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| 00:01.27 | jeep | hello |
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| 00:04.19 | Super-Skrull | Does anybody know a way to test ISP throttling that isnt java based? |
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| 00:08.11 | teza19 | hi, I'm trying to install 'something' (SSMTP I think it was) to get the mail() function working for PHP. It doesn't seem to be working. |
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| 00:11.33 | grimeton | teza19: ssmtp should replace the mail command that is used for sending mail by local utilities |
| 00:11.36 | themill | teza19: any mail transport agent would work here -- the default that you had installed at the beginning (exim) would work just fine |
| 00:11.46 | grimeton | teza19: you have to configure it offering it an smtp server, the authentication settings and stuff |
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| 00:12.45 | teza19 | i have configured everything according to this (http://www.thewireframecommunity.com/node/39) tutorial |
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| 00:13.29 | grimeton | teza19: did you restart the webserver and/or the php processes so that they could reload the config? |
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| 00:14.01 | themill | teza19: bonus points for finding the oldest document possible to follow |
| 00:14.27 | teza19 | themill: lol, I just found one that looked pretty easy to follow. |
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| 00:14.41 | teza19 | grimeton: I sure did. I'm trying to send email from CLI and no luck --> http://pastie.org/private/sc99qiiqz1ae7vh04tesaq |
| 00:15.17 | grimeton | teza19: you read that the from address is wrong - right? |
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| 00:15.30 | teza19 | I did - but it isn't :) |
| 00:15.44 | grimeton | looks like the exchange server sees things differently |
| 00:15.54 | teza19 | that's an older paste, sorry. I have made modifications |
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| 00:17.13 | teza19 | I'll run through the tutorial again and see where I went wrong. Thanks |
| 00:17.53 | grimeton | teza19: what From: line is in the mail.txt you're using? |
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| 00:18.24 | teza19 | From: firstname.lastname@domain.com |
| 00:18.46 | grimeton | regarding to the error message i see i'd say that's wrong |
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| 00:19.03 | teza19 | Thanks, I'll take a look again |
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| 00:20.03 | grimeton | how do i tell my framebuffer to stay at 1400x1050 on boots? |
| 00:20.31 | klys | vga= |
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| 00:22.11 | grimeton | for framebuffers? |
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| 00:23.32 | klys | see /usr/src/linux/Documentation |
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| 00:24.25 | grimeton | things i change with fbset are made permanent with the vga= kernel setting? |
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| 00:41.25 | hash1400 | Hello |
| 00:42.15 | hash1400 | can we install debian 32b on a x64 |
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| 00:42.56 | Vasistha | hash1400: I am pretty sure the answer is yes, as I have done it |
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| 00:43.41 | abrotman | hash1400: yes |
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| 00:45.20 | hash1400 | thanks |
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| 00:46.07 | jeep | i gotta ask why hash1400 64bit install works great |
| 00:46.33 | abrotman | jeep: one reason could be 32bit binary-only software, though multi-arch exists now |
| 00:46.40 | abrotman | there's also memory consumption to consider |
| 00:46.46 | dvs | that darn Valve! |
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| 00:47.31 | hash1400 | Do you know http://it-ebooks.info/ |
| 00:47.49 | abrotman | should we? |
| 00:48.04 | jeep | hash1400, not till now looks ok |
| 00:48.27 | hash1400 | Yes, there's a broad range of free books for it |
| 00:48.45 | hash1400 | and direct download |
| 00:49.44 | abrotman | what does that have to do with i386 installs? |
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| 00:52.11 | jeep | maybe the books are only compatable with 32 bit ? |
| 00:52.22 | dvs | heh |
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| 00:59.18 | grimeton | root |
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| 01:18.47 | Feds | Hi |
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| 01:19.18 | jeep | hi Feds |
| 01:19.43 | Feds | Whats up? |
| 01:21.19 | dvs | hides |
| 01:21.41 | jeep | well since the Feds are here i think we are all leaving |
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| 01:23.05 | Feds | Are you a Debian developper? |
| 01:24.44 | jeep | i am a user .. quite a few people here contribute to various parts im sure though |
| 01:24.55 | Feds | ok |
| 01:25.17 | Feds | I have a question about the Debian project. |
| 01:25.40 | jeep | just ask someone will answer |
| 01:25.47 | grimeton | kill -9 $(ps auxw | grep -i torrent | awk '{print $2}') |
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| 01:26.30 | Feds | Does anybody know if the members of the Debian kernel team are Ubuntu employees? |
| 01:27.02 | abrotman | Feds: likely, does it matter? |
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| 01:27.32 | grom358 | I have wheezy on ARM. And I want to be unable to unrar files. Suggestions? |
| 01:27.40 | grom358 | want to be able* |
| 01:28.16 | abrotman | judd: versions unrar --arch arm |
| 01:28.18 | judd | Package: unrar on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:3.9.10-1; wheezy/non-free: 1:4.1.4-1; jessie/non-free: 1:5.0.10-1; sid/non-free: 1:5.0.10-1 |
| 01:28.27 | abrotman | judd: versions unrar-free --arch arm |
| 01:28.28 | judd | Package: unrar-free on i386 -- squeeze: 1:0.0.1+cvs20071127-1; jessie: 1:0.0.1+cvs20071127-2; sid: 1:0.0.1+cvs20071127-2; wheezy: 1:0.0.1+cvs20071127-2 |
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| 01:29.13 | grimeton | Package: unrar-free |
| 01:29.13 | grimeton | Version: 1:0.0.1+cvs20071127-2 |
| 01:29.14 | grimeton | Architecture: armhf |
| 01:29.32 | abrotman | and? |
| 01:29.43 | abrotman | oh, different person :) sorry |
| 01:30.52 | abrotman | grom358: what isn't working? |
| 01:33.37 | Feds | abrotman: why don't they call it Ubuntu instead of Debian?If the kernel and the majority of the packages are the same whats the difference apart from the installer and the desktop environment? |
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| 01:34.06 | themill | Feds: what makes you say the kernel is the same? |
| 01:34.52 | abrotman | Feds: they're not the same |
| 01:36.55 | grom358 | abrotman: well the unrar-free package is not unraring this file |
| 01:37.40 | jeep | grom358, what error ? |
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| 01:39.30 | grom358 | jeep: just running it again now |
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| 01:40.01 | jeep | grom358, paste bin the error if you can |
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| 01:40.36 | grom358 | it just says Extracting myfilename Failed |
| 01:41.00 | grom358 | I can do a list contents on it |
| 01:41.06 | grom358 | but extracting the file fails |
| 01:41.41 | abrotman | grom358: so get the non-free unrar |
| 01:42.20 | grom358 | abrotman: how I get the non-free version? |
| 01:44.14 | abrotman | dpkg: tell grom358 about non-free |
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| 01:49.21 | nonconvergent | There's a non-free and a non-non-free unrar? |
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| 01:52.05 | abrotman | nonconvergent: free and non-free, yes |
| 01:52.26 | grom358 | still no luck |
| 01:52.35 | grom358 | I added non-free to my sources.list |
| 01:52.38 | grom358 | and did apt-get update |
| 01:53.09 | nonconvergent | grom358: now apt-get install unrar |
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| 01:53.27 | grom358 | oh.. thanks |
| 01:53.33 | grom358 | i was thinking it was unrar-non-free |
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| 01:54.36 | grom358 | whoop.. its working |
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| 02:08.45 | gbit | There is anyone knows how to remove Gnome Online Accounts? Already remove the package but stills there. |
| 02:08.57 | abrotman | what is still there? |
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| 02:09.17 | gbit | The online accounts set up. |
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| 02:10.25 | gbit | users still can register to an social network using Gnome online accounts |
| 02:11.16 | abrotman | so remove the config files |
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| 02:15.54 | gbit | I can't find it where. |
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| 02:16.21 | gbit | . /home/user/.gnome2 ? |
| 02:17.13 | abrotman | are you using gnome2? |
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| 02:17.53 | gbit | Sorry, I'm on 3.4.2 |
| 02:18.01 | gbit | debian 7.2 x64 |
| 02:18.02 | roughly | why does iceweasle get held back when apt-get upgrade |
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| 02:19.38 | LtL | roughly: is it backported |
| 02:21.43 | gbit | Can I edit the menu on users Available/Busy/System Settings, can I cut it off? |
| 02:22.17 | roughly | LtL: Not sure, i didnt set it up if it is. how can i tell. im on wheezy |
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| 02:23.47 | LtL | roughly: pastebin, apt-cache policy iceweasel - paste.debian.net |
| 02:24.17 | LtL | roughly: if it has bpo in the filename it's a backport |
| 02:24.44 | LtL | package name rather to be accurate |
| 02:25.22 | LtL | jeep: the northern plaains are incredibly boring, i know |
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| 02:25.34 | LtL | ignore that line |
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| 02:28.23 | LtL | roughly: actually you may have the mozilla.debian.net package, that needs to be updated manually, dist-upgrade may do it. |
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| 02:31.49 | roughly | LtL: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 02:32.34 | LtL | roughly: thats not the full output of apt-cache policy |
| 02:32.55 | roughly | may i pm u |
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| 02:33.26 | abrotman | keep it in the channel please |
| 02:36.54 | roughly | LtL: http://pastebin.com/f8fZjAJW |
| 02:39.22 | LtL | roughly: there are no slashes after http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ and it should be wheezy-updates, fix your sources.list |
| 02:39.44 | abrotman | roughly: aptitude install iceweasel |
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| 02:41.13 | LtL | roughly: beg your pardon, it is wheezy/updates |
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| 02:42.05 | roughly | LtL: on both securty and the other one? |
| 02:42.32 | LtL | dpkg: tell roughly about wheezy sources.list |
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| 02:42.48 | LtL | roughly: check the msg from dpkg. |
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| 02:45.06 | roughly | LtL: it looks set up right |
| 02:45.16 | roughly | besides the no / i had |
| 02:46.00 | roughly | should i change stable in deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free to wheezy? |
| 02:46.24 | LtL | roughly: stable is wheezy, so that's fine |
| 02:46.34 | abrotman | should really use 'wheezy' |
| 02:46.36 | LtL | for now anyway |
| 02:46.38 | dvs | for now... |
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| 02:48.10 | roughly | changing it to wheezy would hae no effect? |
| 02:48.16 | LtL | no |
| 02:48.47 | dvs | roughly: It won't make a difference until jessie is released. |
| 02:49.05 | abrotman | it's a good practice |
| 02:49.19 | roughly | k |
| 02:49.36 | roughly | can you become certified in debian? |
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| 02:52.29 | themill | you can become certifiable. |
| 02:52.37 | abrotman | yay! |
| 02:52.49 | roughly | LtL: even after adding the / i still get the package has been held back |
| 02:53.02 | abrotman | roughly: aptitude install iceweasel |
| 02:54.18 | roughly | abrotman: so use aptitude from now on? |
| 02:54.25 | roughly | or only on held back packages? |
| 02:54.25 | abrotman | did it work? |
| 02:54.28 | roughly | yea |
| 02:54.40 | zenlunatic | you can get redhat certified |
| 02:54.46 | abrotman | not related |
| 02:55.00 | abrotman | roughly: that's up to you .. you can use any package manager you like, i just gave the command with aptitude |
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| 02:55.50 | roughly | abrotman: Why only icewealse being kept back? Is there an equivlent to apt-get upgrade with aptitude so all my packages are up to date |
| 02:56.12 | roughly | my sources.list look correct according to the dpkg bot |
| 02:56.15 | zenlunatic | two ways of doing the same thing |
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| 02:56.25 | abrotman | roughly: did you try the dist-upgrade? |
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| 02:57.29 | zenlunatic | its like editing a rtf with abiword or libreoffice. two things do the same thing essentially |
| 02:57.37 | roughly | abrotman: mo |
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| 02:58.43 | ssgelm | I am having an infuriating problem. I built a wheezy vm in virtualbox. Everything works great however I am unable to ssh agent forward to the box. I am using "ssh -A". Does anyone have any idea what the problem could be? I am able to forward my ssh agent to any other server without issue (including a similarly built squeeze vm). Are there any changes to the default ssh config in wheezy that could be causing this problem? |
| 02:59.00 | GiBa | Hi! I took a source code, first I buit the packages to check that all was ok then I dhc --nmu then I changed some code (i know the code is ok, i can make and make install with that) then i dpkg-source --commit , and then tried to build the .deb again but i got this error: |
| 02:59.02 | GiBa | Patch font-config does not remove cleanly (refresh it or enforce with -f) |
| 02:59.03 | GiBa | make: *** [unpatch] Error 1 |
| 02:59.03 | GiBa | dpkg-buildpackage: error: fakeroot debian/rules clean gave error exit status 2 |
| 02:59.03 | GiBa | debuild: fatal error at line 1357: |
| 02:59.03 | GiBa | dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -D -us -uc failed |
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| 02:59.21 | GiBa | there is a patch called like that |
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| 03:00.05 | GiBa | how can i proceed to fix this ? i really dont understand what is going on with this "restoring" |
| 03:00.07 | GiBa | ? |
| 03:00.17 | BigMac | You should try another distro |
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| 03:00.25 | BigMac | Debian is buggy as hell |
| 03:00.34 | jeep | ssgelm, i would suspect a networking error or setting first did you double in the vbox settings what they are set too ?\ |
| 03:00.37 | zenlunatic | youre funny |
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| 03:00.54 | themill | BigMac: play elsewhere |
| 03:01.02 | ssgelm | jeep: the strange thing is that ssh itself works fine. I just get no SSH_AUTH_SOCK and no socket in /tmp :( |
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| 03:05.09 | ssgelm | anyone else have any ideas? |
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| 04:12.47 | relipse | any good linux admins here? |
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| 04:13.19 | peterrooney | !poll |
| 04:14.08 | peterrooney | relipse: what is your actual question? |
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| 04:28.55 | KhashayaR | gm4n, i hope someone can help me i need to upgrade my TCL from 8.4 to 8.5! thanks |
| 04:29.03 | KhashayaR | GM i hope someone can help me i need to upgrade my TCL from 8.4 to 8.5! thanks |
| 04:29.54 | jeep | KhashayaR, go ahead .. dont let us hold you back |
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| 04:36.24 | Gm4n | anyone know why executing a shell with uid 1 and euid 2 ends up with just uid 1? |
| 04:38.46 | valgrind | sup |
| 04:40.30 | KhashayaR | jeep sure but i dont know how |
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| 04:41.06 | jeep | KhashayaR, are you using wheezy ? |
| 04:41.26 | KhashayaR | nop |
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| 04:41.38 | KhashayaR | i do have dedicated one |
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| 04:42.40 | jeep | uh what does /etc/debian_version say ? |
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| 04:44.05 | KhashayaR | ? /etc/debian_version: Permission denied |
| 04:44.30 | jeep | KhashayaR, cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 04:45.03 | KhashayaR | 6.0.7 |
| 04:48.11 | KhashayaR | ? |
| 04:48.58 | jeep | KhashayaR, thats squeeze isnt it you have old version can you upgrade the whole thing ? |
| 04:50.39 | jeep | KhashayaR, if you can .. this page has some directions http://www.garron.me/en/linux/upgrade-debian-squeeze-wheezy-6.0-7.0.html |
| 04:51.24 | KhashayaR | thanks |
