| 00:00.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1391] by debhelper |
| 00:00.44 | *** join/#debian crus (~crusader@2001:44b8:319e:2900:8176:98e4:db2c:1749) |
| 00:01.41 | *** join/#debian dorito_125 (~dorito_12@108-71-149-228.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:02.05 | naibed | phix: free radeonhd driver worked fine on ubuntu |
| 00:02.46 | phix | Personally I use Ubuntu for desktop and Debian for my server |
| 00:03.03 | rryoumaa | when you delete a user using userdel, is it supposed to stay around in /etc/passwd? it seems to do so, but the man page says it should delete it |
| 00:06.33 | phix | rryoumaa: yeah it should |
| 00:06.44 | phix | did you give you any errors? you ran that as root? |
| 00:06.54 | *** join/#debian bitwave_ (~bitwave@c-68-47-12-21.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 00:07.02 | abrotman | rryoumaa: the man page says to use deluser |
| 00:07.07 | phix | hmm, what init script controls automatically bringing up interfaces? |
| 00:07.24 | phix | I rebooted a Debain LXC VM and it's interface didn't come up |
| 00:07.30 | *** join/#debian mystupid (~smoothmoo@c-67-160-11-88.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 00:07.36 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leoneof@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 00:09.05 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (d1cb4502@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.203.69.2) |
| 00:11.13 | *** join/#debian usr (~Thunderbi@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 00:13.49 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@190-59-13-210.dynamic.tstt.net.tt) |
| 00:13.54 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 00:14.56 | *** join/#debian greenut (~greenut@ip70-179-42-181.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 00:15.16 | rryoumaa | i think i got confused between *user and user*. i tried a few things (like adding and then deleting) then deluser and it worked. thanks. |
| 00:17.18 | *** join/#debian bmr (~bmr@128.19.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 00:18.04 | *** join/#debian bl4ckdu5t (~bl4ckdu5t@unaffiliated/bl4ckdu5t) |
| 00:18.10 | *** join/#debian freeayu (~freeayu2@110.81.62.66) |
| 00:18.31 | bl4ckdu5t | I want to search for a file with the strings 'css' and '.pdf', is it ok to use: find |grep 'css' && '.pdf'|more |
| 00:19.31 | rryoumaa | bl4ckdu5t: yes, but you can also use find to do that |
| 00:19.48 | rryoumaa | oops, no, the && is wrong |
| 00:20.10 | bl4ckdu5t | so a single & does it? |
| 00:20.17 | rryoumaa | something like css\\\|\\.pdf |
| 00:23.40 | bl4ckdu5t | That way I got all '.pdf ' files and all files with the string 'css' which isn't what I was hoping. I want something with a list of files that contain both strings only |
| 00:24.18 | abrotman | bl4ckdu5t: man find, you're making this way too hard |
| 00:24.48 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leoneof@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 00:25.31 | *** join/#debian bitwave_ (~bitwave@c-68-47-12-21.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 00:26.29 | *** join/#debian Pengoo (~Pengoo@S0106602ad0726c1f.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 00:27.09 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@96-42-150-164.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 00:27.48 | *** part/#debian dFence (~dFence@cpc6-papw6-2-0-cust104.5-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 00:28.02 | *** join/#debian daveeejr (~quassel@ip-92-73.wireless.oberlin.edu) |
| 00:29.24 | *** join/#debian reavengr1y (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 00:32.09 | *** join/#debian levi501d (~th3m4d0n3@173-8-248-29-Colorado.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 00:32.29 | *** join/#debian agsrv (~guest@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 00:32.35 | *** join/#debian juser (~juser@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 00:32.42 | *** join/#debian jcbjoe (~jcbjoe@c-50-173-42-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:33.47 | *** join/#debian Guest92246 (~agent@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 00:35.24 | *** join/#debian kix__ (~kix@host86-185-113-252.range86-185.btcentralplus.com) |
| 00:35.49 | *** join/#debian chattr (~regnad_kc@72.239.113.237) |
| 00:37.24 | *** join/#debian usr (~Thunderbi@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 00:37.44 | *** join/#debian PhantomGamers (~phantom@unaffiliated/phantomgamers) |
| 00:38.45 | *** join/#debian luser0 (~chatzilla@2602:306:36bb:3d99:21d:72ff:fea4:5b69) |
| 00:40.08 | *** part/#debian kix__ (~kix@host86-185-113-252.range86-185.btcentralplus.com) |
| 00:41.17 | *** join/#debian kchr (kchr@forskningsavd.se) |
| 00:41.17 | *** part/#debian luser0 (~chatzilla@2602:306:36bb:3d99:21d:72ff:fea4:5b69) |
| 00:41.59 | *** join/#debian _bt (foobar@77.240.12.157) |
| 00:42.37 | *** join/#debian dbristow (~dbristow@ool-45719fb7.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:42.38 | *** join/#debian dbristow (~dbristow@nylug/member/dbristow) |
| 00:44.26 | *** part/#debian HALEB0B (~HALEB0B@unaffiliated/haleb0b) |
| 00:47.02 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:47.20 | *** join/#debian danecando (~danecando@c-98-249-250-163.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 00:47.26 | *** join/#debian holmgren (magnus@h-79-68.a163.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 00:47.49 | *** join/#debian DebrisRat (~DebrisRat@78.190.131.85) |
| 00:49.59 | *** join/#debian s3phir0th115 (~s3phir0th@pool-71-113-22-17.rcmdva.east.verizon.net) |
| 00:50.00 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@96-42-150-164.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 00:51.10 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-92-222-96.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 00:54.33 | *** join/#debian vrkalak (~vrkalak@173.5.245.137) |
| 00:55.04 | *** join/#debian dorito_125 (~dorito_12@108-71-149-228.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:55.17 | *** join/#debian KiSM (~KiSM@CPE-124-182-178-195.lns6.pie.bigpond.net.au) |
| 00:56.12 | *** join/#debian Coburn (~coburn@2607:ff68:100:24:1::3f) |
| 00:57.17 | *** join/#debian ndngvr` (~ndngvr@bcaec5e83086.click-network.com) |
| 00:58.54 | *** join/#debian cypherman (~cypherman@r179-31-161-229.dialup.mobile.ancel.net.uy) |
| 01:00.39 | *** join/#debian meti (~meti@unaffiliated/meti) |
| 01:01.22 | *** join/#debian Corerris (~ribe@83.255.131.198) |
| 01:01.24 | *** join/#debian sKeiths (skeith@144.76.77.157) |
| 01:01.37 | *** join/#debian dispersed (~deph@virtual80.tentacle.fi) |
| 01:01.44 | *** join/#debian niklaswe (~niklas@sysstat.se) |
| 01:02.01 | *** join/#debian vedranm (~vedranm@193.198.209.42) |
| 01:02.18 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@anon-56-36.vpn.ipredator.se) |
| 01:02.26 | *** join/#debian Grotesque (~ident@unaffiliated/grotesque) |
| 01:02.27 | *** join/#debian CosmicB (~joar@home.kulturit.no) |
| 01:02.38 | *** join/#debian jordilopezamat (~jordi@190.244.55.163) |
| 01:02.47 | *** join/#debian patsToms (~patsToms@radioa7.lv) |
| 01:04.17 | *** join/#debian maik (~maik@nemo.halfzero.net) |
| 01:05.03 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 01:06.51 | *** join/#debian chrisss404 (~chrisss40@85-127-66-188.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 01:07.44 | *** join/#debian wwraith (syn@5.255.87.166) |
| 01:07.44 | *** join/#debian wwraith (syn@unaffiliated/wwraith) |
| 01:07.45 | *** join/#debian meti_ (~meti@unaffiliated/meti) |
| 01:07.52 | *** join/#debian L-Chymera1 (~chymera@mnhm-4d012c8a.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 01:08.51 | *** join/#debian bugsinlights (~bugsy@vdub.tk) |
| 01:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1384] by debhelper |
| 01:10.03 | *** join/#debian jetblack (~jetblack@108-252-128-242.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:10.33 | *** join/#debian kmels (~kmels@168.234.49.90) |
| 01:10.47 | *** join/#debian tiron (~jeuk@cpe-72-129-111-247.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 01:12.58 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@96-42-150-164.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 01:17.12 | *** join/#debian kchr (kchr@forskningsavd.se) |
| 01:20.13 | *** join/#debian pet2001 (~peter@p5482222D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:20.43 | *** join/#debian Kunda (~Kunda@cpe-70-113-198-251.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 01:21.14 | *** join/#debian l--h3x (~l10nh3x@unaffiliated/l10nh3x) |
| 01:23.10 | *** join/#debian usr (~Thunderbi@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 01:23.48 | *** join/#debian mumpitzel (~mumpitzel@p5B21C2BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:25.51 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@78.110.68.212) |
| 01:26.35 | *** join/#debian pipeep (~pipeep@2605:6400:10:a15d:feed:face:dead:beef) |
| 01:27.05 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 01:27.17 | *** join/#debian imunsie (~imunsie@ibmaus65.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 01:28.03 | *** join/#debian k_sze[work] (~kvirc@101.78.178.186) |
| 01:28.25 | *** join/#debian basic6 (~basic6@p549A0483.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 01:30.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1391] by debhelper |
| 01:33.00 | *** join/#debian hamcore (~rhythm@unaffiliated/hamcore) |
| 01:33.10 | *** join/#debian Sakara (~sadawson@F01xxxxcomm1aus.net.sas.com) |
| 01:37.41 | *** join/#debian MrKeuner (~Kudret@unaffiliated/mrkeuner) |
| 01:38.10 | *** join/#debian rgwu (~rgwu@69.69.205.34) |
| 01:38.51 | *** join/#debian Amanas (~Amanas@70.44.139.29.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) |
| 01:39.23 | *** join/#debian jamesmcveity (~jamesmcve@bas6-windsor12-1177603222.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 01:41.07 | *** join/#debian azcodex- (~azcodex_@173.red-80-26-174.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net) |
| 01:41.45 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 01:41.49 | *** join/#debian CuRb (~natsukao@dynamic-adsl-94-37-198-184.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 01:42.45 | *** part/#debian Virindi (~jess@pool-173-73-6-34.washdc.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:42.56 | *** join/#debian meti (~meti@unaffiliated/meti) |
| 01:44.24 | *** join/#debian meti- (~meti@unaffiliated/meti) |
| 01:45.55 | qais | allo |
| 01:46.11 | *** join/#debian Resilience (fran@85.251.4.66.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 01:46.37 | *** join/#debian HelenaKitty (~s98259@97e716f0.skybroadband.com) |
| 01:46.40 | *** join/#debian Transformer (~Transform@ool-44c4b706.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:46.45 | *** join/#debian reavengrey (~reavengre@unaffiliated/reavengrey) |
| 01:46.56 | *** part/#debian Transformer (~Transform@ool-44c4b706.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 01:47.10 | *** join/#debian juser (~juser@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 01:47.35 | *** join/#debian HelenaKitty (~s98259@97e716f0.skybroadband.com) |
| 01:47.50 | Resilience | hello to everyone |
| 01:47.51 | Resilience | I have lost the partition table of a disk drive with vfat filesystem, it is right now unpartiotened, I have tried to recover the files with photorec but it recovers files without names nor paths, the data might be still there, because it's been written nothing to the disk since losing the partition table, what can I do to recover the fat? |
| 01:48.27 | *** join/#debian agsrv (~guest@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 01:48.54 | *** join/#debian vivenzio_ (~vivenzio@dslb-188-105-132-033.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 01:49.23 | *** join/#debian Guest21057 (~agent@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 01:49.25 | *** join/#debian dimitry7 (~antonello@customer-189-216-253-213.cablevision.net.mx) |
| 01:49.39 | *** join/#debian calisto (~calisto@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 01:50.16 | *** join/#debian austin987 (~austin@199.21.234.7) |
| 01:50.43 | *** join/#debian austeregrim_ (~austeregr@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 01:52.40 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@96-42-150-164.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 01:55.35 | *** join/#debian binaryhat (~binaryhat@pool-96-224-67-193.nycmny.east.verizon.net) |
| 01:55.40 | *** join/#debian iqualfragile_ (~iqualfrag@unaffiliated/iqualfragile) |
| 01:56.10 | *** join/#debian GreenGlow (~greenglow@ccw229.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 01:56.40 | *** join/#debian meti (~meti@unaffiliated/meti) |
| 01:56.42 | *** join/#debian RushNY (~Rush.NY@cpe-74-65-68-95.stny.res.rr.com) |
| 01:57.12 | *** join/#debian XORrdroid (~XORrdroid@95.236.42.30) |
| 01:57.30 | XORrdroid | hi |
| 01:58.20 | XORrdroid | i've installed mtp-tools and gmtp but i cant run mtp-detect as a user . I can only run it as root. Is there a group specific for mtp devices? |
| 01:58.34 | XORrdroid | (a /etc/group ) |
| 01:59.31 | *** join/#debian renebarbosa (~rene@189-71-93-238.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 01:59.31 | *** join/#debian renebarbosa (~rene@unaffiliated/renebarbosa) |
| 02:00.19 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:00.25 | *** join/#debian boblee (~boblee@gateway/tor-sasl/boblee) |
| 02:03.39 | *** join/#debian Quashie (~boingredd@CPEbcc810079c87-CMbcc810079c84.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:04.09 | qman__ | Resilience, try gpart - http://www.brzitwa.de/mb/gpart/ |
| 02:04.14 | *** join/#debian caravel (~caravel@83.230.147.44) |
| 02:04.22 | XORroid | also Vlc is unable to see the device |
| 02:04.22 | *** join/#debian chrisss404 (~chrisss40@85-127-244-74.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 02:05.02 | Resilience | qman__, gpart is the graphical parted, with that I can remade he partition, but, will I recover the data on it? |
| 02:05.09 | qman__ | no |
| 02:05.19 | qman__ | that's gparted, gpart is a different tool |
| 02:06.33 | *** join/#debian jiohdi (~jiohdi@pool-173-65-75-42.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:06.34 | qman__ | gparted is a graphical partitioner built on parted; gpart is a tool used to scan drives and attempt to autodetect existing partitions for recovery purposes similar to yours |
| 02:07.30 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 02:08.25 | *** join/#debian rgwu (~rgwu@69.69.205.34) |
| 02:08.33 | Resilience | qman__, I will make a try, problem is that it was repartiotened with the same partioning and file system that has before.. so... it calls for trouble |
| 02:09.07 | *** join/#debian um|glinda (~ulterior@216.252.1.239) |
| 02:09.26 | qman__ | Resilience, if it was only repartitioned it might find it, but if it was formatted (even quick-formatted) your FAT is probably gone and with it the names of the files too |
| 02:09.36 | *** join/#debian usr (~Thunderbi@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 02:09.37 | *** join/#debian towen (~towen@c-71-235-18-228.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 02:10.33 | *** join/#debian juser (~juser@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 02:10.45 | Resilience | qman__, no, no it was partiotened, then formattedm, then it was written data (THIS is the data I want to recover) then it just dissaparead, and when tryig to recover something with photorec, it recovered from the last partiotinig/formatting, and the other one... I only want the before the formatting |
| 02:10.56 | *** join/#debian frustrum (~frustrum@ip68-4-122-232.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 02:11.26 | jcbjoe | whats the website again for dpkg or debhelper .. its a site where they list all there commands |
| 02:11.36 | qman__ | Resilience, ok, you have a decent chance of this working, gpart is designed to recreate the partition table based on what data is actually on the disk |
| 02:12.10 | Resilience | qman__, I'm reading about qqpart, mayb I can recover the fat with an hex editor? other method? |
| 02:13.04 | XORroid | Resilience: tried Testdisk? |
| 02:13.07 | *** join/#debian hub_ (~agent@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 02:13.18 | *** join/#debian tallest_red (~CNZ@ip98-169-203-78.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 02:13.51 | *** join/#debian tabakhase (~tabakhase@unaffiliated/tabakhase) |
| 02:14.06 | XORroid | Resilience: i had the same problem some days ago. I accidently formatted ext4 on the area of an old partition. All the zone was *zeroed* |
| 02:14.16 | Resilience | XORroid, will try... |
| 02:14.18 | XORroid | Resilience: try to check the area via hexedit |
| 02:14.35 | Resilience | XORroid, my problem is not about formatting it, but about losing the partition |
| 02:15.16 | qman__ | as I said, try gpart |
| 02:15.21 | XORroid | i was unable to recover anything. It was full of zeros. That's because ext4 formatting write zeros in place of the old data. sorry |
| 02:15.23 | qman__ | it will construct a partition table based on waht it finds on the disk |
| 02:15.32 | qman__ | if your FAT is still there and still ok, it will be able to restore your partition |
| 02:16.25 | XORroid | qman__: if that area hasnt been *formatted* it's simply a 'fdisk-like' thing. He can use testdisk to recover the old partition table |
| 02:16.28 | Resilience | qman__, what makes me doubt about it is that photorec recovered files from the pervious partiton... |
| 02:16.44 | Resilience | XORroid, has been formatted |
| 02:16.58 | XORroid | formatted to ext3/4 ? |
| 02:17.07 | qman__ | if it's been formatted then it's probably gone |
| 02:17.13 | Resilience | XORroid, hasn¡t sorry |
| 02:17.14 | qman__ | you said it hadn't been formatted |
| 02:17.37 | qman__ | and in that case, gpart would likely find the old filesystem |
| 02:18.21 | XORroid | Resilience: is the area of the new partition *exactly* the same area of the old one? |
| 02:18.27 | Resilience | qman__, I have corrected myself, hasn't, hasn't it was an spelling error, sorry |
| 02:18.36 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 02:18.41 | Resilience | XORroid, yes, exactly, that's the problem, whole disk |
| 02:19.09 | *** join/#debian lurky1 (amiguete@unaffiliated/amiguete) |
| 02:20.02 | XORroid | Resilience: let say it's /dev/sda3. Let say it was a 10GB FAT partition. And let say you have now a 10GB ext4 partition. Since you *havent* formatted it , it should be possible to do something like: mount -t vfat /dev/sda3 /mnt/ |
| 02:20.29 | qman__ | right, if the partition size lines up, you can do just that |
| 02:20.39 | XORroid | this should work it the position/size of the partition is the same as before. |
| 02:20.44 | qman__ | if you're missing that data, gpart will try to figure it out for you |
| 02:20.51 | qman__ | that |
| 02:20.52 | XORroid | partition table is only a "label" |
| 02:20.56 | qman__ | that's all gpart does |
| 02:21.02 | qman__ | it doesn't write over your filesystem at all |
| 02:21.51 | XORroid | *(position *&* size) |
| 02:22.02 | Resilience | XORroid, eh no, listen (old partition) formatted on fat32, then I mad cfdisk, repatiotened the disk, formatted the disk to fat32 and wirte new data (this is the data I want to recover), offed the machine and when reboting it, there was no data, and there was no aprtition on the disk, so I have tried photorec, and it hs recovered file sfrom the new data and the OLD data... |
| 02:22.20 | *** join/#debian qwert2000 (~qwert2000@180.126.235.155) |
| 02:23.01 | *** join/#debian BostonMA1776 (42c40e68@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.196.14.104) |
| 02:23.06 | qman__ | where did you write the files from photorec? |
| 02:23.29 | qman__ | if you wrote it to the disk you're trying to recover, it's gone |
| 02:23.37 | Resilience | qman__, obviously another different disk :) |
| 02:23.43 | qman__ | if you didn't, set the partition table to the way it was when you had data there |
| 02:23.57 | qman__ | if you don't know what it was, use gpart to figure it out |
| 02:23.58 | XORroid | Resilience: how big the disk? how many partitions before? how many now? |
| 02:24.07 | qman__ | after that, try to mount |
| 02:24.33 | Resilience | qman__, I ddi not that because I was afraid to erase anything, so you ar epropossing that I used cfdisk to partion again the disk, right? |
| 02:24.36 | qman__ | you won't write anything over your data, it will only change the partition table which was already lost anyway |
| 02:24.41 | BostonMA1776 | I am getting the error message 'user is not in the sudoers file this incident will be reported' I tried searching for the error message but the solution requires the ability to log in to su, I tried sudo su but I cannot become su because I am not on the sudoers file. Is there a solution? |
| 02:24.49 | qman__ | it will only modify sector 0 |
| 02:24.54 | Resilience | XORroid, iti is an d old ata3 of 40Gb, only one partition whole disk |
| 02:24.59 | qman__ | neither the FAT nor the data is stored there |
| 02:25.03 | jiohdi | try su by itself, you use the root password |
| 02:25.42 | BostonMA1776 | jiohdi: Thank you. |
| 02:25.58 | BostonMA1776 | jiohdi: That worked. |
| 02:26.01 | jiohdi | :) |
| 02:26.23 | jiohdi | if you use su -l it brings you to the root directory, otherwise whatever directory you are in |
| 02:26.29 | Resilience | qman__, and it does not wirte the fat too? iI thought that cfdisk'ing a disk would wirte the fat table... mayne I'm wrong? |
| 02:26.45 | *** join/#debian zerick (~zerick@190.118.37.136) |
| 02:26.56 | qman__ | Resilience, the FAT is written when you format the disk, not when you partition |
| 02:27.02 | qman__ | if you only set the partitions you won't lose data |
| 02:27.22 | Resilience | qman__, ah, that's righ tman (I have forgotten that) |
| 02:27.33 | Resilience | qman__, I will try cfdisk right know, ok? |
| 02:27.40 | qman__ | yep |
| 02:27.48 | XORroid | Resilience: can you run "fdisk -l" and then paste the output about that disk? |
| 02:28.26 | *** join/#debian forculus (~forculus@unaffiliated/forculus) |
| 02:28.40 | Resilience | qman__, there is aproblem... only one... for fat32 there are 3 types of it.. and I don't remember which one was.. if one of them does not work I'm going to try the 2 other ones, right? |
| 02:28.43 | Resilience | XORroid, yes |
| 02:28.47 | XORroid | qman__: is cfdisk more like fdisk or more like gparted ? (gparted formats !) |
| 02:28.52 | qman__ | Resilience, yes, you can try each one |
| 02:29.02 | Resilience | XORroid, qman__ jus t minute, I have to su myself |
| 02:29.03 | qman__ | xrated, cfdisk actually works more like dos fdisk |
| 02:29.05 | qman__ | er |
| 02:29.17 | qman__ | XORroid, ^ |
| 02:29.30 | *** join/#debian lasers (~lasers@unaffiliated/lasers) |
| 02:30.02 | qman__ | gparted does not format unless you tell it to |
| 02:30.03 | XORroid | qman__: if the area and position is the same, there's no need to redo cfdisk. He/She can still use the -t with the mount command |
| 02:30.18 | qman__ | XORroid, his partition table was wiped and needs recreated |
| 02:30.21 | qman__ | there are no partitions |
| 02:30.36 | *** join/#debian BostonMA1776 (~lh@66.196.14.104) |
| 02:30.45 | Coburn | even if a disk has no partitions |
| 02:30.57 | Coburn | if you know the starting sector of the partition, and the ending sector, you can still mount it |
| 02:31.00 | qman__ | you can mount with no partition table but you have to know the offset |
| 02:31.03 | Resilience | fdisk -l /dev/hdd |
| 02:31.04 | Resilience | Disk /dev/hdd: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes |
| 02:31.04 | Resilience | 16 heads, 63 sectors/track, 77545 cylinders |
| 02:31.04 | Resilience | Units = cylinders of 1008 * 512 = 516096 bytes |
| 02:31.04 | *** kick/#debian [Resilience!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood) |
| 02:31.14 | *** join/#debian Resilience (fran@85.251.4.66.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 02:31.15 | Coburn | sad trombone |
| 02:31.43 | qman__ | and writing a partition table won't do any damage since it's corrupt anyway |
| 02:32.04 | Resilience | sorry for the flood, next time will go to pastebin |
| 02:32.28 | Resilience | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.29 | Resilience | mount: special device /dev/hdd1 does not exist |
| 02:32.31 | *** part/#debian forculus (~forculus@unaffiliated/forculus) |
| 02:32.42 | XORroid | Resilience, qman__, isnt there a "fat" filetype in the photorec options? he could just recover it by scanning the disc with photorec and so dump the partition on another disk. |
| 02:32.43 | Resilience | so no, I cannot mount with the -t switch |
| 02:33.04 | qman__ | XORroid, he already used photorec and it found data from a previous incarnation that he doesn't want |
| 02:33.16 | *** join/#debian tabakhase (tabakhase@unaffiliated/tabakhase) |
| 02:33.20 | Coburn | why photorec? wouldn't testdisk be a more viable option? |
| 02:33.23 | qman__ | Resilience, did you create the partition? |
| 02:33.33 | *** join/#debian mobilebl- (~mobileblu@dslb-094-217-235-073.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 02:33.47 | *** join/#debian ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@unaffiliated/archduker) |
| 02:33.53 | Resilience | XORroid, I have said that I have done that, but the data are not a bunch of files, they are installations, books, soemthing like that, if it lacks order it is of no value... and more over it has recovered data from the old partition... nor the new... that's because my disk wasn't full with the new data (I suppose) |
| 02:34.03 | qman__ | Resilience, if you did create it, you may need to reboot for the kernel to see your new partition table; mounting with an offset is a possible option |
| 02:34.04 | Resilience | qman__, no, I'm going to do it now |
| 02:34.29 | *** join/#debian juser (~juser@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 02:34.45 | XORroid | Coburn: yes, but for some reason he havent followed that advice |
| 02:35.14 | qman__ | gpart would also have done exactly this in one stroke, but eh |
| 02:35.28 | XORroid | qman__: *no* need to reboot |
| 02:35.42 | qman__ | XORroid, sometimes you do, fdisk will warn you if that's the case |
| 02:36.00 | qman__ | but as I said, you don't _have_ to, there are alternatives |
| 02:36.09 | XORroid | qman__: partprobe updates it. use fdisk and then use partprobe |
| 02:36.18 | qman__ | partprobe doesn't always work |
| 02:36.33 | qman__ | and when it doesn't, that's when fdisk warns you |
| 02:36.55 | jcbjoe | hi all .. whats a good way to see what has been added to a repo and if a verison is higher then the one you have ? |
| 02:37.08 | jcbjoe | like i want to check the repo for all new verizons or just new software |
| 02:37.54 | qman__ | apt-get update; apt-get upgrade |
| 02:38.03 | XORroid | qman__: if it's usb disk he could simply use partprobe, then unplug and then plug . And then test with fdisk -l to see if the table has already been updated |
| 02:38.21 | abrotman | jcbjoe: aptitude update;aptitude search '~U' |
| 02:38.24 | qman__ | XORroid, by the fact that it's "hdd" it probably is IDE |
| 02:38.41 | qman__ | trust me, I've done this hundreds of times, I know what I'm talking about |
| 02:38.42 | *** join/#debian ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@unaffiliated/archduker) |
| 02:38.51 | XORroid | qman__: fdisk warn you and then says that you have to run partprobe if you dont want to reboot |
| 02:39.03 | XORroid | qman__: ah. ok |
| 02:39.08 | jcbjoe | thanks abrotman .. you haven't been in here in a couple of days corect ? |
| 02:39.19 | Resilience | mm qman__ . XORroid I have another problem, I'm running testdisk as you said, and it detects me one partition, but it sys is an ext2 partition.. and it makes me dude about the formatting of the partition... what happens if I said ext2 and it was fat32? (or viceversaa) |
| 02:39.59 | *** join/#debian rgwu (~rgwu@69.69.205.34) |
| 02:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1383] by debhelper |
| 02:40.01 | *** join/#debian Guest78455 (~wiz@bl5-230-71.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 02:40.08 | *** join/#debian usr (~Thunderbi@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 02:40.26 | abrotman | jcbjoe: uhm, yes and no .. i'm always here, but not always active ;) |
| 02:40.29 | qman__ | Resilience, what specifically did it prompt you to do? |
| 02:40.41 | *** join/#debian wiz (~wiz@bl5-230-71.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 02:40.54 | Resilience | Disk /dev/hdd - 40 GB / 37 GiB - CHS 77545 16 63 |
| 02:40.54 | Resilience | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:40.54 | Resilience | P ext2 0 0 1 77544 15 63 78165360 |
| 02:41.03 | Guest68669 | whats the best front end for the debian firewall? |
| 02:41.14 | abrotman | vi |
| 02:41.22 | dvs | heh |
| 02:41.23 | *** join/#debian gustavold_web (b194a522@gateway/web/freenode/ip.177.148.165.34) |
| 02:41.33 | Guest68669 | vi not frontend |
| 02:41.35 | Resilience | and says structure ok... and it makes me wonder... was it a fat32? or an ext2? I cannot remember now... |
| 02:41.52 | abrotman | Guest68669: it sure is, it lets you edit the ruleset |
| 02:42.11 | jcbjoe | question is there a easier guide for http://www.algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html#tableSearchTermQuickGuide ? like a dumbed down version ? |
| 02:42.32 | *** join/#debian Stockholder (~stockhold@unaffiliated/stockholder) |
| 02:42.40 | abrotman | that is the easier guide |
| 02:42.49 | qman__ | Resilience, if it was an ext2, this will probably work: mount -t ext2 -o offset-32256 /dev/hdd /mnt/hdd1 |
| 02:43.00 | qman__ | sorry |
| 02:43.09 | qman__ | mount -t ext2 -o offset=32256 /dev/hdd /mnt/hdd1 |
| 02:43.12 | qman__ | = not - |
| 02:43.19 | jcbjoe | oh |
| 02:43.36 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-24-119.tor.primus.ca) |
| 02:44.04 | Resilience | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, |
| 02:44.23 | qman__ | probably not ext2 then |
| 02:44.37 | qman__ | try -t vfat, see if it goes |
| 02:45.16 | Resilience | same line that bofur qman__ ? |
| 02:45.24 | qman__ | yeah, just with vfat instead of ext2 |
| 02:45.54 | Resilience | qman__, o man, it works, it works |
| 02:46.35 | qman__ | I suggest at this point you copy all the files somewhere else, and then format this drive with a journaling filesystem |
| 02:46.48 | qman__ | they recover a lot easier |
| 02:47.02 | *** join/#debian Trae32566 (~Trae32566@unaffiliated/trae32566) |
| 02:47.31 | jcbjoe | abrotman: why are most search terms in brackets like ' ' "" or () is there a best option out of those 3 ? |
| 02:48.08 | BostonMA1776 | If I can't find the xorg.conf file in /ect/X11/xorg.conf should I make a new file? |
| 02:48.20 | jcbjoe | udo aptitude upgrade (~i~U) |
| 02:48.26 | jcbjoe | ^ is that even a command |
| 02:48.26 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 02:48.30 | jcbjoe | s/udo/sudo/ |
| 02:48.32 | abrotman | jcbjoe: yes it is |
| 02:48.35 | jcbjoe | oh |
| 02:48.39 | abrotman | BostonMA1776: do oyu need one? |
| 02:48.48 | *** join/#debian Se-bash (~seba@host71.190-136-247.telecom.net.ar) |
| 02:48.54 | *** join/#debian Se-bash (~seba@unaffiliated/se-bash) |
| 02:48.59 | jcbjoe | abrotman: its broken |
| 02:49.05 | abrotman | jcbjoe: what is? |
| 02:49.06 | jcbjoe | one of the brackets |
| 02:49.16 | abrotman | i usually use '' |
| 02:49.19 | jcbjoe | ok |
| 02:49.35 | jcbjoe | that worked lol |
| 02:49.48 | *** join/#debian punjab-pete (~pp@p5DC0EB64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:50.57 | BostonMA1776 | abrotman: I think I do, I am trying to set up a dual screen setup. I am following this guide www.crazysquirrel.com/computing/debian/applications/dual-monitors-nvidia-debian.jspx |
| 02:51.01 | Resilience | qman, ok, that's what I'll do, by the way, what is that switch of offset? why it works? and what can happened to the disk for losing the fat? It hasn't happened to me since I've been using computers since1994 |
| 02:51.20 | jcbjoe | abrotman: trying to figure out what to use fast so i can move to debian quicker .. i have the iso on my thumb drive and ready to install im on a live dvd right now .. im assuming ~i ~n ~d ~U are probably the only things i need correct unless backporting and what not correct ? |
| 02:51.57 | qman__ | Resilience, when you try to mount a filesystem, it assumes the filesystem starts at the first byte of the file you tell it to mount; your FAT partition doesn't start at byte 0 because hte disk was partitioned |
| 02:51.59 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@kuwinwpa-136-112.kuwin.ku.ac.th) |
| 02:52.15 | qman__ | 32256 bytes in is where the first partition typically starts on a disk with 512-byte sectors |
| 02:52.34 | qman__ | passing the offset flag tells mount to look that many bytes in for the filesystem |
| 02:52.40 | *** join/#debian james41382 (~james@24.205.204.88) |
| 02:53.15 | qman__ | so, regardless of your parition table, you just tell it to look at the disk itself, that many bytes in, where the filesystem is on-disk |
| 02:53.23 | Resilience | qman__, right, I understand, and.. what can has happened to make that to the disk? |
| 02:54.01 | *** join/#debian Quashie (~boingredd@out-on-148.wireless.telus.com) |
| 02:54.10 | qman__ | sorry, I don't understand the question |
| 02:54.19 | XORroid | is there a specific group in /etc/group that i must use if i want to access a mtp device ? |
| 02:55.18 | Resilience | qman__, the disk was all right, I did turn off the computer, and when turning it on and going to mount the file system, there was no more, I don't understand why... |
| 02:55.43 | qman__ | Resilience, it's a common problem with certain hardware, it just wiped sector 0 |
| 02:56.11 | qman__ | it's particularly common with FAT partitions and the hardware that was used when FAT was the norm |
| 02:56.39 | Resilience | qman__, the achne is a p4... not new but not old, and it has sata ports... |
| 02:57.30 | qman__ | it normally happens when the disk is shut off before the system is totally done with it and the cache is flushed |
| 02:57.58 | *** join/#debian Xiti (~Xiti-@c-71-63-111-156.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 02:58.19 | Resilience | qman__, ah, and.. what situations can led to that? |
| 02:58.41 | qman__ | shutting down, or in the case of USB, disconnecting and unplugging |
| 02:59.38 | *** join/#debian FreezingCold (~FreezingC@198-91-168-144.cpe.distributel.net) |
| 02:59.40 | Resilience | qman__, mmmm I mounted it manually, not with /etc/mtab, and then I did not umounted it manually, maybe that's the problem? |
| 03:00.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1389] by debhelper |
| 03:00.01 | qman__ | it might not have unmounted properly |
| 03:00.16 | qman__ | but this is usually a more hardware-related issue |
| 03:00.31 | qman__ | like your motherboard shut off the power before the disk was done spinning down and parking |
| 03:00.59 | XORroid | maybe if the written data was very low amount it could be lost in cache? |
| 03:01.15 | XORroid | (just a try) |
| 03:01.30 | *** join/#debian vladuke_ (~vladuke@178.130.42.7) |
| 03:01.32 | *** join/#debian jordanm_ (~jordan@c-69-137-114-149.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 03:01.52 | Resilience | qman__, oh, ok, neverthelless, I'm gping to unomun it, go to sleep (in order to make no errors) and tomorrow in the morning I will re-mount with the -o switch, will copy all data to a fresh new disk, and then re-format the disk, right |
| 03:02.07 | qman__ | it's a thing that happens, and it's mostly harmless as long as you don't panic and use the right tools |
| 03:02.47 | Resilience | qman__, I haven't panicked, I wrote nothing to the disk ;D |
| 03:03.07 | Resilience | /dev/loop0 38G 26G 12G 68% /mnt/hdd1 |
| 03:03.49 | Resilience | mmmm 226 G out of 38(49)G, that not seems a loosed cache |
| 03:05.34 | Resilience | qman__, XORroid you have been both very polite and very supportive, I'm very grateful to you, thank you very much for your help and your knowledge |
| 03:07.19 | jcbjoe | are tags still pouplar in debian ? |
| 03:07.32 | jcbjoe | searching via tags ? or is the description better ? |
| 03:08.21 | themill | jcbjoe: use axi-cache search and search both |
