| 00:00.06 | crumb | i don't even have a bits/ directory in /usr/include |
| 00:02.55 | zophy | actually it is in the cpu subdirectory |
| 00:03.55 | zophy | mine is /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/bits/predefs.h |
| 00:04.11 | crumb | it's not x86 |
| 00:04.12 | crumb | it's arm |
| 00:04.40 | unclezipper | crumb: Are you running ARM, or just building for it? |
| 00:04.48 | crumb | both |
| 00:05.24 | zophy | /usr/include/arm-linux-gnueabi/bits/predefs.h or something similar |
| 00:05.57 | crumb | hmm, it's there |
| 00:06.00 | crumb | k |
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| 00:06.15 | crumb | but i dunno why it's not finding it |
| 00:06.22 | zophy | funny there is no link in /usr/include |
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| 00:07.38 | unclezipper | crumb: "man ln" and make a link so the compiler will stop its bitching... I have to do that frequently |
| 00:07.44 | diytto | does anybody know how it would be possible to recover overwritten files |
| 00:07.46 | crumb | yeah, i got it |
| 00:07.51 | crumb | thanks |
| 00:07.59 | unclezipper | Alrighty, great |
| 00:08.14 | diytto | basically i ran a sftp command on the local server thinking i was connecting to the other server |
| 00:08.16 | unclezipper | diytto: Theoretically, yes, but practically no |
| 00:08.30 | diytto | it set every file to 0 |
| 00:08.36 | diytto | same name, no data |
| 00:09.02 | unclezipper | There are several programs available for things like this, but with no guarantee it will work |
| 00:09.10 | diytto | i don't need a guarantee |
| 00:09.13 | diytto | just a hope |
| 00:10.21 | diytto | unclezipper: any help would be awesome |
| 00:10.25 | unclezipper | It's a little over a year old, but have a look at this: http://www.linuxforu.com/2012/05/how-to-recover-deleted-files-linux-1/ |
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| 00:11.03 | crumb | success! :) |
| 00:11.19 | unclezipper | You might want to research Linux data recovery before you try to do anything. I would help but I'm afraid of giving you incorrect advice |
| 00:11.31 | unclezipper | That's a sticky topic |
| 00:12.11 | diytto | unclezipper: i only have shell access |
| 00:13.00 | diytto | it's just one directory of data that i need |
| 00:14.00 | unclezipper | diytto: Do you have physical access to the computer? |
| 00:14.05 | diytto | no |
| 00:14.09 | diytto | it's a server |
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| 00:15.13 | unclezipper | Dang |
| 00:15.25 | diytto | yeah |
| 00:15.30 | diytto | command line access only |
| 00:16.12 | unclezipper | Hang on, then |
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| 00:19.47 | unclezipper | diytto: http://www.linux.org/threads/undelete-files-on-linux-systems.4316/ |
| 00:19.56 | unclezipper | Also http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk |
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| 00:23.27 | Freeder | hello, how can I tell, locally, if my nfs server is listening for connections? |
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| 00:23.48 | Freeder | I can't connect from a remote client, and I would think i have not set up the server properly |
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| 00:24.05 | diytto | NETSPLIT |
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| 00:26.50 | Freeder | so I guess the better question.. is there a way to see what shares an nfs server is offering, locally? |
| 00:26.54 | obake | Wow this is taking forever lol |
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| 00:27.36 | obake | Is there something that I can change so that the end of messages dont get cut off? I can see them when I highlight the line, it's just really annoying. Is that just an IRC thing? |
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| 00:31.51 | toasterofmuppets | I have an ultra strange harddisk related problem: after grub the (IDE) system drive seems to be properly initialized and put into dma/100 mode, shortly after it throws an error, loses the drive, then softresets and tries again in a lower dma mode, after those are exhausted it falls back and succeeds. |
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| 00:32.26 | toasterofmuppets | this delays my startup by lots of time |
| 00:32.37 | toasterofmuppets | i am going to post a log |
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| 00:37.01 | toasterofmuppets | http://paste.debian.net/44975 |
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| 00:38.16 | toasterofmuppets | its at 32.832045 |
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| 00:44.40 | hesco | I've been building an NFS server, serving two load-balanced nodes on two different sites, in both a QA and a production environment, eight nodes in all. We deployed to production on the first site last night. But when I started to do the deed on the other (larger) site today, I ran into a permissions issue. I'm using a puppet manifest to handle the details, but it repeatedly fails to chown www-data: the path to my mounted NFS share, a |
| 00:44.42 | hesco | lthough exactly the same code worked last night on the other site. The directory of concern is owned by www-data on the NFS server itself, and www-data has id=33 on the NFS server and on every one of the eight nodes. On this site, things are owned by nobody:, last night's site, things are owned by root:. I tried bypassing the puppet manifest and manually running a chown on the node, but got back: "chown: changing ownership of `/var/w |
| 00:44.44 | hesco | ww/files/oursite/sites/all/files': Invalid argument". Can anyone please offer guidance on how to overcome this? We have a deployment window in 75 minutes and repeated and various web searches during the day have failed to turn up any ideas on how to make this work. |
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| 00:59.06 | obake | So I'm switching from stable to testing, the terminal has been knocking it out, it got to processing triggers for python-support and then my command line came up, is it done or did it just fuck up |
| 00:59.28 | abrotman | try to do the upgrade again, see if it tries to upgrade more packages |
| 01:00.57 | obake | I tried, when I hit enter it just goes to a new line |
| 01:01.01 | obake | Uh oh |
| 01:02.23 | module000 | obake: back up anything you need at this point, better safe than sorry |
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| 01:02.40 | module000 | obake: (not just your /home, but any custom goodies in /etc and the like) |
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| 01:06.11 | obake | http://paste.debian.net/44981/ |
| 01:06.13 | obake | halp |
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| 01:09.06 | obake | I think because I opened synaptic to look through the packages when I gave it root I stopped whatever was going on in the terminal |
| 01:09.38 | themill | obake: please stick to one channel |
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| 01:09.57 | obake | sorry |
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| 01:16.20 | peterrooney | obake: from the look of the paste, you have told grep to grep what you type at standard input. type ^D to get back to prompt. |
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| 01:47.27 | gnarface | i'm trying to figure out how to send a wake on lan packet to a 32-bit soyo dragon Ksomething or another (<2ghz 32-bit athlon board with onboard ethernet) |
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| 01:48.03 | gnarface | is this only possible with the some windows software they provided on a cdrom, or can i just add some flags to ping? |
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| 01:48.18 | abrotman | there is a package called etherwake |
| 01:48.31 | gnarface | thanks, i'll look into it |
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| 01:59.55 | gnuweb | I installed redmine.. but what web address can I use to access it? |
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| 02:05.57 | john_rambo | flashpluging-nonfree is installed but iceweasel cant find it |
| 02:06.05 | john_rambo | plugin |
| 02:06.39 | module000 | john_rambo: set your alternative to use it? |
| 02:07.00 | module000 | john_rambo: and if you haven't yet: https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 02:07.46 | abrotman | john_rambo: have you restarted iceweasel after installing? |
| 02:08.47 | john_rambo | abrotman, Yes |
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| 02:08.57 | abrotman | john_rambo: update-alternatives --config flash-mozilla.so |
| 02:10.19 | john_rambo | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/44999/ |
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| 02:12.28 | john_rambo | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/45000/ |
| 02:13.02 | abrotman | john_rambo: ls -l /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so |
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| 02:14.17 | john_rambo | abrotman, http://paste.debian.net/45001/ |
| 02:14.29 | themill | john_rambo: what does "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" do? |
| 02:14.30 | abrotman | john_rambo: side note, you will want to run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" soon |
| 02:14.35 | themill | *snap* |
| 02:14.41 | abrotman | heh |
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| 02:14.53 | abrotman | so it didn't actually install? |
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| 02:15.12 | abrotman | guesses the md5 didn't match or something |
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| 02:15.24 | themill | abrotman: no idea what happens if there's a network failure or non-matching signature when the postinst runs |
| 02:15.58 | dvs | abrotman: The update-flashplugin-nonfree --updae doesnt work anymore |
| 02:16.13 | abrotman | --install ? |
| 02:16.22 | dvs | that too! ;-) |
| 02:16.26 | sakal | hi, what about kdev-python in debian? anyone try to make deb package? |
| 02:16.46 | abrotman | dvs: because adobe sucks? |
| 02:16.51 | dvs | that too! ;-) |
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| 02:18.18 | john_rambo | themill, http://paste.debian.net/45002/ |
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| 02:19.03 | abrotman | john_rambo: and now, ls -l /etc/alternatives/flash-mozilla.so |
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| 02:19.46 | intelikey | what is this error about >>> ffmpeg: symbol lookup error: ffmpeg: undefined symbol: ffm_nopts <<< and what would be a good cure ? |
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| 02:20.14 | themill | intelikey: which release of debian? |
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| 02:21.03 | john_rambo | abrotman, Done ! flash is working now ..... In future if a new ver of flash player is available will apt-get update & upgrade install it ? |
| 02:21.18 | abrotman | john_rambo: i'll guess they'll updat ethe package eventually |
| 02:21.33 | intelikey | themill some old stable ummm 5 something i think |
| 02:22.11 | abrotman | dvs: i think they just haven't updated it in quite some time |
| 02:22.20 | intelikey | yeah debian_version says 5 |
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| 02:22.41 | dvs | figures! |
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| 02:23.22 | abrotman | intelikey: you may want to pastebin your `apt-cache policy` |
| 02:24.07 | themill | intelikey: the output of "apt-cache policy; apt-cache policy lib6 dpkg apt ffmpeg" might be interesting to see in a pastebin |
| 02:28.06 | unclezipper | Can anybody recommend a 'system-tray' network manager for XFCE other than wicd? |
| 02:28.33 | themill | unclezipper: network-manager |
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| 02:29.02 | intelikey | something like http://pastie.org/8347705 |
| 02:29.47 | intelikey | you did mean libc6 didn't you ? |
| 02:30.06 | unclezipper | themill: Ok, just did a quick search... I'm using Linux Mint 15, should the network-manager-gnome package work? |
| 02:30.19 | themill | unclezipper: no idea, you should ask the mint people |
| 02:31.33 | unclezipper | themill: Uhh... I think I'll just try it out. :P Thanks |
| 02:31.41 | themill | intelikey: you might like to upgrade to a stable release there.... lenny hasn't been supported by security updates for over 18 months. /msg dpkg lenny->squeeze ; /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
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| 02:32.39 | intelikey | themill i don't like the newer versions at least not the two i have seen |
| 02:32.53 | themill | *shrug* |
| 02:33.17 | intelikey | but does that mean that the version i have was "borked" ? |
| 02:33.37 | themill | more likely you've installed a newer version of some library that was incompatible with the ffmpeg you have |
| 02:34.07 | intelikey | themill everything i have was on the 5 dvd set nothing upgraded. |
| 02:34.37 | abrotman | you just somehow added random google packages? |
| 02:35.02 | intelikey | manually installed "google-earth" |
| 02:35.46 | intelikey | which doesn't work half the time...... ;/ |
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| 02:36.11 | abrotman | maybe you should use wheezy? |
| 02:36.26 | intelikey | version ? |
| 02:37.14 | intelikey | code names are so .....urban "street names -vs- hwy numbers" |
| 02:38.04 | intelikey | ah 7 |
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| 02:38.18 | intelikey | but that is the ultra ugly kde |
| 02:38.33 | abrotman | so don't use KDE .. |
| 02:38.40 | solarizedsky | hi all |
| 02:38.48 | abrotman | your linux hasn't had a security patch in over two years, that's insane |
| 02:38.57 | intelikey | if i was the only one using this box it wouldn't have a gui |
| 02:39.33 | abrotman | that doesn't solve your mlutiple problems |
| 02:39.39 | intelikey | it's had several breakin attempts none succeeded "yet" |
| 02:40.01 | themill | intelikey: if you can't work out how to configure kde to look how you want it to then you're really doing something wrong... "ultra ugly" is utter bs. |
| 02:40.41 | intelikey | openion *shruggs* |
| 02:41.14 | abrotman | fact, your system hasn't had a security update in over two years. |
| 02:41.22 | abrotman | refusing to upgrade is inane |
| 02:42.22 | themill | intelikey: it's not a matter of opinion that you can configure kde to look how you want. You can make your current kde look like a train wreck if you want, but that doesn't mean anything. |
| 02:42.31 | intelikey | abrotman ok i understand what you are saying, "we will not help you, because you do not fit a set of standards we hold dear" point made. i'll go else where. |
| 02:42.37 | abrotman | no .. |
| 02:42.46 | abrotman | or run off and cry |
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| 03:54.40 | sanjoyd | Has anyone here tried installing Skype on Debian Testing 64bit? |
| 03:54.57 | sanjoyd | dpkg -i ing it and then doing aptitude -f uninstalls vlc! |
| 03:54.58 | dpkg | removes a speen from sanjoyd and replaces it with ing it and then doing aptitude -f uninstalls vlc! |
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| 04:00.59 | mumpitzel | !skype |
| 04:00.59 | dpkg | Skype is a proprietary cross-platform <VoIP> service and application owned by Microsoft. Debian cannot distribute the application due to license. See http://wiki.debian.org/skype and ask me about <skype amd64>, <skype squeeze> for community-contributed information. Consider using free and secure alternatives: <ekiga>, <empathy>, <jitsi>, <linphone>. |
