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| 00:02.18 | tomatosalad | What's the story on getting new firmware in nonfree? I got my wifi working, but I had to use b43-fwcutter :} |
| 00:02.21 | tomatosalad | er |
| 00:02.23 | tomatosalad | :| |
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| 00:03.08 | themill | tomatosalad: istr the b43 firmware is not redistributable so it can't be in non-free, only the downloader can be in debian |
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| 00:04.39 | tomatosalad | well, ok, then the downloader. Why won't it grab it? |
| 00:05.05 | tomatosalad | it works as of 3.2, according to kernel.org |
| 00:05.10 | tomatosalad | for the BCM4331 |
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| 00:05.59 | themill | why won't what grab what? |
| 00:06.53 | tomatosalad | the BCM4331 firmware. there's only 5 listed chipsets here, yet there are more that clearly work http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-b43-installer |
| 00:07.37 | hikenboot | anyone know of any known issues where debian 7 virtual machine accepts no passwords off and on ? |
| 00:07.56 | hikenboot | debian 7 machine is running in vmware esx5i |
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| 00:16.29 | kylethebaker | im trying to install debian using the netinstaller from a usb drive. im able to select my keyboard layout and language, then it flashes detecting hw and im left with a blank but responsive screen |
| 00:16.51 | kylethebaker | responsive as in i can type and see the text, and also use control+alt+delete to issue a sigterm and reboot |
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| 00:17.38 | kylethebaker | but it just hangs here. i can all send a sigint and ill see the detecting hw dialog flash again and put me right back where i was. anyone have any ideas? |
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| 00:21.02 | nell | I'm running KDE on Debian and my kdialog is taking way longer than usual to save and download files from the net [save picture as] |
| 00:22.29 | dvs | kylethebaker: I'd try the Debian live image and see if that will boo |
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| 00:22.43 | dvs | t |
| 00:23.12 | kylethebaker | dvs: i made some progress, its non-free firmware for my wireless card |
| 00:23.33 | dvs | kylethebaker: Then I'd use the firmware image. |
| 00:23.42 | sybariten | disk tech recap: when making partitions in for instance fdisk.... do i give them a file systen? |
| 00:23.53 | sybariten | or is that more of a formatting issue |
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| 00:44.11 | kylethebaker | sybariten: you can set the partition format but i think you still need to format them after the partition has been created |
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| 00:45.38 | zykotick9 | sybariten: in fdisk you just specify linux as the type (fyi, fdisk is basically the worst choice for partition creation - or so says "man fdisk") |
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| 00:46.42 | Lorcatar | I need the x development files. What is the name of that package? |
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| 00:47.19 | sybariten | i used gparted.... and got to choose file system type both for the partition and for the formatting.... confusing |
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| 00:48.05 | zykotick9 | sybariten: that's 'cause gparted does both partitioning and formatting, fdisk doesn't. |
| 00:49.34 | sybariten | yes, but... |
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| 00:50.02 | sybariten | what if id given the partition "ext2" as file system, and then tried to format it as ntfs, ? |
| 00:50.38 | zykotick9 | sybariten: ext2 is a filesystem, not a partition type? |
| 00:50.52 | sybariten | hmmm ok.... |
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| 00:58.38 | sybariten | well the drives ready anyhow.... |
| 00:59.08 | sybariten | next question: no realistic way of mounting a multipart bit stream image (clone), is there? |
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| 01:12.04 | dakota | Can anyone help me with configuring vsftpd? It keeps saying my login is incorrect when I try to connect |
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| 01:21.40 | trampel | dakota: are you running pam? (if gnome then likely yes), and if so in your conf file you have something akin to: pam_service_name=ftp ? |
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| 01:22.49 | dakota | trampel: I installed Debian without an X, server... I didn't even consider that, but I'll check |
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| 01:25.38 | dakota | trampel: It looks like I do... http://pastebin.com/D3APmu72 |
| 01:27.24 | trampel | dakota: i'm no pam expert (not remotely) i think it'll show up in a check of running processes: ps -ef | grep pam |
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| 01:28.33 | dakota | trampel: Nope... Didn't show up with ps ef or aux. Should I install it? |
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| 01:29.48 | trampel | dakota: i wouldn't. i've generally found it to be a pain. it's nonetheless worth checking your vsftpd.conf file against suggestions like these sort: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/vsftpd-530-login-incorrect-449432/ |
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| 01:34.12 | rabies | is there any way to disable SIGCHLD generation from SIGSTOP and SIGCONT? |
| 01:34.32 | trampel | dakota: good luck. i'm off to morpheus. |
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| 01:34.41 | dakota | trampel: Sorry, my dog knocked my charger out from my laptop and my battery sucks... Didn't realize what had happened when it died. What was the last thing you said? |
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| 01:35.03 | dakota | Aw dang... Can anybody else tell me what trampel said a minute ago? |
| 01:36.11 | dvs | <trampel> dakota: i wouldn't. i've generally found it to be a pain. it's nonetheless worth checking your vsftpd.conf file against suggestions like these sort: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/vsftpd-530-login-incorrect-449432/ |
| 01:36.23 | dvs | <trampel> dakota: good luck. i'm off to morpheus. |
| 01:36.28 | dakota | dvs: You're a lifesaver, thanks |
| 01:36.53 | dvs | np |
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| 01:52.05 | dakota | It seems like the fix in that thread doesn't work for me; /bin/bash was already in /etc/shells. |
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| 01:56.56 | RedRYder | To All; I want to stream my music to my grids in opensim. Does anyone know of a good easy to setup program to do this? |
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| 02:08.03 | RedRYder | To All; I want to stream my music to my grids in opensim. Does anyone know of a good easy to setup program to do this? |
| 02:08.19 | emss | dakota have you checked the vsftpd log? |
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| 02:08.30 | RedRYder | The what? |
| 02:09.10 | emss | music player daemon (mpd) |
| 02:09.22 | RedRYder | Where is this? |
| 02:09.49 | Racqueteering | idk |
| 02:09.57 | emss | xD |
| 02:09.59 | dakota | emss: Yeah, after looking at all the logs and bug reports I just decided to go with proftp. It's not really important that I use a particular FTP server |
| 02:10.52 | emss | dakota you could also try sftp? ftp using ssh |
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| 02:11.39 | dakota | emss: Yes, but security isn't a concern for me. Unless my little brother's finally figured out how to sniff wifi traffic, that is... |
| 02:12.12 | dakota | It's all going to be local. If it's not, then it will be routed through a SSH session to my main machine anyways |
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| 02:15.37 | emss | dakota well if you are already using ssh enabling sftp is just a configuration change ... |
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| 02:16.09 | jhutchins | y'know, there's really only one reason to run an ftp server these days, and it is't a good one. |
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| 02:16.36 | dakota | emss: I'd be going out of my way to do it, really... The FTP server isn't hosted on my main machine, I just use that one to access everything in the home |
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| 02:17.35 | emss | jhutchins maybe they are hosting a debian repository :) |
| 02:18.04 | jhutchins | emss: Um, no. |
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| 02:19.11 | jhutchins | Basically, you are distributing malware to a clientelle too naieve to understand the inherent flaws in the ftp protocol, and are hoping that your users will not suspect that the warez you offer are tainted. |
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| 02:20.27 | jhutchins | It's the basic premise of the 914 scams, if you are stupid enough to reply to the messages, you are a potential candidate for fraud. |
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| 02:21.16 | jhutchins | Running an open ftp server means you are capturing usernames and passwords in clear text, and probably planning to use them for fraud. |
| 02:22.25 | emss | ? |
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| 02:24.46 | jhutchins | emss: ftp passwords are sent as clear text. You can assume that the username and password have been used elseware, and attack valuable targets with that assumption. You won't always win, but you can score often enough to make it worth the effort. |
| 02:25.38 | dakota | jhutchins: Yes, I am planning on having such an elaborate setup when I can't even properly get an FTP server configured correctly |
| 02:25.44 | jhutchins | emss: People who think they can easily download free copies of proprietary software are easy marks. |
| 02:27.01 | dakota | Nor can I talk right, Jesus |
| 02:27.05 | dakota | I should go to bed |
| 02:27.20 | emss | haha so you are saying you should not run an ftp server because you might stupid users ...? |
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| 02:27.28 | emss | have* |
| 02:27.39 | emss | you could run an anonymous ftp |
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| 02:27.47 | jhutchins | dakota: Ja, if you are trying to distribute something legitimate, look for some secure methods like git and sftp. |
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| 02:28.25 | jhutchins | emss: It's a real problem. |
| 02:28.26 | dakota | jhutchins: I'm looking to host a website for my friend, and he's used to using an FTP client to upload files to a web server |
| 02:28.40 | dakota | I don't exactly intend to distribute things |
| 02:29.48 | jhutchins | dakota: You should educate your friend about the insecurity of ftp. |
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| 02:30.04 | emss | jhutchins i think most popular ftp servers support ssl too |
| 02:30.14 | dakota | jhutchins: Probably, yeah |
| 02:30.20 | jhutchins | dakota: http download can easily be made more scrure. |
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| 02:32.38 | NotJimCarrey | i'm trying to do an apt-get install from a list file, but i keep getting blah:i386' has no release candidate |
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| 02:32.52 | NotJimCarrey | how do i set it to use amd64 and not i386? |
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| 02:34.32 | NotJimCarrey | or is not finding an amd64 version, then not an i386 version and erroring out? |
| 02:36.02 | emss | what's a list file? |
| 02:36.25 | NotJimCarrey | a file with a list of packages |
| 02:36.27 | Derpadong | emss: a file with a list in it? Lol |
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| 02:38.41 | emss | apt-get install <package> ? |
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| 02:40.22 | NotJimCarrey | emss: my list has several thousand in it |
| 02:40.29 | NotJimCarrey | that's the point of the list |
| 02:40.43 | NotJimCarrey | but i found the problem, i think |
| 02:40.45 | emss | ah so stop trying to install i386 packages on an amd64 install? |
| 02:41.06 | NotJimCarrey | emss: i386 is not listed anywhere in the file |
| 02:42.30 | themill | since there's no package "blah" in archive, perhaps we could deal with a real situation? |
| 02:42.47 | NotJimCarrey | example: in the file, i list libgnuradio-vocoder3.6.4, the one in the repo is libgnuradio-vocoder3.7.1 |
| 02:43.17 | RedRYder | To All; One last time. I want to stream my music to my grids in opensim. Does anyone know of a good, easy to setup, program to do this? Thanks. |
| 02:43.24 | NotJimCarrey | it is in the repo, it's just that, since it's listed with the version as part of the name, it's erroring out |
| 02:43.54 | RedRYder | Is the program notjimcarrey talking about one? |
| 02:44.16 | themill | RedRYder: if anyone knew what opensim was, you might get more answers |
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| 02:44.43 | RedRYder | Second Life, Virtual Worlds, Etc. |
| 02:45.07 | RedRYder | The one I connect to is Metropolis Metaversum. |
| 02:45.13 | themill | NotJimCarrey: yeah -- that's actually the soversion not the package version and it's there to maintain correct dependencies on library versions. You shouldn't actually need to be manually installing library packages anyway though |
| 02:45.54 | NotJimCarrey | themill: yeah, thinking the same thing, just not liking it |
| 02:45.55 | NotJimCarrey | lol |
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| 02:46.29 | emss | RedRYder do you mean something like icecast? |
| 02:46.52 | RedRYder | emss: what is icecast? |
| 02:47.30 | emss | i think vlc supports streaming too "setting it up as a server" |
| 02:48.01 | NotJimCarrey | but, since most libs are installed as reqs, just removing them from the list file MAY work |
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| 02:48.35 | emss | NotJimCarrey you could also just remove the version from the "list file" |
| 02:48.39 | emss | ? |
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| 02:49.17 | emss | RedRYder icecast is a streaming media server for audio |
| 02:49.53 | NotJimCarrey | emss: with most libs in repos,the version is part of the listing itself |
| 02:50.15 | emss | that's bad news |
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| 02:51.50 | fishcooker | how to make the debian box can't be copied even be cloned? |
| 02:53.01 | NotJimCarrey | emss: not really, just removing the lib* from the file, the required ones will get installed as required, and i can parse out the missed ones later |
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| 02:53.51 | nell | im getting this error message http://i.imgur.com/8sC6REV.png |
| 02:54.18 | NotJimCarrey | most of the missed ones will just be lib*-dev |
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| 02:57.27 | themill | nell: deb-multimedia isn't part of debian; it's an unneeded 3rd party repository that contains poor quality packages that cause more bugs than they fix. |
| 02:59.42 | emss | NotJimCarrey would something like `grep "^lib" <yourlistfile> | sed -r 's/([0-9.]*|[0-9.]*-dev)$//' help? |
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| 03:01.10 | cortexA9 | hello all |
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| 03:02.27 | NotJimCarrey | emss: acutally, it may, thanks |
| 03:02.48 | NotJimCarrey | right now, just trying to parse out the other ones giving me no candidate errors |
| 03:03.04 | NotJimCarrey | think i'm getting too many errors for the others to get installed |
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| 03:20.00 | diabel | Hello everyone |
| 03:20.18 | cortexA9 | hi |
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| 03:23.23 | [E]sc | i can't seem to get my video card: GeForce 210 fully working (3D engine, etc) using wheezy, i've tried both the drivers from the repository and from the nvidia website, any suggestions? |
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| 03:26.50 | cortexA9 | any future project about debian on arm7l arch ? |
| 03:27.55 | themill | cortexA9: armhf already exists and targets that chip |
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| 03:29.54 | RikuNoctis | "/msg dpkg guidelines |
| 03:30.06 | dagano | hi : i've installed 386 debian on a VM and specified a root password on installation ... aaaand cannot login as root with my password. is there something i'm missing? |
| 03:30.59 | th3pun15h3r | I am thinking of going back to debian wheezy but thinking of getting the steam gaming client from either debian testing or unstable. I know there is a method to install by adding some of ubuntu's packages but I REALLY DON'T want to do that. |
| 03:32.45 | cortexA9 | themill, any project for the nexus 7 ? |
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| 03:34.06 | themill | cortexA9: I've heard people claim it is possible, but that is not hardware for which the technical details are available and it was not designed for linux. It might work... |
| 03:34.25 | themill | th3pun15h3r: a jessie chroot should work |
| 03:34.31 | RikuNoctis | Hi, I'm a newbie and need help to install/try Debian via USB. I have searched but it appears that I need a Linux machine to make the Live USB (right now I only have Windows). Is there a way to make a Live USB of Debian in Windows? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. |