| 03:08.51 | jcbjoe | themill: i been using axi-cache i love it .. but it dosen't help me with tags .. i don't know what tag to start with .. like axi-cache search --tags games ? |
| 03:08.56 | jcbjoe | it errors out themill |
| 03:09.39 | themill | jcbjoe: axi-cache search game<tab><tab> |
| 03:09.45 | jcbjoe | oh |
| 03:10.18 | jcbjoe | thanks |
| 03:10.34 | themill | (possibly wants debtags installed too) |
| 03:11.10 | jcbjoe | oh do i install those ? |
| 03:11.37 | themill | it's a package |
| 03:11.54 | Resilience | /dev/loop0 38G 26G 12G 68% /mnt/hdd1 |
| 03:12.00 | Resilience | hola? |
| 03:12.08 | Resilience | qman__, XORroid you have been both very polite and very supportive, I'm very grateful to you, thank you very much for your help and your knowledge |
| 03:13.54 | *** join/#debian jordanm (~jordan@pdpc/supporter/active/jordanm) |
| 03:14.42 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~emonge@201.195.126.136) |
| 03:16.26 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 03:18.10 | *** join/#debian spinneret (~spinneret@gateway/tor-sasl/spinneret) |
| 03:19.17 | *** join/#debian JezzuH (62641ca4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.100.28.164) |
| 03:19.27 | JezzuH | hey guise :D |
| 03:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1383] by debhelper |
| 03:21.32 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 03:22.35 | *** join/#debian edgar-rft (~GOD@HSI-KBW-109-193-013-113.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 03:22.55 | *** join/#debian Siegel (~siegel@187-6-158-143.ctame700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 03:23.32 | *** join/#debian ndngvr (~ndngvr@bcaec5e83086.click-network.com) |
| 03:25.17 | *** join/#debian xxpor (~xxpor@c-71-197-148-100.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 03:27.35 | BostonMA1776 | Could someone with experience with dual monitors direct me toward a tutorial, or some resources on how to set it up in Debian wheezy? |
| 03:28.13 | jcbjoe | wow this debtags is nice |
| 03:29.02 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 03:29.41 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@cpe-74-78-54-137.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 03:31.10 | *** part/#debian JezzuH (62641ca4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.100.28.164) |
| 03:31.26 | *** join/#debian swivel (~swivel@shells.gnugeneration.com) |
| 03:31.50 | *** join/#debian dorito_125 (~dorito_12@108-71-149-228.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:32.34 | swivel | what's up with debian jessie/sid? I setup a vm today using qemu-make-debian-root, and udev doesn't even start successfully, its initscript has a blatant error preventing the tmpfs /dev mount from succeeding |
| 03:33.11 | swivel | and after fixing that manually udev still isn't populating /dev with all the necessary tty nodes for a usable system |
| 03:33.39 | swivel | anyone familiar with this problem? |
| 03:33.43 | *** join/#debian qwert2000 (~qwert2000@180.126.235.155) |
| 03:34.11 | BostonMA1776 | Anyone have any recommendations for IRC clients? I am using pidgin right now. I used Xchat previously. I am thinking of switching back unless you guys can recommend something better. My main problem with Pidgin is that there is no alert when people type my username. |
| 03:34.16 | jordanm | !sid |
| 03:34.16 | dpkg | [sid] the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 03:34.34 | *** join/#debian \\Mr_C\\ (mrc@68-186-204-95.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) |
| 03:34.37 | jordanm | BostonMA1776: I recently discovered konversation, which i find quite good |
| 03:35.09 | jordanm | I am not sure if the notification system depends on running KDE, but I do |
| 03:35.27 | BostonMA1776 | Jordanm: Thank you. You get notifications with pidgin? |
| 03:37.17 | jordanm | BostonMA1776: I haven't used pidgin for IRC in linux in years |
| 03:37.18 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 03:37.36 | *** part/#debian BostonMA1776 (~lh@66.196.14.104) |
| 03:37.41 | jordanm | I don't remember notifications, but it atleast flashed on the task bar |
| 03:38.12 | *** join/#debian k-t_ (~kt@p5DE85382.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:38.26 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~emonge@201.195.126.136) |
| 03:38.45 | *** join/#debian sh00tm3 (~s@2a02:120b:2c63:51d0:e93d:cf7c:17ea:62b4) |
| 03:39.42 | *** part/#debian swivel (~swivel@shells.gnugeneration.com) |
| 03:41.52 | XORroid | is there a debian livecd/usb for armv7 (tablet) ? |
| 03:42.35 | m_billybob | XORroid do you have specific hardware in mind ? |
| 03:42.47 | m_billybob | rpi beaglebone ? |
| 03:43.10 | m_billybob | oh my bad ( tablet ) |
| 03:44.08 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.226.49) |
| 03:45.43 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 03:45.44 | *** join/#debian BostonMA1776 (~lh@66.196.14.104) |
| 03:45.55 | *** join/#debian MrMonkey31 (~kal@ool-18be74f7.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:46.38 | BostonMA1776 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:46.54 | jordanm | BostonMA1776: |
| 03:48.12 | BostonMA1776 | jordanm thanks. |
| 03:49.03 | *** join/#debian dorito_125 (~dorito_12@108-71-149-228.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:49.04 | *** join/#debian tjbenator (~tjbenator@c-67-160-48-249.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 03:49.32 | *** join/#debian carif (~mcarifio@cpe-74-78-54-137.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 03:49.40 | *** join/#debian toobluesc (~nitro@c-50-136-226-78.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:49.41 | *** join/#debian james41382_ (~james@24.205.204.125) |
| 03:49.52 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-69-205-60-228.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:50.09 | *** join/#debian rustyrazorblade (~rustyrazo@pool-71-118-174-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 03:50.12 | toobluesc | hey guys, I'm working on patching a package, and when I run dpatch-edit-patch I get an error "make: *** No rule to make target `unpatch'. Stop." |
| 03:50.30 | toobluesc | I'm following https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial -- what am I missing? |
| 03:50.55 | toobluesc | Did the maintainer never specify the unpatch target? Is there a secret debian tool I'm using wrong? |
| 03:51.40 | themill | toobluesc: which package? |
| 03:51.49 | jordanm | toobluesc: I haven't used that tool, but I am guessing it only works with source format 3.0 |
| 03:51.59 | toobluesc | apparmor-2.8.0 on Ubuntu |
| 03:52.18 | themill | toobluesc: I'd be surprised if it used dpatch, but you should ask #ubuntu |
| 03:52.44 | toobluesc | is dpatch ancient? |
| 03:52.55 | themill | yes |
| 03:53.20 | *** join/#debian reazem (~reazem@unaffiliated/reazem) |
| 03:56.07 | toobluesc | quilt seems to be working |
| 04:02.15 | *** join/#debian Steeler (~steeler@dynamic-adsl-94-34-59-8.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 04:02.27 | *** join/#debian carif_ (~mcarifio@cpe-74-78-54-137.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 04:05.07 | *** join/#debian BostonMA1776 (~lh@66.196.14.104) |
| 04:05.54 | XORroid | m_billybob: why not? |
| 04:06.53 | *** join/#debian Probeus (probeus@probeus.no) |
| 04:07.39 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@203.126.171.206) |
| 04:10.36 | *** join/#debian rustyrazorblade (~rustyrazo@pool-71-118-174-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 04:10.39 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 04:12.45 | *** join/#debian Chat9566 (~Chat9566@69.41.182.133) |
| 04:14.10 | *** join/#debian rustyrazorblade_ (~rustyrazo@pool-71-118-174-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 04:15.41 | *** part/#debian MrMonkey31 (~kal@ool-18be74f7.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:15.59 | *** join/#debian aadil (~aadil@197.224.13.128) |
| 04:15.59 | *** join/#debian aadil (~aadil@unaffiliated/aadil) |
| 04:17.22 | jcbjoe | so i been playing with debtags for about an hour now |
| 04:17.29 | jcbjoe | debtags find my tags / axi-cache narrows it down from the tag |
| 04:17.31 | jcbjoe | sound right ? |
| 04:19.14 | *** join/#debian dns42 (~dennis@zion.k23.in) |
| 04:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1367] by debhelper |
| 04:20.06 | *** join/#debian phuzion_ (~phuzion@ipv6.irc.teh-server.com) |
| 04:20.38 | *** part/#debian mystupid (~smoothmoo@c-67-160-11-88.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 04:21.11 | *** join/#debian AngelDeath (~angeldeat@201.210.1.210) |
| 04:21.33 | *** join/#debian cusco_ (~tralala@2001:41d0:1:6ccc:cafe:dead:0:beef) |
| 04:21.45 | *** join/#debian weuxel (~Weuxel@smash-net.org) |
| 04:21.57 | *** join/#debian EmleyMoor (phil@topdeck.tinsleyviaduct.com) |
| 04:21.57 | *** join/#debian vectr0n (~vectr0n@2605:f700:c0:822::946:5a71) |
| 04:21.58 | *** join/#debian vectr0n (~vectr0n@unaffiliated/vectr0n) |
| 04:21.58 | *** join/#debian ferni (~jarkkot@cl-854.hel-01.fi.sixxs.net) |
| 04:21.59 | *** join/#debian bezaban_ (~yeenoghu@yeenoghu.com) |
| 04:22.01 | *** join/#debian bzed (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) |
| 04:22.20 | *** join/#debian nighter_ (nighter@nighter.se) |
| 04:22.34 | *** join/#debian lt_dan (lt_dan@2600:3c02::f03c:91ff:feae:91f1) |
| 04:22.36 | *** join/#debian jareth_ (~jareth_@2001:980:e1c0:1:219:66ff:fea0:a502) |
| 04:22.46 | *** join/#debian cbdev (~fnord@hieristdas.internetzuen.de) |
| 04:22.50 | *** join/#debian iViLe (~bob@anon-54-144.vpn.ipredator.se) |
| 04:23.07 | *** join/#debian Trae32566 (~Trae32566@unaffiliated/trae32566) |
| 04:23.09 | *** join/#debian damentz (~damentz@cpe-66-68-124-183.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 04:23.10 | *** join/#debian Unity (~Mitsuki@2a00:dcc0:eda:88:245:71:2d9e:f3a) |
| 04:23.10 | *** join/#debian Unity (~Mitsuki@unaffiliated/unity) |
| 04:23.24 | *** join/#debian Martin89 (~martin89@2001:41d0:1:b6bb::3) |
| 04:23.31 | *** join/#debian Cerise (jerry@unaffiliated/cerise) |
| 04:24.08 | *** join/#debian |DM| (~Wewt|Mang@unaffiliated/cocomango) |
| 04:24.23 | *** join/#debian Python1320 (~Python132@unaffiliated/python1320) |
| 04:26.01 | *** join/#debian wathek_ (~wathek@183.83.138.58) |
| 04:27.37 | *** join/#debian gmarselis (~kot@109.171.130.235) |
| 04:27.49 | *** join/#debian vladuke_ (~vladuke@178.130.42.7) |
| 04:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1376] by debhelper |
| 04:30.40 | *** join/#debian MekkaGodzilla (~MekkaGodz@cxr69-3-82-224-150-128.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 04:30.46 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (ShapeShift@bounce.around.the.world.panicbnc.net) |
| 04:32.54 | Sakara | on the topic of pidgin, I used it in my office to connect to a Lync server. |
| 04:33.10 | Sakara | I often have a need to share my screen/view others. |
| 04:33.25 | Sakara | the native Lync client can do this. is there anyway to do this from a debian system? |
| 04:34.25 | *** join/#debian vrkalak (~vrkalak@68-241-190-236.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 04:36.42 | *** join/#debian Probeus (probeus@probeus.no) |
| 04:36.54 | *** join/#debian safejav (~safejav@200.127.117.240) |
| 04:37.57 | *** join/#debian DrakkenWarr (~meh@cpe-66-69-108-158.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 04:39.03 | *** join/#debian aarcane (~aarcane@99-42-64-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:40.20 | *** join/#debian tallest_red (~CNZ@ip98-169-203-78.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 04:43.53 | *** join/#debian BostonMA1776 (~lh@66.196.14.104) |
| 04:43.54 | *** join/#debian jazka (jaska@b0xi.eu) |
| 04:45.32 | *** join/#debian james41382_ (~james@24.205.204.125) |
| 04:46.14 | *** join/#debian chimay (~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay) |
| 04:50.02 | *** join/#debian austeregrim_at (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 04:51.54 | *** join/#debian Sleepy63 (~Sleepy63@pool-71-123-177-129.dllstx.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 04:52.32 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 04:52.38 | *** join/#debian xrosnight (~quassel@116.76.166.121) |
| 04:53.58 | *** join/#debian xrosnight (~quassel@116.76.166.121) |
| 04:54.27 | jcbjoe | i think im ready to go to debian my search in aptitude are decent |
| 04:54.29 | jcbjoe | lol |
| 04:55.02 | jcbjoe | what is the recommended debian for a new user ? |
| 04:55.13 | MekkaGodzilla | go with stable |
| 04:55.20 | MekkaGodzilla | and the DE you like most |
| 04:55.21 | jcbjoe | i know if i go to a stable version and if a package is new i have to backport it correct ? |
| 04:55.30 | jcbjoe | MekkaGodzilla: DE ? |
| 04:55.38 | MekkaGodzilla | KDE, GNOME, XFCE, LXDE |
| 04:55.44 | MekkaGodzilla | Desktop Environment |
| 04:55.46 | jcbjoe | im likeing this lxde |
| 04:55.57 | MekkaGodzilla | interfaces to launch apps and manage them |
| 04:56.02 | jcbjoe | wheezy is stable ? |
| 04:56.06 | jcbjoe | i like i3 also |
| 04:56.11 | james41382 | If you want something and it's not available you can always just download it and build it from the source. |
| 04:56.11 | MekkaGodzilla | wheezy is currently stable |
| 04:56.15 | jcbjoe | i will install both and just switch when i want to |
| 04:56.35 | MekkaGodzilla | you can download a xfce+lxde iso I believe |
| 04:56.39 | james41382 | Some things you can get from debian backports, but not everything. |
| 04:56.49 | MekkaGodzilla | switch between the 2 in the menu before launching the install process |
| 04:57.18 | james41382 | It's not recommended to install packages from unstable or experimental in wheezy.. it can break things. |
| 04:57.40 | *** join/#debian drachensun (~drachensu@72.238.115.181) |
| 04:57.49 | jcbjoe | ok james41382 its fine .. james41382 i think only 1 package i have to its weechat |
| 04:57.56 | jcbjoe | i used to be on sid or something a while back |
| 04:57.58 | jcbjoe | i forgot |
| 04:58.01 | jcbjoe | anyways |
| 04:58.02 | MekkaGodzilla | weechat is in stable |
| 04:58.04 | jcbjoe | debian-live-7.0.0-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso.torrent |
| 04:58.11 | jcbjoe | is that good ^ |
| 04:58.21 | MekkaGodzilla | oh that's lxde only |
| 04:58.23 | MekkaGodzilla | that's fine |
| 04:58.32 | *** join/#debian r00tN (~r00t@185.2.12.155) |
| 04:58.33 | jcbjoe | yes but i can always install another wm MekkaGodzilla |
| 04:58.38 | MekkaGodzilla | of course |
| 04:58.42 | *** join/#debian aschro_ (~aschro@dslb-088-069-180-198.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 04:58.42 | MekkaGodzilla | apt-get install is your friend |
| 04:58.59 | jcbjoe | and aptitude install |
| 04:59.00 | *** join/#debian mauryaarun (~Thunderbi@14.139.225.66) |
| 04:59.05 | MekkaGodzilla | i guess all you have to do is switch session in the login screen |
| 04:59.06 | james41382 | Just wanted throw that in there.. =] |
| 05:00.11 | *** join/#debian bl4ckdu5t (~bl4ckdu5t@196.46.246.50) |
| 05:00.45 | jcbjoe | ok late guys o bad you can't tmux -d when you reboot |
| 05:00.52 | jcbjoe | i know you can do from ssh but whatever |
| 05:00.52 | james41382 | I'm a student and I like to play with various security software suites/programs... I have found myself building a good deal of them from source because either they're not available in stable or because the version in stable is a couple years old. |
| 05:00.54 | jcbjoe | late |
| 05:01.29 | MekkaGodzilla | in that use case, I would go with archlinux |
| 05:01.58 | MekkaGodzilla | more maintenance work on your side than debian, but you always have the latest libs |
| 05:02.15 | drachensun | hello all |
| 05:02.19 | MekkaGodzilla | oh hai |
| 05:02.22 | drachensun | I've been trying to bring up a Debian system on an Allwinner A31 tablet and I keep running into the same problem, looks like /dev is not being setup right |
| 05:02.28 | drachensun | "mount: /dev not mounted or bad option" |
| 05:02.30 | *** join/#debian Arroyo1010 (~squid-fre@unaffiliated/arroyo1010) |
| 05:02.33 | drachensun | All the rootfs I have tried work on A10 allwinner chips but I think most were called from U-boot with boot instead of boota and a initrd which is what I am using now. |
| 05:02.37 | drachensun | I assume it is some setup problem with the initrd but I don't know enough about how /dev is mounted or what is different in how Debian does it vs say ubuntu (which I have working) |
| 05:03.12 | maxyz | james41382: You are always welcome to maintain the programs you care about. |
| 05:05.49 | *** join/#debian DOUGHTY (admin@doughty.pw) |
| 05:05.58 | *** join/#debian WebSearchingPro (~WebSearch@172.245.217.121) |
| 05:06.15 | james41382 | maxyz: If only I had that sort of experience it might be something I would be interested in. It has crossed my mind, but only has a thought in the distant future.. as I said I am only a student and have much to learn. =] |
| 05:06.36 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@119.42.75.245) |
| 05:06.57 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@203.126.171.206) |
| 05:11.04 | *** join/#debian mynis (mynis@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-kerfkywoceesuikz) |
| 05:11.19 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 05:11.26 | *** join/#debian AlexLikeRock (~AlexLikeR@unaffiliated/alexlikerock) |
| 05:11.35 | AlexLikeRock | hi guys o/ |
| 05:12.13 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~yaaic@201.191.199.3) |
| 05:12.17 | maxyz | james41382: That's how most of the debian developers have started, so if you care about some programs you might start by sending a bug to wnpp titled RFP (request for packaging). |
| 05:13.09 | AlexLikeRock | ¿how to do: "click right through a window " on KDE ? |
| 05:13.32 | *** join/#debian SLot (~SLot@177.19.245.194) |
| 05:13.40 | *** join/#debian ariel (core@mantis.aanetworks.org) |
| 05:13.47 | maxyz | AlexLikeRock: What do you mean? |
| 05:14.18 | maxyz | You want to click on something that is below a window? |
| 05:14.21 | james41382 | maxyz: Okay I will keep that in mind.. thanks! |
| 05:14.28 | *** join/#debian bl4ckdu5t (~bl4ckdu5t@unaffiliated/bl4ckdu5t) |
| 05:14.33 | *** join/#debian sevenfourk (~sevenfour@unaffiliated/sevenfourk) |
| 05:14.35 | AlexLikeRock | yes maxexcloo |
| 05:15.36 | AlexLikeRock | the fisrt window are 50% opaque |
| 05:16.16 | AlexLikeRock | in example ; music vizualization (audacious) |
| 05:16.47 | maxyz | As far as I know, there is no way to do that. |
| 05:16.48 | AlexLikeRock | and working with second window ie: icedove :) |
| 05:17.15 | AlexLikeRock | well on M$ some ones programs can do that :-S |
| 05:18.18 | *** join/#debian james41382_ (~james@24.205.204.88) |
| 05:18.19 | maxyz | AlexLikeRock: Feel free to propose the feature in bugs.kde.org |
| 05:18.38 | AlexLikeRock | hooo no, :-S |
| 05:19.14 | AlexLikeRock | my last time i make a bueg, and they only say "this aren't a bug .... bla, bla, bla " |
| 05:19.30 | AlexLikeRock | lazy guys |
| 05:20.12 | *** join/#debian moza (~moza@h79-138-102-26.dynamic.se.alltele.net) |
| 05:20.21 | maxyz | Not exactly lazy, but they need to feel really motivated towards something. |
| 05:21.21 | maxyz | Most free software developers spend their free time to develop something. So it better be something of value for them. |
| 05:22.36 | maxyz | So, it makes quite a difference the way you present your ideas. |
| 05:22.46 | AlexLikeRock | mmm, KDE is the more beautiful desktop we all know, i don now what more need? |
| 05:22.48 | *** join/#debian bocaneri (~bocaneri@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 05:22.57 | *** join/#debian vladuke_ (~vladuke@EdNet-1.vmb-service.ru) |
| 05:23.27 | AlexLikeRock | but , they have a lot bug's :-P |
| 05:24.03 | AlexLikeRock | :-/ i tink about :-) |
| 05:24.06 | *** join/#debian bullgard4 (~chatzilla@dslb-188-102-042-049.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:24.27 | maxyz | Indeed, every non trivial piece of software does. |
| 05:26.02 | *** join/#debian Alina-malina (~Alina-mal@46.162.218.200) |
| 05:26.46 | *** join/#debian adyromantika (~adyromant@198.23.128.123) |
| 05:27.41 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 05:28.49 | bullgard4 | I have bought a computer, shrinked Windows and installed Debian using a "7.0 wheezy multi-arch install DVD". '~$ sudo apt-get clean' and '~$ sudo su' obtain: "<my_user_name> is not in the sudoers file." How to become root? |
| 05:28.59 | *** join/#debian juser (~juser@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 05:29.04 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~yaaic@201.191.199.3) |
| 05:29.09 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@203.126.171.206) |
| 05:29.56 | somiaj | bullgard4: you know the password you set for root when you installed? to use sudo you need to add that user to the sudo group |
| 05:29.58 | maxyz | drachensun: Is the Allwinner A31 officialy supported? |
| 05:30.33 | AlexLikeRock | bullgard4, do it password to root ;-) |
| 05:30.34 | *** join/#debian _Paul (~Paul@p5DE8B5B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 05:31.08 | mynis | bullgard: until you get sudo set up, you can just use "su" to switch to root or "su -c" to run a single command as root |
| 05:31.08 | AlexLikeRock | sudo passwd root |
| 05:32.39 | maxyz | In the installation, if you hadn't supplied a password for root then sude would have been configured for the user account you set up. |
| 05:33.04 | maxyz | s/sude/sudo/ |
| 05:33.05 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 05:34.52 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~yaaic@201.191.199.3) |
| 05:35.22 | *** join/#debian tallest_red (~CNZ@ip98-169-203-78.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 05:36.15 | drachensun | maxyz: Not that I know of, I think I am the first to try this |
| 05:36.48 | drachensun | maxyz: I am pretty close to having it working though, it boots up |
| 05:37.24 | drachensun | maxyz: but its pretty useless at the moment without /dev/ttyS0 or /dev/disp |
| 05:37.36 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@81-230-126-193-no160.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 05:38.08 | *** join/#debian hrip (5fd3bc34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.211.188.52) |
| 05:39.48 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 05:39.57 | maxyz | drachensun: Interesting, is the device distributed with uboot or you had to overwrite the bootloader? |
| 05:40.18 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 05:40.30 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~yaaic@201.191.199.3) |
| 05:40.39 | *** join/#debian freedomrun (~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun) |
| 05:40.40 | *** join/#debian dash_ (~d45h@unaffiliated/dash-/x-7576607) |
| 05:40.50 | drachensun | it comes with Android |
| 05:40.55 | *** join/#debian ferni (~jarkkot@cl-854.hel-01.fi.sixxs.net) |
| 05:40.58 | drachensun | but I've got all the source for it |
| 05:41.04 | drachensun | so I'm building u-boot as well |
| 05:41.39 | drachensun | maxyz: This is it http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pengpod-1040-quad-core-linux-android-dual-booting-tablets/x/1642121 |
| 05:42.08 | drachensun | maxyz: Allwinner is semi open source friendly, almost all source is in their SDK |
| 05:42.33 | hrip | hello. i'm using debian wheezy (7.1), and kde 4.8.4. this is a fresh install of debian. when i go into system settings to change my resolution, there's only one option: 1920x1080. i've looked this up a bit, and found running xrandr --addmode "640x480_60.00" 23.75 640 664 720 800 480 483 487 500 -hsync +vsync then xrandr --newmode "640x480_60.00" should add a new resolution setting, but they just print the help. how can i add mo |
| 05:44.02 | maxyz | drachensun: Are you working on pengpod? |
| 05:44.24 | AlexLikeRock | hrip, what say : "xrandr" ? |
| 05:44.36 | AlexLikeRock | they appear your new configuration ? |
| 05:44.55 | drachensun | maxyz: yes |
| 05:45.20 | hrip | AlexLikeRock: what? |
| 05:45.41 | maxyz | drachensun: Ok, you might want to join #debian-mobile on oftc |
| 05:45.45 | drachensun | maxyz: I thought I would take today to try and bring up some 'easy' ubuntu like systems since linaro/ubuntu is our main one, I got totally mired in this problem |
| 05:46.10 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~yaaic@201.191.199.3) |
| 05:46.37 | AlexLikeRock | hrip, https://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
| 05:47.58 | drachensun | maxyz: ok |
| 05:48.19 | AlexLikeRock | hrip, If the mode does not exist, you may first create it by passing a modeline: |
| 05:48.20 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:49.04 | AlexLikeRock | se me antojan unos tacos :-) |
| 05:49.12 | maxyz | drachensun: The /dev needs some static files and then udev is mounted on top of it, but I'm not sure how it's done in arm |
| 05:49.14 | bullgard4 | mynis, somiaj: This works. -- Thank you very much for your help. |
| 05:49.22 | mynis | np |
| 05:50.10 | *** join/#debian gr33n7007h (~gr33n7007@unaffiliated/gr33n7007h) |
| 05:50.53 | gr33n7007h | How can I format my usb drive using dd to wipe out the partitions? |
| 05:52.09 | AlexLikeRock | gr33n7007h, dd delete everyting :-) and do a new one :) |
| 05:52.23 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~yaaic@201.191.199.3) |
| 05:52.26 | AlexLikeRock | clone |
| 05:52.32 | AlexLikeRock | ¿remember ? |
| 05:52.34 | gr33n7007h | AlexLikeRock, What command do i use |
| 05:52.49 | somiaj | gr33n7007h: what do you mean by format? Do you want to put a fresh file system on the drive? |
| 05:52.50 | *** join/#debian rustyrazorblade (~rustyrazo@pool-71-118-174-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 05:53.05 | gr33n7007h | somiaj, |
| 05:53.08 | gr33n7007h | somiaj, yes |
| 05:53.15 | somiaj | gr33n7007h: or do you want to write 0's everywhere to remove any data hiding on it? |
| 05:53.30 | gr33n7007h | somiaj, yes sir |
| 05:53.39 | maxyz | gr33n7007h: Just start a new partition table with fdisk |
| 05:53.40 | gr33n7007h | write 0's that is |
| 05:53.44 | somiaj | gr33n7007h: look at mkfs (make filesytem) or mkdosfs if you want fat32 on it |
| 05:54.00 | gr33n7007h | but its says unallocated and won't let meformat |
| 05:54.02 | *** join/#debian xrosnight (~quassel@116.76.166.121) |
| 05:54.12 | maxyz | gr33n7007h: You can so dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=1024 count=1024 |
| 05:54.25 | somiaj | well you can dd (or cat) /dev/zero to zero out the drive, use a partition tool to put a new partition on it, then mkfs to write a filesystem to the partition |
| 05:54.26 | maxyz | To erase the first MB of /dev/sdX |
| 05:54.37 | rryoumaa | is it possible to make wmweather+ 5 times larger? |
| 05:55.04 | maxyz | window maker applets are 64x64 |
| 05:55.07 | gr33n7007h | ok will have a go somiaj maxyz |
| 05:55.26 | rryoumaa | maxyz: so no then? |
| 05:55.33 | *** join/#debian Konomi (~Konomi@unaffiliated/konomi) |
| 05:55.37 | rryoumaa | (i use fluxbox for now) |
| 05:55.57 | somiaj | I didn't think the wm applets were scalable. |
| 05:56.08 | *** join/#debian czh (~communi@117.136.30.90) |
| 05:56.11 | rryoumaa | ok, thanks |
| 05:56.22 | somiaj | I could be mistaken |
| 05:56.33 | rryoumaa | is it a known bug that redshift does not actually shift and is either in blue mode or amber mode, requiring pkill -usr1 redshift to toggle? |
| 05:56.44 | *** join/#debian tralala (~user@unaffiliated/tralala) |
| 05:59.50 | *** part/#debian hrip (5fd3bc34@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.211.188.52) |
| 05:59.53 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~daniel@HSI-KBW-091-089-154-223.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 06:00.07 | maxyz | rryoumaa: Last time I used window maker was 10 years ago, so things might have changed, but asaik, no. |
| 06:00.39 | *** join/#debian mauryaarun (~Thunderbi@14.139.225.66) |
| 06:01.11 | *** join/#debian ivek (~Icedove@91.212.44.254) |
| 06:01.54 | *** join/#debian aswen (~aswen@84.245.53.51) |
| 06:02.00 | *** join/#debian asakura0 (~asakura@gateway/tor-sasl/asakura) |
| 06:02.34 | rryoumaa | ok :) |
| 06:03.26 | rryoumaa | i kinda like the plaintext weather(1), but wanted something large in the fluxbox dock or gkrellm that does forecasts if it made sense. seems like there is nothing like that. |
| 06:04.19 | *** join/#debian Konomi (~Konomi@unaffiliated/konomi) |
| 06:04.25 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1734.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 06:04.48 | *** join/#debian moumoul (~jerem@ANantes-557-1-135-141.w2-1.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:04.51 | *** join/#debian samuel (~samuel@187.189.0.248) |
| 06:06.38 | *** join/#debian giuscri (~giuscri@5.168.17.223) |
| 06:06.52 | somiaj | have you looked at conky, people seem to like it |
| 06:07.25 | maxyz | I was trying to remember the name of it. |
| 06:07.33 | maxyz | rryoumaa: Go for conky |
| 06:07.44 | *** join/#debian qwert2000 (~qwert2000@180.126.235.155) |
| 06:08.31 | *** join/#debian Messenger_bird (~banana@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) |
| 06:08.48 | giuscri | Hi! Yesterday I've found that I had to comment some line in `/etc/network/interfaces` for making the LAN working. It has turned out that those line did not work with Network Manager. I'd like to understand why. Anyone that could help me? |
| 06:09.18 | Coburn | giuscri: do you remember what the line said? |
| 06:09.18 | rryoumaa | maxyz: maybe i will try that again, it seems popular. but its fonts were small too and it seemed far more effortful to configure than gkrellm. |
| 06:09.35 | Coburn | like 'auto eth0' |
| 06:10.21 | somiaj | giuscri: network manager ignores interfaces configured in the interfaces file (as to not conflict with it) |
| 06:10.42 | somiaj | giuscri: so you need to choose to manage your interfaces with either tool. Usually best to stick with one so they don't fight over the interface. |
| 06:11.22 | giuscri | Coburn: I had to comment the following two lines: 1. `allow-hotplug eth0` and 2. `iface eth0 inet dhcp` |
| 06:11.24 | *** join/#debian Knaldgas (~pdj@dce.dongenergy.dk) |
| 06:11.58 | Coburn | giuscri: yeah, that's normal because networkmanager doesn't manage anything that is described in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 06:12.21 | Coburn | by commenting them out, you let NM take control, rather than the kernel |
| 06:12.39 | *** join/#debian cybrNaut (cybrNaut@2001:0:53aa:64c:186f:17dd:bcca:66c4) |
| 06:12.40 | somiaj | but it left the lines there for if you wanted to undo it (as opposed to just deleteing thme) |
| 06:12.41 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@c-68-35-49-173.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 06:12.47 | giuscri | somiaj: Mhn. Ok. What if I'd like to use *only* the interfaces file. Where could I find some documentation? |
| 06:13.26 | somiaj | giuscri: man interfaces and there are lots of examples on the wiki |
| 06:13.27 | *** join/#debian nicomi (~nicomi@5pr88-1-78-233-60-73.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 06:13.35 | somiaj | and in that case you should uninstall (or at least) disable network manager |
| 06:13.43 | giuscri | somiaj: Thanks =) |
| 06:14.17 | Coburn | giuscri: http://en.digipedia.org/man/doc/view/interfaces.5/ |
| 06:14.23 | *** join/#debian gnude (~senft@business-213-023-035-050.static.arcor-ip.net) |
| 06:15.31 | *** join/#debian neantpastel (~neantpast@dsl-10-134-11.b2b2c.ca) |
| 06:15.33 | giuscri | Coburn, somiaj : I'm thinking: could be that considered kinda a bug? I mean: isn't network-manager a built-in tool?... Shouldn't Debian be distributed already with those line commented? |
| 06:15.46 | maxyz | rryoumaa: The fonts are configurable, you might want to check the configuration used in a default crunchbag |
| 06:16.37 | somiaj | giuscri: network-manager is an additional service to manage network devices. The interfaces file is just a script to use the low level cli tools (ifconfig) |
| 06:17.02 | somiaj | well its a file to use with the ifup/ifdown scripts. But either way it is only desktops that have nm installed by default |
| 06:17.31 | *** join/#debian _nova (~nova@catv-80-99-240-71.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 06:18.02 | *** join/#debian tolkor (~rj@tdream.lly.earlham.edu) |
| 06:18.21 | *** join/#debian Guest95539 (~3163423@e180103158.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 06:18.27 | somiaj | hmm, looks like the scripts are using ip these days as per the man page |
| 06:19.13 | *** part/#debian AlexLikeRock (~AlexLikeR@unaffiliated/alexlikerock) |
| 06:21.29 | *** join/#debian jrgill (~jrgill@unaffiliated/jrgill) |
| 06:22.13 | giuscri | somiaj: I have not grasped your position. Shouldn't be Debian working out-of-the-box --for beginners, too-- ? |
| 06:22.18 | *** join/#debian olti (~olti@81.26.202.6) |
| 06:22.58 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@203.126.171.206) |
| 06:23.31 | somiaj | the interfaces file along with the scripts and low level tools are part of the base system and set up by the installer so it works |
| 06:23.34 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 06:23.42 | *** join/#debian nutron (~nutron@unaffiliated/nutron) |
| 06:23.47 | somiaj | network manager is an optional tool you can use to manage things |
| 06:24.15 | *** join/#debian jcbjoe (~jcbjoe@c-50-173-42-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 06:24.21 | jcbjoe | hey all officially on debian sort of |
| 06:24.30 | *** join/#debian optimusprimem (~globo_com@unaffiliated/optimusprimem) |
| 06:24.38 | jcbjoe | I'm trying to launch wee chat and it keeps trying to connect via ipv6 also i get a error when i exit or launc it |
| 06:24.39 | jcbjoe | one sec |
| 06:25.08 | *** join/#debian AlexLikeRock (~AlexLikeR@unaffiliated/alexlikerock) |
| 06:25.13 | jcbjoe | WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to /home/jcbjoe.cache/keyring-kDg0s4/pkcs11: no such file or directory |
| 06:25.16 | jcbjoe | any deas ? |
| 06:25.29 | AlexLikeRock | maxyz, look , i foud :) |
| 06:25.32 | AlexLikeRock | https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/1158267 |
| 06:25.51 | *** join/#debian rustyrazorblade (~rustyrazo@pool-71-118-174-148.lsanca.fios.verizon.net) |
| 06:26.25 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@78.186.132.203) |
| 06:26.35 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 06:26.43 | *** part/#debian AlexLikeRock (~AlexLikeR@unaffiliated/alexlikerock) |
| 06:26.48 | *** join/#debian yooduknam (~yoo200181@121.129.13.105) |
| 06:27.36 | *** join/#debian toki_ (~toki@ppp-174-76.98-62.inwind.it) |
| 06:27.39 | toki_ | s |
| 06:28.36 | giuscri | somiaj: Ok, I used to think that was kind of a bug it had to be reported --to the Debian community. |
| 06:29.05 | giuscri | somiaj: But I understand what you're saying. |
| 06:29.18 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 06:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1383] by debhelper |
| 06:30.32 | *** join/#debian TrIXx (~Thunderbi@87.128.226.58) |
| 06:31.09 | *** part/#debian giuscri (~giuscri@5.168.17.223) |
| 06:31.42 | *** part/#debian TrIXx (~Thunderbi@87.128.226.58) |
| 06:32.21 | *** join/#debian soul (~quassel@82.198.113.42) |
| 06:32.42 | jcbjoe | whys up with this gnome-keyring thing ? |
| 06:33.06 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host52-231-static.242-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 06:33.08 | *** join/#debian wissem (~wissem@unaffiliated/wissem) |
| 06:35.42 | *** join/#debian ws2k3 (~ton@95.211.221.134) |
| 06:39.19 | *** join/#debian aswen (~aswen@84.245.53.51) |
| 06:41.46 | *** join/#debian Boltersdriveer (~Bolts@103.247.135.24) |
| 06:42.10 | *** join/#debian kj4 (~sparzok@cpe-075-181-092-128.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 06:42.43 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghost@92.109.90.61) |
| 06:43.19 | *** join/#debian dwiz11 (~dan@60-242-244-18.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 06:45.00 | *** join/#debian HisaoNakai (~HisaoNaka@unaffiliated/contrapunctus) |
| 06:46.02 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@81.144.163.60) |
| 06:50.55 | *** join/#debian wsk233 (~ton@95.211.221.134) |
| 06:51.12 | *** join/#debian optimusprimem (~globo_com@unaffiliated/optimusprimem) |
