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| 00:20.53 | rryoumaa | if i do "aptitude search '~N~Astable'" will that include things that are in backports? |
| 00:22.21 | Scott0_ | has nullmailer started supporting SSL yet? |
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| 00:24.37 | rryoumaa | you can |
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| 00:32.54 | tony_lechner | Hey guys, having some trouble getting my wired connection to connect to my simple router. Just installed wheezy x64, and the network connection worked fine in the installer. Tried some simple tips I found via google (turning on network-manager for the connection, making sure eth0 is in /etc/network/interfaces, but to no avail. I have another machie |
| 00:32.55 | tony_lechner | n and phone on the router just fine, as well as another OS on the same machine able to use it. Any ideas? |
| 00:34.40 | ml604 | Any wine users in the room? I experience strange xrun like behavior when playing audio with wine apps running... |
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| 00:36.47 | william | ml604: I run pipeline for Netflix without any issues which runs Silverlight from wine. |
| 00:37.19 | william | But in that case the audio is from wine as well. |
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| 01:03.34 | petn-randall | tony_lechner: network-manager will ignore the interface if it is already configured in /etc/network/interfaces. |
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| 01:04.02 | petn-randall | tony_lechner: What does 'ifconfig -a' output for your on the wheezy machine? |
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| 01:05.05 | petn-randall | tony_lechner: There might be the slight chance that you have a ethernet interface that needs firmware. Do you know what chipset it is? You can find out with 'lspci -nn' |
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| 01:10.13 | civillian | Can anyone recommend a PC digital radio reciever that works nicely in Debian? |
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| 01:12.19 | dondelelcaro | civillian: I would naïvely think that one of the software defined radios would work for that |
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| 01:12.39 | dondelelcaro | civillian: see the gnu radio project for some information |
| 01:12.59 | charli | Hi, all. I have this problem bothers me a long time. The cursor shuold be back when the terminal is focused, hollow when unfocused. But sometimes mine don't work like this. I am using debian stable, awesome wm, laptop with a external moniter. Both gnome-terminal and sakura acts abnormal: mostly, stay hollow even after focused; occasionally, stay black after unfocused. Sometime switch `awesome tag` fix it, sometime have to open a new one. I think it may |
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| 01:14.19 | charli | Edit. I have this problem bothers me a long time. The cursor should be black when the terminal is focused, hollow when unfocused. But sometimes mine don't work like this. I am using debian stable, awesome wm, laptop with a external moniter. Both gnome-terminal and sakura acts abnormal: mostly, stay hollow even after focused; occasionally, stay black after unfocused. Sometime switch `awesome tag` fix it, sometime have to open a new one. I think it may b |
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| 01:15.39 | civillian | dondelelcaro: thanks, I will check that out |
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| 01:18.11 | tmallen | hi, i've got a weird thing. my debian stable host does not have resolvconf or NetworkManager installed, but edits I make to resolv.conf get clobbered |
| 01:22.17 | dondelelcaro | tmallen: are you using dhcp? |
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| 01:23.30 | stufs | hi can i ask . im using linux mint . and id like to hear an openion here. im having a problem like. when imd oing work within the box. iftop shows me all sorts of conections is that normal ? |
| 01:23.39 | stufs | like cononican and lots others. |
| 01:25.01 | tmallen | dondelelcaro: i think so, yea |
| 01:25.13 | tmallen | oh, i'll be back later! |
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| 01:25.59 | stufs | does debian do . internet activity when . not relating to internet and just working within the box ? |
| 01:26.10 | mrmoth | hey, I have a headless debian server with speakers connected to it. I'm trying to use speaker test to get sound to play out of it, currently logged in over ssh. Nothing's happening though! is there a way to get sound working this way? |
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| 01:27.23 | stew | stufs: internet activity, not relating to internet? |
| 01:27.42 | stufs | not relating to internet - when not doing work with internet involved |
| 01:27.54 | stew | stufs: how about ntpd? |
| 01:28.05 | stufs | working within the box . surfing brousing directory . reading texts watching videos . seeing ips activity in iftop |
| 01:28.14 | stew | mrmoth: /msg dpkg alsa checklist |
| 01:28.42 | hans_henrik | is there some tutorial to cuddle with cats? |
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| 01:29.02 | mrmoth | stew, checking it out! thanks |
| 01:29.06 | stew | hans_henrik: wrong channel, try #defocus |
| 01:29.19 | ctmjr | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:29.22 | mrmoth | stew, I heard adding yourself to the audio group was a wrong way to go about it..? |
| 01:29.26 | stew | stufs: using what protocol? udp? tcp? icmp? |
| 01:29.42 | stew | mrmoth: where did you hear that? |
| 01:29.48 | stew | that's what the audio group exists for |
| 01:29.56 | hans_henrik | i wish to make a custom bootable iso, with some pre-installed programs and some new inits |
| 01:30.07 | hans_henrik | any tutorials for that? |
| 01:30.12 | hans_henrik | of debian 7~ |
| 01:30.29 | stew | hans_henrik: /msg dpkg custom d-i |
| 01:30.30 | dondelelcaro | hans_henrik: that's what the debian live project is working on |
| 01:30.41 | stufs | not sure iftop isnt showing udp or tcp or . .... |
| 01:30.42 | hans_henrik | ok, thanks |
| 01:30.50 | stufs | i just see the kbs . |
| 01:30.54 | stufs | dbs mooves |
| 01:30.57 | stufs | kbs |
| 01:32.09 | stufs | using iftraf . shows udp |
| 01:32.16 | hans_henrik | dondelelcaro, "debian live project"? |
| 01:32.56 | abrotman | live.debian.net |
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| 01:33.57 | mrmoth | stew, I tried running aplay under root with no luck :s |
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| 01:40.43 | mrmoth | stew, installed pulse and everything works now. x: |
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| 02:00.24 | adamu | HI |
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| 02:03.50 | Neozonz | how do i add dynamic text to motd that changes upon logon? |
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| 02:11.48 | Akuw | what command can i use to know if tcp port 8080 is used? |
| 02:11.57 | Akuw | and how to stop that process |
| 02:12.30 | adamu | netstat -a | grep LISTEN |
| 02:12.34 | vipintruder | Neozonz: /var/run/motd |
| 02:12.57 | Neozonz | how to i add to it upon logon tho? |
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| 02:13.34 | kuber | does anyone know of a nice lightweight tool to manage multiple monitors - something outside of kde/gnome? I generally use openbox without any desktop manager... |
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| 02:14.30 | kuber | i can always use xrandr, but a super simple x tool would be nice |
| 02:14.31 | zykotick9 | kuber: arandr is "fairly" light, if you're still looking for a gui |
| 02:14.48 | SPF | Akuw: if you use netstat -nalep for example, it will display the PID which is using the port |
| 02:14.59 | kuber | thanks zykotick9, I'll check that out |
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| 02:15.57 | Akuw | tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* ESCUCHAR 118 16389 - |
| 02:17.45 | vipintruder | Neozonz: For example you can make 3 diferent files and then you can change the symbolic link located in /etc/motd using crontab. |
| 02:17.47 | kuber | zykotick9: thanks, this is exactly what I was looking for |
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| 02:17.52 | Akuw | how to kill that? |
| 02:18.06 | Neozonz | just want to add a file to display |
| 02:18.09 | Neozonz | after motd |
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| 02:20.57 | Tramp | Akuw: use "ss -alntp" or "netstat -nlp" to see process and PID of the listener |
| 02:20.58 | vipintruder | Neozonz: Just edit /var/run/motd or /etc/motd. I don't remember where is it. |
| 02:21.10 | zykotick9 | kuber: glad to help |
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| 02:22.08 | SPF | Akuw: are you running netstat as user? if you run it as root you will see the PID, try sudo netstat |
| 02:22.22 | Akuw | PID/Program name is a "-" |
| 02:22.51 | SPF | "-" means you do not have permission to see it |
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| 02:23.20 | Akuw | ok |
| 02:23.29 | Akuw | i run using sudo |
| 02:23.33 | Akuw | all ok |
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| 02:27.25 | Akuw | well, i am getting java.lang.NullPointerException |
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| 02:41.09 | SirvK | Hello, I just installed Debian, I get this error message "GNOME 3 Failed to Load |
| 02:41.12 | SirvK | Unfortunately GNOME 3 failed to start properly and started in the fallback mode. |
| 02:41.14 | SirvK | This most likely means your system (graphics hardware or driver) is not capable of delivering the full GNOME 3 experience." |
| 02:41.22 | SirvK | My GPU is R9 270x |
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| 02:41.55 | dvs | SirvK: That GPU is just too new to be recognized. |
| 02:42.22 | SirvK | Can I still mine litecoins with it? |
| 02:42.29 | SirvK | or do I have to do that on windows? |
| 02:42.52 | SirvK | ubuntu runs fine too actually |
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| 02:44.34 | paco | I know that wine icons are in ~/.local/share/icons, and if I remove that folder, they disappear from thunar. So the question is: where are the configuration mime files that point to ~/.local/share/icons, if they aren't in ~/.local/share/mime and ~/.local/share/applications ? |
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| 02:46.29 | SirvK | Can someone help me get gnome 3 working with my card? |
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| 02:50.53 | dvs | SirvK: Downloading the latest backport kernel would be your best hope. |
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| 02:58.56 | SirvK | dvs, which package from the backport do I need? |
| 02:59.19 | dvs | SirvK: linux-image-??? |
| 02:59.37 | SirvK | ??? ? |
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| 03:00.20 | abrotman | ARGH SO MANY QUESTION MARKS |
| 03:01.04 | dvs | SirvK: linux-image-3.10-0.bpo.3-amd64 |
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| 03:03.48 | dvs | abrotman: What do you mean??? |
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| 03:06.25 | abrotman | looks at all the ? |
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| 03:11.00 | SirvK | °?° |
| 03:11.07 | SirvK | I was already running a newer version of that |
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| 03:12.19 | SirvK | Ok, I installed linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 03:12.34 | SirvK | what should I do now? |
| 03:12.47 | dvs | reboot? |
| 03:13.01 | Penix | really?? |
| 03:13.08 | SirvK | alright, thanks for the help. |
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| 03:16.22 | Jennifer36 | anyone have any idea how to get around hdparm not issuing certian commands to a virtual drive in virtual box? |
| 03:16.38 | Jennifer36 | testing mdadm, and i can't force bad sectors on a virtual drive... |
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| 03:30.26 | Viscount | any decent debian tools someone learning python needs these days? happily playing with nano and python test.py atm |
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| 03:34.05 | ectospasm | I don't remember if nano has syntax highlighting, but I'm positive vim and Emacs do |
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| 03:34.14 | ectospasm | probably many other editors, too |
| 03:34.16 | hikenboot | hello I have a text file with a 40,000 words in the format "someword",<space><space><space><space,"nextword"... I am trying to copy it into a C language .c extention file in a certain place. Problem is I cant seem to get gedit to highlight and copy the 40,000 words. It wont load the whole file. Is there another linux gui text editor I can use for this? |
| 03:36.37 | Jennifer36 | vi |
| 03:36.57 | themill | hikenboot: is this all on one line? |
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| 03:42.30 | jarray52 | I ran `dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update` on my 64-bit machine. Is this going to totally bork my configuration? |
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| 03:51.11 | hikenboot | themill, I figured it out, I think yes its all on one line |
| 03:51.42 | hikenboot | I broke the file in two pieces before and after then cat'ed the three files together |
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| 03:55.26 | themill | hikenboot: there are plenty of editors that will complain about a single line that is close to a million characters long, let alone humans who have to deal with it. I'm not saying you have to wrap it at 80 columns, but you might like to consider a different storage format here, perhaps not even embedding it in the C at all. |
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| 03:56.53 | hikenboot | thanks themill I appreciate your honesty. I am not a c programmer and I am just trying to do a quick hack to get the program to work with a differnet word list |
| 03:57.10 | themill | no worries -- good luck with it |
| 03:57.23 | hans_henrik | the tftpd package in debian 7.2 seems broken |
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| 03:58.09 | hans_henrik | specifically, the tftpd server binary itself seems missing (amd64 build anyway) |
| 03:58.28 | hans_henrik | could any1 try to confirm? |
| 03:58.50 | themill | looks fine to me |
| 03:59.00 | hans_henrik | damit |
| 03:59.15 | hans_henrik | maybe its the stupid french mirror |
| 03:59.27 | themill | no, apt wouldn't let you install a corrupted package |
