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| 00:02.14 | Pegasus_RPG | er you know, remove the packages |
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| 00:49.02 | matiux | Hi, sorry for my english. I have a problem with touchpad in my new laptop. I use Debina Jessie 64. Where I try to run synaptiks, kde say: kdeinit could not launch usr/bin/synaptiks |
| 00:49.12 | matiux | *Debian |
| 00:49.18 | matiux | *When |
| 00:50.52 | matiux | Touchpad is not very reactive and the click work only over the button (left and right) but don't work when I touch the surface (In windows work...) |
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| 01:01.07 | atari314 | Hello, does anyone know how can I set my keyboard layout to us_intl on debian? |
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| 01:02.23 | Tom01 | Is it possible to set the DNS-server with a shell command? |
| 01:03.42 | smw | atari314, if you are using the gui. system settings -> region and language |
| 01:03.46 | abrotman | yes, edit /etc/resolv.conf |
| 01:04.11 | atari314 | smw, no sir, I'm on the console |
| 01:04.12 | matiux | someone can try to help me? |
| 01:04.21 | smw | atari314, no idea then :-) |
| 01:04.33 | smw | atari314, I have never needed to get it on a console |
| 01:05.03 | atari314 | smw, tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration"... will relog here to see if it fix it :) |
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| 01:05.40 | jeep | Tom01: echo dns-server-ip >> /etc/resolv.conf make sure to use two > just one overwrites |
| 01:07.27 | Tom01 | And how do I delete the already existing dns entry? |
| 01:09.38 | matiux | hey guys, have someone a laptop? |
| 01:10.14 | dvs | !ask |
| 01:10.14 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 01:10.53 | matiux | dvs, I have already ask |
| 01:11.02 | matiux | this: |
| 01:11.24 | Tom01 | perhaps I can use head -n2 |
| 01:11.28 | matiux | Hi, sorry for my english. I have a problem with touchpad in my new laptop. I use Debian Jessie 64. When I try to run synaptiks, kde say: kdeinit could not launch usr/bin/synaptiks |
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| 01:13.56 | Guest81310 | someone got something to say! Speak your peace now mofos!!!! |
| 01:13.57 | arthurfiggis | matiux: if it can't find it, it may not be installed :) i'm not sure what the package would be in testing, but in stable i see kde-config-touchpad |
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| 01:14.53 | jeep | Tom01: echo dns-server-ip > /etc/resolv.conf using only one > overwrites the existing file |
| 01:14.53 | matiux | arthurfiggis, I have already install kde-config-touchpad |
| 01:15.31 | Tom01 | jeep: thx |
| 01:15.39 | FreezingCold | Wow, Debian stable doesn't really update lol |
| 01:15.43 | FreezingCold | I didn't believe it at first |
| 01:15.47 | arthurfiggis | matiux: hmm...perhaps it's running and then crashing for some reason, you could try running it in a console to see if there are any error messages |
| 01:16.06 | jeep | Tom01: it is safe to append to the end of the file .. if first ip found doesnt work it trys the next |
| 01:16.11 | matiux | if I try to run synaptiks in kde: kdeinit could not launch usr/bin/synaptiks else if I try to run in console: segmentation error |
| 01:16.13 | FreezingCold | How often should I get around to ssh'ing to my parents computer to update it? Is every year good enough? |
| 01:16.25 | matiux | arthurfiggis, only segmentation error |
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| 01:17.26 | matiux | now I have try to install the pack xserver-xorg-input-multitouch |
| 01:17.41 | matiux | I try to restart X |
| 01:17.51 | arthurfiggis | matiux: hmm...well that's not very helpful :) i don't run testing myself so it could be anything if it's causing a segfault...if you have strace installed you could try running that against it, might give some hint as to why it's crashing |
| 01:18.21 | matiux | what is strace? |
| 01:18.25 | abrotman | a command |
| 01:18.43 | nezZario | debian wouldn't be as so stupid as to put something in like the 'network manager' ubuntu does, does it? |
| 01:18.53 | nezZario | it may be a gnome thing, i'm not totally sure where it came from |
| 01:19.13 | petn-randall | nezZario: You can either use ifupdown or network-manager, amongst other things. |
| 01:19.15 | jeep | nezZario: i use wicd |
| 01:19.22 | arthurfiggis | matiux: specifically it's a command that traces system calls, hence the s ;) |
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| 01:19.44 | abrotman | nezZario: you can use n-m if you want |
| 01:19.50 | abrotman | I do, works fine |
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| 01:20.19 | nezZario | where does network-manager come from? is it a part of gnome or it's own package? |
| 01:20.32 | matiux | arthurfiggis, if a run strace synaptiks, there are some row of log |
| 01:20.38 | matiux | I put this in nopaste |
| 01:20.40 | matiux | ok? |
| 01:20.54 | abrotman | nezZario: it's own package, kde has a front end also |
| 01:20.55 | arthurfiggis | matiux: that would be best yes...otherwise you might get killed by the bot :) |
| 01:21.21 | petn-randall | matiux: Debian's paste service is on http://paste.debian.net |
| 01:21.26 | nezZario | I don't know, I have ubuntu on here on a little 512MB Celeron box and I seriously disliked everything about it.. I use debian for 99% of servers at work so i thought ubuntu would be the logical choice for a home desktop |
| 01:21.44 | arthurfiggis | petn-randall: oh thanks, i wasn't aware of that :) only started running debian myself about a week ago |
| 01:22.01 | nezZario | but, i just got a little quad core 4GB of memory machine here at home (for free, no OS) .. thinking of giving debian a whirl for a desktop |
| 01:22.16 | petn-randall | arthurfiggis: Oh! Congrats! You'll get to learn so many interesting and new things. |
| 01:22.29 | nezZario | is debian+gnome pretty decent? |
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| 01:22.51 | nezZario | I just didn't like ubuntu didn't really ask what I wanted...it just installed tons of things and expected me to like them |
| 01:22.57 | petn-randall | nezZario: All DEs in Debian are pretty decent, it's a matter of taste. |
| 01:23.07 | nezZario | well not talking specifically about the WM/DE |
| 01:23.17 | arthurfiggis | petn-randall: well thanks! :) apart from having to compile a few packages from source everything's gone quite smoothly...the work on wheezy-backports is definitely appreciated as well, a recent version of the nvidia drivers was all that was keeping me with ubuntu |
| 01:23.21 | nezZario | just..if I install a base system and install x, wm, etc separately, am I going to have a good time? |
| 01:23.47 | nezZario | i haven't dealt with a linux desktop in years |
| 01:23.53 | petn-randall | nezZario: Care to be more specific what that means? |
| 01:23.59 | nezZario | like slackware was popular years |
| 01:24.17 | petn-randall | nezZario: I thought you've been running Ubuntu? And Debian at work? |
| 01:24.28 | nezZario | well i run debian on 30x -servers- |
| 01:24.48 | nezZario | ubuntu was just a play machine/gateway machine i have here at home, i rarely fire up gnome |
| 01:25.07 | petn-randall | nezZario: I see. |
| 01:25.25 | nezZario | fun fact, it took forever to make it where x did not start by default... stuff like that, I felt was ubuntu's "prepacked stuff"'s fault |
| 01:25.42 | petn-randall | nezZario: Debian is pretty decent for desktops, though you have to know by yourself what you want. Debian won't make any strong recommendations as Ubuntu does. |
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| 01:25.57 | arthurfiggis | (nvidia drivers being recent was a minor complaint anyway, but my pc doubles as the core of my mame cabinet so i do need decent video support :) ) |
| 01:25.58 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
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| 01:26.15 | matiux | how can i redirect output command in a file? |
| 01:26.25 | nezZario | Well that's preceisely what I wanted to hear petn-randall |
| 01:26.26 | petn-randall | nezZario: sysv-rc-conf → deactivate lightdm? |
| 01:26.29 | matiux | I have try strace synaptiks > file.txt |
| 01:26.34 | matiux | but don't work |
| 01:26.41 | nezZario | no I had to edit some config file iirc, it was a while back |
| 01:26.52 | nezZario | but yeah, i did want to confirm that ubuntu did seem to force me into some things |
| 01:26.54 | abrotman | matiux: man strace |
| 01:26.57 | nezZario | not that's inherietly a bad thing |
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| 01:27.13 | nezZario | but not what I want |
| 01:27.15 | arthurfiggis | nezZario: i moved pretty comfortably from using ubuntu to debian as a desktop os, but ubuntu does do some things for you that debian doesn't...so i guess it all depends on what you want :) but i'm fairly picky about desktop environments and wheezy (7.2) has been great |
| 01:27.37 | nezZario | arthurfiggis: got any examples of what it does that debian won't do off the bat? |
| 01:27.44 | petn-randall | nezZario: I personally hate the ubuntu update manager. It drags in all the packages you tediously removed after the last upgrade cycle. |
| 01:27.45 | nezZario | something like sound managment maybe? (what i'm worried most about) |
| 01:28.31 | nezZario | well, i guess the best thing to do is just go find a hard disk and give it a shot |
| 01:28.38 | ShapeShifter499 | why when I install debian my user is never added to sudo when the opposite is true for ubuntu? |
| 01:28.58 | nezZario | i didn't think it's ever suppose to be added to sudoers by default |
| 01:29.07 | ShapeShifter499 | why? |
| 01:29.21 | nezZario | security? how did you add the user? |
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| 01:29.38 | nezZario | see /etc/sudoers.d/ btw |
| 01:29.46 | arthurfiggis | ShapeShifter499: ubuntu has different policies about what a new default user should have i guess? :) i'm not sure, but it's been rather traditional for ubuntu to use sudo with the first user you created |
| 01:29.53 | nezZario | or /etc/sudeors |
| 01:29.55 | ShapeShifter499 | I haven't added anything yet on my newly installed system |
| 01:30.07 | nezZario | if you have a debian and ubuntu box, compare those two files/directories and there should be differences |
| 01:30.21 | ShapeShifter499 | I would go ahead and just "useradd sudo user" |
| 01:30.36 | nezZario | the hell kind of syntax is that? |
| 01:30.55 | nezZario | i'm not sure that's going to do what you intend it to, check out the man page, I could be terribly wrong though |
| 01:30.56 | ShapeShifter499 | sorry I mean "adduser user sudo" |
| 01:31.04 | nezZario | sudo is a newer-ish thing to me |
| 01:31.20 | matiux | arthurfiggis, the length of strace is very long for paste debian :/ |
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| 01:31.23 | matiux | Length of code is not allowed to exceed 150kB |
| 01:31.42 | nezZario | off to find a disk..thanks for the pointers oflks |
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| 01:31.55 | arthurfiggis | all i've ever had to do to get sudo working was edit /etc/sudoers, but i haven't tried it yet in debian :) i like having them separated |
| 01:31.58 | ShapeShifter499 | I assumed sudo was always safer when you need to run root only applications (like apt-get) than using su |
| 01:32.26 | petn-randall | ShapeShifter499: As a rule of thumb, it is. |
| 01:32.27 | arthurfiggis | matiux: hmm...well, in the case of strace the last lines are probably the most relevant ones, perhaps if you can get the last 20 or 30 |
| 01:32.49 | occupant | real admins use root. we'll do it live!@ |
| 01:33.24 | reavengrey | FK IT |
| 01:33.30 | matiux | I put only last row |
| 01:33.37 | matiux | here is the link http://paste.debian.net/64767/ |
| 01:33.52 | matiux | last rows |
| 01:34.17 | ShapeShifter499 | petn-randall, is there any reason not to use sudo? |
| 01:34.45 | arthurfiggis | matiux: hmm..well, keeping in mind i'm not an expert :) but a cursory look at that would seem to suggest that at some point along the line it's trying to find a python 2.7 module and it's associated files, but doesn't |
| 01:34.52 | petn-randall | ShapeShifter499: If you type in a string of several root commands, it's tedious to prepend them all with sudo |
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| 01:35.17 | ShapeShifter499 | I don't mind, I have done it forever in ubuntu |
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| 01:35.50 | nezZario | has a bad habit off sudo su - at the start of a session |
| 01:35.52 | petn-randall | ShapeShifter499: If you're an admin with a dozens of servers, you're happy not to use sudo everywhere :) |
| 01:36.07 | nezZario | petn-randall: tried ansible? |
| 01:36.36 | petn-randall | nezZario: Never heard of it. |
| 01:36.43 | nezZario | i'm waiting for the "oh, i just accidently rm -rf /'d THIRTY servers" jokes.. |
| 01:36.44 | zykotick9 | nezZario: sudo su is a bad habit ;) try "sudo -i" instead |
| 01:36.58 | nezZario | petn-randall: it's sort of like puppet/chef but 100x more lightweight |
| 01:36.58 | matiux | arthurfiggis, python2.7 is installed |
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| 01:37.41 | ShapeShifter499 | petn-randall, actually I have a built in instinct to automatically type sudo the moment I know it should be root |
| 01:38.02 | ShapeShifter499 | lol |
| 01:38.16 | petn-randall | nezZario: Luckily you have backups ;) |
| 01:38.28 | nezZario | zykotick9: : noted |
| 01:38.36 | nezZario | sorry i was slow on tha tone, lost my local connection |
| 01:38.38 | nezZario | i'm gone folks |
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| 01:38.56 | alusion | is it bad to shred a SSD ? |
| 01:39.00 | alusion | [using shred command] |
| 01:39.01 | abrotman | bad? |
| 01:39.04 | alusion | well idk |
| 01:39.07 | alusion | would it be...faster? |
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| 01:39.15 | abrotman | you mean to remove the contents? |
| 01:39.16 | arthurfiggis | alusion: yes :) ssd's have a limited number of write cycles don't they |
| 01:39.32 | alusion | Maybe |
| 01:39.36 | abrotman | alusion: unless you have something very sensitive, i'd just format it nad be done with it |
| 01:39.36 | alusion | I have a quality samsung 840 |
| 01:39.36 | nonconvergent | Having trouble playing a dvd. |
| 01:39.40 | Dev0n | hey, having trouble binding to a port, checking netstat, this port isn't used at all |
| 01:39.46 | alusion | kk |
| 01:39.54 | Dev0n | what might be the cause in such situations? |
| 01:39.59 | nezZario | i never understood TRIM... |
| 01:40.06 | nonconvergent | Totem says it's encrypted. |
| 01:40.07 | alusion | Is there an easier way of FDE than using LVM crypt-luks ? |
| 01:40.18 | arthurfiggis | alusion: i don't know too much about ssd's, but a lot of them are flash based...and unfortunately with those, the more you write to them with a tool that securely formats, the more write cycles you use up :( |
| 01:40.28 | ShapeShifter499 | petn-randall, alright I'll go ahead and add my user to sudo |
| 01:40.45 | arthurfiggis | alusion: that i'm not sure about, i set up lvm and crypt-luks when i installed wheezy and it was pretty straight forward though! |
| 01:41.03 | petn-randall | nonconvergent: You need libdvdcss |
| 01:41.21 | nonconvergent | Ugh, and now it won't open the tray. |
| 01:42.03 | nonconvergent | Do you know what package that is because I can't find it. |
| 01:42.12 | petn-randall | nonconvergent: http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html |
| 01:42.13 | nonconvergent | Package libdvdcss is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 01:42.28 | petn-randall | nonconvergent: It's not in Debian for licence reasons, unfortunately. |
| 01:42.29 | nonconvergent | It's not a package. |
| 01:42.30 | alusion | I want to dual boot debian and windows 7 on the same SSD |
| 01:42.38 | alusion | should I install debian / grub first before windows? |
| 01:42.39 | arthurfiggis | matiux: i was searching around on google, all i could find that resembled something similar to your problem was a thread about the segfault, but no solution mentioned :( it may be a bug with the version of synaptiks in testing, if it's installed it shouldn't be having trouble finding it |
| 01:42.43 | abrotman | dpkg: tell nonconvergent about libdvdcss |
| 01:42.54 | nonconvergent | How about opening the tray? |
| 01:43.11 | arthurfiggis | nonconvergent: eject /dev/whicheveritis :) |
| 01:43.25 | arthurfiggis | (or possibly just eject) |
| 01:43.38 | nonconvergent | Got it. |
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| 01:45.46 | petn-randall | alusion: Install Windows first, as it will overwrite your bootloader. |
| 01:46.11 | arthurfiggis | alusion: assuming things still work the way i remember, you'd want to install debian first and then windows...windows is going to overwrite the boot sector every time it updates practically, but if debian is installed first you can always restore grub with a rescue cd :) |
| 01:46.17 | petn-randall | alusion: If you install Windows last, you'd have the extra step of booting a Linux live image and fixing that. |
| 01:46.40 | petn-randall | arthurfiggis: That doesn't make sense. |
| 01:46.42 | dvs | arthurfiggis: nah, you want to install Windows first. |
| 01:46.52 | arthurfiggis | petn-randall: yes, i think i got that entirely backwards |
| 01:46.56 | alusion | isn't it like |
| 01:47.00 | alusion | sudo update-grub |
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| 01:48.04 | petn-randall | alusion: No, when the bootloader is bust, you have to boot a live image, chroot into your system, bind mount /dev, /proc and /sys, and then 'grub-install /dev/sda' |
| 01:48.16 | petn-randall | alusion: Which kind of is a hassle. |
| 01:49.20 | petn-randall | alusion: Only other caveat: If your system has UEFI, make sure to install both systems with the same BIOS compatibility settings. Otherwise you'll have to switch in the BIOS for it to work. :( |
| 01:50.08 | arthurfiggis | petn-randall: i found that out much too late after buying the most recent pc i got :( when i installed debian i wound up just getting rid of windows 8 altogether...i was only keeping it for games and i have a console for that now |
| 01:50.48 | petn-randall | arthurfiggis: I see. I got win8 for gaming on my laptop. Was a hack to get wheezy running with EUFI ... |
| 01:51.08 | petn-randall | arthurfiggis: Back then it wasn't released and didn't have the grub patches yet. |
| 01:51.48 | arthurfiggis | petn-randall: ahh, so it is possible to get them both booting along-side each other now? :) i figured it would be so much fuss that i didn't bother...there are some windows games i miss enough to want to try dual-booting |
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| 01:52.23 | arthurfiggis | it seems like all uefi has really done is make booting something other than windows flaky for a few releases of most distro's :( |
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| 01:54.26 | arthurfiggis | wonders how Microsoft still manages to find another toe to shoot themselves in every quarter, but that's another story :) |
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| 01:56.51 | peterrooney | arthurfiggis: that is the intended outcome. |
| 01:57.00 | petn-randall | arthurfiggis: Yeah, works fine now. Except for the "secure boot" feature. |
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| 01:58.04 | petn-randall | wonders who's idea it was to stick half an OS is the firmware. |
| 01:58.14 | petn-randall | s/is/into/ |
| 01:59.59 | arthurfiggis | petn-randall: i moved from using windows to ubuntu, then debian precisely because of the introduction of said "features" over the years :) the first blow i think was when i had to set up a lab of windows xp pro pc's, and all 100 of them failed...after two weeks...because the volume key we were given to activate with didn't actually work |
| 02:00.31 | arthurfiggis | then windows 7 and 8 came out, and uefi/secure-boot's "issues" came along with it...much happier using debian now, at least it doesn't try to tell me how to use my pc :) |
| 02:00.50 | petn-randall | arthurfiggis: Or couldn't activate because of lack of internet connection. |
| 02:01.15 | petn-randall | arthurfiggis: I notice this is drifting off, we can continue this discussion on #debian-offtopic. |
| 02:01.37 | arthurfiggis | petn-randall: oh yes, sorry about that! |
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| 02:06.14 | matiux | have someone a laptop? |
| 02:06.42 | dvs | matiux: ask your real question |
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| 02:07.50 | matiux | dvs, I have ask 2 time, but ok: I have a problem with touchpad in my new laptop. I use Debian Jessie 64. When I try to run synaptiks, kde say: kdeinit could not launch usr/bin/synaptiks |
| 02:08.32 | matiux | if I run synaptik from console: segmentation error |
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| 02:09.44 | dvs | There is no such package as "synaptik" |
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| 02:10.45 | matiux | synaptiks |
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| 02:11.01 | matiux | is a kde graphic tool for handle touchpad |
| 02:11.21 | matiux | but seem ther is a bug: |
