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| 00:00.36 | drasko | hi all. apt-cache show linux-image-3.10-3-amd64 gives me information Source: linux. How to see which version of linux wil "apt-get source linux" pick? |
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| 00:01.02 | bbtech_ | I have a logitech webcam pro 9000. The video works fine...how do I get the mic to work? I'm not sure where to start. |
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| 00:02.54 | acu | drasko: you are using what OS ? |
| 00:03.10 | drasko | jessie |
| 00:03.12 | acu | bbtech: what OS do you use, what desktop environment and what application |
| 00:03.29 | drasko | why? Should be the same on all Debians |
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| 00:03.54 | acu | Why don't you answer the question so I can help you ? |
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| 00:04.56 | acu | In fact that how your questions should start - state your OS version - what do you try to do - what is the error etc |
| 00:04.59 | acu | !question |
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| 00:05.07 | acu | !questions |
| 00:05.08 | dpkg | Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with helpers. Also ask me about <reportbug>. |
| 00:05.17 | drasko | acu, because it does not make sense. There is really need for formalities |
| 00:05.26 | drasko | it has to be apt-cache show... something |
| 00:05.36 | drasko | I am using jessie as I explained |
| 00:05.59 | thnee | During install I chose automatic partitioning with LVM and encryption. After a long while it failed saying "An error occurred trying to erase the data on hdd0". But for some reason the installation contined and the system booted. How can I verfy that the LVM installation is working properly? |
| 00:06.03 | drasko | drasko@Mali:~/test$ uname -a |
| 00:06.03 | drasko | Linux Mali 3.10-3-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.10.11-1 (2013-09-10) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 00:06.06 | acu | drasko: I was talking to bbtech |
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| 00:06.33 | drasko | ;) |
| 00:06.38 | eb0t | i have looked a debian wheezy and have installed atftp server....but apparently it needs some serious configuration to work |
| 00:06.52 | eb0t | i cant find the config for atftp server on debian site |
| 00:06.57 | eb0t | any ideas |
| 00:07.00 | acu | thnee: there is a desktop application gnome-system-lvm - do not remember exactly - that is one |
| 00:07.14 | acu | or just disk utilities |
| 00:07.18 | acu | in gnome too |
| 00:07.32 | LtL | eb0t: /usr/share/doc/atftp maybe |
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| 00:08.34 | acu | drasko did you do aptitude search linux ? |
| 00:08.47 | acu | aptitude search |
| 00:08.50 | acu | !aptitude |
| 00:08.50 | dpkg | i guess aptitude is a terminal-based package manager that can be used in a command-line mode (aptitude install foo ; aptitude remove goo) as well as a text user interface mode (just run "aptitude"). Ask me about <why aptitude> <why not aptitude> <aptitude-fu> <aptitude docs> or see http://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude or http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
| 00:08.58 | drasko | acu, no, apt-cache search |
| 00:09.13 | drasko | and apt-cache show and showpkg |
| 00:09.48 | thnee | acu: system-config-lvm shows nothing weird. And again, the system is booting fine. But this error worries me.. something did go wrong but I have no clue what |
| 00:10.06 | acu | thnee: install gparted - gui |
| 00:10.21 | acu | the disk utilities will show if there are hard disk errors |
| 00:10.26 | thnee | acu: google "An error occurred trying to erase data on" gives me nothing useful... |
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| 00:10.37 | acu | there are others -depends on the file system you use ? ext4 xfs ? |
| 00:11.00 | acu | thnee: there is a /var/log/error - a bunch of them look at them |
| 00:11.07 | acu | dmesg helps too |
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| 00:12.16 | acu | !logs |
| 00:12.16 | dpkg | Logs are what you should always check when you have a problem, they live in /var/log/ . For #debian logs, ask me about <irclog>. |
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| 00:12.44 | thnee | acu: for some reason dmesg says nothing about lvm, but I configured lvm.conf to log to /var/log/lvm2.log and there appears to be no errors |
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| 00:14.01 | thnee | default file system, so ext4 I guess |
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| 00:14.21 | acu | thnee: is tough to troubleshoot - I have to go too - but first you should do what I asked you - disk utilities - lvm-system whatever - that you have some missaligment or some partition you added that were not right etc |
| 00:14.45 | acu | /var/log |
| 00:14.50 | thnee | I juts don't understand why the installation would even continue if there is an error with the automatic partitioning... |
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| 00:14.56 | jenia_ | hello everyone |
| 00:15.30 | jenia_ | i want to install a program from source into my system |
| 00:15.35 | thnee | acu: yeah ok, thanks |
| 00:15.45 | jenia_ | what i plan to do i chroot a directory and install the program there |
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| 00:16.00 | acu | thnee: if you are not familiar how to setup lvm - I would not use it during install - there are few things you need to know - how to add volume group and lvm - how do you assign to physical drives etc |
| 00:16.12 | jenia_ | but it needs libraries to run, so can i do symbolic links to the /etc /bin and so on folder for that program? |
| 00:16.24 | acu | you can install debian normally - and have two hard disks extra and play with them after install |
| 00:16.39 | thnee | acu: I just chose the automatic lvm and encryption because I am required to have hdd encryption.. I thought it would just work |
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| 00:17.19 | jenia_ | well no to /etc/ but to you know /mnt/etc/somelibrary ---->/etc/somelibrary |
| 00:17.48 | acu | thnee: you need some basic understanding - both lvm and encryption are abstractio layers - and it may not "just work" - that is all |
| 00:17.53 | jenia_ | /mnt/bin/myprogram.o is the entry point to the program (where the main is) |
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| 00:18.27 | acu | do it one at the time - learn about them - then redo it - what exactly did you encrypt etc ? |
| 00:18.37 | thnee | acu: I realize it's good to have some knowledge about the system, but youre kind of contradicting the installer, because it has a completely automatic option :) |
| 00:19.33 | acu | thnee: not at all, the installer requires the person to have some knowledge - it is way easier than before - but what you are trying to do is not a routine |
| 00:19.49 | acu | !encryption |
| 00:19.50 | dpkg | Encryption is useful to keep data protected on your system. There is a nice guide on how to use LVM encrypted partitions at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/469 . See also <dm-crypt>, <ecryptfs>, <encfs>, <gpg>, <luks>. |
| 00:19.58 | acu | !lvm |
| 00:19.58 | dpkg | [lvm] the Linux Logical Volume Manager (http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/). Resources: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/, <lvm_tutorial>, <lvm removedisk>, <lvm movelv>, <install using lvm>, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/410, http://sources.redhat.com/lvm2/wiki/ IRC: #lvm on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 00:20.55 | acu | !gateway |
| 00:20.55 | dpkg | gateway is probably The computer or device onto which the first hop needs to go to get out of your network. As you know a TCP/IP route uses many hops to get from here to there. or the name of a computer company that is making a new amiga OS that nobody knows anything about. |
| 00:21.01 | thnee | maybe I should just set up ecryptfs without lvm |
| 00:21.53 | acu | thnee: I would read for 20 min each of the links above - then do it - but yes - just go first with one at the time - again - encryption is an abstraction layer |
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| 00:22.40 | wald0 | how i can run a cronjob that should be run at every rebooted state? there's the @reboot macro but it doesnt works for the cron system of debian ? |
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| 00:25.22 | wald0 | ah, nm, i need to use the full PATH |
| 00:28.46 | Mysterytrain | quick question: can you hold back certain optional packages during the debian_installer process. |
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| 00:30.51 | acu | Mysterytrain, you can choose expert install during installation - or basic (do not choose desktop etc) and install whatever you want later |
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| 00:31.09 | Mysterytrain | ok, will do it that way |
| 00:31.26 | Mysterytrain | probably easier to finetune after install anyway |
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| 00:44.57 | eb0t | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:44.58 | eb0t | thanks |
| 00:45.49 | LtL | eb0t: you're welcome |
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| 00:52.31 | newblue | after my first reboot in a while I have a new login screen and gnome-shell is using 90%+ of the cpu and making my computer pretty much unusable (I'm typing this from my backup). Googling turned up that it might be gnome-shell-system-monitor-applet-git. I run Openbox, I'm very confused. |
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| 00:55.26 | daniel-s | I can't find the libgio package. Is it just bundled with glib on debian? |
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| 01:07.26 | eb0t | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.28 | eb0t | mandb |
| 01:08.59 | drasko | hi all. What is the best debian kernel development process - I'd like to avoid make-kpkg clean every time to speed up kernel build |
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| 01:11.43 | eb0t | i have no man pages for xinetd or inetd |
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| 01:11.47 | eb0t | any ideas why |
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| 01:14.45 | newblue | is it possible to run apt-get from a tty? I'm not sure how to bring up networking |
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| 01:18.59 | ratcheer | newblue: Of course you can. |
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| 01:20.03 | newblue | how? apt tries but can't connect, and my ifconfig-fu isn't strong enough |
| 01:22.11 | ratcheer | newblue: I'm not sure. I can boot to multi-user mode with no X running, and my network is up. |
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| 01:23.27 | newblue | ratcheer: I'll keep trying |
| 01:23.45 | eb0t | hey does anyone know how to set up aftpt server |
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| 01:24.01 | eb0t | i think the nsa have deleted all info from whole internet |
| 01:24.04 | eb0t | there is NONE |
| 01:24.25 | eb0t | thats atftp server |
| 01:24.34 | eb0t | not a tftp server |
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| 01:24.49 | eb0t | come on guys rally round and help me out here |
| 01:25.18 | eb0t | come on |
| 01:25.37 | eb0t | give a pointer or maybe its quite possible that nobody knows |
| 01:25.45 | eb0t | as ther is no info out there |
| 01:26.00 | eb0t | i recon al gore has wiped it from the intrnet he designed |
| 01:26.06 | eb0t | invented |
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| 01:26.48 | ratcheer | eb0t: Do "apt-cache search" on xinetd and inetd and see if there are any related documentation packages |
| 01:27.13 | eb0t | ok ill try that....thanks |
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| 01:28.28 | eb0t | hey it came up with something called rlinetd |
| 01:28.39 | eb0t | which may have replaced xinetd |
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| 01:30.03 | drasko | hi all. What is the best debian kernel development process - I'd like to avoid make-kpkg clean every time to speed up kernel build |
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| 01:30.26 | dvs | drasko: make-kpkg works for me. |
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| 01:31.14 | drasko | dvs, so, without cleaning? |
| 01:31.59 | dvs | drasko: No, I start from a fresh directory every time but I used the "localmodconfig" option to cut down the number of modules compiled. |
| 01:32.13 | rtd2 | Are there any security consultants available for work? |
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| 01:34.08 | drasko | dvs, what I really want is to work on a kernel. I can not clean every time I change each line of code |
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| 01:35.17 | eb0t | right it appears that debian uses something called rlinetd INSTEAD IF xinetd |
| 01:35.25 | eb0t | why the heck does it not say that on its website |
| 01:35.34 | eb0t | c'mon why not |
| 01:36.12 | eb0t | there is nothing whatsoever on debian website that points a user of atftp to do configuration in rlinetd |
| 01:36.16 | eb0t | ridiculous |
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| 01:40.20 | eb0t | i cant believe it.....you need a degree in sudodynamicecobionicquarkleptonoidplectronics to use a tftp server on debian |
| 01:40.40 | drasko | anyone have a idea? |
| 01:41.03 | drasko | Best way to work on kernel development with often recompilation, without always cleaning the kernel |
| 01:41.08 | Aaron | hey how come i don't have Sound on my debian virtual box? |
| 01:41.10 | drasko | to speed-up development process? |
| 01:41.42 | drasko | Aaron, alsamixer? |
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| 01:41.57 | eb0t | to be honest aaron ....noone can help you..s.eriously...you got to basically rewrite your kernel |
| 01:42.12 | Aaron | it says pulseaudio |
| 01:42.19 | drasko | F6 |
| 01:42.22 | Aaron | and it has 100 % of the volume limit |
| 01:42.27 | drasko | change card |
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| 01:45.04 | ctmjr | a |
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| 02:01.12 | drasko | What's the best way to work on kernel development with often recompilation, without always cleaning the kernel |
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| 02:26.56 | dgeary2 | attempting to use openvpn via network-manager on debian wheezy. underlying network uses dhcp but does not have default route. getting error 'connection ... failed to activate: (1) Could not find source connection, or the source connection had no active device.' any ideas? |
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| 02:29.11 | xoz | notes that it's been a long time he hasn't visited debian channel... |
| 02:29.31 | NetEcho | is laptop-mode-tools still the best tools to use for power saving options or is there a different package set more suited to debian? |
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| 02:40.08 | dgeary2 | connecting to the vpn works via openvpn without network-manager |
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| 02:40.46 | NetEcho | Also is it possible to install debian to a USB stick from a working debian system without shutting it down? I currently have deb running on a HDD and want to migrate to a USB stick for the install |
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| 02:42.25 | Penix | NetEcho: debootstrap perhaps |
| 02:42.41 | NetEcho | Penix thanks I shall look into it |
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| 02:45.12 | nonconvergent | Hey, I stalled tomcat but I'm having issues with getting eclipse to run it. internet recommended adding myself to the group tomcat7, which i did, but it's still complaining about how it cannot load Tomcat Server configuration. |
| 02:45.22 | nonconvergent | s/stalled/installed/ |
| 02:45.54 | NetEcho | Penix yep looks like exactly what I need |
| 02:46.05 | Penix | cool |
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| 03:06.07 | eb0t | i have got atftpd running |
| 03:06.20 | eb0t | but problem is it puts my files in /srv/atftp/ |
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| 03:07.02 | eb0t | i set up a directory called /tftpboot/ |
| 03:07.17 | eb0t | and expected the files to go there according to ALL info i have managed to find |
| 03:07.28 | eb0t | so was setting up that directory a complete waste of time |
| 03:08.43 | DoverMo | eb0t, library files? |
| 03:08.58 | eb0t | you mean in /usr/doc/ |
| 03:09.04 | eb0t | no its not in there dvoermo |
| 03:09.08 | eb0t | dovermo |
| 03:09.14 | DoverMo | oh |
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| 03:10.01 | eb0t | 4 hours and counting ..and still not found any information on setting it up proper |
| 03:10.08 | eb0t | i may have to settle for what ive got |
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| 03:10.33 | eb0t | at least the files are being transferred...just cant configure it how i want it |
| 03:11.12 | DoverMo | eb0t, perhaps. you can always just make executables pointing to the right parts |
| 03:11.45 | eb0t | last option is im going to alter rlinetd.conf |
| 03:11.56 | eb0t | that is some kind of server management thing |
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| 03:13.29 | eb0t | not been playing with linux long....but im finding out ....ITS REALLY REALLY COMPLEX |
