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| 00:07.59 | gregor_ | Hi |
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| 00:08.07 | gregor_ | Can annyone help me |
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| 00:09.26 | gregor_ | If i mount my harddrive all applications need root previlegs to acsess |
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| 00:10.02 | gregor_ | Its fat32 formatted and debian is installed on another one! |
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| 00:11.49 | holycow | hi everyone |
| 00:12.21 | holycow | when using dd to take an image of a hard drive, does dd just quit when it hits the 'end' of the drive being cloned? |
| 00:12.37 | holycow | i have a 500gb drive and so far it has cloned 592gb ... which is strange to me |
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| 00:13.08 | jhutchins | !tell gregor_ about user accessible ntfs |
| 00:13.18 | jhutchins | gregor_: Same principles shoud apply. |
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| 00:16.08 | Sary | qwoox: what debian release you're running, and which kernel you're trying to compile! |
| 00:16.10 | jhutchins | holycow: It should only copy the available data, but different things measure data differently. |
| 00:16.26 | gregor_ | me |
| 00:16.29 | gregor_ | ? |
| 00:16.35 | gregor_ | im running wheezy |
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| 00:17.31 | gregor_ | and im not able to run any application from that harddrive |
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| 00:18.47 | LtL | gregor_: whats the mountpoint |
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| 00:18.56 | gregor_ | mountpoint? |
| 00:19.09 | gregor_ | i want to mount the whole harddrive |
| 00:19.36 | LtL | gregor_: where is this drive mounted, in /media/ or /mnt/ or where, type 'mount' it will tell you |
| 00:19.42 | sporadic_1 | what command can I use to tell me where a device's file system is mounted? |
| 00:19.57 | zykotick9 | sporadic_1: "mount" perhaps |
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| 00:20.29 | sporadic_1 | mount says it's mounted already. not sure where. |
| 00:20.46 | gregor_ | debian is installed on another harddrive! |
| 00:20.50 | zeta- | There's a big green button on the Home page banner about 7.2, but it points to 7.1 -- which gives an error page. |
| 00:20.52 | zeta- | Changing 1's => 2's will work -- who needs to know? |
| 00:21.13 | gregor_ | sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) |
| 00:21.13 | gregor_ | proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) |
| 00:21.13 | gregor_ | udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=10240k,nr_inodes=1020225,mode=755) |
| 00:21.13 | gregor_ | devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000) |
| 00:21.13 | gregor_ | tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=817396k,mode=755) |
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| 00:22.57 | gregor_ | that comes if i type mount |
| 00:24.51 | themill | zeta-: prodded -- thanks |
| 00:25.05 | holycow | jhutchins: so dd will just stop when it hits the end of the source hd and not keep on going forever i assume? |
| 00:25.36 | zeta- | themill: :-) thanks |
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| 00:25.45 | holycow | jhutchins: and thanks |
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| 00:28.11 | gregor_ | can you help me? |
| 00:28.26 | gregor_ | at startup the drive is not mounted |
| 00:28.48 | gregor_ | i have to click on it in the File manager and then its mounted. |
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| 00:29.39 | gregor_ | But apps cant access it without root privilegs. |
| 00:30.09 | nosklo | gregor_: bpaste.net your fstab |
| 00:30.17 | Seattle_Mike | gregor: to attach drive at startup make an fstab entry for it. |
| 00:30.32 | gregor_ | fstab |
| 00:30.37 | gregor_ | is that a file? |
| 00:30.42 | holycow | yes it is |
| 00:30.50 | gregor_ | where is it |
| 00:30.56 | Seattle_Mike | gregor /etc |
| 00:31.00 | nosklo | gregor_: in /etc of course |
| 00:31.19 | nosklo | gregor_: fstab is the file where you configure the filesystems that will mount at startup |
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| 00:31.43 | nosklo | gregor_: /etc is the standard system configuration directory |
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| 00:32.22 | gregor_ | cool man |
| 00:32.46 | gregor_ | now i have to find out the id of the drive |
| 00:33.18 | Seattle_Mike | gregor: use blkid /dev/xxx to get uuid |
| 00:33.59 | nosklo | gregor_: I like to run the command lsblk |
| 00:34.17 | gregor_ | blkid command not found! |
| 00:34.24 | holycow | install it |
| 00:34.54 | gregor_ | no other way |
| 00:34.56 | gregor_ | ? |
| 00:35.17 | nosklo | lsblk |
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| 00:37.04 | gregor_ | it says sdb 8:16 0 465,8G 0 disk |
| 00:37.04 | gregor_ | └─sdb1 8:17 0 465,8G 0 part /media/Gregors |
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| 00:37.50 | gregor_ | how can i find out the uuid |
| 00:38.15 | nosklo | lsblk -o NAME,UUID |
| 00:38.34 | holycow | run it as root |
| 00:39.15 | gregor_ | ah |
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| 00:39.20 | AbrarSyed | hi guys |
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| 00:39.33 | AbrarSyed | im running a debian 6 server, and am having trouble setting up postfix |
| 00:39.44 | AbrarSyed | been following this tutorial |
| 00:39.45 | AbrarSyed | https://wiki.debian.org/Postfix |
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| 00:40.08 | nosklo | AbrarSyed: where are you struggling? |
| 00:40.31 | AbrarSyed | ive gotten to the point where I telnet into the server to test it |
| 00:40.48 | nosklo | AbrarSyed: so "telnet localhost 25" |
| 00:40.52 | AbrarSyed | im having trouble on the second line where im supposed to run rcpt to:..... |
| 00:41.04 | nosklo | AbrarSyed: what do you get |
| 00:41.32 | AbrarSyed | it keeps on saying that "recipient address rejected, <username> unknown in local recipient table |
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| 00:42.12 | nosklo | AbrarSyed: are you typing the full recipient, rcpt to:<abrarsyed@fsf.org> |
| 00:42.28 | AbrarSyed | oh so its supposed to be to an external address? |
| 00:42.55 | AbrarSyed | I was under the impression that.. I uh.. send it from <something@gmail> and then rcpt to <user@myDomain.com> |
| 00:43.08 | AbrarSyed | is it the other way arround? I send from this server to gmail? |
| 00:43.37 | nosklo | AbrarSyed: port 25 is smtp server, you're sending email not receiving. |
| 00:43.44 | gregor_ | i have another question |
| 00:43.54 | AbrarSyed | oh ok |
| 00:44.05 | gregor_ | How can i get root permission outside of terminal? |
| 00:44.12 | nosklo | gregor_: like where |
| 00:44.23 | gregor_ | like the file browser |
| 00:44.44 | nosklo | gregor_: you can run it with gksu |
| 00:45.07 | nosklo | alt-f2 then type "gksu nautilus" |
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| 00:46.31 | gregor_ | and getting normal permissions back? |
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| 00:48.01 | john_rambo | I an running Gnome 3 / Debian 7. I want to install KDE. WHat is the name of the package ? |
| 00:48.25 | themill | dpkg: tell john_rambo about install kde |
| 00:49.10 | nosklo | gregor_: close the nautilus window. |
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| 00:49.29 | nosklo | gregor_: it will have root permission only for the newly open window and any windows this window generates |
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| 00:51.22 | gregor_ | and isnt there a way to give the User "gregor" root permissions from root terminal |
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| 00:52.57 | gregor_ | ok i will leave now bey |
| 00:52.58 | nosklo | gregor_: There probably is. I don't fully understand what you want. |
| 00:53.26 | nosklo | gregor_: normal users aren't supposed to have root permissions |
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| 00:53.48 | gregor_ | mayby i come back tomorrow |
| 00:53.56 | gregor_ | by |
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| 01:28.54 | tp43_ | I have exim4 and setup as an internet site. Its great. Just one thing, when I use mutt and send an email to my gmail account, it goes to spam box, anyway to not look like spam to gmail? |
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| 01:29.45 | buu | tp43_: Where is the box located? |
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| 01:30.01 | tp43_ | buu, I think denver |
| 01:30.05 | buu | colo? |
| 01:30.21 | tp43_ | yep |
| 01:30.42 | tp43_ | or tampa florida, one or the other |
| 01:30.55 | tp43_ | https://securedragon.net/openvz.php |
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| 01:55.58 | mrproper | If I want to assign IP addresses statically via DHCPD, do I need to include those IP addresses in the range or can I exclude them from the range |
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| 02:00.27 | oneand0 | mrproper, I would think they should be excluded from the range (since the range is from where it assigns dynamically) |
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| 02:25.35 | AbrarSyed | hi guys |
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| 02:25.40 | AbrarSyed | I got postfix up and running |
| 02:25.59 | AbrarSyed | but its emails get sent to Gmails spam folder |
| 02:26.13 | AbrarSyed | Ive read up on it and google speaks that it takes authenticated servers |
| 02:26.23 | AbrarSyed | any idea how I would authenticate mine? |
| 02:26.27 | AbrarSyed | googling isnt getting anywhere |
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| 02:32.00 | Th0masR0ss | Try #postfix |
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| 02:33.05 | AbrarSyed | will do thanks |
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| 02:41.36 | john_rambo | upgrade is stuck ......http://paste.debian.net/57225/ I can open web pages |
| 02:42.07 | buu | What exactly is a 'devtmpfs' ? |
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| 02:47.38 | flazz | why would "groups" return a different set of users than "sudo groups `whoami`" ? |
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| 02:53.07 | rjsalts | flazz: you're getting the groups root is in, not your user? |
| 02:53.16 | zykotick9 | flazz: are you sure it does? i'm not using sudo, but i do get a "$USERNAME : " when called from root with "groups $USERNAME" - other then that, they are the same. |
| 02:53.27 | flazz | actually "groups" vs "groups <me>" differs without sudo |
| 02:53.57 | flazz | i added a myself to a new group, logged out then back in and it still persists |
| 02:54.46 | flazz | sudo seems to be irrelevant |
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| 02:56.16 | flazz | sudo su - <me>; groups seems to work properly, its the initial login to the system shows the wrong groups |
| 02:56.24 | buu | So I plugged in a usb thumb drive, saw it as /dev/sdb, ran cfdisk and created a single partition as type 'Linux', wrote it, saw /dev/sdb1, ran mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 and it appears to have "frozen" on Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: |
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| 02:56.31 | buu | Strace shows nothing happening |
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| 02:56.58 | buu | Anyone have an idea where I should look next? |
| 02:57.37 | rjsalts | buu: process is in state D in ps auuwx? |
| 02:57.53 | buu | D_ |
| 02:57.55 | buu | D+ |
| 02:57.59 | rjsalts | buu: anything in dmesg? |
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| 02:59.06 | buu | rjsalts: Not much, just the 'attached disk' info |
| 02:59.56 | buu | oh, it finished, heh |
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| 03:06.23 | buu | So uh, I have a router, with a shell on it, running Linux RT-AC68U 2.6.36.4brcmarm #9 SMP PREEMPT Thu Sep 5 15:06:13 CST 2013 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 03:06.32 | buu | How do I begin to install software on it? |
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| 03:07.27 | yeik | buu, what kind of router? I don't think you will really be able to "install software" on it. |
| 03:07.45 | buu | yeik: rt-ac68u =p |
| 03:08.01 | buu | And I mean, I have wget, I have a shell, I have freespace, can't I download an executable that will.. execute? |
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| 03:08.33 | jeep | buu anything compiled for arm should work .. |
| 03:08.59 | jeep | chasing libs could be time consuming |
| 03:09.11 | buu | Yeah.. |
| 03:09.35 | buu | Would be it be saner to try to get a toolchain running? |
| 03:09.39 | buu | gcc/make/etc |
| 03:10.36 | yeik | usually a router like that wont have the speed, memory, and space for much of that. What are you trying to get/put on the router? |
| 03:11.05 | buu | yeik: Its a pretty ridiculously overspecced router |
| 03:11.13 | jeep | buu, i doubt you have room or cpu power to run much |
| 03:11.20 | buu | And I don't have any specific goals, I'm just trying to see whats possible |
| 03:11.40 | yeik | buu, is it an extra router that you aren't using? |
| 03:12.33 | buu | No, its in use. |
| 03:13.12 | yeik | buu, I wouldn't touch it unless you are really missing functionality. |
| 03:13.51 | yeik | it isn't like a normal linux machine with a smaller cpu and memory, it is highly specialized with drivers, packages, etc. |
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| 03:14.31 | buu | That's not a very interesting approach |
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| 03:14.57 | buu | It's got dual core cpu with 0% utilization and 32gb free on a thumbdrie |
| 03:15.02 | buu | I'm sure I can run something |
| 03:15.10 | buu | oh hey, it has vi |
| 03:15.27 | gnarface | buu: clock speed? |
| 03:16.04 | buu | Good question, cpuinfo just says ARMv7 Processor rev 0 (v7l) |
| 03:16.24 | buu | BogoMIPS : 1599.07 |
| 03:16.25 | buu | Heh. |
| 03:17.00 | yeik | buu, are you willing to live with it if you totally trash it and can't get it up again without breaking your warranty? |
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| 03:17.17 | gnarface | buu: does it have one of these files? /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq |
| 03:17.28 | buu | 1ghz arm apparently |
| 03:17.40 | gnarface | bitchin |
| 03:17.48 | zykotick9 | wonders... how buu's router/issue is debian related. |
| 03:18.21 | jeep | maybe he is trying to install debian on it ? |
| 03:18.28 | buu | gnarface: I only have cpu0/topology |
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| 03:19.27 | gnarface | how about: free -h |
| 03:19.48 | buu | It doesn't have a -h option but it reports 255716 |
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| 03:19.54 | buu | Which I'm guessing is in kb |
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| 03:20.06 | gnarface | try -m |
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| 03:20.22 | gnarface | should be megabytes |
| 03:20.36 | buu | My free doesn't have any options |
| 03:20.40 | gnarface | oh |
| 03:20.58 | buu | 255k kb would be 256 mb; which sounds right |
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| 03:21.17 | gnarface | that should be enough to get an 8-man quake3 server running |
| 03:21.22 | gnarface | would do well |
| 03:21.39 | gnarface | but it sounds like the real question is whether you can actually install debian on it |
| 03:21.57 | yeik | would advise against it. |
| 03:22.04 | buu | Oh it's only 800mhz =[ |
| 03:22.13 | gnarface | still faster than a raspberry pi |
| 03:22.16 | gnarface | not as much ram though |
| 03:22.34 | buu | Well, yeah, I wasn't actually planning on installing debian, at least at the moment |
| 03:22.39 | buu | I just wanted to see if I could install *anything* on it |
| 03:22.43 | yeik | buu you might want to do a search for dd-wrt or tomato |
| 03:23.16 | jeep | buu, bogomips are very close to 2x the cpufreq |
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| 03:23.48 | buu | ah |
| 03:23.55 | buu | Cool. |
| 03:24.29 | buu | yeik: I know about those, but I'm not interested in overwriting the os at the moment, I just want to run anything. vim. ssh. perl. |
| 03:24.33 | buu | perl would be fun. |
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| 03:27.33 | buu | Oh interesting. Everything is provided by busybox. |
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| 03:38.55 | buu | What the heck are .ipk files? |
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| 03:45.15 | mumpitzel | buu: used by some debian based distro for some PDA or other |
| 03:47.03 | buu | mumpitzel: But this isn't a debian or pda =/ |
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| 03:50.50 | jeep | buu, why dont you build a router out of a old dumpster box if you want something toplay with |
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| 03:57.33 | buu | jeep: Well, A) This one is vastly superior B) I already have it |
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| 03:58.26 | r6r7 | I've got a new debian install on an ibook g4, but my f10 key is not working... thoughts anyone? |
| 03:59.03 | somiaj | r6r7: are you running xorg, type 'xev' into a console and go hit f10 in that window, do you see anything? |
| 03:59.10 | somiaj | (try to figure out what signal it is sending) |
| 03:59.25 | r6r7 | no xorg |
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| 04:02.32 | nitz | In the Testing branch Gnome displays (gnome panel-> Places) the mounted removable drives with their size. Is there a way to change the naming of the drive back to the way the Stable branch named these removable drives (i.e. their mount point)? |
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| 04:08.08 | [E]sc | i'm running wheezy with kde, is my tmp/kde-username folder is over 8 gigs. is it supposed to be that big? is it a bug? |
| 04:09.22 | mumpitzel | what files are in there? |
| 04:09.45 | mumpitzel | log out of kde and delete it? check what timestamps the files have, delete week old ones? |
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| 04:24.16 | paradigm-X | Where can I find the procedure to use for making Debian not update a particular package? When I run, for example, apt-get update (or aptitude or whatever floats the boat), I want a certain list of packages untouched. |
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| 04:25.16 | n0c | anyone know which packge the tool `` |
| 04:25.38 | n0c | `dig` is part of? |
| 04:25.52 | n0c | (i dont have apt-file installed / updates |
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| 04:26.17 | themill | ,file bin/dig |
| 04:26.25 | judd | Search for bin/dig in wheezy/i386: dnsutils: usr/bin/dig |
| 04:26.36 | n0c | interesting, i tried dnsutils |
| 04:26.38 | n0c | thanks judd |
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| 04:27.23 | n0c | guess i fatfingered 'nsutils' before, whoops |
| 04:28.12 | buu | Hrm |
| 04:28.21 | lazors | What should I do at this time? http://sprunge.us/IfFe -- A little disclaimer: I did a ddrescue /dev/sda to /dev/sdb and booted on this drive. Worked fine. Few days later, new grub-pc update. Possibly related. |
| 04:28.32 | buu | Will these steps let me install a cross compiler suitable for targetting arbitrary arm systems? https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingCrossCompilers#Installing_a_Cross_Compiler |
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| 04:45.23 | buu | W: GPG error: http://www.emdebian.org wheezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY B5B7720097BB3B58 |
| 04:45.26 | buu | Help? |
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| 04:46.42 | LtL | buu: http://www.emdebian.org/crush/keys.html |
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| 04:48.49 | buu | LtL: That was way too obvious. |
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| 04:54.19 | LtL | buu: no harm in asking |
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| 04:54.59 | f-a | I am willing to learn some lisp. What a lean Lisp package to download? gcl is 69 and on my crappy connection it could take ages! |
| 04:55.23 | gnarface | emacs |
| 04:55.42 | f-a | eheh, I wonder if emacs is lighter, I suspect not. /checks |
| 04:56.21 | f-a | 24Mb, not as light as hoped, but definitely an improvement! |
| 04:56.23 | gnarface | there is emacs-nox |
| 04:56.28 | gnarface | (without x support) |
| 04:56.43 | gnarface | not sure if its any faster but it should be smaller |
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| 04:58.26 | buu | So I'm fumbling around with arm cross compilation from a debian base system to a random arm linux target (router). I installed arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc-4.7 which produces LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV) |
| 04:58.46 | buu | But when I copy it to the target system running ./a.out gives me a sh not found error |
| 04:58.57 | buu | Presumably its the wrong type of binary? I believe its an "arm7" system if that means anything |
| 04:59.28 | f-a | 21.7Mb |
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| 04:59.55 | buu | Or not. Turns out it was just a library issue. |
| 05:00.16 | f-a | 21.7Mb |
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| 05:19.46 | buu | Ok, how do I get a program using Configure and a Makefile to generate statically linked libs? |
