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| 00:00.06 | riceandbeans | try something like... |
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| 00:00.16 | riceandbeans | apt-cache search xfce | grep -i ^xfce |
| 00:00.25 | riceandbeans | tons of crap in there |
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| 00:01.04 | riceandbeans | if you get her on KDE, change the mouse settings... |
| 00:01.15 | riceandbeans | KDE one click is windows double click for icons |
| 00:01.23 | riceandbeans | that's going to scare her |
| 00:01.35 | padan | i needed to install some packages and older box running lenny and it wanted me to do an apt-get -f install ... so i did that, now apt bitches about the glibc version. what's the best way to fix this? |
| 00:01.39 | padan | apt-get: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6) |
| 00:01.52 | padan | apt-get: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6) |
| 00:01.56 | riceandbeans | padan: this sounds utterly crazy, but remove glibc |
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| 00:02.04 | riceandbeans | apt-get purge glibc |
| 00:02.07 | padan | how? i can't use apt |
| 00:02.08 | timofonic | riceandbeans: I'm not using kde right now. But crap? |
| 00:02.25 | riceandbeans | oh... |
| 00:02.27 | riceandbeans | hmm |
| 00:02.29 | padan | ya :P |
| 00:02.34 | padan | can i dl a deb and dpkg it? |
| 00:02.35 | timofonic | riceandbeans: err, debian |
| 00:02.48 | riceandbeans | well you want apt's intellect here |
| 00:02.50 | padan | like a new version of apt that won |
| 00:02.55 | padan | will work |
| 00:03.05 | riceandbeans | what you WANT to do is remove glibc and apt to be like WHOA YOU NEED THAT |
| 00:03.14 | padan | i'm guessing apt opted to upgrade glibc |
| 00:03.17 | riceandbeans | then it will say if you're removing it, I'll install it for dependencies for everything |
| 00:03.18 | padan | and didn't upgrade itself |
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| 00:03.26 | riceandbeans | so it will upgrade it correctly then |
| 00:03.35 | timofonic | I don't get with important packages aren't statically compiled! :P |
| 00:03.38 | riceandbeans | when doing a dist-upgrade, always upgrade dpkg and apt first |
| 00:03.40 | riceandbeans | separately |
| 00:03.49 | riceandbeans | timofonic: true... |
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| 00:04.11 | padan | i wasn't able to install any packages due to missing deps, so i figured i could get the missing deps and then proceed |
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| 00:05.24 | timofonic | with=why |
| 00:05.33 | themill | so you've tried to install random packages designed for ubuntu raring or precise onto a debian lenny box and you wonder why it doesn't work now? |
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| 00:06.13 | jenia | how everyone. |
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| 00:06.30 | sk_0 | how do i install wheezy on uefi mobo without grub? i already have arch using uefi on another partition |
| 00:06.33 | timofonic | riceandbeans: What do you mean about lots of crap in xfce-related packages? |
| 00:06.33 | jenia | can somone please advise me what driver to install to be able to connect to a ttyUSB |
| 00:06.49 | namespace | themill: All debian distros are binary compatible. :P |
| 00:06.51 | padan | themill - if you are asking me that question, no, thats not what occured. i needed to install a package with apt and it found unresolved deps |
| 00:07.14 | themill | padan: no... lenny doesn't have unresolved deps |
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| 00:07.25 | themill | jenia: that depends on the hardware but there's a good chance your kernel already has the right module |
| 00:07.27 | padan | ok, well it certainly thought it did as it told me to run apt-get -f install |
| 00:07.53 | padan | i'll grant that i haven't logged into this box in about a year and its possible someone else did something, but i doubt it |
| 00:07.58 | themill | that only means it had been broken by an earlier action |
| 00:08.20 | jenia | i checked the /proc/modules file and didnt find any ttyUSB entries. also the device is not mounting |
| 00:08.31 | jenia | i cant find the ttyUSB* in the /dev directory |
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| 00:08.35 | padan | ok, if its that important to you to determine that, great. doesn't really help me fix it |
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| 00:10.23 | jenia | themill: i'm doing this cause i need to connect to a beaglebone. but the thing is simply not mounting |
| 00:11.33 | namespace | padan: It gives you the error message about GLIBC when you try to install stuff right? |
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| 00:12.14 | padan | when i just run it with no args |
| 00:13.27 | padan | looks like the -f installed glibc2.7 |
| 00:13.40 | padan | at least the package is sitting in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 00:14.12 | padan | when i try and reinstall the apt deb with dpkg from that dir it says it is already installed |
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| 00:15.29 | padan | looks like i've got an old version of glibc sitting in there... 2.17 |
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| 00:15.59 | jenia | can anyone tell me why is debian not mounting a file (and doesnt even see) a ttyUSB device? |
| 00:16.22 | jenia | me? |
| 00:16.36 | jenia | padan: are you talking to me? |
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| 00:17.49 | padan | no |
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| 00:18.23 | jenia | ahh ups |
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| 00:20.23 | riceandbeans | timofonic: I mean, that you have tons of XFCE related packages that you CAN install |
| 00:20.34 | riceandbeans | not that they are crap or bloated, you have a lot you can choose from |
| 00:20.36 | timofonic | riceandbeans: Oh, okay! |
| 00:20.37 | riceandbeans | things to install |
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| 00:20.46 | riceandbeans | seriously |
| 00:20.55 | riceandbeans | apt-cache search xfce | grep ^xfce | wc -l |
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| 00:21.22 | timofonic | riceandbeans: I'll take note, thanks! |
| 00:21.22 | riceandbeans | I show 58 packages that START with xfce |
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| 00:21.40 | riceandbeans | 80 with it in the name |
| 00:22.52 | timofonic | :) |
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| 00:26.05 | magyar | hi, is there a way to upgrade the broken gnutls libs in wheezy? |
| 00:26.40 | themill | bug number? |
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| 00:27.20 | magyar | themill: 642051 |
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| 00:27.35 | blocky | can i install stable over top of testing without formatting? I want to preserve my home directory and nothing else |
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| 00:28.56 | aypea[3] | blocky: delete everything else, make a backup and tell the installer not to format. |
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| 00:29.12 | themill | magyar: that looks like a wget problem not a gnutls problem |
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| 00:30.14 | magyar | themill: is there a fixed wget package? |
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| 00:31.03 | themill | magyar: you could rebuild the sid package (/msg dpkg ssb) or use curl |
| 00:31.44 | magyar | themill: i am stuck with curl, thats why I decided to test using wget :) |
| 00:32.13 | magyar | with curl I keep getting "error:14077410:SSL routines:SSL23_GET_SERVER_HELLO:sslv3 alert handshake failure" |
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| 00:33.15 | magyar | I've tried everything under the sun, referencing the cert, disabling host/peer verification you name it |
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| 00:34.38 | Streusel | Compiling question, Is it possible to open a file during compile time? |
| 00:35.00 | Mahjongg | hello, hard disk crashed and I could copied /var/lib/mysql to the new installation and replaced it with the new /var/lib/mysql. chowned old /var/lib/mysql as mysql:mysql and now I am getting this error: /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed error: 'Access denied for user 'debian-sys-maint'@'localhost' (using password: YES)' |
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| 00:35.38 | Mahjongg | how can I chage that user's credentials? |
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| 00:36.47 | debiansnortdust | hi, i need help installing debian |
| 00:36.48 | Richard94 | is kde supported in wheezy? |
| 00:37.01 | debiansnortdust | only small part.. about the partionining which i find confusing |
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| 00:37.29 | Kobra | hmmm, you know nautilus 3.8, is it likeley the old type and search behavoir be introduced as an option in future? |
| 00:37.40 | debiansnortdust | i want to dual boot, i'm at the screen where it asks me to resize partition size... |
| 00:37.55 | Kobra | the new type and search thing is REALLY pissing me off |
| 00:39.01 | debiansnortdust | i should be able to dual boot windows and debian on a single hd which needs two separate partitions am I right? |
| 00:39.07 | Richard94 | anyone know what vboxvideo is |
| 00:39.30 | debiansnortdust | if my hd is 500 gb... and the min size for debian is 139.2 gb.. how much space should i allocate for debian? |
| 00:40.01 | Mahjongg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:40.17 | Mahjongg | in case anyone is interested |
| 00:41.01 | debiansnortdust | nevermind, im going to assign 35% of hd space for debian |
| 00:41.06 | Kobra | heh, fuck this shit, fuck nautlius, i'm just gona use Nemo from now on |
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| 00:51.51 | Arrowmaster | Kobra: good choice |
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| 00:52.06 | magyar | hi is there an openssl package for wheezy that supports sslv2? |
| 00:52.23 | Kobra | Arrowmaster: i don't get it, why would trhey even change that behavoir? |
| 00:52.36 | Arrowmaster | Kobra: because they hate users |
| 00:52.36 | zinx | Kobra: Gnome. |
| 00:52.41 | Kobra | lol |
| 00:52.42 | zinx | Kobra: they are freaking insane |
| 00:52.55 | stazich | Hi, awefully silly of me to ask here, but #dns is asleep. Can anyone name a free dynamic dns service these days? |
| 00:53.00 | Kobra | i really do like gnome, but some of the shit they do.... and then when people comp[lain, they're just like "fuck you" |
| 00:53.24 | Arrowmaster | nemo is awesome, im just waiting for the rest of cinnamon 2.0 to finally work on debian, or until im frustrated enough to just compile it myself |
| 00:53.26 | zinx | i couldn't handle the early 3.x BS, ditched it and moved to xfce |
| 00:53.35 | stazich | help would be much appreciated. |
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| 00:53.59 | jordanm | stazich: noip |
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| 00:54.13 | stazich | thank you jordanm! |
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| 00:55.16 | jordanm | magyar: openssl in main should |
| 00:55.24 | jordanm | atleast according to the s_client manpage |
| 00:56.18 | magyar | jordanm: I'm getting "OpenSSL was built without SSLv2 support" |
| 00:56.29 | jordanm | magyar: when doing what? |
| 00:56.51 | magyar | jordanm: using curl |
| 00:57.02 | magyar | with -2 |
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| 00:59.31 | Richard94 | Anyone know what source list has kde in it? |
| 00:59.55 | jordanm | Richard94: it's in the main repo |
| 01:00.11 | Richard94 | odd, it says its either missing or obsolete |
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| 01:00.13 | jordanm | magyar: yeah, it does. it has been deprecated for 15 years |
| 01:00.28 | jordanm | !tell magyar about package recompile |
| 01:00.42 | jordanm | Richard94: you want kde-full |
| 01:00.49 | Richard94 | thanks |
| 01:01.09 | scottj | Are there any packages that I can install that can maybe warn me if my system is compromised by a rootkit or a binary I download does something obviously malicious? preferably something that doesn't require much configuration. I realize it won't be 100% successful. |
| 01:01.14 | jordanm | Richard94: or kde-plasma-desktop if you don't want the standard kde utilities |
| 01:01.43 | jordanm | scottj: rkhunter, debsums, tripwire |
| 01:01.51 | jordanm | I wouldn't consider any of them good or reliable |
| 01:02.21 | magyar | jordanm: :), thanks, that is what i've been doing for the past 15min |
| 01:02.29 | scottj | jordanm: do you run any of them? |
| 01:02.37 | Richard94 | setting up a GUI of debian beside the expert install, just to mess around |
| 01:02.45 | jordanm | scottj: I have ran tripwire for PCI compliance reasons |
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| 01:03.16 | scottj | jordanm: would you run any on a desktop? |
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| 01:03.48 | jordanm | scottj: no |
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| 01:04.05 | mumpitzel | scottj: for realtime AV software protection there is only clamav which I wouldn't trust either (but then, no one sane trusts any AV software) |
| 01:04.30 | jordanm | scottj: I don't run downloaded binaries as root |
| 01:04.43 | jordanm | scottj: all non-debian software I install inside of my home directory |
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| 01:06.50 | jordanm | magyar: why do you need sslv2 anyways? |
| 01:07.08 | scottj | jordanm: yeah, I have no password on my user's sudo so I think that makes me pretty vulnerable right? |
| 01:07.49 | scottj | jordanm: like, if I run the program without sudo, couldn't it do something with sudo and I wouldn't know because I have NOPASSWD for my user |
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| 01:08.20 | jordanm | scottj: if you already ran it with sudo, NOPASSWD doesn't matter, it's already EUID 0 |
| 01:08.31 | scottj | jordanm: no, I mean I run it w/o sudo |
| 01:08.53 | jordanm | scottj: if the malicious software happen to check sudo, then yes |
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| 01:09.29 | jordanm | NOPASSWD should be reserved for a limited set of commands |
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| 01:17.29 | SamSagaZ | guys, exist some kind of app to receive the twitter messages in kde? |
| 01:17.45 | SamSagaZ | i dont want to use my sphone (because dont have it one) :D |
| 01:17.49 | SamSagaZ | sorry for my english |
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| 01:18.26 | scottj | SamSagaZ: with bitlbee you can receive twitter messages in IRC |
| 01:18.44 | ChibaPet | SamSagaZ: I don't have one to recommend, but I just did a quick search for "kde twitter" that found a number of possibilities. |
| 01:18.54 | SamSagaZ | thanks guys |
| 01:19.13 | scottj | SamSagaZ: you can also use the web interface |
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| 01:33.53 | themill | scottj: -i |
| 01:34.14 | themill | oh -- it is by default |
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| 01:36.39 | debiansnortdust | setting up dual boot isn't easy for debians |
| 01:37.31 | abrotman | it's super easy |
| 01:37.38 | debiansnortdust | well only when setting up lvm. |
| 01:37.49 | ChibaPet | Dual boot is orthogonal to lvm. |
| 01:38.03 | ChibaPet | And yes, it's trivially easy in most cases. |
| 01:38.31 | debiansnortdust | i hope i did everything correctly |
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| 01:38.48 | debiansnortdust | i followed the instructions where the user made many lvm |
| 01:38.49 | ChibaPet | debiansnortdust: Do you have a question we can answer? |
| 01:38.50 | debiansnortdust | i only made one |
| 01:38.55 | debiansnortdust | well, not yet |
| 01:39.01 | debiansnortdust | i'm installing at the moment |
| 01:39.12 | ChibaPet | In that case, good luck with the install, and we're happy to help. |
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| 01:39.37 | debiansnortdust | thanks, will debian have ethos? or detect wifi on startup? |
| 01:39.48 | ChibaPet | Using a single LVM is fine as long as it's not sitting on an encryption layer. |
| 01:40.30 | ChibaPet | debiansnortdust: As you install it ought to ask you about networking. If it works then, you should be fine. If not, you'll have to explore a bit, but you should encounter no insuperable issues. |
| 01:41.00 | debiansnortdust | I hope to encounter a lot of issues :) |
| 01:41.06 | edju | Computer has wheezy in sources.list. However, installed was wheezy when it was testing. No update in a long time . Now that wheezy is stable, would a simple update work? |
| 01:41.40 | ChibaPet | edju: apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade (either as root or via sudo) |
| 01:42.45 | debiansnortdust | do I need a program called easybcd to change the boot order? |
| 01:42.47 | edju | ChibaPet, OK/ Thanks. |
| 01:43.20 | ChibaPet | debiansnortdust: No. You'd ought to be able to pick what you want to boot from the GRUB menu at boot time. |
| 01:43.28 | debiansnortdust | ok |
| 01:44.18 | ChibaPet | debiansnortdust: If you want to change the default, that'll require editing a config - unless there's some tool out there that does it for you. Maybe that's what easybcd does? Never heard of it. |
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| 01:44.42 | debiansnortdust | yeah i wil figure out how to edit it. not sure i want to pay for something just to change boot order. |
| 01:45.09 | squisher | hehe |
| 01:45.17 | squisher | I actually wrote a tool for changing the grub config |
| 01:45.20 | cryptomnesia | debiansnortdust: i think easybcd is free for non-commercial use |
| 01:45.23 | squisher | s/config/default |
| 01:46.03 | squisher | debiansnortdust: http://de.mcbf.net/david/grubchoosedefault/ |
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| 02:00.23 | debiansnortdust | so bad :( it doesn't detect wifi and I cant find an ethernet cable to connect to the internt |
| 02:01.08 | blocky | anybody ever heard of a bug where realtek ethernet interface won't do dhcp on ipv4 but works on v6? i had to do ifup and manually add nameservers and even a route to my default gateway |
| 02:01.34 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, ? |
| 02:02.01 | debiansnortdust | debian fresh install doesn't have the drivers to detect wifi |
| 02:02.10 | debiansnortdust | so i need to connect via ethernet :| |
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| 02:02.38 | alusion | I'm manually partitioning |
| 02:03.10 | alusion | I just made a swap space |
| 02:03.12 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, yeah, cuz they don't want peeps installing nonfree stuff right away |
| 02:03.28 | DoverMo | alusion, good O: |
| 02:03.36 | alusion | do I make 3 partitions for my debian install, one for / && /boot && /home/ ? |
| 02:03.49 | alusion | I plan on having an encrypted home dir |
| 02:03.51 | Bsims | debiansnortdust: I found that ubuntu and redhat did the same thing... though it really depends on the driver |
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| 02:04.10 | alusion | I wanna know if the type should be primary or logical |
| 02:04.17 | DoverMo | alusion, as long as you have a root, you can have whatever you want |
| 02:04.31 | alusion | root partition should be primary or logical |
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| 02:04.49 | debiansnortdust | nevermind i found it :D |
| 02:04.52 | squisher | debiansnortdust: there are unofficial images that you can download which have the firmware; that would maybe help |
| 02:05.21 | debiansnortdust | debian is pretty smooth |
| 02:05.42 | squisher | alusion: I usually do /boot primary, the rest logical (or use lvm, but that's more complicated) |
| 02:05.53 | FuqUmist | hey, i'm seem to be infected with a virus while using Ubuntu called ""Citadel trojan" does this virus infect Debian too? just wondering |
| 02:06.10 | alusion | I've used LVM |
| 02:06.16 | alusion | it makes things fugly |
| 02:06.19 | FuqUmist | apparently it an ebanking virus or something http://www.securityweek.com/new-banking-trojan-targets-linux-users |
| 02:06.30 | FuqUmist | http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/33884/hand-of-thief-banking-trojan-takes-aim-at-secure-linux-os/ |
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| 02:08.26 | DoverMo | FuqUmist, O: did you install avira? |
| 02:08.39 | alusion | so I just have to create a /root |
| 02:08.41 | FuqUmist | nope |
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| 02:08.57 | alusion | after I install /, I can create a user and encrypt that home dir |
| 02:09.04 | alusion | instead of doing from debian install |
| 02:09.06 | alusion | right |
| 02:09.48 | alusion | use ecrypt-fs |
| 02:09.53 | alusion | ecryptfs |
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| 02:10.26 | DoverMo | alusion, o-o, if you want to have more steps, ofc. partitioning before hand is the standard way though |
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| 02:11.05 | DoverMo | alusion, what are you partitioning with? |
| 02:11.22 | alusion | a debian wheezy installer |
| 02:11.40 | DoverMo | alusion, oh, use a livecd imo |
| 02:11.59 | squisher | you can do encryption in the regular installer |
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| 02:12.11 | DoverMo | +1 you can |
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| 02:12.34 | debiansnortdust | hmm, how do i get all the major downloads/updates? |
| 02:12.37 | debiansnortdust | via terminal |
| 02:13.03 | Bsims | debiansnortdust: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 02:13.21 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, check /etc/apt/sources.list, then use apt-get update, upgrade, and dist-upgrade |
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| 02:14.04 | debiansnortdust | it says name is not in the sudoers file |
| 02:14.17 | debiansnortdust | am i missing a step before i type sudo apt-get update |
| 02:14.18 | Bsims | ok simply su to root |
| 02:14.32 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, sudo isn't setup by default in doobeon |
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| 02:15.27 | Bsims | I think it is if you don't set up a root password but its been a while |
| 02:15.52 | debiansnortdust | ok so i did it, but it took less than a second to update |
| 02:16.11 | phy1729 | Bsims: is correct |
| 02:16.25 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, update gathers the package list, then use upgrade or dist-upgrade |
| 02:16.26 | alusion | I should always encrypt the swap too right |
| 02:18.01 | ChibaPet | alusion: Doesn't matter. I use all primary most of the time. |
| 02:18.17 | ChibaPet | alusion: Oh, I was stuck in scrollback. Never mind. |
| 02:18.59 | ChibaPet | alusion: FWIW, I currently like /boot on LVM on RAID 1, / and swap and /home and whatever on LVM on LUKS on RAID 1. |
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| 02:20.49 | debiansnortdust | what's the driver I need in order to watch youtube videos and such |
| 02:21.35 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, 'gnash' if you want free software |
| 02:22.00 | ChibaPet | debiansnortdust: YouTube is either Flash or WebM. |
| 02:22.18 | debiansnortdust | how do I get those files? |
| 02:22.25 | ChibaPet | debiansnortdust: 'gnash' works for some things - my personal experience is that it explodes more of than works. |
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| 02:22.28 | debiansnortdust | gnash for terminal? |
| 02:22.38 | ChibaPet | often* |
| 02:22.42 | debiansnortdust | typed gnash in terminal and got no result |
| 02:23.03 | ChibaPet | debiansnortdust: You want a browser plug-in for, say, Firefox or Iceweasel - you don't invoke them directly. |
| 02:23.24 | debiansnortdust | can i download those directly from a website? |
| 02:23.48 | ChibaPet | debiansnortdust: You can get them using a package tool. Graphical ones include, say, Synaptic. Terminal-based include apt-get and aptitude. |
| 02:24.07 | ChibaPet | https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSynaptic |
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| 02:24.45 | ChibaPet | Sorry, this one's more up to date: https://wiki.debian.org/Synaptic |
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| 02:25.26 | dvs | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.40 | ChibaPet | The first one I linked is evidently a historical oddity. |
| 02:25.55 | ChibaPet | It should probably go away. |
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| 02:28.18 | ChibaPet | debiansnortdust: Here, you might want to look at this too:https://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
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| 02:28.52 | ChibaPet | And... going home. G'night. |
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| 02:30.05 | debiansnortdust | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:31.42 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, where it is depends on your desktop environment. If you're using gnome 3 you can find it in the activities menu which lists all of your programs |
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| 02:38.08 | GJdan | Hey, what is a good, maybe even the best network monitoring software for use with debian systems these days? |
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| 02:41.32 | jwilliams1 | when seeing a file /path/to/.source.lua.swp, how can i know which process uses/ opens that file? |
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| 02:41.45 | jwilliams1 | i try lsof /path/to/file |
| 02:41.50 | jwilliams1 | but seems not right. |
| 02:41.57 | comradekingu | GJdan: wireshark? |
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| 02:42.24 | jwilliams1 | get it. |
| 02:42.32 | alusion | http://pastebin.com/pPUq1RPg this is how my partition scheme looks atm, I have questions on the bottom too |
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| 02:42.49 | jwilliams1 | instead of using lsof /path/to/file, i should use lsof /path/to/.file.swp |
| 02:42.53 | jwilliams1 | thanks |
| 02:43.21 | GJdan | comradekingu: thanks, I'll have a look. For reference I was looking at munin and zabbix before (I might have misspelled those) |
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| 02:47.57 | comradekingu | GJdan: Oh, well in that case maybe those _are_ the droids you are looking for |
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| 02:48.35 | GJdan | well I dunno, I'm running blind. Want to consider options |
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| 02:49.38 | jordilopezamat1 | dear #debian community , how to install PepperFlashPlayer for chromium in my Debian 7 laptop ? |
| 02:49.48 | jordilopezamat1 | thank for your attention |
| 02:50.28 | DoverMo | jordilopezamat1, enable non-free, install pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 02:50.31 | jordilopezamat1 | (i'm getting E: Unable to locate package pepperflashplugin-nonfree message ... :-/ ) |
| 02:51.04 | DoverMo | jordilopezamat1, did you apt-get update? |
| 02:51.05 | jordilopezamat1 | yep... i made a typo error on package's name |
| 02:51.13 | jordilopezamat1 | thanks DoverMo |
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| 02:52.09 | jordilopezamat1 | BTW ... i have chromium ... should it then start using pepperflashplugin-nonfree instead of (damned) flashplugin-nonfree automatically ? |
| 02:52.56 | jordilopezamat1 | (as per https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer ... install seems to be downloadoing Chrome also... :-/ ) |
| 02:52.58 | SirLagz | how can I use awk to split by both a space and a . |