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| 04:52.43 | jeep | KhashayaR, after you do that apt-cache search tcl should have 8.5 as an option or be the default its listed as part of wheezy http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/tcl8.5 |
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| 04:59.02 | KhashayaR | thanks :) |
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| 05:00.29 | Guest21027 | Debian is one of the biggest jokes, along with ubuntu |
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| 05:04.03 | Guest21027 | What makes Ubuntu suck so much is that it is based on Debian. |
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| 05:05.55 | ectospasm | Guest21027: do you have a support question? |
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| 05:07.07 | jeep | i think Guest21027 was making sure everyone knows that debian/ubuntu/linux is too steep of a learning curve for him/her to overcome |
| 05:08.35 | jeep | KhashayaR, got the update going ? |
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| 05:12.41 | KhashayaR | jeep i have got the error E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
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| 05:13.25 | KhashayaR | this one too E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 05:13.46 | ectospasm | KhashayaR: do you have another apt process running in a different terminal window? |
| 05:14.04 | KhashayaR | i dont |
| 05:14.15 | jeep | KhashayaR, you can only run one update process at a time .. one apt on aptitude / synaptic ect. they all lock there |
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| 05:43.41 | KhashayaR | jeep i got this one :Unable to safely resolve dependencies, try running with --full-resolver |
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| 06:01.44 | K|NgGh0sT | ah the bot is gone... crud |
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| 06:13.09 | dselect | Moo, K|NgGh0sT |
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| 06:13.40 | K|NgGh0sT | ah |
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| 06:40.27 | digdilem | it has a very simple job, but has become very overdeveloped |
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| 07:31.17 | K|NgGh0sT | damnit, I installed a new harddrive but I didn't know fdisk only makes 2TB partitions.... I have put data on that drive, anyway to expand that partition to 3TB without losing data? |
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| 07:34.44 | patriku | K|NgGh0sT: I have never heard about such limit in recent fdisk. What version you use ? You can try parted for example too. |
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| 07:38.34 | K|NgGh0sT | I dunno, I just made a new partition in fdisk ext3 and it turned my 3TB drive into a 2TB partition |
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| 07:38.44 | K|NgGh0sT | lemme reboot it first and see what version |
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| 07:43.46 | K|NgGh0sT | does using parted destroy the data on the drive? |
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| 07:46.08 | bhuddah | K|NgGh0sT: it depends. |
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| 07:55.41 | K|NgGh0sT | yeah by going fdisk,n, p, 1, default, default it leaves this.. Remaining 1565567920 unallocated 512-byte sectors |
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| 08:01.00 | bhuddah | K|NgGh0sT: fdisk can't handle newer/larger disks. |
| 08:01.13 | bhuddah | (afaik) |
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| 08:02.26 | K|NgGh0sT | yeah, thats what I just noticed |
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| 08:42.48 | Ivan_ | does someone knows how to use multixserver? |
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| 09:01.16 | Ivan_ | does someone here knows how to use multixserver? |
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| 09:06.32 | moldy | Ivan_: https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc |
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| 09:08.21 | Ivan_ | moldy: Thanks. |
| 09:09.41 | Iridos | without wanting to seem hostile... while we're at it... I'd also appreciate the correct grammar of "does someone *know*", specially if it's repeated. |
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| 09:10.12 | tvlooy | hi, I removed /var/cache and it seems my installation is broken now. See https://gist.github.com/tvlooy/b9b6833bb0c5e4036fd2 |
| 09:10.20 | tvlooy | any clues how to fix this? |
| 09:11.16 | tremon | tvlooy: apt-get download apt, dpkg -i apt*.deb I would guess |
| 09:11.59 | petern_ | du |
| 09:12.11 | petern_ | Bah, focus follows eyes not working again :( |
| 09:12.24 | maxyz | I think you'll need to create the /var/cache/apt/archives/partial directory first |
| 09:12.31 | maxyz | tvlooy: ^ |
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| 09:13.23 | tremon | tvlooy: for future reference, you may want to use find /var/cache -type f -delete. Most packages fail if you remove their directory structure under /var/cache |
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| 09:14.27 | Iridos | or possibly just "apt-cache clean" to clean out the repository |
| 09:15.26 | Ivan_ | Hi, I have 2 keyboards, mouse and monitor but I have only 1 computer, does someone know how to use a pair of mouse and keyboard on a monitor and another mouse and keyboard on anther moniter using the same desktop? |
| 09:15.32 | maxyz | tvlooy: Use dpkg -S /var/cache to list the packages that you'll need to reinstall |
| 09:15.44 | tremon | wonders if /var/cache debconf is the primary location for recording debconf answers and why |
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| 09:16.15 | Ivan_ | Can someone help me? |
| 09:16.44 | tvlooy | tremon apt-get download apt / dpkg -i complains about dependencies |
| 09:16.53 | tremon | !bat |
| 09:17.02 | tvlooy | maxyz: I recreated the dir but it doesn't really help |
| 09:17.22 | tvlooy | maxyz: pasted the output of dpkg -S in the gist as a comment |
| 09:17.38 | maxyz | Ivan_: Oh, multiseat, check this howto: https://wiki.debian.org/Multi_Seat_Debian_HOWTO |
| 09:17.42 | tvlooy | I'm guessing this is going to be a reinstall |
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| 09:17.54 | celphish | Elo |
| 09:18.07 | celphish | Got a quick question, if I'm about to add a line called: |
| 09:18.11 | Ivan_ | maxyz: Thanks. |
| 09:18.21 | celphish | "deb http://shell.ninthgate.se/packages/debian squeeze main" |
| 09:18.30 | celphish | but I'm using Weezy |
| 09:18.46 | celphish | so, should I just replace squeeze or do I have to browse to the site and use something? |
| 09:18.57 | celphish | http://forums.plexapp.com/index.php/topic/32852-plex-media-server-debian-repository/ |
| 09:19.02 | Ivan_ | maxyz: Is there any other distribution that support multiseat? |
| 09:19.09 | celphish | http://shell.ninthgate.se/packages/debian/dists/wheezy/main/source/ |
| 09:19.12 | celphish | example |
| 09:19.44 | petern_ | celphish, ask them |
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| 09:20.36 | tremon | celphish: theoretically that should work, but as petern says, you should really ask them. We can't support third-party repositories in this channel |
| 09:21.32 | tvlooy | meh, it's all borked |
| 09:21.32 | tvlooy | reinstall it is :-) |
| 09:21.38 | tvlooy | thanks for the tips |
| 09:21.59 | maxyz | Ivan_: Yes, it's a X / kernel thing, (you need to access the input devices as ev, and to have different X sessions in different video outputs), more than a distro thing. |
| 09:22.55 | petern_ | Hmm, he said same desktop, which means one session to me, which just requires mirroring the display. |
| 09:23.38 | Ivan_ | maxyz: Can that multiseat let 2 person to use the computer at the same time? |
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| 09:25.10 | tremon | Ivan_: the debian documentation is from a few years ago though, and multiseat has gone through several different approaches. The current solutions require libsystemd-login0, but I'm unsure if that's ready for public consumption |
| 09:26.15 | Ivan_ | tremon: What to you mean and what is libsystemd-login0? |
| 09:26.40 | tremon | Ivan_: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/logind/ |
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| 09:27.18 | tremon | you only need to read the first few lines, the rest is developer documentation |
| 09:27.32 | Ivan_ | tremon: Thanks |
| 09:29.15 | Ivan_ | tremon: What does that mean "manages user logins and seats in various ways." does that means that you can use a computer with 2 person at the same time? |
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| 09:33.00 | tremon | Ivan_: "use a computer with 2 persons at the same time" has been possible since the birth of unix. What you're looking for is to partition a single computer into separate kvm combinations (aka seats) |
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| 09:34.27 | Ivan_ | tremon: No, what I am looking for a person using a graphical session and another person is using a graphical session on the same computer. |
| 09:34.31 | hramrach | thre is also multiseat support in X11 that does not require virtualization |
| 09:34.41 | Ivan_ | tremon: And at the same time. |
| 09:34.44 | hramrach | it's very experimental |
| 09:35.11 | tremon | Ivan_: multiple sessions using the same keyboard and mouse? |
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| 09:35.26 | Ivan_ | hramrach: "does not require virtualization" means? |
| 09:35.33 | hramrach | using virtualization for multiseat would be also very experimental - the assignemnt of input and graphics |
| 09:35.52 | bezaban | hmm.. 2 xservers with different configurations run on different virtual terminals? |
| 09:35.53 | tremon | Ivan_: and multiple sessions using the same monitor? |
| 09:36.15 | hramrach | kvm is kernel virtualization something, among other thigns |
| 09:36.18 | Ivan_ | tremon: no, but different monitor as you have 2 monitor. |
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| 09:37.01 | slnls | hello. any idea where to look for a netbook that works really good with debian. prefer lenovo. {lenovos website is broken all the time :[ } |
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| 09:37.08 | hramrach | yes, X11 should be able create separate sessions when you have more than one of each monito/keyboard/mouse |
| 09:37.28 | Ivan_ | hamrach: So I can use kvm to login to x at different monitor with different user at the same time? |
| 09:37.34 | celphish | woohoo, it works |
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| 09:37.49 | celphish | it's weird though that i couldn't use sudo to echo in stuff in sources.list, I had to su there |
| 09:37.53 | hramrach | slnls: lenovo website tends to work for me |
| 09:38.09 | tremon | Ivan_: so, you have a computer with multiple keyboards, mice and monitors attached, and you want them to work independently and serve different users. How is that not "partitioning into separate kvm combinations"? |
| 09:38.32 | celphish | <3 debian :D |
| 09:38.45 | hramrach | slnls: but maybe here? http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux-laptop-lctp.html |
| 09:38.46 | tremon | celphish: echo "test" | sudo tee $outputfile. sudo echo > means that echo runs as root, but the > runs as your own user |
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| 09:40.11 | Ivan_ | tremon: What does "partitioning into saparate kvm combinations" means? |
| 09:40.13 | celphish | tremon: you mean >> runs as your own user? |
| 09:40.22 | celphish | so if I had used just one > it would have worked? |
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| 09:40.48 | tremon | Ivan_: it means what I wrote in the first part of that comment :) |
| 09:41.42 | Ivan_ | tremon: "First part of the comment"? |
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| 09:42.31 | hramrach | slnls: does not seem like Lenovo makes any netbooks - the small thing they offer is x131e |
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| 09:43.44 | Ivan_ | tremon: You means that if I need to use the multiseat, I need to partition into saparate kvm combinations"? |
| 09:44.43 | hramrach | Ivan_: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xorg_multiseat |
| 09:44.45 | tremon | celphish: > and >> are shell operations, meaning that they are performed by your shell (bash), not by the command you're running. |
| 09:45.26 | Ivan_ | hramrach: Is that the same as the step in ubuntu and linux mint? |
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| 09:45.45 | hramrach | Ivan_: there are guides for Ubuntu too, yes |
| 09:45.58 | celphish | tremon: oh, ok, thanks for the info |
| 09:46.18 | hramrach | but Arch tends to have the best generally useful docs and there does not seem to be a guide for Debian |
| 09:46.23 | tremon | Ivan_: no, I'm saying that using multiseat /is/ "to partition [your machine] into separate kvm combinations". It's not a prerequisite, it's a description of the process |
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| 09:46.33 | hramrach | feel free to write one if you get it working |
| 09:46.50 | Ivan_ | hramrach: so all of them are using multiseat. |
| 09:46.58 | Ivan_ | thanks |
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| 09:47.53 | hramrach | tremon: ok, I guess you maybe use a different meaning of kvm. tlas are just too short and too few |
| 09:47.55 | Ivan_ | tremon: What if I have just one graphic card? |
| 09:48.21 | tremon | hramrach: ah. kvm as in keyboard/video/mouse, not kernel virtual machine :) |
| 09:49.21 | hramrach | actually there is one or two: https://wiki.debian.org/Multi_Seat_Debian_HOWTO http://www.automation.dn.ua/linux/3d-multiseat_en.html |
| 09:49.42 | tremon | Ivan_: it's the same, if your graphics cards has multiple monitors (multiple heads) attached. If both users are working on the same monitor, it's called multi-pointer X |
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| 09:50.37 | Ivan_ | tremon: If I have just one graphic card and I use multi-pointer x, will it not work? |
| 09:51.13 | hramrach | it will work differently |
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| 09:51.35 | tremon | Ivan_: multi-pointer X is not multi-seat. You cannot login with two users on the same monitor at the same time |
| 09:51.55 | hramrach | you can. there is stull like Xephyr |
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| 09:52.18 | hramrach | *stuff |
| 09:52.20 | Ivan_ | tremon: What if I have a graphic card and I use multiseat? |
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| 09:52.43 | tremon | Ivan_: what about it? |
| 09:52.59 | Ivan_ | tremon: What will happen? |
| 09:53.25 | hramrach | you will have two X servers running with two sessions |
| 09:54.02 | Ivan_ | hramrach: Will it not work if I only have 1 graphic card? |
| 09:55.00 | hramrach | it may |
| 09:55.08 | hramrach | see the guides |
| 09:55.40 | Ivan_ | hramrach: So you mean it needs 2 graphic card to do that. |
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| 09:57.19 | tremon | Ivan_: you need 2 monitors and the driver needs to support access sharing. All open-source drivers support it, can't vouch for blobs |
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| 09:57.52 | hramrach | Ivan_: you can attach more than one monitor to most cards these days |
| 09:58.05 | Ivan_ | tremon: So 1 graphic card may work too. |
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| 09:58.18 | tremon | yes |
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| 09:58.54 | Ivan_ | tremon: Can I get 3 monitors, mouse and keyboard to work too using multiseat? |
| 10:00.40 | tremon | Ivan_: last I checked, the kernel had 64 vt's to play with. don't know how many usb devices you can connect to a single root hub |
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| 10:01.32 | Ivan_ | tremon: Maybe I can use 3 hubs. |
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| 10:01.57 | quinso | What do I do about broken package that apt-get remove fails to remove? |
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| 10:02.46 | Ivan_ | thanks |
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| 10:03.56 | quinso | http://pastebin.com/JYDRk43u |
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| 10:04.42 | tremon | quinso: run fsck on your /var partition, check dmesg for hard disk errors |
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| 10:13.43 | quinso | I ran fsck on my root partition (including /var partition) and it's the 2-nd time there were errors. Does that mean my ssd is dead? |
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| 10:15.08 | tremon | might be dying, might be broken firmware. No way to tell. You could use smartctl to check the ssd health, but I wouldn't trust that disk |
| 10:15.13 | tremon | what make/model is it? |
| 10:16.05 | quinso | OCZ-AGILITY3 |
| 10:16.30 | tremon | you're not running btrfs on /, are you? |
| 10:17.04 | quinso | I am not |
| 10:17.14 | quinso | There is no fsck for btrfs, is there? |
| 10:17.18 | omarek | Hi, I suspect a program is buggy/doesn't work on my machine. Can someone help me confirm ? Steps: 1) apt-get install aview 2) asciiview path/to/some/picture.jpg 3) Try to save the image by pressing 's' and choosing a format. | I'm unable to save. As soon as I choose a format, the program stops responding to keyboard input. |
| 10:17.47 | omarek | It's a fun program to transform images to ASCII art. |
