | jhutchins | salvik: There are people here who know Debian package management much better than I do. |
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| 14:57.39 | X-Sleepy-X | I have these options in /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0 allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static |
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| 14:58.27 | jhutchins | X-Sleepy-X: I believe you should have either auto or allow-hotplug, not both. |
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| 14:59.34 | X-Sleepy-X | jhutchins: Ok, I will try that. |
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| 15:00.01 | jhutchins | X-Sleepy-X: Not sure that will solve the cifs problem but it should help. |
| 15:00.21 | X-Sleepy-X | jhutchins: Thanks! i will give it a try. |
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| 15:06.50 | Duality | Hey all :) |
| 15:07.01 | eptalon | hello Duality |
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| 15:07.37 | Duality | My wifi just stopped connecting and now the wifi led on my laptop stopped showing, and I don't know why this is I haven't updated recently only the wired connection works. |
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| 15:08.31 | eptalon | Duality: have you updated the router, or changed its setup? |
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| 15:09.14 | Duality | eptalon: no, but the led on my laptop is off, it's normally showing even if I've not connected to anything. |
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| 15:09.35 | SirLagz | Duality: you've probably turned the wifi on the laptop off then |
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| 15:10.03 | eptalon | Duality: I have a switch (the thing with all the cables going in), that needs "re-plugfging about twice a week" |
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| 15:10.23 | SirLagz | eptalon: sounds like you need to buy a new switch :D |
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| 15:10.45 | Duality | SirLagz: no, if I press the button the menu on the gui says that it's turned of by harware switch when I press again it says that the wifi is disconnected and doesn't show any wifi connections to connect to |
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| 15:11.41 | SirLagz | Duality: I'm assuming you've tried rebooting ? |
| 15:12.05 | Duality | A few times now :) |
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| 15:12.23 | SirLagz | Duality: does your laptop also have a "software" or "FN-Fx" combination key to turn wifi on or off ? |
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| 15:12.35 | eptalon | Duality: on your laptop, there is no switch that allows to enable/disable wifi? |
| 15:13.31 | Duality | eptalon: I tried it and explained what happend :) |
| 15:13.50 | Duality | like 17:28 < Duality> SirLagz: no, if I press the button the menu on the gui says that it's turned of by harware switch when I press again it says that the wifi is disconnected and doesn't show any wifi connections to connect to |
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| 15:14.14 | Duality | SirLagz: don't know |
| 15:14.26 | eptalon | Duality: do you get your ip address automatically? |
| 15:14.27 | SirLagz | Duality: that would be my next port of call then |
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| 15:14.33 | Duality | SirLagz: no FN combination though :) |
| 15:14.40 | SirLagz | Duality: are you sure ? |
| 15:14.43 | SirLagz | Duality: what laptop ? |
| 15:14.55 | Duality | pretty sure yes :) |
| 15:15.06 | Duality | hp compaq nc6400 |
| 15:15.30 | Duality | eptalon: yes I get it automaticly :) |
| 15:15.54 | eptalon | when you restart, you should get a new one. |
| 15:16.12 | eptalon | if its not turned off before you reboot |
| 15:16.16 | Duality | hmm It seems the led just turned on, and I didn't do a thing. now It won't connect, it keeps reconnecting |
| 15:16.32 | roboman2444 | yeah, im still a little mad at debian switching to multiarch |
| 15:16.36 | roboman2444 | broke a fair number of things |
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| 15:19.39 | salvik | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:22.57 | nmsss | hi guys busy reading basic linux info, what does these symbols "{} \;" in this mean?: find . -name "*.tmp" -exec rm {} \; |
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| 15:24.29 | bitesdkfjsdlf | سمَـَّوُوُحخ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ ̷̴̐خ امارتيخ ̷̴̐خ |
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| 15:25.08 | deego | nmsss: Glad you're reading. For that sort of stuff, you might also wish to join channels like ##linux and #linuxhelp |
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| 15:27.56 | nmsss | deego: thank u |
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| 15:29.38 | nkuttler | nmsss: fwiw, man find will explain that and even have examples |
| 15:30.14 | deego | nmsss: and #bash |
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| 15:30.38 | nmsss | nkuttler: ok, i checked info but couldnt find, will look at man too, thank u :) |
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| 15:31.44 | nmsss | wasnt sure if it was to do with find or exec or what |
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| 15:34.52 | val_erie | I need to set the PYTHONDOCS environment variable. What would the command to do it in debian? |
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| 15:35.19 | nkuttler | val_erie: depends on your shell.. export? |
| 15:36.08 | val_erie | nkuttler, |
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| 15:39.13 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | after a looooong while, i'm back |
| 15:39.18 | AlBaTrOs-NOOB | babilen, good news :D |
| 15:41.34 | val_erie | nkuttler, I need to set it in order to get help for operators like print (which is not available from help() in python). I installed python-doc, since the howto I am following says that PYTHONDOCS environment variable can be easily se in Linux using this command as an example : env PYTHONDOCS=/usr/share/doc/python-docs-2.3.4/html/ python. I used command env PYTHONDOCS=/usr/share/doc/python2.7-doc/html/ python, but it did |
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| 15:44.23 | nkuttler | val_erie: just use PYTHONDOCS=/usr/share/doc/python2.7-doc/html/ python |
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| 15:46.56 | val_erie | nkuttler, I used PYTHONDOCS=/usr/share/doc/python2.7-doc/html/ python. It starts the python interactive shell, but with help('print'), I get: no documentation found for 'print' |
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| 15:48.31 | nkuttler | val_erie: um, i don't think py2 came with help for print.. |
| 15:48.39 | nkuttler | it being a statement and everything.. |
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| 15:48.56 | Pingu | Hello |
| 15:49.19 | jhutchins | val_erie: Did you export it? |
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| 15:50.45 | nkuttler | val_erie: fwiw, in py < 3 help("__builtin__.print") |
| 15:50.51 | nkuttler | val_erie: see also #python |
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| 15:52.18 | Pingu | So what's everyone up to |
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| 15:53.15 | val_erie | nkuttler, |
| 15:53.29 | val_erie | nkuttler, thanks |
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| 16:15.01 | dpkg | <arghx> why isn't my debian starting with wrong ip address configuration? is that nomral? |
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| 17:02.04 | gnuweb | Hello everyone. How come I'm not seeing smbfs in the repositories? |
| 17:02.50 | babilen | judd: bug rm smbfs |
| 17:02.53 | judd | Sorry, no removal reasons were found. |
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| 17:02.59 | babilen | judd: v smbfs |
| 17:03.00 | judd | Package: smbfs on i386 -- squeeze: 2:4.5-2+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 2:5.2-1~bpo60+1 |
| 17:03.10 | babilen | gnuweb: It has been removed post squeeze |
| 17:03.34 | gnuweb | thanks babilen, so how do I mount samba shares now? |
| 17:03.39 | nkuttler | it's cifs-utils now i think |
| 17:03.46 | babilen | dpkg: tell gnuweb about cifs |
| 17:04.13 | babilen | dpkg: tell gnuweb about samba |
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| 17:07.27 | jhutchins | WHat editor handles partly binary files properly? vim seeems tbe getting thrown off somehow. |
| 17:08.13 | timdau | When I stop an lxc, if it is the last IP assocaited with eth3, it "down"s eth3. |
