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| 00:11.21 | MrMonkey13 | hey #openhatch |
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| 00:14.15 | unkmar | I still don't see how to do it. Use iso's as repositories without authentication warnings. |
| 00:15.06 | phix | unkmar: ? just do it |
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| 00:15.53 | phix | install the gpg key of the packagrs you are installing and you wont get auth issues |
| 00:16.33 | nsgn | goodevening. is it possible to run firefox directly in an X session without having a desktop env running? say if i type "DISPLAY=:0 firefox" at the command line i get a nice blank black screen. obviously X is up but it doesnt seem to actually run the program. |
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| 00:16.41 | nsgn | I have the program itself tested and running when I do bring up the desktop |
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| 00:17.11 | phix | gpg keys are usually in a package themself, so onstall that one first |
| 00:17.27 | phix | nsgn: morning |
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| 00:17.53 | nsgn | phix, howdy |
| 00:18.32 | phix | g'day |
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| 00:18.51 | nsgn | essentially i just want to display a webpage full screen upon startup of this computer without having a full desktop running or any other fuss |
| 00:19.00 | nsgn | its just connected to a screen as a heads up display |
| 00:19.09 | unkmar | He wants a kiosk. |
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| 00:19.32 | nsgn | unkmar, yes, except i dont even care for mouse/keyboard input once its up. doesnt have to be blocked, but ittl never be used |
| 00:19.37 | nsgn | a wall display more than a kiosk |
| 00:21.49 | unkmar | I give up. I'll just delete the d*** iso's and use the d*** internet for all my slow a** installing. |
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| 00:22.19 | unkmar | takes longer but is a lot less headache. |
| 00:22.40 | unkmar | and I can't stand this gnome-3 interface. |
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| 00:22.58 | unkmar | I'm trying to get to like it. Feels about as natural as windows 8. |
| 00:23.10 | phix | unkmar: |
| 00:23.32 | phix | what error are you getting |
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| 00:24.16 | unkmar | Currently I get this: Media change: Please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-2 20130615-23:06' into the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press [Enter]. |
| 00:25.01 | phix | nsgn: i see |
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| 00:26.03 | phix | unkmar: so get rid of the cd entrirs in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:26.06 | dvs | unkmar: Then yeah, comment out the cdrom line out of your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:26.11 | Sary | unkmar: remove that line from your sources.list . |
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| 00:26.20 | dvs | you're all wrong! ;-<0 |
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| 00:27.55 | unkmar | Okay, now I get this: WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! |
| 00:27.58 | unkmar | Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security. |
| 00:28.01 | unkmar | You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that |
| 00:28.03 | unkmar | this is what you want to do. |
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| 00:29.46 | unkmar | of course, I can type "Yes" everytime I install *Anything* |
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| 00:30.41 | unkmar | I just want to be able to loop mount those iso and use them as my primary repo. |
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| 00:31.09 | asterismo | any user of lil debi in android? cyanogenmod10? |
| 00:31.44 | phix | unkmar: no install the package that has the gpg keys first |
| 00:31.47 | phix | no = now |
| 00:31.48 | asterismo | anyway to get debian.img larger than 4GB or anyway to get lil debi to access ext2 mounted partition in android? |
| 00:32.03 | unkmar | phix: really. |
| 00:32.10 | unkmar | phix: you mean that keyring thing? |
| 00:32.13 | phix | yes |
| 00:32.44 | unkmar | phix: this one? "i debian-archive-keyring " It's already installed!!!! |
| 00:32.51 | phix | debian-keyring debian-archive-keyring |
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| 00:33.30 | phix | unkmar: depends what package you are trying to install, do you just have the debian CDs or the debian multimedia or edu debian? |
| 00:34.17 | unkmar | DVDs |
| 00:34.32 | unkmar | phix: all 4 DVDs 1,2,3 and update. |
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| 00:35.29 | phix | unkmar: ok |
| 00:35.32 | Sary | unkmar: seems like there was no internet access during the installation! |
| 00:35.39 | phix | so install the latest keyring package and you will be set |
| 00:36.14 | Sary | !tell unkmar about wheezy sources.list |
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| 00:36.28 | Sary | !sources.list wheezy |
| 00:37.02 | Sary | !wheezy sources.list |
| 00:37.05 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
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| 00:39.40 | unkmar | that doesn't appear to have worked either. I uncommented my Internet repos, did update, safe-upgrade, then recommented the Internet repos, did update, and still get the warning when attempting to install irssi. |
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| 00:40.26 | themill | unkmar: what's the output of "apt-cache policy irssi; apt-cache policy" |
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| 00:42.05 | Sary | unkmar: rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/* # apt-get update , please paste your sources.list |
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| 00:43.07 | unkmar | http://paste.debian.net/56463/ |
| 00:44.12 | dvs | !ftp.debian.org |
| 00:44.12 | dpkg | ftp.debian.org is not the principal mirror for Debian. It is just one mirror that uses bandwidth that was donated to the Debian project; you are kindly requested not to use this mirror but to instead use a mirror that is closer to you, ask me about <mirrors>. See http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror#wherefrom for more information. |
| 00:46.31 | unkmar | http://paste.debian.net/56465/ the last 2 lines I'm flipping back and forth. |
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| 00:47.59 | unkmar | I'm sure it won't give me an error if I just let it use tne internet for every install. |
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| 00:52.12 | unkmar | I'm still here if you guys think of anything else to try. |
| 00:52.27 | asterismo | anyone? |
| 00:52.30 | asterismo | lil debi? |
| 00:52.54 | unkmar | asterismo: not me. :( |
| 00:54.12 | themill | asterismo: you might like to explain what "lil debi" is. We support debian here... |
| 00:54.36 | asterismo | maybe someone knows the appropriate channel for lil debi |
| 00:55.03 | themill | unkmar: you could add trusted=yes to those lines for the sources.list. Given they are DVD images I assume you feel you can trust them. |
| 00:55.13 | themill | unkmar: (see sources.list(5) for the syntax) |
| 00:55.25 | asterismo | https://guardianproject.info/2011/06/18/easy-installer-for-debian-on-android/ |
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| 00:56.44 | unkmar | themill: so, that would be an option at the end of the line? |
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| 00:57.39 | themill | unkmar: iirc "cdrom" lines in apt are implicitly trusted while "file:" lines are not. |
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| 00:58.13 | unkmar | themill: that is what I've been reading as well. Haven't yet figured out how the trusted=yes works. :( |
| 00:59.07 | themill | deb [trusted=yes] file://… |
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| 00:59.18 | unkmar | so it goes before file. |
| 00:59.53 | themill | yeah, sources.list(5) calls them "options" |
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| 01:01.21 | unkmar | hugs themill |
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| 01:02.09 | unkmar | I just couldn't figure out the placement and syntax of the options. Also, didn't know that one existed. Thank you. That solves hours of pain. |
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| 01:03.11 | unkmar | Guess I just needed to wait until the right guru was available. |
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| 01:05.21 | elkingrey | I'm knew to using unrar. I'm trying to unrar a bunch of videos and some are working, while others are failing. Any ideas why? |
| 01:05.24 | elkingrey | http://pastebin.com/62LN0PTG |
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| 01:13.22 | jordilopezamat1 | dear #debian community |
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| 01:14.33 | jordilopezamat1 | newbie here... is there any potential issue when installing firefox when iceweasel is already in my wheezy ? thanks beforehand |
| 01:14.43 | jordilopezamat1 | (my guess is no, but just in case... ) |
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| 01:15.24 | icesword | hello |
| 01:15.51 | icesword | WHAT'S the command to launch terminal? GUYS |
| 01:15.55 | unkmar | jordilopezamat1: eh, yeah. I think so. Not a major issue tho. |
| 01:16.08 | icesword | help |
| 01:16.10 | unkmar | icesword: which terminal? |
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| 01:16.32 | icesword | gnome-terminal |
| 01:16.34 | unkmar | icesword: xterm, gnome-terminal? |
| 01:16.53 | icesword | what command |
| 01:16.56 | unkmar | or are you talking about a keyboard shortcut? |
| 01:17.05 | icesword | no |
| 01:17.26 | icesword | how to use that terminal |
| 01:17.31 | unkmar | it is gnome-terminal. |
| 01:18.01 | icesword | just like winkey +R, then i type what |
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| 01:18.21 | unkmar | I just told you. gnome-terminal |
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| 01:18.38 | icesword | i don't see that app how to launch it |
| 01:18.47 | unkmar | Then it is just called terminal |
| 01:18.56 | MrMonkey13 | icesword: can you create a launcher? |
| 01:19.04 | unkmar | and win+R isn't working for me. |
| 01:19.50 | icesword | i cant |
| 01:20.30 | MrMonkey13 | hm. that was my best idea! |
| 01:20.38 | icesword | then how to launch terminal , first what short key short key should i hit |
| 01:20.46 | unkmar | It is called terminal in the search window under applications. |
| 01:20.50 | NotJimCarrey | Run hotkey is probably Alt+F2 |
| 01:21.17 | unkmar | NotJimCarrey: that workd for me. Alt+F2 and then gnome-terminal |
| 01:21.22 | NotJimCarrey | yup |
| 01:21.49 | unkmar | that lets me use my preferred xterm. Okay, I might be a little saddistic. :P |
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| 01:22.04 | Sary | icesword: are you referring to a virtual/console terminal (tty ..)! |
| 01:22.16 | NotJimCarrey | I prefer Terminator myself |
| 01:22.22 | icesword | hot key works but command not work |
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| 01:22.49 | themill | unkmar: no worries |
| 01:22.53 | unkmar | icesword: gnome-terminal not working? |
| 01:23.19 | icesword | yes didnt |
| 01:23.26 | NotJimCarrey | icesword: Alt+F2, synaptic |
| 01:23.32 | unkmar | you could try out xterm. |
| 01:23.43 | NotJimCarrey | search for gnome terminal and make sure its installed |
| 01:23.49 | NotJimCarrey | or xterm |
| 01:23.56 | NotJimCarrey | or terminator, kterm, etc |
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| 01:24.18 | unkmar | He should just do a search for term and see what shakes out. |
| 01:24.41 | icesword | mmm it worked i made typos gnone-terminal … |
| 01:24.51 | unkmar | do we have a hotkey for the search window? |
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| 01:25.22 | icesword | ctrl+F |
| 01:25.24 | unkmar | yeah, gnome-terminal isn't exactly a short command. I believe you could make an alias gt or something. |
| 01:26.39 | NotJimCarrey | yes, in ~/.bashrc |
| 01:27.09 | jordilopezamat | thanks unkmar |
| 01:27.17 | NotJimCarrey | alias gt=gnome-terminal |
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| 01:28.13 | unkmar | jordilopezamat: sorry, I didn't expand on it. They both use the .mozilla folder and I think by default firefox is an alias to iceweasel. |
| 01:29.04 | unkmar | the .mozilla folder is likely not much of an issue. likely different default profiles and such. It was the alias I assumed might cause a problem. |
| 01:29.20 | icesword | ok |
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| 01:29.41 | icesword | how do you excute some file? |
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| 01:30.24 | unkmar | icesword: eh. several ways. is it a bash script? has it been given execute permission? Is it in path? |
| 01:30.48 | unkmar | icesword: in other words. what kind of file? |
| 01:30.59 | icesword | don't know its not in path |
| 01:31.27 | icesword | something.run |
| 01:32.12 | unkmar | icesword: Hmm. yeah, usually double click from a file manager assuming it has a exec permission set. |
| 01:32.28 | unkmar | from a prompt you would do ./something.run |
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| 01:32.57 | unkmar | icesword: assuming you are in the same folder with it. |
| 01:33.19 | unkmar | icesword: /some/path/something.run otherwise. |
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| 01:33.27 | peterrooney | ever since discovering tab completion, I have not complained about the length of a command - only its similarity to other commands. |
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| 01:34.28 | rryoumaa | adduser and useradd are pretty confusing |
| 01:34.31 | icesword | okay got another way, attribute it to executable, then run it as admin |
| 01:34.45 | unkmar | again, those require execute. permission. if you know that is bash, sh, perl, pyton or some other interpreted language. You can call it as a parameter. bash something.run perl something.run |
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| 01:35.00 | unkmar | why admin? |
| 01:35.00 | waqstar | Hello! I have changed the default port of ssh. I have reloaded ssh and restarted. I get a connection refused error when trying to connect. Can you help |
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| 01:35.21 | unkmar | waqstar: ssh -p newport server |
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| 01:36.24 | waqstar | unkmar: tried that. with the default port 22 I can connect. But after changing the port its still listening on 22. Output of netstat -tulpn shows :22 |
| 01:36.26 | unkmar | waqstar: faster test is. ssh -p newport localhost from the same machine. |
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| 01:36.54 | waqstar | I get connection refused on newport! |
| 01:37.04 | unkmar | waqstar: you sure you restarted the server then? |
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| 01:37.47 | unkmar | This isn't the debian way but... sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
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| 01:38.26 | unkmar | waqstar: I don't mean reboot the machine. Just the ssh. I think the new way is services ssh restart |
| 01:38.53 | nsgn | still can't seem to get the trick here. trying to run firefox in an X session without the desktop env running. Just firefox on screen, period |
| 01:39.12 | waqstar | unkmar: I executed: service ssh reload, service ssh restart |
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| 01:39.31 | unkmar | waqstar: I was close. service ssh restart |
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| 01:39.52 | unkmar | waqstar: did it give an error when you restarted the service? |
| 01:39.56 | icesword | bad news! in terminal whenever i try to do a tab autocomplete something, i heard a noise from the HDD, does debian hate to be in a vm of a laptop? |
| 01:39.58 | waqstar | Shall I reboot the server alltogether!? That wont help I think Ive restarted it |
| 01:40.37 | unkmar | waqstar: that isn't neccessary and won't help. |
| 01:40.53 | waqstar | unkmar: Nope, it reloads fine and the config file states the new port. Is there another ssh config file? the one i changed in is /etc/ssh/ssh_config |
| 01:41.27 | waqstar | lol yes! service ssh restart nowadays! |
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| 01:41.48 | unkmar | wrong config. /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
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| 01:41.59 | icesword | anyone noticed my concerns? |
| 01:42.03 | ectospasm | ssh_config is the default config for the client |
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| 01:42.46 | unkmar | icesword: I did. Not sure what to make of it. |
| 01:42.49 | ectospasm | icesword: how much RAM does this laptop have, and how much have you given to the VM? |
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| 01:43.47 | icesword | 768M |
| 01:44.09 | icesword | it has 2G in total |
| 01:44.28 | ectospasm | icesword: what does free -m in the VM tell you? |
| 01:44.55 | waqstar | unkmar: OHHHHH sshd not ssh. Damn it! Thanks bro awesome |
| 01:45.13 | icesword | what free -M? |
| 01:45.21 | Warp4 | ok this is a little better |
| 01:45.41 | waqstar | unkmar: thanks |
| 01:45.42 | ectospasm | my guess is you don't have much free RAM, so the cache for tab complete can't be stored in memory, thus the disk thrashes every time you try to tab complete |
| 01:45.48 | unkmar | waqstar: yeah, ssh is one of the first things I configure. Lots of XP there. :D |
| 01:45.55 | icesword | okay just tell me what the problem is |
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| 01:45.58 | ectospasm | icesword: "free -m" is a quick console program to output memory usage |
| 01:46.22 | ectospasm | "-m" tells free to report in megabytes (1,024 KB) |
| 01:46.30 | ectospasm | it's rather crude |
| 01:46.38 | icesword | so i heard a noise from HDD when i hit tab |
| 01:46.50 | unkmar | icesword: -m means megs rather than the usual kilos. |
| 01:47.47 | unkmar | icesword: -h means human readable. Works as a parameter for many programs that reports Data sizes. Not all. |
| 01:48.11 | icesword | it s because the memory is too few or what |
| 01:48.28 | waqstar | unkmar: same! Im running clearos infront as a router/firewall and its brilliant! Had to configure NAT and all sorts as its a ESXi box with loads of VM's. 22 is the port for clearos so I setup port forwarding to get access to my debian box. I would recommend clearos |
| 01:48.29 | unkmar | icesword: that is what he is suggesting. Probably not enough memory. |
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| 01:49.23 | unkmar | icesword: He was suggesting the report from "free -m" to be certain. |
| 01:49.26 | icesword | well mother OS itself eats 1 G memory |
| 01:49.51 | icesword | its win 7 |
| 01:50.16 | ectospasm | yeah, running a VM with only 2GB of host memory isn't a good idea. |
| 01:50.20 | unkmar | icesword: IOW, is any RAM left for the OS to operate? or is it using swap. |
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| 01:51.06 | icesword | mm forget to build swap |
| 01:51.24 | Warp4 | ooh thats not a good thing |
