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| 08:01.15 | advorak | I just installed Debian on a desktop with a VGA port and it only seems to like 1024x768 or 800x600 resolution .. I require 1152x768 ... I am not sure the best way of achieving this ...... |
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| 08:03.23 | well_laid_lawn | advorak: check in a terminal with xrandr to see what options there are for the resolution |
| 08:03.31 | beepie | i'm trying this in shell today, in a vm, chmod 0 /bin/chmod, is there a way to reset permissions for /bin/chmod ? (here on debian/testing it isn't, even with chmod 755 /target/bin/chmod) |
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| 08:03.32 | beepie | ? |
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| 08:04.13 | advorak | well_laid_lawn, it just offers 1024x769, 800x600, 848x480, 640x480 .. |
| 08:04.22 | sep | trond var happy då ? |
| 08:04.47 | sep | bra :) |
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| 08:05.14 | well_laid_lawn | advorak: it might be the memory that's available that is limiting the resolution |
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| 08:06.12 | advorak | I've used Ubuntu in the past without problems .... is this a proprietary driver issue? :-P |
| 08:07.01 | advorak | video memory? ram? |
| 08:07.34 | well_laid_lawn | yes. paste your x log somewhere |
| 08:08.51 | advorak | well_laid_lawn, https://gist.github.com/advorak/951bf0b823e94ec891c5 |
| 08:08.56 | well_laid_lawn | k |
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| 08:11.33 | well_laid_lawn | by the log it is using the largest reolution for the monitor |
| 08:11.48 | well_laid_lawn | you could try adding a new modeline |
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| 08:15.14 | advorak | where would I add that to? |
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| 08:19.11 | well_laid_lawn | advorak: see 11.6 here https://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 |
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| 08:26.09 | advorak | well_laid_lawn, thanks, I think I will start there. |
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| 08:46.53 | PapaSierra | morning. i am logged in as foo. there are files owned by foo:foo and files owned by nobody:foo. as foo i can delete the foo:foo files, but i do not have permission to delete the nobody:foo files (they have -rw-r--r--). my question is with regards to a website deployment script (capistrano) so i need to find a solution that will allow capistrano to have permission to delete. |
| 08:47.12 | buu | PapaSierra: You need +w to delete |
| 08:47.53 | PapaSierra | buu: but that would be something inside of the way capistrano works right? |
| 08:48.06 | buu | Uh, who is creating the files? |
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| 08:48.36 | ChrisH | paddymahoney: without considering side effects and not knowing more: you will need group write and put both users into the same group. A set-gid for that group on the parent directory might be usefull, too. |
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| 08:49.38 | PapaSierra | well, when i deploy from my local machine, capistrano is the one that actually does the ssh in and does a git checkout and the puts the files in the right places. it's doing everything as "foo". however, when the web server runs it churns out some cache files (created by nginx+php) and it's those that are nobody:foo |
| 08:49.42 | PapaSierra | buu: ^ |
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| 08:50.21 | buu | PapaSierra: Then you need to change the permissions on the files created by the webserver, or simply cause it to 'run as' foo |
| 08:50.42 | buu | PapaSierra: If you can, change the webserver's umask to something like 012 |
| 08:50.46 | buu | I think |
| 08:51.08 | dokma | I need to spider all Croatian web sites and make a database of them. How would I go about it on Debian? |
| 08:51.10 | buu | I wish I could remember which bits meant what |
| 08:51.21 | buu | dokma: The same way you would on any other operating system? |
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| 08:51.37 | dokma | buu, trying to sound smart? |
| 08:51.54 | PapaSierra | buu i'll take a look at the way nginx is run and see if i can tell it to run as foo |
| 08:52.16 | buu | dokma: Trying to explain the silliness of your question. |
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| 08:52.52 | PapaSierra | buu: hmm... nginx is running as nginx:www-data |
| 08:53.02 | dokma | buu, that's not what I asked for |
| 08:53.10 | dokma | so the question still stands. |
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| 08:53.29 | buu | dokma: Well, you can ask a better question or get help from someone else |
| 08:53.41 | dokma | I'll opt for #2 |
| 08:53.45 | PapaSierra | buu: ahhh... phpfpm is running as nobody:sleepout |
| 08:53.47 | ChrisH | dokma: as the croation NIC to provide the all registered domains.... or NSA or whoever you trust |
| 08:53.54 | PapaSierra | well nobody:foo |
| 08:54.16 | buu | PapaSierra: Can you change its umask? |
| 08:54.18 | dokma | ChrisH, well I thought to start spidering from the top HR directory as a good start |
| 08:54.28 | dokma | but I wonder which tools are used to do that on Debian |
| 08:54.35 | ChrisH | PapaSierra: why can"t your deploymentscript get sudo rights and chown the files. |
| 08:54.42 | dokma | all I ever used for anything similar was wget |
| 08:54.48 | dokma | but I doubt that's enough |
| 08:54.59 | cff | Why is Java not updated to lastest version on Debian? |
| 08:55.17 | PapaSierra | buu: i don't understand umasks yet, but i'll note that as something to research for a possible solution. |
| 08:55.18 | ChrisH | dokma: Please explain "start spidering from the top HR directory" in details. What is HR directory and how to get there. |
| 08:55.25 | cff | Do you *know* that the previous Java versions are filled with vulnerabilities? |
| 08:55.40 | dokma | it's this: http://www.hr and contains a directory of croatian websites |
| 08:55.40 | buu | PapaSierra: umask is the setting that controls the permissions on files created by a process |
| 08:55.54 | cff | By installing openjdk-7-jre I get java version "1.7.0_25" |
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| 08:56.06 | dokma | so if I had some sort of spider I would like to direct it to start there and make a database of all the websites it can find |
| 08:56.07 | buu | PapaSierra: You need to modify the umask of the phpfm process so that it creates files that are group writable |
| 08:56.12 | osfd | Do you know an opensource hosted calendar that I might be able to sync from my phone and computerS ? |
| 08:56.14 | osfd | please |
| 08:56.18 | PapaSierra | ChrisH: capistrano does have a "use sudo" option, but i've managed to avoid needing that until now by *so far* setting the users up somewhat correctly. having said that my linux knowledge is pretty basic |
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| 08:56.34 | cff | I'm on Debian 7.2 |
| 08:56.36 | buu | PapaSierra: Or change to user foo |
| 08:57.09 | dokma | ChrisH, but back to my original question. Is there some sorts of spidering tool on Debian? |
| 08:57.09 | ChrisH | dokma: wget,curl,lync and bash will help you |
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| 08:57.24 | PapaSierra | buu: i think i understand what you mean by umask now, however i'm thinking changing phpfpm to run as foo:foo might just be a lot simpler (more correct???) |
| 08:57.29 | buu | PapaSierra: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-linux-unix-umask-value-usage.html this is a somewhat grammatically poor article on the subject |
| 08:57.39 | PapaSierra | buu ty |
| 08:57.43 | buu | PapaSierra: Its probably easier, yes. |
| 08:57.44 | dokma | ChrisH, I hoped there was something more specialized |
| 08:57.50 | buu | Its technically less secure |
| 08:57.56 | dokma | but in absence I could manage with wget and bash |
| 08:58.34 | ChrisH | dokma: nothing I am aware of. |
| 08:58.45 | dokma | ChrisH, thanks for your time |
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| 08:59.16 | cff | Why is Java not updated to lastest version on Debian? Do you *know* that the previous Java versions are filled with vulnerabilities? By installing openjdk-7-jre I get java version "1.7.0_25" I'm on Debian 7.2 |
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| 09:00.24 | ChrisH | ,v openjdk-7-jre |
| 09:00.25 | judd | Package: openjdk-7-jre on i386 -- wheezy: 7u3-2.1.7-1; jessie: 7u21-2.3.9-5; wheezy-security: 7u25-2.3.10-1~deb7u1; sid: 7u25-2.3.12-4 |
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| 09:00.28 | ec|ipse | I do not see files and folders I create in the desktop, on my desktop |
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| 09:01.10 | cff | ChrisH: latest version is 7u45 |
| 09:01.32 | cff | time to move to ArchLinux |
| 09:01.42 | ChrisH | !sns |
| 09:01.43 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
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| 09:02.08 | cff | it was realeased for months! |
| 09:02.22 | cff | june/july |
| 09:02.29 | cff | what month is this ? |
| 09:02.41 | ChrisH | cff: and you are sure the security fixes are not in 7u25-2.3.10-1~deb7u1? |
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| 09:03.13 | bezaban | openjdk != oracle java |
| 09:03.49 | bezaban | the browser plugin parts are not in openjdk, which is where the latest media frenzy over java has been about. |
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| 09:05.08 | confrey | hi everybody |
| 09:05.28 | cff | bezaban: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/jre7-openjdk/ |
| 09:05.32 | cff | jre7-openjdk 7.u45_2.4.3-1 |
| 09:06.05 | buu | ec|ipse: How are you creating these files? |
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| 09:06.20 | confrey | my acer 1810tz resume oin any events, a simple key pressing (any key) it's enough to resume it after suspend, I dont' want it, I want to resume by power button only, how may I do that? |
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| 09:06.28 | ec|ipse | buu: touch |
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| 09:07.19 | buu | ec|ipse: And where exactly are you creating them? |
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| 09:07.26 | ec|ipse | Desktop |
| 09:07.41 | buu | confrey: Isn't that sleep not suspend? |
| 09:07.58 | buu | ec|ipse: That's not a very specific answer |
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| 09:08.47 | confrey | buu, it go in sleeping and resume on any events ( any key pressing), so it resume itself while carring it in my bag |
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| 09:09.11 | ec|ipse | buu: ~/Desktop , so user@comp:~/Desktop$ touch abc.txt |
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| 09:09.25 | ec|ipse | buu: ls lists the file, but I see nothing on my desktop |
| 09:09.33 | buu | ec|ipse: And which window manager? |
| 09:09.48 | ec|ipse | i believe this is gnome |
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| 09:10.39 | buu | ec|ipse: Does anything appear on your desktop? |
| 09:10.59 | ec|ipse | buu: no icons, no. I haven't seen any so far. (newly installed) |
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| 09:13.50 | ec|ipse | buu: it was in settings, i fixed it. thanks for the help |
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| 09:14.21 | buu | oh |
| 09:14.23 | buu | Heh, ok. |
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| 09:19.21 | JyZyXEL | what was the name of the tool that uploaded a file to some text paste service? |
| 09:19.42 | hoyang_ | pastebin.com? |
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| 09:20.09 | well_laid_lawn | pastebinit ? |
| 09:20.29 | JyZyXEL | i thought pastebinit broke years ago |
