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| 00:02.07 | Sary | BitPuffin: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/#netinst-stable |
| 00:03.25 | BitPuffin | Sary: don't see any md5 on that page either |
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| 00:06.07 | Sary | BitPuffin: true, hold on .. |
| 00:07.00 | Sary | BitPuffin: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 00:09.00 | BitPuffin | Sary: It looks the same |
| 00:09.23 | Sary | BitPuffin: the hashes! |
| 00:09.36 | BitPuffin | And even if a bit was wrong the md5 sum should differ vastly so it's pretty safe to assume it is right by looking at 60-70% |
| 00:09.58 | BitPuffin | Sary: Yeah I mean the output of md5sum /dev/cdrom is the same as the hash on the server there |
| 00:10.41 | Sary | then, which media you're using .. CD! |
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| 00:10.54 | BitPuffin | should I just finish the install and use recovery to chroot and do grub-install /dev/sda ? |
| 00:10.58 | BitPuffin | Sary: What about the CD! |
| 00:11.01 | BitPuffin | ? |
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| 00:11.26 | Sary | BitPuffin: yeah that would do it as well. |
| 00:11.45 | BitPuffin | Sary: As well? I have other options? |
| 00:11.53 | Sary | I meant which media you have the bootable image on. |
| 00:12.37 | Sary | BitPuffin: weel, the first option would be having a bootable media. |
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| 00:13.58 | Sary | BitPuffin: are you installing over ethernet or wifi. |
| 00:16.28 | BitPuffin | Sary: ethernet |
| 00:16.37 | BitPuffin | Well I can't use a USB drive for installation |
| 00:16.47 | BitPuffin | not on that computer at least |
| 00:17.03 | BitPuffin | chroot /dev/sda7 tells me it is not a dir |
| 00:17.05 | BitPuffin | what |
| 00:17.25 | BitPuffin | remembers the days when installing debian was a trivial task |
| 00:17.32 | dvs | BitPuffin: looks like a device node to me. |
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| 00:18.03 | Sary | BitPuffin: 2 HD! |
| 00:18.57 | Sary | BitPuffin: do you recall when exactly does that installation fails, is it at the point of installing apt! |
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| 00:20.14 | BitPuffin | Sary: no it at the point where I am installing grub |
| 00:20.34 | pixmin | hi, when doing a dist-upgrade, and there are grave and serious bugs, is there an option to install all BUT those buggy packages? |
| 00:20.35 | BitPuffin | and now when doing grub-install /dev/sda in the rescue it tells me that sector 32 is used by FlexNet |
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| 00:22.34 | BitPuffin | what the hell is flexnet and why are they in my 32nd sector xD |
| 00:22.42 | sgosnell | Anybody have experience running Sid on a Samsung ARM chromebook? I'm having problems. |
| 00:22.57 | dvs | thinks it's stuxnet's brother |
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| 00:23.58 | Sary | BitPuffin: looks like something coming from MS windows! |
| 00:24.01 | BitPuffin | Due to the way the Digital rights management (DRM) works in FlexNet Publisher, FlexNet affects bootloaders; this makes FlexNet Publisher incompatible with drives encrypted with TrueCrypt[4] and renders Linux-based systems unable to boot |
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| 00:24.04 | BitPuffin | sweet |
| 00:24.07 | BitPuffin | Sary: probably |
| 00:24.17 | BitPuffin | Sary: But I've been dual booting with windows for ages |
| 00:24.22 | icesword | hello is there debian chinese channel? |
| 00:24.31 | SPF | !cn |
| 00:24.31 | dpkg | 如果您想要得到中文的協助，請加入伺服器上的 #debian-zh (irc.oftc.net) 頻道，加入方法為在輸入框中輸入 "/server irc.oftc.net" 和 "/join #debian-zh" (不要加引號)，謝謝您的合作! |
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| 00:25.46 | icesword | why its oftc? |
| 00:25.49 | BitPuffin | http://pissedoffadmins.com/general/usrsbingrub2-bios-setup-warning-sector-32-is-already-in-use-by-the-program-flexnet-avoiding-it-this-software-may-cause-boot-or-other-problems-in-future-please-ask-its-authors-not-to-store.html |
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| 00:27.22 | SPF | icesword: I don't know, why don't you ask in there? |
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| 00:29.34 | mrproper | I am setting up my Debian system as a PXE server and it isn't showing the menu when booting via PXE. Any ideas? |
| 00:29.34 | icesword | theres #debian-zh on freenode, ASA i joined, i was kicked, said invite only… |
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| 00:30.20 | themill | icesword: that would be because the channel is on oftc |
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| 00:31.46 | icesword | okay |
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| 00:32.33 | commie | can i ask4support here? |
| 00:33.04 | dvs | !ask |
| 00:33.04 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 00:33.05 | commie | what's up? apt-get is giving me a funny error (/var/cache/apt/archives/squid-prefetch_1.1-3_all.deb: subprocess new pre-removal script returned error exit status 1). how do i fix this so i can apt-get remove the offending pkg? |
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| 00:33.23 | BitPuffin | awshit |
| 00:33.27 | BitPuffin | let's hope it worked |
| 00:33.35 | BitPuffin | because I stored my mbr backup in tmp |
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| 00:34.45 | BitPuffin | crap |
| 00:36.35 | BitPuffin | oh well I guess it could have been that I forgot grub-update |
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| 00:36.41 | BitPuffin | But now I'm already redoing the install |
| 00:36.44 | BitPuffin | so whatever |
| 00:36.51 | BitPuffin | hopefully it can still see my partitions xD |
| 00:36.56 | commie | i guess i should mention... i'm using 'buntu |
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| 00:37.06 | abrotman | commie: then please use #ubuntu |
| 00:37.16 | BitPuffin | yeah you communist |
| 00:37.22 | BitPuffin | (kidding) |
| 00:37.26 | commie | yea. i did. they didn't seem knowledgable |
| 00:37.47 | sgosnell | Did you try apt-get -f install? |
| 00:38.10 | commie | yes. that reinstalls squid, but... i am trying to get rid of squid and *-prefetch |
| 00:38.23 | commie | (remove squid entirely) |
| 00:38.42 | BitPuffin | what the hell could have installed that flexnet crap, I have never ever seen that before |
| 00:38.48 | BitPuffin | this computer is like 4-5 years old |
| 00:38.49 | reavengrey | Maybe, apt-get install --reinstall |
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| 00:38.53 | sgosnell | So did you try apt-get -f purge squid? |
| 00:38.55 | BitPuffin | and I've even run debian multiple times |
| 00:39.03 | reavengrey | So that it reinstalled the package and "repairs" it first |
| 00:39.09 | reavengrey | then you can prolly get a clean remove |
| 00:39.26 | commie | reavengrey, reinstalled both pkgs. purged both. always errors processing prefetch |
| 00:39.32 | reavengrey | Ah, kk |
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| 00:40.27 | commie | if i dpkg -L squid-prefetch and just rm all of those... can i just set the pkg as uninstalled in apt somehow? |
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| 00:41.15 | themill | commie: please ask #ubuntu about ubuntu packages. You'll need to show them the entire output from apt. |
| 00:41.22 | reavengrey | Seems plausible |
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| 00:41.35 | abrotman | reavengrey: you can help him in #ubuntu |
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| 00:41.52 | commie | i'm more asking for apt-hacks than support w/the package... but i will keep it over there. sorry. |
| 00:42.04 | themill | commie: your apt still comes from ubuntu. |
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| 00:42.22 | abrotman | commie: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu support, this is not a general dpkg/apt channel |
| 00:43.16 | reavengrey | would coax channel members to consider the fact that when you need help with some problem or other, you're grateful when someone helps, even from an unconventional source |
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| 00:43.53 | reavengrey | And the question isn't terribly off, imho, but, up to the mods |
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| 00:45.18 | themill | reavengrey: It's incredibly frustrating to spend a lot of time debugging a problem that (a) doesn't exist in the debian package (b) is well known in whatever derivative that the user actually has and (c) workaround are well known by that derivative's support channel. It makes no sense for us to reinvent the wheel |
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| 00:46.54 | abrotman | reavengrey: as said, you're welcome to help him in #ubuntu |
| 00:47.05 | rryoumaa | should this be being upgraded? http://sprunge.us/cEHW |
| 00:48.11 | rryoumaa | yet dist-upgrade does offer to upgrade it, for some reason |
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| 00:48.45 | abrotman | rryoumaa: it seems to be a security patch .. seems to make sense |
| 00:49.04 | rryoumaa | yeah, but safe-upgrade says "No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used." |
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| 00:51.40 | rryoumaa | wonders why he would /not/ want the security update |
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| 00:52.24 | sross | so, have a system that was squeeze, and I've gone through a dist-upgrade |
| 00:52.35 | sross | I think some stuff is broken, suggestions to look for problems? |
| 00:52.48 | sross | get errors re: repo's when running synaptic |
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| 00:53.09 | paulfm | Hello all |
| 00:53.24 | sross | hi paulfm |
| 00:53.35 | paulfm | sross: Howdy |
| 00:54.07 | paulfm | I have a problem, how do I tell avconv to ignore video streams and only process audio stream? |
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| 00:55.01 | paulfm | uhmm… ok… embarrassing… just seen something right at the top of the docs |
| 00:55.13 | paulfm | …10 lashes for me |
| 00:55.32 | Janos | hello, question, does anyone knows if there is something equivalent to xen-create-image from the xen-tools package in the libvirt stack ? |
| 00:55.46 | LtL | dpkg: tell sross about soures.list |
| 00:55.54 | LtL | dpkg: tell sross about sources.list |
| 00:56.07 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sross about wheezy sources.list |
| 00:56.44 | LtL | sross: I suspect it's a simple fix required in your /etc/apt/sources.list. read the message from dpkg. |
| 00:57.14 | LtL | abrotman: thanks, figured it was standard 'wheezy.' |
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| 00:57.59 | sross | thanks LtL and abrotman |
| 00:58.03 | sross | dpkg++ |
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| 00:59.39 | abrotman | i never get kharma! |
| 01:00.01 | dvs | I didn't like Karma and Greg either |
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| 01:04.50 | paulfm | ok weird.. just putting this out there in case anyone cares… if a mp3 has ID3 cover art… avconv thinks the file has an embedded video stream. |
| 01:05.06 | paulfm | Remove the cover art tag… and now it just sees the audio stream. |
| 01:05.14 | paulfm | good to know. |
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| 01:05.50 | sross | q: if I'm also using "contrib" and "non-free" in my previous squeeze install is there a reason I shouldn't add that to my wheezy config? |
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| 01:06.07 | abrotman | sross: you probably should, yes |
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| 01:07.15 | sross | thx abrotman |
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| 01:12.33 | sross | so, Debian has been great @ home, but I have some old laptops that I'm giving away...when I tried Ubuntu 12 on them they had weird issues, especially w/ WiFi |
| 01:13.10 | sross | suggestions for a distro to put on these old Dell D600's to hand off to someone that doesn't have linux experience? |
| 01:13.37 | sross | i'm at least comfortable around Debian (was my first real distro), but I'm an IT guy |
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| 01:14.01 | trem0r | Chunk ubuntu on them |
| 01:14.12 | trem0r | Very user friendly |
| 01:14.14 | trem0r | newb friendly |
| 01:14.15 | dvs | Chuck? |
| 01:14.27 | trem0r | nah chunk |
| 01:14.49 | trem0r | lol |
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| 01:25.53 | labatesa | Hi, how to solve this error of package grub-pc is this: Errors were encountered while processing: grub-pc E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 01:26.08 | BitPuffin | +oh come on |
| 01:26.13 | BitPuffin | what the hell debian |
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| 01:26.23 | BitPuffin | update-grub found Haiku and Windows |
| 01:26.26 | BitPuffin | ....but not debian |
| 01:26.42 | abrotman | kernel install? |
| 01:26.43 | labatesa | i use update-grub, but this error continue |
| 01:26.43 | Janos | sross, lot of options available, and debian is one of them, default install + apt-get install gnome and you should be good to go |
| 01:26.45 | abrotman | erm .. fial? |
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| 01:26.57 | mpu | Hi, how do I get the good old fixed font? (distributed with X11 I think) |
| 01:27.12 | labatesa | Hi, how to solve this error of package grub-pc is this: Errors were encountered while processing: grub-pc E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 01:27.16 | labatesa | ? |
| 01:27.35 | BitPuffin | does /boot have to be mounted while doing update-grub or what? |
| 01:27.39 | BitPuffin | That would be really weird |
| 01:27.51 | BitPuffin | because windows and haiku sure weren't mounted |
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| 01:29.28 | BitPuffin | I don't know, maybe I should try redoing the installation with text install but I dunno |
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| 01:32.58 | umarzuki | labatesa: what did you do before grub-pc ? |
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| 01:33.41 | labatesa | umarzuki: this pack have been updagra for apt-get upgrade |
| 01:34.18 | labatesa | when i run apt-get upgrade have this error |
| 01:35.24 | labatesa | i afraid reboot this system |
| 01:37.16 | umarzuki | labatesa: if you have backup (block level) & tested working... |
| 01:39.42 | labatesa | ahh |
| 01:39.49 | labatesa | this is bug of wheezy |
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| 01:40.14 | woshty | why does sha256 take longer than sha512? |
| 01:40.14 | umarzuki | labatesa: how did you know? |
| 01:40.42 | labatesa | some users of foruns |
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| 01:43.08 | labatesa | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=104229 |
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| 01:43.20 | hamn | hey guys |
| 01:43.35 | hamn | how many version back from the latest do you all support in this channel? |
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| 01:44.15 | dvs | hamn: Only the last version for a year. |
| 01:45.47 | jelly-home | hamn: the channel is best-effort, you're welcome to ask questions about some older release but there's no guarantee of an answer in any case |
| 01:46.08 | hamn | how often are versions released? |
| 01:46.23 | jelly-home | hamn: read /msg dpkg release history |
| 01:46.45 | labatesa | apt-get purge grub-common && apt-get install grub-pc and apt-get install grub and update-grub is this soluction, but not reboot for test |
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| 01:49.08 | aznblur | i had a fresh install of debian including the graphical interface, I set up a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces and used ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0. It gets the IP address I assigned it, but I can't ping anything from that machine while I can ping that machine from another machine |
| 01:49.09 | aznblur | what gives? |
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| 01:49.47 | aznblur | network manager reports that eth0 is currentll unmanaged which I believe is correct |
| 01:49.51 | dvs | gateway? |
| 01:50.07 | aznblur | my gateway is correct |
| 01:50.20 | dvs | then try traceroute |
| 01:50.30 | aznblur | at times it will be able to ping things, but right now it can't |
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| 01:51.42 | aznblur | note that i had assigned a static ip before and it was all working perfectly fine, but i changed the static ip, and used the ifdown/ifup |
| 01:51.48 | aznblur | and then that's when the problems started |
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| 01:54.03 | aznblur | i'm able to traceroute to say google.com, but it takes a very long time |
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| 01:56.51 | aznblur | it seems like it's dropping a LOT of packets |
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| 01:57.53 | hamn | how does debian compare to ubuntu in terms of ease-of-use? |
| 01:58.17 | hamn | i want an OS that just works so i can focus on using the computer for work rather than maintaining it |
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| 01:58.21 | johnfg_ | themill: Just got a notice from hplip update that a newer version is available. How do I check to see if it's updated in sid? |
| 01:59.29 | dvs | ,v hplip |
| 01:59.31 | judd | Package: hplip on i386 -- squeeze: 3.10.6-2+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.12.6-3.1; jessie: 3.13.4-1+b1; sid: 3.13.9-2 |
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| 02:00.21 | mpu | does anybody use the misc-fixed font here? |
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| 02:01.38 | johnfg | dvs: Thanks! That's older, I guess the 3.13.10 is just out. |
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| 02:03.32 | aznblur | i've been pinging another computer on the network for 5 minutes and it resulted in 64% packet loss. |
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| 02:06.54 | abrotman | fun! |
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| 02:07.10 | dvs | hides the scisors |
| 02:07.13 | sankey | how can i install debian on a non-pae computer? |
| 02:07.36 | abrotman | use the i386 installer |
| 02:08.04 | Sary | hamn: Debian is easy to use ,and the installer is straightforward, for 2nd part go with stable 'wheezy'. |
| 02:08.31 | Th0masR0ss | pulls dvs's computer plug |
| 02:08.50 | hamn | ok thx |
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| 02:09.29 | sankey | abrotman: oh, my thinkpad t40 won't boot it (debian 7 live i386). opensuse boots fine and installs |
| 02:09.44 | abrotman | use the regular installer |
| 02:09.48 | sankey | ah |
| 02:09.51 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sankey about netinst |
| 02:10.13 | jelly-home | sankey: the installer and live image are two different things |
| 02:10.23 | BitPuffin | come on |
| 02:10.25 | sankey | okay thanks |
| 02:10.38 | BitPuffin | Not even the text install succeeded in installing grub |
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| 02:15.06 | ckuehl | if I have a firmware file (bcm43xx-0.fw) for my wireless card, can I load it without restarting? i've put it in /lib/firmware/ but can't figure out how to load it. i'm using the livecd. |
| 02:15.34 | abrotman | unload/reload driver |
| 02:16.05 | ckuehl | i don't think it's loaded? it's not included with debian by default so I had to copy it over via usb stick |
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| 02:17.22 | little-tommy | wow, following sid, check out the depend if you apt-get install gdm3. Crazyyyyy. |
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| 02:17.32 | reavengr1y | dat sh*t cray |
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| 02:20.16 | Sary | BitPuffin: have you fond how to flashout that fluxnet signature of sector 32 yet! |
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| 02:22.44 | BitPuffin | Sary: yup, I did that |
| 02:22.49 | BitPuffin | Sary: still get the same result |
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| 02:23.46 | Sary | ckuehl: you reload it with ' modprobe '. |
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| 02:24.54 | SamSagaZ | hi guys, i want to build an low consumption server to run nfs/samba fetchmail and apache for local development, can someone please recommend me some mother/micro for this? i have an 2500K CPU that i can use, but of course will be not low consuption one :) |
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| 02:25.31 | Sary | BitPuffin: so you don't see that signature anymore,but still GRUB fails! |
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| 02:25.57 | reavengr1y | raspverry pi or beagleboard/pandaboard |
| 02:26.01 | BitPuffin | Sary: Well after doing that I could do grub-install in rescue mode, but doing update-grub only detected haiku and windows but not debian |
| 02:26.05 | reavengr1y | technically they meet your requirements |
| 02:26.19 | reavengr1y | low consumption, debian supported |
| 02:26.35 | SamSagaZ | ok, will google that |
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| 02:26.50 | reavengr1y | They are ARM mini-chipsets |
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| 02:26.56 | reavengr1y | Idk if you want ARM |
| 02:27.01 | reavengr1y | up to you of course |
| 02:27.12 | SamSagaZ | i just want anything that let me run that kind of stuff |
| 02:27.20 | BenNZ | im not sure why but im using about twice the ram as usual 450mb ram in debian testing xfce , with only xchat , mousepad , terminal open , would anyone know what might be causing this , my ps -aux http://paste.debian.net/57685/ , i cant see any one process thats using alot of ram |
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| 02:27.39 | BitPuffin | Debian is even more difficult to install than arch for me lol, can't believe that :( |
| 02:27.50 | BitPuffin | or even more difficult than crux |
| 02:28.04 | jordanm | BenNZ: run top and press shift+m |
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| 02:30.10 | Sary | BitPuffin: what's your partition setup on the installation! |
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| 02:30.19 | BenNZ | jordanm: highest in xorg at 7.6 |
| 02:31.41 | BitPuffin | Sary: I have a /boot, swap, /, and /home |
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| 02:32.27 | Helpppppp | hi, help, i'm im live cd, i need recover grub |
| 02:32.36 | Helpppppp | i'm im linux mint live cd |
| 02:32.43 | Helpppppp | try recovery debian wheezy |
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| 02:34.23 | Helpppppp | anyone? |
| 02:34.31 | Helpppppp | i use lvm encryped |
| 02:35.05 | BitPuffin | Hmm |
| 02:35.10 | BitPuffin | When picking kernel |
| 02:35.25 | BitPuffin | should I select linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 or linux-image-amd64 |
| 02:35.44 | dvs | linux-image-amd64 |
| 02:35.54 | jordanm | the later will always pull in the newest kernel |
| 02:36.27 | Helpppppp | kernel 32 |
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| 02:40.13 | SamSagaZ | main problem with raspverry pi or beagleboard/pandaboard is that i want to attach 5-6 SATA Devices :/ |
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| 02:43.08 | johnfg | Something overwrote my grub.cfg. |
| 02:43.33 | dvs | johnfg: yeah, update-grub did |
| 02:43.38 | johnfg | Now, when I run update-grub, it's apparently not seeing squeeze on /dev/sda. |
| 02:44.04 | johnfg | dvs: Not by me, when it first was changed. |
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| 02:44.13 | johnfg | I'm running this from wheezy. |
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| 02:47.04 | johnfg | Anyway, regardless of how it got overwritten, how can I get grub to detect all systems? |
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| 02:47.20 | dvs | os-prober? |
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| 02:47.59 | johnfg | dvs: os-prober is installed, and it's recognizing/finding windoze. |
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| 02:54.56 | Tylertwo | I like LXDE's CPU usage monitor applet that it shows on its panel. I'm using Openbox with no DE now - any suggestions for something similar I can use? |
| 02:58.19 | Sary | Tylertwo: conky. |
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| 03:00.55 | Tylertwo | Sary, ty, I'll look into it |
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| 03:02.28 | beepie | hi any jackd users? |
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| 03:10.44 | debian5555 | hi, i have try rescue my grub encrypted, following this how to, but i not know mount my /boot in this step mount /dev/sda2 /boot |
| 03:10.57 | debian5555 | i'm using live cd |
| 03:11.15 | debian5555 | root@mint:/# mount /dev/sda2 /boot mount: /dev/sda2: can't read superblock |
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| 03:13.14 | LtL | debian5555: we don't support mint, if that's what you're running, sorry |
| 03:13.37 | bullgard4 | jordanm: What is the effect of pressing shift+m in top? It seems to freeze the output partially. I cold not find an explanatio in 'man top'. |
| 03:13.43 | Arrowmaster | i think thats what hes using as a livecd |
| 03:14.12 | debian5555 | LtL i try recovery my debian wheezy |
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| 03:14.34 | debian5555 | but i'm using live cd of mint |
| 03:14.39 | LtL | ah, well i have no answer to that debian5555 keep asking |
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| 03:15.28 | LtL | debian5555: i would have to resort to google myself for that one. |
| 03:15.38 | Arrowmaster | i tend to use stuff like super grub disk when im in that kinda situation, it does auto magic stuff |
| 03:15.42 | debian5555 | i mount my encrypted lvm, but for how to i need mount my /boot for reintall grub |
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| 03:16.09 | debian5555 | reinstall grub |
| 03:16.33 | LtL | debian5555: Arrowmaster is right about super grub disk, i haven't used it in a long time |
| 03:16.33 | debian5555 | i try google |
| 03:17.16 | Arrowmaster | the two most important cds for recovers to me are grml and parted magic (its got the super grub disk and other tools on it) |
| 03:18.11 | debian5555 | how to know my boot in /dev? |
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| 03:20.12 | LtL | debian5555: just one hdd? |
| 03:20.51 | debian5555 | yes |
| 03:20.56 | LtL | debian5555: should be /dev/sda |
| 03:21.24 | debian5555 | # mount -t ext2 /dev/sda /media/linux/boot/ mount: mount point /media/linux/boot/ does not exist |
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| 03:24.03 | debian5555 | # grub-install /dev/sda Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub grub-probe: error: no such disk. Unknown partition table signature |
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| 03:27.22 | debian555 | hi |
| 03:28.42 | LtL | debian5555: encrypted LVM's i know nothing about |
| 03:28.49 | debian555 | ok |
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| 03:29.43 | debian555 | i need know my /boot partition |
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| 03:37.50 | oomph | which kernel is best suited for a gameserver? |
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| 03:38.48 | Sary | oomph: liquorix! |
| 03:39.01 | oomph | ? |
| 03:39.45 | abrotman | oomph: there's a RT kernel for Debian, or a regulra one, try them both |
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| 03:41.28 | oomph | RT kernel is the one used for 1000FPS servers, right? |
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| 03:42.18 | reavengr1y | RT may or may not help with that |
| 03:42.51 | Sary | oomph: liquorix is a kernel. |
| 03:43.03 | oomph | 32 bit OS w/ PAE or Real Time you think ? linux-image-686-pae |
| 03:43.29 | oomph | Sary: is it specifically for game servers>? |
| 03:45.25 | damentz | oomph, it's actually designed for desktops and laptops |
| 03:45.41 | damentz | it prefers high frequency context switching for low latency over less context switching for throughput |
| 03:45.52 | oomph | not looking for a desktop, need it for a server |
| 03:46.06 | oomph | running E3-1270v3 |
| 03:46.15 | damentz | it also has a better disk scheduler (bfq) and has some tweaks to reduce latency on the network and some writeback tweaks |
| 03:46.46 | damentz | well, remember that gameservers are not pure throughput, they're also about realtime transactions |
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| 03:47.01 | damentz | you probably won't notice a difference, but it's worth considering a kernel optimized for low latency multimedia |
| 03:47.14 | damentz | if it's throughput you want, the stock kernel is what you want |
| 03:48.17 | oomph | bfq is in liquorix ? |
| 03:48.17 | Sary | oomph: you might wanna read about it. if your main concern is the timer frequency 1000 then compile a stock debian kernel and make that change yourself. |