| 02:53.24 | karlpinc | I've got a usb stick that I dd-ed the debian 6 installer onto. Is there a way to re-format the drive and make it boot freedos? I seem to recall that once the boot sector is overwritten with syslinux there's no going back, or at least I couldn't figure out a way to do it short of finding a MS Windows machine somewhere. |
| 02:53.40 | DoverMo | jordilopezamat1, you can check in chrome://plugins/ |
| 02:53.56 | karlpinc | jordilopezamat1: chrome is probably a requirement of the package. |
| 02:53.57 | jordilopezamat1 | ah ... DoverMo |
| 02:53.57 | debiansnortdust | i don't know why my debian didn't come up with synaptic manager :| |
| 02:54.07 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: Because you didn't install it? |
| 02:54.13 | jordilopezamat1 | i see... thanks karlpinc |
| 02:55.40 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, in a terminal as root run "apt-get install synaptic gksu" |
| 02:55.56 | karlpinc | jordilopezamat1: Debian expects you to get software from debian, unless your an expert. See the DebianSoftware page on the wiki. |
| 02:56.20 | debiansnortdust | DoverMo: ok i did |
| 02:56.26 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, and did it install? |
| 02:56.38 | debiansnortdust | it's not showing up on the fast search |
| 02:57.00 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: It should show up in the menu. What's a fast search? |
| 02:57.16 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, perhaps you may need to restart. check to see if it runs first with "gksu synaptic" |
| 02:57.26 | debiansnortdust | the search bar that you enter programs you want and it would show |
| 02:57.38 | debiansnortdust | oh maybe |
| 02:57.38 | debiansnortdust | hold on |
| 02:57.42 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: gnome3? |
| 02:57.55 | debiansnortdust | I think KDE |
| 02:58.33 | debiansnortdust | it's performing bunch of stuff right now upon restart, maybe something will happen |
| 02:58.35 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: It's probably under administration or something. You really shouldn't need to reboot, or even re-login, but I don't know kde. |
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| 02:59.30 | karlpinc | jobs |
| 02:59.34 | karlpinc | oops |
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| 03:00.33 | debiansnortdust | nope still not there |
| 03:00.41 | karlpinc | well then. I guess I'll break down and make an isoimage of freedos and use syslinux on that, unless somebody has a better way to get freedos on a usb stick. |
| 03:00.44 | nonconvergent | Arg there's a deb build script in this copy of workbench source but it errored. |
| 03:01.16 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: What happens when you type "which synaptic"? |
| 03:01.28 | debiansnortdust | nothing |
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| 03:01.30 | debiansnortdust | just drops a line |
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| 03:02.10 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: And "aptitude show synaptic" does not show it installed? |
| 03:02.22 | debiansnortdust | i typed aptitude install synaptic and it says no candidate version for synaptic |
| 03:02.40 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: What version of debian? |
| 03:02.53 | kingsley | Is there something like a filter that conveniently copies one layer to several others, each rotated by a few more degrees? |
| 03:03.12 | kingsley | Oops, sorry. Wrong channel. |
| 03:03.15 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: Have you done an "aptitude update" (or apt-get equalivant) lately? |
| 03:03.27 | debiansnortdust | yeah i did that, this a fresh install |
| 03:03.41 | debiansnortdust | im not sure which version but it's KDE for sure |
| 03:04.04 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 03:04.39 | debiansnortdust | i get the value 7.0 |
| 03:05.04 | nonconvergent | https://gist.github.com/nonconvergent/c526ed9a1a78c14574d7 I got into trouble here. Trying to build workbench using this make_deb script it came with (because the version in Wheezy crashes on functionality I need) |
| 03:05.17 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: Put your /etc/apt/sources.list at paste.debian.net or somewhere. |
| 03:06.04 | nonconvergent | What am I doing wrong? |
| 03:06.06 | debiansnortdust | I didn't get any information from that command |
| 03:06.23 | DoverMo | facepalm.jpg |
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| 03:06.39 | debiansnortdust | nm i got it, I forgot the "cat" |
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| 03:08.10 | debiansortdust | ok i had to log in from the linux pc |
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| 03:09.13 | karlpinc | nonconvergent: I don't know, but it does not look like you're trying to do a backport. That would be the simplest way to go. See the <ssb> factoid. |
| 03:09.57 | nonconvergent | karlpinc: been there, done that, been burned. |
| 03:10.03 | nonconvergent | It fails the simple test. |
| 03:10.20 | debiansnortdust | something is wrong with this. it wont even load webpage |
| 03:10.37 | karlpinc | nonconvergent: It does not look like you've got a debian package, so you can't build it with a debian package build script. (Not that I really know anything about packaging.) |
| 03:11.00 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: can you ping your gateway? |
| 03:11.57 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: For that matter, does your box have an IP? |
| 03:12.11 | alusion | how big would a root partition make sense to be |
| 03:12.20 | alusion | 60gb? |
| 03:12.24 | alusion | future proof |
| 03:12.41 | karlpinc | alusion: What are you trying to do? Why have more than 2 partitions, one for swap and one for everything else? |
| 03:14.14 | squisher | karlpinc: there are plenty of reasons to have more partitions |
| 03:14.33 | karlpinc | squisher: Yes. But unless you know what they are you shoulnd't have more partitions. |
| 03:14.56 | squisher | well, in general yes, but I'd still opt for a separate /home in any case |
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| 03:15.21 | debiantsnort | karlpinc: http://paste.debian.net/65741/ |
| 03:15.36 | karlpinc | squisher: Depends on what the box is for. For a personal box I'd generally not have a separate home. It's a matter of taste. |
| 03:15.56 | squisher | karlpinc: it's always a matter of taste ;-) |
| 03:16.19 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, so how do you expect to download packages online if you don't have any online repo's enabled? |
| 03:16.37 | debiansnortdust | i dont know what's going on really,. this is first linux experience |
| 03:16.50 | nonconvergent | karlpinc: It's from source. |
| 03:17.00 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, right well. /etc/apt/sources.list tells your computer where to look to download packages |
| 03:17.05 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: Ah. Can you see a pm from the bot in irc? |
| 03:17.11 | karlpinc | !tell debiansnortdust about sources.list |
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| 03:18.39 | debiansnortdust | sorry dude |
| 03:18.40 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: The bot should have sent you a pm. After fixing sources.list do a "aptitude update" and "aptitude safe-upgrade" (or apt-get if you prefer it to aptitude.) Then you'll get a lot of updates to upgrade to the lastest point release 7.2. |
| 03:18.42 | debiansnortdust | i have no idea what to do from this point |
| 03:18.53 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: Did you see what the bot said? |
| 03:19.01 | debiansnortdust | yeah but not making sense |
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| 03:19.37 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: You need to change your sources.list file content to have the basic wheezy lines in it. Right now it's expecting everything to come from the install cd. |
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| 03:20.20 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: (You probably did not do the netinstall install image, which would have setup things properly for you.) |
| 03:20.32 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: Do you know how to change the content of a file? |
| 03:20.43 | debiansnortdust | No idea |
| 03:21.33 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: Well, you can use the "nano" editor. It explains how to use itself at the bottom of the screen. the ^ key means hold down the control key while pressing the following key. So, ^W is Control-W. |
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| 03:21.58 | namespace | the ia32-libs appear to be broken. |
| 03:22.12 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: Or there's probably some gui editor or another installed, but you need to be root to edit /etc/apt/sources.list. |
| 03:22.16 | abrotman | namespace: why? |
| 03:22.25 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: Is it clear what needs to be in sources.list? |
| 03:22.29 | namespace | The following packages have unmet dependencies: ia32-libs : Depends: ia32-libs-i386 but it is not installable |
| 03:22.33 | namespace | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 03:22.46 | debiansnortdust | i'm not understand a single thing you're telling me right now |
| 03:22.48 | debiansnortdust | lol |
| 03:22.51 | abrotman | namespace: which version of Debian ? |
| 03:23.02 | DoverMo | debiansnortdust, did you get my pm? |
| 03:23.11 | namespace | abrotman: IIRC, Debian 7.1 stable |
| 03:23.14 | debiansnortdust | DoverMo: can you send that to my other name |
| 03:23.22 | debiansnortdust | i cna't seem to send it to my other name |
| 03:23.31 | debiansnortdust | this is my main pc ,not the debian |
| 03:23.38 | debiansnortdust | debiantsnort |
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| 03:24.04 | debiansnortdust | wow, nevermind, the linux freenode has frozen |
| 03:24.08 | DoverMo | O: |
| 03:24.21 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: Unless you tell me more about what's unclear I can't guess how to help. |
| 03:24.36 | namespace | debiansnortdust: Just joined, working for me |
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| 03:24.41 | fuzza | hi all |
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| 03:24.57 | debiansnortdust | im going to copy and paste what DoverMo sent me into terminal |
| 03:25.18 | roe | Can someone help me understand why icedove 24 is not in unstable yet: http://qa.debian.org/excuses.php?package=icedove |
| 03:25.27 | namespace | abrotman: Are you getting it too or is it just me? |
| 03:26.11 | fuzza | my exim googlefu is failing me... is it possible to reject an incoming email (at smtp time would be nice, but whatever) based on the MAIL FROM matching a particular address? (similar to HELO checks) |
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| 03:26.39 | abrotman | namespace: ia32-libs is gone in stable, use multiarch |
| 03:27.33 | namespace | God dammit google. |
| 03:27.45 | karlpinc | abrotman: Now that you're here, any clue how to take a usb stick that's had the debian 6 installer dd-ed to it and get it to boot freedos? I can't figure out how to get the right mbr. |
| 03:28.32 | karlpinc | Iv'e got a bios update to install from dos. |
| 03:28.44 | abrotman | karlpinc: probably wipe the drive to start with |
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| 03:31.28 | karlpinc | abrotman: Yah, but what partitioning tool will install the dos mbr? Maybe I could use syslinux to boot the freedos install iso, but it's getting a little crazy. I'm tempted to use unetbootin and brave the voodoo. Does that sound reasonable? |
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| 03:33.18 | karlpinc | roe: I think the judd bot will tell you. But it's really looking at bugs.debian.org so you could do that too. |
| 03:33.51 | roe | karlpinc, wouldn't that tell me why it isn't it testing |
| 03:34.27 | karlpinc | roe: I don't remember any details. You're getting a fuzzy brain-dump. |
| 03:34.36 | debiansnortdust | debian is pretty tough to use ;P |
| 03:35.18 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: Did you follow the install instructions in the install guide and use the netinstall? |
| 03:35.46 | abrotman | karlpinc: oh! |
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| 03:36.07 | abrotman | karlpinc: uhm, so you want to use fdisk to change the partition ttype |
| 03:36.14 | abrotman | and let me remember about the dos mbr |
| 03:36.15 | debiansnortdust | nope, not even sure netinstall was supposed to be convenient for end-users |
| 03:36.33 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: There might be an eaiser way to do what's needed. It'd have been nice if a paste site was used to send you instructions so we could see. |
| 03:37.14 | debiansnortdust | i burned the disc a few months ago. i forgot where i got it from ;\ |
| 03:37.23 | debiansnortdust | i just didn't got around installing deb |
| 03:37.25 | karlpinc | abrotman: IIRC (and I could be wrong) the format -s puts the the mbr boot code in. But the linux fdisk tool does not produce a bootable mbr. |
| 03:37.44 | abrotman | karlpinc: nor should it from what I remember? |
| 03:37.50 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: No worries. |
| 03:38.25 | abrotman | karlpinc: http://www.meta.net.nz/~daniel/blog/2009/06/10/creating-a-dos-usb-bootdisk-under-linux/ |
| 03:39.18 | karlpinc | abrotman: Proably not. But nothing does. That I can tell. So you eather never touch the stick's OEM partitioning, and trust the OEM's mbr boot code, or you can never boot dos again. At least that's where my brain stopped the last time I went at this. |
| 03:39.31 | boudiccas_ | ,v rubrica |
| 03:39.32 | judd | Package: rubrica on i386 -- squeeze: 2.0-1.1; sid: 2.0-1.3; wheezy: 2.0-1.3 |
| 03:39.57 | magyar | jordanm: testing curl to a remote host that is using https sslv2 |
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| 03:40.05 | karlpinc | debiansnortdust: We tend to work directly from the command line here, and with file content. Trying to support a gui is difficult via IRC. |
| 03:40.26 | karlpinc | abrotman: Thanks. I'll look. |
| 03:40.37 | magyar | jordanm: don't ask me why, this is a third party payment processing firm |
| 03:40.47 | karlpinc | abrotman: (I've even got a licensed DOS 6 floppy and everything!) |
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| 03:42.34 | karlpinc | abrotman: Cool. qemu I can see how that might work. |
| 03:42.47 | abrotman | karlpinc: seems easy enough |
| 03:42.58 | abrotman | karlpinc: PS, next time, dd a floppy to an img? :) |
| 03:43.30 | karlpinc | abrotman: Freedos is probably better supported by the bios oems these days. :) |
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| 03:44.25 | abrotman | dunno, haven't used actual DOS of any sort in .. I hav eno idea how long |
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| 03:49.57 | karlpinc | In case this rings a bell I'm upgrading the bios in a dell optiplex 780 because it's got an e1000e nic and I'm getting freezes (and a lucky kernel panic) that google says are due to TSO being ungood, but TSO is turned off on the card. Damm thing mostly works... |
| 03:50.20 | karlpinc | If anyone wants to see the panic speak right up. :-) |
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| 03:53.48 | fuzza | #exim seems to be rather dead... is it possible to reject an incoming email (at smtp time would be nice, but whatever) based on the MAIL FROM matching a particular address? (similar to HELO checks) |
| 03:53.52 | namespace | well this is embaressing. In the version of synaptic that comes with xfce it asks if I want to recieve ubuntu upgrade notices |
| 03:55.03 | namespace | (I'll give you a hint, I'm not running ubuntu.) |
| 03:56.58 | abrotman | sort of like when you can't spell embarrass ? |
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| 03:57.40 | namespace | abrotman: Yeah. |
| 03:57.43 | namespace | A bit like that. |
| 03:58.03 | namespace | It's not like "Debian must defend it's honor" or something. Just a funny oversight. |
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| 03:58.31 | namespace | Is it even worth filing a ticket over? |
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| 04:00.08 | abrotman | if it's in stable, it already has a ticket |
| 04:01.11 | namespace | abrotman: It would presumably be in stable, so I'll assume somebody else has it taken care of. |
| 04:05.49 | themill | There's an updated package that has either been uploaded or ready to be uploaded. |
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| 04:06.49 | namespace | Speaking of uploaded, I'm trying to use the backports sources, except that I can't actually install anything from them. |
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| 04:07.09 | namespace | Reading package lists... Done |
| 04:07.09 | namespace | E: The value 'wheezy-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
| 04:07.32 | themill | you wouldn't want that |
| 04:07.40 | namespace | Why not? |
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| 04:07.50 | namespace | I need to install adb and the 32 bit binaries provided by google don't work. |
| 04:08.08 | namespace | Because I can't install the ia32 libs because apparently those aren't included in stable anymore. |
| 04:09.06 | namespace | Or am I just doing it wrong? |
| 04:10.04 | themill | aptitude -t wheezy-backports install android-tools-adb |
| 04:10.26 | themill | and you can install ia32-libs -- you use multiarch to do so; /msg dpkg multiarch howto |
| 04:11.58 | namespace | Nevermind, the problem was in sources.list. |
| 04:12.23 | themill | you still should not use anything like wheezy-backports as default-release |
| 04:12.38 | namespace | I'm not. |
| 04:13.13 | namespace | I'm using basically the command you gave me except it says 'apt-get' at the start. |
| 04:14.12 | themill | ok |
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| 04:15.20 | namespace | The environmental variable or whatever that apt-get stores the target distribution in is called default distribution. |
| 04:15.35 | namespace | AFAICT |
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| 04:17.10 | themill | There is a config option called Default-Release. It's not a particularly useful config option at the best of times and definitely shouldn't point to backports all the time or when running upgrades; the -t option sets that confg option for just that apt run |
| 04:17.16 | one_tkbx | For some reason, in Debian Testing, I can't type or use keyboard shortcuts in the TOR browser, but regular Iceweasel works fine |
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| 04:22.24 | namespace | themill: That was the impression I got from the man pages. |
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| 04:29.06 | mrdeb | can someone suggest media player that is not vlc and smaller or music player |
| 04:29.33 | ChibaPet | mrdeb: Rhythmbox? Clementine? |
| 04:29.34 | IvanT | mrdeb: omxplayer |
| 04:29.36 | bmcmurray | Perhaps this is the wrong place, but I've come across a few links to various repos on anonscm.debian.org but it appears that anonscm.debian.org is down or no longer exists? Has it moved? |
| 04:29.47 | mrdeb | omxplayer, what is that |
| 04:29.56 | IvanT | a command-line player |
| 04:30.31 | karlpinc | bmcmurray: Dunno. But debian does have a git host. |
| 04:30.34 | IvanT | i normally use that to play video in my computer because my computer is slow, it is also the backbone of XBMC |
| 04:30.56 | karlpinc | Isn't ffplay a command line player? |
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| 04:31.36 | mrdeb | not in repo |
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| 04:31.47 | IvanT | I haven't heard of ffplay, but omxplayer is preinstalled in raspbian wheezy. |
| 04:31.54 | themill | bmcmurray: no, just down atm |
| 04:31.55 | mrdeb | is there a version of vlc that is command line only and smaller |
| 04:32.20 | IvanT | maybe you type omxplayer and followed by the ....mp4 |
| 04:32.29 | bmcmurray | themill: ah ha. is there somewhere I can check the status of such things to see when it comes back up? |
| 04:32.35 | Peny | I think vlc can actually play back in ANSII, I kid you not |
| 04:32.38 | pirret | mrdeb: vlc-nox |
| 04:32.42 | themill | bmcmurray: the debian-infrastructure-announce mailing list |
| 04:32.49 | mrdeb | vlc doesnt follow colors from lxappearance and qt4config doesnt do it right, like having blue bg when something is selected is ugly |
| 04:32.50 | themill | dpkg: tell bmcmurray about alioth down |
| 04:33.03 | mrdeb | vlc-nox plays all, but without interface? |
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| 04:33.45 | Peny | i can't find the option in the menus |
| 04:33.56 | bmcmurray | thanks themill |
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| 04:35.40 | Peny | I have a question, I am using netinstall, and it is unbelieveably slow to use the mirrors, is there a fast mirror ? many seem to go nowhere, and I try random 'big-sounding' ones in asia, europe, russia, australia, but they seem not to work in anything that would be less than measured in hours, which is a fast one that is still up ? |
| 04:35.55 | mrdeb | pirret: yes / no |
| 04:36.43 | karlpinc | Peny: I've have good luck with germany in the past. |
| 04:37.10 | Peny | cool, germany ftp debian or another one on the list, wait, i should go look for some names |
| 04:37.31 | karlpinc | Peny: I go with the universities. YMMV. |
| 04:38.07 | Peny | ahh, cool, there is a long list there, i go look again for edu |
| 04:38.44 | Peny | i chose a uni now |
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| 04:39.02 | Peny | i think.... it had uni in the name, there were no edu ones |
| 04:39.11 | Peny | cause it is in german |
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| 04:42.24 | Peny | later on, I should study this cause i always need it, is there an easy package/tool to use to change and test new repositories for the whole system, I often lose the whole system because it no longer updates properly and cannot use apt-get and just have to start over, my attempts to mess with the lists, no matter how careful, seem to fail miserably... |
| 04:42.50 | Peny | oh long sentence, maybe it get cut off, the end is "my attempts to mess with the lists, no matter how careful, seem to fail miserably..." |
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| 04:43.05 | subb1 | Hi Debian |
| 04:43.40 | mrdeb | (!) DirectFB/FBDev: Error opening framebuffer device! |
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| 04:43.46 | mrdeb | what does this mean (vlc-nox) |
| 04:44.19 | Peny | it wanted to have a window of some sort and couldn't |
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| 04:44.53 | subb1 | I'm on debian lenny. I got a requirement to upgrade postfix on this machine (v 2.5) to 2.7. But the debian repos have only 2.5. It's only squeeze that comes with Postfix 2.7. So is apt-pinning of postfix a good path to take for performing this upgrade? |
| 04:45.02 | Peny | I get the impression that it's on a Tron-like system where there is no monitor and the movie-show needs an internal screen |
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| 04:49.29 | Peny | thanks, right now, it's blistering alone at 0.0Kbps |
| 04:49.33 | Peny | along |
| 04:49.38 | Peny | alone = along |
| 04:50.08 | aypea[3] | hmmm. is it legit to make your own <package>.<script>.debhelper files in packages you create? |
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| 04:53.33 | ctmjr | mrdeb, you want to run vlc via terminal then run cvlc --help |
| 04:53.48 | mrdeb | i did that |
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| 04:54.17 | mrdeb | but it cant play videos, only sound in video, bec it says framebuffer cant be opened, /dev/fb0 or something. so, i dont understand |
| 04:54.26 | mrdeb | if i install full vlc then its ok |
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| 04:56.50 | ctmjr | mrdeb, no you said you ran vlc-nox which is a version of vlc that does not require x |
| 04:57.25 | mrdeb | i installed vlc-nox but in x ran vlc (file) and file wont show video |
| 04:57.29 | mrdeb | so vlc-nox doesnt play videos? |
| 04:57.46 | Some_Person | How can I specify the drive geometry in Linux? |
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| 04:58.36 | Rusty1 | Some_Person: what geometry do you wish to specify? |
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| 04:58.58 | Some_Person | I've got an old Conner 40MB drive that I want to write some files to, but Windows... well... http://i.imgur.com/ujQHDHq.png |
| 04:59.29 | Some_Person | I've been told that the problem might be my BIOS getting the geometry (CHS values) wrong, and there's no way to manually specify them on this machine |
| 05:00.13 | ctmjr | goes back to his corner |
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| 05:00.28 | Peny | mrdeb, it may help to describe your system, like, how it is different to a regular system with regular vlc installed |
| 05:00.42 | Some_Person | Can I do this somehow in Linux? |
| 05:01.03 | mrdeb | i just need to know that vlc-nox doesnt play videos, so i got that answer |
| 05:01.15 | mrdeb | i only wanted a slim video player |
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| 05:02.29 | mumpitze1 | mrdeb: use mplayer? |
| 05:02.51 | mumpitze1 | mrdeb: what videocard do you have and what are your kernel parameters? |
| 05:03.18 | Rusty1 | Some_Person: you can (after backing up important things if needed) try fdisk /dev/sdx and see if it offers to fix it on write, or backup and reformat it |
| 05:03.37 | Some_Person | Rusty1: Not what I want to do |
| 05:04.02 | Some_Person | Rusty1: I just want to put some files on the thing (the drive goes in a very old Compaq 286 laptop) |
| 05:04.18 | Rusty1 | Some_Person: reformat it |
| 05:04.29 | Some_Person | Rusty1: Like I said, I don't want to do that |
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| 05:04.40 | Some_Person | It might not be readable in the original machine if I format it |
| 05:04.46 | Rusty1 | Some_Person: what fs on it ? |
| 05:04.58 | Some_Person | Rusty1: FAT16, I believe |
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| 05:05.45 | mumpitze1 | Some_Person: have you ever tried this disk with a debian system? |
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| 05:06.39 | subb1 | hi debian |
| 05:07.03 | Some_Person | mumpitze1: No, not yet. I don't want to try it until I can confirm that it's possible to manually specify the geometry |
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| 05:07.30 | subb1 | I faintly remember a command on Debian which lets us find out what options were given in during compile time of package installed via apt-get? Could someone give a hint? |
| 05:08.02 | subb1 | it was something for generating a bug report which lists all the compile time options of the package. |
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| 05:08.26 | arun_ | hello all the guys |
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| 05:10.17 | arun_ | grep0r: hello dude |
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| 05:11.23 | subb1 | any guesses guys/ |
| 05:11.24 | subb1 | ? |
| 05:12.36 | mumpitze1 | subb1: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianPackageConfiguration |
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| 05:14.42 | subb1 | mumpitze1, uh it's not that. |
| 05:15.03 | IvanT | !tell dpkg IvanT |
| 05:15.26 | subb1 | the one I mentioned generates an stdout of the compile options, version and stuff the the package for submitting a bug/error report to debian. |
