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| 00:00.27 | zykotick9 | !tell enkidu about pastebin.com |
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| 00:03.57 | enkidu | zykotick9: acknowledged. anyways - could you take a look? |
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| 00:04.32 | zykotick9 | enkidu: i won't no, but maybe someone else will. best of luck. |
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| 00:05.09 | zykotick9 | enkidu: a pastebin without context isn't going to get much attention however... |
| 00:05.31 | enkidu | context: cannot login to remote host |
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| 00:16.58 | elkingrey | I'm getting this error when trying to set up my usb with the iso I Download of Debian Testing from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/initrd.gz failed. Please try downloading the ISO file from the website directly and supply it via the diskimage option." |
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| 00:21.07 | musca | elkingrey: testing is in early phase of development and the installer isn't expected to work flawlessly. |
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| 00:21.31 | elkingrey | musca: How should I go about creating a bootable usb for it? |
| 00:21.35 | musca | your image is for testing the installer, not for installing jessie. |
| 00:21.52 | elkingrey | huh? |
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| 00:22.27 | elkingrey | musca: I downloaded debian-testing-amd64-i386-netinst.iso was that wrong? |
| 00:23.51 | musca | not wrong, just expect errors. there is a bugtracker to report them. |
| 00:25.31 | musca | elkingrey: for support of testing you can visit #debian-next on oftc.net |
| 00:25.35 | elkingrey | Okay, so far it seems to be booting up. Too early to celebrate. It's asking me if I want to boot up sandisk cruzer or efi sandisk cruzer? I'm not used to anything other than bios, so... |
| 00:26.57 | mumpitze1 | elkingrey: yes that was wrong. most likely your installation will not go through due to some error in the installer |
| 00:27.07 | mumpitze1 | happens quite often. but of course you might be lucky |
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| 00:30.00 | elkingrey | what's the difference between install, 64 bit install, and graphical install? |
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| 00:34.28 | enkidu | okay, it was human problem with new server room operator |
| 00:36.46 | Chousuke | sid and testing are okay for desktop use if you can deal with occasional bugs. experimental kills kittens. |
| 00:37.06 | daemonkeeper | Experimental is an overlay suite. |
| 00:37.14 | daemonkeeper | Not a full distribution. |
| 00:37.16 | Chousuke | I occasionally install things from experimental but I always take a snapshot first :P |
| 00:37.17 | zykotick9 | Chousuke: don't delude yourself. testing/sid kills kittens as well ;) |
| 00:37.47 | Chousuke | I run sid on my desktop. :P it works okay. |
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| 00:38.56 | Chousuke | I do have cron jobs taking snapshots every 4 hours though. |
| 00:39.16 | Chousuke | so if something breaks, it's pretty trivial to undo |
| 00:39.55 | Chousuke | unless btrfs itself breaks. which fortunately hasn't happened to me yet |
| 00:39.57 | vampi-the-frog | hi guys. I just found one of the drives in my 4-drive RAID 5 array was *missing* from the array. I looked at the smartctl output and there seems to be no error, so I re-added the drive to the array. Is this alright? I'll be running a SMART self-test on it after it finishes adding anyway |
| 00:40.09 | vampi-the-frog | (mdadm) |
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| 00:41.08 | Chousuke | vampi-the-frog: if the drive were broken the system would spam you with emails about it. |
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| 00:41.35 | vampi-the-frog | oh looks like there are a few :o |
| 00:42.01 | Chousuke | it will happen even if the drive is just removed from the array though |
| 00:42.51 | Chousuke | most likely what will happen is that if the drive is broken, the re-add will fail and you get more mail :P |
| 00:43.01 | vampi-the-frog | I've been getting emails since Oct 16 apparently |
| 00:43.13 | vampi-the-frog | but only on localhost, oh well |
| 00:43.24 | vampi-the-frog | okay, now how can I see what the error is? |
| 00:44.03 | Chousuke | you'd have to dig through dmesg and other logs for any indication of read errors and such on the affected drive. |
| 00:45.13 | Chousuke | as long as the drives in the rest of your raid array are okay, I don't think you will corrupt or lose anything |
| 00:45.25 | vampi-the-frog | hmm |
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| 00:45.41 | vampi-the-frog | smartctl -x shows errors for all 4 drives, or perhaps I'm not reading it correctly |
| 00:45.53 | Chousuke | depends on what the errors are I guess |
| 00:46.01 | Chousuke | some drives like to report crazy values |
| 00:46.35 | Chousuke | smart is usually just an indication that a drive might be at risk of failing, not that it has already failed. |
| 00:47.20 | Chousuke | and md is more likely to notice any breakage before smart, anyway |
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| 00:49.11 | vampi-the-frog | http://paste.debian.net/66217/ http://paste.debian.net/66218/ http://paste.debian.net/66219 http://paste.debian.net/66220 |
| 00:50.21 | vampi-the-frog | Chousuke: how would md notice errors? read time-outs? |
| 00:51.09 | vampi-the-frog | I'm sure I heard some clicks at some point though |
| 00:52.49 | Chousuke | :P clicks are not good |
| 00:54.05 | vampi-the-frog | could high temperature (like 60C) have an effect? syslog seems to say something about temperature |
| 00:54.50 | Chousuke | it usually doesn't help |
| 00:55.09 | Chousuke | I broke two drives in my NAS by letting it overheat a couple too many time |
| 00:55.09 | Chousuke | s |
| 00:56.07 | vampi-the-frog | gotta add some fans in there |
| 00:56.09 | vampi-the-frog | :/ |
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| 00:57.32 | vampi-the-frog | I think it's possible that during heating, md detected some sluggishness and decided to mark it as failed, correct? |
| 00:58.02 | Chousuke | hmm, I don't know about that |
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| 01:00.07 | Chousuke | It's probably best to keep a spare drive at hand. |
| 01:00.17 | Chousuke | in case one goes pop soon |
| 01:01.02 | Chousuke | or if the one you're re-adding already has, and is just slow to die completely :P |
| 01:02.01 | vampi-the-frog | gosh I don't have that kind of money :< |
| 01:02.29 | Chousuke | :/ |
| 01:03.10 | vampi-the-frog | I'll just add a fan in there, it's all I can do right now, and get a new drive as soon as I can afford it. |
| 01:03.21 | vampi-the-frog | meanwhile, I'll have to configure mdadm emails properly hmm |
| 01:05.56 | vampi-the-frog | brb |
| 01:07.03 | Chousuke | your RAID array would work with a single failed drive I guess, but your data will be at risk and perf will take a hit. |
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| 01:07.46 | DoctorWedgeworth | I've got two servers, A and B. A can connect to B using SSH keys, B cannot connect to A using the same SSH key. Permissions of ~/.ssh and ~/.ssh/* are the same. md5sums of the keys are the same, md5sums of /etc/sshd/sshd_config and /etc/pam.d/sshd are the same, and the only thing I can see in the logs (even with DEBUG3) is Failed publickey for root from IP_addr |
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| 01:09.12 | Chousuke | you shouldn't use the same key on both A and B in the first place, but have you checked that authorized_keys are correct on both hosts? |
| 01:10.30 | elkingrey | Alright. I think I'm giving up on running Gnome 3 with my brand new computer. Sad. How do I get it to run kde? Just give it a normal stable install, and then afterwards install the kde-full package? |
| 01:10.53 | Chousuke | ideally, ssh keys should be one per user per host, so you should have a private/public key pair for both A and B, with A's pubkey in B's allowed keys, and B's pubkey in A's. |
| 01:11.07 | elkingrey | Seems like there should be a way to avoid installing gnome altogether if doing so from a fresh install |
| 01:11.12 | DoctorWedgeworth | the authorized_keys line was copied across. I wasn't initially using the same key on both, but I'm trying to isolate down by using a known working key, then I'll change it back |
| 01:11.31 | Chousuke | elkingrey: there is. just don't install it :P |
| 01:11.41 | elkingrey | Chousuke: How? |
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| 01:12.05 | Chousuke | it's an option when you install debian, and you can leave it unchecked? |
| 01:12.07 | elkingrey | It doesn't give me a list of options during the install, like KDE or Gnome... |
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| 01:12.34 | Chousuke | you can choose not to install a DE at all, and then just use the command line to apt-get yourself KDE. |
| 01:12.56 | Chousuke | what's your problem with gnome anyway? graphics driver issues? |
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| 01:13.35 | elkingrey | No, it's a long story. I've been told that my intel haswell graphics are "too new" for debian stable |
| 01:13.44 | Chousuke | oh. hmm |
| 01:13.51 | Chousuke | testing too? |
| 01:13.57 | Chousuke | or backports? |
| 01:14.14 | elkingrey | testing was a disaster, and backports didn't work. |
| 01:14.33 | Chousuke | what trouble did you have with testing? :/ |
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| 01:14.45 | elkingrey | It's alright. I'm going to give kde a try. I found this: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopHowTo and Select a Desktop |
| 01:14.50 | Chousuke | I find it more stable than stable releases of Fedora |
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| 01:15.12 | elkingrey | I guess I'll just keep my eyes peeled for the advanced options part during the install. i don't remember seeing it before, thoguh. |
| 01:15.16 | Chousuke | I mean, Fedora is good, but it has a tendency to break at times. |
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| 01:15.44 | Chousuke | elkingrey: might be that you need to do an expert install |
| 01:15.54 | elkingrey | Chousuke: For testing? |
| 01:16.03 | Chousuke | to get the option not to install a DE |
| 01:16.16 | Chousuke | but I don't know, I always do expert installs |
| 01:16.18 | elkingrey | Chousuke: I couldn't get it to find kernel modules during installation of testing |
| 01:16.29 | Chousuke | huh. hm |
| 01:16.41 | elkingrey | Screw it, going to try kde now. |
| 01:16.53 | elkingrey | Let's hope I find it during installation. Thanks for the tip. |
| 01:17.02 | Chousuke | if your graphics drivers are missing, I doubt KDE will work either :/ |
| 01:17.12 | Chousuke | at least, not very fast |
| 01:17.33 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Do I have to wait 2 years for them to hit stable? |
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| 01:17.58 | Chousuke | you might get away with just installing a newer kernel and a newer mesa from unstable/testing |
| 01:18.20 | elkingrey | Chousuke: My graphics driver is currently llvmpipe, which people have complained about on forums, but I don't know why. Well, I know why, because it won't load my graphics card! |
| 01:18.35 | Chousuke | llvmpipe is a software renderer |
| 01:18.40 | Chousuke | so yeah |
| 01:18.43 | elkingrey | what does that mean? |
| 01:18.52 | Chousuke | it means it's not using your GPU at all |
| 01:19.00 | elkingrey | unbelievable |
| 01:19.01 | Chousuke | it's doing all the rendering on the CPU |
| 01:19.12 | elkingrey | I feel like this should be an easy fix. |
| 01:19.29 | Chousuke | I don't think running debian stable is an option for you |
| 01:19.44 | Chousuke | do you know which kernel/mesa you need for haswell support? |
| 01:19.49 | elkingrey | Chousuke: I just couldn't get the testing to install. I need help. |
| 01:19.56 | elkingrey | No |
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| 01:20.47 | Chousuke | elkingrey: did you try the text mode installer? |
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| 01:20.55 | Chousuke | how did it actually fail? |
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| 01:21.09 | elkingrey | I downloaded this, for starters, debian-testing-amd64-i386-netinst.iso Is that the right one? |
| 01:21.17 | Chousuke | looks like it |
| 01:21.28 | elkingrey | Okay, then I tried putting it on a usb |
| 01:21.36 | elkingrey | Not entirely positive I did that correctly. |
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| 01:21.46 | elkingrey | I can do it again, though. |
| 01:21.54 | Chousuke | if it booted, it should be okay |
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| 01:22.49 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Okay, I'm going to try it again. Give me a few mins and I'll get back to you for the boot process. |
| 01:22.49 | Chousuke | so when did it fail and did you get an error message? |
| 01:22.55 | Chousuke | oaky |
| 01:22.56 | Chousuke | okay |
| 01:23.00 | elkingrey | Thank you very much |
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| 01:25.07 | NotNice | Hello everyone |
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| 01:25.37 | elkingrey | Chousuke, right now I've opened Unetbootin, picked distribution Debian and testing_HdMedia_x64 and it tells me "Download of Debian Testing from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/initrd.gz failed. Please try downloading the ISO file from the website directly and supply it via the diskimage option." So, I'm going to just choose the iso, like I did last time. Will get |
| 01:25.38 | elkingrey | back to you in a few. |
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| 01:26.12 | thepro4ever | I want to play minecraft feed the beast with a friend on my debian box which only has 2 GB of ram, is there any cool tips/tricks i could do to squeeze out better performance so that I can keep up with him without getting latency tonight? I can't aford to upgrade my machine |
| 01:26.38 | Chousuke | hd-media? I don't even know what that is. :P |
| 01:27.08 | Chousuke | 2GB of RAM is not enough for minecraft? |
| 01:27.36 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Well, normally when I want to create a bootable USB drive, I can't just choose diskimage for some bizarre reason. It tells me to select distribution, debian, and then hdmedia and it uses the iso I have downloaded |
| 01:28.08 | Chousuke | hmm :/ I don't know much about unetbootin so I can't really help with it |
| 01:28.12 | thepro4ever | Chousuke: its more than enough for vanilla minecraft but not enough for feed the beast minecraft without getting lag |
| 01:28.16 | elkingrey | Chousuke: And that seems to work. |
| 01:28.28 | thepro4ever | Chousuke: that 2GB is shared between my OS and minecraft |
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| 01:28.34 | elkingrey | Chousuke: No worries, I'll get back to you during the installation process. |
| 01:28.35 | Chousuke | elkingrey: it seems like haswell support was added in 3.8 kernel or so, and mesa 9.1 |
| 01:29.07 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Awesome info! Thanks! |
| 01:29.41 | Chousuke | it looks like not even unstable has mesa 9.1 yet :| |
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| 01:30.02 | Chousuke | oh wait, that's just the utils package |
| 01:30.08 | mumpitze1 | elkingrey: unebooting gives you a high chance of a failed installation too |
| 01:30.12 | mumpitze1 | !tell elkingrey about unetbootin |
| 01:30.18 | Chousuke | the actual library is at 9.2 |
| 01:30.30 | Chousuke | so if you can get testing installed with the 3.10 kernel, you should be okay |
| 01:30.51 | mumpitze1 | elkingrey: you should simply upgrade your wheezy installation to testing. NOT to reinstall |
| 01:31.14 | Chousuke | that could work too :P |
| 01:31.15 | mumpitze1 | and especially not with a testing installer which isn't intended for installing debian |
| 01:31.37 | koshie | Hey |
| 01:31.40 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: Alright, if I can't get this working I'll do that next. |
| 01:32.00 | Chousuke | elkingrey: if you already have wheezy installed, upgrading it will be way easier |
| 01:32.02 | mumpitze1 | elkingrey: you can't do that next cause then you have overwritten your current debian installation |
| 01:32.32 | Chousuke | you just edit sources.list, run aptitude full-upgrade, and install the new kernel in case it didn't get installed automatically. |
| 01:32.38 | elkingrey | Chousuke: I've done a lot to hash my installation over the last day or so, so I don't mind reinstalling. |
| 01:33.12 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Okay, first question, should I choose SanDisk Cruzer 1.26 or UEFI: SanDisk Cruzer 1.26 as my boot option? |
| 01:33.23 | koshie | I would like to move some of my folder (as /var, /usr) out of my root. What's the best way to proceed? I guess create first the partition and then modify /etc/fstab to point the folder on the partitions and finally move the content of the folders of my root to the desired partition. |
| 01:33.27 | Chousuke | no idea. probably the non-UEFI one. |
| 01:33.31 | elkingrey | k |
| 01:33.58 | Chousuke | koshie: boot to single user mode to do that. |
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| 01:34.31 | koshie | or a debian live on an usb, for example. It do the tricks to and I can read Internet or talk here for help for example :) |
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| 01:34.38 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Okay, now I have A LOT of options. Default, Install, 64 bit install, Graphical install, 64 bit graphical install, expert install, automated install, 64 bit expert install, 64 bit automated install, graphical expert install, or graphical automated install |
| 01:34.59 | koshie | Chousuke: and of course I'll proceed to a copy (dd) of my hard drive to a file on an external drive |
| 01:35.05 | Chousuke | you'll want 64 bit expert install probably |
| 01:35.18 | koshie | Don't you think an USB live works too?N |
| 01:35.23 | Chousuke | expert install actually isn't that expert :P |
| 01:35.42 | Chousuke | koshie: it will work. |
| 01:35.58 | koshie | Ok |
| 01:36.01 | DoctorWedgeworth | right this ssh key issue I'm having is getting confusing. If I copy the key from ~/.ssh/id_rsa to ~/blah, ssh -i blah root@host works but ssh -i .ssh/id_rsa root@host doesn't. .ssh/ is root:root 700. Any ideas? |
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| 01:36.12 | koshie | Anyway, my view of the way to proceed seems good, right? |
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| 01:36.52 | Chousuke | koshie: should work. though I don't think separate /usr is very liked nowadays. |
| 01:37.23 | koshie | Chousuke: It's about a space problem and if I'm begining to "optimize" my partionning, why not put it out of my root to reserve a consistent space for my programs? |
| 01:37.53 | Chousuke | koshie: you can't boot a full system without /usr anyway so it belongs under root |
| 01:37.58 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Okay, now it's telling me "No kernel modules were found. This probably is due to a mismatch between the kernel used by this version of the installer and the kernel version available in the archive. If you're installing from a mirror, you can work around this problem by choosing to install a different version of Debian. The install will probably fail to work if you continue without kernel modules. Continue the |
| 01:37.58 | elkingrey | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.03 | koshie | Chousuke: you can put it out root |
| 01:38.10 | koshie | I'm doing it for my server, works very well |
| 01:38.36 | koshie | And I'm sure program will never take out of the space of my root, as on my laptop. |
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| 01:39.03 | koshie | /dev/sda6/usrext4defaults,relatime12 |
| 01:39.09 | Chousuke | you should use lvm and not worry about these things anyway :) |
| 01:39.11 | koshie | sorry for the charset copy problem. |
| 01:39.29 | koshie | Chousuke: yeah maybe... But I don't why, it's the kind of stuff which make me inconfortable. |
| 01:40.07 | koshie | And I'm not removing so much my partition. If I'm doing my plan as I write here and on a forum I'm pretty sure to never touch it for years. |
| 01:40.23 | Chousuke | well, you can do what you want. |
| 01:40.26 | koshie | So I probably don't need to worry about LVM, even if it's better when you need to move stuff :) |
| 01:40.33 | koshie | Anyway thanks for the advices ;) |
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| 01:40.57 | Chousuke | I mean, I'm not one to talk. I manually fudged around in a terminal when I installed debian to get it to put my / on a btrfs subvolume |
| 01:41.13 | koshie | :D |
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| 01:41.28 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Based on the message, should I just scrap the method of directly installing testing? |
| 01:42.26 | Chousuke | elkingrey: I'm not sure why you get that message. |
| 01:42.56 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Okay, I'll scrap it. Going to do a fresh install of stable, and then try the upgrade to testing method. I don't know how to do that though. |
| 01:42.56 | Chousuke | can you switch to the second tty with alt-f2 and tell me what uname -a says? |
| 01:43.01 | mumpitze1 | Chousuke: tons of crazy problems with unetbootin |
| 01:43.22 | Chousuke | elkingrey: upgrade to testing from wheezy is easy |
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| 01:44.00 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Linux (none) 3.11-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.11.6-2 (2013-11-01) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 01:44.14 | elkingrey | Alright, going to do fresh install now. |
| 01:45.08 | Chousuke | elkingrey: how to upgrade: vi /etc/apt/sources.list<enter>:%s/wheezy/jessie/<enter>:wq<enter>aptitude update<enter>aptitude full-upgrade<enter> |
| 01:45.59 | Chousuke | might want to remove the stable-only repos from sources.list when you do that but that's not strictly necessary |
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| 01:47.58 | Chousuke | koshie: having debian installed on btrfs subvolumes is nice when I feel like experimenting. reverting to an old root takes two commands and a reboot. |
| 01:49.25 | Chousuke | just cd /mnt/rootfs; mv debian-root old-root, btrfs subvolume snapshot root-readonly-snapshot debian-root; reboot :P |