| 05:19.46 | peterrooney | quinso: with /etc/hosts, I can give a non-dotted name to any IP on the internet (including localhost). |
| 05:19.58 | waqstar | Quinoa: localhost? |
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| 05:22.27 | felipec | is there a way to automatically download the original tarball from debian/control? |
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| 05:23.43 | OpenTokix | buu: try to add --enable-static --disable-shared |
| 05:23.50 | OpenTokix | buu: to ./configure |
| 05:24.06 | buu | oh |
| 05:24.48 | OpenTokix | buu: you can see with ./configure --help |
| 05:24.59 | buu | OpenTokix: No joy =[ |
| 05:25.10 | buu | dropbear: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs) |
| 05:25.39 | buu | I don't see static listed in the --help |
| 05:25.57 | OpenTokix | buu: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/dropbear/2004q3/000022.html |
| 05:27.47 | buu | OpenTokix: Oh, thanks. That put me on the right path. |
| 05:27.50 | OpenTokix | ssh micro |
| 05:28.06 | OpenTokix | buu: =) |
| 05:28.07 | buu | SUCCESS |
| 05:28.59 | OpenTokix | buu: wii! \o/ |
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| 05:30.21 | buu | OpenTokix: Well, now I've got static executables, ssh: Exited: Unknown own user |
| 05:30.23 | buu | =p |
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| 05:35.52 | buu | Life is hard |
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| 05:40.42 | buu | what does `whoami` call to get the user? |
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| 05:42.20 | raspberrypifan | i need help with having a raspbian pi auto boot into wifi. I dont have a screen or ethernet. Anyway to preset set that up in debian config files |
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| 05:47.04 | themill | raspberrypifan: sounds a lot like a question for #raspbian |
| 05:47.26 | raspberrypifan | yea but there dead. From what they told it had to do with preseeding or something. |
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| 05:49.06 | themill | raspberrypifan: it has to do with however you use their installer to manipulate their packages. Not really much to do with #debian. |
| 05:49.36 | raspberrypifan | ah well that sucks. |
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| 06:09.35 | [E]sc | mumpitzel, it seems to be files that are named kio_thumbnails#####, dolphin######tmp, konsole###.tmp |
| 06:09.45 | buu | Off to the cross compilation mines! |
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| 06:12.39 | freaky[t] | hi all. i recently upgraded from Debian Sqeeze to Wheezy. Now when trying to do a mysql dump using mysqldump it says: mysqldump: Got error: 1142: SELECT,LOCK TABL command denied to user 'backup'@'localhost' for table 'cond_instances' when using LOCK TABLES - i googled the error but they all say i should use mysqldump 5.5 ... but i am using mysqldump 5.5 ... can anyone help me with this problem? |
| 06:13.30 | buu | freaky[t]: It sounds like your user doesn't have the privileges |
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| 06:13.47 | buu | freaky[t]: Login in manually and try the command |
| 06:13.57 | dokma | freaky[t], what privileges does backup have? |
| 06:14.06 | freaky[t] | backup has all priveleges |
| 06:14.27 | buu | Apparently not. |
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| 06:14.47 | dokma | freaky[t], how did you check? |
| 06:14.49 | freaky[t] | mysql 5.5 comes with few new tables they say "futuristic". now they should not be backed ujp but even version 5.5 ... the right version gets this problem |
| 06:15.06 | freaky[t] | dokma phpmyadmin --> rights --> user backup --> everything checked |
| 06:15.52 | dokma | what happens when you : mysql -u backup -pPASSWD -e "SELECT * FROM cond_instances" ?? |
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| 06:16.27 | dokma | and also mysql -u root -pPASSWD -e "SELECT * FROM cond_instances" |
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| 06:16.48 | freaky[t] | ERROR 1046 (3D000) at line 1: No database selected |
| 06:17.08 | freaky[t] | both the same no database selected |
| 06:18.14 | dokma | freaky[t], find out in which database this table is and add it like this: mysql -u backup -pPASSWD database -e "SELECT * FROM cond_instances" |
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| 06:19.46 | freaky[t] | dokma |
| 06:19.47 | freaky[t] | root@baby /etc/duply/system # mysql -u backup -p performance_schema -e "SELECT * FROM cond_instances" |
| 06:19.47 | freaky[t] | Enter password: |
| 06:19.47 | freaky[t] | root@baby /etc/duply/system # |
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| 06:20.17 | freaky[t] | sorry |
| 06:20.29 | dokma | freaky[t], you forgot to add the password after -p |
| 06:20.48 | dokma | -pPASS |
| 06:20.59 | freaky[t] | i typed in the pass after in the password prompt |
| 06:21.16 | dokma | oh I see |
| 06:21.41 | dokma | so user backup can select when you specify the correct pass? |
| 06:21.46 | freaky[t] | yea |
| 06:21.50 | freaky[t] | looks like |
| 06:21.58 | dokma | did you check if it's password is correct in the config files? |
| 06:22.00 | freaky[t] | as i said they all say its the version of the mysqldump program but i got the latest |
| 06:22.05 | freaky[t] | the password is correct |
| 06:22.24 | freaky[t] | because performance_schema database is new |
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| 06:22.35 | freaky[t] | in 5.5 mysql |
| 06:22.44 | freaky[t] | but the mysqldump still tries to dump it |
| 06:22.47 | freaky[t] | which i tshouldnt do |
| 06:23.18 | dokma | did you check if there is a way to tell myslqdump which databases to exclude from the dump? |
| 06:24.00 | freaky[t] | i think so |
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| 06:28.33 | dokma | freaky[t], mysql -u root -pPASS -e "SHOW DATAB grep -v information_schema | grep -v Database | tr "\\n" " " |
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| 06:28.40 | dokma | this gives me a list of databases |
| 06:28.58 | dokma | you can use it in mysqldump to exclude the problematic database... |
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| 06:29.30 | dokma | freaky[t], pardon, my paste is a bit messed up |
| 06:29.51 | dokma | mysql -u root -pPASS -e "SHOW DATABASES" | grep -v performance_schema | grep -v information_schema | grep -v Database | tr "\\n" " " |
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| 06:31.15 | buu | Can make read #defines from .h files? |
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| 06:34.04 | freaky[t] | i fixed the problem. i named the database explicitly on the command line thats why mysqldump still backs it up. i just did some bash scripting to avoid it backup up the database which makes problems as its usually not backed up anyway |
| 06:34.20 | freaky[t] | its working |
| 06:34.23 | freaky[t] | thanks for all your help :) |
| 06:35.40 | blz37 | where can I find the latest URL for unstable sources.list ? |
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| 07:02.02 | ab2283 | hey #debian. It seems #mailman is very much asleep. Maybe someone here can help me figure out why archive .mbox files for mailman 2.1.15-1 on wheezy? |
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| 07:06.49 | Lope | where is my history file on debian? |
| 07:07.02 | Lope | I've looked in the home dir, its not there. |
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| 07:08.29 | ab2283 | Lope: bash history? ~/.bash_history |
| 07:08.34 | bezaban | Lope: that will depend on your shell. ~/.bash_history is standard for bash |
| 07:09.56 | Lope | i created the user with adduser bob |
| 07:10.31 | ab2283 | Lope: then it should be /home/bob/.bash_history |
| 07:10.36 | buu_ | I WIN |
| 07:10.45 | ab2283 | once bob has logged in and done something, that is. |
| 07:11.26 | buu_ | I HAVE EMERGED FROM THE DEPTHS OF THE CROSS COMPILATION MINES |
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| 07:12.53 | Lope | ls -lxua gives me .bashrc .bash_logout .profile (thats all!) |
| 07:13.05 | Lope | yet history is stored somewhere |
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| 07:17.31 | jelly-home | Lope: is it still present after closing a shell (or a terminal) and starting a new one? |
| 07:17.33 | bezaban | Lope: it is not written until you log out again |
| 07:17.44 | bezaban | if this is first login :) |
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| 07:18.02 | ab2283 | Lope: what bezaban said, also you can try "echo $HISTFILE" |
| 07:18.19 | ab2283 | Lope: to write the current state to disk, use "history -w" |
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| 07:21.21 | Lope | ab2283: brilliant. thanks guys |
| 07:21.43 | ab2283 | yw |
| 07:21.55 | Lope | every time I type su root |
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| 07:22.11 | Lope | su bob, etc is it spawning a new session for root and bob, or just going to existing sessions? |
| 07:22.17 | Lope | (in the same terminal window) |
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| 07:23.16 | qsp | Hello all, i've just made a debian 7.2 install on a btrfs partition. after installing i created @ and @home volumes and temporarily changed the default-id of the subvolume to boot debian. but now i'm not being able to "tell" update-grub that it should find it's files on the /@/ partition. do you have some hints on what may be wrong? |
| 07:24.34 | qsp | I've been following these instructions: http://blog.kourim.net/installing-debian-on-btrfs-subvolume |
| 07:24.42 | bezaban | Lope: it's a new session as such, but if you want to re-read config etc you can use 'su -' |
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| 07:31.37 | patriku | qsp: Hi |
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| 07:32.26 | qsp | patriku: hi, i'm preparing a pastebin with the data on my system, it'll be ready in some seconds |
| 07:32.41 | patriku | patriku: I've checked what you followed and I have to say I dont know why you have to set default subvol while it is setup in /etc/fstab. You dont have to. |
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| 07:34.33 | patriku | qsp: Try to set default id to 0 which is fs root id of btrfs and keep subvolid=[id number] or subvol=@ . Update grub and it should be just fine. |
| 07:34.55 | qsp | ok, i'll try it now. |
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| 07:36.22 | patriku | qsp: Or set default it btrfs subvol set-default [id] and dont specify it in /etc/fstab. Have you got it done I mean logs ? |
| 07:36.44 | qsp | here it is http://pastebin.com/Paus77HA |
| 07:37.03 | qsp | i'll now attempt to set default-id to 0 and see if update-grub detects it |
| 07:38.42 | qsp | so, after the btrfs subvolume set-default 5 /, it won't boot, because grub won't find it's files, then i have to boot with rescue cd again and set-default id to 260. This is what happened until now. |
| 07:38.57 | qsp | now i'll try to set-default 0 and see if something changes |
| 07:39.18 | patriku | qsp: you can do that, but the problem in your case and that is for sure, is the fact that you set default subvol to 5 which doesnt exists. |
| 07:40.46 | patriku | qsp: it is 268, so you can set default id by : btrfs subvol set-default 268 OR btrfs subvol set-default @ and in that case you dont have mess with /etc/fstab |
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| 07:41.31 | qsp | aha |
| 07:41.40 | qsp | that might be the answer then, to set-default @ |
| 07:42.04 | patriku | qsp: personally I would prefer calling subvol name instead of subvol id. It is more human readable than id. |
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| 07:43.17 | qsp | patriku: just to be sure: when i set default to @ then grub should still have entries like /boot/... instead of /@/boot, right? |
| 07:43.21 | patriku | qsp: Exactly, it if one of the options how to boot your system to set-default @ . |
| 07:44.15 | patriku | qsp: yes, it is true. Anything above is hidden from you. You have to differ between subvol and directories in this case. |
| 07:45.21 | qsp | very well then. if i need to rever to a previous snapshot then i just set default-id to the correct snapshot and reboot |
| 07:45.26 | qsp | thank you! |
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| 07:47.21 | patriku | qsp: yes, or if something goes wrong you can still tell grub what to boot adding rootflags=subvol=[subvolume] |
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| 07:48.06 | guiniol | Hello. I just ran update/safe-upgrade on a server and I run into an error with redmine not upgrading properly. Anyone else having the same issue? |
| 07:48.54 | jelly-home | guiniol: which debian release? |
| 07:48.55 | jelly-home | !bat |
| 07:48.56 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 07:48.57 | qsp | patriku: i've just wrote it down. it's my first debian install, previously i was using btrfs on opensuse and it all comes automagically configured :-D it's good to finally get some insight of what is going on.. thank you very much then, |
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| 07:49.21 | patriku | qsp: Actually I just check my grub.cfg and it seems you will see something like: linux /@/boot/vmlinuz-xxxx rootflags=subvol=@ , so it will probably include fs structure too. But dont be scared, just try to boot it and it should work. |
| 07:49.32 | guiniol | jelly-home: stable. I'll create a pastebin |
| 07:49.55 | patriku | qsp: You re welcome. I am glad I helped. |
| 07:50.04 | patriku | qsp: So is it working now ? |
| 07:50.49 | qsp | well, i'll now reboot it (fingers-crossed) it's at home and i'm at work :-D so if it won't boot i'll only get to solve it when i'm back. |
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| 07:51.10 | ExeciN | I can only set the mouse acceleration and the acceleration threshold. How can I set the speed of my mouse? |
| 07:51.15 | patriku | qsp: :) |
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| 07:54.03 | qsp | patriku: it's alive :-) it works correctly, thank you very much. |
| 07:54.30 | patriku | qsp: you are welcome. Have a good day. I have to go to work. Bey. |
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| 07:55.14 | guiniol | Hello. I just ran update/safe-upgrade on a server and I run into an error with redmine not upgrading properly. Anyone else having the same issue? Here are the pastebins of the command I ran and of apt-cache policy: http://paste.debian.net/57283/ http://paste.debian.net/57285/ http://paste.debian.net/57286/ |
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| 08:02.02 | guiniol | jelly-home: I created the pastebins, if you have any idea |
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| 08:06.40 | zwamkat | Crew, I'm running an interactive cli php script. When I use the backspace to correct a typo it shows the ^H. Regular shell (bash) handles all characters just fine. Any suggestions? |
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| 08:12.37 | Lope | I got an error saying ecryptfs module is not loaded. 'modprobe ecryptfs' also gave an error. I added the line ecryptfs to /etc/modules and rebooted. still exactly the same situation. any ideas? |
| 08:12.58 | Lope | I searched my /var/log dir for ecryptfs and only found records of me installing ecryptfs-utils |
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| 08:16.47 | acemi | Lope: i have encfs and it use fuse |
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| 08:17.13 | oobe | is the a kde wheezy backports repo that I can upgrade to a more current version of kde with but still stick with the main stable branch for all other software? |
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| 08:19.44 | Lope | acemi: i don't know much about this stuff |
| 08:19.56 | Lope | whats the diff between encfs and ecryptfs |
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| 08:20.35 | Lope | cat /proc/filesystems does not show encfs or ecryptfs |
| 08:20.41 | acemi | Lope: encfs is mostly used to encrypt a directory |
| 08:21.11 | Lope | encfs: can you use it on a home directory? |
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| 08:21.46 | acemi | Lope: yes, but if you want to encrypt to whole partition, cryptsetup is better |
| 08:22.50 | Lope | okay |
| 08:23.09 | Lope | how can I check if encfs is present in my distro? |
| 08:23.29 | acemi | aptitude search encfs |
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| 08:27.12 | Lope | acemi: thanks dude!! I see encfs should work for me. I'll give it a go! |
| 08:27.24 | acemi | Lope: np |
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| 08:53.01 | oomph | which kernel is best suited for a gameserver? |
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| 09:01.13 | KittyCat | I just installed debian and it gave me gnome (without asking). how do I fully switch to kde? I'm currently installing kde-full |
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| 09:04.25 | KittyCat | also, I selected the non-free repo in the preferences, but I can't find the binary nvidia drivers |
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| 09:06.30 | jelly | dpkg, tell KittyCat about nvidia dkms |
| 09:07.00 | jelly | KittyCat: don't forget to do an apt-get update after adding non-free |
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| 09:07.52 | jelly | KittyCat: as for using kde, just pick that as the session on the login screen |
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| 09:09.02 | KittyCat | thanks. I need to wait for kde to finish before I can run apt-get update |
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| 09:14.17 | jelly | fiik, let's see if the bot knows |
| 09:14.22 | jelly | !remove gnome |
| 09:14.23 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
| 09:14.30 | jelly | I guess it doesn't |
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| 09:25.50 | lapache | Hello, please how does the initrd swap to the physical disk linux system, and how does the ram is cleared ? |
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| 09:28.00 | jelly | lapache: Debian's initrd does not use swap by default. |
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| 09:28.34 | jelly | do you mean how does control get passed over to the real system? |
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| 09:28.42 | lapache | swap i mean 'transferrt' |
| 09:28.48 | lapache | jelly, y |
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| 09:30.29 | jelly | lapache: far as I understand it, pivot_root() syscall is used to replace the old / filesystem with the new one. Somewhere after that, the real /sbin/init gets exec'd |
| 09:30.35 | konradb | hi possible to set primary tty/grub screen? |
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| 09:32.56 | lapache | jelly, thank you. And do you know how the ramfs is cleared or detached ? |
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| 09:33.53 | jelly | lapache: no, I suspect a simple umount |
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| 09:34.48 | lapache | jelly, where this procedure is stored ? it is not a rc script ? |
| 09:35.16 | LordDeath | exams are over |
| 09:35.28 | LordDeath | now I can dist-upgrade my squeeze machine :) |
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| 09:38.08 | jelly | lapache: which procedure? whatever initrd does is... in the initrd image |
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| 09:38.33 | lapache | jelly, thanks |
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| 09:39.07 | Lope | I did a standard debian install, creating a user bob. when I try su root it says authentication failure. could the root account be disabled? |
| 09:39.13 | Lope | if so, how can I enable it? |
| 09:39.32 | Lope | wheezy (7) |
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| 09:40.40 | zykotick9 | Lope: i believe, if you don't set a root password during install, then it uses sudo automatically... but i don't have an answer to your question. |
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| 09:42.50 | Lope | how can I change the root password? |
| 09:44.05 | buu | passwd |
| 09:45.15 | Lope | oh cool, sudo passwd let me set the root password, thanks :) |
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| 09:59.56 | damasceno | Hello, I have a few variables: IP_1, IP_2, IP_3 I need to print the value of all the variables. I'm using FOR to do it, but it's not working. Instead of print the value of the variable is printing the NAME of the variable. Here's my code: http://pastebin.com/wmwkFFWV |
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| 10:00.35 | ChrisH | damasceno: I would try echo ${IP_DESTINATION${a}} |
| 10:01.37 | damasceno | Thanks ChrisH but it's not working :/ |
| 10:02.14 | damasceno | line 19: ${IP_DESTINATION_${a}}: bad substitution |
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| 10:16.20 | Lope | i'm having trouble creating an encfs dir as my user (bob). it works perfectly as root. I've added bob to the fuse group, but I'm still getting permission denied when I try mount stuff with encfs ~/.foo ~/foo |
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| 10:20.23 | patriku | damasceno: it should be echo IP_DESTINATION_${a} |
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| 10:21.44 | Lope | in /etc/modules I don't have fuse listed. would that cause it to not be loaded? |