| 03:48.56 | oomph | yeah, it will be my first time doing that, do you have a good link that explains it |
| 03:49.08 | oomph | I googles around some already |
| 03:49.09 | oomph | lol |
| 03:49.33 | damentz | hmm, i think phoronix did a benchmark some time ago |
| 03:49.33 | Sary | taha :) |
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| 03:49.44 | oomph | i was thinking a 32bit os, since the hames are 32bit |
| 03:50.22 | damentz | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=liquorix_38_kernel&num=1 |
| 03:50.26 | damentz | i think that was the latest |
| 03:50.27 | mumpitze1 | oomph: how many games? |
| 03:50.47 | oomph | several games |
| 03:50.48 | mumpitze1 | if you run several at the same time, 32bit might not have enough RAM |
| 03:50.56 | oomph | mostly hlds games |
| 03:51.10 | damentz | mumpitze1, with PAE, each game must use less than 4gb |
| 03:51.12 | oomph | can't you enable pae? |
| 03:51.15 | damentz | if it's more than sharing, he sould be fine |
| 03:51.17 | oomph | for more ram |
| 03:51.26 | damentz | oomph, liquorix's 32-bit kernel is highmem 64gb by default |
| 03:51.43 | damentz | it won't actually work on non pae compatible hardware |
| 03:52.09 | oomph | haswell is compatible though, right? |
| 03:52.09 | mumpitze1 | you can, but it slows down the kernel a bit again |
| 03:52.20 | mumpitze1 | any amd64 capable CPU has PAE |
| 03:52.25 | damentz | not really, i did benchmarks myself and it was immeasurable |
| 03:52.42 | mumpitze1 | so is running a amd64 kernel then |
| 03:52.44 | damentz | or, within error, as they would say |
| 03:52.57 | damentz | amd64 can natively access memory over 4gb |
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| 03:53.29 | damentz | either way, the optimizations you get by running amd64 will outweigh any performance for addressing high memory |
| 03:53.41 | oomph | is liquiix very stable? |
| 03:54.02 | damentz | oomph, well, i am biased, i'm the maintainer of it |
| 03:54.15 | oomph | lol |
| 03:54.22 | damentz | the current version does have zcache force enabled by default, so far so good, several day uptime before i update the kernel again |
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| 03:54.43 | damentz | i have a desktop running minecraft server(s) on an older version, it only goes down when the power goes out |
| 03:54.54 | oomph | does it support Intel® i217LM + Intel® i210AT Controllers |
| 03:55.12 | damentz | i try to enable any module possible whenever a new kernel comes out, you can try and see |
| 03:55.22 | oomph | yeah, I plan to use mostly HLDS games and Minecraft as well |
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| 03:55.38 | damentz | nice, that's kind of what i was doing too |
| 03:55.44 | damentz | only have garrys mod and minecraft at the moment |
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| 03:56.59 | oomph | what kind of hardware are you running on? |
| 03:57.33 | oomph | so if it were you, would you go 32 bit of 64bit? |
| 03:57.47 | oomph | I have around 32 gigs of RAM |
| 03:57.50 | oomph | on the server |
| 03:58.15 | jelly-home | oomph: if you have to ask, 64bit |
| 03:58.56 | damentz | wow, 64-bit for sure |
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| 03:59.06 | damentz | i'm running a system76 laptop, the bonobo extreme |
| 04:00.27 | jelly-home | did not know there already were haswell-based xeons and server chipsets |
| 04:00.34 | damentz | oomph, http://paste.debian.net/57710/ |
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| 04:05.04 | oomph | jelly-home: i have had the servers for 2 months or so |
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| 04:33.26 | SuperPhly | why is rpc.statd running by default in debian 7? can i safely shut it down if I'm not going to be using NFS? |
| 04:33.50 | jelly-home | SuperPhly: sure |
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| 04:34.16 | SuperPhly | jelly-home: i'm looking for where it's queued to run |
| 04:34.25 | jelly-home | SuperPhly: nfs-common init script, afair |
| 04:34.52 | SuperPhly | and how do i set that to be off on bootup? |
| 04:35.09 | jelly-home | !invoke-rc.d |
| 04:35.10 | dpkg | methinks invoke-rc.d is a way of starting or stopping daemons such as a mail server, cron, etc. invoke-rc.d has advantages over running the init script directly in that it is easier to tab complete, it will play nicely with dependency-based init systems like <insserv> and <upstart>. It can also be controlled with a <policy-rc.d> script. invoke-rc.d *must* be used in maintainer scripts -- see policy s9.3.3.2. |
| 04:35.14 | jelly-home | oops |
| 04:35.20 | jelly-home | !update-rc.d |
| 04:35.20 | dpkg | update-rc.d is used to manipulate System V style init script links, which are used to stop/start system services. Read the update-rc.d man page for a good introduction to Debian's boot process. For front-ends, ask me about <rcconf>, <sysv-rc-conf>, <bum>. See also <insserv>. |
| 04:35.22 | SuperPhly | I know that debian uses that update-rc.d command but now that it's a different system... not sure |
| 04:35.23 | jelly-home | that thing. |
| 04:35.23 | SuperPhly | ah |
| 04:35.24 | SuperPhly | ok |
| 04:37.06 | SuperPhly | update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing |
| 04:37.33 | jelly-home | that's fine |
| 04:38.03 | SuperPhly | jelly-home: that's all update-rc.d told me... |
| 04:38.21 | SuperPhly | no "removing" or "completed" type message |
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| 04:40.15 | jelly-home | SuperPhly: was the exit status 0? If it was, I'd assume it did its thing |
| 04:40.33 | SuperPhly | i'll run it again after this reboot, that'll also tell me ;) |
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| 04:42.37 | SuperPhly | Alright, how about rpcbind? |
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| 04:43.55 | jelly-home | not sure if anything else uses sun rpc by default, rpcinfo -p localhost will tell you |
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| 04:48.00 | john_rambo | Please suggest me a graphical backup tool |
| 04:49.40 | mumpitze1 | john_rambo: sbackup should be GUI |
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| 04:50.02 | john_rambo | mumpitze1, Installing .... |
| 04:50.49 | john_rambo | mumpitze1, E: Unable to locate package sbackup |
| 04:51.06 | mumpitze1 | ,v sbackup |
| 04:51.07 | judd | Package: sbackup on i386 -- sid: 0.10.5+nmu1 |
| 04:51.11 | mumpitze1 | oh |
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| 04:52.40 | mumpitze1 | john_rambo: ukopp |
| 04:52.44 | mumpitze1 | ,v ukopp |
| 04:52.45 | judd | Package: ukopp on i386 -- jessie: 4.4-1; wheezy: 4.4-1; sid: 4.7-1 |
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| 04:55.50 | greenride | Does linux have any decent scanning utilities. xsane is a nightmare. |
| 04:55.53 | greenride | ? |
| 04:57.04 | john_rambo | mumpitze1, Stuck at 0% [Waiting for headers] .... I am getting this for a few days now ... but I can open pages and ping remote ips. Gos knowsa whts wrong |
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| 05:02.58 | Sary | greenride: simple scan. |
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| 05:04.04 | ideea | hello, can any1 help with bash script? :) |
| 05:04.52 | ideea | http://pastie.org/8402990 i need to print as string $fastcgi_script_name, but bash is considering this as a variable and printing "" |
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| 05:05.35 | trebor_home | ideea: i am no bash-expert, but try to mask the $ |
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| 05:05.52 | trebor_home | ideea: or use '' |
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| 05:07.12 | trebor_home | echo "\$USER" works here |
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| 05:10.08 | GENSTAAR | greetings |
| 05:10.28 | greenride | Sary: Thanks. Let me try that out. |
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| 05:16.30 | ideea | trebor_home thanks |
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| 05:20.15 | john_rambo | Problem installing packages http://paste.debian.net/57730/ |
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| 05:21.04 | LtL | john_rambo: try a different mirror |
| 05:23.03 | trebor_home | maybe someone can give me a hint, how to hide the magic-cookie to prevent further programs (using x-server) to start? in debian6 a mv $XAUTHORITY <hidden-place> was sufficient, but in debian7 this does not work anymore. i also tried xauth nextract <hidden-file> :0; xauth remove :0 which did not work either ... |
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| 05:29.51 | john_rambo | LtL, I want use the India mirror from here http://www.debian.org/mirror/list ....I have tried this multiple times but didn't succeed (debian.mirror.net.in ) with contrib nonfree ......Please tell me the exact line to type |
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| 05:31.55 | LtL | john_rambo: i've had good fast luck with german mirrors |
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| 05:33.02 | john_rambo | LtL, Okay ...then give a german mirror with contrib nonfree I will just copy paste ! |
| 05:33.23 | LtL | john_rambo: I don't know where you're at.. so consider distance. presently i use a US mirror |
| 05:34.02 | john_rambo | LtL, I am in India now |
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| 05:35.20 | shamedintoloving | I'm brand new to debian. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as a home user with basic linux experience, there is no reason for me not to use debian testing. |
| 05:35.22 | shamedintoloving | Right? |
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| 05:37.41 | LtL | john_rambo: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 05:37.45 | demfc | if i want to mount something with noatime, should I leave "defaults" too? |
| 05:38.23 | demfc | example: /dev/sda3 /home ext4 defaults,noatime 0 2 |
| 05:38.25 | demfc | or just |
| 05:38.32 | demfc | /dev/sda3 /home ext4 noatime 0 2 |
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| 05:42.53 | john_rambo | LtL, Worked ...Thanks |
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| 06:09.03 | john_rambo | I just configured my /etc/fstab to mount the ntfs partiition but after reboot I find the partition is not mounted http://paste.debian.net/57743/ |
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| 06:18.53 | kunns | Hi, I am using a debian desktop as server(shame on me, however fk that). How can I disable the GUI? All I need is a terminal and that could free up some resources |
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| 06:30.14 | umarzuki | or are you using gnome 3 at all? |
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| 06:32.14 | umarzuki | if you want to make it not start at boot use update-rc.d -f remove gdm3 |
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| 06:50.12 | Chupakazol | I'm trying to configure Eclipse with PyDev to use Python3 in stable, but it won't see the interpreter... Am I looking in the wrong place? Where is the python3 interpreter? |
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| 06:54.42 | ExeciN | I have a Wheezy installation on an external firewire/usb HDD. It works fine on my computer. Will it be able to boot on other hardware? |
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| 06:59.34 | patriku | ExeciN: It should work without any problems on different hw too. |
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| 07:02.26 | patriku | ExeciN: Although before you do so, you might need to reconfigure initrd image depending on what you chose during the installation ( targeted vs generic ). |
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| 07:03.22 | ExeciN | I forgot to mention that my installation it is EFI boot-loaded. Should the other computer feature an EFI bootloader? |
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| 07:14.54 | lng | Hi! Why do I get "ln: creating symbolic link `./forum': Read-only file system" when I run "ln -s /media/sf_webapps/forum/" if I can create file in "/media/sf_webapps/forum/"? |
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| 07:16.06 | lng | mount output: webapps on /media/sf_webapps type vboxsf (uid=33,gid=33,rw) |
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| 07:17.30 | lng | strange |
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| 07:35.08 | jelly-home | lng: vboxsf might not support symlinks at all |
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| 07:35.36 | azar | how to make fingerd to state LISTEN in debian? |
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| 07:35.52 | lng | jelly-home: I think so. I resolved it creating symlink on host machine |
| 07:36.08 | lng | reletive one |
| 07:36.19 | lng | q |
| 07:36.21 | lng | :q |
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| 07:53.34 | rryoumaa | how do you extract the torrent title from a torrent file? |
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| 07:58.21 | Kingsy | I am getting this error --> http://pastie.org/8403230 <-- when trying to install a package.. anyone know why? |
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| 08:00.08 | patriku | ExeciN: Sorry, I've been gone from this chat. It should be sufficient if you have installed also i386 target for grub. |
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| 08:00.38 | norberhuis | Hello, my debian install does not scale down the fan and this is really hurting my laptop battery performance. It didn't use to do this. Any ideas how to fix this? |
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| 08:04.47 | patriku | Kingsy: simply 404 means not available. I would try apt-get update and then try to install package. |
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| 08:07.08 | patriku | Kingsy: If apt is trying to find a package from outdated list of packages pointing to old version, it clearly wont find it and fails as it does in your case. Repository you use is up, I have checked that. |
| 08:08.08 | ExeciN | patriku: I don't have a /boot partition. I am using an external bootloader |
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| 08:08.44 | Sary | norberhuis: that indicates that your CPU is not being cooled properly. It is scaling down to prevent itself from having to shut down. Check that your fans are running, check that there's no dust in your case, on your fans or in the dust filter. Check the thermal interface material that sits between the CPU cooler and the CPU. |
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| 08:09.35 | mrtnt | Any ideas why my Ethernet card in CardBus slot does not appear in lspci output: http://perl.nopaste.dk/p62805 ? |
| 08:11.24 | Kingsy | patriku: I have tried apt-get update, it updates fine, but I get the same error after the update. |
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| 08:13.32 | patriku | ExeciN: Just wonder why you dont have one ? But in that case it is up to the machine, you are going to use it on, to boot your system and it has nothing to do with your recent system. But the bootloader on the machine you are going to use you system, will have to be configured to boot it prior to booting it. |
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| 08:14.41 | Konomi | hey guys is there anyway to manually install a deb and have it's dependencies installed with tracking? |
| 08:15.24 | ExeciN | patriku: I choose not to have one because only rEFInd bootloader was working for me. I choose to seperate the bootloader from the rest of the installation so that the OS doesn't mess up with my bootloader. |
| 08:15.58 | magnulu | hello.. using debian and a usb webcam, I am looking for a solution to captura an image from the cam every N minutes, and save it as YEAR-MONTH-DAY-TIME.. any suggestions on how I can achieve this? preferrably by using something already made :-) |
| 08:16.45 | Kingsy | patriku: any ideas? |
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| 08:17.37 | linedash | magnulu, http://askubuntu.com/questions/122899/is-there-a-cli-webcam-image-grabber-that-works-with-a-video4linux2-device |
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| 08:17.54 | patriku | Kingsy: just a sec |
| 08:18.15 | magnulu | linedash: thank you very much' |
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| 08:20.33 | Sary | mrtnt: '02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller ' |
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| 08:24.07 | Sary | Kingsy: try switching to a a different mirror! |
| 08:24.15 | patriku | Kingsy: packages are there but you are requestiong higher versions than the ones available, which is weird. How do you try to install them ? |
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| 08:24.57 | mrtnt | Sary: this is built-in Ethernet controller. Maybe lspci does not show PCMCIA cards? |
| 08:25.06 | Kingsy | patriku: sudo apt-get install php5-dev |
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| 08:27.37 | patriku | Kingsy: As Sary mentioned, try to use different mirror to see. It works just fine in my case using different mirror. But dont forget to do apt-get update after adjusting sources.list . |
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| 08:28.35 | Kingsy | patriku: do you happen to know a mirror I can use? |
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| 08:29.00 | Sary | mrtnt: doesnt show in lshw! sudo lshw -C network ! |
| 08:29.33 | patriku | Kingsy: deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy main |
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| 08:30.19 | patriku | Kingsy: could be a replacement for your recent one. Open sources.list, comment your recent and add the one I have just posted. |
| 08:30.31 | Kingsy | np |
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| 08:31.23 | patriku | Kingsy: you can also add deb-src in case you need to download source code of any package. |
| 08:31.44 | Kingsy | yeah that worked, thanks |
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| 08:35.48 | patriku | Kingsy: Sorry, I have to go now, my work is calling me. Hope you get it done. |
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| 09:07.27 | chrisirc | When using the graphical Debian installer, and entering a new size for an existing ntfs partition, will it really resize that partition without data loss? |
| 09:08.18 | chrisirc | (New size is smaller than original size.) |
| 09:08.19 | nosklo | chrisirc: If all goes well, yes |
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| 09:08.28 | chrisirc | k |
| 09:08.44 | nosklo | chrisirc: make a backup of the data just in case |
| 09:08.49 | chrisirc | ok |
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| 09:10.18 | jelly | chrisirc: yes, ntfsprogs can shrink ntfs partitions. Not sure which ntfs versions are supported |
| 09:11.09 | jelly | a windows OS can get confused afterwards tho, eg. XP sometimes doesn't like when its partition does not end on a cylinder boundary |
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| 09:13.17 | nalaginrut | hi guys! Is there anyone point me out what's the modern way to customize splash screen under debian? thanks for any help |
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| 09:14.44 | chrisirc | I wish so much that the debian installer would ditch busybox and instead use a real small userspace. |
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| 09:15.03 | chrisirc | It's just painful to sit at a Linux prompt but not be able to do anything useful without rebooting. |
| 09:15.16 | chrisirc | (And re-enter all installation questions again afterwards) |
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| 09:22.59 | [jasper] | hej guys, does anybody here use btrfs at the moment? |
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| 09:24.25 | nalaginrut | and I found splashy seems obsolete |
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| 09:27.08 | ksk | hey |
| 09:27.26 | ksk | is there something like a mountoption "only do that, if its not mounted yet"? |
| 09:27.44 | babilen | Do what? |
| 09:27.52 | ksk | that mount |
| 09:28.05 | babilen | don't think so |
| 09:28.51 | babilen | Just mount from /etc/fstab and you'll be fine. |
| 09:29.02 | ksk | I'm using pam_mount over here |
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| 09:33.05 | nalaginrut | any help? |
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| 09:34.23 | w1ck3dg0ph3r | nalaginrut: check out plymouth |
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| 09:34.52 | nalaginrut | w1ck3dg0ph3r: thanks! so plymouth can be used under debian? |
| 09:34.59 | [jasper] | hej guys, what's the way to revert a aptitude install? |
| 09:35.01 | [jasper] | aptitude remove? |
| 09:35.09 | [jasper] | so it also removes all config files and all changes it did? |
| 09:35.29 | movbh | Purge |
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| 09:35.48 | nalaginrut | w1ck3dg0ph3r: got it, thank! |
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| 09:36.06 | w1ck3dg0ph3r | nalaginrut: yep, it is in wheezy at least |
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| 09:38.32 | taccpen | Hi. If debian team was asked to e.g. change priority of default ciphersuits (to prefer export/null/weak encryption to allow for surveillance), would they comply? |
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| 09:42.23 | Krisx | I'm having issues with my home server. I haven't been able to get it to consistently connect to my network on boot. I've somehow figured out the issue several times in the past, but have never been able to pin-point the issue (because most the time it stays on 2 months at a time and it has never been too urgent). Anyways I'm fed up, and I'd greatly appreciate any help I can get. "uname -a" returns "Linux kserver 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2 |
| 09:42.23 | Krisx | .41-2 i686 GNU/Linux" and these images have some additional information: http://i.imgur.com/4ghb0da.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qF7clJw.jpg The computer is connected directly into the router via Ethernet cable and I have a DHCP reservation for 192.168.1.195 on my linksys router, and I've switched out the cord I was using with one I'm sure works, without any luck. Any ideas? |
| 09:42.24 | Krisx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:48.57 | AbrarSyed | hi guys |
| 09:49.12 | AbrarSyed | how would I make an init.d script be run as a different user? thats not root? |
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| 09:50.07 | AbrarSyed | a bunch of services on my server already have such their own dedicated user running them, |
| 09:50.25 | AbrarSyed | imtrying to do the same for a process that didn't automatically do that itself |
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| 09:53.19 | themill | AbrarSyed: many init scripts use start-stop-daemon to help set up the daemon. It has a -c option for this. |
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| 09:53.55 | AbrarSyed | how would I use it? |
| 09:54.15 | AbrarSyed | as of now, ive just been writing the init.d script myself and putting it in the folder |
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| 09:54.24 | AbrarSyed | do I just add an extra line or something? |
| 09:54.30 | AbrarSyed | or.. do I define this somewhere else? |
| 09:54.47 | themill | AbrarSyed: it has a long man page that describes lots of options; you'll find plenty of examples of its usage in other init scripts |
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| 09:55.12 | AbrarSyed | so the command is start-stop-daemon? |
| 09:55.21 | themill | yes |
| 09:55.33 | AbrarSyed | hmm ok thanks |
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| 09:59.59 | AbrarSyed | themill, does the start-stop daemon thing actually generate an init.d file? or do people usually write the initd to just call the start-stopdaemon command? |
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| 10:01.15 | petn-randall | AbrarSyed: The latter. |
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| 10:01.24 | AbrarSyed | hmm ok |
| 10:01.35 | themill | the latter. Instead of calling "foo &" in your init script, you call "start-stop-daemon --start foo" etc. As I said, look at other init scripts that are using this |
| 10:01.52 | petn-randall | AbrarSyed: init scripts are most of the time written by the maintainer, seldomly they come from upstream. |
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| 10:02.18 | AbrarSyed | mhmm ok thanks |
| 10:02.22 | themill | /etc/init.d/skeleton is also useful |
| 10:02.49 | themill | And yes, writing good init scripts can be quite hard. See also systemd. |
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| 10:11.30 | GizMo | salve volevo fare una domanda sul kernel di debian |
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| 10:13.13 | trebor_dki | hm. in debian7 i still not get the x-server magic-cookie hidden/blocked/removed, so that no _further_ program using x can be startet. tried xauth nextract <hidden-file> :0; xauth remove :0 - but still gedit and alike can be started ... what is the trick? |
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| 10:13.33 | GizMo | hanno tolto dal kernel il modulo sata_inic162x.ko perche' qualcuno ha aperto un bug affermando che con questo driver il controller corrompe i dati sul disco, anche se questo capita solo se lo usi come controller raid |
| 10:13.42 | GizMo | ma non e' il mio caso, lo uso con un disco singolo |
| 10:13.51 | babilen | dpkg: it |
| 10:13.51 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 10:36.57 | petn-randall | trebor_dki: Could you explain your exact setup and what you're trying to achieve? Is this over SSH? |
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| 10:40.29 | trebor_dki | petn-randall: in debian6 i ran a very-very basic kiosk mode for one user (daughter). it was just a .xsessionrc script which started an educational software and hiding the magic-cookie by: bash -c "sleep 3; <start-edu-prog> & sleep 3; mv $XAUTHORITY <hidden-place>" & the desired effect was that no further graphical program could be started (until task in edu-prog was completed). that worked nice, but not in debian7 anymore. |
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| 10:43.24 | grn | How can I make someone sponsor my package into Debian faster? I've been waiting for 4 months. |
| 10:44.31 | taccpen | Hi. If debian team was asked to e.g. change priority of default ciphersuits (to prefer export/null/weak encryption to allow for easier surveillance), would they comply? |
| 10:44.39 | babilen | grn: Try #debian-mentors and the best tip that I can give you: Find a suitable team for maintenance of that package and ask members to sponsor it. |
| 10:44.42 | petn-randall | grn: I would ask on #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net which is all about Debian development, where you'll surely get some answers.. This is the stable support channel. |
| 10:44.52 | themill | grn: packaging questions are usually covered in #debian-mentors on oftc. If a debian team is interested in the packages htat helps a lot |
| 10:45.05 | petn-randall | DDOS'ed :) |
| 10:45.39 | petn-randall | taccpen: Even if, it would hardly go unnoticed. |
| 10:45.43 | babilen | taccpen: I don't see a technical reason for that and therefore deem it very unlikely. Are you actually asking about something specific or is this a topic that would be more suitable to #debian-offtopic ? |
| 10:46.10 | taccpen | babilen: heading to #debian-offtopic now, thank you, and my apologies. |
| 10:46.14 | babilen | np |
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| 10:46.41 | trebor_dki | petn-randall: i know that there are full blown kiosk-programs, but they mostly complex and not easy to script (for me). hiding and restoring the magic-cookie was very easy to do. |
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| 10:49.03 | petn-randall | trebor_dki: I'd guess if you move your .Xauthority your X will just make a new one, right? Maybe your can explicitly remove auth with 'xauth remove <displayname>'. |
| 10:49.24 | petn-randall | trebor_dki: Other option would be to start an X without a WM and just the app in fullscreen. |
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| 10:50.30 | babilen | grn: Does that make sense? The channel is, as petn-randall noted, on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) and not here on freenode btw. |
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| 10:54.22 | Pizza1990 | hi all, i installed debian wheezy and i would like to install software through synaptic but it doesnt find anything. i tried to add the repos in synpatic but it doesnt allow me to thick them! |
| 10:54.25 | Pizza1990 | any solution? |
| 10:54.30 | boodie | Hi: I audited the packages (dpkg -C): it found the following packages to be reinstalled (http://paste.debian.net/57820/) because of the missing md5sum. Is there a smart and safe way to do it? |
| 10:54.42 | Shadur | Pizza1990: Are you root? |
| 10:54.53 | Shadur | Or have you acquired root privileges? |