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| 09:37.37 | lancelot_of | hi there |
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| 09:37.49 | lancelot_of | hallo abrotman |
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| 09:39.12 | lancelot_of | even after BIOS upgrade, strongly suggested by abrotman during his kind support of last 2 days, i stil get drm and ACPI messages in kernel at boot time and after hibernation/resume cycles...http://paste.debian.net/68399/ |
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| 09:58.39 | ChrisH | lancelot_of: I just checked these drm lines in your paste: they look similar to all I have seen before. |
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| 09:59.26 | ChrisH | lancelot_of: and what ACPI is unexpected? looks also OK |
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| 10:05.16 | michaelis | Hi. In what package do I find pdfedit or similar program? |
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| 10:11.04 | afidegnum | hi, please, after installation, i can't receive incoming mails. please, can you help? |
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| 10:14.44 | peterrooney | michaelis: apt-get install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search bin/pfedit # covers all similiar questions |
| 10:15.08 | afidegnum | who is the admin here please? |
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| 10:15.48 | michaelis | peterrooney: Thank you. |
| 10:16.26 | afidegnum | I have a user of a name Jounes who is requesting for being unban, that he profusely admit his mistakes and promise not to repeat them |
| 10:16.37 | afidegnum | it's joules rather |
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| 10:18.05 | madmac2501 | where can I read about tasksel file syntax? |
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| 10:19.45 | lancelot_of | ChrisH, do you think those drm lines are not weird/solvable/tricky? |
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| 10:21.50 | afidegnum_ | hi |
| 10:21.58 | Silex | Hello, I'm creating a .deb for amd64 architecture, but I'd like one of my dependencies to install the i386 version. How am I supposed to proceed? |
| 10:22.16 | Silex | "Depends: foo:i386" doesn't work (invalid syntax) |
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| 10:25.07 | afidegnum | hi, any answer to my situation? |
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| 10:25.55 | ChrisH | lancelot_of: which line of these looks weird to you? |
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| 10:26.37 | Iridos | dpkg, tell michaelis about apt-file |
| 10:27.32 | Iridos | michaelis, that said, there is no program "pdfedit". There is "flpsed" which can edit and export postscript/pdf in a very simple way |
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| 10:27.38 | crane | has someone here an ocsp server running? i did not find much informations about it in the internet |
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| 10:27.48 | afidegnum | hi, please on my server, I can't receive any incomnig mail |
| 10:27.54 | afidegnum | what can be the cause? |
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| 10:28.23 | qwertz | Hi, is there a quick way to get the usage of the ulimit parameters on a system? |
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| 10:29.29 | Iridos | michaelis, there's also acrobats reader in debian-multimedia, which can make annotations. There's a couple of programs that can convert PDF into an editable format (e.g. abiword), albeit mostly with not very satisfactory results |
| 10:30.00 | Iridos | qwertz, "help ulimit"? |
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| 10:30.22 | lancelot_of | ChrisH, lines 682-689 and 718-720 of previous paste |
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| 10:30.42 | Iridos | afidegnum, that you haven't configured your email server? :P |
| 10:31.46 | afidegnum | well, everything was configured by default, but I don't know what configuration is left to be done |
| 10:31.56 | afidegnum | I am currently using squirrelmail to read mesages |
| 10:32.08 | afidegnum | I can send the message all right but can't receive it |
| 10:32.17 | afidegnum | that's when I tried to reply the message |
| 10:32.37 | abrotman | you have a mail log |
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| 10:33.18 | afidegnum | yes |
| 10:33.24 | Iridos | Silex, I don't think you can have cross-architecture dependencies... I don't *know* but I think that wouldn't make sense at all... for one, by default a system only has one architecture, there's no guarantee that a second architecture would be available on that system... |
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| 10:33.29 | afidegnum | here is it |
| 10:33.31 | afidegnum | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6493363/ |
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| 10:33.59 | ChrisH | lancelot_of: OK. both parts are BIOS releated and can only be fixed by the HW vendor. |
| 10:34.01 | PapaSierra | buu: so changing the php-fpm user to foo:foo actually broke other parts of the site, not exactly sure why. it's like the cache writer didn't have permission any longer to write to the cache directory |
| 10:35.36 | lancelot_of | ChrisH, the strange thing is that i get them even after the BIOS upgrade... |
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| 10:36.02 | abrotman | lancelot_of: bios upgrade doesnt mean they have fixed it, but they may have |
| 10:36.18 | abrotman | lancelot_of: are you showing any problems now? |
| 10:36.22 | ChrisH | lancelot_of: then your HW vendor did not fix everything, which is quite normal as they offer some windows modules to workaround their issues. |
| 10:36.23 | qwertz | help ulimit |
| 10:36.23 | lancelot_of | abrotman, see you again, ok |
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| 10:36.39 | abrotman | lancelot_of: I'm sleeping :) |
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| 10:36.54 | lancelot_of | abrotman, no problems up to now |
| 10:36.56 | abrotman | qwertz: in the terminal |
| 10:37.30 | abrotman | lancelot_of: might be safe to ignore them then, just be aware of further bios relaeses |
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| 10:38.49 | michaelis | Iridos: Thank you. |
| 10:38.52 | ChrisH | lancelot_of: I see similar on my old Dell and no impact till now visible. Honestly I only check dmesg if something does not work as expected. |
| 10:39.35 | lancelot_of | abrotman, ChrisH ok thanks anyway for your valid support |
| 10:39.36 | afidegnum | abrotman: any insight? |
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| 10:40.14 | abrotman | afidegnum: start by fixing the warnings |
| 10:40.57 | abrotman | also note, phones browsers dont like pastebin sites .. |
| 10:41.37 | afidegnum | where is that? can you please tell me the lines? |
| 10:41.57 | abrotman | i closed it, but its there a few times |
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| 10:42.12 | quebre | hello |
| 10:42.45 | quebre | in debian i have mail.err, mail.info, mail.log, mail.warn... gosh, how can i make everything that is mail releated to go into /var/log/maillog ? |
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| 10:42.56 | lancelot_of | ok thanks again everybody, expecially abrotman and ChrisH , and have a nice day! |
| 10:43.04 | abrotman | lancelot_of: good luck! |
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| 10:43.37 | ChrisH | quebre: normally by modifying syslog.conf |
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| 10:44.35 | Voyager_MP | test |
| 10:45.14 | quebre | im using rsyslog.conf but that doesnt have matter i guess, so i have inside "mail.info -/var/log/mail.info" mail.warn "-/var/log/mail.warn" etc. should i remove these files or redirect output for each entry of mail. to /var/log/maillog ? |
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| 10:45.44 | abrotman | comment them out perhaps |
| 10:45.55 | quebre | ok |
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| 10:46.07 | quebre | mail.* -/var/log/mail.log |
| 10:46.13 | quebre | this line is essential i guess |
| 10:46.18 | ChrisH | quebre: if YOU want to do that, feel free. But sperated logs make sense.... most times. |
| 10:46.30 | quebre | ChrisH: not for me and my script ;) |
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| 10:46.36 | abrotman | adjust logrotate accordingly |
| 10:46.43 | quebre | abrotman: ok |
| 10:46.44 | quebre | thanks |
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| 10:47.52 | abrotman | dselect: hi? |
| 10:47.53 | dselect | hello, abrotman |
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| 11:47.00 | leroy_hernandez | good morning there everyone. i was hoping that maybe someone could give me a hand with an issue im having with a fresh debian install. the computer its installed on is a dell inspiron 700m, and the problem is that i discovered that when you close the lid of the laptop the computer doesnt suspend or hibernate or whatever its called. all i managed to figure out on my own is that i should check "gnome power manager" to change my |
| 11:47.04 | leroy_hernandez | s available |
| 11:49.54 | flypp | search "energy" on your desktop manager preferences |
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| 11:50.51 | ChrisH | leroy_hernandez: is there any acpi modules named dell-something? |
| 11:51.52 | leroy_hernandez | flypp: the only thing like that is "Power" in the gnome prefferences panel and thats the gnome power manager is it not? at any rate thtats the place where i said i have no lid options |
| 11:52.18 | leroy_hernandez | ChrisH: you mean installed? if so then im not sure how to check |
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| 11:54.20 | local | hello. Is there any way on a Debian shell prompt to generate a new HTML file which will contain already the html and body tags ? I mean something like a template. Is there any package, tool or similar available with which I could do that? |
| 11:54.21 | ChrisH | leroy_hernandez: you should have some acpi modules loaded: lsmod | grep acpi |
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| 11:55.22 | flypp | leroy_hernandez, instal gnome-tweak-tool. Then use google |
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| 11:55.51 | leroy_hernandez | ChrisH: acpi_cpufreq, mperf, processor, are the only things listed as running |
| 11:55.52 | ChrisH | leroy_hernandez: check loading some of these modules: dell-laptop dell-wmi |
| 11:56.11 | linuxthefish | how to echo hard disk activity to system beep? |
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| 11:56.23 | vyrly | Hi, I want to verify Debian DVD checksum. I have 3 DVD, but on the page (http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.2.0/amd64/iso-dvd/) there are sums for 10 DVD's? |
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| 11:56.26 | leroy_hernandez | ChrisH: ok ill look into it |
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| 11:57.08 | vyrly | Checksum for DVD doesn't match any of these |
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| 12:01.57 | boratynskikamil | Hello; I would like to see console output from virtual_machine; so I type command: virsh console domain_name; I got a message that Escape character is Ctrl+], but I do not see any output. Where should I look the reason of this problem? |
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| 12:13.59 | Voyager_MP | @boratynskik Hi I would like the same ;-) |
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| 12:17.38 | afidegnum | hello are you online ? |
| 12:18.14 | ChrisH | I have no clue on the virsh problem, but "virsh console no output" into google showed me: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11845280/virsh-console-hangs-at-the-escape-character |
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| 12:20.43 | afidegnum | hi all |