| 06:51.55 | *** join/#debian vladi (~Vladimir@93.123.41.167) |
| 06:52.03 | *** join/#debian codygman (~cody@dsl081-114-015.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 06:52.34 | *** join/#debian VI (c3d6e603@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.214.230.3) |
| 06:52.50 | maxyz | jcbjoe: Are you using gnome? do you have gnome-keyring or libpam-gnome-keyring installed? |
| 06:53.15 | jcbjoe | maxyz, I'm on wheezy and I'm usin lxde |
| 06:53.23 | jcbjoe | i noticed gnome-keyring has a i and A next to it |
| 06:53.25 | *** join/#debian codygman (~cody@dsl081-114-015.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 06:53.27 | jcbjoe | why would that happen ? |
| 06:54.24 | maxyz | The file path looks wrong, shouldn't it be /home/jcbjoe/.cache/keyring-kDg0s4/pkcs11 ? |
| 06:55.24 | *** join/#debian jjanvier (~jjanvier@freebox.galilee.fr) |
| 06:55.33 | jcbjoe | don't know |
| 06:55.36 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 06:56.11 | jcbjoe | its all over the internet |
| 06:56.17 | *** join/#debian xrosnight (~quassel@116.76.166.121) |
| 06:58.19 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~kain88@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de) |
| 06:58.58 | jcbjoe | maxyz, the internet keeps refurng to ssh or something |
| 06:59.04 | jcbjoe | i ran tasked and I'm taking off ssh-server |
| 06:59.18 | *** join/#debian SabsJeis (~testsadf@ip68-5-143-171.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 06:59.31 | maxyz | jcbjoe: If you have no ipv6 connectivity, you might want to disable it, check https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6 (or fix your network setup so it doesn't lie to your computer about a non available ipv6 connection). |
| 07:00.22 | jcbjoe | maxyz, i died that issue .. its the gnome-keyring thing now |
| 07:00.25 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~kain88@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de) |
| 07:00.34 | maxyz | Whats tasked? |
| 07:00.47 | jcbjoe | taskel ? |
| 07:00.58 | maxyz | tasksel |
| 07:01.06 | jcbjoe | yes that |
| 07:01.08 | jcbjoe | :D |
| 07:01.33 | jcbjoe | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=649408 |
| 07:02.32 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@203.126.171.206) |
| 07:03.03 | *** join/#debian n8w (~In8wI@130.226.133.118) |
| 07:04.09 | jcbjoe | wow this bug goes back to 2010 |
| 07:04.18 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 07:04.21 | *** join/#debian Amandil (~Amandil@gw3.tacwap.org) |
| 07:04.59 | *** join/#debian bst_ (~bst@net172-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 07:05.23 | *** join/#debian michele_n (~michele_n@net-93-148-66-38.cust.dsl.teletu.it) |
| 07:05.27 | *** join/#debian hotkey (~hotkey@58-6-142-48.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 07:05.31 | *** join/#debian impulse150 (~impulse15@188-183-95-151-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 07:05.40 | maxyz | Is gnome-keyring running? |
| 07:06.25 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leoneof@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 07:06.48 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@c-68-35-49-173.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 07:07.01 | jcbjoe | nope |
| 07:07.09 | maxyz | try set | grep keyring on a terminal. |
| 07:07.18 | maxyz | What's the result? |
| 07:07.20 | rabbieth | /buffer 2 |
| 07:07.20 | jcbjoe | what does that do ? |
| 07:07.26 | rabbieth | sorry |
| 07:07.44 | jcbjoe | everyones on weechat |
| 07:07.44 | jcbjoe | :P |
| 07:07.48 | jcbjoe | weechat rocks |
| 07:07.59 | jcbjoe | rabbieth, how did you get 4.0 also ? |
| 07:08.30 | rabbieth | by make -C /usr/ports/irc/weechat install clean :P |
| 07:08.37 | *** join/#debian giuscri (~giuscri@5.168.17.223) |
| 07:08.38 | jcbjoe | lol |
| 07:09.13 | maxyz | set shows the current environment variables, | grep keyring is to filter it to get the environment variable that is set to /home/jcbjoe.cache/keyring-kDg0s4/pkcs11 |
| 07:09.24 | jcbjoe | ok cool |
| 07:10.00 | jcbjoe | maxyz, its in there /home/jcbjoe/.cache/keyring |
| 07:10.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1393] by debhelper |
| 07:10.10 | jcbjoe | maxyz, this is a brand new install of debian how would this happen ? |
| 07:10.14 | giuscri | Hi there. I'm trying to understand what's written inside the 'interfaces-file' (/etc/network/interfaces). Ok: what's a loopback interface? Where can I learn something about it? Thanks |
| 07:10.19 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~unknown@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 07:10.21 | maxyz | My guess is that gnome-keyring was started when you logged in, but it died, somehow. |
| 07:10.37 | jcbjoe | actually |
| 07:10.40 | jcbjoe | check this out |
| 07:11.00 | *** join/#debian harobed_ (~stephane-@sab57-2-82-236-241-203.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:11.04 | *** join/#debian Benkinooby (~benedict@unaffiliated/benkinooby) |
| 07:11.25 | jcbjoe | set |grep -i 'keyring' shows me GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=home/jcjoe/.cache/keyring-kDg0s4 GNOME_KEYRING_PID= 3365 |
| 07:11.35 | *** join/#debian Mmike (~msplival@188.252.168.123) |
| 07:11.44 | maxyz | jcbjoe: You might want to close your current session and start a new one. |
| 07:11.52 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@h136n4-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 07:12.28 | maxyz | else, you could unset GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL and GNOME_KEYRING_PID, so the programs you launch on that terminal won't try to connect to gnome-keyring |
| 07:12.37 | *** join/#debian ksinny (quassel@kde/developer/sinnykumari) |
| 07:12.44 | maxyz | But, that's just for that terminal |
| 07:12.49 | jcbjoe | i will .. since I'm still new after i ran taskel i started removing server stuff / ssh and stuff i acciently did debian eniviornement lol / its putting it all back now |
| 07:12.55 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-92-222-96.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 07:12.58 | *** join/#debian nwps (~niko@cl-849.hel-01.fi.sixxs.net) |
| 07:13.13 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 07:13.36 | Benkinooby | hi, if i wanted to modify /etc/default/keyboard manually instead of using the assitant offered by keyboard-configuration - how can i find out what layouts and vairants for xkb are available? |
| 07:13.58 | *** join/#debian ivek (~Icedove@91.212.44.254) |
| 07:14.08 | maxyz | giuscri: The loopback interface (lo) is a virtual interface that connects your computer with itself. |
| 07:14.13 | Benkinooby | i guess somewhere there must be a directory, where all thoses keyboard layouts are stored. |
| 07:14.17 | *** join/#debian jehan (~jehan@kiel4-dmz.gis.de) |
| 07:14.37 | *** join/#debian spidernik84 (~spidernik@h-176-10-227-98.na.cust.bahnhof.se) |
| 07:14.59 | giuscri | Benkinooby: what about `man loadkey` ? |
| 07:15.39 | Benkinooby | giuscri: No manual entry for loadkey |
| 07:15.51 | Benkinooby | giuscri: do i have to install something for that? |
| 07:15.52 | maxyz | giuscri: It uses 127.0.0.1/8 (that's 2^24 addresses) in ipv4, and ::1/128 (that's 1 ip address) in ipv6 |
| 07:15.52 | giuscri | Benkinooby: oops: it's `man loadkeys` |
| 07:16.31 | *** join/#debian lotherk (~lotherk@office.corpex-net.de) |
| 07:16.37 | *** join/#debian pLk (~scooper@xdslbf217.osnanet.de) |
| 07:16.44 | *** join/#debian Havis (~Havis@adsl-dyn-232.95-102-119.t-com.sk) |
| 07:17.40 | jcbjoe | maxyz, I'm going to reboot to see what happens |
| 07:17.42 | maxyz | man 5 interfaces explains the format of /etc/network/interfaces, but the network concepts are required. |
| 07:17.59 | *** join/#debian ninjak (~ninjak@77.239.137.142) |
| 07:18.23 | *** join/#debian weezz (~user@ddo108.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 07:18.25 | maxyz | jcbjoe: Mmh, make sure you finished installing stuff before that |
| 07:18.27 | giuscri | maxyz: `the network concepts are required` ...I see! Where can I learn more about networks? |
| 07:18.53 | giuscri | Benkinooby: was that what you were searching for? |
| 07:18.56 | Benkinooby | giuscri: that looks insteresting. but i don't have the default keymap-dir /usr/share/keymaps - but that might be because i use ubuntu right now |
| 07:18.59 | *** join/#debian fikst (~fikst@d54C442D5.access.telenet.be) |
| 07:19.02 | jcbjoe | maxyz, i did .. maxyz i just rebooted right / came to the login screen / went to choose the session right i have lxde and open box and gnome |
| 07:19.03 | jcbjoe | wtf |
| 07:19.25 | Benkinooby | giuscri: but now i know how those files are usually named - a find will do, thank you |
| 07:19.39 | *** join/#debian asterismo (~asterismo@r186-52-232-241.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 07:19.48 | *** join/#debian mi (~mi@unaffiliated/mi) |
| 07:19.55 | *** join/#debian tremon (~aschuring@d594e6a3.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 07:19.57 | jcbjoe | aptitude remove ~n'gnome'~no'penbox' ? |
| 07:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1407] by debhelper |
| 07:20.04 | jcbjoe | err |
| 07:20.09 | jcbjoe | ~n'openbox' |
| 07:20.12 | jcbjoe | that look good ? |
| 07:20.38 | tremon | if you want to remove all packages that have both gnome and openbox in their name, then yes |
| 07:20.43 | maxyz | giuscri: Most of the things you can google them. There are a number of books, it depends on the level of details you care about. |
| 07:20.58 | *** join/#debian Arsenik (~Cyanure@81-64-170-44.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 07:21.18 | *** join/#debian daveX7 (~py@adfb55be.cst.lightpath.net) |
| 07:21.41 | maxyz | jcbjoe: openbox is a small package, I would not care about it. |
| 07:21.47 | Benkinooby | giuscri: do you have a /usr/share/keymaps folder |
| 07:21.49 | Benkinooby | ? |
| 07:22.09 | jcbjoe | maxyz, i have so much installed with gnome .. ~i~n'gnome' i think the whole gnome is installed .. a lot have i A next to it |
| 07:22.33 | *** join/#debian prince_jammys (~mischa@pool-108-6-107-43.nycmny.east.verizon.net) |
| 07:22.37 | maxyz | Mmh, that's not a good idea. |
| 07:22.41 | jcbjoe | A = auto right ? |
| 07:22.44 | jcbjoe | oh ok |
| 07:22.57 | giuscri | Benkinooby: Just seen that. I have *no* /usr/share/keymaps folder ... |
| 07:23.03 | maxyz | That would remove every package which contains the word gnome on it's name. |
| 07:23.10 | giuscri | Benkinooby: that's quite interesting. |
| 07:23.14 | Benkinooby | giuscri: Oo |
| 07:23.31 | giuscri | Benkinooby: (and I'm logged in with *Debian*) |
| 07:23.31 | maxyz | and lxde depends on parts of gnome. |
| 07:24.03 | jcbjoe | i can install i3-wm its a tiling wm i really like it |
| 07:24.06 | Benkinooby | giuscri: so the only way is to call dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration ? (apart fomr setting it inside x or with a DE) |
| 07:24.07 | jcbjoe | i don't need gnome or lxde |
| 07:24.10 | jcbjoe | i was just trying it |
| 07:24.11 | maxyz | So, no, remove the gnome package, and do an apt-get autoremove (check the list first) |
| 07:24.18 | maxyz | Oh, ok |
| 07:24.54 | jcbjoe | i would like a guy desktop or something fancy but if its going to be crazy its ok |
| 07:25.03 | giuscri | Benkinooby: I don't really know. I've just google the stuff and trying to figure it out. |
| 07:25.36 | Benkinooby | giuscri: this dpkg.reconfigure does noting else but to fill in /etc/default/keyboard - i wonder where it gets its list of available settings |
| 07:25.45 | Benkinooby | can't be rocket science |
| 07:27.27 | *** join/#debian rvchangue (~rvchangue@unaffiliated/rvchangue) |
| 07:27.31 | Benkinooby | giuscri: all hints i find point to running that wizard... |
| 07:27.56 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 07:28.00 | jcbjoe | maxyz, at this point can i uninstall gnome ? i don't need it |
| 07:28.06 | *** part/#debian weezz (~user@ddo108.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 07:28.14 | jcbjoe | gnome and ldxe |
| 07:28.32 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: just make sure you have a decent display manager - lightdm, kdm or gdm |
| 07:28.49 | jcbjoe | i can install ightdm |
| 07:28.53 | jcbjoe | i used that let time on ubuntu |
| 07:28.54 | jcbjoe | :D |
| 07:29.00 | jcbjoe | let me install it now actually |
| 07:29.48 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: jesterday i made the "interesting" experience that xdm, slim or even startx will get you in trouble (got to do with console kit and permissions) |
| 07:30.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1400] by debhelper |
| 07:30.19 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: so lightdm is the "lightest" dm you can get without pain |
| 07:30.21 | *** join/#debian jargon (~jargon@unaffiliated/jargon-) |
| 07:30.45 | *** join/#debian zorg1 (~zorg1@peniche.pck.nerim.net) |
| 07:30.46 | jcbjoe | yea i hated consolkit with gem or some wm |
| 07:30.47 | jcbjoe | i forgot |
| 07:30.58 | *** join/#debian akcx (~akcx@2001:470:b7a5:421:224:7eff:fee0:8739) |
| 07:31.10 | *** join/#debian pLk (~scooper@xdslbf217.osnanet.de) |
| 07:31.10 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@203.126.171.206) |
| 07:31.20 | *** join/#debian dc5ala (~dc5ala@stgt-5f70b789.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 07:33.00 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: gem? (its too generic to find something usefil with google) |
| 07:34.08 | xingu | Benkinooby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_Environment_Manager probably. |
| 07:34.09 | jcbjoe | gem ? |
| 07:34.20 | jcbjoe | i3 rocks |
| 07:34.21 | jcbjoe | :D |
| 07:34.30 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@119.42.75.245) |
| 07:34.51 | maxyz | Benkinooby: Mmh, that should work, what session were you trying to start? |
| 07:34.55 | *** join/#debian NotJimCarrey (~notjimcar@180.94.85.2) |
| 07:35.06 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@203.126.171.206) |
| 07:35.09 | jcbjoe | i was on debian the last 2 weeks i installed aptitude on there to get used to it .. I'm fully on debian wheezy now .. i just did a install about an hour ago but have been fully with this gnome-keyring .. i still have to setup wifi / sound /adobe lol |
| 07:35.21 | jcbjoe | glad I'm not a novice to linux i would be screwed |
| 07:35.41 | Benkinooby | giuscri: http://askubuntu.com/questions/153115/how-do-i-change-the-system-default-keyboard (it's ubuntu though - can you verify in debian?) |
| 07:36.02 | jelly-home | !keymap |
| 07:36.03 | dpkg | Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
| 07:36.23 | jcbjoe | this is what i don't understand .. if wheezy is stable right .. why are all the higher packages on different builds.. if so do i have to back port to get that new version ? |
| 07:36.43 | *** join/#debian rumpel (~rumpel@116.225.243.102) |
| 07:37.04 | giuscri | Benkinooby: ok: I'm trying now =) |
| 07:37.36 | *** join/#debian navneet_ (~navneet@59.99.227.133) |
| 07:37.42 | Benkinooby | maxyz: um, am i the right guy you wanted to message? |
| 07:37.49 | Benkinooby | xingu: thx |
| 07:37.51 | maxyz | jcbjoe: You mean why are there no newer version of packages for stable? |
| 07:38.20 | maxyz | Benkinooby: 09:29:48 Benkinooby jcbjoe: jesterday i made the "interesting" experience that xdm, slim or even startx... |
| 07:38.21 | *** join/#debian AlexLikeRock (~AlexLikeR@unaffiliated/alexlikerock) |
| 07:38.23 | giuscri | dpkg: what if I have the man page for dpkg-reconfigure but I can't launch it? |
| 07:38.25 | dpkg | giuscri: You are person #2 to send an unparseable request |
| 07:38.37 | jcbjoe | yes maxyz |
| 07:38.40 | *** join/#debian iqualfragile (~iqualfrag@unaffiliated/iqualfragile) |
| 07:39.09 | navneet_ | hello all |
| 07:39.32 | *** join/#debian avnish (~avnish@59.99.227.133) |
| 07:39.34 | AlexLikeRock | hi |
| 07:39.44 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@78.110.68.212) |
| 07:39.46 | Benkinooby | maxyz: fluxbox session. i had this discussed with babile (add an n to his name - don't want to ring his bell) and it is a known bug |
| 07:39.50 | maxyz | jcbjoe: Well, thats the definition of stable, it doesn't change, it just get fixes for really important bugs. |
| 07:39.56 | *** part/#debian AlexLikeRock (~AlexLikeR@unaffiliated/alexlikerock) |
| 07:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1410] by debhelper |
| 07:40.14 | giuscri | dpkg: what is my unparseble question? |
| 07:40.15 | jcbjoe | ummm i want to remove open box and lxde at the same time '~nopenbox~nlxde' |
| 07:40.15 | dpkg | giuscri: what are you talking about? |
| 07:40.15 | navneet_ | avnish: hii |
| 07:40.18 | jcbjoe | does that look right ? |
| 07:40.40 | *** join/#debian m3g9tr0n (~magnum@ppp-94-64-194-118.home.otenet.gr) |
| 07:40.40 | maxyz | jcbjoe: apt-get remove openbox lxde |
| 07:40.58 | giuscri | dpkg: I can't run dpkg-reconfigure ...though I have a manpage for it. |
| 07:40.58 | dpkg | giuscri: wish i knew |
| 07:41.00 | *** join/#debian AbsintheSyringe (~havoc@changeme.ebuddy.com) |
| 07:41.07 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: just curious - what do you want to achive? |
| 07:41.10 | maxyz | You can do an apt-get autoremove afterwards |
| 07:41.22 | jcbjoe | why would i archive ? |
| 07:43.06 | jelly-home | achieve* |
| 07:44.37 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: what's your aim? |
| 07:44.37 | Benkinooby | giuscri: also you have to restart some sevice to make the changes take effect |
| 07:44.48 | Benkinooby | that what i recall from yesterday XD |
| 07:45.12 | jcbjoe | Benkinooby, my issue was a gnome-keyring with a fresh install i just went back to i3 |
| 07:45.44 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: oh, ok |
| 07:46.17 | jcbjoe | can i use aptitude to find to packages at 1 time ? |
| 07:46.21 | jcbjoe | two* |
| 07:46.34 | jcbjoe | ~n(tmux, weechat) ? |
| 07:46.58 | Benkinooby | tmux ftw! |
| 07:47.02 | jcbjoe | yea |
| 07:51.18 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: what GUI do you use? |
| 07:52.07 | jcbjoe | i3-wm |
| 07:52.11 | jcbjoe | its a tiling window manager |
| 07:52.23 | *** join/#debian Deele (~Deele@87.226.56.21) |
| 07:52.26 | jcbjoe | http://i3wm.org/screenshots/ |
| 07:52.33 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: argh - you just mentioned it before -.- sorry i forgot |
| 07:52.54 | *** join/#debian neantpas_ (~neantpast@dsl-10-132-126.b2b2c.ca) |
| 07:53.23 | jelly-home | jcbjoe: does it not have a boolean OR operator? maybe something like aptitude search '~ntmux | ~nweechat' |
| 07:53.24 | *** join/#debian g_r_eek (~g_r_eek@ppp-94-68-157-174.home.otenet.gr) |
| 07:53.32 | *** join/#debian teff (~teff@client-86-29-225-149.pete.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 07:53.35 | giuscri | ooops, Benkinooby, I'm sorry. I had some troubles. |
| 07:53.58 | Benkinooby | giuscri: no problem - if you have fixed them ;) |
| 07:54.06 | jcbjoe | that worked perfect |
| 07:54.23 | *** join/#debian xrosnight (~quassel@116.76.166.121) |
| 07:55.07 | giuscri | Benkinooby: already fixed, but at the moment I'm stucked with a new problem: trying to help you I've just found out that I can't run `dpkg-reconfigure` ...! (I'm a novice). Keep on working --and googling. |
| 07:55.16 | *** join/#debian mi_ (~mi@unaffiliated/mi) |
| 07:55.35 | *** join/#debian iqualfragile (~iqualfrag@unaffiliated/iqualfragile) |
| 07:56.38 | *** join/#debian rbnielsen (~rbnielsen@2-109-204-209-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 07:56.50 | Iridos | giuscri, it's in /usr/sbin ... which is by default only available to the user root |
| 07:56.53 | Benkinooby | giuscri: well, i got my problem solved with usig dpkg-reconfigure so you don't need to bother about me. but not being able to run dpkg-reconfigure is baaaad |
| 07:56.53 | *** join/#debian NealJ (~Neal@82-170-253-169.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 07:57.14 | Benkinooby | giuscri: also second thought is was Iridos said :P |
| 07:57.15 | *** join/#debian neantpastel (~neantpast@dsl-158-219.b2b2c.ca) |
| 07:57.38 | *** join/#debian kelpie (~username@static-81-219-121-23.devs.futuro.pl) |
| 07:57.43 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: but isn't i3 + tmux not some kind of overkill? |
| 07:57.47 | kelpie | hi guys |
| 07:57.48 | *** join/#debian mick0 (~user@unaffiliated/mick0) |
| 07:57.56 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: or do you use tmux for putting stoff to the background |
| 07:58.01 | Benkinooby | *stuff |
| 07:58.02 | giuscri | Benkinooby: just found that! I had not the right privileges :) |
| 07:58.13 | jcbjoe | yea lol |
| 07:58.20 | jcbjoe | guys |
| 07:58.38 | jcbjoe | lode has a pB next to it |
| 07:58.42 | jcbjoe | lxde* |
| 07:59.34 | *** join/#debian beboj (~beboj@de1x.mullvad.net) |
| 07:59.36 | kelpie | i have a problem installing debian on a old embeded device (512hdd,256ram) using debian installer |
| 08:00.03 | giuscri | Benkinooby: ok, but you have solved in the sense you have now the `/usr/share/keymaps` folder? |
| 08:00.04 | kelpie | i guess it can't download repository indexes during apt configuration |
| 08:00.20 | giuscri | Benkinooby: or you've just changed the layout? |
| 08:00.26 | jcbjoe | pB was remove but its borken |
| 08:00.27 | *** join/#debian quiritius (~quiritius@213-154-210-35.static.vega-ua.net) |
| 08:01.00 | ChrisH | kelpie: you need to be a bit more precise. check ALT-F4 for errors |
| 08:01.08 | Benkinooby | giuscri: no i don't have the folder, but now i know what strigs are valid to be set in /etc/default/keyboard |
| 08:01.09 | *** join/#debian daniel_s (~Icedove@77-23-128-150-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 08:01.23 | *** join/#debian KidCartouche (~jbanier@217.111.230.156) |
| 08:01.30 | kelpie | ChrisH: i'm using console installer, debug says: |
| 08:01.36 | Benkinooby | giuscri: i still don't know where exactly those files are |
| 08:02.00 | giuscri | Benkinooby: ok, though the fact that the manpage seems inaccurate sounds strange ...! |
| 08:02.01 | kelpie | 404 or invalid header line |
| 08:02.19 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@193.105.140.131) |
| 08:02.28 | kelpie | i can ping repositories or wget the packages though |
| 08:02.33 | Benkinooby | giuscri: yep that's quite weired... |
| 08:03.21 | *** join/#debian _bt (foobar@unaffiliated/bt/x-192343) |
| 08:03.40 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~BW~Merlin@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 08:03.42 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: are you using command line aptidude or the ncurse interface? |
| 08:03.53 | *** join/#debian goly (~goly@178-36-15-96.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 08:03.59 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@93.49.23.56) |
| 08:04.16 | Iridos | kelpie, if that doesn't happen on "apt-get update", then run "apt-get update" ... |
| 08:04.25 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 08:04.43 | jcbjoe | Benkinooby, i really want to use just the cli but nobody really talks about it lol .. I'm suing the cli and I'm using the guy aptitude (well its blue) |
| 08:04.44 | jcbjoe | _ |
| 08:04.46 | Iridos | kelpie, if it does, getting packages isn't the problem, apt cannot access the file Packages.gz (or similar meta info) |
| 08:05.14 | Iridos | suing the cli... poor cli |
| 08:05.18 | kelpie | Iridos: i'm at the installer i don't have apt |
| 08:05.33 | Iridos | oh, right, you said |
| 08:05.48 | Iridos | tried choosing a different mirror? |
| 08:05.55 | kelpie | like 10 of them |
| 08:05.58 | jcbjoe | i should have installed the standard iso not the one with a desktop preinstalled |
| 08:06.05 | *** join/#debian alexei (~amgarchin@theo1.theochem.tu-muenchen.de) |
| 08:06.57 | Iridos | hm, sounds strange |
| 08:07.17 | kelpie | i've never seen anything like that before |
| 08:07.29 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.140.208.27) |
| 08:07.32 | *** join/#debian Robert_L (~Robert_L@c-76-110-201-132.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 08:08.42 | *** join/#debian Mikrop_ (~mikrop@office.bearstech.com) |
| 08:10.30 | *** join/#debian nevyn (~nevyn@66.85.144.254) |
| 08:10.33 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 08:10.39 | *** join/#debian neantpas_ (~neantpast@dsl-10-128-203.b2b2c.ca) |
| 08:10.54 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@203.126.171.206) |
| 08:11.01 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 08:11.50 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~bitcount@81.61.208.23.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 08:12.23 | *** join/#debian Sevet (steveayre@2.217.197.202) |
| 08:13.21 | *** join/#debian clefebvre (~clem@92.251.217.64.threembb.ie) |
| 08:13.22 | *** join/#debian AciD` (~gni@jau72-5-78-223-56-21.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:13.27 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: hm. i don'T know how to fix broken dependicies - but usually it should be ok to build your system bottom-up |
| 08:13.39 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 08:13.42 | *** join/#debian kmels (~kmels@190.56.121.105) |
| 08:14.33 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@178.16.14.137) |
| 08:14.38 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 08:14.59 | tremon | kelpie: you're not, by and change, trying to install lenny or older, are you? |
| 08:15.00 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: well, there is sudo aptitude -f |
| 08:15.26 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: but this might fix it - or hurt you even more :P |
| 08:15.45 | mischief | sometimes i hate linux a lot |
| 08:15.48 | kelpie | tremon: no i didn't i'm trying to install jessie |
| 08:16.12 | mischief | attempting to make audio work with libvirt has wasted 5 hours of my life |
| 08:16.17 | mischief | and i still haven't got it |
| 08:16.24 | kelpie | oh i red "have you tried" |
| 08:16.26 | somiaj | kelpie: are you using the testing installer, it can be broken. Might want to install wheezy base system and upgrade from there. |
| 08:17.19 | tremon | mischief: pulseaudio running? |
| 08:17.27 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 08:17.45 | jcbjoe | lol |
| 08:17.57 | kelpie | somiaj: you know i made a fresh install from that iso on the other machine few days earlier and everything went well |
| 08:18.03 | jcbjoe | i just did -f and it removed everything .. i really wanted 1 gnome package nm-applet it just reinstalled it back |
| 08:18.05 | jcbjoe | o_O |
| 08:18.06 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 08:18.20 | *** join/#debian steb (~steb@85.199.135.177) |
| 08:18.58 | mischief | tremon: i guess not |
| 08:19.18 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: lol - but, are your dependicies now fixed? |
| 08:19.28 | jcbjoe | yea |
| 08:19.41 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: because if your deps are broken, you can't do ANYTHING - that includes removing |
| 08:19.42 | mischief | tremon: i use alsa.. i think |
| 08:19.52 | *** join/#debian tormen (~me@no-panic.eu) |
| 08:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1421] by debhelper |
| 08:20.42 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: so you want to have nm-applet, but not the gnome stuff? |
| 08:20.59 | Iridos | kelpie, well, still installing wheezy and upgrading to jessie is the generally recommended way... testing can change. Perhaps something in the paths on the mirror changed *shrug* |
| 08:21.46 | tremon | mischief: how are you using the vm? you need to connect with a client that supports audio |
| 08:22.01 | mischief | tremon: um |
| 08:22.08 | jcbjoe | know what |
| 08:22.17 | jcbjoe | the guy aptitude is faster and smarter |
| 08:22.18 | jcbjoe | i think |
| 08:22.25 | mischief | tremon: i want it to play audio on the system speakers |
| 08:22.29 | *** join/#debian unborn (~ugly@188-167-246-214.dynamic.chello.sk) |
| 08:22.35 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 08:22.43 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: its GUI = graphical user interface |
| 08:22.48 | mischief | i dont want to use spice or vnc or any of that |
| 08:22.54 | kelpie | Iridos: i realize. i'll skip apt conf in the installer for now and i'll try to fix it from the base system |
| 08:23.34 | tremon | mischief: the speakers of the host system? In that case you may need to use pci passthrough for the audio device, have never used it like that |
| 08:23.53 | mischief | tremon: there's no way to share it? |
| 08:24.36 | mischief | seems silly to run e.g. vnc all the time just to get audio |
| 08:24.50 | mischief | and the host needs to be able to play audio too |
| 08:25.43 | *** join/#debian skler (~skler@gateway/tor-sasl/skler) |
| 08:26.04 | tremon | it should be possible, according to http://www.linux-kvm.com/content/sound-problem-solved |
| 08:26.58 | tremon | mischief: maybe ask on #qemu if you're using kvm virtualization |
| 08:28.26 | mischief | tremon: eh but also using libvirt :/ |
| 08:28.35 | mischief | i am using kvm too |
| 08:28.45 | mischief | libvirt managed kvm instances.. |
| 08:28.56 | mischief | seems impossible to get this the way i want |
| 08:29.42 | CissWit | mischief: if you were not able to solve your problem, an ugly fix could be to use pulseaudio. pulseaudio can be used to stream sound over network (audio client in the vm would "send" sound over network to your local pulseaudio server). |
| 08:30.02 | mischief | vm guest not support pulse |
| 08:30.28 | *** join/#debian boycottg00gle (~user@stgt-5f719cdf.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 08:30.30 | mischief | i might just run the guest without libvirt |
| 08:30.33 | mischief | then it might work |
| 08:31.47 | *** join/#debian jehan (~jehan@kiel4-dmz.gis.de) |
| 08:32.00 | *** join/#debian RDash[AW] (~evilRDash@240.b1.ipv4.86id.nl) |
| 08:32.45 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 08:32.49 | *** join/#debian drhouse123 (~drhouse12@2.134.155.149) |
| 08:33.16 | *** join/#debian wathek_ (~wathek@183.83.138.58) |
| 08:33.41 | *** join/#debian RDash (~evilRDash@unaffiliated/companion) |
| 08:34.28 | *** join/#debian samuel (~samuel@187.189.0.248) |
| 08:35.42 | *** join/#debian noname001 (~santaclau@62-50-207-80.client.stsn.net) |
| 08:36.13 | *** join/#debian keatont (~keatont@66.172.12.228) |
| 08:36.26 | jcbjoe | guys |
| 08:36.38 | jcbjoe | can i do a reverse search on something .. I'm installing something right and it says it need aclocal |
| 08:36.54 | jcbjoe | can i use aptitude or apt get to find aclocal or what package has it? |
| 08:37.35 | koollman | jcbjoe: a very nice tool you can install is apt-file . then apt-file update, then apt-file search aclocal |
| 08:37.50 | Benkinooby | jcbjoe: sudo aptitude install aclocal maybe? |
| 08:38.02 | *** join/#debian safejav (~safejav@200.127.117.240) |
| 08:38.49 | mischief | it's part of autoconf |
| 08:39.31 | tremon | jcbjoe: the general answer is to use apt-file search |
| 08:39.44 | tremon | apt-file is a separate package |
| 08:39.45 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 08:39.46 | *** join/#debian codesoup (~codesoup@206-248-183-195.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 08:39.54 | *** join/#debian mobileblue (~mobileblu@dslb-094-217-235-073.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 08:40.28 | *** join/#debian freeayu (~freeayu2@117.24.223.57) |
| 08:40.39 | kelpie | ok it is getting really weird |
| 08:41.00 | kelpie | booted base system and now i can do apt-get update |
| 08:41.49 | kelpie | but while apt "reads packages list" i get "bus error" after 30% |
| 08:42.11 | kelpie | nothing more just "bus error" |
| 08:42.29 | jcbjoe | there are to many results |
| 08:43.03 | jcbjoe | how did you narrow it down |
| 08:43.10 | *** join/#debian Konomi (~Konomi@unaffiliated/konomi) |
| 08:43.54 | jcbjoe | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.47 | kelpie | lel |
| 08:45.07 | kelpie | ok i guess 512mb is not enough to install debian |
| 08:45.45 | mischief | ok, well, i stopped using libvirt and use kvm directly |
| 08:45.55 | mischief | audio plays in the vm but it gets stuck in a loop :D |
| 08:46.04 | *** join/#debian ivek (~Icedove@91.212.44.254) |
| 08:46.10 | *** part/#debian nonconvergent (~neuromanc@c-24-30-40-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 08:46.41 | *** join/#debian metaphysician (~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder) |
| 08:47.03 | maxyz | kelpie: It depends on what you want to run in it |
| 08:48.39 | maxyz | kelpie: some buildds are running with 128mb ram, for example. |
| 08:48.46 | tomodachi | kelpie: actually it is , the raspberry pi only has 512mb of ram seems to work quite ok |
| 08:49.09 | kelpie | maxyz: tomodachi 512mb hdd guys |
| 08:49.30 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 08:49.31 | tomodachi | oh :) |
| 08:49.43 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@93.49.23.56) |
| 08:49.46 | tomodachi | kelpie: well nfs boot! |
| 08:49.54 | *** join/#debian scottj (~scott@206.212.250.58) |
| 08:50.32 | maxyz | Mmh, you could make that work, but not with the default installation. Probably emdebian. |
| 08:50.45 | scottj | I'm running stable, but mtp/gmtp version doesn't seem to work with my new nexus7, if I want gmtp out of testing is there a way to use it even though it depends on a newer version of libc than is in stable? |
| 08:51.07 | kelpie | maxyz: embedian you say |
| 08:52.02 | *** join/#debian achadwick (~achadwick@nat-alpha.ceu.ox.ac.uk) |
| 08:52.10 | maxyz | kelpie: http://www.emdebian.org/ grip |
| 08:52.34 | *** join/#debian th0rsten (99600c1a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.153.96.12.26) |
| 08:53.21 | *** join/#debian user_guy (5fd39598@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.211.149.152) |
| 08:53.44 | th0rsten | Not really necessarily debian related, but how can I grab frames from a webcam using the commandline and shouldn't there be a /dev/video0 which I am missing? |
| 08:54.16 | maxyz | scottj: Not sure, you can always try to compile it in wheezy and see if it works for you. |
| 08:54.19 | *** join/#debian calvinx (~calvinx@203.126.171.206) |
| 08:54.33 | maxyz | scottj: I think the issue is in libmtp, not in gmtp |
| 08:54.46 | boycottg00gle | codesearch down? |
| 08:55.35 | *** join/#debian nocoast (~quassel@2607:f3f0:2::cf34:f2b0) |
| 08:56.49 | kelpie | maxyz: do you know if packages from official debian sid repo are compatiblile with it? |
| 08:57.40 | user_guy | i'm having a problem with changing a setting in system settings. well, two problems. the first problem is when i go to system setting > desktop effects > advanced, and change composting type from XRender to OpenGL, press apply, and go back, it stays at XRender. no matter how many times i've tried this, it goes back to XRander after i press apply and go back. |
| 08:57.42 | maxyz | kelpie: Yes |
| 08:58.19 | user_guy | my second problem is much shorter, and probably simpler. i only have one resolution in my system settings, and i dont know how to add others, despite googling for two hours or so |
| 08:58.36 | maxyz | At least, it works for my nexus 7 in kde. (which uses kio-mtp, which is compiled against libmtp, afaik) |
| 08:58.50 | kelpie | maxyz: sweet dd'ing iso right now :) |
| 08:59.37 | *** join/#debian sylon (~sylon@unaffiliated/sylon) |
| 09:00.10 | sylon | is it possible to install debian from the boot CD via wifi ? (is wifi config possible on debian installer) |
| 09:00.29 | *** join/#debian CSKA-SS-FRONT (~disney@host-212-75-11-10.bbccable.net) |
| 09:00.36 | maxyz | If your card is supported |
| 09:01.04 | nevyn | sylon: yes possible. you may need a usb key with firmware tho |
| 09:01.26 | sylon | how would i know? i believe its a intel a/b/g/n integrated wifi |
| 09:01.26 | nevyn | sylon: or with an unofficial cd that includes the firmware. |
| 09:03.21 | *** join/#debian jelly (~jelly@pdpc/supporter/active/jelly) |
| 09:04.05 | *** join/#debian quinso (~crabman@h86-62-100-131.ln.rinet.ru) |
| 09:04.24 | quinso | How can I check logs like Xorg.0.log with human-readable time? |
| 09:04.25 | *** join/#debian KidCartouche (~jbanier@194.183.244.5) |
| 09:05.07 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@193.105.140.131) |