| 05:15.52 | mumpitze1 | subb1: from what I know there is no such command since binary packages don't contain this information. compile time options are only in debian debian/ files and nowhere else |
| 05:16.21 | mumpitze1 | reportbugs makes a list of packages involved including versions. NOT compiletime options |
| 05:16.31 | mumpitze1 | !tell IvanT about selftell |
| 05:17.09 | subb1 | mumpitze1, hmm..let me search again. I've used this one time which is why. |
| 05:17.34 | subb1 | mumpitze1, or.. is there a way to find out the compile time options of installed packages on debian? |
| 05:17.59 | IvanT | how |
| 05:18.26 | mumpitze1 | subb1: I linked you how. that's the way there is |
| 05:18.44 | mumpitze1 | IvanT: dpkg messaged you. read it |
| 05:18.52 | subb1 | mumpitze1, oh.. I'll check it once again. |
| 05:19.02 | IvanT | I don't get it |
| 05:19.23 | mumpitze1 | IvanT: you did. in a different window as a message from dpkg directly to you |
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| 05:23.42 | Guest79535 | dalit : ya dalit try that irssi |
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| 05:24.37 | karlpinc | sub1: If you're running postfix on a out-of-support os you really need to upgrade the os. (And squeeze will be out of support in not-all-that-long too.) |
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| 05:38.24 | chamar | LtL : dpkg is strict |
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| 05:39.19 | LtL | chamar: how so? |
| 05:39.51 | chamar | off topic talks not allowed |
| 05:40.02 | LtL | chamar: oh you mean the bot, yes well, my bad |
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| 05:40.40 | LtL | 9 years here you would think i'd know that ;) |
| 05:40.58 | chamar | ya that bot |
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| 05:55.50 | nicolet | dpkg hello |
| 05:55.51 | dpkg | hello |
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| 05:56.08 | nicolet | dpkg: how are you? |
| 05:56.08 | dpkg | nicolet: you know how it is... |
| 05:56.22 | bread | dpkg: i need ya |
| 05:56.22 | dpkg | bread: are you using Windows? |
| 05:56.42 | nicolet | dpkg hello |
| 05:56.43 | dpkg | hello, nicolet |
| 05:56.57 | bread | should i install x first or gnome |
| 05:56.59 | nicolet | dpkg tell me a story |
| 05:57.04 | reavengrey | Nicolette is the name of a girl I once had a crush on |
| 05:58.15 | nicolet | reavengrey aha |
| 05:58.20 | NotJimCarrey | anyone know how to get Steam under Wine to work with pulseaudio? |
| 05:59.20 | nicolet | dpkg hella |
| 05:59.21 | dpkg | hella is probably lame |
| 05:59.33 | nicolet | gabababnononono lame |
| 05:59.35 | themill | nicolet: please leave the bot alone |
| 05:59.38 | opi | bread: can you even do that? |
| 06:00.06 | opi | bread: I mean, GNOME does depend on x.org, right? |
| 06:00.30 | nicolet | themill: Are you a bot? |
| 06:00.32 | mumpitze1 | wrong |
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| 06:01.08 | mumpitze1 | opi: you can install and run any X client without having X installed. X is network transparent: the X client and the X server don't have to run on the same system |
| 06:01.29 | NotJimCarrey | ok, lemme further expand. amd64 debian, wine, pulseaudio, no audio |
| 06:01.41 | blast_hardcheese | When I run "pkaction --action-id org.freedesktop.udisks.filesystem-mount" I get "No action with action id org.freedesktop.udisks.filesystem-mount". The internet suggests that this should not be the case |
| 06:01.46 | NotJimCarrey | looking, but only solutions i can find are for arch |
| 06:01.48 | blast_hardcheese | Can someone else verify this? |
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| 06:02.31 | themill | blast_hardcheese: that was probably for last week's udisks. |
| 06:03.13 | blast_hardcheese | Ah, gotcha. What is it this week? |
| 06:03.40 | blast_hardcheese | and can I just Action=org.freedesktop.*.filesystem-mount to avoid this issue entirely? |
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| 06:04.43 | blast_hardcheese | (Nothing I do seems to get pkcheck to tell me I am authorized, I'm beginning to question my sanity) |
| 06:04.51 | grimeton | this is SO true http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2013/11/12/la-feature-que-lon-attend-depuis-15-ans/ |
| 06:05.17 | Peny | does netinstall and all updates use only ftp ? are there any alternatives to ftp for netinstall to configure aptitude? |
| 06:05.27 | grimeton | Peny: http |
| 06:05.36 | grimeton | Peny: same url, just replace ftp:// with http:// |
| 06:05.51 | Peny | can netinstall use it ? how can i tell netinstall to use it |
| 06:06.03 | grimeton | Peny: by selecting the http version |
| 06:06.09 | Peny | i can't change the urls, because netinstall is doing it |
| 06:06.09 | grimeton | netinstall should use http by default iirc |
| 06:06.15 | Peny | i'll try |
| 06:06.32 | Peny | well i think i found why it will not install or work at all.. |
| 06:06.49 | blast_hardcheese | No ethernet? |
| 06:06.54 | mumpitze1 | Peny: netinst installs fine even without any network connection |
| 06:07.06 | mumpitze1 | so you can do the updates and stuff later. a bit more work tho |
| 06:07.14 | grimeton | yeah it uses badbios features to bridge the gap |
| 06:07.28 | opi | mumpitze1, OK, I assumend "standard situation" with desk computer/laptop |
| 06:07.42 | mumpitze1 | opi: gnome still doesn't depend on X |
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| 06:08.08 | blast_hardcheese | So, does polkit not use the definitions in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/* ? |
| 06:08.36 | Peny | nope, nothing that simple. Yes, I know it 'installs' without a connection, in a manner in which i can't use apt-get or install anything at all other than the limited packages in the basic system, been there done that |
| 06:09.13 | themill | Peny: you need to put something in your sources.list |
| 06:09.15 | blast_hardcheese | You should be able to use apt-get after that, it just doesn't come with anything particularly friendly ootb |
| 06:09.21 | Peny | doing it later is something i can't work out how to do, further, it seems to always want to use ftp which also won't work |
| 06:09.26 | opi | mumpitze1: then I'm completely mistaken. My appologies. |
| 06:10.33 | Peny | I've tried messing with the lists before, with no joy at all. I expect it has also come down to the high latency preventing ftp from working at all |
| 06:10.55 | mumpitze1 | Peny: how does your internet work? wlan? ethernet? what chip(s)? |
| 06:11.19 | themill | Peny: ftp is not used unless you explicitly request it. latency isn't going to be an issue unless you're using carrier pigeons |
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| 06:12.19 | Peny | I read http://stackoverflow.com/questions/267688/ftp-over-satellite-high-latency-connections this and then it clicked why every linux based system in my home (and they are ALL linux based,) is totally f*cked up and can't install packages correctly after initial install (which is more often than not off a cd / dvd /usb ) |
| 06:12.42 | mumpitze1 | Peny: by default it uses http IIRC |
| 06:13.10 | blast_hardcheese | Even if the host is ftp.*.debian.org, if the protocol is http:// then it still goes over http |
| 06:13.17 | mumpitze1 | and if you have a network at all which doesn't block http, you will be fine installing packages with debian |
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| 06:13.30 | Peny | themill, I don't need that. Please, not everyone is living in mum's basment in america with adsl and minimum wages. The world is a large place and when I talk about high latency I do not need people chirping 'why don't you get adsl' thanks |
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| 06:13.52 | themill | Peny: eh? |
| 06:14.13 | Peny | mumpitze1, I just thought that was the reason why each and every update/install fails |
| 06:14.17 | themill | Please listen to what people are saying and leave the rant mode elsewhere |
| 06:14.17 | C00re | why dont you get fiberoptics? :P |
| 06:14.24 | C00re | sorry, couldnt help myself |
| 06:14.36 | Peny | it seems a logical reason, though, it's not a 15 second delay per file, it's 15 min minimum |
| 06:14.55 | themill | Peny: it would be easier to actually diagnose the problem rather than speculate in the absence of any information. |
| 06:14.55 | mumpitze1 | Peny: satellite has a 400ms to 1s delay |
| 06:14.59 | Peny | themill, please take your own advice, i'm ignoring you now |
| 06:15.31 | Peny | well, when you are not in the middle of the footprint, it's higher, because the sat is towards the horizon |
| 06:15.32 | mumpitze1 | Peny: we all ignore you due to your impolite mannars, rants and lack of information we requested a long time ago. good luck |
| 06:15.35 | blast_hardcheese | grabs popcorn |
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| 06:15.39 | blast_hardcheese | this is great |
| 06:15.41 | Peny | 400 is when the dish is pointing straight UP |
| 06:15.43 | themill | Peny: I have no idea what I've done to earn that privilege other than offer to help you. *shrug* |
| 06:16.07 | blast_hardcheese | Anyway, polkit issues |
| 06:16.09 | mumpitze1 | manners of course |
| 06:16.26 | blast_hardcheese | I shouldn't need to restart polkitd to get it to rehash the pklas, right? |
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| 06:18.39 | Peny | well c00re may be funny making a joke about fibreoptics, but I said from the start high latency. What possible point is there in asking questions about life choices and so on which will go nowhere. people have dialup in the world. people have satellite in the world. xenophobia is not a solution, other distros which have uftp or simple options at install are solutions |
| 06:18.54 | Peny | repeat end of long sentence |
| 06:18.57 | Peny | people have satellite in the world. xenophobia is not a solution, other distros which have uftp or simple options at install are solutions |
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| 06:19.16 | themill | Peny: when you actually want some help, let me know. |
| 06:19.32 | mumpitze1 | themill: I think Peny is in multiple channels with all of them showing in the same window. and is a bit confused, which channel is what |
| 06:20.29 | blast_hardcheese | Peny: Please stop pretending everyone is attacking you, it's really annoying |
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| 06:22.54 | C00re | you dont actually restart polkitd either, since dbus handles it |
| 06:22.58 | C00re | iirc. |
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| 06:23.45 | blast_hardcheese | C00re: dbus does launch it, but I'm having issues getting /anything/ to be authorized |
| 06:24.25 | blast_hardcheese | It doesn't seem like polkit does any sort of logging either, which is frustrating |
| 06:25.10 | C00re | if you are using a desktop you should probably logout, then restart dbus and login again |
| 06:25.26 | blast_hardcheese | can do |
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| 06:25.53 | Richard94 | Is there a nice virtualization too like VMWare I could use in debian inside of virtualbox |
| 06:26.11 | cafuego | 's head explodes |
| 06:26.20 | blast_hardcheese | Richard94: inside of virtualbox? |
| 06:26.27 | blast_hardcheese | or do you mean instead? |
| 06:26.45 | mumpitze1 | Richard94: have you tried running vbox inside vbox? |
| 06:26.47 | themill | VMs within VMs ftw |
| 06:27.15 | blast_hardcheese | libvirt + kvm/qemu + virt-manager is pretty solid as an alternative to vbox |
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| 06:27.32 | mumpitze1 | people now run Linux inside a Javascript VM. why not run virtualbox inside of that too? |
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| 06:29.39 | Richard94 | Sorry let me rephrase |
| 06:29.43 | cafuego | Please |
| 06:29.48 | blast_hardcheese | please do |
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| 06:30.13 | Richard94 | I'm running virtualbox, to run debian. I want to run something like VMWare inside of debian, but freeware |
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| 06:30.31 | blast_hardcheese | Richard94: Check out libvirt + virt-manager |
| 06:30.32 | pirret | lol |
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| 06:33.31 | Richard94 | Do I need a desktop enviroment for vert-manager |
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| 06:35.01 | blast_hardcheese | No, and if you don't want X at all, you can use virt-installer + virsh |
| 06:35.14 | blast_hardcheese | you can controll the VMs via VNC |
| 06:35.59 | pirret | but why run vm inside vm.. |
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| 06:36.43 | Richard94 | for testing |
| 06:36.48 | blast_hardcheese | pirret: It's OK I guess, if you can deal with the speed |
| 06:37.01 | blast_hardcheese | It's going to be so fast that most people can't even handle it |
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| 06:37.04 | cafuego | Richard94: It'll be awful if it works at all. |
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| 06:37.32 | Richard94 | why awful? |
| 06:37.33 | cafuego | Richard94: By testing, do you mean "I want to know if this works" or are you planning to actually use it for anything? |
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| 06:37.58 | Richard94 | I want to get familar with it by the time all my rasberry pi's get shipped to my house |
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| 06:38.24 | pirret | so are you gonna run vms on raspberry? |
| 06:38.39 | Richard94 | Yes |
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| 06:38.43 | pirret | ok... |
| 06:38.44 | Richard94 | I've got 12 coming |
| 06:39.06 | Richard94 | I will have 1 for the main server and 11 for rest |
| 06:39.13 | alusion | how do I update grub to notice encrypted drive |
| 06:39.17 | alusion | partition |
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| 06:40.17 | pirret | i might be missing something now.. |
| 06:41.08 | pirret | but i dont think 700MHz cpu and 256MB RAM is really good host for a vm. |
| 06:41.35 | Richard94 | what would be the best way to do this? |
| 06:41.55 | themill | Richard94: what are you really trying to do? |
| 06:41.57 | pirret | maybe you have misunderstood what virtua machine is..dunno |
| 06:42.00 | Richard94 | its 512mb memory |
| 06:42.02 | pirret | virtual* |
| 06:42.35 | Richard94 | I will have 12 rasberry pis, 1 for the main controller, the 11 that I can controll from the main server |
| 06:42.51 | themill | So where do VMs fit into this? |
| 06:43.31 | Richard94 | I want to be able to virtualize them, be able to fully control each one from the main server |
| 06:43.37 | Richard94 | with some type of control panel |
| 06:43.54 | themill | What does virtualisation have to do with controlling the remote system? |
| 06:44.14 | Richard94 | I want to be able to load images on them with a click of a button |
| 06:44.30 | blast_hardcheese | Load images on the raspberry pi? |
| 06:44.35 | Richard94 | yeah |
| 06:44.39 | blast_hardcheese | Why not just get them all to netboot? |
| 06:44.40 | pirret | this is starting to sound like a troll :) |
| 06:44.48 | Richard94 | ... |
| 06:45.17 | Richard94 | I just want to be able to fully control them with a control panel, thats it |
| 06:45.18 | themill | Richard94: virtualisation really isn't going to work out for you here. Some form of netboot is more feasiblr |
| 06:45.59 | blast_hardcheese | Richard94: I'd go for having whatever images you are loading on them able to write the new OS to the disk before rebooting |
| 06:46.43 | blast_hardcheese | so you have the initial setup of all 12 of them, then after that you can have some signal you send to them cause them to download a new image from the net, flash it to the disk, then reboot |
| 06:47.15 | Richard94 | yes and be able to control them 100% |
| 06:47.32 | blast_hardcheese | the trick would be if you are writing over the filesystem, you don't want the new system to get corrupted by the old filesystem at shutdown, so I'd go with 50% of the disk for each image, then alternate which partition you flash to. |
| 06:47.32 | alusion | I just installd an encrypted debian on sda 3 and wrote the mbr to it but now grub is broken [no such device] |
| 06:47.43 | themill | notes there are no good virtualisation solutions for ARM around. |
| 06:47.46 | alusion | how do I fix grub to recognize my drives |
| 06:47.55 | blast_hardcheese | alusion: grub2, I hope? |
| 06:48.14 | Richard94 | ok so what would be my best bet |
| 06:48.25 | Richard94 | software wise |
| 06:48.46 | alusion | yes |
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| 06:49.18 | alusion | im booting via super grub2 disk |
| 06:49.21 | alusion | >_> |
| 06:50.16 | blast_hardcheese | alusion: It does sound like encrypted debian is working correctly though |
| 06:50.20 | blast_hardcheese | so that's good news |
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| 06:57.38 | alusion | oh |
| 06:57.41 | alusion | I didn't install grub2 |
| 06:57.43 | alusion | it was grub |
| 06:57.48 | blast_hardcheese | dun dun dun. |
| 06:59.11 | alusion | I don't think I made a /boot when I manually partitioned |
| 06:59.13 | alusion | just swap and / |
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| 06:59.17 | alusion | >_> |
| 06:59.24 | alusion | system installed fine tho |
| 06:59.27 | alusion | no errors |
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| 07:00.25 | Richard94 | Whats the command to uninstall a package |
| 07:00.32 | alusion | I did sudo update-grub2 and |
| 07:00.35 | alusion | dpkg --purge |
| 07:00.36 | dpkg | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, alusion |
| 07:00.43 | hyper_ch | Hmmmm, I have a problem with Wheezy at my server in a remote DC. Load was very high so I rebooted it. Now I don't get access. At my support ticket a tech said that the server only shows a black screen and doesn't react to keyboard inputs. the local system is not booted correctly. however the syslog has no entries at all.... not sure what's going on |
| 07:00.52 | alusion | lol |
| 07:01.18 | pirret | hyper_ch: does it run on OpenVZ container maybe? |
| 07:01.30 | hyper_ch | pirret: no, dedicated server using software raid |
| 07:01.34 | pirret | ok |
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| 07:01.52 | hyper_ch | I'm in a rescue system logged in by ssh and made fsck... nothing unusual there |
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| 07:05.45 | hyper_ch | pirret: without being at the server and checking on monitor whats going on and without syslog entries I have no idea where to start troubleshooting... do you have any idea? |
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| 07:09.03 | subb1 | hi Debian. |
| 07:09.38 | blast_hardcheese | Hey you |
| 07:09.55 | subb1 | I downloaded the postfix source hoping to see debian/rules file so I could see the compile time options. But thesource package for postfix 2.5 (on lenny) doesn't have the file or directory. |
| 07:10.24 | themill | subb1: the source package is 3 files -- it will be in the diff.gz or debian.tar.gz file |
| 07:10.25 | subb1 | Downloaded the soruce from - http://archive.debian.net/lenny/postfix |
| 07:10.46 | blast_hardcheese | subb1: Just apt-get source postfix |
| 07:10.54 | blast_hardcheese | that'll get all the relevant stuffs |
| 07:11.03 | subb1 | oh ok. I'll try that. |
| 07:12.07 | blast_hardcheese | Polkit is taking me back to the good ol' days |
| 07:12.23 | blast_hardcheese | when nothing was documented, nothing worked, and things that should have worked segfault. |
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| 07:16.23 | tomatosalad | hey, will somebody send me a quick email encrypted with the public key for alex@tomatosalad.net? I want to make sure I've moved everything correctly |
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| 07:18.09 | hyper_ch | tomatosalad: ? |
| 07:18.23 | blast_hardcheese | tomatosalad: Sure, lemme get set up to send gpg again |
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| 07:18.47 | tomatosalad | hyper_ch: I'm moving my private keys from OSX, I want to make sure I've done it correctly |
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| 07:19.07 | pfote | you should have mail |
| 07:19.07 | hyper_ch | tomatosalad: what's your public key? |
| 07:19.11 | alusion | why is linux disk encryption done so bad ? |
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| 07:19.29 | Richard94 | is there a free solution to something comparable to WHM |
| 07:20.08 | hyper_ch | alusion: it is bad? never noticed... it even lets me remotely reboot a server |
| 07:20.09 | HumT_ | I insmod e1000e intel gigabit driver in deb 6.0.4 and that's ok. ifconfig eth0 says invalid device. what gives? |
| 07:20.21 | tomatosalad | hyper_ch: it's on the gnupg keyserver |
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| 07:20.39 | tomatosalad | pfote: awesome, thanks |
| 07:20.41 | blast_hardcheese | HumT_: Check dmesg for errors when you insmod |
| 07:20.44 | pfote | yw |
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| 07:20.53 | HumT_ | no errors in dmesg. shows driver loaded ok |
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| 07:22.27 | Richard94 | Is there something like WHM but free? |
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| 07:24.03 | tomatosalad | Richard94: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_hosting_control_panels |
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| 07:25.08 | HumT_ | Richard94: ehcp is fun and interesting but not really like debian goodness. |
| 07:26.29 | Richard94 | I'll take a look at the list. Just need something that supports multiple servers(create an account on a selected server from the control panel) |
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| 07:29.41 | Richard94 | ISPconfig looks good |
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| 07:30.30 | HumT_ | which packages do I need in order to be able to compile a new nic driver? where can I find these said packages? |
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| 07:31.43 | themill | HumT_: any particular reason you're using 6.0.4 and not a newer kernel for squeeze or even upgrading to wheezy here? |
| 07:32.17 | HumT_ | is a custom-ish 5 gpu core system |
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| 07:34.03 | themill | tries and fails to connect these pieces of information |
| 07:34.13 | hyper_ch | pirret: hmmm, htere seems to be a problem with raid: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=29wjqk3&s=5 |
| 07:34.31 | blast_hardcheese | I guess I figured out my previous polkit issues, I purged polkit and started over... now everything's working as expected |
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| 07:34.44 | blast_hardcheese | except /usr/share/polkit/actions doesn't document all of the action ids |
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| 07:35.04 | HumT_ | the distro I am using is written around 6.0.4. I don't have a network connection to get package to change or modify anything. Sooooo need a nic driver. ;0) |
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| 07:35.09 | blast_hardcheese | xfce4 doesn't allow me to shutdown or reboot unless I set Action to * |
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| 07:35.33 | blast_hardcheese | HumT_: ouch |
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| 07:35.56 | HumT_ | yep |
| 07:35.58 | HumT_ | ouch |
| 07:36.12 | HumT_ | I got sneakernet installed tho |
| 07:36.17 | themill | HumT_: well the debian approach to this is to pop a new kernel on a usb stick and it's all done. You might want to ask whomever made this derivative if they offer newer kernels like debian does |
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| 07:36.47 | HumT_ | themill: I'm pretty sure that person is dead. I can't find much ifno on google or asking around |
| 07:37.22 | HumT_ | themill: you have the fine manual linkage for how to put a kernel on it with USB sneakernet? |
| 07:37.30 | blast_hardcheese | I guess that's what you get for using a mafia-maintained distro |
| 07:37.32 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: All I can see is, md2 currently resyncs and the resync was interrupted last time. check cat /proc/mdstat to confirm the resync finished |
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| 07:38.16 | HumT_ | I know that some of the limitations of the kernel are tied into FGLRX and Catalyst limitations. |
| 07:38.20 | themill | HumT_: it should be as simple as downloading the .deb from packages.debian.org (you may also want the headers package) |
| 07:38.40 | HumT_ | themill: good deal. ty. |
| 07:40.01 | HumT_ | now if i knew the package names I could get somewhere |
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| 07:40.40 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: that seems to be it |
| 07:40.51 | themill | ,kernel --release squeeze |
| 07:40.52 | judd | Available kernel versions are: squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
| 07:40.54 | blast_hardcheese | Ugh, polkit should have a syntax checker. |
| 07:41.01 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/65767/ |
| 07:41.01 | HumT_ | a search feature on packages would ne nifty |
| 07:41.07 | HumT_ | be* |
| 07:41.09 | themill | HumT_: linux-image-2.6.32-5-* |
| 07:41.12 | themill | HumT_: there is one |
| 07:41.14 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: how did you see that md2 resyncs? |
| 07:41.19 | simpleusername20 | Is anyone else getting an error about debian's HTTPS certificate? |
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| 07:41.40 | HumT_ | Development, libraries, games? where is it located? |
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| 07:41.57 | hyper_ch | HumT_: search feature? |
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| 07:42.16 | themill | HumT_: the search box works quite well, actually... http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image-2.6.32-5 |
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| 07:42.52 | themill | (filter that down according to your arch) |
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| 07:43.27 | HumT_ | there is no search feature on packages.debian.org. have to go hunt it down. |
| 07:43.47 | themill | HumT_: umm.. there is. |
| 07:44.14 | blast_hardcheese | HumT_: it's at the top of the page, dude |
| 07:44.22 | hyper_ch | Search package directories -> Search on: Package names only Descriptions Source package names |
| 07:44.44 | HumT_ | i bet you call all the ladies dude. |
| 07:44.53 | HumT_ | gee thanks |
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| 07:45.55 | blast_hardcheese | HumT_: Yes? And? |
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| 07:46.47 | HumT_ | blast_hardcheese: no worries....i will port the code to a more modern distribution. good night. |
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| 07:49.22 | simpleusername20 | Could I use buildd to build all the packages I uses locally? I am having trouble accessing some of the information because HTTP keeps redirecting to HTTPS which is configured right (yes I turned off HTTPS everywhere) |
| 07:49.53 | simpleusername20 | *isn't configured right |
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| 07:50.59 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: line 32 |
| 07:51.07 | themill | simpleusername20: buildd.d.o uses a certificate that should be trusted by any browser in debian and can be imported into any other browser if you wish. You can't ask the buildds to do things yourself. |
| 07:51.42 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: and on the first paste/pic the lines after the failed show it in more prosaic wording |
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| 07:52.39 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: d'oh :) but why can't it continue to boot properly? when I mount the array in the rescue system it all shows properly |