| 03:13.35 | eb0t | and im computer savvy |
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| 03:15.19 | DoverMo | eb0t, indeed. in general if you want a specific folder you have to define where "PATH" is |
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| 03:16.36 | eb0t | yes in this on e...it looks like i have to do a full in depth definition and configuration in rlinetd.conf |
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| 03:16.55 | DoverMo | eb0t, oh O: |
| 03:18.24 | eb0t | i think ive sorted it |
| 03:18.38 | eb0t | it looks like the tftpboot directory is for booting remote systems |
| 03:18.43 | eb0t | not for receiving files |
| 03:18.51 | eb0t | the files are where they should be |
| 03:19.25 | DoverMo | eb0t, makes sense o-o |
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| 03:34.03 | NetEcho | Penix do you know if it's possible to install and configure my wifi while in chroot? |
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| 03:34.15 | NetEcho | once I reboot the system is nowhere near a ethernet cable heh |
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| 03:43.27 | Penix | NetEcho: you'll need to make sure you've got your interfaces file set up properly, and most likely wpa_supplicant configured |
| 03:44.02 | Penix | NetEcho: you'd want to be sure of the interface name though (ethX) |
| 03:44.32 | NetEcho | Penix yea the current system has wpa_supplicant configured |
| 03:44.41 | NetEcho | wlan0 |
| 03:44.45 | eb0t | does anyone know how to stop my atftpd server |
| 03:45.03 | eb0t | i dont want an ftpserver running all night ...only when i use it |
| 03:45.22 | NetEcho | Penix but thanks for that I was trying to remember what I had to configure to get it going last time heh.. wpa_supplicant |
| 03:45.37 | Penix | NetEcho: kernel-wise it should be fine. if the hardware there's it'll be detected and the driver loaded. make sure you've got firmware present if necessary |
| 03:45.41 | NetEcho | and firmware-atheros nonfree |
| 03:45.48 | Penix | cool |
| 03:45.53 | NetEcho | what's the current debian kernel used on stable? |
| 03:46.02 | NetEcho | for apt-get |
| 03:46.03 | Penix | don't forget 'auto wlan0' in interfaces |
| 03:47.04 | Penix | NetEcho: 3.2, I think. check packages.debian.org if unsure |
| 03:47.35 | NetEcho | ty |
| 03:47.48 | NetEcho | w00t chroot time |
| 03:49.33 | niel123 | so I have my minecraft server in a screen session it is the only attached one but I do not see anything |
| 03:51.32 | lugub | niel123: screen attach? |
| 03:51.35 | Penix | eb0t: do you mean stop it from running at boot? |
| 03:52.02 | lugub | I don't use screen sorry, only familiar with tmux |
| 03:53.23 | NetEcho | Penix linux-image-amd64 should work to download the proper kernel right? |
| 03:54.12 | NetEcho | asked and answered. it picked the right kernel :D |
| 03:54.15 | Penix | NetEcho: yes. it's a meta package that will install the latest version |
| 03:54.22 | Penix | in the branch anyway |
| 03:54.32 | NetEcho | yea I just copied over my sources for apt |
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| 03:55.03 | NetEcho | trying to mirror as much as possible to ensure a seemless bootup |
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| 03:58.32 | Penix | hmm. thought you were doing this on a remote system at first.. |
| 03:58.41 | NetEcho | I am lol |
| 03:58.45 | Penix | ah, ok. |
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| 03:58.53 | NetEcho | I'm ssh'd to my server and the usb key is on the server |
| 03:59.16 | NetEcho | : Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168f-2.fw for module r8169 |
| 03:59.30 | NetEcho | so I should install firmware-realtek and then re-install the kernel? |
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| 04:00.25 | Penix | I think I've seen the same thing on a box I have with 8169. don't think I needed it, but don't take my word for it |
| 04:00.26 | LtL | NetEcho: no need to re-install the kernel, install the proper firmware and re-boot |
| 04:00.43 | NetEcho | oh it needs it for this card |
| 04:00.55 | NetEcho | LtL the system isn't even booted yet. it's a chroot to my new install drive |
| 04:01.27 | LtL | NetEcho: ah, i haven't been following, sorry |
| 04:01.31 | NetEcho | np |
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| 04:01.47 | Penix | NetEcho: the kernel module will probe for firmware when loaded, so, no, won't need to reinstall anything |
| 04:01.54 | NetEcho | ah good to know |
| 04:02.38 | NetEcho | what package is wpa_supplicant part of ? |
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| 04:02.52 | Penix | 'wpasupplicant' |
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| 04:03.08 | Penix | NetEcho: dpkg -S <filename> |
| 04:03.09 | NetEcho | ty |
| 04:05.43 | NetEcho | Penix should I be installing grub to /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1? |
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| 04:09.32 | Penix | NetEcho: sdb |
| 04:10.07 | NetEcho | whoops put it on sdb1 |
| 04:10.21 | NetEcho | sdb1 is the only partition though should it be fine? |
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| 04:11.37 | eb0t | hi ...i have been told to find my inet servers config file ...and i dont know where it is |
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| 04:13.09 | gtech | So I'm trying to install debian woody(3.0) into vmware but when I try to partition the vdisk when booting from the iso it says no hard disks are detected, I've followed these instructions: https://communities.vmware.com/message/169656 and still no dice, any ideas? |
| 04:13.17 | Penix | NetEcho: still needs to be sdb for the BIOS/whatever to boot it. you'll only be able to chainload via another bootloader with it on sdb1 |
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| 04:13.38 | Penix | eb0t: /etc/inetd.conf |
| 04:14.07 | Penix | gtech: any particular reason you're using woody? |
| 04:14.31 | gtech | Penix: I'm trying to recreate a buffer overflow vuln in cups 1.1.X |
| 04:15.15 | gtech | Penix: maybe I'll try CentOS |
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| 04:16.11 | Penix | gtech: so, you've tried both ide and scsi controller in vmware? as well as different types of controller chipsets? |
| 04:16.30 | Penix | been so long since I've even thought about bf24 etc. |
| 04:16.46 | eb0t | thanks penix |
| 04:17.14 | Penix | gtech: are you booting a 2.4 kernel? I can't remember if 2.2 was the default for woody |
| 04:18.56 | gtech | Penix: I think so, bf24 command at boot, from what I can tell 2.4 was released around the same time. I haven't tried IDE, SCSI is the recommendation |
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| 04:19.48 | Penix | wouldn't hurt to try. I've never had trouble with ide and vmware |
| 04:19.49 | gtech | Penix: the controlled chipsets are LSI, LSI SAS, and Buslogic correct? |
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| 04:20.06 | Penix | gtech: sounds about right. I'd go with LSI in this case |
| 04:20.20 | gtech | Penix: kk I'll give it another try |
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| 04:26.59 | NetEcho | Penix how do I switch it? |
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| 04:29.49 | Penix | NetEcho: well...if you really want it gone from the partition, you could probably dd some zeroes over the first 512B sector |
| 04:30.00 | Penix | NetEcho: otherwise, just do what you already did, but on sdb |
| 04:30.48 | NetEcho | Penix I installed grub-pc and that's when it prompted me heh |
| 04:30.55 | NetEcho | I tried re-installing it but it didn't prompt me |
| 04:31.07 | Penix | as long as it's installed on the drive's mbr, all that matters is that grub's conf points to a usable kernel image etc. on a readable filesystem |
| 04:31.32 | NetEcho | ok it should be fine then |
| 04:31.34 | Penix | NetEcho: probably need 'grub-install' |
| 04:31.46 | Penix | the command that is |
| 04:31.58 | NetEcho | ok |
| 04:34.45 | NetEcho | running tasksel right now so I'll try that after |
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| 05:38.42 | eb0t | i can shut downt my tftpd process...using kill...but when i try and tftp to the server it starts up again...what can i do |
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| 05:48.52 | NetEcho | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="consoleblank=1" and GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="consoleblank=1" added to /etc/default/grub doesn't seem to be working to blank my console after a short period of time and I'm not sure what to try now to get it to work |
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| 06:23.52 | bullgard4_ | Can you please give me for testing purposes a URL of a Youtube page that uses Flash. |
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| 06:26.42 | indes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0L9H7ig0J4&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLA2170214428CB54A <- flash for me. |
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| 06:29.05 | bullgard4_ | indes: Thank you. |
| 06:29.35 | indes | the video is also about flash. |
| 06:29.37 | indes | ironic, no? |
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| 06:31.29 | lugub | NetEcho: you ran grub-mkconfig right? |
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| 06:34.52 | NetEcho | lugub I ran grub-update wasn't aware grub-mkconfig was needed |
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| 06:38.54 | bullgard4_ | indes: I am using wheezy and Iceweasel 17.0.10 with Sockwave Flash plugin enabled. Iceweasel keeps trying to load the URL the URL you suggested but a throbber keeps spinning. How can I make Iceweasel to load this URL's website? |
| 06:40.05 | indes | does wget or any other http data grabbing mechanism work from your pc? |
| 06:40.18 | lugub | NetEcho: it might not actually - grub-mkconfig is used in arch so I thought it might be the same |
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| 06:41.08 | lugub | NetEcho: as long as the changes are visible in /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 06:41.40 | NetEcho | lugub its ok though the screen times out after about 10 mins anyway and since it'll be sitting idle somewhere it shouldn't pose an issue |
| 06:42.36 | lugub | ah ok cool |
| 06:44.38 | bullgard4_ | indes: '~$ wget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0L9H7ig0J4&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLA2170214428CB54A' woks all right. |
| 06:45.05 | bullgard4_ | s/woks/works/ |
| 06:45.10 | eb0t | right....i can only turn off my tftp server using kill the rlinetd process |
| 06:45.18 | eb0t | does anyone know another way |
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| 06:45.46 | indes | bullgard4_, ironically, I'd attempt at loading the page in iceweasel now with the plugin disabled. |
| 06:46.02 | indes | bullgard4_, I believe going to the page about:plugins will allow you to disable it, |
| 06:46.26 | indes | oh, maybe not. :) |
| 06:46.46 | indes | you could confirm on that page, however, the plugin for flash is loaded and the correct (desired) version |
| 06:48.24 | indes | bullgard4_, why so many clones? nick complete failure! Fout! to disable; MOZILLA_DISABLE_PLUGINS=1 iceweasel -safe-mode |
| 06:48.59 | indes | if you are able to reload the page and see the container, the plug in is preventing it. (for whatever reason) .. if you can't view the page, sans plugin, you have a browser configuration problem. |
| 06:49.09 | indes | from there, ... well, attack the problem. |
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| 06:52.31 | indes | eb0t, whatever launched the tftp service should be the one to kill it.. init.d? inetd? .. ? |
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| 06:54.11 | eb0t | i think its rlinetd that launched it |
| 06:54.20 | eb0t | when i kill rlinetd it closes |
| 06:54.22 | bullgard4_ | indes: I have now disabled the Flash plugin. |
| 06:54.30 | eb0t | but rlinetd can be responsible for other deamons |
| 06:54.39 | eb0t | so its not a good way to close it indes |
| 06:55.09 | indes | bullgard4_; page load successful? |
| 06:55.29 | indes | eb0t, I agree, you would then have to instruct rlinetd to turn it off, ... |
| 06:55.40 | eb0t | if i just kill the tftp process it restarts when a hacker tries to ftp to my machine |
| 06:56.01 | bullgard4_ | indes: Yes. |
| 06:56.33 | indes | bullgard4_, then unfortunately, the flash plugin you have is unable to load the data.. Iceweasel is probably passing the page and not getting a return. |
| 06:56.54 | indes | bullgard4_, I would ensure the flash plugin and iceweasel match (amd64 or x86 builds/binary types) or try a different version of flash plugin |
| 06:57.04 | indes | (probably not what you wanted to hear. :) ) |
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| 06:58.46 | indes | eb0t, in your rlinetd.conf, have you instructed the tftpd command block to end with an exit; ? |
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| 06:59.14 | indes | eb0t, I'm not 100% sure if this will help, but it appears the man(5) rlinetd.conf talks about an exit condition |
| 06:59.29 | indes | which could be what you're looking for.. (someone attempts -> server starts, does something, exits.) |
| 06:59.47 | eb0t | thanks indes |
| 06:59.49 | eb0t | ill look |
| 07:00.33 | indes | I suppose it depends on how that config file is laid out, I don't see a full example here to be sure |
| 07:02.47 | bullgard4_ | indes: (So far with my Debian wheezy all my Iceweasel plugin downloads from Mozilla were successful. ) I need to further investigate on the basis of your help. -- Thank yu very much for your help. |
| 07:02.53 | bullgard4_ | +o |
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| 07:03.47 | indes | bullgard4_, I'm under the assumption the plugin shows up in the about:plugins page |
| 07:04.18 | bullgard4_ | indes: Yes, it does. |
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| 07:05.40 | indes | bullgard4_; which version? |
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| 08:00.46 | NetEcho | how do I check the version of an installed package in repo? |
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| 08:06.02 | iceroot | NetEcho: apt-cache policy packagename |
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| 08:08.15 | NetEcho | iceroot ty also how would I go about nabbing a package from testing? |
| 08:08.34 | NetEcho | I have all the dependancies for it just it's in jessie right now and not stable |
| 08:08.37 | iceroot | NetEcho: you mean how to find the version from testing? |
| 08:09.20 | NetEcho | yea I want to install sabnzbd 0.7.16-1 |
| 08:10.22 | iceroot | NetEcho: packages.debian.org or enable the testing repo and then apt-cache would also find packages from testing (you should pin that repo down, if not it will install all the stuff from testing) |
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| 08:11.01 | NetEcho | iceroot yea exactly why I didn't add it to sources heh |
| 08:11.38 | iceroot | NetEcho: what is wrong with sabnzbplusd from stable? (i am also using that version) |
| 08:11.53 | mumpitze1 | !tell NetEcho about ssb |
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| 09:06.09 | afidegnum | hello good morning all |
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| 09:06.33 | afidegnum | anyone online ? |
| 09:06.48 | babilen | afidegnum: No, you are alone among 1385 people |
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| 09:07.02 | afidegnum | ah, ok, I just want to be usre you are all alive :) |
| 09:07.08 | babilen | !ask |
| 09:07.08 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 09:07.58 | afidegnum | see, I want to know something |
| 09:08.00 | afidegnum | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 09:08.02 | afidegnum | /dev/md2 1897568696 755560 1800422176 1% / |
| 09:08.03 | afidegnum | tmpfs 24779956 0 24779956 0% /lib/init/rw |
| 09:08.05 | afidegnum | udev 24774436 152 24774284 1% /dev |
| 09:08.06 | afidegnum | tmpfs 24779956 0 24779956 0% /dev/shm |
| 09:08.08 | afidegnum | /dev/md1 507736 31183 450340 7% /boot |
| 09:08.22 | babilen | afidegnum: Please use a paste site such as http://paste.debian.net |
| 09:08.31 | afidegnum | oh, sorry |
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| 09:08.48 | afidegnum | I am installing debian |
| 09:09.02 | afidegnum | but I want to find out if it will be installed in all the partitions? |
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| 09:09.22 | afidegnum | or only the one located at /dev/md2 ? |
| 09:09.37 | xand | it'll be installed where you install it to... |
| 09:09.44 | mumpitze1 | afidegnum: only /boot and / are real partitions. the others is in your RAM |
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| 09:10.04 | afidegnum | >>> |
| 09:10.06 | afidegnum | ? |
| 09:10.16 | babilen | afidegnum: There is a step during the installation in which you will setup your disks and define which filesystems will be used for which purpose. It also allows you to define LVM and RAID -- See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition for details |
| 09:10.16 | afidegnum | I don't get it |
| 09:10.40 | afidegnum | ok, thanks checking on that |
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| 09:11.35 | afidegnum | does it mean the system is not partitonned? |
