| 00:00.03 | sankey | so i think there will be conflicting /pool dirs |
| 00:01.25 | sankey | maybe there is an APPEND option to tell debian to look at a different pool directory? |
| 00:01.44 | sankey | so i can just name them /pool1 /pool2 etc. |
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| 00:04.34 | bezaban | sankey: ah, sorry. that's a little too specialized for me |
| 00:06.51 | sankey | bezaban: actually, i'll be preparing a multiboot environment over PXE also |
| 00:06.54 | sankey | have you ever done that? |
| 00:07.02 | sankey | (using PXELINUX) |
| 00:07.22 | tomman | Anyone here that knows something about building multiarch packages? |
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| 00:08.14 | MrBIOS | hi folks, trying to resolve this issue: |
| 00:08.16 | MrBIOS | tzdata-java : Depends: tzdata (= 2013c-0wheezy1) but 2013d-0wheezy1 |
| 00:08.23 | MrBIOS | I'm encountering that when installing the jre |
| 00:08.25 | bezaban | sankey: I've used PXE a fair bit |
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| 00:08.54 | bezaban | atm I'm focusing on booting VM off USB |
| 00:09.03 | bezaban | for a stupid project... |
| 00:09.44 | bezaban | pxelinux is quite straight forward, but you are a little limited in the pre-boot enviroment |
| 00:11.38 | bezaban | s/a little/very |
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| 00:12.57 | sankey | i hope "very limited" = "very easy" :-) |
| 00:13.10 | bezaban | has some good chain loader though, so the major hurdles are with propietary stuff |
| 00:14.35 | bezaban | sankey: it's not hard :) think what you are after is called syslinux |
| 00:14.39 | themill | MrBIOS: command and full output in a pastebin might help |
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| 00:18.11 | tomman | Nevermind, just solved my problem. Didn't know why I was getting a "libc-i386:i386" dependency on the built i386 package... |
| 00:18.33 | tomman | (obviously such a package does NOT exist, libc6-i386 is AMD64-only!) |
| 00:18.55 | tomman | So I dropped a "Depends" line on debian/control, rebuilt my packages, done. |
| 00:19.42 | tomman | If anyone is curious, the package was libopus0, which for some reason isn't multiarch-enabled yet, so I have to patch it |
| 00:20.07 | tomman | (bug 674467 seems to be stalled or so, since there are patches, but noone willing to integrate them) |
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| 00:21.41 | MrBIOS | themill: all I was doing was running apt-get -q -y install openjdk-6-jre-headless tzdata-java tzdata |
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| 00:25.00 | MrBIOS | whatever, I force-downgraded tzdata to the rev it wanted |
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| 00:29.21 | jordilopezamat | hello #debian community |
| 00:29.27 | jordilopezamat | rookie here... |
| 00:30.06 | jordilopezamat | i'm installing a GNU Mediagoblin instance... for testing&playing in my laptop |
| 00:31.16 | jordilopezamat | in the process, i'm asked to 'adduser --system mediagoblin' ... should it create the correspondant 'mediagoblin' group ? (becacause i cannot see it!) |
| 00:31.22 | themill | dpkg: tell MrBIOS about bat |
| 00:31.26 | jordilopezamat | thanks beforehand for your attention |
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| 00:34.22 | MrMonkey31 | hallo #debian |
| 00:34.42 | jordilopezamat | hello MrMonkey31 |
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| 00:36.58 | Freeder | Hi folks, I'm looking at an example inittab line of code: zz:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/sudo -u user1 /path/to/my_daemon . the file my_daemon ... that is the file I always want running, right? Or does that need to be code to check if a file is running? |
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| 00:40.25 | MrMonkey31 | is anybody here a professional programmer? =) |
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| 00:48.10 | zophy | hi |
| 00:49.29 | MrMonkey31 | grins |
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| 00:50.40 | Freeder | Hi folks, I'm looking at an example inittab line of code: zz:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/sudo -u user1 /path/to/my_daemon . the file my_daemon ... that is the file I always want running, right? Or does that need to be code to check if a file is running? |
| 00:51.36 | sp00ky | I'm trying to install a package from a repository that I added, but I receive this message when I try to apt-get install "Depends: libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1) but it is not installable" |
| 00:52.22 | zophy | hmmm.. what to do.. |
| 00:52.26 | sp00ky | does that mean that libssl0.9.8 is the version I currently I have installed and I need a version greater than 0.9.8m-1? |
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| 00:52.48 | sp00ky | well, greater than or equal to... |
| 00:54.49 | Sketch2 | I appreciate what you Debian devs have been doing, but I'd like to mention that the repository in testing isn't correct. |
| 00:56.21 | Sketch2 | I was trying to install it and came to the conclusion that it's been renamed, so you can't access mirrors during install. |
| 00:56.35 | themill | sp00ky: don't try to install packages that aren't designed for your release. |
| 00:57.05 | themill | Sketch2: that's pretty vague... and in any case, you'll have much more success installing wheezy and then upgrading to jessie |
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| 00:58.18 | zophy | sp00ky, this might be a work around for you --> http://andrewelkins.com/linux/depends-libssl0-9-8-0-9-8m-1-but-it-is-not-installable/ |
| 00:59.16 | Sketch2 | Vague? I downloaded the 64 bit iso and it was looking for someting like jessie-mirror when the directory is just jessie |
| 01:00.07 | themill | that still doesn't help me know what you actually did... |
| 01:00.14 | zophy | should i fear upgrading to jessie ? |
| 01:00.19 | Sketch2 | I have 32 bit Wheezy, but I wanted to try 64 bit Jessie. Oh, it was the XFCE version |
| 01:00.39 | zophy | how old is jessie ? |
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| 01:00.50 | themill | zophy: it hasn't been released.... |
| 01:00.55 | themill | Sketch2: precisely which image did you use? |
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| 01:01.05 | zophy | yeah, testing, i know |
| 01:01.15 | Sketch2 | All I did was install from the lastest CD image |
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| 01:02.39 | Sketch2 | It wouldn't let me select a mirror, and I found out later it was because the directory it was looking for doesn't exist on the servers |
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| 01:03.18 | themill | Sketch2: "latest CD image" couldn't be less helpful. Precisely which image did you use? |
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| 01:05.12 | Freeder | I'm looking at an example inittab line of code: zz:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/sudo -u user1 /path/to/my_daemon . the file my_daemon ... that is the file I always want running, right? Or does that need to be code to check if a file is running? |
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| 01:06.54 | Sketch2 | Ok, gimme a minute to find it. I'm typing on a tablet, because the PC's still installing. |
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| 01:09.07 | amnay | Hello, I'm using Debian Wheezy and some fonts look really awful compared to ubuntu (Monaco, Inconsolata, Freemono..) How can I fix this? |
| 01:09.48 | amnay | Whereas the classic Dejavu sans mono renders perfectly |
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| 01:13.57 | sp00ky | zophy, thank you for that link! |
| 01:15.08 | Sketch2 | Well, it was debian-testing-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso I'm trying to find the website I downloaded it from |
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| 01:15.34 | Sketch2 | It was a weekly build, and I got it last night |
| 01:16.46 | sary | have you md5sum checked the image! |
| 01:18.39 | Sketch2 | Oh, here it is. - http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 01:19.42 | Sketch2 | The filesize was identical, I didn't try md5, but I can now. One sec. |
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| 01:26.20 | Mykathendu | commands |
| 01:27.21 | trem0r | commands |
| 01:27.37 | Mykathendu | :V |
| 01:27.48 | trem0r | no commands!?!?! |
| 01:27.49 | trem0r | fok |
| 01:28.12 | Sketch2 | Was rebooting. Seems to be loading ok so far |
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| 01:29.46 | sary | Great!, if you get an error from the current mirror in your sources.list you can always change that. |
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| 01:31.06 | sary | 1st things i do after booting to a new debian box is # apt-get update && apt-get upgrade . |
| 01:31.41 | themill | that shouldn't be necessary |
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| 01:36.32 | KittyCat | I'm looking to install debian. but it's looking like I might need to do it in a rather unorthodox way, and I'm wondering what would be the easiest way to do it |
| 01:36.39 | Sketch2 | I dunno if it's booting, or just chilling. |
| 01:37.58 | Sketch2 | Kitty, get Gparted and make a small space for it to reside on |
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| 01:38.10 | KittyCat | I only have one hard drive on my system. there's about 13GB free |
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| 01:38.47 | poorrick | anyone experienced with multisystem? |
| 01:38.54 | Sketch2 | Then use Unetbootin to burn the CD to a USB chip |
| 01:39.34 | Sketch2 | Yeah, you'll wanna clear up more space than that |
| 01:40.34 | Sketch2 | Say 30 gig perhaps |
| 01:41.21 | KittyCat | what I was thinking I could do is move my current root (everything) to a backup directory. basically clearing the root of everything except the backup directory. install debian onto the clean root, leaving the backup directory alone, then after I have a booting system, copy things back over that I want to keep and delete the backup directory |
| 01:41.46 | KittyCat | according to the install guid, I should only need 5GB for an install |
| 01:41.52 | KittyCat | *guide |
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| 01:44.10 | Sketch2 | Maybe if you go with XFCE as your display manager and DON'T install much else |
| 01:44.14 | KittyCat | the only other option I really have is to comb through everything on my drive, and burn a bunch of CDs (and hope none of them fail) |
| 01:44.18 | Sketch2 | Sorry caps |
| 01:44.49 | Sketch2 | On a tablet. Cant see what im typing on this thing |
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| 01:45.56 | KittyCat | hmm |
| 01:46.11 | sary | KittyCat: just make sure you md5sum check the iso image first, make sure you burn the CD with w low speed 2x,or 4. |
| 01:47.45 | KittyCat | I can clear up more space on my drive. though the point is that I don't really have a viable place to back up my current drive, and I don't want to lose anything by switching to debian (currently on gentoo) |
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| 01:49.29 | Tylertwo | KittyCat, I'd imagine 13Gb would be enough space |
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| 01:50.08 | sary | you could wait till you have a backup storge in hand or use a free cloud storge like copy.com the offers 10GB . |
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| 01:50.41 | Sketch2 | Well you should be able to mount the HD you have in there, so you can use your documents in Deb |
| 01:51.18 | KittyCat | would the basic idea work, though? move everything in my current root into a backup directory, and install debian on the same partition without losing that directory? |
| 01:53.12 | Freeder | KittyCat: no |
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| 01:54.29 | Freeder | you could create a partition that you could back up your files to, and install debian to the "root" partition, then move them back |
| 01:54.46 | Freeder | but i'd be verrrry careful doing that... easy to lose everything by hitting the wrong option |
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| 01:55.34 | KittyCat | yeah, I'm a bit hesitant to try partition resizing |
| 01:56.06 | KittyCat | not sure it'd work on ext3 anyway |
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| 01:59.54 | Sketch2 | Ok, so sorry 'bout the wait on the question. Display was acting up and I accidentally overwrote Grub |
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| 02:00.47 | MrMonkey31 | RIP, Grub |
| 02:00.52 | Sketch2 | So I have to manually type in grub commands. Thats fun. Anyway, yeah, md5 checks out. Its a proper copy |
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| 02:03.10 | Sketch2 | I'll get this thing running. Again, thanks for Debian. Hope you can find that mirror error I mentioned |
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| 02:07.21 | prompt32 | i have an error from from /etc/init.d/pulseaudio, strange |
| 02:08.10 | prompt32 | it's make its files in / , and not in /var/run/pulse, as it must be from its script ... |
| 02:08.36 | prompt32 | any one knows about this ? |
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| 02:13.34 | Hundred | are debian commands exactly the same as ubuntu commands? |
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| 02:15.05 | finchd | Hundred: the installers are *very* different. the package manager is the same for both: apt-get/aptitude. What software are you trying to use? |
| 02:15.43 | Hundred | nothing, i was just wondering because i might switch to debian |
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| 02:17.11 | sary | Hundred: Ubuntu is based on Debian to be exact. |
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| 02:19.36 | smw | Hundred, the two are very similar. I was a rpm person until I switched to ubuntu and from ubuntu, debian |
| 02:19.58 | smw | Hundred, most things are the same, but they are by no means 100% |
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| 02:43.02 | Freeder | (running test.sh by itself works fine) |
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| 02:47.26 | Freeder | Hi, I added an inittab entry: bp:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/sudo -u /my/shell/script.sh . script.sh holds 'exec python file.py --arg1 --arg2' ... running telinit q (or rebooting) doesn't seem to load that file.py . Running test.sh by itself functions as expected. Any thoughts as to where I went wrong? |
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| 03:01.12 | johnfg | Any problem with this: http://dpaste.com/1412749/? This is what hplip, the most recent version, says I need to install before installing the hplip tarball. |
| 03:02.08 | johnfg | I know back in squeeze, finagling the installation of hplip, probably from backports, or some other adaptation caused me a huge amount of grief. |
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| 03:03.31 | themill | johnfg: I assume that you've already verified that wheezy's version of hplip doesn't work for youhere |
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| 03:05.20 | johnfg | correct that it doesn't work properly. wheezy is at 3.12.6-3.1, on the hplipopensource site it's at 3.13.9. |
| 03:05.41 | johnfg | As that page is directions for installing it, I thought it might be worth a go. |
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| 03:06.32 | johnfg | I meant to say, as http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/distros/debian.html has instructions for wheezy, I thought it might be worth a try. |
| 03:06.44 | themill | most of the packages in that list won't be needed for running, only for compiling it. My preference is normally to build in a disposable chroot to make cleaning up afterwards easier |
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| 03:07.22 | johnfg | themill: I've never done chroot on debian, but have done it on gentoo. |
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| 03:07.29 | johnfg | What steps would I take? |
| 03:07.32 | themill | !debootstrap |
| 03:07.32 | dpkg | debootstrap can create a basic Debian system from scratch, without apt/dpkg. Useful for installing in a <chroot>. It is key to installing Debian GNU/Linux from a Unix/Linux system, ask me about <install guide>. http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap |
| 03:08.01 | themill | but if you're not doing this regularly, it's probably overkill |
| 03:08.27 | themill | You could also consider backporting pyppd and hplip from sid (which has that version already in a nice debian package) |
| 03:09.10 | johnfg | themill: Huh, I looked in backports, but maybe I didn't catch it. That sounds better to me. |
| 03:09.27 | themill | you'd be making your own backport |
| 03:09.31 | themill | !ssb |
| 03:09.31 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 03:10.02 | themill | (you need to backport and install pyppd before you can backport hplip) |
| 03:10.31 | johnfg | themill: Ah, that's what you said: You could also consider backporting ... that's what messed up squeeze for me. |
| 03:10.43 | johnfg | Had to do with conflicts with gnome. |
| 03:12.01 | themill | there shouldn't be any such conflicts here |
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| 03:13.55 | johnfg | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid Is this all I'd need for the line in sources.list? |
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| 03:15.09 | themill | yes |
| 03:15.51 | themill | (and yes, I'd do this in a chroot, but then again, I already have them set up for this) |
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| 03:17.30 | johnfg | So you'd even do it via aptitude in a chroot environment? |
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| 03:22.15 | johnfg | themill: Ah, I forgot to add main after sid. Gave an error. |
| 03:23.47 | themill | ah yes |
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| 03:24.22 | themill | the chroot created by debootstrap has dpkg/apt etc inside it so you follow those instructions after entering the chroot |
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| 03:24.53 | johnfg | themill: Does it matter that the aptitude build-dep pyppd is getting it's files from wheezy/main? |
| 03:25.20 | themill | it should be -- that's what we want it to do |
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| 03:25.33 | johnfg | !deb-src sid |
| 03:25.34 | dpkg | You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free". Remember to "apt-get update" after changing your sources.list. |
| 03:27.17 | johnfg | themill: that's done. Do I need to tell aptitude to get hplip from sid though? |
| 03:28.39 | themill | the "apt-get source" step will fetch the most recent source package it can find |
| 03:29.17 | johnfg | themill: good, i'm doing that now. |
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| 03:31.22 | Freeder | Hi, I added an inittab entry: bp:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/sudo -u /my/shell/script.sh . script.sh holds 'exec python file.py --arg1 --arg2' ... running telinit q (or rebooting) doesn't seem to load that file.py . Running test.sh by itself functions as expected. Any thoughts as to where I went wrong? |
| 03:31.41 | johnfg | http://dpaste.com/1412768/ here's the errors in the apt-get source hplip stage... |
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| 03:33.38 | themill | johnfg: did you apt-get build-dep hplip? |
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| 03:38.19 | johnfg | themill: oops |
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| 03:40.16 | johnfg | Ok to just do the aptitude build-dep hplip, or do I need to undo the apt-get? |
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| 03:44.43 | johnfg | themill: Actually, do I need to do the same source deal with pyppd? |
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| 03:46.36 | johnfg | themill: Then I need to first install pyppd_1.0.1-1_all.deb, right? |
| 03:46.40 | themill | yes |
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| 03:46.58 | themill | you need to backport pyppd first, install it, then backport hplip |
| 03:47.24 | johnfg | themill: Thanks for repeating. You said it at first, I missed it. |
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| 03:52.09 | johnfg | Amazing how well things work when you follow instructions. |
| 03:52.21 | johnfg | .deb being made now. |
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| 03:57.43 | DJRWolf | For the Intel Xeon CPU's, do you just need the normal 32/64 bit install? Or a different one like "ia64"? |
| 03:58.53 | Devastator | DJRWolf that's for itanium only, afaik |
| 04:00.34 | mumpitzel | normal amd64 |
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| 04:05.28 | johnfg | Huh, I can't tell yet if the cmd is hung up, or just taking a while longer than I thought. |
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| 04:08.16 | johnfg | Should finish and leave me at the cmd prompt, right? |
| 04:08.51 | DJRWolf | it is an old Xeon rackmount, could be 32-bit, not sure yet, will have to take a closer look |
| 04:09.24 | zophy | anyone know if i can use an ascii string as the key/enc argument ? |
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| 04:09.43 | zophy | s: doesn't work for me |
| 04:10.02 | zophy | enc "string" doesn't work |
| 04:10.21 | zophy | i'm talking about the iwconfig command |
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| 04:10.43 | zophy | /sbin/iwconfig key ... |
