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| 00:08.00 | peterrooney | I am not the origin of that quote. |
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| 00:56.08 | mesoderm | Hey I've updated my Iceweasel to version 24.0, but I'm still getting this message when I try to use the commenting system Disqus from my debian laptop: http://imagebin.ca/v/xJblsXYmP9B ... I have no problem accessing it from other linux/mac/windows computers ... why would it think my browser is out of date? |
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| 01:03.08 | oriffice360 | where shoild be the ir camera???? |
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| 01:17.13 | honestly | anyone here postfix-literate? I have postfix on a debian 7, and it's getting permission errors trying to open the database config files |
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| 01:37.52 | peterrooney | I accidentally ran lxde settings (lxappearance), and have discovered that there's no "undo" or "cancel" in it. I can't find where the settings are really stored. I tried "touch file; <change settings>; find ~ -newer file" and erasing obvious candidates, but nothing seems to make it go back the way it was before - not even logging out and logging back in again. |
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| 01:49.01 | honestly | needed to chown my files to root:postfix. |
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| 01:50.06 | jiohdi | peterrooney, what about erasing ~/.config/lxsession |
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| 01:52.28 | JasonWoof | I can't seem to get my headset into a2dp mode anymore, as of a week or so ago (on debian unstable) |
| 01:52.45 | JasonWoof | in pavucontrol it defaults to headset or off, depending on what I put in /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf |
| 01:53.21 | JasonWoof | and changing it to a2dp in the "Configuration" tab has no effect on the "Output" tab. |
| 01:53.31 | JasonWoof | the "Output" tab always has only one choice: headset |
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| 01:53.57 | JasonWoof | oh, that's when it opens default to headset |
| 01:54.02 | hoverboard | http://www.everydayim.com/ |
| 01:54.06 | JasonWoof | when it defaults to off, I can't get it to show in the output tab at all |
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| 01:55.08 | JasonWoof | I'm connecting with: bt-audio -c "00:18:6B:A1:AF:B2" |
| 01:55.41 | peterrooney | jiohdi: because no such files. |
| 01:55.55 | jiohdi | its a directory |
| 01:55.59 | jiohdi | folder |
| 01:56.38 | jiohdi | peterrooney, you can type rm ~/.config/lxsession -R |
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| 02:00.56 | peterrooney | jiohdi: Yes, I know. I removed dirs lxterminal and lxpanel, which only had subdirs 'default' in each, and files ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini (which had the theme settings) ~/.gtkrc-2.0 |
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| 02:07.19 | jopadojpawpoj | Does debian standard (iso) come with gnome 2.x? |
| 02:08.07 | D|nA | gnome2 doesnt exist in debian7 |
| 02:08.20 | D|nA | you can get xfce or install mate desktop |
| 02:08.43 | jopadojpawpoj | what window system comes with debian standard? |
| 02:08.53 | jopadojpawpoj | 7.0 |
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| 02:09.36 | D|nA | i think nothing |
| 02:09.48 | D|nA | debian-gnome comes with gnome3 |
| 02:09.53 | jopadojpawpoj | ah so MATE is a fork of gnome2? |
| 02:10.08 | D|nA | yes |
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| 02:13.06 | jiohdi | I went i3 wm about 4 months ago, never looked back, its really great |
| 02:13.29 | jiohdi | I did add an lxpanel though, just because I do mouse things at times |
| 02:14.24 | rektide | fourty two months, three days, seven hours since i switched to awesome. it's saved my life, then it changed it. |
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| 02:14.50 | jiohdi | awesome and i3 are very close, but I like i3 better |
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| 02:16.50 | rektide | i barely touched dwm's configuration- which was one of the coolest notions i'd heard in sw, seen for sw operation- before switching to awesome. i'd touched i3 some years back but had gravitated back to dwm farily fast. |
| 02:16.56 | rektide | was there a question? |
| 02:17.46 | differentnick | i having trouble installing the nvidia legacy 304-xx there are no errors during install , but upon reboot im only using 640x480 and cant change it higher , the driver module is active , the headers are installed , and no errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log , anyone have any ideas on what could be wrong? |
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| 02:18.35 | jiohdi | nvidia drivers |
| 02:20.12 | jiohdi | I just recently went through nvidia hell, but installing nvidia-driver and nvidia-xconfig then running nvidia-xconfig |
| 02:20.14 | jiohdi | worked |
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| 02:20.45 | jiohdi | when you boot back you use nvidia-settings as root to change and save the settings |
| 02:20.58 | differentnick | i did run nvidia-xconfig as root , no joy there tho , and im using the nvidia driver module |
| 02:21.03 | jiohdi | gksu nvidia-settings |
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| 02:22.00 | jiohdi | I think its the 304-xx thing thats wrong, if you can uninstall it and then just install nvidia-driver it should work |
| 02:22.57 | differentnick | jiohdi, ok that driver had the same problem , thought i needed the 304 driver as i have a 6 series nvidia |
| 02:23.25 | monkwitdafunk | I have the 308.44... I think |
| 02:23.42 | jiohdi | I know nvidia just released a new driver but dont know how long it will be before we can get our mits on it |
| 02:23.56 | monkwitdafunk | I am very pleased with my 2008 on board 512mb |
| 02:24.04 | differentnick | ill try nvidia-driver package again and see what happens |
| 02:24.22 | jiohdi | differentnick, you might have to remove an /etc file first |
| 02:24.38 | jiohdi | I think its like /etc/X11/config.d |
| 02:24.44 | jiohdi | or something like it |
| 02:25.00 | jiohdi | config.d is a folder, its in there I think |
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| 02:27.19 | jiohdi | I cant seem to find it now |
| 02:29.01 | reavengrey | /usr/share/X11/config.d on my machine |
| 02:29.17 | reavengrey | /usr/share/X11/xorg.config.d on my machine |
| 02:29.27 | reavengrey | /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d * |
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| 02:29.57 | reavengrey | Small tip for things like this, I run a "sudo find / >all-files.txt" |
| 02:30.01 | reavengrey | Every once in a while |
| 02:30.29 | reavengrey | That way when I need to search my installation for files, etc, I don't have to actually search the whole filesystem |
| 02:30.41 | monkwitdafunk | Hi #debian. Is fine tuning input and output over a network have anything to do with selinux? |
| 02:30.46 | reavengrey | just grep 'pattern' ~/all-files.txt |
| 02:31.10 | reavengrey | prolly more to do with iptables and tc than selinux, if anything to do with selinux at all |
| 02:32.24 | monkwitdafunk | What if i choose a easy firewall configuration and use selinux |
| 02:32.46 | monkwitdafunk | Ufw block in allow out and no ping |
| 02:33.19 | monkwitdafunk | Would selinux structure IO over a network? |
| 02:35.17 | peterrooney | reavengrey: how does that improve on dpkg -S ? |
| 02:36.12 | reavengrey | dpkg -S doesn't cache all my private files |
| 02:36.12 | dpkg | Package: doesn't cache all my private files: Status: install ok installed |
| 02:36.37 | reavengrey | I can grep 'mylostfile.ext' all-files.txt |
| 02:37.23 | reavengrey | It's all in one file as well, so I don't open a bunch of other files, seek a bunch of sectors into the disk, etc |
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| 02:44.38 | peterrooney | reavengrey: then, isn't what you want "find ~ | sort > myfiles.txt" ? |
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| 02:45.49 | differentnick | still having trouble with either the 304-legacy packages or the nvidia packages , ill get the driver from nvidia , see if its just debian packages |
| 02:47.05 | reavengrey | peterrooney: no, I know what I want, and I wrote the right command for it :O |
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| 03:23.55 | bigbadben | is anyone here using gnome 3 and can it be configured to look like gnome 2? |
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| 03:24.46 | equity | you can use gnome tweak tool and different themes and shit but its not as customizable |
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| 03:26.10 | bigbadben | hmm I read alot that xfce was a good gnome2 replacement anyone have any thoughts on that |
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| 03:28.13 | differentnick | hi still having trouble installing the 304 driver in debian , the seems to install ok , no errors , just a warning about having to create an xorg.conf , so i ran nvidia-xconf as root , rebooted , driver module seems to be working but im only getting 640x480 resolution and cant get any higher anyone have any ideas on whats wrong |
| 03:28.40 | differentnick | gpu and driver details are |
| 03:28.45 | differentnick | Graphics: Card: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] bus-ID 00:0d.0 |
| 03:28.46 | differentnick | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:40.09 | WormFood | is there any way to tell, what package has a particular unicode font in it? I thought I had everything, but I just discovered a Chinese character I can't display (it's uncommon) |
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| 03:44.35 | mumpitzel | !tell WormFood about search |
| 03:44.35 | Raknymos | TESTING: 0 Irssi::Irc::Server=HASH(0x7fa55e77f168) #debian :!tell WormFood about search mumpitzel ~mumpitzel@p5DD073BF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de |
| 03:44.38 | Raknymos | mumpitzel : No |
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| 03:45.36 | mumpitzel | Raknymos: are you a bot only or do you have a human at the keyboard too? |
| 03:45.41 | LtL | Raknymos: turn whatever that is off.. please |
| 03:45.43 | WormFood | the search function has a list of all the unicode fonts are in what packages? |
| 03:45.51 | mumpitzel | WormFood: only filenames |
| 03:46.01 | WormFood | so, that does not help me, does it? |
| 03:46.39 | WormFood | did you not understand my question, or did you not read it? |
| 03:46.51 | WormFood | maybe I wasn't clear enough |
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| 03:54.20 | peterrooney | WormFood: I thought you were perfectly clear. do you know the name of the unicode font? |
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| 04:02.58 | WormFood | peterrooney, All I have is the code, that won't display. I don't know which font to install |
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| 04:03.38 | WormFood | I figured it was a long shot, that there would be a list of the actual codes somewhere, that were in each font |
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| 04:04.41 | WormFood | by the way, it's this here: 𡚦 can anyone see that properly? I'm pretty sure it'd valid |
| 04:04.42 | kryl | hi, how to see the actual modules configured in a kernel ? |
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| 04:06.16 | WormFood | kryl, it is a debian kernel, or one you compiled yourself? |
| 04:07.06 | mumpitzel | kryl: grep =m /boot/config* |
| 04:07.18 | WormFood | kryl, assuming you're running the debian kernel, look in /boot |
| 04:07.52 | WormFood | if you rolled your own kernel, it may be at /proc/config.gz |
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| 04:08.40 | mumpitzel | WormFood: it would only show for people who use utf8 for IRC and have the font installed.I use utf8 but don't use any chinese fonts so I don't have any installed and it's a simple square for me |
| 04:09.16 | WormFood | well, I do have Chinese fonts installed, and it is also a square for me (but with the code in the square) |
| 04:09.46 | mumpitzel | I use putty. not possible to have pretty codes inside squares |
| 04:09.47 | WormFood | so...I'm not sure if I'm missing something, of it that character is so uncommon (rare?) that no font has it. |
| 04:10.35 | mumpitzel | why not install all of the chinese fonts and try? can always uninstall them again |
| 04:10.51 | WormFood | honestly, I thought I did have them all installed |
| 04:12.14 | mumpitzel | then go into libreoffice where you can change fonts easily and try to see if any of them has that glyph |
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| 04:17.18 | kryl | WormFood, it's a debian kernel the default one |
| 04:17.43 | WormFood | what mumpitzel and myself said.../boot/ |
| 04:17.51 | kryl | thank you all ;) |
| 04:17.57 | WormFood | I gotta go, see y'all l8r |
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| 04:18.14 | kryl | bye all too :p |
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| 04:37.23 | LLckfan | hellp |
| 04:37.25 | LLckfan | I have a Gateway laptop and when I opened the lid the power light was on but the laptop was asleep. When I pushed the power it started flashing with the lights for the light bulb and the battery but only when it was plugged in. Is this a sign I need a new tip end for my charger? |
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| 05:29.27 | nonconvergent | http://paste.debian.net/50825/ What's that mean? |
| 05:30.09 | nonconvergent | "python-aptdaemon.pkcompat : Conflicts: packagekit but 0.7.6-3 is to be installed" |
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| 05:35.52 | peterrooney | it means python-aptdaemon.pkcompat conflicts with packagekit, and even though current aptitude settings suggest it's a very good idea to install it, it's not absolutely necessary. |
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| 05:37.01 | peterrooney | nonconvergent: it's a transitional package. in other words, answer "Y" |
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| 05:37.34 | peterrooney | nonconvergent: strike that last statement. It is not true, and comes from my misreading its description. |
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| 05:38.32 | peterrooney | nonconvergent: you can still answer "Yes" and carry on. |
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| 05:40.32 | PUPU | HI debian guys! do you have a level 4 remaster tool? |
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| 05:40.49 | tidux | so what's with the delay on pushing Mesa 9.2 to sid? |
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| 05:41.08 | tidux | if there's a mailing list I should subscribe to to keep abreast of the discussion, that would be great |
| 05:41.49 | PUPU | Can you guys help me to add the mint extras in debian? |
| 05:41.56 | peterrooney | PUPU: what is a level 4 remaster too? |
| 05:42.15 | peterrooney | !frankendebian |
| 05:42.15 | Raknymos | TESTING: 2 Irssi::Irc::Server=HASH(0x7fa55e7800f8) #debian :!frankendebian peterrooney ~peter@S0106000393e2a2bd.gv.shawcable.net |
| 05:42.15 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 05:42.18 | Raknymos | peterrooney : No |
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| 05:43.10 | tidux | I'm just itching for Mesa 9.2 in Sid so I can use -vo vdpau for playback |
| 05:43.13 | LtL | !ops Raknymos is running a trigger script, annoying the channel. |
| 05:43.13 | Raknymos | TESTING: 2 Irssi::Irc::Server=HASH(0x7fa55e77ee50) #debian :!ops Raknymos is running a trigger script, annoying the channel. LtL ~irssi@unaffiliated/ltl |
| 05:43.13 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ltl complains about: Raknymos is running a trigger script, annoying the channel. |
| 05:43.16 | Raknymos | LtL : No |
| 05:43.30 | LtL | Raknymos: what do you call it |
| 05:43.45 | LtL | Raknymos: /unload it please |
| 05:44.43 | peterrooney | LtL: it is a badly written bot. It is not listening to anyone. |
| 05:44.47 | PUPU | peterrooney: https://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmijyn.github.io%2Frelinux%2F&ei=x6ZPUo22M67I4APSroCwDQ&usg=AFQjCNHWnn37f2VyGrytahza_Z3IScfUNg&sig2=BUMN6mE1Kq553ekrM6Ks9Q&bvm=bv.53537100,d.dmg |
| 05:45.08 | PUPU | this tool can't generate level 4 iso to create iso over 4gb |
| 05:45.28 | LtL | peterrooney: probably so then. |
| 05:47.43 | peterrooney | PUPU: Which tool? |
| 05:49.47 | PUPU | peterrooney: relinux, garfio (for tuquito and ubuntu), remastersys and remaster |
| 05:50.15 | PUPU | I can't find a tool to create level 4 iso to create remaster over 4gb. |
| 05:50.36 | PUPU | Does DEBIAN have? |
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| 05:54.21 | peterrooney | k3b works fine - some have reported problems using the wodim back end, but explicitly setting growisofs as the default seems to fix it. |
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| 06:07.05 | raptor67682 | good morning |
| 06:07.38 | raptor67682 | would you know wehere i can get the keycod of keyboard? 54 is f1 for instance |
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| 06:09.28 | raptor67682 | sorry |
| 06:09.36 | raptor67682 | 59 is f1 |
| 06:09.41 | raptor67682 | 119 is End |
| 06:09.55 | raptor67682 | which keycode is it? from C |
| 06:10.15 | dcx | raptor67682: you can try xev |
| 06:10.26 | dcx | xev|grep keycode |
| 06:10.47 | raptor67682 | it is not xev |
| 06:11.05 | raptor67682 | i would kike to print the list of keys. from net nothing found |
| 06:11.22 | raptor67682 | it is a c code to dumpkeys |
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| 06:12.11 | raptor67682 | there must be on the net or book a table.... |