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| 12:22.37 | mtfk | anyone know why make-kpkg buildpacakge do not produce linux-iimage? |
| 12:22.39 | RedRYder | Evening All. I would like to know if an older dos game from GOG in MacOS is easier to run in Debian than trying to setup Wine or an emulator? |
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| 12:23.37 | rfree | what is the console line application to record an .iso? |
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| 12:23.51 | ChrisH | RedRYder: Give dosemu a try |
| 12:23.58 | rfree | without messing with the iso, so that sha1sum of iso file and later sha1sum /dev/cdrom will give same checksum |
| 12:24.01 | ChrisH | rfree: record == burn to an image? |
| 12:24.04 | brx_ | if i install the minimal debien iso will it be as fast as crunchbang? |
| 12:24.32 | RedRYder | ChrisH: is that an emulator/ |
| 12:24.38 | afidegnum | hello, pls I don't know what is happening. my host alexprohost.com is not active. but it is a fully registered domain active for the past 8 days and the hosting server is also active. what could be happening? |
| 12:24.50 | rfree | ChrisH: yeap, burn .iso to a dvd |
| 12:24.52 | brx_ | afidegnum: dns |
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| 12:25.26 | afidegnum | brx_: please explain? |
| 12:25.30 | ChrisH | rfree: growisofs (the name is missleading) |
| 12:25.56 | brx_ | your hosting will have a dns ip address, you need to map your domain name to their dns |
| 12:26.02 | ChrisH | RedRYder: dosemeu is an emulator; run apt-cache show dosemu to read more about it |
| 12:26.07 | brx_ | did you register the domain name separatly from the hosting? |
| 12:26.14 | afidegnum | yes, |
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| 12:26.19 | brx_ | if you purchsed them togetehr it should be setup already, if not you need to do that manually |
| 12:26.20 | RedRYder | ChrisH: thanks. |
| 12:26.22 | afidegnum | it's a static IP |
| 12:26.24 | brx_ | oh, not sure then bth |
| 12:26.29 | rfree | ChrisH: what ever happened to cdrecord -dao foo.iso ? |
| 12:26.33 | brx_ | submit a report ticket at your hosting provider |
| 12:26.34 | afidegnum | which I created an A record to |
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| 12:26.47 | afidegnum | and it was working even this morning |
| 12:27.09 | brx_ | ahh i see, strange |
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| 12:27.56 | lng | Hi! I got packages problems suddenly - http://pastebin.com/dFqpjwH7 How to fix it? |
| 12:28.00 | ChrisH | rfree: IIRC it was renamed to wodim |
| 12:28.04 | afidegnum | I did few updates in teh ssytem earlier, and that's the end |
| 12:28.15 | lng | It might because I used PPA for PHP |
| 12:28.16 | rfree | ChrisH: wodim? ok |
| 12:29.24 | ChrisH | lng: not might be caused... |
| 12:29.35 | brx_ | ChrisH: is debien+openbox as 'lightwieght' as crunchbang? |
| 12:29.53 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell lng about ppa |
| 12:30.17 | ChrisH | brx_: dunno.. Never heard/used crunchbag |
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| 12:31.51 | lng | ChrisH: any ideas on fixing? |
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| 12:33.20 | ChrisH | lng: backup? reinstall? |
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| 12:36.37 | ChrisH | lng: you might be able to apt-get remove --purge or dpkg purge that stuff and use debian repos afterwards. I have no experience with kicking-out PPA stuff |
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| 12:37.18 | ChrisH | dpkg tell lng about frankendebian |
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| 12:40.36 | Voyager_MP | boratynskik found it, simply uncomment the T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 57600 vt100 line in your /etc/inittab and run init q, now you have your output |
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| 12:43.46 | leroy_hernandez | well it looks like even after checking the options present in gnome-tweak-tool i still cant get the lid switch working, i did discover however that acpi-listen is not registering any lid events. |
| 12:44.51 | sKeiths | what does status 'sleeping' mean in the system monitor process tab.? i have processes that are sleeping using over 100% of cpu |
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| 12:50.45 | julius_ | hi |
| 12:51.15 | peterrooney | sKeiths: it means they are sleeping _when ps looks at it_ because ps was the program running at the time. |
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| 12:51.51 | ChrisH | leroy_hernandez: you should start witth suspend to disk and suspend to ram from dektop enviroment before moving to the lid stuff. |
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| 12:52.18 | peterrooney | sKeiths: there's no other result possible on a single CPU system; multi-core systems may have more than one process not in the S state according to ps and friends. |
| 12:52.39 | sKeiths | any idea why i have over 100% processes. |
| 12:53.06 | sKeiths | i've a quad core btw |
| 12:53.44 | ChrisH | sKeiths: can you show that using top and/or atop? If yes paste it to paste.debian.net please. |
| 12:53.45 | peterrooney | sKeiths: they're using more than 1 cpu? ps percentage calculations aren't perfect? there's an option in top to show last used CPU. |
| 12:54.21 | julius_ | ive installed grub to a external drive via: grub-install /dev/external_drive --boot-directory=/mnt/externaldebian/boot (/mnt/externaldebian is where the root of the new system was mounted, including boot) grub is loaded from the drive, but it wont show a menu. the gub.conf was generated while the external drive was attached to this system, i removed the local system entries and this is whats left: http://www.pastebin.ca/2484238 the file is loc |
| 12:54.23 | julius_ | ated on the external drive in /boot/grub/grub.cfg any idea why the new grub wont load it? |
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| 12:55.44 | Heyoka | buenas |
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| 13:08.20 | sKeiths | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/68436/ for you interest to see 100 plus cpu usage. its been alot more than that, but trying to get it to do it on demand is not easy :) i am happy with explanation given above, it makes sense. |
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| 13:10.59 | bl4ckdu5t | I downloaded a firmware iso. Do i need to reinstall my debian to install this? |
| 13:11.45 | bl4ckdu5t | Or can i just run it from boot through a usb disk? |
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| 13:12.32 | Xylon | hi, how to list files owned by a package |
| 13:12.54 | daemonkeeper | bl4ckdu5t: The latter works. If you installed Debian already, you can also just enable the non-free repository and install them. |
| 13:13.02 | daemonkeeper | Xylon: dpkg -S / apt-file show. |
| 13:13.14 | Xylon | OK |
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| 13:13.28 | daemonkeeper | First only works for installed packages. |
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| 13:15.49 | ChrisH | sKeiths: VirtualBox is running mutlple theads and therefore on multiple CPUs. on a quadcore you might get up to 400% |
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| 13:16.03 | bl4ckdu5t | daemonkeeper: I can't connect to the internet except through cable which i don't have ubtil this firmware is installed so i can't communicate with the repos |
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| 13:16.35 | daemonkeeper | bl4ckdu5t: You can download the package manually out of band (e.g. from another operating system), copy to a USB pen drive and install from there. |
| 13:16.37 | ChrisH | sKeiths: install atop and run it as root |
| 13:17.30 | bl4ckdu5t | Ok thanks |
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| 13:19.20 | bl4ckdu5t | One more thing! I've read sudoers man page and i still can't add myself to the sudoers file |
| 13:19.57 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: man visudo |
| 13:20.18 | bl4ckdu5t | The sudoers man page is incomprehensible |
| 13:20.32 | bl4ckdu5t | Ok |
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| 13:21.45 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: or do you have a question about syntax? If running debian, just add yourself to sudo group |
| 13:22.32 | sKeiths | chrish: atop does the same. again, only for your interest, not expecting anything more here :) http://paste.debian.net/68444/ |
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| 13:23.32 | bl4ckdu5t | chrisH: That's what I'm trying to do |
| 13:24.49 | ChrisH | sKeiths: line 3 is the summary - lines 4-7 are the real cores. cpu vs CPU |
| 13:25.45 | sKeiths | atop give a much healier ram usage than system monitor. alway get annoyed when SM says i'm only using 40 % of my ram is not being used. atop says a few meg free. i much prefer that. |
| 13:26.06 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: then modify usermod -G sudo USERNAME ; logout and in again; then id -a should show sudo as additional group |
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| 13:27.14 | ChrisH | sKeiths: RAM usage is an ugly FAQ and good for discussions. I assume SM is more for end-users and atop is more the admin way to checking. |
| 13:27.58 | sKeiths | i want my os using every last drop of it. which linux is very good at. |
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| 13:29.18 | bl4ckdu5t | Thanks! It works |
| 13:29.43 | ChrisH | sKeiths: all Unix'ish and UNIX OS do use all memory given. |
| 13:30.02 | bl4ckdu5t | Y is the display for 'ls' like 'dir' when run as root? |
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| 13:31.26 | bl4ckdu5t | No different colors for folders or file types |
| 13:33.48 | ChrisH | sKeiths: man atop and search for CPU there is a longer paragraph explaining what is shown there. |
| 13:34.53 | Silex | Iridos: FYI, the solution is to depend on a meta package which is only available in i386 architecture and with "Multiarch: foreign" |
| 13:34.54 | lng | ChrisH: I was not able to purge it |
| 13:35.01 | Silex | took me a while to figure it out |
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| 13:36.44 | ChrisH | lng: thats sad. but that why its not recommended to mix stuff on productive systems. Time to consider a re-installation? |
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| 13:37.45 | lng | defnordic [~def@151.236.10.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] |
| 13:37.55 | lng | ChrisH: this is the laptop |
| 13:38.01 | lng | :-) |
| 13:38.58 | Iridos | Silex, makes sense... I thought in that direction, but couldn't think of the keyword "foreign" |
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| 13:41.04 | ChrisH | lng: A Laptop can be a productive system, at least two of mine are considered productive ones. |
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| 13:43.14 | bl4ckdu5t | ChrisH: Since I added myself to sudo group, my external hdd fails to be mounted |
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| 13:43.57 | bl4ckdu5t | It says unprivileged users cannot mount |
| 13:44.35 | bl4ckdu5t | NTFS block devices using FUSE library |
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| 13:48.41 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: did you remove yourself from fuse group? |
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| 13:51.04 | Mattx | in case anyone of you know.. why is that curl is not adding ?query=.. to the url? curl -v "http://example.com/" --data-urlencode query="foo bar" |
| 13:52.11 | bl4ckdu5t | No i didn't tamper with anything beyond what you gave |
| 13:53.21 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: show the line id -a gives here, please |
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| 13:56.02 | bl4ckdu5t | uid=1000(foo) gid=1000(foo) groups=1000(foo) |