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| 01:50.49 | Chousuke | I had this machine where I had debian, fedora and arch all under one root filesystem when I was testing out different distros |
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| 01:52.28 | Chousuke | fedora was the most difficult to get installed on a btrfs subvolume :/ anaconda choked when I tried, so I had to install it on another drive first and then copy it over. |
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| 01:53.03 | hiyo777 | Hello I have a debian install with full disk encryption and now when I bootup it says something about busybox and then it has a kernel panic |
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| 01:53.31 | aquaticape | I'm trying to check my hard drive health. I've issued a "smartctl -t long /dev/sdb" but "smartctl -a /dev/sdb" doesn't show the test in progress. Am I doing something wrong? |
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| 01:54.04 | Chousuke | hiyo777: did you try booting with a previous kernel? |
| 01:54.10 | Chousuke | or initrd |
| 01:54.16 | mumpitze1 | aquaticape: it should show the done tests at the bottom when your run -a |
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| 01:55.04 | hiyo777 | Chousuke: No I have no idea on how to rescue it since it has full disk encryption |
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| 01:57.02 | mumpitze1 | hiyo777: then restore from backups |
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| 01:59.49 | matjaz | any mpd/ncmpcpp brainiacs here? |
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| 02:00.59 | zacts | interesting when using openbox + tick2 network manager doesn't disconnect anymore |
| 02:01.06 | zacts | but with gnome3 desktop it does |
| 02:01.08 | zacts | odd |
| 02:01.26 | zacts | I believe tick2 uses gnome3's network manager |
| 02:01.26 | matjaz | I want to remove a folder from mpd library BUT I want to still browse it with ncmpcpp |
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| 02:01.32 | matjaz | is this even possible? |
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| 02:03.34 | hiyo777 | Chousuke: but how do I restore a previous kernel then? |
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| 02:03.46 | hiyo777 | Chousuke: even though I haven't updated the kernel... |
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| 02:04.34 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Okay, clean fresh install, haven't even updated packages yet. Here is my default sources.list http://pastebin.com/ahEyYu3D Can you edit that for me to exactly what I need it to be? |
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| 02:08.04 | DigitalCrypto | Can pxeboot be used to boot the livecd images? |
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| 02:12.18 | elkingrey | Have some weird errors when trying to update to jessie: pastebin.com/b9Y7Ljke |
| 02:13.34 | DigitalCrypto | elkingrey: internet connection is working? |
| 02:13.46 | gnmearacaun | matjaz: you can set up a temp directory in your mpd folder and symlink any music to that folder with a script available on the net |
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| 02:14.37 | elkingrey | DigitalCrypto: That did it! =) |
| 02:14.42 | DigitalCrypto | ;) |
| 02:14.49 | Chousuke | elkingrey: just replace wheezy with jessie |
| 02:15.09 | DigitalCrypto | in place upgrades make me nervous |
| 02:15.12 | elkingrey | I wrongly assumed that the network password would be saved from when I installed debian, had to put it in again. |
| 02:15.13 | Chousuke | elkingrey: anything that doesn't actually exist will just give you a 404 error and is harmless |
| 02:15.24 | gnmearacaun | matjaz: http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Hack:musicplaynow |
| 02:15.58 | Chousuke | hiyo777: you should have advanced options in the grub menu that allows you to boot using an old kernel/initrd |
| 02:16.45 | elkingrey | Still getting this error though during update: pastebin.com/0svMjCj4 |
| 02:17.16 | Chousuke | don't uncomment the cdrom |
| 02:17.21 | Chousuke | you don't want |
| 02:17.21 | Chousuke | it |
| 02:17.23 | DigitalCrypto | edit apt sources.list and comment out the cdrom |
| 02:17.44 | elkingrey | okay, but I don't think I ever did uncomment it. Maybe it was that way by default |
| 02:17.57 | Chousuke | hm, it shouldn't be I think |
| 02:18.07 | DigitalCrypto | if you installed from cdrom it's there by default afaik |
| 02:18.32 | Chousuke | and now I got some problems with my NAS :P |
| 02:18.42 | zacts | the only system which I like to do in-place upgrades is FreeBSD and only within the same, major branch. 9.* or 10.* if I'm running 10. |
| 02:18.46 | DigitalCrypto | Chousuke: get the hammer that doesn't bounce |
| 02:18.47 | Chousuke | a disk IO test got stuck and I can't even kill -9 it |
| 02:19.04 | DigitalCrypto | use top to see if it zombied |
| 02:19.33 | Chousuke | the best part was that I can still log in and all |
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| 02:19.44 | Chousuke | but when I try to run sync, it gets stuck too... |
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| 02:20.43 | Chousuke | blah |
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| 02:22.37 | elkingrey | Chousuke: Okay, looks like it's going to take about 1.5 hours to download all the new packages. |
| 02:22.53 | DigitalCrypto | elkingrey: KDE? |
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| 02:22.54 | elkingrey | Chousuke: I'll get back to you and let you know how it goes. |
| 02:23.18 | Chousuke | elkingrey: heh, you don't have very fast internets do you? |
| 02:23.33 | elkingrey | DigitalCrypto: No, fresh install of gnome, updgrading to testing so that it can get the right kernel, etc. for my graphics card. |
| 02:23.44 | elkingrey | Chousuke: 2.4 Mbps =( |
| 02:23.45 | Chousuke | before I got a SSD, it would routinely take me way longer to install packages than to download them |
| 02:23.57 | DigitalCrypto | would it not be easier to just upgrade the kernel by itself and then the video drivers? |
| 02:24.29 | Chousuke | DigitalCrypto: but then you would end up with a stable/testing abomination from hell |
| 02:24.35 | elkingrey | DigitalCrypto: Tried that unsucessfully, but it's okay because this is a good leearning experience. ;) |
| 02:24.52 | DigitalCrypto | Chousuke: you mean like Ubuntu? |
| 02:25.08 | Chousuke | DigitalCrypto: ubuntu is special |
| 02:25.27 | DigitalCrypto | yes it would seem so |
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| 02:26.12 | Chousuke | ubuntu is the only user of compiz, upstart and mir, I can only wonder why. |
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| 02:27.02 | Chousuke | I really hope debian doesn't go with upstart :( |
| 02:27.12 | DigitalCrypto | I don't really have a problem with being forced to try and use Unity....it's the spyware that i have a problem with |
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| 02:27.31 | Chousuke | you can remove that. |
| 02:27.36 | Chousuke | it's not spyware |
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| 02:29.31 | Chousuke | Linux land is so weird, it's hard to find anything that does everything just right. |
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| 02:31.10 | Chousuke | like, Fedora is great with new software and SELinux by default (and it actually works) and all but then the packaging is a bit weird and you're basically forced to use rpmfusion for many popular packages and their quality is less than stellar. |
| 02:31.23 | Chousuke | Debian is solid, but kind of slow to move anywhere |
| 02:31.55 | Chousuke | and then there is the rest and I don't really know what they're trying to do. |
| 02:33.35 | klys | tah-tah. |
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| 03:03.42 | abailarri | Hello. Some days ago, my iceweasel not reproduce the sound of flash content like youtube. I don't know why. Any suggestion? |
| 03:06.32 | ChibaPet | abailarri: sudo alsamixer |
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| 03:08.19 | abailarri | ChibaPet, the sound is in the max |
| 03:09.18 | ChibaPet | Are you running pulseaudio? |
| 03:09.46 | ChibaPet | I find PulseAudio getting its settings corrupted sometimes, or things will mute or lower volumes unexpectedly. |
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| 03:10.31 | abailarri | ChibaPet, in the settings of pulse audio is all correct |
| 03:10.33 | justanotheruser | dpkg xampp |
| 03:10.33 | dpkg | XAMPP for Linux (formerly LAMPP) is a way of installing lots of software that is already packaged for Debian. Don't use XAMPP, instead use aptitude install apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-mysql mysql-server gettext perl libapache2-mod-perl2 sqlite webalizer mcrypt expat proftpd libpng3 libjpeg62 ... actually, just ask me about <search>. |
| 03:10.37 | abailarri | the sound of the pc is correct |
| 03:10.48 | abailarri | onlye not sound the icewweasel |
| 03:11.49 | ChibaPet | abailarri: Odd. Hm. I'm not sure, then, sorry. |
| 03:11.52 | FuuqUmist | so there is no XAMPP for Debian? |
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| 03:13.11 | tomatosalad | anybody have a good primer on securing your debian server, *especially* on the apache/php/sql/etc side? |
| 03:13.48 | FuuqUmist | just use XAMPP it has a simple security check for that stuff |
| 03:14.23 | aquaticape | Does the debian version of sed supports hex? |
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| 03:15.22 | tomatosalad | FuuqUmist: won't that f up my current install of all that? |
| 03:15.40 | FuuqUmist | i don't know, maybe |
| 03:16.07 | phunyguy | So I have a weird question about konqueror, and I was wondering if anyone here has a fix. Whenever I go to Facebook in that browser, instead of only loading a small section of the newsfeed, it seems to load as much as it possibly can, resulting in an eventual freeze/crash |
| 03:16.26 | phunyguy | other browsers don't do this. |
| 03:16.40 | FuuqUmist | use the other browsers :) |
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| 03:18.35 | socomm | phunyguy: don't go to facebook, problem solved |
| 03:18.38 | socomm | phew that was easy |
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| 03:19.51 | lnxusr | Hi. I am trying to install debian on dell r710. I get "missing firmware files for bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1a.fw" when detecting network on install. This is the broadcom nic? Is there a image that includes this, and other drivers? I am using the netinstall so far. |
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| 03:21.58 | cvillelk | phunyguy: Have you looked into switching konqueror to Webkit? |
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| 03:22.19 | cvillelk | rather than KHTML (default) |
| 03:22.50 | cvillelk | I doubt many sites test compatibility with KHTML |
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| 03:23.13 | phunyguy | hmm I have not |
| 03:23.19 | phunyguy | cvillelk: is that fairly easy? |
| 03:23.26 | Cyis | anyone know what's up with anonscm.d.o? |
| 03:23.48 | ChibaPet | What's the different between webkit and khtml? I thought webkit was based on Konqueror's engine. |
| 03:24.08 | cvillelk | I browsed around a little and you're right, it is based on it |
| 03:24.35 | cvillelk | but Webkit has supposedly since surpassed KHTML, and is more common |
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| 03:24.55 | phunyguy | I found the option, but webkit isn't listed. Is it a different package? |
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| 03:25.02 | cvillelk | yes |
| 03:25.14 | phunyguy | ok |
| 03:25.15 | cvillelk | apt: kpart-webkit |
| 03:25.23 | phunyguy | tyvm |
| 03:25.28 | cvillelk | np |
| 03:26.10 | phunyguy | I hope this works, because I really like konwueror |
| 03:26.15 | phunyguy | s/w/q/ |
| 03:26.49 | phunyguy | that worked!!!!! |
| 03:26.55 | phunyguy | oh awesome. Thanks! |
| 03:27.32 | phunyguy | and even better, with my dark theme, I don't have to load a custom stylesheet to make pages appear correctly. |
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| 03:47.56 | sudomakemesandwi | good evening |
| 03:48.18 | zacts | lo |
| 03:48.44 | sudomakemesandwi | Looks like my box was hacked, I see 2 loging for 00:00 seconds from somewhere in Romania in my last log. What can I do to see if anything was done miliscouse to my box |
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| 03:50.04 | ChibaPet | sudomakemesandwi: Disconnect, take a back-up of your hard disk from external boot media so you don't destroy forensics. |
| 03:50.32 | sudomakemesandwi | ChibaPet: i can't its a vps. |
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| 03:51.48 | sudomakemesandwi | i don't see anything suspecious at all. I wouldn't have even known if not for that login log |
| 03:52.07 | azizLIGHTS | how do i delete a user |
| 03:52.34 | buu | deluser |
| 03:52.43 | azizLIGHTS | what happens to the user's group by the name of his username after i do deluser |
| 03:53.02 | azizLIGHTS | and the user's home dir |
| 03:53.11 | buu | homedir stays |
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| 03:53.16 | buu | group goes I think |
| 03:53.55 | buu | man deluser |
| 03:54.04 | azizLIGHTS | Warning: group `tester' has no more members. |
| 03:54.17 | azizLIGHTS | and tester group has disappered from /etc/group |
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| 03:57.48 | zacts | is the plan for debian to use wayland? |
| 03:57.51 | zacts | in the future? |
| 03:57.57 | zacts | (if there even is a plan) |
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| 03:59.58 | ChibaPet | Haven't heard of one yet. |
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| 04:00.25 | Ticked_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.16 | buu | Does /var/tripwire exist? |
| 04:02.19 | Ticked_ | Well with the problem the numbers at the end is going to be different every time I run the tripwire -m u command will that matter I am looking for the directory right now |
| 04:02.26 | Ticked_ | K |
| 04:02.26 | Ticked_ | Lye |
| 04:02.32 | petn-randall | sudomakemesandwi: Can you show us the logs on http://paste.debian.net? |
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| 04:05.45 | Ticked_ | Buu no /var/tripwire can I just create it with sudo mkdir tripwire? |
| 04:06.09 | buu | Sounds like some terrible install instructions, but sure, why not. |
| 04:06.53 | Ticked_ | buu that want hurt anything I want it to be right |
| 04:07.26 | Ticked_ | ? |
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| 04:08.41 | Ticked_ | What do I do to make sure that I do it the right way |
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| 04:09.57 | Ticked_ | Guess I need to give up on linux agen |
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| 04:10.25 | petn-randall | Well, that escalated quickly. |
| 04:10.51 | Ticked_ | I just can't keep fighting with this computer |
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| 04:11.22 | petn-randall | Ticked_: There's a Debian package for tripwire, why don't you use that? |
| 04:11.29 | buu | Good. I suggest osx. It won't work but at least it will look shiny while it doesn't work. |
| 04:11.39 | Ticked_ | I have done just as said |
| 04:12.32 | buu | A) obviously you didn't B) you never told us which "linux page" you managed to find C) there are easier ways to do this |
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| 04:12.45 | petn-randall | Ticked_: Which release are you running? |
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| 04:13.00 | Ticked_ | Wheezy 7.2 |
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| 04:13.55 | petn-randall | Ticked_: And how did you install tripwire? |
| 04:14.45 | Ticked_ | Can I just create the tripwire directory with mkdir tripwire under /var or would that be bad |
| 04:15.23 | Ticked_ | Sudo apt-get install tripwire |
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| 04:15.59 | Rymax99 | Anyone ever try UNrealIRC? |
| 04:16.24 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 04:16.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 04:16.53 | buu | Is there really no way to make p.d.o show me the contents of a package? |
| 04:17.03 | Rymax99 | !ask Anyone ever try UnrealIRC |
| 04:17.24 | Rymax99 | wut |
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| 04:18.31 | Ticked_ | petn-Randall was the way installed it wrong? |
| 04:18.37 | petn-randall | Hi Rymax99[Off], this is the support channel. If you have a specific question, just ask. If you feel like discussing things not directly related to Debian stable, feel free to head over to #debian-offtopic. |
| 04:19.27 | elkingrey | Chousuke, mumpitzel: Okay, I'm in the process of upgrading and it tells me this: pastebin.com/8AyUZqkA |
| 04:19.47 | petn-randall | Ticked_: That was the right way, I'm just wondering how you can end up with a broken installation. |
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| 04:21.24 | elkingrey | and then it tells me I may need to add the contrib and nonfree repos to get the firmware. What the heck? That doesn't sound right at all. This is supposed to be a 100% free software compaitble computer. |
| 04:21.39 | Ticked_ | Petn-Randall could just go to cd /var the mkdir tripwire and fix it or no I really want to learn the right way |
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| 04:23.31 | petn-randall | Ticked: Did you read the README that came with the package yet? |
| 04:24.21 | Ticked | petn-randall sorry I got kicked would that be wrong to do that every time I have ever installed tripwire it has been like that |
| 04:24.38 | ctmjr | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.39 | petn-randall | Ticked: You first have to initialize tripwire before it works. |
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| 04:24.57 | Ticked | petn-randall yes I did |
| 04:25.40 | Ticked | ctmjr yes |
| 04:26.10 | petn-randall | Ticked: There's no directory missing, it's the file that's missing. |
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| 04:30.28 | Ticked | petn-randall this is what I did after install finished twadmin -m P -S site.key twpol.txt then twadmin -m F S site.key twcfg.txt entered local password for them both and then sudo tripwire -m I |
| 04:31.48 | petn-randall | Ticked: This might be of interest to you: https://eldon.me/?p=20 |
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| 04:32.13 | Ticked | petn-randall was that wrong? |
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| 04:32.49 | Ticked | Petn-randall thank you I'll look at it |
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| 04:33.52 | Ticked | petn-randall would the install on Sid be the same as wheezy? |
| 04:33.57 | elkingrey | Chousuke, mumpitzel: Well, after the upgrade and reboot it's still loading gnome 3 fallback mode. =( |
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| 04:37.36 | Ticked | petn-randall thanks a lot I am going to uninstall tripwire and try the install like that thank you so very much |
| 04:40.42 | Ticked | And my last question for the night is that the tor proxy anyone know if it is worth using I know that people can see what your doing but they cannot see where you are or your real ip right ? I been hearing a lot of bad things about tor but I just want to hide my location so would tor be ok or no? |
| 04:41.13 | mumpitzel | elkingrey: do you have /dev/fb* |
| 04:41.38 | mumpitzel | Ticked: ok. but tor alone is not enough |
| 04:41.43 | petn-randall | Ticked: Don't use sid, only replace every instance of sid with wheezy in your mind. |
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| 04:42.20 | Ticked | petn-randall gotcha will do that you |
| 04:42.24 | ctmjr | Ticked, Tor is ok but the exit node can see everything you do and a lot of bad people set up exit nodes |
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| 04:42.58 | digitalcrypto | Tor = Traceable On Request (NSA) |
| 04:43.13 | Ticked | So what do you guys recommend |
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| 04:43.20 | digitalcrypto | unplug the cable |
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| 04:44.17 | digitalcrypto | I mean, the Internet was designed to be open communications and you are trying to hide? |
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| 04:44.58 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: I have /dev/fb0 but I don't know what that means. |
| 04:45.03 | Ticked | ctmjr what do you recommend I am just wanting to hind my location what I do online well I don't say or do bad things but I know you guys know more about this than me I read that mi6 was running exit nodes also |
| 04:45.29 | digitalcrypto | everyone's got an exit node |
| 04:46.02 | digitalcrypto | Ticked: here's the thing. if they want to find you, they will. |
| 04:46.56 | Ticked | digitalcrypto oh I am sure |
| 04:47.21 | digitalcrypto | even this chat is logged |
| 04:47.23 | Ticked | But I am just asking advice from those that know more than I do about all this |
| 04:47.49 | digitalcrypto | don't do anything illegal and be polite like a good netizen with nothing to hide. |
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| 04:49.11 | Ticked | But like Said I am just trying to setup the best security and anonymity as possible and just looking for help |
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| 04:49.20 | xeon828 | can someone tell me how to erase my debian partition from the windows 7 partition manager? |
| 04:49.22 | xeon828 | i'm trying to reinstall it |
| 04:49.45 | xeon828 | i used a live cd now the only way i can log into debian is with a series of paths through the help menu |
| 04:49.53 | xeon828 | http://i.imgur.com/bBxImrd.png |
| 04:49.56 | digitalcrypto | Unplugged the network cable. Put the computer in the trash. Grind up the hard drive. |
| 04:49.58 | ctmjr | Ticked am not to paranoid about that kind of thing but i use duck duck go as my search engine and use plugins like do-not-track-me and https everywhere, |
| 04:51.12 | xeon828 | can someone tell me which one looks like the debian partition from this |
| 04:51.12 | xeon828 | http://i.imgur.com/bBxImrd.png |
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| 04:52.10 | Ticked | ctmjr I guess I am paranoid I guess it came from a time my system got hacked I know that kinda thing can never be stoped I am just not wanting to make things easy for anyone you know now that I have kids And all now |
| 04:52.11 | digitalcrypto | xeon828: the bottom two are windows. |
| 04:52.25 | mumpitzel | elkingrey: then show me your Xorg.0.log again |
| 04:52.28 | xeon828 | the 46.75 gb and 18.63 gb? |
| 04:52.45 | xeon828 | oh i see |
| 04:52.52 | xeon828 | i should erase those two |
| 04:52.58 | digitalcrypto | lulz |
