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| 00:01.28 | ryan42 | i'm a little familair with alternatives but its somewhat strange to me that rlogin would go to slogin instead of telnet |
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| 00:03.04 | themill | ryan42: I've never heard of telnet clients supporting the rlogin/rsh protocols |
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| 00:05.11 | ryan42 | i suppose going to ssh does something feature-complete to rlogin but it doesn't work if the destination has no sshd :) |
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| 00:06.39 | themill | umm... no, it should work just fine if the remote is running the appropriate rlogind |
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| 00:08.34 | ryan42 | i don't know how to make that work. the machine on the other end has no sshd, no ssl. its running rlogind but with rlogin to ssh... how do you make ssh form an unsecure connection to the other machine under these circumstances? |
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| 00:08.55 | themill | rlogin isn't using ssh |
| 00:09.30 | ryan42 | corrct. however on my debian box rlogin goes to alternatives which tells it to go to slogin which goes to ssh. that can't work |
| 00:09.38 | themill | yes it can |
| 00:09.41 | ryan42 | how? |
| 00:09.53 | peterS | ssh can't emulate rlogin, can it? I didn't think it could |
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| 00:10.06 | ryan42 | i don't think ssh will make a non-secure connection |
| 00:10.12 | ryan42 | i coudl be wrong |
| 00:10.29 | themill | ryan42: you're not asking ssh to do so, you're asking rlogin to do so. It just happens that rlogin is implemented by ssh. |
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| 00:10.52 | themill | There are plenty of programs that behave differently depending on what binary name they are invoked by |
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| 00:11.31 | peterS | ryan42: you may just need to 'apt-get install rsh-client' |
| 00:11.41 | ryan42 | ah. doesn't seem to work for me though unless I need a flag... i issue rlogin remotehost and get ssh: connect to host 10.0.42.12 port 22: connection refused |
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| 00:12.27 | themill | hmm... |
| 00:12.35 | themill | searches for a network that he can test this on |
| 00:12.43 | ryan42 | this is probably an edge-case because nobody uses rlogin unsecured anymore. |
| 00:12.48 | themill | yeah |
| 00:12.57 | peterS | ryan42: and yet we do still ship the rsh-client package, just in case (: |
| 00:13.08 | themill | ,popcon rsh-client |
| 00:13.09 | judd | Popcon data for rsh-client: inst: 1457, vote: 136, old: 1292, recent: 29, nofiles: 0 |
| 00:13.15 | ryan42 | peterS: thanks, it is apt-getting right now :) |
| 00:13.35 | ryan42 | ,popcorn ssh |
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| 00:14.13 | themill | I was using rsh-client (or rsh-client-redone) to talk on a private network to reduce the cpu overhead of encryption last year, but that's the first time I've used it in about 15 years. |
| 00:14.44 | ryan42 | I guess that's not the package name for ssh heh |
| 00:15.00 | ryan42 | but 1457 sounds like a very, very small subset of the install base. |
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| 00:15.45 | themill | ,popcon openssh-client |
| 00:15.46 | judd | Popcon data for openssh-client: inst: 158036, vote: 87046, old: 50493, recent: 20450, nofiles: 47 |
| 00:15.48 | themill | quite |
| 00:16.16 | ryan42 | will that script let you specify architecture? |
| 00:16.37 | themill | ryan42: judd doesn't have the arch-specific data, but popcon.debian.org can give you more |
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| 00:18.02 | ryan42 | hrm, am I doing something wrong? http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=rsh-client |
| 00:18.45 | ryan42 | not that it matters much, but I'm running on powerpc so I was going to see if a zero just changed to a one :-P |
| 00:18.51 | themill | ,source rsh-client |
| 00:18.52 | judd | Package rsh-client in wheezy -- source: netkit-rsh |
| 00:18.58 | themill | ryan42: ^^ you need to use the source package name |
| 00:19.06 | ryan42 | peterS: all happy now that I have that package installed, thanks! |
| 00:19.34 | ryan42 | ahh, ok, thanks. |
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| 00:20.22 | ryan42 | is there a command on debian that you can use on a file/binary/library that will tell you what package that file was installed as a part of? |
| 00:20.48 | peterS | ryan42: dpkg -S |
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| 00:22.11 | themill | ryan42: btw if you see symlinks around, "readlink -f" is handy |
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| 00:23.09 | ryan42 | peterS: thanks! |
| 00:23.16 | peterS | no problem |
| 00:23.24 | ryan42 | themill: ahh, thanks for that one too. I had been stepping thru those with ls -l heh |
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| 00:25.31 | ryan42 | mkswap ? |
| 00:25.39 | amdp | mkswap /dev/hdaX ? |
| 00:25.43 | amdp | ok |
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| 00:26.02 | eth0ghost | amdp: Yes. |
| 00:26.08 | amdp | thanks |
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| 00:26.48 | amdp | hmmmm |
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| 00:28.18 | amdp | dos?? :O |
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| 00:41.41 | oandarilho01 | hi! someone with debian+strongswan knowledge? |
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| 00:44.23 | usrnix | Hi, pinning GNOME to the experimental(or just sid) version, remotely do-able and ok idea? 3.10 would be nice to have |
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| 00:50.23 | petn-randall | usrnix: Unless you're actually running sid, quite a dangerous idea. |
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| 00:51.23 | usrnix | petn-randall: Ok thx |
| 00:51.36 | petn-randall | usrnix: If you want to do it right, you should either use backports, or backport it yourself. |
| 00:52.30 | usrnix | petn-randall: using backports there won't be any strange dep issues with something as big gnome? |
| 00:53.04 | themill | I can't imagine a backport of gnome being easy to do or it really working out well in the end |
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| 00:55.11 | petn-randall | neither do I, but it's "The Right Way" ™ |
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| 00:56.21 | petn-randall | usrnix: If they exist, there won't. But your should consider if the benefits of upgrading gnome really outweigh the risk of hosing your system. |
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| 00:57.37 | usrnix | petn-randall: not a fan of that idea, is unfortunate for big packages like DEs there aren't better, more reliable ways to handle these things; but more devs for debian might mean that in future *fingers crossed* |
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| 01:44.18 | k_sze[work] | I need help figuring this out: how do I daemonize a python script? To be specific, I want scrapyd to be run by `init` when the machine boots into the 2 to 5 runlevels in Debian. |
| 01:44.27 | k_sze[work] | And I want scrapyd to run in a virtualenv. |
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| 02:23.18 | Geo | Hi, I feel rather silly having to ask this, but I'm trying to install gnome from the command line... i did at-get install gnome-session, but I guess I'm still lacking something. What else do I need to run in order to get a gui desktop environment running? |
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| 02:24.55 | nonconvergent | Uhhh...this is weird and disconcerting, but all of a sudden ssh to my home server is no longer prompting me for my key's passphrase. I am running gnome-fallback all of a sudden, so that may have something to do with it. |
| 02:26.59 | dvs | ,v gnome |
| 02:27.02 | judd | Package: gnome on i386 -- squeeze: 1:2.30+7; wheezy: 1:3.4+7+deb7u1; jessie: 1:3.8+4; sid: 1:3.8+4 |
| 02:27.10 | themill | Geo: you probably want gnome-desktop-environment or gnome-core instead. And you probably want xorg too |
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| 02:30.13 | buu | augh |
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| 02:30.22 | buu | LINUX WIRELESS IS MADE ENTIRELY OF SATAN |
| 02:30.35 | Geo | which one is installed by default via the CD? |
| 02:30.39 | Geo | I'd like to match it up to the others |
| 02:30.45 | Geo | for some reason I didn't install it on this one |
| 02:31.19 | dvs | Geo: probably gnome-desktop-environment |
| 02:32.26 | Geo | thanks |
| 02:32.49 | themill | Geo: task-gnome-desktop (and task-desktop), actually |
| 02:33.02 | dvs | flogs himself |
| 02:33.08 | Geo | eh? |
| 02:33.17 | Geo | I just started desktop-environment |
| 02:33.20 | Geo | am i hosed? |
| 02:33.38 | themill | not at all -- task-gnome-desktop just includes more things |
| 02:33.43 | Geo | eh |
| 02:33.53 | Geo | I'm not too concerned w/ bells and whistles |
| 02:34.02 | Geo | thank you though |
| 02:34.08 | Geo | just need to get some vms up |
| 02:34.55 | Geo | although I guess that is what is installed on the cd... i need tasksel installed as well for that? |
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| 02:36.22 | dvs | Geo: No, task-gnome-desktop is what the CD selects |
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| 02:38.36 | Geo | are there issues with installing task-gnome-desktop after desktop-environment? |
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| 02:40.15 | _rs | anyone can share a tip on how to setup antialiasing got gtk apps running in kde? |
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| 02:43.23 | wardhan | hi all. it seems to that you need an invitation for debian-next channel. i am using sid, did dist-upgrade & the package bash-completion is not instaling with error code 1. |
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| 02:44.38 | wardhan | should i wait for a few more hours to get it resolved. the bug #728742 seems to be closed yesterday. |
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| 02:44.56 | jazz | Hey guys, just did my first Debían install. Something didn't work out with grub, can somebody help me out? |
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| 02:45.46 | dvs | !ask |
| 02:45.47 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 02:46.12 | jazz | Basically at the last install step about grub I just left it at default (it said it detected windows Vista (I have windows 7) on another partition and that it should be safe to install grub "to my first hard disk" |
| 02:47.22 | jazz | My box boots to grub rescue with the error boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found |
| 02:47.37 | jazz | Anybody? |
| 02:47.38 | TomFool | where can I find a deb of chromium 29? The upgrade to 30 is broken |
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| 02:50.49 | jazz | Aaaaand I fixed it by reinstalling grub from the livecd |
| 02:50.54 | TomFool | or I could stop being stubborn and let Wayland install, which is probably the problem |
| 02:50.56 | jazz | Thanks anyway |
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| 02:55.11 | jazz | How do I enable non-free drivers? |
| 02:55.25 | jazz | Gnome 3 failed to start, I'm guessing that's why. |
| 02:56.29 | dark_node | Just add non free repos to your sources.list and grab whatever ya need jazz. |
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| 03:06.28 | Geo | meh |
| 03:06.37 | Geo | I'm still getting the "Cannot open display" error |
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| 03:07.28 | dvs | Geo: Look for (EE) in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 03:07.36 | Geo | what command should I be running to start gnome? |
| 03:07.45 | themill | Geo: did you install gdm3? |
| 03:07.55 | Geo | i've only done what i was told here :) |
| 03:07.59 | Geo | so no, I guess? |
| 03:08.19 | themill | well, the packages I said would have installed gdm3... |
| 03:08.34 | Geo | then yes, i guess? :) |
| 03:08.46 | Geo | what shoud i be running to start gnome? |
| 03:08.55 | themill | log in to gdm |
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| 03:09.20 | Geo | Im at the command line... I dont know how to do that |
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| 03:18.55 | qwerty__ | i am attempting to make my own chromeOS like os, dose anyone have recommendations for DM and DE |
| 03:19.29 | Geo | sooo... what am I typing to start gnome properly? |
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| 03:21.09 | dark_node | I always opt for openbox =) |
| 03:21.54 | qwerty__ | i love openbox, but what should i do about the taskbar? |
| 03:21.56 | socomm | I don't even know what Chrome OS looks like. |
| 03:22.13 | qwerty__ | it looks like google chrome |
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| 03:22.22 | dark_node | Neither do I, happy to say. |
| 03:22.34 | b1nd | have Squeeze and Leeny been replaced by Weezy ? |
| 03:23.19 | dark_node | That is the stable version at this time b1nd , yes |
| 03:23.24 | socomm | qwerty__: you can probable re-work GNOME 3 to look like ChromeOS |
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| 03:24.06 | b1nd | okay, so I have Squeez and Lenny on some boxs, what is the best way to upgrade them to wheezy since it is now stable? |
| 03:24.14 | qwerty__ | socomm, the thing is that there really isnt much to look at, but the webbrowser that controls everything |
| 03:24.23 | b1nd | and there is no more support for lenny and squeeze? |
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| 03:25.10 | socomm | qwerty__: http://www.chromium.org/chromium-os |
| 03:25.20 | socomm | Its open source, so ............ |
| 03:25.22 | dark_node | I would just make a usb of the netinstall b1nd. |
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| 03:25.40 | dark_node | Depending on your install mode, you can have a lot of control over it. |
| 03:25.44 | qwerty__ | i did that and it runs like crap |
| 03:26.05 | qwerty__ | its worse than ubuntu |
| 03:26.15 | dark_node | Thats saying something. |
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| 03:27.06 | socomm | qwerty__: you get what you pay for |
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| 03:28.20 | b1nd | dark_node, I have them installed on vps |
| 03:28.39 | b1nd | is there not a way to edit the /etc/apt/source.list ? |
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| 03:28.51 | qwerty__ | must be root |
| 03:29.39 | arthurfiggis | hmm...anyone know of something i can install in wheezy for kde to make gtk apps look...less awful? :) they certainly looked great in gnome 3 but i'm not familiar with it |
| 03:30.36 | socomm | arthurfiggis: hard liquor helps |
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| 03:38.04 | naptastic | Can I copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/archives from one computer to another in order to save time downloading? |
| 03:38.38 | dvs | naptastic: Can't see why not. |
| 03:38.52 | naptastic | dvs, will apt see what I've done? :-) |
| 03:39.13 | dvs | not sure. |
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| 03:41.12 | naptastic | well, in another minute or two, I'm going to try it... |
| 03:41.15 | jazz | hi! how do i enable pretty fonts in debian? |
| 03:41.48 | themill | naptastic: as long as it's the same architecture, yes that works just fine and apt will handle it nicely |
| 03:43.32 | naptastic | themill, thank you :-) This is going to save me TONS of time and bandwidth. |
| 03:43.49 | naptastic | hmm, except the copying between systems is the same speed as my Internet connection :-/ |
| 03:43.50 | naptastic | lol |
| 03:44.05 | themill | You might like to look at the apt-cacher-ng package (or one of the other apt proxies) |
| 03:44.14 | dvs | naptastic: Charge yourself bandwidth! |
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| 03:44.57 | naptastic | dvs, HAHAHAHA!!! Not a bad idea. Maybe I could make some money that way, or at least deduct the cost of the bandwidth from my taxes. Hmm... |
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| 03:54.21 | jazz | I'm getting some pretty nasty screen tearing on wheezy using non-free AMD drivers. |
| 03:54.38 | jazz | I ahve mirroring to my HDTV enabled, maybe that's related. No screen tearing on HDTV.... |
| 03:54.43 | TomFool | I'm still trying to find a copy of chromium 29 I can downgrade to (on jessie) |
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| 04:12.53 | jazz | TomFool Chrome 30 is working fine for me |
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| 04:34.25 | sergiodj | hey there. I'm using wheezy here. anybody using gitolite on their system? I'm having a strange problem and I'd like to confirm it's debian-only |
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| 04:38.27 | fv4dpzc | hi, well.. i have a problem with dhcp... dhcp client renew my ip address after a moment, why? and what is the solution for this?... i changed to static ip, but is not the idea.. |
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| 04:40.56 | dondelelcaro | fv4dpzc: by default ISC's dhcp client will renew the lease when half of the lease has expired |
| 04:41.08 | dondelelcaro | fv4dpzc: if that's too often, you probably need a longer lease |
| 04:41.51 | dondelelcaro | fv4dpzc: or if you're asking why it starts up and asks for a RENEW request first, it will do that if it has a currently valid lease which it hasn't released |
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| 04:44.58 | mamtina | hi all ! |
| 04:45.51 | mamtina | my desktop freezed, I've just installed mpd ncmpcpp |
| 04:46.15 | mamtina | just the cursor can move |
| 04:46.36 | mamtina | someone can help? please |
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| 04:53.21 | zophy | mamtina, wtf is that ? |
| 04:54.51 | TomFool | how will installing wayland screw-up my desktop? |
| 04:55.39 | zophy | i like movies about space time coincidence and their application to emergent qualitative analytics |
| 04:56.28 | mamtina | zophy, my debian crashed and just the cursor can move |
| 04:56.49 | mamtina | my other debian |
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| 05:03.20 | NotJimCarrey | ok, don't laugh (again), but is it possible to do a non-destructive reinstall? |
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| 05:13.57 | tecnico | Is there a way to create preseed file from an install I just finished? sort of like an automated script to replicate what I just did |
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| 05:22.12 | nell | I messed up with some partitions |
| 05:22.23 | nell | would anything bad happened if I delete crypt luks partitions in gparted |
| 05:25.46 | FreezingCold | How much does the debian and ubuntu kernel differ? I'm thinking of using a tool that's only supporting Ubuntu's kernel |
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| 05:28.34 | was_a_win_user | is debian/kFreeBSD out? |
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| 05:32.11 | NotJimCarrey | ok, i'm trying to do a non-destructive reinstall, and i was at least smart enough last time to setup my partitions right (fstab http://pastebin.com/aeuC59mH). can someone help me out please? |
| 05:32.33 | NotJimCarrey | i don't want to mess this up and lose everything |
| 05:33.11 | was_a_win_user | try live |
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| 05:33.41 | NotJimCarrey | using the netinst atm, live can do reinstall? |
| 05:35.42 | ElDiabolo | NotJimCarrey, Why are you trying a reinstall? |
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| 05:38.22 | NotJimCarrey | ElDiabolo: migrated from i386 to amd64. worked well until i tried to reinstall the amd64 versions of the packages, and i just kept getting available version errors |
| 05:39.06 | NotJimCarrey | i've checked, and rechecked, my sources.list, but it can't find almost every package i try to install |
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| 05:39.39 | boudiccas | NotJimCarrey; maybe there arent 64-bit versions of those programmes? |
| 05:39.46 | NotJimCarrey | there are |
| 05:40.11 | NotJimCarrey | and even for the few that don't and 64 versions, it can't find the :i386 either |
| 05:40.19 | ElDiabolo | NotJimCarrey, Uh, ok. |
| 05:40.19 | themill | cross-grading isn't supported |
| 05:40.38 | NotJimCarrey | themill: i know |
| 05:40.45 | NotJimCarrey | most of what i do isn't supported |
| 05:40.47 | NotJimCarrey | lol |
| 05:41.05 | was_a_win_user | Jim you messed up bad |
| 05:41.11 | NotJimCarrey | nah |
| 05:41.24 | NotJimCarrey | i've recovered from worse |
| 05:41.27 | was_a_win_user | Back up your data and reinstall amd64 7.2 |
| 05:41.40 | was_a_win_user | ok |
| 05:42.20 | NotJimCarrey | was_a_win_user: i setup my partition scheme so that it would save me in cases like this, just can't remember how to do the install right |
| 05:42.25 | NotJimCarrey | i'm blaming the meds |
| 05:42.43 | was_a_win_user | ok |
| 05:42.45 | was_a_win_user | Idk |
| 05:42.50 | was_a_win_user | Which Debian are you using? |
| 05:42.56 | NotJimCarrey | sid |
| 05:43.29 | NotJimCarrey | yeah, i know, no cd for sid, but you can install sid from jessie disc if done right |