| 09:11.39 | babilen | afidegnum: In Linux *everything* is a file, to the degree that, for example, hardware components are also represented by a file in a virtual filesystem. This filesystem (/dev) is not a real filesystem, but simply provided by the kernel to allow "normal" access to certain devices. |
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| 09:11.55 | babilen | afidegnum: So, you finished installing Debian? |
| 09:12.14 | afidegnum | in fact it's automatically installed via the server admin sisten |
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| 09:12.30 | afidegnum | via rescue system |
| 09:12.50 | afidegnum | by default, it supposed to install d7 but I want to install d6 rather |
| 09:13.04 | babilen | afidegnum: You seem to have two RAIDs - one small for /boot and a large one for / |
| 09:13.05 | afidegnum | it's a system which supposed to have 2 partitions Ibelieve |
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| 09:13.49 | afidegnum | how do I check those please? |
| 09:13.50 | babilen | afidegnum: I really wouldn't recommend to install any new system with Squeeze. It will only be supported until May next year and you would have to start planning the transition to Wheezy right away. |
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| 09:13.58 | babilen | afidegnum: Check them for what? |
| 09:14.32 | afidegnum | I mean available partitions and their sizes |
| 09:15.06 | babilen | afidegnum: "df -h" might be worth looking at. |
| 09:15.11 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 09:16.08 | babilen | But please note that a RAID is *not* a partition, but a combination of multiple, typically, disks |
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| 09:17.40 | afidegnum | euh... ok, but this is not right! please have a look at this. http://pastebin.com/Qand1PYE |
| 09:17.58 | afidegnum | the system supposed to have 2TB x 2 |
| 09:18.14 | afidegnum | but what I am seeing here is different |
| 09:18.28 | babilen | Didn't I mention http://paste.debian.net ? pastebin.com is a horrible website full of ads that also mangles the input at times |
| 09:18.32 | mumpitze1 | afidegnum: you probably use a RAID1 |
| 09:18.42 | afidegnum | ok ok |
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| 09:20.05 | babilen | But we do not *know* what you use and what you think you should use. As mentioned earlier: A RAID is typically the combination of multiple disks to achieve higher performance and, most importantly, data redundancy such that failures of a single disk wouldn't cause data loss. |
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| 09:21.11 | afidegnum | ok, checking |
| 09:21.23 | babilen | afidegnum: Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID_1#RAID_1 for a discussion of the RAID type mumpitze1 just mentioned. You probably should take a look at the output of "blkid" and your /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
| 09:21.29 | Somefellow | Can anybody link to me a python2.7 install guide that doesnt destroy update-alternatives |
| 09:21.31 | afidegnum | but unfortunately, I can't use paste.debian.net this is what I am getting Your ip (41.207.160.89) is listed on http://www.projecthoneypot.org/. If this was a false positive please contact the admin |
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| 09:22.14 | babilen | Somefellow: python2.7 is available and standard on wheezy, you really shouldn't have to tinker with alternatives. |
| 09:22.46 | afidegnum | I am trying to folow this documentaiton, at http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Betriebssystem_Images_installieren/en |
| 09:22.53 | babilen | afidegnum: You might want to talk to your admin, in that case use http://paste.ubuntu.com or http://refheap.com |
| 09:23.38 | babilen | afidegnum: didn't you already finish following that, given that you are running Debian already? |
| 09:24.04 | afidegnum | yes |
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| 09:24.20 | Somefellow | Which ones wheezy? I have 6.0 |
| 09:24.24 | afidegnum | I just run the installimage as directed, and nothing was changed. |
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| 09:24.52 | afidegnum | but the server come with different flavours and in the selected package, I have 2TB x2 |
| 09:25.17 | afidegnum | but I am seeing only 2TB here it supposed to be 4TB if totalled |
| 09:25.35 | babilen | Somefellow: Wheezy is the current stable release and Debian 7(.2) -- I would recommend to upgrade to it or, at least, start planning your upgrade as Squeeze (Debian 6) will only receive security updates until May next year. |
| 09:25.46 | babilen | dpkg: tell Somefellow about squeeze->wheezy |
| 09:25.50 | babilen | dpkg: tell Somefellow about release notes |
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| 09:27.01 | mumpitze1 | babilen: does debian installer create a LVM or a RAID by default? |
| 09:27.09 | babilen | afidegnum: Yes, our assumption is that two 2TB devices are used to form a single 2TB RAID array. I already asked for additional information (e.g. mdadm.conf), but you would ultimately have to speak to Hetzner about their preconfiguration as this isn't a Debian issue. |
| 09:27.36 | mumpitze1 | afidegnum: hetzner normally does a RAID1. so 2TB is right |
| 09:27.39 | babilen | mumpitze1: No, not at all. It supports configuring RAID and LVM, but would by no means configure something like that by default. |
| 09:27.40 | Somefellow | My host only offers Debdian 5.0 & 6.0 |
| 09:27.49 | afidegnum | yes, I believe |
| 09:28.01 | afidegnum | hold a sec |
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| 09:28.58 | afidegnum | this is what I supposed to have. Hard Drive 2 x 2 TB SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 rpmHDD (Software-RAID 1) |
| 09:29.16 | afidegnum | so meaning RAID1 should be 4TB right ? |
| 09:29.23 | babilen | Somefellow: Then get a new host as Debian 5 has been EOLed long ago and 6 will only be supported for another six months. FWIW, installing python2.7 on Squeeze is not support by us. My personaly recommendation would be to install it manually to /usr/local (and to manage that with stow), remove /usr/local/bin/python and to manage the environment with virtualenv *if* upgrading is not an option. |
| 09:29.58 | babilen | Somefellow: That being said: Running Debian 6 is something that you won't be able to do for long and you *have* to start planning the upgrade to Wheezy (current stable) rather sooner than later. |
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| 09:31.42 | babilen | afidegnum: No, you have two 2TB drives combined into a *single* 2TB RAID1 array. Read about RAID1 and you will understand this. Corroborate that informantion in "blkid", "mdadm -D /dev/md2" and /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
| 09:32.11 | afidegnum | ok, thanks, checking |
| 09:32.24 | babilen | afidegnum: If that is not what you want then you have to talk to Hetzner, but that is our best guess based on the information you make available. |
| 09:32.34 | afidegnum | ok |
| 09:32.43 | mumpitze1 | Somefellow: then ask them how and when they upgrade if it's a VPS or you don't have any power over the kernel used |
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| 09:37.52 | JimLesta | the best way to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy: format and reinstall? |
| 09:38.25 | mumpitze1 | !tell JimLesta about squeeze->wheezy |
| 09:38.35 | JimLesta | thank you |
| 09:38.36 | mumpitze1 | debian users rarely reinstalle JimLesta |
| 09:38.40 | babilen | JimLesta: You can upgrade in place as documented in the release notes. Depending on your customisation that might speed things up or not. It is, generally speaking, the best way. |
| 09:39.05 | JimLesta | ok, thanks |
| 09:39.12 | JimLesta | Simple way to full backup my home dir? |
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| 09:39.39 | mumpitze1 | man cp |
| 09:39.45 | mumpitze1 | or create a tar file |
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| 09:40.11 | JimLesta | tar with all the dot files and folders |
| 09:40.29 | babilen | JimLesta: I would recommend to configure and run dirvish and backup regularly (daily at least) -- but then that isn't necessarily the "easiest" way. See mumpitze1's remarks on copying. You probably want to look into the "-a" (archive) options there. |
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| 09:41.02 | babilen | JimLesta: It shouldn't take you very long to do the former though and you will be able to backup easily and automagically in the future. |
| 09:41.21 | babilen | dpkg: tell JimLesta -about dirvish |
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| 09:41.37 | JimLesta | ok, thanks a lot babilen and mumpitze1 |
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| 09:43.54 | BCMM | is there a huge cursor theme in debian's repos? |
| 09:44.36 | JimLesta | ok, i backup my home > I try uprade to wheezy > if I fail > I reinstall everything |
| 09:45.12 | afidegnum | babilen: I have reinstalled the rescue system again |
| 09:45.15 | afidegnum | please have a look http://paste.ubuntu.com/6462816/ |
| 09:46.14 | afidegnum | these are empty with no OS< |
| 09:46.23 | afidegnum | I think they need to have debian installed in them |
| 09:46.33 | afidegnum | what do you think? |
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| 09:49.13 | afidegnum | hello |
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| 09:50.18 | afidegnum | hi I was disconnected. |
| 09:50.26 | afidegnum | was there any message for me ? |
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| 09:53.59 | mumpitze1 | afidegnum: we think you should read the install guide before you do anything |
| 09:54.04 | mumpitze1 | !tell afidegnum about ig |
| 09:54.14 | Somefellow | mumpitze1, Yeah its a VPS, Do you think this would work? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-debian-linux-upgrade-6-squeeze-to-7-wheezy/ |
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| 09:55.01 | mumpitze1 | I have no clue. ask your hoster and don't follow random howtos |
| 09:55.34 | mumpitze1 | Somefellow: this howto is NOT suitable for you since you run a VPS |
| 09:55.45 | Somefellow | Right |
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| 09:56.34 | Somefellow | So back to the question, Python 2.7 for Deb 6.0? |
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| 09:57.38 | mumpitze1 | Somefellow: not realistically doable |
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| 10:07.24 | Somefellow | shiet |
| 10:07.34 | Somefellow | I seem to remember I somehow had to installed onces |
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| 10:12.18 | babilen | Somefellow: I already addressed that issue. The best way to deal with this is to upgrade to wheezy, but if you are not able to (which is something that *has* to be addressed too) then I would recommend an installation in /usr/local (remove bin/python in there and use stow + virtualenv to manage it) |
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| 10:17.28 | Fossilet | Hi. |
| 10:17.46 | Fossilet | I use dput to upload a package |
| 10:18.33 | Fossilet | but later I received a message telling me that it was rejected because of the following reason:You are not uploading to one of those Debian distributions: experimental .... |
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| 10:19.07 | Fossilet | my command is: dput -f mentors 4digits_1.1.4-1_source.changes |
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| 10:22.16 | Somefellow | So there's isnt a way to side install python 2.7 without touching the original python |
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| 10:28.50 | babilen | Fossilet: You are looking for #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) -- Please also paste your changelog to http://paste.debian.net |
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| 10:29.49 | Fossilet | babilen, ok, I used quantal as the distribution when doing debuild... |
| 10:29.51 | babilen | Somefellow: yes, there is. Install it *manually* (from source) to /usr/local, manage that with stow (/msg dpkg stow usage) and the environment with virtualenv |
| 10:30.18 | babilen | Fossilet: You are building for Ubuntu then, but please .. lets continue this in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
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| 10:30.35 | Fossilet | OK then.. |
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| 10:59.03 | Somefellow | This seems to have worked http://paste.debian.net/plain/67309 |
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| 11:24.44 | eni | hello, has anyone had pulseaudio problems (glitches) when playing audio? (flash/mplayer) |
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| 11:33.31 | hans_henrik | if i want to write stuff to some other process's file descriptor, can i just like fopen "/proc/x/fd/xx" ? |
| 11:34.53 | well_laid_lawn | man fopen suggests it's a c function so no |
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| 11:40.20 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell eni -about pulseaudio |
| 11:40.31 | ectospasm | dpkg: tell eni -about adobe flash |
| 11:40.46 | linu | highest performance GPU for debian. using only software and drivers from wheezy and wheezy-backports (latest backported kernel) using only main and contrib (not non-free) blob free and open source driver only, highest perf card would be the intel HD4000 iGPU right ? |
| 11:41.00 | linu | does that require a proprietary firmware to be loaded ? |
| 11:41.11 | ectospasm | eni: those dpkg factoids should link to FAQs which might contain the answer. |
| 11:41.44 | linu | I wish I wasnt so dumb, so that I knew how to figure out if the HD 4600 or HD 5200 would work too like that lol |
| 11:41.49 | eni | ectospasm, thanks. i'm under ubuntu actually but came here to find some info. I |
| 11:41.53 | eni | I'll have a look |
| 11:42.05 | ectospasm | eni: Ubuntu is not Debian |
| 11:42.22 | linu | Ubuntu is debian + afew more pretty graphics and spyware |
| 11:42.22 | eni | ectospasm, i know |
| 11:42.29 | eni | :) |
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| 11:42.54 | jelly-home | eni: there are significant differences that prevent us from giving relevant advice for that distro |
| 11:43.01 | jelly-home | best ask in #ubuntu |
| 11:43.07 | ectospasm | linu: when you say "highest performance," do you mean 2D or 3D performance? |
| 11:43.34 | ectospasm | !based on debian |
| 11:43.34 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 11:44.08 | ElDiabolo | What time can I expect an RFS to take 'til upload? |
| 11:44.13 | eni | i was in #ubuntu, but people are there more into "click here and here" and at the moment no one was there to help me. |
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| 11:45.07 | lol_ | anyone know wheere the debian checksum file is |
| 11:45.10 | lol_ | can't find it |
| 11:45.13 | linu | ectospasm: well I would be looking at 2D and 3D performance, compositing the desktop, video player acceleration, and native linux 3D games (eg open arena) |
| 11:45.15 | lol_ | on the site |
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| 11:48.49 | linu | oops closed the window by accident |
| 11:49.06 | linu | did anyone say anything about the best graphics card ? |
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| 11:50.45 | ectospasm | linu: I don't know much about Intel chipsets. My understanding of conventional wisdom says nvidia works best for 3D, composoting, etc. And you need proprietary drivers to achieve optimal performance. Maybe that will change in the future, but not so today. |
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| 11:51.23 | linu | ectospasm: yeah true that, dont want an nvidia card though or blob driver cards, so was wondering which one had highest performance with open drivers not blobs : ) |
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| 11:52.49 | well_laid_lawn | intel does 3d ok |
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| 11:53.21 | hamradioking | why is it so hard to find the md5 string on the debian site? |
| 11:53.29 | ElDiabolo | Intel rotates the furry cube with 10f/s on my laptop. |
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| 11:54.00 | linu | well_laid_lawn: yeah it does, I guess I am too dumb though to figure out which is the highest card supported only using wheezy + latest kernel in wheezy backports, and stock wheezy Xorg (no non-free, no testing/sid/etc). The HD3000, HD4000, HD4600 or HD5200 lol |
| 11:54.20 | well_laid_lawn | I can't help there sorry |
| 11:54.37 | linu | yeah im not sure how one would figure that out |
| 11:55.17 | LippyLee | hamradioking, you should be able to retrieve the md5s for the ISOs from any of the Debian mirrors. Or are you looking for something else? |
| 11:55.37 | ElDiabolo | See http://www.ozone3d.net/gpu_caps_viewer/ for the furry cube. |
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| 11:57.34 | piece3 | Hi all, reading on the internet, aparently using phppgadmin on debian, it is only possible to authenticate using one user "www-data" is there no workaround? |
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| 12:23.44 | cyclick | Has chromium in Debian been fixed for Google's NaCl whitelist backdoor? |
| 12:23.55 | abrotman | check the changelog |
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| 12:25.57 | cyclick | ok |
| 12:26.14 | Klaus_Dieter | how can I find out if luks really is using the cryptodev module and the underlying mv_cesa? |
