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| 00:00.19 | dont-panic | I don't have any problem with http, it is a webserver and its probably not at all secure |
| 00:00.36 | dont-panic | its mk802III android pc the size of 2 flash drives |
| 00:00.54 | gnarface | oh |
| 00:01.08 | gnarface | cpu could be the issue after all remotely too then |
| 00:01.22 | gnarface | sshd takes up more cpu the larger the width of the datastream |
| 00:01.29 | dont-panic | the cpu on that is 1.5ghz dual core |
| 00:01.31 | gnarface | (on both ends of the connection) |
| 00:01.42 | dont-panic | with a gig of ram |
| 00:01.54 | gnarface | i'd think it would be enough for flash... |
| 00:01.57 | gnarface | er, flac |
| 00:02.08 | gnarface | dvd content maybe not though |
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| 00:02.20 | dont-panic | I don't even need to use flac, that was just all I had on this lappy lol |
| 00:02.56 | dont-panic | one of these days I wanna see if I can get my ps3 controller working with this laptop |
| 00:03.19 | gnarface | the reason i'm suggesting sshfs though next, is that it should still be secure, and your local filesystem should be smart enough to cache the whole file before playing. mplayer isn't very smart at all |
| 00:03.47 | dont-panic | I might give up on the music over a server idea until I have a better reason for it. I can scp anything I want from home to my work comp and delete it later |
| 00:04.16 | gnarface | and you can carry gigabytes of music on a usb keychain |
| 00:04.22 | gnarface | or on your cellphone |
| 00:05.10 | dont-panic | yeah, im being silly. I have 70g's of music on my external I bring with me |
| 00:05.25 | gnarface | i think you're giving up too early |
| 00:05.43 | gnarface | what you're trying to do should still be possible but you're just working within fairly tight bandwidth or cpu tolerances |
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| 00:06.14 | dont-panic | yeah, I just installed debian on here and awesome wm so I'm just muckin about thinking of fun things I can do |
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| 00:06.25 | gnarface | but, yes, its arguably silly when flash storage is so cheap and bandwidth is so expensive |
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| 00:07.15 | gnarface | if your bottleneck is bandwidth, filesystem-level caching should fix the problem (although there would probably be a notable delay in playback start-up times) |
| 00:07.18 | dont-panic | meh, I'm paying for the bandwidth, might as well use it lol |
| 00:07.31 | dont-panic | I just remembered why i was trying to figure this out |
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| 00:07.42 | dont-panic | I'm in a tmux session on my server |
| 00:07.56 | jaami | apt-file is not installed on my debian. neither synaptic can search apt-file |
| 00:08.00 | gnarface | if your bottleneck is cpu power, you'll only really be able to combat it by ditching ssh in favor of something less secure (httpd or netcat) or making lower bitrate files |
| 00:08.05 | dont-panic | trying to find ways to not have to move between diff term's |
| 00:08.22 | dont-panic | yeah |
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| 00:09.12 | dont-panic | can rtorrent pull magnet links? |
| 00:09.15 | abrotman | jaami: so install it |
| 00:12.13 | nkuttler | dont-panic: enter + paste link + enter |
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| 00:12.39 | dont-panic | nkuttler do you know how to pull links from elinks? |
| 00:12.46 | dont-panic | nkuttler: or any cli browser |
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| 00:16.13 | johny-b-goode | hello folks. Trying to install debian on a mips machine (gdium). It has a USB stick that acts as a hard drive. has anyone tried this before? |
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| 00:17.19 | jaami | abrotman: apt-get install apt-file says unable to locate package apt-file |
| 00:17.33 | jeep | johny-b-goode: usb stick installs work well |
| 00:17.51 | jaami | abrotman: i assume that apt-get will download if find the package |
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| 00:21.16 | jeep | johny-b-goode: this is what your playing with ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gdium |
| 00:21.17 | jaami | jeep: how to install apt-file , getting error when run this command apt-get install apt-file |
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| 00:22.13 | jeep | jaami: apt-cache search apt-file does it list it ? |
| 00:22.36 | abrotman | jaami: pastebin your sources.list |
| 00:23.10 | jaami | jeep: nothing was returned. |
| 00:23.20 | jaami | abrotman: im getting it |
| 00:23.40 | mcurran | I'm busy symlinking tons and tons of .h files from /opt/wine/include/ to my apr directory within httpd, so I can build it from source. I don't know why the hell it needs windows files to compile, but regardless I don't want to give up now. Anyone know of a definition I could use to set instead of symlinking? I tried adding my working directory to path but that didn't help |
| 00:24.48 | jaami | abrotman: here it is http://paste.debian.net/60002/ |
| 00:25.26 | jeep | jaami: uncomment the last two lines |
| 00:25.38 | abrotman | not quite |
| 00:25.39 | jeep | jaami: remove the # at start of line |
| 00:25.44 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jaami about wheezy sources.list |
| 00:25.46 | abrotman | jeep: that won't help |
| 00:26.13 | jeep | oh nevermind your right he lists security twice lol |
| 00:26.35 | abrotman | jaami: see what the bot told you |
| 00:26.57 | jaami | abrotman: yes, im reading |
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| 00:30.17 | lucide | jaami: why you have twice deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main |
| 00:30.49 | abrotman | let him follow the bot |
| 00:30.53 | abrotman | he has hte answers he needs |
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| 00:37.21 | jaami | abrotman: Fetched 9,997 kB in 1min 42s (97.5 kB/s) Current status: 127 updates [+127], 33729 new [+33729]. but apt-file is still not located |
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| 00:37.44 | abrotman | jaami: paste your sources.list again |
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| 00:38.50 | jaami | abrotman: plz check here http://paste.debian.net/60004/ |
| 00:41.22 | jeep | jaami: run apt-get update now then apt-cache search apt-file |
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| 00:41.26 | abrotman | jaami: and you ran `apt-get update;apt-get install apt-file" ? |
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| 00:43.04 | jaami | abrotman: i ran aptitude update as bot gave in message |
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| 00:43.16 | jaami | "aptitude update" |
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| 00:43.28 | abrotman | and then? |
| 00:43.54 | jaami | then it downloaded some data and i pasted result |
| 00:44.15 | abrotman | and then? |
| 00:44.18 | NotJimCarrey | under pulseaudio, my built-in device just shows analog out, digital out, digital out + analog in, or analog in. there is no analog in + analog out |
| 00:44.25 | jaami | i can paste exactly whqt was downloaded |
| 00:44.29 | NotJimCarrey | any ideas on how to add it? |
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| 00:45.38 | NotJimCarrey | doh |
| 00:45.44 | NotJimCarrey | nevermind, spoke too soon |
| 00:45.45 | NotJimCarrey | lol |
| 00:45.55 | NotJimCarrey | didn't see duplex |
| 00:46.09 | jeep | jaami: run apt-get install apt-file .. it should work fine now |
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| 00:46.21 | jaami | http://paste.debian.net/60010/ |
| 00:46.33 | jaami | ok jeep |
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| 00:46.57 | jeep | jaami: and also run apt-get upgrade |
| 00:47.52 | jaami | jeep: ok, apt-get install is runing |
| 00:48.44 | jeep | jaami: apt-get update downloads the lists of packages .. apt-get upgrade installs the newer ones |
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| 00:50.29 | jaami | jeep: thanks for explaining. here is install out put if its important http://paste.debian.net/60013/ |
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| 00:52.55 | jeep | jaami: see how it lists the dependencies curl libcurl libapt ect.? so apt-file uses those other packages to work hence you install 7 packages instead of just one for apt-file |
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| 00:54.31 | dvs | looks for another USB drive |
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| 00:55.16 | jaami | jeep: i see those 7 gets are packages. also i executed "apt-file update" |
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| 00:55.47 | jaami | without asking you. is it ok? |
| 00:56.33 | jeep | i dont know what apt-file does i never used it |
| 00:56.47 | jaami | i mean the "apt-file update" command |
| 00:57.11 | jaami | jeep: it look for packages if file is given to it |
| 00:57.41 | jeep | ah i see that might be handy |
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| 00:58.37 | james41382 | Yeah so if you are for example trying to determine which package some file is a part of that is the program that'll do it. |
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| 01:01.08 | uvin | helo |
| 01:02.51 | uvin | so just after i changed debian.vdi into debian1.vdi, debian boots and acts very slowly now i have tryd defraged the HDD no fix any ideas |
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| 01:06.00 | uvin | hello help me |
| 01:06.39 | abrotman | help you what? |
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| 01:07.46 | zykotick9 | uvin: how odd, if #ubuntu you reported "20:48 < uvin> so just have i changed the ubuntu.vdi into ubuntu1.vdi in virtualbox" changed to debian that fast?!?! |
| 01:07.47 | johny-b-goode | guys, anybody work with pmon while installing debian? |
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| 01:07.59 | uvin | system boots slow and operate slow |
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| 01:08.13 | bazhang | uvin is this debian , ubuntu, or fedora you are using |
| 01:08.37 | uvin | lol |
| 01:08.44 | bazhang | which one |
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| 01:08.51 | uvin | you are spying in ubuntu |
| 01:09.01 | bazhang | I am there 24/7 |
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| 01:10.09 | dvs | hides for ChanServ |
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| 01:10.36 | veek | how do i check if a locale is installed and supported |
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| 01:10.55 | veek | perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: |
| 01:10.56 | veek | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:10.56 | jaami | abrotman: this page can be called an alternate way of apt-file? http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-iwlwifi |
| 01:11.08 | veek | are supported and installed on your system. |
| 01:11.39 | dvs | veek: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 01:12.24 | veek | thanks |
| 01:12.28 | abrotman | jaami: no |
| 01:12.37 | apt_get | Inclusion Guidelines Only "stable" software is included in the Debian core distribution. In Debian project parlance, the term stable means that the software is no longer under active development or widespread use and that the authors are long dead; if software is still under active development, it undergoes changes too rapidly for the Debian project to incorporate them. Due to pressure from users, obsolete versions of certain software that |
| 01:12.40 | veek | ugh! /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed |
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| 01:14.09 | veek | dvs, i'm getting an error /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed |
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| 01:15.07 | dvs | veek: So does "apt-get -f install" do anything? |
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| 01:16.17 | jaami | jeep: i need to go eat food. upgrade is in progress. i will be back in 30 minutes. |
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| 01:19.24 | veek | dvs works |
| 01:19.34 | dvs | !win veek |
| 01:19.34 | dpkg | Congratulations, veek! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 01:19.48 | veek | dvs The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: |
| 01:19.48 | veek | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:20.29 | veek | looks puzzles |
| 01:21.02 | LtL | veek: apt-get autoremove libopenvg1-mesa libslp1 |
| 01:22.03 | veek | urm.. LtL i have a problem with locales |
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| 01:22.10 | veek | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed |
| 01:22.28 | veek | oh well.. let me do that |
| 01:22.38 | LtL | veek: you jt said it worked |
| 01:22.42 | LtL | just |
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| 01:24.46 | veek | LtL, i'm sorry but i'm not following your line of reasoning.. how do i fix this: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: locales is broken or not fully installed |
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| 01:26.11 | LtL | veek: it's normally installed by default as far as i know, if not reinstall and configure |
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| 01:29.08 | ttelford | I recently upgraded packages in sid. There is something that was upgraded that it doesn't like, as a number of (needed) binaries now segfault. (such as sudo, resolvconf, bash, login) As my root fs was btrfs, I am able to roll back, and see what the delta was, but I'm not sure how to figure out which particular package is causing the problem(s). |
| 01:29.16 | ttelford | In general, I'm seeing a lot of the following in dmesg: |
| 01:29.41 | ttelford | ld-linux-x32.so [PID] - general protection ip: <address> in ld-2.17.so |
| 01:30.25 | ttelford | which gives me some place to look, but I was hoping strace would be helpful in pinpointing it more exactly. |
| 01:30.41 | themill | ttelford: x32 doesn't sound right |
| 01:31.31 | ttelford | well, it may not sound right, but it's what is in dmesg. |
| 01:31.45 | ttelford | which is odd, as I'm not running 32-bit programs (sudo, for example) |
| 01:32.13 | themill | ttelford: You've got the libc6-x32 package installed though and I'm pretty sure you don't want it |
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| 01:45.15 | ttelford | themill: any other suggestions? after removing them, the problem remains (and, for example, sudo still gives me a general protection error in ld-2.17.so |
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| 01:45.46 | themill | presumably implicating a different ld-linux though |
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| 01:46.27 | ttelford | even though it's listing ld-2.17.so? |
| 01:46.42 | ttelford | (not ld-linux.<version>.so?) |
| 01:47.02 | themill | so there's a "native" linker and the foreign ones |
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| 02:08.33 | ttelford | dmesg |
| 02:09.08 | veek | how should i remove all my unstable packages and rollback to stable? apt-show-versions |grep /unstable lists a bunch of pkgs |
| 02:09.17 | dvs | !downgrade |
| 02:09.18 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 02:10.36 | veek | i didn't do a upgrade... i tried installing wine-unstable |
| 02:11.38 | jeep | veek: did you add unstable to /etc/apt/sources.list and then install wine ? |
| 02:11.46 | veek | yup |
| 02:12.14 | veek | i did apt-get install wine-unstable -t unstable |
| 02:12.47 | dvs | veek: dpkg -l | grep libc6 |
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| 02:14.35 | veek | libc6:i386 2.17-93 |
| 02:14.48 | veek | etc |
| 02:14.59 | abrotman | welcome to unstable |
| 02:15.06 | veek | libc6-i686:i38 2.17-93 |
| 02:15.29 | dvs | abrotman: awwww! You took my line! |
| 02:15.48 | veek | hmm so i can't go back now.. |
| 02:15.55 | abrotman | you can reinstall |
| 02:15.56 | veek | crud buckets! |
| 02:15.57 | jeep | veek: reinstall |
| 02:16.00 | dvs | downgrade ^^^ |
| 02:16.04 | abrotman | or you can try to force the downgrade, may or may not work |
| 02:16.15 | jaami | abrotman: after upgrade is finished i ran command apt-file "search firmware/iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode" but nothing was returned |
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| 02:17.13 | veek | well can i now switch to unstable completly then |
| 02:17.28 | veek | after all that will eventually become stable |
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| 02:17.41 | dvs | veek: nope |