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| 13:56.43 | bl4ckdu5t | Sorry groups=1000(sudo) |
| 13:57.33 | bl4ckdu5t | 27(sudo) |
| 13:57.48 | bl4ckdu5t | Sorry for my mistakes |
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| 13:58.19 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: that should look different. grrr.. my fault. do you have another existing user? |
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| 13:58.58 | bl4ckdu5t | It used to show a lot more before when i run id -a |
| 13:58.59 | bl4ckdu5t | No I'm the only user |
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| 14:00.17 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: can you scroll back to a previous id -a output? as you logged out Iassume not. Then we will create a new user, get the groups and delete it afterwards. OK? |
| 14:00.24 | bl4ckdu5t | I can create a new user if there's need for that |
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| 14:01.07 | leroy_hernandez | ChrisH: sorry i took so long to respond, im slightly preoccupied with the children at the moment but i did try suspending from within the gui and it seems to work just fine (barring my screen stays black when restarting but there is a workaround for that) but at this point i know the suspeng and hibernate stuff is working, i just need to get acpi seeing the lidswitch events i assume. im pretty much a newbie at linux however s |
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| 14:04.28 | jargon | is there a way to have a file/directory be owned by more than one group with different permissions? |
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| 14:04.47 | bl4ckdu5t | I created the new user and here's what i got |
| 14:04.59 | abrotman | jargon: ACLs, but probably not what you want |
| 14:06.00 | bl4ckdu5t | uid=1001(foo) gid=1001(foo) groups=1001(foo) |
| 14:06.17 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: thats all you get so far? |
| 14:06.48 | jargon | abrotman: say i have 4 users and a directory with a bunch of subdirectories. i want one user to have rwx on everything, and all users to have r-x. additionally,each of the other 3 users should have rwx on *one* directory respectively. as if it were their home,basically |
| 14:07.09 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: lets start using: usermod -a -G dialout,cdrom,audio,video,plugdev,fuse USERNAME |
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| 14:07.24 | bl4ckdu5t | Yea! Do you think it may be because i ran the first usermod command as root? |
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| 14:07.55 | abrotman | what'd I do now? |
| 14:07.58 | abrotman | oh .. |
| 14:08.02 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: you need to run as root, but we missed the -a switch |
| 14:08.30 | abrotman | jargon: you didn't mention the subdirectories! |
| 14:08.38 | jargon | abrotman: sorry |
| 14:09.16 | abrotman | jargon: anyway, sounds like maybe you can work this out with groups, but ACLs are a different beast, and more complicated |
| 14:09.21 | Han | I've got a livecd image installed on a usb stick. It boots fine but the installer complains it can't find the cd image. How can I fix that? |
| 14:09.35 | jargon | abrotman: hmm |
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| 14:11.57 | bl4ckdu5t | ChrisH: I did that but nothing seemed to change |
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| 14:13.07 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: open a new terminal and run su - USERNAME there; then id -a |
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| 14:16.16 | bl4ckdu5t | Now i see the changes. They've been included |
| 14:16.55 | jhutchins_wk | Han: Use the netinstall iso to create an image, don't use unetbootin. |
| 14:16.57 | bl4ckdu5t | But the hdd still refused to be mounted |
| 14:17.01 | leroy_hernandez | muahahahahaha i reinstalled acpid and now acpi_listen is reporting "button/lid LID open" and "button/lid LID closed" as it should. |
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| 14:18.08 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: you need to do the logout/login again |
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| 14:20.11 | bl4ckdu5t | Yea i did that |
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| 14:22.25 | bl4ckdu5t | I'm sorry i've taken so much of your time ChrisH |
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| 14:23.30 | Sagar | hello |
| 14:23.30 | Sagar | My send mail doesn't seems to work. Can anybody please help me. I am using Debian 7 Wheezy |
| 14:24.01 | ChrisH | bl4ckdu5t: Once more: the incorrect usermod command was my fault. Does it work now again? |
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| 14:25.52 | Sagar | http://pastebin.com/GFmKPwni |
| 14:26.28 | bl4ckdu5t | Since i just installed the OS and most of my files are still backed up, maybe i should just reinstall the OS |
| 14:26.43 | bl4ckdu5t | It still isn't working |
| 14:27.08 | bl4ckdu5t | This time i'll install with the firmware |
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| 14:27.51 | jargon | u need write permissions to enter a directory? |
| 14:28.08 | Sagar | anyone |
| 14:28.09 | Sagar | ? |
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| 14:28.38 | oznt | can someone help me with django and apache on debian maybe? |
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| 14:31.16 | Sagar | oznt : #httpd |
| 14:31.38 | Sagar | and #django |
| 14:31.50 | oznt | Sagar, thanks will try there, no answer in django so far |
| 14:31.56 | Sagar | np |
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| 14:33.10 | kexibq | oznt: what is the problem? |
| 14:33.12 | kexibq | !ask |
| 14:33.12 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 14:33.13 | jhutchins_wk | Sagar: Tell us what you tried to do, how you tried to do it, what you expected to happen, and what happended instead. |
| 14:33.46 | oznt | see this http://pastie.org/8517010 |
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| 14:34.09 | oznt | the obvious problem, i can start my app with the configuration above I am going nuts already. ... |
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| 14:34.29 | oznt | kexibq, i posted the pastie |
| 14:34.45 | Sagar | jhutchins_wk > http://pastebin.com/FHXK9StA >>> i am trying to send and receive mails using debian send mail fucntion but it doesn't seems to work. |
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| 14:35.36 | kexibq | oznt: my bad, let's take a look. |
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| 14:37.36 | ovidiu_calbajos | Hello, I have a little problem connecting to a pptp VPN. I'm running Debian 7.2 with KDE 4.8.4 and the settings are just like a colleague of mine which runs ArchLinux. Here is the error log http://pastebin.kde.org/pixh0bp3z and the config file is this http://pastebin.kde.org/pzqskesof . Could somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 14:40.09 | ChrisH | ovidiu_calbajos: You know that PPTP cannot be considered secure these days? Lines 22-23 are relevant to me. |
| 14:40.26 | Sagar | Sendmail < |
| 14:40.32 | Sagar | Doesn't work |
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| 14:41.44 | wols | Sagar: which MTA do you use? |
| 14:42.02 | Sagar | MTA? |
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| 14:42.09 | wols | mail transport agent |
| 14:42.21 | wols | !tell Sagar about doesn't work |
| 14:42.50 | ChrisH | Sagar: you paste does not show anything related to mailing but lines 24-27 which show DNS is not working. No DNS not mailing |
| 14:42.53 | Sagar | sendmail |
| 14:43.02 | wols | why are you using sendmail? |
| 14:43.05 | Sagar | >>> http://pastebin.com/GFmKPwni |
| 14:43.11 | Sagar | Because Anope supports it |
| 14:43.13 | ovidiu_calbajos | ChrisH: yes I know.. but this the VPS that is used by in my company.... However I noticed those lines too but the settings are OK, as I said previously a colleague of mine uses Arch with the same config file and he doesn't have any problems |
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| 14:43.53 | wols | Sagar: the way you are going you won't get help |
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| 14:44.22 | wols | Sagar: and I strongly you stay with a simpler MTA like exim, postfix, etc. and of course fix your DNS |
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| 14:46.22 | zee | hey guys |
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| 14:47.20 | iax8664 | Hi! |
| 14:47.20 | zee | i have a FSC Primergy server, and i'd like to put debian on it. Does anyone here know where i can get an iso with support for it? |
| 14:48.27 | wols | zee: what special support do you need? |
| 14:48.30 | wols | !tell zee about ig |
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| 14:48.45 | zee | no.. its hardware support |
| 14:48.56 | zee | im well aware of how to install and operate debian.- |
| 14:49.00 | julius_ | ive installed grub to a external drive via: grub-install /dev/external_drive --boot-directory=/mnt/externaldebian/boot (/mnt/externaldebian is where the root of the new system was mounted, including boot) grub is loaded from the drive, but it wont show a menu. the gub.conf was generated while the external drive was attached to this system, i removed the local system entries and this is whats left: http://www.pastebin.ca/2484238 the file is loc |
| 14:49.01 | julius_ | ated on the external drive in /boot/grub/grub.cfg any idea why the new grub wont load it? |
| 14:49.05 | wols | then answer the question |
| 14:49.14 | zee | i just did |
| 14:49.20 | wols | and if you were aware, I'd say you wouldn't have to ask: after all you know how |
| 14:49.27 | zee | where can I download an iso with support for the server hardware |
| 14:49.38 | zee | wols.. be quiet |
| 14:49.44 | iax8664 | I bootstrapped a Debian Wheezy amd64 on my Mac Mini (2007, 32-bit EFI) and installed grub-efi-ia32 and I am able to boot linux. I can connect via SSH, but I am not able to use the USB keyboard. lsusb says that it's unable to initialize. The controller gets detected by lspci and modules are loaded, though. What can I do about it? |
| 14:49.45 | wols | nowhere. there is only one debian installer not many |
| 14:49.53 | themill | zee: as wols said, perhaps you can tell us what is special about this thing that it needs special support |
| 14:50.07 | wols | well firmware and a few different DEs, but the installer is ALWAYS the same and always the same kernel |
| 14:50.16 | lord_rob | is it possible to know my motherboard model name ? |
| 14:50.25 | wols | lord_rob: lshw might show you |
| 14:50.36 | zee | themill: most likely raid controller etc etc. Just like there is a debian iso with HP firmware etc. |
| 14:50.36 | wols | it should show you the BIOS ID string afaik which you can the google for |
| 14:50.37 | lord_rob | thanks wols |
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| 14:50.58 | themill | zee: if you can't tell us specifically what you need, we can't tell you specifically what to download. |
| 14:51.04 | zee | sigh... |
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| 14:52.11 | iax8664 | Running linux on pure EFI is an odd experience. Firewire also refuses to work. (couldn't get irq0) |
| 14:52.24 | themill | zee: umm... you're the one with the box. In the absence of either mind reading ability of you providing us with information, what do you expect? |
| 14:52.37 | wols | silver spoons |
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| 14:52.43 | zee | atm not a whole lot |
| 14:52.51 | themill | wanders off to work on the ESP-over-IRC thing |
| 14:52.55 | Sagar | wols : How can i fix my dns and work with sendmail only |
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| 14:53.11 | wols | Sagar: for starters, check your /etc/hosts |