| 04:53.07 | petn-randall | xeon828: You're asking a Windows question in #debian, hehe. Why don't you just erase it in the installer? |
| 04:53.22 | mumpitzel | xeon828: could be the first, the 2nd or both. look at it under debian, it will show you |
| 04:53.43 | digitalcrypto | Windows has its purpose.....to show people that there are no worse ways to build an OS. |
| 04:53.44 | mumpitzel | xeon828: do not eraste them before you haven't actually checked |
| 04:53.45 | petn-randall | xeon828: That way it'll detect if it finds a Debian installation there or not. |
| 04:54.27 | digitalcrypto | Ticked: if you want security then don't get on a comp. if you don't want to be hacked unplug the computer. |
| 04:54.30 | Ticked | digitalcrypto what all should I fear from the exit node can the exit node see my location? |
| 04:54.33 | xeon828 | from the looks of it though would you say it was debian though |
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| 04:54.48 | digitalcrypto | If you did a cable scan of your local network segment, you would see all those people scanning you back. |
| 04:54.59 | mumpitzel | xeon828: doing anything like this in windows is a bad idea |
| 04:55.12 | xeon828 | i have 0 exp with debian |
| 04:55.20 | Ticked | digitalcrypto I agree with that just one of the parts or computer life |
| 04:55.21 | xeon828 | or linux |
| 04:55.36 | digitalcrypto | xeon828: you will be level 80 soon enough |
| 04:55.43 | xeon828 | haha don't jinx it |
| 04:56.03 | digitalcrypto | The RTFM quest is one of the hardest but you get the most XP. |
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| 04:56.37 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: pastebin.com/xH5mWLwz |
| 04:57.11 | digitalcrypto | Ticked: really if you are just trying to play it safe, close all your social accounts, use duckduckgo and don't try to offend people that don't agree with you....oh and get a hardware firewall that drops source headers |
| 04:57.28 | digitalcrypto | teasing you on that last piece ;0) |
| 04:58.13 | mumpitzel | elkingrey: output of glxinfo? cause now you are running the intel driver which does 3D, compositing and all the rest |
| 04:58.22 | ctmjr | Ticked you can also read this http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 04:58.24 | Ticked | Well I am out guy digitalcrypto petn-randall thank you guys for everything |
| 04:58.24 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: If I go under Applications -> System Tools there is something called Install Debian Sid. What's that all about? |
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| 04:59.03 | digitalcrypto | Ticked: that's a good start to getting a lot done on your own |
| 04:59.05 | mumpitzel | that's debian unstable i guess. don't go there |
| 04:59.09 | Ticked | ctmjr I will thank all of you for everything and have a good night |
| 04:59.34 | digitalcrypto | Ticked: At least you are not using Winbuntu with all that spyware. |
| 04:59.40 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: glxinfo says no protocol specified Error: unable to open display. |
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| 05:00.52 | mumpitzel | elkingrey: you need to run it under X |
| 05:01.13 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: I don't know what you mean. |
| 05:01.38 | Ticked | digitalcrypto you wan to hear something you will never believe before my accident I did have a degree in computer science but a good bump to the head does a lot you know |
| 05:01.47 | mumpitzel | you need to run your GUI and execute glxinfo there. you can't do it on a text console |
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| 05:02.47 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: X is running, in fallback mode. I opened the terminal. It is, however, a root terminal, because I no longer seem to have a regular terminal. |
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| 05:03.31 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: Never mind, the regular terminal has been moved to Utilities. |
| 05:03.44 | Ticked | But agen see you guys later and thanks a lot |
| 05:03.52 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: Okay, that seems to work. One sec. |
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| 05:06.13 | digitalcrypto | who wants to go troll Winbuntu channel with me? |
| 05:06.21 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: pastebin.com/NJ1HGzYx |
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| 05:07.16 | mumpitzel | elkingrey: OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile |
| 05:07.30 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: Yeah... |
| 05:07.32 | mumpitzel | your driver is now fully functional.why you don't get gnome3 I dunno |
| 05:07.48 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: Do I need to manually tell it to load Gnome 3 or something? |
| 05:07.57 | digitalcrypto | what is the debian howto for mklivecd? |
| 05:08.07 | mumpitzel | maybe. I don't know gnome I can't say |
| 05:08.24 | digitalcrypto | nvm...it's just livecd |
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| 05:11.17 | reavengrey | hello~~ |
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| 05:13.46 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: I don't know if this means anything, but when I go to synaptic, and search gnome, I notice interesting packages like gnome and gnome-shell etc. are not installed. Does that mean anything? |
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| 05:18.12 | elkingrey | mumpitzel: BTW, you say you don't use Gnome. Why not? What do you use? |
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| 05:27.24 | digitalcrypto | what is the name of the latest kernel package for wheezy? |
| 05:27.34 | digitalcrypto | linux-image-386 no longer works |
| 05:27.50 | xeon828 | just making sure, if i have intel i7 "intel inside" sticker on my laptop, it's i386 right? |
| 05:28.02 | xeon828 | i have nvidia not amd though so that throws me off |
| 05:28.16 | xeon828 | for the debian images |
| 05:28.20 | digitalcrypto | it's i386, i486, i586, i686 and amd64 |
| 05:28.29 | xeon828 | any of those would work then? |
| 05:28.34 | digitalcrypto | pretty much |
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| 05:29.34 | digitalcrypto | apt-cache search linux-image* |grep 386 |
| 05:29.40 | digitalcrypto | soz |
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| 05:37.43 | xeon828 | i have a cd i made a long time ago, not sure if it's debian or what image it is, is there a way to know? |
| 05:38.02 | xeon828 | i'm looking at it right now it says "GRUB SGD PARA_HAC.TXT" etc |
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| 05:38.13 | xeon828 | under BOOT |
| 05:38.26 | vaetis | Evening; anyone know offhand how to determine console font and resolution? I've just got 7.2 installed, and when I end up installing my graphics drivers, the console font is larger but boxed into the screen, whereas the current default is small and uses the entire screenspace. |
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| 05:40.27 | digitalcrypto | vaetis: determine it or change it? |
| 05:41.38 | vaetis | determine, I know how to change it, but it seems all the options with the console script still use the same "boxed" format. If I can determine what it's using now, which is the way I want to keep it after installing the drivers, I can reset it later |
| 05:41.45 | vaetis | Teach a man to fish, and all that |
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| 05:42.55 | digitalcrypto | vaetis: i don't understand what you are asking for |
| 05:43.39 | vaetis | When you install debian by default, it detects the resolution of your monitor, and uses a frame-buffer of some sort in order to change the appearance of the console font |
| 05:43.48 | vaetis | And how much of the screen is used up at wha- well crap. |
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| 05:46.44 | xeon828 | i found out you can hold ctrl alt del on start up to take you to a screen where you can choose what you want to boot from |
| 05:46.49 | xeon828 | just throwing it out there |
| 05:46.59 | xeon828 | idk what that is |
| 05:47.07 | xeon828 | might be windows 7, might be hardware related |
| 05:47.14 | xeon828 | might be specific to asus |
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| 05:58.09 | xeon828 | whats the difference between installing debian at the beginnign or the end of the free space? |
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| 06:00.54 | peterrooney | xeon828: it's definitely an asus-specific thing |
| 06:01.20 | xeon828 | what? |
| 06:01.39 | xeon828 | ah |
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| 06:02.12 | xeon828 | i found out about it from frustration i accidentally deleted windows 7 and needed to install debian but i needed to config the bios or w/e |
| 06:02.29 | xeon828 | so i slammed on the keyboard for a while then tried ctrl alt delete and it brought that up |
| 06:02.33 | peterrooney | xeon828: shall I assume you mean placement of partitions? |
| 06:02.36 | xeon828 | saved me 50 usd getting a backup disc |
| 06:02.53 | xeon828 | i deleted the grub boot loader lmao |
| 06:03.01 | xeon828 | so there was no way to select the os |
| 06:05.35 | indes | yeah, you break windows mbr install and put in your boot disc, type rescue root=/dev/<whatevers> and reinstall grub. ;) |
| 06:05.39 | indes | no big deal |
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| 06:06.58 | xeon828 | lmao i had a bare minimum debian install going at the time |
| 06:07.02 | xeon828 | i tried installing it without interne |
| 06:07.36 | xeon828 | "i don't need an os, all i need is this black screen" |
| 06:08.18 | xeon828 | i had what was on the netinst cd that was it |
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| 06:15.23 | xuser | Hi, so what's the correct way to set gnome-terminal to use xterm-256color ? |
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| 06:20.18 | azizLIGHTS | how do i set xterm-256color on command line when i ssh into the box using putty |
| 06:20.40 | fys | export TERM="xterm-256color" |
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| 06:21.50 | azizLIGHTS | do i have to do this everytime? |
| 06:22.20 | fys | You can put it in your bash profile/bashrc |
| 06:25.24 | xuser | fys: I think he wants to know how to do it in putty |
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| 06:26.03 | xuser | azizLIGHTS: in the 'data panel' place xterm-256color in 'terminal type string' |
| 06:26.34 | fys | xuser: Hell if I know. |
| 06:26.36 | fys | >_> |
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| 06:27.17 | azizLIGHTS | xuser: well i was asking for just bash, but are you telling me i have to do it for putty too? |
| 06:27.53 | xuser | azizLIGHTS: you sshing you don't need to do it in bash, just putty |
| 06:27.59 | xuser | +if} |
| 06:28.29 | xuser | the terminal sets the TERM not bash |
| 06:28.42 | xuser | putty is your terminal emulator |
| 06:29.46 | xuser | export TERM="xterm-256color" is kind of a hack |
| 06:30.11 | azizLIGHTS | how can i test if its working or not |
| 06:30.30 | xuser | echo $TERM |
| 06:31.03 | azizLIGHTS | screen-256color |
| 06:31.11 | azizLIGHTS | im in tmux |
| 06:31.16 | azizLIGHTS | that is good enough right? |
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| 06:33.39 | xuser | no |
| 06:34.31 | xuser | detach tmux and echo $TERM should xterm-256color |
| 06:34.36 | xuser | +be |
| 06:35.56 | xeon827 | http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/02/17/how-to-dual-boot-debian-6-and-windows-7/4/ |
| 06:36.00 | xeon827 | on this tutorial on how to dual boot |
| 06:36.13 | xeon827 | it says it's not recommended to install it on the MBR |
| 06:36.20 | xeon827 | it'll overwrite the windows boot files |
| 06:36.24 | xeon827 | idk what the difference is |
| 06:36.39 | xeon827 | if you don't choose this open or if you do |
| 06:36.48 | xeon827 | in laymens terms what does this mean |
| 06:37.12 | xeon827 | i mean what does it mean to the lame man? |
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| 06:38.52 | azizLIGHTS | lay man |
| 06:38.57 | azizLIGHTS | heh |
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| 06:40.12 | azizLIGHTS | xuser: i got it working, thank you so much! |
| 06:40.20 | azizLIGHTS | i can see all the colors now |
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| 07:14.02 | ^aristotle | is there a way to make `dpkg -i` ask me low-priority configuration questions? |
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| 07:16.18 | ^aristotle | i.e. instead of doing `dpkg -i foo_*.deb` and then `dpkg-reconfigure foo`, I want to get asked all the questions up front |
| 07:20.42 | ^aristotle | OK, so it appears there is no way to pass an option to dpkg to change the configuration priority level |
| 07:21.24 | ^aristotle | but I can `dpkg-reconfigure debconf` to change it globally to low before the dpkg and then put it globally back afterwards |
| 07:21.53 | ^aristotle | ugly and not a real solution but sufficient for my purposes |
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| 07:37.43 | fossterer | Hi Isn't Gnome 3.8 available in jessie yet? |
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| 08:16.02 | JordanJ2 | Can debian be used for lightweight gaming, Minecraft, Steam? |
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| 08:20.20 | NiLon | as long you find proper drivers |
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| 08:27.53 | enkidu | is here anybody frob debian-x? |
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| 08:31.30 | binasco | hi all I need some help |
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| 08:32.07 | binasco | I installed Ubuntu server on virtual machine virtualbox |
| 08:32.35 | JordanJ2 | Ok |
| 08:32.38 | binasco | with 8Gb space, and now I used qparted for change to 40Gb |
| 08:32.46 | JordanJ2 | Alright |
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| 08:32.57 | binasco | but my ubuntu not undertand this |
| 08:33.17 | anonnumberanon | not understand what part? |
| 08:33.29 | binasco | my new partition size |
| 08:33.48 | anonnumberanon | what problem do you get? |
| 08:33.51 | binasco | wait i get screenshot |
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| 08:34.23 | Dudytz | hi all .. in z shell the "source" command or "." not works? what's the alternative to execute in the current context a script file? |
| 08:34.50 | binasco | My problem is I need change to 40Gb my ubuntu server on virtualbox... |
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| 08:37.29 | binasco | anonnumberanon: can you help me please? |
| 08:38.00 | anonnumberanon | how big is it now? |
| 08:38.35 | binasco | 8Gb |
| 08:38.57 | anonnumberanon | do you have important things on it right now? |
| 08:39.00 | binasco | I used Qparted Live to change for 40Gb |
| 08:39.29 | binasco | And in Virtualboc settings .vdi have 40Gb... |
| 08:39.33 | anonnumberanon | can you still boot into it now? |
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| 08:41.19 | binasco | yes |
| 08:41.42 | alfatau | hello all. is there a precompiled debian package for dlib library (http://dlib.net/) ? thank you in advance. |
| 08:42.12 | enkidu | ive modified mesa source package rules to build vdpau libraries, then installed resulting debs. Now I got mplayer playing h264 with full cpu offload. Maybe one will do it in experimental/testing/unstable? |
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| 08:42.29 | anonnumberanon | do you have disk utility installed binasco? |
| 08:42.30 | binasco | anonnumberanon: yes |
| 08:42.38 | anonnumberanon | what does it say? |
| 08:42.54 | binasco | wait |
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| 08:44.27 | binasco | 14 minutes |
| 08:44.34 | binasco | for one test |
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| 08:45.43 | anonnumberanon | You are not using an SSD drive? |
| 08:46.14 | anonnumberanon | Please take a picture of your screen and link it here. |
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| 08:51.08 | bubak | hi, i am having difficulties with recent kernels and iwlwifi driver -- i ahve searched the web for possible solutions (seems i am not alone) and in reality the only thing that worked for me was to disable 5GHz network using iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 option ; i would like to ask, if you are experiencing the same problem and if any of you solved it, ie. normal wifi-n 5GHz with this driver on linux? |
| 08:51.31 | FaTony | how can I set default resolution and refresh rate? |
| 08:51.56 | bubak | (dabian unstable, thinkpad t410s, 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (rev 35)) |
| 08:52.41 | anonnumberanon | Is the driver working at all? |
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| 09:00.58 | binasco | anonnumberanon: http://postimg.org/image/yqzc7d0a9/ |
| 09:01.40 | binasco | in vb have 39Gb alocated but in ubuntu 5.6Gb |
| 09:02.03 | binasco | i want to my ubuntu look all 40Gb |
| 09:02.20 | dsockwell | can you post the output of fdisk? |
| 09:02.25 | dsockwell | excuse me |
| 09:02.28 | dsockwell | fdisk -l |
| 09:02.30 | dsockwell | in ubuntu |
| 09:03.03 | binasco | dselect: now return blank |
| 09:03.03 | dselect | binasco: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 09:03.44 | binasco | dselect: what is RTFM? :( |
| 09:03.44 | dselect | binasco: what are you talking about? |
| 09:04.02 | dsockwell | binasco: it means Read The Fucking Manual |
| 09:04.28 | dsockwell | and you could benefit from that |
| 09:04.37 | binasco | dsockwell: I find about in manual and changed the partition on qparted live boot |
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| 09:05.06 | binasco | but my ubuntu dont changed the partition size |
| 09:05.11 | dsockwell | well hopefully you haven't done any actual coding yet |
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| 09:05.26 | anonnumberanon | binasco can you somehow make a file or get a file that is 4 GB in size onto your server?? |
| 09:05.32 | dsockwell | because you should reinstall now, you've trashed it. |
| 09:05.47 | dsockwell | this time, pay attention when you configure LVM |
| 09:06.29 | binasco | I make new partition 100Gb |
| 09:06.47 | olf-folks | i was looking at http://www.pfsense.org/index.php@option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1.html to make a fire wall appliance but it uses bsd and i am more used to debian what do you guys think i should do? |
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| 09:06.55 | dsockwell | no, no, no. get some graph paper and draw a picture of what you want. |
| 09:07.44 | binasco | I import mysql database and have error |
| 09:07.45 | digdilem | olf-folks, pfsense works okay. most of the admin is done through the web interface so what os it runs doesn't matter than much |
| 09:08.02 | dsockwell | or alternatively it's a totally valid way to learn by continuing to blunder around until you learn your lesson |
| 09:08.09 | dsockwell | virtualbox is a great platform for that |
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| 09:09.05 | olf-folks | dsockwell: but format re install is a part of the learning prossess |
| 09:09.07 | anonnumberanon | and you wonder why Spain is bankrupt |
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| 09:09.31 | binasco | dsockwell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6430849/ |
| 09:09.52 | binasco | this is my problem |
| 09:10.00 | binasco | the partition os full.. |
| 09:10.38 | binasco | anonnumberanon: :) |
| 09:11.22 | binasco | I changed the size of this partition with Qparted Live... but ubuntu don't see this |
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| 09:11.25 | olf-folks | binasco: gparted is a good tool to see/partition drives space etc |
| 09:11.53 | binasco | olf-folks: wait, I get screenshot |
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| 09:12.14 | olf-folks | binasco: okay heh |
| 09:12.19 | anonnumberanon | lol |
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| 09:15.46 | binasco | olf-folks: http://postimg.org/image/z48sbyu65/ |
| 09:15.54 | binasco | http://postimg.org/image/d4xewgeov/ |
| 09:16.09 | binasco | in Qparted partition have newsize |
| 09:16.22 | binasco | but in ubuntu not |
| 09:17.18 | binasco | dsockwell: i need make new server?! OMG |
| 09:17.45 | olf-folks | in vertual box how big did you make the partition in the vdi file? binasco |
| 09:18.27 | binasco | olf-folks: http://postimg.org/image/yqzc7d0a9/ 40gb look image :) |
| 09:19.11 | dsockwell | binasco: you'll get used to it. just keep breaking things, you'll be fine. |
| 09:19.19 | dsockwell | but, uh, do fix them after |
| 09:19.20 | olf-folks | :) |
| 09:19.34 | olf-folks | binasco: hold on im looking at them now |
| 09:19.39 | mumpitzel | binasco: please go to #ubuntu to ask about help for your linux. we do not support ubintu |
| 09:19.53 | mumpitzel | olf-folks: if you want to help binasco, please do it in #ubuntu, not here |
| 09:20.19 | olf-folks | im thinking its mounting sda1 not what your wanting to mount binasco |
| 09:20.26 | olf-folks | mumpitzel: sorry |
| 09:21.10 | binasco | mumpitzel: ok |
| 09:21.15 | binasco | thanks all for help |
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| 09:24.30 | anonnumberanon | dselect, his system isn't broken yet... |
| 09:24.45 | anonnumberanon | dsockwell, |
| 09:24.55 | olf-folks | xD |
| 09:25.19 | dsockwell | yet. |
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| 09:25.41 | dsockwell | it's well on its way |
| 09:25.41 | anonnumberanon | yet it the master password here |
| 09:25.50 | anonnumberanon | *is |
| 09:25.58 | olf-folks | he installed it in a vm then increased the vm disk size then enlarged the wrong partition |
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| 09:26.21 | dsockwell | there was certianly a teetering action |
| 09:26.31 | anonnumberanon | He doesn't answer questiong! |
| 09:26.57 | anonnumberanon | also why not get a debian server package |
| 09:26.58 | anonnumberanon | weird.. |
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| 09:28.57 | pazo | paranoia mode on: i'm using a wireless mouse, where you plug the transmitter on USB; is any of the following possible? 1) the transmitter is a keylogger, and stores keystrokes or sends them to the mouse to store them 2) the transmitter reads the ram, and stores it or sends them to the mouse to store them? |
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| 09:30.52 | anonnumberanon | pazo :1) yes 2) yes |
| 09:31.32 | pazo | anonnumberanon: is it possible to check that it is not currently the case? |
| 09:31.40 | anonnumberanon | that would actually be preposterously awesome way to pentest a system if access to the facility exists.. |