| 04:01.14 | arthurfiggis | did anyone else have any troubles upgrading to the 319.x line of nvidia drivers in wheezy-backports recently? :( when i upgraded the nearest i could figure out was that when dkms was trying to build the kernel module it couldn't find the kernel sources...i don't have the specific error on hand at the moment though, using mint 16 on a laptop |
| 04:01.37 | hans_henrik | umm |
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| 04:06.26 | hans_henrik | (Possibly fucked up somhow, carefull); size 16970 and sha256 "bdea89d5ad3e40decb28a8e2019a1e1e60f1443a9cdd9659af2a0422189f8307" , http://4chanx.org/hans/temp/tftpd_0.17-18_amd64.deb |
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| 04:06.36 | themill | arthurfiggis: did you also install the linux-headers-$(uname -r) package? |
| 04:07.03 | hans_henrik | any idea if that matches the offical repo's vsftpd package? |
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| 04:07.33 | themill | hans_henrik: that's exactly the same package that is on the mirror network. As I said, apt doesn't let you install corrupted packages |
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| 04:09.07 | arthurfiggis | themill: as far as I can remember i had that and linux sources installed for 3.2...perhaps it wanted the ones from 3.10 from the backported kernel? although i wasn't using that...hmm, i'll have to check |
| 04:09.58 | themill | arthurfiggis: you need to make sure you have the headers package that matches your kernel, yes. You might like to install the linux-image-* and linux-headers-* metapackages to ensure that they get upgraded together |
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| 04:12.04 | arthurfiggis | themill: i'll have to give that a try in a virtual machine to see if i can get it working that way...it's a bit of a minor hiccup that has me temporarily trying to fix debian rather than using it, but hopefully it's easily resolved :) i'll try manually installing those as well thanks |
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| 04:35.38 | arthurfiggis | themill: oh, incidentally, if you happen to know :) when i last tried and had problems, to install the nvidia driver, i was using 'apt-get -t wheezy-backports install nvidia-driver' to pull it in...would it be better to just use nvidia-kernel-dkms? |
| 04:35.58 | arthurfiggis | or does it make a difference? nvidia-driver is just a metapackage for a bunch of bits and pieces...i think |
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| 04:37.32 | wols | arthurfiggis: it will be the same |
| 04:38.43 | arthurfiggis | wols: ahh, ok...hopefully whatever the problem was i was having was just a temporary one then, but once i get wheezy reinstalled i'll have to check and make sure that the right linux-headers was installed too |
| 04:39.18 | themill | that may have forced some older versions of the nvidia package to be upgraded to the backports versions but otherwise shouldn't make a difference |
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| 04:40.48 | szaus18 | I need a debian/wheezy/ppc root filesystem, no need the installer or ISO, is there something like that (debian-ppc-core.tar.gz) to download, or I have to use debootstrap to make one? |
| 04:42.23 | themill | szaus18: debian tends not to prepare base filesystems for download -- debootstrap does that all for you quite nicely (and can do so for a different architecture with the help of qemu if you need to) |
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| 04:44.13 | szaus18 | themill: thanks. just want to confirm, i used to do debootstrap --second-stage for that |
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| 04:44.28 | themill | yeah |
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| 04:50.58 | eblip | if i list my history |
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| 04:51.09 | eblip | howdo i execute a command using the number |
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| 04:53.58 | overdub | eblip, !number |
| 04:54.15 | eblip | thanks overdub |
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| 04:55.56 | nexutix | sigh. chrome webstore now requires you to sign in to download extensions. that's horrible! |
| 04:57.57 | wols | welcome to google |
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| 04:58.27 | szaus18 | what's the diff between qemu-ppc64abi32 and qemu-ppc on debian? |
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| 04:59.22 | szaus18 | qemu-ppc is ppc32 I think, i'm using a 64bit ppc, but want to use 32bit rootfs, should i use qemu-ppc or qemu-ppc64abi32,could not google anything on that |
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| 05:03.26 | socomm | nexutix: you lost me at chrome |
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| 05:04.53 | nexutix | socomm: i am using chromium. but webstore for both are same. that just sucks. |
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| 05:05.24 | szaus18 | qemu-ppc-static: /tmp/buildd/qemu-1.1.2+dfsg/linux-user/signal.c:4341: setup_frame: Assertion `({ unsigned long __guest = (unsigned long)(ka->_sa_handler) - guest_base; (__guest < (1ul << 32)) && (!reserved_va || (__guest < reserved_va)); })' failed. |
| 05:05.27 | szaus18 | Aborted |
| 05:05.29 | szaus18 | what the |
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| 05:21.41 | socomm | szaus18: pls don't paste directly into channel |
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| 05:28.50 | nexutix | does anyone know how I can set custom window-class via CLI to firefox? |
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| 05:35.05 | nexutix | ok found it --class= |
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| 05:38.43 | nanicoar | A .so file instealled in /usr/lib64/ when it should have gone into /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/. Is there a recommended fix? Can I symlink the directory? |
| 05:39.29 | well_laid_lawn | try it and see |
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| 05:39.55 | nanicoar | How adventurous. |
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| 05:44.13 | nanicoar | found /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ |
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| 05:48.23 | folken_ | Hi everyone |
| 05:49.05 | folken_ | I'd like to install Debian on Virtualbox but the i386 arch doesn't seem to work and crashes the virualbox |
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| 05:58.10 | pastor_ | I am using debian wheezy and when i issue the command sudo apt-get install apache2-dev , it shows "Unable to locate package apache2-dev". Can anybody give me a solution to this. It is urgent for me. Please |
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| 06:01.21 | LtL | pastor_: try apt-cache search apache2-dev - see if that returns anything |
| 06:02.15 | nexutix | that package is only available in squeeze, jessie and sid. http://packages.debian.org/sid/apache2-dev |
| 06:02.47 | LtL | maybe backports has it |
| 06:03.28 | pastor_ | LtL: So, there is no way i can install it in wheezy ? |
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| 06:04.38 | LtL | pastor_: if its backported, yes. as far as getting it from jessie or sid i can't say but i doubt it will work. |
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| 06:05.16 | pastor_ | LtL: Ok, thanks |
| 06:06.57 | wols | you should have pointed him to apache2-prefork-dev and apache2-threaded-dev |
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| 06:07.59 | LtL | wols: i was working on a search, he laft too quick |
| 06:08.09 | LtL | left* |
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| 06:08.49 | ffog | does the default version of tail in debian not have -r reverse? |
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| 06:09.42 | themill | ffog: perhaps you want tac |
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| 06:17.07 | peterrooney | ffog: what operating system DOES have such a version? |
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| 06:17.30 | themill | solaris does (or did) |
| 06:17.46 | OpenTokix | What is the expected output? |
| 06:17.53 | ffog | bsd, aix, others i suppose |
| 06:18.03 | ffog | just displays in reverse |
| 06:18.09 | peterrooney | themill: ok, ok, I should have said what linux distribution. |
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| 06:18.35 | OpenTokix | ffog: so tail blah |sort -r ? |
| 06:19.00 | ffog | well i'm following so tail -f -r file |
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| 06:19.25 | OpenTokix | So it writes the new line on top? |
| 06:19.25 | ffog | maybe this doesn't work =\ |
| 06:19.25 | themill | OpenTokix: print in the reverse order isn't the same as sort in the reverse order |
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| 06:20.04 | OpenTokix | themill: I know, just wondering what the expected output is. Very curious of stuff I cant see a direct usage for. |
| 06:20.11 | ffog | right, but I'm thinking of something else, -f -r is no good |
| 06:20.36 | OpenTokix | themill: and to understand the wanted output - maybe there is some way |
| 06:20.54 | themill | OpenTokix: sure, tac reverses lines |
| 06:21.27 | nexutix | i have two instances of iceweasel running. one is default profile, other is profile1. how do open new tab in specific profile via terminal |
| 06:21.28 | nexutix | ? |
| 06:21.47 | ffog | I was trying to figure out how to use tail -f with new lines on top |
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| 06:24.01 | OpenTokix | themill: but tac dont work for tail -f |
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| 06:25.21 | sten_ | I don't think tail -f will work in reverse. it only adds new lines below. for adding new lines at the top the complete screen needs to be updated. this would be like watch tac file |
| 06:25.23 | themill | OpenTokix: indeed. the combination of -r and -f with tail was always problematic |
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| 06:26.16 | OpenTokix | but if you use watch, you can use sort -r |
| 06:26.30 | themill | sorting is going to be the wrong thing to do here |
| 06:26.32 | OpenTokix | Depends how many lines it is, if its like one line every couple of seconds, watch would work |
| 06:26.39 | OpenTokix | if its 1000 line per second, not so much =) |
| 06:26.53 | themill | my memory is that -r and -f were mutually exclusive |
| 06:27.05 | ffog | that is true |
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| 06:27.26 | ffog | i think i'm just fighting the direction the terminal flows |
| 06:27.46 | OpenTokix | ffog: sounds like it, yes |
| 06:27.55 | OpenTokix | ffog: maybe there is some nifty curses tool for it |
| 06:28.21 | ffog | hmm |
| 06:29.20 | OpenTokix | ffog: like multitail or something, dont know if that particular program have that function - but maybe |
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| 06:30.54 | nonconvergent | Hey. |
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| 06:32.25 | nonconvergent | I found a script in someone's source project for building debs and it relies on tools I'm not familiar with/don't have/can't find. |
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| 06:34.20 | nonconvergent | https://github.com/tuxpoldo/btsync-deb/blob/master/make-all-debs.sh |
| 06:35.07 | enuguri | hi I am trying to create a raid 10 drive using megacli but it fails can anyone help me what would be wrong with my command |
| 06:35.21 | enuguri | megacli -CfgSpanAdd -r10 -Array0[15:5,15:6,15:7] -Array1[15:8,15:9,15:10] WB RA Direct NoCachedBadBBU -strpsz512 -a0 |
| 06:35.27 | nonconvergent | debuild? |
| 06:35.31 | nonconvergent | destarch? |
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| 06:36.04 | themill | nonconvergent: debuild is a standard building tool |
| 06:36.14 | nonconvergent | themill: What package is it in? |
| 06:36.22 | themill | apt-file is your friend |
| 06:37.06 | sten_ | I have read+experienced that the discard mount option slows down a ssd. so I wrote a script to find ssd partitions and trim them using cron. how do I best make it useful for others using debian? |
| 06:38.05 | themill | sten_: perhaps talking to the laptop-mode-tools people would be best |
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| 06:39.03 | sten_ | themill: wouldn't they not want it b/c it's not laptop specific? |
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| 06:39.49 | themill | sten_: don't know, but they have a few other tools there that are about not thrashing disks around which are useful for running on SSDs |
| 06:40.37 | sten_ | themill: true. and if they don't want it, they might know someone else to contact. thanks for the idea! |
| 06:41.16 | themill | yeah, wild stab in the dark from me |
| 06:42.40 | sten_ | better than nothing! |
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| 06:44.57 | sten_ | ha, there is a laptop-mode mailing list! |
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| 06:50.04 | aarcane | hey, about a decade ago, maybe a little less, there was a website dedicated to hosting Linux Desktop screenshots... Anyone remember what it is or was called? |
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| 06:53.07 | cff | Hello, I want to forward all traffic that comes from my wireless access point connect to my PC to my own computer ? How can I do that if I have these iptables rules: iptables -v --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface $2 --jump MASQUERADE and iptables -v --append FORWARD --in-interface $1 --jump ACCEPT |
| 06:53.17 | cff | I've tried with iptables -v --table nat --append PREROUTING --source 192.168.3.0/24 --protocol tcp --dport 80 --jump DNAT --to-destination 192.168.2.40:8080 but it doesn't work |
| 06:53.23 | cff | I'm using dnsmasq and hostapd |
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| 06:53.47 | cff | on my local machine to give IP addresses to the clients connected to the AP |
| 06:54.06 | cff | and hostapd to createa a software access point |
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| 06:56.08 | cff | So how can I forward traffic coming from the wlan0 interface to my 192.168.2.40 PC ? |
| 06:56.40 | cff | with the rules above the traffic from wlan0 is forwarded to eth0 |
| 06:57.31 | cff | Should I use a DNS forwarder (dnsmasq) or iptables for this? |
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| 07:35.13 | jameshyde | are you aware that shmem page cache could not be freed by kernel? |