| 02:17.43 | veek | apt-get upgrade -t unstable? |
| 02:19.23 | ttelford | unstable remains unstable forever. My unstable system has been unstable for ~8 years now. |
| 02:19.34 | ttelford | it's just a rolling upgrade |
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| 02:20.05 | veek | okay so can i switch all my pkgs to unstable |
| 02:20.17 | veek | noo more wheezy so to speak |
| 02:20.28 | Th0masR0ss | reinstalls stable on ttelford's box |
| 02:20.29 | ttelford | Sure; easiest way I know of is to modify /etc/apt/sources.list (switch 'stable' to 'unstable') |
| 02:20.45 | dvs | veek: you can but you'll be the first to get bugs when then happen. |
| 02:20.46 | ttelford | Though you may want to try 'testing' first. Think of 'testing' as in between stable and unstable. |
| 02:20.58 | ttelford | +1 to dvs's mention. |
| 02:21.26 | Th0masR0ss | wait what you can go stable -> unstable? |
| 02:21.26 | dvs | testing will eventually become stable |
| 02:21.28 | veek | okay so i can only climb upwards.. stable testing unstable |
| 02:21.29 | ttelford | I did an apt-get upgrade, and for the first time in 13 years of using debian, the whole system is down... I can't even login as root to fix it. |
| 02:21.41 | Th0masR0ss | I thought you had to go from testing to unstable |
| 02:21.54 | dvs | Th0masR0ss: no, that's not true. |
| 02:21.56 | ttelford | Not to my knowledge; then again, I've never actually used testing. |
| 02:22.02 | Th0masR0ss | oh ok |
| 02:22.10 | Th0masR0ss | never used unstable |
| 02:22.29 | veek | i needed wine - i should have just compiled |
| 02:22.36 | veek | but it's so tempting |
| 02:22.52 | veek | i'm compiling now anyways |
| 02:22.55 | abrotman | Th0masR0ss: it's recommended to go through testing, but not always required |
| 02:23.02 | Th0masR0ss | ok |
| 02:23.35 | Th0masR0ss | but you can't do, say, squeeze -> jessie right? |
| 02:23.51 | dvs | Th0masR0ss: why not? jessie is testing now. |
| 02:24.08 | dvs | oh wait. I forgot wheezy is stable. |
| 02:24.12 | dvs | Th0masR0ss: you're right. |
| 02:24.27 | dvs | mumbles something about "stupid codenames" |
| 02:24.28 | Th0masR0ss | or lenny->wheezy, either? |
| 02:24.36 | abrotman | Th0masR0ss: no |
| 02:24.41 | dvs | Th0masR0ss: not recommended. |
| 02:24.47 | Th0masR0ss | ok |
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| 02:34.11 | terminal721 | Hi |
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| 02:35.35 | terminal721 | Does anyone know what kind of patches the debian kernel contains? |
| 02:35.44 | dvs | lots! |
| 02:36.12 | terminal721 | Is it mostly security patches or is it more than that? |
| 02:36.28 | dvs | terminal721: it's mostly security patches |
| 02:36.50 | abrotman | there's a huge changelog |
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| 02:37.54 | terminal721 | Also is there a reason the Debian kernel is the most patched kernel in the Linux world?Why do they patch so much? |
| 02:38.09 | abrotman | stability and security? |
| 02:38.21 | dvs | nah! SNS! |
| 02:38.32 | terminal721 | SNS?whats that |
| 02:38.44 | abrotman | looks at themill |
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| 02:39.15 | abrotman | waits for the greek troll to start trolling |
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| 02:39.25 | dvs | !tell terminal721 about sns |
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| 02:40.04 | terminal721 | Abrotman wth? |
| 02:42.35 | terminal721 | abrotman: If you have something to say , say it to me instead of pussying out and calling themill |
| 02:43.00 | abrotman | ahem .. |
| 02:43.15 | terminal721 | pardon my language mate |
| 02:43.25 | terminal721 | dont call me a troll though |
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| 02:43.57 | abrotman | waits |
| 02:44.26 | terminal721 | Keep waiting if it makes you happy |
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| 03:03.37 | terminal721 | The Universe runs on Debian, except for Earth, which runs in a virtual machine with Windows 3.1 BC. |
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| 03:04.53 | ctmjr | see's abrotman did not have to wait long |
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| 03:05.36 | nn0101 | abrotman: last time i saw you here was like 5 years ago. hi! |
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| 03:06.54 | nn0101 | gee time passes so quickly... our lives aging quicker than we think.. |
| 03:07.56 | nn0101 | anyway .... |
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| 03:13.13 | superlinux-hp | hi. i have a signature key problem with the backports of wheezy. would you please help? |
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| 03:35.46 | tripper | Question: How, in the net installer, do I go straight to installing from unstable? |
| 03:35.52 | tripper | or at least testing? |
| 03:36.06 | tripper | Is there a way to do it without ever installing a base from stable? |
| 03:36.18 | tripper | I'm currently at the choose mirror stage |
| 03:36.34 | superlinux-hp | tripper, whatever they'd tell you, never ever install from unstable |
| 03:37.09 | tripper | Am I just 100% destined for breakage or what? |
| 03:37.22 | superlinux-hp | sorta that |
| 03:37.23 | tripper | In that case, how do I install testing from the net install CD? |
| 03:37.34 | superlinux-hp | ok simple.. |
| 03:37.41 | superlinux-hp | install normally |
| 03:38.26 | superlinux-hp | then change your repository to testing in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 03:38.50 | superlinux-hp | so your repository line will be then.. |
| 03:39.35 | superlinux-hp | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 03:39.56 | superlinux-hp | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free <<this one, pardon me |
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| 03:40.34 | superlinux-hp | tripper, ok? |
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| 03:40.41 | superlinux-hp | understood? |
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| 03:43.29 | tripper | Sure. |
| 03:43.41 | superlinux-hp | great |
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| 03:43.52 | tripper | But doesn't that mean still installing stable base? |
| 03:44.02 | superlinux-hp | yes.. |
| 03:44.16 | superlinux-hp | but you'll be doing: |
| 03:44.27 | superlinux-hp | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 03:44.38 | superlinux-hp | and then use : |
| 03:44.44 | superlinux-hp | tasksel |
| 03:45.03 | superlinux-hp | to install whatever like desktop and rest |
| 03:45.04 | tripper | All right. It's just that when I do that, then upgrade to the latest packages, I get legacy settings sticking around and stuff |
| 03:45.10 | tripper | oh oh oh |
| 03:45.12 | tripper | I see |
| 03:45.14 | tripper | that should help |
| 03:45.20 | tripper | all right, will try |
| 03:45.29 | superlinux-hp | tripper, |
| 03:45.42 | tripper | superlinux-hp, |
| 03:46.04 | superlinux-hp | clear the sources.list from stable addresses |
| 03:46.23 | superlinux-hp | so you'll get a pure testing distro |
| 03:46.30 | tripper | well ofc, I comment out stable addresses as soon as I add testing |
| 03:46.39 | tripper | tasksel is new to me though |
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| 03:46.58 | tripper | that's great; it means I won't be getting like old xfce configs littering up corners of my environment |
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| 03:57.06 | tripper | Also, generally would it be quicker for me to use ftp.us.debian.org as a mirror or the university closest to me that has a mirror? |
| 03:57.29 | tripper | in terms of download speeds |
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| 05:37.51 | mo1991 | can someone recommend a gui frontent for iptables aka firewall gui? |
| 05:38.05 | mo1991 | firestarter seems to be missing from Jessie |
| 05:41.10 | superlinux-hp | mo1991, use webmin |
| 05:41.28 | superlinux-hp | you can do everything called system admin |
| 05:41.47 | superlinux-hp | web based |
| 05:42.03 | superlinux-hp | mo1991, ok? |
| 05:42.31 | superlinux-hp | it's not on the debian repositories. go to its site |
| 05:43.07 | mo1991 | at the moment I'm not looking to do webadmin, just looking for something similar to firestarter as a frontend for iptables as this is no longer in debain Jessie |
| 05:43.12 | mo1991 | Debian Jessie |
| 05:44.14 | peterrooney | !webmin |
| 05:44.15 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
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| 05:45.02 | mo1991 | ya not lookin for webmin always heard that was insecure package and bad habit |
| 05:45.15 | mo1991 | !firestarter |
| 05:45.16 | dpkg | Firestarter is a graphical configuration utility for <iptables> and a network traffic monitor. Removed from Debian post-Wheezy to resolve bug #709566. |
| 05:45.30 | mo1991 | anyone have an alternative? |
| 05:45.49 | mo1991 | suggestion? |
| 05:46.45 | superlinux-hp | mo1991, use it then shut down the service of webmin, that's a good solution |
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| 05:47.56 | mo1991 | surely there must be a better alternative that webmin? Webmin isn't even in the repositories |
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| 05:51.03 | mo1991 | although looking further may be there isn't - seems shorewall is the next closest thing but if I reacall that was a bit more difficult to set up |
| 05:51.08 | mo1991 | not as simple |
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| 05:53.58 | mo1991 | !gufw |
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| 06:05.44 | cooldharma06 | hi |
| 06:06.16 | jeep | hi |
| 06:06.32 | cooldharma06 | hi all.. i need some suggestion..alternative tool for camstudio.. |
| 06:06.54 | cooldharma06 | i tried istanbul its not working fine |
| 06:07.06 | jaami | this command return nothing "apt-file find iwlwifi-3945-2.ucode" but dmesg shows the missing firmware |
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| 06:08.24 | iarinov | cooldharma06, there is audio-videio producction distro |
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| 06:09.49 | cooldharma06 | ? |
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| 06:10.30 | jaami | please tell me how to get misssing firmware |
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| 06:11.12 | iarinov | jaami, download it from developer's site |
| 06:11.17 | iarinov | in source codes |
| 06:11.51 | tiron | cd #xbmc |
| 06:11.53 | tiron | lol |
| 06:11.53 | jaami | iarinov: developers's site? plz give me link. i dont know the site address |
| 06:12.23 | iarinov | jaami, whats device? |
| 06:12.44 | tiron | actually, maybe I should ask here. Has anyone been able to successfuly build xbmc themselves on wheezy? was it laborious? |
| 06:13.16 | jaami | iarinov: its my wifi that shows missing firmware when i try to use hotspot |
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| 06:13.40 | jaami | iarinov: i installed debian recently |
| 06:14.09 | iarinov | jaami, them public your `lspci` output |
| 06:14.18 | iarinov | `lsusb` too |
| 06:14.30 | iarinov | you can paste it somewhere |
| 06:15.56 | jaami | iarinov: plz see this link http://paste.debian.net/60055/ |
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| 06:16.32 | serotoninaeh | hola |
| 06:16.40 | serotoninaeh | alguien que me pueda ayudar |
| 06:16.44 | iarinov | jaami, 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02) |
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| 06:17.08 | jaami | iarinov: yes that is the wifi card |
| 06:17.23 | iarinov | in next time you can use `lspci | grep Wireless` to find out only what you need |
| 06:17.35 | jaami | oh thanks |
| 06:17.44 | iarinov | next you should look at non-free contents |
| 06:18.21 | jaami | what that means |
| 06:18.32 | iarinov | look this wiki page https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 06:18.39 | jaami | ok |
| 06:18.55 | jeep | jaami: you need to edit sources.list again |
| 06:19.02 | iarinov | in there you should find message: {i} For support of Intel 3945ABG/BG and 4965AGN devices, see iwlegacy. |
| 06:19.31 | iarinov | and your finish with this page https://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy |
| 06:19.55 | iarinov | that is instructions to set-up your card works fine |
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| 06:20.13 | iarinov | sorry about my 5-month English |
| 06:20.19 | themill | jaami: you need to install the firmware-iwlwifi package |
| 06:20.24 | iarinov | yes |
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| 06:21.08 | iarinov | but he gives you fish, and i gave you a fishing rod |
| 06:21.18 | jaami | yes but where i can find it. i thought apt-file will find |
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| 06:21.41 | jaami | i see |
| 06:21.41 | iarinov | look at wiki page |
| 06:21.50 | iarinov | Add a "non-free" component to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:22.07 | iarinov | Update the list of available packages |
| 06:22.19 | iarinov | and install it |
| 06:22.20 | iarinov | apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 06:22.22 | iarinov | thats it |
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| 06:23.45 | iarinov | i dont have this card but maybe you should reboot your debian to enable new firmware |
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| 06:24.10 | jaami | iarinov: exactly i found that on the wikipage |
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| 06:24.39 | zenwryly | Is there a way to list apt packages that have no source currently? |
| 06:25.02 | zenwryly | Looking to use it to see which packages I still need 3rd party sources for post upgrade. |
| 06:25.46 | zenwryly | IOW, some packages I've added sources for only because I needed a newer version than the current sources and I don't want to keep using those sources if the new version works just fine |
| 06:25.53 | themill | dpkg: tell zenwryly about obsolete |
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| 06:26.46 | iarinov | jaami, to add non-free sources you may just edit sources.list |
| 06:27.02 | iarinov | and paste `deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free` there |
| 06:27.02 | jaami | iarinov: please see this output of the command. i cannot figure out if it installed http://paste.debian.net/60058/ |
| 06:28.02 | zenwryly | themill: thanks, I swear I found that from stfw before but couldn't this time |
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| 06:28.21 | jaami | iarinov: this is what i need to add in source.list "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free" ? |
| 06:28.31 | iarinov | yes |
| 06:28.36 | themill | zenwryly: actually from what you describe, dpkg's "not available" might be better |
| 06:28.40 | iarinov | but you have some network problems |
| 06:28.42 | themill | jaami: not squeeze. wheezy |
| 06:28.52 | jaami | oh |
| 06:28.56 | zenwryly | themill: hmm, ok, I'll look at that |
| 06:29.03 | iarinov | yes, he is right |
| 06:29.05 | jaami | oh yes wheezy |
| 06:29.07 | iarinov | wheezy |
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| 06:29.43 | zenwryly | themill: would that consider apt sources? I always thought dpkg knew nothing about sources? |
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| 06:29.56 | iarinov | jaami, you should be sure you can reach repository services |
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| 06:30.16 | iarinov | it seems you cant |
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| 06:30.31 | themill | zenwryly: dpkg doesn't know anything about where packages came from |
| 06:30.34 | themill | oh |
| 06:30.40 | themill | dpkg: tell zenwryly about not available |
| 06:31.04 | zenwryly | themill: awesome |
| 06:31.18 | jaami | iarinov: i think it is problem with my isp. i have noticed that sometime bing.com isnt loaded and after few hits it leads the page |
| 06:31.32 | themill | (btw trying to work out why that search pattern works is bad for your mental health) |
| 06:31.51 | jaami | loads*** |
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| 06:32.34 | iarinov | then you should try other one |
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| 06:33.08 | iarinov | make a request to ISP with mirrorlist from debian site and ask which one can be reached all time |
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| 06:33.56 | jaami | ok |
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| 06:46.13 | bullgard4 | [wheezy] '~$ apt-cache search inxi' does not produce any output. What alternatives exist to inxi? |