| 04:11.06 | johnfg | Not sure why some of this, but here's where it's at http://dpaste.com/1412795/ |
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| 04:11.34 | johnfg | Just keep letting it do whatever it's doing? |
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| 04:13.20 | johnfg | As I look at that last section, after the warnings, all it's doing is some perl substitutions, right |
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| 04:17.37 | johnfg | themill: Hung up at that same spot again. Any idea what's going on? |
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| 04:21.03 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: it's possible that it'll hang there if there isn't a file in that location... but you'd have to check ps axfu; or similar to see exactly what the perl script was doing |
| 04:21.16 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: an easy check is to hit ctrl-d |
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| 04:24.58 | spronk | hi guys - i'm running deb 7.0, trying to get freetds working with tdsodbc, but i don't seem to be getting a libtdsodbc.so file installed anywhere... any ideas? |
| 04:26.19 | mumpitzel | spronk: http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libtdsodbc.so&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 04:26.34 | mumpitzel | looks easy to get to me. /msg dpkg search in the future |
| 04:26.44 | johnfg | dondelelcaro: I did to stop it, but how do I fix the problem? |
| 04:27.02 | spronk | aha |
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| 04:27.12 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: did you see in the ps output precisely what command it was running? |
| 04:27.14 | spronk | thanks mumpitzel |
| 04:27.19 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: is this a package you're packaging? or one in Debian? |
| 04:27.50 | johnfg | dondelelcaro: It's one I'm packaging, viz., hplip. themill was helping. |
| 04:28.02 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: ah, awesome |
| 04:28.21 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: ok, that bit of perl looks a bit janky, and I can help you too |
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| 04:29.46 | johnfg | dondelelcaro: Great! Here's the output of the ps axfu|grep perl, http://dpaste.com/1412808/ |
| 04:29.48 | tkl22 | Hi there! |
| 04:30.10 | tkl22 | What can i do if cp freezes the wohle system while copying files from a rescue image? |
| 04:30.16 | johnfg | So, do the Ctrl-D to stop it? |
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| 04:30.35 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: right, so what's happening is that one of the files doesn't point at a target I believe |
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| 04:31.43 | gnarface | tkl22: wait longer? |
| 04:31.56 | tkl22 | But it crashes the whole system |
| 04:32.07 | tkl22 | It´s an image i have created with ddrescue |
| 04:32.13 | gnarface | oh that's bad |
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| 04:32.18 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: so you want instead something like this: find ./debian/tmp/usr/bin/ ./debian/tmp/usr/sbin/ ./debian/tmp/usr/lib/cups/ -type f -print0|xargs -0 readlink -f |xargs -r perl -pi -e 's:^\s*\#\!/usr/bin/env\s+python.*:#!/usr/bin/python:' |
| 04:32.25 | johnfg | Well, the ctrl-d I guess just stopped the perl code, but the rest is stil going on. |
| 04:32.30 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: right |
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| 04:32.53 | dondelelcaro | the reason why it stopped the perl code is because when you don't put a filename on the command line, perl reads stdin and blocks waiting for EOF |
| 04:32.55 | tkl22 | gnarface: Right and i don´t know how i should fix this now. I have no possibility to check the file with chkdsk |
| 04:33.35 | gnarface | tkl22: the symptoms suggest hardware failure |
| 04:33.38 | johnfg | dondelelcaro: So once the rest finishes (should I let it go?), execute what you typed? |
| 04:33.53 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: nah, replace the current code with something along the lines of what I typed |
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| 04:34.18 | johnfg | dondelelcaro: But let finish what is running? |
| 04:34.37 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: it shouldn't matter. |
| 04:34.50 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: just a second though; isn't hplip already packaged? |
| 04:35.05 | dondelelcaro | has probably misunderstood something here |
| 04:35.08 | tkl22 | gnarface: But the file was copied correctly and it´s now on a seperate hdd |
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| 04:35.24 | gnarface | tkl22: i thought you said it crashed / |
| 04:35.36 | johnfg | An older version for wheezy. The current version is in sid. |
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| 04:36.00 | johnfg | And hplip on wheezy didn't run correctly. |
| 04:36.01 | tkl22 | the System right |
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| 04:36.20 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: ah, ok; so you're backporting the package of hplip in sid to wheezy, right? |
| 04:36.36 | johnfg | It looks like I got a .deb produced. dondelelcaro: yes, that's right. |
| 04:36.51 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: ah, ok; and you just ran fakeroot debian/rules clean binary; or similar |
| 04:37.15 | johnfg | dondelelcaro: ya. Would you like to see what cmds I ran? |
| 04:38.29 | gnarface | tkl22: if it crashed during the copy then you should probably verify you actually got the *whole* file copied correctly, and not corrupted. if it crashed after the copy then its probably unrelated. |
| 04:38.35 | johnfg | dondelelcaro: I have: hplip_3.13.9-1_i386.deb (plus a bunch of other debs. Will installing that .deb pull in those others or something? |
| 04:39.59 | tkl22 | gnarface: ddrescue showed up some errors during rescue |
| 04:40.10 | tkl22 | but that´s what this program is for |
| 04:40.12 | johnfg | dondelelcaro: Should I go ahead and try installing hplip_3.13.9-1_i386.deb? |
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| 04:41.17 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: yeah, you should be able to do that without a problem |
| 04:41.45 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: you might get a message saying that it depends on other hplip debs; you can install those with dpkg -i too |
| 04:41.53 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: if necesssary you can also later run apt-get -f install; |
| 04:42.15 | johnfg | Ok to just use gdebi pkg installer? |
| 04:42.32 | johnfg | or use dpkg -i hplip_3.13.9-1_i386.deb? |
| 04:42.50 | dondelelcaro | I'd just use dpkg, but use whatever works for you |
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| 04:44.40 | johnfg | dondelelcaro: Is there a way to take care of all of this in one swoop? http://dpaste.com/1412812/ |
| 04:46.02 | themill | egads,... that's one very interesting lump of perl |
| 04:46.41 | themill | also, that's something that dh_python2 should be doing for them, I'd have thought |
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| 04:48.01 | dondelelcaro | themill: yeah; it's certainly ugly |
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| 04:48.25 | johnfg | themill: dondelelcaro: So, is there a one-step method to getting all of that installed? Or just dpkg -i each file it says is needed? |
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| 04:48.41 | dondelelcaro | johnfg: you can dpkg -i them all on the same command line |
| 04:49.32 | johnfg | And do hplip_3.13.9-1_i386.deb last? |
| 04:49.57 | themill | johnfg: the list of packages from that source package that you already have installed might be good -- you probably don't want *all* of the binary packages it makes. aptitude search '?source-package(hplip)?installed' |
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| 04:50.18 | themill | although there's also no harm in installing some extra -doc packages. |
| 04:50.28 | optraz | hi, currently the file spreadsheet is started by gnumeric, how do i start using libreoffice? |
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| 04:52.12 | johnfg | None of the python pkgs are installed. I guess I should install them first? |
| 04:52.44 | themill | do you need them? |
| 04:53.12 | johnfg | python-imaging, python-pexpect, and python-reportlab. themill I don't, but apparently hplip does -) |
| 04:53.38 | themill | ah -- you can "apt-get -f install" after using dpkg -i on the things you've just built |
| 04:53.39 | johnfg | themill: Did you look at my last paste? |
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| 04:54.22 | themill | things like libhpmud0 you've just recompiled and you need to dpkg -i the new version; things like python-imaging you can let apt sort out |
| 04:54.46 | johnfg | themill: As dondelelcaro said. Ok will do. |
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| 05:00.53 | johnfg | Well, it's installed, and I ran the apt-get -f install, but it doesn't run properly. I wonder if I should do a reboot? |
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| 05:01.32 | johnfg | It's not finding the printer when the usb cable is plugged in, which the previous version did. |
| 05:02.00 | johnfg | (which you've got to do for it to configure it wirelessly) |
| 05:02.19 | abhisar | /etc/security/limits.conf file is responsible to limit resources of users/groups on a Linux server. How can i hack it (not necessary internally) so that it starts logging when the limits are hit |
| 05:02.36 | abhisar | Please need help in this .. |
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| 05:08.51 | johnfg | Ok, i think things are working, except...no hp-toolbox. I guess that's separate? |
| 05:11.25 | erm3nda | abhisar: limits had a couple of things. Interested on all? |
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| 05:12.38 | johnfg | So, where's hp-toolbox? |
| 05:12.43 | erm3nda | abhisar: by default you need a log to do somethin under linux :) |
| 05:12.51 | erm3nda | limits are store into syslog when you reach it |
| 05:13.14 | erm3nda | apply some grep or pipe for results :) and you're done |
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| 05:14.16 | erm3nda | for some other type of "monitoring" limits, you can install monit and configure it for syslog check and email to you. Also you can email to you with little script, but monit is a vry powerfull way |
| 05:15.11 | erm3nda | when you cant find a log, try search syslog, always :) |
| 05:15.12 | erm3nda | BB |
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| 05:18.34 | johnfg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:18.42 | johnfg | But it's already installed? |
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| 05:18.52 | johnfg | installed. |
| 05:19.38 | themill | johnfg: aptitude doesn't handle virtual build-dependencies very gracefully. Try apt-get build-dep |
| 05:20.13 | johnfg | for hplip-gui,right? |
| 05:20.14 | themill | johnfg: but in any case -- you've only just built that binary package |
| 05:22.01 | johnfg | themill: apt-get handled it, I'm doing the source now. |
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| 05:22.20 | themill | johnfg: wait. You don't need to recompile anything |
| 05:22.45 | themill | ,binaries hplip |
| 05:22.47 | judd | Source hplip in wheezy: Binaries: libhpmud-dev, hplip-gui, printer-driver-hpijs, printer-driver-postscript-hp, libsane-hpaio, hpijs-ppds, hplip-cups, hplip-data, hplip-doc, libhpmud0, printer-driver-hpcups, hpijs, hplip, hplip-dbg |
| 05:22.58 | themill | johnfg: ^^ you've already just recompiled hplip-gui |
| 05:24.06 | johnfg | I guess that was one that didn't get installed. |
| 05:24.21 | johnfg | so stop the source and install that, eh? |
| 05:25.01 | themill | yep, dpkg -i hplip-gui*deb |
| 05:25.53 | johnfg | themill: Should I install all the debs that were created? |
| 05:26.12 | elkingrey | I've just installed clamtk and decided to run a recursive scan. It appears to have found 32 threats in my .cache directory. It hasn't finished the scan yet, so I'm not sure what it will do. But any ideas on what this could mean? |
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| 05:27.19 | themill | johnfg: if you want them all |
| 05:27.24 | elvora | cl |
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| 05:30.34 | elvora | sorry, that was inadvertent. |
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| 05:42.00 | johnfg | Thanks so much for the help compadres. I really appreciate it! |
| 05:43.28 | themill | np |
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| 05:46.23 | somiaj | elkingrey: sounds like you are browsing webpages clamtk doens't like. (: |
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| 05:48.59 | elkingrey | somiaj: Can I simply delete my ~/.cache directory? What about my ~/.local directory? What is it there for? |
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| 05:50.13 | somiaj | elkingrey: yea directories in $HOME are more config files, cache files and user data so make sure you have nothing ther eyou want, but delteing won't effect the system |
| 05:50.19 | somiaj | elkingrey: I don't know what would be in ~/.local |
| 05:51.13 | themill | user-specific stuff that is otherwise in /usr/share (so .desktop files etc) |
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| 05:52.34 | elkingrey | All of the threats say status as PUA... stuff. One forum contributor says not to worry about PUA stuff, and to disable the "Enable Extra Scan Settings." Thoughts? |
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| 05:53.56 | somiaj | elkingrey: they are most likely links to supicious sites or flaged names that aren't really a threat to your computer |
| 05:54.14 | somiaj | elkingrey: did it say what PUA stood for? |
| 05:55.06 | elkingrey | somiaj: Potentially Unwanted Applications |
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| 05:56.28 | somiaj | well random internet advise form me is I wouldn't worry about it. Up to you if you want to turn of the feature that finds such things. |
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| 07:18.37 | prompt32 | /etc/init.d/pulseaudio, can not create dir /var/run/pulse, so it saves its file in / ? |
| 07:18.39 | prompt32 | ^ Any idea ? |
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| 07:20.59 | petern_ | pulseaudio is usually started by your desktop session, not a system daemon. |
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| 07:22.27 | prompt32 | petern_, I started as a script, |
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| 07:23.33 | prompt32 | because of this, but it didnt fix ? |
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| 07:24.23 | prompt32 | there is the the command in the start of script, mkdir -p /var/run/pulse, but NO |
| 07:25.25 | prompt32 | or maybe (because i make it, and after reboot, it was gone), something deletes it ! |
| 07:25.32 | prompt32 | ^ |
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| 07:29.31 | petern_ | Yeah, /var/run may be a tmpfs these days. |
| 07:29.42 | petern_ | Why do you want a /var/run/pulse though? |
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| 07:34.39 | kunn | How can I give all folders and files a certain permission? Tried chmod -Rf +w 775 www/ with no luck. |
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| 07:36.32 | bhuddah | kunn: just use -r/-R can't remember which case. that should work. |
| 07:37.01 | bhuddah | kunn: i think you're breaking it with using both +w and 775 |
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| 07:38.14 | kunn | I tried chmod -R 775 www/ aswell |
| 07:38.27 | kunn | only the folders get 775 |
| 07:38.29 | kunn | not the files |
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| 07:39.28 | bhuddah | kunn: normally, this works. maybe it's because of the slash after the foldername. |
| 07:39.30 | oomph | anyone know how to go about installing the Intel (i217LM / i210AT) on Wheezy? My install does not detect a network interface card. |
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| 07:54.30 | oo_miguel | is there some easy way to provide a web-base large file upload? |
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| 07:56.40 | oo_miguel | is there a packege that will provide me some kind of web-ftp ? |
| 07:58.15 | garson | oo_miguel, Web FTP? |
| 07:58.16 | garson | What? |
| 07:58.27 | garson | You mean like WebDAV? |
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| 07:58.33 | garson | Or you mean FTP in a browser? |
| 07:58.41 | garson | Or just uploading in general? |
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| 07:59.09 | gnarface | i would not use a web browser for that, not above 1GB sized files at least |
| 07:59.18 | oo_miguel | i need somebody to upload a large file to a server |
| 07:59.22 | oo_miguel | large = 400mb :) |
| 07:59.29 | oo_miguel | and he only has a webbrowser |
| 07:59.51 | oo_miguel | so i thought there is some package that will provide me some file-uploader |
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| 08:00.04 | gnarface | i don't know of one, but its a pretty simple task in perl or php |
| 08:00.06 | oo_miguel | web-ftp was an improper term, sorry |
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| 08:00.17 | oo_miguel | garson: will this not timeout easilly? |
| 08:00.26 | oo_miguel | i did forms like that in php, but for small files |
| 08:00.34 | oo_miguel | thought it times out after a few minutes |
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| 08:00.44 | oo_miguel | on the other hand i can surely set this timeout :) |
| 08:00.49 | garson | You could always get ajaxplorer, or webmin, and use it's file manager. |
| 08:01.00 | gnarface | oo_miguel: the default php config limits the max file size to like 2MB you need to adjust it |
| 08:01.05 | garson | ^ |
| 08:01.09 | garson | That's true. |
| 08:01.12 | oo_miguel | :) |
| 08:01.19 | oo_miguel | ok, ill try that solution |
| 08:01.20 | garson | Why can they not use SFTP? |
| 08:01.33 | oo_miguel | they have only port 80 open or something |
| 08:01.43 | oo_miguel | very restrictive company policy |
| 08:01.45 | gnarface | oo_miguel: msot browsers i've heard have a hard limit around 1GB or 2GB that you can't avoid easily though |
| 08:01.53 | oo_miguel | ok |
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| 08:02.02 | garson | Edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and add port 80? |
| 08:02.17 | gnarface | that would also work |
| 08:02.23 | gnarface | or might work at least |
| 08:02.32 | gnarface | and then you could just use scp which would be much easier |
| 08:02.40 | oo_miguel | and do i need to adjust apache so it does not timeout (i am aware this is out of scope of this channel ;) ) |
| 08:02.42 | garson | And you could download FileZilla portable. |
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| 08:03.08 | oo_miguel | garson: gnarface: they can not install any software and there is no scp on their machines |
| 08:03.31 | oo_miguel | they have only a browser and port 80 open, this is given, and can not be changed :) |
| 08:03.34 | garson | That's why I said portable. |
| 08:04.05 | oo_miguel | garson: oh sorry, i missed that.. |
| 08:04.18 | garson | portableapps.com |
| 08:04.21 | oo_miguel | i will try the php form first |
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| 08:04.37 | oo_miguel | thanks for the suggestions! |
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| 08:05.33 | garson | Go for it, cheers. |
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| 08:18.09 | zeev234 | Hi, I would like to block the ability of users to mount all kind of media like CD-ROMs, DVDs, external USB CD-ROMs, ZIPs, etc. How can I do this? |
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| 08:19.51 | gnarface | zeev234: i think you just add them to the "cdrom" group |
| 08:20.21 | zeev234 | gnarface: I want to block the ability |
| 08:21.00 | gnarface | oh |
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| 08:21.28 | gnarface | zeev234: by default i don't think they can unless you're running some sort of auto-mounter in the window manager |
| 08:21.42 | gnarface | i guess its possible you are |
| 08:21.43 | zeev234 | gnarface: gnome |
| 08:21.46 | gnarface | yea sounds likely |
| 08:21.58 | gnarface | i'm sorry i don't know how to stop gnome from being able to do that but maybe ask in #gnome ? |
| 08:22.02 | zeev234 | it has it by default, right? |
| 08:22.07 | gnarface | probably |
| 08:22.12 | gnarface | i havent used gnome in years |
| 08:22.16 | zeev234 | ok |
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| 08:25.37 | SPF | gnome-mount most probably |
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| 08:35.21 | zeev234 | thank you! |
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| 08:53.23 | tkl2 | Hi |
| 08:54.01 | tkl2 | Is tehre a filehoster where i can share a 50MB PDF with others without any bloatware, AD´s and so on??? |
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| 08:55.12 | ksk | tkl2: that sounds like offtopic. |
| 08:55.25 | tkl2 | ksk: right |
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| 08:56.47 | tkl2 | ksk: but still a hard question.. |
| 08:57.18 | ksk | go to debian-offtopic or what the channels name was.. |
