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| 00:25.44 | wood_quinn | Has anyone ever considered adding a flag to apt letting administrators know "This version is extremely out of date according to upstream, but has no security fixes and hasn't been updated in the repository" ? |
| 00:26.05 | wood_quinn | For those packages that are out of date but don't particularly need/haven't been packaged? |
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| 00:30.10 | abrotman | wood_quinn: apticron and cron-apt |
| 00:30.11 | somiaj | wood_quinn: the debian qa page does that, not sure how easy it would be to integrate into apt. Give me a package example that is outdated |
| 00:30.26 | abrotman | oh .. upstream |
| 00:30.57 | somiaj | I guess the qa page doesn't say how out of date, just that there is a newer upstream version |
| 00:31.15 | wood_quinn | Yeah like say we've got "package-1.0.0" with few users, and less willing to package it, and upstream they're at a three year old "package-1.3.0" |
| 00:31.53 | wood_quinn | Kind of part of the issue with public repos, even though you don't have to maintain all that research and updating yourself, someone else might not be as diligent as you'd like. |
| 00:31.56 | abrotman | it's sort of irrelevant unless someone has the time to package it ? |
| 00:32.57 | somiaj | I think he wants a warning so users realize if they need/want a newer version to go upstream. But that is something I would think users should know/look at in the first place |
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| 00:33.41 | rog1121 | does anyone know how I could run arch inside a VM on debian |
| 00:33.48 | rog1121 | either that or run openvpn on one interface only |
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| 00:34.24 | abrotman | rog1121: just like any other OS in a VM |
| 00:35.00 | wood_quinn | Some_Person, I don't think users should have to look upstream when all it takes is one person notifying the package's responsible-person there's work to be done. |
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| 00:35.36 | wood_quinn | Instead of responsible-person ignoring the work until he/she has time, he/she can verify and flag the package in a fraction of the time needed to build, test, and package it. |
| 00:35.42 | wood_quinn | Kind of like a bug report. |
| 00:35.47 | wood_quinn | Except in apt. |
| 00:36.03 | abrotman | wood_quinn: i'm glad you think packaging just takes a moment |
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| 00:37.03 | abrotman | wood_quinn: a responsible maintainer already knows there is a newer upstream, and if they're not, your notification system does what? |
| 00:39.17 | somiaj | wood_quinn: again give me an example of an outdated upstream package |
| 00:39.34 | wood_quinn | abrotman, A: I never claimed packaging takes just a moment. |
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| 00:39.56 | wood_quinn | B: I'm not talking about responsible maintainers, I'm talking about ones that don't have or don't take the time. |
| 00:40.20 | wood_quinn | somiaj, It's really not relevant whether or not there's an example unless you're going to call me out and say this example never occurs. |
| 00:40.35 | wood_quinn | Anyway, I don't use Debian so I'm gonna go. |
| 00:40.36 | wood_quinn | Just thought it was a good idea. |
| 00:40.46 | abrotman | right, if they're not responsible, what will this do for the users? |
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| 00:43.17 | hanasaki | downloading a file from a browser url... it says apt://vmware-view-client how do yyou get to the actual url? |
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| 00:47.33 | themill | hanasaki: you should ask vmware for their debian packages (not their ubuntu packages) |
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| 00:49.05 | hanasaki | themill: either way... there is no download... just the apt:// protocol url... iceweasel is setup to handle the apturl |
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| 00:50.13 | hanasaki | themill: the main thing is needing a vmware view client that supports pcoip not just rdp |
| 00:50.14 | themill | that doesn't change the fact that you need to ask vmware where to get the debian packages from. |
| 00:51.07 | hanasaki | there is no reason why I shouldn't be able to use debian to download an ubuntu package or even a windows one |
| 00:51.52 | abrotman | hanasaki: what application should interpret apt:// ? |
| 00:51.57 | themill | Sure. And there's no way we would know where vmware have stuck their packages. |
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| 00:56.33 | hanasaki | abrotman: all the docs say apturl - iceweasel is configured to support it however says protocol not supported |
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| 00:57.11 | abrotman | hanasaki: there's not apturl package in Debian |
| 00:57.15 | themill | hanasaki: you would need to configure iceweasel to use the handler and also configure apt to use the right repository. That second step requires you to talk to vmware. Please do so. |
| 00:57.30 | abrotman | judd: versions apturl |
| 00:57.31 | judd | No package named 'apturl' was found in i386. |
| 00:58.02 | hanasaki | hmmm its configured in about:config |
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| 01:00.42 | abrotman | or you can keep arguing |
| 01:00.45 | hanasaki | searchs show apt and handler: /usr/bin/gambas-apt.gambas. which looks more for development |
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| 01:01.16 | themill | hanasaki: apt is not configured in about:config. Please talk to vmware. |
| 01:01.17 | abrotman | hanasaki: you cannot use that for Debian, a) stop trying b) get the correct package source for *Debian* from VMWare |
| 01:02.19 | gnarface | its 2013 anyway i don't understand why anyone would be punishing themselves trying to use vmware still |
| 01:02.38 | gnarface | you gotta co-exist with windows 95 or what? |
| 01:03.09 | abrotman | not important, he wants it .. no need to start another pointless argument |
| 01:03.25 | gnarface | fair enough |
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| 01:58.08 | alkumaish | debian6 on a Xen VPS. why char devices like /dev/ppp is not created automatically when kernel modules are loaded? |
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| 01:59.24 | wood_quinn | Is it possible to write multiple isohybrid DVD images to one USB drive? |
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| 02:03.46 | daya | what is the role of PE on creating LVM? |
| 02:04.09 | daya | Could I have more that 8 TB with default 4MB PE |
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| 02:08.29 | hanasaki | thanks abrotman |
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| 02:09.16 | hanasaki | is there a way to force a package to install if one of its dependencies has a version mismatch?? |
| 02:09.43 | somiaj | wood_quinn: what is the desire? Are you wanting multiple bootable images, or just wanting all the dvds in one place? |
| 02:09.53 | wood_quinn | Why not just upgrade the dependency? |
| 02:09.54 | somiaj | wood_quinn: that would depend on the method you want to use. |
| 02:10.14 | wood_quinn | I can either use 700M (CD1) on a 4G drive, 3.8G (DVD1) on a 4G drive, or 11.4G (DVD1, DVD2, DVD3) on a 16G. |
| 02:10.24 | somiaj | hanasaki: you should not be experincing that in debian. But man dpkg and look for force if you want to most likely break things. |
| 02:10.54 | wood_quinn | So I wondered if there was any way to place all three package sources on one drive, should I really feel a need. |
| 02:11.23 | somiaj | wood_quinn: well if you just want all the dvd's on a single drive, just put a file system on it and copy the .iso to the drive (you can mount the file system via loopback) my hope is apt-cdrom can deal with iso files, one second |
| 02:12.14 | themill | hanasaki: perhaps you should stop installing packages that aren't designed for your release. |
| 02:12.15 | wood_quinn | somiaj, I'd still want the first image to be bootable, of course. |
| 02:12.19 | abrotman | hanasaki: why are you determined to break your system? |
| 02:12.29 | wood_quinn | Otherwise I'd just put each DVD or CD on a filesystem. |
| 02:12.51 | somiaj | wood_quinn: there are methods of putting a custom grub on the mbr of the usb drive and boot from the dvd drive |
| 02:13.07 | wood_quinn | I have network connectivity, so I don't have real need to have 11.4G of software on-hand. |
| 02:13.26 | abrotman | so just use the netinst? |
| 02:13.53 | wood_quinn | Yeah. |
| 02:13.56 | somiaj | wood_quinn: I know the squeeze live usbhdd images would allow you to partition the rest of the space on the usb drive as a file system. I am unsure if the default debian .iso's do that though |
| 02:14.03 | wood_quinn | I don't want to have to download packages every install though. |
| 02:14.07 | abrotman | wood_quinn: alternately, use the multiarch installer |
| 02:14.16 | abrotman | so why mention having internet? |
| 02:14.21 | themill | or use a caching proxy |
| 02:14.44 | wood_quinn | Just clarifying that the question is based on curiosity, not need. |
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| 02:19.48 | somiaj | wood_quinn: yes it is possible, but I think would require some work. Easiest would be two usbs one for the bootable installer the other for the dvd iso images. |
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| 02:35.27 | seekr | I want to install win7 ultimate onto an IDE drive in a machine upon which I plan to install Linux on a SATA drive. The IDE drive has GRUB installed, so the GRUB bootloader is in the MBR. I want to be able to go on using GRUB on that drive and to select which system to boot into (an oldish version of Debian, windoze and whatever new Linux I install (which may well be the current version of Debian, or else Linux Mint, which is based on Debian)). I'd like to |
| 02:35.27 | seekr | preserve the present contents of the MBR and think I can do it using "dd" - I'm uncertain of how much I have to copy into a file so I can restore the MBR contents after the windoze installer overwrites it. |
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| 02:36.39 | dvs | !fix mbr |
| 02:36.39 | dpkg | takes mbr to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 02:36.46 | dvs | heh |
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| 02:37.13 | seekr | dvs: Is that bang a shell escape or what? |
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| 02:37.51 | dvs | !mbrfix |
| 02:37.52 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 02:38.20 | seekr | dvs: ah |
| 02:39.25 | seekr | dvs: where did you get that text? I'd like to follow those links at the end. Thanks. |
| 02:39.36 | abrotman | seekr: /msg dpkg foo |
| 02:39.37 | alkumaish | what creates char devices on squeeze? shouldn't they be created automatically when the appropriate kernel module is loaded? |
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| 02:45.34 | somiaj | alkumaish: squeeze has udev, so yes it should |
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| 02:47.55 | alkumaish | somiaj: weird... it doesn't. I loaded ppp_* modules but no /dev/ppp was created |
| 02:48.20 | daya | Could any one tell me the role of PE in LVM? |
| 02:49.06 | daya | I am rather confused wheter we can create the logical volume of size more than 8 TB with 4 MB PE size |
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| 02:50.55 | SirLagz | daya: 4MB Physical Extents are just the size of the blocks |
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| 02:51.08 | SirLagz | daya: You can have as many block as will fit on a hard drive |
| 02:51.12 | somiaj | alkumaish: check dmesg, see anything of use? |
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| 02:51.46 | alkumaish | somiaj: I checked already. no errors, just messages that kernel modules were loaded without problems |
| 02:52.27 | somiaj | alkumaish: I don't know enough aboutt those devices to be of much more help. |
| 02:52.38 | daya | SirLagz: yeah, that mean what is the role of these PE, |
| 02:52.55 | alkumaish | somiaj: lol.. thanks anyway ;) |
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| 02:53.26 | SirLagz | daya: the PEs are just the building blocks |
| 02:53.37 | SirLagz | daya: you can assign a number of PEs to a logical volume |
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| 02:54.01 | SirLagz | physical volumes* |
| 02:54.02 | SirLagz | not logical |
| 02:54.30 | daya | SirLagz: Actually my confusion is, does the size of PE affect the maximum size of Logical Volume, |
| 02:54.39 | SirLagz | daya: nope |
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| 02:55.41 | daya | SirLagz: but some where I read, 4 MB PE can support only upto 8 TB LVM |
| 02:56.50 | SirLagz | daya: I wasn't aware of such a limit |
| 02:56.59 | SirLagz | daya: but my knowledge of LVM is somewhat limited |
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| 03:02.39 | L-Chymera1 | hi guys, I have a ntfs partition I think I messed up over her e(but just the very start of the volume) how can I look for files on what remains? I remember there was some command that gave you text output in which you could look for stuff which resembled files |
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| 03:04.12 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: testdisk possibly? |
| 03:06.46 | L-Chymera1 | ctcpme: good idea :) is gpart also good for that? |
| 03:06.58 | jwilliams1 | is there any tool other than gnuplot that can draw diagram? |
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| 03:07.47 | L-Chymera1 | jwilliams1: matplotlib if you'Re willing to script a bit |
| 03:08.58 | anonnumberanon | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.34 | anonnumberanon | (In order mostly to know when my internet dies and at what speed I am exchanging data.) |
| 03:09.57 | jwilliams1 | L-Chymera1: thanks. but if the user doesn't know scripting. any other recommendation? |
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| 03:11.54 | L-Chymera1 | jwilliams1: there may be some simplistic GUI things out there, I remember using something called leybnitz a few years back |
| 03:13.09 | L-Chymera1 | but honestly, matplotlib uses ridiculously simple python scripting - check their website for dozens of tutorials with pretty figure examples etc. |
| 03:13.40 | somiaj | anonnumberanon: there are various system monintors. If you are using gnome I belive you can right click the bar and look though the applets |
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| 03:14.06 | somiaj | anonnumberanon: you most likely have the gnome-applets package installed |
| 03:14.14 | ctcpme | anonnumberanon: what somiaj said, and everyone seems to have a love affair with conky |
| 03:14.31 | somiaj | ctcpme: I like xosview myself, works nicely with fvwm |
| 03:15.27 | jwilliams1 | L-Chymera1: get it. thank you. : ) |
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| 03:16.20 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: gpart is just going to be for partitioning |
| 03:16.24 | anonnumberanon | somiaj, I used to have Gnome but now I use it and Xfce mostly but I'd love solutions for both DEs. |
| 03:16.35 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: how much of the disk did you mess up, here, and how? |
| 03:16.39 | anonnumberanon | Ill lool at conky in my pacmanager.' |
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| 03:16.56 | ctcpme | somiaj: xosview, huh, i'll have to check that out |
| 03:17.17 | somiaj | jwilliams1: mathplotlib is nice, though I use it as part of sagemath which isn't small at all |
| 03:17.50 | somiaj | anonnumberanon: yea there are various system monintors you can get. conky can monintor about everything. Also pacmanager? that doens't sound like debian. |
| 03:18.25 | themill | jwilliams1: do you mean plot data or draw a diagram? |
| 03:18.44 | anonnumberanon | somiaj I meant package manager, I use Synaptic. |
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| 03:18.56 | dox | how do I figure out the gmp/libgmp version in debian? |
| 03:19.19 | somiaj | dox: dpkg -l | grep gmp |
| 03:19.22 | dox | ty |
| 03:19.55 | jwilliams1 | somiaj: i agree. i read some examples that can perform animation which looks nice. |
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| 03:20.03 | somiaj | dox: that is if it is installed, if it is not installed, apt-cache show <package name> and apt-cache policy <package name> will give you th elist of the various versions you could install (debian stable is fronzen so it should only have a possible security update) |
| 03:20.45 | themill | dox, somiaj: «dpkg -l '*gmp*'» covers both the installed and uninstalled cases. |
| 03:21.17 | jwilliams1 | themill: basically is to draw e.g. chart that can visualize result explaining other people in a short time. |
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| 03:21.50 | somiaj | themill: I didn't think dpkg knew about packages installable though apt. |
| 03:22.07 | dox | looks like my libgmp is super old is there an easy way to update it? |
| 03:22.16 | somiaj | dox: what version of debian are you running? |
| 03:23.07 | dox | Description:Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.7 (squeeze) |
| 03:23.07 | themill | dox: 5.0.5 isn't really "super old" at all |
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| 03:24.37 | themill | dox: you might like to consider upgrading from squeeze to wheezy then. /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
| 03:24.38 | L-Chymera1 | ctcpme: I think only the start of the volume |
| 03:24.49 | anonnumberanon | I was thinking of a dowstream and upstream indicator more like this: http://www.floriangilles.com/software/netspeedmonitor/ |
| 03:24.58 | L-Chymera1 | ctcpme: I wanted to print from it via a directly-from-USB printer |
| 03:24.59 | dox | ok thanks guys |
| 03:25.01 | anonnumberanon | How can I get that? |
| 03:25.12 | L-Chymera1 | you know, these things where you put your memory stick inside |
| 03:25.12 | themill | jwilliams1: chart as in data in an xy-plot? or pie-chart? or ...? |
| 03:25.28 | themill | jwilliams1: each different plotting tool has its own strengths as weaknesses |
| 03:25.31 | themill | dpkg: tell jwilliams1 about plotting |
| 03:25.36 | seekr | Well, I'm sure there's a cleaner way to do it (thanks again to dvs and abrotman), but I think I've determined that the MRB extends for 77000-1 (octal) bytes from the start of the physical disk, so "dd ibs=32256 if=/dev/hda of=mbrimage count=1" seems to do what I want. Any objections, suggestions, etc? |
| 03:25.55 | seekr | *MBR |
| 03:27.16 | jwilliams1 | themill: basically is for xy time series. thanks for the plotting information. |
| 03:28.02 | themill | jwilliams1: if it's time in seconds or minutes then any of them do OK. If it's clock times or dates then most graphing programs do pretty badly. |
| 03:28.27 | themill | jwilliams1: dpkg's list includes commandline, scripted and clicky programs some of which are also cross-platform if that helps |
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| 03:29.14 | themill | jwilliams1: also http://blends.alioth.debian.org/science/tasks/viewing |
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| 03:34.55 | jwilliams1 | themill: that link provides many software. am checking it. great thanks. |
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| 03:37.47 | themill | jwilliams1: for a clicky interface, I guess I'd recommend scidavis, qtiplot or grace. (Grace is the least pretty but makes the best plots). Personally, I use pyx for publications and matplotlib for fiddling about. |
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| 03:41.37 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: lol, sorry, it amuses me to think that a printer would chew it up |
| 03:42.03 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: does it still have partitions at least? |
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| 03:43.48 | L-Chymera1 | ctcpme: gparted doesn't see a thing - testdisk seems to have detected something |
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| 03:45.05 | jwilliams1 | themill: playing a bit with grace (http://www.gutizz.com/grace-xy-plotting-tool/) that looks simpler if I want to introducing to people doesn't know much about script. great~ |
| 03:45.13 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: yeah it probably at least chewed up the partition table, then, but run it through testdisk and see what it has to say about it |
| 03:45.38 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: could be lucky and it could just be the partition table/mbr, but the filesystem is still cool |
| 03:46.11 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: or a little worse and it wiped out the mbr and beginning of the filesystem, but i think testdisk will try to rebuild ntfs from backup blocks if it can |
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| 03:46.49 | themill | jwilliams1: http://plasma-gate.weizmann.ac.il/Grace/ |
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| 03:49.10 | themill | jwilliams1: if you need to add extra annotations to the plots then dumping them out as a PDF or SVG and importing them into inkscape works well. |
| 03:49.22 | jwilliams1 | themill: yeah. downloading/ installing from debian. running and creating diagram from data. simpler enough. |
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| 03:50.31 | L-Chymera1 | ctcpme: maybe I am doing something wrong, but the testdisk output is very... lacking, meaning it tells me nothing, it asks me whether it should add a new partition |