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| 14:54.10 | Sagar | wols : opened it |
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| 14:56.41 | Sagar | wols : should i pastebin? |
| 14:57.10 | wols | you should read the manpage for the file. it shows you what should be in there |
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| 14:57.36 | Sagar | manpage of what? |
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| 14:58.51 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.26 | Sagar | X.X |
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| 15:01.52 | iax8664 | Be back later.. See you! |
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| 15:03.45 | jhutchins_wk | Sagar: http://wooledge.org/~greg/mail.html |
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| 15:11.26 | doebi | can i use my notebook as monitor for my raspi? |
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| 15:14.32 | leroy_hernandez | ok this is a bit odd, the script located at /etc/acpi/lid.sh looks like its trying to call scrpits located in /etc/acpi/local/ to initiate the sleep and wake cycles. problem is i dont see a /local/ dirrectory in /etc/acpi/. is this a known issue? |
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| 15:17.00 | jhutchins_wk | doebi: yes. |
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| 15:18.13 | doebi | jhutchins_wk: any hint, link to tut? |
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| 15:21.08 | jhutchins_wk | doebi: There's no standard procedure, it depends on what you're doing with the Pi. Basically you just use ssh to connect with it, and you can forward graphical apps over ssh. A full GUI environment using xdhcp and a login manager is probably more than the Pi should try to run. |
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| 15:23.57 | leroy_hernandez | i could be mistaken but i believe the pi can handle teamviewer according to the hw specs |
| 15:24.05 | doebi | jhutchins_wk: well x-forwarding is not what i was thinking of. i thought of connecting it with a HDMI-wire, since my monitor doesnt supprt HDMI |
| 15:24.12 | leroy_hernandez | i havent tried it on mine though |
| 15:24.42 | Sagar | it says mailmemaster@gmail.com... Connecting to [127.0.0.1] via relay... mailmemaster@gmail.com... Deferred: Connection refused by [127.0.0.1] |
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| 15:25.07 | doebi | ssh -x/VNC/Teamviewer is not what i want |
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| 15:25.38 | leroy_hernandez | doebi: is it a model with the composit video out? |
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| 15:35.49 | doebi | leroy_hernandez: yeahh it is. nvm i took the long walk to the living room and connected it to tv using HDMI :) |
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| 15:36.18 | doebi | leroy_hernandez: thanks anyway :) |
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| 15:37.26 | leroy_hernandez | doebi: haha yeah that works too but an option you might consider in the future is a composite capture card, you can get a usb one on ebay for around $10USD on ebay |
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| 15:38.06 | leroy_hernandez | that is usually what i use for my pi when i need to have access to video and usb conneciun to my pc at the same time |
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| 15:46.46 | Sagar | works like charm with postfix |
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| 15:53.15 | jhutchins_wk | doebi: For that kind of a setup you would need a video capture device on the laptop. |
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| 16:17.39 | rafuch0 | triying to compile a program in ARM here .. . |
| 16:17.55 | rafuch0 | using qemu |
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| 16:29.38 | Aliekzhi | hi, is there logs for openvpn with default config ? |
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| 16:30.45 | Aliekzhi | can't find any logs in /var/logs or /etc/openvpn |
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| 16:35.19 | Asenar | Hi, I have about installing a font (inconsolata or "source code" from adobe) : it's found with fc-cache -f -v, but missing in xfontsel. ( I'm not sure it's the right place to ask for help) |
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| 16:41.05 | sepero | Question: Using dnsmasq, how can change the lookup port from 53 to 5353 for the master dns server being connected to? In other words, the master is using port 5353 |
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| 16:42.08 | sepero | I need to do this, because my isp is intercepting all lookups on port 53. (verizon scum) |
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| 16:46.30 | xand | sepero: I don't think it has such an option. maybe you could use some other means to do the redirect |
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| 16:49.36 | forcer | A port redirect using iptables would work I guess ... |
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| 16:50.32 | xand | yeah something like that. |
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| 16:50.54 | sepero | forcer: great |
| 16:51.21 | sepero | forcer: i'll look into it |
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| 16:54.32 | PapaSierra | hi. i'm writing a script that primes a cache after deploying a website. it just needs to load the home page as if it were a browser doing it. i don't even care to see the output. from the linux shell is there a right way to do this? |
| 16:56.00 | petn-randall | PapaSierra: Try curl or wget |
| 16:56.21 | PapaSierra | petn-randall: wget myurl.com -O /dev/null right? |
| 16:56.49 | petn-randall | PapaSierra: Should work, yes. If you need javascript or logins, it will be more complicated though. |
| 16:56.59 | petn-randall | PapaSierra: Also check the wonderful man page with 'man wget'. |
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| 16:57.51 | sepero | forcer: what file do i use to permanently add iptables rules? |
| 16:59.00 | PapaSierra | petn-randall: i don't need js or login so i'm ok. BUT the page is on https, so that adds a compilication |
| 16:59.22 | xand | curl and wget can do https fine. |
| 16:59.26 | forcer | sepero: There are some ideas here: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianFirewall - and there's also the iptables-persistent package |
| 16:59.31 | xand | except some versions of wget don't support SANs |
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| 17:04.11 | PapaSierra | petn-randall: i was able to do "curl -k https://secureexample.com/index.html" the -k seemed to be enough to get rid of the SSL message |
| 17:04.19 | PapaSierra | does that make sense? |
| 17:04.24 | arun | guys when is the next stable release of debian gonna get out ? |
| 17:04.44 | xand | arun: not for a while. |
| 17:05.01 | zykotick9 | arun: the only "real" answer is "when it's ready" debian doesn't follow a release schedule |
| 17:05.29 | zykotick9 | notes my above statement isn't 100% accurate |
| 17:05.33 | arun | Zyferus: thanks for it , so when may it get ready ? |
| 17:06.42 | xand | I think it'll be a year or two |
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| 17:07.45 | zykotick9 | arun: you might find this interesting https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2013/11/msg00007.html |
| 17:07.45 | forcer | Kenny was released on 2009-02-15, squeeze on 2011-02-06, and wheezy on 2013-05-04, so expect something like first or second quarter of 2015. |
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| 17:13.48 | linuxthefish | initctl: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused |
| 17:13.52 | linuxthefish | what is this? |
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| 17:14.03 | linuxthefish | /etc/cron.daily/logrotate |
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| 17:14.13 | zykotick9 | linuxthefish: try #ubuntu |
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| 17:24.21 | linuxthefish | zykotick9: it's debian not ubuntu |
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| 17:26.07 | kunwon1 | i'm trying to restore a psql database from a dump file with `psql < bigdumpfile` and i get 'out of memory' errors. any way around this without getting more memory? |
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| 17:30.40 | zykotick9 | linuxthefish: you installed upstart on debian, why? (don't reply to that) well best of luck. |
| 17:32.12 | petn-randall | kunwon1: Paste the whole command + messages to http://paste.debian.net. Maybe also the last 10 minutes of /var/log/kern.log. |
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| 17:32.53 | petn-randall | linuxthefish: Same goes for you: Please paste the whole output with context to http://paste.debian.net. |
| 17:34.51 | kunwon1 | petn-randall: that's the entirety of the command and the error, and kern.log is empty, but alright - http://paste.debian.net/68471/ |
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| 17:40.11 | apollo13 | hi, there was a tool which did manage files in /etc (not etckeeper and not debconf, but pretty low level) and what happens when you reinstall a package, I can't figure out what it was |
| 17:40.52 | apollo13 | that package/program basically decided when or when not to reinstall config files in /etc/ |
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| 17:44.34 | haroldjfks | hi |
| 17:44.56 | haroldjfks | is it possible to resync a raid 1 array while system running in normal mode? |
| 17:45.17 | apollo13 | ah ucf it was |
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| 17:46.26 | haroldjfks | apollo13 are you talking to me? someone who knows about that question? |
| 17:46.43 | apollo13 | haroldjfks: no that was just a follow up to my question |
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| 17:47.19 | haroldjfks | ok, thanks.. someone knows IF is possible to resync a raid 1 array while system running in normal mode? |
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| 17:48.30 | sajjadg | what's included in netinst images? |
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| 17:49.01 | GuestO5531 | hey! how? do i need to uninstall programs in debian correctly/completly? thx |
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| 17:53.00 | zykotick9 | sajjadg: a "base" system... that's about it. |
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| 17:53.51 | sajjadg | beside that. any X server package? |
| 17:54.00 | sajjadg | any DE or WM? |
| 17:54.11 | zykotick9 | sajjadg: not included on the media, but certainly downloadable. |
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| 18:13.53 | julius_ | hey |
| 18:14.04 | julius_ | is there a way to run the be |
| 18:14.06 | julius_ | ups |
| 18:14.24 | julius_ | is there a way to run the keyoard configuration from the installer again in a running debian? |
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| 18:16.10 | zykotick9 | julius_: try "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" |
| 18:17.02 | julius_ | no, there i can only choose english keyboard variants |
| 18:17.18 | rryoumaa | if you want to save your debconf settings, is it sufficient to just save the files you changed in etc, or do you need to also save the debconf database? |
| 18:17.45 | zykotick9 | julius_: go to "other" at the bottom |
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| 18:20.28 | abrotman | rryoumaa: there's a debconf-get-selections |
| 18:20.54 | julius_ | Zyferus, ah thx |
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| 18:22.27 | rryoumaa | abrotman: hmm, that warning sounds harrowing though |
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| 18:23.48 | rryoumaa | i can't figure out where the information for debconf is stored. if it is stored in the configuration files themselves, that's great. if they are in the debconf database, then isn't that pretty close to being etc-worthy? |