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| 10:18.25 | tremon | quinso: I'd say it's highly likely that your disk is bad |
| 10:18.54 | quinso | Any way to check that? |
| 10:19.10 | quinso | test |
| 10:19.12 | quinso | or something |
| 10:19.46 | tremon | thtough smartctl, but how useful that output is depends on what smart commands the disk supports |
| 10:19.48 | quinso | So I did fsck but trying to remove vim still reports error |
| 10:20.10 | moldy | quinso: works for me. have a look at your kernel log. you could also try to strace the program to get a clue of what is happening. |
| 10:20.33 | moldy | quinso: which error? |
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| 10:20.38 | tremon | probably the vim info files are now corrupt. can you paste the current errors? |
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| 10:20.47 | moldy | quinso: ah, sorry. i confused you with omarek. |
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| 10:21.47 | quinso | tremon: http://pastebin.com/0KCe0r5L |
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| 10:22.56 | tremon | quinso: you did fsck, and you're still getting io errors? that's fun. Try removing that file, or chmod a-x on the offending files |
| 10:23.01 | quinso | Also I tried doing "cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/vim.prerm" - the deinstallation file |
| 10:23.09 | quinso | And it reports input/output error |
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| 10:55.41 | giuscri | Why if I type `find <samplePath> -name "doesNotExist" -type d|xargs ls` it prints me every file it's in `<samplePath>`? I would expect `xargs ls` to print no line at all. |
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| 10:56.24 | tremon | what does ls without arguments do? |
| 10:56.57 | giuscri | tremon: uhm ...printing every file in the current directory indeed. |
| 10:57.10 | tremon | :) |
| 10:57.20 | Sevet | xargs -r ls |
| 10:57.20 | giuscri | tremon: though, that's why I used `xargs` |
| 10:57.32 | Sevet | -r doesn't run ls if it has no args to give it |
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| 10:57.51 | tremon | that's --no-run-if-empty |
| 10:58.01 | tremon | ah both :) |
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| 10:58.29 | Sevet | yep, -r is the shorthand |
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| 10:59.18 | tremon | giuscri: I'm confused though. Why would you need xargs ls in the first place? or is it just to test? |
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| 11:00.08 | pexio | I have a problem with time, 'date' shows time in GMT even though I've set timezone to Europe/Copenhagen with dpkg-reconfigure tzdata, how can I get date and all logs to run at my time? |
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| 11:02.07 | giuscri | tremon: it is just a test. I'm trying to figure out how find works, and I've stumbled in that problem. |
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| 11:02.35 | tremon | ok, just know that find itself (without xargs ls) does basically the same |
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| 11:03.47 | giuscri | tremon: yet my original trouble remaines. I don't get why I would use the `-print` option in `find` since it works fine also with that option off. |
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| 11:03.58 | hroi | hi |
| 11:04.14 | hroi | I can't find the package "java-package" |
| 11:04.24 | hroi | it should contain make-jpkg |
| 11:04.35 | hroi | anyone know where I can find this tool... make-jpkg ? |
| 11:04.36 | tremon | you need -print if you want it to combine with other actions, e.g. if you use -delete or -prune then find will no longer list the files it found |
| 11:04.57 | tremon | ,v java-package |
| 11:04.58 | judd | Package: java-package on i386 -- wheezy/contrib: 0.50+nmu2; jessie/contrib: 0.53; sid/contrib: 0.53 |
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| 11:05.10 | giuscri | hroi: try with `aptitude search java` |
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| 11:05.19 | tremon | hroi: java-package is in contrib, make sure it's enabled in your sources.list |
| 11:05.20 | giuscri | hroi: and see which tool you need |
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| 11:05.35 | hroi | guiscri ahh probably that is it. |
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| 11:06.30 | phix | hroi likes to install packages that are not support by deian |
| 11:06.34 | phix | debian* |
| 11:06.40 | pexio | hroi: you can also look it up the webpage: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=java-package |
| 11:06.49 | giuscri | tremon: ook! Now I understand |
| 11:06.54 | giuscri | tremon: thank you so much =) |
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| 11:08.30 | hroi | i dont see any edited out contrib? |
| 11:08.46 | hroi | ubuntu recommends installing sun java runtime through the package system |
| 11:08.53 | hroi | I mean debian recommends |
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| 11:09.00 | hroi | so I must use this package tool |
| 11:09.13 | tremon | hroi: then add it yourself, after "main" add "contrib" |
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| 11:10.36 | luxxor | What am I doing wrong when all mail get sent to /var/mail/$USER instead of /home/$USER/Maildir ? eventhough I've fixed the postfix main.cf file correctly (according to 4 different guides). :( |
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| 11:11.21 | Sevet | giuscri: -print is the default, so it's the same as using it with it off |
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| 11:13.22 | giuscri | Sevet: though is not the same if you use the `-delete` option, as instace. It was not clear to me =) |
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| 11:35.55 | peppegiu | ciao |
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| 11:59.50 | searching | how to install openbox under user home folder? |
| 12:00.08 | DammitJim | where do I find nice debian logos? |
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| 12:01.21 | tremon | www.debian.org/logos |
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| 12:04.17 | jumperswitch | Does debootstrap also clean up the apt-cache and other caches after installing? |
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| 12:05.35 | abrotman | if not, it's easy to do so |
| 12:06.01 | STMelon | DammitJim: you can also open up your browser of choice and select images (google is my home page) then type in debian logos . you can find quite a few nice looking logos there as well |
| 12:06.37 | searching | I need sudo to install openbox in home folder? |
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| 12:10.33 | jumperswitch | Does debootstrap also clean up the apt-cache and other caches after installing? |
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| 12:12.05 | babilen | jumperswitch: 13:05:35 <abrotman> if not, it's easy to do so |
| 12:12.11 | babilen | jumperswitch: TIAS! |
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| 12:13.12 | jumperswitch | babilen: ok, and now explain to me what TIAS means |
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| 12:13.18 | jumperswitch | babilen: I don't know all those abbrv. |
| 12:14.15 | babilen | jumperswitch: That's okay, you don't have to. TIAS mean "Try it and see" |
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| 12:14.48 | jumperswitch | babilen: ok, so I will have to check the apt cache folder of the new system then, right? |
| 12:15.02 | babilen | jumperswitch: My guess would be "no", but I am not entirely sure about that. Just test it. Do you run into problems due to the behaviour you are seeing? |
| 12:15.16 | daemonkeeper | or just http://lmgtfy.com/?q=TIAS+acronym |
| 12:15.40 | babilen | daemonkeeper: No, that would be too easy ;) |
| 12:15.55 | jumperswitch | daemonkeeper: when I do such things I always find some crap sites in front |
| 12:15.57 | abrotman | acronymfinder.org |
| 12:16.10 | jumperswitch | babilen: yes, the final size should be as small as possible |
| 12:16.18 | abrotman | sorry, .com |
| 12:16.18 | daemonkeeper | (first hit in http://lmgtfy.com/?q=TIAS+acronym) |
| 12:16.32 | jumperswitch | daemonkeeper: I have to add the word 'acronym' to it |
| 12:16.48 | daemonkeeper | well. Learning how to google helps :> |
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| 12:17.09 | abrotman | *facepalm* |
| 12:17.18 | jumperswitch | lol |
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| 12:22.05 | tempus_fol | FYI, the wtf tool in the bsdgames package will check your acronyms |
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| 12:22.51 | abrotman | the bot could too, if it had that binary installed |
| 12:23.07 | omarek | tempus_fol: Probably that's where the bot at ##crawl learned it from. |
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| 12:27.30 | DammitJim | ty, I don't know why I thought there were some official ones |
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| 12:41.16 | lapache | Hello, after boot my debian squeeze doesn't have network, my interfaces(eth0 and lo) are down... This is a debootstraped system. Any idea ? |
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| 12:42.07 | tremon | lapache: what's in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 12:50.07 | raz0 | is there any easy way to get all dependancies for a deb so that I can download it all and install it via USB on another machine (which has no network)? |
| 12:50.34 | abrotman | apt-zip perhaps |
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| 12:53.28 | raz0 | I just need enough to get network running on the other machine |
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| 12:53.46 | lapache | tremon, my file is correct and there is no errors in logs :/ |
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| 12:53.50 | mumpitzel | raz0: apt-offiline? |
| 12:53.56 | mumpitzel | raz0: wlan? |
| 12:53.58 | raz0 | so a newer kernel (from wheezy backports) and some wifi things |
| 12:53.59 | lours974 | On another computer: apt-get clean; apt-get install -d the.deb; cp /var/cache/apt/archives /theusket |
| 12:54.00 | Agiofws | hey guys |
| 12:54.06 | raz0 | mumpitzel: yes |
| 12:54.19 | mumpitzel | netinst should have all you need, all of the wpa stuff |
| 12:54.37 | Agiofws | how do i reboot into my distro with my home partition unmounted ? |
| 12:54.45 | themill | lapache: do you even have ifupdown installed? |
| 12:54.48 | mumpitzel | raz0: for the kernel you need the kernel itself and initramfs-tools |
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| 12:55.44 | Sevet | is there any way to boot a netinst hosted on another server on a nfs/samba over the internet? perhaps from grub? |
| 12:55.47 | Agiofws | If the partition is not currently mounted, this message indicates |
| 12:55.48 | Agiofws | it was improperly unmounted, and you should run fsck before continuing. |
| 12:56.07 | Agiofws | how can i force my distro into fsck ? |
| 12:56.11 | raz0 | I see; I will try to install the wlan stuff first |
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| 12:56.23 | raz0 | and then the newer kernel |
| 12:56.32 | jhutchins | Agiofws: shutdown -Fr now |
| 12:56.43 | themill | dpkg: tell Agiofws about forcefsck |
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| 12:57.37 | jhutchins | lapache: What happens if you manually start networking? |
| 12:57.59 | Agiofws | ok thanks |
| 12:58.20 | lapache | manually "dhclient etho0" works well, ifupdown installed and networking script in /etc/rc* ok ... |
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| 13:02.22 | ms_ | hi all! |
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| 13:02.54 | ms_ | does anyone know what this mean ? http://pastealacon.com/33333 |
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| 13:03.24 | ms_ | I'm afraid that my hardDisk is broken :'( |
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| 13:03.50 | ms_ | it was from another computer |
| 13:04.14 | Sevet | they're filesystem errors, run fsck |
| 13:04.18 | tremon | ms_: so far, there are no hardware errors in the log. |
| 13:05.21 | Sevet | ms_: worth checking for any hardware errors logged elsewhere or bad sectors with smartmontools though |
| 13:05.23 | ms_ | I can't paste from the other pc, but it looks like: |
| 13:05.26 | ms_ | Multiply-claimed block(s) in inode 131144: 942467 942778 ....... |
| 13:05.42 | ms_ | 945666 945789 |
| 13:05.45 | ms_ | ............... |
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| 13:10.58 | ms_ | Oh o.O . |
| 13:11.08 | ms_ | I don't know what happened |
| 13:11.13 | ms_ | but now I think it is OK |
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| 13:13.31 | jhutchins | ms_: I would recommend running fsck on that device, |
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| 13:16.10 | ms_ | jhutchins, http://pastealacon.com/33334 |
| 13:16.24 | boudiccas | where does mysql keep [a] its database, and [b] its memory of passwords please? i'm trying to install mysql but am unable to log into it due to it disallowing me access with this 'ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)' |
| 13:16.34 | Static | I'm seeing "debian-edu-update-netblock: making sure netblock is disabled" in my logs... anyone know what this is and if theres a way to stop it? |
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| 13:17.05 | Sevet | boudiccas: a) the data_dir, usually /var/lib/mysql b) within the database in the 'mysql' database |
| 13:17.18 | Sevet | !tell boudiccas about reset root |
| 13:17.19 | boudiccas | ah, right, thanks Sevet |
| 13:17.32 | Sevet | oh wait, that's a #mysql factoid... |
| 13:17.41 | boudiccas | Sevet; nothing from judd or dpkg |
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| 13:18.18 | tremon | boudiccas: iirc the database password is stored plain-text under /etc/mysql (at least the one used by mysql's package scripts) |
| 13:18.33 | boudiccas | okay, ta |
| 13:18.58 | Sevet | that's the debian-sys-maint@localhost user, which has the same privileges as root |
| 13:19.11 | Sevet | <ubiquity_bot> Stop the mysqld server, add 'skip-grant-tables=1' to my.cnf under [mysqld], start the mysqld server, connect using 'mysql -u root' and do 'use mysql;' then do 'UPDATE user SET Password = PASSWORD('new_pwd') WHERE User = 'root';', clean up my.cnf and restart the mysqld server, test with 'mysql -u root -p' by entering your new password at the prompt. (threnody) |
| 13:19.18 | Sevet | that's the #mysql factoid |
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| 13:19.57 | odin_ | hi there, with debian dhcp, it applies the -1 option to dhclient, how do I remove this? this makdes DHCP 1 shot (3 retried then it exits) |
| 13:20.36 | odin_ | I wish the system to keep requesting DHCP, I don't understand why many Linux installs use -1 as a default option |
| 13:20.59 | themill | odin_: how are you invoking dhclient? |
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| 13:21.23 | odin_ | the system invokes it, so maybe if I understand the answer to that question, I could modify where -1 is provided |
| 13:21.33 | tremon | it doesn't: dhclient -v -pf $pid -lf $lease eth0 |
| 13:21.44 | odin_ | system as in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 13:22.09 | odin_ | with an entry 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' this causes dhclient to be run (by the system) |
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| 13:22.38 | odin_ | I have no idea what you are on about in relation to "the debian system" does not invoke dhclient |
| 13:23.34 | themill | odin_: so the "networking" init script uses tools in ifupdown to bring up the interfaces; I've never seen them use that option. |
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| 13:23.46 | themill | odin_: which version of debian is this? |
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| 13:23.59 | odin_ | but "ps uax" shows the option -1, it is wheezy on RPi |
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| 13:24.29 | tremon | that's raspbian, no? |
| 13:24.37 | jelly | could be armel debian |
| 13:24.50 | odin_ | yes sure: Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #371 PREEMPT Thu Feb 7 16:31:35 GMT 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux |
| 13:26.02 | tremon | odin_: none of the debian ifupdown dhclient recipes contain -1, you can verify by running apt-get source ifupdown and inspecting inet.defn |
| 13:26.33 | tremon | although I'm running jessie here, not wheezy |
| 13:27.20 | odin_ | it has /etc/ifplugd but I can not find the ifup script for eth0 |
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| 13:44.29 | ksk | hey guys. i wanted to use ulimits and edited /etc/limits.conf - as i understand that gets interpreted by pam and should be applied when a user logs in? im afraid it does not.. i set eg. "user soft nproc 30" but it that user logins "ulimit -u" shows "unlimited" - any idea whats wrong? |
| 13:45.09 | Infinitum | my debian won't post after install on the dawned uefi intel main board :/ |
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| 13:45.35 | gnarface | ksk: you might have to uncomment a line in a pam config |
| 13:45.48 | mumpitzel | POST is done before anything frm debian ever runs. maybe you need to tell us your problem in detail |
| 13:45.53 | gnarface | ksk: some file in /etc/pam.d i think |
| 13:46.11 | ksk | gnarface: "session required pam_limits.so |
| 13:46.15 | ksk | " is in there by default |