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| 10:55.53 | nomad_fr | hi |
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| 10:56.09 | nomad_fr | Hi, I need help with preseed setup |
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| 10:56.18 | nomad_fr | I just want to launch an earl_command for wifi setup |
| 10:56.20 | trebor_dki | petn-randall: yes i tried: xauth nextract <hidden-file> :0 ; xauth remove :0 but i still was able to start graphical programs (like gedit, ...). i thought of the second option, too - but i hope that it is still posible to hide & later-restore the magic-cookie. |
| 10:56.38 | nomad_fr | In fact just an echo in log would be great for the moment |
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| 10:59.23 | trebor_dki | nomad_fr: did you try &> to redirect standard-output and standard-errors? |
| 11:00.11 | Pizza1990 | Shadur: i am root, i click on the boxes to add repos but they return white |
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| 11:00.42 | grn | ok, thanks for help! |
| 11:01.07 | nomad_fr | trebor_dki: nope |
| 11:01.27 | nomad_fr | i'm trying this : d-i preseed/early_command string echo "Start early_wpa.sh runscript" >> /var/log/syslog |
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| 11:04.29 | trebor_dki | nomad_fr: &>> would append standard output and standard error (maybe additional information) |
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| 11:05.09 | nomad_fr | so something like : d-i preseed/early_command string echo "Start early_wpa.sh runscript" &>> /var/log/syslog |
| 11:05.11 | nomad_fr | ?? |
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| 11:05.50 | trebor_dki | yes. |
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| 11:09.27 | nomad_fr | trebor_dki: nothing more |
| 11:09.55 | nomad_fr | I think the preseed/early_command isn't take |
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| 11:10.58 | motter | does debuild run `make install` if an install target is present in the makefile? |
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| 11:11.26 | trebor_dki | nomad_fr: sorry. was just a guess - i do not know anything about the command you quoted - can't help you there, sorry. |
| 11:11.28 | motter | i'm having trouble building a .deb for collectd - the binaries are not installed to the same place as `sudo make install` would |
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| 11:13.47 | nomad_fr | trebor_dki: it's about preseed |
| 11:13.52 | petn-randall | motter: How is that a problem? |
| 11:14.00 | nomad_fr | for preconfiguration of installatino |
| 11:14.07 | kelpie | guys something weird happens when i try to reboot |
| 11:14.21 | kelpie | system hangs on The system is going down for reboot NOW! |
| 11:14.38 | kelpie | it doesn't even change the runlevel |
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| 11:14.51 | Jone | Hello, is there an addon/plugin for Firefox that will queue downloads? like, when one download is complete, go on to the next, and when that is complete, download that next...etc..automatically? |
| 11:14.53 | petn-randall | kelpie: What release are you running? |
| 11:15.26 | motter | petn-randall: other programs expect them to be in /var/opt, not /usr/bin |
| 11:15.39 | kelpie | petn-randall: sid, last distro-upgrade i did few days ago |
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| 11:18.11 | petn-randall | kelpie: The channel for sid is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, this channel is about stable only. |
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| 11:19.49 | petn-randall | motter: Which program is this? Where are the sources from? |
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| 11:21.14 | nongeek | Hello Folks |
| 11:21.17 | nongeek | How are you? |
| 11:21.41 | nongeek | Can you show me a guidance about Debian and AD? |
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| 11:22.53 | bhuddah | nongeek: hi. what are you trying to achieve? |
| 11:23.34 | motter | petn-randall: collectd, just the latest tarball |
| 11:23.44 | motter | it's for development, not intended to be distributed |
| 11:23.45 | nongeek | I want to run a Debian file server and I have a Windows server. I want to read Active directory users in debian for permission |
| 11:24.06 | nongeek | bhuddah: I know it is not complex but I don't know it |
| 11:24.10 | motter | i wasn't sure where to ask debuild-specific questions |
| 11:24.23 | darsie | How can I see the ethernet bit rate? |
| 11:24.32 | bhuddah | nongeek: i bet there are about 1000 howtos for that readily available. have you tried any of those? :) |
| 11:24.43 | nongeek | not really |
| 11:24.48 | nongeek | Can you advice me? |
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| 11:25.09 | bhuddah | nongeek: have you tried using google? |
| 11:25.25 | nongeek | bhuddah: Of course but I'm afraid |
| 11:25.48 | nongeek | I found some tutorials but I don't know are they valid or not |
| 11:26.15 | petn-randall | motter: I'n not sure if I'm following through. Either your programs need fixing of the path, or you just have to install from sources, instead of the debian package. |
| 11:26.23 | nongeek | http://www.stuartellis.eu/articles/linux-with-active-directory/ |
| 11:26.25 | petn-randall | darsie: mii-tool or ethtool can tell you. |
| 11:27.03 | bhuddah | nongeek: just make sure that you are trying to authenticate samba against the AD... not debian itself... |
| 11:27.41 | nongeek | bhuddah: Can I send PM? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Active_Directory_Integration |
| 11:27.56 | bhuddah | nongeek: but afaik: if you have a windows server, it would be better, to use windows to serve files. |
| 11:28.01 | bhuddah | nongeek: sure you can. |
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| 11:30.42 | BitPuffin | Honestly what is wrong |
| 11:30.44 | BitPuffin | update-grub doesn't find debian |
| 11:30.48 | BitPuffin | but it finds every other OS |
| 11:31.02 | BitPuffin | and it is run IN debian chrooted from the rescue mode |
| 11:31.15 | t0ke | I need a later version of Weechat, so I added "deb http://debian.weechat.org wheezy main" to my sources list. How do I now download the version of weechat from there? |
| 11:31.49 | darsie | petn-randall: thx, ethtool did it, I think. |
| 11:31.50 | BitPuffin | t0ke: update and upgrade? |
| 11:32.10 | t0ke | huh? |
| 11:32.20 | BitPuffin | t0ke: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 11:33.06 | petn-randall | t0ke: Before you do anything, which release are you currently on? |
| 11:33.16 | t0ke | Debian Wheezy |
| 11:33.28 | t0ke | But the weechat for this version is very outdated |
| 11:33.31 | BitPuffin | why grub why |
| 11:33.37 | BitPuffin | why don't you find debian |
| 11:33.42 | t0ke | This is literally the only program i've used where I sort of need the later version |
| 11:33.53 | petn-randall | t0ke: 4.1 is too old for you? That's available in backports. |
| 11:33.56 | BitPuffin | t0ke: what is it that you need? |
| 11:34.04 | BitPuffin | in the new version that is |
| 11:34.24 | t0ke | 4.1? |
| 11:34.25 | t0ke | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/weechat |
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| 11:35.10 | petn-randall | ,v weechat |
| 11:35.11 | judd | Package: weechat on i386 -- squeeze: 0.3.2-1+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 0.3.2-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 0.3.8-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.3.8-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 0.4.1-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.4.1-2; sid: 0.4.2-2 |
| 11:35.24 | petn-randall | ^^ t0ke |
| 11:35.31 | t0ke | :S Sorry I don't know what backports are |
| 11:35.40 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell t0ke about backports |
| 11:36.04 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell t0ke about debian-backports |
| 11:36.36 | petn-randall | t0ke: That should get you going. Generally it's better to use backports if you need stuff than relying on a 3rd party repo. It often breaks things in the long run. |
| 11:37.24 | t0ke | Ahhh okay |
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| 11:38.55 | azcodex | hi |
| 11:40.47 | t0ke | Another thing guys, when I "apt-get update", it gives me "W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/wheezy-getdeb/games/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 141.101.116.236 80]" |
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| 11:40.56 | t0ke | Even though getdeb.net is no longer in my sources list |
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| 11:42.25 | t0ke | Any ideas/ |
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| 11:45.16 | themill | !show sources.list t0ke |
| 11:45.16 | dpkg | t0ke: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: find /etc/apt/ -name '*.list' -printf "\n%p:\n" -exec cat {} \; |
| 11:45.45 | themill | t0ke: (I assume you've already been told that getdeb is a collection of poor quality crap that we can't support in #debian) |
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| 11:46.35 | t0ke | http://pastebin.com/WWckXXNi |
| 11:46.53 | t0ke | themill: indeed I have, that's why I deleted it |
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| 11:47.38 | t0ke | Although that paste still shows it being there |
| 11:47.52 | themill | t0ke: well you still have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/playdeb.list as well as a pile of other stuff in /etc/apt/sources.list.d that you might like to reconsider |
| 11:48.11 | t0ke | I removed it from "/etc/apt/sources.list" :S |
| 11:48.17 | t0ke | Where else do I need to remove it from@ |
| 11:48.19 | t0ke | ? |
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| 11:51.31 | themill | t0ke: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/playdeb.list |
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| 11:51.46 | t0ke | Done |
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| 11:52.57 | troubadour | hey |
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| 11:54.23 | icesword | hello test |
| 11:54.37 | t0ke | This may be a better question for #weechat, but I've deleted .weechat to reset my settings, but when I start weechat it still remembers my previously stored servers |
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| 11:54.52 | t0ke | Is there anywhere else it would store this info? |
| 11:55.19 | themill | t0ke: and as I said, you might like to look at the other files in that directory and reconsider using those repoistiories. |
| 11:55.45 | t0ke | themill: Yeah, I've removed the ones I wasn't using (all except dropbox) |
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| 11:56.17 | iceisfun | can someone here help me with a nat/ip transparancy problem? |
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| 11:56.53 | iceisfun | I have a load balancer in front of some web machines and inbound mail servers and I want to preserve the Clients IP address that is connecting to the Inbound SMTP machine |
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| 11:57.02 | iceisfun | But I've never done anything like that with just iptables |
| 11:57.18 | snadge | are the toolchains used to build dd-wrt packaged for debian? |
| 11:57.44 | snadge | im downloading a 1.3GB .tar.bz2 at the moment scratching my head.. x86 -> mipsel |
| 11:57.50 | linux-fox | hi, all , i want to build a irc server , which software should i use? |
| 11:58.03 | snadge | linux-fox, ircd |
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| 11:58.21 | iceisfun | linux-fox: most irc networks tell you which ircd variant they run |
| 11:58.30 | iceisfun | so pick a network you like and figure out what they run |
| 11:59.11 | iceisfun | I tried to get a freenode node once but was not picked |
| 11:59.31 | snadge | ahh i see why i was confused.. all the arm stuff is packaged for debian |
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| 11:59.53 | snadge | but nobody cares about mips.. got it :P |
| 12:00.17 | snadge | giant disgusting tarball it is |
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| 12:01.04 | linux-fox | Your host is sendak.freenode.net[193.219.128.49/6667], running version ircd-seven-1.1.3 |
| 12:01.22 | linux-fox | thank you , snadge and iceisfun |
| 12:01.52 | snadge | so very polite in here, its wonderful :p |
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| 12:02.04 | mister_zombie | Hi, I need a quick and easy local dns solution, does something exist that kind of looks like the hosts file but will give me a bit more power, like I don't know, wildcards? |
| 12:02.06 | guardian | hello. can someone teach me how to create a directory at boot, before a specific init script kicks in |
| 12:02.09 | steloran | hi |
| 12:02.27 | steloran | what advantages would you say debian has over other distros |
| 12:02.32 | steloran | like fedora, or ubuntu? |
| 12:02.50 | snadge | mister_zombie, i think dnsmasq will likely do what you want.. it has an option to resolv for hosts in /etc/hosts |
| 12:02.53 | themill | dpkg: tell steloran about why debian |
| 12:03.14 | steloran | ok why did i just get pmed |
| 12:03.14 | jimmy__ | Hello all. I have a weird problem that a user i created for proftpd keeps getting a password incorrect arror. The password is correct. What could cause this? The conf file is here: http://pastebin.com/svFmUDwm |
| 12:03.18 | mister_zombie | snadge: Thanks, will look into that |
| 12:03.18 | steloran | i didn't ask for any damn pms |
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| 12:03.52 | snadge | steloran, because thats a loaded question with a potentially highly opinionated / biased response that can degenerate into non productive conversation very quickly |
| 12:04.07 | steloran | why are you attacking me |
| 12:04.09 | steloran | chill out |
| 12:04.14 | snadge | im not its cool :P |
| 12:04.24 | themill | steloran: you asked for information and the bot gave it to you. You can choose to ignore it if you like, but it's about the best anyone can offer |
| 12:04.49 | snadge | in the spirit of friendliness I will give an appropriate answer.. because fedora is horrible and broken, and ubuntu is basically a retard version of debian |
| 12:05.23 | iceisfun | I've always found the bare bones Debian install to be a great foundation for servers |
| 12:05.31 | steloran | what do you mean ubuntu is a retard version of debian |
| 12:05.33 | iceisfun | Not a whole lot of extra stuff, good package support, etc |
| 12:05.40 | steloran | holy hell THAT was loaded |
| 12:05.42 | iceisfun | Easy to get things setup |
| 12:06.08 | snadge | ubuntu takes a snapshot of debians unstable or development branch every 6 months.. massages as many bugs out as it can.. and repeats |
| 12:06.22 | snadge | whereas debian releases when it feels its appropriate to make a release |
| 12:06.50 | themill | dpkg: tell steloran about polls |
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| 12:07.00 | snadge | every now and then, ubuntu will call a version a long term support release.. and will support that brokenness, for years to come.. and also introduce a new broken kernel every 6 months |
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| 12:07.08 | snadge | is that about right? |
| 12:08.05 | steloran | snadge is saying inflammatory things |
| 12:08.07 | steloran | please stop |
| 12:08.25 | snadge | oh i don't know about that.. secretly im an ubuntu user myself |
| 12:08.39 | steloran | then why are you dissing ubuntu |
| 12:08.45 | steloran | and also, why are you in #debian |
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| 12:08.56 | jimmy__ | Hello all. I have a weird problem that a user i created for proftpd keeps getting a password incorrect arror. The password is correct. What could cause this? The conf file is here: http://pastebin.com/svFmUDwm |
| 12:09.00 | snadge | because this is a debian channel, and i came in here specifically to ask about mips toolchains |
| 12:09.03 | jimmy__ | arror = error :) |
| 12:09.07 | snadge | which is hardly an ubuntu question is it? |
| 12:09.20 | snadge | as if canonical would package a toolchain for an obscure platform.. if it wasn't already in debian |
| 12:09.21 | steloran | snadge wow chill out dude |
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| 12:12.07 | snadge | debian does make an excellent server platform, and a logical base with which to develop from.. as ubuntu has discovered |
| 12:12.46 | snadge | and the many other debian based distributions, and non related platforms that include its technology (apt / deb etc) |
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| 12:16.28 | BitPuffin | seriously have no one else experienced this? grub-install failing and none of the workarounds online working and then going in to rescue mode and installing it there running update-grub which doesn't find debian, it only finds all other operating systems |
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| 12:17.54 | BitPuffin | and yes md5sum is checked |
| 12:18.03 | petn-randall | steloran: This channel is about support questions about Debian stable only. Feel free to discuss this further on #debian-offtopic. |
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| 12:19.30 | petn-randall | BitPuffin: Is this Debian squeeze or wheezy? |
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| 12:20.06 | steloran | petn-randall: ok |
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| 12:27.02 | BitPuffin | petn-randall: wheezy |
| 12:27.37 | iceisfun | does anyone have a transparent nat setup in iptables? |
| 12:27.58 | iceisfun | i want to redirect inbound traffic on tcp:25 to a different backend machine and preserve the client ip address |
| 12:28.18 | steloran | iceisfun, yeah, hold on |
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| 12:28.33 | steloran | iceisfun, i think I have a pdf somewhere about precisely that |
| 12:28.39 | steloran | iceisfun, which version are we talking? |
| 12:28.42 | iceisfun | awesome |
| 12:28.56 | iceisfun | my VM is Debian 7 but I think my production firewall is 6 |
| 12:29.01 | steloran | ah damn |
| 12:29.20 | steloran | i was asking precisely because the pdf i have describes it as being buggy if there are version discrepancies |
| 12:29.26 | snadge | my production firewall is dd-wrt :P |
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| 12:29.53 | iceisfun | I can put up a fresh v7 install, thats not a problem |
| 12:30.01 | steloran | iceisfun ahh ok |
| 12:30.01 | iceisfun | I just need to get it setup and working in a test environment |
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| 12:31.27 | iceisfun | it might be time for a upgrade anyway... uptime 670 days RX bytes:101678929802312 (92.4 TiB) TX bytes:258286976609004 (234.9 TiB) |
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| 12:33.39 | OpenTokix | iceisfun: nice =) |
| 12:34.06 | iceisfun | its been a great installation, im glad i switched to debian |
| 12:34.22 | iceisfun | that machine is a atom D510 fanless 1U |
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| 12:34.31 | iceisfun | dedicated to iptables |
| 12:34.44 | steloran | iceisfun what did you have before? |
| 12:34.45 | snadge | im impressed.. and not in a sarcastic way either :P |
| 12:34.51 | steloran | i hope it wasn't ubuntu HAHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 12:34.52 | iceisfun | a lot of CentOS stuff |
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| 12:35.18 | iceisfun | there was a problem with CentOS team not getting releases out at some point and I made the switch to Debian |
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| 12:37.38 | lnxslck | iceisfun, you could have stayed with redhat or fedora |
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| 12:38.17 | iceisfun | but i didnt, and im quite happy with how debian has performed for us |
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| 12:42.38 | jimmy__ | HelloI I want to let a user login to /home/backups/lois (username is lois) . However this seems to give an error of incorrect passwd in proftpd when the folder is no under /home. I changed the homefolder in /etc/passwd but it didnt help. |
| 12:42.47 | jimmy__ | login over ftp :) |
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| 12:44.18 | ChrisH | jimmy__: check /var/log/daemon.log and auth.log to verify the incoorect PW issue. Which shell is in /etc/passwd for lois? |
| 12:44.48 | jimmy__ | /bin/false |
| 12:45.03 | jimmy__ | it works for the backups user btw also with /bin/false |
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| 12:46.51 | jimmy__ | http://pastebin.com/gQEv3Ev7 for a logline out of auth.conf |
| 12:47.40 | jimmy__ | lois:x:1000:1000:,,,:/home/backups/lois:/bin/false is in passwd |
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| 12:49.33 | jimmy__ | it seems that it only works when the lois folder is in /home |
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| 12:51.11 | jimmy__ | a got it |
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| 12:51.25 | ChrisH | jimmy__: I have no deeper clue here as I do not use ftp but sftp/scp. A quick look around showed me, proftpd has a bunch of config options. |
| 12:51.32 | jimmy__ | have the bashrc and .profile file also |
| 12:51.50 | jimmy__ | ChrisH, thanks for looking around. I found it |
| 12:51.53 | jimmy__ | :) |
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| 12:52.03 | jimmy__ | I had not profile files in their home folder |
| 12:52.14 | jimmy__ | didnt know they where needed for /bin/false |
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| 12:55.49 | halfie | hi, how does "-Werror=format-security" work without specifying "-Wformat-security" ? |
| 12:56.21 | halfie | http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.8.1/gcc/Warning-Options.html#Warning-Options says that -Wall doesn't include -Wformat-security. |
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| 13:51.23 | patriku | Hi, what is the best way if i dont want to install a package, but rather unpack it and run it from a directory in my home folder ? The problem is actually how to point to the libraries it needs and it comes with and do that just temporaly ? |
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| 13:54.26 | patriku | In case it is statically linked, so it expects a library in /lib/ . |
| 13:54.52 | jordanm | that would be dynamically linked |
| 13:55.49 | buu | patriku: You can control that with LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
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| 14:00.40 | patriku | buu: great. It works exactly as I was expecting it. ;) |
| 14:00.57 | buu | Hurray |
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| 14:03.31 | quetzakubica | can someone help me setup tmpfs? |
| 14:03.58 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 14:03.58 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 14:04.13 | jhutchins | quetzakubica: Should be set up automatically by the installer, no need for user intervantion. |
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| 14:04.36 | quetzakubica | I have some services running under supervisor. Like django. I would like to run that django app from ramdisk |
| 14:05.00 | quetzakubica | I have mounted dir with django app, but now supervisor doesn't work |
| 14:05.14 | quetzakubica | error (no file) |
| 14:05.42 | quetzakubica | I get it was moved, so paths are incorrect now |
| 14:05.49 | quetzakubica | but where |
| 14:06.57 | johnfg | Anyone know of a way to get update-grub to recognize squeeze, which is installed on /dev/sda? |
| 14:07.06 | johnfg | update-grub |
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| 14:07.18 | jelly | johnfg: is os-prober installed? |
| 14:07.47 | johnfg | recognizes wheezy (which I'm presently running on /dev/sdb, and windoze, on /dev/sda, but it's not writing anything for squeeze. |
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| 14:07.52 | johnfg | jelly: yes. |
| 14:08.36 | johnfg | jelly: I do get the following msg from update-grub: |
| 14:09.20 | johnfg | Found Debian GNU/Linux (6.0.7) on /dev/sda, but it doesn't write anything. |
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| 14:10.14 | jelly | johnfg: that's weird. What does the resulting /boot/grub/grub.cfg look like? |
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| 14:11.19 | kuiik | I was running a apt-get upgrade with new sources. Then my computer died while I had a terminal connection to the upgrading server. Can I somehow see the progress of the apt upgrade, is it still ongoing? |
| 14:15.03 | jhutchins | kuiik: It probably won't complete properly. You can see if the process is still running, and there is an option for aptitude to continue an aborted upgrade. |
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| 14:15.53 | jhutchins | kuiik: There are ways to preserve a process if you loose connection, like running it in screen. |
| 14:15.56 | kuiik | jhutchins: I did not use aptitude but apt-get |
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| 14:16.22 | kuiik | I cannot run apt-get upgrade again, says another process is using it. |
| 14:16.27 | jhutchins | kuiik: Same applies. |
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| 14:17.27 | kuiik | jhutchins: so I just wait for it to finish? |
| 14:17.42 | kuiik | in the background somewhere, it can get stuck on some option |
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| 14:18.58 | jhutchins | kuiik: Right. How long has it been? |
| 14:19.21 | kuiik | 30 minutes perhaps |
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| 14:20.56 | kuiik | jhutchins: what if it's stuck on some option? |
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| 14:27.08 | ^_^_^_^_^_ | I'm switching from Ubuntu to Debian as a Desktop os. How long are releases supported for? |
| 14:27.19 | ^_^_^_^_^_ | and are there LTS releases like ubuntu? |
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| 14:28.31 | roe_ | How do I see what version of iceweasel is in mozilla.debian.net |
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| 14:29.07 | jelly | ^_^_^_^_^_: about 3-ish years. No (not yet). |
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| 14:30.01 | ^_^_^_^_^_ | So essentially "Stable" is "LTS" and? |
| 14:30.04 | ^_^_^_^_^_ | -and |
| 14:30.49 | jelly | well, no, there is no lts. |
| 14:31.15 | arisv | ^_^_^_^_^_, there is stable, testing and unstable. |
| 14:31.16 | roe_ | ^_^_^_^_^_, squeeze (6.0) was released in 2011 and will probably be supported through next year |
| 14:31.29 | ^_^_^_^_^_ | alright thanks for the good information |
| 14:31.37 | arisv | np |
| 14:32.14 | kuiik | when I run nginx -v I get 1.2.2 when I run apt-cache policy nginx I get installed 1.4.1-3, what is this? |
| 14:32.19 | jelly | roe_: it will be supported up to around May 2014. Typically, 12 months after the release +1 is out. |
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| 14:32.45 | roe_ | jelly, right |
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| 14:33.23 | xtriz | after i have setup a home server, what security measures should i take to make it secure ? |
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| 14:33.51 | arisv | kuiik, did you install nginx from a source package before? or straight to the debian packages? |
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| 14:35.20 | kuiik | debian packages |
| 14:35.28 | kuiik | I just updated my source list and made an upgrade nginx |
| 14:35.56 | arisv | kuiik, this is my output, though: nginx version: nginx/1.4.3 after a nginx -v |
| 14:36.30 | jhutchins | ,versions nginx |
| 14:36.31 | kuiik | I get nginx/1.2.1 |
| 14:36.31 | judd | Package: nginx on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2~bpo60+2; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy1; wheezy-backports: 1.4.1-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.4.1-3; sid: 1.4.3-1 |
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| 14:37.29 | kuiik | however apt cache tells me I have 1.4.3 |
| 14:37.44 | arisv | kuiik, did you also upgrade nginx-common? |
| 14:37.46 | jhutchins | kuiik: Do you have sid enabled in our sources list? |
| 14:37.50 | kuiik | no I did not |
| 14:38.13 | arisv | check if sid is enabled then and also upgrade nginx-common |
| 14:39.21 | jelly | *blink* |
| 14:39.50 | jelly | kuiik: it is NEVER a good idea to mix stable and newer distros |
| 14:40.11 | larico | hi, anyone knows a way to backup ipset, similarly to what iptables-persistent does ? |
| 14:40.42 | BitPuffin | Is it possible to host a debian repository in another os than debian? |
| 14:40.43 | larico | if it doesn't exist, maybe iptables-persistent would need that feature ? |
| 14:40.44 | BitPuffin | or ubunt |
| 14:40.44 | kuiik | installing the common did the trick. |
| 14:40.49 | BitPuffin | not even linux based |
| 14:40.53 | kuiik | Jelly: I understand that, I was just curious. |
| 14:41.15 | larico | BitPuffin> sure, a debian repo is HTTP based |
| 14:41.15 | BitPuffin | like netbsd |
