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| 00:00.02 | Mr_Queue | what? |
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| 00:00.39 | Kiryx | would Debian testing be good solution for that ? |
| 00:01.01 | Kiryx | WHat's the equivalence to Ubuntu's package updates pace ? |
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| 00:01.28 | thorie | i upgraded from debian 6 to 7, and my usb modem stopped working - any suggestions what to look at? |
| 00:01.31 | forcer | Kiryx: Testing is a good solution if you want a mostly stable system with current packages, but can deal with some breakage from time to time. |
| 00:01.44 | psiklops | Nexuist, what do you mean ? |
| 00:02.12 | Nexuist | psiklops: i want to run a bash script when an ethernet connection is made |
| 00:02.34 | whoami_ | i have just installed debian but youtube isnt working, what should i do? |
| 00:02.53 | Kiryx | forcer: It depends on how severe the breakage may be |
| 00:03.26 | forcer | Nexuist: Scripts in /etc/network/if-up.d/ are run when an interface goes up, with $IFACE set to the interface that went up |
| 00:04.08 | psiklops | thorie, have any Device specs ? |
| 00:04.41 | Nexuist | forcer: great, thanks |
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| 00:06.25 | psiklops | thorie, whats your usb modems name/brand... |
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| 00:08.19 | forcer | Apparently, installing the generic un-archiver "unar" pulls in gnustep-base-runtime, which starts gdomap, which listens to a public port by default. This feels kind of silly. |
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| 00:12.19 | psiklops | forcer, try "UNRAR" |
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| 00:12.31 | psiklops | :-) |
| 00:12.48 | psiklops | oh, sorry |
| 00:12.56 | psiklops | just looked it up |
| 00:13.00 | forcer | :-) |
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| 00:13.41 | thorie | psiklops: it's a sprint USB U1901SP 4g Broadband Internet stick |
| 00:14.46 | psiklops | thorie, is it reconized when you do $ lsusb ? |
| 00:14.54 | thorie | yup |
| 00:15.05 | psiklops | thorie, can you paste the output of lsusb if so ? |
| 00:16.46 | thorie | http://pastebin.com/N61v13Ki |
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| 00:18.36 | thorie | on my debian 6 box, the USB stick lights up immediately with a green light, but on debian 7, it stays off |
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| 00:21.39 | psiklops | thorie, box as in PC ? |
| 00:21.42 | psiklops | or Laptop |
| 00:21.48 | thorie | pc |
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| 00:31.29 | useless-eater | hi, I got a raid5 that I want to keep as healthy as possible. just discovered a disk with 700 reallocated sectors. I would like to replace it, before it starts making problems, what should I do? mark it as faulty disk with mdadm, remove it from raid, and then remove physically, then add new disk and rebuild? been a while since I did this, and not sure if remembering things correctly |
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| 00:32.52 | blubberdiblub | useless-eater, sounds correct. it will start rebuilding automatically, tho, when you add the new disk |
| 00:32.53 | vs73nx | hello everyone, im having problems. with my qt5 installation.. cmake is looking for config files for Qt5Core and is looking in '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/Qt5Core/Qt5CoreConfig.cmake' for it. This is a problem because the actual file it should be looking for is in the path '/opt/Qt5.2.0/5.2.0-beta1/gcc_64/lib/cmake/Qt5Core'. i know that update-alternatives should be used but i dont know how i should use the command... ca |
| 00:32.53 | vs73nx | n someone give me some pointers on how to use update-alternatives to fix this problem. |
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| 00:34.30 | useless-eater | blubberdiblub: thanks :) |
| 00:34.32 | hans_henrik | the computer "felt" sluggish all day, but with this apt-get install putty thing, where "Reading database" took over a minute, theres no doubt anymore; seems basically everything that requires some cpu, goes superslow; running htop from root, nothing uses much cpu, load average ~4.42 ; i also have have ca 1.5 GB of ram free (out of 2GB total); so summary, the box is going really slow, and i have no |
| 00:34.33 | hans_henrik | idea why |
| 00:34.53 | blubberdiblub | vs73nx, update-alternative --config packagename |
| 00:35.06 | useless-eater | hans_henrik: try atop |
| 00:35.40 | hans_henrik | that's gonna take some time, apt-get install is running veeeery slow; still at that apt-get install putty i started like.. 3? minutes ago |
| 00:35.56 | hans_henrik | and dont got atop |
| 00:36.23 | thorie | is there something i can compare with my old system to see what is different? |
| 00:36.28 | useless-eater | hans_henrik: why would you like putty? dont you already got a ssh client? |
| 00:36.30 | hans_henrik | ok its done; installing atop now.. with time; |
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| 00:36.48 | hans_henrik | useless-eater, i need putty for a "raw" text connection with a whois server :p |
| 00:36.56 | useless-eater | hans_henrik: I have never installed putty on a linux box. |
| 00:37.02 | useless-eater | hans_henrik: nc? |
| 00:37.15 | hans_henrik | ah true, could probably use netcat |
| 00:37.29 | vs73nx | it isnt a package im trying to compile a software package but it wants the Qt5CoreConfig.cmake file in '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/Qt5Core/Qt5CoreConfig.cmake' which, as i said earlier, is the wron path to the wron version... the compilation stops because of the wrong version si oi need to point the file to the right location at '/opt/Qt5.2.0/5.2.0-beta1/gcc_64/lib/cmake/Qt5Core'. |
| 00:37.40 | blubberdiblub | or just "whois" package, if you don't need it that raw after all |
| 00:38.17 | hans_henrik | i need to know exactly what input i give it |
| 00:38.19 | hans_henrik | so no |
| 00:39.07 | thorie | i think there's some USB driver that isn't installed on my system which is causing it to see it plugged in, but not activate |
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| 00:39.12 | psiklops | thorie, i found the module in the stable 3.12.1 kernel -- its called: bcm_wimax |
| 00:39.27 | useless-eater | hans_henrik: did atop give some clues? |
| 00:39.38 | hans_henrik | time apt-get install atop; real 2m44.767s user 0m4.448s sys 0m1.256s |
| 00:39.38 | hans_henrik | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.07 | thorie | psiklops: how do i install that? |
| 00:40.36 | hans_henrik | i have no idea; atop highlighted this in red tho; DSK | sda | busy 102% | read 364 | write 91 | avio 21 ms | |
| 00:40.49 | useless-eater | tahts a clue :) |
| 00:41.01 | hans_henrik | maybe a harddrive issue? |
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| 00:41.35 | hans_henrik | just assuming DSK means disk and sda is /dev/sda~ |
| 00:41.40 | useless-eater | yea |
| 00:41.58 | blubberdiblub | and 102% means it's at its limit |
| 00:42.00 | useless-eater | you should know what this disk activity is about though |
| 00:42.43 | hans_henrik | ahm yeah, its probably seeding some torrents |
| 00:42.47 | hans_henrik | ahm |
| 00:42.57 | useless-eater | ;) |
| 00:43.01 | useless-eater | some downloading too |
| 00:43.09 | hans_henrik | nope |
| 00:43.14 | hans_henrik | err |
| 00:43.30 | hans_henrik | gonna doble check that |
| 00:44.19 | hans_henrik | nope, downloading nothing |
| 00:45.11 | useless-eater | bb all :) bedtime |
| 00:45.14 | psiklops | thorie, have you ever built a kernel on your own? If not check it out ... could help |
| 00:45.28 | hans_henrik | good nighty useless-eater |
| 00:45.50 | thorie | ok |
| 00:47.48 | hans_henrik | stopped the torrent process, now its slowly going down; at "busy 75%" now.. i guess thats good |
| 00:48.04 | hans_henrik | man atop tiem; |
| 00:48.06 | psiklops | thorie, what does $ lsmod | grep bcm_wimax say ? |
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| 00:48.17 | thorie | nothing |
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| 00:51.09 | NetEcho | anyone happen to know where the debian package for sabnzbdplus puts its scripts folder? |
| 00:51.29 | hans_henrik | maybe locate / find does |
| 00:52.00 | NetEcho | nope chances are the directory isn't made yet |
| 00:52.05 | amphi | or dpkg -L |
| 00:52.21 | NetEcho | that could work |
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| 00:52.56 | psiklops | thorie, well, thats the module you want: bcm_wimax in case you build a custom kernel: look in menuconfig > Device Drivers > Beceem BCS200/BCS220-3 and BCSM250 wimax support |
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| 00:54.03 | psiklops | thorie, you can find the 3.12.1 kernel on: https://kernel.org |
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| 00:54.34 | thorie | hmm |
| 00:54.43 | thorie | but this works in debian 6 |
| 00:54.55 | thorie | how come it won't work in debian 7? |
| 00:54.58 | psiklops | then reinstall ;-) |
| 00:55.09 | psiklops | i dont know about that |
| 00:55.15 | amphi | thorie: what kernel module does it use in 6? |
| 00:55.23 | psiklops | scratch that one plese |
| 00:55.37 | thorie | on debian 6 it uses 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP |
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| 00:56.34 | acu | how can I make this PERMANENT ? --- iptables -A INPUT -i tun+ -j ACCEPT |
| 00:56.39 | psiklops | thorie, when you run 6, what module does it show in lsmod ? something like: bcm_wmi or other ? |
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| 00:56.56 | psiklops | $ lsmod |
| 00:57.02 | thorie | it shows bcm_wimax |
| 00:57.22 | thorie | i also have a 'bcm' folder in /usr/src/linux-source-3.2/drivers/staging/ |
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| 00:57.48 | psiklops | is it possible to use that module amphi ? |
| 00:58.28 | thorie | and when i run make, it compiles to bcm_wimax.ko successfully |
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| 00:58.43 | thorie | so i think i made bcm_wimax for 3.2.0 |
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| 00:59.26 | amphi | thorie: does it mdprobe ok? |
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| 00:59.52 | amphi | er, modprobe |
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| 01:00.38 | thorie | no errors |
| 01:01.32 | psiklops | lsmod | grep bcm_wimax ? |
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| 01:02.04 | amphi | no spew into the log? |
| 01:04.11 | thorie | the logs show Beceem Communications Inc. WiMAX driver, 5.2.45 |
| 01:04.19 | _dale | running xfce, seeing problems with fonts sometimes having chopped characters, is there an easy fix? |
| 01:04.20 | thorie | and it shows bcm_wimax in lsmod |
| 01:04.47 | thorie | but this is on debian 6, where it actually detects my USB device properly... but on debian 7 something is different, maybe it's this bcm_wimax thing |
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| 01:07.13 | thorie | let me boot back into 7 and try these |
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| 01:13.08 | thorie | hmm definitely doesn't have bcm_wimax in debian 7 |
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| 01:17.17 | arthurfiggis | hello :) i was just running my regular dist-upgrade in wheezy, i'm noticing that apt is reporting nvidia-settings as being "held back..." not really familiar with the term, is there any way i can figure out what the conflict is, or is it better to just wait a day or two and see if it's fixed? |
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| 01:19.34 | Nexuist | hey guys, can anyone help me with this CUPS error? http://pastebin.com/CrC64cPh |
| 01:19.53 | Nexuist | the problem lines are 106-107 (i think) |
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| 01:20.40 | Nexuist | other than that error I also noticed it's trying to use the wrong device version (it's trying to set it to a 2600n when I have an f4440) |
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| 01:23.53 | psiklops | amphi, what do you think about thorie's module issue ? is it possible to use the modules from his recent 6 install in 7 ? |
| 01:24.11 | smjd | Whoever thought associating PDF files with GIMP was a good idea should be shot to the Moon |
| 01:24.26 | thorie | psiklops: i tried to insmod bcm_wimax.ko and it gave me an error |
| 01:24.29 | amphi | no, except for comedic effect ;) |
| 01:24.31 | amphi | smjd: haha |
| 01:24.54 | thorie | psiklops: so i'm now recompiling bcm_wimax on debian 7... hopefully then it will work |
| 01:24.59 | amphi | psiklops: I wonder if the module has been renamed, or folded into another |
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| 01:25.32 | psiklops | thorie, i found this: http://code.google.com/p/bcm-wimax/ |
| 01:25.34 | thorie | i still have a feeling it's something with the USB port being handled differently |
| 01:26.06 | thorie | because even while linux is booting (in 6) the USB LED light is already green and flashing, but in 7, the USB light is off all the time |
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| 01:26.29 | psiklops | naja, thats kinda old |
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| 01:26.34 | psiklops | :-D |
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| 01:28.33 | psiklops | amphi, in kernel 3.12.1 it is still bcm_wimax |
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| 01:32.11 | acu | !iptables |
| 01:32.11 | dpkg | [iptables] The user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about <netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up iptables, see http://wiki.debian.org/iptables or ask me about <iptables-restore>. http://netfilter.org/ #netfilter on irc.freenode.net. See also <ferm>, <lartc>, <masq>, <ulogd>. |
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| 01:34.05 | tomatosalad | right-o, can I do two encrypted debian installs without LVM? |
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| 01:50.11 | psiklops | thorie, check this page out: https://sites.google.com/site/jrey42/Home/wimax Section: Open Source WiMAX resources |
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| 01:52.29 | zoevkl | hi |
| 01:52.48 | psiklops | hi |
| 01:53.13 | zoevkl | I'm on debian 7.20 with gnome and my microphone (built-in laptop) is not working but if I connect my headphones on the mic port the built in microphone starts working |
| 01:53.18 | zoevkl | 2 days ago was working (but I had to reinstall debian today) |
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| 02:04.43 | psiklops | thorie, do you have a module in /lib/modules/.....wimax/ that looks something like this: drxvi314 ? |
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| 02:07.38 | thorie | psiklops: yeah |
| 02:07.57 | psiklops | try that one out |
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| 02:12.58 | acu | !iptables |
| 02:12.58 | dpkg | [iptables] The user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter. Ask me about <netfilter docs>. For a proper Debian-way of setting up iptables, see http://wiki.debian.org/iptables or ask me about <iptables-restore>. http://netfilter.org/ #netfilter on irc.freenode.net. See also <ferm>, <lartc>, <masq>, <ulogd>. |
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| 02:18.25 | nell | i have 12gb of ram |
| 02:18.27 | nell | do I need swap |
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| 02:18.49 | Dan39 | sure might as well :P |
| 02:18.59 | Dan39 | i like to have a little no matter what |
| 02:19.21 | Dan39 | give it 1gb imo |
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| 02:20.09 | Dan39 | hmm tho you dont need it |
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| 02:30.00 | psiklops | good luck thorie ... i am going to bed |
| 02:30.05 | thorie | thx man |
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| 02:30.06 | thorie | goodnite |
| 02:30.25 | psiklops | gnight |
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| 02:55.07 | tomatosalad | so, uh, doing a new debian install on my eeepc, why can't it exchange keys with my router? password is correct, WPA2 is correct... |
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| 03:19.27 | Havarem | I've got a proxy problem with my apache 2.2.22 on my debian wheezy |
| 03:19.39 | Havarem | and I can't post on the httpd channel |
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| 03:29.00 | abrotman | vim |
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| 03:29.38 | slinnky | yawns |
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| 03:33.23 | indes | vim?? win. WIN! |
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| 03:43.59 | rryoumaa | yeah, i think iptables is just usable enough that it does not need a front end. however, there are a ton of turnkey firewalls that you might like. arno-iptables-firewall, for example, is configured with debconf, and there is firestarter etc. |
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| 03:49.34 | zerodrama | i am trying to build from source and getting a bizarre error |
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| 04:05.25 | nmschulte | Hi all. I want to connect a Canon Rebel T2i to my PC running debian, with the goal of capturing to the PC, and stretch of streaming live to some internet streaming service. I am a complete novice with this kind of consumer equip. Can anyone give me some pointers? |
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| 04:08.12 | DrakkenWarr | what photo management software are you using currently nmschulte? |
| 04:08.53 | nmschulte | DrakkenWarr: None; I've never played with this before at all. |
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| 04:09.35 | nmschulte | My extent of photography/videography is point and shoot with my Android phone and uploading to Picasa Web Albums. And using a web camera, USB or integrated. |
| 04:10.25 | DrakkenWarr | a'ight, so first things first. There are some really shweet photo management suites for linux |
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| 04:10.35 | DrakkenWarr | I would suggest a search on those |