| 07:52.43 | simpleusername20 | no i mean can i run my own buildd server and sign the packages for my network? I am worried about the large number of individuals who build packages for this distro |
| 07:53.58 | simpleusername20 | actually signing the packages isn't important just building them locally is |
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| 07:54.46 | simpleusername20 | i would prefer to make my own binaries |
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| 08:03.44 | subb1 | hi again guys. |
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| 08:04.24 | subb1 | Is it possible to find the compile options of Postfix installed via apt on Debian Lenny? Or is examining the source, the only option? |
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| 08:06.04 | sgo11 | hi, I used "fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic" to build the kernel. Now, I need to change one .c file in drivers/hid/. Is that possible to build the change without recompiling from the start? thanks a lot. (PS: actually I am running ubuntu) |
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| 08:07.46 | crane | i'm getting on wheezy always the error "wineserver not found" when running winettricks |
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| 08:08.11 | tomboy64 | subb1: I'm not sure that's of much help; the options aren't registered in the executables (i remember one option being introduced with gcc-(~4.3) that recorded it explicitely, though) and i don't remember an option for that in either dpkg or apt-get. but if you consult the man 5 deb you might find something in the definition for packages. |
| 08:08.12 | crane | i found several bugs about this but they should all be solved if i look at the timestamps and the winetricks_version |
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| 08:09.57 | tomboy64 | sgo11: if you build it manually (via make) and don't perform make clean beforehand, it will only compile necessary changes. and it should complain if something is amiss. |
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| 08:11.01 | sgo11 | tomatosalad, I followed this new guide "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel" to build the kernel. I think "debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic" calls make for me. so I am not sure what I should do now. simply run this debian/rules again? thanks. |
| 08:11.08 | sgo11 | tomboy64, |
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| 08:12.22 | tomboy64 | sgo11: well, it says "fakeroot debian/rules clean" |
| 08:12.47 | tomboy64 | that would clean out all from previous compiles and just leave the source (and your config) |
| 08:13.24 | maxyz | subb1: lenny, really? Download the source from archive.debian.org and check the debian/rules |
| 08:13.34 | sgo11 | tomboy64, that clean is run before "fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic". "fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic" command is actually making the compile. |
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| 08:13.42 | tomboy64 | sgo11: so yeah, `fakeroot debian/rules binary-headers binary-generic` should work then. |
| 08:13.47 | tomboy64 | yes |
| 08:14.00 | sgo11 | tomboy64, ok. thanks. will try that. |
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| 08:14.09 | tomboy64 | but depending on what you changed, things might have to get recompiled anyway. |
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| 08:17.56 | tomboy64 | oh, and sgo11, examine the output. there might appear messages about non-matching parts (don't remember the exact phrasing). that's an indicator you need have clean before recompiling it. |
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| 08:19.06 | sgo11 | tomboy64, by running the command again, I got this error now: "/home/user1/kernel/3.5.0/linux-3.5.0 is not clean, please run 'make mrproper'" what does that mean? |
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| 08:20.16 | tomboy64 | sgo11: mrproper means to clean it completely. apparently the debian system will not let you run a compile without cleaning it out first. |
| 08:20.44 | tomboy64 | (which is kind of sane for production environments) |
| 08:21.07 | sgo11 | tomboy64, ok. so should I try "make" instead of that command? "fakeroot make" ? |
| 08:21.59 | sgo11 | tomboy64, someone else in the ubuntu channel suggests me to run "fakeroot make mrproper". |
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| 08:22.29 | tomboy64 | sgo11: that is actually a more intense clean. |
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| 08:23.43 | sgo11 | tomboy64, I haven't run it yet. thank god. should I run "fakeroot make" now? and what should I do after that? |
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| 08:24.12 | tomboy64 | sgo11: *if* you really want to build without cleaning it out first, i would suggest doing it manually. BUT debian introduced that building way for a reason. so unless you really want to attempt experimenting i strongly advise you to use their build-system, which mandates cleaning, which is the sane way. |
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| 08:25.20 | sgo11 | tomboy64, ok. maybe I should just compile it from start again.... i met another error with "fakeroot make" Configuration file ".config" not found! |
| 08:25.36 | maxyz | sgo11: Upstream supports make deb-pkg, which is quite sane. |
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| 08:25.48 | tomboy64 | manually would mean, changing to the directory, running `make`, `make modules`, `make modules_install` and then moving the created kernel manually, running depmod ... etc. but this *will* mess with your package management since suddenly there appear non-recorded files. |
| 08:26.27 | tomboy64 | sgo11: yes, you're trying to mix manual with debian's method of building. |
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| 08:26.50 | sgo11 | tomboy64, ok. got it. just recompile it then. thanks a lot. |
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| 08:37.30 | subb1 | tomboy64, thanks I'll cehck that. |
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| 09:07.50 | welker | Morning, Is anyone else having extreme slowdowns updating packages via ipv6? |
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| 09:09.21 | Dagger2 | working fine from ftp.uk.debian.org for me |
| 09:11.27 | Dagger2 | (if apt-get is reporting v6 failures, it usually means a) you have no v6 and b) updates are broken over v4 for you) |
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| 09:15.55 | local | hi @ll. Can anyone tell me please, how can I find out which desktop manager my DE is using? |
| 09:16.12 | fishsponge | hello! Is anyone using chrome v 31.0.1650.48 and having issues with the Facebook web site???!? |
| 09:16.28 | local | updatedb && locate lightdm.conf didnt give me any output, so I assume I am not using light DM.but what am I using? |
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| 09:17.59 | fishsponge | basically, whenever I hover over anything on Facebook, including flash games, nothing shows up. If I click on something, I have then clicked on it... every other web site works fine, and facebook works fine in other browsers too... just Facebook is acting weird in Chrome v31 on Linux... |
| 09:18.06 | OpenTokix | Dagger2: or 3) the mirror is misconfigured over v6 =) |
| 09:18.32 | fishsponge | for example, if I hover over a hyperlink, the cursor does not change and the hyperlink does not get underlined... but if I click on it it works! |
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| 09:19.44 | Dagger2 | OpenTokix: it should fall back to v4 in that case |
| 09:19.55 | Dagger2 | though maybe it only does that if the initial connection fails |
| 09:20.00 | OpenTokix | Dagger2: yes it does, but it takes forever and it does it for each individual hit |
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| 09:20.31 | Dagger2 | well it won't be reporting any failures in that case, will it ;) |
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| 09:21.39 | OpenTokix | Dagger2: IT get connection timeout |
| 09:21.50 | OpenTokix | Dagger2: someone said routing errors for v6 is 1% higher then for v4 |
| 09:22.00 | Dagger2 | I don't think it'll report an error in that case |
| 09:22.05 | Dagger2 | apt-get only reports the last connection failure |
| 09:22.28 | Dagger2 | it's a common cause of "why is apt-get reporting v6 failures? I'd better turn v6 off!" in here |
| 09:22.52 | OpenTokix | Dagger2: Define report error btw? |
| 09:22.57 | OpenTokix | Dagger2: not sure I know the difference |
| 09:22.58 | Dagger2 | (because apt-get tries v4 first, and the v4 fails for whatever reason. then it tries v6 last because hey, why not... and it only reports the last failure, which is v6) |
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| 09:23.36 | OpenTokix | apt-get tries v6 first, atleast for me |
| 09:24.29 | Dagger2 | if you don't have v6, it tries v6 last |
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| 09:24.43 | Dagger2 | which makes sense, the problem is that it only reports the last error |
| 09:25.16 | OpenTokix | yes, ofc |
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| 09:25.26 | OpenTokix | People dont have v6? Still using beta internet? ;) |
| 09:25.41 | Dagger2 | this sort of error: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/i18n/Translation-en.bz2 Cannot initiate the connection to ftp.uk.debian.org:80 (2001:470:1f08:80b::2). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:470:1f08:80b::2 80] |
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| 09:26.00 | Dagger2 | (...wait, why is it reporting a v6 address for me? -.-) |
| 09:26.02 | OpenTokix | ok, understand - thanks |
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| 09:26.28 | OpenTokix | That is the ip of the mirror it is reporting |
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| 09:27.20 | Dagger2 | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/i18n/Translation-en.bz2 Cannot initiate the connection to ftp.uk.debian.org:80 (83.142.228.128). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 83.142.228.128 80] |
| 09:27.34 | Dagger2 | ok, there we go, it was something to do with how I blocked access to those IPs |
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| 09:28.49 | Dagger2 | (`ip r a ip dev lo` is ok for v6, but you need to do `ip r a unreachable ip` for v4 or it times out instead of failing quickly... or something along those lines) |
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| 09:56.53 | Tordek | hi |
| 09:58.14 | Tordek | I'm having some issues with a package: console-tools failed to install completely (Failed to issue method call: Unit console-screen.sh.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status console-screen.sh.service' for details) |
| 09:59.04 | Tordek | I can't finish the installation nor remove console-tools, nor replace it for kbd, nor remove console-setup |
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| 10:00.19 | julius | hi |
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| 10:01.07 | julius | ive got a debian running on /dev/sdb, after i copy the system to /dev/sdax how do i get grub to recognize the change? |
| 10:01.16 | julius | grub is already installed on /dev/sda |
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| 10:02.06 | Tordek | sudo update-grub |
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| 10:02.27 | julius | Tordek, yeah, but im booted into the wrong system for that |
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| 10:03.05 | julius | Tordek, how is update-grub supposed to know that i dont want to boot to the debian on /dev/sdb? |
| 10:03.22 | julius | oh wait, it will probably just create boot entries for all systems |
| 10:03.26 | julius | bic |
| 10:03.27 | julius | nice |
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| 10:21.22 | visof | hi |
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| 10:22.17 | visof | when i select any text at any position in the screen , from browser or pdf reader or text editor, where this select text go? |
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| 10:30.41 | maxyz | visof: There are different clipboards, it sort of depends on the program you are using, although, just selecting text normaly hits the X clipboard. |
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| 11:11.37 | JeffJohnson | howdy |
| 11:12.32 | JeffJohnson | can anybody recommend a tool for parsing and installing the build-dependencies for an extracted debian source package (debian/control) automatically? apt-get build-deps doesn't work because it's a local packet, not in any repository |
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| 11:17.59 | Sagi | to obtain updates for selected packages I manually installed from unstable, such as icedove, it should be sufficient to pin the package itself and its dependencies with priority 100, right? |
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| 11:18.59 | mumpitze1 | Sagi: great idea to make your debian installation unmanageable in a few short months. pinning is a stupid idea basically |
| 11:19.05 | mumpitze1 | Sagi: use mozilla.debian.net |
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| 11:20.47 | Sagi | well, mozilla.debian.net advises me to add unstable and experimental, but that does not bring me updates, right? |
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| 11:21.16 | mumpitze1 | Sagi: for which versions exactly? |
| 11:21.26 | Sagi | if I choose 'jessie' and 'release' |
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| 11:21.45 | mumpitze1 | ah, so you already run testing? |
| 11:21.48 | Sagi | I simply want to track the latest released versions of icedove and iceweasel on top of jessie, that's all. |
| 11:22.01 | Sagi | oh, I'm sorry. I joined the wrong channel. |
| 11:22.06 | Sagi | I know about -next |
| 11:22.14 | Sagi | huh |
| 11:22.16 | mumpitze1 | you should already know how to deal with versioning/dependencies without asking when you run testing |
| 11:22.19 | mumpitze1 | !tell Sagi about TUM |
| 11:22.34 | Sagi | oh, this is freenode, excuse me. |
| 11:23.55 | Sagi | this is funny. I wanted to join #debian-next, but picked the wrong network. Now here that forwards me to #debian, completing my confusion. |
| 11:24.00 | Sagi | mumpitze1: thanks anyway :-) |
| 11:24.44 | pfote | imagines indiana jones climbing out of a gully, looking around and saying "Ah, Venice!" |
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| 11:43.12 | briain | There are some issues with mouse mode, but I figure I'll either deal with it or it will force me to get better at keyboard navigation within tmux. Some info on mouse mode |
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| 11:44.06 | briain | sorry, was testing copy/pasting in tmux/weechat. Disregard! |
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| 12:05.46 | D-Boy | Hello, What the 'fast & easy' way to share a remote linux partition/folder (on a remote server per example) with workstations (linux & windows 7) |
| 12:06.15 | CissWit | D-Boy: i use sshfs |
| 12:06.26 | CissWit | it's not very efficient but it fits my needs for linux workstations |
| 12:06.32 | CissWit | for windows, i would use a samba share |
| 12:06.54 | JeffJohnson | nfs? |
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| 12:07.15 | CissWit | require you to expose a share, which i wouldn't do internet. So if it's for internet usage, i'd use a VPN to access the samba server |
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| 12:08.01 | D-Boy | Yeah that's the *fear* |
| 12:08.08 | D-Boy | nfs is easy to mount on windows ? |
| 12:08.33 | ChrisH | windows does not "speak" nfs. use samba instead |
| 12:08.36 | CissWit | i've been having problem, i switched to smb now |
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| 12:08.54 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: 90% resync done.... |
| 12:09.05 | ChrisH | D-Boy: Is this a permanent or temporary solution? |
| 12:09.11 | CissWit | windows 7 supports NFS |
| 12:09.22 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: Cool. Be patient... :) |
| 12:09.31 | hyper_ch | 3TB drives just take a while :) |
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| 12:09.53 | hyper_ch | D-Boy: do you need to have the files to be immediately available? |
| 12:09.58 | D-Boy | ChrisH : Permanent solution, I want to be able to access my data 'easily' through different end devices (without the vpn solution if it's possible) |
| 12:10.05 | D-Boy | hyper_ch : yep |
| 12:10.37 | D-Boy | (the data mostly is projects in development) |
| 12:10.42 | hyper_ch | D-Boy: well, I've been using bitsync lately which works on *nix, *doze, osx, ios, android...... it's nice for syncing but it's not "immediate" |
| 12:10.52 | hyper_ch | bittorrent sync I mean |
| 12:11.09 | hyper_ch | so, not really an option for you I guess |
| 12:11.11 | CissWit | D-Boy: an other way is to use winscp instead of a share mounted as a folder |
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| 12:11.27 | CissWit | to copy file localy using scp |
| 12:11.38 | CissWit | but it's not that great |
| 12:12.19 | D-Boy | CissWit : I have bitvise tunnelier which is perfect on windows for my needs but I'm searching for a tool to 'immediatly' have the last version of my data whenever I'll be |
| 12:12.43 | CissWit | D-Boy: then the share over a vpn or ssh portforward seems the most appropriate |
| 12:13.34 | hyper_ch | I'd also opt for samba/vpn |
| 12:14.03 | D-Boy | Okey, so vpn/ssh/smb seems to be the appropriate solutions |
| 12:14.05 | D-Boy | thanks ^^ |
| 12:14.29 | hyper_ch | well, vpn to make secure connections to smb :) if all is inside a lan, you probably don't need vpn :) |
| 12:14.38 | CissWit | D-Boy: vpn would be much more efficient |
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| 12:14.54 | CissWit | than ssh portfortward |
| 12:15.43 | D-Boy | got it :) |
| 12:15.46 | D-Boy | thx guys |
| 12:15.51 | CissWit | well, it all depends on how you configure your vpn |
| 12:15.52 | hyper_ch | good luck |
| 12:16.06 | hyper_ch | openvpn is quickly deployed :) |
| 12:16.18 | joltcan | racoon is quickly deployed as well |
| 12:16.26 | D-Boy | openvpn it is (I used it in the past) |
| 12:16.29 | hyper_ch | don't know racoon :) |
| 12:16.35 | joltcan | and supported on loads of devices like phones, which might not have openvpn built in |
| 12:16.46 | D-Boy | ah, interesting |
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| 12:16.59 | D-Boy | *google* |
| 12:17.07 | joltcan | Just as an alternative, I've tried to fine the best VPN for my devices :) |
| 12:17.33 | hyper_ch | joltcan :) |
| 12:17.47 | hyper_ch | it's good to have a choice available |
| 12:18.05 | ChrisH | D-Boy: forget it without VPN ... Samba/NFS/sshfs are the things you should chekc/test |
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| 12:18.54 | joltcan | D-Boy: for another dist, but the configs are the same: http://wiki.nikoforge.org/L2TP/IPSec_VPN_Setup_on_Centos_6_(64-bit)_for_use_with_Android_ICS_and_iOS_5_Clients#IPSec_Configuration |
| 12:19.11 | hyper_ch | heard ipsec makes use of dark magic :) |
| 12:19.29 | joltcan | ipsec and openswan, yes. Racoon not so much |
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| 12:20.00 | joltcan | and with pre-shared keys it's a walk in the park to configure. Openswan and certs and stuff is a bit more work |
| 12:20.02 | ChrisH | With Android > 4 OpenVPN is pretty easy setuo |
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| 12:20.06 | joltcan | awesome |
| 12:20.17 | hyper_ch | androide + cmmod :) |
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| 12:20.33 | hyper_ch | cyanogen I mean |
| 12:20.49 | joltcan | I just said racoon because most devices has it native. OpenVPN is usually the better alternative if available |
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| 12:27.02 | deians | hi all, is there any way one can encrypt a partition post installation? |
| 12:27.07 | deians | or certain folders |
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| 12:28.39 | joltcan | deians: If you are using LVM it is possible. You could also create a disk image and encrypt that one. My personal choice though is encfs |
| 12:29.12 | deians | my ideal situation would have been to encrypt swap, home and var |
| 12:29.32 | maxyz | ecryptfs-utils is nice too |
| 12:29.42 | deians | but i had to make do with one partition and no encryption because grub wouldn't install |
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| 12:32.06 | masterSystem | hello everyone |
| 12:32.20 | masterSystem | I do not know this is the right channel but I have a question |
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| 12:32.50 | masterSystem | Is there any linux distribution that does not require a clean power off sequence? The same that happens for DOS. |
| 12:33.01 | masterSystem | I would like to build a MAME cabinet |
| 12:33.18 | babilen | masterSystem: You might be looking for ##linux |
| 12:33.24 | deians | realtime systems |
| 12:33.24 | masterSystem | but DOS is not a choice for the audio |
| 12:33.56 | masterSystem | do you know any RT system supported by MAME? |
| 12:34.10 | deians | not from the top of my head |
| 12:34.11 | babilen | .oO( what is MAME ? ) |
| 12:34.28 | masterSystem | an emulator of arcade machines |
| 12:34.31 | deians | but RT is what your looking for if you want instant off |
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| 12:39.13 | deians | ok... so encfs or encrypt-utils? |
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| 12:42.10 | g105b | Is there a way to use something like /etc/hosts to override MX address lookup on one machine? |
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| 12:50.47 | debiansnortdust | how do i delete partition via live cd? |
| 12:50.57 | OpenTokix | debiansnortdust: what kind of partition? |
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| 12:51.16 | OpenTokix | debiansnortdust: fdisk the device - ie: fdisk /dev/sda if that device has the partition you want to delete |
| 12:51.42 | debiansnortdust | yeah that's what i'm confused about.. the thing about fdisk.. let's say i know i want to delete sda5 |
| 12:51.59 | debiansnortdust | the partition is LVM |
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| 12:53.56 | babilen | debiansnortdust: If you want to delete /dev/sda5 then delete that (using fdisk, gdisk, parted, ... whatev). It doesn't matter what it is as it is primarily a partition. (and that's all you care about) |
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| 12:55.17 | debiansnortdust | right now i'm typing fdisk -l on linus minut;'s termnal to delete a partiion so i can install debian |
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| 12:55.20 | debiansnortdust | since i made a mistake in debian |
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| 12:55.32 | debiansnortdust | im not getting the right output |
| 12:55.41 | babilen | debiansnortdust: It is also unclear what you mean by "is LVM" -- if it is used as physical volume in a LVM you might want to remove it from there first. |
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| 12:55.57 | debiansnortdust | it's used as a logical volume |
| 12:56.14 | debiansnortdust | i did something wrong in the installation that's not letting me logon with my password. and it kept getting low on disk space |
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| 12:56.24 | debiansnortdust | so i think i really screwed up and need to reformat it |
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| 12:56.45 | piece3 | Hello all, I have an issue with just one server in different geographic region. it informs me that it can't install any packages. i.e "E: Package 'sudo' has no installation candidate" |
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| 12:58.02 | OpenTokix | piece3: did you do a apt-get update |
| 12:58.13 | babilen | debiansnortdust: /dev/sda5 wouldn't be used as a logical volume. It could be the only physical volume in a volume group for that logical volume. But then, still .. if you want to delete /dev/sda5 then delete it. If you have problems show us on http://paste.debian.net (/me is off for lunch) |
| 12:58.13 | piece3 | OpenTokix: Yes several times |
| 12:58.19 | OpenTokix | piece3: wierd |
| 12:58.22 | joltcan | OpenTokix: apt-get moo? |
| 12:58.27 | OpenTokix | joltcan: =) |
| 12:58.32 | babilen | dpkg: tell piece3 -about wheezy sources.list |
| 12:58.36 | babilen | dpkg: tell piece3 -about bat |
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| 12:59.23 | newbei | i wrote "startx &; vlock" in my .profile, but unfortunately it doesnt work. am i missing something here? |
| 12:59.41 | piece3 | babilen: I've got the same source list as another install on another server, these are all fresh installs |
| 12:59.49 | debiansnortdust | babilen: i see... |
| 12:59.55 | debiansnortdust | enjoy your lunch |
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| 13:00.56 | babilen | piece3: Please read the <bat> factoid and provide the requested information. :) |
| 13:01.01 | babilen | debiansnortdust: I will :D |
| 13:01.17 | debiansnortdust | errr... when will you be back.. lol |
| 13:01.56 | piece3 | -about bat |
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| 13:02.05 | NK | Hi there |
| 13:02.07 | babilen | debiansnortdust: There are a lot more people in this channel .. just ask the channel and provide whatever information you can provide in a pastebin. |
| 13:02.35 | NK | is there anything I can do for not being spam for bug i posted on bugs.debian.org using my most used email address ? |
| 13:02.54 | NK | i mean by that that my email is indexed thanks to it :( |
| 13:03.06 | debiansnortdust | ok so i'm trying to do what babilen said.... fdisk dev/sda5 to get on the sda5 to delete the partition but it's saying permission denie |
| 13:03.25 | piece3 | Qfaq bat |
| 13:03.29 | piece3 | !\faq bat |
| 13:03.32 | piece3 | !faq bat |
| 13:03.32 | dpkg | bat: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianIRC |
| 13:03.35 | babilen | debiansnortdust: show us (exact command + output) |
| 13:03.58 | babilen | piece3: Our bot sent it to you earlier. Check your private messages or ask it again with "/msg dpkg bat" |
| 13:04.09 | babilen | debiansnortdust: show us (exact command + output) -- are you sure you are running it as root? |
| 13:04.11 | debiansnortdust | fdisk dev/sda5 is what i typed exactly into linux mint terminal |
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| 13:04.21 | debiansnortdust | i cant run ru since it's on live cd |
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| 13:04.33 | piece3 | babilen: Cheers, irc skills a little rusty ;) |
| 13:04.38 | babilen | piece3: np |
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| 13:04.42 | babilen | runs |
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| 13:04.50 | debiansnortdust | the goal is to run mint live cd to delete a debian partition since i cannot access debian normally |
| 13:05.14 | babilen | debiansnortdust: yes, and? you still have to run fdisk as root. |
| 13:05.50 | debiansnortdust | i didn't have the root registration when i install linux mint live cd. it's just plug and plug kind of thing |
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| 13:06.18 | babilen | debiansnortdust: Use a different live cd then, but I would be surprised if it really doesn't allow you to become root. |
| 13:06.33 | ralu | sudo su |
| 13:06.36 | ralu | try this |
| 13:06.50 | debiansnortdust | sudo su did something |
| 13:06.55 | babilen | prefers "sudo -i", but meh. |
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| 13:07.50 | babilen | debiansnortdust: Or just run "sudo fdisk ..." (if sudo is installed and configured) |
