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| 00:25.21 | Gregor2 | what does this command? |
| 00:25.36 | Gregor2 | cd /usr/lib/ |
| 00:25.36 | Gregor2 | sudo ln -s /usr/lib32/mesa/libGL.so.1.2 libGL.so.1 |
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| 00:30.09 | yelow79 | ln -s creates a simlink |
| 00:30.32 | yelow79 | it's like making a shortcut |
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| 00:31.29 | mtn | Gregor2: man ln is usefull |
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| 00:33.17 | Gregor2 | ok |
| 00:33.24 | Gregor2 | it says zsnes: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 00:33.45 | Ynnaf | Hey, for adding this PPA https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers is "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers" good or what ? I'm really not familiar with it :( |
| 00:33.50 | Gregor2 | when i start to run zsnes! can you tell me how i can solve this? |
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| 00:33.58 | themill | Ynnaf: PPAs aren't for debian |
| 00:34.05 | Ynnaf | ho |
| 00:34.07 | Ynnaf | sorry x) |
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| 00:34.25 | ngc0202 | Do I need to make a partition for Linux before I run the install CD? |
| 00:34.31 | Ynnaf | (mint isn't very responsive well x) ) |
| 00:34.39 | ngc0202 | I want to have Windows on there too |
| 00:35.08 | yelow79 | Gregor2: you have the answer, you just need to create a simlink of libgl.so.1.2 to libgl.so.1 |
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| 00:35.20 | yelow79 | I also run zsnes and it works |
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| 00:35.58 | Gregor2 | on debian? |
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| 00:36.36 | themill | Gregor2: how did you install zsnes? |
| 00:37.00 | yelow79 | and yes Gregor2 on debian |
| 00:37.35 | Gregor2 | i installed it with the package manager@ |
| 00:38.08 | Gregor2 | but i have the file libGL.so.1 bmultiple times! |
| 00:39.01 | yelow79 | the way I found out how to fix it was to google the error I got from zsnes |
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| 00:39.38 | Gregor2 | and i have to find libGL.so.1.2 and make this link to libGL.so.1 |
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| 00:39.41 | Gregor2 | ? |
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| 00:40.44 | yelow79 | it should be in the same directory |
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| 00:42.59 | Gregor2 | ah got it to work! |
| 00:43.13 | Gregor2 | and do i have to do this again after reboot? |
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| 00:44.46 | yelow79 | no it's permanent |
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| 00:52.40 | Gregor2 | another question |
| 00:53.00 | Gregor2 | i have two panels on buttom of my gnome environment |
| 00:53.33 | Gregor2 | each time i start something in fullscreen like a game or zsnes! they are switched |
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| 00:57.22 | Gregor2 | i have 11337 games! :) |
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| 00:58.31 | Gregor2 | who is the |
| 00:58.35 | Gregor2 | real root? |
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| 01:01.26 | ngc0202 | What's with all this CD-1 CD-2 blah |
| 01:02.23 | ngc0202 | Are there parts to the CD or something? |
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| 01:03.15 | dondelelcaro | ngc0202: no, they're multiple CDs |
| 01:03.23 | ngc0202 | What's the difference? |
| 01:03.34 | dondelelcaro | ngc0202: All of Debian is too big for a single CD, but you only need the first one |
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| 01:12.31 | ngc0202 | dondelelcaro: Thanks |
| 01:12.39 | pero | does jessie come with xfce now? |
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| 01:15.52 | Waxhead | pero: I am running jessie with xfce no problem. |
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| 01:16.26 | pero | that's not really what i asked - is xfce default? |
| 01:18.21 | zykotick9 | pero: jessie's final installer, is a long way off... your question doesn't make a lot of sense IMO. |
| 01:18.35 | pero | ahh k |
| 01:19.08 | zykotick9 | pero: but i have heard a little bird say, xfce might be the default... |
| 01:19.59 | pero | hmmm - jessie's a daily though? is it xfce by default now? |
| 01:19.59 | zykotick9 | !gksudo |
| 01:19.59 | dpkg | gksu is a graphical interface for running X apps as another user such as root. «aptitude install gksu». If you have set your machine up with sudo to allow you to run any command you want, then you can make gksu use "sudo" mode all the time by running "gconftool-2 -t bool -s /apps/gksu/sudo-mode 1". Also ask me about <sux>. |
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| 01:20.51 | _root_ | any take on this http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?11,245107 |
| 01:21.23 | zykotick9 | _root_: keep ubuntu issues in #ubuntu |
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| 01:22.08 | zykotick9 | _root_: AND don't crosspost... |
| 01:22.47 | Waxhead | pero: do you mind me asking why you are so curious if xfce is the default? Does it really matter? You can just install whatever you like. |
| 01:23.22 | pero | it's a question. |
| 01:23.27 | yelow79 | I personally always install the mininal and only install what I want and what I will use |
| 01:23.49 | Waxhead | pero: yes I realize that it is a question. I am just curious to why that's all. |
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| 01:24.55 | pero | can i ask you why you're asking me that? |
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| 01:25.45 | Waxhead | pero: Sure, I think you might not want to use debian if xfce is not the default. That is why I am asking :) |
| 01:26.32 | pero | correct |
| 01:26.40 | phy1729 | people install the desktop task? |
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| 01:27.11 | Waxhead | pero: Ok. Now for my next question. Why is it so important that xfce is the default or not. You can pick and choose. Is that not enough? |
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| 01:27.18 | rsch | phy1729:I do, when it's not my computer |
| 01:27.18 | HSaka | Hello, I've tried to mount my raid 5 and it said I had to specify what filesystem it is. I've tried -t ext 3 and 4. But I'm getting wrong fstype, bad option... |
| 01:27.29 | phy1729 | (joking) but if you care about your DW/WM just ignore the task and install your own packages |
| 01:28.00 | pero | if gnome is going to be deprecated in favour of xfce any time now, why would i install a release today? |
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| 01:28.13 | Waxhead | HSaka: did you create a filesystem on your raid after you created it ? |
| 01:28.21 | rsch | phy1729: That's what I do, but for people that don't care, I go with the recommended config |
| 01:28.44 | HSaka | Waxhead, No. I don't think so |
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| 01:28.59 | HSaka | I used xfsprogs, I heard It should be doing that automaticly |
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| 01:29.54 | Waxhead | HSaka: when you made your raid with mdadm --create .etc...etc... you only made a block device. E.g. you created a "single harddisk" out of many so no filesystem is present on it. you have to create a filesystem that will "live" on you raid 5. |
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| 01:30.15 | Waxhead | HSaka: assuming of course that you did use mdadm :) |
| 01:30.18 | HSaka | Waxhead, ic. How can I do that? |
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| 01:30.26 | HSaka | Waxhead, Yes I used madam :) |
| 01:30.36 | Waxhead | HSaka: do you know the device name of your raid 5 ? |
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| 01:30.41 | HSaka | yeah |
| 01:30.56 | HSaka | It is /dev/md0 |
| 01:30.59 | Waxhead | HSaka: Ok so all you have to do is mkfs.ext4 /dev/md0 (if md0 is your filesystem) |
| 01:31.02 | Waxhead | ..err.. device |
| 01:31.14 | Waxhead | that will create a ext4 filesystem. there are many to choose from. |
| 01:31.33 | HSaka | ah |
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| 01:31.49 | HSaka | in the past, I did mkfs.xfs /dev/md0 |
| 01:32.09 | Waxhead | then you should have a xfs fileystem on your md0 device |
| 01:32.14 | Waxhead | mount -t xfs |
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| 01:32.43 | HSaka | Waxhead mount -t xfs /dev/md0 ? |
| 01:33.01 | Waxhead | HSaka: you need a target directory as well |
| 01:33.07 | HSaka | Yeah, I know that |
| 01:33.22 | Waxhead | Sure try that.... mount -t xfs /dev/md0 /targetdir |
| 01:33.38 | HSaka | Waxhead, I'm still getting the same message =/ |
| 01:33.55 | Waxhead | HSaka: do you have xfsutils installed ? |
| 01:34.18 | HSaka | I have apt-get install xfsprogs installed |
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| 01:34.55 | Waxhead | HSaka: I think that should do the trick.... it's been a while since I played with xfs |
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| 01:35.47 | HSaka | Still doesn't work.. I'm getting this http://pastebin.com/t9ZCjv3u |
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| 01:36.34 | Waxhead | HSaka: try mkfs.xfs /dev/md0 |
| 01:36.40 | Waxhead | e.g recreate the filesystem |
| 01:36.54 | Waxhead | (that will erase whatever is on that filesystem of course) |
| 01:37.36 | HSaka | http://pastebin.com/GThbr7RU |
| 01:38.14 | Waxhead | HSaka: and you still can't mount the filesystem ? |
| 01:38.42 | HSaka | yeah |
| 01:39.13 | HSaka | it says I have to specify filesystem type when I try to mount it. That's why I'm here in this IRC channel x) |
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| 01:40.26 | Slyder | Would someone be kind as to shed some light on MD5 or SHA for use with libpam-pwdfile. Kind of referenced here, but I'm not sure what they mean by "You just need to generate the passwords with a different tool" --> http://serverfault.com/questions/450214/vsftpd-will-not-accept-passwords-encrypted-with-md5 |
| 01:42.09 | Waxhead | HSaka: Is your xfs module loaded? I think lsmod | grep xfs would tell you that. |
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| 01:42.34 | HSaka | Waxhead: it sayd xfs 590943 0 |
| 01:42.47 | Waxhead | ok and what does dmesg | tail say ? |
| 01:43.51 | HSaka | Waxhead, this http://pastebin.com/n9w698mN |
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| 01:45.15 | Waxhead | HSaka: then sorry pal, you have to try your luck with someone else. Good luck! |
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| 01:45.31 | HSaka | Waxhead, could you tell me what is wrong x)? |
| 01:45.45 | reavengrey | your computer has a problem |
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| 01:47.20 | anon9002 | Anyone knows how to use apt to install package as dependency? (something like Gentoo's --oneshot or Arch's --asdeps) |
| 01:47.28 | Waxhead | HSaka: Sorry. Not sure - try googling the error message you got in dmesg |
| 01:47.49 | HSaka | Waxhead, working on it right now |
| 01:47.59 | HSaka | Waxhead, thank you so much for helping :) |
| 01:48.20 | Waxhead | HSaka: No problem. Best of luck to you Sir! |
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| 01:49.53 | zykotick9 | anon9002: any chance of re-wording your question? apt installs dependencies by default? what are you trying to do exactly? (i'm not familiar with gentoo/arch, so no idea what that means - though i do remember using oneshot years ago, but not sure what it does - when i did use gentoo...) |
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| 01:50.18 | yelow79 | I'm in need of some help |
| 01:50.27 | yelow79 | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=109460 <----- there's my question |
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| 01:51.20 | Tylertwo | If I'm connecting to a a wifi network that uses WEP as opposed to WPA (if I understand correctly) would I need to change the network interfaces file to reflect this? Maybe change the line from 'add wpa-psk <pass>' to 'add wep-psk <pass>' or something? |
| 01:51.28 | anon9002 | When you install something using --oneshot or --asdeps, the package is treated as if it were installed automatically as a dependency of something else. |
| 01:51.53 | anon9002 | So when you run apt-get autoremove, for example, it will be uninstalled. |
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| 01:52.13 | reavengrey | holddd up lemme swat dis fly |
| 01:52.58 | anon9002 | zykotick9: I'm wondering if apt has something similar. |
| 01:55.57 | zykotick9 | Tylertwo: fyi, wep has been "broken" since 1999... just sayin' |
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| 01:59.04 | zykotick9 | anon9002: you need to set the packages as "manually" installed. see "/msg dpkg remove rhythmbox" for some tips... best of luck. |
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| 02:00.50 | anon9002 | zykotick9: Thanks! |
| 02:00.51 | zykotick9 | anon9002: actually, upon rereading your question - seem you want the opposite? i have no clue... |
| 02:00.55 | anon9002 | yep |
| 02:01.24 | anon9002 | but I think I can adjust the command to unmark the package instead of marking it. |
| 02:01.51 | rsch | if you select the package in aptitude m/M will change it form manual to automatick ant the other way |
| 02:01.58 | rsch | from* |
| 02:02.25 | reavengrey | Listen, I will destroy you, your wife, your possessions, your life, and everything you have come to know, anon9002. |
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| 02:03.11 | anon9002 | ? |
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| 02:04.35 | zykotick9 | anon9002: seems like an /ignore situation ;) |
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| 02:06.26 | pencilandpaper | goodnight and God Bless peoples. |
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| 02:07.49 | rsch | anon9002:so, you need this in a script or is the solution in curses good enough? |
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| 02:10.40 | anon9002 | The curses solution is fine. I'm only doing this for a few packages. |
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| 02:25.25 | phantomcircuit | [94400.853201] deluged[5520]: segfault at 10272f2ab ip 00007f31698ddf9e sp 00007fffe66ca428 error 4 in libz.so.1.2.7[7f31698db000+16000] |
| 02:25.34 | phantomcircuit | that's on a wheezy box with everything up to date |
| 02:26.12 | dizzylizzy | how can I get a list of packages I've manually pinned/held |
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| 02:26.26 | phantomcircuit | EINTR |
| 02:26.27 | phantomcircuit | nvm |
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| 02:44.03 | ones | HIHI |
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| 03:13.01 | dizzylizzy | and now I'm ripping gnome out of my system |
| 03:13.03 | dizzylizzy | this'll be a fun night |
| 03:13.11 | dizzylizzy | :) |
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| 03:14.25 | phy1729 | dizzylizzy: just re install :p |
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| 03:16.09 | Tramp | !remove gnome |
| 03:16.10 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
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| 03:16.53 | rryoumaa | does wheezy include image classification programs? |