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| 13:47.06 | tremon | ksk: man pam_limits says the file path is /etc/security/limits.conf, not /etc/limits.conf |
| 13:47.07 | Infinitum | I just installed debian on the sata drive (USB boots just fine) after that the main board yawns and tells me there is no boot medium available (but i did just select the hdd) |
| 13:47.38 | ksk | ah, okay.. many thanks! |
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| 13:50.58 | nosklo | Infinitum: are you sure grub got installed in this drive at the end of installation? |
| 13:51.13 | tremon | Infinitum: if you're trying to use uefi boot, your disk must be gpt partitioned and must have an efi system partition. Inside that partition, /efi/boot/bootx64.efi must exist and be an efi executable (I might be off about the exact path) |
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| 13:53.08 | tremon | although I've always done the setup by hand, don't know how good the debian installer is about setting that up |
| 13:53.20 | jhutchins | tremon: Are the files for that partition readily available on the web? Are they device-specific? |
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| 13:55.20 | tremon | jhutchins: more or less. the partition must be fat32-formatted, and both grub and lilo have an efi loader. There's also shim and refind, and linux kernels since 3.0 (iirc) also have an efi-compatible header so can theoretically be booted directly |
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| 14:05.33 | jhutchins | decides to research "how do I restore my efi partition"... |
| 14:05.55 | tremon | the files aren't device-specific, unless secure boot is enabled. In that case the loader (aka efi executable) must be signed with a key that is known to the system. |
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| 14:06.29 | Infinitum | the auto install option 'use whole disk' is obviously not working for me :) I'll set it up manually thanks |
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| 14:10.01 | tremon | jhutchins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFI_System_partition -- seems I was wrong about the requirement for gpt partitioning, you can have an esp on mbr as well |
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| 14:11.45 | mumpitzel | tremon: don't you normally have GPT with a MBR set up the same, mirroring GPT? |
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| 14:13.36 | linux|newb | wheezy, ati radeon HD 5xxx - installed drivers, working added "Virtual 5760 2160" to Subsection "Display" of "Screen" section in xorg.conf and dual screen works but I'm only offered 1280x1024 as max res for either display... |
| 14:13.48 | linux|newb | how would I go about forcing an increase on that? |
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| 14:13.52 | tremon | mumpitzel: you can, but not normally iirc. Most tools create one disk-spanning mbr partition with type EE as a "protective partition", to make sure gpt-unaware tools still consider the disk partitioned |
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| 14:20.43 | DammitJim | is there a keyboard shortcut to delete a word (that has been separated by symbols vs spaces) |
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| 14:21.52 | Guest55517 | symbols vs spaces? |
| 14:21.58 | jhutchins | DammitJim: Editor-dependent. |
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| 14:22.22 | DammitJim | jhutchins, editor as in xterm? |
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| 14:22.40 | DammitJim | I guess I'm talking about been on a bash shell |
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| 14:23.28 | DammitJim | ok, got the answer |
| 14:23.31 | themill | DammitJim: in ESC backspace |
| 14:23.45 | themill | (in emacs mode) |
| 14:23.53 | DammitJim | thanks themill |
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| 14:24.01 | DammitJim | I meant on the bash shell |
| 14:24.10 | DammitJim | I need to use Ctrl + Backspace |
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| 14:24.31 | DammitJim | the problem I was having when working on the terminal was that if I wanted to delete a word inside a path, it would whack the whole path |
| 14:24.32 | DammitJim | :D |
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| 14:25.31 | grkblood13 | I'm trying to route a box through a debian based box I have but for whatever reason when I try to ping my destination from the source the packets won't go through the debian box. In sysctl.conf ipv4.ip_forward is enabled |
| 14:25.54 | grkblood13 | what could be the issue? |
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| 14:27.01 | jhutchins | grkblood13: iptables? |
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| 14:28.37 | grkblood13 | jhutchins: nope. just ran iptables stop and route still isnt passing through |
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| 14:32.21 | DANtheBEASTman | are there dev headers for lua? trying to build vim from source and I can't get lua support enabled, ./configure says no lua.h but I don't see lua-dev or similar in the repos |
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| 14:33.03 | DANtheBEASTman | oh, it's liblua-dev, whoops |
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| 14:34.47 | DANtheBEASTman | I relied on a build script for build-dep, instead of trying apt-get build-dep as well |
| 14:34.51 | jhutchins | grkblood13: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ |
| 14:35.19 | pyther-- | Hello, I have a webserver running wheezy, lighttpd, php5, mysql. I've been thinking on adding a 2nd server if anything were to happen to my primary one. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to achieve this? Basically what I would want is to mirror the 2 servers. |
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| 14:38.50 | jumperswitch | OK |
| 14:39.30 | linux|newb | flash content just went black and white in wheezy... any ideas? |
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| 14:40.29 | jhutchins | pyther--: Simplest would be a periodic rsync. |
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| 14:41.38 | jhutchins | linux|newb: Really? That's pretty cool. |
| 14:41.49 | linux|newb | jhutchins: also sucks :P |
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| 14:42.24 | jumperswitch | hi |
| 14:42.36 | jumperswitch | What Debian package is for ps command? |
| 14:43.23 | pyther-- | jhutchins, So I set up the rsync and then I use lighttpd loadbalancing to make the connections go between the servers? |
| 14:43.57 | jumperswitch | What Debian package is for ps command? |
| 14:44.35 | mumpitzel | !tell jumperswitch about search |
| 14:45.01 | babilen | dpkg: tell jumperswitch -about apt-file |
| 14:45.04 | babilen | dpkg: tell jumperswitch -about standard |
| 14:45.29 | babilen | jumperswitch: Sounds as if you "forgot" to install the standard task during the initial installation and are now missing, well, standard tools |
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| 14:46.00 | jumperswitch | babilen: you mean those important packages, right? |
| 14:46.34 | jumperswitch | the point is when I search for ps using aptitude search, I get also results containing ps in its package name and this list is huge |
| 14:46.51 | babilen | jumperswitch: Yes, "important" packages are, among others, part of the standard task |
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| 14:47.47 | babilen | jumperswitch: Sure, you want to use apt-file for this. With a name such as ps it typically also helps to use a suitable regular expression such as in the following command: apt-file search -x "bin/ps$" |
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| 14:48.17 | mumpitzel | or just go to http://packages.debian.org and search there |
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| 14:59.50 | jumperswitch | right |
| 15:00.04 | jumperswitch | mumpitzel: but one has to specify the complete path, not just the executable name |
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| 15:05.57 | mumpitzel | jumperswitch: no that's not true |
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| 15:21.50 | hfp | Hi guys! I don't understand what is going on. I have an nfs share on my Debian server. I set all_squash to nfs:nfs for the exported dir. On my Mac, when I mount the exported directory and I create a new folder, it is created as nfs:nfs on the server. Now I also have a user deluged that belongs to the group nfs. I create directory delugedir with permissions 775 owner deluged:deluged. On the server, when I sudo -u nfs touch delugedir/lala it works. But when I use th |
| 15:21.51 | hfp | to touch delugedir/lala2 on the exported mount, I do not have permission to write. I mounted the dir on the Mac with the option nosuid. What am I missing? I read the man pages for nfs and mount but I'm at my witts end... Thanks! |
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| 15:23.37 | Guest11591 | Is there one valid reason to use Debian on a desktop instead of other distros that are more up to date ? |
| 15:24.30 | jelly | Guest11591: please go read /msg dpkg why debian |
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| 15:25.46 | Guest11591 | I have a problem with the root Terminal |
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| 15:26.37 | Guest11591 | I am using Jessie, and sometimes it just doesnt launch and I have to reboot and relaunch it |
| 15:26.51 | Guest11591 | I click on it and nothing happens |
| 15:27.40 | Guest11591 | Any suggestions? |
| 15:28.14 | mtn | Guest11591: you do realize that jessie is testing and may have problems from time to time? |
| 15:28.30 | Guest11591 | yes but it isnt unstable |
| 15:28.36 | Guest11591 | that is a real bug |
| 15:28.43 | mtn | Guest11591: so report it |
| 15:28.43 | Guest11591 | not a minor one |
| 15:28.52 | Guest11591 | I will |
| 15:28.55 | mtn | Guest11591: that is what testing is for |
| 15:29.29 | Guest11591 | maybe its just my installation |
| 15:29.43 | Guest11591 | so Im trying to make sure its worth reporting |
| 15:30.28 | mtn | Guest11591: you could go to #debian-next on oftc server, that is for testing and unstable support |
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| 15:30.42 | Guest11591 | ok thanks |
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| 15:36.55 | roothorick | upgraded to wheezy, now depmod is suddenly taking an excruciatingly long time. Why? |
| 15:37.31 | linedash | strace -f depmod |
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| 15:38.06 | jelly | roothorick: more than 15-30 seconds? |
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| 15:44.15 | jelly | roothorick: it will take a lot of time when being called the first time, if the files are not cached; if you call it again when they're cached it's much faster. Consequently, on a machine strained for memory, it would usually be slow. |
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| 15:49.30 | jhutchins | If aptitude can't find a package that's clearly available, what's the best bet to rebuild the index? Remove /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin? |
| 15:50.51 | jelly | jhutchins: even after an update? |
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| 15:53.19 | jhutchins | Yeah, can't find lynx |
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| 15:53.53 | jhutchins | jelly: Very crufty system, at one time it was pulling packages from four different releases with no pinning. |
| 15:53.57 | jelly | can you tell yourself about bat, just to exclude something obvious |
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| 15:54.35 | jelly | anything* obvious |
| 15:55.39 | jhutchins | jelly-home: Yeah, that's it, not getting the main repo. |
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| 15:56.33 | DANtheBEASTman | if I'm not mistaken, you can use apt-get to download sources and compile them, yes? |
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| 15:56.42 | DANtheBEASTman | not just build-deps I mean |
| 15:56.57 | roothorick | jelly-home: plenty more. Like, 10+ minutes. I've never actually let it finish |
| 15:57.13 | jhutchins | jelly-home: It appears that release squeze is not valid. |
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| 16:13.46 | jhutchins | DANtheBEASTman: Correct. Provided, of course, that you have a deb-src entry. |
| 16:14.40 | jhutchins | DANtheBEASTman: apt-get -b source <package> |
| 16:15.57 | jelly | roothorick: oh, in that case I recommend looking at what it does (with strace, like suggested above) |
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| 16:18.39 | Jonuz | Argh, did updates in 12.10 break something in gnome-shell? |
| 16:19.27 | jelly | Jonuz: wrong channel? |
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| 16:20.05 | Jonuz | No? I mean when debian was updated to 7.2 |
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| 16:20.43 | jelly | oh alrighty then, 12.10 sounded vaguely like something else |
| 16:21.16 | Jonuz | Oh, sorry :P |
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| 16:21.34 | Jonuz | After that update top panel has been bugging |
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| 16:23.15 | Jonuz | There is much dots in top panel and it looks really annoying, even if I look some video in full screen those dots will appear |
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| 16:26.11 | freebirD2 | you guys, I need to enable driver in kernel for ath5k/ath9k , is there a way I can do that without having to recompile the kernel ? is it enabled already ? how do I check that ? |
| 16:26.37 | jhutchins | !ath5k |
| 16:26.37 | dpkg | ath5k is a completely free (no proprietary HAL) Linux kernel driver supporting PCI/PCIe 802.11a/bg wireless LAN devices with Atheros chips. It does not require firmware from userspace. See http://wiki.debian.org/ath5k for more information and supported devices. For 802.11n PCI/PCIe device support, ask me about <ath9k>. |
| 16:26.49 | jhutchins | !ath9k |
| 16:26.49 | dpkg | ath9k is a completely free (no proprietary HAL) Linux kernel driver supporting PCI/PCIe 802.11n wireless LAN devices with Atheros chips. It does not require firmware from userspace. See http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k for more information and supported devices. For Atheros 802.11n USB device support, ask me about <ath9k_htc>, <carl9170>. |
| 16:27.04 | amospalla | anyone can recommend a nice bind web interface? |
| 16:27.21 | Diddi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.13 | jhutchins | amospalla: What's your actual goal? |
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| 16:28.27 | jhutchins | shudders at the thought of users maintaining bind. |
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| 16:29.05 | amospalla | jhutchins: internal company add/removal of records, no dhcp here |
| 16:29.20 | amospalla | 2-3 guys modifying them |
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| 16:30.43 | jubo2 | Should I isntall i386 or ia64 ? .. I'm on a i5 processor ( a few years old ) |
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| 16:31.39 | jelly | jubo2: either amd64 or i385 will work. Use amd64. |
| 16:31.45 | daemonkeeper | You want amd64, if anything. Not ia64 |
| 16:31.51 | jubo2 | what's the difference |
| 16:31.52 | jelly | erm i386. |
| 16:32.01 | daemonkeeper | One runs on your system, the other not. |
| 16:32.10 | jubo2 | yeah.. I hear Linus complained that ia64 is sheiße |
| 16:32.15 | jelly | ia64 is not for consumer hardware that you have |
| 16:32.17 | daemonkeeper | ia64 is for Intel Itanium systems. |
| 16:33.17 | jubo2 | Does using AMD64 or i386 have any difference for softwares available for installation ? |
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| 16:33.49 | daemonkeeper | jubo2: Some old non-free software may not run on amd64. |
| 16:34.37 | jubo2 | I want only new programs |
| 16:35.21 | daemonkeeper | If in doubt, use am64 on decent systems. |
| 16:35.50 | berarma | !amd64 |
| 16:35.51 | dpkg | amd64 is the Debian architecture optimized for x86-64, aka AMD64. Intel Core 2, Core i3/i5/i7 and Xeon (since 2004) systems are x86-64. The AMD64 architecture also supports running Debian i386 with either a -686-pae or -amd64 kernel. See also <why amd64> and <why not amd64>. |
| 16:35.53 | jubo2 | 'k got it tnx |
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| 16:37.52 | berarma | !multiarch |
| 16:37.52 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
| 16:38.11 | berarma | jubo2: ^^^ this and related factoids might help you |
| 16:38.41 | jubo2 | berarma: yeah thanks.. I have some servers running, this OS is just for desktop stuff |
| 16:38.54 | jubo2 | gotta have Compiz UI candy |
| 16:39.11 | jubo2 | whatever the flavour of Linuxen, always install Compiz UI candy |
| 16:39.31 | jubo2 | It does the thing that's called "Exposé" in the OS X |
| 16:39.50 | jubo2 | Windows still doesn't have wetware friendly full scree task switcher |
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| 16:40.22 | freebirD2 | jhutchins, man, I've read, and downloades iw, |
| 16:40.40 | freebirD2 | but still doesn't work, I've downloaded a gnome app to help me out, but nothing |
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| 16:41.26 | freebirD2 | if I run modinfo ath9k, it's there |
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| 16:42.23 | berarma | freebirD2: first check the driver is loaded with ifconfig and/or lspci |