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| 03:51.41 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: i don't run through testdisk very often, so i'm a bit iffy on everything it tells you |
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| 03:52.08 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: but if the partition table's been clobbered and you can't see a partition table, then it's either let testdisk add a new partition or recreate it yourself |
| 03:52.33 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: testdisk should only touch the partition table at that point, it's relatively safe |
| 03:53.05 | austeregrim_ | L-Chymera1, I'd make sure you've dd the drive to an image first |
| 03:53.51 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: yeah, austeregrim's got a good point |
| 03:54.00 | austeregrim_ | and play with the image file only... make a copy of the image too so if you do screw up something you still have a backup |
| 03:54.11 | L-Chymera1 | austeregrim_: yesh, I did that |
| 03:54.29 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: oh well then hell yeah, let testdisk recreate the partition |
| 03:54.43 | L-Chymera1 | ctcpme: so adding a partition via testdisk doesn't mena it didn't find anything and it will delete everything? |
| 03:55.27 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: no i'm pretty sure testdisk will just touch the partition table at that step, it's trying to tell you that there isn't a partition table so it's going to try and create one |
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| 03:55.48 | ctcpme | L-Chymera1: once the partition table is created, then you have a partition you can mount and try to see if there's still a filesystem there |
| 03:55.56 | L-Chymera1 | does this look like testdisk found anything/will recover anything http://paste2.org/vnDgkBZ5 - why doesn't it say anything after scanning my disk for 20 mins |
| 03:55.57 | L-Chymera1 | ? |
| 03:56.50 | austeregrim_ | theres no partitions |
| 03:57.23 | austeregrim_ | you may need to let it scan until it's done scaning |
| 03:57.43 | austeregrim_ | I've had testdisk scan a drive for hours. |
| 03:58.32 | Rusty1 | the deeper search has been tried? http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step#A_partition_is_still_missing:_Deeper_Search |
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| 04:18.27 | jetscreamer | how does one change the gdm theme |
| 04:18.33 | jetscreamer | gdm3 |
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| 04:22.50 | gustavold | is it possible to install debian (network install) over wifi? |
| 04:23.15 | somiaj | gustavold: you will need a non-free installer image most likely |
| 04:24.04 | gustavold | somiaj: it asks me to attach a removable media with firmware files, but the installer doesn't seem to recognize the files on my USB stick |
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| 04:24.24 | somiaj | !firmware images |
| 04:24.24 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 04:24.40 | somiaj | gustavold: just download the non-free firmware image, it should have the firmware on it already |
| 04:25.16 | austeregrim_ | gustavold, if you mean pxe boot? no the network card (and bios) need to support it... and wifi cards don't have pxe (at least what I've seen) |
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| 04:25.56 | gustavold | austeregrim_: no, I mean net network install images, no pxe |
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| 04:26.35 | austeregrim_ | gustavold, ok carry on. |
| 04:26.44 | gustavold | somiaj: that is cool, I think I will download one of those non-free images, thanks@ |
| 04:27.01 | austeregrim_ | the net install does ask for wifi drivers if you have them |
| 04:27.25 | somiaj | problem is they lack the firmware by default. |
| 04:27.30 | somiaj | (for most wifis) |
| 04:28.14 | austeregrim_ | yeah, but the standard install does ask for the files if you have them on you. |
| 04:28.18 | gustavold | austeregrim_: it does, but the installer doesn't seem to recognize the firmware files in my USB stick |
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| 04:28.37 | austeregrim_ | gustavold, yeah... i know |
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| 04:37.17 | elkingrey | I installed lightspark by compiling from source, but then I run dpkg --status lightspark and it tells me it is not installed. Does dpkg --status only search for what is installed from my repo? Lightspark does not show as installed in synaptic. Is it supposed to? Or no? I'm confused. |
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| 04:39.00 | somiaj | elkingrey: dpkg does not know of software that is not installed via a debian package, .deb |
| 04:39.01 | themill | elkingrey: dpkg manages debian packages |
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| 04:39.30 | somiaj | elkingrey: if you compiled from source and then installed with 'make install' it copied things to your system outside of dpkg's knowledge. Hopefully it put it in /usr/local has to not conflict with debians packages. |
| 04:40.04 | somiaj | note you can use stow to manage such software or even make your own .deb |
| 04:40.35 | elkingrey | somiaj: It put lightspark in /usr/local/bin |
| 04:40.40 | FluxD | What should be correct settings for files being served from /var/www |
| 04:40.43 | elkingrey | thank for the info |
| 04:40.48 | FluxD | should they be owned bu root or www-data? |
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| 04:41.14 | somiaj | elkingrey: yea stuff in /usr/local will live just fine with debian, as debian packages should not be messing with anything there. |
| 04:41.25 | elkingrey | cool. |
| 04:41.58 | somiaj | FluxD: if they are readable by www-data it shouldn't matter who owns them (that way indviduiadal users can own them to edit them) |
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| 04:42.19 | somiaj | FluxD: if you want to make a directory in which the webserver can upload files to, then yes you need writable to www-data |
| 04:42.45 | FluxD | somiaj, if files in there are owned by root, is that a security risk ? |
| 04:43.27 | somiaj | FluxD: Does the person who is in charge of managing the web data secure? He will have to have root access to edit them most likely |
| 04:44.16 | FluxD | somiaj, I am that person :p I was wondering if files owned by root can be exploited to get hacked or something? |
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| 04:44.50 | somiaj | not that I can see. But having to be root to edit files isn't the best of pratices in my opinion. |
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| 04:48.09 | gustavold | still in the no-firmware-installer, I opened a VT and watched syslog while the installer was trying to find my firmware on "removable media"... the installer is trying to mount anything on the system on /media looking for something familiar |
| 04:48.40 | gustavold | it does try /dev/sdc, which is my USB stick, but doesn't try /dev/sdb1, which would be the correct thing to do |
| 04:49.27 | gustavold | s/sdb1/sdc1/ |
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| 04:51.56 | themill | gustavold: how are you putting the iso image onto the usb stick? |
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| 04:52.53 | gustavold | themill: I have 2 USB sticks, I put the iso image onto sdb using dd |
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| 04:53.07 | gustavold | sdc has a fat partition |
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| 04:53.36 | gustavold | I fooled the installer and manually mounted /dev/sdc1 on /media... the installer managed to copy my firmware :) |
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| 04:53.57 | aypea[1] | now now. it has a dimentionally enhanced partition. be nice. |
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| 04:54.58 | gustavold | I'm not supposed to dd the image onto the USB stick? |
| 04:55.34 | themill | Nah that should be fine. People keep trying tools like unetbootin that don't work most of the time |
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| 04:56.21 | Axlin | dd works fine. I do it all the time. |
| 04:57.00 | gustavold | uhuuu!!! the workaround worked. it identified my wifi card :) |
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| 05:15.59 | gustavold | I have 2 EFI partitions, one with Windows (I want to keep it intact) and one with Fedora's bootloader (I want to overwrite it) |
| 05:15.59 | gustavold | the installer doesn't seem to allow me to select which EFI partition it should use |
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| 05:18.52 | rog1121 | has anyone here had experience with running couchpotato on debian? |
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| 05:28.35 | MekkaGodzilla | couchpotato? is that a procrastination simulator? |
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| 05:29.28 | somiaj | seems like a torent thing. |
| 05:30.26 | MekkaGodzilla | I found this guide for ubuntu, should work just fine. http://www.linuxplained.com/install-couchpotato-v2-on-ubuntu/ |
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| 05:31.54 | somiaj | yea it just a python script and that suggests installing it in $HOME so it should work just fine |
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| 05:48.06 | gustavold | the installer put the bootloader side by side with the windows bootloader on the same efi partition |
| 05:48.47 | gustavold | it worked fine at first, but after I booted windows it doesn't boot grub anymore... it goes directly to windows |
| 05:48.49 | gustavold | =/ |
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| 05:49.52 | jetscreamer | it obviously fixed itself |
| 05:50.09 | gustavold | heh |
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| 05:51.28 | jetscreamer | boot a rescue cd and reinstall grub |
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| 05:52.07 | jetscreamer | not reinstall the program but run grub-install |
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| 05:52.36 | jetscreamer | never run the rescue, not sure if there's an option to do that or if you have to do it manually |
| 05:53.00 | jetscreamer | lots of other ppl know more about it, just wait if you need to |
| 05:54.59 | jetscreamer | !tell gustavold -about fixmbr |
| 05:55.08 | folivora | Gday, http://pastie.org/8315985 <- any idea of this error |
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| 05:55.37 | folivora | fresh install of squeeze ( yes I know that squeeze is old, but some calculations softs need squeeze ) |
| 05:56.13 | gustavold | jetscreamer: thanks |
| 05:57.25 | themill | folivora: is there anything odd about the way users are created on your system? |
| 05:57.57 | themill | or did you perhaps already create a user or group 'messagebus'? |
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| 06:02.13 | folivora | themill: no and no :) |
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| 06:02.36 | folivora | getent group |grep messagebus gives nothing |
| 06:02.54 | themill | hey! that was my next question! slow down! |
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| 06:03.02 | folivora | ;) |
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| 06:03.12 | folivora | This is odd |
| 06:03.13 | folivora | ... |
| 06:03.14 | folivora | grr |
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| 06:04.24 | themill | perhaps you could add "set -x" to the top of /var/lib/dpkg/info/dbus.postinst and "dpkg --configure dbus" to see what is failing |
| 06:05.06 | themill | folivora: the adduser package is installed and / hasn't gone readonly or something has it? |
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| 06:14.39 | snover | I have a machine where there are sources.list.d entries for oldstable, stable, testing, and dotdeb. It is running oldstable and other releases are pinned to a lower value except for a couple of particular packages. When I run apt-get update, it downloads packages lists for all the releases successfully, but then when I ask apt-cache policy which package files it is using, it only shows oldstable and dotdeb. I can’t find any information searching about |
| 06:15.17 | somiaj | snover: sounds like you have a mess and shoudln't mix things like that |
| 06:15.40 | snover | I have no mess. This works fine on several other machines. It is a mystery what is going on in this one particular case. |
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| 06:16.10 | snover | I mean, no mess I am aware of |
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| 06:18.15 | snover | the most bizarre thing is that *apt-get* seems to see everything, only apt-cache does not |
| 06:18.33 | snover | for example if I change stable to pin at the same level as oldstable it prompts to upgrade a bunch of packages |
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| 06:18.57 | snover | but apt-cache policy says that there is only one candidate for those packages it is upgrading, and it is the candidate that is already installed |
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| 06:35.25 | snover | I will check back later. |
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| 06:47.16 | DarsVaeda | where are apt sources definied? /etc/apt/sources.list and ...? |
| 06:47.36 | DarsVaeda | I get duplicate entries warnings and look where I can remove them |
| 06:48.08 | PParth | DarsVaeda |
| 06:48.15 | PParth | also look inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory |
| 06:48.23 | PParth | each file from there is also parsed |
| 06:48.38 | DarsVaeda | ah okay thanks |
| 06:48.51 | PParth | nws |
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| 06:52.21 | CountryfiedLinux | According to http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/xserver-xorg-video-intel my graphics card should work in debian but it doesn't work right. I'm confused o_O |
| 06:52.45 | h1nd | hello everybody.On a host I am using DebianWheezy7 and ispconfig3 which is using the bastille-firewall. My fail2ban config seems to work fine,as I tested: an (for example) ssh attacker is banned and fail2ban writes this correctly. But... |
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| 06:53.35 | h1nd | the firewall seems not to block and I dont understand why. "iptables -L" and "bastille-netfilter status" both show me that the IP is in their rules. But it doesnt work |
| 06:53.50 | h1nd | any clues what's going wrong and how to troubleshoot that? |
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| 07:09.20 | sephii | hey there, I'm about to install Debian on a netbook. Any suggestion on which DE to use? kde-plasma-netbook? gnome3? cinnamon? |
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| 07:13.20 | _p0g0_ | ...since i assume its fairly underpowered you may wanna try xfce |
| 07:13.28 | laidback_01 | sephii: I'm going to buy a car. Any suggestion which vehicle I should get ? |
| 07:14.33 | sephii | laidback_01: the question would rather be "I need a car with low fuel consumption, any suggestion/feedback on the 4 existing models?" |
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| 07:16.23 | laidback_01 | still doesn't ask how I intend to drive the car, where I'll use it, etc. But were I to use a linux on a netbook, it'd most likely be LMDE (linux mint debian edition). And I'd try to use lxde if I could still get that. |
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| 07:18.17 | jb_ | I'm trying to install debian as a guest (kvm/qemu/libvirt) on a headless host. I've looked into preseeding (not entierly what I want), modifying the *.iso to use serial instead of the curses/vga etc. But I can't seem to get it to work. Any pointers/good FAQ's etc. I could read? Maybe someone here has done exactly what I'm after? |
| 07:19.56 | jb_ | It does work if I start the install via vnc and then switch over to serial or "continue installation over ssh". But both these demands that I use vnc, which I don't want. |
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| 07:20.58 | laidback_01 | what O/S is the host? |
| 07:21.08 | jb_ | debian testing |
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| 07:21.35 | laidback_01 | and you wish to virtualize another debian inside it then? |
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| 07:21.45 | jb_ | jup, amongst other os'es |
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| 07:23.15 | laidback_01 | okay, well, if the other O/S's are just other linuxes, you might consider Linux Containers, they are pretty coold |
| 07:23.42 | laidback_01 | in fact, for the linuxes, you might want to use Linux containers since they are so effecient - think advanced chroot |
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| 07:24.22 | drunkez | coold:) |
| 07:24.33 | laidback_01 | anyway, as to how to install them via a headless env. that's a tough one I think. |
| 07:24.40 | jb_ | yeah I know about LXC and I intend to use that too. But I will have guests with unix/win/linux/plan9 and all different kinds of kernels, which as far as I know is not possible with containers |
| 07:25.07 | laidback_01 | no, that's true, they won't work in lxc |
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| 07:25.44 | jb_ | It can't be THAT hard can it :P I have banged my head against 4000 pages of manuals, guides and all kinds of stuff the last day or so, but haven't come closer to a all headless install |
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| 07:26.03 | laidback_01 | it's funny, I use virtualization a lot - but my servers are all freebsd, so jails where I can, and VirtualBox for the rest of it. I just use ssh -X and display the X gooides on my debian desktop |
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| 07:27.30 | laidback_01 | I guess I don't quite get the problem you are facing. you have a machine that's a server, or will be a virtualization server. Why can't you just display the X window stuf on your desktop where you work off of? VNC is a strange solution to that problem. |
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| 07:29.10 | jb_ | Ok, the "requirement" is: Server - Headless, MINIMAL stuff on it for running virtualization (preferably not even X). Everything done via ssh. |
| 07:29.18 | laidback_01 | and, if you have ssh, and are just doing console only stuff, why even use X? |
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| 07:29.30 | laidback_01 | okay, that's easy then. |
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| 07:30.02 | jb_ | is it? I've tried all I can think of and all need some kind of X/VNC on the host |
| 07:30.20 | laidback_01 | No, you shouldn't |
| 07:30.39 | jb_ | I've _tried_ to modify the .iso to just go into serial mode, but I obviously don't understand that well enough to get it right |
| 07:31.01 | laidback_01 | but if the virtualization software you use runs a GUI - like mine does (virtualbox), you'll need to display the X console on the remote machine where oyu work |
| 07:31.07 | laidback_01 | at least for the install |
| 07:31.21 | laidback_01 | then you can run your instances as minimal as you like |
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| 07:31.49 | jb_ | I use qemu/kvm/libvirt, so they don't need any graphics |
| 07:31.51 | rryoumaa | how do you guys learn about the different virtualization things? investigating each one? |
| 07:32.03 | laidback_01 | I mean, to install Windows in a virt env, you need to use the mouse and visual queues, etc. |
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| 07:32.44 | jb_ | Yeah, I know that I will have to do it for windows etc. but for debian I would think it would be easy peasy to get it running totally headlessly. But I'm missing something |
| 07:32.55 | laidback_01 | hmm |
| 07:33.04 | laidback_01 | I've never had to use a graphical install for debian |
| 07:33.09 | laidback_01 | it's always been a console install |
| 07:33.37 | laidback_01 | so I'd assume you SSH over to the server, fire up qemu with the iso boot, and just step through the prompts |
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| 07:33.47 | jb_ | well, the grub menu doesn't show up on the serial console at least. |
| 07:34.01 | jb_ | Maybe I'm setting the whole thing up wrong |
| 07:34.04 | laidback_01 | okay wait |
| 07:34.12 | laidback_01 | this server, has no monitor, right? |
| 07:34.17 | laidback_01 | no keyboard either? |
| 07:34.30 | laidback_01 | are you able to SSH to it? |
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| 07:34.37 | jb_ | well, it _does_. But I intend to hide it in a corner somewhere |
| 07:34.53 | laidback_01 | okay, so lets pretend that all that stuff is gone right now |
| 07:34.59 | jb_ | (in fact, since I'm playing with it, I'm on it right no) |
| 07:34.59 | laidback_01 | how do you access your machine? |
| 07:35.02 | jb_ | ssh |
| 07:35.16 | laidback_01 | okay, do you ssh in from a windows machine or a linux box? |
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| 07:35.47 | jb_ | win8 as of now. But soon enough linux |
| 07:35.50 | laidback_01 | what I'm getting at, you seem to be trying to make this more complicated than it needs be. |
| 07:36.05 | jb_ | I'm quite sure that I'm missing something =) |
| 07:36.14 | laidback_01 | okay, so put putty on the win8 machine, ssh over, run your qemu boot sequence |
| 07:36.19 | laidback_01 | don't try to do serial |
| 07:36.28 | laidback_01 | it should all just display on the putty console fine. |
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| 07:36.47 | jb_ | rryoumaa: I'm just playing around with what ever I can find in way virtualization. LXC, Virtualbox, KVM/QEMU etc. |