| 09:32.33 | anonnumberanon | pazo do you have reason to believe someone might have opened your mouse and flashed its microcontroller? |
| 09:32.56 | pazo | anonnumberanon: no :) |
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| 09:33.36 | anonnumberanon | well then you are safe, unless you read about exploits for that usb dongle that links the mouse to the computer. |
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| 09:33.58 | anonnumberanon | (provided you got hacked) |
| 09:34.22 | pazo | anonnumberanon: what if the logitech microcontroller is evil from the beginning? |
| 09:35.15 | olf-folks | seems ligit |
| 09:35.24 | anonnumberanon | pazo open your mouse with a screwdriver and check if there is any memory chip in there |
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| 09:36.09 | pazo | how can i recognize a memory chip? i mean it could be arbitrarily small, and even in the tiny transmitter? |
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| 09:38.08 | anonnumberanon | Well it could be ram or flash memory. Ram meaning it would only be used when the mouse is on and when turned off the data would be deleted. If there is flash then the data will stay when you turn off the mouse. |
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| 09:39.47 | anonnumberanon | lol binasco put his real name in the picture, fernando binasco |
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| 09:44.36 | binasco | anonnumberanon: yes dont have problem |
| 09:44.42 | binasco | :) |
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| 09:45.28 | olf-folks | binasco: why not use a debian server? |
| 09:45.32 | pazo | anonnumberanon: assuming that some information is stored, can i check that it is not then recorded on my hard drive and/or sent on internet? |
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| 09:46.28 | Zap-W | sera que alguem conhece um site que mostra salarios de senior linux engineer/administrator and network engineer no brasil? |
| 09:46.41 | j4jackj | Zap-W: inglez? |
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| 09:47.02 | Zap-W | j4jackj: looking for a website that shows salaries in brazil for high-tech jobs |
| 09:47.05 | binasco | Zap-W: aqui nesse canal precisa fazer as perguntas somente em ingles |
| 09:47.19 | j4jackj | Ah. |
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| 09:47.38 | j4jackj | Zap-W: you may wish to Google it... ;D |
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| 09:49.32 | binasco | olf-folks: its good for dev ambient? |
| 09:50.27 | binasco | Zap-W: Mas em relacao a salarios depende de que local do Brasil voce se encontra, sao paulo esta pagando melhor que no sul por exemplo... |
| 09:51.10 | olf-folks | binasco: what package are you using in ubuntu for it? |
| 09:51.14 | Zap-W | biberao: sao paulo e rio de janeiro? |
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| 09:51.34 | binasco | sim |
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| 09:51.50 | binasco | olf-folks: apache2 php 5.4 mysql |
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| 09:52.02 | Zap-W | biberao: quanto pagao mais o menos? moro em Israel estou pensando a voltar para o brasil, nasi no brasil |
| 09:52.40 | binasco | Zap-W: uns 6mil se voce for bom... |
| 09:52.48 | olf-folks | binasco: yeah as a matter of fact i believe there is an option for that when you first install, not to mention thoes are in the repos |
| 09:53.22 | olf-folks | binasco: sudo apt-get install apache2 php mysql |
| 09:53.40 | olf-folks | binasco: then you could import your database |
| 09:54.26 | anonnumberanon | pazo yes you would have to setup a proxy driver for your usb connection and log all the data going through it then checkking if that data has anything to do with operating system operator surveillance. |
| 09:54.31 | binasco | olf-folks: nice... |
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| 09:54.46 | Zap-W | binasco: nao e lojico, isso parese baixo de mais |
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| 09:54.56 | pazo | anonnumberanon: any link on how to setup that? :) |
| 09:55.02 | Zap-W | binasco: 6mil REAL por mes? |
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| 09:55.23 | anonnumberanon | pazo google it and tell me what you find first |
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| 09:55.53 | olf-folks | anonnumberanon: http://www.pazorestaurant.com/ |
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| 09:57.10 | binasco | Zap-W: para DBA e linux os salarios deram uma caida por aqui ... mas pode ter uma nocao melhor no www.infojobs.com.br ou www.trampos.co |
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| 09:57.36 | pazo | anonnumberanon: http://www.totalphase.com/products/beagle_usb480/ |
| 09:58.12 | binasco | Zap-W: http://trampos.co/oportunidade/108876-administrador-de-sistemas |
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| 09:59.04 | anonnumberanon | olf-folks, I'm not sure but I believe pazo is worried some impurities might land on his filet-mignions. |
| 09:59.57 | olf-folks | anonnumberanon: sh!t happens man |
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| 10:00.10 | binasco | Zap-W: mas eu nao voltaria para o Brasil, impostos abusivos, má segurança sao problemas que nao serao resolvidos tao cedo |
| 10:00.46 | anonnumberanon | $1200 |
| 10:01.06 | anonnumberanon | get a few pazo they seem small, you could lose it. |
| 10:01.15 | olf-folks | have you guys heard of usb rubber ducky? |
| 10:01.21 | anonnumberanon | yeah |
| 10:01.24 | binasco | e com o PT por aqui, a inflacao esta subindo, a coca-cola esta 6 reais |
| 10:01.45 | olf-folks | i want one |
| 10:01.58 | anonnumberanon | I wanted to get and play with one but I'm too busy with other activities right now. |
| 10:01.59 | pazo | anonnumberanon: i assume that's not what you were talking about :) |
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| 10:02.34 | ChibaPet | !es |
| 10:02.35 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 10:02.43 | anonnumberanon | lol no I'm talking about the rubber ducky concept |
| 10:02.47 | anonnumberanon | pazo |
| 10:03.27 | binasco | olf-folks: do you have debian server url? |
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| 10:04.37 | olf-folks | binasco: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+server+download |
| 10:05.09 | binasco | kkkk |
| 10:05.21 | olf-folks | :) |
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| 10:05.26 | olf-folks | goodnight all |
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| 10:05.59 | pippuccio76 | Hi i have debian with xfce , i have a problem : |
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| 10:06.57 | pippuccio76 | when i cancel a file the folder dont refresh automatically and i can see the file ,if it is deleted too. |
| 10:08.33 | Zap-W | binasco: aqui os impostos tambem sao caros, mais 6mil por mes u muito pouco, quanto o governo tira do salario ? |
| 10:08.53 | binasco | 30% |
| 10:08.54 | mumpitzel | !pt |
| 10:08.54 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
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| 10:11.12 | pazo | anonnumberanon: http://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/USB? |
| 10:11.36 | MraMaria | pippuccio76, better rephrase that or explain it |
| 10:11.48 | anonnumberanon | pazo |
| 10:11.49 | anonnumberanon | http://www.usblyzer.com/purchase.htm |
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| 10:13.02 | pazo | how can there not be free software to just capture usb communication? latest even on this event is 2011 :p |
| 10:13.25 | anonnumberanon | but yeah the link you had is most likely the best way to do it |
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| 10:13.55 | anonnumberanon | and for future questions on this topic, you should go on ##security |
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| 10:15.24 | MraMaria | pazo, Wireshark does capture USB traffic... |
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| 10:15.34 | MraMaria | http://wiki.wireshark.org/CaptureSetup/USB |
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| 10:16.25 | pazo | MraMaria: yes that's the link i posted above :p |
| 10:16.29 | pazo | thanks |
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| 10:16.47 | MraMaria | pazo, yes, I saw it afterwards :) |
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| 10:21.21 | pippuccio76 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:25.27 | MraMaria | pippuccio76, That's weird, I never saw something like that. ven when you press SHIFT + DEL to bypass the trash? |
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| 10:26.07 | MraMaria | even when you bypass the trash, I mean. Try doing that. |
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| 10:28.03 | MraMaria | pippuccio76, do some cleanup on your system, it might help. With BleachBit, for instance. |
| 10:28.23 | pippuccio76 | MraMaria is the same i try ... |
| 10:28.27 | hplc | im playing around with the app "GCipher", but it kinda limited in terms of what different kinds of ciphers are possible to use, is there any similar that allows for AES and twofish? |
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| 10:30.03 | MraMaria | pippuccio76, try ' $ sudo apt-get install bleachbit ' . After a good cleanup it might help alleviate refreshing your system. |
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| 10:32.57 | arun_ | dpkg alioth |
| 10:32.57 | dpkg | Alioth (http://alioth.debian.org/) is Debian's FusionForge server, see http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth for service and technical details. This service is currently (2013-11-11) down due to a disk crash, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2013/11/msg00001.html for more information. #alioth on irc.oftc.net. |
| 10:33.15 | arun_ | guys is it still down ?? |
| 10:33.22 | anonnumberanon | well thanks MraMaria |
| 10:33.55 | MraMaria | anonnumberanon, :) |
| 10:34.20 | MraMaria | anonnumberanon, /join #xfce |
| 10:35.32 | anonnumberanon | I have been in it for a while MraMaria . |
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| 10:36.41 | MraMaria | anonnumberanon, use bleachbit then. It lookslike you have some refreshing problem in there, probably due to lack of space or something. |
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| 10:45.14 | pazo | MraMaria: i don't understand how to setup wireshark to see the usb packets, i did sudo mobprobe usbmon |
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| 10:46.49 | anonnumberanon | MraMaria, you probably meant to talk to pippuccio76, as I do not have that problem, but I use CCleaner and I am glad to know it exists as a free softare (I have to use Windoge sometimes). This is why I was thanking you. |
| 10:48.36 | zacts | hi. my screen is flickering. |
| 10:48.47 | zacts | I've tried many tutorials and wikis |
| 10:48.50 | zacts | including debian's |
| 10:48.54 | zacts | radeon |
| 10:49.20 | zacts | only happened when I installed debian, before I had ubuntu which worked fine |
| 10:49.41 | zacts | just if anyone happens to know, otherwise no big deal |
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| 10:50.39 | MraMaria | pazo, you need to have 'usbmon' loaded. ' $sudo modprobe usbmon ' and a mount point for the debug process. Check the wiki, the info it's in there. |
| 10:51.04 | zacts | has a seizure |
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| 10:52.08 | MraMaria | anonnumberanon, I really need glasses :) |
| 10:52.12 | pazo | MraMaria: i loaded it, and "mount" shows the line: none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw) |
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| 10:53.02 | anonnumberanon | MraMaria, that was also a little mischievous on my part I must say ;) |
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| 10:55.17 | MraMaria | pazo, after loading the module you probably achieve what you want by ' su -c"modprobe usbmon" && su -c"wireshark" ' |
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| 10:56.52 | MraMaria | pazo, then select usbmon# where # is the bus number (you could check it with $ lsusb ) |
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| 10:58.00 | pazo | MraMaria: i only see usbmon when running wireshark as root |
| 10:58.55 | pazo | Bus 003 Device 002: should be usbmon3? |
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| 11:00.37 | MraMaria | pazo, usbmonX <- (when you do $ lsusb you'll get something like this "Bus 001 Device 002: ID..." Use the bus ID |
| 11:01.55 | MraMaria | pazo, yes, and try with device too, in case doesn't work. I'm not sure. usbmon003:002 |
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| 11:03.02 | pazo | ty |
| 11:03.34 | MraMaria | pazo, play with it, doesn't hurt. |
| 11:05.10 | MraMaria | pazo, I think there is some sort of limitation on the amount of packets, so don't be admired. |
| 11:06.21 | MraMaria | pazo, check this too: http://biot.com/blog/usb-sniffing-on-linux |
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| 11:11.27 | guest23452 | I do tail -f logfile, and it hangs |
| 11:12.06 | tcope | not a debian specific question but need to know what key combo is generally used to manually stop a boot sequence so you are dropped into busybox ? |
| 11:12.08 | pazo | MraMaria: thanks nice read, but what kind of limitation are you talking about? |
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| 11:12.48 | statu | Hi! Why I cannot find the linux-headers-3.10.0-6-generic package? It doesn't exists in the repository :S |
| 11:13.57 | arun_ | guys , has Alioth been repaired or under work?> |
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| 11:14.52 | MraMaria | pazo, I think it's referred on USB capture of Wireshark wiki, search "limitation" in there |
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| 11:15.35 | pazo | MraMaria: "there is a binary protocol for tracing USB packets which doesn't have that size limitation" |
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| 11:16.27 | MraMaria | yes, something like that. You probably don't have that problem if your kernel is up-to-dated |
| 11:17.29 | MraMaria | arun_, not available yet |
| 11:17.52 | arun_ | MraMaria: oh, when may it get run ?? |
| 11:18.19 | arun_ | I wanted to add a new locale (language)in debian |
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| 11:19.46 | pazo | ok thanks for the help |
| 11:19.55 | mumpitzel | statu: cause debian is not ubuntu. we cannot help you here, please ask ubuntu |
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| 11:20.16 | mumpitzel | arun_: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 11:20.42 | statu | mumpitzel, ok, I thought that this package was a debian package, i'm sorry |
| 11:20.53 | arun_ | mumpitzel: I wanted to add it in the system ; whole in system language choosing area |
| 11:20.57 | mumpitzel | statu: we do not support your distro, even if it has some debian packages |
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| 11:21.19 | statu | mumpitzel, no, I am using DEbian Wheezy |
| 11:21.28 | MraMaria | !Alioth |
| 11:21.28 | dpkg | Alioth (http://alioth.debian.org/) is Debian's FusionForge server, see http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth for service and technical details. This service is currently (2013-11-11) down due to a disk crash, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2013/11/msg00001.html for more information. #alioth on irc.oftc.net. |
| 11:21.28 | statu | but virtual box is asking me for this package |
| 11:22.32 | mumpitzel | arun_: /usr/share/i18n/locales/ for a start |
| 11:22.45 | mumpitzel | statu: no you are not. not with a "generic" kernel |
| 11:23.03 | mumpitzel | statu: what command did you run for it to ask you about it? |
| 11:23.09 | statu | uname -r |
| 11:23.24 | mumpitzel | statu: then you don't run debian. what is the output of uname -a? |
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| 11:24.07 | statu | mumpitzel, Linux statu-laptop 3.10.0-6-generic #17-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jul 26 18:29:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 11:24.07 | mumpitzel | statu: from the looks of it you run ubuntu saucy |
| 11:24.15 | statu | mumpitzel, you are right :S |
| 11:24.22 | mumpitzel | statu: you do not run debian, you run ubuntu. please ask in #ubuntu for help |
| 11:24.59 | statu | mumpitzel, but how is that possible? I installed debian wheezy!! |
| 11:25.11 | statu | mumpitzel, I am very confused now |
| 11:25.17 | mumpitzel | statu: pastebin the output of "mount" |
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| 11:25.41 | mumpitzel | or the output of dpkg -l libc6 |tail -1 |
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| 11:26.22 | guest23452 | my samba fail to show videos over the network after 15 minutes or so |
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| 11:27.06 | statu | mumpitzel, http://pastebin.com/K2LxVS7S http://pastebin.com/fvQaFAwd |
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| 11:28.20 | mumpitzel | statu: your kernel is a ubuntu kernel, your libc6 a debian libc |
| 11:28.33 | mumpitzel | statu: use a backports kernel |
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| 11:29.14 | mumpitzel | backports has a 3.10 kernel for you and it also has linux header files. you will need to install the linux kernek, linux headers and initramfs-tools from backports |
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| 11:29.50 | mumpitzel | !tell statu about backports. afterwards: uninstall this ubuntu kernel. in fact, uninstall it right now and reboot. then install the backports kernel (they might collide since they're both the same 3.10 kernel version) |
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| 11:30.49 | statu | mumpitzel, ok, thank you very much for your help. I am very confused about how I arrived to this situation :S I will follow your instructions. Thank again! |
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| 11:34.45 | fcp2 | Hello, |
| 11:34.50 | fcp2 | good day for all |
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| 11:35.17 | fcp2 | anyone have displaylink working on debian7? |
| 11:37.01 | mumpitzel | fcp2: what displaylink device do you have? |
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| 11:37.41 | fcp2 | hia mumpitzel |
| 11:37.49 | fcp2 | i found info in dmesg |
| 11:37.50 | fcp2 | udlfb: DisplayLink FY USB-VGA - serial #USB_FY5831 |
| 11:38.21 | fcp2 | i try to use it but only appears gree |
| 11:38.25 | fcp2 | green |
| 11:38.27 | mumpitzel | that's great but doesn't tell me which model of the hardware you have |
| 11:38.32 | fcp2 | yap |
| 11:38.35 | bandwith | green indicates an HDCP handshake error |
| 11:38.45 | bandwith | verify the display is HDCP compliant |
| 11:39.15 | bandwith | shrugs |
| 11:39.54 | fcp2 | only have in the device "model no: fy1650 |
| 11:40.12 | fcp2 | http://www.amazon.co.uk/FY1650-Video-Adapter-Graphics-Display/dp/B00AYTZSE0 |
| 11:40.15 | fcp2 | is that one |
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| 11:42.50 | fcp2 | dono if i gona mess something in my debian wheezy with that install steps http://mulchman.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/displaylink-on-linux/ |
| 11:42.51 | Snader_LB | hi all |
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| 11:44.32 | mumpitzel | fcp2: looks ok from what I can see. after you remove the custom xorg.conf again you should be back where you are now |
| 11:44.58 | mumpitzel | you aren't messing with debian, just addint some binaries and editing config files |
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| 11:45.19 | mumpitzel | fcp2: but the howto is too old to be actually usable |
| 11:45.47 | fcp2 | yap |
| 11:46.07 | fcp2 | on debian7 the xorg.conf is used in other way i think |
| 11:46.11 | mumpitzel | fcp2: foolow the suggestion bandwith made |
| 11:46.51 | bandwith | that was my gut reaction without seeing it was a VGA device |
| 11:47.47 | fcp2 | dono how to check :S |
| 11:47.49 | fcp2 | sorry |
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| 11:48.55 | bandwith | swap equipment, read specifications, test with other hardware... |
| 11:49.04 | bandwith | ya' know... the ususal |
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| 11:49.26 | fcp2 | ok my steps i made |
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| 11:49.31 | bandwith | cries.. the VM request from last week isn't done yet |
| 11:49.33 | fcp2 | i check dmesg |
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| 11:49.44 | fcp2 | they appears on it |
| 11:49.55 | fcp2 | lspci -v |
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| 11:50.05 | fcp2 | don't show |
| 11:50.16 | fcp2 | only appears the vga and others |
| 11:51.04 | mumpitzel | it's a usb device. it won't show on the pci bus but you can see it with "lsusb" |
| 11:51.10 | fcp2 | yap |
| 11:51.35 | fcp2 | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 17e9:019e DisplayLink |
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| 11:52.39 | bandwith | fcp2: this seems more relevant.. http://documentation.red-e.eu/salor-admin/displaylink.html |
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| 11:56.38 | fcp2 | bandwith i can create that displaylink.conf on xorg.conf.d directory? |
| 11:57.15 | fcp2 | ho i see the on bottom of page |
| 11:57.16 | fcp2 | sorry |
| 11:57.45 | bandwith | I don't have any experience using displaylink on Linux.. only Win7+ or OS 10.7+ |
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| 11:58.07 | bandwith | nor do I have a test machine or VGA hardware to play with today |
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| 11:58.37 | bandwith | DisplayLink devices on Linux still only have experimental support. While some people have had success in using them, it is generally not an easy process and not guaranteed to work. |
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| 12:01.37 | fcp2 | you have used an alternative device to 3 monitor? |
| 12:02.06 | bandwith | fcp2: look at some of the Matrox products |
| 12:02.43 | bandwith | they sell DisplayPort to 2 or 3 monitor boxes |
| 12:02.51 | mumpitzel | any ivy bridge cpu can use 3 monitors and so can current videocards from amd and nvida |
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| 12:03.08 | fcp2 | ah but only for desktops? |
| 12:03.08 | mumpitzel | trickier if it's a laptop of course |
| 12:03.15 | fcp2 | i'm searching for laptop |
| 12:03.47 | mumpitzel | what video outputs does your laptop have? |
| 12:03.58 | fcp2 | hdmi |
| 12:04.12 | fcp2 | ah |
| 12:04.17 | fcp2 | intel |
| 12:04.18 | fcp2 | :S |
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| 12:05.46 | fcp2 | I gona forget that :S |
| 12:05.54 | fcp2 | and use 2 monitors |
| 12:05.56 | fcp2 | bah |