| 04:10.48 | DrakkenWarr | when you find one you like, let me know, I might be able to help further |
| 04:10.51 | nmschulte | I have to run at the moment, real sorry! I'll poke again tomorrow. |
| 04:10.54 | nmschulte | DrakkenWarr: thanks, will do. |
| 04:11.12 | DrakkenWarr | nw m8 |
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| 04:17.11 | JosephM | I have a problem and need some help please. I tried to update my laptop to install mixxx. when everything finished in the manager, my screen went blank, I had to reboot. Now I come to a login prompt and no gnome.' |
| 04:17.24 | JosephM | can someone help me get gnome running again? |
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| 04:23.41 | JosephM | I have a problem and need some help please. I tried to update my laptop to install mixxx. when everything finished in the manager, my screen went blank, I had to reboot. Now I come to a login prompt and no gnome.' |
| 04:23.47 | JosephM | can someone help me get gnome running again? |
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| 04:29.43 | LtL | JosephM: what did you update |
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| 05:00.39 | acu | Ok this might seem stupid - in /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward I have a 0 - if I do ---> echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ---- 0 becomes 1 and my setup works - I want to make it permanently - I tried two methods - nano /etc/sysctl.conf and uncommented net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 --- and reboot the server - but nothing happens - can anyone help ? |
| 05:01.06 | eb0t1 | i have installed tor...but i cant see it in my debian applications |
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| 05:08.48 | eb0t1 | hey if i just download the tor browser bundle from tor and install it on wheezy ..will it interfere with anything |
| 05:08.56 | eb0t1 | is it something you guys would do |
| 05:09.00 | eb0t1 | or would you avoid it |
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| 05:11.38 | acu | ebot: first option is to install the tor packaged for debian and available in repos - aptitude install tor --- if the version of tor is too old - try first to get .deb (AMD64 or whatever architecture) and dpkg --install whatevertor.deb |
| 05:11.52 | acu | eb0t1, |
| 05:12.02 | acu | see above ^^^^ |
| 05:12.44 | acu | !package |
| 05:12.44 | dpkg | Debian .deb packages are a special form of <ar> archive which can be unpacked with "ar x pkg.deb". Inside the file control.tar.gz are conffiles, installation scripts, and a file "control" which contains the information shown with "apt-cache show pkg". Dependencies can be changed by editing this file. Install the dpkg-dev package and read "man 5 deb" for more details. A better plan is to see <package recompile> <source package>. |
| 05:13.05 | acu | !install |
| 05:13.05 | dpkg | There are a myriad different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
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| 05:22.53 | debianUberHaxor | my tcpdump is running and dumping into a log file. :) |
| 05:23.54 | eb0t1 | hi acu ...i installed the tor package sudo aptitude install tor |
| 05:23.59 | eb0t1 | i even set up all the keys etc |
| 05:24.02 | eb0t1 | that the page said |
| 05:24.07 | debianUberHaxor | tcpdump logs every conversation |
| 05:24.09 | debianUberHaxor | :) |
| 05:24.10 | eb0t1 | it all went well |
| 05:24.11 | debianUberHaxor | and ip |
| 05:24.19 | eb0t1 | but it doesnt seem to be anywhere |
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| 05:24.40 | eb0t1 | so i assumed the tor package would install a tor browser |
| 05:24.49 | eb0t1 | what is the point in the package with out a browser |
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| 05:27.51 | acu | eb0t1, is there - there is some menu updater - what do you use GNome, KDE LXDE ? |
| 05:27.55 | acu | !menu update |
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| 05:28.01 | acu | !menu |
| 05:28.02 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, menu is the cool Debian program that handles adding items to your window manager/desktop environment's menus when you install new packages (i.e. install gimp, a new 'gimp' item is added to all of your window managers). To add new menu entries, read /etc/menu/README. See also <menu-methods>. |
| 05:28.08 | eb0t1 | wheezy 7.2 |
| 05:28.12 | eb0t1 | i think its gnome |
| 05:28.31 | eb0t1 | ill try sudo aptitude menu update |
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| 05:28.53 | acu | eb0t1, you do not need to think - is there |
| 05:29.15 | acu | it seem that you may need to navigate through the gnome then - |
| 05:29.25 | debianUberHaxor | yawns |
| 05:29.31 | debianUberHaxor | freenode staff are uptight |
| 05:29.46 | acu | there is a search on the upper corner - type tor |
| 05:30.11 | acu | click on activities |
| 05:30.13 | debianUberHaxor | well im going to bed |
| 05:30.22 | eb0t1 | no command menu update. |
| 05:30.24 | debianUberHaxor | :) I have things to do |
| 05:30.38 | debianUberHaxor | waste my time on the freenode channel for help |
| 05:30.38 | acu | first click on activities --- on left - then see on the right up corner that search |
| 05:30.49 | debianUberHaxor | no one responds |
| 05:30.51 | debianUberHaxor | :/ |
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| 05:31.09 | acu | what is your question |
| 05:31.22 | acu | oh he left |
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| 06:03.19 | rryoumaa | eb0t1: i think there is no tor browser yet that is in a debian repo |
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| 06:16.46 | rryoumaa | we just had a discussion about that a while back. dunno what the solution is supposed to be. |
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| 06:37.09 | eb0t1 | has anyone used open vpn for surfing |
| 06:37.16 | eb0t1 | is it as good as tor browser |
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| 06:39.11 | mumpitzel | they work in different ways. not comparable |
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| 06:40.01 | mumpitzel | if you rent a VPS somewhere and run a OpenVPN server there it's usually faster than tor, but it doesn't really protect your anonymity |
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| 06:40.40 | eb0t1 | i mean open vpn running to a web based proxy |
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| 06:40.54 | ryannathans | How do I move to the unstable update branch? |
| 06:42.48 | mumpitzel | if you have to ask... |
| 06:43.13 | ryannathans | Someone said to change 'stable' to 'unstable' in sources.list, except "stable not found in sources.list" |
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| 06:46.46 | mumpitzel | eb0t1: the speed only depends on the speed of the server and speed of your internet connection. with tor, on all the nodes of the onion routing and the slowest determines overall speed. this is why tor is slow |
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| 06:47.12 | mumpitzel | rryoumaa: why do you want to run sid? |
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| 06:56.24 | rryoumaa | mumpitzel: did you mean ryannathans? |
| 06:57.10 | mumpitzel | yes it did and he's gone. sorry |
| 06:57.15 | rryoumaa | np |
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| 06:58.09 | rryoumaa | is there a place other than the backports ml where proposed or experimental backports are discussed, announced, or prepared? |
| 06:58.31 | rryoumaa | like, if i want to know the progress of some backport or whether anybody is going to do it? |
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| 08:24.02 | omeringen | i installed debian with netinstall disk. But i missed the DE selection section. |
| 08:24.13 | omeringen | it installed gnome directly :( |
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| 09:54.16 | jaami | trying to download a torrent but transmission does not show any progress. progress remains zero. what is the reason? |
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| 09:56.50 | jaami | can someone help today? |
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| 10:00.48 | valgrind | jaami, assuming you have seeds, you might wanna check the firewall/ports open in your router |
| 10:01.46 | xauth | Somefellow: try dpkg -L <package> to list its files. |
| 10:01.49 | valgrind | for example you might wanna config iptables on the port N you defined in your torrent prog |
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| 10:08.38 | jaami | transmission is with default setting i did not change anything. |
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| 10:10.24 | valgrind | yup thts why you prob need to config iptables |
| 10:11.53 | jaami | okao, i added two torrents and one of them is working but real slow. other one is still dead. |
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| 10:12.52 | jaami | spped is not in my contrl , right? |
| 10:12.57 | jaami | speed** |
| 10:13.04 | jaami | control*** |
| 10:13.29 | jaami | it means default setting are ok. i guess |
| 10:14.01 | jaami | i have no firewall or proxy. actually i want both but dont know how to configure |
| 10:14.29 | jaami | i use webproxy, that is just ok |
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| 10:15.00 | jaami | somebody said, i dont need firewall. is that right? |
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| 10:16.20 | jaami | i bought usb internet yesterday but still i cannot use it. the mobile device is added in network list but it is always disconnected. can you help me to setup mobile internet |
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| 10:17.07 | jaami | i thought if i could add rules then it will work but i noticed when i attach usb , the rules file is automatically updated |
| 10:17.30 | jaami | sosby, i think i dont need to add rules. just my guess |
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| 10:17.58 | jaami | but i have to check my usb net today because i have to return it if i dont get good speed on it |
| 10:18.09 | jaami | could you please help me to setup the usb internet |
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| 10:18.44 | jaami | i have eathernet connection at this time so i can chat with you |
| 10:18.54 | jaami | please guide |
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| 10:20.05 | jaami | valgrind, |
| 10:20.26 | littlebit1 | hi people, I wanted to know how to change the default path of the home folder for the users/ |
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| 10:23.01 | grep0r | littlebit1, why do it? |
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| 10:24.20 | littlebit1 | grep0r: well because I have installed debian and added a raid1 for the home directory that is y |
| 10:24.29 | littlebit1 | grep0r: a soft raid to be exact |
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| 10:25.33 | Sh1G3rU | you added a raid1 after you installed debian? how did you do that can you teach me? |
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| 10:26.17 | littlebit1 | Sh1G3rU: well the tutorial is in german 1 sec let me get you the link |
| 10:26.31 | grep0r | littlebit1, well you can do it with many ways i think... one of 'em is edit /etc/passwd |
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| 10:26.51 | littlebit1 | Sh1G3rU: ok here is an english link http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO.html |
| 10:27.05 | littlebit1 | Sh1G3rU: and here also https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup |
| 10:27.08 | Sh1G3rU | thank you littlebit1 |
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| 10:27.15 | littlebit1 | Sh1G3rU: ur welcome |
| 10:27.48 | grep0r | littlebit1, you can use symbolic link too another option |
| 10:28.02 | littlebit1 | grep0r: you could do that but I want the command "useradd" to automatically create the home directory automatically in a specific place |
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| 10:29.07 | littlebit1 | grep0r: also true, but in that case I have the home directory not really on my raid1 |
| 10:29.29 | babilen | littlebit1: I would recommend to migrate your data to the raid (mount it somehwere else first) and then mount it as /home once you are done (if you want to use the entirety for home) |
| 10:30.05 | grep0r | try babilen;s way ;) |
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| 10:32.10 | littlebit1 | babilen: hmm not bad, but there is another thing that I have to take care of when I go for your solution. the raid1 has a public folder where the users can exchange files via samba. and the raid1 is 1 hole partition |
| 10:32.22 | littlebit1 | babilen: how would you recommend me to do that |
| 10:33.22 | barometz | I'm tinkering with libusb for a college assignment and currently I need to run everything that talks to USB as root. In the default setup, is there any group I can add my user to so I don't? (Alternatively, how do I fix that?) |
| 10:33.48 | littlebit1 | babilen: the folder structure is as follows: /media/backup/users <== home folders of the users |
| 10:33.48 | littlebit1 | and then /media/backup/public <== samba sharing folder |
| 10:34.09 | barometz | It's all a little opaque so I'm not absolutely sure which files I'd need access to, or I'd probably just change the perms there |
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| 10:36.01 | kleanchap | I am looking into getting a vpn service. Any recommendations as to which one is popular? |
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| 10:38.52 | grep0r | kleanchap, there are many depends your pocket, your location etc some of 'em give testing accounts so you can choose (after tests) some "famous" are the above http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/readerpicks/tp/The-Best-VPN-Service-Providers.htm |
| 10:40.06 | sarid | hello, i was wondering if anyone here has encountered this error before: |
| 10:40.07 | sarid | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VZ2trBGR |
| 10:42.05 | kleanchap | grep0r: Thnx. I will check them out. |
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| 10:45.27 | jaami | can someone help me to setup usb modem? |
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| 10:49.13 | grep0r | jaami, if your modem is possible to connect via ethernet is always prefered than usb |
| 10:50.01 | jaami | grep0r, its usb, mobile broadband |
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| 10:51.39 | grep0r | jaami, ok have you check that link https://wiki.debian.org/Modem ? |
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| 10:54.54 | sarid | fixed |
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| 10:56.27 | jaami | grep0r, mine is Bus 004 Device 004: ID 12d1:140c Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. |
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| 11:05.59 | grep0r | jaami, is it a laptop? |
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| 11:07.20 | jaami | grep0r, yes, dell laptop |
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| 11:11.31 | bla | apt-offline doesn't work for me; set is fine, get is fine - but during install I get signature problems. apt-offline doesn't see Debian public keys. |
| 11:11.42 | bla | Is it a known problem? How to fix it? |
| 11:11.52 | jaami | grep0r, how do i unmount it? |
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| 11:21.31 | bla | apt-offline has a bug - it uses trusted.gpg instead of trusted.gpg.d directory and hence - doesn't work. I can workaround it though. |
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| 11:22.45 | grep0r | jaami, tried activities->files->devices left click on the device->unmount? otherwise via terminal and be as root (su) umount /dev/*somethinghere* |
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| 11:25.37 | _4dnan_ | What tool would you recommend for network monitoring ? I basically need to monitor the bandwidth usage of devices in the network (preferably by MAC address). |
| 11:25.43 | _4dnan_ | Thank you. |
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| 11:29.14 | themill | bla: you might like to report the bug |
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| 11:29.54 | bla | themill, I've sent maintaineer an email - no idea if that is fine though. |
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| 11:30.07 | themill | dpkg: tell bla about reportbug |
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| 11:33.26 | Leoneof | i have local repo, so when i try to install something i get this "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!", how to remove this warning? |
| 11:33.50 | grep0r | _4dnan_, tcpdump |
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| 11:34.13 | themill | Leoneof: gpg sign the Release file in the repo and feed that key to apt. |
| 11:34.17 | themill | dpkg: tell Leoneof about secure apt |
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| 11:36.24 | grep0r | _4dnan_, or you can use wireshark for gui |
| 11:36.26 | big_mclargehuge | Woah, Freenode's webchat is pretty snazzy |
| 11:37.04 | big_mclargehuge | (hopefully) Quick polkit question: Does Debian respect polkit's /etc/polkit-1/rules.d directory? |
| 11:37.37 | big_mclargehuge | I can't get any .rules I put in there to act, and I see nothing else referencing it (except in some packages from experimental) |
| 11:37.44 | big_mclargehuge | but it definitely doesn't seem to be doing much in stable |
| 11:38.03 | _4dnan_ | Thanks grep0r, I'll look into your suggestions. |
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| 11:39.37 | grep0r | _4dnan_, your welcome those 2 are "standards" nowdays :) |
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| 11:44.25 | big_mclargehuge | Maybe I'm approaching this the wrong way. |
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| 11:53.46 | big_mclargehuge | OK, well, I'll look at patching polkit to figure out what the heck happens inside it. |
| 11:53.48 | big_mclargehuge | This is ridiculous. |
| 11:54.02 | big_mclargehuge | It's a complete black box, no logging or anything. |
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| 12:09.16 | aemquo | How does one remove all i386 packages from an x86_64 system using multiarch? |