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| 05:44.43 | was_a_win_user | ua |
| 05:44.46 | was_a_win_user | ya |
| 05:44.49 | was_a_win_user | I know |
| 05:45.34 | boudiccas | is there such a beastie as a 'jessie install disc'? |
| 05:45.58 | NotJimCarrey | boudiccas: yes |
| 05:46.04 | NotJimCarrey | http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/ |
| 05:46.08 | boudiccas | oh right, thanks |
| 05:46.45 | themill | it may even work |
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| 05:47.52 | NotJimCarrey | lol |
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| 05:48.39 | neilthereildeil | hey guys |
| 05:48.47 | neilthereildeil | how can i update all the packages on my system? |
| 05:49.04 | neilthereildeil | the man page says "apt-get update" will just update the index |
| 05:50.04 | LtL | neilthereildeil: apt-get upgrade |
| 05:50.23 | tecnico | Is there a way to create a preseed file from an install I just finished? sort of like an automated script to replicate what I just did |
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| 05:51.06 | neilthereildeil | LtL: that will change the version to the new release of Debian, right? |
| 05:51.15 | neilthereildeil | i just wanna update my packages by stay on 7.2 |
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| 05:52.21 | LtL | neilthereildeil: no it will just upgrade the installed packages if upgrades are available. |
| 05:52.41 | khaotik | is there a certain setting I need for two harddrives in a laptop? I installed msata and dual boot. Everything works fine, boots into both systems. As soon as I install the secondary hdd for storage, grub hangs |
| 05:53.30 | neilthereildeil | ok thx |
| 05:53.31 | khaotik | Ive looked for jumper settings on hdd but cant find find any. Ive tried putting a jumper in all positions but to no avail |
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| 05:53.48 | khaotik | Is there something I am missing |
| 05:55.08 | nonconvergent | khaotik: Probably the ordering of the drives is the opposite of what you expect. See what happens when you switch them around? |
| 05:55.33 | khaotik | I cant. One is msata, and one is sata |
| 05:55.36 | neilthereildeil | why does debian use Samba 3.6 as the latest? |
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| 05:55.44 | neilthereildeil | samba 4 has been out since 2010 |
| 05:55.51 | nonconvergent | khaotik: are they the only drives in the device? |
| 05:55.59 | themill | neilthereildeil: samba4 is a very different beast and doesn't yet fully work. |
| 05:56.18 | was_a_win_user | is the Freebsd version of debian out? |
| 05:56.21 | neilthereildeil | ah ok |
| 05:56.22 | khaotik | yes. I found out I had an empty msata slot and put a 128gb for dual boot os's |
| 05:56.32 | themill | was_a_win_user: have you actually looked at www.debian.org? |
| 05:56.35 | neilthereildeil | well, theres a bug that im facing when writing big files to a network share |
| 05:56.38 | neilthereildeil | its described here |
| 05:56.39 | neilthereildeil | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522867 |
| 05:56.42 | khaotik | I took the regular hdd sata out to use for data |
| 05:56.49 | neilthereildeil | is there a way to fix it in 3.6.6/ |
| 05:56.51 | neilthereildeil | ? |
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| 05:57.02 | khaotik | as long as i leave the hdd out of the laptop works fine |
| 05:57.02 | was_a_win_user | ya i did |
| 05:57.10 | nonconvergent | khaotik: So you have a mbr on the msata then? |
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| 05:57.18 | khaotik | yes, no gpt |
| 05:57.32 | nonconvergent | THat's probably your issue. It may not like that. |
| 05:57.46 | khaotik | i had to use gdisk to fix an inproper gpt partition left from windoze 8 |
| 05:58.11 | nonconvergent | casual googling shows nothing but problems with msata and grub. |
| 05:58.15 | neilthereildeil | and this bug was first reported back in 2009 |
| 05:58.17 | khaotik | parttioned msata mbr and installed windoze 7 then debian 7 |
| 05:58.18 | neilthereildeil | almost 4 years ago |
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| 05:59.10 | tecnico | neilthereildeil: there's samba4 on the wheezy repos. Have you tried it? |
| 05:59.21 | khaotik | boots fast as all hell now with just the boot drive |
| 05:59.25 | neilthereildeil | how do i try it? |
| 05:59.36 | tecnico | apt-get install samba4 ? |
| 05:59.38 | khaotik | goes right into debian and windows no problem |
| 05:59.49 | neilthereildeil | ok |
| 05:59.53 | nonconvergent | khaotik: you might need to have the mbr and /boot/ at least on the sata drive. |
| 05:59.57 | neilthereildeil | so then which command would i use instead of mount? |
| 06:00.26 | tecnico | neilthereildeil: I haven't tried it.. I just mentioned it since you said that 3.6 was the latest on debian but I noticed that samba4 was there too |
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| 06:04.11 | khaotik | ok. I might try that. I was debating wheather or not to do that before I installed both oses |
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| 06:04.58 | nonconvergent | khaotik: do you have any OS on there? |
| 06:05.04 | khaotik | I was trying some different things to get it to work with uefi and windoze 8 but gave that up |
| 06:05.12 | nonconvergent | because that's a very good reason for grub to hang. |
| 06:05.27 | khaotik | no. just raw storage (ntfs) 1 tb |
| 06:05.36 | khaotik | about full tho |
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| 06:06.01 | khaotik | It was the drive I had dual booting on before I found out I had empty msata |
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| 06:06.58 | khaotik | I found my msata port is sataIII so i opted for that instead of ssd replacment |
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| 06:45.23 | FreezingCold | If you *had* to run either a Fedora or Ubuntu kernel on Debian, which would you pick? |
| 06:46.11 | tecnico | just curious, wgat ubuntu only pkg are you trying to run? |
| 06:46.39 | tecnico | did it not work with the stock kernel from debian? |
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| 06:49.14 | neilthereildeil | has anyone else had the problem here ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522867) in debian? |
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| 06:57.25 | FreezingCold | tecnico: ksplice only supports new Fedora and Ubuntu customers |
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| 06:59.33 | jwilliams_ | is gnome-terminal 3.10.1 introduced a new bug? a few mins ago, i do apt-get upgrade. now my gnome-terminal once launched, it shows black screen; no cursor, no ls result can be seen. |
| 06:59.34 | tecnico | debian 7.0 is supported apparently http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/manual-installation# |
| 06:59.39 | tecnico | FreezingCold: |
| 06:59.59 | FreezingCold | tecnico: key word is legacy. They won't add you unless you were already a customer |
| 07:00.05 | tecnico | ohh |
| 07:00.06 | jwilliams_ | but searching with bug gnome-terminal 3.10.1, seemingly no similar report |
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| 07:18.26 | LePetite | hey guys, how do i turn on or off a desktop? |
| 07:18.33 | LePetite | specifically cinnamon |
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| 07:24.42 | mumpitzel | LePetite: how is it "turned on"? |
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| 07:25.43 | LePetite2 | Hi, sorry got disconnected |
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| 07:26.10 | LePetite2 | What i mean by turning on or off is for example, normal boot is quick without GUI |
| 07:26.21 | LePetite2 | but now ive installed GUI |
| 07:26.29 | LePetite2 | i want the option of turning it on or off |
| 07:26.52 | LePetite2 | so meaning the normal boot would land me on the term login screen instead of showing a UI |
| 07:26.59 | mumpitzel | you want to choose between boot to console and boot to GUI? |
| 07:27.07 | mumpitzel | !tell LePetite about ndom |
| 07:27.11 | LePetite2 | is there a way to toggle it on or off at will or am i stuck with it once its installed? |
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| 07:27.27 | LePetite2 | erm the bot seems stuck |
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| 07:27.39 | LePetite2 | or not responding to your syntax |
| 07:28.03 | mumpitzel | !tell LePetite2 about nodm |
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| 07:30.40 | LePetite2 | next question if i may --> "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" |
| 07:31.04 | LePetite2 | since i do not want to uninstall the dm, the obvious choice is the above syntax right? |
| 07:31.26 | LePetite2 | will it work back if i change the "false" to "true"? |
| 07:31.28 | DANtheBEASTman | if I use apt-get source and ./configure manually what's the best way to continue building and making a debian package? |
| 07:32.26 | mumpitzel | DANtheBEASTman: after apt-get source, use dpkg-buildpakcage |
| 07:32.36 | mumpitzel | dpkg-buildpackage |
| 07:32.48 | mumpitzel | LePetite2: yes |
| 07:32.53 | DANtheBEASTman | if I'm not mistaken, dpkg-buildpackage will re ./configure and override my settings |
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| 07:34.47 | themill | dpkg: tell DANtheBEASTman about package recompile |
| 07:35.44 | LePetite2 | mumpitzel: thank you so much |
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| 07:36.00 | LePetite2 | does this channel practice the <user>++ point system? |
| 07:36.16 | mumpitzel | LePetite2: it might work, but not really, no |
| 07:37.45 | LePetite2 | mumpitzel++ |
| 07:37.49 | LePetite2 | thank you |
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| 07:45.52 | DANtheBEASTman | themill: again, if I'm not mistaken dpkg-buildpackage runs ./configure again which would override your settings.. |
| 07:46.25 | themill | DANtheBEASTman: sure. That's why dpkg told you that you should make the change in debian/rules instead ;) |
| 07:46.55 | DANtheBEASTman | oh! i didn't quite catch that |
| 07:47.59 | DANtheBEASTman | thanks |
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| 07:51.24 | DANtheBEASTman | I'm writing a guide on how to backport from source: https://gist.github.com/DanielFGray/7108454 I'd love some criticism |
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| 08:07.26 | bejker | hi |
| 08:07.48 | bejker | some one know somethink about hyper treading? |
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| 08:08.13 | bhuddah | bejker: good morning. can you please try to be a little more specific? |
| 08:08.37 | pfote | http://www.trout.me.uk/caption.jpg :-) |
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| 08:09.57 | bejker | bhuddah: i read on one forum when u have ht turned on then when u type dmidecode > /tmp/dmidecode.txt and there will be Status: Populated, Enabled |
| 08:10.03 | bejker | it's mean is turned on |
| 08:10.06 | bejker | but |
| 08:10.15 | bejker | when i run bash script |
| 08:10.25 | bejker | they give me somethink like that |
| 08:10.40 | bejker | This system has 0 physical CPUs, |
| 08:10.40 | bejker | and one logical CPU. |
| 08:10.40 | bejker | The CPU is a Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz with 1024 KB cache |
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| 08:10.53 | bejker | so i turned on ht or still not |
| 08:10.58 | bhuddah | !enter |
| 08:10.59 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 08:11.51 | bhuddah | there may be pentium 4's that don't have hyperthreading afaik. lemme check. |
| 08:11.59 | bejker | i try to write all in one line but there is what bash give me a answer |
| 08:12.21 | bejker | bhuddah: in /proc/cpuinfo i have flag ht |
| 08:12.44 | bejker | flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc up pebs bts pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr |
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| 08:13.45 | bhuddah | bejker: why are you concerned? |
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| 08:14.16 | bejker | sorry i dont understand that word concerned, what you mean? |
| 08:14.46 | bhuddah | bejker: it's a fairly old machine and i wouldn't run it for cpu power... why are you thinking so hard about the HT? |
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| 08:15.20 | bhuddah | i'm sure it works as designed. but this hardware is over 10 years old.. maybe some support was dropped in the past. i honestly don't know. |
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| 08:16.10 | bejker | becouse i want get some more speed in my pc, and sometimes my cpu when is alot of proces turned on, they slow very much |
| 08:16.13 | bhuddah | pfote: can we have that cat as a factoid? |
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| 08:16.47 | pfote | bhuddah: why not :-) |
| 08:16.48 | bhuddah | bejker: i don't think this is possible. even linux isn't capable of working wonders. |
| 08:16.58 | bhuddah | pfote: for !vague ^^ |
| 08:19.09 | bejker | ok, and one more question, when dmidecode show me somethink like that: http://pastebin.com/u1Dy07ay thats mean i can overclock my cpu to max speed without damage? |
| 08:19.23 | pfote | bejker: hyperthreading doesnt make your machine faster necessarily .. it even can slow down things, it depends what you run on it. threaded server processes might get a little speedup, forking server probably become slower because of the added context switches |
| 08:19.31 | jelly-home | bejker: the "ht" flag is there, but HT was not very useful on that series of CPUs |
| 08:19.57 | bejker | oh ok |
| 08:20.07 | bhuddah | bejker: this is not about overclocking but about the dynamic fequency adjust... |
| 08:20.32 | bhuddah | bejker: google for cpu governor |
| 08:20.59 | pfote | bejker: what do you run on your server that consumes that much CPU? |
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| 08:21.28 | bejker | if i good thinking average speed of cpu is 2800MHz but sometimes with some aplications cpu can get 3400MHz |
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| 08:22.03 | bejker | pfote: apache2, a lot of users is loged in via ssh |
| 08:22.15 | bejker | logged* |
| 08:22.54 | bejker | sometimes when i instal somethink via aptitude i wait realy long for finish |
| 08:23.05 | pfote | bejker: and what/who consumes cpu, your apache? or commands run by your users? |
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| 08:23.52 | bejker | some simple aplications |
| 08:23.56 | bejker | like irssi |
| 08:23.58 | pfote | waiting for aptitude is usually due to I/O .. you should analyze your problems better before thinking about overclocking your server :-) |
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| 08:24.38 | bhuddah | i'd suggest to replace the machine sooner or later. it's bound to fail when it's that old already. |
| 08:24.39 | jelly-home | dpkg does a lot of syncing to ensure integrity |
| 08:24.40 | dpkg | wish i knew, jelly-home |
| 08:24.42 | pfote | irssi? a chat client? you're sure? |
| 08:24.50 | jelly-home | dpkg: hush |
| 08:24.50 | dpkg | it has been said that hush is http://www.apt.needs.to.hush.up.org |
| 08:25.11 | jelly-home | dpkg: be quiet |
| 08:25.11 | dpkg | Ah, shuddup. |
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| 08:26.33 | bejker | pfote: about aptitude, when somethink finish compiled (usualy compile ar realy fast) i wait a long time when bash show me somethink like gnome-icons |
| 08:26.57 | bhuddah | you have a GUI on that server? |
| 08:27.23 | bhuddah | how much ram does it have? |
| 08:27.41 | bejker | yes i have gui |
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| 08:27.56 | bejker | ram is 1gb and swap 6gb |
| 08:27.59 | bhuddah | bejker: are you sure your not wanting too much from that old machine? |
| 08:28.11 | bhuddah | is it swapping a lot? |
| 08:28.24 | bhuddah | have you checked io load with "iostat -mdx"? |
| 08:28.41 | pfote | doubts that |
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| 08:28.59 | bejker | right now is somethink like that |
| 08:29.00 | bejker | KiB Mem: 1033664 total, 928896 used, 104768 free, 28588 buffers |
| 08:29.01 | bejker | KiB Swap: 1044476 total, 348340 used, 696136 free, 286348 cached |
| 08:29.24 | bhuddah | actually not that bad ^^ |
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| 08:30.02 | bejker | yes not bad, but still as u see server use 3.4GB swap ;] |
| 08:30.25 | pfote | its more like 340MB |
| 08:30.47 | pfote | and you dont have 6GB swap, more like 1GB |
| 08:30.52 | bejker | hm... |
| 08:30.57 | bhuddah | swap is same size as ram. as you can see by the numbers. |
| 08:31.18 | bejker | oo i forget connect second drive |
| 08:31.49 | bejker | on second drive i have swap2 with 6gb, |
| 08:32.03 | bhuddah | is imagining a dr. frankenstein like situation atm... |
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| 08:32.37 | bhuddah | but as far as i can see, you probably don't need additional swap atm. |
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| 08:34.27 | bejker | ok thanks for help, I realize my server is crap but still working :) |
| 08:34.49 | bhuddah | as long as it works, it's fine :) bejker |
| 08:34.56 | bejker | so i cant get nothing much powar frome that pc ;] |
| 08:35.04 | bejker | power* |
| 08:35.10 | bhuddah | probably not more then you allready get. |
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| 08:36.31 | pfote | maybe there's some optimization potential in the software you run .. but thats hard to tell without details |
| 08:37.20 | bejker | maby you know why my mem is wrong reading from bios? i have 2x mem with 256MB and one with 1GB, but bios read that 1GB as 512MB |
| 08:37.52 | bejker | i try find somethink in google, but nothing corectly there |
| 08:37.55 | sometux | my server has 4g installed but why dmesg reports only 2.5g/4g available,there is 1.5g missing???? |
| 08:38.16 | bhuddah | sometux: 32bit os? |
| 08:38.33 | bhuddah | bejker: probably the machine is so old it only accepts bars up to 512mb... |
| 08:38.39 | bejker | sometux: 32bit os can read max 3gb if i good remmember |
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| 08:39.28 | bejker | bhuddah: hm... i think maby one year ago bios read corectly that ram |
| 08:39.56 | bhuddah | maybe it is just slowly breaking... |
| 08:40.29 | bejker | ehh.. that i think |
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| 08:41.21 | bejker | anyway really thanks for help guys :) |
| 08:41.24 | sometux | bhuddah, zenwryly : yes 32bit, so what should i do? |
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| 08:41.44 | bhuddah | sometux: reinstall with 64bit would be the best solution. |
| 08:41.47 | bhuddah | bejker: no problem :) |
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| 08:42.11 | bejker | sometux: change os to 64bit if your processor have 64bit architekture |
| 08:42.22 | pfote | bejker: if that server hosts anything important to you i'd start planning for new hardware .. 10 years is something |
| 08:42.36 | sometux | bhuddah: reinstalling is not an option |
| 08:43.05 | bhuddah | sometux: then we are out of luck... sadly.. maybe try a different kernel version with pae if the one used atm does not support it. |
| 08:43.24 | sometux | bhuddah: what about installing kernel with pam option enabled?? |
| 08:43.49 | sometux | *pae |
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| 08:44.15 | sometux | bhuddah: ok thanks |
| 08:44.20 | bhuddah | sometux: i think all recent kernels have pae already built in. if they don't recognize it, we're out of luck. |
| 08:44.34 | bhuddah | sometux: is the machine running an older kernel without pae? |
| 08:44.47 | Arroyo1010 | Hi there. Is there a way to install icedove from experimental on wheezy? |
| 08:44.49 | sometux | bhuddah: I need to check first |
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| 08:47.44 | bejker | Arroyo1010: try instal frome *tar.gz file |
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| 08:48.49 | Arroyo1010 | bejker, what do you mean? |
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| 08:49.39 | bejker | download icedove.tar.gz -> unpack -> compile |
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| 08:50.26 | Arroyo1010 | nice ok. thanks |
| 08:51.05 | bejker | right now i have instaled some soft on my deb 7.2 weeze stable frome ubuntu |
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| 08:51.56 | bejker | theoretically that stuff dont work on stable version, in practic is working realy nice |
| 08:52.31 | ompaul | !frankendebian |
| 08:52.31 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 08:52.39 | sometux | bhuddah: debian lenny (kernel v2.6.26-2-686) I used apt-cache search pae, but with no luck |
| 08:52.44 | ompaul | bejker: some updates will bite hard |
| 08:52.47 | ompaul | !lenny |
| 08:52.47 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
| 08:53.08 | phatypus | "See if you can convince ##linux to help." :) |
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| 08:54.36 | bejker | ompaul: I install jockey on my stable deb, and it's update & upgrade is working nice |
| 08:55.11 | bhuddah | sometux: it's not like a package or something like that. it's a kernel module. and pae is usually in the uname -a if it's in there. |
| 08:55.37 | bejker | ok gtg take care guys |