| 01:51.25 | unkmar | ectospasm: I've done it with 1Gb, but you have to be very stingy with what you run AND, momma can't be Windows Vista and greater. XP is pushing it. |
| 01:51.58 | ectospasm | unkmar: I know it's possible, but if you're trying to run a GUI in the VM, you're just asking for pain. |
| 01:52.05 | unkmar | icesword: always make swap. Always. Even if swap fairly small. |
| 01:52.18 | Warp4 | and even in Linux doesnt use it |
| 01:52.23 | Warp4 | even if * |
| 01:52.25 | unkmar | ectospasm: c'est vrai. That's true. |
| 01:53.11 | ectospasm | *especially* with no swap. |
| 01:53.18 | icesword | hoverboard? |
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| 01:55.03 | unkmar | so, I guess I best get to crack'a lackin. Fresh install and probably lots of miss matched drivers to correct. :P |
| 01:56.06 | unkmar | I could test audio. That tends to work out of the box. I clearly have networking. That leaves Video, which is almost always not quite right. |
| 01:56.54 | unkmar | icesword: you the one about ssh? |
| 01:57.35 | icesword | it says total 749 used 544 free 504 |
| 01:58.00 | unkmar | nope, was waqstar. |
| 01:58.24 | icesword | swap 765 used 0 free 765 |
| 01:58.28 | unkmar | waqstar: Did you know you can listen on more than one port? Just add Port lines instead of replacing the only one. |
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| 01:59.01 | icesword | so i heard a noise … |
| 01:59.01 | unkmar | waqstar: handy to listen on 22 for local while using others for external access. |
| 01:59.12 | waqstar | unkmar: Thanks that will come in usefull! |
| 01:59.43 | unkmar | waqstar: I use to change the Port until I learned that trick. Now I just add the external. :P |
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| 02:00.09 | waqstar | unkmar: My next task is setting up VPN server on my debian box! Any good suggestions? OpenVPN sounds good |
| 02:00.35 | unkmar | waqstar: Eep. I've been wanting to for years. Haven't traveled that road yet. |
| 02:00.44 | waqstar | unkmar: I was editing the wrong config file what do I know loool |
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| 02:01.20 | waqstar | unkmar: Ah. It sounds so interesting. I'm gona start now! |
| 02:01.23 | unkmar | waqstar: I've heard mixed things about OpenVPN. Mostly good though. |
| 02:01.56 | icesword | what driver should i use? now the display is 1024X768, it can display 1366X768 |
| 02:02.05 | waqstar | unkmar: Excellent. Sounds good then |
| 02:02.18 | icesword | its AMD HD6470 |
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| 02:04.51 | unkmar | icesword: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22 |
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| 02:27.11 | Strife89 | Morn/Aft/Evening all. I'm in the middle of installing Wheezy (netinstall) and have a question about removing GNOME (after installing another DE). |
| 02:27.32 | Strife89 | Namely, how to do it without breaking stuff. |
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| 02:28.57 | Th0masR0ss | Strife89: check out http://wiki.debian.org/DesktopEnvironment |
| 02:28.58 | ectospasm | Strife89: have you already past the point where you can deselect the generic Desktop Environment (e.g. past tasksel)? |
| 02:29.00 | themill | Strife89: not installing gnome in the first place is the easiest approach |
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| 02:32.31 | Strife89 | ectospasm: Unfortunately, I have (and I left it selected). |
| 02:33.02 | Strife89 | And my connection isn't terribly fast, so I'm not keen on restarting the installation. |
| 02:33.18 | themill | Strife89: just install the one DE you want and then aptitude remove task-gnome-desktop |
| 02:33.21 | Strife89 | Also, I'm planning to install MATE, which AFAIK isn't in the official repos? |
| 02:33.30 | themill | correct, it's not |
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| 02:36.00 | Strife89 | *sigh* 97 more minutes of downloading. :/ |
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| 02:38.17 | rryoumaa | Strife89: what i did was install without the desktop, so that i could then choose and install a desktop while the system was working |
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| 02:40.35 | magyar | hi, is there a way to check the file checksum of the debian system installed? |
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| 02:40.50 | themill | !debsums |
| 02:40.51 | dpkg | debsums is, like, a utility that will check a package's files against their checksums. The "-a" argument will instruct it to also check configuration files: "aptitude install debsums; debsums -a -s". Most packages come with md5sums included in the package; if apt's package cache is clean, then generate missing sums with "aptitude reinstall `debsums -l`". Ask me about <md5sums>. |
| 02:41.02 | magyar | i installed wheezy with a bad memory module |
| 02:41.02 | Strife89 | rryoumaa: Think it might be faster to restart and do that, then? |
| 02:41.13 | rryoumaa | Strife89: dunno, but that is what i did |
| 02:41.47 | rryoumaa | it takes a few minutes to install without desktop, probably |
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| 02:42.24 | Th0masR0ss | Strife89: Are you using net install? |
| 02:42.27 | rryoumaa | but you probably have another computer, so you might just wait |
| 02:42.27 | Strife89 | Connection speed is ~150 Kbytes/sec., if that helps with the question |
| 02:42.35 | Strife89 | Th0masR0ss: |
| 02:42.40 | Strife89 | Th0masR0ss: Yes. |
| 02:42.44 | rryoumaa | (unless you are using irc from a vt) |
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| 02:42.59 | magyar | thank you themill |
| 02:43.05 | Strife89 | rryoumaa: I am; my Wheezy netbook. |
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| 02:48.03 | sawgood | Hi: any tips for this: I'm showing this: /dev/mapper/pve-data 71G 71G 8.0K 100% /var/lib/vz |
| 02:48.10 | Th0masR0ss | Strife89: do you mean you're using a virtual terminal or another computer? |
| 02:48.21 | sawgood | I deleted 5.x GB of files from a folder, and I'm still at 100% |
| 02:48.26 | Strife89 | Another computer, Th0masR0ss. |
| 02:48.35 | Th0masR0ss | oh |
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| 02:51.15 | sawgood | got it to 88% ... |
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| 02:51.49 | daveee123 | hey, I am looking to delete all cpan and perl data from my machine. any advice for the best way to do that? running wheezy and gnome3 |
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| 03:00.56 | peterrooney | sawgood: what does mount tell you about it? did deleting the files simply move them to the trash? |
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| 03:07.11 | Strife89 | themill: I assume task-gnome-desktop includes, say, the login screen? Do you know if MATE has its own replacement? |
| 03:07.32 | ectospasm | Strife89: might I recommend lightdm |
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| 03:08.00 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell Strife89 -about lightdm |
| 03:08.40 | djp5592 | I'm hoping to find someone with some knowledge of udev rules |
| 03:09.07 | ectospasm | !ask |
| 03:09.07 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 03:09.44 | djp5592 | I'm attempting to set up USB filtering through udev rules so that only my devices can be attached to the system, and if they aren't, i'll handle it from there |
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| 03:11.56 | Strife89 | ectospasm: Ahhh. I most likely will try it. :) |
| 03:12.48 | unkmar | djp5592: I like that idea. Pretty secure. |
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| 03:13.07 | DanDare | djp5592, is like udev rules will generate a unique hash representing your USB key ? |
| 03:13.15 | djp5592 | unkmar: thats the plan, i'm working on a capstone project that needs it to be |
| 03:13.37 | djp5592 | DanDare: I've considered doing it with hashing, but udev will do it immediately on plugging it in, no lag |
| 03:14.03 | djp5592 | I was planning on doing it by the drive's serial |
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| 03:17.27 | DanDare | djp5592, hmm. Maybe monitoring 'hald' events ? |
| 03:17.46 | djp5592 | that's the first i've heard of that. |
| 03:17.47 | DanDare | as trigger to check if theres something new there at udev rules |
| 03:18.52 | djp5592 | DanDare: I cant find anything much on it, can you explain it a bit? |
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| 03:20.32 | DanDare | djp5592, im sorry.. just thinking what I should look for at first if got something like youre going to. But im not used to hal daemon. Actually I know it exist and its what monitor hardware on linux :p |
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| 03:21.17 | DanDare | but information from manpage is promising: "The daemon connects to the D-Bus system message bus to provide an API that applications can use to discover, monitor and invoke operations on devices." |
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| 03:21.36 | DanDare | so.. go to that API I guess |
| 03:23.07 | DanDare | less elegant and bit clogged but maybe it works also: a cronjob to check udev rules every 5 seconds or such. But thats lot of unnecessary work maybe |
| 03:23.30 | djp5592 | i would, but this is all happening on a raspberry pi, so the less stuff i can ever have running the better |
| 03:23.35 | DanDare | oh |
| 03:23.48 | DanDare | rpi's runs Debian ? |
| 03:23.54 | djp5592 | let me try another prompt, see if we can spitball something else. How would you have the system check the serial of a drive when you plug it in |
| 03:24.03 | djp5592 | yeah, they released Raspbian |
| 03:24.12 | DanDare | sweet |
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| 03:24.38 | oomph_ | anyone know how to go about installing the Intel (i217LM / i210AT) on Wheezy? My install does not detect a network interface card? |
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| 03:24.48 | djp5592 | Yeah, my capstone is essentially scripting a bunch of stuff on the pi, using it for information assurance and digital forensics |
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| 03:25.10 | DanDare | sounds interesting |
| 03:25.21 | djp5592 | hopefully :) |
| 03:26.11 | djp5592 | but the plan right now is that if this is placed into a company you are trying to do pen testing for, and they find it and try to run forensic tools on it (likely by plugging in a flash drive with tools), it'll see their drive as an invader, and thus wipe it |
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| 03:26.41 | DanDare | djp5592, this looks to be of some help: http://people.freedesktop.org/~dkukawka/hal-spec-git/0.5.11/hal-spec.html |
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| 03:27.23 | DanDare | http://people.freedesktop.org/~dkukawka/hal-spec-git/0.5.11/hal-spec.html#device-properties-info-callouts |
| 03:27.42 | djp5592 | i had just opened that link as well |
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| 03:29.52 | djp5592 | usb_device.serial (string) |
| 03:30.01 | djp5592 | that could be good. do you know how to use that tho? |
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| 03:31.10 | DanDare | djp5592, on debian these policies are stored at /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy |
| 03:32.09 | DanDare | djp5592, like I said... I never messed with hal daemon. I just know it exist |
| 03:32.29 | djp5592 | let me look around, this could work. |
| 03:33.49 | DanDare | djp5592, this is for another device (not USB), but looks like it explains the general idea: http://bgoglin.livejournal.com/16734.html |
| 03:36.37 | DanDare | hmm.. detects when something is plugged -> check udev rules to watch out whats new -> if new device signature is not a permitted one unplug device and restore udev rules from a backup ? |
| 03:36.58 | DanDare | im not totally certain (not even little), but mabye thats something to test |
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| 03:37.45 | djp5592 | yeah, that's what i'm looking to do, except for once it realizes it isn't a permitted one, i want it to run a script to dd the drive full of 0's |
| 03:38.03 | djp5592 | did you find something to explain how to do what you had just suggested? |
| 03:38.03 | DanDare | man, are you that bad ? |
| 03:38.05 | DanDare | :p |
| 03:38.16 | djp5592 | just some added security :) |
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| 03:42.18 | djp5592 | in searching for stuff for hald, i may have stumbled across how to do it with udev |
| 03:42.25 | djp5592 | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/589841/upstart-calling-script-for-inserted-usb-drive |
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| 03:44.23 | DanDare | djp5592, nice. From that link I posted it seems that you can specify a list of programs to call when some device is detected, the "info.callouts.add" from the API |
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| 03:51.19 | djp5592 | i'm extremely close to getting the edev thing i just found working |
| 03:51.55 | djp5592 | i plugged in another drive that I didn't whitelist, (with it set to run another script, not wipe) and it nearly crashed the pi attempting to execute the script |
| 03:52.29 | DanDare | djp5592, how are you doing? checking udev rules regularly and comparing values ? |
| 03:53.08 | djp5592 | i did this: 'SUBSYSTEM=="block", ID_SERIAL_SHORT=="101A9041C67D182E", \ NAME="myusbdrive", \ RUN+="/my/backup/script $env{NAME}"' |
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| 03:53.29 | djp5592 | wiht different serial and different script, but thats the essentials |
| 03:54.28 | DanDare | hmm.. i want a rpi |
| 03:54.40 | djp5592 | well worth the investment |
| 03:55.13 | DanDare | I think its quite cheap for what you get in the box |
| 03:55.45 | djp5592 | yeah, i just had to get a new one from amazon, and it was 40 for the new one with 512mb |
| 03:55.55 | djp5592 | i cooked one with 256, hence me needing the replacement |
| 03:56.11 | DanDare | heh. messed the GPIO ports ? |
| 03:56.28 | djp5592 | nope, essentially burnt the RAM off the board |
| 03:56.31 | djp5592 | oopsies |
| 03:56.37 | DanDare | :( |
| 03:56.53 | djp5592 | running metasploit and openvas at once on 256 mb isn't easy |
| 03:57.51 | DanDare | "penetration testing software" ? |
| 03:58.28 | djp5592 | yup, running out of time on my capstone and overworking the hell outta it |
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| 03:58.50 | djp5592 | it's not completely cooked, but it's not all there. probably can still run raspBMC or something |
| 04:00.49 | DanDare | well. i want a pi for a cool jukebox |
| 04:01.05 | DanDare | using MPD and stuff |
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| 04:02.00 | djp5592 | yeah, they're sweet little things. I've spoken on them a few times, people love all the cool things you can do with them |
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| 04:02.53 | postmodern | i just setup a ubuntu raring chroot using debootstrap, but apt-get seems to think certain virtual packages do not exist? |
| 04:03.08 | DanDare | with the physical output plus shoutcast + ampache |
| 04:03.52 | DanDare | postmodern, not sure if I got it right but: thats not question for #ubuntu instead ? |
| 04:04.27 | postmodern | DanDare, the system was installed by debian software though |
| 04:04.43 | postmodern | DanDare, plus #ubuntu can only answer trivial questions like how do I fix pulseaudio ;) |
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| 04:04.50 | DanDare | ok |
| 04:05.20 | DanDare | just making sure youre aware of #ubuntu, anyway :) |
| 04:06.03 | postmodern | yeah already asked twice there, no response |
| 04:06.09 | postmodern | granted it is a friday |
| 04:06.50 | cusco | postmodern: you're talking about packages |
| 04:06.53 | cusco | that are not debian's |
| 04:07.02 | cusco | that is really a ubuntu thingie |
| 04:07.43 | postmodern | cusco, I'm talking about apt-get configuration |
| 04:08.03 | postmodern | cusco, the package definitely exists, but for some reason the chroot can't find it |
| 04:08.20 | cusco | you're not using debian repo's |
| 04:08.28 | cusco | there's no way we could help |
| 04:09.51 | cusco | you shold try asking in #ubuntu later if no one can help you now.. in the meanwhile you can search the web... |
| 04:10.01 | cusco | good luck |
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| 04:31.54 | djp5592 | DanDare: figured out why it would crash when i tried to put in a non-whitelisted drive: i didn't use #!/bin/sh |
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| 04:34.55 | djp5592 | DanDare: I'm heading out for the night, but I'll likely be popping in and out; I appreciate all your help |
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| 04:37.34 | jtreminio | Evening! I'm attempting to cp a bunch of dot files from one directory to another. however, I also want to change ownership of the files while doing so. So far I have "cp -r foo/dot/.[a-zA-Z0-9]* /home/bar/" |
| 04:38.10 | jtreminio | obviously that's only doing the cp, but no ownership change. I'm aware I need to do some trickery with find and then copy and then chown, but could anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 04:39.02 | jtreminio | Would something like this work? find / -iname "*.mp3" -exec mv {} /mnt/mp3 \; |
| 04:39.11 | jtreminio | of course, replace with my regex and other details |
| 04:40.01 | unkmar | jtreminio: -r |
| 04:40.34 | unkmar | jtreminio: Actually, -R chown, chgrp, and chmod have a -R option. |
| 04:41.10 | DanDare | jtreminio, copy your files there. After that do something like 'find . -type f -exec chmod 444 {} \; |
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| 04:41.53 | unkmar | jtreminio: you can also look at using xargs. All of these tricks are things I don't dig into often. |
| 04:42.02 | jtreminio | thanks guys |
| 04:42.05 | DanDare | not 'chmod' but chown instead |
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| 04:44.02 | Strife89 | Ooooookay, installation finally done |
| 04:44.22 | Strife89 | Logging in to a text console for MATE installation |
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| 05:04.31 | jelly-home | Strife89: fwiw, mate really won't be supported here in this channel. If anything happens there's #mate |
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| 05:09.22 | Strife89 | jelly-home: The MATE install seems to have gone fine, fortunately. |
| 05:09.50 | Strife89 | Trying to remove GNOME by task-gnome-desktop did not work, however |
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| 05:20.57 | afsal | bluetooth is not working in dell inspiron |
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| 05:32.30 | vmiimu | what's the best way to get sound working on a headless wheezy? is it still alsa mixer? |
| 05:37.00 | somiaj | vmiimu: yes alsamixer is a cli mixer you can use, /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 05:37.07 | somiaj | if you need to deal with drivers and the likes |
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| 05:37.46 | vmiimu | somiaj i'm trying to use pianobar over ssh -- is this possible or would that only be possible locally? |
| 05:38.05 | somiaj | I have no idea what pianobar is, so not sur |
| 05:38.25 | vmiimu | pianobar is a cli player for pandora |
| 05:38.56 | somiaj | then it should work, you may want to run it in a screen just incase your ssh connenction dies |