| 02:11.23 | dvs | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=synaptiks&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
| 02:11.37 | matiux | http://bugs.debian.org/726371 |
| 02:11.44 | jiohdi | nvidia has upgraded from nvidia 304 to 319 and borked my system, how do I down grade? |
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| 02:12.53 | matiux | dvs, is in kde-config-touchpad |
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| 02:14.46 | matiux | I need to try setting the touchpad becaude don't work very wel... is not very reactive and the click work only over the button (left and right) but don't work when I touch the surface |
| 02:14.55 | matiux | *because |
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| 02:15.43 | arthurfiggis | matiux: hmm..well it looks like they're aware of the bug at least, in testing i'd imagine things like that crop up from time to time and get fixed relatively quickly :) one of the perils of using the latest and greatest sometimes |
| 02:17.59 | ShapeShifter499 | I should be able to preform "apt-get purge gnome*" if I just want a headless box right? |
| 02:18.37 | dvs | !remove gnome |
| 02:18.37 | matiux | :( arthurfiggis the sensitivity of the mouse is very bad |
| 02:18.37 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
| 02:18.50 | dvs | 2? |
| 02:19.41 | abrotman | a bit old eh :) |
| 02:19.47 | dvs | yup |
| 02:19.54 | abrotman | ShapeShifter499: remove libx11 or something like that |
| 02:19.59 | dvs | not even dpkg likes Gnome 3 |
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| 02:21.53 | arthurfiggis | matiux: sorry, i don't know what could be done there...i've only been running debian a short time and not on a laptop :( but there are plenty of people here using -testing i'm sure, especially since it's been getting regular security updates for a while now...so if you stick around someone will have seen it! |
| 02:22.22 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, that would remove x11 right? |
| 02:22.22 | arthurfiggis | and at worst, it'll likely be fixed in the next revision of the package :) |
| 02:22.49 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, I still want to remote a gui when I need or want over ssh |
| 02:23.07 | ShapeShifter499 | I done this before in ubuntu btw |
| 02:24.04 | abrotman | ShapeShifter499: so what are you trying to remove? |
| 02:24.39 | matiux | I hope arthurfiggis |
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| 02:26.14 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, I don't need or want a full blown desktop, I just want a headless box I can run some server stuff on and have the ability to remote x11 applications |
| 02:26.35 | dvs | matiux: You can add your report to that bug. |
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| 02:26.41 | arthurfiggis | matiux: oh, i'd imagine so...the thread you mentioned earlier seems to indicate that it's been fixed in ubuntu, and since a lot of people using debian also use laptops, there's a great incentive to get glaring issues like that fixed quickly ;) |
| 02:27.14 | arthurfiggis | ^^^ and it's always good to contribute to the existing bug report as dvs says, the more attention drawn to it the better |
| 02:27.28 | arthurfiggis | (well...attention and useful information, ideally :) ) |
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| 02:28.15 | matiux | arthurfiggis, I have read, but the link is broken |
| 02:28.38 | matiux | dvs, yes, but I don't have nothing of new to say |
| 02:28.52 | matiux | mmmm sorry for my english |
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| 02:29.16 | abrotman | ShapeShifter499: you didn't answer the questoin |
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| 02:29.50 | javs1 | Hola |
| 02:30.00 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, ah sorry, I'm trying to remove gnome so I just have the main terminal, no gui |
| 02:31.01 | arthurfiggis | matiux: oh if you don't have anything technical to add to it, even just chiming in and saying that you also experience that problem, plus your architecture, the relevant versions of what you're using...that's generally good too :) |
| 02:31.27 | arthurfiggis | the only bug reports i've found that aren't very helpful are the one line "pls fix this" type that don't say much of anything |
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| 02:32.12 | Penix | helps if you add "kthx bai!" |
| 02:32.18 | matiux | uhm... ok. I never did a report a bug |
| 02:32.46 | matiux | is ther some guidelines? |
| 02:33.26 | Penix | matiux: http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 02:35.57 | abrotman | ShapeShifter499: you could remove libx11, then put bakc what you want |
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| 02:39.59 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, ok |
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| 02:45.37 | matiux | good night (in italy it's very late) |
| 02:47.16 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, it wants me to enter my "cdrom" but I installed using a usb |
| 02:47.23 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, *usb drive |
| 02:47.52 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ShapeShifter499 about wheezy sources.list |
| 02:47.56 | arthurfiggis | matiux: it must be by now :) hopefully that problem will be fixed soon! |
| 02:48.00 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, "Media change: please insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.2.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20131012-12:56'in the drive '/media/cdrom/' and press enter" |
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| 02:48.56 | zykotick9 | ShapeShifter499: fyi, if you comment out the CD line(s) in your sources.list it'll download everything, and not ask for the cd anymore |
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| 02:49.54 | abrotman | ShapeShifter499: see what the bot told you |
| 02:50.38 | ShapeShifter499 | zykotick9, I was thinking that, I wasn't sure if I was allowed to remove those lines |
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| 02:52.25 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, thanks |
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| 02:53.35 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, zykotick9 everything is working smoothly now :D |
| 02:54.02 | Lorcatar | I am trying to play moria using the package from the debian repo. I read the manual but I cannot use hjkl to move around (I do not have a numpad on this pc) Has anyone here found a workaround? |
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| 02:54.39 | ShapeShifter499 | Lorcatar, ever tried wasd? |
| 02:55.04 | ShapeShifter499 | Lorcatar, some games use that for movement |
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| 02:56.07 | Lorcatar | ShapeShifter499 I tried all the keys. but sadly it requires numpad I couldn't find a solution using duckduckgo |
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| 02:57.13 | ShapeShifter499 | :/ |
| 02:59.38 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, is it possible to have gnome installed but have it not display locally? |
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| 03:00.37 | abrotman | yes ... |
| 03:00.44 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ShapeShifter499 about nodm |
| 03:00.50 | ShapeShifter499 | I'd like to just start gnome when I want and remote over ssh |
| 03:00.56 | abrotman | see the bot |
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| 03:02.22 | MarcellaNewb | hi guys, newb question |
| 03:02.47 | MarcellaNewb | i do not have any GUI installed on my Wheezy |
| 03:02.54 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, ah ok |
| 03:02.58 | ShapeShifter499 | abrotman, thanks |
| 03:03.03 | abrotman | MarcellaNewb: so isntall one |
| 03:03.19 | MarcellaNewb | And when running commands which would return a bucket-load of reply, how do i scroll back up? |
| 03:03.33 | buu | MarcellaNewb: shift-pgup |
| 03:03.35 | MarcellaNewb | i prefer not to because i'm using this as a webserver |
| 03:03.45 | buu | MarcellaNewb: screen |
| 03:03.50 | MarcellaNewb | OMG, its that simple!? |
| 03:03.56 | MarcellaNewb | i feel so dumb |
| 03:04.02 | MarcellaNewb | but thanks! =) |
| 03:04.12 | abrotman | oh |
| 03:04.18 | buu | MarcellaNewb: Are you using an actual monitor connected to it? |
| 03:04.19 | abrotman | MarcellaNewb: you could have googled that? |
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| 03:04.36 | MarcellaNewb | lets say if i wanna copy a line from there? |
| 03:04.41 | buu | MarcellaNewb: screen.. |
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| 03:04.51 | buu | MarcellaNewb: Or just ssh into it from a machine with a GUI... |
| 03:05.03 | MarcellaNewb | abrotman: i'm new to linux adn am doing my best, i do not even know what to google for |
| 03:05.12 | buu | MarcellaNewb: You have another computer right? |
| 03:05.20 | MarcellaNewb | abrotman: thanks, with peeps like you people will surely turn to linux |
| 03:05.33 | abrotman | MarcellaNewb: "page up linux terminal" |
| 03:05.34 | Penix | "linux scroll in terminal". first result |
| 03:05.37 | abrotman | or that |
| 03:05.40 | MarcellaNewb | buu: for now since i am setting up am using screen but i have already installed ssh |
| 03:06.03 | buu | MarcellaNewb: Screen can copy and paste using ctrl-a [ and ] |
| 03:06.15 | MarcellaNewb | PenixL didn't even know it was called scrolled up since its not exactly a term window |
| 03:06.17 | buu | MarcellaNewb: But your life will be happier by using a second computer with an xterm to ssh into it |
| 03:06.57 | MarcellaNewb | buu: thanks fer the tip, then i guess i'll quickly mount it back into the rack and just putty to it |
| 03:07.04 | buu | =] |
| 03:07.09 | buu | Thats what its designed for! |
| 03:07.36 | MarcellaNewb | buu: haha, well i thought since i was setting it up might as well do it there |
| 03:07.45 | buu | MarcellaNewb: I just get network autoconnecting and sshd running then do it all via ssh |
| 03:07.46 | MarcellaNewb | thanks all, even Abrotman |
| 03:08.05 | MarcellaNewb | without you, we wouldn't know there's actually nice people like buu |
| 03:09.34 | Penix | MarcellaNewb: he's only trying to save you time and effort. googling's probably easier than the trouble of IRC |
| 03:09.36 | MarcellaNewb | buu: am just wondering, is there a switch or a way to export it all into a log file? |
| 03:09.47 | buu | MarcellaNewb: All of what? |
| 03:10.06 | MarcellaNewb | buu: the output lets say from grep or locate |
| 03:10.23 | buu | MarcellaNewb: bash supports redirecting the output to a file: grep foo bar > myresults |
| 03:10.27 | MarcellaNewb | is there like a standard universal -swtiches in the linux world? |
| 03:10.41 | buu | MarcellaNewb: You might try: dmesg | less |
| 03:10.48 | buu | (or | more if less isn't installed) |
| 03:10.53 | MarcellaNewb | Penix: we don't come here for fun, its coz we're out of idea what to google, or atleast that is true for me |
| 03:11.17 | MarcellaNewb | buu: thanks, will try that =) |
| 03:13.13 | buu | MarcellaNewb: This might help: http://www.hypexr.org/bash_tutorial.php#tips |
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| 03:14.54 | buu | MarcellaNewb: This seems even better: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Beginners/BashScripting |
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| 03:15.52 | nell | How do I test and ressurect a hard drive that appears dead |
| 03:16.01 | nell | but I suspect to be repairable |
| 03:16.03 | abrotman | ask ##hardware |
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| 03:16.05 | nell | I am |
| 03:16.12 | abrotman | this isn't ##hardware |
| 03:16.28 | nell | Does debian have any packages or live boot environments? |
| 03:16.48 | abrotman | let me google that for you |
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| 03:44.53 | linux-fox | i am going to study shell script ,plaese intro a book about shell script. |
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| 03:46.20 | abrotman | linux-fox: try #bash |
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| 03:46.36 | zykotick9 | linux-fox: read the topic of the #bash channel... good stuff in those links! |
| 03:47.07 | linux-fox | ok, thanks |
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| 03:50.49 | MarcellaNewb | buu: once again, thx |
| 03:51.26 | zenlunatic | linux-fox: i have an extra korn shell book you can have |
| 03:51.50 | linux-fox | zenlunatic: what book? |
| 03:52.01 | zenlunatic | ugh your gonna make me go check |
| 03:52.45 | zenlunatic | the new kornshell by korn and bolsky |
| 03:52.59 | zenlunatic | i accidently bought two |
| 03:53.25 | abrotman | please take it to msg |
| 03:54.04 | elGr33k0 | can i ask something? |
| 03:54.33 | zenlunatic | you are afforded one question |
| 03:54.48 | zenlunatic | and one mean response by abrotman |
| 03:55.59 | abrotman | zenlunatic: knock it off |
| 03:56.10 | zenlunatic | goes |
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| 04:02.33 | buu | MarcellaNewb: No problem, good luck. |
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| 04:06.37 | RJ45 | bit of a problem here, I can't remove libavutil-extra-51 'cos it depends on libavcodec-extra-53, but that itself can't be removed 'cos it depends on libavutil-extra-51! |
| 04:06.45 | RJ45 | I can't remove either of 'em! X_X |
| 04:06.54 | RJ45 | the both depend on each-other! |
| 04:07.37 | RJ45 | what do I do? |
| 04:08.24 | abrotman | why do you need them removed? |
| 04:08.48 | RJ45 | abrotman: it's a complicated story, I'd rather not go into it, sorry. |
| 04:09.59 | RJ45 | but I need 'em removed ASAP, that's for sure. |
| 04:10.33 | RJ45 | they also have-to be re-installable later too. |
| 04:11.06 | RJ45 | I need to remove them, do some stuff, then re-install them |
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| 04:12.29 | RJ45 | abrotman: long story short, I messed-up a little, gotta downgrade some stuff, of-which is tied into a myriad of insane dependencies. |
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| 04:14.27 | RJ45 | I've just spent 10 minutes manually installing stuff, now all I'm stuck on it libavcodec-extra-53, and libavutil-extra-31, as they both paradoxically depend on each-other x_x |
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| 04:14.39 | RJ45 | please help ASAP peops! x_x |
| 04:15.22 | RJ45 | libavutil-extra-51* |
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| 04:17.35 | abrotman | RJ45: try aptitude ? |
| 04:17.48 | RJ45 | abrotman: what do I do though? |
| 04:18.01 | RJ45 | abrotman: I has the GUI aptitude BTW |
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| 04:19.02 | RJ45 | maybe it'll just magically work in aptitude, lemme try... |
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| 04:21.24 | RJ45 | aw crap, in-order to remove them, it wants to install libavcodec53, libavutil51, and upgrade libavformat53, I REALLY don't want that! X_X |
| 04:22.00 | RJ45 | how do I make aptitude remove them, without installing or upgrading anything? |
| 04:22.46 | RJ45 | this is dependency hell. |
| 04:23.43 | abrotman | so upgrade .. |
| 04:24.20 | RJ45 | abrotman: but I REALLY do not want to! |
| 04:24.20 | RJ45 | I just want those 2 things removed! |
| 04:24.21 | RJ45 | nothing else. |
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| 04:24.35 | abrotman | then remove them |
| 04:24.49 | RJ45 | but I can't!, aptitude wants to be a bitch! |
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| 04:24.58 | dudz | so, i'm runing debian in a vm, how do i capture the post messages, the filesystem is being mounted read only, i want to see those messages , they flash past to fast to read, can't initiate a 'pause' with this vsphere software |
| 04:25.13 | ska | Does anyone have instructions on installing d7 on macpro 2008? |
| 04:25.20 | RJ45 | in-order to remove them, aptitude is forcing me to install 2 other things, and upgrade something, I DO NOT WANT THAT! |
| 04:26.24 | abrotman | RJ45: you can hit 'n' and see what the next option is |
| 04:26.56 | RJ45 | abrotman: I'm using GUI aptitude |
| 04:26.57 | RJ45 | what would 'n' do? |
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| 04:27.35 | abrotman | show you the next option ... |
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| 04:31.08 | RJ45 | aw screw this, I'm just gonna wipe the hard drive, completely re-install the OS, and then re-install all my 1000+ packages!, AAARRGH!!, scru u 'apt'!, if u (apt) wasn't the only half-decent installation method out there, I would tell ya where to shove it! >:( |
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| 05:02.18 | ska | How can I install debian7 on my macpro? Is it easy to do? |
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| 05:03.40 | jeep | ska i used debian on a old ppc imac 3 it was nice |
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| 05:25.45 | FreezingCold | Anyone here run Debian on an MK808? |
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| 05:34.03 | dizzylizzy | jeep, mac pro would be intel though I think, completely different ball of wax. I use PowerPC debian on my iBook G4 and it's lovely, wheezy + xfce is wonderful |
| 05:34.45 | JordanJ2 | iBook?! that's old |
| 05:34.54 | dizzylizzy | speaking of which... quick Q, why might my setting of right-click to keycode 133 (by echoing 133 into, say, /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/mouse_button3_keycode) not work? |
| 05:34.59 | dizzylizzy | yaw it's like from 2004 I think |
| 05:35.07 | dizzylizzy | it's really really old and crappy, I had it running lenny back in the day |
| 05:35.16 | JordanJ2 | lenny? |
| 05:35.18 | dizzylizzy | but hey, it's the only laptop I have, so I make do and run debian |
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| 05:35.23 | dizzylizzy | yes. Debian 5.0 |
| 05:35.30 | JordanJ2 | Ah |
| 05:35.30 | dizzylizzy | that was when Lenny was testing |
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| 05:35.41 | dizzylizzy | gosh darn i've been using debian too long, I really should try another distro |
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| 05:36.02 | JordanJ2 | I have debian on my server |
| 05:36.16 | dizzylizzy | for some reason, even though I never set this as such, middle and right-click are being bound to F10 and F11 respectively, and I can't seem to set them anywhere else. |
| 05:36.32 | dizzylizzy | I have debian on my server too |
| 05:36.42 | dizzylizzy | desktop, laptop, vps :-/ I don't really see why I'd use anything else |
| 05:37.18 | pirret | windows on workstations, debian on servers |
| 05:37.21 | pirret | right way to do it ;) |
| 05:37.25 | JordanJ2 | I would use Debian as a host os but it wo't support my wireless card |
| 05:37.39 | JordanJ2 | Eww Windows |
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| 05:39.09 | dizzylizzy | JordanJ2, yeah, I unfortunately have to use non-free firmware on my iBook G4 :( makes me sad |
| 05:39.35 | JordanJ2 | Ah |
| 05:39.45 | JordanJ2 | Mine didn't work period |
| 05:40.22 | JordanJ2 | Made me sad |
| 05:40.24 | dizzylizzy | what model was it? |
| 05:40.31 | dizzylizzy | you've probably sought help and failed, nevermind |
| 05:40.38 | dizzylizzy | well sorry to hear it |
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| 05:40.48 | JordanJ2 | HP Probook 2000 240CA |
| 05:41.12 | JordanJ2 | Realtek wireless card |
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| 05:42.04 | JordanJ2 | dizzylizzy, I'm looking for something that looks like OSX though |
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| 05:44.43 | dizzylizzy | ugh, realtek |
| 05:45.11 | dizzylizzy | I have a wired realtek card in my computer and every kernel update debian complains that I *might* need non-free firmware for it to work |
| 05:45.36 | dizzylizzy | Apparently it's just passing on a message the kernel is sending it. I mis-read the message though and it turns out I don't need the non-free firmware for it at all! Pain in the bottom. |
| 05:46.51 | mcurran | yeah, they suck at building too |
| 05:47.06 | dizzylizzy | JordanJ2, you can make XFCE look like OS X pretty closely |
| 05:47.08 | dizzylizzy | check out Elementary OS |
| 05:47.32 | JordanJ2 | i'm actally trying Elementary at the moment |
| 05:47.51 | mcurran | why not try hackintosh system? |
| 05:48.09 | JordanJ2 | Ah yeah isn't that illegal? |
| 05:48.22 | mcurran | I always did, with all my intel boards, not amd though, too much hacking to bother |
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| 05:48.36 | JordanJ2 | Ah eah i'm running intel |
| 05:48.53 | JordanJ2 | Just don't know where to start |
| 05:48.58 | mcurran | yeah, the trick is to use a vm to create the installer for the newer releases, like Mountain Lion or Mavericks |
| 05:49.21 | JordanJ2 | Hmm |
| 05:49.47 | mcurran | I had snow leopard running fine as a guest os in virtualbox |
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| 05:50.08 | JordanJ2 | Seriously? |
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| 05:51.01 | wolfgang__ | Does debian live have a partiotiong tool for installing? |
| 05:51.11 | JordanJ2 | I believe so |
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| 05:51.32 | wolfgang__ | When I launched debian live it said it failed to do something with gnome 3? |