| 16:42.53 | freebirD2 | berarma, not it is, wlan1 |
| 16:42.57 | freebirD2 | it's there |
| 16:43.58 | jubo2 | Downloading DVD image 1 |
| 16:44.02 | freebirD2 | but my /etc/network/interfaces have no entry for thgat |
| 16:44.03 | freebirD2 | that |
| 16:44.07 | freebirD2 | berarma, |
| 16:44.15 | berarma | freebirD2: then you shouldn't worry about modules |
| 16:44.24 | freebirD2 | berarma, nice |
| 16:44.30 | berarma | freebirD2: is it a desktop or server? |
| 16:44.35 | freebirD2 | desktop |
| 16:44.39 | freebirD2 | berarma, |
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| 16:44.51 | berarma | default gnome desktop? |
| 16:44.54 | freebirD2 | it's right here, in my side |
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| 16:45.07 | freebirD2 | berarma, I've installed, but doesn't show in the menus |
| 16:45.12 | freebirD2 | i'll try to run manually |
| 16:45.33 | jhutchins | freebirD2: What doesn't show in which menus? |
| 16:45.34 | DammitJim | does restarting a service normally reclaim a PID? |
| 16:46.04 | berarma | freebirD2: it's a bit hard following you, please explain better what you're doing and what do you expect. Network should work automatically. |
| 16:46.13 | jhutchins | DammitJim: Which service? |
| 16:46.15 | freebirD2 | I've installed network-manager-gnome jhutchins berarma , |
| 16:46.39 | freebirD2 | I want t be able to see a list of wifi networks arround, |
| 16:46.49 | freebirD2 | since my board is installed now |
| 16:46.54 | berarma | freebirD2: n-m comes with the gnome desktop, you don't need to install it manually, do you have a gnome desktop? |
| 16:47.07 | spiffytech | I'm trying to install kernel 3.11.5 on my system. I ran downloaded the sources, ran "sudo make menuconfig" (changing almost nothing), "sudo make-kpkg clean", "sudo fakeroot make-kpkg -j4 --initrd kernel_image kernel_headers", and installed the resulting .debs. |
| 16:47.09 | spiffytech | However, When I reboot and log in, neither Gnome nor Fluxbox will come up; I just get an empty screen with the gdm wallpaper. What could be going wrong? |
| 16:47.28 | DammitJim | nevermind |
| 16:47.46 | freebirD2 | get it |
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| 16:47.56 | freebirD2 | berarma, jhutchins get it, tks to you guys |
| 16:48.08 | freebirD2 | I can see it now, very nice |
| 16:48.26 | jhutchins | spiffytech: logs |
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| 16:49.06 | spiffytech | jhutchins: I checked dmesg, syslog, and /var/log/gdm/ and nothing jumped out at me. Is there something in particular that I should be looking at/for? |
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| 16:55.19 | tkbx | apt-get is trying to install something from the Crunchbang repos that isn't a dependency of what I'm trying to install, and it keeps failing because the Crunchbang repos appear to be down. Isn't there some kind of list of packages that it tries to install if installing them failed last time? |
| 16:55.37 | tkbx | (and how can I reset it?) |
| 16:55.46 | ompaul | !crunchbang |
| 16:55.46 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
| 16:56.08 | tkbx | ... |
| 16:56.14 | tkbx | ompaul, this is an apt-get issue |
| 16:57.14 | tkbx | let me rephrase that... |
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| 16:57.50 | ompaul | tkbx: and this is not #crunchbang who may know about crunchbang reps we support Debian users for some reason, oh yeah the topic, it's not #debian-and-others ah yeah that's it ;-) |
| 16:57.51 | tkbx | apt-get is trying to install something from "a third party repo" that isn't a dependency of what I'm trying to install, and it keeps failing because "said repo" appears to be down. Isn't there some kind of list of packages that it tries to install if installing them failed last time? |
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| 16:58.35 | tkbx | crunchbang has nothing to do with this, I just thought it couldn't hurt to be more specific |
| 16:58.36 | mtn | tkbx: not-debian means not-here |
| 16:58.39 | Kobaz | is there a way to get a filename from a ext3 block number without using debugfs (ie: finding this on a mounted filesystem) |
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| 16:58.48 | tkbx | ... |
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| 16:59.22 | jubo2 | Shukran, shukran FLOSS devels ... |
| 16:59.41 | ompaul | tkbx: you have an aversion to doing things the way they might be solved --- that will get you far :) |
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| 17:00.09 | tkbx | ompaul, I'm trying to say it has _nothing_ to do with crunchbang |
| 17:00.23 | jubo2 | I pay 25€ / month, zero capital investment upfront, for a sizeable IaaS VPS-from-cloud server |
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| 17:00.37 | mumpitzel | tkbx: that doesn't matter in the slightest. either go to #crunchbang or ##linux to get support. you won't get it here |
| 17:00.51 | jubo2 | I remember when single instances of RDBMS cost 20,000-100,000 FIM |
| 17:00.52 | tkbx | ... |
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| 17:01.19 | ompaul | Kobaz: maybe locate foo and then ls -i foo note really sure if that helps |
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| 17:01.58 | stitch_ | hey there, I'm looking for help setting up my second monitor |
| 17:02.09 | mumpitzel | Kobaz: check the content of the inode/block and then grep the whole disk for it |
| 17:02.11 | stitch_ | it is mirrored with the first monitor until the login screen appears. after this, I only have image in my first screen |
| 17:02.12 | jubo2 | all the software needed to run https://d.consumium.org/ #Diapsora* pod |
| 17:02.19 | jubo2 | is free of charge |
| 17:02.24 | mumpitzel | stitch_: use xrandr |
| 17:02.26 | stitch_ | i can't set it up with kde, gnome or Xorg -configure |
| 17:02.34 | jubo2 | so big thanks guys. I've never used a better free OS then Debian7 |
| 17:02.35 | Kobaz | mindstorm: inode != block... i have the block but not the inode |
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| 17:02.51 | Kobaz | oh |
| 17:02.52 | stitch_ | mumpitzel: how exactly? |
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| 17:02.59 | mumpitzel | Kobaz: doesn't matter what you have. check the content, search for content with grep or such. |
| 17:03.01 | ompaul | scratchs his head |
| 17:03.07 | Kobaz | debugfs can be used on a mounted filesystem... i didn't realize it takes some time to load |
| 17:03.18 | Kobaz | search the content of /dev/md1 for my block number? |
| 17:03.25 | Kobaz | that sounds like the hard way |
| 17:03.31 | mumpitzel | no. for the _content_ of your block numer |
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| 17:03.50 | Kobaz | that still sounds like the hard way |
| 17:03.50 | mumpitzel | search your /mountpoint for the content of the block number |
| 17:03.51 | ompaul | blkid |
| 17:04.04 | ompaul | lsblk |
| 17:04.16 | Kobaz | mumpitzel: oh, that's not going to work at all |
| 17:04.17 | ompaul | what exactly are you missing what have you got and what are you trying to do |
| 17:04.29 | mumpitzel | Kobaz: yes it is |
| 17:04.47 | Kobaz | mumpitzel: block number is an underlying filesystem piece, it's not going to show up in /path/to/fs |
| 17:04.50 | mumpitzel | searching /dev/md1 certainly won't give you a filename |
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| 17:05.00 | mumpitzel | Kobaz: you aren't reading |
| 17:05.07 | Kobaz | you aren't explaining |
| 17:05.22 | mumpitzel | what is the CONTENT of your block number? what is the content of said block? |
| 17:05.30 | Kobaz | i still don't know what you're trying to tell me |
| 17:05.33 | Kobaz | i don't know the contents of the block |
| 17:05.38 | mumpitzel | then LOOK at it! |
| 17:05.40 | ompaul | Kobaz: tell us what you have, know and want |
| 17:05.49 | Kobaz | i'm using debugfs |
| 17:05.57 | Kobaz | (i noticed it's working on a mounted filesystem) |
| 17:05.58 | ompaul | you were not two minutes ago |
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| 17:06.13 | ompaul | leaves him to it |
| 17:06.32 | Kobaz | my previous question was getting block numbers on a mounted filesystem, i thought since debugfs was "freezing" on me, that it wasn't working |
| 17:06.37 | Kobaz | but it loaded... so now i'm good |
| 17:07.01 | stitch_ | mumpitzel: xrandr outputs this: "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default" then, gives some information on output "default" and says nothing about a second display |
| 17:07.12 | stitch_ | kde and gnome both say i don't have a second display |
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| 17:07.44 | ompaul | stitch_: why are you asking in two channels leave it here as a result ;-) I'll ignore in the other channel |
| 17:07.52 | stitch_ | and xorg -configure fail saying " Number of created screens does not match number os detected devices" |
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| 17:08.08 | freebirD2 | berarma, jhutchins , I'm having problems, it takes a long time to connect, and when connects, wont ping the internet, the wifi works fine with my mobile |
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| 17:08.18 | freebirD2 | what can it be ? I'm using wpa2 |
| 17:08.23 | stitch_ | ompaul: sure, nobody was ansering there, so I tried here. it has 3x more people |
| 17:08.29 | mumpitzel | stitch_: what videocard, which connectors for monitors are used? |
| 17:08.38 | Kobaz | mumpitzel: my point was... with just a block number, and not having an inode or file contents... i don't believe your method would work |
| 17:08.52 | mumpitzel | Kobaz: and you are wrong |
| 17:09.14 | mumpitzel | all you need is block content |
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| 17:09.23 | Kobaz | and i don't have that? |
| 17:09.31 | stitch_ | the default is using the hdmi videocard exit, with a dvi adapter, the other monitor is using the dvi exit |
| 17:09.46 | stitch_ | the videocard is a radeon |
| 17:09.59 | mumpitzel | Kobaz: if you have a block number you can look at the content. if you can't, you have no block number obviously |
| 17:10.06 | Linoob | freebirD2: have you ever had hardware problems with the same computer? |
| 17:10.18 | mumpitzel | stitch_: which driver and which videochip? |
| 17:10.33 | Linoob | I mean with your Wifi |
| 17:10.39 | Kobaz | obviously i do have a block number, since syslog is giving it to me |
| 17:10.42 | freebirD2 | hm, no, |
| 17:10.42 | freebirD2 | all works fine, Linoob |
| 17:10.42 | freebirD2 | the pci wifi card is brand new |
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| 17:11.17 | stitch_ | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Caicos [Radeon HD 6450] |
| 17:11.24 | mumpitzel | freebirD2: what wlan chip is it, what does dmesg and syslog say? |
| 17:11.39 | stitch_ | i have installed no driver, everything is 'as is' from debian 7.2 |
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| 17:11.54 | mumpitzel | so you use the "radeon" driver |
| 17:11.58 | Linoob | Then you should use a hardwre detection tools and check in Debian repos for the correct driver.Probably you will find the drivers in non free repos |
| 17:12.10 | Linoob | hardware detection tool* |
| 17:12.25 | mumpitzel | freebirD2: if you don't know, run lspci -nn |
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| 17:12.52 | stitch_ | https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo this? |
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| 17:13.14 | mumpitzel | stitch_: you can use fglrx if you want but you shouldn't have to |
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| 17:13.38 | freebirD2 | mumpitzel, atheros communications inc ar5007G wireless network adapter |
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| 17:15.05 | Linoob | atheros drivers are in the non-free repos.Do you know how to look for them? |
| 17:15.08 | smonchi | hello |
| 17:15.25 | mumpitzel | Linoob: they are not |
| 17:15.53 | Linoob | ok, anyways he should just install them |
| 17:16.03 | mumpitzel | Linoob: there is nothing to install |
| 17:16.29 | stitch_ | mumpitzel: xserver-xorg-video-radeon and xserver-xorg-video-ati was already installed |
| 17:16.33 | Linoob | what?so what are the drivers there for? |
| 17:16.53 | mumpitzel | Linoob: there are no nonfree ath5k drivers. which package name are you thinking about? |
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| 17:22.30 | Linoob | Package firmware-atheros wheezy (stable) (kernel): Binary firmware for Atheros wireless cards [non-free] 0.36+wheezy.1: all |
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| 17:22.44 | Linoob | this is from a package search |
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| 17:24.13 | Linoob | Package name is zd1211rw |
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| 17:25.01 | mumpitzel | Linoob: check the description of the package. it is not for ath5k chips |
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| 17:28.00 | jumperswitch | Is debootstrap minbase comparable to debian netboot minimal, only_debian=true, install_recommends=false installation? |
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| 17:30.40 | Linoob | So am I right or wrong? |
| 17:30.42 | mumpitzel | Linoob: AR5007UG != AR5007G. also the AR5007UG is a USB device. |
| 17:30.44 | mumpitzel | wrong |
| 17:31.03 | Linoob | yes but its basically the same device |
| 17:31.14 | Linoob | its just connected via usb |
| 17:31.17 | mumpitzel | wrong |
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| 17:31.26 | jumperswitch | anyone? it is an interesting question |
| 17:31.28 | jumperswitch | :) |
| 17:31.28 | mumpitzel | ar5007G pci is supported by ath5k |
| 17:31.51 | Linoob | ok then why did the guy have problems |
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| 17:32.07 | mumpitzel | he didn't give us any error messages, so how would we know? |
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| 17:32.39 | Linoob | i had the same problem with my ethernet drivers |
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| 17:46.42 | stitch_ | mumpitzel: i have installed the non free firmware and both my monitors now function perfectly ^^ thank you |
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| 17:52.34 | somiaj | jumperswitch: there will be some differences. I belive the netboot will install kernels while debootstrap will not |
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| 17:53.22 | somiaj | jumperswitch: in general though I would shoot for the 'standard' task as a minimial install, debootstrap and the netinstall both miss this by a few packages. the standard task is all packages with priority standard or higher and unless you are needing an embeded/extreamly minimial system it is best to install them all. |
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| 17:54.19 | somiaj | jumperswitch: also my experience with debootstrap is it fails to install locales and that is the first thing I do after debootstraping (: |
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| 18:28.11 | jumperswitch | somiaj: I need a minimal system, as small and simple as possible. It should only run apache2 and mysql (inside a lxc system container). |
| 18:28.29 | jumperswitch | somiaj: yes, this locale issue does not occur when using multistrap instead. |
| 18:28.45 | jumperswitch | somiaj: How do you install the locales btw? There is no package mechanism for this. |
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| 18:30.25 | Racqueteering | dont wanna seem like spam. But If you guys havent seen this |
| 18:30.40 | Racqueteering | www.cloudatcost.com |
| 18:30.58 | Racqueteering | $35 for a server hosted for life. If anyone needs one fyi haha |
| 18:31.30 | jumperswitch | Racqueteering: So one pays $35 and no further fees for a Server (what kind of server? kvm full kernel or xen)? |
| 18:31.46 | jumperswitch | Racqueteering: Any restriction? Domains included? |
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| 18:37.47 | jelly-home | jumperswitch, Racqueteering: lowendbox.com is over there --> or, at the very least, move this conversation to #debian-offtopic |
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| 18:38.29 | jelly-home | in fact, there is a #lowendbox |
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| 18:39.32 | LordDeath | can I run the gnome shell in 3D mode when I install the open-vm-tools package in wheezy? |
| 18:40.02 | LordDeath | I have wheezy in vmware VM |
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| 18:42.33 | Racqueteering | jelly-home: Its relevant bc its what im using and debian is one of the OS offerings |
| 18:42.44 | Racqueteering | anyway, jsut fyi |
| 18:42.48 | Racqueteering | not here to debate it |
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| 18:45.06 | jaami | kindly provide the link for debian gnome to install on my laptop |
| 18:45.42 | jaami | is there anyone to help ? |
| 18:45.46 | phogg | jaami: apt-get install gnome? |
| 18:46.33 | jelly-home | !install gnome |
| 18:46.33 | dpkg | To install GNOME: «apt-get install …» 1. 'task-gnome-desktop' (Debian installer default) 2. 'gnome' (recommended) 3. 'gnome-desktop-environment' (upstream GNOME) 4. 'gnome-core' (like 3, minus end-user applications) 5. 'gnome-session gdm3 gnome-network-manager' (minimalist, not recommended). You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
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| 18:46.48 | jaami | phogg, please let me know how to get stable debian and make live usb that i will use to install on my system |