| 03:35.23 | th3pun15h3r | themill, debating too of just running sid which I ran before for a bit with gnome 3. But id probably try out linuxbbq. Ive heard sid is actually not as unstable as so many say.. |
| 03:36.17 | themill | you'd probably be safer running jessie than sid. It is at least a self-consistent distribution |
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| 03:37.09 | th3pun15h3r | ive heard though that with testing that if it breaks a patch or fix can take a bit while with sid since its updating more frequently a fix might come faster than usual |
| 03:37.45 | th3pun15h3r | debian doesnt have that keyring crap it asks for when you use a internet based application does it? |
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| 04:10.32 | mojzesz | Hi i have a question about instalation proces of debian when it's making partitions everything is good if i do them manually at the end of free space on disc but grub and lilo can't install even i leave bad sectors |
| 04:11.49 | mojzesz | I don't know why it happens and file system is setting itself on read only |
| 04:12.43 | mojzesz | And i can't upgrade squeeze to debian wheezy then |
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| 04:13.54 | Blue1 | mojzesz: how are you creating the partitions? |
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| 04:15.53 | mojzesz | I'm deleting all partitions and i'm doing new manually filesystem ext3 with boot flag |
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| 04:16.49 | Blue1 | well, what I mean is what programme are you using? |
| 04:17.13 | mojzesz | I'm doing it at the end of free disc space otherwise instalation can't format new partition |
| 04:17.31 | dvs | WHAT PROGRAM! |
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| 04:17.57 | mojzesz | I'm doing it directly from debian installer from cd rom |
| 04:18.27 | Blue1 | you may need to delete the partition table, and start over. gparted will do that for you. |
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| 04:19.57 | Blue1 | mojzesz: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html#mozTocId555890 |
| 04:21.01 | Blue1 | backup /etc/ and /home/ and try this. |
| 04:21.10 | mojzesz | First i must have working laptop my good laptop is on service for a few days and now i'm using toshiba satellite pro 4600 with 40 gb ata hdd |
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| 04:21.45 | Blue1 | okay but what is on the hard drive now? |
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| 04:22.06 | Blue1 | deleting a partition, does NOT get rid of bad partition table. |
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| 04:22.46 | mojzesz | And i must bypass bad sectors untill i get my acer back |
| 04:23.17 | Blue1 | unless there is data on the hard drive that you need, re-creating the partition table, may be your only option... |
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| 04:24.04 | mojzesz | Now hdd is empty not enough time i has to do more must go to work |
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| 04:25.00 | Blue1 | okay you might try that then. |
| 04:26.03 | mojzesz | I have puppy linux live cd with gparted included when i back home i'll try what u say if it doesn't works i'll burn this piece of shit |
| 04:26.24 | Blue1 | i have been there -- best of luck to you. |
| 04:27.07 | Blue1 | this is a good article on bad blocks, etc: http://www.ehow.com/how_7226154_fix-bad-sectors-linux.html |
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| 04:28.02 | mojzesz | Thanks for all i have write yours advice and after work will be fight with junk round two and i'm going to win |
| 04:28.12 | Blue1 | indeed! |
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| 04:31.41 | mojzesz | Sorry out of network range sometimes it happens on my way to job can u paste again link to this article |
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| 04:33.25 | Blue1 | mojzesz: gparted article: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html#mozTocId555890 |
| 04:33.28 | mojzesz | About bad sectors |
| 04:33.50 | Blue1 | mojzesz: fix bad sectors: http://www.ehow.com/how_7226154_fix-bad-sectors-linux.html |
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| 04:34.36 | Blue1 | I would try to re-do the partition table then, e2fsck. |
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| 04:34.49 | mojzesz | Ok moment i'm connected from mobile phone sony ericsson k800i and i must rewrite url manually to browser |
| 04:35.05 | Blue1 | :-( |
| 04:36.24 | Blue1 | i can send an im to you, if that would help -- aim, yahoo, or gtalk. |
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| 04:39.10 | qkit | hi, anyone success install debian on mac powerpc? |
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| 04:40.59 | Blue1 | Sorry, I have had no experience with a mac. |
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| 04:41.23 | beepie | nobody uses ppc anymore (I'd google "debian wiki ppc") |
| 04:41.38 | beepie | (at least here, I don't think anybody does) |
| 04:42.50 | mojzesz | Blue1 if u can please send me it on e mail which i'll give u on pm |
| 04:43.02 | Blue1 | mojzesz: sure |
| 04:43.26 | mojzesz | About bad sectors i have rewrite in browser already |
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| 04:44.13 | Blue1 | priv. msg me your email address |
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| 04:46.06 | qkit | i have a apple pc which i wanted to install with debian |
| 04:46.14 | qkit | so i should use ppc iso? |
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| 04:47.30 | beepie | qkit, an apple pc would be easier, since that would suggest intel.. but you don't have an apple pc :) |
| 04:47.51 | qkit | well, i believe this is no running on intel |
| 04:48.00 | beepie | exactly |
| 04:48.30 | qkit | i put in the ppc debian installer but the mac g5 just cant boot it up |
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| 04:48.54 | qkit | and the worst part, i dont have the apple keyboard... |
| 04:49.03 | beepie | qkit, nobody calls an apple ppc an "apple pc" |
| 04:49.12 | qkit | oops..sorry. |
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| 04:49.45 | qkit | now i dont understand how can i make the apple ppc bootup with debian ppc installer |
| 04:49.49 | beepie | it's got to do with intel's prominence of x86 |
| 04:50.17 | qkit | the apple ppc can recognise the i386 debian installer..but no ppc debian installer |
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| 05:24.13 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 05:24.17 | ShapeShifter499 | again |
| 05:26.01 | ShapeShifter499 | I want to set up a server I can hack on and what not, however if I set it up encrypted is there away to remote decrypt in the case I need to reboot the server? |
| 05:30.34 | pirret | remote decrypt what |
| 05:31.19 | ShapeShifter499 | the drive/partition |
| 05:31.29 | ShapeShifter499 | I'm about to install a fresh debian setup |
| 05:32.30 | ShapeShifter499 | pirret, I know that it needs a password before fully booting up which is crud if I'm away and need to reboot the server |
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| 05:35.48 | ShapeShifter499 | pirret, I'm talking about setting up a lvm encrypted server |
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| 06:39.33 | bitgeek | I had to reinstall my system using Wheezy CD then I immediately upgraded to Jessie (I thought this would fix my dual screen issue) |
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| 06:40.06 | bitgeek | now when I boot I see two kernels 3.2 and 3.10 but I can't load 3.10 |
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| 06:40.27 | bitgeek | it says something like unable to locate debian/root |
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| 06:46.16 | emss | bitgeek does 3.2 load? |
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| 06:46.27 | bitgeek | yes no problems there |
| 06:46.36 | emss | using grub? |
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| 06:46.43 | bitgeek | yes |
| 06:47.06 | emss | not sure if this would fix the issue but maybe running `update-grub' |
| 06:47.49 | bitgeek | Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.10-3-amd64 |
| 06:47.49 | bitgeek | Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.10-3-amd64 |
| 06:47.56 | bitgeek | should I try rebooting? |
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| 06:48.11 | emss | not sure if 3.10 or anything would show up in the grub menu before running `update-grub' |
| 06:48.18 | emss | :\ |
| 06:48.31 | emss | sure |
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| 06:49.38 | k_sze[work] | Is there a "debian" way of doing user and group administration? |
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| 06:49.52 | k_sze[work] | e.g. maybe not use the `useradd` command, but something else entirely? |
| 06:50.03 | honestly | yeah, use "adduser" |
| 06:50.11 | honestly | (seriously.) |
| 06:50.33 | Dewi | hehe |
| 06:50.46 | k_sze[work] | I see. |
| 06:50.52 | emss | well there is `vigr' or your favorite editor on /etc/group |
| 06:51.06 | Dewi | honestly: do we still edit APT sources with a text editor? |
| 06:51.28 | emss | yes |
| 06:51.31 | honestly | in debian? ya bet |
| 06:51.34 | Dewi | just checking :) |
| 06:52.07 | honestly | it's sad, but ubuntu's ppa system is a huge advantage |
| 06:52.20 | honestly | you can occasionally get nonstale packages |
| 06:52.34 | honestly | (overall packaging is shit though obviously) |
| 06:52.37 | emss | ppa system? |
| 06:52.43 | honestly | yah |
| 06:53.13 | honestly | you do "add-apt-repository ppa:coolproject/stable" |
| 06:53.20 | honestly | and magic happens |
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| 06:54.15 | k_sze[work] | What's so special about a 'system user'? |
| 06:54.25 | k_sze[work] | Usually used to run daemons and services? |
| 06:54.27 | honestly | it has a low uid |
| 06:54.49 | honestly | dunno what that really means though (: |
| 06:54.56 | honestly | ask the docs |
| 06:55.28 | emss | k_sze[work] you can add users non-interactively |
| 06:55.54 | emss | bitgeek did that fix it? |
| 06:56.19 | JordanJ2 | Hello, I have a Realtek wireless card, that I cannot seem to get working with Debian |
| 06:56.29 | k_sze[work] | emss: what does interactivity have to do with it? |
| 06:56.57 | honestly | JordanJ2: try apt-get install wireless-compat |
| 06:56.57 | k_sze[work] | I plan to specify as much as I can as command line options to adduser. |
| 06:57.04 | honestly | no guarantees though |
| 06:57.13 | JordanJ2 | Tried that, still nothing |
| 06:57.24 | honestly | hmm |
| 06:57.38 | honestly | quick, what year is it? |
| 06:57.52 | JordanJ2 | 2010-2011 |
| 06:58.05 | honestly | sounds about right |
| 06:58.27 | honestly | if only it ws 2013 and all distros had wifi support ootb |
| 06:58.28 | bitgeek | emss: no, same issue, this is what I see after selecting 3.10: http://imgur.com/Rm9djL4 |
| 06:58.37 | qkit | strangely i using debian ppc it cant boot from cdrom, but by using debian i386 on my mac g5 it able to boot up |
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| 06:59.44 | ArtyG | qkit, you're sure it's a G5? Hahah. |
| 07:00.44 | qkit | ArtyG, how do i check it? i have installed the ubuntu i386 and it screw the whole mac machine |
| 07:01.04 | afidegnum | hello, how do I open the following ports ? DNS - 53, SMTP - 25 (TLS - 465), IMAP - 143 (TLS - 993), POP3 - 110 (TLS - 995), FTP -21 |
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| 07:01.19 | afidegnum | I am in debian squeeze |
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| 07:02.38 | emss | bitgeek sorry can't help, has something to do with lvm possibly location /dev/mapper/debian-root points to no longer exists :\ |
| 07:03.02 | bitgeek | thanks emss |
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| 07:03.33 | emss | can't find the correct partition/lv that contains / |
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| 07:03.39 | torax | afidegnum: iptables |
| 07:03.45 | k_sze[work] | deluser does not automatically remove the primary group of a user as well, right? |
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| 07:04.16 | k_sze[work] | I have other users that belong in the same primary group as a user I want to remove. |
| 07:04.40 | k_sze[work] | I have other users that belong in the primary group of the user I want to remove. |
| 07:04.47 | J-BBB | Hi @all, can anyone say me when this fix will release to stable tree? -> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23710356 |
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| 07:05.09 | emss | bitgeek are you using encryption? |
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| 07:09.24 | qkit | oops..i find out is using intel processor.. |
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| 07:09.44 | qkit | so i just need to use x68 debian to install ? |
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| 07:10.04 | emss | i386 or amd64? |
| 07:10.25 | digdilem | x86/i386 for 32 bit. amd64 for 64bit |
| 07:10.55 | qkit | ok..thanks..let me try it and see |
| 07:11.12 | qkit | this are the spec http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_pro/specs/mac-pro-quad-2.66-specs.html |
| 07:11.34 | digdilem | uh, learn more before proceeding |
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| 07:11.44 | mmm4m5m | Hi. aptitude shows "pB libavformat53" (broken)... but "apt-get -s install libavformat53" tells "extra packages will be installed: libavcodec-extra-53 libavutil51 libx264-123" - apt-get does not see any problems... Is that normal from time to time? I have install recommends=yes/true/1 |
| 07:12.00 | digdilem | google for a guide to debian on that hardware. it's not just about the processor |
| 07:12.17 | bitgeek | emss: no encryption, from searching I see this seems to be the common cause of the issue I am having, but not in my case |
| 07:12.37 | grimeton | qkit: you want to use refit to boot from the mac |
| 07:12.47 | grimeton | qkit: refit -> grub2-efi -> linux |
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| 07:13.10 | qkit | oh..grimeton, how can i configure that? |
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| 07:15.25 | emss | qkit you will want amd64 most likely and not i386 |
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| 07:16.20 | qkit | thanks |
| 07:16.32 | qkit | reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting |
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| 07:16.41 | qkit | hopefully i at the correct track |
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| 07:24.35 | afidegnum | any, any help pelase? |
| 07:25.22 | emss | ? |
| 07:26.13 | afidegnum | hello, how do I open the following ports on Debian Squeeze ? DNS - 53, SMTP - 25 (TLS - 465), IMAP - 143 (TLS - 993), POP3 - 110 (TLS - 995), FTP -21 |
| 07:26.19 | sssilver | Hello guys... I wanna switch from Ubuntu to Debian (out of philosophical motives), however I'm afraid the packages in Debian repos will be too outdated for convenient casual desktop use. Is there a workaround for this? Anything between Stable and Sid, that would provide modern versions of packages (similar to Ubuntu experience), and at the same time not crash every week? Thanks |
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| 07:27.37 | mmm4m5m | :) |
| 07:27.45 | torax | afidegnum: again, use iptables |
| 07:28.03 | b0lt | afidegnum: there is no such thing as an "open" port |
| 07:28.22 | b0lt | afidegnum: you need to have a program listening on the port, and not block traffic to it |
| 07:28.56 | afidegnum | ok, I am following an installation procedure and I am told to open ports |
| 07:29.12 | afidegnum | b0lt: ok, let's say we are going to listen to those ports. |
| 07:29.16 | emss | sssilver http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 07:29.49 | b0lt | afidegnum: you shouldn't blindly follow howto's |
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| 07:30.12 | b0lt | afidegnum: also, on a default debian install, iptables block nothing. you don't need to do anything |
| 07:30.20 | afidegnum | ok, |
| 07:31.01 | afidegnum | the howto i am following isfrom a trusted source anyway :) but when they ask to open the ports, I just wanted to know what it entails |
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| 07:31.09 | b0lt | afidegnum: if what you want is port forwarding into a nat from your router, that's an entirely different subject, and probably achievable through your router's web interface |
| 07:31.33 | b0lt | afidegnum: "opening a port" mostly refers to making sure that port is not blocked by a firewall on the machine |
| 07:31.41 | torax | afidegnum: even howtos from "trusted source" can be bad |
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| 07:32.07 | b0lt | afidegnum: an open port will however still be reported as "closed" if nothing is listening on it. the whole open/closed terminology is broken and should not be used |
| 07:32.34 | b0lt | afidegnum: a connection is either accepted, rejected or dropped - not open or closed |
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| 07:39.20 | jelly-home | afidegnum: a debian system does not have a local firewall by default, so everything is "open" |
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| 07:40.14 | [E]sc | i don't know what i did, but when i click on something after kde boots up, it logs me out, i'm using wheezy. i don't know if it's because i downloaded something or whatever? can anyone help me out? |