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| 08:55.40 | bejker | have nice day |
| 08:55.48 | bejker | have a nice day* |
| 08:55.56 | bhuddah | bye bejker |
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| 08:59.02 | sometux | bhuddah: no pae in the kernel name so I guess Im out of luck? some distros have kernel with pae suffix |
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| 08:59.32 | bhuddah | sometux: just upgrade and install a more recent kernel. it may help. |
| 08:59.35 | pa__ | Hi, i cant loh in to SU view command line |
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| 08:59.51 | bhuddah | sometux: or don't upgrade and just install a more recent kernel ^^ |
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| 09:00.27 | pa__ | i cant log in to SU view command line, i need to install chromium now! |
| 09:00.54 | pa__ | becuse icant find flash support in iceweasel |
| 09:01.05 | pa__ | i cant loh in to SU view command line |
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| 09:01.16 | pa__ | i cant loh in to SU view command line |
| 09:01.39 | pa__ | i cant log in to SU view command line |
| 09:01.53 | pa__ | im not super user |
| 09:01.53 | bhuddah | pa__: please stop spamming the channel... |
| 09:02.02 | pa__ | oh ya |
| 09:02.14 | bhuddah | pa__: why can't you log in as root? |
| 09:02.27 | pa__ | dont know |
| 09:02.39 | pa__ | just installed debian xfce |
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| 09:02.45 | hairydwarf | Nov 5 06:25:56 mail postfix/smtp[19261]: 59F79A115C: to=<survey@popcon.debian.o |
| 09:02.45 | hairydwarf | rg>, relay=popov.debian.org[206.12.19.119]:25, delay=24, delays=0.18/0.01/24/0, |
| 09:02.46 | hairydwarf | dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host popov.debian.org[206.12.19.119] refused to talk to me: 421 popov.debian.org: Too much load; please try again later) |
| 09:02.58 | jelly-home | pa__: do you know the password for the root user? |
| 09:03.05 | pa__ | and i want flash which is not supported in iceweasel |
| 09:03.10 | pa__ | yes |
| 09:03.11 | hairydwarf | any popov.debian.org admin around? |
| 09:03.43 | pa__ | i know user name password, everything |
| 09:03.49 | jelly-home | pa__: exactly what happens after you type in "su -" in a terminal and provide root password? |
| 09:04.04 | jelly-home | pa__: root password is a different thing from user's password. |
| 09:04.09 | pa__ | su: Authentication failure |
| 09:04.35 | jelly-home | pa__: you may have forgotten the root password, I guess |
| 09:04.47 | jelly-home | pa__: can you log in as root from the console? |
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| 09:04.59 | pa__ | not in this case |
| 09:05.06 | pa__ | well where is console |
| 09:05.15 | pa__ | ? |
| 09:05.37 | jelly-home | pa__: control-alt-F1 to get to the text console. Control-Alt-F7 to get back to the graphical interface. |
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| 09:10.04 | sometux | bhuddah: I found a kernel with bigmem suffix, do you think that could use all 4g ram? |
| 09:10.21 | pa__ | jelly-home , is there a way in which i can change root password |
| 09:10.22 | pa__ | ? |
| 09:10.23 | omarek | Hi, package 'Python2.7' in wheezy contains Python2.7.*3*. I want to install Python2.7.5 . Is there a straightforward way to do it ? |
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| 09:10.40 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell pa__ about forgot root password |
| 09:11.01 | pa__ | ya dpkg |
| 09:11.19 | bhuddah | sometux: i can't really remember. but it sounds like it is worth a try. or maybe google it ^^ |
| 09:11.45 | jelly-home | sometux: which debian release are you using?> |
| 09:11.58 | sometux | jelly-home: lenny |
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| 09:12.35 | Leoneof | hi, is there any changelogs for debian weekly build? |
| 09:12.55 | jelly-home | sometux: wow. Yeah, the PAE enabled kernel used to be called -686-bigmem then |
| 09:13.06 | pa__ | dpkg is not responding jelly-home |
| 09:13.07 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, pa__ |
| 09:13.18 | pa__ | oh |
| 09:13.33 | jelly-home | pa__: did you get a private message from the bot? Different irc window/tab |
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| 09:13.38 | sometux | bhuddah, jelly-home: thanx |
| 09:13.57 | bhuddah | no prob |
| 09:14.06 | pa__ | yes |
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| 09:35.17 | pa__ | jelly ,got it |
| 09:35.29 | pa__ | dpkg got it |
| 09:35.29 | dpkg | pa__: I give up, what is it? |
| 09:35.37 | pa__ | got |
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| 09:36.09 | pa__ | dpkg : http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Debian_reset_root_password |
| 09:36.10 | dpkg | pa__: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 09:36.22 | pa__ | nope |
| 09:36.32 | pa__ | but it worked with grub http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Debian_reset_root_password |
| 09:37.04 | pa__ | now i want to install chromium, but one more error |
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| 09:38.04 | pa__ | cant do apt-get update |
| 09:39.07 | mumpitze1 | !tell pa__ about details |
| 09:39.18 | pa__ | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
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| 09:39.31 | pa__ | error: |
| 09:39.42 | pa__ | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
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| 09:40.59 | bhuddah | pa__: please start thinking and reading yourself. we are really trying to help you. |
| 09:41.22 | pa__ | ya |
| 09:41.24 | bhuddah | pa__: have you tried turning it off and on again? :) |
| 09:41.48 | bhuddah | maybe a crashed instance of apt is blocking the lock file. |
| 09:41.54 | pa__ | yes |
| 09:42.03 | themill | no, but a running instance could be |
| 09:42.04 | bhuddah | are you logged in as root? |
| 09:42.19 | pa__ | yes as root |
| 09:42.34 | bhuddah | you could "killall apt-get" |
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| 09:43.55 | pa__ | ok then, how can i get flash for my iceweasel, youtube's not working |
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| 09:44.29 | themill | how about we fix one problem at a time |
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| 09:44.33 | pa__ | , how can i get flash for my iceweasel, youtube's not working |
| 09:44.57 | pa__ | bhuddah thank u its done |
| 09:45.15 | pa__ | buddah ok then, how can i get flash for my iceweasel, youtube's not working |
| 09:45.30 | themill | dpkg: tell pa__ about adobe flash |
| 09:45.32 | bhuddah | pa__: i have no idea and i couldn't care less. i'm sorry. :) |
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| 09:48.40 | pa__ | what is command to install chromium? |
| 09:49.17 | pa__ | what is command to install chromium? |
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| 09:49.37 | mumpitze1 | pa__: same command to install any other package |
| 09:49.47 | mumpitze1 | !tell pa__ about grounding |
| 09:50.10 | doebi | my partitions: how can a increase the size of sda3 (debian)? http://i.imgur.com/BtX5yDo.png |
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| 09:50.56 | mumpitze1 | doebi: are you booting from a livecd? |
| 09:51.11 | doebi | nah i am booted in sda3 |
| 09:51.17 | mumpitze1 | then you can't |
| 09:51.24 | doebi | on sda2 i have win8 |
| 09:51.32 | doebi | when booted there i cant increase either |
| 09:51.37 | mumpitze1 | that's nice what how is that relevant? |
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| 09:51.54 | mumpitze1 | yes, windows can't increase debian partitions cause windows doesn't know about any OSes |
| 09:52.31 | mumpitze1 | either boot from a livecd and use gparted there or find a windows program which can increase ext3/4/etc partitions/filesystems |
| 09:52.45 | doebi | waah stupid dualboot, today i booted in win again since 2 months and i was like:WTF? |
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| 09:52.55 | mumpitze1 | doebi: do you have any usb stick handy? |
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| 09:53.13 | doebi | mumpitze1: ya, i think i have a debian netinst somewhere around |
| 09:53.47 | mumpitze1 | not sure if netinst would do. you can use a usb stick and put a live CD on it with YUMI (windows program). the other data on the stay is preserved |
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| 10:00.12 | was_a_win_user | Does Debian 7.2 support Amd C-60 APU with graphics out of the box? |
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| 10:00.46 | mumpitze1 | yes. but you will need non-free firmware for it |
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| 10:10.15 | was_a_win_user | ok |
| 10:10.31 | was_a_win_user | XFCE vs Gnome |
| 10:10.41 | was_a_win_user | which one should I use for this weak processor? |
| 10:10.52 | was_a_win_user | I have 6 gigs of DDR3 ram though |
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| 10:12.18 | debnoob | How can I mount internal ext4 partition using udisk with read write permission for everyone. Thunar and udisk mount the partition but only root can write. |
| 10:13.05 | nkuttler | debnoob: um, mount point permissions? |
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| 10:13.27 | nkuttler | not to mention the filesystem itself, but that should be evident |
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| 10:22.27 | jaami | it is my second day on setting path but still no success. somebody plz help |
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| 10:22.55 | mumpitze1 | jaami: path for who? your user only? |
| 10:23.46 | jaami | yes, i have only one user and nobody else use my laptop. it does not matter if i change path globally |
| 10:24.22 | jaami | i want to change path for all users |
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| 10:24.39 | mumpitze1 | jaami: that is not what I asked |
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| 10:25.52 | mumpitze1 | jaami: pastebin the result of grep PATH ~/.* |
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| 10:26.19 | mumpitze1 | and the content of /etc/profile |
| 10:26.24 | jaami | my english is not real good. okay i paste |
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| 10:29.58 | well_laid_lawn | I add to the users PATH in ~/.bash_profile |
| 10:30.12 | well_laid_lawn | [[ -d ~/.bin ]] && PATH=~/.bin:"${PATH}" |
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| 10:35.58 | jaami | mumpitze1, debian.paste was giving error because of some special character was not supported. pasted here http://pastebin.com/QpLcVFpF |
| 10:37.07 | mumpitze1 | jaami: the $ is most probably wrong at the end of line 3 and 5 |
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| 10:37.22 | mumpitze1 | jaami: is this for node.js or for your user? |
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| 10:37.53 | mumpitze1 | also you set path in the first few lines and then overwrite it again from line 10 to 15 |
| 10:37.59 | mumpitze1 | you are doing it all very very wrong |
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| 10:38.47 | jaami | mumixam, ok, but that was because of nano added $ when line was exceding screen width |
| 10:39.14 | mumpitze1 | no nano doesn't spurious $ |
| 10:39.23 | mumpitze1 | and answer all my questions please |
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| 10:40.05 | jaami | mumpitze1, OK, the path change is just for node.js |
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| 10:42.04 | mumpitze1 | jaami: what does node.js need to call in /usr/local/bin/node64? |
| 10:42.06 | jaami | mumpitze1, sorry got an important phone call. |
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| 10:42.25 | jaami | yes, i created that folder |
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| 10:43.39 | mumpitze1 | that's not what I asked. what does it need to call there and when? why does it need to be in path? |
| 10:43.44 | jaami | yes that copy paste was wrong in my code |
| 10:45.15 | jaami | the /usr/local/node64 will contain node.js that i extracted in download folder |
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| 10:46.07 | mumpitze1 | jaami: that's not what I asked |
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| 10:46.18 | jaami | i mean i extracted node.js into the download folder but i have not copy pasted the same contents in the folder i created /usr/local/bin/node64 |
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| 10:47.01 | jaami | oh wait plz , let me read again |
| 10:49.02 | jaami | im sorry i still cant understand what you want to know exactly, is this you asked right ? path for who? your user only? |
| 10:49.43 | jaami | " path for who? your user only?" |
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| 10:50.40 | jaami | oh, i think you are asking me why i selected the path /usr/local ???? right . |
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| 10:51.23 | jaami | i have no specific reason for this i thought all user related settings should be in /usr/local |
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| 10:54.01 | jaami | in fact when i found just 2 lines related to $PATH change in /etc/profile i just created that folder to set path to for node.js |
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| 10:55.35 | jaami | mumpitze1, plz fix it the way it should be working fine. i just need to add the node.js folder name in the PATH variable |
| 10:56.00 | jaami | that will be a great favor from you |
| 10:56.24 | mumpitze1 | unless you can answer my questions I can't help you. profile is only executed when you have a shell. if you start a daemon like apache there is no shell. |
| 10:56.33 | mumpitze1 | so what commands do you need in path when |
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| 10:58.14 | jaami | oh, that is the thing i was not getting. ok let me explain what i am trying to do. |
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| 11:01.04 | jaami | the node.js has one node executeable file that i can paste in any folder i want but i want to execute command from any folder without giving complete path to that node executeable file. that is the reason i thought if the node executeable is somehow added i path then i dont need to type whole path of the node executeable. i will just type node and command will run |
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| 11:01.38 | mumpitze1 | so you want to run node,js when you are logged in? |
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| 11:02.24 | jaami | yes, i need to run node from terminal when i am loged in |
| 11:02.44 | mumpitze1 | edit your /etc/profible properly. delete the first 6 lines you pasted there yourself. edit current line 11 and 13 instead |
| 11:02.47 | mumpitze1 | add the path there |
| 11:02.48 | jaami | hmm, does it mean the command will run as startup app? |
| 11:02.53 | mumpitze1 | no it doesn't |
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| 11:03.09 | mumpitze1 | the way you add the lines in /etc/profile was very wrong |
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| 11:04.21 | jaami | yes, i added line in nano. i need to learn use of nano |
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| 11:05.27 | mumpitze1 | jaami: this is how the exact /etc/profile must look like: http://paste.debian.net/64076/ I only added something in line 5 and 7 |
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| 11:06.57 | jaami | ok great, let me check |
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| 11:16.56 | tgs3 | why povray was removed from wheezy? |
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| 11:18.07 | mumpitze1 | tgs3: http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/povray.html |
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| 11:19.26 | ionte | hi. i use a debian as a gateway, but i can't get a quite simple routing working: |
| 11:20.02 | ionte | the server has two ethernet connections: eth0 -> wlan, eth1 -> 10.11.100.x and an alias: eth1:1 -> 10.4.1.x |
| 11:20.19 | ionte | the server can ping hosts on both wlan, 10.11.100.x and 10.4.1.x |
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| 11:20.41 | ionte | but a host on 10.11.100.x can't ping a host on 10.4.1.x. |
| 11:20.44 | ionte | any idea?! |
| 11:21.00 | cwillu_at_work | tgs3, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=563344 seems to be the relevant thing |
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| 11:22.47 | cwillu_at_work | ionte, does 10.11.100.x have a route telling it to contact the server to reach hosts on 10.4.1.0/24? |
| 11:23.02 | pirret | you are missing a route that routes packets from 10.4.1.* to 10.11.100.* via 10.11.100.1 or whatever the gw is |
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| 11:23.22 | pirret | if i understood correctly your problem |
| 11:23.27 | pirret | and setup |
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| 11:24.37 | bezaban | assuming the 10.11.100* subnet has the correct netmask and has the gateway as the router box the default route there should be no need to explicitly define it |
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| 11:24.58 | bezaban | bad sentence :P |
| 11:25.07 | bezaban | assuming the 10.11.100* subnet has the correct netmask and has the gateway as the router box the default route there should be no need to explicitly define it |
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| 11:25.10 | bezaban | argh |
| 11:25.13 | bezaban | sloppyfingers. |
| 11:25.15 | pirret | lol |
| 11:25.54 | bezaban | ip forwarding needs to be enabled of course |
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| 11:27.15 | gbit | How can I start remmina in full screen mode? I want to use a .remmina file |
| 11:27.41 | debnoob | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:32.09 | mumpitze1 | debnoob: what are udisks? |
| 11:32.20 | mumpitze1 | debnoob: and what are the permissions of the mountpoint? |
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| 11:35.47 | jaami | mumpitze1, the echo path does not show the change we made in /etc/profile http://paste.debian.net/64083/ |
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| 11:37.04 | ionte | all hosts on 10.11.100.x has 10.11.100.202 (the gateway) as default gateway. it works for wan, but not for the second lan. |
| 11:37.15 | jaami | mumixam, root@abator:/etc# echo $PATH |
| 11:37.15 | jaami | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
| 11:37.35 | mumpitze1 | jaami: then you set the path wrong again sometime later |
| 11:37.51 | ionte | however, the hosts on 10.4.1.137 does *not* have any default gateway (they can't have any...). i guess that is the problem. |
| 11:38.01 | mumpitze1 | you edited your dotfiles a lot and put lots of crap in there as shown in your earlier pastebin |
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| 11:38.12 | jaami | mumpitze1, ok, i check again. |
| 11:38.21 | mumpitze1 | jaami: create a new user to test |
| 11:38.25 | ionte | but it has worked before, i can't remember how though ... |
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| 11:39.02 | jaami | mumixam, ok, i try with new user |
| 11:39.04 | debnoob | mumpitzel: I tried the command http://crunchbanglinux.org/pastebin/2263 but it fails. I can write to folder inside the partition with user set as owner though but not to partition root. |
| 11:39.35 | ionte | if a computer on 10.11.100.x establish a tcp/ip connection to aa computer on 10.4.1.x, do the second computer need a gateway as well or can it talk back over the same socket? |
| 11:40.12 | mumpitze1 | you need a route, not a gateway |
| 11:40.14 | bhuddah | ionte: need more information. |
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| 11:40.25 | ksk | ionte: not a debian question. if your "partner" is in another layer3 (like in another ip subnet) you need a route to get there (maybe via a gateway) |
| 11:40.26 | mumpitze1 | ionte: show us the route print output |
| 11:40.30 | bhuddah | ionte: what is the subnet? |
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| 11:44.27 | ionte | ok, here are the routing tables: http://pastebin.com/pFeSeTbH |
| 11:45.11 | ionte | the gateway is at 10.11.100.202. the gateway can ping both host A and host B. host A cannot ping host B, and it cannot establish a VNC connection either. |
| 11:45.24 | ionte | i'm not sure if ping worked before, but VNC did. |
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| 11:47.19 | babilen | nooooo! |
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| 11:49.18 | mumpitze1 | !pet babilen |
| 11:49.22 | mumpitze1 | !hug babilen |
| 11:49.23 | dpkg | wraps his shiny metal lovin' arms around babilen |
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| 11:55.36 | bmomjian | I am getting an error from iceweasel backports on Squeeze 6.0.8. Any idea why? Error is: W: Failed to fetch http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/squeeze-backports/Release Unable to find expected entry iceweasel-release/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) |
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| 11:59.01 | babilen | bmomjian: Squeeze is, IIRC, no longer supported from the Mozilla maintainers. Please consider upgrading to the current stable release <wheezy> by following the instructions in the <release notes>. (/msg dpkg release notes) |