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| 07:52.02 | afidegnum | I am trying to install bitcoin on debian and I am running gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys D46F45428842CE5 I am faced with error. <i>"D46F45428842CE5" not a key ID: skipping </i> |
| 07:52.48 | afidegnum | any answer ? |
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| 07:55.43 | helmut | afidegnum: maybe try the right half of the keyid |
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| 07:56.39 | afidegnum | ok ok checking |
| 07:57.41 | afidegnum | helmut: it also didn't worked out |
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| 08:01.49 | helmut | afidegnum: wait. your keyid has an odd number of digits |
| 08:01.58 | helmut | afidegnum: that's a copy&paste error |
| 08:02.16 | afidegnum | ok, |
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| 08:35.09 | pengunix | Hi! |
| 08:35.12 | pengunix | It is me again :) |
| 08:35.48 | pengunix | So I got that sudo problem. When using sudo as normal user (which is in group sudo), I get three times Sorry, try again. without any password prompt. |
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| 08:36.07 | pengunix | First I want to find out if this is a sudo or a pam (unix) related problem. |
| 08:36.20 | pengunix | For this I have to make the logs more verbose. But how to make them more verbose? |
| 08:36.25 | well_laid_lawn | is a key stuck on the keyboard ? |
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| 08:49.50 | pengunix | well_laid_lawn: no, I am sure about that. |
| 08:50.06 | well_laid_lawn | ok, was just aq guess |
| 08:50.15 | well_laid_lawn | s/aq/a/ |
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| 08:54.05 | suy | I've installed debian on a PC that had only windows 7. Is booting fine, but there is no windows entry in grub. I can boot windows throught the bios (e.g. pressing the key that shows a menu, where it appears some windows entry; I think is an EFI feature?) |
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| 08:54.57 | Penix | suy: is windows on a separate drive? |
| 08:55.13 | suy | os-prober is not finding windows, though, so how should I proceed? I tried manually adding things that seem to work for others: 1) the one that ends in chainloader +1, and the other that seems to select a *.efi file |
| 08:55.22 | suy | Penix: no, same disk |
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| 08:56.08 | Penix | suy: chainloader is what you'd want. is windows on the first drive? in other words, is the linux installation on /dev/sdb and windows on sda? |
| 08:56.14 | Penix | sorry, first partition |
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| 08:56.49 | Penix | meh. linux on sda2. windows on sda1?... |
| 08:57.00 | suy | windows is in sda3, efi on sda1, and debian on sda6 |
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| 08:57.25 | Penix | suy: might just need to manually add a windows entry to grub, for whatever reason |
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| 08:58.32 | suy | Penix: thank you. I've attempted previously a chainloader +1 in grub's console. But it complained about the lack of "bootmgr" or similar(?). How can I find the proper previous parameters? |
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| 08:59.22 | suy | maybe I lacked an insmod ntfs |
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| 09:01.05 | Penix | suy: something like 'hd0, msdos1', depending on your setup |
| 09:01.28 | Penix | suy: that's if your windows partition is untouched after the linux install |
| 09:01.36 | Penix | which it should be |
| 09:01.54 | suy | I think so. Let me reboot and try. |
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| 09:03.48 | Penix | suy: not sure if it'll help, but a bit of googling mentions the windows parition needing to be set as 'bootable'. not sure how much it actually matters |
| 09:03.50 | pengunix | https://wiki.debian.org/ReduceDebian |
| 09:03.53 | pengunix | dash (replaces bash, this currently breaks) |
| 09:03.58 | pengunix | huh? Dash is default on wheezy? |
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| 09:04.10 | Penix | pengunix: been default for a few releases IIRC |
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| 09:05.03 | Hagbardceline | Hello and good morning, is everyone here the can me help with oldstable an unattended upgrades? |
| 09:05.42 | Penix | suy: in my case, the smaller 'efi' parition (or whatever) is set to msdos 'bootable'. been a while since I've regularly dealt with dualboot window stuff though |
| 09:06.03 | Penix | Hagbardceline: what do you mean? |
| 09:06.37 | wols | !tell Hagbardceline about anyone |
| 09:07.08 | pengunix | Penix: so the documentation is outdated? |
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| 09:08.56 | Hagbardceline | Penix i have a debian oldstable system an want to install only security updates but only in a configuration that make not sense for me it works |
| 09:08.59 | Penix | pengunix: possibly. seems that squeeze was the first with dash as default...so only the previous release |
| 09:09.15 | Penix | though it was standard in lenny, but doesn't seem like it |
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| 09:10.34 | Penix | Hagbardceline: so, basically you wan't security updates for oldstable? |
| 09:10.42 | suy | Penix: I've failed. :-( I got the "missing bootmgr" message. I'm not very used to this dualbooting either. I'll keep googling. In your case, you have an efi partition, right? |
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| 09:11.03 | suy | (oh, I'll try the making partition bootable too) |
| 09:11.19 | Hagbardceline | penix yes |
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| 09:11.55 | Penix | suy: well, it's some sort of 'system' partition that windows 7 has always used. seems like it's the one that might handle the bootloader responsibilities. it's set as bootable |
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| 09:13.04 | jelly | dpkg, tell Hagbardceline about squeeze sources.list |
| 09:13.09 | Penix | Hagbardceline: then you should just need the security updates repo in your sources.list |
| 09:13.33 | Penix | Hagbardceline: the updates stop after a year or so afaik |
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| 09:13.50 | jelly | 6 months still to go |
| 09:14.05 | themill | or only 6 months to go, depending on how you want to look at it |
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| 09:14.28 | jelly | would rather not look at all, but |
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| 09:15.03 | Penix | can't keep up with release numbers these days, since we jumped on the major-version-bump bandwagon |
| 09:15.13 | Penix | bring back the rN releases, I say |
| 09:15.38 | Hagbardceline | Penix i know it only a question of time before we update the system but until then i want automatic security updates or is my mindset false and security updates are the only updates? |
| 09:15.55 | Penix | Hagbardceline: yes, security updates for oldstable are all you'll get |
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| 09:17.59 | Hagbardceline | Penix im not yet so familiar with debian. Thankyou for the answer the solves my problem. Thank you |
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| 09:21.10 | afidegnum | hello, please I seriously need help, can anyone direct me to proper bitcoin wallet setup on debian/ubuntu? |
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| 09:23.27 | Penix | afidegnum: search for 'bitcoin wallet debian' on google. whole bunch of results |
| 09:23.54 | afidegnum | yes, the results are confusing |
| 09:24.12 | e1z0 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:24.26 | themill | afidegnum: you might want to decide whether you're asking about debian or ubuntu; the answers aren't necessarily the same. |
| 09:25.02 | e1z0 | лохаи ! |
| 09:25.18 | afidegnum | ok, so you mean hte debian and ubuntu repos are the same ? |
| 09:25.28 | e1z0 | the same shit |
| 09:25.46 | themill | e1z0: do you have a debian user support question we can help you with? |
| 09:25.46 | e1z0 | debian = good, utumbu = bad |
| 09:25.53 | wols | afidegnum: no we mean they are not the same at all and advice for one doesn't apply to the other |
| 09:25.54 | themill | afidegnum: no, they aren't |
| 09:26.20 | e1z0 | themill, i have brains on my head |
| 09:26.25 | e1z0 | instead of you |
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| 09:26.36 | Penix | if you say so |
| 09:26.39 | afidegnum | ah, this is what i am having |
| 09:26.41 | afidegnum | E: Unable to locate package bitcoin-qt |
| 09:27.00 | jelly | ,v bitcoin-qt |
| 09:27.01 | e1z0 | afidegnum, well, use brains |
| 09:27.01 | judd | Package: bitcoin-qt on i386 -- sid: 0.8.5-1 |
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| 09:27.08 | themill | e1z0: play elsewhere |
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| 09:27.36 | afidegnum | I am using amd 86 |
| 09:27.49 | afidegnum | no, amd 64 bit |
| 09:27.56 | jelly | ,v bitcoin-qt --arch amd64 |
| 09:27.58 | judd | Package: bitcoin-qt on amd64 -- sid: 0.8.5-1 |
| 09:27.59 | Penix | afidegnum: are you using a proper debian repo? or an ubuntu one? |
| 09:28.09 | afidegnum | using the ubuntu one |
| 09:28.17 | Penix | there's your first problem |
| 09:28.19 | wols | afidegnum: then we cannot help you |
| 09:28.23 | themill | and this is why you ask #ubuntu for help when you're using ubuntu... |
| 09:28.36 | jelly | afidegnum: you'll have to make a backport if you want that package in Debian stable |
| 09:28.48 | afidegnum | no, I am on debian and looking for the debian or equivalent package |
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| 09:29.02 | jelly | dpkg, tell afidegnum about ssb |
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| 09:31.49 | afidegnum | BTW, pls remind me, how do we extract the tar.gz file again? |
| 09:32.00 | Penix | man tar |
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| 09:34.53 | BONG_IT | good day guys may i ask how to solve error initramfs |
| 09:35.14 | Penix | BONG_IT: yes, go ahead |
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| 09:35.48 | BONG_IT | how can i fix error in debian initramfs? |
| 09:35.57 | Penix | BONG_IT: ask a specific question |
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| 09:37.10 | BONG_IT | like this problem http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t127/goldentiger24/boot-02.jpg |
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| 09:39.03 | Penix | BONG_IT: did you check the things mentioned in the error output? |
| 09:39.45 | BONG_IT | just like that error sir |
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| 09:39.53 | BONG_IT | sorry for my grammar im a filipino |
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| 09:41.34 | BONG_IT | how to fix thaht |
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| 09:48.21 | BONG_IT | anyone can teach me how to fix initramfs error |
| 09:49.28 | Penix | BONG_IT: well, does the device node mentioned in the error output actually exist? |
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| 09:52.40 | BONG_IT | wat niode |
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| 10:06.40 | sisyphu | sorry for my ignorance. how can I stop bad guys occupying bandwidth in LAN? |
| 10:07.02 | bhuddah | rubber hose. |
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| 10:07.30 | bhuddah | or you can do traffic shaping and bandwidth accounting, sisyphu |
| 10:07.50 | well_laid_lawn | you need to control the router |
| 10:07.51 | jelly | sisyphu: implement 802.3x authentication -- don't let bad guys in |
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| 10:08.34 | jelly | sorry, 802.1X |
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| 10:10.16 | sisyphu | sorry, TLS authentication? |
| 10:10.38 | bhuddah | why tls? |
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| 10:13.15 | jelly | this isn't really a Debian question, is it |
| 10:13.51 | sisyphu | Sorry for my ignorance of transport layer |
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| 10:14.22 | sisyphu | this could be a Debian question |
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| 10:14.25 | jelly | 802.1X is below transport, at layer 2 |
| 10:14.42 | jelly | (-ish) |
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| 10:33.06 | dep_ | PP |
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| 10:33.49 | goestin | Hi everyone, can i ask a question about a apt mirror here? |
| 10:35.29 | goestin | why is in a apt mirror the "pool" subdir not divided in subdirs per version like the "dists" dir? |
| 10:35.41 | goestin | eg: |
| 10:35.51 | goestin | ./dists/squeeze |
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| 10:35.58 | goestin | ./dists/wheezy |
| 10:36.00 | goestin | and |
| 10:36.04 | bhuddah | because it is a pool |
| 10:36.25 | goestin | bhuddah: ack, let me rephrase that question |
| 10:36.34 | goestin | "what is a definition of a pool"? |
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| 10:36.49 | babilen | goestin: Because it is not necessary. The pool of packages is simply that and there will only be one version per package version. The dists are an organisational structure on top of that. |
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| 10:37.31 | babilen | A subdivision would simply introduce the need to save some packages multiple times without any additional benefit. |
| 10:37.37 | bhuddah | a pool is a large uniform dump of things. |
| 10:37.48 | babilen | (typically filled with water) |
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| 10:38.04 | goestin | babilen: so the pool is the same for squeeze, wheezy and others? |
| 10:38.29 | bhuddah | no. there is just one pool |
| 10:38.43 | babilen | goestin: The packages *in the pool* belong to different releases though. |
| 10:39.41 | goestin | ah, so all the packages generated for any version of debian will also be dumped in the pool? |
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| 10:40.41 | babilen | goestin: The pool simply contains the packages in Debian. Imposing additional structure like releases is done on-top of that and does not have to be reflected in the structure of the pool itself. |
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| 10:42.47 | goestin | babilen: i am sorry for not getting my brain around this. Do i need or do i not need to mirror both pools from a squeeze mirror and a wheezy mirror |
| 10:42.50 | goestin | ? |
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| 10:43.23 | bhuddah | goestin: i have no idea what you are talking about. |