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| 10:31.10 | Lope | solved the problem. after adding bob to the fuse group bob needed to log out and back in again. |
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| 10:32.32 | icesword | so i remember debian has a software list webpage or something, where is it dudes |
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| 10:33.35 | acemi | icesword: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages ? |
| 10:34.17 | uovobw | hi *, can anyone suggest the reason for this http://imgur.com/tUGYa1C ? i have "run the above" through mcelog and it provided ZERO clue as to which piece of hardware is waving goodbye. tia. |
| 10:34.17 | icesword | it seems , is it divided into categories? |
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| 10:36.40 | acemi | icesword: divided in the next page |
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| 10:37.45 | seirl | hi |
| 10:37.50 | seirl | i think my perl installation is broken |
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| 10:38.04 | seirl | so i can't dpkg anything |
| 10:38.06 | icesword | very nice, it has some chinese in there, so i understand them well nice dude |
| 10:38.28 | seirl | i tried to reinstall perl from source but the problem remains |
| 10:38.45 | seirl | do you know something i can do to fix it ? |
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| 10:39.34 | Sevet | from source probably doesn't install to the same locations |
| 10:39.42 | Sevet | when you say it's broken... what's your actual error? |
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| 10:43.24 | nkuttler | seirl: get rid of your custom perl build and install the Debian packages |
| 10:43.31 | babilen | dpkg: tell seirl -about bat |
| 10:43.55 | seirl | nkuttler: i can't install it, dpkg fails because of perl :O |
| 10:43.56 | babilen | seirl: And show us what you are talking about on http://paste.debian.net once you've done that |
| 10:44.45 | babilen | seirl: We need *a lot* more information than that. Which release of Debian are you running? What have you done prior to it breaking? (exactly!) Which errors do you get? (and so on) |
| 10:45.05 | seirl | http://paste.awesom.eu/lYu |
| 10:45.07 | babilen | seirl: Please also read http://mattgemmell.com/2008/12/08/what-have-you-tried/ for some pointers on how to seek support |
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| 10:46.07 | seirl | babilen: my debian version is 6.0.5 and it was broken when someone give me access to that server |
| 10:46.18 | babilen | seirl: But, as noted by nkuttler, get rid of your local installation first, that can only introduce additional problems. |
| 10:46.20 | seirl | so i don't know what happened exactly |
| 10:46.21 | icesword | will 32 bit debian recognize 4 G RAM? |
| 10:46.25 | arisv | seirl, try apt-get -f install |
| 10:46.43 | seirl | arisv: same thing |
| 10:46.54 | arisv | get rid of your local installation first |
| 10:47.15 | acemi | icesword: with pae kernel, it recognizes more than 4G |
| 10:47.17 | seirl | done |
| 10:47.37 | Sevet | that module should exist from the perl-base package |
| 10:47.40 | nkuttler | seirl: apt-cache policy perl-base |
| 10:47.50 | icesword | okay |
| 10:48.04 | nkuttler | seirl: also, do you have a /usr/share/perl/5.10.1/FileHandle.pm ? |
| 10:48.18 | seirl | http://paste.awesom.eu/D5v |
| 10:48.24 | icesword | 64bit system sounds like something complicated |
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| 10:49.16 | seirl | nkuttler: no, but i have it in : |
| 10:49.18 | seirl | /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.10.1/FileHandle.pm |
| 10:49.20 | seirl | /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.18.1/FileHandle.pm |
| 10:49.22 | seirl | /usr/share/perl5/Dpkg/Compression/FileHandle.pm |
| 10:49.33 | nkuttler | seirl: sounds like you manually removed system files |
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| 10:49.39 | babilen | yeah |
| 10:49.43 | Sevet | you shouldn't have them in /usr/local/ - that means you still have your version from source installed |
| 10:49.43 | babilen | seirl: Mind trying a "apt-get --reinstall install perl-base" followed by "apt-get -f install" ? |
| 10:49.48 | Sevet | nkuttler: i agree |
| 10:49.49 | Sevet | at a push you might be able to download the .deb, extract the missing files from it to get dpkg/apt working and then reinstall perl-base to make sure it's installed properly |
| 10:50.02 | seirl | babilen: i'm pretty sure apt-get will fail when calling dpkg |
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| 10:50.07 | babilen | seirl: Didn't you say that you removed your local perl installation? And where is that 5.18 from? |
| 10:50.08 | Sevet | but who knows what else is missing too... |
| 10:50.37 | babilen | seirl: You might have to manually replace perl-base in that case, but please try what I suggested and show us the output. |
| 10:50.43 | seirl | babilen: /usr/local is not in my PATH, so what does that change ? |
| 10:50.54 | babilen | It's in @INC |
| 10:51.22 | seirl | http://paste.awesom.eu/zpM babilen |
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| 10:51.39 | babilen | seriously: we ask you to remove that, you say that you did it (which you obviously didn't) ... |
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| 10:51.50 | seirl | i removed a symlink |
| 10:51.59 | seirl | okay, i'm removing it. |
| 10:53.10 | seirl | done |
| 10:53.14 | babilen | What a clusterfuck :) |
| 10:53.39 | nkuttler | yeah, probably quicker to just reinstall.. |
| 10:54.12 | Sevet | +1 - if system files have been removed, others probably have been too |
| 10:54.13 | icesword | what… |
| 10:54.38 | seirl | i don't think so, the damage seemed specific to the perl installation |
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| 10:55.12 | Sevet | icesword: 32bit systems can use >4G RAM (pae kernel) but individual processes will be limited to using something like 3G of ram max |
| 10:55.21 | seirl | so you think i should reinstall directly from the perl-base .deb package ? |
| 10:55.25 | nkuttler | seirl: anyway, one approach how would be to extract debs manually from /var/cache/apt/archives/ .. perl-base being the obvious candidate |
| 10:55.32 | nkuttler | s/how/now |
| 10:55.49 | Sevet | icesword: 64bit isn't complicated at all, you won't notice any difference at all most likely |
| 10:56.09 | babilen | seirl: So, please repeat the commands. This is complicated by the fact that your squeeze system isn't up-to-date so that you should reinstall version 5.10.1-17squeeze3 and not 5.10.1-17squeeze6 -- you might have to manually unpack the corresponding .deb and place the files in /usr/share/perl5/Dpkg/Compression/FileHandle.pm |
| 10:56.29 | icesword | ok, i thought softwares are bigger on 64 bit |
| 10:56.50 | seirl | hmm... how can i extract the .deb files without dpkg ? |
| 10:56.53 | Sevet | not necessarily |
| 10:57.01 | babilen | icesword: Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64#Architectural_features |
| 10:57.12 | Sevet | seirl: ar x package.deb ; tar -zxvf data.tar.gz |
| 10:57.15 | petn-randall | icesword: How does that make it more complicated? |
| 10:57.17 | babilen | seirl: it's an ar archive |
| 10:57.22 | seirl | oh, i didn't know |
| 10:57.24 | seirl | thanks |
| 10:57.26 | babilen | np |
| 10:57.28 | Sevet | or 'dpkg -x package.deb' but i wonder if that'll fail because of your perl errors |
| 10:58.25 | icesword | because its 64 bit? all in all, you noticed its debian 64 bits DVD or something |
| 10:58.30 | babilen | Sevet: I assumed that it does, but it might be worth a try. It *does*, however, require you to specify the root path of where you want to extract it to, so something like "dpkg -x perl-base*.deb ~/tmp/" (or something like that) might be working |
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| 10:59.25 | masdusso | hi guys |
| 10:59.32 | Sevet | yea, sorry forgot the target directory arg |
| 10:59.52 | masdusso | do you how can I give the CAP_SYS_NICE capability to a specific user? |
| 11:00.30 | babilen | seirl: Try the "dpkg -x" approach Sevet just mentioned, you can then fallback to the ar one which gives you three files (control.tar.?, data.tar.? and debian-binary) -- The files you are after are in data.tar.? (probably data.tar.gz) |
| 11:01.16 | babilen | seirl: Copy the FileHandle.pm to /usr/share/perl5/Dpkg/Compression/FileHandle.pm and retry reinstalling/installing perl + perl-base |
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| 11:01.23 | seirl | it works ! |
| 11:01.27 | babilen | yay! |
| 11:01.33 | seirl | thank you very much! :) |
| 11:01.38 | babilen | seirl: May I see the fruit of our labour? :) |
| 11:01.40 | petn-randall | icesword: Your argument is circular. 64 bit is complicated because it's 64 bit ... just saying. All in all it's not "more complicated" at all. Pointers are double as wide, that's about the only disadvantage, if you can call it that. I would even go so far to say that 64 bit installation are far more common nowadays. |
| 11:01.53 | babilen | +1 |
| 11:02.01 | Sevet | seirl: now install cruft |
| 11:02.07 | Sevet | and use it to check for anything else that's missing |
| 11:02.16 | seirl | babilen: well i just extracted the .deb and cp -r usr/share/perl/5.10/* /usr/share/perl/5.10/ |
| 11:02.20 | babilen | "debsums -c" might come in handy too |
| 11:02.44 | Sevet | i thought cruft checks the sums? |
| 11:03.05 | babilen | seirl: Oh, okay .. that's a bit of a sledgehammer approach, but fair enough. Please ensure to run "apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade" now. Then install cruft and debsums and run "debsums -c" and paste the results. |
| 11:03.27 | babilen | Sevet: Oh, it does? I typically use debsums for that :) |
| 11:03.43 | icesword | okay so you have to install 64 bit software on 64 bit system, no? |
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| 11:04.04 | Sevet | i thought it did... but i won't claim to be authoriative enough to know for sure. it takes a very long time to run so i'd assumed that was why. |
| 11:04.23 | Sevet | !tell icesword about multiarch |
| 11:04.26 | babilen | icesword: Sure, but we offer a feature called "multiarch" that allows you to install 32bit software directly on 64bit systems. |
| 11:04.27 | petn-randall | icesword: It's perfectly fine to run 32 bit software on 64 bit systems, not the other way round, though. |
| 11:04.49 | reavengrey | You won't claim to be an authority, you mean? |
| 11:05.02 | reavengrey | Most people don't want to claim to be authoritative \o/ |
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| 11:05.31 | babilen | I'm recursive! |
| 11:05.33 | Sevet | icesword: it does if you have a 32bit program and a 64bit program both using libXYZ you need both i386 and amd64 versions of libXYZ installed though |
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| 11:06.17 | babilen | dpkg: tell seirl -about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 11:06.45 | seirl | babilen: yeah, i know how to upgrade, i had to fix that first |
| 11:06.46 | icesword | once my install crashes, i ll try a 64bits system |
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| 11:07.10 | babilen | seirl: You should also start planning your upgrade to wheezy. Read the release notes and do that within the next months as we will drop security support for Squeeze in May next year. |
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| 11:07.25 | babilen | seirl: Ah, great. Well, too much information can't hurt :) |
| 11:07.26 | acemi | if it's debian, it'll take a long time |
| 11:07.30 | seirl | of course :) |
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| 11:07.59 | babilen | seirl: Is the dist-upgrade coming along nicely? |
| 11:08.01 | chris_99 | hey, anyone know why http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/amd64/iso-cd/ doesnt work |
| 11:08.15 | seirl | yeah |
| 11:08.18 | seirl | it just finished |
| 11:08.28 | babilen | chris_99: define "doesn't work" ? Is it sitting on the couch drinking gin tonics and not leaving the house? |
| 11:08.29 | petn-randall | chris_99: Care to be more specific? What doesn't work? |
| 11:08.43 | chris_99 | 'The requested URL /debian-cd/7.1.0/amd64/iso-cd/ was not found on this server.' |
| 11:08.56 | Sevet | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 11:09.07 | chris_99 | cheers |
| 11:09.20 | Sevet | 7.2 is out now, so 7.1 is no longer on that mirror |
| 11:09.25 | chris_99 | ah |
| 11:09.31 | babilen | chris_99: You are looking for 7.2.0 as we released a new point release two days ago ... It is typically best to simply use "current" as in http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/ |
| 11:09.57 | chris_99 | ah okey dokey, cheers |
| 11:10.07 | babilen | np, have fun! :) |
| 11:10.15 | babilen | dpkg: 7.2 |
| 11:10.16 | dpkg | Debian 7.2 was released on October 12th, 2013. This point release corrects some serious bugs and copies security updates across to the main archive. Further details are at http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20131012 and http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/wheezy/ChangeLog . To upgrade, ask me about <point release>. |
| 11:10.50 | babilen | dpkg: congratulate seirl |
| 11:10.51 | dpkg | Woohoo seirl, you did it! |
| 11:11.08 | icesword | o.O |
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| 11:11.48 | icesword | dpkg:ignore babilen |
| 11:11.48 | dpkg | sticks his fingers in his ears. "La, la, la! I can't hear you, babilen" |
| 11:12.06 | babilen | icesword: Can we help you? |
| 11:12.10 | icesword | :P |
| 11:13.51 | icesword | any chinese here? what font is best look? |
| 11:13.52 | dxtr | Hmm.. When I use command= in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys; how can I tell it that this key is allowed to run this command with any parameters? |
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| 11:14.37 | petern_ | Heh, my change control system has gone mad with this 7.2 update :p |
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| 11:16.05 | reavengrey | Oh, nice 7.2 is out |
| 11:17.39 | Sevet | dxtr: afaik you can't... you need to run a wrapper script that checks SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND |
| 11:17.42 | acemi | dxtr: command="command par1 par2" .. |
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| 11:18.01 | Sevet | acemi: keyword 'any', there isn't a wildcard |
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| 11:26.59 | dxtr | Sevet: Yeah, I noticed. On the plus side I didn't have to do much in said wrapper script considering it is only one command I want to run :) |
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| 11:32.47 | buu | So uh |
| 11:33.00 | buu | How can I get a 32bit libelf.so on an amd64 machine? |
| 11:33.18 | petn-randall | buu: What are you trying to achieve? |
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| 11:34.11 | buu | petn-randall: I'm trying to run random software I downloaded off the internet =[ |
| 11:34.19 | buu | Hopefully it gives me a dancing purple monkey |
| 11:34.46 | petn-randall | buu: And it's giving you an error message when you run it? |
| 11:35.04 | petern_ | enable mutliarch and install the necessary bits |
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| 11:37.23 | buu | petern_: Can I fake it by manually downloading the .deb? |
| 11:37.34 | petern_ | Why bother? |
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| 11:38.24 | buu | Because multiarch scares me |
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| 11:38.47 | petern_ | It shouldn't :) |
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| 11:39.24 | petn-randall | buu: Err, so instead of the documented, tested and verified way you want to hack something together? |
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| 11:39.41 | petern_ | It's a one-liner to enable multiarch. |
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| 11:40.37 | petern_ | Hmm, not sure why the debian multiarch wiki page includes a load of stuff about ubuntu... |
| 11:41.02 | jelly | petern_: they did it first. |
| 11:41.24 | jelly | feel free to fix extra fluff |
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| 11:44.44 | buu | Oh god its scary |
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| 11:46.31 | petern_ | dpkg --add-architecture i386; apt-get install libc6:i386 |
| 11:46.31 | dpkg | gets an architect to start planning a new hurd-i386 processor |
| 11:46.43 | petern_ | Yeah yeah... |
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| 11:48.28 | jelly | petern_: also, you forgot an update action. |
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| 11:49.15 | buu | Hey, stuff happened |
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| 11:49.31 | petern_ | jelly, oh yeah, true. |
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| 11:54.06 | verysoftoiletppr | I've updated apache2 |
| 11:54.10 | verysoftoiletppr | an now it doesn't work |
| 11:54.20 | verysoftoiletppr | first it complained about /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/authz_default.load |
| 11:54.22 | verysoftoiletppr | I deleted it |
| 11:54.28 | verysoftoiletppr | now it complains about AH00534: apache2: Configuration error: No MPM loaded. |
| 11:54.42 | verysoftoiletppr | helop |
| 11:54.47 | verysoftoiletppr | help |
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| 11:55.54 | Sevet | what's in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ ? do you have a mpm module enabled? |
| 11:57.19 | babilen | verysoftoiletppr: It would also help to know from what you updated exactly (which versions?) Please also show the exact error and include "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy $PKG" (with $PKG == all apache packages) and your sources.list on http://paste.debian.net |
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| 11:58.47 | verysoftoiletppr | mods-enabled http://ix.io/8tb |
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| 11:59.14 | Sevet | ignore that ^... which apache packages do you have installed? 'dpkg -l | grep apache' http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 11:59.52 | Sevet | eg on mine i have apache2 apache2-mpm-prefork apache2-utils apache2.2-bin apache2.2-common |
| 11:59.54 | verysoftoiletppr | http://paste.debian.net/57368/ |
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| 12:00.35 | Sevet | you're on testing? |
| 12:01.06 | verysoftoiletppr | Sevet: testing? no |
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| 12:01.26 | verysoftoiletppr | I was installing libapache2-modsecurity http://paste.debian.net/57369/ |
| 12:01.33 | Sevet | that's apache 2.4 which is in jessie (testing) or above |
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| 12:02.01 | Sevet | 2.4 makes mpm modules instead of being builting, you need to have them enabled from mods-enabled |
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| 12:02.41 | jelly | verysoftoiletppr: you seem to be mixing stable and unstable repositories. That is not a good idea. |
| 12:02.45 | verysoftoiletppr | maybe my sources.list is broken http://paste.debian.net/57371/ |
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| 12:02.49 | Sevet | which the config files the apache2 package ships with does. i'm guessing you're using a 2.2 config with 2.4 which misses those new symlinks |
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| 12:03.21 | Sevet | you're mixing sid with wheezy |
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| 12:03.43 | Sevet | that's where the newer apache2 came from |
| 12:03.45 | jelly | verysoftoiletppr: it's broken. Whoever added the deb line for sid needs a talking to. |
| 12:03.47 | verysoftoiletppr | :( |
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| 12:03.58 | jelly | a STERN talking to. |
| 12:04.15 | Sevet | if you've done apt-get upgrade, your system is much closer to sid than to wheezy now |
| 12:04.22 | verysoftoiletppr | ops |
| 12:04.26 | verysoftoiletppr | shit |
| 12:04.33 | verysoftoiletppr | I did that not so long ago |
| 12:04.42 | Sevet | :/ |
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| 12:04.54 | verysoftoiletppr | is this fixable? |
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| 12:05.24 | themill | sure, use your backups |
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| 12:06.00 | Sevet | you can downgrade packages, but so much will be updated it'll be easier to backup your data, reinstall and then rebuild from the backups |
| 12:06.02 | verysoftoiletppr | backups? I've heard about that somewhere.. |
| 12:06.49 | Sevet | you'll still have your data present (websites databases etc) so you'll still have stuff to backup now and reinstall from |
| 12:07.25 | verysoftoiletppr | that seems a lot of pain |
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| 12:10.10 | verysoftoiletppr | Sevet: do you think the downgrade would break things up? |
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| 12:11.17 | defnordic | I have a colorcoded bash-prompt on my system, but when I switch users, the prompt displays the full code for the colors without interpreting it... |
| 12:11.42 | defnordic | even for a simple format in $PS1, it will display my prompt as "\u@\h:\w$" for example, instead of substituing with variables |
| 12:11.55 | defnordic | I tried with double escapes, but no luck :/ |
| 12:11.57 | defnordic | any ideas? |