| 11:59.20 | babilen | *by even :-/ |
| 11:59.55 | bmomjian | oh, OK, that makes sense then. I know I can do an in-place upgrade but have avoided it because I have never done this before. |
| 12:00.04 | themill | "iceweasel-esr" appears to be still there "iceweasel-release" is not |
| 12:00.39 | themill | but yeah, if you want a new shiny browser, upgrade to wheezy ;) |
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| 12:02.01 | bmomjian | ESR is just a different backports maintainer? |
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| 12:02.25 | themill | !iceweasel esr |
| 12:02.25 | dpkg | Iceweasel Extended Support Release, see http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ . Since Debian needs to support packages for years (not weeks!) only the ESR versions are uploaded to unstable as developers only upload packages that are suitable for being included in a release. Other versions are at <mozilla.debian.net> and in <experimental>. |
| 12:02.52 | bmomjian | ok, thanks. How long will 6.0 be supported? |
| 12:02.55 | zlo | is there a DVD for Debian testing? can i use it for live as well? |
| 12:03.10 | themill | bmomjian: until next May |
| 12:04.03 | bmomjian | ok, good to know; I have to do it in the next few months then. |
| 12:04.23 | themill | yeah. |
| 12:04.25 | babilen | bmomjian: The upgrade should be relatively straightforward though and is discussed in detail in the wheezy release notes. |
| 12:04.36 | bmomjian | FYI, ESR did work for me, so I am good for a few months. |
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| 12:04.59 | bmomjian | yeah, I travel a lot so I was concerned that things might break so I would like to be home for a while before doing it. |
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| 12:05.51 | bmomjian | also I want to switch to ext4. I assume that is going to requiring booting from a CD and newfs-ing the root partition and copying/moving the data back there. |
| 12:06.02 | zlo | or maybe for a stable release? is there a DVD that i can use for both live boot and install? thank you |
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| 12:07.11 | themill | dpkg: tell zlo about live |
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| 12:07.40 | babilen | bmomjian: You can switch from ext3 to ext4 in-place, but that doesn't allow you to take advantage of all ext4 features. I would probably recommend to check again that your backups are up-to-date and then to re-create the filesystem. |
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| 12:08.22 | babilen | bmomjian: https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4 has more details :) |
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| 12:08.39 | zlo | themill: thanks; is there live for testing? |
| 12:08.52 | bmomjian | yeah, I have several drives that can contain the entire root partition and I have nightly backups |
| 12:09.09 | petn-randall | babilen: AFAIK you can get all features except for using extents on existing files in place. |
| 12:09.42 | bmomjian | yeah, I think it just needs a newfs to do it right. Shouldn't be that hard. The only odd part is that when I copy the data back, it might contain ext3 mentions. Not sure what is going to happen there. |
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| 12:10.04 | babilen | petn-randall: exactly and the wiki mentions flex_bg and > 16TiB (not sure what the former is) |
| 12:10.20 | bmomjian | certainly fstab will |
| 12:10.37 | babilen | bmomjian: You, naturally, have to adapt your /etc/fstab to the change |
| 12:10.58 | bmomjian | but is that the only place? That's where I am lost. |
| 12:12.04 | petn-randall | bmomjian: /etc/fstab is the only place, yes. Though there might be places where the blkid is mentioned, you'd have to update that, too. |
| 12:12.11 | babilen | bmomjian: should be |
| 12:12.33 | bmomjian | ok, that was a piece of information I had not found, that fstab is the only place |
| 12:12.39 | petn-randall | bmomjian: The blkid would of course change when you make a new FS. Do you use hibernate,mdadm or lvm? |
| 12:12.42 | babilen | bmomjian: If in doubt grep for ext4 and the UUIDs in /etc |
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| 12:13.29 | bmomjian | should I upgrade to 7, then move to ext4? Probably. |
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| 12:14.37 | petn-randall | babilen: Ah, good catch. Though those are features that aren't that improtant IMHO. 'unit_bg' is the most important IMO since it greatly reduces fsck time. |
| 12:14.48 | petn-randall | s/improtant/important/ |
| 12:14.51 | SixtyFold | anyone know if you are able to send files over ssh? |
| 12:15.20 | daemonkeeper | man scp, man sftp |
| 12:15.42 | jelly | SixtyFold: yes. |
| 12:15.58 | SixtyFold | jelly: thanks |
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| 12:17.33 | malik_ | suppose i have an official debian package (not virtual) and i want to replace it with a custom package, while still satisfying the dependencies. what is the usual approach? |
| 12:18.17 | daemonkeeper | http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-virtual |
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| 12:19.18 | ExeciN | malik_: I guess your package should replace itself when it comes to the dependencies |
| 12:19.39 | daemonkeeper | That's not the question. |
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| 12:20.32 | malik_ | daemonkeeper: are you saying i need to make the package i want to replace virtual? |
| 12:20.42 | malik_ | sorry, i think i am confused |
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| 12:20.52 | Kuroshita | hey everyone, I'm getting the following error and google isn't helping, wondering if anyone here can help: W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.au.debian.org_debian_dists_testing_main_i18n_Translation-en: Hash Sum mismatch |
| 12:21.10 | daemonkeeper | malik_: No, that you can use Provides: to name the name of the package you replace. |
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| 12:23.01 | daemonkeeper | But note, that this may not have all effects you expect, in particular provides does not know about versions. |
| 12:23.22 | malik_ | daemonkeeper: exactly that is the source of my problem |
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| 12:23.47 | malik_ | so packages in the system depend on package foo version 1.2 |
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| 12:24.03 | malik_ | and i cannot provide a version and so this is ignored |
| 12:24.23 | daemonkeeper | You could make your foo being larger than version 1.2 |
| 12:24.49 | malik_ | well... that is hacky |
| 12:25.08 | daemonkeeper | So is what you do :> |
| 12:25.11 | mumpitze1 | malik_: what is your actual problem? |
| 12:25.25 | malik_ | daemonkeeper: it is? i was not aware of that :) |
| 12:25.25 | mumpitze1 | daemonkeeper: not if it depends on =1.2 |
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| 12:26.02 | daemonkeeper | malik_: You replace packages on your system by another one? Yes, it is. You could just use the same package with proper versioning :) |
| 12:26.03 | malik_ | mumpitze1: i have an embedded system and i need to recompile a fundamentel part of qt so it can use the hardware acceleration |
| 12:26.19 | mumpitze1 | malik_: actual problem. you still write bad generalities |
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| 12:28.17 | malik_ | mumpitze1: i am not sure how to improve on my description, can you elaborate? |
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| 12:29.08 | malik_ | daemonkeeper: the same package? how can i use the same package? i want to do a modification |
| 12:29.10 | mumpitze1 | state the actual packages that give you problems and why |
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| 12:30.17 | daemonkeeper | malik_: You use the source package of Qt, or whatever, apply your modifications, push the version e.g. by adding +local1, and rebuild. |
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| 12:31.45 | malik_ | daemonkeeper: yeah, i think that is the approach i saw with ubuntu ppas |
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| 12:32.33 | daemonkeeper | malik_: It's also used for backports. |
| 12:32.33 | malik_ | mumpitze1: libqt5gui5 is the package i have to recompile to make it work with these "great" gpu libraries i have |
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| 12:34.17 | mumpitze1 | malik_: and what versioning? |
| 12:34.22 | mumpitze1 | ,l libqt5gui5 |
| 12:34.25 | mumpitze1 | ,v libqt5gui5 |
| 12:34.25 | Kruppt | Kuroshita: wait a while......a repository is being upgraded |
| 12:34.26 | judd | Package: libqt5gui5 on i386 -- jessie: 5.1.1+dfsg-4; sid: 5.1.1+dfsg-5; experimental: 5.2.0~beta1+dfsg-1 |
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| 12:35.05 | mumpitze1 | Kruppt: are you a bot? |
| 12:35.11 | malik_ | mumpitze1: arm jessie 5.1.1+dfsg |
| 12:35.24 | Kruppt | NO |
| 12:35.36 | upp | hello, i want to install a package, and i get the error that ramdisk.img no space left on the device. how can i solve this? |
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| 12:35.53 | mumpitze1 | Kruppt: then don't type such nonsense as above |
| 12:35.57 | SirLagz | upp: are you installing packages into an image file ? |
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| 12:36.10 | Kruppt | What do you mean |
| 12:36.18 | mumpitze1 | upp: are you running from a live cd? |
| 12:36.21 | mumpitze1 | 13:34 < Kruppt> Kuroshita: wait a while......a repository is being upgraded |
| 12:36.46 | upp | no i'm trying to update a .deb package |
| 12:37.05 | mumpitze1 | upp: what is the output of "mount"? |
| 12:37.53 | malik_ | daemonkeeper: thanks for your help |
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| 12:38.30 | upp | mumpitze1:http://pastebin.com/7ZDDaP0E |
| 12:39.31 | mumpitze1 | upp: and what are you trying to install and what is the full output of your apt-get run? |
| 12:40.02 | mumpitze1 | upp: I don't see any ramdisk.img or such mounted which can run out of space |
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| 12:45.55 | maasha | Hello, I am trying to create a debian live usb stick on my mac. sudo dd if=debian-live-7.2-i386-gnome-desktop.iso of=/dev/disk1s1 -> dd: /dev/disk1s1: Operation not supported ? |
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| 12:47.33 | babilen | maasha: Is /dev/disk1s1 the drive or a partition? |
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| 12:48.19 | maasha | babilen: I plugged in a freshly opened kingston usb stick. Writing mount says: /dev/disk1s1 on /Volumes/KINGSTON (msdos, local, nodev, nosuid, noowners) |
| 12:48.36 | mumpitze1 | malik_: then it's a partition |
| 12:48.41 | mumpitze1 | you must dd it onto the drive |
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| 12:49.01 | mumpitze1 | maasha: probably /dev/disk1 |
| 12:49.02 | babilen | maasha: Ah, yeah. You don't want the drive to be mounted and you also don't want to write to a partition but to the disk itself. I guess that would be /dev/disk1 (but please double-check that) |
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| 12:49.35 | mumpitze1 | maasha: all data on the usb stick will be gone after the dd btw |
| 12:49.54 | maasha | babilen: how can I double check the device name? (and never mind about the usb stick - its brand new and presumely blank) |
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| 12:50.34 | babilen | maasha: That being said: Using dd in that way is also horrible inefficient and copying will take much longer than needed. You can either simply use cp (i.e. "cp debian-live-7.2-i386-gnome-desktop.iso /dev/disk1" or specify a larger blocksize for dd (e.g. "bs=4M") |
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| 12:51.25 | jelly | babilen: do you know OSX dd is equally inefficient as the coreutils one? |
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| 12:51.32 | maasha | babilen: Its just a debian live image - its 1Gb so it cant take that long. My concern is that it should be bootable. |
| 12:52.06 | jelly | maasha: the image is supposed to be dumped onto the whole device, not the first slice/partition |
| 12:52.09 | babilen | jelly: In fact I don't, do you think it is more efficient? |
| 12:52.26 | jelly | babilen: I have no idea. |
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| 12:53.10 | babilen | maasha: I take it that "dmesg|tail -n23" doesn't contain that information? What about https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man8/diskutil.8.html ? |
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| 12:54.38 | troulouliou_dev | hi when i have a package in multiple repos , hiw can i pin to a particular repo and also how can i get all the parameter of a repo to put in the pinning filters ? |
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| 12:55.18 | Dirkos | Does anyone knows a good repo for nodejs so that i can install it via aptitude? |
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| 12:55.37 | maasha | babilen: mac osx dmesg output is confusing: https://gist.github.com/maasha/b6a4b579e61b2484871f |
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| 12:57.17 | maasha | babilen: and I still get dd: /dev/disk1: Operation not supported |
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| 12:58.20 | babilen | maasha: Is it still mounted? If not then please take it to #osx as this isn't really a Debian issue. Please also check the device node with diskutil (as I believe that is the right tool for this, but ask in #osx about that too) |
| 12:58.38 | maasha | babilen: I unmounted it else it says busy |
| 12:58.45 | babilen | ack |
| 12:59.09 | maasha | babilen: right thanks. I mistook this for a common *nix issue :o( |
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| 13:00.32 | babilen | maasha: There might be some osx specific "disk utility" that allows you to write images. But lets continue this in the apple channel. :) |
| 13:01.06 | babilen | maasha: Oh, it seems as if #apple is the channel for OSX support and not #osx |
| 13:01.59 | maasha | babilen: right. It would have been nice with build guides on the debian live website, but ... |
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| 13:02.29 | reavengrey | For issues related to max and OSX |
| 13:02.33 | babilen | maasha: But if you were so kind to finally show me the output of "diskutil list" we would know if /dev/disk1 is, at least, correct. |
| 13:02.38 | reavengrey | /join #iFag |
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| 13:03.23 | babilen | reavengrey: Really, neither funny nor appropriate. |
| 13:04.02 | abrotman | there is a #macosx also |
| 13:04.07 | abrotman | (or used to be) |
| 13:04.07 | babilen | \o/ |
| 13:04.24 | babilen | (very small) |
| 13:04.45 | babilen | I think ##apple is as good as it gets (at least on Freenode) |
| 13:05.00 | tgs3 | why was reavengrey banned |
| 13:05.21 | Cyis | tgs3: general asshatery I presume |
| 13:05.23 | tgs3 | is it not allowed to express that given product sucks in a joking manner |
| 13:05.24 | abrotman | tgs3: it seems pretty obvious, try reading |
| 13:05.31 | abrotman | tgs3: are you dense? |
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| 13:05.41 | maasha | babilen: sorry, I didn't catch that: https://gist.github.com/maasha/2e91c0d8a1fb2eb19437 |
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| 13:05.46 | tgs3 | abrotman: I don't take offence easily |
| 13:05.56 | abrotman | tgs3: it's only about you .. |
| 13:06.05 | abrotman | erm .. not only about |
| 13:06.17 | tgs3 | you think we have many macintosh users here on debian? |
| 13:06.31 | babilen | tgs3: Read the backlog and reavengrey wasn't banned, just silenced. And making homophobic remarks are neither helpful nor funny. |
| 13:06.38 | user_mati_irc | Hello Team, do you know a web / were you can check the daily / weekly updates on wheezy release, Packages Component main . thanks. |
| 13:06.44 | babilen | tgs3: It is not, at all, about apple users. |
| 13:06.46 | abrotman | tgs3: it doesn't matter, it's not welcome here. |
| 13:06.49 | maasha | babilen: and with the kingston mounted: https://gist.github.com/maasha/2e91c0d8a1fb2eb19437 |
| 13:06.59 | maasha | babilen: so it looks like disk1 was correct |
| 13:07.03 | abrotman | user_mati_irc: Wheezy was already released? |
| 13:07.04 | tgs3 | babilen: nor is other offtopic, can we be less politicall correct and try to just censore people that are producing noticible levels of offtopic? |
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| 13:07.21 | babilen | m( |
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| 13:07.35 | abrotman | tgs3: comments like reavengrey's are not welcome here, this is not up for debate. If you don't like it, don't use this channel. |
| 13:07.51 | Cyis | and the masses rejoiced |
| 13:08.48 | babilen | maasha: Thank you, looks as if /dev/disk1 is correct - no idea why you writing to it is not supported. Please, come and join ##apple and ask about it there or search for a GUI "disk utility" or something along those lines. |
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| 13:09.27 | user_mati_irc | <abrotman> yes wheezy is released. But I will like to get updates notifications on packages updates. |
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| 13:10.02 | maasha | babilen: ok, thanks a lot. |
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| 13:14.42 | themill | user_mati_irc: installing cron-apt on your machine is the easiest way -- you'll get an email when there's something to update. Alternatively, you can subscribe to the dsa mailing list |
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| 13:16.32 | user_mati_irc | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:17.06 | e-anima | hi. somehow some idiots got into my system somehow. any tips on how to check if they placed soem kind of trojan? |
| 13:17.34 | e-anima | i got stuff like: 30.528.000 packets/300s (101.760 packets/s), 9 flows/300s (0 flows/s), 16,278 GByte/300s (444 MBit/s) |
| 13:20.39 | petemc | e-anima: are you sure you didnt install anything that would create those log entries? |
| 13:20.59 | e-anima | hetzner (provider for my root server) wrote me that |
| 13:21.09 | petemc | oh |
| 13:21.33 | e-anima | telling me that there may be signs of an attack, better said my server was used to attack |
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| 13:22.14 | e-anima | but that stuff only happend for a day or 2 |
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| 13:22.33 | e-anima | now all back to normal. but i am stilll curios what happened |
| 13:22.50 | e-anima | the ips the packages went to are a taiwanese university. |
| 13:24.03 | jelly | you'll have to investigate for suspicious processes and network connections |
| 13:24.25 | e-anima | jelly any tips on that, like tools? |
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| 13:24.42 | e-anima | i think i test chkrootkit |
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| 13:26.05 | jelly | the usual. ps, top, pstree for processes; netstat or ss, and some sort of a sniffer like tcpdump for network connections; lsof and fuser for open files when investigating suspect processes |
| 13:26.16 | jelly | basic admin stuff |
| 13:26.26 | tgs3 | e-anima: investigating can be hard. you might want to get admin with experience in this topic, and first shutdown the computer and make image of disk |
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| 13:27.24 | tgs3 | if that is a simple work then basic tools will show it; but if it could get deeper (obtained root) then anyway it would be good to fully reinstall (or even check BIOS/hardware for troyans) |
| 13:27.46 | jelly | e-anima: knowing what services and process are supposed to be there, and which users they run as, having some sort of a baseline for those is very useful |
| 13:28.00 | tgs3 | for simple checks there are anti-troyans scanners rkhunter and afair chkrootkit |
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| 13:28.56 | jelly | those tools are rife with false positives and often miss stuff; they're not exhaustive and not a replacement for proper investigation but can be helpful |
| 13:29.11 | jelly | (I mean rkhunter or chkrootkit) |
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| 13:31.55 | e-anima | i am curious what he sent or did |
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| 13:33.05 | luichi | hello |
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| 13:35.01 | luichi | i want to blacklist vbox modules like vboxdrv vboxnetadp ... and following this guide i created vboxdrf.conf with blacklist vboxdrf inside and the same with vboxnetadp but they load at the startup. what's wrong? |
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| 13:36.50 | ksk | !tell luichi about blacklist |
| 13:37.05 | ksk | i dont know about that, but look what dpkg wrote you |
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| 13:38.13 | hiosix | Good day. Currently, I am using debian-life (wheezy) off a USB3 key. Upon boot, it is always known as /dev/sdb. Sometimes, sporadically, the stick is suddenly known as /dev/sdc, which, of course, leads to heavy inconsistencies... This happens with both of my USB3-keys (Corsair Flash Voyager and a Transcend one). Any idea? On slow USB2 ports, I have not had this issue so far. |