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| 05:40.12 | vmiimu | somiaj i just installed alsa-tools -- how can i launch the screen which lets me configure the sound levels? |
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| 05:40.30 | somiaj | just type 'alsamixer' |
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| 05:42.30 | vmiimu | somiaj i've just installed alsa-tools and can't seem to launch 'alsamixer' is there another package that needs to be installed |
| 05:42.56 | themill | it's alsa-utils not alsa-tools |
| 05:43.05 | somiaj | alsa-utils: /usr/bin/alsamixer |
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| 05:43.29 | vmiimu | installing now -- thanx |
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| 05:49.03 | vmiimu | somiaj -- alsa-utils installed and i was able to launch 'alsamixer' to adjust volume levels for all channels...but still no sound...any other suggestions? Is there something I need to do to get the system to give me sound over ssh? |
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| 05:49.18 | somiaj | did you /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 05:49.39 | somiaj | that lists a few things to check. make sure they are not muted, make sure you have the right card selected, also make sure the pcm is turned up and not muted |
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| 05:50.37 | themill | vmiimu: you don't really mean "sound over ssh" do you? |
| 05:51.04 | somiaj | I'm hoping he ment he had speakers/soundcard in a headless server type machine |
| 05:51.10 | themill | yes |
| 05:51.11 | vmiimu | themill - yea just wondering if i would able to play music and hear it over an ssh session? |
| 05:51.44 | Strife89 | I just grabbed fresh copies of Firefox and Thunderbird (the usual tar.gz archives with binaries), and they're not running when I try to ("no such file or directory"). |
| 05:52.11 | themill | vmiimu: there are a couple of tools like pulse that can forward sound from one machine to another. There's no native ability to encapsulate sound from one machine and forward it to another |
| 05:52.24 | Strife89 | I'm guessing this is because they're 32-bit binaries on a 64-bit kernel, but I don't know how to address that |
| 05:52.30 | somiaj | Strife89: what do you mean when you try to run them, you should just extract them into $HOME and then run them from your $HOME dir |
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| 05:52.33 | themill | Strife89: iceweasel and icedove are already in debian. You do seem to like making your life hard for yourself |
| 05:52.40 | vmiimu | got it -- thanx for the clarification |
| 05:52.50 | somiaj | Strife89: how are you trying to run them? Also why do iceweasel and icedove from mozilla.debian.net not work for you? |
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| 05:52.59 | Strife89 | themill: Yes, but they're a little out-of-date |
| 05:53.12 | somiaj | vmiimu: but you could plug a speaer system into the server and manage what is played via ssh |
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| 05:53.49 | Strife89 | themill: Also, I don't like to do that; I just rarely know any better. :) |
| 05:54.44 | Strife89 | somiaj: I extracted the contents of the archive to ~/Applications/[firefox/thunderbird] |
| 05:55.11 | somiaj | Strife89: the versions in wheezy are extened release versions that are supported by debian for security. Most likely you don't need the newer features |
| 05:55.14 | Strife89 | So, for example, I'm trying to run ~/Applications/firefox/firefox-bin and get the error |
| 05:55.25 | somiaj | Strife89: mozilla.debian.net is an okay source to get the newer versions from as a debian package |
| 05:56.02 | Strife89 | somiaj: sources.list line, please? |
| 05:56.19 | somiaj | Strife89: type mozilla.debian.net into your browser and go from there |
| 05:56.37 | somiaj | Strife89: as for your issue, ls -l ~/Applications/firefox/firefox-bin (is that file excutable)? |
| 05:57.07 | Strife89 | somiaj: Ahhh |
| 05:57.27 | somiaj | Strife89: but again mozilla.debian.net has clear instructions to follow |
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| 05:57.52 | Strife89 | somiaj: Yes, it's executable |
| 05:58.11 | somiaj | Strife89: try to cd into the directory, then run the binary as ./firefox-bin |
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| 06:05.21 | Strife89 | somiaj: I'm going to stick with the Iceweasel/dove packages, but that still produces "no such file or directory" |
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| 06:05.42 | somiaj | yea not sure what is going on, I never had such issues when I tested (: |
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| 06:06.14 | Strife89 | "file firefox-bin" says that it's indeed a 32-bit executable |
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| 06:06.54 | MrNaviPacho | What's the best way updating the linux kernel? |
| 06:09.23 | somiaj | MrNaviPacho: what version of debian are you running and what kernel do you want to run (and why)? |
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| 06:10.47 | MrNaviPacho | somiaj: I'm currently on the latest stable release and need 3.4 or higher. |
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| 06:13.34 | postmodern | figured out my debootstrap/ubuntu problem |
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| 06:14.01 | postmodern | debian's debootstrap config for raring doesn't add ubuntu universe to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:15.45 | james41382 | I partitioned an external usb hard drive for use as backup. There are 3 partitions on it, 2 ntfs, 1 ext4. I would like to backup to the ext4, but when I plug it in for some reason the ext4 partition gets auto mounted by gnome with ownership root:root instead of james:james |
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| 06:17.00 | james41382 | While the 2 ntfs partitions are mounted with ownership james:james. I tried to delete and recreate the partition, but same result. I partitioned with gparted if that helps. |
| 06:17.29 | somiaj | MrNaviPacho: you can get 3.10 from wheezy-backports, /msg dpkg wheezy backports |
| 06:18.11 | somiaj | james41382: an ext4 partition gives you full power to change permisions |
| 06:18.23 | somiaj | james41382: just chown the mount point ot what you want |
| 06:19.02 | james41382 | somiaj: I thought that the gnome usb auto mount should give me read/write access without doing anything like that? |
| 06:19.40 | somiaj | james41382: ext4 file systems do not work like that. vfat/ntfs partitions have to have unix style permissions mimiced |
| 06:20.07 | somiaj | james41382: so there are options when mounting those file systems to give the owership and permisions how you want |
| 06:20.36 | james41382 | somiaj: I can configure it with udev or chown each time I plug it in? |
| 06:20.39 | somiaj | james41382: ext4 partitions have to actually be managed like an ext4 partition so change the owner ship. NOte when it is mounted on another machine, ownership is not inherited (unless the actualy uid/gids are the same) |
| 06:20.49 | somiaj | once you change the permissions they stay changed |
| 06:21.00 | somiaj | again this is a full ext4 partition, so treat the filesystem correctly |
| 06:21.09 | james41382 | hmmm... |
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| 06:23.46 | james41382 | Okay I think I got it, but would it be better to simply access the file system as root or to change the ownership of the file system itself? |
| 06:25.28 | somiaj | if you haven't copied anything onto the file system just use 'sudo chown user:user /path/to/mount' |
| 06:25.43 | somiaj | from that point on that user cna write/delete create files in there, when he does they will just inherit his permissions |
| 06:25.51 | somiaj | just like they do whenyou write or create files in $HOME |
| 06:26.16 | somiaj | if you already have stuff there you want to change all the permission to, add the '-R' (recursive) flag to the chown command |
| 06:26.37 | james41382 | Okay I'll give it a try. Thanks! =] |
| 06:26.39 | somiaj | james41382: I'd personally change the permissions (: |
| 06:27.00 | somiaj | it will be permant, note if you have multiple machines you use this on the thing you may want to do is ensure your user has the same uid across all of them |
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| 06:27.22 | james41382 | Yes I understand that point about the uid / gid. |
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| 06:30.25 | james41382 | Okay so if the file system is currently auto mounted to /media/BACKUP_DEBIAN7 I should use that as the "/path/to/mount" because the gnome auto mount mounts to /mount/<partition label> ? |
| 06:31.43 | somiaj | james41382: correct |
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| 06:59.12 | bullgard4 | !no sound |
| 06:59.47 | somiaj | !tell bullgard4 about alsa checklist |
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| 07:00.53 | bullgard4 | somiaj: I am not so familiar with this bot here. So thank you very much for your help. |
| 07:01.57 | somiaj | bullgard4: (: |
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| 07:11.33 | nonconvergent | Hey |
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| 07:11.46 | kamathln | Hi.. I lost 3d acceleration - sepcifically dri support for my chip when I upgraded .. |
| 07:11.53 | kamathln | my Chip ID is 9807 |
| 07:11.57 | kamathln | 0x9807 |
| 07:12.11 | kamathln | is there any way I can bring it back? |
| 07:12.27 | kamathln | currently I am on testing |
| 07:12.50 | kamathln | glxinfo keeps saying unknown chip-id 9807 |
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| 07:15.31 | somiaj | kamathln: what graphics card? |
| 07:15.43 | somiaj | and by upgraded, what did you upgrade to and from? |
| 07:16.27 | kamathln | testing , from squeeze |
| 07:16.34 | kamathln | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 07:16.42 | somiaj | you went straight from squeeze to testing? |
| 07:16.59 | kamathln | Everything else worked beautifully .. |
| 07:17.04 | somiaj | if that is the case I"m surprised that is all that broke. |
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| 07:17.24 | kamathln | somiaj: :) |
| 07:17.27 | somiaj | it is suggested you go though wheezy, but anways what graphics card |
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| 07:17.36 | kamathln | yeah .. coming with that |
| 07:17.38 | somiaj | what driver? what kernel? |
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| 07:18.17 | kamathln | radeon hd-6290 |
| 07:18.35 | mumpitzel | somiaj: amd c60 with a builtin radeon 6290 |
| 07:18.37 | somiaj | what graphics drivers, the radeon free or the non-free fglrx |
| 07:18.38 | kamathln | blank xorg config |
| 07:18.43 | kamathln | free |
| 07:18.56 | somiaj | do you have the package firmware-linux-nonfree installed? |
| 07:19.02 | mumpitzel | kamathln: pastebin your Xorg.0.log |
| 07:19.04 | kamathln | linux-3.2.0 |
| 07:19.05 | mumpitzel | !tell kamathln about nopaste |
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| 07:19.26 | somiaj | I think you need that to get full 3d support for the free drivers and yess the Xorg.0.log is useful (: |
| 07:19.48 | kamathln | mumpitzel: my xorg.conf is "" |
| 07:20.02 | kamathln | mumpitzel: :) i havent done any config |
| 07:20.07 | somiaj | we want your log file, /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 07:20.08 | kamathln | it used to work beautifully |
| 07:20.10 | kamathln | ok |
| 07:20.24 | somiaj | and did you have that package I mentioned? |
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| 07:21.33 | kamathln | somiaj: will check .. but it used to work earlier .. |
| 07:21.43 | mumpitzel | kamathln: dpkg -l |grep firmware paste the output of this too |
| 07:22.12 | somiaj | kamathln: sometihng broke, we are trying to trace down what did. |
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| 07:23.00 | mumpitzel | kamathln: I suggest you use nopaste. easiest to use for you from the commandline |
| 07:23.19 | somiaj | that 3.2 kernel seems strange (was it an old squeeze-backport) if so you should install the meta package to get the newest 3.10 kernel in jessie. Though I don't htink that is the cause of your issue. |
| 07:23.30 | kamathln | somiaj: yeah .. currently on command line .. I rarely GUI these days .. installing pastebinit |
| 07:23.55 | mumpitzel | oi! new irssi :) |
| 07:24.28 | kamathln | somiaj: it wasnt installed .. and installing it broke the initramfs post-script of the dpkg |
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| 07:24.37 | kamathln | uh the other way round |
| 07:24.56 | somiaj | sounds like you have a few more issues to track down, (: |
| 07:25.43 | kamathln | somiaj: pastebin.com/8VMR235z |
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| 07:26.17 | somiaj | damn captulas, use paste.debian.net next time. (: |
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| 07:26.34 | kamathln | somiaj: using a command line tool |
| 07:26.35 | mumpitzel | kamathln: please use nopaste, not pastebinit |
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| 07:27.03 | kamathln | oh nice .. it can change the URL! didnt know! |
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| 08:11.21 | nyuszika7h | hi, is there a way to prevent people from directly connecting to mail servers via SMTP and requiring them to use mailx so it's sent through Postfix and the sender can be verified? |
| 08:11.34 | nyuszika7h | of course I still need to allow Postfix to send messages |
| 08:12.40 | buu | What? Why isn't the mail server verifying the sender? |
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| 08:13.10 | drybjed | mykhal: you need to enable authentication in postfix |
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| 08:14.45 | nyuszika7h | buu: this is pretty much a public shell, people could just telnet to SMTP servers directly |
| 08:14.47 | nyuszika7h | I want to avoid that |
| 08:15.36 | winterss | why? |
| 08:15.49 | mumpitzel | if the MTA only allows sending with auth, it doesn't matter if they telnet |
| 08:15.54 | drybjed | mykhal: disable public shell |
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| 08:16.06 | nyuszika7h | drybjed: why are you talking to mykhal instead of me? |
| 08:16.14 | themill | nyuszika7h: iptables can restrict by originating user |
| 08:16.38 | drybjed | ah, sorry mykhal , tab completion |
| 08:16.56 | nyuszika7h | also, that's not really a solution, drybjed |
| 08:16.58 | themill | nyuszika7h: so you could set up a firewall that only allows the user that postfix is running as to connect to remote :25 |
| 08:17.02 | drybjed | nyuszika7h: check this out: http://serverfault.com/questions/422468/postfix-open-relay-how-to-configure-so-it-is-not |
| 08:17.04 | mumpitzel | themill: would be a big iptables rule to include all users. and one still doesn't know who sent the mail threatening to kill the POTUS :) |
| 08:17.30 | themill | mumpitzel: not really. Block all then allow only root or postfix |
| 08:17.42 | nyuszika7h | mumpitzel: you do know who sent it if it's sent through Postfix |
| 08:17.46 | nyuszika7h | from the headers |
| 08:17.55 | mumpitzel | ah, you mean remote :25. I was thinking of local:25, the one that mailx is using. my bad |
| 08:18.11 | themill | mailx doesn't use smtp; it uses sendmail |
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| 08:19.19 | drybjed | nyuszika7h: so to recap: you have a server with a shell which other users can use, and you want to stop them using remote smtp servers to send mail, and instrad use local postfix, correct? |
| 08:19.26 | nyuszika7h | drybjed: yes |
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| 08:20.22 | buu | Oh, you mean servers you don't control? |
| 08:20.26 | drybjed | nyuszika7h: how many users? |
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| 08:20.42 | nyuszika7h | buu: no, I have root access to the server |
| 08:20.45 | drybjed | do they have to have access to shell on that server? |
| 08:20.48 | nyuszika7h | drybjed: let me check |
| 08:21.18 | nyuszika7h | drybjed: the point of my service is kind of that, though I don't have so many users |
| 08:21.37 | drybjed | because if I have access to shell somewhere, it won't stop me from using other servers... |
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| 08:22.26 | nyuszika7h | you don't understand what I want |
| 08:22.32 | drybjed | nyuszika7h: the point is, if you want to stop abuse of remote servers, blocking access to :25 on remote hosts is not an answer |
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| 08:22.47 | nyuszika7h | I want to prevent people from sending mail directly via SMTP FROM MY SHELL, not from somewhere else |
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| 08:23.22 | drybjed | nyuszika7h: you know that they can send email using telnet or netcat, right? |
| 08:23.25 | nyuszika7h | yes |
| 08:23.32 | nyuszika7h | that's exactly what I said |
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| 08:23.40 | mumpitzel | for an actual public shell, block everything. whitelist port 80,443 and let only the postfix user through |
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| 08:24.09 | nyuszika7h | I also need to whitelist IRC ports, though |
| 08:24.17 | mumpitzel | let only postfix user through for the rest of the ports that is |
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| 08:24.49 | mumpitzel | sure, whatever you intend your users to use, but whitelist them only. and for your system daemons to different exceptions so they work normally |
| 08:25.03 | mumpitzel | as themill wrote: filter via user the process runs under |
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| 08:26.43 | tcope | i have created a repository by mounting ISO sets then populating a /pool by recursively creating symlinks to all the packages contained within them .. created fresh Package and Release files .. debootstrap successfully finds all dependencies required then errors saying it can not download any of the packages. Path ref inside Package files all resolve to the symlinks correctly .. and symlnks match the packages .. any suggestion on what I am |
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| 08:29.18 | tassmjau | hey, does anyone know where the colors used in the default shell are being loaded from? |
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| 08:30.58 | peterrooney | tcope: why not copy the debs on the ISOs to /var/cache/apt/archives? |
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| 08:33.14 | peterrooney | tassmjau: dircolors is typically set up in .bashrc, which is copied to the user's $HOME from /etc/skel/.bashrc at account creation time. |
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| 08:34.20 | tcope | am trying to avoid moving so much data .. not a biggie for a single CD but if client chooses to use the whole 10 disc DVD set dynamically mounting the iso will be prefered |
| 08:34.44 | Lope | is there a graphical htop that works in X ? |
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| 08:35.25 | epitamizor | lxtask |
| 08:36.19 | epitamizor | conky has some stats also |
| 08:37.52 | peterrooney | tcope: what are you actually doing, if not a desert island install? |