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| 13:08.38 | debiansnortdust | tried sudo fdisk dev/sda3 |
| 13:08.45 | debiansnortdust | no such file or directory |
| 13:09.14 | babilen | debiansnortdust: The command would be "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" not "sudo fdisk dev/sda3" |
| 13:09.17 | ralu | fsck wont help |
| 13:09.19 | ralu | in most cases |
| 13:09.30 | ralu | because it is run automaticaly |
| 13:09.33 | ralu | for most filesystems |
| 13:09.36 | babilen | debiansnortdust: Why can't you paste your *exact* commands and their *exact* output to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 13:09.58 | debiansnortdust | because im typing them here |
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| 13:10.36 | debiansnortdust | if it gave a large output then i would but it's not giving me anything |
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| 13:10.53 | debiansnortdust | with or without the slash doesn't make a difference |
| 13:10.59 | debiansnortdust | still no directory found |
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| 13:11.25 | ralu | is it mounted |
| 13:11.33 | debiansnortdust | "fdisk: unable to open dev/sda3: no such file or directory" |
| 13:11.44 | ralu | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.48 | debiansnortdust | ralu: i'm not sure |
| 13:11.50 | ralu | shoul write i think |
| 13:11.56 | babilen | debiansnortdust: The command is "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" not "sudo fdisk /dev/sda3" |
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| 13:12.47 | ralu | you have to provide absolute path, not relative |
| 13:12.51 | babilen | debiansnortdust: Please, just paste whatever (i really don't care) you see in front of you to http://paste.debian.net and please make sure to copy commands exactly as they are mentioned |
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| 13:13.05 | debiansnortdust | ok that requires me to log in again |
| 13:13.10 | debiansnortdust | hold on |
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| 13:14.15 | debiansnort | http://paste.debian.net/65816/ |
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| 13:14.22 | debiansnortdust | there |
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| 13:15.33 | babilen | debiansnortdust: that looks fine |
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| 13:15.56 | debiansnortdust | so what do i do next to remove the partition i want to remove |
| 13:16.05 | babilen | debiansnortdust: "m" for help ;) |
| 13:16.09 | babilen | lunch time |
| 13:16.24 | babilen | (or use a tool that you are comfortable with, such as gparted) |
| 13:16.58 | piece3 | http://paste.debian.net/65818/ |
| 13:17.51 | piece3 | babilen: The setup is a fresh install of the same os installed on 7 servers, only this one is causing an issue and is located in the US |
| 13:18.01 | babilen | dpkg: tell piece3 about proxmox |
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| 13:20.03 | piece3 | babilen: Ta, I thought as this is to do with the package system it would be better in debian :) |
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| 13:22.04 | piece3 | For a debian based question, is it considered better practice to use 'apt-get' or 'aptitude'? |
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| 13:22.57 | mumpitze1 | piece3: /msg dpkg why apt-get why aptitude why not apt-get why not aptitude |
| 13:22.58 | debiansnortdust | so i removed the partition, now i want to create a new partition by cfdisk but it gives me fatal error |
| 13:23.08 | mumpitze1 | debiansnortdust: what exact error? |
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| 13:23.25 | debiansnortdust | it says "fatal error : cannot open disk drive" |
| 13:23.31 | debiansnortdust | when i type cfdisk in terminal |
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| 13:24.05 | mumpitze1 | are you root? what is the full command for cfdisk you are using |
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| 13:25.17 | debiansnortdust | just cfdisk i'm using live cd |
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| 13:25.28 | mumpitze1 | please answer my actual questions |
| 13:25.31 | piece3 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:25.36 | debiansnortdust | i just did |
| 13:25.40 | debiansnortdust | i typed "cfdisk" |
| 13:25.40 | mumpitze1 | no you did not |
| 13:25.55 | debiansnortdust | live cd isn't rooted |
| 13:26.10 | mumpitze1 | "rooted" is meaningless here |
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| 13:26.17 | mumpitze1 | and you need to be root to be able to run cfdisk |
| 13:26.19 | debiansnortdust | then i dunno what you're asking |
| 13:26.54 | debiansnortdust | so i can't create new partitions on live cd? |
| 13:27.07 | mumpitze1 | you can. you haven't read what I just wrote |
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| 13:27.34 | debiansnortdust | not sure what you said was useful |
| 13:27.41 | debiansnortdust | ok i need to be root, how |
| 13:27.42 | babilen | debiansnortdust: As with fdisk you have to run cfdisk as root. How did you achieve that with fdisk again? |
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| 13:28.22 | debiansnortdust | ok |
| 13:28.28 | debiansnortdust | i was typing su cfdisk |
| 13:28.28 | debiansnortdust | my mistake |
| 13:28.37 | debiansnortdust | it's sudo |
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| 13:28.59 | babilen | it is indeed, or just use "sudo -i" to get a root shell that you can use from now on. |
| 13:29.00 | mumpitze1 | so he didn't even run just cfdisk as he wrote *sigh* |
| 13:29.37 | babilen | debiansnortdust: And *please* provide your *exact* commands and their *exact* output. We can not help if we have to double-guess everything you say. |
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| 13:30.12 | debiansnortdust | ok |
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| 13:30.43 | d3xter | hey guys |
| 13:30.53 | d3xter | i'm running gnome 3 and wanted to add a custom menu entry |
| 13:30.58 | debiansnortdust | ok so i want to make 1 primary swap and 1 primary root... how do i differenate swap and root once i enter cfdisk? |
| 13:31.13 | d3xter | but no matter what icon i specify, it gets silently rejected |
| 13:31.13 | d3xter | any hints? |
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| 13:31.45 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: swap partition is a different type |
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| 13:31.50 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: 82 from memory in cfdisk |
| 13:32.12 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: and a linux partition is 83 i think |
| 13:32.47 | boudiccas | ,v mysqldump |
| 13:32.48 | judd | No package named 'mysqldump' was found in i386. |
| 13:33.00 | debiansnortdust | SirLagz: confused about the 82 |
| 13:33.16 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: the type of the partition when you select it |
| 13:33.16 | debiansnortdust | i also see the 82 in the instructions im following |
| 13:33.22 | OpenTokix | judd: it is in the mysql-client package I think |
| 13:33.23 | boudiccas | what debian program works the same as mysqldump please? i.e. getting a dump of mysql |
| 13:33.26 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: hang on a sec |
| 13:33.39 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: are you about to create a partition using cfdisk ? |
| 13:33.51 | debiansnortdust | yeah |
| 13:34.03 | debiansnortdust | i just selected "primary" after i got in cfdisk |
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| 13:34.07 | debiansnortdust | and now it's asking for size |
| 13:34.12 | mumpitze1 | !tell boudiccas about search |
| 13:34.17 | debiansnortdust | it states size (in mb): 1.05 |
| 13:34.35 | debiansnortdust | do i change that value ? |
| 13:34.36 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: yep. After that it should ask for a type IIRC |
| 13:34.37 | SirLagz | yes, you do |
| 13:34.53 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: actually it doesn't ask you for type, you need to select type yourself |
| 13:34.54 | debiansnortdust | what value do i change that to |
| 13:35.02 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: however big you want the partition |
| 13:35.19 | debiansnortdust | strange how it states 1.5 mb |
| 13:35.30 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: you can change it |
| 13:35.40 | debiansnortdust | so if i want the linux partion to be 150 gig |
| 13:35.51 | debiansnortdust | i type in 150,000 mb |
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| 13:36.37 | debiansnortdust | i hope that's right.. |
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| 13:37.31 | debiansnortdust | actually 150 gig is 153600 |
| 13:37.40 | SirLagz | yep |
| 13:37.46 | SirLagz | if you have enough space on the drive that is |
| 13:37.51 | debiansnortdust | i press entered and nothing happned lol |
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| 13:38.45 | ralu | mb is milibit |
| 13:39.26 | debiansnortdust | ohc rap |
| 13:39.33 | debiansnortdust | milibits... |
| 13:39.40 | ralu | m is for milli |
| 13:39.43 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: lol...dw about ralu :P |
| 13:39.52 | debiansnortdust | what do i do now |
| 13:39.55 | SirLagz | ralu: technically yes...but we're dealing with cfdisk here. |
| 13:40.11 | debiansnortdust | i dont see that 153600 anywhere after i entered it |
| 13:40.12 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: what's the first line of partitions information in cfdisk say ? |
| 13:40.20 | debiansnortdust | it says.. |
| 13:40.28 | debiansnortdust | pri/log free space 1.05 |
| 13:40.34 | SirLagz | hm ok |
| 13:40.36 | SirLagz | what's after that ? |
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| 13:40.57 | debiansnortdust | sda1 boot primary ntfs system reserved 104.86 |
| 13:41.21 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: actuallly, post the stuff on a pastebin or something somewhere |
| 13:41.24 | SirLagz | or screenshot it, either way |
| 13:42.02 | debiansnortdust | not sure how to screenshot on linux mint.. |
| 13:42.24 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: hit printscreen |
| 13:42.39 | SirLagz | hopefully mint has a screenshot pre-set |
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| 13:43.58 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: synced, attempted reboot... no luck... asking again for a lara console to be attached :( |
| 13:44.06 | d3xter | where does gnome store the custo menu entry files? |
| 13:44.19 | hyper_ch | weird thing is, in the rescue system the raids mount just fine |
| 13:44.26 | debiansnortdust | SirLagz: i tried posting it on debian paste but it's giving me invalid byte sequence for encoding |
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| 13:44.46 | debiansnortdust | but hold on |
| 13:44.52 | debiansnortdust | i will upload it on imgur |
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| 13:46.05 | debiansnort | SirLagz: http://i.imgur.com/C16ldca.png?1 |
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| 13:48.54 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: Do you have details? Screenshots? |
| 13:49.15 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: still waiting for the lara console to be attached :) it's some kvm thta they use to give access |
| 13:49.25 | tschundeee | anyone got a working play 2.2.1 secure social example? the build.sbt is very picky and I also get a compilation error saying that basically none of the securesocial.controllers is found "object Registration is not a member of package securesocial.controllers" |
| 13:49.35 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: What is lara console? |
| 13:49.42 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/LARA/en |
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| 13:50.23 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: :) |
| 13:50.38 | debiansnortdust | i know i should be doing my google search but im waiting patiently for SirLagz lol |
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| 13:50.43 | debiansnortdust | to verify that image |
| 13:50.45 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: I see. Is the console only avalible after opening a ticket at Hetzner? |
| 13:51.00 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: you need to select the 4th line, and then hit new |
| 13:51.01 | hyper_ch | yes and only if they don't require them already elsewhere |
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| 13:51.35 | debiansnortdust | SirLagz: oh |
| 13:51.37 | hyper_ch | btw, debian is now truly taking the plunge to go xfce? |
| 13:51.39 | debiansnortdust | and select primary |
| 13:51.56 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: depends on if you want more than the 2 partitions or not |
| 13:51.58 | babilen | hyper_ch: Nothing has been decided yet, forget about the headlines |
| 13:52.02 | hyper_ch | (and I wonder why xfce and not lxde) |
| 13:52.13 | hyper_ch | babilen: :) |
| 13:52.18 | mumpitze1 | debian never had a default DE |
| 13:52.29 | babilen | debiansnortdust: Do you plan to use those partitions for Linux? |
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| 13:52.41 | SirLagz | mumpitze1: my Debian installs that I installed with a DE always had gnome pre-installed. Would that could as a Default DE ? |
| 13:52.47 | debiansnortdust | SirLagz: i just 1 swap and 1 root if that makes any sense |
| 13:52.51 | debiansnortdust | i just want* |
| 13:52.59 | debiansnortdust | yeah |
| 13:53.01 | debiansnortdust | those are only for debian |
| 13:53.05 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: yep, If you're sure you don't want any other partitions except swap and root then yea, just use primary partitions for both |
| 13:53.13 | OpenTokix | If they ever change "would you like to update your configfile with mainterners version" from N to Y, I would break so much of my stuff =) |
| 13:53.38 | debiansnortdust | wait, when i select the 4th line.. and hit primary |
| 13:54.04 | debiansnortdust | and i dont know what to do next actually |
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| 13:54.21 | debiansnortdust | tells me the milibits value |
| 13:54.21 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: is it asking for size now ? |
| 13:54.21 | debiansnortdust | yeha |
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| 13:54.33 | debiansnortdust | it already states 327906 for the 4th partition |
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| 13:54.47 | debiansnortdust | assumign that's how much is free now for this partition |
| 13:54.49 | SirLagz | enter in that 150000 or whatever number you had before |
| 13:55.35 | debiansnortdust | ok i entered the value and pressed enter |
| 13:55.42 | debiansnortdust | still nothing happened lol or i dont see it |
| 13:55.43 | SirLagz | okelydoke |
| 13:55.48 | SirLagz | the 4th line should have changed |
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| 13:56.01 | debiansnortdust | its still 327906 |
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| 13:56.09 | babilen | debiansnortdust: These tools typically support entries such as "+5GB" or so -- cfdisk lets you specify the unit in advance too "man cfdisk" and "cfdisk -u GB" |
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| 13:56.30 | debiansnortdust | wait now i have the option to "beginning, end, or cancel" |
| 13:56.38 | SirLagz | choose beginning |
| 13:56.51 | debiansnortdust | oh something happened |
| 13:57.26 | debiansnortdust | ok so.. did i just create boot, how do i create swap? or im completely off |
| 13:57.52 | SirLagz | you just created a partition |
| 13:58.01 | SirLagz | what's the type say atm ? |
| 13:58.06 | debiansnortdust | it says.. |
| 13:58.10 | debiansnortdust | Linux |
| 13:58.16 | SirLagz | ok so that can be your root partition |
| 13:58.19 | SirLagz | how much RAM does your machine have ? |
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| 13:58.29 | debiansnortdust | i think.. 4 ram |
| 13:58.31 | debiansnortdust | 4 gig of ram |
| 13:58.33 | SirLagz | ok |
| 13:58.45 | SirLagz | so we'll create a 4096 MB partition for your swap. |
| 13:58.52 | debiansnortdust | okk |
| 13:59.01 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: now it's booting |
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| 13:59.05 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: just create another partition like you did just then |
| 13:59.28 | debiansnortdust | the first i selected the 4th line this time |
| 13:59.31 | debiansnortdust | select the 5th? |
| 13:59.38 | SirLagz | yep |
| 13:59.46 | debiansnortdust | absolultely sure? |
| 13:59.51 | SirLagz | yep. |
| 13:59.55 | debiansnortdust | ok |
| 14:00.14 | debiansnortdust | do primary again right |
| 14:00.22 | jmd | debiansnortdust: You need to download some more. |
| 14:00.23 | SirLagz | yep |
| 14:00.27 | debiansnortdust | alright |
| 14:00.35 | debiansnortdust | and 4096 mb |
| 14:00.44 | debiansnortdust | it stays 174308 now |
| 14:00.48 | debiansnortdust | states* |
| 14:00.57 | SirLagz | yep just change it to 4096 |
| 14:01.13 | debiansnortdust | done |
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| 14:01.19 | debiansnortdust | now i have two linux primaries |
| 14:01.29 | SirLagz | that's fine. select the second linux primary |
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| 14:01.36 | SirLagz | then choose type |
| 14:01.51 | debiansnortdust | ok |
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| 14:02.05 | SirLagz | then hit enter, then enter in number 82 |
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| 14:02.32 | debiansnortdust | not sure if i did it wrong |
| 14:02.34 | debiansnortdust | right* |
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| 14:02.48 | SirLagz | whats the type say for the fourth partition ? |
| 14:03.03 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: http://imgur.com/LYEfLmI |
| 14:03.20 | debiansnortdust | party type = primary fs type = linux swap/solaris |
| 14:03.33 | SirLagz | ok, so now that's your swap partiton |
| 14:03.44 | debiansnortdust | so that's what the 82 does, is assigning it to swap |
| 14:03.48 | SirLagz | yes |
| 14:03.54 | debiansnortdust | nice |
| 14:04.06 | debiansnortdust | so how do i write the changes |
| 14:04.12 | SirLagz | select write |
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| 14:04.31 | debiansnortdust | does it matter if i select the 4th or 5th? |
| 14:04.35 | SirLagz | nope |
| 14:05.03 | debiansnortdust | i typed yes and entered, nothing happened |
| 14:05.10 | SirLagz | that's normal |
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| 14:05.22 | debiansnortdust | so do i boot out myself |
| 14:05.24 | SirLagz | if you quit, and go back into cfdisk, you should still see the new linux partitions |
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| 14:05.37 | debiansnortdust | can i write again just to be sure i did it right |
| 14:05.41 | SirLagz | sure |
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| 14:05.54 | debiansnortdust | ok crap |
| 14:06.02 | debiansnortdust | something went wrong, the linux swap vanished |
| 14:06.12 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: its unreadable for me. |
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| 14:07.43 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: klick on it, it'll be a bit bigger |
| 14:08.10 | debiansnortdust | ok SirLagz i will reboot now |
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| 14:08.36 | debiansnortdust | i just redid the adding 82 to 5th partition again. just because it went missing |
| 14:08.41 | debiansnortdust | wrote it |
| 14:08.55 | debiansnortdust | the question now is, how do i reboot out of live cd |
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| 14:09.26 | SirLagz | in the terminal, type reboot |
| 14:09.42 | debiansnortdust | gotcha |
| 14:09.43 | debiansnortdust | sudo reboot |
| 14:10.03 | debiansnortdust | strange it just rejected my cd |
| 14:10.06 | debiansnortdust | out of the driver |
| 14:10.13 | SirLagz | yeah some livecds do that |
| 14:10.41 | mumpitze1 | SirLagz: has he already create a filesystem on these new partitions? and if not, why did he create these partitions in the first place? |
| 14:11.01 | SirLagz | mumpitze1: nope. I have no idea what's actually going on. I just helped him create partitions. |
| 14:11.12 | SirLagz | I'd assume whatever he's installing would create the filesystems though |
| 14:11.20 | mumpitze1 | let's hope so |
| 14:11.35 | SirLagz | I haven't seen a Linux install *not* create a filesystem lol |
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| 14:12.19 | SirLagz | grr work VPN screwing up my network connections |
| 14:12.19 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: even the enlarged pic is unreadable... to small |
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| 14:14.25 | debiansnortdust | alright so im finally back on |
| 14:14.25 | SirLagz | work vpn added 22 routes to my pc =/ |
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| 14:15.22 | debiansnortdust | i went back into cfdisk and i see they are still there, the linux/swap |
| 14:15.58 | SirLagz | cool |
| 14:16.03 | debiansnortdust | so that generally means it worked |
| 14:16.06 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: two things: (1) EXT4-fs (md1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null) failed. and then it stops again at quotas |
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| 14:16.07 | SirLagz | debiansnortdust: yep |
| 14:16.12 | debiansnortdust | ;D |
| 14:16.23 | debiansnortdust | good learning experience |
| 14:16.41 | debiansnortdust | ok now i want to preformat the partitions |
| 14:16.43 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: that's teh fstab http://paste.debian.net/65834/ |
| 14:17.35 | debiansnortdust | how do i make mkswap /dev/sda4 on swap partition and mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda3 on root partition? |
| 14:17.52 | SirLagz | those are the commands you ru |
| 14:17.53 | SirLagz | run* |
| 14:17.59 | debiansnortdust | from the cfdisk? |
| 14:18.02 | SirLagz | nope |
| 14:18.06 | SirLagz | from the normal terminal |
| 14:18.08 | SirLagz | you will need sudo |
| 14:18.11 | debiansnortdust | oh |
| 14:18.22 | debiansnortdust | just type those commands in and it will do it |
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| 14:18.27 | SirLagz | theoretically |
| 14:18.40 | debiansnortdust | lo |
| 14:18.42 | debiansnortdust | ok let me try |
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| 14:19.44 | debiansnortdust | I get "mkswap warning: /dev/sda4 is misaligned |
| 14:20.12 | debiansnortdust | then setting up swapspace version 1 size = 4000180 |
| 14:20.18 | debiansnortdust | i assume it's fine? |
| 14:20.21 | SirLagz | yep |
| 14:21.15 | debiansnortdust | alright got them both |
| 14:21.31 | debiansnortdust | ok now im going to instal ldebian |
| 14:21.35 | debiansnortdust | hope evrything works |
| 14:21.37 | debiansnortdust | thanks SirLagz |
| 14:21.44 | debiansnortdust | for being very patient with me |
| 14:21.55 | SirLagz | no problems |
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| 14:22.05 | debiansnortdust | ;) |
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| 14:22.27 | babilen | debiansnortdust: btw, why didn't you do all this in the Debian installer? It comes with a very user friendly (and IMHO easy to use) partitioning tool called partman. |
| 14:22.37 | babilen | dpkg: tell debiansnortdust -about install debian |
| 14:23.08 | debiansnortdust | babilen: i honestly dont kow because i installed debian onto a disc a few months ago and never got around installing it until now |
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| 14:23.12 | debiansnortdust | so im just workign with what i got |
| 14:23.34 | hefest | im having some problems with debian jessie grep http://www.pastebin.ca/2476076 |
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| 14:24.11 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: I disabled now quota from the fstab and now it stops at ntpd |
| 14:24.25 | babilen | hefest: You want #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for testing/unstable support (cf. /topic) |
| 14:24.30 | hyper_ch | actually, it worked now |
| 14:24.46 | babilen | debiansnortdust: Well, fwiw .. the installer comes with a nice partitioning tool that you *will* have to use during the installation. |
| 14:24.52 | hefest | babilen: ok, but can you please run that same test on wheezy. i dont have it at hand |
| 14:25.20 | debiansnortdust | babilen: i think that's where i messed up on initially |
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| 14:25.22 | debiansnortdust | debian wasn't running properly after i installed it |
| 14:25.27 | babilen | hefest: I am not running wheezy |
| 14:25.33 | petern_ | hefest, what's the problem with grep? |
| 14:25.38 | babilen | hefest: What issue are you having? |
| 14:25.48 | babilen | debiansnortdust: That could have many reasons :) |
| 14:25.56 | hefest | petern_: look at the paste. grep basic regex is not matching for some reason |
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| 14:26.10 | debiansnortdust | this time im going to install with your guidance because i followed a random googled source |
| 14:26.19 | debiansnortdust | i did some stuff with LVM |
| 14:26.21 | hefest | petern_: its breaking some init scripts |
| 14:26.22 | debiansnortdust | i knew it was a mistake |
| 14:26.26 | babilen | debiansnortdust: Follow the installation guide and nothing else :) |
| 14:26.37 | debiansnortdust | i did |
| 14:26.37 | babilen | dpkg: tell debiansnortdust -about install guide |
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| 14:27.11 | petern_ | hefest, ok. middle one returns test=blabla on Wheezy. |
| 14:27.17 | babilen | debiansnortdust: Do you have a working internet connection during the installation? Do you know which desktop environment (if any) you want to install? How do you connect to the internet? |
| 14:27.19 | hefest | petern_: so its just jessie affected |
| 14:27.25 | debiansnortdust | yah |
| 14:27.30 | hefest | petern_: where do i report this? |
| 14:27.31 | debiansnortdust | im installing kde |
| 14:27.45 | debiansnortdust | since that's just the arguably the best desktop environment to be operating on |
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| 14:28.02 | petern_ | Can't tell you |
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| 14:30.17 | hefest | petern_: im compiling it from source package on jessie |
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| 14:31.59 | hefest | petern_: does the same |
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| 14:32.52 | debiansnortdust | ok now i have a question' im at the partition disk in my graphical installer and on the bottom/5th partition it says unusable 170 gig |
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| 14:33.07 | debiansnortdust | did i do something wrong |
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| 14:34.06 | hefest | petern_: funny, rules file of the both packages is almost identical |
| 14:35.26 | babilen | hefest: I would recommend to use "grep "^[[:space:]]*test[[:space:]]*="" btw ... you can also use "[\s]*" if you fancy that ... |
| 14:35.31 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: Network connection is given? Cable properly connected? Try booting single user mode and check network cable and setup. ethtool might help |
| 14:36.20 | hefest | babilen: im just trying to figure out why init scripts for some of the services installed from debian package are not working anymore |