| 12:12.08 | Sevet | verysoftoiletppr: i think a reinstall would be less painful and leave you knowing you have a stable system |
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| 12:12.40 | verysoftoiletppr | Sevet: I find the reinstall very painful .. |
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| 12:13.21 | Sevet | downgrading you'll need to figure out what to downgrade, do them one by one, and downgrading isn't tested as well as upgrading (and in some cases may even not be possible) |
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| 12:14.25 | verysoftoiletppr | Sevet: I thought it was just a matter of removing sid from sources.list and calling apt-get upgrade |
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| 12:15.33 | petern_ | Nope, apt won't downgrade packages, so you'll to manually download each and install them in the right order, possibly forcing it. |
| 12:16.04 | babilen | The maintainer scripts and configuration files might still not be able to cope with that. |
| 12:16.17 | petern_ | Indeed. |
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| 12:16.35 | Sevet | hence reinstall is easier :) |
| 12:16.55 | Sevet | i'd try downgrading if it was only apache2 but you did apt-get upgrade on the entire system |
| 12:16.57 | babilen | verysoftoiletppr: Reinstall the system and *do not* mix stable with anything but backports. (no, no Ubuntu, not testing nor unstable) |
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| 12:19.28 | Iridos | babilen, but mint, right? :P |
| 12:19.46 | Iridos | (obviously just kiddin' ) |
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| 12:20.04 | Iridos | sidux should be ok, though |
| 12:21.53 | babilen | scowls at Iridos |
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| 12:26.14 | icesword | dpkg, hi |
| 12:26.14 | dpkg | salut |
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| 12:28.17 | jelly | perhaps apt ought to say "FUCK NO" if it detects deb lines for stable and sid active at the same time |
| 12:28.31 | jelly | starts working on apt-fuckno |
| 12:29.37 | firztspawn | you might also want to start working on apt-hellyeah |
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| 12:30.14 | Sevet | jelly: #706972 while you're at it ;) |
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| 12:30.51 | elfranne | i compiled and install couchdb (0.11) a long time ago , what will happen if i install coucdb from the repository ? |
| 12:31.12 | Sevet | that'll depend where the 0.11 version is |
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| 12:31.39 | jelly | Sevet: my balloon is now sad and deflated |
| 12:32.15 | Sevet | it's not the same... but related :) |
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| 12:32.42 | Sevet | that's more a reaction to all the people coming in here whose installs broke when wheezy was released |
| 12:32.54 | elfranne | Sevet, no special path were specified, so /var/lib/couchdb and /usr/lib/couchdb |
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| 12:33.22 | Sevet | elfranne: i'd uninstall your current one first |
| 12:33.25 | defnordic | anyone have an idea about my broken prompt? :( or another channel suggestion I could bug? |
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| 12:33.50 | icesword | jelly what desktop environment you use |
| 12:34.04 | Sevet | defnordic: something about the TERM environment variable perhaps |
| 12:34.09 | jelly | icesword: xfce and kde4, why |
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| 12:34.21 | elfranne | Sevet, that is the problem ... there is no "make uninstall" in couchdb 0.11 |
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| 12:34.46 | Sevet | yea it'd be manually finding everything and backup up / moving / removing yourself... |
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| 12:34.50 | Sevet | 'cruft' might help |
| 12:34.55 | icesword | jelly which one is better |
| 12:35.24 | Sevet | icesword: that will depend who you ask |
| 12:35.48 | icesword | gnome is not bad |
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| 12:37.32 | defnordic | Sevet: TERM is set to xterm for both users... one has a working prompt, the other doesnt |
| 12:37.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell elfranne -about stow usage |
| 12:37.58 | jelly | icesword: they're both nice. |
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| 12:39.00 | icesword | jelly how big is kde package |
| 12:39.13 | babilen | elfranne: You might want to use stow in the future to ensure that you can easily remove manually installed software. It is also advisable to never install software to /usr/ (or /var) but to /usr/local by setting --prefix= to a suitable value. I know that doesn't help you right now, but will hopefully spare you some pain in the future. |
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| 12:39.33 | icesword | dpkg package KDE |
| 12:39.34 | dpkg | icesword: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 12:39.43 | jelly | icesword: no idea? apt-get -s install kde-plasma-desktop |
| 12:39.55 | jelly | dpkg, tell icesword about install kde |
| 12:40.21 | Lope | I need to make a X session that runs 24/7 with a VNC server (headless, no display adapter). I'm going to try vnc4server and tightvncserver. do I need xorg-server? |
| 12:40.51 | elfranne | babilen, i ll check that out |
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| 12:43.36 | osfd | Hi there. How can I know which options a software from repos has been compiled with ? |
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| 12:45.03 | jelly | Lope: no |
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| 12:48.26 | sam__ | any idea about cjdns? |
| 12:48.39 | osfd | I'd like to know if ngspice is build with xspice-enabled ? |
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| 12:53.31 | Sevet | osfd: you could use 'apt-get source packagename' and look at debian/rules |
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| 12:56.00 | osfd | Sevet: good ideas, if I get the source, where does apt put them ?? |
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| 12:57.06 | osfd | Sevet: current dir obviously |
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| 12:59.54 | trurl | on wheezy, there's an /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog containing mail.log[.err,.info,.warn] without any options specified. Does this mean those logs are rotated as specified in /etc/logrotate.conf (resulting in weekly rotation)? |
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| 13:00.42 | trurl | If i want them to be rotated daily, do i have to insert options into /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog for _each_ mail.* file? |
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| 13:09.42 | bloouup | is there a package available for wine that doesn't come with all the cruft? like I just need wine for one thing, I don't really like having all these wine* programs on my computer that I probably really don't need. |
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| 13:10.17 | bloouup | Although, I would't be surprised if you told me that Minesweeper is so heavily integrated into the nt kernel that without winemine nothing would work. |
| 13:10.42 | bigfoot- | *g* |
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| 13:11.21 | AimHere | I'd guess that there likely isn't such a package |
| 13:11.54 | bloouup | aw. I remember I did some cursory research last night and noticed a package called "wine-bin" but I tried installing it and it pulled all the same stuff |
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| 13:12.33 | AimHere | If you've got time on your hands, there's always apt-get source and a bit of makefile editing |
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| 13:13.06 | bloouup | eh, it's not that important to me. Plus, for all I know most of this stuff really is necessary for wine to work. |
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| 13:13.38 | Sevet | bloouup: i think that's the case |
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| 13:14.01 | bloouup | like, winemine I doubt is necessary, but stuff like winefile and wineboot I could see being required |
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| 13:14.24 | bloouup | winefile probably because programs expect windows explorer to be available |
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| 13:14.36 | AimHere | I think the vast bulk of wine is dll files needed to make program X work |
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| 13:15.15 | deepy | Windows used to be very VERY centered around explorer |
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| 13:15.29 | AimHere | You won't buy much by deleting the wine notepad and winemine and wordpad |
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| 13:16.50 | linedash | so is it confirmed that jessie will be using systemd? |
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| 13:24.05 | ksk | hey debian.. I'd really like to use "SSHD_OPTS" from /etc/default/ssh - but it seems the debian init script calls sshd like "/usr/sbin/sshd -- ${here follos SSHD_OPTS}" and this "--" makes it ignore everything - am i doing it wrong? |
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| 13:26.58 | ksk | init script is: "if start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --oknodo --pidfile /var/run/sshd.pid --exec /usr/sbin/sshd -- $SSHD_OPTS" imho this does not work :/ |
| 13:27.09 | exalt | Hey, whats up with the iso-downloads in the website ? |
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| 13:28.32 | ksk | exalt: i don't know, whats wrong? |
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| 13:28.43 | exalt | ksk: 404 |
| 13:28.47 | exalt | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/kfreebsd-amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 13:28.59 | Sevet | ksk: -- is an argument to start-stop-daemon telling it that what follows are arguments for the binary (sshd) not for start-stop-daemon |
| 13:28.59 | exalt | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.1.0/amd64/iso-cd/ also |
| 13:29.17 | Sevet | exalt: use 7.2.0 or current in the url |
| 13:29.31 | Sevet | there was a new point release 2 days ago so 7.1.0 isn't on that mirror any longer |
| 13:29.31 | ksk | but Sevet, it does not work |
| 13:29.34 | jordanm | ksk: everything after -- with start-stop-daemon is passed to the daemon. the dameon can choose to ignore it |
| 13:29.46 | ksk | mhm.. |
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| 13:30.18 | jelly | ksk: Works For Me™ |
| 13:30.24 | jelly | root 29262 1 0 15:29 ? 00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -o PermitRootLogin=yes |
| 13:30.37 | jelly | SSHD_OPTS="-o PermitRootLogin=yes" |
| 13:30.58 | petn-randall | ksk: Maybe the config file overrides the command line options? |
| 13:31.27 | ksk | the commandlineoption is an "-f" actually |
| 13:31.42 | ksk | ah okay, nevermind. it does work |
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| 13:31.48 | ksk | sorry for wasting your time.. |
| 13:31.48 | jelly | !spank ksk |
| 13:31.48 | dpkg | bends ksk over its knee and delivers a mighty *THWACK* |
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| 13:34.02 | exalt | Sevet: which of the 8 cd's do i have to downloaqd to install debian ? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-cd/ |
| 13:34.09 | ksk | the fist one |
| 13:34.18 | Sevet | you can use netinst |
| 13:34.35 | Sevet | all the installers contain some of the packages and download the rest as needed within the installer |
| 13:34.42 | guardian | hi, I had a squeeze install which php-fpm expects /var/run/php5-fpm to exist. Now ith Wheezy, upon boot that directory doesn't exist. How can I create it at boot myself? |
| 13:34.48 | Sevet | the cds are more useful when you're installing many computers to save bandwidth |
| 13:34.55 | Sevet | netinst is all you really need |
| 13:34.57 | guardian | or should I change php-fpm configuration to use another directory? in that case which one? |
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| 13:36.07 | petn-randall | guardian: Are you using the php5-fpm in wheezy? That didn't exist in squeeze. |
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| 13:36.24 | guardian | petn-randall: yeah for squeeze I used dotdeb |
| 13:36.48 | guardian | petn-randall: but here I've been warned against dotdeb, so when dist-upgrading to Wheezy I stopped using dotdeb and started facing that little issue |
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| 13:37.32 | petn-randall | guardian: You probably have to remove php5-fpm and install the one from wheezy. |
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| 13:37.42 | petn-randall | guardian: Backup any config first, though. |
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| 13:39.15 | guardian | petn-randall: did already and the one from wheezy doesn't create /var/run/php5-fpm |
| 13:41.00 | guardian | all in all, I would like to learn what's the good way to create a directory at boot time, before php5-fpm init script kicks in |
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| 13:55.18 | petn-randall | guardian: /etc/init.d/php-fm should make sure the directory exists. You sure wheezy's init script got installed? |
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| 13:55.41 | petn-randall | guardian: Does 'ls -l /etc/init.d/php-fm*' show any other scripts? |
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| 13:56.42 | guardian | petn-randall: "/etc/init.d/php-fm should make sure the directory exists" <— that assumes the debian package recommends to have a /var/run/php5-fpm subdirectory which doesn't seem to be the case |
| 13:56.49 | pfote | guys, how are chef, puppet & Co called? orchestration systems? configuration management systems? (writing a admin job description) |
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| 13:57.59 | ksk | pfote: configuration managment (wikipedia says so!) |
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| 13:58.11 | guardian | petn-randall: I find having /var/run/php5-fpm subdirectory cleaner because I have a UNIX domain socket per user. It's a shared hosting setup |
| 13:58.24 | petn-randall | pfoo: Centralized configuration management? Where is the job based? |
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| 13:59.04 | pfote | petn-randall: frankfurt, germany |
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| 14:00.14 | petn-randall | pfote: Might be interested. Send me the link when it's up. |
| 14:00.20 | bhuddah | pfote: frankfurt? *wakes up* |
| 14:00.36 | pfote | here's what i have so far: http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/51c01382b9 |
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| 14:05.19 | bhuddah | pfote: good luck. are you looking for contractors or do you really want to hire someone? |
| 14:05.30 | Steadycon | bhuddah, ? Lol. |
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| 14:05.36 | pfote | hire, long term |
| 14:05.47 | bhuddah | Steadycon: ? |
| 14:05.53 | Steadycon | Hello there. |
| 14:05.56 | Steadycon | How are you bhuddah ? |
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| 14:06.41 | bhuddah | Steadycon: i don't get it. |
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| 14:07.26 | pfote | bhuddah: what do you mean, do we require to much? |
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| 14:11.56 | babilen | pfote: This might be better suited for #debian-offtopic both on irc.freenode.net and on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) -- You might also want to consider sending the offer to http://lists.debian.org/debian-jobs/ once you are done. |
| 14:12.36 | pfote | babilen: tnx, will do |
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| 14:14.44 | bhuddah | pfote: no no. i just think it is somewhat hard to find qualified people here in the region, because there are so many IT jobs. |
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| 14:16.49 | pfote | bhuddah: true that |
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| 14:46.10 | LunaLovegood | Is there a way to list the packages that have been manually selected/installed ? |
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| 14:48.37 | LunaLovegood | oh never mind i found it |
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| 14:56.06 | gringao | hi, is there anybody to speak about apache2 please ? |
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| 14:57.19 | jelly | gringao: probably best to assume there is, and ask your real question |
| 14:57.22 | jelly | !ask |
| 14:57.22 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:59.13 | gringao | ok jelly, thks. I wanted to know the usefullity of the symlink between site-available and site-enable ? |
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| 15:00.13 | jelly | gringao: it kind of allows for quick enabling and disabling of a configured VirtualHost |
| 15:00.31 | jelly | whether that's something you care about or not is up to you |
| 15:00.53 | jelly | customer has not paid? Whoops, no site |
| 15:01.38 | LunaLovegood | in any cases it shouldn't affect performance, it's only read at startup, or when you do /etc/init.d/apache2 reload |
| 15:01.43 | gringao | but it's the same file, why create a symlink ? I don't know if you anderstand my question |
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| 15:02.14 | jelly | gringao: sites-available is a handy place to keep vhosts that are switched off |
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| 15:02.49 | gringao | oh ko |
| 15:02.51 | gringao | ok |
| 15:03.03 | jelly | if you use some other kind of automation instead of a2ensite / a2dissite, feel free to ignore that part of the setup |
| 15:03.27 | unkmar | gringao: doesn't have to be a symlink. A hard link works as well but isn't as clear about the purpose. |
| 15:03.32 | gringao | I got my apache who works, everything ok |
| 15:03.35 | jelly | (eg. you might put vhost snippet files directly in sites-enabled if they're generated and configured from someplace else) |
| 15:03.41 | gringao | i just wanted to know why |
| 15:03.56 | jelly | it's just how a2* tools work |
| 15:04.04 | gringao | ah ok |
| 15:04.10 | gringao | it's the a2 tool so |
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| 15:04.29 | jelly | gringao: zless /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/README.Debian.gz |
| 15:04.30 | gringao | thanks guys :) |
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| 15:06.04 | gringao | I havn't got the doc |
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| 15:06.16 | gringao | I will search for it |
| 15:06.21 | gringao | have a nice day |
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| 15:06.31 | elfranne | when I try install gd from cpan |
| 15:06.47 | elfranne | oups |
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| 15:07.44 | trebor_dki | hello. in debian7, is ICEauthority used for x-authorization (~/.Xauthority does not exist anymore)? |
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| 15:10.16 | LunaLovegood | How can I get a list of installed packages that no other packages depend on? |
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| 15:10.47 | elfranne | when i try to install gd from cpan it seems it cannot find gdlib: http://pastebin.com/LdEd7jE5 |
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| 15:11.44 | cmdnoob | i just lost the connection to my linux box, i had a static ip 192.168.2.110 and wanted to bridge eth0 with wlan0 since i just started hostapd |
| 15:11.57 | cmdnoob | root@debian:/etc/hostapd# brctl addbr br0 |
| 15:11.58 | cmdnoob | root@debian:/etc/hostapd# brctl addif br0 eth0 wlan0 |
| 15:12.09 | cmdnoob | now i lost the connection to my box |
| 15:12.23 | PDvic | im running linux with out virusdefender |
| 15:12.33 | LunaLovegood | cmdnoob: i think the bridge itself needs to have a ip address. |
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| 15:12.47 | LunaLovegood | ifconfig br0 192.168.2.110 |
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| 15:13.11 | cmdnoob | i lost connection to my box and it´s headless |
| 15:13.21 | LunaLovegood | can you reboot it? |
| 15:13.30 | koollman | well, then you shouldn't be playing with the network settings ;) |
| 15:13.32 | LunaLovegood | unless you added the commands to startup files? |
| 15:13.36 | cmdnoob | zes reboot should work |
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| 15:13.50 | cmdnoob | powerplug |
| 15:14.06 | PDvic | zombies dfont survive with out heads |
| 15:14.20 | Cylta | (don't ban me, i'm not trolling). Can I take ready installed ubuntu and "upgrade" it to debian? |
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| 15:15.17 | PDvic | this isnt #ubuntu |
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| 15:15.33 | LunaLovegood | Cylta, i did it a while ago, can't remember how |
| 15:16.08 | LunaLovegood | you can probably just change your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to debian servers, do apt-get update, and go from there |
| 15:16.26 | PDvic | ive upgrded redhat to centos |
| 15:17.41 | jelly | LunaLovegood: that will result in a horrible mess and neither #debian nor #ubuntu will support such a system. Don't do it unless you're prepared to support such a system on your own. |
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| 15:18.05 | LunaLovegood | yeah that computer is kinda kludgy |