| 05:51.45 | wolfgang__ | But it still worked |
| 05:52.30 | mcurran | then u use the vm to create a usb installer for mavericks, there's plenty online, check out osx86 and hackintosh, well google is your friend |
| 05:52.56 | mcurran | that's pretty vauge |
| 05:53.27 | wolfgang__ | Well, If debian has a partitioner Im going to install it. |
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| 05:56.03 | nas | so i go to apt-get update and get the A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. |
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| 05:56.09 | nas | no_pubkey error |
| 05:56.19 | nas | with a key after that |
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| 05:56.50 | nas | so i added it with gpg commands |
| 05:57.03 | nas | im just curious how this works |
| 05:57.12 | nas | how do i know the key i just added is safe? |
| 05:57.35 | nas | where did that key come from that just got printed out from apt-get update |
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| 05:59.31 | nbelic | Is Debian known to be extreamly slow as a web server? On my development serve the pages take 7s to load, on production server its almost instant |
| 05:59.54 | nbelic | It seems like its jst not configured well |
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| 06:01.36 | nas | are these keys listed somewhere online |
| 06:01.57 | nas | idk |
| 06:02.36 | nas | why cant it just check a database of keys somewhere and if its on the list its good |
| 06:03.11 | nas | otherwise i really dont see the point |
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| 06:03.26 | nas | could have said anything i would have just added it |
| 06:03.32 | nas | and im sure most people do |
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| 06:09.06 | jeep | nbelic: could be many different reasons for that |
| 06:10.35 | nbelic | Ill download a different linux and deploy my project to it to see if theres any difference |
| 06:11.14 | jeep | nbelic: is hardware the same ? |
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| 06:13.53 | nbelic | probablly not, they have share hosting system so not sure what the hardware would be |
| 06:14.49 | nbelic | http://www.pcworld.com/article/247845/debian_linux_named_most_popular_distro_for_web_servers.html lol |
| 06:15.12 | nbelic | well that doesnt help my case |
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| 06:18.23 | dizzylizzy | I don't really understand why people use the giant debian live iso |
| 06:18.39 | dizzylizzy | it seems surprisingly popular, I guess because that's what people are used to with other distros like ubuntu |
| 06:18.49 | dizzylizzy | I don't think I've ever used anything but the net installer |
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| 06:23.40 | aloiece | hello debian users, i come from ubuntu and am looking to switch to its mother. however, I am a musician, requiring lowlatency ability. is there stable strong support for this on debian? |
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| 06:28.54 | blargo_ | anyone here know how to set up prosody? |
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| 06:30.34 | Penix | aloiece: probably as much as ubuntu (haven't used it in years). jack, rt linux kernel etc. |
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| 06:31.39 | Penix | aloiece: unless ubuntu has some fancy graphical tools for handling rt priorities and things like that, it should be basically the same |
| 06:33.04 | Penix | blargo_: the debian wiki seems to |
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| 06:41.55 | aloiece | penix: thanks |
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| 06:51.15 | blargo_ | is there a multiplayer low resoucre chess game in debian? |
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| 06:54.07 | tomatosalad | Local or Network? |
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| 07:04.55 | blargo_ | does anyone know if google voice has an API accessable? |
| 07:07.49 | mcurran | I used to flood a person's phone w/ gtalk and/or gvoice hosted on google code somewhere, I used a simple bash script. :P |
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| 07:08.07 | mcurran | what's an API? |
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| 07:09.10 | well_laid_lawn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface |
| 07:10.21 | blargo_ | mcurran: lol howd u do that |
| 07:10.31 | blargo_ | i want to make a text service |
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| 07:10.41 | blargo_ | for local emergency info etc |
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| 07:10.56 | blargo_ | or jobs |
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| 07:19.06 | RedRYder | I cannot get the user account section to accept my password to update the name, email etc. section. Why?? |
| 07:19.23 | RedRYder | How do I fix it? |
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| 07:22.23 | RedRYder | Also is there a way to make debian auto boot to the only user? |
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| 07:24.22 | mcurran | I don't have the scripts any more, I think I've looked into it since and couldn't get the code running properly last time. I'll see if I can find it again. |
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| 07:29.13 | FreezingCold | should I install all these packages? |
| 07:29.14 | FreezingCold | mali400-dev_2.1-13_armhf.deb |
| 07:29.14 | FreezingCold | mali400_2.1-13_armhf.deb |
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| 07:29.24 | FreezingCold | that's hardly flood... |
| 07:29.26 | FreezingCold | but whatever |
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| 07:30.48 | mcurran | there used to be a package for ubuntu for auto login, I'm sure you can find one for debian probably, or maybe not, since the this big window manager mess started |
| 07:31.51 | RedRYder | Thanks. I'll look. |
| 07:33.03 | mcurran | blargo, I used pygooglevoice, and I can't get that to login right now w/ my account. I think this was the same issue I couldn't get working last time I wanted to kill off someone's phone for a bit. |
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| 07:56.36 | nabblet | hi, i think the hardware clock of my computer is working incorrectly. yesterday i was late my several minutes, today i am ahead one minute. is ntp or something like that standard installed in debian that interferes with my time? |
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| 07:57.39 | nabblet | i am asking, because i remember trying to fix a similar problem in the past and making things worse than before (since too many programs tried to fix them time and they didn't play well with each other) |
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| 07:58.55 | james41382 | nabblet: Do you use Gnome? |
| 07:59.12 | nabblet | james41382: yes |
| 07:59.20 | matiux | hi, have someone a laptop? I have problems with touchpad |
| 07:59.33 | james41382 | nabblet: Click on the clock at the top. There is an option there to turn ntp on/off. |
| 07:59.55 | james41382 | nabblet: In data and time settings. |
| 08:00.02 | james41382 | s/data/date/g |
| 08:00.34 | nabblet | james41382: ah i see it - network time |
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| 08:01.22 | nabblet | james41382: do you know if that change will have effect systemwide? |
| 08:02.33 | james41382 | nabblet: On my system I have to enter my password to gain privileges to alter those settings indicating to me that it probably affects the whole system. This is just my intuition though. I'm sure you could google it. |
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| 08:03.26 | nabblet | james41382: yep. same for me. hm, don't see anything ntp like in "ps -A" |
| 08:03.53 | james41382 | nabblet: Let me see what I can turn up. I'm taking a homework break for a few minutes here. =] |
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| 08:06.00 | james41382 | nabblet: apt-cache policy ntp -> shows not installed on my system. |
| 08:06.09 | nabblet | james41382: thanks for your efforts :) i have to check the cmos battery too. maybe it's the hwclock that causes trouble |
| 08:06.38 | james41382 | nabblet: Could it be another package that also utilizes the same protocol, but not necessarily the ntp package. |
| 08:06.47 | james41382 | nabblet: Sorry I couldn't be more help! =/ |
| 08:07.07 | nabblet | james41382: np |
| 08:07.42 | nabblet | i'll just observe if my hwclock/cmos battery is OK and the go on on the software side |
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| 08:09.00 | nabblet | james41382: i made the experience, that manually interfering with your date settings is a bad idea if you have ntp running. Because: ntp tries to adjust your date in a "soft" way (slightlyaccelerating/slwoing down your software clock so that you don't have anormalities in your logs) |
| 08:09.00 | james41382 | nabblet: Read this: https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime |
| 08:09.14 | nabblet | if you then manually change the time, ntp might get confused |
| 08:09.47 | nabblet | and starts to mess your time up even more |
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| 08:10.13 | james41382 | nabblet: I always assumed that the ntp daemon accessed an online server and then simply set the time to whatever time it retrieved from that server. |
| 08:10.21 | nabblet | james41382: already did that. this ressource is better (imho) http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/system-administrator/ch-sysadmin-time.html |
| 08:10.58 | nabblet | james41382: no, it does not (well it does, but it does more too) |
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| 08:11.17 | nabblet | james41382: all this time-stuff is more tricky than you might think :P |
| 08:11.37 | james41382 | nabblet: Apparently.. =] |
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| 08:12.41 | nabblet | james41382: you can read the first few paragraphs of my link, it gives a little bit more insight |
| 08:13.05 | nabblet | james41382: i think there is even a way to see how much your time is off (according to ntp) and how it is going to correct it |
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| 08:15.23 | nabblet | heh - i thought i was going to change back to fluxbox, but since gnome can have alt+left mouse of move window and alt-right mouse for resize i think i'm gonna stay with gnome |
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| 08:16.44 | james41382 | nabblet: Just reading a bit and realized that even if you enable Network Time from the Gnome time and data applet it doesn't stay. |
| 08:17.01 | james41382 | nabblet: Thinking perhaps you have to have ntp package installed in order to use the applet. |
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| 08:17.41 | james41382 | nabblet: Watch this video then try it for yourself... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woEDQSqKhdM |
| 08:17.49 | nabblet | james41382: what do you mean by "it does not stay"? |
| 08:18.16 | james41382 | nabblet: If you enable it, close the applet and then open it again it is not enabled anymore. lol. |
| 08:18.25 | nabblet | james41382: currently i'm on a 64kbps internet connection - i ain't going to watch no video :P |
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| 08:18.48 | nabblet | james41382: you're right |
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| 08:19.23 | james41382 | nabblet: So obviously it depends on something. Thinking it's probably the ntp package. |
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| 08:20.30 | nabblet | james41382: hm, that setting should be grayed out if the underlying service is not available |
| 08:20.32 | james41382 | nabblet: If you read here -> http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gnome-system-tools you'll see at the bottom that ntp is suggested |
| 08:21.00 | james41382 | nabblet: So yes that aspect of the gnome time and date needs ntp to work. |
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| 08:21.35 | nabblet | james41382: funny thing is - my time is correct now |
| 08:21.38 | nabblet | Oo |
| 08:22.03 | nabblet | james41382: is is getting waaaaay to freaky... again :P |
| 08:22.03 | james41382 | nabblet: So you believe that it set the time? |
| 08:22.14 | nabblet | i think i'll observer a bit more |
| 08:22.24 | nabblet | before making the same mistake again |
| 08:22.48 | james41382 | nabblet: Okay homework break is over. Back to the books. I think I'll install ntp though. =] |
| 08:22.52 | nabblet | james41382: well, i was off my ~ 30 minutes yesterday, few hours ago, i was ahead ~ 1 minute and now i am right |
| 08:23.01 | nabblet | james41382: no clue how that happened |
| 08:23.44 | mumpitzel | are you inside a VM or similar? |
| 08:24.09 | nabblet | james41382: don't |
| 08:24.28 | nabblet | james41382: at least, if you think your time is working correctly, don't |
| 08:24.41 | nabblet | james41382: that's what i did - and that that# |
| 08:24.53 | nabblet | that's what "broke" my neck, because too many mechanisms disturbed each other |
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| 08:32.10 | punto | hi.. how do I run 32 bit binaries in testing? (64 bit installation) ia32-libs doesn't seem to exist anymore |
| 08:32.23 | babilen | dpkg: tell punto -about multiarch |
| 08:33.00 | babilen | punto: The Multiarch feature was introduced in the wheezy release. Please also note that testing is supported specifically in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (cf. /topic) |
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| 08:33.25 | punto | thanks |
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| 09:01.02 | StaticLNX | anyone know a good howto on setting up rsyslogd in debian wheezy for allowing remote devices to log to it? |
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| 09:02.51 | icesword | hello |
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| 09:03.25 | icesword | how do config the coding of w3m from utf8 to gb2312 if could |
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| 09:09.19 | babilen | StaticLNX: Try http://www.rsyslog.com/receiving-messages-from-a-remote-system/ + http://www.rsyslog.com/sending-messages-to-a-remote-syslog-server/ -- But please make sure to read the onfiguration files shipped with Debian and its README.Debian before you make any invasive changes. |
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| 09:18.27 | tete_ | hi, i tried to install http://www.djigzo.com/documents/installation-guide.pdf on my debian wheezy. in the documentation they say tomcat6 or higher is required or any other servlet container. so i installed tomcat7. but in the guide, they say something of ROOT.xml and web.xml, but both do not appear on that location as is on that guide. i still followed it but now i get an exception when the .war is deployed |
| 09:18.49 | tete_ | because its not a "correct" root.xml/web.xml - anyone experienced with tomcat7 and debian? |
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| 09:20.45 | guardian | hello, does http://www.openssh.org/txt/gcmrekey.adv apply to wheezy? nmap -p 22 --script ssh2-enum-algos my.server.com but it doesn't seem to list aes-gcm |
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| 09:24.14 | molavy | hi |
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| 09:25.07 | molavy | i try setup exim to send email using remote smtp server |
| 09:25.15 | molavy | what this error means? |
| 09:25.16 | molavy | http://dpaste.com/1450693/ |
| 09:26.47 | grn | could you recommend me an encrypted backup program? I found duplicity. What are other possibilities? What are your experiences? |
| 09:28.07 | molavy | any idea? |
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| 09:31.08 | molavy | there is no idea? |
| 09:31.08 | tete_ | next time i will read the exception... forgot the </Context> in the .xml |
| 09:31.10 | babilen | molavy: Do you have an ijmr account or alias on that box? Please also note that there is an #exim channel. |
| 09:32.03 | molavy | yes i have one and can login using webmail interface |
| 09:32.08 | molavy | into mailbox |
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| 09:34.06 | babilen | molavy: What does "hostname -i", "hostname" give you and what is in your /etc/hosts? |
| 09:35.21 | molavy | http://dpaste.com/1450715/ |
| 09:35.39 | babilen | molavy: And come and join us in #exim! |
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| 09:35.49 | babilen | Ah, you did :) |
| 09:36.18 | molavy | yes |
| 09:36.32 | babilen | molavy: You server doesn't know that it is bmsu.ac.ir as it is journals.bmsu.ac.ir |
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| 09:37.13 | molavy | so? what should i do now? |
| 09:38.18 | molavy | i want use mail.bmsu.ac.ir mail server to send emails |
| 09:38.20 | babilen | molavy: And mail seems to be handled by mail.bmsu.ac.ir -- your locally installed exim4 can't route |
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| 09:38.57 | molavy | why it can't route ?, what is wrong? |
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| 09:41.39 | babilen | molavy: What does "host bmsu.ac.ir" give you? What about "host mail.bmsu.ac.ir" ? |
| 09:42.00 | molavy | bmsu.ac.ir has address 188.75.99.7 |
| 09:42.00 | molavy | bmsu.ac.ir mail is handled by 9 mail.bmsu.ac.ir. |
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| 09:44.01 | molavy | host mail.bmsu.ac.ir return mail.bmsu.ac.ir has address 188.75.99.11 |
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| 09:45.03 | FreezingCold | W: Failure trying to run: mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 09:45.16 | FreezingCold | [root@bandsman ~]# cat /mnt/rootdir/debootstrap/debootstrap.log |
| 09:45.16 | FreezingCold | mount: proc already mounted |
| 09:45.26 | babilen | molavy: That looks about right, I guess you have to check your routing (cf. http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-how_exim_receives_and_delivers_mail.html) -- not sure what your exact problem is right now |
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| 09:47.54 | molavy | babilen, after i change using dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config it return ALERT: exim paniclog /var/log/exim4/paniclog has non-zero size, mail system possibly broken |
| 09:47.55 | molavy | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:48.01 | babilen | molavy: It would also help if you could give more information about the way you configured exim4 and the routers you have. You obviously miss a router to accept mail for bmsu.ac.ir and deliver it to mail.bmsu.ac.ir (as per MX record), why/how that is is unclear to me now |
| 09:48.13 | babilen | molavy: yes, check your paniclog |
| 09:48.25 | Leoneof | what's the best tool to resize two partitions? |
| 09:48.38 | molavy | 2007-11-07 20:02:38 socket bind() to port 25 for address 192.168.122.3 failed: Cannot assign requested address: daemon abandoned |
| 09:48.39 | babilen | molavy: I'm not really using exim4 but postfix here, but that would be my intuition |
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| 09:49.17 | babilen | molavy: Why does it want to bind to that address? |
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| 09:53.53 | babilen | molavy: Please also check your mainlog, brb |
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| 09:56.00 | babilen | molavy: And was the output you pasted at the beginning the entire output? IIRC your can get exim to print much more information and, in particular, information about the routers it tried and why they failed. Thought it was -v, but not sure ... should probably check its manpage :) |
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| 09:57.41 | babilen | molavy: What does "exim -bt ijmr@bmsu.ac.ir" give you? |
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| 09:58.24 | molavy | exim -bt ijmr@bmsu.ac.ir R: system_aliases for ijmr@bmsu.ac.ir ijmr@bmsu.ac.ir is undeliverable: Unrouteable address |
| 09:59.15 | babilen | molavy: May I see your /etc/aliases ? |
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| 09:59.58 | babilen | molavy: And I don't think you showed me the output of "hostname" |
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| 10:00.38 | elvora | cl |
| 10:00.53 | molavy | hostname return journals |
| 10:00.59 | babilen | ack |
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| 10:01.40 | molavy | http://dpaste.com/1450751/ |
| 10:01.41 | babilen | molavy: What is your user on that system? |
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| 10:01.53 | molavy | current user , root |
| 10:02.04 | molavy | ssh root@.... |
| 10:02.40 | babilen | molavy: Why do you sent "From: ijmr@bmsu.ac.ir" then? |
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| 10:03.10 | molavy | because i want show ijmr on from bar |
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| 10:03.27 | molavy | i want use remote smtp |
| 10:03.32 | molavy | mail.bmsu.ac.ir |
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| 10:05.06 | babilen | molavy: Well, exim4 on journals doesn't know anything about ijmr -- Mind showing me "exim -d -bt ijmr@bmsu.ac.ir" ? -- You might need a manual route, but you should send *from* a sensible mail address on that host. |