| 17:08.27 | timdau | which takes down the vlan interfaces assocaited with that interface. |
| 17:08.31 | timdau | bug or feature? |
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| 17:10.07 | gnuweb | thanks babilen i figured i tout |
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| 17:14.22 | arcnewuss | Using wicd... I get ipaddress but no connection |
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| 17:15.18 | arcnewuss | it is intermittent problem... I am connected wicd shows my ip, but I lose the actual connection while still having the assigned ip |
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| 17:17.31 | arcnewuss | if I purge wicd can I still connect to a network |
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| 17:17.42 | arcnewuss | Using iwconfig maybe or ifconfig |
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| 17:21.34 | babilen | arcnewuss: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line (and you might want to try network-manager as it sees a lot of development and might work more reliable than wicd) |
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| 17:22.33 | arcnewuss | babilen: so just remove wicd and install network-manager? |
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| 17:25.55 | babilen | arcnewuss: That would allow you to test the behaviour with network-manager, yes. |
| 17:25.57 | jhutchins | arcnewuss: What kind of encryption? |
| 17:26.44 | babilen | But then you might want to elaborate on the "I get ip address but no connection" part. Can you ping your gateway? Can you ping by IP (e.g. "ping 4.2.2.4") Can you resolve hostnames? (and so on) |
| 17:27.25 | babilen | What does "ifconfig -a" show? What about "ip route" ? Or "nslookup debian.org" ? |
| 17:27.31 | babilen | (brb) |
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| 17:30.13 | xuser | do you guys know how to make fonts not look like crap in debian gnome wheeze? like in chromium and iceweasel |
| 17:30.16 | jelly-home | brbilen |
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| 17:31.15 | mtn | xuser: pretty funny question |
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| 17:32.24 | mtn | xuser: what have you tried? what happened? what is wrong, etc. etc. |
| 17:33.33 | arcnewuss | Can you run network manager without a systray? |
| 17:33.39 | xuser | mtn: ;-) - nothing really, just a default debian gnome install, fonts for web browsing are horrible by default |
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| 17:34.22 | xuser | wonders why ubuntu does a better job at rendering fonts |
| 17:34.28 | mtn | xuser: well, go adjust your fonts to your pleasure. you need gnome-tweak-tool, if you don't have it |
| 17:34.50 | mtn | xuser: ubuntu doesn't, it just uses different fonts. you can use them too. |
| 17:35.00 | jelly-home | xuser: someone cared about freetype defaults and available fonts there |
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| 17:35.40 | jelly-home | mtn: techinically $EDITOR ~/.fonts.conf will do |
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| 17:36.07 | mtn | jelly-home: cool, much easier than tweak-tool, huh? |
| 17:36.23 | jelly-home | fsvo easier! |
| 17:36.45 | xuser | how is tweak-tool going to help? does tweak-tool downloads fonts? |
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| 17:37.00 | mtn | xuser: it allows you to adjust fonts |
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| 17:38.02 | musca | as jelly-home said: edit .fonts.conf https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts#Subpixel-hinting_and_Font-smoothing |
| 17:38.03 | xuser | mtn: is tweak-tool the advanced settings in gnome 3? |
| 17:38.18 | Dark_light | xuser: http://paste.debian.net/32448/ try this .fonts.conf |
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| 17:39.47 | xuser | musca: Dark_light: let me try |
| 17:40.10 | Dark_light | remember to restart X |
| 17:40.19 | xuser | ok |
| 17:40.57 | xuser | was on that page before |
| 17:41.08 | xuser | that's what I get for skimming |
| 17:41.22 | Vicissitude | xuser, this may also be appropriate http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=88545 |
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| 17:45.10 | babilen | xuser: I had success in running |
| 17:45.15 | babilen | err |
| 17:45.49 | edju | running testing, and kmail2 is a disaster. installed claws, but so far have not been successful in importing the kmail mails, folders, etc. would greatly appreciate a pointer to a sxs, if anyone has one. |
| 17:45.58 | babilen | xuser: "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" and choosing "Autohinter", "Automatic", "No" |
| 17:46.21 | babilen | xuser: I found that to be much better than the "Native" setting that is used by default. ymmv |
| 17:47.59 | jelly-home | autohinter++ |
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| 17:48.15 | xuser | https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts#Subpixel-hinting_and_Font-smoothing |
| 17:48.32 | xuser | ^^ huge improvement :) |
| 17:48.41 | xuser | babilen: I guess that tries to do the same? |
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| 17:51.15 | xuser | Vicissitude: are those infinality debs made by a debian maintainer? |
| 17:51.30 | xuser | anyways, thanks all |
| 17:51.33 | Vicissitude | I don't remember offhand for sure. Don't think so. |
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| 17:51.56 | babilen | xuser: Try the first approach, what is documented there is overkill (IMHO) and I would simply reconfigure the package. |
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| 17:53.12 | jhutchins | edju: kmail should have used a standard maildir or mbox tree in your home directory. |
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| 17:53.30 | jhutchins | edju: You could try thunderbird (icedove?) or alpine. |
| 17:53.35 | lalaland_ | hi, how can i position the window buttons in debian wheezy?i can't find it in the gconf or dconf-editor or in the gnome-tweak-tool?:\ |
| 17:53.51 | Dark_light | xuser: glad you like it :) |
| 17:53.52 | lalaland_ | guess windowbuttons are one word .. |
| 17:54.07 | jhutchins | edju: Should not need to import anything. |
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| 17:57.40 | anexit | trying to upgrade from squeeze to jessie and I'm getting the following errors |
| 17:57.47 | anexit | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk-3-0_3.8.2-3_amd64.deb (--unpack): |
| 17:57.48 | dpkg | anexit: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
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| 17:58.16 | anexit | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libgtk2.0-0_2.24.20-1_amd64.deb (--unpack): triggers ci file contains unknown directive `interest-noawait' |
| 17:58.16 | dpkg | anexit: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 17:58.19 | anexit | configured to not write apport reports |
| 17:58.24 | zykotick9 | anexit: you shouldn't skip releases, so squeeze->wheezy then wheezy->jessie makes more sense |
| 17:58.38 | anexit | ah |
| 17:58.45 | anexit | how would i go back then? |
| 17:58.57 | jhutchins | anexit: You should restore your backup. |
| 17:59.05 | anexit | :/ |
| 17:59.41 | anexit | so no way to fix it eh? |
| 17:59.44 | anexit | awesome |
| 17:59.55 | lalaland_ | does anyone has an idea how to do this? ->change the position of the windowbuttons? |
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| 18:03.12 | edju | jhutchins, yes, the original kmail stuff is buried many subdirs deep. but it seems that to import into claws, i'd have to do each message individually. that'd take a week. gosh, used pine ages ago. what do you mean, "should not have to import anything"? |
| 18:03.14 | brilliant_ | lalaland_: only in xfce |
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| 18:13.04 | lalaland_ | really....what a pity, that this is not possible anymore...is it not a part of the linux philosophy, that a system should be customizable and not a jail for the user?=) it's just nice, when such things are customizable in a easy way, for example with the gconf-editor or even the tweak-tool...i hope, that's the right place to claim a bit, i like debian and i hope debian is not going to be the new uncustomizable and besides the eye-c |
| 18:13.04 | lalaland_ | andy ugly linux-brother of windows |
| 18:13.21 | lalaland_ | just my imo, i would'nt spam |
| 18:14.01 | jhutchins | edju: kmail 3.5 at least didn't do anything unusual with the messages, it used the standard *nix ~/mail directory for them. |
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| 18:14.36 | jhutchins | edju: If 4.x is doing something like converting them to an incompatible outlook-style registry that's worse than I thought it was. |