| 15:18.07 | jelly | LunaLovegood: in short, that's BAD, BAD ADVICE. Bad Luna! No cookie. |
| 15:19.14 | sover | did you say you upgraded redhat to centos? |
| 15:19.19 | sover | nvm, not opening that pandora's box |
| 15:19.36 | jelly | Cylta: again, you can partition and format a separate filesystem and put a fresh installation of Debian there using debootstrap. |
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| 15:20.21 | sover | I do have a quick question that's been bothering me. Is there anything like a nullfs in debian? I'd like to make /var/log pretty much a blackhole |
| 15:20.24 | jelly | Cylta: your arm embedded system installation setup will differ quite a bit from what's described in debian installation guide, tho. |
| 15:20.26 | LunaLovegood | Well, ubuntu and debian use the same packaging system, so when you upgrade a package from one distro to another, it can still do a proper uninstall of all the old files. it worked for me. i'm sure there were other steps i did tho |
| 15:21.03 | jelly | LunaLovegood: it "works" with certain package sets but is not maintainable at all |
| 15:21.03 | PDvic | there a new distrowatch weeklly |
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| 15:21.59 | LunaLovegood | sover: maybe you can add 'truncate --size 0 /var/log/*' to your cron.hourly ? |
| 15:22.28 | Cylta | jelly: on debian website, I've found only images for arm on cd, what is absurd =) is there any place where I can find ready image for arm? or usb\uSD image? |
| 15:23.09 | jelly | Cylta: no. Installation procedure is highly dependant on the specific board. |
| 15:23.35 | jelly | Cylta: Debian does not provide official images for sunxi boards. Yet. |
| 15:23.50 | jhutchins | LunaLovegood: mixing distributions is always a bad idea and will most likely result in having to do a clean reinstall. That you got away with it once or twice doesn't justify recommending it to others. |
| 15:24.02 | Cylta | jelly: for any other arm boards? I just something that will able to boot on itself (like uboot). |
| 15:24.36 | PDvic | jhutchins: there shouldnt be any problems if both distro complly to the LSB |
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| 15:25.09 | jhutchins | PDvic: The lsb is nowhere near comprehensive enough to cover the differences among distributions. |
| 15:25.11 | jelly | Cylta: no idea, I suggest reading the armhf or armel installation guide |
| 15:25.18 | jelly | also, |
| 15:25.20 | jelly | !arm |
| 15:25.20 | dpkg | Advanced RISC Machine (ARM) is a processor architecture. The Debian arm port was deprecated at 5.0 "Lenny" with official support dropped at 6.0 "Squeeze", ask me about <armel> for the replacement port. See also <armhf>. http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/ For help with Debian on ARM systems, join #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 15:25.32 | cmdnoob | now i gave the bride an ip and it didn´t crash, my phone connected even to the network and i see that i got the right ip but i still don´t seem to have internet |
| 15:25.34 | jelly | that channel on that other irc network |
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| 15:26.08 | DammitJim | do you guys know if one can configure synergy to work with encryption on Debian? |
| 15:26.09 | jelly | cmdnoob: you gave your... bride... and ip? |
| 15:26.13 | LunaLovegood | cmdnoob: do you have a dhcp server and routes set up? |
| 15:26.14 | PDvic | my computer always hvae 127.0.0.1 ip |
| 15:26.18 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 15:26.21 | Cylta | !armhf |
| 15:26.21 | dpkg | armhf is a port of Debian requiring a floating-point unit (FPU) found in modern <ARM> hardware. It explicitly targets version 7 of the ARM architecture (i.e. not the Raspberry Pi), using the hard-float version of the ARM EABI. The armhf architecture was introduced at Debian 7.0 "Wheezy". http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net. See also <armel vs armhf>. |
| 15:26.47 | johnfg | Was there an update to grub recently that would have caused grub.cfg to be overwritten? |
| 15:26.52 | cmdnoob | i have a dhcp server on my main router so i thought i could just skip setting up a second dhcp |
| 15:27.08 | LunaLovegood | cmdnoob: should work |
| 15:27.16 | johnfg | My wheezy and windoze entries appear, but squeeze is gone. |
| 15:27.25 | LunaLovegood | have you checked if you can ping google from the router? |
| 15:27.28 | cmdnoob | network signal info tells me that it´s connected to the hostapd hostspot and show 192.168.2.101 as ip and 192.168.2.1 as gatewaz |
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| 15:28.05 | PDvic | finez |
| 15:28.14 | Yogi_Bear | Invitation - Only Debian Chat Room http://www.tatuuu.com.br |
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| 15:29.30 | jhutchins | johnfg: You are most likely using grub2 from squeeze or wheezy; it updates grub.cfg automatically. You can try running update-grub to re-detect the missing installation. |
| 15:29.41 | PDvic | yogi is a pedo |
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| 15:29.57 | cmdnoob | strange i didn´t loose the putty session but can´t establish a new one either or reach the headless box from the laptop in the same lan |
| 15:30.00 | jelly | PDvic: don't click random links from people on irc. |
| 15:30.08 | PDvic | why not? |
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| 15:30.18 | jelly | it's not safe |
| 15:30.18 | PDvic | i click anything |
| 15:30.23 | PDvic | BS |
| 15:30.38 | johnfg | jhutchins: definitely grub2 on wheezy, I just don't remember an overwrite like that without my knowledge. |
| 15:30.40 | PDvic | the NSA is ontop of things |
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| 15:31.03 | jelly | sometimes it's unsafe for your brain, sometimes it's unsafe for your computer or its OS |
| 15:31.14 | PDvic | scarry |
| 15:31.28 | PDvic | i reckon i should disconnect now |
| 15:31.35 | johnfg | jhutchins: I'll go ahead and run update-grub and I'm pretty sure it will find squeeze. It's not that I run squeeze a lot, but if I need to, I want it there. |
| 15:31.56 | jhutchins | johnfg: That's certainly a valid configuration. |
| 15:32.19 | jhutchins | johnfg: If you need to make manual changes, edit /etc/default/grub |
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| 15:33.07 | johnfg | jhutchins: Right. And that's been the config since wheezy came out. I did have squeeze, windoze and lenny, then did away with lenny when wheezy came out. |
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| 15:34.49 | cmdnoob | is it not possible to keep eth0 with it´s static own ip and just bridge the wlan0 through ? |
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| 15:35.22 | cmdnoob | i can´t ping the box any longer and now putty lost the connection again so it´s reboot time again :P |
| 15:35.45 | PDvic | puting fun back in computing |
| 15:36.10 | jelly | cmdnoob: if you create a bridge on top of eth0, the IP address has to be removed from the member iface and transferred to the bridge iface |
| 15:36.20 | DrOwl | Hi all, can you chnage the facility that Ferm logs too? |
| 15:36.28 | PDvic | my system is so fine i could run it for ages with out reboot |
| 15:36.34 | sover | PDvic is a fun troll :) |
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| 15:36.51 | jayzio | How much disk space does a standard Debian server installation take up? |
| 15:37.01 | sover | LunaLovegood: that's one solution, but I was really hoping to make a big catch-all |
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| 15:37.29 | sover | the "right" solution is probably going into each program that logs and modify its configuration to drop all logs into /dev/null |
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| 15:37.56 | Lancien | hi all |
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| 15:38.08 | sover | but I haven't yet investigated how big the task of identifying and configuring all applications will be |
| 15:38.10 | codestation | hi, there is a way to build a deb package omiting the debian/changelog contents? (putting the version number somewhere else) or at least generate the changelog using the git tags? I tried to use git-buildpackage but it insists to have a non empty debian/changelog file and a debian branch (that i don't want to have) |
| 15:38.14 | sover | good morning Lancien |
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| 15:38.41 | jhutchins | sover: Or maybe learning how the syslog system is supposed to work and be configured. |
| 15:39.11 | sover | jhutchins: that's possible, but I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to do without being sarcastic about it |
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| 15:39.20 | Lope | does anyone have any opinions on amazon's EC2 security? they claim your guest OS won't ever get accessed. what do you reckon? |
| 15:39.35 | sover | my very recent experience in #debian has lead me to have concern on that note |
| 15:39.37 | jelly | codestation: well you don't _have to_ use git-buildpackage, generating debian/changelog some other way and running dpkg-buildpackage on its own is an option |
| 15:39.39 | Lancien | :D |
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| 15:41.13 | sover | jhutchins: my reasoning for a "blackhole" solution is a result of the platform I'm on. This is debian running on a 4gb filesystem, meant to run without modification |
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| 15:42.01 | sover | the kiosk doesn't have a need for logs, so ideally it won't have any stored. If I have to rotate them hourly, that's okay, but I feel that if I know for a fact that the logs will never be used the "right" thing to do is to make sure they don't occupy space at all. |
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| 15:42.39 | LunaLovegood | cd /var/log ; for f in * */*; do ln -s /dev/null "$f"; done |
| 15:42.52 | LunaLovegood | er, sorry, forgot to rm first |
| 15:42.57 | PDvic | im betting that with thei windows8 migration there is going to be lots of nice hardwaer to be found in dumpsters alover the place |
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| 15:43.00 | LunaLovegood | cd /var/log ; for f in * */*; do rm "$f"; ln -s /dev/null "$f"; done |
| 15:43.07 | sover | LunaLovegood: as much hackery as that is, I really like that. |
| 15:43.13 | sover | I don't know why I hadn't thought of that |
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| 15:44.43 | LunaLovegood | if you do that, make sure you don't have logrotate stuff in your cron.* |
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| 15:45.10 | jelly | LunaLovegood: good heavens, just disable syslog if you don't need it |
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| 15:45.42 | PDvic | i cant disasble syslog hes the only friend that emails me |
| 15:45.49 | sover | L"OL |
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| 15:48.28 | verysoftoiletppr | I've installded libapache2-modsecurity with apt-get but it isn't loading |
| 15:48.49 | verysoftoiletppr | or, it isn't being loaded http://paste.debian.net/plain/57459 |
| 15:48.57 | LunaLovegood | check /etc/apache2/mods-enabled, and your apache logs |
| 15:49.23 | cmdnoob | is there #debian chatlog ? somewhere in case someone got to reboot or check a wifi connection and can´t stay online in case someone said anything in response ? |
| 15:49.33 | jhutchins | verysoftoiletppr: Hint: a2enmod |
| 15:49.51 | sover | jelly: will disabling syslog do anything about any other programs that write to /var/log that don't use syslog? |
| 15:49.51 | verysoftoiletppr | jhutchins: sure, but what is the module name? |
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| 15:50.10 | LunaLovegood | sover: obviously not |
| 15:50.23 | jelly | dpkg, tell cmdnoob about irclog |
| 15:50.34 | sover | I didn't think it would, but I don't know enough about syslog to know whether or not it specifically does something with the /var/log folder |
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| 15:50.49 | verysoftoiletppr | jhutchins: nevermind found it |
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| 15:51.36 | jhutchins | sover: Basically programs log to the "syslog facility", which allows you to configure what information is recorded where, and the logrotate system controls how much information is kept. |
| 15:51.52 | jelly | sover: it won't |
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| 15:52.07 | PDvic | YOU GOT LOVE 20TH CENTURIE TECHNOLOGIES |
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| 15:52.17 | sover | jhutchins: that's useful, and don't mind configuring to that. Do I have to worry about many other programs not using syslog? |
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| 15:52.38 | jhutchins | sover: While it won't prevent other programs from writing directly to that filesystem, most programs use syslog to manage the logs there. If they don't use syslog, they usually log somewhere else. |
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| 15:52.58 | PDvic | using linux is like living in the 80ies |
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| 15:53.36 | sover | jhutchins: good to know. I'll go ahead and configure syslog then. Is it possible to to have syslog just not store logs at all, without disabling it in a way that could make programs trying to write to it error out? |
| 15:53.55 | jhutchins | sover: Yes. |
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| 15:54.28 | sover | jhutchins: perfect, thanks for your help. Will google/man documentation on syslog. Any resources you prefer over standard google searches? |
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| 15:55.21 | PDvic | i cant find syslog app anywere on the menus |
| 15:55.27 | jhutchins | sover: Well, man pages and comments in config files, and your system probably uses rsyslog, which can log to other linux systems running it instead lf logging locally. |
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| 15:56.05 | sover | jhutchins: remote logging would be really handy for these, I think. |
| 15:57.54 | PDvic | you said handy? |
| 15:59.04 | PDvic | man i hate pidgin if it was up n running id kill it |
| 16:00.01 | PDvic | miranda im is being ported to linux soon |
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| 16:00.17 | dcx | 0 |
| 16:00.21 | PDvic | sweet |
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| 16:00.41 | petern_ | Complete with NSA backdoors? |
| 16:00.44 | cmdnoob | connected devgrr connected devices recieve the right configuration but i only get host unreachable when i ping |
| 16:00.57 | PDvic | what backdoors? |
| 16:01.00 | jelly | PDvic: you can do better, this is too obvious for trolling, and worse, not funny |
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| 16:01.37 | jelly | "but I'm not trolling at all" |
| 16:01.40 | PDvic | jelly im sorry my trolling isnt up to your standrds |
| 16:01.52 | jelly | put some effort into it |
| 16:02.00 | BitPuffin | is http://mozilla.debian.net/ the latest mozilla stuff? |
| 16:02.27 | PDvic | will i get a cookie? |
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| 16:03.11 | PDvic | debian is using seamonkey |
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| 16:04.22 | peterS | bah. dhcpd thinks "subnet 10.4.4.0 netmask 255.255.255.192" does not match "inet 10.4.4.44/26 scope global eth0". what did I do wrong? |
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| 16:05.01 | peterS | ...or is dhcpd so stupid that it only looks at the _first_ configured ipv4 address for an interface? (that one is the second) |
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| 16:05.12 | PDvic | why arent we all using IPV6? |
| 16:05.37 | peterS | I've been asking much the same question, but the fact remains, my DHCP clients do still need IPv4 connectivity |
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| 16:05.54 | umarzuki | BitPuffin: yes it seems |
| 16:05.59 | BitPuffin | umarzuki: nice |
| 16:06.04 | jumperswitch | hi |
| 16:06.19 | jumperswitch | So how can the system providing the bridge get an ip address (ipv4 would be enough)? |
| 16:06.24 | jumperswitch | Because the bridge normally got no ip address. |
| 16:06.39 | jumperswitch | So how can the host be pinged by other machines connected to that bridge |
| 16:06.57 | cthuluh | set an address on the bridge interface |
| 16:07.01 | peterS | jumperswitch: a bridge can have an IP address just like any other network device |
| 16:07.13 | peterS | jumperswitch: 'iface br0 inet dhcp' in /etc/network/interfaces for example |
| 16:07.28 | cthuluh | actually some OSes only allow IP addresses on bridge member interfaces |
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| 16:07.35 | peterS | cthuluh: yes but this is #debian |
| 16:08.00 | cthuluh | sure? |
| 16:08.10 | peterS | pretty sure, it's what my IRC client says |
| 16:08.27 | cthuluh | I was just trying to answer jumperswitch's question and doubts |
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| 16:09.22 | daemonkeeper | Well. He asked the same in ##networking already :> |
| 16:09.35 | cmdnoob | it´s kind of the issue i had as well |
| 16:09.41 | PDvic | i have a a switched bridged hub gatewayed router |
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| 16:09.57 | peterS | well, just saying, if you ask a question in #debian, an answer that may or may not work in some other random OSes is still appropriate, so long as it works in Debian |
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| 16:10.00 | cthuluh | peterS: you dhcpd problem looks tasty... |
| 16:10.07 | jumperswitch | debhelper: hi |
| 16:10.21 | cthuluh | debhelper is a bot |
| 16:10.22 | cmdnoob | i wonder why a bridge can´t be transparent |
| 16:10.31 | peterS | cmdnoob: transparent in what way? |
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| 16:10.47 | PDvic | cmdnoob: because plains might hit it |
| 16:11.11 | peterS | cmdnoob: you're saying why does it _have_ to have an IP address? It doesn't have to. but if it's useful to give it an IP address, as it almost always is for me, then go ahead and do it |
| 16:11.12 | cmdnoob | in the way that i don´t understand that the bridge needs an ip adress since the eth0 already got one in my case |
| 16:11.17 | jelly | cmdnoob: it can. It is. That's exactly why there's only one address setting for the whole bridge. |
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| 16:11.31 | cmdnoob | i just want wlan0 connected with dhcp from the main router |
| 16:11.42 | cmdnoob | bridged to eth0 |
| 16:11.47 | jelly | cmdnoob: so move the eth0 settings for the IP address to br0. |
| 16:11.50 | peterS | cmdnoob: I find it less confusing to put the IP on the bridge rather than on the underlying eth. but hey, whatever works for you. |
| 16:11.59 | cmdnoob | yes that was what i did |
| 16:12.03 | jelly | peterS: also, the latter does not work |
| 16:12.07 | cmdnoob | didn´t you even tell me so |
| 16:12.09 | peterS | oh, doesn't it? ok then |
| 16:12.14 | cmdnoob | and everything almost worked |
| 16:12.16 | PDvic | you folks really like spaghetti |
| 16:12.37 | peterS | PDvic: seriously? do you have anything constructive to add? or ask? or is this going to be markov all day long? |
| 16:12.49 | jelly | cmdnoob: can you pastebin your current /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 16:12.53 | PDvic | whats markov? |
| 16:13.10 | PDvic | must be a stinkking commie |
| 16:13.43 | PDvic | i dont know my system just works |
| 16:13.48 | cmdnoob | yes, after i rebooted the box again |
| 16:13.54 | jumperswitch | hi |
| 16:13.57 | LunaLovegood | how do mac address work on wifi? maybe the wifi router doesn't like routing multiple ip addresses (on the other side of your bridge) to the same wifi client ? |
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| 16:14.16 | jumperswitch | So how is the system called serving a bridge? And how are the systems called using that bridge? |
| 16:14.18 | jumperswitch | Bridge-members? Bridge-host? |
| 16:14.32 | LunaLovegood | a switch? |
| 16:14.38 | LunaLovegood | L2 router? |
| 16:14.44 | jumperswitch | L2 bridge |
| 16:15.02 | jelly | well bridges are L2 by definition |
| 16:15.29 | PDvic | is this debian? |
| 16:15.38 | PDvic | sound like #networking |
| 16:15.38 | peterS | LunaLovegood: yeah you can think of wifi as basically a switch or bridge. though as many switches, there are WAPs that have additional L3 functionality |
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| 16:16.51 | jumperswitch | yes |
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| 16:17.08 | jumperswitch | I want that the bridge itself (rather the system providing the bridge) to have an ip address |
| 16:17.11 | peterS | PDvic: there are other channels out there where you can try to be clever and non sequitur without actually getting in the way of people getting their questions answered. take it to one of those please |
| 16:17.22 | jumperswitch | The bridge members all got ip addresses, now I want that those can reach the bridge (system), too |
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| 16:17.44 | jumperswitch | I don't know how to name such a thing. Is the system serving the bridge also called a 'bridge'? |
| 16:17.47 | peterS | jumperswitch: 'man interfaces', that is where /etc/network/interfaces is documented. that's where you generally want to set up your IP addresses. Including for a bridge. |