| 08:37.58 | tassmjau | peterrooney: I see! however, I can't find any other color information in the bashrc skel than color prompt, I want color values, also I use zsh as default, I'm simply bored and wanna port the pretty colors from the defalt console to my xresources to use with urxvt, oh well :) |
| 08:38.31 | Lope | will lxtask work with jwm? |
| 08:38.52 | tcope | cluster management |
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| 08:39.47 | tcope | am coding debian support into the warewulf project . |
| 08:39.56 | peterrooney | tcope: instead of keeping all the ISOs around and mucking about with symlinks, just mount, copy the debs on them to .../archives. Delete the ISOs. Do once and forget. "When in doubt, use brute force. N is usually small." |
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| 08:42.32 | tcope | is a valid point and sounds like the path of least resistance .. will adopt said phylosophy |
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| 08:44.40 | peterrooney | It's from Kernighan and Pike; I've learned that ignoring it can make my head hurt and my boss impatient. |
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| 09:16.48 | Chosi | has anyone here updated the wheezy packaged mysql version with the 5.6 deb from the mysql site? |
| 09:17.58 | mumpitzel | ask your real question |
| 09:18.22 | Chosi | will it break? |
| 09:18.25 | Chosi | that is the question |
| 09:19.24 | Chosi | i need features from 5.6, so i need to update to that version - wondering if this will work without problems if i use the 5.6 deb from mysql |
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| 09:25.34 | caraconan | Hi all. Issue: .pdf files are processed physically by the printer, but the paper is completely blank. Same computer + VM Window$ + same printer is able to print without any issue. I saw this in the logs: http://tny.cz/d5b55264 Any idea? Thanks |
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| 09:27.02 | epitamizor | you dont have the right ppd files installed |
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| 09:27.54 | caraconan | epitamizor: I would say something completely forbidden: "it worked before" |
| 09:28.00 | epitamizor | depending on type of print you may need to install foomatic print drivers |
| 09:28.15 | caraconan | I will try this solution then, thanks |
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| 09:32.54 | caraconan | It didn't worked, I think I will need to fix dbus error message first |
| 09:33.43 | themill | if it worked before, do you know what happened to stop it working? |
| 09:35.42 | epitamizor | then select a different driver |
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| 09:36.25 | caraconan | I changed the driver again and now is working |
| 09:36.33 | caraconan | Thanks |
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| 09:45.13 | ideea | hello |
| 09:45.33 | ideea | i have installed default LAMP from debian website. but there is PCRE without UTF8 support |
| 09:45.35 | ideea | how i can fix it/ |
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| 10:00.50 | shafire | hi, how can i produce some read iops with dd? |
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| 10:12.57 | zeo | does it make sense to use KDE on debian? |
| 10:13.31 | zeo | i've been a long time kubuntu user, are there good reasons as to why i should switch to debian? |
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| 10:14.16 | mumpitzel | !tell zeo about why debian |
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| 10:14.46 | zeo | this page? http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Debian_vs_Ubuntu |
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| 10:14.58 | tumocs | I find debian a lot more stable and less messy |
| 10:15.24 | Lope | how can I prevent xorg from starting up by default in debian? |
| 10:15.29 | tumocs | currently on wheezy with openbox since testing gnome shitted on me |
| 10:15.33 | mumpitzel | !tell Lope about nodm |
| 10:15.55 | zeo | "Ubuntu is also sponsored by (and was created by) the company Canonical, which offers fee-based support services for Ubuntu, whereas Debian is developed entirely by the community." well i guess this is a good point |
| 10:16.38 | Lope | mumpitzel: I don't want to remove the desktop packages, i just don't want a DE starting up automatically...? |
| 10:17.14 | mumpitzel | Lope: and the factoid told you how to do it |
| 10:17.34 | mumpitzel | Lope: read all of it, not just the beginning |
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| 10:41.35 | Lope | mumpitzel: thank you friend :) |
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| 10:42.28 | Lope | btw echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager said bash permission denied |
| 10:42.45 | Lope | I also tried sudo. so I just changed the file to say false using nano |
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| 10:44.44 | mumpitzel | with sudo, your echo command runs as root, but your > redirection to a file does not. that's why you get permission denied |
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| 10:45.38 | Lope | mumpitzel: ok, so what is the correct syntax? |
| 10:46.22 | isidore | Lope: you could use sudo su |
| 10:46.38 | Lope | can you please give an example? |
| 10:46.39 | mumpitzel | Lope: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/82256/how-do-i-use-sudo-to-redirect-output-to-a-location-i-dont-have-permission-to-wr |
| 10:46.54 | Lope | thank u :) |
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| 10:52.32 | Lope | thanks guys |
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| 10:55.40 | Lope | okay now that my desktop manager is disabled by default how can I start it? I've tried typing jwm or ratpoison. but it says can't open display. startx only starts xfce. not the Xorg login that lets me choose a wm. Xorg gives fatal server error. sudo Xorg gives me a black screen :) |
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| 10:57.03 | mumpitzel | Lope: /etc/init.d/<desktop manager of choice> start for example |
| 10:57.17 | mumpitzel | Lope: of ir you simply want to start xorg: startx |
| 10:57.27 | mumpitzel | *or if |
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| 11:00.20 | Lope | ./etc/init.d/lightdm [info] Not starting blah it is not the default DM |
| 11:00.33 | Lope | how lame is that? |
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| 11:02.42 | Lope | ubuntu help says sudo start lightdm. but debian says start: command not found |
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| 11:04.23 | err404 | Lope, try: invoke-rc.d lightdm restart |
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| 11:05.04 | err404 | invoke-rc.d as root of course |
| 11:05.20 | Lope | what is invoke-rc.d? |
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| 11:05.28 | Lope | command not found |
| 11:05.40 | mumpitzel | Lope: /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d |
| 11:05.46 | mumpitzel | you must be root. use sudo |
| 11:05.50 | Lope | oh i see. as sudo it gave same error message that its not the default. |
| 11:06.10 | Lope | what kind of a BS policy is that that a DM won't start if its not the default? |
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| 11:06.13 | err404 | ok, may be i don't remember exactly, so, try /etc/init.dlightdm restart |
| 11:06.21 | err404 | ok, may be i don't remember exactly, so, try /etc/init.d/lightdm restart |
| 11:06.38 | Lope | same err |
| 11:06.59 | err404 | aptitude install lightdm |
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| 11:07.23 | srhb | Lope: dpkg-reconfigure lightdm - choose it as the default DM |
| 11:07.28 | srhb | Lope: Then start it normally. |
| 11:07.55 | Lope | lightdm was installed. I just ran this command so that it doesn't start when I boot. sudo sh -c 'echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager' now it won't start manually. |
| 11:08.10 | srhb | Indeed, working as intended. |
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| 11:08.30 | Lope | ? |
| 11:08.53 | srhb | Lope: You have removed it as the default display manager rather than setting it to not start normally |
| 11:09.01 | srhb | Lope: The fact that you can now not start it manually is Working As Intended. |
| 11:09.10 | srhb | Lope: Instead, set it as the default DM and prevent it from starting at boot. |
| 11:09.17 | Lope | ohhh |
| 11:09.19 | Lope | how can I do that? |
| 11:09.46 | srhb | Lope: update-rc.d -f lightdm remove # if I recall correctly |
| 11:09.58 | srhb | Or was that deprecated? I haven't used Debian regularly for a while. |
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| 11:10.34 | srhb | It's probably 'insserv -r lightdm' |
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| 11:10.39 | srhb | I'm sure someone knows how this is done normally. |
| 11:10.42 | Lope | what dir is that in? |
| 11:11.10 | srhb | Lope: Doesn't matter. |
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| 11:11.32 | Lope | oh |
| 11:11.44 | Lope | is there some text file with the startup stuff I can edit? |
| 11:12.00 | srhb | Lope: Not a single file, they are managed as a bunch of symlinks iirc |
| 11:12.02 | sporadic_1 | Hi. I installed debian server and upgraded to sid. I'm now trying to ssh into the server with: ssh debian@192.168.1.208 and get prompt to enter password which results in: "permission denied - please try again". I have uncommented line in sshd_config to allow password logins. any ideas? |
| 11:12.14 | srhb | Lope: Which is why these tools are useful. You may want to install rcconf if you want a simple way to manage them |
| 11:12.21 | mumpitzel | sporadic_1: do you have a user named "debian"? |
| 11:12.37 | Lope | oh I see |
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| 11:12.54 | srhb | Lope: I'm pretty sure the update-rc.d command should work. Did you try it? |
| 11:13.00 | sporadic_1 | hmmmmm. I don't think so. I think I will make one though :D thanks. |
| 11:13.15 | buu | sporadic_1: Try logging in as a user that exists and not one you made up |
| 11:13.47 | Lope | srhb: ok I ran "update-rc.d -f lightdm remove" and it said update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing |
| 11:13.51 | Lope | what does that mean? :) |
| 11:14.16 | mumpitzel | !tell Lope about insserv |
| 11:14.22 | srhb | Lope: That you should use insserv instead |
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| 11:14.41 | Lope | great. I just rebooted. no DM loaded. just in the terminal. |
| 11:15.04 | Lope | awesome, sudo lightdm and I'm in! :) |
| 11:15.07 | Lope | thanks guys! |
| 11:15.08 | mumpitzel | Lope: what DE do you use? |
| 11:15.10 | srhb | Lope: Welcome. |
| 11:15.46 | Lope | for my own PC I use mate |
| 11:15.48 | srhb | awc737: You should probably not sudo lightdm though, use sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm start instead, or simply skip using a DM |
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| 11:15.54 | srhb | Oops. That was for Lope |
| 11:16.00 | srhb | wonders how she made that typo. |
| 11:16.55 | Lope | but this is for a lightweight VPS. I've experimented with a bunch of WMs. I've just tried the ones that have automatically configured themselves to work with lightdm. I don't know how to start up the others. but I don't really care. cos I've found jwm to be pretty good and it only uses about 9MB with it's 3 processes loaded. |
| 11:16.57 | srhb | Lope: I'm guessing you're trying to minimize your system - you could remove the DM entirely you know. |
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| 11:17.18 | Lope | here is a nice list of WM's and their mem usage http://www.gilesorr.com/wm/memory32.html |
| 11:17.36 | buu | ratpoison! |
| 11:17.37 | srhb | Lope: Then you'd put "exec mate-session" in your ~/.xinitrc and use startx to start your DE instead. |
| 11:17.40 | Lope | okay well thats my next step. I really just want to run 1 or 2 wine apps |
| 11:17.50 | Lope | and I don't need a physical display, just VNC |
| 11:17.56 | mumpitzel | Lope: not very useful anymore in the time of DEs |
| 11:18.04 | srhb | Lope: Sounds like you want FreeNX then. :-) |
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| 11:18.55 | Lope | srhb: please note I'm not using mate on the VPS. someone asked me what DE I use. I said I use mate on my laptop. but right now all my questions relate to setting up a very lightweight environment on a VPS, hence trying out lightdm and jwm |
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| 11:19.26 | srhb | Lope: Right, but that's why I am suggesting not using a display manager at all. |
| 11:19.43 | srhb | Lope: Instead relying on startx and ~/.xinitrc or FreeNX |
| 11:19.49 | Lope | srhb: yes, I think that would be better. I'm at an early stage of experimentation. So can I run something like jwm without a DM? |
| 11:19.51 | srhb | Lope: On your VPS, that is |
| 11:19.59 | srhb | Lope: Absolutely. |
| 11:20.00 | Greylocks | #! very light on resources and very versatile |
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| 11:21.19 | Lope | oh great. now there are various VNC servers I've seen on the apt repos. there is tightvncserver x11vnc and vnc4server... as I understand you can either create a X session then attach a VNC server to that, or you can create a VNC server which makes it's own X session. |
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| 11:21.44 | Lope | I need the X session to keep running while I'm logged out. so would either solution work for me? |
| 11:22.06 | Lope | I mean when my VNC client is logged out. I want the X session to continue. |
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| 11:23.14 | srhb | Lope: I don't know how to do that, I'd use FreeNX for that purpose I think. |
| 11:23.21 | Lope | will google it |
| 11:23.43 | Lope | at the moment when i type startx it opens xfce DM. |
| 11:23.55 | Lope | what file must I edit to stop it from starting xfce? |
| 11:24.08 | Lope | I'd rather it starts jwm |
| 11:24.11 | srhb | Lope: ~/.xinitrc |
| 11:25.19 | Lope | I don't have a ~/.xinitrc file |
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| 11:25.47 | Lope | I've got .bashrc .profile ... etc .Xauthority |
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| 11:25.49 | srhb | Lope: Then make it :-) |
| 11:26.29 | Lope | srhb: if I don't have a x config file then why when I type startx does xfce start? |
| 11:26.56 | srhb | Lope: Because it defaults to a system-wide file when you don't have one of your own. |
| 11:27.14 | Lope | cool :0 |
| 11:27.19 | Lope | where is the systemwide file? |
| 11:27.30 | srhb | Lope: man startx should tell you |
| 11:27.42 | srhb | Lope: At the very bottom of the file (press G) |
| 11:27.53 | Lope | i found /etc/X11/Xsession.options |
| 11:28.00 | srhb | Lope: Stop guessing. use man. |
| 11:28.03 | srhb | Lope: :-) |
| 11:28.08 | Lope | okay cool :) |
| 11:28.42 | srhb | Lope: for the record man startx has, on my system, near the bottom: /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc Client to run if the user has no .xinitrc file. |
| 11:29.10 | Lope | i found .dmrc in my ~ dir. but I won't need to mess with that hey? |
| 11:29.25 | srhb | I don't know what .dmrc is. |
| 11:29.40 | srhb | Lope: I think I've given you all the information you need. |
| 11:29.58 | Lope | i installed loads of window managers. might be from one of those. cool, I'm looking at the man :) |
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| 11:30.52 | srhb | Lope: Check sections "EXAMPLE" and "FILES" - those are relevant to you |
| 11:31.09 | Lope | so my /etc/X11/init/xinitrc file invokes /etc/X11/Xsession |
| 11:32.40 | Lope | okay that file is a whole big shell script that defines loads of paths |
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| 11:34.08 | Lope | I'll brb. haven't found anything about xfce yet. |
| 11:34.19 | srhb | Lope: If you don't want to mess with the system-wide settings, just create your own .xinitrc like I told you |
| 11:34.35 | Lope | yeah, I'm just trying to find the reference to xfce |
| 11:34.44 | Lope | maybe I should search for files containing xfce :) |
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| 11:35.42 | srhb | Lope: I'm not quite sure why you want to do that, but yes, maybe you should search /etc/X11 for references to that. |
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| 11:37.23 | Lope | hmm, nothing in the x11 dir. |
| 11:37.30 | Lope | I'll brb |
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| 11:37.52 | cmdnoob | hej hej |
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| 11:38.12 | cmdnoob | my device is running from an sdcard and according to a tutorial i got to change te bootloader |
| 11:38.31 | cmdnoob | how to i know what device i got to dd to ? |
| 11:39.10 | cmdnoob | dd if=bootloader/sunxi-spl.bin of=/dev/sdX bs=1024 seek=8 |
| 11:39.12 | cmdnoob | dd if=bootloader/u-boot.bin of=/dev/sdX bs=1024 seek=32 |
| 11:39.22 | cmdnoob | but i have to set sdX myself |
| 11:39.27 | srhb | cmdnoob: You can use hdparm eg. to figure out which device is what. |
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| 11:39.56 | srhb | cmdnoob: Or perhaps the output of dmesg will be sufficient - dmesg | grep sd |
| 11:41.49 | cmdnoob | hdparm seems not to exist, it´s a arm based tv box running debian |
| 11:41.53 | cmdnoob | http://pastebin.com/N5vHMQbP |
| 11:42.18 | cmdnoob | i booted from the sdcard |
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| 11:42.34 | cmdnoob | but it does not seem to give it back this way |
| 11:42.38 | srhb | cmdnoob: If you booted from it, you can just check mount to figure out which device it is |
| 11:43.43 | cmdnoob | http://pastebin.com/KtgHYhmR |
| 11:44.30 | srhb | Heh, /dev/root. How helpful. |
| 11:45.07 | srhb | cmdnoob: Anyway /dev/mmc... seems to be the device for /boot |
| 11:45.28 | cmdnoob | thx i think i will try that |
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| 11:50.30 | cmdnoob | rebooting |
| 11:50.38 | cmdnoob | now i guess i will know for sure :) |
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| 12:06.52 | cmdnoob | ah, sometimes you´ll loose and sometimes the others are winning... |
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| 12:18.32 | Lope | shrb: thanks for your help. I can start jwm with just Xorg now. no desktop manager. Just xinit /usr/bin/jwm |
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| 12:31.49 | babilen | Lope: I would recommend to use startx(1) with a suitable ~/.xsession file in lieu of xinit |
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| 12:35.02 | cmdnoob | thx srhb, i was stupid enough to flash it to the first partition instead of the sd card itself |
| 12:35.58 | srhb | babilen: Don't you mean ~/.xinitrc ? |
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| 12:36.58 | babilen | srhb: No, I don't. |
| 12:37.06 | babilen | dpkg: .xinitrc |
| 12:37.07 | dpkg | The optional customisation script ~/.xinitrc is used for running X as startx, and ~/.xsession is for when using X from a Display Manager like xdm or kdm. .xinitrc is discouraged in Debian, as if you just use ~/.xsession it will work from both startx and the display manager, as documented in startx(1). |
| 12:37.27 | babilen | (never found that in startx(1) though) |
| 12:37.57 | srhb | babilen: Thanks, I had no idea. Don't know why that's a good idea, though. |
| 12:38.14 | babilen | srhb: Why what exactly is a good idea? |