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| 05:09.31 | _AJ | Is this a bug with Debian while upgrading from 7.0 to 7.1? |
| 05:09.31 | _AJ | The contents of /etc/os-release still indicates Debian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy) |
| 05:09.31 | _AJ | VERSION_ID="7" |
| 05:09.31 | _AJ | VERSION="7 (wheezy)" |
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| 05:10.32 | _AJ | While lsb_release -a show 7.1 |
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| 05:19.23 | C00re | no |
| 05:19.28 | C00re | not a bug |
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| 05:20.04 | C00re | i installed 7.1 and it says 7 not 7.1 |
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| 05:21.21 | C00re | VERSION* is probably the major version.. ie 7.x |
| 05:22.25 | C00re | cat /etc/debian-version |
| 05:22.29 | C00re | 7.1 |
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| 05:28.40 | somiaj | C00re: yes wheezy is the release, the point release just include security/bug fixes (sometimes a few more drivers backported to the kernel) |
| 05:29.02 | somiaj | !point release |
| 05:29.02 | dpkg | Point releases are updates to <stable> and <oldstable>, incorporating security and grave bug fixes. You can upgrade to the latest point release by referencing a Debian <mirror> in /etc/apt/sources.list, then «aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade». See <7.1>, <6.0.7>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases |
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| 05:39.40 | _AJ | I would expect os-release and lsb_release -a show the same results |
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| 07:04.10 | khurram | hello every one |
| 07:04.20 | quinso | I have encoding problems with txt files from windows in russian. They look like a lot of messed up symbols. This is what file command says: |
| 07:04.20 | quinso | ISO-8859 text, with very long lines, with CRLF line terminators |
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| 07:04.48 | khurram | i have recentally installed debian wheesy 7 and want to have a bash shell always instead of GUI load on each reboot , |
| 07:04.50 | quinso | And this is what convmv says: |
| 07:04.50 | quinso | convmv -f cp1252 -t utf8 * |
| 07:04.57 | quinso | Skipping, already UTF-8: filename |
| 07:05.25 | khurram | can some one please throw light how to have shell prompt instead of GUI always , i do not want to remove GUI but instead leave it there if just in case needed |
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| 08:03.48 | maxyz | khurram: You don't want the display manager to start on your normal boot? |
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| 08:04.30 | maxyz | Assuming you are using kdm; update-rc.d kdm disable would do it. |
| 08:04.34 | khurram | maxyz: i do not want GUI to get loaded , instead i want bash prompt first and then if i want to load GUI i may |
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| 08:04.56 | khurram | maxyz: i am using gnome it came with debian 7 wheesy |
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| 08:05.28 | maxyz | khurram: you'll still have to login in the virtual terminal. |
| 08:06.15 | maxyz | replace kdm with the display manager you are using, probably gdm or gdm3 |
| 08:07.39 | _val_ | afaic wheezy 7 starts in init level 2 defaultly |
| 08:08.11 | _val_ | Which will get into a shell instead of starting a DE |
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| 08:09.27 | maxyz | _val_: Debian starts everything in the runlevel 2. |
| 08:10.05 | maxyz | To start everything in runlevel 3 is the behavior of red hat related distros. |
| 08:10.49 | khurram | is confused |
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| 08:11.14 | khurram | maxyz: can you type the command in debian |
| 08:11.31 | khurram | maxyz: can you please type the command in debian * |
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| 08:17.03 | _val_ | maxyz: if you take fedora in account than it is runlevel 5 which is emulated/linked to graphical.target. |
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| 08:17.39 | _val_ | runlevel 3 is the mult-user target withough graphical interface. Debian seems to put everything from 2-5 |
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| 08:19.49 | [pabu] | #list |
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| 08:30.55 | maxyz | khurram: update-rc.d is your friend. |
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| 08:31.12 | khurram | maxyz: ok i try |
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| 08:38.59 | Dewi | is there a way to specify binary (powers of 2) units in the debian installer? |
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| 08:39.50 | Dewi | or just sectors I guess... 's' suffix for sectors? |
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| 08:51.32 | lautriv | hey there, i found on 2 identical machines (x86, 32bit) one libc-2.17.so with 1759012 while the other has 1517036, could someone check what ls -l /lib/i386-linux-gbu/libc-2.17.so gives ? |
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| 08:57.05 | babilen | lautriv: I'd rather check checksums, look into debsums |
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| 09:08.53 | grammoboy | http://fpaste.org/41467/79926542/ |
| 09:09.03 | grammoboy | full disk but cant autoremove |
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| 09:13.07 | lautriv | grammoboy, delete or move something non-essential from the same partition. |
| 09:13.30 | grammoboy | rm stuff in /tmp seems to get me further |
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| 09:17.43 | maxyz | grammoboy: check where you have the most disk space "leak", or delete some old log files (/var/log/*.gz). |
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| 09:20.16 | maxyz | Also, keep in mind that deleting files that are opened by some program wont give you any extra space till the program closes the file. |
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| 09:44.58 | ksk | hey guyse, a question |
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| 09:46.26 | ksk | hum, nvm :) |
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| 09:54.37 | Peej_ | I'm on wheezy, and using a radeon HD 6450. A while ago (a few weeks ago) I was able to make my dual screen work with 1920x1200 + 1920x1200 on the VGA and DVI. Now, after updates and a reboot, I can't get a high res on the VGA. Ideas? |
| 09:55.02 | Peej_ | this is an amd64 setup |
| 09:56.35 | ChrisH | Peej_: I had similar problems with my dual-screen setup at home after upgrading to wheezy. I fixed it by installing a kernel vom experimental. 3.10.x Issue was: the second screen did not show anything but was detected from all tools. |
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| 09:56.55 | Uninstall | Hello |
| 09:57.09 | Uninstall | I think there is some weird bug in my debian installation |
| 09:57.35 | Uninstall | nfsd tells me that it failed to write recovery record (err -17) |
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| 09:58.11 | Peej_ | ChrisH, xrandr detects the second screen (-video-radeon) driver. With the radeonhd though it only mirrors (thinks there is one screen). |
| 09:58.17 | Uninstall | and it reports that I should check if /var/lib/nfs/v4recovery is writable |
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| 09:59.03 | Peej_ | ChrisH, you using radeonhd ? |
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| 10:00.24 | Peej_ | argh. spikes in vga output? (powers down to fix bios for vga) |
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| 10:16.15 | khurram | maxyz: are you there? |
| 10:16.53 | khurram | maxyz: i can putty , transfer files and every thing , except from browswer i can't access my phpinfo page ? can you please help |
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| 10:20.05 | ChrisH | Uninstall: errno 17 is EEXIST |
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| 10:21.14 | Uninstall | ChrisH: I see, but it complains about it |
| 10:21.25 | Uninstall | to be honest this is a freshly installed machine |
| 10:21.30 | Uninstall | so there are no changes |
| 10:22.42 | ChrisH | Uninstall: you could use strace/truss to see what nfsd tries to write. I have no practical experience with NFSv4 but it makes a lot of trouble. I am using and supporting NFS V2 and V3 for over 15 years on different UNIX systems now |
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| 10:23.09 | TuxLof | trying to do a net-install of debian 5 |
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| 10:23.24 | Uninstall | ChrisH: I'm using NFSv4 to have some kind of security |
| 10:23.26 | TuxLof | debian archive mirror is unavailable |
| 10:23.36 | TuxLof | or does not have a valid release file |
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| 10:25.19 | ChrisH | Uninstall: so you removed all NFS V2/V3 exports? NFS and security is,.... something different. You either have a secured environment and use NFS or something different. with local files or physically secured Fibre attached SAN disks (if shared stuff is needed). |
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| 10:26.58 | Uninstall | ChrisH: I would just need some authentication before to mount a NFS share |
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| 10:28.41 | babilen | TuxLof: How do you connect to the internet? Which mirror are you accessing? Have you tried other mirrors? Could you switch to tty4 (alt-f4) and check for errors and then to tty2 and check if you wget and/or curl available? |
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| 10:29.01 | babilen | ah well ... slow babilen is slow ... |
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| 10:29.31 | ChrisH | Uninstall: can you explain why authentification is needed? |
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| 10:32.55 | Uninstall | ChrisH: because someone could unplug the ethernet cable from a client and connect to the network |
| 10:33.07 | Uninstall | ChrisH: so IP based ACL are not so secure |
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| 10:35.43 | ChrisH | Uninstall: Use authentication on your switch ports. But if you do not have physical security given, or you cannot declare your environment as secured, to not use the net as source at all. consider sshfs |
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| 10:41.42 | LordDeath | will a "optimize table" command shrink the size of my ibdata1 file? |
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| 10:41.50 | LordDeath | in mysql on squeeze |
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| 10:43.02 | ksk | nope, and better ask in #mysql |
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| 10:43.58 | john_rambo | I am running 7 ........ How do I enable auto login ? |
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| 10:46.32 | jelly | ksk: gdm starting a specific user's session without any authentication automatically as start |
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| 10:54.32 | lautriv | yay fixed tha crap and guilty was libc ! |
| 10:56.08 | lautriv | john_rambo, put your knife in the config ;) |
| 10:57.11 | john_rambo | lautriv, I am trying to find the location of the config file |
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| 10:58.30 | lautriv | john_rambo, by FHS is is in /etc |
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| 10:59.06 | john_rambo | lautriv, searching ..... |
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| 11:00.22 | lautriv | john_rambo, gdm or gdm3 ? |
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| 11:01.55 | john_rambo | lautriv, gdm3 |
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| 11:02.46 | lautriv | urgh, i leaved gnome because of version 3 but it _should_ be some /etc/gdm3/gdm(3).conf iinm |
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| 11:04.17 | john_rambo | lautriv, I found this http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=199&t=81991 lets see if the solution works |
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| 11:06.09 | lfodh | if i run locale-gen on my debian vps, my ssh-session dies |
| 11:06.25 | lfodh | is there any way for me to get utf-8 working in debian over ssh? |
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| 11:06.43 | s1st3m4t1c0 | lfodh: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 11:07.05 | lfodh | s1st3m4t1c0: yeah, i tried that |
| 11:07.18 | lfodh | if i run it over ssh, the session breaks up |
| 11:07.36 | lfodh | if i run it over mosh, it builds the en_US locales and on UTF-8 reports "killed" |
| 11:07.56 | s1st3m4t1c0 | lfodh: Comment AcceptEnv line from sshd_config |
| 11:08.00 | s1st3m4t1c0 | Probally you're using ENV fron client machine. |
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| 11:08.42 | lfodh | in that case, it should be UTF-8 |
| 11:08.44 | lfodh | but it isn't |
| 11:08.57 | lfodh | i am using en_US.UTF-8 on my client machine |
| 11:09.00 | themill | lfodh: how much memory does that machine have? |
| 11:09.08 | lfodh | also, this still shouldn't affect utf-8 from being build |
| 11:09.14 | lfodh | err, like 128megs? |
| 11:09.16 | s1st3m4t1c0 | lfodh: Im using a Debian VPS right now, my LANG is pt_BR.UTF-8. |
| 11:09.54 | themill | lfodh: compiling locales takes quite a bit of memory and CPU. If you've got a truckload of other things running, you might be running out of memory there. |
| 11:10.04 | themill | lfodh: do you have OOM messages in your logs? |
| 11:10.22 | lfodh | i'm running mosh, tmux and irssi |
| 11:10.33 | lfodh | how much memory are we talking about? |
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| 11:11.09 | s1st3m4t1c0 | lfodh: free -m |
| 11:11.54 | lfodh | reports 94 mb of free memory |
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| 11:12.24 | themill | lfodh: did you find OOM messages in logs? |
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| 11:12.57 | lfodh | themill: looking right now |
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| 11:14.30 | s1st3m4t1c0 | lfodh: How much cost is this VPS? |
| 11:14.49 | lfodh | about 2 EUR/month |
| 11:15.14 | lfodh | up to now i didn't find any OOM errors |
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| 11:16.35 | sanga | how many packages are there in debian repository, main + contrib + non-free ? approx. |
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| 11:16.51 | drunkez | 35k |
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| 11:18.50 | sanga | are there any debian 7 backports repos from where xfce 4.10 is available ? |
| 11:19.08 | babilen | sanga: No |
| 11:19.27 | lfodh | themill: no OOM messages found |
| 11:19.40 | s1st3m4t1c0 | lfodh: grep -r 'EXPR' /var/log |
| 11:19.51 | themill | sanga: http://paste.debian.net/45172/ |
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| 11:20.32 | themill | lfodh: hmm... that's the most likely reason for an abrupt kill like that when you're doing something known to be CPU and memory intensive |
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| 11:21.22 | lfodh | hm, maybe the host OS doesn't grant me enough cpu usage |
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| 11:23.28 | toasterofmuppets | Anyone can make a sense of: http://paste.debian.net/44975 at time 32.832045 ? Because the devices should be capable, it just loses connection multiple times and thenscales down the mode for each softreset. |