| 06:12.26 | tidux | try section 3 of the manual |
| 06:12.27 | tidux | aka RTFM |
| 06:12.43 | tidux | seriously, there's a ton of C programming stuff in there |
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| 06:13.49 | raptor67682 | yeah with difffferent keycodees |
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| 06:15.56 | raptor67682 | xev gives 67 for F1 but me, I have 59 |
| 06:16.06 | raptor67682 | for instamce |
| 06:16.32 | tidux | I think xev assumes a proper US-QWERTY keyboard |
| 06:16.35 | tidux | not your silly foreign ones |
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| 07:00.15 | peterrooney | anshin: IIRC, this is set at mount time. read /etc/fstab |
| 07:01.09 | rryoumaa | that's the options, not the default, no? |
| 07:01.12 | anshin | peterrooney: I'm not on Debian right now, so I can't check it. Can you tell me whether it's set in your fstab? |
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| 07:02.11 | peterrooney | tune2fs -l /device/ | grep 'Default mount options' |
| 07:02.16 | rryoumaa | anshin: man page for mount |
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| 07:02.58 | anshin | the man page wouldn't be consistent across distributions because of variations in settings, versions, etc |
| 07:03.15 | anshin | wait, I'll use my vps |
| 07:03.17 | anshin | thanks |
| 07:03.18 | rryoumaa | anshin: which is why you'd check it for each one, but perhaps peterrooney's way wil lwork |
| 07:03.43 | peterrooney | it may be set in kernel as well, been a while since I've compiled one... |
| 07:04.00 | anshin | I hadn't considered that |
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| 07:05.19 | rryoumaa | if i have an external usb drive, is it reasonable to try to put zfs on it for the space-saving and integrity features? |
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| 07:06.19 | anshin | I honestly have no idea. this is the first time I've ever considered switching from ext4 |
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| 07:06.30 | anshin | I know almost nothing about filesystems |
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| 07:10.44 | peterrooney | also, tune2fs -l /device/ | grep 'Filesystem features'. I hope this isn't a deep topic that sucks up the rest of my day! |
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| 07:13.49 | anshin | the manual for mount says that the default mode is ordered, so it should need to be changed in fstab |
| 07:14.10 | anshin | default mode for ext3 and ext4 anyway |
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| 07:15.06 | anshin | is it feasible for this to be changed in the kernel? |
| 07:15.13 | anshin | surely it would be documented somewhere |
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| 08:03.56 | Raknymos | TESTING: 0 Irssi::Irc::Server=HASH(0x7fa55e7801d0) #debian :!steam bejker ~bejker@149-032.nitka.net.pl |
| 08:03.56 | dpkg | Steam is a proprietary content delivery and management application for PC software with Linux support. Packaged in <testing> (non-free); amd64 users are required to enable <multiarch> and install the steam:i386 package. For help with upstream issues, ask #steamlug on irc.freenode.net. |
| 08:03.58 | Raknymos | bejker : No |
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| 08:05.37 | babilen | !wb |
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| 08:05.38 | dpkg | thanks, babilen. It's good to be back. |
| 08:05.40 | Raknymos | babilen : No |
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| 08:59.05 | ineb | hello, i have a package from an external apt repository, which failed during installation. anyway the files from the packages were installed. problem is, that i cant 'apt-get remove' the package, because it isnt tracked as installed |
| 08:59.19 | ineb | should i remove it by hand or is there a better way? |
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| 09:11.50 | vyadhaka | how to check if I ever set a root password, /etc/shadow file shows that root has a password (has stuff between the first two colons. I thought I would have set it same as my user password |
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| 09:14.14 | vyadhaka | never needed to use the root password before but disk utility is asking for root password to run a SMART disk test. not accepting my pw, it works for all the admin tasks. I can even get root access using sudo, |
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| 09:18.48 | err404 | vyadhaka, open a terminal, become root by sudo su - or /bin/su, and now you can launch your utility |
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| 09:19.08 | err404 | i hope :p |
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| 09:20.26 | akemarth | vyadhaka: can you get root access with your own password and sudo? |
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| 09:20.47 | vyadhaka | err404: I guess so, but not sure why my password is not working, I updated quite a few things few days ago, should have checked carefully |
| 09:21.01 | vyadhaka | akemarth: yes I have sudo access |
| 09:21.33 | akemarth | vyadhaka: the you should be able to change/set root password with sudo |
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| 09:23.16 | vyadhaka | akemarth: I can run passwd when in the elevated prompt, right? but what I am trying to figure out is why my password is not working for admin tasks, it used to work just fine |
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| 09:24.34 | akemarth | vyadhaka: have anything changed in your sudoers file? |
| 09:25.05 | akemarth | sounds like you had your account set to root rights in that file maybe? |
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| 09:29.26 | vyadhaka | akemarth: not following what you are saying, I just checked the status of the passwords for all accounts on the system, none of the passwords have been changed, I guess I really forgot the root password |
| 09:30.00 | vyadhaka | also I dont recall ever getting asked for the root password for admin tasks |
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| 09:30.13 | vyadhaka | I used to run disk checks all the time |
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| 09:31.07 | akemarth | vyadhaka: ok, I meant that if you performed root tasks without getting asked for sudo or root password, maybe you had your account in the sudoers file |
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| 09:32.04 | vyadhaka | yes that's right |
| 09:32.34 | akemarth | vyadhaka: so has anything changed in that file after your upgrade? |
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| 09:35.09 | vyadhaka | akemarth: doesn't look like it |
| 09:35.39 | vyadhaka | has an entry for root and my account (with ALL=(ALL) ALL) for both |
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| 09:35.56 | SyNko | hello |
| 09:35.56 | akemarth | vyadhaka: that should do it |
| 09:36.31 | akemarth | vyadhaka: but if your sudo works, just reset the root password |
| 09:36.36 | SyNko | i just want know if there is a way to force bind9 to read the /etc/hosts file. Is it there? |
| 09:38.07 | vyadhaka | akemarth: to reset the root pw, wouldn't it need the existing root pw? |
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| 09:38.26 | SyNko | i had added some host in the local lan in the /etc/hosts and bind9 ignore them |
| 09:38.29 | akemarth | vyadhaka: not with sudo |
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| 09:39.11 | vyadhaka | akemarth: also, I just checked to sudo user group, I am not in it, that's not needed when I am in the sudoers file, right? |
| 09:39.23 | akemarth | SyNko: would it not be easier just to add the hosts to you zonfile? |
| 09:39.59 | SyNko | akemarth could you give me an example? |
| 09:40.04 | akemarth | vyadhaka: not sure, just try the command and you'll find out |
| 09:40.38 | akemarth | SyNko: check the bind9 documentation |
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| 09:41.00 | SyNko | akemarth ok tnx |
| 09:41.05 | akemarth | SyNko: have you any hosts in your bind zone files? |
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| 09:41.27 | uehuehue | Will debian switch to systemd in jessie? |
| 09:41.41 | vyadhaka | akemarth: yep it worked, cheers |
| 09:41.43 | SyNko | zones.rfc1918 ?? |
| 09:41.46 | uehuehue | Seems like almost every distro has or is switching |
| 09:41.54 | akemarth | vyadhaka: :-) |
| 09:42.17 | vyadhaka | akemarth: not sure what went wrong, had me worried, went through all the logs suspecting mischief |
| 09:42.53 | akemarth | SyNko: no, you should add a zonefile for you local network |
| 09:43.11 | SyNko | named.conf.default-zones ? |
| 09:43.40 | akemarth | SyNko: just add a zone in named.conf |
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| 09:43.53 | akemarth | SyNko: a master zone |
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| 09:44.29 | SyNko | akemarth: include "/etc/bind/named.conf.loczone"; |
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| 09:45.27 | akemarth | SyNko: ii usually leave the default zones alone and add the zone files I need |
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| 09:47.09 | akemarth | SyNko: just be sure to have "type master;" and "file: myzone.lan; in it |
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| 09:48.52 | SyNko | akemarth: i cannot understand the syntax of myzone.lan |
| 09:48.56 | SyNko | file |
| 09:49.20 | akemarth | file: "pathtomyzon.lan"; |
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| 09:49.46 | SyNko | akemarth ok but inside that file what i put? |
| 09:50.02 | akemarth | SyNko: all the zonefiles records |
| 09:50.21 | akemarth | soa, ns, mx , a and anyones you need |
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| 09:50.56 | SyNko | yes but for example "@ IN A 127.0.0.1" |
| 09:51.08 | SyNko | where is the host name located? |
| 09:51.14 | akemarth | SyNko: there is a really good dns guide on http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ |
| 09:51.41 | akemarth | SyNko: replace the @ with the hostname |
| 09:52.04 | akemarth | like www IN A 127.0.0.1 |
| 09:52.12 | SyNko | www IN A 192.168.0.3 |
| 09:52.20 | akemarth | SyNko: yep |
| 09:52.22 | SyNko | is sufficient this line so |
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| 09:52.31 | SyNko | optimal |
| 09:52.34 | SyNko | tnx a lot |
| 09:52.47 | akemarth | SyNko: no hte file won't work properly without at least a soa record |
| 09:52.59 | akemarth | and some ns records |
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| 09:53.53 | akemarth | SyNko: check out the file format at http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch8/index.html#zone |
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| 09:54.28 | larsrh | I'm having some issues growing a raid. I set speed_limit_min to 1000000, but it is only working with speed ~ 10000 K/sec. Running Debian 7.1 and mdadm 3.2.5. |
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| 09:56.24 | SyNko | ; |
| 09:56.26 | SyNko | ; BIND data file for local loopback interface |
| 09:56.28 | SyNko | ; |
| 09:56.29 | SyNko | $TTL 604800 |
| 09:56.30 | SyNko | @ IN SOA ns1.local. hostmaster.local. ( |
| 09:56.31 | SyNko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.33 | SyNko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.34 | babilen | !paste |
| 09:56.34 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 09:56.34 | SyNko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.36 | SyNko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.37 | babilen | SyNko: stop |
| 09:56.37 | SyNko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.39 | SyNko | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.40 | SyNko | hostname IN A 192.168.1.13 |
| 09:56.43 | SyNko | opps |
| 09:56.43 | SyNko | sorry about |
| 09:56.50 | SyNko | ok |
| 09:57.20 | babilen | SyNko: I mean seriously: pasting slowly doesn't make it right |
| 09:57.21 | SyNko | akemarth: is it correct ^^ |
| 09:57.34 | mycae | Hi - I'm currently getting a segfault in aptitude and apt, whilst it is parsing the package cache. I have the bt from gdb, but beyond this I am not sure what is needed for reproducing the error, in order to submit a bug report. Any tips? |
| 09:57.42 | SyNko | babilen : i dont paste anymore |
| 09:58.08 | akemarth | SyNko: trial and error, and a lot of googling :-) |
| 09:58.51 | akemarth | SyNko: start with a simple zonefile and watch for errors when you use rndc reload |
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| 10:08.15 | jimcooncat | I just installed the package libdecodeqr-examples, what command do I use to find out what files it installed? |
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| 10:09.24 | dutchfish | jimcooncat, dpkg -L foo |
| 10:09.39 | jimcooncat | thanks dutchfish |
| 10:09.47 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 10:36.12 | Samul | hi all. I want to install PCSX2 on debian 7 wheezy 64 bit but I didn't find any help by searching google. can someone help me? |
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| 10:39.09 | mumpitzel | Samul: and your specific problem is which? what error message? |
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| 10:39.30 | Samul | I've run the installation script, but it said |
| 10:40.19 | Samul | sorry wait a moment |
| 10:40.37 | mumpitzel | pastebin the command you type and its full output |
| 10:40.38 | Samul | it said: ./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_baseu-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 10:40.38 | Samul | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:41.14 | Samul | that's strange 'cause that library has been installed |
| 10:41.18 | mumpitzel | you need to install wxwidgets |
| 10:41.28 | Samul | apt-get install wxwidgets? |
| 10:41.45 | mumpitzel | no |
| 10:41.49 | Samul | which command? |
| 10:42.11 | mumpitzel | apt-cache search libwx for example |
| 10:42.16 | Samul | OK |
| 10:42.33 | Samul | it finds lots of results |
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| 10:44.13 | Samul | which should I install? |
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| 10:44.52 | mumpitzel | !tell Samul about search |
| 10:45.05 | mumpitzel | so use apt-file or packages.debian.org to see which package has the file you need |
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| 10:45.26 | Samul | omg, I didn't know that command |
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| 10:47.13 | Samul | it says that «apt-file» doesn't exist |
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| 10:47.31 | mumpitzel | !installit |
| 10:47.32 | dpkg | Your box does not come with every application, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 10:47.39 | mjt | is there a way to stream audio INTO a headless linux box over bluetooth? The thing is that most stuff which google finds about this topic refers to pulseaudio which doesn't quite work... |
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| 10:48.44 | Samul | how can I remove a file from repository? |
| 10:48.48 | dutchfish | mjt, why not use mindlna? |
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| 10:49.00 | dutchfish | s/mindlna/minidlna |
| 10:49.00 | mjt | dutchfish: does it work over bt? |
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| 10:49.20 | mumpitzel | you can run IP over bluetooth afaik, so it does |
| 10:49.24 | mumpitzel | BT is slow however |
| 10:49.26 | dutchfish | mjt, it works over wifi, networks and can be directed (but not out of the box) |
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| 10:50.12 | mjt | um. my device (it's a phone, but not quite "smart" phone) does not support streaming over network |
| 10:50.50 | mjt | but it has a2dp bt profile implemented |
| 10:50.51 | dutchfish | mjt, you could delve into the source or just try it http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/minidlna.html |
| 10:50.57 | mumpitzel | so you need to check what your phone can do. debian is a lot more flexible: anything your phone can do, you can debian probably make to accept |
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| 10:51.29 | dutchfish | mjt, i use it for all video, audio, pictures |
| 10:51.35 | mjt | dutchfish: fwiw, i already have it installed for other purposes.. ;) |
| 10:51.46 | dutchfish | mjt, ah ok |
| 10:52.16 | mjt | but i don't remember which issues i had, i think i weren't managed to get it to work (or, rather, to have my other device to see it) |
| 10:52.26 | dutchfish | mjt, what kind of phone is it if i may ask? |
| 10:52.27 | Samul | mumpitzel: how could apt-file help me with my problem? |
| 10:52.29 | mjt | that's another "fun" question, unrelated to bluetooth :) |
| 10:52.40 | Samul | I've installed it but I don't understand how to use it to solve my problem |
| 10:52.44 | mumpitzel | Samul: apt-file searches for packages which contain file X |
| 10:53.03 | Samul | and after I've found package name...? |
| 10:53.04 | mjt | dutchfish: it's an older nokia cell phone |
| 10:53.15 | mumpitzel | then you install it? |
| 10:53.30 | Samul | pcsx2 isn't in repositories |
| 10:53.40 | Samul | then I have to install it by running the script |
| 10:53.48 | dutchfish | mjt, i was thinking about simply installing filebrowser and use smb, its a chatty proto i know, but it works on symbian |
| 10:54.03 | dutchfish | mjt, and over blue tooth |
| 10:54.25 | dutchfish | mjt, expirience might be crappy tho |
| 10:54.38 | mjt | i doubt i can install a file browser into this phoen |
| 10:54.39 | mjt | phone |
| 10:55.01 | mjt | and even if i can, where will i send the file to? |