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| 10:45.19 | goestin | bhuddah: I am creating a mirror inside an organisation. This organisation has both squeeze and wheezy servers. So i want to mirror the apt repositories for both versions. now the the "dists" directories are easy i make a dir "<organisation>/dists/<debian version>" |
| 10:45.30 | babilen | goestin: It might help if you could tell us what you are trying to achieve -- A pool is simply a collection of packages. Say you have two packages, A and B. You have A version 0.1. and 0.2. and version 1.0 of B. Release foo contains A 0.2 and B 1.0 while release bar only contains A 0.1 -- You naturally only need A 0.1 for bar, but all three packages are saved in the pool. |
| 10:45.48 | babilen | dpkg: Which tool are you using for mirroring? |
| 10:45.49 | dpkg | okay, babilen |
| 10:45.50 | bhuddah | goestin: i think the approach is not very wise. it would be better to have a proxy and just download an cache what you need. |
| 10:45.54 | jelly | goestin: just use the ftpsync tool instead of worrying about the mirror layout |
| 10:46.05 | babilen | goestin: Which tool are you using for mirroring? |
| 10:46.06 | bhuddah | goestin: probably you don't need 9/10th of that mirror. |
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| 10:46.26 | goestin | babilen, bhuddah: thanks i get it now ok. i think i have an error in my setup then :) |
| 10:46.32 | goestin | jelly: apt-mirror |
| 10:46.47 | bhuddah | goestin: how many servers? |
| 10:46.56 | goestin | >50 |
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| 10:47.16 | bhuddah | so only a few. don't use an own mirror then. |
| 10:47.52 | goestin | bhuddah: you just hurt my feelings ;) |
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| 10:48.00 | OpenTokix | goestin, bhuddah: haha |
| 10:48.07 | OpenTokix | oh snap! |
| 10:48.19 | babilen | A caching proxy might also make sense |
| 10:48.23 | bhuddah | goestin: i'm sowwy. |
| 10:48.26 | bhuddah | babilen++ |
| 10:48.42 | goestin | babilen: good point... |
| 10:49.20 | goestin | ack thanks guys for explaining! have a great day! |
| 10:49.21 | babilen | dpkg: tell goestin -about apt-cacher-ng |
| 10:49.41 | babilen | goestin: Also read the factoids linked in there -- in particular if you have a squid proxy already. |
| 10:51.29 | jzk1 | Why don't fglrx kernel modules *ever* install cleanly |
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| 10:51.53 | nido | big channel |
| 10:52.03 | babilen | jzk1: To teach you to use radeon -- but they should, what's the problem? Are you following https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary ? |
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| 10:57.55 | babilen | jzk1: no? yes? what's the error? |
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| 11:02.21 | jelly | !confuse babilen |
| 11:02.21 | dpkg | No, those are their gouda today, babilen? Wellies of the Republic of Tahiti with extra crabpaste. |
| 11:04.35 | goestin | haha |
| 11:04.40 | goestin | !confuse goestin |
| 11:04.40 | dpkg | Yes, those was their pants today, goestin? Pants of the People's Republic of Swaziland with extra cheese. |
| 11:04.43 | jzk1 | babilen: firegl_public.o wont compile |
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| 11:08.04 | pupil | hello, good afternoon |
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| 11:12.37 | babilen | jzk1: Why is that? Could you paste your exact commands and their output to http://paste.debian.net ? Include your sources.list and the output of "apt-cache policy fglrx-driver" please |
| 11:12.49 | pengunix | hi |
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| 11:15.55 | madmac2501 | hi |
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| 11:17.12 | madmac2501 | I would like a command like "apt-cache depends" but that resolves the dependeciens that needs installed and doesn't show the alternatives to be choosen |
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| 11:17.52 | wols | apt-get -s build-dep |
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| 11:19.20 | madmac2501 | wols, that command resolves the dependencies recursively? |
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| 11:20.06 | wols | no |
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| 11:20.25 | pengunix | hi |
| 11:20.40 | jelly | madmac2501: apt-get -s install foo |
| 11:20.52 | babilen | pengunix: You repeat yourself -- If you are looking for a social channel then please take it to #debian-offtopic. Thanks. |
| 11:21.34 | pengunix | babilen: this was a test, I wasn't sure I am heard |
| 11:21.41 | pengunix | babilen: sorry for saying two times 'hi'... |
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| 11:21.57 | pengunix | babilen: I don't want to know how the punishment for spamming would look like |
| 11:21.58 | babilen | pengunix: Please use #test for that. |
| 11:21.58 | pengunix | hides |
| 11:22.05 | pengunix | ah #test, didn't know that |
| 11:22.58 | jelly | pengunix: consider !ping or /msg dpkg ping next time |
| 11:23.04 | madmac2501 | jelly, thank you i will try |
| 11:23.09 | pengunix | babilen: all people always think of malintend first, even when some says two times 'hi'... |
| 11:23.14 | pengunix | !ping |
| 11:23.14 | dpkg | Sorry pengunix, you're not online. |
| 11:23.23 | pengunix | oh no |
| 11:23.28 | jelly | not right now, next time! |
| 11:23.35 | pengunix | jelly: hi jelly |
| 11:24.08 | babilen | m( |
| 11:24.33 | jelly | I guess it's a good thing noone's actually looking for support right now |
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| 11:24.55 | madmac2501 | jelly, I would need the recursive dependencies |
| 11:25.17 | jelly | madmac2501: how does the dry-run installation test fail to provide them? |
| 11:25.35 | babilen | madmac2501: What are you trying to do? What is happening and how does it differ from your expectations? |
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| 11:27.35 | madmac2501 | I am trying to "apt-cache depends --recurse <package>" but with the dependencies resolved |
| 11:27.45 | madmac2501 | I don't like this output Depends: <debconf-2.0> |
| 11:27.45 | madmac2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:27.45 | madmac2501 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:28.06 | babilen | madmac2501: Why? What are you trying to do/achieve ? |
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| 11:29.11 | madmac2501 | I am using live-build and I want a command to automatically include the packages in the iso |
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| 11:33.55 | berarma | Hi. This is a vim question but I guess others here will be using vim in Debian. I'm trying to use vim with the desert256 theme. When I load the theme the background variable changes to light, if I set background to dark the theme changes to default. What's wrong? |
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| 11:40.33 | kimspindel | berarma: you could try asking #vim |
| 11:40.59 | berarma | kimspindel: yes, I'll do, thanks |
| 11:41.21 | kimspindel | I use vim on debian but I've never installed a theme |
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| 11:41.51 | bhuddah | vim does support themes? |
| 11:42.12 | berarma | sorry, I meant colorscheme, thanks for the heads up :) |
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| 11:54.06 | lech01 | how to configure xfce to start up when users type "startx" instead of gnome3? |
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| 11:56.21 | torax | edit .xinitrc |
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| 11:57.12 | Iridos | huh. I thought nobody uses startx anymore... and the ones who might do, would know? |
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| 11:57.35 | lech01 | Iridos: well I don't know |
| 11:58.32 | sKeiths | what does 'kill usr1 PID' mean. I am currently using it to get a status of dd. |
| 11:59.03 | Iridos | well, I don't use startx anymore :D but yes $HOME/.xinitrc or /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc (which calls /etc/X11/Xsession) |
| 11:59.09 | lech01 | sKeiths: it sends signal "USR1" to some process. dd reacts to signal USR1 by showing stats |
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| 11:59.34 | lech01 | Iridos: isn't there dpkg reconfigure? |
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| 12:00.57 | Iridos | well, see yourself... it's in the xinint package |
| 12:01.03 | sKeiths | lech01: so other programs might not show status if i run that comand at them, dd is just made to do that. |
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| 12:02.29 | Iridos | well, the Xsession bit is in x11-common |
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| 12:04.06 | lech01 | sKeiths: yes |
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| 12:26.33 | mastro | is there a scriptable linux command that allow me to setup SMTP parameters on the fly? (aka, not using an already configured postfix or things like that) |
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| 12:30.02 | linedash | mastro, not afaik |
| 12:30.38 | wols | what are "smtp parameters"? |
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| 12:30.42 | mastro | linedash, thanks... that sucks |
| 12:31.29 | mastro | wols, smtp host, port, user, pass, smartstl enable / disabled, auth enabled / disabled etc... |
| 12:31.48 | themill | what are you really trying to do here? |
| 12:31.53 | wols | you can script it. all these things would need a MTA restart |
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| 12:33.02 | mastro | themill, one time script execution to notify multiple users of a website migration and their need to reset their password because the previous provider refused to provide them (probably they stored them in clear) |
| 12:33.26 | mastro | themill, script will have to be executed on a third party server where I'll have no access to |
| 12:33.37 | linedash | well you could just have that server send the mail directly |
| 12:33.43 | mastro | themill, meaning I can't ask them to configure postfix for me |
| 12:33.51 | linedash | echo "some stuff" | mail -s "some subject" email@address.com |
| 12:34.03 | mastro | linedash, nope that rely on postfix to be configured |
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| 12:34.36 | mastro | linedash, I need something like JavaMail.. and I'll use JavaMail if there's nothing scriptable via Linux shell that I can use |
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| 12:35.50 | themill | mastro: why not just generate the emails and then scp them to another box to inject them into any smtp server you've already got? |
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| 12:36.42 | mastro | themill, because not all the SMTP server accept any FROM address and because it'll have to use the same account used by the application that will run on that server to send the emails |
| 12:37.11 | themill | so how are you going to send mail from this box anyway? |
| 12:37.16 | afidegnum | hello, I have ftp server installed on debian squeeze, how do I upload files from my server to another server? |
| 12:37.31 | petemc | ftp client |
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| 12:38.24 | mastro | themill, there is a .properties file used for this exact same reason inside the server. It is used by a Java webapp my team developed to send images while registering. That SMTP server used by the webapp only accept request coming from the IP address of the server |
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| 12:38.55 | afidegnum | petemc: I should run apt-get install ftp-client ? |
| 12:38.59 | mastro | themill, and nope, I have no other control on that server then asking to install java, a java container or run some script (aka, again, can't ask them to configure postfix) |
| 12:39.01 | afidegnum | without GUI? |
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| 12:40.28 | mastro | I can use JavaMail, precompile it, build a Linux script to use it, zip it and pass it to the server owner to execute... but it will be looooot quickier to just write the linux script and pass it to him |
| 12:40.52 | petemc | afidegnum: there are several ftp clients, some command line based, some graphical. you could try them to see which one works best for you |
| 12:40.56 | afidegnum | any answer please? |
| 12:40.58 | themill | mastro: swaks is a commandline drive smtp client or you could get mutt to do this, but I can't see that solves any problem you couldn't solve in a simpler way |
| 12:41.01 | mastro | I can at least try to ask them if they can install a simple linux tool, but they'll surely NOT configure postfix for this single task |
| 12:41.38 | afidegnum | petemc: yes I am looking for the command line ftp tool to upload files to another server |
| 12:41.59 | mastro | themill, swaks seems exactly what I need |
| 12:42.11 | themill | afidegnum: you probably don't really want ftp btw. sftp or scp or rsync, perhaps? |
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| 12:42.40 | mastro | themill, thanks |
| 12:42.51 | themill | np, good luck |
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| 12:42.58 | mastro | themill, if there was an simpler way I could follow it, but I can't |
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| 12:43.23 | davetesc | anybody tried the Genie examples from the Linux Format mag iss 177??? |
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| 12:43.54 | jelly | mastro: there are other, small SMTP clients that can be used to provide /usr/sbin/sendmail instead of a fullblown MTA like postfix: msmtp-mta, nullmailer or ssmtp come to mind |
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| 12:57.59 | Celphish | elo, got a shell script-question |
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| 12:59.23 | Celphish | if I have a script that looks for an application and if it's not running, starts it, so far so good |
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| 13:00.21 | Celphish | pastebin.com/gNLKNCwa |
| 13:01.20 | Celphish | and I want that to log to a file with date and time everytime it had to start the application, to log to a file with date and time |
| 13:02.20 | Celphish | I've managed to add "&& echo test >> test.log and it does append it, but it seems to be doing it everytime the script is run, not just when the application needs to be started, eventhough I've put it inside the if-statement |
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| 13:02.41 | Celphish | that's the first problem, the second one is that I need to output the actual time and date to the file, but that's step 2 |