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| 18:15.13 | improviser | I deleted xorg.conf. Then "update-alternatives --config glx" -> selected mesa. Then changed fglrx-driver.conf to blacklist fglrx instead. |
| 18:15.33 | improviser | Are those sufficient to switch back to open source radeon driver? |
| 18:15.48 | jhutchins | lalaland_: Haven't been paying much attention to the course of gnome development in the last few years, eh? |
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| 18:17.44 | lalaland_ | gnome3 is not bad, but who don't wanna just clip some icons on a panel, so that it is easy accessible? Why it is not default, that icons are on the workspace and so forth ...but idk |
| 18:18.35 | lalaland_ | no i guess not jhutchins =) |
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| 18:21.03 | babilen | improviser: Sounds about right |
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| 18:21.24 | babilen | improviser: Well, you should never have had a /etc/X11/xorg.conf to begin with, but still |
| 18:21.49 | jhutchins | babilen: He would have if he was using the nvidia supplied drivers, wouldn't he? |
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| 18:22.11 | improviser | babilen, thanks I think fglrx needed it (or at least the amd control center) |
| 18:22.52 | edju | jhutchins, ~/mail has only two entries - saved-messages and sent-mail. oh, well - the heck with it. i'm off to do something I know - have to clean the kitchen. |
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| 18:23.05 | babilen | jhutchins: No, you would have a created a configuration snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ as detailed in https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Configuration |
| 18:23.13 | babilen | improviser: ^^ |
| 18:24.02 | babilen | improviser: But then I was primarily just being cocky ;) |
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| 18:24.26 | jhutchins | Must try harder to keep up with these things. |
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| 18:28.06 | improviser | that xorg.conf.d is nice |
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| 18:32.18 | jhutchins | This may explain why he can't import his mail. |
| 18:32.47 | jhutchins | edju: You still there? |
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| 18:34.08 | babilen | jhutchins: Read <empty xorg.conf> and <xorg.conf.d> in addition to "man 5 xorg.conf" |
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| 18:36.03 | tuxIO | hi |
| 18:36.18 | tuxIO | So I can pull a package from the official debian repository into an own one, right? |
| 18:36.30 | tuxIO | Currently I use a proxy (squid-deb-conf) |
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| 18:36.45 | tuxIO | But of course I also want to specify what packages should be available even when there is no internet |
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| 18:41.19 | jhutchins | tuxIO: rsync may be useful. |
| 18:41.22 | jhutchins | !mirror |
| 18:41.22 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <http.debian.net>, <geo sources.list> and <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 18:43.57 | sammy | I'm running a 32bit install currently and wanted to build android in a 64bit env. I know I can use qemu to emulate an entire 64bit machine, but isnt there a way to use it to run a different kernel without emulating an entire different machine? is it possible to qemu a 64bit kernel inside the i686 one? |
| 18:44.33 | sammy | 'inside'- I dunno exactly how it works. I just know I may not need to run an entire machine emulator cause this actually is an x64 system |
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| 18:49.26 | Monday | why isn't Debian the most popular distro right now? it seems really good |
| 18:49.51 | twobitsprite | has anyone here had any luck compiling/installing rsyslog 7 on wheezy? I'm stuck on the libestr requirement and can't figure out a good way to get it to build |
| 18:49.58 | babilen | Monday: We ship the wrong wallpapers ;) |
| 18:50.22 | improviser | Monday, no viral marketing |
| 18:50.38 | twobitsprite | (in b4 !anyone) |
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| 18:51.39 | babilen | twobitsprite: It is perfectly fine and socially acceptable to type "inbefore" on IRC. |
| 18:51.46 | Monday | i read on wikipedia that Ubuntu started because the Debian releases were taking too long, so Debain use to be the most popular distro? |
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| 18:53.10 | twobitsprite | babilen: oh, good. thanks |
| 18:53.45 | babilen | twobitsprite: But then this is, at least to my knowledge, not proper English as well, but this is getting seriously off-topic and I should probably have spend the last two minutes thinking about your problem rather than raging about your language skills and sociolinguistic background. |
| 18:54.08 | sammy | Monday: more like people wanted to use bleeding edge software, with all its bugs and growing pains. so people started putting together 'stable' releases of debian packages at a faster rate, and adding its own bells and whistles on top. |
| 18:54.25 | twobitsprite | babilen: :) |
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| 18:54.47 | sammy | Monday: debian releases take a while, but stable releases are /stable/. ubuntu LTS releases can't claim the same stability because the packages they mark as 'stable' haven't been tested nearly as long. |
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| 18:55.16 | babilen | twobitsprite: Why do you require rsyslog 7 and what have you done to backport it so far? It doesn't necessarily strike me as the kind of package that I would like to backport, given that it is such a central piece of infrastructure. |
| 18:55.49 | armin | my girlfriend just told me she doesn't want gnome3 on her laptop because it looks like made for stupid people. |
| 18:55.53 | twobitsprite | babilen: as an aside, my language skills are in tip-top shape, but I also indulge in using internet slang from time to time because I'm not a pretentious ass. :) |
| 18:56.11 | babilen | armin: Then let her use a different desktop environment |
| 18:56.28 | armin | babilen: i was just pointing out why i love that woman. |
| 18:56.56 | improviser | you should use console for everything |
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| 18:57.12 | armin | yes. especially for moving windows. |
| 18:57.14 | improviser | but it never made me feel smarter |
| 18:57.18 | babilen | judd: checkbackport rsyslog |
| 18:57.19 | judd | Backporting package rsyslog in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: librelp-dev (>= 1.0.3), libestr-dev (>= 0.1.5). |
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| 18:57.40 | babilen | twobitsprite: As you can see you have to backport (and install) those two -dev libraries before you can backport rsyslog. |
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| 18:57.56 | twobitsprite | babilen: Anyways, I downloaded the source package from Sid and tried to build it, but the configure script dies on not having the right version of libestr |
| 18:58.07 | babilen | Yes, you have to backp ... ^^^ |
| 18:58.29 | sammy | twobitsprite: isnt it something like `sudo apt-get build-dep -t sid rsyslog` ? |
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| 18:58.48 | sammy | twobitsprite: you can get apt to build the dependencies for you from sid sources, iirc? |
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| 18:59.01 | babilen | No, you cannot. |
| 18:59.13 | xuser | judd: checkbackport postgresql |
| 18:59.14 | judd | Backporting package postgresql in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 18:59.15 | twobitsprite | sammy: Oh? I don't think it's that simple... wouldn't that just try to install a bunch of packages from sid? |
| 18:59.33 | babilen | I mean you can backport each build-dependency individually, but there is no "backport this package and all its missing build-depedency" command. |
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| 18:59.47 | sammy | are you sure? |
| 19:00.06 | sammy | I swear Ive just told something to install from sid along with building any dependencies from sid I needed |
| 19:00.06 | babilen | xuser: Please message the bot and you might want to read http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/ to learn about its capabilities |
| 19:00.18 | babilen | sammy: Yes, I am quite sure. |
| 19:00.20 | sammy | I mean, I'm not sure why that wouldn't be possible. its teling you what it needs to build from sid. why wouldn't it be automated? |