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| 12:39.13 | srhb | babilen: I mean, I disagree on that as a design choice. Many DMs will set up sessions like dbus, policykit and whatnot for you, whereas with startx you must handle that yourself. There must be a lot of jumping through hoops in the /etc/X11/xinit/* Debian scripts to allow this nonstandard behaviour. |
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| 12:39.23 | babilen | It strikes me as quite convenient to be able to use the same session definition for both startx and a display manager |
| 12:39.27 | srhb | But clearly your suggestion is The Right One for Debian. |
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| 12:42.21 | babilen | srhb: And yeah, one does have to setup dbus and ensure that libpam-ck-connector is installed too |
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| 12:44.58 | srhb | babilen: I just think it would be better to set that kind of stuff up in .xinitrc and then ultimately run .xsession (where all the shared stuff could still live) |
| 12:45.01 | srhb | But ah, philosophy. |
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| 12:46.27 | babilen | Ah, I see where you are coming from :) |
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| 13:28.55 | vipzrx1 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6226794/ |
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| 13:29.48 | fixi | heyí |
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| 13:33.31 | CheckDavid | My desktop is always empty, I mean the real desktop, I do have a folder called desktop, but it's contents are not displayed without opening the folder. |
| 13:33.42 | CheckDavid | IS there a way of moving files on my desktop? |
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| 13:34.40 | D|nA | what DE ? |
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| 13:44.37 | CheckDavid | D|nA, what is DE? |
| 13:44.47 | D|nA | desktop environment |
| 13:44.53 | CheckDavid | Oh |
| 13:44.56 | D|nA | gnome3, kde, xfce, lxde etc |
| 13:44.56 | CheckDavid | how can I check that? |
| 13:45.09 | mumpitzel | are you running gnome or xfce, etc? |
| 13:45.19 | CheckDavid | I am not totally sure |
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| 13:47.11 | CheckDavid | it says default to me when I try echo $DESKTOP_SESSION on the terminal =( |
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| 13:47.53 | ectospasm | CheckDavid: maybe take a screenshot and show us... |
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| 13:48.14 | D|nA | you can head /etc/apt/sources.list and see |
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| 13:49.25 | CheckDavid | D|nA, I only have sources.list.d |
| 13:49.27 | CheckDavid | and it's empty |
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| 13:49.35 | CheckDavid | oh no, wait |
| 13:49.41 | D|nA | the first two lines say deb cdrom blah blah - official [platform] in my case i386 xfce-cd... |
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| 13:50.29 | D|nA | or upload a screenshot as ectospasm said |
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| 13:50.53 | CheckDavid | # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20130615-23:04]/ wheezy contrib main non-free |
| 13:50.59 | CheckDavid | does this line contain the info? |
| 13:51.00 | CheckDavid | not sure |
| 13:51.48 | D|nA | send us a screenshot then |
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| 13:52.52 | CheckDavid | seriously? no other way of knowing? =O |
| 13:53.07 | mumpitzel | CheckDavid: ps aux |grep gnome |
| 13:53.39 | ectospasm | or "ps -ef | grep xfce |
| 13:53.41 | ectospasm | " |
| 13:53.48 | umarzuki | if you're using netinst and select to install desktop environment during install |
| 13:53.54 | CheckDavid | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:54.12 | umarzuki | you're using default DE = gnome 3 |
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| 13:54.20 | CheckDavid | oh ok |
| 13:54.36 | CheckDavid | then it's gnome 3 |
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| 13:56.37 | D|nA | install gnome-tweak-tool then |
| 13:56.59 | D|nA | and let filemanager to handle your desktop |
| 13:57.36 | D|nA | that worked for me when i was using fedora15 |
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| 14:01.02 | CheckDavid | Oh, so it doens't work by default? |
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| 14:01.08 | CheckDavid | need to install a manager? =O |
| 14:01.23 | mumpitzel | you already have a filemanager |
| 14:01.56 | D|nA | what he wants is to have icons on his desktop |
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| 14:04.36 | CheckDavid | If I don't install anything, is there any other use for the real estate on my desktop other than having icons? |
| 14:04.58 | D|nA | you can run gconf-editor and enable desktop icons and right click |
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| 14:08.32 | Lancien | hi all i'm very bad at english and i dont really understand what can i make after this : you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock: |
| 14:08.49 | Lancien | i have run e2fsck |
| 14:08.57 | Lancien | but not with alternate option |
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| 14:10.14 | mumpitzel | Lancien: what is your native language then? |
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| 14:11.10 | Lancien | mumpitzel, it's French and i search in debianfr too :D |
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| 14:18.16 | Perdu | Lancien: man e2fsck est assez clair pourtant |
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| 14:21.17 | Lancien | Perdu, not really in this case :D (pas dans ce cas on dirais) |
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| 14:25.21 | Perdu | Lancien: T'as essayé avec d'autres superbloc ? |
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| 14:27.13 | Lancien | Perdu, ben les classiques sachant que je m'attaque a un ntfs/ |
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| 14:38.23 | CheckDavid | I see, thanks D| |
| 14:38.27 | CheckDavid | D|nA, |
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| 14:38.53 | D|nA | welcome |
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| 14:40.29 | D|nA | deb 7.2 :o |
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| 15:00.03 | MonochromaticPio | Hi |
| 15:00.04 | MonochromaticPio | o/ |
| 15:00.15 | arisv | hi MonochromaticPio |
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| 15:06.22 | johnfg | I'm able to do some with hplip, after backporting from sid, but it's still not working properly. |
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| 15:07.10 | johnfg | No matter how hp-setup is run: either directly from the cli, or from hplip-gui, nothing gets set. It goes back to the beginning of the setup. |
| 15:07.26 | johnfg | One error I see on the cli is: error: Unicode Error. |
| 15:07.42 | johnfg | Not very enlightening. Any ideas? |
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| 15:08.36 | ectospasm | what's the problem, again johnfg? What are you trying to do? |
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| 15:09.31 | ectospasm | it's been my experience that hplip "just works" with a directly connected printer... I use CUPS (http://localhost:631) to add printers... |
| 15:10.10 | johnfg | ectospasm: That's most likely true, but I need mine to operate on the wireless, which it does, but not through hplip. |
| 15:10.33 | johnfg | ectospasm: So, you never use hp-setup? |
| 15:10.45 | ectospasm | I may have once... |
| 15:10.51 | ectospasm | ...but I really can't remember |
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| 15:11.12 | ectospasm | first, does the printer work on the WLAN? Can other systems see it? |
| 15:11.52 | ectospasm | I did discover that scanning from my multifunction didn't work out of the box over wireless, so I plugged in a USB cable. |
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| 15:13.35 | cmdnoob | what means blacklisting in the wifi conf |
| 15:14.37 | ectospasm | cmdnoob: you mean blacklisting a driver? Usually listing the driver in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist* |
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| 15:16.09 | verysoftoiletppr | hello |
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| 15:16.21 | verysoftoiletppr | I installed nginx with apt-get |
| 15:16.44 | verysoftoiletppr | however I get this: |
| 15:16.46 | verysoftoiletppr | $ /etc/init.d/nginx status |
| 15:16.48 | verysoftoiletppr | [FAIL] nginx is not running ... failed! |
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| 15:21.26 | cmdnoob | in my wifi.conf it looks like this |
| 15:21.31 | cmdnoob | blacklist rtl8192cu |
| 15:21.32 | cmdnoob | options 8192cu rtw_power_mgnt=0 rtw_enusbss=0 |
| 15:21.54 | cmdnoob | i was trying to start hostap but it didn´t work so far |
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| 15:22.45 | cmdnoob | now i was wondering if i can just unblacklist it but my whole modprobe.d folder has only 2 conf files |
| 15:23.18 | cmdnoob | wifi.conf and a longer blacklist.conf |
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| 15:24.09 | djp5592 | Hey, i'm looking for some help on whitelisting external media (USB Flash drives) using udev rules. Plan is when it's plugged in, it will check the serial against the udev rule, and if it matches, it's good to go, and if not, it runs a script. |
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| 15:27.19 | deego | So many upgrades. Did a new point release happen? :) |
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| 15:28.01 | ectospasm | 7.2 was announced today |
| 15:28.05 | deego | ectospasm: ah |
| 15:28.26 | ectospasm | At least, I got the memo about it |
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| 15:30.39 | jhutchins | verysoftoiletppr: Perhaps it should be configured before it is started. |
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| 15:31.01 | verysoftoiletppr | jhutchins: it doesn't come with a default config? |
| 15:31.29 | jhutchins | verysoftoiletppr: I don't know, I use apache. I would expect that you would need to configure it though. |
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| 15:31.55 | jhutchins | verysoftoiletppr: If servers start when installed, people complain. If they don't start until they're configured, people complain. |
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| 15:32.19 | jhutchins | cmdnoob: If you blacklist it the configuration will not matter as the driver won't load. |
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| 15:50.53 | fairway | hi |
| 15:51.06 | unkmar | hi |
| 15:51.18 | fairway | should I consider using jersey for REST web services with spring or directly start using Spring HATEOS? |
| 15:51.52 | mumpitzel | and this is debian related how? |
| 15:52.00 | mumpitzel | HATEOAS btw |
| 15:52.13 | unkmar | I was tyring to figure out what those things mean. |
| 15:52.40 | mumpitzel | web buzzword bingo, that's all |
| 15:53.05 | peterrooney | buzzword acronym compression ratio approaching unity |
| 15:53.30 | peterrooney | feels dirtier |
| 15:53.47 | fairway | oops |
| 15:53.56 | fairway | I was thinking this is #spring |
| 15:53.57 | fairway | heh |
| 15:54.02 | unkmar | Lol |
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| 15:56.12 | djp5592 | hey, so i was in here looking for help last night for udev stuff, but i have a new option and am looking for help figuring it out. The goal is to whitelist usb devices, and if one that doesn't match is plugged in, run a script. I'm now thinking that i'll have a hashed file containing all the serial numbers i want whitelisted, when a new drive is plugged in, have it's serial written to a file, then hash it, and if it doesn't match |
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| 16:02.54 | alphis | hey guys. iceweasal is "kept back" when i do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 16:02.59 | alphis | any reason why |
| 16:03.21 | alphis | (i love how a reason is the last thing the command would return btw) |
| 16:03.26 | mrdeb | do apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 16:04.24 | alphis | oh theres a dist upgrade avail? is there a way to check for that instead of just trying |
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| 16:04.31 | CallerNo6 | alphis: see also http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/apt-get-question-dist-upgrade-vs-upgrade-219920/ |
| 16:04.57 | mrdeb | just do it |
| 16:04.58 | babilen | alphis: You might want to read the manpage of apt-get to learn about the differences between "upgrade" and "dist-upgrade" |
| 16:04.59 | mrdeb | it will not harm it |
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| 16:05.08 | CallerNo6 | oh, oops, wrong-ish link |
| 16:05.11 | mrdeb | it will get u to iceweasel 17.09 |
| 16:05.41 | peterrooney | alphis: Yes. apt-get --recon dist-upgrade |
| 16:05.52 | alphis | thanks |
| 16:05.58 | mrdeb | what is recon |
| 16:06.01 | mumpitzel | !tell alphis about kept back |
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| 16:19.58 | danlamanna | how can i resize an ext4 home partition down without losing data? |
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| 16:20.49 | mtn | danlamanna: use gparted from a live disk, but data loss is always a possibility. never happened to me, though |
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| 16:21.26 | ectospasm | do you have backups, danlamanna? |
| 16:21.32 | ectospasm | or, are you using LVM? |
| 16:21.48 | danlamanna | i don't.. but i could |
| 16:21.55 | mtn | you should |
| 16:22.19 | danlamanna | basically, my home partition is huge. but /, /var, and /usr are tiny |
| 16:22.55 | geggam_ | there are two people in this world... those who backup and those who lose their shit |
| 16:23.08 | danlamanna | geggam_: in my defense, I installed this yesterday. |
| 16:23.29 | geggam_ | then what data are you worrieda bout ? |
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| 16:23.45 | mumpitzel | danlamanna: you backup your harddisks, then run a liveCD with gparted on it |
| 16:23.47 | mtn | geggam_: then install again and do it better? |
| 16:23.52 | danlamanna | all the initial stuff i've installed and configured |
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| 16:24.01 | mtn | geggam_: sorry, not for you. |
| 16:24.03 | mumpitzel | danlamanna: then reinstall and use a single partition for them all |
| 16:24.27 | mtn | I second the motion |
| 16:26.15 | danlamanna | Doing it! |
| 16:26.16 | danlamanna | reboots |
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| 16:34.28 | guest309 | the procedure of upgrading to wheezy requires that you have squeeze fully up-to-date before taking any action. what should I do with those packages that are unupgradeable for dependancies reasons? thank a lot. |
| 16:35.36 | Perdu | guest309: Remove them and then trying to reinstall them after the upgrade? (just guessing) |
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| 16:37.11 | jhutchins | !upgrade |
| 16:37.11 | dpkg | upgrade is, like, what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude. Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version of Debian, read its release notes first. Ask me about <lenny->squeeze> <squeeze->wheezy>. |
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| 16:39.15 | guest309 | the section 4.2.1 in http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrade-preparations just says "fix them" :( |
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| 16:41.01 | mumpitzel | !tell guest309 about bat |
| 16:41.02 | ieuan | hi all |
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| 17:08.12 | guest309 | Perdu: in the official guide is said to unhold them (aptitude unhold pkgname)..I stopped reading too early :) |
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| 17:09.06 | Perdu | guest309: Oh I don't even know about that, I will have a look too |
| 17:11.11 | babilen | guest309: There is little we can do without seeing actual output |
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| 17:15.25 | guest309 | babilen: I think I'm not having problems..I wanted to know how to behave with packages in "hold" state. |
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| 17:15.43 | djp5592 | anyone have experience getting udev to execute a command? |
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| 17:16.14 | file-exists-p | hi |
| 17:16.29 | babilen | djp5592: http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#external-naming |
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| 17:17.01 | babilen | djp5592: err, the next section was the one I wanted |
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| 17:17.13 | babilen | djp5592: Now *you* know :) |
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| 17:18.30 | djp5592 | i have that much, it just won't execute the script thats set |
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| 17:20.51 | babilen | djp5592: If you have an actual problem you want to solve you might want to ask about *that*. Provide applicable configuration files, commands and output on http://paste.debian.net and tell us what you've done and what you hope to achieve. There is typically not much sense in searching for "anyone" who has done something. |
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| 17:22.35 | djp5592 | this is what i have right now: http://paste.debian.net/56777/ it will not execute echo.sh |
| 17:22.39 | tcope | i have created a repository by mounting ISO sets then populating a /pool by recursively copying all the packages contained within them .. created fresh Package and Release files .. debootstrap successfully finds all dependencies required then errors saying it can not download any of the packages. Path ref inside Package files all resolve to the matching packages .. any suggestion on what I am missing ?? |
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| 17:26.55 | jhutchins | mirror |
| 17:27.03 | jhutchins | !mirror |
| 17:27.03 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <http.debian.net>, <geo sources.list> and <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 17:28.25 | qwoox | hello guys :) can you maybe tell me when i use: make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers why i get make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-3.10.15' make: *** [debian/stamp/build/kernel] Fehler 2 --- at drivers/built-in.o ? :) |
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| 17:30.34 | mumpitzel | qwoox: there was an error before that. |
| 17:30.43 | mumpitzel | and you shouldn't use make-dpkg anymore |
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| 17:31.17 | qwoox | thats the problem ... there is NO Error |
| 17:31.29 | qwoox | i already got google pages where are errors etc. but i didnt get one |
| 17:31.36 | qwoox | which command should i use instead then? |
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| 17:32.09 | peterrooney | mumpitzel: why should make-kpkg not be used any more? |
| 17:32.59 | mumpitzel | kernel has its own make a deb now. vanilla kernel comes with it. I was under impression that make-kpkg isn't really developed anymore |
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| 17:33.15 | demytry | sera |
| 17:33.16 | babilen | it's not |