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| 16:18.12 | jumperswitch | peterS: so when I assign an ip address to the bridge (br0), it would be reachable by it from all bridge members? |
| 16:18.16 | peterS | correct |
| 16:18.34 | jargon | chakotay |
| 16:18.34 | __marco | hello, I'm trying to use gdb with the libgtk-dbg package but I get the following error: /tmp/buildd/gtk+2.0-2.24.10/gtk/gtkfilechooser.c: File o directory non esistente |
| 16:18.43 | MrMonkey31 | er, bit o' help? grep -v is a thing, right? so how come it doesn't work with find -name blah? |
| 16:18.46 | __marco | i.e. no such file or directory |
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| 16:19.08 | peterS | MrMonkey31: it works fine with find. what are you trying to do? how are you trying to do it? |
| 16:19.22 | __marco | I don't know if this is the cause but the list command does not print any context line |
| 16:19.23 | cmdnoob | http://pastebin.com/heqv0Bmu |
| 16:19.30 | BitPuffin | what does debian use for a system daemon? |
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| 16:19.48 | jargon | BitPuffin: who wants to know? |
| 16:19.50 | jumperswitch | peterS: OK, under /etc/network/interfaces I set the bridge br0 static and set an ip address and subnet mask. But I cannot ping it. |
| 16:19.50 | peterS | there are many daemons that run on a Debian system |
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| 16:20.10 | peterS | jumperswitch: did you run 'ifup br0' ? ifup is what reads the interfaces file and applies it |
| 16:20.18 | BitPuffin | jargon: me |
| 16:20.25 | cmdnoob | jelly: i put in what i did and that my phone was connected, and in the 2nd part the interfaces |
| 16:20.32 | BitPuffin | isit sysvinit? |
| 16:20.33 | jargon | BitPuffin: who can vouch for u? it's all about trust |
| 16:20.43 | jumperswitch | peterS: Destination Host Unreachable |
| 16:20.57 | peterS | what said destination host unreachable? |
| 16:20.57 | BitPuffin | jargon: o.O |
| 16:21.05 | jumperswitch | peterS: iface br0 inet static address 192.168.120.1 |
| 16:21.13 | jelly | cmdnoob: oh, so you don't have br0 in interfaces yet. Read man bridge-utils-interfaces |
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| 16:21.28 | jumperswitch | peterS: when a bridge member pings now 192.168.120.1 - Destination Host Unreachable |
| 16:21.30 | cmdnoob | did you see that i created it first ? |
| 16:21.31 | jargon | BitPuffin: not good enough |
| 16:21.33 | peterS | jumperswitch: normally you will need a netmask as well. so either "address 192.168.120.1/24" (for example) or a separate line "netmask 255.255.255.0" |
| 16:21.43 | cmdnoob | if i put it in the interfaces i got to reflash my sd everytime |
| 16:21.45 | MrMonkey31 | peterS: I use cmds from root like find -name grub, and get a ton of "Permission denieds" so I figured I'd | grep v it, but it does not eliminate the useless denied lines. I've tried a number of variants also |
| 16:21.56 | jumperswitch | peterS: also restarted network and checked using ip command / ifconfig if the ip address is really changed now. |
| 16:21.56 | jelly | cmdnoob: huh? |
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| 16:22.13 | BitPuffin | system-v |
| 16:22.15 | BitPuffin | okay |
| 16:22.20 | BitPuffin | jargon: found it on the wiki |
| 16:22.21 | MrMonkey31 | peterS: example find -name grub | grep -v 'Perm' |
| 16:22.25 | peterS | MrMonkey31: oh - the find command errors do not go to the standard output stream where grep can see them, because mixing regular output lines and error messages would mess up whatever other processing you want to do with those filenames |
| 16:22.31 | jargon | BitPuffin: \o/ |
| 16:22.36 | cmdnoob | that´s why i added the putty log of what i did |
| 16:22.40 | peterS | MrMonkey31: instead it goes to a separate stream called 'standard error', which does not get included in the pipe to grep |
| 16:22.54 | cmdnoob | so that you saw that i came to the point of which a client connected |
| 16:22.59 | BitPuffin | jargon: o/\o |
| 16:23.01 | peterS | MrMonkey31: if you want to discard the standard error stream, the usual way is to append 2>/dev/null to your command |
| 16:23.12 | jumperswitch | debhelper: test |
| 16:23.18 | jumperswitch | damn, my connection is broken again |
| 16:23.25 | MrMonkey31 | peterS: ahhh so that's what that does. thanks chief! :-> |
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| 16:23.35 | peterS | MrMonkey31: where 2> means redirect file descriptor 2, which is the standard number for standard error (0 is standard input, 1 is standard output) |
| 16:24.17 | jelly | cmdnoob: are you saying a reboot resets your interfaces file? |
| 16:24.36 | cmdnoob | when i reboot |
| 16:24.44 | cmdnoob | i don´t have changes |
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| 16:24.51 | jelly | cmdnoob: in any case, sorry, I'm going away for a while, be back in an hour |
| 16:25.05 | cmdnoob | np |
| 16:25.13 | cmdnoob | thx |
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| 16:33.42 | jumperswitch | hi again |
| 16:33.44 | jumperswitch | my connection got problems |
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| 16:35.05 | copec | Does anyone in here know how to enable a linux console on a serial port _after_ it has booted? |
| 16:35.34 | peterS | copec: sure. edit /etc/inittab, add (or uncomment) the console line, then 'telinit q' to reload init |
| 16:35.47 | copec | that will launch the getty |
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| 16:35.54 | copec | but will the kernel messages go there too? |
| 16:36.05 | peterS | copec: well, no, that won't get you kernel messages and /dev/console support |
| 16:36.20 | peterS | not sure if _that_ can be done after boot. probably can but I don't know how. |
| 16:36.33 | copec | that's sort of where I am :-/ |
| 16:36.57 | peterS | some reason you can't just put it in your boot loader, then? |
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| 16:38.44 | copec | It is a production server that has begun mysteriously resetting/rebooting, but doesn't have anything in the logs after reboot |
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| 16:39.25 | copec | It isn't debian, just #debian is where I like to ask generic questions to fish for knowledgeable people :-) |
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| 16:42.26 | Sevet | copec: power/hardware issues perhaps |
| 16:43.09 | kriskropd | why would a new bash shell not load .bashrc unless i run "bash" within the shell? 'ps' indicates i am infact using a bash shell |
| 16:43.27 | srhb | kriskropd: Because it's a login shell, probably |
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| 16:43.57 | srhb | kriskropd: Check the "invocation" section of the bash manual. |
| 16:45.15 | peterS | yeah the story of what files get read at startup time by various shells, depending on whether they are interactive or noninteractive, login shells or not login shells ... is a bit complicated (: |
| 16:45.25 | kriskropd | srhb: that seems like what is happening - how might i make it stop doing this? I don't recall ever setting it to start a login shell |
| 16:45.52 | srhb | kriskropd: Change the way it's invoked via the parameters there, or make .bash_profile do what you want. |
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| 16:46.33 | kriskropd | srhb: what i mean is, where do i change the invocation? where do I add the parameters? |
| 16:46.50 | srhb | kriskropd: How are you launching your shell? |
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| 16:47.21 | kriskropd | srhb: in this case, I'm inside tmux inside an ssh session |
| 16:47.34 | srhb | kriskropd: You can make tmux not launch the shell as a login shell |
| 16:47.40 | kriskropd | srhb: cp .bashrc .bash_profile seems to work, but I don't know if that is valid practice |
| 16:47.45 | jhutchins | kriskropd: Rather than trying to change how the system works, why not learn how it's intended to be used? |
| 16:47.56 | srhb | kriskropd: I would say changing tmux to make it launch your shells as interactive is WRONG. |
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| 16:48.05 | kriskropd | jhutchins: I've never experienced this before, so I'm learning |
| 16:48.08 | srhb | kriskropd: So yeah, sharing code between those two files is smarter. :-) |
| 16:48.12 | jhutchins | kriskropd: One advantage of that will be that if you work on a new system, you will know what to expect. |
| 16:48.33 | srhb | kriskropd: The deal is that a login shell has to set up a lot more environment than when I, say, launch a shell in my X environment |
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| 16:48.42 | srhb | kriskropd: The interactive shell can just inherit everything and all is good. |
| 16:48.46 | srhb | (usually) |
| 16:48.48 | jumperswitch | Is that true that one can even find those very old telegraphy protocols in unix systems? |
| 16:49.03 | jhutchins | jumperswitch: Which protocols? |
| 16:49.22 | peterS | referring to the fact that a terminal device is still known as a 'tty'? |
| 16:49.45 | kriskropd | srhb: I see, thank you for your insight :) |
| 16:49.56 | kriskropd | and you too jhutchins |
| 16:50.08 | srhb | kriskropd: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/38175/difference-between-login-shell-and-non-login-shell |
| 16:50.28 | srhb | kriskropd: In essence, I think you will notice what things should be common between the two files and what should not. :-) |
| 16:50.35 | jhutchins | kriskropd: An interactive shell is as opposed to the shell that executes a scheduled task without user intervention. |
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| 16:55.26 | jumperswitch | jhutchins: tty |
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| 17:00.08 | jhutchins | jumperswitch: The elements that are preserved from the old protocols are still useful in defining how to communicate interactively with a computer, and between computers. |
| 17:00.51 | jumperswitch | I find it interesting how some stuff is so robust that it is even used today |
| 17:01.06 | jhutchins | jumperswitch: My uncle is actually the guy who designed the protocols that put text on CRT screens, so it's not _that_ old. |
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| 17:02.07 | jumperswitch | jhutchins: really? cool |
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| 17:02.25 | jumperswitch | jhutchins: the text mode for graphic cards? |
| 17:03.04 | jhutchins | jumperswitch: Think flight data on radar screens, but yeah, eventually it led there. |
| 17:03.59 | jhutchins | The original IBM PC wasn't powerful enough to emulate an IBM text terminal. |
| 17:04.02 | jumperswitch | jhutchins: so I have to search for some computer scientist named Hutchins? |
| 17:04.13 | jhutchins | jumperswitch: Buckland. |
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| 17:05.23 | jumperswitch | jhutchins: He?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Buckland |
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| 17:07.41 | jhutchins | Lawrence F. |
| 17:08.08 | jumperswitch | ah |
| 17:08.40 | jhutchins | He went on to run the compnay that did the typesetting for the first digitally typeset book, the American Heritage Dictionary. |
| 17:09.08 | peterS | troff? |
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| 17:26.50 | snollux | Hello! I'm trying, and failing, to build a 32-bit binary DPKG on my 64 bit machine. Surely I don't need to create it from a 32-bit machine, right? |
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| 17:31.13 | guest0 | Hi, I just upgraded to wheezy and everything went fine, thanks to all people who worked on that! The sole "error" was that I had the service exim disabled at startup but it seems that the upgrading procedure reenabled it at startup again. |
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| 17:38.43 | LunaLovegood | snollux I beleive you'll need to add the i386 architecture to your dpkg, and the i386 binary packages to your /etc/apt/sources.list, then install gcc:i386, and use that to compile your packages. |
| 17:38.57 | LunaLovegood | see dpkg --add-architecture |
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| 17:41.45 | rockyiii | mate debian repositories http://packages.debian.org/jessie/mate-common ?? |
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| 17:42.53 | rockyiii | enter Mate-desktop in debian repositories?? |
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| 17:48.55 | ksk | guest0: you maybe want to use the tool "rcconf" to disable services startup |
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| 17:49.24 | danlamanna | perhaps i'm just awful at navigating, but i can't find the bug tracking for apt-get? i keep getting thrown to bug tracking for the actual wiki |
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| 17:51.08 | ksk | danlamanna: the packages name is "apt" |
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| 17:51.40 | ksk | danlamanna: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?dist=stable;package=apt |
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| 17:52.40 | danlamanna | ksk: thanks! yeah i meant apt. it encompasses apt, apt-get, apt-cache, apt-config, etc? |
| 17:52.57 | ksk | danlamanna: Id think so |
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| 18:18.37 | ping__ | how to get free tshirt debian :D |
| 18:19.50 | ping__ | where I can order a free linux clothes |
| 18:20.40 | Sary | ping__: http://www.debian.org/misc/merchandise |
| 18:20.45 | srhb | ping__: You can _buy_ Debian merchandise, there's a list of shops here: |
| 18:20.47 | srhb | http://www.debian.org/misc/merchandise |
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| 18:21.17 | ping__ | free ? |
| 18:21.37 | srhb | ping__: No. |
| 18:21.43 | ping__ | :( |
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| 18:28.50 | Kobra | hey, can anyone help me try to get a Realtek Wifi device working? |
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| 18:29.37 | dvs | Kobra: maybe.... ;-) |
| 18:29.41 | Kobra | it's hw id thing is 10ec:8723 |
| 18:29.50 | Kobra | and i've tried to install firmware-realtek |
| 18:29.54 | dvs | ,pciid 10ec:8723 |
| 18:29.54 | Kobra | no luck though :C |
| 18:29.54 | judd | [10ec:8723] is 'RTL8723AE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter' from 'Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.' with no known kernel module in wheezy but has kernel module 'rtl8723ae' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10ec:8723 |
| 18:30.06 | Kobra | ah, sid |
| 18:30.11 | Kobra | so if i upgrade to sid, i can get it |
| 18:30.12 | dvs | well. there's your answer. |
| 18:30.38 | dvs | Kobra: or use backports |
| 18:30.45 | Kobra | it's my mom's laptop, so i was going to try and avoid sid, but oh well |
| 18:30.55 | Kobra | dvs, how? |
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| 18:31.12 | dvs | !bpo kernel |
| 18:31.12 | dpkg | Newer kernels for Debian stable releases are available from the "wheezy-backports" repository. Ask me about <wheezy-backports> to modify your sources.list, then run «aptitude update». To install the current backported kernel: «aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'`». To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backports))'». |
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| 18:31.33 | dvs | !wheezy-backports |
| 18:31.33 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the "Jessie" (8.0) release of Debian but recompiled for use with "Wheezy" (7.x) can be found in the "wheezy-backports" repository. Note that wheezy-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
| 18:31.41 | peterrooney | So, I'm running xine at nice -19, ionice 1, and audio STILL stutters on occasion. quadcore i3, load under 0.3. I had better mp3 playback on a 1990s apple. Any ideas to smooth this out? |
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| 18:32.10 | Kobra | ah, so i can just add the repos for backpports, and all will be good? |
| 18:32.20 | dvs | and install the kernel |
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| 18:32.38 | Kobra | :P |
| 18:32.57 | dvs | ...then again I might not help. ;-) |
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| 18:33.38 | Kobra | ill try backports before sid then |
| 18:33.50 | dvs | definitely |
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| 18:43.05 | debianfrww | Hello folks, im trying to install debian on my netbook. I need a firmware called rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin if i put the firmware .deb file on usb stick, will it load or do i need the .bin-file? |
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| 18:44.18 | steven4455 | How does dpkg know that "debian-kernel-handbook" is available while I have not installed it: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/4ebfdcf71ee45e781ad7 ? |
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| 18:44.48 | Kobra | dvs, yup, that worked flawlessly; thanks! |
| 18:44.58 | dvs | Kobra: no prob |
| 18:45.26 | dvs | debianfrww: I'd used the firmware.iso |
| 18:45.52 | peterrooney | steven4455: apt-cache policy debian-kernel-handbook |
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| 18:46.39 | steven4455 | peterrooney, what do you mean with this? |
| 18:46.59 | debianfrww | dvs: will try it, thank you |
| 18:47.08 | dvs | debianfrww: no prob |
| 18:47.16 | frikinz | steven4455: was probably once installed |
| 18:47.53 | PDvic | having fun? |
| 18:48.42 | pirret | anyone using opera browser here? |
| 18:49.27 | pirret | if yes, can you visit http://soikku.fi/ and confirm that opera keeps loading that page infinitely |
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| 19:01.31 | DammitJim | I am getting a "Cannot access repository" when trying to install testing on a VM |
| 19:01.39 | DammitJim | are repositories not working with jessie? |
| 19:02.14 | frikinz | steven4455: rather, its a dependency of one of your (once in)stalled packages (/var/lib/dpkg/status) |
| 19:02.35 | frikinz | gahhh |
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| 19:03.07 | patriku | Hi, I have been trying it for so many times but with no luck. Is there any way to offload cpu and take advantage of gpu acceleration whilst using nouveau driver in sid ? Thanks |
| 19:03.30 | buu | WHY IS LINUX SO STUPID |
| 19:03.31 | frikinz | DammitJim: is your network working in the vm? |
| 19:03.42 | DammitJim | yeah |
| 19:03.49 | DammitJim | I'm pretty sure |
| 19:03.59 | DammitJim | I mean, I'm running other VMs with the same config |
| 19:04.06 | DammitJim | and the network detection worked during the install |
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| 19:05.40 | DammitJim | how can I test this? |
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| 19:06.00 | DammitJim | I've tried at least 6 different US mirrors |
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| 19:06.29 | patriku | buu: just 'cause you have no knowledge about something it doesnt mean that linux is responsible. |
| 19:06.35 | mumpitzel | patriku: cpu acceleration for what? |
| 19:06.40 | mumpitzel | *gpu |
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| 19:07.07 | mumpitzel | DammitJim: jessie installer might not work properly |
| 19:07.15 | DammitJim | dammit |
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| 19:07.24 | DammitJim | what should I use to install jessie, then? |
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| 19:07.33 | mumpitzel | wheezy. then upgrade it |
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| 19:07.38 | mumpitzel | wheezy base install that is |
| 19:07.46 | malajunta | so i have a usb sound interface and a usb logitech headset, is there a way to specify an audio output for each app? |
| 19:07.48 | frikinz | DammitJim: you could change to a vt with altfn something and ping www.debian.org |
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| 19:07.59 | patriku | mumpitzel: it is about movies mostly. |
| 19:08.03 | DammitJim | frikinz, let me see |
| 19:08.07 | wald0 | how is that there's no newer versions (than in wheezy) of chromium (browser) in debian testing or unstable? |
| 19:08.12 | mumpitzel | patriku: nouveau has vaapi support afaik. what videocard do you have? |
| 19:08.27 | DJAnonimo | hello, I'm trying to compile liquidsoap on my debian 4.0 OS |
| 19:08.32 | DJAnonimo | Im getting configure: error: Cannot find ocamlc. |
| 19:08.38 | DammitJim | yep, can ping ftp.debian.net |
| 19:08.38 | malajunta | like use the usb interface for game sound and the headset for communications (mumble) |
| 19:08.43 | patriku | mumpitzel: nvidia nvs 3100M |
| 19:08.48 | DammitJim | I guess jessie's installer is borked |
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| 19:10.48 | DJAnonimo | anyone can help to install liquidsoap? |
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| 19:11.54 | patriku | mumpitzel: i have read nouveau project website about how to get it work. Downloaded and extraccted fw's and so on, but no luck yet. If I may ask you, have you ever got it done sucessfuly ? |
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| 19:12.20 | steven4455 | frikinz, ok, but then this package should be permanently uninstalled with "apt-get autoremove"? |
| 19:12.28 | frikinz | DammitJim: this one is not ok? http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=liquidsoap |
| 19:12.38 | mumpitzel | patriku: don't have a nvidia card anymore, sorry |