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| 07:41.27 | jelly-home | [E]sc: create a new, fresh user and try logging in as that one. Does the problem persist in that case? |
| 07:42.54 | [E]sc | thanks jelly-home, let me try that. i'll get back to you asap. |
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| 07:44.17 | sssilver | emss, if I install a backport, I'll pretty much have to maintain its updates myself, right? |
| 07:44.45 | afidegnum | thanks a lot for your input, continuing my configurations :) |
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| 08:06.34 | mmm4m5m | Now another strange thing - after install virtualbox 4.3, aptitude now shows "pB virtualbox-4.1" and "iB virtualbox-4.3". When I select virtualbox 4.3 inside aptitude I see this msg "virtualbox-4.3 conflicts with virtualbox [contrib] (provided by virtualbox-4.1 4.1.28-89849~Debian~wheezy)" |
| 08:06.53 | mmm4m5m | Note that virtualbox 4.1 is removed and purged, no errors in log files, nothing |
| 08:07.12 | mmm4m5m | Pls some advice? Can't find anything in google... For me, seems all good, but aptitude does complain |
| 08:07.29 | k_sze[work] | The standard way to create a service/daemon that runs at startup is still to write an init.d script, right? |
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| 08:12.44 | enuguri | hi I am trying to calculate what is the memory consumed by a process depending on this I want to know how many such process I can run on that machine which causing any memory starvation |
| 08:13.02 | enuguri | should I be looking at SHR+RES or VIRT |
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| 08:15.28 | [E]sc | jelly-home, so i followed your advice, and it crashes for the new user as well. i've switched desktop managers and using gnome and it hasn't crashed (yet). maybe it's a glitch in the kde? |
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| 08:19.26 | cortexA9 | hi |
| 08:20.02 | NGabi | Hello! I have a task in which I have change the permission of the owners for their home directories. Then I am told that the GID of the folders should be right set. What should I set the GID? |
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| 08:20.43 | cortexA9 | anyone have the binaries of debian buzz 1.1 ? |
| 08:20.49 | [E]sc | spoke way too soon... |
| 08:21.04 | cortexA9 | or rex or bo |
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| 08:22.33 | cortexA9 | np found it |
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| 08:23.28 | cortexA9 | how to test debian 0.93R6 ? |
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| 08:24.44 | NGabi | What should the GID be when you change permissions on a folder? |
| 08:25.30 | honestly | NGabi: does not compute |
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| 08:27.01 | [E]sc | cortexA9, http://ftp.riken.jp/Linux/debian/debian-archive/debian/dists/Debian-1.1/main/ try that... |
| 08:27.49 | cortexA9 | [E]sc what is the first iso version ? |
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| 08:28.39 | [E]sc | according to http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive i think its buzz? i don't know actually... |
| 08:28.44 | honestly | , |
| 08:28.50 | honestly | augh |
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| 08:29.15 | honestly | NGabi: the gid doesn't matter most of the time |
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| 08:30.01 | honestly | NGabi: set it to the user's primary group, or to nogroup, when in doubt |
| 08:30.50 | [E]sc | so my desktop environment logs itself out, sporadically ... both in gnome and kde, as guest and my personal user, any suggestions? i'm not sure if it's because i turned it off to blow the dust out of the computer case today? |
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| 08:35.28 | cortexA9 | is it hard to make a mirror of debian ? |
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| 08:40.16 | tidux | my /etc/resolv.conf seems to be broken even after running dhclient |
| 08:40.27 | tidux | can I safely remove it and generate a new one with dhclient? |
| 08:42.18 | gnude | hello, i want to install a ejabberd server, but my server has only a fix ip-adress, no domain name. is it possible to install it on this machine, and put at the clients (xabber, pidgin) only the ip adress as jabber server? would this work? |
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| 08:45.01 | kenzi | gnude: yes it will work |
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| 08:51.13 | gnude | thanks. is there anything important to know when i want to use ejabberd? my plan is a small group of users that i can add with command line. no open xmpp for everyone. |
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| 08:54.01 | tidux | well I fixed my problem |
| 08:54.07 | tidux | turned out I hadn't enabled iptables forwarding |
| 08:54.08 | tidux | derp |
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| 08:55.31 | [E]sc | desktop environment keeps logging me out...it would be better if it was rebooting completely... |
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| 08:59.26 | [E]sc | any suggestions on how to fix this or debug this sudden log out? |
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| 09:02.58 | Bastichou | Hello, |
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| 09:12.10 | gnude | hello bastichou |
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| 09:19.21 | jned | partman is installed by default, do you have to install, is it only available using the installer, how do you run it after installation? |
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| 09:25.20 | mtfk | hi, is up there any good tool/solution which will allow me to recreate my system base on snapshots in any point of time without need to take care of dependencies. Something similar to bundler (Gemfile) where I can define versions and he will install/freez those specific version of packages. |
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| 09:37.11 | omarek | Hi, I'm a PostgreSQL newbie trying to import pg_dump into a PostgreSQL/postgis database. It fails with a bunch of errors suggesting postgis is not properly installed. Can you help me confirm that ? Here's my dpkg -l and \dx: http://bpaste.net/show/BwoALQvkplXBmT1TYgJA/ |
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| 09:38.34 | opr | hi all - when i use "top" i see mysqld is using a high amount of cpu (sometimes it even goes above 100%) |
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| 09:38.55 | opr | is there a way i can log what's accessing mysql and see why it jumps to such high cpu usage? |
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| 09:39.18 | lnxslck | opr, have you checked mysql logs? |
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| 09:39.38 | omarek | What packages do I need to make sure PostgreSQL + postgis is installed properly in Debian ? |
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| 09:39.49 | opr | lnxslck, oops, will do that :-) |
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| 09:40.11 | lnxslck | omarek, apt-get will resolve that |
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| 09:40.40 | lnxslck | omarek, just make sure you have a repository that has postgres and postgis and the dependecies will be solved/shown |
| 09:41.29 | omarek | lnxslck: Not quite ! For instance, my first problem was that I installed 'postgresql' and 'postgis' packages. That's NOT ENOUGH! I also needed to install 'postgresql-9.1-postgis'. |
| 09:41.43 | lnxslck | how come? |
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| 09:43.14 | omarek | Apparently 'postgis' is some more general package, which can be used with multiple Postgres versions. If you don't install 'postgresql-your.postgresqlversion-postgis', you won't have a 'postgis' directory inside your 'postgresql' install directory. |
| 09:43.45 | omarek | I think I got all the dependencies, but maybe I missed something. |
| 09:45.42 | k_sze[work] | `start-stop-daemon -c` is the most correct way? |
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| 10:08.28 | k_sze[work] | I just want to create an ad-hoc daemon, but it seems that update-rc.d will automatically calculate the correct order for the init.d script if it contains the LSB-style comments. |
| 10:08.57 | SixtyFold | i cant figure out where to go to setup up my bluetooth keyboard to my bluetooth dongle, any suggestions? |
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| 10:22.09 | odlisa | Hi, does anyone know when backports for wheezy will come to life? I'm specifically looking for xserver backports in order to support nvidia optimus. |
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| 10:27.02 | techouse | how can i block all connections on a certain port? |
| 10:27.12 | techouse | via iptables |
| 10:27.27 | techouse | meaning all ips on say port 6667 |
| 10:28.54 | joltcan | techouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo#Blocking_Traffic |
| 10:29.34 | SOUL_OF_R00T | guys, have appeared one strange thing here, my gnome user menu not show the shutdown option only suspend appear from some users, what is happening? |
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| 10:31.26 | ksk | SOUL_OF_R00T: users need to be in a specific group to shutdown a computer, was it plugdev or sth? :> |
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| 10:32.01 | SOUL_OF_R00T | ok ksk i verify that but the error ocurs with users already have working |
| 10:32.17 | SOUL_OF_R00T | after a last update |
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| 10:35.43 | SOUL_OF_R00T | ksk the user already are in the correct groups |
| 10:36.33 | ksk | okay, so im out :P |
| 10:36.42 | SOUL_OF_R00T | the strange is the suspend option appear but shutdown no may it have something with icewasel login on a site? |
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| 10:38.04 | k_sze[work] | How do I properly daemonize a bash script? I wrote a bash script in /usr/sbin/ and a /etc/init.d/ script to use it. |
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| 10:38.30 | k_sze[work] | How do I properly detach, while still being able to kill it with the init.d stop command/ |
| 10:39.40 | k_sze[work] | the manpage of start-stop-daemon says there is a -b option, but it is only to be used as a last resort because then start-stop-daemon can't check the exit status if the process fails. |
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| 10:40.23 | k_sze[work] | Would it be any better to use `nohup` in my /usr/sbin/ script? |
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| 10:42.21 | SixtyFold | can someone explain to me what to do with a .bundle file to install a program? |
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| 10:44.43 | ksk | k_sze[work]: #bash, also take a look at daemontools |
| 10:44.56 | cybernova | k_sze[work], to demonize a script i think you may easily doing a while true and writing the code under |
| 10:44.57 | sunbeam | is there a site like web.archive.org that DOES have images? |
| 10:44.58 | sunbeam | or more images |
| 10:45.13 | ksk | sunbeam: images are kinda big compared to text, so probably not |
| 10:45.27 | ksk | cybernova: sounds like "ruby, bundler" stuff, put it into google ;) |
| 10:45.27 | k_sze[work] | daemontools |
| 10:45.33 | k_sze[work] | !daemontools |
| 10:45.34 | dpkg | daemontools is a suite of programs for managing Unix services, not to be confused with <DAEMON Tools>. Previously <non-free>, included in main as of version 1:0.76-1. http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html |
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| 10:46.51 | cybernova | ksk, ? |
| 10:47.40 | ksk | SixtyFold: sounds like "ruby, bundler" stuff, put it into google ;) |
| 10:47.44 | ksk | cybernova: wrong hl, sorry. |
| 10:47.54 | cybernova | lol |
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| 10:50.02 | SixtyFold | ksk: thanks, i got the answer, but thanks anyways |
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| 10:52.26 | SOUL_OF_R00T | ksk i found in some logins start some process related to ssh-??? i have killed him and the shutdown option appear again |
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| 10:56.20 | ksk | SOUL_OF_R00T: im not into your desktopamanger. so i have no idea :) |
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| 11:17.14 | jaami | do i have to restart debian after changing /usr/profile? |
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| 11:17.57 | jaami | how new changes take effect without restarting ? |
| 11:17.59 | ksk | jaami: there is no /usr/profile - what do you want to do actually? |
| 11:18.35 | jaami | there is /etc/profile, im sorry i wrote wrong path |
| 11:18.40 | oskie | if you mean '/etc/profile' you can try 'exec $SHELL' |
| 11:19.18 | jaami | ksk, i changed the path in the file. so just want to see if new path is working? |
| 11:19.32 | ksk | jaami: what oskie told you |
| 11:20.06 | jaami | oh okay, thanks, i try that command |
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| 11:23.08 | mooperd | Hello, I am trying to use my debian box as a router for my VPN connections I have set up NAT on the ppp0 interface but the performance is bad and https connections do not seem to work. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/dbaeb44abd5134678548 |
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| 11:27.59 | jaami | there is something strange with /etc/profile when i nano profile i see my changes but when i run cat profile i see old file. i ran exex $SHELL |
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| 11:29.07 | jaami | exec $SHELL ***** |
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| 11:30.18 | jaami | ksk, can you tell me why output is different with nano and cat commands? |
| 11:31.51 | jaami | oskie, can you tell me what to do next? |
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| 11:34.55 | jaami | never mind, i ran exec $SHELL and now cat shows my changes. |
| 11:36.06 | grn | is there an alternatives group for e-mail client? |
| 11:37.03 | jaami | hmm, now when i run echo $PATH i see same old path while i have changed path in profile |
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| 11:57.54 | bullgard4 | Using Gedit, how to replace a space character with an underline character? Gedit > Ctrl+H > (Replace) > 'Search for:'='\ ' Replace by:'='_' grayes out the »Replace« button. |
| 11:58.15 | avalarion | Only one user of my users has no username. If I say: "id #USERNAME#" I get "no such user" but I am able to ssh into that user, BUT get "whami: cannot find user ID 1005" at start O.o Any idea? |
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| 11:58.49 | ksk | avalarion: grep $id /etc/passwd |
| 11:59.21 | ksk | also make sure that user is able to read /etc/passwd |
| 11:59.32 | avalarion | is able and in the file |
| 11:59.58 | avalarion | ksk "USERNAME:x:1005:1003::/home/USERNAME:/bin/zsh |
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| 12:00.20 | ksk | avalarion: "getent passwd" show him, too? |
| 12:00.35 | bullgard4 | avalarion: Create a operationg system user with an ordinary name or repair the cooresponding entry in /etc/passwd . |
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| 12:01.24 | avalarion | ksk bullgard4 I am so stupid >.< have to sync /etc/ because I am using chroot for users in group 1003 |
| 12:01.30 | avalarion | Thank you! |
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| 12:03.05 | oskie | jaami: for PATH you must log in and out |
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| 12:11.45 | jaami | thanks thats what i needed to know. |
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| 12:12.47 | oskie | jaami: technically you can set PATH in /etc/bashrc (or ~/.bashrc) as well, and that way you would not have to log out |
| 12:12.51 | oskie | cd /etc/ |
| 12:12.56 | oskie | oops wrong window |
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| 12:14.51 | jumperswitch | hi |
| 12:14.53 | jumperswitch | So I want to start a subshell, for this I use . /path/to/other/script.sh |
| 12:14.54 | jumperswitch | But now I want to start this subshell inside a chroot |
| 12:14.56 | jumperswitch | I tried chroot /path/ . /path/to/other/script.sh |
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| 12:14.59 | jumperswitch | This doesn't work. chroot: failed to run command `.': Permission denied |
| 12:15.02 | jumperswitch | So do I need to enclose it in backticks? |
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| 12:21.44 | ksk | jumperswitch: basicly you do "chroot $chrootdir $command" |
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| 12:22.08 | ksk | do you want to source that script? |
| 12:22.13 | ksk | (as the "." does) |
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| 12:24.46 | mjt | jumperswitch: `.' is not a subshell, that script is done by your current shell. |
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| 12:25.17 | ksk | if you do "bash skript.sh" thats a subshell |
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| 12:26.31 | jumperswitch | Yes, I want to source the script!!! |
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| 12:27.09 | jumperswitch | So I have to pass the variables as arguments because one cannot source a script inside a new chroot? |