| 09:05.49 | *** join/#debian Stygia (~gmpsaifi@x1-6-00-21-9b-e8-d0-5a.k663.webspeed.dk) |
| 09:05.57 | *** join/#debian Yitro (~Yitro@101.164.245.158) |
| 09:07.22 | *** join/#debian farn (frantk@fran.tk) |
| 09:08.32 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@icm-241-138.icm.uu.se) |
| 09:10.40 | *** join/#debian quinso (~crabman@h86-62-100-131.ln.rinet.ru) |
| 09:11.43 | *** join/#debian ne0sis (~quassel@41-135-84-25.dsl.mweb.co.za) |
| 09:13.02 | boycottg00gle | any known bugs using squid3 and git clone? |
| 09:14.25 | boycottg00gle | or maybe it is a armhf bug? i often see this when using squid3 as http proxy for git clone on a debian/wheezy/armhf "error: inflate: data stream error (incorrect data check)" |
| 09:14.41 | GabrieleV | Hello, I've upgraded to wheezy, and now my text mode console is at the wrong resolution. How to set it to "normal vga" text mode" ? Thank you ! |
| 09:15.30 | tomodachi | GabrieleV: you can set it in your grub config i believe |
| 09:15.36 | *** join/#debian zappy (~zuppy@xdsl-188-118-142-182.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 09:15.52 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@233.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 09:16.15 | GabrieleV | tomodachi, I've tried to add GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet gfxpayload=text" it's better, but nothing to do. Refresh rate is too high :-( |
| 09:16.24 | quinso | Some time ago I used some config files with "ld" in its names to configure symlinks for libraries. Now I can't find it. Does anybody know what and where that could be? |
| 09:17.19 | *** join/#debian Axlin (~quassel@252.142-205-66.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 09:17.23 | quinso | It was a folder where I would place config files to link folders to other folders |
| 09:18.12 | quinso | Nevermind, found it. |
| 09:18.33 | jcbjoe | i forgot this command i want to cat a file in a directory and grp the file its in |
| 09:18.34 | *** join/#debian MonkWitDaFunk (~TOronto@24.114.36.180) |
| 09:19.19 | jcbjoe | aw -l |
| 09:20.33 | *** join/#debian jcbbjoe (~jcbjoe@c-50-173-42-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:21.20 | jcbbjoe | yea its working .. i figured out about the ipv6 like you said it was part of the defaults in weechat |
| 09:21.36 | jcbbjoe | i did a grep -l 'ipv' * it was in irc.conf the defualts was on |
| 09:22.30 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 09:23.31 | *** join/#debian spade (~rheturd@5.63.144.228) |
| 09:27.54 | GabrieleV | How do I force text console resolution to normal 80x25 text mode in Debian Wheezy ? Grub text mode is correct, but after the early boot stages, resolution goes up, and the video is unreadable (it remains in text mode). |
| 09:29.09 | maxyz | GabrieleV: I thinks it's vga=normal as a kernel parameter |
| 09:29.11 | scottj | How do I look at how a specific deb package is built, like what arguments it passes to make and such? |
| 09:29.14 | *** join/#debian mactheknife7 (~chatzilla@153-1.mxp.dsl.internl.net) |
| 09:29.43 | maxyz | scottj: you check the debian/rules |
| 09:29.50 | mactheknife7 | I am looking for a very simple program to add subtitles in an avi, anyone a good suggestion? |
| 09:29.52 | maxyz | (of the source package) |
| 09:30.21 | GabrieleV | maxyz, Still with 3.x kernels ? |
| 09:30.35 | *** join/#debian arvind_khadri (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 09:30.38 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 09:30.54 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 09:31.14 | *** join/#debian tacos1de (~tacos1de@gateway/tor-sasl/tacos1de) |
| 09:31.33 | *** join/#debian Malsasa (~quassel@114.79.59.222) |
| 09:32.50 | maxyz | GabrieleV: It seems to work in a wheezy vm, so, yes |
| 09:33.55 | *** join/#debian kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) |
| 09:34.00 | GabrieleV | maxyz, Let's try. My doubt is that video mode is switched after assempling raid arrays, so I suspect is a "userland" script that changes it... |
| 09:34.04 | maxyz | No, wait, it boot in 80x25 by default. :( |
| 09:35.05 | GabrieleV | maxyz, with squeeze, I had no problems. After upgrading, the trouble :-( |
| 09:35.19 | GabrieleV | maxyz, I'm trying with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet gfxpayload=text vga=normal" |
| 09:35.36 | *** join/#debian Yukikaze (yuki@2607:5300:60:1008:192:95:18:195) |
| 09:37.09 | maxyz | GabrieleV: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup ? |
| 09:37.14 | GabrieleV | maxyz, kernel says: vga=normal is deprecated. Use gfxpayload=text instead ! |
| 09:37.37 | *** join/#debian m8 (~m@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 09:37.48 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:37.53 | GabrieleV | maxyz, It was not installed. I installed and choose "do not change kernel font" |
| 09:37.57 | *** join/#debian MonkWitDaFunk (~TOronto@24.114.36.180) |
| 09:38.25 | *** join/#debian adc (~adc@gateway/tor-sasl/adc) |
| 09:39.19 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:40.02 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 09:40.07 | *** join/#debian useall (~lb@2001:0:53aa:64c:2051:2e3f:4f3c:3a36) |
| 09:40.39 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 09:40.44 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:40.49 | *** join/#debian Sevet_ (~steveayre@2.217.197.202) |
| 09:41.28 | maxyz | GabrieleV: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubTransition |
| 09:42.04 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:42.27 | GabrieleV | maxyz, let's try with GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep |
| 09:42.35 | *** join/#debian spacedust (~info@unaffiliated/cosmicblue) |
| 09:42.36 | spacedust | hi |
| 09:42.54 | spacedust | i am reading here https://wiki.debian.org/wl that bcm4312 is supported alternatively by the b43 driver |
| 09:42.57 | spacedust | could someone tell me how ? |
| 09:43.15 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:43.36 | *** join/#debian ZetaNeta (~LoCoZeNoz@unaffiliated/zetaneta) |
| 09:43.45 | spacedust | with wl ? |
| 09:44.05 | *** join/#debian Buumi (~Jori@dsl-vsabrasgw1-50df29-6.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 09:44.29 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:44.33 | *** join/#debian g0bl1n (~prokter@a213-22-26-212.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 09:45.43 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:46.10 | tremon | spacedust: have you clicked the link in that sentence? |
| 09:46.28 | *** join/#debian Arsenik (~Cyanure@81-64-170-44.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 09:46.36 | spacedust | tremon: no |
| 09:46.47 | spacedust | tremon: which link ? there are many |
| 09:47.06 | spacedust | b43 link ? |
| 09:47.07 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:47.09 | tremon | there is only one link in the sentence "the BCM4321 and BCM4322 chips are alternatively supported by the b43 driver" |
| 09:47.34 | spacedust | that link takes me to https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx |
| 09:47.39 | *** join/#debian sunson (~Sunson@210-210-41-202.lan.sify.net) |
| 09:47.56 | spacedust | For devices with a BCM4312 LP-PHY chip (PCI ID 14E4:4315), install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer: |
| 09:47.57 | tremon | that page says how to install the b43 link |
| 09:48.02 | sunson | what causes the "Size mismatch" error while doing apt-get install for a (privately maintained) package? |
| 09:48.14 | tremon | err, b43 driver |
| 09:48.25 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:48.47 | spacedust | tremon: my pci id is different |
| 09:49.17 | jelly | sunson: forgot to update Packages file? |
| 09:49.23 | spacedust | tremon: according to : http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 14e4:4365 is not supported by b43 |
| 09:49.26 | spacedust | just wl |
| 09:49.43 | *** join/#debian kode101 (~kode101@176.61.33.169) |
| 09:49.51 | tremon | ah, well if your pci id isn't listed in http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices I'm afraid you won't get very far |
| 09:49.55 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:50.20 | spacedust | tremon: so i should stick to wl ? that is broadcom-st a? |
| 09:50.33 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-92-222-96.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 09:50.47 | GabrieleV | maxyz, Nothing to do. It's definitively an rc scripts that changes the video mode :-( |
| 09:51.04 | tremon | I guess. I don't use broadcom chipsets, probably yes |
| 09:51.09 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 09:51.11 | *** join/#debian Lady_Aleena (~Lady-Alee@c-76-106-30-106.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 09:51.11 | *** join/#debian Lady_Aleena (~Lady-Alee@unaffiliated/lady-aleena) |
| 09:51.36 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:52.16 | tremon | spacedust: try #bcm-users, it's mentioned on that kernel b43 page |
| 09:52.29 | mactheknife7 | anyone? |
| 09:52.36 | spacedust | tremon: thanks |
| 09:52.54 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:53.26 | *** join/#debian doebi (~doebi@doebi.at) |
| 09:53.30 | *** join/#debian NealJ (~Neal@82-170-253-169.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 09:53.38 | sunson | jelly: no. have apt-get updated. have regenerated the Packages.gz on the repository |
| 09:53.41 | doebi | how can i run mtr without gui? |
| 09:53.56 | *** join/#debian destrudo (~destrudo@tomba.sonic.net) |
| 09:54.10 | tremon | mactheknife7: http://home.gna.org/subtitleeditor/ perhaps? Don't know if it supports avi |
| 09:54.23 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:54.43 | *** join/#debian brontosaurusrex (~b@unaffiliated/brontosaurusrex) |
| 09:54.49 | *** join/#debian f10 (~f10@188-192-183-84-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 09:55.32 | GabrieleV | maxyz, Added "nomodeset" to kernel parameters. It works. |
| 09:55.39 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:56.53 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1734.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 09:56.59 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:57.13 | brontosaurusrex | how would i run net apps in wine? It says I should install mono for windows, lol |
| 09:58.15 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:58.27 | mactheknife7 | tremon: thanks, but too complicated, looking for a more simpler tool |
| 09:59.37 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1428] by debhelper |
| 10:00.31 | maxyz | GabrieleV: Oh, its the kms support, unless you are not going to use a graphic mode you want kms. |
| 10:01.08 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:01.11 | *** join/#debian aleixdorca (~Adium@194.158.78.231) |
| 10:01.28 | *** join/#debian Chat6014 (~Chat6014@69.41.182.138) |
| 10:01.28 | Chat6014 | H |
| 10:01.30 | *** join/#debian Havis_ (~Havis@adsl-dyn30.78-98-9.t-com.sk) |
| 10:01.32 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 10:01.44 | *** join/#debian timmmaaaayyy (~timmmaaaa@207.224.126.188) |
| 10:01.48 | *** part/#debian aleixdorca (~Adium@194.158.78.231) |
| 10:02.06 | *** join/#debian Cylta (~user@unaffiliated/cylta) |
| 10:03.02 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:03.06 | *** join/#debian Walzmyn (~quassel@h135.14.186.173.ip.windstream.net) |
| 10:03.15 | *** join/#debian lovely (~lovely@108-248-34-209.lightspeed.nsvltn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 10:03.25 | Cylta | Hi. I've wrote armhf image on microSD card, but system can't boot it' other people said about u-boot. could somebody explain a bit, what should I add to pure armhf image on my microSD card to be able to boot it on my dev board? |
| 10:03.44 | *** join/#debian bobbyd3 (~viktor@209.197.20.206) |
| 10:03.54 | *** join/#debian Venomen (~Venomen@static.49.243.63.178.clients.your-server.de) |
| 10:03.59 | *** join/#debian n00b_dust (9024fe90@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.144.36.254.144) |
| 10:04.14 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:04.28 | *** join/#debian azcodex (~azcodex_@173.red-80-26-174.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net) |
| 10:04.48 | lovely | what are some alternatives for minidlna and ushare |
| 10:04.59 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 10:05.21 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:05.53 | *** join/#debian Axlin (~david@252.142-205-66.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 10:06.03 | *** join/#debian kottlett (~quassel@dslb-088-073-084-081.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 10:06.04 | *** join/#debian MrGeneral (~MrGeneral@2001:8a0:c33f:5600:75c3:eaf0:621c:8412) |
| 10:06.37 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:08.07 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:09.01 | GabrieleV | maxyz, I want a bad old text console. There is an old CRT VGA monitor attached. I think it's a 50Hz refresh rate one ... =:] |
| 10:09.05 | *** join/#debian pkv (~pkv@217.19.56.132) |
| 10:09.07 | *** join/#debian wm4 (~wm4@94.242.209.206) |
| 10:09.20 | wm4 | where do I get nvidia drivers for a non-ancient linux kernel? |
| 10:09.25 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:09.27 | wm4 | like 3.10 or 3.11 |
| 10:09.39 | tremon | wm4: ask nvidia? |
| 10:09.53 | *** join/#debian wchance (~chatzilla@c-98-211-137-224.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 10:09.56 | *** join/#debian bjelleklang_away (~chris@stdavid.bouvet.no) |
| 10:10.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1438] by debhelper |
| 10:10.13 | *** join/#debian kresp0 (~kresp0@109.Red-79-144-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:10.52 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:12.01 | *** join/#debian phatypus (~phatypus@gateway/tor-sasl/phatypus) |
| 10:12.33 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:12.35 | Stygia | Hey, anyone here have any idea where I can find a mirror of the packages in testing or unstable? Every mirror I can find doesn't seem to mention versions at all, and sort of makes me fear it's only for stable. |
| 10:13.45 | *** part/#debian scottj (~scott@206.212.250.58) |
| 10:13.59 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:14.30 | babilen | Stygia: Every mirror should work - I'd recommend to simply use a metamirror such as http.debian.net which picks the "best" actual mirror for you automagically. |
| 10:14.44 | *** join/#debian Arsenik (~Cyanure@81-64-170-44.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 10:14.58 | tremon | Stygia: also, ran apt-get update recently? |
| 10:15.03 | Stygia | babilen, Ah, hmm. So could I assume that the mirrors host versions of packages not dividide by release? |
| 10:15.20 | Stygia | tremon, It's not for my debian system. :) I Just need the ca-certificates package for my embedded system. |
| 10:15.35 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:15.53 | tremon | then just use packages.debian.org, lots of mirrors to choose from |
| 10:16.13 | lovely | what are some alternatives for minidlna and ushare |
| 10:16.36 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@233.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 10:16.39 | phatypus | hello. can someone help me improve a process i have? basically i need to cat the contents of a file, and each line in that file needs to be included as an argument in a subsequent command. here is some more info: http://paste.debian.net/39415/ |
| 10:16.39 | babilen | Stygia: yeah, that is the case. |
| 10:16.44 | wchance | GM, anyone know the steps to setup GMT/UTC as local time? |
| 10:16.57 | *** join/#debian Malsasa_ (~quassel@114.79.63.207) |
| 10:17.04 | *** join/#debian g105b (~g105b@88-96-242-110.dsl.zen.co.uk) |
| 10:17.06 | babilen | Stygia: All our primary mirrors carry all architectures and releases. |
| 10:17.34 | g105b | I've just logged into my server to `tail -f` the auth.log, but I can't leave tail using ctrl+c combination - please can someone help? |
| 10:17.35 | tremon | lovely: gmediaserver, mediatomb. google dlna server |
| 10:17.36 | *** join/#debian bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@67.Red-193-153-227.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:17.38 | Stygia | babilen, Alright, fantastic. Thanks. |
| 10:17.38 | *** part/#debian user_guy (5fd39598@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.211.149.152) |
| 10:17.49 | Stygia | g105b, ctrl+z and pkill it? |
| 10:18.00 | lovely | tremon thank you |
| 10:18.56 | *** join/#debian goodboy (~user@120.234.133.100) |
| 10:19.36 | g105b | Stygia: it won't die :/ |
| 10:20.03 | Stygia | g105b, pkill -9 or killall -9 |
| 10:20.18 | Stygia | g105b, Don't make too much of a habit of killall, btw, it's dangerous as hell on solaris |
| 10:20.27 | *** join/#debian user_guy (5fd39598@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.211.149.152) |
| 10:20.28 | babilen | heh, indeed |
| 10:20.31 | *** join/#debian felco_ (~felco@177.33.25.120) |
| 10:20.32 | lovely | i cant get minidlna to serve files from my external hardrive |
| 10:20.32 | lovely | i get a permission denied error |
| 10:20.50 | g105b | pidof tail . 3137 . pkill -9 3137 Stygia is this correct usage? |
| 10:20.52 | *** join/#debian jcbbjoe (~jcbjoe@c-50-173-42-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:20.59 | *** join/#debian felco__ (~felco@177.33.25.120) |
| 10:21.10 | maxyz | g105b: If a process is stoped it can't be killed, |
| 10:21.11 | tremon | g105b: either use pkill tail or kill 3137 |
| 10:21.21 | maxyz | g105b: Send the process a -CONT |
| 10:21.28 | maxyz | or bg |
| 10:21.29 | bhuddah | just use bg? |
| 10:22.25 | *** join/#debian Soru_ (~quassel@82.198.113.42) |
| 10:22.47 | *** join/#debian uuni (~Jellyfish@c-69-136-41-212.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 10:23.44 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:24.06 | *** join/#debian iqualfragile (~iqualfrag@unaffiliated/iqualfragile) |
| 10:24.12 | *** join/#debian Quacero (~quacero@p54B4B288.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:24.29 | *** join/#debian zmode (~zmode@unaffiliated/zmode) |
| 10:26.53 | iarinov | which command-line application can show me ldap tree? |
| 10:28.00 | *** join/#debian beboj (~beboj@de3x.mullvad.net) |
| 10:28.45 | *** join/#debian hyppias (hyppias@53558706.cm-6-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 10:29.53 | *** join/#debian sunson (~Sunson@210-210-41-202.lan.sify.net) |
| 10:31.05 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 10:31.14 | tremon | ldapsearch will give you the contents of the tree, but not in a treelike form |
| 10:36.37 | wm4 | well, looks like the newest debian experimental nvidia drivers actually work with newer linux |
| 10:37.02 | *** join/#debian freedomrun (~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun) |
| 10:37.05 | wm4 | the non-nvidia (i.e. nouveau) vdpau driver is still missing though |
| 10:38.17 | *** join/#debian grim4593 (~grim4593@76-227-191-23.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 10:39.01 | *** join/#debian bjelleklang (~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang) |
| 10:40.19 | *** join/#debian whirli (~whirli@a88-113-159-160.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 10:41.29 | *** join/#debian bullgard4 (~chatzilla@dslb-188-102-042-049.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 10:41.32 | *** join/#debian g105b (~g105b@88-96-242-110.dsl.zen.co.uk) |
| 10:41.56 | g105b | it seems that ctrl+c isn't working to stop any process... I'm connecting from a debian machine to a debian machine, can anyone tell me why this could be? |
| 10:42.45 | *** join/#debian Axlin (~Axlin@252.142-205-66.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 10:43.45 | *** join/#debian pat^ (~patrick@2001:6f8:118e:23:f66d:4ff:fe95:fb43) |
| 10:44.18 | *** join/#debian AsumFace (~asumface@31-17-37-41-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 10:44.47 | *** join/#debian iqualfragile (~iqualfrag@unaffiliated/iqualfragile) |
| 10:45.12 | *** join/#debian dantleech (~dantleech@host5-81-124-125.range5-81.btcentralplus.com) |
| 10:45.39 | *** join/#debian hyppias (hyppias@53558706.cm-6-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 10:45.42 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p5DD8E25A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:45.58 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-24-119.tor.primus.ca) |
| 10:46.19 | ChrisH | g105b: because the process it unstoppable in some kernel calls |
| 10:46.57 | *** join/#debian tacos1de (~tacos1de@gateway/tor-sasl/tacos1de) |
| 10:46.58 | *** part/#debian spacedust (~info@unaffiliated/cosmicblue) |
| 10:47.05 | ChrisH | g105b: show us ps -efl | grep PROCESS .. here if its only one line on paste.debian.net if there are more lines |
| 10:47.20 | tremon | g105b: either you have no job control (/dev/pts not mounted?), or you're running a very basic shell |
| 10:47.28 | *** join/#debian grn (~grn@gateway/shell/mydevil.net/x-ityebfztrlswioqi) |
| 10:47.48 | g105b | 0 S web 13197 13147 0 80 0 - 1888 - 11:48 pts/2 00:00:00 grep PROCESS |
| 10:47.55 | *** join/#debian Posterdati (~kvirc@host103-221-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:47.58 | g105b | ChrisH: ^^ |
| 10:48.14 | ChrisH | g105b: you need to replace PROCESS with the one you want to kill |
| 10:48.25 | g105b | hah sorry... newbie :D |
| 10:48.26 | *** join/#debian plot (~plot@gw.vpn.autistici.org) |
| 10:48.32 | Cylta | Could anyone help with u-boot? |
| 10:49.39 | g105b | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/39432/ |
| 10:50.40 | *** join/#debian jduro_ (~jduro@138-38-141-104.eduroam.bath.ac.uk) |
| 10:50.41 | tremon | g105b: the tail processes run as root, so you need root permissions to kill them |
| 10:50.49 | g105b | I am root |
| 10:50.55 | ChrisH | g105b: they should all be killable using: kill 3137 3482 12897 ;try that twice it it does not work use kill -9 3137 3482 12897 |
| 10:51.03 | ChrisH | g105b: the paste shows you are web |
| 10:51.07 | tremon | the grep you're running shows you're running as web |
| 10:51.09 | *** join/#debian a-l-e (~quassel@72-77.195-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 10:51.22 | g105b | ChrisH: oops I did the command in a different ssh terminal |
| 10:51.33 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~smuxi@134.76.38.156) |
| 10:52.20 | *** join/#debian Guest42853 (~jduro@cpc4-bath5-2-0-cust199.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 10:54.34 | *** join/#debian Bigou_De (~Bigou_De@92.106.136.88.rev.sfr.net) |
| 10:54.43 | ChrisH | g105b: before you now kill, please show us ps -elH on paste.debian.net maybe we get an idea why CTRL-C did not work for you. |
| 10:56.08 | *** join/#debian rendar (~rendar@host79-181-dynamic.1-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:57.01 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 10:59.23 | *** join/#debian chlue (~quassel@hnvr-4dbb7356.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 10:59.46 | *** join/#debian Havis (~Havis@adsl-dyn118.91-127-47.t-com.sk) |
| 11:00.08 | *** join/#debian g105b (~g105b@88-96-242-110.dsl.zen.co.uk) |
| 11:00.48 | *** join/#debian Posterdati (~kvirc@host103-221-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 11:00.48 | *** join/#debian Bigou_De (~Bigou_De@92.106.136.88.rev.sfr.net) |
| 11:01.09 | *** join/#debian yells (~yells@chello080109049190.2.14.univie.teleweb.at) |
| 11:01.49 | *** join/#debian Bigou_De (~Bigou_De@92.106.136.88.rev.sfr.net) |
| 11:03.26 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 11:05.25 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:06.30 | tgs3 | scponly was removed from debian 7 ? |
| 11:06.52 | tgs3 | what the flying fuck |
| 11:08.02 | *** join/#debian phy1729_ (~phy1729@unaffiliated/phy1729) |
| 11:08.14 | *** join/#debian SlitazMint (~ivar@177.148.251.39) |
| 11:08.27 | *** join/#debian lek_ (~lek@dhcp-077-248-094-111.chello.nl) |
| 11:08.31 | tremon | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650590 |
| 11:09.33 | tgs3 | facepalms |
| 11:09.51 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 11:09.56 | *** join/#debian Bigou_De (~Bigou_De@92.106.136.88.rev.sfr.net) |
| 11:09.57 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 11:10.18 | tgs3 | does the internal ftp even work with sshfs? |
| 11:11.31 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@89-156-126-249.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 11:11.32 | *** part/#debian CowboyNeal (~pater@unaffiliated/cowboyneal) |
| 11:12.09 | *** join/#debian lduros (~user@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 11:13.57 | *** join/#debian asherawelan (~asherawel@host81-133-58-164.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 11:14.24 | Sevet_ | tgs3: it does, sshfs just uses sftp nothing special |
| 11:15.03 | asherawelan | On my debian machine that i use with gnome, every time i visit 1.1.1.1:80 I'd like it to go to 1.1.1.2:8080 - can a iptables rule do this for me? |
| 11:15.13 | *** join/#debian jjanvier_ (~jjanvier@fb.galilee.fr) |
| 11:15.15 | tgs3 | I think sshfs uses ssh as the name suggests? Doesn't sshfs use speciall commands like write just part of a file, which simple sftp protocol lacks? |
| 11:15.17 | tgs3 | Sevet_: ^ |
| 11:15.29 | bhuddah | asherawelan: why would you want to visit 1.1.1.1? |
| 11:15.40 | tgs3 | asherawelan: yes, that is possible afair. #iptables #networking |
| 11:15.41 | asherawelan | bhuddah: that's just an example ip |
| 11:16.00 | bhuddah | asherawelan: oh, okay. bad example ^^ |
| 11:16.09 | *** join/#debian yells (~yells@chello080109049190.2.14.univie.teleweb.at) |
| 11:16.15 | asherawelan | bhuddah: not really a bad example, just an example |
| 11:17.01 | *** join/#debian gm152 (~ridout@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 11:17.19 | *** join/#debian Axlin (~david@252.142-205-66.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 11:17.37 | bhuddah | asherawelan: check the whois. it's not a very good example. but it was my fault for not realizing it. sorry. |
| 11:18.16 | *** join/#debian jordilopezamat (~jordi@190.244.55.163) |
| 11:18.34 | *** join/#debian bakaneko (~bakaneko_@kuzh.polytechnique.fr) |
| 11:18.39 | asherawelan | bhuddah: not really a bad example, just an example |
| 11:18.56 | *** join/#debian _Paul (~Paul@p5DE8B5B5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:20.09 | *** join/#debian Sparxz__ (~mark@ip-83-147-138-172.dsl.digiweb.ie) |
| 11:20.18 | *** join/#debian imunsie (~imunsie@pa114-73-190-237.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 11:22.08 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 11:22.18 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@p5481C250.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:22.31 | yells | hi there. i have a couple of debian systems running on alix boards (tiny socs). on debian 6, they ran fine and nearly idled. On debian 7, performing the same tasks, their load averages on 1.5 - 1.7. Any hints? |
| 11:22.37 | *** join/#debian Bigou_De (~Bigou_De@92.106.136.88.rev.sfr.net) |
| 11:23.00 | yells | BTZ nearly idled is roughly 0.1 - 0.15 average |
| 11:23.19 | yells | s/BTZ/BTW/ |
| 11:23.29 | *** join/#debian Axlin (~david@252.142-205-66.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 11:23.31 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@193.105.140.131) |
| 11:24.48 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 11:27.10 | *** join/#debian richard_w (~richard@musketeer.wlan.uni-jena.de) |
| 11:28.47 | richard_w | i have a question regarding routing, arp and networking stuff |
| 11:28.50 | wm4 | yells: well, what processes are eating CPU time? |
| 11:29.06 | *** join/#debian cornelinux (~koelbel@2001:4dd0:ff00:8fa7:351f:63d4:4bc4:3a6e) |
| 11:29.32 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 11:29.38 | richard_w | i have 5 computers with public ips but only 1 physical port |
| 11:29.54 | richard_w | i already set up a debian-box with 2 NICs |
| 11:30.03 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 11:30.28 | user_guy | hi, i was changing my debian frame stable to testing (i changed "wheezy" to "testing" in /etc/apt/sources.list), and then ran apt-get upgrade. it had to update 700 programs, but after about 45 minutes it finished downloading them. after it was installing these downloaded programs (about an hour or 45 minutes) later, i got this error: http://pastebin.com/hzwG0QYb it is still stopped there, and hasn't continued in 45 minutes to an |
| 11:30.39 | richard_w | my question is now how i should configure the router to expose the clients on eth1 on the public-network |
| 11:30.50 | richard_w | like a gateway without nat |
| 11:30.51 | user_guy | do i wait, or ctrl-c? if i ctrl-c, will i be in dependency hell? |
| 11:31.26 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@5.159.229.17) |
| 11:33.05 | Sevet_ | tgs3: sftp does support offsets |
| 11:34.41 | *** join/#debian oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) |
| 11:34.43 | *** join/#debian jordilopezamat (~jordi@190.244.55.163) |
| 11:35.12 | oobe | how do I find out what build options where used with a certain package I need to build a new one from source and want it to match the same paths |
| 11:35.25 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@213.108.36.50) |
| 11:35.29 | oobe | you can ask why but that is not part of the solution im afraid |
| 11:36.13 | yells | wm4: top shows sshd, openvpn and sh on top, just like on the debian 6 systems |
| 11:37.30 | CissWit | oobe: you can download the package sources and look inside how it's build |
| 11:37.37 | boycottg00gle | !source |
| 11:37.37 | dpkg | As an overview: to work with Debian source packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a location with free space; download the source package with <apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use <dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details, also ask me about <package recompile> <backport> <nmg> <policy> <source package> |
| 11:38.03 | yells | I also found a bug#715269 which might be relevant |
| 11:38.31 | oobe | ah CissWit that is a good idea I have src disabled in my sources.list I will enable them and check it out thanks |
| 11:38.44 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 11:38.49 | oobe | ty boycottg00gle too |
| 11:39.39 | *** join/#debian Posterdati (~kvirc@host103-221-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 11:42.44 | *** join/#debian chattr (~regnad_kc@72.239.113.237) |
| 11:44.13 | *** join/#debian slv (~silvermec@209-6-52-182.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 11:44.52 | *** join/#debian hyppias (hyppias@53558706.cm-6-6c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 11:44.52 | *** join/#debian Christoff522 (~christoff@cpc14-stok15-2-0-cust89.1-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 11:45.08 | *** join/#debian kulk (~kulk@200.68.19.35) |
| 11:47.33 | *** join/#debian imunsie (~imunsie@pa114-73-190-237.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 11:48.53 | *** join/#debian camille02 (~camille02@AAmiens-652-1-33-143.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:49.02 | *** join/#debian michele_n (~michele_n@net-93-148-66-38.cust.dsl.teletu.it) |
| 11:49.14 | *** part/#debian camille02 (~camille02@AAmiens-652-1-33-143.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:49.53 | *** join/#debian Shtl (~shital@103.15.63.110) |
| 11:49.58 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 11:50.06 | *** join/#debian soul (~quassel@82.198.113.42) |
| 11:51.04 | *** join/#debian Sevet (~steveayre@2.217.197.202) |
| 11:52.06 | oobe | is there a way to find out the --configure options used? |
| 11:52.21 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@183.17.164.98) |
| 11:52.59 | Sevet | oobe: apt-get source packagename |
| 11:53.02 | boycottg00gle | oobe: most of the time a look at debian/rules searching for configure should be enough |
| 11:53.15 | Sevet | ^^ |
| 11:53.18 | *** join/#debian MekkaGodzilla (~MekkaGodz@cxr69-3-82-224-150-128.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:53.51 | *** join/#debian dantleech (~dantleech@host5-81-124-125.range5-81.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:53.54 | oobe | awesome thats it thanks |
| 11:54.20 | *** join/#debian kelpie (~username@static-81-219-121-23.devs.futuro.pl) |
| 11:54.21 | Sevet | oobe: why not rebuild the debian packages to suit you rather than just compile from source? it'll then register the package as installed in apt/dpkg |
| 11:54.38 | *** join/#debian lek_ (~lek@dhcp-077-248-094-111.chello.nl) |
| 11:54.38 | *** part/#debian gnude (~senft@business-213-023-035-050.static.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:55.47 | *** join/#debian roestzwiee (~kvirc@HSI-KBW-109-192-235-225.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 11:56.06 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@89-156-126-249.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 11:56.28 | *** join/#debian MrHotsauce (~NeedleInY@c-67-173-96-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 11:56.34 | kelpie | i'm trying to copy boot image to usb stick but gunzip-ing image file takes forever... i waited like 30min and it didn't finished |
| 11:56.35 | *** join/#debian naibed (~naibed@a91-156-194-77.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 11:56.50 | kelpie | finish* |
| 11:57.12 | nevyn | kelpie: umm gunziping? |
| 11:57.17 | naibed | help I installed debian yesterday and sometimes sound works and sometimes not |
| 11:58.00 | *** join/#debian wathek_ (~wathek@183.83.138.58) |
| 11:58.15 | kelpie | nevyn: extracting |
| 11:59.05 | *** join/#debian PiperWL (~QQ@cpc12-cmbg15-2-0-cust41.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 11:59.32 | *** join/#debian MakOke (~Gecko@129.Red-81-35-191.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:00.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1448] by debhelper |
| 12:00.51 | *** join/#debian iPwnd (~ipwn@bl16-110-114.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 12:01.26 | oobe | Sevet, I want to apply one patch is that possible to add a patch and then do it? |
| 12:03.42 | Sevet | yep |
| 12:04.09 | Sevet | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#patches |
| 12:04.45 | Sevet | (the short version is to add the patch file to debian/patches/ and add its filename to debian/patches/series) |
| 12:05.41 | *** join/#debian leitao (~breno@187.106.39.233) |
| 12:06.42 | *** join/#debian _Qman (~Qman@213.177.160.238) |
| 12:06.51 | *** join/#debian deuterium (~deuterium@transit.datenpark.ch) |
| 12:07.03 | Sevet | oobe: you'll want to be careful to avoid updates replacing the package without you expecting it, but installing to the same paths you're going to already have to watch out for that because using the same paths if you install the package (yourself or as a dependancy) it'll overwrite your custom one |
| 12:07.13 | Sevet | there're apt options to help you with that |
| 12:07.28 | deuterium | hia. does anybody know whether 2.6.32-5-openvz-amd64 is particularly bad at multitasking when there's a high disk i/o? |
| 12:07.37 | deuterium | the kernel i mean |
| 12:08.28 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@adsl-108-201-172-37.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 12:08.28 | *** join/#debian jetscreamer (~jetscream@unaffiliated/jetscreamer) |
| 12:08.46 | oobe | yea Sevet I remember doing that in the past by selecting one particular package to not upgrade I dont recall how I did it but I assumed I will have to and planned on googling it once Im done building |
| 12:09.05 | jetscreamer | apt-pinning maybe |
| 12:10.10 | *** join/#debian Werring (~Werring@2a01:238:43d7:c401:bad:cafe:bad:c0de) |
| 12:12.18 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~jan@d51A48B68.access.telenet.be) |
| 12:13.03 | *** join/#debian evelyette (~evelyette@93-103-107-74.dynamic.t-2.net) |
| 12:13.37 | evelyette | hi, I just installed debian 64-bit 7.1 and it's giving me hard time with certificates ... I can't run gem, curl, etc, because there are constant errors with CA's not being veritifed |
| 12:13.44 | *** join/#debian hashashin (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 12:13.46 | evelyette | any idea how to solve that? |
| 12:13.46 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 12:16.39 | jhutchins | evelyette: How did you install? |
