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| 00:21.17 | fishsponge | help!! My debian box now gets to the grub prompt and won't boot... how can I fix grub?? |
| 00:22.00 | ajoox | What happens when you reach grub? |
| 00:22.50 | fishsponge | when I reach grub it says "error: fd0 read error" "error: file not found" "Entering rescue mode..." "grub rescue> " |
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| 00:24.16 | Tylertwo | Hey, I'm trying to connect to wifi on my computer. I installed some firmware for my wireless card (ipw2200) and installed wicd, but when I run wicd it doesn't show any wireless networks. I did this following https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse and similar guides. Any ideas about why networks aren't showing up? |
| 00:24.21 | fishsponge | it has been working for ages, but it's on RAID 1 and I've had to replace the first drive. I then booted it up from sdb and it was fine, so I ran "grub-install /dev/sda" and "grub-install /dev/sdb", rebooted and it was fine. I then did it again and it's now not working! |
| 00:24.28 | fishsponge | ajoox: ^^ |
| 00:25.08 | ajoox | Just a sec looking it up |
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| 00:25.32 | ajoox | fishsponge, Take a look here, Im reading from it: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=65102 |
| 00:25.57 | fishsponge | ajoox: thanks... i will look now |
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| 00:26.00 | ajoox | Ok, so go to rescue more |
| 00:26.11 | ajoox | *mode, and np. Ill brb, doing some cooking |
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| 00:28.37 | ajoox | fishsponge, how is it going? |
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| 00:32.11 | fishsponge | ajoox: not going well so far... trying to figure out the rescue mode on the installation CD... |
| 00:32.41 | ajoox | Never used it before. Does it not give you a terminal? |
| 00:33.22 | fishsponge | it does give me a terminal... when I press Alt+F2... but that's not a terminal in the installed OS... so I'm struggling and slightly confused about what to do |
| 00:33.54 | fishsponge | i've gone into rescue mode and it prompts me for which device to use as root file system... it's a RAID1 array, so i'll have to setup a RAID array now... |
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| 00:34.33 | fishsponge | i've just selected sda1 and sdb1 as the root filesystem RAID array and it now presents me with /dev/md/0 and /dev/md127 |
| 00:34.47 | fishsponge | which one should I choose? I assume md/0 |
| 00:34.57 | ajoox | I'd guess its md/0 but I am unsure |
| 00:35.20 | fishsponge | i've selected md/0 and it now says I can execute a shell in /dev/md/0 |
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| 00:36.06 | fishsponge | should I do that and then run "grub-install /dev/sda" and "grub-install /dev/sdb" and then "update-grub" ?? |
| 00:36.07 | Jeudi | Anyone aware of an MP4 movie metagger package for Debian? All I can find are audio metataggers. |
| 00:36.51 | ajoox | Food is burning Ill be back soon. fishsponge I think so, I am unsure though. Ill be back soon, good luck. |
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| 00:54.01 | fishsponge | i'm back... so... can anyone help? |
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| 00:54.32 | ajoox | fishsponge, did that do anything? |
| 00:54.34 | fishsponge | i booted up to a debian CD, went into rescue mode ran "grub-install /dev/sda" and "grub-install /dev/sdb" and then "update-grub", but when I rebooted I got this: "error: fd0 read error" "error: file not found" "Entering rescue mode..." "grub rescue> " |
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| 00:54.41 | fishsponge | ajoox: i'm still struggling! |
| 00:54.44 | ajoox | Hmm |
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| 00:55.15 | fishsponge | i've setup the RAID array again and i'm in rescue mode but i've gone into a terminal inside /dev/md/0 |
| 00:55.27 | ajoox | fishsponge, Im looking for solutions online |
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| 00:55.37 | fishsponge | i have typed "grub-install /dev/sda" and it then says "Installation finished. No error reported.". |
| 00:55.47 | fishsponge | I then run update-grub and rebooted and I still get the grub prompt |
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| 00:57.13 | fishsponge | when i'm actually in the terminal I can see the RAID arrays rebuilding with cat /proc/mdstat |
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| 01:02.31 | fishsponge | ajoox: it's 01:00am over here now... i'm about to fall asleep, but this is frustrating as hell - my primary hard drive has died and i've replaced it and i'm struggling to get my 3 VMs to actually boot up at all! |
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| 01:03.23 | ajoox | fishsponge, Sorry that really sucks. I've never dealt with something like this before. Anyone else know what to do? |
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| 01:03.37 | fishsponge | ajoox: thanks for your help though |
| 01:03.47 | ajoox | Np, once again good luck |
| 01:03.48 | dvs | restore from backups |
| 01:04.14 | fishsponge | dvs: i do have backups of my data from the VMs, but not a backup of the VMDK files themselves... |
| 01:04.46 | fishsponge | all the VMs are soft-RAIDed, so on my second HDD I have all the data and the full OS. on my first HDD i have nothing currently other than black virtual hard drives... |
| 01:05.31 | fishsponge | right... i'm just going to bed... i'll have to spend all weekend fixing this |
| 01:05.34 | fishsponge | thanks for your help anyway... |
| 01:05.40 | ajoox | Gnight |
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| 01:36.17 | Asad3ainJalout | Hello guys, I am switching from kubuntu to debian. I have used arch and debian before. I am looking for something more stable than arch but more up to date than debian stable. My question is, for my only laptop which i depend on, but i can fix small minor issues here and there, for school, which is better, testing or unstable? What is the difference between the two? It was a little unclear in a the 2 blogs i |
| 01:36.19 | Asad3ainJalout | checked out. |
| 01:37.37 | Asad3ainJalout | actually I should have waited 5 minutes to ask you guys, I think I will go with testing. :) For any of you using testing, how bleeding edge is it compared to arch? |
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| 03:11.20 | chalcedony | i tried to do update & upgrade with debian squeeze - and got an error |
| 03:11.46 | chalcedony | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 03:11.46 | chalcedony | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:11.57 | chalcedony | what do i need to do? |
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| 03:31.33 | jeetpei | Hi All |
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| 03:33.35 | jeetpei | we built a debian package for wheezy .. but i see when we try to install older version over newer version of package .. dpkg does not check version and install older over newer .. so basicly i need that how can i check version and abort install if already newer package |
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| 05:33.06 | bbtech_ | Can anyone point me to a good desktop wifi card? I was told to use intel but they are all mini pcie. |
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| 05:35.19 | emss | bbtech_ one with linux support :) |
| 05:35.50 | bbtech_ | emss: yes, but some companies definition of "linux support" is better than others |
| 05:36.14 | emss | bbtech_ nah see what the kernel actually supports |
| 05:36.45 | bbtech_ | emss: how? |
| 05:39.54 | bbtech_ | looks like an intel for the desktop does exist |
| 05:40.00 | bbtech_ | just had trouble finding it |
| 05:40.01 | bbtech_ | http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Centrino-Advanced-Brackets-62205ANHMWDTX1/dp/B007ZWL4A6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383370662&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+centrino+advanced-n+desktop |
| 05:41.31 | emss | bbtech_ http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Devices |
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| 05:42.46 | bbtech_ | emss: looks like they have different drives? which one is the best? |
| 05:43.11 | emss | no idea |
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| 05:43.43 | bbtech_ | looks like it is ath9k or ath5k |
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| 05:43.55 | emss | i think atheros is very well supported |
| 05:43.59 | emss | but no idea really |
| 05:44.11 | emss | no first hand experience |
| 05:45.21 | bbtech_ | in that case, I think I'll go with the intel |
| 05:45.27 | bbtech_ | I haven't heard any complaints with it |
| 05:45.53 | emss | maybe try checking the kismet site/project they should have something |
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| 05:47.17 | emss | bbtech_ i think if you can avoid closed firmware the better for support probably |
| 05:47.42 | bbtech_ | but I don't want support, I want it to just work with no support :-) |
| 05:47.54 | emss | this is what i mean :) |
| 05:48.14 | emss | better kernel support for cards that do not require closed firmware |
| 05:48.19 | emss | maybe |
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| 06:04.55 | tomatosalad | So, uh, I successfully installed debian on a MacBook Pro, some of the instructions were out of date, it should be noted that the 8,1 MacBook Pro does not need the flash drive with the iso written to it, you *do* need to have eth0 connected, and there's no need to sync with MBR |
| 06:05.09 | tomatosalad | rEFIned, which has replaced rEFIt, doesn't need syncs |
| 06:05.21 | tomatosalad | it can do vmlinux and all that, and creates prompts to boot right at the screen |
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| 06:07.03 | mumpitze1 | why would you need eth0? |
| 06:07.07 | mumpitze1 | and how's the wlan? |
| 06:07.40 | tomatosalad | haven't tried wlan yet. eth0...it refused to continue without a network interface and it wanted nonfree stuff. |
| 06:07.50 | tomatosalad | plugging the stupid thing in solved it |
| 06:08.54 | tomatosalad | I need to get my irssi reconfigged and such |
| 06:09.00 | tomatosalad | and, uh, install cinnamon |
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| 06:09.22 | tomatosalad | I think I'll make a WM a priority |
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| 06:12.31 | tomatosalad | irssi looks so odd without my theme |
| 06:13.54 | syeekick | i accidentally opened deluge as root ... forgot to logout |
| 06:14.12 | syeekick | what methods should i do to ensure my system just didn't get raped |
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| 06:16.31 | shifty`` | any tips/tricks to locating topics in manpages? Let's say I want to find out about the "system" command in "man perlfunc" - the info is about 7000 lines in. Now I can search for a regex "^\s+system" but I'll likely have to repeat that multiple times and the regex itself is a bit of a finger twister. Does anybody else have a trick to share searching the haystack that is a manpage? |
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| 06:20.37 | tomatosalad | hm, what's all this cinnamon business about broken packages, anybody dealt with this before? |
| 06:21.28 | RayzrShrp | is irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net the same #debian channel? |
| 06:21.58 | emss | no |
| 06:22.07 | emss | different networks |
| 06:22.21 | RayzrShrp | so is oftc or freenode the offical one? |
| 06:23.31 | tomatosalad | nvm, fixed it |
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| 06:27.55 | gkscal | hello, how can i change my resolution to 24bit on my verry old laptop? |
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| 06:28.08 | gkscal | lcpi says: VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. VT8636A [ProSavage KN133] AGP4X VGA Controller (TwisterK) (rev 01) |
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| 06:33.21 | azar | Does anyone know about this error: "insserv: warning: script 'autotest' missing LSB tags and overrides"? what it is for?? |
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| 06:36.48 | magyar | hi, I can't seem to get virtual box running on my system. I have installed the kernel headers, but dkms is not building any modules for the running kernel? |
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| 06:40.36 | mumpitze1 | magyar: uname -a;dpkg -l |grep linux-header |
| 06:41.09 | mumpitze1 | !tell azar about lsb tags |
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| 06:42.35 | magyar | mumpitze1: http://pastebin.ca/2473101 |
| 06:43.10 | slikts | why are there no postgresql-9 packages in squeeze |
| 06:43.36 | slikts | 8.4 is supposed to be obsolete |
| 06:43.44 | tomatosalad | ok, I'm clearly missing something here. apt-get install cinnamon installed a bunch of stuff but I can't startx |
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| 06:44.21 | horst2 | x-org-common ? |
| 06:44.38 | tomatosalad | uh |
| 06:44.45 | tomatosalad | is that a package? because it allegedly doesn't exist |
| 06:45.19 | mumpitze1 | tomatosalad: install xorg |
| 06:45.29 | tomatosalad | oh, derp |
| 06:45.30 | mumpitze1 | you can install X clients without an X server |
| 06:45.37 | tomatosalad | ah. |
| 06:45.42 | tomatosalad | why aren't they dependencies? |
| 06:45.50 | tomatosalad | or, it one |
| 06:46.02 | mumpitze1 | magyar: and what is the error when you try and compile the vbox module? |
| 06:46.18 | mumpitze1 | tomatosalad: it's not cause you don't need a X server to run X clients |
| 06:46.48 | emss | gkscal does the X driver support it? |
| 06:46.53 | magyar | mumpitze1: the dkms is not even trying to compile |
| 06:47.15 | gkscal | i think so |
| 06:47.17 | mumpitze1 | there is an output |
| 06:47.34 | gkscal | how can i find out? |
| 06:47.44 | tomatosalad | whoa, this is...not the cinnamon I'm used to |
| 06:47.47 | tomatosalad | this looks like GNOME |
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| 06:48.06 | tomatosalad | ...it *is* GNOME |
| 06:48.45 | mumpitze1 | ,v cinnamon |
| 06:48.46 | judd | Package: cinnamon on i386 -- sid: 1.7.4-2.2+b1 |
| 06:49.21 | tomatosalad | yeah, it installed fine, but this is clearly GNOME |
| 06:50.17 | mumpitze1 | are you actually running cinnamon? tho, isn't the point of it that it's gnome? |
| 06:50.18 | emss | gkscal read the man page? |
| 06:50.29 | emss | what driver is it using? |
| 06:51.04 | tomatosalad | mumpitze1: uh, well, I installed cinnamon, then xorg, and then I did startx and this is GNOME shell. no cinnamon interface. |
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| 06:51.25 | mumpitze1 | tomatosalad: dpkg -l |grep gnome |
| 06:51.35 | mumpitze1 | and check your default windowmanager too |
| 06:52.04 | tomatosalad | how do I do the latter? |
| 06:52.06 | emss | gkscal xdpyinfo | less |
| 06:53.16 | mumpitze1 | q'n'd: ls -al /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager |
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| 06:53.43 | tomatosalad | metacity |
| 06:54.51 | gkscal | how can i find out, which driver is used? which command i have to use? |
| 06:55.05 | mumpitze1 | gkscal: glxinfo |
| 06:55.12 | mumpitze1 | and the driver that is used is savage |
| 06:55.24 | mumpitze1 | http://www.x.org/archive/X11R6.8.0/doc/savage.4.html |
| 06:56.43 | tomatosalad | also, wlan |
| 06:56.52 | tomatosalad | how do I get that up and running? I'd like to move out of the living room :P |
| 06:57.05 | gkscal | glxinfo says direct rendering : yes |
| 06:58.09 | mumpitze1 | tomatosalad: lspci -nn to tell us which chip you have |
| 06:58.20 | mumpitze1 | apple uses broadcom, and broadcom is evil and shit besides |
| 06:58.34 | mumpitze1 | gkscal: that's not what you want to know in this case |
| 06:59.02 | emss | `xdpyinfo' will tell you |
| 06:59.19 | gkscal | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: S3 Inc. VT8636A [ProSavage KN133] AGP4X VGA Controller (TwisterK) [5333:8d02] (rev 01) |
| 06:59.51 | tomatosalad | BCM4331 |
| 07:00.42 | mumpitze1 | !tell tomatosalad about bcm4331 |
| 07:00.59 | tomatosalad | phroo, ok |
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| 07:04.10 | gkscal | i'm studying the xdpyinfo command, but its not helpful (for me) |
| 07:04.36 | emss | xdpyinfo | less then type /depth |
| 07:05.02 | mumpitze1 | pastebin the output gkscal |
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| 07:23.54 | gkscal | i don't know if pastebin submit regularly |
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| 07:33.26 | azar | mumpitze1: thx alot. what about python files which exist in /etc/init.d/ directory, should they also have these LSB tags? |
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| 07:53.17 | tete_ | hi, i have wheezy running with apache 2.2 but i really would love to use 2.4 (pfs reasons). can someone tell me why this command does not work: aptitude -t wheezy-backports install apache2 |
| 07:53.26 | tete_ | i have of course the backports in my sources |
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| 07:59.41 | tete_ | everbodys sleeping? ;) |