| 19:01.12 | DJRWolf | I installed 7.0.0 on an AMD A4 system, booted fine, did what I could to install a few programs, stumbled though the graphics drivers, and a new UI, now after I get past GRUB it just has a blinking cursor and can't do anything. Did I botch the driver install? |
| 19:01.27 | sammy | so what does `apt-get build-dep -t sid package` do, then? only install dependencies with binary packages? |
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| 19:03.20 | sammy | twobitsprite: dont you need to install those two packages from sid, isnt that what the error is trying to tell you? or are they in experimental? you should be able to do the same build-dep line as long as the source packages you need are available, I swear I'm not crazy |
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| 19:04.25 | sammy | DJRWolf: possibly. worst case scenario you can add the word 'single' to any of the boot command lines to get a command prompt and not boot into GUI or multiuser mode. you can then work fromthere to try to undo/fix the gfx driver install, if thats what was borked |
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| 19:04.40 | twobitsprite | sammy: the problem is, I don't think it's the best idea to just install binary packages from sid on a running stable system... generally at least you have to backport, i.e., rebuild the packages from source. |
| 19:04.55 | sammy | twobitsprite: you're right, thats why you only light up source repos |
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| 19:05.00 | babilen | sammy: That command tries to install the build-dependencies of "package" in sid. It requires you to have sid sources enabled and it also cannot magically install build depdencies that are not available from the stable binary repos. |
| 19:05.02 | sammy | and sid packages get built against your existing packages |
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| 19:05.20 | xuser | babilen: sure |
| 19:05.31 | DJRWolf | sammy thanks |
| 19:05.33 | babilen | sammy: Regarding mixing stable with testing or unstable that is a *very* bad idea and will break your system rather sooner than later. |
| 19:06.03 | sammy | 'magically install build dependcencies that are not available from the stable binary repos' so it only installs binary dependencies? and you just have to run the same commmands to build those packages as well, one `apt-get build-dep -t sid dependency` then another apt-get to build it |
| 19:06.10 | brilliant_ | any good description how to make an *.deb-file ?? |
| 19:06.11 | sammy | babilen: if you're installing lots of binary packages, sure |
| 19:06.28 | sammy | babilen: if you make sure that all of the sid packages you install are build against all your other installed packages, you should be okay |
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| 19:06.45 | sammy | babilen: apt will freak out if you need a newer version of something that just wont work with what you have installed- that does happen, for sure |
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| 19:07.50 | hanasaki | what is on the live disk - debian live standard...? |
| 19:08.29 | sammy | twobitsprite: so I think you should do `sudo apt-get build-dep -t sid librelp-dev` and then have apt build and install it, and the same for the other dependency |
| 19:08.41 | babilen | brilliant_: Didn't we answer that some days ago? |
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| 19:09.16 | brilliant_ | babilen: no, i dont know |
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| 19:09.48 | babilen | sammy: You can backport packages yourself from sid, but you should never *directly* install them from sid. Even backporting a lot of packages might do more harm than good (cf. <backport caveat>) |
| 19:09.49 | brilliant_ | babilen: not in my presence |
| 19:10.08 | babilen | brilliant_: I was under the impression, give me a second to dig up the canonical links for this. |
| 19:10.19 | sammy | you should never install a package that builds correctly from source and has all its dependencies met, why exactly? |
| 19:10.29 | sammy | I understand what youre saying but you're talking about binary packages |
| 19:10.48 | sammy | you do not run into issues with packages being built against versions you dont have installed or things you dont have installed when you build them /on your machine/ |
| 19:11.05 | twobitsprite | sammy: I'll give it a try, thanks. |
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| 19:11.35 | sammy | they will either require things you do not have, and the build will be impossible, or they will build, and they will be just fine. you might get into issues with a non-standard package if you upgrade anything it depends on, but its up to a user to maintain their own packages. you can just rebuild it regularly. |
| 19:11.37 | brilliant_ | babilen: yes i had a similar problem with deb, but this kind of question is my first. thank you |
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| 19:12.18 | babilen | brilliant_: A good resource is the #debian-mentors channel over on irc.oftc.net and the resources and documentation linked at http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers ; I would, in particular, recommend to read the new maintainer's guide and, in due course, the Debian policy. |
| 19:12.29 | twobitsprite | sammy: right... and this server's mission in life is syslog, so I don't have much else running on it, so hopefully any upgraded packages shouldn't break anything else |
| 19:12.46 | babilen | brilliant_: You probably want to read http://honk.sigxcpu.org/projects/git-buildpackage/manual-html/gbp.html if you plan to maintain your packages in git. |
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| 19:13.07 | brilliant_ | babilen: thank you |
| 19:13.22 | sammy | twobitsprite: like I said, apt makes it SUPER easy to recompile the whole thing (or its two dependencies youll have to build) whenever you want. Id suggest doing it regularly until the rsyslogd version youre using moves into the distro youre running. |
| 19:13.32 | sammy | twobitsprite: good luck |
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| 19:14.17 | twobitsprite | sammy: thanks :) |
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| 19:14.57 | babilen | twobitsprite: One tool to look into is apt-src which might make your life a bit easier if you have to deal with source packages regularly. |
| 19:15.10 | sammy | twobitsprite: babilen speaks the truth. |
| 19:15.32 | sammy | but hopefully apt-get or aptitude will handle everything gracefully *fingerscrossed* |
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| 19:15.45 | twobitsprite | babilen: ohhh... that's a new one on me. I'll check it out |
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| 19:16.13 | babilen | Please do! |
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| 19:17.08 | babilen | And in appreciation of wonderful work done within the Debian community I ask everyone to take a look at: http://git-annex.branchable.com/ and to watch the video at http://git-annex.branchable.com/assistant/ |
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| 19:33.34 | Duality | could someone help me with this error ? http://pastebin.com/pMd3c8md |
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| 19:35.05 | mtn | Duality: no space left on device, so it says |
| 19:35.29 | Duality | mtn: yes but which device ? |
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| 19:35.41 | Duality | and how do i fix it? |
| 19:35.49 | mtn | Duality: hmm, the one you are installing to, maybe? |
| 19:36.08 | mtn | Duality: try running df in a terminal |
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| 19:36.22 | mtn | Duality: use a paste site to show us |
| 19:36.58 | Duality | this is wat df -h said |
| 19:37.01 | Duality | http://pastebin.com/WtPkQZtk |
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| 19:37.28 | mtn | Duality: as you can see root is almost completely full |
| 19:38.00 | Duality | But I got plenty space on my home directory, can i make root bigger and home directory smaller ? |
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| 19:39.11 | mtn | Duality: maybe, but that is pretty dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. you can use a live disk and gparted. |
| 19:39.36 | Duality | ok I don't know what I am doing |
| 19:39.41 | Duality | :) |
| 19:40.45 | mtn | Duality: reinstall is the safest. with a good backup, of course |
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| 19:41.46 | Duality | mtn: but I've just installed this distro like a month ago |