| 12:27.12 | cyclick | it doesn't look like it |
| 12:27.49 | abrotman | do you have a CVE? |
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| 12:28.49 | cyclick | https://cve.mitre.org ? |
| 12:29.07 | abrotman | yes, that's the website |
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| 12:30.14 | cyclick | I guess I need to lookup all CVE ... I was thinking the description in the changelog would include "nacl" or "whitelist" |
| 12:30.23 | abrotman | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/stable |
| 12:30.30 | abrotman | i don't see anything related to the NSA |
| 12:31.17 | cyclick | it doesn't have anything to do with the NSA as far as I know |
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| 12:32.01 | abrotman | oh, sorry, misread above .. anyway, still don't see what you're referencing |
| 12:32.07 | cyclick | I think its a whitelist so that Google could install anything while they were developping NaCl |
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| 12:33.12 | cyclick | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6723827 ... apparently someone checked Debian's chromium source and it includes that code |
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| 12:34.37 | abrotman | did oyu check the BTS? |
| 12:35.27 | cyclick | I will now |
| 12:36.04 | ectospasm | cyclick: if you can't find it, file a report |
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| 12:36.28 | abrotman | with appropriate references please |
| 12:36.34 | cyclick | ok |
| 12:36.49 | abrotman | "you haz backd00r in chromium" isn't so helpful :) |
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| 12:37.27 | cyclick | ok will include everything that we discussed here |
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| 12:39.59 | cyclick | I don't see anything in BTS |
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| 12:48.40 | Klaus_Dieter | ok let me rephrase my question wrt luks: I have a crypted volume in /etc/crypttab and a keyfile entered there. the drive is mounted automatically during init. this seems to happen bevore cryptodev is actually mounted. how can I work around this and make sure that the cryptodev module is loaded before the volumes are mounted such that cryptodev and hardware offloading is actually used? |
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| 12:51.19 | afidegnum | hi all, I am a little confused here, I need ur help... |
| 12:51.49 | afidegnum | on this post http://paste.ubuntu.com/6463444/ on line 23 and 24, I can see the available disks and their sizes |
| 12:52.04 | afidegnum | but when i run df -h, I only see one disk data |
| 12:52.13 | afidegnum | how do I find the data of the second disk ? |
| 12:52.40 | abrotman | it's raid |
| 12:52.49 | mumpitze1 | afidegnum: have you learnt what RAID1 is as you've been told hours ago to do? |
| 12:53.17 | afidegnum | yes, but everything is still not too clear |
| 12:53.35 | abrotman | wha tisn't clear? |
| 12:53.49 | mumpitze1 | raid1 mirrors the data. the SAME data is on 2 harddisks. and it shows as a single hdd for your OS |
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| 12:54.05 | afidegnum | ah, ok, |
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| 12:54.42 | afidegnum | so meaning 2TB is mirrored to the next HDD right ? |
| 12:54.58 | mumpitze1 | yes |
| 12:55.11 | mumpitze1 | and that's why you can only have 2TB to put files in |
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| 12:55.20 | afidegnum | so in conclusion, I should be working with 2TB instead of 4 right ? |
| 12:55.24 | mumpitze1 | yes |
| 12:55.37 | afidegnum | ok thanks for the enlightment |
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| 12:56.33 | tremon | afidegnum: cat /proc/mdstat and learn to read its output. Most importantly, the line md1: active raid1 sda1 sdb1 tells you that md1 is composed of a partition on sda and a partition on sdb |
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| 12:56.50 | Gregor2 | help |
| 12:56.54 | afidegnum | ok, |
| 12:57.24 | tremon | dpkg: help Gregor2 |
| 12:57.26 | Gregor2 | i want to make a script that unzips many zip files at once, thanks! |
| 12:57.33 | afidegnum | but when I run the system rescue installation, I have installed the OS on 2 HDD /dev/sda and /dev/sdb |
| 12:57.46 | afidegnum | I hope everything is still right? |
| 12:57.54 | babilen | afidegnum: You also still haven't pasted the output of the commands I asked you about some time ago. It would probably have helped you to understand the situation. |
| 12:57.56 | themill | Gregor2: are we going to keep doing this every day? |
| 12:58.00 | afidegnum | ok, |
| 12:58.01 | afidegnum | wait |
| 12:58.17 | afidegnum | Gregor2: I have hte script |
| 12:58.21 | afidegnum | wait let me send it to you |
| 12:58.25 | Gregor2 | because i have a folder with 2800 zip files and i want to unpack them all! |
| 12:58.30 | babilen | afidegnum: You should install the system to /dev/md2 with /boot in /dev/md1 (at least that was the configuration earlier) |
| 12:58.52 | babilen | Gregor2: unzip *.zip ? |
| 12:58.56 | afidegnum | well that was the default configuration |
| 12:59.00 | afidegnum | I didn't do anything much |
| 12:59.06 | afidegnum | I only selected the OS image |
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| 12:59.31 | Gregor2 | but how can i unpack so many without doing this for everyone? |
| 13:00.15 | afidegnum | babilen: should I do the reinstallation again ? |
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| 13:00.25 | themill | Gregor2: perhaps you could explain what didn't work about the scripts people wrote for you the previous 4 times |
| 13:00.40 | babilen | heh |
| 13:00.52 | babilen | afidegnum: I have no idea, it's your system! |
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| 13:01.27 | mumpitze1 | afidegnum: what do you think will change _this_ time when reinstalling? from what I remember you did that several times now without any change. remember the definition of insanity? |
| 13:02.01 | Gregor2 | and where is the output dir? |
| 13:02.26 | themill | Gregor2: man unzip is quite clear about this |
| 13:02.32 | afidegnum | mumpitze1: lol, I just want to get it right |
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| 13:02.45 | mumpitze1 | afidegnum: you haven't defined what "right" is yet |
| 13:02.50 | afidegnum | tremon: here is the output of the posted command |
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| 13:03.02 | afidegnum | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6463491/ |
| 13:03.16 | tremon | enjoys seeing a 24G partition for /dev |
| 13:03.18 | afidegnum | no, I mean I don't want to install something that will later bring unsatisfying result later |
| 13:03.37 | afidegnum | tremon: is it ok ? |
| 13:03.46 | mumpitze1 | you haven't defined what an unsatisfying result is either.... |
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| 13:05.01 | tremon | afidegnum: I didn't ask you to paste anything, that bas babilen. I only told you to learn to read that output |
| 13:05.04 | afidegnum | ok now, I understand, for my activities, I have 2TB allocated to me, and I installed the OS into the sda and sdb |
| 13:05.07 | tremon | s/bas/was/ |
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| 13:05.35 | afidegnum | but when i installed the oS I thought the system is going to be operating differntly |
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| 13:05.55 | afidegnum | meaning 2 OS on 2 disks |
| 13:05.55 | babilen | tremon: I asked for some output ages ago - the basic idea was to make the relation between /dev/md? and /dev/sd?? clearer |
| 13:06.35 | afidegnum | babilen: can you please post the commands again? I can't locate them |
| 13:06.41 | tremon | ok, this output should help with that too |
| 13:06.59 | babilen | afidegnum: No idea, you should install a *single* operating system (Debian 7) to a *single* RAID that consists of two disks. |
| 13:07.02 | mumpitze1 | afidegnum: no, you have 4TB allocated but you decided to run a RAID1 |
| 13:07.08 | babilen | afidegnum: It doesn't matter now |
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| 13:08.25 | babilen | afidegnum: You have two physical disks with 2TB each. If you mirror all data from one disk to the other (RAID 1) you will only have 2TB free space left with the benefit that if one disk dies your data is still save on the other disk. It will also allow you to read from both disks simultaneously |
| 13:08.49 | afidegnum | ok, thanks a lot for your help, |
| 13:08.55 | afidegnum | yes I now understand totally that |
| 13:09.07 | afidegnum | that's the principle of RAID :) |
| 13:09.10 | babilen | afidegnum: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID_1#RAID_1 discusses this (I've linked that earlier, not sure if you read it by now) |
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| 13:09.23 | abrotman | babilen: /nick google |
| 13:10.02 | Gregor2 | caution: filename not matched: Zzt (1991)(Epic Megagames Inc).zip |
| 13:10.06 | afidegnum | meanwhile my worry about installing 2OS on the 2 disks is because of directives I got from here. |
| 13:10.08 | Gregor2 | What does that mean? |
| 13:10.08 | afidegnum | http://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Eigene_Images_installieren/en |
| 13:10.22 | Gregor2 | i typed unzip *.zip |
| 13:10.32 | abrotman | Gregor2: you sohuld ask your software company for a valid archive |
| 13:10.48 | babilen | afidegnum: We really cannot tell you what you want to do as you are the only person who knows that. We can, however, help and suggest solutions to actual problems. You might want to consider asking questions such as: What would be the best approach to $FOO? If I want to make $SERVICE available to $NUMBER of users, what would be a reasonable setup? (and so on) |
| 13:10.51 | jelly-home | Gregor2: unzip does not work with multiple files. Use a for loop, |
| 13:11.03 | abrotman | squints at jelly-home |
| 13:11.12 | ones | hihi |
| 13:11.29 | jelly-home | Gregor2: eg. for f in *.zip; do echo unzip "$f"; done |
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| 13:11.57 | Gregor2 | what |
| 13:12.13 | jelly-home | you heard me. |
| 13:12.16 | Gregor2 | and what do i have to type now? |
| 13:13.07 | afidegnum | babilen: the reason why I am jumping from trees to trees is because I want to set the system for small hosting spaces for 20 users and others for personal use |
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| 13:14.13 | babilen | afidegnum: fwiw, I consider using RAID to be reasonable, but you might not want that. |
| 13:14.17 | Gregor2 | at "$f" i have to type the folder? |
| 13:15.00 | abrotman | Gregor2: google "bash for loop" |
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| 13:15.59 | afidegnum | ok, I think I will use it wisely |
| 13:16.26 | afidegnum | so this leads me to ask another question, how do we retrieve data corrupted or loss in the initial disk? |
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| 13:17.24 | tomboy64 | when chrooting into a debian tree, how do i get rid of this? bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (de_DE.UTF-8) |
| 13:17.36 | Gregor2 | ok and why ECHO unzip? |
| 13:17.43 | Gregor2 | what is Echo? |
| 13:18.27 | tremon | tomboy64: unset LANG, probably. type set and look for LANG* or LC_* variables |
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| 13:18.55 | abrotman | Gregor2: please use google, this is a simple question. |
| 13:19.04 | tremon | the other alternative is to use localegen and actually generate that locale |
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| 13:20.20 | tremon | actually, if the system you're chrooting into is debian, you only need to run dpkg-reconfigure locales and select the right locales |
| 13:20.41 | afidegnum | babilen: you there please? |
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| 13:21.02 | tomboy64 | hm |
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| 13:22.37 | tomboy64 | tremon: `LC_ALL="" chroot` did the trick; thanks |
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| 13:22.55 | tomboy64 | oh |
| 13:23.02 | tomboy64 | hmm |
| 13:23.16 | tomboy64 | gonna try localegen - only know locale-gen from my distro |
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| 13:27.33 | tomboy64 | heh, fixed. thanks tremon. |
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| 13:27.58 | jelly-home | Gregor2: echo is there to make the command a no-operation, so you can inspect what would actually be done in advance, before potentially messing things up. When you're sure the commands to be executed are what you want to do, remove "echo" |
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| 13:36.12 | ska | I've given up on pulse, oss, and other sound. Alsa seems to work fine, but needs a bit of tlc.. Less than the others. What do you use? |
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| 13:36.43 | abrotman | !polls |
| 13:36.43 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
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| 13:39.23 | ska | Is there some sound tool that makes audio management easier. abrotman ... |
| 13:39.49 | abrotman | i use alsa/pulse, works fine for me |
| 13:40.42 | ska | I think on workstations its easier, laptops seem to have this dynamic audio card reordering issue. |
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| 13:41.25 | abrotman | I have a laptop |
| 13:41.31 | abrotman | multiple. works fine on all of them |
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| 13:43.31 | ska | abrotman: I guess your just lucky then.. |
| 13:45.08 | abrotman | yes, with multiple laptops, clearly i'm the lucky one :) |
| 13:45.41 | ska | I'm glad we settle this;) |
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| 14:00.20 | Klaus_Dieter | ska: I use pulse. my problem with it is that the rtp-modules do not produce any sound output when I try to stream audio over the network. other than that it does what it is supposed to do. |
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| 14:01.31 | war9407 | is pkg: nulog broken in testing? I have the same problem as this guy: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/package-manager-has-crashed-4175482839/ |
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| 14:04.01 | afidegnum | hi, pls where do I change the hostnme of my server? |
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| 14:04.28 | m1r | afidegnum: check /etc/hostname |
| 14:04.40 | afidegnum | ok |
| 14:04.41 | afidegnum | thanx |
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| 14:09.29 | ska | Klaus_Dieter: I have a USB headset and the order of discovery changes each boot, plus Chromium refuses to work reliably.. I can get everything to work once in a whil, but with pulse, it was quirky and unreliable. |
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| 14:34.53 | war9407 | Does anyone here use a log analyzer for iptables logs (http/graphical results)? |
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| 14:35.46 | abrotman | war9407: please only ask one channel |
| 14:35.57 | afidegnum | hi, pls I changed my hostnamea /etc/hostname with mx.myhost.com and restarted the system |
| 14:36.28 | afidegnum | but when I ran again hostname --fqdn I am told "Hostname or service not known" |
| 14:36.35 | afidegnum | how do I rectify that pls? |
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| 14:37.10 | umarzuki | afidegnum, put only mx in hostname file |
| 14:37.24 | afidegnum | ok |
| 14:37.29 | umarzuki | run "hostname mx.myhost.com" |
| 14:37.43 | umarzuki | then "/etc/init.d/hostname.sh start" |
| 14:37.55 | umarzuki | if i'm not mistaken :D |
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| 14:38.14 | abrotman | /etc/hostname should contain the hostname, see /etc/mailname |
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| 14:40.06 | afidegnum | umarzuki: should i restart the system before or I should apply all the params now? |
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| 14:40.29 | umarzuki | no u should not do that |
| 14:40.45 | umarzuki | try log in and out of console |
| 14:41.05 | umarzuki | hostname on prompt should change to reflects hostname |
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| 14:41.37 | umarzuki | hostname & hostname -f should output "mx" & "mx.myhost.com" respectively |
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| 14:41.51 | afidegnum | ok, |
| 14:41.57 | afidegnum | working on it |
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| 14:43.44 | afidegnum | umarzuki: now I am told "No address associated with hostname" |
| 14:44.08 | umarzuki | check your /etc/hosts too |
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| 14:44.31 | umarzuki | format: IP mx.myhost.com mx |
| 14:44.48 | afidegnum | what I have in hosts is IP myhost.com myhost |
| 14:45.31 | afidegnum | and the IP is the server's IP |
| 14:45.33 | afidegnum | not localhost |
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| 14:45.41 | umarzuki | yes |
| 14:45.55 | afidegnum | is it correct or I should rectify it? |
| 14:46.11 | umarzuki | e.g." 192.168.1.100 is mx IP |
| 14:46.21 | umarzuki | so you should put |
| 14:46.33 | umarzuki | 192.168.1.100 mx.myhost.com mx |
| 14:46.47 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 15:07.28 | afidegnum | umarzuki: are you there please? |
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| 15:07.41 | alpharender | Hi. Is it possible to 'upgrade' stable to sid? |