| 12:16.58 | evelyette | jhutchins, normally ,through netinstall |
| 12:17.43 | yells | did you check your system time? |
| 12:17.59 | evelyette | this is typical error: |
| 12:18.01 | evelyette | error: server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none while accessing https://github.com/rails/actionpack-xml_parser/info/refs |
| 12:18.15 | evelyette | yeah, system time is screwed up ??? |
| 12:18.16 | evelyette | but why |
| 12:18.33 | yells | do ntp-date debian 8.8.8.8 |
| 12:19.29 | *** join/#debian lek_ (~lek@dhcp-077-248-094-111.chello.nl) |
| 12:19.41 | *** join/#debian HALEB0B (~HALEB0B@unaffiliated/haleb0b) |
| 12:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1441] by debhelper |
| 12:22.52 | evelyette | hey: http://dpaste.com/1378639/ |
| 12:23.49 | jelly | yells: itym "ntpdate-debian", and no parameter |
| 12:24.17 | *** join/#debian MrGeneral (~MrGeneral@bl22-224-84.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 12:24.39 | evelyette | Error resolving 0.debian.pool.ntp.org: No address associated with hostname (-5) |
| 12:24.48 | bnw | hi everyone, How can I tell if my system is testing or sid? I installed using weekly build d-i couple of weeks after 7.1 release. I enabled only testing in source.list, kernel version is 3.10-2, if I'm on sid, it makes me a little bit uneasy. |
| 12:24.55 | *** join/#debian \\Mr_C\\ (mrc@68-186-204-95.dhcp.leds.al.charter.com) |
| 12:24.56 | *** join/#debian Martin89 (~martin89@2001:41d0:1:b6bb::3) |
| 12:25.01 | evelyette | jelly, if I do nslookup of the name, I get the IP |
| 12:25.13 | evelyette | so the domain name CAN be resolved |
| 12:25.46 | tremon | bnw: paste the output of apt-cache policy |
| 12:26.06 | *** join/#debian Screedo (~Screedo@h100n4-ld-c-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 12:26.07 | *** join/#debian ribamar (~ribamar@177.98.48.242) |
| 12:26.12 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 12:26.16 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 12:26.25 | tremon | !tell bnw about paste |
| 12:26.26 | evelyette | http://dpaste.com/1378641/ |
| 12:26.26 | *** join/#debian Unity (~Mitsuki@unaffiliated/unity) |
| 12:27.47 | bnw | !tell bnw about paste |
| 12:28.02 | bnw | just forgot the url. |
| 12:28.11 | tremon | evelyette: although I didn't mean you: mixing experimental with stable is dangerous, as packages in experimental are built against testing, not stable |
| 12:28.23 | tremon | bnw: paste.debian.net |
| 12:28.25 | bnw | sorry, seen it on PM. |
| 12:28.40 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@ool-457f587c.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 12:28.42 | evelyette | tremon, I'm only having experimental for redmine |
| 12:29.44 | evelyette | jelly, how to solve the ntpdate error? |
| 12:30.20 | tremon | evelyette: as long as you know what you're doing... :) |
| 12:30.32 | evelyette | tremon, yup, thanks for the heads up |
| 12:31.29 | bnw | tremon, apt-cache policy output: http://paste.debian.net/39481/ |
| 12:32.31 | *** join/#debian ffio (~fire@unaffiliated/security) |
| 12:32.39 | *** join/#debian DonRichie (~DonRichie@dslb-084-059-152-174.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:32.48 | *** join/#debian Stygia (~gmpsaifi@x1-6-00-21-9b-e8-d0-5a.k663.webspeed.dk) |
| 12:33.25 | evelyette | ah, I just remembered that I should probably open UDP 123 port on FW ... I hope that's it and will work after that |
| 12:33.49 | *** join/#debian Yitro (~Yitro@101.164.245.158) |
| 12:34.04 | tremon | bnw: as you can see from that paste, you have only references to testing there, and no mentions of unstable. You're running testing. However, if you mean to keep running jessie when that gets released as stable, you need to change "testing" into "jessie" in all your sources.list lines |
| 12:35.01 | *** join/#debian azcodex (~azcodex_@173.red-80-26-174.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net) |
| 12:35.13 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@99-75-56-172.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net) |
| 12:35.45 | *** join/#debian Scall (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) |
| 12:36.07 | tremon | (for completeness sake: yes, you also have stable security updates there. That's fine, although they're less useful the further testing diverges from stable) |
| 12:36.58 | jelly | evelyette: looks like a dns issue |
| 12:37.02 | bnw | tremon, thank you. I thought the kernel of testing should not be that late. So I had some doubt. |
| 12:37.47 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 12:37.50 | *** join/#debian gmarselis (~kot@109.171.130.235) |
| 12:38.52 | *** join/#debian akcx (~akcx@2001:470:b7a5:421:224:7eff:fee0:8739) |
| 12:39.14 | wm4 | what exactly creates ~/.xsession-errors? |
| 12:39.27 | wm4 | because I want to stop it from filling this file with megabytes of useless crap |
| 12:39.33 | SirLagz | wm4: X |
| 12:39.49 | SirLagz | maybe you should fix the errors ? |
| 12:39.51 | jhutchins | wm4: Stop running your GUI. |
| 12:39.53 | tremon | wm4: /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 12:39.58 | wm4 | SirLagz: the X server binary itself? definitely not |
| 12:40.14 | jhutchins | wm4: If you already know why did you ask? |
| 12:40.17 | wm4 | tremon: thanks |
| 12:40.25 | wm4 | jhutchins: stop being such a dick, ok? |
| 12:40.44 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 12:40.50 | evelyette | jelly, I enabled * on port 123, but I'm getting this now: 8 Dec 07:51:07 ntpdate[10693]: no server suitable for synchronization found |
| 12:41.05 | wm4 | SirLagz: these "errors" are not really errors, just stuff X client print to stdout or stderr |
| 12:41.38 | wm4 | SirLagz: and many clients print really obnoxiously useless and spammy stuff, e.g.: kate(6876)/Kate (On-The-Fly Spellcheck) KateOnTheFlyChecker::updateInstalledMovingRanges: new range: [ (116, 0) -> (161, 41) ] |
| 12:41.56 | wm4 | kate probably does that every time you edit something... |
| 12:42.29 | wm4 | yep, it does |
| 12:42.40 | wm4 | and stuff like kate(6876)/kate-filetree KateFileTreeModel::documentModifiedChanged: BEGIN! |
| 12:42.42 | wm4 | sighs |
| 12:42.53 | tremon | evelyette: servers are only suitable if they're within 5 minutes of your current time. You need to run ntpd -gq manually, then start ntpd again. Or run the ntpdate-debian mentioned earlier, I don't know what it does |
| 12:43.23 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@193.105.140.131) |
| 12:44.34 | tremon | oh, it's 1000 seconds, not 5 minutes according to the man page |
| 12:45.18 | jelly | evelyette: set an approximate time manually first |
| 12:45.40 | jelly | date -s '2013-09-13 14:46' |
| 12:45.52 | *** join/#debian Bry8Star (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) |
| 12:46.31 | jelly | evelyette: assuming your machine is in CEST timezone like your IP suggests |
| 12:46.46 | jhutchins | wm4: Here's why it's happening: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gdm-list/2007-November/msg00017.html |
| 12:47.07 | *** join/#debian JotaK (~cZ@unaffiliated/jotak) |
| 12:48.46 | *** join/#debian Boltersdriveer (~Bolts@103.247.135.24) |
| 12:49.20 | *** join/#debian jargon (~jargon@unaffiliated/jargon-) |
| 12:49.38 | wm4 | jhutchins: I'm not using gdm |
| 12:49.53 | wm4 | just xdm |
| 12:51.47 | *** join/#debian hays (~quassel@unaffiliated/hays) |
| 12:51.55 | *** join/#debian bhuddah (~bhuddah@212.202.252.228) |
| 12:53.28 | *** join/#debian yells (~yells@chello080109049190.2.14.univie.teleweb.at) |
| 12:54.36 | *** join/#debian magnet (~magnet@silmaril.mithrandir.net) |
| 12:54.53 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~daniel@HSI-KBW-091-089-154-223.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 12:55.08 | *** join/#debian pythonsnake (~pythonsna@fedora/pythonsnake) |
| 12:55.27 | *** join/#debian goldkatze (~nobody@unaffiliated/goldkatze) |
| 12:57.09 | *** join/#debian yooduknam (~yoo200181@121.129.13.105) |
| 12:58.02 | *** join/#debian Technoman (~Technoman@HSI-KBW-046-005-169-159.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 12:58.09 | Technoman | Prepare for the Worst: a real Prophet saw the endtimes in multiple Visions: The Pre-Sign before the wordwide Stock Market Collaps are "S&P downgrades Malaysia", when you see this in your TV , then buy food supplies: Watch my genuine Visions here : http://worldwen.vs120101.hl-users.com/?p=4674 |
| 12:58.20 | *** part/#debian Technoman (~Technoman@HSI-KBW-046-005-169-159.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 12:58.24 | FilipeMaia | How can I make root able to read/write to nfs4 mounted directories? |
| 12:58.29 | FilipeMaia | I'm getting the following error: nss_getpwnam: name '0' does not map into domain 'xxx' |
| 12:59.49 | ChrisH | FilipeMaia: I do not use NFS V4 at all. |
| 13:00.00 | FilipeMaia | I need extended attributes |
| 13:00.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1431] by debhelper |
| 13:00.20 | *** join/#debian halt (~Thunderbi@gw.mtdm.tv) |
| 13:00.25 | *** join/#debian MekkaGodzilla (~MekkaGodz@cxr69-3-82-224-150-128.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:00.30 | FilipeMaia | All the users are mapping fine, but somehow root is not mapping |
| 13:01.01 | *** join/#debian yooduknam (~yoo200181@121.129.13.105) |
| 13:01.20 | *** join/#debian MekkaGodzilla (~MekkaGodz@cxr69-3-82-224-150-128.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 13:01.27 | halt | hi guys, on my new debian host i tryed to enable one apache module and look like it,s not exist, is it part of an extra package or what's the issue ? sudo a2enmod expires |
| 13:01.28 | halt | ERROR: Module expires does not exist! |
| 13:01.56 | *** join/#debian Bronze (~Mark@unaffiliated/bronze) |
| 13:03.10 | *** join/#debian Mangolian (~Wewt|Mang@77.120.136.121) |
| 13:03.57 | *** join/#debian nagarkot (~nagarkot_@74.46.100.220.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 13:04.30 | ChrisH | FilipeMaia: Is root mapping defined for NFS V4 at all? |
| 13:04.43 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: i don't know |
| 13:04.51 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: i would like it to be |
| 13:05.03 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: otherwise no_root_squashing doesn't make much sense |
| 13:07.05 | *** join/#debian iPwnd (~ipwn@xxxcnn6216.hospedagemdesites.ws) |
| 13:07.08 | *** join/#debian carandraug (~carandrau@octave/developer/carandraug) |
| 13:07.16 | ChrisH | FilipeMaia: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=823848 |
| 13:07.39 | *** join/#debian michaelni (~michael@194-118-169-22.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 13:10.16 | *** join/#debian asmodlol (~asmodlol@ip-230.net-81-220-214.henin.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 13:10.44 | *** join/#debian DOUGHTY (admin@doughty.pw) |
| 13:10.45 | *** join/#debian Soru (~quassel@82.198.113.42) |
| 13:11.56 | *** join/#debian DHost (~Pcy@sd.yost.fr) |
| 13:11.57 | *** join/#debian leitao (~breno@143.106.167.234) |
| 13:12.25 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~daniel@HSI-KBW-091-089-154-223.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 13:12.45 | crane | has someone an idea for an lightweight downloadmanager which support well known one-click-hosters? i know jdownloader but maybe there is some cooler stuff which can be controlled by shell without an gui? |
| 13:14.21 | rozie | crane: jdownloader has cli IIRC. there was tucan too |
| 13:14.38 | *** join/#debian HexaByte (~HexaByte@cns.isg.si) |
| 13:14.54 | *** join/#debian lek_ (~lek@dhcp-077-248-094-111.chello.nl) |
| 13:14.59 | crane | rozie, but it needs java *eek* |
| 13:15.01 | halt | I can't even see an option to enable or install it, anyone using this module on debian apache ? http://paste.debian.net/39506/ I'm up for the mod_expires |
| 13:15.05 | zmode | unfortunately last time i tried tucan it had poor support or no support for many websites |
| 13:15.54 | *** join/#debian bytecounter (~bytecount@dyndsl-085-016-026-205.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 13:15.59 | zmode | i don't know if jdownloader finally implemented cli support, but you still need some method of displaying graphics and interactivity for captchas |
| 13:16.02 | rozie | zmode: true that |
| 13:16.23 | crane | rozie, nice, the webpage for tucan shows a google safe browse warning ^^ |
| 13:16.37 | drhouse123 | hi, why kdm looks ugly after exiting from session ? it is happened in wheezy |
| 13:17.10 | *** join/#debian dijenerate (~dijenerat@65.48.221.118) |
| 13:17.24 | *** join/#debian nvteighen (~nvteighen@89.131.112.116) |
| 13:17.31 | *** join/#debian rrehbein (~rrehbein@12.148.198.170) |
| 13:17.49 | *** join/#debian uvogin (~daInsider@176.102.64.72) |
| 13:17.58 | *** join/#debian renebarbosa (~rene@unaffiliated/renebarbosa) |
| 13:18.27 | *** join/#debian mavzuna (~mavzuna@unaffiliated/mavzuna) |
| 13:18.36 | *** join/#debian yells (~yells@chello080109049190.2.14.univie.teleweb.at) |
| 13:20.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1446] by debhelper |
| 13:20.16 | SirLagz | i have a ntp server, and a ntp client. NTP server time is set to WST (+8), ntp client timezone is set to WST as well...but the ntp client has +8 on the current time |
| 13:20.17 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@2620:f3:8000:5003::e789) |
| 13:20.20 | SirLagz | why is that ? |
| 13:20.24 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.226.49) |
| 13:22.21 | *** join/#debian Resilience (fran@85.251.4.66.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 13:22.33 | *** join/#debian guampa (~guampa@gateway/tor-sasl/guampa) |
| 13:22.35 | ChrisH | NTP does not care about Timezones |
| 13:23.41 | jelly | SirLagz: also, please try not to ask the same question in multiple channels at the same time |
| 13:23.58 | SirLagz | jelly: oops. sorry |
| 13:24.05 | SirLagz | forgot i asked lol... |
| 13:24.29 | *** join/#debian Amanas (~Amanas@70.44.139.29.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) |
| 13:25.08 | *** join/#debian Benkinooby (~benedict@unaffiliated/benkinooby) |
| 13:26.06 | Benkinooby | hi, is console kit still in testing? when will be moved to systemd? http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit/ |
| 13:26.15 | Benkinooby | ConsoleKit is currently not actively maintained. The focus has shifted to the built-in seat/user/session management of Software/systemd called systemd-loginctl |
| 13:26.46 | *** join/#debian virusuy (~virusuy@unaffiliated/virusuy) |
| 13:26.53 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@14.207.185.205) |
| 13:27.32 | drhouse123 | Benkinooby: ask it in #debian-next on oftc.net |
| 13:27.47 | Benkinooby | drhouse123: thx |
| 13:28.29 | jhutchins | SirLagz: One of your systems is set to use local time for the system clock. |
| 13:28.35 | *** join/#debian valgrind (~valgrind@202.Red-83-43-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:29.09 | *** join/#debian dantleech (~dantleech@host5-81-124-125.range5-81.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:29.19 | SirLagz | jhutchins: thanks, I figured out what I did wrong though |
| 13:31.06 | *** join/#debian P0bailey (~P0bailey@unaffiliated/p0bailey) |
| 13:31.37 | *** part/#debian wm4 (~wm4@94.242.209.206) |
| 13:32.56 | *** join/#debian tormen_ (~me@no-panic.eu) |
| 13:33.12 | *** join/#debian Shtl (~shital@103.15.63.110) |
| 13:34.01 | jhutchins | SirLagz: Which was? |
| 13:34.39 | SirLagz | ntpd had been killed lol |
| 13:35.30 | *** join/#debian mastro (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 13:36.56 | *** join/#debian ksdncv (~ksdncv@unaffiliated/ksdncv) |
| 13:37.26 | *** join/#debian qwert2000 (~qwert2000@180.126.235.155) |
| 13:41.19 | *** join/#debian __jm (~john@env-auth-ev2-129-97-22-94.dynamic.uwaterloo.ca) |
| 13:42.18 | *** join/#debian n00b_dust (9024fe90@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.144.36.254.144) |
| 13:42.47 | *** join/#debian contempt (contempt@unaffiliated/contempt) |
| 13:44.25 | *** join/#debian quiritius (~quiritius@109.86.40.114) |
| 13:44.28 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 13:45.33 | *** join/#debian dantleech (~dantleech@host5-81-124-125.range5-81.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:45.50 | *** join/#debian lord4163 (~lord4163@81-232-61-81-no226.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 13:46.00 | *** join/#debian raSter^ (raster@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-joeihppslqaiazbl) |
| 13:46.18 | *** join/#debian darsie (~darsie@91-119-214-109.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 13:46.23 | *** join/#debian moza (~moza@h79-138-102-26.dynamic.se.alltele.net) |
| 13:47.00 | *** join/#debian calisto (~calisto@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 13:48.09 | *** join/#debian usr (~Thunderbi@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 13:48.25 | *** join/#debian bst_ (~bst@net38-0-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 13:48.32 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 13:50.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1452] by debhelper |
| 13:50.09 | *** join/#debian siso (~siso@94.236.7.190) |
| 13:50.19 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 13:51.25 | *** join/#debian mike_af (~mike_af@50-77-49-46-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 13:53.26 | *** join/#debian jimcooncat (~jim@68-68-224-42.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net) |
| 13:54.20 | *** join/#debian Frank81 (~Thunderbi@91-65-140-111-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 13:54.28 | *** join/#debian yareckon (~yareckon@p5DDB913E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:54.48 | *** join/#debian juser (~juser@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 13:54.48 | yareckon | hi guys, have a non debian, but suitably geeky question |
| 13:54.55 | *** join/#debian agsrv (~guest@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 13:54.58 | *** join/#debian Buumi (~Jori@dsl-vsabrasgw1-50df29-6.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 13:55.06 | *** join/#debian Screedo (~Screedo@h100n4-ld-c-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 13:55.17 | yareckon | does anyone know how SAN additional domains on a UC SSL certificate are verified? |
| 13:55.42 | *** join/#debian Guest74915 (~agent@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 13:56.02 | yareckon | I assume that if I am getting www.mydomain.com and add www.google.com as an alternative SAN name, that some system will catch this as being a no-no |
| 13:56.17 | yareckon | does one normally get verification emails for all SAN domains? |
| 13:56.59 | yareckon | I have a client that is an international NGO that is trying to decide if a UC is worth the hassle |
| 13:57.10 | ChrisH | yareckon: what is a SAN domain. I know SAN as Storage Area Network |
| 13:57.30 | yareckon | a big factor is whether each affiliate needs to have competent IT to watch hostmaster@myotherdomain.com |
| 13:57.33 | boycottg00gle | maybe subject alternate name or something like that |
| 13:57.49 | yareckon | Subject Alternative Names indeed |
| 13:57.54 | *** join/#debian dash_ (~d45h@unaffiliated/dash-/x-7576607) |
| 13:58.10 | yareckon | basically, a secondary domain that is valid on a multi domain certificate |
| 13:58.33 | yareckon | (It's a way around the single IP single SSL cert limitation) |
| 13:58.50 | *** join/#debian QwertyDragon (~chatzilla@pool-173-76-93-52.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 13:59.11 | boycottg00gle | single dns entry you mean |
| 13:59.15 | yareckon | so you can have one IP address but www.mydomain.com and www.otherdomain.net both without ssl warnings |
| 13:59.27 | yareckon | no single ip, right? |
| 13:59.55 | yareckon | in standard http at least, you get the cert before the server asks what website you want to visit |
| 14:00.00 | *** join/#debian acarrico (~acarrico@209.99.209.15) |
| 14:00.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1459] by debhelper |
| 14:00.05 | *** join/#debian optimusprimem (~globo_com@177.53.180.133) |
| 14:00.05 | *** join/#debian optimusprimem (~globo_com@unaffiliated/optimusprimem) |
| 14:00.20 | boycottg00gle | the cert doesn't mention the ip |
| 14:00.32 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 14:00.37 | yareckon | you are talking about ordering a cert |
| 14:00.42 | yareckon | I am talking about serving one |
| 14:00.58 | yareckon | but yes, it's also a workaround for one dns name -> one cert |
| 14:01.10 | *** join/#debian Malsasa (~quassel@114.79.62.207) |
| 14:01.26 | boycottg00gle | look you can have one dns entry pointing to many ips all using the same cert |
| 14:01.40 | yareckon | that's true |
| 14:02.06 | yareckon | but not the other way round |
| 14:02.26 | *** join/#debian TuxSY (~me@dyndsl-091-096-129-014.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 14:02.28 | yareckon | so you're right, its not 1 -> 1 |
| 14:02.54 | boycottg00gle | ok now what is UC ? |
| 14:03.09 | yareckon | you get one main domain name and many SANs |
| 14:03.09 | *** join/#debian iqualfragile (~iqualfrag@unaffiliated/iqualfragile) |
| 14:03.22 | yareckon | browsers accept all names on the cert as secured |
| 14:03.36 | yareckon | but the branding in the address bar is always the main domain |
| 14:04.10 | yareckon | you only need one IP address, because it's only one cert |
| 14:04.12 | *** join/#debian wathek (~wathek@183.83.138.58) |
| 14:04.28 | yareckon | and the cert can be negotiated before the browser asks for a specific website |
| 14:04.57 | yareckon | (the other way to solve this problem is SNI which allows the browser to indicate a hostname during the ssl handshake) |
| 14:05.12 | yareckon | but that's not supported on older browsers or on all webservers |
| 14:05.31 | yareckon | in that case, you would be able to use multiple certs per IP |
| 14:05.48 | yareckon | but as I said, it's not 100% supported client/server |
| 14:05.49 | *** join/#debian cantoma (~jduro@138-38-141-104.eduroam.bath.ac.uk) |
| 14:06.18 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@192.228.104.43) |
| 14:08.26 | boycottg00gle | never heard about it |
| 14:08.32 | boycottg00gle | only know wildcard certs |
| 14:08.45 | boycottg00gle | in the end those certs are wasted money anyway |
| 14:08.57 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 14:09.01 | *** join/#debian babilen (~babilen@unaffiliated/babilen) |
| 14:09.11 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~smuxi@134.76.38.156) |
| 14:09.22 | FilipeMaia | Is it possible to increase the number of available inodes in an existing ext4 partition? |
| 14:09.56 | *** join/#debian oliveiraev (~Evandro@177.141.171.83) |
| 14:10.08 | babilen | no |
| 14:10.38 | ChrisH | wildcard certs only allow one level beeing wild :). *.domain.com convers www.domain.com and ftp.domain.com but but www.emea.domain.com |
| 14:11.00 | FilipeMaia | babilen: ok, thanks |
| 14:11.22 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-213-33.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 14:11.28 | yareckon | yeah, I don't think you can combine a UC and wildcards unfortunately |
| 14:11.39 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 14:11.41 | babilen | FilipeMaia: You have to backup your data, recreate the filesystem and then copy it back. The number of inodes is determined when the filesystem is created. |
| 14:11.42 | *** join/#debian daveeejr (~quassel@ip-92-73.wireless.oberlin.edu) |
| 14:11.42 | *** join/#debian Jimmymaniac (~jherazob@58.red-80-28-221.adsl.static.ccgg.telefonica.net) |
| 14:12.00 | FilipeMaia | babilen: for ext4. Ok, thanks |
| 14:12.32 | *** join/#debian lek__ (~lek@dhcp-077-248-094-111.chello.nl) |
| 14:13.20 | *** join/#debian wish^ (wish@ti0121a340-dhcp1125.bb.online.no) |
| 14:13.23 | *** join/#debian kermit (~zip55413@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 14:13.30 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 14:14.01 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~djbarney@silentflame/member/grobda24) |
| 14:14.05 | *** join/#debian soomsoom (~doron@bzq-84-110-119-116.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 14:14.05 | *** join/#debian soomsoom (~doron@unaffiliated/soomsoom) |
| 14:14.05 | *** join/#debian lduros (~user@fsf/member/lduros) |
| 14:14.23 | *** join/#debian jono (~crunch@cm-84.210.13.135.getinternet.no) |
| 14:15.25 | *** join/#debian jordanm_ (~jordan@166.90.118.36) |
| 14:15.45 | boycottg00gle | yareckon: this whole UC think looks like some marketing crap from one company? or is there some accepted spec? |
| 14:15.50 | *** join/#debian adam8157 (~adam@unaffiliated/adam8157) |
| 14:15.56 | *** join/#debian yooduknam (~yoo200181@121.129.13.105) |
| 14:16.00 | *** join/#debian jordanm (~jordan@pdpc/supporter/active/jordanm) |
| 14:16.21 | *** join/#debian wish^ (LaVaWishe@ti0121a340-dhcp1125.bb.online.no) |
| 14:16.40 | *** join/#debian MrThePlague (~v4x@unaffiliated/v4x) |
| 14:16.44 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~p3rror@41.249.253.52) |
| 14:16.48 | *** join/#debian wish^ (LaVaWishe@ti0121a340-dhcp1125.bb.online.no) |
| 14:17.32 | *** join/#debian leitao (~breno@143.106.167.234) |
| 14:17.53 | *** join/#debian wish^ (~LaVaWishe@ti0121a340-dhcp1125.bb.online.no) |
| 14:18.27 | *** join/#debian lek_ (~lek@dhcp-077-248-094-111.chello.nl) |
| 14:19.08 | *** join/#debian iPwnd (~ipwn@xxxcnn6216.hospedagemdesites.ws) |
| 14:19.38 | *** join/#debian Olanzapine (suck@c83-191-65-214.cust.tele2.se) |
| 14:20.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1465] by debhelper |
| 14:20.47 | FilipeMaia | Is there any networked filesystem that supports extended attributes? |
| 14:21.22 | ChrisH | FilipeMaia: the stuff you need getfacl for? |
| 14:21.25 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 14:21.46 | FilipeMaia | Not ACLs but general extended attributes |
| 14:22.04 | FilipeMaia | getfattr and setfattr |
| 14:23.08 | *** part/#debian nvteighen (~nvteighen@89.131.112.116) |
| 14:23.27 | *** join/#debian jsec (~jsec@affiliated/jsec) |
| 14:23.37 | *** join/#debian Screedo (~Screedo@h100n4-ld-c-d1.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 14:23.41 | ChrisH | FilipeMaia: I not even have corresponding man-pages on my box |
| 14:23.43 | *** join/#debian wchance_ (~chatzilla@c-98-211-137-224.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 14:23.49 | eb0t | join #cisco |
| 14:24.32 | ChrisH | FilipeMaia: this is different from lsattr I assume. |
| 14:25.05 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: i think it's totally unrelated |
| 14:25.17 | FilipeMaia | ChrisH: you need the 'attr' package to get the programs |
| 14:25.47 | *** join/#debian Mangolian (~Wewt|Mang@77.120.136.121) |
| 14:26.03 | *** join/#debian tormen__ (~me@no-panic.eu) |
| 14:26.04 | ChrisH | FilipeMaia: I assumed as lsattr is ext2/3/x only |
| 14:27.38 | *** join/#debian Amanas (~Amanas@64.119.157.6) |
| 14:27.51 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 14:30.33 | *** join/#debian Azzy (~Maren@76-196-236-118.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:31.35 | *** join/#debian iderik (~idk@h-209-13.a197.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 14:32.31 | *** join/#debian Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@unaffiliated/yukiteru) |
| 14:32.45 | ChrisH | FilipeMaia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_file_attributes The only network Filesystem mentioned seems to be NFS V4. |
| 14:33.06 | FilipeMaia | Which also doesn't actually seem to support it |
| 14:34.37 | ChrisH | I never heard about these extended attributes before. And I keep away from ACLs as I saw often enough it did not work on different paltforms. |
| 14:34.40 | *** join/#debian mastro__ (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 14:36.46 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~smuxi@134.76.38.156) |
| 14:37.06 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@81.144.163.60) |
| 14:37.13 | *** join/#debian addaitech (~lennox@209.114.188.111) |
| 14:37.56 | *** part/#debian spinneret (~spinneret@gateway/tor-sasl/spinneret) |
| 14:38.16 | *** join/#debian iceflatline (~iceflatli@209-23-210-2-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 14:38.37 | *** join/#debian arif-ali (~arif-ali@81.144.163.60) |
| 14:39.25 | maxyz | FilipeMaia: No, extended attribute are ext specific. |
| 14:39.33 | *** join/#debian rbckman (~rob@85-156-174-89.elisa-mobile.fi) |
| 14:39.44 | FilipeMaia | maxyz: they work fine on XFS |
| 14:39.58 | *** join/#debian dmonnereau (~dmonnerea@s15729766.onlinehome-server.info) |
| 14:40.57 | *** part/#debian dmonnereau (~dmonnerea@s15729766.onlinehome-server.info) |
| 14:41.30 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@14.207.185.205) |
| 14:41.37 | *** join/#debian sobkas (~sobkas@193.106.101.71) |
| 14:41.50 | *** part/#debian Jimmymaniac (~jherazob@58.red-80-28-221.adsl.static.ccgg.telefonica.net) |
| 14:42.28 | *** join/#debian vercax (02e3e820@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.227.232.32) |
| 14:42.32 | vercax | hi guys |
| 14:42.44 | maxyz | FilipeMaia: Interesting, a compatibility layer, I'd guess. |
| 14:42.45 | vercax | do you know how can I listen outbound connections? |
| 14:42.59 | jordanm | tcpdump |
| 14:43.10 | *** join/#debian alavios (~alavios@124.Red-83-59-156.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:43.36 | mniip | vercax, depends on the lyer |
| 14:43.37 | FilipeMaia | marienz: accroding to wikipedia ext2, ext3, ext4, JFS, ReiserFS, XFS, Btrfs support extended attributes on linux |
| 14:43.41 | mniip | layer* |
| 14:44.12 | *** join/#debian camille02 (camille02@AAmiens-652-1-33-143.w86-192.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:44.30 | mniip | vercax, if you want to see IP packets - tcpdump. if you want to see text sent over tcp stream - tcpflow |
| 14:44.34 | *** join/#debian Mikrop__ (~mikrop@office.bearstech.com) |
| 14:44.43 | bwayne | how do i enable flash in lynx? |
| 14:44.59 | bwayne | kids |
| 14:45.06 | mniip | xD |
| 14:45.26 | mniip | bwayne, do you have libaa |
| 14:46.34 | vercax | mike_af: thx |
| 14:46.45 | vercax | I have ascii text over a tcp connection |
| 14:46.47 | mike_af | vercax: np :P |
| 14:46.50 | vercax | I just want to see that |
| 14:46.57 | bwayne | mniip: yeah |
| 14:47.09 | *** join/#debian firecode (~irc@unaffiliated/firecode) |
| 14:47.11 | mniip | vercax, tcpflow then |
| 14:47.19 | vercax | perfect |
| 14:47.20 | vercax | tht |
| 14:47.23 | vercax | I m going to try it |
| 14:47.45 | mniip | remember to read the manpage |
| 14:48.14 | *** join/#debian swede73 (~swede73@97-81-131-211.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com) |
| 14:48.17 | vercax | sure |
| 14:48.27 | *** join/#debian tharkun (~0@187.188.94.182) |
| 14:48.33 | *** join/#debian ese (~pal@unaffiliated/ese) |
| 14:48.40 | *** join/#debian x-treme (~x-treme@unaffiliated/x-treme) |
| 14:49.14 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~shiva@gateway/tor-sasl/lordshiva) |
| 14:49.36 | *** join/#debian james41382_ (~james@24.205.204.88) |
| 14:50.06 | vercax | mike_af: what about netcat? is not useful in this case? it's ok for inbound connections.. what about outbound ones? it should be ok for them as well |
| 14:50.41 | *** join/#debian goldkatze (~nobody@unaffiliated/goldkatze) |
| 14:51.08 | mniip | vercax, netcat _creates_ a connection |
| 14:51.22 | mniip | tcpflow, tcpdump, etc, are _sniffing_ |
| 14:51.27 | *** join/#debian daveeejr (~quassel@ip-92-73.wireless.oberlin.edu) |
| 14:51.37 | mniip | i.e reading contents of stream they don't own |
| 14:52.23 | vercax | mike_af: but I used it on another connection already established |
| 14:53.25 | *** join/#debian kode101 (~kode101@176.61.33.169) |
| 14:54.07 | *** join/#debian kode101 (~kode101@176.61.33.169) |
| 14:54.23 | *** join/#debian spacepluk (~spacepluk@ec2-50-19-126-100.compute-1.amazonaws.com) |
| 14:55.47 | *** join/#debian Wewt (~Wewt|Mang@77.120.136.121) |
| 14:55.52 | *** join/#debian Shtl (~shital@103.15.63.110) |
| 14:56.29 | *** join/#debian deximat (~deximat@217.65.198.217) |
| 14:56.49 | *** join/#debian mackwerk (~Mackwerk@83.221.154.225) |
| 14:59.58 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@75-134-81-98.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 15:01.24 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 15:02.25 | *** join/#debian bitwave (~bitwave@97.67.160.82) |
| 15:04.13 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 15:04.55 | *** join/#debian kain88 (~kain88@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de) |
| 15:05.05 | *** join/#debian oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) |
| 15:07.38 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~emonge@200.110.251.210) |
| 15:07.41 | *** part/#debian EstebanMonge (~emonge@200.110.251.210) |
| 15:07.53 | *** join/#debian spacepluk (~spacepluk@ec2-50-19-126-100.compute-1.amazonaws.com) |
| 15:09.37 | *** join/#debian jbraeg (~jbraeg@ec2-174-129-218-228.compute-1.amazonaws.com) |
| 15:09.50 | *** join/#debian colonelpanic (~iceflatli@209-23-210-2-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 15:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1457] by debhelper |
| 15:10.08 | *** part/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@nagarkot.ddns.uark.edu) |
| 15:10.14 | *** join/#debian kmels (~kmels@190.148.103.83) |
| 15:10.40 | *** join/#debian r0tha (~r0tha@2602:304:cda7:e7e0:3d3e:7f6:dcd3:5271) |
| 15:10.43 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 15:11.44 | *** join/#debian grandie (~Grandad@p57ACEAF7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:12.22 | *** join/#debian wathek (~wathek@183.83.138.58) |
| 15:15.10 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@190.210.94.116) |
| 15:15.24 | *** join/#debian hasgarion (~hasgarion@HSI-KBW-046-005-000-093.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 15:15.34 | *** join/#debian mastroWork (~mastro@2-229-44-241.ip195.fastwebnet.it) |
| 15:17.25 | *** join/#debian deception (~user@unaffiliated/deception-/x-5290362) |
| 15:17.41 | vercax | mniip: I have installed tcpflow but it doesn't sniff anything :D |
| 15:18.04 | vercax | tcpflow -i lo and there is nothing.. when instead there's a lot of traffic |
| 15:18.40 | *** join/#debian renebarbosa (~rene@unaffiliated/renebarbosa) |
| 15:19.02 | mniip | vercax, that's why i said to use the manpage |
| 15:19.15 | mniip | oh, and check your pwd |
| 15:19.26 | vercax | I have tried even adding the port |
| 15:19.34 | vercax | yep maybe you're right, there is a specific command |
| 15:19.38 | mniip | you probably want -C |
| 15:19.50 | vercax | uhm |
| 15:20.18 | *** join/#debian Mikrop_ (~mikrop@office.bearstech.com) |
| 15:20.21 | mniip | without it, it creates a file for each localip-localport-remoteip-remoteport detected |
| 15:20.24 | vercax | yep!!! that worked!!!! |
| 15:21.42 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1734.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 15:22.53 | *** join/#debian spacepluk (~spacepluk@ec2-50-19-126-100.compute-1.amazonaws.com) |
| 15:24.24 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 15:25.01 | *** part/#debian halt (~Thunderbi@gw.mtdm.tv) |
| 15:25.17 | *** join/#debian salvin (~salvin@unaffiliated/salvin) |
| 15:27.46 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (~yogurt2un@host146.181-14-255.telecom.net.ar) |
| 15:30.46 | *** join/#debian nonconvergent (~neuromanc@c-24-30-40-161.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 15:31.01 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 15:31.07 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-213-33.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 15:31.35 | *** join/#debian pederindi (~music@200.239.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 15:33.03 | *** join/#debian Aleks3Y (~Aleks3Y@68.67.52.186) |
| 15:34.00 | *** join/#debian zerick (~eocrospom@190.187.21.53) |
| 15:34.31 | *** join/#debian mick0 (~user@unaffiliated/mick0) |
| 15:36.00 | *** join/#debian tacos1de (~tacos1de@gateway/tor-sasl/tacos1de) |
| 15:37.23 | *** join/#debian daswitch (~daswitch@TOROON63-1279387558.sdsl.bell.ca) |
| 15:38.35 | *** join/#debian iscream_ (54ec3f77@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.236.63.119) |