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| 09:13.33 | mediat0r | Hi guys. I appended /opt/path/script to my $PATH variable using "export PATH=$PATH:/opt/path/script". Unfortunately this didn't work as planned and I am now confused for a few reasons. 1) My understanding is this $PATH modification is permanent though it doesn't make sense to me? [I though $PATH was defined by files like ~/.bashrc and similar] 2) Why are cat and echo giving me different outputs? [http://pastebin.com/65S2txej] 3) Should I |
| 09:13.33 | mediat0r | actually use $PATH to point to scripts? 4) How do I undo what I did given the strange outputs? [I understand there is plenty of literature on this topic on the web, I've just found it quite overwhelming and confusing.] THANKS! |
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| 09:15.26 | ksk | mediat0r: ... |
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| 09:15.52 | ksk | you know what cat is? cat will take the arguments in $path (which are paths) as its arguments and wants to display its contents |
| 09:15.55 | ksk | (which does not work) |
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| 09:16.20 | ksk | export $PATH will setup path for your actual shell and every shell/programme you invoke from that shell |
| 09:16.27 | ksk | if you close that shell, the path is lost |
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| 09:16.38 | ksk | if you want to have it all the time add it into ~/.bashrc or similar |
| 09:16.52 | mediat0r | ksk: okay, that makes more sense. |
| 09:17.08 | ksk | and yes, if you have custom directories where scripts are stored you add them to $PATH |
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| 09:18.47 | connectel | I am using a debian desktop as a server, how bad is this? |
| 09:19.08 | ksk | "desktop" and "server" are just a bunch of pre-selected packages |
| 09:19.09 | mediat0r | ksk: so would I need to point to the individual script or does $PATH just recursively include everything with execute permissions? |
| 09:19.18 | connectel | ksk: no worries then |
| 09:19.28 | buu | mediat0r: It includes everything in the directory.. |
| 09:19.31 | buu | Not recursive |
| 09:19.45 | mediat0r | buu: thanks! |
| 09:19.55 | ksk | mediat0r: path makes your shell check for executable files for "what you typed" in every directory in $PATH |
| 09:20.15 | ksk | mediat0r: you should google that, or read man bash about it or something :P |
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| 09:21.03 | buu | man bash is quite enlightening |
| 09:21.11 | buu | And its really pretty short! |
| 09:21.11 | mediat0r | ksk: yeah I did do a fair bit of googling before I asked, just confused :S Thanks for answering my questions really helpful :D |
| 09:21.29 | mediat0r | buu: cool I'll check that out first |
| 09:21.36 | ksk | connectel: if you run a server however you should check to have only "sane" packages installed, or lets say if its a server - have nothing installed you dont need |
| 09:21.36 | buu | Woah, there's a CDPATH variable |
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| 09:22.13 | linedash | learning shell scripting is a key element to understanding linux |
| 09:22.26 | linedash | without it, how can you debug init scripts, perform complex actions, etc |
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| 09:23.25 | connectel | ksk: sounds like a major job. |
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| 09:24.19 | linedash | using a desktop environment in a server is generally speaking, a bad idea as you're introducing lots of extra attack surface |
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| 09:24.33 | linedash | i.e; additional packages/services that may be vulnerable to some kind of attack |
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| 09:29.40 | connectel | so linedash, ksk. I dont even know where to start remvoing these unwanted packages. |
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| 09:29.49 | connectel | Where do I start? |
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| 09:30.01 | connectel | Abstract question indeed. |
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| 09:30.17 | connectel | it's not like I can do --purge remove * |
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| 09:49.23 | martin-_- | where does debian saves from the window manager of gnome 3 the current session log? |
| 09:49.48 | martin-_- | normaly gnome puts them into $HOME/.cache/gdm/session.log |
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| 09:55.08 | halt | Hi all, I planing to move my e-mailing to my current debian server, and wondering about, is the any package, which have everything bundled together, from MTA to IMAP connector, and filters etc, I know this is a complex task but I hope someone else already did something like this before me. |
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| 10:00.09 | Lope | I've successfully installed jwm. But when I start it up I just get a black screen. How can I get back to the terminal and start an application? |
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| 10:10.02 | maxyz | martin-_-: Not idea about gnome 3, but its not in .xsession-errors? |
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| 10:12.24 | maxyz | halt: Mmh, there are some complete suites, but I wouldn't recommend them. It's a better system when the parts are repleaceable... |
| 10:12.34 | martin-_- | xession-errors isn't for x.org? |
| 10:13.21 | maxyz | martin-_-: I think it's the stderr of the X clients |
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| 10:14.31 | halt | maxyz: I agree, but i could be a bit timesaving if you use something ready, something what's works out of the box |
| 10:16.51 | maxyz | halt: Most packages do that, you might have an exim4 already configured, install dovecot and you have a imap running, spamassassin, amavis or dspam require more effort, though |
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| 10:17.47 | halt | maxyz: ifound one pacakge which does not mainained anymore on debian but that's looks good at least for me, it's called dbmail |
| 10:17.56 | kummla | I have a folder which I think I tried to mount as drive from a FTP. It went straight to hell, now my terminal hangs if I try to do any interaction with the folder. ls -l hangs, cd, rm. How do I kill it? |
| 10:18.32 | halt | which still does not cover the MTA part but the rest is covered |
| 10:18.49 | maxyz | nopf: It shouldn't be necessary to change the drives names if you are using them by UUID (the debian installer does it for you) |
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| 10:19.46 | maxyz | fusermount -u probably |
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| 10:19.50 | maxyz | kummla: ^ |
| 10:20.16 | nopf | maxyz: thanks for the info. i did hope so. we'll see :) |
| 10:20.36 | kummla | It says failed because the Device or resource is busy |
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| 10:22.47 | maxyz | kummla: Yeah, you could ignore it, reboot, or try to umount -l (It may kill a kiten, panic your kernel, etc) |
| 10:23.13 | pederindi | debian7 + emacs + org-mode: I can't make beamer export, I have installed latex-beamer package, but I can't see that options: http://orgmode.org/manual/Beamer-export.html anyone with the same problem? (i use emacs-snapshot from emacs.naquadah.org , also I tried with emacs23 built-in stable repo) |
| 10:23.52 | kummla | maxyz: panic my kernel? |
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| 10:25.27 | kummla | umount -l did it |
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| 10:32.37 | ahmadhesni | hi, i have a problem whit install Download network-manager-sstp.tar.gz , ./configure = Ok make = make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. |
| 10:33.24 | jargon | ahmadhesni: why are u trying 2 install from source? |
| 10:33.29 | jargon | why not use apt? |
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| 10:34.04 | ahmadhesni | jargon: i cant find in synaptic ! |
| 10:34.16 | jargon | ahmadhesni: network manager? |
| 10:34.44 | ahmadhesni | jargon: network-manager-sstp |
| 10:35.30 | jargon | ahmadhesni: try running this command in your terminal: apt-cache search network-manager-* |
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| 10:36.57 | jargon | ahmadhesni: what does this package do? |
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| 10:37.56 | ahmadhesni | jargon: no, just pptp, openvpn and .. |
| 10:38.00 | ahmadhesni | jargon: Secure Socket Tunneling Protocol ... |
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| 10:39.39 | jargon | ahmadhesni: doesn't look like it's officially supported by debian |
| 10:39.47 | jargon | ahmadhesni: what does the README file say? |
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| 10:39.52 | ahmadhesni | jargon: like pptp and l2tp |
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| 10:40.37 | ahmadhesni | jargon: (install file) ./configure & make & make Install :| |
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| 10:41.26 | ahmadhesni | jargon: http://sstp-client.sourceforge.net/ |
| 10:41.50 | jargon | ahmadhesni: i think that's supposed to be: ./configure && make && make install |
| 10:42.05 | jargon | try &&, not & |
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| 10:42.27 | pederindi | anyone here is using emacs org-mode ?? |
| 10:42.37 | ahmadhesni | jargon: yes , i used && |
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| 10:43.43 | jargon | ahmadhesni: do u have the development headers like they're listed? |
| 10:43.56 | jargon | ahmadhesni: sudo apt-get install ppp-dev |
| 10:43.57 | jargon | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.57 | jargon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:44.05 | ahmadhesni | jargon: yes |
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| 10:46.40 | jargon | ahmadhesni: try running them one by one |
| 10:46.44 | jargon | not chained |
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| 10:47.29 | maxyz | ahmadhesni: the page also says that you need to pass the network-manager libexecdir. http://sourceforge.net/projects/sstp-client/files/network-manager-sstp/ |
| 10:48.17 | jargon | ^ |
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| 10:48.54 | maxyz | ahmadhesni: If possible, check that page, and if its still failing paste the output of the configure call in paste.debian.net |
| 10:49.26 | ahmadhesni | jargon: Ok, |
| 10:49.47 | jargon | ahmadhesni: also check what maxyz said too |
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| 10:51.16 | ahmadhesni | maxyz: ty, check it |
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| 10:55.17 | beluah | in debian lxde how do you do AUTOLOGIN? i mean that when you turn on the computer it loads directly the user without asking for password |
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| 10:56.03 | nikiforo | I thinks thats a really bad idea. You insecure you system. |
| 10:56.56 | beluah | i think so too, and i didnt do it on my machine, but this is not my machine and the person wants me to do it for her |
| 10:57.34 | maxyz | beluah: It should be an option of the display manager you are using, or you could use nodm |
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| 10:58.10 | beluah | where is the option? |
| 10:58.14 | beluah | dont find it |
| 10:59.03 | mrueg | Hello, is there a possibility to set the ip in /etc/network/interfaces based on the MAC address of the hw device? (I use a image template for multiple stations) |
| 10:59.22 | Sevet | beluah: it's done by the display manager, not the display environment |
| 10:59.45 | Sevet | cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
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| 11:00.04 | Sevet | haven't tried it, but see if these instructions are appropriate https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Boot_Install_Login#How_to_enable_automatic_logon |
| 11:00.19 | beluah | lightdm |
| 11:00.40 | beluah | but dont see the options... |
| 11:00.53 | Sevet | try adding the autologin-user and autologin-user-timeout options to /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf |
| 11:00.58 | Sevet | if they don't exist there yet add them |
| 11:01.28 | BitPuffin | Hey! |
| 11:01.38 | BitPuffin | Will fglrx-legacy work on jessie? |
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| 11:01.56 | beluah | ok thank you |
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| 11:03.32 | maxyz | ,versions fglrx-legacy-driver |
| 11:03.33 | judd | Package: fglrx-legacy-driver on i386 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 8.97.100.7-3~bpo70+1; sid/non-free: 8.97.100.7-4 |
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| 11:04.19 | maxyz | BitPuffin: It's not available in testing |
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| 11:07.27 | BitPuffin | maxyz: Is there a packports repo for testing? |
| 11:07.38 | BitPuffin | maxyz: because it was in backports on wheezy |
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| 11:21.44 | mamtina | hi all ! |
| 11:23.22 | mamtina | I want to install my wifiDriver and I don_t know his name >_< |
| 11:23.23 | mamtina | can someone help me ? |
| 11:23.30 | mamtina | http://paste.debian.net/55963/ |
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| 11:24.37 | fixi | he |
| 11:24.40 | fixi | *hey |
| 11:25.05 | fixi | ive disabled my internal sd card reader by mistake |
| 11:25.25 | fran__ | mamtina, https://wiki.debian.org/wl |
| 11:25.27 | fixi | now im getting proprietary ricoh mmc controller disabled via cardbus function |
| 11:25.32 | BitPuffin | Now I don't know if I should switch do debian or not haha |
| 11:25.40 | BitPuffin | Need to be able to use the proprietary driver |
| 11:25.42 | BitPuffin | :P |
| 11:25.46 | Coweater | !tell mamtina -about bcm4321 |
| 11:25.47 | Brigo | mamtina: https://wiki.debian.org/wl |
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| 11:26.14 | fixi | do u have any ideas how could i reenable it? |
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| 11:26.44 | mamtina | aaaah, ok, I_m going to try it, |
| 11:26.45 | mamtina | thanks all :) |
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| 11:30.45 | jeredepp | hello everyone, if in a terminal i got output like "[11/Oct/2013:13:25:33 /url/path?x=unique&x=unique&x=unique&x=y&x=y&a=b" and all i want is the DATE and the VALUE of parameter a, how would i proceed? |
| 11:31.03 | jeredepp | so far i have a very long command consisting of greps and seds and awks |
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| 11:32.29 | jeredepp | cat access.log | grep trackEvent | grep xy | grep xy | grep 11.Oct.2013 | grep -v 11.Oct.2013.11 | grep -v nan | cut -d ' ' -f 4,7 | here's something missing i guess | sed -e "s/a=//g" | sed '/^$/d' |
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| 11:32.50 | jeredepp | is this even possible without writing a script? |
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| 11:34.32 | BitPuffin | so does anyone here know much about how atiproprietary will be handled in jessie? I Am thinking I might switch to jessie and use it until it is EOL |
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| 11:38.28 | jumperswitch | hi |
| 11:38.32 | jumperswitch | So I opened a system file accidentally without using nano. Now I cannot write the changes. What can I do to acquire root and write the changes without leaving the editor / loosing the changes? |
| 11:38.43 | jumperswitch | Any nice tricks? |
| 11:39.05 | well_laid_lawn | no |
| 11:39.09 | koollman | jumperswitch: I would save it somewhere else |
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| 11:39.23 | ompaul | jumperswitch: what system file and did you do it as root? |
| 11:39.48 | ompaul | ah you didn't do it as root |
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| 11:39.55 | ompaul | you can save the file in your home directory |
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| 11:40.33 | ompaul | then if they are really what you want - copy them to the working location and restart the all or part of the system as needs be, be it a reload for some things or way more for others |
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| 11:45.20 | o1e | jeredepp: whats about: grep "whatyouneed" access.log|sed 's/^.//'|sed 's/ \/.*&a=/ /' |
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| 11:46.32 | jeredepp | o1e: answer from channel sed -> sed -n '/&a/ { s/^\[\([^[:space:]]*\).*&a=\([^&]*\).*/date: \1, value: \2/p; }' |
| 11:46.42 | jeredepp | sed is still a mystery to me |
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| 11:52.09 | Lope2 | I installed jwm, xinit and VMWare tools on stock debian 6 inside VMWare. When I startx I just get a black screen with a mouse cursor. if I go back to the terminal and try start winecfg.exe I get an error "Application tried to create a window, but no driver could be loaded. Make sure your X server is running and that $DISPLAY is set correctly." |
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| 11:54.48 | jiohdi | Lope2, what is your video driver? |
| 11:54.48 | jelly | Lope2: do you startx as a normal user? |
| 11:55.04 | unr3al011 | hello, i created a network bridge between 2 interfaces to share an internet connection. i used this tutorial: https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections. ifup br0 brings the interface up and it receives an ip via dhcp from the router. but i got no internet connection |
| 11:55.49 | Lope2 | jelly: yes I ran startx as a normal user |
| 11:55.53 | jelly | Lope2: open an xterm inside the newly created X session if it does not open by default, and start winecfg there |
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| 11:56.14 | Lope2 | jiohdi: I don't know what video driver I have. I just installed jwm. then I installed xinit. then I installed vmware tools. |
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| 11:56.44 | jiohdi | you probably need to install noueva? or whatever the current standard driver is |
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| 11:57.01 | jelly | Lope2: your console terminal is missing important environment variables needed to get X11 client apps connect to the X session |
| 11:57.17 | Lope2 | when I startx I just get a black screen and a mouse cursor that I can move. nothing at all to click on. If I press ctrl alt F# I can get to 2 different terminals. |
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| 11:57.35 | jelly | Lope2: how exactly did you install xorg? |
| 11:57.38 | jelly | !install x |
| 11:57.38 | Lope2 | jelly: ok, how can I get it setup |
| 11:57.38 | dpkg | To install X in Debian: "aptitude update && aptitude install xorg". You may also want to install a desktop environment - ask me about <install gnome>, <install kde>, <install xfce>, <install lxde> - or a window manager, ask me about <window manager>. To configure your X server, ask me about <xorg config>. |
| 11:58.05 | Lope2 | I just did a minimal netinstall of debain 6 (yes I know its old, I'm downloading a new one but I might as well practise right now) |
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| 11:58.10 | jelly | Lope2: I strongly suggest installing the "xorg" metapackage |
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| 11:58.30 | Lope2 | then I did apt-get install jwm; apt-get install xinit; (then vmware tools) |
| 11:58.48 | jiohdi | you have no engine under the hood laddy |
| 11:59.06 | Lope2 | oh, okay its downloading xorg now. |
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| 12:00.07 | Lope2 | haha thats funny. basically I found a guide for installing jwm. they just said run it with xinit. I didn't have that so I installed it. I figured it would make any xstuff dependencies and install them automatically with apt-get. |
| 12:00.10 | killown | how do I fix the issue where cups admin web interface can't add a new printer? I click in add new printer and it does nothing |
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| 12:02.00 | grandie | dpkg pastebin |
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| 12:02.01 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 12:02.40 | Lope2 | what is the best order to install these packages in? xorg xinit jwm ? |
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| 12:03.18 | babilen | Lope2: You don't have to install xinit explicitly as it will be pulled in by the xorg metapackage |
| 12:03.21 | jiohdi | Lope2, I have been told that installing using aptitude rather than apt-get does better at finding dependencies |
| 12:03.32 | babilen | nah, both are perfectly fine |
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| 12:04.04 | Lope2 | okay so once xorg is installed, when I startx I should get some action? |
| 12:04.09 | Lope2 | do I even need jwm? |
| 12:04.19 | babilen | In fact I prefer apt-get for day-to-day administration and use aptitude if I need one of its features (interactive resolver, search terms, ...) |
| 12:04.23 | Lope2 | I just want to one 1 wine app. (but at some point I might want to run 2) |
| 12:04.24 | jiohdi | you need some sort of wm, I prefer i3 |
| 12:04.29 | grandie | dpkg pastebinit |
| 12:04.30 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
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| 12:04.44 | babilen | dpkg: tell grandie -about msgthebot |
| 12:05.11 | jelly | Lope2: you won't need a wm nor a local X server, but it's probably easier to have them while setting things up |
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| 12:05.54 | Lope2 | well what I really want is a virtual desktop space to run a VNC server on |
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| 12:05.59 | Lope2 | its for running on a VPS |