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| 06:48.12 | themill | You could probably just install the jessie/sid package of that thing. I wouldn't recommend using it however. |
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| 06:48.23 | bullgard4 | ok |
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| 07:12.57 | azar | is it possible to ssh over a ipsec network connection?? |
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| 07:14.14 | vlt | azar: Should be, yes. |
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| 07:16.45 | azar | vlt: but I get an error says: "connection time out" , as soon as i run command "setkey -F", I can ssh to a remote host, what things should I check to find out the problem?? |
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| 07:18.07 | cooldharma06 | hi any tools is there for my debugging process |
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| 07:18.51 | cooldharma06 | i am running ls i see the system calls of ls by strace. is there any option or tool available to find which src file ls command is using |
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| 07:21.03 | jaami | iarinov: thank you for the help. the wiki link solved firmware problem. now wifi hotspot is working. |
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| 07:22.03 | jaami | the missing firmware was installed : Unpacking firmware-iwlwifi (from .../firmware-iwlwifi_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb) ... |
| 07:22.05 | jaami | Setting up firmware-iwlwifi (0.36+wheezy.1) ... |
| 07:22.07 | jaami | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:22.59 | jaami | now my browser stopped working. it does not load no site :) |
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| 07:25.54 | iarinov | jaami, check network configuration |
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| 07:27.49 | jaami | iarinov: can you help me to fix wired : Unmanaged problem? |
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| 07:29.58 | iarinov | jaami, first of all when you have connection problem - you should disconnect all connections |
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| 07:30.17 | jaami | ok |
| 07:30.19 | iarinov | connect every step-by-step with checking out network settings |
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| 07:30.29 | jaami | ok |
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| 07:30.58 | iarinov | simply you need: IP, netmask, gateway settings |
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| 07:32.16 | azar | does anybody know how to handle ssh over an ipsec network connection??ssh returns an error: "connection time out". |
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| 07:43.05 | Arafangion | Guys, could I have a review for CentOS linux? |
| 07:43.25 | Arafangion | A modern review, that is, written by someone who has used a non-rpm distro in teh past decade? |
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| 07:56.34 | jelly-home | Arafangion: how much are you prepared to pay for that work? |
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| 07:57.12 | Arafangion | jelly-home: Approximately zero dollars. |
| 07:57.19 | jelly-home | *nod* |
| 07:57.41 | jelly-home | good luck |
| 07:58.39 | Arafangion | jelly-home: Figured I'd ask, at least. :) |
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| 08:38.56 | colo-work | with wheezy and after the multilib change, is it possible to upgrade a Debian i386 installation to an amd64 installation in-place? |
| 08:39.18 | colo-work | (with a 64bit kernel, of course) |
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| 08:47.42 | guiniol | Hello, I had trouble upgrading debian so I tried to uninstall/reinstall it (after doing a backup) but it seems I can't even remove it so it's stuck in "partially installed" limbo. Anything I can do to tell apt to remove all it's got even if some scripts fail? |
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| 08:51.48 | nkuttler | !tell guiniol about bat |
| 08:52.24 | guiniol | nkuttler: will do |
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| 08:53.19 | Arafangion | guiniol: One doesn't "uninstall" debian. |
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| 08:54.23 | guiniol | Arafangion: I just want to uninstall one package, not the whole system |
| 08:54.45 | Arafangion | guiniol: That was unclear from your description. |
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| 08:55.40 | guiniol | sorry |
| 08:55.53 | guiniol | I have redmine installed |
| 08:56.06 | guiniol | but the safe-upgrade didn't work so I tried to uninstall it |
| 08:56.20 | guiniol | but it is stuck in partially installed limbo |
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| 08:56.28 | guiniol | so I want to uninstall it |
| 08:57.31 | guiniol | nkuttler: Arafangion: here are the pastes: dpkg http://paste.debian.net/60079/ apt-cache policy redmine http://paste.debian.net/60080/ apt-cache policy http://paste.debian.net/60081/ |
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| 09:06.00 | nkuttler | guiniol: you want to fix the prerm script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
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| 09:07.59 | SOUL_OF_R00T | nice morning |
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| 09:09.58 | guiniol | nkuttler: thanks, I thought it would re-extract it before trying to uninstall |
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| 09:10.36 | nkuttler | guiniol: why would that be necessary? |
| 09:10.38 | guiniol | I still get the same error when trying to install though |
| 09:10.52 | nkuttler | guiniol: add a set -x on the second line and see which command fails |
| 09:11.07 | guiniol | in case the prerm gets corrupted |
| 09:11.28 | guiniol | nkuttler: in the prerm script? |
| 09:11.39 | nkuttler | guiniol: yes |
| 09:11.53 | nkuttler | guiniol: if files get randomly corrupted on your box you have bigger problems anyway |
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| 09:15.37 | guiniol | nkuttler: I guess |
| 09:15.49 | guiniol | well, it seems it's something to do with the admin-pass |
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| 09:17.04 | nkuttler | guiniol: no idea what that is |
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| 09:17.37 | nkuttler | guiniol: you want to check it's manpage i guess |
| 09:19.20 | jaami | why apache server install do not show any output apt-get install apache2 ? |
| 09:19.39 | guiniol | nkuttler: it's not a command but I'd guess it |
| 09:20.00 | guiniol | 's dbconfig trying to remove the admin-password or asking me for it |
| 09:20.23 | guiniol | even though there shouldn't be because it's an sqlite db |
| 09:20.51 | nkuttler | guiniol: if it's something trivial you can just comment that part out i guess. it's a hack but works |
| 09:21.09 | nkuttler | guiniol: or add an exit 0 where you want to exit.. |
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| 09:22.05 | guiniol | nkuttler: I get it to remove the package, but apparently it is not clean enough for the reinstall to work |
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| 09:23.53 | nkuttler | guiniol: well, same thing again, find the error, is it the postinst script this time? and if necessary run the commands by hand and fix them |
| 09:24.10 | nkuttler | guiniol: and ideally try to reproduce the problem and report a bug :) |
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| 09:26.16 | guiniol | nkuttler: it's in the postinst and I get the same error when I run it manually, I just don't understand why |
| 09:26.34 | chrisoprase | Hi |
| 09:26.52 | chrisoprase | I need to change the rtl8192cu driver so it will recognise my usb adapter |
| 09:27.05 | chrisoprase | What's the best way to do it: install dkms and compile the driver, or compile the intire kernel with the new driver? |
| 09:27.36 | nkuttler | guiniol: then write a bug report with all the info. maybe the maintainer can help |
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| 09:29.07 | guiniol | nkuttler: yep. Not sure why no one else is seeing this though |
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| 09:31.37 | chrisoprase | By that I mean, is there any disadvantage in using dkms? |
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| 09:57.22 | Chelsea | Hi all, to what file should i look if i'd want to see a log of all connections (http, ssh, etc) to a server? I've looked through /var/log, but can't find what i'm searching for. |
| 09:57.25 | niklaswe | hey, I installing debian right now on a dell c1100 and it hangs on "configuring console-setup, any idé what i should do? |
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| 09:57.48 | niklaswe | I have installed the system with encrypted disk. and it tooks about 8 days to erase the disks... |
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| 09:59.57 | maxyz | niklaswe: It shouldn't, so I would suspect hardware issues. |
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| 10:00.55 | niklaswe | maxyz: how should I do so I can boot into it? if I exit the installer I cant load grub.. |
| 10:01.04 | babilen | Well, it depends on the size of the disks, which niklaswe might share with us. |
| 10:01.37 | babilen | niklaswe: Does it hang during the initial installation? Anything interesting on tty4 ? (ALT-F4) |
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| 10:02.21 | niklaswe | babilen: nope, it doesnt hangs on initial installation. |
| 10:02.44 | niklaswe | babilen: nothing intersting on tty4 it just saying configure console-setup |
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| 10:04.49 | babilen | niklaswe: Those two statements seem to contradict each other. My question was "Does the configuration of console-setup hang during the initial installation of Debian?". You shouldn't necessarily have information on tty4 about that if you installed Debian already. How large are your disks? |
| 10:06.00 | Arafangion | hopes they aren't 3.25 inches wide. |
| 10:06.18 | babilen | niklaswe: Do you have a console open? Which image did you use? Which installer? (text/graphic, standard or expert?) |
| 10:06.24 | niklaswe | babilen: oh sorry, this is the first time installing debian on it, the disks are 9TB |
| 10:06.39 | niklaswe | babilen: I using text-mode |
| 10:06.41 | niklaswe | standard |
| 10:07.20 | babilen | niklaswe: Okay, that is not completely improbable to take eight days. fwiw, you can safely interrupt that process if you don't want to overwrite the disks *again* on subsequent trials. |
| 10:07.38 | babilen | niklaswe: Do you have a console open somewhere? Anything unusual you did during the installation? |
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| 10:09.44 | babilen | niklaswe: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=705971 is a bug I am reading right now if you want to join in. There are others too that might provide additional information. |
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| 10:10.08 | niklaswe | I standing infront of the console right now, no the installation went smoothly, execpt it´s on 98% "Installing teh base system" - configure console-setup |
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| 10:11.03 | babilen | niklaswe: And you didn't open a console on say tty2, tty3, ... ? |
| 10:11.04 | Arafangion | niklaswe: You haven't hit scroll lock or control-S or something like that? |
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| 10:11.38 | babilen | niklaswe: Which image do you use? |
| 10:11.53 | niklaswe | babilen: the latest image |
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| 10:12.27 | niklaswe | Arafangion: hmm yes I havent :$ |
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| 10:12.41 | niklaswe | is ashemd :/ |
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| 10:12.50 | jackfinn | * - queries, there are numerous freenode volunteers and helpful |
| 10:12.52 | jackfinn | * - users who would be happy to try answer any questions you might |
| 10:12.52 | jackfinn | * - have. |
| 10:12.52 | jackfinn | * - |
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| 10:13.00 | jackfinn | I am getting this error when I try to login in SSH: "Disconnected: no supported authentication methods available (server sent publickey, gsappi-keyex, gsappi-with-mic)" - How can i fix this? heres my sshd_config file: http://pastebin.com/zJj8EUUr |
| 10:13.22 | babilen | jackfinn: Please don't spam the channel and make use of punctuation in lieu of the enter key. |
| 10:13.40 | jackfinn | alright babilen. |
| 10:13.46 | babilen | thanks :) |
| 10:14.04 | babilen | niklaswe: You hit ctrl-s ? |
| 10:14.06 | niklaswe | babilen: I had hit the scroll-lock key of misstake, sorry for all.. |
| 10:14.11 | babilen | heh |
| 10:14.32 | niklaswe | babilen: I had hit scroll-lock we change screen with scroll-arrow.. |
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| 10:15.09 | babilen | niklaswe: Fair enough, its just that you said "hmm yes I havent" which kind of implies that you, well, have *not* hit it :D |
| 10:15.34 | babilen | yay Arafangion |
| 10:16.18 | Arafangion | niklaswe: Sorry, I was actually *joking*, but pleased to see that I helped. :) I'll try not to be an idiot about it. :) |
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| 10:16.55 | Arafangion | niklaswe: But come to remember... I did hit scroll lock an astonishing number of times when I first started using GNU Screen. |
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| 10:17.21 | babilen | niklaswe: And keep in mind that you do not *have* to wait eight days for your disks to be erased as you can interrupt that process. The downside of that is that your disks will not be overwritten though. |
| 10:17.44 | jaami | can someone help me. this does not return anything. apt-get install apache2 |
| 10:17.51 | niklaswe | and sorry for my bad english. |
| 10:18.10 | babilen | dpkg: tell jaami -about bat |
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| 10:18.37 | babilen | jaami: Our bot just sent you a message in which it specifies the information we need to troubleshoot your problem. |
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| 10:20.05 | jackfinn | How can I check how many users are registered on my server, with how many privilleges...etc |
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| 10:20.30 | Arafangion | jackfinn: Depends on your system. |
| 10:20.44 | Arafangion | jackfinn: But if you're using the default setup, you're not using ldap. |
| 10:20.44 | babilen | jackfinn: Taking a look at /etc/passwd might be a first step, but you might have kerberos/ldap configured and whatnot. |
| 10:20.46 | jackfinn | arafangion: I am using a Debian. |
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| 10:20.56 | Arafangion | jackfinn: So you could do 'cat /etc/passwd | wc -l' |
| 10:20.58 | jackfinn | how can I add an user with root privilleges? |
| 10:21.00 | babilen | jackfinn: I am not sure what you mean by "how many privilleges" |
| 10:21.08 | Arafangion | jackfinn: But beyond that, you have to define what "privilages" mean. |
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| 10:21.13 | babilen | dpkg: tell jackfinn -about sudo |
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| 10:21.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell jackfinn -about sudoers |
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| 10:22.07 | jackfinn | I see. |
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| 10:22.24 | gdrc | hello |
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| 10:24.16 | Monotoko | long shot but, don't suppose anyone here has any experiance with serial modems? |
| 10:25.08 | Arafangion | Gah! The MEMORIES! |
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| 10:25.35 | Monotoko | heh :) it's to try to get our pager system working again >.< |
| 10:26.06 | Monotoko | basically since we've moved, it isn't dialing out at all... nothing is happening |
| 10:26.08 | JonB | after upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, CVS pserver login no longer works for Windows account using pam_winbind, but local unix users does work. Which name is debian cvs compiled with? --with-hardcoded-pam-service-name= |
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| 10:26.42 | babilen | Monotoko: I do have experience with them, but I haven't used one in at least fifteen years. Anything in particular you need help with? |
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| 10:27.04 | kexibq | hm, I have a 144mb audio I would like to upload to youtube, what are my options for going about this? |