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| 13:04.18 | Celphish | I'll ask in the linux-channel instead since everyone seems to be busy :) |
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| 13:04.39 | pfote | Celphish: echo `date` "program made a booboo" >> somelog |
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| 13:05.35 | [Gunner] | hi, i've got syslog full of: "smartctl: sending ioctl 2285 to a partition!" messages. What does that mean? |
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| 13:05.41 | pfote | Celphish: and you need to execute that within your if block |
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| 13:05.59 | Celphish | pfote: ok, I'll give it a try, but how come it logs to the files even if it's inside the if-block? |
| 13:06.03 | linedash | [Gunner], safe to ignore |
| 13:06.09 | linedash | lmgtfy : http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.scsi/72667 |
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| 13:07.12 | Celphish | pfote: this is what's inside the if-block: /usr/bin/deluge && echo 'date' >> /home/user/logs/file.log |
| 13:07.26 | linedash | erm that's actually not the right link :> But anyway |
| 13:07.30 | linedash | It is a bug in the notifications in simple-features. |
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| 13:08.13 | pfote | Celphish: then your check if the program actually runs is broken |
| 13:09.13 | pfote | Celphish: check out pgrep |
| 13:09.40 | [Gunner] | linedash, google said that too :)) but it's annoying. Anyway to disable that? |
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| 13:10.38 | Celphish | pfote: pastebin.com/gNLKNCwa <-- that's the script before I add the log-thingie |
| 13:11.22 | Celphish | pfote: but it might work no now, just added && 'date' >> logfile |
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| 13:12.49 | Celphish | pfote: I withdraw that, it appends to the log-file everytime the if-statement is run.. weird |
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| 13:14.06 | mastro | jelly, yes but sendmail, like postfix, need to be installed on the system as a service and configured |
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| 13:15.09 | jelly | mastro: I guess that's why I didn't suggest using sendmail. |
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| 13:16.04 | mastro | jelly, thanks anyway :) i think swaks does just what I need, no more, no less |
| 13:16.33 | pfote | Celphish: try "if ! pgrep deluge-gtk; then ...." instead of your "ps .." construct |
| 13:16.58 | pfote | Celphish: or better "if ! pgrep deluge-gtk > /dev/null; then ...." |
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| 13:17.22 | themill | it looks a lot more like a "while not crashed" sort of loop... |
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| 13:18.39 | kexibq | hey guys, can anyone tell me the correct way to change the username of my account? (Using MATE desktop, and the user is the only other user than root.) Using the mate administration tool did not work |
| 13:20.10 | wols | !tell kexibq about mint |
| 13:20.28 | kexibq | wols: I am running sid. |
| 13:21.16 | jelly | kexibq: read the manual for usermod, then log out, log in as root at the console, and do it |
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| 13:22.10 | themill | kexibq: I'd recommend against changing the usernames of accounts though. It's always a lot more pain than you expect. |
| 13:23.09 | kexibq | themill: oh. Why would that be? |
| 13:23.25 | kexibq | I don't want to do a fresh install just for that reason :-( |
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| 13:23.30 | jelly | because silly programs embed it everywhere in the data |
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| 13:23.40 | kexibq | bah |
| 13:23.59 | jelly | kexibq: you could however just create a new user and copy or move some or all the data |
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| 13:26.42 | afidegnum | themill: |
| 13:26.47 | afidegnum | u there? |
| 13:26.51 | themill | no |
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| 13:27.47 | Celphish | pfote mind using my pastebin and add what you mean? |
| 13:27.58 | Celphish | I don't follow, I'm quite new to this shell scripting |
| 13:29.12 | afidegnum | themill: lol, |
| 13:29.22 | afidegnum | so what's the appropriate app for that? |
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| 13:31.32 | jelly | lftp can be scripted |
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| 13:31.43 | Celphish | themill: or if you can do it, don't know if pfote is busy |
| 13:31.47 | jelly | (hell, even the default ftp client can be scripted) |
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| 13:44.00 | cypherman | hi people |
| 13:44.15 | cypherman | i need help, my debian system freezes on startup even in recovery mode |
| 13:44.57 | cypherman | i have an Asus M5A99X-EVO mobo i think with realtek audio and ATI Radeon HD 5450 PCI video card |
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| 13:45.40 | cypherman | the system was like 30 days uptime and after upgrading packages, rebooted and freezes even in recovery mode with blank screen |
| 13:45.42 | cypherman | any ideas? |
| 13:45.47 | pengunix | cypherman: harddisc ok? |
| 13:45.50 | wols | cypherman: run it with "init=/bin/sh" does it still freeze? |
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| 13:45.59 | pengunix | cypherman: have you tried to boot using a live cd / live usb stick / live system? |
| 13:46.00 | wols | what did you upgrade? what debian do you run? |
| 13:46.07 | pengunix | cypherman: you can easily create one |
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| 13:47.09 | cypherman | in fact i'm running from usb stick right now in the same system, my recovery stick live USB debian (32GB pendrive) |
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| 13:47.25 | cypherman | pengunix, hard disk is ok |
| 13:47.38 | cypherman | is a SATA 3 500GB new one, less than a year |
| 13:48.13 | cypherman | i would like to disable ATI propietary driver and see if it can boot, but cannot run the recovery!! |
| 13:48.14 | wols | cypherman: check your dpkg.log what packages you upgraded |
| 13:48.38 | wols | you don't need to. you can use your current live cd |
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| 13:49.48 | sweb | how can i reset root password on wheezy ... i'm on grub menu ... |
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| 13:50.24 | pakaran | hi. I'm on through my phone since, after doing a full upgrade and rebooting, my testing laptop doesn't reach the x login screen. It just turns the screen off and on repeatedly as if it's trying to change resolution. |
| 13:50.28 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sweb about ifrp |
| 13:50.34 | cypherman | wols, in wich folder is that file? |
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| 13:51.01 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.45 | wols | pakaran: then check yout Xorg.0.log |
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| 13:52.09 | cypherman | dpkg.log is empty, maybe the update was a couple of restarts cannot remember |
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| 13:52.39 | cypherman | i know that the system was like 1 month uptime with some updates some days |
| 13:53.26 | pakaran | No actual error messages. |
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| 13:54.18 | sweb | abrotman: which line i must edit ? http://upcity.ir/images2/02553751814521841260.jpg |
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| 13:55.29 | cypherman | maybe i need to set up a chroot env to fix or remove the ATI driver? i'm sure that it is causing trouble, it caused trouble before |
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| 13:55.33 | tripolar | hi |
| 13:55.47 | rafs | sweb: the one that starts with linux |
| 13:55.54 | rafs | hello |
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| 13:56.21 | pengunix | cypherman: so boot into with the live cd |
| 13:56.25 | wols | !tell cypherman about nodm |
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| 13:56.32 | pengunix | cypherman: does it work then? any disk encryption in place? |
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| 13:56.35 | pengunix | !tell me about nodm |
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| 13:56.56 | pengunix | DM == desktop manager ? |
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| 13:58.16 | cypherman | pengunix, nodm? |
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| 13:58.23 | wols | !tell pengunix about selftell |
| 13:58.43 | cypherman | I have no encryption in my desktop system, so i can mount it in my debian USB live just with a click |
| 13:59.22 | tripolar | i want to upgrade a 6.0.8 debian to 7 but i get everything is okay when i do a "apt-get dist-upgrade" |
| 13:59.25 | pengunix | wols: so strict here :)# |
| 13:59.25 | tripolar | cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 13:59.28 | tripolar | 6.0.8 |
| 13:59.30 | tripolar | why does this happen? |
| 14:00.00 | wols | tripolar: cause you have squeeze installed? |
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| 14:00.05 | sweb | rafs: authentication tojen manipulation error during `passwd root` |
| 14:00.14 | sweb | token* |
| 14:00.19 | wols | tripolar: what is your libc6 and your kernel version? |
| 14:00.19 | tripolar | wols /etc/debian_version == 6.0.8 |
| 14:00.21 | zykotick9 | !tell tripolar about squeeze->wheezy |
| 14:00.32 | tripolar | wols 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 14:00.38 | tripolar | its 6 not 7 |
| 14:00.48 | zykotick9 | tripolar: do you know what dist-upgrade means? |
| 14:01.06 | cypherman | pengunix, what is nodm? |
| 14:01.06 | rafs | sweb, you put in the end of the line init=/bin/sh? |
| 14:01.16 | tripolar | zykotick9: yeah update to the next major version |
| 14:01.18 | wols | cypherman: read what dpkg messaged you |
| 14:01.26 | zykotick9 | tripolar: that's NOT what it means |
| 14:01.35 | tripolar | zykotick9: what than? |
| 14:01.49 | zykotick9 | tripolar: see the dpkg message |
| 14:01.50 | bugoff | 5 |
| 14:02.06 | sweb | rafs: yep, i load bash loaded |
| 14:02.08 | sweb | fsck |
| 14:02.17 | sweb | mount -o remount,rw / |
| 14:02.24 | sweb | passwd root |
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| 14:02.38 | tripolar | zykotick9 how do i do with dpkg alone? |
| 14:03.03 | rafs | do #nano /etc/passwd and delete de x at the root line |
| 14:03.05 | wols | tripolar: dpkg the bot in here. this bot messaged you. read that |
| 14:03.16 | wols | tripolar: not dpkg the debian command |
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| 14:03.25 | rafs | tthis way you make the root be without password |
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| 14:03.29 | tripolar | zykotick9 wols thanks |
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| 14:03.59 | rafs | sweb: and then reboot |
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| 14:05.10 | rafs | sweb: than you can log in as root and do passwd |
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| 14:06.45 | abrotman | sweb: someone answered you by now right? |
| 14:07.01 | abrotman | rafs: that's a horrible idea, wtf |
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| 14:07.50 | rafs | abrotman: I did this last week |
| 14:08.07 | cypherman | pengunix, dpkg.log.1 lists all installes packages in various days before |
| 14:08.28 | abrotman | rafs: it doesn't make it a good idea |
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| 14:08.59 | rafs | abrotman: just suggest another thing then |
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| 14:09.48 | abrotman | I already did, the correct thing |
| 14:09.53 | cypherman | wols, i cannot uninstall packages, i'm in a debian live usb |
| 14:10.18 | cypherman | i can edit files, like change true to false as you say... but what else? |
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| 14:14.02 | wols | cypherman: you can, when you chroot into your debian installation. but you don't need to |
| 14:14.17 | wols | cypherman: which debian branch is this? |
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| 14:14.30 | cypherman | wols, debian 7 wheezy |
| 14:14.38 | cypherman | wols, amd64 |
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| 14:14.54 | sweb | abrotman: : after `passwd root` ... i gave error : authentication token manipulation error |
| 14:14.55 | wols | then any dist-upgrade shouldn't have done anything unless you took packages from testing |
| 14:15.02 | cypherman | wols, my usb stick debian 7 usb is i686-pae, not amd64 |
| 14:15.22 | wols | then boot without DM starting |
| 14:15.28 | wols | or use the init= as I told you above |
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| 14:16.34 | cypherman | wols, i enabled backport repo because i tried to install some software, but in the end i not installed it and disabled the repo, maybe in the update/upgrade some xorg package went for backport to my system |
| 14:16.48 | cypherman | wols, that was a very bad move |
| 14:17.03 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:17.13 | wols | also check your Xorg.0.log on the PC |
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| 14:17.57 | cypherman | wols, Xorg.log appears empty |
| 14:18.20 | cypherman | wols, Xorg.0.log appears empty |
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| 14:22.11 | MisterE | hi, does gzip -d delete the archive once it's decompressed by default? |
| 14:22.52 | rozie | MisterE: so hard to check? |
| 14:23.09 | MisterE | I did and it appears to be gone |
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| 14:23.11 | MisterE | thats why I ask |
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| 14:23.35 | mikunos1 | Hi guys I am trying to install the phpmyadmin by a deb package and I get this error: /phpmyadmin/navigation.php< |
| 14:23.44 | mikunos1 | any idea? |
| 14:23.47 | MisterE | not the type to ask before checking / searching but my internet is so crummy I can't load a web page seems all I can do is stay connected to irc |
| 14:23.48 | mikunos1 | or hint? |
| 14:24.25 | sweb | dpkg: tell sweb abrotman ifrp not work on wheezy |
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| 14:24.42 | sweb | dpkg: tell abrotman about ifrp |
| 14:24.51 | sweb | not work on wheezy |