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| 08:01.03 | mumpitze1 | ,v apache2 |
| 08:01.03 | judd | Package: apache2 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; wheezy: 2.2.22-13; jessie: 2.4.6-3; sid: 2.4.6-3 |
| 08:01.14 | mumpitze1 | tete_: as you can see there is no apache 2.4 backport |
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| 08:01.50 | tete_ | hm ok then i thought wrong... i have read that there should be a backport so i thought its in the repo backport |
| 08:01.55 | tete_ | in that case its probably in experimental |
| 08:01.58 | tete_ | thanks for that information |
| 08:02.10 | mumpitze1 | there is none in experimental either |
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| 08:02.23 | mumpitze1 | read what judd wrote above. that's all there is |
| 08:02.31 | tete_ | ah ok |
| 08:02.31 | fleeky_ | speaking of this |
| 08:02.48 | fleeky_ | i was just trying to figure out how to upgrade my squeeze apache2 to 2.4 |
| 08:02.51 | tete_ | so i have to go with jessie, is this a repository? |
| 08:02.54 | fleeky_ | was going to do it from source |
| 08:03.15 | fleeky_ | just wondering if installing over the existing apache2 will break it (probably) and if it does how to avoid that |
| 08:03.15 | mumpitze1 | jessie is current debian testing. not really suited for a server. /msg dpkg testing |
| 08:03.21 | tete_ | hm ok would also another solution compile it in virtualbox and then go with the deb to my server but ... i did not want to do that |
| 08:03.25 | mumpitze1 | !tell fleeky_ about ssb |
| 08:03.26 | tete_ | yes fleeky_ it will break |
| 08:03.30 | mumpitze1 | fleeky_: and upgrade to debian stable |
| 08:03.45 | fleeky_ | cant upgrade the box for a few months since i am not next to it |
| 08:03.50 | tete_ | mumpitze1, its only my private server, so its not that critical :) |
| 08:03.53 | mumpitze1 | tete_: you could run a chroot for it, not a virtualbox |
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| 08:04.25 | tete_ | hm ok... so i cant use the jessie package in wheezy? |
| 08:04.32 | mumpitze1 | no |
| 08:05.01 | mumpitze1 | you might be able to backport it yourself. but installing straght jessie packages to wheezy will break your debian, badly |
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| 08:05.23 | tete_ | ok |
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| 08:20.58 | bullgard4 | Is a file having the extension .dmg totally unusable for Debian? Wikipedia: "= a common disk image file format (used by Apple Macintosh)." |
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| 08:21.13 | fleeky_ | is it just me or is searching google for questions regarding linux getting worse and worse |
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| 08:23.00 | bullgard4 | fleeky_: Google is trying to serve more and more people not learned in the trade. - I have noticed a change of their center of attention during recent years. But in the sum it has not become worse and worse. |
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| 08:25.01 | mumpitze1 | bullgard4: https://www.google.de/search?q=mount+dmg+linux |
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| 08:33.08 | bullgard4 | mumpitze1: I probably need installing some HFS drivers in Wheezy. -- Thank you for your help. |
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| 08:36.13 | mumpitze1 | you will need to modprobe a module, yes |
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| 09:11.44 | luichi | hello how can i know what device is /sys/class/phy0-led? i changed the brightness to the max value but nothing happens |
| 09:12.13 | EmleyMoor | luichi: What exact hardware are you usingL |
| 09:12.14 | EmleyMoor | ? |
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| 09:12.37 | luichi | EmleyMoor: i have a lenovo n200 300 |
| 09:13.29 | EmleyMoor | luichi: Are you sure you're using the correct graphics drivers? Some Lenovo machines can end up with non-working brightness adjustment if you use the wrong one. |
| 09:13.59 | luichi | EmleyMoor: i don't know if are the correct ones. i'm using the defaults |
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| 09:14.31 | EmleyMoor | luichi: Chances are, it's not the right driver then... hold on... |
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| 09:15.12 | EmleyMoor | luichi: pastebin the output of lspci |
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| 09:16.07 | luichi | EmleyMoor: http://pastebin.com/rV9SEnUd |
| 09:16.36 | EmleyMoor | Actually, lspci -nn would be even better... |
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| 09:22.10 | luichi | EmleyMoor: ok, i modified it http://pastebin.com/index/rV9SEnUd |
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| 09:22.40 | winterss | hi calbasi |
| 09:22.57 | EmleyMoor | luichi: No... lspci -nn is what I'll actually need, if I don't find you an answer without it...p |
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| 09:23.05 | winterss | hi emley |
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| 09:23.13 | winterss | hi smica |
| 09:23.30 | luichi | EmleyMoor: yes i understanded you and i renewed the pastebin |
| 09:24.35 | EmleyMoor | luichi: Except that you didn't... the extras the -nn gives are absent. |
| 09:25.33 | luichi | EmleyMoor: i tried the command another time and it gives me the results i posted in the second version |
| 09:26.25 | EmleyMoor | Can you point me DIRECTLY to the second version? |
| 09:27.18 | EmleyMoor | It loks like you still missed the -nn off from where I'm sitting |
| 09:27.46 | EmleyMoor | luichi: Your problem is not what I thought anyway... |
| 09:27.59 | EmleyMoor | http://www.hannay.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38&Itemid=39 |
| 09:28.31 | EmleyMoor | That's not very helpful but it is an indication of success being possible at least. |
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| 09:29.31 | EmleyMoor | Regrettably most of the guides on that model are for the NVidia graphics version |
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| 09:31.55 | luichi | EmleyMoor: but why this website? |
| 09:32.25 | EmleyMoor | Because that's the only reference I've found to an installation on your model of laptop. |
| 09:33.40 | EmleyMoor | There may be more, hold on... |
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| 09:36.17 | EmleyMoor | No, found nothing else covering that particular variant |
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| 09:39.33 | EmleyMoor | http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Lenovo/3000+N200+0769EAG may be helpful... |
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| 09:39.55 | SirLagz | I have a Lenovo 3000 N200 |
| 09:40.19 | EmleyMoor | SirLagz: Yes... but Intel or NVidia graphics? |
| 09:40.20 | SirLagz | Different model to that though... |
| 09:40.23 | SirLagz | Intel |
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| 09:40.58 | luichi | EmleyMoor: but i can find what is phyo there? |
| 09:41.06 | luichi | EmleyMoor: normally phy what is? |
| 09:41.08 | EmleyMoor | SirLagz: Given the full type number, I might be able to find an appropriate list |
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| 09:41.32 | SirLagz | 0687-A31 |
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| 09:41.47 | EmleyMoor | luichi: "phy" means "physical"... not very helpful |
| 09:41.54 | SirLagz | anyone had any issues with X not recognising a USB mouse/keyboard until it gets unplugged and plugged back in ? |
| 09:41.54 | luichi | EmleyMoor: a ok |
| 09:42.06 | luichi | EmleyMoor: and what i can do with that site? |
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| 09:43.24 | EmleyMoor | luichi: That site contains a lot of listings of various laptops - find the most appropriate one for you and it will give you hints as to what drivers the various bits of hardware need, and whether it's reckoned to work in Debian. |
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| 09:44.31 | EmleyMoor | SirLagz: No list there specific to your model... |
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| 09:44.58 | luichi | EmleyMoor: as i see all works (that is my model) but another question if a device doesn't appear in /sys/class/leds i cant control leds? |
| 09:45.30 | luichi | EmleyMoor: because in windows i can control wifi led and in linux i cant find nothing |
| 09:45.50 | EmleyMoor | luichi: You're asking me specifics of something I've not seen... is the WiFi working? |
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| 09:46.14 | luichi | EmleyMoor: wifi and his led are working |
| 09:46.34 | luichi | EmleyMoor: but i want to power off wifi led |
| 09:46.43 | EmleyMoor | luichi: But the key to turn it off isn't? Is that what you are saying? Or just the LED? |
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| 09:47.29 | luichi | there is a button but turnns off the bluetooth led too. in windows in device manager i've been able to turn wifi led off |
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| 09:48.01 | EmleyMoor | luichi: But is it turning the WiFI and/or Bluetooth off, or just their LEDs, leaving them on? |
| 09:48.32 | luichi | EmleyMoor: the leds and themselfs |
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| 09:49.15 | EmleyMoor | luichi: That's not really an answer. Are you looking for a way to have, say, WiFI ON but with the LED OFF? |
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| 09:49.49 | luichi | EmleyMoor: bluetooth off and led off |
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| 09:50.03 | luichi | EmleyMoor: the same with wifi |
| 09:50.18 | luichi | EmleyMoor: if i turn off bluetooth i think the led will be turned off no? |
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| 09:50.41 | EmleyMoor | So you are not looking to have them ON with the LED OFF? So it's the controllers, not the LEDs, you want to turn on and off? |
| 09:51.28 | maxiaojun | why libqt4-core is just some doc rather than some libraries? |
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| 09:53.10 | maxiaojun | but libqt4-network contains real libraries |
| 09:54.08 | luichi | EmleyMoor: modprobe -r bluetooth? |
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| 09:54.32 | EmleyMoor | luichi: Er... no, that probably won't help you |
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| 09:55.07 | EmleyMoor | This is not a problem with the Bluetooth, or the WiFi, or their LEDs. This is a problem with the hotkeys. I don't know how to solve it for you. |
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| 10:38.47 | forcer | Hi! I inherited an "old and crufty" server and I'm trying to clean it up a bit. First I'm working on the package list. I have a list of packages that should be installed - what's the best way to ensure that those and their dependencies are installed, but nothing else? Or, how do I get a list of "superfluous" packages? |
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| 10:41.10 | wintix_ | forcer: apt-get autoremove or the aptitude equivalent |
| 10:42.22 | wintix_ | You might want to read the manpage to make sure it does what you want, though. |
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| 10:42.55 | forcer | wintix_: How do I mark a package as "unused" for the purpose of autoremove? |
| 10:42.58 | luichi_ | how can i avoid networkmanager enable wifi at startup? |
| 10:43.03 | mumpitze1 | forcer: forcer just redo the server |
| 10:43.13 | forcer | mumpitze1: Not an option, I'm afraid |
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| 10:43.28 | Roenie | i don't think wintix_ interpreted the question "correctly" |
| 10:43.31 | mumpitze1 | you won't get rid of all the cruft |
| 10:43.44 | forcer | mumpitze1: Reducing it to a minimum is sufficient. :-) |
| 10:43.59 | wintix_ | Roenie: What is your take on the question? |
| 10:44.21 | Roenie | sounded to me like package list A is installed, he wants package list B |
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| 10:44.30 | mumpitze1 | wintix: autoremove won't do what forcer asked. |
| 10:44.50 | Roenie | all autoremove does is remove orphaned dependencies |
| 10:45.12 | wintix | I got the impression that that's what he wants. |
| 10:45.16 | mumpitze1 | forcer: do a VM in where you install the packages you want. then you know what needs to be installed, you have a list. anything not on that list you can remove |
| 10:45.26 | mumpitze1 | wintix: your impression is wrong |
| 10:45.44 | forcer | mumpitze1: Hm. That might work. |
| 10:46.21 | forcer | Well, I do not know how autoremove decides whether a package is "unused". If I can manually mark packages as "used", it would work - can I? |
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| 10:46.42 | Roenie | why install a vm when you can just install directly? |
| 10:46.52 | Roenie | just seems like extra work |
| 10:47.48 | mumpitze1 | Roenie: he wanta a list of packages he can remove on his server. these packages are already installed, he doesn't want to install anything but UNinstall |
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| 10:48.07 | mumpitze1 | he just doesn't know what he can uninstall. that's what he needs to find out |
| 10:48.25 | wintix | forcer: autoremove removes orphaned dependencies, as Roenie correctly stated. It will essentially get rid of packages that were auto-installed at some point and are no longer referenced by anything. It won't remove "unused" packages. |
| 10:48.27 | Roenie | forcer, autoremove's purpose is to check for packages that used to be dependencies for an installed package that has later been removed, orphaning" |
| 10:48.36 | Roenie | the dependency |
| 10:49.06 | forcer | wintix: That does not seem to be the case. autoremove does not propose the removal of any packages. The documentation indicates that packages are somehow marked "used". |
| 10:49.12 | forcer | Apparently, apt-mark does that. |
| 10:49.16 | SOUL_OF_R00T | nice morning great guys ! |
| 10:49.21 | Roenie | and that also tells you something about how ineffective it can be to remove packages and expect all dependencies to be removed along with that |
| 10:49.50 | Roenie | it just does not happen in practise :/ |
| 10:50.49 | wintix | forcer: in essence Roenie is correct. recreate the server in a vm or on bare metal to see what packages you actually need. you can toy around with that vm, break it, restore from snapshot, etc without endangering your production server. |
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| 10:52.42 | forcer | Yeah, I already did a big cleanup of the server using configuration management tested on a VM. Totally didn't think of checking the package list then. :-D |
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| 10:55.24 | forcer | This seems to work with autoremove to some extent, too: dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/{print $2}' | xargs apt-mark markauto ; xargs apt-mark unmarkauto < cat packages.txt |
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| 11:04.34 | piotrek86 | hi all |
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| 11:04.50 | piotrek86 | i have a question for you |
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| 11:05.45 | piotrek86 | how set an old video card to display image on full screen not in little window in the middle |
| 11:05.53 | piotrek86 | under debian |
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| 11:07.03 | damo22 | i have a distro based on debian but it uses the official debian repo for packages, some of the packages are from squeeze and some from wheezy, should it be okay to upgrade to wheezy proper? |
| 11:07.27 | forcer | wintix: Thanks for hint about autoremove. Worked nicely :-) |
| 11:07.47 | damo22 | i think i broke my system, i need to upgrade all my packages to wheezy |
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| 11:08.25 | piotrek86 | i mean everything working good except graphic size it should be on full size of screen without black frame around |
| 11:08.27 | Roenie | then what do you have to lose? |
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| 11:09.13 | damo22 | im trying to figure out if its less downloads to install a fresh wheezy or to do an upgrade |
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| 11:09.43 | piotrek86 | have even anyone trident videoaccelerator cyberblade xp while using debian or other linux? |
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| 11:11.11 | wintix | damo22: if you are on a half broken debian-based system, you should do a fresh install rather than an update to debian. you are in uncharted waters and this channel will only support debian, not debian-based. |
| 11:12.01 | damo22 | wintix: can i use debootstrap to install it, and then grab new packages? |
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| 11:12.54 | damo22 | wintix: or should i use a cd |
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| 11:14.29 | wintix | damo22: personally i like netinstall cds but depending on your experience debootstrap is of course also an option. |
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| 11:15.35 | mumpitze1 | piotrek86: depends on the videocard and the monitor. what resolution does the monitor do? |