| 18:47.20 | jaami | im using fedora and i will install debian. \ |
| 18:47.36 | lucide | http://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
| 18:47.36 | phogg | jaami: then ask about installing Debian, not GNOME |
| 18:47.55 | mumpitzel | jaami: do you use wlan to get onto the internet? |
| 18:47.55 | jaami | yes, sorry.. installing debian |
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| 18:48.21 | jaami | i have live cd of fedora but i dont want fedora. |
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| 18:48.45 | Link747 | Hi |
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| 18:48.53 | jaami | i use wifi lan to go on internet |
| 18:49.06 | jaami | yes i use wlan |
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| 18:49.38 | Link747 | I have a question about some suspicious temp files |
| 18:49.41 | jaami | please let me know if debian can be installed from usb |
| 18:49.53 | Link747 | Jaami |
| 18:50.03 | Link747 | It can, thats how I installed it |
| 18:50.06 | jaami | yes Link747 |
| 18:50.16 | mumpitzel | jaami: it can. any debian ISO file: cp debian.iso /dev/sdc (or whatever your usb stick is) |
| 18:50.17 | Link747 | it can |
| 18:50.31 | jumperswitch | Hi |
| 18:50.34 | mumpitzel | jaami: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/ if you have a 64bit CPU |
| 18:50.39 | lucide | jaami, use your search engine |
| 18:50.43 | jumperswitch | Can fsck scan during startup be removed? Is it just an init.d script? |
| 18:51.17 | mumpitzel | jumperswitch: no. you can change that how often fsck is run with e2fsc |
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| 18:51.35 | Link747 | I have a security questionn |
| 18:51.37 | jaami | you know , i get same error and i tried 3 times with different version of debian. the error is No installable kernal was found |
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| 18:52.05 | jumperswitch | mumpitzel: I want that it doesn't run at all, never, it is not needed in a lxc system container. Can set it to 0 (zero) using e2fsc? |
| 18:52.07 | jaami | why i get the kernal missing error |
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| 18:52.29 | mumpitzel | sorry, tune2fs of course, not e2fsck |
| 18:52.38 | Link747 | probably a bad iso |
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| 18:52.53 | lucide | tcheq de md5sum |
| 18:52.58 | lucide | of iso |
| 18:52.59 | jaami | Link747, i tried 3 times |
| 18:53.07 | Link747 | did you use dd command? |
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| 18:53.17 | jaami | please give me exact link that you know will work |
| 18:53.23 | lucide | or a bad software like unetbootin |
| 18:53.25 | jaami | oh no |
| 18:53.29 | mumpitzel | jaami: how did you create your debian usb stick? |
| 18:53.33 | jaami | i dont know dd command |
| 18:53.43 | mumpitzel | jaami: what exact command? |
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| 18:53.57 | jaami | i used unetbootin and gave it the iso i downloaded from debian site |
| 18:54.13 | mumpitzel | unetbootin is what caused the error. use "cp" instead |
| 18:54.14 | jaami | then i boot from usb |
| 18:54.30 | jaami | cp, ? |
| 18:54.35 | STMelon | cp = copy |
| 18:54.37 | jaami | oh ok its program? |
| 18:54.48 | jaami | oh copy |
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| 18:55.08 | mumpitzel | jaami: cp debian.iso /dev/sdc |
| 18:55.13 | jaami | no, actually if i copy the iso file directly on usb then it will not be bootable |
| 18:55.23 | lucide | ohhh |
| 18:55.43 | lucide | use dd command |
| 18:55.52 | jaami | in fact i will not have net access on my laptop when i install debian |
| 18:56.02 | lucide | in the terminal >> man dd |
| 18:56.28 | jaami | please help me |
| 18:56.39 | Link747 | ok do you have the iso |
| 18:56.41 | jaami | i want to make live usb of debian |
| 18:56.50 | lucide | use the http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 18:56.58 | jaami | yes i have the iso but i dont trust that iso |
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| 18:57.00 | Link747 | wht operating system are you on? |
| 18:57.11 | mumpitzel | jaami: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/ if you have a 64bit CPU then you have net access |
| 18:57.16 | jaami | i will download iso from link you will give me |
| 18:57.23 | jaami | ok good |
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| 18:57.35 | Link747 | Are you on windows? |
| 18:57.44 | jaami | cyes 64bit dell laptop |
| 18:57.57 | jaami | no im using fedora live cd |
| 18:58.18 | jaami | btw i used the sane link \ |
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| 18:58.43 | Link747 | ok wht directory is the iso file in? |
| 18:59.00 | jaami | there is download button on the debian page that autonatically got my 64bit info and i clicked on the button to download |
| 18:59.11 | Link747 | when you download it |
| 18:59.18 | Link747 | you use the dd command |
| 18:59.37 | Link747 | open the terminal |
| 18:59.38 | jaami | my whole system is gone, i had win7 but lost it then i had mint but lost mint too |
| 19:00.06 | Link747 | you download, use dd command to create usb |
| 19:00.14 | Link747 | dd is used from terminal |
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| 19:00.19 | jaami | ok i think you want me to install on this system that i am using for chat. its my riends laptop |
| 19:00.27 | jaami | but i can try as you tell me |
| 19:00.38 | jaami | ok wait pls |
| 19:00.53 | lucide | jaami: yes the link that mumpitzel gave you is right, then write dd if=/home/user/debian.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=32M |
| 19:00.55 | jaami | let me ownload dd command. i will come back |
| 19:01.19 | jaami | yes, plz wait i will follow instructions |
| 19:01.20 | lucide | fedora live have dd command |
| 19:01.30 | jaami | oh ok |
| 19:01.40 | jaami | let me open terminal |
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| 19:01.51 | Link747 | just download and tell us when youre done |
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| 19:02.41 | jaami | do you mean that i download iso first? |
| 19:02.45 | Link747 | yes |
| 19:02.50 | jaami | okay, thanks |
| 19:02.58 | Link747 | unless you already have the iso |
| 19:03.07 | lucide | yep the dd command is for burn ISO on USB |
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| 19:03.17 | lucide | in this case |
| 19:03.35 | lucide | is to** sorry |
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| 19:05.04 | Link747 | Does anyone know what these files are:AppData\Local\Temp\CRX_75DAF8CB7768\crl-set || AppData\Local\Temp\CRX_75DAF8CB7768\manifest.json.Are they trojans? |
| 19:05.21 | Link747 | in my case they were in /tmp |
| 19:05.34 | Link747 | but it was the same files |
| 19:05.56 | Link747 | Debian wheeze y btw, using chromium as a browser |
| 19:06.09 | mumpitzel | these are windows files. are you running a windows browser? |
| 19:06.17 | Link747 | no |
| 19:06.26 | mumpitzel | they are files from a browser |
| 19:06.33 | Link747 | chromium? |
| 19:06.53 | mumpitzel | probably. certificate revocation lists |
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| 19:08.06 | Link747 | Is there a chance that they are injected trojans ?I mean could someone have injected chromium extensions to get my serches |
| 19:08.10 | Link747 | searches* |
| 19:08.48 | zinx | javascript probably lets them get your history even without trojans :/ |
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| 19:09.45 | Link747 | yea i know but im just asking if theres a possibility that it was a hacker that installed them |
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| 19:10.12 | frikinz | there's always a possibility |
| 19:10.18 | Link747 | I never opened any attachments or downloaded anything |
| 19:10.44 | Link747 | so are CRX files normally found sometimes in /tmp |
| 19:10.49 | Link747 | ? |
| 19:10.57 | Link747 | or are they suspicious |
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| 19:12.29 | Link747 | Anyone? |
| 19:12.30 | frikinz | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.41 | Link747 | haha ok |
| 19:12.42 | frikinz | Link747: ^^ |
| 19:12.44 | mumpitzel | wonders what attachments are in browsers |
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| 19:13.34 | Link747 | no I meant that I never downloaded any suspicious atachments that could have been trojans . |
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| 19:13.49 | Link747 | Havent you heard of HoT linux trojan? |
| 19:14.10 | Link747 | it injects itself into browser and logs everything |
| 19:14.34 | mumpitzel | you write a lot of garbage, misuse your enter key and are just annoying |
| 19:15.01 | Link747 | Ok what would be the garbage in what I wrote? |
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| 19:15.42 | lysobit | Hi. I'm trying to setup IPv6 on a server. My information is "default IPv6 address 2a02: a80: 0:3081 :: 2/64 Gateway: 2a02: a80: 0:3081 :: 1". What address and gateway should I specify in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 19:15.55 | lysobit | Given that it's a /64 |
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| 19:16.32 | Link747 | mumpitzel: Its about time you get laid, with a woman this time. |
| 19:16.38 | Link747 | fagget |
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| 19:19.52 | Link747 | mumpitzel, heil Hitler.Youre from Germany arent you?fucking nazi |
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| 19:20.06 | mumpitzel | Link747: stop or you will be gone soon |
| 19:20.08 | buu | !ops |
| 19:20.09 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. |
| 19:20.14 | buu | dpkg: ops wakeu |
| 19:20.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: buu complains about: wakeu |
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| 19:20.59 | Link747 | mumpitzel: just answer you nazi fagget.why did you say i was writing garbage?fucking jew murderer |
| 19:21.24 | frikinz | Link747: now shut up. I'm also from germany |
| 19:21.27 | Link747 | calling people annoying behind a PC screen is easy |
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| 19:21.41 | jelly-home | way to overreact, dude |
| 19:21.42 | Link747 | Shut the fuck up and mind your own business. |
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| 19:21.47 | Link747 | man |
| 19:21.58 | mumpitzel | oh, a greek. explains a lot :( |
| 19:22.04 | ctmjr | wow wheres abrotman when you need him |
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| 19:22.30 | mumpitzel | at the shrink, working on his bear attack issues |
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| 19:22.52 | Link747 | mumpitzel: which country burned 6 million jews |
| 19:23.06 | Link747 | and killed 10 million poles |
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| 19:24.30 | orfix | Hi all, when I run "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade" I get lots of dependencies conflict... "open: 47618; closed: 74291; defer: 1040; conflict: 1034" I had to interrupt the command, what can I do to fix this ? |
| 19:24.36 | mist | Link747: knock it off |
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| 19:25.04 | mumpitzel | !tell orfix about bat |
| 19:25.07 | jelly-home | lysobit: well you were given the gateway address. Does it not work? |
| 19:25.26 | Link747 | mist: get laid man |
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| 19:25.37 | lysobit | jelly-home: how do I know if it works? |
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| 19:25.53 | mumpitzel | lysobit: you will have the internets! |
| 19:25.58 | jelly-home | lysobit: if you can ping a remote ipv6 server, then 2a02:a80:0:3081::1 works |
| 19:26.14 | jelly-home | lysobit: eg. ping6 security.debian.org |
| 19:26.22 | przemek | hello guys how to check by this dd if=/dev/zero of=iotest bs=64k count=16k conv=fdatasync |
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| 19:26.33 | przemek | coz I see this command checks only the /dev/sda |
| 19:26.39 | lysobit | jelly-home: I can't ping anything, I get From 2a02:a80:0:3081::4 icmp_seq=7 Destination unreachable: Address unreachable |
| 19:26.40 | przemek | I need to check /dev/sdb |
| 19:27.14 | mumpitzel | przemek: it doesn't check anything. it just creates a big empty file name "iotest" |
| 19:27.21 | jelly-home | lysobit: can you ping6 2a02:a80:0:3081::1? Pastebin the output of "ip -6 a" and "ip -6 r" |
| 19:27.42 | mumpitzel | przemek: what is your actual goal? |
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| 19:28.10 | przemek | mumpitzel: thanks so how to create bis empty file on /dev/sdb? |
| 19:28.17 | Khani | Hi guys |
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| 19:28.30 | mumpitzel | przemek: answer the question please |
| 19:28.35 | jaami | i got my own laptop now, its the dell 64bit. i lost connection because fedora hanged up. please let me have the same link you gave before to download debian. |
| 19:28.48 | Khani | Anyone who knows if debian i586 is pae restricted? |
| 19:28.52 | mumpitzel | jaami: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 19:29.02 | Khani | Im trying to make it run on a older machine |
| 19:29.03 | mumpitzel | Khani: there is no i586 |
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| 19:29.09 | Khani | ah |
| 19:29.16 | jaami | yes, thank you. i will come back when i get iso file. |
| 19:29.18 | mumpitzel | Khani: there is a 486 kernel which obviously has no PAE support |
| 19:29.26 | przemek | mumpitzel: 16384+0 records in |
| 19:29.27 | przemek | 16384+0 records out |
| 19:29.27 | przemek | 1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 9.91632 s, 108 MB/s |
| 19:29.28 | Khani | ic |
| 19:29.36 | Khani | thanks |
| 19:29.59 | mumpitzel | Khani: having PAE support and not using it is fine btw, won't hurt a bit |
| 19:30.01 | orfix | mumpitzel: here you go http://paste.debian.net/59283/ any idea ? |
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| 19:30.34 | lysobit | jelly-home: http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?46e281f7366d5968#tCwHfcThBVxfpqmupNGn7XP2H5/GL7Sean4pGanyyWA= |
| 19:30.40 | mumpitzel | orfix: I don't see any error there. so what is the actual error? |
| 19:30.50 | antihero | Hey, does anyone have any pre-made handy MOTDs like the amazon AMI one for ubuntu? |
| 19:30.53 | mumpitzel | orfix: and having jessie and wheezy in the same sources.list is a recipe for disaster |
| 19:30.59 | Khani | mumpitzel, well, the problem I have gotten in most distros I have tried is that the processor lacks pae support |
| 19:31.07 | Khani | its a amd k6-2 btw |
| 19:31.16 | Khani | 400mhz |
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| 19:31.48 | jelly-home | lysobit: seems you can't even reach the gw which is supposed to be on the same network segment as your eth0 |
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| 19:32.05 | jelly-home | lysobit: contact the network admin? |
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| 19:32.09 | mumpitzel | Khani: that doesn't matter. if there is no RAM > 4GB then PAE is not used. your problem is that you probably used 686 compiled software which wants stuff like SSE, cmpxchgb or such. PAE doesn't ever matter. |
| 19:32.48 | Khani | aha |
| 19:32.51 | Khani | thanks again |
| 19:32.58 | lysobit | I suppose I could be given the incorrect IPv6 config details |
| 19:33.09 | jaami | mumpitzel, there are 9 files. i gett all? |
| 19:33.18 | mumpitzel | jaami: the .iso file only |
| 19:33.27 | jaami | okay, thanks |
| 19:33.31 | jelly-home | Khani: however, debian still compiles binaries to work on 486 and above, so most apps ought to work |
| 19:33.35 | somiaj | jumperswitch: yes there is, 'apt-get install locales && dpkg-reconfigure locales' |
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| 19:34.53 | orfix | mumpitzel: well I added jessie in order to install the latest iceweasel-vimperator package then commented the line in sources.list |
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| 19:34.55 | Dagger2 | lysobit: I can't ping that gateway (2a02:a80:0:3081::1), for what it's worth |
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| 19:35.21 | davividal | hi. I'm using LDAP on my network, among other things, it manages my sudoers files. On my (personal) workstation I want to use LDAP and files for sudoers. That's what I've put on my /etc/nsswitch.conf: sudoers: ldap files , and here is my /etc/sudoers.d/redmine_gitolite: redmine ALL=(git) NOPASSWD:ALL |
| 19:35.25 | davividal | but whenever I try to sudo -u git -i ls it keeps asking my password. How can I debug what's going on? |
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| 19:36.00 | orfix | mumpitzel: the error is that "aptitude upgrade" doesn't end... it keeps running for a long time and the dependency conflict counter keeps increasing... |
| 19:36.16 | somiaj | jumperswitch: it is suggested you install the standard task, but this isn't always required. |
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| 19:36.22 | jelly-home | davividal: wow, when did nsswitch.conf start managing sudoers? |
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| 19:36.29 | mumpitzel | orfix: then pastebin this aptitude command output |
| 19:36.40 | davividal | jelly-home: when I started to use LDAP? :P |
| 19:36.43 | somiaj | jumperswitch: /msg dpkg standard |