| 10:05.31 | babilen | molavy: Try sending as your actual user and it probably works |
| 10:06.00 | babilen | Either way, /me is afk for a while -- let me know how it goes |
| 10:06.07 | molavy | http://dpaste.com/1450760/ |
| 10:07.48 | molavy | but i don't have account with root id on mail.bmsu.ac.ir |
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| 10:08.01 | babilen | molavy: Do you have exim configured with bmsu.ac.ir as domain on journals somewhere? |
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| 10:08.37 | babilen | molavy: I meant: sent a mail from youruser@journals or whatever |
| 10:08.45 | babilen | meh, breakfast :) |
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| 10:10.30 | molavy | that mean using exim -v ijmr@bmsu.ac.ir then on from put root@journals |
| 10:10.56 | babilen | molavy: And it would *still* be interesting to hear how you actually configured exim ... what did you pick? smarthost? foobar? internet site? ... |
| 10:11.28 | molavy | babilen: smarthost |
| 10:13.40 | babilen | molavy: I still don't understand what you are trying to do, but something is wrong in your plan. Anyway, I'm having breakfast now and don't plan to learn exim4 again. |
| 10:14.06 | molavy | ok, when you will comeback |
| 10:14.07 | molavy | ? |
| 10:14.14 | babilen | no idea |
| 10:14.18 | molavy | here is config file http://dpaste.com/1450773/ |
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| 10:16.05 | elvora | set weechat.bar.status.color_bg 60 |
| 10:16.22 | elvora | sorry about that. |
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| 10:17.05 | finkata | help |
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| 10:24.59 | mumpitzel | !fix finkata |
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| 10:26.15 | FreezingCold | I can't seem to install my GPU driver: http://sprunge.us/HYNL |
| 10:26.18 | FreezingCold | Ideas on how to fix that/ |
| 10:26.19 | FreezingCold | ? |
| 10:26.48 | mumpitzel | FreezingCold: we do not support ubuntu |
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| 10:27.31 | FreezingCold | mumpitzel: I have no name!@localhost:/# cat /etc/*-release |
| 10:27.32 | FreezingCold | PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy)" |
| 10:27.53 | FreezingCold | Looks like I'm running Debian |
| 10:28.08 | mumpitzel | FreezingCold: even if you actually are. ubuntu packages don't work on debian |
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| 10:28.30 | FreezingCold | mumpitzel: er, not at all? I thought dpkg was the same on both? |
| 10:28.53 | mumpitzel | suse packages don't work on rhel either. and they both use rpm. the package format means nothing |
| 10:28.55 | xand | the packages are not the same |
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| 10:29.13 | xand | you might find some packages that are designed for both, but that one is not |
| 10:29.31 | mumpitzel | ,v libc6 |
| 10:29.32 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38; jessie: 2.17-93; sid: 2.17-93 |
| 10:29.48 | xand | it requires ubuntu-specific libc6 |
| 10:29.59 | mumpitzel | as you can see, you can try jessie. but it might work or it might not. we don't know about ubuntu packages and we don't care |
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| 10:30.06 | mumpitzel | xand: no. just a libc6 >= 2.15 |
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| 10:31.14 | xand | it says ubuntu |
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| 10:32.59 | FreezingCold | Hmm, trying to find mali 400 for Debian... |
| 10:33.47 | StaticLNX | whats a good web based syslog viewer? |
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| 10:35.00 | phatypus | splunk |
| 10:35.34 | phatypus | www.splunk.com |
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| 10:36.45 | StaticLNX | ty |
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| 10:47.04 | FreezingCold | success! Debian is (sort of) running on my Android ARM stick :) |
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| 11:09.23 | FreezingCold | What's "depmod -a" do? |
| 11:10.02 | mumpitzel | man depmod |
| 11:11.05 | FreezingCold | mumpitzel: I know it probes all the modules, but I'm not sure why this guide I'm reading wants me to do that |
| 11:11.43 | mumpitzel | it makes modprobe work with all modules you have installed into /lib/modules/ basically |
| 11:11.57 | mumpitzel | dependency resolution for modules |
| 11:12.16 | ShapeShifter499 | hi again |
| 11:12.19 | WeirdConnection | hi! i have slight problem with my wired connection: i can only connect to lan when i manually set my ip, gateway, dns, etc. i found only a few similar incidents on google, but none of them seemed to fit my problem. any idea would be welcomed regarding where to look for solution! |
| 11:12.30 | FreezingCold | mumpitzel: ah, thanks |
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| 11:12.34 | FreezingCold | that makes sense |
| 11:12.34 | ShapeShifter499 | anyone know how I can remote decrypt via ssh my debian system? |
| 11:12.48 | mumpitzel | WeirdConnection: how are you configuring your network? |
| 11:12.58 | mumpitzel | ShapeShifter499: decrypt how? |
| 11:13.29 | WeirdConnection | via the gui, netconfig i guess |
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| 11:13.49 | mumpitzel | WeirdConnection: and what exactly happens? |
| 11:14.12 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitzel, I have a encrypted lvm setup, if I need to reboot my server but I'm not near it, I know it will stall waiting for me to imput my passphrase |
| 11:14.31 | mumpitzel | ShapeShifter499: no you can not. ssh doesn't run at this point |
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| 11:15.00 | scottj | when I do a dist-upgrade from testing to unstable it says feed2imap will be removed, but it's in unstable, what does that mean? |
| 11:15.08 | mumpitzel | ShapeShifter499: maybe if you can fiddle a dropbear into your initrd it _might_ work |
| 11:15.25 | mumpitzel | scottj: it means some dependency conflict |
| 11:15.27 | ShapeShifter499 | *input |
| 11:15.33 | mumpitzel | ,v feed2imap |
| 11:15.34 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitzel, hmm |
| 11:15.35 | judd | Package: feed2imap on i386 -- squeeze: 1.0-1; jessie: 1.0-2; sid: 1.0-2; wheezy: 1.0-2; experimental: 1.2-1 |
| 11:15.47 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitzel, know how I would even go about that? |
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| 11:16.14 | hurdorbsd | hi |
| 11:16.32 | WeirdConnection | mumpitzel: well it used to work, but after a few month yesterday i turn on my laptop, and it couldn't connect to lan with automatic settings, so i googled and red something, tha manual config may help. and with manual settings it connects to lan. for changeing the settings i used the graphical interface. |
| 11:16.35 | mumpitzel | WeirdConnection: edit this into your /etc/network/interfaces and then run /etc/init.d/networking restart as root. check if you then get a IP |
| 11:16.53 | mumpitzel | this being https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Using_DHCP_to_automatically_configure_the_interface sorry |
| 11:17.50 | WeirdConnection | mumpitzel: does the order relevant? |
| 11:18.06 | mumpitzel | order of what? |
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| 11:19.15 | WeirdConnection | the commands, because i tryed adding thouse lines and restart the machine, and it did not work. any way i try it now |
| 11:19.16 | eptalon | heyas |
| 11:19.25 | hurdorbsd | is there an alt to libreoffice and light weight one? |
| 11:19.37 | hurdorbsd | I am using Debian 7.2 amd64 |
| 11:19.39 | Gblue | Is there somebody that can give me a Linux VPS for free? It's just for some ZNC & IRC hosting :p 32MB RAM is enough |
| 11:19.47 | mumpitzel | hurdorbsd: abiword, gnumeric, etc |
| 11:19.54 | eptalon | I use jessie/unstable; how do I set one user to use the new default xfce instead of what looks like gonme/unity? |
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| 11:20.26 | mumpitzel | eptalon: create a ~/.xinit for him |
| 11:20.49 | hurdorbsd | ok |
| 11:20.51 | eptalon | mumpitzel: url? |
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| 11:22.04 | eptalon | mumpitzel: I have a local .Xsession, which I could copy to that new user. |
| 11:22.50 | mumpitzel | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47359/what-is-xsession-for |
| 11:22.58 | mumpitzel | eptalon: first google, THEN ask |
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| 11:24.09 | eptalon | mumpitzel: thx |
| 11:25.04 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitzel, this appears to be the correct solution for me http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/29990 |
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| 11:25.36 | mumpitzel | ShapeShifter499: looks good, yes |
| 11:25.47 | hurdorbsd | I installed both abiword and libreoffice |
| 11:26.24 | hurdorbsd | is there a download manager for debian .. like fdm in windows |
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| 11:30.49 | mumpitzel | !tell hurdorbsd about search |
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| 11:31.33 | WeirdConnection | mumpitzel: it said "No DHCPOFFERS received." and than "ifup: interface eth0 configured" and yet no connection :( |
| 11:31.47 | mumpitzel | cause your dhcp server is broken. fix it |
| 11:32.06 | WeirdConnection | mumpitzel:me? |
| 11:32.31 | mumpitzel | yes you |
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| 11:32.51 | mumpitzel | WeirdConnection: at the most simple: powercycle your router. |
| 11:33.24 | WeirdConnection | ok, so its the router! |
| 11:33.26 | WeirdConnection | ty |
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| 11:39.25 | Rajsun | /j #freebsd |
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| 11:49.27 | Dirkos | Due some odd reason my crontab is not working: 48 12 * * * /scripts/backup.sh 2>&1 /tmp/testlog.log |
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| 11:49.32 | Dirkos | there is NO output in the file |
| 11:49.41 | no | yes? |
| 11:50.06 | Dirkos | is there anything wrong with my code or what could this be |
| 11:50.28 | Guest84394 | when booting a live cd, how can i make sure that no information is recorded (no file, no command-line history, nothing) after i reboot? |
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| 11:52.23 | at0m | Guest84394: don't save anything to disk. umount auto-mounted harddisk partitions, or mount them read-only. |
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| 11:53.14 | hurdorbsd | ya |
| 11:53.28 | Guest84394 | at0m: so i type "df" to see is something is mounted, and then i sudo umount everything here? (sorry noob here) |
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| 11:54.10 | at0m | Guest84394: mount to see mounts. then umount harddisk partitions, not the live-cd. |
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| 11:55.34 | archtimmy | Dirkos: maybe you meant /scripts/backup.sh &> /tmp/testlog.log |
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| 11:56.00 | d3xter | hey guys |
| 11:56.23 | Dirkos | archtimmy: testing |
| 11:56.44 | Dirkos | deamon is running btw |
| 11:56.46 | d3xter | my local ip adresses have changed and now apt-cacher stopped working with "libcurl: couldn't resolve hostname". but apt-get directly works fine. any hints? |
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| 11:57.05 | Guest84394 | at0m: ok i see; right now i'm not on a live cd, and mount shows: http://pastie.org/8467569, if i had this when booted on the live cd, how would i go to umount all of these? |
| 11:57.09 | Dirkos | archtimmy: still no output |
| 11:58.11 | archtimmy | what does cron's log say? |
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| 11:59.27 | Dirkos | archtimmy: there are no new entries since 06 this morning |
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| 12:00.32 | at0m | Guest84394: there's no disk partitions mounted, i think. unless /dev/sda1 is a harddisk, but i guess that's your CD |
| 12:00.38 | Dirkos | archtimmy /var/log/syslog << not even an entry that i changed crontab |
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| 12:01.40 | mumpitzel | at0m: sda1 is a harddisk |
| 12:02.00 | Guest84394 | at0m: yes it should be the hard disk (i'm not on the live cd right now); so all of these would be safe if i were on the live cd? (except /dev/sda1) |
| 12:02.29 | Guest84394 | what about swap memory (i don't even know if there is) |
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| 12:02.30 | archtimmy | Dirkos: do other jobs run? |
| 12:02.33 | mumpitzel | Guest84394: on what debian livecd are you? |
| 12:02.36 | at0m | Guest84394: ah you're on harddisk now |
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| 12:02.47 | Dirkos | archtimmy: this is the only job, its a new server and im trying to run the backup script |
| 12:02.53 | Guest84394 | yes i'm on harddisk right now, but i will run debian 7.2 |
| 12:03.08 | archtimmy | did you use crontab -e to edit? |
| 12:03.11 | Guest84394 | (harddisk ubuntu, even) |
| 12:03.23 | Dirkos | archtimmy: yes |
| 12:03.25 | Dirkos | archtimmy: Nov 9 07:01:01 hstop40-w01 /usr/sbin/cron[1900]: (root) RELOAD (crontabs/root) |
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| 12:03.33 | at0m | Guest84394: only partition that live-CD would write to is if it finds an existing swap partition on disk |
| 12:03.34 | Dirkos | does this mean it has been executed? |
| 12:04.03 | d3xter | my local ip adresses have changed and now apt-cacher stopped working with "libcurl: couldn't resolve hostname". but apt-get with bypassing apt-cacher works fine. any hints? |
| 12:04.03 | archtimmy | this means it loaded a new version of root's crontab |
| 12:04.07 | mumpitzel | no, the changed crontab has been loaded |
| 12:04.28 | Guest84394 | at0m: do you see swap here? if there isn't i should be safe unless i mount /dev/sda1 myself? |
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| 12:04.41 | Dirkos | archtimmy: i restarted the services and now it seems to run lol |
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| 12:05.41 | archtimmy | the original version was missing a > before filename |
| 12:06.13 | Guest84394 | was told to use (on #ubuntu) umount -a All of the file systems described in /etc/mtab are unmounted. (With umount version 2.7 and later: the proc filesystem is not unmounted.) |
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| 12:06.54 | at0m | Guest84394: umount -a? you don't want to umount / either |
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| 12:07.31 | Guest84394 | hmm |
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| 12:08.47 | Guest84394 | at0m: but it will just try to umount everything, and fail for /? |
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| 12:09.08 | at0m | Guest84394: i never tried. |
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| 12:09.41 | Guest84394 | ok np |
| 12:09.43 | Guest84394 | thanks for the help |
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| 12:34.52 | dryaderich | hello, afair, there has been a discussion that NIST has cooked some standards for the NSA, in particular ECC |
| 12:35.26 | dryaderich | debian 7 creates and uses ECDSA and has a reference to NIST in the key, and I wonder, if it's secure or not. |
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| 12:42.10 | AleksEst | AES approved by NSA, you need anything else? |
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| 12:42.44 | AleksEst | intel/amd/vmware/cisco/hp/ibm everything is ruled by NSA |
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| 12:43.08 | AleksEst | but Snowden, yes, he told you, you never knew that before, right? |
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| 13:03.33 | AminCX | hello, i got in to a weird problem, my users are complaining about file corruption when they download over my proxy server, what causes that ? |
| 13:04.28 | Strathy | how can I enable 'eyecandy' on lxde environment? Nvidia drivers already installed? |
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| 13:12.13 | amospalla | can thin lvm be used with jessie? Does installer support thin lvm? |
| 13:12.20 | FreezingCold | bcm40181 |
| 13:12.26 | FreezingCold | loaded, checked with lsmod |
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| 13:13.06 | jelly-home | amospalla: I'm not sure the version of lvm2 in jessie caught up to thin allocation feature yet |
| 13:13.14 | jelly-home | ,v lvm2 |
| 13:13.16 | judd | Package: lvm2 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.02.66-5; wheezy: 2.02.95-8; jessie: 2.02.98-6+b1; sid: 2.02.98-6+b1 |
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| 13:13.35 | jelly-home | amospalla: isn't that in like 2.02.101 or so? #lvm would know |
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| 13:14.25 | amospalla | 2.02.89 starts it |
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| 13:15.07 | amospalla | so, it does thin lvm, but I'm afraid the installer may not allow me to use them at installation time |
| 13:15.25 | Inedible | Does anyone know if it's possible to access an existing shell/terminal on the same computer from another one? E.g. I have ssh'd into my development server but I want to access that existing SSH shell/connection from another shell (a local one)? |
| 13:16.08 | at0m | Inedible: i use screen -x for that |
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| 13:16.42 | jelly-home | amospalla: #debian-boot on orc.oftc.net is the channel for debian-installer, it might be worth to ask there about possible upcoming features |
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| 13:16.48 | jelly-home | irc.oftc.net |
| 13:16.58 | amospalla | jelly-home: thanks, going there :) |
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| 13:17.26 | jelly-home | amospalla: also, #debian-next on that network for jessie or sid questions |
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| 13:18.03 | amospalla | thanks again |
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| 13:20.30 | Inedible | at0m: I use screen :) - What I'm looking to do is be able to execute a command on another terminal/ssh from PHP (this is to avoid needing to ssh login every time I need to access data from a remote PC) |
| 13:20.55 | e1z0 | use rtfm |
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| 13:21.56 | Inedible | I was thinking there's maybe some sort of socket or other way of accessing an existing terminal? |
| 13:22.27 | e1z0 | some kind of sockets problem |
| 13:22.27 | jelly-home | Inedible: consider using ssh multiplexing instead |
| 13:22.42 | e1z0 | need to do a clean update |
| 13:22.44 | jelly-home | speeds up further ssh connections a lot |
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| 13:22.52 | Inedible | jelly-home: I've not come across that before but I'll go take a look |
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| 13:25.06 | Inedible | jelly-home: It looks like it could solve some of the problem and pushes a different problem into another place |
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| 13:26.46 | WilliamDotSI | http://paste.ee/p/ctZGh someone an idea? |
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| 13:26.49 | Inedible | jelly-home: That looks quite interesting |
| 13:26.51 | WilliamDotSI | cpu lockup with ZFS as kernel module |
| 13:27.00 | WilliamDotSI | OOM maybe? added more swap now. |
| 13:27.05 | jelly-home | WilliamDotSI: #zfsonlinux is thataway --> |
| 13:27.19 | WilliamDotSI | if you look, i am in there already |
| 13:27.27 | jelly-home | I did not look. |
| 13:27.28 | WilliamDotSI | ;) |
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| 13:27.43 | WilliamDotSI | not really kernel experts there, more ZFS only or ZFS related |
| 13:27.51 | Inedible | jelly-home: It's not the ideal solution but it might solve one of the larger ones - thanks :) |
| 13:27.52 | WilliamDotSI | i think this *might* be ZFS related but not entirely |
| 13:27.52 | jelly-home | but kernel zfs isn't in debian at all |
| 13:27.59 | WilliamDotSI | as it works on other systems |
| 13:28.27 | WilliamDotSI | jelly-home: meh, im just looking for a read of my log of someone else to see if they see something i didn't see |
| 13:28.41 | WilliamDotSI | its a Debian 6, so certainly debian related, and this is a general channel ;) |
| 13:29.23 | Inedible | Does anyone know if the socket file for ssh (/tmp/ssh-*) can be used to send commands/receive data? |
| 13:30.01 | bandwith | WilliamDotSI: you need logs prior to the OOM |
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| 13:30.12 | WilliamDotSI | bandwith: nothing in there |
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| 13:30.21 | WilliamDotSI | last log entry before was almost a day before |
| 13:30.26 | WilliamDotSI | and the usual cronjobs |
| 13:30.33 | jelly-home | WilliamDotSI: why debian 6 and not 7, btw? |
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| 13:30.42 | WilliamDotSI | OpenVZ |
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| 13:31.03 | WilliamDotSI | i switch to LXC though as test if it might be caused by a weird issue between OpenVZ and ZFS on 2.6.* |
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| 13:31.04 | jelly-home | eugh, openvz _and_ zfs |
| 13:31.08 | WilliamDotSI | yea |