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| 19:45.29 | ToApolytoXaos | it's been 2 awful weeks with jessie and the sound issue remains the same; for some reason, it stops playback when chromium is open |
| 19:45.46 | ToApolytoXaos | it affects every multimedia application it's open while plays a song |
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| 19:47.05 | joelmo | I changed shell in root with chsh -s /bin/cshh although cshh doesn't actually exist. i dont have sudo installed, how do i fix this. I thought su --shell /bin/bash would work but doesnt |
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| 19:47.52 | cusco | su "/bin/bash" |
| 19:48.09 | cusco | su -c "/bin/bash" |
| 19:49.18 | joelmo | cusco: still get Cannot execute "/bin/cshh" |
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| 19:49.32 | joelmo | maybe i just can do a symlink |
| 19:50.04 | jmcnaught | babilen: thanks for the link to git-annex. very cool. the video has some very loud typing sounds though :) |
| 19:50.15 | cusco | ow I though the objective was be able to set back bash, having a root shell |
| 19:50.18 | joelmo | although, i can't do that because i dont have permissions |
| 19:50.38 | cusco | what is cshh ? |
| 19:50.39 | mniip | joelmo, accidentally /etc/paswd |
| 19:50.43 | mniip | ? |
| 19:50.53 | cusco | mniip: that is what I thought |
| 19:51.02 | babilen | jmcnaught: yeah, I love it and thought I bring it to the attention of more people |
| 19:51.11 | mniip | Only solution is to mount your drive elsewhere |
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| 19:51.29 | mniip | Or, for instance, cut off root in your grub |
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| 19:51.46 | mniip | And edit it from initramfs |
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| 19:52.33 | joelmo | mniip: i havent done anything there |
| 19:52.52 | mniip | Then whats up |
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| 19:53.22 | joelmo | cshh was just an example i wrote "/bin/fish" although i dont have fish there, its in /usr/bin/fish |
| 19:53.35 | mniip | Uh |
| 19:53.38 | mniip | Exactly |
| 19:53.46 | mniip | You fucked your passwd |
| 19:54.30 | joelmo | can i change login shell with password from my user? |
| 19:54.34 | mniip | You can't do anything from a linux that uses this passwd |
| 19:54.50 | cusco | if you have sudo, you can use sudo -s |
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| 19:55.00 | joelmo | i dont have sudo |
| 19:55.02 | cusco | ok |
| 19:55.07 | joelmo | :* |
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| 19:55.09 | joelmo | :( |
| 19:55.17 | mniip | Either mount the drive elsewhere, on another computer, |
| 19:55.22 | cusco | yea, I guess mounting it elsewhere, or make grub boot with init=/bin/bash |
| 19:55.28 | cusco | is the way to go |
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| 19:55.35 | mniip | Or a usb linux |
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| 19:55.40 | cusco | or that |
| 19:55.45 | mniip | Er, usb stick linux |
| 19:56.12 | mniip | init=/bin/bash is unlikely to work |
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| 19:56.41 | keyzs | how much swap space should i give to 8gb ram? |
| 19:56.46 | mniip | init loads lotsa stuff required for bash to work |
| 19:56.53 | joelmo | isnt this a bad feature in su? if i want to login and he cant execute a shell cant he have a fallback to bash |
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| 19:57.04 | mniip | keyzs, common practice is 2x the ram |
| 19:57.26 | SmashingX | how can I get information about a /dev item? |
| 19:57.31 | keyzs | 16gb? |
| 19:57.35 | mniip | SmashingX, stat? |
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| 19:57.41 | mniip | keyzs, yes |
| 19:58.03 | keyzs | thats a lot |
| 19:58.10 | SmashingX | mniip: it doesn't show capacity for example |
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| 19:58.35 | mniip | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.38 | mniip | tt |
| 19:58.41 | mniip | ty* |
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| 19:58.48 | SmashingX | ? |
| 19:59.03 | SmashingX | what about /dev/sda |
| 19:59.07 | mniip | It's just a character/block special file |
| 19:59.18 | mniip | It can't have size |
| 19:59.31 | SmashingX | so I will have to mount it |
| 19:59.36 | SmashingX | to see the capacity;/ |
| 19:59.39 | SmashingX | I guess |
| 19:59.41 | mniip | You'd have to use something else |
| 19:59.45 | mniip | No, not really |
| 19:59.50 | SmashingX | mh? |
| 19:59.53 | SmashingX | so then? |
| 20:00.06 | cusco | 20:48 < mniip> init=/bin/bash is unlikely to work |
| 20:00.10 | cusco | I don't see why |
| 20:00.35 | mniip | cusco, will that even initialize keyboard |
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| 20:01.01 | cusco | sure, I recovered root passwords like that before |
| 20:01.05 | mniip | Oh wait, here, |
| 20:01.10 | cusco | having a keyboard attached |
| 20:01.23 | cusco | it comes after initramfs |
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| 20:01.32 | mniip | sh -i "sleep 10 &" |
| 20:01.40 | cusco | or initrd |
| 20:01.43 | mniip | When sh dies, where will sleep go |
| 20:01.50 | twobitsprite | babilen: You were right, apt-src is pretty awesome. Got rsyslog7 installed with no little to no sweat. :) |
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| 20:02.21 | babilen | yayayayay! |
| 20:02.27 | babilen | twobitsprite: great, /me is happy |
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| 20:02.48 | twobitsprite | :D |
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| 20:04.00 | codygman | I booted my computer connected to an external monitor(VGA1). Xrandr says my laptops internal monitor(eDP1) is on but it is not. I tried running xrandr --output eDP1 --mode 1366x768 to turn it on but that didn't work. |
| 20:04.09 | codygman | http://sprunge.us/GSAU |
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| 20:07.57 | adsfd | http://www.dukascopy.com/tradercontest/?action=blog&trader=Grizzly |
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| 20:25.23 | max | Hi |
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| 20:28.17 | Guest13745 | Am looking for a script or bash file that can extract .rar files or .zip in the same directory, also scan all directories to find any .rar or .zip can any one help me |
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| 20:29.29 | Yasuo | hi, i want a cronjob every minute but not reported to syslog. starting a line with "-" doesnt work for debian? |
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| 20:41.05 | DammitJim | is there a way to set up an smtp server to only allow emails to go to 1 domain? |
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| 21:08.15 | codygman | How can I upgrade my wheezy kernel from 3.2? I see something about a 3.8 kernel, but it's maintained by Ubuntu? Will it be okay to run on debian? I'm fairly sure I didn't put any ubuntu repos in my sources.lst |
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| 21:10.23 | schreber | you could do a dist-upgrade or run over to kernel.ubtunu.com/~kernel-ppa and grab the three required files and install them |
| 21:10.42 | mumpitzel | codygman: no. you can get a kernel from wheezy backports. why do you want a newer kernel? |
| 21:10.51 | mumpitzel | schreber: please don't give bad advice |
| 21:11.14 | schreber | that's not really bad advice that's just one option that is available |
| 21:11.39 | mumpitzel | it's shitty and bad advice, getting a kernel from a different distro |
| 21:12.12 | codygman | mumpitzel: Because I had 3.8 and hibernation worked correctly (it doesn't with 3.2) but I uninstalled it because I saw "managed by ubuntu" and thought an ubuntu ppa had somehow got into my sources. |
| 21:12.24 | schreber | well the other obvious choice would be getting it directly from kernel.org and compile your own but I imagine most people aren't willing to do the leg work |
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| 21:12.50 | mumpitzel | schreber: 3.9 or maybe even 3.10 are in backports by now |
| 21:13.07 | schreber | well I know 3.10 is |
| 21:13.47 | codygman | mumpitzel: Another issue is virtualbox didn't seem to recompile for that kernel? Isn't it supposed to recompile when you use dkms? |
| 21:14.02 | mumpitzel | !tell codygman about bdo kernel |
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| 21:14.10 | useless-eater | [_UU] ohoh I hate it when disks die.. I -had- two raid0 volumes on that disk too :\ should I try to rebuild it in some way? |
| 21:14.11 | mumpitzel | codygman: "that kernel" was what version? |