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| 11:27.27 | sanga | how to install xfce 4.10 in debian 7 ? |
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| 11:29.54 | babilen | sanga: You don't; It is available in testing and unstable and most likely a pain to backport (if possible at all) to wheezy. |
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| 11:32.36 | somiaj | toasterofmuppets: I use to get errors similar to that when my ata controler was going bad. |
| 11:33.24 | somiaj | toasterofmuppets: there are ways to look up what the error codes mean, I belive that line with DRDY means end of error report. but I forget what most of it means |
| 11:33.33 | somiaj | toasterofmuppets: it could also just be a bad sata cable |
| 11:34.11 | nikolaj_basher | Is it posible to install two frontend for mailserver? |
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| 11:34.43 | somiaj | toasterofmuppets: https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Libata_error_messages -- can try to decipher it if you wish |
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| 11:39.18 | toasterofmuppets | somiaj: Its definitely not a bad sata cable, because its not even sata its pata ^^, but the cable is new. I am currently searching for some PCI pata controller to try. |
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| 11:42.25 | guest989 | hello |
| 11:42.25 | SNow | is anyone here that has knowledge within freeradius and vpn services? |
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| 11:43.36 | babilen | SNow: Try #freeradius and ##networking and ... (and ask a real question, not if "anybody" knows something. If somebody knows (s)he will answer.) |
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| 11:44.07 | somiaj | toasterofmuppets: the DRDY means that the device recovered from what ever the issue was. I was just giving you the time I had tons of things like that in my dmesg file |
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| 11:44.29 | SNow | I want to redirect specific radgroups users to specific website when they are connected to VPN through OpenVPN, pptp or l2tp. What attribute should I use and is this supported by VPN clients? |
| 11:44.38 | somiaj | toasterofmuppets: I ended up just changing sata ports and it stopped. Think I am still using that mobo |
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| 11:45.31 | khurram | why i can't access my apache from windwos7 ? i can do putty, ssh every thing is fine even from within debian the apache returns and curl works but from browser connection canot establish ? |
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| 11:46.00 | Sevet | SNow: you mean like a captive portal? |
| 11:46.04 | somiaj | khurram: that is port 80, do you have your network routing port 80 trafic/blocking it? |
| 11:46.34 | khurram | somiaj: thanks dear apache is listening on 433 defult configuration |
| 11:46.41 | somiaj | i.e. something that wouldnt be blocked from the local host, but would be blocked/redirected from the windows computer |
| 11:46.48 | Sevet | SNow: that's not going to be something supported by the vpn software itself, you'll additional software to handle that (likely iptables + a transparent proxy, and something to reconfigure the rules when a vpn client connects) |
| 11:46.54 | somiaj | khurram: oh sorry, https://, same idea different port. |
| 11:47.20 | somiaj | khurram: that could be your problem then, http:// defaults to looking at port 80. |
| 11:47.52 | SNow | Sevet: Yes, meaning if a user has an expiration it is sent to the group 'expired' and then all his requests are forwarded to 'www.external.com/expired' |
| 11:48.06 | somiaj | khurram: if your apache is only configured to listen on port 443 (https://) you have to tell that to your windows machine. If for some reason it is really listening on port 433 you have to tell that to your windows machine |
| 11:48.13 | SNow | so i assume this should be done with squid and iptables accordingly? |
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| 11:48.40 | khurram | somiaj: thanks its working now :) |
| 11:48.57 | Sevet | probably something like that. openvpn has a client-connect hook you can add the rules with. never used openvpn with radius though, so don't know what attributes it'll pass from the radius to the hook |
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| 11:50.39 | SNow | shit.. |
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| 11:58.51 | SNow | Sevet: another question then. Can I disconnect user from vpn through radius with a custom error message? |
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| 12:07.47 | yacc | Any idea why a LVM based box stops (after running update-grub) in initramfs busybox? need to run vgchange -a y MYVG + C-d and it continues to boot, ... |
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| 12:08.42 | yacc | Wheezy if that makes a difference, and the LVM containing root is distributed over 3 devices, BUT no parts of the VG are encrypted. |
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| 12:14.08 | ChrisH | yacc: I have LVM-root containing 2 PVs with encryption and it works fine. Sounds more like LVM is not properly in your initramfs |
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| 12:19.21 | jelly | yacc: which kernel are you using? |
| 12:20.20 | jelly | yacc: there used to be bugs pre-wheezy in bringing up VGs, that could be worked around by using root=/dev/mapper/vgname-lvname instead of root=UUID=... |
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| 12:21.08 | yacc | jelly, changing root= to the name in GRUB is not enough to make it boot, it seems. |
| 12:21.32 | yacc | 3.2.0-4-686-pae |
| 12:21.41 | jelly | !initramfs debug |
| 12:22.07 | jelly | huh, dpkg is absent |
| 12:22.18 | jelly | yacc: <dpkg> i heard initramfsdebug is http://wiki.debian.org/InitramfsDebug |
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| 12:33.14 | zophy | hi |
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| 12:37.40 | martin-_- | when i do aptitude update there are many Get: 76 http://ftp.us.debian.org unstable/main 2013-09-20-2034.04._pdiff_ [10.2 kB] whats the background for this? |
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| 12:38.03 | ksk | martin-_-: you probably place unstable in your sources.list |
| 12:38.08 | ksk | !tell martin-_- about sources.list |
| 12:38.23 | ksk | placed. and the bot seems to be dead :/ |
| 12:38.29 | martin-_- | :'( |
| 12:38.59 | martin-_- | yes i got debian sid/unstable |
| 12:39.23 | martin-_- | i want to know why this pdiff are generated |
| 12:40.03 | ksk | thats just the usual thing that happens using an apt-get update |
| 12:40.25 | martin-_- | ah ok i thought this is only in debian sid |
| 12:40.36 | jelly | ksk: it's not dead, just not present in the channel. |
| 12:40.42 | martin-_- | my stable debian version is sarge on a nas :D |
| 12:41.09 | martin-_- | and there i never saw this pdiff when using apt-get update |
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| 12:41.33 | dpkg | Okay, I'm here. (courtesy of themill) |
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| 12:41.57 | bezoka | hi |
| 12:42.00 | bezoka | I have problem |
| 12:42.01 | jelly | martin-_-: sarge stopped being stable in 2007 |
| 12:42.03 | martin-_- | hi dpkg |
| 12:42.08 | bezoka | www.oneway.y0/text.txt |
| 12:42.11 | martin-_- | thanks |
| 12:42.14 | bezoka | is the copy of my console |
| 12:42.18 | bezoka | can somebody help me? |
| 12:42.41 | bezoka | www.oneway.y0.pl/text.txt ** |
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| 12:43.24 | petn-randall | !localized errors |
| 12:43.24 | dpkg | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install» |
| 12:43.47 | jelly | bezoka: your lilo configuration seems to be incorrect |
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| 12:44.14 | bezoka | jelly: thanks ;) how can I repair it? |
| 12:44.52 | abrotman | dpkg: tell martin-_- about pdiff |
| 12:45.38 | martin-_- | thanks abrotman |
| 12:46.07 | jelly | bezoka: I haven't been using lilo for a while. Inspect the contents of /etc/lilo.conf and try to figure out where it refers to /dev/sdb1 and where has /dev/sdb1 gone |
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| 12:46.54 | bezoka | I prefer grub but I couldnt install it ;/ |
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| 12:55.22 | petn-randall | bezoka: I personally would go with grub. Never liked lilo. |
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| 12:56.34 | jelly | between grub2 and lilo... I choose extlinux |
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| 12:56.55 | bezoka | I wanted grub2, but I couldnt install ;< |
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| 13:00.31 | toni_ | Hi! I would like to view the Debian Changelog of a package, but can't: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 13:01.02 | toni_ | Is it a bug, or should I just wait, and if so, for how long? |
| 13:01.48 | themill | toni_: packages.d.o often ends up missing changelogs like this. You can get apt-listchanges to show you the changelog prior to installing it |
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| 13:01.57 | jelly | toni_: how does "aptitude changelog linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64" fail? |
| 13:03.47 | toni_ | themill: the problem with the affected computer is that apt-listchanges always produces an empty result. On other computers, apt-listchanges works as expected. |
| 13:03.51 | toni_ | jelly: http://pastebin.com/F9qQm8aU |
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| 13:04.00 | petn-randall | toni_: The changelog for a new package should show up within hours on the web page. I recommend using apt-listchanges (like themill also recommended) though, because it extracts the changelog from the downloaded package itself. |
| 13:04.11 | ChrisH | Is it possible to get postfix to log the mailsize it processed or rejected (as exim4 does)? I di dnot find usefull stuff so far. |
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| 13:04.40 | toni_ | petn-randall: doesn't work, as already outlined |
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| 13:05.08 | themill | toni_: "empty result"? |
| 13:05.20 | petn-randall | toni_: aptitude changelog != apt-listchanges |
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| 13:05.52 | toni_ | petn-randall: I only went to the web page when the apt-listchanges email said "upgrade these packages", but without any changelog attached. |
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| 13:06.19 | themill | email? web page? |
| 13:06.23 | petn-randall | toni_: "aptitude changelog" just grabs the changelog from the web page, which we already found out isn't available yet. apt-listchanges is a package you have to install. |
| 13:06.26 | themill | looks very confused |
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| 13:06.50 | toni_ | petn-randall: the package apt-listchanges is already installed, and that was what sent me the message. |
| 13:06.58 | toni_ | or it was apticron |
| 13:06.58 | petn-randall | toni_: apt-listchanges doesn't give you any upgrade recommendations. I think you're confusing several packages with eachother. |
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| 13:08.00 | violet-rpi | hi i did an install of wheezy (netinstall) on xen server , but mirrorselection failed so i skipt , now i want to install openssh-server , i get E: Unable to locate package openssh-server |
| 13:08.23 | violet-rpi | do i need to edit rthe source.list or add a mirror now? |
| 13:08.46 | jelly | violet-rpi: can you pastebin the current sources.list? |
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| 13:09.16 | SirLagz | anyone having any issues with Steam ? |
| 13:09.20 | SirLagz | I can't seem to get mine to open anymore :( |
| 13:09.25 | violet-rpi | hmm no pastbin yet:x |
| 13:09.52 | SirLagz | violet-rpi: is there anything in /etc/apt/sources.list at all ? |
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| 13:09.55 | toni_ | petn-randall: I don't think so: http://pastebin.com/3jhd5ZRT |
| 13:09.59 | violet-rpi | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
| 13:09.59 | violet-rpi | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
| 13:10.04 | nordicek | hello, can someone tell me how to remove iceweasel, evolution etc..? I tried to unmarkauto gnome but it doesnt help much |
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| 13:10.17 | violet-rpi | i did add contrib non-free btw |
| 13:10.20 | SirLagz | violet-rpi: is that all ? |
| 13:10.25 | violet-rpi | SirLagz: yes |
| 13:10.26 | petn-randall | SirLagz: You're most likely running testing/unstable, go ask on #debian-next on OFTC. |
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| 13:10.30 | themill | dpkg: tell violet-rpi about wheezy sources.list |
| 13:10.33 | SirLagz | petn-randall: thanks. |
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| 13:13.13 | violet-rpi | ty now it works |
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| 13:13.45 | toni_ | petn-randall, themill: that's a 7.1 machine, btw. |
| 13:14.08 | toni_ | on my squeeze machines, i don't have this problem |
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| 13:15.03 | toni_ | but i just found http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=710745 |
| 13:15.04 | petn-randall | toni_: Seems like apticron is calling apt-listchanges with the wrong parameters, because it's showing you only it's synopsis. |
| 13:15.07 | toni_ | which may be related |
| 13:15.18 | toni_ | petn-randall: yes. |
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| 13:16.02 | themill | that's about binnmu changelogs which is different |
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| 13:16.23 | toni_ | themill: ok |
| 13:17.11 | themill | have you actually got it straight as to whether you're talking about apt-listchanges or apticron here? |
| 13:17.34 | caraculo | anyone ever used the LZMA-SDK in Debian? for the 7zip archiving I do not see any dev package. Only for XZ format. |
| 13:18.15 | bucketm0use | When I'm doing web development work on a VPS (running wheezy) - how can I edit/change/move files and have the permissions of that folder stick to 'www-data:www-data' rather than changing to the last user to edit them? |
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| 13:20.52 | cantoma | hey guys, I have installed debian testing (aka jessie) in one of my machines. I am using wmaker and I have realised that wmaker audio mixers such as wmmixer are not capable to control the audio master volume. Is there a way of debugging why is this happening? |
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| 13:23.27 | cantoma | it could be that there are some changes in the alsa audio system and as a consequence also in the way that applications are meant to communicate with the audio controllers |
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| 13:24.06 | cantoma | i can easily change the audio volume using alsamixer |
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| 13:24.38 | cantoma | but this is not a nice application to dock in my wmaker environment |
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| 13:31.02 | petn-randall | cantoma: Ask on #debian-next on OFTC, this channel is stable support only. All the people using testing/sid hang out there, you'll have more luck fixing your problem over there. |