| 15:40.55 | *** join/#debian jordilopezamat (~jordi@190.244.55.163) |
| 15:41.10 | *** join/#debian asherawelan (~asherawel@81.130.86.116) |
| 15:41.41 | asherawelan | Does any one know whey even though I have a pressed file with the mirror infer in, the debian installation still asks me about mirrors? http://d.pr/n/pgSJ |
| 15:41.55 | *** join/#debian GSport (~root@bl21-48-242.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 15:42.27 | *** join/#debian mick0 (~user@unaffiliated/mick0) |
| 15:42.41 | *** join/#debian joncrunchbang (~crunch@cm-84.210.13.135.getinternet.no) |
| 15:44.41 | *** join/#debian joncrunchbang (~crunch@cm-84.210.13.135.getinternet.no) |
| 15:44.49 | *** join/#debian Develiant (~dtr@ip-213-220-253-66.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 15:44.52 | *** join/#debian tacos1de (~tacos1de@gateway/tor-sasl/tacos1de) |
| 15:45.39 | *** join/#debian joncrunchbang (~crunch@cm-84.210.13.135.getinternet.no) |
| 15:45.41 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 15:45.45 | *** join/#debian qrz7 (~pku@ppp-93-104-144-220.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 15:46.18 | yareckon | boycottg00gle, there appears to be an industry around it, lots of people offer them. |
| 15:46.36 | yareckon | see you folks, gotta run |
| 15:47.02 | *** join/#debian zykotick9 (~ZykoticK9@unaffiliated/zykotick9) |
| 15:49.04 | tremon | asherawelan: try mirror/protocol select http, it's not a free-form input variable. Also, try adding mirror/http/countries select UK |
| 15:49.21 | *** join/#debian deter (~deter@ip-213-220-253-66.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 15:49.46 | tremon | not sure which one is actually used |
| 15:50.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1449] by debhelper |
| 15:50.10 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 15:50.34 | *** join/#debian Hasow (c7be2ed1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.199.190.46.209) |
| 15:51.04 | *** join/#debian dzragon (~unpas@95.109.55.124) |
| 15:52.26 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@icm-39-59.icm.uu.se) |
| 15:54.35 | *** join/#debian safejav (~safejav@200.127.117.240) |
| 15:55.41 | *** join/#debian Vicissitude (~Vicissitu@pdpc/supporter/active/vicissitude) |
| 15:55.43 | *** join/#debian Buumi (~Jori@80.223.41.6) |
| 15:57.14 | *** join/#debian Tetr (~chatzilla@92.241.252.136) |
| 15:57.43 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~bitcount@81.61.208.23.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 15:58.02 | *** join/#debian jpo (~jpo@unaffiliated/jpo) |
| 15:58.06 | *** join/#debian D-Chymera (~chymera@mnhm-4d012c8a.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 15:58.17 | *** join/#debian stoffepojken (~stoffepoj@h-216-236.a170.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 15:58.23 | *** join/#debian daveeejr (~quassel@ip-92-73.wireless.oberlin.edu) |
| 15:59.14 | *** join/#debian Moonk__ (~textual@182.55.91.34) |
| 15:59.36 | *** join/#debian fikst (~fikst@d54C442D5.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:00.01 | D-Chymera | hi guys, I am trying to either find the FSL .deb or (better yet) a direct link to the FSL sources on this page - but I have no idea how to find them - can you give me a hand? http://neuro.debian.net/pkgs/fsl.html |
| 16:01.33 | *** join/#debian googlah (~googlah@c-83-219-206-136.cust.bredband2.com) |
| 16:01.37 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 16:01.42 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@174.32.161.68) |
| 16:02.05 | tremon | that package has no sources, it's a dummy package. Do you mean the sources for fsl-core? |
| 16:02.25 | D-Chymera | tremon: yes, or fsl-complete |
| 16:02.48 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-24-119.tor.primus.ca) |
| 16:03.53 | *** join/#debian mislav (~mislav@95-178-179-41.dsl.optinet.hr) |
| 16:04.19 | *** join/#debian berarma (~bernat@147.Red-79-144-8.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:04.25 | *** join/#debian Arsenik (~Cyanure@81-64-170-44.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 16:05.08 | tremon | fafaict the sources are available through the normal method: add repo, use apt-get source |
| 16:05.28 | tremon | instructions on how to add the repository are on neuro.debian.net |
| 16:05.44 | *** join/#debian mislav (~mislav@95-178-179-41.dsl.optinet.hr) |
| 16:06.02 | *** join/#debian tryagain (~tryagain@87.245.203.24) |
| 16:06.03 | mislav | Need to get 8,799 kB of archives. |
| 16:06.03 | mislav | After this operation, 93.2 MB of additional disk space will be used. |
| 16:06.06 | mislav | What in the world? :D |
| 16:06.25 | tremon | however the deb-src lines are commented out by default, you need to edit the list file manually |
| 16:06.50 | tremon | mislav: maybe half of those packages have been downloaded already? |
| 16:07.17 | *** join/#debian kode101 (~kode101@176.61.33.169) |
| 16:07.21 | tremon | that said, debian is switching over to xz compression, which is rumoured to have much better compression |
| 16:07.52 | mislav | Now thats one hell of a compression. I doubt that there are some files downloaded; its fresh debian from netinst |
| 16:08.38 | peterS | mislav: if you run aptitude interactively, you can see the download size vs. installed size for each package. maybe there's one specific package whose data just comparesses really really well |
| 16:08.54 | *** join/#debian qwert2000 (~qwert2000@180.126.235.155) |
| 16:10.10 | mislav | apt is being funny again... http://paste.debian.net/39591/ |
| 16:10.32 | mislav | How does fpc ends up depending on stuff like libsdl-mixer? |
| 16:10.50 | tremon | that's quite normal. -dev packages are source code, and that compresses really well |
| 16:11.04 | *** join/#debian Kh05p3r (~Kh05p3r@gw3.tacwap.org) |
| 16:11.11 | mislav | tremon: actually the first package was mysql-server |
| 16:11.21 | mislav | This time I'm refering to weird dependencies |
| 16:11.43 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@78.97.152.65) |
| 16:12.02 | tremon | loves aptitude --show-why |
| 16:12.06 | *** join/#debian jordilopezamat (~jordi@190.244.55.163) |
| 16:12.17 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 16:12.28 | *** join/#debian geekbri_ (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 16:12.29 | *** join/#debian kulk (~kulk@jp.cl) |
| 16:12.37 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@14.207.185.205) |
| 16:14.28 | *** join/#debian kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) |
| 16:14.30 | *** join/#debian geggam (~geggam@108-218-203-177.uvs.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:17.06 | *** join/#debian Kunda (~Kunda@172-11-122-212.lightspeed.austtx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:19.56 | *** join/#debian cire_nonick (~cire@lacher.name) |
| 16:20.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1458] by debhelper |
| 16:20.26 | *** join/#debian Mailaender (~matthias@p54B5DCB5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:20.33 | *** join/#debian Guest75595 (~err404@89-156-126-249.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 16:20.43 | tremon | D-Chymera: fsl sources are in http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/neurodebian/pool/non-free/f/fsl/ , but using apt-get source is recommended. That way you'll end up with the exact tree and configure options that a particular package was built with |
| 16:21.34 | *** join/#debian socomm (~socomm@96-40-132-102.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 16:21.45 | *** join/#debian marceloamorim (~marcelo@189-90-192-72.isimples.com.br) |
| 16:22.12 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia_ (~filipe@icm-241-138.icm.uu.se) |
| 16:24.39 | *** join/#debian lazers (~lasers@unaffiliated/lasers) |
| 16:25.09 | *** join/#debian daveeejr (~quassel@ip-92-73.wireless.oberlin.edu) |
| 16:25.16 | *** join/#debian Tuxist (~quassel@79.238.193.40) |
| 16:26.47 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@host-88-132-114-184.prtelecom.hu) |
| 16:28.00 | *** join/#debian crose (~John@116-66-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) |
| 16:28.27 | *** join/#debian disarone (~disa@ip-178-201-89-34.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 16:28.33 | *** join/#debian alexei (~amgarchin@p4FD600E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:28.41 | crose | hello, i'm using freeplane 1.2.23 and the fonts in the nodes are really hard to read, is it because of my version of java (openjdk-7-jre) ? |
| 16:30.06 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD600E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:30.58 | *** join/#debian ShaggyInc (~yhwh@31.25.101.165) |
| 16:31.11 | *** join/#debian kresp0 (~kresp0@109.Red-79-144-71.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:32.07 | *** join/#debian jordilopezamat (~jordi@190.244.55.163) |
| 16:32.18 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@cable-81-173-167-106.netcologne.de) |
| 16:32.29 | *** join/#debian Yong (Yong11@77.66.14.254) |
| 16:33.04 | *** join/#debian geekbri (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 16:33.12 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 16:33.20 | *** join/#debian x05h_ (~x05h@64.237.51.168) |
| 16:33.44 | *** join/#debian x05h_ (~x05h@64.237.51.168) |
| 16:34.10 | *** join/#debian x05h (~x05h@64.237.51.168) |
| 16:35.59 | *** join/#debian daveeejr (~quassel@ip-92-73.wireless.oberlin.edu) |
| 16:38.20 | *** join/#debian kmels (~kmels@168.234.49.90) |
| 16:39.52 | *** join/#debian jirka_on_d (~jirkaOnDe@gw1.globalcom.cz) |
| 16:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1452] by debhelper |
| 16:40.23 | *** join/#debian FilipeMaia (~filipe@h136n4-u-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 16:40.39 | *** join/#debian Igoryok96 (~chatzilla@213.110.198.27) |
| 16:41.46 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 16:42.37 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 16:42.41 | *** join/#debian iPwnd (~ipwn@xxxcnn6216.hospedagemdesites.ws) |
| 16:43.03 | *** join/#debian debiantonio (~debianton@201.21.247.159) |
| 16:44.26 | *** join/#debian Yong (Yong11@77.66.14.254) |
| 16:44.56 | *** join/#debian n_np (~erk@41.79.92.161) |
| 16:45.22 | n_np | hey guys |
| 16:45.27 | n_np | how can i change this: warning: unsupported SASL server implementation: pam |
| 16:45.27 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@192.228.104.43) |
| 16:45.30 | n_np | to something working? |
| 16:45.32 | n_np | please assist |
| 16:45.39 | n_np | i've been offline from email for over a week |
| 16:45.46 | *** join/#debian Dry_Lips (~velcro@unaffiliated/dry-lips/x-3531376) |
| 16:45.49 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@81.94.53.5) |
| 16:46.33 | *** join/#debian bullgard4 (~chatzilla@dslb-094-223-001-240.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:47.12 | *** join/#debian jehan (~jehan@kiel4-dmz.gis.de) |
| 16:47.22 | Kunda | n_np, disable sasl |
| 16:47.24 | Kunda | ? |
| 16:47.50 | n_np | how can i do that? |
| 16:48.00 | maxyz | n_np: What is exactly giving you that warning? |
| 16:48.09 | *** join/#debian d_arcy (~Day_dream@gar31-4-82-240-199-124.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:48.29 | n_np | Sep 13 18:44:07 vhost postfix/smtpd[3540]: fatal: SASL per-process initialization failed |
| 16:48.31 | n_np | that |
| 16:50.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1459] by debhelper |
| 16:50.07 | n_np | what could it be? |
| 16:50.19 | maxyz | n_np: You need to check the sasl configuration of you postfix |
| 16:50.35 | Igoryok96 | n_np срфтпу фгер ьуерщв |
| 16:50.40 | *** join/#debian Kh05p3r_ (~Kh05p3r@gw3.tacwap.org) |
| 16:50.45 | Igoryok96 | n_np change auth method |
| 16:50.54 | *** join/#debian deximat (~deximat@net108-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 16:50.57 | n_np | where is that file? |
| 16:51.17 | maxyz | n_np: Are you the system administrator of that machine? |
| 16:51.45 | *** join/#debian przemek (~quassel@109.231.56.226) |
| 16:51.55 | *** join/#debian deximat (~deximat@net108-1-245-109.mbb.telenor.rs) |
| 16:51.59 | n_np | yes |
| 16:52.34 | *** join/#debian ese (~pal@unaffiliated/ese) |
| 16:52.34 | maxyz | check /etc/default/saslauthd |
| 16:52.41 | *** join/#debian deamonologist (~pal@unaffiliated/ese) |
| 16:52.42 | socomm | n_np: there is a postfix channel on this network |
| 16:52.47 | n_np | ok |
| 16:53.12 | n_np | when i changed it, it still gave that error |
| 16:53.13 | n_np | hmmm |
| 16:53.14 | n_np | brb |
| 16:53.14 | maxyz | Check http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html |
| 16:53.55 | maxyz | n_np: Are you trying to use pam as a backend of sasl? |
| 16:54.02 | jcbbjoe | maxyz: your still around |
| 16:54.04 | jcbbjoe | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:54.18 | *** join/#debian geenna (~geenna@93.49.23.56) |
| 16:54.20 | jcbbjoe | maxyz: did you go to sleep at all ? |
| 16:54.48 | *** join/#debian RafaelK (~RafaelK@dslb-088-069-150-249.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:54.55 | maxyz | jcbbjoe: I'm in an European timezone. :) |
| 16:55.10 | jcbbjoe | maxyz: what time is it there ? |
| 16:55.20 | maxyz | 18:55 |
| 16:55.26 | jcbbjoe | oh wow |
| 16:55.44 | Dry_Lips | Ok boys and girls... What do you prefer, Debian 7 or Ubuntu 12.04 as a web server? And why? (I'm about to rent a VPS, and I'll have to make a decision soon ) |
| 16:56.13 | mtn | wonders what the debian channel would recommend, hmmm |
| 16:56.37 | maxyz | Dry_Lips: Go for floppix. :) |
| 16:56.38 | berarma | wonders why Windows isn't an option |
| 16:56.44 | jcbbjoe | man .. im starting to like the gui aptitude |
| 16:56.55 | jcbbjoe | does anyone disagree ? if so why ? |
| 16:57.22 | berarma | jcbbjoe: that's something better suited for #debian-offtopic |
| 16:57.35 | mislav | jcbbjoe: aptitude-gtk? Isnt that obsolete? |
| 16:57.38 | jcbbjoe | berarma: ? |
| 16:57.48 | jcbbjoe | berarma: its a package in debian |
| 16:57.56 | *** join/#debian `Z` (~Z@alpha.thezlab.net) |
| 16:58.01 | mislav | jcbbjoe: this is support channel I guess |
| 16:58.11 | jcbbjoe | mislav: my bad not gui but the console one |
| 16:58.14 | jcbbjoe | aw |
| 16:58.18 | jcbbjoe | i can ask in there |
| 16:58.43 | Igoryok96 | Dry_Lips on my vps i prefered centos 6 - it has updates till 2020 year) |
| 16:59.09 | icjs | Dry_Lips, you're asking that on #debian? :) i say debian if you're more experienced but it should not matter too much. bear in mind on 12.04 i think you get updates for 5 years, with wheezy you'll get updates for 3 years |
| 16:59.14 | *** join/#debian amgarchIn9 (~amgarchin@p4FD600E5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:59.29 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 16:59.42 | *** join/#debian rustyrazorblade (~rustyrazo@rrcs-76-79-124-126.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 16:59.54 | *** join/#debian xrosnight (~quassel@116.76.166.121) |
| 17:00.19 | Dry_Lips | icjs, yes, I'm asking in the Debian channel because I just asked the same question in an Ubuntu related channel... I like to hear the different point of views ;-) |
| 17:00.35 | icjs | jcbbjoe, if it works for you great, but after you've used it 100 times you want something quicker and more immediate and more scriptable - hence i prefer the command line where possible |
| 17:00.37 | maxyz | Dry_Lips: The option depends on your experience, and in what you feel confortable working with and maintaining it. |
| 17:01.13 | Dry_Lips | maxyz, I'm not extremely experienced, though I run Debian 7 on my desktop, and so far I've had Ubuntu on my servers |
| 17:01.23 | icjs | Dry_Lips, there's not going to be a whole lot of difference, i think ubuntu is slightly better if you're a newbie. |
| 17:02.05 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:02.28 | maxyz | icjs: For a server? |
| 17:02.33 | icjs | Dry_Lips, if you're technical enough to install on desktop then go for that with everything else. i do the same, its just nicer having the same environment and packages at the same versions everywhere, you get to know their quirks etc |
| 17:03.41 | icjs | also, i think with ubuntu you can try out their "landscape" server estate management stuff but thats only relevant if you've got LOTs of servers |
| 17:04.12 | *** join/#debian Mac101 (~Mac@host86-177-219-106.range86-177.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:04.32 | Dry_Lips | I'll be running Nginx and probably not much more, in Ubuntu I can use PPA's to get the latest packages, so what are the options if I want to keep Debian up to date? Is Nginx backported, for instance? |
| 17:04.58 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@78.110.69.192) |
| 17:06.04 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 17:06.44 | icjs | Dry_Lips, you're options are to draw from debian-backports for your version 9wheezy), which may or may not have nginx, or you can compile from source or sometimes a debian-derivative like MEPIS will have someone who has packaged a newer nginx for wheezy |
| 17:06.54 | Artemis3 | Dry_Lips, maybe if you plan to use any of the canonical tools (cloud thingie, mass admin) otherwise debian stable would suffice. Check debian backports, and third party repos for updated packages in stable :) |
| 17:06.58 | *** join/#debian mlouis (~mlouis@APuteaux-553-1-67-11.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:07.15 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@89-156-126-249.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 17:07.22 | icjs | Dry_Lips, tbh i can get stuff done with the packaged versions, depends what you're doing i guess. i wouldnt worry about it otherwise. |
| 17:07.51 | maxyz | Dry_Lips: Normally you seek stability in servers more than newer versions, so if nginx is good enough today will be good enough in 3 years, if there is a bug important enough in nginx it will be fixed in stable. |
| 17:08.52 | icjs | yeah maxyz makes a good point. you wont get extra features but you will get security and bug fixes. have to go now, hope you'll choose debian :P |
| 17:09.05 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc3-basf10-2-0-cust617.12-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:09.37 | *** join/#debian EvgenyKabanov (~evgeny@37-145-107-69.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 17:09.37 | *** join/#debian spudz (~deciph3r@bb-va3-tsg-nat-01.blackboard.com) |
| 17:10.33 | *** join/#debian TomasCZ (~TomasCZ@yes.tenlab.net) |
| 17:10.34 | mumpitzel | Dry_Lips: please ask ##linux where such a question belongs. debian is for debian support. not for polls |
| 17:10.52 | *** part/#debian EvgenyKabanov (~evgeny@37-145-107-69.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 17:11.13 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@78.110.70.58) |
| 17:11.15 | *** join/#debian qwert2000 (~qwert2000@180.126.233.254) |
| 17:11.16 | *** join/#debian michele_n (~michele_n@87.16.68.91) |
| 17:11.29 | *** join/#debian LordShiva (~shiva@gateway/tor-sasl/lordshiva) |
| 17:11.37 | Artemis3 | mumpitzel, funny thing in that channel, how do you recommend freebsd? ;) |
| 17:11.50 | *** join/#debian Lolla1 (~LollaCorn@87-194-56-210.bethere.co.uk) |
| 17:12.20 | maxyz | Artemis3: You can recommend kfreebsd port here |
| 17:12.40 | Artemis3 | good point ^^ |
| 17:13.42 | *** join/#debian nmpro (~mike@50-77-43-125-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 17:14.50 | nmpro | quick cron related question.. if I want a job to run at 4:00pm every day do I set it as 00 16 * * * ? |
| 17:14.57 | *** join/#debian err404_ (~err404@89-156-126-249.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 17:17.02 | *** join/#debian Kh05p3r (~Kh05p3r@gw3.tacwap.org) |
| 17:18.57 | *** join/#debian uwjesq (~henry@w3.morphium.info) |
| 17:19.30 | maxyz | Yes |
| 17:19.35 | uwjesq | How can I reconfigure network with debconf or dkpg (what is the exact line)? |
| 17:19.49 | nmpro | maxyz, was that yes for my question? ;) |
| 17:19.49 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@e182082180.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:20.04 | maxyz | yes |
| 17:20.06 | maxyz | :) |
| 17:20.17 | nmpro | maxyz, thanks!!! |
| 17:20.19 | *** join/#debian cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 17:21.23 | maxyz | uwjesq: I think there is no debconf interface for network configuration. |
| 17:21.25 | *** join/#debian rene__ (~rene@179-236-21-86.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 17:22.11 | Igoryok96 | .йгше |
| 17:22.29 | *** join/#debian Pullphinger (~Pullphing@c-24-13-69-42.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 17:22.30 | uwjesq | maxyz: I remember in the setup it asked me to choose an ip adress and a gateway I just need that interface again. |
| 17:22.44 | bullgard4 | Where should I install the Ubuntu fonts family http://font.ubuntu.com/resources/ so that all users can use them in Debian wheezy Xfce 4.8? |
| 17:22.49 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 17:23.00 | jimcooncat | Dry_Lips: Staying on the cutting edge isn't Debian's forte, although some here play with more current packages from testing and experimental. Also, if you're relying on PPA's to keep 'buntu up to date, you're giving root access to that individual maintainer. Stick to your repos, and work within the system -- you'll be much happier. |
| 17:23.09 | *** join/#debian dixoncx (~quassel@117.252.17.194) |
| 17:23.10 | mtn | uwjesq: are you using network manager? |
| 17:23.21 | maxyz | jimcooncat: Isn't there a package for that? |
| 17:23.24 | *** join/#debian jordilopezamat1 (~jordi@190.244.55.163) |
| 17:23.41 | uwjesq | mtn: What is a network manager? |
| 17:23.54 | Sevet | uwjesq: that's part of the installer, not a package. edit /etc/network/interfaces or use the networkmanager gui |
| 17:23.56 | mtn | uwjesq: do you have gnome or another desktop installed? |
| 17:23.57 | *** join/#debian Igoryok96-Droid (~Igoryok96@213.110.198.27) |
| 17:23.58 | maxyz | Nah, just fonts-ubuntu-title |
| 17:24.05 | jimcooncat | maxyz: package for what? :) |
| 17:24.09 | bullgard4 | uwjesq: a program |
| 17:24.15 | *** join/#debian bakaneko (~bakaneko_@kuzh.polytechnique.fr) |
| 17:24.22 | uwjesq | Sevet: Is the executable name networkmanager? |
| 17:24.24 | maxyz | jimcooncat: Sorry, wrong highlight |
| 17:24.56 | uwjesq | I do not have network manager. |
| 17:25.14 | uwjesq | So I guess it is typing everything in the config file for me again. |
| 17:25.17 | *** join/#debian renebarbosa (~rene@179-236-21-86.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 17:25.17 | *** join/#debian renebarbosa (~rene@unaffiliated/renebarbosa) |
| 17:25.17 | jimcooncat | is a victim of mistaken identity. |
| 17:25.36 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 17:25.54 | uwjesq | Thank god it is utf8 and not rot13 I mean that is user friendly, isn't it? |
| 17:26.17 | mtn | uwjesq: do you have gnome or another desktop installed? |
| 17:26.17 | maxyz | bullgard4: /usr/local/share/fonts |
| 17:26.20 | Dry_Lips | jimcooncat, specifically I need nginx with the pagespeed module, it's not in Debian yet, no? |
| 17:26.31 | uwjesq | mtn: xfce4 |
| 17:26.33 | Artemis3 | uwjesq, i believe network manager needs to be running as daemon/service, and also the user runs nm-applet to control it. nm will ignore anything defined in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:27.24 | mtn | uwjesq: then you should have network manager installed or wicd. much easier to use them. if you want to use them, you will have to remove the device lines from /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:27.27 | *** join/#debian SubjectOne (~section1@78-20-192-197.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:27.50 | uwjesq | mtn: How can I access them. |
| 17:28.08 | uwjesq | mtn: The machine even has gnome. But no interface manager in sight. |
| 17:28.16 | mtn | uwjesq: nm-applet, like Artemis3 just told you. |
| 17:28.26 | *** join/#debian austeregrim- (~androirc@32.159.75.159) |
| 17:28.29 | mtn | uwjesq: gnome comes with network manager by default |
| 17:28.53 | *** join/#debian iPwnd (~ipwn@xxxcnn6216.hospedagemdesites.ws) |
| 17:28.56 | uwjesq | mtn: Not sure, maybe it is only the window manager without the desktop. |
| 17:29.04 | Dry_Lips | but thanks for your advice, jimcooncat |
| 17:29.07 | *** join/#debian Leryan (~florent@2a01:e35:8a3f:81f0:1a03:73ff:fe61:8f61) |
| 17:29.12 | mtn | uwjesq: are you using debian? which version? |
| 17:29.21 | uwjesq | mtn: It is 6. |
| 17:29.43 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 17:29.46 | mtn | uwjesq: it came with network manager by default |
| 17:30.12 | maxyz | mtn: squeeze? Are you sure? |
| 17:30.27 | bullgard4 | maxyz: Thank you. (A visitor came, and I have to close down.) |
| 17:30.29 | mtn | maxyz: did for me, if I recall |
| 17:30.34 | uwjesq | mtn: /usr/bin/network-admin does not exist. And that was my only idea basically. |
| 17:31.02 | mtn | uwjesq: either edit /etc/network/interfaces and use it, or use network-manager and nm-applet |
| 17:31.19 | maxyz | uwjesq: network-admin is no good. |
| 17:31.33 | jimcooncat | Dry_Lips: You would need to build from source to use pagespeed with Nginx. See https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/module/download |
| 17:31.47 | maxyz | uwjesq: The configuration you set in the installation is in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:31.55 | Dry_Lips | Ok, cheers, jimcooncat! |
| 17:31.57 | Dry_Lips | :) |
| 17:32.04 | *** join/#debian r0tha (~r0tha@50.0.134.120) |
| 17:32.11 | mtn | uwjesq: https://wiki.debian.org/Network |
| 17:32.27 | *** join/#debian FlyingFoX (~quassel@sanktwendel.weh.rwth-aachen.de) |
| 17:32.31 | *** part/#debian Igoryok96-Droid (~Igoryok96@213.110.198.27) |
| 17:32.56 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~daniel@HSI-KBW-091-089-154-223.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 17:33.02 | maxyz | uwjesq: You can change it editing the file. |
| 17:34.10 | maxyz | Once you have network access you can install network manager. Was you network working during the installation? |
| 17:34.22 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 17:34.45 | maxyz | uwjesq: Anyway, the current stable version of Debian is wheezy 7.1 |
| 17:34.56 | uwjesq | maxyz: This is my dads machine. He has dhcp and I have gateway routing. |
| 17:34.58 | *** join/#debian ws2k3 (~ton@541BC969.cm-5-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 17:35.13 | maxyz | So you might have to update lots of packages |
| 17:35.23 | *** join/#debian wsk233 (~ton@95.211.221.251) |
| 17:36.06 | uwjesq | maxyz: Did this on my own machine already the jump from 6 to 7. It worked like a charm. |
| 17:37.47 | maxyz | Ok, so the network connection in that computer is working fine? |
| 17:37.51 | n_np | fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms |
| 17:38.00 | n_np | i didnt set that? im sure i did |
| 17:38.02 | n_np | where is it set? |
| 17:38.06 | n_np | in dovecot or postfix? |
| 17:38.49 | maxyz | n_np: postfix needs some sasl configuration. |
| 17:39.03 | n_np | ive done it ll |
| 17:39.14 | n_np | what is the particular line for setting it to plain mechanism? |
| 17:39.16 | maxyz | sasl need some pam configuration if you are using pam as a backend |
| 17:39.21 | *** join/#debian GentileBen (~RaycisCha@cpc5-lutn10-2-0-cust681.9-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 17:39.40 | n_np | i think im just using dovecot, i dono |
| 17:39.52 | n_np | i set it to dovecot now |
| 17:40.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1448] by debhelper |
| 17:40.48 | maxyz | in /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf: pwcheck_method: saslauthd\nsaslauthd_path: /var/run/saslauthd/mux\nmech_list: plain login |
| 17:41.01 | maxyz | Something like that |
| 17:41.25 | uwjesq | maxyz: In the config do I write gateway or standardgateway? |
| 17:41.27 | n_np | hanks |
| 17:41.32 | *** join/#debian m3g9tr0n (~magnum@ppp-94-64-194-118.home.otenet.gr) |
| 17:41.35 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~unknown@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 17:41.38 | *** join/#debian rustyrazorblade (~rustyrazo@rrcs-76-79-124-126.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:41.39 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@e182082180.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 17:41.39 | maxyz | n_np: ^, replacing the \n by newlines. |
| 17:42.02 | maxyz | gateway 192.168.21.1 |
| 17:42.07 | maxyz | Ups, sorry |
| 17:42.13 | maxyz | gateway |
| 17:42.58 | *** join/#debian ksinny (~quassel@kde/developer/sinnykumari) |
| 17:43.10 | maxyz | uwjesq: Aren't you using dhcp server, you may just put auto eth0\niface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 17:43.43 | *** join/#debian stoffepojken (~stoffepoj@h-216-236.a170.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 17:43.44 | *** join/#debian Corerris (~ribe@5.254.148.60) |
| 17:45.27 | uwjesq | maxyz: He has dhcp at home. At the moment I have only a gateway. I am getting a dhcp in 2 months |
| 17:45.59 | *** join/#debian soul (~quassel@82.198.113.42) |
| 17:46.11 | *** part/#debian Pegasus_RPG (~Icedove@66.225.115.10) |
| 17:46.35 | *** join/#debian ToApolytoXaos (~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128) |
| 17:46.45 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@89-64-218-160.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 17:47.59 | maxyz | uwjesq: Ok, then you are going to need to remember to change this file when he changes networks. |
| 17:48.27 | uwjesq | maxyz: Indeed. Thanks. |
| 17:49.16 | maxyz | Remember to add dns-nameservers as well, or at least check that /etc/resolv.conf has a valid nameserver |
| 17:50.27 | *** join/#debian rocketmagnet (~stuv@unaffiliated/rocketmagnet) |
| 17:50.30 | rocketmagnet | hi all |
| 17:51.10 | *** join/#debian wcfields (~wcfields@64-31-96-210.static-ip.telepacific.net) |
| 17:51.36 | *** join/#debian geekbri_ (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 17:51.47 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-213-33.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 17:51.49 | *** join/#debian zappy (~zuppy@xdsl-188-118-142-182.dip.osnanet.de) |
| 17:51.51 | *** join/#debian kulk (~kulk@jp.cl) |
| 17:51.51 | *** join/#debian BotaniCar (~BotaniCar@93-141-110-239.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 17:52.47 | *** join/#debian Konrad127123 (~konrad@89-64-218-160.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 17:55.16 | *** join/#debian bobbyd3 (~viktor@209.197.20.197) |
| 17:55.25 | *** join/#debian geekbri_ (~geekbri@64.80.49.146) |
| 17:55.45 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@2620:f3:8000:5003::e789) |
| 17:55.46 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 17:56.49 | zerick | Hi |
| 17:57.18 | *** part/#debian Shara (uid13135@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mdaimwqnkgevknyv) |
| 17:58.10 | *** join/#debian ratcheer (~tim@unaffiliated/ratcheer) |
| 17:58.25 | ratcheer | Technical question: Can kernel.radeon.dpm=1 be put into sysctl.conf? I mean, will it work? |
| 18:00.13 | *** join/#debian HelenaKitty (~s98259@97e716f0.skybroadband.com) |
| 18:02.10 | LordDeath | will we ever see mysql 5.6 in debian or are the devs going to replace mysql with mariadb? |
| 18:02.17 | n_np | why does it say this? warning: SASL: Connect to private/auth failed: Connection refused |
| 18:02.43 | tremon | ratcheer: I don't think so, as what's given on the kernel command line are module parameters, not sysctl settings (iirc) |
| 18:02.48 | mumpitzel | n_np: usually cause a tcp port or a unix portdoesn't accept connections |
| 18:02.53 | jhutchins | ,versions mysql-server |
| 18:02.54 | judd | Package: mysql-server on i386 -- squeeze: 5.1.49-3; squeeze-security: 5.1.66-0+squeeze1; wheezy: 5.5.31+dfsg-0+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 5.5.31+dfsg-0+wheezy1; jessie: 5.5.31+dfsg-1; sid: 5.5.31+dfsg-1 |
| 18:02.54 | mumpitzel | e.g. the port is not open |
| 18:03.06 | *** join/#debian pLk (~scooper@xdslaf075.osnanet.de) |
| 18:03.11 | n_np | mumpitzel how could i go about opening it? |
| 18:04.00 | ratcheer | tremon: Thank you. So, even though it is always referred to as a "kernel module parameter", it is not really a "kernel parameter"? |
| 18:04.51 | jhutchins | ratcheer: Right, it's a kernel module parameter. |
| 18:05.06 | *** join/#debian BostonMA1776 (~BostonMA1@rrcs-67-79-54-130.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 18:05.10 | ratcheer | jhutchins: Ok, thank you. |
| 18:05.22 | jhutchins | ratcheer: You might be able to put it in a file in modules.d |
| 18:05.24 | tremon | I've never heard of sysctl variables referred to as kernel parameters though |
| 18:05.29 | *** part/#debian Kobaz (~kobaz@its.kobaz.net) |
| 18:06.18 | jhutchins | Oe is that modprobe.d? Whichever. |
| 18:06.18 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~beep@h-199-47.a328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 18:06.29 | ratcheer | tremon: Look at "sysctl -a". There are lots of things that are kernel.xx.yy |
| 18:07.23 | *** join/#debian dash_ (~d45h@unaffiliated/dash-/x-7576607) |
| 18:07.33 | tremon | the sysctl manpage is a lot more convincing though: "sysctl is used to modify kernel parameters..." |
| 18:07.50 | BostonMA1776 | I have a nvidia geforce 5600 gt graphics card, I tried installing non-free drivers. I followed this tutorial https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers I got to the part where I restart the computer. Now I am in a non-graphical mode. I think the graphics driver didn't work. I am on a different computer at the moment. |
| 18:07.54 | ratcheer | tremon: Yes, that too. ;) |
| 18:08.35 | ratcheer | But anyway, I agree, it will not work. It was just an idea. |
| 18:09.09 | *** join/#debian x-treme (~x-treme@unaffiliated/x-treme) |
| 18:09.47 | *** join/#debian rustyrazorblade (~rustyrazo@rrcs-76-79-124-126.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 18:09.56 | *** join/#debian rene__ (~rene@189-82-124-236.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 18:10.02 | *** join/#debian ws2k3 (~ton@541BC969.cm-5-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 18:10.29 | tremon | there is a virtually pain-free way to test what you want, you don't /have/ to take my word for it :) |
| 18:10.44 | *** join/#debian _p0g0_ (~jason@70-36-196-99.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 18:10.56 | *** join/#debian wathek (~wathek@183.83.138.58) |
| 18:11.53 | *** join/#debian Axlin (~david@252.142-205-66.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 18:11.59 | *** join/#debian wildc4rd (~nick@82.153.98.100) |
| 18:12.06 | tremon | can static routes be defined somewhere? Right now I'm using "post-up ip route add ..." in /e/n/interfaces, but is there a better way? |
| 18:12.44 | *** join/#debian bwana147 (~cbouvi@196-212-250-178.ftth.cust.kwaoo.net) |
| 18:12.48 | ratcheer | tremon: Another thing I read said you could find a list of all the sysctl parameters in /proc/sys. I could not find it there, either. |
| 18:13.26 | *** join/#debian qrz7 (~pku@ppp-93-104-150-166.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 18:14.03 | *** join/#debian JoeHart (~Dante@108.166.161.213) |
| 18:14.56 | jcbbjoe | hi all .. i have a question that might sound wierd .. if windows is on /dev/sda4 and if i do a mount /dev/sda4 /media/windows .. i have to keep going to cd /media/windows/whatever .. is there a way to mount the folder i want instead of doing the whole cd /media/windows until i get to the driectory i want |
| 18:15.01 | jcbbjoe | can i mount just that folder ? |
| 18:15.37 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 18:16.25 | *** join/#debian rustyrazorblade (~rustyrazo@rrcs-76-79-124-126.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 18:16.27 | tremon | no you can't, however once /dev/sda4 has been mounted somewhere, you can do bind mounts to shorten things, e.g. mount --bind /media/wirdows/my/very/amazingly/long/path /media/shortpath |
| 18:16.51 | *** join/#debian goly (~goly@89-68-110-157.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 18:16.54 | tremon | but realistically, a symlink would be much easier |
| 18:17.54 | jcbbjoe | tremon: ls -s ? |
| 18:17.59 | tremon | ln -s |
| 18:17.59 | jcbbjoe | or ln -s |
| 18:18.02 | jcbbjoe | ok |
| 18:18.08 | jcbbjoe | what would i link it to tremon ? |