| 07:37.28 | laidback_01 | rryoumaa: most of it's free to try out and play with anyway, so why not? |
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| 07:38.18 | rryoumaa | maybe they are more plug and play than i thought they were |
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| 07:38.45 | jb_ | Yup, I'm just doing all this as an exercise. I have no "real" application for it, yet. Later on I will use it to do some benchmarking of my company's products, just for fun ofc. =) |
| 07:39.17 | rryoumaa | i was trying to encapsulate iceweasel, and got bogged down |
| 07:39.55 | rryoumaa | but i never tried one |
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| 07:41.24 | laidback_01 | one of the cooler uses of virtualization/isolation I've seen is this : http://www.qube-os.com/ it's neat in it's own way. Perhaps not everyone's favorite idea, but still cool |
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| 07:42.20 | laidback_01 | Oh, dang, that's NOT what I mean |
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| 07:42.35 | laidback_01 | that's a cloud pc, not the thing I meant to share... |
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| 07:44.15 | laidback_01 | this is what I meant: http://qubes-os.org/trac/wiki |
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| 07:47.04 | jb_ | laidback_01: cool idea. I tried just the bare to get the putty console to work, and it doesn't. Here's my test-setup: paste.debian.net/hidden/6b082c47 |
| 07:48.43 | laidback_01 | well, okay, lets start simple then |
| 07:49.03 | laidback_01 | since you are on the server itself, you have a keyboard and mouse, what's it take to run it there? |
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| 07:49.27 | wildanimal | hey guys, i've been having a problem i wanted to ask about |
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| 07:50.40 | wildanimal | it only happens occasionally, but about once a week or so my entire system freezes completely. in most cases i can't even move the mouse, let alone switch to a tty* terminal. Since my only option at that point is to restart the entire machine, i have no idea how to go about finding/solving the problem |
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| 07:50.54 | wildanimal | i'm running debian wheezy with xfce 4.8 |
| 07:50.55 | jb_ | laidback_01: '--graphics vnc' is the only way I've manged to make it work |
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| 07:51.27 | wildanimal | as far as i know restarting the machine clears the dmesg logs so i really don't know what i could do to find the problem |
| 07:51.53 | gnude | wildanimal: the content of dmesg is in syslog too when i remeber right |
| 07:52.58 | wildanimal | oh cool, i didn't know that |
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| 07:53.17 | wildanimal | thanks i'll have a look inside and see if it says anything interesting |
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| 07:53.23 | colo-work | wildanimal, does your machine have a working serial port? |
| 07:54.00 | colo-work | if so, enable the serial console. you WILL get debug info out of it that way, even if your machine shoots itself in the food so gravely that dmesg output won't make it to your syslog daemon, or from there to the filesystem |
| 07:54.01 | wildanimal | colo-work: not that i know of, i have a thinkpad t520 |
| 07:54.17 | laidback_01 | jb_: there's something screwy with your virtualization prog then. you'll want to see about a non-serial console option |
| 07:54.21 | colo-work | I see. there's also netconsole, which does the very same thing via UDP/IP |
| 07:54.26 | colo-work | but it doesn't work as reliably |
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| 07:54.49 | laidback_01 | what I'm telling you isn't wrong. you should be able to just run a debian install disc from tty0-tty6 with no issue. |
| 07:54.59 | laidback_01 | and if you can do that, then an ssh connection will work fine. |
| 07:55.02 | colo-work | wildanimal, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Netconsole |
| 07:55.07 | wildanimal | colo-work: thanks, i'll look into it |
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| 07:55.46 | laidback_01 | so, were I you, I'd try to this: press Ctrl-Alt-F1, jump to tty0 that way, Ctrl-Alt-F7 to get back to X, anyway, run it in that raw console till you get it to run there |
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| 07:56.05 | laidback_01 | don't worry about the remote crap until you can get debian to actually boot in qemu or whatnot |
| 07:56.15 | laidback_01 | from the local console that is. |
| 07:56.24 | laidback_01 | once that's working, shell in, run the same command. |
| 07:56.56 | laidback_01 | the problem is certainly not in the remote connection at this point - the problem is getting the ISO to boot and display as you'd expect. |
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| 07:58.21 | jb_ | That's actually what I've started out with =) |
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| 07:59.02 | jb_ | I guess I'll just ask in libvirt and see what they say about it. It seems like I have some parameters wrong |
| 07:59.11 | laidback_01 | okay, so if you are using vnc display, that's strange. you should not need to do that. I'm not a qemu guy, so I can't help that much I don't think |
| 07:59.34 | laidback_01 | sorry I can't help! |
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| 07:59.45 | jb_ | You've helped a lot =) |
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| 08:27.39 | nonconvergent | wine-bin isn't in wheezy, correct? just a virtual package that points to nothing? |
| 08:27.57 | nonconvergent | Or at least, on 64bit. |
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| 08:30.26 | nonconvergent | Ah, now I remember how you guys did it. |
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| 08:44.56 | n_np | hey guys! I get bash: docevotpw: command not found |
| 08:44.59 | n_np | and it is installed |
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| 08:45.04 | n_np | i cant find it in bin or the sbin |
| 08:45.06 | n_np | where is it? |
| 08:45.27 | dimir | sounds like typo naming dovecotpw |
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| 08:45.32 | dimir | :-D |
| 08:45.55 | n_np | what should it be? :P |
| 08:46.16 | n_np | root@vhost /usr/sbin # dovecotpw |
| 08:46.18 | n_np | bash: dovecotpw: command not found |
| 08:46.22 | dimir | n_np: http://code.google.com/p/dovecotpfd/issues/detail?id=1 |
| 08:46.23 | n_np | same thing |
| 08:46.25 | n_np | ill try some more |
| 08:47.17 | n_np | its just not thre, and dovecot is installed |
| 08:47.18 | n_np | ?? |
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| 08:49.06 | n_np | oh ill use doveadm |
| 08:49.09 | n_np | no worries! |
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| 09:13.46 | h1nd | hey all. I can list installed memory on my Debian host with command "dmidecode -t memory". I get a list of how many banks are occupied and free. But how can I read out the exact RAM specification of the installed RAM modules? (i.e. PC3-12800U, CL11, and so on...) ? |
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| 09:17.25 | el-linedash | h1nd, that's the best you'll manage |
| 09:17.49 | el-linedash | dmidecode should tell you speed but that's about it |
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| 09:21.52 | el-linedash | get the part number from dmidecode and google it |
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| 09:28.32 | wildanimal | is there a way to check which processes are using a certain kernel module? |
| 09:28.51 | Monotoko | is it possible to update Debian without updating the kernel? (it's a custom kernel installed - 3.11) |
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| 09:29.33 | el-linedash | Monotoko, you should be able to pin the kernel |
| 09:29.45 | el-linedash | https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
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| 09:30.22 | el-linedash | wildanimal, basically no |
| 09:30.43 | el-linedash | wildanimal, you can try checking dmesg and see if there's anything listed there - but that's about it |
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| 09:31.35 | wildanimal | that doesn't sound good: [ 6800.077942] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint |
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| 09:44.53 | dxtr | So, guys. I'm trying to create a LUKS container (a file) but when i do "cryptsetup luksFormat myfile" I get "Cannot find a free loopback device" |
| 09:44.55 | dxtr | Why is that? |
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| 09:47.37 | dxtr | Okay, so the loop module isn't loaded. When I try to load it I get: "470826.680071] loop: Unknown symbol bdgrab (err 0)" |
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| 09:49.09 | dxtr | Googling around I found this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=712860 - but that isn't my problem (/boot is mounted and al) |
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| 09:53.04 | dxtr | I just noticed this happens on several of my computers |
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| 09:56.28 | Samul | Hi. I use debian 7 wheezy 64 bit: how can I activate the fallback mode on gnome 3? |
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| 09:57.50 | whitegirl | Hey. Debian's default lighttpd configuration for simple-vhost appears to be broken. It still serves the Debian specific index.html from /var/www, even though simple-vhost uses /srv |
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| 09:59.43 | whitegirl | Example to try it: |
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| 10:00.10 | whitegirl | apt-get install lighttpd && lighttpd-enable-mod simple-vhost && service lighttpd restart |
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| 10:00.32 | whitegirl | Then visit localhost. Expected result: 404 error, but instead I get the page in /var/www |
| 10:01.29 | Axlin | Samul: I believe in system settings > system info you can force fallback mode in the "graphics" section. Otherwise, you should be able to activate the fallback session in the login screen, if memory serves correctly. |
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| 10:04.13 | Samul | thanks Axlin I'll try |
| 10:04.15 | Samul | bye all |
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| 10:06.36 | Benkinooby | hi, how can i "find" all files, that changed within the last x hours or days? |
| 10:06.52 | f8l | Benkinooby: Read the manpage of find. |
| 10:07.14 | f8l | Benkinooby: Look for -newer and friends. |
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| 10:07.25 | Benkinooby | f8l: that's what i did - but i get wrong results. |
| 10:07.39 | Benkinooby | f8l: oh, i used -ctime |
| 10:08.30 | ChrisH | Benkinooby: man touch -t option and search for files newer thar reffile |
| 10:09.22 | f8l | ChrisH: find has this built in… |
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| 10:09.29 | Benkinooby | f8l: thank you for the hint! i can't find friends in the man page though. but your hint is enough for me to go on |
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| 10:09.56 | ChrisH | f8l: but only for days not hours... or it changed I did read the man page last time |
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| 10:10.17 | f8l | Benkinooby: By friends I meant -anewer, -cnewer, -newerXY and similar. ;-) |
| 10:10.35 | Benkinooby | f8l: oooohhhh XD |
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| 10:10.55 | f8l | ChrisH: If you compare with a reference, you have an exact time. |
| 10:11.08 | Benkinooby | f8l: so -ctime is to finde files that were exactly changed n*24 hrs ago |
| 10:11.20 | Benkinooby | f8l: exactly to the hour |
| 10:11.28 | SKiTZO | While following the official debian guide on customizing the kernel, it says to do "fakeroot make -f debian/rules.gen setup_i386_none_686-pae" |
| 10:11.34 | SKiTZO | how do I know which alternatives exist? |
| 10:11.43 | SKiTZO | for setup_* ? |
| 10:11.52 | f8l | Benkinooby: See -daystart if you want to change that. |
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| 10:13.01 | Benkinooby | f8l: ah ok - hm, so for the newer i'd have to create a file with the date i want and use that file as reffile? |
| 10:13.02 | f8l | SKiTZO: I don't know that guide, but I always use make-kpkg from kernel-package package. |
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| 10:13.30 | Benkinooby | f8l: oh, got it -newerXY |
| 10:13.33 | ChrisH | Benkinooby: If you want it for 1 hour: YES |
| 10:13.36 | f8l | SKiTZO: If you have a good completion mechanism in your shell, you should be able to press tab after „setup_” to see the alternatives. |
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| 10:14.00 | Benkinooby | f8l: ChrisH ok, everything is clear now, thank you two for your help |
| 10:14.16 | f8l | Benkinooby: IIRC you can pass an arbitrary time without the need to make a file. |
| 10:14.57 | ChrisH | f8l,Benkinooby on UNIX[TM] you need to do it the referencefile way. |
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| 10:18.30 | f8l | ChrisH: -newertm is not in UNIX™? |
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| 10:19.12 | f8l | Erm… -newermt. |
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| 10:28.12 | Benkinooby | [TM] |
| 10:28.17 | Benkinooby | ^[TM] |
| 10:28.46 | ChrisH | f8l: eg. Solaris 10 man find has only a -newer file option |
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| 10:31.29 | hellyeah | hey |
| 10:31.36 | hellyeah | is there a debian repo for sublime text |
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| 10:38.07 | f8l | ChrisH: I'm happy to use Debian then. :-D |
| 10:38.46 | f8l | hellyeah: Did you search for it? |
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| 10:40.03 | hellyeah | sure |
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| 10:42.48 | h1nd | my fail2ban configuration successfully detected my test ssh-attack and wrote a ban rule into the bastille-firewall (/sbin/bastille-netfilter). I double-checked with "bastille-netfilter status" and I see the rule/ban is there... |
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| 10:42.52 | h1nd | Chain fail2ban-ssh (1 references) |
| 10:42.55 | h1nd | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:42.57 | h1nd | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.00 | h1nd | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.25 | h1nd | but the remote test host (111.111.111.111 IP) still can access the ssh service and can retry many times to login. Anyone has a clue, why the firewall doesn't block this? |
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| 10:45.29 | ChrisH | h1nd: "still can access the ssh service" means an established connection is still working? Or it still can open new connections? |
| 10:47.28 | h1nd | ChrisH: I can connect to the machine and are able to use a login/password combination. The TCP connection to SSH port is established as usual |
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| 10:51.44 | f8l | h1nd: Are you sure the chain is called? |
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| 10:55.43 | Monotoko | do I have to reboot after a dist-upgrade? Or is that just for the new kernel? |
| 10:56.33 | ndec | Monotoko: if there is a new kernel, yes, you need to reboot to start using the new kernel. |
| 10:56.48 | Monotoko | ndec: I'm using a custom 3.11 kernel |
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| 10:57.03 | Monotoko | so mine is likely newer |
| 10:57.28 | ndec | now for user space, every process already running has all its libs already loaded. so if you upgrade a binary or one of the libs used, it won't be taken until you restart the process |
| 10:57.54 | ndec | well, if you don't want to use the newly installed kernel, you don't need to reboot. |
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| 10:58.03 | ndec | reboot is needed only if you want to change kernel. |
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| 10:58.45 | ndec | if you use gnome-shell (example), and gnome-shell is updated by dist-upgrade, your 'running' gnome-shell' is not updated until you restart it. |
| 10:59.18 | ndec | for user space upgrades, a logout/login is generally enough. |
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| 11:01.32 | h1nd | f8l: how can I check that, if the chain is being called ? |
| 11:02.44 | folivora | Hello, I know that this is wrong channel to ask :) But does someone know that is there somekind of app/cmd for CentOS/RHEL as auto apt is |
| 11:02.49 | folivora | :) |
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| 11:03.47 | ksk | whats auto apt? |
| 11:04.23 | f8l | h1nd: (I don't have iptables handy, so the following may be inaccurate.) Start with the INPUT chain and track what is called for the IP which should be blocked. If you encounter the fail2ban-ssh chain in the process, it should work. |
| 11:04.26 | ksk | aww, that sounds horrible |
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| 11:05.03 | __rob | hello, I have just booted inot the debian 7 setup, however one of my lsi raid card's drives are not listed as options to create the partitions on |
| 11:05.19 | __rob | am I meant to modify the iso to include the drivers for this card ? |
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| 11:05.53 | h1nd | f8l: start what? track what? I am sorried, I dont understand. |
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| 11:07.21 | f8l | __rob: There are ready made (though not official) CDs with firmware, though you should be able to provide it yourself. I think you should ask someone „responsible” (sorry, lack of vocabulary) for debian-installer help. |
| 11:08.09 | h1nd | f8l: this is the output of "/sbin/bastille-netfilter status" --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6092027/ |
| 11:08.15 | f8l | h1nd: (Previous disclaimer holds.) It was something like `iptables -L` IIRC. |
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| 11:09.11 | f8l | h1nd: Well, it's there as the first entry. |
| 11:10.50 | f8l | h1nd: Is SSH on the 22nd port? |
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| 11:13.19 | f8l | h1nd: „Chain INPUT (policy DROP 0 packets, 0 bytes)” this is somewhat suspicious IMO, but I'm not an expert. Also, why the last rule is a catch-all DROP if the policy is DROP already? |
| 11:14.14 | h1nd | f8l: Got it! Thanks for the hint. It was used port 22 (default config in fail2ban). But my ssh listens to another port. So I just changed in jail.local configuration from "port = ssh" to "port = ssh,1234" and it works like a charm |
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| 11:14.19 | h1nd | f8l: thanks ! |
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| 11:20.41 | f8l | h1nd: I'm glad I helped. :-) |
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| 11:29.50 | ulfsen | I would like to build a custom libwireshark-dev |
| 11:29.55 | hellyeah | honk ----> http://pr0gramm.com/#newest/*/105487/2013/07/iugvckwjisske |
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| 11:30.45 | ulfsen | are there some tools to build a *-dev.deb package? |
| 11:32.27 | phix | same way you would normal build one, apt-get source libwireshark and build it, should make a dev package |
| 11:32.40 | loaden | Hi, there! today I am working to installing Wheezy to a new laptop. I changed the boot from UEFI to legacy, but Wheezy still recognize to UEFI. Does there exist a way to force the mode to legacy? |
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| 11:34.53 | ulfsen | phix: but I would like to build a deb packet from modified sources |
| 11:34.53 | phix | loaden: Does it matter? if you issue is with grub then just install the grub-pc version instead of the uefi version |
| 11:35.21 | phix | ulfsen: soooo get the debian source then replace the files you want |
| 11:35.38 | phix | you may need to modify the build scripts depending on what the changes are |
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| 11:36.45 | ulfsen | phix: I have never done that... I will have a look at the build scripts |
| 11:40.40 | loaden | phix: when? just skip the grub install, enter the shell, do 'grub-install /dev/sda & update-grub'? or I just need boot into rescure mode? |
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| 11:41.45 | phix | loaden: When I had that issue I used the rescue mode, mounted the drives up and chrooted to it, enabled network and replaced the package |
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| 11:42.27 | ulfsen | phix: the build script is only the file ./DEBIAN/control? or are there more files? |
| 11:43.14 | mumpitzel | ulfsen: no there are more. you can change the source the way you want and then run dpkg-buildpackage, or you can run /debian/rules |
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| 11:44.04 | loaden | phix: thx |
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| 11:45.11 | phix | ulfsen: debian directory contains the debian build scripts |
| 11:45.30 | phix | Take a look around, I recommend reading up on creating a deb package too if you require more information |
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| 11:46.48 | ulfsen | thanks! |
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| 12:33.07 | pieter__ | hi guys, I can't install openjdk-7-jre using apt-get (openjdk-7-jre : Depends: openjdk-7-jre-headless (= 7u25-2.3.10-1~deb7u1) but it is not going to be installed), when I add openjdk-7-jre-headless i get 'openjdk-7-jre-headless : Depends: tzdata-java but it is not going to be installed' then I add "tzdata-java" to the apt-get command-line and get 'tzdata-java : Depends: tzdata (= 2013c-0wheezy1) but 2013d-0wheezy1 is to be installed'. |