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| 10:55.19 | dutchfish | mjt, there is an mini office version on symbian that has a filevbrowser | sorry for all the offtopic |
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| 10:55.47 | mjt | installing samba to the linux box and sending .wav files to /dev/mixer? :) |
| 10:55.51 | dutchfish | mjt, you make a fileshare in smb on the headless box |
| 10:55.59 | mjt | yeah |
| 10:56.12 | dutchfish | mjt, yes, sort off |
| 10:56.22 | dutchfish | it works |
| 10:56.30 | dutchfish | been there and done that |
| 10:56.42 | mjt | that's sort of.. backwards, I'd say :) |
| 10:56.52 | dutchfish | but as i said its not quiet smooth working |
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| 10:57.00 | dutchfish | mjt, i agree |
| 10:57.19 | mjt | the idea was to be able to easily control the box from a phone, at least the audio function of it |
| 10:57.35 | mjt | so i can play stuff on phone and hear it from the speakers |
| 10:57.44 | mjt | can press pause, volume up/down etc |
| 10:58.00 | dutchfish | yes, i gotcha, no idee how to do that on that phone |
| 10:58.01 | mjt | this all works in a trivial way when i do it to windows box |
| 10:58.31 | mjt | just pair the phone with the windows box and choose bluetooth device on the phone for output |
| 10:58.54 | mjt | with linux I've no idea how even let the phone to SEE the linux box |
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| 11:00.10 | dutchfish | mjt, have you tried https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser ? |
| 11:00.25 | mjt | nope ;) Reading it... |
| 11:01.23 | mjt | bah. "To pair devices, you need a passkey-agent." gnome/kde/gtk2, restart x-window... ;( |
| 11:02.08 | mjt | ah. bluetooth-agent should work. |
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| 11:02.15 | dutchfish | mjt, last one http://wiki.maemo.org/Bluetooth_DUN (for still using minidlna over it) |
| 11:02.35 | dutchfish | mjt, after that i am out of good news ;) |
| 11:03.23 | dutchfish | mjt, maybe others have done it with another solution |
| 11:04.05 | mjt | that's of great help alrady, dutchfish. If not in my bad google-fu :) |
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| 11:04.12 | Samul | tsk |
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| 11:04.18 | dutchfish | mjt, yw |
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| 11:05.20 | mjt | yay. my linux can see my phone! :) (But not the other way 'round) |
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| 11:11.18 | wdwddw | hello, |
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| 11:11.33 | wdwddw | when I've tried to install debian it's not detecting my ethernet card |
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| 11:14.28 | dutchfish | wdwddw, do you know what ethernet card is in the box, or you could find out by booting a live image and invoking dmesg or lspci |
| 11:14.54 | wdwddw | Intel® I217V, 1 x Gigabit LAN Controller(s) |
| 11:15.53 | dutchfish | !I217V |
| 11:15.54 | dpkg | I217 is a LAN on Motherboard (LOM) device available on systems with Intel's "Lynx Point" Platform Controller Hub (PCH) chipset. I217-LM (PCI ID 8086:153a) and I217-V (PCI ID 8086:153b) are supported by the <e1000e> driver since Linux 3.5. For device support on Debian 7 "Wheezy" systems, ask me about <bdo kernel>. |
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| 11:16.46 | wdwddw | so what? |
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| 11:17.30 | dutchfish | wdwddw, you need a newer kernel for that as the factoid states ask it about bdo kernel |
| 11:17.48 | wdwddw | !bdo kernel |
| 11:17.49 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
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| 11:19.00 | wdwddw | my hardware is too new |
| 11:19.05 | dutchfish | yup |
| 11:19.33 | dutchfish | or at least for now |
| 11:19.58 | wdwddw | yea at least for now ofc |
| 11:20.04 | RawOne | all |
| 11:20.36 | dutchfish | wdwddw, easiest workaorund, install a temparary lan card that is suported and follow the bots suggestions to install the newer kernel |
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| 11:21.00 | wdwddw | I don't want to put another lan card on my mobo |
| 11:21.11 | wdwddw | http://prikachi.com/images/370/6559370q.jpg |
| 11:21.12 | wdwddw | :) |
| 11:21.24 | dutchfish | wdwddw, then download the nwer debian kernel package and use a usb stick |
| 11:22.27 | dutchfish | wdwddw, ones you are on the newer kernel you can configure /etc/network/interfaces manually |
| 11:22.48 | wdwddw | how much time should I wait for a new version of debian with 3.5 kernel? |
| 11:23.15 | dutchfish | wdwddw, roughly 2 years before stable gets to the next |
| 11:23.32 | dutchfish | wdwddw, but you dont need to, you can do it right now |
| 11:23.50 | wdwddw | I am going to use windows in most of the time anyway |
| 11:24.14 | wdwddw | I've just wanted to have linux on another partition just for fun |
| 11:24.20 | dutchfish | wdwddw, in that case why not install a virtual machine in windows with debian? |
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| 11:24.51 | wdwddw | Idk I got enough space on my HDD |
| 11:24.57 | dutchfish | well then |
| 11:24.58 | wdwddw | I'll see |
| 11:25.07 | wdwddw | from where can I download debian kernel |
| 11:25.09 | dutchfish | wdwddw, in any case good luck |
| 11:25.14 | SyNko | akemarth: thanks for your link, i ve done the configuration, but this system is very uncounfortable |
| 11:25.20 | wdwddw | thank you very much for the fast support |
| 11:25.28 | dutchfish | wdwddw, yw |
| 11:25.34 | wdwddw | you've helped me immediately |
| 11:25.40 | wdwddw | but from where can I check out the debian kernels |
| 11:25.46 | wdwddw | not from kernel.org right |
| 11:25.56 | SyNko | akemarth: i cannot work one hour just to set up a f***g host name |
| 11:25.59 | wdwddw | where exactly in debian.org |
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| 11:26.37 | dutchfish | wdwddw, https://wiki.debian.org/KernelFAQ |
| 11:26.42 | akemarth | SyNko: dns/bind can be a mouthful |
| 11:26.44 | SyNko | akemarth: if they put a syntax like /etc/hosts will be better |
| 11:26.49 | wdwddw | btw my pc specs http://pastebin.com/6diQcjzd |
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| 11:27.08 | SyNko | akemarth: okay |
| 11:27.36 | SyNko | bye |
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| 11:28.46 | wdwddw | dutchfish: did you see my pc specs |
| 11:29.17 | dutchfish | wdwddw, last link to bookmark http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=debian-kernel@lists.debian.org |
| 11:29.27 | dutchfish | wdwddw, nope? |
| 11:29.59 | wdwddw | dutchfish: my pc specs http://pastebin.com/6diQcjzd |
| 11:30.18 | dutchfish | wdwddw, ah ok, i rather more intrested in the dmesg output |
| 11:30.40 | dutchfish | wdwddw, anyway, good luck |
| 11:30.47 | wdwddw | dutchfish: so what do you think am I going to have problems with other drivers? |
| 11:31.41 | dutchfish | wdwddw, not if you know how to setup a linux box, at least not so much in driver troubles |
| 11:31.57 | dutchfish | wdwddw, but you need newer kernel |
| 11:32.18 | wdwddw | dutchfish: is 3.5 stable kernel? |
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| 11:33.06 | dutchfish | wdwddw, not in debian stable but stable as a kernel is stated here https://www.kernel.org/ |
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| 11:33.20 | dutchfish | wdwddw, in short yes |
| 11:33.58 | wdwddw | dutchfish: 1 mom is 3.11.3 newer than 3.5? |
| 11:34.13 | dutchfish | wdwddw, no and yes |
| 11:34.19 | musca | 3.10 is in wheezy backports, it's this years longlife kernel |
| 11:34.46 | dutchfish | wdwddw, no in respect to the initial release date, yes in respect to the patches it got (mind the minor numbers) |
| 11:35.03 | wdwddw | am I going to have problems with etherned with 3.11.3? |
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| 11:35.15 | dutchfish | wdwddw, probably not |
| 11:35.46 | dutchfish | wdwddw, if you are clever you pick a long life supported kernel |
| 11:35.57 | dutchfish | wdwddw, delve in at www.kernel.org |
| 11:36.41 | dutchfish | wdwddw, its called longterm |
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| 11:37.34 | dutchfish | wdwddw, it just need to be the same or newer as stated in the factoid for your card |
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| 11:39.25 | wdwddw | dutchfish: okay thank you |
| 11:39.30 | dutchfish | yw |
| 11:40.41 | dutchfish | wdwddw, and mind musca's last remark its a good kernel to start with |
| 11:40.58 | dutchfish | wdwddw, for your issue |
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| 11:42.14 | dutchfish | wdwddw, that way you dont need to compile one yourself |
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| 11:43.26 | wdwddw | dutchfish: but for desktop machine linux is not the best and I've gave my old pc to my sister |
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| 11:44.03 | dutchfish | wdwddw, i bet she dont mind to exchange it with the new one ;) |
| 11:45.01 | Mykathendu | -3- |
| 11:45.08 | wdwddw | dutchfish: :D:D:D for sure, but I mean that maybe I'll wait for a new version of debian or something like this and I'll install debian on another partition in the future, but for now maybe I'll keep just 1 OS anyway I am too busy with studying atm |
| 11:45.22 | dutchfish | wdwddw, well, thats up to you |
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| 11:46.10 | dutchfish | wdwddw, your studie is more important |
| 11:46.47 | wdwddw | dutchfish: I've just wanted to install debian for 2 minutes and to run it sometimes |
| 11:47.18 | dutchfish | wdwddw, pick it up again when you do have the time to spent for it |
| 11:47.23 | Mykathendu | >:v |
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| 11:47.58 | wdwddw | dutchfish: btw I don't need to install debian on ssd right? |
| 11:47.59 | dutchfish | wdwddw, linux will be more important then any other OS in the future anyway |
| 11:48.25 | dutchfish | wdwddw, right, or sue a life image |
| 11:48.29 | dutchfish | s/sue/use |
| 11:48.48 | dutchfish | wdwddw, with a life image you dont need to install anything |
| 11:49.07 | wdwddw | dutchfish: true |
| 11:49.29 | dutchfish | wdwddw, http://live.debian.net/manual/2.x/html/live-manual.en.html |
| 11:49.57 | dutchfish | good luck |
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| 11:50.46 | wdwddw | dutchfish: you mean not live cd, but something like debian beta or? |
| 11:51.18 | dutchfish | wdwddw, i might be that there are already live images for newer kernels out there, you could use out of the box, i do not know |
| 11:51.32 | dutchfish | wdwddw, for that just google |
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| 11:51.44 | thorjelly | Guys I have probably a very simple question. I wanted something that started when debian boots and stopped when debian shut down. So I made a script and put it in /etc/init.d and ran updaterc.d. It works great! But I realized that it probably actually doesn't have to run with any privilages. It's just a server. So I'd actually like it to run with the permissions of my normal user. I guess -- maybe this is best if it was a |
| 11:51.46 | thorjelly | script run by the user when the user logs in and logs off? But I am not really sure how to do this. It's probably simple. Anyone know? |
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| 11:52.37 | wdwddw | dutchfish: okay have a nice day thanks again see you :) |
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| 11:56.16 | dutchfish | thorjelly, did you have a read in /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/ ? |
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| 11:58.52 | thorjelly | dutchfish: No, I wasn't sure where to look |
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| 12:01.53 | dutchfish | thorjelly, and here is an example as it is done for glassfish https://blogs.oracle.com/foo/entry/run_glassfish_v3_as_a |
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| 12:05.28 | dutchfish | thorjelly, your mileage may differ, but it will probably simular |
| 12:06.14 | thorjelly | dutchfish: So I just use su in the script to switch to the user? seems simple |
| 12:06.27 | dutchfish | thorjelly, good luck |
| 12:06.33 | thorjelly | dutchfish: Thanks. |
| 12:06.38 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 12:08.51 | grift | ive an issue with debian packaging. where i add a patch that creates some files is some how is not applied, anyone willing to assist? |
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| 12:09.54 | dutchfish | grift, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/dother.en.html#patches |
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| 12:10.36 | grift | yes i know that, but this is , i suspect, no ordinary case |
| 12:11.26 | grift | but yes i do quilt import $PATCH, quilt push $PATCH and that normally works fine |
| 12:11.34 | dutchfish | grift, ok, ill try, explain some more |
| 12:11.43 | grift | except when the patch create a new file |
| 12:12.04 | abrotman | dpkg: tell grift about mentors |
| 12:12.18 | grift | the file seems to be not created, and when i run dpkg-buildpackage it ends up in the root |
| 12:13.07 | grift | my mentor is currenlty awol |
| 12:13.16 | dutchfish | grift, 1st try indeed mentors, 2nd i work on a non-root user in my ~/git/packagefoo dir having setup the build envirenment properly acoording to the DNMG |
| 12:13.28 | grift | thats why i come here |
| 12:14.00 | dutchfish | grift, the same goes for quilt 3 |
| 12:14.14 | dutchfish | abrotman, sorry |
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| 12:18.01 | abrotman | grift: there's a whole channel |
| 12:18.35 | grift | thanks i will join it see if it gets me anywhere |
| 12:18.59 | grift | k forget that |
| 12:19.16 | dutchfish | grift, #debian-mentors on OFTC |
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| 12:20.44 | dutchfish | grift, hi |
| 12:21.05 | grift | yea i am trying oftc now |
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| 12:23.09 | dr0p | hello, i've installed wheezy with xfce, and since yesterday i've got 2 kernel panics. Where can I see any logs about it ? |
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| 12:28.43 | mumpitzel | dr0p: kernel logs to /var/log/kern.log but you won't see the panics/backtrace there is my guess |
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| 12:30.31 | martin-_- | <- debian sid |
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| 12:30.54 | mumpitzel | !tell martin-_- about adobe flash |
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| 12:35.45 | JCaesar | How does it make sense that ia32-libs is only available for amd64 but depends on ia32-libs-i386, which is only available for i386? |
| 12:36.00 | dr0p | mumpitzel: so are panics logged anywhere? or is any way to do that ? |
| 12:36.16 | mumpitzel | to log, use a serial console |
| 12:36.27 | mumpitzel | !tell JCaesar about multiarch |
| 12:36.44 | mumpitzel | JCaesar: ia21-libs is a virtual package now. doesn't really exist anymore |
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| 12:38.36 | JCaesar | Interesting change. |
| 12:38.38 | JCaesar | ty. |
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| 12:39.52 | metaphysician | How can I make the installer install from a custom mirror that doesn't have the Release.gpg file? |
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| 12:42.25 | metaphysician | in syslog: "net-retriever: error: dists/wheezy/Release is unsigned" |
| 12:43.18 | metaphysician | the mirror is loop-mounted DVD-1 ISO image being served over HTTP. |
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| 12:49.21 | dannymichel | hi guys, im not sure how or why, but debian installed an entry in UEFI on my bios. any way to remove it? |
| 12:50.45 | Brigo | metaphysician: dis you try with --force? |
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| 12:51.23 | Brigo | dannymichel: debian installer has writed your bios? |
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| 12:52.39 | dannymichel | Brigo: yes, UEFI http://d.pr/i/A3TT http://d.pr/i/Ou7Q |
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| 12:53.38 | dutchfish | metaphysician, maybe this helps out a bit how to setup your own PPA http://davehall.com.au/blog/dave/2010/02/06/howto-setup-private-package-repository-reprepro-nginx |
| 12:53.44 | Dark_light | acpiphp: pci_hp_register failed with error -16, I get this error at boot on a thinkpad t400 running wheezy with both 3.2 and 3.10 from backports, I'm not quite sure what to make of it |
| 12:54.09 | woarno | I am running Jessie. Since yesterday, no sound from Youtube. Any of you have this problem? |
| 12:54.31 | abrotman | but sound elsewhere? |
| 12:55.00 | Brigo | dannymichel: impressive :-) |
| 12:55.14 | woarno | no western sites such as chinese sites OK. |
| 12:55.36 | woarno | local news site also OK. |
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| 12:56.17 | dannymichel | any idea how to get rid of it? |
| 12:56.47 | woarno | abrotman: i mean western sites such as reuter also not OK but Chinese sites and local news site OK. |
| 12:57.18 | woarno | abrotman: OK in Chinese Youku. |
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| 13:15.23 | Kariel_ | hello |
| 13:16.08 | Kariel_ | will netinstall work fine from a DVD on such PC: E4700/GA-EP35-DS3/9600GT? |
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| 13:16.57 | dvs | Kariel_: Well, I have that motherboard and it works for me. |
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| 13:17.43 | Kariel_ | okay, thanks dvs I just had problems with it on my laptop and I have the last DVD :D |
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| 13:18.22 | zzZhou | n achieve full-screen maximized, and now I can not. |