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| 10:27.34 | Monotoko | babilen, I've done the basic check to see if it's plugged in, but attempting to use this perl script doesn't work no matter what number I dial using it, I will upload the script... hang on |
| 10:27.40 | gdrc | if I want to install the last debian relases, do I downlod the netinstall cd right? |
| 10:27.47 | JonB | kexibq: do you completely own the copyright to the audio and are you prepared to release it under a Creative Commons license? |
| 10:28.49 | kexibq | JonB: Correct |
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| 10:29.02 | babilen | Monotoko: Thanks, but I think that I've suppressed all memories of how to use one by now. Back in the day I knew the at commands by heart :-/ |
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| 10:29.39 | JonB | kexibq: have you considered putting them on archive.org? and if so, then you can use a ftp interface to upload them there |
| 10:29.41 | maxyz | Monotoko: First check with a terminal program like minicom if the modem is working. |
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| 10:30.04 | jaami | babilen, the command is apt-get install apache2 and it gave no output. here is policy detail http://paste.debian.net/60118/ |
| 10:30.18 | Monotoko | maxyz how do I do that? Sorry... this is all before my time |
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| 10:30.29 | kexibq | JonB: my problem is a bit strange, here at my fathers house the 'home-stereo' is hooked up to the tivo (which has youtube capability). And I want to listen to my stuff through that stereo |
| 10:30.37 | babilen | jaami: You commented that command. Just remove the '#' at the beginning and it should work. |
| 10:30.40 | maxyz | Monotoko: You'll need to configure minicom, (C-x C-o was it?, please check it) Configure the correct modem device. |
| 10:32.09 | jaami | babilen, i did not commented , the # is of prompt. im running command in terminal |
| 10:32.13 | Monotoko | maxyz, found a guide online... will have a go |
| 10:32.14 | maxyz | then save the configuration, exit, start it again.. The modem use the AT commands. A simple AT should answer you OK |
| 10:32.37 | JonB | kexibq: okay. Doesnt youtube have an API to mass upload? |
| 10:32.45 | babilen | jaami: "root@abator:/home/jaami# #apt-get install apache2" there is a "#" at the beginning of "apt-get" |
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| 10:34.05 | kexibq | JonB: I am unsure |
| 10:34.12 | jaami | babilen, im sorry yes. it was copied from web and # sign was there in command. i removed it and it worked. thanks |
| 10:35.27 | JonB | kexibq: I hardly ever upload stuff to youtube, I dont have any cats ;-) but I can not imagine that they dont have an API |
| 10:35.29 | babilen | jaami: No problem - You might understand why I wanted to see the exact command you used :) |
| 10:35.49 | jaami | babilen, you are good |
| 10:36.24 | babilen | jaami: btw, it sounds as if you are following a tutorial on something. A lot of tutorials are horrible and I would strongly recommend to read /usr/share/doc/apache*/README.Debian* before starting out whatever you are doing. (after installing apache naturally) |
| 10:37.02 | JonB | how do I see which compile options a debian package was build with? |
| 10:37.05 | babilen | jaami: Not saying that the particular tutorial *is* horrible, but its just good to learn about the way Apache is being configured and used on Debian. |
| 10:38.26 | jaami | babilen, yes, i needed good link. thanks |
| 10:38.38 | babilen | jaami: Good luck :) |
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| 10:48.19 | Arafangion | What kind of *awful* software products this website? http://deafinnswtimeline.com/ |
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| 10:49.35 | Arafangion | Worst. Slideshow. Ever. |
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| 10:55.48 | JonB | JonB: you see that by apt-get source <package> ; less <package>/debian/rules |
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| 10:58.26 | guiniol | nkuttler: the problem was with me, it's fixed |
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| 10:59.10 | nkuttler | guiniol: what was it? |
| 10:59.18 | guiniol | turns out that some gems had been installed via gem install and they were superseding the one installed by apt |
| 10:59.31 | nkuttler | ouch |
| 10:59.38 | nkuttler | doesn't ruby have something like virtualenv? |
| 10:59.41 | guiniol | and only some were installed like that and the versions weren't right |
| 11:00.13 | phenylanine | hello everyone. I have a rather "newbie" question, but I assure you I did my search and couldn't find an explanation. my problem is this: when I went on to install Varnish Cache, the instructions on its webpage state that I must add a GPG-key to "apt-key" before adding download URL to apt downloading sources and downloading the application. Why do I need to add a GPG key to "apt-key"? What does this do? Thank you very much. |
| 11:00.37 | guiniol | there is a gem integrtion package |
| 11:00.44 | guiniol | but something was wrong |
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| 11:00.56 | guiniol | so I removed the gems installed via gem |
| 11:00.57 | guiniol | \ |
| 11:01.01 | guiniol | and it works |
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| 11:01.38 | fishsponge | hello! is anyone here an Arkeia backup user?? if so, here's my question: Arkeia says: "1000" MB, compressed at "10.0" Does this mean 1000 MB has been written to tape, or only 100 MB has been written to tape? |
| 11:01.48 | nkuttler | phenylanine: varnish is packaged, if you use a third party repo you need to tell apt to trust it. btw, don't do that |
| 11:02.05 | nkuttler | phenylanine: what's wrong with the packaged one anyway? |
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| 11:02.39 | nkuttler | fishsponge: just a guess, but it sounds like a compression setting? |
| 11:02.44 | fishsponge | also, if 1000 MB has been written to tape, that means the original data was much larger... I need to know what it means... |
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| 11:03.10 | fishsponge | nkuttler, it is a compression setting - you can turn compression on, and it compresses as best as it can, but I need to know whether 1000 MB has been written to tape, or only 100 MB... |
| 11:03.20 | aladdin | hello |
| 11:04.07 | fishsponge | nkuttler, the real logs are: "3552373" MB, compressed at "3.8" - I changed it to 1000 and 10.0 to make things easier |
| 11:04.42 | fishsponge | so i basically need to know whether 3552373 MB was read from disk and then made smaller to go on tape, or whether 3552373 MB was actually written to tape (and the original data was therefore larger) |
| 11:05.09 | Arafangion | fishsponge: And you can't test it? |
| 11:05.12 | aladdin | I tried to install debian wheezy with wireless keyboard but It seems it's not detected I tried to pass noapic and nolapic but no luck |
| 11:05.23 | aladdin | source : https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ#Q:_When_I_run_the_DebianInstaller.2C_my_keyboard_doesn.27t_work.21 |
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| 11:05.32 | aladdin | any tips ? |
| 11:05.55 | aladdin | works fine with other distro (Archlinux, Ubuntu ....) |
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| 11:06.24 | fishsponge | Arafangion, I can test it, but no time - urgent rush with deadline!# |
| 11:06.28 | fishsponge | i guess nobody knows the answer... |
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| 11:12.19 | niklaswe | how can I setup more dummy-interfaces? |
| 11:13.04 | niklaswe | I have 1 dummy0 interface, and I want to setup one more dummy1 interface, but it doesnt work for me.. |
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| 11:31.09 | niklaswe | whats wrong with this.. http://pastebin.com/Z3D8SLrr |
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| 11:32.01 | Monotoko | ahhh, and so, the modem rings across the land - thank you maxyx |
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| 11:46.45 | pakaran | Hi, does debian support ricerfs? |
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| 11:50.57 | icesword | !reiserfs |
| 11:50.57 | dpkg | ReiserFS version 3 (aka Reiser3) is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. Ask me about <ext3>, <jfs> and <xfs> for safer filesystems. See also <reiserfs d-i>, <ext3 vs reiserfs>, <rfstool>, <reiser4>. |
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| 12:02.27 | icesword | HELLO |
| 12:02.48 | icesword | how big is a debian install DVD |
| 12:03.03 | icesword | 4 G? or more |
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| 12:06.05 | AimHere | icesword, the full Debian comes on about 5 DVDs by now; you can install Debian quite happily off one of those (or even a CD) |
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| 12:06.43 | CharmaineLeon | hi all, how do i make a debian a DC? |
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| 12:07.40 | niklaswe | where should I add alias netdev-dummy1 ? |
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| 12:08.13 | icesword | ok that's too big … |
| 12:08.40 | icesword | what is making debian a DC |
| 12:08.51 | themill | icesword: what is your real question? |
| 12:08.52 | doebi | i just did 'apt-get upgrade' on my remote server, and it wants to install GRUB, what should i do? |
| 12:09.27 | icesword | themill what why so defensive |
| 12:09.43 | themill | eh? |
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| 12:10.52 | icesword | doebi you don't have grub? what bootloader you using |
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| 12:13.27 | doebi | icesword: i have no idea whats going on |
| 12:13.39 | doebi | there should be a grub installed |
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| 12:13.50 | doebi | http://pastebin.com/ejWABKZR |
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| 12:14.58 | bezoka | updating Debian from stable to testing |
| 12:15.00 | bezoka | :D |
| 12:15.20 | themill | doebi: is it possible that you're upgrading from one debian release to another here? |
| 12:15.36 | jelly | CharmaineLeon: as in windows Domain Controller? |
| 12:15.58 | doebi | themill: dont think so, i got wheezy, installed on 16.sep |
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| 12:18.06 | icesword | doebi did you install windows after that |
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| 12:18.55 | bin | anyone has any idea after compiling to 3.10 kernel i dont have fstab ? |
| 12:19.13 | abrotman | your kernel doesn't erase files in /etc/ |
| 12:19.30 | bin | but where? |
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| 12:19.42 | abrotman | but where what? |
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| 12:19.54 | bin | do that |
| 12:20.01 | abrotman | bin: maybe you should tell us what the real problem is |
| 12:20.11 | bin | i dont have fstab file |
| 12:20.19 | abrotman | what makes you say that? |
| 12:20.38 | abrotman | (and why did you compile your kernel anyway) |
| 12:21.31 | bin | the problem is taht when i want to execute fstab , unable to locate the package |
| 12:21.33 | bin | well the file is there |
| 12:21.46 | Rydekull | execute fstab? |
| 12:21.56 | abrotman | bin: why did you comile your kernel? does the old one work? |
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| 12:22.26 | themill | bin: is there any chance you can put some real commands and real output in a pastebin for us? |
| 12:22.42 | doebi | icesword: WHAT? Windows? gth |
| 12:22.43 | abrotman | wonders if bin's rootfs is missing? |
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| 12:23.16 | icesword | gotohell? |
| 12:23.25 | doebi | i am talking of a remote vhost, only running wheezy |
| 12:23.39 | doebi | i wrote the support, lets say what they tell me |
| 12:23.44 | doebi | *see |
| 12:24.08 | doebi | icesword: sorry, but one does not simply install windows on a vhost |
| 12:24.32 | Shadur | icesword: The full DVD set of debian is "so big" because it contains literally /every/ piece of software that has maintained debian package. |
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| 12:24.51 | abrotman | minus contrib and non-free |
| 12:25.05 | epsilon | bin: you don't habe /etc/fstab? |
| 12:25.09 | abrotman | and minus source |
| 12:25.19 | abrotman | epsilon: that's not what he said |
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| 12:25.31 | Shadur | That's on the close order of 35K packages. |
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| 12:26.18 | Rydekull | abrotman: well, that's debatable. 14:20:11 < bin> i dont have fstab file |
| 12:26.29 | epsilon | doesn not compute... whatever |
| 12:26.35 | abrotman | Rydekull: he corrected it later |
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| 12:26.54 | Shadur | In general usage you're unlikely to ever need/use more than about ten percent of those; it's just that aside from the base-essential it's unlikely that the ten percent /you/ use has much in common with the ten percent someone else might be using. |
| 12:26.55 | abrotman | he says he has it, but can't execute it .. but hasn't told us what he's trying to do or an actual error message |
| 12:27.17 | Shadur | If he doesn't have /etc/fstab then I wonder how his system booted. |
| 12:27.20 | epsilon | yea I had something like 'mount -a' in mind... |
| 12:27.55 | abrotman | why don't you wait for him to actually give us something instead of speculating what he's screwed up |
| 12:28.41 | Shadur | But the speculating is fun! |
| 12:28.49 | epsilon | +1! |
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| 12:29.39 | linjian | test |
| 12:29.49 | Rydekull | test confirmed, proceed to checkout |
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| 12:29.57 | linjian | thanks! |
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| 12:30.33 | rupplea | I tried to run debian (200MB iso) using vbox, but when I go into the window, my keyboard stops working |
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| 12:31.51 | icesword | ruppla then you don't netinstall |
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| 12:32.24 | themill | icesword: how would that help? |
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| 12:32.34 | StaticLNX | i wonder if the 200mb installs guest additions |
| 12:33.11 | icesword | should try a normal install with a CD |
| 12:33.15 | abrotman | did anyone tell him the release key? |
| 12:33.53 | themill | icesword: what's a normal install? |
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| 12:34.07 | icesword | 700M CD |
| 12:34.17 | themill | there's no difference in the installer |
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| 12:34.40 | icesword | themill why you highlight me all the time |
| 12:34.47 | StaticLNX | packages |
| 12:35.16 | abrotman | icesword: to correct you sadly |
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| 12:35.38 | StaticLNX | lol? D: |
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| 12:36.19 | icesword | whatever… |
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| 12:37.10 | abrotman | it's not whatever |
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| 12:37.34 | StaticLNX | whatever |
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| 12:39.07 | abrotman | icesword: there is no need for you to msg me |
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| 12:39.33 | icesword | ok |
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| 12:39.35 | abrotman | icesword: you can ask me in #debian-offtopic if you need to know |
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| 12:40.04 | icesword | there s no need for you to teach me i know how to eat |
| 12:40.16 | abrotman | you can discuss this in #debian-offtopic |
| 12:40.20 | abrotman | I won't suggest it again |
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| 12:40.49 | Sevet | the wise man knows he knows nothing |
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| 12:48.31 | Seemi | Hello gentlemen and ladies, I've got two servers, one is running as an router, and the other is running a webserver, how do i forward that port 80 from Webserver -> eth1 router -> eth0 WAN ? |
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| 12:49.09 | abrotman | Seemi: plenty of docs at netfilter.org about doing this |
| 12:49.20 | Seemi | I've searched for iptables forwarding and tried a bunch of generators but noone seem to work. =/ Maybe im using wrong search query. |