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| 13:39.40 | e-anima | i got it i guess |
| 13:39.43 | petern_ | Can you configure it to use uuids? Then it won't matter. |
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| 13:40.00 | jelly | hiosix: avoid refering to /dev/sd* devices explicitely. Use /dev/disk/by-id/ links instead, or UUIDs or LABELs |
| 13:41.06 | jelly | hiosix: there is no guarantee of /dev/sd order and naming in Linux |
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| 13:42.51 | e-anima | have you ever seen something like this. its from my apache log. http://paste.debian.net/hidden/3819447a/ someone managed to upload codefiles |
| 13:43.03 | luichi | ksk: ok thanks |
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| 13:56.46 | drbobb | hey the netinstall of wheezy is failing for me |
| 13:57.21 | drbobb | bzip2 cannot be installed due to failed dependency |
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| 13:59.29 | drbobb | so, what now? |
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| 14:00.52 | e-anima | it seems i got this: http://linux.m2osw.com/zmeu-attack |
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| 14:01.33 | luichi | hello |
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| 14:04.20 | jumperswitch | Hi |
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| 14:05.03 | luichi | my /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf looks like this http://pastebin.com/xtDdFHgm but vbox modules load at statup :( what is wrong? |
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| 14:05.15 | jumperswitch | I need lxc version 1.0.1, but debian wheezy only got lxc version 0.8.0-rc1 |
| 14:05.33 | abrotman | need? |
| 14:05.46 | jumperswitch | How can I upgrade? Do I have to compile it? Is it the kernel module or the api in userspace? |
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| 14:13.05 | drbobb | this is funny, I will be trying to install testing instead of stable, because installing stable is broken |
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| 14:13.20 | luichi | my /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local.conf looks like this http://pastebin.com/xtDdFHgm but vbox modules load at statup :( what is wrong? |
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| 14:14.22 | babilen | drbobb: Could you check on tty4 (alt-f4) for an actual error? You really shouldn't get a dependency error with wheezy installers. Which one (exactly!) did you use? Are you installing wheezy or jessie with it? |
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| 14:14.31 | mumpitze1 | !tell luichi about blacklist-initramfs |
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| 14:15.15 | luichi | mumpitze1: ok thank |
| 14:15.59 | luichi | mumpitze1: so i think this post is outdated no? https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting |
| 14:16.07 | drbobb | babilen: I already wrote what the error was |
| 14:16.29 | drbobb | bzip2 cannot be installed due to unsatisfied dependency |
| 14:16.46 | drbobb | I tried several different mirrors, no luck |
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| 14:16.55 | babilen | drbobb: what is the unspecified dependency? |
| 14:16.58 | babilen | err |
| 14:17.03 | babilen | unsatisfied :) |
| 14:17.05 | babilen | hehe |
| 14:17.15 | drbobb | wrong version of libbzip2 I think |
| 14:17.15 | mumpitze1 | luichi: no it's not. read it more carefully |
| 14:17.25 | drbobb | (I already rebooted) |
| 14:17.51 | babilen | drbobb: And are you sure that it says *exactly* that? |
| 14:17.51 | luichi | mumpitze1: i folled that guide before and didn't work |
| 14:17.55 | luichi | i got some errors |
| 14:18.04 | babilen | drbobb: okay, which installer did you use? |
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| 14:18.25 | luichi | running depmod -ae i got WARNING: -e needs -E or -F |
| 14:18.26 | sary | Good afternoon all! |
| 14:18.32 | drbobb | oh but if I kept basic GUI selected in tasksel, there was a load of unsatisfied dependencies for gnome as well |
| 14:18.36 | mumpitze1 | luichi: the wiki entry and the factoid tell you to do the same thing. if it doesn't work then you did it wrong |
| 14:19.07 | themill | drbobb: there is not a single unsatisfied dependency in wheezy. Precisely which installer image did you use? |
| 14:19.09 | drbobb | babilen: debian-7.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 14:19.11 | babilen | drbobb: Which installer did you use? Did you configure your network and mirrors? |
| 14:19.34 | sary | how to activate VGA_SWITCHEROO , and what is the proper meethod to mount debugfs for that ?! |
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| 14:20.15 | babilen | drbobb: That should work perfectly fine. Anything special about your installation/settings? Could you provide more details and the exact error message? |
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| 14:20.43 | drbobb | babilen: yes my network is okay. It's been a while, but I'm sure I've successfully installed Debian doozens of times in the past |
| 14:20.46 | luichi | running depmod -ae i got WARNING: -e needs -E or -F |
| 14:21.04 | drbobb | nothing special, I used defaults for about everything |
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| 14:21.24 | mumpitze1 | sary: first google hit for mount debugfs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debugfs |
| 14:21.39 | mumpitze1 | sary: not all hardware can use vgaswitcheroo. what laptop is it? |
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| 14:22.34 | drbobb | babilen: only special thing that comes to mind is I'm installing to a lvm volume |
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| 14:23.29 | Leoneof | what's the version of kernel in debian testing? |
| 14:23.52 | luichi | mumpitze1: running depmod -ae i got WARNING: -e needs -E or -F |
| 14:24.23 | mumpitze1 | luichi: and? |
| 14:24.30 | mumpitze1 | ,kernels |
| 14:24.31 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.12-rc7-686-pae (3.12~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 3.11-1-686-pae (3.11.6-2); jessie: 3.10-3-686-pae (3.10.11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.10-0.bpo.3-686-pae (3.10.11-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.51-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
| 14:25.34 | babilen | drbobb: Would you mind trying another image? Say the one with firmware from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ -- it would still be good to see the actual exact error message(s) you get. |
| 14:25.34 | sary | mumpitze1: it's a friend of mine Samsung laptop. |
| 14:26.39 | drbobb | babilen: at this point I'll try testing cause I already have it downloaded |
| 14:26.42 | mumpitze1 | sary: with consumer laptops it rarely works |
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| 14:27.29 | luichi | mumpitze1: how i avoid the warning? i know using -E or -F but what are the files i need for that parameters? |
| 14:28.30 | mumpitze1 | luichi: read the manpage |
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| 14:29.29 | babilen | drbobb: I wouldn't expect the testing installer to work at this point and you can install testing/jessie using the stable installer if you weren't aware of that. |
| 14:29.46 | sary | mumpitze1: Yeah, thanks! i've read about it and i read a mail last night from debian-dev http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/07/msg00336.html , if tried with booth method, but then the resault is cat: /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch: No such file or directory. |
| 14:30.18 | mumpitze1 | sary: check if it's mounted, then go to /sys/kernel/debug and use ls to check what is there |
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| 14:31.06 | sary | mumpitze1: it is , everything is there expect VGA_SWITCHEROO ! |
| 14:31.19 | drbobb | babilen: yes I'm aware, but at this point the wheezy installer isn't working |
| 14:31.27 | Leoneof | mumixam: thanks |
| 14:31.34 | Leoneof | mumpitze1: thanks :) |
| 14:31.44 | drbobb | babilen: that's why I said it was funny |
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| 14:33.05 | babilen | drbobb: It is quite unlikely that you get the same dependency error when you use the stable installer to install wheezy or testing. Either way, we would need a few more details and it might be a good idea to have detailed instructions on how to reproduce the issue. |
| 14:34.07 | drbobb | babilen: one thing to mention is that the installer pauses for quite a long while when it fails to find firmware for the wireless adapter |
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| 14:34.28 | drbobb | but after two or three minutes it recovers and continues |
| 14:34.41 | babilen | drbobb: Well, try the installer with firmware too |
| 14:34.43 | no_gravity | Hey Guys! Whats a good virtual machine to try Windows under Debian? |
| 14:35.01 | drbobb | babilen: guess I will, though I fail to see how that would matter |
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| 14:35.19 | babilen | no_gravity: kvm with virt-manager might be usable |
| 14:35.33 | sary | mumpitze1: I've tried booting with 'radeon.dpm=1' and without it , i've also asked here last night someone said it's working on s/he laptop with kernel 3,10 and without radeon.dpm=1 . |
| 14:35.35 | no_gravity | babilen: apt-get install kvm? |
| 14:35.48 | no_gravity | babilen: what about virtualbox? |
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| 14:36.10 | drbobb | babilen: yep using the testing installer I get a kernel crash |
| 14:36.27 | mintux_ | Hello to all. I would like to create a cloud system that can do even from stream with a sony bravia. In addition I wish you could see everything on a MediaBrowser. More or less like Serviio but I would opensource. They can also be two programs that work simultaneously. For cloud system to have outward, owncloud okay? |
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| 14:37.40 | babilen | no_gravity: What about it? |
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| 14:38.28 | mumpitze1 | sary: it depends on your HARDWARE if it works (and you will need to use kms) |
| 14:38.36 | no_gravity | babilen: i thought its kind of the standard |
| 14:38.43 | babilen | no_gravity: And I guess you want to install virt-manager -- see http://virt-manager.org/ for details |
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| 14:39.37 | babilen | no_gravity: I wouldn't consider it standard .. it might be more common among windows users and for some things, but kvm, xen, vmware, ... are probably used more frequently and for different things. Use vbox if you want that and are happy with it. |
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| 14:40.09 | babilen | no_gravity: Use whatever you like and feel most comfortable with. |
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| 14:40.53 | no_gravity | babilen: so you would rather use virt-manager then virtualbox? |
| 14:41.11 | sary | mumpitze1: Well, how could i determine that! http://pastebin.com/NrrYBnEw |
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| 14:43.01 | no_gravity | babilen: i used virtualbox before, so at least i would know how to use it. |
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| 14:43.19 | mumpitze1 | sary: so yes, you are using radeon KMS which is the first condition. but as I wrote abvoe: your hardware needs to support it. most/all consumer hardware does not |
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| 14:43.59 | no_gravity | babilen: but it was *dead slow* on my notebook. now i will try to run windows in a vm on my desktop. just would like to have it work. |
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| 14:45.39 | babilen | no_gravity: yes, I would use KVM (not necessarily with virt-manager), but I am also not virtualising Windows guests. Give it a try and see how it works for you; it certainly isn't a bad choice. |
| 14:45.40 | sary | mumpitze1: ;P |
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| 14:48.36 | drbobb | babilen: the url you gave me for the iso with firmware returns an empty page |
| 14:49.14 | drbobb | I am able to reach the bittorrent dir, but I think torrents are blocked at my office network |
| 14:50.21 | mumpitze1 | drbobb: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ gives you a list of debian architectures |
| 14:50.22 | drbobb | okay not blocked, but seeds are few and it's veeery slow |
| 14:50.32 | mumpitze1 | drbobb: there is no need for torrents |
| 14:50.39 | mumpitze1 | you can download it quite fast via http |
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| 14:50.53 | mumpitze1 | use the "iso-cd" directory |
| 14:50.59 | drbobb | mumpitze1: yep and going to amd64 I reach an empty page |
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| 14:51.11 | babilen | drbobb: that page shouldn't be empty, are you sure that your internet connection is fine? |
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| 14:51.26 | drbobb | babilen: it's fine thank you |
| 14:51.39 | babilen | drbobb: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-7.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso is the direct link |
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| 14:52.00 | mumpitze1 | babilen: it's empty for me too |
| 14:52.14 | drbobb | okay I reloaded a couple times and it worked |
| 14:52.27 | boudiccas | i'm trying to write a script that empties the trash, butthis line doesn't work - cd ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ + rm -rf * + exit; - but why please? |
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| 14:53.10 | drbobb | network's pretty good actually, it's coming in at better than 1MB/s |
| 14:53.12 | babilen | drbobb: Does http://ftp.acc.umu.se/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ work? |
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| 14:55.57 | drbobb | got it, will start testing in a minute |
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| 15:00.05 | hiosix | jelly, petern_: thanks |
| 15:00.41 | mintux_ | Hello to all. I would like to create a cloud system that can do even from stream with a sony bravia. In addition I wish you could see everything on a MediaBrowser. More or less like Serviio but I would opensource. They can also be two programs that work simultaneously. For cloud system to have outward, owncloud okay? |
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| 15:01.32 | babilen | boudiccas: #bash please, and you can't use + to connect commands. I also wouldn't recommend to cd and then rm * as it is much safer and more explicit to simply provide the whole path to rm |
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| 15:05.02 | mumpitze1 | mintux_: look at mediatomb or geexbox |
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| 15:11.30 | mintux_ | mumpitze1, These, however, are not as MediaBrowser? |
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| 15:11.56 | mumpitze1 | define "mediabrowser" |
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| 15:12.51 | SquirrelCZECH | hi folks |
| 15:12.57 | SquirrelCZECH | I've got debian based system |
| 15:13.01 | SquirrelCZECH | "cubian" |
| 15:13.22 | SquirrelCZECH | and I miss one driver (rtl8187 -> USB Wifi Realtek) ... is there a way to get that driver "online"? |
| 15:13.27 | SquirrelCZECH | without making new kernel? |
| 15:13.31 | mumpitze1 | !tell SquirrelCZECH about based on debian |
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| 15:15.01 | SquirrelCZECH | naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah :-/ |
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| 15:15.19 | abrotman | SquirrelCZECH: or use ##linux please |
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| 15:18.26 | Xat` | my authentication with nss-ldapd is very slow and nslcd does several queries for an authentication 'su - ldapusername' . here's the nslcd debug output : http://pastebin.com/wJ7VgwBr . and here's the nslcd.conf file : http://pastebin.com/0F6dcQJt |
| 15:18.40 | jelly | SquirrelCZECH: cubian isn't #debian, but a customized image and this channel does not know what changes have been done. Ask in #cubian, perhaps (I see you already tried in #cubieboard) |
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| 15:19.27 | jelly | and be patient in them small channels |
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| 15:23.18 | jumperswitch_ | I need lxc version 1.0.1, but debian wheezy only got lxc version 0.8.0-rc1 How can I upgrade? Do I have to compile it? Is it the kernel module or the api in userspace? Because the older version of lxc cannot be shutdown cleanly using libvirt (shouldn't this be a problem with libvirt instead?) |
| 15:23.20 | jumperswitch_ | Anyone? |
| 15:23.55 | abrotman | isn't LXC a kernel component? |
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| 15:24.19 | mintux_ | mumpitze1, MediaBrowser: site where you can see everything that I put in the stream, a sort of display on the web. Obviously, this allows me to see what I put on stream in the local network also outside, obviously with a dydns. Try looking at what he does Serviio. But it is paid: ( |
| 15:24.20 | mumpitze1 | ,v lxc |
| 15:24.21 | judd | Package: lxc on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.2-1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.0~rc1-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.0~rc1-8+deb7u1; jessie: 0.9.0~alpha3-2+deb8u1; sid: 0.9.0~alpha3-2+deb8u1; experimental: 1.0.0~alpha2-4 |
| 15:24.36 | abrotman | though I did ask why, he didn't answer |
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| 15:25.10 | mumpitze1 | jumperswitch_: you can't get lxc 1.0.1 in debian right now |
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| 15:25.29 | jumperswitch_ | mumpitze1: ok, so I have to build it from source, right? |
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| 15:25.51 | jumperswitch_ | mumpitze1: the question is, what has to be built by source? the kernel modules? or userspace stuff (which would be much more possible) |
| 15:26.29 | Dry_Lips | So, how likely do you guys it is that xfce will be default in Debian 8? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/11/debian-8-0-switches-xfce-default |
| 15:26.30 | petern_ | I don't think lxc is a kernel module. |
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| 15:26.49 | jelly | Dry_Lips: too early to say anything about it at this point |
| 15:26.55 | mumpitze1 | jumperswitch_: I would use a backports kernel (3.10) and then build the userland tools for 1.0.1 |
| 15:27.16 | mumpitze1 | petern_: lxc works together with kvm, no? |
| 15:27.19 | jumperswitch_ | mumpitze1: so backports = from dev to stable, right? |
| 15:27.28 | jumperswitch_ | mumpitze1: of course, it works execellently with kvm |
| 15:27.31 | petern_ | mumpitze1, nothing to do wtih kvm |
| 15:27.40 | mumpitze1 | jumperswitch_: 3.10 kernel is already in wheezy-backports. no need for you to do anything but install |
| 15:27.54 | mumpitze1 | petern_: so how does it contain? |
| 15:27.59 | jumperswitch_ | mumpitze1: why is the newer kernel needed? does the newer lxc in userspace require more features from a newer linux kernel? |
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| 15:28.23 | petern_ | cgroups |
| 15:28.41 | jumperswitch_ | petern_: so they added more features for cgroups in newer kernels then? |
| 15:28.50 | petern_ | jumperswitch_, i don't know |
| 15:29.06 | jumperswitch_ | petern_: what happens if I just compile the userspace tools and let the kernel untouched? Would lxc run with it? |
| 15:29.16 | petern_ | basically what I meant to say is that lxc isn't a kernel module, it relies on cgroups which is a core part of the kernel |
| 15:29.19 | mumpitze1 | jumperswitch_: you were asking. and I gave you a way to be on the safe side. worst that can happen is that it doesn't work. and you can always switch beween 3.2 and 3.10 as often as you want. your choice |
| 15:29.35 | mumpitze1 | jumperswitch_: ask the lxc folks and check dependendencies |
| 15:29.38 | jumperswitch_ | The whole point is that I want to be able to shut down a lxc container gracefully, which isn't possible with the libvirt-lxc combination of debian stable. |
| 15:29.55 | jumperswitch_ | mumpitze1: so it is just a simple apt command for changing the kernel then? |
| 15:30.05 | mumpitze1 | yes |
| 15:30.20 | mumpitze1 | provided you have set up wheezy-backports. backports.org |
| 15:30.38 | petern_ | i only do lxc without libvirt. not sure what the advantage is there, tbh. |
| 15:30.41 | jumperswitch_ | mumpitze1: any drawbacks? not really, right? |
| 15:30.58 | mumpitze1 | as I wrote: you can easily have more than one kernel installed and you can easily remove the kernel again |
| 15:31.07 | mintux_ | mumpitze1, are you there? |
| 15:31.23 | mumpitze1 | I think mintux needs to learn to read |
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| 15:31.35 | jumperswitch_ | petern_: the advantage is among others and which is the most attractive to me that libvirt automatically adds apparmor, some other sec stuff and at later time even svirt (when it is finished). |