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| 19:37.41 | jelly-home | davividal: how does one convince libc6 resolver to care about that (do you have a reference on what to read) |
| 19:37.44 | davividal | jelly-home: or are you asking about when nsswitch added support for sudoers? I dunno :( |
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| 19:37.54 | orfix | mumpitzel: after I run "aptitude upgrade" -> open: 47618; closed: 74291; defer: 1040; conflict: 1034 |
| 19:37.54 | jelly-home | yes |
| 19:38.18 | orfix | I suspended the command because it takes too long... |
| 19:38.52 | mumpitzel | orfix: please pastebin the actual output |
| 19:39.06 | mumpitzel | orfix: do you have apt-listbugs installed? |
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| 19:40.20 | orfix | mumpitzel: http://paste.debian.net/59287/ |
| 19:40.26 | davividal | jelly-home: http://www.sudo.ws/sudoers.ldap.man.html , "Configuring nsswitch.conf" section |
| 19:40.54 | jelly-home | thanks! |
| 19:41.01 | litvo | Hi Somiaj |
| 19:41.08 | somiaj | litvo: hello |
| 19:41.13 | orfix | mumpitzel: no I dont "No candidate version found for apt-listbugs |
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| 19:41.30 | mumpitzel | orfix: use apt-get |
| 19:41.51 | litvo | somiaj:Ever used chromium on Debian? |
| 19:42.36 | somiaj | litvo: just ask your question to the channel. Yes I use the chromium package from debian as my default browser. |
| 19:42.57 | orfix | mumpitzel: using apt-get I get this http://paste.debian.net/59288/ |
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| 19:43.33 | mumpitzel | orfix: so? /msg dpkg kept back |
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| 19:44.23 | litvo | I have some CRX files in my /tmp.Is this normal? |
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| 19:45.50 | mumpitzel | k-line evasion is not a good idea |
| 19:46.11 | somiaj | litvo: I have one there, no clue what a crx file is though. (: |
| 19:46.34 | mumpitzel | somiaj: cert revocation |
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| 19:46.45 | orfix | mumpitzel: so I should run "aptitude install -s " for all "kept back" packages, right ? |
| 19:47.03 | litvo | mumpitzel: what is your problem man?you keep being rude .all i did is ask a damn question |
| 19:47.06 | Khani | mumpitzel, I found the issue. A lot of websites had listed the processor as i586 for some odd reason |
| 19:47.16 | Khani | though its i686 |
| 19:47.34 | mumpitzel | Khani: I don't think it is |
| 19:47.40 | Khani | hm |
| 19:47.46 | somiaj | mumpitzel: ahh, yea I just have a /tmp/CRX_foo/ directory |
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| 19:49.04 | mumpitzel | Khani: k6-2 lacks some few instructions commonly assumed to be 686 only. it is _almost_ a 686 basically |
| 19:49.15 | Khani | yea, I just read some more |
| 19:49.32 | Khani | its odd, some say its 586, others 686 |
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| 19:50.02 | mumpitzel | cause it has more commands than a P5 (586) but less than a pentium pro (686) |
| 19:50.08 | mumpitzel | it's in the middle |
| 19:50.21 | Khani | hm, never thought that |
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| 19:50.26 | patriku | Hi, has anybody experienced problem while switching between igp and discrete vga that if i switch to discrete it completely turn off the power to display ? It used to work just fine year or so ago when i tried that last time. There are no errors or anything indicating any problems so far (dmesg or output while switching between each other) Thank you very much. |
| 19:50.30 | mumpitzel | so stuff that was compiled for a 686 will crash since it lacks a few |
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| 19:50.39 | Khani | its kinda way before what I know of processors |
| 19:51.02 | Khani | so I kinda need to read up on a lot of this |
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| 19:51.10 | mumpitzel | patriku: depends a lot on your actual hardware I'd say |
| 19:51.26 | mumpitzel | Khani: debian will work with any 486 CPU and above |
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| 19:51.42 | patriku | mumpitzel: I do understand. It is the same hw as it was about year ago and it worked. |
| 19:51.46 | Khani | thanks |
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| 19:52.08 | somiaj | just make sure you use the correct kernel and don't install any -686 compiled binaries. I belive libc6 has a version like that and maybe a few other core libs |
| 19:52.11 | mumpitzel | patriku: how do you switch? |
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| 19:53.06 | patriku | mumpitzel: I just dont know where to go without any error message. I just use echo DIS >/sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch, so using switcheroo. |
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| 19:54.09 | patriku | mumpitzel: i am going to switch it now so i can paste a log to see if you or anybode else would notice something. |
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| 19:57.20 | orfix | mumpitzel: well I think that adding jessie in my sources.list was a very bad idea... now if I want to to move to jessie, should I just replace wheezy with testing in my sources.list ? |
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| 19:58.28 | orfix | then use sudo aptitude full-upgrade ? |
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| 19:59.28 | somiaj | orfix: you should put 'jessie' instead of 'testing' but yes, that will move you to jessie and you will get to experience any upgrade bugs and other bugs assoicated with it |
| 19:59.58 | somiaj | though standard response is if you have to ask how to upgrade to jessie, you probabaly shouldn't (: |
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| 20:01.06 | orfix | somiaj: jessie==testing so I should replace wheezy by testing in order to always use testing |
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| 20:01.55 | mumpitzel | orfix: replace wheezy with jessie. not testing. but a simply dist-upgrade should solve all your imaginary problems |
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| 20:02.46 | somiaj | orfix: I ment what I said, use 'jessie' instead of 'testing'. This may not seem to matter, but right after the release it could be very important |
| 20:03.25 | somiaj | the first 48 hours after a relase the floodgates for testing are left open and in that time there could be tons of bugs. It is best to stablize with jessie then at a time of your choosing upgrade to the new testing if you so desire. |
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| 20:04.00 | orfix | somiaj: I get your idea, thank you. |
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| 20:05.38 | mumpitzel | orfix: before you switch to jessie, have you done a dist-upgrade yet? |
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| 20:17.20 | antihero | I can't get update-motd.d working |
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| 20:19.32 | somiaj | antihero: care to give us more info, maybe use paste.debian.net -- what isn't working, what errors do you get, what do you expect to happen? |
| 20:19.49 | antihero | ah, for some reason, etc motd was not symlinked to /var/run/motd |
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| 20:21.15 | antihero | any idea why that might not be the case? |
| 20:21.50 | somiaj | what package is that script from? I do know there is some new policy about that semilink, but I can't seem to find/recall it |
| 20:21.57 | Khani | mumpitzel, thanks again, I got the old box to run debian now |
| 20:22.02 | Khani | mumpitzel++ |
| 20:22.24 | somiaj | it isn't a link on my system either, wonder if the installer dones't put the link there |
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| 20:24.20 | patriku | mumpitzel: I am back. Here are the logs about what i did and what happened in logs whether you notice there anything intersting. Thanks. http://cwillu.com:8080/217.41.231.159#6 |
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| 20:27.33 | somiaj | antihero: are you running debian or ubuntu? |
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| 20:28.58 | drybjed | this might help: https://wiki.debian.org/motd |
| 20:29.08 | jumperswitch | How can I let debootstrap install an additional package (apt at leas to be able to install other packes)? |
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| 20:33.30 | somiaj | antihero: "Currently /etc/motd is user editable and static in Wheezy - The file will not be overwritten by reboot." -- which I am glad they got rid of that silly link by default, seems it is optional to add it |
| 20:33.58 | somiaj | jumperswitch: are you wanting to setup a debootstrap that also installs some additional software in the chroot by default (instead of having to manually do it)? |
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| 20:35.53 | somiaj | jumperswitch: it seems that there are --include=package1,package2,package3 (and an --exclude=) option in debootstrap, but debootstrap will not be the best at resolving dependencies, so use them with caution. You may also want to use some more automated package manager (thinking puppet or something like that) |
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| 20:36.35 | jumperswitch | somiaj: but for basic debian system bootstrapping debootstrap is fine, right? So after it is done I use a software configuration tool like puppet, ansible, whatever to finish the installation, right? |
| 20:38.42 | somiaj | jumperswitch: first I don't have much experience here, so this is only my understanding from limited experience. But yes I would suggest you let debootstrap install the base system, then install all remaning software from inside the chroot using apt/aptitude. I think this can be automated a bit more for many instances via a configuration tool like puppet. |
| 20:38.54 | jumperswitch | somiaj: ok, thank you |
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| 20:39.15 | jumperswitch | somiaj: I first used multistrap but then I read about it that it is intended for embedded devices, not for chroot targets |
| 20:39.23 | somiaj | the man page dose say you can download / extract additional package with debootstrap, but debootstrap doesn't contain the logic/ability of apt/aptitude and I think it wouldn't be as useful as thinking of it as two seperate steps |
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| 20:39.58 | jumperswitch | somiaj: right |
| 20:40.18 | jumperswitch | somiaj: so debootstrap is for making the base system and puppet and friends is for provisioning them |
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| 20:41.55 | somiaj | afaik, though I belive you can automate the creationg of the chroot from within puppet itself, there are others here with experience with such things so if they chime in listen to them. (: |
| 20:42.36 | jumperswitch | somiaj: but puppet has to use a tool like debootstrap, too, right? |
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| 20:45.00 | drybjed | jumperswitch: maybe you should check out multistrap? you can give it a list of packages and it will resolve the dependencies using local apt and install them in a chroot |
| 20:45.06 | jubo2 | where do I go to download Debian7 with KDE ? |
| 20:45.13 | jubo2 | is confusing |
| 20:45.38 | somiaj | jubo2: if you use the netinstaller just make sure when you run taskel you select additional desktop env, kde should be an option there |
| 20:45.59 | somiaj | jubo2: that would be my suggestion. I am unsure on the condition/existance of a cd1 with kde on it |
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| 20:46.44 | drybjed | jubo2: just install any Debian (with graphical environment or not), and you can install kde using package manager |
| 20:47.08 | jumperswitch | drybjed: yes, I already used it. The point of it that it does not install the locales and they write on the multistrap documentation that it is intended for embedded devices, _not_ for chroot. |
| 20:47.17 | jumperswitch | drybjed: maybe I am wrong here, but they write it is for embedded |
| 20:47.42 | jubo2 | drybjed: I'm having trouble .. eth0 seems to be dead and I can't find the wlan connection |
| 20:48.04 | drybjed | jumperswitch: well, yeah, but you can use it all the same. I'm using it to create lxc containers, with locales |
| 20:48.05 | somiaj | I think it is the debootstrap not installing the locales there jumperswitch -- you can install them (i think the idea is there is no installer to ask which ones you want at the start) |
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| 20:48.24 | somiaj | just install the locales package sepertally (then tell it to create the locales you need) |
| 20:48.26 | jumperswitch | drybjed: oh, this I want, too |
| 20:48.34 | jumperswitch | drybjed: how do you install the locales after multistrap finished? |
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| 20:48.57 | jumperswitch | somiaj: but how to tell to create the locales I need? |
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| 20:49.23 | mumpitzel | jumperswitch: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 20:49.35 | jumperswitch | mumpitzel: that's all? no recompilation / wicked things |
| 20:49.38 | somiaj | jumperswitch: I never had to automate it, so I just run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and it gives me an ncurses enviorment. This means you cna use debconf to do it. (: |
| 20:49.39 | drybjed | jumperswitch: https://github.com/drybjed/ansible-aiua/blob/master/playbooks/roles/lxc/templates/usr/share/lxc/templates/lxc-aiua.j2#L102-L109 |
| 20:49.45 | jumperswitch | mumpitzel: but I have to tell it that I want to use locale en_us-utf8 |
| 20:50.06 | somiaj | jumperswitch: that command gives you a set of question. question 1) select the locales to generate, question 2) select the default locale |
| 20:50.27 | somiaj | it can probabaly be automated with debconf, I just never had to |
| 20:50.50 | drybjed | I'm generating locales after chroot is created, in a lxc container generation script |
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| 20:51.32 | mumpitzel | you can always edit /etc/locale.gen directly and run locale-gen then edit /etc/default/locale if you really want to do it all the hard way |
| 20:52.21 | jumperswitch | drybjed: right, in that script there is one part for the locales |
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| 20:52.38 | drybjed | jumperswitch: yes, I highlighted that for you :) |
| 20:53.42 | somiaj | jumperswitch: one thing I read on google which I would suggest, you should createa local mirror if you haven't so you don't have to download all the packages for each container, and just get the locally. |
| 20:54.02 | jumperswitch | somiaj: yes, I use squid for caching the debian packages |
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| 20:54.37 | jumperswitch | drybjed: does the script use debootstrap for the basic system? |
| 20:54.46 | drybjed | no, multistrap |
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| 20:55.00 | drybjed | config is here: https://github.com/drybjed/ansible-aiua/blob/master/playbooks/roles/lxc/templates/etc/multistrap.d/stable.conf.j2 |
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| 20:55.18 | somiaj | there are tools to do that too, like apt-mirror and apt-cacher and others to do that too. |
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| 20:56.06 | jumperswitch | drybjed: ok, so this is a kind of ansible module, right? |
| 20:56.18 | drybjed | jumperswitch: yes |
| 20:56.26 | jumperswitch | drybjed: and those templates are directly used as they are ,right? |
| 20:56.34 | jumperswitch | drybjed: they are file contents to be inserted |
| 20:56.35 | drybjed | jumperswitch: ansible doesn't create lxc containers, it just sets the environment for LXC on a host |
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| 20:57.09 | jumperswitch | drybjed: why is there only section Debian in the multistrap config? |
| 20:57.13 | drybjed | jumperswitch: they are templates, ansible uses some jinja2 magic to fill in the variables marked by {{ ... }} |
| 20:57.22 | jumperswitch | drybjed: I have to add Update and Wheezy, too |
| 20:57.32 | drybjed | jumperswitch: because I'm interested in creating Debian Stable containers right now |
| 20:57.42 | drybjed | jumperswitch: ah, that |
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| 20:58.10 | drybjed | jumperswitch: after a container is created, I apply my ansible playbook on it, and it gets configured for security and updtes |
| 20:58.29 | drybjed | I just wanted to keep everything in one place - ansible playbook in this case |
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| 20:58.45 | drybjed | that's why containers are created as bare as possible to still function correctly |
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| 20:59.46 | drybjed | current LXC setup isn't foolproof, sometimes a container doesn't get an IP address from dhcp, don't know why yet |
| 20:59.58 | drybjed | but it works ok as a test environment |
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| 21:00.37 | boudiccas | how do i in a mysql database drop a load of rows starting 'wp_' please? |
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| 21:01.08 | mumpitzel | boudiccas: wrong channel |
| 21:01.21 | boudiccas | i'd like to do it all in one go rather than doing it one-by-one |