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| 03:25.05 | dizzylizzy | I can't remember how to officially change the default display manager |
| 03:25.08 | dizzylizzy | any tips? |
| 03:25.12 | dizzylizzy | is it in a dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 03:25.48 | dizzylizzy | oops, found the answer, nevermind |
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| 03:28.41 | eblip | how do i run a file i have just unpacked |
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| 03:28.59 | eblip | the messages say run filex |
| 03:29.14 | eblip | it isnt a bash file |
| 03:29.54 | mr_asdf | hello all, I am having a spot of trouble with an xorg.conf file after installing the drivers for my Radeon graphics card. Whenever I insert a section for the 'virtual' size, X crashes on startup. I am following the instructions on the wiki from here: https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#Configuration |
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| 03:30.42 | Tramp | eblip: (1) which messages (2) what does file filex say? |
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| 03:31.38 | eblip | i got it from here..under linux installation instructions |
| 03:31.42 | eblip | https://github.com/ppcoin/ppcoin/wiki/Installation |
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| 03:34.25 | Tramp | so its a binary. So running it should, aeh, run it, provided it's for your architecture |
| 03:34.50 | eblip | the command run is not knows |
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| 03:35.52 | Tramp | not in your PATH. Add directory to PATH or run, like they say (e.g. ./file or som/dir/file) |
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| 03:36.19 | eblip | ah ok ill try it thanks tramp |
| 03:36.30 | Tramp | welcome |
| 03:36.55 | ese | hello hopw can i ulimit globaly to 5 process per user in one determinated user group? |
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| 03:38.22 | MouseTheLuckyDog | Does anyone know what happened to ppa.ko? |
| 03:38.24 | ese | i vahe @somegroup hard nproc 5 |
| 03:38.25 | ese | @somegroup soft nproc 5 |
| 03:38.25 | ese | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:38.25 | ese | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:38.33 | eblip | thanks Tramp its working |
| 03:38.39 | MouseTheLuckyDog | In the 3.11 kernal? |
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| 03:38.50 | ese | sorry for the flood |
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| 03:45.05 | rsch | MouseTheLuckyDog: better ask in #ubuntu |
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| 03:46.14 | MouseTheLuckyDog | I have the debian 3.11-2-amd64 kernel installed but no ppa.ko module with that. Further apt-file find can' |
| 03:46.28 | MouseTheLuckyDog | t find it. Any ideas why? |
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| 03:46.41 | MouseTheLuckyDog | rsch: I'm not using ubuntu. |
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| 03:54.52 | intx | how do I purge all packages starting with a prefix (e.g. dovecot-*) |
| 03:54.58 | intx | and thanks :) |
| 03:55.53 | dondelelcaro | intx: aptitude purge '^dovecot-' |
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| 03:56.35 | intx | thanks dondelelcaro |
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| 03:57.55 | dondelelcaro | intx: np; hopefully that works for you |
| 03:58.39 | r00tintheb0x | Anyone know of a good web hosting channel? |
| 03:59.04 | r00tintheb0x | I'm trying to get my virtualmin/postfix setup to jive but I've been forced into using CentOS.. :-\ |
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| 04:01.49 | tripelb | I have been an ubuntu user but I use gnome-classic because I dont like Unity. I am thinking of switching. My computer is a 2002 model dell with a gig of ram, now running 12.04. |
| 04:02.13 | PryMar56 | wheezy server: why does mysql start after apache2? can I start it some other way? |
| 04:02.17 | zykotick9 | tripelb: is there a question there? |
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| 04:03.33 | PryMar56 | in /etc/rc2.d I see the start order |
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| 04:04.35 | dizzylizzy | sweet! I'm down from 189 to 149 dependency problems |
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| 04:05.59 | tripelb | zykotick9, hi again. Umm, how do I decide which is best. (Turns out the #ubuntu has been very important to me. I rem3ember linux before I found tht and the attitude was so think it could be cut with a knife. I couldnt get into it at all or learn. It was all a challenge. |
| 04:06.57 | tripelb | I was challenged on reddit that fedora or debian was better than ubuntu because of some reason. also .. you saw my question in #ubuntu. |
| 04:07.17 | zykotick9 | tripelb: keep in mind debian IS NOT UBUNTU! they are VERY different... |
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| 04:08.25 | vs73nx | yes but ubuntu IS DEBIAN because it is based off it |
| 04:08.41 | zykotick9 | vs73nx: WRONG |
| 04:08.43 | zykotick9 | !ubuntu |
| 04:08.43 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 04:08.56 | vs73nx | that is what i meant |
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| 04:10.31 | tripelb | zykotick9, I would like to find out how they are different. I just want something that works. Even though I used to be a programmer in the wayback, I have become aware that LINUX IS SO VERY VERY BIG that it is a lifetime project. (I even read "Just forFun:) |
| 04:10.32 | zykotick9 | tripelb: if you are looking for a stable/well tested distro - debian is MILES ahead of ubuntu... if you are looking for new packages... stick with ubuntu. try "/msg dpkg sns" and see if you are affected. |
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| 04:11.41 | tripelb | zykotick9, stable is my interest. Did you see my repeated question/problem in #ubuntu, I repeated my question in case you didnt see it. |
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| 04:12.27 | zykotick9 | tripelb: with debian (stable) things don't break (unless YOU break them) |
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| 04:12.44 | zykotick9 | tripelb: with debian testing/sid - all bets are off... |
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| 04:13.40 | zykotick9 | tripelb: stability (non-debian meaning of the word) is what brought me to debian (from ubuntu), i haven't been disappointed ;) |
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| 04:17.02 | zykotick9 | tripelb: fyi, the support in #debian is also WAY better then in #u... there are some big BIG nerds in here (and on OFTC even bigger) |
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| 04:17.59 | tripelb | great. Is there an lts version of debian? or do I just pick the latest. |
| 04:18.32 | tripelb | FYI this is what I posted in #ubuntu---- > here's a question. I have had my ubuntu 12.04 crap out and have to be rebooted several times. It does give me a window suggesting it has had some major error and asks me to do this. I started ubuntu with 6.04 and never have had this problem before. Also cheese will not see the same webcam I used before (though it does sho up in lsusb). Is there some ay I can see if something is broken. I dot even |
| 04:18.33 | tripelb | know how to ask. If it was windows I would want to "reinstall" Also note I am using gnome-classic. |
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| 04:19.14 | zykotick9 | tripelb: no debian LTS... i'd strongly suggesting using netinst (text install) selecting only the "base" then using apt-get/aptitude to install what you actually want/use. no cruft! |
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| 04:20.12 | tripelb | what I do on the internet is mainly web and irc. I will be doing some torrent if I get a better connection - right now I am fine with 2G frommy phone (I ran out of 3G data, unlimited drops after 2.5G used) |
| 04:20.19 | phy1729 | tripelb: debian releases typically are latest for about two years so no lts needed :p |
| 04:20.21 | dizzylizzy | hooray! i found the magic command! aptitude remove libreoffice-filter-mobiledev libreoffice-common+ libreoffice-core+ libreoffice+ libreoffice-math+ python-uno unoconv |
| 04:20.24 | dizzylizzy | i'm getting better at this |
| 04:21.31 | tripelb | zykotick9, that's different from ubuntu. I think I am going to go out there and learn. Picking one if just the first step. What gui do you use.. did you say you use gnome? |
| 04:21.54 | zykotick9 | tripelb: just to add to what phy1729 just explained, debian supports "old stable" for one year after the current stable is released - so you can expect close to 3 years |
| 04:22.00 | tripelb | dizzylizzy, wow that would make me dizzy too. What doesthat do anyway? |
| 04:22.02 | phy1729 | tripelb: is this for a server? |
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| 04:22.52 | tripelb | phy1729, nope. just my computer. I use torrents to avoid late charges on library dvd's. twice burned twice shy. |
| 04:22.55 | zykotick9 | tripelb: i don't use gnome no (no DE on my boxes), i use a WM only. but that's just personal preference, you can use basically any DE you want... (no unity BTW) |
| 04:23.04 | dizzylizzy | tripelb, it removes a series of packages, but unfortunately the un-upgraded versions of the packages with a + after them DEPEND on some of those packages, so I'm forcing it to upgrade those packages while simultaneously removing the other ones. :-/ for some reason it couldn't sort this out itself |
| 04:23.12 | dizzylizzy | I give way too much credit to aptitude |
| 04:23.22 | tripelb | zykotick9, what is a WM and a DE ? meaning |
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| 04:23.55 | zykotick9 | tripelb: i use awesome... and a lot of tmux and console apps myself... but you can use whatever YOU like. |
| 04:24.00 | tripelb | dizzylizzy, so sudo apt update didnt work. |
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| 04:24.20 | tripelb | zykotick9, this is a big WOOSH for me. |
| 04:24.24 | dizzylizzy | no, aptitude safe-upgrade did not do the trick |
| 04:25.13 | phy1729 | tripelb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/18078/what-is-the-difference-between-a-desktop-environment-and-a-window-manager |
| 04:25.46 | tripelb | ooo, now that I am already on 2G data I can torrent anything all moth. (went over my limit watchingsome program about bulletproof life that went on for 4 hours while I did housework.) |
| 04:26.50 | tripelb | zykotick9, are you running both systems on separate computers? (U and Debian) |
| 04:27.13 | tripelb | goes off to look at how to torrent debian |
| 04:27.30 | zykotick9 | tripelb: no, i haven't used ubuntu since the day before debian's squeeze was released, that's a couple of years ago now |
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| 04:28.13 | zykotick9 | tripelb: netinst doesn't even really need a torrent. fyi there is a 32/64bit netinst so it can be used on either arch |
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| 04:29.08 | zykotick9 | tripelb: if you want gnome, then just download either cd1 or dvd1 (you DON'T need all of them, that's for machines without network) |
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| 04:30.03 | zykotick9 | tripelb: ahhh, do you need wireless during install? |
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| 04:34.20 | tripelb | I am sure I do. or afterwards. I installed ubuntu from the disk and updated it using the telephone hotspot wireless. |
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| 04:35.05 | tripelb | Oh I guess I didnt use it during install. Do I need to? Is not a wuestion for me but a question for you who knows. |
| 04:35.13 | zykotick9 | !tell tripelb about firmware image |
| 04:35.45 | tripelb | tripelb is a woman with big ears. Listens. |
| 04:37.16 | zykotick9 | tripelb: debian doesn't include non-free firmware, like ubuntu... which can cause issue for a lot of wireless cards. you can typically install them after (if you have an ethernet connection as well), but if you need wireless during install, look into those unoffical images (i've never used them myself, didn't need to, as i have ethernet) |
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| 04:38.40 | tripelb | ummm,. I have a wireless I bought and ubuntu installed it automagically. are you telling me it will be an issue? Oh no! |
| 04:38.48 | tripelb | It is usb. |
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| 04:39.41 | zykotick9 | tripelb: this is one BIG difference between debian and ubuntu - debian can be a "free as in freedom" distro, and tries to be, by default... |
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| 04:40.15 | zykotick9 | tripelb: some wireless will work fine with debian BTW - depends on the chipset involved |
| 04:40.15 | wols | tripelb: depends on the chip inside that usb device |
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| 04:40.59 | tripelb | it is this. Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter |
| 04:41.34 | tripelb | $16 on Amazon, detachable antenna. |
| 04:41.56 | dvs | triplelb: You need the firmware ISO |
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| 04:45.30 | tripelb | I will have to take this up later. My mouse shoulder is screaming. |
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| 04:45.33 | tripelb | nite |
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| 04:48.31 | MrMonkey31 | *cries* I wound up with two ext3 partitions with the same UUID. should I proceed to use gparted to change the UUID of the one I don't intend to ever boot? |
| 04:48.54 | zykotick9 | rootlock |
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| 04:53.11 | jaami | i ned to recover grub2, what tool is best to make a bootable usb to recover grub2? |
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| 04:55.11 | MouseTheLuckyDog | I want to download the source for linux-image-3.11-2-amd64, but when I try apt-get changes it to "linux" then gets 3.11-8 . How do I get the source for what I'm asking for? |
| 04:56.01 | jaami | anybody know how to recover grub2 , plz let me know. |
| 04:57.06 | rsch | jaami: i use slax, because it's already at hand where I work |
| 04:57.39 | rsch | MouseTheLuckyDog: what iis the command ure trying? |
| 04:58.15 | MouseTheLuckyDog | apt-get source linux-image-3.11-2-amd64 |
| 04:59.06 | ChipButty | jaami: check out supergrub supergrubdisk.org |
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| 04:59.52 | rsch | MouseTheLuckyDog: you want what version? |
| 04:59.59 | Rusty1 | with apologies to nobody, maybe this will help jaami https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing |
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| 05:05.03 | jaami | thanks |
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| 05:08.37 | ese | ps aux shows al proccess from al users, is there a way i can show only the proccess from the user only? |
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| 05:08.48 | ese | ps aux shows all proccess from all users, is there a way i can show only the proccess from the user only? |
| 05:09.32 | themill | ese: stop asking for all processes? |
| 05:10.14 | ese | yes, but i have several users and i want when some user use ps aux to show only his proccess, if possible?= |