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| 12:36.56 | siberiannerd | hey guys, maybe someone could give me a tip on how to harden a bit my current end-goal of running qbittorent-nox on my router box in a safe way, i'm planning to store my stuff on separate device, so i'm planning to add a user for this purpose with home directory under that mount point and... that would be nice if i could lock this user in that home directory even in a worst case scenario |
| 12:37.05 | siberiannerd | sorry for my english :/ |
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| 12:41.36 | sunbeam | people always say once you upload an image to some public profile on the web it will never leave, but i'm looking for some profile of mine back in 2009 (old site) and i cannot find it with web archive org |
| 12:41.40 | sunbeam | any ideas what I can do? |
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| 12:44.07 | pigeons | sunbeam: request the backups from PRSM |
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| 12:49.45 | darsie | try archive.org |
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| 12:51.17 | sunbeam | darsie: that's what I said :( |
| 12:51.34 | darsie | ahh |
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| 12:52.32 | darsie | Guess people are wrong. Data gets lost. |
| 12:52.41 | darsie | Maybe you weren't sexy enough. |
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| 13:08.43 | zee | Can I ask for rsync help here, even though its a debian chan? |
| 13:08.51 | zee | its from debian to debian ;) |
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| 13:09.30 | abrotman | you can try |
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| 13:09.54 | zee | I Have a source server, and I want to rsync to a target server, but all files on target server should be overwritten! |
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| 13:10.10 | abrotman | even if the contents are the same? |
| 13:10.10 | zee | I have of course a exclude file etc. |
| 13:10.15 | zee | yes, even though |
| 13:11.00 | zee | im using rsync -e ssh -avz --exclude |
| 13:11.13 | zee | i should probably use an r as well |
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| 13:11.40 | zee | but, it still does not overwrite target server.. |
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| 13:12.57 | abrotman | not sure there's an option for that |
| 13:13.17 | zee | :/ |
| 13:13.33 | zee | then do you have any idea, how I best replicate 1 server to another? |
| 13:13.38 | zee | both are running deb. |
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| 13:23.49 | zee | would it be a possibility to use the CP command over SSH to accomplish that? |
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| 13:24.12 | petern_ | rsync generally works |
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| 13:24.48 | zee | not to overwrite target files |
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| 13:25.06 | zee | i cant find any rsync command to overwrite target files, if they excist! |
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| 13:27.50 | petn-randall | zee: What do you mean by "doesn't overwrite target files"? Can you provide an concrete example? |
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| 13:28.26 | petn-randall | zee: e.g. actual output of your rsync run, and the directory listing showing that the source file exists, but isn't synced over to the target. |
| 13:28.40 | zee | petn-randall: I want rsync source, to overwrite target server files. |
| 13:29.08 | petn-randall | zee: Yes, that's the whole reason rsync exists, which is why I think that the problem lies somewhere else. |
| 13:29.32 | petn-randall | zee: Best if to paste the output to http://paste.debian.net. |
| 13:29.36 | petn-randall | s/if/is/ |
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| 13:31.18 | zee | how do I output? |
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| 13:32.28 | zee | when I run the command, it outputs to screen |
| 13:32.35 | petn-randall | zee: You're running rsync in a terminal, right? Copy and paste the output with the mouse to the site above. If you're not running a GUI, use the package 'pastebinit'. |
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| 13:33.33 | royaflash | hello |
| 13:33.58 | royaflash | how find computer name in network |
| 13:33.58 | royaflash | how find computer name in network ? |
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| 13:35.56 | petn-randall | royaflash: Are you running Debian? |
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| 13:36.33 | royaflash | yes |
| 13:37.09 | royaflash | i want command for undrestand computer name in network . |
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| 13:38.31 | royaflash | petn-randall: yes |
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| 13:40.42 | jelly | royaflash: if you mean the dns name associated with its ip address, use the "host" command or "dig -x" |
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| 13:50.19 | siberiannerd | well, maybe someone could give me a hint please, can i run an app from some user with "nobody" rights except i need it to be able to read it's .conf from user's home folder? :/ |
| 13:50.58 | siberiannerd | chould i change permissions for that /subdir/.conf ? |
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| 13:51.04 | siberiannerd | s* |
| 13:51.33 | nkuttler | siberiannerd: hrm, which app are you running? |
| 13:52.09 | siberiannerd | nkuttler, qbittorrent-nox and unfortunately it doesn't know how to read custom config |
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| 13:54.24 | DammitJim | how does one start a process automatically as a particular user? |
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| 13:54.53 | nkuttler | siberiannerd: ok. just wondering why you want to use a different user? i'd just create a new system user if i wanted to do that |
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| 13:55.07 | nkuttler | DammitJim: do you mean at boot? |
| 13:55.08 | royaflash | jelly: no not host name , undrestand network computer |
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| 13:55.15 | DammitJim | yeah, sorry |
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| 13:56.55 | siberiannerd | nkuttler, because i'm not sure it would be safe, especially taking in view my experience in user management |
| 13:57.16 | nkuttler | DammitJim: you can write an init script |
| 13:57.39 | siberiannerd | DammitJim, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/38905385/qbittorrent $USER for example |
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| 14:01.25 | siberiannerd | nkuttler, besides i'm planning to share stuff it downloads via samba, from "nobody" dir, so that would be total win if i could achieve the above through sorta workaround |
| 14:02.25 | siberiannerd | because the only reason to have a new separate user in system is compensating qbittorrnent-nox's lack of ability to read external --config :/ |
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| 14:03.04 | siberiannerd | that's just not unix way in my subjective perception... twice |
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| 14:03.28 | mmm4m5m | I have many users - for skype for example :) |
| 14:04.18 | siberiannerd | that is router box with 1tb drive for p2p purposes |
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| 14:12.07 | butterduckcake | !seen me |
| 14:12.08 | dpkg | butterduckcake: i haven't seen 'me' |
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| 14:13.02 | butterduckcake | http://www.google.com |
| 14:13.19 | butterduckcake | dpkg: http://www.google.com |
| 14:13.19 | dpkg | butterduckcake: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 14:13.29 | butterduckcake | !help |
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| 14:15.04 | siberiannerd | so there is no way i can make app to read user's ~/.config and run it with nobody rights at the same time? |
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| 14:16.38 | jhutchins | siberiannerd: I don't think your concept of "nobody rights" matches the permissions models that are used in the unix world. |
| 14:17.22 | siberiannerd | jhutchins, i'm bad with my english, but the rights which "nobody" user has fit |
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| 14:18.15 | siberiannerd | maybe i could set some suid byte or how it's called properly |
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| 14:19.05 | spidernik84 | hi all. I'm planning to setup apt-cacher-ng across multiple datacenters. I'd like the clients to do direct access to the repos in case the proxy is down. Any obvious way of doing it via the apt.conf file? |
| 14:19.30 | spidernik84 | or, better, to try proxy1, then proxy2, then direct access |
| 14:21.13 | daemonkeeper | apt does not support that, but you could use a HTTP load balancer. |
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| 14:23.52 | ksk | multiple datacenters? anycast! duno how to fallback to "direct access" though. |
| 14:24.19 | ksk | but if you are a hostingprovide you should not DOS an public mirror anyway |
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| 14:25.07 | daemonkeeper | anycast? Err. no. |
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| 14:25.11 | spidernik84 | :D |
| 14:25.18 | daemonkeeper | You clearly have no idea how anycast works. |
| 14:25.26 | spidernik84 | well, by saying datacenters I overestimated a bit... |
| 14:25.34 | spidernik84 | we have stuff in colocation |
| 14:25.49 | spidernik84 | I have a single repo in sweden, our own |
| 14:25.58 | spidernik84 | and different "sites" across the world |
| 14:26.16 | spidernik84 | all of them point to sweden. I'd like the servers to use apt-cacher-ng |
| 14:26.37 | spidernik84 | andatche, since I'd like two per site for redundancy, the clients should try the first, then the second |
| 14:26.47 | spidernik84 | then resort to the repo in Sweden |
| 14:27.04 | spidernik84 | but I've seen many options. From squid-deb-proxy with avahi autoconfig |
| 14:27.07 | daemonkeeper | spidernik84: As said, make a HTTP load balancer with direct routing, and determine based on the source address the site to serve. |
| 14:27.28 | daemonkeeper | Or something like what you mentioned. |
| 14:27.37 | daemonkeeper | Though I'd be scared to run Avahi in a DC. |
| 14:27.43 | spidernik84 | exactly :D |
| 14:28.04 | spidernik84 | sosby, I should rely on the routing instead of letting apt-get decide? |
| 14:28.18 | spidernik84 | ah, autocomplete, dammit! |
| 14:28.24 | daemonkeeper | apt cannot decide. |
| 14:28.54 | daemonkeeper | You either manage to get apt to read a local sources.list automagically adapting to the site, or you do by routing. |
| 14:29.06 | daemonkeeper | Or DNS as for me which is probably the easiest. |
| 14:29.14 | spidernik84 | dns views? |
| 14:30.05 | daemonkeeper | Yes, make apt.spidernik84-inc.com resolve to the mirror on proxy A or B, depending on the source address. That shouldn't be a problem, since you probably know the subnets for each site. |
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| 14:30.32 | spidernik84 | correct. Ok, thanks, looks like something worth checking :) |
| 14:31.18 | spidernik84 | last question: can I still do this trick by resorting on apt-cacher-ng on the sites or do I need to setup a full blown mirror per each site? |
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| 14:31.39 | daemonkeeper | Either works. Or a partial mirror. |
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| 14:31.54 | siberiannerd | there is an app, which can read and store it's .config only under current user's home directory, i need it to run with another user which doesn't have it's own home dir, but keep it's ability to read/write own configuration file |
| 14:32.10 | daemonkeeper | I'd use http://doc.powerdns.com/html/pipebackend-dynamic-resolution.html for source based DNS replies. |
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| 14:32.51 | spidernik84 | daemonkeeper, lovely. Thanks |
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| 14:34.12 | g105b | I changed a username using usermod -l newuser olduser, but when I boot into an x session the old username still appears as the only option in the login window - how can I clear the cache of this window? |
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| 14:37.36 | ksk | g105b: did you rename the users home like the manpage says? i dont really think there is a cache - but if you would have to tell us which sessionmanger/desktop you use |
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| 14:38.46 | g105b | ksk: it's whatever is default for a fresh install of wheezy - I've never used a GUI before, always just on terminal |
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| 14:40.34 | g105b | ksk: I used usermod -l, then renamed the home directory. I didn't know there was any other reference to the user on the system, but it seems the gnome login still remembers it |
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| 14:46.09 | g105b | apparently it is using gdm |
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| 14:57.15 | tnks | installing Acroread on Debian/AMD64 seems to be a calamity. |
| 14:57.39 | tnks | government forms seem to couple to Adobe features explicitly. |
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| 14:57.51 | tnks | trying okular, but I suspect I'll have the same problems. |
| 14:58.52 | abrotman | dpkg: tell tnks about edit pdf |
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| 15:02.16 | tnks | abrotman: not sure how far I'll get, the document is doing a version check on the reader. |
| 15:02.23 | tnks | and then giving me a message. |
| 15:03.01 | kaltorak | Hello, debian people, I am trying to install debian 7 in a computer with windows 7, for work issues I can't touch windows partitions, and the system should be dual boot, well I use the debian 7 install CD, and try to perform installation 3 times, first time told me about not EFI partition, I ignore the message and procede, when the system reboot after installation complete, grub claims unknow filesystem and give the rescue promtp |
| 15:03.16 | brimstone | what's the proper way to add a user via the preinst of a package? |
| 15:03.27 | brimstone | mainly, how do i pick a uid < 1000? |
| 15:03.34 | kaltorak | second time I setup two partition of 50 MB each the second was EFI |
| 15:03.36 | kaltorak | and bootable |
| 15:03.42 | kaltorak | both are logical |
| 15:03.49 | kaltorak | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:04.01 | kaltorak | all time windows partitions are keeped |
| 15:04.14 | kaltorak | but the same problem |
| 15:04.18 | kaltorak | unknow filesystem |
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| 15:04.57 | kaltorak | third time I don't remember what I done, but problem still and I can't boot nothing, linux nor windows |
| 15:05.05 | kaltorak | what can I do ? |
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| 15:07.21 | OnkelTem_ | Hi all. I created ~/.bashrc but looks like it isn't tiggered at all. Why this could happen? |
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| 15:08.00 | OnkelTem | I have there a single line: export PATH=~/bin:$PATH |
| 15:08.11 | OnkelTem | but PATH is not extended with ~/bin after I relogin |
| 15:08.17 | abrotman | using which method of logging in ? |
| 15:08.21 | OnkelTem | ssh |
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| 15:08.51 | abrotman | what does it say at the top of .bashrc? |
| 15:09.58 | OnkelTem | abrotman: well, I had no .bashrc at all. Looks like the account was created without any templates. So now my .bashrc having 1 line - the one I created :) |
| 15:10.42 | OnkelTem | abrotman: I think I need .profile instead |
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| 15:12.19 | OnkelTem | abrotman: oh, .bashrc *is* triggered from lacking .profile (just checked this on my home system) :) |
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| 15:30.47 | [E]sc | i'm trying to install the nvidia drivers for my wheezy, but it hangs after i reply to if i want to back-up my old nvidia configurations, any suggestions on how to solve this? |
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| 15:35.27 | emss | [E]sc how are you installing them? |
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| 15:39.39 | [E]sc | emss, i'm using the instructions on this website: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 15:39.59 | [E]sc | emss, my video card is the geforce 210 |
| 15:40.35 | [E]sc | be right back... |
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| 15:47.10 | roue_ | hola |
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| 15:48.54 | roue_ | I'm running wheezy on a raspberry pi (raspbian) and trying to disable ifplugd via "insserv -r ifplugd" . I'm missing something because the service still starts up on boot. |
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| 15:49.13 | roue_ | Any help pointing me at the right way to do this would be appreciated. |
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| 15:49.54 | rozie | roue_: rcconf |
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| 15:50.27 | jelly | also, |
| 15:50.31 | jelly | !raspbian |
| 15:50.31 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 15:50.40 | roue_ | got it. |
| 15:50.42 | roue_ | Thanks. |
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| 15:52.55 | Zap-W | does someone know a website that rates high tech Salaries in Israel? |