| 14:36.50 | babilen | hefest: Some of our init scripts are broken? |
| 14:37.06 | hefest | babilen: yes, uwsgi |
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| 14:39.14 | pthreat | I'm trying to configure logrotate to rotate the log files in place with the noolddir option. However if I use something like /var/log/* it will also re rotate the log files. So I was trying to do something like /var/log/!(*.gz) however this doesn't seems to be working, any ideas? |
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| 14:41.52 | babilen | hefest: Has that been reported? |
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| 14:42.18 | debiansnortdust | what does it mean to mount a partition on /? |
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| 14:42.48 | hefest | babilen: no sure, im about to check |
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| 14:43.41 | babilen | debiansnortdust: The *filesystem* on that partition will be used as root filesystem (it would contain everything that doesn't have a filessytem on its own) |
| 14:44.00 | babilen | debiansnortdust: (simplified, but hopefully easier to understand) |
| 14:44.10 | debiansnortdust | yeah understood |
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| 14:44.30 | debiansnortdust | i have to ask, how do i mount partition to / |
| 14:44.52 | debiansnortdust | oh |
| 14:45.09 | debiansnortdust | you just click on the partition you want to mount |
| 14:45.36 | debiansnortdust | there are a lot of filesystems i can choose |
| 14:45.53 | Elemeno-work | ext4 is a good choice |
| 14:46.01 | debiansnortdust | the first one |
| 14:46.01 | babilen | yes, ext4 please |
| 14:46.11 | debiansnortdust | ext4 journaliing file system |
| 14:46.12 | debiansnortdust | ok! |
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| 14:46.16 | Elemeno-work | how large are you making your "/" partition? |
| 14:46.40 | debiansnortdust | do i format the partition? |
| 14:46.44 | Elemeno-work | you're at an important step - Can't make it too small |
| 14:46.46 | Elemeno-work | yes |
| 14:46.48 | debiansnortdust | or that's already been done |
| 14:47.01 | debiansnortdust | ok |
| 14:47.13 | Elemeno-work | how large is the harddrive? |
| 14:47.20 | debiansnortdust | 500 gig |
| 14:47.28 | babilen | debiansnortdust: yes, you do. "formatting" simply means "creating a filesystem" on it. |
| 14:47.41 | debiansnortdust | wait,now i need to choose mount point for ext4.. do i select the first one which is /-the root file system |
| 14:47.57 | Elemeno-work | What is the purpose of the machine? |
| 14:48.04 | debiansnortdust | just to learn debian |
| 14:48.07 | debiansnortdust | laptop |
| 14:48.23 | debiansnortdust | dual booting |
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| 14:48.47 | Elemeno-work | ok cool - I'd make "/" at least 30GB and "/var" at least 30GB as well |
| 14:49.11 | babilen | 30GB var is a bit generous |
| 14:49.15 | Elemeno-work | if you're just starting out, you may as well just use one partition for everything |
| 14:49.26 | Elemeno-work | bab - I've hit that limit before |
| 14:49.33 | debiansnortdust | so i need to resize the partition which is currently at 153. gig |
| 14:49.35 | debiansnortdust | ? |
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| 14:50.03 | Elemeno-work | to be safe - just go with guided partitioning |
| 14:50.20 | debiansnortdust | that wont require me to wipe out the entire system along with windows |
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| 14:50.33 | debiansnortdust | manually only to dual boot |
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| 14:51.03 | Elemeno-work | hmm, I thought there was an option in guided to only use the remaining space |
| 14:51.10 | sgo11 | I have a ubuntu question. hopefully, I can ask here since nobody replied me in ubuntu channel yet. |
| 14:51.16 | Elemeno-work | is NTFS currently using up the whole disk? |
| 14:51.25 | sgo11 | I have two machines. Two have the same ubuntu and kernel version. I added a module by compiling the kernel in one PC. it's a hid module. it works fine in that machine. Now, I copy the kernel .deb packages to the second machine and install the compiled .deb kernel directly. The module works with a problem. can anyone tell me why? how to fix? do I have to compile the kernel in every machine? |
| 14:51.32 | debiansnortdust | ah i'm not sure @ Elemeno-work |
| 14:51.34 | hplc | im looking for the tool to check installed packages against the exploit / vulnerabilities database, but i forgot the name of the tool |
| 14:51.37 | mumpitze1 | sgo11: no you can not. /msg dpkg ubuntu /msg dpkg based on debian. please ask in #ubuntu again |
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| 14:52.02 | mumpitze1 | sgo11: you can also ask in ##linux |
| 14:52.03 | debiansnortdust | it should be though right ,i never mess with heavy modfiications on windows etc |
| 14:52.04 | debiansnortdust | shouldnt**** |
| 14:52.22 | Elemeno-work | hmm, did you install windows? or is it factory installed? |
| 14:52.25 | sgo11 | mumpitze1, sorry that I have already posted the question. it's related to kernel compile and module. I think i can ask here. it should be the same thing. |
| 14:52.27 | babilen | debiansnortdust: It would require you to do that, so please *do not* do it if you want to keep your Windows. It is okay to have a root filesystem with 153GB, but most of us wouldn't consider that optimal. It is okay to use this right now if all you want is to learn Debian ... partitioning (or rather the best way to actually separate the space and how to organise it) is a hard task and there simply isn't a "this is always best" |
| 14:53.07 | Elemeno-work | ^ +1 babilen |
| 14:53.08 | debiansnortdust | i can sacrifice 150 gig for linux :) |
| 14:53.08 | mumpitze1 | sgo11: you cannot ask here and no one will answer. please use #ubuntu or ##linux. thank you |
| 14:53.12 | babilen | debiansnortdust: I mean if you would ask me I would recommend to use use LVM, but you are in no position to understand that right now and a single partition approach is certainly the easiest. It *has* it's problems though, but it is okay. |
| 14:53.32 | debiansnortdust | yeah i was messing with lvm the first install and that really messed me up i think |
| 14:53.43 | buu | Whens the last time a modern system got /var filled up |
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| 14:54.02 | buu | And thus broke the system |
| 14:54.17 | babilen | debiansnortdust: My personal approach typically includes a generous amount for / + /var + /home with /home being the largest if I expect a lot of user data (e.g. on a personal machine) |
| 14:54.18 | mumpitze1 | buu: mail, web, database server. easy :) |
| 14:54.30 | debiansnortdust | you mention /var |
| 14:54.31 | debiansnortdust | what is that? |
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| 14:54.39 | debiansnortdust | where is that supposed to be modified at |
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| 14:55.01 | debiansnortdust | is the /var for swap? |
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| 14:55.31 | buu | debiansnortdust: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard#Directory_structure |
| 14:55.35 | babilen | debiansnortdust: LVM allows you to distribute available space later as the need arises and there are certainly advantages to having a separate /var (e.g. if a program just spams the logs and eats all the available disk space), but doing this with partitions is 1. More complicated and 2. Quite rigid and hard to adapt to changing situations. |
| 14:55.59 | debiansnortdust | oh so basically lvm allows you to have multiple linux distros installed |
| 14:56.10 | mumpitze1 | debiansnortdust: no |
| 14:56.22 | babilen | debiansnortdust: /var is for "variable" data .. think logs, mails, package caches, ... data that frequently changes. |
| 14:56.28 | debiansnortdust | i see.. |
| 14:56.36 | debiansnortdust | but where do i f ind that |
| 14:56.42 | debiansnortdust | i mean where is /var lol |
| 14:57.02 | mumpitze1 | it says it all: /var one level below / |
| 14:57.03 | babilen | debiansnortdust: So, my personal recommendation for now is: use a single partition for the entire system. It is easy enough for you to manage and once you *know* that you want something else you will have the skills to configure that. |
| 14:57.30 | debiansnortdust | babilen: so you recommend i wipe out windows |
| 14:57.57 | debiansnortdust | if that's what you mean |
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| 14:58.23 | martin-_- | hi, I get intltoolize: not found |
| 14:58.28 | martin-_- | in which package is this command? |
| 14:58.46 | mumpitze1 | no. if you just install debian on its own partition. you will be able to dualboot windows or debian just fine. just keep your windows partitions as they are |
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| 14:58.48 | babilen | debiansnortdust: No, not at all. I recommend to partition as much of your free space as you want to give to Debian as a single partition, create a single ext4 filesystem and use that as / |
| 14:58.54 | mumpitze1 | !tell martin-_- about search |
| 14:59.08 | babilen | debiansnortdust: Do *not* touch your windows partitions. At all. |
| 14:59.12 | babilen | (if you care about it) |
| 14:59.14 | buu | martin-_-: apt-cache search intltool |
| 14:59.22 | debiansnortdust | i dooo care about it |
| 14:59.31 | debiansnortdust | ok so |
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| 14:59.53 | debiansnortdust | the thing that confused me was the /var thing, I thought it's something I need to assign to |
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| 15:00.00 | debiansnortdust | now i get the impression /var is built in |
| 15:00.21 | debiansnortdust | since i dont see /var anywhere after clicking on eaach partitions |
| 15:00.29 | martin-_- | buu, there is no package with the command intltoolize: not found provided |
| 15:00.43 | mumpitze1 | debiansnortdust: you can put every directory in linux on its own partition, but you don't have to. in your case it's a good idea to only have a single partition and a few GB of swap at most |
| 15:00.56 | mumpitze1 | martin-_-: you didn't read |
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| 15:01.19 | buu | martin-_-: Read what the bot told you, do a package search |
| 15:01.27 | debiansnortdust | mumpitze1: how do i put it in a single partition |
| 15:01.36 | debiansnortdust | oh and i found /var |
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| 15:01.39 | debiansnortdust | same place where i found / |
| 15:01.49 | mumpitze1 | debiansnortdust: by creating only a single partition and then using it for /. you already did that with cfdisk |
| 15:02.35 | debiansnortdust | so i have two partitions now. one is for root and one for swap... and / for root and the swap is just there |
| 15:02.44 | zykotick9 | martin-_-: if it makes you feel better, i wasn't able to find it with "apt-cache search intltoolize" myself ;) |
| 15:03.13 | martin-_- | yep i think there is no package for this command |
| 15:04.14 | babilen | debiansnortdust: Sounds about right. |
| 15:04.18 | buu | martin-_-: You're kind of dim. |
| 15:05.27 | debiansnortdust | ok i think im good to finish partitioning and write changes |
| 15:06.17 | babilen | debiansnortdust: how large is your swap? did you use ext4 for / ? |
| 15:06.28 | debiansnortdust | it is.. |
| 15:06.32 | debiansnortdust | the size for swap 4 gig |
| 15:06.39 | debiansnortdust | ext4 is for / correct |
| 15:06.51 | debiansnortdust | ext4 = 153 gig |
| 15:07.23 | debiansnortdust | sounds good? everything good? |
| 15:08.27 | babilen | sounds good |
| 15:08.34 | debiansnortdust | alright |
| 15:08.36 | debiansnortdust | gonna write it |
| 15:09.02 | debiansnortdust | wait i got a emssage |
| 15:09.37 | debiansnortdust | "the partition /dev/sda3 assigned by / starts at an offsset of 3584 bytes from the minimum alighment for this disk, which may lead to weak poor performance" |
| 15:10.31 | debiansnortdust | what does that mean |
| 15:11.13 | debiansnortdust | ok it's suggesting that i go back and delete the partition |
| 15:11.26 | debiansnortdust | and recreate it int he same position with the same settings |
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| 15:12.21 | mumpitze1 | if you do this, you will get the warning again |
| 15:12.25 | debiansnortdust | really |
| 15:12.28 | debiansnortdust | so.. just leave it? |
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| 15:12.42 | debiansnortdust | im at the / and it's already set to format |
| 15:12.46 | mumpitze1 | yes really. if you do something, get a warning, go back and do the same again, you get the same warning again. computers are that way |
| 15:12.58 | debiansnortdust | ok ill just ignore it and continue |
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| 15:13.36 | debiansnortdust | huh it wont let me continue |
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| 15:14.04 | debiansnortdust | "do you wnt to return to the partitioning menu" I select no and hit continue] |
| 15:14.13 | debiansnortdust | and it brings me back to the partition menu |
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| 15:16.08 | D-Boy | Time to switch to linux GUI ! I use debian everyday but only on servers (no gui) I suppose if I want to use a linux GUI it would be easier & less confusing to use debian also as a gui OS on my laptop, The laptop is a DELL latitude D620, is it hardware-compatible with debian 7 ? also if you guys have any lightweight WM to suggest ? |
| 15:16.13 | debiansnortdust | so any idea what's going on? why can't i move on lol |
| 15:16.23 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
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| 15:17.10 | hefest | babilen: bugreport filled in |
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| 15:17.30 | ShapeShifter499 | what do I do if a kernel module is in the mainline but not in debian's version? |
| 15:18.06 | ShapeShifter499 | I'm a ubuntu convert who just booted into a system with no working trackpad |
| 15:18.21 | mumpitze1 | ShapeShifter499: is it maybe not in there due to lower kernel version? |
| 15:18.27 | ShapeShifter499 | *ubuntu to debian convert |
| 15:18.46 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, it's in kernel.org |
| 15:18.53 | mumpitze1 | ShapeShifter499: that's not what I asked |
| 15:19.01 | mumpitze1 | what kernel module is it? |
| 15:19.11 | mumpitze1 | name of the .ko file |
| 15:19.16 | ShapeShifter499 | mumixam, chromeos_laptop |
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| 15:19.49 | ShapeShifter499 | had this working with only a modprobe in ubuntu so forgive if I'm a bit slow to get up to speed |
| 15:20.02 | ShapeShifter499 | never had to mess with modules much |
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| 15:21.11 | mumpitze1 | ShapeShifter499: http://vger.kernel.org/~davem/chromebook_pixel_linux.txt read from point 10) onwards |
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| 15:21.49 | mumpitze1 | provided you have already debian wheezy installed |
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| 15:21.57 | ShapeShifter499 | mumixam, I found that but I'm not on a pixel, not sure if that will work |
| 15:22.04 | mumpitze1 | it will |
| 15:22.05 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, * |
| 15:22.21 | mumpitze1 | you can create the module, just not install it obviously |
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| 15:23.07 | debiansnortdust | mumpitze1: any idea why i can't proceed |
| 15:23.26 | mumpitze1 | no. I don't trust what you report so I can't say |
| 15:24.10 | babilen | hefest: merci :) |
| 15:24.16 | debiansnortdust | :| |
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| 15:26.36 | jhutchins_wk | debiansnortdust: My guess would be that you didn't apply the partitioning selections you made, but I've only run the installer a few times. |
| 15:26.49 | debiansnortdust | i reapplied |
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| 15:27.25 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, got to step 12 and nothing happened when I insmod the modules :/ |
| 15:27.42 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, I do have wheezy + gnome installed |
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| 15:27.44 | mumpitze1 | and how is that bad? nothing happening means no error has occurred |
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| 15:28.01 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, I mean my trackpad is still null |
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| 15:28.52 | mumpitze1 | check your dmesg output. and have you restarted X? |
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| 15:30.15 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, dmesg shows nothing new, still shows last line from connecting to wifi |
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| 15:30.41 | mumpitze1 | ShapeShifter499: check lsmod then? |
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| 15:31.25 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, appears to be loaded based off that |
| 15:31.38 | debiansnortdust | yeah double checked everything , not sure why it wont let me install |
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| 15:32.19 | debiansnortdust | oh |
| 15:32.28 | debiansnortdust | now it's working for some weird reason |
| 15:32.33 | debiansnortdust | after c licking the mouse 100 times really fast |
| 15:32.34 | Pricey | http://blog.linuxjunkie.com/blog/2012/04/06/slow-ssh-and-ping-related-to-reverse-dns/ What's the real solution? I'm guessing I have a bad dns server 'somewhere'...? (All ssh logins take ages to prompt for authentication, using fqdn or ip... change in that blog post makes everything instant.) |
| 15:32.35 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, "used by" shows 0 |
| 15:32.41 | mumpitze1 | ShapeShifter499: and the atmel* module? |
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| 15:32.53 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, same |
| 15:33.30 | mumpitze1 | and X is restarted? |
| 15:33.42 | ShapeShifter499 | I was about to do so |
| 15:33.50 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, brb |
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| 15:34.05 | mumpitze1 | *sigh* |
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| 15:36.38 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1,"service gdm3 restart" should suffice right? |
| 15:37.17 | misu | when using a live cd, how can i make sure that no information is stored on the live cd after i used it? i know it's unlikely since the cd can only be burned from iso once... but still? |
| 15:38.02 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1,trackpad still does not work after this |
| 15:40.07 | mumpitze1 | then check your Xorg.0.log |
| 15:40.43 | mumpitze1 | misu: it's a live CD. you cannot write _anything_ to a burnt CD.not even a CDRW easily |
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| 15:42.46 | misu | ok; how about making sure that nothing is written on a permanent storage? (hard disk for instance); i cannot unplug it though; is umounting the hard disk enough? or are there other things to look at? also how can i recognize the hard disk before umounting it? (or making sure it's unmounted, because it should be by default) |
| 15:43.02 | mumpitze1 | do not mount the harddisk or unmount it |
| 15:43.12 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, I don't see any of those modules or any mention of a trackpad in Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/nMsPstA6 |
| 15:43.17 | mumpitze1 | harddisks are /dev/sdXX |
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| 15:43.47 | misu | mumpitze1: ok, so unless i plug something else via USB for instance, i should be fine if all sdXX are unmounted? |
| 15:44.01 | mumpitze1 | !tell ShapeShifter499 about pastebin |
| 15:44.03 | mumpitze1 | !tell ShapeShifter499 about pastebin.com |
| 15:44.13 | debiansnortdust | finallllly im on debian |
| 15:44.13 | mumpitze1 | !tell ShapeShifter499 about pastebin.com |
| 15:44.25 | debiansnortdust | thanksssss channel for being so helpful |
| 15:44.57 | kelpie | i figured out after installing nfs server something called dhclient-script spawns another instance of dhclient |
| 15:45.08 | kelpie | which brokes my network connection |
| 15:45.18 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, sorry http://paste.debian.net/65854/ |
| 15:45.48 | kelpie | what is that and how can i disable it? |
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| 15:48.24 | kelpie | why is #debian-next invite only |
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| 15:48.43 | zykotick9 | kelpie: wrong network, it's on oftc not freenode |
| 15:49.00 | kelpie | lol didn't switch |
| 15:49.02 | Nik05 | kelpie #debian-next is on OFTC |
| 15:49.18 | Nik05 | oh zykotick9 already said that |
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| 15:50.16 | misu | mumpitze1: sorry but just to be extra safe could you confirm? all i have to do is make sure that all sdXX are unmounted and i should be fine? is there nothing else to worry about, like some stuff getting stored in caches, or swap or whatever else there is on the computer? |
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| 15:51.00 | misu | for instance when i create a file while i'm on the live cd, the file is stored on the RAM? and completely destroyed after reboot right? |
| 15:51.12 | mumpitze1 | ShapeShifter499: remove your MS mouse and check /dev/input/event* if anything exists |
| 15:51.45 | mumpitze1 | misu: please read what I wrote above |
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| 15:53.07 | misu | you said that nothing could be stored on the live CD, and to make sure that harddisks (sdXX) are unmounted, did i miss something? |
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| 15:54.27 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, with and without my usb mouse http://paste.debian.net/65855/ |
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| 15:58.53 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, I have to go, maybe I'll try a newer kernel like http://liquorix.net/ |
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| 15:59.38 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, any reasons I should not? |
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| 16:02.02 | ShapeShifter499 | mumpitze1, well I'm going to try that kernel later, anyways I have to go. Thank you for trying to help out |
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| 16:06.35 | misu | mumpitze1: i was told on #security that a malicious program could mount and write to the hard disk; the only way to really prevent anything being written to the hard disk would then be to unplug it? |
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| 16:17.03 | debiansnortdust | does it matter whether i type apt-get dist-upgrade or apt-get upgrade |
| 16:17.14 | debiansnortdust | i did the second one and it's upgrading |
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| 16:17.30 | debiansnortdust | or both are completely different thing |
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| 16:19.37 | mumpitze1 | misu: run a kernel which has no ext4/fat/ntfs filesystems and no drivers for harddisks, and can't load modules then |
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| 16:26.50 | sharky_ | debiansnortdust, use "apt-get upgrade" to upgrade your system, dist-upgrade is used when you upgrade to next distribution say debian 7 to 8 |
| 16:27.42 | debiansnortdust | ahhhh |
| 16:27.43 | debiansnortdust | thanks |
| 16:27.46 | zykotick9 | sharky_: ahhh dist-upgrade is very misunderstood. it's used for more then what upgrading to new releases! debiansnortdust |
| 16:27.48 | debiansnortdust | i realized they were different |
| 16:28.21 | debiansnortdust | yeah now i understand why that person told me to do dist-upgrade after redirecting its source list |
| 16:28.48 | debiansnortdust | that person = dovermo |
| 16:29.24 | zykotick9 | debiansnortdust: if you change something in sources dist-upgrade would ususally make sense (if you are expect version upgrades to packages) |
| 16:29.38 | sharky_ | yep there are tutorial on the net, but one of the thing is to change also your sources for the new dist |
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| 16:30.26 | sharky_ | zykotick9, you are welcome to explain the use of dist-upgrade |
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| 16:31.26 | zykotick9 | sharky_: you should research it! it updates/removes/version_upgrades packages! it's important to understand the differences between it, and regular upgrade. you might need it someday ;) |
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| 16:32.30 | sharky_ | zykotick9, well I have read tutorials how to upgrade to new distribution with it :) |
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| 16:44.49 | Richlv | heya. we would like to fix a longstanding issue in zabbix, but there is some confusion about lintian check. hyphen-used-as-minus-sign only checks single, space-prefixed dashes, although no description seems to support that approach |
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| 16:44.57 | Richlv | https://support.zabbix.com/browse/ZBX-5166 has some more discussion on that |
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| 16:45.14 | Richlv | so... is it really only single dashes that follow space, or is it all of them ? |
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| 16:47.59 | jordanm | Richlv: I don't like it needs to follow a space |
| 16:48.16 | jordanm | Richlv: I am pretty sure lintian will detect something like [-a|-b|-c] as wrong |
| 16:48.38 | vampi-the-frog | hi guys. I want to give someone upload access to my server, but I only want them to be able to access their own directory. So far I've created a ssh account and instructed them to use WinSCP, but they can still login with ssh and see all the files on my server. Any idea what alternatives I have? Should I configure the ssh to only allow scp and only in one directory, or should I install a ftp server instead? |
| 16:49.25 | jordanm | Richlv: like the lintian check says, always escape a literal \- and use \(hy if you really wanted a hyphen |
| 16:49.34 | Elemeno-work | vampi: did you give your user a home directory? |
| 16:49.54 | Richlv | jordanm, no, it's the opposite |
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| 16:50.05 | Richlv | " -" is the only thing it checks |
| 16:50.16 | Richlv | so in "--version" it would only balk about the first dash |
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| 16:50.25 | Richlv | and only if it's " --version", actually |
| 16:50.44 | Richlv | in "z--no--version" it would not complain at all |
| 16:50.56 | Richlv | and i can't find any description supporting such an approach |
| 16:51.07 | jordanm | Richlv: it's probably just an issue with the check |
| 16:51.08 | Richlv | and i prefer to fix things proprly, not just to shut up some check ;) |
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| 16:51.34 | jordanm | vampi-the-frog: see ChrootDirector in man sshd_config |
| 16:51.35 | Richlv | jordanm, but who could confirm and/or fix it ? |
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| 16:52.04 | vampi-the-frog | ty jordanm |
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| 16:52.39 | jordanm | Richlv: the lintian maintainers |
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| 16:53.34 | Richlv | jordanm, any of them in here ? :) |
| 16:53.51 | jordanm | Richlv: probably not |
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| 16:54.20 | jordanm | Richlv: some hang out in oftc, but I would recommend a bug report or email |