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| 15:07.50 | alpharender | just change the sources..? |
| 15:07.51 | Razkin | Good morning, gentlemen. |
| 15:07.55 | umarzuki | afigdegnum, yes |
| 15:08.11 | umarzuki | alpharender |
| 15:08.13 | Razkin | I cannot upgrade my distro, can somebody please help. |
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| 15:08.14 | afidegnum | after successfully chaging the hostname, when I login I see root@mx is it correct? |
| 15:08.14 | umarzuki | yes |
| 15:08.18 | alpharender | ok thanks |
| 15:08.25 | Razkin | when I type "apt-get dist-upgrade" it says there is no such thing as apt-get. |
| 15:08.28 | Razkin | I installed debian xfce today. |
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| 15:08.36 | umarzuki | afigdegnum, yes |
| 15:08.37 | Razkin | please help me |
| 15:08.42 | Razkin | umarzuki: please |
| 15:08.47 | afidegnum | Razkin: I think you need to install aptitude |
| 15:08.54 | afidegnum | if I am correct |
| 15:08.55 | Razkin | afidegnum: how plz |
| 15:08.59 | Razkin | plz tell me how |
| 15:09.03 | Razkin | what is aptitude ? |
| 15:09.07 | umarzuki | ran as root? |
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| 15:09.15 | Razkin | i m using debian 4 first time..... |
| 15:09.20 | afidegnum | Heeey |
| 15:09.21 | Razkin | i was big windows user..... |
| 15:09.24 | umarzuki | su -l root |
| 15:09.26 | Razkin | switched 2 debian cuz its secure |
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| 15:09.33 | Razkin | fuck windows!!!!!!! lol |
| 15:09.34 | ratdeptrai | Razkin, afidegnum: no you don't nee aptitude. What _exactly_ did it say? |
| 15:09.50 | Razkin | apt-get: command not found |
| 15:09.54 | Razkin | aptitude: command not found |
| 15:09.57 | Razkin | dpkg: command not found |
| 15:09.57 | dpkg | Have you tried running the command as root? If it still is not found, try apt-get install <commandname>. Solves some problems. see 'hdii' |
| 15:09.58 | abrotman | Razkin: then you're no tusing Debian |
| 15:09.59 | Razkin | su: command not found |
| 15:10.00 | afidegnum | he is using debian 4 |
| 15:10.02 | niko | Razkin: if you continue here i will consider that you don't want to stay on freenode |
| 15:10.05 | Razkin | im using debian 4 |
| 15:10.06 | abrotman | afidegnum: no, he's not |
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| 15:10.11 | afidegnum | why not move the latest stable version? |
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| 15:10.11 | mumpitze1 | Razkin: even on debian 4 there is dpkg |
| 15:10.18 | abrotman | Razkin: please go play elsewhere |
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| 15:10.38 | afidegnum | abrotman: lol |
| 15:10.44 | afidegnum | he is trying not playing :) |
| 15:10.49 | abrotman | no, he's a troll |
| 15:10.53 | alpharender | umarzuki: should deb-src be wheezy or sid? |
| 15:11.04 | alpharender | whats the dif between deb and deb-src? |
| 15:11.15 | abrotman | alpharender: binary vs source packages |
| 15:11.21 | alpharender | oh |
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| 15:11.47 | alpharender | maybe keep the deb binary as wheezy and deb-src for sid? |
| 15:11.57 | alpharender | or all sid? |
| 15:12.11 | abrotman | you don't want sicd |
| 15:12.12 | abrotman | sid |
| 15:12.22 | alpharender | really? why so? |
| 15:12.26 | afidegnum | hi, I am on debian squeeze, I am told to open ports : DNS - 53, SMTP - 25 (TLS - 465), IMAP - 143 (TLS - 993), POP3 - 110 (TLS - 995), FTP -21 |
| 15:12.29 | afidegnum | how do I do that? |
| 15:12.41 | mumpitze1 | afidegnum: there is nothing to open. |
| 15:12.49 | afidegnum | oh, is that so ? |
| 15:12.52 | alpharender | abrotman: I am trying to setup openstack on debian, and says sid repo has the openstack stuff |
| 15:12.53 | abrotman | yes |
| 15:12.56 | tremon | afidegnum: you should never open ports just because ypi |
| 15:13.04 | abrotman | alpharender: sid is not meant for production |
| 15:13.07 | tremon | er, just because you're told to do so |
| 15:13.16 | afidegnum | ok |
| 15:13.40 | afidegnum | I am installing a web management system |
| 15:13.44 | mumpitze1 | afidegnum: there is no packetfilter that blocks anything by default in debian. all you need is to run the daemons which use these ports. however: you are not suitable as a postmaster |
| 15:13.46 | afidegnum | DTC from gplhost |
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| 15:13.52 | afidegnum | and they are they one telling mehtat |
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| 15:14.09 | afidegnum | ok, understood |
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| 15:14.56 | abrotman | afidegnum: and you shouldn't open unsecured ports unles you know what you're doing |
| 15:15.27 | mumpitze1 | he wants to run a AIO "management" system. that statement is redundant |
| 15:16.01 | afidegnum | it's not an AIO |
| 15:16.05 | afidegnum | it's for web hosting |
| 15:16.13 | mumpitze1 | it does mail. and it "manages". it is AIO |
| 15:16.31 | mumpitze1 | mail is not web hosting. or ftp either |
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| 15:16.54 | umarzuki | alpharender, run it on virtualbox then |
| 15:17.18 | afidegnum | ok, ok you are right |
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| 15:18.14 | mumpitze1 | afidegnum: what did you get this rootserver for? |
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| 15:18.42 | afidegnum | for web hosting and personal web application |
| 15:18.44 | afidegnum | s |
| 15:18.48 | afidegnum | appications |
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| 15:21.18 | hurdorbsd | hi |
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| 15:23.57 | giuscri | I need this application (GtkTerm) that should be in Debian's repository, though 'aptitude search gtkterm' returns nothing. Hence I'm trying to install it from source but sounds I need gtk updated at least at version 3. But I have it at version 3 !! |
| 15:24.02 | giuscri | Any suggestion? |
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| 15:24.55 | abrotman | what makes you think it's in Debian? |
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| 15:26.21 | hurdorbsd | apt-get install gtkterm |
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| 15:26.41 | abrotman | brilliant |
| 15:27.06 | giuscri | hurdorbsd: "E: Unable to locate package gtkterm" |
| 15:27.15 | abrotman | giuscri: if you're using wheezy, it's not in wheezy |
| 15:27.16 | giuscri | abrotman: https://fedorahosted.org/gtkterm/ |
| 15:27.24 | abrotman | judd: versions gtkterm --release wheezy |
| 15:27.25 | judd | No package named 'gtkterm' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 15:27.27 | abrotman | judd: versions gtkterm --release jessie |
| 15:27.29 | judd | Package: gtkterm on i386 -- jessie: 0.99.7~rc1-0.2 |
| 15:29.09 | giuscri | abrotman: that means I have to install jessie or --faster-- avoid using repository and building it from source? |
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| 15:29.39 | umarzuki | or backports |
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| 15:30.05 | abrotman | giuscri: backporting is probably better |
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| 15:31.16 | giuscri | that is?... Adding the repository of Jessie in the list of repository aptitute uses? |
| 15:31.47 | abrotman | dpkg: tell giuscri about ssb |
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| 15:47.08 | ghostlines | is there a way to install php5-mysql package without installing apache stuff? |
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| 15:47.41 | ghostlines | I'm trying to install nginx |
| 15:47.58 | abrotman | ghostlines: install php5-cgi IIRC |
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| 15:50.48 | AVRS | Hello. I've converted my MBR into GPT using gdisk (I didn't actually need to; I thought it would make *future* partition edits safer by getting rid of the extended partition's linked list). |
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| 15:51.07 | AVRS | I had to create a bios_grub partition. To make it work, I need to grub-install |
| 15:51.42 | AVRS | It seems like there are no other requirements for that partition from GRUB: it just has to be at least 32 KB. Now it's 167.5 KB. |
| 15:51.52 | AVRS | The problem: |
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| 15:52.25 | AVRS | fsck considers the partition broken whatever-filesystem-I-specify or broken ext2 by default. Debian stops booting. |
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| 15:52.41 | AVRS | gparted shows "/!\" and says file system is unknown. |
| 15:52.56 | AVRS | Is there any danger in that, and how do I fix the fsck problem? |
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| 15:53.14 | tremon | AVRS: you shouldn't try to mount that partition. Remove any references to it from fstab |
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| 15:53.52 | AVRS | tremon: I don't think there are any references to it in fstab, I use UUIDs for everything. |
| 15:54.01 | AVRS | (except for sdb, sdd etc) |
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| 15:54.52 | ghostlines | abrotman, you know any other workaround to force apt to not add unneeded packages when installing php5-mysql? |
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| 15:55.22 | AVRS | tremon: Maybe there is fsck-calling configuration somewhere? |
| 15:55.30 | tremon | fsck only checks partitions listed in fstab. try to blkid that partition, if it detects a filesystem uuid there, zero it (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdNX) and reinstall grub |
| 15:55.45 | AVRS | /var/log/fsck# less checkfs |
| 15:55.46 | AVRS | Log of fsck -C -R -A -a |
| 15:55.53 | tremon | !paste |
| 15:55.53 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 15:56.03 | AVRS | Those are 2 lines. :p |
| 15:56.22 | tremon | ohw. I was expecting so much more ;) |
| 15:56.44 | abrotman | ghostlines: it's not uneeded, it's a dependency, install the right dependency |
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| 15:57.15 | AVRS | tremon: There is nothing else interesting, I think: only an "open: No such file or directory" and the OK filesystems until the failure. |
| 15:57.24 | tremon | AVRS: can you paste the output of fsck -Na |
| 15:57.26 | tremon | ? |
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| 15:58.23 | AVRS | tremon: http://paste.debian.net/67362/ |
| 15:58.35 | AVRS | no that partition |
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| 15:58.56 | AVRS | I'll try -A |
| 15:59.06 | AVRS | also no |
| 15:59.13 | AVRS | will reboot and see if I fixed it for fsck |
| 15:59.21 | tremon | ok |
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| 16:03.13 | AVRS | trem0r: well, thanks |
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| 16:03.25 | AVRS | trem0r: I guess it was trying to check some old versions of /boot which was mentioned by UUID in fstab |
| 16:03.29 | AVRS | *version |
| 16:03.41 | AVRS | I've changed the UUID very recently. |
| 16:04.07 | AVRS | (The fsck log does not show which partition is broken, so I could only guess that it's the one fsck fails at.) |
| 16:04.40 | AVRS | (the former is the one at boot, the latter is when I run it manually) |
| 16:04.59 | AVRS | gparted is still confused though. |
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| 16:05.43 | AVRS | But maybe that's JUST the way it shows there is no fs (the message is talking about that only). |
| 16:05.55 | AVRS | It's me who is confused by gparted's /!\ |
| 16:06.14 | tremon | gparted should detect the partition as a bios boot partition and shouldn't worry about it. Have you given it the correct partition type (ef02 in gdisk iirc)? |
| 16:06.40 | tremon | I never use gparted, can't give you an answer there |
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| 16:08.18 | AVRS | The first column shows /dev/sda2 and then a key for a mounted partition, nothing for an unmounted one, and /!\ for this one. |
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| 16:09.46 | AVRS | The filesystem field shows "unknown". The Information window shows "Warning: Unable to detect the file system! Possible reasons are: The file system is damaged, ... is unknown to GParted, ... no file system (unformatted), The device entry /dev/sda2 is missing |
| 16:09.52 | AVRS | " |
| 16:10.11 | AVRS | Flags: bios_grub. |
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| 16:11.37 | tremon | just ignore it, there's not supposed to be a filesystem on a bios boot partition (at least not with grub, don't know about other loaders) |
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| 16:11.55 | AVRS | I wonder why http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apcs05.html.en says "partman" is the "Recommended partitioning tool in Debian.", but partman is only available as a part of the installer. |
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| 16:12.03 | AVRS | trem0r: ok, thanks |
| 16:12.25 | tremon | watch your completion, you're prodding the wrong bear |
| 16:12.42 | AVRS | ok, sorry trem*r |
| 16:12.46 | AVRS | *oh |
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| 16:13.55 | AVRS | The most confusing part for me was that some partitions had a different sda number in live CD shell and chroot. |
| 16:13.58 | WinstonSmith | AVRS: xchat? |
| 16:14.03 | AVRS | WinstonSmith: irssi |
| 16:14.25 | WinstonSmith | AVRS: probably also has a last-spoke tab completion |
| 16:14.49 | WinstonSmith | slinks away after random comment |
| 16:15.21 | AVRS | thanks WS, will check |
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| 16:17.48 | blubberdiblub | AVRS, do you mean the number after the "sda" part? that may be due to one reading MBR and the other reading GPT (in case you have a hybrid GPT/MBR). |
| 16:18.19 | AVRS | Yes, that number. |
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| 16:18.44 | AVRS | The chroot system complains about /sys and something similar not being available. |
| 16:19.01 | AVRS | But I am not sure there is still an MBR? |
| 16:19.13 | blubberdiblub | AVRS, you are supposed to mount sys, proc, dev etc. there before chrooting into it |
| 16:19.27 | AVRS | oh, ok |
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| 16:20.00 | blubberdiblub | AVRS, especially if you want to reconfigure/reinstall grub inside the chroot, a mounted dev and proc for the chroot is essential |
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| 16:20.25 | AVRS | blubberdiblub: Was it dangerous that there was no? |
| 16:20.35 | tremon | AVRS: yes, gpt partitioning intentionally avoids the first sector so that mbr and gpt partitions can coexist (backwards compatibility and all that). gdisk by default creates a "protective" mbr, with just one partition that spans the entire disk |
| 16:21.05 | tremon | to make sure that non-gpt aware tools don't consider the disk unformatted |
| 16:21.05 | blubberdiblub | AVRS, well, as long as you don't write grub to random places, not having it mounted will probably just throw some errors |
| 16:21.11 | AVRS | The sda<numbers> did not shift though, it seems only some moved to free ones. |
| 16:21.38 | AVRS | And there was more of them. |
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| 16:32.43 | thnee | where did the package python-gnomeapplet go in wheezy? gnome-awesome-applet depends on it, and it appears to be in squeeze, but not in wheezy? |
| 16:33.17 | jamm | i need to add rules for my newly purchased usb modem that i use for internet |
| 16:33.31 | jamm | how to add rules |
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| 16:38.06 | jamm | lsusb shows my device but i guess i need it add its ids in rules so i can use it. but i need to know hiow to add rules. forgot the file that hold all ruules |
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| 16:39.12 | blubberdiblub | jamm, /etc/udev/rules.d/your-local-rules-name.rules |
| 16:39.57 | jamm | anybody there can help me? |
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| 16:40.53 | jamm | yes yes that was the file. thanks |
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| 16:42.22 | jamm | blubberdiblub, i think that is simple, i edit the file and copy paste existing rule and then change newly added line for my usb modem. is that right? |
| 16:43.18 | blubberdiblub | jamm, if you have an existing rule, you can do that. you can also write a rule from scratch, tho, if you like |
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| 17:11.07 | jeeger | Hey, I'm wondering whether there is a bacula client version in debian unstable that has LZO compression enabled. I can't find anything, neither bugs, nor configs that tell me if LZO support is enabled. Where would I find such information? |
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| 17:13.57 | ompaul | !tias |
| 17:13.58 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 17:14.08 | ompaul | jeeger: I guess you need to get stuck into the manual |
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| 17:15.40 | jeeger | ompaul: Sorry, what do you mean? |
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| 17:18.08 | ompaul | jeeger: you were not getting much traction with your question so I was suggesting that you should try it and see |
| 17:18.23 | jeeger | ompaul: what do you mean by "you need to get stuck into the manual"? |
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| 17:18.49 | ompaul | jeeger: read the book / faqs / source code / manual for bacula |