| 12:06.03 | babilen | Lope2: How did you configure your system to start jwm? While jwm is a valid choice, there are more, well, modern window managers that you might want to consider like fluxbox or openbox. I wouldn't necessarily recommend to try a tiling window manager like awesome, xmonad or the (misguided) i3 at this point though. |
| 12:06.34 | jelly | Lope2: vnc server on unix runs its own X server and desktop, no need to run a separate local X server |
| 12:06.40 | Lope2 | babilen: I'm going for minimal memory usage |
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| 12:06.59 | Lope2 | jelly: if I do that will I still need xorg installed? |
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| 12:07.13 | babilen | Lope2: All of the above options can be considered minimal as modern systems tend to have more than 8MB of memory available. |
| 12:07.39 | jelly | babilen: what Lope2 is forgetting to say, is he's targeting for a remote wine app running "headless", in a vnc instance |
| 12:07.44 | babilen | Lope2: But use what you are comfortable with; I simply wanted to point out that good alternatives exist. |
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| 12:08.26 | babilen | jelly: Thanks for elaborating :-) |
| 12:08.29 | jelly | babilen: and his current local X session on a local vmware VM is just testing things out |
| 12:08.46 | Lope2 | babilen: thanks :) btw I've heard of some of those. I use mate on my laptop, and I've got a friend who uses i3. I've tried cinnamon, it was horribly slow. |
| 12:08.54 | babilen | yeah, I had a discussion about the (IMHO suboptimal) choice of squeeze with Lope2 yesterday. |
| 12:09.11 | killown | I am having this issue with debian http://superuser.com/questions/423289/debian-cups-cant-add-a-printer can anyone help me? |
| 12:09.31 | Lope2 | babilen: thanks: BTW I spoke to my VPS host and they said they've got debian 7 they just haven't updated the list on their site. |
| 12:09.50 | Lope2 | so I'll just experiment with this while its sort of setup. I'll redo it on the VPS anyway. |
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| 12:10.17 | babilen | Lope2: I can't stand i3, but would consider all of awesome, fluxbox, openbox, xmonad~ and, say, windowmaker reasonable choices among others. |
| 12:10.28 | Lope2 | babilen: I'm just running 1 app on the VPS and I pay for the RAM used, so I want to use a minimal WM. |
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| 12:11.01 | babilen | Lope2: I would personally consider most of the above to be quite minimal :) |
| 12:11.10 | babilen | fsvo minimal |
| 12:11.13 | killown | debian isn't supposed to be the most stable distro? why am I having this issue http://superuser.com/questions/423289/debian-cups-cant-add-a-printer then? |
| 12:11.36 | Lope2 | jelly: thanks, yes I'm gonna be running headless :) |
| 12:11.51 | Lope2 | babilen: me === extremist sometimes, it can be fun. |
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| 12:11.56 | babilen | killown: "stable" in Debian simply means "not changing" and has nothing to do with "working" or "bug free" -- that doesn't meant that we don't work *very* hard to ensure the latter, but don't get mislead by the name. |
| 12:12.12 | babilen | dpkg: tell killown -about stable |
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| 12:12.21 | themill | adding a printer should certainly work, however |
| 12:12.33 | nimbiotics | hello everyone. I recently installed debian on a partition where I previously had ubuntu. I also have windaz installed on another partition on the same HDD. The problem I'm having is that grub does not respond to keyboard input, so I'm not able to choose which OS I want to work with. How can I fix this? TIA! |
| 12:12.40 | killown | so I just need to apt-get upgrade to break stuff |
| 12:12.51 | babilen | killown: And starting a question with an (implied) insult is not the best of tactics to get friendly and professional help. |
| 12:12.54 | killown | it was working, stopped after the update |
| 12:13.06 | babilen | killown: Update from what to what? |
| 12:13.19 | Lope2 | whats a good choice of headless VNC server? |
| 12:13.22 | killown | just usual update |
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| 12:14.45 | vanvik | did owncloud just dissappear form wheezy-backports? |
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| 12:14.59 | vanvik | from* |
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| 12:15.34 | grandie | babilen: thanks for the assistance with using dpkg |
| 12:15.37 | themill | vanvik: it was never really there |
| 12:16.03 | vanvik | ok? pretty sure it was earlier today? |
| 12:16.31 | themill | killown: it would be handy to know to and from what and what's in your cupsd.conf |
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| 12:18.05 | digitlman | is there a way to set vncserver to only allow connections from certain IP addresses? |
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| 12:19.06 | babilen | grandie: No problem. You can find documentation for our other bot (judd) on http://ircbots.debian.net/judd/ |
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| 12:19.30 | patsToms | Hi, I am trying to compile vim from source, but got some problems with Perl on compile |
| 12:19.32 | patsToms | any ideas? |
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| 12:20.13 | linux-fox | why do you compile vim? |
| 12:20.58 | patsToms | I want to get atleast 7.3.584 |
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| 12:22.11 | babilen | patsToms: It might not be too hard to backport 7.4.052-1 from sid by following "/msg dpkg ssb" |
| 12:22.39 | linux-fox | i am using vim 7.3.547 |
| 12:22.45 | babilen | patsToms: And is there a specific reason why you "want" 7.3.584 specifically? |
| 12:22.58 | patsToms | linux-fox, http://valloric.github.io/YouCompleteMe/ |
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| 12:23.39 | latsni | Hi everyone, i have wired graphic artifacts on my gnome background picture and sometimes on other applications, too, i searched the web but could not find a solution for it or what could cause these artifacts .. but i found an old post with a similar problem http://www.linuxine.com/story/weird-artifacts-compiz .. original background: http://i.imgur.com/1Y8IXpH.jpg and artifacts on background: http://i.imgur.com/TSV6lbU.jpg what could cause the |
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| 12:24.23 | jelly | Lope2: dunno, I'd use the default vnc4server, possibly over a ssh tunnel, see if it works out |
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| 12:27.02 | grandie | thanks babilen |
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| 12:30.59 | nimbiotics | hello everyone. I recently installed debian on a partition where I previously had ubuntu. I also have windaz installed on another partition on the same HDD. The problem I'm having is that grub does not respond to keyboard input, so I'm not able to choose which OS I want to work with. How can I fix this? TIA! |
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| 12:31.34 | Freeder | Hi, I added an inittab entry: bp:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/sudo -u /my/shell/script.sh . script.sh holds 'exec python file.py --arg1 --arg2' ... running telinit q (or rebooting) doesn't seem to load that file.py . Running test.sh by itself functions as expected. Any thoughts as to where I went wrong? |
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| 12:32.25 | jelly | Freeder: sudo -u who? |
| 12:32.51 | jelly | Freeder: /my/shell/script.sh does not sound like a valid username or uid |
| 12:33.02 | Freeder | my user... its in there, i just deleted it in my copy/paste |
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| 12:33.35 | Freeder | -u user /my/shell/script... |
| 12:33.39 | BitPuffin | I guess what I'm gonna do is to like install debian testing on a small partition and see if I can get it working |
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| 12:33.59 | Freeder | is there any place errors would get logged? I dont see anything in log/syslog or log/messages |
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| 12:35.17 | jelly | Freeder: ok. Is there a reason you're not using su? |
| 12:35.37 | Freeder | not particularly, i suppose |
| 12:35.53 | jelly | sudo is not present in Debian by default |
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| 12:36.07 | Freeder | ahhhhhh |
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| 12:36.35 | jelly | Freeder: you ought to see some lines mentioning init in /var/log/daemon.log |
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| 12:36.45 | jelly | eg. after init q, |
| 12:36.47 | jelly | Oct 11 14:35:30 kanta-linux init: Re-reading inittab |
| 12:37.01 | Freeder | cannot execute "/usr/bin/su" |
| 12:37.20 | Freeder | yeah yeah |
| 12:37.23 | Freeder | not usr |
| 12:37.28 | jelly | you can figure that one out... right |
| 12:37.31 | fishsponge | hello! i'm on Debian and need to get the "xfce4-soundmenu-plugin" working... i have downloaded 0.6.0, compiled and installed it... but I cannot get it to show up on the panel... anyone help? |
| 12:37.32 | themill | running stuff directly from inittab never strikes me as a good idea |
| 12:38.06 | jelly | except for monit or svscanboot or some other helper-for-poor-init-systems |
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| 12:39.01 | jelly | incidentally, vendor for $enterprise_backup_system told us that was exactly how we ought to run the thing |
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| 12:39.11 | fishsponge | or, alternatively, does anyone know of a plugin on the XFCE panel that can control banshee? |
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| 12:39.22 | BotaniCar | good guy $VENDOR |
| 12:39.38 | jelly | so now it's running under daemontools |
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| 12:40.34 | babilen | fishsponge: Download 0.6.0 of what and from where? |
| 12:41.14 | Freeder | Id "bp" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes |
| 12:41.39 | fishsponge | babilen, i've downloaded "xfce4-soundmenu-plugin-0.6.0"... I can't remember where from - i've been browsing so many sites... |
| 12:41.41 | Freeder | it was before, when it couldnt spawn... does that 'ignore' persist through telinit q ? Or is this still a problem? |
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| 12:42.10 | Freeder | s/ignore/disable |
| 12:42.15 | fishsponge | babilen, i downloaded it from here: https://code.google.com/p/dissonance/downloads/detail?name=xfce4-soundmenu-plugin-0.6.0.tar.bz2&can=2&q= |
| 12:42.24 | jelly | Freeder: redo the telinit q to reset the delay timer, if I remember correctly |
| 12:42.29 | babilen | fishsponge: Why do you think that installing that on Debian would work? |
| 12:42.30 | fishsponge | it hsa compiled fine, and installed fine, but I cannot see it in the list of addable plugins |
| 12:42.35 | Freeder | yeah, so i'm still getting that error then |
| 12:42.44 | Freeder | i'll wait a few more mins, kist mo case |
| 12:42.45 | fishsponge | babilen, i thought it would work because it's an XFCE plugin |
| 12:43.04 | Freeder | *just in case |
| 12:43.06 | Freeder | geez |
| 12:43.36 | fishsponge | babilen, in summary, i need a plugin that sits on the XFCE4 panel which lets me control banshee, for example. |
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| 12:45.27 | jelly | Freeder: that's why you have timestamps! |
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| 12:45.41 | babilen | fishsponge: I take it that that is not the case? Does the plugin come with any install instructions or further information? I mean I would rather ask this question in, say, #xfce as it really has very little to do with Debian. (not that I wouldn't want to help you) |
| 12:45.51 | grammoboy | my laptop makes an annoying system noise when i want to finish the command aptitude with TAB for instance |
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| 12:46.09 | grammoboy | how do I set off these sounds/ blieps? |
| 12:46.10 | babilen | fishsponge: Any error messages from it in ~/.xsession-errors maybe? |
| 12:46.15 | grammoboy | fluxbox here |
| 12:46.19 | Freeder | Id "bp" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes |
| 12:46.20 | fishsponge | babilen, the plugin does come with install instructions, which I have followed... it basically says "./configure, make, make install" |
| 12:46.22 | Freeder | still getting that |
| 12:46.29 | grammoboy | probably need some pulseaudio tool? |
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| 12:46.37 | grammoboy | setting sound off in alsamixer wont help |
| 12:46.37 | Freeder | and I was getting the same error when I was using sudo, as I had bassed it the explicit path to sudo... |
| 12:46.45 | themill | grammoboy: that can normally be configured by the terminal itself |
| 12:46.50 | fishsponge | babilen, no errors in ~/.xsession-errors related to it at all |
| 12:46.52 | Freeder | so what would cause it to respawn too fast? |
| 12:47.10 | ksk | hey guys |
| 12:47.13 | grammoboy | themill, hm ok, xterm here |
| 12:47.20 | jelly | Freeder: the process failed. |
| 12:47.28 | babilen | fishsponge: Okay, that might not have been the best of ideas (as it might have installed to /usr and not /usr/local), but fair enough. I would recommend to contact the upstream author or XFCE gurus for help with that... :-/ |
| 12:47.32 | babilen | dpkg: tell fishsponge -about usrlocal |
| 12:47.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell fishsponge -about stow usage |
| 12:47.38 | ksk | lets say i wanted to remove "/bin/ln" but not the coreutils package - is there a clean way to do this? (eg if i just remove it apt will probably reinstall it some day) |
| 12:47.42 | Freeder | jelly: running that command manually, succeeds |
| 12:47.43 | jelly | Freeder: and exited immediately, and init spawned it again, ... |
| 12:47.51 | babilen | fishsponge: The bot sent you some information on how to nicely manage those local installations. |
| 12:47.51 | jelly | Freeder: implement logging. |
| 12:47.56 | babilen | bbl, lunch |
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| 12:49.17 | ksk | dpkg-divert seems to be the answer, thanks. |
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| 12:53.35 | Freeder | ok, so maybe I got some bad gouge here... the script i'm running via init is a wrapper that launches a seperate process via 'exec' |
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| 12:54.22 | Freeder | The goal was for script.sh to not exit unless target.py died, so we did 'exec /path/bla.py ' in script.sh |
| 12:54.30 | Freeder | but it looks like it execs that process, then exits |
| 12:54.46 | Freeder | how do I get script.sh to not exit unless bla.py does? |
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| 12:55.55 | jelly | exec replaces the current process with a new one, retaining the pid, what you're seeing means bla.py died |
| 12:56.18 | Freeder | so in theory, what i just said *should* work |
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| 12:57.21 | jelly | if everything else is sane, yes |
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| 12:59.05 | Freeder | so wierd though, when i run it manually, it works just fine |
| 12:59.16 | dxtr | So |
| 12:59.33 | Zzeiss | My OpenOffice (er, LibreOffice) seems to have gone whacko- scrolling past 142 lines in a document causes the whole system to hang! |
| 12:59.52 | jelly | Freeder: if you put a, say, sleep 300 in your script before exec, does that work? |
| 12:59.54 | killown | themill, I get cupsReadClient: 10 GET /admin/log/error_log? HTTP/1.1 cupsAuthorize: Authorized as root using Basic |
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| 13:00.53 | Zzeiss | Any idea what might be causing this? Or should I just remove and reinstall LibreOffice? |
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| 13:01.16 | jelly | Freeder: if it doesn't, then go back one step, and test whether running sleep directly instead of your script works. If that doesn't, go back one more step and avoid using su/sudo and run just /bin/sleep and see if _that_ works. etc. |
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| 13:01.50 | Freeder | :) |
| 13:02.03 | jelly | Freeder: that way you systematically find out which part of the inittab process tails |
| 13:02.06 | jelly | fails |
| 13:02.12 | Freeder | it worked |
| 13:02.23 | Freeder | put sleep 10 in |
| 13:02.27 | Freeder | and its running fine |
| 13:02.41 | jelly | so it's your python thingy that fails |
| 13:02.43 | Freeder | so, thanks for that |
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| 13:02.59 | Freeder | well, i dont know that i'd say it failed... its running |
| 13:03.05 | Freeder | it just didnt like getting called that fast over and over? |
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| 13:03.30 | Freeder | added the sleep 10 and everything runs fine |
| 13:03.50 | jelly | eh? exec and the python thing runs after a sleep is added? You have some sort of a race condition somewhere then |
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| 13:05.57 | loulan | hi people |
| 13:06.05 | loulan | I'm trying to install Cinnamon 2.0 on debien wheezy |
| 13:06.11 | loulan | but I get dependency problems |
| 13:06.43 | loulan | a list of packages that will not be installed |
| 13:06.56 | loulan | and using apt-get -f install doesn't seem to work |
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| 13:08.04 | babilen | loulan: How are you trying to install it? It should be quite easy to backport, but following "/msg dpkg ssb" *once* you've backported and installed libmuffin-dev |
| 13:08.24 | babilen | loulan: Do *not* ever mix stable with testing or unstable as that *will* break your system. |
| 13:08.44 | babilen | (or you'll be in package dependency hell) |
| 13:08.44 | themill | installing random packages designed for other linux distributions isn't a grand plan either |
| 13:08.57 | babilen | loulan: And yeah, where did you get 2.0 from? |
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| 13:09.12 | loulan | from ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-stable |
| 13:09.19 | loulan | but yeah it seems to be only for ubuntu? |
| 13:09.30 | themill | loulan: by definition |
| 13:09.31 | babilen | loulan: So ask gwendal-lebihan for support. We certainly don't support that. |
| 13:09.34 | jelly | loulan: PPA repositories are alwaus for ubuntu only |
| 13:09.48 | loulan | I see |
| 13:09.50 | loulan | okay |
| 13:09.55 | loulan | thanks |
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| 13:10.11 | jelly | backporting / building from their deb-src may or may not work |
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| 13:10.58 | Freeder | hmm |
| 13:11.04 | Freeder | it ran it that first time, but i still get Id "bp" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes |
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| 13:12.25 | Freeder | ok |
| 13:12.31 | jelly | Freeder: your bla.py has to stay in the foreground and keep running, it must not detach itself and daemonize |
| 13:12.36 | Freeder | so, the .py script runs, but the .sh exits |
| 13:12.40 | Zzeiss | Is there any way to get windows to autoraise with focus? |
| 13:12.46 | Freeder | it does indeed background |
| 13:12.47 | Freeder | ok |
| 13:12.59 | jelly | Freeder: then it cannot run from inittab |
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| 13:14.38 | Freeder | thanks :) know where to go with this now, I think |
| 13:14.45 | Freeder | appreciate the effort |
| 13:14.53 | Freeder | never would have got here on my own! |
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| 13:25.38 | Slydder | hey all. I have a file with a listing of all installed packages. how can I correctly pipe that list through apt-get to install on a clean server? |
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| 13:26.34 | Konomi | q/uit |
| 13:26.54 | Konomi | pout sorry ;p |
| 13:27.07 | Nik05 | Slydder apt-get install $(cat file) |
| 13:27.10 | Nik05 | i think that works |
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| 13:27.58 | Nik05 | wait doesnt work |
| 13:28.32 | Nik05 | apt-get install $(< file.txt) // is what someone on internet says |
| 13:28.51 | Nik05 | oh that cat works too |
| 13:29.31 | jelly | !tell Slydder about aptitude clone |
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| 13:31.58 | Freeder | oh, last question... can inittab entries have longer than 2 chars for the id? |
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| 13:34.05 | \tau | i'm using gnome3 and i want to set a command to open a .py file as default. |
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| 13:34.35 | \tau | so whenever i click on a .py it will run a command that will open the file with an editor written in python. |
| 13:35.01 | \tau | i click on properties, open with, but it doesnt give me the option to open the file with python scripts. |
| 13:35.07 | \tau | or like setting a command. |
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| 13:36.47 | jelly | Freeder: man inittab can probably answer that |
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| 13:39.45 | abhisar | how can i log when resource request exceeds the amount specified in limits.conf file ?? |
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| 13:40.25 | Freeder | thanks |
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| 13:45.13 | nimbiotics | hello everyone. I recently installed debian on a partition where I previously had ubuntu. I also have windaz installed on another partition on the same HDD. The problem I'm having is that grub does not respond to keyboard input, so I'm not able to choose which OS I want to work with. How can I fix this? TIA! |