| 13:18.38 | zzZhou | MATA desktop windows using the mouse upwards marginalization can achieve full-screen maximized, and now I can not |
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| 13:18.54 | abrotman | zzZhou: MATE is not part of Debian, ask the channel for your distro |
| 13:18.56 | zzZhou | The xfce |
| 13:19.08 | abrotman | or maybe I am not comprehending? |
| 13:19.20 | zzZhou | I say like .. |
| 13:19.40 | Kariel_ | do you know anything about when GNOME for Jessie will be updated? |
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| 13:20.34 | abrotman | Kariel_: after it is updated for Sid |
| 13:21.48 | geak | Hi |
| 13:22.09 | Kariel_ | abrotman Sid still got the old 3.4, so when even there could we except any updates? |
| 13:22.13 | zzZhou | I need you to teach me to maximize the XFCE window drag now, like KDE and unity. |
| 13:22.31 | geak | So nano is installed on a minimal system (which makes sense btw), what package is used? Is there a metapackage called "minimal system"? There is a package nano, but is there also a package for nano, wget and all those other little but very useful tools? |
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| 13:24.24 | babilen | Kariel_: 3.8 is almost entirely in jessie/sid already and gnome-shell packages (if that is what you are actually referring to) are in experimental. They need to be OK'd by the release team which will probably happen soonish. Just grab them from exp if you *need* them now. |
| 13:24.31 | babilen | dpkg: tell Kariel_ about gnome status |
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| 13:25.23 | geak | anyone? |
| 13:25.42 | babilen | dpkg: tell geak about standard |
| 13:25.52 | babilen | geak: That might be what you are thinking of :-/ *shrug* |
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| 13:26.02 | babilen | (or essential) |
| 13:26.32 | justaguy | In the Debian install , is their any difference between "Install" and "Graphical install" |
| 13:26.34 | zzZhou | I need you to teach me to maximize the XFCE window drag now, like KDE and unity. |
| 13:26.37 | zzZhou | please |
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| 13:26.47 | Kariel_ | okay babilen, thanks, I'm waiting cause 3.4 is a little bit oldish |
| 13:27.03 | abrotman | !gnome status |
| 13:27.04 | dpkg | Status of the GNOME 3.8 <transition> can be found at http://www.0d.be/debian/debian-gnome-3.8-status.html |
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| 13:27.12 | abrotman | oh, already told |
| 13:27.24 | babilen | Kariel_: You don't have to wait and you'll have most of 3.8 already anyway. |
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| 13:29.42 | zzZhou | I need you to teach me to maximize the XFCE window drag now, like KDE and unity. |
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| 13:31.06 | zzZhou | How will XFCE fully maximized, not double click the title bar |
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| 13:36.30 | zzZhou | Using the mouse, how Xfce will be fully maximized, in addition to double-click on the outside |
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| 13:37.54 | geak | babilen: dpkg is very quiet to me :( |
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| 13:38.15 | geak | babilen: so there is a standard or essential metapackage containing the good stuff like nano, wget and so on? |
| 13:38.20 | geak | babilen: even ip / ping is mising |
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| 13:38.37 | geak | I like small systems, but this is too small, it draws it inoperable. |
| 13:39.09 | abrotman | geak: aptitude install '~pstandard' |
| 13:39.23 | woshty | Is .bash_profile not used in Debian wheezy? |
| 13:40.03 | zzZhou | 如何使用鼠标，Xfce将完全最大化，除了双击外 |
| 13:40.14 | abrotman | wtf |
| 13:40.25 | geak | abrotman: so this is not a metapackage but again something on top of it? Some kind of package collection? |
| 13:40.47 | abrotman | geak: aptitude search '~pstandard' |
| 13:40.54 | geak | abrotman: yes |
| 13:40.57 | zzZhou | 如何使用鼠标，Xfce将完全最大化，除了双击外 |
| 13:40.58 | abrotman | dpkg: tell geak about aptitude search |
| 13:41.05 | geak | abrotman: is it a meta-package now? |
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| 13:41.49 | abrotman | geak: no |
| 13:42.02 | zzZhou | Using the mouse, how Xfce will be fully maximized, in addition to double-click on the outside |
| 13:42.25 | geak | abrotman: and why is it not a metapackage? why did they have to introduce something new which does essentially the same as a metapackage? |
| 13:43.26 | zzZhou | Using the mouse, how Xfce will be fully maximized, in addition to double-click on the outside |
| 13:43.28 | abrotman | geak: because it's not something oyu'd use a metapackage for? |
| 13:43.28 | zzZhou | Using the mouse, how Xfce will be fully maximized, in addition to double-click on the outside |
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| 13:43.35 | zzZhou | Using the mouse, how Xfce will be fully maximized, in addition to double-click on the outsideVUsing the mouse, how Xfce will be fully maximized, in addition to double-click on the outside |
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| 13:43.41 | abrotman | we're done with that |
| 13:43.57 | abrotman | geak: do you understand what the ~p is ? |
| 13:44.01 | geak | abrotman: ok, please explain me the difference |
| 13:44.04 | geak | abrotman: not really |
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| 13:44.26 | abrotman | geak: packages have a priority in the description, you're saying you want to install all packages with a priority of "standard" |
| 13:44.49 | geak | abrotman: ah, so they defined important packages by setting a higher priority |
| 13:45.07 | abrotman | geak: there's a list of priorities if you really care to know about them |
| 13:45.08 | geak | abrotman: but they also could have used a metapackage |
| 13:45.18 | abrotman | geak: they could have, but it's really not needed |
| 13:45.25 | geak | abrotman: ok |
| 13:45.29 | geak | abrotman: now I understand it |
| 13:45.39 | abrotman | geak: most systems have these tools after install time, not sure how you managed that |
| 13:45.47 | geak | abrotman: Can I run apt of the host system on a target root fs (of a lxc container)? |
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| 13:46.01 | geak | abrotman: by using multistrap (which is so damn fast combined with a proxy) |
| 13:46.04 | abrotman | not sure .. seems like something you'd try ? |
| 13:46.16 | geak | abrotman: multistrap debian installation = 4 minutes for a debian system |
| 13:46.31 | abrotman | okay, i've used debootstrap |
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| 13:46.52 | geak | abrotman: multistrap seems to have a steeper learning curve, but it is much faster and elegant |
| 13:47.09 | geak | abrotman: I want to use the tools of host system on the rootfs used by a lxcontainer |
| 13:47.20 | geak | abrotman: both share same architecture and distribution |
| 13:47.34 | geak | abrotman: so I don't have to install those tools in each container |
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| 13:48.14 | abrotman | so try it, i can't answer that question |
| 13:48.35 | echo083 | with acer laptop does debian has a good compatibility with it ? |
| 13:48.48 | abrotman | linux-laptop.net |
| 13:49.31 | geak | abrotman: the question is if apt and other tools are able to use another rootfs than that of the host. |
| 13:50.22 | abrotman | not that i'm aware |
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| 13:51.04 | maxyz | geak: dpkg can use another rootfs, apt and other higher level tools should be used inside a chroor |
| 13:51.17 | maxyz | s/r$/t/ |
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| 13:52.20 | geak | maxyz: when I execute chroot, the tools from the host aren't available anymore |
| 13:52.43 | maxyz | geak: That's right |
| 13:54.37 | maxyz | geak: You may want to use a debootstrap image as a starting point. |
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| 13:56.09 | geak | maxyz: so using the tools from host on another rootfs isn't really intended and would be too cumbersome, right? So I should have a true base system in the lxcontainer. |
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| 13:57.41 | maxyz | geak: How did you created the "minimal system" you are testing ? |
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| 13:58.32 | echo083 | abrotman, thx ! |
| 13:58.56 | geak | maxyz: I used debootstrap and then switched to multistrap which is much faster |
| 13:59.19 | geak | maxyz: I want to avoid the installation of apt and other tools in the container because they are already available on the host system |
| 13:59.26 | geak | maxyz: but it is not intended, right? |
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| 14:01.53 | maxyz | Mmh, that's an emdebian tool, so I guess you have a smaller system than the one created by a default debootstrap. |
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| 14:05.07 | maxyz | The apt tools are small enough, not sure you are going to earn anything removing them, specially if you want to use them. |
| 14:05.15 | vlt | Hello. What do I need to watch videos on youtube using Debian stable? |
| 14:06.00 | Dark_light | vlt: flashplugin-nonfree, check that you have both the contrib and non-free repositories enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:06.00 | vlt | I activated HTML5 on youtube.com/html5 but get a "missing flash" error on every video I tried so far. |
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| 14:06.14 | vlt | Dark_light: I don't want to use flash |
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| 14:06.20 | abrotman | vlt: nto all videos are available with html5 |
| 14:06.29 | maxyz | It might be worth to have an apt-cacher and a cleaner for the packages files. |
| 14:06.30 | vlt | abrotman: Aah, I see |
| 14:06.48 | Dark_light | vlt: gnash did a decent job last time I tried it on youtube |
| 14:07.04 | abrotman | vlt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE3fmFTtP9g does that one work (works for me in html5) |
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| 14:07.10 | vlt | Does anyone know a currently working video downloader? |
| 14:07.10 | maxyz | But, it depends on your goal and constrains. |
| 14:07.30 | abrotman | maxyz: you didn't actually answer his question :) |
| 14:07.45 | vlt | abrotman: Yes, that worked. |
| 14:07.54 | Dark_light | vlt: have you tried gnash? |
| 14:07.58 | abrotman | vlt: there you go .. |
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| 14:08.19 | abrotman | vlt: but yes, gnash and lightspark exist for this sort of thing also |
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| 14:09.28 | maxyz | abrotman: Well, I started saying that apt needs to be running in the same rootfs, but somehow multistrap uses the host apt, as I'm haven't used multistrap I don't know if after creating the image it provides a way to add packages, administer it. |
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| 14:09.57 | abrotman | maxyz: he originally asked if he could use the host apt tools to install packages on the lxc systems |
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| 14:14.00 | maxyz | geak, abrotman: apt doesn't support it, multistrap seems to do it, so, either check if multistrap provides a tool to administer the image or check the trick that multistrap does to use the host apt in the rootfs. |
| 14:16.03 | abrotman | maxyz: so my original answer was correct? :) |
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| 14:19.29 | anigma | shouldn't add-apt-repository be located in the software-properties-common package? |
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| 14:23.24 | abrotman | dpkg: tell anigma about apt-file |
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| 14:24.57 | katla | how do i turn of avahi? |
| 14:25.00 | katla | off* |
| 14:25.51 | geak | katla: avahi will eat you :) |
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| 14:27.24 | abrotman | katla: why? |
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| 14:28.06 | katla | abrotman, I dont knowwhat it is or why i'd want it so i should turn it off |
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| 14:28.37 | abrotman | perhaps learn what it does first |
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| 14:29.12 | katla | no i just want to turn it off |
| 14:29.30 | abrotman | so remove the package |
| 14:29.40 | abrotman | learning is bad! |
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| 14:48.12 | anddam | katla: Bonjour |
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| 14:49.04 | katla | anddam, hi |
| 14:49.49 | f8l | vlt: I use cclive to download videos. |
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| 14:50.25 | anddam | katla: zeroconf |
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| 15:06.42 | tesla_dv | Anyone have experience debugging a buggy DSDT? I have 5 errors and am attempting to patch them but am unsure how to proceed/find the error.. |
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| 15:07.54 | anxi0us0 | Good more. Debian |
| 15:08.01 | anxi0us0 | morning*, hahaha |
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| 15:23.38 | talin | hello. is any update scheduled for the debian.org website? it has lots of great documentation, but it's kind of hard to find your way around |
| 15:23.59 | abrotman | it just had one |
| 15:24.08 | abrotman | well, "just" |
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| 15:25.54 | ext | hi, is it possible to use a different /etc/network/interfaces depending on which runlevel was booted? (I'm not entirely familiar with the debian boot process) |
| 15:26.06 | talin | abrotman: i see. well, i guess it's more about how it looks. it has that header image that doesn't quite cover the whole screen etc. looks kind of weird. no worries |
| 15:26.12 | Dark_light | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:27.59 | abrotman | talin: it's a website for informatoin, not glamor :) |
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| 15:34.59 | tesla_dv | Dark_light, its fixed in 3.12 |
| 15:35.07 | tesla_dv | I have the same issue, it's benighn |
| 15:35.51 | anxi0us0 | Debian, Im primarily a windows fanboy, BT5 has re-inspired my love for linux. Whats a fun little project I could do on Debian? |
| 15:36.15 | abrotman | fix bugs |
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| 15:38.47 | quinso | Is there a free program to watch youtube on debian? |
| 15:39.53 | abrotman | gnash or lightspark, or use html5 |
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| 15:40.09 | zykotick9 | quinso: are you looking for a stand alone program? gnash/html5 can play "much" of YouTube in the browser. |
| 15:40.15 | tesla_dv | compile your kernel and fix my dsdt file, that would be fun. |
| 15:40.49 | quinso | zykotick9: html5 is available for only a small part of videos |
| 15:41.03 | quinso | And I tried gnash and it's awful |
| 15:41.06 | zykotick9 | quinso: i agree, thus the gnash inclusion in my answer. |
| 15:41.20 | quinso | Videos in it were lagging and working very bad. |
| 15:41.33 | abrotman | quinso: so use Adobe Flash |
| 15:41.33 | tesla_dv | use flashplugin-nonfree |
| 15:41.40 | zykotick9 | quinso: it's flash, what do you expect. |
| 15:41.45 | quinso | I meant free as in freedom |
| 15:41.46 | abrotman | or try lightspark |
| 15:41.53 | abrotman | quinso: sorry, you can petition adobe |
| 15:42.22 | quinso | Does lightspark work as a browser plugin? |
| 15:42.36 | zykotick9 | quinso: personally i use the out-of-repo flashdownload script/program, then use mplayer to view. |
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| 15:42.44 | tesla_dv | quinso: use flashplugin-nonfree |
| 15:42.47 | abrotman | quinso: try it and see |
| 15:42.55 | abrotman | tesla_dv: he doesn't want to, he's said that a few times now |
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| 15:43.01 | quinso | Ok, I'll try lightspark |
| 15:43.57 | anxi0us0 | Dont know too much about Linux |
| 15:44.00 | tesla_dv | lol, free as in freedom.. nice--missed that. |
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| 15:44.07 | anxi0us0 | Need something more beginner |
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| 15:44.53 | quinso | anxi0us0: freebsd? |
| 15:44.59 | abrotman | wtf |
| 15:45.09 | abrotman | anxi0us0: http://www.debian.org/intro/help |
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| 15:45.51 | quinso | >shockwave flash has crashed |
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| 15:45.56 | quinso | That's my experience with lightspark so far |
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| 15:47.54 | quinso | zykotick9: what is the name of that flashdownload script you use? |
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| 15:49.05 | zykotick9 | quinso: http://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/ it used to be in debian, but it's requirements for updates doesn't mesh well with a debian package |
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| 15:55.46 | scooty_puff | how do i make a bootable debian image from a debian cd/dvd image? |
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| 15:56.09 | zykotick9 | scooty_puff: for USB? use cat/cp/dd to root of usb drive. |
| 15:56.55 | scooty_puff | no i mean to install debian onto a sd card that i can then boot from a different device |
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| 15:57.46 | zykotick9 | scooty_puff: then install onto said SD card, and be sure you install grub to it. |
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| 15:58.16 | zykotick9 | scooty_puff: just don't expect very good performance from it. |