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| 17:19.46 | jeeger | Oh screw it, I'm compiling it myself. All I can find online is "Add LZO build dependency". Maintainer: "nak". |
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| 17:20.02 | ompaul | jeeger: look here http://www.bacula.org/5.2.x-manuals/en/main/main/Configuring_Director.html |
| 17:20.13 | ompaul | jeeger: it is an option |
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| 17:21.33 | jeeger | ompaul: I'm talking about the client (as I said). That is not configurable, and when a backup is made using LZO compression, it needs to be restored with a LZO compatible client. So that won't help me. I've been reading the bacula manual already for setting up my system, and it has absolutely nothing to do with whether the bacula package is compiled to support LZO compression. |
| 17:22.25 | ompaul | jeeger: surely the client just tells the server what to do based on the servers config is (or am I being stupid - really don't know) |
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| 17:33.29 | diazepan | hi |
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| 17:34.47 | diazepan | Someone recommended me a good command line application to connect to a wireless network? |
| 17:35.44 | zykotick9 | diazepan: i use wicd-curses on my netbook... |
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| 17:36.31 | fedelibre | my laptop doesn't suspend anymore on lid close. I'm on debian sid |
| 17:36.52 | fedelibre | I have /lib/systemd/systemd-logind running, but systemd is not set as default |
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| 17:37.16 | fedelibre | what do you recommend? moving to systemd completely? |
| 17:38.06 | jhutchins_wk | fedelibre: I don't think systemd handles the suspend triggers. |
| 17:38.49 | jhutchins_wk | fedelibre: Was there a recent kernel update? |
| 17:39.05 | fedelibre | I read this and it seems so, isnt it? http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/logind.conf.html |
| 17:39.54 | fedelibre | no, it was an update to nome 3.8. I remember I had to install libpam-systemd to work around a problem with gdm3 |
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| 17:40.46 | fedelibre | of course, I meant gnome 3.8 |
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| 17:41.07 | jhutchins_wk | fedelibre: You might get some discussion over on oftc.net at #debian-next. This is mostly just stable support. |
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| 17:41.59 | qu | Very low quality text in XFCE. XFCE was fine in Manjaro and SolydX. Any idea why not in Debian? |
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| 17:44.19 | blubberdiblub | qu, my text is fine under xfce. maybe you want to configure a different font and/or font antialiasing and/or hinting? |
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| 17:44.55 | qu | blubberdiblub: Have antialiasing and hinting as Slight. Was worse before that. |
| 17:45.49 | blubberdiblub | qu, i'm using medium hinting. which font are you using? also check you dpi setting |
| 17:45.52 | qu | Sans font didn't look this bad in other distros. I wonder if it's my video driver? |
| 17:46.06 | qu | DPI=96 |
| 17:46.38 | qu | Medium makes no change. |
| 17:47.07 | blubberdiblub | qu, do you have a screenshot? so we can see what you mean by low quality? |
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| 17:50.54 | blubberdiblub | qu, and i believe "Sans" is no font by itself, it's just an alias for some other font, however i don't know how that alias gets chosen. have you tried DejaVu Sans Book? |
| 17:51.18 | qu | blubberdiblub: http://postimg.org/image/940egz2oh/ |
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| 17:52.08 | blubberdiblub | qu, yeah, it's missing antialiasing |
| 17:52.22 | thnee | I am getting "Agent admitted failure to sign using the key." even after doing ssh-add. What could be wrong? |
| 17:52.45 | blubberdiblub | qu, you may need to log out of xfce and back in after setting the check mark |
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| 17:53.35 | qu | blubberdiblub: Indeed it is off. K, I'll restart X. |
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| 17:59.25 | blubberdiblub | qu, did the font rendering improve? |
| 17:59.48 | qu | blubberdiblub: O, that is much better. Thanx. |
| 18:00.55 | blubberdiblub | qu, you're welcome :) also, the hinting may have a more noticable effect now that antialiasing is on |
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| 18:02.10 | qu | I guess I like Slight best. Amazing how that works now that it's turned on... |
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| 18:07.58 | sajjadg | hey guys |
| 18:08.21 | sajjadg | I can't change my layout to arabic and farsi in debian from terminal |
| 18:09.19 | sajjadg | I can add and change layout from gnome-shell setting |
| 18:09.31 | sajjadg | but I can't change it from terminal |
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| 18:11.41 | sajjadg | I can't see farsi and arabic in /etc/locale.alias |
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| 18:11.54 | sajjadg | any suggestion |
| 18:11.55 | sajjadg | ? |
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| 18:14.44 | blubberdiblub | sajjadg, do you mean the linux console? or a terminal emulator? some terminal emulators support right-to-left scripts, but i believe the linux virtual console doesn't natively support right-to-left scripts. you might need some supplemental app for that |
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| 18:17.14 | sajjadg | blubberdiblub, I mean Farsi layout that is in /etc/default/keyboard |
| 18:17.19 | blubberdiblub | sajjadg, for just the locale setting, fa_IR.UTF-8 should do. you don't necessarily need an alias |
| 18:17.33 | sajjadg | I changed it by setxkbmap ir |
| 18:17.46 | sajjadg | my problem was that i was using fa instead of ir |
| 18:17.53 | sajjadg | strange... |
| 18:18.10 | sajjadg | it's country name not the language |
| 18:18.17 | sajjadg | like us not en |
| 18:18.21 | sajjadg | en_US |
| 18:18.28 | sajjadg | pitfall |
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| 18:19.34 | Lorcatar | Hola ;) |
| 18:19.35 | sajjadg | the problem is that when I change it then I can't type english :D and shortcuts and hotkeys don't work. I can't ctrl+c , etc. |
| 18:19.54 | sajjadg | let me see if I can define a hotkey for it |
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| 18:35.38 | chomwitt_ | whos job is to control is a greek letter typed to a xterm (eg: echo 'α´) will be encoded with 1byte or 2bytes(utf) ? |
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| 18:42.49 | Danic | Hi, I just installed backup-manager in Wheezy. An error got me wondering: Is there no syslog service installed by default? |
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| 18:43.39 | acu | Danic: do not get exactly what you need - /var/log has a lot of logs |
| 18:43.42 | acu | !logs |
| 18:43.42 | dpkg | Logs are what you should always check when you have a problem, they live in /var/log/ . For #debian logs, ask me about <irclog>. |
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| 18:44.21 | acu | however each application has ways to log in detail different processes |
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| 18:44.47 | Danic | The error is: no connection to syslog available /dev/log is not a socket. I tried to restart sysklogd, but it's not on the system. |
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| 18:45.44 | Danic | does that clear up my question, acu? |
| 18:46.09 | qu | Anyone know when systemd is coming? |
| 18:46.42 | jhutchins_wk | Danic: Try service rsyslogd restart |
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| 18:47.20 | blubberdiblub | jhutchins_wk, Danic, without the d at the end, tho |
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| 18:47.44 | Danic | jhutchins_wk, nope, don't have that script |
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| 18:48.23 | jhutchins_wk | Danic: dpkg -l | grep log |
| 18:48.39 | jhutchins_wk | Danic: We assume that because the socket doesn't exist it's not running. |
| 18:48.43 | blackjack | guys is debian one of the most stable linux salts, ever? or are they all equal.. (im saying like stable, like the BSDs) |
| 18:48.49 | acu | OK -so I have three commands - of which effects I want to make permanent - 1 iptables -A INPUT -i tun+ -j ACCEPT -------2) iptables -A FORWARD -i tun+ -j ACCEPT ----- 3) this one should have been taken care - but perhaps is not ---echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ----- |
| 18:49.18 | Danic | jhutchins_wk, returns only those packages: dialog login logrotate sgml-basewhiptail xml-core |
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| 18:49.55 | acu | blackjack, what exactly you need to know ? Debian - was the "standard" for stability |
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| 18:50.16 | Danic | acu, I thought it still is?! :) |
| 18:50.21 | zykotick9 | blackjack: debian "stable" is like a rock. acu "was"? |
| 18:50.21 | jhutchins_wk | Danic: Well, obviously you could install one of the log daemons. Do we care how it got this way? |
| 18:50.34 | blackjack | just want to be sure im picking the right server for the job. |
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| 18:51.14 | acu | OK, it is still stable - RHEL 6 (Scientific Linux - Centos) they are stable too - and I suppose suse also - did not use it long enough to get proper conclusions |
| 18:51.37 | Danic | jhutchins_wk: Got the VPS with Debian 6 and did a dist-upgrade to 7. Then I installed backup-manager. That's all. What log deamon should I install? |
| 18:51.43 | Danic | What's the default on Wheezy? |
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| 18:51.54 | jhutchins_wk | blackjack: The RHEL derivitaves can be very stable, they tend to be supported a LOT longer than other distributions. |
| 18:52.27 | jhutchins_wk | blackjack: Debian is more stable as in less likely to fail, but is only supported for three or four years. |
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| 18:52.58 | acu | At this point - Debian has the most modern - later kernel of the STABLE - major distros blackjack |
| 18:53.24 | blackjack | how about comparing it to centos? |
| 18:53.29 | blackjack | i just wonder |
| 18:53.38 | jhutchins_wk | blackjack: CentOS is RHEL recompiled. |
| 18:53.41 | acu | very vaque - what do you want ? |
| 18:54.14 | acu | I have centos servers running for years - and so debian |
| 18:54.23 | blackjack | acu. thats all i have to know. some kind of a background to it:) |
| 18:54.29 | blackjack | before deciding. hehe |
| 18:54.53 | acu | blackjack, I use mostly debian - I have 4 years old servers running 24/7 |
| 18:54.55 | ChibaPet | blackjack: Debian and CentOS are both pretty stable. |
| 18:55.18 | ChibaPet | blackjack: You should be describing the taskload. That might suggest one or the other. |
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| 18:56.42 | acu | blackjack, but Debian community is far more organized and helpful - is an OS own and driven by humanknd at large |
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| 18:57.45 | acu | though rhel chatroom has among the best and most knowledgeable tech people I know |
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| 18:58.02 | jhutchins_wk | I have one that's been running since before 2008. (Was etch, then etch-n-half.) |
| 18:58.54 | Danic | What syslog service is the default on Wheezy? I want to reinstall the default one. |
| 18:59.08 | jhutchins_wk | Danic: rsyslog |
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| 18:59.25 | Danic | jhutchins_wk, thanks. |
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| 19:18.59 | rryoumaa | what does this mean? "mtp-probe: bus: 1, device: 20 was not an MTP device" |
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| 19:19.27 | n0c | i've seen that a lot |
| 19:19.30 | n0c | when i plug my phone in |
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| 19:20.12 | rryoumaa | my trackball works sometiems and does not work sometimes. thought it might be related. |
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| 19:26.48 | Danic | jeeezus, I just discovered a bug in backup-manager ... |
| 19:27.21 | Danic | and i was already oubting my sanity |
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| 19:36.17 | woshty | Does squeeze still get updates? |
| 19:36.47 | zykotick9 | woshty: for a few more months is all |
| 19:37.32 | woshty | zykotick9: is there a certain date? |
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| 19:38.07 | blackjack | guys what is the one line command to check all security and package updates? |
| 19:38.07 | zykotick9 | woshty: i'd think so... but sorry don't know where to suggest looking... search online is all i got, sorry. |
| 19:38.10 | blackjack | and upgrades |
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| 19:38.54 | zykotick9 | woshty: informally, oldstable is supported for one year after the new stable is released |
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| 19:40.59 | Tylertwo | blackjack, could you elaborate on what it is you want to do? |
| 19:41.57 | Tylertwo | blackjack, you may be looking for 'apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade' |
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| 19:42.16 | blackjack | oh yeah that one |
| 19:42.17 | blackjack | thanks |
| 19:42.42 | woshty | zykotick9: thank you |
| 19:42.44 | Tylertwo | np |
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| 19:46.33 | drasko_ | HI all, I am trying apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 19:46.44 | drasko_ | however, E: Unable to locate package kernel-headers-3.10-3-686-pae |
| 19:46.55 | drasko_ | What can I do to resolve this problem? |
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| 19:49.43 | Danic | I am trying to install "http://packages.debian.org/de/wheezy/teamspeak-server" and already added the non-free source "deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy non-free". Still, the package does not show up. Why? |
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| 19:51.04 | zykotick9 | Danic: did you "apt-get update"? |
| 19:51.18 | Danic | I am using aptitude, but I did update. |
| 19:51.54 | Danic | I see teamspeak-client tought, but that's not what I want :D |
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| 19:52.44 | zykotick9 | Danic: i checked on my non-free wheezy box, and teamspeak-server is in non-free (i wanted to confirm it wasn't in contrib or something)... best of luck. |
| 19:53.12 | drasko_ | HI all, I am trying apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 19:53.14 | drasko_ | however, E: Unable to locate package kernel-headers-3.10-3-686-pae |
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| 19:54.04 | Danic | zykotick9, could you show me your line in sources.list? maybe I missed something. |
| 19:54.09 | zykotick9 | drasko_: what debian are you tracking exactly? did you get the package from backports or another repo? you might have to specify that "other" repo - IF that's the issue/case. |
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| 19:54.27 | drasko_ | Zyf_Too, no, jesse |
| 19:54.29 | drasko_ | standard |
| 19:54.44 | drasko_ | Marx:/home/drasko# uname -a |
| 19:54.45 | drasko_ | Linux Marx 3.10-3-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.10.11-1 (2013-09-10) i686 GNU/Linux |
| 19:54.57 | zykotick9 | drasko_: i wouldn't know then... good luck. |
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| 19:55.18 | drasko_ | zykotick9, can I force kernel upgrade then? |
| 19:55.25 | zykotick9 | Danic: nothing out of the ordinary - deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 19:55.50 | zykotick9 | drasko_: as i just said, i wouldn't know. i don't use testing/sid sorry. |
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| 19:56.38 | Danic | zykotick9, hmm. And you find that "teamspeak-server" package? |
| 19:56.50 | zykotick9 | Danic: ya... |
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| 19:56.54 | Danic | wtf? |
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| 19:57.47 | zykotick9 | Danic: http://paste.debian.net/67391/ |
| 19:57.47 | drasko_ | http://packages.debian.org/jessie/linux-headers-3.10-3-686-pae |
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| 19:57.53 | drasko_ | package is missing |
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| 19:58.04 | drasko_ | and this is the official jessie kernel |
| 19:58.10 | NetEcho | Danic I however do not |
| 19:58.15 | drasko_ | what the hell is happening... |
| 19:58.54 | Danic | Ahhh! |
| 19:58.59 | Danic | I have amd64, could it be? |
| 19:59.05 | NetEcho | Danic I do as well so maybe |
| 19:59.16 | NetEcho | deb http://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib <-- is my source entry |
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| 19:59.37 | Danic | zykotick9 has an x86 |
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| 19:59.46 | zykotick9 | Danic: have you enabled multiarch yet? that might be the issue? |
| 19:59.58 | NetEcho | zykotick9 how do you do that? |
| 20:00.07 | Danic | zykotick9 I am not familiar with that setting. |
| 20:00.39 | NetEcho | Danic that makes complete sense as they only release it as x86 iirc |