| 14:41.23 | larico | or FTP |
| 14:41.24 | BitPuffin | larico: oh really? |
| 14:41.25 | koollman | larico: ipset --save , ipset --restore |
| 14:41.27 | BitPuffin | nice |
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| 14:41.47 | BitPuffin | so you could even be crazy enough and do it in windows? |
| 14:42.11 | larico | koollman> thing is you'd need tools to build that repo |
| 14:42.14 | larico | oops |
| 14:42.23 | arisv | jelly, why are you blinking? :P |
| 14:42.24 | larico | BitPuffin> thing is you'd need tools to build that repo |
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| 14:42.43 | arisv | kuiik, so was it the common package? |
| 14:42.48 | koollman | BitPuffin: there is nothing 'magic' needed to host a debian repo. accessible files via http or ftp, and a way to sync the data from another mirror. (for the last part, it's easier on debian, but simple on most unix-like system. Haven't tried on windows) |
| 14:43.00 | kuiik | arisv: yes |
| 14:43.07 | larico | koollman> yeah thanks ;) do you think iptables-persistent would need this feature ? cause iptables and ipset are relevant in my current setup |
| 14:43.09 | kuiik | my apt-get upgrade nginx installed like 460 new packages. |
| 14:43.10 | arisv | cool :-) |
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| 14:43.19 | BitPuffin | larico: well I mean you could still package the files in debian |
| 14:43.24 | BitPuffin | koollman: rsync? |
| 14:43.26 | arisv | kuiik, you should have checked nginx dependencies. |
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| 14:43.41 | kuiik | yes, am a beginner playing in a live server enviorement. Do not mind me. |
| 14:43.48 | larico | BitPuffin> sure |
| 14:43.59 | koollman | BitPuffin: http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror "How to mirror". preferred way is a script named ftpsync |
| 14:44.00 | jelly | arisv: no, he should have not used testing or sid deb lines on a stable installation |
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| 14:44.16 | arisv | jelly, agree. |
| 14:44.45 | koollman | BitPuffin: (and, yes, it's rsync based, but it does automate nicely. else read 'rsync setup' on the same page) |
| 14:45.07 | kuiik | But I suppose it's not possible to go back to the stable version? |
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| 14:46.16 | koollman | kuiik: it's usually considered impossible. it may be done, but it's risky, not-guaranteed, and very painful |
| 14:46.17 | jelly | kuiik: nah, the simplest thing to do is reinstall |
| 14:46.19 | Bronze | I am using debian from a usb drive and trying to install libcurl3_7.26.0-1 (wheezy). apt-get tries to get it from lehigh.edu which returns 404. I need to point apt-get at a valid repository. How do I find a repo that has this file and what config file do I change on my system to have apt-get go there? |
| 14:46.33 | kuiik | jelly: screw that :D |
| 14:46.45 | kuiik | i'll stick with the testing |
| 14:46.46 | jelly | Bronze: run an apt-get update, and try to install again |
| 14:46.48 | kuiik | it will become stable eventually |
| 14:47.08 | Bronze | jelly: will apt-get updte work on a a read only USB? |
| 14:47.09 | jelly | Bronze: do you require exactly that specific version? |
| 14:47.29 | Bronze | jelly: thats the one being specified when I try to install chrome |
| 14:47.54 | jelly | Bronze: I bet it's a (>= ...) dependency |
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| 14:48.25 | Bronze | Jely i don't know that symbol. |
| 14:48.35 | Bronze | *jelly |
| 14:48.46 | jelly | Bronze: typically packages depend on "this version or any later" |
| 14:48.51 | jelly | of a library |
| 14:48.55 | Bronze | I know what dependencies are. |
| 14:49.19 | Bronze | does that symbol mean "this version or any later" ? |
| 14:49.19 | jelly | Bronze: I'm explaining what >= ... means |
| 14:49.31 | Bronze | got it |
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| 14:49.55 | bibi346 | hi, I'm beginning with linux, I don't understand what does option 2 means here : http://pastie.org/8403960 , how is it possible? will it open multiple tcp sockets? |
| 14:50.06 | jelly | Bronze: so if you're running a live image of some sort, do an apt-get update, and then run apt-get -f install |
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| 14:50.38 | Bronze | what does apt-get -f install with no target package do? |
| 14:50.40 | [jasper] | hej guys, what's the best way to start a service in a chroot, upon server boot? |
| 14:50.41 | jelly | Bronze: that latter will try to make the apt state consistent, including trying to install any missing dependencies |
| 14:50.57 | Bronze | Isee. |
| 14:51.02 | Bronze | thanks will do now |
| 14:51.12 | jelly | Bronze: it's idiomatically used to install deps after a failed dpkg -i |
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| 14:51.17 | larico | bibi346> it means you'll bind to 'any' with port given |
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| 14:52.02 | johnfg | jelly: I'll paste the current grub.cfg: http://dpaste.com/1417783/ |
| 14:52.29 | Bronze | idiomatically => "done by idiots" right? :) |
| 14:52.48 | jelly | *nod* |
| 14:53.05 | Bronze | heh |
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| 14:55.03 | johnfg | jelly: I just ran update-grub2 and it definitely writes nothing for squeeze. Any ideas? |
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| 14:55.36 | bibi346 | larico: ok, and how can I know which pp adresses "any" contains? |
| 14:55.45 | bibi346 | *ip adresses |
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| 14:56.07 | larico | pp ? |
| 14:56.13 | darsie | paypal? |
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| 14:56.25 | bibi346 | ip sorry |
| 14:56.35 | darsie | ohh, this is not #bitcoin-otc :) |
| 14:56.59 | jelly | johnfg: nop, not sure what's going on there |
| 14:57.15 | larico | bibi346> any means any interface available |
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| 14:59.30 | bibi346 | larico: do you know where I can find documentation about this? I've always tought a TCP socket could be bound to an "adress + port" pair only. |
| 15:00.05 | larico | second |
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| 15:02.17 | bibi346 | larico, I think this one explains what you said about "any interface"? http://www.hsc.fr/ressources/articles/win_net_srv/multiple_bindings.html |
| 15:02.27 | larico | http://www.cs.rutgers.edu/~pxk/rutgers/notes/sockets/ |
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| 15:02.43 | larico | search the INADDR_ANY constant |
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| 15:03.02 | larico | yes bibi346 |
| 15:04.15 | bibi346 | larico, ok thx I'll check this out |
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| 15:14.14 | BitPuffin | koollman: okay thanks! |
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| 15:38.49 | acu | I should have probably just to /boot and choose ext 4 ? |
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| 15:53.42 | acu | OK so what is the recommended way to install debian in an UEFI based machine ? |
| 15:54.18 | wysiwtf | o hai |
| 15:54.40 | wysiwtf | what disadvatages does it have to use devices instead of UIDs for mdadm? |
| 15:54.43 | jhutchins | !UEFI |
| 15:54.43 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" supports installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. See also <errata>. http://www.uefi.org/ |
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| 15:54.46 | Sevet | acu: do you mean uefi or secure boot? |
| 15:54.55 | Sevet | yea, see above :) |
| 15:55.06 | wysiwtf | somehow im having problem booting my server lately and it goes to the rescue system |
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| 15:57.39 | Sevet | wysiwtf: is grub installed to the mbr of all drives? |
| 15:57.58 | Sevet | hmm nevermind rescue suggests it's reaching grub |
| 15:58.04 | wysiwtf | yeah |
| 15:58.13 | acu | Sevet: uefi not secure - I disable that - I have only wheezy |
| 15:58.17 | wysiwtf | its sda and sdb as raid 1 -> md0 |
| 15:58.22 | acu | but somehow it does not see it - |
| 15:58.34 | wysiwtf | it ran like a charm until i decided to reboot after 180 days and go from kernel 3.2.x to 3.10 |
| 15:58.43 | wysiwtf | suddenly it hangs at boot time and cannot find md0 anymore |
| 15:58.46 | acu | I created a UEFI fat32 100 MB partition (during) install - but it can nog get |
| 15:59.00 | wysiwtf | if i enter "mdadm --assemble --scan" all works and i can exit the rescue system |
| 15:59.08 | wysiwtf | so it must be something in the initrd |
| 15:59.37 | wysiwtf | when im looking at the mdadm.conf there it has a UID in it, but its the same mdadm gives me when i query it |
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| 15:59.58 | wysiwtf | but telling mdadm to just fucking assemble sda and sdb seems safer |
| 16:00.00 | ripso | hi :) |
| 16:00.11 | stf | is there a way to make the user-file editable by dconf-editor writeprotected? |
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| 16:01.16 | ripso | need help with one of my hd. I've juste installed a new one, and I see that he write constantly at 2Mo/s but iotop doesn't say anything about it. Someone have an idea please? |
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| 16:02.27 | eptalon | ripso: how do you say there's a constant write if iotop does not show it? |
| 16:02.30 | dimitry7 | Hello guys, Is it possible to create two VPNs from Company A to Company B, when Both have Different Public IP addess?? Both VPNs will lead to the same subnet... is that possible?? |
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| 16:02.46 | ripso | http://95.130.11.85/screencloud/Screenshot20131015154741.png |
| 16:03.00 | benben159 | dimitry7, ofcourse you can |
| 16:03.09 | jordanm | dimitry7: if they are both the same subnet, how do you determine what needs to be routed through the VPN? |
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| 16:03.39 | ripso | the disk is empty, i've just format it |
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| 16:04.15 | dimitry7 | benben159, how can I do it? |
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| 16:04.33 | dimitry7 | jordanm, I don't know how to tell the traffic to go through one vpn or the other |
| 16:05.45 | benben159 | dimitry7, using openvpn with bridging mode. each client must run openvpn to join that subnet |
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| 16:07.10 | ripso | eptalon : iotop says DISK WRITE 2000K/S but there is nothing in the list which write at 2M... |
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| 16:07.34 | eptalon | ripso: kernel stuff? |
| 16:08.25 | ripso | Linux MASTER 3.8.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 1 16:35:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 16:08.49 | daemonkeeper | looks at the channel name |
| 16:09.55 | dimitry7 | benben159, yes i use openvpn, but when I do ssh user@host how will it decide for which tunnel to go? |
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| 16:10.08 | daemonkeeper | The routing table decides. |
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| 16:10.17 | Static | :P |
| 16:10.59 | dimitry7 | daemonkeeper, mmmm that means I must specify which traffic goes through one VPN or the other right? |
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| 16:11.55 | daemonkeeper | dimitry7: Right that. That being said, OpenVPN support push routes which are able to install routes on the client automatically. |
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| 16:12.28 | shingouz | ripso: you do not by any chance run ubuntu on tht box? |
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| 16:12.37 | benben159 | dimitry7, is this what you want? http://docs.openvpn.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/OpenVPN-Layer-2-Bridging-Site.png |
| 16:12.54 | daemonkeeper | Bridging is L2. |
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| 16:13.14 | daemonkeeper | If you want to decide what packets goes where, you need L3. |
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| 16:13.45 | Lanser | HI. |
| 16:13.51 | Lanser | Is anybody here? |
| 16:14.01 | eptalon | Lanser: nope |
| 16:14.10 | ripso | shingouz < i don't understand |
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| 16:14.29 | Lanser | My debian system is consuming much more RAM than expected, when I first installed it, it just around 150MB. |
| 16:14.42 | Lanser | How can I see what useless packages I have installed? and which ones are causing this ram usage? |
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| 16:15.06 | shingouz | ripso: your uname seems to be originating from an ubuntu box, if you are running ubuntu, you really should ask at the appropriate channel. ubuntu and debian are related but not the same |
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| 16:15.23 | Sevet | Lanser: use a tool like top to view the memory usage of running programs |
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| 16:15.32 | eptalon | they are different in many small details. |
| 16:15.37 | Sevet | Lanser: packages on disk won't consume ram, only those running |
| 16:15.41 | Lanser | I want a program with a GUI, sevet. |
| 16:15.44 | Lanser | I am not tech savvy. |
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| 16:16.13 | eptalon | Lanser: even then, a package that just lies around uses disk, but not ram. |
| 16:16.40 | Lanser | eptalon: is there any programs with a GUI that I can check which programs/processes are consuming ram..etc |
| 16:16.44 | Lanser | except htop. |
| 16:16.48 | Lanser | and task manager. |
| 16:17.04 | Lanser | and something, which would give me a list of useless packages. |
| 16:17.33 | eptalon | Lanser: apt-get autoclean, and apt-get autoremove; both are command-line though |
| 16:17.54 | ripso | shingouz < i think it's not a ubuntu or a debian problem... I have the same disk which works well on the same computer |
| 16:18.05 | Lanser | I ran those commands, eptalon. |
| 16:18.21 | dimitry7 | daemonkeeper, ok I understand |
| 16:18.21 | Lanser | I am looking for some program, which can tell me which processes/programs use the most usage. |
| 16:18.31 | jordanm | top |
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| 16:19.20 | dimitry7 | benben159, no, there we have the same segment in both sides... what I want is a different segment in each side but with two tunnels leading to it. |
| 16:19.23 | buu | Lanser: Linux systems will continue to use memory to store random things that are unrelated to which programs are running this is not a problem. |
| 16:19.28 | shingouz | ripso: if you have a duplicate of the problematic drive that runs perfectly i think you have either made a mistake somewhere when you transferred the system onto the new drive |
| 16:19.58 | jordanm | !tell Lanser about free ram |
| 16:20.00 | ripso | there is nothing on the new drive, i've just format it |
| 16:20.04 | Lanser | buu: how can I check those 'things' |
| 16:20.10 | musca | !debfoster |
| 16:20.10 | dpkg | from memory, debfoster is a tool to detect "orphaned" dependencies to help you get back some disk space. Also ask me about <deborphan> <autoremove> <unmarkauto> <obsolete> <uninstall everything>. |
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| 16:20.21 | musca | !cruft |
| 16:20.21 | dpkg | it has been said that cruft is a program to look over your system for anything that shouldn't be there, but is; or for anything that should be there, but isn't. To install it, type apt-get install cruft. It takes a while to run. |
| 16:20.30 | Lanser | I will check these out, thanks musca. |
| 16:20.32 | musca | and bleachbit |
| 16:20.38 | ripso | http://95.130.11.85/screencloud/Screenshot20131015164545.png |
| 16:20.42 | Lanser | I have bleachbit. |
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| 16:20.58 | buu | Lanser: They aren't things, they're the kernel using memory to make your system faster. |
| 16:21.11 | buu | Lanser: You can't do anything to control it. There's zero point in having empty ram. |
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| 16:21.27 | Lanser | I want to have just 100MB ram usage. |
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| 16:22.09 | ripso | http://95.130.11.85/screencloud/Screenshot20131015182159.png |
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| 16:22.43 | eptalon | Lanser: I run some gui, with 2-3 terminal vindows, and ram usage is at about 2.5 GB |
| 16:23.12 | eptalon | (current Debian) |
| 16:23.29 | musca | there are cheatcodes to prevent the kernel from using specified regions of RAM |
| 16:23.31 | Lanser | I installed cruft. |
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| 16:23.37 | Lanser | I did "sudo cruft" and nothing is popping up. |
| 16:23.41 | Lanser | is something happening? |
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| 16:24.16 | Sevet | Lanser: it takes a while to run |
| 16:24.30 | Lanser | is it with a GUI? |
| 16:24.32 | shingouz | ripso: i do not see your new drive anyhere on the screenshots |
| 16:24.36 | Sevet | it's commandline |
| 16:24.40 | musca | and it's a commandline program |
| 16:24.49 | Lanser | I see. |
| 16:24.50 | Sevet | Lanser: you're on linux... get comfortable with commandline tools |
| 16:24.51 | ripso | shingouz < /var/databases |
| 16:25.05 | Lanser | sevet: I am quite new to linux, so. |
| 16:25.06 | ripso | shingouz < /dev/sda1 |
| 16:25.14 | Lanser | I used Ubuntu, but switched to Debian a year ago. |
| 16:25.24 | Lanser | I wanted to make myself familiar with the CLI. |
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| 16:25.53 | Lanser | are there any ebooks you guys would recommend? that would teach me some of the main things about linux? |
| 16:26.02 | Sevet | Lanser: cruft will report files that aren't part of a package (eg your documents) and those you've changed (eg config files)... it won't help find unused packages |
| 16:26.06 | shingouz | ripso: looks like an empty, formatted drive to me... |
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| 16:26.16 | Lanser | I see, sevet. |
| 16:26.18 | ripso | shingouz < yes it is that... |
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| 16:26.43 | ripso | shingouz < an empty drive which write constantly nothing at 2MB/s |
| 16:26.56 | Quare | Lanser: http://www.debian.org/doc/books |
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| 16:27.18 | Lanser | what is the difference between debian, ubuntu, redhat...etc? |
| 16:27.20 | ripso | shingouz < http://95.130.11.85/screencloud/Screenshot20131015163914.png |
| 16:27.21 | Lanser | they are all linux. |
| 16:27.29 | shingouz | ripso: maybe you made a mistake when formatting it? i am thinking maybe some strange journaling or something |
| 16:27.31 | Lanser | but with different desktop enviroments and software packaging systems? |
| 16:27.40 | eptalon | Lanser: Administration tools, packaging system. |
| 16:27.52 | shingouz | Lanser: what is the difference between a ford and a yugo? they are both cars, after all |
| 16:28.01 | eptalon | Lanser: desktop environments are the same. |
| 16:28.14 | ripso | shingouz < the thing which is wierd is that it is a 2048K write... it seems too 2n... |
| 16:28.22 | Lanser | which DE's do you guys use? |
| 16:28.22 | eptalon | shingouz: Or a Ferary and a Trabant |
| 16:28.25 | Lanser | I use xfce, 32bit. |
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| 16:28.30 | Lanser | even tho my system can run 64bit. |
| 16:28.33 | Sevet | ripso: journalling perhaps |
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| 16:28.52 | eptalon | Lanser: I use xfce 64 bit, works fine. |
| 16:29.03 | Lanser | how much ram do you have, eptalon? |
| 16:29.05 | Sevet | ripso: disks have 512-byte sectors perhaps that's why such a round number |
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| 16:29.15 | eptalon | Lanser: 8GB physical. |
| 16:29.25 | ripso | Sevet < where/what can i search? |
| 16:29.27 | Lanser | wow, mines is just 4GB. |
| 16:29.35 | petn-randall | ripso: Did you recently create a ext4 filesystem on it? |
| 16:29.42 | eptalon | Lanser: thats enought too. |
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| 16:29.57 | ripso | petn-randall < yes it's a full ext4 |
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| 16:30.09 | eptalon | Lanser: I rarely use more than 3-4 gig. |
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| 16:30.28 | cltns | hi |
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| 16:30.33 | petn-randall | ripso: The something called lazy inode initialisation, which will cause smalls random writes on the filesystem, until it's fully done. |
| 16:30.52 | cltns | can someone please point me to a simple tutorial for postfix+dovecot configuration? |
| 16:31.18 | ripso | petn-randall < like how many time?? it's like that for 2hours now |
| 16:31.26 | cltns | I don't want mysql or any other extra stuff, just plain simple email server |
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| 16:31.56 | petn-randall | ripso: depends on the disk size and speed. It's done with a low I/O priority to not disturb other things. |
| 16:32.19 | ripso | petn-randall < it's a 2TB |
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| 16:32.46 | ripso | petn-randall < you're sure? |
| 16:32.54 | petn-randall | ripso: Yes, I'm sure. |
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| 16:33.28 | ripso | petn-randall < a big thanks to you so! I was afraid the drive had an hardware problem |
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| 16:34.13 | petn-randall | ripso: check 'man mkfs.ext4' for 'lazy_itable_init', it's explained there. |
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| 16:34.49 | petn-randall | ripso: You can easily check for HDD problems with smartctl. |
| 16:35.19 | gandy909 | having issue with "apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys EEA14886". It is timing out. |
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| 16:35.44 | petn-randall | ripso: It's a minor nuisance for freshly set up laptops. The last time I did it it was gone a day later, so it'll maybe take a few hours. |
| 16:35.59 | ripso | petn-randall < ok i'll search for smartctl, i don't have it in my repos |
| 16:36.18 | zerick | Hii guys, I find that is possible to see the body message but for the mail in queue, I want to know the content of a mail that was sent, is that possible ? |
| 16:36.34 | zerick | I'm using Exim4 |
| 16:36.46 | petn-randall | gandy909: Wrong channel, it's Ubuntu's keyserver. |
| 16:37.06 | ripso | petn-randall < ok so i'll wait it finish before put my databases on it |
| 16:37.09 | eptalon | zerick: nope, afaik exim logs headers at best. |
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| 16:37.21 | gandy909 | I am trying to install java on debian, and this was suggested |
| 16:37.23 | ripso | petn-randall < thanks very much for your help! |
| 16:37.24 | shingouz | ripso: also, if you are really running ubuntu, check with them, there might be some ubuntu-weirdness going on too |
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| 16:37.31 | iceisfun | how do i make a iptables rule that excludes just one host |
| 16:37.36 | petn-randall | ripso: You can already use that FS normally, just don't benchmark it yet :) |
| 16:37.41 | petn-randall | ripso: You're welcome. |
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| 16:38.04 | eptalon | zerick: but there's an exim channel that would probably know more. |
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| 16:38.55 | ripso | shingouz < It's the last ubuntu i've installed on a computer, now i install fresh debian... So with this pb i thought debian to resolve it ^^ |
| 16:39.00 | zerick | eptalon, ok, thx |
| 16:39.09 | shingouz | k |
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| 16:39.39 | petn-randall | gandy909: Suggested by whom? You don't need to add foreign keys to apt to install Java! |
| 16:39.50 | ripso | petn-randall < i prefer to be sure it is this before put my databases on it... I'll cry my db if i lost them :d |
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| 16:40.07 | gandy909 | I need to install Orace java 7 |
| 16:40.16 | petn-randall | gandy909: That's the key for Launchpad VLC, this has nothing to do with Java, or Debian. |
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| 16:40.40 | imran-uk | gandy909, this guide helped me http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-debian.html |
| 16:40.45 | ripso | thanks again all for the help and see you soon :) |
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| 16:40.53 | gandy909 | ya that ... http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-in-debian.html |
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| 16:40.59 | petn-randall | ripso: This has nothing to do with safety of the filesystem, it's just as safe before and after the initialisation. |
| 16:41.14 | petn-randall | !jre |
| 16:41.15 | dpkg | Java is a cross-platform C++-like OO language. Sun, now Oracle, has released most of its Java implementation under the GPL as <openjdk>. There are other implementations packaged; for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" systems, Sun's JRE/JDK is in <non-free> (for i386, amd64 only). Ask me about <install java>. See also <java alternatives>, <icedtea>, <java ipv6>, <java-package>. http://wiki.debian.org/Java ##java on irc.freenode.net. |
| 16:41.25 | petn-randall | !install java |
| 16:41.25 | dpkg | For the Java web browser plugin, install the icedtea-plugin package (install icedtea6-plugin for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze"). For other Java programs, install the default-jre package to get the default or manually select one of openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-7-jre yourself. The old <sun-java6> packages are best avoided as Oracle now forbids Debian providing any security updates to them. See also <java alternatives>. |
| 16:41.38 | petn-randall | ^^ gandy909 |
| 16:42.18 | gandy909 | openjdk will not work for the app I am installing |
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| 16:42.36 | petn-randall | gandy909: If you add 3rd party repos incompatible with Debian (this is a Ubuntu PPA), people in here will likely not help you debug any issues stemming from that. |
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| 16:44.07 | gandy909 | I understand that, of course. I really am thinking that the 'issue' is with apt-key in that I am behind a proxy, and was looking for any hints in that regard |
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| 16:44.55 | petn-randall | gandy909: Install 'java-package' to make .deb from Oracle Java. It is the recommended way if your *really* need it, as it won't break your system. |
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| 16:45.53 | gandy909 | petn-randall: is there a howto with the specifics on that? |
| 16:45.53 | petn-randall | gandy909: Adding a Ubuntu repo to a Debian system *will* break your system in the long run, as is strongly frowned upon because of dependency problems that'll come up. |
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| 16:46.07 | petn-randall | gandy909: https://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage |
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| 16:47.52 | gandy909 | petn-randall: thanks for the assist. I'll give that a shot! |
| 16:48.13 | LogicnLove | is away: Cya |
| 16:48.13 | petn-randall | gandy909: You're welcome, good luck! |
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| 16:53.37 | gandy909 | petn-randall: wow, it must just not be my day. aptitude install java-package says no package with that name :( |
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| 16:54.05 | petn-randall | gandy909: Which release are you on? |
| 16:54.46 | petn-randall | gandy909: If you don't know you can paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.debian.net |
| 16:54.49 | gandy909 | fresh install today of 7.2 |
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| 16:55.07 | petn-randall | gandy909: Ah, maybe you haven't enabled contrib |
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| 16:56.05 | petn-randall | gandy909: In /etc/apt/sources.list, after 'main' add 'contrib' as a separate word. Then do 'apt-get update'. |
| 16:56.39 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell gandy909 about contrib |
| 16:56.41 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell gandy909 about contrib list |
| 16:56.54 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell gandy909 about contrib list |
| 16:57.08 | gandy909 | I hate Windows |
| 16:57.48 | socomm | I hate doors |
| 16:57.50 | gandy909 | been awhile since I installed a deb system. that fixed it. |
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| 16:58.01 | socomm | namely after Jim Morisson died ;__; |
| 16:58.05 | petn-randall | We mostly ❤ Debian, but some hate Windows, too. |
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| 16:58.28 | socomm | petn-randall: I don't hate anything that will put a meal on my table |