| 13:31.11 | WilliamDotSI | welcome to my world |
| 13:31.17 | WilliamDotSI | all because LXC does only support DHCP |
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| 13:31.29 | dreamon | I'm searching schematic of Acer notebook Aspire 7740 (JV70-CP). Anybody know a good place to search? |
| 13:31.45 | WilliamDotSI | (and KVM has too much overhead) |
| 13:31.54 | mumpitzel | dreamon: wrong channel |
| 13:32.01 | jelly-home | mixing and matching two different out of tree patchsets is bound to have "interesting" effects on kernel stability, don't you think |
| 13:32.08 | hurdorbsd | y is debian using libreoffice 3 yet? |
| 13:32.14 | WilliamDotSI | less jelly-home |
| 13:32.19 | WilliamDotSI | Proxmox is essentially the same thing |
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| 13:32.23 | mumpitzel | hurdorbsd: there is a libreoffice 4.1 backport |
| 13:32.24 | WilliamDotSI | and works fine for a lot of users |
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| 13:32.39 | WilliamDotSI | in fact, its just a rebranded 2.6.32 anyway |
| 13:32.45 | WilliamDotSI | and the ZFS module is exactly the same as well |
| 13:32.48 | jelly-home | WilliamDotSI: but you're not using it |
| 13:32.48 | Strathy | how can I enable 'eyecandy' on lxde environment? Nvidia drivers already installed. |
| 13:32.48 | bandwith | WilliamDotSI: still, why not 7? https://wiki.debian.org/OpenVz |
| 13:33.14 | jelly-home | doesn't see this as a debian issue until zfs-dkms appears in the distro |
| 13:33.24 | WilliamDotSI | bandwith: because then i have no ZFS... |
| 13:33.54 | WilliamDotSI | this was also not available at the time i set up this system |
| 13:33.56 | WilliamDotSI | hmmmm |
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| 13:34.14 | WilliamDotSI | realistically, how likely is a dist upgrade to break my OS? |
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| 13:34.33 | WilliamDotSI | ignore the VZ and ZFS; both not required for boot and SSHd start (HW raid as boot etc) |
| 13:34.39 | mumpitzel | WilliamDotSI: sooner or later something needs a newer kernel. as long as you have a new enough kernel it will probably be alright |
| 13:34.46 | jelly-home | WilliamDotSI: dist upgrade from older debian 6 to current debian 6? Not much. |
| 13:34.51 | WilliamDotSI | Debian 6 -> 7 |
| 13:34.58 | jelly-home | oh, a release upgrade? |
| 13:35.02 | WilliamDotSI | ah yea |
| 13:35.03 | WilliamDotSI | my failure |
| 13:35.11 | WilliamDotSI | dist upgrade is likely never an issue, yea |
| 13:35.14 | jelly-home | something _always_ breaks |
| 13:35.16 | jelly-home | :-) |
| 13:35.23 | WilliamDotSI | well, as long as it boots, adds eth0 |
| 13:35.25 | WilliamDotSI | and starts SSHd |
| 13:35.27 | WilliamDotSI | im good to go |
| 13:35.41 | jelly-home | WilliamDotSI: read /msg dpkg wheezy release notes |
| 13:35.50 | jelly-home | WilliamDotSI: and /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
| 13:36.22 | bandwith | WilliamDotSI: I presume you don't have hands-on with this box |
| 13:36.25 | jelly-home | WilliamDotSI: a kernel upgrade to 3.2-something will happen during the procedure |
| 13:36.29 | WilliamDotSI | nope :( |
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| 13:36.47 | WilliamDotSI | other way however, which should be better i guess? |
| 13:37.00 | WilliamDotSI | i have another system (already Debian7, 3.2.0-4-amd64) |
| 13:37.10 | WilliamDotSI | switching to the openvz kernel there should not break anything? |
| 13:37.16 | WilliamDotSI | same version obviouslx |
| 13:37.50 | WilliamDotSI | im not sure how stable it is on Debian 7, thats why i ask - i know its the same procedure as installing on v6, just with a different repo |
| 13:37.57 | bandwith | take care to verify you can recover from a kernel panic or similar |
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| 13:41.03 | jelly-home | WilliamDotSI: I have to confess I've seen very few openvz installations, and most were running openvz.org 2.6.32-looks-like-rhel-but-with-slab-stuff kernels. Not debian's. Not 3.x anything. |
| 13:41.07 | at0m | WilliamDotSI: I'd check openvz control panel, maybe they offer backup option so you can restore after in case of fail? |
| 13:42.37 | at0m | i had new kernel fail to provide venet0 (it didn't have eth), or failed to get IP, I assume due to some customizations with openvz |
| 13:43.09 | WilliamDotSI | eh, the official kernel from openvz is also 2.6.32* |
| 13:43.14 | WilliamDotSI | so not solving my issue at all |
| 13:43.20 | WilliamDotSI | i thought this weas finally a patched 3.* |
| 13:44.46 | bandwith | lol @ openvz, rebase on RHEL7 |
| 13:45.44 | bandwith | WilliamDotSI: it may be time to move away from openvz... |
| 13:46.28 | WilliamDotSI | i would |
| 13:46.33 | WilliamDotSI | question is to what lol |
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| 13:46.51 | WilliamDotSI | KVM has extreme overhead, Xen is not in 3.*, OVZ is not in 3.*, LXC has limitations with networking |
| 13:47.00 | WilliamDotSI | nothing left.. |
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| 13:47.35 | JohnnyL | How do you overlap windows under multiple desktops? I have a preferences screen whose font makes the screen go past it's bottom. this is in kde |
| 13:47.38 | jelly-home | bandwith: where is EL7? |
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| 13:48.03 | bandwith | jelly-home: it's imaginary AOR internal development |
| 13:48.32 | at0m | JohnnyL: move up the preferences window with alt-drag? |
| 13:48.37 | WilliamDotSI | anyone has a tutorial for OVZ -> LXC migration? |
| 13:48.46 | WilliamDotSI | i try that, better than what i have now anyway :/ |
| 13:49.23 | JohnnyL | atom: my settings don't allow that. |
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| 13:49.57 | jelly-home | WilliamDotSI: perhaps separating storage (zfs) and virtualization on two separate hosts might be worth investigating |
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| 13:50.11 | WilliamDotSI | not really, as this is SSDs |
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| 13:50.15 | bandwith | WilliamDotSI: If you're concerned about overhead and rebalancing a VM farm, look at ganeti https://code.google.com/p/ganeti/ |
| 13:50.16 | WilliamDotSI | and i need the lowest possible latency |
| 13:50.29 | ska | I have d7 instlled on my max, but I can't access virtual consoles |
| 13:50.41 | WilliamDotSI | even Infiniband has some 25% latency overhead |
| 13:50.48 | WilliamDotSI | and i need to mount it as well, iscsi 5-10%, NFS 20.30% |
| 13:51.18 | WilliamDotSI | not even thinking about ethernet, 10Gbit limit would kill the SSD arrays usage |
| 13:51.25 | bandwith | points at pace.gatech.edu |
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| 13:51.42 | bandwith | talk shop with those guys |
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| 13:53.00 | bandwith | sounds like we're in different leagues with what you're wanting to accomplish |
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| 13:53.27 | WilliamDotSI | http://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_413 |
| 13:53.32 | WilliamDotSI | and this isnt the best either, even if it is just for my own usage |
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| 13:53.38 | WilliamDotSI | then i could run chroots as well... |
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| 13:55.47 | sharky | WilliamDotSI, evil evil, but good for pointing that out |
| 13:56.10 | WilliamDotSI | so the option now is KVM, KVM or KVM |
| 13:56.20 | jelly-home | ESXi! |
| 13:56.22 | jelly-home | hides |
| 13:56.26 | WilliamDotSI | and KVM has disk and HDD overhead |
| 13:56.34 | bandwith | swings a fish at jelly-home |
| 13:56.35 | WilliamDotSI | jelly-home: eh, i want ZFS as root fs |
| 13:56.38 | WilliamDotSI | :p |
| 13:56.45 | jelly-home | you're silly |
| 13:56.51 | WilliamDotSI | i doubt my hardware is even ESXi certified |
| 13:56.54 | WilliamDotSI | or compatible |
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| 13:57.05 | WilliamDotSI | jelly-home: why would i? |
| 13:57.13 | WilliamDotSI | i tested many options and ZFS is by far the fastest |
| 13:57.16 | ska | anyone know how to acces virtual console on Macpro hardware? |
| 13:57.46 | WilliamDotSI | including HW RAID, HW RAID and Caching, MDRAID, unRAID and EFI level 'HW' RAID |
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| 13:57.54 | ska | No keystroke I've tried seems to work. |
| 13:58.03 | WilliamDotSI | all have at least 10% less performance and do not offer snapshots or similar features |
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| 13:58.17 | WilliamDotSI | (yes, i could run LVM -> and get even less performance) |
| 13:58.29 | jelly-home | yeah, that's the problem of low margin providers, 10% counts a lot |
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| 13:59.22 | jelly-home | prefers stability but works for $employer that can afford decent hw instead of zfs |
| 13:59.25 | WilliamDotSI | mhm? |
| 13:59.26 | bandwith | WilliamDotSI: what are you doing that requires all of these low-overhead vms and low latency? |
| 13:59.28 | WilliamDotSI | thats my private setup |
| 13:59.30 | WilliamDotSI | lol |
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| 13:59.37 | jelly-home | WilliamDotSI: wth do you care about 10%, then |
| 13:59.52 | WilliamDotSI | because i need performance for my stuff as well? |
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| 14:00.03 | WilliamDotSI | even if it does not make any money it might has personal value |
| 14:00.06 | WilliamDotSI | or simply requires power |
| 14:00.35 | WilliamDotSI | same reasona gamer buys a gaming PC or builds it himself to get more power, thats not making cash either |
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| 14:00.55 | bandwith | WilliamDotSI: https://xen-orchestra.com/debian-pvhvm-vs-pv/ |
| 14:00.55 | jelly-home | yeah, I guess you have different priorities |
| 14:01.16 | WilliamDotSI | considering that i have 3000EUR in SSDs for my personal usage, i guess :p |
| 14:01.16 | sharky | WilliamDotSI, as far as I know containers is a work in progress, recently watched the video with Ben Hutchings http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2013/debconf13/high/1018_Whats_new_in_the_Linux_kernel.ogv |
| 14:01.44 | WilliamDotSI | its just that i work for an ISP and earn well and get access to cheap colo/bw |
| 14:02.01 | WilliamDotSI | so i run VPS for friends and many own projects, own mail, sharing, websites etc |
| 14:02.33 | bandwith | WilliamDotSI: I'd love to do a speedtest against your stuff |
| 14:02.37 | WilliamDotSI | i will replace this system anyway in case it is REALLY just the RAM |
| 14:02.38 | bandwith | netwok* |
| 14:02.47 | WilliamDotSI | thats how commited i am :p |
| 14:03.10 | WilliamDotSI | this i7 has a limit of 32GB so i get some Dual CPU with ~100G, maybe thats better for a ~900GB ZFSSSD |
| 14:03.34 | WilliamDotSI | bandwith: 1300MB/s IO |
| 14:03.54 | WilliamDotSI | on 3.6.32 ZFS, means Solaris/3.* would be ~2500MB/s :p |
| 14:03.56 | bandwith | cries with this macbookpro |
| 14:04.06 | jelly-home | noone's impressed with MB/s, talk iops. |
| 14:04.19 | WilliamDotSI | ~1,2m |
| 14:04.43 | jelly-home | with what, 24 ssds? |
| 14:04.44 | ska | If anyone is runnin on a macpro or mac-mini, what keystroke do I use to get to virtual contoles? |
| 14:04.50 | WilliamDotSI | by specs |
| 14:04.52 | WilliamDotSI | reality is less |
| 14:04.54 | WilliamDotSI | just testing |
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| 14:05.11 | WilliamDotSI | jelly-home: 8 in mirror |
| 14:05.12 | bandwith | ska, I don't.. still running 10.8 |
| 14:05.14 | jelly-home | specs lie. SSDs lie about having written stuff to hardware. |
| 14:05.19 | WilliamDotSI | yea |
| 14:05.52 | ska | FOund it.. |
| 14:06.00 | WilliamDotSI | ~400k |
| 14:06.01 | bandwith | ska, and... what was it |
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| 14:06.28 | ska | fn-ctrl-alt f2 |
| 14:06.37 | ska | Easy for alien hands :) |
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| 14:07.21 | bandwith | disable those quick-button overlays on the function keys |
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| 14:07.29 | bandwith | then it'll be back to normal |
| 14:08.00 | ska | bandwith: can I ask how? how? |
| 14:08.20 | bandwith | whenever the new machines get shipped, I'll install deb7 on this machine |
| 14:08.40 | bandwith | ska, depends on the gui you're using |
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| 14:09.05 | ska | bandwith: what about 10.9? I couldnt get a copy because they require 10.6+... ( i didnt try hard though ). |
| 14:09.21 | ska | bandwith: I'm goin gto lxde I think or icewm |
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| 14:10.19 | bandwith | I need a logic board replacement.. not going to have an OS change kernel modules on what barely functions |
| 14:10.58 | bandwith | should see if any apple store would do a free fix |
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| 14:11.28 | ska | bandwith: what hardware do you have? |
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| 14:12.32 | bandwith | ska: the one covered by this ... http://support.apple.com/kb/TS4088 |
| 14:12.35 | zophy | my TI calculator ran debian back in 1978 |
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| 14:13.05 | bandwith | zophy: my HeathKit ran assembly back in the day too |
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| 14:15.10 | zophy | i actually have an original Altair that i can play with if i want to, it hasn't been powered up since the 1980's so the power supply caps are probably dried out |
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| 14:15.51 | zophy | it must have at least 1K of ram |
| 14:16.00 | zophy | static ram |
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| 14:20.41 | zophy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altair_8800 |
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| 14:22.41 | bandwith | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenith_Z89 |
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| 14:22.54 | bandwith | we had the heathkit branded modell |
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| 14:23.06 | abrotman | points at #debian-offtopic |
| 14:23.23 | abrotman | zophy: you should know better, you've been told before |
| 14:23.30 | ska | I can't boot linux now.. |
| 14:23.31 | bandwith | hasn't |
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| 14:23.43 | abrotman | bandwith: yes, I know .. That was more directed at zophy |
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| 14:23.56 | rneese | morning |
| 14:24.06 | rneese | i need help with 1 line in a script |
| 14:24.23 | rneese | sed -i /etc/apt/sources.list -e s,'deb cdrom\:\[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot i386 CD Binary-1 20130429-03:58\]/ wheezy main','# deb cdrom\:\[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Wheezy_ - Official Snapshot i386 CD Binary-1 20130429-03:58]\/ wheezy main', |
| 14:24.24 | abrotman | would #bash be more appropriate? |
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| 14:24.43 | rneese | I need it to really rm this 1 line from the /etc/apt/source.list |
| 14:24.53 | rneese | whats the best way to do this |
| 14:25.04 | rneese | ok |
| 14:25.14 | abrotman | rneese: sed -i /etc/apt/sources.list 's/deb cdrom/#deb cdrom/' |
| 14:25.17 | abrotman | erm .. add a -e |
| 14:25.27 | abrotman | rneese: you don't need to remove it, just comment it out |
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| 14:27.52 | ska | bandwith: I use reFit for dual booting. But is there a better way? |
| 14:28.36 | bandwith | ska: I wouldn't know. haven't tried anything outside of bootcamp |
| 14:28.46 | bandwith | this is a company owned and warrantied machine |
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| 14:31.43 | zophy | what kind of database does debian use for dpkg ? |
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| 14:32.37 | jelly-home | zophy: text file. |
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| 14:37.02 | imau | Hi, do you guys recommend a firewall in a laptop install ? |
| 14:37.18 | bandwith | imau: yes |
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| 14:37.46 | bandwith | imau: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_in_depth_(computing) |
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| 14:39.53 | imau | bandwith: what do you use, iptables blocking income and leting outgoing connections ? |
| 14:40.53 | bandwith | thats a generally acceptable practice. However for more security, only allow what you need for outgoing |
| 14:41.25 | dryaderich | can ecdsa as used by debian 7 be trusted? |
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| 14:42.37 | bandwith | We maintain firewalls for each individual VLAN on campus. In addition to the firewalls at the external connections. |
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| 14:43.10 | bandwith | and we have AD policies managing most of the Windows firewall stuff... |
| 14:43.19 | bandwith | etc, etc... |
| 14:43.20 | pirret | win 9 |
| 14:44.24 | hurdorbsd | why is debian using dated kernel yet? |
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| 14:44.37 | Zap-W | hi |
| 14:44.37 | bandwith | just don't log too much information on a high speed link, it could crash or slow down the connections |
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| 14:45.06 | Zap-W | how do I search for viewers in aptitude like pdf and chm file viewers what's the tag ? |
| 14:45.07 | bandwith | hurdorbsd: please restate the question/phrase |
| 14:46.31 | hurdorbsd | Why is debian using outdated Kernel yet? |
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| 14:49.10 | jelly-home | hurdorbsd: what do you mean by outdated? |
| 14:49.33 | hurdorbsd | 3.2 is the kernel right? |
| 14:49.40 | bandwith | hurdorbsd: the default is maintained so to reach the ideal of maximum stability and security across the widest set of available hardware |
| 14:50.03 | hurdorbsd | Wow Good :) |
| 14:50.06 | hurdorbsd | Thanks Debian |
| 14:50.11 | bandwith | hurdorbsd: you're welcome and encouraged to build outside of that |
| 14:50.14 | jelly-home | hurdorbsd: debian 7 kernel is 3.2 based, yes, currently based off 3.2.51 |
| 14:50.19 | hurdorbsd | I love it .. no issues ever! |
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| 14:50.30 | hurdorbsd | I am using 7.2 |
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| 14:50.52 | hurdorbsd | I love Debian cuz it doesn't just rush for the newest kernel |
| 14:51.03 | hurdorbsd | As sometimes the newest aren't well supported |
| 14:51.14 | bandwith | they're out there if you want to try them |
| 14:51.22 | hurdorbsd | My modem won't work on 3.9+ and newer |
| 14:51.33 | jelly-home | 3.2.* series is still maintained, http://kernel.org will tell you when the last 3.2 kernel got released |
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| 14:52.27 | hurdorbsd | is there a debian based OS with gnome/mate/xfce4 and latest kernel .. |
| 14:52.31 | hurdorbsd | I want to try |
| 14:52.42 | hurdorbsd | Libreoffice is also outdated but it works fine .. |
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| 14:53.43 | jelly-home | there are backports of newer kernel releases if you require them, but they're created less often and may not have the latest security fixes |
| 14:53.47 | jelly-home | ,kernels |
| 14:53.48 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.12-rc7-686-pae (3.12~rc7-1~exp1); sid: 3.11-1-686-pae (3.11.6-2); jessie: 3.10-3-686-pae (3.10.11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.10-0.bpo.3-686-pae (3.10.11-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.51-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.46-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
| 14:54.00 | jelly-home | hurdorbsd: see under wheezy-backports |
| 14:54.09 | hurdorbsd | ok |
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| 14:54.20 | hurdorbsd | what is EOL ? |
| 14:54.25 | hurdorbsd | oh end of life? |
| 14:54.26 | jelly-home | !eol |
| 14:54.26 | dpkg | [eol] end-of-line (aka newline, line break) is a character or sequence of characters indicating the end of a text line; ask me about <dos2unix>. End-of-life, ask me about <lenny>. |
| 14:54.35 | jelly-home | end of life, yes |
| 14:54.46 | hurdorbsd | ya |
| 14:55.04 | hurdorbsd | Can I update to latest debian kernel for wheezy? |
| 14:55.10 | hurdorbsd | Show me how please |
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| 14:55.25 | jelly-home | you already have it |
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| 14:55.35 | jelly-home | hurdorbsd: what does uname -a say? |
| 14:56.52 | hurdorbsd | Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 14:57.05 | jelly-home | that seems to be the latest. |
| 14:57.43 | hurdorbsd | oh so debian uses the oldest kernel which is still maintained |
| 14:58.53 | imau | hurdorbsd: i use sid in my laptop, 4 month instalation no problems until now |
| 14:59.03 | imau | if you want more updated packages feel free to try it |
| 14:59.10 | hurdorbsd | sid? |
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| 14:59.17 | hurdorbsd | ok |
| 14:59.20 | hurdorbsd | I tried it once .. |
| 14:59.22 | bandwith | or debian testing |