| 13:31.35 | cantoma | petn-randall, ok thanks |
| 13:31.49 | cantoma | petn-randall, it says Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only). |
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| 13:36.48 | themill | cantoma: wrong network |
| 13:37.26 | cantoma | ok i will connect to that network |
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| 13:38.48 | martin-_- | hi after apt-get upgrade google chrome doesn't support java applets anymore |
| 13:38.54 | martin-_- | it tells me to install the java plugin |
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| 13:39.03 | martin-_- | I did this http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48550 |
| 13:39.27 | martin-_- | and the /opt/google/chrome/plugins/libnpjp2.so -> /usr/local/jdk1.7.0_25/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so still exists |
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| 14:05.58 | LU324 | https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting says that it should be enabled automatically with the open radeon driver, but it doesn't seem to work for me. i have the driver installed, but the console resolution is still low and it flickers when switching to it from gui |
| 14:06.05 | LU324 | the /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf file it mentions does exist, and it contains "options radeon modeset=1". also lsmod mentions radeon. any idea why it's not working? |
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| 14:07.03 | tomodachi | LU324: you could try loading/ setting the module parameter from your grub kernel line |
| 14:07.51 | jhutchins | LU324: There are two components to the Radeon GUI driver, a kernel module (which would appear to be loading) and the xorg driver. |
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| 14:08.25 | jhutchins | LU324: There's a lot of information in /var/log/Xorg.0.log, but it should indicate which xorg driver is loading. |
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| 14:08.33 | juun | Anyone know where can I find documentation on $TERM, like a list and description of the different types of terminals? |
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| 14:09.25 | jhutchins | juun: /etc/terminfo/README |
| 14:09.36 | juun | Thanks. |
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| 14:09.53 | LU324 | jhutchins: X crashes with anything but the vesa driver (which wasn't the case before an update) |
| 14:10.04 | LU324 | saying no screens found |
| 14:10.07 | ChrisH | juun: and ls -lR /usr/share/terminfo will show all existing TERM entries |
| 14:11.08 | peej_ | I can't get the vga output from my radeon HD 6450 to do anything more than 1024x768@60 since a reboot after a long time. Monitor is fine. I'm using the xorg ati driver. |
| 14:11.11 | jhutchins | LU324: What release are you on? |
| 14:11.14 | juun | ChrisH: Thanks. |
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| 14:12.13 | peej_ | it used to do a vga out of 1920x1200 just like the dvi |
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| 14:12.58 | peej_ | I'm on wheezy |
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| 14:15.57 | peej_ | xrand works fine. Just the resolution of the vga output has gone down. I'm guessing 'cos of some wheezy update. |
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| 14:16.17 | jelly | peej_: does xrandr show any higher resolution available on that output |
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| 14:16.44 | peej_ | I've removed the ati wrapper, but the problem remains with the xvideo-xorg-video-radeon. |
| 14:16.47 | peej_ | jelly: nope. |
| 14:17.25 | jelly | peej_: have you changed kernels recently? |
| 14:18.40 | peej_ | not since sep 6. But I hadn't rebooted a while. |
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| 14:19.57 | lillian1 | I have gnome3 installed |
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| 14:20.17 | lillian1 | what's the name I can use to call the file manager from the terminal/ |
| 14:20.32 | jelly | peej_: hmph. If you chvt to the console (say, vt1) and back to X on vt7, does xrandr output change at all? It the monitor connected to VGA switched on? |
| 14:20.35 | peej_ | Jelly, actually, I have rebooted since then |
| 14:21.28 | peej_ | vga monitor is displaying. It's just a very assymmetrical dual head like this. |
| 14:22.12 | peej_ | switching between tty1 and x gives me no change. |
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| 14:22.49 | peej_ | jiggling connections, swapping connections - no change. It really looks like either a driver or a card glitch. |
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| 14:23.29 | lillian1 | nautilus isn't a command--so how the hell can I make a launcher for the gnome 3 file manager |
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| 14:23.59 | msn | how can i find out what is the reason for error in cron execution. THe command executes perfectly from command line but when it goes to cron it gives permission denied even if its the root doing thee xcution |
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| 14:24.13 | jaggz | what libc6-dev or related packages do I install for -686? I'm getting errors like this: /usr/include/features.h:323:26: error: bits/predefs.h: No such file or directory with kernel 2.6.18-6-686 |
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| 14:24.17 | peej_ | lillian1, nautilus is a command for me. Mebbe you need to install it |
| 14:24.27 | ksk | msn: debugging output |
| 14:24.36 | JyZyXEL | im trying to do makedev generic on a chrooted environment but it spams: /sbin/MAKEDEV: warning: can't read /proc/devices |
| 14:24.37 | ksk | (create it yourself) |
| 14:24.43 | JyZyXEL | should the proc be --bind mounted before trying this?= |
| 14:24.50 | lautriv | what flag for lsof to see only open/growing files ? (can't man because i got / on 100% ) |
| 14:24.54 | lillian1 | peej_: what's the default gnome3 file manager? |
| 14:25.03 | msn | ksk nothing comes in debugging the command doesnt even excute, it gives permission denied in log even with -L 8 |
| 14:25.04 | ksk | JyZyXEL: if you want to do stuff that needs proc inside chroot then yes |
| 14:25.17 | JyZyXEL | ksk: well does "makedev generic" need it? |
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| 14:25.32 | JyZyXEL | because it did create a crapload of devices even without the proc |
| 14:25.36 | ksk | JyZyXEL: if it complains id think so |
| 14:25.49 | peej_ | lillian1, dunno. my wheezy default is nautilus. I'm not sure I have gnome. I do have gdm3 so I probably have it. |
| 14:25.50 | JyZyXEL | ksk: debian installation manual has this step before mounting proc |
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| 14:25.55 | ksk | might be possible it works without and you can ignore that error |
| 14:26.01 | JyZyXEL | ksk: :\ |
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| 14:28.12 | JyZyXEL | ksk: i guess it wouldn't hurt to rerun this command with /proc mounted, even though the installation guide doesn't do things that way? |
| 14:28.17 | nordicek | hello, can someone tell me how to remove iceweasel, evolution etc..? I tried to unmarkauto gnome but it doesnt help much |
| 14:28.27 | LU324 | jhutchins: unstable |
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| 14:28.52 | gb | nordicek: can? yes :) |
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| 14:29.24 | gb | several ways you can do it, depends how you installed them |
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| 14:29.45 | nordicek | gb, would you please? it was preinstalled |
| 14:30.19 | babilen | nordicek: You mean installed the "Desktop" during the initial installation? |
| 14:30.34 | gb | you can either apt-get remove packagename |
| 14:30.44 | babilen | nordicek: And just out of curiosity: Why do you want to remove iceweasel? |
| 14:30.48 | gb | or you can use aptitude if thats installed |
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| 14:31.42 | gb | theres 101 ways it would seem |
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| 14:31.56 | gb | or you could just use dpkg |
| 14:31.59 | nordicek | babilen, yes... its not jsut iceweasel but others I dont need... and I want to make more space on my ssd |
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| 14:32.14 | babilen | Well, there are a few that make sense, but I'd still like to understand what nordicek is trying to achieve first and how (s)he installed Gnome in the first place. |
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| 14:32.59 | babilen | nordicek: Sure, you should be able to just run "apt-get purge iceweasel" to purge that package, but I guess that your actual question is: How do I do that without removing the entirety of Gnome while I am at it? |
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| 14:33.12 | babilen | dpkg: tell nordicek about install gnome |
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| 14:33.23 | gb | just be careful if using something like aptitude it does not remove something you might actually want installed still |
| 14:34.03 | gb | i also recommend taking a snapshot of the ssd onto a usb stick or similar |
| 14:34.42 | babilen | nordicek: You have to install a "smaller" gnome metapackage than the one you have right now (gnome) -- I would personally recommend to use either gnome-core or gnome-session and then run "apt-get purge iceweasel". Manually install (or unmarkauto) everything else you would like to keep. Once you are happy with the selection go ahead and accept it and run "apt-get --purge autoremove" to finish. |
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| 14:36.11 | gb | i actually prefer xfce instead of gnome but still prefer iceweasel over the browser it comes with |
| 14:36.19 | nordicek | babilen, gb, cool thanks, i guess i have to remove current gnome? |
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| 14:37.22 | gb | it does help to start with a minimal install though instead of trying to uninstall after the fact |
| 14:37.59 | gb | but guessing you are past that point now |
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| 14:39.29 | babilen | nordicek: No, you don't have to remove anything you want to keep, but "gnome" is just a metapackage whose whole purpose it is to pull in *other* packages. |
| 14:39.58 | babilen | (so yeah, that package has to be removed if you remove one of its dependencies, but you don't have to remove any of its other dependencies if you don't want to) |
| 14:40.34 | babilen | nordicek: Paste output to http://paste.debian.net and tell me what you want to keep if you want tips and help on how to achieve that best. i'd start with "apt-get install gnome-core" (or gnome-session) and take it from there. |
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| 14:40.43 | gb | i'd say ditch it gnome/kde are very bloated |
| 14:41.07 | themill | gb: not helping... |
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| 14:42.05 | nordicek | babilen, ok. lets do this |
| 14:42.20 | gb | how so its true they drag in heaps of stuff to fill valuable ssd |
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| 14:42.42 | gb | so getting rid of them will achieve the goal |
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| 14:44.22 | babilen | nordicek: Please keep it in the channel |
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| 14:45.29 | gb | nordicek: is there anything in gnome that you are actually wanting to use? |
| 14:46.27 | babilen | nordicek: Well, then run "apt-get -s purge iceweasel" and show me the output. It would also help to know what you would like to keep from the packages that are scheduled/proposed for removal. |
| 14:47.21 | gb | yeah it's pretty difficult without knowing what they want on their system in order to give better advice |
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| 14:49.02 | nordicek | agree, also this is my first time with gnome so I dont know all parts of gnome |
| 14:49.10 | gb | i have found gnome very painful in sid if you need to run something other then default settings whenever their is a new development because your settings get trashed in favour of insane defaults which is why i got rid of it |
| 14:49.13 | peej_ | I seem to have a radeon HD6450 a driver or a card glitch. After a reboot the vga output only goes up to 1024x768 instead of 1920x1200. Probably easiest to swap the card to check if it's wheezy or the hardware. |
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| 14:50.24 | ChrisH | peej_: did you tested a newer kernel? |
| 14:50.32 | nordicek | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/4f3357e7/ |
| 14:50.34 | zinx | peej_: it's probably the hardware not reporting EDID reliably |
| 14:51.09 | zinx | peej_: some drivers let you read the EDID from a file (you can dump it with read-edid), i think both the open source and proprietary driver are that way |
| 14:51.25 | zinx | peej_: or you can just provide it correct ranges / timings and tell it to ignore edid |
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| 14:52.11 | Neobenedict | Hi, I recently got an additional SSD added to my rented server. How do I configure and set it up? I want it accessable at somewhere like /ssd and independant from the other hard disks. |
| 14:52.14 | peej_ | ChrisH, nope. just 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 14:52.26 | Neobenedict | This is the latest debian/ |
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| 14:52.49 | babilen | nordicek: Hmm, gnome-core depends on iceweasel, looks as if you have to pick an even smaller metapackage (namely gnome-session) - It'll also help to see the "aptitude -s purge iceweasel" output as that will actually list the packages up for removal. Otherwise you can use apt-get to purge it and show me the "apt-get --purge -s autoremove" output. |
| 14:53.09 | tomodachi | Neobenedict: it wil show up as another device under /dev/ , dmesg |less should tell you what the devicename of your new disk is |
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| 14:53.31 | peej_ | zinx: if I swap monitor leads, the low res moves to the other monitor. |
| 14:53.33 | tomodachi | Neobenedict: something similair to /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc perhaps |
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| 14:53.48 | peej_ | zinx, so that suggests the hardware glitch is in the card? |
| 14:53.49 | zinx | peej_: then it's either cable or port |
| 14:54.11 | zinx | peej_: like i say, though, you can bypass the glitch |
| 14:54.12 | peej_ | grabs another cable.... |
| 14:54.36 | Neobenedict | Where in dmesg |less will it say the devicename? tomocha66 |
| 14:54.43 | gb | Neobenedict: depends, should be as simple as mounting the ssd once you discern the devicename from dmesg |
| 14:54.45 | Neobenedict | tomodachi* |
| 14:54.53 | Neobenedict | I can't see it. |
| 14:55.07 | ChrisH | peej_: before starting to throw with HW, I would replace the kernel from testing/unstable/experimental as this is less invasive then replacing HW. |
| 14:55.26 | tomodachi | Neobenedict: try dmesg |grep sd |
| 14:56.00 | gb | umm not quite true, depends on the type of card |
| 14:56.52 | nordicek | babilen, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/d6e49582/ |
| 14:56.54 | Neobenedict | tomodachi: http://pastebin.com/x5uGa21B |