| 17:33.23 | mumpitzel | it also often has problems when you want to make a cutting edge kernel with debian stable |
| 17:33.32 | tumocs | 1 |
| 17:34.01 | babilen | http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ and http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html is the seminal documentation |
| 17:35.17 | phix | gang |
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| 17:36.17 | EmleyMoor | hasn't built a kernel for ages - but I see you use make deb-pkg now... |
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| 17:51.14 | ieuan | what are you guys' thoughts on the best encrypted/secure communication channels? I've recently set up Torchat, Pidgin-OTR (and Orbot/Gibberbot on my phone, using the same XMPP server/account, routed through Tor) and RetroShare. They all seem pretty convincing, but i don't know enough to learn anything of value from looking at the source code (i don't really speak C/C++ or Java, i develop pretty exclusively in Python and Dart) so y'know, is there a grown-up on |
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| 17:53.01 | petern_ | I'm happy with just using XMPP with TLS. |
| 17:53.25 | petern_ | Probably not for non-local users though. |
| 17:53.45 | petern_ | (Self-hosted XMPP, that is) |
| 17:53.47 | ectospasm | coupling that with something like bitlbee on a VPS, reached via SSH. |
| 17:54.07 | peterrooney | mumpitzel: I have doubts about not being developed any more. Last changelog shows kernel-package modified to deal with kernels > 3.3, and debian stable uses 3.2. |
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| 17:55.20 | mumpitzel | and the kernel isn't 3.3 anymore. read the kernel handbook babilen linked. no more kernel-package |
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| 18:01.31 | ieuan | I'm pretty much looking for advice on which one to advise people to get. I'm the only one of my group of friends who learned how to use -ahem- that .onion hidden website the FBI took down recently, so i get the odd request to order something for someone. I'm also the only one who knows how to use Aircrack-ng and some light MetaSploit, so sometimes people ask me to do something illegal with that. In light of the revelations about PRISM, etc, i'm no longer comf |
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| 18:02.43 | dutchfish | ieuan, its offtopic, but be aware that metasploit got hacked recently |
| 18:02.46 | Glanzmann | Hello; I updated wheezy to sid and downgraded it wheezy again because gcc was broken. Now 'dstat' is complaining, that it is not finding the sched module. What do I need to do track it down? http://pbot.rmdir.de/SYE7dTkIe_A9pLZUdDNkKA |
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| 18:04.50 | mumpitzel | grandie: you cannot downgrade |
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| 18:05.53 | peterrooney | mumpitzel: doing the reading that was recommended, up to ch. 5, and not seeing an explicit note that kernel-package is deprecated. I can only find that a presumably preferable alternative exists. |
| 18:05.56 | Glanzmann | I solved it by purging python2.7 and reinstall dstat |
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| 18:07.05 | babilen | Glanzmann: fwiw, it is quite unlikely that a downgrade from sid to wheezy would work |
| 18:07.15 | grandie | mumpitzel: sorry, i'm not trying to downgrade anything |
| 18:07.28 | ieuan | dutchfish: metasploit got hacked? that's...kind of humorous. Not strictly ironic, but certainly comical. |
| 18:07.31 | babilen | grandie: It was meant for Glanzmann |
| 18:07.47 | grandie | thanks babilen |
| 18:08.00 | dutchfish | ieuan, if you are intrested lets take this to #debian-offtopic |
| 18:08.18 | Glanzmann | babilen: It worked. |
| 18:08.21 | Glanzmann | I did it. |
| 18:08.22 | ieuan | oh, yeah, this is the tech support room, isn't it? |
| 18:08.25 | Glanzmann | twice today. |
| 18:08.34 | babilen | Glanzmann: how? |
| 18:08.48 | Guest17352 | I need some help installing debian on a eufi win8 system and set as a dual boot system |
| 18:08.59 | babilen | ieuan: yes, we have #debian-offtopic for socialising and offtopic discussions :) |
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| 18:10.14 | Guest17352 | anyone doing this... |
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| 18:10.36 | fatjax | hey i was sent here to get some help. Im following some linux tutorials that use debian and running into problems |
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| 18:13.04 | wiak | fatjax what issues*? |
| 18:13.07 | grandie | fatjax: we all run into problems, just ask your questions |
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| 18:13.29 | wiak | some problems are stupidly simple to fix, but others require recompiling |
| 18:13.31 | wiak | ^^ |
| 18:13.31 | fatjax | the tutorial says to do vim hello.txt so i do that but i get not text from the file |
| 18:13.51 | fatjax | now i try it and it says its open somewhere else |
| 18:13.53 | wiak | did you try cat hello.txt |
| 18:13.53 | wiak | ? |
| 18:14.09 | fatjax | so first things first i want to find out how to kill the other process |
| 18:14.12 | wiak | i use nano or pico instead of vim |
| 18:14.14 | wiak | ;) |
| 18:14.18 | fatjax | the tutorial says to use vim thats im using it |
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| 18:14.36 | wiak | fatjax vim isnt easy for beginers |
| 18:14.46 | wiak | pico or nano is awfuly easy compared to vim |
| 18:14.48 | TechLover | Hi, im searching for a tool to detect file changes like git but also in metadata |
| 18:14.49 | babilen | fatjax: okay, try ESC :wq (followed by enter) |
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| 18:14.55 | grandie | fatjax: just type :q! |
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| 18:15.29 | wiak | pico / nano has ctrl x as quit |
| 18:15.52 | fatjax | would id be cat hello.txt ? is there a pipe or something |
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| 18:16.21 | TechLover | I know bup, there is something more simple ? allmost as inode but not so much and also with backup capabilities |
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| 18:19.07 | rue_shop2 | @keys |
| 18:19.10 | rue_shop2 | !keys |
| 18:19.12 | rue_shop2 | ?keys |
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| 18:19.20 | rue_shop2 | debhelper, keys |
| 18:19.26 | rue_shop2 | hmm |
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| 18:19.38 | rue_shop2 | \keys |
| 18:19.58 | rue_shop2 | keys? |
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| 18:20.20 | fatjax | so what text editor would you suggest for a newb? |
| 18:21.14 | babilen | rue_shop2: Are you lost? |
| 18:22.13 | babilen | fatjax: nano is okay to start with, learn vim once you have enough time. ("vimtutor" (command) and http://www.derekwyatt.org/vim/vim-tutorial-videos/ will help with that) |
| 18:22.26 | rue_shop2 | yea, I'm looking for the package that has the package keys in it |
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| 18:22.34 | rue_shop2 | so apt dosn't complain |
| 18:22.52 | fatjax | nano. ok thx |
| 18:22.53 | rue_shop2 | fatjax, nedit |
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| 18:25.07 | fatjax | ok ya nano is easy to use. thx |
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| 18:28.08 | jhutchins | rue_shop2: You can /msg dpkg to explore factoids. |
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| 18:28.46 | Lope | Lets say I use a openvz VPS that comes with a debian wheezy template. how can I encrypt the home dir? or at least a dir inside it? |
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| 18:29.32 | Desheng | can the Pendrivelinux "Universal USB Installer" be used to make a bootable USB debian installer for UEFI systems? My system will boot from an official Windows 8 USB installer drive but it won't boot from the Debian install USB I made. |
| 18:30.09 | jhutchins | !tell rue_shop2 about keys for apt |
| 18:30.57 | rue_shop2 | is there no longer a package one can apt-get? |
| 18:31.04 | rue_shop2 | debian-keyring or soemthing like that |
| 18:31.08 | jhutchins | Desheng: We do not recommend it. |
| 18:31.19 | jhutchins | rue_shop2: See the private message from dpkg |
| 18:31.33 | rue_shop2 | I did, long command string, not what I'm expecting |
| 18:31.55 | rue_shop2 | I'm expecting apt-get install debian-keyring-something-number-soemthing |
| 18:31.59 | Desheng | jhutchins: what do you recommend? My system does not have a CD-ROM drive. |
| 18:32.13 | rue_shop2 | usb cdrom? |
| 18:32.18 | babilen | rue_shop2: You are looking for debian-archive-keyring, but that should be installed by default |
| 18:32.30 | rue_shop2 | maybe I'll see |
| 18:32.43 | rue_shop2 | system was lenny |
| 18:33.11 | jhutchins | Desheng: The install guide has instructions for preparing a bootable usb, it's basically cat debian.iso /dev/sdb or whatever the device is. You can also use dd if=/debian.iso of=/<device> |
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| 18:34.15 | jhutchins | !tell Desheng about ig |
| 18:34.35 | fatjax | hey what exactly is the use for the less command? |
| 18:34.56 | fatjax | im having trouble determining that |
| 18:35.09 | babilen | fatjax: page through pages of information |
| 18:35.15 | jhutchins | fatjax: It's like the more command but you can scroll both directions. |
| 18:35.22 | jhutchins | fatjax: For reading text files. |
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| 18:35.31 | fatjax | ah. so it lets you see less and more |
| 18:35.43 | babilen | fatjax: most is the best btw |
| 18:36.08 | fatjax | I got a command not found for most |
| 18:36.19 | andrew | hi |
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| 18:36.27 | babilen | fatjax: It is a PAGER and simply allows you to paginate incoming text. If that text is read from a file or from, say, stdin doesn't matter. I prefer most as PAGER |
| 18:36.32 | Desheng | alright i'll try dd'ing the ISO directly to the drive |
| 18:36.48 | babilen | fatjax: You can typically install software that is not installed yet ;) |
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| 18:37.01 | fatjax | yummy whast that command? |
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| 18:37.08 | babilen | Desheng: No, use cp! (or dcfldd with a sensible blocksize) |
| 18:37.11 | fatjax | is that the apt -get stuff? |
| 18:37.32 | quinso | Whenever I plug in usb stick with luks+dm-crypt encrypted partition, kde asks me its password and then mounts it as read-only for me. How do I make it automounted not as read-only so even my user can modify contents? |
| 18:37.32 | babilen | fatjax: I would recommend to read http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html (and the rest of that book) |
| 18:37.40 | andrew | hello |
| 18:37.45 | Desheng | I'm making the installation media from within a Windows system, so I don't have that option |
| 18:37.45 | babilen | dpkg: tell fatjax -about basic cli tutorial |
| 18:38.04 | babilen | fatjax: The bot also sent you some links to reasonably good tutorials on how to use the command line. |
| 18:38.11 | whaaat | wut |
| 18:38.14 | babilen | dpkg: tell Desheng -about usb install |
| 18:38.38 | fatjax | i didnt get anything from the bot |
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| 18:38.44 | babilen | dpkg: Use the image writer linked in the factoid out bot just sent you. We've had reports that various "dd-like" tools on Windows don't work that well. |
| 18:38.44 | dpkg | babilen: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 18:39.01 | babilen | Desheng: Use the image writer linked in the factoid out bot just sent you. We've had reports that various "dd-like" tools on Windows don't work that well. |
| 18:39.05 | babilen | dpkg: shush! |
| 18:39.05 | dpkg | Fine, I'll shut up. |
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| 18:39.35 | rue_shop2 | gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv [ID] && gpg --armor --export [ID] | apt-key add - |
| 18:39.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell fatjax about general cli tutorial |
| 18:39.40 | rue_shop2 | ^^ whats [ID] ? |
| 18:39.58 | rue_shop2 | 'STABLE' ? |
| 18:40.12 | babilen | rue_shop2: What are you trying to do? ID in this case is the key id, but you should rarely (if EVER) have to do that. It is also not very secure ... |
| 18:40.40 | rue_shop2 | I'm trying to fix the 'no keys for .... just a sec |
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| 18:41.27 | grandie | my applications listing in the k-menu is blank "nothing showing" how can i get it back |
| 18:41.29 | babilen | rue_shop2: Before you run everything and the kitchen sink you *might* want to provide some information on a pastebing. Include, for example, your command and its output + your /etc/apt/sources.list and the output of "apt-cache policy debian-archive-keyring" |
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| 18:47.26 | Desheng | now I've got to find a .img version of the debian installer? |
| 18:47.50 | jhutchins | babilen: He got that from the keys for apt factiod. I couldn't find one that listed debian-archive-keyring. |
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| 18:53.39 | xmnemonic | Hi everyone |
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| 18:55.03 | Guest17352 | hello xmnemonic |
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| 18:56.49 | Guest17352 | i am looking for a tutorial on installing debian on a win8 system. I have to keep win8 so i need to set it up as a dual boot system. |
| 18:57.07 | Guest17352 | thanks in advance. |
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| 18:58.52 | Desheng | Where can I find a Debian live/install image that I can write with "Win32 Disk Imager"? It wants a .img file instead af a .iso |
| 18:59.06 | jhutchins | Guest17352: first /msg dpkg ig and look at the general install guide. Then /msg dpkg efi |
| 19:00.39 | mumpitzel | Desheng: click in this "file of type *.img" and you can change it to *.* |
| 19:00.52 | mumpitzel | Desheng: or rename the .iso file to .img |
| 19:01.17 | Desheng | will that really work? I'll try that, thanks |
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| 19:01.34 | phix | Desheng: .img and .bin? |
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| 19:02.07 | phix | mumpitzel: .img / .bin is a different format than .iso |
| 19:02.07 | Desheng | I'm trying "Win32 Disk Imager" to write an installer image to a thumb drive because Pendrivelinux's USB maker is not creating bootable media |
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| 19:03.24 | phix | Desheng: why? use imgburn, a free opensource windows CD/DVD image burning application |
| 19:03.48 | phix | or use dd |
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| 19:04.22 | phix | just make a CD/DVD or use a netboot |
| 19:04.29 | Desheng | I'll try that, if this doesn't work |
| 19:05.05 | Guest17352 | it is strange that debian doesn't support intel 64 bit systems and dual boot... unless I am mistaken but there are no instructions for dual boot systems... am I stuck with X86 install? |
| 19:05.30 | phix | Guest17352: ? |
| 19:05.38 | Guest17352 | or is that IA64? |
| 19:05.39 | phix | AMD64 is supported |
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| 19:06.02 | Guest17352 | I have an intel 64 |
| 19:06.10 | phix | IA64? |
| 19:06.21 | phix | or x86 based? |
| 19:06.40 | phix | Guest17352: what is the CPU model? |
| 19:06.57 | Guest17352 | it is an i5 |
| 19:07.11 | phix | ok that is an AMD64 compatible |
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| 19:07.26 | phix | so you use that image |
| 19:08.01 | quinso | How can I make it possible to cryptsetup luksOpen encrypted partitions without superuser? |
| 19:08.15 | phix | you can install further microcode and intel specific modules if you like, but you don't really need to |
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| 19:08.57 | phix | quinso: use pam, so when a user logs on the password they enter in is used to unencrypt a disc / loop file system |
| 19:09.01 | Komiblanka | hello everyone |
| 19:09.07 | phix | Komiblanka: werd up |
| 19:09.14 | Komiblanka | here we are |
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| 19:09.26 | phix | Komiblanka: correct |
| 19:09.31 | Komiblanka | Trying to make my laptop "speak" |
| 19:09.33 | quinso | phix: pam - portable arbitrary map file format |
| 19:09.33 | quinso | Is this what you mean |
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| 19:09.36 | Komiblanka | no sound :( |
| 19:09.48 | phix | quinso: plugable authentication module? I think |
| 19:10.03 | Komiblanka | lspci | grep sound |
| 19:10.04 | phix | Komiblanka: Have you consulted a doctor? |
| 19:10.10 | Komiblanka | hehe |
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| 19:10.16 | Komiblanka | I'm trying to ;) |
| 19:10.21 | Komiblanka | are you a doctor? |
| 19:10.22 | Komiblanka | hehe |
| 19:11.15 | phix | only in linux related matters, but if your deafness was caused by redirecting /dev/random to your speakers at high volume then you should consult a pyshician |
| 19:11.23 | quinso | phix: did you say that the same password I use for logging in as user will be used to mount the partition? |
| 19:11.32 | Komiblanka | lol |
| 19:11.35 | phix | quinso: correct |
| 19:11.50 | quinso | phix: I don't want that. The encrypted partitions have other password. |
| 19:11.51 | phix | quinso: that is one way to do it |
| 19:12.10 | Komiblanka | nah, I got this ultrabook http://www.tiendatoshiba.es/portatiles-consumo/637-toshiba-portege-z930-ssd-145-4051528023824.html#details |
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| 19:12.28 | Komiblanka | with sound card ALC269Q-VB5-GR |
| 19:12.30 | phix | quinso: you can assign up to 8 or so different keys to a luks encrypted volume |
| 19:12.40 | Komiblanka | and I'm trying to learn how to make it work |
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| 19:13.11 | Komiblanka | lspci | grep sound gives out nothing |
| 19:13.27 | phix | quinso: or if you dont want the key to be the same as your logon password then you can use sudo and specify that it doesn't prompt you for a password when you type in the mount /me/encrypted/image command |
| 19:13.45 | quinso | phix: I don't want to assign a new key to it. Actually the problem is whenever I mount this usb stick encrypted partition with sudo, it becomes readonly for common user. |
| 19:13.58 | fatjax | ok maybe you guys can help me i cant find this one online. Why does ls -al show a total of 52 files but only about 8 are listed? |
| 19:14.04 | phix | quinso: you can assign more than one key to unlock the file with |
| 19:14.08 | quinso | phix: does that mean storing the password somewhere on the computer? |
| 19:14.13 | quinso | I do want to enter the password. |
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| 19:14.38 | quinso | I mean the luks container's password |
| 19:14.39 | phix | no, it means you don't have to enter in your logon password first then your encryption password / key |
| 19:14.58 | phix | using sudo you can get aroun having to type in 2 passwords instead of one |
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| 19:15.29 | quinso | phix: so what that thing actually does is allows me to sudo some commands without entering sudo password? |
| 19:15.37 | phix | correct |