| 12:33.07 | pieter__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.17 | Roenie | are the steam login servers down or do i have a problem with my client? |
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| 12:34.10 | ChrisH | pieter__: did you do an apt-get update before? |
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| 12:34.29 | pieter__ | ChrisH, yup. also tried using another mirror |
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| 12:35.44 | pieter__ | The tzdata package (and tzdata-java) were accepted into stable yesterday |
| 12:35.59 | jelly | pieter__: please pastebin the complete command and its full output, and also the output of "apt-cache policy tzdata tzdata-java" and "apt-cache policy" |
| 12:36.01 | jelly | !bat |
| 12:36.02 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 12:38.24 | pieter__ | jelly, http://pastebin.com/5jx6W7ZQ |
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| 12:43.50 | jelly | pieter__: you have a newer tzdata package installed than what's available from any configured repository. have you... MIXED PACKAGES FROM DIFFERENT RELEASES?!?!?! |
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| 12:43.53 | jelly | (that's a no-no) |
| 12:44.07 | jelly | judd: versions tzdata |
| 12:44.09 | judd | Package: tzdata on i386 -- squeeze: 2012g-0squeeze1; squeeze-updates: 2012g-0squeeze1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2013c-0squeeze1; wheezy: 2013c-0wheezy1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2013d-0wheezy1; wheezy-updates: 2013d-0wheezy1; jessie: 2013d-1; sid: 2013d-1 |
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| 12:44.50 | jelly | judd: versions tzdata-java |
| 12:44.51 | judd | Package: tzdata-java on i386 -- squeeze: 2012g-0squeeze1; squeeze-updates: 2012g-0squeeze1; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2013c-0squeeze1; wheezy: 2013c-0wheezy1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2013d-0wheezy1; wheezy-updates: 2013d-0wheezy1; jessie: 2013d-1; sid: 2013d-1 |
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| 12:45.21 | pieter__ | jelly, it's the latest from updates... lets see what the preseed in the installer uses |
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| 12:45.57 | jelly | pieter__: either add back the repo you installed tzdata=2013d-0wheezy1 from (wheezy-proposed-updates, likely), or dpkg --force-depends --remove tzdata and let apt-get -f install sort the mess out |
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| 12:47.27 | pieter__ | jelly, thanks.. I'm really confused where this comes from.. we don't configure a proposed repo in either the preseed or in the default configuration |
| 12:47.44 | jelly | pieter__: unfortunately the word "updates" doesn't really say much, Debian has overloaded the word with too many meanings and uses it for too many repos |
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| 12:48.13 | FilipeMaia | How can I count the number of files in a directory? |
| 12:48.46 | jelly | (there's security.d.o wheezy/updates, there's wheezy-updates that used to be "volatile"; there's wheezy-proposed-updates) |
| 12:48.47 | ChrisH | FilipeMaia: ls -l $DIR | wc -l |
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| 12:49.05 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: including subdirectories |
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| 12:49.19 | jelly | pieter__: well, it's either that one or the ex-volatile |
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| 12:49.36 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: I found, thanks! |
| 12:49.39 | ChrisH | FilipeMaia: you did only ask for _a_ diretory. find . -type f | wc -l |
| 12:49.54 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: thanks |
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| 12:50.24 | pieter__ | jelly, prosposed-updates isn't configured at any point in the machine-lifetime, unless debian-installer does something with it |
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| 12:50.45 | pieter__ | jelly, anyway, it's fixed now.. thanks for helping |
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| 12:56.25 | jelly | you're welcome... I've no idea what happened there in d-i |
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| 13:02.30 | jonkri | Are there "original" and properly verified CDs of Debian that I can buy? I've checked some of the CD vendors, but they seem to sell custom discs. |
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| 13:03.34 | hke | i need a way to create a writable mountable filesystem in a compressed image file. how can i achieve that under debian? |
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| 13:04.22 | halfie | https://wiki.debian.org/ReproducibleBuilds is super interesting. |
| 13:04.46 | jonkri | halfie: Awesome! |
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| 13:06.20 | halfie | I am interested in learning this stuff and maybe even contributing back some tricks. |
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| 13:07.19 | halfie | e.g. .pyc and .pyo files have timestamp embedded in them (after the version magic). how are you guys dealing with this? |
| 13:07.26 | halfie | is faketime enough to handle this by itself? |
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| 13:15.59 | __rob | hello |
| 13:16.14 | __rob | for some reason i am getting GRUB installation failed on the netinst |
| 13:16.24 | __rob | is there an alternate method to install it afterwards ? |
| 13:17.25 | mumpitze1 | !tell __rob about fixmbr |
| 13:17.37 | mumpitze1 | in short: grub-install |
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| 13:21.35 | yalu | I'm upgrading a Debian server running Tomcat... Debian 7 ships with both tomcat 6 and 7. just keeping Tomcat at 6 would be a lot easier since it's practically the same version, but is it really advisable? |
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| 13:23.34 | awelan | I'm currently creating a iso for debian - this was working yesterday fine, but today I have this 404… "Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en 404 Not Found [IP: 46.4.205.43 80]" - Is any one else experiencing this? |
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| 13:26.55 | themill | awelan: what's fetching that? apt? |
| 13:27.13 | awelan | themill: yes |
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| 13:39.41 | jb_ | laidback_01: I got it to work, I had to modify the .iso though. NOT a preferable solution, but hey, what to do, now it works |
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| 13:49.25 | anton02 | how do you execute a 32bit binary under 64bit wheezy? |
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| 13:52.32 | jelly | anton02: read /msg dpkg multiarch howto, enable i386 foreign architecture and install libc6:i386 and the missing libraries |
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| 14:28.26 | eb0t | hi |
| 14:28.43 | eb0t | i want to start programming in java...but on the debian site its not clear |
| 14:29.03 | eb0t | i dont know if i need the defaultjre......or the defualt -jdk |
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| 14:29.37 | eb0t | or do i need openjdk v6 or gnus'gij/gcj |
| 14:29.51 | eb0t | can someone please shed some light |
| 14:29.52 | ChrisH | eb0t: for developing zou need a JDK |
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| 14:30.02 | themill | eb0t: if you want to run stuff you want the runtime environment; if you want to develop, you need the development kit |
| 14:30.15 | ChrisH | eb0t: JDK Java Develpoment Kit vs. JRE Java Runtime Environment |
| 14:30.36 | eb0t | o if i want to write snippts of code and run them |
| 14:30.41 | eb0t | i need both libraries |
| 14:31.04 | ChrisH | JDK covers JRE stuff |
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| 14:31.19 | eb0t | oh so i may get away with just default jdk |
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| 14:32.31 | ChrisH | eb0t: openjdk should provide Java7 and this is what I recommend to start with. JDK + editor is all you need |
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| 14:33.33 | themill | (java 6 in wheezy; java 7 in jessie) |
| 14:34.16 | jelly | wonders wth is openjdk-6-* default for wheezy |
| 14:34.32 | eb0t | wow thanks chrish..i was reading about that runtime compatibility and wondered if it includes both faa runtime and java headless runtime |
| 14:34.51 | themill | jelly: because openjdk-7 wasn't ready in time to do a transition and a freeze. |
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| 14:37.24 | themill | jelly: security team requested that it happen but release team nak'd making a good portion of java packages ftbfs in April/May. |
| 14:37.56 | eb0t | ok then ...my undersanding is that wheezy which i run has a defautl-jdk....that jdk is openjdk6... |
| 14:38.25 | themill | eb0t: yes. You can install openjdk-7-jdk as well if you want |
| 14:38.27 | eb0t | open jdk6 contains virtual packages that cover runtime compatibility ... |
| 14:38.42 | jelly | themill: throwing all the java away and putting it back in a dot release might have made more sense |
| 14:38.59 | themill | s/and.*// |
| 14:39.01 | eb0t | this inclueds all the java 1-runtime stuff ...and all the java 1-runtime-headless stuff |
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| 14:39.06 | jelly | heh, well |
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| 14:40.36 | eb0t | i was thinking of sticking with openjdk-6 themill as i dont want any incompatibility errors or dependancy errors...i believe jkd 7 is part of jesse so has not yet been tested fully |
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| 14:40.56 | roger21 | g |
| 14:41.16 | roger21 | in case you were nissing a g |
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| 14:41.24 | roger21 | no, don't thank me it's ok |
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| 14:41.53 | petn-randall | takes the g by force. |
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| 14:42.35 | dimitry7 | Hello guys. What good video converter would you recommend to me in Linux? Specifically I want to convert from MPG to AVI format. |
| 14:42.47 | Pizza90_0 | hi all, i want to buy a pc with debian i saw that zareason has good pcs but i can't understand if they are us based or uk based, seems they dont ship abroad so does anyone know if there is a way toet their pc in uk^ |
| 14:43.18 | Pizza90_0 | dimtry7: if i am not wrong winFF works on debian too |
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| 14:43.29 | fetoega | How do i disable screen blanking system wide on X in debian? Just disabling the screensaver in the desktop enviroments does not prevent this annoying behaviour. |
| 14:44.15 | keith4 | how do I see which packages, if any, are pinned? |
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| 14:45.40 | themill | keith4: last lines of "apt-cache policy" |
| 14:46.31 | eb0t | dimitry why not buy the pc of your choosing and then format it and install debian |
| 14:46.33 | Nach0z | apt-get moo |
| 14:46.36 | keith4 | themill: ah, thanks |
| 14:48.08 | keith4 | um, any reason wheezy/main would be 990, but wheezy/updates and wheezy-updates both 500? |
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| 14:50.08 | jelly | keith4: a Default-Release setting in /etc/apt/apt.conf, or pinning in /etc/apt/preferences |
| 14:51.01 | keith4 | jelly: ah, yes. cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/02default => APT::Default-Release stable; |
| 14:51.08 | keith4 | wonder how that got there. thanks! |
| 14:51.16 | jelly | dpkg -S it? :-) |
| 14:51.17 | dpkg | Badgers ate my it? :-)! |
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| 14:51.37 | jelly | dpkg: :-P |
| 14:51.37 | dpkg | jelly: wish i knew |
| 14:51.59 | jelly | !flw0 |
| 14:52.00 | dpkg | <coredmp> umm...latest is always bettter when it comes to functionality |
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| 15:00.39 | h1nd | hey there. Is it somehow possible to teach postfix and dovecot NOT to write their logs into /var/log/syslog ??? I mean, they already write into /var/log/mail.log which is ok for me. I don't want also /var/log/syslog have been written by them. Anyone can tell me how to do that? |
| 15:01.57 | ChrisH | h1nd: I assume postfix uses syslog() to write logs. So you need to change syslog.conf for your installed syslogd |
| 15:01.58 | jelly | h1nd: configure rsyslog not to put mail.* there |
| 15:02.01 | bhuddah | h1nd: i think you have to tell syslog to do that. |
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| 15:02.55 | jelly | h1nd: basically, add mail.none to |
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| 15:03.22 | jelly | h1nd: basically, add mail.none next to auth.none and authpriv.none as things that go into -/var/log/syslog |
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| 15:06.52 | h1nd | where is syslog configuration file ?? |
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| 15:08.01 | ChrisH | in /etc exact name depends on used syslogd |
| 15:08.02 | h1nd | oh, I think its /etc/rsyslog.conf, ok got it |
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| 15:08.43 | abailarri | Hello. Anyone has used ISPConig 3? I have some questions |
| 15:08.59 | h1nd | abailarri: yes, me is using it. |
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| 15:09.25 | h1nd | my rsyslog.conf has an entry like this here --> mail.* -/var/log/mail.log |
| 15:09.39 | abailarri | h1nd: I installed ispconfig in a vps to learn about net administration |
| 15:09.48 | h1nd | but why still the messages of /var/log/mail.log still are written into /var/log/syslog then? |
| 15:09.55 | abailarri | and I have one question |
| 15:10.03 | abailarri | I created a website |
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| 15:10.26 | abailarri | with the control panel of ISPConfig. |
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| 15:10.59 | abailarri | and when I go to /etc/apache/sites-availabe I can see myweb.vhost and myweb.vhost.err |
| 15:11.09 | abailarri | what is the deifference between? |
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| 15:11.48 | h1nd | myweb.vhost.err has been generated automatically, either by your ispconfig installation or even by an update/upgrade procedure, I am not sure |
| 15:12.15 | abailarri | Ok. and when I open the myweb.vhost, this file is empty. |
| 15:12.20 | abailarri | Only have two comments |
| 15:12.23 | Cylta | Hi. Any ideas why can't I boot my arm-board from uSD with DVD image on it? (but I can with another, author made uSD card with another debian-like system) |
| 15:12.26 | h1nd | I think you have to focus at /etc/apache/sites-available/myweb.vhost You can see which file is active by "ls -l /etc/apache/sites-enabled" |
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| 15:12.48 | h1nd | abailarri: then compare with myweb.vhost.err |
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| 15:13.08 | h1nd | my rsyslog.conf has an entry like this here --> mail.* -/var/log/mail.log |
| 15:13.09 | abailarri | in the file .err there are few lines of apache config |
| 15:13.12 | h1nd | but why still the messages of /var/log/mail.log still are written into /var/log/syslog then? |
| 15:13.16 | abailarri | in the vhost normal no |
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| 15:14.22 | abailarri | I should to write in the vhost file to up yhe website? |
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| 15:17.11 | ChrisH | h1nd: because there is a matching line in the config. |
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| 15:17.46 | abailarri | h1nd: this is the myweb.vhost http://pastebin.com/ackLGY7U |
| 15:18.07 | abailarri | is empty. What I need to do? |
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| 15:18.17 | linux|newb | I have a logical volume made up of two physical volumes, one at 250GB and one at 3TB. In FDISK the 3TB shows up as 3TB but in pvdisplay shows as 2TB... how do I expand the PV to use it's full 100%? |
| 15:18.23 | h1nd | abailarri: post the content of the .err file in pastebin |
| 15:18.26 | oobe | Hi im sure this wont work but I just did a fresh install of wheezy stable and wanted to know if I could switch my sources list to unstable and upgrade kde to 4.10 then put it back to wheezy so everything else stays the same. |
| 15:18.34 | oobe | I imagine it will break my system |
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| 15:18.55 | oobe | but if there is any kind of way I could enable both repos to co exist friendly I would like to hear about it |
| 15:19.22 | h1nd | ChrisH + Jelly: Ok, I found it. I opened /etc/rsyslog.conf and looked for the line "*.*;auth,authpriv.none -/var/log/syslog" and changed it to "*.*;auth,authpriv.none;mail.none -/var/log/syslog" and then "/etc/init.d/rsyslog restart". That's it! :-) thx |
| 15:19.55 | ChrisH | linux|newb: can you show us the output from : pvs, vgs and fdisk -l for both PVs on paste.debian.net please |
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| 15:20.08 | linux|newb | ChrisH: sure... ein moment |
| 15:20.43 | h1nd | oobe: I think you can only do that by apt-pinning which you should really understand because if you do something wrong you really can break your system. But I think the pro's in here can give you better advice |
| 15:21.08 | ChrisH | linux|newb: keine Eile... please add the commands,output into ONE paste |
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| 15:21.55 | oobe | yea I am the kind of person that spends ages tweaking my system then for one small reason risk it all cause kde 4.10 fixes and annoying bug I get with dual monitors loading apps on the wrong side |
| 15:21.57 | abailarri | h1nd: http://pastebin.com/wyb6ZXmA |
| 15:22.04 | PhineasRex | Is there an easy way to see why apt wants to remove packages during an upgrade? |
| 15:22.17 | oobe | ty h1nd you right |
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| 15:23.05 | roger21 | hey |
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| 15:23.13 | h1nd | abailarri: so you dont need the empty .vhost file anymore. Delete it, and the rename the .err to yourDesiredName.vhost |
| 15:23.19 | colonolGron | just installed debian. everything is fine. boots perfectly. wanted to edit my grub config. isnt it at /boot/grub/menu.lst anymore? can grub boot without it? oO |
| 15:23.26 | h1nd | abailarri: and then restart apache2 |
| 15:23.54 | h1nd | colonolGron: /etc/grub.d and /boot/grub/grub.cfg are your friends ;) |
| 15:24.07 | roger21 | is there a command to highlight a text, just like grep but with keeping all the line |
| 15:24.36 | h1nd | roger21: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 15:25.07 | colonolGron | h1nd: thanks |
| 15:25.08 | linux|newb | http://paste.debian.net/38392/ |
| 15:25.14 | linux|newb | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/38392/ |
| 15:25.18 | roger21 | h1nd, i'd like to display a text to the console highlighting some patern |
| 15:25.20 | linux|newb | ChrisH: in the order requested |
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| 15:25.54 | roger21 | (just like grep with the color mode) |
| 15:25.55 | abailarri | yes h1nd , solved |
| 15:25.56 | abailarri | Thanks |
| 15:26.18 | colonolGron | h1nd: wow i guess things changed since i used linux the last time ;) i just want to change the framebuffer resolution, i suppose i have to do that in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? |
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| 15:26.58 | mumpitze1 | colonolGron: /etc/default/grub |
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| 15:27.45 | ChrisH | linux|newb: I am not 100% sure but ain't there one of these (XXX should be enough) borders and GPT partition table is needed to get the full 2+TB size? |
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| 15:29.34 | GSport | is gpt faster? |
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| 15:30.12 | Cylta | where can I take "hybrid" images of debian? (that I can use on microSD)? |
| 15:30.15 | linux|newb | ChrisH: hmm |
| 15:30.23 | GSport | does gpt deals better with bad blocks? |
| 15:30.28 | h1nd | roger21: maybe your desired program to display a text has something like "--color" as option available ? |
| 15:30.43 | ksk | gpt is no filesystem, google it GSport |
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| 15:30.50 | colonolGron | mumpitze1: thanks |
| 15:31.17 | GSport | bad blocks arent on the file system |
| 15:31.24 | ChrisH | GSport: dunno and I do not matter speed. It allwos to access the full disk! Bad blocks are handled by the diskHW and no bad block should be shown to the user. If there is a bad block visible its time to search the backup and replace the disk. |
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| 15:32.03 | linux|newb | ChrisH: I loosely remember now that when I built this the first time round and wanted to extend the volume by the size of the 3TB drive, I had to enter the amount in MBs... I calculated |
| 15:32.22 | linux|newb | ChrisH: ...but had to keep bringing it down |
| 15:32.26 | asherawelan | I'm having exactly this issue… http://lists.debian.org/deity/2012/04/msg00186.html - but it's marked as fixed… I can see the bz2 file int he repo, but my debian installer is only looking for the gz… what can I do, my installation breaks... |
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| 15:32.42 | GSport | i want to make a partion around the bad block and make hide it unformated |
| 15:32.52 | linux|newb | ChrisH: I was hoping that after having done that, I could issue a command to just make the PV expand to actual |