| 11:15.47 | damo22 | wintix: i am really sick of installing from the internet all the time, i need a local full mirror of the repo :P |
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| 11:16.41 | mumpitze1 | demfc: no you don't |
| 11:17.08 | mumpitze1 | damo22: get DVD1 at most |
| 11:17.19 | damo22 | hmm maybe i will |
| 11:17.25 | piotrek86 | mumpitze1, video card is trident and only 800x600 i have to choice |
| 11:17.33 | wintix | damo22: debian has a vast number of mirrors, just use a netinstall cd, pick a close mirro one and you will be fine without the hassle of maintaining a complete mirror on your own. :) |
| 11:17.40 | mumpitze1 | piotrek86: that's not what I asked |
| 11:18.01 | wintix | damo22: (assuming you're on a broad band internet connection) |
| 11:18.05 | damo22 | for some reason all the debian mirrors i tried are very slow even though i have 20Mbit connection |
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| 11:18.26 | damo22 | i am in australia |
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| 11:18.41 | damo22 | what happened to that console app called mirror-select? |
| 11:18.47 | piotrek86 | o sorry monitor can display 1280x760 or higher |
| 11:19.11 | wintix | damo22: http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ should give you reasonably good performance. |
| 11:19.18 | piotrek86 | but for now i can't set display to full screen |
| 11:19.30 | damo22 | wintix: i am using that, i get 100kB/sec max |
| 11:19.36 | piotrek86 | i have only small window in the middel of screen |
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| 11:20.12 | mumpitze1 | piotrek86: what is the output of xrandr? |
| 11:20.16 | wintix | damo22: http://www.debian.org/mirror/list - There's more Australia based mirrors, maybe one of those works well for you. |
| 11:20.37 | mumpitze1 | !tell damo22 about wheezy sources.list |
| 11:20.54 | mumpitze1 | damo22: if you use that, a mirror near you is automatically chosed (via DNS) |
| 11:21.44 | damo22 | mumpitze1: does it choose the fastest one automatically? |
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| 11:22.12 | mumpitze1 | damo22: it's supposed to, yes |
| 11:22.21 | mumpitze1 | !tell piotrek86 about PM |
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| 11:23.44 | piotrek86 | mumpitze1, can on pm? |
| 11:23.55 | mumpitze1 | please keep it in channel |
| 11:24.19 | mumpitze1 | and xrandr should be installed by default. if not it's in x11-xserver-utils |
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| 11:25.31 | piotrek86 | xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default |
| 11:25.31 | piotrek86 | Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 800 x 600, maximum 800 x 600 |
| 11:25.31 | piotrek86 | default connected 800x600+0+0 0mm x 0mm |
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| 11:29.28 | wintix | !tell piotrek86 about pastebin |
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| 11:30.04 | piotrek86 | ok ok i forgot abou this |
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| 11:35.12 | mumpitze1 | piotrek86: according to xrandr your monitor can only display 800x600. what laptop is this? |
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| 11:36.24 | nkuttler | piotrek86: paste your entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log (pastebin) |
| 11:36.57 | piotrek86 | it's toshiba satellite pro 4600 |
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| 11:37.47 | evanton | hello, I am looking for a mirage (it's a GUI image viewer) replacement for being able to view images without running X. requirements: has to be able to display at least jpg, png, bmp and animated gifs (via framebuffer perhaps?). anything in the debian repo that can do that? |
| 11:37.50 | nkuttler | piotrek86: usually it's a good idea to search for <laptop> debian install |
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| 11:39.50 | shingouz | evanton: try something called fbi. not the agency. |
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| 11:43.04 | klys | if debian differentiates between the kernel with CONFIG_EXPERT and the kernel without it as to what can be a debian kernel; I think that |
| 11:43.14 | klys | 's a pile of FUD, |
| 11:46.03 | babilen | klys: wut? |
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| 11:50.35 | abrotman | babilen: you missed an 'lol' |
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| 11:51.11 | evanton | shingouz: ok, I'd do some searches for that keyword to learn more. thank you |
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| 11:52.12 | evanton | i assume it must be fbi as in "frame buffer image" or something like that |
| 11:52.51 | shingouz | evanton: you are absolutely correct |
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| 11:55.28 | klys | babilen, abrotman, just letting you know what I think, |
| 11:55.40 | klys | that's all. |
| 11:55.53 | nkuttler | klys: this is a support channel, if you want to chat #debian-offtopic |
| 11:56.13 | klys | you were here, |
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| 11:59.08 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Guest90611 about root |
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| 12:01.44 | rccc | hello |
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| 12:02.41 | rccc | always getting this error when using flash : Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: Ne peut ouvrir le fichier d'objet partagé: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type |
| 12:02.42 | rccc | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.48 | rccc | wheezy |
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| 12:03.21 | rccc | libvdpau_nvidia.so is installed |
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| 12:03.46 | evanton | any chance you have a bad sector right there? |
| 12:03.48 | rccc | shocwave flash plugin always crashed |
| 12:04.10 | rccc | flashplugin-non free is installed |
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| 12:07.44 | evanton | shingouz: fbi works fine for jpg files, doesn't play animated gifs |
| 12:08.16 | shingouz | ok |
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| 12:09.11 | kardan | rccc: is see the same error with firefox on ubuntu |
| 12:09.25 | abrotman | yeah, cause that's related |
| 12:09.30 | abrotman | rccc: amd64? i386? |
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| 12:10.06 | chalcedony | i tried to do update & upgrade with debian squeeze - and got an error - WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! - libsqlite3-0 libnspr4-0d libnspr4 thunderbird-l10n-ar - Install these packages without verification [y/N]? |
| 12:10.26 | chalcedony | i've been reading about it, but nothing seems to work |
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| 12:10.56 | evanton | chalcedony: usually gets fixed by installing debian-archive-keyring and issuing an apt-get update after that |
| 12:11.00 | chalcedony | apt-key update says gpg: Total number processed: 7 gpg: unchanged: 7 |
| 12:11.15 | chalcedony | hmmm |
| 12:11.25 | chalcedony | i think i did that, but i'll try it |
| 12:12.13 | rccc | kardan: i386 |
| 12:12.57 | rccc | i 'm intalling gnash to check if that make a difference |
| 12:13.18 | chalcedony | evanton, debian-archive-keyring is already the newest version. |
| 12:13.18 | chalcedony | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded. |
| 12:13.49 | chalcedony | i did try that before, same |
| 12:14.04 | rccc | kardan: chromium and firefox are affected |
| 12:14.06 | mumpitze1 | chalcedony: apt-cache policy libsqlite3-0 |
| 12:14.20 | chalcedony | mumpitze1, thank you |
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| 12:15.25 | rccc | once player crashed i got this error: |
| 12:15.26 | rccc | *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/chromium/chromium --type=plugin --plugin-path=/usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so |
| 12:16.09 | chalcedony | mumpitze1, http://pastebin.com/QNPdFWy4 |
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| 12:17.35 | mumpitze1 | it's not a debian package but a bpo one. get the bpo keyring |
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| 12:18.22 | chalcedony | ah |
| 12:18.31 | kardan | rccc: I bet icecat as well. please give me a hint if there is a solution (not following right now) |
| 12:18.33 | mumpitze1 | not sure if bpo actually has a keyring |
| 12:18.39 | chalcedony | hmmmm |
| 12:19.24 | mumpitze1 | the other packages sound like bpo packages too btw |
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| 12:19.42 | chalcedony | oh i see |
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| 12:20.09 | chalcedony | i'm really not an expert on this, can you fill me in more? |
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| 12:21.28 | smeagoll | Successfully installed XEN on Debian 7. But the command "xsconsole" does not work... Through the XenCenter console does not appear |
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| 12:22.25 | kardan | btw I also see "2.4+ kernel w/o ELF notes? -- report this" with 3.2.0-55-generic i386 precise (assumingly it's not OS specific) |
| 12:23.17 | mumpitze1 | kardan: what has a ubuntu kernel to do with debian? |
| 12:23.44 | rccc | this pb seems to appear on archlinux too |
| 12:24.08 | kardan | mumpitze1: can't tell if there are similarities |
| 12:24.27 | rccc | gnash with and without flashplugin-nonfree -> problem still there |
| 12:24.29 | chalcedony | http://backports.debian.org/ does this apply to my problem even? |
| 12:24.59 | mumpitze1 | chalcedony: yes |
| 12:25.15 | mumpitze1 | well, dunno if it applies, but these are backports packages |
| 12:25.18 | chalcedony | mumpitze1, yay |
| 12:25.59 | chalcedony | is my problem that squeeze has gotten too old? |
| 12:26.59 | rccc | i'm not sure the libvdpau is related to '*** glibc detected ***' above ... |
| 12:27.18 | rccc | *not sure these two errors are related |
| 12:28.29 | mumpitze1 | chalcedony: shouldn't be. but you should thinking about upgrading to debian stable anyways. |
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| 12:29.59 | chalcedony | mumpitze1, yes, just time to do it, i don't have yet |
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| 12:30.03 | rccc | iceweasel gives no errors when flash okugin crashed |
| 12:30.07 | rccc | *plugin |
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| 12:32.14 | gonch | hi, is there any easy way to upgrade from deb 7.2 to the 8 branch? |
| 12:32.25 | jeetpei | hi rccc |
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| 12:32.31 | chalcedony | # deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports(-sloppy) main |
| 12:32.32 | chalcedony | -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `(' |
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| 12:32.51 | chalcedony | am i supposed to escape that? |
| 12:32.56 | C00re | yes |
| 12:32.57 | jeetpei | i have a question about debian package |
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| 12:33.09 | jeetpei | we created a debian package |
| 12:33.11 | chalcedony | hi jeekl |
| 12:33.17 | abrotman | dpkg: tell gonch about wheezy->jessie |
| 12:33.36 | sts | hello folks. I'm trying to create a Debian package from my source code, which is stored in Git, and its asking me about some orig.tar.gz all the time. |
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| 12:33.47 | gonch | abrotman, thanks |
| 12:33.51 | chalcedony | squeeze-backports\(-sloppy\) main |
| 12:33.51 | chalcedony | -bash: deb: command not found |
| 12:33.51 | jeetpei | and we are seeing we can upgrade new debien package with old |
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| 12:34.22 | rccc | jeetpei: hi |
| 12:34.35 | C00re | dpkg: tell C00re about wheezy-jessie |
| 12:34.42 | jeetpei | rccc : so i need to do something which check already installed version and abort install if already a new package |
| 12:34.57 | abrotman | dpkg: tell C00re about selftell |
| 12:35.06 | jeetpei | i know in prerm we do that |
| 12:35.14 | jeetpei | but how ? |
| 12:35.16 | jeetpei | :) |
| 12:35.32 | C00re | ok. |
| 12:35.38 | linux-fox | !tell linux-fox about selftell |
| 12:35.41 | chalcedony | abrotman, nice to see you :) |
| 12:35.45 | C00re | dpkg: tell me about wheezy-jessie |
| 12:35.57 | C00re | 13:35:47 <dpkg> i dunno what is 'wheezy-jessie'. |
| 12:35.58 | abrotman | C00re: seriously? did you not read what the bot just told you? |
| 12:36.11 | C00re | yes i did |
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| 12:36.16 | abrotman | it told you to use /msg |
| 12:36.20 | jeetpei | i can give you my prerm scrip |
| 12:36.36 | abrotman | jeetpei: if it's already the same version, it won't try to upgrade it? |
| 12:36.44 | C00re | oh |
| 12:36.47 | C00re | i misread |
| 12:36.54 | smeagoll | Successfully installed XEN on Debian 7. But the command "xsconsole" does not work... Through the XenCenter console does not appear |
| 12:37.09 | jeetpei | i see when i install newer version and try to upgrade with older .. i can do this |
| 12:37.17 | jeetpei | i am finding a way to bar this |
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| 12:38.32 | jeetpei | http://pastebin.com/BMUiGppH here is prerm !! |
| 12:38.34 | rccc | i have to specify that pb occurs only whith cam chat player, i have no problems when playing a video with browser ( chromium and iceweasel ) |
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| 12:42.25 | jeetpei | rccc : any idea ? |
| 12:42.38 | smeagoll | Successfully installed XEN on Debian 7. But the command "xsconsole" does not work... Through the XenCenter console does not appear |
| 12:43.02 | chalcedony | what am i supposed to do with a deb file? |
| 12:43.11 | zack6849 | install it |
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| 12:43.58 | chalcedony | zack6849, you mean like apt-get install? |
| 12:44.16 | zack6849 | dpkg -i <filename> if i recall correctly |
| 12:44.17 | dpkg | package <filename> if i recall correctly is already installed |
| 12:44.34 | zack6849 | wot. |
| 12:44.42 | abrotman | it's a bot |
| 12:44.46 | jeetpei | :) |
| 12:44.56 | chalcedony | bots for you ;P |
| 12:44.56 | zack6849 | well yeah, i get that, but what a silly thing to have |
| 12:45.09 | jeetpei | abortman : any idea about my problem |
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| 12:46.03 | jeetpei | dpkg: tell me about prerm |
| 12:46.10 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jeetpei about selftell |
| 12:46.14 | abrotman | why is this so hard to grasp ... |
| 12:46.44 | chalcedony | dpkg: error processing deb (--install): |
| 12:46.44 | chalcedony | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.44 | dpkg | chalcedony: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 12:46.51 | chalcedony | smiles |
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| 12:47.57 | chalcedony | http://pastebin.com/svLFxzD6 ok it isn't an errror, what do i know? |
| 12:48.26 | jeetpei | abortman : any idea |
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| 12:48.56 | chalcedony | zack6849, what do you think? |
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| 12:49.16 | zack6849 | .... |
| 12:49.26 | zack6849 | what am i even reading... |
| 12:49.36 | zack6849 | you download the deb |
| 12:49.41 | zack6849 | it doesnt do urls i dont think |
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| 12:49.48 | zack6849 | even if it did, that isnt a valid url |
| 12:49.54 | afterglow94 | hey guys, I need a little help... |
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| 12:50.03 | chalcedony | oh goody, yes i thought so |
| 12:50.19 | afterglow94 | when i run something using cron on bootup |
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| 12:50.24 | afterglow94 | does it run as root or as a user? |
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| 12:50.38 | zack6849 | if i had to take a guess i would say the suer |
| 12:50.40 | zack6849 | user* |
| 12:50.48 | zack6849 | but i dont know much so i could very well be wrong :D |
| 12:50.52 | afterglow94 | hahah |
| 12:50.55 | afterglow94 | i don't know very much either |
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| 12:51.01 | afterglow94 | thanks man |
| 12:51.03 | afterglow94 | i'll try that out |
| 12:51.19 | chalcedony | zack6849, i just need somebody to tell me what to do |
| 12:51.31 | zack6849 | if i knew what you were trying to do |
| 12:51.34 | zack6849 | i would tell you |
| 12:51.36 | chalcedony | :) |
| 12:51.52 | chalcedony | i got the errror when i was trying to update squeeze |
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| 12:52.35 | chalcedony | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! - libsqlite3-0 libnspr4-0d libnspr4 thunderbird-l10n-ar - Install these packages without verification [y/N]? |
| 12:52.44 | chalcedony | which we think are backports files |
| 12:52.44 | zack6849 | sure why not |
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| 12:53.00 | chalcedony | but what to do about it zack6849? |
| 12:53.08 | zack6849 | click yes? |
| 12:53.12 | zack6849 | its your system, not mine |
| 12:53.14 | chalcedony | that's bad |