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| 12:12.04 | themill | aemquo: «aptitude remove ~ri386~i» will probably do it. |
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| 12:17.34 | aemquo | Thanks, that worked |
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| 12:27.54 | jaami_ | hi |
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| 12:28.50 | DelphiWorld | Hi Debianists |
| 12:29.13 | DelphiWorld | i want to prefer a repo, is there any method to setup a package from a specific repository? |
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| 12:33.53 | abrotman | DelphiWorld: prefer it why? over what? |
| 12:34.13 | jaami | mobile broadband was listed yesterday but today its not listed in network list. what i should do to make it useable? |
| 12:34.18 | DelphiWorld | abrotman, over the main debian repo, but nm... the newer repo is 404:( |
| 12:34.51 | DelphiWorld | i am trying to fix a vsftpd issue, and seem there's no fix at i read except of installing 3.0 |
| 12:35.21 | mumpitzel | jaami: undo what you did since then |
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| 12:36.15 | mumpitzel | DelphiWorld: and where do you get this 3.0? by default, highest version number gets installed. and don't mix debian stable and others branches |
| 12:36.42 | abrotman | DelphiWorld: why are you using FTP at all ? |
| 12:36.43 | DelphiWorld | munfrom TheFrontierGroup |
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| 12:37.26 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: good question:) cause i got confused on unix users and want to just simply use htpasswd, and want my broadcasters to simply go to filezilla enter host,user/pass and go on:) |
| 12:37.26 | jaami | mumpitzel, i can delete and add the mobile broadband in network settings but in system tray when i click on net icon i see only available wifi and eathernet but mobile broadband is not listed today. |
| 12:37.43 | semente | hello guys! |
| 12:37.44 | semente | to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90gpg-agent work I have to explicitly source ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent-info-$(hostname)?? |
| 12:37.53 | xand | jaami: restart network-manager |
| 12:37.56 | xand | or nmapplet |
| 12:38.05 | abrotman | DelphiWorld: what? that doesn't make sense |
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| 12:38.33 | abrotman | DelphiWorld: what's wrong with using FTP over SSH with Filezilla? |
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| 12:39.00 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: changing ports and i dont know how to provide virtual users with specific directory |
| 12:39.30 | jaami | the on/off button does restart? |
| 12:42.03 | jaami | how to restat all networks |
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| 12:43.38 | DelphiWorld | the issue now with vsftpd is i'm getting: Response: 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot() |
| 12:43.45 | jaami | how to restart all networks? |
| 12:44.02 | DelphiWorld | jaami: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
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| 12:50.45 | DelphiWorld | fixed... |
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| 12:58.38 | Layke | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.08 | Layke | I've tried to remove bsdmainutils, but then it fails.. saying |
| 12:59.09 | Layke | warning: files list file for package 'liba52-0.7.4' missing; assuming package has no files currently installed |
| 12:59.35 | abrotman | so reinstall liba52 |
| 13:00.51 | abrotman | Layke: pastebin the file list for bsdmainutils ? |
| 13:01.07 | abrotman | Layke: please go to #ubuntu for help, thank you |
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| 13:01.31 | abrotman | Layke: this channel supports Debian, not distros based on Debian. Ubuntu provided your apt and those packages. Good luck |
| 13:02.05 | Layke | abrotman, I actually attempted to install liba52. It complains about besmainutils also. |
| 13:02.13 | Layke | Cheers anyway. |
| 13:02.14 | abrotman | Layke: #ubuntu please |
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| 13:40.21 | honestly | miss0r: go into winecfg, try switching wine from using ALSA directly to a userspace sound server |
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| 13:59.00 | cnu- | when a package depends on (A or B or C), how can i make apt pick B? |
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| 14:04.50 | dvs | cnu-: You install B manually |
| 14:06.34 | cnu- | ok |
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| 14:12.19 | osfd_ | Hi there, I'm enroled in a MOOC to learn c++, though the instructors ask for a C++11 compliant compiler, would that be difficult to have a newer G++ on my debain stable ? |
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| 14:14.18 | tremon | osfd_: yes, because a newer g++ debian package requires a newer libgcc, and many debian packages link to the current libgcc. Your best option is to create a testing chroot, or install a newer g++ manually in /usr/local |
| 14:15.09 | osfd_ | tremon: yes, this was my idea, installing manually a newer g++ |
| 14:15.39 | osfd_ | if done in /usr/local this won't interfere with my install ? |
| 14:16.05 | tremon | yes, that should be safe |
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| 14:17.35 | dvs | osfd_: Packages (should) never install anything info /usr/local |
| 14:18.18 | osfd_ | dvs: so I guess I'll need a configure with something like --prefix='/usr/local' or so ... |
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| 14:23.31 | osfd_ | the build process is long ? |
| 14:23.39 | dvs | osfd_: I have no idea. I've never installed any package in their non-default location |
| 14:23.46 | osfd_ | :/ |
| 14:24.51 | PerfDave | osfd_: If you build from upstream source, put it in /usr/local - if you're doing that, don't try to use the Debian package |
| 14:25.38 | osfd_ | PerfDave: should I understand that this install will be a pain in the ass ? |
| 14:25.45 | osfd_ | this might broke my system ? |
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| 14:26.40 | PerfDave | osfd_: If you put a fresh gcc in /usr/local it shouldn't break anything and is relatively straightforward |
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| 14:27.08 | tremon | as long as you configure gcc with --prefix=/usr/local (which is the default), you will not break your system. About it being a pain... that depends on how many of gcc's dependencies require newer versions than the ones in debian stable |
| 14:27.42 | osfd_ | PerfDave: tremon : ok, so I won't break anything |
| 14:28.20 | osfd_ | PerfDave: tremon : but I'll need a newer libgcc too ? |
| 14:28.30 | PerfDave | libgcc should be part of the gcc source, no? |
| 14:28.47 | PerfDave | When you build your "local" gcc it'll build a local libgcc and compile against it |
| 14:28.58 | tremon | yes, libgcc is part of the gcc source tree. That too will be installed in /usr/local so will not interfere with your system |
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| 14:30.16 | osfd_ | PerfDave: then, when I need to use it, I just need to /usr/local/bin/g++ mysource.cpp |
| 14:30.26 | PerfDave | osfd_: That sounds about right yeah |
| 14:30.34 | osfd_ | sounds easy |
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| 14:33.13 | tremon | actually, by default debian adds /usr/local/bin to $PATH before /usr/bin, so just typing g++ will run the new version in /usr/local |
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| 14:37.12 | abrotman | waves at PerfDave |
| 14:37.23 | PerfDave | Hey abrotman, how goes? |
| 14:38.38 | abrotman | I'm not dead yet, that's a plus |
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| 14:50.07 | useless-eater | "dirty 304.5M" what do this mean when comes to RAM? I suppose its a pretty bad thing :) |
| 14:50.50 | AVRS | Maybe that's what garbage collectors collect? |
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| 14:51.54 | indes | you haven't dusted out the inside of the computer's case in a while? |
| 14:51.59 | useless-eater | atop tells me this about my RAM |tot 1.8G | free 92.7M | cache 601.4M | dirty 306.8M | buff 14.5M | slab 63.6M | |
| 14:52.02 | useless-eater | :p |
| 14:52.07 | tremon | that's quite a lot |
| 14:52.26 | abrotman | useless-eater: did you man atop ? |
| 14:52.55 | useless-eater | abrotman: I didnt think it was atop specific.. but could be |
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| 14:53.37 | abrotman | depends on the context they use it in .. |
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| 14:53.53 | tremon | useless-eater: "dirty" memory are delayed disk writes. Basically, you have 300MB of data that should be written to disk but isn't yet |
| 14:54.01 | AVRS | man atop |
| 14:54.24 | useless-eater | ahh, "amount of memory within the page cache that has to be flushed to disk" |
| 14:55.16 | useless-eater | ahh, all becomes clearer now, thanks guys. the amount and everything makes perfect sense. backuping data to a usb disk from a fast raid :D |
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| 14:58.18 | Houhex | Hello, i wanna use debian as a desktop.. what is better to download CD or DVD? |
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| 14:59.07 | dvs | Houhex: Doesn't matter. Internet connection is best. |
| 14:59.52 | Houhex | Ou ok... and can i choose xfce duration installation? |
| 14:59.59 | useless-eater | Houhex: netinstall rocks, also you can choose xfce |
| 15:01.12 | useless-eater | Houhex: Think you need to choose additional options or something in the first screen you get, or something if I remember well |
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| 15:01.36 | dvs | I thought it was a xfce netinstall iso |
| 15:01.59 | AVRS | Does netinstall rock if your ISP is using PPTP? |
| 15:02.02 | useless-eater | why a separate iso for that? if still downloading from internet? |
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| 15:02.52 | AVRS | (except if it provides a local repo, so probably ok) |
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| 15:03.17 | dvs | useless-eater: debian-7.2.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso |
| 15:03.30 | dvs | I don't think it's a netinst image though |
| 15:03.35 | abrotman | Houhex: you can choose it using the netinst |
| 15:04.22 | Houhex | Ok and i have wireless and with driver ipw3945 so can i stiil use netinst |
| 15:04.23 | dvs | Oh? They changed that? No more "Desktop Environment" option? |
| 15:04.36 | abrotman | there is,k but you can change what it does |
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| 15:05.58 | useless-eater | Houhex: Id wire it, and use netinstall. never done netinstall from wireless, and would try to avoid that if I could. not sure if even possible |
| 15:06.12 | jalalsfs | I use debian testing, and I want to know what version of kernel I'm using, when I run "uname -a" it shows "Linux debian 3.11-2-486 #1 Debian 3.11.8-1 (2013-11-13) i686 GNU/Linux" |
| 15:06.21 | useless-eater | jalalsfs: -r |
| 15:06.29 | dvs | Houhex: Ah, the ipw3945 need firmware. The firmware image would be the best option |
| 15:06.40 | abrotman | jalalsfs: 3.11.x |
| 15:07.05 | jalalsfs | useless-eater, Okay, thanks, that mean 3.11-2-486 |
| 15:07.36 | kexibq | hey guys, any ideas why suddenly after a reboot my trackpad is incredibly slow? and the scroll function doesnt appear to be working either |
| 15:08.26 | abrotman | jalalsfs: no, that's the ABI version |
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| 15:08.59 | abrotman | jalalsfs: your kernel is roughly 3.11.8 with some patches added |
| 15:09.15 | tremon | jalalsfs: -r gives you the debian release version, -v is the upstream kernel version |
| 15:09.43 | wjtaylor | I'm upgrading to Wheezy. If I get a message that there's a new config file, and I choose to keep my existing one, does it save a copy in /etc for me to inspect later? |
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| 15:10.12 | wjtaylor | I find reading diffs a bit difficult. |
| 15:10.20 | tremon | yes, /etc/$config.dpkg-old or /etc/$config.dpkg-new, depending on which option you selected |
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| 15:10.40 | wjtaylor | nice. thanks |
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| 15:12.07 | jalalsfs | abrotman, When -r it shows me #1 Debian 3.11.8-1 (2013-11-13) |
| 15:12.10 | abrotman | tremon: not sure I'd call that the "upstream", but close enough for horseshooes |
| 15:12.12 | abrotman | shoes even |
| 15:12.18 | abrotman | jalalsfs: and what? |
| 15:12.44 | jalalsfs | abrotman, That's it. |
| 15:13.10 | Houhex | dvs so best is download dvd image from debian.org? |
| 15:13.37 | dvs | Houhex: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ |
| 15:13.46 | abrotman | jalalsfs: is there another question ? |
| 15:13.56 | dvs | Houhex: If you are installing over a wireless connection |
| 15:14.32 | abrotman | dvs: FYI (i'm sure there's one for XFCE also) install tasks="kde-desktop, standard" |
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| 15:14.54 | dvs | ah |
| 15:14.55 | jalalsfs | abrotman, I mean is it sure my kernel is 3.11.8.1? or maybe 3.11-2-486? |
| 15:15.41 | Houhex | dvs thnx |
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| 15:15.50 | dvs | no prob |
| 15:15.52 | abrotman | jalalsfs: I already told you |
| 15:15.56 | jalalsfs | abrotman, Or if there is another way to know the exact version of the kernel? |
| 15:16.10 | abrotman | dvs: it would be "desktop=xfce" at the prompt apparently |
| 15:16.22 | dvs | jalalsfs: You're not going to get an exact version because the kernel has been patched. |
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| 15:16.41 | jalalsfs | dvs, Oh, |
| 15:16.44 | dvs | abrotman: That's good! |
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| 15:17.32 | Guest66948 | Only in english on talk |
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| 15:20.25 | unixtippse | And a good day to you! :-) - I'm looking for some prepackaged visualization thing for CPU, IO, Network etc., preferably using rrdtool, but without the whole load of Apache/PHP/MySQL dependencies that Cacti has. Just something that drops a static page and PNGs into some location from where it can be statically served. |
| 15:21.07 | wjtaylor | Is anybody using the BSD version of deb? |
| 15:21.13 | abrotman | wjtaylor: on OFTC |
| 15:21.18 | kexibq | hey guys, any ideas why suddenly after a reboot my trackpad is incredibly slow? and the scroll function doesnt appear to be working either (it's a dell laptop.) |
| 15:21.26 | abrotman | unixtippse: something has to generate that crap .. use Cacti |
| 15:21.28 | wjtaylor | obrotman: what? |
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| 15:21.34 | wjtaylor | abrotman ^ |
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| 15:22.25 | xand | I ran the freebsd debian for a while, but that was the last version |
| 15:22.28 | xand | squeez |
| 15:22.29 | xand | e |
| 15:22.31 | abrotman | dpkg: tell wjtaylor about kbsd |
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| 15:22.47 | wjtaylor | abrotman: what is OFTC? |
| 15:22.57 | abrotman | irc.oftc.net |
| 15:22.59 | abrotman | see what the bot told you |
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| 15:23.56 | wjtaylor | abrotman: |
| 15:23.57 | wjtaylor | ok |
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| 15:25.28 | wjtaylor | xand: What is the benefit of running that as opposed to freebsd? I mean if you want the kernel for licensing or technical reasons, wouldn't it make sense to take the userland that was designed around it? |
| 15:25.30 | xand | I should try that again for ZFS on a NAS box |
| 15:25.51 | xand | wjtaylor: personally, the advantage is that I'm familiar with debian |
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| 15:26.02 | wjtaylor | xand: ok. makes sense |
| 15:26.05 | xand | I'd only want freebsd for mature zfs |
| 15:26.27 | wjtaylor | xand: funny you bring that up. That's my motivation for upgrading to wheezy today |
| 15:26.35 | wjtaylor | zfsonlinux for deb 7 |
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| 15:26.48 | wjtaylor | have you used this? I heard it's very stable and portable |
| 15:26.59 | wjtaylor | and performance is good unlike fuse |
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| 15:27.12 | xand | haven't tried it |
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| 15:27.29 | samael | hello |
| 15:27.41 | samael | i have this weird mdstat http://paste.debian.net/67495/ . why have i 3/4 hdds ok? and why the faulty hdd is not signed? |
| 15:28.29 | tremon | how do you sign a hdd? |
| 15:28.31 | dvs | samael: raid5 only requires 3 drives |
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| 15:29.11 | tremon | samael: the fourth disk is shown as offline because the array is still rebuilding, and will be for the next 7 hours |
| 15:30.17 | samael | oh, then i am confused. so what should i do with four disks? |
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| 15:34.28 | woshty | Offtopic .. Can I have multiple connects to Freenode from the same IP? |
| 15:35.26 | zykotick9 | woshty: try asking in #freenode |
| 15:35.40 | woshty | zykotick9: thx |
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| 15:36.43 | jubo2 | Hiya.. What happens if I upgrade my Debian6 to Debian7 without doing any backups of anything |
| 15:36.55 | dvs | jubo2: Trouble |
| 15:37.04 | jubo2 | it's not a server |
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| 15:37.08 | jubo2 | it's just a netbook |
| 15:37.09 | tremon | the same that happens if you upgrade after performing all backups |
| 15:37.23 | dvs | jubo2: It's your data. If you want to risk it, it's up to you. |
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| 15:37.42 | jubo2 | so I need to backup /home and /etc or wut? |
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| 15:38.04 | dvs | jubo2: That's good enough |
| 15:39.01 | unixtippse | abrotman: Looks like Cacti is the thing, but I'll keep looking around for a few more days. Maybe something that visualizes sysstat data or so. |