| 15:32.58 | __rob | which partition am I meant to install grub to ? |
| 15:32.59 | h1nd | anyone in here using suphp and can pastebin a working config (the default one is preferred) of /etc/apache2/mods-available/suphp.conf ,please? |
| 15:33.05 | linux|newb | and then subsequently the same with the VG |
| 15:33.18 | __rob | It didn't install in the debian 7 install (complained) so i've booked to a shell, with my main ext4 partition mounted |
| 15:33.29 | __rob | I've apt-get install grub-efi-amd64 |
| 15:33.33 | __rob | that worked.. |
| 15:33.47 | __rob | theres an efi parition though, should it be installed to this ? |
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| 15:34.41 | GSport | only ubuntu and fedora can use efi |
| 15:34.42 | linux|newb | ChrisH: I think I'm going to have purchase a big ol' external drive, copy my media to it and then start this process over... maybe I'll just use BTRFS and forego logical volume management altogether |
| 15:34.52 | ChrisH | GSport: for educational purpose create partions on the yet OK part and combine them as PVs into one VG. Please do not complain about all data lost in a few days! |
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| 15:35.21 | __rob | so why has the debian install created an efi partition ? |
| 15:35.28 | ChrisH | linux|newb: You do not have a backup at all currently? |
| 15:35.47 | linux|newb | ChrisH: all over the place... it's a lot of stuff I've ripped so I have the original DVDs |
| 15:36.02 | linux|newb | but I don't particularly relish the idea of ripping again |
| 15:36.19 | linux|newb | ...and then friends were the source for other stuff |
| 15:36.42 | GSport | dvd boxes take to much space |
| 15:36.47 | linux|newb | I should have a colaborative backup, I get that but was looking to tackle one problem at a time :P and spend money when I have it :P |
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| 15:38.27 | roger21 | so nothing to just highlight? |
| 15:39.02 | ChrisH | roger21: define highlight |
| 15:39.11 | roger21 | color |
| 15:39.37 | roger21 | damn it's depressing |
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| 15:40.00 | ChrisH | Use sed and replace the string with ESC-sequences for color + String + ESC-no-color. |
| 15:40.17 | ChrisH | roger21: do not ask me the ESC sequences |
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| 15:40.38 | roger21 | oh not bad |
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| 15:41.01 | roger21 | if it's the same as the prompt it should be fine |
| 15:41.09 | roger21 | let's try |
| 15:41.15 | __rob | GSport: What do you mean only fedora and ubuntu work with efi. Lots of stuff on google suggests debian does ? |
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| 15:43.35 | Pizza90_0 | guys i am running debian testing but i can only get wine 1.4.1 is there a way to get a newer version?and once installed i dont see wine in the menu as happens with ubuntu, any solution? |
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| 15:43.36 | GSport | ive read that only fedora and ubuntu got the keys to the efi castle |
| 15:43.50 | mumpitze1 | ,v wine-unstable |
| 15:43.51 | judd | Package: wine-unstable on i386 -- sid: 1.5.30-2 |
| 15:43.58 | mumpitze1 | !tell Pizza90_0 about tum |
| 15:44.52 | Pizza90_0 | thanks |
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| 15:45.03 | Pizza90_0 | any fix to show wine in the menu list?? |
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| 16:01.08 | jhutchins | !de |
| 16:01.09 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 16:03.37 | jhutchins | I managed to get the Dell Lifecycle Controller out of German a few days ago. Still, my tech vocabulary (my WHOLE vocabulary) is pretty weak these days. |
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| 16:16.31 | bullgard4 | I have bought a computer with Windows 7 Professional on its entire hard disk. I would like to install Debian wheezy in additon, so that a multiboot computer forms. I have got a "Debian 7.0 (wheezy) installation CD-ROM". (Actually, it is a DVD.) Can I use it at once for installing Debian , or do I need to shrink the Windows OS with another tool before I can use my "Debian 7.0 (wheezy)... |
| 16:16.32 | bullgard4 | ...installation CD-ROM"? |
| 16:17.45 | somiaj | bullgard4: I forget if the tools on the installer are decent enough to resize windows partitions. You may need a live image with gparted. Note you can resize the partition right in windows, but you can get much more space if you do it from a live system |
| 16:17.47 | meder | I have nvidia 5400M G108 and it seems that I lack GLX drivers. I am on wheezy. how do I get GLX enabled? |
| 16:17.51 | somiaj | I do forget if the install cd has gparted |
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| 16:18.41 | mumpitzel | !tell bullgard4 about ig |
| 16:18.49 | mumpitzel | bullgard4: please read this, it answers your question |
| 16:19.11 | somiaj | !tell meder about nvidia dkms |
| 16:19.36 | meder | somiaj: |
| 16:19.38 | somiaj | meder: I'm trying to recall what generation of card that is, sn't 5400M an old legacy graphics card? |
| 16:19.43 | meder | i think its new |
| 16:19.46 | meder | my thinkpad is t430 |
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| 16:19.58 | meder | i had trouble wit hdrivers earlier because i think it was too new |
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| 16:20.08 | meder | http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-nvs.html |
| 16:20.08 | mumpitzel | somiaj: 540M, not 5400 |
| 16:20.18 | meder | "NVS 5400M (NEW!)" |
| 16:20.19 | meder | per the nvidia site |
| 16:20.20 | mumpitzel | and gf108 is a first generation fermi |
| 16:20.31 | somiaj | oh 540M seems more reasonable, and I think they are supported in wheezy |
| 16:20.31 | meder | the codename is gf108 yes |
| 16:20.37 | somiaj | since the newest generation is the 600 series |
| 16:20.41 | meder | huh? its 5400M though |
| 16:20.49 | meder | why do you guys say 540M |
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| 16:21.15 | meder | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [Quadro NVS 5400M] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) |
| 16:21.18 | mumpitzel | cause the consumer chips are using 540M and the like. you have a quadro nvs, I forgot |
| 16:21.19 | somiaj | because that seems strange to me, the new series is the 500/600 series. The old series was the 5000 series. |
| 16:21.32 | meder | oh ok |
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| 16:21.42 | somiaj | oh its a quadro, not a gforce. Yea I don't know much about those cards. :( |
| 16:21.55 | mumpitzel | meder: the nvidia proprietary drivers will work. you still might have problems with optimus of course. but the thinkpad has a hardware mux generally |
| 16:22.06 | meder | mumpitzel: |
| 16:22.08 | mumpitzel | meder: but it usually means you cannot simply use the nvidia chip |
| 16:22.12 | somiaj | again read that factoid on the non-free nvidia drivers if that is what you want to use. If your card is too new to be supported by that driver it won't be easy to get newer drivers on debian wheezy |
| 16:22.49 | meder | «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf» |
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| 16:23.19 | meder | so should i try that or no? |
| 16:23.48 | meder | in the past whenever i made xorg.conf with nvidia-config it couldn't start gnome shell |
| 16:24.00 | mumpitzel | meder: what does glxinfo say currently? |
| 16:24.16 | meder | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 16:24.23 | meder | i dont think it was compiled w/ GLX |
| 16:24.23 | darsie | I have a strange font in acroread: http://www.bksys.at/bernhard/temp/snapshot19.png . IIRC I resolved that before by installing a font package. Can you tell me which? |
| 16:24.37 | mumpitzel | meder: and what does ls -l /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/ say? |
| 16:24.51 | meder | no suc hdir |
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| 16:26.56 | jelly | darsie: you'll have to look at the properties of that particular document and find out which fonts it uses |
| 16:27.04 | meder | mumpitzel: no such dir* |
| 16:27.27 | linux|newb | given that I don't use Linux in my job, there are a fair number of features that I don't utilise... how often do those that work with it renice stuff these days/ |
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| 16:29.59 | darsie | jelly: How do I do that? |
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| 16:30.03 | somiaj | meder: yes those should work, provided your card is supported by the nvidia driver in wheezy |
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| 16:30.54 | meder | ok |
| 16:31.16 | jelly | darsie: I don't remember where the properties can be found in acroread, sorry |
| 16:31.39 | jelly | but they're there in the menus somewhere |
| 16:31.48 | somiaj | meder: /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-dkms/README.txt.gz -- once you install that (I don't have it on my laptop) you can double check you have support by reading that list |
| 16:31.49 | darsie | jelly: Found the properties ... |
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| 16:32.03 | meder | i think i tried reading that and |
| 16:32.07 | meder | it didnt have them available |
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| 16:32.11 | meder | thru github |
| 16:32.14 | meder | but ill try again |
| 16:32.18 | antihero | Hey I'm getting errors with wheezy-updates |
| 16:32.40 | antihero | W: Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en 404 Not Found [IP: 46.4.205.43 80] |
| 16:32.46 | somiaj | meder: right now there really isn't a nice way to get newer nvidia non-free drivers in wheezy. They will eventally be backported, but no time taable on that |
| 16:32.55 | somiaj | antihero: it is debian.org, try that |
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| 16:33.07 | antihero | so the redirector is broken? |
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| 16:33.17 | somiaj | debian.net and debian.org are different, use debian.org for offical sources |
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| 16:33.36 | antihero | aye, but why would the redirector be broken :( |
| 16:33.37 | somiaj | !debian.net |
| 16:33.37 | dpkg | The "debian.net" domain points at unofficial resources maintained by Debian Developers. The resources are usually not managed or controlled by the Debian sysadmin group, unlike debian.org machines. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDotNet and http://wiki.debian.org/DebianNetDomains for more information. |
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| 16:33.52 | somiaj | debian.net is not a redirector |
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| 16:34.04 | antihero | http://http.debian.net/ |
| 16:34.21 | meder | somiaj: mumpitzel |
| 16:34.22 | meder | is not newer than what is already found in kernel 3.2.0-4-686-pae (304.88). |
| 16:34.27 | meder | when i installed dkms |
| 16:34.50 | Kristoomus | New website up and running! Please write into this website contact information->comments what do you think about it. http://webchef.netau.net |
| 16:34.57 | meder | should i --force it? |
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| 16:35.10 | somiaj | antihero: but in terms of sources it is different, use debian.org or read the factoids/links in them |
| 16:35.11 | meder | ? |
| 16:35.23 | somiaj | meder: force it? |
| 16:35.43 | somiaj | Kristoomus: this is not a place to advertise |
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| 16:36.03 | meder | http://pastie.org/pastes/8317422/text?key=9vd2us5rdct00byzhne2w |
| 16:36.05 | meder | somiaj: |
| 16:36.11 | meder | it installed dkms but said the module is same as existing |
| 16:36.21 | meder | isnt dkms only for just getting the latest module |
| 16:36.22 | meder | and nothing else |
| 16:36.30 | meder | if i already have it, what difference would it make, how will it install glx or whatever? |
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| 16:36.45 | LinuxGold | is running HP Pavilion Slimline 3100n desktop PC running Ubuntu 13.04 server and kernel 3.8.0-30-generic. seeing i2c i2c-3 sendbytes NAK bailout error every few seconds, what is NAK bailout error? |
| 16:37.02 | meder | someone said i need to do something like "load "GLX"" in the xorg.conf but i dnt wanna do it manually |
| 16:37.06 | antihero | http://raphael.ganneff.de/ is broke |
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| 16:37.12 | meder | or do i need to recompile my nvidia driver manually? |
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| 16:37.34 | somiaj | meder: no, follow that factoid, you need like 4 lines in your xorg.conf file to tell it to use the nvidia driver, glx should be loaded automatically |
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| 16:37.41 | bullgard4 | mumpitzel: "For FAT/FAT32 and NTFS partitions as used by DOS and Windows systems, the ability to move and resize them losslessly is provided both by debian-installer as well as by the integrated Disk Manager of Windows 7. " -- Thank you very much for your help. |
| 16:38.16 | somiaj | gparted on a live system I think has much better support for that than what the debian installer includes, but this could have changed. |
| 16:38.43 | somiaj | meder: lsmod | grep nvidia -- is the moudle loaded, if so it looks like you compiled it just fine |
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| 16:38.53 | somiaj | meder: now just set up your xorg.conf file as pwer the factoid and restart x |
| 16:39.03 | somiaj | meder: you can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what is detected and any errors |
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| 16:39.38 | kimda | Hi. Today i installed a new network card in my server but I am experiencing the same issues like before. I am running a bridge with KVM. I can ping the guest but connecting to the database on the guest takes a long time. also on the host pinging other hosts ex. google.com takes a long time. Driver igb. |
| 16:40.11 | meder | somiaj: before i asked i tried the load GLX thing |
| 16:40.21 | meder | and it resulted in shell not starting |
| 16:40.26 | meder | maybe i did it incorrectly |
| 16:40.26 | kimda | I found this bug report. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=697357 could this be my problem? |
| 16:40.30 | darsie | jelly: I installed ttf-mscorefonts-installer. I don't like MS stuff, but I was too lazy to search for alternatives ... |
| 16:40.34 | darsie | works now. |
| 16:40.59 | jelly | \o/ |
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| 16:41.19 | iateadonut | if i buy a box with no monitor, how can i install debian? |
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| 16:42.20 | darsie | iateadonut: You can try a 'remote debian installation'. Or boot some live linux and do debootstrap, I think. |
| 16:43.09 | darsie | it must autoconfigure your network. |
| 16:43.32 | darsie | and allow you to log in as root via ssh or so. |
| 16:43.43 | kimda | after restarting the network everything is fine again |
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| 16:44.42 | darsie | iateadonut: You may have to put an ssh login key on your live linux. |
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| 16:46.04 | iateadonut | the server is totally blank. |
| 16:46.07 | iateadonut | blank hard drive |
| 16:46.08 | jhutchins | iateadonut: Some boxes come with a console-over-ethernet option - usually sold as servers. Dell has this option, although you actually need a local console to set it up. |
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| 16:46.56 | darsie | iateadonut: Boot with CD or USB or connect a hard disk with some linux. |
| 16:47.20 | jhutchins | iateadonut: You can set up an automated preseed install, but it's hard to know exactly what you're doing unless you've done the same hardware before. |
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| 16:50.26 | meder | hey |
| 16:50.29 | meder | so.. |
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| 16:50.36 | meder | gnome shell doesnt boot up |
| 16:50.44 | meder | i checked /var/log/Xorg.1.conf and it says no screens found or something. |
| 16:50.53 | meder | i dont know if thats the most recent msg but makes sense |
| 16:51.04 | roger21 | here my friends: high() { sed "s/$1/\d27[32;1m&\d27[0m/g" $2; } |
| 16:51.15 | roger21 | enjoy the highlight function \o/ |
| 16:51.18 | roger21 | oh yeah |
| 16:51.19 | meder | somiaj: ^ |
| 16:51.20 | jhutchins | meder: Did it ever work? |
| 16:51.31 | meder | jhutchins: this is only after im doing nvidia-kernel-dkms or something |
| 16:51.37 | meder | because my glx doesnt initialize |
| 16:51.49 | meder | it worked before i installed that |
| 16:51.58 | jhutchins | meder: So uninstall it. |
| 16:52.06 | meder | i need instructions from somiaj though |
| 16:52.07 | jhutchins | meder: What instructions did you follow? |
| 16:52.11 | meder | he knows |
| 16:52.20 | meder | he gave me a factoid |
| 16:52.23 | meder | i dont have screen up though |
| 16:52.29 | meder | to page up to find it |
| 16:52.34 | meder | basically it installed nvidia-kerenel-dkms |
| 16:52.40 | meder | in order to enable nvidia glx |
| 16:52.44 | jhutchins | meder: It's important to keep track of what you do to your system for this very reason. |
| 16:52.47 | meder | and it made a xorg conf file |
| 16:52.57 | meder | before that it didnt use nvidia-dkms nor the xorg conf files |
| 16:52.58 | jelly | meder: /msg dpkg nvidia dkms |
| 16:53.00 | meder | so that's what happened |
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| 16:53.03 | jhutchins | meder: If you're blindly following advice off irc you're going to end up like this. |
| 16:53.13 | swick | hey, I use debian testing (linux 3.10-2) and compiled and installed linux 3.11 but now I can't enter the passphrase for the encryption in initramfs anymore and it seems like the keyboard isn't active at all |
| 16:53.15 | meder | it seemed the right thing to do, though |
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| 16:53.31 | meder | yes, jelly |
| 16:53.36 | meder | thats exactly what i did |
| 16:53.53 | mumpitzel | meder: pastebin the full Xorg.0.log |
| 16:54.02 | jhutchins | swick: So apparantly you didn't get all the drivers in your new initramfs. |
| 16:54.05 | meder | heres what i think: |
| 16:54.07 | mumpitzel | swick: boot your old kernel |
| 16:54.14 | meder | i think doing that didnt re-install the new module because |
| 16:54.17 | meder | it matched my existing one |
| 16:54.25 | meder | so i dont think it recompiled it w/ glx or whatever |
| 16:54.27 | mumpitzel | meder: your thinking is quite flawed |
| 16:54.30 | meder | ok |
| 16:54.37 | meder | ill pastebin |
| 16:54.38 | meder | hold up |
| 16:54.48 | somiaj | meder: nvidia-kernel-dkms and then install the package nvidia-glx |
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| 16:54.56 | swick | jhutchins: I used the kernel config from 3.10 and did make oldconfig |
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| 16:55.08 | somiaj | but yea paste your Xorg.0.log file, lets see what errors you get |
| 16:55.13 | jhutchins | swick: Where did you get the source? |
| 16:55.23 | mumpitzel | 9/10 times it's optimus |
| 16:56.06 | meder | ok |
| 16:56.23 | swick | jhutchins: kernel.org |
| 16:56.23 | meder | http://static.arounds.org/xorg.log.txt |
| 16:56.30 | meder | , somiaj && mumpitzel |
| 16:56.58 | meder | i guess maybe now it isnt registering my screen |
| 16:57.02 | meder | which is what i said earlier up |
| 16:57.04 | meder | dunno why |
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| 16:59.00 | somiaj | yea your device might not be supported by that card, can you paste the contents of this file for me (since the version I have is much newer than yours) |
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| 16:59.29 | mumpitzel | meder: do you have a directory /sys/kernel/debug ? |
| 16:59.30 | somiaj | /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-dkms/README.txt.gz/usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-dkms/README.txt.gz -- you said your card wasn't in that list? |
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| 17:00.01 | mumpitzel | it's a 300 series driver. it is in |
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| 17:01.35 | mxv | If I replace 'wheezy' with 'sid' in /etc/apt/sources, will that automagically upgrade me to use sid? |
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| 17:02.07 | somiaj | mxv: well you will have to apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and then fix anything that breaks |
| 17:02.11 | somiaj | but yes |
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| 17:02.22 | mumpitzel | and stuff will break |
| 17:02.29 | meder | sec |
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| 17:02.41 | meder | yes i do mumpitzel |
| 17:02.43 | meder | but nothing is in it |
| 17:03.08 | meder | somiaj: contents of the readme? |
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| 17:03.11 | somiaj | meder: zless /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-dkms/README.txt.gz -- run that command then type '/5400M' and see if you get any hits |
| 17:03.12 | mxv | somiaj, mumpitzel: Alrigh, how much? Roughly. 1, 10, 100, 1000 packages? |
| 17:03.15 | meder | ok |
| 17:03.18 | meder | sec |
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| 17:04.11 | meder | somiaj: weird, 'nvidia-kerenel-dkms' doesnt exist in that |
| 17:04.14 | meder | in /usr/share/doc |
| 17:04.27 | mumpitzel | kerenel != kernel |