| 19:12.54 | patriku | mumpitzel: ok, no problem. ;) |
| 19:12.58 | Sary | wald0: in testing,unstable it's named "chromium". |
| 19:13.01 | DammitJim | frikinz, not sure what you mean |
| 19:13.09 | frikinz | steven4455: it is state uninstalled 'n'. |
| 19:13.09 | buu | I can't cross compile screen =[ |
| 19:13.10 | DammitJim | I'm at the step where one configures the repositories |
| 19:13.12 | buu | This is making me very sad. |
| 19:13.21 | mumpitzel | DammitJim: then just don't config them. you can do it later |
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| 19:13.28 | frikinz | DJAnonimo: this one is not ok? http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=liquidsoap |
| 19:13.34 | wald0 | Sary: yes but the versions seems to be the same than in wheezy |
| 19:13.35 | frikinz | DammitJim: was not for u sorry |
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| 19:13.41 | Sary | DammitJim: Debian 4.0 ! |
| 19:13.42 | wald0 | so i wonder why there's not any updated version in all this time |
| 19:13.52 | frikinz | steven4455: man dpkg-query |
| 19:13.57 | DammitJim | oh ok frikinz |
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| 19:14.22 | DammitJim | Sary, Etch FTW! |
| 19:14.24 | frikinz | buu: which target? |
| 19:14.32 | PDvic | get of my lawn |
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| 19:14.44 | DJAnonimo | frikinz: I was on this website just do not know how to install or download those packages |
| 19:15.33 | mumpitzel | DJAnonimo: debian 4.0 is etch and many years old. are you sure you are running 4.0? what does uname -r say? |
| 19:15.34 | frikinz | DJAnonimo: debian 4.0 OS? AH. Never thought about updating? :) |
| 19:15.44 | mumpitzel | !etch |
| 19:15.44 | dpkg | Etch is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, released on April 8th, 2007. Etch security support ended on 2010-02-15, this release is no longer supported. Etch users should upgrade to Lenny, ask me about <etch->lenny>. Removed from the mirrors (2010-06-20); ask me about <etch sources.list>. For old Etch ISOs, ask me about <etch iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEtch http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100121 |
| 19:16.04 | DJAnonimo | mumpitzel: 2.6.24-etchnhalf.1-686 |
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| 19:16.32 | DJAnonimo | frikinz: no because it's on a remote server and an upgrade failure would result in a tragedy for me |
| 19:16.58 | mumpitzel | DJAnonimo: /msg dpkg etch sources.list will tell you how to get your apt-get working. but you should definitely upgrade to a supported version (first to lenny, then to squeeze). or just reinstall |
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| 19:17.14 | mumpitzel | DJAnonimo: outdated software will result in a tragedy too |
| 19:17.36 | steven4455 | frikinz, ok. So in a nutshell, uninstalled packages, which were previously installed to fulfill some dependency, are listed in "dpkg -l" output as "uninstalled"? |
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| 19:19.03 | Sary | wald0: you mean it's the same version! yeah i've notice this with a few packages like ' icedove',etc. |
| 19:19.46 | mumpitzel | steven4455: unless purged, they show up as "rc", yes |
| 19:20.18 | frikinz | steven4455: installed or now uninstalled packages are listed in /var/lib/dpkg/status. any dependencies of these 2 kinds of package will give you an 'un' package. |
| 19:20.36 | wald0 | Sary: why this happens? why there's not updated of such package which seems like to be very active in development and releases? |
| 19:20.40 | wald0 | well, how to know why ? |
| 19:21.44 | frikinz | steven4455: unless if its installed. well, you get hte point :) |
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| 19:22.44 | frikinz | dpkg -l <pattern> is a little weird |
| 19:22.44 | dpkg | ii <pattern> is a little weird 1.3-1 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 19:24.01 | buu | frikinz: arm |
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| 19:25.29 | frikinz | buu: and what framework do you use? buildroot, scratchbox, crosstool-ng, self made , ..? |
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| 19:26.07 | buu | frikinz: Well, its distributed by a vendor but I think its based on buildroot |
| 19:26.12 | buu | I'm trying again with official buildroot |
| 19:26.24 | buu | But the 'official' screen package refuses to be cross compiled =[ |
| 19:26.29 | buu | It just exits. |
| 19:26.39 | DJAnonimo | if I upgrade from etch to lenny would my applications with after upgrade? |
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| 19:27.59 | peterrooney | DJAnonimo: I doubt it would be easy to find a working lenny repository these days. That "etch" factoid needs some updating, because lenny itself is EOL |
| 19:28.05 | peterrooney | dpkg: lenny |
| 19:28.05 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
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| 19:29.19 | peterrooney | I do not believe debian supports a direct etch->wheezy upgrade, and I would not dare try it on a remote system. |
| 19:30.00 | Sary | wald0: I'm not quite sure, as i use chromium myself .. when this happens i just install it from the beta/dev channel http://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/dev-channel |
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| 19:31.37 | DJAnonimo | huhh, so after an update I would need to update all the softwares Im running on the machine? |
| 19:31.52 | wald0 | Sary: whats the difference between chromium and google-chrome itself? |
| 19:33.35 | jumperswitch | For clarification: What user is used for accessing the log files? |
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| 19:34.01 | jumperswitch | I mean, one could use any user. But what is recommended? Should the standard user (own user) access them? Or using root / sudo? |
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| 19:34.30 | Sary | wald0: to my knowledge, chrome-browser is based on chromium codes https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome |
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| 19:35.46 | frikinz | jumperswitch: being in the adm group? |
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| 19:37.00 | DammitJim | so, there seems to be a problem with how my sources.list is configured |
| 19:37.05 | DammitJim | should it have jessie or testing? |
| 19:37.11 | peterrooney | DJAnonimo: an update is the actual process of updating all the software. And I think I speak for all of us that you would be safer and happier just installing wheezy than trying to create a working lenny repository, upgrading to lenny, then upgrading to squeeze, and finally upgrading to wheezy. |
| 19:37.51 | jhutchins | jumperswitch: Some logs are user readable, but some are root only. |
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| 19:38.34 | petern_ | Some you need to be in the adm group. |
| 19:38.57 | jhutchins | petern_: That's not consistent though. |
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| 19:48.08 | buu | So I'm getting the messasge '/usr/bin/screen: can't load library 'libncurses.so.5'' but I have libncurses stored in the first path listed in $LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 19:48.22 | buu | Sadly I don't have ldd, can anyone suggest a next step in debugging? |
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| 19:51.52 | buu | Hrm, I'm trying with LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 but its giving me the same message |
| 19:52.03 | mumpitzel | and your ncurses is a lib for your current cpu? and it's the full libncurses.so.5 filename? or just libncurses.so? |
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| 19:53.13 | buu | mumpitzel: Yes and yes |
| 19:53.23 | buu | I have the standard .so .so.5 .so.5.9 |
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| 19:59.02 | gynter | Hello, is /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/onepin-opensc-pkcs11.so missing from testing/amd64 for purpose? I really need it :) |
| 19:59.12 | gynter | s/for/on/ |
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| 20:11.36 | Ritzton | Hello |
| 20:12.09 | Ritzton | I am sorry to bother you, I would like to enter to copy mode to be able to screen, but I dont understand how to make |
| 20:12.21 | Ritzton | to be able to scroll* |
| 20:12.34 | Ritzton | I have read "(C-a [, C-a C-[, C-a ESC)" but I dont understand :-/ |
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| 20:13.35 | gynter | ctrl+a+ESC and pgup/pgdn to move |
| 20:13.35 | k-t | C-a [, move around with hjkl, start selecting with 'space', move around, 'space', insert with C-a ] |
| 20:13.48 | jhutchins | Ritzton: Hold the control key and press a then [ |
| 20:14.20 | gynter | ah copy? nvm my tip :) |
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| 20:15.14 | Ritzton | "ctrl+a+ESC" just does not work in putty, it is opening the start button of windows lol |
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| 20:15.41 | gynter | hm k, i downgraded opensc to 0.12.2-3 and put it on hold atm. |
| 20:15.41 | Arrowmaster | yeah ctrl-esc does that |
| 20:15.59 | k-t | try C-a, then esc |
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| 20:16.24 | gynter | you are correct, dont hold ctrl |
| 20:17.09 | Ritzton | yeah ! it works without holding the ctrl ! thank you very much |
| 20:17.15 | Ritzton | fucking windows :-) |
| 20:17.19 | gynter | :) |
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| 20:17.43 | k-t | if they are fucking, don't disturb them :P |
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| 20:18.36 | Ritzton | I wanted to say microsoft instead of windows :-) |
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| 20:19.21 | PDvic | what if steve and bill got married |
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| 20:22.20 | steven4455 | Any ideas why do I see my architecture as "i686" while I have changed it to i386 with setarch: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0a7efe8dc3a02d7bfcfe ? |
| 20:22.35 | DANtheBEASTman | Hi all, I'm trying to install Guitar Pro on to Debian Wheezy. It took me a bit of tinkering, but I managed to do it on a 32 bit live cd, but my install on disk is 64bit. I am sort of mixing releases, pulling a couple packages from testing, (I know I know), and now I'm having trouble installing ia32-libs. I get the whole 'unmet dependenices' message when I apt-get install it |
| 20:22.59 | DANtheBEASTman | > ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-i386 but it is not installable |
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| 20:23.43 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell DANtheBEASTman about multiarch howto |
| 20:24.07 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell DANtheBEASTman about ia32-libs |
| 20:24.36 | gynter | DANtheBEASTman: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
| 20:24.47 | Levitator | wonders if his arch supports beastmode. |
| 20:24.57 | Dark_light | I'm on wheezy in kde and I was doing a transfer with filezilla, I minimized it into the system tray and now it won't show up again |
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| 20:27.01 | Dark_light | I think it crashed since the transfer hasn't even been completed :\ |
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| 20:27.45 | DANtheBEASTman | ah! all it took was dpkg --add-arch && apt-get update. somehow all my googling failed to return any of this info, thank you guys! |
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| 20:32.31 | steven4455 | If I choose my Debian installation language as French, then all my packages are configured with French language as well. However, what happens with the new packages which I install later using apt-get? |
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| 20:33.37 | k-t | steven4455: They normally will be in french, too. |
| 20:34.03 | gynter | unless you change default locale |
| 20:34.28 | DANtheBEASTman | hmmm wait I still can't get multiarch working |
| 20:34.42 | k-t | or there is no translation available |
| 20:35.09 | jhutchins | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:35.54 | steven4455 | k-t, gynter: thanks! But what happens if I change the language locale later from French to US? Then all the programs will remain in French? |
| 20:36.02 | DANtheBEASTman | wheezy, with a select few packages from testing |
| 20:36.31 | gynter | steven4455: depends on the software, but they souldn't |
| 20:36.55 | gynter | you can even try to set the locale something different for your user only to test |
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| 20:41.34 | jhutchins | steven4455: WHat the programs do is rather than have text hard-coded in the application, they make calls to a library that can respond in whatever language is set for that user. |
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| 20:42.13 | tw | How do I make tab completion ignore /usr/bin/mplayer1 and expand mpl<TAB> to "mplayer " instead of stopping before the space? |
| 20:42.15 | jhutchins | steven4455: This lets you have different users with different languages, or even do this: |
| 20:42.21 | jhutchins | !localized errors |
| 20:42.33 | jhutchins | !localixed errors |
| 20:42.45 | jhutchins | !localised errors |
| 20:43.17 | jhutchins | Ok, I'm an idiot, sorry. |
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| 20:44.14 | jhutchins | Actually, dpkg appears to be stuck. |
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| 20:44.51 | jhutchins | steven4455: Anyway, the gist of it is that you can set the language for a single command. |
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| 20:45.47 | dpkg | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install» |
| 20:46.38 | steven4455 | jhutchins, :D |
| 20:46.51 | steven4455 | jhutchins, but thanks for clearing this up! |
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| 20:49.55 | DANtheBEASTman | no seriously, why can't I install multiarch |
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| 20:51.01 | DANtheBEASTman | multiarch-support is installed, ia32-libs won't install. I ran `dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update` but it still says broken packages |
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| 20:51.39 | gnarface | DANtheBEASTman: you want me to guess based on absolutely no other information? you hosed the install by mixing distros |
| 20:51.39 | chomwitt | can i install debian from hard disk (using grub legacy) using an iso image? |
| 20:51.41 | jhutchins | DANtheBEASTman: You have package from two different releases. That's what "broken packages" means. |
| 20:52.34 | DANtheBEASTman | \: |
| 20:53.26 | gnarface | DANtheBEASTman: its a common mistake. unfortunately in many cases it will seem to work fine and only cause problems later while doing something like what you're doing now. |
| 20:53.36 | gnarface | dpkg: tell DANtheBEASTman about backports |
| 20:53.46 | DANtheBEASTman | yep it's been working excellently until this |
| 20:54.02 | gnarface | DANtheBEASTman: you want to backport instead, and this could have been avoided |
| 20:54.03 | DANtheBEASTman | but I wanted apache2.4 and nodejs from testing. |
| 20:54.22 | DANtheBEASTman | so... time for a fresh install I guess? |
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| 20:54.43 | gnarface | they can sometimes be repaired, but yes, its just as likely you'll need to completely reinstall |
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| 20:54.50 | gnarface | check the note dpkg sent you about how to backport |
| 20:54.59 | gnarface | ask it about the things in <brackets?> |
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| 20:55.59 | chomwitt | jhutchins: thanks |
| 20:56.20 | jhutchins | chomwitt: Hope it helps. |
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| 20:58.09 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. I had Skype 4.2 installed and working fine when suddenly, after updating my Wheezy system, there was a problem with libsqlite3-0 in that the symlink pointed to the amd64 version and the update failed because the symlink was already there. |
| 20:58.50 | DANtheBEASTman | okay, so before I give up and reinstall, and considering i've already hosed everything, is there anything else I might try that just might work? is there a way to force ia32-libs to install? |
| 20:59.07 | gnarface | well its no longer called ia32-libs to start with |
| 20:59.08 | Pegasus_RPG | So I removed the i386 version and force-removed the amd64 version (since lots of stuff depends on that) then re-installed it. The adm64 version installed fine but the i386 version still fails |
| 20:59.16 | jhutchins | !tell DANtheBEASTman about partial downgrade |
| 20:59.40 | Pegasus_RPG | DANtheBEASTman: you now have to explicitly install the libs you need, e.g. apt-get install libthing:i386 |
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| 21:00.29 | gnarface | DANtheBEASTman: ia32-libs was the pre-multiarch solution. that's only half your problem though. you might be able to manually remove all the packages assocated with apache2.4 from testing without leaving any residual structural changes that break apt for the current packages but... honestly if that's all you were using this machine for and this is your first time with apt, its probably much faster to reinstall |
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| 21:01.27 | gnarface | DANtheBEASTman: also note that, its *almost* 100% certain that you only *think* you need apache2.4 from testing, and actually are inaccurate about even the "i want" not "i need" parts of that decision |
| 21:02.00 | gnarface | DANtheBEASTman: (wheezy should have patches for anything important backported into 2.2) |
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| 21:02.38 | gnarface | DANtheBEASTman: so, all this drama very likely may have been avoided if you'd just tried it with stable first before jumping to the slash+burn conclusion |
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| 21:03.03 | DANtheBEASTman | how does one get nodejs on stable then? |
| 21:03.36 | gnarface | the right way would be to backport from jessie or sid |
| 21:03.57 | gnarface | earlier dpkg should have told you where to get that info |
| 21:04.04 | gnarface | dpkg: tell DANtheBEASTman about ssb |
| 21:04.10 | gnarface | please read stuff dpkg tells you in this channel |
| 21:04.15 | gnarface | its usually very important |
| 21:04.33 | DANtheBEASTman | I have been, I appreicate your time |
| 21:05.15 | gnarface | DANtheBEASTman: to be clear: when something dpkg tells you has text in angle brackets <like this>, that means you can get more info by repeating that text in brackets back to it |
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| 21:06.01 | gnarface | there is a whole vault of knowledge in there |
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| 21:07.19 | gnarface | DANtheBEASTman: note when you backport you'll have to backport all the dependencies too. if i recall right, nodejs will be a very tedious process (20+ packages?) |
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| 21:10.16 | Maury_ | Hello, I'd like a debian based distribution with security patches like stable but updated often like lubuntu. Mint Debian has packs but every few months. Ideas? |
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| 21:12.00 | gnarface | Maury_: nope |
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| 21:12.40 | gnarface | Maury_: but i'm sure all those projects you just mentioned are always looking for volunteers |
| 21:12.41 | MrFrood | Maury_: you do know about backports? |
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| 21:13.45 | Maury_ | ah, backports yes but the "usewith care" frightens me. |
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| 21:14.47 | jhutchins | Maury_: stable + backports is a lot safer to run than a distro that doesn't test it's packages like debian. |
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| 21:15.19 | Maury_ | ah ok I can only install seledcted packages from backports, good. |
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| 21:15.25 | MrFrood | using antested distribution with little security support scares me more... |
| 21:17.32 | Maury_ | ok I might try that, thank you. |
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| 21:18.41 | steven4455 | When Debian provides option to load USB drivers during the "Detect and mount CD-ROM" step in installation process, then am I correct that my laptop optical drive uses USB bus? |
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| 21:19.57 | jhutchins | Probably not. |
| 21:20.32 | pikaro | hi! my debian 6 VPS is rebooting in a completely random way, and the provider says they can't find anything wrong with it. everything in /var/log seems innocent, apart from the messages about daemons restarting and various unsuccessful bruteforce attempts. curiously, the dmesg and boot logs are empty, though, and neither syslog nor messages mention something about an initiated reboot, just "init: no more processes in this runlevel" when the |
| 21:20.32 | pikaro | machine is up again. are there any utilities that allow me to get more in-depth logs to diagnose the problem? it's my first time working with a remote box and a stable distro, so I'm very unsure what to do. |