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| 14:56.59 | zinx | peej_: i s'pose there's also a small possibility it's the card's firmware, but you generally can't update it, and again, you can work around it whatever it is, by either supplying the edid via a file or providing the driver w/ the correct info and telling it to ignore edid |
| 14:56.59 | Neobenedict | I think this is it. |
| 14:56.59 | gb | on my x0 the ssd comes up as /dev/mmcblk0p1 |
| 14:57.03 | Neobenedict | It's 240GB. |
| 14:57.21 | babilen | nordicek: That looks about alright, I'd go ahead with that. |
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| 14:57.51 | babilen | nordicek: Oh, and purge task-desktop and task-gnome-desktop too while you are at it |
| 14:57.52 | LU324 | tomodachi: you mean adding something to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX variable in /etc/grub.d/10_linux ? |
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| 14:58.25 | Neobenedict | tomodachi: I can't see any paths there though... |
| 14:59.40 | nordicek | babilen, ok I will accept it and let you know |
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| 15:01.37 | nordicek | babilen, is this still ok? http://paste.debian.net/hidden/c3242a6f/ |
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| 15:02.02 | gb | Neobenedict did you find the card? |
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| 15:02.39 | Neobenedict | gb I found a more useful command |
| 15:02.39 | Neobenedict | http://pastebin.com/DBE9Reyr |
| 15:02.44 | peej_ | it was the cable. Yay! |
| 15:02.48 | Neobenedict | The new disk is the 240GB one. |
| 15:02.49 | zinx | peej_: :) |
| 15:02.50 | peej_ | zinx++ |
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| 15:02.51 | Neobenedict | at the bottom |
| 15:03.07 | Neobenedict | /dev/sdc is my path? |
| 15:03.25 | Neobenedict | The first disks are in raid 1 by the way |
| 15:03.34 | Neobenedict | I don't want the SSD to be involved in the raid. |
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| 15:04.22 | babilen | nordicek: No, you probably want to run "apt-get install xorg" to ensure that Xorg isn't removed :) |
| 15:04.25 | gb | ahh ok i just decided to be a bit careful with my ssd nd prepped it according to a website i found to ensure it's longevity |
| 15:04.32 | babilen | nordicek: (or unmarkauto) |
| 15:05.22 | JZA | I need help, I need a friend to get hunspell-tools on his virtual machine, but I am confused. |
| 15:05.30 | JZA | he installed Debian LXDE version |
| 15:05.50 | JZA | but he can't find the packages. |
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| 15:06.50 | jhutchins | !search |
| 15:06.50 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. «apt-cache search regex», or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): «dpkg -S /bin/foo», <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and «/msg judd help file» (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. See also <axi-search> <debtags> <dlocate>. |
| 15:07.06 | JZA | jhutchins: was that meant for me? |
| 15:07.06 | mumpitzel | JZA: most likely his sources.list is broken |
| 15:07.32 | JZA | mumpitzel: yeah I got the original source.lst from the distro it only points to the CD |
| 15:07.35 | jhutchins | JZA: Not as helpful as I remembered. |
| 15:07.36 | JZA | mumpitzel: and updtes |
| 15:07.36 | babilen | JZA: hunspell-tools is in wheezy and your friend should find it *iff* (s)he configured repositories correctly. I'll ask the bot to sent you some explanations, but you would end up with an /etc/apt/sources.list like http://paste.debian.net/45254/ (remove wheezy-backports if not wanted or needed, wouldn't hurt though) |
| 15:07.43 | mumpitzel | !tell JZA about wheezy sources.list |
| 15:07.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell JZA -about wheezy sources.list |
| 15:08.19 | JZA | jhutchins: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3128926 |
| 15:08.20 | babilen | JZA: Make sure to have her/him run "apt-get update" after making changes to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:08.55 | babilen | JZA: Yeah, you need to change that sources.list -- please refer to the one I pasted earlier and the private message our bot sent you. |
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| 15:09.51 | babilen | JZA: (and please don't use ftp.debian.org but a mirror close to you, http.debian.net (which picks the "best" one automagically) or one of the mirrors in our county rotation (ftp.CC.debian.org, e.g. ftp.uk.debian.org)) |
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| 15:11.44 | LU324 | i see i have both "10_linux" and "10_linux.dpkg-old" in /etc/grub.d , and the dpkg-old one adds a nomodeset parameter |
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| 15:12.18 | LU324 | could that be the reason it's not working? or is the dpkg-old file ignored? |
| 15:12.50 | ksk | yes, it is ignored. 10_linux was put there by dpkg during a package upgrade, and the old one was moved to dpkg-old |
| 15:13.29 | Sevet_ | ksk: though will grub know to ignore it, if it loads all files in that directory? |
| 15:13.47 | themill | should do |
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| 15:14.10 | ksk | is it executable, too? dunno how grub2 works there |
| 15:14.12 | LU324 | maybe that's why it broke, the old 10_linux had some setting that made the radeon driver work? |
| 15:14.22 | ksk | maybe. |
| 15:14.51 | Sevet_ | LU324: move the .dpkg-old to another directory for savekeeping, try that. if that fails swap the files. |
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| 15:18.57 | Neobenedict | p2p@localhost / $ sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdc /ssd |
| 15:18.58 | Neobenedict | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc, missing codepage or helper program, or other error In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail or so |
| 15:18.59 | Neobenedict | wut |
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| 15:20.59 | babilen | nordicek: How are you doing? |
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| 15:21.04 | Neobenedict | okay i'm mkfs.ext4'ing it |
| 15:21.08 | Neobenedict | this takes a while doesnt it |
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| 15:22.00 | Neobenedict | okay with an SSD maybe not so long |
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| 15:22.08 | ChrisH | Neobenedict: the whole disk /dev/sdc? not a partition on the disk? |
| 15:22.15 | Neobenedict | ChrisH: yeah |
| 15:22.17 | Neobenedict | it's a small SSD |
| 15:22.31 | Neobenedict | that has been added |
| 15:22.41 | Neobenedict | no point partitioning it |
| 15:22.58 | Neobenedict | okay now i mounted |
| 15:23.00 | Neobenedict | how can i test |
| 15:23.06 | Neobenedict | say read/write speeds |
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| 15:24.49 | Neobenedict | okay Timing buffered disk reads: 786 MB in 3.01 seconds = 261.35 MB/sec this is much better |
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| 15:25.34 | Neobenedict | How do I give everybody write permission to a directory? Like /tmp |
| 15:25.39 | Neobenedict | so make it like /tmp |
| 15:25.47 | babilen | dpkg: enter |
| 15:25.48 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 15:25.52 | babilen | Neobenedict: ^^^^ |
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| 15:26.28 | Neobenedict | babilen: If I could go back and edit I would. |
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| 15:28.07 | caraculo | is there any dev package for p7zip? I need to use 7zip API from C/C++ p7zip only installs tools and a shared lib called 7z.so |
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| 15:29.39 | Neobenedict | okay figured everything out cheers |
| 15:29.47 | babilen | Neobenedict: Just give that directory similar permissions like /tmp (namely drwxrwxrwt) - you might want to set the sticky bit on that directory to prevent other users than the owner from moving or deleting files |
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| 15:29.49 | LU324 | Sevet_: i tried removing one and then the other, neither of them made the console high-resolution or made X work with the radeon driver |
| 15:30.07 | themill | caraculo: #663890 (doesn't really answer your question, but this is a known problem) |
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| 15:33.17 | caraculo | themill, I see, I guess that I have to manually install the headers and so... I ignore whether the 7z.so what API uses, the C API or the C++.... |
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| 15:41.49 | ZetaNeta | hi |
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| 16:01.26 | DammitJim | do you guys know if for TeamViewer, one has to be logged in as a certain user on the "server?" |
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| 16:07.25 | tga | greetings. does anyone happen to know whether it's possible to do nat traversal for ssh so that after the handshake the machines communicate directly? |
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| 16:08.30 | ChrisH | tga: why do you then need NAT at the beginning? |
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| 16:08.57 | tga | ChrisH: I have two machines, both behind NAT, and I want to have them communicate directly, without going through a central VPN server |
| 16:09.13 | tga | ChrisH: I do have that central server but I don't want all traffic to go through it, just the handshake |
| 16:09.16 | zykotick9 | tga: crossposting between #ubuntu and #debian is generally frowned upon. |
| 16:09.17 | tga | ChrisH: any chance? |
| 16:09.28 | Sevet_ | tga: you mean for non-ssh connections? |
| 16:09.59 | tga | yeah, eventually I want to stream media |
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| 16:10.04 | Sevet_ | no there's no way to communicate directly - the machines do not have an ip address they can reach each other directly on |
| 16:10.14 | msn | i am trying to setup or resetup cron to run cacti poller, it was running earlier when the user was being imported using pam_ldap and pam_krb5, now whe i mam useing pam_sss it am getting permission denied in cron and the only error i get is permission denied even with -L 15. The cront is currently running eveyr minute (testing) but it fails as non privileged user and it fails even as root, |
| 16:10.15 | phy1729 | tga: maybe look into ssh -R or -L |
| 16:10.23 | Sevet_ | you can tunnel via ssh though |
| 16:10.28 | tga | SIP seems to do that with STUN |
| 16:10.32 | Sevet_ | but that'll be only for the ports you configure |
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| 16:10.58 | tga | at the moment I have both machines VPN into a central server, but that means all traffic is routed through there |
| 16:11.12 | ChrisH | tga: IF these two systems can reach each other then direct communication is possible. |
| 16:11.13 | Sevet_ | SIP does it for connectionless protocols (RTP), not just 'anything' and it requires specific support, it cannot work automatically for anything |
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| 16:11.35 | tga | right, that's what I was asking, any chance of having something like STUN work for ssh? |
| 16:11.49 | tga | if I have ssh then I can tunnel ports, proxy, etc |
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| 16:12.12 | trem0r | tga, check out pwnat |
| 16:12.14 | ChrisH | tga: its simply a question of your routing table and the firewalls/network/routers at your side. It does not have anything to do with SSH itself. |
| 16:12.39 | tga | ChrisH: I don't control the networks I'm on, both NAT and no open ports |
| 16:12.45 | tga | that's the whole challenge |
| 16:12.59 | tga | trem0r: a-ha, interesting |
| 16:13.06 | ChrisH | tga: but you controll both servers? |
| 16:13.11 | Sevet_ | tga: also, tinc |
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| 16:13.28 | tga | I control both machines, yes, but not the networks |
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| 16:13.55 | Sevet_ | tga: tinc = vpn server with udp hole punching to get a direct connection between clients |
| 16:14.00 | ChrisH | tga: then my statement is true. VPN does not mean default gw into VPN! |
| 16:14.39 | tga | with regular vpn traffic between the two machines goes through the vpn server |
| 16:14.51 | tga | investigates pwnat and tinc |
| 16:15.09 | LU324 | anyway, i'll just describe the original issue in case someone has an idea: after an update, dual monitors stopped working (xrandr shows one), and the radeon driver doesn't work (anything other than vesa makes X quit saying no screens found) |
| 16:15.10 | tga | it looks like that is what I wanted |
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| 16:17.52 | tga | mm pwnat sounds quite awesome, punches through nat using icmp |
| 16:18.01 | tga | no need for a central server either |
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| 16:24.55 | tga | hah, think I found a better option, provided it works well |
| 16:25.01 | tga | free ipv6 tunnel |
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| 16:36.11 | jaggz|2 | if I'm going from squeeze to wheezy, do I use a squeeze-backports entry in sources? |
| 16:36.26 | ksk | !tell jaggz|2 about squeeze->wheezy |
| 16:36.27 | ksk | jaggz|2: no |
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| 16:36.43 | ksk | you use squeeze-backports if you are on squeeze and want to use backported packages for that release |
| 16:37.08 | jaggz|2 | there's no wheezy-backports in the mirror's dists/ dir |
| 16:37.33 | jaggz|2 | n/m.. found a url with info on it |
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| 16:38.34 | jaggz|2 | upgrading a live server :/ |
| 16:39.33 | ksk | you used squeeze-backports proably because the softwares version in squeeze was too old for you - it means you can now probably use the default wheezy versions without any backports |
| 16:39.35 | jaggz|2 | 'of the <release notes>. In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "squeeze" to "wheezy"' |
| 16:39.41 | ksk | because it will be newer then squeezes' version |
| 16:39.43 | jaggz|2 | I think "ln" in that message is wrong? |
| 16:40.04 | jaggz|2 | I see.. thanks :) |
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| 16:42.28 | jaggz|2 | how do I resolve specific problems which I don't see mentioned in the release-notes? e.g.: during apt-get upgrade I get: 'libc-dev-bin: Depends: libc6 (> 2.13) but 2.11.3-2 is installed' |
| 16:42.54 | ksk | that should not happen :P |
| 16:43.02 | jaggz|2 | okay, I'll just pretend :) |
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| 16:44.04 | jaggz|2 | itit has a few dependencies in its tree, eventually requiring glibc-2.13-1 .. It seems I need a new kernel (thought I did that already) |
| 16:44.39 | jaggz|2 | I'm at 2.6.18-6-686 |
| 16:45.09 | ksk | thats not the squeezes kernel |
| 16:45.17 | ksk | you aren't inside xen, are you? |
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| 16:45.58 | jaggz|2 | no |
| 16:46.41 | msn | source of the problem is cron, cron itself is getting permission denied to execute so it cant execute anything under, |
| 16:46.42 | jaggz|2 | the latest kernel listed is linux-image-3.10-0.bpo.2-686-pae (or linux-image-3.10-0.bpo.2-rt-686-pae) |
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| 16:47.08 | jaggz|2 | the latest non-bpo version is linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae |
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| 16:47.53 | jaggz|2 | msn, ? |