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| 15:58.37 | scooty_puff | an sd? obviously |
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| 16:01.29 | talin | abrotman: good point :-) |
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| 16:22.47 | t0ke | I have a Raspberry Pi running Openelec and sharing its contents as a Samba share of my network. It automatically showed up when I used Ubuntu, but I can't find a way to access it from Debian. Any ideas? |
| 16:24.06 | macintoshtty | using mount |
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| 16:25.08 | calisto | Hi any can help me to use GeForce GT 635M, with the native drivers found in the debian repo packages? |
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| 16:26.59 | quinso | calisto: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 16:27.39 | macintoshtty | calisto, it's better download deb-packet from nvidia site |
| 16:28.05 | quinso | macintoshtty: Where do you find deb packets there? I only saw .run installers. |
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| 16:29.19 | calisto | quinso: you know or use bumblee? |
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| 16:29.40 | linux-fox | it is a proprietory drivers , so you can not see it in deian repo |
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| 16:30.24 | zykotick9 | quinso: teh advice to use nvidia.com's driver is poor. see "/msg dpkg nvidia dkms" for the debian method. |
| 16:30.28 | quinso | calisto: if you have a laptop with optimus then read this: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
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| 16:30.41 | lord_rob | Hi! I'm using xfs for my /home (/ too) and I already felt that files were disappearing/becoming 0-byte-long in my home folder. Is this a known phenomenom? |
| 16:30.48 | ZIPY_ | hey, im trying to fsck a partition but it says: fsck.exfat not found |
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| 16:32.20 | jhutchins | ZIPY_: need the dosfstools (I think that's the name) |
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| 16:32.35 | somiaj | actually it is most likely exfat-utils and exfat-fuse |
| 16:32.49 | somiaj | if it is really an exFAT partition |
| 16:32.50 | ZIPY_ | jhutchins: its already installed |
| 16:33.00 | ZIPY_ | k i try that somiaj |
| 16:33.22 | somiaj | looks you only have support though fuse too |
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| 16:33.28 | jhutchins | ZIPY_: Yeah, I would have thought "fat" was dosfs, but exfat. |
| 16:34.00 | somiaj | when I last checkd exfat support was nill in linux, but fuse is really allowing a lotmore support |
| 16:34.18 | ZIPY_ | hmm and how do i use it? i tried fsck.exfat -v <device> |
| 16:34.36 | ZIPY_ | it just gives me the version and name of copyright owner |
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| 16:35.38 | jhutchins | ZIPY: fsck might detect and correctly use it now. |
| 16:35.46 | jhutchins | bets there's a manpage. |
| 16:35.58 | ZIPY | sudo fsck -y /dev/sdb1 |
| 16:36.01 | ZIPY | thats what i tried too |
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| 16:36.26 | ZIPY | http://paste.debian.net/51129/ |
| 16:36.41 | ChrisH | Since a few days/updates /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon loops and is at 100% CPU Usage. checking bugs did not show me a match. Any ideas on how to proceed? strace looks like its polling on differend FDs |
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| 16:41.05 | talin | planning to install debian over a network using unetbootin on a computer running windows 7. not sure exactly which files i need, but i understand i should get them from here? http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/debian-installer/ |
| 16:41.13 | talin | i would like for as much as possible to be downloaded during install |
| 16:41.20 | talin | i plan to make a very minimal install |
| 16:41.24 | abrotman | don't use unetbootin |
| 16:41.41 | somiaj | ChrisH: what debian version? Testing? Sid? |
| 16:41.59 | abrotman | talin: unetbootin rarely works correctly |
| 16:42.04 | abrotman | dpkg: tell talin about usb install |
| 16:42.20 | talin | abrotman: hmm, okay. any good alternatives? the usb install requires that you already have a computer running linux |
| 16:42.21 | abrotman | talin: and you should use the netinst 165MB (or so) ISO |
| 16:42.32 | abrotman | talin: win32-diskimager or whatever it's called |
| 16:43.06 | abrotman | see what the bot told you |
| 16:43.24 | talin | abrotman: ah, hmm. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en says that you need to have a computer already running linux |
| 16:43.34 | ChrisH | somiaj: testing, assumed I mentioned it. |
| 16:44.14 | somiaj | ChrisH: since it is testing my guess is the bug has to do with your config/settings and or other software installed |
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| 16:44.38 | somiaj | ChrisH: some general suggestions. 1) if you have the older version .deb sitting in /var/cache/apt/archives install it and see if the hang is due to that package or something else |
| 16:44.45 | kim_bruning | Ohai! |
| 16:44.48 | kim_bruning | I'm trying to get sendmail to deliver to cyrusv2, and according to google the intertubes say my sendmail.mc should look something like this: http://util.kimbruning.eu/~kim/sendmail.mc . But sendmail keeps delivering to local anyway. What am I missing? |
| 16:44.53 | somiaj | ChrisH: at this point in ttesting if sid has a newer version you can also install the sid version see if that fixes your bug. |
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| 16:46.12 | somiaj | ChrisH: you can also use snapshot.debian.org to find the privious version of the deb, again try to figure out if the problem is what that version, and if it hangs on other versions then it might be a config issue you might have to track down |
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| 16:48.43 | abrotman | talin: ok, keep ignoring me .. clearly you know better |
| 16:49.24 | talin | abrotman: i was writing that while you wrote your last sentence |
| 16:49.51 | talin | abrotman: i am following your advice - i was just commenting that the docs should probably mention it somewhere |
| 16:50.18 | mumpitzel | talin: what wlan/ethernet chips do you plan to install it on? |
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| 16:50.59 | talin | mumpitzel: i don't quite remember, but all its hardware works on freebsd |
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| 16:51.14 | abrotman | that doesn't mean anything, totally different OS |
| 16:51.18 | talin | abrotman: i can't find that particular iso you mentioned though |
| 16:51.23 | talin | abrotman: and they snatch most drivers from linux |
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| 16:52.07 | mumpitzel | talin: doesn't mean a thing as abrotman just wrote. you just read more carefulyl |
| 16:52.27 | mumpitzel | talin: the kernel.org kernel is not like the debian kernel there |
| 16:52.34 | talin | mumpitzel: well, the fact that they get 90% of their drivers from linux, it is an indication that it might work |
| 16:52.35 | mumpitzel | due to non-free firmware |
| 16:52.54 | talin | mumpitzel: oh. hmm, i know nothing about the differences there |
| 16:52.55 | mumpitzel | talin: no it's not. but since you know everything better. why do you even ask anything? |
| 16:53.05 | somiaj | talin: one small issue is if you use wifi (and some wired cards) is debian keeps the non-free firmware outside the main repo (thus netinstalls). Having the chipset would help you figure out that, or there are unoffical firmware installers |
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| 16:53.58 | talin | somiaj: aah, okay |
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| 16:56.57 | somiaj | talin: another note despite its name, the netinstall contains a fully functional base system (minimial system) that can be installed without the internet and you can then copy over firmware and stuff to get the net working after the install. Then install the rest of the packages from the net |
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| 17:17.59 | looper_ | hi everyone ! |
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| 17:26.13 | Edowardo | using Debian Jessie 64 bit, FLAC files will not play in totem or rythmbox, but works fine in VLC. I tried installing flac under aptitude, but to no avail. Am I missing a codec? |
| 17:27.15 | somiaj | Edowardo: if you run them from a terminal do you see any errors when trying to run the file? |
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| 17:28.10 | ChrisH | somiaj: I will test and check. thanks for that ideas. |
| 17:28.22 | Edowardo | somiaj: I tried totem --debug, but it just hangs |
| 17:29.05 | Edowardo | somiaj: I end up having to kill the process which gives me no output |
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| 17:36.13 | Edowardo | using Debian Jessie 64 bit, FLAC files will not play in totem or rythmbox, but works fine in VLC. I tried installing flac under aptitude, but to no avail. Am I missing a codec? --debug shows nothing due to force close/kill |
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| 17:38.31 | rarvis | Edowardo: perhaps libflac? |
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| 17:39.56 | Edowardo | rarvis: going to give that a try now. |
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| 17:43.02 | arietis | hey |
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| 17:43.18 | arietis | how do i fix such warning? dpkg: warning: could not stat old file '//usr/share/perl/5.14.2/IO/Uncompress/Adapter/Bunzip2.pm' so not deleting it: Input/output error |
| 17:44.04 | mumpitzel | reinstall the package it belongs to and do a hardware test of your harddisk |
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| 17:45.09 | arietis | mumpitzel: how do i make hdd test? |
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| 17:52.00 | mumpitzel | arietis: smartmon-tools long test |
| 17:52.14 | mumpitzel | also check your kernel log |
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| 17:53.50 | gez | Hi, I'm getting an error while upgrading packages by apt, with the package libclutter-imcontext-0.1-bi |
| 17:53.57 | sk1pper | hi all, anyone using KVM on debian 7? |
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| 17:57.29 | gez | nevermind, found a bug report about it :) |
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| 18:04.32 | zykotick9 | sk1pper: perhaps you should ask your "real" question |
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| 18:06.30 | sk1pper | zykotick9: well my question is this, i installed KVM on debian7 and i am trying to find out how to disable dnsmasq from a virtual network, anyone knows how to disable dnsmasq from a virtual network? |
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| 18:13.20 | maxyz | sk1pper: You mean libvirt, which has a preconfigured virtual network. Check the /etc/libvirt/qemu configurations |
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| 18:13.37 | DMZ-B | hi |
| 18:15.21 | sk1pper | maxyz: yes i mean libvirt, this the only way i know how to manage KVM, I have checked the configuration of the network under /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/ |
| 18:15.29 | DMZ-B | i've a debian installation that's amd64. the kernel package is "linux-image-....-amd64" how can i install a 686 version? i used "aptitude search linux-image|grep 686" but i found nothing. Only amd64 kernels appear available in the repository. "multiarch-support" package is installed. what's wrong ? |
| 18:16.14 | sk1pper | i edited the network xml file with virsh net-edit and tried to pass different parameters to disable dnsmasq but nothing works |
| 18:16.41 | DMZ-B | sk1pper: try /etc/init.d/dnsmasq stop |
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| 18:17.07 | DMZ-B | sk1pper: then install "rcconf" to disable dnsmasq on boot |
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| 18:18.10 | sk1pper | DMZ-B: /etc/init.d/dnsmasq status [ ok ] Checking DNS forwarder and DHCP server: dnsmasq[....] (not running). |
| 18:18.36 | sk1pper | dnsmasq is not running on boot, i use chkconfig tool |
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| 18:19.46 | sk1pper | dnsmasq starts as soon as i start a virtual network and listens on the IP that the host has on that virtual network |
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| 18:21.35 | DMZ-B | how can i install a linux-image-....686 instead of a linux-image-....amd64 ? should i change something in the apt-get configuration? |
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| 18:23.10 | bullgard4 | Debian reference v.2: "type=ctime meaning='the file status change time (ls -lc)'. Where can I find an authoritative definition of 'file status'? '~$ rgrep 'file status' /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-3.2/Documentation/' obtains no output. |
| 18:23.49 | Shadur | DMZ-B: Are you sure you want to install a 32-bit kernel instead of the 64-bit you're currently using? |
| 18:24.21 | Shadur | Because unless you really know what you're doing, that has potential to thoroughly hose your system into unbootability. |
| 18:24.22 | maxyz | sk1pper: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/VirtualNetworking |
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| 18:26.22 | jelly-home | bullgard4: where is that text from, context? |
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| 18:27.46 | sk1pper | maxyz: thanks, i have seen this but it does not say how to disable dnsmasq, so either is not possible to disable dnsmasq or this is a bug |
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| 18:29.29 | johnny_ | Hello, im using debian weezy on notebook with 2 GPUs: Intel HD(integrated) and GeForce 610M (with optimus technology). Do you know any safe n easy way to setup second GPU on debian? Or any comprehensive and 100% working tutorial how to do it.. |
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| 18:29.58 | bullgard4 | jelly-home: It is in the Debian reference version 2. "1.2.6. Timestamps. There are three types of timestamps for a GNU/Linux file. Table 1.9. List of types of timestamps. +------------------------------------------+ |type |meaning. |mtime|the file modification time (ls -l) | |-----+------------------------------------| |ctime|the file status change time (ls -lc)| |-----+-------- |
| 18:30.00 | bullgard4 | ---- |
| 18:30.01 | bullgard4 | ------------------------| |atime|the last file access time (ls -lu) | +------------------------------------------+ " |
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| 18:31.23 | reavengrey | johnny_: Usually you have to (1) Go into your BIOS/UEFI setup menu at boot |
| 18:31.30 | reavengrey | And disable the onboard shared graphics card |
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| 18:31.53 | reavengrey | Then (2) get the drivers for your discrete card |
| 18:32.18 | reavengrey | And (3) Configure the card using xorg.conf if the driver setup step doesn't do it automatically |
| 18:32.41 | reavengrey | !tell johnny_ about nvidia |
| 18:32.44 | DMZ-B | Shadur: yes i'm sure. It's a VM installation and i need it to run on another machine. I'm moving the VM disk from an amd64 pc to a 686 one. |
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| 18:33.34 | johnny_ | thank you, ill look deeper into this method, i have now one more question: disabling onboard graphic will affect second OS in dual boot scenario, right? |
| 18:33.41 | johnny_ | sorry for my language |
| 18:33.46 | DMZ-B | Shadur: the problem is that, althought /etc/apt/source.list is configured ok and "multiarch-support" package is installed, i still cant find linux-image...686* in the repo |
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| 18:34.39 | DMZ-B | Shadur: in a few words: i need the 686 kernel to be able to use that VM on the other (686) pc. |
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| 18:35.43 | mumpitzel | DMZ-B: dpkg --print-architecture |
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| 18:36.25 | mumpitzel | DMZ-B: if you installed a 64bit debian, you cannot run a -686 kernel. not possible |
| 18:36.30 | DMZ-B | AlexLikeRock: mumpitzel it's "amd64" |
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| 18:36.54 | mumpitzel | DMZ-B: then you can't run a 32bit kernel |
| 18:37.46 | DMZ-B | mumpitzel: is there a way to fix this? is it "grub" that limit my ability to install 686 kernels? |
| 18:38.06 | mumpitzel | DMZ-B: the only way is reinstall debian |
| 18:38.18 | mumpitzel | no the fact that all your binaries are 64bit limits you |
| 18:38.21 | DMZ-B | mumpitzel: cant i install a 686 kernel on another machine and then copy it on the /boot directory of the VM ? |
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| 18:38.45 | mumpitzel | DMZ-B: if you boot with a 686 kernel, the best outcome is a kernel panic. you can not do this |
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| 18:39.38 | DMZ-B | mumpitzel: ah, ok. thanks. i'm going to reinstall it |
| 18:39.55 | mumpitzel | DMZ-B: reinstall i386 debian this time. you can run a amd64 kernel there just fine |
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| 18:43.38 | jiohdi | since I change to nvidia drivers, I get screen blanking after a few minutes but i can't seem to find a way to stop it |
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| 18:44.52 | jiohdi | does nvidia have its own screen saver? |
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| 18:49.28 | MycroftJones | hi guys. I using sid, and haven't upgraded in 11 months. apt-get is telling me to "force" the unmet dependancies for libc. that sounds dangerous. any thoughts? |