| 16:58.40 | gandy909 | thats what Windows does |
| 16:58.52 | petn-randall | socomm: Windows doesn't put a meal on my table :/ |
| 16:58.58 | petn-randall | socomm: Now I'm hungry. |
| 16:59.00 | zlude | Hello my system crash today, when i reboot i see https://paste.fedoraproject.org/46933/56251138/ it's a problem in /dev/sdc1. So i use a ubuntu live cd to fcsk and it's show clean when i run fsck -f /dev/sdc1 and reboot without live the the problem appears. someone can help me? please. |
| 16:59.37 | socomm | petn-randall: theres good money to be made off windows |
| 16:59.37 | jhutchins | zlude: Is it ubuntu on the system? |
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| 17:00.00 | zlude | jhutchins, no... fedora. livecd ubuntu |
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| 17:00.07 | socomm | zlude: sounds like you've a bad disk |
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| 17:00.18 | petn-randall | zlude: This is #debian, you're asking in the wrong channel. |
| 17:00.52 | ExeciN | Whenever I boot into debian, bluetooth is always enabled. What's wrong? |
| 17:00.57 | zlude | petn-randall, it's is not important. is not a OS problem, it's a LINUX problem. so i asked in any channel. sorry. |
| 17:01.11 | socomm | ExeciN: disable bluetoothd |
| 17:01.23 | socomm | zlude: there is a #linux channel, m8 |
| 17:01.53 | petn-randall | zlude: It is important. We support only Debian stable in here, for a number of technical and social reasons. We have no clue how Fedora sets stuff up, ask the fedora channel for that. |
| 17:01.59 | Guest64888 | zlude: it's like asking Volvo question in BMW channel |
| 17:02.09 | socomm | Guest64888: its a care question, duh |
| 17:02.12 | socomm | s/care/car/ |
| 17:02.15 | Guest64888 | lh |
| 17:02.19 | Guest64888 | sighs |
| 17:02.20 | ExeciN | socomm: I use bluetooth from time to time, disabling bluetoothd will make me start the service every time I want to use it. |
| 17:02.38 | zlude | my god! why it? it's just a linux community sure? so, help linux users we are noting telling about cars, we are telling about OS. fuck that. |
| 17:02.49 | petn-randall | !ops zlude |
| 17:02.49 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: petn-randall complains about: zlude |
| 17:02.57 | Guest64888 | zlude: your OS is different. |
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| 17:03.42 | socomm | any mods on here? zlude is clearly trolling |
| 17:03.44 | zlude | so OKAY! i'm using DEBIAN and getting this error in boot screen: http://pastebin.com/LSeTvUyY |
| 17:03.51 | zlude | better now? |
| 17:04.00 | ctmjr | to late |
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| 17:04.22 | socomm | zlude: you blew your cover m8, change your nick and re-join |
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| 17:04.33 | fishcooker | im using this intel pro wireless 4965 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6241292/ .. i want to make this as AP with this info https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_wireless_drivers#Driver_capabilities.. my driver that i use 'iwlagn' doesn't support the AP mode, but it seems possible with this http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi/?p=iwlwifi#Features.. is my hardware can be used as AP? |
| 17:04.36 | socomm | !ops zlude |
| 17:04.36 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: socomm complains about: zlude |
| 17:04.53 | socomm | fishcooker: /j #ubuntu |
| 17:04.59 | Guest64888 | zlude: find out what hte check is and consult the documentation of your OS |
| 17:05.33 | socomm | Guest64888: I've already told him either his disk is bad or his FS is corrupt |
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| 17:05.40 | Guest64888 | zlude: i don't see any relevant hte manpage on my debian box, also nothing relevant in packages |
| 17:05.56 | Guest64888 | socomm: might be, i don't know what 'hte' is |
| 17:06.15 | socomm | Guest64888: he mispelled "the" - you'll get that error when fsck fails |
| 17:06.15 | Guest64888 | oh, it says hte filesystem check. |
| 17:06.17 | ExeciN | zlude: try your luck on #linux |
| 17:06.21 | imran-uk | could it be a typo of "the"? |
| 17:06.42 | Guest64888 | zlude: is anything relevant before this error ? |
| 17:06.46 | edju | Does nouveau require fbcon and/or modesetting? |
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| 17:06.57 | socomm | oh lord these guys are dense |
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| 17:07.19 | petn-randall | edju: nouveau supports KMS. |
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| 17:09.14 | edju | petn-randall, OK - now I'll go look up what KMS is. |
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| 17:09.35 | rindolf | Hi all. How can I tell apt-get to use a different downloader? |
| 17:09.56 | rindolf | My ISP sucks and I get crappy bandwidth to a host in my country. |
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| 17:10.16 | daemonkeeper | apt-get uses whatever you configured in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:10.31 | daemonkeeper | Use a better mirror next to you. |
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| 17:10.53 | rindolf | daemonkeeper: there is none - my ISP sucks. |
| 17:11.07 | rindolf | daemonkeeper: I need to open several simultaneous connections to get a better speed. |
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| 17:11.23 | daemonkeeper | Yeah, no. That's not how TCP works. |
| 17:11.34 | rindolf | daemonkeeper: it does for me. :-P |
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| 17:11.40 | rindolf | daemonkeeper: tried it - it works. |
| 17:11.51 | rindolf | Don't ask me why, but it does - my ISP sucks. |
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| 17:13.34 | petn-randall | edju: KMS is kernel modesetting, which was one of the thing you were looking for. |
| 17:14.02 | fishcooker | socomm: "fishcooker: [not]/j #ubuntu anymore" :-D |
| 17:14.05 | rindolf | petn-randall: hi. |
| 17:14.27 | petn-randall | Hello rindolf! :) |
| 17:14.32 | socomm | rindolf: are you a bot? |
| 17:14.48 | rindolf | socomm: I hope I'm not. ;-) |
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| 17:14.53 | rindolf | petn-randall: what's up? |
| 17:15.14 | rindolf | socomm: I know petn-randall from a different channel. |
| 17:15.50 | petn-randall | rindolf: Doing fine, though I'm leaving here right now. See you in 30 mins in #perlcafe? |
| 17:16.00 | socomm | rindolf: unless your ISP has some messed up QoS rules opening up more connections will not make your internet go faster |
| 17:16.02 | rindolf | petn-randall: OK. |
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| 17:16.16 | socomm | rindolf: more connections is the inverse of speed |
| 17:16.39 | ctmjr | rindolf, if your trying to find a faster mirror use netselect-apt |
| 17:16.51 | rindolf | ctmjr: this mirror is the fastest - I'm sure of it. |
| 17:17.04 | rindolf | socomm: my ISP can have all kind of things that it refuses to admit. |
| 17:17.13 | socomm | rindolf: fair enough |
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| 17:17.17 | rindolf | socomm: I stopped believing its tech support people. |
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| 17:20.06 | boudiccas | what programme gives 'glib' please? how can i find out for future use please? |
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| 17:22.03 | rindolf | boudiccas: it's either glib-dev or libglib-dev or libglib2-dev or libglib2.0-dev or whatever. |
| 17:22.21 | boudiccas | ah, okay, thanks |
| 17:22.30 | rindolf | Wow! Apt-get is slow here. |
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| 17:22.37 | rindolf | boudiccas: you can use apt-cache search |
| 17:23.05 | boudiccas | rindolf; i did, but found nothing for 'glib' |
| 17:23.15 | rindolf | boudiccas: how strange. |
| 17:23.53 | johnfg | I'm running wheezy, installed on /dev/sdb. Anyone know of a way I can get update-grub(2) to recognize, and write out the information from /dev/sda where squeeze is installed? |
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| 17:24.25 | johnfg | update-grub sees windoze on /dev/sda and writes out that information, but not squeeze :-( |
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| 17:30.13 | jumperswitch | hi |
| 17:30.51 | jumperswitch | So when I use multistrap to make a new debian minimal system to run inside a lxc system container, the resulting system still makes some trouble. Is there some list of necessary modifications to be made on a Debian (Wheezy) system to make it run smoothly inside a lxc system container? |
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| 17:31.29 | jumperswitch | There is a lxc-create template script, but it is painful to read. Also it isn't a list but actually some snippets during some stuff on the target system. I am looking for something like a list. |
| 17:31.56 | jhutchins | jumperswitch: If you end up making your own you could post it somewhere. |
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| 17:33.10 | jumperswitch | jhutchins: yes, some points I already got, the hardware clock thing for example. But this fstab / fsck on /dev/vda1 thing during boot still bothers me |
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| 17:34.13 | jumperswitch | jhutchins: that lxc debian system got no fstab, and fstab.d is empty, too. But still fsck tries to check /dev/vda1 during boot (rather init because it is in a lxc container) and of course complains and gets into maintenance root console. |
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| 17:35.05 | jumperswitch | jhutchins: how comes that /dev/vda1 into system anyway? I thought those mounts are defined in the lxc container config. But it is empty yet. So why is it added to the system at all? |
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| 17:35.38 | jhutchins | jumperswitch: I meant to suggest that you might just be the expert on this. |
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| 17:36.42 | jumperswitch | jhutchins: I am stuck with this /dev/vda1 thing. How can I find out how fsck knows about it. |
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| 17:37.15 | ExeciN | when I press ctrl+alt+F1 I am getting a black screen. When I press ctrl+alt+F7 I get back to the GUI. Why do I get a black screen instead of tty1? |
| 17:38.04 | vimpulse | ExeciN: Hi. 1. Is Magic SysRQ enabled on your PC? 2. What does Magic SysRQ plus the question-mark key get you at the blank screen? |
| 17:38.39 | vimpulse | ExeciN: 3. Just curious -- what is your use case for wanting to use tty1 instead of an xterm? |
| 17:39.30 | ExeciN | correction, the monitor does not just turn black, it turns off |
| 17:40.07 | peterrooney | ExeciN: after going to tty1, try left-alt right-arrow a few times. If you have an xterm running, can you try "ps -ef f | grep tty1" to see if there's even anything there to display? |
| 17:40.11 | ExeciN | vimpulse: what is Magic SysRQ? When the gui is messed up I have to fix it through tty1 |
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| 17:41.14 | ExeciN | peterrooney: I get black, black, black... and suddenly GUI |
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| 17:41.45 | vimpulse | ExeciN: a special key combination which does powerful things. For example, while you are viewing tty7, MagicSysRQ+K normally will terminate Xorg and all running GUI applications. |
| 17:42.20 | vimpulse | ExeciN: I have disabled Ctrl+Alt+Backspace since it's too easy to press by accident. MagicSysRQ+K is harder to press by accident. |
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| 17:42.54 | vimpulse | ExeciN: Why does your GUI get messed up? |
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| 17:44.26 | asterismo | hi people |
| 17:44.36 | vimpulse | asterismo: hi :) |
| 17:44.39 | ExeciN | vimpulse: it does not but sometimes tty1 is needed, for example xorg needs to be stopped to install nvidia drivers |
| 17:44.44 | asterismo | does anybody runs a debian chroot in android? |
| 17:44.54 | vimpulse | asterismo: one moment please |
| 17:45.09 | asterismo | vimpulse, ok, standing by |
| 17:45.11 | vimpulse | !tell asterismo about anybody |
| 17:45.14 | boudiccas | what programme/file gives 'gksudo' please? |
| 17:45.27 | jordanm | ,file gksu |
| 17:45.31 | judd | Search for gksu in wheezy/i386: gksu: usr/bin/gksu, usr/share/menu/gksu; libgksu2-dev: usr/share/gtk-doc/html/libgksu |
| 17:45.33 | vimpulse | asterismo: I found the factoid I wanted. :) |
| 17:45.44 | boudiccas | oh! thanks |
| 17:45.46 | jordanm | boudiccas: I believe it's typically a symlink to gksu |
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| 17:46.34 | vimpulse | asterismo: do you understand what the factoid is advising you to do? |
| 17:47.46 | debian6666 | When I installed grub-install from live cd and used update-grub, restarted my system when still got grub error by 0.97, how solve this? I'm in the live cd now. |
| 17:48.04 | vimpulse | dear all: can anybody help ExeciN to figure out why his/her screen shuts off when s/he presses Ctrl+Alt+F1? |
| 17:48.33 | asterismo | vimpulse |
| 17:48.38 | asterismo | vimpulse, no |
| 17:48.44 | asterismo | factoid? |
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| 17:48.58 | debian6666 | see this http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8EVxravK |
| 17:49.57 | vimpulse | asterismo: what is your native language? |
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| 17:50.26 | vimpulse | debian6666: I had trouble understanding your question. What is your native language? |
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| 17:51.21 | debian6666 | i use lvm encrypted using debian wheezy, but grub have erro, and using live cd for recovery, i mount some lvm encrypted and try recovery |
| 17:51.23 | asterismo | vimpulse, spanish, but i understand english pretty well i guess |
| 17:51.42 | debian6666 | this is awser for grub-install http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8EVxravK |
| 17:51.44 | vimpulse | asterismo: come join me in #debian-es. |
| 17:51.52 | debian6666 | but when reboot this error persist |
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| 17:52.30 | debian6666 | anynone soluction for this? |
| 17:52.36 | xeon123 | I want to install xemacs in debian, but I cannot find it in the repos. What is the easiest way to install? |
| 17:53.22 | gandy909 | petn-randall: it worked like a charm. thx again |
| 17:53.31 | vimpulse | xeon123: why xemacs not emacs? |
| 17:53.39 | vimpulse | debian6666: I had trouble understanding your question. What is your native language? |
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| 17:53.57 | debian6666 | his is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map. Check if this is correct or not. If any of the lines is incorrect, fix it and re-run the script `grub-install' |
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| 17:55.00 | debian6666 | vimpulse: native is portuguese |
| 17:55.32 | xeon123 | vimpulse: I want to see if it is much better with auctex. |
| 17:55.38 | vimpulse | debian6666: Everybody is welcome to stay here. But if you ask in #debian-pt then maybe you will get a faster answer. |
| 17:56.17 | debian6666 | grub-install -v grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97) |
| 17:56.21 | frikinz | I do run a debian chroot in android |
| 17:56.25 | debian6666 | is possible update to grub 2? |
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| 17:57.11 | vimpulse | xeon123: what is bad in your auctex? |
| 17:57.39 | vimpulse | xeon123: I suspect that xemacs is not available in the Wheezy repositories. But I may be wrong. What Google search terms did you try already? |
| 17:57.48 | debian6666 | what package debian has grub-install? |
| 17:58.14 | arisv | vimpulse, there isn't. correct. |
| 17:58.19 | xeon123 | vimpulse: yes, it is not in squeeze. I want to write the latex tags faster. |
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| 17:59.31 | vimpulse | xeon123: squeeze? |
| 17:59.32 | asterismo | guys i need to set up a chroot environment in android, cyanogenmod 10.1.3, is there any popular tutorial around? i tried one and failed mounting some devices, proc, dev, etc... |
| 17:59.52 | vimpulse | xeon123: why are you using squeeze? |
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| 18:00.02 | xeon123 | vimpulse: I mean the latest version of debian. |
| 18:00.23 | vimpulse | xeon123: please -- cat /etc/debian_version |
| 18:00.57 | vimpulse | arisv: ah, thank you. I wonder if you might please update dpkg to know this, and to know why it's unavailable? |
| 18:01.25 | xeon123 | vimpulse: 7.1 |
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| 18:01.30 | Warp4 | debian6666, have you tried searching at http://packages.debian.org? |
| 18:01.32 | vimpulse | xeon123: ah, you are indeed on wheezy. |
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| 18:01.45 | Warp4 | is on 7.2 :) |
| 18:01.59 | vimpulse | xeon123: why would xemacs let you write latex tags faster than emacs? |
| 18:02.00 | frikinz | asterismo: did you already do your loop file? is it mounted and what error do you get with mounting devpts, proc and sysfs? |
| 18:02.01 | arisv | vimpulse, already updated. but I don't know the reason.. |
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| 18:02.21 | ExeciN | when I press ctrl+alt+F1 my screen turns off (not just black). When I press ctrl+alt+F7 I get back to the GUI. How can I fix what ctrl+alt+F1 should do? |
| 18:02.30 | vimpulse | !xemacs |
| 18:02.30 | dpkg | hmm... xemacs is http://www.xemacs.org or better than FSF emacs or bloatware like the original emacs. or an editor with a buttonbar not unlike MS Word or not as good as pure FSF emacs |
| 18:02.52 | vimpulse | arisv: the bot seems not to know even that xemacs is unavailable in Debian. |
| 18:02.55 | Warp4 | ExeciN, try using Ctrl-Alt-F2 instead |
| 18:02.58 | vimpulse | *in the Debian official repositories. |
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| 18:03.28 | ExeciN | Warp4: from F1 to F6 the screen stays off, F7 gets me back to GUI |
| 18:03.33 | asterismo | frikinz, i did what it says in comment #6, created the debian.img in my debian desktop and on the tablet did most of the commands http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312013 |
| 18:03.37 | arisv | vimpulse, sorry man, I didn't the bot tricks overthere. |
| 18:03.43 | frikinz | ExeciN: fglrx? |
| 18:03.46 | arisv | didn't know, even. |
| 18:03.51 | bbtech | If a new version of software is released, is it really 2 years before it will be available via aptitude? |
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| 18:04.09 | jelly-home | bbtech: draw your own conclusions: |
| 18:04.13 | jelly-home | !release history |
| 18:04.13 | dpkg | Debian releases are named after "Toy Story" characters. Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-03-09), Potato(2.2; 2000-08-15), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06), Etch(4.0; 2007-04-08), Lenny(5.0; 2009-02-14), Squeeze(6.0; 2011-02-06), Wheezy(7.0; 2013-05-04). The next release will be Jessie. http://debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-releases |
| 18:04.18 | asterismo | frikinz, the commands that did not run are the ones like mount -t proc none /proc and the otherones |
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| 18:04.47 | vimpulse | bbtech: which individual package do you feel you must upgrade sooner, if any? |
| 18:05.09 | frikinz | asterismo: mount -t devpts devpts /dev/pts ; mount -t proc proc /proc ; mount -t sysfs sysfs /sys |
| 18:05.18 | asterismo | yeah |
| 18:05.19 | ExeciN | frikinz: I used the sgfxi script before but I uninstalled nvidia's drivers and used dkms nvidia drivers |
| 18:05.27 | asterismo | it said something about resource busy... |
| 18:05.29 | vimpulse | bbtech: also, why do you feel you need newer software in general? |
| 18:05.39 | bbtech | vimpulse, I was looking at a patch that just got applied to x2go. It's still in their git repo so I suspect it will be a while before it hits their stable and then even longer before it hits debian stable. |
| 18:05.50 | bbtech | *a path that I want |
| 18:05.54 | bbtech | *patch |
| 18:05.55 | asterismo | now i'm trying to do as it says in comment #1 |
| 18:05.59 | frikinz | asterismo: maybe some things are already mounted? check with mount without parameters |
| 18:06.16 | vimpulse | bbtech: if you need that patch, you can backport x2go-git or x2go-release to Wheezy. |
| 18:06.22 | frikinz | asterismo: the line I gave is what I use for 2 chroots |
| 18:06.25 | vimpulse | bbtech: or maybe someone has already done so? |
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| 18:06.40 | bbtech | vimpulse, what does that mean to backport it? Install from source? |
| 18:07.07 | asterismo | frikinz, line I? |
| 18:07.09 | vimpulse | bbtech: that is one option. You can use GNU Stow to install it from source the clean way. Or, you can "backport" it. |
| 18:07.28 | vimpulse | bbtech: If you "backport" it, you end up with a .deb package which contains the exact version you want. |
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| 18:07.49 | vimpulse | bbtech: if you choose to use GNU Stow, then "sudo /usr/bin/apt-get build-dep x2go" will help you. |
| 18:08.19 | vimpulse | bbtech: what does the patch do? |
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| 18:09.03 | bbtech | vimpulse, allows me to connect to a specified monitor |
| 18:09.15 | vimpulse | bbtech: once the patch hits Debian Unstable, then it becomes much easier to backport the unstable package onto stable. |
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| 18:09.46 | bbtech | vimpulse, specifically, this patch: http://code.x2go.org/gitweb?p=x2goclient.git;a=commit;h=56785cbc26c68ff4704b347add58ea559956aa5f |
| 18:09.53 | frikinz | asterismo: you can have a look at my tutorial. it's easier if you install sshdroid with contains a specific busybox. there's also scripts to automate all http://bit.ly/1anBQla |
| 18:10.16 | bbtech | vimpulse, when does it hit unstable? is dependent on when x2go submits it? |
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| 18:10.35 | vimpulse | bbtech: x2go must release the patch into a release first. |
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| 18:12.10 | dancios | Hello how can i execute multiple instances of /usr/bin*elf applications limited to 50processes/threadas with diffrent parameters from python ? The queue is about 2000 possitions. what approach if possible linux/windows solution what libraries/python modules and how ? Tutorial/reference manual/examples |
| 18:12.15 | frikinz | ExeciN: then its not fglrx (ati). cause there's a long standing bug for ati cards which has the same symptoms. do you use gdm, kdm? |
| 18:12.23 | asterismo | frikinz, i followed your tutorial 2hrs ago and it failed in this command: chroot debian/ /debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage. I did it locally, moved the debian.img to the extSdCard and from terminal emulator |
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| 18:12.34 | bbtech | vimpulse, what is the process for back porting something? Not sure where to start (for something that is in unstable) |
| 18:12.40 | ExeciN | frikinz: no, I use xfce |
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| 18:13.16 | frikinz | frikinz: oops, I thinks its an error. wait :) |
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| 18:13.25 | vimpulse | bbtech: In short, here's the backporting process: 1. Configure apt-get to retrieve unstable source packages. 2. Use "apt-get source" to get x2go source from unstable. 3. Apply the patch. |
| 18:13.26 | vimpulse | bbtech: 4. Modify the changelog and version number. 5. Use "apt-get build-dep" to get x2go's dependencies. 6. Use debuild or similar to build a custom .deb for yourself. |
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| 18:13.33 | vimpulse | bbtech: 7. Install the .deb. |
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| 18:13.48 | vimpulse | bbtech: Elaboration on each of these steps can be found online, or you can ask us. |
| 18:14.16 | frikinz | asterismo: chroot debian/ /usr/sbin/debootstrap --second-stage # good spot. that's the new version of the tutorial, not fully tested :/ |
| 18:14.36 | bbtech | oh, I didn't realize apt-get source was an option. I've always just downloaded source manually and built it. |
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| 18:14.59 | asterismo | frikinz, that's the one you mentioned and i founded on the web |
| 18:15.09 | vimpulse | bbtech: you mean ./configure ; make ; sudo make install? |
| 18:15.17 | bbtech | vimpulse, yes, exactly |
| 18:15.25 | vimpulse | bbtech: that leaves a mess in your /usr/local. |
| 18:15.31 | vimpulse | bbtech: GNU Stow helps to manage the mess. |
| 18:15.34 | bbtech | vimpulse, yes, I try not to do it |
| 18:15.53 | bbtech | vimpulse, doesn't GNU stow just create a symlink to /usr/local/bin? |
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| 18:16.36 | vimpulse | bbtech: not quite. GNU Stow is complicated. When using GNU Stow, you pass a special argument to ./configure. Later, GNU Stow does fancy symlinking for you. |
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| 18:16.59 | vimpulse | bbtech: Stow is very worthwhile to use. |
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| 18:17.36 | frikinz | asterismo: its corrected. you can move on to the next bug :) |
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| 18:17.48 | verblendet | hi, i installed debian testing (jessie) and need python 2.6 for some reason. does anyone now of a package? (i know its old and insecure or so, but my application needs 2.6 and wont run with 2.7) |
| 18:17.58 | vimpulse | verblendet: what application? |
| 18:18.19 | verblendet | it doesnt matter ;-) |
| 18:18.25 | vimpulse | verblendet: why not? |
| 18:18.38 | Warp4 | vimpulse, because its probably a custom one |
| 18:18.53 | vimpulse | Warp4: there's no guarantee unless we find out from verblendet. :) |
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| 18:19.23 | verblendet | what Warp4 says :) its a self-compiled old patched blender |
| 18:19.26 | asterismo | frikinz, isn't suppose to be the envoronment set up before the debootstrap? like this guy? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5671794&postcount=124 |
| 18:19.31 | bbtech | vimpulse, thanks for the help. I now have plenty to read up on. :-) |
| 18:19.39 | vimpulse | bbtech: :) you're welcome. |
| 18:19.39 | verblendet | and i lost sources, otherwise i would try to recompile with 2.7 |
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| 18:19.46 | petn-randall | verblendet: testing and sid are supported on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, try your luck there. |
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| 18:20.07 | vimpulse | verblendet: you didn't send your sources back to upstream? :( |
| 18:20.07 | verblendet | thx |
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| 18:20.17 | vimpulse | verblendet: *your patches |
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| 18:20.39 | verblendet | vimpulse, nope, i just get patches from the tracker and applied that, ... patches that never came into blender |
| 18:21.02 | vimpulse | verblendet: so people submitted them to blender but blender never accepted them? |
| 18:21.04 | verblendet | no, not all, some where pushed by some users using my compilation *g |
| 18:21.12 | verblendet | vimpulse, lika that |
| 18:21.32 | r4ph431 | hi, I've this proble: grep -c emacs-goodies-el /var/lib/apt/lists/* == 0, (after apt-get update) but my sources.list is "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib". what's wrong ? |
| 18:21.41 | vimpulse | verblendet: you can fix the patches and try again to get them into upstream blender. :) |
| 18:22.00 | verblendet | and i have a blend file with massive python scripts, that wont run in 2.7, blender just says NO |
| 18:22.00 | Warp4 | r4ph431, try using ftp.us.debian.org |
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| 18:22.14 | vimpulse | verblendet: this might save you time in the long run. Do you know why? |
| 18:22.14 | vimpulse | verblendet: (note that I am biased in saying so) |
| 18:22.18 | r4ph431 | what index I should check on the ftp which should contains mention to emacs-goodies-el ? (this is an example, happens with other packages) |
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| 18:22.28 | verblendet | vimpulse, i used blender 2.37 to 2.49, now we have 2.6x which is a complete redesign of code too |
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| 18:22.49 | frikinz | asterismo: arg so it was correct. as I said, I suggest going through sshdroid. did you do so when following my tut? |
| 18:23.17 | asterismo | no, i'm doing it locally in the tablet, isn't the same? |
| 18:23.23 | verblendet | vimpulse, no, i dont save time with that for the reason above AND i just need to run the blend file once ;-) |