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| 16:49.01 | msn | i have been trying to fix the issue with cron on my server, apparently cron is just failieg to run somewhere, i am getting permission denied in cron.log and none of the cron jobs execute, and the only error is permission denied, so its logical that cron itself is having trouble executing why i am trying to figure |
| 16:49.23 | msn | it executes fine from the caommand line so its some file permission issue |
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| 16:50.36 | jaggz|2 | the release notes say to just install the package itself (linux-image-3.10-0.bpo.2-686-pae in my case is the closest.. ) but then I get lots of unresolvable dependency issues |
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| 16:51.19 | jaggz|2 | perhaps going to a non-bpo? here's my sources file http://vvcap.net/db/GqC5C6i2aRTNlCMWDZYd.htp |
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| 16:51.38 | msn | the problem is there is no other error anywhere |
| 16:51.53 | Guest1101 | hi |
| 16:51.55 | jaggz|2 | msn, what's the error log message show exactly? |
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| 16:52.39 | msn | CRON[9408]: Permission denied |
| 16:52.44 | Guest1101 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.47 | msn | different number but same thinge verytime |
| 16:53.16 | jaggz|2 | someone else is probably better qualified to respond.. but have you tried reinstalling the cron package? |
| 16:53.54 | jaggz|2 | so, running cron's binary from shell works, but from the init script fails? |
| 16:54.02 | jaggz|2 | and, you see it in ps? |
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| 16:54.34 | zykotick9 | jaggz|2: resinstalling under gnu/linux is "almost" always a waste of time. and i'd imagine, trying to remove cron will want to remove 80+% of the system. |
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| 16:55.53 | jaggz|2 | perhaps there's a verbosity setting? also, if crond is running, perhaps you can strace -p<cron's pid> to watch it |
| 16:56.23 | msn | let me try that jaggz |
| 16:56.48 | jaggz|2 | you can restrict it to strace -p<pid> -e open or -e exec, but I'm not sure which call it would make (other exec*() calls) so I'd just look over everything. |
| 16:57.10 | jaggz|2 | zykotick9: good point :) |
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| 16:57.29 | jaggz|2 | ksk: how do I upgrade the kernel if it has tons of dependencies which fail? |
| 16:57.49 | ksk | jaggz|2: it seems to me you fucked it up previously |
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| 16:58.10 | ksk | i have no time right now to dig into that, sorry. some other falks may be able to help though |
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| 16:58.54 | jaggz|2 | np |
| 16:58.55 | jaggz|2 | thanks |
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| 16:59.34 | msn | jaggz: this is what i get http://pastebin.com/Y3rJmpRa |
| 16:59.44 | mumpitzel | jaggz|2: upgrading from squeeze to wheezy backports. why did you even think for a second this would be a good idea? |
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| 17:00.07 | jaggz|2 | I want to go from squeeze to wheezy.. not necessarily backports |
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| 17:02.21 | jaggz|2 | mumpitzel: I'll go to the non bpo latest kernel.. that seems to at least resolve dependencies |
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| 17:04.18 | mumpitzel | jaggz|2: why do you have bpo in your sources.list in the first place? |
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| 17:05.51 | LU324 | no ideas about my radeon driver question? |
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| 17:06.52 | Jonuz | which gnome-shell version debian has by default? |
| 17:06.58 | Jonuz | debian wheezy* |
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| 17:07.06 | mumpitzel | LU324: what radeon chip? |
| 17:07.31 | zykotick9 | !versions gnome-shell |
| 17:07.31 | LU324 | mumpitzel: HD 4850 |
| 17:07.44 | zykotick9 | ,versions gnome-shell |
| 17:07.45 | judd | Package: gnome-shell on i386 -- wheezy: 3.4.2-7; wheezy-proposed-updates: 3.4.2-7+deb7u1; jessie: 3.4.2-15+b1; sid: 3.4.2-16; experimental: 3.8.4-1 |
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| 17:08.08 | mumpitzel | LU324: and without "nomodeset" what is the content of your Xorg.0.log when you try starting X? |
| 17:09.19 | Jonuz | tyvm |
| 17:10.57 | LU324 | mumpitzel: the log of when it fails with the radeon driver? |
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| 17:10.59 | Jonuz | anyone has idea if gnome-shell 3.8 works well in wheezy? |
| 17:11.03 | mumpitzel | yes |
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| 17:11.40 | mtn | Jonuz: not a good idea and why do you think you need it? |
| 17:11.53 | zykotick9 | Jonuz: a) probably not the best idea (experimental expects sid) and b) i'm not sure gnome 3.8 is even finished packaging yet. |
| 17:12.15 | Jonuz | ah, ok :P |
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| 17:14.10 | pederindi | Hi, some help to get emacs24 in debian wheezy (stable) ?? Thanks! |
| 17:14.25 | LU324 | mumpitzel: http://pastebin.com/tdm0Uusd |
| 17:15.14 | jaggz|2 | mumpitzel: I removed backports.. now when I try to upgrade it wants libc upgraded. libc wants a new kernel. installation note says to install a -t lenny kernel |
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| 17:17.09 | mumpitzel | jaggz|2: you currently run which kernel? |
| 17:17.55 | mumpitzel | jaggz|2: you do not run squeeze. you are running 2.6.18 from ETCH. that is debian 4.0. reinstall your debian |
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| 17:18.26 | jaggz|2 | so I should go etch -> squeeze.. |
| 17:18.32 | mumpitzel | you can't do that |
| 17:18.36 | mumpitzel | jaggz|2: are you upgrading a VPS? |
| 17:18.37 | jaggz|2 | I'm remote.. servers are hours away |
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| 17:19.01 | jaggz|2 | no, physical machine |
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| 17:19.08 | jaggz|2 | boots into debian |
| 17:19.09 | mumpitzel | !etch |
| 17:19.09 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
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| 17:19.46 | mumpitzel | see this? ancient. especially with the mess you made right now, reinstall the server |
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| 17:20.09 | jaggz|2 | can I do that from remote? |
| 17:20.29 | mumpitzel | if you have to ask... |
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| 17:20.58 | jaggz|2 | heh |
| 17:21.00 | somiaj | jaggz|2: wheezy's installer has an ssh option. Is there someone at the datacenter you can call and have them do the first few steps of the install. You can finish it via remote. |
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| 17:21.28 | mumpitzel | LU324: kms is not enabled. check your dmesg output and kernel logs for it. also check that the "radeon" kernel module is loaded |
| 17:21.30 | somiaj | but yea sounds like you have a mess, I would reisntall jaggz|2 as opposed to trying to fix your mess by upgrading from etch->lenny->squeeze->wheezy, many places it could break. |
| 17:21.31 | petn-randall | Remember to back up any data. |
| 17:22.05 | jaggz|2 | I have a kvm switch setup .. can view from remote.. |
| 17:23.01 | jaggz|2 | but I don't have a cd in there.. I suppose I could try to get them to burn a cd or usb boot.. but we're entering a bit more difficulty there hm.. |
| 17:23.43 | jaggz|2 | but I went to lenny before |
| 17:24.26 | somiaj | jaggz|2: your kernel is still etch, it could be you have some etch/lenny mix. Again it is a mess. You could try to fix it via apt and upgrading, but I think you may find it more hassel then a fresh install of wheezy |
| 17:24.57 | LU324 | mumpitzel: http://pastebin.com/0xQScaW9 <- i see there is a firmware-linux-nonfree package, i guess i should install that, right? |
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| 17:28.17 | mumpitzel | LU324: yes. |
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| 17:32.03 | jaggz|2 | thanks for the help |
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| 17:34.05 | LU324 | mumpitzel: thanks, that missing package was the problem, both the console and X seem to work fine again now |
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| 17:34.45 | martin____ | hey all |
| 17:35.20 | martin____ | i have a huawei echolife hg532 modem/router |
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| 17:35.32 | martin____ | anyone know how i can get linux on there? |
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| 17:45.40 | null0 | anyone know GRE and source NAT'ing in debian? |
| 17:46.39 | martin____ | anyone?? |
| 17:46.54 | zykotick9 | null0: didn't i just see this in #ubuntu, oh, yes i did - but at least you switched ubuntu with debian... |
| 17:46.59 | mumpitzel | martin____: ##linux. this is debian support |
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| 17:48.17 | null0 | i did |
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| 17:51.17 | null0 | can anyone point me to a link explaining source nat before GRE encapsulation? |
| 17:51.26 | null0 | is that something possible even? |
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| 17:51.56 | SmashingX | how do I know where my grub is currently installeD? |
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| 17:52.37 | peterrooney | !cross post |
| 17:52.37 | dpkg | Posting the same question in several places at the same time (IRC channels, news groups, mailing lists, forums) is impolite; your time is NOT more valuable than everyone else's. Your question might be answered elsewhere, meanwhile we are wasting our time doing research for a problem you've already solved. Cross-posting can also make you look like a spammer and get you k:lined. See also <multiple ask> <hurry>. |
| 17:53.30 | mumpitzel | SmashingX: you look at the first sectors of disks or partitions with a hex editor |
| 17:54.04 | SmashingX | mumpitzel: how's that? |
| 17:54.13 | mumpitzel | hm? |
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| 17:56.09 | mumpitzel | 1smthe end of the first sector has a "GRUB" string |
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| 17:57.58 | null0 | found iptables PREROUTING, seems to be what I need. |
| 17:58.29 | null0 | sry for x-posts. i don't frequent IRC enough to know better |
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| 18:03.35 | jaggz|2 | update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-686 mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp/mkinitramfs_A9Joxd/lib/udev/': File exists |
| 18:03.41 | jaggz|2 | so far so good, except that.. |
| 18:03.55 | jaggz|2 | it fails to install because the directory already exists.. should I --force it? |
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| 18:08.16 | deego | <mumpitzel> you can't do that <<=== mumpitzel: curious, why? |
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| 18:08.38 | deego | mumpitzel: Replace etch by squeeze and apt-get update.. upgrade.... won't work? |
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| 18:08.49 | mwarning | Hello! "start-stop-daemon --start --exec myprogram -- daemon --path 'abc'" does not remove the quotes as the shell would do. |
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| 18:09.56 | mwarning | What do I have to do to remove the quotes without breaking the arguments when path include spaces? |
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| 18:11.39 | deego | mwarning: stupid question: What's the difference between start-stop-daemon and using /etc/init.d.. ? I've always heard the latter being preferred. |
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| 18:13.17 | mwarning | deego, I grabbed the init script example in /etc/init.d/; and it uses start-stop-daemon |
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| 18:13.42 | niceone1 | hey can anyone help me get an openvpn account to work? |
| 18:15.10 | niceone1 | Options error: --nobind doesn't make sense unless used with --remote |
| 18:15.43 | mwarning | deego, I think I found the answer: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1661193/start-stop-daemon-quoted-arguments-misinterpreted |
| 18:16.05 | niceone1 | also, why does my network-manager app have all greyed out boxes under the vpn section? |
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| 18:18.05 | deego | mwarning: nice |
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| 18:18.57 | SuperNull | can someone point me in the direction of how to mount a software raid partition for file recovery (i need to grab a few files off it). it looks empty.. no partitions on the table ? |
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| 18:19.33 | qwebirc29536 | Hi everyone. Is debian sid considered very unstable for daily use? |
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| 18:19.46 | jhutchins | !sid |
| 18:19.46 | dpkg | it has been said that sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
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| 18:22.13 | deego | =) |
| 18:22.19 | jaggz|2 | I don't have edge anywhere |
| 18:22.21 | jhutchins | qwebirc29536: Not recommended for a daily use system. |
| 18:22.31 | deego | qwebirc29536: You might prefer testing over sid. :) |
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| 18:23.22 | jhutchins | SuperNull: Is it part of a mirror set? |
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| 18:24.22 | SuperNull | jhutchins yes.. |
| 18:24.30 | SuperNull | i also think this damn live cd doesnt have MD support. |
| 18:24.33 | SuperNull | erm. |
| 18:24.40 | jaggz|2 | what should I do if my update-initramfs install fails? |
| 18:24.43 | SuperNull | my newb is killing me today. |
| 18:24.45 | jaggz|2 | because the udev already exists |
| 18:25.22 | jhutchins | jaggz|2: It's not udev that already exists. |
| 18:25.39 | jhutchins | jaggz|2: Have you tried this more than once? |
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| 18:26.25 | jaggz|2 | no, just the apt-get update once, and initramfs-tools alone.. |
| 18:26.30 | jaggz|2 | I get mkdir: cannot create directory `/tmp/mkinitramfs_6x0uq4/lib/udev/': File exists |
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| 18:27.33 | jhutchins | jaggz|2: Does /tmp/mkinitramfs_6x0uq4/lib/udev/ exist? |
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| 18:28.10 | jaggz|2 | yes, with one file, firmware.agent (a symlink) in it |
| 18:29.05 | jhutchins | jaggz|2: Read the error message again. |
| 18:29.37 | jaggz|2 | deferring update |
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| 18:30.14 | jaggz|2 | the whole upgrade stops there though.. I'm not sure if everything stops or if that's the last thing |
| 18:30.22 | jaggz|2 | might need to reboot into the new kernel |
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| 18:30.35 | jaggz|2 | that did go in successfully |
| 18:31.07 | msn | Still getting the error from cron.d here is the output of strace -p<pid> -verbose http://pastebin.com/vtrtnRjH |
| 18:31.45 | jhutchins | jaggz|2: If you do not have a good initramfs, your system will not be bootable. |
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| 18:32.22 | jhutchins | jaggz|2: I would suggest that you remove mkinitramfs_6x0uq4 from /tmp and try again. |
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| 18:34.51 | jaggz|2 | thank you very much for the warning :) |