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| 12:51.40 | avalarion | dpkg --get-selections | grep deinstall | wc -l returns 23... shouldn't that be 0? |
| 12:51.40 | dpkg | selects avalarion's ultra-s3kr3t collection |
| 12:52.19 | Seemi | abrotman: Yeah i was in that channel before but got shutdown for asking, I was very polite. But no luck. I mean this must be a common problem, since some people use debian for router, you'd think there's a decent howto do this. But no luck searching =/ |
| 12:52.46 | abrotman | Seemi: not channel, website |
| 12:52.51 | abrotman | Seemi: netfilter.org, it's a website |
| 12:53.47 | Seemi | abrotman: Yeah, i was in their channel. I understand that's website also. Alot of their howto's are 404 tho. |
| 12:54.10 | themill | avalarion: the selections are the end state you want to reach not the current state. If you tell apt to try to apply these selections (with something like apt-get dselect-upgrade) then it will try to make them the current state. |
| 12:54.35 | abrotman | Seemi: they seem fine here, but i'm looking at the HTML versions (in English) |
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| 12:55.03 | proximity | hey guys |
| 12:55.14 | Seemi | abrotman oh yeah, but not the tutorials at the bottom. |
| 12:55.23 | proximity | how to apply aufs to debian wheezy 3.10.0 -bpo3 |
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| 12:55.43 | abrotman | Seemi: oh, right .. but the HOWTOs should have the info you need |
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| 12:56.19 | proximity | anyone ? |
| 12:56.21 | Seemi | abrotman right, thanks. Might giving me a tip on what i would be looking out for? There got to be term for what im searching for. Maybe ? =) |
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| 12:57.30 | abrotman | Seemi: i thnk the NAT may have the info |
| 12:57.34 | avalarion | themill, I tried that already. All what happend a reinstall of java and now nothing. I ran apt-get dselect and rerun my command. But still 23 packages. |
| 12:57.39 | proximity | :( |
| 12:57.44 | Seemi | abrotman ok thanks =) |
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| 12:59.27 | themill | avalarion: oh... deinstall is also a status for packages that have been removed but not purged. |
| 12:59.32 | themill | dpkg: tell avalarion about purge |
| 12:59.51 | proximity | please |
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| 13:00.05 | themill | (we tend to look at the status using dpkg -l or aptitude versions or aptitude search these days because that shows actual status rather than desired status) |
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| 13:02.44 | avalarion | themill I am going to read documentation about that! Thank you! |
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| 13:03.39 | themill | avalarion: "dpkg -l | grep .c" or "aptitude search ~c" to list them; aptitude purge ~c to purge all of them |
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| 13:20.27 | mjt | are there some tools to help fixing bad blocks on hdd? Ideally to re-write a given place in a filesystem, but just calculating on which partition the issue is will be help too |
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| 13:22.12 | icesword | mjt how big is that bad sector? |
| 13:22.30 | mjt | f.e. i've several raid arrays - right now the "algorithm" i use is to find the partition in question (by looking at sfdisk -d), and run "repair" action on the raid who will read _all_ blocks instead of just one |
| 13:22.41 | mjt | icesword: it is always the device sector (512 or 4096 bytes) |
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| 13:25.10 | icesword | i think you can fill that block with useless data then use other blocks |
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| 13:29.57 | k2h | Hi all |
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| 13:31.07 | k2h | I'm newer in debian (linux in general), and i have one pb with grub, i w'd like help pleas |
| 13:31.36 | k2h | anyone can do that ? :) |
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| 13:32.10 | dioz | depends if you know how to ask the question or not |
| 13:32.18 | dioz | if you don't know how to ask questions we'll be here for a long time i presume |
| 13:32.19 | grammoboy | is ffmpeg not in jelly? |
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| 13:32.30 | grammoboy | jessie it is |
| 13:32.44 | grammoboy | http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=ffmpeg |
| 13:32.48 | petn-randall | Hello k2h, no problem being new to Debian :). It's custom to ask about your problem straight away, usually somebody can help you with it. |
| 13:32.49 | k2h | yes, i dont speak english well lol |
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| 13:37.04 | k2h | I recently installed debian wheezy and does not ask me to install grub, and after reboot, I get the message: |
| 13:37.05 | k2h | No. eperating system found, |
| 13:37.06 | k2h | What I did, I installed ubuntu to retrieve the grub, and I have a dual boot (ubuntu and debian), what I want to do is remove and keep only ubuntu debian |
| 13:37.24 | k2h | keep only debian |
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| 13:37.43 | SpeedFire | Hi everyone, I am triying to find an opensource software to manage project, I mean something fiable, simple, and where I can also manage the $$$ aspect. Someone can help me to go to the right direction ? |
| 13:37.44 | k2h | remove ubuntu and keep only debian without lost grub |
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| 13:38.31 | bhuddah | SpeedFire: look for taskjuggler. |
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| 13:39.21 | SpeedFire | THANKS ! that's look like exactly what I need :d I am gonna check thaht deeply ^_^ |
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| 13:42.25 | k2h | I recently installed debian wheezy and does not ask me to install grub, and after reboot, I get the message: |
| 13:42.38 | k2h | No. eperating system found, |
| 13:42.47 | k2h | What I did, I installed ubuntu to retrieve the grub, and I have a dual boot (ubuntu and debian), what I want to do is remove ubuntu and keep only debian os |
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| 13:44.16 | D4v33 | in Squeee there was find in files, I.E. find a string in a directory yet in wheezy this appears to be missing (well I can't find it) anyone know where it is or do I have to use another tool like search-monkey? |
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| 13:45.32 | mtn | k2h: first, repair your grub from debian, second, if you really want to get rid of ubuntu, use gparted and reformat the ubuntu partition. |
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| 13:47.06 | k2h | how to fix it from debian? |
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| 13:48.08 | mtn | k2h: assuming you have one hard drive or on the first hard drive: grub-install /dev/sda |
| 13:48.36 | linux-fox | hi,all |
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| 13:50.28 | AlexPortable | E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 13:50.28 | AlexPortable | E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 13:50.31 | AlexPortable | how to fix? |
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| 13:50.38 | jelly | AlexPortable: be root |
| 13:50.47 | AlexPortable | root@server: |
| 13:50.49 | AlexPortable | how am I not root? |
| 13:51.20 | jelly | AlexPortable: that's good. Also, check for any leftover apt or aptitude or other package manager processes |
| 13:51.35 | AlexPortable | how? |
| 13:52.18 | jelly | AlexPortable: look for them in the list of processes, ps -fe |
| 13:54.06 | AlexPortable | root 7480 7457 0 15:53 ? 00:00:00 /usr/bin/apt-get -o Acquire::htt |
| 13:54.43 | AlexPortable | killed it |
| 13:54.44 | AlexPortable | problem solved |
| 13:54.47 | AlexPortable | thanks |
| 13:55.44 | jhutchins | AlexPortable: You might try running it as a non-root user. You will understand then why that was jelly's first suggestion. |
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| 13:57.09 | AlexPortable | ah |
| 13:57.39 | Uranio | hi, how could I use the module ar5523 (a wifi driver) in debian wheeze? |
| 13:58.21 | Seemi | Hey, if i use tcpdump on an debian router i get all pakages that leaves and enters the network, is it possible to achive this on another machine on the same network ? |
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| 13:59.37 | Cyis | Uranio: https://wiki.debian.org/ar5523 |
| 13:59.48 | Cyis | nothing a lil google-fu couldn't find |
| 14:00.17 | Uranio | Cyis: nop, that do not work |
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| 14:02.45 | Uranio | Seemi: I suggest wireshark |
| 14:03.59 | babilen | Uranio: How so? And could you show us the output of "lspci -nn|grep -i network" along with that of "aptitude search '~i~n^linx-image'" and "apt-cache policy firmware-atheros". Please also be specific about the exact meaning of "that do not work". Does it sit on the couch all day? |
| 14:04.29 | babilen | Uranio: Ah, forget the lspci and show us the lsusb output please. |
| 14:04.37 | babilen | (all on http://paste.debian.net ) |
| 14:05.21 | Uranio | babilen: my bandiwth is very whink, I shall use a more light pastebin |
| 14:05.25 | Cyis | Seemi: if you're network is using a switch then you're not likely to see the traffic your expecting unless the source running tcpdump/wireshark is either the source or destination |
| 14:05.30 | babilen | Uranio: sure |
| 14:05.42 | Uranio | babilen: ZyXEL Communications Corp. G-270S 802.11bg Wireless Adapter [Atheros AR5523] |
| 14:05.46 | Uranio | that all |
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| 14:06.03 | babilen | Uranio: Oh, and make it "aptitude search '~i~n^linux-image'" |
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| 14:06.37 | Uranio | babilen: as I'm reading, need kernel 3 from backports |
| 14:06.41 | Uranio | is that ok? |
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| 14:06.59 | Cyis | Uranio: yes. it wasn't introducted until the 3.8 branch |
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| 14:07.26 | Uranio | oh my... :-/ |
| 14:07.35 | babilen | Uranio: I thought you tried the instructions on that wiki page already. Did you? You do need the kernel from backports for that device and firmware-atheros. Please follow those isntructions and come back once you are done :) |
| 14:07.50 | Uranio | thanks you two... |
| 14:07.56 | Cyis | If you didn't gather that from the wiki.debian.org link I mentioned you never resd it cause it says that very plainly |
| 14:08.08 | babilen | Uranio: Well, so heed Cyis original advice :) |
| 14:08.19 | babilen | Cyis: It does indeed |
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| 14:08.46 | Cyis | color me crazy but "ar5523 is a free and oepn source mac80211 driver introduced at Linux 3.8" is pretty clear |
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| 14:09.45 | Uranio | I just a bit panic about kernel 3... Having bad experiences using it on debian |
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| 14:09.55 | Uranio | that why just not read that part |
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| 14:10.09 | Cyis | I've been running 3.x kernels on Debian for awhile now without incident |
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| 14:12.02 | Uranio | I jsut to have a Nvidea video card and that was very painfull |
| 14:12.06 | Uranio | with 3.x |
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| 14:13.28 | Cyis | Uranio: you're going to need firmware-atheros version 0.39 or newer |
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| 14:14.45 | Uranio | Cyis: ok, it the wiki apge work (must work) I'll tell you tomorrow after download all |
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| 14:17.00 | nongeek | Hello Debian |
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| 14:17.23 | nongeek | I joined my Debian to windows domain and after it i can't login to debian |
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| 14:18.21 | babilen | Uranio: 3.x kernels are the absolute standard on Debian wheezy and using nvidia drivers shouldn't be a problem either if you follow the instructions on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 14:18.42 | Rug | Howdy all |
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| 14:20.40 | DamienCassou | hi |
| 14:20.49 | Rug | I need some advice, I have a high-capacity internet connection that I am trying to stress-test (to make sure the ISP is actually providing the bandwidth we are paying for.) I have run iperf, I have tried torrenting, and well I am running out of ideas to test this pipe. Any suggestions? |
| 14:20.54 | Uranio | babilen: good to know |
| 14:21.00 | DamienCassou | is there any channel for package maintainers? |
| 14:21.14 | babilen | dpkg: tell DamienCassou -about mentors |
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| 14:22.00 | Rug | actually after things settle down, I was planning on setting up our connection as an official Debian mirror. |
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| 14:22.25 | Uranio | Rug: until now, I gest the more acurate high speed is a scp copy |
| 14:22.37 | Uranio | try one, from your big pipe to another |
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| 14:22.52 | babilen | Rug: Download wikipedia dumps comes to mind ... |
| 14:22.57 | Rug | Uranio: I tried that too, but the speed was 1/10 of what I was getting with iperf.... =) |
| 14:23.17 | Uranio | and I guest that mrtg is your favorite tool |
| 14:23.22 | babilen | Rug: But that also depends on *their* bandwidth and the routing between |
| 14:23.23 | Uranio | mrtg and smokeping |
| 14:23.30 | Rug | I wish I could get a 10GB file from Microsoft. |
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| 14:23.49 | Uranio | Rug: try smokeping against your gateway |
| 14:23.58 | Rug | mrtg? never heard of it. I'll check it out. |
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| 14:24.09 | Rug | smoke ping. ok thanks |
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| 14:24.53 | Uranio | it will measure your bandwith |
| 14:24.58 | Uranio | using latency |
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| 14:25.02 | Uranio | Rug: also nethogs |
| 14:25.06 | DamienCassou | babilen: thank you |
| 14:25.20 | Rug | Uranio: thanks... These are all good suggestions. |
| 14:25.23 | babilen | DamienCassou: np |
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| 14:25.52 | Uranio | Rug: put this a google translator from spanish http://otherlinuxblog.blogspot.com/2012/11/mrtg-y-snmp.html |
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| 14:26.04 | Uranio | there you have mrtg for measure bandiwth |
| 14:26.19 | [jasper] | hej guys, I'm running a backported kernel on debian wheezy...is it possible to remake the kernel with CONFIG_LPC_ICH option disabled? |
| 14:26.53 | babilen | [jasper]: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html |
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| 14:27.07 | Uranio | Rug: mrtg generate grafics |
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| 14:27.12 | Uranio | have good day |
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| 14:27.21 | Rug | Uranio: thanks for your help... |
| 14:27.36 | [jasper] | babilen, I was refering more to this because I'm allready running a backported kernel.. |
| 14:27.37 | jeep | [jasper]: you can build your own kernel you know? |
| 14:29.11 | [jasper] | babilen, do I need to get the kernel sources also from backport then? |
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| 14:30.08 | babilen | [jasper]: You need the sources for the kernel version in backports and its config, yes. |
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| 14:30.46 | [jasper] | babilen, and it's config...is this a different package then linux-source? |
| 14:31.07 | Monotoko | babilen, thought you'd like to know that I got the modem working ;) |
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| 14:37.26 | veryape | hi, I managed to install updates on my debian sid box that made my fglrx-legacy-drive package not to work, is there anyway to go back? |
| 14:37.42 | babilen | [jasper]: You find the kernel config in /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 14:37.50 | babilen | (if booted into the kernel you are looking for) |
| 14:37.54 | veryape | so that it backports to the old packages that fglrx-legacy-drive is dependant on |
| 14:38.15 | babilen | veryape: yes, IIRC fglrx is broken at the moment. You also want #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for testing/sid support. |