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| 15:54.09 | shifty`` | I'm just doing a 'aptitude safe-upgrade' and the disk does it usual crunching away. I'm curious about how the system keeps track of installed packages. Is there some kind of database running this? |
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| 15:54.49 | jhutchins | shifty``: Yep. |
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| 15:55.20 | jhutchins | shifty``: Technically more than one, available vs. installed. |
| 15:56.12 | shifty`` | jhutchins: does it exist as a file? |
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| 15:57.47 | shifty`` | jhutchins: apart from something like /var/lib/dpkg/status - I'm interested why the disk needs to do so much to "install" a package. |
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| 15:58.50 | emss | shifty all files are not in the same location |
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| 16:00.07 | jhutchins | shifty``: It unpacks the archive, reads the material to see if there are any steps preceeding installation, puts the files where they need to go, makes what changes are needed afterward, updates the databases to record the file as installed whether manually or automatically, and tells you about it. |
| 16:00.50 | jhutchins | shifty``: I think the details are pretty well documented at the web site. |
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| 16:03.21 | shifty`` | jhutchins: it's the "update the databases to record..." part I was interested in. |
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| 16:11.14 | rannn | hi guys I have some free time this semester so I would like to start "contributing" to gnu/linux and/or debian. Do you have any ideas where to start? I mean are there any projects where there is elegant code + good documentation? |
| 16:11.43 | abrotman | rannn: debia.org/intro/help |
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| 16:11.58 | abrotman | rannn: debian.org/intro/help |
| 16:12.04 | abrotman | can spell Debian, really ... |
| 16:12.11 | rannn | thx |
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| 16:18.09 | vale | ciao |
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| 16:18.20 | vale | !list |
| 16:18.20 | dpkg | vale: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
| 16:18.22 | Asad3ainJalout | Hello guys, I have a couple of issues with my debian wheezy system that I need to get fixed up. The first one is kind of annoying. When i try to shutdown i type "su" then "shutdown now" I then get a message that goes along of the line of system shutting down for maintenance, type in root password or press ctlr-D to continue. typing in the password takes me too root and the cycle continues. typing in ctrl-D |
| 16:18.24 | Asad3ainJalout | goes to the login screen. basically I cannot shutdown without holding the power button. Any way to fix this? |
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| 16:22.22 | brick | Asad3ainJalout, i think you might have missed the first thing that happened when you tried to shut down, whatever triggered the maintenance thing; can you pastebin the whole experience? |
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| 16:24.00 | Asad3ainJalout | brick: alrighty gimme a sec |
| 16:24.02 | laydeeLoLz | hu |
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| 16:24.09 | laydeeLoLz | *hi |
| 16:24.31 | laydeeLoLz | guys, how do i move the /home folder to another partition? as it is its kinda big |
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| 16:25.28 | user6746112 | hi all. Is it possible using ssh to view the terminal output of a logged-in user on tty1? |
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| 16:27.11 | lgfpaula | laydeeLoLz: first format the new partition and copy the contents of the /home folder to it. Then, change the /etc/fstab file so that the new partition is mounted on /home. |
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| 16:28.00 | lgfpaula | after that, and after making shure the copy went well, you can empty the old /home |
| 16:28.28 | laydeeLoLz | lgfpaula: its an existing partition, im just moving the folder there not making home take over the whole partition |
| 16:28.34 | lgfpaula | then, "mount /home" should mount the new partition in the right place |
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| 16:30.16 | lgfpaula | laydeeLoLz: in that case, i'm not shure if a symbolic link would do the job. |
| 16:30.35 | laydeeLoLz | it would |
| 16:30.38 | laydeeLoLz | i have done it before |
| 16:31.18 | laydeeLoLz | my problem is that when i try to delete it, the error saying that is being used and cannot be used pops up |
| 16:31.23 | laydeeLoLz | how do i unlock it/ |
| 16:31.25 | laydeeLoLz | ? |
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| 16:31.45 | lgfpaula | you should exit any graphical session, go to console and log as root |
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| 16:31.59 | lgfpaula | then you should be able to delete it |
| 16:32.02 | laydeeLoLz | what i mean by pop is in term |
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| 16:32.22 | laydeeLoLz | rm: cannot remove `/home': Device or resource busy |
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| 16:33.02 | lgfpaula | use lsof to find out what is using the home folder |
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| 16:33.15 | lgfpaula | lsof -n | grep home |
| 16:33.20 | Xat` | I'm having a problem with getent passwd command when I have ldap backend with thousands users |
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| 16:33.52 | Xat` | getent passwd is very slow, so all service related on ldap user authentication hang |
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| 16:34.45 | ChrisH | Xat`: can to rule out, your LDAP is slow? |
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| 16:34.50 | laydeeLoLz | thanks will try tt |
| 16:34.55 | laydeeLoLz | hold on |
| 16:35.22 | Xat` | ChrisH: with 1 user I have no problem |
| 16:35.50 | ChrisH | Xat`: This does not answer my question. With only one user nearly everthing is fast |
| 16:35.55 | Xat` | and .. ldapsearch give me all users quickly |
| 16:35.59 | reavengrey | With 1 user, I aint got no worries |
| 16:36.26 | ChrisH | Xat`: LDAP Server is a differnt system? |
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| 16:37.33 | syeekick | heypeople |
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| 16:37.55 | Xat` | ChrisH: no ldap is on the same server . I use localhost |
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| 16:39.04 | ChrisH | Xat`: I personally would snoop/tcpdump an ldapsearch and a getent request and try to see if there is any difference on what the resolver does ask |
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| 16:39.55 | ChrisH | Xat`: but there might be smarter tests out there. |
| 16:40.37 | epta | How to add this repository http://packages.prosody.im/debian/dists/ to the apt-get? I've add it like `deb http://packages.prosody.im/debian wheezy main', but get and error `W: GPG error: http://packages.prosody.im wheezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 7393D7E674D9DBB5'. |
| 16:40.41 | epta | What am I doing wrong? |
| 16:40.41 | Xat` | all commands using passwd db hang, such as su or chown |
| 16:41.07 | Xat` | but no when I've only some ldap user |
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| 16:42.17 | mojzesz | Hi again i want to ask about easy way to install working java and flash on wheeze |
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| 16:42.47 | syeekick | i need to login into a channel wat is the command? |
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| 16:42.55 | nannes | Hi |
| 16:42.58 | nannes | I'm not a debian user |
| 16:43.07 | syeekick | is it / msg /NickServ USERNAME PASSOWRD?P |
| 16:43.31 | nannes | but I need to downgrade my qt4.8.2.5. to qt 4.8.1 on a debian testing |
| 16:43.39 | ChrisH | Xat`: I can imagine very well that it hangs, but you need to find out where the difference is between getent and ldapsearch and snooping on lcoalhost might be a way to find that out |
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| 16:44.05 | nannes | I've noticed you changed the meta-package name on debian, indeed qt-4.8etc doesn't find anything |
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| 16:44.26 | nannes | with prefix "libqt4" instead there are plenty of packages |
| 16:44.37 | nannes | but I don't wanna do it one-by-one |
| 16:44.52 | nannes | is there a way to downgrade all the QTs to 4.8.1? |
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| 16:51.41 | Asad3ainJalout | Hello guys, I have a couple of issues with my debian wheezy system that I need to get fixed up. The first one is kind of annoying. When i try to shutdown i type "su" then "shutdown now" I then get a message that goes along of the line of system shutting down for maintenance, type in root password or press ctlr-D to continue. typing in the password takes me too root and the cycle continues. typing in ctrl-D |
| 16:51.43 | Asad3ainJalout | goes to the login screen. basically I cannot shutdown without holding the power button. Any way to fix this? BTW here is the pastebin of the log http://pastebin.com/waxCfNi3 |
| 16:51.54 | emjotes | hello. I am trying to install gcc-4.7 via local packages because I have to compile a new kernel to get e1000e working. now dpkg says that gcc-4.7 would depend on gcc-4.7. I already have installed gcc-4.7-base. |
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| 16:56.19 | lgfpaula | Asad3ainJalout: The default for the shutdown command is to bring the system to runlevel 1 (single user) |
| 16:56.38 | lgfpaula | to shut the power down, use -h flag |
| 16:56.42 | nannes | Hi! I need to downgrade my qt4.8.2.5. to qt 4.8.1 on a debian testing. |
| 16:56.43 | nannes | I've noticed that you changed the meta-package name on debian, indeed qt-4.8etc doesn't show anything. |
| 16:56.43 | nannes | With prefix "libqt4", instead, there are plenty of packages. But I cannot downgrade them but I don't wanna downgrade them one-by-one! |
| 16:56.43 | nannes | Is there a way to downgrade all the QTs to 4.8.1? |
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| 16:58.06 | Asad3ainJalout | lgfpaula: Thanks so if i want to shutdown "su" "hunter2" "shutdown -h now" ? |
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| 16:58.44 | lgfpaula | yep |
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| 16:58.59 | Asad3ainJalout | Awesome onto issue number 2 :) |
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| 17:04.31 | petn-randall | nannes: jessie and sid are supported on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. You'll get help there. |
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| 17:04.49 | jelly | provided there's someone awake |
| 17:04.50 | petn-randall | nannes: This is the "stable only" support channel. |
| 17:04.50 | Asad3ainJalout | Ok my second issue is with sound. I have pulseaudio and alsa-utils installed. Now I have been recently having an issue with all linux distros I have tried in which auto jack sense does not work so I have always had to type "alsamixer" then press f6, select my sound card, unmute everything, and lower speaker volume to 0 and headphone and master volume to what i desire. However with debian wheezy something |
| 17:04.53 | Asad3ainJalout | weird happens. whenever I start a new process that runs sound, be it youtube videos, or cmus switching to the next track, everything will reset and i have to reswitch to my soundcard and reset everything. needless to say its a pain. Any help would be appreciated thank you |
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| 17:05.23 | nannes | ok I solved it anyway |
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| 17:05.34 | nannes | Installing the main package, the others will follow because they're dependencies |
| 17:05.37 | CissWit | Asad3ainJalout: i'm having the exact same problem and have no clue on this. |
| 17:05.51 | nannes | of course I have to set Pin-Priority to 1001 first |
| 17:05.58 | CissWit | Asad3ainJalout: feel free to hl me if you find one :) |
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| 17:06.32 | Asad3ainJalout | CissWit: It is very frustrating as the only time I realy listen to music is when im washing dishes, and its a paint o have to dry my hands etc |
| 17:06.42 | Asad3ainJalout | pain. |
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| 17:13.20 | chrisirc | Hello. I'm looking for a "df" that is able to report the mounts within a chroot correctly (with /etc/mtab symlinked to /proc/mounts) |
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| 17:16.20 | [E]sc | so i'm installing debian's nvidia drivers from their website https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers, but when i try to run the nvidia-settings to save the xong.conf, it doesn't save the settings properly. any ideas? i have 2 monitors attached to my video card. i'm using wheezy with geforce 210\ |
| 17:17.28 | babilen | [E]sc: You neither want nor need a /etc/X11/xorg.conf (that should be explained on the wiki) |
| 17:17.52 | babilen | Is it saing them "improperly" ? |
| 17:18.02 | jhutchins_wk | Asad3ainJalout: If you had boot messages turned on, you would see something about alsa attempting to restore saved settings. Aparently the settings are not saving for you. As far as I know this isn't a common failure, so there is something that's not working correctly in your alsa setup. Not being a common failure, you'll have to delve into the alsa documentation to see what it's doing and figure out where it's failing. |
| 17:18.11 | babilen | dpkg: tell [E]sc -about empty xorg.conf |
| 17:18.15 | babilen | dpkg: tell [E]sc -about xorg.conf.d |
| 17:18.48 | Asad3ainJalout | jhutchins_wk: Alrighty :( his will ake longer to fix than i thought. |
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| 17:19.18 | jhutchins_wk | Asad3ainJalout: With squeeze the solution to audio problems was usually "remove pulseaudio", but it's more deeply integrated in wheezy and that may no longer be practical. |
| 17:19.36 | jhutchins_wk | Asad3ainJalout: Which desktop are you using? |
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| 17:19.41 | [E]sc | babilen, thanks. that clears up 1/2 of my problems, but i still haven't figured out how to save the multiple monitor settings? |
| 17:20.05 | Asad3ainJalout | jhutchins_wk: I am using debian wheezy. the reason i switched to wheezy was that i was tired of all the configurations and settings i made in arch breaking with each -Syu |
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| 17:22.19 | babilen | [E]sc: You can either configure them "on-the-fly" using xrandr (e.g. "xrandr --output VGA1 --auto --output VGA2 --auto --right-of VGA1") or create a suitable configuration snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ with the suitable Screen/Server sections. See "man 5 xorg.conf" for details. let me check if I can find something short on a wiki or somewhere. |
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| 17:24.17 | [E]sc | babilen, thanks so much. i'll have a look at the man 5 xorg.conf,... |
| 17:24.29 | babilen | [E]sc: I think something like http://paste.debian.net/63962/ would be all you need .. run "xrandr -q" to get the identifier |
| 17:24.53 | babilen | [E]sc: I have a laptop and therefore switch all the time, but I think that's all you need :-/ |
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| 17:25.12 | grammoboy | is it possible to setup a mailinglist for a band without having your own server? (only wordpress website) |
| 17:26.05 | babilen | [E]sc: Put that in, say, /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/25-monitor.conf (you would also have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/25-nvidia.conf with the stuff from https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers) and you should be fine |
| 17:26.47 | [E]sc | babilen, awesome... actually, would it be possible to just copy that section from my old xorg.conf into the xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf? |
| 17:27.16 | [E]sc | babilen, great! thanks. just what i was hoping for! |
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| 17:29.55 | babilen | [E]sc: I prefer to separate the stuff semantically, but you can, naturally, put it all in one file. |
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| 17:32.51 | [E]sc | babilen, thanks. i'll test this out now. |
| 17:32.54 | [E]sc | be right back. |
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| 17:44.43 | fruitFly | i'm about to get my refurb laptop with windows 8 and no recovery disk, I plan on dual booting debian with a net install. i think I may have to do research on uefi boot to get it to work, not sure. I also don't know that much about linux architecture like the all the file system folders etc. and how exactly the sources list functions. I would appreciate any advice so as to help smoothen my breaking-in into debian. Any specific article |
| 17:44.46 | fruitFly | you recommend? |
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| 17:46.09 | mtn_ | fruitFly: I would recommend you start with the debian wiki. lots of good info for beginners |
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| 17:46.27 | fruitFly | mtn_: true, good idea :) |