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| 21:15.11 | musca | useless-eater: raid0 ist not redundant, your data is gone. |
| 21:15.12 | codygman | mumpitzel: Sorry, it didn't seem to recompile for kernel version 3.8. I guess explaining this problem is pointless though since I didn't want that kernel anyway because it was an ubuntu specific one. Going to try installing 3.10 bpo. |
| 21:15.41 | mumpitzel | you will need to install the headers too so that dkms can work |
| 21:15.54 | mumpitzel | that's why it didn't work with 3.8 |
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| 21:16.53 | Yasuo | how do i supress /etc/crontab-entries to syslog? |
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| 21:17.04 | useless-eater | musca: I know.. but maybe I can get the disk spinning again by doing something. |
| 21:17.13 | Yasuo | starting a line in crontab with "-" doesnt work for my debian |
| 21:17.17 | codygman | mumpitzel: To clarify you are saying I need the 3.10 image and headers otherwise dkms will not work, and had I installed the 3.8 headers dkms would have worked unelss there were incompatabilities because that kernel was designed with ubuntu not in mind. |
| 21:17.25 | useless-eater | wonders why disks always fail at the worst possible moment |
| 21:17.59 | useless-eater | man hdparm |
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| 21:18.30 | goddard | how can i format a 3 TB drive with Gparted gui |
| 21:18.43 | goddard | its unmounted and unallocated at the moment |
| 21:18.50 | Yasuo | MBR only supports 2TB |
| 21:19.01 | goddard | what does that mean? |
| 21:19.06 | Yasuo | you cannot add partitions |
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| 21:19.21 | goddard | cant add partitions? |
| 21:19.25 | Yasuo | you cannot add partitions to boot from |
| 21:19.34 | goddard | i dont want to boot from it |
| 21:19.35 | Yasuo | with a classic pc |
| 21:19.40 | goddard | its just an extra disk |
| 21:19.42 | Yasuo | then format it using GPT |
| 21:19.45 | jhutchins | useless-eater: Murphy's law. |
| 21:19.54 | goddard | GPT? |
| 21:20.06 | Yasuo | MBR is the classic partition table |
| 21:20.14 | Yasuo | TPB boots only from UEFI |
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| 21:20.44 | goddard | I am just using this as a backup disk |
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| 21:21.06 | jhutchins | Yay! Backups! |
| 21:21.58 | useless-eater | anyone knows about some hdparm-kungfu that I could try to get disk up and spinning again? -w maybe? |
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| 21:22.57 | Yasuo | didnt do it but try the "disk" menu |
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| 21:23.57 | jhutchins | useless-eater: two RAID volumes on the same drive? I think you do not understand the concept. |
| 21:24.14 | jhutchins | useless-eater: Freeze it. |
| 21:24.45 | Woet | so.. what's up with this? http://pastebin.com/vga8T2mL |
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| 21:27.14 | useless-eater | jhutchins: I think I do. I have disks of different sizes. Most of the space I could raid up as level5 I did, but what was left on two disks I put on raid0 for speed :) |
| 21:27.53 | jhutchins | useless-eater: You might benchmark that and see what you really gained. |
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| 21:28.25 | jhutchins | useless-eater: In any case, I'm serious, put the drive in the freezer. |
| 21:28.59 | cafuego | In a zip-loc bag first, then the freezer. |
| 21:29.04 | useless-eater | jhutchins: raid5 wasnt too fast, but the raid0 was pretty ok.. I did not do a horrible lot of writing on both raids at the same time though |
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| 21:31.20 | useless-eater | cafuego,jhutchins: going to try the freezer then. sata on ahci mode got hotplug capabilities right? |
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| 21:31.41 | cafuego | useless-eater: Don't expect that to actually work |
| 21:31.54 | cafuego | unless you're looking at server level hardware |
| 21:32.04 | useless-eater | cafuego: can things break, or just nothing will happen? |
| 21:32.17 | cafuego | Likely a kenel panic about missing hardware |
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| 21:32.44 | cafuego | unmount yuor raid array and remove it from /etc/fstab, shutdown, remove drive. |
| 21:32.53 | useless-eater | ok |
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| 21:32.57 | cafuego | Don't bother plugging it back in until you have a prepared replacement drive |
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| 21:33.54 | Archguy | How do I get ix.io for Debian? |
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| 21:35.32 | useless-eater | jhutchins, cafuego: thanks a lot for your help :) |
| 21:35.46 | mumpitzel | Archguy: it's probably a script. just download it somewhere. debian has some scripts to paste from the commandline too: pastebinit for example |
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| 21:36.54 | Woet | how am I supposed to restart my networking? http://pastebin.com/vga8T2mL |
| 21:37.41 | mumpitzel | Woet: are you configuring your network via /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 21:37.44 | jhutchins | Woet: Lots of other ways. |
| 21:37.47 | Woet | mumpitzel: yes |
| 21:37.52 | jhutchins | Woet: /etc/init.d/network restart |
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| 21:37.56 | Woet | jhutchins: that's deprecated |
| 21:38.02 | jhutchins | ifconfig eth0 down |
| 21:38.03 | Woet | i assume (and hope) for good reasons |
| 21:38.07 | jhutchins | ip |
| 21:38.12 | Woet | jhutchins: that will cause me to lose my connection |
| 21:38.16 | jhutchins | Woet: So what? |
| 21:38.22 | Woet | it's a remote box connected through ssh |
| 21:38.42 | jhutchins | Woet: Yes, if you restart your networking you will probably loose the connection. |
| 21:38.43 | C00re | everyone ive asked about that restart network has no concrete answer how to restart the pardon my french hotdog, damn network |
| 21:38.52 | Woet | C00re: same |
| 21:39.02 | Woet | /etc/init.d worked fine for me on etch and lenny |
| 21:39.03 | C00re | when i stop the network, the network is DOWN, completly |
| 21:39.05 | Woet | but suddenly it's deprecated now |
| 21:39.10 | C00re | must local login.. |
| 21:39.19 | Woet | so many network issues in squeeze and wheez |
| 21:39.19 | C00re | and restart |
| 21:39.20 | Woet | y |
| 21:39.21 | C00re | computer |
| 21:39.24 | C00re | wtf :) |
| 21:39.30 | Woet | exactly same experience here |
| 21:39.33 | Woet | reboots always fix it |
| 21:39.39 | Woet | but sometimes that's simply not an option |
| 21:39.54 | jhutchins | From everything I've been able to find out, the only reason it's deprecated is because network management has moved to network-manager, especially for laptops. If you have a network that's not run by network-manager it works just fine. |
| 21:40.12 | Woet | jhutchins: this is a server not ran by network-manager |
| 21:40.17 | Woet | and it has many issues as mentioned |
| 21:40.27 | C00re | heard that before,.. but what is a network manager for console? |
| 21:40.38 | Woet | /etc/init.d/network restart is suddenly deprecated and all alternatives fail consistently |
| 21:40.39 | jhutchins | Woet: Then you can safely ignore the warning. |
| 21:40.49 | Woet | jhutchins: alright, the times i tried it the network went down |
| 21:40.50 | Woet | just like C00re |
| 21:40.52 | Woet | but i'll try it |
| 21:41.14 | jhutchins | Yeah, the network will go down. I don't know how you expect it to stay up if you're restarting it. |
| 21:41.25 | Woet | jhutchins: .. and doesn't come back up |
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| 21:41.36 | Woet | i thought that was implied but okay |
| 21:41.40 | jhutchins | Woet: Then you'll have to figure out why it doesn't come back up. |
| 21:41.49 | Woet | jhutchins: suggestions? |
| 21:41.55 | mumpitzel | C00re: /usr/bin/nmcli |
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| 21:42.16 | mumpitzel | Woet: logfiles |
| 21:42.54 | jhutchins | Woet: error messages? dmesg? syslog? |
| 21:43.39 | jhutchins | !doesn't work |
| 21:43.39 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 21:44.10 | Woet | so, let's see |
| 21:44.39 | Woet | jhutchins: //etc/init.d/networking restart, correct? |
| 21:44.54 | mumpitzel | Woet: single / at the beginning |
| 21:44.58 | Woet | yes |
| 21:45.03 | Woet | alright ,doing it now |
| 21:45.08 | Woet | and server is down |
| 21:45.12 | Woet | "failed to bring up eth0" |
| 21:45.18 | Woet | rtnetlink answers: file already exists |
| 21:45.34 | Woet | oh, actually the server is still online - it just didnt restart at all |