| 12:53.31 | chalcedony | one should know that the packages they install are good |
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| 12:54.35 | chrisward | generally that error is okay to ignore, unless you're using third-party untrusted repos |
| 12:54.41 | chalcedony | ah |
| 12:54.49 | jair | hello guys, I am trying to install debian stable 7.2 64bit on a w510 laptop with brand new SSD Sata drive. Using the netinst iso and having troubles because the installer cannot find cdrom drivers? the whole point of using netinst is so I install using the internet connection...? any idea? |
| 12:54.50 | chalcedony | don't think i'm doing that |
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| 12:55.29 | chalcedony | chrisward, i'll try it then. thank you |
| 12:55.34 | zack6849 | wdfs |
| 12:55.37 | jair | I have a samsung SSD 512GB and I have the bios set to AHCI |
| 12:55.37 | abrotman | jair: how did you create it ? |
| 12:55.38 | zack6849 | woah wut |
| 12:55.45 | jair | abrotman: the netinst? |
| 12:55.50 | zack6849 | chrisward, i didnt even know you used freenode |
| 12:55.58 | chrisward | zack6849, I do indeed |
| 12:56.06 | abrotman | jair: how did you prepare it? |
| 12:56.14 | jair | abrotman: unetbootin |
| 12:56.19 | abrotman | don't do that |
| 12:56.23 | jair | ahhh |
| 12:56.27 | abrotman | it rarely works, unetbootin is a broken pile of crap |
| 12:56.32 | jair | ha |
| 12:56.35 | jair | alright |
| 12:56.36 | chalcedony | W: GPG error: http://packages.linuxmint.com debian Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3EE67F3D0FF405B2 |
| 12:56.36 | chalcedony | W: GPG error: http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports Release: The following signatures were invalid: KEYEXPIRED 1352888501 |
| 12:56.59 | abrotman | chalcedony: this is NOT a Mint support channel, please go to their channel |
| 12:57.04 | jair | abrotman: I will have to create it myself following the debian wiki |
| 12:57.09 | jair | abrotman: alright |
| 12:57.11 | chalcedony | abrotman, please. i am not running mint |
| 12:57.17 | abrotman | you're not running Debian |
| 12:57.21 | chalcedony | yes i am |
| 12:57.24 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jair about usb install |
| 12:57.29 | abrotman | chalcedony: not if you're using Mint packages |
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| 12:57.49 | jair | abrotman: will do my friend thanks! |
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| 12:58.13 | chalcedony | abrotman, i have no idea, but that's not what i'm interested in |
| 12:58.43 | mumpitze1 | jair: either use the debian installer on the usb stick only, or if you want to have more than one OS on the USB stick, use YUMI |
| 12:58.48 | abrotman | chalcedony: please use the Mint support channel, good luck |
| 12:58.51 | abrotman | dpkg: tell chalcedony about mint |
| 12:58.58 | chalcedony | i don't want mint |
| 12:59.02 | chalcedony | never did |
| 12:59.12 | chalcedony | must be something i tried for some thing way back |
| 12:59.15 | jair | mumpitze1: alright. Thank you! |
| 12:59.24 | jair | mumpitze1: will try that now |
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| 12:59.43 | chalcedony | i'm far more concerned about the GPG error |
| 12:59.47 | mumpitze1 | jair: yumi will only put live cds on the stick btw. but you have a netinst coming with them too |
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| 13:00.42 | jair | mumpitze1: I see ok the thing is I do have just a work pc (windows unfortunately) and my laptop (where I want to install debian) |
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| 13:01.23 | sjamaan | hm, if I install "chicken", and try to install an egg (extension library), it complains that "gcc" is missing. Shouldn't that be a dependency of chicken-bin and/or libchicken-dev? |
| 13:01.41 | abrotman | chalcedony: if you odn't want it, remove the source line, problem solved |
| 13:02.05 | sjamaan | (CHICKEN is a Scheme->C compiler which will automatically call the system C compiler after translating to C, in order to build a binary) |
| 13:02.11 | abrotman | chalcedony: or ask the Mint channel how to fix that .. it's their apt source |
| 13:02.25 | chalcedony | i dont think i need it |
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| 13:02.57 | abrotman | maybe you should ask them |
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| 13:03.44 | chalcedony | somehow it feels like you want to get rid of m |
| 13:03.45 | chalcedony | e |
| 13:04.13 | abrotman | it's not a Debian problem |
| 13:04.47 | chalcedony | my son always spelled debian with a lower case d |
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| 13:05.54 | chalcedony | i can remove it from /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 13:06.33 | CissWit | why would you have linuxmint repository in your sources.list if you are using debian ? |
| 13:06.48 | firztspawn | I was just thinking that |
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| 13:06.52 | chalcedony | do i need iceweasel if i'm running real firefox? |
| 13:07.09 | firztspawn | iceweasel is open source firefox |
| 13:07.10 | firztspawn | so no |
| 13:07.14 | abrotman | CissWit: i've been trying to make that point, but chalcedony insists he's not running Mint .. |
| 13:07.26 | abrotman | firztspawn: firefox is open source ... |
| 13:07.32 | CissWit | chalcedony: how did you install "real firefox" ? |
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| 13:07.47 | chalcedony | CissWit, it was complicated. but i like it |
| 13:07.49 | firztspawn | ok.. so what is the difference? |
| 13:07.52 | firztspawn | licensing? |
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| 13:07.59 | abrotman | dpkg: tell firztspawn about why iceweasel |
| 13:08.08 | chalcedony | btw i'm she not he |
| 13:08.15 | abrotman | it's still not Debian |
| 13:08.37 | CissWit | :) |
| 13:08.41 | firztspawn | chalcedony, pastebin your sources.list please |
| 13:08.58 | chalcedony | abrotman, dear i'm sorry to make your day so complicated. |
| 13:09.45 | abrotman | it's nto complicated, you're not using Debian, go to the correct channel |
| 13:10.07 | chalcedony | http://pastebin.com/6UXeTu02 |
| 13:10.11 | chalcedony | not any more |
| 13:10.15 | smeagoll | Successfully installed XEN on Debian 7. But the command "xsconsole" does not work... Through the XenCenter console does not appear |
| 13:10.16 | firztspawn | hang on abrotman .. lets at least see what the sources.list looks like |
| 13:10.32 | mumpitze1 | firztspawn: he will edit before paste |
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| 13:10.57 | firztspawn | why the debian-backports for iceweasel? |
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| 13:11.21 | firztspawn | mumpitze1, he is a she |
| 13:11.23 | mumpitze1 | firztspawn: cause iceweasel gets a new version every 2 months or so. debian only releases a new stable evern 1-2 years |
| 13:11.30 | chalcedony | that probably fixed something last time i did updates or something |
| 13:11.43 | abrotman | problem resolved |
| 13:11.45 | mumpitze1 | firztspawn: he is a non-debian user. I don't give a fuck what gender such a lower lifeform is |
| 13:11.57 | chalcedony | speak nicely |
| 13:12.03 | firztspawn | elitist |
| 13:12.11 | chalcedony | ive had 7 kids, how many have you had |
| 13:12.12 | chalcedony | ? |
| 13:12.29 | firztspawn | chalcedony, uname -r |
| 13:12.30 | abrotman | wtf does that have to do with anything ? |
| 13:12.42 | chalcedony | abrotman, debian elitism |
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| 13:13.00 | firztspawn | I meant uname -a sorry |
| 13:13.18 | abrotman | dpkg: tell chalcedony about mint |
| 13:13.32 | abrotman | chalcedony: this channel is for Debian support, not Mint support. Please use their support channel |
| 13:14.21 | abrotman | dpkg: tell chalcedony about based on debian |
| 13:15.44 | louisdk | I've a Debian jessie install on hard drive that'll not boot. Error message: http://pastebin.com/8RdR86MX. I've reinstalled grub on that drive but still get the same error and I can chroot to the partition. I suspect that he kernel isn't installed currently, but I don't know how to debug this. |
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| 13:20.20 | hikenboot | I have a bunch of debian boxes running in virtual machines (latest stable) I see no way of totally turning off screen saver, screen blanking, and passwords, has this been removed? |
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| 13:23.52 | hikenboot | never mind xset -dpms should do the trick |
| 13:24.12 | dvs | louisdk: Did you use the wheezy installer? |
| 13:26.27 | smeaagol | Successfully installed XEN on Debian 7. But the command "xsconsole" does not work... Through the XenCenter console does not appear |
| 13:26.29 | demfc | how to install a package skipping the graphic configuration with aptitude? |
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| 13:37.56 | jair | abrotman: I am so sorry but now I am booting the netinst and is ridiculous asking me again for cdrom files? |
| 13:38.17 | jair | abrotman: this is a netinst... maybe because I don't have the internet cable connected? |
| 13:38.24 | jair | abrotman: I will connect it now and try |
| 13:38.56 | jair | abrotman: I have never have this issue before |
| 13:39.18 | jair | abrotman: I am installing on a SSD drive Sata III maybe because of that? |
| 13:39.18 | abrotman | jair: how did you prepare it this time? |
| 13:39.33 | jair | abrotman: abrotman and I am also setting the bios to AHCI |
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| 13:40.28 | jair | abrotman: Using YUMI |
| 13:40.45 | jair | netinst boot with the screen fine |
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| 13:41.34 | abrotman | wtf is YUMI? |
| 13:41.55 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jair about usb insall |
| 13:41.57 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jair about usb install |
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| 13:42.04 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jair about usb install |
| 13:42.08 | jair | abrotman: haha it is another tool. I am unfortunately using a windows machine :( |
| 13:42.17 | abrotman | do you see YUMI anywhere in what dpkg told you ? |
| 13:42.58 | jair | nope |
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| 13:43.24 | jair | abrotman: my friend, but I am not running debian in the work laptop :( |
| 13:43.44 | mumpitze1 | abrotman: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ |
| 13:43.48 | abrotman | jair: read the whole factoid |
| 13:43.53 | abrotman | mumpitze1: yes, i can use google too :) |
| 13:44.03 | jair | abrotman: I will try running this windows machine with a live cd then |
| 13:44.03 | mumpitze1 | jair: I told you to use the debian LIVE cd |
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| 13:44.14 | jair | mumpitze1: same error |
| 13:44.17 | mumpitze1 | jair: yumi will put a live cd on the usb stick |
| 13:44.24 | jair | mumpitze1: that is why I try with the netinst |
| 13:44.32 | abrotman | jair: use the netinst, read what the bot told you |
| 13:44.44 | mumpitze1 | if you use the netinst iso, you dd or cp it. or if on windows, you can use win32diskimager |
| 13:44.47 | jair | abrotman: will do exactly as you say |
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| 13:45.29 | jair | I will boot this machine with a live version of debian and then create the usb using what abrotman gave me |
| 13:45.36 | jair | abrotman: I will be back |
| 13:45.53 | abrotman | wtf |
| 13:45.53 | abrotman | no |
| 13:45.56 | abrotman | did you read anything?! |
| 13:46.27 | jair | abrotman: I said I will do as the document you sent me say |
| 13:46.36 | jair | I need to have linux in order to do that |
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| 13:47.03 | abrotman | no |
| 13:47.09 | abrotman | jair: READ THE WHOLE FACTOID |
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| 13:47.24 | jair | abrotman: ok let me check |
| 13:47.56 | abrotman | reading is hard, let's go shopping |
| 13:48.25 | jair | haha |
| 13:48.48 | jair | abrotman: sorry what do you mean with FACTOID the whole document? |
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| 13:48.49 | abrotman | it's not funny |
| 13:49.00 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jair about usb install |
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| 13:49.55 | jair | abrotman: abrotman ok I saw something about win32diskimager |
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| 13:50.11 | jair | abrotman: I will try that OK since I am running a windows machine from work |
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| 13:50.57 | SweetMuffin | can i list recently installed software in windows store ? |
| 13:51.08 | SweetMuffin | gosh, mischat, sorry |
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| 13:55.08 | jair | abrotman: you are the man! |
| 13:55.49 | jair | Everybody I bow to abrotman !! (^.^)/ |
| 13:56.12 | abrotman | jair: things are much easier when *you* read |
| 13:56.16 | jair | ]Thank you very much not to continue installing on this new SSD from samsung |
| 13:56.19 | jair | :) |
| 13:56.24 | firztspawn | weeee... |
| 13:56.31 | misternanyte | so debian is OK I guess... |
| 13:56.40 | misternanyte | what's with the goddamn 1984 linux admins on irc? |
| 13:56.47 | firztspawn | I just helped a Debian user... |
| 13:56.47 | misternanyte | they are freaking worse than microsoft fanbois |
| 13:57.00 | Derpadong | Lol |
| 13:57.15 | firztspawn | that's spelt D e b i a n... not M i n t |
| 13:57.18 | misternanyte | i love it how these idiots think they're going to threaten me and boss me around. |
| 13:57.32 | firztspawn | anyway, Im off to bed |
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| 13:57.46 | abrotman | misternanyte: please go play elsewhere |
| 13:58.05 | Derpadong | Lol nice |
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| 14:03.35 | jair | abrotman: in a 16GB memory PC the swap partition can be 8GB and will be more than enough |
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| 14:03.54 | jair | abrotman: the default guided partition is allocating 20GB for swap |
| 14:04.10 | abrotman | jair: is that a question ? |
| 14:04.44 | jair | isn't that space wasted? |
| 14:05.01 | jair | the question is, what will you choose? 512GB drive and 16GB memory ram |
| 14:05.37 | jair | I am thinking on leaving the whole system in one partition simple and 8GB swap? |
| 14:05.58 | abrotman | probably fine, though you did'nt say what you're doing with the box |
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| 14:07.04 | jair | sometimes will run virtual machines on it |
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| 14:15.15 | jair | abrotman: sorry like I was saying. This will be my home laptop and mini everything |
| 14:15.30 | jair | abrotman: I will run a few virtual machines for testing |
| 14:15.53 | honestly | =ww |
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| 14:16.02 | honestly | whoops, scratch that |
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| 14:19.57 | mumpitze1 | jair: it totally depends how many VMs at what size you run at the same time |
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| 14:27.04 | jair | mumpitze1: thank you, I will be running just about 10 max and no bigger than 20 GB and 1G or less |
| 14:28.18 | mumpitze1 | 20GB you will obviously need swap |
| 14:28.42 | JyZyXEL | what is the meaning of a #block in cat /proc/partitions? |
| 14:28.43 | abrotman | he meant 20GB HDD |
| 14:28.49 | abrotman | for the VM |
| 14:29.03 | jair | right but the HD is SSD 512GB |
| 14:29.14 | jair | my physical SATA III drive |
| 14:29.32 | jair | I wonder if now it matters where you put the swap since is not a cilinder disk |
| 14:29.46 | mumpitze1 | no, for a SSD it's meaningless |
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| 14:30.24 | jair | so the default is partitioning 491GB for / and 20.7GB swap |
| 14:31.05 | jair | I am thinking about changing it to 8GB swap |
| 14:31.10 | jair | and rest for / |
| 14:31.23 | jair | running about 10 vms at the same time max |
| 14:31.27 | jair | small vms |
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| 14:41.49 | eth0ghost | hello all. |
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| 14:47.17 | jair | OK looks like I am making progress now |
| 14:47.19 | jair | :) |
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| 14:51.32 | bluesm_ | Can I hide the pawel@debian apafrom my terminal |
| 14:51.34 | bbtech_ | I have a pcie network card installed that I would like to disable. Then enable a usb wifi adapter that I just plugged in. How do I do that? |
| 14:51.34 | bluesm_ | Can I hide the pawel@debian apafrom my terminal |
| 14:51.46 | bluesm_ | *part from my terminal. |
| 14:52.54 | abrotman | bluesm_: yes, change your PS1 |
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| 14:55.46 | bbtech_ | oh, does wlan0 down disable the card? |
| 14:56.03 | bbtech_ | that was wrong.... ifdown wlan0 |
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| 14:56.58 | abrotman | what did you think it would do ? |