| 18:18.50 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 18:20.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1454] by debhelper |
| 18:20.07 | tremon | whatever you want, ln -s /media/windows/my/very/amazingly/long/path /media/shortpath, or even ~/shortpath |
| 18:20.15 | *** join/#debian Arsenik (~Cyanure@81-64-170-44.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 18:22.03 | *** join/#debian Pikudoz (~Pikonas@190.232.74.120) |
| 18:22.05 | *** join/#debian smw (~smw@unaffiliated/smw) |
| 18:22.17 | *** join/#debian oobe (~thingo@unaffiliated/oobe) |
| 18:23.02 | *** join/#debian p3rror (~mezgani@41.249.133.234) |
| 18:24.34 | *** join/#debian arare (~Aramur@153.68.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 18:25.59 | jhutchins | BostonMA1776: Ok. |
| 18:26.38 | jhutchins | BostonMA1776: So go through the tutorial step-by-step and see what got missed. You still have console access, that should be all you need to fix it. |
| 18:26.46 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e} (~kvirc@178.121.131.222) |
| 18:27.16 | *** join/#debian jwash (~jwash@173-13-186-66-sfba.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 18:27.24 | *** join/#debian JoAkKiNeN (~joakkinen@234.18.165.83.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 18:27.56 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e} (~kvirc@178.121.131.222) |
| 18:29.01 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host52-231-static.242-95-b.business.telecomitalia.it) |
| 18:29.26 | *** join/#debian iceflatline (~iceflatli@209-23-210-2-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 18:29.34 | *** part/#debian ratcheer (~tim@unaffiliated/ratcheer) |
| 18:29.54 | *** join/#debian Spr1ng (~Spr1ng@unaffiliated/spr1ng) |
| 18:33.11 | *** join/#debian Thaxll (~Thaxll@jutoba.com) |
| 18:33.42 | Thaxll | Hi, if you use PXE to install Debian how to avoid re-installation when the server reboot? is there a way to tell pxe not to reinstall if OS already installed ( in the config file)? |
| 18:34.17 | jhutchins | Thaxll: Generally you disable PXE boot on restart. |
| 18:34.22 | *** join/#debian ghostlines (~ghost@92.109.90.61) |
| 18:34.41 | Thaxll | yeah but for VMs it's kind of tricky :/ |
| 18:34.45 | *** join/#debian Axlin (~david@252.142-205-66.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 18:34.51 | jhutchins | Thaxll: The easiest way is to have the boot order take the HD first and PXE if it fails. It's not hard to make the HD fail to boot to trigger the install. |
| 18:35.17 | *** join/#debian Axlin (~david@252.142-205-66.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 18:35.36 | *** join/#debian n0c (~f00f@2001:470:1f05:1beb:0:867:530:9) |
| 18:35.38 | Thaxll | <jhutchins>: I see i wasn't sure if there was that setting in the pxe config thanks! |
| 18:35.57 | jhutchins | Thaxll: Failing that, do a shutdown instead of a reboot, change the VM options and "power on". |
| 18:36.33 | n0c | hey there, how can I determine if the debian package vlc-nox was compiled with the option --enable-v4l ? |
| 18:36.40 | *** join/#debian Crabunhador (~Crabunhad@70.Red-81-39-94.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:37.34 | *** join/#debian zafu (~pif@84-74-26-25.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 18:38.32 | *** part/#debian JoeHart (~Dante@108.166.161.213) |
| 18:40.12 | jimcooncat | Thaxll: If your dhcp conf has individual host entries, you can also just comment out the "filename" entry once you have it installed. Uncomment to reinstall on next reboot. |
| 18:40.55 | Thaxll | <jimcooncat>: well I'm using openstack / foreman so it's not realy possible since this file is auto created |
| 18:41.00 | *** join/#debian Kyan` (~kyan@host207-39-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 18:41.05 | Kyan` | hi! |
| 18:41.15 | *** join/#debian codesoup (~codesoup@184.175.19.180) |
| 18:41.33 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~emonge@200.110.251.210) |
| 18:41.40 | jimcooncat | Kyan`: 1439 users say "hi!" back. Please give us more to chew on. |
| 18:41.47 | Kyan` | hi! |
| 18:41.49 | Kyan` | lol |
| 18:41.50 | *** join/#debian leitao (~breno@177.194.121.115) |
| 18:42.01 | Kyan` | pardon |
| 18:42.08 | Kyan` | i'm new on Debian |
| 18:42.11 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@174.32.161.68) |
| 18:42.12 | Kyan` | fresh install |
| 18:43.37 | *** join/#debian g_r_eek (~g_r_eek@ppp-94-68-168-116.home.otenet.gr) |
| 18:44.12 | *** join/#debian Buumi (~Jori@dsl-vsabrasgw1-50df29-6.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 18:44.31 | *** join/#debian dragobart (~edinbug42@212.183.43.125) |
| 18:44.37 | *** join/#debian XLV (~XLV@unaffiliated/xlv) |
| 18:44.51 | Thaxll | jimcooncat: I'll try to boot on HD as a first choice and then try running the vmlinux / initrm |
| 18:44.54 | *** join/#debian vladuke_ (~vladuke@178.130.42.7) |
| 18:46.04 | BostonMA1776 | jhutchins: Thank you. |
| 18:47.35 | *** join/#debian dclarsen (~dave@c-98-248-32-102.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 18:48.26 | jhutchins | Kyan`: Welcome aboard! This is Debian support. If you have a problem, tell us what you're using, what you did, what you expected to happen, and what happened instead. |
| 18:48.53 | Kyan` | mmm |
| 18:49.54 | BostonMA1776 | jhutchins: I verified I did everything correctly except one thing. It says I need to restart my system. By restart my system does it mean turn the computer off then back on? I have done that three times. |
| 18:49.59 | Kyan` | jhutchins, thanx! last thing i've done is to install Remastersys to make weekly backup of my system. 'cause last time i've tried to update from wheezy to jessie i've went to some errors and had to re-install again all os. (actually running wheezy amd64) |
| 18:51.58 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@41.140.159.162) |
| 18:53.26 | *** part/#debian Quacero (~quacero@p54B4B288.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:53.39 | *** join/#debian PcJamesy (~James@unaffiliated/pcjamesy) |
| 18:53.44 | *** join/#debian seekr (~seekr@209.6.201.191) |
| 18:54.08 | *** join/#debian h1nd (~h1nd@HSI-KBW-082-212-007-061.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 18:54.11 | *** join/#debian ws2k3 (~ton@541BC969.cm-5-4d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 18:54.17 | *** join/#debian xrosnight (~quassel@116.76.166.121) |
| 18:54.43 | *** join/#debian iPwnd (~ipwn@xxxcnn6216.hospedagemdesites.ws) |
| 18:54.54 | h1nd | hey all. I am logged-in with root, trying to do a "rm -rf /testdir" and I get an error that I have no right to remove this dir. "lsof |grep testdir" doesn't give any output. "lsattr /testdir" doesnt show me anything. What's wrong here?? |
| 18:55.45 | mtn | h1nd: what does ls show? |
| 18:56.06 | jordanm | h1nd: you will have to be root to remove a subdir of / |
| 18:56.20 | *** join/#debian x-treme (~x-treme@unaffiliated/x-treme) |
| 18:56.59 | h1nd | jordanm: I am root. mtn, ls shows nothing especially, normal output |
| 18:57.24 | h1nd | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Sep 13 20:51 log |
| 18:57.26 | *** join/#debian TJCRI (~chatzilla@148.61.156.95) |
| 18:57.37 | h1nd | I cannot delete this directory named log |
| 18:57.57 | jordanm | h1nd: the permission on the dir itself don't matter |
| 18:58.05 | jordanm | h1nd: it's the permission on it's parent directory |
| 18:58.13 | h1nd | jordanm: I am ROOT ! |
| 18:58.22 | berarma | h1nd: can you pastebin the command output? |
| 18:59.06 | drifter | h1nd: filesystem? |
| 18:59.14 | *** join/#debian Soru (~quassel@228.Red-79-152-17.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:59.36 | maxyz | jordanm: Is that directory a mount point? |
| 18:59.38 | zykotick9 | drifter: i'd guess, fat or ntfs ;) |
| 18:59.54 | h1nd | http://paste.debian.net/39670/ it's in German. It does mean that I have no right to remove this dir |
| 19:00.01 | maxyz | Ups, sorry, h1nd: Is that directory a mount point? |
| 19:00.05 | jhutchins | h1nd: You may need to do an fsck - shutdown -Fr now |
| 19:00.10 | jordanm | !localised errors |
| 19:00.10 | dpkg | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install» |
| 19:00.12 | h1nd | ext3 |
| 19:00.29 | h1nd | jhutchins: I did already, also rebooted |
| 19:00.50 | rryoumaa | is this a problem? "Starting VirtualBox kernel modulesNo suitable module for running kernel found ... failed!" |
| 19:01.15 | h1nd | maxyz: that's it! Thank you! |
| 19:01.20 | *** part/#debian EstebanMonge (~emonge@200.110.251.210) |
| 19:01.22 | jordanm | rryoumaa: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup |
| 19:01.59 | *** join/#debian EstebanMonge (~emonge@200.110.251.210) |
| 19:02.52 | rryoumaa | -su: /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: No such file or directory (i know nothing about virtualbox and want to try it) |
| 19:02.59 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@dslb-188-109-019-169.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:02.59 | *** join/#debian ZIPY (~ZIPY@unaffiliated/zipy) |
| 19:03.05 | *** join/#debian x-treme (~x-treme@unaffiliated/x-treme) |
| 19:03.09 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-24-119.tor.primus.ca) |
| 19:03.13 | rryoumaa | i got that first error when i did aptitude install virtualbox |
| 19:03.16 | *** join/#debian azcodex (~azcodex_@173.red-80-26-174.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net) |
| 19:03.36 | BostonMA1776 | My display driver isn't working properly. When I go home is there a good irc client I can use via the command line? Is there one installed in debian wheezy by default? What about text editor. |
| 19:04.16 | zykotick9 | BostonMA1776: check out irssi or weechat for terminal based irc, for editor vim/emacs are both popular ;) |
| 19:04.33 | *** join/#debian azcodex (~azcodex_@173.red-80-26-174.adsl.dynamic.ccgg.telefonica.net) |
| 19:04.36 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Jacob@client-82-25-237-163.glfd.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:04.37 | *** join/#debian Seryth (~Jacob@unaffiliated/mang0) |
| 19:04.39 | jhutchins | BostonMA1776: irssi is a great IRC client - in fact many advanced users use it in a terminal with screen. That lets detach a session on one computer and attatch to it remotely with ssh, maintaining the same continuous session. |
| 19:05.08 | Storfiskaren | BostonMA1776: but the text editor nano is easier for beginners |
| 19:05.13 | zykotick9 | jhutchins: am i not an "advanced user" 'cause i use tmux in place of screen ;) |
| 19:05.28 | mtn | rryoumaa: virtualbox has a good manual on their website |
| 19:05.29 | jhutchins | zykotick9: I would rate that as "more advanced" myself. |
| 19:05.33 | *** join/#debian WormDude (~wormfood@183.14.16.55) |
| 19:05.53 | mtn | rryoumaa: how did you install virtualbox? |
| 19:06.12 | *** join/#debian Jacob_ (~Jacob@client-86-23-82-12.brhm.adsl.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:06.17 | maxyz | rryoumaa: Are you planning to use virtualbox? |
| 19:06.18 | rryoumaa | mtn: aptitude install virtualbox, then later purge, then just now install. |
| 19:06.56 | mtn | rryoumaa: do you have virtualbox-dkms installed? |
| 19:07.03 | BostonMA1776 | Thank you, I will download them when I get home. I may need to ask a few more questions... I printed off the wiki article on fixing my display driver, but I was afraid I would miss something and have no way to contact irc. Thanks. |
| 19:07.04 | rryoumaa | mtn, maxyz: my goal is to be able to isolate iceweasel but have it work reasonably normally. i was told virtualbox is a good choice for that. |
| 19:07.08 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@78.186.152.96) |
| 19:07.37 | maxyz | Not really. |
| 19:07.43 | zykotick9 | BostonMA1776: for a text web browser i'd suggest elinks or links2... |
| 19:07.44 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 19:07.48 | *** join/#debian horsik (~username@static-81-219-121-23.devs.futuro.pl) |
| 19:08.09 | rryoumaa | mtn: yes i have that installed |
| 19:08.24 | horsik | hi anyone had previous experience with emdebian? |
| 19:08.25 | rryoumaa | maxyz: i am open to alternatives |
| 19:08.27 | BostonMA1776 | zykotick9: Thanks. That will be useful. |
| 19:08.27 | *** join/#debian Ephexeve (4dfab3e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.250.179.233) |
| 19:08.29 | maxyz | rryoumaa: Anyway, try to follow this: https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox |
| 19:08.31 | mtn | rryoumaa: odd, mine worked fine after install |
| 19:08.36 | *** part/#debian Ephexeve (4dfab3e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.250.179.233) |
| 19:08.39 | *** join/#debian Ephexeve (4dfab3e9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.250.179.233) |
| 19:08.58 | mtn | rryoumaa: you have to load the module: modprobe vboxdrv |
| 19:09.12 | maxyz | rryoumaa: Basicaly, you need to have the kernel headers to build the virtualbox modules. |
| 19:09.32 | *** part/#debian h1nd (~h1nd@HSI-KBW-082-212-007-061.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 19:09.35 | rryoumaa | modprobe vboxdrv returns nothing |
| 19:09.39 | Ephexeve | Hey guys, question, I am using Debian Wheezy, but I cannot get my wifi usb to work, I am using a rtl8192s, I used installed firmware-realtek, but it dosn't seem to work, any idea? |
| 19:10.16 | mtn | rryoumaa: try running vbox after running that modprobe |
| 19:11.01 | *** join/#debian beet0l (~beet0l@cpe-74-72-87-242.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 19:11.32 | *** join/#debian Toast_ (~quassel@w-247.cust-16293.ip.static.uno.uk.net) |
| 19:11.42 | *** join/#debian soundstruck (~soundstru@unaffiliated/soundstruck) |
| 19:12.03 | *** join/#debian deter (~deter@ip-213-220-253-66.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 19:12.05 | rryoumaa | no command vbox. should i run virtualbox as root? i get the screen, but the fonts are unreadably small. |
| 19:12.12 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@32.159.75.159) |
| 19:12.41 | mtn | rryoumaa: sorry, that was an abbreviation. start virtualbox, not as root |
| 19:12.45 | *** join/#debian Spr1ng (~Spr1ng@unaffiliated/spr1ng) |
| 19:13.03 | rryoumaa | that comes up nicely but the fonts are unreadably small |
| 19:13.06 | maxyz | rryoumaa: It depends, if you want to restrict the amount of memory you can call iceweasel with ulimit as, if you want it away from your data, you could run it in a chroot. |
| 19:13.20 | Ephexeve | Anyone? |
| 19:13.27 | mtn | rryoumaa: best bet is follow the wiki, maybe you missed something |
| 19:13.28 | rryoumaa | maxyz: i want untrusted plugins to not have a whole lot they can do to harm me |
| 19:13.32 | *** join/#debian wolfinterval (~wolfinter@173-164-237-81-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 19:13.35 | rryoumaa | like adobe flash |
| 19:13.37 | maxyz | rryoumaa: Could you read the wiki page I sent you? |
| 19:13.47 | rryoumaa | i will read the wiki |
| 19:14.47 | *** join/#debian Roujo (~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo) |
| 19:15.14 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 19:15.23 | *** join/#debian cuco (~elcuco@bzq-79-180-216-87.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 19:15.51 | maxyz | Ephexeve: So, you installed the package, unpluged the usb wifi, plug it again and then what hapend? |
| 19:16.03 | *** part/#debian Roujo (~Roujo@unaffiliated/roujo) |
| 19:16.06 | Ephexeve | maxyz: Nothing, iwconfig says nothing |
| 19:16.07 | maxyz | Ephexeve: Any message in dmesg? |
| 19:16.10 | Ephexeve | tried rebooting, nothing |
| 19:16.17 | Ephexeve | maxyz: let me chck.. |
| 19:16.41 | berarma | would you use a swap file on a VPS server? |
| 19:16.43 | maxyz | or sudo tail -f /var/log/kern.log |
| 19:16.59 | cuco | hi all, on one system of mine i upgraded and got the new kmail, which is just borked. All of my settings were not upgraded, and I lost the pop3 connection. I had to re-create it and now I cannot read email. I am waiting with the upgrade of another system, |
| 19:17.04 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: Or you could do what thousands of other users do and trust the system. As long as you're not installing weird plugins from untrusted sources you should be fine. |
| 19:17.17 | somiaj | berarma: yes, mostly because the ram a vps gives you is fairly small so it could be useful. |
| 19:17.18 | Ephexeve | maxyz: Note that wlan0 is another wireless, the one I am using it now -> http://bpaste.net/show/7rEvP20jYcZk9d5x6Yy2/ |
| 19:17.22 | cuco | Is this a known issue? I looked at bugs.debian.org, but I am not finding anything |
| 19:17.25 | maxyz | berarma: Depends on how much memory you have and how much are you planning to use |
| 19:17.32 | *** join/#debian s0d0 (~john@host81-141-166-73.wlms-broadband.com) |
| 19:17.39 | jhutchins | cuco: Yep. kmail is b0rken. |
| 19:17.49 | mtn | cuco: upgrading packages doesn't change your settings |
| 19:17.55 | somiaj | berarma: are you setting pu the vps, or was the vps set up by your provider. If so they probabaly have a swap parttion on the virtual hd already set up for you. |
| 19:17.55 | berarma | somiaj: maxyz: I mean swap file vs swap partition |
| 19:17.55 | jhutchins | cuco: What did you upgrade from/to? |
| 19:18.04 | maxyz | jhutchins: Yes |
| 19:18.14 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 19:18.14 | berarma | somiaj: I'm installing Debian on it |
| 19:18.24 | somiaj | berarma: you could do either, but I think the standard is to partition the virtual hd and put the swap on the partition over a file. Either works. |
| 19:18.29 | *** join/#debian Selveste1 (~hds@31.25.23.230) |
| 19:18.33 | rryoumaa | jhutchins: i know it seems silly to a lot of people, but i don't like to install proprietary, closed-source code from known privacy violators like adobe without at least a little isolation of the process. these days, i think more people are beginning to understand that. |
| 19:18.34 | cuco | mtn: the move to kdepim 4.10 does - the data engines changed. This is what in wezzy the new kdepim was not imported and debian ships with an older kdepim. |
| 19:18.45 | *** join/#debian bjelleklang (~chris@wikipedia/Bjelleklang) |
| 19:18.50 | somiaj | berarma: over all it is a swap file, just is on the virtual hd as a partition as opposed to a file inside the os. |
| 19:18.50 | jhutchins | mtn: THis isn't the first report of the latest kmail breaking on upgrade. |
| 19:19.02 | berarma | swap file is more flexible but does it have the same performance than a partition on a VPS? |
| 19:19.05 | *** join/#debian thorsten_t_ge (~thorsten@p57A7A138.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:19.20 | rryoumaa | jhutchins: also, i want to be able to install firefox extensions, which might or might not have good vetting by those who maintain the add-ons site at mozilla. even if they did, that site could get cracked. |
| 19:19.21 | mtn | jhutchins: the upgrade really removes settings in the home folder? really? |
| 19:19.43 | rryoumaa | jhutchins: in other words, i trust debian, but not necessarily adobe. |
| 19:19.53 | somiaj | berarma: I'm unsure what overhead/preformance would be lost on translating a virtual hd to writting to the actual disk. My guess is the major bottle neck is the filesystem/disks of the actual host. |
| 19:20.00 | maxyz | Ephexeve: Check this page: https://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x |
| 19:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1461] by debhelper |
| 19:20.05 | Ephexeve | maxyz: Any idea? |
| 19:20.05 | cuco | jhutchins: this machine has kmail 4:4.4.11.1+l10n-3+b1 which does work. On another machine I upgraded and "stuf got borked". On the borked machine I am using testing, fully upgraded. |
| 19:20.07 | jhutchins | mtn: The old settings don't take effect on the new engines, which have different parameters. |
| 19:20.12 | berarma | thanks somiaj, maxyz |
| 19:20.50 | jhutchins | cuco: Yep. A fine example of how testing works. We are starting to know that the upgrade script for the new kmail doesn't work. |
| 19:20.53 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@188-180-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 19:21.02 | *** join/#debian alexei (~amgarchin@p4FD61F68.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:21.14 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 19:21.33 | cuco | jhutchins: ok, so I will not update KDE here yet :) |
| 19:21.37 | *** join/#debian moha_hunt (~moha@209.228.101.254) |
| 19:21.43 | jhutchins | cuco: One user reported that it completely ate all his mail, but I suspect he merely lost the path to it. |
| 19:22.25 | maxyz | cuco: kmail 4.4 is kmail1 and kmail 4.10 is kmail2, they are not exactly compatible. but the kde developers (upstream) are not providing a migration path. |
| 19:22.36 | *** join/#debian asterismo (~asterismo@r186-52-253-144.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 19:22.38 | jhutchins | For me kmail 3.5 - 4 broke my addressbook, so I've quit using kde. |
| 19:22.45 | cuco | jhutchins: happened to me, I just had to feed kmail with a new akonady resource to my old maildir at ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/ |
| 19:23.13 | cuco | maxyz: translation -> I got pooped, ok. |
| 19:23.39 | *** join/#debian Yong (Yong11@77.66.14.254) |
| 19:23.40 | Ephexeve | maxyz: Yeah, tried all, ntohing |
| 19:23.46 | jhutchins | (broken addressbook caused kmail to fail as well since they're more integrated, and it brought down the whole akonadi mess with it.) |
| 19:23.57 | maxyz | cuco: Sorry, I did the upload of kmail2, somehow I wasn't affected. |
| 19:24.29 | *** part/#debian lurky1 (amiguete@unaffiliated/amiguete) |
| 19:24.37 | *** join/#debian alexei_ (~amgarchin@p4FD5689F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:24.42 | jhutchins | That's why we have testing, to expose the new software to more edge cases. |
| 19:24.44 | cuco | maxyz: no problem, not your fault :) |
| 19:24.56 | maxyz | Ephexeve: There is a special firmware for RTL8192U |
| 19:25.03 | cuco | will need to move to thunderbird. or write his own mail client. |
| 19:25.28 | Ephexeve | But I have SE |
| 19:25.45 | *** join/#debian McMAGIC--Copy (~McMAGIC--@gateway/tor-sasl/mcmagic--copy) |
| 19:25.52 | *** join/#debian safejav (~safejav@200.127.117.240) |
| 19:25.58 | jhutchins | cuco: This is probably not going to be a problem that an update will fix since it's the update script that fails. Once they fix it new upgrades won't fail, but you'll have to fix existing already upgraded systems manually. |
| 19:26.12 | *** join/#debian huayra (~ruben@ubuntu/member/hubuntu) |
| 19:27.33 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 19:27.38 | maxyz | Ephexeve: The SE is pci-express |
| 19:27.49 | *** join/#debian mavzuna (~mavzuna@unaffiliated/mavzuna) |
| 19:27.57 | JmZ | so im installing nodejs on my new jessie setup and... there's no npm? NPM comes with node on all other distros, but not debian? |
| 19:28.41 | cuco | jhutchins: then I will first have to understand why email is not been read on my new system (which is another different bug). |
| 19:28.50 | JmZ | i can't find a package anywhere for it and node-npmlog, a package for.. npm logs, has no such dependency other than node its self |
| 19:28.58 | JmZ | so the question is, where on earth is npm |
| 19:29.03 | cuco | wonders if he can share the same maildir with kmail and thunderbird |
| 19:29.44 | *** join/#debian yeats (~chris@unaffiliated/yeats) |
| 19:30.15 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~DARKICEPT@a79-168-154-69.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 19:31.05 | *** join/#debian Noskcaj (~Noskcaj@ubuntu/member/noskcaj) |
| 19:31.11 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 19:31.12 | *** join/#debian tacos1de (~tacos1de@gateway/tor-sasl/tacos1de) |
| 19:31.18 | jhutchins | cuco: With old kmail you could - thunderbird, pine, mutt, whatever. If they've broken that standard then kde is REALLY broken. |
| 19:31.20 | *** join/#debian Axlin (~david@252.142-205-66.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 19:31.32 | jhutchins | cuco: Make backups. |
| 19:31.34 | maxyz | JmZ: there is a npm package in unstable. |
| 19:31.51 | JmZ | maxyz: why not in stable, testing? it is far from new... |
| 19:31.55 | *** join/#debian Axlin (~david@252.142-205-66.ftth.swbr.surewest.net) |
| 19:31.58 | *** join/#debian iPwnd (~ipwn@xxxcnn6216.hospedagemdesites.ws) |
| 19:32.25 | JmZ | npm has been around for a long time, how can it not be on testing |
| 19:32.28 | cuco | jhutchins: please go back in time to when I upgraded this machine and tell me to use btrfs, thanks. (how can I backup the "OS"...?) |
| 19:32.28 | *** join/#debian adminewb (~local@206-55-182-218.usiwireless.com) |
| 19:34.00 | maxyz | JmZ: I stil wonder why are we packaging external package managers that most probably end up messing the users installation, but as you can see, users want them |
| 19:34.03 | jcbbjoe | away |
| 19:34.31 | JmZ | maxyz it isn't exactly a system package manager but rather specific to one particular language, that is why |
| 19:34.38 | *** join/#debian roboman2444 (~roboman24@unaffiliated/roboman2444) |
| 19:34.43 | *** join/#debian ferni (~jarkkot@cl-854.hel-01.fi.sixxs.net) |
| 19:34.45 | JmZ | it makes little sense to only be available in unstable |
| 19:35.01 | cuco | maxyz: I used to build rpms for centos on a debian, was easier since I could also build the debs for our product. |
| 19:35.56 | *** join/#debian kelliott (~kelliott@173-164-141-113-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 19:37.14 | *** join/#debian doleyb (~pwickis@pool-173-48-101-14.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 19:37.55 | *** join/#debian Devastator (~devas@186.214.14.230) |
| 19:38.03 | *** join/#debian bt6 (~bt6@192.12.88.64) |
| 19:38.10 | *** join/#debian Bry8Star (~Bry8Star@gateway/tor-sasl/bry8star) |
| 19:38.23 | adminewb | someone have experience with skype beta2.2 installations? with audio devices? |
| 19:38.26 | maxyz | JmZ: If it only in unstable is because it was not apt to propagate into testing. |
| 19:38.59 | JmZ | maxyz i don't see why, it has been around for year(s). the only change was that it is now (supposed to be) packaged with node |
| 19:39.15 | JmZ | but it seems debian likes splitting things up that are meant to be together |
| 19:39.32 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@78.110.72.221) |
| 19:39.59 | *** join/#debian vladuke_ (~vladuke@78.25.121.27) |
| 19:41.19 | maxyz | JmZ: You can check its bugs in http://bugs.debian.org/npm |
| 19:42.22 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 19:42.23 | *** join/#debian daveeejr (~quassel@ip-92-73.wireless.oberlin.edu) |
| 19:42.32 | *** join/#debian SKyrter (~SKyrter@117-191.198-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 19:43.08 | *** join/#debian ZetaNeta (~LoCoZeNoz@unaffiliated/zetaneta) |
| 19:43.47 | *** join/#debian austeregrim- (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 19:43.50 | mumpitzel | !why is node-npmlog not in testing |
| 19:43.50 | dpkg | node-npmlog is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://packages.qa.debian.org/node-npmlog |
| 19:44.43 | n0c | hey there, how can I determine if the debian package vlc-nox was compiled with the option --enable-v4l ? |
| 19:44.43 | *** join/#debian crackerjackz (~crackerja@unaffiliated/crackerjackz) |
| 19:45.20 | *** join/#debian austeregrim- (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 19:45.35 | *** join/#debian Devastator (~devas@unaffiliated/devastator) |
| 19:45.56 | *** join/#debian alexei_ (~amgarchin@79.214.50.124) |
| 19:49.17 | musca | n0c: apt-get changelog vlc-nox | grep v4l |
| 19:49.28 | *** join/#debian uberdub (~kvirc@24.121.49.32) |
| 19:50.01 | uberdub | what app are people using to create bootable thumb drives? |
| 19:50.21 | SPF | unetbootin |
| 19:50.33 | uberdub | not working |
| 19:50.59 | uberdub | its telling me the file doesnt exist, when it certainly does |
| 19:51.15 | Axlin | Yeah I've always found unetbootin to be hit and miss. I just use dd personally. |
| 19:51.23 | uberdub | dd? |
| 19:51.37 | musca | on Windows? |
| 19:51.42 | *** join/#debian kode101 (~kode101@176.61.33.169) |
| 19:51.46 | zykotick9 | uberdub: using cp or cat is even easier then dd ;) |
| 19:51.58 | jelly-home | !usb install |
| 19:51.58 | bt6 | My clock is a few minutes off so I installed ntp but the time hasn't changed. Does anyone know what I should do next? |
| 19:51.58 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
| 19:52.15 | uberdub | uh ive copied the file to the drive, but the drive isnt bootable |
| 19:52.24 | *** join/#debian kode101 (~kode101@176.61.33.169) |
| 19:52.32 | uberdub | I get "boot error" when I specify bios t boot from it |
| 19:52.50 | zykotick9 | uberdub: are you sure you copied it to the "drive" and NOT a partition on that drive? |
| 19:52.55 | uberdub | yes |
| 19:52.58 | jelly-home | bt6: ntpd service slews the time slowly over a course of couple days, it doesn't step it immediately unless you start it with -g option (it can be added to /etc/default/ntp if you want that) |
| 19:53.06 | *** join/#debian nicexe (~nicexe@91.184.219.141) |
| 19:53.09 | uberdub | its a thumb drive with only one partition |
| 19:53.10 | mumpitzel | uberdub: win32diskimager and yumi (live cds only) |
| 19:53.22 | uberdub | win32?! |
| 19:53.24 | bt6 | jelly-home: I had another computer with the same issue and right after I installed ntp the time changed within a few seconds. |
| 19:53.25 | uberdub | huh? |
| 19:53.35 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 19:53.40 | mumpitzel | uberdub: when you want to do it on windows. when on linux, cp,cat,dd, etc |
| 19:53.57 | uberdub | windows? |
| 19:53.58 | jelly-home | uberdub: which OS are you using to write the image onto the usb stick? |
| 19:54.11 | uberdub | uh this is the debian channel right? |
| 19:54.21 | jelly-home | uberdub: correct |
| 19:54.24 | SPF | you can also buy a usb dvd drive, then you are sure it works all the time |
| 19:54.30 | mumpitzel | uberdub: when you need to write a usb stick with a debian installer, you might not run debian yet... |
| 19:54.32 | uberdub | I wouldnt dirty my machine with winblows malware |
| 19:54.38 | musca | !usb install |
| 19:54.38 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
| 19:54.39 | jelly-home | uberdub: can you answer the question? |
| 19:55.06 | *** join/#debian hasgarion (~hasgarion@mnhm-590e7e6f.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 19:55.33 | uberdub | jelly-home: seems rhetorical. |
| 19:55.40 | jelly-home | uberdub: it is not. |
| 19:55.42 | uberdub | obviously debian |
| 19:56.01 | uberdub | lol |
| 19:56.20 | jelly-home | uberdub: umount the usb stick if it's mounted, and cp the image directly onto /dev/sdc or whatever the stick appeared as |
| 19:56.22 | uberdub | my bad, I thought this was the debian irc channel |
| 19:56.29 | *** join/#debian xrosnight (~quassel@116.76.166.121) |
| 19:56.36 | *** join/#debian naibed (~naibed@a91-156-194-77.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 19:56.40 | uberdub | done that |
| 19:56.51 | uberdub | no worky |
| 19:57.23 | jelly-home | uberdub: what was the exact command you used? |
| 19:57.27 | musca | so, which file are you copying? |
| 19:58.10 | ExeciN | When I boot into wheezy, after a random amount of time (usually more than an hour) this pops "journal commit I/O error" and the system becomes useless. Is my HDD on it's last? |
| 19:58.53 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@31-19-185-115-dynip.superkabel.de) |
| 19:59.00 | *** join/#debian m4ggus (~marcus@unaffiliated/m4ggus) |
| 19:59.51 | musca | !i/o error |
| 19:59.52 | dpkg | from memory, i/o error is if you get i/o errors chances are your medium is bad. Replace your drives or disks, preferably before they eat all your data. Check seating of cables on drives and controllers as well. |
| 20:00.04 | *** join/#debian FreezingCold (~FreezingC@198-91-168-144.cpe.distributel.net) |
| 20:00.52 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@host-88-132-114-184.prtelecom.hu) |
| 20:01.14 | *** join/#debian SmokedCheese (~kvirc@195.91.129.139) |
| 20:01.33 | *** join/#debian D-Chymera (~chymera@mnhm-4d012c8a.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:01.45 | *** join/#debian freedomrun (~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun) |
| 20:02.09 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 20:03.32 | *** join/#debian LEDfan (~quassel@94-226-126-193.access.telenet.be) |
| 20:04.06 | bt6 | jelly-home: I was able to fix it by running ntpdate -u with the debian time server. Thanks. |
| 20:05.31 | jimcooncat | I don't know how to do this, but I'd like to have dpkg tell musca about smartd, it might help him |
| 20:05.59 | zykotick9 | isn't ntpdate the thing you aren't suppose to run, if you have ntp (ntpd) installed? |
| 20:06.13 | musca | hmm? me? |
| 20:06.23 | jimcooncat | !smartd |
| 20:06.24 | dpkg | The smartmontools package provides the smartctl and smartd utilities, used to control/monitor devices supporting "Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology" built into modern ATA and SCSI hard disks. After installation, read /usr/share/doc/smartmontools/README.Debian for initial configuration and upstream recommendations. http://sf.net/apps/trac/smartmontools/wiki/FAQ http://smartmontools.sf.net/ |
| 20:06.35 | *** join/#debian cantoma (~jduro@cpc4-bath5-2-0-cust199.aztw.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 20:06.39 | berarma | zykotick9: supposed to run when? |
| 20:07.06 | jimcooncat | musca smartmontools can tell you how far gone your disks are |
| 20:07.16 | berarma | musca: see and learn |
| 20:07.17 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 20:07.22 | musca | ExeciN: see ^^ |
| 20:07.48 | zykotick9 | berarma: i could be wrong! but isn't ntpdate for one time, time-setting. and bad to run if you have ntp installed? |
| 20:08.30 | berarma | zykotick9: you're right in that ntpdate doesn't need to be run, so why your question? |
| 20:08.39 | *** join/#debian hashashin (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 20:09.19 | zykotick9 | berarma: i wanted clarification on the issue ;) it was an issue for bt6 i believe. |
| 20:09.25 | berarma | zykotick9: sry, I've just read bt6 message |
| 20:09.29 | berarma | :-) |
| 20:09.53 | *** join/#debian kludge` (~comet@unaffiliated/espiral) |
| 20:10.19 | bt6 | Well I installed ntp a few days ago but my time was still off. I just installed ntpdate and ran that command and now my time is correct. |
| 20:10.45 | *** join/#debian `MArceLL` (~MArceLL@84-236-94-77.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 20:11.02 | *** join/#debian antun (~quassel@93-138-113-177.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 20:11.27 | *** join/#debian b2_ (~b2@ip-27-36.powernet.bg) |
| 20:11.30 | *** join/#debian raSter^ (raster@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-dhivjprmtdwmyrdy) |
| 20:11.57 | berarma | bt6: is ntpd running? |
| 20:12.06 | *** join/#debian redarrow_ (~redarrow@unaffiliated/redarrow) |
| 20:12.36 | *** join/#debian antun_ (~quassel@93-138-231-73.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 20:13.04 | Benkinooby | bt6: i'd like to enforce zykotick9 : you have to be extremely carefully with setting your time while running a time setting daemon. some daemons try to adjust the time in a nice manner (the will accelerate or slow down your time, until you are at correect time - so your backups and log and everything will stay sane) |
| 20:13.55 | Benkinooby | bt6: but if you "interrupt" with manual changes, you'll break things even worse. a lot depends on "time deltas" - and those get corrupted if you manually interfere or use an other daemon |
| 20:15.16 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@78.110.73.120) |
| 20:15.16 | Benkinooby | bt6: on top of that, you also have to consider your hardware clock - it is not relevant for the time while your system is UP (afaik) but for the time while your system is down. so if your hardware clock makes troubel (battery maybe?) and you system always starts with its time off you'll have interference again |
| 20:15.27 | *** join/#debian quinso (~crabman@h86-62-100-131.ln.rinet.ru) |
| 20:15.40 | quinso | How can I disable middle mouse button paste? |
| 20:15.44 | bt6 | berarma: Yes |
| 20:15.52 | bt6 | Benkinooby: So would you suggest stopping ntp and keeping ntpdate? |