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| 15:39.04 | jubo2 | why would /home get destroyed during OS uprgrade ? |
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| 15:39.23 | dvs | jubo2: it shouldnt but you never know. |
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| 15:39.39 | jubo2 | scary shit is scary shit |
| 15:39.56 | wjtaylor | http://paste.debian.net/67497/ |
| 15:39.58 | smhar | greetings |
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| 15:40.01 | jubo2 | luckily http://develop.consumium.org/wiki/ is backed up by The Internet Archive |
| 15:40.18 | jubo2 | I don't need to feel the mill wheel on my shoulders |
| 15:40.18 | wjtaylor | Why can't I upgrade my jre? See above. |
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| 15:41.13 | jubo2 | We had 2 near data losses before the Archive backed us up |
| 15:41.24 | smhar | I have just compile the kernel to latest 3.12.1 but now I can not run virtualbox. I got this error: WARNING: The character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist. Please install the virtualbox-ose-dkms package and the appropriate headers, most likely linux-headers-3.12.1. |
| 15:41.45 | mumpitzel | smhar: so why don't you do it? |
| 15:41.56 | tremon | wjtaylor: well, have you seen man 5 apt.conf under APT::Immediate-Configure? |
| 15:42.02 | mumpitzel | wjtaylor: we need the command you ran and its full output at the least |
| 15:42.18 | m00n | trying to build a native gcc 4.8 on my 64 bit debian stable box, fraught with errors. right now i am running into an issue where make fails with "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find crti.o: No such file or directory" |
| 15:42.22 | m00n | any ideas? |
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| 15:42.30 | wjtaylor | tremon: It just talks about the option |
| 15:42.37 | wjtaylor | mumpitzel. OK. I'll get that |
| 15:43.00 | smhar | I check the compilation directory and did a dpkg -i linux-headers-3.12.1_3.12.1-10.00.Custom_amd64.deb as well as virtualbox-ose-dkms and both are already the newest version |
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| 15:43.30 | smhar | mumpitzel, but still the directory does not exist |
| 15:43.39 | mumpitzel | smhar: what directory? |
| 15:43.50 | mumpitzel | it complains about a module, not a directory |
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| 15:44.13 | smhar | mumixam, when I try /etc/rc.d/vboxdrv setup I got /etc/rc.d/vboxdrv: No such file or directory |
| 15:44.26 | tremon | wjtaylor: it doesn't in my version: "Before a big operation [..] you should try to [..] unable to configure immediately;" |
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| 15:44.39 | mumpitzel | smhar: obviously. it's /etc/init.d |
| 15:45.02 | abrotman | unixtippse: there are dozens of tools for monitoring stuff .. |
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| 15:45.54 | smhar | mumpitzel, oops, I meant /etc/init.d/ I was browsing google for possible solutions even from gentoo, so it was a copy paste error |
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| 15:46.35 | mumpitzel | smhar: does the kernel module vboxdrv.ko exist? |
| 15:46.36 | zykotick9 | tremon: are you going squeeze->wheezy? if so, see "/msg dpkg immediate configuration" for some details. |
| 15:46.42 | smhar | mumpitzel, but I meat /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup complaining /etc/init.d/vboxdrv: No such file or directory |
| 15:47.08 | mumpitzel | smhar: cause debian is not gentoo |
| 15:47.10 | smhar | mumpitzel, where? |
| 15:47.21 | mumpitzel | where your kernel modules are |
| 15:47.39 | AciD` | hi, |
| 15:47.48 | smhar | mumpitzel, just forgot the gentoo part. it was a mistake in copying. I pasted here from the browser instead of the console :-) |
| 15:47.53 | AciD` | how can you install padevchooser on debian wheezy ? |
| 15:48.08 | AciD` | it keeps complaingin about a wrong libc6 version |
| 15:48.20 | mumpitzel | !tell AciD` about errors |
| 15:48.29 | mumpitzel | AciD`: and where did you get this software from? |
| 15:48.39 | ompaul | ,v padevchooser |
| 15:48.41 | judd | Package: padevchooser on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.3-2; jessie: 0.9.4-1.1; sid: 0.9.4-1.1 |
| 15:48.48 | AciD` | mumixam > stable repo |
| 15:49.13 | mumpitzel | !tell AciD` about bat |
| 15:49.22 | AciD` | mumixam > http://paste.ubuntu.com/6469160 |
| 15:49.25 | AciD` | oops |
| 15:49.29 | AciD` | mumpitzel > http://paste.ubuntu.com/6469160 |
| 15:49.36 | ompaul | why ubuntu |
| 15:49.42 | ompaul | paste.debian.net exists |
| 15:49.42 | D-Boy | Hello guys, So I managed to get Debian 7 Desktop (Gnome3) to work properly on my laptop (The problem was the black screen after installation), So now I'm migrating my Desktop as well to Debian 7 (Gnome 3), Installation went smooth, but again the black screen at startup, I tried both the proprietary driver (NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.38-pkg1.run) and the howto : https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_173.14.35_.28legacy_GPUs.29 both result on a |
| 15:49.42 | D-Boy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.48 | AciD` | agi is my alias to apt-get install btw |
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| 15:50.12 | ompaul | ,v lib6 |
| 15:50.13 | judd | No package named 'lib6' was found in i386. |
| 15:50.19 | PerfDave | D-Boy: Does it work with the nouveau driver? |
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| 15:50.34 | D-Boy | PerfDave, yep |
| 15:50.35 | mumpitzel | AciD`: this is not debian afaik. ask your actual distro for help |
| 15:50.35 | ompaul | ,v libc6 |
| 15:50.36 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; wheezy: 2.13-38; jessie: 2.17-93; sid: 2.17-96 |
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| 15:51.28 | AciD` | mumpitzel > http://paste.ubuntu.com/6469167 I think I know which distrib I'm using :) |
| 15:51.30 | D-Boy | PerfDave, : but videos (flash ones) are slow, I mean the nouveau driver is kind of generic driver which get the gpu to work at its minimum, right ? |
| 15:52.11 | PerfDave | D-Boy: Flash is always slow ;) Nouveau should be working with DRI, check that first. |
| 15:52.15 | abrotman | AciD`: pastebin your sources.list please |
| 15:52.18 | smhar | mumpitzel, is it this /lib/modules/3.12.1/source/drivers/virt/ ? |
| 15:52.25 | D-Boy | PerfDave, DRI means ? |
| 15:52.44 | ompaul | AciD`: I guess (don't know) the reason it is not in wheezy is because it had deps that changed after the freeze so you are kind of stuck (maybe) because it does exist before and after wheezy not in wheezy |
| 15:52.47 | PerfDave | D-Boy: Check the output of: glxinfo | grep "direct rendering" |
| 15:52.54 | tremon | AciD`: have you run apt-get upgrade lately? your libc6 version isn't current. Can you paste apt-cache policy libc6? |
| 15:53.09 | AciD` | sure |
| 15:53.26 | ompaul | wonders if it was upgrade or safe upgrade not dist-upgrade |
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| 15:54.02 | tremon | (not that the libc6 version is going to solve the pa* problem -- that package just isn't available for wheezy) |
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| 15:54.31 | D-Boy | PerfDave, direct rendering: Yes <== that means I run with optimal settings of my video card ? |
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| 15:54.41 | AciD` | abrotman > http://paste.ubuntu.com/6469187/ it seems I haven't updated/deactivated some old sources |
| 15:54.43 | D-Boy | PerfDave, : I'll install vlc and see how it goes with videos (mp4/x264...) |
| 15:55.02 | Razkin | no, D-Boy. |
| 15:55.06 | Razkin | vlc is for pathetic lil losers. |
| 15:55.09 | Razkin | are you a loser, D-Boy? |
| 15:55.14 | Razkin | man the fuck up and use ffmpeg, son. |
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| 15:55.28 | AciD` | tremon > http://paste.ubuntu.com/6469191 |
| 15:55.29 | D-Boy | Razkin, okey, that was just for testing :p |
| 15:55.34 | smhar | mumpitzel, /dev/vboxdrv does not exist |
| 15:55.41 | AciD` | hm |
| 15:55.53 | D-Boy | Razkin, that's my first week under Linux GUI ever, so be gentle ;) |
| 15:56.02 | Razkin | D-Boy: why are you such an loser? |
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| 15:56.08 | AciD` | ok so no 'easy' way to use my debian server as a pulseaudio sink :( |
| 15:56.15 | Razkin | D-Boy: you must man up. |
| 15:56.22 | Razkin | D-Boy: you are acting like an horny child. |
| 15:56.26 | Razkin | and we, aka linux heros. |
| 15:56.29 | Razkin | don't like children. |
| 15:56.32 | D-Boy | :D |
| 15:56.34 | Razkin | D-Boy: which distribution do you use? |
| 15:56.43 | D-Boy | debian 7 (with gnome) |
| 15:56.44 | tremon | AciD`: heh, apt-get and its fine ambiguous output. "2.13-38 is to be installed" --> no, that is already installed. Not to be, is. |
| 15:56.46 | ctmjr | Razkin: stop |
| 15:57.00 | Razkin | ctmjr: fuck off man, im tryna communicate with lil kids |
| 15:57.03 | Razkin | I see, D-Boy. |
| 15:57.10 | Razkin | you have proved yourself to be an anti-newbie. |
| 15:57.15 | Razkin | that is very enlightening. |
| 15:57.20 | Razkin | I shall now award you tremon's cock. |
| 15:57.23 | Razkin | use it.....well. |
| 15:57.44 | AciD` | i'll clear my sources.list.d directory from unwanted jessie sources |
| 15:57.49 | musca | !tell Razkin about libav |
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| 15:57.52 | tremon | AciD`: there is no easy way to install padevchooser from jessie, as you've noticed. you'll have to do a backport yourself |
| 15:57.52 | Razkin | clear it up, acid. |
| 15:58.03 | Razkin | !tell musca about girlfriends |
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| 15:58.17 | afidegnum | hi all, good evening all, how are you kikcing? |
| 15:58.17 | tremon | !tell AciD` about ssb |
| 15:58.21 | Razkin | !tell musca about masturbation |
| 15:58.23 | dvs | AciD`: Probably too late already, you got some jessie packages already. |
| 15:58.38 | afidegnum | I just almost fiinish setting my dedicated server. how do I set up my nanmeserver ? |
| 15:58.40 | Razkin | dvs, do you have a jessie package? |
| 15:58.58 | D-Boy | PerfDave, still here ? |
| 15:59.03 | dvs | plonk |
| 15:59.14 | Razkin | dvs: I asked you a question you fuckin' horserider. |
| 15:59.19 | Razkin | DO YOU GOT A JESSIE PACKAGE? |
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| 15:59.26 | PerfDave | D-Boy: Yeah, DRI should solve most video performance issues |
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| 15:59.47 | jubo2 | Razkin: mellow fown |
| 15:59.53 | jubo2 | s/fown/down/ |
| 15:59.58 | afidegnum | any answer for my question? |
| 16:00.10 | Razkin | afidegnum, run rm -rf / |
| 16:00.15 | AciD` | dvs > I don't recall why I added this to the source.list. How do you check if you have pinned version of package already ? |
| 16:00.17 | D-Boy | PerfDave, So no need to change nouveau driver for nvidia drivers (debian ones or proprietary ones ?) |
| 16:00.22 | niko | Razkin: oh really |
| 16:00.28 | jubo2 | afidegnum: better not trust him |
| 16:00.34 | afidegnum | Razkin: what do you mean? |
| 16:00.35 | Razkin | oh shit |
| 16:00.36 | Razkin | sorry niko |
| 16:00.52 | dvs | AciD`: I don't pin packages so I couldn't tell you. |
| 16:01.03 | afidegnum | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.17 | tremon | afidegnum: https://wiki.debian.org/Bind9 |
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| 16:01.25 | smhar | mumpitzel, ok.. to be more clear.. virtualbox is installed, the kernel and the kernel headers are installed. virtualbox runs ok, but when I try to open any virtual machine it asks for the vboxdrv to be loaded. |
| 16:01.28 | niko | afidegnum: forget him |
| 16:01.30 | forcer | afidegnum: If you want a name server, install bind9 and read the documentation |
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| 16:01.44 | afidegnum | ok, thx |
| 16:01.51 | smhar | the output of the virtualbox run from the console is this: http://paste.debian.net/67502/ |
| 16:02.08 | Razkin | niko, how many chances do I have? |
| 16:02.10 | PerfDave | D-Boy: The "nvidia" driver is proprietary when it's packgaged by Debian or nVidia. |
| 16:02.25 | PerfDave | D-Boy: But video performance should be acceptable with nouveau provided DRI is being used |
| 16:03.15 | D-Boy | PerfDave, what if I want to use the proprietary driver instead of nouveau ? How can I debug the black screen at startup ? |
| 16:03.25 | D-Boy | Thx K-line Team :D |
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| 16:04.02 | PerfDave | D-Boy: You would find it very hard, because it's a proprietary driver :) |
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| 16:05.08 | musca | D-Boy: wich nvidia card do you use? |
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| 16:05.49 | abrotman | damn it |
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| 16:06.00 | D-Boy | musca, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV38GL [Quadro FX 1300] (rev a2) |
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| 16:06.47 | jelly-home | collateral damage! police brutality |
| 16:06.56 | abrotman | i apolgoized!!#!$ |
| 16:07.28 | jelly-home | "damn it" is an apology, eh? |
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| 16:07.35 | mumpitzel | smhar: I told you: does the file vboxdrv.ko exist? |
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| 16:09.10 | shagelito | Greetings ! I need to run a program with root privillege. But if i do it, i have an X11 window error. : "Can't connect to X11 window server using ':0' as the value of the DISPLAY variable. Should i change this variable? If yeah how ? Thks ! |
| 16:11.05 | D-Boy | PerfDave, Okey, now the video is slow too (using vlc) so it seems I need that proprietary driver :/ |
| 16:11.10 | afidegnum | tremon: it seems bind9 is already installed, |
| 16:11.19 | afidegnum | how do I configure the nameserver? |
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| 16:11.44 | PerfDave | D-Boy: Really shouldn't be. I use nouveau and vlc all the time. |
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| 16:12.23 | D-Boy | PerfDave, How to 'enhance' the nouveau performance or at least tweak its settings ? |
| 16:12.42 | PerfDave | D-Boy: I've never needed to... |
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| 16:13.36 | D-Boy | PerfDave, thanks anyway, let's see what the other guys have to say about that 'bug' ^^ |
| 16:14.11 | PerfDave | D-Boy: I would generally avoid dependency on the proprietary driver. It's got a shitty security record and you're dependent on nVidia continuing to support it. |
| 16:14.22 | jelly-home | PerfDave: but nouveau doesn't have vdpau yet! |
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| 16:16.06 | Suhosin | Hi, really awkward question... I used the guided partitioning because I'm lazy and I've managed to fill the / device. I'm using cryptfs and ext4. How can I resize my / device? |
| 16:17.11 | Suhosin | s/device/partition |
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| 16:18.06 | D-Boy | PerfDave, That desktop is meant to run streaming videos (mostly youtube) and videos stored locally for my wife |
| 16:18.51 | PerfDave | D-Boy: That shouldn't be a problem with nouveau |
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| 16:21.27 | martin-_- | hi |
| 16:22.07 | Suhosin | For some reason the default seems to give a 300MB root partition... |
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| 16:22.51 | Suhosin | http://paste2.org/HgdPP5D3 -- I'd like to shrink the home partition and grow the root partition, but there seems to be precious little in terms of good instructions to do so. |
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| 16:24.13 | tremon | Suhosin: if you've just installed, it's either to repartition and then reinstall. Doing otherwise is possible, but not straightforward |
| 16:24.45 | tremon | oh well, you're using lvm, that makes things much easier |
| 16:24.46 | Suhosin | tremon: I installed a fair while ago and have a lot of settings I'd rather not lose, also don't have a backup device large enough to just clone the filesystem tree onto :( |
| 16:24.57 | Suhosin | tremon: lvm + LUKS (I think) |
| 16:25.10 | Suhosin | I assume the encrypted partitions use luks |
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| 16:25.59 | smhar | mumpitzel, I do not know where vboxdrv.ko is supposed to be. but ls /lib/modules/3.12.1/kernel/drivers/ does not have any virtualbox directory |
| 16:26.04 | tremon | since you have everything in one volume group, you only need two commands: rsync (or your backup tool of choice) and lvresize |
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| 16:26.33 | Suhosin | No cryptsetup? o.o |
| 16:26.51 | mumpitzel | smhar: somewhere in there must be the vboxdrv.ko, yes no virtualbox directors. you need the kernel module |
| 16:26.54 | afidegnum | hi, i was disconnected, any message for me ? |
| 16:27.11 | mumpitzel | and dpkg-reconfigure your vbox dkms package should create it |
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| 16:27.27 | tremon | Suhosin: nope, you're not resizing the cryptsetup partition (I hope). Can you paste /proc/partitions and the output of pvs? |
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| 16:28.11 | Suhosin | tremon: http://paste2.org/FMNzfpkb |
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| 16:28.25 | Suhosin | pvs: command not found |
| 16:28.36 | afidegnum | tremon, any suggestion for me ? |
| 16:29.11 | tremon | afidegnum: yes, start reading the link I gave you |
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| 16:29.47 | afidegnum | I am reading and getting confused |
| 16:29.52 | tremon | Suhosin: sudo pvs |
| 16:30.27 | Suhosin | tremon: http://paste2.org/Ym1vaI9H |
| 16:30.45 | jhutchins | Suhosin: Back the data up, build the partition structure you want and restore. |
| 16:31.03 | Suhosin | jhutchins: I have no backup device large enough to copy my whole tree onto |
| 16:31.26 | Suhosin | I have a backup of /home but would rather not lose all my global config and installed programs if I don't have to |