| 14:57.03 | bbtech_ | oh, easier than I thought....I'm too used to windows |
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| 14:57.50 | bbtech_ | abrotman: I guess I didn't think :-( |
| 14:58.12 | bbtech_ | abrotman: in my defense I just woke up |
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| 14:58.45 | bbtech_ | abrotman: my immediate thought was, where is "device manager" in linux |
| 14:59.12 | abrotman | most laptops have a button to disable wifi |
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| 14:59.43 | bluesm_ | trifolio6: what do you mean ? |
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| 15:00.23 | bluesm_ | abrotman: I don't know what is ps1 |
| 15:01.09 | bbtech_ | abrotman: how do you know if you have a hardware conflict? In windows you get a little yellow icon in device manager when there is a conflict |
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| 15:02.17 | bbtech_ | bluesm_: It is a variable |
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| 15:02.32 | bbtech_ | bluesm_: type echo $PS1 in the prompt |
| 15:03.06 | bbtech_ | bluesm_: then you can change it with something like: export PS1='\$ ' |
| 15:04.55 | abrotman | bluesm_: man bash |
| 15:05.28 | annanna | two quick questions: 1) where can i find the list of default programs that come with debian live 7.2 lxde ? 2) when installing debian is it necessary/better/unimportant to be connected to the internet ? |
| 15:05.47 | eth0ghost | Is youtube-viewer decent, any of you tried it? |
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| 15:07.06 | trifolio6 | bluesm: trifolio6: what do you mean ? -> did you readed something from me? |
| 15:07.09 | dvs | annanna: It's better to be connected to the Internet |
| 15:07.09 | qrada | hey, anyone know what package 'ip' is in? i want to apt-get source.. can't find it with apt-file |
| 15:07.22 | mumpitze1 | !tell qrada about search |
| 15:07.28 | annanna | dvs: thank you. why is it better? |
| 15:07.34 | mumpitze1 | qrada: you can look for "bin/ip" |
| 15:07.47 | qrada | ah.. |
| 15:08.13 | qrada | thanks |
| 15:08.21 | dvs | annanna: So that it will set up your repos when you do it during the installation |
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| 15:09.01 | annanna | ok, thanks. what about the first question? any idea? |
| 15:09.20 | dvs | no idea |
| 15:09.53 | annanna | anybody know where can i find the list of default programs that come with debian live 7.2 lxde ? |
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| 15:10.07 | bbtech_ | how do you detect an irq conflict? Is it displayed on boot or is there a command to run after boot? |
| 15:10.47 | stomach | Successfully installed XEN on Debian 7. But the command "xsconsole" does not work... Through the XenCenter console does not appear |
| 15:11.04 | mtn | annanna: try the site where the you find the iso? |
| 15:11.14 | swick | hey, the 3.11 kernel doesn't boot for me. It gets stuck in initramfs when unlocking the encrypted drive because it doesn't seem to take any input. |
| 15:11.20 | annanna | mtn: dont see it there |
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| 15:12.07 | mtn | annanna: if it is not available there, I guess you would have to download it and take a look. |
| 15:12.20 | ctmjr | http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/stable/i386/iso-hybrid/ |
| 15:12.33 | annanna | mtn: strange one cannot know in advance which programs are included.... |
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| 15:12.44 | annanna | mtn: but thank you |
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| 15:15.37 | bbtech_ | looks like cat /proc/interrrupts gives me the irq settings |
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| 15:22.39 | eth0ghost | ++++++++++++++ |
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| 15:23.27 | kamil | hi |
| 15:23.46 | Filar | is there any way to download jessie netinst through torrent? |
| 15:24.05 | eth0ghost | Sorry, kid was playing with kb while I was using the bathroom =) |
| 15:24.09 | Filar | the download from debian server is horribly slow |
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| 15:28.02 | zykotick9 | Filar: you shouldn't be using the "testing installer" (which will eventually be used for Jessie) at this point at all... use a "stable" install - then migrate. |
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| 15:30.42 | jeetpei | I need to edit prerm file in that way so if newer version getting upgrade by older version .. upgrade should abort .. i see there are many method abort-upgrade abort-install etc. but could not find way to implement this |
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| 15:31.11 | jeetpei | i asked this may time can you ppl please response |
| 15:31.12 | yac | is 1.2a correct verison in debian? Or should it be 1.a2 ? |
| 15:31.57 | jeetpei | yac: ? |
| 15:32.13 | yac | or it's just that the method is first separate initial ALFA and the the take the rest lexicaly, so it would be 1.2a > 1.3 > 1.2 > 1.a ? |
| 15:32.39 | yac | I mean debian package version |
| 15:33.07 | Filar | zykotick9: ok, but am I not risking any dependency conflicts during the migration? |
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| 15:35.39 | zykotick9 | Filar: migrating from stable->testing is basically, the "recommended" method. when using testing/unstable there are always "some" risks. personally, i'd consider stable->testing a "downgrade" (that's why avoid using the term upgrade, and use migrate instead) |
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| 15:37.29 | yac | lexical ordering means it's ordered by the characters ascii value, right? |
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| 15:41.48 | jeetpei | I need to edit prerm file in that way so if newer version getting upgrade by older version .. upgrade should abort .. i see there are many method abort-upgrade abort-install etc. but could not find way to implement this |
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| 15:43.42 | mumpitze1 | jeetpei: apt doesn't replace a new version with an older one |
| 15:44.13 | jeetpei | i know but what about dpkg ? |
| 15:44.38 | jeetpei | and i guess this read prerm postrm postinst etc scripts before installing |
| 15:44.52 | jeetpei | so i need to modify prerm script i guess |
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| 15:47.25 | abrotman | jeetpei: this shouldn't happen if you |
| 15:47.30 | abrotman | jeetpei: this shouldn't happen if you've done your package version correctly |
| 15:48.29 | jeetpei | i guess version is correct but some problem in prerm !! can you suggest something which i need to look up ? |
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| 15:49.22 | abrotman | jeetpei: this is in the new maintainer guide or policy manual, these are on the Debian website in the docs area |
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| 15:50.00 | jeetpei | is this https://wiki.debian.org/MaintainerScripts |
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| 15:50.45 | abrotman | seriously? |
| 15:50.53 | NBhosting | he all, im kinda new to debian > centos user uptill now |
| 15:51.08 | NBhosting | after installing debian 7 netinstall, im not able to install any packages |
| 15:51.15 | abrotman | NBhosting: what's the error? |
| 15:51.20 | NBhosting | for example apt-get install ssh give me |
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| 15:51.44 | NBhosting | package has no release candidate |
| 15:51.47 | NBhosting | same for mlocate |
| 15:51.55 | NBhosting | it doesnt seem to install any packages |
| 15:51.56 | abrotman | dpkg: tell NBhosting about wheezy sources.list |
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| 15:52.20 | NBhosting | do i need to change something in that file? |
| 15:52.38 | eth0ghost | Make sure your sources are correct/sudo apt-get update/sudo apt-get install foo |
| 15:52.40 | abrotman | see what the 'dpkg' bot told you in msg |
| 15:53.47 | NBhosting | apt-get update calls 5 http://securtiy.debian.org release/source/packages/translation |
| 15:54.35 | abrotman | NBhosting: see what the bot told you |
| 15:54.53 | zykotick9 | NBhosting: fyi, if you installed without a network, then your source.list won't have a "real" netowrk mirror. see what abrotman is telling you, via-dpkg. |
| 15:54.54 | NBhosting | i dont see any bot text? |
| 15:55.08 | abrotman | dpkg: tell NBhosting about wheezy sources.list |
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| 15:55.26 | abrotman | NBhosting: check other windows in your IRC client |
| 15:55.30 | NBhosting | k gona look into that file |
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| 15:56.06 | Asad3ainJalout | Hello guys, I am having a slight issue setting up my wifi. I have tried everything on the wiki |
| 15:56.17 | Asad3ainJalout | I am sure I am missing something, can anyone give me a hand? |
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| 15:56.20 | zykotick9 | NBhosting: and, sorry it's sources.list |
| 15:56.30 | abrotman | the bot already told him ... |
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| 15:56.37 | mumpitze1 | Asad3ainJalout: state your problem |
| 15:56.38 | abrotman | Asad3ainJalout: just ask, no need to ask |
| 15:56.41 | abrotman | erm .. ask to ask |
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| 15:59.37 | NBhosting | great thanks |
| 15:59.49 | Asad3ainJalout | lol ok. Well basically I installed the firmware-realtek. however when i go to configure it therein lies the problem. I type wicd-client -n but it does not detect any wireless networks. |
| 15:59.51 | abrotman | NBhosting: working now ? |
| 15:59.59 | NBhosting | yep working |
| 16:00.02 | abrotman | Asad3ainJalout: did you tell wicd to manage your wifi? |
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| 16:00.11 | NBhosting | think the netinstall messed it up then |
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| 16:00.22 | abrotman | (the GUI one needs you to configure it to use your wireless) |
| 16:00.32 | abrotman | NBhosting: you probably didn't have network functional when you installed |
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| 16:00.49 | Asad3ainJalout | ahhh, well that probably is the issue, the wiki doesnt mention anything special for the gui |
| 16:00.56 | zykotick9 | abrotman: wicd-curses requires manually entering wireless interface as well ;) |
| 16:01.05 | Asad3ainJalout | let me do a quick scan using the terminal real quick and tell you if it sees anything |
| 16:01.06 | abrotman | he said -client, not -curses ? |
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| 16:01.41 | zykotick9 | abrotman: i was refering to your "the GUI one needs you to configure" ... |
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| 16:03.15 | abrotman | oh ok |
| 16:03.59 | astran | Hello has anyone tried to install a cache on a ssd on debian jessie ? |
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| 16:04.09 | Asad3ainJalout | hmm it says that my wireless (wlan0) doesnt support scanning and that the network is down. Do i have to type "ip link set wlan0 up" ? |
| 16:04.37 | abrotman | just try it |
| 16:05.08 | Asad3ainJalout | yah I am just making sure i dont break something I am using root |
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| 16:05.21 | Asad3ainJalout | yah scanning worked now I think i can take it from here Thanks guys |
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| 16:09.02 | tete_ | hi, i have wheezy and just installed wordpress. can someone tell me where i find documentation how to configure that? e.g. i find no index.php/index.html in /var/lib/wordpress |
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| 16:10.01 | abrotman | tete_: /usr/share/doc/<pkgname>/ |
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| 16:10.06 | horst2 | all debian archives have a manpage try "man wordpress" or something |
| 16:10.09 | tete_ | thx :) |
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| 16:11.39 | astran | tete_: you will have to make a link to your /var/www folder |
| 16:11.48 | abrotman | no ... |
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| 16:11.56 | tete_ | astran, i prefer alias in apache |
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| 16:12.08 | astran | ok |
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| 16:12.59 | astran | tete_: it's just what worked for me |
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| 16:16.46 | tete_ | hm whats a bit confusing, i have /var/lib/wordpress/wp-content and /usr/share/wordpress, where the last one looks better to me |
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| 16:31.56 | L4Rulez | Hi! |
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| 16:34.04 | luser0 | How often should Jessie remap the vg mini when live? |
| 16:34.31 | luser0 | of course, it should never remap when not live, i suppose |
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| 16:41.04 | luser0 | Let me rephrase the question: What stats are best to determine when the vg mini should be remapped? |
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| 17:20.42 | honest_man | http://www.vegfriend.com |
| 17:20.57 | jhutchins_wk | What do I need to install or enable to get USB drives auto-mounting on xfce? |
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| 17:21.21 | honest_man | thunar volume manager? |
| 17:22.08 | jhutchins_wk | honest_man: Seems to be installed, how do I enable it? |
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| 17:22.56 | luser0 | USB? I thought thunar was reserved for the USC ports? |
| 17:23.12 | luser0 | oh, that should have gone to off topic |
| 17:23.23 | tete_ | hm there is unfortunately no documentation in how to setup wordpress from repository in debian wheezy, thats bad. does anyone know a tutorial based on wordpress from repository? its now complaining that there is no /etc/wordpress/config-www.mysite.de.php |
| 17:23.30 | tete_ | but also no information where i could get a default one |
| 17:25.01 | jhutchins_wk | Hm, seems the user can't mount USB volumes. |
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| 17:26.30 | jhutchins_wk | Seems what I'm looking for is the usbmount package. |
| 17:28.59 | luser0 | tete, do you have a limbas implementation under box on kde? |
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| 17:38.53 | bbtech_ | Is there a way to upgrade hplip to 3.13.10 using aptitude install of the installer @ http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html |
| 17:38.59 | tete_ | luser0, ? |
| 17:39.22 | bbtech_ | Is there a way to upgrade hplip to 3.13.10 using aptitude install *instead* of the installer @ http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html |
| 17:39.44 | tete_ | i dont have kde, i have cinnamon, and i dont know what limbas implementation is |
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| 17:42.44 | TemeV | ''''''''''' |
| 17:42.51 | TemeV | oops, sorry guys |
| 17:43.27 | jordanm | ,versions hplip |
| 17:43.29 | judd | Package: hplip on i386 -- squeeze: 3.10.6-2+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.12.6-3.1; jessie: 3.13.9-2; sid: 3.13.9-2 |
| 17:43.43 | jordanm | !tell bbtech about ssb |
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| 17:46.13 | bbtech_ | !tell didn't work |
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| 17:46.40 | bbtech_ | looks like sid doesn't even have a new enough version |
| 17:47.17 | bbtech_ | jordanm, If sid did have a new enough version could I install the version from sid on my wheezy box? |
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| 17:48.59 | shingouz | !tell bbtech_ about ssb |
| 17:49.11 | shingouz | bbtech: did it work now? |
| 17:49.16 | jhutchins_wk | ,kernels |
| 17:49.17 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.12-rc7-686-pae (3.12~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 3.11-1-686-pae (3.11.6-2); jessie: 3.10-3-686-pae (3.10.11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.10-0.bpo.3-686-pae (3.10.11-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.51-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
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| 17:49.43 | bbtech_ | shingouz, yes, that worked |
| 17:49.49 | jhutchins_wk | what's the consensus on 3.2 vs 3.10? |
| 17:49.49 | shingouz | good |
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| 17:50.13 | jhutchins_wk | Having trouble mounting USB drive in xfce - it segfaults. |
| 17:50.31 | jhutchins_wk | ("it" presumably being thunar_ |
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| 17:52.29 | bbtech_ | How can I tell which version of hplip is available via deb-src? |
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| 17:53.33 | jhutchins_wk | bbtech_: Should match the .deb version. |
| 17:54.12 | bbtech_ | jhutchins_wk, lost me? what *.deb version? |
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| 17:54.31 | bbtech_ | jhutchins_wk, oh, I'm following, the deb version for sid |
| 17:54.43 | bbtech_ | jhutchins_wk, which isn't new enough |
| 17:54.59 | shingouz | bbtech: apt-cache showsrc package should do it |
| 17:55.25 | bbtech_ | while, I'm on this topic, what's better installing one package from sid or using launchpad or backports? |