| 20:00.49 | zykotick9 | Danic: ;) if you install the wine64bit package, it's just an instructional thing to enabling multiarch (FYI i have NO idea if it'll even help with YOUR issue?!?) |
| 20:01.33 | NetEcho | Danic you could always try manually downloading the .deb and installing with dpkg -i or compiling from source |
| 20:01.55 | Danic | Thanks NetEcho, I think I go with that. |
| 20:02.06 | NetEcho | let me know how it turns out!~ |
| 20:02.07 | Danic | zykotick9, hmm, I rather don't wana do that, but thanks! :D |
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| 20:03.03 | zykotick9 | Danic: mind if i PM you for a second? |
| 20:03.14 | Danic | zykotick9 go ahead |
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| 20:33.21 | Mr_Queue | Anyone clone a partition table on a large drive? |
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| 20:33.40 | Mr_Queue | I'm looking for info on how to do it, sfdisk can't apparently. |
| 20:34.02 | Mr_Queue | sdb failed out of my array this morning and I'm trying to get it rebuilt back in |
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| 20:34.58 | Mr_Queue | http://paste.debian.net/plain/67399 |
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| 20:37.15 | magnulu | running wheezy, having trouble making my openvpn (client) connect at boot.. init scripts are right, and I cannot see anything in the syslog |
| 20:39.43 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, you can copy the first 34 512-byte-blocks from the first drive to the second with dd and then run gdisk on the second to rebuild the backup partition table on the end of the drive |
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| 20:43.26 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: Read that and then found sgdisk. I still seem to be missing something here. |
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| 20:44.17 | Mr_Queue | From what I can tell I have cloned the table fine, mdadm doesn't seem to think so however. I'm out of ideas and reading whatever I can. |
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| 20:45.38 | Mr_Queue | /chttp://paste.debian.net/plain/67402 |
| 20:45.45 | Mr_Queue | That looks by the book to me. |
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| 20:48.07 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, you need to read the disk back in to make the kernel detect the partitions |
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| 20:48.23 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, sfdisk -R /dev/sdb should do the trick |
| 20:48.23 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: how so? sync? |
| 20:48.34 | Mr_Queue | okay, let me try that. |
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| 20:49.17 | Mr_Queue | [root@node ~]# sfdisk -R /dev/sdb |
| 20:49.17 | Mr_Queue | [root@node ~]# mdadm /dev/md2 -a /dev/sdb2 |
| 20:49.17 | Mr_Queue | mdadm: cannot find /dev/sdb2: No such file or directory |
| 20:49.28 | Mr_Queue | humm.. |
| 20:49.52 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, what does the end of dmesg say? it should list the detected partitions |
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| 20:50.16 | Mr_Queue | unknown partition table.. |
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| 20:50.30 | Mr_Queue | Which is not what I get from results of commands.. |
| 20:51.09 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, what if you dd the partition table instead and then run sgdisk -G on it? |
| 20:51.32 | Mr_Queue | I'll try that next, I'm curious if a reboot picks it up. |
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| 20:52.13 | Mr_Queue | brb |
| 20:52.29 | blubberdiblub | i suspect it won't if sfdisk -R doesn't help. but yeah, you should try it to be sure |
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| 20:53.44 | Mr_Queue | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:54.18 | Mr_Queue | Didn't.. |
| 20:54.41 | Mr_Queue | I'm new to software RAID, I know hardware RAID rather well. |
| 20:55.17 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, it's not mdadm's fault. the kernel needs to see the partitions first for mdadm to be able to use them as raid components |
| 20:55.25 | Mr_Queue | I agree. |
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| 21:01.03 | satdav | Hello after i install sudo using apt-get sudo |
| 21:01.11 | satdav | do i run vissudo |
| 21:01.18 | satdav | straight away to make a user |
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| 21:02.52 | zykotick9 | satdav: easiest way, is add the user(s) to the sudo group, then logout/back in |
| 21:03.09 | satdav | zykotick9 how do i do that |
| 21:03.29 | zykotick9 | "adduser YOURUSER sudo" should work |
| 21:03.40 | satdav | OK |
| 21:03.48 | satdav | is that also for the password |
| 21:04.02 | satdav | of the user |
| 21:04.36 | zykotick9 | satdav: not sure what you're asking? the above needs to be run from root, and will add YOURUSER to the group sudo... |
| 21:05.41 | satdav | OK |
| 21:05.49 | satdav | but how do i set the password for the user |
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| 21:06.55 | zykotick9 | satdav: if you are creating a NEW user, i'd STRONGLY suggest using "adduser foousername" and it'll prompt for password |
| 21:08.52 | zykotick9 | satdav: oh crap. i got my first suggestion backwards! you need to use "useradd YOURUSER sudo". SORRY! |
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| 21:10.14 | blubberdiblub | zykotick9, adduser works fine for that. there's nothing wrong with the suggestion |
| 21:10.27 | satdav | OK |
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| 21:10.44 | satdav | blubberdiblub but how do i set the password for tat user |
| 21:10.50 | satdav | well for the sudo account |
| 21:11.20 | satdav | can i edit the sudo file on sftp |
| 21:11.41 | blubberdiblub | satdav, the user already has a password if it's already created. zykotick9 was talking about the group named "sudo". not sure if it exists by default, tho |
| 21:11.44 | ctmjr | satdav: you should already have a password |
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| 21:12.26 | zykotick9 | blubberdiblub: thanks - ya, confused myself there! haven't had to do that in a while. the sudo group does exist by default... |
| 21:12.29 | xmnemonic | Hi. I used Kali and I have a problem with set password for root. I have Kali on usb stick and I have set two users: root and guest. When I set password on root and reboot system I have password "toor" again. What can I do? Sorry for English :) |
| 21:12.53 | zykotick9 | xmnemonic: reask in #kali-linux |
| 21:12.55 | satdav | what ircd is packagedby default also |
| 21:13.16 | ctmjr | xmnemonic: ask in #kali |
| 21:13.32 | xmnemonic | zykotick9: ok sorry |
| 21:13.43 | ctmjr | #kali-linux that is |
| 21:13.47 | kop | 4 identical 1 Tb sata drives , alternate installer , attempting raid boot and lvm raid 6 mail volume . I seem to have gone brain dead past managing the partitioner . Any reasonable how to for your typical hammer mechanic ? |
| 21:14.59 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: 34 512-byte-blocks, would that be bs=512 count=34? |
| 21:15.18 | michazoet | hi to all |
| 21:15.19 | Mr_Queue | doens't seem right to me and I've never tried that approach. |
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| 21:16.41 | michazoet | I have a brand new Lenovo S540 and have some problems running debian on it. Has anyone here experience with this notebook and Debian and can help? |
| 21:16.57 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, yes bs=512 count=34 |
| 21:17.17 | satdav | is their a ircd in the packages |
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| 21:19.22 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: still no luck.. I'm rather confused. |
| 21:19.26 | satdav | whats the latest debain server |
| 21:19.30 | satdav | versuib |
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| 21:19.41 | satdav | is it 8.0 |
| 21:19.45 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, did you run sfdisk -R after that? |
| 21:19.52 | Mr_Queue | no forgot.. |
| 21:19.54 | Mr_Queue | sec |
| 21:20.01 | jelly-home | satdav: the topic says 7.2 |
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| 21:20.45 | satdav | oh |
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| 21:21.16 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: I owe you a case of beer. |
| 21:21.18 | Mr_Queue | [root@node ~]# mdadm /dev/md2 -a /dev/sdb2 |
| 21:21.18 | Mr_Queue | mdadm: added /dev/sdb2 |
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| 21:21.18 | Mr_Queue | [root@node ~]# mdadm /dev/md4 -a /dev/sdb4 |
| 21:21.19 | Mr_Queue | mdadm: added /dev/sdb4 |
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| 21:21.46 | Mr_Queue | heh |
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| 21:21.52 | Agd_Scorp | I have bad news, and good news. |
| 21:22.01 | Agd_Scorp | but first of all. |
| 21:22.08 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, you also randomized the UUIDs with sgdisk -G, right? |
| 21:22.08 | Agd_Scorp | I am having a problem shutting down my computer. |
| 21:22.12 | Agd_Scorp | abrotman? are you here. |
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| 21:22.55 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: previously, not after the dd.. Let me fail them and go again. |
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| 21:23.05 | Agd_Scorp | abrotman, are you available? |
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| 21:23.13 | Agd_Scorp | abrotman, when you're done wanking, please let me know. |
| 21:23.22 | Agd_Scorp | I shall not keep waiting here due to your wanking adventures. |
| 21:23.29 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, you probably should randomize them. i don't know what bad things can ensue when both disks have the same UUIDs |
| 21:23.36 | Agd_Scorp | can anybody please tell abrotman to quit wanking? |
| 21:23.40 | Agd_Scorp | yo, abrotman. |
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| 21:23.42 | Agd_Scorp | yo wanker |
| 21:25.21 | LinuxGuy2020 | I really want to get my PCI wireless card to work in my mini-itx debian based server as the primary network device. Is the only way to get it working without a GUI is manual configuration? Is there no tool to automate the configuration? |
| 21:25.28 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: I agree |
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| 21:26.40 | Agd_Scorp | I also agree, Mr_Queue. |
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| 21:30.01 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, I'd also recommend a "gdisk /dev/sdX" "w" to ensure the backup GPT gets written to the end |
| 21:30.57 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, (you can do that while already using the partitions) |
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| 21:45.44 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: thanks for the help. I've been adding md's to partitions by hand, do you know of a single command to hit them all at one? |
| 21:46.19 | thorie | hi guys.. i installed debian with netinstall cd, and created a new partition /dev/sdc4 that has 7.2.0 - but when i boot up, grub only shows my old OSes (windows, and older debian i had before)... how can i get it to show the new one 7.2.0 that i just installed? |
| 21:46.44 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, for multiple md arrays? no. you should be able to add multiple component devices to one md array, tho |
| 21:47.31 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: I mean to shorten stuff like this up... mdadm /dev/mdx -a /dev/sdbx; mdadm /dev/mdx -a /dev/sdbx ; mdadm /dev/mdx -a /dev/sdbx |
| 21:48.08 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, if the x in /dev/mdx are different, then no. you can use a for loop, tho |
| 21:49.10 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, "for x in 2 3 5 ; do mdadm /dev/md$x --add /dev/sdb$x ; done" provided the x of md and sdb agree. if they don't, you may need to add an offset |
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| 21:49.42 | Mr_Queue | yeah I could write a loop, was curious if --scan --assemble or the like would pull it off. |
| 21:50.40 | Mr_Queue | We have several thousand servers which have recently had the OS moved into SSD's with software so I'll be doing a lot of swaps in the future.. |
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| 21:50.49 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, you don't need to do it at reboot time. the arrays should be assembled automatically at reboot time, provided mdadm is configured correctly |
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| 21:51.05 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, ah, i see |
| 21:51.14 | Mr_Queue | Correct, I'm focused on drive swaps. |
| 21:51.22 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, well, use for loops then |
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| 21:51.45 | Mr_Queue | I will likely hash something out in perl in the coming weeks. Thanks again for your help. |
| 21:51.56 | blubberdiblub | you're welcome |
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| 21:53.24 | NetEcho | if I remove auto wlan0 from my /etc/network/interfaces file I can still easily launch the wifi via command at a later date right? |
| 21:53.43 | dondelelcaro | NetEcho: yes |
| 21:53.53 | NetEcho | perfect |
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| 21:54.10 | dondelelcaro | NetEcho: assuming you keep the iface stanza, anyway |
| 21:54.18 | ratcheer | NetEcho: I wish I knew how to do that ;) |
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| 21:55.12 | NetEcho | dondelelcaro yep I intend to. I've just moved the system right next to the router so I have it on eth0 |
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| 21:55.53 | NetEcho | I notice there's no auto eth0 howver I'm assuming allow-hotplug eth0 does the same thing |
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| 21:58.03 | KsM | I have a microSD card showing up as a CD, anyone know how to deal with that? |
| 21:58.07 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, "auto" always tries to up the interface at system start time while "allow-hotplug" only tries to up the interface as soon as it detects the cable being plugged in or the interface becoming available (via a key combo on laptops for instance) |
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| 21:58.34 | NetEcho | blubberdiblub which seems to work at bootup already since it's plugged in |
| 21:59.13 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, yes, but it's still a difference ;) |
| 21:59.19 | thorie | should i just reinstall debian again from scratch? |
| 21:59.31 | KsM | My sdcard is in my phone, the case is a bit hard to get off, so constantly opening the case to get to the sdcard is not really a good option, but connecting via usb, the sdcard shows up as a CD, and doesn't want to mount |
| 21:59.42 | NetEcho | blubberdiblub indeed and thanks for the explanation |
| 22:00.07 | mzx89 | i'm having an issue running dist-upgrade. can someone check out this error: http://paste.debian.net/67409/ the problem is that is that i installed this distro and commented out the crunchbang repo in sources.list and kept only debian repos, but now it's having an issue updating the tint2 package |
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| 22:02.24 | tremon | KsM: look up usb-modeswitch, sounds like your phone is being "helpful" and presenting itself as a driver cd so that windows users can easily install the correct driver |
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| 22:03.43 | thet0wer | hey peeps |
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| 22:04.52 | KsM | tremon: I've tried, I can't really figure it out. Apparently I'm supposed to set the mode to 8 (mass-storage), but it's already in that mode? |
| 22:07.01 | tremon | does your phone have two usb modes? some phones allow you to select if it should be in phone mode or storage passthrough mode. Other than that, I'm not of much use. I have never used usb-modeswitch myself |
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| 22:08.06 | KsM | it's a cheap android phone, it just asks me if I want to turn on USB storage when I plug it in, and I say yes |
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| 22:08.32 | KsM | A bit of humour about it: |
| 22:08.32 | KsM | [71735.215556] usb 1-1.4: Manufacturer: Broadcom |
| 22:08.32 | KsM | [71735.215559] usb 1-1.4: SerialNumber: 0123456789ABCDEF |
| 22:08.36 | thet0wer | hey can anybody help me set up a windows aero snap feature or simmilar in kali linux |
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| 22:08.51 | KsM | Broadcom being crazy, as always. |
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| 22:09.42 | tremon | looks like it. it's weird that the usb storage mode wouldn't allow you access to your card. Is it presenting as two devices maybe, or two partitions? |
| 22:11.27 | KsM | tremon: I don't think so, here's me trying to mount it and stuff: http://paste.debian.net/67416/ |
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| 22:17.53 | tremon | KsM: I just tried my phone to compare, it doesn't even allow usb mass storage mode, only mtp. So can't compare here |
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| 22:18.52 | KsM | Thanks though |