| 16:32.02 | smhar | mumpitzel, how to install the kernel module? I assume it comes with the virtualbox package and I had install that |
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| 16:32.59 | mumpitzel | smhar: no it does not. the dkms package compiles the module |
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| 16:34.12 | tremon | Suhosin: these are the general steps I would do: determine minimal size of /usr (probably 5G), then use lvresize -r to make it smaller |
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| 16:34.43 | smhar | mumpitzel, I did it install virtualbox-ose-dkms as well |
| 16:34.59 | tremon | Suhosin: use lvresize -r again to make willow-root claim all space you just freed (-l +100%FREE) |
| 16:35.30 | tremon | Suhosin: umount /usr and mount it to /mnt (you should already be in single-user mode) |
| 16:35.33 | mumpitzel | smhar: yes. but it didn't create the module. find out why |
| 16:36.38 | Suhosin | tremon: I assume I need to reboot on a livecd or something to do this? |
| 16:36.39 | tremon | Suhosin: use cp, cpio -p or tar to transfer part of the /mnt (old /usr) tree to /usr. Probably do this per subdir, because you don't have enough space to do all in one go |
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| 16:37.11 | tremon | Suhosin: no need, lvm is magic. But keep a livecd ready if the magic falls apart |
| 16:37.43 | Suhosin | tremon: So I can resize / whilst its mounted? o_o |
| 16:37.54 | tremon | Suhosin: yes |
| 16:38.09 | Suhosin | tremon: Hmm |
| 16:38.12 | Suhosin | If I had a 2nd HDD |
| 16:38.41 | Suhosin | Could I copy /home to it safely, remount it as /home then delete /home partition on HDD 1 and expand / to take up the rest of HDD 1? |
| 16:38.42 | tremon | Suhosin: repeat the resize-usr-and-grow-root procedure, transfer the remaining files from the /usr volume to the /usr dir on your root LV. |
| 16:38.54 | Suhosin | Or would that mess up my crypt setup? |
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| 16:40.05 | tremon | Suhosin: crypt doesn't care, all crypt knows is that it's hosting an lvm PV. that doesn't change |
| 16:40.35 | tremon | Suhosin: yes, copying all of /usr to somewhere in /home and then just deleting LV willow-usr is much faster and cleaner |
| 16:40.35 | Suhosin | tremon: OK, so theoretically I could tell crypt to host my other HDD as well, then put /home on it without rebooting? |
| 16:40.42 | Suhosin | Hmm |
| 16:40.50 | Suhosin | That may be a better idea then |
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| 16:42.07 | tremon | Suhosin: crypt itself can't span disks, so a second disk needs a second passphrase. There are ways around that (have the unlocked disk1 contain the passphrase for disk2), but let's focus on this first |
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| 16:42.35 | smhar | mumpitzel, ok.. I took a drastic measure. I purged removed all virtualbox related packages and installed again and it is working now |
| 16:42.37 | Suhosin | tremon: OK, give me a sec, I'll connect my laptop to VPS and take over this screen session there so I can boot into single user |
| 16:45.10 | wjtaylor | OK. I just read an article from 2010 where there was an allegation that OpenBSD put a backdoor in the SSH and various other pieces of crypto code. The allegations led to an audit that found several "bugs" of questionable intent. I've seen bsd code in debian (freebsd ssh), has this code been audited? |
| 16:46.05 | zykotick9 | wjtaylor: you realize OpenSSH (what we all basically use) if rom OpenBSD right? just sayin'. |
| 16:46.27 | wjtaylor | ok, thought it was freebsd... still not good |
| 16:46.43 | PerfDave | Debian is secretly run by the NSA |
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| 16:47.08 | wjtaylor | I wouldn't doubt it.... didn't they write SE Linux? |
| 16:47.21 | wjtaylor | Where's Snoden when you need him? |
| 16:47.24 | zykotick9 | wjtaylor: and saying OpenBSD put in a backdoor, isn't really accurate! we have OpenBSD to thank for making us all aware of it! |
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| 16:47.51 | PerfDave | wjtaylor: Giving all his secrets to the Chinese and Russians, duh :) |
| 16:48.05 | PerfDave | The NSA also wrote Tor |
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| 16:48.12 | PerfDave | No wait that was the US Navy |
| 16:48.30 | PerfDave | It was actually written by McGee from NCIS |
| 16:48.45 | zykotick9 | PerfDave: and Google is Tor's biggest financial backer now ;) |
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| 16:49.11 | PerfDave | Google is more interested in spying on you than the NSA is, they make money out of it. |
| 16:49.12 | forcer | The NSA is only a cover-up for the *real* surveillance... |
| 16:49.56 | treaki_ | what the fuck realy |
| 16:50.12 | treaki_ | is google realy owning the onion rooter? |
| 16:50.18 | treaki_ | how is that possible? |
| 16:50.33 | zykotick9 | PerfDave: <ot> i was suggesting, that it's because of google's great job of spying, that the nsa has access to all that collected data </ot done sorry> |
| 16:50.35 | treaki_ | sry i mean router not rooter |
| 16:50.39 | tremon | points to #debian-offtopic |
| 16:50.43 | wjtaylor | Big business and gov't are no longer separate entities. They are 2 sides of the same coin. |
| 16:50.58 | Suhosin | tremon: OK, I'm in single user mode |
| 16:51.22 | treaki_ | wjtaylor, worldwide or just in the us? |
| 16:51.24 | wjtaylor | Corps --- lobby ---> govt --- legistlate friendly laws ---> corps |
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| 16:51.55 | wjtaylor | The US brand of capitalism is the most offensive, but wouldn't be surprised to see it pop up over the world because "it works" |
| 16:51.57 | forcer | Yes, please take this to #debian-offtopic |
| 16:51.58 | Suhosin | tremon: I can do cp -rp /usr /home/willow, will that do everything needed? |
| 16:52.20 | treaki_ | sorry forcer |
| 16:52.29 | tremon | Suhosin: no, you need at least cp -a |
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| 16:52.58 | treaki_ | #/join #debian-offtopi |
| 16:53.09 | wjtaylor | On a debian note, I recieved a message that I don't have firmware files. I have main, contrib, and non-free in my sources. Any reason why I would be missing these? |
| 16:53.14 | wjtaylor | This is during an upgrade |
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| 16:53.44 | tremon | Suhosin: I would use cp -ax, and make sure to run the copy as root |
| 16:53.57 | Suhosin | tremon: Running as root (I'm in single user) |
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| 16:54.12 | tremon | yes, naturally ;) |
| 16:54.30 | linduxed | hey guys, is there some locale i can set LC_COLLATE to so that when invoking "ls", dotfiles get separated from the non-dotfiles (like in LC_COLLATE=C) but is case insensitive (like for instance LC_COLLATE=en_US.utf8)? |
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| 16:56.29 | Suhosin | tremon: Expecting this to take a while ;) I'll go get a tea |
| 16:56.51 | afidegnum | hello, pls the nameserver by default in /etc/resolv.conf is set to 127.0.0.1 is it correct or i should set it to my server's IP address? |
| 16:57.15 | PerfDave | afidegnum: Uhm, are you running a DNS server on your system? |
| 16:57.16 | wjtaylor | treaki_: The only rights you have are the ones you assert and defend. That's all. That's all. |
| 16:57.34 | Suhosin | wjtaylor: Well sai |
| 16:57.36 | Suhosin | d |
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| 16:57.57 | wjtaylor | To be secure from a crypto perspective, one must learn crypto, otherwise you are at the mercy (slave) to others good and bad. |
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| 16:58.14 | afidegnum | PerfDave: hmm... a mind bogling question, I have installed a web management applicaiton which seems to installed and configured everything for me |
| 16:58.20 | wjtaylor | "Mathematics is wisdom" - RZA |
| 16:58.24 | Suhosin | wjtaylor: That sentence is true for most things, replacing the word crypto |
| 16:58.28 | PerfDave | afidegnum: Webmin or cpanel? You're probably doomed :) |
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| 16:58.44 | afidegnum | lol, I am installing DTC from GPLhost |
| 16:58.51 | Suhosin | Vires in Numeris |
| 16:59.15 | wjtaylor | Suhosin: absolutely. But here in the US (generally speaking), we can't even do percentages let alone understand crypto. |
| 16:59.57 | Suhosin | wjtaylor: Very few people can do most security-related tasks right. The strength of FOSS is that it makes it easier to create a layer of security. |
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| 17:00.02 | Suhosin | s/The/A |
| 17:00.08 | afidegnum | PerfDave: what do you suggest? because my subdirectory seems to not owrk |
| 17:00.30 | afidegnum | and I am told I have to config my name server |
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| 17:00.44 | afidegnum | and godaddy seems not to recognize it :nameserver not registerdd: |
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| 17:01.10 | Suhosin | tremon: Still going :D |
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| 17:01.35 | Suhosin | The joy of 7200rpm drives :( |
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| 17:02.59 | wjtaylor | The issue that spawed this conversation (not sure you were on the #debian channel) was that OpenBSD had allegedly added a back door to ssh and other crypto code for FBI. This led to an audit that led to the discovery of bugs in those sections... go figure. Google is the main funding source of TOR, and Snoden revealed that the contect of every phone call that originates and terminates in the US is in an NSA database. |
| 17:03.12 | smhar | thanks everybody and specially mumpitzel for the help |
| 17:03.13 | wjtaylor | Suhosin ^^ |
| 17:03.18 | PerfDave | afidegnum: I'm not sure what a subdirectory has to do with a nameserver... |
| 17:03.18 | smhar | bye |
| 17:03.35 | afidegnum | I am confused |
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| 17:03.44 | wjtaylor | sorry wrong channel |
| 17:04.21 | PerfDave | afidegnum: I am as well. What is this server, where did it come from? |
| 17:05.10 | afidegnum | well, it's a dedicated server I am trying to install DTC gplhost into |
| 17:05.20 | afidegnum | after installation, I am facing tribulations. |
| 17:05.33 | afidegnum | I have done it before and it works I dont know what is happening these days. |
| 17:05.38 | Suhosin | tremon: OK, /usr has been copied to /home/willow/usr |
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| 17:06.11 | PerfDave | afidegnum: So it's a server provided by a company called GPLhost? |
| 17:06.31 | wjtaylor | Why do i have firmware files that are missing? What does deb need with firmware? |
| 17:06.56 | PerfDave | wjtaylor: Debian doesn't need firmware; possibly devices you have need it. |
| 17:06.57 | afidegnum | no, GPLHost is a company/organisation which provide an open source web hosting management, similar to WCHMS or CPanel |
| 17:06.59 | tremon | Suhosin: double-check that the data is in /home/willow/user ;) -- then umount /usr and lvremove the willow-usr LV |
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| 17:07.08 | afidegnum | which I installed on my dedicated server, |
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| 17:07.27 | PerfDave | afidegnum: OK, that's not what their website looks like. |
| 17:07.38 | Suhosin | tremon: Says /usr is busy :/ |
| 17:07.46 | afidegnum | the dedicated server is from hetzner |
| 17:07.50 | PerfDave | afidegnum: Was your server running Debian before you installed this management software? How did you install it? |
| 17:08.00 | tremon | Suhosin: is your shell in /usr ? then cd / |
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| 17:08.05 | afidegnum | yes, |
| 17:08.27 | afidegnum | and hte management software was required to be installed on debian squeeze |
| 17:08.30 | afidegnum | or lenny, |
| 17:08.30 | Suhosin | tremon: No, shell is in /home/willow/usr |
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| 17:08.50 | afidegnum | but squeeze has more advanced and stable features |
| 17:09.05 | PerfDave | afidegnum: You realise those releases of Debian are outdated, right? |
| 17:09.42 | PerfDave | squeeze won't get security updates after May 2014 |
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| 17:10.04 | tremon | Suhosin: hmm, are you running in some screen multiplexer (like tmux, screen)? |
| 17:10.06 | PerfDave | afidegnum: So you installed Debian Squeeze on a Hetzner box, then you installed this GPLhost software, and it broke your box? |
| 17:10.12 | afidegnum | yea, but the releases for the server are on track |
| 17:10.15 | afidegnum | they updated it |
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| 17:10.32 | afidegnum | no, the box is not broken |
| 17:10.45 | tremon | Suhosin: there are tools like lsof, fuser to find out what's still holding a reference to a file or tree, but those may not be installed right now |
| 17:10.51 | Suhosin | tremon: No, lsof ays it's in use by rpc.idmapd and x86_64-linux-gnu/libevent-2.0.so.5.1.7 |
| 17:10.51 | afidegnum | everything is working right from teh terminal |
| 17:10.59 | afidegnum | just the online aspect seems to be broken |
| 17:11.09 | afidegnum | after installation, I supposed to run the admin panel |
| 17:11.17 | afidegnum | dtc.mydomain.con/dtcadmin |
| 17:11.22 | afidegnum | but it's not working |
| 17:11.28 | afidegnum | but mydomain.com seems to be working |
| 17:11.50 | tremon | Suhosin: check ps -ef for running processes, rpc.idmapd can be killed without issue (service nfs-common stop) |
| 17:11.57 | folivora | Hello, I had Alps/TouchPad and it is failing, I can't click on icons, pointer works but with clicks it wont work |
| 17:12.01 | folivora | I have tried different solutions, but still it is failing. With normal drivers it is regonized as PS/2 mouse |
| 17:12.11 | PerfDave | afidegnum: Is dtc.mycomain.com a valid domain name? |
| 17:12.48 | Suhosin | tremon: Stopping that service let me umount it |
| 17:13.08 | afidegnum | PerfDave: that's also not working |
| 17:13.23 | PerfDave | afidegnum: Was it working before you installed GPLhost? |
| 17:13.47 | PerfDave | afidegnum: Also, how did you install GPLhost on your squeeze system? |
| 17:13.58 | Suhosin | tremon: I did lvremove /dev/mapper/willow-usr |
| 17:13.59 | tremon | Suhosin: good. Can you try running lvresize --help with /usr unmounted, so we can be sure it doesn't need any libraries from /usr ? |
| 17:14.13 | afidegnum | I followed this documentation |
| 17:14.15 | afidegnum | http://dtcsupport.gplhost.com/PmWiki/DebianExpressSetup |
| 17:14.27 | tremon | Suhosin: ok, let's pray that my last comment won't be essential then ;) |
| 17:14.32 | Suhosin | Thankfully lvresize --help works without those libs :P |
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| 17:15.02 | Suhosin | Presumably even if it didnt I could have changed lib path to point to /home/willow/usr/lib |
| 17:15.10 | PerfDave | afidegnum: Sounds to me like you need GPLhost's support rather than #debian |
| 17:15.17 | dracarys | this might be off topic, but, Debian vs Mint vs Ubuntu |
| 17:15.27 | dracarys | I'm trying to pick a distro for my new server |
| 17:15.39 | Suhosin | dracarys: Let's say you walk into McDonalds |
| 17:15.51 | Suhosin | and ask them whether you should buy McDonalds, Taco Bell or KFC |
| 17:15.52 | tremon | Suhosin: yes, that might have worked. You need lvresize -r -l +100%FREE willow/root iirc, try with --test first and read the manpage ;) |
| 17:15.58 | Suhosin | Which do you think they'll say? ;) |
| 17:16.02 | afidegnum | PerfDave: when contacted, tehy said I have to look at my nameservers |
| 17:16.07 | afidegnum | which I am confused about |
| 17:16.07 | dracarys | Suhosin: yes, very funny |
| 17:16.15 | dracarys | I'm really looking for someone who's run all three |
| 17:16.38 | PerfDave | afidegnum: Who hosts DNS for your domain? |
| 17:16.38 | tremon | dracarys: then you might have more luck in ##linux |
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| 17:17.01 | afidegnum | PerfDave: I don't get your question |
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| 17:17.17 | PerfDave | afidegnum: When you registered your domain, who did you register it, and do they host the DNS for it? |
| 17:17.20 | afidegnum | hetzner gave me a server's IP |
| 17:17.25 | afidegnum | godaddy |
| 17:17.45 | afidegnum | but I pointed the server's Ip to my domain by creating A records to it |
| 17:17.57 | PerfDave | OK, so you need to update your godaddy records to create the dtc.mycomain.com subdomain |
| 17:17.58 | afidegnum | I think A alias or so |
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| 17:18.25 | PerfDave | afidegnum: I'm guessing at least. GPLhost actually understand their software, they're better people to ask. |
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| 17:20.07 | Suhosin | tremon: Trying with --test, saying 'Physical volume +100%FREE not found in Volume Group "willow"' |
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| 17:20.31 | Suhosin | And man is not found o.O |
| 17:20.33 | wjtaylor | PerfDave: Do you know where I get the firmware files? I have main contrib and non-free listed... |
| 17:21.09 | PerfDave | wjtaylor: What firmware files do you need? |
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| 17:21.27 | mads- | Can anyone tell me how to install pepperflash on debian? Searching google didn't really yield any good results. Reading https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer tells me that there should be a package named pepperflashplugin-nonfree, but doing an "apt-cache search pepperflash" yields no results |
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| 17:22.43 | tremon | Suhosin: did you forget the -l ? |
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| 17:22.52 | afidegnum | PerfDave: pls what was your last message, I was disconnected |
| 17:22.53 | wjtaylor | PerfDave: http://paste.debian.net/67516/ |