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| 19:16.04 | phix | with sudo you can specify the exact commands that can be entered in without having to specify your logon passworfd |
| 19:16.22 | phix | with pam you can mount encrypted images that have the same key as your logon password |
| 19:16.23 | Desheng | hey thanks for the idea to write the image right to the drive, it didn't get me to a working installer but I at least got the computer to boot GRUB from the drive |
| 19:16.27 | quinso | phix: that's not what I wanted to do. When I luksOpen the drive with sudo and then mount it with sudo, it appears readonly for the user. I thought if I luksOpened and mounted as user, it wouldn't be readonly. |
| 19:16.35 | phix | Desheng: yay |
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| 19:16.55 | Desheng | phix what was the other software you were referring to earlier for writing an image to a drive? |
| 19:16.57 | phix | quinso: oh, that all depends on the filesystem you use |
| 19:17.03 | phix | Desheng: dd |
| 19:17.07 | Desheng | besides dd |
| 19:17.21 | Desheng | I know I can get dd for windows but I think you mentioned another one too |
| 19:17.30 | phix | Desheng: imgburn |
| 19:17.51 | quinso | phix: it's ext4 |
| 19:17.57 | phix | quinso: if the user can't write to it then it is a permission problem |
| 19:18.07 | phix | you need to chown / chmod / setfacl |
| 19:18.18 | phix | give the user filesystem permission to write to it |
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| 19:18.55 | phix | quinso: do you need to use the same file system in more than one different linux installation / different computer? |
| 19:19.05 | quinso | phix: I do |
| 19:19.25 | phix | and they have differnt uid/gids for your users? or are they synced? |
| 19:20.09 | phix | is UID 1000 on your computer the same as UID 1000 on the computer you are reading the encrypted data on another computer with? |
| 19:20.24 | quinso | I don't even know what you are talking about |
| 19:20.33 | phix | (for example, UID 1000 is usually assigned to the first user you create in a debian system) |
| 19:20.47 | phix | quinso: you know what file system permissions are right? |
| 19:20.55 | quinso | I would like the file system to be usable by any user who know the encryption password |
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| 19:21.07 | phix | you know that every user has a UID (a number) assigned to it? |
| 19:21.10 | qwoox | hey guys ... can you maybe tell me why make doesnt generates a bzImage under 7.1 for me? |
| 19:21.14 | quinso | phix: I don't |
| 19:21.37 | phix | quinso: ok so if any user mounts it do you want every other user on that system to be able to write to it as well? |
| 19:21.53 | phix | assuming the system has more than one user on it that may use the system |
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| 19:22.13 | quinso | phix: Shouldn't the user who mounts it decide that with mount flags or something? |
| 19:22.17 | qwoox | phix: may you help me with my question too, after this? :) |
| 19:22.43 | quinso | phix: probably I want only the user who mounted it + the superuser to be able to work with itr |
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| 19:23.22 | rryoumaa | hmm, on wheezy, aptitude wants to update the kernel, init, dpkg, the device mapper!, and other stuff. yet the security list does not mention those things. |
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| 19:23.48 | phix | quinso: nope, the permission are in the ext4 file system, after you mount it whatever the permissions that have been asigned to the filesystem will apply to the systme you mounted it on, ext4 uses numbers to specify who a user is, if your users UID is 1000 and you mount it on another system and your uers UID on that system is not 1000 then they wont have permission to itm |
| 19:24.18 | quinso | phix: It seems that ext4 doesn't suit good for usb stick then. |
| 19:24.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell Desheng -about usb install |
| 19:24.23 | quinso | Shoudl I choose another file system? |
| 19:24.46 | phix | quinso: sure, you can use NTFS or FAT |
| 19:25.23 | phix | or only access the drive as root |
| 19:25.28 | phix | or set the permissions to 777 |
| 19:25.36 | qwoox | rryoumaa: is there no way to compile custom kernels? o_O |
| 19:25.40 | phix | however when you mount the filesystem other users on that system will have permission to write to it |
| 19:25.55 | rryoumaa | qwoox: why are you asking? |
| 19:26.29 | qwoox | rryoumaa: i thought you answered my question haha |
| 19:26.49 | phix | quinso: personally I Use NTFS for removable media as I can access it in Linux, MAC OSX and windows + I can write files larger than 2Gb in it (unlike FAT32) |
| 19:26.55 | quinso | There should be the way to disrespect the external storage's file system permissions and policy. |
| 19:27.10 | phix | quinso: sure, it is called using the root account |
| 19:27.30 | phix | quinso: or setting the permission as 777 |
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| 19:27.48 | phix | (read write execute for user, group and other) |
| 19:28.02 | quinso | The compatibility with windows and mac are probably out of question because it's in luks container |
| 19:28.41 | phix | quinso: ok so set the permission as 777 but mount it under a directory that only has the permission of the user on that system that you want to beable to access the drive |
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| 19:29.00 | quinso | phix: ok, maybe that's the way. |
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| 19:29.31 | phix | so mount to /mnt/quinso/myLuks, myluks has 777 permission when you mount it and /mnt/quinso has 700 and chowned to the UID of quinso on that system |
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| 19:29.56 | quinso | phix: ok, I'll do that. Thanks for help. |
| 19:30.00 | phix | <3 |
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| 19:30.20 | phix | quinso: I also recommend using the acl mount option |
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| 19:31.19 | phix | quinso: after it is mounted with that mount option type in the following: sudo setfacl -m u::rwx,g::rwx,o::rwx /mnt/quinso/myluks, then sudo setfacl -dm u::rwx,g::rwx,o::rwx /mnt/quinso/myluks |
| 19:31.46 | phix | that means all files and directories you create with have the 777 permission assigned to it no matter the umask |
| 19:31.52 | phix | or user that created the file |
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| 19:32.26 | quinso | phix: do I need to setfacl on everycomputer where I use the usb stick or only once? |
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| 19:32.40 | phix | nope |
| 19:32.49 | phix | only once when you mount the filesystem |
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| 19:33.07 | phix | then every other time you mount the file system it will apply (however you need to mount it with the acl option on every system) |
| 19:33.12 | rryoumaa | http://sprunge.us/aSRe does this output mean that curl was fixed in security, and then upgraded in regular wheezy? |
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| 19:34.02 | phix | quinso: so in otherwords, no you don't have to do it every time, only once, but you need to use the acl option on every mount |
| 19:34.09 | {monica} | Hi, I have question about OpenLDAP 2.4. How to increase olcSizeLimit? I can't find the command |
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| 19:34.16 | C00re | what is that setfacl? |
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| 19:34.30 | phix | C00re: you use it to set posix file system permissions |
| 19:34.42 | C00re | hmh ok.. |
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| 19:34.57 | quinso | phix: ok, do you know by chance how to tell kde thing that mounts using gui where to mount it and what options to use |
| 19:35.05 | phix | C00re: so you can assigned more than one user or group to a file or directory as well as default permissions to a directory for when you create a new file or directory within it |
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| 19:35.38 | C00re | interesting |
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| 19:36.01 | phix | quinso: no I do not, however #kde may know and http://www.lmftfy.com/?q=kde+mount+acl+option might too |
| 19:36.27 | quinso | phix: oh and btw if I copy files from that usb stick to my computer will their permissions be 777 too? |
| 19:36.29 | phix | C00re: it is useful especially when you are using samba to share files and folders with windows computers |
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| 19:36.58 | phix | quinso: nope, it will be what ever the umask is unless you specify -a in copy (and that will perserve the permissions |
| 19:37.02 | phix | ) |
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| 19:37.18 | C00re | can it be used with nfs too? |
| 19:37.30 | quinso | This all is so fucked up. |
| 19:37.40 | phix | C00re: probably not, nfs != ext4 |
| 19:37.48 | C00re | kk :) |
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| 19:38.02 | phix | it is a filesystem dependant command |
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| 19:38.31 | phix | C00re: it works with ext2/3/4, reiserfs (the filesystem developer by a wife murder), jfs and xfs |
| 19:38.41 | phix | maybe more that are posix compliant |
| 19:38.55 | phix | developed* |
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| 19:40.10 | phix | "Namesys considered ReiserFS (now occasionally referred to as Reiser3) stable and feature-complete and, with the exception of security updates and critical bug fixes, ceased development on it to concentrate on its successor, Reiser4. Namesys went out of business in 2008 after Reiser was charged with the murder of his wife. However, volunteers continue to work on the open source project.[4]" |
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| 19:43.16 | Sary | rryoumaa: if you were referring to 'cUrl heap overflow vulnerability', then yes! # see http://www.debian.org/security/2013/dsa-2713 |
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| 19:46.01 | xlq | ffplay has disappeared from Debian unstable! |
| 19:46.51 | rryoumaa | Sary: that seems to be the library only, so not related. i am asking because i find it strange that wheezy wants to update so many basic things |
| 19:47.45 | rryoumaa | Sary: of course it |
| 19:48.11 | rryoumaa | 's possible that it is that bug, and curl is updated because of its dependency even though it is not affected |
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| 19:55.17 | Sary | rryoumaa: basic things! |
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| 20:00.30 | jhutchins | ,versions ffplay |
| 20:00.31 | judd | No package named 'ffplay' was found in i386. |
| 20:01.44 | BitPuffin | is there a backports repo for jessie yet? |
| 20:01.59 | jhutchins | BitPuffin: How could there be? |
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| 20:04.34 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: dunno lol, I just want the fglrx-legacy for jessie >.< |
| 20:04.41 | BitPuffin | which was in backports |
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| 20:04.57 | jhutchins | !backports |
| 20:04.57 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 20:05.36 | jhutchins | BitPuffin: Packages for testing go directly into the main repository. |
| 20:06.16 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: hmm, but there is no legacy package |
| 20:06.23 | djp5592 | I'm working on writing a script that will get the vendor and device ID from lsusb, and then enter them as a variable into a udev rule. This is what I have: http://paste.debian.net/56808/ |
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| 20:07.22 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: I mean fglrx legacy |
| 20:07.26 | rryoumaa | Sary: (if you missed the scrollback, i was referring to dpkg, kernel, device mapper etc.) |
| 20:08.12 | jhutchins | ,versions fglrx-legacy |
| 20:08.13 | judd | No package named 'fglrx-legacy' was found in i386. |
| 20:08.41 | BitPuffin | fglrx-legacy-driver |
| 20:08.48 | BitPuffin | , versions fglrx-legacy-driver |
| 20:08.49 | judd | Package: fglrx-legacy-driver on i386 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 8.97.100.7-3~bpo70+1; sid/non-free: 8.97.100.7-4 |
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| 20:09.06 | BitPuffin | hmm |
| 20:09.12 | BitPuffin | so it is in sid and wheezy but not jessie? |
| 20:09.14 | BitPuffin | That's weird |
| 20:09.29 | jhutchins | BitPuffin: Hasn't made it from sid yet. Might not be stable. |
| 20:09.54 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: it should be as stable as it was in wheezy, considering they don't update it anymore |
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| 20:10.39 | jhutchins | BitPuffin: That's one of the disadvantages of trying to treat testing as a working release. Sometimes packages aren't available for a while. |
| 20:10.58 | SuperPhly | Hey folks, I've got a server (not behind a firewall) in a datacenter and I'm wondering if rpcbind is a good idea to have running? There IS a chance I will be using NFS with a second box in the same datacenter, but that'll be through a cross over cable. |
| 20:11.20 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: But maybe it is that they want to apply patches for newer kernel versions etc. That's what's currently happening in arch (but I'm thinking about switching to debian again). So It will keep working with new kernel even though nobody at ATI is updating it |
| 20:11.28 | ompaul | SuperPhly: NFS stands for No Fine Security or some such ... |
| 20:11.33 | jhutchins | BitPuffin: looks like it's been updated from 7-3 to 7-4, and it will, if it's not too buggy, eventually make it to testing. |
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| 20:11.53 | ompaul | SuperPhly: suggest you look at sshfs or something with at least a modicum of security |
| 20:11.56 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 20:11.57 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.11-trunk-686-pae (3.11-1~exp1); sid: 3.10-3-686-pae (3.10.11-1); jessie: 3.10-3-686-pae (3.10.11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.10-0.bpo.3-686-pae (3.10.11-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.51-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
| 20:12.08 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: might be kernel patches then, maybe it hasn't been tested enough on experimental to be included? |
| 20:12.18 | SuperPhly | ompaul: is sshfs stable enough? |
| 20:12.38 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: If someone wants me to test it in experimental to see if it works in order to get it in testing I'd probably be up for it :) |
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| 20:13.06 | jhutchins | BitPuffin: Well, it's not in experimental, which makes sense, as it's not exactly cutting edge. |
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| 20:14.56 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: oh wait |
| 20:15.07 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: I might be confusing sid with experimental, what is sid for again? |
| 20:15.14 | jhutchins | !sid |
| 20:15.14 | dpkg | [sid] the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 20:15.20 | BitPuffin | right unstable |
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| 20:15.28 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: maybe they want me to test it in unstable |
| 20:15.29 | Sary | rryoumaa: that's weird indeed! i'm on jessie, are you sure you don't have a mixed of wheezy/jessie in your sources.list! |
| 20:15.33 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: to get it in testing |
| 20:16.02 | peterrooney | Am trying the heresy that is Fedora (in virtualbox on wheezy), and am finding the installer as zippy as a drugged snail. |
| 20:16.04 | jhutchins | BitPuffin: I believe these things are discussed in the mailing list. Part of the process is automated. |
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| 20:16.30 | ompaul | SuperPhly: what does enough mean ... you can use it you can do stuff to it with it and what not |
| 20:18.36 | SuperPhly | ompaul: having a connection reliably setup for months, potentially a year at a time? |
| 20:19.04 | Sary | ,dpkg |
| 20:19.42 | ompaul | I've seen nfs fail in that time and if you have an internet facing box(es) and you are not updating them - happy recovery time |
| 20:20.47 | ompaul | SuperPhly: also I don't like it when you ask more or less the same questions in two channels at the same time |
| 20:22.04 | SuperPhly | ompaul: well, how about different irc networks? do I need to submit a form or documentation if I want to ask this question on a message board? |
| 20:22.24 | SuperPhly | ompaul: aside from that, thanks for the input. |
| 20:22.37 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: you think I should ask? |
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| 20:27.12 | ompaul | does not point out to SuperPhly that using OpenVPN between the hosts would allow you use NFS inside it |
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| 20:28.25 | SuperPhly | well, it's already using a patch cable between the two boxes, on a private network /252 |
| 20:28.48 | ompaul | so open to on the wire interception |
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| 20:32.51 | BitPuffin | or maybe I should run stable until it reaches testing |
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| 20:35.05 | grammoboy | how do I install build dependencies= |
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| 20:35.17 | grammoboy | ? |
| 20:35.23 | qaz | hi all |
| 20:36.05 | grammoboy | build-dep does not work |
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| 20:36.24 | frikinz | lazy build-dep |
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| 20:36.42 | qaz | for some readon hdparm -S x (seconds) /dev/sdb is ignored the only one its workin is hdparm -Y /dev/sdb |
| 20:36.45 | grammoboy | ah it does |
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| 20:38.03 | qaz | disk is always used for some reson when I try to umount I can't becuse some process used it |
| 20:38.21 | qaz | but lsof of fuser don't showing any process |
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| 20:39.26 | rryoumaa | Sary: i have the standard wheezy source.list, with the addition of contrib and backports |
| 20:40.16 | qaz | iotop also don't showing any process using sdb |
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| 20:40.33 | qaz | I really don't understand why |
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| 20:40.43 | qaz | the hd is always on |
| 20:43.07 | frikinz | qaz: does dmesg shows anything? |
| 20:43.48 | frikinz | like IO errors |
| 20:44.10 | qaz | nope |
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| 20:45.38 | qaz | te hd is formatted in ext4 RO , with noatime and nodiratime |
| 20:45.49 | qaz | for some reason is always in use |
| 20:46.07 | qaz | any other program I can use to check why this appening |
| 20:47.24 | qaz | ? |
| 20:47.52 | frikinz | qaz: which kernel is this? |
| 20:48.03 | frikinz | uname -a |
| 20:48.09 | qaz | 3.10 |
| 20:48.53 | qaz | mmmhh somebody can invite me on debian-next pls |