| 05:10.21 | rsch | ese: man ps should explain |
| 05:10.44 | themill | ese: you are explicitly asking for the processes of all users. Don't |
| 05:11.27 | ese | i know how to use ps, i need not to show system process to be shown |
| 05:11.28 | rsch | ese: ps ux will show the processes of a user |
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| 05:12.22 | ese | since i have no control over the user, he may or may not use ps aux, when he does i need for ps not to show al process who dont belong to him |
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| 05:12.44 | ese | is this possible? |
| 05:12.52 | rsch | you want to hide the processes? |
| 05:13.04 | ese | yes |
| 05:13.16 | ese | the process he dont own |
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| 05:14.32 | rsch | never heard of a feature like this, usually mean you're trying to solve the wrong problem? |
| 05:14.39 | Rusty1 | ps -aux|grep username |
| 05:14.57 | rsch | the solution is tu put every user inside it's own container of some sort |
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| 05:16.04 | rsch | you need to use the kernel namespaces to give each user it's own /proc |
| 05:16.47 | ese | i thinbk i need grsecurity |
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| 05:20.00 | rsch | the kernel developers don't support out of tree patches, so we can't also |
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| 05:20.44 | rsch | is it in the kernel? |
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| 05:24.01 | zykotick9 | Rusty1: fyi it's "ps aux". with the - you should see "warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'?" at the top. |
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| 05:27.11 | Rusty1 | zykotick9: ps -aux works fine here , |
| 05:27.36 | zykotick9 | Rusty1: it's still wrong - thus the warning... |
| 05:27.57 | rsch | the grep get's rid of the warning |
| 05:28.16 | zykotick9 | rsch: good point, i didn't think of that |
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| 05:32.13 | Rusty1 | zykotick9: i see no warning, grep or not , user or root |
| 05:32.43 | jaami | i removed many important things by mistake, like gnome, java etc. is there a way to recover all missing or removed packages with update, upgrade? what i should do to recover all packages? |
| 05:34.15 | jaami | is there any thing in debian like rollback in sql? |
| 05:35.17 | rsch | jaami: did you had a customized setup or do want the default back? |
| 05:35.59 | jaami | i want the defult back because i cannot even use add remove programs |
| 05:36.12 | rsch | zykotick9: in my screen, the warning just flashed really quick when I run the command, only one time |
| 05:36.15 | peterrooney | jaami: not really. apt and friends believe whatever you say you want done is what you want done. looking at /var/log/dpkg.log may help refresh your memory. |
| 05:36.54 | rsch | jaami: install the gnome-desktop task, and it will pull the default for you |
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| 05:37.20 | jaami | task is also a package? |
| 05:37.21 | zykotick9 | rsch: every time i run "ps -aux" the first line is "warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'?" why Rusty1 can't see this - i have no explanation... |
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| 05:38.43 | rsch | task-gnome-desktop is the name you need |
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| 05:38.52 | rsch | for the package |
| 05:39.08 | jaami | thanks rsch |
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| 05:40.24 | rsch | np |
| 05:44.33 | Rusty1 | i do get that warning on a CentOs box , zykotick9 a ubuntu server as well, hmm |
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| 05:46.08 | peterrooney | both ps -u and ps -x require additional data on the command line. |
| 05:46.45 | zoite | zykotick9: You should use 'ps aux' |
| 05:47.08 | zykotick9 | zoite: thanks! that was the point i was trying to make to Rusty1 |
| 05:47.09 | jaami | peterrooney, a rollback is also needed sometime and its real important thing and perhaps missing in debian |
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| 05:47.45 | zoite | -aux means print all processes by user "x" |
| 05:47.53 | Rusty1 | apt-cache policy procps returns Installed: 1:3.3.8-2 |
| 05:48.22 | dizzylizzy | aaahhh there, I've narrowed all of the remaining 112 unresolved dependency issues to a known bug in libclutter and freaking perl |
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| 05:48.41 | dizzylizzy | i'll figure out the perl thing some other time... not sure why 5.14 and 5.18 can't both be installed, but whatever |
| 05:49.08 | themill | dizzylizzy: how would that work -- there's only one /usr/bin/perl |
| 05:49.20 | dizzylizzy | oh |
| 05:49.21 | dizzylizzy | I see |
| 05:49.24 | zoite | Rusty1: printing a warning is intended behavior, check 'man ps' for more info |
| 05:53.25 | Rusty1 | zoite: thanks , i havent read the ps man page since probably 1982 |
| 05:53.34 | zoite | you're welcome |
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| 05:55.27 | Rusty1 | this box has been in operation , with plenty of messing around, since maybe 1997 |
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| 06:33.16 | mrmoney2012 | general question, i have several machine i look after remotely, debian. Best practice is to keep them updated right, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" however it's really important that i never lose ssh access, by updating them and sometimes rebooting - do i risk cutting myself off, how to mitigate the risk? (will not have physical access). |
| 06:34.00 | mrmoney2012 | incidentally -i've been updating and restarting at will regularly for 3 months and they've always come back fine! |
| 06:34.42 | zoite | KVM |
| 06:34.46 | zykotick9 | mrmoney2012: ahhh, i'd think using "apt-get upgrade" would never require a restart - as that WON'T update the kernel... |
| 06:35.02 | themill | it might |
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| 06:35.26 | zoite | I would also suggest using aptitude as iirc it allows for better rollback |
| 06:36.00 | mrmoney2012 | ok... guess i still can't shake off windows thinking, i generally restart because i think - clean start ! not because machine asks me to (need to reprogram myself?) |
| 06:36.41 | zoite | You could also install ksplice.. |
| 06:36.55 | mrmoney2012 | so restarting machines more dangerous than updating ? (in general) |
| 06:36.58 | themill | mrmoney2012: some sort of out-of-band management or kvm can be handy, yes. Your hosting provider may well provide such a thing. The only time when a reboot is really required is when you've upgraded the kernel (and a reboot when you've upgraded the bootloader it's not a bad idea to test it out either) |
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| 06:37.38 | mrmoney2012 | are reboots every few months recommended / required at all ? |
| 06:37.58 | zoite | no |
| 06:38.03 | themill | there's a reasonable chance you'd have an updated kernel to reboot into within that timescale in any case |
| 06:38.45 | zoite | Reboots are recommended when they are necessary, not by a random time schedule |
| 06:38.46 | zykotick9 | themill: but don't you need dist-upgrade to get kernel updates? |
| 06:38.53 | mrmoney2012 | volte - ok thanks... |
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| 06:39.08 | mrmoney2012 | sorry . zolte |
| 06:39.13 | zoite | you're welcome |
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| 06:39.35 | mrmoney2012 | i guess if it ain't broke... |
| 06:39.55 | zoite | In my experience, rebooting is what makes it broke |
| 06:40.14 | zoite | At least in a work environment :) |
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| 06:40.22 | mrmoney2012 | ok. yes, i can see why you'd say that - updates less so i guess (and recommended) |
| 06:40.43 | themill | zykotick9: only if the kernel ABI changes and you're not using aptitude or a recent apt-get with --with-new-pkgs |
| 06:40.44 | mrmoney2012 | yes - this is a raspberry pi running raspbian off the back of a DSL connection at my Mum's house! |
| 06:41.16 | mrmoney2012 | hardly a "work" environ - but so useful to her as I can get onto the LAN and check stuff. brilliant little machine for this |
| 06:41.34 | themill | mrmoney2012: btw raspbian support is in #raspbian. We can't tell you anything about their security updates or other upgrade policies. |
| 06:41.47 | mrmoney2012 | themill: ok, didn't know that - thanks |
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| 06:42.28 | zykotick9 | themill: thanks - good to know. |
| 06:42.28 | mrmoney2012 | learned so much linux in the last 6 months doing this. love it - didn't realise how powerful the CLI was (particularly for remote stuff) |
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| 06:55.04 | PryMar56 | in wheezy, to get mysql to start before apache2, append `mysql` to the Required-Start line in apache2, then rerun update-rc.d for both |
| 06:55.18 | PryMar56 | thats how I solved it |
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| 07:01.50 | PryMar56 | anyone can confirm that wheezy has (in /etc/rc2.d) S08apache2 S09mysql ? |
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| 07:02.54 | themill | PryMar56: everyone will have different numbers |
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| 07:03.19 | PryMar56 | themill, ah yes - because of the insserv script |
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| 07:32.00 | michom | good morning |
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| 07:34.44 | michom | i have an old inspiron 9300 with debian jessy on it that shuts down by itself from time to time... i connect to it remotely as i dont usually have physical access to it... it's just when it became unreachable i ask someone to go power it up... current uptime is 6 days, it stayed once for 40 days almost... is there a way to check why it's shutting down on its own? |
| 07:36.07 | zoite | How do you know it's shutting down? |
| 07:36.19 | michom | few more details... i got it a new battery, same problem... i tested the battery and it lasts for an hour on average... removed the power on several occasions... nothing happened |
| 07:36.41 | michom | i call back home and they tell me the LEDs are off, they press the power button again and it becomes reachable |
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| 07:37.26 | michom | i also check the uptime, it resets... |
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| 07:37.52 | zoite | Was just wondering if it was a kernel panic or something |
| 07:38.04 | michom | how can i check that? |
| 07:39.21 | zoite | You would have to see it happen |
| 07:39.30 | michom | the laptop is running seti@home 24/7, that's all it is doing... it might be overheating as well but i doubt it... still i don't know how to check the shutdown reason... |
| 07:39.43 | zoite | You chould check your /var/log/syslog for info |
| 07:39.58 | zoite | It may or may not be of help |
| 07:39.58 | michom | alright let me check |
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| 07:47.05 | michom | shutdown[24283]: shutting down for system halt |
| 07:47.32 | intx | did they change dovecot recently? I can't find an entry in /etc/init.d for it to restart it |
| 07:48.01 | michom | Nov 23 02:03:17 core shutdown[24283]: shutting down for system halt |
| 07:48.02 | michom | Nov 23 02:03:31 core rsyslogd: [origin software="rsyslogd" swVersion="7.4.4" x-pid="1754" x-info="http://www.rsyslog.com"] exiting on signal 15. |
| 07:48.24 | michom | that's all i can find around the time of shutdown... nothing before that for 15 minutes except the printer being turned off |
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| 08:00.23 | nezZario | Is there any way to downsize the / partition without a live cd? (over ssh) |
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| 08:00.51 | nezZario | These retards didn't partition this hw server as I specified, I just don't feel like waiting for them to reprovision and I don't have ipmi or anything |
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| 08:01.08 | nezZario | because you know, a 1TB / is just what I needed |
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| 08:01.43 | iceroot | nezZario: no, not possible with just ssh |
| 08:01.45 | Rubin | well. you could do a loopback file as another partition |
| 08:02.03 | Rubin | kinda odd setup but it would work ok |
| 08:02.08 | iceroot | nezZario: you have to do it while / is not mounted and that is only the case on a live-system |
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| 08:02.24 | nezZario | i thought ext4 could do online resizes? or is that only growing? |
| 08:03.40 | iceroot | nezZario: its only possible when the partition is not mounted |
| 08:05.12 | Rubin | nezZario, use dd to create a file the size of the partition you want to create, then mount it with -oloop |
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| 08:06.27 | iceroot | nezZario: as it seems its possible to make the partition BIGGEr but not SMALLER while it is running |
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| 08:06.35 | iceroot | nezZario: resize2fs is the tool for that |
| 08:07.11 | iceroot | nezZario: seems like the kernel is supporting that when the fs will get bigger (but you need free space before, changing the partition itself is not possible while running) |
| 08:07.31 | iceroot | nezZario: so create a bigger partition and then change the filesystem while it is running with resize2fs |
| 08:07.42 | nezZario | yeah i'm familiar with resize2fs, never sized down though |
| 08:07.51 | nezZario | ah, was just wondering |
| 08:08.06 | iceroot | nezZario: but you need already a bigger partition |
| 08:08.31 | ompaul | backups and testing ... two of the worlds forgotten arts |
| 08:08.43 | nezZario | this happens every freakin time, no matter the providers |
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| 08:09.09 | nezZario | usually setup a 40gb /, then rest of the disk to a lvm pv and use that to provision xen instances |
| 08:09.14 | iceroot | nezZario: normally they should have something like vnc to see the boot process and to be able to boot a rescue/live system |
| 08:09.29 | nezZario | yeah, this is a new provider, all my others have decent ipmi boards :) |
| 08:09.53 | Hukka | Seems like the gdm3 greeter changed somehow somewhat recently, but there's not much in the changelogs. The changing looks wouldn't matter, but now I have some bugs with i3 which don't manifest if I start it with startx |
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| 08:10.10 | iceroot | nezZario: but another point is, i dont see a single reason to have a 1TB / |
| 08:10.24 | Hukka | http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/g/gdm3/gdm3_3.8.4-6_changelog shows only minor bugfixes, nothing that would change the whole greeter |
| 08:10.26 | iceroot | nezZario: normally /home and maybe /var and stuff are extra partitions |
| 08:10.31 | Hukka | So I guess I'm missing something |
| 08:11.18 | Hukka | In addition to the i3 problem, xrandr --rotate doesn't work anymore in /etc/gdm3/Init/Default |
| 08:11.33 | Hukka | Works fine after the wm has started |
| 08:11.44 | Hukka | Any idea where I should be looking at? |