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| 13:46.28 | mumpitzel | nimbiotics: can you get into BIOS? |
| 13:47.08 | nimbiotics | the prob is not in the BIOS. keyboard is working before getting into grub |
| 13:47.37 | nimbiotics | mumpitzel: the prob is not in the BIOS. keyboard is working before getting into grub |
| 13:47.38 | jelly | nimbiotics: usb keyboard? |
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| 13:48.19 | jelly | nimbiotics: if so, enable legacy usb / legacy usb HID in BIOS |
| 13:48.27 | nimbiotics | mumpitzel: yes, but USB is working OK before going to grub, also it was working right after installation |
| 13:48.36 | jelly | or something named similarly |
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| 13:49.17 | nimbiotics | jelly: Thnaks for your help. I already enabled legacy |
| 13:49.47 | jelly | and any HID / usb input device options? |
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| 13:50.09 | pirret | do you have efi bios? |
| 13:50.15 | nimbiotics | I read somewhere else about this person going thru same issue after an update, but did not see the solution |
| 13:50.39 | nimbiotics | pirret: EFI? |
| 13:50.51 | pirret | yes |
| 13:51.01 | nimbiotics | dont wht that means |
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| 13:51.37 | pirret | how old your pc is? |
| 13:52.11 | nimbiotics | about 4 or 5 years |
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| 14:00.44 | mrrcp | ive been using ubuntu too much |
| 14:00.47 | mrrcp | how do you reload sshd |
| 14:01.28 | jhutchins | service sshd reload | /etc/init.d/sshd reload |
| 14:01.54 | tau | hi |
| 14:01.58 | tau | am i being read? |
| 14:02.09 | DigitalYeti | yup |
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| 14:04.06 | tau | i need to define a python editor to open some files in gnome3. |
| 14:04.10 | tau | how can i achieve that? |
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| 14:08.01 | jelly | jhutchins: it's "ssh" in Debian, no d |
| 14:08.30 | jhutchins | jelly: You're right. |
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| 14:13.52 | trebor_dki | hello. is it possible delete/rename .Xauthority after starting program-A, so that no other x-program can start afterwards (in this session) for that user? |
| 14:15.09 | jelly | trebor_dki: yes. |
| 14:15.20 | jelly | trebor_dki: you can also truncate it |
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| 14:21.30 | vanchela | hello my dear friends |
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| 14:22.30 | vanchela | russian? |
| 14:22.42 | vanchela | есть кто из России? |
| 14:22.48 | mumpitzel | !ru |
| 14:22.49 | dpkg | Это английскоговорящий канал, пожалуйста, говорите по-английски или посетите #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
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| 14:23.15 | AsmaPhone | Hello, I need help |
| 14:23.23 | TriJetScud | ! |
| 14:23.25 | TriJetScud | oops |
| 14:23.41 | AsmaPhone | I have been using nouveau for a long time and now want to install nvidia, but no matter what I do it just won't work |
| 14:23.50 | AsmaPhone | What should I do? |
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| 14:24.31 | AsmaPhone | Xorg log says it keeps trying to load nouveau |
| 14:24.41 | mumpitzel | !tell AsmaPhone about nvidia dkms |
| 14:24.57 | mumpitzel | AsmaPhone: have you written a xorg.conf file? |
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| 14:25.20 | AsmaPhone | Yes |
| 14:25.38 | AsmaPhone | xorg.d one too |
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| 14:25.44 | AsmaPhone | Removed nouveau as well |
| 14:26.26 | mumpitzel | what is the Xorg.0.log then? |
| 14:26.31 | mumpitzel | and the output of lsmod |
| 14:27.14 | trebor_dki | jelly: i searched for .xauthority truncate, but i fail. what do you mean by truncating: shorten it? |
| 14:27.29 | AsmaPhone | Xorg log says it's trying to load nouveau and can't find it |
| 14:28.06 | AsmaPhone | lsmod lists nvidia among others |
| 14:28.10 | babilen | AsmaPhone: You really don't have to remove nouveau and you *only* need a minimal configuration file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ -- The seminal way to install the drivers is detailed on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers and it is important to reboot to enable the nouveau blacklist. |
| 14:28.11 | jelly | trebor_dki: yes. cp /dev/null ~/.Xauthority |
| 14:28.22 | babilen | AsmaPhone: How did *you* install the drivers? |
| 14:28.25 | AsmaPhone | Can't exactly copy paste in CLI |
| 14:28.32 | mumpitzel | AsmaPhone: yes you can |
| 14:28.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell AsmaPhone -about nopaste |
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| 14:29.23 | mumpitzel | while you're at it: lspci -nn;dpkg -l |grep nvidia |
| 14:29.56 | babilen | AsmaPhone: Make the second command "COLUMNS=200 '*nvidia*'" please |
| 14:30.01 | babilen | err |
| 14:30.17 | babilen | "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l '*nvidia*'" that is :) |
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| 14:30.39 | trebor_dki | jelly: oh, that is pretty short ;) |
| 14:30.43 | jhutchins | !gpm |
| 14:30.44 | dpkg | gpm (General Purpose Mouse) is a package for use of the mouse in a Linux (text-only) console. Install it, then use left button to select text, middle or right button to paste. In some applications (such as elinks), you have to hold down Shift in order to cut or paste, otherwise the application itself interprets the mouse clicks. http://www.nico.schottelius.org/software/gpm/ #gpm on irc.freenode.net. |
| 14:30.55 | AsmaPhone | I installed xserver-xorg-video-nvidia as well as nvidia-kernel-dkms and -common |
| 14:31.24 | jelly | trebor_dki: why do they even have a device that always looks like a 0 length file when read! |
| 14:31.36 | jelly | hides |
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| 14:33.47 | babilen | AsmaPhone: We really have to see your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the output of the commands we mentioned. |
| 14:34.19 | AsmaPhone | I don't even have IRC in cli running :/ |
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| 14:34.45 | AsmaPhone | OK, give me a minute or two |
| 14:35.05 | babilen | AsmaPhone: thanks, let us know if you require help with anything in particular |
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| 14:35.49 | Twinkletoes | If I haven't installed any mail program on my system (sendmail/postfix aren't there) I installed heirloom-mailx as a lightweight alternative, but what location should I use for the sendmail path when I run update-alternative --install? |
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| 14:38.20 | Asmageddon | Okay |
| 14:38.23 | Asmageddon | Here I am in finch |
| 14:38.31 | Asmageddon | Now, how am I supposed to copy that link? |
| 14:38.41 | Asmageddon | Or should I switch between tmux windows and type it letter after letter? |
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| 14:39.43 | babilen | Asmageddon: Where did you paste it to? |
| 14:39.59 | Asmageddon | I used the nopaste-it thing |
| 14:40.01 | Asmageddon | From CLI |
| 14:40.07 | Asmageddon | Since X won't start |
| 14:40.21 | Asmageddon | Due to trying to load nouveau |
| 14:40.24 | Asmageddon | Which was removed |
| 14:40.29 | Asmageddon | Driver in xorg.conf was set to nvidia |
| 14:40.35 | Asmageddon | nouveau was blacklisted |
| 14:40.38 | Asmageddon | Still tries to load it |
| 14:41.00 | babilen | Asmageddon: Where did you paste it to? ( http://paste.debian.net , pastie.org, something else?) |
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| 14:41.26 | Asmageddon | nopaste.linux.dev.org |
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| 14:41.37 | Asmageddon | 101599 is the paste ID |
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| 14:42.00 | tx | Hey guys, can someone help me try and get my DNS suffix working on my debian box? I've added a search field to my resolv.conf file |
| 14:42.03 | tx | but it doesn't seem to be using it. |
| 14:42.06 | babilen | Asmageddon: And you don't need (nor want) a /etc/X11/xorg.conf as that has been deprecated in years. The seminal installation instructions for the nvidia driver are on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers which also explains how to configure it. But let me take a look at your paste. |
| 14:42.13 | Asmageddon | http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?101599 |
| 14:42.30 | Asmageddon | babilen: I made an xorg.d/20-blahblahblah file too |
| 14:42.42 | babilen | You only require one |
| 14:42.56 | Asmageddon | Well, I have both, and both are set to nvidia |
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| 14:43.01 | Asmageddon | So at least one should work :/ |
| 14:43.07 | mumpitzel | so it is loading nvidia after all |
| 14:43.23 | mumpitzel | please reinstall nouveau |
| 14:43.25 | Asmageddon | Then why does it fail and talks about nouveau? :/ |
| 14:43.35 | mumpitzel | cause you removed it |
| 14:43.40 | Asmageddon | yeah, I want nvidia |
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| 14:43.41 | jordanm | installation of the nvidia driver blacklists it |
| 14:43.50 | Asmageddon | Not nouveau |
| 14:43.58 | jordanm | mumpitzel: it's in-tree, it can't be uninstalled without uninstalling the kernel |
| 14:44.08 | Asmageddon | or do I need nouveau to use nvidia? |
| 14:44.16 | babilen | no |
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| 14:44.41 | mumpitzel | jargon: he means the X server part |
| 14:44.49 | Asmageddon | What should I do, then? Install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ? |
| 14:44.50 | mumpitzel | jordanm: ^ |
| 14:44.58 | mumpitzel | yes. just for giggles |
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| 14:45.09 | babilen | Asmageddon: So, remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-whatever-you-called.it |
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| 14:46.00 | Asmageddon | It just has the Device section |
| 14:46.05 | Asmageddon | And inside Identifier "GPU" |
| 14:46.06 | babilen | Asmageddon: And as said earlier: You neither have nor want to *remove* anything when you install nvidia-kernel-dkms and its *recommended* packages. Do you have recommends disabled? |
| 14:46.08 | Asmageddon | And Driver "nvidia" |
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| 14:46.22 | Asmageddon | babilen: No clue if I do or don't ~_~ |
| 14:46.36 | iamarto | are there any debian packages for bitcoin miners? Any idea? |
| 14:46.54 | babilen | Asmageddon: So, just to check: Which release of Debian do you use? |
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| 14:47.21 | Asmageddon | Debian install failed at some point, so I manually set the sources, I think to testing |
| 14:47.33 | Asmageddon | I also have GRUB 1 and I update it manually |
| 14:47.34 | Asmageddon | ~_~ |
| 14:47.34 | apt | STOP THAT! |
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| 14:47.58 | babilen | Asmageddon: Okay, you want to ask for support in #debian-next in that case, but its okay for now. |
| 14:48.15 | babilen | (on irc.oftc.net) |
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| 14:48.26 | Asmageddon | :/ |
| 14:48.33 | Asmageddon | nvidia worked for me before though |
| 14:48.40 | Asmageddon | Maybe I need to generate an image or whatever? |
| 14:48.46 | mumpitzel | no you don't |
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| 14:48.56 | hejux | hi |
| 14:49.06 | mumpitzel | you need to follow what you've been asked and provide the informatin. so: will you do that? |
| 14:49.13 | hejux | what's up here |
| 14:49.19 | Asmageddon | Didn't I provide everything people asked for so far? |
| 14:49.22 | Asmageddon | What should I do? |
| 14:49.33 | mumpitzel | hejux: debian support. do you have a debian support question? |
| 14:49.56 | hejux | mumpitzel, yes, i have dude |
| 14:50.04 | mumpitzel | hejux: then you are at the right place |
| 14:50.21 | Asmageddon | So any ideas as to what I should do? |
| 14:50.24 | mumpitzel | Asmageddon: installed nvidia packages, what nvidia hardware you have, the actual content of your xorg.conf mess |
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| 14:50.42 | babilen | Yeah, that is all fair and great. So please remove your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and reboot the box. I would also love to see the output of the DKMS run (might have to reinstall nvidia-kernel-dkms) and I would also be interested in the output of "dpkg -l '*nvidia*'" still (or please check that you *do* have nvidia-driver and *all* of its recommends and dependencies installed. |
| 14:50.58 | mumpitzel | ah yes, the lsmod output |
| 14:51.19 | Asmageddon | And retype the nopaste url every time? :/ |
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| 14:51.30 | Asmageddon | So, should I reboot now after removing xorg.conf? |
| 14:51.37 | Asmageddon | Or paste you the outputs of things first? |
| 14:51.42 | mumpitzel | Asmageddon: no. you can put it all in a single one. if you think about you will find out how you can do it |
| 14:52.02 | hejux | mumpitzel, i need a woman |
| 14:52.20 | mumpitzel | hejux: not packaged yet. please be serious or you might have a very short stay |
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| 14:53.33 | Asmageddon | Ehh, okay, I'll reboot, and hope it works. If not, I'll be back in a second, okay? |
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| 14:53.53 | hejux | mumpitzel, okay, i really miss detain, since i'm using a Mac now, Mac OS X is a piece of shit |
| 14:54.18 | Asmageddon | Alright, see you soon, then |
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| 14:55.31 | hejux | i want to help |
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| 14:55.42 | hejux | anybody have a question to ask? |
| 14:55.46 | iamarto | anyone here uses a bitcoin miner on debian? |
| 14:56.12 | hejux | iamarto, useless to mind bit coin on a PC |
| 14:56.33 | hejux | iamarto, whatever PC, bad performance |
| 14:56.42 | iamarto | hejux, I have just read about it now.. but I don't understand it much if you mind to explain. |
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| 14:57.21 | iamarto | hejux, anyway this will be out of topic here, could you join debian-offtopic? |
| 14:57.25 | hejux | iamarto, nowadays, people use special HARDWARE to mine bitcoin. |
| 14:57.31 | Asmageddon | Well, here I am again! |
| 14:57.40 | Asmageddon | As expected, it does not work |
| 14:57.46 | Asmageddon | Ok, what did you want again? |
| 14:57.55 | Asmageddon | As in commands to paste |
| 14:57.57 | DigitalYeti | gpu farm for bitcoin right? |
| 14:58.11 | jelly | hejux: yes they do, and they attach the hardware to a pc |
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| 14:58.20 | DigitalYeti | using something like condor to coordinate |
| 14:58.21 | DigitalYeti | ? |
| 14:58.38 | iamarto | DigitalYeti, and hejux could you kindly joing debian-offtopic channel so we can discuss there? |
| 14:58.44 | jelly | gpus are not efficient enough any more |
| 14:59.10 | Asmageddon | I was talking to babilen, wasn't I? |
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| 14:59.32 | Asmageddon | Or was it someone else? @_@ |
| 14:59.36 | DigitalYeti | iamarto: I don't know much about it, just throwing out my current understanding |
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| 15:00.09 | DigitalYeti | if you're interested, I'd google "bitcoin condor gpu", I'm sure someone has a tutorial out there |
| 15:00.17 | Asmageddon | 101602 is the paste ID. I'm not sure how to paste errors, so it's only stdout |
| 15:00.26 | Asmageddon | stderr only said "rmdir failed to remove ''" |
| 15:00.27 | Asmageddon | And |
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| 15:00.30 | hejux | iamarto, check ASIC |
| 15:00.31 | iamarto | DigitalYeti, I am unable to understand how computing power translates to money.. what kind of hashes do they catch? |
| 15:00.34 | mercutio22 | Hi. How can I set up the time in gnome to Houston, TX. I dont see the city on the list |
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| 15:00.50 | Asmageddon | That the module it's trying to install is not newer than what is already found in the kernel |
| 15:01.23 | DigitalYeti | iamarto: I don't get it either... but there's plenty of in-depth explanations out there, just google :) they can do better than I can explaining it, for sure :) |
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| 15:01.35 | hejux | iamarto, to know about bit coin, check wikipedia, to know what's the best hardware to make bit coin, check ASIC |
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| 15:01.48 | iamarto | hejux, DigitalYeti ok thanks. |
| 15:02.06 | Asmageddon | Hello? Anyone? |
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| 15:02.20 | Asmageddon | Or did everyone talking to me disappear in the 2 minutes I was gone? |
| 15:02.24 | DigitalYeti | iamarto: no prob! |
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| 15:02.40 | hejux | Asmageddon, whats your problem |
| 15:02.52 | Asmageddon | nvidia does not work |
| 15:02.53 | Asmageddon | At all |
| 15:02.59 | Asmageddon | Can't get it to work |
| 15:03.06 | babilen | Asmageddon: You were talking to me and mumpitzel before. Have you pasted the information we asked for by now? |
| 15:03.08 | DigitalYeti | mercutio22: isn't houston in central time? can you choose another central-time city, like chicago? |
| 15:03.21 | Asmageddon | babilen: One of those. Can't recall the other command |
| 15:03.27 | Asmageddon | What was it? |
| 15:03.29 | Asmageddon | Look up ^ |
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| 15:03.46 | hejux | Asmageddon, too new? |
| 15:03.53 | Asmageddon | hejux: What would be? |
| 15:04.03 | hejux | hardware too new? |
| 15:04.06 | babilen | Asmageddon: Well, the *official* installation instructions are on: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers -- you might want to start over and make sure to *not* remove any other Xorg components (So you might have to install the xorg metapackage and/or its dependencies) |
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| 15:04.25 | Asmageddon | babilen: I installed xorg |
| 15:04.37 | Asmageddon | Since I removed it earlier by accident |
| 15:04.43 | Asmageddon | While trying to remove some nouveau thing |
| 15:04.50 | Asmageddon | Looked at those instructions too |
| 15:04.56 | Asmageddon | Pretty sure I did all they asked me to |
| 15:05.05 | hejux | why people use Linux for Desktop? |
| 15:05.10 | babilen | Asmageddon: |
| 15:05.28 | Asmageddon | babilen: ? |
| 15:05.45 | babilen | Asmageddon: Are you sure that you install with the "-r" flag? Did you reboot by now? (but I'll be off soon which is why I don't want to take over now) |
| 15:05.52 | Asmageddon | I used apt-get |
| 15:06.00 | Asmageddon | So no -r flag |
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| 15:06.42 | babilen | Asmageddon: xorg is also in a bit of a transition in Debian right now (which caused problems for fglrx) so I wouldn't be too surprised if nvidia has problems too, but I haven't heard anything to that effect and still am under the impression that you installed and/or configured it wrongly. |
| 15:06.44 | Asmageddon | Should I reinstall all the linux-headers-my-version things? |
| 15:06.56 | Asmageddon | Yeah, I probably have |
| 15:07.02 | Asmageddon | I just wish it was possible to do |
| 15:07.05 | Asmageddon | apt-get install nvidia |
| 15:07.07 | Asmageddon | And have it work |
| 15:07.10 | Asmageddon | Without all the hassle |
| 15:07.11 | babilen | Asmageddon: You might want to follow those instructions from the beginning and revert your steps |
| 15:07.12 | Asmageddon | :/ |
| 15:07.16 | babilen | dpkg: tell Asmageddon -about enter |
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| 15:07.37 | babilen | Asmageddon: And please use punctuation and not the enter key :D |
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| 15:07.56 | Asmageddon | Too used to typing like this for the most part I'm afraid, but I'll attempt to |
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| 15:08.11 | babilen | Asmageddon: It typically works exactly like that (well, with the command on the wiki) and isn't a hassle at all. Your card is supported by that (assuming it is *not* an optimus card) |
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| 15:09.50 | Asmageddon | babilen: Ehh, I don't even know what steps to reverse and how |
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| 15:11.14 | Asmageddon | God, I don't have enough mental stability to deal with this fucking shit, why can't it just work? :/ |
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| 15:11.29 | Asmageddon | I'm gonna smash my PC to pieces at this rate. |
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| 15:12.06 | babilen | Asmageddon: I'm off now, but I would recommend: *Reinstall* the driver and, in particular, make sure that it compiles cleanly. Then double-check that your configuration matches that mentioned on the wiki. |
| 15:12.16 | Asmageddon | I reinstalled the headers |
| 15:12.22 | Asmageddon | Reinstalled the nvidia-kernel-dkms thing |
| 15:12.24 | Asmageddon | Twice now |
| 15:13.23 | Asmageddon | Configuration does match the wiki, I just entered "GPU" as Identifier instead of "My GPU" |