| 14:38.28 | veryape | babilen: ok thanks |
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| 14:38.51 | babilen | veryape: You should be able to use the radeon driver though and I might not be totally up-to-date as I don't have radeon hardware around |
| 14:38.57 | babilen | (and don't use fglrx) |
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| 14:40.33 | oo_miguel | when I access my emails remotely with mutt throgh dovecots imap server, I can not delete anything since I get: mailbox is readonly. how can I make it writable? |
| 14:41.12 | bhuddah | maybe press "%" |
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| 15:12.15 | [jasper] | babilen, how will I use the old config with make menuconfig? |
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| 15:17.53 | shad0VV | is there any way to find a file to which package belongs? |
| 15:18.19 | CissWit | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.32 | CissWit | dpkg: tell shad0VV about apt-file |
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| 15:19.26 | shad0VV | CissWit: hmm this one should have been included by default |
| 15:19.49 | shad0VV | s/included/installed |
| 15:20.22 | CissWit | it creates and index which is a little heavy. As it's not a usual production need, it's not included by default |
| 15:20.36 | [jasper] | guys, what do the options in makedep mean? [m/y/?] |
| 15:20.44 | [jasper] | i guess m= module...not sure about the other 2 though |
| 15:20.46 | CissWit | it's of course debatable |
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| 15:21.44 | Sevet_ | shad0VV: dpkg -S /path/to/file |
| 15:21.51 | Sevet_ | (if it's an installed package) |
| 15:22.03 | shad0VV | hmm that makes sense |
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| 15:22.13 | [jasper] | anyone who can tell me? |
| 15:22.21 | [jasper] | what these values mean? [m/y/?] ? |
| 15:22.31 | shad0VV | y = probably yes |
| 15:22.36 | Sevet_ | [jasper]: m=module (load with modprobe), y=builtin |
| 15:22.36 | shad0VV | ? probably help |
| 15:22.45 | shad0VV | yes(builtin) |
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| 15:22.58 | [jasper] | so how do I say NO ? |
| 15:23.05 | [jasper] | as in I don't want it? |
| 15:23.34 | CissWit | did you type ? and checked the output ? |
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| 15:23.42 | Sevet_ | i would have assumed n, but it's not listed... perhaps it's a dependancy of something else? |
| 15:24.03 | shad0VV | Sevet_: dpkg -S for some reason doesn't work |
| 15:24.11 | [jasper] | ok...I did a wrong manual entry into .config |
| 15:24.13 | [jasper] | that solved it |
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| 15:24.49 | shad0VV | the reason i am asking, is because i am not the owner of the debian OS, so i am not sure who i will find a filename to which package belongs |
| 15:25.05 | Sevet_ | what's the filename? |
| 15:25.15 | shad0VV | CissWit: apt-file probably works only for sources that are part of sources.list |
| 15:25.19 | shad0VV | cserverauto |
| 15:25.28 | shad0VV | Sevet_: ^^ |
| 15:25.40 | Sevet_ | re source - correct (and you need to do apt-file update before apt-file search'll work) |
| 15:26.04 | shad0VV | Sevet_: ofc i can read warnings :) |
| 15:26.06 | Sevet_ | path? and are you sure that's part of a package? |
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| 15:26.31 | shad0VV | for sure it belongs to a package |
| 15:26.45 | shad0VV | this one is under plesk panel's product_root |
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| 15:26.54 | YANS | y0 |
| 15:27.08 | shad0VV | i have included plesk's repo, so it would search there too |
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| 15:27.48 | Sevet_ | even so it won't get listed if it's created by the program *after* the package gets installed |
| 15:28.14 | shad0VV | i see |
| 15:28.26 | shad0VV | through some script |
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| 15:29.23 | Sevet_ | just a guess but that could explain why dpkg -S doesn't show it |
| 15:30.05 | shad0VV | Sevet_: probably this is the reason |
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| 15:30.28 | shad0VV | thanks |
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| 15:36.34 | babilen | [jasper]: You copy it into $PWD and run "make oldconfig" ; that should be explained in the guide, isn't it? |
| 15:37.10 | babilen | [jasper]: Please read "4.5 Building a custom kernel from Debian kernel source" |
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| 15:38.04 | [jasper] | I did babilen , where does it actually say where to copy your config file too? |
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| 15:45.40 | babilen | [jasper]: "It is also possible to reuse your old configuration file by placing it as a .config file in the top-level directory ..." |
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| 15:50.47 | babilen | [jasper]: But please read the manual, I haven't memorised it and haven't had the need to compile my own kernel in about ten years, so |
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| 15:56.05 | Couch | Could anyone suggest good deb package archive management tools for me ? |
| 15:56.18 | CissWit | apt-get, aptitude |
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| 15:57.54 | Couch | CissWit: I meant for generating release, contents package files etc.. |
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| 16:01.04 | CissWit | there are plenty of documentation on how to compile/recompile/create a debian packages, |
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| 16:01.22 | CissWit | i find this documentation : http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ very useful too |
| 16:01.24 | maxyz | Couch: ? |
| 16:01.34 | babilen | dpkg: tell Couch -about own repo |
| 16:01.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell Couch -about reprepro |
| 16:01.51 | maxyz | Oh, right |
| 16:02.10 | Couch | I'm using apt-ftparchive, used reprepro, thought I'd ask the guys at #debian-devel about what they use |
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| 16:02.41 | Couch | something that supports multiple versions of a package would be +1 |
| 16:03.45 | maxyz | Couch: I use reprepro for my personal repos, debian uses dinstall |
| 16:04.01 | Couch | maxyz: thanks |
| 16:04.51 | mjt | ftparchive is a very small and easy to use tool once you script it |
| 16:04.56 | mjt | apt-ftparchive that is |
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| 16:05.57 | Couch | mjt: do you know if it supports setting settings like NotAutomatic: yes ? |
| 16:06.05 | Couch | I tried but failed |
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| 16:06.43 | mjt | notautomatic? no idea what it is |
| 16:06.53 | mjt | i always use apt preferences for that stuff |
| 16:08.04 | Couch | fair enough. It lowers the priority of packages in the archive |
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| 16:13.02 | LurtzCZ | Hi guys, i am debian/linux beginer and i need a help. i want to instal this package http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/python-irclib but "apt-get install python-irclib" says "E: Unable to locate package python-irclib" What should i do? /etc/apt/sources.list contains ftp.debian.org/debian squeezy so it should find it |
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| 16:14.26 | babilen | judd: v python-irclib |
| 16:14.27 | judd | Package: python-irclib on i386 -- squeeze: 0.4.8-1; wheezy: 0.4.8-1; jessie: 0.4.8-1.1; sid: 0.4.8-1.1; experimental: 3.2-1.1 |
| 16:14.47 | drybjed | LurtzCZ: not squeezy, squeeze |
| 16:14.55 | drybjed | check your apt sources |
| 16:14.57 | babilen | LurtzCZ: It is "squeeze" not "squeezy" and you should have more entries than that in there. |
| 16:15.07 | babilen | dpkg: tell LurtzCZ -about squeeze sources.list |
| 16:15.12 | babilen | dpkg: tell LurtzCZ -about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 16:15.22 | LurtzCZ | yes it is, it was typo. |
| 16:15.34 | babilen | LurtzCZ: Once you upgraded your squeeze system you should also consider upgrading the box to wheezy (current stable release) |
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| 16:16.03 | babilen | LurtzCZ: You are still missing important entries ("main" in particular, but please refer to the information our bot just sent you in private) |
| 16:17.14 | LurtzCZ | i prefer not tu upgrade at it is VPS i rented and i need to learn to use it before i starty modifying it |
| 16:17.30 | LurtzCZ | i will try what bot wrote me... ttyl |
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| 16:17.57 | babilen | LurtzCZ: Sure, but you should still use a suitable sources.list for squeeze. Make sure to enable security repositories too! |
| 16:18.16 | babilen | LurtzCZ: You might also be interested in reading http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html |
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| 16:22.33 | Racqueteering | Hi, so Im new to Debian and was hoping someone could shed some light onto something I've been wondering. Why would I want to choose debian over ubuntu server in the future for a build? |
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| 16:23.20 | Racqueteering | Or, more specifically, what is the difference between debian without a desktop environment vs ubuntu server? |
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| 16:23.51 | Racqueteering | Ubuntu is directly based on debian isn't it? |
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| 16:24.27 | peterrooney | Racqueteering: that's an extreme oversimplification. |
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| 16:24.49 | Racqueteering | Ok good! |
| 16:24.54 | Racqueteering | Bc I wasn't competely sure |
| 16:25.07 | Racqueteering | Can i get some good sources on where I can learn more? |
| 16:25.28 | peterrooney | Racqueteering: asking around here is a fair start. moment... |
| 16:25.37 | drybjed | Racqueteering: http://askubuntu.com/questions/52066/what-is-the-difference-between-ubuntu-and-debian-server |
| 16:25.54 | Warp4 | Racqueteering, IIRC Ubuntu is more "bleeding edge" than Debian is. |
| 16:26.32 | Racqueteering | or just a run down on the differences between ubuntu and debian in general. Because ubuntu being a direct port of debian is an over-simplification implies that there are some big differences between ubuntu and debian. |
| 16:26.41 | drybjed | Racqueteering: do you want bleeding edge on your servers? |
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| 16:26.52 | drybjed | Racqueteering: see link I posted |
| 16:27.03 | Racqueteering | Ok,didnt see it. |
| 16:27.09 | Racqueteering | sorry haha |
| 16:27.17 | Racqueteering | Why would I want the bleeding edge? |
| 16:27.21 | Racqueteering | Just the most recent updates? |
| 16:27.25 | Racqueteering | to packages |
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| 16:27.56 | Warp4 | Racqueteering, `i guess it's just a matter of preference |
| 16:28.15 | Warp4 | Racqueteering, if there were some apps you wanted tested with newer stuff, then I would run bleeding edge |
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| 16:28.22 | Racqueteering | Is there substantially less "bloat" in debian? |
| 16:28.36 | drybjed | Racqueteering: in short, yes |
| 16:28.37 | Warp4 | Racqueteering, "bloat" is relative in Linux |
| 16:28.43 | Warp4 | at least IMO |
| 16:28.57 | Warp4 | but i would have to agree with drybjed |
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| 16:29.23 | peterrooney | Racqueteering: ubuntu is loosely based on the version of debian called "testing", which is still being, well, tested. As in, known major issues. their installer is pretty slick, though. |
| 16:29.44 | drybjed | Racqueteering: Ubuntu (and Server as extension) can be seen as customized and streamlined Debian |
| 16:29.59 | drybjed | in Debian you have everyhing, Ubuntu picks parts for you |
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| 16:31.17 | Racqueteering | wow, alright.So does that mean that when you install debian you literally have more packages and programs installed than in ubuntu? Or am I being too literal? |
| 16:31.18 | lelo | Hi! I need suggestions to replace the filesharing aspect of a samba server for something in the cloud. What could you guys suggest? |
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| 16:31.50 | jeep | Racqueteering: you pick what you want |
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| 16:32.58 | Warp4 | lelo, that's a bad word :) |
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| 16:33.06 | Warp4 | "cloud" i mean :) |
| 16:33.21 | lelo | Warp4: not a bad word, just a buzz world with blunt meaning =D |
| 16:33.39 | Warp4 | IMO "cloud" is a word for windows users :) |
| 16:33.48 | Warp4 | but, i digress. |
| 16:34.04 | lelo | windows servers? lol man |
| 16:34.08 | lelo | not really |
| 16:34.16 | peterrooney | Racqueteering: too literal. |
| 16:34.21 | Warp4 | lelo, could always try skidrive or google docs |
| 16:34.33 | Warp4 | skydrive I mean |
| 16:34.45 | lelo | Warp4: I mean a filesharing service with different access levels for SMBs |
| 16:35.09 | lelo | open-source... |
| 16:35.20 | Warp4 | lelo, hmm dunno any of those |
| 16:35.29 | lelo | I just heard about ajaxplorer |
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| 16:35.36 | lelo | but I dont know how reliable it is and how good it is |
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| 16:35.56 | lelo | oh, Ajaxplorer is now called Pydio.... =O |
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| 16:44.07 | petn-randall | lelo: Maybe explain to us exactly what you're looking for. "Cloud" is a very general and broad buzz word term for "distributed computing", which can mean close to anything nowadays. |
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| 16:44.39 | petn-randall | lelo: Also, SMB is usually only used over a LAN, which kind of contradicts the "cloud" aspect you're suggesting. |
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| 16:45.22 | stmiller | smb can also mean small business |
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| 16:47.32 | stmiller | lelo http://owncloud.org/ |
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| 16:48.19 | lelo | stmiller: would owncloud be effective for a SMB? Meaning, is there support for layared access? :) I will check |
| 16:48.35 | stmiller | I don't know. |
| 16:48.58 | lelo | stmiller: it is still a good suggestion, though. Thank you :) I will check if it has what I need! ;) |
| 16:49.03 | [jasper] | hej guys, I must be doing something wrong here...I copied over my old config file for kernel making into the main directoryu |
| 16:49.06 | [jasper] | called it .config |
| 16:49.23 | [jasper] | changed 1 setting in the config...but when I run make deb-pkg...for some reason it keeps overwriting my .config file with oldconfig |
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| 16:50.25 | paxcoder | Here's something weird. About 35% of the space my home directory is supposed to take is unaccounted for. |
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| 16:50.42 | [jasper] | anyone who can help me with this? |
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| 16:51.32 | LurtzCZ | babilen: thank you, it solved the problem. |
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| 16:51.52 | paxcoder | I'm using a disk usage analyzer, and there's a gap in the graph. more than a third of it is missing |
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| 16:52.27 | paxcoder | The disk was running out of space so I took a look, and now I'm confused. |
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| 16:54.21 | paxcoder | [jasper], while I wait, what's your problem? |
| 16:54.43 | [jasper] | paxcoder, I copied my kernel config file to my linux-source directory.....named it .config |
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| 16:54.53 | [jasper] | then i opened the config file with nano....changed 1 settings.... |
| 16:55.17 | [jasper] | now I want to run make deb-pkg ...but for some reason that keeps overwriting the .config file |
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| 16:55.56 | [jasper] | by issueing scripts/kconfig/conf --silentoldconfig Kconfig |
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| 16:57.19 | paxcoder | [jasper], never did that, wouldn't know. sorry |
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| 17:05.37 | paxcoder | it's expanding |
| 17:05.59 | paxcoder | almost 100GB is unaccounted for now |
| 17:06.15 | paxcoder | help |