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| 18:36.32 | jaggz|2 | It's giving the same error with other _xxxx directories |
| 18:36.57 | jaggz|2 | it still says "deferring update (trigger activated)" by the way |
| 18:37.37 | jhutchins | jaggz|2: It should be safe to remove everything in /tmp. dpkg _should_ be generating a new random string for each run, I'm not sure why yours isn't. |
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| 18:38.50 | jaggz|2 | it seems like it is.. then it's erroring on the one it just created |
| 18:39.13 | jhutchins | jaggz|2: Which release/kernel is this? |
| 18:39.18 | jaggz|2 | it says it failed to install and is trying to recover, and then gives another random one |
| 18:39.45 | jaggz|2 | I went from etch to lenny a long time ago, and then was going from lenny to squeeze |
| 18:40.03 | jaggz|2 | but the guys here tell me my kernel (2.6.18-6-686) is an etch kernel |
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| 18:40.28 | mumpitzel | jaggz|2: then you didn't upgrade to lenny properly |
| 18:40.30 | jelly-home | jaggz|2: indeed it is. Are you following the squeeze release notes forthe upgrade? |
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| 18:40.49 | mumpitzel | and squeeze doesn't run with a kernel that old afaik. udev won't do it |
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| 18:41.07 | jaggz|2 | well.. I think I might not have gone to lenny properly, like you said.. so I think I should get that cleanly functioning, as it's still supported |
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| 18:41.17 | jaggz|2 | if I can get to that, then going to squeeze should be.. a breeze.. |
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| 18:41.39 | jaggz|2 | I do have KVM access, but no physical access to do a physical upgrade |
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| 18:41.54 | jaggz|2 | plus it's a live server, so whatever I can get done with just a reboot inbetween, would be helpful |
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| 18:44.26 | jaggz|2 | I have 2.6.32 installed and ready to be booted into.. if initramfs won't fail.. :/ |
| 18:44.44 | jaggz|2 | but I suppose in that case I might slip back into 2.6.18 |
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| 18:45.24 | pederindi | small question: what about AMD Radeon HD at GNU/Linux Debian, it's okay? I only have experience with nvidia and intel, and it was good... I see this: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22 an is a guide similar to nvidia models... Anyone with experiencie with this ati cards can say me "hey, you will enjoy with it in GNU/Linux Debian" ??? Thanks! |
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| 18:48.23 | jelly-home | jaggz|2: Reserve at least 2-3 hours of downtime for any release upgrade. More if you haven't done it on the test system first. |
| 18:48.59 | jaggz|2 | thanks.. so.. best if I wait until night when the system's less used.. although there are a few less people here as well.. :/ :) |
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| 18:50.41 | omid8bimo | hey im getting this err when i use sudo, "sudo: unable to resolve host dhcppc1" but my hostname is something else in /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts; any idea? |
| 18:51.45 | somiaj | pederindi: the non-free ati modules keep getting better. Over all I think the non-free nvidia blob is better, but it is mostly a wash these days. With debian there are non-free fglrx dkms packges to make creating the module easy for your system. Biggest issue I've seen is older cards aren't supported (you need a legacy module of which this split is new and you may not have much luck) |
| 18:52.43 | somiaj | pederindi: on the plus side the free radeon driver is actually quite good and unless you want the most out of your 3d preformance I would suggest that. For example the 4200 card in my laptop is to old for the wheezy fglrx drivers so I use the radeon instead. |
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| 18:53.54 | somiaj | pederindi: the last note is if your ati card is so new it isn't supported by the fglrx version in wheezy you may have some issues too. |
| 18:54.03 | somiaj | (but the same is true for bleeding edge nvidia gpus) |
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| 18:56.50 | omid8bimo | anyone? |
| 18:57.25 | somiaj | omid8bimo: what does 'hostname' return? |
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| 19:00.10 | jkaberg | say I have two applications running debian (squeeze) and I want to prioritize bandwith so that if both are accessed nr1 gets prioritized, how would one do this? |
| 19:00.55 | omid8bimo | somiaj: dhcppc1 |
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| 19:01.42 | somiaj | omid8bimo: if that is the hostname, you need to make it resolve correctly with /etc/hosts or the nameserver. you don't see mention of that hostname in either /etc/hostname or /etc/hosts? |
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| 19:01.52 | omid8bimo | funny thing is, when system boots up, my hostname is what i had saved, but after a few hours or so that i use sudo, suddenly i get this error and hostname is changed! |
| 19:01.58 | pederindi | somiaj: I see you have a "little old" ati gpu. But you see, that the experience with new gpu's of ati is similar to nvidia... So that's why I'm thinking to buy a laptop with it. Unfortunally, i will need to decode HD video (video editing) |
| 19:01.59 | lkeijser | hi, how can I find out who maintains a certain package? |
| 19:02.23 | pederindi | somiaj: so I will use the non-free driver |
| 19:02.39 | omid8bimo | somiaj: no, dhcppc1 is not my actual hostname and not mentioned in /etc/hostname or /etc/hosts |
| 19:02.48 | mumpitzel | lkeijser: apt-cache show <package> |grep Maintainer |
| 19:03.06 | somiaj | omid8bimo: it is what your machine things its hostname is, so guess you need to figure out why. check 'man hostname' |
| 19:03.42 | mumpitzel | pederindi: laptops with nvidia videochips use optimus, which at least at this point in time often make huge problems |
| 19:03.45 | somiaj | pederindi: the fglrx package in wheezy supports the hd5000 though hd7000 releases. Are you planning on getting something newer than an hd7000? |
| 19:03.49 | lkeijser | mumpitzel: thanks |
| 19:04.13 | mumpitzel | pederindi: do you really need a fast videochip in your laptop? except for playing games, a intel videochip integrated into the cpu is fine |
| 19:04.21 | somiaj | ,v fglrx-driver |
| 19:04.22 | judd | Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3squeeze1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-6+point-3; jessie/non-free: 1:13.4-3; sid/non-free: 1:13.4-3; experimental/non-free: 1:13.8~beta1-2 |
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| 19:11.04 | jaggz|2 | this page http://ubuntugenius.wordpress.com/2010/05/24/fix-a-failed-initramfs-update-do-it-before-you-reboot/ |
| 19:11.35 | jaggz|2 | says to edit the update-initramfs.conf to change it to “update_initramfs=no“ |
| 19:12.10 | jaggz|2 | that 'worked'.. now I have 0 packages needing anything and, as they say, "Hopefully, everything should be fine when you reboot" .. heh |
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| 19:26.21 | pederindi | mumpitzel: oh yes, is newer than 7000 :/ : http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7340.70636.0.html |
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| 19:28.57 | mumpitzel | pederindi: you write to the wrong person. but: this is exactly a 7000 series radeon. |
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| 19:30.34 | pederindi | mumpitzel: so it's in... it will work, no? |
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| 19:31.49 | Su7 | I'm looking for a good streaming server on Debian 7 |
| 19:32.21 | Su7 | I'd like to stream some video material from my Wheezy server to my PC |
| 19:32.36 | Su7 | does anyone know a good (possibly free) solution ? |
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| 19:33.46 | jbraeg | Su7: create a samba share? |
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| 19:34.29 | Su7 | jbraeg: hmmm that is to consider yes |
| 19:34.44 | Su7 | what about Red5 ? Ever heard of it ? |
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| 19:35.19 | Su7 | Would WebDAV also permit me to stream files ? |
| 19:35.53 | jhutchins | Su7: vlc is supposed to be capable of streaming. |
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| 19:36.52 | jbraeg | Su7: i haven't heard of it, but i'm familiar with rtmp. if you're sharing to a pc, would you really want to run a media server? |
| 19:37.26 | jhutchins | Su7: There's also mediatomb. |
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| 19:38.04 | Su7 | jhutchins, I took a look to vlc but it does not look like it's fully compatible https://www.videolan.org/streaming-features.html |
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| 19:38.39 | Su7 | jbraeg, I'm looking at streaming it through a share right now |
| 19:39.18 | jhutchins | Su7: That's not streaming. |
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| 19:41.25 | Su7 | jhutchins: why ? as long as I'm not downloading the media before I can play it I consider it as streaming |
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| 19:43.48 | jhutchins | Su7: You can consider it whatever you want. |
| 19:44.01 | jhutchins | Su7: You're just playing it from a shared drive. |
| 19:44.18 | Hoel | aká streaming it |
| 19:44.19 | Hoel | :S |
| 19:44.49 | msn | that was a bad hack i just did to make cacti work in cron :/ |
| 19:45.04 | jelly-home | Hoel: accessing a mounted filesystem might not be considered streaming by the application |
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| 19:45.45 | Hoel | But watching a video over a networked shared, mounted or not, is was I would call streaming |
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| 19:46.32 | jelly-home | this means the application will typically not apply extra buffering and other tuneups common for streaming over a streaming protocol |
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| 19:48.30 | Su7 | I'm looking at ampache at the moment |
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| 19:52.10 | Mathisen | Su7: try sybsonic >> http://www.subsonic.org/pages/index.jsp always worked great for me |
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| 19:54.00 | Su7 | JSP :( the server's CPU is a bit old |
| 19:54.29 | Mathisen | subsonic not sybsonic :) |
| 19:55.15 | Su7 | yes that's what I'm talking about http://www.subsonic.org/pages/installation.jsp#debian |
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| 20:07.34 | SmashingX | ? |
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| 20:11.36 | kyze | hey guys, quick question about fixing permissions: i recovered a raid after having my installation crashing and now i cant access the folder in it, even after chowning them to root:customgroup with my primary user in customgroup im getting permission denied :( |
| 20:12.21 | crumb | which arm versions does the debian arm repo support? |
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| 20:15.01 | quinso | What package do I need to have ncurses.h and curses.h? |
| 20:16.16 | recall | quinso: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ncurses.h&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
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| 20:22.13 | quinso | recall: ty |
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| 20:23.06 | dev11 | should I put new sourcers in the sources list file in the default debian 7 installation? |
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| 20:26.51 | somiaj | dev11: depends on how you installed and if you had internet or not. /msg dpkg wheezy sources.list -- use that as a guide for internet sources |
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| 20:28.46 | dev11 | somiaj, I installed debian 7 on the vps with the terminal that hosting company gave me |
| 20:28.57 | monsterco | Hi everyone - I installed a new HDD and I just did "pvcreate" and "vgcreate", do I have to also "lvcreate" to make the space available to me? |
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| 20:30.09 | somiaj | dev11: again read the factoid from dpkg, it will tell you the sources.list you need. If your hosting company has a special repo or not you have to ask them |
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| 20:30.39 | recall | I'm having some trouble finding good information on Debian's automatic mounting for usb drives. I think my system is now using udisks and policy kit. The permissions on any usb drive I put in are 755 with root being the owner. What's the best way to fix this? |
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| 20:31.03 | recall | Where fix implies giving me as a non-privileged user write access |
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| 20:32.21 | nostromo | Question:- Iceweasel was absent from the experimental repo on my last update. Is this state of affairs temporary or permanent plz? |
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| 20:33.12 | raSter^ | guys will the command apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade install most of the security updates i needed? |
| 20:33.39 | AimHere | nostromo, I was always under the impression that experimental stuff was always rather transient |
| 20:34.06 | Sevet | AimHere: ditto, i thought you ran sid and installed from experimental when needed |
| 20:34.14 | Sevet | raSter^: should do |
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| 20:34.33 | AimHere | Well you have to do that, because experimental doesn't have enough stuff to make a full debian |
| 20:34.49 | Sevet | raSter^: the first two should usually be enough |
| 20:35.01 | raSter^ | ok thanks |
| 20:35.45 | raSter^ | Sevet, can you suggest an ip table firewall or any other script/application that could lessen the trouble of some simple ddos? (i know complex ones are hard to handle) |
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| 20:36.22 | monsterco | Is "lvcreate" a necessary part of making a new HDD available to system or is pvcreate and vgcreate enough? |
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| 20:36.49 | nostromo | AimHere: You use experimental if you want the very latest. Forb the last 14months, experminetal has had iceweasel. And the pkg was always good quality. I understand I can get latest firefox from other places. |
| 20:37.11 | jhutchins | raSter^: Only the upstream router can protect you. Once it reaches a local firewall it's already on your system. |
| 20:37.19 | AimHere | Well now the latestiest iceweasel that Debian has is in sid |
| 20:37.42 | AimHere | I thought experimental was for the stuff that was so latest it was likely broke |
| 20:38.42 | raSter^ | jhutchins, and i dont have access to that do i? im only a vps user. |
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| 20:38.45 | jhutchins | AimHere: That's correct. |
| 20:39.10 | jhutchins | raSter^: Yeah, you don't even have access to the actual OS/Kernel, so there's really no point. |
| 20:39.15 | nostromo | Well I found experimental iceweasel to be good qual. But a moot point. To keep things reliable, I will perhaps pin iceweasel to unstable instead. |
| 20:39.30 | jhutchins | nostromo: It's not a question of quality. |
| 20:39.34 | jhutchins | !experimental |
| 20:39.34 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