| 17:04.53 | meder | i know that |
| 17:04.56 | somiaj | mxv: It will upgrade every package, no real way to tell you what bugs you will run into. you can install apt-listbugs to help with that. But it is sid after all |
| 17:05.06 | meder | still doesn't exist |
| 17:05.09 | somiaj | meder: do you have the nvidia-kernel-dkms package isntalled? |
| 17:05.10 | meder | i didnt typo when looking for it |
| 17:05.26 | meder | yes |
| 17:05.39 | somiaj | then you should have a /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-dkms directory |
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| 17:05.55 | meder | 304.88-1 |
| 17:05.56 | meder | nope |
| 17:05.57 | meder | doesnt exist |
| 17:06.11 | meder | remember when i told you, that when i installed dkms, it said module is not newer than existing |
| 17:06.16 | meder | ill check the existing modules readme |
| 17:06.23 | somiaj | meder: how did you install your nvidia module then? |
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| 17:06.34 | meder | the dkms is how i did it |
| 17:06.35 | meder | just now |
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| 17:06.49 | meder | but i had nvidia installed prior to this, through the 686 package |
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| 17:07.11 | mxv | somiaj: Thanks. It's on a pretty fresh insall, I'll see how it goes. Thanks. |
| 17:08.02 | meder | xserver-xorg-video-nvidia's readme.txt.gz has 5400M there, not sure if thats being used but .. |
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| 17:12.17 | meder | brb restart |
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| 17:19.01 | onethfour | is there a way to grep for "foo" and then search again for something only within the files that "foo" was found in? |
| 17:19.29 | virusuy | onethfour: yeap |
| 17:19.37 | virusuy | cat file | grep foo | grep somethingelse |
| 17:19.48 | Aleks3Y | he want's files |
| 17:20.00 | onethfour | yeah thats the trick |
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| 17:20.03 | Aleks3Y | do the loop i guess |
| 17:20.10 | Aleks3Y | for loop |
| 17:20.24 | virusuy | onethfour: that works if what you are greping is in a file |
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| 17:20.57 | Aleks3Y | in bash smth like that: for files in `get your file paths here`; do grep blabla ; done |
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| 17:21.15 | onethfour | actually i know what i could do |
| 17:21.16 | Aleks3Y | do grep blabla $files |
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| 17:21.49 | somiaj | the -H flag will tell you what file the match was in, you could then use awk/sed to parse out the file name and run a grep command on each one |
| 17:21.50 | onethfour | grep -B 99999 -A 9999 "foo" | grep "bar" |
| 17:21.55 | onethfour | like that right? |
| 17:22.24 | onethfour | that should kinda sorta work |
| 17:22.34 | somiaj | provided your files aren't super long (; |
| 17:22.55 | onethfour | the only problem is multiple finds in 1 file |
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| 17:24.00 | Aleks3Y | onethfour: use bash |
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| 17:24.08 | Aleks3Y | what i told you + uniq |
| 17:24.21 | somiaj | grep -H -c foo filelist will give you output like 'filename:number' where number is the number of times it matches the string |
| 17:24.33 | onethfour | yeah that should work |
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| 17:24.47 | tvm | you could probably do something like grep -l foo * | xargs grep bar |
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| 17:25.15 | somiaj | ahh yea -l is a better option, hadn't found that yet |
| 17:25.30 | onethfour | yeah i was looking for the one-liner |
| 17:25.30 | onethfour | instead of writing a bash script |
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| 17:26.09 | tvm | bash script ? well, for i in *; do grep -q foo "$i" && grep "bar" "$i"; done |
| 17:26.24 | tvm | if i found in the given file, find also bar |
| 17:26.33 | tvm | s/i/foo/g |
| 17:26.36 | Aleks3Y | no |
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| 17:26.46 | Aleks3Y | in `in` you have to get list of file names |
| 17:26.55 | tvm | * expands to list of filenames |
| 17:26.55 | Aleks3Y | use grep / awk / uniq |
| 17:26.56 | tvm | .-) |
| 17:27.17 | tvm | it's regular shell glob, as always. |
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| 17:27.46 | Aleks3Y | sorry missed your `grep -l foo * | xargs grep bar` |
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| 17:28.37 | Aleks3Y | yeah that will work |
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| 17:29.31 | onethfour | you could also use ack --files-from |
| 17:29.40 | onethfour | after grabbing the initial results |
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| 17:31.52 | punjab-pete | How do I select a random file from a directory? |
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| 17:33.02 | punjab-pete | I have used it in the past to select a music file to play. |
| 17:33.34 | spiteful | punjab-pete: take a look here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/414164/how-can-i-select-random-files-from-a-directory-in-bash |
| 17:34.09 | punjab-pete | spiteful, Thanks! I will check it out. |
| 17:34.16 | tvm | well, quickest would be probably to use random sort, although it won't be probably most efficient |
| 17:34.23 | tvm | ls | sort --random-sort | head 1 |
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| 17:34.28 | tvm | ls | sort --random-sort | head -1 |
| 17:34.29 | tvm | that is |
| 17:35.23 | somiaj | though it would probabaly take a very very large list of files in a directory to make modern hardware make it seem slow |
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| 17:36.10 | tvm | indeed. |
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| 17:37.01 | tvm | well, you can always make up something with shell built in $RANDOM |
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| 17:37.21 | somiaj | yea to bad /dev/random would need to be parsed |
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| 17:37.57 | tvm | you could do some simple test on $RANDOM value and loop over the files, if the test succeeds, list the file |
| 17:38.24 | runa | heyas. I had a raid with md. the first disk (A) has some bad sectors so I want to change it; but it also the booteable disk. how can I do to make disk B booteable, so I can remove disk A, place disk B and rebuild the array? |
| 17:38.45 | jelly-home | tvm: if you like being silly, find ... -print0 | xargs -0 grep -lZ foo | xargs -o grep -l bar |
| 17:38.51 | jelly-home | erm |
| 17:38.55 | jelly-home | s/-o/-0/ |
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| 17:39.49 | jelly-home | grep -Z seems to be made exactly for that sort of thing |
| 17:40.18 | tvm | jelly-home: heh, never tried -Z |
| 17:40.24 | yeehi | wheezy did not automatically get cpu integrated graphics working on installation. Is there an easy way to get the 3D intel support going? |
| 17:40.32 | jelly-home | onethfour: find ... -print0 | xargs -0 grep -lZ foo | xargs -0 grep -l bar |
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| 17:41.09 | onethfour | what is the find part for? |
| 17:41.18 | tvm | to list files |
| 17:41.19 | onethfour | the files come from grepping |
| 17:41.39 | tvm | they don't they get passed over the pipe to xargs |
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| 17:41.41 | jelly-home | find select an initial list of files of your choosing |
| 17:41.46 | jelly-home | selects* |
| 17:41.48 | onethfour | thats not the point though |
| 17:41.58 | onethfour | the point is to use only the files found inside of a grep |
| 17:42.07 | Guest85952 | What software is running on Gnome remote desktop? |
| 17:42.17 | onethfour | ack -l "foo" | ack -x "foo|bar" |
| 17:42.21 | onethfour | that seems to work |
| 17:42.29 | jelly-home | onethfour: no, that's just the most common way of getting \0 delimited file names into a pipe |
| 17:42.49 | onethfour | -l lists the files, -x accepts the files |
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| 17:43.13 | onethfour | i understand that but the filenames arent coming from "find" they are coming from "grep" |
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| 17:43.49 | tvm | wrong, they're coming from find. |
| 17:44.01 | tvm | first grep passes a filelist to second grep though. |
| 17:44.17 | tvm | hence the '-l' |
| 17:45.01 | jelly-home | onethfour: feel free to replace find with a * or -R . argument for the first grep, or whatever you like |
| 17:45.05 | Guest85952 | I am having trouble using remote desktop with a chrome remote desktop software |
| 17:45.14 | jelly-home | grep -lZ foo * | xargs -0 grep -l bar |
| 17:45.24 | Guest85952 | chrome remote desktop asks for a pin. |
| 17:45.31 | jelly-home | prefers find to grep's -R |
| 17:45.44 | onethfour | jelly, ooooooh i see, i'm sorry you were rightt |
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| 17:46.39 | jelly-home | this would all be much easier in PowerShell! :-D |
| 17:46.44 | tvm | not! |
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| 17:46.46 | tvm | :D |
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| 17:47.07 | LinuxGold | DOS! :P |
| 17:47.10 | LinuxGold | erm |
| 17:47.13 | LinuxGold | hides |
| 17:47.15 | onethfour | well i found a solution that works |
| 17:47.17 | tvm | %darkmagic% |
| 17:47.25 | Guest85952 | UNder system preferences there is remote desktop but how to tell what version etc. etc. |
| 17:47.37 | kimda | i've got a problem with bridge networking. It will work fast for the first 5 hours and after that it has trouble connecting with the outside. Ex. pinging from the host to another host. Are there any known problems for debian squeeze with backport kernel/kvm? |
| 17:47.49 | onethfour | ~/bin/ack -l "foo" --php | ~/bin/ack -x "foo|bar" --pager="less -R" |
| 17:49.36 | Guest85952 | So anybody here know how to figure out what type of remote desktop Gnome is giving me? |
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| 17:53.05 | aktau | Hey guys, just having my first adventure with LVM here, and I'm pretty excited |
| 17:53.06 | marti_n | Hello. What's best practise when upgrading from lenny to wheezy? I guess uppgrading to squeeze first is recommended, but what do I have to put in my sources.list in order to be able to upgrade to squeeze which is not latest? |
| 17:53.35 | aktau | I created a new logical volume, but it's flags are -wi-a- |
| 17:53.41 | aktau | It should be -wi-ao, afaik |
| 17:54.00 | aktau | Does anybody know what I could have done wrong? I basically followed the guide |
| 17:55.12 | jordanm | !tell marti_n about lenny->squeeze |
| 17:55.48 | Guest85952 | WHy create a new logical volume? |
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| 17:57.26 | aktau | Guest85952: because I'm migrating my vanilla setup to LVM |
| 17:57.31 | jelly-home | aktau: why do you care about the flags anyway, what fails to work? |
| 17:57.48 | galex-713 | Hello, Why does Tor on my Debian Wheezy server use v0.2.3.25 ? It seems that versions anterior to 2.3 use 1024bits RSA keys so they are vulnerable to NSA |
| 17:57.53 | aktau | jelly-home: haven't tried if it works or not, just don't want to mess things up and the flag seems missing |
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| 17:58.28 | jelly-home | aktau: it's alright, don't worry |
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| 17:59.07 | galex-713 | http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/09/tor-is-still-dhe-1024-nsa-crackable.html#.Ui3Q_BavgY7 |
| 17:59.18 | onethfour | oo check out my cool bash script: https://gist.github.com/6527332 |
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| 18:00.57 | aktau | jelly-home: alright, I wont worry then |
| 18:01.26 | jelly-home | onethfour: what happens when you have a filename with spaces? |
| 18:01.49 | onethfour | dkdc |
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| 18:02.06 | onethfour | famous computer science phrase i learned |
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| 18:02.40 | jelly-home | best noone else ever uses that script ehhh |
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| 18:03.15 | jelly-home | (this is perfectly fine for one-off hacks) |
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| 18:04.41 | onethfour | well yah you gotta be root for it to work |
| 18:04.45 | onethfour | etc |
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| 18:04.49 | onethfour | and --php lol |
| 18:05.06 | onethfour | no idea how to transfer - or -- arguments over |
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| 18:07.27 | eb0t | on boot my machine says FAIL jetty not installed..is that a problem |
| 18:07.51 | jelly-home | eb0t: only if you need jetty? |
| 18:08.29 | eb0t | right ...im wondering why its expecting something that isnt installed...as i did a pretty standard install jelly-home |
| 18:08.47 | jelly-home | more context required. |
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| 18:10.35 | eb0t | thats the issue i dont know why it is not there...thats all the context..all i have is a basic install.... |
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| 18:10.51 | eb0t | i dont know why my system is looking for jetty in the first place |
| 18:11.13 | eb0t | maybe ill just install it and see what happens |
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| 18:16.10 | eb0t | right that solved it |
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| 18:16.56 | eb0t | no more jetty worries |
| 18:17.23 | jater | Can I run a website on a 3Mb/s network connection? |
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| 18:18.01 | eb0t | i think you can jater...even a t1 connection is only 1.544Mb/s |
| 18:18.14 | eb0t | its just that T1 is guaranteed at all times |
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| 18:18.43 | eb0t | yours may have performance issues ....even though its faster than a dedicated T1 line |
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| 18:20.08 | eb0t | it may also be worth speaking to your ISP to find out your upload speed..which if your using an asynchronous line like asdl will be quite low |
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| 18:20.31 | eb0t | and compare this to the upload speed your ISP will provide you with for a dedicated T1 line |
| 18:20.50 | eb0t | if your site is not going to be getting thousands of hits all day....you will be fine. |
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| 18:33.38 | jhutchins | jater: Depends on what you want to do with it. I have 1M up and I use it for webmail and nagios away from home. |
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| 18:43.53 | kimda | hello. I am experiencing network problems. The network is working perfectly for about 5 hours after that I am having problems pinging certain sites and connecting with a database running as a kvm guest. I am using squeeze with backports kernel/kvm. Any ideas what could be causing these issues? |
| 18:44.14 | yeehi | is jigdo the predominant means of downloading debian ISOs? If not, why not? And why aren't other distros using jigdo, too? |
| 18:44.23 | Rackmount | kimda: the first place I would look is the logs to make sure the line protocol isn't flapping |
| 18:44.38 | Rackmount | yeehi: it's the preferred method, because it's faster. |
| 18:44.53 | kimda | Rackmount, would that be syslog? |
| 18:45.10 | Rackmount | kimdo: /var/log/messages |
| 18:45.10 | somiaj | yeehi: it use to be suggested a lot in debian, but banwidth isn't the issue it once was. Also easier to just point someone to the iso and get it over http which is my guess what is used. |
| 18:45.26 | somiaj | yeehi: since most only grab the netinstall iso it is small and quick from the debian.org servers |
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| 18:45.54 | Rackmount | jigdo can download iso images faster than http |
| 18:46.32 | kimda | I do not see anyt messages besides iptable messages |
| 18:46.34 | yeehi | really? net install is the most popular? I am surprised. Isn't it a bit tricky to verify the files in a netinstall? I would have thought it would be safer to get the whole dvd and check it and then install from there... somiaj |
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| 18:47.32 | kimda | the network is still accessible though. I can ssh to the host and even ping it from here when these issues occur |
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| 18:48.14 | Rackmount | kimda: sounds like a problem related to the running service(s) then |
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| 18:48.31 | somiaj | yeehi: netinstall contains a base system. And then from there you only download the packages you want from an offical debian mirror. there is a keyring to verify the idenity of the server. |
| 18:48.45 | kimda | how can this effect something basic like ping? |
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| 18:49.34 | Rackmount | kimda: I thought you said ICMP echo requests are getting replies when the issue occurs? |
| 18:49.40 | yeehi | thanks, somiaj |
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| 18:50.19 | kimda | i can ping from here (home) to the host. But for example the host cannot ping certain addresses or it is just really slow |
| 18:50.46 | Rackmount | kimda: is the issue isolated to just that host? |
| 18:50.50 | kimda | for example i can ping now www.facebook.com from the host but in 5 hours it wont be able to do this anymore |
| 18:50.59 | kimda | yes seems that way |
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| 18:51.16 | kimda | i haven't tried the kvm guest running on it |
| 18:51.28 | Rackmount | Can you ping IP addresses from that host while pinging hostnames fails? |
| 18:51.32 | kimda | its a intel network driver. igb |
| 18:51.41 | SmashingX | is there any command similar to net send in windows to send messages to other computers over a LAN in linux? |
| 18:51.48 | Rackmount | kimda: sounds like something going on with DNS. Is resolv.conf being changed at all when this issue occurs? |
| 18:52.10 | kimda | haven't tried that just pinging the guest and hosts which are doing fine |
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| 18:52.50 | kimda | another thing that occurs is slow access to a database. which is instant now but will take about 10 secconds later (same like with the pinging) |
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| 18:53.42 | Rackmount | kimda: do you have to reboot that host to get the behavior to stop? |
| 18:53.54 | kimda | when i restart the network everything is fine again |
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| 18:54.08 | kimda | yes a reboot would do the same behaviour |
| 18:54.34 | Rackmount | kimda: hmmm... I dunno, but it sounds like something goofy going on with the network driver. |
| 18:54.40 | kimda | what i also noticed is this: when i boot (hp DL 380 G8) |
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| 18:55.28 | kimda | i see this message: Your BIOS is broken and requested that x2apic be disabled |
| 18:55.34 | eb0t | im installing java 7 in wheezy....in the packages section of the wiki it says they are stable and it names several packages for java 7 all of which are stable |
| 18:55.40 | kimda | now...i havbe acip enabled on the guest |
| 18:55.52 | kimda | could it be that this is causing this erratiuc behaviour? |
| 18:56.09 | rm_work | I'm trying to package something and somehow "init-system-helpers" is getting injected into my dependencies (via mypackage.substvars, it looks like) during the dpkg-buildpackage run, and I have no idea where the hell that's coming from, because that package doesn't even exist in quantal (the distro i'm on) and the string doesn't come up from an rgrep of my whole source directory… T_T |
| 18:56.10 | eb0t | but when i install it says untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed |
| 18:56.37 | eb0t | why is this...in the wiki it says they are stable ...but on the install it says they are untrusted |
| 18:56.45 | somiaj | eb0t: what package are you installing? openjdk is in wheezy and you shouldn't need to use outside packages |
| 18:56.59 | somiaj | ,v openjdk-7-jre |
| 18:57.00 | judd | Package: openjdk-7-jre on i386 -- wheezy: 7u3-2.1.7-1; jessie: 7u21-2.3.9-5; wheezy-security: 7u25-2.3.10-1~deb7u1; sid: 7u25-2.3.12-4 |
| 18:57.15 | eb0t | im installing openjdk-7-jdk in wheezy |
| 18:57.16 | rm_work | Asking in #ubuntu as well, but figured people here would also be knowledgeable about … building debian packages :P |
| 18:57.35 | eb0t | and it gives me these warnings |
| 18:58.02 | somiaj | rm_work: this isn't the place to support ubuntu even if it is building deb packages. I would suggest you start by reading the debian new matainers guide |
| 18:58.13 | somiaj | eb0t: can you paste the output of 'apt-cache policy openjdk-7-jdk' |
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| 18:58.46 | eb0t | how do i get the apt cache policy somiaj |
| 18:59.04 | rm_work | somiaj: alright. I've built a lot of packages before on both debian and ubuntu, just never had this problem with phantom deps appearing. I'll just stay on the #ubuntu side I guess |
| 18:59.17 | somiaj | eb0t: you type that exact command I gave you |
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| 18:59.23 | Rackmount | kimda: I though ACPI issues had been rectified long ago, but I suppose it's conceivable. |
| 18:59.30 | eb0t | do i need the comma |
| 18:59.47 | somiaj | eb0t: no I put the whole command in quotes to isolate it from my sentance |