| 18:24.09 | julius_ | are there limits with debian 7.2 and 750gb drives when using grub? |
| 18:24.12 | rryoumaa | (fhs) |
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| 18:26.17 | Iridos | sheesh. most inkscape extensions in wheezy seem to be segfaulting... well, at least in the category with "perspective" in |
| 18:26.59 | sva | hey ho, noob-question, how to i find a .deb for madwifi? (background: using mint, trying to get wifi running, following this how-to: http://mentoliptus.blogspot.de/2008/03/linux-mint-wifi-howto.html) |
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| 18:29.24 | GNU\colossus | a howto from 2008? for enabling wifi hardware? |
| 18:29.31 | GNU\colossus | this does not bode well |
| 18:29.44 | GNU\colossus | sva, what hardware are you trying to get up and running? |
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| 18:30.02 | phy1729 | sva: ask the mint channel |
| 18:30.03 | mtn | sva: if you are using mint, you need to go to the mint channel, not debian |
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| 18:34.15 | abrotman | rryoumaa: warning? |
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| 18:35.46 | rryoumaa | abrotman: in the man page |
| 18:36.22 | rryoumaa | oh, maybe i don't need all that if i use apt-clone? |
| 18:36.56 | rryoumaa | hmm, no, apt-clone does not mention debconf |
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| 18:38.34 | rryoumaa | i guess the question is what happens if you clone a to b, does debconf figure out that you manually changed the files and default accordingly? |
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| 18:41.36 | sva | mtn: ah, okay, thought as it is debian based and i am just looking for the .deb it doesnt make a difference (and havent found mint directly though) |
| 18:41.42 | sva | mtn: thanks! |
| 18:41.51 | e1nh4nd3r | Hey, in Wheezy is /usr/lib64 now deprecated in favor of /usr/lib ? |
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| 18:42.51 | bazhang | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:44.21 | wols | e1nh4nd3r: no. /msg dpkg multiarch |
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| 18:45.06 | sva | bazhang: oh, thanks! (and another server...) :D |
| 18:45.17 | Nongeek | hello Debian |
| 18:45.46 | Nongeek | I upgraded squeeze to wheezy but kernel not upgraded :( |
| 18:46.08 | Nongeek | I lost mu sound also ! |
| 18:47.49 | Nongeek | any idea? |
| 18:48.05 | socomm | Nongeek: sound?! who neeed sound? |
| 18:48.13 | socomm | I just humm along with the youtube videos |
| 18:48.22 | Nongeek | I can't listen to music :( |
| 18:48.34 | socomm | Nongeek: buy a radio :^) |
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| 18:48.43 | Nongeek | Good idea |
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| 18:49.05 | Nongeek | gramophone :) |
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| 18:50.12 | Nongeek | any idea to solve my problem ? |
| 18:50.19 | zeta- | Saxophone ... should be loud enough |
| 18:50.43 | Bustin | Hello. I am just looking for some help setting up a cron job, that executes a .sql file, that contains a series of queries. Any help is appreciated. I currently have an entry in crontab " 3 * * * * /usr/bin/mysql -u root -p passwordhere database_name < /path/to/script.sql and nothing is occuring. |
| 18:50.53 | mtn | Nongeek: you didn't actually upgrade properly if the kernel didn't upgrade. you need to do the upgrade properly for things to work. |
| 18:51.17 | Iridos | Nongeek, just install the kernel manually... kernels are only upgraded automatically if you have a meta-package tracking the newest kernel installed (like e.g. linux-image-2.6-amd64) |
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| 18:51.31 | Nongeek | mtn: but i used apt-get update apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 18:51.45 | mtn | Nongeek: did you follow the release notes for wheezy? |
| 18:51.50 | Iridos | or install the meta-package that is correct for you |
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| 18:52.03 | Nongeek | no |
| 18:52.06 | Iridos | and yes... I think had you read the release notes they would have told you what to do |
| 18:52.12 | mtn | Nongeek: start there, for sure |
| 18:52.14 | Iridos | dpkg, squeeze->wheezy |
| 18:52.15 | dpkg | Read chapter 4 ("Upgrades from Debian 6.0") of the <release notes>. In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "squeeze" to "wheezy" (noting that <wheezy-backports> have changed on the mirrors). apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade. See also <squeeze->wheezy failures>. |
| 18:52.27 | Nongeek | Thanks |
| 18:52.28 | Iridos | dpkg, release notes |
| 18:52.28 | dpkg | Release notes for Debian 7 "Wheezy" are at http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/releasenotes . See also <squeeze->wheezy>, <install guide>. |
| 18:52.37 | Nongeek | I install Linux image manually |
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| 18:52.49 | Nongeek | Thank you |
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| 18:54.30 | Iridos | squeeze->wheezy failures |
| 18:54.34 | Iridos | dpkg, squeeze->wheezy failures |
| 18:54.36 | dpkg | Try: (a) upgrade in 2 steps: apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade (b) apt-get dist-upgrade -o APT::Immediate-Configure=0 (c) add squeeze back into sources.list; apt-get update; try again. (d) apt-get install apt; try again (e) apt-get install badpackage; try again (f) apt-get remove badpackage; apt-get install badpackage; try again (g) dpkg -r --force-depends badpackage; apt-get -f install; try again. |
| 18:54.44 | Iridos | oh, I remember that one :P |
| 18:56.38 | Iridos | Bustin, that should work if it also works on your commandline, i.e. outside a cron environment |
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| 18:59.12 | Bustin | Iridos: I have to mysql -u root -p (but then it prompts for a password) |
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| 19:00.12 | Jonuz | Can someone suggest me some good email-server packet? |
| 19:00.57 | RickyB98 | how do you search for a pid id knowing the name of the process? |
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| 19:01.23 | LordDeath | what is the current name of "gtk-qt-engine" in jessie? |
| 19:01.38 | LordDeath | I want to give gtk apps a "native" look on KDE |
| 19:03.01 | Iridos | Bustin, isn't it --password=somepwd ? oh... reading manpage helps... you should try it: "you cannot have a space between the option and the password." |
| 19:05.08 | Iridos | Jonuz, depends what's "good" for you. You could stick with exim4, which is the the default mta in debian. |
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| 19:05.46 | Bustin | Iridos: thank you very much. |
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| 19:05.51 | Bustin | that was what was happening, the space! |
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| 19:09.20 | wols | Jonuz: there is no single package for this. |
| 19:09.52 | wols | Jonuz: https://workaround.org/ispmail is a "high end" howto |
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| 19:10.44 | Jonuz | tyvm |
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| 19:19.09 | PapaSierra | how do i get wget to return a string (just echo it in the shell) instead of downloading a writing to a file? |
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| 19:20.01 | forcer | PapaSierra: -O - |
| 19:20.48 | PapaSierra | forcer: so the - means stdout? |
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| 19:21.06 | forcer | PapaSierra: Yep. That's a quite common convention, too. But sadly not universal. |
| 19:21.24 | PapaSierra | forcer: great, understood. ty |
| 19:21.48 | forcer | You're welcome :-) |
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| 19:23.32 | ashkezar_ | what is the best tools for web design in debian 7.2? |
| 19:23.40 | SpeedyG | define 'best' |
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| 19:24.23 | PapaSierra | forcer: one more question... is it possible to pass n to wget, where n is the number of times to download the resource? (not that same as retries) |
| 19:24.37 | PapaSierra | s/that/the |
| 19:25.10 | ashkezar_ | a tools like photoshop for Graphic and a tools like netbeans for web design |
| 19:25.22 | Warp4 | ashka, gimp is always good for graphics |
| 19:25.28 | SpeedyG | I believe netbeans is available on debian as well |
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| 19:25.31 | Warp4 | ashkezar_, , gimp is always good for graphics |
| 19:25.33 | SpeedyG | and indeed, for graphics, Gimp |
| 19:26.33 | ashkezar_ | thanks but gimp is hard to make slice my raw theme in gimp |
| 19:27.15 | Warp4 | ashkezar_, can you do it in photoshop? |
| 19:27.17 | SpeedyG | so is photoshop if you've never used it before :) |
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| 19:30.08 | ashkezar_ | yes i can, i worked with photoshop and designed some websites ! |
| 19:30.46 | ashkezar_ | I plan to be drawn in photoshop, I would convert to different parts of the Save for Web option for all the parts I really will be saved. |
| 19:31.01 | ashkezar_ | gimp can not do this |
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| 19:32.22 | sML | hi all |
| 19:32.41 | ashkezar_ | hi |
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| 19:34.22 | ashkezar_ | Warp4 , thanks |
| 19:35.21 | guest43242 | does debian work on tablets? |
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| 19:46.43 | Warp4 | guest43242, define "tablet" |
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| 19:47.33 | guest43242 | it has android 4 on it now ARM-8 |
| 19:47.45 | guest43242 | unknown brand |
| 19:48.06 | guest43242 | it looks like an oversized phone |
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| 19:48.19 | guest43242 | maybe 8" |
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| 19:51.35 | jhutchins_wk | guest43242: If you get it to work and tell us we'll all know the answer. |
| 19:52.04 | socomm | guest43242: yes, there are ways to install linux on tablets |
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| 19:53.23 | Jonuz | Anyone knows channel for talking about server managing? |
| 19:53.33 | Jonuz | #sysadmin seems to be invite only |
| 19:53.41 | Warp4 | Jonuz, what platform? |
| 19:53.45 | Jonuz | linux |
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| 19:53.52 | Warp4 | Jonuz, what distro? |
| 19:53.55 | Jonuz | debian |
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| 19:54.04 | Warp4 | Jonuz, then I think you are in the right place. |
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| 19:54.46 | Jonuz | Well distro doesn't really matter :D |
| 19:55.08 | Jonuz | I just thought if there is any general channel for that |
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| 19:56.11 | digdilem | that would be #linux then |
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| 19:56.26 | digdilem | but here's good too, and less noise |
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| 19:57.34 | boudiccas | where does debian store its emacs themes please? |
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| 19:59.25 | g00se | Just running a dual boot install using an xfce live stick. What i'm attempting to do is to install grub2 to another stick in /dev/sdc. I could swear i've done this before but the installer errors, with nothing much more than 'failed' in the gui. *SHould* it be possible? |
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| 20:03.19 | buu | PapaSierra: I take it you figured out your permissions issue? |
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| 20:05.02 | twanny796 | please check if this repo is working http://debian.res.um.edu.mt/debian/ ?? |
| 20:05.45 | Sh1G3rU | nope not working |
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| 20:07.03 | twanny796 | Sh1G3rU, how can I add / change another source? |