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| 08:12.16 | Hukka | Oh, and running sid |
| 08:12.22 | nezZario | i actually haven't done split partitions in a long time other than /boot and / |
| 08:12.34 | nezZario | i didn't think you linux guys were huge fans :) |
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| 08:13.00 | iceroot | nezZario: i normally prefer /, /boot, /home and swap as extra partitions |
| 08:13.06 | ompaul | Hukka: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade before you go any further |
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| 08:13.27 | Hukka | done |
| 08:13.31 | phy1729 | Hukka: #debian-net on irc.oftc.net may be more help for sid |
| 08:13.36 | phy1729 | next* |
| 08:13.42 | iceroot | nezZario: my system is 60GB / (ssd) and 4TB storage mounted at /home/michael/storage |
| 08:13.47 | Hukka | I see, I'll pop in there, then |
| 08:13.47 | ompaul | Hukka: and restarted if you got a new kernel? |
| 08:14.06 | Hukka | ompaul: That's when the problems started ;) |
| 08:14.11 | nezZario | really? i always kinda thought /var /var/log were the most important ones on systems where it's only going to be a close-nit band of people using it to prevent logs filling |
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| 08:14.24 | Hukka | Though I think it's more related to simply letting the gdm3 binary restart |
| 08:14.32 | iceroot | nezZario: /var/run for example for mysql databases |
| 08:14.41 | Hukka | (as I hadn't logged out and back in since early November) |
| 08:14.48 | iceroot | nezZario: depends always on the needs |
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| 08:17.10 | nezZario | iceroot: but honestly, i don't have a single server with more than 3 "real" partitions (if we're including swap) out of about 30 excluding an old netbsd machine (rest are debian) |
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| 08:34.38 | Kuroshita | hey all, I cannot access the web interfaces of installed apps on a fresh debian install. The apps that won't work for example are bittorrent sync and Transmission web. Locally I can access them, but remotely (within the home network) I cannot. Is there a package I need to install?> |
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| 08:38.43 | SOUL_OF_R00T | nice morning great guys |
| 08:39.25 | sabotender | I am trying to install the latest version of wine, but I am getting the following error: "Dependency is not satisfiable: libwine-unstable (= 1.5.5-0.1)" |
| 08:39.30 | SOUL_OF_R00T | i have a plan to build on my networks one public compile farm where i found explanation how i can do it? |
| 08:39.56 | sabotender | I am following these two tutorials: http://www.binarytides.com/install-wine-debian-wheezy/ & http://r3dux.org/2012/03/how-to-install-the-latest-version-of-wine-in-lmde/ |
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| 08:40.38 | sabotender | #linux referred me to #winehq which referred me to #debian as "it is a package manager issue and not a wine issue" |
| 08:40.46 | sabotender | whatever that means |
| 08:42.09 | sabotender | I have installed: 'libc6-i386, lib32asound2, libc6-dev-i386 and ia32-libs' without a problem |
| 08:42.45 | sabotender | I downloaded all of the packages from the '64-bit' section from: http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unstable/ |
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| 08:43.22 | sabotender | so now I am unsure what to do |
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| 08:47.30 | sabotender | should I be installing this from root? |
| 08:48.59 | sabotender | how am I supposed to know which dependencies are missing? |
| 08:49.05 | sabotender | I don't understand that. |
| 08:49.23 | sabotender | well..it doesn't matter. I am logging back into windows |
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| 09:15.12 | doublehp | i cant find pepper or adobe flash in aptitude, am i missing a line in source.list ? |
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| 09:16.15 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell doublehp about flash |
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| 09:16.43 | jelly-home | doublehp: see /msg dpkg adobe flash, and /msg dpkg pepper flash formore information |
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| 09:22.52 | SOUL_OF_R00T | guys i have a doubt during last years i always use a freebsd on my primary gateway because ipforward capacity of made a shaping i don't known if it is possible under iptables anyone known? |
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| 09:26.51 | SOUL_OF_R00T | very thabks musca |
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| 10:09.43 | Ast001 | hell my debian-server runs strange. I installed it after 5-6 successful tries but now it freeze with following kernel message: http://pastebin.ca/2487225 . Do you know is this message related to memory ? I assume it is either memory or hard disk issue. |
| 10:09.52 | Ast001 | *hello not hell lol |
| 10:11.16 | Ast001 | it is debian wheezy. Installation failed couple of times (freeze) not I somehow managed to install it but it freeze with that message saying something like kernel bug etc... but it is not bug of course it is hardware issue. |
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| 10:14.08 | well_laid_lawn | I'd run memtest to check the memory |
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| 10:18.19 | dcslv | Ast001 i second well_laid_lawn's suggestion |
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| 10:21.10 | Ast001 | ok I will try to do so. I thought we can dig somehow from log which part of hardware is malfunctioning. |
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| 10:22.55 | dcslv | generally not as telling as getting a hard yes or no on the state of the memory |
| 10:23.05 | dcslv | something you should do before you install anyhow |
| 10:23.17 | dcslv | a single pass with memtest86 saves you these kinds of questions |
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| 10:25.18 | Ast001 | ok thanks. |
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| 10:58.13 | SOUL_OF_R00T | anyone known how i can use compilefarm gcc on debian 7 amd64 i am new in this ? |
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| 11:01.47 | wols | SOUL_OF_R00T: usually with distcc |
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| 11:03.11 | SOUL_OF_R00T | ok wols any easy learning guide ? |
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| 11:09.26 | ompaul | SOUL_OF_R00T: source of the problem has it's own docs :) http://distcc.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/web/index.html |
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| 11:18.25 | SOUL_OF_R00T | thanks ompaul i read thanks for tip |
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| 11:24.02 | drybjed | how do you handle ssl keys on headless servers (hardware, virtual)? are they decrypted and passwordless with secure fs permissions (700 for directory, 400 for key and root:root as owner) ? |
| 11:25.30 | casimo | Hello, I need an advice. I want to create a USB stick with a GNU/Linux distro for using it as a pocket Linux, but I don't know which distro to take. I would like to have a live system. Should I use Knoppix or Slax, or would DamnSmall Linux be better? Are there others, based on Debian? |
| 11:26.01 | drybjed | casimo: there's grml if you prefer text mode and console |
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| 11:26.34 | casimo | drybjed: And something with a GUI? |
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| 11:26.57 | drybjed | Debian Live perhaps? |
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| 11:27.45 | Shadow`` | i'd go with knoppix, but that might be cause sentimental value |
| 11:27.46 | drybjed | casimo: you can check this list: https://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Census |
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| 11:28.05 | wols | casimo: why not all of them. use YUMI |
| 11:28.09 | drybjed | oh, and crunchbang is also nice |
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| 11:28.53 | wols | drybjed: ssl keys are always handled the same way, on every debian. have to be or sshd wouldn't work |
| 11:29.09 | casimo | wols: There should be some space left on the stick ^^ |
| 11:29.44 | wols | then the stick is not big enough. you can put as many distros as you want onto it basically |
| 11:29.48 | drybjed | wols: so protection with file ownership and permissions should be enough? |
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| 11:30.19 | wols | drybjed: you have no choice how it's handled |
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| 11:30.45 | drybjed | wols: I'm not talking about keys in /etc/sshd/* |
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| 11:31.13 | drybjed | I'm asking about keys for SSL services on a webserver, or openvpn, or TLS on different services |
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| 11:32.31 | wols | every one of them has a documentaiton what needs to go where |
| 11:32.38 | wols | you have no choice |
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| 11:34.35 | helpis | Hi,I have a problem with samba, but no one in samba's channel answers,and if i dont get help soon my bosses will force me to work with windows, may someone help me please? |
| 11:34.54 | drybjed | helpis: what's the problem? |
| 11:35.31 | helpis | I installed Linux in my workplace, but I need access to the network servers,file servers,who are openwithout user or password, I installed samba+smb4k , the second program scanns the network and finds them,but when I try to access I get error 6 "Retrying with upper case share name..." |
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| 11:36.29 | drybjed | helpis: so you are trying to connect to a samba server from linux, correct? have you tried scanning it with smbclient? |
| 11:36.41 | drybjed | smbclient -L host, I believe |
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| 11:37.31 | helpis | it asks for a password drybjed ,but the server has not password |
| 11:38.23 | casimo | Thanks, I'll try YUMI :) |
| 11:38.40 | drybjed | helpis: try this: mount -t cifs //<your shareserver name or ip>/sharefolder -o username=guest,password="" /home/myuser/mountpoint |
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| 11:40.00 | drybjed | got it from here: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/65106/accessing-a-smb-share-without-a-password |
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| 11:42.17 | helpis | drybjed: mount error(13): Permission denied |
| 11:42.24 | helpis | i do it as root |
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| 11:42.59 | drybjed | helpis: maybe try accessing it with konqueror? that usually worked for me |
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| 11:43.09 | drybjed | open konqueror and go to smb:/// |
| 11:43.20 | drybjed | you should see list of nearby samba servers |
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| 11:43.45 | helpis | ill install konqueror then |
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| 12:08.59 | SOUL_OF_R00T | ompaul, very thanks help me much |
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| 12:11.45 | ompaul | SOUL_OF_R00T: y/w |
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| 12:13.11 | SOUL_OF_R00T | the shaping has solved onetroube with some strange ssh-agent in my box |
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| 12:14.58 | war9407 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:15.16 | wols | !tell war9407 about search |
| 12:15.44 | war9407 | yes, its in the x86_64 ver, but not x86 |
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| 12:16.37 | wols | war9407: it is in neither in jessie |
| 12:16.53 | wols | war9407: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/596735/msg judd v smokeping amd64 |
| 12:17.00 | wols | sorry, bad clipboard |
| 12:17.28 | wols | war9407: /msg judd v smokeping and /msg judd v smokeping amd64 neither shows it |
| 12:17.57 | themill | ,v smokeping |
| 12:17.58 | judd | Package: smokeping on i386 -- squeeze: 2.3.6-5+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 2.3.6-5+squeeze1; sid: 2.6.8-2; wheezy: 2.6.8-2; experimental: 2.6.9-1~exp0 |
| 12:18.01 | themill | ? |
| 12:18.11 | wols | testing |
| 12:18.36 | themill | ahh... "shows it [in testing]", yes |
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| 12:46.17 | Guest75083 | Hi there, quick question, anyone here know much about isc-dhcp-server? |
| 12:46.42 | Supaplex | more or less. |
| 12:46.44 | Supaplex | !ask |
| 12:46.45 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 12:47.26 | Guest75083 | Well in a nutshell, is there any way to reload the config for it while it's running or add reservations without having to restart it to add it to the config? |
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| 12:48.46 | h00ked | hi, im now solving one problem. I need install one application (Oracle 11g database) on my debian server, but instalator have only GUI interface. Im on win7 machine with putty. have anyone idea how run GUI installation via ssh? (sorry for my bad eng) |
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| 12:49.12 | Guest75083 | h00ked: find a headless installer |
| 12:49.14 | Supaplex | Guest75083: I recall reading the docs long long ago, that that oft request feature has little contributions from the public, and in the interest of stablity, it has not changed thus far. |
| 12:50.03 | Guest75083 | Supaplex: welp. I tried at least |
| 12:50.18 | wols | h00ked: use remote X. e.g. use XMing on windows and do ssh X forwarding |
| 12:50.44 | wols | h00ked: or use Xvnc on the server and connect with VNC |
| 12:51.11 | Supaplex | h00ked: or install cygwin with xorg, ssh, etc, and ssh -X into it. BTW, Debian is not supported by Oracle as I know it, and we cannot offer much help either. There's PostgreSQL if you're looking for an alternative (different flavor, similar features). |
| 12:51.37 | h00ked | wols: im looking for xming now. thanks, but on the server, i dont need gnome or similiar right? |
| 12:51.57 | wols | no you don't. you want a window manager however. (few hundred kB) |
| 12:52.12 | Guest75083 | h00ked: https://forums.oracle.com/thread/2297443 |
| 12:52.12 | Guest75083 | \o :P |
| 12:52.15 | h00ked | Supaplex: yep, oracle support only express edition, but i need full version for dev |
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| 13:18.25 | unkn-error | dose anyone know if apt-get or aptitude has an option like "apt-get install kde-standard --PRETEND" |
| 13:18.45 | petern_ | -u |
| 13:19.07 | petern_ | err,, -s |
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| 13:20.29 | unkn-error | -s, --simulate, thx! |
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| 13:41.24 | g00se | Is there a way to detect whether PATA drive B is a slave of drive A without opening the box |
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| 13:42.49 | wols | look in BIOS. usually it shows there |
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| 13:43.24 | g00se | wols: Yes - i was hoping to do it programatically |
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| 13:44.18 | Supaplex | g00se: hwinfo or related tool might. dmidecode too. |