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| 20:40.19 | raSter^ | jhutchins, so what only i can do? Atleast. SHould i even install a firewall? |
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| 20:42.46 | jhutchins | raSter^: It can be handy if you need to block certain address blocks, or certain addresses. You can throttle services like ssh so they don't get stormed, but running on a non-standard port works better. |
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| 20:43.43 | jhutchins | raSter^: Best you can do is make sure your provider is running a good firewall - which should be a dedicated device right at the network connection. |
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| 20:45.14 | raSter^ | ok i guess thats not under my control then. Yep i already changed default ports |
| 20:45.26 | raSter^ | i heard about this ddos deflate, does it really work fine? |
| 20:45.46 | raSter^ | installed fail2ban also. |
| 20:47.38 | jhutchins | raSter^: I've run for decades without them. |
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| 20:48.35 | bullgard4 | On a remote Linux server the output of '~ # cat /etc/exports' includes these 2 lines: " /i-data/0xxxxxxx/music *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check,wdelay,no_root_squash) #" and "/i-data/0xxxxxxx/nfs/podcasts 192.168.178.0/24 (rw,sync,no_subtree_check,wdelay,no_root_squash) #Meine Podcastepisoden." Why does '~$ mount' on my Wheezy NAS client reflect the first line and not the second? (line 1 works,... |
| 20:48.36 | bullgard4 | ...line 2 not.) |
| 20:48.37 | jhutchins | raSter^: I have heard of people that have locked themselves out with fail2ban - make sure it expires the bans. |
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| 20:48.50 | raSter^ | lol ok |
| 20:49.13 | raSter^ | oh anyway this vps is just for one and for bouncer |
| 20:49.25 | raSter^ | i really hope i could replace my own desktop windows with it |
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| 20:49.36 | raSter^ | just for fun* rather |
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| 20:50.04 | raSter^ | nmap, whois, and a small webpage thats really have no use. |
| 20:50.11 | jhutchins | raSter^: I haven't used Windows since ~2004, except for work where it's mostly just a dumb terminal. |
| 20:50.23 | raSter^ | cool jhutchins |
| 20:50.38 | raSter^ | would you prefer debian as my new desktop OS? |
| 20:50.46 | jhutchins | raSter^: I upgraded my hardware and W95 wouldn't run any more. |
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| 20:51.25 | raSter^ | oh the new bios thing... old os really wont work |
| 20:51.28 | jhutchins | raSter^: Yes, I run Debian these days. I've used other distros in the past. Stability and reliability are the highest priorities for me these days, I need my tools to work. |
| 20:51.30 | monsterco | Debian gurus - how can I make sure that my /etc/fstab is updated with current information? |
| 20:51.43 | raSter^ | i forgot theres a new term to that bios. its not BIOS actually. forgot it |
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| 20:51.52 | jhutchins | raSter^: Actually, 2004. Main chipset support. |
| 20:51.59 | jhutchins | !uefi |
| 20:51.59 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" supports installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. See also <errata>. http://www.uefi.org/ |
| 20:52.09 | raSter^ | ok uefi yes thats it |
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| 20:52.50 | raSter^ | jhutchins, what GUI you using when on debian? |
| 20:53.21 | jhutchins | raSter^: xfce. KDE4 really messed up on me, and I never did like Gnome. Looked too much like OS/2. |
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| 20:53.58 | raSter^ | umm can you show me screenshots with it? :P |
| 20:54.07 | raSter^ | i dont mind being pmed by the way :D |
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| 20:54.34 | jhutchins | raSter^: http://www.xfce.org/about/screenshots |
| 20:54.45 | raSter^ | oh. cool |
| 20:55.10 | jhutchins | Mine are pretty boring - like I said, it's a tool. |
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| 20:56.12 | zenaty | is there a live CD image of the testing version of debian? |
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| 20:57.48 | jhutchins | !kanotics |
| 20:58.41 | raSter^ | jhutchins, one last question, how do i restart sshd? |
| 20:58.54 | raSter^ | jsut changed the port again now. |
| 20:59.17 | jhutchins | raSter^: /etc/init.d/sshd reload|restart |
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| 21:00.41 | rajesh | hello. having some trouble automounting sdcards. tried usbmount (doesn't recognize), udev rules, fstab entry, but it doesn't do the automount bit. |
| 21:00.46 | rajesh | works manually |
| 21:00.52 | monsterco | anyone can help me with update of my fstab? I just added a new HDD and want to make sure I am having all right lines there |
| 21:01.20 | jhutchins | !paste |
| 21:01.21 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 21:01.42 | jhutchins | monsterco: Post it. |
| 21:01.57 | raSter^ | jhutchins: what i mean was "service ssh restart" command |
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| 21:02.34 | jhutchins | raSter^: Yes, that works too. My habits pre-dat the "service" command. |
| 21:02.37 | rajesh | sd-cards...automount...anyone...? |
| 21:02.41 | jhutchins | pre-date that is. |
| 21:02.50 | rajesh | raSter^: linode user? |
| 21:02.54 | jhutchins | rajesh: Upi |
| 21:03.13 | jhutchins | rajesh: Sorry. You'd need to use udev rules for it to be triggered when you insert the card. |
| 21:03.41 | rajesh | jhutchins: right, been trying that. can i forgo fstab altogether then? |
| 21:03.43 | rajesh | i suppose so. |
| 21:04.05 | jhutchins | rajesh: Yes, just like USB drives can work without fstab entries. |
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| 21:04.19 | raSter^ | rajesh nope. iniz |
| 21:04.31 | jhutchins | rajesh: You may need an fstb entry to specify mount options like "user" though. |
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| 21:06.08 | rajesh | jhutchins: good point. i'll leave the fstab entry, and see if i can get udev to mount that fs. |
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| 21:06.26 | rajesh | thanks. |
| 21:06.50 | jhutchins | rajesh: Good luck! |
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| 21:07.23 | jhutchins | Reminds me, I should test the SD slot on my new netbook. Last one didn't have working drivers. |
| 21:08.48 | zz0 | hi all, which file system with screenshot is best for cluster enviroment? |
| 21:09.10 | jhutchins | zz0: Perhaps you mean snapshot? |
| 21:09.39 | recall | jhutchins: do you know where i might look for setting permissions on that automatic mount? |
| 21:09.56 | zz0 | jhutchins: sorry i was thinking in other thing when writing... i mean snapshot |
| 21:10.10 | jhutchins | recall: Hang on, I never remember... |
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| 21:12.09 | jhutchins | !tell recall about user accessible ntfs |
| 21:12.16 | jhutchins | recall: Same principle. |
| 21:12.50 | zz0 | jhutchins: any suggests? |
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| 21:14.12 | dev1 | I have isntalled nginx on debian 7 it was ok it runned, then I stoped it and now if I try to start it again it says this: Starting nginx: nginx: (emerg) bind() to 0.0.0.0:80 failed (98: Address already in use). This is written on 5 rows |
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| 21:14.30 | dev1 | can someone help? |
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| 21:14.46 | jhutchins | zz0: I really don't have any experience with it. I've heard that standard ext? will work. |
| 21:15.22 | jhutchins | dev1: You already have something running and listening on port 80, or you have multiple configurations in your setup. |
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| 21:17.16 | recall | zz0: are you thinking about btrfs? It supports snapshots, but I haven't got any experience with it |
| 21:17.21 | dev1 | it had apache 2 running I am not sure why when I didn't choose to install aoache when I installed debian |
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| 21:18.59 | jhutchins | dev1: While you can run both they must listen on different ports. |
| 21:19.17 | dev1 | na man |
| 21:19.23 | kruug | I'm looking at playing around with LFS, but I was wondering if there was a way to install apt so that I can still use apt-get on the final product. Is it possible? |
| 21:19.26 | dev1 | thanks |
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| 21:20.30 | jhutchins | kruug: Yes, but it would be pretty ridiculous. You can compile and install it from source, but what would you use for repositories? |
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| 21:22.32 | kruug | jhutchins: wouldn't normal debian repositories work? Or is there a resource that shows how to set up a repository? |
| 21:22.34 | zz0 | recall: yes... exacly this... |
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| 21:26.07 | pederindi | someone with emacs24 in debian stable (wheezy), suggestions ? |
| 21:26.17 | pederindi | sorry, is a question! |
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| 21:36.51 | r0b- | is jessie half ass stable yet? |
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| 21:44.43 | o_be_one | hi all, i'm running Debian Wheezy on a Proxmox 3.1 container and i have an issue with Apache2 virtualhost : they doesn't work. Same config on a Debian 6 dedicated (not CT or VM) and no problem :( |
| 21:46.30 | socomm | o_be_one: whats the problem? |
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| 21:46.59 | o_be_one | socomm: i've seen logs, and nothing about this prob |
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| 21:47.50 | o_be_one | socomm: i have 2 domains and i need to redirect them to a specified directory (virtualhost so). But i came to default vhost : "It works!" |
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| 21:48.23 | o_be_one | a2ensite ok, my vhost files are in sites-enabled, but the vhost doesnt apply :( |
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| 21:50.17 | o_be_one | ive read many time manuals, supports and tutos to find what i miss, but i dont find :( |
| 21:50.18 | plotino | hello |
| 21:50.38 | plotino | do you know which file can i read with 'aplay'? |
| 21:51.12 | qaz | wav, au |
| 21:51.56 | plotino | m |
| 21:52.08 | plotino | i have tried wav but i got only noiser |
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| 21:53.49 | o_be_one | socomm: are you searching for my problem ? What do you think about it ? I can answer your questions to enhance your help about my problem |
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| 21:55.04 | qaz | plotino: http://linux.die.net/man/1/aplay |
| 21:55.11 | qaz | on audio file there is tons |
| 21:55.38 | qaz | but is better to use wav and au |
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| 21:57.23 | monsterco | can someone please tell me the significance of 0 and 1 in this line: /dev/pve/data /var/lib/vz ext3 defaults 0 1 |
| 21:57.52 | monsterco | I am adding a 2nd HDD and I want to know if I should append 0 1 or 0 2? second HDD is just to be used for storage and not booting |
| 21:58.04 | Nik05 | something with when to do fschk |
| 21:58.36 | Nik05 | check manual |
| 21:59.32 | qaz | first 0 if need to be dump (really old) |
| 21:59.40 | qaz | last one |
| 21:59.44 | phy1729 | monsterco: man fstab |
| 21:59.56 | qaz | is 0 = filesystems that are not always mounted, or removable media should have 0 |
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| 22:00.14 | qaz | 1 = checking root partition |
| 22:00.23 | qaz | 2= checking not root partition |
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| 22:01.42 | Nik05 | so proably 0 2 |
| 22:01.49 | qaz | yup |
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| 22:02.11 | Nik05 | when this it need to take a dump? :P |
| 22:02.44 | qaz | W.C. maybe ;) |
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| 22:03.13 | Nik05 | huh what did i just say? :S |
| 22:03.34 | Nik05 | this > does |
| 22:04.13 | DrOwl | Hi All, I have a Audio / USB device related question... |
| 22:04.14 | qaz | brb... |
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| 22:05.24 | DrOwl | I ahve a Behringer BCD3000, which is a USB audio io device, it was all working fine before but after a reboot its now only being listed as a input device and not as an output one |
| 22:07.27 | DrOwl | http://paste.debian.net/45418is the output of some pacmd commands... Strange thing is if i use Mixx it works a audio out, its just not being listed as an audio output device on the system any more |
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| 22:59.39 | JyZyXEL | how might i take mysql databases from Squeeze installation and copy them to a Wheezy installation? |
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| 23:08.43 | zykotick9 | !tell IvelfanFr about fr |
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| 23:11.03 | ddddd | is there 3rd aprty repo to isntall joomla on debian 7? |
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| 23:11.44 | abrotman | isn't joomla already in Debian? |
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| 23:12.05 | ddddd | no |
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| 23:12.18 | ddddd | I tryed apt-get install joomla can't be find that package |
| 23:13.29 | dorito_125 | Why install Joomla that way? Wouldn't want it straight in your web directory? |
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| 23:14.12 | ddddd | dorito_125, I think maybe this will be best way because it will be easiest and best to isntall security updates in the future |
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| 23:15.27 | abrotman | ddddd: you may want to ask the joomla channel |
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| 23:16.05 | dorito_125 | ddddd: Ah okay. Sorry not familiar with any repos that have it. Haven't use Joomla in a while can it update from the Control Panel? |
| 23:16.14 | ddddd | ok |
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| 23:16.32 | ddddd | dorito_125, um I am not sure which control panel |
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| 23:29.48 | kumogami | So I installed wine on a somewhat new machine, and it *removed* my glx/mesa lib links, and replaced them with x86 mesa-diverted garbage. Now everything's broken. q_q |
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| 23:39.54 | kumogami | All I had to do to fix it was plug /usr/lib/mesa back into update-alternatives as the glx provider... seemed odd. ._.; |
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| 23:53.18 | ddddd | why when I remove apache2 it is still there |
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| 23:57.18 | jordanm | ddddd, what's still there? the apache2 binary? |
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| 23:59.08 | ddddd | jordanm, when I stop nginx and try to start it again it says address is used by other procecss and that is sapache |
| 23:59.15 | ddddd | apache is active by default on my system lol |
| 23:59.28 | ddddd | If i write ip address in the browser I see apache welcome page.. |
| 23:59.47 | ddddd | also apache is there still, I can stop it and start it with /etc/init.d/apache2 |
| 23:59.58 | ddddd | i did remove --purge apache2 |