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| 17:06.47 | jelly-home | paxcoder: are you running your disk usage thingy as root? |
| 17:06.55 | paxcoder | no |
| 17:06.59 | jelly-home | well then |
| 17:07.01 | paxcoder | ok |
| 17:07.10 | [jasper] | can anybody tell me what it means when it says {m} in kernel make menuconfig? |
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| 17:07.13 | [jasper] | the {} |
| 17:07.20 | [jasper] | since I can't seem to disable the module |
| 17:07.43 | jelly-home | [jasper]: it's a dependency for some other option |
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| 17:08.06 | [jasper] | hmm, so I should disable all the others to disable this module? |
| 17:08.18 | jelly-home | and I do not remember how to find the reverse dependencies |
| 17:08.42 | crabman | Hello. How can I set up computer so that it doesn't dim display/sleep while video is playing in VLC? I use KDE. |
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| 17:10.08 | paxcoder | jelly-home, didn't help! |
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| 17:10.10 | [jasper] | this all seems to be connected jelly-home ...I found the dependencies...but some of em are build into the kernel...can't seem to disable them |
| 17:10.22 | paxcoder | the gap is now 100GB+ |
| 17:10.24 | [jasper] | and this kernel is giving me issues during boot..since acpi fails of it |
| 17:10.33 | paxcoder | i still can't see what it is (ran using gksu) |
| 17:10.34 | jelly-home | paxcoder: that's over 9000. |
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| 17:10.51 | jelly-home | paxcoder: how large is this fs in total? |
| 17:11.05 | paxcoder | umm.. |
| 17:11.42 | jelly-home | paxcoder: pastebin the outputs of "df" and, as root, "du -x /where/your/mountpoint|sort -n|tail -20" |
| 17:11.57 | jelly-home | that du command is going to take some time |
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| 17:12.48 | paxcoder | jelly pasting |
| 17:13.09 | jelly-home | no, paxcoder pasting |
| 17:13.47 | paxcoder | jelly-home, http://paste.debian.net/60195/ |
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| 17:14.11 | jelly-home | paxcoder: please put both commands into a single pastebin |
| 17:14.12 | paxcoder | jelly-home, you are funny i'm just a bit concerned, hope you can understand |
| 17:15.00 | paxcoder | jelly-home, i'd rather not post all of my *metadata*. |
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| 17:15.10 | paxcoder | oh sort tail, sec maybe i can do that |
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| 17:15.27 | paxcoder | cooking |
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| 17:20.36 | paxcoder | jelly-home, nothing's out of the ordinary there, sec |
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| 17:21.24 | rhizome | hi all, i'm looking for a little help figuring out what's happening with my disks. i have a couple drives that are detected in dmesg, but don't show up in fdisk -l |
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| 17:22.49 | paxcoder | jelly-home, PM |
| 17:23.15 | mumpitzel | rhizome: can you show us the dmesg output? did you run fdisk -l as root? do they show up in blkid? under /dev? |
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| 17:24.11 | rhizome | yes, all under root. blkid doesn't show them |
| 17:24.13 | paxcoder | jelly-home, almost 110 GB now |
| 17:24.36 | jelly-home | paxcoder: du total of "244039304 /home" and df Used blocks of "245240484" are both in 1KiB and match pretty closely, I don't see a problem |
| 17:25.00 | giuscri | I'm trying to learning some assembly code. I'm reading the book at (http://www.drpaulcarter.com/pcasm/#exampleCode) though many pieces of code are thought to run on a 32-bit system. |
| 17:25.23 | giuscri | I'm currently running a x86-64 version of Debian. |
| 17:25.33 | giuscri | What would you suggest me to fix that? |
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| 17:25.59 | rhizome | mumpitzel: they do have /dev entries |
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| 17:26.09 | rhizome | dmesg coming up |
| 17:27.26 | rhizome | mumpitzel: https://gist.github.com/rhizome/fa8364dac0046b85292d |
| 17:27.45 | rhizome | one may be a usb enc containing a drive know to be having problems. |
| 17:27.54 | rhizome | the other would be new probs |
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| 17:29.59 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 17:35.18 | nmschulte | Hi all. Is there anyway with XFCE to change the default X/xrandr configuration for multiple monitors? E.g. when I connect HDMI1 or VGA1, place the monitor to the right of LVDS1 and enlarge the buffer (side-by-side, no-clone mode)? |
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| 17:36.04 | nmschulte | Right now the default is "no-action" if attached while already inside of a session, and to "clone with pinning at upper left"? |
| 17:36.46 | nmschulte | ermm... "clone with pin at upper left" if attached before a sessoin. |
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| 17:38.13 | jelly-home | long story short, paxcoder had a 90GB .xsession-errors |
| 17:38.15 | rhizome | not sure i understand, but maybe #xfce could help |
| 17:40.35 | SuperNull | hey guys anyone got a sec to help troubleshoot high load.. nothing shows up crazy on top.. yet load average is at 13.. almost wondering if there is a hard drive failure here.. |
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| 17:41.01 | hatchetjack | no more root user in debian? Got to use sudo? |
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| 17:41.29 | benzrf | hi, is there a way to edit a package to remove a dependency? that is, the package's insistence on having that depend, obviously not the actual requirement for it |
| 17:41.43 | hatchetjack | benzrf: yes |
| 17:41.46 | benzrf | how? |
| 17:41.52 | hatchetjack | benzrf: dunno |
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| 17:42.12 | benzrf | well you're certainly not obnoxious at all |
| 17:42.51 | hatchetjack | benzrf: you asked a question, which I answered |
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| 17:43.10 | hatchetjack | benzrf: I've done it before but don't recollect exactly how |
| 17:43.38 | benzrf | :I |
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| 17:43.55 | hatchetjack | benzrf: hold on and let me google a bit. |
| 17:43.59 | hatchetjack | benzrf: what package and what depend? |
| 17:44.02 | benzrf | well, maybe there's an easier answer |
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| 17:44.20 | benzrf | I got a game from the Humble Bundle as a 64-bit deb; I'm on ubuntu saucy |
| 17:44.24 | hatchetjack | benzrf: all the debian sepcific stuff is in the package source under debian/ |
| 17:44.25 | benzrf | it wants ia32-libs |
| 17:44.35 | hatchetjack | benzrf: you've got to edit the control? file |
| 17:44.38 | hatchetjack | I think |
| 17:44.44 | benzrf | which I am led to believe is an older package that has been removed and it used to represent a set of 32bit libs |
| 17:44.55 | benzrf | I think I have those libs, but it insists on having that package... |
| 17:45.08 | hatchetjack | oh |
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| 17:46.20 | mumpitzel | benzrf: please ask in #ubuntu. we don't support it here |
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| 17:46.58 | benzrf | I know, it was a question about .debs |
| 17:47.03 | hatchetjack | but ubuntu IS debian |
| 17:47.06 | hatchetjack | :D |
| 17:47.06 | benzrf | and #ubuntu is termianlly unhelpful |
| 17:47.08 | benzrf | thanks anyway :I |
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| 17:51.37 | nmschulte | rhizome: I want to change the X configuration for when HDMI1 or VGA1 are connected (HDMI1 is the HDMI port, and VGA1 is the VGA port; LVDS1 is the laptop monitor, it's connected via the LVDS1 port). |
| 17:52.12 | nmschulte | Right now, the configuration is deterministic, but it's not apparent how to configure it, if at all. Further, the configuration you get depends on when you attached the monitor. |
| 17:52.25 | nmschulte | I want to know how to change that configuration, if possible. |
| 17:53.13 | chrisoprase | Hi |
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| 17:53.30 | nmschulte | I'm sure these issues can/should be resolved through X, so they're DE/WM agnostic, but it's possible XFCE has a solution to it as well if X doesn't provide the ability to configure it. |
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| 17:54.30 | passstab | is there a way to open a .pub file in debian? |
| 17:54.46 | chrisoprase | Since I've moved to debian there has been two things bugging me: the audio_bell doesn't work, neither <DEL> on gnome terminal |
| 17:54.56 | chrisoprase | Any tips on how to fix this? |
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| 18:04.38 | Cyis | passstab: well that would depend on the contents of the .pub file now wouldn't it? |
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| 18:06.26 | passstab | i don't know much about the format, looking into LO backports |
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| 18:07.11 | Cyis | passstab: well given that it's just a filename extension what is more deterministic is what created the file to tell if it can be opened |
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| 18:07.48 | passstab | oh, i would assume MS publisher, tho i'm not sure |
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| 18:11.03 | dio_ | any way to encrypt my home folder like Linux Mint? |
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| 18:12.17 | Cyis | passstab: if it's Micro$haft then best of luck... but .pub is used by other apps like SSH public keys, etc that aren't an issue |
| 18:12.44 | passstab | oh, thanks |
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| 18:13.37 | tkbx | I added Testing to my sources.list in addition to Stable, and it's now installing packages from testing. How can I make it install from Stable unless I use -t testing? |
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| 18:14.03 | passstab | tkbx, apt pinning |
| 18:14.17 | tkbx | ? |
| 18:14.22 | passstab | !tell |
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| 18:15.32 | tkbx | passstab, just set testing to a lower priority than stable in /etc/apt/preferences? |
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| 18:15.40 | Uranio | Cyis: hi, new kernl 3 installed and still not working network card :-/ |
| 18:15.56 | Uranio | apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') firmware-atheros |
| 18:16.03 | Uranio | just as sayd in the guide |
| 18:16.49 | Uranio | :-/ now without audio |
| 18:17.20 | Cyis | Uranio: well the firmware-atheros 0.39 BPO lists the ar5523 in it's change log... not having the device myself I can't really test |
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| 18:17.58 | passstab | tkbx, different ranges mean different things, you should read https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
| 18:18.02 | Uranio | :-/ |
| 18:18.10 | Uranio | Cyis: the ar5523 are inside the kernel now |
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| 18:18.28 | Uranio | but card still now working (and it work in windows with a lot of crap from CD) |
| 18:18.46 | Uranio | a friend just test it |
| 18:19.08 | Uranio | would be another mumbo-jumbo remaining for conjure before start up the card? |
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| 18:22.13 | Cyis | Uranio: but is it in the Debian kernel by default is the question... if it's in the firmware-atheros package then the answer to that would be no |
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| 18:23.30 | Uranio | ok, I guest there my card need another driver, diferent, not ar5523 |
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| 18:32.00 | rryoumaa | why is dist-upgrade necessary to merely upgrade this package? http://sprunge.us/WcIR |
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| 18:33.08 | jelly-home | because its dependencies have changed, rryoumaa |
| 18:33.42 | rryoumaa | you mean it used to depend on something else or something? |
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| 18:35.21 | jelly-home | exactly |
| 18:35.27 | Uranio | Cyis: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/zd1211rw/AddID |
| 18:35.31 | Uranio | check that ritual :D |
| 18:35.57 | rryoumaa | jelly-home: thanks |
| 18:36.48 | rryoumaa | i guess it's safe to just use dist-upgrade all the time then, as these changes don't seem to be anything i don't need |
| 18:38.09 | rryoumaa | if it looks odd at the prompt, then i will abort it |
| 18:38.20 | jelly-home | they're probably other mozilla bits anyway |
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| 18:42.39 | mns | anyone know of a simple, lightweight DNS server that I can use for serving my internal home network, rather than using BIND ? |
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| 18:43.09 | jelly-home | mns: pdnsd if it still exists |
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| 18:43.49 | jelly-home | or dnsmasq perhaps |
| 18:44.05 | mns | jelly-home: seems like it does exist in jessie. I'll try both. |
| 18:44.12 | mns | jelly-home: thanks |
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| 18:55.03 | DANtheBEASTman | if I successfully backport a package, should I submit it? |
| 18:55.25 | DANtheBEASTman | i'm pretty new to backporting and such, but i'm interested |
| 18:57.41 | mns | I can't think of a reson not to submit it |
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| 18:59.50 | DANtheBEASTman | I don't suppose checkinstall will suffice for a valid debian package..? |
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| 19:07.30 | martin-_- | how can i remove obsolet/unused packages |
| 19:07.59 | DANtheBEASTman | martin-_-: apt-get autoremove |
| 19:08.26 | DANtheBEASTman | you can also try deborphan |
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| 19:09.34 | DANtheBEASTman | but keep in mind deborphan may list packages you do use |
| 19:09.52 | martin-_- | thanks DANtheBEASTman |
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| 19:11.33 | acu | OK, so I have a hotspot wireless from T-mobile - I can tether it to linux machine - I want to connect that linux to the router and serve the internet through it - what do I need ? |
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| 19:17.35 | id-e | hola |
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| 19:18.56 | makoto | yo. quick installer question, at "configure the network" stage it's asked for a hostname and now it's after a domain name. what does this domian name bit actually do - if i was to put in a real domain name what would happen? |
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| 19:21.14 | Monotoko2 | not quite sure where to ask this... but it's running on our Debian paging server (been around since 1994...) so might as well ask here, the serial modem that we're using to page, could it be used to "dial in" to servers still? If any exist on the phone lines? |
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| 19:22.36 | makoto | Monotoko2: yes but don't expect great data rates- back when lines were fully analog you could do 56k but since theyre digital now data rates between modems will be slower |
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| 19:33.50 | threadlock | dmesg gave me what I needed |
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| 19:42.11 | oznt | does somebody here use google talk with debian jessie? |
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| 19:48.58 | Rug | Well I'm stuck. I have a gigabit internet connection, the ISP is promising me that I have full speed connection on our fiber, but iperf is maxing out at 212Mb/s (against another gigbit link). Any suggestions? |
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| 19:50.20 | curiousjohn | hello. :) i'm having trouble getting my IBM TrackPoint working correctly on my ThinkPad x61 under Debian Wheezy. Following this guide: http://techlek.wordpress.com/2011/04/01/enabling-trackpoint-scrolling-in-debian-wheezy/ but i'm getting this error from terminal: "Unable to connect to X server". Any clue what's going on here? |
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| 19:52.26 | curiousjohn | to clarify, when i run "root@ariel:/home/david# xinput set-int-prop "TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint" "Evdev Wheel Emulation" 8 1" i get back "Unable to connect to X server" |
| 19:53.59 | gusnan | curiousjohn: just guessing, but what if you try the same as non-root? |