| 17:46.27 | tormen_ | sharky_: vsftpd: Hmm, when I enable ssl, then I can login, but can't receive any data (like "ls" ;) ... (passive mode is set, without ssl it works fine) ... any idea ? |
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| 17:48.50 | fruitFly | mtn_: is there a way to clone my harddrive with the win8 install since i dnt have a recovery disk? |
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| 17:49.12 | mtn_ | fruitFly: no idea |
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| 17:49.42 | sharky_ | tormen_, I have used that in the past it worked, so maybe configuration issue, but better ask in #vsftpd |
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| 17:51.52 | lgfpaula | fruitFly: here you go: http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php |
| 17:52.17 | sharky_ | tormen_, the topics here should be #debian relevant |
| 17:52.45 | socomm | fruitFly: the windows 8 iso is freely available from microsoft |
| 17:53.08 | tormen_ | sharky_: but its a debian version of vsftpd ;) |
| 17:53.09 | socomm | fruitFly: and there are several programs out there that will let you extract your license key from your current windows install |
| 17:53.39 | jhutchins_wk | In order to mount USB drives user R/W, do you still need to put an entry for them in fstab? |
| 17:53.48 | jhutchins_wk | (In wheezy) |
| 17:54.03 | socomm | tormen_: sounds like a configuration issue |
| 17:54.16 | mtn_ | jhutchins_wk: nope, at least not on my computer ;) |
| 17:54.28 | sharky_ | tormen_, I can try to find my configuration and to share |
| 17:54.33 | tormen_ | socomm: yeah probably, I just have the feeling I tried all possible combinations of config options :( |
| 17:54.38 | socomm | tormen_: there is a #vsftpd channel |
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| 17:55.07 | jhutchins_wk | fruitFly: You may want to look at clonezilla to back up the existing installation. |
| 17:55.08 | fruitFly | socomm: ok thanks :), and is double driver still the best program to save all my win 8 drivers? |
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| 17:55.39 | fruitFly | lgfpaula: jhutchins_wk yes thanks |
| 17:55.42 | socomm | fruitFly: not sure, I usually just download drivers from the OEMs website |
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| 17:56.19 | tormen_ | sharky_: that would be great (old working config) |
| 17:56.42 | tormen_ | anyway I'll keep trying permutations ;) |
| 17:57.16 | fruitFly | socomm: is win8 set up with mbr or uefi? i remember reading a review of my laptop that in order to install mint he had to configure uefi stuff and some windows saftey boot something, but then he got it working. know anything about this? |
| 17:57.19 | jhutchins_wk | I suppose if we wanted to propose an intra-debian method we could suggest partclone. |
| 17:58.00 | jhutchins_wk | fruitFly: You can use uefi and gpt, but you need to disable secureboot and "fast boot" in the BIOS. |
| 17:58.57 | socomm | fruitFly: not sure, sorry |
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| 17:59.28 | fruitFly | jhutchins_wk: secureboot and "fast boot" are both in the bios? is it advantageous to use gpt over mbr? do I even have a choice i dual booting with win8? |
| 17:59.34 | fruitFly | in* dual |
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| 18:00.29 | rryoumaa | i have a hard drive connected via usb. i issued hdparm -Y, and it removed the device. how do i get the device back? |
| 18:00.51 | sharky_ | tormen_, http://paste.debian.net/63971/ |
| 18:00.51 | rryoumaa | (from software) |
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| 18:01.58 | sharky_ | tormen_, you should have the rest and your certificate should be correct of course |
| 18:03.54 | Blackvel | hi all. i upgraded today from debian squeeze 6.04 to 6.08. this includes some apache2 security fixes. |
| 18:05.13 | Xat` | i'm using smbclient with backend ldap users but ldap retrieves thousands of users, so smbclient authentication timed out |
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| 18:05.22 | Blackvel | my problem relies in the fact that my apache server gets hacked, scripts are downloaded to /tmp, executed as www-data and they even managed it that the programs in /tmp execute as /usr/sbin/cron. so a new crontab for www-data had been written. |
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| 18:06.19 | Blackvel | latest program started " 1 miner threads started, using 'scrypt' algorithm." "Starting Stratum on stratum+tcp:"... |
| 18:06.41 | tormen_ | sharky_: except the cipher option it's what I have... I think I'll just switch to sftp. |
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| 18:07.08 | tormen_ | It's a pity, I would have liked to understand. |
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| 18:08.11 | sharky_ | Its your decision, personally I like vsftpd |
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| 18:09.07 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: why you are sure, that your server was hacked over apache2? |
| 18:10.24 | Blackvel | in my access_log I can weird POST and POST /cgi-bin/php5 requests: http://pastebin.com/1qHpyXXa |
| 18:10.28 | Blackvel | I can see |
| 18:11.29 | Blackvel | let me say like that: my server was dead / not respondable anymore. root access doesn't look like to be hacked. but the scripts have been executed and even entered in crontab. all by letting apache download files to /tmp |
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| 18:13.36 | Blackvel | i am just curious if anything is well known about it (yes i know, i was not on latest security updated 6.0.8). will it be gone? would I have to dist-upgrade to weezy? |
| 18:13.44 | sharky_ | Blackvel, that is normal in the access log all servers out there are tested constantly, but the crontab is something else |
| 18:13.44 | ksk | ,version webalizer |
| 18:13.45 | judd | Package: webalizer on i386 -- squeeze: 2.01.10-32.7; wheezy: 2.23.05-1; jessie: 2.23.08-1; sid: 2.23.08-1 |
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| 18:14.43 | Blackvel | my provider told me that the server was dead because of probably too many tcp connections |
| 18:14.48 | sharky_ | Blackvel, you can find out which files were changed recently and check your logs in /var/log |
| 18:14.51 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: i have same entries in my access.log ... but i think with 404 error ... let me see |
| 18:14.51 | Blackvel | i could not even re-start it :) |
| 18:15.18 | sharky_ | ddos maybe? |
| 18:15.25 | Blackvel | at least I now know that they work |
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| 18:15.39 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: do you have snort running? |
| 18:15.48 | brilliant_ | or other ids? |
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| 18:16.10 | Blackvel | sharky_: after my provider killed the vserver system, deleted crontab and trojan www-data processes it worked again. i was logged in. same hacks again. same new processes starting up |
| 18:16.37 | Blackvel | not yet |
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| 18:18.45 | sharky_ | can you show us your crontab list |
| 18:19.43 | brilliant_ | only the relevated entries .. |
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| 18:20.33 | sharky_ | there shouldn't be too much entries in crontab |
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| 18:21.20 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: if you dont need the post method you can block it with a limit entry in default (sites-Available) |
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| 18:22.32 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: that is what i have done... and you need a ids.. it is fishing many out |
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| 18:24.39 | Blackvel | it is empty now. my host provider mailed me this morning: http://pastebin.com/qSYjChsx |
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| 18:25.38 | Blackvel | for the moment i only have fail2ban (with iptables). but it is not really checking those post and tmp downloads. thanx for your tip for snort |
| 18:25.39 | socomm | Blackvel: If I had to guess I would presume that the attacker is exploiting your PHP install |
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| 18:26.41 | Blackvel | php5-cgi module? at least they got updated to squeeze-17 (was 6 or something before) |
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| 18:27.12 | socomm | Blackvel: at this point a fresh install would probably best |
| 18:27.24 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: i have just checked my same entries... all POSTs were answered with 404 from apache... and so they are blocked automaticly |
| 18:27.38 | Blackvel | but mine where 200 |
| 18:27.53 | ikevin | asterisk running on www-data? oO |
| 18:28.05 | Blackvel | not even installed on that server |
| 18:28.12 | Blackvel | random bin names |
| 18:28.21 | tormen__ | sharky_: These are all my options: http://paste.debian.net/63973/ it does not work :/ |
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| 18:29.18 | Blackvel | back in 15-25 min |
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| 18:30.00 | socomm | ikevin: apache phone home |
| 18:30.45 | ikevin | asterisk has API, you don't need to run it on the same user than apache |
| 18:31.21 | Elemeno-work | asterisk also has a distribution of it's own |
| 18:31.37 | socomm | ikevin: Elemeno-work thats probably a rogue process |
| 18:32.45 | sharky_ | it is interesting why /var/spool/cron/crontabs/www-data is owned by www-data? |
| 18:33.14 | ksk | a users crontab has to be owned by user |
| 18:33.37 | sharky_ | my /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ is owned by root, so no www-data can write there |
| 18:33.58 | ikevin | socomm, there are some asterisk distrib's, so i've never seen that on |
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| 18:34.07 | ksk | but look at the groub. and the permissions sharky_ |
| 18:34.13 | ksk | *group |
| 18:35.22 | sharky_ | ksk I don't have any, but I think only root can create file in that dir |
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| 18:36.12 | socomm | ikevin: generally asterisk does not run under the www-data user |
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| 18:36.49 | sharky_ | although there exist also that crontab group with some T permission and alo write and execute, but not read |
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| 18:38.29 | sharky_ | ksk, my normal user can not create file /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ |
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| 18:39.54 | brilliant_ | i have no directory ... ls -l /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ ... its emty |
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| 18:40.26 | brilliant_ | *empty |
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| 18:43.42 | socomm | brilliant_: possibly because you've no scheduled jobs :^/ |
| 18:44.36 | socomm | sharky_: job is created with "crontab -e" not directly through editing files on crontab directory |
| 18:45.04 | brilliant_ | socomm: my crontab has 5 entries.. |
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| 18:45.41 | sharky_ | socomm, but then it should be owned by corntab group not www-data |
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| 18:51.43 | iateadonut | how do i search what package gives me the library 'libso.2'? |
| 18:51.54 | quinso | dpkg -S libso.2 |
| 18:51.54 | dpkg | There is no record of a libso.2 package |
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| 18:52.46 | iateadonut | thanks |
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| 18:54.14 | iateadonut | is there an apt-get equivalent of that? |
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| 18:55.07 | sharky_ | iateadonut, apt-cache search libso.2 |
| 18:55.10 | nkuttler | iateadonut: um.. no? what do you mean? |
| 18:55.51 | nkuttler | !tell iateadonut about apt-file |
| 18:55.59 | nkuttler | fwiw, doesn't seem to be in debian |
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| 18:59.07 | rryoumaa | i have a hard drive connected via usb. i issued hdparm -Y, and it removed the device from /dev. how do i get the device back using the command line? |
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| 19:01.23 | DammitJim | why would I want my process to run on run levels 2, 3, 4, and 5? |
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| 19:01.44 | DammitJim | does that mean if I say 2, 3, and 4 that it will not run on run level 5? |
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| 19:05.50 | jelly-home | debian does not use runlevels 3-5 by default at all, and all of 2-5 are usually kept the same |
| 19:05.51 | DammitJim | hhmmmm... do people still use condrestart? |
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| 19:06.04 | DammitJim | thanks jelly-home |
| 19:07.01 | sary | good evening all. |
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| 19:07.41 | sary | how is vga_switcheroo activated in debian ! |
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| 19:09.13 | lgfpaula | sary: you need to mount de debug filesystem |
| 19:09.35 | lgfpaula | and the radeon module must be active |
| 19:09.37 | sary | It's configuraed in the kernel, but when i mount debugfs the vga_switcheroo directory is not shown! |
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| 19:09.59 | lgfpaula | lsmod shows radeon loaded? |
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| 19:10.14 | Lorcatar | Hello, I downloaded netinst 64 bit amd with firmware. Will this install the drivers for wifi? I tried regular netinstall but no drivers and then I had a problem and the system broke. |
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| 19:12.07 | sary | lgfpaula: Yes. |
| 19:13.09 | sary | lgfpaula: and ' radeon.dpm=1 ' is set as a kernel boot option, |
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| 19:13.51 | lgfpaula | sary: in my machine, just by mounting debugfs enables /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo |
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| 19:14.43 | lgfpaula | sary: maybe there's some info on syslog |
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| 19:16.21 | sary | lgfpaula: and you didn't have to boot with radeon.dpm=1 ! |
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| 19:16.47 | lgfpaula | sary: no |
| 19:16.52 | sary | lgfpaula: maybe! will have a look at it, thank you. |
| 19:17.00 | sary | lgfpaula: I see! |
| 19:17.24 | sary | which kernel verion you're booting that machine? |
| 19:17.43 | sary | http://pastebin.com/4Q0Nxik3 |
| 19:18.16 | lgfpaula | sary: Linux luizdepaula-note 3.10-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.10.11-1 (2013-09-10) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 19:18.33 | karlpinc | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:18.33 | dpkg | The PCI ID helps us work out how to support your PCI hardware. It looks like [abcd:1234] in the output of "lspci -nn". Ask the bot "judd" to match the PCI ID of the device, e.g. "/msg judd pciid 8086:284b". Some hardware uses alternate means of detection: beware of some false positives+negatives. See also <judd-hardware>, <local pciid>. To find out what currently installed kernel modules your hardware is using, run "lspci -k". |
| 19:18.38 | Blackvel | sharky_: same for me. drwx-wx--T 2 root crontab 4096 Nov 4 09:57 crontabs. but the program has been executed as www-data and called /usr/sbin/cron and managed to let it write its own file without directly writing to the crontabs/www-data directory! |
| 19:19.10 | sary | lgfpaula: thank you, 3.11 here! |
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| 19:20.28 | lgfpaula | sary: dmesg shows: VGA switcheroo: detected switching method \_SB_.PCI0.GFX0.ATPX handle |
| 19:20.41 | DammitJim | is there something special I need to do to run a java application as a service or can I just create an init script to start|stop|restart it? |
| 19:20.53 | Blackvel | what do you guys think? is the apache2 2.2.16-6+squeeze11 and php5-cgi 5.3.3-7+squeeze17 as safe as the versions on latest weezy? |
| 19:21.06 | lgfpaula | DammitJim: just like any other app |
| 19:21.23 | Blackvel | 2.4 is up to date? |
| 19:21.27 | DammitJim | oh ok, but when I check the PID, it's going to say java, right? |
| 19:21.31 | lgfpaula | but there's apache commons daemon that can be of help |
| 19:21.37 | lgfpaula | yeah |
| 19:21.47 | lgfpaula | it's kind of messy |
| 19:21.58 | lgfpaula | I prefer to use commons.daemon |
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| 19:23.46 | jelly-home | ,i jsvc |
| 19:23.47 | judd | Package jsvc (utils, optional) in wheezy/i386: wrapper to launch Java applications as daemons. Version: 1.0.10-3; Size: 26.6k; Installed: 85k; Homepage: http://commons.apache.org/daemon/ |
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| 19:26.02 | DammitJim | oh gosh, I need a wrapper? |
| 19:26.54 | DammitJim | jelly-home, 'cause when one runs a java app, the lock in subsystem is probably java, right? |
| 19:28.11 | Blackvel | how does that work with apache2 2.2.25 stable backports to squeeze 2.2.16? |
| 19:28.25 | jelly-home | dunno about locks, but jsvc seems to work for me |
| 19:28.42 | Blackvel | is is the 2.2.16-squeezeX version which counts? |
| 19:28.51 | DammitJim | what's special about jsvc? |