| 21:01.32 | jumperswitch | drybjed: ok, so 1) you use multistrap to install the base system then 2) you use ansible including some jinja text engine for filling in some variables for finishing that base system, right? |
| 21:01.40 | boudiccas | hmm |
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| 21:03.01 | drybjed | jumperswitch: not exactly. first, ansible uses 'lxc' role to prepare a machine (vm, hard, etc.) to host LXC containers. Then I run a command that creates a container using multistrap and my script, after that that container is booted, and I run ansible on that container to finish configuration |
| 21:03.40 | drybjed | templates in lxc role are used on the lxc hosting system, not the containers themselves |
| 21:03.49 | drybjed | it's a little backwards, but it makes sense :) |
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| 21:04.10 | drybjed | ansible-aiua, that playbook you're reading, is simply self-contained at this point |
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| 21:05.33 | drybjed | using that playbook you can configure bare metal which will host kvm machines which will host lxc containers, all in one |
| 21:06.16 | jumperswitch | drybjed: ok, so first there is a kvm host which hosts a vm which in turn hosts lxc containers, right? |
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| 21:06.32 | drybjed | jumperswitch: yes, you might configure it that way |
| 21:07.10 | drybjed | (I have already used it that way on a laptop and a dell server) |
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| 21:08.48 | jumperswitch | drybjed: this is a good configuration, something similar I am trying to achieve, too. Thank you for the scripts. |
| 21:09.02 | drybjed | jumperswitch: no problem, and have fun :-) |
| 21:09.07 | drybjed | jumperswitch: check out ansible too |
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| 21:10.11 | jumperswitch | drybjed: I currently use puppet, but I will definitely try ansible, too. |
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| 21:29.29 | test___ | . |
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| 21:29.44 | Lancien | bonsoir tout le monde |
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| 21:40.21 | jaami | i lost link for download debian for my dell 64bit laptop. plz provide the link again. i am using live cd of fedora sometime cd stop working. i will save link this time. |
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| 21:42.35 | jaami | the size of the iso was around 250mb , i did try to search the fil;es on debian site but i could not find same link. |
| 21:42.38 | Kobra | wtf, Debian has no input at all, recovery mode has input tho, stable, any ideas? |
| 21:42.51 | Kobra | tried old kernel version too |
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| 21:43.56 | Kobra | caps lock becomes in responsive right after GRUB |
| 21:44.08 | Kobra | unresponsive* |
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| 21:44.52 | Kobra | help? |
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| 21:45.03 | jaami | ,amy problems with miont too and i was not able to install ubuntu , fedora is not good either |
| 21:45.22 | jaami | many** mint** |
| 21:46.06 | Kobra | añy one even here ? |
| 21:46.29 | jaami | depends upon isp i guess |
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| 21:47.53 | peterrooney | jaami: debian.org -> Getting Debian: CD ISO images -> Download CD/DVD images using HTTP or FTP -> fficial CD/DVD images of the "stable" release -> amd64 -> debian-7.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 21:48.11 | Kobra | wtf can even cause Debian to lose input |
| 21:48.23 | Kobra | like, even the power button is unresponsive |
| 21:48.23 | jaami | thanks again peterrooney . |
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| 21:48.25 | peterrooney | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 21:48.36 | jaami | oh good :) |
| 21:49.09 | peterrooney | The output of "dpkg -l | more" differs from the output of "COLUMNS=$COLUMNS dpkg -l | more" - why does it ignore an environment variable that's there but not explicitly mentioned? |
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| 21:49.43 | peterrooney | thinks the shell is playing at sillybuggers |
| 21:49.47 | Kobra | no one can help me? |
| 21:50.25 | mtn | Kobra: your power button on the computer doesn't work? is that right? |
| 21:50.53 | Kobra | no |
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| 21:50.57 | Kobra | no input works |
| 21:50.59 | Kobra | at all |
| 21:51.06 | Kobra | it was working fine |
| 21:51.11 | Kobra | shut down |
| 21:51.11 | mumpitzel | jaami: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 21:51.17 | mtn | Kobra: debian has nothing to do with that. that is a hardware problem. |
| 21:51.33 | mumpitzel | jaami: with the link peterrooney gave you, the wlan won't work at installation time |
| 21:51.40 | jaami | oh yes, i was looking for you mumixam |
| 21:51.42 | Kobra | turn back on |
| 21:51.42 | Kobra | and no more input |
| 21:51.44 | Kobra | mtn, you're wrong |
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| 21:51.52 | jaami | oh yes, i was looking for you mumpitzel |
| 21:51.54 | mtn | Kobra: ok, have a nice day |
| 21:51.57 | Kobra | grub works fine |
| 21:52.07 | Kobra | recovery shell at moment |
| 21:52.38 | Kobra | it's a laptop, not a PC |
| 21:52.42 | Kobra | no way something got unplugged |
| 21:52.49 | mumpitzel | mtn: power button not working is a ACPI problem. not a hardware one |
| 21:52.50 | jaami | mumixam, canceld downloading already, gona download from your link |
| 21:53.06 | Kobra | mumixam: it's all input |
| 21:53.34 | mtn | mumpitzel: if you say so, it has always been a hardware device on any compter I have used. |
| 21:53.35 | Kobra | touch pad, and keyboard |
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| 21:53.58 | Kobra | it was working fine, and now it's not |
| 21:54.01 | Kobra | no updates were applied |
| 21:54.13 | mumpitzel | mtn: then you never have used a ATX case |
| 21:54.39 | Kobra | so, anyone have any help? |
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| 21:55.04 | mumpitzel | Kobra: but the installer worked fine? that's the same kernel. what about recovery mode? or init=/bin/sh? |
| 21:55.18 | Kobra | I'm in recovery mode |
| 21:55.25 | Kobra | I can type |
| 21:55.36 | Kobra | but not if I not none recovery |
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| 21:56.25 | Kobra | what can I possibly do? |
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| 21:57.39 | Kobra | ..? |
| 21:59.30 | Kobra | sigh |
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| 22:00.07 | Kobra | Debian stable my arse |
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| 22:00.41 | Kobra | and no one even wants to help |
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| 22:02.02 | Kobra | uhhhm, so, can anyone help? |
| 22:02.10 | Nik05 | no |
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| 22:02.33 | jaami | Kobaz, i asked same question 3 times and got same answer 3 times. this sure good |
| 22:02.35 | Kobra | not even slightest clue of something to try? |
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| 22:02.52 | jaami | Kobra, i asked same question 3 times and got same answer 3 times. this sure good |
| 22:03.07 | Kobra | jaami: what did you ask me? |
| 22:03.29 | jaami | not yoy , i asked from mumpitzel |
| 22:03.41 | jaami | not from you Kobra |
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| 22:04.05 | Kobra | I'm confused |
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| 22:04.47 | Kobra | I said I'm in recovery mode, but I don't know what to do here |
| 22:05.00 | Rydekull | Why are you in recovery mode? |
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| 22:05.41 | Kobra | Rydekull: http://imgur.com/dj6squW |
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| 22:06.20 | Rydekull | that tells me very little |
| 22:06.49 | jhutchins | For PXE, if the DHCP server is not the DHCP server what do I need to do? |
| 22:06.57 | Kobra | yes, I don't know much else |
| 22:07.12 | Kobra | reboot and all forms of input broke |
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| 22:07.19 | Rydekull | jhutchins: if the dhcp server is not the dhcp server? I think you're posing that question wrong |
| 22:07.41 | Kobra | literally nothing was done between then |
| 22:07.50 | Rydekull | jhutchins: Configure the dhcp-server (whichever server that actually is the dhcp-server) with the next-server and filename to search for |
| 22:08.08 | Rydekull | Kobra: why did you reboot? |
| 22:08.33 | Kobra | my mom booted it up, went on chrome, then shut it down, then realised she wasn't finished |
| 22:08.36 | Kobra | booted back up, no input |
| 22:08.52 | Rydekull | Kobra: 'it', is it a laptop or a desktop? |
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| 22:09.00 | Kobra | I was sat next to her whole time, she literally touched nothing else |
| 22:09.05 | Kobra | laptop |
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| 22:09.41 | Kobra | grub and recovery mode has input fine, but not when I launch the proper one |
| 22:09.45 | Rydekull | Kobra: so your keyboard is working in debian, and then stops working. What happends on the screen when you're booting? Nothing? Something? |
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| 22:10.03 | Kobra | just like normal |
| 22:10.05 | Kobra | can see notifications popping up |
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| 22:10.10 | Kobra | etc... |
| 22:10.21 | Rydekull | 'notifications'? |
| 22:10.39 | Kobra | yes, email notifications? |
| 22:10.43 | jhutchins | Rydekull: D'Oh! |
| 22:10.48 | Kobra | chat messages, etc |
| 22:11.06 | jhutchins | DHCP server is not PXE server. Problem is setting custom dhcp responses on a google router. |
| 22:11.08 | Rydekull | Kobra: ok, so you're saying the boot goes just fine and you get your desktop environment started |
| 22:11.18 | Kobra | yes |
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| 22:11.32 | Kobra | but it's like all input devices are unplugged |
| 22:11.35 | Rydekull | Kobra: but your keyboard wont work, nor mouse |
| 22:11.43 | Kobra | exactly |
| 22:11.47 | Rydekull | Kobra: do you have an additional, external, usb mouse or keyboard? |
| 22:12.03 | Kobra | nor the power button |
| 22:12.03 | Kobra | literally nothing works |
| 22:12.08 | Rydekull | jhutchins: yeah, well, next-server and filename is what you want to configure your dhcp-server with |
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| 22:13.22 | Kobra | Rydekull: trying an external kB |
| 22:14.01 | Kobra | setting pleminary keymap |
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| 22:14.14 | Kobra | is where caps lock stops responding |
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| 22:15.29 | Kobra | okay, what the ducking shit |
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| 22:15.43 | Kobra | I just rebooted again, and it works |
| 22:15.49 | Kobra | .......wtfff.......? |
| 22:15.50 | Rydekull | congratulations |
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| 22:16.01 | Kobra | it's not good |
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| 22:16.10 | Kobra | what I'd it happens again |
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| 22:16.19 | Rydekull | Do you have your external keyboard connected now, when you booted? |
| 22:16.29 | Kobra | no |
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| 22:19.34 | Kobra | Rydekull: tried again |
| 22:19.40 | Kobra | none work |
| 22:19.55 | Kobra | with or without ext kB |
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| 22:20.34 | jhutchins | Ok, so the DHCP server doesn't seem to be in the rcconf. This is a lenny system. What's starting it? |
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| 22:24.43 | somiaj | jhutchins: it isn't linked via some /etc/init.d/dhcpd script? That seems odd. |
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| 22:25.53 | kaen | any gnome rss applet recommendations? |
| 22:25.59 | somiaj | http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/amd64/isc-dhcp-server/filelist -- if that is the server you are using it appears to have the init script, /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server |
| 22:26.07 | kaen | yarssr appears broken beyond hope. |
| 22:26.42 | DANtheBEASTman | how can I find the list of packages that build-dep uses. all build-dep is saying right now is it can't satisfy version requirements |
| 22:26.51 | somiaj | kaen: I would personally ask in #gnome, though those here who use gnome night have a suggestion. Once you get the name of good applets you can then check if they are included in debian |
| 22:27.03 | kaen | alright, will do |
| 22:27.04 | DANtheBEASTman | I asked dpkg `build-dep list` but he's not that smart |
| 22:27.37 | somiaj | DANtheBEASTman: try apt-cache show 'package name' -- do you see a list of build-deps? |
| 22:28.12 | DANtheBEASTman | somiaj: no, the package is in testing and I only have deb-src for testing |
| 22:28.15 | somiaj | DANtheBEASTman: wat it is apt-cache showsrc source_package_name |
| 22:28.28 | DANtheBEASTman | ahha there we go, thanks |
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| 22:29.09 | somiaj | DANtheBEASTman: yea this is the joy of backporting, also backporting any missing build-debs (: |
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| 22:29.25 | DANtheBEASTman | >joy |
| 22:29.26 | DANtheBEASTman | you keep using that word |
| 22:29.53 | somiaj | packages that are not in wheezy backports are either not there because of this (it is a pain to backport it) or lack of popularity or someone to make the backport. |
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| 22:30.13 | somiaj | the ssb factoidis more for the later case, not the one it seems you have found. (: |
| 22:30.29 | somiaj | runs off again |
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| 22:30.51 | DANtheBEASTman | I'm trying to build mpv. there are build-scripts from the mpv debs but I'm still having trouble with it |
| 22:30.58 | DANtheBEASTman | *mpv devs |
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| 22:40.38 | ws2k3 | hello |
| 22:40.58 | ws2k3 | i just upgraded to debian 7.2 and now my server is in trouble php seems very slow suddenly |
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| 22:41.21 | kaen | is there a compositor other than compiz available in stable? |
| 22:41.40 | kaen | specifically a lightweight one that will work with cairo? |
| 22:43.00 | Quare | Maybe xcompmgr. |
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| 22:50.00 | ws2k3 | hello |
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| 22:50.14 | ws2k3 | i just upgrade to debian 7.2 and now my server is kinda failing |
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| 22:50.43 | ws2k3 | i used ngnix+fpm but when that got stuck i switched back to apache2 but it looks like system is failing with apache2 to |
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| 23:08.10 | ahuemer | hi all. how can i list the defined functions in dash? |
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| 23:24.26 | jaami | mumpitzel, download completed firmware-7.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso , please gude further |
| 23:24.36 | jaami | guide** |
| 23:24.44 | lucide | hum |
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| 23:27.46 | jaami | my net is too slow @20-30kb/s |
| 23:28.58 | lucide | do yo have access to a browser |
| 23:29.50 | jaami | asking me lucide ? |
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| 23:31.36 | jaami | is there anyone who can help me to install debian at this time? |
| 23:32.11 | lucide | yes jaami |
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| 23:32.21 | jaami | oh ok, thanks |
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| 23:34.50 | jaami | what to download next?. |
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| 23:43.50 | lucide | do yo have acces to a browser ? jaami |
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| 23:48.11 | jaami | lucide, yes i have ffox |
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| 23:50.25 | lucide | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_and_use_Live_USB |
| 23:50.40 | jaami | okay |
| 23:50.53 | lucide | use this command : su -c "dd if=/Users/me/Downloads/Fedora-17-x86_64-DVD.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=8M" |
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| 23:51.29 | lucide | replace Fedora-17*** by Debian.iso |
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| 23:52.11 | lucide | and replace /dev/sdX |
| 23:52.34 | dvs | checks the name of the channel |
| 23:54.12 | sharky_ | dvs, :D we are open minded |
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| 23:55.15 | dvs | traitors! :-P |
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| 23:55.43 | sharky_ | never |
| 23:56.40 | lucide | dvs: he use a fedora live cd to install debian |
| 23:56.46 | lucide | ahaha |
| 23:57.23 | D|nA | lucide, it's not funny, he wants to upgrade his OS.. |
| 23:57.38 | sharky_ | lucide, there are also debian live cds |
| 23:57.39 | somiaj | ws2k3: do you use any unoffical sources? Did you restart apache2 or your computer after the upgrade. Have you checked for any apache 2 errors |
| 23:58.36 | lucide | sharky_: i know, but he use fedora |
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| 23:59.20 | dvs | lucide: Why not use a Debian live to install Debian? Novel idea! |