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| 19:57.39 | curiousjohn | gusnan: same message |
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| 20:25.49 | jhutchins | . |
| 20:26.11 | jhutchins | Awful quiet in here. |
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| 20:46.31 | jhutchins | dpkg: anybody home? |
| 20:46.32 | dpkg | jhutchins: are you using Windows? |
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| 20:47.26 | mtn | jhutchins: there is no trouble in debian land |
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| 20:51.54 | GJdan | Can anyone think of any reasons a users settings don't remain between sessions? |
| 20:51.59 | GJdan | like, any of them |
| 20:52.21 | dondelelcaro | GJdan: which user settings? |
| 20:52.24 | Elemeno | Xsettings? |
| 20:52.56 | GJdan | Makeing firefox my default browser and fixing my monitor to use the correct resolution are the main two I've taken notice of |
| 20:53.07 | Elemeno | are you using -m when calling useradd? |
| 20:53.38 | GJdan | I did yes, and I clearly do have a home directory |
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| 20:55.10 | GJdan | and it looks like permissions are all site right |
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| 20:56.11 | Elemeno | maybe a dumb question: is it running in a VM? |
| 20:56.18 | GJdan | no |
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| 20:56.47 | GJdan | though it is the second user. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if I called the command wrong somehow. I don't remember how I called it anymore though |
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| 20:57.03 | GJdan | I only used ssh for a long time and only just started logging in to an xsession |
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| 20:58.22 | Elemeno | does it still happen if you only restart X? |
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| 20:59.23 | GJdan | good question. I'll try that |
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| 21:01.25 | MraMaria | anyone using synergys on a server with only needed files for the requested desktop environment? |
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| 21:07.32 | GJdan | Elemeno: okay had to do something. The firefox setting at least vanishes as soon as I close firefox. as for the monitor resolution. I'll restart x and see |
| 21:07.44 | GJdan | I doubt that X is the source of the whole problem though |
| 21:09.29 | jhutchins | GJdan: Sounds like permissions on a hidden file are wrong, or the file is corrupt and unwritable. |
| 21:09.30 | GJdan | though honestly I don't knwo this system too well since it wasn't me who built it :\ it feels a little rickety overall |
| 21:09.42 | jhutchins | GJdan: Firefox... Did you mean iceweasel? |
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| 21:10.44 | GJdan | I can't stand iceweasel.. heh, I just grabbed the 64bit version of linux firefox from mozilla. In which case I imagine that could be entirely something I missed, though I've never had problems with it before. |
| 21:10.53 | GJdan | its the monitor resolution that caught my attention |
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| 21:11.34 | passstab | GJdan, why don't you like iceweasel? |
| 21:12.08 | GJdan | I'm not sure if its improved at all recently, but I work in web dev, and iceweasels webstandards are/were a bit too behind |
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| 21:13.50 | passstab | GJdan, when did you last try it? |
| 21:14.20 | GJdan | its been a year or so at least. I suppose its about time to give it another chance |
| 21:14.24 | passstab | GJdan, http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
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| 21:14.59 | GJdan | I suppose I don't expect debian to have particularly up to date packages in general either |
| 21:15.46 | passstab | GJdan, that is why that mirror is separate |
| 21:16.13 | GJdan | aye okay, I'll grab that then |
| 21:16.16 | GJdan | thanks |
| 21:16.26 | passstab | GJdan, i have 24 on squeeze |
| 21:16.37 | passstab | np :) |
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| 21:22.56 | jhutchins | GJdan: So you installed third-party software on Debian using their notoriously buggy, sloppy installer, and it doesn't work? Imagine that. |
| 21:23.31 | GJdan | Aren't you a ray of sunshine? :) |
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| 21:24.26 | jhutchins | GJdan: Still sounds like an unwritable preference file to me. |
| 21:24.42 | GJdan | Yeah that's what I figure too, but I can't seem to find it |
| 21:24.53 | GJdan | tried just chmoding my whole homedir but that didn't fix it |
| 21:25.00 | jhutchins | GJdan: Did you say you tried an alternate user? |
| 21:25.20 | GJdan | actually I think grabbing firefox for linux from their repo just gives you a tar.bz or something that you unpack directly to /opt or whereever and it just works.. |
| 21:25.36 | GJdan | this was originally someone elses system. I added a user for myself with useradd |
| 21:25.51 | GJdan | I just ssh'd for a long time and noticed this when I started logging into recently |
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| 21:26.21 | jhutchins | GJdan: In the past their installer has notoriously change where it wrote certain file apparantly at random, so upgrading would leave fewmets scattered all over the filesystem, and there really wasn't any way to clean up after it. |
| 21:27.04 | jhutchins | GJdan: Just a guess that their build might put preferences in some place that on Debian doesn't exist or is unwritable, but I really doubt it., |
| 21:27.35 | GJdan | I thought it got put in .mozilla or .config but both those locations seem fine |
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| 21:28.04 | jhutchins | GJdan: Yeah, should be .mozilla |
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| 21:28.40 | jhutchins | GJdan: One of the advantages of using the Debian package is that more people in #debian are using the same exact package. |
| 21:28.48 | GJdan | true enough |
| 21:28.53 | GJdan | I'm installing it now |
| 21:29.24 | jhutchins | GJdan: So other than permissions, corrupt files or files that are unwritable - fsck? |
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| 21:30.46 | GJdan | suppose I'll try that |
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| 21:35.11 | tharkun | I |
| 21:35.27 | tharkun | Is oldstable still beeing mantained? |
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| 21:38.12 | bezaban | ,version kismet |
| 21:38.13 | judd | Package: kismet on i386 -- squeeze: 2008-05-R1-4.1+b1; jessie: 2013.03.R1b-1; sid: 2013.03.R1b-2 |
| 21:38.34 | bezaban | nothing for wheezy |
| 21:38.42 | bezaban | odd |
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| 21:55.49 | jhutchins | !why is kismet not in wheezy? |
| 21:55.50 | dpkg | jhutchins: what are you talking about? |
| 21:55.53 | little-tommy | ls |
| 21:55.55 | jhutchins | ,why is kismet not in wheezy? |
| 21:55.56 | judd | No package named 'is' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 21:56.03 | jhutchins | ,why kismet not in wheezy? |
| 21:56.04 | judd | No package named 'kismet' was found in wheezy/i386. |
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| 22:03.18 | eciv | is it possible to keep the gnome menu bar when using xmonad? |
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| 22:23.30 | aznblur | if I have a mount defined in /etc/fstab with a noauto option, but I still want it to be automounted on boot by user "foo", what's the best way of going about this? |
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| 22:23.54 | un214 | /etc/profile? |
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| 22:24.25 | ScottE | aznblur: autofs? |
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| 22:25.54 | ectospasm | aznblur: some filesystems will accept a user= option, see "man 8 mount" for details. |
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| 22:27.09 | un214 | as I recall user= option sets who is allowed to mount it |
| 22:27.21 | aznblur | un214: I'll have a look, cheers |
| 22:27.30 | aznblur | ScottE: I'd rather not install more software than is necessary |
| 22:27.38 | aznblur | ectospasm: thanks, i'll look into it |
| 22:27.46 | aznblur | it's an nfs mount |
| 22:28.10 | ScottE | aznblur: just throwing it out there an option that may or may not meet your needs. I find it works especially well for nfs though |
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| 22:28.26 | aznblur | ScottE: much appreciated mate |
| 22:28.30 | un214 | assuming nfsv3, then automount does the intended |
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| 22:28.58 | aznblur | un214: it is nfsv3, what do you mean by automount does the intended? |
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| 22:29.25 | un214 | automount and autofs both somehow mount the filesystem when it is first accessed |
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| 22:33.41 | aznblur | hmm it appears nfs does not have a user= option |
| 22:34.05 | aznblur | and from what i understand, /etc/profile requires you to login? |
| 22:34.25 | un214 | nfs does not have a user= option because that requires the server |
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| 22:34.47 | un214 | yes, /etc/profile requires you to log in. I couldn't find another meaning of "for user foo" |
| 22:34.50 | ectospasm | Does NFS even pay attention to user mounts? I can't remember. |
| 22:35.15 | un214 | user= is primarily implemented by the mount command ... |
| 22:35.34 | aznblur | well, i guess some context might be handy, i have a debian machine that runs several dropbox daemons (which sync onto an nfs mount) |
| 22:35.39 | ectospasm | I don't remember usernames or UIDs going into /etc/exports |
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| 22:35.54 | un214 | ectospasm: all_squash= |
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| 22:36.34 | ectospasm | well, yeah, won't that make *every* NFS mount be under that UID? |
| 22:36.44 | ectospasm | ...or can you set it on a per-mount basis? |
| 22:36.52 | un214 | per-mount per ip basis |
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| 22:38.23 | thoonai | good evening |
| 22:38.48 | thoonai | does someone knows a tutorial to set up a debian mirror with nginx? |
| 22:40.12 | aznblur | so i guess either i can twiddle with permissions and have root mount the nfs share, but let the foo user access it for the dropbox daemons? |
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| 22:40.25 | aznblur | or just get foo user to mount the nfs share itself |
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| 22:42.41 | aznblur | or am I going about this incorrectly |
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| 22:46.12 | ectospasm | thoonai: I set one up with apache2, lemme dig something up. |
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| 22:46.35 | thoonai | ectospasm: ok |
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| 22:46.59 | ectospasm | thoonai: https://www.google.com/search?q=debian+reprepro+nginx&oq=debian+reprepro&aqs=chrome.3.69i57j0l3j69i64.13011j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 |
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| 22:47.37 | thoonai | ectospasm: cool thanks |
| 22:47.46 | bing | hi. i made this software for updating license notices in source files. http://sv.gnu.org/p/licenseutils enjoy |
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| 22:51.43 | moijsad | since ompldr is down, is there a software system that replicates its functionality on a small home server with web interface to upload and stuff? |
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| 23:06.19 | thoonai | ectospasm: do I really need rerepro? |
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| 23:10.18 | SuperPhly | On a brand new install of Debian 7, what's the preferred way to not have Xwindows start on bootup? This is a server in a rack and I'd rather not have an entire X windows stack loaded up for no reason. |
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| 23:10.44 | un214 | edit /etc/inittab |
| 23:10.53 | thoonai | SuperPhly: do you need X for sure? |
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| 23:11.18 | thoonai | SuperPhly: If its not important you might consider removing it |
| 23:11.21 | SuperPhly | thoonai: i do NOT need X running. I will need it for vnc. |
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| 23:12.18 | un214 | correction, X is no longer started via inittab |
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| 23:13.35 | thoonai | SuperPhly: sorry for the misunderstanding |
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| 23:14.08 | thoonai | ectospasm: thanks, I'll take care of it tomorrow, if I ever wake up again ;) |
| 23:14.11 | SuperPhly | un214: do i just move the S symlink to a K symlink? |
| 23:14.12 | un214 | looking at my system I still think the official way is to change id:5:initdefault: line to id:3:initdefault: |
| 23:14.14 | SuperPhly | in rc2 |
| 23:14.30 | SuperPhly | oh wow, init5 is default in debian? |
| 23:14.30 | un214 | yeah moving the S symlink to the K symlink will do it |
| 23:15.00 | un214 | I have no idea what's default in debian but the old way is 2 = multuser, 5 = multiuser + X loaded |
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| 23:17.32 | Arrowmaster | try setting /etc/X11/default-display-manager to something line /bin/false |
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| 23:18.07 | Arrowmaster | thats basically the only way to do it without uninstalling gdm3/kdm/lightdm or whatever youve got |
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| 23:19.07 | Arrowmaster | apparently for gdm3 if you use the kernel option 'text' then gdm3 wont start |
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| 23:19.33 | GazZ | Arrowmaster: nice tip |
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| 23:21.10 | Arrowmaster | its up to each DMs init script to follow some sane standard to keep this organized |
| 23:21.31 | un214 | mv S.... K.... works for most cases |
| 23:21.32 | Jonuz | Was gnome-shell updated in wheezy 7.2? |
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| 23:21.59 | Arrowmaster | un214: those will be recreated next time insserv is run on a package upgrade |
| 23:22.42 | Arrowmaster | not just the DMs package but any package with init scripts |
| 23:22.54 | SuperPhly | looks like my inittab says runlevel 2 is default |
| 23:23.10 | un214 | which is why you run update-rc.d to remember your settings |
| 23:23.23 | un214 | what do you think the README file in /etc/rc?.d is for? |
| 23:23.32 | Jonuz | After that it has bugged, there is lot dots in square at top-panel and it looks stupid. If I take screencast/screenshto from it dots will not shown. |
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| 23:24.38 | Arrowmaster | un214: im 99.999% sure that file is wrong now |
| 23:25.04 | un214 | then somebody's head at debian needs to roll |
| 23:25.35 | un214 | every installed service needs an on-off switch at boot time |
| 23:25.42 | un214 | this is the standard way of doing it |
| 23:25.50 | Arrowmaster | actually hmm im not sure ive never tried renaming the S to K, i know people just delete them and they come back |
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| 23:27.08 | un214 | now that makes sense -- delete looks like damage |
| 23:27.14 | un214 | and the README says to rename |
| 23:28.02 | Arrowmaster | testing it now, it appears to work like the /etc/rc2.d/README says |
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| 23:28.38 | Arrowmaster | learn something new everyday |
| 23:29.58 | peterrooney | is usually amazed when a readme is accurate when it's needed |
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| 23:31.12 | Arrowmaster | as much good as insserv does, its created a lot of confusion on disabling initscripts |
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| 23:31.36 | sporadic_1 | Hi. How do I start the portmap service on a debian server? |
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| 23:38.47 | mumpitzel | sporadic_1: ls /etc/init.d/portmap* you can then start it with /etc/init.d/<portmap script> start |
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| 23:41.11 | sporadic_1 | thanks mumpitzel |
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| 23:58.18 | dashs | If I want to force a server to be NFS3 -- how? |
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