| 15:13.26 | babilen | Asmageddon: Well, you are using a development release of Debian. Maybe you would prefer the stable release or a different distribution, but my impression is still that you didn't follow our official instructions but half-baked something yourself that might or might not be correct. I am also not convinced that you did a complete (and correct) upgrade to jessie which might cause complications as well. |
| 15:13.39 | jhutchins | Asmageddon: You realize that there are thousands of people out there who have followed the directions and for whom this _does_ "just work". |
| 15:13.51 | babilen | Asmageddon: Does reinstalling nvidia-kernel-dkms actually trigger the recompilation of the module? |
| 15:13.55 | Asmageddon | Then that's cool for those people |
| 15:14.08 | Asmageddon | babilen: I'm pretty sure that yes, it does |
| 15:14.15 | Asmageddon | I pasted it earlier |
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| 15:14.50 | Asmageddon | 101602 is the paste ID on the same server as before, though only includes stdout, because I can't recall how to pass stderr too |
| 15:15.04 | babilen | Asmageddon: yeah, the reinstallation looks fine |
| 15:15.18 | Asmageddon | stderrr only said that rmdir can't delete '' and that the module I'm trying to install is not newer than the one installed |
| 15:15.21 | babilen | (at least from what I can tell) |
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| 15:16.12 | Asmageddon | nouveau is blacklisted as well, and I even did a manual update-initramfs -u too |
| 15:16.31 | Asmageddon | Still the same result |
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| 15:16.53 | Asmageddon | Should I reboot now after reinstalling the headers, or something, maybe? |
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| 15:17.44 | babilen | Asmageddon: My recommendation: Join #debian-next on irc.oftc.net and start to investigate the issue. It might very well be related to the xorg transition, but I haven't seen evidence of *anybody else* having problems (yet). Please also make sure that your system is actually in good order (reasonably up-to-date). The nvidia driver maintainer idles in #d-next and might be willing to help. |
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| 15:18.09 | babilen | Asmageddon: Reinstalling the headers won't make a difference ... What I would, however, ensure is that you have all recommedned packages installed. |
| 15:20.29 | Asmageddon | Great :/ |
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| 15:26.45 | tx | Hey guys, can someone help me try and get my DNS suffix working on my debian box? I've added a search field to my resolv.conf file |
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| 15:35.00 | Walex2 | tx: that should just work... |
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| 15:35.19 | Walex2 | tx: note that 'domain' and 'search' are mutually exclusive. |
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| 15:40.30 | tx | Walex2: hostname -A lists an incorrect FQDN |
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| 15:43.47 | chrisoprase | Hi, I've added a costume shortcut on gdm3 system settings, but it's not accepting a key sequence, any ideas? |
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| 15:49.10 | chrisoprase | *custom |
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| 15:52.11 | icjs | chrisoprase, sorry not sure but there is a #gnome channel if you get noi response here. |
| 15:52.40 | chrisoprase | thanks |
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| 15:53.24 | TechLover | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:55.38 | icjs | in fact, i have found it doesnt work at all in firefox (i think) |
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| 15:55.57 | icjs | i'm also using wheezy |
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| 15:57.19 | Walex2 | tx: 'hostname -A' has nothing to do with DNS |
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| 15:58.03 | TechLover | icjs: thanks, will install chrome :( |
| 15:58.21 | Walex2 | tx: moe precisely, with *forward* DNS, reverse DNS of course it does |
| 15:58.50 | Walex2 | tx: probably you have obsolete reverse mappings in '/etc/hosts' |
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| 15:59.57 | somiaj | I also thought google talk was replaced with google hangout, at least on my andriod it was. Wonder if that would work better |
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| 16:06.14 | icjs | somiaj, same here for my android phone. but i use the google talk in chrome to make cheap international calls (alternative to skype) |
| 16:06.34 | icjs | via the laptop/desktop with headset/mic |
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| 16:07.48 | icjs | google are either "doing a microsoft" and only making sure their linux deb works with chrome rather firefox - or just dont have the developer bandwidht to support both |
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| 16:11.22 | Warp4 | so is there any way to install chrome without having the packager use /opt? |
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| 16:13.14 | petn-randall | Warp4: You can always install chromIUM. It's the same thing without the tracking ID. |
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| 16:14.00 | TechLover | not working either with google browser, |
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| 16:17.47 | jhutchins | TechLover: What specifically is wrong? "Not working" really doesn't tell us anything useful. |
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| 16:22.07 | TechLover | sorry jhutchins . Im tryng to test again. it enter in a cycle of installing, then refresh, then installing |
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| 16:22.23 | maxyz | jhutchins: 17:53:24 TechLover :( anyone having problem with google talk plugin ? Im using wheezy |
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| 16:31.29 | icjs | TechLover, you need to be more descriptive. is the mic not working? or the test sound? do you see the sliders move when you log into gmail, click settings and then "verify my settings"? |
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| 16:38.19 | TechLover | icjs: cant find "verify my settings" problem is when I try to "Video call" it opens a new window, loads a bite then asks to install the plugin |
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| 16:56.58 | TechLover | icjs, jhutchins http://paste.debian.net/56201/ |
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| 17:01.29 | Axone | Hi, I installed libc6 2.17 from testing repo on Wheezy, and i would want to downgrade it to 2.15. Is it do-able ? |
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| 17:19.52 | somiaj | Axone: ouchy, you shouldn't mix repos like that and I would find all testing packages you have installed |
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| 17:20.42 | Axone | It's the only one, i made sure that apt-get would prefer the normal repo |
| 17:20.44 | somiaj | Axone: there is no automatic downgrade, you will have to manually downgrade the libc6 version. The issue is if you have anything that is dependent on the newer libc6 version you have installed it will break and not work correct, so you are gonna want to go search your system and downgrade every package (manually) that depends on the newer version of libc6 |
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| 17:21.19 | somiaj | Axone: just don't mix, the issue isn't pinning, but the fact that newer software depends on newer libaries, so the newer libaries get pulled in and then your old software may break due to the libary changes. |
| 17:21.35 | Axone | I see |
| 17:21.40 | somiaj | Axone: if you want newer software from testing you use a backport, you do not just install a testing binary. You want to get a binry package that is built for wheezy. |
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| 17:21.59 | somiaj | some times backports are made, many times you may have to compile them yourself. |
| 17:22.36 | Axone | Ok, i'll think of that next time |
| 17:22.48 | somiaj | Axone: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html -- aptitude search will provide some powerful tools so you can look up which packages depend on the newer libc6 version and for any testing packages to help with the downgrade. |
| 17:23.13 | somiaj | but I would search for all packages installed from testing and downgrade them manually. You will probabaly want to downgrade libc6 as the very last one |
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| 17:23.57 | somiaj | because if you have anything in your system that will break due to the older version of libc6 dpkg won't allow it to be installed correctly and since libc6 is such a core libary it could mess things up doing the downgrade. |
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| 17:24.20 | somiaj | i.e. any package that depends on the new version but not the old. |
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| 17:27.40 | Axone | I have done a "sudo apt-cache showpkg libc6" and it returns a longgg list of "reverse depends" |
| 17:28.20 | Axone | Hope it does not mean "packages that depend on newer version" |
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| 17:30.53 | Axone | Also have a few "dependencies" and "provides" |
| 17:30.56 | Axone | http://pastebin.com/G6H1gXyK |
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| 17:32.54 | somiaj | unforntally that will list packages that depend on libc6 (which is most packages) but may not do it by version which is what the issue will be |
| 17:33.29 | Axone | Ok, so I'll try with aptitude search |
| 17:34.03 | somiaj | Axone: if you only have stable and testing packages, and still have the testing repo |
| 17:34.09 | somiaj | aptitude search ~Atesting |
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| 17:34.16 | somiaj | actually aptitude search ~i~Atesting |
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| 17:34.47 | Axone | no result with both |
| 17:35.13 | somiaj | try jessie over testing |
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| 17:35.24 | somiaj | do you still have the testing repo in your sources.list and have apt-get update? |
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| 17:35.46 | Axone | No, I commented it and updated |
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| 17:36.12 | Axone | by fear of doing something bad again... |
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| 17:38.16 | Axone | Oh ok, so now I added the testing repo and updated. And aptitude search returned an endless list of packages |
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| 17:40.26 | somiaj | Axone: you did 'aptitude search ~i~Atesting' ? |
| 17:40.30 | Axone | Yes |
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| 17:43.14 | somiaj | hmm, I was hoping that would only list packges you have installed from testing, but it might list packages you have installed that are available in testing. I rember I did a downgrade and had to come up with something, but forget it right now |
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| 17:45.16 | somiaj | look at the package apt-show-versions it will list all the versions of hte packages you installed as package_name/repo version |
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| 17:46.09 | somiaj | okay found this on the wiki too |
| 17:46.11 | somiaj | aptitude search '?narrow(?installed, ?archive(testing) !?archive(stable))' |
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| 17:47.14 | Axone | Much shorter ! http://pastebin.com/969Gw5Wt |
| 17:47.38 | Axone | All in french but package is a package |
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| 17:48.22 | somiaj | at this point since it is four, get ahold of the wheezy .deb for each of those four packages and install them with dpkg wth 'dpkg -i package1.deb package2.deb package3.deb package4.deb' hopefully nothing will have a depends and break your system doing that |
| 17:49.15 | somiaj | why did you install the newer libc6, were you wanting to run some third party binary? Do you have any third party .deb's installed that could cause a conflict doing the downgrade? |
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| 17:50.23 | Axone | I wanted to run openscad and it wouldn't launch without libc6 2.17 |
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| 17:50.54 | somiaj | but it was just a binary you downloaded to run? YOu didn't install any .deb or thrid party packages for openscad? |
| 17:51.08 | somiaj | I just want to make sure that you don't get some depends loop/error when trying to downgrade this core package. |
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| 17:52.02 | Axone | It was a folder with a script to install it. But if it is just about this soft, I can do without it |
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| 17:52.55 | somiaj | well I have no clue and won't support some random script. But it sounds like it just copied the binaries (hopfully to /usr/local). Again I'm just not wanting you to try to downgrade libc6 and get dpkg erroing out because package foo depends on libc6 2.17 but the wheezy version is gonna be installed |
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| 17:55.05 | Axone | Yes, thank you for that, I nearly did apt-get remove libc6 before asking here... |
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| 17:55.27 | Axone | I remember this script spoke of /usr/local, yes |
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| 17:55.50 | somiaj | yea thrid party stuff can be installed in /usr/local just fine and not conflict with offical debian packages |
| 17:56.31 | somiaj | this random guy on irc says everything sounds fine. Just grab the wheezy .deb's and install them with dpkg -i would be my suggestion |
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| 17:57.04 | somiaj | you could try 'apt-get -t wheezy install libc6' and see if it pulls in all the right depends for you (after you remove testing from your sources.list again and apt-get update) if you want to try to do it with apt |
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| 17:57.29 | somiaj | but I would just download the .deb files and install with dpkg -i |
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| 17:58.43 | Axone | apt-get returns that libc6 is already the newest version available |
| 17:59.11 | Axone | I'll try with .deb files |
| 18:00.29 | Axone | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/libc6 is all good ? |
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| 18:03.50 | jelly-home | ,v libc6 |
| 18:03.51 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38; jessie: 2.17-93; sid: 2.17-93 |
| 18:04.11 | jelly-home | Axone: there is no 2.15 to downgrade to... |
| 18:04.56 | Axone | I said 2.15, but it was the default version of wheezy, so i was probably wrong |
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| 18:05.11 | Axone | 2.13-38 it must be |
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| 18:06.45 | jelly-home | !tell Axone about partial downgrade |
| 18:07.14 | jelly-home | Axone: remove everything but wheezy from the sources.list, first |
| 18:07.32 | Axone | done |
| 18:09.13 | dragonfly | ok, running a minimal Debian Wheezy install and using slim and openbox......previously, when I was running Squeeze, when I would log in, the slim background would disappear and I would be left with the openbox default grey, now, when I log in the slim background stays, the login box goes away, but if I press "F1" to 'select session' the session designator also stays on the screen when I log in......ideas? |
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| 18:10.42 | Axone | jelly-home and somiaj, thank you very much for your patience, I'll try all that and be careful |
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| 18:13.20 | dragonfly | hmmm, just found this out: If I log in and the session designator is still on the screen, if I open a window and put it over top of that designator, when i move the window away the designator disappears |
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| 18:14.32 | unkmar | I get the following Warning. |
| 18:14.35 | unkmar | WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! |
| 18:15.00 | mumpitze1 | !tell unkmar about bat |
| 18:15.03 | unkmar | I downloaded DVD isos and am attempting to use those. |
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| 18:16.32 | unkmar | That is mostly irrelivant. Lets say the package is irssi. or in one case it was vim-gnome or is that gnome-vim. eh, whatever. |
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| 18:17.35 | unkmar | These are standard packages that should be available on the dvd's. I had the brilliant idea to loop mount the iso's instead of burning a stack of dvd's to shuffle like a deck of cards. |
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| 18:18.55 | unkmar | From what I have read, I wrongly assumed that any key signature mess would have been included in the isos in a standard form. |
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| 18:19.53 | jhutchins | unkmar: Why do you think they aren't? |
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| 18:21.04 | unkmar | jhutchins: Info I've read. Possibly very old articles/forum postings/or manual entries. |
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| 18:21.55 | unkmar | I've read that cdrom's generally bypass the signature system by being loaded via CD. |
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| 18:26.01 | unkmar | jhutchins: https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#How_apt_uses_Release.gpg |
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| 18:26.24 | unkmar | specifically the party where is says, It's also worth noting. Just search for 'noting' |
| 18:26.58 | unkmar | or, I can just paste this one line: Also, Debian does not currently sign the Release files on its CDs; apt can be configured to always trust packages from CDs so this is not a large problem. |
| 18:28.25 | unkmar | I ran 'find ./ -name *.gpg' upon an mounted iso and found nothing. |
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| 18:39.23 | unkmar | alright, okay, so. I'll just assume the standard net install way is the only sane way to install stuff. Just go ahead and rely on the old internet to always be up for everything. Yep, derp, makes lots of since. |
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| 18:42.50 | unkmar | What does this mean? Ign file: wheezy Release.gpg |
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| 18:46.57 | unkmar | okay, I found it. |
| 18:47.25 | unkmar | this is more like what I was trying to find. http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/How-to-use-the-debian-installation-iso-for-installing-packages-using-aptitude-td3026058.html |
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| 18:51.28 | ws2k3 | Hello |
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| 18:51.34 | unkmar | hi |
| 18:51.38 | ws2k3 | can i keep php5.3 when i upgrade to weezy? |
| 18:51.47 | ws2k3 | wheezy |
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| 18:52.12 | ws2k3 | i'm currently on debian 6 |
| 18:52.37 | unkmar | ws2k3: not easily, from what I read. |
| 18:52.56 | ws2k3 | well my entire project is written in php4 and i dont wanne get in trouble |
| 18:53.15 | ws2k3 | anyway i can use apt-get install to install php5-fpm on debian 6 ? |
| 18:53.20 | ws2k3 | maby using backports? |
| 18:53.25 | unkmar | nope. |
| 18:53.39 | ws2k3 | okay |
| 18:53.48 | unkmar | I recently installed debian 7. Only to reinstall 6 for that very reason. |
| 18:53.48 | ws2k3 | so if i want php-fpm i realy need debian 7 |
| 18:54.02 | ws2k3 | you mean php 5.3? |
| 18:54.27 | petern_ | 5.4 breaks lots? |
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| 18:54.32 | unkmar | I think I was good with php 5.4 in debian 6. |
| 18:55.04 | unkmar | a few tweaks and I was good to go. Unfortunately some of those tweaks include registered_globals. Ugh. |
| 18:55.38 | petern_ | Hmm, so basically ancient PHP scripts that should've been updates years ago? :) |
| 18:55.42 | petern_ | -s+d |
| 18:57.52 | unkmar | petern_: in my case, yeah. I'm working on it. but and old modified version of osCommerce is a beast to update alone. |
| 18:58.09 | unkmar | s/and/an |
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| 19:21.36 | dxtr | So, I'm running Jessie and it does not automatically bring up my interfaces even though I |
| 19:21.48 | dxtr | So, I'm running Jessie and it does not automatically bring up my interfaces even though I've added them (well, it) to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:21.56 | dxtr | Have I accidentally removed something? |
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| 19:24.43 | mumpitze1 | dxtr: what is the content of your interfaces file? |
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| 19:26.56 | dxtr | Oh, I accidentally removed "auto eth0" |
| 19:26.58 | dxtr | Is that it? |
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| 19:27.34 | blubberdiblub | yes, the auto statement is for bringing up interfaces automatically at boot time |
| 19:27.39 | dxtr | Makes sense :) |
| 19:28.03 | blubberdiblub | indeed :) |
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| 19:31.23 | dragonfly | ok, I found it...I just needed to install x11-xserver-utils, for some reason it wasn't installed when I installed the rest of the X system |
| 19:31.25 | dxtr | Sorry for that obvious question :P My Debian-fu is a little... rusty |
| 19:32.44 | blubberdiblub | no need to be sorry :) |