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| 14:28.24 | tirta-lalondong | I'm running Debian 6.0.5 and i want to ask how to set up Sub Domain for my DNS server |
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| 14:29.40 | tirta-lalondong | I'm running Debian 6.0.5 and i want to ask how to set up Sub Domain for my DNS server |
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| 14:32.01 | MisterE | rozie, or anyone else know if default behavior for gzip -d is to delete the archive after decompressing? I see no gzip options for preserving or deleting the archive. |
| 14:32.02 | timss | tirta-lalondong: you usually configure that on domain provider and then configure it on your webserver or whatever (for example a VirtualHost in Apache) |
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| 14:32.58 | timss | tirta-lalondong: unless you're going to distribute domains, in that case look up bind, it's the same for most distros as far as I know |
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| 14:34.58 | tirta-lalondong | is there another way to set up subdomain instead of using VirtualHost in apache? |
| 14:35.14 | tirta-lalondong | how about distribute domains? |
| 14:35.16 | tirta-lalondong | how to do that? |
| 14:35.23 | lroe | Does anyone have recommendations for a simple 'procedure/workflow' manager? |
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| 14:35.40 | timss | tirta-lalondong: It's unclear what you really want. |
| 14:35.52 | tirta-lalondong | how about distribute domains? |
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| 14:36.58 | timss | If you want to make for example mail.server.com available on a local domain you'd have to setup a DNS server with the relevant entry (such as bind9). If it's a small network you can also just use /etc/hosts |
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| 14:49.56 | pengunix | How can I find out what password has been entered (3/n times) when sudo fails??? |
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| 14:53.15 | timss | I doubt that is possible. Why would you ever want your typed passwords to be stored? |
| 14:53.58 | pengunix | timss: when using sudo as normal user (in group sudo), I get 'Sorry, try again.' three times without any password prompt. Then it fails. |
| 14:54.05 | pengunix | timss: I want to find out why sudo doesn't work |
| 14:54.23 | timss | Is the group 'sudo' configured in your sudoers file? |
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| 14:54.59 | pengunix | timss: how? |
| 14:55.05 | timss | Anyway, I don't know how you'd fix it, but I really doubt you'd be able to find which password was typed when you get an error that the wrong password was typed. Just think about the security consequences. |
| 14:55.11 | pengunix | timss: /etc/sudoers is default when sudo was installed, I haven't change anyhting. |
| 14:55.30 | pengunix | timss: well, when the admin (root) can see the passwords, this wouldn't be too bad? |
| 14:55.49 | timss | pengunix: visudo, but it requires to be run as root and uses your $EDITOR |
| 14:56.04 | pengunix | timss: ok, what do I have to check inside sudoers? |
| 14:56.19 | timss | There's a line that says something about the sudo group |
| 14:56.35 | timss | pengunix: The root can't see the passwords in cleartext unless you've changed something. |
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| 14:57.01 | pengunix | # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command |
| 14:57.03 | pengunix | %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL |
| 14:57.05 | pengunix | this line? |
| 14:57.48 | Iridos | pengunix, it would be helpful if you could just copy&paste that sudo dialog in paste.debian.net, so we can see ourselves/know we understood what you're talking about |
| 14:58.24 | timss | If it's already uncommented and your user is in the sudo group I suppose it should be working. Does the user itself work (as in you can log into it using su?) |
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| 14:59.43 | pengunix | yes! |
| 14:59.53 | pengunix | timss: yes, the user can login. |
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| 15:00.02 | pengunix | timss: sudo works on root only |
| 15:00.07 | zykotick9 | pengunix: using "groups" in a terminal, is sudo listed? |
| 15:00.10 | pengunix | timss: on normal users it fails three times |
| 15:00.32 | pengunix | zykotick9: as normal user: debian sudo |
| 15:00.54 | zykotick9 | pengunix: that's it? 2 groups? |
| 15:01.14 | pengunix | zykotick9: yes |
| 15:01.21 | pengunix | zykotick9: sudo should be sufficient, shouldn't it be? |
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| 15:01.32 | zykotick9 | let me guess, you used useradd... |
| 15:02.11 | zykotick9 | pengunix: using adduser will create a more "default" debian user. best of luck. |
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| 15:02.17 | petern_ | debian group? seems non-standard :p |
| 15:02.27 | zykotick9 | petern_: +1 |
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| 15:03.07 | petern_ | Anyway, being in the sudo group should be enough to be able to sudo. |
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| 15:05.31 | timss | pengunix: how did it go with a new test user using adduser (and adding group using `usermod -a -G sudo <username>`)? |
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| 15:07.12 | zykotick9 | timss: fyi, i think use adduser to add the user to a group is a lot safer, then suggesting usermod (which may have cause this issue in the first place) |
| 15:07.41 | timss | zykotick9: I never had any issues with that, but ok |
| 15:07.41 | petern_ | Yus |
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| 15:08.41 | zykotick9 | timss: it's people, NOT using the -a that removes them from all other groups... when used correctly - it's fine obviously. adduser is just less error prone |
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| 15:10.07 | timss | zykotick9: aye, maybe I'll get used to just using adduser myself :-) |
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| 15:17.52 | neyder_ | hi there |
| 15:17.53 | neyder_ | :D |
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| 15:23.21 | sweb | hey guys i cant reset my root password using grub |
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| 15:23.43 | sweb | during remount my partition it seems my root partition on LVM not be mountet well |
| 15:23.56 | sweb | so passwd not changed my root password |
| 15:24.02 | sweb | what the hell can i do ? |
| 15:25.20 | other_other_joe | mount -no remount,rw / && mount -o remount,rw / |
| 15:25.31 | jelly | sweb: use a livecd/liveusb |
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| 15:27.18 | abrotman | sweb: it does work, you did it wrong |
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| 15:31.09 | other_other_joe | sweb: add "init=/bin/sh" to the end of your kernel line in grub. When it drops you in a shell, use "mount -no remount,rw /" to mount slash without attempting to write to your mtab. I'll generall then do mount -o remount,/ rw again, so it is written to mtab |
| 15:31.17 | other_other_joe | then passwd as usual |
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| 15:31.38 | Neozonz | how can i add text to motd dynamically upon every logon? |
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| 15:32.24 | cypherman | wols, should i do a chroot to restore non-backports packages in my debian system? |
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| 15:34.16 | wols | cause it's one way to do it. usually the easiest. have you started your debian with init=/bin/bash yet or disabled DM in some way before booting? |
| 15:34.36 | cypherman | no |
| 15:34.44 | cypherman | how i do it? |
| 15:35.00 | cypherman | i tried recovery mode and it freezed |
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| 15:35.13 | wols | other_other_joe just wrote how to do it |
| 15:35.43 | szaus18 | qemu-ppc-static: /tmp/buildd/qemu-1.1.2+dfsg/linux-user/signal.c:4341: setup_frame: Assertion `({ unsigned long __guest = (unsigned long)(ka->_sa_handler) - guest_base; (__guest < (1ul << 32)) && (!reserved_va || (__guest < reserved_va)); })' failed. |
| 15:35.47 | szaus18 | qemu: uncaught target signal 6 (Aborted) - core dumped |
| 15:35.51 | cypherman | wols, where? |
| 15:36.05 | szaus18 | what is this? why can't I run qemu-ppc-static for deboostrap --second-stage? |
| 15:36.22 | szaus18 | is this a debian bug, used to work fine on squeeze etc |
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| 15:39.28 | meshuggah | ubuntu is in whicih version right now? |
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| 15:40.28 | wols | cypherman: in here, 8 minutes ago |
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| 15:40.35 | wols | meshuggah: ask #ubuntu |
| 15:41.01 | timss | meshuggah: you can check yourself you know... http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop |
| 15:41.03 | meshuggah | lol sorry i was thinking i was in ubuntu |
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| 15:41.13 | meshuggah | sorry to have insulted the place |
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| 15:51.59 | cypherman | wols, which file should i edit in grub? it's been years... grub.cfg? |
| 15:53.09 | timss | I think it's /boot/grub/menu.lst |
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| 15:53.57 | timss | Depends on your version. |
| 15:54.06 | cypherman | debian 7 |
| 15:54.17 | cypherman | don't have menu.lst |
| 15:54.21 | babilen | cypherman: In grub hit "e" to edit the command line and then follow the advice given earlier. You can also chroot as shown in "/msg dpkg fixmbr" |
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| 15:54.38 | babilen | menu.lst is grub 1 specific and not used anymore |
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| 15:56.24 | sweb | abrotman: tell me what's wrong http://semnanweb.com/deb.pdf ? |
| 15:56.41 | timss | Weird, my VPS is running Debian 7 but with grub-legacy (v1) and has a menu.lst. Guess my provider has changed the image somewhat. |
| 15:56.43 | cypherman | be right back |
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| 15:59.21 | abrotman | did you verify it was actually remounted as rw? |
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| 16:01.43 | cypherman | wols, i am in the grub commandline editor |
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| 16:02.04 | cypherman | where i have to insert the init=/bin/bash option? |
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| 16:02.30 | wols | in the lin starting with "linux" |
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| 16:03.20 | cypherman | linux /boot/vmlinua... bla bla |
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| 16:03.31 | cypherman | at the end? or replacing it? |
| 16:03.41 | other_other_joe | at the end |
| 16:03.52 | other_other_joe | init=/bin/sh |
| 16:03.57 | cypherman | ro quiet is the end |
| 16:04.00 | cypherman | after that... |
| 16:04.07 | other_other_joe | remove quite |
| 16:04.11 | other_other_joe | quiet |
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| 16:04.27 | other_other_joe | replace quiet with init=/bin/sh |
| 16:04.37 | other_other_joe | not that it really matters |
| 16:04.40 | other_other_joe | it'll drop you in a shell anyway |
| 16:04.46 | other_other_joe | it's just nice to see it get there |
| 16:05.16 | other_other_joe | but you're affectively telling your bootload that your init script, the script that starts all your daemons, is sh |
| 16:05.25 | cypherman | ok |
| 16:05.26 | other_other_joe | sorta tricking it into giving you a shell |
| 16:05.33 | other_other_joe | ioatdma 0000:00:16.7: PCI INT D -> GSI 46 (level, low) -> IRQ 46 |
| 16:05.33 | other_other_joe | done. |
| 16:05.33 | other_other_joe | ^[[24;2R |
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| 16:05.40 | other_other_joe | ah, sry |
| 16:05.43 | StephenS | sry |
| 16:05.44 | cypherman | hit F10 |
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| 16:05.54 | other_other_joe | crtl-x |
| 16:06.01 | eblip | i plugged a usb stick into my debian box and it isnt showing up in files |
| 16:06.13 | other_other_joe | mount it |
| 16:06.39 | other_other_joe | anyone have any experience with serial over lan choking your boot process |
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| 16:06.44 | other_other_joe | ? |
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| 16:06.54 | eblip | where will i find it in order to mount it |
| 16:07.23 | eblip | shouldnt it automatically mount it |
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| 16:07.24 | other_other_joe | seems it's too slow to keep up and eventually chokes on the buffer |
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| 16:07.38 | other_other_joe | not necessarily |
| 16:07.50 | other_other_joe | you'll need something watching for it to do that for you |
| 16:08.10 | mtn | eblip: if you are using gnome, use the Disk Utility |
| 16:08.12 | other_other_joe | if you plug it in and check the end of dmesg, it'll tell you what volume it is |
| 16:08.34 | other_other_joe | generally /dev/sdX1 |
| 16:08.39 | other_other_joe | probably /dev/sdb1 |
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| 16:09.14 | cypherman | wols, i have a prompt root@(none) |
| 16:09.15 | pengunix | zykotick9 / timss: I used adduser for creating a new user (named debian) and for adding the user to the group sudo (adduser debian sudo). |
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| 16:09.51 | zykotick9 | pengunix: and... is it working now? |
| 16:09.54 | cypherman | i guess i cannot use apt-get and stuff |
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| 16:12.58 | cypherman | wols, i cannot apt-get anything, it says unable to resolve host and i think i have no write permissions in the hard drive |
| 16:13.03 | cypherman | any ideas? |
| 16:13.35 | Penix | cypherman: maybe fix those two problems? |
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| 16:13.44 | other_other_joe | cypherman, what are you trying to do exactly? |
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| 16:13.57 | other_other_joe | reset your root pass, no? |
| 16:14.11 | xauth | cypherman: are the right dns servers in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 16:14.11 | jhutchins | cypherman: Either fix your DNS or your sources list. |
| 16:14.32 | jhutchins | cypherman: Actually, you probably need to see if you even have networking. |
| 16:14.44 | sweb | other_other_joe: you type for me ? |
| 16:14.45 | xauth | Hmm, good point. |