| 19:28.57 | Blackvel | are security fixed backports to 2.2.16-11? |
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| 19:29.25 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: do you have a cms or do you have a more simple site |
| 19:29.29 | jelly-home | there's nothing special about it, I mentioned it because we use it and it work |
| 19:29.30 | jelly-home | s. |
| 19:29.39 | DammitJim | oh cool! thanks! |
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| 19:30.25 | jelly-home | and because lgfpaula mentioned it |
| 19:30.53 | lgfpaula | DammitJim: For it to work, you must implement a interface from commons.daemon |
| 19:31.05 | DammitJim | why? |
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| 19:32.09 | lgfpaula | jsvc uses this to implement the service signals |
| 19:32.34 | lgfpaula | so it expects that your app has a certain signature |
| 19:32.44 | Blackvel | brilliant_: only simple site. but one site uses a self-programmed php. but the security whole does not seem to get into by using that. it is direct code downloads by apache. |
| 19:32.46 | lgfpaula | but it's quite simple |
| 19:32.56 | Blackvel | security hole |
| 19:32.58 | lgfpaula | as jelly-home mentioned |
| 19:33.03 | DammitJim | oh man, I just realized I have to do this on Red Hat 6 |
| 19:33.10 | lgfpaula | and works flawlessly |
| 19:33.17 | DammitJim | more crap to dig through |
| 19:34.23 | lgfpaula | DammitJim: that's sad... |
| 19:34.32 | DammitJim | what is? |
| 19:34.40 | lgfpaula | red hat |
| 19:34.42 | lgfpaula | :-) |
| 19:34.46 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: you can also test and install another web server |
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| 19:37.29 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: but how to check all your scripts or programs of rogue parts |
| 19:37.53 | Blackvel | http://pastebin.com/1qHpyXXa |
| 19:38.16 | Blackvel | well, it is something else downloaded / executed |
| 19:39.26 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: have you did some security settings in apaches conf.d/security |
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| 19:43.06 | msn | is there a separate channel for corosync/pacemaker? |
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| 19:43.41 | msn | found it thanks |
| 19:44.26 | socomm | Blackvel: reinstall your operating system |
| 19:44.38 | socomm | Blackvel: who knows what else might be installed that you don't know about |
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| 19:44.56 | Blackvel | brilliant_: looks like I never touched that file :( |
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| 19:46.44 | IzarrenHautsa | Hi, I just need some american to translate this to centimeters please: |
| 19:46.50 | IzarrenHautsa | Size: 4 3/4”W x 6 1/2”L x 3 1/2”H |
| 19:46.55 | IzarrenHautsa | I dont understand that, help? |
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| 19:47.20 | up365 | use freakin google idiot |
| 19:47.27 | well_laid_lawn | inches to centimeters you multiply by 2.54 |
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| 19:47.50 | brilliant_ | socomm: yes, you are right.. but Blackvel ... you have to inform yourself to secure your system.. apache too |
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| 19:48.39 | jelly-home | up365: be polite to idiots please. |
| 19:48.42 | jelly-home | IzarrenHautsa: https://www.google.com/search?q=4+3%2F4+in+to+cm |
| 19:48.52 | socomm | IzarrenHautsa: google can do that for you |
| 19:48.56 | Blackvel | if I know what is going on behind the scene and how to do it...yes I will try my best |
| 19:48.57 | IzarrenHautsa | but what is 4 3/4"W? |
| 19:49.17 | IzarrenHautsa | 4+1/4? |
| 19:49.20 | jelly-home | IzarrenHautsa: Width, Length, Height |
| 19:49.21 | up365 | yes, sorry |
| 19:49.26 | IzarrenHautsa | thanks |
| 19:49.45 | jelly-home | IzarrenHautsa: " means "inch", so 4 3/4 in |
| 19:49.57 | jelly-home | imperial units are horribly silly |
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| 19:50.08 | IzarrenHautsa | thanks |
| 19:50.18 | IzarrenHautsa | hanks jelly-home |
| 19:50.44 | Blackvel | cythrawll on #php gave me a tip about php-cgi <5.3.12 (squeeze with older security had 5.3.3-7). http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2012-1823. i just need to check if php-cgi-5.3.3.7-squeeze17 fixes that vulnerability I had previous in -squeeze6 or was it 8. |
| 19:50.51 | IzarrenHautsa | :D |
| 19:50.53 | IzarrenHautsa | is happy |
| 19:50.53 | IzarrenHautsa | :D |
| 19:50.53 | jelly-home | IzarrenHautsa: please use #defocus or at least #debian-offtopic next time |
| 19:51.04 | IzarrenHautsa | I will jelly-home |
| 19:51.17 | jelly-home | Blackvel: /msg dpkg cve lookup CVE-2012-1823 |
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| 19:51.25 | Blackvel | I guess I have to recheck the webpage if I can thro away php-cgi. Can't remember anymore why it had to be enabled. probably because of selfwritten cms |
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| 19:51.47 | Blackvel | too long ago... |
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| 19:53.26 | gQuigs | If I would like to propose to remove the package "rar" because it's non-free and only serves the purpose of increasing the use of the non-free unrar program, how should I do that? |
| 19:53.35 | gQuigs | see here for some backstory: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/fsf-collab-discuss/2012-October/000284.html |
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| 19:54.06 | gQuigs | I don't see anything that paticularly matches for a "REASON" here: http://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.html |
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| 19:55.05 | t0ke | :q |
| 19:55.39 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: yes... use only the mods you need |
| 19:55.49 | jelly-home | gQuigs: that thing is already in non-free repo only |
| 19:56.12 | jelly-home | nothing to remove from Debian proper |
| 19:56.19 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: if you dont need POST method then block it |
| 19:58.34 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: servertokens prod serversignatur off in security |
| 19:58.38 | gQuigs | jelly-home: I'm aware of that.. (that was an entire subtopic of that mailing list on that...) |
| 19:58.49 | gQuigs | jelly-home: how would I propose removing it from non-free? |
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| 20:05.59 | KBme | hello |
| 20:06.27 | KBme | goes anyone know how to generate a crypted password for use in the shadow file? I can't seem to figure it out … |
| 20:06.31 | jelly-home | gQuigs: I have no idea about that, sorry |
| 20:06.34 | KBme | does* |
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| 20:08.42 | brilliant_ | KBme: yes there is a way... let me think |
| 20:09.03 | socomm | Blackvel: you might want to look at mod_security and a chrooted apache install |
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| 20:09.27 | KBme | it's weird, even with mkpasswd I can't get it to generate the same string as what I have in shadow |
| 20:10.54 | brilliant_ | KBme: thats normal i think.. generate password hashes is not like md5sum |
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| 20:11.02 | KBme | oh, it's different each time because a salt is used |
| 20:11.04 | KBme | crud |
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| 20:11.39 | KBme | ok thanks |
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| 20:12.15 | pestilence | is there a way to nicely preview documents in nautilus, e.g. PDF's or images? |
| 20:12.22 | pestilence | thumbnails just isn't cutting it |
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| 20:13.26 | j7j3 | drag them into iceweasel |
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| 20:14.57 | pestilence | j7j3: if i wanted to go that route, I'd just open them. |
| 20:15.04 | pestilence | (with okular) |
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| 20:15.26 | pestilence | nautilus is apparently missing a nice way to flip through documents. |
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| 20:17.01 | j7j3 | most people have browsers open anyway and browsing pdf in it saves having a seperate viewer |
| 20:17.53 | pestilence | j7j3: yes, but say you have >5 PDFs in the same folder, and know which one you want but not the name. is opening the file an efficient way to find the one you are looking for? |
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| 20:18.04 | pestilence | j7j3: actually, images is a better example. |
| 20:18.28 | jhutchins_wk | pestilence: It's really the only way. |
| 20:18.32 | j7j3 | images i guess you use a file manager with thumbnails like thunar |
| 20:18.35 | pestilence | on OS X, you can switch the view to something that resembles a flipbook and scroll through them. |
| 20:18.54 | pestilence | looks up thunar |
| 20:18.59 | gQuigs | pestilence: view as icons, and then zoom in |
| 20:19.07 | jhutchins_wk | pestilence: thumbnails are the result of the software opening the files and generating new, smaller versions (which are then stored somewhere). |
| 20:19.16 | abrotman | pestilence: have you tried zooming in ? |
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| 20:19.41 | jhutchins_wk | gQuigs: That would mean reading the entirety of the image into the program in order to present the zoomable icon. |
| 20:19.43 | abrotman | pestilence: nautilius defaults to fairly smaller thumbnails, but you can zoom in to make them larger |
| 20:19.47 | pestilence | gQuigs, abrotman: yes, I've tried that. Two problems: 1) it's slow. 2) the maximum resolution isn't high enough to read anything on the first page of the PDF |
| 20:19.57 | horst3 | Witch Version of BSD/darwin Cocca is needed to use the view switching? |
| 20:20.13 | abrotman | horst3: wrong channel? |
| 20:20.13 | jhutchins_wk | pestilence: Perhaps a bigger monitor? |
| 20:20.27 | pestilence | jhutchins_wk: haha, not my monitor's resolution, the thumbnails resolution |
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| 20:20.44 | abrotman | pestilence: it shouldn't be that slow, I use it all the time on directories with a hundred pictures, etc |
| 20:20.51 | jhutchins_wk | pestilence: Which would resolve to a larger image on a larger monitor (just got the wife a 24 and I'm jealous). |
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| 20:21.11 | pestilence | abrotman: it's pretty slow when i open up a directory with ~100 scanned PDF's. It takes several minutes to load the thumbnails. |
| 20:21.14 | abrotman | monitor envy ... |
| 20:21.29 | abrotman | pestilence: on PDFs, I'm sure. I don't have that many PDFs on my entire laptop :) |
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| 20:21.32 | DexterF | hi |
| 20:21.38 | abrotman | pestilence: but it may only do it once, not sure |
| 20:21.43 | jhutchins_wk | pestilence: In a folder full of PDFs you would be dealing with a lot of data, and you'd need to keep the maximum zoom images for all of them buffered to enable that. |
| 20:21.47 | mshindo | hi guys, does anyone here know how I can make a deb package I am creating run m-a after installation ? |
| 20:21.54 | mshindo | rather than just telling the user to do it |
| 20:21.54 | pestilence | jhutchins_wk: no...a higher resolution monitor does not somehow make low resolution png's have more resolution ;) |
| 20:22.04 | DexterF | moving to SSD: "leave 10% unused" still true for current devices like a samsung 840 evo? |
| 20:22.27 | jhutchins_wk | pestilence: True, but they might be more legible. Depends on the case. |
| 20:22.29 | pestilence | jhutchins_wk: I agree, it presents a technical challenge. But... "OS X and windows do it" :-P |
| 20:22.30 | Blackvel | just wanted to say thanks to you guys for helping me out with this php / CVE track-down! |
| 20:22.52 | pestilence | there is evidently a plugin that tries to replicate this, it's called clutterflow |
| 20:23.25 | abrotman | pestilence: have you tried reopening the directory after it thumbs them ? |
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| 20:23.48 | pestilence | abrotman: well, that will fix the loading time, but not the resolution of the thumbs. |
| 20:23.49 | jhutchins_wk | pestilence: I would expect it to take significant hardware resources no matter who did it. There's no magic that lets you read every fifth pixel of an image withouot reading over the intervening four. |
| 20:23.53 | Blackvel | just wanted to say thanks to you guys for helping me out with this php vulnerability / CVE track-down! |
| 20:24.06 | abrotman | pestilence: sure .. just curious |
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| 20:24.24 | jhutchins_wk | pestilence: Are you working with one of the "3D" desktops? |
| 20:24.28 | pestilence | jhutchins_wk: I know, but I guess you'd have to try using a macbook to understand. It's really a nice feature, and it works well even on my old macbook. |
| 20:24.39 | pestilence | jhutchins_wk: I am using gnome-shell, so yes. |
| 20:24.49 | jhutchins_wk | pestilence: I have a g4. |
| 20:25.05 | abrotman | a "3D" desktop isn't relevant here .. |
| 20:25.06 | pestilence | jhutchins_wk: have you ever tried thumbing through a directory of PDF's or images? |
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| 20:25.20 | jhutchins_wk | (Or is it a G3? The big heavy metal one with a PPC) |
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| 20:25.37 | pestilence | jhutchins_wk: no idea, i'm not a mac guy :) |
| 20:26.14 | pestilence | but there are just some features that are so nice that you wish you had them on your primary debian box |
| 20:26.17 | jhutchins_wk | pestilence: I'm aware that OSX prsents the illusion of scalable images - but it uses the whole, max-res image to do that. |
| 20:26.42 | pestilence | jhutchins_wk: with PDF's, it is truly scalable. |
| 20:26.58 | fnordperfect | pestilence: this flip through feature just isn´t available with Nautilus. You could give gnome-sushi a try, which is a quick file previewer (just hit space and see the document in a pop up window) |
| 20:27.05 | jhutchins_wk | pestilence: You seem to be in one of the Gnomes, which I avoid, so I don't know at which stage the "3D" elements become available, but I would expect those to be the necessary basis for what you want. |
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| 20:27.20 | abrotman | it's not relevant, it's a 2d preview |
| 20:27.36 | pestilence | fnordperfect: ok, thanks. I will give gnome-sushi a try. |
| 20:27.44 | pestilence | abrotman: it sorta is 3D. |
| 20:27.54 | jhutchins_wk | abrotman: That's not what 2D vs 3D means in terms of desktops. |
| 20:28.08 | abrotman | because you've redefined it? |
| 20:28.16 | pestilence | abrotman: here's the mac version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cover_Flow |
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| 20:28.29 | jhutchins_wk | abrotman: No, because unlike you I actually know somethnig about rendering graphics. |
| 20:28.39 | abrotman | you sure do .. |
| 20:28.43 | abrotman | you know everything .. |
| 20:28.55 | pestilence | simma down now |
| 20:29.08 | abrotman | pestilence: that's the Mac version of what? |
| 20:29.12 | jhutchins_wk | abrotman: I don't uselessly snipe at people. |
| 20:29.17 | pestilence | abrotman: of the feature I'm describing. |
| 20:29.19 | abrotman | yes, you do, you just did |
| 20:29.35 | jhutchins_wk | Sigh. Brotman world wins again. |
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| 20:30.02 | abrotman | pestilence: but that's not how nautilus thumbs things, right? |
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| 20:31.02 | pestilence | abrotman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3gnj2Qnpxo |
| 20:31.08 | pestilence | watch the beginning, then watch at 1:27 |
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| 20:31.24 | pestilence | cover flow treats PDFs the same way it treats album covers. you can scan through them quickly. |
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| 20:32.59 | socomm | How is this different from file manager creating thumbnails of a PDF? |
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| 20:38.21 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: something new? |
| 20:38.34 | abrotman | pestilence_afk: did you try the gnome-sushi yet? |
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| 20:39.17 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: i have same code in log ... IP 94.23.222.158 |
| 20:40.17 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: but posted to POST // not bin-cgi |
| 20:40.36 | romm | hello. i added emdebian to my /etc/apt/sources.list and ran apt-get update, but i can't find cross compilers when i do 'apt-cache search gcc'. what am i doing wrong? |
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| 20:41.59 | brilliant_ | Blackvel: add <Limit POST PUT DELETE CONNECT> Require valid-user </Limit> to your /etc/apache2/sites-available/default |
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| 20:47.56 | DammitJim | who was it that said they have used jsvc? |
| 20:48.13 | honest_man | blub |
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| 20:48.38 | jelly-home | DammitJim: boo. |
| 20:48.52 | DammitJim | jelly-home, did it! |
| 20:49.07 | jelly-home | !give DammitJim a cookie |
| 20:49.07 | dpkg | gives DammitJim a home-baked chocolate chip cookie to cheer him up. |