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| 20:07.33 | Warp4 | twanny796, you need to edit your sources.list file to do that |
| 20:08.13 | Sh1G3rU | twanny796, /etc/apt/source.list |
| 20:08.22 | twanny796 | Warp4, ...reading ;) |
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| 20:11.00 | PapaSierra | buu: yeah, thank you so much! what is did was changed phpfpm from running as nobody:foo to running as foo:foo. reason it didn't work first time is i did a "reload", not a "restart". so nothing actually changed! when i realised it needed a restart it all just worked. thank you so much |
| 20:11.19 | buu | PapaSierra: Ah, cool =] |
| 20:11.27 | PapaSierra | simple in the end ;) |
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| 20:11.44 | buu | Good to hear that. |
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| 20:12.37 | twanny796 | Warp4, where can I find a repo? |
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| 20:13.09 | Warp4 | twanny796, what are you looking for? |
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| 20:13.49 | Some_Person | Oh shit. I just made the mistake of deleting /boot on my VPS |
| 20:13.59 | twanny796 | Warp4, nagios |
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| 20:14.02 | Some_Person | What do I need to do to fix it? |
| 20:14.09 | Some_Person | (other than reinstall grub) |
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| 20:15.10 | g00se | Just running a dual boot install using an xfce live stick. What i'm attempting to do is to install grub2 to another stick in /dev/sdc. I could swear i've done this before but the installer errors, with nothing much more than 'failed' in the gui. *SHould* it be possible? |
| 20:15.16 | Some_Person | Any ideas? |
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| 20:15.35 | Some_Person | I meant to only delete the grub files, but I wiped the whole damn folder |
| 20:15.40 | Warp4 | twanny796, best to build that from source |
| 20:15.46 | jhutchins | Some_Person: I take it it's still running? |
| 20:16.06 | Some_Person | In recovery mode. I'm working on fixing it because it wasn't booting properly |
| 20:16.30 | Some_Person | I have it chrooted to the drive, and I accidentally just wiped /boot |
| 20:16.39 | jhutchins | Some_Person: (re)install the kernel and grub2 packages. |
| 20:16.41 | twanny796 | Warp4, ok, but I cannot apt-get install anything!! |
| 20:16.49 | Some_Person | jhutchins: How do I do that? |
| 20:16.56 | Warp4 | twanny796, use the standard debian repos then |
| 20:16.59 | jhutchins | twanny796: Which release? |
| 20:17.08 | jhutchins | Some_Person: Using aptitude or apt-get. |
| 20:17.09 | Warp4 | twanny796, i can email you my deb 7.2 apt sources listing? |
| 20:17.18 | twanny796 | Warp4, 7.1 |
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| 20:18.31 | Some_Person | I suppose first I need to determine what kernel packages I have installed |
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| 20:20.19 | pengunix | So I just installed the sudo package. Does this also block the root login (which would be intended)? Or are additional steps necessary right afterwards? Of course, if root user is blocked by package, a sudoer user should be added, otherwise one would be locked out, wouldn't one? |
| 20:21.06 | Some_Person | doesn't help that I haven't updated this thing in forever |
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| 20:31.20 | LtL | pengunix: no sudo does not block root login |
| 20:31.35 | LtL | pengunix: test and find out |
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| 20:34.43 | Nik05 | pengunix: passwd -l |
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| 20:37.15 | LtL | Nik05: i don't think he wants root's password locked, maybe i misunderstood |
| 20:37.16 | Nik05 | pengunix: and dont forget to give a user sudo rights... |
| 20:37.26 | Nik05 | Does this also block the root login (which would be intended)? |
| 20:37.32 | Nik05 | i guess thats intended? |
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| 20:37.57 | Warp4 | block the root login??? |
| 20:38.01 | Nik05 | ;p |
| 20:38.09 | Nik05 | thats normal on ubuntu i think.. |
| 20:38.14 | Warp4 | it is |
| 20:38.16 | LtL | Nik05: i'm not sure how to interpret -that- :) |
| 20:38.29 | LtL | Nik05: yeah it is normal on 'buntu |
| 20:38.34 | Warp4 | ubuntu "blocks" the root login by not giving it a password, IIRC |
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| 20:38.53 | Jonuz | Is www-data "chrooted" user or user without shell and home directory? |
| 20:38.59 | LtL | Warp4: which can be changed back to 'normal' |
| 20:39.01 | abrotman | that's different than locking an account |
| 20:39.03 | bvs | Warp4, you mean giving it a random password |
| 20:39.24 | Jonuz | And what about nobody user? |
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| 20:39.54 | abrotman | Jonuz: you can easily look in your passwd file and check |
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| 20:40.57 | jhutchins | twanny796: Sorry, distracted by real life. |
| 20:41.03 | Nik05 | Warp4: i think they also lock the account |
| 20:41.06 | jhutchins | !tel twanny796 about wheezy sources.list |
| 20:41.14 | abrotman | try again :) |
| 20:41.29 | Warp4 | Nik05, i just reset root's password on U'untu and it works |
| 20:41.31 | jhutchins | !tell twanny796 about wheezy sources.list |
| 20:41.40 | Warp4 | jhutchins, sent him mine :) |
| 20:41.50 | jhutchins | Warp4: He ought to be all set then. |
| 20:42.02 | Warp4 | jhutchins, yep, even upgraded him to 7.2 :) |
| 20:42.04 | abrotman | oh jeez |
| 20:42.39 | Warp4 | jhutchins, (granted mine also has the MariaDB repo in it, too) |
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| 20:53.34 | Kobra | hey, in Sid, there's dependancy issues with g++ |
| 20:53.40 | Kobra | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:58.19 | Nexuist | hey guys. how would I get a script to run on network connect? |
| 20:58.33 | Nexuist | i've tried /etc/network/if-up.d but it doesn't run for some reason |
| 20:58.39 | Nexuist | it is marked as executable |
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| 20:58.56 | jhutchins | Kobra: Yup. That's sid. |
| 20:59.12 | Kobra | lol, was just letting you know |
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| 21:02.03 | Some_Person | I need to figure out how to fix this on my VPS: http://i.imgur.com/3v3youb.png |
| 21:02.10 | Some_Person | (that's what it does when it tries to boot) |
| 21:02.31 | nkuttler | Some_Person: that looks like a grub error? |
| 21:02.35 | Some_Person | Indeed |
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| 21:02.50 | nkuttler | Some_Person: um, boot with your installer cd and reinstall grub? |
| 21:03.15 | Some_Person | I've been trying to do that (can't boot to the installer, but my VPS provider has a CentOS recovery environment I can boot) |
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| 21:03.46 | nkuttler | Some_Person: then you can probably still chroot into your install |
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| 21:03.58 | Some_Person | When I press a key to continue, GRUB shows only one entry called "BOOT", with these commands: http://i.imgur.com/CE3PLfS.png |
| 21:04.02 | Some_Person | nkuttler: Indeed I can |
| 21:04.20 | nkuttler | Some_Person: well that looks good |
| 21:04.35 | Some_Person | I'm assuming the second one produces the file not found error |
| 21:04.53 | Some_Person | even though there is definitely a /boot/grub/grub.cfg file on there |
| 21:05.05 | Dudytz | hi all! I build a package from source (gnucash) and make the configure, make and make install ... the packages works, but why I don't see the icon shortcut in debian menu? I see only if I install the official binary package |
| 21:05.30 | nkuttler | Some_Person: fwiw, you could probably boot manually by fixing the paths, but that's non-trivial |
| 21:05.56 | nkuttler | Some_Person: with "e" you can edit the entry, i think error 15 means incorrect device |
| 21:05.56 | Some_Person | I don't see where there's an incorrect path though |
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| 21:14.51 | Some_Person | Hang on, I just noticed something. This GRUB prompt is from GRUB 0.97. I thought I had GRUB2 installed |
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| 21:15.49 | Some_Person | I think that explains things |
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| 21:15.57 | Some_Person | but how to fix it...? |
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| 21:18.20 | Nik05 | Some_Person: grub-pc should install the right grub |
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| 21:19.26 | Nik05 | oh vps |
| 21:19.35 | petn-randall | kunwon1: no further output? |
| 21:19.46 | petn-randall | how much RAM does that machine have? |
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| 21:27.11 | jhutchins | Some_Person: Try to chroot. You should be able to run aptitude and (re)install what you need. |
| 21:27.18 | pengunix | When adding a new user using command useradd <username>, one cannot also specify a password / hash in this command. |
| 21:27.21 | pengunix | So for a very short time (there is no short time in computing), the newly created user is passwordless, could someone use the gap and log as that user? |
| 21:27.29 | pengunix | *log in |
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| 21:27.32 | Some_Person | jhutchins: I've been doing that, but nothing's been fixing it |
| 21:27.46 | foureyes779 | any Mac users in herre today ? |
| 21:27.48 | pengunix | Or can't a passwordless user be used for logging in? |
| 21:27.50 | jhutchins | pengunix: No, the account is locked by default. |
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| 21:28.04 | pengunix | jhutchins: so it is unlocked when setting a password using the passwd <user> command, right? |
| 21:28.15 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 21:28.15 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. Also works for EFI! |
| 21:28.27 | pengunix | jhutchins: just out of curiosity...: Can it be also unlocked directly without using passwd / setting a pssword? |
| 21:28.51 | suser1 | we saved a Cisco WCS that way |
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| 21:28.54 | jhutchins | With the exception that before you can run update-grub you have to run aptitude install grub2 linux-image-<arch> |
| 21:29.08 | jhutchins | pengunix: I believe it can. |
| 21:29.23 | jhutchins | pengunix: Depending on the password restrictions that have been set. |
| 21:29.55 | jhutchins | pengunix: Yes, it is locked by using a special character in the password field. |
| 21:29.59 | pengunix | jhutchins: so technically (not recommended) there can be users without any password. So when one logs in with that username, is the person asked for a password at all or does (s)he still have to provide a blank password line? |
| 21:30.07 | pengunix | jhutchins: what kind of character? |
| 21:30.20 | jhutchins | pengunix: iirc you can lock and unlock the user without changing the password. |
| 21:30.21 | pengunix | jhutchins: so that special character cannot be used as a password, right? |
| 21:31.02 | jhutchins | pengunix: Try this: create an account, then look at the entry for that account in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow. Set a password, look again. Lock it, look again. |
| 21:31.13 | jhutchins | pengunix: Also man shodow, man passwd, man pam. |
| 21:31.24 | Some_Person | Well damn. My problem this whole time is that it's booting to the wrong device |
| 21:31.57 | Some_Person | Not sure how to permanently fix this though |
| 21:32.35 | pengunix | jhutchins: thank you for this excellent explanation :) |
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| 21:33.15 | Some_Person | It's trying to boot from some floppy disk? |