| 20:15.53 | *** part/#debian adminewb (~local@206-55-182-218.usiwireless.com) |
| 20:16.12 | Benkinooby | bt6: i am not an expert, but i strongly suggest to only run one of them |
| 20:16.31 | babilen | dpkg: ntpdate |
| 20:16.31 | dpkg | ntpdate is an obsolete and unmaintained program to set a system clock via <NTP>. Just install the ntp package instead. Since Debian 5.0 "Lenny", ntp's default configuration files (NTPD_OPTS='-g' in /etc/default/ntp, 'iburst' option for default servers in /etc/ntp.conf) make ntpdate unnecessary. See also <why not ntpdate>. |
| 20:16.53 | Benkinooby | bt6: also try to find the data where thoes daemons keep their logs... if their logs are messued up due to your manual interference they will calculate wront time deltas |
| 20:17.03 | Benkinooby | bt6: and it will take even more time |
| 20:17.24 | *** join/#debian iPwnd (~ipwn@xxxcnn6216.hospedagemdesites.ws) |
| 20:17.26 | *** join/#debian specter (~specter@ip-178-200-208-161.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 20:17.37 | Benkinooby | bt6: my advie: purge both of them - to make sure all their data is gone. then reinstall one of them. i don't know which of those two is more suitable for you |
| 20:17.59 | bt6 | Benkinooby: Okay I'll do that. Thanks. |
| 20:17.59 | Benkinooby | bt6: but be super carefuel about manual interference. that's how i stole myself a day or so |
| 20:18.19 | Benkinooby | bt6: take your time, it might take some time, until your system is "in time" |
| 20:18.26 | Benkinooby | bt6: depending on the implementation |
| 20:18.46 | bt6 | The last time I installed ntp my system time changed within a minute. When I tried it on this computer nothing happened, and it's been a few days since I've done it. |
| 20:18.48 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-67-188-24-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:19.09 | Benkinooby | bt6: was it the same os and same service? |
| 20:19.27 | zinx | bt6: depending on what you use, there's some checks on how far off the time is - if it's more than a certain threshhold, it may not set the time |
| 20:19.40 | Benkinooby | bt6: maybe some option was set, that en/diables that "soft time sync" |
| 20:19.46 | *** join/#debian yoshx (~yoshx@xbn44-2-82-225-226-138.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:20.29 | Benkinooby | bt6: oh yes, that too want zinx said. and then finally you also have a chance to mess up woht your locale |
| 20:20.37 | babilen | Benkinooby: Just set the time manually (with date) to a "reasonable" value that is "close enough" to the real time and then let ntp take care of the rest. |
| 20:20.45 | *** join/#debian phy1729 (~phy1729@unaffiliated/phy1729) |
| 20:20.51 | Benkinooby | babilen: tell that to bt6 |
| 20:21.08 | babilen | bt6: consider yourself informed ;) |
| 20:21.12 | Benkinooby | babilen: but i would have been very grateful for that hin a year ago ;) |
| 20:21.28 | babilen | .o( your clock is that far off ? ) |
| 20:21.52 | Benkinooby | bt6: to finish: you can also mess up wiht your locales that put you in a different time zone... |
| 20:22.34 | Benkinooby | bt6: so make sure that those are correct too- BEFORE! you pester around with setting the time and ntp |
| 20:23.23 | *** join/#debian Kunda (~Kunda@remote.hillcountryconservancy.org) |
| 20:24.19 | *** join/#debian kInOzAwA (~kinozawa@118.100.223.89) |
| 20:24.20 | *** join/#debian kInOzAwA (~kinozawa@linuxforum/member/kInOzAwA) |
| 20:24.24 | babilen | Benkinooby, bt6: A common alternative to ntpdate is running "ntpd -gq" which will allow a larger threshold, set the time and then exit the daemon. Make sure to run "service ntp stop" before that and "service ntp start" afterwards. |
| 20:26.06 | *** join/#debian bmr (~bmr@128.19.187.81.in-addr.arpa) |
| 20:26.15 | *** join/#debian flux242 (~chatzilla@89.204.154.64) |
| 20:26.37 | *** join/#debian zz0 (~zz0@unaffiliated/zz0) |
| 20:27.16 | *** join/#debian bt6 (~bt6@198.151.130.64) |
| 20:28.05 | *** part/#debian uwjesq (~henry@w3.morphium.info) |
| 20:30.14 | *** join/#debian hashashin (~hashashin@unaffiliated/hashashin) |
| 20:30.31 | *** join/#debian dep_ (~marcus@c253-148-70-80.bjare.net) |
| 20:32.42 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@78.110.73.180) |
| 20:33.48 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@78.97.152.65) |
| 20:36.58 | *** join/#debian D-Chymera (~chymera@mnhm-4d012c8a.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:38.09 | *** part/#debian austeregrim- (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 20:38.14 | *** join/#debian austeregrim (~androirc@pool-71-243-209-160.lsanca.btas.verizon.net) |
| 20:38.19 | *** join/#debian gabedwrds (~gabriel@unaffiliated/gabesubdo) |
| 20:38.59 | *** join/#debian Silmarilion (~Silmarili@cable-188-2-243-82.dynamic.sbb.rs) |
| 20:41.50 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 20:42.16 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@78.110.73.233) |
| 20:43.07 | *** part/#debian qrz7 (~pku@ppp-93-104-150-166.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 20:43.30 | *** join/#debian sobkas (~sobkas@193.106.101.71) |
| 20:44.04 | *** join/#debian n2diy (~darryl@75.97.111.112.res-cmts.t132.ptd.net) |
| 20:45.03 | *** join/#debian TJCRI (~chatzilla@148.61.156.95) |
| 20:45.33 | *** join/#debian rmdashrf (~rmdashrf@unaffiliated/rmdashrf) |
| 20:50.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1453] by debhelper |
| 20:50.18 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@g229105182.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 20:50.35 | *** join/#debian iPwnd (~ipwn@xxxcnn6216.hospedagemdesites.ws) |
| 20:52.14 | *** join/#debian simone (~simone@host243-165-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:54.01 | *** join/#debian nullby7e (~null@unaffiliated/nullby7e) |
| 20:54.19 | *** join/#debian Aramur (~arare@213.Red-79-156-36.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:54.34 | *** join/#debian xrosnight (~quassel@116.76.166.121) |
| 20:54.47 | *** join/#debian _p0g0__ (~jason@70-36-196-99.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 20:55.17 | *** join/#debian kelpie (~username@static-81-219-121-23.devs.futuro.pl) |
| 20:55.27 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@cable-178-149-0-183.dynamic.sbb.rs) |
| 20:55.42 | kelpie | why do i need proc and dev in chroot? |
| 20:55.55 | *** join/#debian tvm (~tom@213.192.18.18) |
| 20:56.02 | *** join/#debian TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@unaffiliated/thecoffemaker) |
| 20:57.17 | tremon | kelpie: "you" don't. The programs you want to run inside that chroot might need them though |
| 20:57.24 | n0c | musca: thanks! |
| 20:58.38 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 21:00.27 | zykotick9 | tremon: that's an excellent answer to kelpie btw ;) love it. |
| 21:01.40 | *** join/#debian Bigou_De_ (~Bigou_De@84.5.184.74) |
| 21:01.56 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@78.110.74.49) |
| 21:03.25 | *** join/#debian seekr (~seekr@209.6.201.191) |
| 21:04.36 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leoneof@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 21:04.49 | *** join/#debian disarone (~disa@ip-178-201-89-34.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 21:05.59 | *** join/#debian zod (~zod@smitty.knid.net) |
| 21:06.34 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo1 (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 21:06.59 | *** join/#debian R430R (~demon@46.108.180.9) |
| 21:07.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | hm, mplayer appears to have no manpage anymore |
| 21:07.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | weird |
| 21:08.00 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 21:08.08 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 21:08.09 | *** join/#debian HobGoblin (~jaa@yatima.uukgoblin.net) |
| 21:08.26 | kelpie | tremon: so i don't really need them if i only want apt inside of chroot |
| 21:08.58 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@174.32.161.68) |
| 21:09.34 | *** join/#debian JengYiC (~jengyic@mail.daemonland.org) |
| 21:09.51 | *** join/#debian R430R (~demon@46.108.180.9) |
| 21:09.58 | zykotick9 | kelpie: why don't you tell us? does apt need /proc and /dev? |
| 21:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1446] by debhelper |
| 21:10.08 | tremon | kelpie: many programs rely on some device files like /dev/random or /dev/null. The only way to know what filesystems you need to provide is to try it |
| 21:11.13 | tremon | but unless the chroot is meant as a jail for webservices, do you have a reason /not/ to provide /proc and /sys? |
| 21:11.19 | *** join/#debian TimeCube (~zekesulas@unaffiliated/zekes) |
| 21:11.23 | *** join/#debian daveeejr (~quassel@ip-92-73.wireless.oberlin.edu) |
| 21:11.26 | *** join/#debian Cms-M0ulin (~M0ulin@ANancy-652-1-376-133.w90-13.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:11.31 | zykotick9 | CutMeOwnThroat: on my system, "man mplayer2" has lots of info... |
| 21:11.54 | *** join/#debian _p0g0___ (~jason@70-36-196-99.dsl.static.sonic.net) |
| 21:11.59 | kelpie | zykotick9: idk, i guess not |
| 21:12.24 | *** join/#debian Zekah_ (~Zekah@i.did.it.justforlulz.fr) |
| 21:12.24 | *** join/#debian ferni_ (~jarkkot@cl-854.hel-01.fi.sixxs.net) |
| 21:12.33 | zykotick9 | kelpie: tbo, i'd think it would? ... |
| 21:12.47 | *** join/#debian Kyan` (~kyan@host207-39-dynamic.51-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:12.48 | Kyan` | re |
| 21:12.51 | *** join/#debian r3m (~r3m@irssi/user/r3m) |
| 21:13.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | zykotick9, not on mine. I have mplayer2 installed , but only "man mplayer" gives anything... I know they're kind of mixing manpages between mencoder and mplayer... but was lacking (found it via web) -noskip in that page |
| 21:13.05 | zod | I'm running into trouble while upgrading because of packages from other sources. mysql-client-5.5 contains 'mysqlcheck' which is also in mysql-client-core-5.5 so i'm trying to remove mysql-client-core-5.5 while upgrading the other package but this also fails. Any hints? |
| 21:13.16 | *** join/#debian xrosnight_ (~quassel@116.76.166.121) |
| 21:13.37 | *** join/#debian cardiel_ (~cardiel@qubik.org) |
| 21:14.07 | *** join/#debian BotaniCar (~BotaniCar@93-141-110-239.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 21:14.09 | *** join/#debian Werring (~Werring@2a01:238:43d7:c401:bad:cafe:bad:c0de) |
| 21:14.11 | *** join/#debian alexei_ (~amgarchin@p4FD6327C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:14.20 | zykotick9 | CutMeOwnThroat: i'm NOT a fan of the mplayer vs. mplayer2 stuff in debian TBH. but i believe that's mainly my own fault on this box, due to using deb-multimedia. |
| 21:14.24 | *** join/#debian dep__ (~marcus@c253-148-70-80.bjare.net) |
| 21:14.24 | *** join/#debian SPFhome (~spf@109.237.208.181) |
| 21:14.26 | *** join/#debian nickmoeck (~nickmoeck@204.12.219.210) |
| 21:14.31 | *** join/#debian mczhb (~mczhb@p5B3DF052.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:14.40 | *** join/#debian apollolu1e (~marc@pil75-2-78-192-155-48.fbxo.proxad.net) |
| 21:14.54 | *** join/#debian Tjati (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/tjati) |
| 21:15.12 | *** join/#debian zoolook1 (~zoolook@201-213-76-109.net.prima.net.ar) |
| 21:15.12 | *** join/#debian Lassi- (~lasse@easypeasylemonsqz.net) |
| 21:15.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | zykotick9, I have multimedia in my sources.list but commented out. not sure I've used it since wheezy |
| 21:15.44 | *** join/#debian dgfdgf (~MArceLL@84-236-94-77.pool.digikabel.hu) |
| 21:15.56 | *** join/#debian D-Boy (~D-Boy@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 21:15.58 | *** join/#debian Azzy (~Maren@76-196-236-118.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:16.20 | *** join/#debian moha_hunt (~moha@209.228.101.254) |
| 21:16.25 | *** join/#debian jhutchins (~jonathan@64.151.37.66) |
| 21:16.44 | *** join/#debian oufo_ (~ET@130.43.41.106.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 21:17.35 | *** join/#debian mullein_ (~mullein@li257-145.members.linode.com) |
| 21:17.47 | *** join/#debian AsadH (~AsadH@unaffiliated/asadh) |
| 21:18.37 | *** join/#debian dizzylizzy (~aubrey@unaffiliated/aubreyr) |
| 21:18.57 | *** join/#debian s00pcan (~chris@108-208-64-149.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:18.59 | *** join/#debian Selveste1_Laptop (~hds@31.25.23.230) |
| 21:19.11 | *** join/#debian basiclaser (basiclaser@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-csegqtdfidnyhuwr) |
| 21:19.24 | *** join/#debian alexei_ (~amgarchin@p4FD6327C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:19.28 | *** join/#debian _bt (~bt@77.240.12.157) |
| 21:19.28 | *** join/#debian PaulePanter (~paul@mail.gw90.de) |
| 21:19.28 | *** join/#debian Arroyo1010 (~squid-fre@109-93-21-101.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 21:19.28 | *** join/#debian milosn (~milosn@cable-178-149-0-183.dynamic.sbb.rs) |
| 21:19.31 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 21:19.45 | *** join/#debian SerajewelKS (devnull@cl-477.chi-02.us.sixxs.net) |
| 21:19.56 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 21:20.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1430] by debhelper |
| 21:20.01 | *** join/#debian el-linedash (~linedash@2a01:a8:ff01:0:7254:d2ff:fe7b:2090) |
| 21:20.58 | *** join/#debian Arroyo1010 (~squid-fre@unaffiliated/arroyo1010) |
| 21:20.59 | *** join/#debian chattr (~regnad_kc@72.239.113.237) |
| 21:22.16 | *** join/#debian peterS (~peter@wire.p12n.org) |
| 21:22.58 | *** join/#debian salsa_3 (3e577752@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.87.119.82) |
| 21:23.09 | *** join/#debian Yakko (~quassel@187-54-242-218.bsace702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 21:23.48 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@78.97.152.65) |
| 21:24.21 | *** join/#debian WormFood (~wormfood@183.14.16.55) |
| 21:25.07 | *** join/#debian alkumaish (~mako@78.110.74.124) |
| 21:25.22 | *** join/#debian zw01 (~zev@107-199-61-12.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:25.49 | tremon | is anyone using encryption with btrfs? |
| 21:25.54 | *** join/#debian darknyan (~darknyan@unaffiliated/darknyan) |
| 21:26.06 | *** join/#debian tacos1de (~tacos1de@gateway/tor-sasl/tacos1de) |
| 21:26.22 | tremon | from what I can see, the recommended way is to use dm-crypt underneath, but that implies managing encryption keys for each disk separately. And if I use lvm on luks on md, I don't see the point of using btrfs |
| 21:27.00 | *** join/#debian marlinc (~marlinc@ip565fa73c.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 21:29.12 | *** join/#debian KeyboardNotFound (~KeyboardN@unaffiliated/keyboardnotfound) |
| 21:29.19 | *** join/#debian winsen (~asulil@lab75-3-82-235-27-127.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:29.28 | *** join/#debian nosXw (~Icedove@r190-134-189-170.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 21:29.53 | *** join/#debian can-o-worms (~patrick@llo1155652.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 21:30.43 | *** join/#debian nosXw (~Icedove@r190-134-189-170.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 21:31.14 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 21:32.18 | *** join/#debian nosXw (~Icedove@r190-134-189-170.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 21:33.02 | *** join/#debian buibex (~buibex@78.97.152.65) |
| 21:33.38 | *** join/#debian _BJFreeman (~bjfree@210.sub-75-233-10.myvzw.com) |
| 21:34.16 | *** join/#debian Corerris_ (~ribe@c83-255-131-198.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 21:36.46 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~daniel@HSI-KBW-091-089-154-223.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 21:37.34 | *** join/#debian felco (~felco@177.33.25.120) |
| 21:40.16 | kelpie | zykotick9: it needed proc and dev only for grub install |
| 21:40.35 | kelpie | what is obvious |
| 21:41.18 | *** join/#debian amphi (~amphi@unaffiliated/amphi) |
| 21:43.38 | *** join/#debian can-o-worms (~patrick@llo1155652.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 21:43.42 | *** join/#debian anonnumberanon (~anonnumbe@216.37.105.20) |
| 21:43.43 | *** join/#debian pippo (~piipo@host26-92-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:43.55 | pippo | hi |
| 21:44.19 | *** join/#debian cha0sgame (~cha0sgame@unaffiliated/builder) |
| 21:45.05 | *** join/#debian jasonwert (~w3rt@96-42-150-164.dhcp.trcy.mi.charter.com) |
| 21:45.14 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 21:46.12 | *** join/#debian Berry6510 (~Berry@5356AEE3.cm-6-7c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 21:46.38 | *** join/#debian kode101 (~kode101@176.61.33.169) |
| 21:46.51 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~daniel@HSI-KBW-091-089-154-223.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 21:47.31 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) |
| 21:47.38 | *** part/#debian pippo (~piipo@host26-92-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 21:48.10 | *** join/#debian iderik (~idk@h-209-13.a197.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 21:50.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1417] by debhelper |
| 21:52.06 | *** join/#debian ZetaNeta (~LoCoZeNoz@unaffiliated/zetaneta) |
| 21:55.58 | *** join/#debian AJ_Z0 (~AJ_Z0@pdpc/supporter/professional/ajz0) |
| 21:56.20 | *** join/#debian HoloIRCUser (~holoirc@net-2-32-85-7.cust.dsl.teletu.it) |
| 21:56.39 | *** part/#debian AJ_Z0 (~AJ_Z0@pdpc/supporter/professional/ajz0) |
| 21:56.48 | *** join/#debian AJ_Z0 (~AJ_Z0@pdpc/supporter/professional/ajz0) |
| 21:59.43 | Kyan` | someone's alive? |
| 21:59.56 | mtn | Kyan`: nope |
| 22:00.10 | Kyan` | mtn, do you know an easy programming language? |
| 22:00.12 | mtn | Kyan`: only dead people here |
| 22:00.22 | Kyan` | lol |
| 22:00.22 | mtn | Kyan`: I don't know any programming |
| 22:01.29 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 22:01.38 | basiclaser | where can i find my applications? I need to choose an application to open a file with |
| 22:01.58 | Rydekull | Kyan`: HQ9+, I learned it yesterday. I know it completely by now |
| 22:01.58 | *** join/#debian l10nh3x (~l10nh3x@24.114.93.81) |
| 22:02.11 | mtn | basiclaser: hit the super key (windows key) |
| 22:02.14 | *** join/#debian hasgarion (~hasgarion@HSI-KBW-046-005-000-093.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 22:02.16 | Kyan` | HQ9+? |
| 22:02.24 | Rydekull | the only difficult part about it is remmebering its name and spelling it correctly |
| 22:02.33 | Kyan` | can someone develope linux applications with it? |
| 22:02.36 | *** join/#debian ferni (~jarkkot@cl-854.hel-01.fi.sixxs.net) |
| 22:03.18 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 22:03.39 | jhutchins | basiclaser: Most of them are in /usr/bin |
| 22:03.44 | Kyan` | asd |
| 22:03.51 | Kyan` | Rydekull, totally useless |
| 22:03.52 | Kyan` | :\ |
| 22:03.58 | jhutchins | basiclaser: That dialog that just shows the filesystem instead of the app menu is a pain. |
| 22:04.18 | Rydekull | Kyan`: its not |
| 22:04.35 | *** join/#debian nse (~leo@177.134.217.112) |
| 22:05.18 | *** join/#debian whlarking (~whlarking@177.18.79.49) |
| 22:05.20 | *** join/#debian serjs (~serjs@79.164.31.179) |
| 22:05.38 | *** join/#debian UnknownSage (~UnknownSa@triband-mum-59.182.172.96.mtnl.net.in) |
| 22:06.09 | basiclaser | jhutchins: thanks i scanned bin but didnt find the program i was looking for (transmission) |
| 22:07.20 | *** join/#debian seekr (~seekr@209.6.201.191) |
| 22:07.51 | *** join/#debian abailarri (~abailarri@92.59.103.99) |
| 22:08.18 | up365 | basiclaser, look in synaptic, transmission, properties,installed files |
| 22:08.40 | abailarri | Hello. I'm trying to configure a vhost of apache but it not works. I created the file in sites-available, I enabled the site and I restarted apache, but not. Anyone can help me please¿ |
| 22:09.50 | *** join/#debian x2_4_16_256 (~Thunderbi@cpe-184-57-58-33.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 22:09.50 | *** join/#debian mpkossen (~mpkossen@kos.quateria.net) |
| 22:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1402] by debhelper |
| 22:10.05 | *** join/#debian x2_4_16_256 (~Thunderbi@cpe-184-57-58-33.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 22:10.27 | *** join/#debian l10nh3x (~l10nh3x@24.114.93.81) |
| 22:11.23 | *** join/#debian kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 22:11.36 | *** join/#debian causasui (~causa@wikipedia/causa-sui) |
| 22:12.19 | xand | abailarri: sounds like your file is not correct |
| 22:12.34 | xand | abailarri: what does it do instead of working? |
| 22:12.34 | *** part/#debian EstebanMonge (~emonge@200.110.251.210) |
| 22:12.52 | *** join/#debian jm__ (~john@CPEbcc81009c7dc-CMbcc81009c7d9.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 22:12.58 | *** join/#debian sephii (~sylvain@85-218-65-62.dclient.lsne.ch) |
| 22:13.00 | abailarri | what file xand, the vhost configuration? |
| 22:13.24 | *** join/#debian well_laid_lawn (~Jean-luc@d58-106-18-163.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 22:13.51 | *** join/#debian wissem (~wissem@unaffiliated/wissem) |
| 22:13.57 | xand | yes... |
| 22:14.18 | abailarri | this is my vhost file http://paste.debian.net/39762/ |
| 22:14.25 | abailarri | I believe that all is correct |
| 22:14.47 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@adaptive.cs.unm.edu) |
| 22:15.54 | *** join/#debian darsie (~darsie@91-119-214-109.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 22:16.13 | sephii | hey there, I'm having a strange issue with logrotate: since i upgraded my server to wheezy, my logs don't get rotated anymore. I pasted the structure of my /var/log directory and the output of logrotate here: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/151fd882/ any hint is welcome |
| 22:16.20 | *** join/#debian MrGeneral (~MrGeneral@bl22-224-84.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 22:17.55 | *** join/#debian ratcheer (~tim@unaffiliated/ratcheer) |
| 22:18.08 | xand | abailarri: and what happens when you try to access it? and what URL are you using? |
| 22:18.26 | *** join/#debian edju (~edju@75-39-106-129.lightspeed.dtrtmi.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:18.34 | abailarri | i'm writing in the url "abailarri" |
| 22:18.41 | abailarri | not get any page |
| 22:18.56 | abailarri | shows the firefox error |
| 22:19.43 | sephii | abailarri: did you add the host to your /etc/hosts file? |
| 22:19.48 | xand | what error? anyway I bet it's a DNS issue, nothing to do with the webserver |
| 22:19.54 | *** part/#debian ratcheer (~tim@unaffiliated/ratcheer) |
| 22:20.18 | *** join/#debian Aiox (~Aiox@cpe-5c969d6d1af1.cpe.cableonda.net) |
| 22:20.21 | abailarri | sephii: yes |
| 22:20.31 | xand | what error is it then? |
| 22:20.33 | *** join/#debian iPwnd (~ipwn@xxxcnn6216.hospedagemdesites.ws) |
| 22:20.54 | abailarri | xand: returns me the http://www.website-unavailable.com website |
| 22:21.02 | xand | what |
| 22:21.39 | sephii | abailarri: have you restarted your browser? if you tried to access it before adding it to your hosts file, it might have cached the DNS result |
| 22:21.50 | *** join/#debian GSport (~root@188.250.176.2) |
| 22:21.54 | abailarri | oo, try it |
| 22:21.58 | xand | opendns is fundamentally broken as you can see |
| 22:22.01 | *** join/#debian jordilopezamat (~jordi@190.244.55.163) |
| 22:22.29 | abailarri | sephii: restarting |
| 22:22.47 | abailarri | sorry. Always the same error :S |
| 22:23.15 | sephii | abailarri: try to run "curl http://abailarri" on the command line and check the output |
| 22:23.28 | *** join/#debian cian1500ww (~cian@unaffiliated/cian1500ww) |
| 22:23.29 | Rydekull | abailarri: grep abailarri /etc/hosts ; host abailarri |
| 22:23.33 | Rydekull | abailarri: into pastebin |
| 22:23.47 | *** join/#debian JotaK (~Gecko@unaffiliated/jotak) |
| 22:24.51 | abailarri | Rydekull: problem solved |
| 22:25.32 | *** join/#debian can-o-worms (~patrick@llo1155652.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 22:25.55 | Rydekull | good |
| 22:26.29 | *** join/#debian rustyrazorblade (~rustyrazo@rrcs-76-79-124-126.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 22:27.17 | *** join/#debian JengYiC (~jengyic@mail.daemonland.org) |
| 22:32.36 | *** join/#debian guampa (~guampa@gateway/tor-sasl/guampa) |
| 22:32.45 | *** part/#debian zod (~zod@smitty.knid.net) |
| 22:32.51 | *** join/#debian c0ncealed (~c0ncealed@gateway/tor-sasl/c0ncealed) |
| 22:33.28 | *** join/#debian tattoli (~wat@pool-173-70-26-142.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:34.07 | *** join/#debian cornelinux (~koelbel@2001:4dd0:ff00:8fa7:70dc:a857:baa6:fb4a) |
| 22:35.00 | *** join/#debian rgwu (~rgwu@69.69.205.34) |
| 22:35.53 | *** join/#debian thingy (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/thingy) |
| 22:36.29 | *** join/#debian kdub (~kdub@ubuntu/member/kdub) |
| 22:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1395] by debhelper |
| 22:40.20 | *** join/#debian nanoform (~nanoform@46.246.116.147) |
| 22:40.43 | *** join/#debian lh_ (~lh@66.196.14.104) |
| 22:40.45 | lh_ | Hello |
| 22:41.25 | *** part/#debian thingy (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/thingy) |
| 22:42.05 | *** join/#debian thingy (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/thingy) |
| 22:42.37 | *** join/#debian nl278 (~nl278@cbza.pl) |
| 22:43.41 | *** join/#debian zeta- (~nick@129.109.90.146.dyn.plus.net) |
| 22:46.27 | *** join/#debian jordilopezamat (~jordi@190.244.55.163) |
| 22:46.38 | *** join/#debian kdub (~kdub@user-0c9h9vs.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 22:46.38 | *** join/#debian kdub (~kdub@ubuntu/member/kdub) |
| 22:47.19 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~daniel@HSI-KBW-091-089-154-223.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 22:49.30 | *** part/#debian thingy (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/thingy) |
| 22:50.08 | *** join/#debian tormen__ (~me@no-panic.eu) |
| 22:52.13 | *** join/#debian anonnumberanon (~anonnumbe@216.37.105.20) |
| 22:52.20 | *** join/#debian uuni (~Jellyfish@c-69-136-41-212.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 22:53.04 | *** join/#debian githogori_ (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:54.13 | nl278 | on pentium3 450mhz watching movies on ubuntu was almost impossible. On debian jessie there is no problem |
| 22:54.20 | *** part/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@188-180-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 22:55.13 | *** join/#debian githogori_ (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:55.51 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@233.58.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 22:56.33 | *** join/#debian Aiox (~Aiox@cpe-5c969d6d1af1.cpe.cableonda.net) |
| 22:57.23 | *** join/#debian githogori_ (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 22:58.52 | edju | In an attempt to get out from under kmail2, I installed icedove and the export/imort addon. But. despite much googling, cannot find where kmail2 stored mail. Any advice appreciated. |
| 22:59.35 | *** join/#debian githogori_ (~githogori@c-50-156-57-127.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:01.00 | *** join/#debian x-treme (~x-treme@unaffiliated/x-treme) |
| 23:01.26 | *** join/#debian caravel (~caravel@83.230.147.44) |
| 23:01.28 | gnarface | edju: i don't know anything about kmail2 but did you try in ~/.kmail and maybe liike, ~/.local/share/kmail or something? |
| 23:01.52 | *** join/#debian tormen__ (~me@no-panic.eu) |
| 23:01.57 | gnarface | edju: in general most programs put per-user data in a directory in the top level of your home that is named starting with a "." |
| 23:01.59 | *** join/#debian githogori__ (~githogori@adsl-66-123-22-146.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 23:02.24 | gnarface | edju: the system mail spool is in /var/spool/mail though |
| 23:02.57 | *** join/#debian thingy (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/thingy) |
| 23:03.52 | *** join/#debian tormen__ (~me@no-panic.eu) |
| 23:03.54 | *** join/#debian solution (solution@144.76.77.158) |
| 23:03.55 | thingy | Sorry for disconnects/joins. Thunderbird's IRC chat feature is cumbersome. |
| 23:04.47 | *** join/#debian Roenie (~Roenie@D978E338.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 23:05.04 | edju | gnarface, I may have found it in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/. Will know in a few. |
| 23:05.57 | *** part/#debian zeta- (~nick@129.109.90.146.dyn.plus.net) |
| 23:06.02 | *** join/#debian f8l (~f8l@87-205-67-129.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 23:07.30 | *** join/#debian rustyrazorblade (~rustyrazo@rrcs-76-79-124-126.west.biz.rr.com) |
| 23:07.50 | gnarface | edju: looks very promising |
| 23:08.35 | *** join/#debian f8l (~f8l@87-205-67-129.adsl.inetia.pl) |
| 23:08.55 | Guest32515 | vuze hang on startup |
| 23:09.29 | edju | gnarface, That's odd - senr-mail dir has msgs, but inbox is empty. |
| 23:09.52 | edju | *senr*sent |
| 23:10.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1384] by debhelper |
| 23:10.30 | gnarface | edju: unfortunately i'm not sure what format icedove/thunderbird stores mail in, much less kmail2 |
| 23:10.50 | gnarface | edju: but kmail2 looks like its a kde desktop suite tool, mabye the documentation for it will be near the kde documentation somewhere? |
| 23:10.52 | *** join/#debian kdub (~kdub@user-0c9h9vs.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:10.53 | *** join/#debian kdub (~kdub@ubuntu/member/kdub) |
| 23:11.39 | *** join/#debian gilesw_ (uid12365@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rrehqnyjxhonbigv) |
| 23:13.51 | *** join/#debian Kaede (~Kaede@unaffiliated/kaede) |
| 23:15.00 | *** join/#debian kelpie (~username@static-81-219-121-23.devs.futuro.pl) |
| 23:15.03 | *** join/#debian SporkWitch (~SporkWitc@cpe-67-247-128-123.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 23:15.10 | *** join/#debian MrCoffee (~coffee@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 23:15.13 | edju | gnarface, Who knows? Will have to keep looking, I guess. Documentation? For KDE? It sucks! |
| 23:15.19 | *** join/#debian ZetaNeta (~LoCoZeNoz@unaffiliated/zetaneta) |
| 23:15.27 | *** join/#debian jordilopezamat (~jordi@186.123.133.20) |
| 23:15.33 | *** join/#debian Selveste1 (~hds@0x3e2c871d.mobile.telia.dk) |
| 23:15.58 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leoneof@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 23:19.27 | *** join/#debian iqualfragile_ (~iqualfrag@unaffiliated/iqualfragile) |
| 23:20.30 | *** join/#debian BostonMA1776 (~lh@66.196.14.104) |
| 23:21.03 | *** join/#debian goly (~goly@89-68-110-157.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 23:21.52 | *** join/#debian colonolGron (~j@p5DCAAAEB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:22.39 | *** join/#debian JengYiC (~jengyic@mail.daemonland.org) |
| 23:23.55 | *** join/#debian sgmac (~sgmac@80.174.113.238.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 23:24.50 | *** join/#debian socomm (~socomm@96-40-132-102.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 23:26.04 | *** join/#debian joar (~joar@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 23:26.16 | *** join/#debian moetunes (~Jean-luc@d58-106-18-163.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 23:27.02 | *** join/#debian deximat (~deximat@cable-188-2-165-196.dynamic.sbb.rs) |
| 23:27.24 | *** join/#debian Mysterytrain (~George@host-44-193-169-209.midco.net) |
| 23:27.42 | *** join/#debian Streusel (~Streusel@unaffiliated/streusel) |
| 23:28.22 | *** join/#debian dorito_125 (~dorito_12@108-71-149-228.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:28.28 | *** join/#debian marceloamorim (~marcelo@189-90-192-72.isimples.com.br) |
| 23:29.49 | *** join/#debian noisy (~alex@nat-128-84-124-0-496.cit.cornell.edu) |
| 23:30.17 | *** join/#debian jcbbjoe (~jcbjoe@c-50-173-42-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:30.46 | *** join/#debian jm__ (~john@CPEbcc81009c7dc-CMbcc81009c7d9.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:32.13 | *** join/#debian javier__ (javier@pasanda.collabora.co.uk) |
| 23:32.20 | *** join/#debian kdub (~kdub@ubuntu/member/kdub) |
| 23:33.02 | *** join/#debian MrHotsauce (~NeedleInY@c-67-173-96-28.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 23:33.18 | *** join/#debian sobkas (~sobkas@193.106.101.71) |
| 23:35.57 | *** join/#debian aquaticape (~aquaticap@CPE687f74014dbb-CMbc1401e5dcd0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 23:36.24 | *** join/#debian winsen (~asulil@lab75-3-82-235-27-127.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:36.34 | noisy | has anyone had steam stop working lately? It was working earlier today. |
| 23:37.02 | *** join/#debian jordilopezamat (~jordi@190.244.141.54) |
| 23:37.43 | dispersed | u need to feed it more logs |
| 23:37.58 | dispersed | it's a locomotive |
| 23:38.29 | noisy | Should I pastebin my logfiles? The command-line errors seem pretty useless. |
| 23:38.41 | *** join/#debian theslow1 (~theslow1@wireless-gw-1.tcc.on.ca) |
| 23:39.35 | *** join/#debian Guest43583 (~jaa@unaffiliated/uukgoblin) |
| 23:40.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1390] by debhelper |
| 23:40.53 | *** join/#debian witchmaster (~Bananaram@p5B0B1507.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:41.57 | *** join/#debian sylon1 (~sylon@ppp118-209-70-28.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) |
| 23:44.24 | *** join/#debian kmels (~kmels@168.234.49.90) |
| 23:45.54 | *** join/#debian l10nh3x (~l10nh3x@199.180.98.158) |
| 23:45.56 | *** join/#debian Benkinooby (~benedict@unaffiliated/benkinooby) |
| 23:46.12 | Benkinooby | hi, is it in any way dangerous to have an @ in filenames? |
| 23:47.46 | *** join/#debian dnai23 (~daniel@HSI-KBW-091-089-154-223.hsi2.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 23:48.26 | *** join/#debian dex90 (~dex90@host-92-9-158-124.as43234.net) |
| 23:48.58 | *** join/#debian leoleo11 (~leo@static-200-105-216-51.acelerate.net) |
| 23:48.59 | *** join/#debian mullein (~mullein@unaffiliated/mullein) |
| 23:49.27 | leoleo11 | hello |
| 23:49.32 | noisy | Benkinooby: shouldn't be. |
| 23:49.40 | leoleo11 | how can i install twin from sudo apt-get? |
| 23:50.35 | Benkinooby | noisy: thx |
| 23:50.40 | *** join/#debian LethalTeamX (~LethalTea@app10.chatmosphere.org) |
| 23:50.45 | Brigo | leoleo11: what is twin? |
| 23:50.48 | LethalTeamX | Hello |
| 23:50.51 | Benkinooby | noisy: i'll come back and blame you if sh*t hits the van ;) |
| 23:50.59 | Benkinooby | s/if/when |
| 23:51.14 | leoleo11 | Brigo: its a Text mode WINdow environme |
| 23:51.52 | leoleo11 | i can only find it through debians web page but not through apt-get |
| 23:52.02 | leoleo11 | i want to use only command line from now on |
| 23:52.37 | Brigo | i cant find it in debian with apt ... |
| 23:53.22 | *** join/#debian winsen (~asulil@lab75-3-82-235-27-127.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:53.46 | noisy | Brigo: me neither |
| 23:53.47 | Brigo | leoleo11: can you paste the link, please? |
| 23:53.56 | *** join/#debian badiane_ka (~gdurand@74.72.183.248) |
| 23:54.00 | leoleo11 | sure |
| 23:54.01 | leoleo11 | http://archive.debian.net/sarge/utils/twin |
| 23:55.14 | Brigo | leoleo11: this is sarge, very old version of debian. |
| 23:56.17 | leoleo11 | Brigo: is there a new version? |
| 23:57.25 | Brigo | leoleo11: yes, but not in debian: http://sourceforge.net/projects/twin/files/twin/0.6.2/ |
| 23:57.50 | leoleo11 | its free software right? |
| 23:58.32 | *** join/#debian darsie (~darsie@91-119-214-109.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 23:58.58 | *** join/#debian ZetaNeta (~LoCoZeNoz@unaffiliated/zetaneta) |
| 23:59.08 | *** join/#debian ppradhan (~Adium@ip72-204-17-67.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 23:59.12 | *** join/#debian Selveste1 (~hds@31.25.23.230) |
| 23:59.18 | leoleo11 | as in freedom |
| 23:59.24 | *** join/#debian adfaf (adfaf@unaffiliated/voxadam) |
| 23:59.38 | *** join/#debian iPwnd (~ipwn@xxxcnn6216.hospedagemdesites.ws) |