| 18:23.37 | asterismo | frikinz, no, i'm doing it locally in the tablet, isn't the same? |
| 18:23.48 | frikinz | asterismo: no, busybox has some oddities |
| 18:24.01 | r4ph431 | thx Warp4 , I'm going to try, but in order to check, isn't ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-all/Packages.bz2 the file expected to mention emacs-goodies-el ? |
| 18:24.03 | verblendet | vimpulse, and the patchwork story has gone over years |
| 18:24.12 | asterismo | frikinz, is that app openspurce? |
| 18:24.14 | verblendet | eh, for years |
| 18:24.21 | asterismo | frikinz, sshdroid |
| 18:24.32 | vimpulse | verblendet: you lose out on new features and bugfixes which are offered in new upstream Blender releases. |
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| 18:25.13 | asterismo | frikinz, with sshdroid i do it from the desktop pc right? |
| 18:25.15 | r4ph431 | Warp4: after update still "Package emacs-goodies-el is not available" |
| 18:25.40 | r4ph431 | there's something wrong with my apt-get update, but I don't know what ? |
| 18:26.08 | verblendet | vimpulse, yeah, but for some reason i want 'my' old blender back... you know ;-) ... i use blender 2.6 on a regular basis, but... the big BUT :) |
| 18:26.16 | r4ph431 | that's why I try to understand why this mention does not appear in /var/lib/apt/ |
| 18:27.03 | r4ph431 | could anyone grep -c emacs-goodies-el /var/lib/apt/lists/* == 0, (after apt-get update) |
| 18:27.14 | r4ph431 | (without -c) |
| 18:27.30 | Warp4 | r4ph431, funny i found it |
| 18:27.42 | r4ph431 | which file please |
| 18:28.20 | frikinz | asterismo: the point is to get a shell through ssh. either locally on the tablet or better from a remote pc yes (who likes doing developpment on a tablet..) |
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| 18:28.22 | Warp4 | r4ph431, download it from http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/emacs-goodies-el |
| 18:28.33 | r4ph431 | I've the same issue with sphinxsearch |
| 18:28.39 | r4ph431 | and probably some other |
| 18:28.40 | verblendet | hmmm, comoiling python cant be that hard, i guess thats the easiest way to do it - maybe |
| 18:28.51 | Warp4 | r4ph431, if you cant find it with apt, search for it on packages.debian.org |
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| 18:28.57 | r4ph431 | Warp4: I'm missing some packages without knowing why |
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| 18:29.01 | vimpulse | r4ph431: why are you on Debian Testing? |
| 18:29.04 | r4ph431 | yes |
| 18:29.19 | r4ph431 | (lsb_release -a) |
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| 18:29.53 | asterismo | frikinz, but you say that busybox in the tablet has some oddities... does sshdroid has it's own busybox? or what? |
| 18:30.01 | r4ph431 | oups, misread, because the need of some specific package' versions |
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| 18:30.34 | vimpulse | r4ph431: which packages do you need upgraded versions of? |
| 18:31.41 | r4ph431 | vimpulse: apache, mysql & co ... I had a wheezy iso, install => switch sources.list => update => upgrade |
| 18:32.01 | r4ph431 | now I'm using jessie, but some packages are missing |
| 18:32.03 | vimpulse | verblendet: if you compile Python yourself, make sure to install GNU Stow, and to tell Python to compile itself for installation into your Stow prefix. |
| 18:32.04 | TechLover | hi every one ! Im looking for a tool to see changes in file system just like git status do for source code, also metadata. I even dont know the terms to look after. I have found inode is this the one way to achive ? |
| 18:32.05 | r4ph431 | I want to know why |
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| 18:32.23 | vimpulse | r4ph431: why do you need newer Apache and MySQL? |
| 18:32.24 | mumpitze1 | r4ph431: which ones are missing? |
| 18:32.31 | r4ph431 | why apt-get update didn't fetch the file which contains the mention to emacs-goodies-el (for example) |
| 18:32.31 | vimpulse | r4ph431: :) |
| 18:32.35 | Warp4 | r4ph431, and why did you upgrade THAT way? |
| 18:32.41 | mumpitze1 | ,v emacs-goodies-el |
| 18:32.42 | judd | Package: emacs-goodies-el on i386 -- squeeze: 34.1; wheezy: 35.2+nmu1; jessie: 35.4; sid: 35.4 |
| 18:33.02 | r4ph431 | Warp4: because this should not hurt, and because I had no iso of testing |
| 18:33.06 | vimpulse | TechLover: hi :) Why do you want this? |
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| 18:33.17 | r4ph431 | but it may have been a mistake from a bandwidth perspective |
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| 18:33.30 | r4ph431 | well, anyway I don't believe this could cause the issue |
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| 18:33.44 | Warp4 | does your machine have the capability to run virtual machines? |
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| 18:33.56 | r4ph431 | yes, why ? |
| 18:34.20 | r4ph431 | no please... I just want to get my missing packages :) |
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| 18:34.30 | r4ph431 | and need to find out why I don't get them in the listing |
| 18:34.30 | petn-randall | Warp4: installing stable and then upgrading to testing is the recommended why, btw. The testing installer is actually the beta of 'debian-installer', which has it's own problems. |
| 18:34.36 | frikinz | TechLover: errmm.. use... git? like this package does http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=etckeeper |
| 18:34.42 | vimpulse | dear all: I think I shall leave in a bit. But -- how have I been doing as a tech supporter today? |
| 18:35.07 | vimpulse | Criticism welcome. |
| 18:35.26 | Warp4 | petn-randall, i wouldnt run a testing version unless i had a VM to test it in first |
| 18:35.28 | Warp4 | juist me i guess |
| 18:35.47 | r4ph431 | it's just my personal machine |
| 18:35.59 | TechLover | frikinz: thanks, I have read about it, I will study more. |
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| 18:36.08 | r4ph431 | I just can't understand why I don't get the expected index files |
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| 18:36.50 | icesword | hello |
| 18:37.03 | icesword | how can i install gnome desktop |
| 18:37.08 | r4ph431 | just this simple question: which file from /var/lib/apt/ contains emacs-goodies-el, and which file from ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/ contains emacs-goodies-el |
| 18:37.15 | vimpulse | icesword: hi :) how did you install Debian? |
| 18:37.17 | Warp4 | icesword, its installed by default in debian |
| 18:37.18 | petn-randall | r4ph431: Take this to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, I'll help you there. |
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| 18:37.30 | icesword | ok |
| 18:37.39 | vimpulse | petn-randall: r4ph431: thank you. :) |
| 18:37.46 | Warp4 | icesword, you using debian or *untu? |
| 18:37.53 | r4ph431 | thank you vimpulse |
| 18:38.04 | vimpulse | r4ph431: you're welcome. |
| 18:38.17 | icesword | ubuntu now |
| 18:38.22 | icesword | ：0 |
| 18:38.26 | Warp4 | icesword, ask in #ubuntu |
| 18:38.27 | TechLover | vimpulse: I want to keep my system, for example I end up with lot of rabish files around, and purging packakes some times let stuff beind "not empty not removed" |
| 18:38.32 | Warp4 | icesword, you might get a better response there |
| 18:38.49 | r4ph431 | but I didn't yet get the simple answer I need to troubleshoot my issue... one URL and one filepath :p |
| 18:39.50 | vimpulse | Warp4: wow! I was wondering what was going on with icesword's question. Your intuition made an excellent guess there, and it was 100% correct. |
| 18:40.05 | vimpulse | icesword: why use ubuntu? |
| 18:40.46 | icesword | okk my roomate is using it |
| 18:40.59 | icesword | ：o |
| 18:41.19 | vimpulse | icesword: Ubuntu has many good things going for it. But Debian includes better IRC support. :) Try #ubuntu or, better yet, <www.askubuntu.com>. |
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| 18:41.44 | vimpulse | icesword: Or ##linux. |
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| 18:42.10 | frikinz | what is a good dlna client? |
| 18:42.15 | r4ph431 | could anyone post me the output of $ grep -r emacs-goodies-el /var/lib/apt/* # to know which index file contains this package |
| 18:42.22 | vimpulse | frikinz: what's your use case? |
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| 18:42.46 | frikinz | vimpulse: sending to a dlna box that has a speaker |
| 18:42.51 | verblendet | TechLover, tripwire maybe, but NOT realtime |
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| 18:43.06 | frikinz | vimpulse: I usually use amarok, not sure if it has something |
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| 18:43.24 | vimpulse | frikinz: no clue. |
| 18:43.25 | vimpulse | dear all? ^ |
| 18:43.38 | r4ph431 | could anyone tell me why GET ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/binary-all/Packages.bz2|bunzip2|grep emacs-goodies-el makes no mention to the package (except a "Suggest") |
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| 18:44.00 | GiBa | hello world |
| 18:44.04 | vimpulse | hi :) |
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| 18:44.22 | ping__ | hello |
| 18:44.31 | GiBa | i mad a bugfix on some code |
| 18:44.34 | frikinz | r4ph431: removed from testing http://packages.qa.debian.org/e/emacs-goodies-el.html |
| 18:44.41 | GiBa | and i was reading about packaging on debian |
| 18:44.58 | vimpulse | GiBa: please do not press Enter until the end of your sentence. :) |
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| 18:45.28 | r4ph431 | wow frikinz ! |
| 18:45.32 | r4ph431 | I'm dumb... |
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| 18:45.48 | r4ph431 | same for http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/sphinxsearch.html... |
| 18:45.52 | r4ph431 | wtf ? |
| 18:45.55 | DammitJim | I have a thousand ssh connections, how do I disconnect a session at a time? |
| 18:46.03 | TechLover | verblendet: thanks, Im reading about him, etckeeper looks nice becouse of simplicity |
| 18:46.24 | GiBa | and i found that there are several ways to do the same, to get a .deb with the patch applied. im not sure wich one to use. should i use quilt ? |
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| 18:46.53 | verblendet | TechLover, tripqire is easy, but very "ressource-hungry" |
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| 18:47.41 | frikinz | GiBa: isn't the software already packaged? |
| 18:47.47 | frikinz | GiBa: in debian |
| 18:48.10 | GiBa | yes, i apt-get source first, then went into src and patched |
| 18:48.38 | frikinz | GiBa: wasn't there a directory patches? or patch? can't remember |
| 18:48.51 | Warp4 | DammitJim, I usually do that by killing the shell for the SSH session I want to terminate |
| 18:48.52 | GiBa | let me see |
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| 18:50.46 | DammitJim | Warp4, this is a third party ssh'ing into one of our servers |
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| 18:50.57 | DammitJim | they normally come in and do stuff and then disconnect |
| 18:51.04 | r4ph431 | thx all, frikinz, petn-randall and Warp4 for trying to help me and being so patient on such a dump issue. |
| 18:51.08 | DammitJim | but for some reason, they are all connected and not giving up the connection |
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| 18:55.31 | GiBa | yes there is a patches directory inside debian/ |
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| 18:55.55 | GiBa | should i diff original source and mine then put the diff in there ? |
| 18:56.02 | GiBa | or use a tool that does that ? |
| 18:56.31 | GiBa | my real question is actually, what documentation should i use for doing this |
| 18:56.34 | GiBa | :) |
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| 19:01.00 | frikinz | GiBa: yes, there might be a documentation. I do it manually.this might be helpful also: http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/07/04/how-to-prepare-patches-for-debian-packages/ |
| 19:01.30 | asterismo | frikinz, are you there? |
| 19:01.34 | frikinz | asterismo: yes |
| 19:01.39 | GiBa | thanks frikinz |
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| 19:02.07 | asterismo | frikinz, i issued the command chroot debian/ /debootstrap/debootstrap --second-stage through sshdroid and is installing core packages and stuff |
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| 19:02.32 | frikinz | asterismo: so.. looks good till now? |
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| 19:03.24 | asterismo | frikinz, yes. BTW, can i uninstall sshdroid after it finishes right? i see the app has ads and i like mostly have opensource apps installed. I think this app might be the case |
| 19:03.26 | frikinz | asterismo: the only sliiightly tricky part might be about the script to automate all and not mix directories. |
| 19:03.56 | asterismo | frikinz, i have the debian.img in an external sd card |
| 19:04.05 | frikinz | asterismo: last time I checked it was the best ssh server. the add don't show over ssh.. |
| 19:04.21 | asterismo | so my route is /extSdCard/debian-custom.img |
| 19:04.26 | DammitJim | tcp 0 0 ftpserver:55686 dcs.rorp.com:ssh ESTABLISHED |
| 19:04.37 | frikinz | asterismo: but yes, you can, its not needed afterwards for the debian chroot |
| 19:04.50 | DammitJim | does that line mean I have something connecting from my server to dcs.rorp.com or dcs.rorp.com is connecting to my server? |
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| 19:05.49 | frikinz | DammitJim: the first line is a header and should tell you. local:localport remote:remoteport |
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| 19:05.58 | zykotick9 | off hand does anyone know, in order to manually select a GPT partition table, does one need to use expert install (the drive is <3TB)? and i'm only seeing "create new empty partition" but not a MSDOS/GPT selection in regular install. |
| 19:06.05 | frikinz | DammitJim: so ftpserver is connected to dcs on its ssh port |
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| 19:07.34 | Warp4 | zykotick9, why you want to use GPT under Linux? |
| 19:08.14 | Warp4 | IIRC GPT is a Windoze thing only |
| 19:08.30 | asterismo | frikinz, great. what lines should i change to work with my img file? /extSdCard/debian-custom.img |
| 19:08.40 | zykotick9 | Warp4: it's only a 250GB drive, but i much prefer having nice sda1 sda2 sda3 etc. versus the jump created with Extended/Logical. |
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| 19:09.57 | asterismo | frikinz, my image file is in the external sd card (ntfs formatted) because the image file is 16gb size |
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| 19:10.10 | zykotick9 | Warp4: gpt is unrelated to Windows ;) |
| 19:10.29 | Warp4 | zykotick9, then why is it only windows needs its? :) |
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| 19:10.39 | frikinz | asterismo: actually, the end of the tuto assumes that you still have sshdroid as it still uses the busybox provided by sshdroid. you'll need to adapt it (probably setting the environment as you showed me on other post) |
| 19:10.57 | Warp4 | zykotick9, then again what the heck do i know. :) |
| 19:11.20 | zykotick9 | Warp4: actually it's used by default in Mac as well. but in order to support 3TB+ drives, you need it in gnu/linux as well... |
| 19:11.38 | Warp4 | zykotick9, guess im not that picky about that "jump" because I dont really pay much attention to it |
| 19:11.52 | asterismo | frikinz, so, sould i cancel the second-stage debootstrap? |
| 19:11.57 | Warp4 | zykotick9, hmm funny guess the newer kernel has gpt support built it |
| 19:12.06 | Warp4 | then again i dont build custom kernels anymore either :) |
| 19:12.15 | Warp4 | and i can't type worth crap today |
| 19:12.34 | rryoumaa | i have a drive i want to be able to do compression and scrubbing (data integrity) on. i don't really want to download any kernel modules from outside debian. should i use btrfs or zfs on fuse? |
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| 19:13.22 | frikinz | asterismo: no, independent. you'll need to adapt the script. 16GB for a debian system on a phone? o_O |
| 19:13.35 | asterismo | frikinz, so before the debootstrap command should i export what variables? |
| 19:14.00 | frikinz | asterismo: no idea, I use another method which is imho much simpler.. |
| 19:14.03 | asterismo | frikinz, it's a samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0 with 32gb external sd card, tablet |
| 19:14.06 | petn-randall | Warp4: GPT is highly recommended if you have UEFI, and has not as many limitations as MSDOS partition tables have. |
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| 19:14.25 | Warp4 | oh heh no UEFI here |
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| 19:14.43 | frikinz | asterismo: and you'll only need env var when you're not going through ssh! later then |
| 19:14.54 | ExeciN | when I press ctrl+alt+F1 my screen turns off (not just black). When I press ctrl+alt+F7 I get back to the GUI. How can I fix what ctrl+alt+F1 should do? |
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| 19:15.13 | mumpitze1 | ExeciN: what videocard and drivers? |
| 19:15.35 | CygniX | is there a repository for apache 2.4 for wheezy? |
| 19:15.59 | ExeciN | mumpitze1: I have 2 nvidia chipsets (I am using just one though) with dkms drivers |
| 19:16.15 | frikinz | asterismo: "Script to start your debian" . the script needs to be adapted so that $p/mount is effectively path_where_busybox_binary_are/mount . so only need to modify $p on the first 2 lines |
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| 19:16.42 | mumpitze1 | ExeciN: so maybe your console uses the other one? |
| 19:16.44 | asterismo | frikinz, but the initial debootstrap is the same right? |
| 19:16.47 | frikinz | asterismo: it's easy if you take the time to understand. |
| 19:16.59 | frikinz | asterismo: yes :) |
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| 19:17.29 | ExeciN | mumpitze1: how can I find out and how can I make it use the right one? |
| 19:17.46 | mumpitze1 | ExeciN: lspci -nn. which ones do you have? |
| 19:17.53 | frikinz | asterismo: my debian on my laptop is 13GB so 16GB for a debian in a phone is.. insane |
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| 19:18.28 | zykotick9 | Warp4: fyi, i used expert - and it gives the gpt option. guess the regular install only uses GPT when "required" :( |
| 19:18.38 | CygniX | I can't seem to find anything on Wheezy and apache 2.4. 2.2.2 does not support forward secrecy |
| 19:18.44 | brita_ | i've just made a fresh install, but i can't boot. I see 2 screens, with the desktop brand and then saying something like "intel firmware", after that, I get an all black screen with a "_" . I can't type in it. |
| 19:18.49 | brita_ | Any suggestions? |
| 19:19.10 | mumpitze1 | brita_: what videocard(s)? |
| 19:19.11 | somiaj | ,v apache2 |
| 19:19.12 | judd | Package: apache2 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze10; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; wheezy: 2.2.22-13; jessie: 2.4.6-3; sid: 2.4.6-3 |
| 19:19.29 | brita_ | mumpitze1: I've no idea :-/ |
| 19:19.35 | somiaj | CygniX: you could backport it from jessie, but it won't have security support. |
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| 19:19.58 | brita_ | it's a new machine they've given me. i don't know the hardware, it's a desktop, could be anything |
| 19:20.11 | CygniX | .backport |
| 19:20.16 | mumpitze1 | brita_: BIOS should tell you. or your debian install medium |
| 19:20.17 | CygniX | :) |
| 19:20.21 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 19:20.22 | somiaj | CygniX: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 19:20.44 | ExeciN | mumpitze1: http://pastebin.com/S9Dw6QiU |
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| 19:21.09 | brita_ | mumpitze1: how? |
| 19:21.23 | mumpitze1 | ExeciN: laptop? |
| 19:21.37 | mumpitze1 | brita_: in your debian install medium, press ctrl+alt+f2 and run lspci -nn |
| 19:22.01 | ExeciN | mumpitze1: yes |
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| 19:23.19 | brita_ | mumpitze1: i'll need a moment, it's different now. the cd loaded my install |
| 19:23.38 | frikinz | I've also blank screens on vtx unless I restart my kdm. I use ati so I wonder if its not an xorg problem |
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| 19:26.07 | CygniX | somiaj: still not sure which repository |
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| 19:28.34 | DammitJim | frikinz, thanks, I couldn't see the header (didn't think of it) because there were 1000 connections |
| 19:28.42 | jvidal | Hola |
| 19:29.15 | jvidal | español? |
| 19:29.29 | jvidal | mandarin, arameo? |
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| 19:30.30 | Sary | !es |
| 19:30.30 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 19:30.31 | icesword | hhe seems i have installed gnome |
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| 19:33.52 | asterismo | frikinz, i'm issuing this command |
| 19:33.55 | asterismo | frikinz, echo debian > debian/etc/debian_chroot |
| 19:34.05 | asterismo | frikinz, right? |
| 19:34.33 | asterismo | frikinz, the ~/.bashrc: setup goes all the same as in your post? |
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| 19:35.06 | CygniX | I am quite new to .deb and seem a little lost to be honest |
| 19:35.24 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: sid deb-src repositors, not "deb" |
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| 19:36.15 | CygniX | mumpitze1: but wich repository? |
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| 19:36.18 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: you have a "main" line for debian wheezy. replace wheezy with sid, and "deb" at the beginning of the line with "deb-src". then you download sources from sid to be able to build them |
| 19:36.25 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: the repo you already use |
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| 19:36.39 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: show us beofre you update and install, just in case |
| 19:36.50 | CygniX | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.05 | mumpitze1 | the single sid line is enough |
| 19:39.22 | brita_ | mumpitze1: the video card is a radeon 6450. installing the drivers will solve this? |
| 19:39.41 | brita_ | it boots my installation from the cd. |
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| 19:42.27 | frikinz | asterismo: yep |
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| 19:43.04 | frikinz | asterismo: this is all small tweakings but knowing that you are in your chroot and not ouside will prevent from doing stupid things |
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| 19:43.18 | CygniX | mumpitze1: here is the new sources.list http://paste.debian.net/58012/ |
| 19:43.59 | CygniX | and then ran 'aptitude update' |
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| 19:45.15 | zykotick9 | CygniX: fyi when transitioning from stable->testing or testing->unstable you should be using apt-get, not aptitude. |
| 19:45.51 | TechPingu | How so? |
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| 19:47.18 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: there must be no "deb" line for sid. there is on line 1 however |
| 19:47.23 | J-2----- | I just got the message No EFI partition found during installation is this a problem? |
| 19:47.34 | somiaj | CygniX: you most like do not want to upgrade to testing for a web server. |
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| 19:47.55 | CygniX | somiaj: it is being done on virtualbox somiaj |
| 19:48.00 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: and you have no wheezy main repo anymore either. you changed too much |
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| 19:48.20 | somiaj | CygniX: make your own backport of the apache 2.4 if you need, that is enough of a security risk. Just compile it apache against the wheezy libs would be my suggestion |
| 19:48.21 | frikinz | zykotick9: do you have a source/link that explains why this advice of apt-get and not aptitude? |
| 19:48.21 | J-2----- | I never experienced this message when installing ubuntu so I'm just curious if this is an issue with debian |
| 19:48.23 | J-2----- | or if I can proceed |
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| 19:48.42 | somiaj | J-2-----: do you use UEFI or BIOS on your system? |
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| 19:48.57 | zykotick9 | !tell frikinz about wheezy->jessie |
| 19:49.00 | somiaj | some even have a bios fall back mode, it shoudln't be a problem if you are booting like a BIOS system |
| 19:49.31 | J-2----- | I honestly don't know somiaj |
| 19:49.33 | zykotick9 | frikinz: you need a dumb-hammer for such things ;) aptitude will typically "spaz out" |
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| 19:49.40 | J-2----- | sorry |
| 19:49.52 | J-2----- | I would assume bios |
| 19:50.33 | frikinz | zykotick9: yes sometimes the solver of aptitude ends up with strange things like proposing to uninstall the package you want to install. but I still use this most of the time |
| 19:50.36 | CygniX | mumpitze1: is this better http://paste.debian.net/58015/ ? |
| 19:50.37 | somiaj | J-2-----: some UEFI boards have a MBR compadablility mode. Again if you don't have UEFI then you don't need a EFI partition. |
| 19:50.57 | somiaj | J-2-----: I don't have to much experience but efi is beccoming more common on newer hardware |
| 19:51.15 | J-2----- | ah does it increase boot times? |
| 19:51.51 | CygniX | somiaj: are you suggesting just download apache directly and build the source? |
| 19:52.20 | frikinz | asterismo: still ok? :D |
| 19:52.42 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: no it's not. it's wrong. line 4 must not, MUST NOT, be there and line 5 is wrongly written: must start with deb-src instead |
| 19:52.43 | somiaj | CygniX: Yes, but I'm saying follow the instructions form '/msg dpkg ssb' so you build the source from jessie into a .deb package you can install on your wheezy system. |
| 19:52.54 | brita_ | how do I get out of the graphical mode so I can install the graphics drivers? |
| 19:53.01 | mumpitze1 | somiaj: you sure the depends make this feasible? |
| 19:53.13 | J-2----- | yeah it doesn't seem like I even have UEFI |
| 19:53.20 | J-2----- | i wonder what the benefits are |
| 19:53.21 | mumpitze1 | brita_: you can install it wihtout going outside X |
| 19:53.39 | somiaj | mumpitze1: I don't think apache 2.2 to 2.4 has changed on the depends that much |
| 19:53.43 | brita_ | just run as root and that's it? |
| 19:54.13 | somiaj | ,check-backport apache2 |
| 19:54.14 | judd | Backporting package apache2 in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libaprutil1-dev (>= 1.5.0). |
| 19:54.15 | CygniX | mumpitze1: both lines 4 and 5 must begin with 'deb-src' ? |
| 19:54.15 | mumpitze1 | brita_: xterm with root acces. restart X and it should ues the new one |
| 19:54.31 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: line 4 must not be there |
| 19:54.45 | CygniX | OK |
| 19:55.04 | somiaj | mumpitze1: I guess it won't. I'm surprised that wheezy can't build apache 2.4 though. |
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| 19:55.16 | somiaj | CygniX: guess it will require backporting a few packages. (: |
| 19:55.36 | zykotick9 | frikinz: day to day, i always turn to aptitude. but from stable->testing or testing->sid, i use the recommended apt-get. the release PRIOR to squeeze, actually recommended aptitude for the transitions between. |
| 19:55.41 | jhutchins | J-2-----: UEFI is mostly a benefit to the manufacturer, who has a more flexible system for dealing with the basic I/O. |
| 19:56.07 | CygniX | mumpitze1: hope this is correct now: http://paste.debian.net/58017/ |
| 19:56.08 | J-2----- | thanks |
| 19:56.27 | jhutchins | J-2-----: It's easier to update a component of the system rather than having to replace the whole system like you do when you flash a BIOS. |
| 19:56.45 | brita_ | mumpitze1: it won't install, says it is missing tools, doesn't say what |
| 19:56.49 | jhutchins | J-2-----: You can also do live updates easier than you can a BIOS. |
| 19:57.05 | CygniX | somiaj: you mean using sid, or building my own backport? |
| 19:57.15 | J-2----- | jhutchins: nice explanation thank you |
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| 19:58.01 | somiaj | CygniX: again I mean building your own backport. But it appears you have to backport some libaries as well such as libaprutil1 (from the apr-util source package) |
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| 20:00.12 | CygniX | somiaj: perhaps, I'll try that next |
| 20:00.13 | mumpitze1 | brita_: what are you actually doing? what command, what outputs, etc? |
| 20:00.29 | CygniX | mumpitze1: so what next, please? |
| 20:00.37 | mumpitze1 | you follow the ssb factoid |
| 20:00.56 | brita_ | just 'sh downloaded-driver.run' |