| 21:20.50 | jhutchins | steven4455: Only that the installer is praparing to find a USB CD if one exists. |
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| 21:23.35 | jhutchins | pikaro: I doubt the boot log would help, as it sounds like it's booting ok. |
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| 21:24.13 | pikaro | didn't think so, either, I just thought it was strange that it's empty. |
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| 21:24.47 | jhutchins | pikaro: try dmesg | less - bu that gets cleared at reboot |
| 21:24.48 | pikaro | only "last" mentions something about the reboots, no messages about the initiation of a runlevel change elsewhere. |
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| 21:24.58 | pikaro | dmesg is empty as well :\ |
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| 21:25.27 | jhutchins | pikaro: No, not /var/log/dmesg, dmesg | less |
| 21:25.33 | DANtheBEASTman | debating on debootstrapping wheezy or testing, or installing crunchbang, or installing mint debian.. decisions decisions |
| 21:25.43 | pikaro | just as empty. |
| 21:25.55 | bzed | pikaro: did you get it like that from your hosting provider? |
| 21:26.01 | pikaro | yup |
| 21:26.08 | steven4455 | jhutchins, ok. |
| 21:26.12 | steven4455 | jhutchins, thanks! |
| 21:26.39 | bzed | pikaro: sounds like you want to choose a different provider or poke them with a stick to get their stuff fixed. even a vps should not reboot at random times. |
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| 21:27.39 | pikaro | ok, so this behavior indicates that it's not a problem on my side? |
| 21:27.39 | pikaro | or not something that could be fixed by more logs |
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| 21:28.34 | jhutchins | pikaro: If dmesg as root doesn't dump the kernel ring buffer then something is definitely wrong. |
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| 21:28.43 | buu | Does the kernel control the creation of /dev/ptys? |
| 21:29.01 | jhutchins | buu: Not really. |
| 21:29.06 | buu | Er, /dev/tty? |
| 21:29.23 | jhutchins | pikaro: what does uname -a show about the kernel? |
| 21:29.24 | pikaro | hm, it's an openvz machine - maybe I don't have enough access rights to the kernel for dmesg to work? |
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| 21:29.58 | pikaro | jhutchins, Linux mail 2.6.32-042stab081.3 #1 SMP Mon Sep 9 20:07:47 MSK 2013 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 21:30.42 | jhutchins | pikaro: I think I agree with bzed that you need to upgrade your provider. |
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| 21:31.34 | giuscri | Anyone knows where can I find '32-bit developement packages of Xlib/Xfree86'? I'm trying to build *wine* yet the process interrupts with this output: http://paste.debian.net/57599/ |
| 21:32.06 | pikaro | hm, too bad, I just rented this service :\ |
| 21:32.24 | giuscri | I've already tried to install `xlibmesa-gl-dev` and `xlibmesa-glu` |
| 21:33.06 | jhutchins | giuscri: Is this on a 64b system? |
| 21:33.14 | giuscri | jhutchins: yes, it is |
| 21:34.25 | jhutchins | dpkg multiarch |
| 21:34.25 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
| 21:34.38 | pikaro | well then, I'll just try poking them, so far they've been reasonably responsive. maybe I've just had bad luck with this particular setup, otherwise I can call them out on their uptime guarantee and just terminate the service. thanks for helping! |
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| 21:35.51 | jhutchins | pikaro: With openvz it's really up to the provider to provide a stable platform. If a specific applicaiton is crashing, or you've installed something weird that's not their fault, but if the basic system won't stay up it's up to them to fix it. |
| 21:35.59 | frikinz | pikaro: I think we share the same provider. quality has degraded since a year or so |
| 21:36.20 | pikaro | frikinz, chicagovps? |
| 21:36.20 | frikinz | big latency. but never any unexpected reboots |
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| 21:36.42 | pikaro | jhutchins, I'm writing a support ticket right now, I'll just see what comes out of it |
| 21:36.54 | frikinz | pikaro: hum then no. thought about the kernel numbering |
| 21:37.04 | Demolidor | Hello friends, I have problem in my debian, it asks to remove multiple packages and informs them that they are worthless. see http://pastebin.com/jJTCY8EK |
| 21:37.59 | Demolidor | My debian is 7.1 |
| 21:38.36 | frikinz | pikaro: the one I'm on is strato |
| 21:39.06 | frikinz | few missing things in the kernel though |
| 21:39.07 | giuscri | jhutchins: I didn't understood you |
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| 21:40.13 | buu | So uh, assuming I'm compiling a new system/kernel, how do I control how many /dev/pts get created? |
| 21:40.21 | jhutchins | giuscri: You will need to follow the links dpkg provided and /msg dpkg <factoid> for the things in <brackets>.. |
| 21:40.53 | jhutchins | buu: Not controlled there. |
| 21:41.01 | buu | What does control it then? |
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| 21:41.43 | jhutchins | giuscri: It used to be controlled by init, in /etc/inittab. Newer systems have info there on where to look. |
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| 21:42.05 | jhutchins | buu: ^^ |
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| 21:42.25 | jhutchins | buu: As of squeeze it was still inittab. |
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| 21:44.05 | buu | jhutchins: All I see is ttyS0::respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 115200 vt100 # GENERIC_SERIAL |
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| 21:44.58 | pikaro | frikinz, so strato isn't recommendable either? |
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| 21:45.42 | buu | jhutchins: Does that somehow create a pts/0? |
| 21:46.03 | anoob | i have a radeon hd 6400/7400M ... i want to use the open source driver ... which driver should i use ? |
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| 21:46.55 | buu | Oh wait, that was the wrong file |
| 21:47.31 | frikinz | pikaro: quality decreased, as I said some kernel latency, probably too many people on the same hw. for the rest, its stable and well updated |
| 21:47.37 | jhutchins | buu: That would spawn a tty on the serial port. |
| 21:48.05 | pikaro | ok thanks :] |
| 21:48.18 | jhutchins | buu: I'm afraid I don't have anything newer than squeeze at hand today. |
| 21:48.21 | buu | jhutchins: I was looking on the wrong system, on the actual system I don't even have an /etc/inittab |
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| 21:49.14 | d3xter | hey guys |
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| 21:49.33 | d3xter | i've created a shared virtio-folder in kvm/qemu, but cant write to it in the guest. any hints? |
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| 21:50.32 | Sary | anoob: # radeon https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 21:50.48 | buu | jhutchins: I do have a /dev/ptmx though.. |
| 21:50.54 | frikinz | buu: mkdir /dev/pts ; mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts |
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| 21:54.09 | jhutchins | frikinz: He's looking for what configures the number of consoles on newer systems that no longer use inittab. |
| 21:54.10 | anoob | Sary, thanks. blank screen with https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo#Editing_.2Fetc.2FX11.2Fxorg.conf |
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| 21:55.10 | buu | jhutchins: wiki seems to imply they're created on demand by /dev/ptmx |
| 21:55.11 | anoob | black screen i meant * |
| 21:55.20 | buu | frikinz: I already have a /dev/pts mounted |
| 21:55.32 | buu | But when I run screen I get Must be connected to a terminal. |
| 21:55.32 | NotJimCarrey | is there any way to find out what was uninstalled during an apt-get upgrade? |
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| 21:55.59 | nvteighen | NotJimCarrey: look at the logs? |
| 21:56.03 | NotJimCarrey | doh |
| 21:56.13 | frikinz | I think its on demand yes |
| 21:56.22 | buu | frikinz: So why would screen be complaining? |
| 21:56.35 | buu | and |
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| 21:56.51 | d3xter | i've created a shared virtio-folder in kvm/qemu, but cant write to it in the guest. any hints? |
| 21:57.31 | Sary | anoob: have you removed/purged the the fglrx driver! # lsmod |grep fglrx |
| 21:57.43 | anoob | yes Sary |
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| 21:58.14 | Sary | anoob: and is radeon loadded and in use! # lshw -C video |
| 21:58.22 | NotJimCarrey | figures, got cut off in the log |
| 21:58.31 | frikinz | buu: tty -s || echo "not a tty" |
| 21:58.44 | Sary | anoob: and lsmod | grep radeon . |
| 21:58.46 | anoob | Sary, i'll reboot my laptop and try these commands again |
| 21:59.13 | buu | frikinz: Well, its not a tty |
| 21:59.41 | Sary | anoob: before you reboot , make sure fglrx is out # sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx* |
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| 22:01.17 | frikinz | buu: and if you do again manually: getty tty |
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| 22:03.15 | anoob | Sary, "lsmod |grep fglrx" returns nothing ... "aptitude search ~i | grep fglrx" returns nothing too ... |
| 22:03.51 | anoob | "lsmod | grep radeon" does return a "radeon" line ... |
| 22:06.37 | jhutchins | !radeon |
| 22:06.38 | dpkg | Radeon is a brand of graphic processing units by AMD/ATI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon). The radeon open source display driver is packaged for Debian as xserver-xorg-video-radeon, optionally install libgl1-mesa-dri for 3D acceleration. Also ask me about <radeon firmware>, <radeon audio>. http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo http://x.org/wiki/radeon #radeon on irc.freenode.net. For the proprietary driver, see <fglrx>. |
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| 22:07.27 | anoob | Sary, it just works without a xorg.conf file ... so, i'm unable to add those options that will improve 3d ... |
| 22:07.28 | buu | frikinz: asks for a BAUD_RATE.. |
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| 22:08.01 | buu | frikinz: If I pass it 9600 I get setsid: Operation not permitted |
| 22:08.05 | buu | Which is.. interesting |
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| 22:09.44 | Sary | anoob: no need to tweak xorg.conf # see https://wiki.debian.org/Mesa#Testingperformance |
| 22:09.51 | NotJimCarrey | any hostapd gurus on? |
| 22:09.57 | NotJimCarrey | getting "deauthenticated due to local deauth request" |
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| 22:10.01 | anoob | Sary, i'll take a look... thanks! |
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| 22:11.26 | Sary | anoob: you'll need the libgl1-mesa-dri libraries in order to utilize the card's 3D capabilities , and then do the performance test. |
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| 22:12.18 | anoob | Sary, it's already installed. i'll execute the tests now |
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| 22:13.44 | frikinz | buu: maybe you need to tweak your /proc/cmdline , console parameter. on a PI I have console=ttyAMA0,115200 |
| 22:13.47 | anoob | 60fps Sary :) |
| 22:14.15 | frikinz | NotJimCarrey: do you have network manager or wicd running? |
| 22:14.22 | NotJimCarrey | no |
| 22:14.25 | NotJimCarrey | connman |
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| 22:14.41 | JavaSodomy | I'm trying to install the Oracle JVM. |
| 22:14.45 | buu | frikinz: what is AMA0? |
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| 22:14.54 | frikinz | buu: no idea :) |
| 22:15.06 | Sary | anoob: :) |
| 22:15.09 | buu | heh |
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| 22:15.22 | anoob | Sary, i don't know why but it's better now than with fglrx ... |
| 22:15.31 | frikinz | buu: crw-rw---- 1 root tty 204, 64 oct. 13 00:01 /dev/ttyAMA0 |
| 22:15.33 | anoob | weird Sary ... |
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| 22:15.38 | halt | Hi all, i try to share with samba, one of my drive which is mounted with sshfs, did anyone did something like that before ? |
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| 22:16.17 | frikinz | buu: specific to this kernel/board.. |
| 22:16.25 | NotJimCarrey | frikinz: if i comment out the wpa lines in hostapd.conf, i can't pull an IP, I just get authenticated, associated, starting accounting session |
| 22:16.58 | frikinz | NotJimCarrey: you mean clients don't get an IP from your AP running hostap? |
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| 22:17.10 | NotJimCarrey | correct |
| 22:17.22 | frikinz | NotJimCarrey: and you do run a dhcp server? |
| 22:17.42 | jhutchins | !hostapd |
| 22:17.42 | dpkg | hostapd is a user-space IEEE 802.11 access point (AP) and IEEE 802.11X/WPA/WPA2/EAP authenticator. Any mac80211 driver providing AP functionality is supported by hostapd's nl80211 (netlink) driver. See /usr/share/doc/hostapd/README.Debian for program invocation and driver version/firmware notes. See also http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd . http://w1.fi/hostapd/ |
| 22:17.46 | musca | !tell JavaSodomy about java-package |
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| 22:18.00 | JavaSodomy | I want to give Mark Shuttleworth a free colonoscopy. |
| 22:18.02 | frikinz | NotJimCarrey: you can try dnsmasq |
| 22:18.31 | NotJimCarrey | frikinz: thanks, that may have been it |
| 22:18.32 | frikinz | NotJimCarrey: dhcp, dns relay and cache |
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| 22:19.15 | frikinz | ok. I'm off to bed |
| 22:19.15 | NotJimCarrey | annnd, of course something's on port 53 already |
| 22:19.22 | NotJimCarrey | thanks again frikinz |
| 22:19.34 | anoob | thank you very much Sary |
| 22:19.36 | frikinz | then remove whats on port 53 :) |
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| 22:19.47 | NotJimCarrey | lol, trying to find out what it is |
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| 22:22.14 | buu | I WIN |
| 22:22.22 | buu | frikinz: I got it working! |
| 22:22.34 | dvs | !win buu |
| 22:22.35 | dpkg | Congratulations, buu! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 22:23.04 | buu | I didn't realize that mount --bind /x/ /foo/bar; wouldn't also bind /x/y to /foo/bar/y |
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| 22:24.18 | a1fa | anyone running 6.0.7 here? need md5sum of the netstat |
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| 22:25.00 | a1fa | d25fafb6640a4a0d56bc8975af04966d /bin/netstat |
| 22:25.00 | oktr | hi my system always reboot after two days and i can find in the syslog mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) |
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| 22:25.01 | oktr | Oct 14 18:55:10 debian kernel: [ 7.199979] input: Power Button as |
| 22:25.06 | a1fa | koollman : thanks.. matches mine |
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| 22:25.26 | a1fa | anything else to check? |
| 22:25.34 | a1fa | this server had one of the older joomlas i took down |
| 22:25.53 | oktr | how can i stop the rebooting and checking the HD ,as i set FSCKFIX=no |
| 22:25.53 | oktr | ~ |
| 22:26.05 | oktr | in /etc/defaults/rcS |
| 22:26.46 | oktr | please advise |
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| 22:42.18 | oktr | hi my system always reboot after two days and i can find in the syslog mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) Oct 14 18:55:10 debian kernel: [ 7.199979] input: Power Button as how can i stop the rebooting and checking the HD ,as i set FSCKFIX=no |
| 22:44.52 | trebor_home | hi. still trying to hide magic-cookies in debian7/gdm3. i tried xauth nextract <hidden-place> :0; xauth remove :0 ... but still programs using x11 can be started. what do i have to do to stop any further programs to be able to connect to x-server? |
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| 22:46.25 | yeik | Is anybody here really handy with dpkg and tracking down package problems? |
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| 22:47.10 | abrotman | yeik: lots of people, we'd need to see pastebin of the problem |
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| 22:47.58 | PDvic | can you paste screen shots? |
| 22:47.58 | Sary | oktr: are you able to boot into recovery mode, and set 'fsckfix=yes'! |
| 22:48.25 | yeik | http://pastebin.com/X7KW8v7w |
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| 22:48.59 | abrotman | yeik: you're in the wrong channel, ask #ubuntu |
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| 22:49.49 | yeik | abrotman, I know I am using ubuntu, nobody there has been able to help, i figured dpkg is the same between debian and ubuntu |
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| 22:50.37 | PDvic | debian kernel is too old |
| 22:51.30 | PDvic | uname --r |
| 22:51.32 | PDvic | 3.9.11 |
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| 22:52.20 | abrotman | yeik: please use #ubuntu, thank you |
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| 22:54.40 | PDvic_ | wtf |
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| 22:55.04 | PDvic_ | mad network |
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| 23:23.22 | oktr | Sary yes i can,but i dont want that ,this server is ruuning a voip application ,how can i fix it , as setting fsckfix=no does it make this check and reboot moreover i comment it now |
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| 23:28.15 | MrMonkey31 | I've been playing around with Synaptic, and have this question: is it ok from a general stability standpoint to pick anything at all to install or uninstall from my system, as long as it comes from the stable source repository? |
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| 23:29.06 | zenlunatic | MrMonkey31: i wouldnt recommend multple desktop environments, but thats just a preference. |
| 23:29.44 | MrMonkey31 | and as an appendix to that question, can I undo a "broken package" state by uninstaling some thing(s), (in general, for package %xyz, if you understand me) |
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| 23:30.14 | zenlunatic | why don't you just use a VM |
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| 23:45.08 | Sary | oktr: you mentioned that you get random reboots, is that a a personal preference you've set on the kernel event! and setting 'fsckfix' during boot to repair filesystems is for a reason! isn it? |
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| 23:46.48 | BitPuffin | Hey guys |
| 23:46.53 | BitPuffin | I am having trouble installing debian |
| 23:46.58 | Sary | hi |
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| 23:47.12 | MrMonkey31 | so I guess I'm going to stand reassured for now. will prolly go and read a little more on why/how broken packages can ambush me |
| 23:47.13 | BitPuffin | When it comes to the step where it installs grub to the MBR it fails |
| 23:47.23 | BitPuffin | I tried both graphical install and text install |
| 23:48.07 | TonyL | , |
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| 23:48.18 | zenlunatic | MrMonkey31: shit should break if you just read the prompts |
| 23:48.28 | zenlunatic | MrMonkey31: shouldnt rather |
| 23:48.42 | reavengrey | what is truly in a man's heart... |
| 23:50.04 | MrMonkey31 | zenlunatic: yeah, I was hoping to hear as much =) |
| 23:51.43 | Sary | BitPuffin: looks like the installation has not finished correctly,have you md5sum check the iso! and which image is it!? |
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| 23:54.01 | BitPuffin | Sary: Well I found something that might solve it in the errata, it has to do with the fact that I have multiple hard drives to choose from! It is the netboot install for small CDs |
| 23:54.13 | buu | So uh, anyone have a guess as to why wget google.com would try ipv6: Connecting to google.com ([2607:f8b0:4000:803::1001]:80) |
| 23:54.18 | BitPuffin | Sary: I verified disk integrity in the installer but I didn't md5 check it manually |
| 23:54.20 | buu | And how to switch back to ipv4? |
| 23:54.21 | BitPuffin | but it should work |
| 23:54.35 | BitPuffin | the burner verified too at least |
| 23:55.07 | Sary | BitPuffin: correct, i was about to post you the link http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata , good luck. |
| 23:55.08 | abrotman | buu: you have an ipv6 address |
| 23:55.20 | BitPuffin | well it didn't help :/ |
| 23:55.36 | Sary | md5sum check then.. |
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| 23:56.06 | Sary | what media you'll be using, and which image! |
| 23:56.09 | peterS | is it a local issue in my environment that 'git diff' spews ANSI codes and thus is unreadable? The workaround is simple enough, export GIT_PAGER='less -r', but I'm wondering if this is _every_ Debian user's experience with recent git, or just something odd in my environment |
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| 23:56.29 | BitPuffin | Sary: Could it be the fact that I have a separate /boot partition? |
| 23:56.57 | BitPuffin | Sary: CD http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst amd64 |
| 23:58.25 | Sary | BitPuffin: i doubt that. |
| 23:59.44 | BitPuffin | okay I ran md5sum /dev/cdrom |
| 23:59.59 | BitPuffin | but I don't see any link to md5sums on that page |