| 17:55.50 | abrotman | launchpad isn't for Debian |
| 17:56.10 | bbtech_ | abrotman, oh I missed that, thanks! |
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| 17:56.47 | bbtech_ | so, is the idea to temporarily add sid or backports to the sources list and then after installing remove the sid line? |
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| 17:57.45 | jordanm | bbtech_: backports is safe for stable, sid isn't |
| 17:58.01 | abrotman | bbtech_: no .. you had a deb-src line, not a deb line |
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| 17:59.02 | bbtech_ | abrotman, so, is it dangerous to use a deb line instead of a src line? |
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| 18:00.12 | bbtech_ | abrotman, still though, is the src line supposed to be temporarily added just for the one install? |
| 18:00.13 | abrotman | yes, that's what jordanm is telling you |
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| 18:01.44 | bbtech_ | I'm sorry, this is new to me...and the directions by dpkg are confusing |
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| 18:02.45 | bbtech_ | It says to add a deb-src line for sid and then enable backports...I thought they were two different repositories (backports vs sid) |
| 18:03.28 | bbtech_ | and it doesn't say to remove the deb-src line once the application is installed...but I assume that would make it easy to accidentally install more software from sid? |
| 18:04.45 | bbtech_ | abrotman, on a different topic my realtek seems to be working better now after changing the wifi encryption to wep :-/ |
| 18:05.14 | shingouz | bbtech: the deb-src gives you only the source for the packege, you need to compoile it yourself. /msg dpkg foo to get help on foo; everytime you see something in <brackets> you found another keyword |
| 18:06.37 | luser0 | tete, limbas has a free implementation of an sql you may want, it is not fully open source |
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| 18:07.28 | abrotman | bbtech_: what are you actually trying to do? |
| 18:08.22 | bbtech_ | abrotman, I'm have to upgrade hplip...in my case sid doesn't have a new enough version so I will need to run the automatic installer from hplipopensource.com |
| 18:08.46 | bbtech_ | abrotman, but in the meantime, I'm trying to understand how it works if I had been able to install from deb-src sid |
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| 18:09.13 | bbtech_ | I'm confused about adding deb-src sid and turning on backports - I thought they were two different repo's? |
| 18:09.22 | shingouz | why do you have to upgrade it? your printer just does not work with the older ones? |
| 18:09.44 | luser0 | shingouz there are RGB enhancements in the latest hplip |
| 18:10.04 | bbtech_ | shingouz, yes, that is correct I need 3.13.10 |
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| 18:10.39 | bbtech_ | 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) |
| 18:10.50 | shingouz | !tell bbtech_ about uupdate |
| 18:10.52 | bbtech_ | that's the step I'm confused with...I thought it would be one or the other but not both |
| 18:12.02 | tete_ | http://pastebin.com/puBkNScQ can someone tell me wtf is going wrong here? :X |
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| 18:12.14 | shingouz | ditto.. i have not been screwing around with those, i am running mostly sid and on the few boxen that need to be a bit more stable (mrs shingouz'es laptop and a couple of others) i run testing |
| 18:13.24 | abrotman | tete_: why is something wrong ? |
| 18:13.28 | bbtech_ | shingouz, I don't think uupdate will work in the case of hplip |
| 18:13.41 | tete_ | i try to connect and it fails, why? |
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| 18:14.14 | abrotman | that might be a more useful paste |
| 18:14.19 | shingouz | bbtech: it should if you can get the sources for hplip from somewhere |
| 18:14.22 | luser0 | tete, i think you are running your SQL from an implementation that includes an old one |
| 18:14.33 | abrotman | did you check the mysql log? |
| 18:14.36 | luser0 | you may want to evaluate limbas |
| 18:14.44 | abrotman | how is that relevant? |
| 18:14.49 | tete_ | abrotman, unfortunately there is no log |
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| 18:15.04 | bbtech_ | tete_, I think you have to reload the priviledges |
| 18:15.07 | abrotman | tete_: make one |
| 18:15.16 | tete_ | bbtech, a flush privileges? |
| 18:15.21 | tete_ | hm this can be... |
| 18:15.34 | luser0 | tete, no you need a log that can help you make judgements |
| 18:16.15 | abrotman | tete_: you might do better to ask #mysql |
| 18:16.16 | bbtech_ | tete_, maybe you should specify the database on connect as well since the user only has access to the wordpress database |
| 18:16.23 | luser0 | you may prefer the unified organization under limbas |
| 18:16.26 | tete_ | no still the same error... |
| 18:16.48 | tete_ | luser0, i dont know what you smoked, and i dont care, but please stop that or i am going to put you on my ignore list |
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| 18:17.35 | luser0 | you work Oracle? |
| 18:17.36 | tete_ | bbtech, i specify the db - the db name is wordpress, thats the last parameter |
| 18:17.44 | luser0 | what is mysql, you know |
| 18:17.53 | bbtech_ | tete_, # mysql -u wordpress -p wordpress |
| 18:18.09 | bbtech_ | tete_, last parameter is the password...oh maybe I'm reading that wrong |
| 18:18.10 | tete_ | yes that means: call mysql, use the username wordpress, ask for pass and use the db wordpress, doesnt it? |
| 18:18.43 | abrotman | luser0: please stop |
| 18:18.50 | bbtech_ | tete_, yes, your right |
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| 18:19.10 | bbtech_ | tete_, is this a bad paste? create user wordpress identified by 'password'; |
| 18:19.19 | bbtech_ | tete_, sorry ignore me |
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| 18:19.45 | tete_ | bbtech no i really created that user with password because the real password has some special chars in it and i thought maybe thats the problem |
| 18:19.50 | bbtech_ | tete_, yeah, my best guess is flush priviledges |
| 18:19.52 | tete_ | but its not working even with password as password :) |
| 18:20.08 | tete_ | i did flush but it did not help.. i dont understand it... my user roundcube is working like a charm, also the root account |
| 18:20.18 | bbtech_ | tete_, it might be the 'localhost' part |
| 18:20.23 | abrotman | oh, maybe ask #mysql |
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| 18:20.53 | bbtech_ | tete_, it is probably connecting as your server name 'hostname' |
| 18:22.19 | tete_ | GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON wordpress.* to 'wordpress'@'%'; - still the same :/ |
| 18:22.26 | tete_ | i will ask now #mysql |
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| 18:23.12 | jhutchins_wk | How do I set the timezone for xfce? In kde I'd click on the clock, but it doesn't have any options. |
| 18:23.53 | tete_ | jhutchins_wk, tried with /etc/timezone ? |
| 18:24.21 | grimeton | jhutchins_wk: set the global timezone dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
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| 18:25.41 | exploit-mcurran | can anyone here who uses wpa_supplicant with networking services give me a sample of their /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf? |
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| 18:25.58 | grimeton | exploit-mcurran: nothing in the examples? what's the exact probem? |
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| 18:26.29 | exploit-mcurran | I have four devices that should be brought up as wlan0 wlan1 wlan2 wlan3 at startup and none do. |
| 18:26.39 | grimeton | those bitches |
| 18:26.50 | exploit-mcurran | only wlan2 and wlan3 and both are the same device using similar modules to run the same chip |
| 18:26.57 | sjamaan | exploit-mcurran: Try out wicd-curses, it's a lot friendlier and straightforward |
| 18:27.25 | sjamaan | Once everything's set up I think you can also use wicd-cli to bring the network up or down |
| 18:27.27 | exploit-mcurran | I am using wicd on the side with wicd-gtk, but that doesn't help me bring them up when the networking service starts up |
| 18:27.48 | sjamaan | Doesn't wicd interfere with wpa-supplicant? |
| 18:27.53 | exploit-mcurran | Is there a gnome-shell extension that replaces nm-applet with wicd-client? |
| 18:28.38 | tete_ | solution was to drop the user, then dont create it, instead directly use: GRANT ALL PRIVILEGES ON wordpress.* to 'wordpress'@'localhost' IDENTIFIED BY 'mypass'; |
| 18:28.42 | tete_ | its working now like a charm :) |
| 18:28.44 | exploit-mcurran | I don't have wpa_supplicant turned on at the moment, can you take a look at my device list and let meknow if anything points out at you? |
| 18:28.45 | abrotman | a) why not use n-m? b) what's in your interfaces file ? |
| 18:29.12 | exploit-mcurran | I would prefer to use nm, but I broke it somehow, because the devices are showing up in there, but say unmanaged. |
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| 18:29.46 | exploit-mcurran | I tried reinstalling the network-manager nm and all networking packages that came by default, but it didn't help |
| 18:30.02 | sjamaan | Are you using nonfree firmware? Maybe something went wrong with that |
| 18:30.04 | abrotman | right, so what's in your interfaces file ? |
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| 18:30.10 | theBat | Throwing out a quick question here: does anyone here have any experience with the Nvidia Geforce GTX 770 card, under Debian? |
| 18:30.35 | exploit-mcurran | I use this box for pentesting purposes and network security knowledge, so I'ts very important I get these working nicely, especially since I don't have compiz anymore, there has to be some reason for my to use linux... :) |
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| 18:31.09 | exploit-mcurran | I have experience installing the latest kernel and nvidia driver for gtx 660 |
| 18:31.18 | exploit-mcurran | could show you my exact howto link if you'd like |
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| 18:32.05 | exploit-mcurran | you'll need to patch the driver if using an earlier source or the kernel source itself. my howto is written up perfectly |
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| 18:32.45 | theBat | That would be great |
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| 18:34.55 | exploit-mcurran | TheBat: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/608747/nvidia-driver-and-linux-git/?offset=20 (second to last post) |
| 18:35.06 | exploit-mcurran | works pissah |
| 18:35.42 | exploit-mcurran | make sure that when you make menuconfig on the new kernel, turn off all nvidia-related framebuffers, or the module will fail to build |
| 18:35.54 | theBat | exploit-mcurran: thanks a lot! |
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| 18:42.26 | stomach | Successfully installed XEN on Debian 7. But the command "xsconsole" does not work... Through the XenCenter console does not appear |
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| 18:42.51 | abrotman | !doesn't work |
| 18:42.51 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
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| 18:44.43 | stomach | Successfully installed XEN on Debian 7. But the command "xsconsole" does not work... |
| 18:44.58 | stomach | xsconsole no exist |
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| 18:46.15 | jordanm | ,file xsconsole |
| 18:46.19 | judd | No packages in wheezy/i386 were found with that file. |
| 18:47.03 | jordanm | stomach: looks like that's part of xenserver |
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| 18:47.55 | bbtech_ | I hate running these magical auto installers (like hplip) |
| 18:48.02 | bbtech_ | I always feel like it is breaking my system |
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| 18:48.20 | jordanm | bbtech_: don't run them as root |
| 18:48.26 | bbtech_ | jordanm, it's a requirement |
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| 18:48.43 | jordanm | bbtech_: most of the time they will do the right thing and install in your home directory |
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| 18:50.07 | bbtech_ | jordanm, for me it's giving errors about not support debian 7.2 only 7.1 and then using --force-yes with apt-get |
| 18:50.15 | anigma | Howdy. I'm having some difficulties removing 'screendump' from my system. I did a 'apt-file search screendump' and figured out kbd should be responsible for 'screendump'. When trying to remove kbd it automatically tries to install console-tools and vice versa. Which basically installs 'screendump' again. Why does this happen? |
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| 18:51.35 | jordanm | anigma: something on your system probably depends on console-utilities, which both "provide" |
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| 18:53.10 | stomach | jordanm: http://forums.citrix.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/508-339657-1775820-48062/xcperror.png |
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| 18:54.01 | jordanm | stomach: xenserver != xen |
| 18:54.14 | stomach | hm |
| 18:54.15 | stomach | yes |
| 18:54.20 | jordanm | well, they both use xen for virtualization, but xsenserver is a stack on top of xen |
| 18:54.21 | stomach | sorry |
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| 18:54.42 | stomach | xen no exist console ? |
| 18:54.54 | anigma | jordanm: how would I find what packages depend on? |
| 18:54.55 | stomach | xsconsole |
| 18:55.03 | jordanm | stomach: "xm console" |
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| 18:55.11 | anigma | uh, that was not a good sentence... |
| 18:55.29 | jordanm | anigma: you can try "aptitude why console-utilities", but I'm not sure if that works with virtual packages |
| 18:55.33 | stomach | ((jordanm)): ERROR: A different toolstack (xapi) have been selected! |
| 18:55.35 | jordanm | anigma: aptitude why kbd might also help |
| 18:55.51 | jordanm | stomach: #xen |
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| 18:58.21 | julius_ | hi |
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| 19:00.36 | adam__ | hello |
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| 19:01.39 | julius_ | installing wheezy on a laptop, installer asked where to install grub. i didnt specify a device and just hit continue.....since theres already another system that boots with grub. but stll the installer did display "update-grub" and did take some seconds to run it. does this mean update-grub decided on its on where to install? |
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| 19:01.51 | abrotman | julius_: yes |
| 19:02.14 | Han | grmbl vlc doesn>:-( |
| 19:02.18 | Han | grmbl vlc doesn't work >:-( |
| 19:02.18 | julius_ | hm, thats bad |
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| 19:02.38 | Han | And my ' is too close to my RET key. |
| 19:03.16 | anigma | jordanm: much obliged. 'aptitude why kbd' did the trick |
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| 19:17.02 | exploit-mcurran | Let me know how it goes for you TheBat. I know compiling all the kernel modules is a pain, so if i had the motivation to do it again, I'd fix a few adjustments to fix aircrack's --ignore-negative-one, get my b43 working correctly and a bunch of other adjustments. I just always feel the need to include as many modules as necessary which causes more problems than good in my experience. |
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| 19:31.05 | lullablu | looked for jockey package (additional drivers) in synaptic but didnt find it. i just installed debian 7.2 lxde and everything is working fine except wifi. i need to be connected by cable to have internet working. wifi does not work |
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| 19:32.36 | DrivenMad | is the dd command used to write disk images to a hard drive? or is it jsut for copying files over? in otherwords do i have to make the partions manually when pushing a openwrt image over? |
| 19:33.06 | DrivenMad | the guides say dd if=/test.img of=/dev/hda |
| 19:33.25 | DrivenMad | but i get disk is full errors |
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| 19:35.29 | riceandbeans | I never thought I'd be one to ask this, because of how much of a privacy advocate I am, but believe me I have reason in asking this, is there a way to block a user on a network from using tor? |
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| 19:44.06 | lullablu | looked for jockey package (additional drivers) in synaptic but didnt find it. i just installed debian 7.2 lxde and everything is working fine except wifi. i need to be connected by cable to have internet working. wifi does not work. i am trying to migrate from ubuntu to debian. in ubuntu it was quite easy to solve the problem with "additional drivers" and installing the indicated driver. not sure how to proceed here. h |
| 19:46.32 | musca | hi lullablu |