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| 19:32.59 | blubberdiblub | that's what we're here for, to answer your debian questions ;) |
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| 19:39.19 | bbtech | I"m running the following command to execute a remote bash script |
| 19:39.21 | bbtech | wget -O - https://domain.com/remoteFile | bash /dev/stdin arg1 arg2 |
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| 19:39.39 | bbtech | But it is running in a non-interactive prompt (I can't do a readline). Anyone know a better way? |
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| 19:40.03 | unkmar | yeah, a semicolon. |
| 19:40.17 | bbtech | unkmar, ? |
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| 19:40.30 | unkmar | bbtech: put the download into a /tmp/file then execute and rm /tmp/file |
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| 19:41.00 | bbtech | unkmar, ah, I'm trying to avoid that as others will execute this script and I'm not sure I can guarantee write permission |
| 19:41.27 | unkmar | bbtech: its the /tmp directory. Last I knew, everyone has write permissions there. |
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| 19:41.48 | bbtech | unkmar, hmm |
| 19:42.25 | bbtech | unkmar, couldn't the /tmp be in different places? /var/tmp or not have any space? or be mapped to memory? |
| 19:42.26 | unkmar | there's even a bash command for generating random temp files. |
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| 19:42.58 | unkmar | granted, my bash is a little weak and I don't recall the command. but it does it exist. |
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| 19:43.19 | bbtech | I'm able to use the following command and get an interactive shell |
| 19:43.34 | bbtech | bash <(wget -O - http://domain.com/somefile) |
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| 19:43.40 | bbtech | but I don't know how to give it arguments |
| 19:44.40 | bbtech | unkmar, I'm concerned that using /tmp isn't robust enough. I may have to go with it but it is my last option. |
| 19:45.12 | unkmar | and yes, sometimes /tmp is in RAM. |
| 19:45.41 | bbtech | unkmar, my script is small so it would probably still work but I just don't like hard coded things |
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| 19:46.54 | jelly-home | bbtech: bash <(wget -O - ...) arg1 arg2 |
| 19:47.12 | bbtech | jelly, I'll try it. |
| 19:47.54 | jelly-home | pretty much the same as doing bash scriptfile arg1 arg2 |
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| 19:48.43 | bbtech | jelly-home, oh my I can't believe I didn't try that |
| 19:49.00 | bbtech | jelly-home, thank you for the help! saved me from hard coded /tmp :-) |
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| 19:55.12 | phy1729 | if you want to make an iptables rule for say 10.0.0.1-.3 would you make 3 rules with each ip one with CIDR one alone or just use iprange? |
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| 20:00.22 | jhutchins | phy1729: Pretty sure you can us a range but trying it or checking the man page is more reliable than my memory. |
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| 20:01.26 | cheri | hi I am using xen 4.1 on debian wheezy I am able to capture the multicast traffic on the host machine but not seeing it on the guest machine |
| 20:01.47 | cheri | can anyone tell me if I need to enable something to forward the multicast traffic |
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| 20:02.38 | Guest49297 | hi does anybody know how i can prevent wlan0 from autoconnecting |
| 20:03.13 | miwa | you can. |
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| 20:03.33 | jhutchins | Guest49297: Don't set it to autoconnect. |
| 20:03.40 | peter5 | cheri: I can't answer your question but just the basics: there are several ways to set up networking for a VM, so you'll probably need to tell us what you did for that. (bridge with a real nic on it? or host NAT or the like?) |
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| 20:04.17 | Guest49297 | jhutchins: i did, but it doesnt care |
| 20:05.02 | somiaj | Guest49297: what do you use to manage your wlan0 device? Network-manager? |
| 20:05.04 | Guest49297 | what do i need or where can i setup the interface |
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| 20:05.45 | Guest49297 | somiaj: via Network-Connections |
| 20:05.49 | poorrick | How am I supposed to burn a cd if every blank one I stick in the drive has a "read-only filesystem"? |
| 20:05.51 | cheri | peter5: yeah I bridged it |
| 20:06.01 | Guest49297 | and WICD manager |
| 20:06.14 | peter5 | cheri: ...and you're seeing the mcast traffic on the bridge device, or on the underlying eth device? |
| 20:06.15 | somiaj | Guest49297: then configure your wicd manager to not auto connect |
| 20:06.25 | cheri | yes I am able to see it |
| 20:06.27 | somiaj | poorrick: are you assuming you can just 'write files' to the cd with copy? |
| 20:06.35 | peter5 | cheri: not a yes/no question, an either/or question (: |
| 20:06.39 | poorrick | somiaj: I'm using dd |
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| 20:06.41 | somiaj | poorrick: you need to generate an iso image from genisofs, then burn that image onto the drive with wodim |
| 20:06.44 | Guest49297 | somiaj i did it too ofc -.- |
| 20:07.08 | poorrick | somiaj: how is wodim different from dd? |
| 20:07.09 | somiaj | poorrick: there are other tools you can use, those are the cli tools I use. |
| 20:07.30 | peter5 | poorrick: it's completely different. it sends very specialized commands to the CD drive, it isn't just sending data |
| 20:07.34 | somiaj | poorrick: dd just knows how to copy data, you need to tell the burner to burn the cd, which is slightly different. Don't know more than that |
| 20:07.56 | poorrick | OK, thanks guys, lessee how wodim works |
| 20:07.58 | cheri | I can see the mcast traiffc on th bridged device on the host machine |
| 20:08.50 | peter5 | cheri: so to make sure we're on the same page: if it's a bridge named br0 containing both eth0 and the VM NIC, you are seeing the traffic specifically on br0, not just on eth0 |
| 20:08.51 | somiaj | poorrick: there are gui front ends to wodim I belive. but if you have an .iso it is fairly straight forward. wodim use to be called 'cdrecord' |
| 20:09.05 | poorrick | somiaj |
| 20:09.08 | poorrick | blargh |
| 20:09.19 | poorrick | somiaj: I unfortunately only have ssh access |
| 20:09.29 | somiaj | then wodim will be what you want |
| 20:09.46 | poorrick | well unless I want lo lug out my monitor, but yeah |
| 20:10.05 | cheri | I am able to capture on eth1 as well as xenbr0 |
| 20:10.05 | peter5 | poorrick: this need for special software to write an image to a CD is why it's called 'burning' not just 'writing' or 'copying'. if it were just 'writing' or 'copying' like you can do with dd, cat, or cp, probably nobody would have ever come up with a special name for the process (: |
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| 20:10.16 | cheri | sorry its xenbr1 |
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| 20:10.27 | cheri | eth1 is bridged to xenbr1 |
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| 20:10.34 | Guest49297 | Where am i really able to configurate my interfaces?... not this gui bulls* pls |
| 20:11.15 | poorrick | peter5: I always just thought it was a M$ buzzword myself :/ |
| 20:11.18 | somiaj | Guest49297: if you don't want to use network-manager or wicd, you have to first disable/uninstall them, then you can use the old cli method which can be automated via the /etc/network/interfaces file |
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| 20:11.39 | Guest49297 | somiaj: k thx :) |
| 20:11.48 | somiaj | Guest49297: the issue is you do not want to configure the interfaces manually and have some tool trying to configure it at the same time (This causes conflicts). Pick a method and only use that method |
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| 20:12.01 | peter5 | cheri: does it help to put the guest's nic into promisc mode? I mean I don't _think_ that should be necessary (and it sounds like you know what you're doing so I suspect you've tried it), but.... Also I haven't used xen for quite awhile so I don't know what kinds of NIC devices it can emulate or provide - what does the nic look like on your guest? |
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| 20:12.26 | peter5 | Guest49297: the interfaces file is actually nicely documented in 'man interfaces' |
| 20:12.32 | peter5 | for some version of 'nicely' |
| 20:13.03 | Guest49297 | yay thx i know basic stuff but never got really into networking |
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| 20:14.03 | Guest49297 | probably the problem y i cant disable it in any gui cause it was setup in the installation of debian probably |
| 20:14.16 | somiaj | Guest49297: then you are experiecing a conflict |
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| 20:14.33 | somiaj | Guest49297: if you want to use the GUI method, remove all mention of the interface you want from the /etc/network/interfaces file |
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| 20:14.59 | useless-eater | flightgear in jessie misses executable. anyone knows where to get info on when it will be fixed? |
| 20:15.00 | cheri | peter5: I have not tried the promisc thing yet. I am too new to xen . lspci on the guest vm don't provide any info so I am not sure where to look at |
| 20:15.19 | rryoumaa | bbtech: jelly-home: last i checked is not defined where <( goes or where <<< goes (it used a temp file in /tmp sometimes, failing to respect $TMP; you can confirm this by using a fast loop) |
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| 20:15.51 | peter5 | cheri: probably it is paravirtualized so it wouldn't necessarily have a PCI device. but as I've said I haven't used xen in a really long time, way back in version 3.3 or so (v4 is quite different as I've heard) |
| 20:16.58 | cheri | peter5: ok I will try the promisc thing first and see if that helps |
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| 20:17.34 | bbtech | rryoumaa, fast loop? |
| 20:17.57 | rryoumaa | bbtech: keep making <<< calls, and keep checking the contents of /tmp |
| 20:18.12 | rryoumaa | it hardcoded /tmp last i checked :( |
| 20:18.12 | bbtech | rryoumaa, oh, good idea |
| 20:18.16 | poorrick | exit |
| 20:18.18 | poorrick | dammit |
| 20:18.36 | rryoumaa | which is a security violation in principle |
| 20:18.48 | bbtech | rryoumaa, why a security violation? |
| 20:19.00 | sary | cheri: have uou looked at https://wiki.debian.org/Xen , http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Network_Configuration_Examples_%28Xen_4.1%2B%29 |
| 20:19.18 | bbtech | rryoumaa, I assume it is still running under the users account? |
| 20:19.37 | rryoumaa | yes, but you might be sending around passwords (not that you should), or it might be spoofable via race condition, or you might be not wanting stuff on that partition |
| 20:19.37 | bbtech | doesn't really know how <( works |
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| 20:20.32 | peter5 | bah. so tcplay sets up a dm-crypt device with blocksize 4096 and X number of blocks. you'd think that would create a device of X*4096 bytes. But no, the total is X*512 bytes. |
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| 20:21.37 | rryoumaa | but in general, it would be better if bash were implemented such that TMP is respected, or at least there should be a BASHTMP |
| 20:21.38 | peter5 | the BLKSSZGET ioctl confirmst that blocksize is 4096 and BLKGETSIZE confirms that there are X blocks. But BLKGETSIZE64, which is supposed to be in bytes, returns X*512 |
| 20:21.44 | cheri | sary: I have not used the iptables to forward all traffic as I was able to connect to the Internet and other machines in the domain without any issues will try that |
| 20:22.42 | somiaj | useless-eater: have you checked the bts? |
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| 20:24.18 | icesword | hello |
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| 20:24.27 | sary | hi |
| 20:25.46 | icesword | i install debian got this kernel requries the following features not present on the cpu pae unabel to boot please use a kernel appropriate for your cpu, what;s up |
| 20:26.20 | useless-eater | somiaj: you mean this? http://bugs-search.debian.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi |
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| 20:28.52 | cheri | sary: tried the iptables forwarding rule but the problem still exists |
| 20:29.12 | icesword | http://qubuntu.blog.163.com/blog/static/195703121201192212147796/ |
| 20:29.23 | icesword | i meant this google helped me |
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| 20:31.27 | somiaj | useless-eater: yes, or you can do bugs.debian.org/flightgear |
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| 20:31.56 | somiaj | icesword: what cpu do you have? What kernel are you using? |
| 20:32.14 | somiaj | icesword: that seems like a strange error because if you were able to boot the installer it should be using the same kernel. |
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| 20:32.44 | icesword | i 3 2350 |
| 20:33.02 | somiaj | icesword: did you use the amd64 imgae (or for some reason though intel so got the ia64 image)? |
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| 20:33.06 | somiaj | icesword: is this for a virtual machine? |
| 20:33.36 | icesword | yep |
| 20:33.54 | somiaj | I asked you multiple questions, what one did you answer yes to? |
| 20:34.13 | icesword | latter |
| 20:34.14 | somiaj | I will assume you ment yes to the virtual machine, what install image/kernel are you trying to boot? |
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| 20:35.17 | icesword | 2.6 |
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| 20:36.16 | somiaj | I ment what arch was the kernel for? Also why are you installing squeeze and not wheezy? |
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| 20:36.50 | somiaj | could it be you are trying to boot and amd64 in a virtual machine while using a 32bit host? |
| 20:36.52 | icesword | it now boot for me |
| 20:37.01 | somiaj | [though I guess that isn't an issue with correct emulation] |
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| 20:37.09 | icesword | but the image didnt strech to the border |
| 20:37.19 | icesword | its on a laptop |
| 20:37.34 | gme | Hey folks, just installed debian on my laptop (from crunchbang) and I have an old integrated Intel GMA card. When outputting to dual display gnome tops out at 100%. Im googling jsut now but just curious if anyone has any tips? |
| 20:38.31 | somiaj | !crunchbang |
| 20:38.31 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
| 20:38.43 | Lady_Aleena | Is there a step by step installation manual with lots of images on the web anywhere? |
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| 20:39.05 | somiaj | gme: go get help from the distro of choice, namily crunchbang. For tech and social reasons we try to only support debian here. |
| 20:39.20 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: you mean besides the well written debian instalation manual? |
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| 20:39.51 | gme | somiaj: I have moved away from crunchbang and im running debian 7. |
| 20:40.15 | somiaj | then why did you say you just installed crunchbang? |
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| 20:40.42 | gme | somaij: " just installed debian on my laptop (previously had cruncbang)" |
| 20:40.43 | somiaj | what do you use to set up the dual display? |
| 20:41.00 | somiaj | What version of debian did you choose to install? Wheezy (7.1)? |
| 20:41.24 | gme | somaij: just inbuilt system settings. Mirrored is fine, any 2nd output to the other monitor and gnome goes to 99% cpu |
| 20:41.48 | Lady_Aleena | somiaj, you mean this imageless manual? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ |
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| 20:42.58 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: yes that manual. It is the suggested one to use. I also suggest you use the text installer over the gui one. (: |
| 20:43.33 | Lady_Aleena | somiaj, why? Is there a difference in install time? |
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| 20:44.12 | somiaj | the ncurses based installer is just nicer IMO. It not only is more mature, it gives you more options which is what I like. (: |
| 20:44.44 | somiaj | but I don't know of any third party manual that may suit your needs. The debian install manual is really good, but it is also really complete which can be a bit daunting to maybe your specific case. |
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| 20:44.58 | Lady_Aleena | Exactly. |
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| 20:46.32 | unkmar | apt-cdrom appears to be a fail. |
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| 20:47.00 | Lady_Aleena | Is the text installer friendly? |
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| 20:47.14 | unkmar | Lady_Aleena: yes. |
| 20:47.31 | somiaj | yea it asks you a series of questions, you can use your arrow keys to move around. |
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| 20:48.09 | somiaj | you may be able to find some screenshots and an unoffical guide on google, but we can't tell you the quality of such a thing |
| 20:48.28 | somiaj | unkmar: what is apt-cdrom failing to do? |
| 20:48.30 | Lady_Aleena | The questions aren't really technical are they, maybe just a lot of yeses and nos. |
| 20:49.24 | somiaj | they do require a little understand of the disk you want to install on and partitions (if you want to dual boot) |
| 20:49.32 | somiaj | but there is an option that says 'use the whole disk automatically' |
| 20:49.39 | sary | only on the partitioning step. |
| 20:49.42 | unkmar | somiaj: recognize 4 mount points. |
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| 20:50.40 | unkmar | somiaj: I don't wish to play the CD shuffle. |
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| 20:50.52 | sary | Lady_Aleena: have a glance www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovmSw2UheaA |
| 20:51.03 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: it more asks you what language you want, network info (this can be a pain due to non-free drivers not being included by default), what disk to install on, what timezone and what additional software. I think there is more, but those are the main ones I recall. |
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| 20:51.53 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: the partitioning bit gets rather technical |
| 20:52.05 | cusco | just use guided partitioninh |
| 20:52.08 | cusco | g |
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| 20:52.37 | jelly-home | cusco: does that still default to zillions of small separate mountpoints |
| 20:52.55 | cusco | ? not that I'm aware |
| 20:53.07 | cusco | I think it uses a separate /home as a default |
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| 20:54.33 | Lady_Aleena | watching video. |
| 20:54.35 | somiaj | it does use LVM though right? I personally avoid LVM but that is just me. |
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| 20:55.30 | silidan | is there any way to easily configure debian wheezy so that it mounts all usb drives with read/write/execute acess??? |
| 20:56.01 | cusco | doesn't gnome-volume-manager does that? |
| 20:56.22 | somiaj | well the problem is what the file system is on the drives, ext file system would not want to do that, while a vfat or ntfs one would |
| 20:56.23 | silidan | iit mounts it, but i cant set rights on files i copy there, they are fixed at 700 |
| 20:56.30 | silidan | or 600 |
| 20:56.45 | somiaj | that is probabaly because the file system if vfat or ntfs and we have to mimic unix like permisions on those file systems |
| 20:56.52 | Lady_Aleena | How long do you think Debian will take to reformat a 465 GB harddrive? |
| 20:56.54 | somiaj | nothing you can do there, if you want a true unix file system, put that on the usb |
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| 20:57.19 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: don't let it verify the whole thing, if there's a quick format option pick that |
| 20:57.22 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: depends on if you do encrypted partitions or not. Just initizling a new file system shouldn't take to long. Zeroing the disk first for security will. |
| 20:57.34 | unkmar | somiaj: This is what isn't working. It keeps looking at /dev/sr0 as the device. apt-cdrom -d /media/Debian1 |
| 20:57.49 | unkmar | and using -d=/media/Debian1 doesn't work either. |
| 20:57.59 | somiaj | unkmar: is it an actual cdrom or just an iso file? |
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| 20:58.18 | somiaj | unkmar: I think to use an iso file you have to set up enteries in fstab so apt-cdrom treats it like a cdrom |
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| 20:58.19 | unkmar | It's an iso file listed in /etc/fstab |
| 20:58.33 | silidan | somiaj: did exactly that still the same |
| 20:58.36 | somiaj | I have ot go, not sure what to best suggest, I thought it would work if loop back and mousted correctly |
| 20:58.55 | unkmar | somiaj: well, it isn't. :( |
| 20:58.58 | somiaj | silidan: did you reformat the whole drive with ext4 filesystem...but I got to go |
| 20:59.00 | somiaj | unkmar: :( |
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| 20:59.14 | silidan | somiaj: no i created a separate partition on it |