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| 18:49.58 | brilliant_ | what is the easiest way to install 20 stable Debian systems with different hardware? |
| 18:50.00 | mumpitzel | MycroftJones: it's sid. if you want a security blanket you don't run sid |
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| 18:51.31 | MycroftJones | tickles mumpitzel |
| 18:52.08 | mumpitzel | MycroftJones: upgrade to wheezy and from there to sid maybe |
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| 18:53.55 | MycroftJones | mumpitzel that sounds like good advice. |
| 18:54.21 | MycroftJones | Mint/Ubuntu were recently hit with flash plugin problems; is wheezy suffering the same? do flash users have to bump up to using chrome? |
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| 18:54.53 | jelly-home | bullgard4: do you have an url for that? |
| 18:55.31 | mumpitzel | MycroftJones: probably. adobe is not supporting flash for linux anymore at all. if the old one works, you are lucky. if not: tough luck, adobe doesn't give a shit |
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| 18:56.07 | MycroftJones | sigh. |
| 18:56.39 | bullgard4 | jelly-home: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ |
| 18:56.42 | MycroftJones | so, my option is to upgrade a system that is working, to get access to some software I need. but then other stuff will break. including possbly libc, which will hose the entire system. yuck. |
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| 18:59.27 | brilliant_ | mumpitzel: when did adobe canceled the support for linux? |
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| 19:00.40 | MycroftJones | brilliant_ a few months ago. |
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| 19:00.51 | brilliant_ | that is one thing, that i hoped it will never happen |
| 19:01.04 | brilliant_ | disaster! |
| 19:01.28 | mumpitzel | flash is dying and legacy by now |
| 19:01.32 | brilliant_ | best way to stamp linux in the ground |
| 19:01.38 | mumpitzel | huh? |
| 19:01.44 | reavengrey | No, linux does that to itself already |
| 19:01.57 | mumpitzel | nobody cares about flash anymore. not tablet supports it for example. right now, it's pretty much windows only |
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| 19:02.24 | brilliant_ | so linux will keep alive? |
| 19:02.35 | reavengrey | Linux is a kernel |
| 19:02.51 | brilliant_ | yes, but i mean the hole thing |
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| 19:02.56 | reavengrey | It doesn't care what userspace applications are or are not available |
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| 19:03.03 | reavengrey | brilliant_: Maybe, maybe not |
| 19:03.13 | reavengrey | It will remain viable for the people who need it |
| 19:03.21 | reavengrey | It will remain unviable for the people who don't |
| 19:03.24 | Losowski | Linux is a kernel, supplemented by some user space ;) |
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| 19:03.58 | MycroftJones | mumpitzel some of us play candy crush on facebook :P |
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| 19:05.54 | brilliant_ | so maybe some time linux user cant watch vids on youtube? |
| 19:06.26 | mumpitzel | youtube has gone html5 years ago by now |
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| 19:07.07 | MycroftJones | this makes me kind of nervous; upgrading to wheezy wants me to remove buildessential. |
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| 19:07.28 | MycroftJones | and skype! omg. |
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| 19:08.18 | reavengrey | http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt |
| 19:08.35 | reavengrey | Linux is the reason linux will never gain popularity beyond embedded and server deployment |
| 19:08.59 | reavengrey | apart from that, it works fine for a few special needs cases of people who use it for desktop |
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| 19:14.54 | brilliant_ | yes, you re right reavengrey |
| 19:15.27 | brilliant_ | nice subsection 179 |
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| 19:23.08 | calisto | any have idea how install the nvidia drivers in debian? I read http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers and docent work, mesaje Fatal not Secreen found I use nvidia-xconfig to create the xorg.conf |
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| 19:28.18 | darsie | I have no sound on youtube (e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5Y549Qu4AI), but I have sound e.g. on http://www.crackle.com/c/comedians-in-cars-getting-coffee , so sound doesn't fails with flash completely. Any help? |
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| 19:29.28 | WildMagic | i used: ufw limit ssh/tcp; but in my auth.log, I still see lines like "Failed password for invalid user icinga from 94.23.9.68 port 38880 ssh2" from a clear dictionary brute force attack in progress. I get those messages from the same ip address, every two seconds. So isn't ufw working? According to the docs, ufw limit should deny connection if more than 6 come in from the same ip addr in the last 30 seconds |
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| 19:30.09 | jelly-home | bullgard4: I meant, is there a direct link |
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| 19:31.09 | bullgard4 | jelly-home: I do not know what you mean by "a direct link". |
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| 19:33.39 | jelly-home | bullgard4: a direct link to the chapter containing the lines you quoted |
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| 19:38.57 | bullgard4 | I mentioned "1.2.6. Timestamps". This section is not difficult to find in the document mentioned. |
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| 19:41.32 | mumpitzel | bullgard4: 1.2.6 deals with virtual consoles in the debian reference manual |
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| 19:43.42 | bullgard4 | mumpitzel: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch01.en.html#_timestamps : "1.2.6. Timestamps". |
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| 19:45.03 | mumpitzel | now was this direct link that hard? |
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| 19:47.06 | bullgard4 | I did not make any statement that a link was hard. |
| 19:48.25 | kim_bruning | did you use ln , or ln -s? <ducks> |
| 19:48.38 | kim_bruning | O:-) |
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| 19:51.42 | jhutchins | WildMagic: Are you sure it's the same address? |
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| 19:52.30 | jhutchins | WildMagic: Are you running ssh on 22? |
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| 19:54.06 | rryoumaa | hmm, that manual needs updating for bind mounts when it says there are 2 ways of associating a file |
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| 20:01.19 | WildMagic | jhutchins, the ip address appearing in the logs is the same. Yes, I am running on 22 which is the standard port |
| 20:02.36 | jelly-home | bullgard4: read "ctime the file status change time (ls -lc)" as file, status change, time |
| 20:02.53 | WildMagic | jhutchins, I'd have expected that message to appear max 6 times in a 30 second period.. |
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| 20:04.13 | bullgard4 | jelly-home: Thank you. |
| 20:04.24 | jelly-home | bullgard4: ctime is one of three standard timestamps on unix-like filesystems |
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| 20:05.00 | jelly-home | bullgard4: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inode#POSIX_inode_description |
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| 20:08.51 | darsie | I have no sound on youtube. Did I perhaps mess up my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf? http://paste.debian.net/51238/ Sound generally works, also with other flash websites. |
| 20:10.34 | jhutchins | WildMagic: If you run on 22, you are going to get brute force attacks. |
| 20:11.02 | jhutchins | WildMagic: Even if you throttle them, the kernel still has to interpret the packets, which means you can have a DOS. |
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| 20:13.25 | WildMagic | jhutchins, i don't have the option of moving away from port 22. I am (so far) not facing a DOS, just repeated brute force.. so I want to begin with throttling.. but either ufw is not working as advertised, or the logs are misleading or I have failed to grasp the basic concept of throttling. I'd like to figure out which one it is :) |
| 20:14.27 | jhutchins | WildMagic: I've only done this with IPTables directly, you may want to examine the rules it's creating. |
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| 20:14.54 | jhutchins | WildMagic: Also, again, if the packets have to reach the kernel that's a problem. It is best to throttle this up-stream (at the router). |
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| 20:14.58 | Misan | hi there :X |
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| 20:16.02 | Misan | How do I set a folder for a user as default? not home directory, the directory the user comes in when he connects to FTP or SSH via Putty/whatever |
| 20:16.28 | jhutchins | wonders what kind of ssh client doesn't allow arbitrary ports... |
| 20:17.07 | ompaul | jhutchins: the one that is not being used or the firewall on the way to the target |
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| 20:18.05 | WildMagic | jhutchins, it's not the client.. it's management. They want to have it on port 22 and I can't convince them otherwise |
| 20:18.08 | Misan | from what I found on google: I should use usermod -d folder user but that doesn't really work at all.. user "spawns" still at / |
| 20:19.17 | jhutchins | Misan: look for "ssh chroot" |
| 20:19.54 | jhutchins | Misan: It should never drop the user to / unless the home filesystem doesn't exist. |
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| 20:20.20 | Misan | home folder exists.. I used adduser not useradd |
| 20:21.12 | jhutchins | Misan: THere is a chroot option in the ssh configuration. usermod is probably not the solution. |
| 20:21.22 | Misan | okay thank you a lot for |
| 20:21.29 | jhutchins | Misan: Did usermod -d correctly change the entry in /etc/passwd as shown by vipw? |
| 20:21.30 | Misan | guiding me to the right direction :) |
| 20:21.36 | Misan | Yes it did change |
| 20:22.07 | jhutchins | Misan: Does it apply the change to a console login or if you do su - <user>? |
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| 20:23.48 | Misan | I set that via root. and oh, I get permission denied if actually try to get in via su |
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| 20:33.14 | Susning | Hi. I'm trying to install Spotify on fresh install of Debian. I need libssl0.9.8 to proceed. Found instructions telling me to download the package for libssl0.9.8 and installing it manually. I try to install as much as possible by PPA's. Is it possible to install this by PPA as well? Or is that for some reason not recommended. |
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| 20:34.15 | Susning | Here is the instruction telling me to install it manually: http://linuxforcynics.com/how-to/install-spotify-on-debian-testing-wheezy |
| 20:34.44 | mumpitzel | Susning: no PPAs at all are supported in any way. never ever use any PPAs |
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| 20:34.49 | mumpitzel | PPAs are for ubuntu only |
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| 20:35.23 | Susning | mumpitzel: Never use ppa's? Why is that? Wouldn't that need for me to manually update each program hand by hand? |
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| 20:36.46 | mumpitzel | PPAs are ubuntu only. debian is not ubuntu |
| 20:36.50 | Susning | mumpitzel: I just noticed that Spotify was already available without adding anything: But i',m still interesting in the PPA-discussion :) |
| 20:36.51 | Susning | Thanks |
| 20:36.58 | Susning | that was good enough explaination for me |
| 20:37.11 | Susning | So what is the similiar way of ppa for debian? |
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| 20:37.33 | jhutchins | Susning: Build your own package from source. |
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| 20:37.39 | jhutchins | !tell Susning about uupdate |
| 20:38.32 | jhutchins | Susning: People who use debian usually do so for stability, therefore they use packages that have been adopted into the official repositories. |
| 20:38.45 | Susning | jhutchins: sounds fair. |
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| 20:39.43 | Susning | jhutchins: I just came from Ubuntu to give Debian I try. I didn't get my keyboard nor mouse to work in Ubuntu. So I'm kind of new over here. |
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| 20:39.51 | Susning | as you already have noticed ;) |
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| 20:41.03 | jhutchins | Susning: Well, the main advantage here is we're more used to manually getting stuff to work. |
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| 20:42.36 | Susning | Correct me if I'm wrong... If I compile programs from source, which to be honest sounds a little bit overkill for me... Wouldn't I need to manually redo that each time I want to update a program? Let's say any program, can it keep updated if I compiled it from source? |
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| 20:42.51 | Susning | Someone wrote uupdate.. Don't know what that is. |
| 20:43.17 | mrdeb | is there a way to install mednafen wip experimental without compiling |
| 20:43.31 | mrdeb | installing deb and then apt-get -f install doesnt work, but removes the deb |
| 20:44.00 | jhutchins | Susning: Yes, but debian has tools that make that reasonably easy. |
| 20:44.27 | Susning | Ok. |
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| 20:45.02 | jhutchins | uupdate is for building/maintaining packages from "upstream" that have not worked through the testing-and-patching process. |
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| 20:45.23 | redder | how do i install libdvdcss on debian? |
| 20:45.35 | jhutchins | !libdvdcss |
| 20:45.35 | dpkg | libdvdcss is a free software library for unscrambling <CSS>-encrypted DVDs, not to be confused with <DeCSS>. It is not distributed by Debian due to legal concerns. To acquire, install the libdvdcss2 package available from deb-multimedia, ask me about <dmm> and <dmm pinning>. http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html |
| 20:45.42 | Susning | The Add/Remove Software seems a little wierd. I click "Apply" after having checked stuff I want. Nothing happends. Any ideas? |
| 20:46.10 | jhutchins | Susning: Dunno, I never use the GUI. |
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| 20:47.05 | Susning | Ok. I probably will ;) |
| 20:47.21 | Susning | if it works. that is. |
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| 20:48.07 | babilen | redder: I'd recommend to download the package directly from dmm and install it manually with dpkg. That way you won't install other packages from there. |
| 20:48.26 | redder | babilen what is dmm? |
| 20:48.30 | redder | im still reading the wiki |
| 20:48.46 | redder | PS thx jhutchins |
| 20:49.09 | babilen | redder: "/msg dpkg dmm pinning" elaborates on another approach. dmm is Debian Multimedia and an unofficial repository that contains multimedia applications that we cannot distribute due to, among other, legal reasons. |
| 20:49.24 | cmptr | babilen: just do it |
| 20:49.33 | Susning | So, is that like the hardcore line that you compile everything for scratch either that or your out. Or is there any acceptance for let's say, mostly using the graphical interface and avoiding terminal until things gets messy and you find no other way around. Or are you off to Ubuntu at that stage? :p |
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| 20:49.59 | babilen | redder: It's okay for some packages, but you really don't want to install packages from there by default as that caused various problems for users in the past. |
| 20:50.04 | mrdeb | how do you install debian on uefi laptop. |
| 20:50.07 | mrdeb | is it easy with usb |
| 20:50.07 | babilen | cmptr: I don't quite follow. |
| 20:50.18 | mrdeb | before i buy, i need to know |
| 20:50.22 | cmptr | provide all of the illegal stuff man |
| 20:50.32 | cmptr | peeps |
| 20:50.36 | babilen | mrdeb: You just install it, you'll get grub-efi if you boot the installer in uefi mode. |
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| 20:50.46 | babilen | cmptr: Drop it please. |
| 20:50.46 | kanja | Is there a way to upgrade my kernel from 3.2 on wheezy? I think I'm hitting a bug that was fixed in 3.4. |
| 20:50.55 | babilen | dpkg: tell kanja -about bdo kernel |
| 20:51.05 | babilen | kanja: That gets you 3.10 from backports. |
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| 20:51.06 | kanja | babilen: Thanks! |
| 20:51.28 | kanja | I think that is the fastest and best response I've ever gotten on an irc channel |
| 20:51.31 | redder | babilen so i go to deb-multimedia.org, look for the file and then download? |
| 20:51.36 | babilen | kanja: Make sure to install (if applicable) firmware packages from wheezy-backports too. |
| 20:51.39 | mrdeb | babilen: so can you plug in the usb stick, then hit somethign to enter boot select like in BIOS laptops, then then isntall? |
| 20:51.44 | mrdeb | is that it |
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| 20:52.04 | kanja | babilen: what firmware packages might I need? How can I list those out? |