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| 13:45.44 | g00se | Supaplex: Thanks - i'll try it |
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| 13:46.40 | wols | g00se: lshw or dmidecode. maybe even dmesg output |
| 13:46.49 | wols | hwinfo obviously won't run |
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| 13:49.12 | Supaplex | why would hwinfo not run? that seems counter intuitive. |
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| 13:49.57 | wols | ah, there is a hwinfo in debian too. it's a well know windows program... |
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| 13:50.24 | Supaplex | ahh. |
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| 13:53.20 | h00ked | i never think that it will be complicated install Oracle 11g db... :/ express edition was so easy :/ |
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| 13:56.09 | Supaplex | h00ked: harass them to support all the mainstream distros, and pull their head out of the sand. ;o) |
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| 13:58.07 | h00ked | Supaplex: they support express edition, but, im developing apps for big company, so :-) express edition is good enough for 99% |
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| 13:58.50 | Supaplex | meh. hehe. |
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| 13:59.29 | h00ked | Supaplex: and in combine with debian, its deadly :D |
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| 14:01.23 | Supaplex | I'm a Pg fella myself. Does everything I should not ask it to do. |
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| 14:14.15 | SpeedyG | Hi, I've got a problem with nginx+wordpress on debian where specific deny all / allow {IP} directives don't seem to work. Anyone experienced similar problems? |
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| 14:16.35 | zophy | is there a git utility to retrieve and convert a cvs repository to a git repo ? |
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| 14:20.30 | straycat | zophy: git-cvs |
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| 14:22.27 | g00se | I've got a box with two hard drives and i want to clone the master. This box is v. difficult to boot other than from the master. I want to clone the master. Is there a way to do this (chroot?) whereby i can dismount the root fs and master so i can copy it to the slave? |
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| 14:23.09 | g00se | (Difficult as in lacking media. There IS a floppy though) |
| 14:23.49 | guston | dutchfish, http://paste.debian.net/68738/ |
| 14:24.02 | dutchfish | is looking at it |
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| 14:26.47 | hopmol | guston: what does cloning have to do with boot options? |
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| 14:28.17 | g00se | hopmol: Well i can't clone it properly when it's been booted from that medium and has the OS and root fs can i? |
| 14:28.22 | guston | hopmol, cloning? |
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| 14:28.37 | dutchfish | guston, as far as i can see, not a firmware issue for the lan card, i suspect ioemu issues related to the schedular, i strongly advise the latest fixes for it. see the vbox lines in the dmesg output. |
| 14:28.39 | wols | g00se: boot with "init=/bin/bash". then you can copy the / partition |
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| 14:29.42 | dutchfish | guston, the fixes in rc2 https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/log/?id=refs/tags/v3.13-rc2 (last 28 hours) |
| 14:29.52 | g00se | wols: I need to copy the lot, mbr and all .. |
| 14:30.11 | wols | you can, dd the disk device file then |
| 14:30.16 | hopmol | guston: runleval 1 ddrescue first boot secors MBR, then rsync all without /proc and other moving targets |
| 14:30.28 | wols | the point is you cannot have anything writing to the disk while doing it |
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| 14:31.48 | dutchfish | guston, or wait until 3.12.3 is released |
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| 14:31.53 | g00se | wols: Yes i know. I'd just feel better doing it from another medium ;) |
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| 14:32.24 | guston | dutchfish, ok, its working :) |
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| 14:32.47 | dutchfish | guston, oh, hit me .... |
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| 14:33.37 | g00se | wols: If i am going to do it from the same medium, isn't just a read-only mount of / sufficient? |
| 14:33.39 | guston | just curious for the log faults |
| 14:33.58 | dutchfish | guston, what did you change? |
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| 14:34.47 | guston | nothing, but everything seems to work |
| 14:35.29 | dutchfish | guston, that schedular issue will bite you in the end, dont want to be used in a production envirenment |
| 14:36.08 | guston | brb, have to do some shopping |
| 14:36.21 | dutchfish | guston, for testing it is fine i suppose, but keep in eye on it, with the next . release |
| 14:36.27 | dutchfish | gl |
| 14:38.16 | wols | g00se: you can basically only read only the medium when you boot the way I do it. and yes read-only is sufficient |
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| 14:43.41 | gerhard | Hi, with iceape I'm not able to connect to google or youtube, with midori it works. |
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| 14:50.30 | musca | gerhard: did you clear the cache? |
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| 14:51.39 | Wrony | Hello everyone, i can't find phoronix-test-suite by repositories, but i found in on page http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/phoronix-test-suite , how to install it? |
| 14:52.29 | abrotman | Wrony: pastebin your sources.list |
| 14:52.38 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Wrony about contrib |
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| 14:58.58 | Wrony | http://pastebin.com/YXdmCBiU |
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| 15:01.11 | wols | Wrony: you need "contrib" /msg dpkg contrib |
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| 15:03.10 | abrotman | bot already told him |
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| 15:03.51 | Wrony | what I get is: Err http://http.debian.net whezzy/main amd64 Packages 404 Not Found |
| 15:04.02 | abrotman | wtf is whezzy ? |
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| 15:04.09 | teraflops | ^ |
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| 15:06.24 | dvs | !tell Wrony about ftp.debian.org |
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| 15:11.39 | anoob | i can't reboot or shutdown on lxde ... i've tried "gpasswd -a user powerdev" but this group doesn't exists at all ... |
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| 15:17.07 | jrock20041 | dondelelcaro: Was following that wiki from arch site and now I can boot without using nomodeset but X is still a nogo |
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| 15:17.35 | eblip | what is the best way i can save files in encrypted format on debian |
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| 15:17.57 | jrock20041 | Cannot get X running on my macbook pro 8,3. Here is my xorg log http://paste.debian.net/68750 |
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| 15:18.00 | eblip | i have come across ecryptfs...not sure if its the best thing to use |
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| 15:19.42 | dizzylizzy | eblip, what do you mean by "encrypt files" ? Do you mean have your hold hard drive, or large parts of it, encrypted? |
| 15:19.50 | dizzylizzy | or do you mean a few particular files that are encrypted |
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| 15:20.10 | dizzylizzy | your hole* hard drive |
| 15:20.18 | dizzylizzy | whole* |
| 15:20.18 | dizzylizzy | wow |
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| 15:23.59 | eblip | disslylizzy...i just want to encrypt one or 2 files that i create |
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| 15:24.11 | eblip | not the whole drive |
| 15:24.22 | eblip | just certain backup files |
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| 15:24.32 | guston | back |
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| 15:24.45 | fs1 | How do I install debian without a bootloader? |
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| 15:24.56 | eblip | when i save them i want them to be saved in hard core encryption ...so if some good hacker gets his hands on them ..then he cant decrytp the file |
| 15:25.08 | wols | fs1: what do you have running right now? |
| 15:25.33 | fs1 | Windows... want to install debian but not install grub, since I want to use efi stub to boot |
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| 15:25.44 | wols | you never need to install grub |
| 15:25.48 | wols | !tell fs1 about ig |
| 15:25.50 | dizzylizzy | eblip, that I guess would depend on what type of file they are; but by and large, your best bet is to save them unencrypted, and then encrypt them using the "openssl" command |
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| 15:26.17 | eblip | ah ....never thought of that ....that could be an excellent option |
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| 15:26.53 | fs1 | not sure.. I tried ubuntu netinstall image and selected "Continue without bootloader" but after reboot it takes me to grub prompt.. So i want to try without bootloader on deibna |
| 15:26.57 | fs1 | debian* |
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| 15:27.39 | dizzylizzy | really though if you want to prevent any remnants of the file staying on the drive unencrypted, you should encrypt the whole drive with something like LUKS |
| 15:27.45 | dizzylizzy | but enough of my paranoia |
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| 15:29.02 | jrock20041 | changing settings in your kernel in debian is rather confusing. Anyone could point me to a good howto on how to do this? |
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| 15:29.55 | wols | fs1: please ask in #ubuntu for ubuntu support |
| 15:30.04 | fs1 | SO, will debian ask me during install if i want to install bootloader? |
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| 15:30.23 | wols | please read the install guide, the one you've been linked |
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| 15:32.56 | dizzylizzy | fs1, yes, it will, and you can skip that installation step |
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| 15:33.19 | dizzylizzy | i can only speak for the text-installer and not the pretty graphical one, though they should be the same |
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| 15:34.28 | dizzylizzy | Ignore the libaudit and libclutter issues, those I've already identified the problems. I've reduced my upgrade problems to an issue with perl... it seems 5.14 is required by just about everything and 5.18 wants to be installed by perl-base, so all of my packages are being held back.http://sprunge.us/XiDX -- I'm running sid |
| 15:34.43 | dizzylizzy | Not sure how to approach this situation, any tips? |
| 15:34.45 | hopmol | eblip: you can go pgp, but make suore you undestand the risk of not being full HD encrypted |
| 15:35.28 | fs1 | Also I tried to use debian neinstall but it did not have drivers for me Intel NIC.. and the intel drivers that I downloaded is just the source, its not a binary so the net installer did not recognize it... |
| 15:35.54 | fs1 | maybe it would work by using a newer kernel |
| 15:35.54 | wols | fs1: it does. it lacks the non-free firmware |
| 15:36.00 | wols | !tell fsl about firmware image |
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| 15:36.39 | abrotman | wired nic? likely has no firmware ? |
| 15:36.51 | wols | oh |
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| 15:37.22 | fs1 | "Intel® I217V, 1 x Gigabit LAN Controller" |
| 15:37.54 | wols | abrotman: is there an installer with backports kernel? |
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| 15:38.10 | abrotman | don't think kmuto still does his thing ? |
| 15:38.42 | wols | all squeeze: http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/ |
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| 15:39.04 | abrotman | doesn't seem so |
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| 15:41.30 | jrock20041 | so I compiled my new kernel is make && make modules_install. where do I copy the bzimage so I can boot to it? |
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| 15:42.22 | jrock20041 | I want to try to get grub2 to pick it up when I do update-grub |
| 15:42.44 | fs1 | do you have an uefi system? |
| 15:42.50 | jrock20041 | Yes |
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| 15:42.57 | jrock20041 | wait |
| 15:43.16 | jrock20041 | let me check to see if I have a sspecial efi partition |
| 15:43.31 | jrock20041 | yes I do |
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| 15:44.06 | fs1 | you can boot bzimage from the efi shell or add it with efibootmgr |
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| 15:45.02 | jrock20041 | fs1: I am using grub2 with EFI support |
| 15:45.16 | fs1 | yeah but you dont need grub, you can boot the kernel directly |
| 15:45.30 | fs1 | faster and better |
| 15:45.33 | jrock20041 | I have not started on that adventure yet |
| 15:45.33 | fs1 | unless you dualboot |
| 15:45.58 | jrock20041 | I was trying too but this time I replaced my whole mac partition and just have debian on it |
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| 15:46.24 | teraflops | jrock20041: afaik if you compile the kernel by the debian way when dpkg -i the package it cares about grub even using uefi |
| 15:46.31 | babilen | jrock20041: Take a look at http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html -- we typically recommend to use the deb-pkg make target |
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| 15:46.58 | fs1 | i booted ubuntu netinstall from usb by launching efi shell and typing linux ro initrd=\initrd.gz , voila.. it works similarlly with debian i guess |
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| 15:47.39 | fs1 | don't even have to specify root, atleast on the usb stick |
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| 15:48.12 | jrock20041 | babilen: Thank i will look |
| 15:48.23 | jrock20041 | fs1: Would like to look into that too as a possibility |
| 15:48.54 | babilen | jrock20041: Just out of curiosity: Why did you have to compile your own kernel? |
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| 15:49.40 | jrock20041 | babilen: I cannot get X to work and from what I read on macbook, the intel video card must be compile in the kernel and not a module |
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| 15:49.51 | jrock20041 | this is all to just try to get my X to work |
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| 15:50.07 | abrotman | that doesn't sound right |
| 15:50.11 | babilen | jrock20041: That sounds quite strange |
| 15:50.21 | jrock20041 | http://paste.debian.net/68750 |
| 15:50.22 | dvs | I thought it would be compiled in the initrd |
| 15:50.25 | babilen | Lets see if it makes a difference |
| 15:50.34 | jrock20041 | that is my xorg log |