| 21:00.50 | silidan | the most annoying part is i cant even set the rights on the drive with root |
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| 21:01.16 | Lady_Aleena | jelly-home and somiaj, I want my hard drive completely wiped. I want nothing of Microsoft left on my computer. |
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| 21:01.22 | silidan | where can i configure the automount behaviour of debian wheezy? |
| 21:01.32 | silidan | with standard gnome 3 install |
| 21:02.04 | silidan | Lady_Aleena: if you do that pls dont rely on debian, it tends to FUCK things up. |
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| 21:02.48 | Lady_Aleena | silidan, how does debian much things up when it comes to wiping the hard drive? |
| 21:02.57 | Lady_Aleena | s/much/muck/; |
| 21:02.59 | unkmar | silidan: System settings -> Removable Media |
| 21:03.28 | silidan | unkmar: there is no such thing |
| 21:03.29 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Ignore the troll. |
| 21:03.41 | unkmar | silidan: sorry, I should have started with Activities -> Applications -> System Settings |
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| 21:04.22 | Lady_Aleena | jbutchins, so I CAN trust debian with wiping my hard drive before installing? |
| 21:04.32 | porton | Can Aptitude show a flat list of installed packages? |
| 21:04.41 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Certainly. |
| 21:04.45 | mumpitze1 | porton: no. dpkg can |
| 21:04.49 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: in that case, prepare to wait for about the time required to write the whole drive |
| 21:04.52 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: One of the options is to repartition and format the drive. |
| 21:05.02 | unkmar | silidan: Still didn't find it? |
| 21:05.08 | silidan | unkmar: no there is no such thing in the system settings |
| 21:05.16 | porton | mumpitze1: Which dpkg flags to show descriptions of all installed packages? |
| 21:05.20 | mumpitze1 | Lady_Aleena: if you want to wipe, you need to wait around 2h for it to finish |
| 21:05.23 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: I like to do manual partitioning with a single data partition and swap, but the automatic partition is ok. |
| 21:05.34 | mumpitze1 | porton: dpkg -l | grep ^ii |
| 21:05.35 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: It will ask if you want to preserve Windows, just tell it no. |
| 21:05.37 | unkmar | sorry, I forgot. System Settings -> Details |
| 21:06.08 | Lady_Aleena | I will be reformatting, should I partition? (I've partitioned a hard drive before, but it drove me nuts.) |
| 21:06.16 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: What Jelly is talking about is doing a hard wipe for encryption or something. |
| 21:06.17 | silidan | unkmar: did you ever look at that dialog yourself? |
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| 21:06.40 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: I think you can just trust the installer and follow the prompts. |
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| 21:06.58 | jelly-home | should probably be ignored as he has not used the basic installer mode in a long, long time |
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| 21:07.06 | unkmar | silidan: Activities -> Applications -> System Settings -> Details -> Removable Media. |
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| 21:07.15 | unkmar | yes, I've looked at it 3 times now. |
| 21:07.33 | silidan | unkmar: in this dialog i can set software for audio, video, andwhatnot, but i see nothign that indicates how i can make it to automount the drives with read/write acess... |
| 21:08.03 | Lady_Aleena | I'm just scared I'm going to really screw up and not have the use of this computer for a while. |
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| 21:08.19 | unkmar | silidan: oh, rw access. Didn't see that part of your question. Thought you wanted to shut off the helpful automount. |
| 21:08.55 | silidan | Lady_Aleena: you should have a live dvd ubuntu/debian whatever at hand with which you can also use the internet... that way no matter what you do to your harddrive you at least can use part of your system |
| 21:09.33 | Lady_Aleena | silidan, the live DVD has a web browser? |
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| 21:09.54 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: The full install disks are live disks, so if you use one of those you can always boot with it. |
| 21:10.00 | icesword | !hardware requirements |
| 21:10.09 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Also, you can install debian dual-boot with windows and then remove windows later. |
| 21:10.11 | unkmar | I've never had a Live debian disk work. :( |
| 21:10.18 | silidan | Lady_Aleena: well the ubuntu one does.. |
| 21:11.02 | icesword | ok is 768M RAM enough for debian |
| 21:11.12 | mumpitze1 | icesword: plenty |
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| 21:11.22 | icesword | :O? |
| 21:11.29 | Lady_Aleena | jbutchins, right now, I am so fed up with Microsoft products and other software which depend on Microsoft products, I could just scream. Just today I found out my sound system is wonky with no way to fix it through the software. |
| 21:11.56 | mumpitze1 | icesword: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en |
| 21:12.11 | icesword | ok |
| 21:12.24 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Well, Linux isn't perfect, and sometimes you have to fix things, but since we know how it's put together it's easier to fix. |
| 21:12.35 | unkmar | I had one where my sound could be turned off from Windows and couldn't turn it on from linux. |
| 21:12.37 | Lady_Aleena | Supposedly my left front speaker is my left rear speaker meaning the whole left channel is not playing! |
| 21:12.41 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: There is some hardware that just won't work, but most average systems work fine. |
| 21:13.15 | silidan | Lady_Aleena: i understand, but look at me, im using debian now for quite a while 2 years, and i can say, every now and then it makes the most easy task near to impossible to achieve.. |
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| 21:13.59 | jhutchins | On the other hand, I haven't owned a Windows system since 2004 until this year, and the only reason I've turned it on this year is to update Windows. |
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| 21:15.00 | jhutchins | If you want to run pirated windows 3D games you sometimes get disappointed, but most everyday tasks are easier. |
| 21:15.51 | silidan | jhutchins: except for pluging in usb drives and using them |
| 21:16.52 | Lady_Aleena | I have a Creative Audigy Audio Processor, ATI (?), and other things I hope debian has drivers for like my Microsoft Keyboard and Mouse (I loathe Microsoft software, love the peripheral hardware.) |
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| 21:18.59 | Lady_Aleena | I'm hoping browsers for Debian stream videos better than browser for Windows. |
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| 21:19.19 | silidan | Lady_Aleena: debian multimedia, youtube and such horror |
| 21:19.23 | jhutchins | silidan: Yeah, except I know how to use google so that's no problem for me. I can even mount different drives on the same port with custom options on each drive. |
| 21:19.42 | silidan | jhutchins: nice for you, how can i do that? |
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| 21:20.01 | unkmar | Lady_Aleena: that is an awful reason to use debian. |
| 21:20.12 | jhutchins | silidan: What, use google? |
| 21:20.25 | silidan | jhutchins: no, how to use my usb drive |
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| 21:20.54 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: That hardware shouldn't be a problem, and I haven't hit any problems with streaming video for five or six years. |
| 21:21.13 | Lady_Aleena | unkmar, my computer with Windows XP is so slow it isn't funny anymore. Even the simplest programs take more than a few seconds to load. |
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| 21:21.41 | silidan | jhutchins: you lie, ive had problems with steraming youtube vides everytime youtube updated to newer flash version and adobe plugin was broken and free didnt work |
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| 21:22.31 | jhutchins | silidan: I wonder if there's a reason why you have all these problems, but there are over a thousand users here who don't, including me. |
| 21:22.37 | silidan | besides going fullscreen on youtube videos makes them slow... like low frame rate... |
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| 21:23.13 | silidan | i wonder taht myself... its a plain install, this one escpecially is quite new and 33 bit... after the ightmare with 64bit and flash... |
| 21:23.22 | silidan | 32 |
| 21:23.24 | silidan | bit |
| 21:24.20 | sary | silidan: blame it on adobe flash! use gnash or stream 'em in webm . |
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| 21:26.32 | sary | see if this link gives you a streaming issue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovmSw2UheaA&webm=1 |
| 21:26.34 | silidan | sary: yea but the point is gnash did not work when youtube updated to never version... |
| 21:26.53 | hiyo | Is there a way that I can install some software and configure debian to have a pfSense sort of setup? |
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| 21:27.54 | silidan | sry, no more time, if its broken and your short on time... windows, as sad as it is.... im pissed |
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| 21:51.53 | Almtesh | Salut tout le monde. |
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| 21:52.11 | Almtesh | J'ai actuellement un debian wheezy dans un bureau xfce. |
| 21:52.22 | Almtesh | Je souhaite monter des disques en ntfs. |
| 21:52.24 | jelly-home | !fr |
| 21:52.24 | dpkg | Pour l'aide en francais, veuillez rejoindre le canal #debian-fr. Francophone users: for help in french, please go to #debian-fr. |
| 21:52.39 | Almtesh | Yes, I just noticed that. |
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| 21:52.51 | Almtesh | And no, they are not here, for the moment. |
| 21:53.19 | Almtesh | I said: |
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| 21:53.31 | Almtesh | "Hello everyone." |
| 21:54.03 | Almtesh | "I currently have a debian wheezy with a xfce desktop." |
| 21:54.19 | Almtesh | "I'd like to mount disks in ntfs." |
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| 21:54.38 | Almtesh | And I was about to say, "How can I manage that?". |
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| 21:55.58 | Sary | hi, #see https://wiki.debian.org/NTFS |
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| 21:56.34 | bloup | Hey, I am trying to install teamviewer 7 on Debian, but teamviewer depends on lib32asound2. I can't install this |
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| 21:56.55 | bloup | It seems like lib32asound2 is no longer in the repos (I am running jessie) |
| 21:57.06 | bloup | anyone know of a workaround? |
| 21:57.12 | Almtesh | Sary, yes, I saw. |
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| 21:57.45 | Sevet | bloup: 32bit libs were replaced by multiarch |
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| 21:57.58 | Sevet | !tell bloup about multiarch |
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| 21:58.04 | Almtesh | Sary, actually, I want to mount the disk without knowing this is a ntfs disk. |
| 21:58.24 | Sevet | try installing the i386 package, you may need to create and install a dummy package to satisfy a package requirement |
| 21:59.03 | Almtesh | I want to setup the OS for automatic mount for non-computer people. |
| 21:59.15 | Sary | Almtesh: automount you mean! |
| 21:59.31 | frikinz | Isn't there a way nowadays to know which packages were not installed from repo listed in sources.list? doing a while on apt-cache policy is .. hacky :) |
| 21:59.42 | Almtesh | Sary, yes, sort of. |
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| 22:00.10 | Almtesh | Sary, if automount is "you click and it's mounted with no error". |
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| 22:01.20 | Almtesh | Sary, better than that, I can mount extfs and fat without problem, but not ntfs. |
| 22:01.35 | jelly-home | frikinz: not really, but see /msg dpkg not available |
| 22:02.08 | frikinz | jelly-home: yes that was this one simple command eh |
| 22:02.25 | unkmar | I'm stuck in Media Change hell. |
| 22:02.33 | Sary | right! well, Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices, so you'll need to set permission read/write for those users. |
| 22:02.33 | jelly-home | Almtesh: installing ntfs-3g used to help |
| 22:02.44 | unkmar | Its either that or suffer the interweb speeds. |
| 22:02.49 | Almtesh | jelly-home, ntfs-3g is indeed installed. |
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| 22:04.05 | Almtesh | jelly-home, it tells me that "Unpriviliged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE library." |
| 22:04.17 | unkmar | disk |
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| 22:04.52 | jelly-home | Almtesh: yeah, hence "used to" |
| 22:05.37 | Almtesh | jelly-home, I can't even understand what goes wrong. |
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| 22:06.15 | Sary | Almtesh: are you able to mount it in CLI! |
| 22:06.34 | unkmar | I just want to use my iso as my main repos. I don't get it. sure, I added them via apt-cdrom and.. dang thing feels the data must be at /dev/sr0 or /media/cdrom. Thus, preventing me from having 4 mounted DVDs available. |
| 22:06.34 | Almtesh | jelly-home, I can mount vfat, and I'm still a "unpriviliged user". |
| 22:06.39 | joelmo | there is a ubuntu share at my school i can access via ssh, i am allowed to store 300 MB there, fusermount is available, can i use this to get some extra storage, like a fs provided over ssh? someone told me in the ubuntu channell that im restricted to 300 mb so even if i mount a fs with more this wont help, but if i can use something that takes advantage of the tempfs, will this work? or count for my quota also? |
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| 22:07.19 | Almtesh | Sary, yes, I can. |
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| 22:07.49 | xand | joelmo: ask #ubuntu |
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| 22:08.44 | Almtesh | joelmo, yes, of course, why do you want that's not like that. |
| 22:08.53 | jelly-home | Almtesh: the author of ntfs-3g and debian maintainers disagree in some technical details, leading to ntfs-3g being slightly unusable for non-root |
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| 22:09.06 | Sary | Almtesh: which DE you're using! |
| 22:09.17 | xand | joelmo: anyway quotas are per-filesystem |
| 22:09.20 | Almtesh | jelly-home, what? |
| 22:09.26 | Almtesh | Sary, xfce. |
| 22:10.30 | jelly-home | Almtesh: so, the current ntfs-3g doesn't work when being built the debian way. It used to work. |
| 22:11.09 | jelly-home | I don't have any ntfs nearby to check for a workaround, sorry |
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| 22:12.09 | Sary | Almtesh: perhaps there is a policy issue with whatever tool in xfce that handles Volume/devices, or you are not in the plugdev & fuse groups! |
| 22:12.17 | icesword | http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/amd-catalyst-13.4-linux-x86.x86_64.zip |
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| 22:13.46 | Almtesh | Sary, I was in plugdev, but not fuse, I'm rebooting and testing now. |
| 22:13.52 | Sary | Almtesh: have you installed Debian from a USB! |
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| 22:15.01 | Almtesh | Sary, yes, from my phone, why? |
| 22:15.20 | Almtesh | Sary, tested, does not work. |
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| 22:16.06 | Sary | Almtesh: You've installed Debian from a USB media! is that correct? |
| 22:16.35 | Almtesh | Sary, yes. |
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| 22:16.47 | Almtesh | Sary, it was my phone. |
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| 22:17.00 | Almtesh | Sary, is that a problem? |
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| 22:19.07 | Sary | Almtesh: Alright, please run # cat /etc/fstab | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us |
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| 22:20.40 | Almtesh | Sary, curl? |
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| 22:22.59 | Sary | Almtesh: you could install curl and run the above command or just run # cat /etc/fstab , see if there is a line at the end that looks like the one in here http://sprunge.us/ZUIV |
| 22:23.31 | Sary | if so, remove tha last line,reboot! than see how it goes. |
| 22:23.43 | Almtesh | Sary, I've used wget instead. |
| 22:24.21 | Almtesh | Sary, http://sprunge.us/UOPG |
| 22:25.41 | Sary | Almtesh: can you run # cat /etc/fstab |
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| 22:26.31 | Almtesh | Sary, my fault, try http://sprunge.us/IBVf |
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| 22:28.01 | partitionproblem | hi |
| 22:28.03 | Sary | Almtesh: still missing the whole output! |
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| 22:28.05 | Sary | hi |
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| 22:28.31 | Sary | Almtesh: just run cat /etc/fstab |
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| 22:29.12 | Almtesh | http://sprunge.us/ciTj |
| 22:29.39 | partitionproblem | just finished to install debian with encrypted partitions, but now how can i copy the boot partition on a mini SD so that i can boot from there? |
| 22:29.47 | Almtesh | Sary, that's the whole uncommented part. |
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| 22:30.20 | Almtesh | partitionproblem, can you boot? |
| 22:30.26 | frikinz | jelly-home: thanks again, I spotted the package which was creating illegal instructions on my pi. this package was coming from debian.org (arch mismatch) |
| 22:30.32 | Sary | Almtesh: alright, remove the last 2 lines. Do you know how to do that?! |
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| 22:31.32 | Almtesh | Sary, the two lines about the sr0 and sr1, they are useless. |
| 22:31.36 | partitionproblem | almtesh: yes |
| 22:31.38 | Lope | I want to get the sources.list from dpkg but its not replying |
| 22:31.43 | Lope | ./msg dpkg wheezy sources.list |
| 22:31.54 | partitionproblem | i'm in |
| 22:32.38 | Almtesh | partitionproblem, ah, OK. |
| 22:32.41 | jelly-home | !wheezy sources.list |
| 22:32.41 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
| 22:32.43 | wolfmitchell | If I'm using a kernel from the repos, how would I get the kernel's .config file? |
| 22:33.04 | wolfmitchell | I want to build a kernel exactly like the running one because I keep having panics... |
| 22:33.10 | wolfmitchell | so I need to set up lkcd |
| 22:33.16 | epsilon | check /boot |
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| 22:34.19 | wolfmitchell | epsilon, those are the kernel binaries but not the kernel configs |
| 22:34.45 | partitionproblem | Almtesh: is it ok if i create a partition on the SD card with == size of /boot partition and then i run grub-install /dev/theSDdevice ? is that enough? |
| 22:34.46 | epsilon | usualy you copy /boot/config-<BLA> to <kernelsource/.config and run make oldconfig |
| 22:34.48 | Lope | weird. yesterday I installed squeeze and it was missing some of the repos in the sources list. today I installed wheezy and it has the same problem. |
| 22:35.06 | Almtesh | Sary, it works, thanks you, and jelly-home. Good night! |
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| 22:36.35 | partitionproblem | Almtesh: *(grub-install after i've dumped /boot partition to the partition on the SD card, using dd) |
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| 22:39.07 | partitionproblem | jelly-home: why ? dpkg bot says "debian.net" for tne source.list. Isnt it "debian.org" ? |
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| 22:41.31 | KaffeeJunky123 | Hi, I'm expiriencing crashes of gpg when I try to encrypt a message with gpg -e, it outputs strange characters to the terminal when I should be prompted to enter the message to be encrypted. Any ideas how I could investigate the issue? |
| 22:44.31 | epsilon | partitionproblem: default should be ftp.<countrycode>.debian.org, or any mirror of your most minimal mistrust |
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| 23:51.08 | waqstar | I have a small problem. I am running ESXi with just 2 IP's, 1 management and 1 for the VM's. So I installed ClearOS to act as a router and route all trafic through the 1 public address. I have debian installed on another VM but cannot seem to ping out, I can only ping to addresses and not domains. All other VM's have no issues, just this Debian box. Help please :) |
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| 23:52.46 | LewisBlack | hi |
| 23:52.50 | LewisBlack | how to reconfigure apache2 |
| 23:52.57 | LewisBlack | so that it installs default /etc/apache2 |
| 23:53.04 | waqstar | I am using 8.8.8.8 as dns servers on all boxes! |
| 23:53.10 | LewisBlack | tried purge, dpkg-reconfigure, nothing works |
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| 23:57.54 | waqstar | Nevermind, the resolv.conf file was missing! Dont remember deleting.. |
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