| 19:00.16 | somiaj | rm_work: that is strange, most likely something with your debian/ directory of which the new matainers guide explains in great detail |
| 19:00.22 | kimda | Rackmount, I can try disabeling it just to see if it would make a difference |
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| 19:01.05 | eb0t | i just typed v oprnjkf-7-jre......and got command not found |
| 19:01.09 | eb0t | open |
| 19:01.41 | somiaj | eb0t: apt-cache policy openjdk-7-jdk |
| 19:01.44 | rm_work | somiaj: yeah, i know in general what all the files do, and what substvars is for, the part i find interesting is that the string that's getting added to substvars *does not appear anywhere in the debian/ directory, according to rgrep*. SO strange. |
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| 19:02.25 | rm_work | somiaj: I will read it again, but don't expect it to tell me much I don't already know. when it clearly describes my problem though, I will be sure to come back and let you know so you can say "I told you so" :P |
| 19:02.25 | kimda | Rackmount, could it be like someone here said: disable lro on the device? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=666386 |
| 19:02.57 | somiaj | rm_work: yea not sure about your problem. for debian users for things out side of my experience (Which is a lot) I suggest going to #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 19:03.21 | rm_work | I'll head over there after I finish with the maintainers doc |
| 19:03.22 | rm_work | thanks |
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| 19:04.21 | somiaj | rm_work: agian if your issue is due to changes in ubuntus packing utilities you will only frustrate those helping you. (: |
| 19:05.08 | eb0t | it just says it its 500 http://security debian.org/wheezy updates/main i386 packages |
| 19:05.24 | Rackmount | kimda: I don't know. I've honestly never run into the behavior you're experiencing, so I'm reluctant to recommend any specific changes. :\ |
| 19:05.39 | eb0t | and500 http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/wheezy /main i386 packages |
| 19:05.51 | somiaj | eb0t: having the output I asked for would be helpful. you can paste it at paste.debian.net |
| 19:06.01 | Rackmount | kimda: is that host doing anything differently than the defaults with MTU size? |
| 19:06.08 | kimda | Rackmount, I understand. its just very very frustrating |
| 19:06.12 | somiaj | eb0t: and apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk gives you the untrusted packages? |
| 19:06.19 | eb0t | i cant paste as this is a different pc....sorry...i had to type it out |
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| 19:06.22 | eb0t | yes somiaj |
| 19:06.26 | SmashingX | is there any command similar to net send in windows to send messages to other computers over a LAN in linux? |
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| 19:06.34 | eb0t | but i use aptitude rather than apt-get |
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| 19:06.54 | Rackmount | kimda: I've seen oversized mtu do screwy things like "this site is reachable, but this other site is not". |
| 19:06.58 | somiaj | eb0t: okay use aptitude |
| 19:07.10 | somiaj | SmashingX: what kinda messages are you wanting to send? |
| 19:07.26 | kimda | what i do see now...on the guest ipv6 is disabled |
| 19:07.32 | kimda | but not on the host |
| 19:07.39 | SmashingX | somiaj: what kind? just plain text messages.. |
| 19:07.41 | SmashingX | simple |
| 19:08.33 | eb0t | hey i checked the policy on java 6 somiaj and its already installed |
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| 19:08.46 | eb0t | so i think ill stick with java 6 |
| 19:08.57 | somiaj | SmashingX: if you are on the same machine there is the 'write' command, and you can get to another machine via ssh. But I really don't know of any basic messaging protocol. There are also lots of IM clients you could use |
| 19:09.57 | Monotoko | If I set up my own DNS on my virtual network, and added "dev.local" for example, would I then be able to look it up on another box on that network, and get to a third server that it's pointing at? |
| 19:09.57 | SmashingX | I was thinking of any CLI commands |
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| 19:10.09 | SmashingX | simple commands like net send |
| 19:10.24 | hesco | on a new installation of wheezy, trying to mount a mass stoarge device on a cell phone connected by usb, what device am I looking for here? and what file system should I use? |
| 19:10.39 | eb0t | and somaj thanks for the apt-cach POLICY STATEMENT..IT SHOWS ME IF ITS ALREADY INSTALLED |
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| 19:11.39 | somiaj | SmashingX: did 'write' not work for you, man write? |
| 19:11.50 | somiaj | SmashingX: there is also mesg and talk |
| 19:12.23 | SmashingX | didn't you said that I have to be connected to ssh to use those commands? |
| 19:12.41 | somiaj | SmashingX: you have to be on the machine yes, they are for users on the same machine |
| 19:12.52 | SmashingX | on the same machine? |
| 19:13.06 | somiaj | SmashingX: you can have multiple users loged onto the same machine. very common in *nix |
| 19:13.11 | SmashingX | I want to send messages to another machine in the network |
| 19:13.14 | SmashingX | no to my same machine |
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| 19:13.24 | somiaj | SmashingX: so ssh to that machine and then write the user you want to talk to |
| 19:13.34 | SmashingX | There's no ssh server in that machine |
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| 19:14.15 | SmashingX | and I don't know the password of that machine so I can't install it |
| 19:14.33 | somiaj | SmashingX: http://askubuntu.com/questions/61995/chat-over-lan-from-linux-to-linux |
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| 19:15.09 | SmashingX | somiaj: apoparently we are in the same page |
| 19:15.41 | SmashingX | I was looking at it before but for that command I have to be able to connect to that machine via ssh or physically |
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| 19:16.02 | somiaj | looks like 'talk' the command I mention will work if you install talkd on the server. Again the other computer has to be listening for such messages and by default it won't be |
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| 19:16.27 | somiaj | hence the 'nc -l port' advise as the top rated choice, you first have ot make the machine listen. ssh is just a common thing on most linux boxes |
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| 19:18.18 | SmashingX | so that's why I said a similar command to net send |
| 19:18.36 | SmashingX | because with that command in windows you didn't have to do anything in the other computer |
| 19:18.50 | SmashingX | you just typed the command and the other computer would recieve it |
| 19:18.54 | somiaj | SmashingX: that is because windows has tons of services running and already has a dameon running by default listening for such sends |
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| 19:19.23 | somiaj | linux does not do that (espically debian). We do not just put tons of services listening on the internet for commands. You have to choose one, install it if you want it. so install talkd or use the netcat solution. |
| 19:19.26 | SmashingX | so I guess there's no a way to do it if I don't have an access to that computer firts |
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| 19:19.36 | Rackmount | ie: security concerns really |
| 19:19.43 | SmashingX | first |
| 19:19.58 | somiaj | not unless someone else configured the box to be listening for such messages. again ssh is probably one of the few very common things listening on many linux machines. |
| 19:20.00 | Rackmount | something Microsoft still doesn't seem to get to this day. |
| 19:20.01 | kimda | Rackmount, the only thing i have in sysctl.conf = net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-arptables = 0, net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-iptables = 0, net.bridge.bridge-nf-call-ip6tables = 0 |
| 19:20.36 | SmashingX | there are other |
| 19:20.38 | SmashingX | others |
| 19:20.47 | SmashingX | like, samba, http and ssh |
| 19:21.04 | SmashingX | vnc |
| 19:21.41 | eb0t | have you tried to telnet into the other computer |
| 19:21.44 | somiaj | they are not installed by default on debian systems, and of them ssh is probabaly the most common. |
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| 19:21.48 | eb0t | smashingx |
| 19:21.58 | somiaj | you can use nmap to see what ports are listening if you really want |
| 19:22.22 | Rackmount | kimda: I kinda wonder about turning off calling arp tables. |
| 19:22.29 | SmashingX | somiaj you have to also install ssh |
| 19:22.45 | SmashingX | eb0t: please, read my previous comments |
| 19:23.09 | kimda | Rackmount, what i also noticed is that arp -a is really slow. Could it be that it is an arp issue with the mac addresses? |
| 19:23.11 | eb0t | sorry i was on a different pc..just read the whole page..but none before |
| 19:23.16 | SmashingX | somiaj: I already did that thanks |
| 19:23.41 | somiaj | SmashingX: yes you do, and you have to install any other service to be listening on the net for messages. all I said was ssh is one of the most common things I would expect to find on most linux boxes, hence my first suggestion was using that. |
| 19:23.59 | SmashingX | somiaj: yes you're right |
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| 19:24.20 | kimda | Rackmount, I could reenable arptables |
| 19:24.26 | SmashingX | well whatever, I guess I won't be able to send messages |
| 19:24.37 | SmashingX | I just have another question |
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| 19:24.56 | somiaj | not if you don't configure the box to accept them. Once you do, that is a different story. (: |
| 19:25.04 | SmashingX | I already set my computer to put the screen to sleep if computer is inactive for 1 hour |
| 19:25.21 | SmashingX | but it keeps putting the screen to sleep like every 5 minutes |
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| 19:25.26 | SmashingX | I don't know what to do |
| 19:25.29 | Rackmount | kimda: Essentially, that sysctl parameter turns off passing arp to arptables forwarding chain |
| 19:25.33 | jhutchins | ,versions minetest |
| 19:25.34 | judd | Package: minetest on i386 -- wheezy: 0.3.1+dfsg-4; jessie: 0.4.6+repack-6; sid: 0.4.7+repack-3 |
| 19:25.35 | SmashingX | lokisimo |
| 19:25.36 | somiaj | SmashingX: what did you use to set it up for an hour? |
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| 19:26.01 | SmashingX | power management |
| 19:26.03 | somiaj | SmashingX: xorg has its own default blanking tools you can configure with xset (man xset) |
| 19:26.11 | Rackmount | It seems to me that this would be innocuous in a single-NIC host, but with multiple NICs and bridged at that, I can see how that *might* cause some screwyness. |
| 19:26.17 | somiaj | SmashingX: it might be the powermanagment tools are seperate of that for your DE |
| 19:26.28 | somiaj | SmashingX: try this 'xset s off' and 'xset -dpms' -- does that fix your issue? |
| 19:26.34 | kimda | Rackmount, I do not have specific arptables running like iptables. should i try to reenable? |
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| 19:26.50 | somiaj | SmashingX: note I'm unsure what to do to make it so you don't have to type those commands each time you log into X. |
| 19:27.15 | SmashingX | well I didn't get any output from those commands |
| 19:27.28 | Rackmount | kimda: ah, bad assumption on my part. :P Still, I might be inclined to try removing that parameter setting JustToSee(tm). |
| 19:27.33 | somiaj | SmashingX: no output is a good thing |
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| 19:27.41 | somiaj | SmashingX: only way to test though is to wait. |
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| 19:27.50 | SmashingX | an hour... |
| 19:27.51 | SmashingX | lol |
| 19:27.59 | Rackmount | Of course, if the host is remote, I would take distance and gas money into account. ;) |
| 19:28.09 | somiaj | SmashingX: well 5min |
| 19:28.16 | kimda | Rackmount, I just disabled it manually sysctl -w ... lets see if this is causing these problems |
| 19:28.18 | somiaj | SmashingX: if it doesn't work in 5min, you know you at least stoped that. (: |
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| 19:28.36 | SmashingX | somiaj: with those commands, how long it was set for my screen to go to sleep? |
| 19:28.51 | yehoshua | sono qui |
| 19:28.56 | somiaj | SmashingX: the 5min is the default, those commands disabled the default xorg screen blanking |
| 19:29.07 | somiaj | SmashingX: my guess is the power managment tools of your desktop are using something else |
| 19:29.09 | SmashingX | well, you're right, but I also want to be able to have control of how long I want my screen to go to sleep |
| 19:29.29 | SmashingX | so if it fixes my problem, how can I control that in the fucture? |
| 19:29.30 | somiaj | SmashingX: well you can set it for say 10mins, see if it works then set it back to an hour. |
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| 19:30.12 | somiaj | SmashingX: I don't know the best way. Write a start script that runs those two commands each time you log into X. but I have to run, wish I had better advise for that. I type them manually in each time I need it. But i only log into X reboot every few months so it isn't a big deal |
| 19:30.25 | SmashingX | ok |
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| 19:30.41 | SmashingX | somiaj, weren't you the guy that helped on the #math channel? |
| 19:30.53 | SmashingX | or use to help on calculus? |
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| 19:33.42 | f8l | yeehi: IIRC Debian in not the only distro to use jigdo. I think Fedora also uses it, but I'm not sure. |
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| 19:37.46 | yeehi | thanks, f8l |
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| 19:39.54 | kimda | Rackmount, I just looked at http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking. Could the Circumventing Path MTU Discovery issues with MSS Clamping be causing this behaviour? It has a iptables line which i could add to my iptables. |
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| 19:41.09 | Rackmount | kimda: Well, like I said earlier, I've seen improper MTU sizes cause some of the symptoms you described, so I'm inclined to think it's a possibility. |
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| 19:43.27 | eb0t | i have done a $ sudo aptitude purge wine and there is still a .wine directory with files in it in my user account |
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| 19:43.49 | eb0t | can i just delete it....you see i thought purge got rid of everything |
| 19:44.44 | kimda | Rackmount, I just enabled this rule in the firewall. |
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| 19:45.35 | Rackmount | kimda: It might be a good idea to change only one thing at a time, just so that you can be sure of what change affects the issue. Just my $0.02. :) |
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| 19:46.12 | kimda | Rackmount, yes that is a good idea. Thank you for your input :) |
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| 19:46.37 | Rackmount | No worries. Also, if those changes don't affect the issue, a packet capture may also be helpful to understand what's going on. |
| 19:47.07 | up365 | eb0t, shouldn't there be purge --remove in that command |
| 19:48.05 | eb0t | ah up 365 ill look into it...thanks for the pointer |
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| 19:55.56 | natsukao | stop stupid discussions on LKML against ARM Soc, from Linus Torvalds https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/9/9/562 |
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| 20:00.08 | nips | hello, all |
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| 20:00.23 | nips | i was looking for #debian-boot |
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| 20:00.37 | nips | it wasn't listed.. has it disbanded? |
| 20:00.42 | jhutchins | nips: maybe on oftc.org? |
| 20:01.07 | jhutchins | nips: sorry, oftc.net |
| 20:01.18 | nips | lol.. thought you were trolling |
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| 20:02.12 | nips | good call.. looks like it's over there.. never heard of it.. thx |
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| 20:02.49 | jhutchins | !oftc |
| 20:02.50 | dpkg | OFTC is the Open and Free Technology Community, a support/collaboration service. They have an IRC network: irc.oftc.net. You may be connected to OFTC's network. http://www.oftc.net/ See also <freenode>, <oftc move> and <fact sharing>. |
| 20:02.56 | eb0t | my man page for aptitude says .....aptitude [<options>...] {autoclean | clean | } ..i put in command |
| 20:03.07 | eb0t | aptitude purge wine clean |
| 20:03.12 | eb0t | and it says clean not found |
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| 20:03.30 | eb0t | i also tried aptitude purge wine {clean}...........and got the same problem |
| 20:03.33 | jhutchins | eb0t: try purge clean wine |
| 20:03.56 | eb0t | i tried that ..and it tried to delete all files whcich had clean in the name |
| 20:04.04 | eb0t | maybe aptitude is just broken |
| 20:04.19 | jordanm | eb0t: purge and clean can not be used to together |
| 20:04.23 | eb0t | firstly when i purged wine.....there is still a .wine directory left on my pc |
| 20:04.31 | kimda | Rackmount, thank you for your help. I will do some testing. |
| 20:04.49 | jordanm | eb0t: purge will never remove files it didn't install, which includes .wine |
| 20:04.49 | eb0t | ok jordanm ill try clean on its own |
| 20:05.05 | eb0t | but it did install wine |
| 20:05.15 | eb0t | i got it from the wheezy repository |
| 20:05.16 | jordanm | yes, but it didn't install the .wine directory |
| 20:05.26 | jordanm | wine created the .wine directory when it was executed |
| 20:05.39 | jordanm | dpkg/apt has no way of knowing what files programs created after installation |
| 20:05.45 | eb0t | oh ...thank you so much jordanm...you have just clarified a very important point |
| 20:05.57 | eb0t | so i can just manually delete it really now taht wine is gone |
| 20:06.03 | jordanm | yes |
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| 20:06.21 | eb0t | ive been messing with this aptitude thing for over an hour |
| 20:06.35 | eb0t | thanks for solving that .. |
| 20:07.47 | eb0t | i dont know why i tried to install any microsoft applications on debian in the first place.... |
| 20:08.13 | eb0t | in the end my solution was to put a small partition on my hard drive for windows 7 and photoshop |
| 20:08.37 | jhutchins | eb0t: Learn the gimp. |
| 20:08.49 | drifter | be the gimp |
| 20:09.27 | eb0t | yes jhutchins...i was going to but it doesnt seem as quality an application as the photoshop...so i didnt continue with it |
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| 20:09.49 | eb0t | drifter im more of a twerker than a gimp |
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| 20:20.16 | Guest85952 | How come I have remmina for a remote desktop server? |
| 20:20.31 | Guest85952 | Shouldn't I Have gnome-rdp? |
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| 20:21.39 | stormy | ls |
| 20:23.45 | Stormy98 | I wonder if any one can help, i'm running debian wheezy, gnome3 and 3.2.0 and every so often under load it seems to hang and crash, i've looked through the logs but can't see anything that jump out at me, but when i boot into recovery mode I don't have any problems |
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| 20:24.55 | asherawelan | I'm having an issue building an iso, a translation package seems to be missing from my the debian mirror… but inspection it is there? It's like it's not accepting the bz2… any ideas? http://d.pr/i/KKAG << Here is the error |
| 20:25.09 | asherawelan | This is the mirror directory… the file is here… http://cloudfront.debian.net/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/main/i18n/ |
| 20:25.46 | zykotick9 | Stormy98: ahhh, so long as i've been running wheezy (around x-mas time), when i've used gnome3 i've had lockups. doesn't occur when running awesome-wm... best of luck. |
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| 20:36.19 | Stormy98 | zykotick9: so we going for gnome 3 being crap? |
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| 20:38.44 | asherawelan | interesting i have this line in my apt-cache policy… |
| 20:38.46 | asherawelan | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.50 | asherawelan | Any ideas what this means? |
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| 20:41.43 | dispersed | asherawelan: means you're getting some kinda english language translation updates for your system |
| 20:41.54 | zykotick9 | Stormy98: i "have no comment". ;) |
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| 20:42.12 | asherawelan | dispersed: is 500 an error code? |
| 20:42.24 | dispersed | sure sounds like one |
| 20:42.31 | dispersed | anything but 0 is error |
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| 20:42.57 | musca | asherawelan: no, it's the standard priority |
| 20:43.06 | dispersed | 500 Internal Server Error A generic error message, given when no more specific message is suitable |
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| 20:43.54 | asherawelan | ok, does that policy info have any thing to do with the errors Im getting when building a custom iso? See this screen shot.. http://d.pr/i/KKAG |
| 20:44.07 | asherawelan | dispersed: any advise much appreciated |