| 20:49.09 | DammitJim | please bare with me... did you happen to use this: http://wrapper.tanukisoftware.com/doc/english/launch-nix.html#scripts |
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| 20:50.31 | jelly-home | DammitJim: that's java service wrapper, a different thing from jsvc (http://commons.apache.org/daemon/) |
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| 20:50.56 | DammitJim | interesting... 'cause java service wrapper is what they have used here before |
| 20:51.13 | socomm | !give socomm a cookie |
| 20:51.13 | dpkg | gives socomm a home-baked fortune cookie to cheer him up. |
| 20:51.17 | jelly-home | it has some nice features as well afair |
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| 20:54.57 | romm | what's the easiest way to obtain a cross-compiler toolchain in debian? |
| 20:55.43 | jelly-home | romm: for which architecture? I get armhf from emdebian |
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| 20:56.23 | jelly-home | toys with http://linux-sunxi.org/Building_on_Debian |
| 20:56.42 | romm | jelly-home, mips and arm. currently stuck on mips with emdebian. if interested, scroll up a bit for my question about emdebian |
| 20:57.07 | romm | or rather... my question about apt (i'm an apt noob, i guess) |
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| 20:57.47 | jelly-home | romm: sunxi people have specific steps listed to set things up. It was easy to cross-compile a kernel after that |
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| 20:58.25 | jelly-home | a possibly relevant quote > Currently usable armhf compilers are available only in sid. |
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| 20:59.15 | jelly-home | !emdebian |
| 20:59.15 | dpkg | Emdebian is a binary distribution for embedded devices. It is created by the Embedded Debian project, an official Debian sub-project, which aims to make Debian GNU/Linux a mainstream choice for embedded projects. http://wiki.debian.org/Embedded_Debian http://www.emdebian.org/ #emdebian on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 20:59.34 | jelly-home | note their channel is not on Freenode but on irc.oftc.net |
| 20:59.55 | romm | oh, didn't notice they have one. i'll take a look, thanks. |
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| 21:02.42 | DammitJim | jelly, is jsvc a Debian package? |
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| 21:03.03 | jelly-home | DammitJim: yes. That's why the bot knew about it. |
| 21:03.17 | jelly-home | ,v jsvc |
| 21:03.18 | judd | Package: jsvc on i386 -- squeeze: 1.0.2-2; jessie: 1.0.10-3; wheezy: 1.0.10-3; sid: 1.0.15-3 |
| 21:03.34 | DammitJim | oh, got it |
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| 21:04.33 | pestilence | abrotman: yes, I did try gnome-sushi |
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| 21:04.59 | dym | Hey all - im trying to establish loadbalancing for a highly-frequented php website. i've considered nginx, haproxy and pound for loadbalancing. does anyone have experience with those and can tell me something? |
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| 21:18.22 | nicoo | Hi |
| 21:18.33 | nicoo | Anu netwrok wiz around ? |
| 21:18.37 | nicoo | Any* |
| 21:18.38 | refrax | if I am installing Debian on a PC with 4GB of ram, is there a downside to not using a swap partition? |
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| 21:19.27 | nicoo | I need to add 2 addresses as aliases to an existing interface. Unfortunately, those do not live in the same network (not the same CIDR, gateway, ...) |
| 21:19.32 | nicoo | How may I do this ? |
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| 21:20.02 | nicoo | (I was told I might need source routing, but I didn't find any good reference on this) |
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| 21:21.08 | socomm | nicoo: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.simple.html -- this? |
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| 21:21.44 | nicoo | socomm: Thanks, I'm going to read this |
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| 21:23.25 | nicoo | socomm: Heh, this doesn't actually explain much |
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| 21:24.01 | nicoo | will search some more |
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| 21:25.38 | nicoo | wiki.debian.org is currently broken :( |
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| 21:27.53 | dondelelcaro | nicoo: works for me... |
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| 21:29.09 | nicoo | Ah, I see. |
| 21:29.18 | nicoo | 403 Forbidden only from Tor. |
| 21:29.23 | nicoo | So unkind :( |
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| 21:36.07 | sadwolf | ponshi ponshi po po po |
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| 21:37.05 | luichi | hello |
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| 21:37.31 | luichi | maybe the guide is outdaded because if i run i get depmod -ae WARNING: -e needs -E or -F |
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| 21:50.26 | luichi | anyone? |
| 21:50.50 | sadwolf | about your question |
| 21:50.52 | sadwolf | no one |
| 21:51.03 | sadwolf | everyone get scared XD |
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| 22:04.04 | dondelelcaro | MrColin: please turn off your away notification script (at least in this channel) |
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| 22:57.29 | DanielDiaz | hi there! I am trying to install audacious by "apt-get install audacious" but I am getting the following error message: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: libdconf1 : Breaks: gdm3 (< 3.4.1-9) but 3.4.1-8 is to be installed". Any way to get over this? thank you! |
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| 22:58.27 | themill | DanielDiaz: which version of debian do you think you're running here? It sounds like a mixture of wheezy and jessie |
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| 22:58.58 | DanielDiaz | themill: haha totally. I needed some stuff from jessie to get another program working... |
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| 22:59.13 | DanielDiaz | themill: how did you know so fast??? |
| 22:59.35 | themill | because wheezy is never going to have that problem |
| 22:59.59 | amdp | hi all I'm on a kvm and I have to fix ssh on a very small debian install. How do I check what's wrong? |
| 23:00.37 | DanielDiaz | themill: so... what options do I have? |
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| 23:01.10 | themill | DanielDiaz: what packages have you installed from jessie? |
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| 23:02.28 | DanielDiaz | themill: I don't remember exactly which ones... I installed one with its dependencies to get Hamachi working. |
| 23:02.43 | amdp | ps -A | grep ssh gives me 1812 ? 00:00:00 sshd |
| 23:04.09 | peterS | amdp: so what exactly is broken about it? |
| 23:04.37 | peterS | amdp: I mean: when you 'ssh -v' to it, do you get 'connection refused' or do you get some other error after it has connected, or...? |
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| 23:05.34 | amdp | peterS it just times out |
| 23:05.50 | amdp | if I ssh user@IP |
| 23:06.00 | peterS | amdp: as root, try 'netstat -ntpl | grep :22' to see if sshd is listening on 0.0.0.0:22 |
| 23:06.46 | peterS | normally you'll see the "1812/sshd" process listening on 0.0.0.0:22 (ipv4) and :::22 (ipv6) |
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| 23:07.27 | amdp | I rebooted |
| 23:07.35 | amdp | couldn't load network/interfaces |
| 23:07.50 | peterS | ah, there you go then. did you figure out the problem in that file? |
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| 23:07.55 | DanielDiaz | themill: what's the problem exactly? Is that I have a newer version of this gdm3 package than what audacious accepts? |
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| 23:08.25 | amdp | peterS I'm on it now I'll tell you |
| 23:09.20 | amdp | seems to be everything alright |
| 23:09.34 | peterS | amdp: I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be a case of wrong (possibly randomly generated) MAC address and thus your 'eth0' becomes 'eth1' or something and therefore /etc/network/interfaces does not refer to it |
| 23:09.57 | peterS | amdp: 'ip a' will show the interfaces on the live system - they should match what is in /etc/network/interfaces - if they don't, that'll be the problem |
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| 23:10.09 | amdp | I copied the MAC address before booting in the small debian installation |
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| 23:10.43 | amdp | 1: lo |
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| 23:10.48 | amdp | 2: eth0 |
| 23:10.53 | amdp | so eth0 is fine |
| 23:11.22 | peterS | right. what does /etc/network/interfaces have in it for eth0? If it's more than two lines, please use a paste site rather than trying to paste here |
| 23:11.34 | amdp | sure |
| 23:11.36 | amdp | thanks |
| 23:12.00 | amdp | I can't copy and paste but I'll write it down |
| 23:12.11 | peterS | (or convert line breaks to " " or something, the lines are simple enough that it's not that hard to read it that way) |
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| 23:18.41 | amdp | http://paste.debian.net/64026/ |
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| 23:18.57 | amdp | I just avoided to copy the comments |
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| 23:19.32 | lysobit | sbp++ that config saver lock system of yours works really well |
| 23:19.43 | lysobit | oops |
| 23:19.46 | lysobit | wrong channel |
| 23:19.48 | peterS | amdp: looks fine really |
| 23:20.06 | amdp | peterS I know but there should be something wrong |
| 23:20.09 | peterS | amdp: (note lines 10-11 are not needed as they repeat lines 1-2, but possibly that's just you retyping stuff) |
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| 23:20.36 | amdp | no it's wrong |
| 23:20.41 | amdp | I'm editing that out |
| 23:20.46 | peterS | amdp: one thing: I would remove the 'network' and 'broadcast' lines. 99.999% of the time they are either redundant (if they're correct) or inconsistent (if they aren't) |
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| 23:21.46 | peterS | amdp: also in debian wheezy you can omit the netmask line if you want, in favor of a simpler 'address 95.110.226.81/21' |
| 23:22.08 | peterS | by simplifying these things, it makes it easier to tell whether you have any stupid typos |
| 23:22.20 | peterS | (I mean, I don't see any typos, but....) |
| 23:22.30 | amdp | right |
| 23:22.38 | amdp | auto eth0 is needed? |
| 23:22.47 | peterS | yes. it means bring up eth0 at boot time. |
| 23:23.11 | peterS | the other way to do that is 'allow-hotplug eth0' which means bring eth0 up whenever the kernel initializes the NIC and tells udev about it |
| 23:23.21 | peterS | that's actually preferred these days, I think |
| 23:24.02 | peterS | amdp: so anyway, try this: ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
| 23:24.13 | amdp | I'm rebooting |
| 23:24.25 | amdp | is there a way to slowdown the kernel while it loads? |
| 23:24.36 | peterS | you can hit ctrl-s to pause the screen |
| 23:24.38 | amdp | just to check errors? |
| 23:24.40 | peterS | and ctrl-q to unpause |
| 23:24.41 | amdp | ok great |
| 23:24.45 | amdp | thanks |
| 23:24.49 | peterS | but of course you have to be quick on the trigger (: |
| 23:25.03 | bchamberlain | peterS you can do ipaddress/subnet now in interfaces? nice.. |
| 23:25.14 | peterS | bchamberlain: yeah, I think that's new in the wheezy version of ifupdown |
| 23:25.28 | buu_ | What exactly does the 'keycode' field of the output of xev mean? |
| 23:25.29 | buu_ | And how is that related to keysym? |
| 23:25.42 | peterS | bchamberlain: especially for amdp's case where the netmask is not a multiple of 8 bits, expressing it as a.b.c.d/n really helps with readability IMO |
| 23:25.52 | amdp | peterS it works : ) |
| 23:25.58 | amdp | thanks so much |
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| 23:26.00 | peterS | amdp: what did you change, then? |
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| 23:26.09 | peterS | I mean I know you removed the extra copy of the 'lo' lines.... |
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| 23:26.13 | bchamberlain | peterS bigtime. Really nice subtle improvement! |
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| 23:26.22 | amdp | just cut off network , extra lines etc |
| 23:26.35 | peterS | bchamberlain: I'm pretty sure the 'inet6' form alraedy allowed a:b:c:d:e:f:g:h/n syntax |
| 23:26.41 | amdp | didn't add 'allow-hotplug eth0' |
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| 23:27.04 | peterS | amdp: well, I still don't see the typo in 'network' or 'broadcast' or 'netmask', but if you got it to work by removing that extra stuff, great! |
| 23:27.14 | amdp | eheh |
| 23:27.23 | amdp | uh-oh |
| 23:27.28 | jtran | anyone know much about preseed? I've got most of it working but the part where i force static ip doesn't appear to work. it continues to try to attempt dhcp even when i specify static ip. i suspect i need to declare it in isolinux.cfg , which i've tried, but i'm uncertain about the syntax |
| 23:27.31 | peterS | maybe there was a typo that you accidentally fixed when retyping into the paste bin (: |
| 23:27.47 | amdp | ahahaha.. now I got a warning from the client |
| 23:28.00 | amdp | remote host identification has changed |
| 23:28.02 | amdp | well |
| 23:28.08 | amdp | I changed everything there |
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| 23:28.44 | peterS | ahh yeah. so edit your .ssh/known_hosts file to remove the old host key. One easy way: just delete the line with sed. If ssh says it was on line 51, do: sed -i 51d ~/.ssh/known_hosts |
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| 23:29.18 | peterS | -i means edit the file in place; 51d means delete line 51 and since that's the only sed command, all other lines go straight through into the new version of the file |
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| 23:30.14 | amdp | nice thanks |
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| 23:30.29 | peterS | no problem, sed -i is how I almost always solve this particular problem |
| 23:31.16 | amdp | it tells me invalid command code |
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| 23:31.25 | amdp | I'm on a mac in the client |
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| 23:31.40 | peterS | sed should still support the NNNd command, even on a mac (: |
| 23:31.42 | amdp | I can 'vi' edit the file |
| 23:31.47 | peterS | but sure, do that |
| 23:31.57 | amdp | how do I kill a line in vi? |
| 23:32.01 | peterS | dd |
| 23:32.09 | peterS | after you type :51 <enter> to go to line 51, that is |
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| 23:32.40 | amdp | did it |
| 23:33.23 | amdp | I'm in! :) |
| 23:33.30 | peterS | yay! |
| 23:33.35 | amdp | wheeew |
| 23:33.49 | amdp | two days lol |
| 23:33.59 | amdp | the BIG part is done : ) |
| 23:34.16 | peterS | hmmmmm ... not too many people who can deal with /21 netmasks do not know how to delete a line in vi (: |
| 23:34.30 | amdp | lolll |
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| 23:34.34 | peterS | I mean not that the two have anything to do with each other really, but it seems to be the same type of people |
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| 23:35.02 | pouet78 | Hello I created a schroot with "mk-sbuild --arch armel" it works well by running qemu automatically. Now I have a rootfs already built and would like to work the same way |
| 23:35.08 | pouet78 | how schroot knows it needs to run qemu? |
| 23:35.12 | amdp | eheheh I can't deal with both I guess I only understand /21 because a great debian user taught me to understand bitwise operations |
| 23:35.29 | amdp | I am a very newbie |
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| 23:35.42 | peterS | amdp: well, most people just get totally confused if a netmask is not 24 (: |
| 23:35.57 | amdp | but I am learning quickly and I really wanted debian on my server |
| 23:36.13 | amdp | I guess this is too chatty for the channel |
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| 23:50.30 | t0ke1 | I have an OTFE volume on my computer (that I previously used with Liberte Linux). Is it possible to access it on Debian? |
| 23:50.44 | t0ke1 | I read that nautilus can mount such volumes, but I can't seem to do i |
| 23:50.45 | t0ke1 | it* |
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| 23:53.45 | jhutchins | t0ke1: Depends on the encryption method and what you've installed to handle it. |
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| 23:54.23 | t0ke1 | Liberte Linux used FreeOTFE apprently |
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| 23:54.55 | jhutchins | !freeotfe |
| 23:55.23 | jhutchins | dpkg: freeofte |
| 23:55.23 | dpkg | jhutchins: i don't know |
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| 23:58.17 | abrotman | !hello |
| 23:58.18 | dpkg | Hi, abrotman! |
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| 23:59.00 | ryan42 | heh that was confusing.... rlogin is linked to ssh on my machien in a really roundabout way |
| 23:59.35 | themill | dpkg: tell ryan42 about alternatives |
| 23:59.57 | ryan42 | /usr/bin/rlogin -> /etc/alternatives/rlogin -> /usr/bin/slogin -> ssh |