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| 15:32.07 | jumperswitch_ | Well, he is a mintux, not a bigtux, so he is still too little to understand :) |
| 15:32.12 | mintux_ | mumpitze1, why? |
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| 15:32.57 | petern_ | ah, never used apparmor either, heh |
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| 15:35.59 | jumperswitch_ | petern_: isolation of lxc is still in maturing yet, so they add apparmor and other stuff around it to make it more secure |
| 15:36.05 | blackest_mamba | I'm trying to setup ipv6 on my 7.2 box |
| 15:36.18 | jumperswitch_ | petern_: the goals for lxc is among other more isolation, notably by svirt |
| 15:36.24 | blackest_mamba | I've added iface eth0 inet6 dhcp |
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| 15:36.40 | blackest_mamba | to /etc/rc.conf and restarting networking, but then both ipv4 and ipv6 are dead |
| 15:36.47 | blackest_mamba | I also tried iface eth0 inet6 auto |
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| 15:36.53 | Chousuke | I wonder what happened to all the SELinux packages in Debian :/ I can't find any info that isn't years old |
| 15:36.55 | blackest_mamba | and that doesn't work eithr |
| 15:37.08 | blackest_mamba | all my other machines have picked up address from my router |
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| 15:37.14 | blackest_mamba | so what am I doing wrong? |
| 15:37.29 | blackest_mamba | looking at https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration doesn't reveal my error |
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| 15:37.57 | Kingsy | guys, I was thinking of getting one of these --> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lilliput-UM1012T-10-1-USB-Powered-Multimedia/dp/B006441CVW <-- does linux support these devices? |
| 15:38.35 | jelly | Kingsy: assume it does not. |
| 15:38.40 | mumpitze1 | afaik there are no usb video drivers |
| 15:38.55 | Kingsy | awww seriously? |
| 15:39.01 | mumpitze1 | yes seriously |
| 15:39.02 | Kingsy | maaaan ;P |
| 15:39.05 | mumpitze1 | totally nonstandard |
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| 15:39.16 | Kingsy | yeah I was thinking it was quick bespoke |
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| 15:41.29 | jelly | mumpitze1: well, there are drivers for _some_ chips. (xserver-xorg-video-displaylink) |
| 15:41.29 | jumperswitch_ | mumpitze1: So there are no debian backports for wheezy? They changed it, right? |
| 15:41.33 | jumperswitch_ | http://backports.debian.org/Packages/ |
| 15:41.33 | drbobb | babilen: yep the image with firmware worked okay, which I don't really understand |
| 15:41.56 | jelly | mumpitze1: not necessarily in debian |
| 15:42.41 | mumpitze1 | jelly: usb to dp adapters? |
| 15:42.54 | mumpitze1 | oops. displaylink not displayport |
| 15:43.23 | mumpitze1 | jumperswitch_: read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 15:45.11 | jumperswitch_ | mumpitze1: So there is still backports for Debian Wheezy. But why isn't Wheezy offered in the package search form? |
| 15:45.26 | mumpitze1 | ask their website maintainer, not me |
| 15:45.51 | HideMe | what package do I need to get higher screen resolutions? |
| 15:46.08 | mumpitze1 | HideMe: what videocard and monitor? |
| 15:46.38 | HideMe | mumpitze1, vmware virtual machine. |
| 15:46.48 | HideMe | stuck at 4:3 rez. |
| 15:47.01 | abrotman | HideMe: did you install teh vmware tools? |
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| 15:47.09 | jelly | jumperswitch_: the web site for backports is a bit outdated |
| 15:47.25 | mumpitze1 | HideMe: install the vmware tools |
| 15:47.29 | jumperswitch_ | jelly: alright, because I thought they changed something fundamentally. |
| 15:47.44 | jelly | jumperswitch_: you could use "/msg judd versions foo" to find out if there's a backport of foo binary package |
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| 15:50.14 | e-anima | is there a log where you can see what files an ip downloaded fro mthe wserver? |
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| 15:50.24 | abrotman | the web server? |
| 15:50.30 | e-anima | not to, from |
| 15:50.41 | e-anima | like user X downloading files from the server |
| 15:50.45 | abrotman | you mean, your apache logs? |
| 15:50.48 | e-anima | via sftp or something |
| 15:50.51 | abrotman | oh, no |
| 15:51.14 | mumpitze1 | sftp doesn't log. apache and ftp servers usually do |
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| 15:51.35 | abrotman | maybe with the acct package |
| 15:52.17 | e-anima | damn. its because some taiwanese assholes hacked my server and i only see the traffic they did but not what they downloaded |
| 15:52.29 | e-anima | i am curious what they downloaded |
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| 15:53.06 | jelly | e-anima: your error.log paste showed output from wget, with URLs of what it downloaded. |
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| 15:53.32 | e-anima | no they did not use wget. i guess they used sftp. they have systemn access |
| 15:53.43 | e-anima | so not via url. |
| 15:53.58 | jelly | e-anima: your error.log showed something very, very much like wget output |
| 15:54.06 | e-anima | i am killing the complete server but i am curious if they ripped my work |
| 15:54.18 | e-anima | jelly yes they used that to upload files. a lot of stuff |
| 15:54.34 | jumperswitch_ | squeeze-backports: 0.8.0~rc1-4~bpo60+1 |
| 15:54.41 | jumperswitch_ | wait |
| 15:54.50 | e-anima | it seemed they use some kind of tool. there were exe files too. then they must somehow got root acces |
| 15:54.51 | jumperswitch_ | wheezy-backports == jessie, right? |
| 15:55.03 | e-anima | and installed stuff. already found a miner for bitcoins |
| 15:55.06 | jelly | e-anima: it would be prudent to figure out the entry point, more than what the malware used afterwards was |
| 15:55.18 | abrotman | e-anima: take it offline, make a copy of the data, do your work on that (not a live system) |
| 15:55.32 | e-anima | aboman thats what i do |
| 15:55.46 | e-anima | as it is a webserver i first need to cpy some stuff |
| 15:55.48 | jelly | e-anima: that way you could close that entry point on the next server |
| 15:55.48 | nkuttler | dpkg: test |
| 15:55.50 | dpkg | Test failed. |
| 15:56.21 | e-anima | jelly it must be through the /tmp. thats where they uploaded stuff to. that folder is root:root but is also 777 |
| 15:57.04 | jelly | e-anima: /tmp is only useful when you have local process under control already. |
| 15:57.06 | HideMe | abrotman, mumpitze1 Yes. Still only have low rez 4:3. |
| 15:57.20 | abrotman | HideMe: you have to reboot for it to take effect |
| 15:57.23 | disposable2 | while installing jessie, i noticed the option to create XFS pools/filesystems. does it mean I can now have boot environments or is it just some xfs-through-fuse thing? |
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| 15:57.32 | disposable2 | s/XFS/ZFS |
| 15:57.33 | e-anima | would be nice to find out how they did it but i cant do that unfortunately |
| 15:57.36 | jelly | e-anima: jumping from access to web server to having full control of a local process is what I meant. |
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| 15:57.51 | e-anima | maybe i forget some updates :( |
| 15:57.52 | abrotman | disposable2: still FUSE I believe |
| 15:58.01 | e-anima | shame on me |
| 15:58.08 | jelly | e-anima: you may have had vulnerable web apps. Often written in php. |
| 15:58.30 | e-anima | there was only drupal running |
| 15:58.48 | jelly | "only" |
| 15:58.56 | jumperswitch_ | wheezy-backports == jessie, right? |
| 15:59.08 | jelly | e-anima: the latest version, without any extensions or themes? |
| 15:59.13 | jumperswitch_ | because judd bot lists squeeze-backports but no wheezy-backports |
| 15:59.17 | jelly | or plugins or whatever |
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| 15:59.25 | jumperswitch_ | so I guess backports are always coming from a version above, so it is jessie then? |
| 15:59.31 | sary | If i'am tracking Jessie, and i have unstable/experimental in sources.list .. does that mean i need to apt-pin ! |
| 15:59.34 | disposable2 | abrotman: thank you |
| 15:59.37 | jelly | jumperswitch_: that means there is no version in wheezy-backports. |
| 15:59.54 | e-anima | oh you inspired me for something. i got some server of theri botnet. so i check the system running (drupal tooß) |
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| 16:01.42 | e-anima | http://urlquery.net/report.php?id=7401052 |
| 16:01.50 | e-anima | fun site to search that maleware shit |
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| 16:03.23 | Xat` | when I'm authenticating with ldapuser to my system, nslcd does queries about other users ... this could be my latency problem |
| 16:03.29 | Xat` | do you have an idea ? |
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| 16:06.42 | jumperswitch | jelly: ok, when there are no backports for lxc, it would have to be built from source of latest stable, right? |
| 16:06.53 | jumperswitch | jelly: So I git it out and run make over it |
| 16:07.06 | jumperswitch | jelly: but there are surely some other problems? |
| 16:07.09 | jelly | jumperswitch: I don't have a clue about lxc |
| 16:07.30 | jumperswitch | jelly: lxc = tools for userspace which use kernel features like cgroups and other stuff for kernel-level virtualization |
| 16:07.37 | FilipeMaia | Is there a way to get complex functions like asinh in clang++ without using c++11? |
| 16:07.38 | jumperswitch | something like lightweight containers for applications |
| 16:08.05 | jelly | I know what it is. Never used the thing, and telling what it is wouldn't change that fact |
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| 16:08.29 | jelly | I meant "I can't help you with that" |
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| 16:17.04 | jumperswitch | jelly: When there is no backport for it, the only option left would be to download a deb (if there is one) with the version wished or build it from source, right? |
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| 16:19.57 | jelly | jumperswitch: you'd really have to build it from source, using binary packages from other releases or distros is not a good idea |
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| 16:20.02 | jelly | !tell jumperswitch about ssb |
| 16:20.05 | jelly | !tell jumperswitch about uupdate |
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| 16:20.53 | jumperswitch | jelly: so the deb-src is still the old version but that uupdate tool is able to integrate the changes from newer versions into it? |
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| 16:21.45 | jumperswitch | !tell me about <deb-src sid> 2 |
| 16:22.00 | jumperswitch | !tell me me about <deb-src sid> |
| 16:22.04 | jumperswitch | !tell me about <deb-src sid> |
| 16:22.10 | jumperswitch | !tell me about deb-src sid |
| 16:22.12 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jumperswitch about selftell |
| 16:22.14 | abrotman | knock it off |
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| 16:23.08 | jelly | jumperswitch: you might pick the 1.0.0 deb-src from experimental and perhaps use that and 1.0.1 tarball with uupdate to create a deb source package for 1.0.1 |
| 16:23.26 | jelly | ,v lxc |
| 16:23.27 | judd | Package: lxc on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.2-1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.0~rc1-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.0~rc1-8+deb7u1; jessie: 0.9.0~alpha3-2+deb8u1; sid: 0.9.0~alpha3-2+deb8u1; experimental: 1.0.0~alpha2-4 |
| 16:23.47 | jumperswitch | jelly: so 1.0.0 from experimental uupdate it to 1.0.1 using uupdate, right? |
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| 16:24.05 | jumperswitch | jelly: it is still alpha, safe for production? |
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| 16:24.39 | jelly | jumperswitch: again, I have no idea about the software itself |
| 16:25.13 | jumperswitch | jelly: but stuff in experimental can be used for production? |
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| 16:26.03 | jelly | it might eat your cat and burn the curtains |
| 16:26.48 | jelly | jumperswitch: that's on your own to decide |
| 16:26.56 | jelly | you said you "needed" 1.0.1 |
| 16:27.18 | jumperswitch | jelly: yes, otherwise graceful shutdown is not possible using libvirt |
| 16:27.20 | jelly | I'm just suggesting a way to get userspace part of that version |
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| 16:27.52 | jumperswitch | jelly: damn, why haven't they just added this feature? Without it is quite pointless, one doesn't pull the plug for shutting down a system. |
| 16:27.58 | jhutchins_wk | Which group allows users to shut down the system? |
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| 16:29.30 | no_gravity | Hello! How can I tell grub to discover all partitions with OSes and make a nice mbr with a menu that lists them all? |
| 16:30.03 | no_gravity | os-prober? |
| 16:30.31 | mumpitze1 | yes |
| 16:30.53 | mumpitze1 | probably update-grub afterwards |
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| 16:31.14 | no_gravity | strangely, os-prober does not show the partition i booted from |
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| 16:32.05 | no_gravity | ok, did that. |
| 16:32.23 | no_gravity | lets see, what a restart does... |
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| 16:35.53 | Rovanion | What is the default shell of nobody? |
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| 16:38.35 | jhutchins_wk | Generally you just need to run update-grub, which runs os-prober for you. |
| 16:39.05 | jhutchins_wk | That frequently needs to be done after a new install for some reason. |
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| 16:39.29 | HideMe | mumpitze1, Still limited options after reboot. |
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| 16:45.04 | sary | how does one track to branches ? |
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| 16:45.39 | sary | to/s/two* |
| 16:46.00 | mumpitze1 | sary: by reinstalling debian soon after. |
| 16:46.06 | mumpitze1 | sary: which two branches? |
| 16:46.47 | sary | mumpitze1: jessie and sid. |
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| 16:47.16 | abrotman | why would you want to? |
| 16:47.17 | mumpitze1 | sary: that is possible. /msg dpkg tum |
| 16:48.02 | sary | that's possible, really! |
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| 16:48.36 | Bubo | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.2.0/amd64/bt-dvd/ -- DVD-1, DVD-2, DVD-3 -- is there a difference between these? |
| 16:48.43 | sary | I don't want to, but someone said if am only tracking one branch i don't need to pin! |
| 16:48.44 | Bubo | which one should I get? |
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| 16:51.13 | mumpitze1 | Bubo: dvd-1. dvd-2 and above are additional software. you don't need them. only dvd-1 has the installer |
| 16:51.43 | sary | mumpitze1: right, but does that mean i don't need to pin ! |
| 16:51.48 | mumpitze1 | Bubo: most used software by debian users is on dvd-1, 2nd most used on dvd-2, 3rd most used on dvd-3 and so on. ordered by popularity |
| 16:51.49 | Bubo | i see.. but I think i will download the small image |
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| 16:51.56 | mumpitze1 | sary: have you read the factoid? |
| 16:52.11 | sary | mumpitze1: I sure did. |
| 16:52.15 | mumpitze1 | Bubo: 250MB netinst is fine, depending how you access the internet |
| 16:52.28 | Bubo | what do you mean, mumpitze1? |
| 16:52.29 | mumpitze1 | sary: then guess what the default release thing does? |
| 16:52.40 | Bubo | ill run this in a VM |
| 16:52.42 | mumpitze1 | Bubo: how do you access the internet? wlan, lan? |
| 16:52.49 | mumpitze1 | Bubo: then netinst is fine |
| 16:53.04 | Bubo | ok great, thanks |
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| 16:54.42 | sary | mumpitze1: I fiald to guess! |
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| 16:56.24 | sary | I'm talking about apt-pinning here as a matter of fact. |
| 16:56.53 | Bubo | So, where should I start learning about debian ? This will be my first time running debian (I've used ubuntu before) |
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| 16:58.36 | mumpitze1 | !tell Bubo about grounding |
| 16:59.06 | sary | So, if am running testing and i want to install package foo from unstable/experimental .. i must set apt-pinning! |
| 16:59.14 | mumpitze1 | Bubo: many things there might not apply to you since you ran a linux before |
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| 16:59.25 | mumpitze1 | sary: no |
| 16:59.51 | mumpitze1 | sary: you simply do a apt-get -t unstable <package> basically |
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| 16:59.58 | babilen | Bubo: http://debian-handbook.info/ is great |
| 17:00.14 | babilen | dpkg: tell Bubo -about handbook |
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| 17:00.32 | Bubo | yeah dpkg told me already |
| 17:00.34 | Bubo | thanks |
| 17:01.02 | sary | mumpitze1: i have unstable and experimental in my sources.list , and you're saying that i don't need apt-pinning! |
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| 17:02.17 | mumpitze1 | sary: have you set default-release? |
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| 17:03.12 | sary | mumpitze1: am not sure, where default-release is set! |
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| 17:04.35 | Fozzy | Is there an easy way to get dpkg-buildpackage to generate 'data.tar.bz2' instead of 'data.tar.xz'? |
| 17:05.09 | sary | mumpitze1: ah, you mean in sources.list .. i have 3 branches so! |
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| 17:09.04 | sary | mumpitze1: the default release is set to jessie in apt.conf . |
| 17:09.46 | unseensoul | I've got an intel i3-2310m, 64-bit instruction set cpu and need to know whether I should download the amd64 or ia64 netinst file to install debian? |
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| 17:09.54 | babilen | Fozzy: You want to ask in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net -- look into dpkg-source and it's -Z option. But please explain why that is needed (in the mentors channel) |
| 17:10.06 | babilen | dpkg: tell unseensoul -about ia64 |
| 17:10.12 | babilen | unseensoul: You want amd64 |
| 17:10.23 | Fozzy | babilen: thanks! |
| 17:10.25 | babilen | (also read "/msg dpkg why amd64") |
| 17:11.05 | sary | So my question still remains , do i still need to apt-pin ! |
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| 17:12.44 | unseensoul | Thanks babilen :) |
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| 17:13.31 | unseensoul | babilen actually dpkg has no idea about "/msg dpkg why amd64" :) |
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| 17:14.01 | reavengrey | :( |
| 17:14.23 | babilen | unseensoul: heh, "/msg dpkg" sends a message to dpkg. If you are talking to it already just mention "why amd64" (without the "") |
| 17:14.25 | martin-_- | hi, i read some days ago, that new xen packages are avaibel for sid, so I'm able to run /host vm'S with xen? |
| 17:15.03 | sary | it's not a tricky question! i just wanna make sure i don't end up with a broke system when i upgrade! |
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| 17:15.58 | babilen | sary: You don't -- double check in "apt-cache policy" and read "man 5 apt_preferences" now and in toto! :) |
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| 17:17.20 | sary | babilen: are you sure not in nono! ;p |
| 17:17.28 | sary | will do , thanks. |
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| 17:29.07 | touki | Hi, any idea why CPU is heating when computer is sleeping and closed ? |
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| 17:29.56 | av0idz | touki seems like standby / sleep isnt behaving corretly |
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| 17:30.45 | zeebrah | I would like to play embedded browser video externally with vlc. Has anyone figured out a good way to do it? I have trouble finding the url for the stream |
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| 17:31.49 | av0idz | touki -> https://wiki.debian.org/Suspend |
| 17:32.02 | av0idz | zeebrah , why would you do that ? |
| 17:32.29 | zeebrah | av0idz: high cpu usage and fan noise - to avoid that |
| 17:32.38 | av0idz | mostly every single link to an flash or xvid movie online is different from each other |
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| 17:33.11 | av0idz | zeebrah , at sleep / suspend mode your notebook shouldnt even be spinning the fan |
| 17:33.26 | av0idz | i think your notebook gets hot cause your screen also wont turn off when closed |
| 17:33.31 | Bubo | I can't find info on the "web server" and "sql database" that you can select while installing from a small image |
| 17:33.46 | av0idz | oh sry |
| 17:33.47 | Blackvel | what do you guys think about backup-manager and tarball.tar.gz? are these directories enough or should I include one/some more? http://pastebin.com/V1ngNHGQ |
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| 17:34.24 | av0idz | mixxed you both zeebrah then download the videos from the websites, i ve seen that the debian build in video player totem can add a feature to iceweasel to retrieve the movie url |