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| 22:40.21 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: ment to mention earlier it started auto rebuilding, wasn't expecting that. |
| 22:40.29 | Mr_Queue | See how it goes. |
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| 22:41.18 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, yeah, you can just let it do its job without minding it. you can even reboot in between |
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| 22:41.47 | ShecoDu | anybody experienced with debian installer preseeding? I need to configure extra network interfaces. I'm using a preseed/late_command but the network/interfaces doesn't change. (i can change other files) |
| 22:42.29 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: I knew that part, but in my past experience I needed to add the partitions back to the md's. Perhaps I wasn't patient enough previously. |
| 22:42.55 | Mr_Queue | Friday I had to crash course on it to get 4 arrays going after a PDU failure. |
| 22:43.18 | smjd | How do I disable the default Debian GRUB splash image? The menu looked better before the splash image got installed as some dependency. |
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| 22:43.53 | Mr_Queue | I don't reboot often enough to care, but quiet or something in menu.conf seems likely. |
| 22:44.25 | smjd | Mr_Queue: is that for me? |
| 22:44.34 | Mr_Queue | yes smjd sorry. |
| 22:44.51 | smjd | How would a boot option affect GRUB menu? |
| 22:44.57 | NetEcho | How do I got about mounting / automounting network shares from another linux server (no password required guest access only) |
| 22:45.11 | smjd | or what is that quiet? |
| 22:45.12 | blubberdiblub | smjd, if your box is okay with text mode grub, you can uncomment "GRUB_TERMINAL=console" in /etc/default/grub and run update-grub |
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| 22:45.32 | Mr_Queue | NetEcho: /etc/fstab options |
| 22:45.39 | Mr_Queue | man/info/google it |
| 22:45.45 | NetEcho | I'm used to using fstab |
| 22:45.52 | smjd | blubberdiblub: okay, thanks |
| 22:46.00 | NetEcho | just don't know how to access network shares from command line |
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| 22:47.03 | guest43242 | anyone know why I have slow file copy from system disk? |
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| 22:47.43 | Mr_Queue | That's a loaded question guest43242 |
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| 22:48.20 | guest43242 | I get around 4 to 14M/s in iotop |
| 22:48.22 | Mr_Queue | guest43242: I could pick like 2 or 3 things per finger. |
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| 22:48.54 | Mr_Queue | strace your PID, what is it doing? |
| 22:49.06 | Mr_Queue | What is your system doing while you're trying? |
| 22:49.14 | Mr_Queue | What scheduler are you running? |
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| 22:49.23 | Mr_Queue | It network involved? |
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| 22:49.32 | Mr_Queue | Do you have bus issues? |
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| 22:49.56 | guest43242 | I tried even on dd from hd to /dev/null |
| 22:49.59 | Mr_Queue | I could go on and on. |
| 22:50.13 | guest43242 | so it isn't about the network |
| 22:50.20 | guest43242 | I don't know what schedualer |
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| 22:50.27 | Mr_Queue | cfq then |
| 22:50.31 | guest43242 | strace my pid? |
| 22:50.34 | Mr_Queue | ouch |
| 22:50.38 | Mr_Queue | that hurt |
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| 22:50.57 | guest43242 | touchy? |
| 22:51.02 | Mr_Queue | aptitude install strace -y; strace -vvts 800 -p <PID> |
| 22:51.24 | guest43242 | what process should I strace? |
| 22:51.41 | Mr_Queue | I couldn't tell you but ps probably could. |
| 22:52.07 | guest43242 | I have a lot of process running around |
| 22:52.13 | Mr_Queue | We all do. |
| 22:52.18 | guest43242 | it is a multitasking system |
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| 22:52.58 | Mr_Queue | so is mine. pastebin some stuffs |
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| 22:53.32 | waynr | so i am trying to use the Debian AMI with the public key created when i made the instance, but i am not sure which user name to use |
| 22:53.35 | waynr | can anyone help? |
| 22:53.57 | guest43242 | I have this: ACPI Warning: 0x0000000000000480-0x00000000000004af SystemIO conflicts with Region \GPS0 1 |
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| 22:54.22 | mumpitze1 | guest43242: unless something doesn't work at all you have to ignore it |
| 22:54.31 | guest43242 | ok |
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| 22:54.33 | mumpitze1 | even when something breaks due to it, you can't really do anything |
| 22:54.55 | guest43242 | I just have slow system disk for no good reason (sata regular disk) |
| 22:55.03 | Mr_Queue | guest43242: vmstat -S M 1 10 |
| 22:55.22 | Mr_Queue | pastebin that ^^^^^ |
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| 22:55.30 | Mr_Queue | the output of what it reports at least. |
| 22:56.08 | guest43242 | http://paste.debian.net/67423/ Mr_Queue |
| 22:56.30 | Mr_Queue | That's one idle box. |
| 22:58.43 | Mr_Queue | guest43242: You going to USB? |
| 22:59.04 | Mr_Queue | The data I mean. |
| 22:59.05 | guest43242 | no, it it through sata |
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| 22:59.17 | Mr_Queue | humm.. |
| 22:59.32 | guest43242 | even: dd if=bigfile of=/dev/null bs=1M , is slow |
| 23:00.14 | Mr_Queue | dunno here, jumper on the disk right? New gear? just happen? |
| 23:00.43 | Mr_Queue | drive fragmented to hell? |
| 23:00.50 | guest43242 | old gear, |
| 23:00.57 | guest43242 | don't know |
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| 23:00.59 | Mr_Queue | there is a lot of things that could happen |
| 23:01.11 | guest43242 | how to test fragmentation? |
| 23:01.20 | Mr_Queue | Try deadline |
| 23:01.54 | guest43242 | I don't have deadline |
| 23:01.59 | Mr_Queue | yes you do. |
| 23:01.59 | th0r | guest43242: used to be able to pass grub a 'noacpi' at boot. Old stuff had some problems with acpi |
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| 23:02.29 | Mr_Queue | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-change-io-scheduler-for-harddisk/ |
| 23:02.32 | Mr_Queue | guest43242: ^^^^ |
| 23:02.47 | Mr_Queue | deadline or brainfuck which requires a patch |
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| 23:03.06 | Mr_Queue | deadline doesn't. |
| 23:03.56 | guest43242 | noop deadline [cfq] |
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| 23:04.12 | Mr_Queue | yeah, I knew you had cfq because you didn't know |
| 23:04.16 | Mr_Queue | set it to deadline |
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| 23:05.21 | NetEcho | I can't seem to mount my remote samba share when I try cifs I get mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //192.168.1.200/download, |
| 23:05.24 | Mr_Queue | also take the time to look into brainfuck |
| 23:05.34 | Mr_Queue | guest43242: ^^^ |
| 23:06.22 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, did you use the -t cifs option for mount? have you installed cifs-utils? |
| 23:06.31 | guest43242 | brainfuck? there is shuck a thing ??? Mr_Queue ? |
| 23:06.42 | guest43242 | thought Mr_Queue was swearing |
| 23:06.51 | NetEcho | blubberdiblub that could help lol |
| 23:06.56 | Mr_Queue | Yes, it's a scheduler. You'll need to patch the kernel for it. |
| 23:06.59 | Mr_Queue | Check it out. |
| 23:07.11 | tremon | guest43242: http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/bfs-faq.txt |
| 23:07.17 | Mr_Queue | That's it. |
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| 23:08.12 | NetEcho | blubberdiblub that worked, now I want to fstab it however I noticed when I manually mount it it asks for a password, how do I factor that into //192.168.1.200/download /opt/media/download smb iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 1 ? |
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| 23:08.18 | Mr_Queue | My russian friends seem to love BFQ |
| 23:08.23 | Mr_Queue | err BFS |
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| 23:08.46 | NetEcho | err change smb to cifs |
| 23:09.12 | guest43242 | noop [deadline] cfq |
| 23:09.34 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, best create a credentials file in a safe place with proper permissions and then pass that as mount option |
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| 23:09.53 | NetEcho | blubberdiblub it shouldn't need permissions though it's set as guest access only |
| 23:10.08 | NetEcho | my DLNA devices and Microsoft systems can access them no problem |
| 23:10.20 | guest43242 | Mr_Queue, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck ? |
| 23:10.28 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, if the password isn't valuable, you can also pass the username and password as mount options |
| 23:10.52 | NetEcho | blubberdiblub just the unix login creds to the target system right? |
| 23:11.18 | Mr_Queue | guest43242: yep |
| 23:11.20 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, the samba login credentials. they might or might not match the unix password |
| 23:11.53 | guest43242 | Mr_Queue, how is brainfuck relevant? |
| 23:12.01 | Mr_Queue | guest43242: wait, no. read this. |
| 23:12.01 | NetEcho | well considering I didn't specify a login when I mounted and the password I used to login matches netecho@target system and I mounted from netecho@localsystem I'll assume so heh |
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| 23:12.15 | Mr_Queue | guest43242: http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/bfs/bfs-faq.txt |
| 23:12.18 | Mr_Queue | read it |
| 23:12.44 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, password=12345 as mount option |
| 23:13.16 | NetEcho | blubberdiblub yea I googled :) |
| 23:13.21 | NetEcho | bout to test in a minm |
| 23:13.28 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, you might need to explicitly set username=foobar too, considering it's mounted by root at system start |
| 23:13.56 | NetEcho | probably |
| 23:14.22 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, "man mount.cifs" helps to see all options, too ;) |
| 23:14.42 | th0r | NetEcho: is the samba server a linux box? If so, did you define a samba password with smbpasswd? |
| 23:14.53 | NetEcho | blubberdiblub just to make sure I've got this right //192.168.1.200/download /opt/media/download cifs username=foobar,password=1234,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 1 |
| 23:15.05 | NetEcho | th0r no I did not |
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| 23:15.32 | th0r | NetEcho: it can be the same user/passwd as the login, but it has to be defined separately with samba in linux |
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| 23:15.32 | guest43242 | Mr_Queue, we are talking about the OS schedualer of processes ? |
| 23:15.48 | phenylanine | hello. I'd like to download and install "bastille linux" tool however aptitude seems not able to find it. could anyone suggest a way to get it please? |
| 23:15.52 | NetEcho | th0r ty |
| 23:16.08 | th0r | NetEcho: I spent three days once tracking that down <smile> |
| 23:16.22 | technoid_ | for samba I use a really random password so it looks like I am passing something hashed instead of plaintext |
| 23:16.23 | NetEcho | I can believe it lol |
| 23:16.53 | Mr_Queue | guest43242: It's for IO |
| 23:17.24 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, looks okay. you can change the 1 to 0, tho. it's not fsck'able. you might need to add further options later to fix permission problems and stuff like that |
| 23:17.42 | Mr_Queue | You probably have worse problems, but you just learned something.... The scheduler (aka elevator) is responsibe for IO. |
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| 23:18.11 | guest43242 | Mr_Queue, deadline didn't improve the 'dd' test |
| 23:18.27 | Mr_Queue | keep digging then.. I don't know.. |
| 23:18.28 | NetEcho | how do I unmount the share with umount so I can test mount -a? |
| 23:18.36 | Mr_Queue | It's probably not a software problem guest43242 |
| 23:18.48 | phenylanine | can anyone help me please? |
| 23:19.00 | Mr_Queue | Only if you're drowing. |
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| 23:19.00 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, umount /opt/media/download |
| 23:19.23 | NetEcho | ah I was trying umount //192.168.1.200/download lol |
| 23:19.37 | guest43242 | 1202716672 bytes (1.2 GB) copied, 108.249 s, 11.1 MB/s |
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| 23:20.15 | Mr_Queue | guest43242: sounds like hardware now. |
| 23:20.29 | Mr_Queue | fill up the copy fluid? |
| 23:20.44 | NetEcho | woohoo it works! thanks blubberdiblub |
| 23:20.57 | guest43242 | what is fluid? |
| 23:21.52 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, you're welcome |
| 23:22.14 | NetEcho | /usr/bin is the default install path for debian right? |
| 23:22.18 | Mr_Queue | facepalm |
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| 23:22.45 | NetEcho | dumb question I know |
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| 23:22.56 | NetEcho | but it's be a stupid long time since I've compiled anything from scratch |
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| 23:23.19 | blubberdiblub | NetEcho, for local installs that don't come from packages, /usr/local/XXX/ is the right place |
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| 23:23.34 | NetEcho | ah good to know |
| 23:23.44 | phenylanine | NetEcho: there is no dumb questions, only dumb people taking the piss of good questions |
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| 23:24.10 | NetEcho | lol |
| 23:24.27 | forcer | Careful with statements like that, someone might consider it a challenge... |
| 23:24.38 | NetEcho | hahahaha CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! |
| 23:24.42 | NetEcho | :P |
| 23:24.47 | Mr_Queue | get set; go |
| 23:24.50 | NetEcho | anyway back on topic for me |
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| 23:32.13 | waynr | i hate ubuntu but because the debian AMI is bogus i am using ubuntu instead |
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| 23:38.45 | whoami_ | how should a correct sources.list look like? |
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| 23:40.23 | Mr_Queue | whoami_: depends. |
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| 23:40.52 | LtL | dpkg: tell whoami_ about wheezy sources.list |
| 23:41.06 | LtL | whoami_: read the message from dpkg |
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| 23:41.35 | Mr_Queue | whoami_: This should get you rolling http://paste.debian.net/plain/67426 |
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| 23:43.56 | whoami_ | when i run apt-get update it says that "http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/" is not a known list of sources |
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| 23:46.25 | LtL | whoami_: you prefer to ignore advice so choose your own mirror(s) here. http://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 23:47.07 | psiklops | whoami_, i also used to use se but it gave me troubles also, dont recall what output it gave me ... germany (de) is also a good source |
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| 23:48.09 | whoami_ | ok i should try another country then |
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| 23:48.48 | Mr_Queue | I would look for a local mirror from a large college in your country. |
| 23:49.04 | Mr_Queue | Or University they call them. |
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| 23:50.05 | Mr_Queue | Speaking of repos... anyone know if the crew has deployed anycast? |
| 23:52.46 | blubberdiblub | Mr_Queue, do you mean in the debian repo? apt-cache search anycast |
| 23:53.28 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: CDN like. |
| 23:54.07 | Mr_Queue | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anycast |
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| 23:54.18 | Mr_Queue | http://blog.cloudflare.com/a-brief-anycast-primer |
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| 23:55.29 | Mr_Queue | That, IMO should be something the Debian Admin's look into. |
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| 23:56.00 | blubberdiblub | well, sorry, i still don't understand your question |
| 23:56.12 | Mr_Queue | Then the whole repo bouncing jingle wouldn't matter at all. |
| 23:56.44 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: I don't really have a question, I'm just adding to the other gent's line. |
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| 23:57.34 | Mr_Queue | I'm saying.... Should Debian deploy anycast for the repo FQDN, no one would need to find something local. |
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| 23:58.33 | Kiryx | Hey, sorry if this is basic: I'm trying to break free from Ubuntu as it started to invade my taste of privacy recently |
| 23:58.46 | Mr_Queue | lol |
| 23:58.54 | Mr_Queue | blubberdiblub: Make sense? |
| 23:59.29 | Nexuist | what's the best way to have a script run when an ethernet connection is established? |
| 23:59.49 | Kiryx | yet I usually need a quite new software packages, as I plan to not stick to my OS for quite a few years |