| 21:33.26 | jhutchins | pengunix: For the "change on first login, use the chage command to set the password as expired. (Look up linux change password on first login on google for details.) |
| 21:33.41 | pengunix | jhutchins: yes |
| 21:34.12 | pengunix | jhutchins: when root password is expired, one cannot login as root, right? only sudo group user should login, so direct root login should be disabled. |
| 21:34.43 | jhutchins | pengunix: Behavior when expired vs. locked is different. |
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| 21:35.08 | pengunix | jhutchins: does passwd -l root (issued as root) prevent direct root logins? |
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| 21:35.26 | jhutchins | pengunix: You could try it and see. |
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| 21:36.09 | Mmike | anyone recently upgraded 32->64 bit? |
| 21:36.31 | jhutchins | Mmike: Generally you can't upgrade, yu reinstall. |
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| 21:37.22 | pengunix | jhutchins: no, can't login as root neither using the old password (no wonder, it is expired) nor with an empty password |
| 21:37.27 | pengunix | jhutchins: but this applies only to root, right? |
| 21:37.36 | pengunix | jhutchins: oh, -l means to lock then? |
| 21:38.50 | Mmike | jholden, yup, that might be the easiest thing to do |
| 21:39.04 | Mmike | erm, s/jholden/jhutchins |
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| 21:42.07 | jhutchins | pengunix: You can lock any account, yes. |
| 21:43.24 | Some_Person | Yeah, it's booting to /dev/fd0 instead of the hard drive |
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| 21:43.44 | Some_Person | which has a copy of GRUB legacy on it which loads the nonexistant /boot/grub/grub.conf as its config file |
| 21:43.49 | Some_Person | hence file not found |
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| 21:43.58 | bezaban | is locking the root account perfectly fine on debian? on some work systems I usually set it to a long password with the configuration management system |
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| 21:44.58 | Some_Person | So how can I make this file load grub2, or should I just install grub1 and symlink grub.conf to menu.lst? |
| 21:46.54 | jhutchins | bezaban: Yes, but do make sure you have sudo working first. |
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| 21:47.46 | jhutchins | Some_Person: Which device gets tried first is controlled by the bios. |
| 21:47.56 | jhutchins | Some_Person: Make sure you have a valid grub on the HD. |
| 21:48.21 | Some_Person | jhutchins: GRUB2 is installed on the HD, and I can boot it by pressing F12 and manually choosing to boot to the HD |
| 21:48.39 | Some_Person | There doesn't seem to be any way to tell this thing what device to boot to by default |
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| 21:49.14 | jhutchins | Some_Person: There should be a way in the bios to set the default - they vary by machine though. |
| 21:49.23 | Some_Person | It's a VPS |
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| 21:50.37 | Mattx | hey guys |
| 21:50.43 | jhutchins | Some_Person: Meaning you don't have access to the BIOS settings? I know our VMware has the option to specify boot order. |
| 21:50.59 | Some_Person | This uses QEMU. I can't find any way to get to the settings |
| 21:51.16 | Mattx | I was installing the desktop integration package of OpenOffice, but aptitude returned an error since I had libreoffice installed |
| 21:51.22 | jhutchins | Some_Person: Disable the FD? |
| 21:51.24 | Mattx | now I'm trying to remove libreoffice, which results in this error: |
| 21:51.30 | Mattx | E: The package openoffice-debian-menus needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
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| 21:52.05 | jhutchins | Mattx: Which release are you on? |
| 21:52.22 | Mattx | (openoffice-debian-menus is the package that failed to install earlier) |
| 21:52.39 | Some_Person | jhutchins: I'd like to, but don't know how |
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| 21:53.28 | Mattx | jhutchins, debian stable |
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| 21:54.30 | jhutchins | Mattx: Using just the standard repos? |
| 21:54.35 | relipse | i'm getting a bunch of emails on eof them is: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 1248: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found <-- what does that mean? |
| 21:54.39 | Mattx | yep |
| 21:54.53 | pengunix | Why does sudo need to resolve the hostname? Why? |
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| 21:55.19 | jhutchins | pengunix: Because hostname is one of the criteria to allow/deny use. |
| 21:55.21 | Mattx | (jhutchins, but I downloaded OpenOffice from its webpage) |
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| 21:55.40 | jhutchins | Mattx: Have you tried aptitude -f install? |
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| 21:55.50 | Mattx | that's exactly what I'm running now |
| 21:56.14 | pengunix | jhutchins: and when sudo fails to resolve the hostname, it fails completely. |
| 21:56.17 | pengunix | jhutchins: alright, I have to fix the hostname |
| 21:56.33 | Mattx | same issue lol |
| 21:56.34 | pengunix | jhutchins: I thought those criterias are checked by PAM? |
| 21:56.37 | Mattx | I can't even run install -f |
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| 21:58.05 | Mattx | how do you "manually fix this package"? |
| 21:59.20 | Mattx | oh, done, running install -f now |
| 21:59.40 | Mattx | dpkg: error processing openoffice-debian-menus (--purge): |
| 21:59.40 | dpkg | mattx: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 21:59.40 | Mattx | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.40 | Mattx | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.41 | Mattx | lol |
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| 22:01.16 | jhutchins | Mattx: You will percieve why we do not generally recommend third-party packages herer. |
| 22:01.32 | Mattx | alright, I can understand you don't recommend it |
| 22:01.33 | Mattx | but! |
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| 22:01.49 | Mattx | how is that I ended with an "inconsistent state"? |
| 22:02.13 | Mattx | I can't reinstall openoffice-debian-menus because it crashes, and I can't remove it either |
| 22:02.14 | Mattx | wtf? |
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| 22:03.57 | jhutchins | Mattx: Yeah, that crash is what ends up with a niether-installed-nor-uninstalled state. |
| 22:04.43 | Mattx | doooone! |
| 22:05.22 | jhutchins | Mattx: ? |
| 22:05.38 | foureyes779 | how do i boot into a different kernel img ? |
| 22:05.40 | Mattx | I couldn't "remove" it but aptitude somehow let met "purge" it |
| 22:05.46 | Mattx | me* |
| 22:07.04 | jhutchins | foureyes779: Select it from the grub boot menu. |
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| 22:07.55 | foureyes779 | jhutchins: im using debianPowerPC. |
| 22:08.01 | Some_Person | Okay, I've added a grub.conf file that chainloads grub2. I guess it'll do for now |
| 22:08.07 | jhutchins | foureyes779: What bootloader? |
| 22:08.28 | foureyes779 | jhutchins: I blv it is called yaboot. |
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| 22:09.05 | jhutchins | foureyes779: yaboot docs then. There might be a special key or combination to see the menu. |
| 22:09.12 | foureyes779 | jhutchins: tnx |
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| 22:42.56 | relipse | Can someone help me, i'm getting a ton of emails like this: [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && find /var/lib/php5/ -type f -cmin +$(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime) -delete from Cron, i checked root's crontab -e and I don't see anything. Could it be a crontab on a diff user? |
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| 22:44.42 | Walex2 | relipse: 'cron.d/', 'cron.daily', a different users, ... |
| 22:45.22 | relipse | What do I check then Walex2? |
| 22:45.30 | relipse | how do i check other user's crontabs? |
| 22:45.37 | Walex2 | relipse: all of them, plus '/var/spool/cron/crontabs/' |
| 22:45.51 | MrMonkey31 | little question: when I swap the cd that's in my drive, at any time during normal operation should it still have nautilus be showing the label and even contents as reflecting the cd that was removed? |
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| 22:46.21 | Walex2 | relipse: like perhaps: 'find /etc/cron* /var/spool/cron* -type f | xargs egrep maxlifetime' |
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| 22:47.04 | Walex2 | MrMonkey31: as a rule you should unmount the ISO before removing it physically |
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| 22:47.27 | MrMonkey31 | Walex2: ah. thx |
| 22:47.55 | relipse | Walex2, can i just delete everything in cron.d ? |
| 22:48.25 | Walex2 | relipse: that could be very unwise. |
| 22:48.52 | Walex2 | relipse: when you reinstall/update package what you delete there would just reappear |
| 22:48.55 | relipse | walex2: well what am i supposed to do, i don't want all these emails |
| 22:49.05 | Walex2 | relipse: comment out the relevant line. |
| 22:49.16 | relipse | but it looks important |
| 22:49.24 | relipse | # Look for and purge old sessions every 30 minutes |
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| 22:49.32 | relipse | its in php5 file |
| 22:49.57 | Walex2 | relipse: so you want it to run but not send you any messages? |
| 22:50.09 | relipse | yes i think it needs to run it is php5 |
| 22:50.59 | relipse | i'm also getting this one: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 1248: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found |
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| 22:51.08 | Walex2 | relipse: then look at 'man 5 crontab' where it discusses 'MAILTO' |
| 22:51.19 | Walex2 | relipse: there is a way there to disable the emailing. |
| 22:51.22 | relipse | one sec, i want the emails ,but it is sending to the wrong email address |
| 22:51.31 | relipse | and i'm gettin ga bunch of mail return errors |
| 22:51.35 | relipse | on top of the crontab errors |
| 22:51.48 | Walex2 | relipse: then change the 'MAILTO' variable in the right CRON configuration files. |
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| 22:53.59 | relipse | ok thanks |
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| 22:54.23 | relipse | are cron errors logged anywhere? |
| 22:54.30 | relipse | that way i can check the logs if i want to |
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| 23:32.40 | TOC1 | Hello |
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| 23:33.00 | TOC1 | Is there any specialist about bash scripting here? |
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| 23:33.06 | Gregor2 | hi |
| 23:34.49 | Gregor2 | i want to install zsnes! but it says "zsnes: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 23:34.50 | Gregor2 | " But if i want to install that package libGL.so.1 i have to uninstall my graphical environment and other things WTF! |
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| 23:35.53 | zykotick9 | TOC1: #bash might be a good channel to ask |
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| 23:52.07 | nonconvergent | Hey, how much space do you think a webserver VM needs? |
| 23:52.37 | nonconvergent | I'm using debian as a base, so it'll be headless, so that'll cut down. |
| 23:52.55 | nonconvergent | I just need php, mysql, apache, and tomcat on it. Anything else is gravy. |
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| 23:53.56 | guest43242 | can anyone say how many mb/s his/her HD do before it get to 100% IOWait? |
| 23:54.13 | guest43242 | under normal operation |
| 23:54.29 | guest43242 | (i.e. not a big file transfer |
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