| 14:59.28 | jelly-home | hurdorbsd: not really; they pick a version and stick with it for the lifetime of a release |
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| 14:59.53 | bandwith | hurdorbsd: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ |
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| 15:00.58 | hurdorbsd | so jelly-home the next version could be 3.8 or even 3.10 .. they don't go a step up everytime |
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| 15:01.48 | jelly-home | hurdorbsd: if the release was frozen today, 3.10 would be a decent candidate as it's deemed longterm |
| 15:02.03 | hurdorbsd | ya |
| 15:02.13 | hurdorbsd | I get it .. |
| 15:02.16 | jelly-home | but who knows what's going to happen until the freeze which is a year from now |
| 15:02.26 | hurdorbsd | When is the nest release coming ?? |
| 15:02.30 | hurdorbsd | Do you have the schedule? |
| 15:02.56 | jelly-home | hurdorbsd: hell no. See http://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html |
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| 15:07.59 | hurdorbsd | omg |
| 15:08.02 | albert | saludos |
| 15:08.18 | albert | alguien sabe como cerrar una sesion abierta en tty8 pero sin tener que cerrar la del usuario de la tty7? |
| 15:08.21 | jelly-home | !es |
| 15:08.22 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 15:08.28 | albert | uops sorry |
| 15:08.35 | hurdorbsd | debian is for patient people |
| 15:09.54 | albert | anybody knows how can i close the sesion of tty8 but not the sesion of tty7? |
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| 15:10.17 | albert | with a command line |
| 15:10.19 | jelly-home | albert: what happens if you log off tty8 but not tty7? |
| 15:10.55 | albert | jelly-home: session of tty8 crashed and i want to kill this user without reboot the sistem |
| 15:10.58 | albert | system* |
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| 15:12.15 | zophy | asta maljuenos |
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| 15:12.23 | albert | i want to close the sesion of one user, but i can't go to tty8 to choose this option |
| 15:13.25 | albert | i can't use the "change user" tool because if I enter to the another user then it show the crashed desktop |
| 15:14.25 | albert | jelly-home: I can't log off tty8 because tty8 is crashed |
| 15:15.00 | jelly-home | albert: yeah, that's weird. Are there any processes still bound to tty8? |
| 15:15.06 | albert | the easy way is reboot the system, but i'd like to know how can i do it |
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| 15:23.09 | albert | jelly-home: I did ps t tty8 and it shows one line |
| 15:23.41 | mumpitzel | kill the process then |
| 15:24.10 | honestly | can anyone tell me how to get pam_cap capabilities to work in debian? trying to work through the pampart in this, but can't get it to work: http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2009/05/linux-security-capabilities.html |
| 15:24.16 | honestly | (on wheezy) |
| 15:24.33 | albert | oh yeah mumpitzel |
| 15:24.42 | albert | thank you jelly-home and mumpitzel ! |
| 15:24.57 | albert | i learned somethings doing it |
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| 15:26.11 | xrosnight | hello gusy |
| 15:26.20 | xrosnight | guys |
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| 15:27.12 | xrosnight | anyone knows how to unzip tar GBK files which is tar-ed on windows ???????????? |
| 15:27.12 | xrosnight | many thanks |
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| 15:27.35 | mumpitzel | xrosnight: please run "file <tar file>" and tell us the output |
| 15:27.44 | xrosnight | i mean extract tar-ed files ( tar-efd on windowns ) |
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| 15:28.13 | mumpitzel | xrosnight: please run "file <tar file>" and tell us the output |
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| 15:28.49 | xrosnight | output is xxxx.tar: tar archive |
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| 15:29.12 | mumpitzel | so you know what to use: tar |
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| 15:30.05 | xrosnight | mumpitzel: but the file was tar-ed on windows in zh_CN.GBK while all are in unicode on Linux |
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| 15:35.49 | bluesm | If I change /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:36.10 | bluesm | it will automatically get new (or omit deleted) sources in the next "apt-get update" ? |
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| 15:38.10 | toni_ | bluesm: yes - did you try it out? |
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| 15:40.29 | hurdorbsd | Did any one try Point Linux or Crunchbang 11 based on Debian Stable? |
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| 15:47.30 | ska | 2nd install on macpro, not going too well. First install booted once. |
| 15:47.51 | ska | but cound not get it 2nd time. |
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| 15:49.51 | ska | I have an EFI boot partition, but not sure how that is used.. I tried mounting that at /boot but the installer removed that mountpoint. |
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| 15:53.46 | bluesm | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:55.04 | mumpitzel | bluesm: what is the output of apt-cache policy? |
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| 15:55.55 | bluesm | https://gist.github.com/bluesm/7386814 |
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| 15:56.13 | bluesm | mumpitzel: ^ |
| 15:56.31 | mumpitzel | bluesm: cd /etc/apt/;grep -r google * |
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| 15:56.42 | mumpitzel | and you will probably see a file inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
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| 15:58.51 | bluesm | mumpitzel: Yeah. |
| 15:59.35 | mumpitzel | so you still have them in your sources.list |
| 15:59.58 | mumpitzel | btw: you need a proper wheezy sources.list or you will be vulnerable sooner or later. /msg dpkg wheezy sources.list |
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| 16:01.24 | bluesm | mumpitzel: Could you explain me what is this ? It seems that those files contains sources links to the third-party apps... |
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| 16:04.54 | mumpitzel | bluesm: they are sources.list entries like any other. but easier to add by 3rd party apps, yes |
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| 16:05.29 | bluesm | mumpitzel: "easier" ? |
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| 16:06.13 | mumpitzel | a installscript cannot easily edit sources.list directly to add and delete a repo. adding and deleting a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ however is very easy |
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| 16:07.56 | bluesm | mumpitzel: You mean that it is easier for program to "create new file" than operate on file, and it is safer because program could at most mess up with it's own file, not with entire system file of sources ? |
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| 16:11.00 | peto | hello, during changes in my startscripts, I accidentally delete all remote_fs from /etc/rcS.d. Could you, please, provide me with output like fgrep -R remote_fs /etc/rcS.d/ ? |
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| 16:19.51 | TomasCZ | peto: update-rc.d remote_fs enable |
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| 16:24.59 | peto | TomasCZ: it is not the real problem, I cannot enable it :-/ |
| 16:25.11 | peto | TomasCZ: I removed that dependency |
| 16:25.31 | peto | TomasCZ: (or it as dependency) |
| 16:26.37 | mumpitzel | doesn't really help. your initscripts aren't the same ones I use or TomasCZ uess |
| 16:27.11 | peto | mumpitzel: I have only base system on jessie |
| 16:27.24 | peto | mumpitzel: everyone should have the same subset |
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| 16:28.03 | peto | (base system = installed from debootstrap) |
| 16:28.08 | honestly | urgh. libpam_cap applies permissions set in /etc/security/capabilities.conf to the login shell, as capsh --decode tells. but those permissions aren't passed on to processes started from the shell. what's missing? |
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| 16:31.02 | honestly | here is a bit of log to support my case: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6388817/ |
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| 16:32.50 | honestly | my google fu is failing to find anything except an old bug report from 2008 |
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| 16:33.50 | honestly | 2011, actually - http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=633991 |
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| 16:52.56 | vicatcu | hey all, how do i add a ppa repository to my debian installation? add-apt-repository doesn't seem to work even after i do sudo apt-get install python-software-properties |
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| 16:54.32 | mumpitzel | vicatcu: debian has no PPAs |
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| 16:54.40 | drasko_ | hi all, after update my tftp server stopped working |
| 16:54.46 | drasko_ | where to look for the debug? |
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| 16:55.02 | mumpitzel | drasko_: sylog and /var/log in general |
| 16:55.18 | vicatcu | hm... |
| 16:55.32 | mumpitzel | !tell vicatcu about ppa |
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| 16:55.52 | drasko_ | mumpitzel, I can not find no tftp log there |
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| 16:56.07 | drasko_ | I have TFTP error: 'File not found' (1) |
| 16:56.10 | drasko_ | On the client side |
| 16:56.13 | vicatcu | mumpitzel hm interesting |
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| 16:56.24 | drasko_ | Bu I am sure I have set good permissions... |
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| 16:56.32 | hurdorbsd | hi |
| 16:56.40 | mumpitzel | drasko_: file not found doesn't sound like "permission denied" |
| 16:56.45 | mumpitzel | a 404 is not a 403 either |
| 16:56.45 | eax | Hi there! I am trying to get my /dev/sdb1 partition mounted at boot. I have added the following to my /etc/fstab, but it is not working. can anyone see what is wrong? Thanks! /dev/sdb1 /media/backup ext3 default 0 0 |
| 16:56.53 | vicatcu | i want to try and set up a discourse forum though... https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-ubuntu.md |
| 16:57.04 | hurdorbsd | any one using crunchbang or point linux? Debian based distros |
| 16:57.16 | biketron | are you shure that your sdb is ext3 FS? |
| 16:57.17 | mumpitzel | eax: add ",auto" to default |
| 16:57.32 | mumpitzel | hurdorbsd: this is offtopic in #debian |
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| 16:57.47 | mumpitzel | eax: and check first if "mount /media/backup" works as intended |
| 16:58.06 | husonet | hello |
| 16:58.23 | eax | mumpitzel: Thanks! That command does not work. I get 'wrong fs type' :S Weird, I thought I tested to look at it :( |
| 16:58.30 | husonet | I use proxy server nginx on wheezy |
| 16:58.31 | eax | How can I determine what FS I am using? |
| 16:58.34 | mumpitzel | eax: file -s /dev/sdb1 |
| 16:58.35 | husonet | 2013/11/09 18:50:19 [error] 11041#0: *8292 upstream prematurely closed connection while reading response header from upstream |
| 16:58.49 | eax | mumpitzel: thanks, bhm, weird, it is ext3 :S |
| 16:59.08 | hurdorbsd | ok mumpitzel both crunchbang and point linux are debian stable only with a makeover |
| 16:59.19 | mumpitzel | hurdorbsd: no they are not |
| 16:59.23 | mumpitzel | !tell hurdorbsd about based on debian |
| 16:59.53 | mumpitzel | hurdorbsd: if you want to talk about either of them, go to their appropriate channels or ##linux |
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| 17:00.10 | hurdorbsd | Ya I know |
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| 17:00.19 | mumpitzel | if you know then please stop with the above |
| 17:00.29 | hurdorbsd | Just trying different stuff with Debian Stable |
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| 17:00.39 | hurdorbsd | Ok |
| 17:00.41 | hurdorbsd | Sorry |
| 17:00.52 | eax | mumpitzel: hm, didn't work :S And the mount /media/backup also fails, with "wrong fs type" Which is weird |
| 17:01.17 | hurdorbsd | I am in love with Debian but I also want updated apps ( like office and other apps ) out of the box |
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| 17:02.14 | drasko_ | mumpitzel, these permissions: http://pastebin.com/q22J90VH look good to me... |
| 17:02.20 | forcer | hurdorbsd: Use testing or unstable |
| 17:02.44 | CissWit | hurdorbsd: you either can try debian unstable, check if there's backports for apps you need |
| 17:02.56 | CissWit | or switch to an other distribution |
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| 17:03.27 | eax | mumpitzel: got it working, thanks! <3 |
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| 17:05.49 | hurdorbsd | ya .. I get it guys .. CissWit I found a few Debian Stable OS with a little makeover |
| 17:05.51 | biketron | so what was your Prob now? |
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| 17:06.47 | hurdorbsd | Nothing |
| 17:07.07 | zykotick9 | hurdorbsd: don't deceive yourself, only Debian is Debian. everything else is just "based on debian" |
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| 17:08.04 | hurdorbsd | zykotick9 .. Debian is Debian but if some1 clearly says Debian under the hood or Debian Makeover OS then ? |
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| 17:08.17 | hurdorbsd | Tht too they ship it with Debian Stable only |
| 17:08.26 | hurdorbsd | nothing else no testing or unstable |
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| 17:09.41 | hurdorbsd | but I love the way Debian has released XFCE version |
| 17:09.55 | hurdorbsd | I like Gnome and XFCE so much |
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| 17:11.12 | daemonkeeper | Debian supports XFCE since ages. |
| 17:11.14 | daemonkeeper | Just like Gnome. |
| 17:11.17 | mumpitzel | drasko_: I told you before: a 404 is no 403 and a file not found is not a permission denied |
| 17:12.10 | hurdorbsd | oh .. Was the XFCE iso also made avail since ages? I didn't know |
| 17:12.15 | daemonkeeper | Yes. |
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| 17:13.00 | daemonkeeper | Actually, it disappeared now, rather than appearing. |
| 17:13.12 | fishcooker | h9@server24:~$ pkill -u $USER |
| 17:13.12 | fishcooker | Cannot find /proc/version - is /proc mounted? |
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| 17:13.56 | drasko_ | mumpitzel, what the hell is happening then. There is no reason that it does not work... http://pastebin.com/TyY64Lhy |
| 17:14.03 | fishcooker | it seems i don't have access to kill myself |
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| 17:14.42 | MarinaSofi | hey guys, can anyone shed light what "XATTR, SECURITY, and POSIX_AC" means? |
| 17:14.58 | MarinaSofi | tried googling and made things worst |
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| 17:15.56 | MarinaSofi | now im totally confused, i already have individual packages installed...but i dont get what recompiling the kernel with those attributes mean |
| 17:16.11 | MarinaSofi | is it even possible with Wheezy? |
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| 17:23.51 | MarinaSofi | Help! Skynet is true! This whole channel has been bot-infested... |
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| 17:25.42 | lanchopat | I just installed Debian Wheezy 64bit and realized that I need a proprietary driver for my Ati Radeon RV770 (https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo). But I cannot install firmware-linux-nonfree, the package doesn't seem to exist. What am I doing wrong? |
| 17:25.50 | mumpitzel | everyone knows that dpkg and judd will take over the world |
| 17:26.03 | mumpitzel | !tell lanchopat about non-free |
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| 17:27.07 | lanchopat | Oh, I guess I have to add the repo, right? |
| 17:27.13 | biketron | jepp |
| 17:27.23 | grandie | lanchopat: have you got non-free in your sources list |
| 17:27.30 | biketron | and dont forget the update ;) |
| 17:27.39 | lanchopat | No, that's the problem :) |
| 17:27.57 | grandie | change it and update |
| 17:28.30 | MarinaSofi | mumpitzel: not sudo and apt-get? |
| 17:28.52 | mumpitzel | apt is a 2nd row bot |
| 17:29.25 | MarinaSofi | i see, so the higher order is still dpkg uh |
| 17:29.37 | biketron | wtf |
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| 17:33.59 | caraconan | Hi there. Any suggestion for a simple chess program that allows human vs human? Thanks |
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| 17:35.54 | lanchopat | Cool, it works. Thanks! Debian is great =] |
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| 17:37.14 | mumpitzel | caraconan: apt-cache search chess xboard for example |
| 17:37.31 | caraconan | Playing dreamchess, looks enough. Thanks |
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| 17:45.03 | toni_ | Hi! Can someone please enlighten me about how to re-mount the root file system read-write, after it went read-only due to errors? mount -o remount,rw / doesn't cut it. |
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| 17:45.36 | mumpitzel | toni_: what happens when you run this? |
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| 17:46.24 | toni_ | I get an error message: mount: cannot remount block device /dev/mapper/uv0-root read-write, is write-protected |
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| 17:49.31 | hurdorbsd | mumpitzel is helping people like anything .. Salute Man! |
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| 17:53.43 | mumpitzel | toni_: maybe due to lvm? |
| 17:53.46 | grex25 | Is there any one-liner for installing .deb files from a known url? (no .deb file afterwards) |
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| 17:54.33 | biketron | grex25: testing your packages on my system!? nope xD |
| 17:54.33 | toni_ | mumpitzel: Why should LVM have an influence here? |
| 17:54.33 | relipse | i'm new, how do i find the apache group so i can chgrp my files? |
| 17:55.07 | toni_ | Oh, and who doesn't use LVM these days? |
| 17:55.21 | grex25 | biketron: no, downloading a file from www.xyz.com/file.deb and, installing, and deleting the file then |
| 17:55.49 | toni_ | The machine in question runs Wheezy + ext3. |
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| 17:57.10 | biketron | im not using cause of windows toni_ |
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| 17:58.24 | mumpitzel | toni_: cause normally a filesystem would be just be read-only mounted. yours seems to be a bit confused |
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| 17:58.42 | mumpitzel | toni_: have you actually corrected the problem that caused the ro mount? |
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| 18:00.08 | toni_ | mumpitzel: I can't - it's that which the VM server hands to my machine, and I have no access to that part of the problem. But the operator says that there is no problem in that part of the machine. |
| 18:00.10 | biketron | mumpitzel: since wich date is your RFS read only? i have had write permissions as long as i can think back |
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| 18:03.57 | e-anima | i got a really strange problem. my aliases in my .bashrc only work if i do source ~/.bashrc. i restarted the server...they wont work until source.. |
| 18:03.59 | e-anima | i dont get it |
| 18:04.05 | e-anima | is there something new in wheezy? |
| 18:04.21 | e-anima | i am logged in as root btw |
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| 18:09.31 | well_laid_lawn | I have in .bash_profile [[ -f ~/.bashrc ]] && . ~/.bashrc |
| 18:09.39 | well_laid_lawn | you might need something similar |
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| 18:09.54 | mumpitzel | toni_: then check your logs why it was mounted ro |
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| 18:10.12 | mumpitzel | toni_: generally that happens due to a fs problem which is fixed with fsck. |
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| 18:10.57 | toni_ | mumpitzel: yes, the file system was mounted r/o since, at some point, the vm host had a problem |
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| 18:11.18 | toni_ | in the logs, i see that this resulted in timeouts accessing the "disk" |
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| 18:16.25 | e-anima | well_laid_lawn was that info for me? |
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| 18:18.10 | e-anima | i guess that answers my question: http://www.joshstaiger.org/archives/2005/07/bash_profile_vs.html |
| 18:18.20 | e-anima | thx well_laid_lawn |
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| 18:20.36 | well_laid_lawn | cheers |
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| 18:26.01 | Gremble | I am root, trying to edit my sources.list. I edited it fine once, but for some odd reason it has changed to readonly now even though I am root and chown is not allowing me to revert the ownership again |
| 18:26.10 | Gremble | How do I remedy this? |