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| 17:34.32 | av0idz | directly when opening the movie in browser |
| 17:34.35 | Blackvel | surely it is just meant for some file backup (and maybe being able to reconstruct / reinstall previous packages) and not for a 1:1 backup and emergency restore solution |
| 17:34.42 | mumpitze1 | sary: the factoid explicitly told you where to set the default release |
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| 17:38.01 | touki | AV0IDZ: THANKS |
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| 17:38.43 | av0idz | np touki |
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| 17:45.35 | amdp | hi |
| 17:46.32 | amdp | are there any installation I should take care of before installing webmin? |
| 17:47.58 | ksk | !tell amdp about webmin |
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| 17:48.20 | av0idz | not that i know amdp, just look at dependencies for webmin, i think your apt should install all that are necessery for you, everything else comes after installing webin depends on your needs |
| 17:48.35 | av0idz | !tell av0idz about webmin |
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| 17:49.10 | amdp | hmm I should get another option, not webmin |
| 17:49.10 | av0idz | :D |
| 17:49.14 | av0idz | true story |
| 17:49.24 | av0idz | !tell av0idz about ispconfig |
| 17:49.36 | socomm | !tell socomm about webmin |
| 17:49.39 | socomm | !tell socomm about ispconfig |
| 17:49.47 | av0idz | !tell av0idz about plesk |
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| 17:50.11 | av0idz | !tell av0idz about free whcp |
| 17:50.29 | av0idz | !tell av0idz about whcp |
| 17:50.49 | socomm | !tell socomm about webmin |
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| 17:51.30 | ksk | you can also query the bot.. |
| 17:51.36 | av0idz | !tell av0idz about ispCP |
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| 17:52.09 | ompaul | why don't you /msg dpkg foo and be happier |
| 17:52.15 | socomm | ksk: i see that, thx |
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| 17:52.44 | amdp | tell amdp about free whcp |
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| 17:53.01 | amdp | ompaul lol : ) |
| 17:53.14 | av0idz | !tell av0idz about dct |
| 17:53.23 | av0idz | !tell av0idz about dtc |
| 17:53.41 | av0idz | !tell av0idz about gnupanel |
| 17:54.20 | shingouz | !tell av0idz about msg the bot |
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| 17:56.27 | amdp | hmm seems like ispconfig's the only one |
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| 17:57.32 | av0idz | ispconfig is good im using it myself |
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| 17:57.47 | av0idz | there are lots of tutorials out there how to set it up |
| 17:57.58 | av0idz | but still everything depends on your needs |
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| 18:07.24 | doebi | is there an alternative for oracles sqldevloper |
| 18:07.26 | doebi | ? |
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| 18:07.45 | sjamaan | What's sqldevloper? |
| 18:07.57 | socomm | What is sqldeveloper? |
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| 18:08.24 | CissWit | doebi: you can try squirrel |
| 18:08.28 | doebi | some stupid oracle propertiary shit my university wants us to use for homework |
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| 18:08.54 | socomm | doebi: 'propietary shit' that doesn't tell me what it is though |
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| 18:09.18 | ompaul | if only there was a way to search the internet |
| 18:09.24 | socomm | Let see I use DBeaver and MySQLYog |
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| 18:09.42 | doebi | socomm: http://bit.ly/YcEgkN |
| 18:09.52 | socomm | And there is also TOAD for oracle. |
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| 18:10.07 | sjamaan | just uses psql |
| 18:10.15 | sjamaan | Sometimes from emacs |
| 18:10.22 | CissWit | doebi: anyway if you are working on oracle database you will need piece of proprietary software, at list for libraries |
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| 18:10.52 | socomm | doebi: http://bit.ly/ss2hWm -- here's a list of clients which will work for you |
| 18:11.18 | sjamaan | And on freaky days I use adminer.php |
| 18:11.18 | sjamaan | I sure hope they don't require Oracle |
| 18:11.18 | sjamaan | You should be learning relational database theory, or SQL instead of Oracle SQL |
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| 18:11.40 | doebi | sjamaan: tell our profs |
| 18:11.47 | sjamaan | No, you should demand it |
| 18:11.53 | sjamaan | It's your education, you're paying for it |
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| 18:13.14 | Neobenedict | !uptime |
| 18:13.15 | benster | Windows7 Uptime: 6days 20hrs 37mins 31secs Best: 1wk 1day 21hrs 15mins 12secs |
| 18:13.35 | daemonkeeper | oO |
| 18:13.45 | CissWit | that was unexpected |
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| 18:15.14 | jelly-home | doebi: sql developer is good enough, if you have to connect to oracle db. I sometimes use an old, 2005-ish copy of aqua data studio -- a java app with Oracle 8i compatibility |
| 18:15.50 | doebi | jelly-home: but i cant download linux binaries |
| 18:15.58 | jelly-home | doebi: why not? |
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| 18:17.50 | sjamaan | jelly-home: At a guess, maybe it's only for Oracle Linux(TM)(R)(C) |
| 18:17.53 | socomm | doebi: TOAD for oracle, tons of professionals use |
| 18:18.08 | socomm | doebi: its a Java App, so it should work on Linux |
| 18:18.18 | doebi | isnt TOAD a character in Super Mario? |
| 18:18.31 | sjamaan | Sounds slow |
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| 18:19.07 | doebi | i am a student i wont buy TOAD |
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| 18:19.17 | sjamaan | Why on earth are they bothering with such difficult to obtain, expensive software in the first place? |
| 18:19.26 | socomm | There is a free version. |
| 18:19.29 | sjamaan | There are plenty of good freely available, standards compliant implementations of SQL |
| 18:19.42 | sjamaan | PostgreSQL, Firebird and SQLite for instance |
| 18:20.05 | sjamaan | SQLite is a standalone binary of a few K, which needs even no daemon |
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| 18:20.32 | jelly-home | sjamaan: it's a tarball that works on any linux... if you don't know what the user is asking about, keep quiet |
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| 18:20.38 | socomm | sjamaan: A Oracle DBA ears quite a bit of money. |
| 18:20.50 | abrotman | socomm: any competent DBA does |
| 18:20.56 | sjamaan | yeah |
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| 18:21.21 | sjamaan | Recently I saw one on postgresql-jobs for $300K/year |
| 18:21.28 | jelly-home | but yeah, there's trial toad available for download, requiring registration |
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| 18:23.42 | jelly-home | doebi: what happens when you try to download sql developer for "other platforms" at http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/sql-developer/downloads/index.html ? |
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| 18:26.37 | mablae | Hello! |
| 18:27.09 | mablae | I want to setup a wifi hotspot using hostapd but have no luck |
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| 18:27.28 | doebi | http://make-everything-ok.com/ |
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| 18:28.11 | abrotman | doebi: please stop |
| 18:28.25 | e-anima | how would you, as easy as possible, trasnsfer one film from one webserver to another. i only know fxp. maye something with ssh sftp? |
| 18:28.43 | mablae | I can see the wifi but cannot connect to it... When started hostapd by hand in shell the log looks good but no logs for any incoming connection... Just the setup runs through until 'Interfaces are done' sth like that |
| 18:29.04 | jelly-home | e-anima: film? |
| 18:29.05 | mablae | e-anima, scp.. ? |
| 18:29.37 | mablae | jelly-home, let's call it iso image :-) |
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| 18:32.19 | e-anima | no not filmes |
| 18:32.24 | e-anima | hige amout of jpeg files |
| 18:32.28 | e-anima | and mysql dumps |
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| 18:33.00 | jelly-home | e-anima: just files, or the directory structure as well? What about permissions and ownerships? |
| 18:33.08 | socomm | e-anima: tar and then sftp |
| 18:33.13 | socomm | e-anima: or rsync |
| 18:33.17 | socomm | rsync + sftp |
| 18:33.31 | e-anima | ok i will try to find some reading material on that |
| 18:33.32 | jelly-home | no need for sftp, just rsync (over ssh) |
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| 18:33.50 | e-anima | well permissions can be set again |
| 18:33.55 | socomm | You can use something like star which is a multi-threaded tar, which takes advantage of multi-core processors |
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| 18:34.01 | e-anima | because of the images i can do it recusively all the same |
| 18:34.23 | e-anima | well i dont want to make a 100 gb zip file? dont i? |
| 18:34.36 | jelly-home | e-anima: if the destination machine is trusted and the source machine is compromised, use rsync -Pa source:/path/to/dir/ ./ or scp -pr source:/path/to/dir ./ |
| 18:34.52 | socomm | tar does not compress, but rsync might be the best solution for you |
| 18:34.52 | e-anima | exactly thats how it is |
| 18:35.04 | e-anima | thanks jelly i try that |
| 18:35.11 | jelly-home | I'm kind of assuming you're migrating data off the screwed up system from few hours ago |
| 18:35.16 | e-anima | exactly |
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| 18:54.34 | michal_ | it work, thanks ;) |
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| 18:56.15 | michal_ | so now I will install bumblebee:P |
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| 18:58.23 | michal_ | if I have debian for desktop better is have stable or testing? |
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| 18:59.45 | Skaag | do I have to run policykit? I have a system that runs Xorg and a full screen browser as a kiosk, and I'm trying to conserve memory and cpu as much as possible. |
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| 18:59.47 | wdouglass | michal_: testing is more likely to break -- you have to decide if you want your system to be stable, or more up to date (newer packages, etc...) |
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| 19:00.12 | michal_ | testing is often break?:P |
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| 19:01.19 | wdouglass | michal_: i wouldn't say often, but it does once in a while |
| 19:01.41 | michal_ | ;) |
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| 19:01.58 | michal_ | I have sid for 2 month ;P |
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| 19:10.52 | michal_ | [ERROR]You've no permission to communicate with the Bumblebee daemon. Try adding yourself to the 'bumblebee' group |
| 19:10.55 | michal_ | how can I do it? |
| 19:11.43 | mumpitze1 | michal_: man addgrou and /msg dpkg permissions |
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| 19:18.04 | michal_ | dont know how do it D: |
| 19:18.06 | michal_ | lol |
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| 19:18.20 | michal_ | gpasswd -a $USER michal bumblebee |
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| 19:20.38 | babilen | michal_: "adduser michal_ bumblebee" should be all you need. |
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| 19:22.46 | michal_ | I am member bumblebee but I m not member bumblebee 0.0 |
| 19:23.35 | stmiller | I think gpasswd can only do one group at a time |
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| 19:36.13 | Che-Anarch | On Wheezy where is the default linux-kernel source? just looking for a .config / need to enable: CONFIG_USB_XHCI_HCD=y - but dont want to reinstall |
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| 19:37.17 | mumpitze1 | Che-Anarch: you need to install it. |
| 19:37.37 | mumpitze1 | !tell Che-Anarch about kernel handbook |
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| 19:46.36 | DANtheBEASTman | I'm writing a guide on how to backport from source: https://gist.github.com/DanielFGray/7108454 I'd love some criticism |
| 19:49.27 | babilen | dpkg: tell DANtheBEASTman -about package recompile |
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| 19:50.28 | babilen | DANtheBEASTman: You either should go into dch and local versions (e.g. +local1), setting up proper keysigning infrastructures or pass some options to dpkg-buildpackage. |
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| 20:00.23 | Che-Anarch | What do I do with: linux-patch-3.2-rt.patch.bz2 ? - do I need this? I was going to do: scripts/extract-ikconfig - and build - not sure how patch comes in. |
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| 20:03.14 | maxyz | Che-Anarch: Do you need an -rt kernel? If not, ignore it. |
| 20:04.27 | Che-Anarch | maxyz sorry whats an -rt kernel? |
| 20:04.37 | mumpitze1 | real time |
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| 20:05.10 | Che-Anarch | sounds monolithic - isnt regular kernel rt? :-p |
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| 20:08.05 | michal_ | http://pastebin.com/Ui0bLgC3 - I cant run steam |
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| 20:13.14 | phogg | oh aptitide, why are you so crazy? |
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| 20:14.00 | phogg | So many times it will do everything in its power to avoid upgrading a package, even if it means suggesting to remove huge swaths of my system including the package I wanted to update. |
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| 20:14.24 | michal_ | ;) |
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| 20:14.44 | abrotman | phogg: sounds like stuff is out of date on the system you're having problems with .. done a full-upgrade lately? |
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| 20:19.55 | phogg | abrotman: yes and no, respectively |
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| 20:20.08 | phogg | abrotman: I know why it gets confused, but it's still funny |
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| 20:20.30 | michal_ | how can I back "apt-get install xxxx"? |
| 20:20.58 | phogg | michal_: apt-get remove xxxx will deinstall the package, but your system state will not be exactly the same afterwards. |
| 20:21.00 | abrotman | michal_: where did it go ? |
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| 20:21.49 | michal_ | I installed nvidia drivers |
| 20:21.55 | michal_ | and bumblebee was fucked ;< |
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| 20:22.46 | michal_ | on fedora is "yum history" "yum history undo "number"" |
| 20:22.48 | michal_ | :D |
| 20:23.31 | michal_ | [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver |
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| 20:23.43 | michal_ | and I want back apt-get ;) |
| 20:24.49 | nvteighen | ok, APT is not as good as pacman when you want to roll back to a previous state... but yum, no way |
| 20:25.12 | jelly-home | There Is No Downgrade |
| 20:25.17 | michal_ | really? |
| 20:25.20 | nvteighen | (I'd love to see pacman -Runs be implemented into APT) |
| 20:25.23 | michal_ | so I must reinstall debian ;/ |
| 20:25.32 | e-anima | jelly-home its seem i found their shit. http://207.56.205.215/.../flwd1 |
| 20:25.54 | e-anima | insatlled some kind of IrcBot |
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| 20:27.16 | jelly-home | michal_: well, it depends. Some packages don't mess with their data and it's possible to downgrade. Others may change their data structures, like eg. postgresql so downgrading just the code would leave you with old code and new db schema, which would not work |
| 20:28.16 | michal_ | I will reboot |
| 20:28.18 | michal_ | brb |
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| 20:29.53 | Ontological | I've got dhcp and dns server set up on a computer acting as a gateway. The problem I'm facing is the server itself isn't using it's DNS entries. ie: test.example.tld is set to a specific IP, but the gateway is using another DNS server instead of itself to make the lookup. Any suggestions? |
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| 20:32.23 | socomm | Ontological: edit /etc/resolv.conf manually |
| 20:32.36 | Ontological | Will that change at reboot, socomm ? |
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| 20:33.13 | socomm | Ontological: only if you're host dhcps, and it shouldn't be configured to DHCP if the host is a DHCP server |
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| 20:33.35 | socomm | Ontological: you can always make the file read-only, to prevent it from changing |
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| 20:34.24 | socomm | https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
| 20:34.27 | socomm | https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Defining_the_.28DNS.29_Nameservers |
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| 20:35.03 | Ontological | Thanks socomm |
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| 20:35.59 | Ontological | socomm: Do you know if a bind configuration file can have multiple $ORIGINs? ie: Two tld's with the same configuration? |
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| 20:36.41 | Ontological | I'll /join #bind :D |
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| 20:37.03 | michal_ | I installed bumblebe, it work, but I installed wrong nvidia drivers and now dont work |
| 20:37.05 | michal_ | how can I repair it? |
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| 20:41.06 | socomm | http://bit.ly/zeRE8i |
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| 20:41.26 | socomm | Is this the same bumblee that removed /usr when uninstalled? |
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| 20:51.53 | woshty | Has grip been removed from the repos? |
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| 20:53.07 | mati_user_irc | Install debian wheezy packages main I Install snort / snort-mysql / an now trying to install acidlab or acidbase front ends but I think they removed from repos main / Any suggestions. Thanks |
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| 21:08.15 | NotJimCarrey | how to i tell apt-get to use a local directory? |
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| 21:15.40 | jordanm | NotJimCarrey: you can use file:/ in sources.list, but it doesn't quite work like yum localinstall |
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| 21:16.55 | Rocco_Gambino | Hello |
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| 21:17.13 | Rocco_Gambino | why is the correct use of memory, htop or top? thanks |
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| 21:19.22 | e-anima | jelly-home: http://www.securityblogger.net/2013/10/php-5xapache-remote-code-execution.html |
| 21:19.34 | e-anima | thats waht they used, just for info as you talked with me before |
| 21:19.54 | Rocco_Gambino | why is the correct use of memory, htop or top? thanks |
| 21:20.24 | e-anima | what? |
| 21:20.37 | abrotman | Rocco_Gambino: they should be the same, though, "free -m" is probably easier to read |
| 21:20.38 | e-anima | i thought htop was just more colorful with some infos |
| 21:21.02 | Rocco_Gambino | im confused.. |
| 21:21.21 | Rocco_Gambino | and scary of top |
| 21:21.27 | Rocco_Gambino | says that only have a little ram |
| 21:21.35 | Rocco_Gambino | escuse my english* |
| 21:21.48 | abrotman | Rocco_Gambino: "free -m", please show us in paste.debian.net |
| 21:22.02 | Rocco_Gambino | ok, thanks |
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| 21:22.35 | zophy | can evince view a 16 MB .eps file ? |
| 21:22.37 | shafire | hi |
| 21:22.52 | shafire | do you name your private network 192.168.1.* eth0 or eth1? |
| 21:22.53 | abrotman | zophy: try it? |
| 21:23.32 | zophy | it was being piped, i'll extract the data first now |
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| 21:24.16 | Rocco_Gambino | http://paste.debian.net/64171/ |
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| 21:25.57 | Rocco_Gambino | http://paste.debian.net/64171/ |
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| 21:26.51 | abrotman | Rocco_Gambino: yo have plenty of free RAM |
| 21:27.05 | Rocco_Gambino | yes? |
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| 21:27.14 | abrotman | yes |
| 21:27.18 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Rocco_Gambino about free ram |
| 21:27.23 | NotJimCarrey | jordanm: i basically have a local mirror on an sd card that I want to use in sources.list until I get everything back up in running. would I just add "deb file://mnt/sd debian main"? |
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| 21:27.36 | abrotman | Rocco_Gambino: roughly, actual free RAM is "free + buffers" |
| 21:27.55 | abrotman | Rocco_Gambino: sorry, "free + cached + buffers" |
| 21:27.56 | Rocco_Gambino | include buffers |
| 21:28.01 | abrotman | yes |
| 21:28.13 | Rocco_Gambino | so htop is the correct* one? |