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| 20:49.46 | NotJimCarrey | i'm running sid on an asus g53jw, can someone please help me get backlight control? |
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| 20:55.01 | qaz | hdparm -Y working...so maybe the best thing is to create a cron job? |
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| 20:58.50 | xshad | not sure what's going on. I can mount any sd card/usb at boot time, but I can't mount them again if the system is running. Anyone else had/having something like this? |
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| 20:59.23 | qaz | any dmesg error? |
| 20:59.28 | xshad | nope |
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| 21:00.01 | Sary | NotJimCarrey: have you tried with xblacklight or hotkeys! |
| 21:00.04 | xshad | let me pastebin the dev/sde lines, brb |
| 21:00.07 | qaz | welcome in the Club :) |
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| 21:01.38 | NotJimCarrey | Sary: yes |
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| 21:02.06 | xshad | http://pastebin.ca/2466126 |
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| 21:02.37 | xshad | I had 1 USB and 1 SD connected at this time (booting) |
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| 21:03.28 | xshad | sad |
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| 21:04.47 | qaz | did you check the sd with fsck? |
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| 21:06.33 | xshad | not yet :) I don't think this is the problem, since I can mount it anywhere else, like cameras and another laptops |
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| 21:06.51 | frikinz | is this trough a usb hub? |
| 21:07.30 | xshad | yes |
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| 21:07.46 | frikinz | sucks too much power.. |
| 21:07.53 | xshad | lol |
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| 21:08.52 | xshad | it's funny, I can auto-mount some usb sticks, but can't do it on SD or cameras and mobile phones |
| 21:09.41 | xshad | even changing the actions on org.freedesktop.udisks2.policy didn't work |
| 21:09.58 | xshad | and they mount at boot time |
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| 21:11.22 | Sary | NotJimCarrey: what's you GPU, and what is in your /sys/class/backlight dir ! |
| 21:11.45 | NotJimCarrey | GTX 460M |
| 21:12.02 | NotJimCarrey | acpi_video0 nvidia_backlight |
| 21:13.10 | frikinz | xshad: looks like an electrical problem. can't remember exactly but low device can drain 150mA and high power 500mA. It can also be usb cable. Samsung gave me a nice cable that has a high drop so with original cable, it charges 30% time longer than with a cheap usb cable |
| 21:13.44 | frikinz | xshad: powered hub are better |
| 21:13.47 | NotJimCarrey | max_brightness is 127, but brightness has 10150 |
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| 21:15.34 | NotJimCarrey | echoing values into brightness of either has no effect |
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| 21:15.50 | xshad | frinkinz, they used to mount before the last updates, and they mount on a macbook and another laptops with wheezy (same cables) |
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| 21:16.14 | funky | hi people |
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| 21:17.19 | funky | why is network-manager kill invoked before umountnfs.sh in run levels 6 and 0 (reboot & halt) ? |
| 21:17.26 | Sary | NotJimCarrey: perhaps xrandr is looking at the wrong path! |
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| 21:17.48 | Sary | NotJimCarrey: which DE you're running! |
| 21:18.13 | funky | due this fact, the reboot (or halt) takes a lot because the umountnfs is delaying until it times out (I guess), because of the lack of network capabilities |
| 21:18.21 | NotJimCarrey | Sary: DE? |
| 21:18.37 | funky | desktop environment? |
| 21:18.41 | NotJimCarrey | oh |
| 21:18.46 | NotJimCarrey | FXCE/E18 |
| 21:18.54 | NotJimCarrey | s/FXCE/XFCE |
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| 21:22.16 | funky | I've found this bug which explains exactly my problem: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=641894 |
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| 21:23.24 | Sary | NotJimCarrey: doesn't xfce has a brightness control of ti's on! what output you get if you run ' xbacklight -40 ' ! |
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| 21:23.34 | xshad | funky, you might give wicd a try |
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| 21:23.53 | xshad | as a workaround while this isn't fixed |
| 21:24.31 | NotJimCarrey | Sary: nothing happens |
| 21:25.03 | funky | mmm I'll take a look, I could just use /etc/network/interfaces or just modify runlevel scripts order, but it seems quite old and evident this bug, which surprises me a lot it's been not fixed yet |
| 21:25.09 | oo_miguel | does this mean that I should throw out this disk: http://paste.debian.net/56820/ ? |
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| 21:27.09 | alonzoh | oo_miguel: disks not doing what you want mean you should |
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| 21:28.06 | oo_miguel | alonzoh: sounds right :) |
| 21:28.08 | oo_miguel | tahnks |
| 21:28.12 | oo_miguel | just wanted to make sure |
| 21:28.33 | alonzoh | to me that means it doesn't do what I expect of a disk |
| 21:28.40 | alonzoh | storing data, easily accessing that data |
| 21:28.44 | alonzoh | if it's external, not being too loud |
| 21:28.47 | alonzoh | that's all |
| 21:29.19 | frikinz | can also be a kernel bug... that happened to me and I still have the disk |
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| 21:32.16 | oo_miguel | ok thanks for the advices |
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| 21:36.13 | Sary | NotJimCarrey: i had a such an issue with a friend of mine old's toshiba, am just trying to get my head around this .. |
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| 21:41.50 | NotJimCarrey | Sary: thanks, but don't try too hard; it's one of those things I've been working on for a long time |
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| 21:48.20 | Sary | NotJimCarrey: it's alright, i am just looking for the steps i took to debug the issue .. |
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| 21:52.26 | smiths | ssh http://root@162.243.39.205:fred2fred |
| 21:53.12 | alonzoh | dear lord |
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| 21:55.08 | Xav0t | Hi guys, can anyone tell me which would be the steps in order to determine if one has been pwned. |
| 21:55.13 | Xav0t | ? |
| 21:57.11 | rryoumaa | Xav0t: there is a section on that in the debian user reference or whatever it is called, the one by osamu aoki |
| 21:57.13 | tremon | Xav0t: if you find yourself sharing the most inane details of your life with the world, you have been infected |
| 21:57.47 | rryoumaa | although i mighjt also be referring to the debian security manual |
| 21:57.50 | Xav0t | Damn, I just spotted my PC doing a connection to a Tor node. |
| 21:58.12 | Xav0t | That can only be a botnet, I'm I mistaken ?. |
| 21:58.21 | rryoumaa | might be used for some other purpose |
| 21:58.29 | ompaul | if you don't use tor and it is doing it - what do you think the chances it was doing it |
| 21:58.36 | ompaul | were |
| 21:58.45 | rryoumaa | is it connecting via tor? |
| 21:58.52 | Xav0t | I do use Whonix wk and gw, as well as Tails. |
| 21:59.03 | ompaul | so that is tor based |
| 21:59.06 | Xav0t | I just saw it a couple of seconds ago ... |
| 21:59.09 | ompaul | and not debian |
| 21:59.19 | Xav0t | Yeah, but I'm running crunchbang. |
| 21:59.21 | ompaul | !based on debian |
| 21:59.21 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 22:00.26 | labe | ciao |
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| 22:01.19 | Sary | NotJimCarrey: the issue may belong to the kernel,udev mapping,acpi-support,xserver-xorg-input-evdev, or xkeyboard-config packages! i'd look at these logs to spot any 'error,warnnings' # cat /var/log/dmesg , Xorg.0.log , syslog , i'd also try to change the keyboard settings https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard |
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| 22:16.15 | tidux | what's up with Mesa 9.2 being stuck in Experimental? |
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| 22:16.45 | tidux | it's been sitting there for over a month now, when even freaking OpenBSD thinks it's ready for their unstable channel |
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| 22:18.14 | Sary | NotJimCarrey: just so you know it's a common issue #see http://www.linlap.com/asus_g53jw |
| 22:18.30 | obake | how hard is it to upgrade from wheezy to sid |
| 22:18.57 | dvs | !iyhtays obake |
| 22:18.58 | dpkg | obake: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
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| 22:20.22 | obake | i mean, it's as easy as just changing the repos and dist-upg right |
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| 22:23.07 | ompaul | and reducing the repos to exactly two machines one for debs and one for sources |
| 22:23.17 | ompaul | no security no updates |
| 22:23.24 | ompaul | where do you think they come from anyway :) |
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| 22:23.36 | ompaul | you are trusting versions to keep you safe |
| 22:24.25 | ompaul | obake: and if you do go there you can only use dist-upgrade all the time (which is the same for testing) |
| 22:24.45 | ompaul | not safe this or unsafe that - just straight honest to goodness d-u |
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| 22:26.33 | Sary | NotJimCarrey: mind pastebin the output of ' lspci -vnn ' and ' lshw -C Video '. |
| 22:27.01 | Sary | NotJimCarrey: and ' sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name ' |
| 22:27.24 | obake | I'm doing it. Hope I don't end up having to wipe lol |
| 22:28.16 | ompaul | if you do it right and remember to read what is offered during an upgrade you'll be ok - mess about with multiple repos and the like and forget it all bets are off you get what you pay for and when it breaks you keep the pieces |
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| 22:38.30 | WilliamDotSI | i think i hit a weird bug with NFS |
| 22:38.35 | WilliamDotSI | can someone look over this? |
| 22:38.36 | WilliamDotSI | http://paste.ee/p/gWOlF |
| 22:39.47 | WilliamDotSI | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/8da57cf2/ |
| 22:39.50 | WilliamDotSI | better readable |
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| 22:41.50 | asduk | hello |
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| 22:43.36 | asduk | Im installing Kali Right now and during the installation theres a step named Download intaller components qhere i need to enter a mirror to install debian from it. But every link i enter it says : Bad architecture mirror |
| 22:43.40 | asduk | please help me |
| 22:43.51 | WilliamDotSI | hm |
| 22:43.57 | WilliamDotSI | what cd/dvd do you use? |
| 22:44.12 | WilliamDotSI | sounds like you have a false one (which actually should not boot) |
| 22:44.29 | WilliamDotSI | or the mirror you use does not carry the arch (like if you use arm or armel) |
| 22:44.37 | WilliamDotSI | or, you type the wrong url |
| 22:44.49 | asduk | Kali mini iso |
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| 22:45.17 | WilliamDotSI | try to find another mirror |
| 22:45.29 | asduk | I tryied like 15 of them |
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| 22:45.40 | WilliamDotSI | hm try different urls |
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| 22:46.09 | asduk | i already tryied a lot |
| 22:46.16 | asduk | im on a 32bit pc |
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| 22:46.29 | MAD_DOG | INVITATION http://www.tatuuu.com.br |
| 22:46.47 | Sary | !kali |
| 22:46.47 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 22:47.07 | asduk | thx ..... |
| 22:47.27 | Sary | always md5usm check an iso before burrning. |
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| 23:10.07 | BitPuffin | ,versions xfce |
| 23:10.09 | judd | No package named 'xfce' was found in i386. |
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| 23:10.37 | ectospasm | ,versions xfce4 |
| 23:10.38 | judd | Package: xfce4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.6.2; wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; sid: 4.10.1 |
| 23:11.04 | BitPuffin | ah |
| 23:11.24 | BitPuffin | is there a way to get 4.10 on wheezy without pain? |
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| 23:11.43 | ectospasm | you can check backports |
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| 23:13.45 | jhutchins | ectospasm: Judd indexes backports too. xfce is too complex, too many package to manage in backports. Backports is mostly for single packages. |
| 23:14.25 | jhutchins | BitPuffin: I understand arch is a good distro if you like the software all new and bleedy. |
| 23:14.27 | Guest72035 | what package is ffmpeg? |
| 23:14.44 | jhutchins | !tell Guest72035 about search |
| 23:14.58 | jhutchins | Guest72035: I think it's part of mplayer, but not sure if it's a seperate package. |
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| 23:17.15 | Guest72035 | i have mplayer installed but ffmpeg isn't recongnized on cli |
| 23:18.38 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: well I am currently running arch but I am considering switching to debian |
| 23:18.56 | acemi | Guest72035: try avconv |
| 23:19.19 | BitPuffin | jhutchins: Because i am gonna try and start doing production stuff and I want a system that doesn't break. I currently don't even use xfce but I was thinking maybe I should start using it because it is less hassle than just running a wm |
| 23:19.36 | ectospasm | depends on the wm |
| 23:19.47 | ectospasm | I run Xfce4 + XMonad |
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| 23:20.01 | ectospasm | ...mainly because I like icons on my panel instead of just text. |
| 23:20.13 | BitPuffin | ectospasm: I currently run brae i3 |
| 23:20.15 | BitPuffin | on arch |
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| 23:20.29 | BitPuffin | But maybe I should run i3 + xfce4 :) |
| 23:20.31 | BitPuffin | But |
| 23:20.33 | ectospasm | If I lost every copy of my xmonad.hs file, I'd give i3wm a shot |
| 23:20.42 | quinso | What is group with the name the same as username supposed to be used for? |
| 23:20.45 | Guest72035 | acemi, is it the same thing? |
| 23:20.51 | BitPuffin | I would kind of like to be able switch between i3 and the xfce wm |
| 23:20.58 | ectospasm | but I've got too much blood, sweat, and tears sunk into my xmonad config |
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| 23:21.03 | BitPuffin | Because like while coding it is awesome to have the tiling |
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| 23:21.16 | BitPuffin | less so when doing games etc |
| 23:21.24 | BitPuffin | however even when coding games i3 becomes a poin |
| 23:21.27 | BitPuffin | pain |
| 23:21.43 | BitPuffin | because I don't want the game window to tile |
| 23:22.54 | acemi | Guest72035: avconv is a fork of ffmpeg. ffmpeg is not in debian repo. or use deb-multimedia repo |
| 23:23.15 | ectospasm | you can't program it to be fullscreen? In xmonad you just set the layout to Full, and then hide the panel. |
| 23:24.41 | BitPuffin | ectospasm: you can do fullscreen yes, but it isn't automatic, well you probably can make it so i dunno :P |
| 23:25.07 | ectospasm | yeah, in xmonad you can set any default layout |
| 23:25.21 | ectospasm | you can even tell certain windows to not have the focus border |
| 23:25.32 | ectospasm | or tell them not to tile |
| 23:25.46 | BitPuffin | ectospasm: well yeah you can toggle etc, but it isn't automatic? |
| 23:26.46 | ectospasm | BitPuffin: in xmonad you can program it so certain programs are always floating, or never steal focus |
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| 23:29.28 | BitPuffin | ectospasm: hm, maybe i3 can do that too, I haven't had time to dig through the manual yet |
| 23:29.45 | BitPuffin | ectospasm: I have used xmonad, awesome and i3 though, I find i3 a bit easier to control |
| 23:30.13 | ectospasm | xmonad is terribly difficult to program for, unless you already are good with Haskell |
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| 23:33.10 | BitPuffin | ectospasm: yep I know, haskell is awesome, I am not particularily good at it though |
| 23:34.04 | ectospasm | yeah, I would need to take a whole course in it. Self-guided stuff just doesn't work for me, at least for functional languages, anyway. |
| 23:35.02 | BitPuffin | ectospasm: I think it does work, just that there is a lot of time to invest in haha |
| 23:35.17 | BitPuffin | ectospasm: let me link you to a nice roadmap or what one should call it |
| 23:35.29 | ectospasm | yes... and since I don't use it every day, I have to relearn it every time I want to make major changes. |
| 23:35.45 | ectospasm | luckily I have it where I want it |
| 23:36.11 | ectospasm | I'm loath to delve into it to erase the final rough edges... |
| 23:36.13 | BitPuffin | ectospasm: http://yannesposito.com/Scratch/en/blog/Yesod-tutorial-for-newbies/ at the bottom here there are some nice steps to follow to learn haskell with good resources (don't mind the tutorial unless you are interested in yesod) |
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| 23:37.01 | ectospasm | Learn You a Haskell for Great Good is decent, but I tend to lose interest halfway down the page. |
| 23:37.31 | ectospasm | but #xmonad and #haskell have been instrumental to my xmonad.hs |
| 23:37.53 | ectospasm | it has grown rather organically over the two or three years I've been running it. |
| 23:37.55 | ectospasm | !ot |
| 23:37.55 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 23:42.02 | Gargantua | Anyone know if urxvt supports arabic script? |
| 23:42.25 | Gargantua | If not, anyone know a terminal emulator that does? |
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| 23:43.46 | ectospasm | I think it does |
| 23:44.05 | Gargantua | How do I... enable it? |
| 23:44.06 | ectospasm | That's what the 'u' in urxvt means: Unicode |
| 23:44.12 | Gargantua | Yeah I thought so too. |
| 23:44.17 | Gargantua | Been using urxvt for ages. |
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| 23:45.30 | Gargantua | Would hate to switch to something else just because I can't cd into directories with names written in arabic |
| 23:45.31 | ectospasm | https://www.google.com/search?q=urxvt+arabic&oq=urxvt+arabic&aqs=chrome..69i57.3618j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 |
| 23:45.59 | Sary | Gargantua: I know Konsole does. |
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| 23:48.22 | Gargantua | i'm trying out mlterm |
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| 23:50.00 | Gargantua | Konsole alone is not worth getting KDE & Friends :P |
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| 23:57.37 | Gargantua | mlterm seems to work. It's really ugly though. |
| 23:57.56 | Gargantua | guess i'll just use it when I have to |
| 23:58.37 | ectospasm | you can probably massage urxvt to do what you want. It's designed to display two different character sets attractively |
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