| 15:50.48 | abrotman | dvs: those are modules technically |
| 15:51.01 | dvs | exactly |
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| 15:51.19 | wols | jrock20041: what videocards do you have? |
| 15:51.20 | abrotman | fglrx ? |
| 15:51.36 | jrock20041 | wols: ati and intel |
| 15:52.05 | wols | jrock20041: your X doesn't know about your new ati card. therefore it doesn't work |
| 15:52.21 | babilen | jrock20041: fwiw, that looks as if you have switched graphics and it would make more sense to look into newer kernels that support your chipset (assuming that the current kernel doesn't) and into vga-switcheroo. I am also not convinced that bringing fglrx (with a broken configuration file (cf. https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary)) helos |
| 15:52.25 | jrock20041 | http://paste.debian.net/68757 |
| 15:52.30 | wols | if you have a haswell CPU the same will happen with intel. it is irrelevant if the intel/radeon module is in the kernel or not |
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| 15:52.59 | jrock20041 | there is my lspci |
| 15:53.03 | babilen | jrock20041: If this isn't a laptop you might want to provide more information, but I am almost certain that compiling a kernel is not the right way to solve it :) |
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| 15:53.22 | jrock20041 | babilen: its a macbook pro 8,3 |
| 15:53.41 | wols | jrock20041: what videochips exactly? |
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| 15:53.57 | babilen | (lspci -nn|grep -i vga) |
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| 15:54.25 | teraflops | jrock20041: yesterday the ati card worked simply blacklisting the intel driver,may be a deeper look into xorg config will give you the trick/clue |
| 15:54.53 | jrock20041 | http://paste.debian.net/68758 |
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| 15:55.22 | jrock20041 | teraflops: that did not work cause all it did was give me vesa |
| 15:55.43 | teraflops | so i said deeper |
| 15:55.47 | jrock20041 | :) |
| 15:56.17 | teraflops | may be a newest kernel than stock will fix that issue |
| 15:56.28 | babilen | dpkg: tell jrock20041 -about backports |
| 15:56.36 | teraflops | not sure built in module fix that |
| 15:56.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell jrock20041 -about bdo kernel |
| 15:57.05 | babilen | jrock20041: Also look into vga switcheroo (will be back later, all the best!) |
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| 15:57.35 | wols | babilen: for a radeon 6600 and sandy bridge IGP no backport kernel is necessary |
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| 15:57.48 | wols | jrock20041: most likely your xorg.conf is broken |
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| 15:57.54 | teraflops | sure |
| 15:58.03 | nerder | hello |
| 15:58.07 | jrock20041 | wols: want to see that |
| 15:58.21 | wols | want to see what? |
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| 15:58.29 | jrock20041 | my xorg.conf |
| 15:58.39 | abrotman | why do you have one at all? |
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| 15:58.46 | wols | abrotman: fglrx |
| 15:59.05 | jrock20041 | http://paste.debian.net/68759 |
| 15:59.25 | abrotman | use the intel driver! :) |
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| 15:59.50 | nerder | i need some help to install a downgraded version of unetbootin, i find out a version that i need on sourceforge, but after downloaded it i do chmod +x and try to run ./ |
| 15:59.58 | nerder | but i report and error |
| 16:00.13 | jrock20041 | abrotman: give me an error too |
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| 16:00.17 | teraflops | the aticonfig --initial could help, eransing and adding the pcis correcttly.... bat i said that yesterday |
| 16:00.20 | nerder | ./unetbootin-linux-494: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 16:00.31 | teraflops | s/erasing |
| 16:00.48 | wols | nerder: do not use unetbootin |
| 16:00.49 | jrock20041 | teraflops: I tried both of those and nothing came from it |
| 16:00.52 | nerder | but if i do locate libpng12 it's present |
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| 16:01.12 | nerder | i want use dd for make a bootable usb, but is risky |
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| 16:01.27 | nerder | what i can do if i have to do a usb bootable? |
| 16:01.33 | wols | nerder: unetbootin has a high chance of creating a non-working debian installer |
| 16:01.41 | wols | nerder: use cp, cat or dd |
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| 16:02.06 | jrock20041 | teraflops: I tried PCI:1:0:0 and PCI:0:2:0 |
| 16:02.13 | jrock20041 | still same results |
| 16:02.14 | nerder | the problem is that i have to make a windows usb bootable |
| 16:02.17 | nerder | for my mum pc |
| 16:02.28 | teraflops | ok jrock20041 |
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| 16:02.46 | nerder | but i dnt have any onther window box in my house not even at work |
| 16:02.46 | Derpadong | Uh oh |
| 16:03.06 | nerder | i already formatted as ntfs my usb pendrive |
| 16:03.36 | nerder | but the newest version of unetbootin dnt allowed me to select usb if thay are not fat32 formatted |
| 16:04.01 | teraflops | nerder: souceforges http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ is what you need |
| 16:04.30 | Derpadong | Fat32 is for booting usbs nerder |
| 16:04.42 | Derpadong | Ntfs is not allowed |
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| 16:05.06 | nerder | i dnt know i follow this tutorial |
| 16:05.17 | nerder | http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html |
| 16:06.07 | Derpadong | No good |
| 16:06.22 | Derpadong | Only tested in ubuntu 3 years ago |
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| 16:06.34 | jrock20041 | so PCI:1:0:0 is the fglrx card cause if I change that it give me errors about not finding the device on that PCI |
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| 16:07.21 | nerder | ok so? is better if i format the usb as Fat32 and use win32diskimager? |
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| 16:07.42 | teraflops | jrock20041: why dont you tie at fisr with the radeon free driver? |
| 16:08.05 | teraflops | no xorg conf needed, if im not mistaken |
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| 16:08.12 | teraflops | s/try |
| 16:08.29 | Derpadong | nerder: you could go test unetbootin |
| 16:08.34 | jrock20041 | teraflops: I am up on trying that |
| 16:09.06 | teraflops | remenber to take a llok at blcklisted drivers jrock20041 |
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| 16:09.46 | jrock20041 | teraflops: so the radeon driver is already installed |
| 16:09.54 | teraflops | sure |
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| 16:10.02 | jrock20041 | so I need to blacklist the intel driver |
| 16:10.06 | teraflops | unles you rm |
| 16:10.19 | teraflops | and uninstall fglrx |
| 16:10.19 | jrock20041 | go into xorg and change video card to radeon |
| 16:10.29 | Derpadong | nerder: they use an old version of unetbootin in that post you linked |
| 16:10.42 | teraflops | no, rm the xorg.conf |
| 16:11.03 | teraflops | afaik not needed for radeon |
| 16:11.06 | nerder | Derpadong, yes that's why i will install a old version of unetbootin |
| 16:11.25 | nerder | i download from sourceforge the version that thay talk about |
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| 16:11.52 | teraflops | nerder: thst software if for making usb bootables from windows |
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| 16:12.00 | nerder | unetbootin-494 |
| 16:12.02 | Gregor2 | can someone help me with zsnes? |
| 16:12.11 | teraflops | sorry if i missundesrtood your point |
| 16:12.11 | Gregor2 | The sound is ckrackling! |
| 16:12.43 | nerder | that's what i'm asking, Derpadong probably you dnt get the problem correctly |
| 16:12.58 | jrock20041 | ok, I rmmod intel and fglrx |
| 16:13.07 | teraflops | i meant http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ for making usb from windows |
| 16:13.07 | nerder | i have to make an Windows usb pendrive from Debian |
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| 16:13.12 | jrock20041 | removed the xorg config |
| 16:13.15 | teraflops | well try that nerder |
| 16:13.21 | jrock20041 | I black listed the intel and fglrx |
| 16:13.23 | jrock20041 | let me try |
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| 16:13.28 | sabotender | maybe I can try asking that question I had again |
| 16:13.36 | jrock20041 | teraflops: will I have to reboot |
| 16:13.44 | nerder | teraflops, the problem is that i'm not able to install unetbootin-494 |
| 16:13.55 | teraflops | mmm, not sure, but better jrock20041 |
| 16:13.55 | sabotender | moo |
| 16:14.27 | nerder | i downloaded from here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/494/ |
| 16:14.33 | sabotender | so I was trying to install the newest version of wine and i got the error somethnig like unsatisfied dependency or something |
| 16:14.33 | teraflops | nerder: sorry blame on me my english is primitive |
| 16:14.58 | sabotender | I thought I installed all the dependencies required, but it still would not install |
| 16:15.40 | sabotender | i tried to inquire in #linux but they referred me to #winehq which referred me to here |
| 16:15.57 | nerder | teraflops, dnt worry, mine too |
| 16:16.03 | jrock20041 | teraflops: did not work but it still appears to be trying to load intel driver |
| 16:16.12 | jhutchins | sobersabre: You are installing the packages provided by winehq, not by debian, correct? |
| 16:16.20 | teraflops | mmm, jhutchins |
| 16:16.22 | mtn | sabotender: if you are installing wine from outside the debian repos, you have to follow their instructions and you aren't likely to get support in here. |
| 16:16.30 | teraflops | is blacklisted properly? |
| 16:16.44 | teraflops | sorry i meant jrock20041 |
| 16:17.00 | nerder | sabotender, probably you should try aptitude -f install wine |
| 16:17.04 | jrock20041 | teraflops: http://paste.debian.net/68765 |
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| 16:17.17 | jrock20041 | I put it in filename blacklist.conf |
| 16:17.24 | teraflops | reading |
| 16:17.29 | sabotender | nerder: i was tying to install the unstable version |
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| 16:18.04 | sabotender | but i guess mtn is correct. Its a shame when the 'blame' keeps getting bounced around |
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| 16:18.37 | sabotender | winehq says that its a debian packager issue |
| 16:18.46 | sabotender | and has nothing to do with wine |
| 16:19.01 | sabotender | linux sent me to winehq |
| 16:19.17 | sabotender | and now debian is sending me back to winehq (i can only assume) |
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| 16:19.44 | mtn | sabotender: it isn't a matter of blame. this channel supports debian and debian packages, not 3rd party packages |
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| 16:20.57 | teraflops | jrock20041: what intel graphivs driver are loaded, take a look with lsmod |
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| 16:21.41 | jrock20041 | teraflops: I do not see one |
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| 16:22.13 | jrock20041 | http://paste.debian.net/68766 |
| 16:22.21 | nerder | what kind of error is this? ./unetbootin-linux-494: error while loading shared libraries: libpng12.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 16:22.38 | teraflops | mmm, may i was mistaken when saying no xorg needed jrock20041 |
| 16:22.48 | teraflops | s/may be |
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| 16:23.11 | jrock20041 | teraflops: well I see fglrx is still in that list |
| 16:23.25 | teraflops | bad point jrock20041 |
| 16:23.41 | teraflops | did you unistalled fglrx? |
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| 16:23.50 | ompaul | nerder: why are you using unetbootin? |
| 16:23.52 | jrock20041 | No |
| 16:23.57 | jrock20041 | Let me do that now |
| 16:23.57 | nerder | http://paste.debian.net/68767/ |
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| 16:24.03 | jrock20041 | apt-get remove fglrx* |
| 16:24.17 | teraflops | and sure theres no radeon or fglrx .conf int modules.d? jrock20041 |
| 16:24.23 | nerder | ompaul, i'm trying to make a Windows7 usb bootable pendrive |
| 16:24.32 | nerder | i'm follow this tutorial |
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| 16:24.46 | nerder | ompaul: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html |
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| 16:25.00 | teraflops | may be a 3.6 kernel will be a better choice jrock20041 |
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| 16:25.18 | teraflops | nothing to loose, you can boot the kernel you want |
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| 16:25.43 | jrock20041 | teraflops: how would I upgade the kernel as apt-get is not pulling it |
| 16:25.54 | teraflops | many choices |
| 16:25.55 | jrock20041 | is that the wheezy backport thhing |
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| 16:26.07 | ompaul | nerder: that says while using ubuntu last time I checked this was #debian |
| 16:26.21 | teraflops | you can compile by yourself or using backports or custom kernel repos jrock20041 |
| 16:26.40 | jrock20041 | teraflops: oh wait a minut |
| 16:26.57 | nerder | what is the point? where is the difference? |
| 16:27.04 | jrock20041 | in my grub line I add i915.modeset=1 |
| 16:27.11 | nerder | i'm not doing nothing "debian" releted |
| 16:28.51 | nerder | uname -a : Linux nerder 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 16:28.54 | nerder | so? |
| 16:28.56 | ompaul | nerder: here is my point, I'm running SID I can kick off that program and get past the menu right for the end pinece |
| 16:29.53 | ompaul | nerder: there must be other ways to do it, try this cat windows.iso (whatever the real name is) > /dev/sdWHATEVER |
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| 16:30.18 | nerder | ok |
| 16:30.21 | ompaul | nerder: doesn't come with a promise but it might work |
| 16:30.33 | Gregor2 | is there a way to run counter strike source on debian? |
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| 16:31.10 | ompaul | Gregor2: are you asking can you run steam? |
| 16:31.12 | ompaul | !steam |
| 16:31.13 | dpkg | Steam is a proprietary content delivery and management application for PC software with Linux support. Packaged in <testing> (non-free); amd64 users are required to enable <multiarch> and install the steam:i386 package. For help with upstream issues, ask #steamlug on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 16:31.59 | Gregor2 | but there is no steam package |
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| 16:32.23 | Gregor2 | and if i run the steam package from the website it says something is missing! |
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| 16:34.53 | rames | hello all, could i get a packaging review? i've got 2-3 questions on a new script i'm bundling/building *.debs for |
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| 16:35.40 | rames | 1) use of tempfile here (is this properly secure? should it be in /var/run? but /var/run requires permissions issues) https://github.com/ramses0/xscreensaver-pi-hdmi/blob/master/bin/xscreensaver-pi-hdmi#L22 |