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| 16:57.59 | Richlv | jordanm, mm. what's the package for that ? just "lintian" ? |
| 16:58.10 | Richlv | is more used to bugzilla than formatting emails in a specific way ;) |
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| 16:58.31 | jordanm | Richlv: yes |
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| 17:10.14 | debiansnortdust | debian is running |
| 17:10.16 | debiansnortdust | sound is working |
| 17:10.18 | debiansnortdust | everything great ;D |
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| 17:11.40 | SixtyFold | debiansnortdust: there's always tomorrow, hehe |
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| 17:14.04 | debiansnortdust | is there a video driver i need to download |
| 17:14.14 | debiansnortdust | or it contains in the apt-get update |
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| 17:19.03 | mumpitze1 | debiansnortdust: what videocard do you have? |
| 17:19.24 | mumpitze1 | apt-get update only updates the package lists in repositories. it doesn't download any software |
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| 17:21.22 | Richlv | "Thank you for filing a new Bug report with Debian. This is an automatically generated reply to let you know your message has been received." |
| 17:21.25 | Richlv | good, that worked :) |
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| 17:22.58 | debiansnortdust | mumpitze1: it's a built in ati |
| 17:23.11 | debiansnortdust | so i should be looking for some ati repository stuff |
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| 17:23.24 | bezoka | hi |
| 17:23.48 | bezoka | How can I install sfml 2.x on Debian? |
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| 17:25.13 | EmleyMoor | VW recalling cars for, among other things, leaking fuel lines - that's been a frequent problem for them! |
| 17:25.25 | kamoricks | bezoka: apt-get install libsfml not working? |
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| 17:25.57 | debiansnortdust | is there a way to turn off the invisiblity/transparency glow in kde debian |
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| 17:29.28 | Gregor_ | anyone knows how to get pcsx2 running on debian?? |
| 17:29.33 | bezoka | kamoricks: but I want 2.x not 1.6 ;) |
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| 17:30.02 | jhutchins_wk | ,versions libsfml |
| 17:30.04 | judd | No package named 'libsfml' was found in i386. |
| 17:30.05 | debiansnortdust | any idea why i can't reboot via startup panel and have to reboot by su terminal? |
| 17:30.18 | kamoricks | ,versions libsfml-dev |
| 17:30.20 | judd | Package: libsfml-dev on i386 -- squeeze: 1.6+dfsg1-1+b1; jessie: 1.6+dfsg2-2; wheezy: 1.6+dfsg2-2; sid: 2.1+dfsg-5 |
| 17:30.37 | kamoricks | bezoka: So it looks like you want to install that particular package from "unstable". |
| 17:30.46 | bezoka | kamoricks: how?:P |
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| 17:31.37 | bezoka | is good way to upgrade debian to sid from jessie? |
| 17:31.38 | kamoricks | https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences#Installing_from_unstable has a few options. |
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| 17:32.05 | kamoricks | bezoka: Yes, if you want to upgrade the entire system, but sid requires a lot more maintenance work than testing. |
| 17:32.47 | jhutchins_wk | bezoka: sid is not intended as a working release, it is a staging area for packages being processed into testing. |
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| 17:39.39 | bezoka | kk;P |
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| 17:42.41 | magyar | hi, I've recompiled openssl with sslv2 support but when I list the ciphers I don't see any sslv2. What could be wrong? |
| 17:43.07 | bezoka | I am noob, really dont know how install it :D |
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| 17:43.23 | bezoka | apt-get install libsfml-dev/unstable dont work :D |
| 17:44.14 | kamoricks | bezoka: Did you add the repository and pinning information? |
| 17:45.34 | bezoka | I adding now ;P |
| 17:46.12 | bezoka | ok, thanks all ;) |
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| 17:51.23 | YokoBR | guys, i've screwed up my system |
| 17:51.33 | YokoBR | i've enabled "testing" on wheezy |
| 17:51.46 | grimeton | YokoBR: you're bad bad boy |
| 17:52.09 | YokoBR | what can i do now? i've a lot of unmet dependencies |
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| 17:52.37 | grimeton | YokoBR: did you remove the testing stuff afterwards? |
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| 17:52.45 | grimeton | (in sources.list) |
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| 17:53.01 | YokoBR | i've tried |
| 17:53.07 | YokoBR | but doesn't make any difference |
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| 17:53.26 | grimeton | yeah you have to remove any package that comes from testing before you remove the entries in sources.list |
| 17:53.35 | grimeton | or even better: downgrade the package |
| 17:53.55 | grimeton | it would have been even better to read BEFORE you add testing to sources.list how to handle packages from different releases in parallel |
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| 17:56.00 | YokoBR | insserv: script checkroot.sh: service mtab already provided! |
| 17:56.28 | YokoBR | update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header |
| 17:56.32 | babilen | YokoBR: short of a reinstall there are only ugly things to do (depending on how much you installed from testing) |
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| 17:56.52 | YokoBR | babilen, almost everything. |
| 17:57.07 | babilen | YokoBR: Well, in that case decide to run testing properly and work on that. |
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| 18:00.45 | MraMr | Hello all. Having issues with GPU I see a patch that might solve it. I understand I need to untar it and then ' ./configure $XORG_CONFIG && make ' then 'su -' and 'make install' . However there are only these config files in the patch: autogen.sh configure.ac .gitignore Makefile.am, besides /src. The patch is at http://goo.gl/h7PnWA . Is it correct if I './configure.ac $XORG_CONFIG && make'? |
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| 18:01.16 | grimeton | MraMr: run autogen |
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| 18:02.10 | MraMr | grimeton, as root, su - ? Because .. ./autogen: No such file or directory |
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| 18:02.48 | grimeton | MraMr: what files that start with autogen are available? |
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| 18:04.45 | MraMr | grimeton: srcdir=`dirname $0`; test -z "$srcdir" && srcdir=. ; ORIGDIR=`pwd` ; cd $srcdir ; autoreconf -v --install || exit 1 ; cd $ORIGDIR || exit $? ; $srcdir/configure --enable-maintainer-mode "$@" |
| 18:05.05 | YokoBR | where is this "checkroot.sh" script? |
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| 18:05.27 | MraMr | grimeton: that's the whole content.. besides #! /bin/sh |
| 18:06.24 | bezoka | how can I remove pulseaudio? |
| 18:06.59 | grimeton | MraMr: run it |
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| 18:08.09 | MraMr | YokoBR , it's not in /scr :o the only possible dir |
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| 18:09.32 | YokoBR | MraMr, it's not there. there's no /scr |
| 18:09.56 | C00re | src |
| 18:09.56 | YokoBR | insserv: script checkroot.sh: service mtab already provided!, what is this? |
| 18:09.56 | hplc | what are you trying to do? |
| 18:10.25 | YokoBR | i've tried an upgrade with testing repo |
| 18:10.40 | MraMr | /src |
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| 18:11.13 | YokoBR | MraMr, there's no such dir. |
| 18:11.19 | MraMr | oops, YokoBR is on another "dimension" sorry |
| 18:11.26 | MraMr | :) |
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| 18:14.31 | elstel | Anyone has a free minute? |
| 18:14.31 | elstel | Stand with the ARCTIC30 |
| 18:14.31 | elstel | www.greenpeace.org |
| 18:14.31 | elstel | anyone didn`t sign yet? |
| 18:14.31 | elstel | the juridical proceedings are up to start ... |
| 18:14.31 | elstel | so last chance to take action. |
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| 18:14.36 | YokoBR | oh, found the solution |
| 18:14.40 | MraMr | grimeton: "./autogen.sh: autoreconf: not found" It's not in /src either :( |
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| 18:15.21 | hplc | but isnt playing with unstable just something ppl do inside vmware? |
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| 18:15.41 | MraMr | oh, wait, autoreconf is a bin. let me see how to install it |
| 18:15.50 | grimeton | MraMr: sorry, been on the phone |
| 18:15.56 | grimeton | MraMr: yeah, there are several autoreconf packages |
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| 18:16.00 | MraMr | grimeton: :) it's ok |
| 18:16.50 | grimeton | MraMr: depending on the setup of the source the autogen.sh scripts generates the makefile |
| 18:17.04 | grimeton | you'll also need several compiler packages and header files |
| 18:17.13 | MraMr | dh-autoreconf, i guess that's the one |
| 18:17.24 | grimeton | MraMr: i'd suggest installing "kernel-package" which should pull in the basic compiler stuff |
| 18:17.36 | MraMr | okay, grimeton :) |
| 18:17.40 | hplc | "grimeton"? like in the name of the village? next to gödestad? |
| 18:17.47 | grimeton | hplc: yes |
| 18:18.13 | hplc | oh, then im familliar with that place |
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| 18:18.58 | grimeton | hplc: but related to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varberg_Radio_Station |
| 18:19.13 | arun | excuse me guys, where can I meet devs of debian?? |
| 18:19.32 | grimeton | MraMr: and look for "autoreconf" package |
| 18:19.48 | grimeton | MraMr: also you should install apt-file to search for files contained in all packages |
| 18:19.51 | arun | I wanted to ask some questions |
| 18:19.59 | grimeton | arun: don't ask to ask just ask |
| 18:20.05 | MraMr | grimeton: I'm doing it:) |
| 18:20.08 | arun | ok |
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| 18:20.23 | hplc | i saw those antennas every single day grewing up next to it |
| 18:20.34 | grimeton | hplc: one day i'll travel there :) |
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| 18:20.54 | arun | How can we add a new language in language option ; which is not existing in the locales |
| 18:21.15 | nonconvergent | Hey gang. |
| 18:21.29 | grimeton | arun: that's a HUGE question. you'd have to translate everything to the missing language (at least some stuff from base) |
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| 18:22.18 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: sorry, was away.... well, after I deactivated quota it worked... |
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| 18:22.51 | MraMr | grimeton: I'm having problems downloading from the mirror, as soon as I get this resolved I'l get back here |
| 18:22.56 | arun | grimeton: yes, we have a team for translation, So. We need to configure the language base system ... |
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| 18:23.04 | ChrisH | hyper_ch: I was busy on different high prio things today, but know I am off for today... Till tomorrow. |
| 18:23.04 | Zap-W | hi |
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| 18:23.22 | Zap-W | how to I reach searches with aptitude based on package category? |
| 18:23.29 | Zap-W | like editors, or graphics |
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| 18:24.20 | hyper_ch | ChrisH: no worries, as said, after deactivating quota it works.... I just have to figure out why :) |
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| 18:24.28 | nonconvergent | I need to run Tomcat and a LAMP style stack for a class, but I haven't been given much in the way of instruction. I already have a Apache, mysql, PHP running on my Debian box. I see that Tomcat can be managed as a user or as a service based on which package I get, but I don't know much else about it. |
| 18:24.36 | arun | grimeton: how can we add our language in the list and make it work ?? |
| 18:24.41 | grimeton | arun: i'd suggest you check on the contribute page of debian.org for the right mailing list and then send an e-mail there - the right people should follow up then and help you |
| 18:25.05 | nonconvergent | Zap-W: aptitude without any other options or parameters will give you an ncurses menu that'll let you browse. |
| 18:25.22 | arun | grimeton: Thank you for ur suggestion, but can't we meet them here in the IRC ? |
| 18:25.36 | grimeton | arun: afaik not |
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| 18:26.20 | grimeton | arun: try #debian-dev |
| 18:26.23 | grimeton | brb |
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| 18:26.34 | arun | grimeton: lol |
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| 18:29.39 | Zap-W | what is the ? in aptitude search '?narrow(?installed, !?archive(stable))' |
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| 18:32.52 | neozonz | I'm running into some issues with deborphan |
| 18:32.53 | neozonz | Package: libgtk2.0-0 |
| 18:32.54 | neozonz | Status: deinstall ok triggers-pending |
| 18:32.58 | neozonz | how can i resolve this? |
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| 18:37.47 | grimeton | re |
| 18:37.58 | grimeton | arun: success? |
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| 18:38.43 | arun | grimeton: no, I am in confuse whom to send the msg xDE |
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| 18:39.23 | MraMr | grimeton: the configuration ends with "./configure: line 17986: syntax error near unexpected token `RANDR,'" and "./configure: line 17986: `XORG_DRIVER_CHECK_EXT(RANDR, randrproto)'" but I believe it's another matter. I'll dig into it on google. Thank you so much for your help :) |
| 18:40.00 | grimeton | MraMr: you're probably missing the header files of the x-server - is this a patch or an additional module? |
| 18:40.15 | MraMr | grimeton: it's a patch |
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| 18:40.25 | grimeton | MraMr: that would require you to rebuild the whole package |
| 18:40.32 | MraMr | ouch |
| 18:40.56 | grimeton | MraMr: you need dpkg-dev and the deb-src entries in sources.list to get the source packages |
| 18:41.06 | grimeton | then you need to add the patch (if not already present) to the package, and rebuild it |
| 18:41.16 | grimeton | it's not that easy and beyond the scope of this channel |
| 18:41.33 | MraMr | grimeton: I got the info and wgOt it at this http://goo.gl/h7PnWA |
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| 18:41.54 | mumpitze1 | MraMr: is this what's in your logfile or on stderr? |
| 18:42.11 | grimeton | MraMr: i wonder if this patch isn't already parpt of the xorg packages |
| 18:42.15 | grimeton | MraMr: because it's rather old |
| 18:42.25 | MraMr | mumpitze1: while configuring/patchuing the "patch" |
| 18:42.33 | MraMr | patching :) |
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| 18:46.31 | arun | grimeton: whom do u think I should contact ... |
| 18:46.35 | arun | grep0r: hello bro |
| 18:47.06 | grep0r | hi arun :) |
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| 18:47.36 | grimeton | arun: sign up to this list: http://lists.debian.org/i18n.html |
| 18:47.40 | arun | grep0r: how are u ? |
| 18:47.47 | grimeton | arun: and then send them an email with what you're planing todo |
| 18:47.53 | grimeton | arun: then wait |
| 18:48.07 | grep0r | good arun thx |
| 18:48.22 | babilen | arun: You might want to ask in #debian-i18n on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) for instructions |
| 18:48.23 | arun | grimeton: how many days will it take to get replied? |
| 18:48.31 | grimeton | arun: don't know |
| 18:49.06 | babilen | arun: But yeah, the mailing list is definitely a good place to start. |
| 18:49.15 | arun | babilen: ok |
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| 19:04.28 | neozonz | 2013-11-14T19:02:31+0000 vzctl : CT 108 : Unable to start init, probably incorrect template |
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| 19:19.19 | phy1729 | What is the reccomended way to do automatic upgrades? |
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| 19:22.03 | Adian | I have a new debian stable VM which is up to date. In attempting to use dm-crypt, I'm experiencing serious I/O problems that sometimes cause system hangs while doing basic tasks. here's what I did: |
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| 19:22.26 | Adian | Created a base file using dd to write it with data from /dev/urandom. file is aobut 10GB |
| 19:22.47 | Adian | used cryptsetup to add a luks header to it |
| 19:22.55 | Adian | mapped the device |
| 19:23.04 | Adian | run mkfs.ext3 on the mapped device |
| 19:23.25 | Adian | halfway through writing the inodes, it hangs. usually if I wait ~2-3 minutes, it finally completes |
| 19:23.36 | Adian | sometimes the system never comes back. ALL I/O is affected, including network |
| 19:23.51 | Adian | for instance, in my latest try, my SSH session timed out |
| 19:24.09 | Adian | This seems similar to this report: http://www.saout.de/pipermail/dm-crypt/2012-July/002544.html |
| 19:24.18 | Adian | but I can't find any follow-ups on it |
| 19:24.48 | Adian | doing mkfs.ext3 directly on the file (without it being mapped) works great. |
| 19:25.45 | Adian | can anyone help? |
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| 19:29.50 | Lorcatar | Hola. |
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| 19:30.23 | tty-1 | So I got that mount: permission denied error. I want to find out what exactly caused this error (what device). For this I got recommended to use the syslog log. But on that installation (some lxc / chroot minimal debian) there is no syslog log file at all. |
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| 19:30.34 | tty-1 | Do I have to enable it / install something before? |
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| 19:32.27 | wjtaylor | Is it possible to reference a HDD by which SATA controller it's on? |
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| 19:32.52 | grimeton | wjtaylor: by it's uuid and/or serial number |
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| 19:33.23 | wjtaylor | grimeton: by the HDD's sn/uuid or the conrtrollers? |
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| 19:33.50 | grimeton | wjtaylor: you can pick the hdd and then go backwards with the help of /sys and /proc |
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| 19:34.58 | stim | does anybody know what quotatool: Error while detecting kernel quota version: No such file or directory means? |
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| 19:35.13 | stim | using:3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 19:35.15 | wjtaylor | grimeton: I have a sata hot swap tray and want to auto-mount the drive when inserted. The /dev reference is not guaranteed to be constant, the drives UUID/sn would not be constant. How can I automount drives in that tray (on that controller)? |
| 19:35.22 | grimeton | stim: looks like a missing module or an unsupported filesystem |
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| 19:35.36 | grimeton | wjtaylor: check the drives uuid with blkid |
| 19:35.50 | stim | grimeton i'm using ext3 and put it in fstab at the / line |
| 19:35.54 | grimeton | wjtaylor: and then mount them with the help of uuid=DRIV-EUUI-D123 instead of /dev/sda |
| 19:36.09 | grimeton | stim: i can't even say oomh if ext3 supports quota |
| 19:36.51 | stim | grimeton: you want to say you donÄt know if ext3 supports quota? |
| 19:36.56 | wjtaylor | grimeton: would I have to do that with every drive? The idea is I'll have new drives all the time... |
| 19:36.59 | grimeton | stim: yes |
| 19:37.17 | grimeton | wjtaylor: yeah but if you have new drives then you get different s/n and differend blkids, don't you? |
| 19:38.29 | wjtaylor | grimeton: yeah, that's what I mean. I thought there would be a way (script?) to find what device is on a controller and then mount it... I hear what your saying about UUID, I'm not sure if it is what I need here. |
| 19:38.36 | wjtaylor | Unless I'm not understanding you. |
| 19:39.00 | grimeton | wjtaylor: the UUID and the s/n are both things that are part of the drive that is inserted |
| 19:39.10 | wjtaylor | right |
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| 19:39.17 | grimeton | wjtaylor: so if you have changing drives it's not the best idea to go for that information |
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| 19:39.45 | grimeton | i wonder if you could go with the help of /sys/devices/pciXYZ/pci-device/ata controller |
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| 19:41.02 | grimeton | that could work |
| 19:41.09 | Mrcodered | Hello everyone is someone willing to help me ? |
| 19:41.33 | grimeton | after figuring out which pci device the controller is you can follow down the ata*/host*/target*/*/model path to figure it out |
| 19:41.40 | mumpitze1 | Mrcodered: just state your problem |
| 19:42.00 | wjtaylor | grimeton: yeah... that's the idea. hmm /sys I'll have to look that up, but that's a good place to start. |
| 19:42.02 | wjtaylor | Thanks. |
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| 19:44.12 | Mrcodered | I would like to install debian to my existing mbr Im running grub2 from backtrack and windows 7 is also included in that grub. How can I add debian to the existing grub2? Will the Debian Installation take care of BOTH these operating systems automatically? |
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| 19:45.50 | mumpitze1 | Mrcodered: normally yes. windows for certain, backtrack most probably too |
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| 19:46.23 | Mrcodered | Cool so should i just run the installation and try? Is that your suggestion sir? |
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| 19:47.15 | lulzplzkthx | Is there anyway to downgrade all testing release packages to stable (wheezy)? |
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| 19:47.38 | lulzplzkthx | I found out, after doing a bunch of apt-pinning, and installing a later version of libc6, that there is a much easier way to install Steam without modifying system-wide libraries. |
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| 19:47.56 | lulzplzkthx | So I want to revert all the dependencies that were upgraded to testing, and then do that method instead. |
| 19:48.10 | mumpitze1 | lulzplzkthx: you can (probably) manually downgrade with lots of dpkg -i |
| 19:48.13 | lulzplzkthx | If there's a way ofr me to get a list of testing packages installed on my system that would be fine too. |
| 19:48.17 | mumpitze1 | lulzplzkthx: what different method is this? |
| 19:48.27 | mumpitze1 | lulzplzkthx: /var/log/dpkg.log* |
| 19:48.31 | lulzplzkthx | mumpitze1: Someone has packaged a .deb to install into a local user directory thel ibraries and reference on runtime. |
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| 19:49.10 | mumpitze1 | ah, LD_LIBRARYPATH |
| 19:49.17 | lulzplzkthx | Yeah. |
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| 19:49.27 | lulzplzkthx | Hmm, /var/log/dpkg.log | grep testing doesn't seem to return anything, and I'm not seeing any other way to determine which are testing release in there. |
| 19:49.44 | lulzplzkthx | I thought maybe setting stable to 1001 Pin-Priority and removing the testing repository might force downgrade? |
| 19:49.47 | lulzplzkthx | But that didn't seem tow ork. |
| 19:49.51 | lulzplzkthx | seem to work* |
| 19:50.03 | lulzplzkthx | Perhaps if I do that and then manually tell it all the packages that were testing it would downgrade them. |
| 19:50.09 | lulzplzkthx | But I still need a way to get a list of the testing packages. |
| 19:50.19 | lulzplzkthx | Or... in that case a list of ALL packages could work too. |
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| 19:51.00 | lulzplzkthx | apt_preferences man page seems to suggest a priority over 1000 will indicate that the package should be installed even if it's a downgrade. |
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| 19:51.21 | Mariox | :L |
| 19:51.24 | mumpitze1 | no you cannot use apt-get to downgrade in any ways. manually with dpkg only. and this won't always work either |
| 19:51.33 | mumpitze1 | downgrade is totally unsupported and you are lucky if it works |
| 19:51.37 | arthurfiggis | hello :) i've been looking around online to try and figure out how i can turn off usb autosuspend for debian (wheezy), i've seen suggestions of installing laptop-mode-tools, but not what to do with it afterwards? |
| 19:51.42 | mumpitze1 | lulzplzkthx: I told you how to get them |
| 19:51.50 | lulzplzkthx | mumpitze1: That does not indicate which are testing. |
| 19:52.32 | lulzplzkthx | > How APT Interprets Priorities |
| 19:52.35 | lulzplzkthx | > P >= 1000 |
| 19:52.44 | lulzplzkthx | > causes a version to be installed even if this constitutes a downgrade of the package |
| 19:53.01 | phy1729 | There's a lot of comments on the internet against auto-upgrades; however, the comments seem quite old. Is it still a bad idea to auto upgrade? |
| 19:53.04 | lulzplzkthx | https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences#Pinning |
| 19:53.08 | lulzplzkthx | There is a note about it here as well. |
| 19:53.22 | lulzplzkthx | > Note that a priority above 1000 will allow even downgrades no matter the version of the prioritary package. This means that you can use priority 1001 for a stable source if you want to downgrade to the stable versions of the packages you have installed (let's say from testing) on the system. this is not recommended unless the number of changes are minimal |
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| 19:54.23 | lulzplzkthx | However, that does not seem to be true for the command "apt-get upgrade", so I'm thinking maybe if I set priority to 1000, then run "apt-get install" on the specific packages, they will be downgraded. Maybe? |
| 19:54.29 | lulzplzkthx | Unless you can explain to me why that is inaccurate mumpitze1 ? |
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| 19:55.37 | lulzplzkthx | phy1729: I think that's a matter of preference really. You run the risk of packages breaking, but it's probably not likely to happen. |
| 19:55.40 | lulzplzkthx | http://serverfault.com/questions/22324/should-i-have-to-enable-automatic-update-on-debian-lenny-stable |
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| 19:58.29 | mumpitze1 | phy1729: it always is a bad idea. the reasons haven't changed |
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| 19:59.06 | DammitJim | I would like to restart a service on another debian server |
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| 19:59.15 | DammitJim | how can I do this using ssh? |
| 19:59.49 | lulzplzkthx | mumpitze1: So it seems there really is no way to to get a list of which packages are from which release, is there? |
| 19:59.50 | DammitJim | I read somewhere that one can do ssh user@server.com command |
| 19:59.55 | lulzplzkthx | dpkg simply maintains a list based on version number. |
| 19:59.56 | dpkg | i don't know, lulzplzkthx |
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| 20:00.03 | lulzplzkthx | The releases are simply a method of managing repositories for apt? |
| 20:00.11 | DammitJim | but how can I run the command as root if I only have a regular user? |
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| 20:00.28 | lulzplzkthx | Sorry, I'm not too familiar with Debian systems. Haven't run a Debian-based distro in years. |