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| 12:42.07 | abailarri | Hello. Th sound of my browsers not work!! Not work with iceweasel,firefox o chrome! I don't know what tot do. Any suggestion please? |
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| 12:46.30 | bruce | need help. how many GB i need for my / partition |
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| 12:47.57 | dark_node | bruce: 10-30 usually does well. |
| 12:48.01 | tremon | bruce: depends on your partition layout and intended purpose. I usually reserve 12G for /, /usr and /var. I keep /home and /tmp are separate |
| 12:49.11 | dark_node | If you want simpler, then just do a 15 or 20 gb /, a small swap, and a home using the rest of your space. If you use an hdd you might want to consider a /boot as well which woul dbe 512mb |
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| 12:50.06 | bruce | i have a 1TB HDD for my desktop. i think to give 200GB for / , 100GB /home and 500MB /boot |
| 12:50.19 | dark_node | That is way to big for /. |
| 12:51.08 | dark_node | No / holds your binaries and stuff, it does not need much space. On crunchbang I use about 12gb, for debian I usually use 15-20. |
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| 12:51.43 | shingouz | this eeepc i am running the irc client on has 2.5G for / and the rest as /home. can be done but not a lot of space to fool around with |
| 12:51.43 | bruce | yup.. i think so. but before i have in ubuntu 100GB is not enough to me. |
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| 12:52.03 | dark_node | I do not see how...honestly. |
| 12:52.39 | dark_node | Is this for personal use? |
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| 12:53.20 | frostschutz | in ubuntu it's easy to run out of inodes if you use ext* and never uninstall/purge old kernel headers |
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| 12:53.32 | dark_node | Oh. |
| 12:53.54 | bruce | ic |
| 12:54.02 | frostschutz | so you have 80% free space but can't use it as mkfs.ext* created a file system with way too few inodes available and the kernel headers occupy them all |
| 12:54.21 | dark_node | Gotcha, I have never used ubuntu, did not realize that. |
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| 12:55.09 | bruce | thank man. now i know what the size i really need |
| 12:55.44 | GentileBen | That's what she said, bruce. |
| 12:55.55 | dark_node | =) |
| 12:56.52 | bruce | and how about debian. can itself uninstall automatically |
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| 13:04.20 | bruce | dark_node : how many GB that your /home and /tmp |
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| 13:07.26 | dark_node | I have a 120gb ssd so I do 15 to /, and the rest to home. No swap and no /boot. |
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| 13:07.53 | dark_node | No /tmp or any other small partitions either. |
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| 13:10.46 | bruce | a very simple partiton :) |
| 13:11.11 | dark_node | Yep, on this machine. |
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| 13:13.34 | dark_node | SSD so no need for /boot, 16gb of mem and I do not hibernate/sleep so no swap, and to be honest at the time I partitioned this machine I di not really know about /tmp and the others a lot of people do. |
| 13:13.47 | dark_node | did* |
| 13:14.44 | tremon | why does a hdd require /boot but an ssd does not? |
| 13:14.59 | dark_node | Well, I only used /boot to boot faster. |
| 13:15.16 | dark_node | SSD is already fast, even more so when using the distro I use which is crunchbang. |
| 13:15.52 | dark_node | HDD does not require it, just speeds up the boot proc a little. |
| 13:17.30 | tremon | it only speeds up the loading of grub's menu. Never have had a system where grub took most of the boot time |
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| 13:17.57 | dark_node | Oh well maybe I was misinformed, my appologies. |
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| 13:18.03 | deed02392 | any free dynamic dns providers that support updating from a debian package? |
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| 13:20.20 | tremon | dark_node: there are good reasons for separate /boot, but speed is usually not one of them. You might do it because / is on a composite device (lvm, md, crypto, etc) that grub can't read or because your bios is ancient and can't read large partitions |
| 13:20.42 | dark_node | Thanks for correcting my thinking. |
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| 13:38.05 | bejker | hi |
| 13:38.38 | bejker | any idea why when i use X server to copy files frome HHD to pendrive i have max transfer 1MB/s, but when i use MC to copy files i have 5MB/s |
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| 13:41.56 | Pinchiukas | Is there a way to install stuff user-local? To not impact the whole system, just one user. |
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| 13:42.46 | bejker | Pinchiukas: yes, but what stuff you want to install? |
| 13:42.56 | Pinchiukas | Does it matter? :) |
| 13:42.59 | tremon | yes, every user can put things in ~/bin, ~/lib and ~/share and include them in their PATHs |
| 13:43.02 | Pinchiukas | Non-system stuff. |
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| 13:43.25 | Pinchiukas | I want to install ruby and a few gems. |
| 13:43.34 | bejker | Pinchiukas: beciuse if u use package u need root for that, |
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| 13:43.46 | Pinchiukas | Ah, so no .deb installations? |
| 13:44.00 | bejker | yes no .deb package |
| 13:44.09 | bejker | instal frome sources |
| 13:44.10 | Pinchiukas | Bah, that sucks. |
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| 13:44.35 | bejker | is realy hard to do ./configure ? |
| 13:44.49 | tremon | you can extract the contents of a .deb in a subdirectory of your home directory, but there is no per-user package management |
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| 13:46.08 | cjbirk | oi |
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| 13:46.58 | cjbirk | how do i get my console to display some ascii art when I open a new terminal? |
| 13:47.21 | bejker | cat file? |
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| 13:47.26 | mrdeb | thin it depends on terminal |
| 13:47.34 | cjbirk | gterm |
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| 13:47.48 | cjbirk | whatever default terminal is for debian |
| 13:47.51 | cjbirk | gnome debian |
| 13:47.54 | Gargantua | hey, my "Fn" key on my laptop is broken (actually, the whole keyboard, I have an external one) how can I change the screen contrast without it? |
| 13:47.59 | tremon | cjbirk: is the console where you want it displayed the same as the terminal you've just opened? |
| 13:48.06 | bejker | cjbirk: use "cat /home/user/file_name" |
| 13:48.16 | cjbirk | ok |
| 13:48.26 | cjbirk | I'm coming from arch where you just add it to .Xdefaults |
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| 13:48.51 | bejker | Gargantua: use settings->screen |
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| 13:49.28 | Gargantua | whats the command for that, i dont use xfce4/gnome |
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| 13:49.48 | Gargantua | xfce4-setting-manager? |
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| 13:50.41 | cjbirk | bejker: where do i add the cat to? |
| 13:50.47 | tremon | .Xdefaults has been deprecated for some time, and is ignored in debian, use .Xresources |
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| 13:53.09 | Pinchiukas | bejker: what if I don't have all the compile toolset installed? |
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| 13:53.52 | cjbirk | huh |
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| 13:55.58 | bejker | cjbirk: where u have that ascii art? |
| 13:56.18 | bejker | Pinchiukas: u cant compile |
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| 13:57.24 | cjbirk | bejker: here's the link im referencing, just search "invader" on the page: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/x_resources |
| 13:57.37 | cjbirk | bejker: I want that to display every time i open a new terminal :) |
| 13:57.59 | bejker | cjbirk: so u need to download,copy that art to some text editor and save |
| 13:58.13 | cjbirk | its not art its a bash script |
| 13:58.19 | cjbirk | look @ it |
| 13:58.32 | cjbirk | i think i need to add it to .bashrc ? |
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| 13:59.33 | bejker | thise script #1 and 2? |
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| 14:01.44 | bejker | cjbirk: copy that script to vi/pico/nano |
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| 14:02.02 | bejker | type save and chmod +x that file |
| 14:02.12 | bejker | then u can use sh or ./ |
| 14:02.36 | cjbirk | ok |
| 14:02.52 | cjbirk | its script 5 |
| 14:03.19 | cjbirk | bum.sh: 12: bum.sh: Bad substitution |
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| 14:07.09 | bejker | http://pastebin.com/s9J5Ja4w |
| 14:07.18 | bejker | is working on my PC |
| 14:07.22 | cjbirk | bejker: i got it, i just had to add it to .bashrc |
| 14:07.31 | cjbirk | :) |
| 14:07.35 | cjbirk | thanks my friend |
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| 14:07.44 | bejker | i dont add nothing to bash and is working on my as u see :) |
| 14:07.49 | bejker | yw |
| 14:07.52 | cjbirk | ohhh |
| 14:07.59 | cjbirk | i was running sh bum.sh |
| 14:08.00 | cjbirk | LOL |
| 14:08.10 | cjbirk | not ./ |
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| 14:08.53 | bejker | hhee :) |
| 14:08.58 | bejker | allways use ./ |
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| 14:12.22 | bejker | cjbirk: if u want to run with sh u need to add to .bashrc |
| 14:12.35 | bejker | but if u dont want just type ./ |
| 14:12.37 | bejker | ;] |
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| 14:18.10 | cjbirk | bejker: do you know where I can get some better window decorations for gnome? |
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| 14:19.53 | isset__ | there is a race condition in the current zmq package (7.2 and probably below). Is there any chance that the package will be updated any time soon? |
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| 14:25.00 | bejker | cjbirk: i use kde sorry |
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| 14:30.33 | neo1691 | Hey guys i am facing serious problem. I had suspended debian, and now when I start my laptop the led just keeps blinking and nothing happens, I mean there is no display nothing. It seems that only the led is blinking and fan is working, nothing else. Also if I long press the power button and force shut down the laptop, it starts itseld |
| 14:30.54 | neo1691 | *itself automatically unless I unplug the charger |
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| 14:36.58 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 14:37.33 | ShapeShifter499 | how do I roll back a package I upgraded to backports |
| 14:37.35 | ShapeShifter499 | ? |
| 14:37.52 | jelly-home | ShapeShifter499: aptitude install foo=version |
| 14:38.25 | hplc | "sudo"? |
| 14:38.35 | jelly-home | if any dependencies got upgraded together with the backport installation, you'd have to deal with those as well |
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| 14:40.11 | jelly-home | neo1691: sometimes, suspend (to ram) does not work for any number of reasons, but hibernation does |
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| 14:41.05 | neo1691 | jelly-home: any way to get the laptop in working condition back? |
| 14:41.31 | jelly-home | neo1691: dunno... unplug the battery and charger, see if that resets things? |
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| 14:44.56 | ShapeShifter499 | hmm |
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| 14:45.50 | ShapeShifter499 | jelly-home, is there a "light switch click" sound for usb devices when they are connected and/or removed? |
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| 14:47.07 | jelly-home | ShapeShifter499: not that I know of |
| 14:47.28 | ShapeShifter499 | jelly-home, I'm hearing this in gnome 3 when I plug in and unplug my external drive |
| 14:47.42 | bejker | neo1691: uncover back off laptop, unplug charger, remove battery, on mother board u have second battery for bios unplug and wait 1min |
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| 14:47.51 | jelly-home | ShapeShifter499: I do not use Gnome. |
| 14:48.00 | bejker | then connect everything right now u have reset bios to default |
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| 15:10.08 | neo1691 | Where exactly is the bios reset button located? |
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| 15:10.46 | bandwith | neo1691: it depends... |
| 15:10.52 | bandwith | what make/model/etc.. |
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| 15:11.10 | neo1691 | bandwith: asus k53sm |
| 15:11.11 | bandwith | consult the manual |
| 15:12.03 | bandwith | there's a hole on the bottom for reset |
| 15:12.05 | neo1691 | I am wondering if that will boot my laptop. The screen is just blank, I am not even getting the asus welcome screen |
| 15:12.37 | neo1691 | Without removing the back cover can I access that hole |
| 15:13.53 | neo1691 | Not able to see any hole here. I'll have to open it |
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| 15:14.04 | bandwith | 1: Unable to power on the notebook. |
| 15:14.04 | bandwith | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.04 | bandwith | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.06 | bandwith | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:14.07 | gremble | With the risk of becoming severely hated, that is what she said |
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| 15:15.02 | bandwith | woops |
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| 15:17.08 | bandwith | neo1691: did that help? |
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| 15:18.08 | JZTech101 | how to get gcc on Debian? |
| 15:18.14 | JZTech101 | apt-get install gcc doesn't work |
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| 15:18.29 | dvs | JZTech101: apt-get install build-essential |
| 15:18.42 | JZTech101 | thanks |
| 15:18.43 | tremon | !doesn't work |
| 15:18.43 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
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| 15:19.05 | dvs | ,v gcc-4.4 |
| 15:19.07 | judd | Package: gcc-4.4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.4.5-8; wheezy: 4.4.7-2; jessie: 4.4.7-3; sid: 4.4.7-4 |
| 15:19.21 | JZTech101 | E: Unable to locate package build-essential |
| 15:19.33 | dvs | ,v build-essential |
| 15:19.34 | judd | Package: build-essential on i386 -- squeeze: 11.5; wheezy: 11.5; jessie: 11.6; sid: 11.6 |
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| 15:19.54 | tremon | JZTech101: your sources.list is empty or faulty |
| 15:20.00 | JZTech101 | ok - how to fix it? |
| 15:20.14 | dvs | !tell JZTech101 about wheezy sources.list |
| 15:20.23 | JZTech101 | nvm |
| 15:20.23 | tremon | you can either paste the current contents, or replace it with what dpkg just told you |
| 15:20.33 | JZTech101 | I just needed to run apt-get update |
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| 15:21.21 | JZTech101 | Also.. how to install GnuTLS? |
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| 15:22.18 | bandwith | JZTech101: apt-cache search gnutls |
| 15:22.29 | JZTech101 | ok |
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| 15:29.08 | apollo13 | hmm, is lists.alioth.debian.org down? |
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| 15:34.55 | cvillelk | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/lists.alioth.debian.org |
| 15:35.41 | apollo13 | ok, I should rather have asked: is it going away and replaced by something or just down^^ |
| 15:36.02 | tremon | !alioth |
| 15:36.03 | dpkg | Alioth (http://alioth.debian.org/) is Debian's FusionForge server, see http://wiki.debian.org/Alioth for service and technical details. This service is currently (2013-11-11) down due to a disk crash, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2013/11/msg00001.html for more information. #alioth on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 15:36.26 | apollo13 | ah :) |
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| 15:48.58 | jmd | I've managed to mess up my fonts. Is there an easy way to fix it? |
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| 15:54.15 | joj | jmd: what did you mess up? |
| 15:54.46 | jmd | joj, To debug something I purged all fonts except gsfont. |
| 15:55.03 | jmd | I thought that apt-get -f install would fix it. But it seems not. |
| 15:55.46 | jmd | For example, Japanese fonts no longer display in Gnome. |
| 15:56.02 | jmd | dpkg-reconfig fontconfig doesn't help either. |
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| 15:57.36 | joj | jmd: I don't know about some special essential fonts. Try installing the very complete DejaVu fonts 'apt-get install fonts-dejavu' and setting the GNOME UI font to DejaVu Sans. |
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| 15:58.25 | joj | jmd: If anything, you just have to install fonts again which have all the characters (CJK, Latin, ...) you need to display |
| 15:58.39 | tremon | jmd: parse /var/log/dpkg.log or /var/log/apt/history.log to find out what you removed and reinstall it |
| 15:59.16 | jmd | E: Unable to locate package fonts-dejavu |
| 16:00.05 | joj | jmd: Sorry, the package seems to exist only in unstable ... try ttf-dejavu? |
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| 16:02.12 | joj | jmd: and from there, try following tremon 's advice, look for the packages you removed/purged in the files he specified, install all of them again and you should be set |
| 16:03.05 | jmd | ok. I'll try that approach. Thanks. |
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| 16:06.46 | no_gravity | Hello! One of my servers fucked while apt-get distupgrade because / is full. Whats a good place to look for unused stuff to delete? |
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| 16:07.02 | spal | Is there a way to create a folder that any files created within the folder would be owned by user foo even if the files are created by user root? |
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| 16:07.36 | spal | In other words, whenever user root creates a file, it's owner would become user foo automatically. |
| 16:08.49 | no_gravity | spal: i never heard of such a thing. why do you want to do that? |
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| 16:09.13 | tremon | no_gravity: /tmp, /var/tmp and /var/cache. But don't clear out /var/cache/apt otherwise apt will need to redownload the packages |
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| 16:10.07 | tremon | spal: iirc, no. you can use setuid on a folder, but that would only affect every user other than root |
| 16:11.15 | no_gravity | tremon: thanks. i found some gig to delete. now i just run apt-get dist-upgrade again? |
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| 16:11.42 | tremon | you probably need apt-get install -f first, but yes |
| 16:12.38 | no_gravity | tremon: ok. apt-get install -f is running a shitload of stuff.. hope all goes well... |
| 16:14.39 | no_gravity | tremon: now both, apt-get dist-upgrade and apt-get install -f, always return an error. am i fucked? |
| 16:15.12 | tremon | no_gravity: paste the complete output in a pastebin |
| 16:15.34 | no_gravity | tremon: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server-5.5 |
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| 16:16.54 | tremon | that's not a complete output |
| 16:16.56 | no_gravity | trying "apt-get dist-upgrade -f" ... fingers crossed. |
| 16:17.40 | no_gravity | i give the box a 25% chance of surviving this... |
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| 16:18.38 | tremon | that's a very negative estimation of either your skills or your time |
| 16:18.55 | no_gravity | didnt work |
| 16:19.15 | tremon | if it's that easy to just discard the box and start over, you may just want to do that |
| 16:19.44 | no_gravity | mysql-server-5.5 depends on mysql-server-core-5.5 however: Version of mysql-server-core-5.5 on system is 5.5.34 |
| 16:19.55 | no_gravity | i dont know how to get around that ^ |
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| 16:22.51 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | test |
| 16:23.00 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | so, i've been thinking about the gay marriage issue |
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| 16:23.29 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | now, i've got a lot to say about this, most importantly, if we're going to prop up same sex buttsex, then dont we have to prop up all fetishes? |
| 16:23.54 | xand | troll elsewhere |
| 16:24.13 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | barack obama made one of those cheesy "it gets better" videos for all the poor gay kids out there, but what about all the kids who want to dress up like babies and piss themselves, or the kids who want to fuck their dogs, or the kids who want to be tied up and beaten up a bit? |
| 16:24.20 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | i'm not trolling, i'm asking serious questions. |
| 16:24.38 | tremon | !ops fe3Fxrf34Fj |
| 16:24.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: tremon complains about: fe3Fxrf34Fj |
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| 16:24.43 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | let's talk about bestiality specifically. Every time you compare gay sex to bestiality, all the so-called gays get upset |
| 16:24.51 | tockitj | is there a way to see list of 'manually' installed packages ? |
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| 16:25.10 | tockitj | those that are installed by apt-get command (and not drawn in as a dependency) |
| 16:25.21 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | i'm of the opinoin that saying you're "gay" is a political statement, just like calling yourself liberal or conservative |
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| 16:25.28 | tremon | tockitj: aptitude search '~i!~M' |
| 16:25.55 | tockitj | tremon, thanks |
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| 16:25.59 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | sex is like a giant smorgusbord, a buffet if you will of options |
| 16:26.05 | tremon | see http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html for more info |
| 16:26.23 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | once we let sex options that are outside the norm take place, then we have to consider them all |