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| 17:24.04 | robokop | I have a vps system which my hoster snapshots each night, and this process takes about 3 minutes and my clock is frozen during this time. ntp takes quite some time to catch up and i'd like ntp to automatically do a big jump in one go that once instead of doing the slow skew process |
| 17:24.12 | robokop | how should/could i do that |
| 17:24.14 | PerfDave | afidegnum: I was just sayign that you've installed some huge chunk of non-Debian software onto your Debian system, you're better off asking the people who made it how to fix it. |
| 17:24.37 | PerfDave | wjtaylor: OK, I'd look for the packages which contain those filenames and make sure you've got them installed. |
| 17:24.46 | afidegnum | no, it's a debian based software |
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| 17:25.02 | afidegnum | you were asking about configuring the dns in godaddy |
| 17:25.12 | afidegnum | can you please suggest how do I do it ? |
| 17:25.14 | wjtaylor | PerfDave: OK. Thanks |
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| 17:25.48 | PerfDave | afidegnum: It's not part of Debian, it's not hosted on debian.org, it's a enormous chunk of system-destroying monstrosity and it's broken your system. Web panels are a terrible idea at the best of times. |
| 17:25.50 | Suhosin | tremon: Yeah, worked |
| 17:26.15 | PerfDave | afidegnum: I'm not going to tell you how to use GoDaddy either, because I've never done it. But if your web panel expects a subdomain to exist and it doesn't, it might be an idea to put it there? |
| 17:26.17 | Suhosin | tremon: But the device still says its full, do I have to remount it or something? |
| 17:26.23 | Suhosin | or extend the ext4 partition? |
| 17:26.33 | wjtaylor | how do i search for packages with certain files? |
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| 17:26.46 | PerfDave | wjtaylor: apt-file, or packages.debian.org - looks like that realtek firmware is non-free |
| 17:26.48 | tremon | Suhosin: then you forgot the -r probably. Yes, use resize2fs |
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| 17:27.25 | mtn | wjtaylor: http://packages.debian.org |
| 17:27.47 | Suhosin | tremon: Yeah, I forgot the r, any idea what to put into resize2fs? I cant open manual :/ |
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| 17:28.22 | tremon | Suhosin: resize2fs /dev/mapper/willow-root |
| 17:29.23 | Suhosin | Then cp -ax /home/willow/usr / ? |
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| 17:30.13 | jhutchins | robokop: Schedule a restart of ntpd. By default it shold do a "catch up" sync when it starts, but that can be tuned in the options. |
| 17:30.15 | tremon | yes, probably. I'm never sure where files will end up with recursive copying ;) |
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| 17:31.22 | Suhosin | I just worry about hardlinks |
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| 17:31.52 | tremon | too late to worry about them now, they were already lost with the first copy |
| 17:32.06 | Suhosin | cp -a is supposed to preserve links isnt it? |
| 17:32.24 | xand | hardlinks are just normal files |
| 17:32.37 | tremon | yes, but I'm not sure if that includes link count on inode level |
| 17:32.39 | xand | there's nothing to differentiate the "original" and the second one |
| 17:33.14 | xand | I would guess it'd create a new file... certainly it would if you copied to a different filesystem |
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| 17:34.22 | tremon | xand: the question is "if I copy a directory tree containing several hardlinked files with cp -a, does the destination tree have those same files hardlinked"? |
| 17:35.03 | tremon | (both hardlinked members are included in the tree, not outside of it) |
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| 17:35.33 | zykotick9 | tremon: xand's point about "different filesystem" is important... |
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| 17:36.09 | xand | tremon: well it's easy to TIAS :P |
| 17:36.42 | tremon | xand: true |
| 17:37.06 | xand | and the answer seems to be "yes" |
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| 17:38.10 | tremon | indeed it is. Consider me impressed ;) |
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| 17:39.56 | Suhosin | tremon: Hmm, have rebooted and |
| 17:39.59 | Suhosin | Seems to be working :P |
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| 17:40.38 | tremon | Suhosin: well, I would have expected your machine to complain about a missing device for /usr. Unless you've already removed it from fstab |
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| 17:40.58 | Suhosin | tremon: I removed it |
| 17:41.00 | Suhosin | from fstab |
| 17:41.13 | tremon | good. All set then :) |
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| 17:41.33 | Suhosin | tremon: I'm not as noob as I seem, just didnt really feel comfortable with the lvm/crypto setup and didnt want to demolish everything by just stampeding ahead ;) |
| 17:41.42 | tremon | now what was it you said about adding sdb... |
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| 17:41.53 | Suhosin | Yeah, I have an sdb drive |
| 17:42.13 | Suhosin | It's currently not in use (it had netbsd on it, but I never use it) |
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| 17:43.52 | tremon | the correct way to set it up is to create a new crypto device on it (use a partition table if you want, I tend not to do that -- just use full-disk crypto with one lvm volume) |
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| 17:44.44 | tremon | then create a new PV on that crypto device, and extend your existing volume group with that PV |
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| 17:45.03 | tremon | however, that means you will have to enter 2 passphrases at boot (one for each disk) |
| 17:45.25 | Suhosin | tremon: Is there any way to do that so I dont have to? Not that its a huge issue, just a minor inconvenience |
| 17:45.33 | Suhosin | Prior to that reboot I had about 70 days uptime. |
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| 17:46.12 | tremon | yes there is, zless /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/README.initramfs.gz is your starting point |
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| 17:46.24 | tremon | you want to read about the decrypt_derived keyscript |
| 17:47.05 | tremon | as a word of caution, that doesn't work if you use systemd |
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| 17:47.19 | Suhosin | I don't use systemd |
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| 17:55.00 | D-Boy | Okey, So I installed the nvidia drivers following the dkms method on the debian wiki, the black screen is back again (and the monitor is like there is no input from the desktop at all) The desktop is running, I can SSH into it, I have the following warnings : http://pastebin.com/ZcDpkeZM, what now ? |
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| 17:56.46 | Satche | Hello |
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| 17:58.08 | Satche | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:58.14 | trampel | D-Boy so no errors (EE) only warnings (WW)? and you've got the monitor connected with a DVI cable (rather than a VGA)? |
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| 17:58.16 | Satche | ahm, sorry |
| 17:58.45 | Satche | I'm looking for an easy way to have a live usb persistent of debian |
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| 17:59.01 | Satche | anybody have an easy solution ? |
| 17:59.26 | eezlf | what's easy solution? |
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| 18:00.15 | trampel | D-Boy: what does /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/<version-number>/build/make.log say near the end of it? |
| 18:00.30 | Satche | something like, download an iso and put it on the usb ? |
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| 18:00.39 | Satche | Seems too easy |
| 18:00.54 | eezlf | no |
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| 18:02.28 | D-Boy | trampel, sorry i was googling about those (WW) |
| 18:02.47 | D-Boy | trampel, yes, I'm connecting with the DVI Cable |
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| 18:02.59 | trampel | D-Boy: in my experience (WW)s aren't the cause of a "black screen" |
| 18:03.31 | zykotick9 | Satche: see if http://live.debian.net/ offers persistence... i have no idea if they do/don't. fyi, it's also possible to install onto a usb drive (slow though). |
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| 18:04.58 | D-Boy | trampel, i have no make.log on the path you specified |
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| 18:06.17 | D-Boy | trampel, also for those (WW) the x-ttcidfont-conf package does not exist for wheesy apparently |
| 18:06.25 | D-Boy | s/wheesy/wheezy |
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| 18:07.11 | trampel | D-Boy: what nvidia 'version-number' are you attempting to dkms? (i wandered away in disgust around 304.64) |
| 18:07.50 | D-Boy | trampel, 173.14.35 |
| 18:07.52 | trampel | D-Boy: i believe the lack of a particular font package will not result in a black screen |
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| 18:08.56 | D-Boy | trampel, Connecting with a VGA cable will change anything ? |
| 18:08.57 | phy1729 | to boot into single yser mode it just append single to the end of the kernel line in grub right? |
| 18:09.29 | trampel | D-Boy: whoa isn't version 173.14.35 fairly old/legacy? |
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| 18:10.25 | trampel | D-Boy: a VGA cable would be a step backwards... just wanted to make sure that your graphics card and monitor had some good resolution communication via DVI |
| 18:11.07 | D-Boy | trampel, it worked under windows 7 :), I'm trying to migrate from Win-GUI to Debian-GUI |
| 18:11.57 | D-Boy | trampel, and yes that's old, but the drivers from nvidia site, also gives black screen, and for the dkms version that's the 'right' one for my card if i understand |
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| 18:13.34 | trampel | D-Boy: you may want to at least try a more up-to-date driver (http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx) as it would coooperate better with recent dkms set-ups |
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| 18:14.41 | trampel | D-Boy: this is presuming that you're "Debian-GUI" system that you're trying to migrate towards is also recent (and hopefully from ~stable) |
| 18:14.53 | trampel | s/you're/your/ |
| 18:15.31 | D-Boy | trampel, I think so (Debian 7 with Gnome 3) |
| 18:16.00 | D-Boy | trampel, I'll try one more time from nvidia website, I'll get back to you ^^ |
| 18:16.06 | trampel | D-Boy: yep. that's recent |
| 18:16.14 | trampel | D-Boy: good luck! |
| 18:16.18 | D-Boy | thx :) |
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| 18:40.53 | wjtaylor | I just upgraded to Wheezy, and I'm not very happy. I logged into gnome classic and my meny items are all put in "Other" Is there an easy way to fix this? |
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| 18:41.04 | wjtaylor | Why did they change that? There's no reason to. |
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| 18:43.02 | Satche | Thank you zykotick9 |
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| 18:43.48 | D-Boy | tramper, well, ahem, apparently that just worked from the first try, but As this gpu has 2 monitors pluged in, when starting X switch the view to the other monitor (and of course it was shutdown...) |
| 18:44.05 | D-Boy | but, I'm gladly happy that it works :D |
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| 18:50.32 | musca | D-Boy: i like such problems with clean solutions :) |
| 18:50.48 | soon | I've just installed teamviewer 8 (downloaded package) with gdebi. The installation included 224 dependencies (I'm running KDE, guessing the teamviewer relies on GTK). Is there a way to un-install teamviewer AND all the dependencies it pulled in? |
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| 18:51.42 | rio_ | ? |
| 18:51.44 | forcer | soon: apt-get remove teamviewer ; apt-get autoremove |
| 18:52.10 | soon | thanks ! |
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| 18:53.12 | rio_ | root@one-System:/home/one# export MASTSIF="/root/CUTErInstallation/mastsif" |
| 18:53.18 | rio_ | root@one-System:/home/one# cd SIFDEC |
| 18:53.24 | rio_ | bash: cd: SIFDEC: No such file or directory |
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| 18:53.32 | rio_ | why i got this ? |
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| 18:53.58 | forcer | rio_: I am confused why you'd expect it to work in the first place |
| 18:54.47 | rio_ | forcer: What shoul i do to be correct ? |
| 18:54.57 | rio_ | forcer: sorry |
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| 18:55.22 | rio_ | root@one-System:/home/one# export SIFDEC="/root/CUTErInstallation/sifdec |
| 18:55.27 | D-Boy | musca, me too :D, just waste a day for that :D |
| 18:55.30 | forcer | rio_: Ah |
| 18:55.34 | forcer | rio_: cd $SIFDEC ? |
| 18:55.40 | rio_ | yes |
| 18:55.46 | forcer | Note the $ |
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| 18:56.48 | rio_ | forcer: root@one-System:/home/one# export $SIFDEC="/root/CUTErInstallation/sifdec |
| 18:56.49 | rio_ | ? |
| 18:57.00 | forcer | rio_: No, cd $SIFDEC |
| 18:57.14 | forcer | rio_: SIFDEC is the variable name. $SIFDEC is the value of the variable. |
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| 18:57.52 | rio_ | forcer: ok :) |
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| 18:59.00 | rio_ | forcer: I have a directory ,that contain some bash files .after adding directory too bash ,i cant use the bash script |
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| 19:01.30 | rio_ | forcer: How i can add a directory to path that the content of it be usable in bash ? |
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| 20:14.34 | afidegnum | hi all, good morning all |
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| 20:14.43 | FungiFox | morning |
| 20:15.08 | afidegnum | please how do i open DNS 53 port in squeeze? |
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| 20:16.25 | buckfast | Hi |
| 20:16.35 | buckfast | Any idea when Debian 7.3 will be out? |
| 20:16.52 | phy1729 | afidegnum: with iptables? |
| 20:17.01 | afidegnum | yes, I think so |
| 20:17.02 | Woet | buckfast: the future |
| 20:17.09 | afidegnum | or any other method? |
| 20:17.15 | dansan | Hello guys! :) So I was running an upgrade on gf's machine while she was surfing the web & such and the kernel paniced or some such. Anyway, I got a lot of errors from dpkg --configure -a on the libreoffice packages, since it was still in the middle of that when it crashed. Is there a way I can have dpkg list all libreoffice* packages and then reinstall them? |
| 20:17.19 | Woet | afidegnum: https://wiki.debian.org/iptables |
| 20:17.25 | phy1729 | afidegnum: what firewall are you running? |
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| 20:17.28 | Woet | and by default all ports are open on debian |
| 20:17.37 | phy1729 | https://www.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial/iptables-tutorial.html is a good tutorial |
| 20:18.03 | dansan | or rather, anybody care to share that with me? (I use gentoo, so it would be qlist -IC aps-office/libre* for me) |
| 20:18.54 | acemi | afidegnum: have you a DNS server in your box? |
| 20:19.23 | robokop | dansan: dpkg-query is your friend |
| 20:19.25 | dansan | oh! dpkg --get-selections | grep -i <word> hehe, :) |
| 20:19.26 | dansan | ahhh! |
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| 20:19.35 | afidegnum | euh... I think yes |
| 20:19.41 | afidegnum | it's a dedcated server |
| 20:19.43 | dansan | oooh, fun! ty robokop |
| 20:20.15 | buckfast | Woet: I read somewhere that probably in December, is that true? |
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| 20:20.32 | Woet | buckfast: if it's not announced it's not determined |
| 20:20.39 | cusco | afidegnum: how do you know its not open? |
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| 20:20.54 | acemi | afidegnum: netstat -taunp | egrep 53 what is the output for this command? |
| 20:22.59 | afidegnum | acemi: it brings an empty result |
| 20:23.01 | afidegnum | no output |
| 20:23.12 | dansan | darn, the panic didn't make it to the syslogs :( |
| 20:23.30 | Woet | afidegnum: so nothing is listening on the port |
| 20:23.36 | Woet | afidegnum: you did install a DNS server right? |
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| 20:24.09 | afidegnum | I did install squeze via a rescue system, how do i know if DNS server is installed? |
| 20:24.20 | Woet | .. you're the sysadmin, you're supposed to know |
| 20:24.23 | acemi | afidegnum: why do you want to open port 53? |
| 20:24.26 | Woet | if you want a DNS server you need to install it |
| 20:24.36 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 20:25.34 | cusco | afidegnum: are you sure you want a DNS server? |
| 20:25.42 | afidegnum | yes, |
| 20:26.02 | afidegnum | I am trying to install an open source web management system which will surely need a dns server |
| 20:26.10 | cusco | its hard to believe you, because so far you have tricked us all |
| 20:26.14 | afidegnum | I had a problem with it and i am reinstalling it |
| 20:26.15 | cusco | tricking yourself first |
| 20:26.16 | cusco | :) |
| 20:26.18 | afidegnum | who me? |
| 20:26.23 | afidegnum | I never tricked anyone |
| 20:26.33 | afidegnum | what did i tricked yu for? |
| 20:26.42 | cusco | I was.. sortof joking... what is that web management system called? |
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| 20:26.56 | afidegnum | DTC from gplhost |
| 20:26.59 | cusco | afidegnum: you did, by stating you had closed ports |
| 20:27.16 | afidegnum | no I didn't lol |
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| 20:27.34 | afidegnum | I was told t listen to the port |
| 20:27.42 | afidegnum | I mean opeing the port |
| 20:27.44 | cusco | afidegnum: the website has a link 'software compatibility list' |
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| 20:27.48 | cusco | bind is there |
| 20:27.59 | cusco | is the only dns server there |