| 20:44.34 | Stormy98 | zykotick9: haha i guess yes then, i might try it on single screen see if that changes anything, seems ok if i just run shell / pidgen but soon as i i put it under load it dies! :( |
| 20:45.02 | asherawelan | dispersed: this is the content of the apt-cache profile… http://d.pr/n/eNkn |
| 20:45.10 | dispersed | asherawelan: can you ping that IP? you could check it with a browser :p |
| 20:45.15 | dispersed | the URLs that it's trying |
| 20:45.42 | asherawelan | dispersed: the url comes back 404 |
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| 20:45.48 | dispersed | well then it's a faulty URL |
| 20:45.54 | dispersed | or it's removed |
| 20:45.56 | asherawelan | dispersed: sure….. but i have no control |
| 20:46.02 | asherawelan | dispersed: over that |
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| 20:46.33 | asherawelan | asherawelan: there is a bz2 file in there, but I wondered if apt was only loping for a tar? |
| 20:46.49 | dispersed | asherawelan: asherawelan might be right |
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| 20:47.24 | dispersed | maybe your apt it outdated |
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| 20:47.43 | asherawelan | dispersed: hmmm, was working till 14:00 UTC yesterday… file stamp seems to infer in was updated then, do I just wait till some one fixes it? How do I go about updating apt… I tried apt-get update |
| 20:48.33 | dispersed | dunno, probably with "apt-get install apt" |
| 20:48.41 | asherawelan | debhelper: after apt update I get these messages http://d.pr/n/zfS1 |
| 20:48.44 | asherawelan | Let me try that |
| 20:49.01 | asherawelan | apt is already the newest version. |
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| 20:49.19 | dispersed | :) i can't help you further, good luck |
| 20:49.55 | dispersed | maybe you can switch the URLs or the mirror |
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| 20:50.02 | dispersed | but if you have no control, you have no control |
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| 20:52.42 | neon | hi |
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| 20:53.20 | Guest80032 | apt-get distupgrade; regularly forget to install linux-headers for the new kernel |
| 20:53.22 | WilliamDotSI | whats the best way to entirely destroy a running debian system with best chances to stop recovery of data? |
| 20:53.32 | WilliamDotSI | (i sold a dedicxated server and have no kvm to reinstall/boot a drive) |
| 20:53.42 | Guest80032 | which regularly hang me out with no gui |
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| 20:53.53 | Guest80032 | FYI |
| 20:54.11 | Guest80032 | until i manually install it |
| 20:54.23 | rog1121 | any way I can remove python 2.7 without installing python3? |
| 20:54.40 | digdilem | WilliamDotSI, remove the drives to a caddy and DBAN them? |
| 20:54.46 | Guest80032 | just bitching |
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| 20:55.58 | rog1121 | apt-get --reinstall python |
| 20:56.03 | rog1121 | oh boy |
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| 20:56.07 | rog1121 | this isnt ssh |
| 20:56.10 | WilliamDotSI | digdilem: not really possible |
| 20:56.16 | WilliamDotSI | server is in US, i am EU based :) |
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| 20:56.31 | digdilem | without kvm? |
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| 20:57.05 | zerick | is there still support for power5 on Debian ? |
| 20:57.22 | digdilem | WilliamDotSI, may be some way to chroot to a ramdrive and shred the drive, but it's not something I've done |
| 20:57.37 | abrotman | ppc? yes, should be |
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| 21:01.29 | veelium | hello, anyone know how to fix 'xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma' |
| 21:01.43 | veelium | Worked before I updated yesterday |
| 21:01.59 | f8l | rog1121: If you remove programs which depend on it first, yes. |
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| 21:04.00 | tonhe | I'm having some issues doing an automated update of wordpress after updaitng my Debian lenny box to a new kernel. Seeing lots of nf_ct_ftp: dropping packet errors on the console.... |
| 21:04.17 | tonhe | I've disabled my iptables rules, all tables are set to accept with no rules |
| 21:04.26 | tonhe | still seeing the errors |
| 21:05.07 | ompaul | !lenny |
| 21:05.07 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
| 21:05.26 | ompaul | tonhe: maybe it's time to move on |
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| 21:05.58 | tonhe | I have that feeling... I Just have lots of custom configured / compiled apps that I don't want to have to fix. |
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| 21:06.23 | eb0t | how can i get my screen back when it goes black |
| 21:06.25 | ompaul | tonhe: wordpress ... and old apps hmm I'm thinking ... ehh no |
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| 21:06.42 | dondelelcaro | eb0t: usually just move a mouse or hit a key |
| 21:06.44 | ompaul | eb0t: usually pressing teh space bar |
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| 21:07.11 | eb0t | i think its gone into hibernation |
| 21:07.19 | tonhe | ompaul: well, I'm running a custom ngnix server, php-cgi, caching, custom postfix, with spamassassin and such |
| 21:07.32 | jhutchins | eb0t: Is there smoke? |
| 21:08.00 | eb0t | found it....i had to press the switch on button once onmy pc case |
| 21:08.02 | ompaul | tonhe: the delta you create is something you have to be willing to manage - debian gives you packages with security updates :) |
| 21:08.04 | eb0t | and im back in |
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| 21:08.45 | tonhe | ompaul: yeah, I understand that... one of these days I need to move all these servers to something managed. I don't have much time these days for messing with things. |
| 21:08.55 | jhutchins | eb0t: Yeah, that would be one of the suspend modes then. |
| 21:09.01 | tonhe | ompaul: the email portions are the ones that scare me. getting mailman working with virtual domains was a bitch iirc |
| 21:09.28 | eb0t | ah thanks jhutchins...ill have to do something about that i think...it didnt do it yesterday when i was away |
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| 21:15.38 | leitao | hi, how do I discover a problem with sbuild? |
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| 21:16.04 | leitao | It just says "Status: failed", but I can't see why. Any idea? |
| 21:16.24 | leitao | how do I check what is the real issue? |
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| 21:20.42 | jhutchins | leitao: Possibly #debian-mentors over on oftc? |
| 21:20.59 | leitao | jhutchins: will checlk |
| 21:20.59 | jhutchins | leitao: More users than maintainers here. |
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| 21:24.50 | asherawelan | OK, my issue is a dead mirror… how can i get apt to avoid it? |
| 21:24.51 | asherawelan | W: Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/main/i18n/Translation-en 404 Not Found [IP: 46.4.205.43 80] |
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| 21:25.13 | asherawelan | So I want the debian global resolver to avoid 46.4.204.43 |
| 21:25.17 | kingsley | What's a good IRC channel for debugging IRC errors like "Disconnected (Connection timed out)"? |
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| 21:26.03 | jelly-home | probably one for either your irc client or the irc server software used |
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| 21:26.39 | f8l | kingsley: #freenode perhaps. |
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| 21:27.24 | f8l | kingsley: Or a channel for your IRC client before that. |
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| 21:29.48 | f8l | has to learn how to read and type simultaneously… |
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| 21:30.50 | tonhe | apparently performing a dist-upgrade isn't an option... will wreck my VPS container according to my provider |
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| 21:31.40 | lobi | hello. lost power for my laptop and it's go to sllep. affter that i try to boot my computer. bur i get error msg. /bin/sh: can't access tty. job control turned off n/sh: can't access tty. job control turned off |
| 21:31.51 | ompaul | tonhe: time to go and get a new vps provider |
| 21:31.54 | jordanm | tonhe: containers are not VMs, so they depend on things from the host |
| 21:33.19 | tonhe | jordanm: yeah... I've never messed with OpenVZ outside of being a customer |
| 21:33.43 | jordanm | tonhe: it's more like a chroot than a virtual machine |
| 21:33.51 | tonhe | interesting |
| 21:34.10 | tonhe | so I think my only option to fix this is to downgrade the kernel that was accidently upgraded... |
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| 21:35.09 | jordanm | openVZ containers run off of the host's kernel |
| 21:35.51 | tonhe | but they still have their own, right? or how else do you host different OS flavors? |
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| 21:36.25 | jordanm | tonhe: you can run a debian container on a RHEL openVZ kernel |
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| 21:37.02 | jordanm | last I checked openvz only provided host kernels for RHEL and CentOS |
| 21:37.15 | jordanm | tonhe: what does your uname -a say? |
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| 21:38.28 | tonhe | jordanm: 3.2.0-042stab076.8 #1 SMP Tue May 14 20:38:14 MSK 2013 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:39.16 | jhutchins | I can't believe people charge for openvz. |
| 21:39.55 | tonhe | jhutchins: works pretty well for me and the price is right. I just host a few blogs, my email, and some mailing lists. |
| 21:40.05 | jordanm | apparently they do have hosts kernels for debian now |
| 21:40.11 | jordanm | http://download.openvz.org/kernel/branches/debian/wheezy/ |
| 21:40.40 | jordanm | ...only in 32bit? |
| 21:40.56 | tonhe | jordanm: they have x64 hosts, but I don't need the memory overhead |
| 21:41.14 | tonhe | I can do everything I need in less than a gig of memory |
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| 21:42.23 | tonhe | which is weird when I switch back and forth between working on this, and anything at work. Where all of our new hosts have 512GB of memory, and far too many VMs are provisioned with 16gb |
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| 21:44.38 | jordanm | RAM is cheap and disk caching is good |
| 21:45.06 | jordanm | a lot cheaper the scaling out your SANs |
| 21:45.20 | kingsley | What would you do if apt-get and aptitude both said upgrading any of several packages would remove one that's probably needed for printing: hplip-cups ? |
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| 21:45.35 | jhutchins | They've got some servers at work with 1.5TB of RAM. |
| 21:45.42 | jhutchins | No idea what they do. |
| 21:46.16 | jordanm | has to be either a database or a java application :) |
| 21:46.27 | jordanm | or VM hosts |
| 21:46.33 | jhutchins | ;) |
| 21:46.54 | mtn | kingsley: figure out what was wrong with my sources.list |
| 21:47.11 | jordanm | we just put in a blade chassis that has that much RAM |
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| 21:48.35 | rog1121 | f10, what can we google for you today |
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| 22:04.32 | halt | Hi guys, Is tehre any smart way to force the users to create files with the parent folder permission, i want to keep on folder writeble by a group, every file in the folder should owned by the group should have at least rw permission ? |
| 22:05.43 | halt | I'm sure there is better way then crontab and chown -r groupname && chmod -R g+w |
| 22:06.09 | Harzilein | halt: you could look into acls |
| 22:06.13 | gnarface | halt: the most homogeneous solution is to chmod the parent directory g+s and then put all relevant users into that group |
| 22:06.54 | gnarface | halfie: (or, as Harzilein mentions, you could bolt ACLs onto the side of your system, massively overcomplicating and weakening security for something you could do in 1970 with stock features) |
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| 22:07.20 | Harzilein | gnarface: i wanted to put a disclaimer on it, but i was sure someone else could point that out as well :D |
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| 22:07.55 | gnarface | Harzilein: well, to be fair, your solution is the go-to-solution but in this one use case, if its never more complicated than the use case he stated, i'd advise against it |
| 22:08.59 | gnarface | halt: also, reading the man page for chmod might be very educational for you. |
| 22:09.03 | halt | ok thanks i will look into both, till now i also was thinking to resolve it with puppet, that's also just like the cron runs few times |
| 22:09.28 | gnarface | halt: i'd recommend specifically that you look into the "sticky bit" uage |
| 22:09.34 | gnarface | halfie: *usage |
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| 22:10.50 | gnarface | halt: puppet, as far as I understand it, won't "resolve it" in a different way it will just give you a elaborate framework into which you can load someone else's shell script for doing exactly what i described but without having to actually understand it yourself |
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| 22:11.51 | parcs_ | hello |
| 22:11.57 | halt | gnarface: i should read about the sticky bit becasue since now i belived it's just prevent from deleteing and renaming and allow it just for the owner |
| 22:12.38 | gnarface | halt: let me restate that; read up on suid, sguid, *and* the "sticky bit" |
| 22:12.46 | parcs_ | anyone here build gcc from svn on debian? how should one get around the "/usr/include/asm/errno.h does not exist" error? |
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| 22:13.23 | gnarface | halt: if you already understand the sticky bit part, you're 1/3rd of the way there |
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| 22:32.28 | MrKeuner | hello, I have been trying to setup postfix and dovecot but I'd like to start from scratch... it seems like apt-get remove --purge does not remove modified config files |
| 22:32.39 | MrKeuner | how can I remove modified config files as well? |
| 22:33.05 | gnarface | MrKeuner: order of options is important; apt-get --purge remove [package name] |
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| 22:33.54 | gnarface | MrKeuner: with some configuration topologies, it may not be possible to safely/coherently remove files you added yourself |
| 22:34.34 | gnarface | MrKeuner: (in general, the idea is that if you added them yourself you'd either remember it or have had made notes to remind yourself) |
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| 22:35.30 | MrKeuner | gnarface, files I added cannot be removed actually makes sense of course... however, I was hoping for magic there. But modified files should be able to be removed |
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| 22:36.10 | gnarface | MrKeuner: my assumption is that the "--purge" option is being ignored because you put it in the wrong order |
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| 22:36.34 | MrKeuner | gnarface, sure I'll try reordering. thank you |
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| 22:37.08 | gnarface | MrKeuner: also, running this before and after may be educational: dpkg -l |grep [package name] |
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| 22:38.17 | gnarface | MrKeuner: (maybe "dpkg -l *package name*" will work too but i always use grep because then i effectively get uniform behavior from different tools) |
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| 22:38.45 | MrKeuner | does apt-get --purge autoremove also work? |
| 22:38.50 | gnarface | i doubt it |
| 22:38.52 | gnarface | but maybe |
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| 22:39.16 | gnarface | i heard recently "apt-get purge [package name]" has been added as a synonym to "apt-get --purge remove [package name]" so maybe |
| 22:40.09 | eb0t | hey mrkeuner..i had a similar problem to you earlier ..i purged an installation and found there were still files there associated with the installation |
| 22:40.14 | gnarface | MrKeuner: dpkg -l will show you the package status in the leftmost column if you did not successfully completely purge it |
| 22:40.25 | eb0t | in the end it was fine to delete the files manually |
| 22:40.47 | eb0t | because they were not done by the installation process...so they could not be purged. |
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| 22:40.57 | MrKeuner | ebot, in postfix dovecot case, there is just too many config files |
| 22:40.57 | eb0t | they were created by the program that had been installed. |
| 22:41.11 | MrKeuner | well may be not if I simply remove the etc/package directory |
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| 22:41.43 | eb0t | yes i deleted a complete directory with about 100 files in |
| 22:41.51 | eb0t | rm -rv xyz |
| 22:41.56 | eb0t | and its all fine now |
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| 22:42.56 | eb0t | the hard core config files are under root directory so i wouldnt worry much |
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| 22:43.50 | eb0t | in my case i had some configureation under my user directory so it was fine to delete |
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| 22:44.09 | eb0t | when i looked in /etc....there were no files associated with the application that purge missed |
| 22:44.16 | eb0t | so i was all clear |
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| 22:44.48 | eb0t | i didnt have to mess with /etc config files |
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| 22:45.42 | MrKeuner | Actually, I am thinking about respaning a new vm since this a linode node and I did not do much changes yet... |
| 22:45.56 | MrKeuner | I do not want make an error in config files for postfix or dovecot |
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| 23:04.57 | loaden | loaden |
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| 23:06.06 | rneese | ok what would cause this ? |
| 23:06.06 | rneese | ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot-sysv.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. |
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| 23:16.52 | rneese | checking whether gcc accepts -g... ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot-sysv.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. ERROR: ld.so: object 'libfakeroot-sysv.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. |
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| 23:33.50 | Cylta | where to read how to compile kernel? |
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| 23:36.18 | tvm | !tell Cylta about kernel-package |
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| 23:43.31 | elkingrey | Can somebody explain to me if this is normal? http://pastebin.com/qspkDkqP |
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| 23:44.10 | elkingrey | It seems odd to me how many routers are not providing identifying information. |
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| 23:46.04 | gnarface | elkingrey: after the 13th hop when it starts timing out, the amount of hops is no longer accurate either |
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| 23:46.31 | elkingrey | Ahh. Any idea why it times out? |
| 23:46.45 | gnarface | elkingrey: the 14th hop is probably private |
| 23:47.07 | gnarface | elkingrey: *sometimes* you will get better info with traceroute -T |
| 23:47.19 | gnarface | elkingrey: (some routers block icmp but not tcp) |
| 23:47.22 | elkingrey | Okay, cool. Thanks! |
| 23:47.38 | gnarface | you'll have to be root to traceroute -T though i think |
| 23:47.43 | gnarface | but no problem |
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| 23:51.23 | nabblet | hi, i am frequently helping friends on their linux problems. Usually this involves excessive pasting to pastebins (logs, errormessags, output of commands) and i am getting tired of it. under certain conditions we get around it by using tmux and ssh. now i am wondering if a more stable and publicy useable system could be made. something like terminal-streaming. Bob needs help. He streams his terminal to a server. Alice connects to Bob's steam on t |
| 23:52.03 | nabblet | The server is there to avoid all the networking/firewall/routing/NAT hassle |
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| 23:52.29 | jcbjoe | hi all .. im going to ask a question and i don't know how its going to come out .. lol .. i really like aptitude right .. but the search strings seem very complicated .. i know ~n i name ~i is installed the basics .. i want to mix stuff up so i can find stuff faster is there like a dummy guide ? |
| 23:52.40 | iateadonut | how do i use my ipv6 address to bind outgoing traffic? |
| 23:53.24 | nabblet | My question: Does something like this already exist and i don'T know of it? |
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| 23:55.19 | gnarface | nabblet: your first statement was cut off by the server at "... connects to Bob's steam on"| - cut |
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| 23:59.16 | nabblet | gnarface: thx for pointing out! Followup: Bob needs help. He streams his terminal to a server. Alice connects to Bob's steam on the server and spectates Bob's actions. |
| 23:59.44 | nabblet | gnarface: so what i am looking for is some kind of teamviewer for terminal |
| 23:59.46 | somiaj | what is a good program to print a jpeg (Such that it scales it to fit the page)? |