| 16:26.24 | no_gravity | what would this command do? dpkg -r mysql-server-5.5 |
| 16:26.35 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | now i submit to you that bestiality and homophilia are equivalent |
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| 16:27.02 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | the only legitimate argument against homophilia is that "it's gross", and so, the only argument against bestiality that actually works is that "it's gross" |
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| 16:27.23 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | so i challenge... no, I defy anyone to tell me why bestiality is not acceptable. |
| 16:28.03 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | Now I know I told you that I want to talk about all fetishes, but let's do bestiality first. |
| 16:28.25 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | At the end of this, you'll understand why gay marriage means there should be equality for bestiality and group marriage as well |
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| 16:30.39 | forcer | Great, I was just typing a response to no_gravity. :-/ |
| 16:30.52 | forcer | Oh well. |
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| 16:31.51 | lord_rob | fe3Fxrf34Fj: what's the relation between gay marriage and debian ? |
| 16:32.00 | j7j3 | ubuntu? |
| 16:32.15 | tremon | lord_rob: stop feeding |
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| 16:32.39 | lord_rob | yeah right |
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| 16:33.52 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | debian is supposed to be an operating system of utmost use to scientific researchers, like myself |
| 16:34.08 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | now, when you question gays, they say "but look at all the studies, it's science, you should like it" |
| 16:34.22 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | therefore, debian = science = gay = bestiality |
| 16:34.29 | fe3Fxrf34Fj | i can totally defend all of this |
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| 16:35.08 | sjamaan | I'm running into this same problem with Wheezy: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1302.2/03578.html |
| 16:35.26 | sjamaan | Is this a known problem? |
| 16:35.58 | sjamaan | I'm having a hard time finding anything about this in the bug database |
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| 16:38.05 | tremon | sjamaan: since the problem is not confined to debian, you may have better luck on ##linux. If you are not running lenovo firmware on that ssd, you might want to raise it bugzilla.kernel.org but you're better off just rma'ing the disk |
| 16:38.28 | sjamaan | Thanks |
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| 16:38.44 | sjamaan | I just found Debian issue #691427, which seems the same thing I'm seeing |
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| 16:41.31 | sjamaan | tremon: What do you mean by "rma'ing the disk"? |
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| 16:42.00 | bandwith | sjamaan: obtain warranty support for the hardware |
| 16:42.10 | bandwith | return material authorization |
| 16:42.56 | tremon | return the disk to manufacturer, since it's obviously faulty |
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| 17:18.39 | Ast001 | Hello, on my Debian Wheezy amd64 system I have problem during playing game. After 10-20 seconds everything freeze and I can just turn off computer on button (reset doesn't work too). I use integrated intel HD4000 graphic (hdmi). Is it known issue ? Can I resolve it by changing kernel to one from backports ? |
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| 17:20.40 | waynr | Ast001: that could be any number of things; window manager, the game itself, or yeah--maybe a kernel or driver issue |
| 17:20.57 | Ast001 | 'considering the 3.2 kernels are older than the Intel HD 4000 anyway' |
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| 17:21.25 | ChrisH | Ast001: can you rule out any HW issue incl. Memory and Cooling? |
| 17:21.25 | hurdorbsd | use updated Kernel |
| 17:21.27 | waynr | Ast001: have you tried switching to a different virtual terminal when everything freezes up? |
| 17:21.56 | Ast001 | I didn't waynr because my keyboard stop working too I can't type anything so I guess I can't switch too. |
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| 17:22.27 | waynr | Ast001: it could just be X-related keyboard input that isn't working, i'd try switching VTs just to see if it works |
| 17:22.55 | Ast001 | it's total freeze can't move mouse pointer can't type can't even reset. How can I swtch VT ? |
| 17:23.09 | waynr | ctrl + alt + F1 |
| 17:23.40 | ompaul | Ast001: can you log in remotely? |
| 17:23.54 | waynr | ah, i guess if you can't hardware reset then maybe the vt switch wouldn't work either |
| 17:24.11 | Ast001 | ok I will try in a minute. ompaul I don't know I didn't try but I could. |
| 17:24.31 | ompaul | so if you can you can see what ran out of control |
| 17:24.43 | Ast001 | I will try both things and return here. |
| 17:24.54 | Ast001 | thanks for help. |
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| 17:25.02 | waynr | goodluck! |
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| 17:33.26 | nicolas-14355 | hi everybody |
| 17:33.50 | doubt | Hi |
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| 17:35.16 | nicolas-14355 | I' looking for some help: I want to help devs to support my new laptop hotkeys, do you know guys what forum do I have to enter ? |
| 17:35.27 | MrMonkey31 | hellooo |
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| 17:35.59 | nicolas-14355 | gnome ? debian ? acpi-support forums ? |
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| 17:36.13 | lnxusr_ | how would I know what version I am on? stable testing sid? |
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| 17:36.24 | lazers | lnxusr_: lsb_release -cs |
| 17:36.32 | mumpitzel | !version |
| 17:36.32 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r, or cat /proc/version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_ , or run apt-cache policy <packagename>. Miscellaneous commands: try --version on the command. For the version of Debian, ask me about <debian suite>. |
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| 17:36.50 | lnxusr_ | thanks |
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| 17:39.07 | honestly | does "init 0" really halt or does it power off? |
| 17:39.12 | newbie_ | dark_node: you there? |
| 17:39.13 | Ast001 | I can't ctrl+alt+f1 during the freeze. I can't even reset. |
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| 17:40.31 | MraMaria | Ast001, You might find the cause of it by looking at /var/log/syslog , /var/log/dmesg and in other /var/log/ files. (Have in mind if you have 'logrotate' installed you might get some results also in /var/logs/*log*1 *2.gz etc). Also, /home/you/.xsession-errors . Not really for this particular situation but ... if you experience this sort of freezes often you might create a keyboard shortcut to 'xkill'. I have, for instance, <Primary>Down (which is |
| 17:40.31 | MraMaria | CTRL+DownArrow) when is too cold here and things start freezing :) |
| 17:40.42 | MraMaria | wow... my testament |
| 17:41.46 | Ast001 | No shortcut can help me because keyboard completely stops. I am trying to find cause in /var/log/syslog |
| 17:41.53 | MraMaria | by the way, if it is really a kernel issue chances are you probably don't get any error in the logs |
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| 17:42.43 | Ast001 | I think I will try kernel from backports and check.. If I find out something in logs I will inform you. |
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| 17:43.01 | MraMaria | Ast001, ohh Ast001 'Magic SysRq key' probably could help too. |
| 17:44.11 | MraMaria | !magic sysrq |
| 17:44.11 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sysrq is Alt-PrintScreen-[Key]. For a clean reboot with a semi-locked machine, try [Key] with s-u-b, s for sync, u for remount readonly and b for reBoot. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key and http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt . See also <sysrqd>. |
| 17:45.50 | Ast001 | ok thanks |
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| 17:47.16 | MrMonkey31 | ok... kernel modules: do these come as a package for the most part, or as...? |
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| 17:50.06 | MrMonkey31 | I better specify that I am a newbie. suppose I knew of a module x I wanted on my system. is it right that a. modules are distro-independent; b. they're sometimes packaged with the kernel they were compiled for; and c. they are easy to set up without having some 'dood' giftwrap them for the end user, me? |
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| 17:51.08 | MraMaria | !tell MrMonkey31 about modules |
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| 17:52.07 | MraMaria | !modules |
| 17:52.08 | dpkg | methinks module is a driver for a device (a part of a kernel) which can be dynamically loaded/unloaded. Ask me about <modprobe>. To compile modules available in Debian module source packages, ask me about <dkms>, <module-assistant>. http://wiki.debian.org/Modules |
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| 17:53.17 | ChrisH | I managed to install Debian stable in dual-boot on an Acer Aspire parallel to Windows 8. I switched off secure boot to get it working. Sadly I need to press F12 to select Debian boot, then I get grub and can boot Win8 or Debian from grub. Where do I need to install grub to get grub as primary boot manager? Or is that something I need to changed inside BIOS? |
| 17:53.18 | MrMonkey31 | mramaria: right, see those right there are a ton of words I wouldn't attach to coherent meanings. it helps but I'm still in the dark about where would I go for a ready to use module, or if such a place does not exist per se |
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| 17:53.55 | MraMaria | MrMonkey31, http://wiki.debian.org/Modules is a good place to start :) |
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| 17:55.27 | MrMonkey31 | yeah start... right, need to start... :-{ well I've gotten that kernels ARE distro dependent, and therefore so are modules. does that sound kosher? |
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| 17:56.10 | MrMonkey31 | *correct entirely |
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| 17:57.39 | MrMonkey31 | takes a bite out of the manual. "m, brain food...." |
| 17:59.14 | osopolis | awww...i should have buy some coins back in the days :) |
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| 18:02.05 | mumpitzel | MrMonkey31: binaries are distro dependent. source code is not |
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| 18:02.30 | mumpitzel | MrMonkey31: and module binaries come with the kernel itself |
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| 18:13.54 | wiretapped | i'm using dwm on wheezy, and occassionally some windows will turn gray and never redraw again. |
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| 18:14.13 | wiretapped | typically after i've accidentally hit alt-0 (show all windows) |
| 18:14.21 | wiretapped | any suggestions? |
| 18:17.25 | bluesm | What are the ".gz" files in the /usr/share/man/man1 ? |
| 18:17.48 | bluesm | it seems to be documentation files, but why they are not as plain text? |
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| 18:18.26 | ChrisH | bluesm: they are there in special format, SGML (IIRC) and gzip'ed to save disk space |
| 18:18.59 | bluesm | I ask because, I somehow lost the "git" documentation files |
| 18:18.59 | bluesm | ---------- |
| 18:18.59 | bluesm | man: can't resolve /usr/share/man/man1/git-commit.1.gz: No such file or directory |
| 18:18.59 | bluesm | No manual entry for git-commit |
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| 18:20.02 | MraMaria | man git-commit |
| 18:20.10 | MraMaria | easy ...:p |
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| 18:20.55 | bluesm | debhelper: 3 lines are allowed ? |
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| 18:21.40 | mumpitzel | bluesm: they are gzipped manpages. install git-man and you have your manpages back |
| 18:21.51 | bluesm | Eh. I suspect debhelper is a bot. (Anybody said something to me while I was kicked ? ) |
| 18:22.10 | MraMaria | sudo dpkg-reconfigure git-man |
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| 18:22.52 | bluesm | MraMaria: mumpitzel: I compiled it from the source... git --version - git version 1.8.4.2 |
| 18:23.15 | mumpitzel | bluesm: then you are on your own. have a nice day |
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| 18:23.29 | bluesm | mumpitzel: Thanks :D :) |
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| 18:25.04 | bluesm | mumpitzel: You are put-off by everyone who doesn't use the package manager ? :) |
| 18:25.04 | MraMaria | for the man pages only I'm pretty sure you could do it, not affecting the whole package, bluesm |
| 18:25.13 | jaami | can vmware run mac on debian? |
| 18:25.27 | MraMaria | sure jaami |
| 18:25.49 | mumpitzel | bluesm: no. we just don't support non-debian problems. this channel is named #debian. if you have problems with debian software then we can (hopefully) support it |
| 18:25.54 | jaami | MraMaria, i want to do it now. would you help me ? |
| 18:26.12 | cvillelk | by MAC you mean OSX |
| 18:26.13 | mumpitzel | !vmwware |
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| 18:26.24 | mumpitzel | jaami: and MraMaria is most probably wrong anyways |
| 18:26.28 | mumpitzel | !vmware |
| 18:26.28 | dpkg | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported, ask me about <vmware support>. VMware is not in Debian because it is not Free software; even though you might be able to download it for no cost, the source code is not available for some parts and Debian is not allowed to distribute it, see <dfsg>. http://wiki.debian.org/VMware #vmware on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 18:26.47 | ChrisH | bluesm: git-man: /usr/share/man/man1/git-commit.1.gz |
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| 18:27.15 | jaami | thanks mumpitzel , let me read msg from dpkg |
| 18:27.31 | mumpitzel | ChrisH: since he compiled from source, not applicable |
| 18:27.58 | hurdorbsd | best DE? |
| 18:28.18 | mumpitzel | !tell hurdorbsd about best |
| 18:28.48 | jaami | what alternative to vmware is for debian? |
| 18:29.23 | bluesm | ChrisH: So when you install, the installation script passes the "plain text" docs to the Operating System, which then compress it ? |
| 18:29.36 | bluesm | ChrisH: And provide interface to access this documentation ? |
| 18:29.38 | mumpitzel | jaami: kvm, xen, lxc |
| 18:29.55 | jaami | best one with gui ? |
| 18:30.04 | mumpitzel | !tell jaami about best |
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| 18:30.37 | jaami | yeh, tina turner |
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| 18:31.14 | mumpitzel | jaami: look at virtualbox and kvm with virt-manager |
| 18:31.16 | jaami | is it kvm, xen or lxe the one with GUI |
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| 18:31.30 | jaami | oh ok, thanks mumpitzel |
| 18:31.54 | tremon | jaami: virt-manager is the gui, and it can manage all three |
| 18:32.08 | jaami | ah ic |
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| 18:32.21 | jaami | nice tip |
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| 18:32.49 | MraMaria | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QECcBTlYUaI |
| 18:33.08 | MraMaria | OSX on Debian... |
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| 18:33.27 | jaami | is that for me MraMaria ? |
| 18:33.38 | bluesm | Does the documentation is deleted when you unistall package ? |
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| 18:33.47 | MraMaria | just to take a look at it... |
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| 18:34.36 | jaami | hmm, i need proxy server to just take a look at it because youtube is baned here. will you help me to install proxy server? |
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| 18:34.49 | jaami | MraMaria, |
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| 18:41.40 | MraMaria | jaami, sorry, I can't |
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| 18:43.22 | jaami | MraMaria, i understand, you might be busy. i will ask help from mumpitzel . he is always helping at anytime. geat man |
| 18:43.30 | jaami | great*** |
| 18:43.57 | MraMaria | Yes I am :) Only picking here at times |
| 18:44.11 | ChrisH | bluesm: my assumption was, you did use the package. the man pages get delivered in source package normally in SGML format and Makefile needs to compress and copy them. |
| 18:44.39 | jaami | MraMaria, no problem, thanks |
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| 18:45.40 | bluesm | ChrisH: So compilation script figures out on which platform is, and how it should behave, where put appropriate files and in which format ? |
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| 18:47.01 | abailarri | Hello. Th sound of my browsers not work!! Not work with iceweasel,firefox o chrome! I don't know what tot do. The rest of the sound works fine (like music reproductor, etc) Any suggestion please? |
| 18:47.37 | MraMaria | bluesm, you are worried only agout the man pages... if everything else works why not the we?! https://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-commit.html |
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| 18:47.52 | MraMaria | *the web?!* |
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| 18:48.29 | tnks | I have an external UBS driver that isn't being sensed on reboot, but I can get working by physically reconnecting the USB cable. |
| 18:48.39 | tnks | is that something others have experienced? |
| 18:48.48 | bluesm | MraMaria: I learn git. And it is extremely useful to have docs in commind line instead on having to switch to browser. |
| 18:48.50 | tnks | I'm have a hard time Googling for this particular problem. |
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| 18:49.54 | tnks | actually, I'm dumb and using IRC on the same machine I'm rebooting. |
| 18:49.57 | tnks | I'll be back. |
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| 18:54.59 | shajra | k, so I'm "tnks" if anyone had a response to my USB question. |
| 18:55.07 | MrMonkey31 | mumpitzel: thanks for telling about binaries. l'll prolly have other kernelly questions soon for ya. I wish I could say this stuff comes easy and naturally, but I've actually found linux to be more than a bit UNnatural. though it's nothing that a little patience can't cure |
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| 19:00.22 | shajra | okay, could be as simple as adding "usb-storage" in /etc/modules. |
| 19:01.35 | MraMaria | shajra, use: http://paste.debian.net/ with your '$ cat etc/fstab ' ' $ mount -l ' ' $ $ sudo blkid '. It's a good starting point. I'm not telling I could help you... |
| 19:02.09 | shajra | MraMaria: will do; thanks for offering the help. |
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| 19:02.40 | MraMaria | shajra, do that with the USB mounted though |
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| 19:03.08 | shajra | MraMaria: oh, okay, I'll step over and physically reconnect the cable. |
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| 19:04.27 | MraMaria | shajra, take your time, no worries |
| 19:04.32 | Shinobi | I see a lot of dm devices. I don't recall setting up lvm, is there a way to find out what all those are? some don't look like they have valid partition tables |
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| 19:07.00 | Gregor2 | anyone knows what dcp is? |
| 19:07.20 | Gregor2 | i mean digital cinema package |
| 19:07.30 | Gregor2 | a format for the cinema |
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| 19:08.21 | MraMaria | Shinobi, this is dangerous remotely (I mean helping reconstruct your disks/partitions in your system) But.. you could safely do ' # lvm vgscan ' to check for LVM volumes. |
| 19:08.47 | n1md4 | Don't suppose any one knows the status of the Sane project? |
| 19:09.09 | shajra | MraMaria: here you go: http://paste.debian.net/66304/ |
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| 19:10.13 | Marvin- | hello, i change m debian resolution and it seems the "remote desktop" service crashed. |
| 19:10.39 | Marvin- | i cant figure out which one the default xfce desktop it uses |
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| 19:11.09 | Shinobi | mramaria: Just to be clear, the system is working fine. I just did an fdisk-l and was surprised by these entries: http://paste.debian.net/66305/ |
| 19:11.49 | Shinobi | md0 is my raid and is OK, /dev/sdf1 is a removable USB and is ok. The dm devices are a mystery |
| 19:11.57 | MraMaria | shajra, /dev/sdc ?? :o |
| 19:12.21 | shajra | MraMaria: okay, so you wanted a UUID, I'm guessing, right? |
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| 19:12.49 | MraMaria | shajra, the USB drive.. is that the one? raid? |
| 19:12.57 | tidux | why the hell is Debian caching DNS? |
| 19:13.04 | tidux | I don't have dnsmasq installed on the client machine |
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| 19:13.17 | tidux | and on the server where I do have dnsmasq running, it's routing properly |
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| 19:13.53 | shajra | MraMaria: it's actuall a RAID1 (/dev/md0) that's backed by two USB drives (/dev/sdb and /dev/sdc) |
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| 19:14.38 | shajra | so the steps to set it up again after a warm reboot are: 1) reconned the cable 2) sudo mdadm --assemble --scan 3) sudo mount /srv/backup |
| 19:14.59 | shajra | which I'd be happy to automate if it didn't involve a cable reconnection. |
| 19:15.00 | FZEROX | Does anyone have any documentation specifically for a live usb/ |
| 19:15.06 | FZEROX | ?* |
| 19:15.40 | tidux | live USB? just install to USB and boot from it |
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| 19:15.46 | tidux | kernel treats it just like any other SATA drive |
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| 19:18.16 | Gregor2 | cant someone tell me how to config users on vsftpd |
| 19:18.55 | MraMaria | shajra, sorry, I might not help you with that. I have not done raid yet. However, try to change /etc/fstab on the drive to:UUID=xxxxxxx/media/mount_point ext4 defaults,user,exec,noatime 0 0 |
| 19:19.38 | shajra | MraMaria: the problem is more subtle than that. |