| 20:00.58 | brita_ | as root |
| 20:01.00 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: you are a t step 3 now |
| 20:01.22 | brita_ | are you sure this is the problem anyway? |
| 20:01.22 | mumpitze1 | brita_: that will break your debian and we will not support it. we don't support amd/nvidia downloads from their website |
| 20:01.54 | mumpitze1 | brita_: nvidia or amd? |
| 20:01.59 | brita_ | amd |
| 20:02.07 | mumpitze1 | !tell brita_ about fglrx dkms |
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| 20:02.18 | brita_ | i have the default mesa stuff |
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| 20:02.35 | mumpitze1 | fglrx doesn't use mesa |
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| 20:03.08 | Levitator | AMD drivers sucked when I tried them because their legacy support is lousy. |
| 20:03.32 | Levitator | Legacy meaning anything that isn't current generation. |
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| 20:03.51 | brita_ | well, it's the machine i was given, i would also prefer nvidia |
| 20:04.30 | Levitator | They needed a stupid daemon just to keep the machine from locking up on suspend. |
| 20:04.34 | mumpitze1 | brita_: Levitator just recounts some useless anecdotal "evidence" |
| 20:04.37 | CygniX | mumpitze1: 'aptitude build-dep apache2'? |
| 20:04.50 | TechPingu | ah we're at the video card bashing stage, okay |
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| 20:04.54 | TechPingu | walks away |
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| 20:05.05 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: you will need to build libaprutil-dev first |
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| 20:05.35 | brita_ | well.. mumpitze1 is this my problem anyway? graphics drivers? |
| 20:06.51 | CygniX | mumpitze1: done. now to apache, do I specicy version? |
| 20:07.11 | mumpitze1 | no |
| 20:07.23 | mumpitze1 | do you have libaprutil-dev package and have it installed? |
| 20:07.49 | CygniX | oops |
| 20:09.36 | CygniX | mumpitze1: "E: Unable to locate package libaprutil-dev" |
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| 20:10.06 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: what command? |
| 20:10.19 | TechPingu | does your sources.list contain the right repo? |
| 20:10.20 | CygniX | 'apt-get install libaprutil-dev" |
| 20:10.42 | CygniX | here is the source list http://paste.debian.net/58017/ |
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| 20:11.44 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: you can't do that. you need to BUILD libaprutil-dev first |
| 20:11.56 | mumpitze1 | staring by downloading the source for it, then building, then installing |
| 20:12.29 | mumpitze1 | so you load build-deps for it in step 3 |
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| 20:14.38 | CygniX | mumpitze1: 'aptitude search libaprutil-dev' no result |
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| 20:16.22 | mumpitze1 | you aren't supposed to search, you are supposed to download the sources for it. via the apt-get source command |
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| 20:18.24 | CygniX | is my source.list missing something? because 'apt-get source libaprutil-dev' can't find it |
| 20:18.40 | TechPingu | well |
| 20:18.49 | TechPingu | which version of debian are you running |
| 20:18.55 | CygniX | wheezy |
| 20:19.07 | LtL | CygniX: you need a separate deb src line |
| 20:19.14 | alexp_sssup | hi everyone. Do you have any advice on how to package two source tarballs together if one of them needs to be unpacked in a non-empty subdirectory? The regular .orig-component.tar solution does not work since I need the component unpacked in an already populated subdirectory. |
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| 20:19.59 | LtL | CygniX: e.g. deb-src http:// etc |
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| 20:20.12 | CygniX | LtL: I dont want to spam with links but out of necessity here is the source.list http://paste.debian.net/58017/ |
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| 20:20.37 | mumpitze1 | LtL: he already has |
| 20:20.42 | LtL | CygniX: yeah, that should be fine |
| 20:20.52 | Owner | has debian moved to MariaDB yEt |
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| 20:23.43 | CygniX | mumpitze1: 'libaprutil1-dev' ? |
| 20:24.23 | CygniX | OK that worked |
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| 20:24.37 | cusco | Owner: I don't think so |
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| 20:24.57 | cusco | !mariadb |
| 20:24.58 | dpkg | MariaDB is a community-developed fork of <MySQL>, intended to be a backward compatible drop-in replacement. Not in Debian, <ITP> in bug #565308; third-party packages are not supported in #debian. http://mariadb.org/ #maria on irc.freenode.net. |
| 20:25.02 | Owner | cusco, k |
| 20:25.31 | Owner | dotdeb repo has it, was wondering if it was official yet :( |
| 20:25.44 | Owner | i guess i can use sqlite for this anyway |
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| 20:26.05 | DammitJim | when one kills a process, does it automatically release file handles? |
| 20:26.08 | cusco | you can use mysql |
| 20:26.12 | cusco | and upgrade when suitable |
| 20:26.22 | petn-randall | DammitJim: Depends on how you kill it. |
| 20:26.25 | Owner | i really shouldnt |
| 20:26.39 | Owner | i think sqlite or something smaller will be better for a low mem system |
| 20:26.39 | DammitJim | petn-randall, kill -9 or killall :D |
| 20:26.42 | cusco | well thats up to you |
| 20:26.58 | DammitJim | which one would release them gracefully? |
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| 20:27.28 | C00re | -9 is not really graceful, is it? |
| 20:27.52 | Owner | least graceful |
| 20:27.57 | ompaul | -15 might be more gracefully |
| 20:28.03 | ixela | kill -12 is more graceful than -9 |
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| 20:28.22 | Owner | onlything less graceful that -9 is sysrq the entire system :P |
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| 20:28.33 | ompaul | man kill whole system, ... |
| 20:28.52 | ixela | even kill -sigterm |
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| 20:28.58 | C00re | kill -l -9 as root! :) |
| 20:29.05 | C00re | no.. dont do that |
| 20:29.08 | Owner | kill -9 1 ? |
| 20:29.13 | DammitJim | so, which one would release the file handles? |
| 20:29.25 | Owner | what is -l |
| 20:29.26 | DammitJim | there is a developer here that claims I won't get those file handles back |
| 20:29.30 | cusco | kill -9 -1 |
| 20:29.41 | Owner | why -l or -1 ??? |
| 20:29.42 | DammitJim | and if I restart the program, I'll still have the "too many files opened" problem |
| 20:29.47 | DammitJim | and that I can only do a reboot |
| 20:29.57 | cusco | kill -L -- List the available signal choices in a nice table. |
| 20:30.00 | rryoumaa | DammitJim: why would linux be designed /that/ way? |
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| 20:30.10 | DammitJim | rryoumaa, what way? |
| 20:30.16 | C00re | oj, sorry -1 i meant, not -l |
| 20:30.16 | rryoumaa | that way |
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| 20:30.22 | DammitJim | which way? |
| 20:30.27 | Owner | hmmm |
| 20:30.32 | Owner | i was saying kill -9 1 (init) |
| 20:30.47 | cusco | C00re: was saying -9 -1 |
| 20:30.56 | cusco | kill all you can kill with signal 9 |
| 20:31.11 | ixela | DammitJim: you can extend the amount of open files by changing the limit. It does not require a reboot. |
| 20:31.21 | DammitJim | ixela, I know I can do that |
| 20:31.24 | cusco | DammitJim: what program is this? |
| 20:31.40 | ixela | so if the dev is already claiming things that don't make sense, I'd not trust them to start making sense suddenly. |
| 20:31.41 | DammitJim | my point is about restarting the program with all things being equal |
| 20:31.56 | DammitJim | LOL... this is exactly why I'm trying to help him |
| 20:32.03 | DammitJim | he has no clue how things work |
| 20:32.11 | ixela | if you send a sigterm, it will ask the program to gracefully shutdown. It can choose to ignore that and keep going |
| 20:32.29 | DammitJim | so far, I think he needs to review his code and set up the timeout properly when an ssh connection is not getting what it needs |
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| 20:32.31 | ixela | note that SIGHUP is a way to alleviate memory leaks |
| 20:32.36 | DammitJim | actually, it's not his code, it's the other guy that left |
| 20:32.53 | ixela | so, since it can alleviate memory leaks it most likely also closes and reopens files. |
| 20:32.56 | DammitJim | cusco, home grown |
| 20:33.17 | DammitJim | the way I understand it, the system would free up those file handles |
| 20:33.24 | ixela | unless this process doesn't respond to sighup, sigterm, or sigint. |
| 20:34.00 | DammitJim | how can one have over 1000 established ssh connections??!! |
| 20:34.08 | DammitJim | I think the limit per user is 1024 |
| 20:34.13 | DammitJim | default on this system |
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| 20:34.21 | ixela | thats a LOT of open ssh connections. |
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| 20:34.45 | DammitJim | yeah, and why the heck is the program not closing them?! |
| 20:34.47 | ixela | perhaps this application needs to be ported to using pdsh or something of that nature that is better able to cope with lots of connections |
| 20:34.49 | DammitJim | anyways, sorry for venting |
| 20:35.01 | Owner | grawr |
| 20:35.04 | cusco | also one can re-use ssh connections |
| 20:35.05 | CygniX | mumpitze1: http://paste.debian.net/58036/ |
| 20:35.19 | jhutchins | DammitJim: Sounds like a brute force attack. The connections will linger until they time out. |
| 20:35.19 | DammitJim | bottom line is... the OS would free up those file handles |
| 20:35.21 | cusco | lsof can give you a insight of what handles are being used |
| 20:35.36 | jhutchins | DammitJim: Running sshd on 22? |
| 20:35.41 | ixela | DammitJim: yes, killing it gracefully would free the file handles. killing it ungracefully may not. |
| 20:35.42 | DammitJim | cusco, lsof -p <pid> is what I used |
| 20:35.53 | cusco | what if it forks? |
| 20:35.59 | DammitJim | jhutchins, no, the crazy thing is that the application running on this server is the one establishing the SSH connection to another server |
| 20:36.29 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: so? |
| 20:36.39 | CygniX | hope that looks normal |
| 20:37.02 | jhutchins | DammitJim: Sounds like something's not working correctly. |
| 20:37.23 | DammitJim | +1 and AMEN |
| 20:37.25 | mumpitze1 | CygniX: sure |
| 20:38.10 | DammitJim | I need to find out what else this app does, but it seems that it establishes an ssh connection and then through a tunnel, it copies files or something |
| 20:38.14 | J-2----- | I deleted my ubuntu partition and installed debian 7.2 stable... installation completes... and i get error: no such partition \ grub rescue =\ |
| 20:38.26 | petn-randall | DammitJim: Read the man page to kill and the signals. -9 isn't a signal at all. |
| 20:38.48 | petn-randall | J-2-----: Sounds like you didn't install grub at the end of the Debian installation. |
| 20:39.04 | J-2----- | is there a boot-repair? |
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| 20:39.35 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 20:39.35 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. Also works for EFI! |
| 20:39.49 | J-2----- | thanks |
| 20:39.51 | J-2----- | =\ |
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| 20:40.03 | ixela | -9 is short hand for sigkill |
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| 20:41.12 | gandy909 | petn-randall: it worked like a charm. thx again |
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| 20:42.25 | asterismo | frikinz, imstalling vnc and lxde |
| 20:43.00 | petn-randall | gandy909: You're welcome :) |
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| 20:44.29 | J-2----- | can I just use boot-repair via the ubuntu live cd and install grub that way |
| 20:44.38 | frikinz | asterismo: ok looks good :) |
| 20:45.11 | frikinz | asterismo: vnc on a tablet might be not so practical |
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| 20:47.35 | brita_ | how do i get kde for debian? |
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| 20:48.20 | ompaul | brita_: you can install it directly by downloading the kde install directory, or you should tell us if you have already installed debian |
| 20:48.24 | TechPingu | sudo apt-get install kde ? |
| 20:49.25 | brita_ | what's the difference between apt-get and aptitude? |
| 20:49.50 | bullgard4 | brita_: These are alternative programs. |
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| 20:50.15 | TechPingu | interface |
| 20:50.18 | TechPingu | primarily |
| 20:50.20 | bullgard4 | Fullfilling roughly the same purpose. |
| 20:50.44 | peterrooney | apt-get tries to do what you tell it. aptitude tries to do what it thinks you want. |
| 20:50.54 | TechPingu | and if you want to remove stuff it's better to use aptitude |
| 20:51.02 | TechPingu | since it automaticall removes dependancies etc. |
| 20:51.07 | brita_ | well, neither is working. they say package kde is not available |
| 20:51.08 | TechPingu | while apt-get needs aditional commands |
| 20:51.43 | TechPingu | https://wiki.debian.org/KdeDebInstall |
| 20:52.12 | brita_ | yes, i've done that. it says kde is not available |
| 20:52.30 | ompaul | brita_: this is what you really want plasma-desktop |
| 20:52.41 | brita_ | (but is referred to by another package) |
| 20:53.10 | ompaul | brita_: unless a notebook in which case change desktop to notebook |
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| 20:53.25 | brita_ | what? |
| 20:53.34 | brita_ | i'm using a desktop |
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| 20:54.36 | icesword | test |
| 20:55.01 | ompaul | brita_: apt-get install plasma-desktop <<<< that there will do it for you to check what I said do apt-cache search plasma-desktop |
| 20:55.13 | icesword | ompaul, huh? |
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| 20:55.38 | ompaul | icesword: just talking to brita_ |
| 20:56.07 | icesword | ompaul, i remember you |
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| 20:57.21 | brita_ | ompaul: it's doing things now |
| 20:57.36 | brita_ | what's wrong with "kde" instead of plasma desktop |
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| 20:58.28 | ompaul | brita_: nnow you are installing the packages needed for kde |
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| 20:59.00 | brita_ | after i still need to install 'kde' and 'xorg'? |
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| 20:59.09 | ompaul | brita_: no |
| 20:59.37 | ompaul | kde is not a package name the space and stuff needed on a desktop vs a laptop are different so it is easier to address it that way |
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| 21:00.12 | ompaul | (which is more of a guess as I didn't make the decision but seems close enough to reality to be rational) |
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| 21:01.48 | jhutchins | Generally -notebook installs more pm and suspend stuff. |
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| 21:03.27 | Racqueteering | Whats your favorite window manager? |
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| 21:03.58 | Racqueteering | for debian obviously |
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| 21:04.06 | jordanm | kwin |
| 21:04.19 | jhutchins | Racqueteering: screen |
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| 21:04.40 | Racqueteering | jhutchins: What do you think of tmux? |
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| 21:07.57 | brita_ | is it possible to configure debian to login by tty and startx only if i say so? |
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| 21:08.10 | oktr | hi my system always reboot and i can find in the syslog mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) Oct 14 18:55:10 debian kernel: [ 7.199979] input: Power Button as how can i stop the rebooting and checking the HD ,as i set FSCKFIX=no |
| 21:08.16 | oktr | how can i stop it |
| 21:09.15 | musca | brita_: just don't start your display manager automatically. |
| 21:09.36 | brita_ | how do I do that? |
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| 21:09.46 | brita_ | runlevels don't seem to be configured |
| 21:10.00 | musca | Hmm? |
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| 21:10.23 | brita_ | where do I set that? |
| 21:11.24 | brita_ | and the wm i want |
| 21:11.38 | jhutchins | Racqueteering: I think tmux is something I should probably learn and would probably like better than screen, but screen is what I know and so it's what I use when I need it. |
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| 21:12.48 | jhutchins | brita_: In most cases it's being launched by a dm - gdm, kdm, xdm, lightdm - that handles the login. Use one of the rc managers to disable that and you'll get that configuration. |
| 21:13.03 | musca | brita_: you are using the gnome3 desktop? then gdm3 most likely is your display manager |
| 21:13.09 | jhutchins | brita_: Do that in a specific runlevel and you can use that to choose - Debian's default is 2. |
| 21:13.57 | brita_ | i seem to be using gnome3 and kdm |
| 21:14.08 | oktr | any idea from where to disable system HD check |
| 21:14.42 | oktr | ext4-fs |
| 21:15.20 | asterismo | frikinz, i'm going to a trip to a foreign country and i have no laptop and i need libreoffice and other PDF/latex apps |
| 21:15.27 | brita_ | jhutchins: musca , first, i really want kde, then the runlevel |
| 21:15.51 | asterismo | frikinz, i used to have lil'debi installed but now it doesn't work anymore so i'm trying to do it manually |
| 21:16.14 | asterismo | frikinz, i have a bluetooth mouse and kb |
| 21:16.29 | oktr | i can see recovery complete then input: Power Button as /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXPWRBN:00/input/input2 |
| 21:17.43 | frikinz | asterismo: ah that's different. lucky you. I had bad surprise with prebuilt debian image so I also did it manually and, it was really straightforward. wasn't it? :) |
| 21:19.13 | frikinz | asterismo: installing an operating system in 30 lines... on a phone |
| 21:19.15 | musca | !tell brita_ about runlevel |
| 21:19.20 | brita_ | oh plz.. how do I switch to kde? :-/ |
| 21:19.48 | frikinz | brita_: did you look here https://wiki.debian.org/KDE |
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| 21:20.16 | brita_ | yes i did, i'll look again |
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| 21:20.58 | musca | brita_: did you install gnome after kde? |
| 21:21.04 | asterismo | frikinz, it still installing packages, but i think it will work |
| 21:21.37 | musca | the kdm display manager lets you choose your session type before you login. |
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| 21:21.56 | musca | ^^ brita_ |
| 21:22.00 | frikinz | asterismo: should. the little last tweaking is a script to mount, do all the little stuff and more important release the loop. |
| 21:22.01 | asterismo | frikinz, your post is great, now i have figure out what commands to issue in order to start the chroot |
| 21:22.20 | frikinz | asterismo: thank you! |
| 21:22.43 | brita_ | musca: the image had only gnome, i post installed plasma-desktop, chose kdm, and everything still looks like gnome |
| 21:23.13 | musca | !install kde |
| 21:23.13 | dpkg | The 'kde-standard' package gets you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and 'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > KDE > Install". |
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| 21:24.37 | SuperPhly | is there a "wizard" app for the console that will let me setup my network settings? |
| 21:25.00 | SuperPhly | something like i saw when installing debian? |
| 21:25.04 | daemonkeeper | Sure, your text editor. |
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| 21:25.29 | jhutchins | SuperPhly: Not really. |
| 21:25.36 | jhutchins | SuperPhly: NetworkManager is pretty easy. |
| 21:25.41 | SuperPhly | but it's X based |
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| 21:25.57 | SuperPhly | i don't want to install all the junk that comes with xwindows |
| 21:26.04 | jhutchins | SuperPhly: There used to be a curses interface, but I think it got dropped. |
| 21:26.20 | jhutchins | SuperPhly: So, ok, make sure it's not instaled. |
| 21:26.41 | jhutchins | !tell SuperPhly about interfaces |
| 21:27.02 | jhutchins | SuperPhly: See the message from dpkg, it's pretty easy stuff to deal with. |
| 21:27.13 | jhutchins | SuperPhly: dhcp or static? |
| 21:27.19 | SuperPhly | dhcp now, static next |
| 21:27.41 | jhutchins | SuperPhly: Real basic then. |
| 21:27.59 | SuperPhly | cool. i just didn't want to forget anything... like leaving some sorta dhcp daemon running |
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| 21:28.15 | asterismo | frikinz, other thing, do you know how to mount an encrypted external SD card in an android tablet? maybe a ext3+ecryptf partition? |
| 21:28.18 | jhutchins | Note that if an interface is set to 'allow hotplug' then restarting the networking service won't bring it back up. |
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| 21:28.23 | rescatux12312312 | I'm trying to restore grub with Rescatux and this is the error im getting -> http://pastebin.com/yQM505vQ |
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| 21:28.47 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 21:28.48 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. Also works for EFI! |
| 21:29.01 | jhutchins | rescatux12312312: Supported method above. |
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| 21:29.39 | asterismo | frikinz, and another thing... should i install the armel or armhf architecture for the samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0 p3113? |
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| 21:29.41 | frikinz | asterismo: no idea, I've only played with luks. there's also an android package. you might ask in #android .. |
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| 21:30.09 | jhutchins | resixian: Wow, that code's a bit of a mess! |
| 21:30.18 | J-2----- | im at the debian GNU/Linux installer menu alt f2 does nothing |
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| 21:32.08 | frikinz | !armhf |
| 21:32.08 | dpkg | armhf is a port of Debian requiring a floating-point unit (FPU) found in modern <ARM> hardware. It explicitly targets version 7 of the ARM architecture (i.e. not the Raspberry Pi), using the hard-float version of the ARM EABI. The armhf architecture was introduced at Debian 7.0 "Wheezy". http://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net. See also <armel vs armhf>. |
| 21:33.22 | jhutchins | J-2-----: The problem with installer problems is that most of us run it once per machine, and most of us don't have that many machines. |
| 21:33.25 | asterismo | frikinz, i could not find any wiki that lists devices and supported architectures, will keep looking |
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| 21:34.00 | J-2----- | and when i goto graphical installer i get kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs |
| 21:34.02 | J-2----- | etc |
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| 21:36.07 | asterismo | frikinz, the galaxy tab now that i read, it seems to support armhf, should i go on with armhf? |
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| 21:36.17 | J-2----- | how could the grub boot loader possibly not install correctly... during installation |
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| 21:36.35 | frikinz | asterismo: looks like its armv7 so.. yes you'll get hardware floating point support |
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| 21:37.17 | themill | J-2-----: how did you make your install image? precisely which image are you using? |
| 21:37.28 | J-2----- | 7.2 stable 3 dvds |
| 21:37.33 | J-2----- | it only installed 1 of the 3 |
| 21:37.40 | themill | how? |
| 21:37.50 | J-2----- | how did I make? |
| 21:37.55 | J-2----- | they were iso files |
| 21:38.01 | themill | usb? dvd? |
| 21:38.04 | J-2----- | dvd |
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| 21:38.54 | J-2----- | i went through the entire installation without any issues |
| 21:39.02 | themill | efi? |
| 21:39.05 | J-2----- | nope |
| 21:39.09 | J-2----- | bios |
| 21:39.18 | themill | hmm... they're all the normal reasons |
| 21:39.21 | frikinz | asterismo: don't know if it will make an huge difference for your use case but yes, should be better. have to try it also myself |
| 21:39.47 | frikinz | asterismo: so just 2 caracters to change in the procedure :) |
| 21:40.05 | asterismo | frikinz, but your howto still apply for what i can see, just changing armhf instead |
| 21:40.06 | J-2----- | im just getting the image again maybe it was corrupt who knows |
| 21:40.18 | asterismo | frikinz, yeah |
| 21:40.30 | themill | dpkg: tell J-2----- about check iso image |
| 21:40.38 | themill | (although that's a pretty odd failure mode) |
| 21:40.42 | jhutchins | J-2-----: Using just the first disk is fairly standard. Did you check the md5sum of the iso and verify the CD burn? |
| 21:40.53 | J-2----- | i didn't verify the checksum |
| 21:41.04 | J-2----- | i have a 64 bit processor but not even the 64 bit ubuntu cd will run properly |
| 21:41.10 | J-2----- | so i'm downloading the 32 bit version this time |
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| 21:41.19 | jhutchins | J-2-----: It's usually correct - but you only have to catch one bad one to make it worth the time. |
| 21:41.20 | J-2----- | and i'll check the md5 |
| 21:41.40 | J-2----- | *live cd |
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| 21:42.04 | jhutchins | J-2-----: desktop or laptop? |
| 21:42.07 | J-2----- | laptop |
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| 21:42.50 | petn-randall | The only reason I ever saw why a 64 bit installation didn't install on a machine was because it was 32 bit ... what was the error? |
| 21:43.00 | jhutchins | J-2-----: Usually a bad burn will just fail to boot, but "strange, unexplained failure of system" is sometimes a bad install image. |
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| 21:44.20 | jhutchins | J-2-----: One thing that can happen is that the drives get a different device number when you boot from the CD than they do when the HD tries to boot, so grub can't find itself. |
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| 21:47.58 | J-2----- | im not really sure this is a first for me with any os |
| 21:48.17 | J-2----- | but i downloaded the 32 bit image in hopes of not creating a coaster |
| 21:49.13 | J-2----- | the graphical installer didn't work at all i just assumed it was a driver issue |
| 21:49.34 | DarkG | i have wireless problem |
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| 21:49.42 | DarkG | it shows up in lspci |
| 21:49.48 | DarkG | but i cant use it |
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| 21:50.01 | DarkG | ATM im using my phone tethering |
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| 21:50.58 | mtn | DarkG: did you start here?: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
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| 21:52.21 | DarkG | This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. |
| 21:52.38 | DarkG | Oh. oops |
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| 21:53.43 | mtn | DarkG: odd, did you get it to come up? |
| 21:54.00 | DarkG | yeah, had %20E in it |
| 21:54.18 | mtn | DarkG: my paste must have been messed up. |
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| 21:57.01 | DarkG | modprobe -r brcmsmac ; modprobe brcmsmac |
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| 21:57.03 | DarkG | oops |
| 21:57.40 | DarkG | the "modprobe" CMD thats on this page isnt found on my terminal |
| 21:59.58 | mtn | DarkG: you have to be root |
| 22:00.06 | DarkG | ah |
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| 22:00.36 | J-2----- | the 32 bit graphical installation works go figure |
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| 22:01.04 | DarkG | aha |
| 22:01.07 | DarkG | i fixed my wifi |
| 22:01.11 | DarkG | Good. :D |
| 22:01.13 | mtn | DarkG: yay |
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| 22:02.46 | edju | X sporadically crashes to a black screen where things scroll by too fast for me to read. I've tried to examine kern.log and Xorg.0.log, as well as google searches. Xorg.0.log shows an error - failed to load module modesetting (does not exist) - and two warnings -Falling back to old probe method for vesa and fbdev, both of which are later unloaded. KMS is enabled in the kernel. Might any of this be related to the X crash? |
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| 22:03.47 | edju | Oh, using the nouveau driver |