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| 16:14.54 | cypherman | other_other_joe, my debian 7 amd64 system was 1 month uptime. i installed some packages and enabled backports for installing some multimedia apps and then changed my mind and disabled those repos |
| 16:15.17 | cypherman | other_other_joe, then restarted and the system freezes even i recovery mode |
| 16:15.37 | cypherman | now i booted with init=/bin/bash and cannot do anything in the shell |
| 16:15.46 | other_other_joe | ohh sorry. I was mixing you and sweb up |
| 16:15.50 | other_other_joe | my mistake |
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| 16:16.20 | cypherman | i do not have network |
| 16:16.28 | cypherman | i have a wifi pci card |
| 16:16.29 | Penix | cypherman: because you're booting straight to bash. |
| 16:16.35 | Penix | or dash |
| 16:16.37 | cypherman | yes |
| 16:16.42 | pengunix | zykotick9 / timss: No. I did the following: adduser debian [entering entering entering...] aduser debian sudo |
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| 16:17.05 | pengunix | zykotick9 / timss: What I don't understand is why groups lists two groups, debian and sudo. debian : debian sudo |
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| 16:17.10 | Penix | cypherman: bash won't bring up your network interfaces |
| 16:17.15 | jhutchins | cypherman: service networking start |
| 16:17.31 | pengunix | zykotick9 / timss: however, I cannot remove group debian from user debian, gpasswd -d debian debian tells me that group 'debian' doesn't exist... |
| 16:17.31 | cypherman | done |
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| 16:17.43 | cypherman | no ping yet |
| 16:17.46 | pengunix | zykotick9 / timss: gpasswd: user 'debian' is not a member of 'debian' |
| 16:17.51 | jhutchins | cypherman: Do you have networking now, or do you need to start network-manager as well? |
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| 16:18.09 | pengunix | zykotick9 / timss: but why does groups lists debian as belonging group then? |
| 16:18.15 | sweb | other_other_joe: yw |
| 16:18.25 | cypherman | my resolv.conf have DNS servers and started the networking service |
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| 16:18.33 | sweb | abrotman: http://www.up2www.com/uploads/1386260266381.jpg |
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| 16:18.34 | cypherman | but have no ping on www.google.com |
| 16:18.46 | sweb | abrotman: how can figure it out ? |
| 16:19.03 | jhutchins | cypherman: ifconfig probably doesn't show wlan0 as up, does it? |
| 16:19.11 | Penix | cypherman: think about what you're doing. you said you're using a wifi card. is the interface up? do you need something like wpasupplicant? |
| 16:19.31 | cypherman | Penix, maybe |
| 16:19.34 | timss | pengunix: it's easier if you just give us the output of your commands (paste.debian.net) |
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| 16:19.42 | sweb | ls -la give me drwxr-xr-x for etc |
| 16:20.00 | cypherman | ifconfig only shows lo |
| 16:20.05 | pengunix | zykotick9 / timss: another thing is interesting: I get this 'Sorry, try again.'-3-times-in-a-row-failure also, when the user does not belong to group sudo. |
| 16:20.06 | Penix | cypherman: well, there you go |
| 16:20.11 | pengunix | zykotick9 / timss: in either way |
| 16:20.18 | cypherman | modprobe something? |
| 16:20.47 | cypherman | i think my tp-link works with some firmware-... |
| 16:20.51 | Penix | cypherman: do you know the steps involved in bringing up a working interface? if not, you're gonna be poking around in the dark |
| 16:21.29 | sweb | other_other_joe: i cant mount rw / ... :( |
| 16:21.32 | cypherman | Have an idea, did it sometimes in ubuntu some years ago... now with debian never have problems... |
| 16:21.34 | Penix | cypherman: how is your wifi connection configured/handled when everything's working? |
| 16:21.35 | zykotick9 | pengunix: why you'd use debian as a username, is beyond me. BUT, if you are still only seeing 2 groups... I don't think you used adduser... best of luck - i have no suggestions at this point. |
| 16:22.06 | cypherman | i have XFCE desktop and it works with the applet, i think network-manager? |
| 16:22.07 | sweb | ls -la >>> drwxr-xr-x /etc |
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| 16:22.40 | cypherman | my tplink driver can be enabled even during install process so it has no propietary driver i think |
| 16:22.43 | sweb | i'm using debian wheezy 7.2 x64 |
| 16:22.53 | cypherman | is a generic tp-link PCI wifi card |
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| 16:23.50 | cypherman | Penix, and it is connected to a home network WPA/PSK secure connection |
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| 16:23.53 | tmallen | hi, i was asking about my resolv.conf changes being automatically overwritten yesterday |
| 16:23.59 | tmallen | somebody mentioned dhcp |
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| 16:25.16 | Penix | cypherman: that doesn't really mean anything in this situation. if you want a network connection you'll either have to fire up network-manager, or configure things manually with wpasupplicant etc. |
| 16:26.02 | timss | pengunix: As we've pointed out multiple times; it's easier if you just give us the output of your commands because what you're trying to say is a little unclear. |
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| 16:26.23 | pengunix | zykotick9 / timss: alright, hold on. |
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| 16:26.41 | timss | pengunix: remember to use paste.debian.net or similar, and NOT pasting here |
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| 16:26.56 | pengunix | alright |
| 16:27.05 | tmallen | any idea why this is happening? |
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| 16:27.45 | timss | tmallen: If one of your interfaces are configured to use DHCP and that DHCP server distributes a DNS server it will indeed change your /etc/resolv.conf |
| 16:27.48 | Penix | tmallen: probably because of dhclient or something similar |
| 16:27.52 | ratcheer | tmallen: It is standard behavior |
| 16:28.07 | timss | tmallen: In other words; it's probably intentional with your current configuration. |
| 16:28.16 | cypherman | ok |
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| 16:28.33 | ratcheer | tmallen: Everybody hates it, but the powers that be have decided it is best for us |
| 16:28.42 | pengunix | zykotick9 / timss: http://pastebin.com/eZdH8na3 |
| 16:28.46 | cypherman | i think i'll reinstall the system because i do not know how to set up the network mannually and fix the backport packages |
| 16:28.59 | pengunix | zykotick9 / timss: interestingly, adduser seems to add the user to a group with the same name as the user. |
| 16:29.05 | tmallen | hm, ok |
| 16:29.07 | ratcheer | There is a package that can stop it, I think it is called resolvconf |
| 16:29.13 | tmallen | i just want to change dns settings |
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| 16:29.37 | ratcheer | On your local host or on your router? |
| 16:29.47 | tmallen | localhost |
| 16:29.48 | abrotman | sweb: I asked you a question (sorry, I'm at real work, in a meeting) |
| 16:29.58 | tmallen | it's actually for testing bad dns on another host |
| 16:30.00 | ratcheer | Won't network manager do it? |
| 16:30.03 | Penix | cypherman: reinstalling may solve your problem now, but if you fix things without doing that, you'll learn some valuable skills |
| 16:30.03 | tmallen | i want to try those nameservers on this local vm |
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| 16:30.05 | timss | pengunix: Yes, that is the standard behaviour. |
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| 16:30.19 | pengunix | timss: can it break sudo functionality? |
| 16:30.26 | Penix | cypherman: from what I've seen, you installed some 'multimedia' packages from backports, right? |
| 16:30.28 | pengunix | timss: but then much more users would have this problem, right? |
| 16:30.30 | tmallen | it's a better test environment because the machine with the dns problems is in use |
| 16:30.37 | tmallen | (dns performance problems) |
| 16:30.39 | Penix | cypherman: that won't stop your system from booting. you must have done something else |
| 16:31.11 | cff | How can I redirect HTTPS traffic to a server on port 443 to another server on port 8083 ? |
| 16:31.18 | cypherman | Penix, you know it is complicated for you guys to keep up on me and don't want to be such a pain |
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| 16:31.26 | Penix | cff: iptables |
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| 16:31.38 | Penix | cypherman: fair enough |
| 16:31.45 | cypherman | Penix, i think the multimedia packages was dependencies for ffmpeg and stuff |
| 16:31.57 | cypherman | maybe some xorg packages... cannot remember... |
| 16:32.08 | cypherman | Penix, thankyou very much man |
| 16:32.26 | timss | pengunix: let me read the file first ,sec |
| 16:32.29 | cff | Penix: with? iptables -v --table nat --append PREROUTING --source 192.168.x.x/24 --protocol tcp --dport 443 --jump DNAT --to-destination 192.168.y.y:8083 |
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| 16:34.03 | timss | pengunix: adduser isn't magic. If you don't specify any group it will just make a new group with the same ID (gid) as the user ID and the same name. Any further groups is seperate, nothing fancy. |
| 16:34.07 | Penix | cff: not sure about specifics, since iptables syntax makes my eyes bleed. there's probably loads of port redirection examples floating around |
| 16:34.13 | Penix | ~hug pf |
| 16:34.13 | apt | ACTION jumps into pf's lap and huggles and *hugs* pf |
| 16:34.24 | pengunix | timss: so this is unlikely the reason for why sudo makes problems? |
| 16:34.33 | cff | I want when a client makes a request to 192.168.1.2:443/whatever to be redirected to 192.168.2.2:8083/whatever |
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| 16:36.11 | ratcheer | tmallen: The best thing I know for DNS is Steve Gibson's profiling program |
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| 16:36.31 | Penix | no need for profanity |
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| 16:36.41 | goestin | @cff |
| 16:36.42 | goestin | iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 8080 -j ACCEPT iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8080 |
| 16:36.48 | goestin | whoopsie |
| 16:36.57 | goestin | http://proghowto.com/iptables-redirect-port-80-to-port-8080 |
| 16:37.01 | cff | I already redirect for 80 |
| 16:37.18 | goestin | replace 80 with 443 and 8080 with 8443? |
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| 16:37.30 | timss | pengunix: Sorry, I can't really see what is wrong with your output to be honest. It looks correct to me. |
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| 16:37.54 | timss | pengunix: It should prompt for a password. |
| 16:38.18 | pengunix | timss: yes, but instead it tells me 'Sorry, try again.'. Then it takes two seconds, then 'Sorry, try again.' comes up again. And then a third time. |
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| 16:38.28 | pengunix | timss: No password prompt between those Sorries. |
| 16:38.40 | pengunix | timss: everything I enter simply appears (as often when a console hangs). |
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| 16:39.08 | timss | pengunix: Wait a second, I think I might have an idea |
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| 16:39.51 | tmallen | thanks ratcheer |
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| 16:40.09 | ratcheer | tmallen: YW |
| 16:40.14 | tmallen | hm this is a gui tool |
| 16:40.23 | tmallen | i only access this host over ssh |
| 16:40.27 | pengunix | timss: oh, this would be great! |
| 16:40.33 | tmallen | ah ha |
| 16:40.35 | tmallen | https://www.grc.com/dns/command-line.htm |
| 16:40.38 | tmallen | ok, thanks |
| 16:41.06 | tmallen | hm ... this looks like it's for some internal command interface |
| 16:41.33 | ratcheer | tmallen: I've never tried it from the CLI |
| 16:41.56 | tmallen | ratcheer: it doesn't seem to have a real command interface |
| 16:41.59 | ratcheer | In fact, I ran it on a Win 7 host |
| 16:42.02 | tmallen | ratcheer: (for a posix shell) |
| 16:42.39 | ratcheer | But it identified servers that were much faster than what I had been using. |
| 16:43.49 | timss | pengunix: meh, no luck. Could you maybe take a look at /var/log/auth.log ? It requires root to be read. What does it say right after you tried to use `sudo uptime` for example as the debian user? |
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| 16:44.00 | pengunix | yes |
| 16:44.23 | eblip | hey i have found my usb drive in dev/sda |
| 16:44.33 | eblip | to mount i want to use mount -t |
| 16:44.39 | eblip | but i dont know what type to put down |
| 16:45.00 | tmallen | ratcheer: that's not what i'm testing |
| 16:45.12 | tmallen | ratcheer: i am testing slow dns performance with private dns servers |
| 16:45.36 | pengunix | timss: http://pastebin.com/atxi08Kh |
| 16:45.37 | ratcheer | Oh. Sorry. |
| 16:45.41 | tmallen | ratcheer: i am not looking for fast servers though :) |
| 16:45.42 | eblip | is it just usbfs |
| 16:45.42 | zykotick9 | pengunix: actually, did you change the name of your system at some point? verify that hostname matches what's in hosts. |
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| 16:45.52 | tmallen | ratcheer: just trying to see where the problem resides |
| 16:46.00 | tmallen | ratcheer: so i wanted to use dig, etc. from this vm |
| 16:46.05 | lexq | could anyone provide a correct souces.list for i386 sid? I am unsure if mine is correct. http://pastie.org/8531061 |
| 16:46.06 | tmallen | ratcheer: but i can't set my resolv.conf. |
| 16:46.29 | cff | goestin: with your rules HTTP traffic doesn;t wiorjk |
| 16:46.33 | cff | doesn't work |
| 16:46.36 | ratcheer | tmallen: Did you look for that workaround package I told you about? |
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| 16:46.53 | pengunix | zykotick9: http://pastebin.com/KwpB5Tas |
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| 16:48.02 | pengunix | timss: the hosts file (could be helpful?): http://pastebin.com/KwpB5Tas |
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| 16:48.15 | Penix | lexq: looks fine. there's really no point have the jessie repos though |
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| 16:48.23 | timss | pengunix: did you give the user debian a password or was it blank? |