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| 19:46.55 | jhutchins_wk | grimeton: I thought there would be something within the desktop to do that, but yeah, thanks, dpkg-reconfigure tzdata was the trick. |
| 19:46.59 | lullablu | musca: hi there, are you the expert i was hoping for? :) |
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| 19:47.15 | jhutchins_wk | Seems like it should be per-user, but oh well. |
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| 19:48.07 | musca | lullablu: Do you know your hardwar? which wireless chip do you use? |
| 19:48.32 | lullablu | dont know. what do i type in terminal to find out? |
| 19:48.41 | musca | lspci -nn | grep -i net |
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| 19:52.22 | lullablu | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.31 | musca | yes |
| 19:52.44 | lullablu | am i lucky or not? |
| 19:53.14 | musca | The driver is in the kernel, you will only need some firmware for it |
| 19:53.44 | lullablu | how do i get the firmware? |
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| 19:54.30 | musca | !ipw2200 |
| 19:54.30 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a Linux kernel driver supporting Intel PRO/Wireless 2200 (802.11bg) and 2915 (802.11a/bg) devices. Firmware is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-ipw2x00 package to provide. http://wiki.debian.org/ipw2200 #ipw2100 on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 19:55.29 | reavengrey | :) |
| 19:55.42 | musca | lullablu: two steps to go: (1) enable debians non-free repo |
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| 19:57.09 | brontosaurusrex | a recent/decent deboostrap guide url? |
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| 19:59.33 | tomatosalad | So, uh, this isn't explicitly debian, but has anybody who dualboots with OSX here used gdisk to sync their GPT and MBR? I cannot for the life of me understand how to do it |
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| 19:59.41 | tomatosalad | mainly because I don't understand GPT |
| 19:59.45 | tomatosalad | or MBR, for that matter |
| 19:59.49 | lullablu | musca: forgive my beginnerness, how do i enable debians non-free repo ? :) |
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| 20:00.23 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell lullablu -about non-free sources |
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| 20:01.22 | musca | lullablu: do you see what dpkg just said to you? a fine explanation |
| 20:02.18 | lullablu | i am looking here https://wiki.debian.org/DebianSoftware#Non-Free_Software_.28e.g._Adobe.27s_Flash.29 |
| 20:02.25 | lullablu | but not sure |
| 20:02.36 | lullablu | forgive my ubuntuness i should say |
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| 20:03.18 | Leoneof | hello, just curious question, is it possible to use wayland instead of xorg? |
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| 20:04.40 | lullablu | musca: what was step 2 ? |
| 20:05.00 | musca | install the firmware-ipw2x00 package |
| 20:05.04 | petn-randall | lullablu: Did you read the instructions about enabling non-free that dpkg sent you? |
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| 20:06.12 | lullablu | petn-randall: i did just now, sorry. ok i get it |
| 20:06.44 | petn-randall | lullablu: No problem :). do 'apt-get instlal firmware-ipw2x00' after that. |
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| 20:08.54 | lullablu | ok, thank you all. was a bit scared of migrating to debian at first. but with this great support i think i will be able to say bye bye to ubuntu forever :) |
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| 20:11.30 | jhutchins_wk | Leoneof: I don't think it's been adopted into Debian yet. You could port it yourself, but it might not integrate well. |
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| 20:11.56 | Leoneof | jhutchins_wk: oh ok, thanks |
| 20:12.25 | jhutchins_wk | !weston |
| 20:12.26 | dpkg | Weston is the reference implementation of a <wayland> compositor (display server), developed by the Wayland project. Packaged in Debian <testing>. http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ #wayland on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 20:12.39 | jhutchins_wk | What do I know? |
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| 20:15.59 | tomatosalad | anybody have any idea why after installing cinnamon, startx starts GNOME? |
| 20:16.08 | tomatosalad | spammer |
| 20:16.11 | tomatosalad | woooo |
| 20:17.15 | musca | tomatosalad: because the early versions of cinnamon heavily depend on gnome3 |
| 20:17.34 | tomatosalad | yeah, I know that |
| 20:17.39 | tomatosalad | but, uh, wtf is oging on? |
| 20:17.49 | tomatosalad | this was a fresh install last night |
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| 20:18.31 | musca | tomatosalad: did gdm provide a listbox to choose the windowmanager? |
| 20:18.37 | tomatosalad | uh, no |
| 20:18.57 | tomatosalad | all I did was apt-get install cinnamon and then apt-get install xorg, startx, and then GNOME |
| 20:19.05 | tomatosalad | no config options, no nuthin' |
| 20:19.23 | exploit-mcurran | yes, and so does mdm in LMDE, hence which is why I want to install another gnome2 environment alongside gnome3 so I can have my old compiz back, withouth breaking shit. |
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| 20:20.38 | musca | exploit-mcurran: please stay on topic, there is no gnome2 in debian |
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| 20:22.23 | musca | tomatosalad: i think gnome became default while it was installed. you should check if you can choose cinnamon in the login dialog |
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| 20:23.18 | tomatosalad | what login dialog? I don't think X starts automatically |
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| 20:23.22 | tomatosalad | I can try it, hang on, let me reboot |
| 20:23.37 | tomatosalad | brb |
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| 20:30.13 | Kromitvs | Hy. With the new version of Debian (Squeeze) the coretemp paths changed. Can someone point me to the annoucement of the change, or at least what I should be looking for? |
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| 20:32.21 | abrotman | Kromitvs: that doesn't seem likely .. sounds more like part of your system is now wheezy? |
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| 20:34.39 | Kromitvs | abrotman: sorry, always get those names mixed. I menat Wheezy. |
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| 20:35.23 | nkuttler | Kromitvs: /usr/share/doc/<package>, see the readme or news file if there are any |
| 20:35.27 | Kromitvs | I update from squeeze to wheezy |
| 20:36.25 | Kromitvs | thanks |
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| 20:38.40 | vmiimu | Hi - I'm trying to set a custom prompt globally in Wheezy by using /etc/bash.bashrc -- however I don't see the changes when I login via. ssh (don't know about local since I'm remote) -- any advice? |
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| 20:39.36 | rudi_s | vmiimu: It's best to configure your shell through configuration files in ~/, not globally because it may conflict with setups of other users. |
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| 20:40.41 | vmiimu | Noted for best practice scenario but since it's a personal box so I'm not worried about such conflicts. Also this is more learning exercise. |
| 20:40.52 | rudi_s | I'm not 100% sure if a login shell also sources /etc/bash.bashrc or only /etc/profile. |
| 20:40.57 | rudi_s | Is anything from /etc/bash.bashrc executed? |
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| 20:41.12 | rudi_s | (It also makes it easier to share your configuration because you can copy your ~/.bashrc everywhere. |
| 20:41.23 | petn-randall | vmiimu: Check the man page to /etc/profile and /etc/bash.bashrc. |
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| 20:42.33 | crit | hi all. i'm looking for something that can log all commands executed by root on a system. any tips? |
| 20:43.14 | abrotman | judd: info acct |
| 20:43.15 | judd | Package acct (admin, optional) in wheezy/i386: The GNU Accounting utilities for process and login accounting. Version: 6.5.5-1; Size: 105.6k; Installed: 360k; Homepage: http://www.gnu.org/software/acct/ |
| 20:43.17 | abrotman | maybe? |
| 20:44.05 | crit | judd, thanks! i'll check it out |
| 20:44.25 | crit | used to something like sudosh on rhel |
| 20:44.32 | crit | which you can replay stuff on |
| 20:44.47 | crit | maybe this stuff can do the magic too |
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| 21:10.11 | stomach | "xm console" -> ERROR: A different toolstack (xapi) have been selected! |
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| 21:12.11 | Mr_Queue | could someone nick me please. |
| 21:12.18 | Mr_Queue | playing within hilights |
| 21:12.55 | WcktKlwn | Mr_Queue: hello |
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| 21:13.37 | SlaSerX | hi where i can find valide source list for debian 5 |
| 21:13.41 | SlaSerX | lenny |
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| 21:14.17 | Mr_Queue | Thanks WcktKlwn |
| 21:14.59 | WcktKlwn | np Mr_Queue |
| 21:15.05 | stomach | XEN problem... not work xconsole: ~#xm console -> ERROR: A different toolstack (xapi) have been selected! |
| 21:15.12 | smaudet | Could someone verify for me the following: I have the output of lshw which tells me I have two 4 GB DRAM modules installed, for a total of 8 GB, but when I run cat /proc/mem, it tells me that only 4 GB is available. Does this mean that one of the sticks is bad, and if so, is there a good indication for this? |
| 21:15.21 | abrotman | smaudet: uname -a |
| 21:15.31 | abrotman | well, really just need uname -r |
| 21:16.14 | WcktKlwn | don't you want uname -p? |
| 21:17.31 | abrotman | waits for smaudet |
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| 21:17.46 | smaudet | abrotman, thanks, will investigate |
| 21:18.04 | abrotman | smaudet: you didn't tell us what it is |
| 21:18.21 | abrotman | smaudet: I suspect you're running the -486 kernel ? |
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| 21:18.40 | smaudet | abrotman, its an ancient kernel |
| 21:18.42 | smaudet | '2.6.32-5-amd64' |
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| 21:19.37 | smaudet | Is the kernel the problem? |
| 21:19.45 | abrotman | smaudet: install the linux-image-amd64 package |
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| 21:22.32 | smaudet | abrotman, done |
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| 21:23.21 | smaudet | abrotman, no change so far with the memory or the kernel version (obviously for the latter) |
| 21:23.27 | abrotman | smaudet: did it install anything else? |
| 21:23.32 | smaudet | abrotman, nope |
| 21:23.48 | abrotman | smaudet: apt-cache search linux-image ; please pastebin that |
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| 21:24.30 | smaudet | http://pastebin.com/9mGsfSi5 |
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| 21:24.57 | abrotman | that kernel should support 8GB RAM .. |
| 21:25.06 | abrotman | does the BIOS see all 8GB? |
| 21:25.11 | smaudet | erm |
| 21:25.14 | smaudet | cmd? |
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| 21:25.20 | abrotman | reboot? look at the BIOS |
| 21:25.20 | smaudet | lshw sees two 4GB sticks |
| 21:25.35 | abrotman | smaudet: cat /proc/meminfo .. pastebin please |
| 21:26.46 | smaudet | abrotman, http://pastebin.com/Q4W2aTNB |
| 21:27.09 | abrotman | smaudet: look through the 'dmesg' output for a hint |
| 21:28.18 | smaudet | abrotman, only thing that looks slightly weird is some iomem ranges which say they cannot be reserved |
| 21:28.28 | abrotman | that's probably normal |
| 21:30.45 | smaudet | abrotman, where it says "registered no-save memory" it's talking about DRAM, right? |
| 21:31.10 | abrotman | i'm not sure, probably need context |
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| 21:32.06 | smaudet | here's the dump I'm looking at (output of dmesg | grep -i mem): http://pastebin.com/AyS4iwGZ |
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| 21:33.13 | abrotman | smaudet: i'd check your BIOS, reboot the OS, enter the BIOS, see how much it says |
| 21:34.11 | smaudet | abrotman, well it could be that the memory stick is just bad, had a crash a day or so ago where the bios was complaining of an unrecoverable ECC error, don't know if that means the stick is bad though |
| 21:34.19 | smaudet | booted up again so I thought it might be ok |
| 21:34.46 | smaudet | Its not ancient memory or anything, its DDR3 SuperTalent |
| 21:35.01 | DrivenMad | maybe a boot with memtest and run the ram through the ringger.. it will let you know :) |
| 21:35.24 | abrotman | smaudet: age is irrelevant |
| 21:36.03 | DrivenMad | i ahve gotten bad ram right from the box before, i always bench test ram now when i get it before use :) |
| 21:37.04 | smaudet | abrotman, DrivenMad thanks. Will have to just test the RAM onsite then I guess. Bit of a pain, can't just pop the memory out. |
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| 21:38.12 | smaudet | Your inability to help has been helpfull. :) |
| 21:38.27 | abrotman | sorry :) |
| 21:38.35 | abrotman | i did tell you that your kernel should support 8GB |
| 21:38.48 | abrotman | if you know the motherboard model, you could check online before you go onsite .. lshw may have that for you |
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| 21:40.33 | smaudet | abrotman, not a problem: http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/Opteron6100/SR56x0/H8SGL-F.cfm don't see how that'd help me |
| 21:40.47 | smaudet | It should support up to 256 GB ram so its not the mobo ;) |
| 21:41.02 | abrotman | okay, check the BIOS then |
| 21:41.26 | smaudet | abrotman, no way to do that remotely, right? |
| 21:41.34 | smaudet | bioscheckutil? |
| 21:41.36 | abrotman | smaudet: do you have an iLO or similar? |
| 21:41.40 | DrivenMad | Side note, for random goofy shit to read.. just watch the public pastes on pastbin.. lol updates like every 2 seconds.. :) |
| 21:41.45 | abrotman | smaudet: is this a Lenny box? |
| 21:41.52 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 21:41.53 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.12-rc7-686-pae (3.12~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 3.11-1-686-pae (3.11.6-2); jessie: 3.10-3-686-pae (3.10.11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.10-0.bpo.3-686-pae (3.10.11-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.51-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
| 21:42.04 | abrotman | oh . squeeze I suppose |
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| 21:42.25 | abrotman | smaudet: note that squeeze will likely only have security support for another 5-6 months |
| 21:42.30 | smaudet | abrotman, yeah, need to update the kernel/distro at some point, but as this is a prod box I don't like to mess with it a whole lot |
| 21:43.25 | smaudet | abrotman, and no I don't think I have an iLo on the box |
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| 21:44.27 | smaudet | unfortunately |
| 21:45.45 | smaudet | thanks anyways |
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| 21:46.47 | vmiimu | Hi -- still struggling with getting some ps1 settings to apply globally (even ssh) can anyone point me in the right direction as to which files I should be looking to edit. |
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| 21:47.22 | vmiimu | Story so far -- I tried /etc/bash.bashrc (this works only for su not ssh) and /etc/profile (which didn't enable the changes I was looking for) |
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| 21:48.29 | abrotman | vmiimu: you have one in your $HOME also |
| 21:49.06 | vmiimu | abrotman - I can sucessfully do this per user but I'm trying to apply the changes globally w/out messing w/ home for each user |
| 21:50.06 | abrotman | but the user one would overwrite it ? |
| 21:50.49 | vmiimu | overwriting is acceptable too but by default i want my changes to show |
| 21:51.53 | vmiimu | abortman here's what I wan to happen by default http://lifehacker.com/5840450/add-a-handy-separator-between-commands-in-your-terminal-on-mac-os-x-and-linux |
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| 21:54.12 | abrotman | seems to be well laid out ? |
| 21:54.44 | ompaul | vmiimu: so in /etc/profile you have done something? |
| 21:54.59 | ompaul | vmiimu: what did you do |
| 21:55.00 | vmiimu | abortman - yea it works well per user if i add it to each profile but how can i make that the default behaviour for all users (unless intentionally overridden) |
| 21:55.31 | ompaul | vmiimu: if you set something in /etc/profile the next time they log in they get that value change |
| 21:55.42 | vmiimu | ompaul - so far I've edited /etc/bash.bashrc to load the script and it works as long as I su <user> vs. ssh (ssh doesn't work) |
| 21:55.54 | vmiimu | edititing /etc/profile made no difference |
| 21:56.04 | ompaul | vmiimu: did they log out and in again |
| 21:56.22 | ompaul | vmiimu: are you saying the test was from someone logging in remotely? |
| 21:56.23 | vmiimu | ompaul yes |