| 16:36.28 | rames | 2) control file - does this look right? i'm realizing i need to add one dependency to install/run-time (xscreensaver), but how is everything else looking? https://github.com/ramses0/xscreensaver-pi-hdmi/blob/master/debian/control |
| 16:37.08 | rames | 3) not checked in are: debian/files, debian/....substvars, debian/....debhelper.log ... are they required, or transitory? |
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| 16:38.22 | jrock20041 | teraflops: going to install kernel 3.10 |
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| 16:38.51 | teraflops | nice jrock20041 |
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| 16:39.16 | rames | 4) use of debian/README.md, double-duty as manpage... i'd prefer to have it at top level, but i think debian likes to have it in /debian directory too |
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| 16:39.34 | teraflops | jrock20041: try to uninstall all fglr stuff and customizations |
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| 16:40.57 | jrock20041 | teraflops: I uninstalled all fglrx stuff already, take a look at new log http://paste.debian.net/68771 |
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| 16:41.42 | abrotman | dpkg: tell rames about mentors |
| 16:42.11 | rames | abrotman: thanks, i was just hitting lists.debian.org/devel.html |
| 16:42.25 | teraflops | and taeka a look at modules blacklisted eitheer by hand or by package installation |
| 16:42.33 | teraflops | s/take jrock20041 |
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| 16:43.35 | Leoneof | hi, i want to use wayland in debian jessie, is it possible? |
| 16:44.13 | jhutchins | Leoneof: Possible, yes. Pushbutton, no. |
| 16:44.19 | jhutchins | !wayland |
| 16:44.20 | dpkg | Wayland is a display server protocol and implementation library, intended as a simpler replacement for the X Window System. Ask me about <weston>. http://wayland.freedesktop.org/ #wayland on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 16:44.27 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 16:44.42 | abrotman | Leoneof: try it and see, packages are there |
| 16:45.07 | teraflops | !tell tefaflops about weston |
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| 16:46.01 | abrotman | dpkg: tell teraflops about selftell |
| 16:46.02 | jrock20041 | teraflops: something I noticed in the console but it is not in the logs, when I remove xorg.conf and just run gdm3 it states the follwoign |
| 16:46.20 | jrock20041 | maximum number of X display failures reached |
| 16:46.21 | addaitech | hrm about to do this install |
| 16:46.35 | jrock20041 | its almost like it trying to create many x environments |
| 16:46.48 | addaitech | just downloaded the testing dvd's |
| 16:46.59 | addaitech | should be fun will be first install without installing gnome |
| 16:47.08 | eptalon | I have a drive dropping out of my software raid (Result: hostbyte=DID_BAD_TARGET driverbyte=DRIVER_OK), and a partition on that drive is not visible. Ideas? |
| 16:47.15 | eptalon | (Debian Testing) |
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| 16:48.00 | Leoneof | jhutchins, abrotman, thanks :) |
| 16:48.15 | teraflops | sorry abrotman didnt used before |
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| 17:00.13 | jhsfejhfgef | are there kde 4.11 packages available anywhere for stable? there is a bugfix in kwin I'm waiting for, and I'm not happy about waiting for jessie to be released. is upgrading to testing/unstable the only way in this case? |
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| 17:02.28 | abrotman | jhsfejhfgef: not likely |
| 17:02.45 | abrotman | jhsfejhfgef: you can run jessie now, but there will bve bugs |
| 17:02.45 | unseensoul | My computer doesn't recognise my ntfs filesystem external hard drive when plugged in through usb. What might be wrong? According to dmesg it seems to disconnect automatically as soon as the system tries to automount it. |
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| 17:03.13 | ChrisH | unseensoul: show us the dmesg output on paste.debian.net please |
| 17:04.53 | unseensoul | ChrisH, nothing comes up on dmesg now when I plug it in :S |
| 17:04.58 | abrotman | is ntfs-3g installed? |
| 17:05.03 | unseensoul | Yes7 |
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| 17:06.19 | unseensoul | Weirdly enough it has recognized it just now unexpectedly :O |
| 17:06.43 | unseensoul | I just changed it to a different USB port |
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| 17:07.36 | abrotman | well, that was easy |
| 17:08.02 | unseensoul | :) |
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| 17:09.39 | Chousuke | it's a fact of life that complaining about a problem to someone else tends to make the problem go away |
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| 17:11.22 | unseensoul | Chousuke, I have to agree with you somehow :) |
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| 17:29.11 | ZIPY | http://helpdeskgeek.com/wp-content/pictures/2010/11/05_running_panelrestore_shell_script.png?d620e9 <-- can i get this in debian too? |
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| 17:29.28 | ZIPY | when i doubleclick a shell script file |
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| 17:30.42 | reavengr1y | depends on the filesystem the script is on and its mount options |
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| 17:37.46 | amospalla | my mdadm raid rebuilds on every boot, anyone faced this? |
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| 17:42.08 | ChrisH | amospalla: does the rebuild finishs until shutdown? |
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| 17:43.18 | amospalla | ChrisH: yes |
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| 17:47.16 | ChrisH | amospalla: then it should not start a rebuild next boot. is there anything in dmesg explaining why it happens? If unsure, show complete dmesg incl. cat /proc/mdstat on paste.debian.net |
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| 17:49.24 | amospalla | ChrisH: I can see this message on dmesg [ 1.747632] md/raid1:md4: not clean -- starting background reconstruction |
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| 17:50.59 | ChrisH | amospalla: then check which partitions are in md4 and check if something/somebody writes onto it. Is that a dual-boot setup? |
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| 17:52.04 | amospalla | it is a dual boot setup, but nobody else writes on these volumes |
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| 17:53.52 | amospalla | the only change my system has had, is moving from another distro to debian, this week. Then the rebuilds started. |
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| 17:56.49 | ChrisH | amospalla: You might want to boot from a CD medium and check the two mirror parts using dd and compare the output. Thats the only idea left at me. |
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| 17:57.50 | amospalla | ChrisH: isn't that something like mismatch_cnt file? |
| 17:58.02 | amospalla | I should check the output of it |
| 17:58.07 | amospalla | ChrisH: thank you for your time :) |
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| 18:16.15 | halt | Hi all, is there any clear way, to list all the cron job, user one-s, daily, monthly etc, I found few script and etc but that's not really nice there should be better way to do it |
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| 18:17.23 | abrotman | halt: not really |
| 18:18.36 | halt | abrotman: ok thanks, so I know what will be my first debian package then |
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| 18:19.22 | halt | i was planing to write something, but did not know yet what's will be usefull and also simple enoght |
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| 18:30.49 | echofox | ahoy, im making a debian server(waiting for the parts to arrive), wondering what tool i can use to display the servers cpu/ram/temps/network speeds on another computer(maybe even phone)...thanks |
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| 18:38.35 | ChrisH | echofox: Q1: why Q2: I never needed that :) xosview might show some nice stuff |
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| 18:39.33 | echofox | ChrisH, i like to monitor things. temps, cpu load, ram and such, and thanks, |
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| 18:46.26 | halt | echofox: if monitroing why don't you try out some monitoring system like zabbix or munin etc ? |
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| 18:46.51 | ChrisH | echofox: let me throw in omd here |
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| 18:47.18 | echofox | halt, im hoping to find something that has a conky layout to it. |
| 18:47.22 | halt | for exmple the zabbix has a web interface where all that info is avaible and also there is a mobile app for that |
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| 18:47.28 | echofox | perhaps one of those do. |
| 18:48.07 | halt | echofox: conky ? |
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| 18:49.22 | echofox | halt, i like the gui and feel of conky, and was hoping to find something similar to that to display my sever info. but i will look into zabbix, i like the sound of the web interface |
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| 18:53.19 | halt | echofox: you can get way more the performance values with monitoring, I use zabbix in 4 networks, monitoring over 400 server with it and I can recommend it, if you have a question to that, I could recommend they channel as well, quite active and helpful. |
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| 18:54.40 | ChrisH | echofox: conky is packaged for debian |
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| 18:56.08 | echofox | ChrisH, conky doesnt display pc info remotely either, id like something i can type the ip adress:port and have it display info. but ill settle with zabbix |
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| 19:03.13 | halt | ok and here is my question http://paste.debian.net/68796/ |
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| 19:05.05 | halt | what's wrong, there, i try to use samba mount but it's look like the module is not loaded in the kernel but do not know why or how to load |
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| 19:08.32 | BenNZ | halt: use mount -t cifs instead |
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| 19:10.07 | halt | BenNZ: hard to believe it was so simple, but you are right the cifs working, can you just highlight to me the difference ? |
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| 19:12.35 | BenNZ | halt: there is no /sbin/mount.smbfs |
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| 19:13.28 | BenNZ | halt: or at least not here |
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| 19:13.55 | halt | BenNZ: hmm ok will look into that, but it's wroking now with cifs |
| 19:14.34 | BenNZ | halt: using smbfs is depreciated , cifs replaced it |
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| 19:16.22 | halt | ok thanks! |
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| 19:19.06 | Janhouse | I can't find bluetoothctl in bluez or bluez-tools on raspbian. any ideas why? |
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| 19:19.37 | halt | then if I'm already here, one more question, every time when i startup my server and try to add my ssh key with ssh-add i have to run eval $("ssh-agent") just to make it work, but did not find it important enoght to debug it yet, and guees why it can't see the ssh agent ? |
| 19:20.33 | petern_ | Yeah you don't normally use ssh-agent on servers. |
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| 19:24.17 | mtn | Janhouse: wrong channel, you need a raspbian channel |
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| 19:41.37 | norbert_ | hi, I have a question: I can hear my hard disk rattle on and off for 5 or so seconds at a time, and I'm trying to figure out what's happening |
| 19:42.18 | norbert_ | so I tried iotop -o, but nothing shows up that runs 5 or so seconds at a time; just some small things (unless I start browsing or actually use my PC) |
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| 19:44.26 | D-Boy | Hello, How to 'disable' GUI on a debian (without removing it) so The desktop should boot only into CLI and when needed I can start X, reading about some solutions on SO : 'update-rc.d -f gdm3 remove' is enough ? |
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| 19:46.16 | norbert_ | D-Boy: you can probably change /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
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| 19:46.58 | norbert_ | I'm pretty sure you wouldn't need to remove any software |
| 19:47.19 | D-Boy | norbert_, changing that to let say /bin/true will prevent X or any X-related soft from running ? |
| 19:47.21 | abrotman | norbert_: rattle ? |
| 19:47.25 | abrotman | dpkg: tell D-Boy about nodm |
| 19:48.13 | D-Boy | thanks abrotman & norbert_ :) |
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| 19:48.59 | norbert_ | abrotman: yeah, "rattle" was a word I picked to describe the sound my hard disk appears to make when it's being accessed |
| 19:49.13 | norbert_ | like it's being accessed and loading stuff |
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| 19:49.24 | norbert_ | except iotop -o shows nothing that takes as long as the sound it |
| 19:49.26 | norbert_ | *is |
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| 19:50.14 | bl4ckdu5t | How do i enable a minimize window button on deb 7.2 gnome desktop? |
| 19:53.02 | mtn | bl4ckdu5t: gnome-tweak-tool |
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| 19:56.31 | bl4ckdu5t | Thanks mtn |
| 19:56.45 | mtn | bl4ckdu5t: yw |
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| 20:26.17 | trampel | hm... since "Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only", i'll whine here... is there any hope for a working xpdf in jessie? something with fontconfig borked it (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727070) thankee! |
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| 20:26.43 | mtn | trampel: try the correct server: irc.oftc.net |
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| 20:27.03 | tp43_ | What is the package for vim gui version, I install vim, vim-gtk and vim-gnome, but I can't find my gui version of vim |
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| 20:27.22 | trampel | mtn: oh. hnh. invite only on some servers and not others. i honestly would've never guessed. thanks. |
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| 20:27.42 | mtn | trampel: no the channel is on some servers and not others ;) |
| 20:27.50 | xand | trampel: that's a different irc network |
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| 20:28.28 | abrotman | tp43_: gvim ? |
| 20:28.34 | trampel | so you're saying if i see "(Channel is invite only)" that means i should change servers? |
| 20:28.46 | tp43_ | abrotman, thx |
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| 20:35.35 | wols | trampel: the channel here was made read only so that it couldn't be used. precisely cause people like you try to |