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| 19:19.46 | emss | Gregor2 read the vsftpd documentation check /usr/share/doc/vsftpd/ ? |
| 19:19.50 | shajra | because it's not a problem with the mounting. |
| 19:20.10 | shajra | so much as the devices aren't even in /dev until I cycle the power of the unit. |
| 19:20.13 | MraMaria | shajra, # mkdir /media/WhateverNameUSB before reboot. |
| 19:20.58 | shajra | MraMaria: the /srv/backup directory is already made and persists. |
| 19:21.03 | MraMaria | shajra, IF doesn't work go into recover console by pressing SHIFT before grub loading and comment that line |
| 19:21.06 | Shinobi | mramaria: Turns out I have a volume group. How can I see what dm devices it points to? |
| 19:21.33 | MraMaria | shajra, so adapt it to your already made changes |
| 19:21.44 | shajra | MraMaria: sorry, not tracking your last comments. |
| 19:21.54 | shajra | what do you want me to do in GRUB? |
| 19:22.29 | shajra | MraMaria: are you just suggesting that I disable the line in /etc/fstab? |
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| 19:22.35 | shajra | or somewhere else? |
| 19:23.14 | MraMaria | shajra, Nooo.. :) just in case the system hangs on boot - you could press SHIFT while it's rebooting and in the recovery console edit /etc/fstab |
| 19:23.26 | shajra | MraMaria: oh, it's not hanging. |
| 19:23.35 | shajra | just not working the way I want. |
| 19:23.38 | MraMaria | did it mount now? |
| 19:23.58 | shajra | sorry, it's in the same condition. |
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| 19:24.39 | shajra | I get everything working after cycling power on the USB storage enclosure, and then mdadmin/mount'ing. |
| 19:24.58 | ChrisH | bluesm: yes. somehow. But use the debian package on debian.... saves lot of time and problems. |
| 19:25.09 | shajra | but if I "sudo reboot" the system, it still requires a physical power cycle of the USB storage enclosure. |
| 19:25.21 | shajra | can't figure out how to get past that dependency. |
| 19:25.40 | MraMaria | shajra, I have same sort of issue,it works like I pasted to you but since it's a 1.5 TB with a lot of data the system takes a bit to mount it. |
| 19:26.17 | bluesm | ChrisH: I'm as little experienced with the debian package system, as with compiling with source code so... You know I'm young, I try to tinker around :) |
| 19:26.19 | shajra | MraMaria: oh, I missed that line, sorry. |
| 19:26.22 | shajra | let me try that. |
| 19:26.24 | MraMaria | UUID=xxxxxxx /media/mount_point ext4 defaults,user,exec,noatime 0 0 |
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| 19:28.16 | mumpitzel | ,v git |
| 19:28.18 | judd | Package: git on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.8.4~rc3-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:1.8.4.2-1; sid: 1:1.8.4.3-1; experimental: 1:1.8.5~rc0-1 |
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| 19:28.54 | mumpitzel | bluesm: see this? there is a 1.8 backport or you could backport from experimental maybe. MUCH much better than simply compiling directly from upstream source |
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| 19:29.24 | mumpitzel | bluesm: the jessie git is the same version you compiled |
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| 19:33.17 | xeon827 | http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/02/17/how-to-dual-boot-debian-6-and-windows-7/ |
| 19:33.36 | xeon827 | would these instructions work for the current debian? |
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| 19:34.47 | DoverMo | xeon827, dont use window |
| 19:34.49 | DoverMo | s |
| 19:34.56 | daemonkeeper | xeon827: Yes. |
| 19:35.07 | daemonkeeper | xeon827: You don't need to reinstall everything by the way. |
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| 19:35.57 | teraflops | are the gpg tools as the gpg suite for osx as reliable as the gnupg based? |
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| 19:37.24 | mumpitzel | xeon827: these are bad instructions |
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| 19:38.32 | mojzesz | Hi all |
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| 19:42.57 | rtjure | http://pastie.org/private/jfekvtergrbnwthojlgnsq |
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| 19:43.51 | jdoles | How can I check in constant time whether a particular site has been enabled in Apache (a2ensite foo stuff)? |
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| 19:46.57 | tremon | jdoles: ls /etc/apache2/sites.enabled/ ? |
| 19:48.07 | jdoles | tremon: never mind, I already got it figured out that Debian basically provides an incomplete hacked interface to determine key features. |
| 19:48.23 | jdoles | tremon: in newer versions of Debian this stuff has been fixed, or so I have heard. |
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| 19:50.25 | honestly | anyone here familiar with pam? does pam itself have a concept of "realms" or is that something only specific modules do by themselves? |
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| 20:03.31 | tockitj | is there an equivalent of world fire on debian ? |
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| 20:04.11 | socomm | what is world fire? |
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| 20:06.21 | RNZ | Hi! Anybody known how to profiling program to detect current limits? |
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| 20:09.54 | jaami | my vmdk file can be accepted by virtualbox? |
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| 20:11.41 | tockitj | socomm, it lists packages that were manually installed |
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| 20:12.49 | socomm | jaami: virtualbox accepts vmdk images |
| 20:12.51 | mumpitzel | RNZ: man gprof |
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| 20:14.33 | RNZ | mumpitzel: already )) but need silver bullet )) |
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| 20:15.11 | jelly-home | silver is expensive |
| 20:15.38 | socomm | jelly-home: buy gold |
| 20:16.42 | RNZ | may be bitcoin/litecoin ? |
| 20:16.50 | RNZ | )) |
| 20:17.10 | Gregor2 | can someone pleas tell me where to add users on vsftpdi cant find it anywhere on the internet! |
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| 20:17.38 | Shinobi | This machine was setup by the autoinstaller some years ago. Does this seem odd to you: http://paste.debian.net/66313/ |
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| 20:18.27 | Shinobi | Can anyone tell me why sde1 is not ending on a cylinder and sharing a block with sde2 |
| 20:18.35 | socomm | Gregor2: http://www.hosting.com/support/linux/adding-ftp-users-for-vsftp/ |
| 20:19.04 | socomm | Gregor2: first result on google "vsftpd add user" search term |
| 20:19.48 | socomm | Shinobi: does what, exactly, look odd? |
| 20:19.51 | Gregor2 | and how can i config what the users are able to do? |
| 20:19.57 | Gregor2 | and the password? |
| 20:20.27 | Shinobi | socomm: sde1 ending on block 32, sde2 starts on block 32 |
| 20:20.29 | socomm | Gregor2: read the docs, if I remember correctly vsftpd reads from /etc/passwd, you may be able to configure it to use virtual users as well |
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| 20:20.56 | Gregor2 | and i have to make normal users! |
| 20:21.01 | Gregor2 | in debian? |
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| 20:21.15 | Gregor2 | a user like root is one? |
| 20:22.21 | socomm | Gregor2: haven't used vsftpd in years, ask on #vsftpd |
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| 20:23.04 | Gregor2 | channel dont exists |
| 20:23.14 | xand | it will exist if you join it |
| 20:23.33 | Gregor2 | oh its hidden? |
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| 20:24.12 | socomm | Gregor2: I am @ #vsftpd now, m8 |
| 20:24.24 | xand | !ftp must die |
| 20:24.25 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie . If you really just want to provide anonymous download of files, use HTTP: http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/ftp-vs-http.html |
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| 20:24.33 | RNZ | gprof need profile data. But I need detect which of current processes to rested against the limits |
| 20:24.40 | xand | read that |
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| 20:25.07 | socomm | xand: one can wish |
| 20:25.07 | Gregor2 | but at http you cant upload! |
| 20:25.17 | Gregor2 | right? |
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| 20:25.39 | socomm | I remember asking an old boss if we could've moved all the FTP users to SFTP, he outright said now without even letting me explain the security implications of FTP |
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| 20:26.04 | socomm | he out right said no* |
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| 20:26.31 | Gregor2 | whats the difference between ftp and sftp? |
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| 20:26.33 | shajra | MraMaria: so, when I connected the USB storage to the USB 2.0 ports. . . everything worked fine. |
| 20:26.39 | shajra | something about the USB 3.0 ports. |
| 20:26.50 | socomm | Gregor2: SFTP == encrypted FTP |
| 20:26.59 | Gregor2 | is that slower? |
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| 20:27.14 | xand | SFTP isn't encrypted FTP |
| 20:27.21 | xand | SFTP is a different protocol over SSH |
| 20:27.29 | Gregor2 | can you access sftp with normal ftp client? |
| 20:27.32 | socomm | xand: over simplifying |
| 20:27.51 | xand | Gregor2: you can with things like filezilla |
| 20:28.07 | socomm | Gregor2: no sftp requires seperate client, but if you use filezilla or similar, it speaks sftp and ftp and some other protocols |
| 20:28.47 | dast1986 | most Linux distro's even support SFTP out-of-the box on the CLI (Debian does ^^) |
| 20:29.05 | Gregor2 | and windows? |
| 20:29.10 | Gregor2 | and android? |
| 20:29.11 | socomm | dast1986: I'm not sure if minimal supports sftp |
| 20:29.20 | dast1986 | i said 'most' :-P |
| 20:29.22 | socomm | Gregor2: you'll need to install SFTP clients for those |
| 20:29.35 | Gregor2 | with filezilla you can access sftp? |
| 20:29.40 | socomm | Gregor2: but same probably goes for FTP |
| 20:29.45 | socomm | Gregor2: yes |
| 20:29.47 | Gregor2 | and with firefox? |
| 20:30.09 | socomm | Gregor2: Firefox does not have access for SFTP out of the box, you may need to install add-on for that |
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| 20:30.21 | socomm | does not have support for SFTP* |
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| 20:31.00 | Gregor2 | and can you make an sftp server with sftpd? |
| 20:31.08 | Gregor2 | i mean vsftpd! |
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| 20:31.49 | mumpitzel | Gregor2: no. your sshd already is a sftp server |
| 20:31.53 | socomm | Gregor2: not sure, but if you've SSH server installed you should be able to host SFTP |
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| 20:34.48 | Ast001 | hello again just is someone else have similar problem with intel HD4000 on wheezy (freeze). It seems problem has gone away when I installed and boot from backport kernel 3.10-0.bpo.3-amd64. |
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| 20:40.23 | RickWeaver | hi |
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| 20:41.29 | dast1986 | RickWeaver: hi |
| 20:41.42 | RickWeaver | i have recently installed a debian based distro and i am experiencing a problem with my sound card |
| 20:41.59 | RickWeaver | actually there is no irc channel for that distro that's why i try it here |
| 20:42.04 | dast1986 | what distro is it |
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| 20:42.17 | RickWeaver | antix |
| 20:42.35 | RickWeaver | at least i did not find any info about any irc channel |
| 20:42.45 | dast1986 | np |
| 20:42.50 | dast1986 | what is the issue you're having? |
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| 20:43.47 | RickWeaver | after installing it everything worked perfectly until i have decided to try the awesome window manager |
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| 20:43.55 | RickWeaver | since then there is no sound at al |
| 20:44.13 | RickWeaver | when try lspci shows my sound card |
| 20:44.25 | dast1986 | isn't the sound just turned off? (><) |
| 20:44.27 | RickWeaver | when i enter alsamixer it says no soundcard found |
| 20:44.33 | RickWeaver | nope |
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| 20:45.08 | dast1986 | you know what kernelmodule is being used for your soundcard? |
| 20:45.16 | dast1986 | fire up a lsmod and see if it is in there |
| 20:45.26 | RickWeaver | lsmod |
| 20:45.30 | RickWeaver | ok |
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| 20:47.14 | RickWeaver | just to know i am not an expert so sry if i ask back stupid questions :) |
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| 20:48.00 | RickWeaver | so |
| 20:48.26 | RickWeaver | what i am looking for is something with snd at the modules. is that correct> |
| 20:48.28 | RickWeaver | ? |
| 20:48.44 | dast1986 | think so, i don't know what the module of your soundcard is called :-P |
| 20:48.50 | dast1986 | what kind of soundcard do you have? |
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| 20:49.21 | RickWeaver | it is an intel onboard soundcard in a netbook |
| 20:49.29 | Gregor2 | if i connect to my ftp server it asks for password |
| 20:49.47 | Gregor2 | if i type a username or password it says |
| 20:49.57 | dast1986 | RickWeaver: it still is some chip with a name and type and version and stuff |
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| 20:50.06 | pmurias | what could be causing my dell inspiron 5720 to get really hot (and the whole machine seems to slow down) |
| 20:50.21 | Gregor2 | server is anonym only |
| 20:50.22 | dast1986 | pmurias: a faulty fan :-P |
| 20:50.26 | pmurias | it dosn't happen on window 7 |
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| 20:50.33 | RickWeaver | sry.. it's an interl nm10/ich7 family high definition audio controller |
| 20:51.13 | pmurias | and only started occuring recently after install a bunch of stuff with apt-get |
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| 20:51.42 | dast1986 | hmm, not official Linux drivers for that chipset |
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| 20:52.34 | RickWeaver | dast1986 should i try anything else than alsa? i mean it was working properly after install |
| 20:52.35 | dast1986 | i think you need this module: snd_hda_intel |
| 20:52.51 | dast1986 | try lsmod | grep snd_hda |
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| 20:52.56 | dast1986 | let's see what it gives you |
| 20:53.09 | dast1986 | if it isn't in there, try to insert it with modprobe |
| 20:53.36 | RickWeaver | for snd |
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| 20:53.45 | RickWeaver | for snd_hda it gives nothing |
| 20:53.47 | pmurias | is there a way to check if really the too high temperature is causing the slowdown? |
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| 20:54.01 | dast1986 | pmurias: check the bios |
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| 20:54.26 | dast1986 | RickWeaver: try to insert it with modprobe.. if it did work at some point, it should be installed somewhere |
| 20:54.26 | albebas | helo |
| 20:54.33 | RickWeaver | for snd it gives snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event _rawmidi _seq _seqdevice |
| 20:54.39 | RickWeaver | and simple snd |
| 20:54.51 | RickWeaver | ok |
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| 20:55.31 | pmurias | dast1986: what should I check in the bios? |
| 20:55.34 | dast1986 | maybe this can help aswell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto |
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| 20:55.39 | dast1986 | pmurias: the temps |
| 20:56.13 | dast1986 | pmurias: i once had a wrong driver for my vga-card, resulting in very high fan-speed when working normally without any high temps |
| 20:56.18 | dast1986 | that might be the issue for you aswell |
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| 20:57.02 | RickWeaver | i will have a look on the link and will get back to you |
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| 20:57.21 | dast1986 | RickWeaver: okay :-), good luck, mate |
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| 20:57.53 | pmurias | by checking the bios you mean by using something like i8kfan or by entering the bios while rebooting? |
| 20:58.09 | dast1986 | entering the bios while rebooting :-) |
| 20:58.21 | dast1986 | i8kfan is unknown to me :-) |
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| 20:59.50 | RickWeaver | dast1986: ok, i am stuck at the very beginning... the system does not recognises any soundcards... /proc/asound/cards says no soundcards |
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| 21:00.18 | dast1986 | hmm.. and it did work in the other gui? |
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| 21:00.51 | pvdk | hi |
| 21:01.23 | pvdk | what's the procedure for reporting/fixing spelling/grammar errors in software translations? |
| 21:01.48 | RickWeaver | yes.. after installation i just watched some vids on the youtube, there was the speaker icon on the bottom of the screen. after installing awesome and switching back to icewm there is no sound, there is no icon |
| 21:01.51 | pmurias | dast1986: i8kfan returns a temperature of 85, is that ok? |
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| 21:02.32 | iateadonut | hi - i'm trying to install debian onto an AMD 8350. i installed mint but that apparently uses a kernel that makes the chip run too hot. |
| 21:02.35 | dast1986 | RickWeaver: That's odd ... sorry, can't be of any help to you |
| 21:02.47 | dast1986 | pmurias: 85 sounds a little high to me :-P |
| 21:03.01 | iateadonut | i'm not quite sure how to install debian over USB |
| 21:03.06 | bruce | help.. |
| 21:03.08 | bruce | apt-get install xchatnReading package lists... DonenBuilding dependency tree nReading state information... DonenE: Unable to locate package xchat |
| 21:03.13 | pvdk | iateadonut: try unetbootin |
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| 21:03.17 | RickWeaver | no problem, i might will do a reinstall, there is nothing to lose at the moment and i will take notes about the modules and stuff we were talking about |
| 21:03.26 | bruce | apt-get install xchatnReading package lists... DonenBuilding dependency tree nReading state information... DonenE: Unable to locate package xchat |
| 21:03.26 | RickWeaver | anyway thank you very much |
| 21:03.27 | dast1986 | bruce: try irssi, I like it better as x-chat |
| 21:03.29 | pvdk | iateadonut: it will make a bootable usb drive for you |
| 21:03.45 | pmurias | dast1986: thanks, I'll check on windows to see if the overheating persist (it might be a fan problem after all) |
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| 21:03.54 | dast1986 | RickWaver: yw, good luck! let me know how it turned out |
| 21:04.07 | RickWeaver | i will, promise |
| 21:04.10 | RickWeaver | see ya |
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| 21:04.22 | Gregor2 | what is a good sftp deamon? |
| 21:04.45 | xand | Gregor2: openssh-server |
| 21:04.50 | dast1986 | Gregor2: for linux or for windows? |
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| 21:04.55 | pvdk | heh was just going to say openssh too |
| 21:04.59 | Gregor2 | for linux |
| 21:05.02 | pvdk | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenSSH/Cookbook/SFTP |
| 21:05.03 | xand | dast1986: what channel is this? |
| 21:05.06 | dast1986 | Gregor2: i used to work with Total Commander a lot on Windows and that suited me |
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| 21:05.20 | Gregor2 | is openssh for linux |
| 21:05.22 | Gregor2 | ? |
| 21:05.29 | xand | it comes from openbsd |
| 21:05.33 | pvdk | for linux and about everything else |
| 21:05.39 | bruce | dast1986: i get the same error nE: Unable to locate package irssi |
| 21:05.44 | dast1986 | xand: could've been she was asking to connect to a debian box... |
| 21:05.49 | xand | dast1986: daemon. |
| 21:05.55 | pvdk | but is there some debian team member person here? |
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| 21:06.01 | dast1986 | bruce: try a apt-get update first, if that didn't fix it, check your repos in /etc/apt/sources |
| 21:06.09 | xand | Gregor2: if you can ssh to the machine then you already have sftp |
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| 21:06.57 | iateadonut | pvdk, can the bootable usb drive then install debian as if it were a live cd? |
| 21:07.05 | pvdk | iateadonut: yeah |
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| 21:07.15 | iateadonut | or will it be more like just having the debian install right there? |
| 21:07.31 | bruce | dast1986: can guide me the way to update? i newbie and lost now |
| 21:07.31 | pvdk | no it will boot as if it were a cd |
| 21:07.50 | pvdk | bruce: what are you doing with debian then :) |
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| 21:08.35 | iateadonut | pvdk, thanks. i was actually just dd'ing an iso to a usb in hopes that would work. this should save me some time. |
| 21:08.43 | dast1986 | bruce: to update, enter: apt-get update |
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| 21:08.58 | bruce | pvdk: just try out. and hope can replace my ubuntu |
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| 21:09.18 | dast1986 | bruce: this doesn't update your OS or your applications, but the package database that aptitude uses |
| 21:09.23 | pvdk | bruce: why replace ubuntu with debian then? |
| 21:09.49 | dast1986 | bruce: if you enter that command, it will retrieve all packagedatabases from all sources and creates a local one |
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| 21:10.12 | dast1986 | bruce: if you have done that and still cannot install irssi or x-chat, you will have to check your sources in /etc/apt/sources |
| 21:10.21 | Gregor2 | what do you say to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVxEdVqWGuI |
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| 21:10.44 | vampi-the-frog | hi guys. I can't see any devices in gnome 3 sound settings, even thugh the sound is working fine. any idea what I can do to fix that? This has the side effect of having no volume icon in the top bar |
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| 21:11.28 | dast1986 | bruce: bruce: ubuntu is debian based :-P the aptitude works the same |
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| 21:12.12 | bruce | dast1986: i get the same error. |
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| 21:12.25 | dast1986 | bruce: when doing a update? or when installing the shizzle? |
| 21:12.36 | bruce | dast1986: this is why i lost in debian |