| 21:45.54 | jhutchins | Woet: So the problem is not with the commands you're using, but with the network configuration. |
| 21:46.05 | Woet | http://pastebin.com/YmS7LqYi |
| 21:46.09 | Woet | and one moment for the interfaces file |
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| 21:47.27 | Woet | jhutchins: http://pastebin.com/aixvqGCZ |
| 21:47.38 | jhutchins | That looks rather a lot like a stuck lockfile. |
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| 21:48.08 | Woet | it's been happening consistently on many of my debian servers |
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| 21:48.22 | Woet | different network configs, different datacenters, some with ipv6, some without ipv6 |
| 21:48.52 | Woet | i've basically been rebooting when making network changes |
| 21:49.16 | mumpitzel | Woet: don't use allow-hotplug. use auto |
| 21:49.18 | jhutchins | THat's a rather unusual configuration. |
| 21:49.34 | Woet | mumpitzel: that's in there by default after a debian installation |
| 21:49.36 | Woet | but i'll change it |
| 21:49.40 | mumpitzel | and why do you have 2 eth0? |
| 21:49.46 | Woet | one inet4, one inet6 |
| 21:49.55 | jhutchins | Woet: Ok, this is not a debian thing, because lots of us have debian servers with static configuration and ralink hardware and it works just fine. |
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| 21:50.51 | Woet | jhutchins: it's an unusual configuration that should work fine and does work fine on reboot |
| 21:51.31 | C00re | what does allow-hotplug eth0 in the configfile mean? i can remove the network card? =D |
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| 21:51.52 | jhutchins | Woet: try it with just address...\nnetmask...\ngateway... |
| 21:52.03 | C00re | its there in mine as default |
| 21:52.17 | Woet | jhutchins: that doesn't work since the gateway is outside the IP range |
| 21:52.18 | jhutchins | C00re: It means it will bring up that interface if you connect it while the system's up. |
| 21:52.29 | C00re | ok |
| 21:52.31 | mumpitzel | C00re: pretty much. think usb wlan adapter for example |
| 21:52.35 | jhutchins | Woet: Does if you use the right netmask. |
| 21:52.44 | Woet | sighs |
| 21:52.55 | Woet | you said "error messages? dmesg? syslog?" |
| 21:52.55 | jhutchins | Woet: May I point out that if you knew as much about this as you think you do you wouldn't be having this problem? |
| 21:53.04 | Woet | dmesg is empty, syslog is empty, error message is the rtnetlink |
| 21:53.22 | jhutchins | Woet: dmesg is not empty. |
| 21:53.23 | Woet | jhutchins: i know that this works on reboot, why is anything else relevant? |
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| 21:53.34 | Woet | if it works on reboot, it should work on /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 21:53.35 | Woet | it's that simple |
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| 21:54.21 | jhutchins | Woet: Because it doesn't work except on reboot, and you appear to want it to. |
| 21:54.38 | Woet | jhutchins: http://help.ovh.co.uk/IpAlias#link7 |
| 21:54.38 | jhutchins | Woet: Ok, you have all the answers, you tell us what's wrong. It's not the system, it's not the commands. |
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| 21:55.01 | Woet | jhutchins: okay, if it's not the system/commands, why does it work on reboot and not using the commands? |
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| 21:55.48 | jhutchins | Woet: THat link shows the format I suggested. |
| 21:56.05 | jhutchins | Woet: I'm done, you don't want help, you want to complain about things that aren't broken. |
| 21:56.06 | Woet | jhutchins: no it doesn't, you're looking at debian 3, 4 and 5 |
| 21:56.19 | Woet | jhutchins: please look at "For Debian 6, we must add one line per ip (eth0 is incremented X: X):" |
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| 21:56.32 | jhutchins | Nope, you know the answers already, I'm done. |
| 21:56.37 | Woet | alright |
| 21:57.13 | Woet | anyone else who knows something about debian and networking? error: http://pastebin.com/YmS7LqYi - interfaces: http://pastebin.com/aixvqGCZ - works fine on reboot. |
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| 22:00.07 | mumpitzel | Woet: what is the output of ifconfig after the reboot? which IP is used? ipv6 or ipv4? |
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| 22:00.39 | Woet | i just did /etc/init.d/networking stop. it outputs "[ ok ] Deconfiguring network interfaces...done", but the server keeps working and eth0 is still in ifconfig |
| 22:01.03 | Woet | mumpitzel: the same as it is right one: http://pastebin.com/YTnhcfXe |
| 22:01.47 | Dagger2 | `/etc/init.d/networking stop` isn't necessarily supposed to work on debian. use `ifdown <if>` |
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| 22:02.05 | Woet | Dagger2: "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured", doesn't take it down either |
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| 22:02.28 | Woet | not sure why that isn't supposed to work btw |
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| 22:02.35 | Woet | but okay |
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| 22:17.57 | Dagger2 | Woet: ok, sorry, was distracted... the question was "how to restart networking"? `ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0`, provided your network config is ok (otherwise bad stuff can happen, especially for remote systems without out-of-band consoles...) |
| 22:18.27 | Woet | Dagger2: http://pastebin.com/mEwRQXPH |
| 22:18.37 | Woet | interfaces file is at http://pastebin.com/aixvqGCZ |
| 22:18.40 | Woet | works fine on reboot |
| 22:18.42 | Dagger2 | Woet: also for what it's worth, a) don't use route, use `ip r` b) goddamn OVH |
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| 22:19.20 | Woet | i appreciate a) and b), i just dont think it wont make a difference in this case :) |
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| 22:19.54 | Dagger2 | "ifdown: interface eth0 not configured" means the interface isn't considered up by ifupdown |
| 22:20.02 | Dagger2 | which will happen if there's any errors bringing it up |
| 22:20.30 | Woet | Dagger2: it works on reboot and there are no errors mentioned anywhere (dmesg, syslog, stdout) except the one i pasted |
| 22:20.32 | Dagger2 | "errors" can mean that one of your post-up lines failed, in which case the interface will be "up" and "working" but ifupdown will think it's unconfigured |
| 22:20.51 | Woet | hm |
| 22:21.41 | Woet | well, i think even if it did it should mention that in the logs |
| 22:21.46 | Woet | but let me try |
| 22:21.55 | Dagger2 | I'm not sure it does :/ |
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| 22:22.15 | Woet | thats what i said, it should :) |
| 22:22.41 | cladmatter | Hi, .. I have just installed Livarp on Virtualbox and loving it..but can't seem to get C-t to work in command. i have typed it every way, or is it short for something else? |
| 22:22.42 | Dagger2 | I remember having to try and get verbose output for ifup once (by manually adding -x to some scripts, I think) |
| 22:22.52 | Woet | not sure what i should do |
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| 22:23.03 | Woet | this has been happening on countless debian servers, it's pretty annoying |
| 22:23.17 | Woet | introduced by squeeze, when the deprecated message came up for /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 22:23.27 | Woet | but i just got networking working without restarting so i'll give it a rest |
| 22:23.32 | php-noob | mumpitzel :O |
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| 22:25.59 | php-noob | mumpitzel: Finally i got. wm8505 LAMP Stack working :) including phpmyadmin |
| 22:26.12 | php-noob | bb |
| 22:26.12 | php-noob | I learn a lot i that way with Debian |
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| 22:27.12 | Archguy | OK guys I need your help, there is something clearly wrong with my Exim4: http://ix.io/7HG :( (Also, redirecting mail through /etc/aliases to @me.com e-mail addresses doesn't seem to work). |
| 22:27.48 | Dagger2 | Woet: you could try this maybe: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cQHQZTWu (I think all that's correct?) |
| 22:28.10 | Woet | to be honest i cant make any more changes, it works now and i would prefer not to touch it again |
| 22:28.14 | Dagger2 | Woet: which is just the same thing converted to `ip route`, since it's neater and I understand it better |
| 22:28.20 | Woet | i appreciate your help though, thanks! |