| 20:52.08 | redder | also is there a good IRC client cuz i keep getting kicked off of the firefox window i have it open in |
| 20:52.18 | babilen | redder: Well, you can also configure it in your /etc/apt/sources.list and set the pinning as detailed in "/msg dpkg dmm pinning" ; that has the advantage that you get updates and that the installation is easier. I'd actually recommend that approach. |
| 20:52.27 | cmptr | redder: check xchat |
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| 20:52.51 | redder | i dont understand what is meant by "/msg dpkg dmm pinning" |
| 20:53.02 | redder | cmptr so just use apt-get to install it? |
| 20:53.07 | cmptr | sure |
| 20:53.16 | babilen | redder: irssi is good, weechat too .. both are console clients. People seem to like kvirc or quassel. |
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| 20:53.32 | babilen | redder: You send a message to our bot that causes it to show you: |
| 20:53.35 | babilen | dpkg: dmm pinning |
| 20:53.35 | dpkg | To ensure that you only get the packages you really want from deb-multimedia.org, «echo -e 'Package: *\nPin: origin "www.deb-multimedia.org"\nPin-Priority: 101' > /etc/apt/preferences.d/dmm». Check this worked with «apt-cache policy» or «apt-cache policy $package». Ask me about <why not dmm>. |
| 20:53.36 | cmptr | uses irssi |
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| 20:53.42 | ectospasm | I'm having an issue with smartmontools... logwatch/syslog reports a S.M.A.R.T. error on one of my disks (Offline uncorrectable sector), but when I run "smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda" or "smartctl -A /dev/sda" I don't see any error sectors. |
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| 20:54.11 | jhutchins | ectospasm: Check your cables. |
| 20:54.26 | ectospasm | jhutchins: no |
| 20:54.31 | ectospasm | cables are just fine |
| 20:54.35 | dorito_125 | dpkg: why not dmm? |
| 20:54.35 | dpkg | The deb-multimedia.org repository was once the only way of getting good multimedia support. By the release of Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" this was mostly not true and for Debian 7 "Wheezy" this situation is even better. Libraries from dmm are known to cause incompatibilities with packages from Debian; packages may not meet the <DFSG> so are not allowed in Debian. Use dmm as a last resort; ask me about <dmm pinning> and <dmm remove>. |
| 20:54.39 | ectospasm | Otherwise I wouldn't be typing right now. |
| 20:54.48 | babilen | mrdeb: Not entirely sure what you mean, but yes: UEFI laptops (well, all I've encountered) let you boot from USB |
| 20:54.55 | babilen | dpkg: tell dorito_125 -about msgthebot |
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| 20:55.27 | mrdeb | babilen: ok, and if u install grub uefi, it wont mess up the uefi if u need to install windows back later etc? |
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| 20:56.50 | Susning | Does Gnome has workspaces in Debian? I've googled and instructions tells that CTRL+ALT+arrows would change, but don't get any action doing that. Don't know if the information I found was relevant today. |
| 20:57.13 | kanja | babilen: according to https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware I've found my firmware packages - how do I specify a kernel version for them and reinstall? |
| 20:57.22 | kanja | Susning: Yes gnome has workspaces in Debian |
| 20:57.30 | darsie | I have no sound on youtube. Did I perhaps mess up my /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf? http://paste.debian.net/51259/ Sound generally works, also with other flash websites. (sorry for posting again, but now babilen is here and jhutchins looks smart, too ;). |
| 20:57.40 | kanja | Susning: It might depend on what mode gnome is engaged in, but I'm running gnome classic and I have workspaces |
| 20:57.44 | cmptr | darsie: try unmuting |
| 20:57.51 | kanja | ha |
| 20:58.11 | kanja | I'd hope the problem is a little harder then that :) |
| 20:58.22 | darsie | cmptr: I can play live radio fine, so audio is unmuted. |
| 20:58.24 | cmptr | gnome3 has workspaces too |
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| 20:58.43 | darsie | I also tried if youtube uses the other sound card. |
| 20:58.55 | Susning | cmptr: any ideas why nothing happend when i try to change desktop then? |
| 20:58.58 | kanja | darsie: oh it's specific to youtube? do other flash videos put out sound? |
| 20:59.10 | bullgard4 | Susning: GNOME 2 does have workspaces. As far as I know, GNOME 3.4 does not have workspaces by default. But you can set them up. (I donot use GNOME 3.4.) |
| 20:59.14 | cmptr | nah i use openbox |
| 20:59.20 | darsie | kanja: chatroulette has no sound, too, but other flash sites have sound. |
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| 20:59.36 | kanja | ...that is really bizzare - I don't think it's an os issue then |
| 20:59.43 | kanja | sound works everywhere except two specific sites |
| 21:00.01 | Susning | bullgard4: thanks i'll look in to that. |
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| 21:00.35 | Susning | by the way. no mather what i try to uninstall it seems to want to remove gnome desktop enviroment as a depend... Can that be correct? |
| 21:01.00 | Susning | Try to remove games, browser I don't want, etc. Everything seems to want to remove gnome. |
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| 21:01.35 | reavengrey | rofl |
| 21:01.37 | babilen | dpkg: tell Susning -about install gnome |
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| 21:01.59 | kanja | what is the difference in backported kernal versoins between .2 and .3? Ie linux-image-3.10-0.bpo.3-amd64 and linux-image-3.10-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 21:02.07 | babilen | Susning: You probably want to install one of the smaller metapackages if you aren't happy with the package selection of "gnome" |
| 21:02.15 | kanja | is that a version of the package? |
| 21:02.15 | babilen | kanja: Different ABI versions |
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| 21:02.30 | babilen | dpkg: tell kanja -about kernel abi |
| 21:02.31 | kanja | dpkg: tell kanja -about ABI |
| 21:02.43 | kanja | haha I'm trying to keep up! :) |
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| 21:03.16 | babilen | kanja: You can just "/msg dpkg abi" ; there is no need to do this in public in the channel. |
| 21:03.22 | mrdeb | is firefox 24 faster tahn iceweasel 17.09 |
| 21:03.23 | Susning | babilen: ok, but if i reinstall the ordinary gnome-packages that just got removed i suppoes the games will get back as well? i would like a more stripped down gnome. i choose music application and browser myself. |
| 21:04.03 | BenNZ | would anyone know why i might be having trouble with sound not playing on youtube , but it does play on flash video ? |
| 21:04.05 | kanja | babilen: thanks |
| 21:04.39 | darsie | BenNZ: I just asked for this exact same problem. |
| 21:04.52 | darsie | s/for/about :) |
| 21:05.19 | BenNZ | darsie: did you find out what it was? |
| 21:05.23 | darsie | not yet |
| 21:06.13 | babilen | Susning: yes, which is why I recommend installing *a smaller* gnome metapackage than "gnome" (e.g. gnome-session) Please read the message our bot sent you in private. You can then also mark other packages you would like to keep as manually installed (so they won't get removed automatically) with either apt-mark or "apt-get install FOO" |
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| 21:06.26 | babilen | kanja: You are welcome :) |
| 21:06.45 | kanja | you've really helped me a lot - irc is crazy like that :) |
| 21:06.52 | kanja | 5 min and I learn more than 30 min of googling |
| 21:07.18 | kanja | oh snap: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org |
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| 21:07.31 | kanja | is that current? I'll just read that |
| 21:07.55 | kanja | man I need to sit down and have a "debian day" where I just read debian documentation |
| 21:08.03 | babilen | kanja: yes, that is current. You don't have to compile a kernel at all if you install it from backports. :) |
| 21:08.29 | darsie | BenNZ: I also have no sound on chatroulette, but I have sound on http://www.crackle.com/c/comedians-in-cars-getting-coffee and http://www.songsofinsects.com/flashtest/index.html |
| 21:09.01 | BenNZ | darsie: i wonder if its the something to do with the way debian has packaged flash , going to try flash from adobe |
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| 21:09.32 | darsie | BenNZ: Tell me if you succeed: bernhard@bksys.at |
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| 21:09.59 | kanja | babilen: good to know! still I'm going to read this - I'd rather know too much than too little :) |
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| 21:10.43 | darsie | BenNZ: I just made aptitude full-upgrade. got new iceweasel and xulrunner and kernel. No change yet, but will reboot now to test the new kernel. |
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| 21:12.22 | Susning | babilen: Nice. Thanks. gnome-core seems to be what I looked for much better now :D |
| 21:13.24 | babilen | Susning: great! have fun :) |
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| 21:14.43 | Susning | babilen: It's always a little bit confusing comming from other distros. I've been using eOS for the last weeks. But to be honest I'm still trying to get into a "comfort zone" with *nix systems. It will be nice learning to know Debian ;) |
| 21:14.52 | Susning | ...or at least be familiar to it |
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| 21:16.39 | Susning | by the way. how is the support for suspend and hibernation? is there often issues? that was my main reason that i stopped used eos since my computer locked each time it suspended. Is there hibernation set as standard? If so, how do I turn off hibernation? |
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| 21:19.16 | frikinz | Try? |
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| 21:20.22 | bertrik | I tried to go from ubuntu 13.04 to debian jessie, I kept my /home but now nothing really happens when starting gnome, I see the background and mouse but no menus and clicking left or right has no effect at all |
| 21:20.46 | bertrik | any suggestions? |
| 21:22.18 | bertrik | I do get to choose the user to login in gdm3 and the type of session (default, gnome, gnome-classic), but after login I get the effect described above |
| 21:22.19 | babilen | Susning: Works fine on my T420, but then thinkpads were always perfectly supported (most DDs have one) |
| 21:22.46 | abrotman | bertrik: go to how ? |
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| 21:22.48 | kanja | bertrik: did you blow away all of the .gnome files? |
| 21:22.52 | Susning | babilen: anyhow i would like to disable hibernation if there is any such option.. |
| 21:23.49 | bertrik | abrotman: ran the install from an usb stick, elected to format / but to keep /home (and swap) |
| 21:24.06 | abrotman | okay |
| 21:24.08 | bertrik | kanja: I tried, but I'm not completely sure which ones to delete |
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| 21:24.51 | bertrik | kanja: deleted.gconf .metacity and .gnome2 |
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| 21:25.00 | abrotman | .config ? |
| 21:25.04 | MonochromaticPio | Hi |
| 21:25.04 | MonochromaticPio | o/ |
| 21:25.41 | bertrik | abrotman: I'll try that, thanks |
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| 21:27.32 | bertrik | abrotman: yay, worked, but I think I nuked every app setting now (I have a backup) |
| 21:27.41 | kanja | bertrik: yeah .config is the big one |
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| 21:28.32 | kanja | after installing the linux-image-amd64 package |
| 21:28.49 | kanja | wlil I need to reinitalize my initramfs ? |
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| 21:31.24 | abrotman | shuld do it on its own |
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| 21:33.58 | BenNZ | would anyone know why i might be having trouble with sound not playing on youtube , but it does play other flash video ?ll886388 |
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| 21:37.10 | frikinz | I still find the debian website not that clear. what should I dl if I want to do a netinst? :) |
| 21:37.30 | abrotman | dpkg: tell frikinz about netinst |
| 21:38.14 | frikinz | ah was one line above. I clicked on netboot I think |
| 21:38.17 | frikinz | abrotman: thanks |
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| 21:58.00 | orfix | Hi, I want to install debian in dualboot (Windows 7 already installed) on a thinkpad X220 laptop with two HD, the disks layout is as follow: http://www.mounirorfi.com/images/share/debian/debian_hd.jpg |
| 21:58.37 | abrotman | why are they ntfs? |
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| 21:59.44 | orfix | abrotman: I didn't yet installed Debian on it it's just Windows as is... I want to resize the #2 partition on sdb to free up some space for Debian |
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| 22:00.16 | abrotman | what is on partition #2 ? |
| 22:00.16 | kanja | I was able to upgrade my kernel, and that was the issue! hurray! |
| 22:00.17 | orfix | create an extended partition there with / and a swap... then use sda as /home |
| 22:00.19 | orfix | is it OK ? |
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| 22:00.30 | abrotman | erm .. partition #1 |
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| 22:00.42 | orfix | #2 is Window7 I believe |
| 22:00.57 | abrotman | you don't care about any of the data on sdb ? |
| 22:01.04 | orfix | #1 probably the UEFI things... |
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| 22:01.37 | orfix | I want to keep Windows7 and the recovery partition that came with it |
| 22:01.53 | abrotman | so you don't to erase #2 ? |
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| 22:02.08 | orfix | abrotman: no just resize it to free up some space |
| 22:02.18 | orfix | for Debian (both / and swap) |
| 22:02.47 | rrm | q: does deb 7 i386 works with non pae processor? |
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| 22:03.34 | orfix | sdb is an SSD hard drive, that's why I want to put Debian there too... |
| 22:03.47 | neuromancer | If I want to switch DEs, I can just install the related task-*-desktop, right? |
| 22:03.52 | neuromancer | Any dpkg reconfiguring? |
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| 22:04.16 | orfix | can I put / and swap on an extended partition ? |
| 22:04.28 | abrotman | you can |
| 22:05.23 | orfix | abrotman: any idea about UEFI ? |
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| 22:06.06 | jhutchins | !tell orfix avout uefi |
| 22:06.22 | orfix | !tell orfix about uefi |
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| 22:08.04 | we6jbo | Hi |
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| 22:08.40 | we6jbo | Will the NVIDIA Quadro K600 work on a Debian install for gaming? |
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| 22:09.32 | abrotman | does it work in linux? |
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| 22:10.15 | mtn | neuromancer: if you want to install other des, you can use the package manager, aptitude install gnome, for instance |
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| 22:10.33 | C00re | personally i would not use unix/linux for gaming |
| 22:11.18 | we6jbo | What I mean is, is will it work |
| 22:12.19 | neuromancer | mtn: I already did, but it feels like some things aren't being consistently switched over. Mainly between xfce's gtk2 only nature and gnomes gtk3 bonanza |
| 22:12.43 | jhutchins | orfix: You should now have at least one message from dpkg. |
| 22:13.16 | C00re | if there is a driver for the graphiccard avaible, it will probably work |
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| 22:13.34 | mtn | neuromancer: please explain what you mean by that. what is actually wrong? |
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| 22:14.03 | orfix | jhutchins: yep, it tells me that Debian do support UEFI, but I have to disable the <secure boot>. |
| 22:14.22 | neuromancer | A few things are gtk3, but most are gtk2. |
| 22:14.38 | neuromancer | iceweasel and libreoffice notably. |
| 22:15.02 | jhutchins | orfix: You should also turn off fast booting in windows as it will corrupt the disk. |
| 22:15.04 | orfix | jhutchins: I just want to make sure that my partitioning would work before doing it... resize #2 to free up some space, create an extended partition there to hold both / and swap. then use sda for /home |
| 22:15.31 | neuromancer | The colors are consistent, but the actual shape of the buttons is the default. And yes, my gtk themes I'm testing it with has gtk2/gtk3 support. |
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| 22:16.09 | orfix | jhutchins: I will. What do you think about my partitioning scheme ? |
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| 22:17.00 | jhutchins | orfix: I haven't really looked into ssd optimization, I am sure there are plenty of articles on it. |
| 22:17.15 | jhutchins | orfix: I prefer to have as few partitions as possible. |
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| 22:18.33 | brilliant_ | jhutchins: what is the reason for so many partitions |
| 22:18.37 | jhutchins | orfix: I believe some people put / on the ssd and /var on the HD. |
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| 22:19.05 | jhutchins | brilliant_: It's an archaic holdover that really goes back to mainframes with hard drives the size of washing machines. |
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| 22:19.47 | orfix | jhutchins: I usually create 3 partitions / /home and swap |