| 21:56.39 | vmiimu | ompaul - yes relogon / yes remote |
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| 21:56.48 | ompaul | login locally? |
| 21:57.12 | ompaul | did any of them login locally? |
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| 21:57.21 | vmiimu | ompaul system is remote so only ssh but i'm emulating local login via su |
| 21:57.28 | vmiimu | no local login |
| 21:57.37 | vmiimu | and yes script does load when i su |
| 21:57.39 | super3 | i remember an article about some tool that would allow attackers to login to a fake shell with ssh, anyone know this tool was? |
| 21:57.50 | ompaul | vmiimu: what shell are they loading on login? |
| 21:58.07 | vmiimu | ompual - /bin/bash |
| 21:58.10 | smash___ | hey guys |
| 21:58.16 | ompaul | vmiimu: are you sure? |
| 21:58.18 | smash___ | ive a simple question |
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| 21:58.35 | vmiimu | ompaul - yes i just echo $SHELL |
| 21:58.36 | smash___ | id like to send emails to my email account, when a cronjob is finshied |
| 21:58.41 | smash___ | finished |
| 21:58.47 | smash___ | but the mail doesnt get delivered |
| 21:59.15 | smash___ | is there any howto, which describes how to configure any mta to just send mails? |
| 21:59.39 | smash___ | (im not very familar with mail servers themself) |
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| 22:00.31 | ompaul | vmiimu: grep username /etc/passwd and what do you get |
| 22:01.05 | ompaul | vmiimu: you are aware that /bin/sh is not /bin/bash |
| 22:01.24 | vmiimu | vmi:x:1000:1000:vmi,,,:/home/vmi:/bin/bash |
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| 22:02.12 | vmiimu | ompaul -- if i "source mycustomthing.sh" the changes show up so it's just not "auto loading" for all usres by default |
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| 22:02.35 | ompaul | vmiimu: how do you call it in /etc/profile ? |
| 22:04.43 | vmiimu | i used an if block -- https://gist.github.com/vmiimu/7284009 |
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| 22:05.03 | ompaul | vmiimu: I was hoping to see /usr/local/bin/ but I guess you share that directory with all users ;-) you point users at git? |
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| 22:06.41 | ompaul | vmiimu: suggestion put mycustomthing.sh in /usr/local/bin put full path in /etc/profile move on :) |
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| 22:15.00 | vmiimu | ompaul -- i did as you suggested by moving the script to /usr/local/bin and calling it from /etc/profile but it's not loading. is there some better place to call it from to make sure i see the changes via ssh. |
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| 22:15.53 | ompaul | vmiimu: you have the shell script there? |
| 22:16.03 | ompaul | vmiimu: ls -al it please |
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| 22:16.05 | Filar | hi |
| 22:16.49 | ompaul | Filar: you have a debian question? |
| 22:16.56 | Filar | how come monodevelop-monogame is in stable and unstable, but not in testing? Is testing worse in any way than the two others? |
| 22:17.03 | Filar | ompaul: yes, I do :) |
| 22:17.35 | ompaul | Filar: no, it's not worse, testing gets stuff from SID, later it goes to stable |
| 22:18.03 | ompaul | Filar: there are times it gets out of sync so it is removed when transitions are taking place |
| 22:18.13 | ompaul | it can take a short or long time (transitions) |
| 22:18.19 | Filar | ok then |
| 22:18.26 | mumpitze1 | Filar: http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/monogame.html |
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| 22:21.05 | vmiimu | yes script is there - ls -al /usr/local/bin -- -rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 1199 Nov 2 15:11 bash_ps1.sh |
| 22:21.23 | ompaul | like to give it the ability to execute? |
| 22:21.48 | ompaul | by root, group and others |
| 22:21.57 | ompaul | chmod +x |
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| 22:23.58 | vmiimu | ompaul -- still nothing when I login via ssh -rwxr-xr-x 1 root staff 1199 Nov 2 15:11 bash_ps1.sh |
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| 22:25.04 | ompaul | vmiimu: and what is the exact line in /etc/profile ( |
| 22:27.02 | Filar | and I have another question: my sources list are: http://mysticpaste.com/view/g75zUfcnaL?2 I think the non-free packages are enabled there. Why do I not see Steam when I search for it? I have updated apt. |
| 22:27.39 | vmiimu | ompaul - https://gist.github.com/vmiimu/7284179 |
| 22:28.25 | ompaul | vmiimu: sorry, what's wrong with pasting the line from /etc/profile in channel |
| 22:28.39 | ompaul | it's only one line |
| 22:28.40 | vmiimu | # A custom command line searator if [ -f "/usr/local/bin/bash_ps1.sh" ]; then . "/usr/local/bin/bash_ps1.sh" fi |
| 22:29.21 | ompaul | stupid question, why not this exactly this on a line /usr/local/bin/bash_ps1.sh |
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| 22:30.10 | DrivenMad | Filar : you can jsut get the .deb file from steam and install it :) |
| 22:31.02 | DrivenMad | http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb |
| 22:31.05 | Filar | yeah, but in the future I will propably need more non-free packages and I will ahve to fetch them from the site everytime |
| 22:31.14 | DrivenMad | gotcha |
| 22:31.50 | vmiimu | ompaul - i removed the if block as you suggested and still changes aren't showing up. |
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| 22:33.48 | Filar | solved - I had to enable i386 architecture :) |
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| 22:34.14 | DrivenMad | awesome :) |
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| 22:35.26 | ompaul | vmiimu: no idea if the script works ... it should work when called unless inside the script you need to specify paths also |
| 22:36.31 | vmiimu | ompaul -- here's the script https://github.com/emilis/emilis-config/blob/master/.bash_ps1 |
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| 22:36.49 | vmiimu | ompaul -- it works when i invoke it manually i.e. source script.sh |
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| 22:38.10 | ompaul | vmiimu: do this log in and type bash_ps1.sh no other items i.e. no path no source tell me if it works |
| 22:38.10 | quinso | Hello. How can I enable WebGl in chromium in debian jessie? |
| 22:38.12 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 22:38.32 | Filar | exit |
| 22:38.38 | ShapeShifter499 | I have a 64bit processor but not a amd one, do I still use the amd64 version anyways? |
| 22:39.28 | quinso | ShapeShifter499: You don't have to but that would be best, yes. |
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| 22:41.29 | vmiimu | ompaul -- running it from user home ie ~ .. "bash_ps1.sh" nothing happens |
| 22:41.45 | julius_ | hi |
| 22:41.51 | ompaul | so the script is not internally right |
| 22:42.00 | ompaul | it needs something --- be it a path or something |
| 22:42.19 | julius_ | just installed a wheezy 7.2 on my laptop, when on battery the drive is spinning down and up every few seconds....what is going in here? |
| 22:42.34 | vmiimu | ompual - ok thanks will dig in |
| 22:42.39 | ompaul | typing source filename only means that for the current session things your env is aware of it |
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| 22:44.11 | ShapeShifter499 | quinso, cool, wasn't sure because I never had a non amd 64 bit processor before, just bought a new computer that has a 64 bit compatible celeron |
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| 22:50.14 | arcana | hi, after an update, gdm3 wont let me in. Black screen appears and then again the gdm3 login window. Any ideas? |
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| 22:51.50 | musca | arcana: are you using unstable? |
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| 22:52.57 | arcana | nope, stable |
| 22:53.05 | rypervenche | Hi all. I'm helping a friend install a kernel/headers from wheezy-backports and curiously enough nothing is building properly with dkms now, here is one example: http://paste.debian.net/63587/ . Any ideas what I can do to resolve this? |
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| 22:54.03 | arcana | well, I tried to open a terminal and then login there, went ok. after startx, crash |
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| 22:56.46 | arcana | musca, I see a log in Xorg.1.log, there is a segmentation fault |
| 22:57.37 | arcana | when loading, I can see the nvidia logo and gdm3 shows in good resolution, but might it be the graphic card drivers? |
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| 22:58.21 | musca | you can paste the log in http://paste.debian.net |
| 22:58.48 | musca | which driver version and which card is it? |
| 23:01.54 | arcana | nvidia 560ti, the driver is nvidia propietary 5 months ago |
| 23:02.05 | arcana | how can I pastebin a file? |
| 23:03.36 | syeekick | could someone help my friend rypervenche, if you help him it systematically will help me :) |
| 23:03.37 | musca | !pastebinit |
| 23:03.37 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
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| 23:04.51 | arcana | I was doing pastebin instead pastebinit... that's why :) |
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| 23:05.44 | crit | for some reason i can't reach ircnet.. ok, havent been on there for 10ish years but.. is it down? |
| 23:05.44 | ExeciN | Thunar can't mount my microSD card and crashes. How can I manage the files in my card? |
| 23:05.46 | arcana | musca http://paste.debian.net/63589 |
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| 23:06.05 | reisio | ExeciN: it always crashes? |
| 23:06.27 | ExeciN | reisio: yes, every time I try to browse the card |
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| 23:07.29 | musca | arcana: see lines 138 - 142 |
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| 23:08.03 | reisio | so without /etc/apt/sources.list, apt just fails? |
| 23:08.16 | arcana | musca: thanks a lot |
| 23:09.06 | ctmjr | arcana, kernel updates break the nvidia driver from their website every time you update the kernel you will have to reinstall the driver |
| 23:09.51 | ExeciN | reisio: nevermind, I unmounted the partition and thunar was able to mount and browse inside |
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| 23:10.02 | reisio | ExeciN: :) |
| 23:10.11 | arcana | I didn't knew, great info, thanks again. |
| 23:13.01 | musca | arcana: you can avoid this problem by using dkms |
| 23:13.09 | musca | !nvidia dkms |
| 23:13.09 | dpkg | For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. |
| 23:15.58 | arcana | musca: once the problem has been identified... :) |
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| 23:16.11 | arcana | well, driver reinstalled, everything works fine |
| 23:16.26 | arcana | thank you very very much musca, you saved the day! |
| 23:16.55 | musca | yw |
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| 23:22.26 | musca | syeekick: rypervenche: do you really need the sta driver? |
| 23:22.35 | musca | !broadcom-sta |
| 23:22.36 | dpkg | Broadcom's proprietary wireless LAN driver (wl, aka broadcom-sta) supports devices based on the BCM4312 LP-PHY and BCM4313/4321/4322/43224/43225/43227/43228 chips. To install (amd64 and i386 only), see http://wiki.debian.org/wl . Since Debian 7 "Wheezy", this driver creates wireless interfaces with the 'wlan' prefix (see NEWS.Debian.gz). Most chips are also supported by the open source <b43> and <brcmsmac> drivers. |
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| 23:23.28 | hamush | !ia32-libs |
| 23:23.28 | dpkg | ia32-* packages provide a subset of libraries from <i386> for <amd64> systems. They are typically needed by 32-bit only software (such as <skype> or <wine>) and have been obsoleted in Debian 7 "Wheezy" by the introduction of <multiarch>. Wheezy users should ask me about <upgrade ia32 libs> for upgrade instructions. |
| 23:23.32 | musca | syeekick: rypervenche: there are alternative drivers in the newer kernels |
| 23:23.41 | hamush | !update ia32 libs |
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| 23:23.46 | hamush | !upgrate ia32 libs |
| 23:23.51 | hamush | !upgrade ia32 libs |
| 23:23.51 | dpkg | The process of upgrading ia32* libraries to <multiarch> in <wheezy> is detailed in http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading#ia32libs . See http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new#multiarch and http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO for further details. |
| 23:23.56 | syeekick | he will be with yuo shortly musca |
| 23:24.07 | syeekick | im too newbie to answer your question |
| 23:24.13 | musca | ok |
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| 23:25.09 | rypervenche | syeekick: lol, I can see the messages, you don't need to be my secretary, :P |
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| 23:26.25 | rypervenche | musca: I read that this specific GPU would crash when using Radeon drivers, so we tried fglrx. I suppose we can try to go all open-source on everything, but I was just curious to know what would cause the modules to not build properly with a newer kernel. |
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| 23:27.18 | musca | rypervenche: fglrx on newest kernels has always been a pain. |
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| 23:27.41 | jzk1 | fglrx has always been a pain period |
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| 23:27.54 | reavengrey | fglrx is the bomb |
| 23:27.56 | reavengrey | gtfo |
| 23:28.02 | reavengrey | lrn2drivers |
| 23:28.34 | rypervenche | musca: Then let's try to get more to the point. Would the backlight brightness and control of that be available in radeon and not in fglrx? He is unable to change the backlight and can't see the screen. I see no backlight in /sys/class either. |
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| 23:30.00 | musca | rypervenche: the free radeon driver needs the package firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 23:30.59 | rypervenche | musca: Ok. Thank you. |
| 23:31.02 | musca | rypervenche: from same repo (backports in this case) |
| 23:31.46 | _guitarman_ | 1~/away bbl |
| 23:33.56 | rypervenche | musca: We're going to stick with the stable kernel I think, unless we need it. |
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| 23:39.51 | musca | rypervenche: yeah, that's the idea behind a stable release. |
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| 23:42.01 | dca- | hi |
| 23:42.25 | dca- | libgl1-nvidia-glx package configuration hangs. |
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| 23:42.26 | dca- | can i get some more logging from it? |
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| 23:50.28 | Lope | I want my grub to boot the same as what I booted last time. |
| 23:51.18 | ShapeShifter499 | guys which is the newest? |
| 23:51.18 | ShapeShifter499 | <tnzr> do you have that in one of those crate mining rigs? |
| 23:51.18 | ShapeShifter499 | <holmes> I am going to make an 8 card rig but I have to Schmooze my sister in order to set it up at her house |
| 23:51.18 | ShapeShifter499 | <tnzr> is it profitable for you, given the costs? |
| 23:51.18 | ShapeShifter499 | <holmes> yep, power is only 8.5 cents a Kw here |
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| 23:51.23 | Lope | I saw a guide online that said I need GRUB_DEFAULT=saved and GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true... but at the moment I have "set default=0"... very diff syntax? s it ok? |
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| 23:51.31 | ShapeShifter499 | <ShapeShifter499> .ticker |
| 23:51.33 | ShapeShifter499 | <lg-sentry> USD/BTC: $204.56 USD/LTC: $2.582 BTC/LTC: 0.01284 |
| 23:51.35 | ShapeShifter499 | <holmes> I will when it is worth enough to get more hardware |
| 23:51.37 | ShapeShifter499 | <padrino> .ticker |
| 23:51.39 | ShapeShifter499 | <lg-sentry> USD/BTC: $204.56 USD/LTC: $2.582 BTC/LTC: 0.01284 |
| 23:51.41 | ShapeShifter499 | <ShapeShifter499> .ticker |
| 23:51.43 | ShapeShifter499 | <lg-sentry> USD/BTC: $204.56 USD/LTC: $2.582 BTC/LTC: 0.01284 |
| 23:51.45 | ShapeShifter499 | <holmes> unfortunately they are not all matching cards |
| 23:51.48 | ShapeShifter499 | crap |
| 23:51.49 | ShapeShifter499 | paste and copy error |
| 23:51.51 | reavengrey | What are you doing |
| 23:51.52 | ShapeShifter499 | sorry guys |
| 23:52.17 | ShapeShifter499 | tried to paste a link, ended up pasting half my log to #litecoin by mistake |
| 23:52.45 | ShapeShifter499 | anyways... |
| 23:52.52 | ShapeShifter499 | what is newer? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
| 23:52.55 | reavengrey | shitcoin has a bunch people in a frenzy to buy up 4 byte values in a database on somebody's server |
| 23:53.00 | ShapeShifter499 | there are three iso? |
| 23:53.03 | reavengrey | Don't get it |
| 23:53.06 | reavengrey | Whatever floats your boar |
| 23:53.08 | reavengrey | *boat |
| 23:53.52 | ShapeShifter499 | reavengrey, when you can make a profit who cares? |
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