| 18:26.48 | mtn | Gremble: do you have it open it two places by any chance? |
| 18:26.58 | mtn | it=in |
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| 18:28.09 | Gremble | No, there are no places for me to have it open. restarting the system to see if that would help |
| 18:28.35 | Gremble | Eh |
| 18:28.41 | Gremble | problem solved |
| 18:28.43 | unborn | heh |
| 18:28.51 | unborn | Gremble, what was it? |
| 18:29.03 | Gremble | I have no idea |
| 18:29.09 | unborn | :D |
| 18:29.17 | mtn | magic! |
| 18:29.21 | Gremble | Linux magic |
| 18:29.33 | toni_ | btw, the other partitions in that volume-group are still rw |
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| 18:43.17 | Razkin | Hey guys, I was converting a video from flv to pal-vob with ffmpeg/avconv yesterday, but I stopped the process at 1:08:02, is there any way I could start converting again right from where I stopped? from 1:08:02? |
| 18:43.29 | Monotoko | what's the best way to forward a connection? For example someone comes in on port 8080 on a server and I want to be able to hand them off to another server, but internally (192.168) |
| 18:43.47 | Monotoko | so the server it's handing off to... I don't want exposed |
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| 18:45.18 | Rubin | how do you refresh /dev/disk/by-uuid without a reboot? |
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| 18:50.14 | Rubin | oh. i see you have to have the filesystem first :) then udevadm trigger works |
| 18:50.16 | Rubin | n/m :) |
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| 19:08.54 | galex-713 | What do you see: |
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| 19:09.23 | galex-713 | and ? |
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| 19:19.41 | ffog | dumb question, I pulled up a virtual machine where I'm logged in as user but I can't remember the password. I remember root, I can change the pwd but I'd like to know what it is. Am I screwed? |
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| 19:20.09 | Monotoko | ffog, no way to find out the password |
| 19:20.14 | Monotoko | you'll just have to change it |
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| 19:21.05 | ffog | ok thanks :) |
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| 19:24.17 | ompaul | ffog: you could muck around with jack the ripper but if the password is of moderate complexity you could be waiting quite a while |
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| 19:25.36 | ffog | yea I haven't used jack the ripper before, seems not worth it since i can just change it. could be interesting to try though |
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| 19:37.58 | foureyes779 | anyone know the channel name for debian on a Mac ? |
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| 19:41.20 | remoteCTRL | hi guys! |
| 19:41.48 | peterrooney | foureyes779: #debianppc |
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| 19:42.03 | foureyes779 | peterrooney: tnx amigo |
| 19:42.03 | peterrooney | foureyes779: at least, for the older macs |
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| 19:42.35 | remoteCTRL | unfortunately the upgrade from squeeze to wheezy left my server a burning pile of brown matter, that wont boot anymore... |
| 19:42.36 | remoteCTRL | need grub and mdadm brain0rs, pls! |
| 19:42.37 | foureyes779 | peterrooney: im using a PowerBook G4. |
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| 19:51.32 | hurdorbsd | most lightweight video player for debian ?? VLC makes my laptop cry when playing 720p videos |
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| 19:53.34 | ompaul | hurdorbsd: get more ram |
| 19:53.51 | hurdorbsd | I have 6 gigs of ram |
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| 19:54.37 | hurdorbsd | outta which only 800 is used .. 5 gig is free anytime and Swap is alone for like forever no use of it .. |
| 19:54.47 | hurdorbsd | I have a weak processor |
| 19:54.58 | ompaul | so your six gigs are wasted |
| 19:55.23 | ompaul | run at a lower resolution |
| 19:55.48 | hurdorbsd | do you know any light weight alt for VLC? |
| 19:55.50 | ompaul | kill x and run vlc no X package version |
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| 19:56.54 | hurdorbsd | Ok .. I would try |
| 19:57.25 | ompaul | but running your debian in a vm makes kittens cry? ;-) |
| 19:57.50 | hurdorbsd | I am running it as a full time OS |
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| 19:58.22 | hurdorbsd | Debian is the fastest .. and thinks are old but shine like Gold |
| 19:58.24 | hurdorbsd | :p |
| 19:58.37 | mumpitzel | hurdorbsd: what videocard do you have? |
| 19:58.50 | mumpitzel | and what CPU? |
| 19:59.21 | CissWit | [20:56:08] hurdorbsd │ do you know any light weight alt for VLC? <- ssh ? :) |
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| 19:59.41 | CissWit | if you do really need X app, you can use X forwarding within ssh to use them |
| 20:00.09 | arietis | someone help please |
| 20:00.43 | arietis | dpkg: error processing udev (--configure): package udev is not ready for configuration cannot configure (current status `half-installed') Segmentation fault |
| 20:00.43 | dpkg | arietis: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 20:01.20 | arietis | i tried to purge package but same error |
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| 20:02.04 | blocky_ | #debian-next normally invite only? |
| 20:02.40 | mumpitzel | blocky_: itc.oftc.net |
| 20:02.47 | mumpitzel | blocky_: irc.oftc.net |
| 20:02.56 | blocky_ | ah |
| 20:03.36 | blocky_ | ty |
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| 20:04.03 | arietis | nevermind found it |
| 20:04.12 | arietis | dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq --remove udev solved issue |
| 20:04.12 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, arietis |
| 20:04.15 | hurdorbsd | mumpitzel I have AMD C-60 APU 1 GHZ x 2 ( Dual Core ) with HD 6290 Graphics |
| 20:04.30 | mumpitzel | arietis: removing udev is not a good idea |
| 20:04.39 | arietis | i did reinstall :) |
| 20:05.13 | arietis | i had sid installed |
| 20:05.27 | arietis | so i switched back to stable and got udev broken |
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| 20:05.40 | arietis | now it works |
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| 20:06.14 | Lorcatar | Hola, I pressed ctrl + alt + f1 How can I get back to gui? |
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| 20:06.29 | zykotick9 | Lorcatar: alt+f7 |
| 20:06.51 | mumpitzel | arietis: you canot switch back |
| 20:07.11 | Lorcatar | that didn't do anything zykotick9: It just sent me to some blank screen. |
| 20:07.16 | arietis | mumpitzel: of course i can |
| 20:07.48 | arietis | i mean i changed packages repo |
| 20:08.04 | arietis | from unstable to stable |
| 20:08.14 | arietis | and did full upgrade |
| 20:08.15 | zykotick9 | Lorcatar: did you stop X/DM? try alt+f8 as well |
| 20:08.41 | Lorcatar | that worked thanks zykotick9 |
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| 20:09.59 | peterrooney | is wondering how that is even possible |
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| 20:11.10 | mumpitzel | arietis: apt will not downgrade anything. so no, you can not |
| 20:11.14 | mumpitzel | !tell arietis about downgrade |
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| 20:11.41 | mumpitzel | arietis: you still have tons of unstable packages there |
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| 20:12.11 | arietis | mumpitzel: that's fine for me |
| 20:12.27 | arietis | i just don't want any new unstable ones :) |
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| 20:13.40 | peterrooney | arietis: /msg dpkg frankendebian |
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| 20:16.03 | remoteCTRL | ever since i upgraded my debian to wheezy my server doesnt boot anymore, but remains at a grub input prompt that looks like this: http://postimg.org/image/6t8lfmsxj/full/ any help appreciated! |
| 20:16.11 | babilen | arietis: Your best (and only) hope is to start tracking testing. You can either wait it out or pin testing to a priority >= 1001 and dist-upgrade which might or might not work out (given that downgrades are not supported) -- I made okayish experiences with the latter though. A downgrade to stable is almost certainly impossible. |
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| 20:16.58 | ziyagi | Is it possible to boot off a thumb drive which doesn't have a partition table? Or is a partition table more or less required if you intend to boot from something? I ask because apparently formatting a totally empty flash drive in Windows neglects to create a partition table, but rather just build a filesystem on the device. |
| 20:17.05 | mumpitzel | !tell remoteCTRL about fixboot |
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| 20:18.12 | remoteCTRL | mumpitzel: thanks for that, but i already did that... |
| 20:18.20 | Lorcatar | Hello is there a way to play moria without having a numpad? I would like to use hjkl yu and bn |
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| 20:18.46 | Lorcatar | I didn't know where else to ask. I tried debian since I am using that distro and repository to download the game. |
| 20:18.50 | mumpitzel | remoteCTRL: do it and run osprober. also, where did you install your grub with grub-install to? |
| 20:19.25 | remoteCTRL | mumpitzel: I EVEN DID A mdadm --detail --scan > mdadm.conf BEFoops sry before that |
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| 20:19.54 | remoteCTRL | mumpitzel: may i explain the whole setup, pls? cos i got one major stupidity in there... |
| 20:20.02 | mumpitzel | I guess |
| 20:20.27 | remoteCTRL | i have two disks with 400gb and i wanted to clonen them, so mirrored raid volume |
| 20:20.49 | Lorcatar | What is the easiest way to swap control and caps using wheezy? I tried the guide located on emacs wiki but that didn't work... |
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| 20:22.13 | remoteCTRL | somehow, and please dont ask me how i managed to do that, instead of ending up with one cloned disk with three partitions; /boot, /, swap, i ended um with three raid arrays containing each a / a /bott and a swap... |
| 20:22.15 | jhutchins_wk | Lorcatar: First, moria: Is that a debian package? |
| 20:22.55 | remoteCTRL | so whe i upgraded i got the error, that msdadm wouldnt find a mdadm.conf in /etc so i as descritbed above i created one |
| 20:23.15 | SerajewelKS | is there some kind of weird incompatibility between Xvnc and the tightvnc viewer? i am running the server with -SecurityTypes None and the client still prompts for a password. it will not accept any password, not even the one in ~/.vnc/passwd |
| 20:23.25 | remoteCTRL | setup also did not upgrade the fimrware for the realtec ethernet adapter, so i installed that one manually |
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| 20:24.22 | jhutchins_wk | SerajewelKS: There's no inherent incompatibility, but they can default to different options and protocols. You have to read the docs for each one to figure out what's going on - sometime you have to dig pretty deep. |
| 20:24.34 | remoteCTRL | after that the initramfs was buil newly so after that i first installed grub to dev/sda and then to /dev/sdb just to make sure, while biso ought to be set to boot from /dev/sdb, undofrtunately i have no way of checking that... |
| 20:24.56 | jhutchins_wk | SerajewelKS: I did that a few years ago to find compatibility with VNC in OSX, but these days I just use console or X forwarding. |
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| 20:25.11 | remoteCTRL | args sry for bad syntax, it is late... |
| 20:25.15 | SerajewelKS | jhutchins_wk: i think i got it... i knew i'd only have to ask here, then i'd figure it out |
| 20:25.36 | f-a_ | good evening. This is a pretty unspecific question, but let's see if I can get some help. Lately my pc (debian wheezy) often freezes, where should I start investigating from? |
| 20:25.44 | remoteCTRL | mumpitzel: all of that went without any errors, but as described, on boot the server now waits for imput at a griub prompt... |
| 20:26.03 | mumpitzel | grub cannot find its stage 1.5/2 |
| 20:26.12 | remoteCTRL | apparently, but why? |
| 20:26.14 | jhutchins_wk | SerajewelKS: Might be worth a blog post or a note to a mailing list detailing what steps it took. |
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| 20:26.27 | SerajewelKS | jhutchins_wk: nah it was silly. i was reading the port number from the server output. |
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| 20:26.49 | SerajewelKS | jhutchins_wk: but the port number i saw was from the gnome vino server, which i had not yet configured. the port Xvnc was listening on was further up in the output. |
| 20:27.03 | jhutchins_wk | SerajewelKS: Ah. |
| 20:27.32 | blocky | anybody installed pipelight to use netflix? i added their repo but now it's trying to install libreoffice... |
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| 20:28.31 | blocky | also wants to upgrade grub-common... |
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| 20:30.25 | remoteCTRL | mumpitzel: grub threw the following error during install: http://pastebin.com/Wvi2B4ru |
| 20:30.39 | remoteCTRL | mumpitzel: i dont understadn why it would install it there anyways... |
| 20:31.08 | mumpitzel | so I guess your mdadm.conf is not as proper as it should be |
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| 20:32.25 | remoteCTRL | mumpitzel: it looks like this: http://pastebin.com/8za2bDZD |
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| 20:33.27 | andrew | hi! i installed debian 7 and I installed chromium |
| 20:33.38 | andrew | youtube videos doesen't run |
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| 20:34.05 | andrew | I think the problem is adobe flash player |
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| 20:34.32 | andrew | how cand I install adobe flash player? what I need to type in console? |
| 20:34.35 | andrew | thanks |
| 20:34.39 | Anpu | hi, i m trying to install nvidia driver on debian jessie but failing. Any known procedure how to or anyone to help me out debug the problem? i used guide from wiki.. |
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| 20:35.20 | mumpitzel | !tell andrew about adobe flash |
| 20:35.29 | andrew | what I need to type in console for installing adobe flash player (chromium)? |
| 20:35.30 | mumpitzel | !tell Anpu about nvidia dkms |
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| 20:35.55 | andrew | mumpitzel, I have chromium and yoube videos doesen't work |
| 20:36.09 | andrew | I think that the problem is adobe flash player |
| 20:36.11 | mumpitzel | andrew: read what dpkg sent you |
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| 20:37.31 | andrew | mumpitzel, "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" don't work |
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| 20:37.41 | remoteCTRL | andrew: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 20:38.02 | mumpitzel | andrew: and only if you have non-free repo in your sources.list |
| 20:38.19 | Anpu | mumpitzel: I already did that but no help. either i need to remove corg.conf and load kde in 1024x768 or i m in terminal with no x |
| 20:38.56 | mumpitzel | Anpu: dpkg -l |grep nvidia |
| 20:39.05 | andrew | remoteCTRL: "flashplugin has no installation candidate" |
| 20:39.12 | andrew | mumpitzel |
| 20:39.15 | mumpitzel | andrew: you need non-free repos |
| 20:39.39 | Anpu | mumpitzel: http://pastie.org/8468509 |
| 20:39.47 | andrew | how can I edit sources.list for adding repo's? |
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| 20:40.01 | Anpu | nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:40.02 | mumpitzel | andrew: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 20:40.34 | mumpitzel | Anpu: what videocard? what does Xorg.0.log say when X doesn't start with the nvidia drivers? |
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| 20:40.54 | andrew | mumpitzel: Ok, and now? |
| 20:40.58 | andrew | what I need to add? |
| 20:40.59 | Anpu | mumpitzel: 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] (rev a2) |
| 20:41.02 | andrew | or to delete? |
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| 20:41.31 | mumpitzel | !tell andrew about non-free |
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| 20:41.44 | mumpitzel | !tell andrew about non-free sources |
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| 20:43.26 | remoteCTRL | mumpitzel: wont i neet /boot also mounted into that image before i chroot into it? |
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| 20:43.34 | Anpu | mumpitzel: http://pastie.org/8468511 this is last bunch of lines (not whole) |
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| 20:44.14 | Anpu | basically in the end comlains of not having monitor(?) |
| 20:44.25 | Anpu | this is laptop btw, HP Pavilion |
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| 20:46.47 | mumpitzel | remoteCTRL: if /boot/ is on another partition then yes |
| 20:47.21 | remoteCTRL | as described above, yes it is, i am just doing it again, lets see, what that does... |
| 20:47.27 | mumpitzel | Anpu: read lines 24-28 |
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| 20:47.36 | mumpitzel | ,info nvidia-glx |
| 20:47.38 | judd | Package nvidia-glx (non-free/x11, optional) in wheezy/i386: NVIDIA metapackage. Version: 304.88-1+deb7u1; Size: 340.5k; Installed: 920k; Homepage: http://www.nvidia.com |
| 20:47.44 | andrew | it worked, thank you mumpitzel |
| 20:47.52 | mumpitzel | Anpu: use the nvidia drivers from wheezy |
| 20:48.01 | mumpitzel | ,v nvidia-glx |
| 20:48.03 | judd | Package: nvidia-glx on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.88-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 304.108-4~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 319.60-2; sid/non-free: 319.60-3; experimental/non-free: 331.20-1 |
| 20:48.58 | remoteCTRL | mumpitzel: ok, reboot, drumrolls... |
| 20:49.27 | Anpu | mumpitzel: ok so step 1 is to add wheezy backports/non-free then install 304 or am i wrong? |
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| 20:49.34 | Anpu | add to sources* |
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| 20:50.49 | remoteCTRL | mumpitzel: i did the trick, server back up and running, thanks dude... :) |
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| 20:51.58 | Ivann | Hey, I'm having trouble installing Debian |
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| 20:52.35 | Ivann | The installation isn't detecting my ethernet card I217-LM |
| 20:52.50 | Ivann | "Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I217-LM (rev 05)" |
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| 20:54.50 | Kobaz | soooooo, what can i do if resume from suspend-to-ram leads to no video (but a functional system otherewise) |
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| 20:55.33 | shafire | hi |
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| 20:55.45 | shafire | I created a bridge, but now I can not resolv any domain |
| 20:56.10 | mumpitzel | Anpu: basically yes |
| 20:56.25 | mumpitzel | Kobaz: what video driver? |
| 20:56.28 | Kobaz | intel |
| 20:56.39 | Kobaz | shafire: check yoru dns server settings |
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| 20:57.02 | shafire | Kobaz: looks okay... |
| 20:57.08 | Kobaz | mumpitzel: i tried all the suspend quirk options too |
| 20:57.12 | mumpitzel | shafire: ping your dns server then |
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| 20:57.35 | shafire | mumpitzel: oh don't work |
| 20:57.45 | Kobaz | suspend used to work on 2.6 and early 3.x kernels |
| 20:57.49 | mumpitzel | then you messed up your routing |
| 20:57.54 | Kobaz | well, it;'s more the resume than the suspend |
| 20:58.09 | shafire | mumpitzel: thanks |
| 20:58.31 | Kobaz | shafire: your bridge must have the ip address you're using, and your raw network devices should be 0.0.0.0 and promiscuous |
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| 21:04.14 | Kobaz | df |
| 21:04.29 | shafire | Kobaz: okay, how can I make the computer with the bridge listen to an ip? |
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| 21:04.45 | Kobaz | ifconfig br0 |
| 21:04.56 | Kobaz | set your ips(s) on that |
| 21:05.12 | Kobaz | or which ever device your bridge is |
| 21:06.49 | shafire | I can ping out, but I can not ping the pc with the br0 |
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| 21:15.58 | DexterF | hi |
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| 21:16.16 | DexterF | can one shift an ssh-X-fwd to another Xserver? |
| 21:16.58 | elkingrey | The macbook wiki seems a bit dated. I'd like to installed debian wheezy on a macbook that is like 3 years old. What are the chances that I could simply use a thumb drive and install from that? I guess there is no bios to change the boot order. Anybody here have experience installing debian without ANY non-free software and gettinig a macbook to run well? |
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| 21:17.33 | xand | elkingrey: you boot from USB on a mac by holding one of the keys when it turns on |