| 22:29.07 | Dagger2 | Woet: I'm a tad concerned about the v6 route commands you had, since I'm not entirely sure they do the right thing (but then, if your v6 works, I guess they must do?) |
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| 22:29.26 | Woet | yea, i tried pasting them too separately |
| 22:29.29 | Woet | the post-down and post-up ones |
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| 22:29.31 | Woet | they worked fine |
| 22:29.38 | jordilopezamat | hello #debian'ers |
| 22:29.39 | Dagger2 | Woet: also, seriously, screw OVH for their whole "your default router is outside your subnet lol" thing |
| 22:29.46 | Woet | thats true |
| 22:29.54 | Woet | its pretty annoying because debian's installer wont understand |
| 22:30.05 | Dagger2 | Woet: I can MAYBE understand it on v4, where address conservation is an issue. but not on v6, ever |
| 22:30.08 | Woet | so i have to login through terminal, set up /etc/apt/sources, update everything, fix network interfaces, etc |
| 22:30.18 | Woet | oh well, first world problems :) |
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| 22:30.34 | Woet | there is no other affordable provider with working ddos protection i'm afraid |
| 22:30.47 | Dagger2 | no, this is just OVH being idiots |
| 22:30.54 | Dagger2 | they probably think this is a sensible way to do a network |
| 22:31.06 | adh0c | Hey I'm trying to buy a used Lenovo X220 tomorrow, and wanted to see if anyone can advise me of a couple tests to run from a live USB to make sure the machine is good. |
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| 22:31.20 | adh0c | I'm planning to replace the HDD and RAM regardless, so those are inconsequential. |
| 22:31.35 | Dagger2 | (they claim you "get" a "/64", when it's actually a /56 and it's on-link so you aren't even getting it. rage) |
| 22:32.06 | Woet | my actual ISP gave me a /48, pretty neat |
| 22:32.54 | jordilopezamat | As my personal laptop , i have a dual core, 2GB RAM + 120 GB SSD, and Debian 7. I'm puzzled: ... Iv'e read all kind of figures regarding swappiness set (10% , 40-60% ... etc ) ¿ Any hint just for regular use + a small LAMP server for testing running ? |
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| 22:33.21 | Woet | jordilopezamat: why are you touching swappiness? |
| 22:33.29 | Woet | the default is fine |
| 22:33.35 | jordilopezamat | ¿should i let it as it is by default : 60% .. ? Woet |
| 22:33.37 | jordilopezamat | ok... |
| 22:33.40 | Woet | yup |
| 22:33.49 | jordilopezamat | is done :-D |
| 22:34.11 | Woet | you can tune if if you have specific requirements |
| 22:34.13 | Woet | but thats unlikely |
| 22:34.29 | jordilopezamat | Was just that Archlinux guys are suggesting to reduce it at 10% ... when use with a SSD ... |
| 22:34.29 | Woet | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swappiness should help out |
| 22:34.55 | jordilopezamat | http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/SSD_Tuning_for_Linux#Swappiness |
| 22:35.01 | jordilopezamat | i'll read yours ... |
| 22:35.03 | Woet | hm, that would make sense |
| 22:35.13 | jordilopezamat | :-/ so ? |
| 22:35.37 | Woet | it means Debian will keep more things in memory rather than write to disk |
| 22:35.50 | jordilopezamat | is in my case (SSD) default setting still valid ? |
| 22:35.50 | Woet | it means you have less memory free but less disk writes |
| 22:36.33 | Woet | i really think it doesnt make much difference, but if you are concerned about your SSD life set it to 1 |
| 22:37.05 | jordilopezamat | i see... I'm more pro-performance ... the fact is that, now i have 60% swapinness... and 50% memory busy |
| 22:37.17 | Woet | brb |
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| 22:45.14 | nonconvergent | So still trying to figure out a way get PATH modified for xfce and xmonad. I've got a local .cabal that they don't see in the path, which is really annoying. |
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| 22:57.31 | codygman | I installed linux-image-3.10-0.bpo.2-amd64 and everything booted fine, but my backlight brightness according to xbacklight is set to 0.000000. When I try to set it via xbacklight -set 100 it just stays at 0. |
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| 23:00.11 | cafuego | Yeah. Laptops. |
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| 23:00.49 | rootado | hello all |
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| 23:01.44 | rootado | i'm using debian-testing-netinst ISO to install minimal Debian system... |
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| 23:02.28 | rootado | however, if i select regular Install when i boot off CD i'm unable to select any mirror |
| 23:02.40 | rootado | this doesn't happen if i select expert install |
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| 23:08.38 | DANtheBEASTman | Is it normal for nm-applet to not connect to any networks without running it as root? |
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| 23:09.28 | DANtheBEASTman | Because I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's not. |
| 23:09.41 | adh0c | Yeah I wouldn't think so. |
| 23:09.47 | adh0c | Is the suid bit set perhaps? |
| 23:09.59 | DANtheBEASTman | no idea. |
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| 23:10.15 | DANtheBEASTman | if someone could point me in the right direction i'd really appreciate it. |
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| 23:11.38 | chartax | Got a bit of an issue with a PPTP VPN -- anyone got any idea how I can make a configured VPN actually _connect_? It's all setup and ready to go, but can't work out how to actually kick it off! |
| 23:11.56 | chartax | (Forgot to mention: KDE) |
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| 23:13.24 | DANtheBEASTman | I think it started when I stopped using a display manager and using startx |
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| 23:17.24 | rootado | what is the difference between debian CD1 and a netinst image? |
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| 23:19.16 | eb0t | hi i want to install grub2 |
| 23:19.35 | lunchdump | then do it |
| 23:19.39 | eb0t | i have looked on the debian site and it says grub2 dummy package |
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| 23:19.48 | eb0t | i dont understand i want the real grub2 |
| 23:19.55 | eb0t | what is dummy package |
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| 23:20.34 | rootado | what is the difference between debian CD1 and a netinst image? |
| 23:21.04 | Delf | Is xbmc removed from Jessie? |
| 23:23.08 | DANtheBEASTman | eb0t: if you want grub2 then install it. don't worry about dummy packages |
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| 23:24.07 | eb0t | ok dan..i have just loaded debian |
| 23:24.22 | eb0t | and want to get the grub2 as i also loaded centos on antoher partition |
| 23:24.47 | eb0t | so i have not used debian before....just reading up on apt command |
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| 23:25.24 | chartax | @eb0t sudo apt-get install grub2 |
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| 23:25.43 | eb0t | hey thanks ...you just saved me about half an hour |
| 23:25.54 | enkidu | hello. I have troubles starting bluetooth daemon. Starting bluetooth: bluetoothd rfcommQDBusObjectPath: invalid path "" |
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| 23:27.38 | chartax | @eb0t then run sudo update-grub2 |
| 23:27.43 | chartax | and you should be good to go, afaik. |
| 23:28.21 | eb0t | thanks so much for that chartax |
| 23:28.32 | chartax | @eb0t try it first before you thank me lol |
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| 23:28.48 | eb0t | yes :) |
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| 23:34.52 | eb0t | if i wanted a package but did not quite know the name |
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| 23:35.01 | eb0t | how would i search if apt get can find it |
| 23:35.30 | Blivande | i'm trying to boot debian live from a usb stick on a macbook but it just gets to the gnu grub prompt |
| 23:35.50 | Blivande | and i don't kniw what to do from here |
| 23:36.48 | chartax | eb0t, there's a command named apt-cache |
| 23:36.55 | chartax | you can do apt-cache search grub2 |
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| 23:37.17 | CheckDavid | how does one login as guest on Debian? |
| 23:37.21 | eb0t | thanks for that chartAX...IVE JUST FOUND A CHEAT SEET ONLINE |
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| 23:40.13 | chartax | eb0t, no probs. glad to hear you got it resolved, let me know if you need anything |
| 23:41.43 | eb0t | thank you |
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