| 22:04.12 | darsie | I have a 1 Gbit/s ethernet link to a 150 Mbps internet modem and only get 10-11 MB/s. Could there be something in my computer limiting me to 100 Mbps? I have nothing such set up. |
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| 22:05.29 | phy1729 | darsie: do you have another computer? you can test with netperf |
| 22:05.45 | CygniX | mumpitze1: so the next step is "apt-get -b source apache' ? |
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| 22:13.45 | darsie | phy1729: We're trying with a different computer now. |
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| 22:17.18 | frikinz | darsie: 150Mbps is probably your line rate and not IP packet rate + your remote host sends you acknowledgment which has to be taken into account |
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| 22:18.44 | phy1729 | darsie: also if you're right about the 150 Mbps and 10 MBps remember 10MBps=80Mbps |
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| 22:19.08 | frikinz | So in theory, I'm not sure you can get over 120Mbps |
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| 22:20.04 | CygniX | can I get a little hand with this error http://paste.debian.net/58075/ |
| 22:20.18 | phy1729 | frikinz: well provided it's full duplex (quite likely) the acks don't matter; however, the header sizes do |
| 22:20.22 | CygniX | trying to build apache 2.4 from sid |
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| 22:21.00 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: apt-get build-dep apache2 |
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| 22:21.27 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: no go |
| 22:21.29 | darsie | My flat mate claims he had like 15 MB/s. |
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| 22:21.34 | find-help | Hi |
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| 22:21.50 | daemonkeeper | dpkg: tell CygniX about ssb |
| 22:22.04 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: that is what I was using |
| 22:22.09 | CygniX | but to be honest, it's not clear |
| 22:22.18 | frikinz | phy1729: the acks that comes from the hosts are downlink |
| 22:22.21 | find-help | im looking to use the 'find' command to delete all files that start with $'\ any able to help me with this ? |
| 22:22.33 | frikinz | phy1729: and the splitting in ATM cells too |
| 22:22.46 | frikinz | + kernel delays,.. |
| 22:22.46 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libaprutil1-dev (>= 1.5.0) libcap-dev liblua5.1-0-dev libxml2-dev" means that those packages precisely are not installed on your system, but needed to port it. |
| 22:22.58 | daemonkeeper | So apt-get install them. |
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| 22:23.32 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: for libaprutil1-dev, it seems it is installing a older version |
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| 22:24.23 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Yes. You need to backtrack and do likewise for APR. |
| 22:24.25 | Sary | edju: was nvidia in used before nouveau! |
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| 22:24.37 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: I told you Wheezy + Apache 2.4 ain't fun :) |
| 22:24.51 | CygniX | it's not |
| 22:24.59 | find-help | Anyone able to help? |
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| 22:25.32 | asterismo | frikinz, for stopping the chroot what command should i issue? just umount the image? |
| 22:25.33 | SuperPhly | i've got a question about "auto-hotplug", when would i use that directive |
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| 22:25.54 | atari314 | Hello, during the debian install, does anyone know which keymap should I choose for US_international? (I tried the American English, but it's not the us_int keymap). |
| 22:26.10 | evilytwisted | would there be a gamepad /joystick to keyboard gui for linux |
| 22:26.11 | edju | Sary, Yes, the propietary driver. I've - I hope - removed all trace of it. |
| 22:26.22 | find-help | i've tried find -name $'\ | xargs sudo rm -Rvi |
| 22:27.24 | frikinz | asterismo: all what you've mounted in the loop (devpts,proc,sys), the image and losetup -d the loopback device. line 13 to 16 of the script |
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| 22:28.29 | frikinz | find-help: find needs a directory as first argument |
| 22:28.39 | frikinz | asterismo: I've to go, have fun! |
| 22:29.01 | asterismo | frikinz, you're awesome man! |
| 22:29.20 | asterismo | frikinz, thanks again!!! i'm in my new lxde desktop... |
| 22:29.30 | frikinz | asterismo: you're welcome! cheers |
| 22:29.35 | asterismo | frikinz, will try armhf architecture |
| 22:29.48 | asterismo | frikinz, you deserve to have fun man, cheers! |
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| 22:30.15 | Chat3036 | Hi |
| 22:30.27 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: I followed that instruction still stuck on step 3 'aptitude build-dep libaprutil1-dev' |
| 22:30.36 | Sary | edju: alright, will make sure it was purge removed properly! then see if the kernel module nouveau is loaded according to lsmod . |
| 22:31.07 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Why? |
| 22:31.12 | CygniX | and then 'apt-get -b source libaprutil1-dev' |
| 22:31.14 | sarota | ???? |
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| 22:31.57 | evilytwisted | would any of you know if theres a gui for "joy2key" or something like gamepad / joystick to keyboard/mouse that is gui |
| 22:32.03 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: it looks like it built the latest version. last line is "dpkg-source --after-build apr-util-1.5.2" |
| 22:32.20 | daemonkeeper | What is it giving to to you? |
| 22:33.12 | CygniX | after running 'apt-get -b source libaprutil1-dev', got this http://paste.debian.net/58078/ |
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| 22:33.26 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: well. do ls .. |
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| 22:34.13 | CygniX | yea, was in a directory I should not be ing |
| 22:34.37 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Point being, you are though with it. In .. you got the resulting .debs. |
| 22:34.42 | daemonkeeper | *through |
| 22:34.51 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: yea |
| 22:35.04 | daemonkeeper | So no problem. That's it. |
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| 22:38.52 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: would it not have been just easier download apache source file and ujust run make... :P |
| 22:39.20 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Same problem. It's not that the versioned dependencies are there to annoy you :) |
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| 22:39.37 | amdx2 | Hello |
| 22:39.40 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: But yes, essentially it would be the same procedure. |
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| 22:40.11 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: I am hoping this method would use debian specific paths |
| 22:40.24 | daemonkeeper | It does. |
| 22:40.34 | vimpulse | amdx2: hi :) |
| 22:40.43 | daemonkeeper | But as said, you want to purge libapache2-* before, CygniX. |
| 22:41.44 | CygniX | apt-get purge libxxx* ? |
| 22:41.46 | edju | Sary, Yes and yes. |
| 22:42.07 | amdx2 | My laptop keep crashing, basically as soon as I start it up I can move about in the grub menu for about 20s, then the text colour will randomize and it will freeze. Sounds like RAM/mobo issue to me, you? |
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| 22:42.41 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Dear god, no. lib_apache2_ |
| 22:43.00 | vimpulse | amdx2: dunno. How old is the laptop? |
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| 22:43.05 | CygniX | yea, I meant apache daemonkeeper :) |
| 22:43.06 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: dpkg -l | grep "libapache2" to see those you actually have installed. |
| 22:43.11 | amdx2 | 2 years |
| 22:43.26 | vimpulse | amdx2: is it under warranty? |
| 22:43.35 | amdx2 | No, it ran out last year |
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| 22:43.49 | vimpulse | amdx2: can you get memtest or memtest+ to start? |
| 22:44.15 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: http://paste.debian.net/58080/ |
| 22:44.29 | CygniX | sorry, I was in the wrong directory |
| 22:44.33 | amdx2 | Nope, it freezes on that too. Though I ran it yesterday and it got to pass 26% and froze |
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| 22:44.40 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: You need to purge that before installing your 2.4 backport. |
| 22:44.52 | CygniX | was just showing the output |
| 22:44.55 | vimpulse | amdx2: do you have any spare RAM lying around? |
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| 22:45.11 | amdx2 | I have PC ram, but it doesn't fit into the laptop |
| 22:45.22 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Understood. You need to do "apt-get remove --purge libapache2-mod-php5" before installing apache 2.4 later on. |
| 22:45.24 | vimpulse | amdx2: what if you remove all the laptop's RAM except for one stick? |
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| 22:45.44 | amdx2 | Tried, fails on both sticks, in both slots, I have tried all methods. |
| 22:45.58 | amdx2 | methods as in ram1 in slot2 etc |
| 22:46.18 | CygniX | I feel so noobish on Debian. |
| 22:46.30 | CygniX | you would thing I never used linux before |
| 22:46.40 | CygniX | and my main OS is openSUSE |
| 22:46.56 | vimpulse | amdx2: dunno. |
| 22:46.56 | vimpulse | <amdx2> My laptop keep crashing, basically as soon as I start it up I can move about in the grub menu for about 20s, then the text colour will randomize and it will freeze. Sounds like RAM/mobo issue to me, you? |
| 22:46.56 | vimpulse | Dear all: what do you think is most likely wrong with amdx2's laptop? |
| 22:46.56 | vimpulse | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:48.24 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Well. I'm sorry. This happens to the best of us. We can't be all enlighted that early. |
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| 22:48.55 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: i get these dependencies error http://paste.debian.net/58084/ |
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| 22:49.54 | Sary | edju: then see if xorg.conf wasn't dump if you had rebooted, if so then take it out of the equation and then reboot |
| 22:49.56 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Right what I said. You have to purge existing php packages you have installed, and either remove libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 or install it in the 1.5 version, too. |
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| 22:51.13 | atari314 | Guys, during the Choose Keyboard step from Debian installation, does anyone know which option should I choose for the US_international keymap? (tried American English but it's not using the us_intl keymap) |
| 22:51.23 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: I get that error when trying to do the purge |
| 22:52.21 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Because you installed the apr 1.5 stuff alreadxy. |
| 22:52.23 | daemonkeeper | -x |
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| 22:52.37 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: I did |
| 22:52.42 | daemonkeeper | I know, I see it :> |
| 22:52.59 | daemonkeeper | Try apt-get -f install. That will create some havoc you can fix later. |
| 22:53.15 | evilytwisted | WOuld any of you know of a gamepad controller to keyboard gui that will work on linux |
| 22:53.22 | daemonkeeper | Essentially it will remove your apr 1.4 packages I think |
| 22:53.25 | Sary | edju: which debian version are you under, is your system up to date! |
| 22:53.27 | daemonkeeper | *1.5 |
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| 22:54.01 | kyle___ | Since there are offical debian ports (two even), how come there isn't real debian on the r-pi? |
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| 22:54.11 | kyle___ | official debian-arm ports that is. |
| 22:54.13 | zax0 | does pastebinit copy my last terminal output to a pastebin? or does it just do files? (or both?) |
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| 22:54.21 | abrotman | kyle___: ask #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:54.45 | kyle___ | abrotman: Thank you. |
| 22:54.51 | J-2----- | I did sudo apt-get install xchat like I normally do in Ubuntu and put in my sudo password... for the account im logged in with (non root) and I get hte message username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 22:55.04 | Sary | zax0: with ' cat ' it should do both. |
| 22:55.11 | J-2----- | I tried my root password as well no luck |
| 22:55.25 | vimpulse | J-2-----: well, |
| 22:55.40 | vimpulse | J-2-----: what Google search terms did you try in order to look for more information? |
| 22:56.10 | vimpulse | zax0: dunno. Try it, find out, and please let us know. |
| 22:56.19 | J-2----- | google.com -> how to run hex chat -> /join #debian -> i asked my question |
| 22:56.42 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: what am I forcing? |
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| 22:56.52 | vimpulse | J-2-----: so you searched on Google for only [ how to run hex chat ]? |
| 22:57.20 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: An equilibrium of dependencies. It will either install or remove everything to ensure all dependencies are satisfied. |
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| 22:57.34 | daemonkeeper | *everything needed |
| 22:57.44 | daemonkeeper | However, you will be prompted about the desired action. |
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| 22:58.10 | vimpulse | J-2-----: but you said your problem was a different problem than how to run hex chat. You wrote that your problem is: |
| 22:58.11 | vimpulse | <J-2-----> I did sudo apt-get install xchat like I normally do in Ubuntu and put in my sudo password... for the account im logged in with (non root) and I get hte message username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
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| 22:58.46 | abrotman | hexchat isn't xchat |
| 22:59.26 | vimpulse | abrotman: fair enough. |
| 22:59.41 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: I understand what the forceing will do, but not sure which package I am to force. forgive me |
| 22:59.42 | abrotman | he doesn't need ot use sudo |
| 22:59.57 | vimpulse | abrotman: can we speak in #debian-offtopic? |
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| 23:00.06 | vimpulse | abrotman: there's a good reason why. |
| 23:00.17 | edju | Sary, Testing, and yes. |
| 23:00.28 | abrotman | seems i don't have a choice |
| 23:00.45 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: None. Just do "apt-get -f install" literally. |
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| 23:00.57 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: oh, that didnt work |
| 23:01.04 | daemonkeeper | Because? |
| 23:01.33 | CygniX | http://paste.debian.net/58087/ |
| 23:01.57 | zax0 | vimpulse: well, i tried steam | pastebinit but i'm still waiting on an output.. |
| 23:01.58 | J-2----- | lol it's asking for me to insert the dvd when installing xchat |
| 23:02.07 | abrotman | dpkg: tell J-2----- about wheezy sources.list |
| 23:02.08 | J-2----- | shouldn't the sources already be setup? |
| 23:02.26 | CygniX | J-2-----: probably forgot to remove iso |
| 23:03.00 | J-2----- | the dvd was removed after installation |
| 23:03.11 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Install the noted packages (libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 and libaprutil1-ldap) from the debs you created previously. |
| 23:03.16 | CygniX | but it's still listed on the source J-2----- |
| 23:03.17 | J-2----- | "media change please inser the disc labeled debian 7.2 wheezy in media/cdrom" |
| 23:03.20 | J-2----- | oh |
| 23:03.46 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: i.e. dpkg -i libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3_whatever.deb libaprutil1-ldap_whatver.deb |
| 23:03.50 | Sary | edju: which GPU chipset is it! |
| 23:03.52 | daemonkeeper | Then apt-get -f install again |
| 23:03.54 | vimpulse | zax0: steam can run for hours before quitting. |
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| 23:04.10 | vimpulse | zax0: note also that the command you chose will capture stdout but not stderr messages. |
| 23:04.22 | vimpulse | zax0: pastebinit is waiting for steam to quit. |
| 23:05.02 | vimpulse | zax0: instead, try "ls / | pastebinit". :) |
| 23:05.10 | zax0 | vimpulse: i chose steam because it wouldnt run straight form the command line, id always get an error. but ill try that |
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| 23:05.46 | zax0 | vimpulse: hah, worked! |
| 23:06.27 | edju | Sary, [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] |
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| 23:06.53 | vimpulse | zax0: now try: ls /tmp/nonexistentfile 2>&1 | pastebinit |
| 23:07.15 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: that worked |
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| 23:09.53 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: I am guessing it is safe now to install apache 2.4/ |
| 23:10.06 | CygniX | oop, @ daemonkeeper |
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| 23:10.31 | CygniX | sorry, am tired, seeing double |
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| 23:10.58 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: TIAS |
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| 23:12.50 | vimpulse | j-2-----: Did you find out why sudo gave you the error message? If so -- why? |
| 23:12.54 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: hope 'pkg -i apache2_2.4.6*.deb' would be OK |
| 23:12.56 | Krisx | I'm having issues with my home server. I haven't been able to get it to consistently connect to my network on boot. I've somehow figured out the issue several times in the past, but have never been able to pin-point the issue (because most the time it stays on 2 months at a time and it has never been too urgent). Anyways I'm fed up, and I'd greatly appreciate any help I can get. "uname -a" returns "Linux kserver 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2 |
| 23:12.56 | Krisx | .41-2 i686 GNU/Linux" and these images have some additional information: http://i.imgur.com/4ghb0da.jpg http://i.imgur.com/qF7clJw.jpg The computer is connected directly into the router via Ethernet cable and I have a DHCP reservation for 192.168.1.195 on my linksys router, and I've switched out the cord I was using with one I'm sure works, without any luck. Any ideas? |
| 23:13.14 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: You may not want all of them, but it won't hurt at least. |
| 23:13.45 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Note that you will need apache2-data and apache2-bin at least. |
| 23:14.05 | CygniX | it wants me to remove apach2 2.2 first |
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| 23:15.36 | vimpulse | Krisx: your question is very long. Please wait here patiently. Maybe someone will answer you; maybe not. If not, try the Debian User list. |
| 23:15.36 | vimpulse | Krisx: Or try <http://unix.stackexchange.com/>; edit your question to bump it to top of site every time you reply to a comment and every time your research finds you more information. |
| 23:16.49 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: I very much hope so :p |
| 23:17.23 | Sary | edju: Could it be a kernel version issue! # uname -r |
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| 23:19.05 | abrotman | looks at vimpulse |
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| 23:20.49 | abrotman | Krisx: so the IP address is assigned, but networking doesn't actually function? |
| 23:21.25 | Krisx | abrotman: exactly |
| 23:21.36 | abrotman | Krisx: and your route is set correctly? |
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| 23:22.20 | abrotman | Krisx: you may want to chyange "auto eth0" to "allow-hotplug eth0", but that likely won't fix your issue |
| 23:22.27 | Krisx | abortman: um? I don't really know |
| 23:22.42 | abrotman | Krisx: Is it currently broken? |
| 23:23.25 | Krisx | abortman: is what broken? It seems to just be a configuration problem, but if it is a physical issue, im not sure what i need to do in order to figure it out |
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| 23:23.45 | abrotman | Krisx: i'm asking if it's non-functional right now? |
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| 23:24.09 | Krisx | abortman: the computer is functional, networking is not |
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| 23:24.21 | Sary | edju: uname -r ; apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ! |
| 23:24.22 | abrotman | Krisx: "route -n", look okay? |
| 23:24.47 | hesco | apt-get update fails to ftech gpg signatures, details at: https://gist.github.com/hesco/39b18f5b3f9c260f596b |
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| 23:25.03 | hesco | Can someone please offer me some useful guidance on how to resolve this? |
| 23:25.31 | Sary | edju: oh well, am not even sure if you're able to switch to a VT! |
| 23:25.41 | abrotman | hesco: do you actually have a v6 connection ? |
| 23:25.57 | hesco | lynx sees the files at that url, probably using ipv4 addresses. But my apt-get update errors report inaccessable ipv6 addresses. |
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| 23:26.17 | hesco | doubt it. I never set anything up along those lines. |
| 23:26.38 | hesco | can I somehow instruct apt-get update to use the ipv4 addresses instead? |
| 23:27.05 | abrotman | hesco: /sbin/ifconfig -a .. do you see an IPv6 address? |
| 23:27.11 | Aiox | dumb question, do I need to download the .content, .log, .packages, and .zsync, when downloading a live 7.0 debian KDE dekstop for amd64? |
| 23:27.11 | Krisx | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 23:27.12 | Krisx | 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 23:27.12 | Krisx | 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 23:27.19 | Aiox | or just the .iso? |
| 23:27.23 | Dagger2 | hesco: usually v6 errors in apt-get (for people with v4-only connections) are because apt-get is failing to connect to the v4 addresses, then it's trying the v6 addresses second (because hey, why not? the v4 ones weren't working) |
| 23:27.27 | hesco | ifconfig does report an ipv6 for eth0 |
| 23:27.32 | Dagger2 | then it only bothers reporting the last failure message |
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| 23:28.08 | hesco | not sure if the switch between this box and the world supports ipv6 though |
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| 23:28.34 | hesco | abortman: inet6 addr: fe80::230:48ff:fed7:2332/64 Scope:Link |
| 23:28.37 | Dagger2 | hesco: if it begins with fe80::, pretend it's not there |
| 23:28.56 | hesco | ok |
| 23:28.58 | abrotman | was going to bring up Dagger2 but couldn't remember his nick :) |
| 23:29.12 | abrotman | Krisx: can you ping 8.8.8.8? |
| 23:29.19 | Krisx | abortman: nope |
| 23:29.30 | Dagger2 | don't worry, ipv6 was mentioned, so I was already summoned ;) |
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| 23:29.38 | abrotman | Dagger2: i was going to summon you with " noipv6" :) |
| 23:29.41 | Dagger2 | but it's weird that lynx works |
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| 23:29.59 | Sary | Aiox: the iso image. then make sure you md5sum check it. |
| 23:30.05 | Dagger2 | hesco: pastebin the output of `wget http://ftp.gtlib.gatech.edu/debian/dists/wheezy/Release.gpg`? |
| 23:30.11 | abrotman | Krisx: can you ping your gateway ? 192.168.1.1. ? |
| 23:30.21 | hesco | so, can I instruct my apt-get update to ignore the ipv6 addresses which that host resolves to? |
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| 23:31.01 | Dagger2 | hesco: there's not much point if it's not connecting on v4 either |
| 23:31.03 | Krisx | abortman: 11 packets transmitted - 100% loss, doesn't appear so |
| 23:31.21 | Krisx | abrotman* |
| 23:31.22 | edju | Sary, 3.10-3-686-pae, 1:1.0.9-2+b2, and yes, I have VTs. |
| 23:31.46 | hesco | Dagger2: https://gist.github.com/hesco/39b18f5b3f9c260f596b |
| 23:31.50 | edju | Sary, But, I gotta go. |
| 23:32.30 | hesco | ipv4 addresses report: failed: Connection refused |
| 23:32.33 | Dagger2 | hesco: so, v4 isn't working |
| 23:32.38 | Dagger2 | hesco: might wanna fix that |
| 23:32.47 | hesco | ipv6 addresses report: failed: Network is unreachable |
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| 23:33.35 | Krisx | abrotman: I don't think its broken because it just stops working after a reboot, which seems very typical for me. Then somehow I fix it.... |
| 23:33.37 | Dagger2 | (apt-get is trying those IPs in the same order wget is, but it's only reporting the last error. which, yes, is pretty unhelpful :/) |
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| 23:34.46 | abrotman | Krisx: and if you "ifdown eth0;ifup eth0" it all works again ? |
| 23:35.08 | Krisx | abortman: I've tried that recently as well without any luck |
| 23:35.47 | abrotman | Krisx: anything in your logs? |
| 23:36.15 | Krisx | abrotman: I'm not sure where the logs are xD |
| 23:36.21 | abrotman | /var/log/ |
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| 23:36.57 | Krisx | abrotman: uh, which file? |
| 23:37.23 | abrotman | Krisx: messages or syslog or dmesg |
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| 23:41.56 | Krisx | abrotman: all of those files are pretty big. the first one has a lot of "kserver kernel: [48680.016087] 8139too 0000:02:05.0: eth0: link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0xC1E1" type messages |
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| 23:45.00 | abrotman | Krisx: it sounds like a firmware or physical problem |
| 23:45.47 | mgodzilla | anyone know which channel is for apache web server? |
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| 23:46.36 | abrotman | mgodzilla: #httpd IIRC |
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| 23:48.29 | Krisx | abrotman: I thought for the longest time I used e1000 not 8139too, but modprobe e1000 didn't do anything. By firmware do you mean bios init or a kernel module? And if it is a physical problem, where would I go from here to confirm that? |
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| 23:49.38 | mgodzilla | abrotman: asked 'bout a dns issue there...apache2 on debian squeeze. |
| 23:49.46 | mgodzilla | they pointed me to #dns. |
| 23:50.28 | mgodzilla | anyone familiar w/ apache2 here? |
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| 23:51.41 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: installed fine, but... none of the sites are running |
| 23:52.06 | CygniX | apache2ctl -S only shows the deault confi in sites-enabled |
| 23:52.09 | abrotman | Krisx: firmware, a binary blob |
| 23:52.13 | abrotman | mgodzilla: just ask |
| 23:52.44 | daemonkeeper | Define "none of the sites are running" |
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| 23:53.27 | CygniX | actually default sites works |
| 23:53.33 | Krisx | abrotman: do you know where I can match a kernel module with my pci id? I've looked around but couldn't find a table with both |
| 23:54.06 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: I have two other config files in sites enabled and they are not enabled ") |
| 23:54.10 | abrotman | Krisx: the modinfo will tell you |
| 23:54.13 | mgodzilla | sorry. i should know better. runnin' apache2 on debian squeeze. dns address does not resolve on my intranet. |
| 23:54.26 | mgodzilla | links/pics i've posted online, do not resolve in my browser. |
| 23:54.30 | mgodzilla | when i'm on my lan. |
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| 23:54.57 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: a2ensite if you purged the older packages, your conf is not preserved. |
| 23:55.17 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Also read the NEWS file. |
| 23:55.26 | daemonkeeper | Apache 2.4 sites need ".conf" |
| 23:57.13 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: .conf was the issue, thanks that did it |
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| 23:58.13 | CygniX | daemonkeeper: you been a tremendous help, and a couple other who walked me through debian 101 lesson. THanks a bunch. |
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| 23:58.34 | daemonkeeper | CygniX: Yeah, well, I happen to know Apache packages a bit ;) |
| 23:58.55 | CygniX | I appreciate your patience |
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