| 21:17.33 | Pucilowski | I have installed debian on my computer selecting a Danish keyboard layout with the expectation that ctrl+alt+2 will output @, instead i have to use shift+2, how do I fix this? |
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| 21:17.37 | xand | I don't remember which |
| 21:17.43 | xand | it then brings up a boot menu |
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| 21:25.05 | Lorcatar | How do you tag music? |
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| 21:26.46 | zykotick9 | Lorcatar: at this point, for myself, i use ncmpcpp's tag editor(s). Previously, i used EasyTAG which is a GUI tag editor. |
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| 21:27.05 | Lorcatar | zykotick9: Thank you |
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| 21:29.58 | jnedd | Hi, how can I determine if my computer is 64bit or 32 bit |
| 21:30.20 | Anpu | mumpitzel: well, it turns out it cant be installed. Every time it installs additional packages, it pulls 319 driver which then builds module :-( |
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| 21:30.40 | Anpu | so it looks like i cant install nvidia driver on jessie at all |
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| 21:31.36 | zykotick9 | jnedd: for "computer" research CPU listed in "cat /proc/cpuinfo". for kernel, see "uname -a". for userland, "dpkg --print-architecture" |
| 21:31.37 | Joman92 | jnedd: Do you want to know the architecture of an installed System or of the hardware? |
| 21:31.41 | jnedd | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.45 | angs | what file handles naming the network interfaces when I plug a wifi device? |
| 21:32.09 | jnedd | zykotick9, thx |
| 21:32.12 | jnedd | Joman92, thx |
| 21:32.16 | jnedd | 32 bit eh |
| 21:32.48 | angs | by default, I have two wifi interfaces and no wifi device is plugged. what could be the problem? |
| 21:32.55 | angs | I use debian 7.1 on 3.12 kernel |
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| 21:34.05 | Joman92 | Hey guys, I have a problem with fail2ban under Debian. It will not kick any client. It really does not do anything. I get a new rule in iptables, but thats all |
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| 21:35.04 | dvs | angs: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 21:35.43 | angs | dvs, wlan2 and wlan3 devices are defined there, and I don't have any config on /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:35.56 | angs | my debian somehow has wlan0 and wlan1 registration by default |
| 21:36.12 | angs | what else can I check |
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| 21:38.37 | dvs | angs: Delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot |
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| 21:40.27 | angs | root |
| 21:40.36 | jnedd | when you rsync two directories, is it two way, or do you have to rsync from each computer to get fully synced up |
| 21:41.00 | angs | dvs, I did it, I still have 4 interfaces |
| 21:41.02 | jnedd | sorry...I'll take it to debian-offtopic |
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| 21:42.57 | angs | here is my iwconfig output http://pastebin.com/ndprauaE |
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| 21:43.47 | angs | there is also hwsim0 interface, I don't know what it is. how debian/kernel decides that I have such interfaces |
| 21:43.56 | khaotik | does anyone know if there is a channel for GRUB? |
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| 21:44.16 | angs | did you try #grub |
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| 21:49.29 | mumpitzel | Anpu: it can. you are just doing it wrong |
| 21:49.40 | mumpitzel | Anpu: but you run testing. you should know how to do it |
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| 21:50.58 | Quantum` | Anyone know why lightdm is ignoring my choice of logging in to xfce.... and jamming me into gnome instead? |
| 21:51.22 | mumpitzel | angs: what is the output of lspci -nn and lsusb? |
| 21:51.39 | Quantum` | Worked fine intil I installed network-manager-gnome, which installed all kinds of gnome dependencies. |
| 21:51.47 | mumpitzel | Quantum`: cause you designed gnome to be the default windowmanager? |
| 21:52.20 | mumpitzel | Quantum`: yes, the latest DE installed is used by default. check your x-window-manager in altarnatives |
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| 21:52.26 | Quantum` | mumpitzel: On the login window I use the pulldown to choose xfce, and it ignores me. |
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| 21:52.46 | angs | mumpitzel, here is the output http://pastebin.com/8gT8DPhc |
| 21:53.04 | mumpitzel | Quantum`: create a ~/.xinit |
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| 21:53.23 | mumpitzel | angs: what device is this? |
| 21:53.29 | angs | ifconfig -a outputs that wlan0 and wlan1's hwaddr is 02:00:00:00:01:00 |
| 21:53.30 | mumpitzel | angs: what kind of computer? |
| 21:53.40 | angs | it is an embedded board (beagleboard) |
| 21:53.44 | mumpitzel | angs: and you do have 2 USB wlan devices |
| 21:53.49 | Quantum` | mumpitzel: /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager points to xwfm4. |
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| 21:53.55 | angs | yes I have two wifi devices plugged now |
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| 21:54.22 | sary | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3465892 |
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| 21:54.45 | angs | it seems like there is a config that registers wlan0 and wlan1 for "02:00:00:00:01:00" |
| 21:55.18 | mumpitzel | angs: which beagleboard? |
| 21:55.22 | angs | xM |
| 21:55.32 | angs | C1 revision |
| 21:55.37 | mumpitzel | and you can change what wlan0/1 is by editing the file you deleted above |
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| 21:56.14 | angs | that file only includes wlan2 and wlan3 interfaces, they are the usb devices that I plugged |
| 21:56.37 | angs | there is no wlan0/1 registry in that file |
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| 21:57.36 | dogsilvi | ciao |
| 21:57.44 | dogsilvi | !list |
| 21:57.44 | dpkg | dogsilvi: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.2.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 21:58.54 | dvs | !exit |
| 21:58.54 | dpkg | /quit you fool! |
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| 22:03.10 | sary | sudo ldconfig , didn't sorted out! |
| 22:03.44 | mumpitzel | angs: check your kernel log |
| 22:03.55 | mumpitzel | might show up there, and tell you want the kernel thinks it is |
| 22:04.10 | mumpitzel | or you can just configure wlan2/3 and be done with it |
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| 22:05.07 | dvs | angs: or rename the devices in you 70-persisent-net.rules file |
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| 22:05.40 | angs | dmesg | grep wlan0 or 1 does not output anything |
| 22:06.06 | angs | if I name them with the existing interface name, I guess the interfaces will be named something like "rename4" |
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| 22:09.04 | deStone | at the installer, is it possible to disable floppy drive (for some reason, i am getting stuck cause it cant detect /dev/fd0 |
| 22:09.12 | deStone | (cant disable ffd in bios |
| 22:09.46 | deStone | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:09.57 | deStone | like --disable-floppy |
| 22:09.59 | deStone | or something |
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| 22:10.02 | Quantum` | Anyone know why lightdm is ignoring my choice of logging in to xfce.... and jamming me into gnome instead? |
| 22:11.24 | jnedd | /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s <session-name> |
| 22:11.37 | deStone | fd0=noprobe? |
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| 22:12.13 | sary | http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3465892 |
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| 22:12.20 | jnedd | Quantum`, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=105762 |
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| 22:13.40 | Quantum` | jnedd: studying... |
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| 22:16.03 | Quantum` | jnedd: doesn't work. (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s xfce) |
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| 22:19.57 | justaguy | what is going on with the repo's? 53% [6 Packages 1,310 kB/6,569 kB 19%] 4,446 B/s 19min 42s |
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| 22:20.27 | dvs | justaguy: depend which repo you're using. |
| 22:20.43 | sary | try mirrors.mit.edu/debian |
| 22:21.00 | Quantum` | It's obeying my autologin directive in lightdm.conf. But it's jamming me into gnome even as user-session=xfce |
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| 22:21.18 | bandwith | justaguy: have you restarted the download? |
| 22:22.09 | justaguy | problem fixed |
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| 22:24.57 | Quantum` | Well I guess I have to tear out fscking gnome and give up on networkmanager-applet to get my xfce back. |
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| 22:26.49 | deego | Quantum`: good riddance. :) xfce++ |
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| 22:27.45 | deego | I kept trying to adjust to gnome's and kde's new shenanigans every release. So glad I finally switched :) |
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| 22:34.47 | Quantum` | OK tearing out gnome got me back my xfce. |
| 22:35.11 | Quantum` | But network-mangler only recognizes eth1, not eth0. |
| 22:35.34 | dvs | maybe because eth0 is in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 22:47.25 | stomachh | error: You attempted an operation on a VM which requires PV drivers to be installed but the drivers were not detected. |
| 22:47.59 | stomachh | How do I install on debian? |
| 22:48.02 | stomachh | PV drivers |
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| 23:06.37 | Kakera | I'm trying to install gcc-4.4 but it says "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.11) but it is not going to be installed" (among others), but it's already installed: Installed: 2.11.3-4 |
| 23:06.42 | Kakera | what could be causing this? |
| 23:08.56 | dvs | squeeze is about to run out of support |
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| 23:16.14 | jned | I have a disk utility that shows my disk health, what is the program name to install it on another computer. When I do about it just says red hat disk utility |
| 23:17.03 | dvs | smartmontools? |
| 23:17.40 | jned | dvs, thx, I think it might gnome-disk-utility |
| 23:17.47 | Ghost_In_Zshell | It's not gnome-disk-utility? |
| 23:18.08 | jned | Ghost_In_Zshell, thx |
| 23:19.01 | zykotick9 | dvs: while Ghost_In_Zshell is "correct" in this case - i think you gave the "right" answer ;) |
| 23:20.16 | jned | When I run the disk utility it shows me: SMART Status: DISK FAILURE IS IMMINENT |
| 23:20.24 | Ghost_In_Zshell | That's ominous. |
| 23:20.30 | dvs | so.......? |
| 23:20.48 | fossterer | hi ! If I install Mozilla Firefox by downloading .deb, do I get updates regularly? - on debian |
| 23:21.00 | dvs | fossterer: no |
| 23:21.01 | zykotick9 | fossterer: NO |
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| 23:21.48 | fossterer | so I should only stick t the debian repos if I have to get updates? |
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| 23:21.58 | fossterer | for any software.. |
| 23:22.04 | zykotick9 | fossterer: YES |
| 23:22.11 | jned | if I want to fix errors on a disk, how would I go about that? |
| 23:22.12 | dvs | fossterer: YES!!!! |
| 23:22.33 | Ghost_In_Zshell | Depends. If it's bad blocks - fsck? |
| 23:22.48 | dvs | jned: I'd heed the ominus message |
| 23:23.03 | sylencecc | hi! after upgrading my debian installation to recent testing, some fonts aren't working anymore. i installed the artwiz fonts a while ago (bitmap fonts), they show up in fc-list and in programs like inkscape, but they just look like Sans...andy idea? bitmap fonts are enabled. |
| 23:23.18 | fossterer | What if I added their ppa to sources.list? |
| 23:23.29 | jned | dvs, thx, and what other cases are there? |
| 23:23.45 | zykotick9 | fossterer: ppa in sources.list - oh man you're in for trouble... |
| 23:24.03 | jned | dvs, so it's dead eh |
| 23:24.10 | dvs | yup\ |
| 23:24.12 | jned | Ghost_In_Zshell, , thx, and what other cases are there? |
| 23:25.13 | fossterer | zykotick9: But why? |
| 23:25.21 | jned | its wierd, cause, the option to check and repair disks is only available when you mounted, but when you try to run that option it says resource busy |
| 23:25.25 | zykotick9 | jned: i agree with dvs - if smartmontools is saying "failure imminent", expect it to fail! |
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| 23:26.04 | zykotick9 | fossterer: PPAs are for ubuntu, yet you are asking in #debian. what Distro are you using? |
| 23:26.14 | jned | zykotick9, yeah true, its already failing, but no way to fix it now, its garbage eh |
| 23:26.28 | Ghost_In_Zshell | jned: Well my hard-coded reaction to seeing imminent failure reports from SMART is to rsync /home and /etc to a backup and Amazon Prime myself a new drive. |
| 23:26.32 | crash_ | i had debian wheezy and xfce as desktop environment, but i upgraded to testing and now gnome has taking everything over. |
| 23:27.03 | zykotick9 | crash_: s/upgraded/transitioned/ |
| 23:27.04 | jned | Ghost_In_Zshell, I already backup what I could, I would just like to fix it if I could |
| 23:27.41 | jned | crash_, gnome is awesome, I was sticking with xfce4 for while but gnome is great if you have a working graphics ddriver |
| 23:27.46 | fossterer | zykotick9: ohh.. My bad! I was using Ubuntu for the last 2 years.. So I called it that way... I turned to Debian a week ago :) |
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| 23:28.15 | zykotick9 | fossterer: well, rule #1 debian != ubuntu |
| 23:28.18 | fossterer | zykotick9: Then what is its equivalent in debian? I mean adding to sources.list |
| 23:28.28 | crash_ | jned, yeah i got nothing against gnome, but i had xfce and i would prefer if that is the one that boots up instead of gnome :) |
| 23:28.32 | fossterer | zykotick9: More rules please... |
| 23:28.41 | zykotick9 | fossterer: thankfully, there isn't a direct equivalant right now |
| 23:29.01 | jned | crash_, just remove gnome then |
| 23:29.31 | fossterer | So I can't add third-party repos? |
| 23:29.54 | crash_ | jned, yeah that is a way todo it :P |
| 23:30.00 | jned | crash_, also, gdm3 or even lightdm should select the previously selected desktp environment as your default, so if you log in once to xfce, it will do the same second time |
| 23:30.31 | crash_ | jned, if i choose xfce4 it still boots up gnome instead of xfce4 |
| 23:31.04 | zykotick9 | fossterer: you can, but it's NOT debian. and it's NOT a good idea. |
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| 23:31.34 | jned | crash_, yeah right, wierd, cause they both use the same something on the low lever or somethig eh, but I can boot into xfce4 here no problem, not sure what happen over there, what display manager? |
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| 23:31.58 | elvora | df 0kh |
| 23:32.17 | crash_ | jned, i'm using lightdm, but i will try to remove gnome instead, that should fix it. |
| 23:32.37 | jned | crash_, or you can install gdm3 |
| 23:32.59 | jned | or you can manually set the default with lightdm |
| 23:33.51 | crash_ | jned, ok thanks i will try to thinker and see if i can fix it :) |
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| 23:34.16 | fossterer | zykotick9: I get that.. the whole point of stability... DEBIAN :) |
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| 23:35.01 | zykotick9 | fossterer: sorry i also should have added "and it's NOT supported in #debian" ;) |
| 23:36.06 | zykotick9 | fossterer: fyi, i'm an ubuntu migrant myself, just a couple of years ahead of you ;) |
| 23:36.36 | fossterer | ubuntu migrant? you mean FROM ubuntu to DEBIAN? |
| 23:36.46 | zykotick9 | obviously... |
| 23:36.58 | fossterer | dude.. howz life here? |
| 23:37.33 | zykotick9 | lol, i don't miss ubuntu - that's for sure! but i don't have the "typical" ubuntu mindframe/mindset... YMMV |
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| 23:38.41 | zykotick9 | values stability (both debian/and non-debian meanings of that word). i don't use testing/unsatable. |
| 23:39.00 | fossterer | Obviously I am horrified to see my system look dorky all of a sudden.. I had a different picture of Gnome DE (hmm.. 3.6/3.8 looks) earlier :P |
| 23:40.32 | fossterer | ohh.. valuing stability.. just let me know.. are you a strict follower of debian - for personal system too? |
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| 23:41.18 | FreezingCold | So I ran 'depmod -a' |
| 23:41.18 | zykotick9 | fossterer: oh ya, i use Debian (read "stable") on my desktop and netbooks |
| 23:41.38 | FreezingCold | and I can clearly see my module is in /lib/module/3.0.36+ and uname -r reports 3.0.36+ , but I can't modprobe the modules in there |
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| 23:42.36 | fossterer | ayotick9: What about videos at Youtube.. ? |
| 23:42.56 | fossterer | I tried to keep gnash as is for 2 weeks and gave up yesterday :( |
| 23:43.16 | arthurfiggis | fossterer: i migrated over to debian stable from ubuntu about a week and a half ago myself as well...not too difficult at all really :) and despite the battering that gnome 3 gets, it does have a very good screen reader installation |
| 23:43.44 | fossterer | got a new friend! :D |
| 23:43.46 | arthurfiggis | (you'll find that a lot of videos on youtube are actually html5 compatible now as well though, so in a lot of cases you don't need the flash plugin for those any more) |
| 23:44.24 | zykotick9 | fossterer: is ayotick9 me? try TAB complietion. YouTube "kinda" works with html5/gnash - but i'd say most videos DON'T play with my setup. I'm obviously a "free" software guy as well, in part for reason already given. |
| 23:45.14 | fossterer | yeah tab completion.. I should remember that :) |
| 23:45.24 | fossterer | ohh no.. this is Empathy! |
| 23:46.01 | fossterer | zykotick9: It isn't supporting TAB completion |
| 23:46.18 | zykotick9 | fossterer: so, use a real IRC client... |
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| 23:46.34 | fossterer | Name that please! |
| 23:47.01 | zykotick9 | fossterer: xchat is popular with GUI crowd. irssi or weechat for terminal. |
| 23:47.42 | eddeboy | Hello! I am configuring a server right now (virtually via VMware) and i am at the end of the installation.W When i press finnish installation it just loop sback to the menu where i can choose instalation process... What am i doing wrong? i choosed to install grub, is that the fault? |
| 23:47.43 | fossterer | ***And fossterer is gonna try 'irssi'/'weechat' obviously*** |
| 23:48.35 | zykotick9 | fossterer: you might want to see "/msg dpkg irssi" before deciding ;) |
| 23:48.42 | fossterer | let's get back.. I remember signing up for Youtube's HTML5 trial... but still gnash is interfering I guess... |
| 23:48.56 | fossterer | ohh... /sg dpkg..?? interesting |
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| 23:49.07 | zykotick9 | fossterer: not many YT vids are HTML5 at this point :( |
| 23:49.36 | zykotick9 | fossterer: gnash will give you a lot more vids, that pure html5! |
| 23:49.52 | zykotick9 | fossterer: i'll brb |
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| 23:51.06 | fossterer | zykotick9: Is gnash still in active development? I feel its in fact preventing videos to take a HTML5 route... [may be that's only me guessing..] |
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| 23:53.04 | zykotick9 | fossterer: yes, gnash is still developed! i don't think it's preventing HTML5 videos, but will be used when HTML5 is not available (i "could" be wrong on that?) |
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| 23:53.53 | fossterer | ok.. I'll see disabling flash plugin and check that out |
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| 23:55.03 | fossterer | One more thing... I see the user agent string in Iceweasel is still "Iceweasel", "17.0" and so on.. That has prevented many add-ons from being installed |
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| 23:56.13 | fossterer | Developers at IceWeasel put that in fact they're gonna make sure that useragent string shouldn't trouble users.. I read that.. but still.. |
| 23:57.04 | zinx | fossterer: wasn't there some BS with Mozilla corp that prevents you from using their trademarked name if it isn't their pristine source? |
| 23:57.43 | zykotick9 | zinx: see "/msg dpkg why iceweasel" for some of the details about the BS |
| 23:57.45 | arthurfiggis | fossterer: well there's nothing really stopping you from downloading a pre-built firefox from mozilla's site and running that instead, that's what i did :) |
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| 23:58.44 | dvs | !tell fossterer about mdn |
| 23:58.56 | themill | fossterer: precisely which addons aren't installing? |
| 23:59.13 | fossterer | "duckduckgo plus" |
| 23:59.41 | themill | installs here with no problems |
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