| 22:20.13 | jhutchins | orfix: I don't. / and swap. |
| 22:21.12 | mtn | with easy backups, I have seen no need for a seperate home |
| 22:21.15 | jhutchins | I think separate /home is mostly a holdover from shared multiuser mainframes. |
| 22:21.39 | brilliant_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.44 | orfix | having /home on it's own parition is very usefull if you later wanted to do a fresh install you don't loose your data |
| 22:22.01 | jhutchins | orfix: Restore from backup. |
| 22:22.02 | orfix | brilliant_: yep, I've always done that. |
| 22:22.09 | brilliant_ | not bad |
| 22:22.31 | orfix | jhutchins: time consuming :P |
| 22:22.39 | jcbjoe | wierd |
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| 22:22.44 | jcbjoe | my messages are showing up 2 times |
| 22:22.48 | orfix | once I've moved from ubuntu to debian keeping the same /home |
| 22:22.55 | brilliant_ | orfix: but in your fresh install you have to use the same username.. |
| 22:23.07 | orfix | brilliant_: yep |
| 22:23.15 | jhutchins | In my case backing up to the server lets me keep running the older versions of software that doesn't handle upgrades correctly. I can recover my kde3 address book when kde4 trashes it. |
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| 22:24.49 | orfix | jhutchins: I regulary backup all my HDs to a FreeNAS box. |
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| 22:26.49 | jhutchins | One thing that can get you when you do that is if you move to a distribution that uses an older version of a hidden config file in $HOME. |
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| 22:27.32 | kanja | this is the exact bug I'm seeing right now: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717311 - it was closed with the reply "We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of nvidia-graphics-drivers, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive. " - can someone explain to me what that means? It's just not parsing for some reason |
| 22:28.03 | orfix | with 8G of RAM, how much swap do you recommend ? |
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| 22:28.09 | grimeton | orfix: none |
| 22:28.15 | jhutchins | kanja: It means there is a newer version available that fixes the bug. |
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| 22:28.26 | kanja | jhutchins: oh duh |
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| 22:28.40 | jhutchins | orfix: Do you need suspend-to-ram? |
| 22:28.53 | orfix | hibernate ? |
| 22:29.00 | jhutchins | orfix: I mean -to-disk? |
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| 22:29.34 | jhutchins | If you need suspend-to-disk, you need 1x RAM. Otherwise 2-4g is plenty. |
| 22:29.48 | orfix | Ah I see... |
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| 22:30.10 | jhutchins | Rule used to be 2x RAM, but swapping 16G would be so slow as to be useless. |
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| 22:30.44 | orfix | so swap isn't mandatory... I can do without it ? |
| 22:30.58 | grimeton | orfix: yes and if you need it later, create a swapfile |
| 22:31.27 | jhutchins | It's good to have for emergencies and unexpected problems, but 8G means you can usually run without it. |
| 22:31.37 | kanja | jhutchins: so here's the package: http://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy/nvidia-graphics-drivers - but it's not in apt? apologies if I'm not thinking great right now |
| 22:31.45 | kanja | shouldn't I be able to apt-get install that sucker? |
| 22:31.54 | orfix | grimeton: seems like a good idea :) |
| 22:31.59 | abrotman | kanja: you probably want the dkms packages |
| 22:32.00 | jhutchins | kanja: I believe it's in contrib or non-free. |
| 22:32.05 | abrotman | dpkg: tell kanja about deb-src |
| 22:32.19 | jhutchins | abrotman: He was looking at a bug in the debian version. |
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| 22:32.25 | orfix | it means I will just resize #2 and add a new "primary" partition for / |
| 22:33.17 | abrotman | jhutchins: but he still needs a deb-src line |
| 22:33.26 | abrotman | isn't sure what bug he'd be looking at, it's a binary blob |
| 22:33.56 | kanja | abrotman: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717311 |
| 22:34.22 | kanja | I already had a deb-src line for non-free.. - let me try adding http.debian.net and see if that helps? |
| 22:34.23 | abrotman | looks |
| 22:34.40 | kanja | it's not that interesting, it's more me not understanding apt |
| 22:34.55 | abrotman | oh, you're combining dkms meant for the stable 3.2 with the bpo 3.10 |
| 22:35.07 | abrotman | though it does say fixed? |
| 22:35.30 | kanja | yeah - in a version was supposed to go live in july? |
| 22:35.58 | kanja | but - sudo apt-get install nvidia-graphics-drivers == E: Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers |
| 22:36.05 | kanja | which makes me think I'm doing something stupid with my apt |
| 22:36.27 | kanja | but I already have a wheezy main contrib non-free line |
| 22:36.35 | grimeton | kanja: or the error wasn't solved |
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| 22:37.15 | abrotman | kanja: the version in wheezy is older than that bug addresses |
| 22:37.15 | kanja | grimeton: but the package is here - http://packages.debian.org/source/sid/nvidia-graphics-drivers - so shouldn't at least get an attempted install? |
| 22:37.24 | pederindi | Hi, I want to enable "tap to click", and "horizontal scrolling with two fingers". I see this - https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad - but seems confusing when you are not in gnome or kde. I should use the xorg.conf way? Suggestions? |
| 22:37.33 | kanja | or no, you think the dkms would prevent it from installing? |
| 22:37.52 | pederindi | extra info, I have: N: Name="SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad" |
| 22:37.54 | grimeton | kanja: what version do you have installed atm? |
| 22:38.24 | grimeton | and btw the package is in sid not in wheezy |
| 22:38.31 | abrotman | thought for sure he'd get a pile of /msg spam crap |
| 22:38.47 | kanja | 3.10 for kernel (just upgraded, which is what broke nvidia) and Installed: 304.88-1+deb7u1 for nvidia-kernel-dmks |
| 22:38.56 | grimeton | kanja: on wheezy? |
| 22:39.00 | babilen_ | pederindi: Put something like http://paste.debian.net/51302/ in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/25-synaptics.conf (create that directory if it doesn't exist) and adjust it to your wishes. Read "man synaptics" to learn about suitable options. |
| 22:39.01 | kanja | yeah, wheezy |
| 22:39.10 | grimeton | kanja: then that's the latest version available |
| 22:39.38 | kanja | I guess I'm confused because apt doesn't find the package? |
| 22:39.43 | pederindi | babilen_: hey! thanks!! :D |
| 22:40.01 | grimeton | kanja: which package? the source package? |
| 22:40.11 | kanja | grimeton: yeah, the source package |
| 22:41.07 | konradb | have question. I have install linux mint 14(I know, I know it's not mint channel. but it is still debian!) few months ago and I have choosen /home encryption |
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| 22:41.24 | abrotman | konradb: use the mint support channel |
| 22:41.28 | konradb | ;_; |
| 22:41.30 | grimeton | kanja: what does apt-get source nvidia-graphics-drivers say? |
| 22:41.46 | abrotman | konradb: #mint-support on irc.spotchat.org I believe |
| 22:41.50 | abrotman | konradb: good luck |
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| 22:42.20 | seoNinjaWarrior | i'm hoping someone can help, I'm using rsnapshot and it seems to complete successfully and yet do nothing http://pastebin.com/HmrGjrPL - that has my config, the output to the screen, and output to log file. I know this is debian channel but I figured someone here would know how to fix this. I'm 2 hours in and pulling at my hair :/ |
| 22:42.24 | kanja | grimeton: ahhhhhh that was it |
| 22:42.32 | kanja | why didn't I see source package and think apt-get source |
| 22:42.41 | kanja | grimeton: thank you! |
| 22:42.47 | grimeton | kanja: you're welcome |
| 22:43.07 | kanja | I'm still kind of a noob sadly :) |
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| 22:43.49 | abrotman | kanja: that's what the deb-src factoid was supposed to clue you in about ;) |
| 22:44.56 | kanja | yeah for real. |
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| 22:47.06 | jhutchins | seoNinjaWarrior: http://www.howtoforge.com/set-up-rsnapshot-archiving-of-snapshots-and-backup-of-mysql-databases-on-debian |
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| 22:48.17 | seoNinjaWarrior | jhutchins: that's pretty much EXACTLY my config |
| 22:48.51 | neuromancer | Is Iceweasel gtk3 or gtk2? |
| 22:48.52 | seoNinjaWarrior | jhutchins: i'm trying to run the most simplified version of that pretty much, just to get it to work |
| 22:48.56 | seoNinjaWarrior | and it's doing nothing |
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| 22:50.26 | abrotman | neuromancer: look at the dependencies |
| 22:51.40 | seoNinjaWarrior | jhutchins: never mind figured it out. |
| 22:51.46 | seoNinjaWarrior | jhutchins: thanks anyway :) |
| 22:51.47 | jhutchins | seoNinjaWarrior: What was it? |
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| 22:53.57 | seoNinjaWarrior | jhutchins: as far as I'm concerned this is retarded. pretty much every guide I've read states that "sync_first" should be on by default ALWAYS. So I did that. Only if you do that before running it it doesn't do anything (makes sense really doesn't have anything to sync). So I guess you have to run it ONCE at 0, and then every other time keep it at 1 |
| 22:54.04 | neuromancer | abrotman: aptitude show will show the currently installed version regardless of whether or not it's a bpo, right? |
| 22:54.11 | seoNinjaWarrior | jhutchins: I hope I'm wrong about that |
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| 22:54.54 | seoNinjaWarrior | jhutchins: Seems like it would be really easy to fix this in the code. Ughhhh. |
| 22:55.00 | seoNinjaWarrior | jhutchins: sorry venting, been at this for 2 hours |
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| 22:55.15 | abrotman | neuromancer: apt-cache policy foo |
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| 22:58.19 | Enyx | Hi could someone help me with dnsmasq ? |
| 22:58.21 | Enyx | It's simple, i have a VPN but it doesnt forward DNS so i installed dnsmask ... still doesnt forward ... |
| 22:58.35 | abrotman | notes it's apparently not simple .. |
| 22:59.06 | grimeton | Enyx: you have to forward the dns stuff through your vpn to exit on the other end and query the servers that should be used on the other end |
| 22:59.21 | grimeton | Enyx: easiest way would be to set the "other end" dns servers and then route them through the vpn |
| 22:59.24 | grimeton | problem solved |
| 22:59.51 | Enyx | grimeton ofc that works, but i can't ask every user to change their dns :p |
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| 23:00.08 | grimeton | Enyx: no, but you can change the dns on your system that plays dns server on the network |
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| 23:00.32 | Enyx | grimeton change it to what ? each user have a different dns :x |
| 23:00.50 | grimeton | Enyx: whats the topology? a local subnet where every user has its own dns settings? |
| 23:01.03 | grimeton | and they all pass your router to connect to the outer rim? |
| 23:02.27 | Enyx | Nope connecting to the VPN through port 80 to bypass restriction on different network + hide IP, so Client <-> Internet <-> VPN <-> Internet <-> Server |
| 23:03.16 | grimeton | then you have to change the dns settings on each client to the one you want to be used |
| 23:03.33 | grimeton | install dnsmasq on the vpn box and then let all the clients query your vpn box as dns server |
| 23:04.03 | Enyx | I installed it |
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| 23:05.19 | Enyx | i and forced redirect-gateway |
| 23:05.41 | grimeton | if you force a redirect-gateway and the dns server of the clients is in their local subnet it won't help |
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| 23:05.53 | grimeton | best way is to make sure that you overwrite the dns settings on the client side |
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| 23:07.18 | Enyx | grimeton how to do that ? |
| 23:07.32 | grimeton | Enyx: depends on the vpn solution you use and the options it offers |
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| 23:08.55 | Enyx | OpenVPN, it's a dedicated server so i can do whatever i want x) |
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| 23:09.03 | Enyx | if tht's the question x) |
| 23:09.09 | grimeton | Enyx: then i'd suggest you start reading the openvpn manual |
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| 23:09.36 | Enyx | you can use push to force DNS config ? |
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| 23:10.45 | grimeton | Enyx: read the manual, it's all in there |
| 23:11.07 | Enyx | grimeton ok, i just didnt knew i could do this directly there :p |
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| 23:20.55 | quinso | Is it possible to check integrity of installed packages? |
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| 23:23.36 | abrotman | quinso: debsums |
| 23:24.19 | darsie | abrotman: That checks .deb files, or installed files of a package? |
| 23:24.36 | abrotman | it has a package description |
| 23:25.01 | grimeton | quinso: you can use the md5sum files in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 23:25.44 | abrotman | grimeton: debsums |
| 23:26.21 | abrotman | not sure folks think I make up crazy stuff |
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| 23:26.33 | grimeton | quinso: cd /; md5sums -c /var/lib/dpkg/info/$package_name.md5sum |
| 23:26.40 | abrotman | grimeton: DEBSUMS |
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| 23:29.21 | talin | i just installed debian on a dell latitude xt2 laptop, and everything seemed to go well. after installation, it just gets to a blinking cursor, and nothing happens |
| 23:29.53 | abrotman | talin: nvidia video? |
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| 23:30.06 | talin | any ideas where to start looking for issues? the only thing i could think of, is that perhaps it tried to install grub on the usb stick i installed it from, or something |
| 23:30.09 | talin | abrotman: no, intel |
| 23:30.31 | grimeton | talin: remove the silent boot setting to get more output then check again |
| 23:31.06 | abrotman | wonders what silent boot option |
| 23:31.18 | abrotman | talin: oh, you're saying it doesn't even flash grub? |
| 23:32.30 | talin | abrotman: yes, all i see is a blinking _ when i boot |
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| 23:35.08 | abrotman | talin: there were no errors when it installed grub? |
| 23:35.30 | talin | abrotman: no errors at all |
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| 23:36.22 | talin | it asked for permission to "install grub on the mbr on the first disk" |
| 23:36.30 | eindoofus | hi, I installed debian with the ftp server option check but I have no idea what it installed. does anyone know? |
| 23:36.42 | eindoofus | which ftp server got installed? |
| 23:36.48 | talin | at an earlier stage when it asked which disk to install to, it suggested the usb disk first, so that made me suspicious |
| 23:36.52 | abrotman | eindoofus: dpkg -l *ftp* |
| 23:37.19 | grimeton | eindoofus: netstat -anp | grep -iE '.*tcp.*21.*' |
| 23:37.24 | eindoofus | abrotman, all i see is ftp, ftpmirror, and sftp |
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| 23:39.29 | eindoofus | grimeton, tcp 0 0.0.0.0:901 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| 23:39.36 | eindoofus | thats all I see from that |
| 23:39.41 | grimeton | eindoofus: i'm missing the 21 in there |
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| 23:40.10 | eindoofus | I'm confused. I see 21 in your command. |
| 23:40.19 | grimeton | eindoofus: yeah but not in the result |
| 23:40.43 | eindoofus | Sorry, I really don't know how to type that correctly |
| 23:41.17 | grimeton | eindoofus: what's the problem? |
| 23:41.31 | eindoofus | grimeton, can you repaste with the corrections? |
| 23:41.51 | grimeton | eindoofus: there is no correction. but your result doesn't match the search term in the grep statement |
| 23:42.12 | grimeton | eindoofus: it searches for lines with "21" in it, but in your result ain't a line with 21 |
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| 23:43.21 | eindoofus | this is strange. i could have sworn i checked to have the ftp server installed |
| 23:43.23 | abrotman | eindoofus: tasksel --list-tasks .. do you see any ftp server option? |
| 23:43.34 | abrotman | eindoofus: did you perhaps check File Server? |
| 23:43.43 | grimeton | eindoofus: if in doubt install vsftp |
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| 23:44.15 | eindoofus | that may have been the case, i do see file server. i'll install vsftp |
| 23:44.21 | eindoofus | thanks for the help |
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| 23:46.48 | quinso | Why are gcc-doc-base and gcc-4.7-doc non-free? |
| 23:47.07 | abrotman | dpkg: tell quinso about gfdl |
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| 23:50.59 | Rydekull | abrotman: got any better suggestion to just list updates for a script then "echo n | apt-get upgrade" ? |
| 23:51.26 | abrotman | aptitude search '~U' ? |
| 23:52.30 | Rydekull | hmm, requires that the system has and uses aptitude, any other suggestion with base dpkg/apt-tools? |
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| 23:59.22 | zophy | hi |
| 23:59.30 | zophy | how's things ? |