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| 20:36.10 | martin-_-_ | hi, whats the whitespace replacement in bash? i got a file named "scan (2).jpg" and i dont know how to replace " " |
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| 20:37.13 | trampel | wols: sorry. i apologize. foolish question. i'll shut-up now. |
| 20:37.14 | abrotman | martin-_-_: man rename ? |
| 20:38.00 | wols | nothing foolis, you just didn't know |
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| 20:38.48 | abrotman | martin-_-_: mv "scan (2).jpg" newfile.jpg |
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| 20:39.51 | matachi | Why does `sudo aptititude install` prompt me to install and remove a bunch of packages? `sudo aptitude upgrade` lists 0 packages |
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| 20:40.42 | martin-_-_ | ok i do it that way abatoo |
| 20:40.44 | martin-_-_ | abrotman, |
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| 20:41.53 | dondelelcaro | matachi: perhaps because the packages you are installing require newer versions which won't be installed because of your pinning setup, or similar. aptitude why foopkg; or similar will tell you what's going on. |
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| 20:44.00 | matachi | it says "Unable to find a reason to install g++-4.7." |
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| 20:47.50 | dondelelcaro | matachi: well, then there you go. But if you're asking to install g++-4.7, that's going to involve installing a lot of dependent packages. |
| 20:48.49 | matachi | but I'm not trying to install anything. I'm just typing `sudo aptitude install` and it asks me if I want to install and remove a bunch of packages |
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| 20:51.49 | mtn | matachi: the man page says: As a special case, “install” with no arguments will act on any stored/pending actions. |
| 20:52.19 | mtn | matachi: man pages are kinda handy, aren't they ;) |
| 20:52.24 | matachi | hmm |
| 20:52.27 | dondelelcaro | matachi: if you don't want to install anything, you can just run aptitude keep; |
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| 20:53.47 | matachi | but doesn't it have a reason to why it want to install "g++-4.7 gir1.2-gee-1.0 gnome-session-fallback libgmime2.6-cil libmx-bin libmx-common libstdc++6-4.7-dev python-zeitgeist ttf-marvosym"? |
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| 20:55.15 | dondelelcaro | matachi: presumably you selected them to be installed; you can see what is really going on if you run sudo aptitude; and press g; it'll show you why it thinks it should be installing all of those packages |
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| 20:55.48 | dondelelcaro | usually aptitude why; will also output them, but not if you've manually selected that package to install, and it wasn't installed as the result of some dependency |
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| 20:56.17 | blast_hardcheese | Do people actually use wajig? How does it stack up against straight aptitude? |
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| 20:57.48 | matachi | Hmm, I must have accidentally selected them. The aptitude terminal gui neither seems to know why I need them |
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| 20:58.30 | dondelelcaro | matachi: if it just says that you asked for them to be installed, then that's why they're being installed. If it doesn't say that it's upgrading, or automatically installing or removing them because of dependencies, then that's why |
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| 21:00.21 | matachi | It doesn't say much about the packages. Just "X will be installed." |
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| 21:11.09 | mycae | Hi, is there a way to force dpkg-buildpackage to just build. I've made some changes to a package, for which I need debug symbols, but dpkg-source says "aborting due to unexpected upstream changes". |
| 21:11.26 | mycae | I know there are changes, I made them. I just need the thing to build. |
| 21:11.58 | mycae | also, dpkg-source --commit (the suggestion) doesn't work. |
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| 21:16.02 | babilen | mycae: Ask in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net please |
| 21:16.24 | mycae | OK, but I don't want to upload, just debug a program.. |
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| 21:34.39 | mintux | oh yes i found it . mine is 1500 i have problem with sending email to yahoo and i've got lots of mail log with this message : status= deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: ... and i read somewhere it because of MTU number problem http://www.zimbra.com/forums/administrators/45286-solved-lot-mails-deferred-2.html |
| 21:34.46 | dash | my nic only had support added in linux 3.5 |
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| 21:38.16 | abrotman | dash: it would have a newer kernel, if the installer works today |
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| 21:40.53 | dash | abrotman: ok. wheezy is only 3.2 so i guess that's my only choice |
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| 21:59.16 | multi_io | which scripts are run when a USB tethered network interface (usb0) comes up? |
| 21:59.31 | multi_io | /etc/network/if-up.d/* it isn't. |
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| 22:07.53 | Gregor2 | hi bros |
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| 22:08.19 | Gregor2 | annyone knows how to mount a cd image in dosbox |
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| 22:09.25 | Penix | Gregor2: google does |
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| 22:09.49 | Penix | dosbox site has a guide |
| 22:10.25 | blubberdiblub | there's also documentation that comes with dosbox |
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| 22:11.03 | Aaron__ | hi i have a question I'm using virtualbox, but after a while my internet seems to be gone what seems to be the issue ? |
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| 22:13.24 | cast | anyone happen to know of any studies/stats comparing debian security teams time to respond to vulnerabilities vs other distros [most significantly red hat] |
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| 22:16.17 | MrMonkey311 | ooh... where should swap file names appear? not under the list given by mount |
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| 22:16.40 | Gregor2 | it says |
| 22:16.44 | blubberdiblub | MrMonkey311, "swapon -s" |
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| 22:17.06 | blubberdiblub | MrMonkey311, and "cat /proc/swaps" |
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| 22:17.32 | Gregor2 | use parameter -size bps,spc,hpc,cyl to specity geometry. |
| 22:17.39 | MrMonkey311 | blubberdiblub: great, thx! |
| 22:17.42 | Gregor2 | whitch one should i take? |
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| 22:20.09 | blubberdiblub | Gregor2, try the #dosbox channel |
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| 22:46.42 | brian12 | i tryed to install teamviewser and it sayed it depends on libc6 = <peticual version> when i tryed to install that peticualar version it said that it would have to remove most of the system. what to do? |
| 22:47.22 | abrotman | find teamviewer for your version of linux |
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| 22:47.37 | brian12 | abrotman: it was for my version of linux |
| 22:47.58 | brian12 | abrotman: or maybe i dont understand? |
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| 22:48.38 | abrotman | brian12: which linux are you using ? |
| 22:49.10 | brian12 | abrotman: 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 22:49.23 | brian12 | no no no not that hold in |
| 22:49.28 | brian12 | on* |
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| 22:50.13 | brian12 | im useing 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:50.57 | brian12 | abrotman: wait, if bolth of my laptops are running the same version why can one not install team viewer |
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| 22:51.10 | dcx | brian12: u install ia32-libs? |
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| 22:51.26 | abrotman | brian12: use a pastebin, show us the error |
| 22:51.26 | brian12 | dck i think i try |
| 22:51.37 | abrotman | ia32-libs is dead |
| 22:51.50 | dcx | not in stable |
| 22:52.06 | dcx | he need ia32-libs to run teamviewer in a 64 bits system |
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| 22:52.12 | dcx | i use that program too |
| 22:52.48 | abrotman | yes, ia32-libs is gone in stable |
| 22:52.54 | brian12 | http://paste.debian.net/68812/ |
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| 22:53.39 | brian12 | it is installed on my 5735z but not on acer |
| 22:53.48 | brian12 | same linux you see on paste |
| 22:53.55 | dcx | u need to install that deps |
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| 22:54.05 | dcx | like i said add multi arch works for me |
| 22:54.06 | abrotman | brian12: apt-get -f install |
| 22:54.59 | brian12 | abrotman: -f install tells me its going to remove teamviewer Y/N |
| 22:55.10 | brian12 | abrotman: i should do it? |
| 22:55.11 | abrotman | brian12: sorry, "aptitude -f install" .. |
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| 22:55.32 | abrotman | brian12: it will say the first time to remove teamviewer, say "n', then the next optoin shuld be to install dependencies |
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| 22:56.08 | brian12 | aboman: <3 |
| 22:56.26 | dvs | poor abrotma |
| 22:56.28 | dvs | n |
| 22:56.43 | brian12 | i didnt think to use aptitude lol |
| 22:56.53 | brian12 | thanks guys |
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| 23:01.22 | brian12 | shoot |
| 23:01.39 | brian12 | ist removeing everything! |
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| 23:02.37 | brian12 | its fubaring my system |
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| 23:08.07 | brian12 | abrotman: hey it removed nearly everything then installed diffrent versions of things and at the very end of all that it says its still have truble with ialibs and teamviewer |
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| 23:08.39 | brian12 | Errors were encountered while processing: ia32-libs-i386 ia32-libs teamviewer |
| 23:08.57 | abrotman | pastebin your sources.list |
| 23:09.06 | brian12 | ok |
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| 23:10.53 | brian12 | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/68813/ |
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| 23:13.54 | abrotman | that shouldn't have rmeoved your system |
| 23:14.27 | brian12 | it removed x |
| 23:14.32 | brian12 | and other stuff |
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| 23:15.06 | brian12 | http://paste.debian.net/68814/ |
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| 23:17.08 | Nik05 | brian12 you know that aptitude tells you what its going to do before you press y enter? |
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| 23:27.01 | brian12 | well, that shure was a step backwards. |
| 23:27.17 | brian12 | im reinstalling gdm3 gnome etc.. |
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| 23:28.51 | intx | hey, I just installed dovecot-pop3d, but I don't see an entry in /etc/init.d |
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| 23:32.34 | woshty | Is there a working debian package of irssi and the scripts somewhere? |
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| 23:36.36 | abrotman | I'm using the Debian irssi now |
| 23:36.41 | Supaplex | Irssi 0.8.15 (20100403) - http://irssi.org/ |
| 23:36.45 | Supaplex | me too ^^^^ |
| 23:36.53 | abrotman | intx: did you look at the normal dovecot init script? |
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| 23:37.02 | Supaplex | oh actually this is macports. my bad. (too many computers? hehehe) |
| 23:37.04 | intx | where is that? |
| 23:37.35 | Supaplex | intx: try dpkg -L dovecot-pop3d | grep /etc |
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| 23:41.09 | cx-index | intx: init belongs to dovecot-core. did you install it? |
| 23:42.07 | intx | yes |
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| 23:44.36 | cx-index | intx: well, that is weird. try apt-get install dovecot-core --reinstall |
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| 23:46.14 | intx | cx-index: alright, thanks |
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| 23:47.31 | abrotman | which won't put back the init script if he maually removed it |
| 23:49.28 | cx-index | purge then, perhaps? |
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| 23:50.09 | Hexeon | this thing is gonna run all day |
| 23:50.54 | donttrustem | hi . can anyone tell me where i can find this lib : Unable to locate package libminiupnpc-dev |
| 23:51.09 | woshty | abrotman: yeah, I am using irssi as well, but some things just won't work |
| 23:51.16 | abrotman | ? |
| 23:51.24 | donttrustem | I am using squeeze |
| 23:51.46 | abrotman | donttrustem: probably doesn't exist in squeeze |
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| 23:52.07 | donttrustem | hmm! . |
| 23:52.11 | abrotman | dpkg: tell donttrustem about bpo |
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| 23:52.27 | woshty | abrotman: do you use the gui interface in irssi to configure networks or the config file? |
| 23:52.45 | donttrustem | abrotman: are you talking about backports |
| 23:52.49 | abrotman | woshty: GUI ? |
| 23:52.51 | nf7 | Thinking about coming to Debian from Ubuntu, will I have a hard time? |
| 23:52.51 | abrotman | donttrustem: yes |
| 23:53.05 | donttrustem | OK .. will see where it is |
| 23:53.06 | abrotman | nf7: depends on your ability, fewer things are done magically |
| 23:53.12 | abrotman | donttrustem: see what the bot told you |
| 23:53.22 | LtL | donttrustem: its in backports - libminiupnpc-dev |
| 23:53.28 | woshty | abrotman: do you enter /network add etc. directly in irssi? |
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| 23:53.41 | abrotman | woshty: in the conf file, yes |
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| 23:54.11 | LtL | woshty: on the irssi cmd line works too, same thing really |
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| 23:54.44 | woshty | abrotman: yeah, I do edit the config file directly as well, which apparently is very bad .. |
| 23:54.54 | multi_io | what scripts are executed when a hotplugged network interface (usb0 specifcally) comes up? |
| 23:55.02 | abrotman | woshty: works fine for me |
| 23:55.22 | Nik05 | woshty if you dont mess it up |
| 23:56.49 | woshty | Nik05: I currently have an empty config file .. |
| 23:57.23 | Nik05 | if you start irssi it generates one |
| 23:57.26 | LtL | woshty: irssi.org explains all of this with examples |
| 23:57.36 | woshty | Nik05: It copies one .. |
| 23:57.51 | Nik05 | right sorry :P |
| 23:58.10 | Nik05 | so use that one |
| 23:58.32 | Nik05 | and dont mess up the config file ;) |
| 23:58.50 | woshty | Nik05: adding -autosendcmd does not seem to work with that either .. |
| 23:59.04 | woshty | Ah, wait .. |