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| 21:13.03 | dast1986 | bruce: check your sources file :-) |
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| 21:13.34 | dast1986 | bruce: open it with a texteditor (vi FTW!) like this: vi /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 21:15.40 | bruce | dast1986: # A network mirror was not selected during install. |
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| 21:15.49 | dast1986 | bruce: there you go :-) |
| 21:16.00 | dast1986 | bruce, are you using the normal debian distro on a 'normal' pc? |
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| 21:16.18 | bruce | dast1986: yup |
| 21:16.24 | dast1986 | bruce: wheezy? |
| 21:16.40 | bruce | dast1986: my dasktop yes wheezy |
| 21:16.52 | dast1986 | bruce: nice, awesome! try this: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
| 21:17.04 | wiretapped | vampi-the-frog: try pavucontrol? |
| 21:17.17 | dast1986 | bruce: at the middle of the pages you see some mirrors you can add to your sources list so it can retrieve files from the interwebs |
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| 21:17.36 | dast1986 | bruce: edit your sources.list file, run apt-get update, and then try to apt-get install xchat |
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| 21:17.41 | wiretapped | vampi-the-frog: oh wait i just remembered pulseaudio in wheezy might make that not work :( |
| 21:17.47 | dast1986 | bruce: that will most problably fix your issue |
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| 21:18.20 | bruce | dast1986: thank. i trying |
| 21:18.26 | wiretapped | vampi-the-frog: i think i set 'autospawn = no' in my /etc/pulse/client.conf |
| 21:18.29 | jonaskoelker | Hi all. When I hold down (e.g.) 'c' until autorepeat starts, then press ctrl, then release ctrl, then 'c' keeps repeating for ~2 secs, then stops. How do I get 'c' to continue repeating? |
| 21:18.34 | dast1986 | bruce: good luck, let me know! |
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| 21:19.21 | wiretapped | vampi-the-frog: and then added start-pulseaudio-x11 to my x session |
| 21:19.22 | jonaskoelker | ... I observe this in both xev, in two games (the real motivation) and in xterm |
| 21:19.42 | wiretapped | and now my audio experience is good :) |
| 21:20.08 | vampi-the-frog | wiretapped: why doesn't gnome detect sound automatically? |
| 21:20.20 | iceroot | i am searching for kompozer/composer (HTML WYSIWYG editor) kompozer was removed from debian stabke, apt-cache show iceape shows me, there is a compoer inside but i can not install iceape because it will remove for example enigmail (have icedove, iceweasel and so on installed as single programs) |
| 21:20.26 | wiretapped | no idea :( |
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| 21:21.19 | iceroot | so maybe someone which has iceape installed could tell me if there is really "composer" included? |
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| 21:23.53 | iceroot | and what is iceape navigator? iceweasel? or another firefox fork? |
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| 21:24.43 | RickWeaver | dast1986: hey man, a simple modprobe did the trick |
| 21:24.47 | MraMaria | Shinobi, good. I'm glad you figured it out. Hopefully in a couple of lightyears from now we still could use our i386 machines with Debian and workarounds for USB/versions/ sppeds:) |
| 21:24.53 | vampi-the-frog | wiretapped: I installed the 'pulseaudio' package and now it works fine, thanks |
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| 21:25.22 | dast1986 | RickWeaver: i told you :-P |
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| 21:25.28 | dast1986 | RickWaver: what module did you probe? |
| 21:25.40 | RickWeaver | snd_hda_intel |
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| 21:25.53 | RickWeaver | i just missed the intel part from the end |
| 21:25.56 | dast1986 | RickWeaver: dude, i told you to insert that one (><) |
| 21:26.00 | MraMaria | not Shinobi but shajra :) |
| 21:26.21 | RickWeaver | well... yeah.. u said the missing one is snd_hda :) |
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| 21:26.30 | RickWeaver | but anyway you were right |
| 21:26.33 | dast1986 | RickWaver: no i didn't |
| 21:26.42 | dast1986 | RickWeaver: but gald it is working! Enjoy your tunes |
| 21:26.47 | RickWeaver | i will |
| 21:26.51 | shajra | MraMaria: well, it's not like I really figured it out. |
| 21:26.52 | RickWeaver | but one more question |
| 21:27.00 | shajra | I bought this enclosure because it was USB 3.0 |
| 21:27.04 | RickWeaver | do i need to do this every time i start the computer? |
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| 21:27.20 | shajra | it works the way I want if I downgrade the connection to 2.0 |
| 21:27.21 | MraMaria | shajra, so... |
| 21:27.31 | MraMaria | shajra, ahh ok |
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| 21:27.51 | shajra | also, it's kind of ugly because the USB 2.0 ports are in the front of the computer case. |
| 21:27.53 | dast1986 | RickWeaver: read this: https://wiki.debian.org/Modules |
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| 21:28.37 | RickWeaver | will do right now... once again thank you buddy ;) |
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| 21:29.37 | dast1986 | RickWeaver: you're welcome. i wouldn't decline a beer (><) |
| 21:30.00 | RickWeaver | where are you located? :) if you are in ireland we can talk about it :) |
| 21:30.11 | MraMaria | shajra, it's better although there are some tweaks to be made yet, in order to be compatible, in most distros |
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| 21:30.53 | shajra | MraMaria: sorry, I think I'm missing your point. |
| 21:31.10 | jonaskoelker | RickWeaver: otherwise, you can fax him a beer ;) |
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| 21:31.45 | RickWeaver | well... e-mail is more convenient way :) |
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| 21:32.14 | jonaskoelker | Of course! Use the Simple Mead Transfer Protocol ;) |
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| 21:32.26 | RickWeaver | :)) |
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| 21:38.47 | Gregor2 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkyGQnZNLYY |
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| 21:44.46 | jorgeaber_ | hello |
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| 21:45.20 | jorgeaber | 1234 |
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| 21:46.45 | enkidu | simple question |
| 21:47.11 | enkidu | how to stop apache2 from starting and stop debian from making it enabled during update? |
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| 21:47.57 | enkidu | I was removing this piece of crap, but it was installed as dependency. I removed it from default runlevels. Still it is reverted to initial state. I want to use lighttpd |
| 21:48.12 | g105b | How do I recursively remove extensions of all .mbox files in a directory? |
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| 21:49.24 | don_armstrong | g105b: find . -type f -name '*.mbox' -print0|xargs -0 rename 's/\.mbox$//;'; or similar. |
| 21:49.32 | don_armstrong | g105b: man find; man xargs; man rename; |
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| 21:50.48 | g105b | dondelelcaro, hmm, it didn't seem to work for files with spaces in their name. |
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| 21:55.25 | sudomakemesandwi | What would be an entry level way to get into private and secure routing away from spying eyes. |
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| 21:55.45 | sudomakemesandwi | Can anyone be trusted |
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| 21:56.16 | sudomakemesandwi | It's the paranoid in me speaking... :) But really I am just curious |
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| 22:01.30 | jonaskoelker | g105b: find -name '*.mbox' -exec rm '{}' ';' |
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| 22:04.21 | FaV1r3s | http://falkvinge.net/2013/11/17/nsa-asked-linus-torvalds-to-install-backdoors-into-gnulinux/ |
| 22:04.32 | Shinobi | I'm getting messages on shutdown that my linux raid and lvm cannot be unmounted. Is this normal, or should they unmount cleanly when halting the system? |
| 22:04.55 | bruce | dast1986: thank. i'm now install irssi |
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| 22:12.01 | Shinobi | How long does an upgrade take? Squeeze to Wheezy |
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| 22:12.54 | xand | Shinobi: probably depends how fast your internet connection is for downloading packages |
| 22:13.13 | Chousuke | and how fast your root disk is :P |
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| 22:29.18 | Gregor2 | libc6 (>=2.15) |
| 22:29.22 | Gregor2 | means what? |
| 22:29.45 | dvs | ,v libc6 |
| 22:29.46 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38; jessie: 2.17-93; sid: 2.17-96 |
| 22:30.01 | AleskEst_ | needs new version of it |
| 22:30.30 | AleskEst_ | use backports |
| 22:30.36 | Gregor2 | and i cant have a newer version on debian? |
| 22:30.45 | Gregor2 | what is backports? |
| 22:30.45 | AleskEst_ | you can |
| 22:30.52 | Gregor2 | realy |
| 22:30.55 | Gregor2 | omg |
| 22:30.57 | Gregor2 | how?? |
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| 22:31.22 | AleskEst_ | give me minurte |
| 22:31.33 | Gregor2 | shure |
| 22:31.35 | AleskEst_ | I am from mobile ) |
| 22:31.56 | Gregor2 | lol |
| 22:31.58 | Gregor2 | cool |
| 22:32.12 | forcer | Gregor2: That means a package depends on a newer version of libc6, which is only available in the testing and unstable distributions (jessie and sid). You probably got a package from testing somehow. If you don't want to go for testing/unstable, and it's like you don't, you should see what version of the package you actually want is available in stable. |
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| 22:35.36 | Gregor2 | i want to install dolphin (gamecube emulator) on debian wheezy |
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| 22:36.40 | Gregor2 | and with steam i have the same problem i think! |
| 22:36.51 | Gregor2 | cant i get a later version on wheezy |
| 22:37.00 | Gregor2 | or simulate it for this package? |
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| 22:37.23 | ska | http://paste.debian.net/66329/ , aptitude -f install wants to install a lot of packages. Is this normal? |
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| 22:38.15 | ska | how can I get it to not try to install all these? |
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| 22:39.04 | ska | Or are there dependencies that are asking for this |
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| 22:41.36 | AleksEst | Gregor2 it seems that it easier to use ubuntu in your case then |
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| 22:42.40 | Gregor2 | what is libc6? |
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| 22:43.31 | forcer | Gregor2: The basic library for system calls ("library for the C language, version 6") |
| 22:43.38 | Gregor2 | om |
| 22:43.39 | Gregor2 | g |
| 22:43.49 | Lady_Aleena | When I finally install DEbian, can I set the default file permission to 777 so I don't have to guess what file permission I need where? |
| 22:44.01 | Gregor2 | and cant i take two versions of it? |
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| 22:45.27 | Lady_Aleena | I seriously don't want to go back and forth between my text editor, browser, and file list for an hour trying to figure out why a file isn't loading properly in the browser. |
| 22:45.31 | forcer | Gregor2: Does not look like as if libc6 2.15 is available for wheezy yet. Installing it from jessie will bring a whole lot of dependencies with it, I think (you can try, though). You can also try and force the installation of the package that is causing you the problems. |
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| 22:46.24 | flypp | me encanta xD |
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| 22:46.36 | flypp | sorry |
| 22:46.45 | forcer | Lady_Aleena: You can, but I would not recommend it. You're just setting yourself up for major problems, security-wise. It would be a lot better to learn what permissions do and mean. Then you do not need to spend an hour on that. |
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| 22:47.40 | ska | I don't understand why 'aptitude -f install' wants to install a bazillion packages. |
| 22:47.52 | ska | while apt-get -f install does not.. |
| 22:48.17 | yomguy | Lady_Aleena, bad idea, all your data go in your /home/ |
| 22:49.33 | Lady_Aleena | I'm just so tired right now. I upload my website to 2 servers and there are so many differences in them, and then I run a page which works fine on Windows XP, but there I get Permission denied which drives me CRAZY! |
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| 22:50.50 | forcer | Gregor2: Please do not send private messages. If we talk in private, you basically force me to stick around to help you, and I'm not interested in that. |
| 22:51.08 | Gregor2 | ok |
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| 22:51.35 | bzed | ska: because aptitude is crap (or probably wants to install all recommended packages or somethig like that). I'm avoiding aptitude since years and I'm pretty happy with that |
| 22:52.00 | ska | bzed: well said... I'll follow your advice. |
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| 22:52.09 | ska | or your lead. |
| 22:52.10 | forcer | Gregor2: How you force an installation depends a bit on how you install the package that is causing you the trouble. You haven't told us yet. It's *likely* via dpkg, you can read the manual using "man dpkg" |
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| 22:52.38 | Gregor2 | its a .deb file |
| 22:52.44 | Gregor2 | i downloaded via http |
| 22:53.19 | forcer | Gregor2: Come to think of it, you might want to check whether there is a version for wheezy available on that server :-) |
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| 22:53.29 | JackTheRipper3 | Is anyone here using sendmail? |
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| 22:53.46 | Lady_Aleena | It is bad enough I will have to learn all new software when I install Debian, add file permissions and all the other things which are different from Windows, I just want to find a hole. There is so much to learn. I haven't even installed yet, and I am overwhelmed. |
| 22:53.48 | JackTheRipper3 | Is anyone here using the debian sendmail package? |
| 22:54.05 | Gregor2 | no |
| 22:54.07 | bzed | ska: telling apt not to install recommended packages is a good idea anyway btw ;) |
| 22:54.10 | Gregor2 | only for ubuntu! |
| 22:54.19 | JackTheRipper3 | mta is missing |
| 22:54.24 | bzed | Gregor2: for debian, too. |
| 22:54.28 | Gregor2 | no |
| 22:54.32 | bzed | (not as bad as in ubuntu, though) |
| 22:54.32 | Gregor2 | no one for debian |
| 22:54.36 | ska | bzed: I set that already in /etc/apt/apt/conf |
| 22:54.38 | bzed | Gregor2: yes. |
| 22:54.42 | ska | apt.conf rather |
| 22:54.47 | forcer | Lady_Aleena: Using a completely new operating system can be very daunting. Take a breath, take it easy, and enjoy the ride. We're here to help you along if we can. :-) |
| 22:54.55 | JackTheRipper3 | What mta package is sendmail looking for? |
| 22:54.56 | bzed | Gregor2: if you want to run a server, there is no fucki ng need in recommended crap unless you really need it. |
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| 22:55.14 | Gregor2 | here https://de.dolphin-emu.org/download/ |
| 22:55.44 | Lady_Aleena | forcer, I've been having a bad day all around when it comes to my computer. |
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| 22:56.26 | Vanfanel | Hi. What would a good way to disable DMIX Alsa plugin? I have this (http://pastebin.com/vQpYEa6E) on .asoundrc, but there's still software mixing going on. Thanks. |
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| 22:56.41 | bzed | JackTheRipper3: sendmail works well, but it is a pita to configure. if all you need is /usr/lib/sendmail, install exim or postfix, both provide that |
| 22:56.43 | forcer | Lady_Aleena: Sorry to hear so. :-/ |
| 22:56.56 | bzed | Vanfanel: are you sure its software? |
| 22:57.10 | JackTheRipper3 | apt-get purge sendmail-base Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 22:57.16 | bzed | Vanfanel: good hardware does hardware mixing and you can just send multiple sounds to it at the same time |
| 22:57.41 | JackTheRipper3 | Sorry to say postfix is more of a nightmare |
| 22:57.45 | bzed | JackTheRipper3: put the whole output into a pastebin |
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| 22:58.00 | bzed | JackTheRipper3: well, ymmv :) |
| 22:58.39 | JackTheRipper3 | http://pastebin.com/vENieqfD |
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| 23:00.43 | JackTheRipper3 | That is the output |
| 23:00.46 | JackTheRipper3 | http://pastebin.com/vENieqfD |
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| 23:02.00 | ska | bzed: aptitude keep-all clears out the "sticky" |
| 23:02.13 | ska | Which is good.. |
| 23:02.23 | ska | to know. |
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| 23:03.36 | mr`spock | hi folks |
| 23:04.04 | mr`spock | if i set PATH in /etc/environment, it should be inherited in EVERYTHING? |
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| 23:04.25 | Vanfanel | bzed: It's Raspbian, running on the Raspberry Pi with the on-board audio. If that SOC has hardware mixing, I'm the poppe :D |
| 23:04.25 | mr`spock | even a non-login, non-interactive session? |
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| 23:05.07 | Shinobi | Is the update-smart-db command included in smartmontools for wheezy? It was omitted in Squeeze? |
| 23:05.38 | Han | sound is distorted with the latest vlc. |
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| 23:05.55 | JackTheRipper3 | The other mail server will not work with anope irc services |
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| 23:07.05 | JackTheRipper3 | Does postfix us sendmail> |
| 23:07.08 | JackTheRipper3 | Does postfix us sendmail? |
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| 23:10.27 | Lady_Aleena | I've been having such a bad day, I'm not trusting my paltry computer skills right now. |
| 23:10.40 | Vanfanel | Anyone with reasonable ALSA knowledge around, please? |
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| 23:13.02 | peterrooney | !ask |
| 23:13.02 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 23:13.14 | mr`spock | Vanfanel, i don't know what the problem is, but try to renice alsa to like -17 |
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| 23:14.19 | peterrooney | Vanfanel: you would be better served in #raspbian - "/msg dpkg based on debian" for a detailed explanation why. |
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| 23:15.02 | Vanfanel | mr`spock: why should I renice ALSA? :D That's nonsense :P |
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| 23:15.27 | Vanfanel | peterrooney: They don't seem to have any ALSA experts there right now... |
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| 23:15.30 | mr`spock | haha it's what i had to do when i was younger to get the audio in my old computer to not cut out |
| 23:15.33 | reavengrey | u scared |
| 23:15.35 | bzed | Vanfanel: thats not nonsesnse. |
| 23:15.40 | reavengrey | ur just not man enough |
| 23:15.55 | tremon | Vanfanel: try #alsa |
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| 23:17.12 | Vanfanel | tremon: I'm there, too. But that channel is always totally silent... |
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| 23:17.53 | tremon | Shinobi: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/smartmontools, see list of files |
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| 23:19.38 | Shinobi | tremon: cool. Do you know how long it takes to do a dist upgrade from squeeze? |
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| 23:20.47 | tremon | could be 15 minutes, could be 4 hours. Depends on number of installed packages, internet bandwidth, debconf priority level and machine performance |
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| 23:22.40 | Shinobi | tremon: ok. Does it keep most of your stuff in tact? Do I have to reconfig everything like ssh, smartmon, openvpn, etc? |
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| 23:24.45 | tremon | all configuration will remain. Some applications might lose or gain features in their newer versions. See the release notes |
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| 23:25.27 | tremon | !tell Shinobi about release notes |
| 23:25.35 | tremon | !tell Shinobi about squeeze->wheezy |
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| 23:26.04 | peterrooney | Shinobi: highly entrenched software (e.g. ssh) is unlikely to change config formats; chasing-the-bleeding-edge-software is anybody's guess (e.g. php). |
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| 23:29.22 | Shinobi | peterrooney: This machine is about stability, my VMs are about bleeding edge. I just want my ssh, mdadm, openvpn, smartmontools, etc to stay the way they are and not have to go through reconfiguring them all again. |
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| 23:30.00 | Shinobi | vbox is about as advanced as it gets |
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| 23:32.33 | peterrooney | Shinobi: the squeeze->wheezy upgrades I went through involved ssh, mdadm, and smartmontools and nothing snuck up on me. Can't speak about openVPN without leading you astray. |
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| 23:33.07 | Shinobi | peterrooney: Fair enough. Thanks |
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| 23:36.38 | FerkSwe | Evening folks. Helping a fellow troubleshoot and I myself run centos. So, anyone know a quick command to check what user a process is running under? |
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| 23:40.03 | dondelelcaro | FerkSwe: ps -f -p pid; will tell you. man ps; for details. |
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| 23:41.03 | Shinobi | I tried hibernating on my tower machine (Squeeze) and it doesn't work. It's AHCI enabled. Do I need to install the hibernate package? Seems odd I would have to install a package for core functionality... |
| 23:41.39 | FerkSwe | dondelelcaro Thanks! Same as centos. |
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| 23:54.45 | statu | Hi! I need a newer version of libc6 than the repository one. I looked for a backport package of libc6 but it doesn't exists. It is possible to install it? |
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