| 20:00.36 | phy1729 | mumpitze1: I feel like it wouldn't change much since I mostly just upgrade without testing already; we aren't big enough to do that |
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| 20:01.30 | phy1729 | DammitJim: ssh user@server sudo service foo restart |
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| 20:01.37 | lulzplzkthx | To be honest, I may end up just backing up my home directory, and starting fresh. |
| 20:01.40 | DammitJim | oh, I do need sudo, don't I? |
| 20:01.40 | mumpitze1 | DammitJim: run which command as root? |
| 20:01.41 | lulzplzkthx | I only installed two days ago and don't have much on here. |
| 20:01.58 | DammitJim | mumpitze1, in this case /etc/init.d/myservice restart |
| 20:02.32 | DammitJim | the problem I have is that someone needs to be able to restart a service as they are developing on that server |
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| 20:02.47 | DammitJim | however, they don't have the root password nor is this server set up with sudo |
| 20:03.26 | DammitJim | I actually think that ssh user@server.com command will run a command that I have on the client machine and not on the server, so that's wrong |
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| 20:04.08 | bugtraq | gelap |
| 20:04.20 | phy1729 | DammitJim: it runs on the remote it's at the top os the ssh man page |
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| 20:05.00 | DammitJim | so, to do a service restart, I would have to use sudo, huh? |
| 20:05.09 | mumpitze1 | DammitJim: ssh user@server.com just logs in as user at server.com, nothing more and nothing about where anything is located |
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| 20:05.30 | DammitJim | mumpitze1, I was talking about: ssh user@server.com command |
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| 20:06.29 | xubuntu601 | ubuntu repos today received a security update for flashplugin. Debian has not. Why is debian behind reguarding security? |
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| 20:06.39 | mumpitze1 | command is executed on the remote host from the remote host |
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| 20:07.06 | DammitJim | executed on the remote host from the local host |
| 20:07.08 | mumpitze1 | xubuntu601: debian has no flashplugin at all. and the factoid clearly states you need to update said non-free plugin yourself |
| 20:07.24 | DammitJim | bottom line is, what would I need to do to restart a service on another server? |
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| 20:07.39 | DammitJim | w/o a root password and maybe on a one-liner |
| 20:07.41 | mumpitze1 | !tell xubuntu601 about adobe flash |
| 20:07.59 | mumpitze1 | something that does it suid root, or sudo |
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| 20:09.38 | xubuntu601 | thanks mumpitze1! But how would I know if there is an update? |
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| 20:11.08 | galex-713 | Hello |
| 20:11.22 | galex-713 | Why can’t I find banshee-extension-streamrecord on Sid? |
| 20:11.31 | galex-713 | I can find it on Wheezy and Jessie |
| 20:11.34 | galex-713 | But not on Sid |
| 20:11.59 | galex-713 | And I can’t install it from the .deb package since the dist version is different |
| 20:12.18 | galex-713 | *the dist version of the dep banshee-extensions-common |
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| 20:12.42 | galex-713 | And even changing it (from “=” to “>=”) it make banshee freeze |
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| 20:14.18 | xubuntu601 | debian oldstable 64bit is not stable at all |
| 20:14.37 | xubuntu601 | at least the multimedia was not watchable |
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| 20:14.49 | jhutchins_wk | galex-713: Sid is't intended as a complete, working release. It's a staging point for packages headed into testing. Not everything is available. |
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| 20:15.20 | jhutchins_wk | xubuntu601: Did you run the updater? |
| 20:15.34 | MouseTheLuckyDog | Is there a way to programatically read the control fields in a deb package? |
| 20:15.39 | galex-713 | Will it be available in the future? |
| 20:15.50 | grimeton | MouseTheLuckyDog: i bet dpkg does that |
| 20:16.02 | jhutchins_wk | xubuntu601: It's stable in that the packages do not change significantly and it doesn't arbitrarily install updates that break things. |
| 20:16.16 | MouseTheLuckyDog | grimeton: Programatically. |
| 20:16.24 | xubuntu601 | jhutchins_wk: I dont think so, I installed it using the online installer where it downloaded and installed the system by itself |
| 20:16.30 | jhutchins_wk | galex-713: If the maintainer uploads it and it's not blocked. |
| 20:16.35 | grimeton | MouseTheLuckyDog: how do you think dpkg does that internally? |
| 20:16.50 | jhutchins_wk | xubuntu601: So run that again in update mode and you should have Adobe's latest. |
| 20:17.17 | galex-713 | jhutchins_wk, so it could never be available on Sid? |
| 20:17.49 | jhutchins_wk | xubuntu601: If not, drop a line to the maintainer and let him know a new version's out. I've had him respond the same day (remember to be nice and thank him, he does it on his own dime). |
| 20:18.01 | jhutchins_wk | galex-713: Correct. |
| 20:18.19 | jhutchins_wk | galex-713: That's unusual, but it happens. |
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| 20:18.47 | jhutchins_wk | galex-713: You might find the maintainer and ask if there's anything you can do to help. |
| 20:18.53 | galex-713 | Oh… |
| 20:18.53 | galex-713 | should maybe reinstall Debian soon |
| 20:19.01 | galex-713 | What are you using, you, personally? |
| 20:19.01 | galex-713 | Oh, too |
| 20:19.07 | galex-713 | Why not… |
| 20:19.16 | galex-713 | The thing is I just wanted to test it |
| 20:19.18 | jhutchins_wk | I think this one's on squeeze. |
| 20:19.22 | xubuntu601 | ok I used the command on flashplayer of debian wiki and I am downloading the new version :) |
| 20:19.24 | galex-713 | To know if it does want I want to do |
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| 20:20.44 | buu | Does apt/dpkg keep any kind of log of operations its performed? |
| 20:20.53 | tty-1 | So does Debian Wheezy base on upstart or is it still experimental / optional package? |
| 20:21.57 | jhutchins_wk | tty-1: systemd I think. Hard to sort out current vs. obsolete discussion on it. |
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| 20:23.06 | jhutchins_wk | Ok, going dark for a bit, time for a RAM upgrade. |
| 20:23.28 | xayon | Hi there. Has anyone seen something like this http://imageshack.com/a/img811/2930/lju3.png before? I'm a bit lost. Changed my graphic card (but for another nvidia, so same driver, possible cause). This does not only happen on a terminal, but it always happens upon fonts, thought on some kind of font corruption but happens on multiple fonts. |
| 20:23.46 | galex-713 | jhutchins_wk, Debian is using systemd?! |
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| 20:31.56 | ShockValue | hi all.. kind of new to linux.. setting up a debian server with a samba share |
| 20:32.06 | ShockValue | can write and read files no problem, but cant delete them |
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| 20:32.38 | ShockValue | says i have to be root... but I'd like to be able to delete as anyone... security is of no concern in this instance |
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| 20:34.45 | _|Nix|_ | Hi! I need a quick reminder: Where does debian keep the file that lists all the repositories from which it will grab packages? |
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| 20:35.48 | zykotick9 | _|Nix|_: /etc/apt/sources.list and files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
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| 20:36.19 | _|Nix|_ | zykotick9: Thanks! |
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| 20:52.23 | red-lichtie | Hi! Quick question, I've found the source package I want, and I want to build it on a BeagleBone (Wheezy) because I can't find a binary backport for it. I've got all the prereqs but now I need a starter as how to go from "http://sources.debian.net/src/gcc-4.8/4.8.2-4" to 'make'. Any pointer welcome. |
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| 20:53.40 | bezoka | how can I fix it? |
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| 21:20.59 | C00re | check logs, reinstall drivers if required, other stuff i'm not sure about |
| 21:23.17 | bezoka | I have drivers |
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| 21:31.28 | alusion | how do I check to see if my amd drivers are installed |
| 21:31.32 | alusion | I have a sapphire 6850 |
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| 21:37.50 | musca | hi alusion |
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| 21:39.34 | jordanm | alusion: lsmod | grep -E '(fglrx|radeon)' |
| 21:39.37 | musca | alusion: there are two drivers: the free xserver-xorg-video-radeon (aka radeon) or the non-free fglrx. you can read the /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 21:43.00 | pseudony1ous | I'm trying to build a package, but it keeps failing with configure.in not found - I'm building from the dir where I have a 'debian' folder with all the package-related files in, next to the debian dir I have a valatoys-0.12.1-3 folder (and yes, I'm trying to build valatoys-0.12.1-3) |
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| 21:54.59 | jhutchins_wk | I presume valatoys is not from Debian? |
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| 22:04.22 | tremon | it doesn't appear to be: https://code.google.com/p/vtg/ |
| 22:05.40 | jhutchins_wk | pseudony1ous: ? |
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| 22:07.31 | rimdeker | Hello guys. Why does vsftpd act completely differently on my debian server compared to my ubuntu machine? I have the same configuration file for both and also apparently the same version of the software. I basically want to be able to log-in to the specified folder via ftp without having to enter a username and password |
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| 22:08.27 | rimdeker | It does work on Ubuntu by default (conveniently even with Firefox) but on my debian machine I have to enter my credentials and then land in my home folder |
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| 22:08.58 | jhutchins_wk | rimdeker: Yet another example of the fact that Ubuntu is not Debian. Probably compiled with different defaults/options. |
| 22:09.25 | jhutchins_wk | !vsftpd |
| 22:09.26 | dpkg | Very Secure FTP Daemon (vsftpd) is a GPL licensed FTP and FTPS server for Unix-like systems. Frequently Asked Questions: http://viki.brainsware.org/?en/FAQ . Wiki: http://vsftpd.brainsware.org/ . http://vsftpd.beasts.org/ #vsftpd on irc.freenode.net. See also <ftpd>. |
| 22:09.30 | rimdeker | jhutchins_wk: Would those make such a big difference even with the same configuration file? |
| 22:09.54 | the|Navi | Hey, I'm trying to figure out debian mirroring. Apparently, I can just slurp the whole mirror over rsync, but it keeps asking for login information, and no page seems to suggest what the generic username/password are. |
| 22:10.11 | jhutchins_wk | rimdeker: Sounds like it. Whether it drops you in a specific folder or in your home is pretty high-level. |
| 22:10.26 | jhutchins_wk | rimdeker: Do you know what kind of auth you're using? |
| 22:10.34 | jhutchins_wk | hasn't run an FTP server since the 90's. |
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| 22:11.39 | rimdeker | jhutchins_wk: Not really. I don't use FTP much, either. I just got a publicly accessible one for a few files. Wanted to use a spare debian machien for the same |
| 22:11.48 | red-lichtie | rimdeker: Have you configured ssh on you ubuntu machine and not on the debian server ? |
| 22:11.48 | jhutchins_wk | !mirror |
| 22:11.49 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <http.debian.net>, <geo sources.list> and <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
| 22:12.00 | tremon | the|Navi: what's "debian mirroring"? Do you want to setup a debian archive mirror? |
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| 22:12.10 | jordanm | most of time you want apt-cacher-ng rather than an entire mirror |
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| 22:12.43 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: Not really. Oh, except that on the debian machine I am not using the standard 22 port for ssh |
| 22:12.47 | red-lichtie | rimdeker: is your "~/.ssh/authorized_keys" set up right? |
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| 22:12.58 | the|Navi | tremon: Yeah. I'm trying to work out how to essentially /be/ a mirror. Sorry for the missing words, slightly tired. |
| 22:13.22 | tremon | have you read http://www.debian.org/mirror/ftpmirror ? |
| 22:13.25 | red-lichtie | Sounds like it isn't vsftpd, but your auth setup |
| 22:13.29 | the|Navi | tremon: That said, I don't want to be a public mirror, I'm doing a research project and literally need a consistent snapshot of packages from a mirror, and the easiest way is to clone one, I'm supposing. |
| 22:13.39 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: Why would that matter? I can access the ftp on the ubuntu machien from anywhere without having to set up my authorized_keys file |
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| 22:14.15 | the|Navi | tremon: I have. I'm looking at the part where it tells me the minimal things I need to do, trying to perform the rsync commands. All of them ask for username/password combinations when queried on nearby push mirrors. |
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| 22:14.55 | red-lichtie | Of course. Have you stored your password for the ftp server in the ftp client config somewhere ? |
| 22:15.20 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: It's not supposed to have a password. |
| 22:15.22 | red-lichtie | was reading ftp and thinking shell |
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| 22:16.16 | red-lichtie | rimdeker: are you using sftp ? |
| 22:16.27 | red-lichtie | Is it amyby asking for a cert? |
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| 22:16.53 | red-lichtie | Something useful in /var/log/auth.log ? |
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| 22:17.09 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: That's the thing. The default setup in Ubuntu makes your /srv/ftp/ folder publicly accessible (i.e. via Firefox) and that's what I am going for on the Debian machine. I thought the configuration files were different, when I noticed that it doesn't work. SO I just copied over the conf file from my Ubuntu machine, restarted vsftpd but still no luck |
| 22:17.14 | tremon | the|Navi: I have never needed it myself, but the only reason I can think of is that you're trying to clone from a mirror that doesn't allow it. Have you looked at the ftpsync script to see what's in it? |
| 22:17.21 | rimdeker | No password or anything |
| 22:17.29 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: Nope. Just ftp |
| 22:17.59 | the|Navi | tremon: I did. I know I can't actually run the script on the VM I've been given for the project, but I was scraping around to try to find the information, and it doesn't look like that provides a username/password pair either. |
| 22:18.00 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: It's asking for a user name and password and when I enter a correct one, I land in my home folder |
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| 22:18.39 | red-lichtie | anonymous_enable=YES |
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| 22:18.46 | red-lichtie | anon_root=/var/ftp |
| 22:19.20 | red-lichtie | rimdeker: 5 year old config here: http://www.g-loaded.eu/2008/12/02/set-up-an-anonymous-ftp-server-with-vsftpd-in-less-than-a-minute/ |
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| 22:19.36 | red-lichtie | Not sure if the anon part is the same |
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| 22:21.33 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: Thanks. I don't have the "anon_root" thingie, though neither do I have it on my Ubuntu machine. But let's try |
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| 22:24.47 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: Well, nope. This is really odd and slightly annoying heh |
| 22:24.50 | jhutchins_wk | I wonder what the half-life of an anonymous FTP server on the internet is these days? |
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| 22:25.29 | jhutchins_wk | red-lichtie: It's not like much has changed. |
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| 22:26.08 | red-lichtie | I wouldn't have thought that so much would have changed either |
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| 22:28.35 | red-lichtie | rimdeker: allow_anon_ssl=NO ? |
| 22:28.50 | red-lichtie | Something different in /etc/default ? |
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| 22:29.14 | red-lichtie | Is it standalone or xinetd ? |
| 22:29.27 | rimdeker | It's standalone |
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| 22:30.54 | red-lichtie | Is it a pam thing ? |
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| 22:31.21 | debianisnice | can debian have smoother font? |
| 22:31.30 | debianisnice | i feel like it can be smoother like ive seen on fedora |
| 22:31.38 | debianisnice | im missing a plugin maybe? |
| 22:31.40 | red-lichtie | rimdeker: Are you 100% that the client is configured the same for both servers ? |
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| 22:32.00 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: Not really. It's a really simple configuration. On Ubuntu I literally just installed it, then started it. I didn't expect it to be the same on Debian - though I kinda DID expect it to be the same after copying the conf file over hah |
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| 22:32.10 | jordanm | !tell debianisnice about fonts |
| 22:32.16 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: One second |
| 22:32.34 | red-lichtie | I'm wondering if it is a client issue here |
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| 22:33.03 | debianisnice | i mean the font is okay but i want that smoothness |
| 22:34.00 | dagger | hi guys I have debian with DirectAdmin installed, where directadmin can keep his email forwarders entries?? |
| 22:34.04 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: http://puu.sh/5iulH.png , left Debian. Only the last line is differnet, because I addes it two minutes ago |
| 22:34.10 | mtn | debianisnice: just need to fiddle with your settings for the fonts |
| 22:34.18 | debianisnice | oh |
| 22:34.59 | mtn | debianisnice: things like anti-aliasing, for instance |
| 22:35.54 | red-lichtie | rimdeker: Did you have a look here ? - https://security.appspot.com/vsftpd/FAQ.txt |
| 22:37.14 | red-lichtie | rimdeker: is one a local user and the other via the network? |
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| 22:37.26 | red-lichtie | i.e. the ubunut is local |
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| 22:39.44 | DoverMo | iibiinte |
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| 22:40.41 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: They appear to be local users both |
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| 22:41.27 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: http://puu.sh/5iuM9.png |
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| 22:42.29 | red-lichtie | rimdeker: Sorry, I wasn't precise enough |
| 22:42.44 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: Maybe what jhutchins_wk said is correct. Programs might be compiled differently but this would be a rather stark difference |
| 22:42.58 | the|Navi | tremon: It's working now. |
| 22:43.01 | the|Navi | tremon: Thanks anyway. |
| 22:43.02 | red-lichtie | Are you accessing the ftp locally on one of the machines and remote to the other? |
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| 22:43.13 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: Ah. They're both remote |
| 22:43.20 | red-lichtie | Hmm |
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| 22:44.15 | red-lichtie | rimdeker: |
| 22:44.21 | tremon | the|Navi: what did you change? |
| 22:44.22 | red-lichtie | I think I see the diff |
| 22:44.42 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: Oh? |
| 22:44.51 | red-lichtie | Try 'chmod 755 /srv/ftp' |
| 22:45.08 | red-lichtie | I think that ftp can't have write access with anon |
| 22:45.13 | red-lichtie | or something like that |
| 22:45.15 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: On the right one? |
| 22:45.19 | rimdeker | Ah okay |
| 22:45.24 | red-lichtie | on the left one |
| 22:45.57 | rimdeker | Oh right, that's what I meant...seriously might have dyslexia or something, not the first time this happened... |
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| 22:46.21 | rimdeker | red-lichtie: You were correct :) |
| 22:46.26 | red-lichtie | :D |
| 22:46.30 | rimdeker | Now it works, thanks a bunch |
| 22:46.36 | rimdeker | Quite a nuisance, though hah |
| 22:46.44 | red-lichtie | It is always the little things :) |
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| 22:47.02 | rimdeker | True that. Really appreciating your help, thanks a lot :) |
| 22:47.13 | red-lichtie | Nice security touch, but it should be in a log somewhere |
| 22:47.23 | red-lichtie | You're welcome |
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| 22:48.06 | rimdeker | Yeah, certainly, though I can imagine someone out there being crazy confused because an anonymous ftp with write access is just what they want hah |
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| 22:51.25 | jhutchins_wk | Well, if you ever want to see what a system looks like when it's rooted, just set up anonymous ftp with write. |
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| 22:53.07 | jhutchins_wk | You don't even have to publish it, they'll find you. |
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| 22:55.58 | blocky | anybody familiar with this issue? the bug was closed over a year ago but I am having a very similar issue http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=706499 |
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| 22:56.28 | jhutchins_wk | blocky: Give us a quick summary. |
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| 22:58.57 | blocky | jhutchins_wk: realtek ethernet card comes up ipv6 only. in my case, even dhclient can't get an ipv4 address, but i set everything up statically it works fine |
| 22:59.05 | Janhouse | Hi! I now get device wwan0 created when attaching my 3g modem. So wvdial can't connect because it uses pppd. Any ideas? |
| 22:59.09 | blocky | module r8169 |
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| 23:00.41 | jhutchins_wk | blocky: Sounds like the dhcp server isn't handing out ipv4. |
| 23:01.09 | jhutchins_wk | blocky: You could diagnose it with tcpdump and watch the queries and response, or probalby just reset the router. |
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| 23:04.00 | debianisnice | i accidentally did something that removed the taskbar windows from showing |
| 23:04.05 | debianisnice | how do i add back |
| 23:04.55 | nonconvergent | debianisnice: Gnome? |
| 23:05.04 | debianisnice | kde |
| 23:05.06 | debianisnice | wheezy 20 |
| 23:05.13 | nonconvergent | Meh, I dunno then. |
| 23:06.14 | themill | debianisnice: click on the activity "cashew" in the corner and then you can readd any plasmoids you want |
| 23:06.17 | blocky | jhutchins_wk: what makes you think it's the dhcp server and not the client? |
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| 23:07.09 | debianisnice | got it |
| 23:07.09 | debianisnice | thanks |
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| 23:11.23 | Lorcatar | hi ;) |
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| 23:23.22 | bitko | :~/www$ php test.php |
| 23:23.22 | bitko | PHP Fatal error: Unknown: Failed opening required 'test.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0 |
| 23:23.25 | bitko | Fatal error: Unknown: Failed opening required 'test.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0 |
| 23:23.44 | bitko | and I've no idea why php is not seeing this file and doesn't want to run it |
| 23:23.55 | bitko | in test.php I only have phpinfo(); |
| 23:24.21 | bitko | test file is in that directory where I'm running the command |
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| 23:25.01 | bitko | PHP 5.5.5-1 (cli) (built: Oct 19 2013 22:09:48) |
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| 23:26.32 | bzed | bitko: you are missing -f |
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| 23:27.33 | bzed | bitko: actually it should work without -f. |
| 23:27.34 | bzed | weird |
| 23:27.38 | bzed | then I have no idea :) |
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| 23:28.10 | bitko | So do I :P |
| 23:28.29 | bitko | that's why I'm asking for help ;) |
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| 23:29.28 | red-lichtie | bitko: Do you have <?php |
| 23:29.29 | red-lichtie | ... |
| 23:29.29 | red-lichtie | ?> |
| 23:29.29 | bzed | bitko: run strace -vfF php test.php and put the output into a pastebin :) |
| 23:29.48 | bzed | red-lichtie: that doesn't make a difference, if not it should just prunt the content of the file |
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| 23:30.02 | bitko | red-lichtie: it's not <?php realted for sure :) |
| 23:30.03 | red-lichtie | True |
| 23:30.06 | bitko | bzed ok checking ;] |
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| 23:30.51 | bitko | hmm |
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| 23:33.17 | bitko | bzed: I've just quickly made ~/www/test/ folder and in this folder things are working lol in ~/www it's not working... so I know sth... let me just install strace |
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| 23:36.35 | bzed | bitko: kind of smells like safe-mode being enabled, or such bullshit |
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| 23:36.52 | bitko | yeap |
| 23:37.08 | bitko | http://pastebin.com/6dYvC5Jr |
| 23:37.17 | bitko | anyway output from ~/www |
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| 23:39.42 | bitko | and output from working one http://pastebin.com/DcQ5WAjF - and now I'm checking safe-mode .. |
| 23:40.14 | bzed | bitko: try chgrp 1006 ~/www |
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| 23:41.26 | bzed | bitko: but I don't think thats the problem :) |
| 23:41.33 | bitko | ioctl(3, SNDCTL_TMR_TIMEBASE or TCGETS, 0xbf8e7d18) = -1 ENOTTY (Inappropriate ioctl for device) |
| 23:41.36 | bzed | yeah |
| 23:41.37 | bitko | this smells :D |
| 23:41.40 | bzed | that is weird |
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| 23:42.16 | bzed | bitko: but thats in your working one, too ;) |
| 23:42.49 | bzed | bitko: try to chgrp the www directory to yourself |
| 23:43.06 | bitko | thats not the problem for sure ;] |
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| 23:43.10 | bitko | I've added new user |
| 23:43.14 | bitko | created www folder |
| 23:43.18 | bitko | and I have the same problem :D |
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| 23:45.52 | bitko | hmm I've created one more user and it's working now |
| 23:45.57 | bitko | really strange ;] |
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| 23:50.41 | bitko | bzed: ok works. I've recreated user |
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| 23:50.54 | bitko | bzed: It might have been some issues with folder permissions |
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