| 20:28.17 | afidegnum | ah ok |
| 20:28.28 | afidegnum | so bind9 is a dns server ok |
| 20:28.35 | cusco | I would rather use mydns for a web management system |
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| 20:28.48 | dansan | hurray! I fixed it! :) :) :) :) |
| 20:28.55 | afidegnum | mydns have lot of limitations |
| 20:29.01 | cusco | also, doesn't that have a howto on getting it to work on debian? |
| 20:29.01 | afidegnum | this is to me quite advanced |
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| 20:29.12 | cusco | afidegnum: then why do you need 'web management' ? |
| 20:29.17 | cusco | that only seems dangerous |
| 20:29.36 | cusco | if you can get to the level of detailing that mydns is limited |
| 20:29.39 | afidegnum | yes, I followed a how-to but the result weren't pleasant so I am trying again |
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| 20:30.50 | afidegnum | I am also told to open port SMTP - 25 (TLS - 465) |
| 20:31.02 | afidegnum | what does TLS 465 stands for? |
| 20:31.10 | cusco | mta |
| 20:31.19 | cusco | also on the list |
| 20:31.41 | afidegnum | DNS - 53, SMTP - 25 (TLS - 465), IMAP - 143 (TLS - 993), POP3 - 110 (TLS - 995), FTP -21 |
| 20:31.45 | cusco | and I'm not aware of limitations on mydns, besides the obvious where you don't edit the zonfile yourself |
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| 20:31.59 | cusco | you need to use the sql to edit anything |
| 20:32.03 | dansan | OK, sorry, one more question then. I want to update this kernel before trying to finish her upgrade. It's got the 3.2.something, which if I recall, wasn't the worlds greatest. Which is the package for upgrading just that? |
| 20:32.11 | afidegnum | cusco |
| 20:32.21 | dansan | Also, I presume it will set off the grub triggers to update /boot/grub/grub.conf? |
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| 20:32.23 | afidegnum | are you the musician ? :) |
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| 20:34.06 | afidegnum | any answer ? |
| 20:34.51 | dansan | hmm, ok, so 3.2 is one of the long term kernels, but why 3.2.0-4-amd64? 3.2.52 is out :( |
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| 20:35.07 | cusco | afidegnum: what was the question? |
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| 20:35.30 | cusco | dansan: debian isn't known for being bleeding edge, rather for its stability |
| 20:35.44 | cusco | why would 3.2.52 be better than 3.2.0 ? |
| 20:35.47 | dansan | cusco: ok, true. And maybe it was hardware and not the kernel that died |
| 20:36.01 | dansan | cusco: well, theoretically, it's had more patches backported |
| 20:36.02 | afidegnum | cusco: the question was about opening ports |
| 20:36.03 | Klaus_Dieter | cusco: because it has a higher version number. it must be better! |
| 20:36.11 | afidegnum | DNS SMTP and so on |
| 20:36.12 | dansan | lol! |
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| 20:36.24 | cusco | Klaus_Dieter: the less code the better, not the other way around |
| 20:36.32 | cusco | :p |
| 20:36.33 | Klaus_Dieter | cusco: I was joking |
| 20:36.36 | dansan | cusco: sometimes, sometimes not |
| 20:36.39 | cusco | I understood |
| 20:36.43 | Klaus_Dieter | :) |
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| 20:36.45 | cusco | dansan: yea... |
| 20:36.52 | cusco | afidegnum: what is the real question? |
| 20:37.10 | afidegnum | I want to open ports via IPtables |
| 20:37.18 | dansan | cusco: True enough though, 2.6.32.61 is still broken due to backports where dependent patches didn't make it in. I still haven't submitted that bug yet... :( |
| 20:37.20 | cusco | afidegnum: how do you know they are not open? |
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| 20:37.30 | afidegnum | I don't know |
| 20:37.31 | dansan | ok, so 3.2.0 it is, thanks |
| 20:37.36 | afidegnum | i am told to oepen |
| 20:37.41 | cusco | afidegnum: so why do you want to open them? |
| 20:37.44 | afidegnum | meaning they might be blocked |
| 20:37.46 | cusco | afidegnum: you are being told wrong |
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| 20:37.52 | afidegnum | for the instalatio |
| 20:37.58 | cusco | or rather, not having your software listening on them? |
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| 20:38.08 | afidegnum | yes |
| 20:38.22 | cusco | so I don't see how iptables relates to your issue |
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| 20:38.28 | cusco | but just to be sure: iptables -L |
| 20:38.48 | cusco | any rule at all? |
| 20:38.58 | cusco | no rules? no closed ports ! |
| 20:39.09 | afidegnum | Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT) |
| 20:39.10 | afidegnum | target prot opt source destination |
| 20:39.23 | afidegnum | that's all |
| 20:39.26 | cusco | no rules |
| 20:39.27 | cusco | :) |
| 20:39.30 | cusco | no closed ports |
| 20:39.37 | cusco | (on that machine) |
| 20:39.45 | acemi | afidegnum: you don't want to open some ports. you want to run some services |
| 20:39.53 | afidegnum | yes |
| 20:39.54 | cusco | acemi: does he? |
| 20:40.13 | acemi | i guest so |
| 20:40.19 | cusco | I'm not sure afidegnum knows what he wants |
| 20:41.09 | afidegnum | ok, so I believe ports are opened by default , right? |
| 20:41.22 | cusco | sure |
| 20:41.26 | Klaus_Dieter | afidegnum: it sounds as if it would help if you would get some basic understanding of what you are trying to do before attempting to just follow a howto. forgive me my bluntness but my impression is that you are starting with a basic set of knowledge however you are attempting a very advanced task. I would suggest you to write down what you want, which components you need to achieve that and get an overview of which technologies need to be |
| 20:42.01 | afidegnum | hmmm ok |
| 20:44.20 | arthurfiggis | hmm...i use a lot of the packages in backports already, they're a great addition to the distro where some of the packages are a bit too old :) would something like...aka... "apt-get -t wheezy-backports dist-upgrade" be sufficient to upgrade anything that's standard wheezy to the backports version? |
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| 20:44.48 | arthurfiggis | (from the test-run in the console it looks as if it would work, but i don't want to blow anything up when it's all working so nicely ;) ) |
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| 20:51.20 | NetEcho | how do you tell what nameservers are being used for looking stuff up? |
| 20:51.44 | Klaus_Dieter | NetEcho: cat /etc/resolv.conf also nslookup shows the nameserver. |
| 20:52.11 | NetEcho | perfect |
| 20:52.26 | NetEcho | so if I change it in /etc/resolv.conf do I need to restart anything? |
| 20:52.45 | cusco | no |
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| 20:53.10 | Klaus_Dieter | NetEcho: but that is only true for the resolving work that is done by nss |
| 20:54.06 | NetEcho | my router is set up with some pretty crappy DNS servers to bypass the american netflix block heh so I prefer to use google DNS for everything else |
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| 20:56.02 | rryoumaa | netflix block? |
| 20:56.22 | NetEcho | so we get US netflix |
| 20:56.24 | rryoumaa | like your isp thinks it has the right to choose what sites you can go to? |
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| 20:56.33 | NetEcho | no netflix blocks non-americans |
| 20:56.38 | rryoumaa | oh |
| 20:56.40 | NetEcho | Canadian netflix is crap |
| 20:56.48 | arthurfiggis | rryoumaa: netflix will only display a certain amount of content depending on what region you're actually in...but if you select the proper dns servers, it tricks things into thinking you're from the us :) |
| 20:56.51 | jhutchins | arthurfiggis: No, the point of backports is to make individual packages available. |
| 20:57.08 | jhutchins | arthurfiggis: Debian isn't an "upgrade for the sake of upgrading" distro. |
| 20:57.19 | NetEcho | arthurfiggis yup usually I set the DNS on the specific device but my parent's blu-ray player doesn't have that option |
| 20:57.20 | rryoumaa | why does dns matter? it chooses a different ip address for you? |
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| 20:57.47 | NetEcho | rryoumaa no when netflix redirects you to the canadian portal the dns server uses the american portal's ip address |
| 20:57.54 | rryoumaa | if there is a packaage i want in wheezy, is there a place to check the status of backporting attempts for it? |
| 20:57.54 | NetEcho | oh I think thats what you said. heh |
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| 20:58.12 | arthurfiggis | jhutchins: ahh, i see...well that certainly makes sense! and as for upgrading...i only like to do that for security or bug fixes :) before ubuntu i used fedora, and i actually liked it a lot...but every three months or so a package would get pushed out that it shouldn't and game over :( |
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| 20:58.41 | arthurfiggis | rryoumaa: i've been using this: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/allpackages |
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| 20:59.24 | arthurfiggis | the only backport i'm using currently is the nvidia driver anyway, it has patches from the 31x drivers that make my card work spotlessly :) the 3.2 kernel works fine for me |
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| 20:59.49 | rryoumaa | arthurfiggis: i'm referring to packages like emacs24 that aren't there yet |
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| 20:59.57 | rryoumaa | (also, oddly, i notice that 0ad is there, but in practice trying to install it conflicts with existing wheezy packages and makes it impossible to install) |
| 21:00.12 | jhutchins | arthurfiggis: Security and bugfix updates get patched in fairly well in the main release. |
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| 21:00.36 | jhutchins | arthurfiggis: backports are usually for new features, so you only need to grab the ones that make a difference for youl |
| 21:00.39 | arthurfiggis | rryoumaa: oh, i see...yeah that i'm not sure about...there is apparently a way to build and install unstable packages from sid if you need a really new version, but that's beyond me :) only in my second week of using debian |
| 21:00.41 | jhutchins | -l |
| 21:01.00 | zoran | hi all i want to boot from usb rescatux |
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| 21:01.26 | rryoumaa | arthurfiggis: btw to get the same info, i update from backports and do aptitude search '~N' |
| 21:01.34 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: It's very bad to mix packages from different releases, the correct way to do it is to rebuild it in the target environment. |
| 21:02.05 | arthurfiggis | jhutchins: that's all i'm looking for these days :) i don't need to be running the latest version of gnome or kde any more, that was fun for a while but i'd just like things to work and be relatively secure now :P |
| 21:02.30 | arthurfiggis | rryoumaa: oh that's helpful, thanks! i have a big text file of hints people mention here, i'll have to put that one down :) |
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| 21:05.25 | zoran | how can i boot rescatux from usb? i have add my bios to boot from usb device the iso is on it but getting a prompt boot: and no configuration on syslinux found |
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| 21:06.38 | jhutchins | zoran: Sorry, we can tell you how to make a bootable Debian drive, but rescatux isn't debian. |
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| 21:07.38 | zoran | well any jhutchins any grub like or have grub on it is ok for me |
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| 21:08.41 | zoran | i just ask because i found a link debianwiki jhutchins understood what you mean |
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| 21:11.17 | jhutchins | !usb install |
| 21:11.17 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
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| 21:13.20 | abrotman | zoran: please use #rescatux, they have their own channel |
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| 21:14.40 | zoran | abrotman, sure i already did that but as i said any bootable usb with grub like liveusb could help me |
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| 21:18.58 | Neldogz | New to Debian and just installed Wheezy. I thought Debian is supposed to be more stable than other distros but in the first hour i have noticed that I cant use the gnome-sound-recorder.. and occasionally my screen goes blue when the automatic screen lock occurs due to inactivity |
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| 21:19.57 | Neldogz | Anyone else have this problem? |
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| 21:28.02 | abrotman | Neldogz: we have a fairly comprehensive bug tracker, bugs.debian.org |
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| 21:32.25 | Neldogz | abrotman: thanks |
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| 21:52.21 | blackjack | i tried installing eggdrop via apt-get |
| 21:52.32 | blackjack | but i cant see where the folder went. Can anyone help? |
| 21:52.48 | blackjack | and i wonder is it version 1.8? |
| 21:52.55 | Klaus_Dieter | blackjack: if all else fails find / -name "egg*" |
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| 21:53.42 | blackjack | thanks for that nifty commoand Klaus_Dieter:) |
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| 21:54.02 | tremon | blackjack: try dpkg -l eggdrop and dpkg -L eggdrop |
| 21:54.24 | blackjack | tremon whats dpkg doing? |
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| 21:55.10 | tremon | blackjack: have you tried man dpkg? |
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| 21:55.34 | blackjack | yep doing that right now:) |
| 21:55.41 | blackjack | is dpkg like apt-get |
| 21:55.50 | blackjack | will it download it for me as well? |
| 21:56.02 | blackjack | because apt-get also installs |
| 21:56.16 | tremon | actually, apt-get only downloads and then hands the rest over to dpkg |
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| 21:56.44 | tremon | (yeah, it also does dependency handling and many other useful things) |
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| 21:57.56 | blackjack | thanks |
| 21:58.12 | blackjack | i found out that its not the version i want. how do i uninstall using dpkg? |
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| 21:59.10 | tremon | that's in the manual as well, but just work with apt-get. You usually don't need dpkg itself for installation and removal, just let apt handle that |
| 21:59.23 | Klaus_Dieter | blackjack: yeah that is actually somethign that bites me as well quite often. is there a way of telling apt-get to display the versions before installing and downloading? |
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| 22:00.14 | Moonlightning | How do I install a .deb package and its dependencies? |
| 22:00.18 | tremon | Klaus_Dieter: more or less. there's aptitude -V and apt-cache policy $pkg |
| 22:00.27 | james41382 | I installed sensors-applet thinking that it is a gnome shell extension, but I'm not sure how to enable it. |
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| 22:00.42 | Klaus_Dieter | what is aptitude vs apt-get |
| 22:00.49 | tremon | ah, there is apt-get -V as well |
| 22:01.15 | Moonlightning | I'm trying to get a modern copy of weechat on a Squeeze machine, but the repos they have aren't signed or anything…so I'm building from source. I made a metapackage that just depends on the build dependencies, but when I try to install it with `sudo dpkg -i`, it complains that packages it depends on aren't installed. |
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| 22:02.25 | tremon | Klaus_Dieter: http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/06/20/apt-get-aptitude-%E2%80%A6-pick-the-right-debian-package-manager-for-you/ |
| 22:02.39 | acu | I want to dd a disk to other they are same size - and I do not know which is which |
| 22:02.42 | tremon | !tell Klaus_Dieter about why aptitude |
| 22:02.47 | tremon | !tell Klaus_Dieter about why not aptitude |
| 22:02.59 | acu | !uuid |
| 22:03.00 | dpkg | A Universally Unique IDentifier (UUID) is used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with 'blkid'. In /etc/fstab, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. UUIDs help to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (<libata> transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire. |
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| 22:08.09 | Klaus_Dieter | acu: thank you. I find it reallyconfusing that there are many different package managers that have overlapping but not quite identical features. |
| 22:08.27 | Klaus_Dieter | short explqanations like these help. |
| 22:08.44 | tremon | Moonlightning: that's usually not a problem, as long as the dependencies are resolvable. Just install the package with dpkg -i, then run apt-get -f install and see if it can resolve everything |
| 22:09.33 | Moonlightning | …hmm, wait…I might have done this wrong. |
| 22:10.00 | tremon | also, you don't need a metapackage for build dependencies, you have apt-get build-dep for that |
| 22:10.25 | Moonlightning | Yeah, but the latest version Debian has is a 0.3 one. |
| 22:10.37 | Moonlightning | How do you make the package depend on a specific version of a package? |
| 22:10.56 | Moonlightning | I did things like `libgnutls-dev (>= 2.2.0)` |
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| 22:13.43 | tremon | that should work. But for the binary package, you don't want to depend on the -dev package. Not sure if the scripts change that automatically for you |
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| 22:17.27 | Moonlightning | tremon: it /doesn't/ work, though. :( |
| 22:17.33 | Moonlightning | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of weechat-deps: |
| 22:17.33 | dpkg | moonlightning: that's not the complete error. Please pastebin the command you gave and the entire output. Ask me about <pastebin> <bat> <localised errors>. |