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| 21:28.24 | abrotman | i can't see your top/htop |
| 21:28.31 | Rocco_Gambino | wjthowt buffers,cache.. |
| 21:28.45 | Rocco_Gambino | wait |
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| 21:30.02 | Rocco_Gambino | http://paste.debian.net/64175/ |
| 21:30.03 | Rocco_Gambino | top.. |
| 21:31.01 | abrotman | Rocco_Gambino: did you read the man pages? |
| 21:31.07 | Rocco_Gambino | htop says 298 of 1222ram.. |
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| 21:31.20 | Rocco_Gambino | nop, im noob in linux man |
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| 21:31.33 | abrotman | man top, man htop .. read them |
| 21:32.15 | Rocco_Gambino | ok, sorry |
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| 21:33.02 | jaami | i have an executeble file that i want to run but i dont want to type full long path of the file. i want to type name of executeable anywhere and it should run without long path. what is the easiest way? |
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| 21:33.45 | abrotman | jaami: add it to your path |
| 21:33.54 | luichi | hello i want to blacklist some modules for example vboxdrv, vboxnetadp etc so i followed this guide https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting but they load at the startup what i do wrong? |
| 21:34.08 | jaami | oh, thats not possible for me |
| 21:34.13 | luichi | depmod -ae gives me the error WARNING: -e needs -E or -F |
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| 21:34.30 | jaami | i spent 3 days to set path but no success |
| 21:34.53 | jaami | there is no other way? |
| 21:35.27 | NotJimCarrey | does this look right in sources.list for a local repo? "deb file://mnt/sd/debian sid main contrib non-free" |
| 21:35.48 | histo | jaami: how did you try and add it to your path? |
| 21:36.35 | jordanm | luichi: blacklist only prevents automatic loading |
| 21:36.45 | histo | jaami: https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables |
| 21:36.51 | jaami | change etc/profile but it did not work. echo path shoes my changes but the executeable does not run |
| 21:37.00 | jaami | changed*** |
| 21:37.03 | jordanm | luichi: either a module still being loaded depends on one you are blacklisting or something is loading it manually eg /etc/init.d/vboxdrv |
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| 21:37.32 | jaami | shows*** |
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| 21:38.24 | luichi | jordanm: firstly i modprobe -r them looking dependcies with lsmod and all well. maybe is what you say abaout /etc/init.d/vboxdrv |
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| 21:39.10 | luichi | jordanm: is /etc/init.d/virtualbox how can i avoid it loading at startup? |
| 21:39.19 | histo | jaami: please pastebin your echo $PATH and the ls -l to/app |
| 21:39.29 | jordanm | luichi: chkconfig virtualbox off |
| 21:40.11 | luichi | jordanm: that will avoid loading at startup? and if i want to run virtualbox later? |
| 21:40.24 | luichi | luichi: apart of modprobe the modules |
| 21:40.42 | luichi | jordanm: /etc/init.d/virtualbox start ? |
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| 21:43.55 | jordanm | luichi: yes |
| 21:44.17 | jordanm | or service virtualbox start if you are using systemd |
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| 21:44.57 | luichi | jordanm: what you are saying is this: *This procedure does not prevent another process from requesting a module addition during boot or runtime. Ex. - shorewall. ? |
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| 21:46.41 | jordanm | luichi: yes, it only prevents autoloading at boot |
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| 21:47.20 | luichi | jordanm: aham. another thing i dont have chkconfig there is another command? (i now i can install chkconfig package) |
| 21:47.31 | luichi | jordanm: and how i know if im using systemd (i have debian testing) |
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| 21:48.23 | jordanm | luichi: yes, you can install it. you are not using systemd unless you explicitly set it up |
| 21:48.43 | luichi | jordanm: ok thanks |
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| 21:51.56 | luichi | jordanm: and you know how can i avoid this warning when i run depmod -ae WARNING: -e needs -E or -F i see you have to use -E or -F but i dont know their meaning |
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| 21:52.32 | jaami | histo, i found mistake. please let me try to fix before pasting output. |
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| 21:53.06 | jaami | histo: |
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| 21:55.06 | jaami | histo, i did not paste correct files of node.js into new folder i added in path |
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| 21:57.22 | e-anima | http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1317514 |
| 21:57.24 | e-anima | lol |
| 21:57.38 | e-anima | current debian 6 php version is 5.3.3 |
| 21:57.46 | e-anima | so i guess that is whay i got hacked |
| 21:58.07 | abrotman | that depends on how they got in .. you can't say that for sure |
| 21:58.58 | e-anima | they used that bug. i checked logs and googled around |
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| 21:59.16 | e-anima | i can see my logs /cgi-bin/php-cgi?%2D%64+%61%6C%6C%6F%77%5F%75%72%6C%5F%69%6E%63%6C%75%64% and so on |
| 21:59.40 | e-anima | http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/29290/ |
| 21:59.42 | e-anima | like that |
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| 22:00.06 | e-anima | i also got my logs and saw that they used it to upload stuff also gut their scripts. |
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| 22:03.20 | NotJimCarrey | anyone? |
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| 22:10.54 | kruug | running apache2, I'm looking to cache a few files. I've never done it before, and the apache documentation is too high-level for me... |
| 22:11.00 | kruug | anyone availalbe to help |
| 22:11.01 | fnordperfect | follow danwood_uk |
| 22:11.01 | kruug | ? |
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| 22:11.36 | bezaban | dpkg: cve lookup CVE-2012-1823 |
| 22:11.36 | dpkg | Information about the security advisory CVE-2012-1823 may be found at http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2012-1823 |
| 22:13.04 | bezaban | e-anima: fixed |
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| 22:13.40 | e-anima | so this was fixed when exactly |
| 22:13.59 | e-anima | i try to check that |
| 22:14.00 | bezaban | check link |
| 22:14.11 | e-anima | where is the date? |
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| 22:14.19 | e-anima | 2012? |
| 22:14.33 | bezaban | ah, right, might need to dig deeper for the exact date, but that's when the CVE was released |
| 22:14.39 | e-anima | hm |
| 22:14.44 | e-anima | i had that update |
| 22:14.48 | e-anima | if its that old |
| 22:15.47 | bezaban | that exploit was just recently posted on bugtraq though |
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| 22:19.20 | DammitJim | gosh, I'm going to make someone go crazy with this question, but where the heck is the proper place to put an application such as wrapper-linux (java service wrapper) for my application? |
| 22:19.32 | DammitJim | They are talking about putting this in /usr/lib/ ? |
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| 22:20.36 | gbit | How can I update libreoffice to a newer version, just install .deb new package over the old one? |
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| 22:22.56 | DammitJim | or is there no standard for these things? |
| 22:23.17 | mumpitze1 | DammitJim: /usr/local |
| 22:23.38 | mumpitze1 | gbit: which version of libreoffice are you running now? |
| 22:23.41 | DammitJim | that's what I thought, mumixam |
| 22:23.45 | DammitJim | mumpitze1, |
| 22:23.59 | DammitJim | the tricky part about /usr/local/ is permissions |
| 22:24.02 | mumpitze1 | !tell DammitJim about stow |
| 22:24.17 | mumpitze1 | how is it tricky, you just have to install as root |
| 22:25.01 | DammitJim | so, it's ok to uncompress a tar.gz as root and run it all as root? |
| 22:25.09 | gbit | mumpitze1: 3.5.4.2 |
| 22:25.17 | mumpitze1 | gbit: then use wheezy backports |
| 22:25.20 | mumpitze1 | ,v libreoffice |
| 22:25.21 | judd | Package: libreoffice on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1:3.5.4+dfsg-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1:4.1.2-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:4.1.2-2; sid: 1:4.1.3-1 |
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| 22:25.37 | mumpitze1 | !tell gbit about backports |
| 22:25.53 | mumpitze1 | gbit: go to backports.org, follow the instructions |
| 22:26.01 | gbit | thank you |
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| 22:27.32 | jaami | i want to change path for root. plz tell me how to do it? |
| 22:29.09 | jaami | the change of path for user worked when i changed /etc/profile but i dont know what file should be changed for root |
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| 22:29.47 | mumpitze1 | jaami: /etc/profile changes it both, for root and normal user |
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| 22:30.06 | jaami | ok i try |
| 22:30.35 | mumpitze1 | jaami: /etc/profile has two lines where it sets PATH. the first one sets it for root, the 2nd one for normal users |
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| 22:31.21 | jaami | oh ok :) thats quite easy |
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| 22:33.19 | e-anima | hm i try to reinstall a package. first i did aptitude -purge mysql-server |
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| 22:33.30 | e-anima | then aptiude install mysql-server |
| 22:33.42 | e-anima | then dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server (whcih does nothing) |
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| 22:35.43 | e-anima | i want to delete the config files too..purge doesnt do taht as it seems |
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| 22:39.52 | cafuego | They're in mysql-common, not mysql-server. |
| 22:41.44 | jaami | mumpitze1, the path for root has correct entries in profile but when echo path with root loged in i see old path |
| 22:41.54 | jaami | http://paste.debian.net/64186/ |
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| 22:42.56 | e-anima | thx cafuego |
| 22:43.39 | mumpitze1 | jaami: probably not a login shell or such. edit the .bash_profile in /root then |
| 22:43.40 | e-anima | boa. is it so hard to just remove ap ackage. every time i try this i fail completely |
| 22:43.53 | e-anima | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.05 | deepy | That is always good idea |
| 22:44.25 | mumpitze1 | e-anima: dpkg -l |grep mysql go to town |
| 22:44.55 | e-anima | go to town? |
| 22:44.59 | e-anima | lol? |
| 22:45.45 | mumpitze1 | it will list the stuff you want to purge |
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| 22:46.14 | e-anima | ah ok i thought aptitude would do the dependencys |
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| 22:48.19 | luichi | hello |
| 22:48.26 | luichi | how can i avoid networkmanager loading at startup? |
| 22:49.19 | nvteighen | luichi: remove Network Manager's init script? |
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| 22:49.56 | nvteighen | but I'd like to know why you want to do that, though |
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| 22:50.25 | martint | What happens if there is change in DST? Is the tzdata package updated in this case? |
| 22:50.48 | mumpitze1 | yes |
| 22:50.54 | nvteighen | martint: it should be... if not, report the bug |
| 22:51.18 | martint | mumixam, nvteighen: ok, thanks! |
| 22:51.31 | luichi | nvteighen: ups ok! |
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| 22:52.08 | nvteighen | luichi: really, what do you want to achieve? |
| 22:52.27 | e-anima | ok and to reinstall i do aptitude install mysql-server |
| 22:52.31 | e-anima | right? |
| 22:52.42 | cafuego | More or less, yes |
| 22:53.04 | nvteighen | luichi: if this was Arch Linux we were talking about, well... NM is sometimes more cumbersome than the usual dhdcpd setup |
| 22:53.08 | luichi | nvteighen: nothing i solved the problem |
| 22:53.49 | luichi | nvteighen: my pc has a switch to disable wifi and bluetooth by hardware. is there any way to disable them without the switch? |
| 22:54.26 | mumpitze1 | !tell luichi about rfkill |
| 22:54.42 | luichi | mumpitze1: yes but rfkill only disables software |
| 22:54.45 | e-anima | it still does not create the coinfig files, and is not setting password...just errror can not set password ..blabla |
| 22:54.46 | nvteighen | should learn about that !tell thing |
| 22:54.49 | e-anima | this drives me insane |
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| 22:55.17 | e-anima | i just want to KILL the whole mysql server with ALLL DATA and the reinstall |
| 22:55.31 | e-anima | i dont get why i fail and fail |
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| 22:56.36 | mumpitze1 | !tell e-anima about confmiss |
| 22:57.16 | e-anima | ok thx. so purge doesnt really delete config files |
| 22:57.32 | cafuego | e-anima: Generally, purging mysql-common and mysql-server does not remove the database(s). |
| 22:57.38 | mumpitze1 | it does delete them |
| 22:57.46 | luichi | mumpitze1: ? |
| 22:57.46 | e-anima | ok, so that is a special case? |
| 22:57.55 | luichi | mumpitze1: rfkill only disables software |
| 22:58.04 | cafuego | e-anima: Yes. People do not usually want to trash their data :-) |
| 22:58.15 | mumpitze1 | luichi: please check the documentation for it yourself |
| 22:58.16 | e-anima | but in general purge should remnove config files? |
| 22:58.27 | e-anima | only mysql here makes the special case |
| 22:58.46 | mumpitze1 | e-anima: it does, yes. and a database is no config file but user data. it will never be deleted. same for config files in home directories |
| 22:58.49 | cafuego | purge removes config files that were provided by the package |
| 22:58.56 | mumpitze1 | mysql is no special case |
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| 22:59.47 | riceandbeans | how is the /etc/networks file generated? |
| 22:59.50 | luichi | mumpitze1: yes i i read the man and it works rfkill block 0 rfkill block 1 but it only disables software |
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| 23:01.40 | e-anima | hmmmm aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall mysql-server that actually did not do nothing |
| 23:02.28 | mumpitze1 | cause mysql-server doesn't really do many or any config files. you've been told already that mysql-common does this before |
| 23:02.32 | cafuego | Well, as I pointed out, the config file actually lives in mysql-common |
| 23:03.10 | e-anima | puh i though aptitude would resolve that dependency stuff. i still dont get apt-get vs aptitude |
| 23:03.19 | e-anima | if i have to type every single package name byy hand |
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| 23:03.35 | cafuego | throws his arms in the air |
| 23:03.42 | e-anima | .) |
| 23:03.44 | e-anima | :) |
| 23:04.02 | e-anima | really hard to know that stuff for all packages out there. |
| 23:04.17 | e-anima | but thx common works. |
| 23:04.26 | cafuego | Agreed, but not really after some told you when you aksed :-P |
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| 23:04.32 | cafuego | s/aksed/asked/ |
| 23:04.34 | e-anima | ok failed again |
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| 23:04.59 | e-anima | the only time i can run an install is when i kill the whole system...so its blank |
| 23:05.35 | e-anima | it did not run the full process. dindt ask for password etc. |
| 23:05.49 | e-anima | is just want to kill everything and run i tagain like its a brand new debian |
| 23:06.29 | e-anima | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10861374/how-to-remove-mysql-completely-with-config-and-library-files |
| 23:06.31 | e-anima | i try this now |
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| 23:08.55 | e-anima | ok that is it: sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql\* |
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| 23:11.54 | riceandbeans | I can't hit my gateway |
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| 23:18.43 | farfromhere | Use a longer stick |
| 23:18.51 | cusco | lol |
| 23:18.55 | cusco | stack, tcp stack |
| 23:19.00 | farfromhere | xD |
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| 23:25.53 | justin____ | Hello friendly people. I am attempting to install debian stable to a subvolume on an existing btrfs partition on my laptop. The install DVD is not able to mount my partition. I suspect this is due to the older kernel (version 3.2), specifically the btrfs modules. I would like to alter the DVD to use a newer kernel from backports so that I can mount my filesystem. Mounting the fs from testing media w/ the newer kernel works like a cha |
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| 23:33.34 | jaami | can you tell me full cd command for .bash_profile |
| 23:33.58 | jaami | i dont know full path |
| 23:34.39 | arthurfiggis | jaami: i'm not sure if i understand the question, but if you're looking for .bash_profile in your own home directory, then ~/.bash_profile would be one full path :) |
| 23:34.40 | jaami | when i type cd /root i see only desktop folder |
| 23:35.10 | pirret | try ls -a |
| 23:35.18 | jaami | ok |
| 23:35.40 | pirret | you see it now? |
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| 23:36.10 | jaami | yes :) |
| 23:36.30 | jaami | plz tell me wich folder has bash_profile |
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| 23:37.08 | Nik05 | its in the root of the home dir |
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| 23:37.40 | Nik05 | jaami you have a Desktop in /root? |
| 23:38.12 | jaami | yes first i do cd /root then i do ls -a |
| 23:38.35 | jaami | i can many folders now but not sure which one is for the bash_profile |
| 23:38.57 | Nik05 | .bash_profile |
| 23:39.00 | jaami | there is no home folder after /root |
| 23:39.32 | justin____ | jaami look in /home/<user> |
| 23:39.33 | arthurfiggis | jaami: if that's the version of the file you're sure you want to edit, then the full path i guess would be /root/.bash_profile |
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| 23:39.57 | jaami | oh ok |
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| 23:40.08 | arthurfiggis | but as other people have alluded to, you probably want to edit the file in your own home directory :) |
| 23:40.25 | Nik05 | jaami dont run a desktop environment on root.. |
| 23:40.38 | justin____ | '/' is the system root, '/root' is the superuser home directory |
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| 23:43.01 | jaami | the /root/.bash_profile is blank. i cannot do difficult task so i think i will run desktop environment on root |
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| 23:43.37 | jaami | one simple thing is hell of problem for me |
| 23:44.20 | pirret | and the file you are looking for probably is .profile |
| 23:44.35 | pirret | at least on my debian wheezy installations by default only has that file |
| 23:44.38 | jaami | i want to change PATH for root |
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| 23:45.16 | jaami | for jaami i have changed PATH but for root path is same old |
| 23:45.34 | pirret | so edit /root/.profile |
| 23:45.38 | pirret | ? |
| 23:45.43 | jaami | yes |
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| 23:47.47 | jaami | allright , thanks God look like the .profile is the correct file where i can set path for root. but this file do not have line for PATH |
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| 23:48.01 | pirret | then add line for path? :) |
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| 23:48.29 | jaami | ok , i will get it from /etc/profile |
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| 23:55.43 | balM | Hello, I'm trying to set the correct time on my box but it doesnt work, I'm using dpkg-reconfigure tzdata to set the timezone. Any help would be appreciated, thanx. |
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| 23:57.23 | cafuego | You want to set the time? or the timezone? |
| 23:57.39 | balM | cafuego: time |
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| 23:57.55 | cafuego | Install ntpdate, run ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| 23:58.23 | cafuego | You may want to also install ntpd, so it'll sync off a timeserver in the background. |
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| 23:58.37 | jaami | is it correct way to set PATH? |
| 23:58.44 | cafuego | sorry, 'ntp' not 'ntpd' |
| 23:58.46 | jaami | PATH+="/usr/local/bin/node64/bin" |
| 23:58.50 | balM | cafuego: so i guess this is the only way ? |
| 23:58.51 | cafuego | jaami: no |
| 23:59.12 | cafuego | balM: You can set the time with the 'date' command too, but ntp is much easier and more accurate. |
| 23:59.25 | cafuego | jaami: PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin/node64/bin" |
| 23:59.42 | jaami | oh thanks cafuego |
| 23:59.55 | tecnico | balM you can use hwclock |