| 22:17.35 | Moonlightning | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.37 | Moonlightning | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.43 | Moonlightning | …ooookayy. |
| 22:18.10 | Moonlightning | https://pastee.org/sgamf |
| 22:19.08 | tremon | Moonlightning: so, what happens if you run apt-get -f install? |
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| 22:20.19 | dvs | ,v weechat-deps |
| 22:20.21 | judd | No package named 'weechat-deps' was found in i386. |
| 22:20.31 | Moonlightning | …wait, you can apt-get .deb files? |
| 22:21.44 | tremon | just as sure as you can sox .au files |
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| 22:22.05 | Moonlightning | …nope. |
| 22:22.07 | Moonlightning | > E: Unable to locate package weechat-deps_0.4.2_all.deb |
| 22:22.30 | tomatosalad | is there a better password prompt for xscreensaver? |
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| 22:24.15 | tremon | Moonlightning: in case it wasn't clear, "apt-get -f install" doesn't take any more arguments |
| 22:24.51 | Moonlightning | Oh. |
| 22:24.54 | Moonlightning | …oh. |
| 22:25.27 | Moonlightning | It's installing all the dependencies, looks like. ^^ |
| 22:25.31 | Moonlightning | Thank you. |
| 22:26.01 | tremon | :) |
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| 22:26.12 | Moonlightning | It'll mark them as automatically installed, so if|when I remove the metapackage with --autoremove, it'll remove them, right? |
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| 22:26.34 | tremon | it should, yes |
| 22:27.46 | wjtaylor | is there a way to use backports for only 1 package? It's not in main and I want to keep everything else standard. |
| 22:27.48 | Moonlightning | Thanks. ^^ |
| 22:28.07 | abrotman | wjtaylor: they are explicitly installed |
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| 22:28.20 | wjtaylor | abrotman: ? |
| 22:28.33 | tremon | wjtaylor: that's the default for backports. packages are only installed from backports if you explicitly ask for it |
| 22:29.24 | wjtaylor | ah... do I have to add the source to my apt sources list? |
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| 22:30.42 | tremon | see http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 22:30.52 | abrotman | wjtaylor: yes |
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| 22:31.40 | eb0t1 | k |
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| 22:34.59 | Quest | can I install debian on my android phone? |
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| 22:39.05 | dvs | Moonlightning: Why are you trying to install that package manually? |
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| 22:39.56 | Moonlightning | dvs: because the version in the Debian repos is ancient. |
| 22:40.04 | dvs | ,v weechat |
| 22:40.06 | judd | Package: weechat on i386 -- squeeze: 0.3.2-1+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 0.3.2-1+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 0.3.8-1+deb7u1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.3.8-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 0.4.1-2~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 0.4.2-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.4.2-3; sid: 0.4.2-3 |
| 22:40.06 | abrotman | Quest: you can |
| 22:40.23 | Moonlightning | > Version: 0.3.2-1+squeeze1 |
| 22:40.29 | Moonlightning | No thanks. |
| 22:40.31 | dvs | Moonlightning: hmmm... the one in wheezy-backports is the same version you're trying to install |
| 22:40.32 | abrotman | Moonlightning: why are you still running squeeze? |
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| 22:41.07 | Moonlightning | abrotman: because upgrading is kind of a hassle? |
| 22:41.28 | Moonlightning | dvs: can I just install that? |
| 22:41.37 | dvs | Moonlightning: Well, you're going to run out of support in three months. |
| 22:42.00 | dvs | Moonlightning: You can't install it unless you're running wheezy. |
| 22:42.07 | abrotman | Moonlightning: so you're whining about old packages, but refuse to upgrade? Brilliant |
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| 22:45.01 | wjtaylor | I added oldstable (that's what it should have been) and tried to install the package but hit a dependency issue. How do I fix this? |
| 22:45.27 | Quest | abrotman, how |
| 22:45.29 | dvs | wjtaylor: mixing releases is a very bad idea |
| 22:45.33 | james41382 | I want to compile and load a module into the kernel. I have not done this before. I found the source file located within the kernel headers src dir.. I think the next step is to complile it into file.o and then load it using insmod.. is this correct? |
| 22:46.10 | wjtaylor | dvs. I just need 1 package from squeeze to unload photos off my old phone and then I will remove the source... I need mtpfs |
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| 22:47.33 | Quest | abrotman, but that will be just an OS. I could touch the screen and use gentoo/debain but no phone features ofcourse. will gentoo/debain pick and recognize my mic, speakers, camera then? |
| 22:49.56 | Klaus_Dieter | james41382: no. run make menuconfig and select the module you want and set it to "m" as in "compile as module" |
| 22:49.59 | Klaus_Dieter | then run make modules |
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| 22:50.03 | Klaus_Dieter | and make modules_install |
| 22:50.07 | Klaus_Dieter | then you can modprobe it |
| 22:50.19 | abrotman | Quest: this isn't #gentoo .. ask them |
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| 22:51.25 | Quest | abrotman, ignore gentoo. talk about debain |
| 22:52.09 | james41382 | Klaus_Dieter: I'm a bit green here, but after a little investigating I see that the module is already in /lib/modules/3.10-0.bpo.3-amd64/kernel/drivers/char |
| 22:52.22 | Klaus_Dieter | then try to modprobe it |
| 22:52.28 | Klaus_Dieter | modprobe module-name |
| 22:52.42 | Klaus_Dieter | or insmod /lib/modules/bla/mpodule-name.ko |
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| 22:53.31 | Klaus_Dieter | Quest: your question is unspecific and therefore impossible to answer. |
| 22:53.46 | james41382 | It says ERROR: no such device. |
| 22:53.58 | Klaus_Dieter | what is "it" ? |
| 22:54.01 | abrotman | Quest: plenty of items on google |
| 22:54.03 | james41382 | Hmm.. anyways... No big deal.. just playing around. |
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| 22:54.12 | abrotman | use modprobe, not insmod |
| 22:54.24 | abrotman | this isn't 1999 |
| 22:54.31 | Quest | abrotman, y/n |
| 22:54.40 | james41382 | abrotman: I used modprobe and that was the result. |
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| 22:55.11 | Klaus_Dieter | james41382: what is the output of dmesg|tail and lsmod? which module are you trying to load? |
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| 22:55.32 | abrotman | Quest: y/w ? |
| 22:55.49 | Quest | is there no/yes as an answer |
| 22:56.10 | abrotman | no, this is not #gentoo ? |
| 22:56.12 | james41382 | Klaus_Dieter: Some module for this laptop to see cpu temp fan speeds and such. |
| 22:56.19 | james41382 | i8k.ko |
| 22:56.29 | Klaus_Dieter | does lsmod show it? |
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| 22:56.32 | james41382 | no |
| 22:56.38 | abrotman | Quest: google "debian android phone" plenty of results |
| 22:56.46 | Klaus_Dieter | so what about the output of dmesg? |
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| 22:56.57 | james41382 | hold on a sec.. i'll look. |
| 22:56.58 | Quest | abrotman, ok |
| 22:56.58 | Quest | is this holographic hardware made and available to use ? http://cdn.iphonehacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/iwatch_holographic_display_concept.jpg what is that called. what technology? what name of hardware? |
| 22:57.41 | james41382 | Oh it appears as though it is trying to load at startup, but there is an error: [ 6376.116602] i8k: unable to get SMM Dell signature |
| 22:57.41 | abrotman | Quest: do you need help with Debian? this is getting old |
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| 22:58.35 | Quest | abrotman, i am runing debain and want something like that to replace my LCD. I have a good budget. so dont wory |
| 22:58.52 | Klaus_Dieter | ahaaa :) james41382 now you have found the symptom |
| 22:59.05 | abrotman | Quest: so you want to replace your laptop with an iphone wrist wrap display? |
| 22:59.11 | abrotman | that creates holograms of course |
| 22:59.16 | Quest | no. just the display |
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| 22:59.28 | abrotman | Quest: how about starting with "debian android phone" and get it installed first .. |
| 22:59.38 | abrotman | then ask Samsumg when they'll have your holograms |
| 22:59.38 | james41382 | Klaus_Dieter: I googled the error and it appears that other have experienced similar issues.. |
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| 23:00.03 | Quest | abrotman, nice support. |
| 23:00.05 | Quest | waves |
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| 23:00.18 | abrotman | Nice questions. |
| 23:00.27 | james41382 | Looks like some people are saying it will load with the force=1 option |
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| 23:00.54 | Klaus_Dieter | james41382: the question is what you are breaking using force. |
| 23:01.34 | james41382 | I don't know.. but I modprobe i8k force=1 && lsmod | grep i8k and now it's loaded.. |
| 23:01.53 | james41382 | You think I broke something this way? |
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| 23:05.57 | DaleK5WHR | why doesn't wheezy play .avi files in vlc |
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| 23:07.22 | abrotman | AVI is a container |
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| 23:07.41 | zoran | DaleK5WHR, it play everything |
| 23:08.00 | DaleK5WHR | vlc installs usually play the video no problem but not in wheezy, just installed wheezy today and no problem in other distros |
| 23:08.18 | blackjack | guys i got problem |
| 23:08.30 | blackjack | i accidentally changed my ssh port to 1234 |
| 23:08.36 | blackjack | and now i cant connect. lol |
| 23:08.40 | zoran | lol |
| 23:08.43 | DaleK5WHR | zoran, I use vlc all the time but today it won't work in wheezy |
| 23:08.46 | blackjack | is there other way to undo that |
| 23:08.55 | blackjack | can't connect |
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| 23:09.12 | abrotman | and it's a remote server? |
| 23:09.17 | blackjack | yes abrotman |
| 23:09.19 | zoran | blackjack, if you are root ofc :P |
| 23:09.20 | blackjack | a vps |
| 23:09.21 | blackjack | lol |
| 23:09.25 | abrotman | so you call the data center, ask them to undo it |
| 23:09.28 | blackjack | yes we got root pass |
| 23:09.42 | blackjack | but i hate to rebuild it again just because of that :/ |
| 23:09.43 | blackjack | lol |
| 23:09.53 | abrotman | okay, then don't get in |
| 23:10.02 | blackjack | ok thanks for the suggestion |
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| 23:11.49 | abrotman | blackjack: why did'nt you test this before logging out ? |
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| 23:13.09 | themill | blackjack: do you have some sort of virtual console access through the hoster's web interface? |
| 23:13.35 | blackjack | i think they have. thats what im trying to access |
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| 23:13.49 | blackjack | in solusVM |
| 23:14.14 | abrotman | so you do have remote access .. |
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| 23:15.23 | fishcooker | i've got this file download this file http://paste.debian.net/67575/ when i try to http://localhost/phpmyadmin |
| 23:15.28 | phy1729 | blackjack: do they block that port? |
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| 23:19.57 | james41382 | I installed a couple applets for Gnome, but I don't see them after logging out and in to the Gnome shell. |
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| 23:21.13 | bla | SElinux Debian tends to fail on updates because packages call /etc/init.d directly without run_init. Anything can be done or do I need to disable enforcing for each update? |
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| 23:22.12 | eb0t | try menu-update or is it update menu |
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| 23:23.05 | james41382 | Menu update? |
| 23:23.57 | bla | update-menus probably |
| 23:24.08 | eb0t | i thnk its update-menus |
| 23:24.45 | jhutchins | !enter | blackjack |
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| 23:25.06 | jhutchins | So many bots, so many options... |
| 23:25.26 | james41382 | well one was sensors-applet, which I thought would be located on the panel, but i don't see anything. |
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| 23:25.32 | james41382 | strange.. |
| 23:26.34 | DaleK5WHR | vlc now plays files directly from hard drive but not over a network share in wheezy, any ideas |
| 23:27.00 | Klaus_Dieter | james41382: could be that you broke something but if you cannot spot a problem then there is no problem. :) |
| 23:27.41 | jhutchins | DaleK5WHR: Do you have the NFS share mounted? |
| 23:28.05 | james41382 | Klaus_Dieter: Well this was before I loaded that module.. but even afterwards it still doesn't work. |
| 23:28.06 | Klaus_Dieter | I was rather referring to the ibm manuall "all parts should go together without forcing." |
| 23:28.18 | james41382 | Let me reboot... I'll be back. |
| 23:28.29 | DaleK5WHR | jhutchins, no, I'm connected to a windows share within pcmanfm |
| 23:28.58 | Quest | what max processor and ram can I get for such devices? iam getting serious now |
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| 23:29.15 | DaleK5WHR | jhutchins, I just browsed to the windows share... maybe mounting it would do? |
| 23:29.45 | jhutchins | DaleK5WHR: I don't think VLC has CIFS/SMB support. |
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| 23:30.42 | DaleK5WHR | jhutchins, ok. I would think that it would be transparent |
| 23:30.43 | sedulous | where can i browse the wheezy-backports? |
| 23:30.44 | jhutchins | DaleK5WHR: That usually works better. |
| 23:30.54 | abrotman | sedulous: packages.debian.org, like all the others |
| 23:31.01 | jhutchins | DaleK5WHR: OpenOffice has similar problems. |
| 23:31.03 | DaleK5WHR | jhutchins, I'll try mounting... thanks |
| 23:31.18 | blackjack | slaps jhutchins around a bit with a large trout |
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| 23:31.50 | jhutchins | sedulous: What are you looking for? |
| 23:32.01 | sedulous | abrotman, jhutchins: thanks. it works now: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/ --- used to get HTTP 503 earlier |
| 23:32.09 | jhutchins | grabs the trout for his smoker. |
| 23:32.25 | sedulous | python3-flask .. unfortunately it's not there |
| 23:32.50 | abrotman | I could have told you that :) |
| 23:34.00 | sedulous | oh screw it, jessie it is |
| 23:34.10 | sedulous | living on the edge |
| 23:34.39 | jhutchins | sedulous: Why not make it a dual-boot system? That way when jessie breaks you still have a usable computer. |
| 23:34.51 | jhutchins | sedulous: What is it you're looking for? Newer glibc? |
| 23:35.08 | sedulous | jhutchins: python3-flask |
| 23:35.20 | sedulous | i suppose i could install it locally with "pip" |
| 23:35.22 | jhutchins | sedulous: Oh, yeah, messing with python can break things. |
| 23:35.31 | jhutchins | !tell sedulous about ssb |
| 23:35.57 | sedulous | good idea, thanks |
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| 23:36.20 | abrotman | don't backport it |
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| 23:37.01 | themill | sedulous: or you could build a virtualenv with flask in it; pip and virtualenv are fine as long as you don't let them screw with the system paths |
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| 23:38.36 | james41382 | If I insert a module using modprobe and then I want to remove it I simply modprobe -r ? |
| 23:39.57 | sedulous | themill: doesn't pip only touch /usr/local/ anyway? |
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| 23:40.14 | Klaus_Dieter | james41382: yes or rmmod |
| 23:40.46 | abrotman | modprobe -r |
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| 23:41.28 | themill | sedulous: that still inserts things into the PYTHONPATH of every single python application on your machine and is going to lead to incompatibilities and tears. Within a virtualenv, the worst that happens is that it screws up just that one virtualenv which you can happily rm. |
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| 23:42.39 | sedulous | themill: good call |
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| 23:44.26 | themill | sedulous: yeah, random incompatible versions of modules in /usr/local then starts breaking upgrades of python related packages which leaves apt deeply unhappy etc etc |
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| 23:53.20 | lapt0p | I can't copy and paste files on Debian 6 |
| 23:53.42 | lapt0p | "The file operation is finished, but there are some errors." |
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| 23:54.05 | lapt0p | Can someone help me? Or it will remain a monologue? |
| 23:55.20 | dvs | lapt0p: You're not going to have much luck getting help with Debian 6. |
| 23:55.48 | lapt0p | Why? |
| 23:55.52 | lapt0p | It's a bad release? |
| 23:56.00 | lapt0p | Or it's outdated? |
| 23:56.02 | dvs | not the current release |
| 23:56.12 | lapt0p | Oh i see. |
| 23:56.24 | lapt0p | But i really don't have an idea why this happens |
| 23:56.27 | themill | lapt0p: you'd also need to say how you were copying things and what you were copying |
| 23:56.29 | lapt0p | It's an old hardware |
| 23:56.44 | lapt0p | I am copying an extracted .tar file |
| 23:56.47 | themill | ("cp" certainly doesn't generate error messages like that...) |
| 23:56.53 | lapt0p | I mean, the folder |
| 23:57.01 | lapt0p | which got extracted |
| 23:57.07 | lapt0p | and im copying it in a certain path |
| 23:57.25 | lapt0p | k |
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| 23:57.30 | lapt0p | slash home |
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