| 16:48.26 | Penix | s/have/having/ |
| 16:48.36 | tmallen | ratcheer: i didn't see it because you didn't highlight me |
| 16:48.40 | tmallen | ratcheer: ic ould use resolvconf |
| 16:48.49 | pengunix | timss: I gave it password 'insecure' (what it is) for testing. |
| 16:48.52 | timss | pengunix: to me that output looks like a normal output if you got a password prompt and it was wrong three times (i.e. wrong according to your output/description) |
| 16:48.58 | tmallen | ratcheer: i just didn't want to |
| 16:49.00 | ratcheer | tmallen: Yes, that was what I said |
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| 16:49.22 | austriancoder | I need to turn on an led (/sys/class/leds/led_err) if an initscript failes during startup - what options do I have under Debian 7? |
| 16:49.23 | pengunix | timss: the strange thing is that another system (which is older since it has been installed (approxy half year)) works well with sudo. |
| 16:49.31 | pengunix | timss: keyboard is ok (no caps-lock) |
| 16:49.39 | lexq | Penix: So I replace the 'jessie' instances with 'sid'? or just comment out the whole lines? |
| 16:50.21 | timss | pengunix: Just to be clear, you have "%sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" in your /etc/sudoers file (edited using `visudo`)? |
| 16:50.22 | Penix | lexq: comment them out. unstable doesn't have specific security update repos |
| 16:50.42 | lexq | great, thanks for the help Penix :) |
| 16:50.53 | eblip | hey so what is the filetype of a usb stick please |
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| 16:51.07 | Penix | eblip: what filesystem is on the drive? |
| 16:51.20 | pengunix | timss: http://pastebin.com/7RmG8dux |
| 16:51.21 | eblip | im not sure ..i bought it from the shop and jsut plugged it in |
| 16:51.24 | lexq | so Penix just to clarify, both the securtiy lines and the jessie-updates too? |
| 16:51.29 | Penix | eblip: probably vfat then |
| 16:51.31 | eblip | so its the default filesystem |
| 16:51.40 | eblip | is there any way of checking |
| 16:51.46 | Penix | lexq: yes. if you're not using jessie, then you don't need it |
| 16:51.54 | pengunix | timss: the default configuration for sudo package (debian wheezy amd64). |
| 16:51.55 | lexq | awesome, thanks again. |
| 16:52.07 | Penix | eblip: try mounting it |
| 16:52.12 | eblip | what happens if i dont put the type in at all |
| 16:52.13 | Penix | eblip: or fdisk/cfdisk |
| 16:52.24 | Penix | eblip: should work |
| 16:52.36 | eblip | right i ll try mounting it but i sidnt want to mess it up |
| 16:52.47 | Penix | mounting doesn't modify anything |
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| 16:53.11 | pengunix | timss: I got the same problem as here: http://serverfault.com/questions/543888/sudo-does-not-prompt-for-password-and-reports-3-incorrect-password-attempts But I don't use putty, I use the console directly!! |
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| 16:53.48 | eblip | thanks penix |
| 16:54.04 | timss | pengunix: I haven't experienced something like this before, and everything you've shown so far looks to be correct to me (but I could of course be overlooking something essential). Sec, I'll read the link you gave me. |
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| 16:55.23 | pengunix | timss: yes, it is a very depressing problem :( |
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| 16:56.12 | pengunix | timss: so sudo -l doesn't work either, so as written in the answer post this means that there is something wrong with the basic authentication (beyond sudo). |
| 16:56.26 | zykotick9 | pengunix: 1) typically /etc/hosts would have a line " |
| 16:56.29 | pengunix | timss: sudo -l works correctly as root, but not as a normal sudo-grouped user (as user debian) |
| 16:57.03 | timss | pengunix: Totally understandable, but sorry, I'm out of suggestions. I'm going to be a bit afk now, but if you find the sollution please highlight or query me with it as I found this really interesting myself. |
| 16:57.06 | pengunix | zykotick9: you mean an empty line (newline) at the beginnging |
| 16:57.20 | pengunix | timss: thank you for your efforts :) glad to be helped! |
| 16:57.39 | zykotick9 | pengunix: 1) typically /etc/hosts would have a line "127.0.1.1 YOURHOST" 2) does "cat /etc/hostname" return debian0? |
| 16:57.45 | pengunix | timss: yes, I hope I found a solution, I will highlight you then. |
| 16:57.50 | pengunix | timss: *find |
| 16:57.53 | timss | pengunix: thanks |
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| 16:58.17 | pengunix | zykotick9: cat: /etc/hostname: No such file or directory |
| 16:58.19 | pengunix | zykotick9: uh! |
| 16:58.45 | pengunix | zykotick9: could this be the reason?! |
| 16:58.54 | zykotick9 | pengunix: possibly... |
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| 16:59.47 | pengunix | zykotick9: hostname and cat /etc/hostname returns debian0 (which would be the correct hostname). |
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| 16:59.57 | pengunix | zykotick9: but sudo still doesn't work in normal user :( |
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| 17:00.51 | zykotick9 | pengunix: i'd be tempted to restart, then test - but might not be worth it... well, best of luck. |
| 17:00.52 | babilen | pengunix: "cat /etc/hostsname" shouldn't return "debian0" and if it does it would be broken. I really wonder what you did to your system sometimes |
| 17:01.12 | pengunix | babilen: what should it return? |
| 17:01.13 | babilen | Well, no it is fine. :) |
| 17:01.20 | babilen | (a better name) |
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| 17:01.35 | goestin | cff: sorry, i was showering and now i've gotta go. Hopefully someone else can help you out. else drop me a mail @ goestin at gmail.com |
| 17:01.37 | babilen | pengunix: Disregard it, I thought you were referring to a different file. |
| 17:01.39 | zykotick9 | babilen: pengunix called his machine debian0 and his user debian... |
| 17:01.41 | goestin | cheerio |
| 17:01.51 | Penix | pip pip |
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| 17:02.17 | pengunix | zykotick9: yes :) it is a test |
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| 17:02.35 | pengunix | zykotick9: so I restarted the thing and still got the sudo problem |
| 17:02.36 | pengunix | babilen: you scared me :/ |
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| 17:03.20 | szaus18 | in wheezy which one is default, apt-get or aptitude |
| 17:03.39 | zykotick9 | babilen: pengunix's hosts file is using the line "127.0.0.1 localhost debian0" is that ok? or should they be using the "127.0.1.1 debian0" as a 2nd line (would this affect sudo use?) - if you happen to know... |
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| 17:05.50 | mtn | szaus18: you can use either |
| 17:06.05 | zykotick9 | szaus18: in wheezy which one is default, vi or emacs ;) |
| 17:06.26 | szaus18 | ok, good to know, thanks folks |
| 17:06.28 | pengunix | zykotick9: I try it |
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| 17:07.59 | pengunix | zykotick9: either 127.0.1.1 debian0 and 127.0.0.1 debian0 make sudo work |
| 17:08.03 | pengunix | zykotick9: *not |
| 17:08.23 | zykotick9 | pengunix: 127.0.0.1 needs to be localhost |
| 17:08.24 | pengunix | zykotick9: but yes, the entry was missing first and sudo complained about not being able to resolve the hostname |
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| 17:08.34 | babilen | zykotick9: I would have expected debian0 to be missing from 127.0.0.1 but to be present for 127.0.1.1, but I have no idea what the sudo issue is about and no time to look into it now |
| 17:08.36 | pengunix | zykotick9: I pastebin it |
| 17:08.39 | eblip | right i have mounted my memory stick ..it appears to be type usbfs |
| 17:08.52 | eblip | but when i view the files they are of unknown type and no names |
| 17:09.06 | babilen | zykotick9: That is: 127.0.0.1 localhost\n127.0.1.1 debian0 |
| 17:09.30 | zykotick9 | babilen: that's what "I'd" expect to see... |
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| 17:09.42 | pengunix | zykotick9: something like this?: http://pastebin.com/d6MdH9mG |
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| 17:10.18 | narcos | Hi all. I'm trying to add a repo with "add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8" but get an error of "aptsources.distro.NoDistroTemplateException: Error: could not find a distribution template". How should I manually add it? To /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 17:10.20 | pengunix | zykotick9: but sudo still offers no password prompt |
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| 17:10.59 | zykotick9 | pengunix: are you root when it doesn't ask for password? as that is normal (what isn't normal, is using sudo while being root) |
| 17:11.25 | zykotick9 | narcos: try #ubuntu |
| 17:11.35 | narcos | OK |
| 17:11.46 | pengunix | zykotick9: when being root, sudo doesn't ask for any passwords and simply run the given command, no problems. as normal user it makes three times 'Sorry, try again.' without any possibility to enter a password. |
| 17:11.48 | narcos | Although, this is a Debian box..? |
| 17:12.14 | zykotick9 | pengunix: don't bother trying to test sudo while being root - it's pointless... |
| 17:12.17 | mtn | narcos: then do it the debian way, add your repo to your sources.list |
| 17:12.20 | pengunix | zykotick9: yes |
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| 17:12.33 | pengunix | zykotick9: sudo simply passes and starts the command, no password when being root |
| 17:12.45 | zykotick9 | pengunix: that's expected! |
| 17:12.46 | mtn | narcos: and if you break it, you get to keep the pieces |
| 17:13.01 | zykotick9 | narcos: are you using debian or ubuntu? |
| 17:13.16 | pengunix | zykotick9: interesting, command su (superuser) runs well on normal user, sudo makes the described problems. |
| 17:13.24 | pengunix | zykotick9: but I guess they are quite different |
| 17:13.27 | zykotick9 | pengunix: that's also expected |
| 17:13.44 | narcos | mtn: So that's kind of what I was asking - how should I manually add that repo? |
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| 17:13.50 | narcos | ( taken from here - http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/install-adb-and-fastboot-android-tools.html ) |
| 17:14.08 | narcos | zykotick9: Debian |
| 17:14.35 | pengunix | zykotick9: on that serverfault page someone wrote that he fixed that (on that particular system) by adding some password prompt timeout options to pam config. But the pam config is distribution default and was not changed by me at any time. And I wouldn't know where the timeout thing would belong to. |
| 17:14.37 | zykotick9 | narcos: using PPAs intented for Ubuntu is a horrible idea... best of luck to you. |
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| 17:15.29 | narcos | Ohh?. |
| 17:15.33 | mtn | narcos: no idea, maybe find some directions for debian |
| 17:15.34 | pengunix | zykotick9: the /etc/pam.d/sudo looks like this (if helpful?): http://pastebin.com/J4eZSLBH |
| 17:15.36 | zykotick9 | pengunix: sorry - i don't have any further suggestions for you. i have no clue why it's not working... sorry, best of luck. |
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| 17:15.40 | pengunix | zykotick9: the /etc/pam.d/sudo looks like this (if helpful?): http://pastebin.com/J4eZSLBH |
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| 17:15.49 | narcos | Hmm. End result is I'd like get the adb (android debugger) running |
| 17:16.13 | babilen | narcos: Please *do not* mix Debian with PPAs or *any* third-party repository. The former are tailored for Ubuntu and you will break your system by doing so rather sooner than later. |
| 17:16.26 | narcos | Ahhh ok |
| 17:16.30 | narcos | I'll find a Ubuntu box |
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| 17:16.53 | mtn | narcos: google this: adb for debian surprise! some specific hits for debian!! |
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| 17:17.03 | narcos | Although, http://packages.debian.org/sid/android-tools-adb |
| 17:17.10 | jelly | ,v file bin/adb |
| 17:17.12 | narcos | mtn: yeah |
| 17:17.13 | judd | Package: file on i386 -- squeeze: 5.04-5+squeeze2; squeeze-security: 5.04-5+squeeze2; wheezy: 5.11-2; wheezy-backports: 1:5.14-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:5.14-2; sid: 1:5.14-2 |
| 17:17.14 | szaus18 | narcos: stick with debian, ubuntu is moving towards phones/tablets :) |
| 17:17.17 | jelly | ,file bin/adb |
| 17:17.22 | mtn | narcos: now you are cooking |
| 17:17.24 | judd | No packages in wheezy/i386 were found with that file. |
| 17:17.48 | szaus18 | ubuntu wants to do phone/tablet/desktop/cloud, maybe someday those IoT little devices too |
| 17:17.48 | narcos | heh *cooks* |
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| 17:18.10 | jelly | ah, only in jessie and sid |
| 17:18.15 | jelly | ,v android-tools-adb: |
| 17:18.16 | judd | No package named 'android-tools-adb:' was found in i386. |
| 17:18.16 | jelly | ,v android-tools-adb |
| 17:18.18 | judd | Package: android-tools-adb on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 4.2.2+git20130529-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 4.2.2+git20130529-3; sid: 4.2.2+git20130529-3 |
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| 17:18.57 | narcos | So, I need to add the wheezy-backports repo...? |
| 17:19.07 | babilen | dpkg: tell narcos about wheezy-backports |
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| 17:19.50 | narcos | ta |
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| 17:22.38 | pengunix | zykotick9: what would this line do? pam_faillock.so authfail deny=3 unlock_time=604800 fail_interval=900 |
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| 17:23.06 | zykotick9 | pengunix: i have NO clue... i haven't played with PAM hardly at all. |
| 17:23.20 | pengunix | zykotick9: can logging be enabled for PAM? |
| 17:23.28 | zykotick9 | pengunix: i have NO clue... i haven't played with PAM hardly at all. |
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| 17:24.42 | eblip | im looking to mount a drive properly |
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| 17:25.07 | eblip | and there is no type im looking for ...i need to mount w95 fat32 (lba) |
| 17:25.13 | narcos | great that worked, thanks all. |
| 17:25.14 | eblip | is there a type that does that |
| 17:25.32 | timss | pengunix: you might have better luck if you make a post on superuser.com (remember to include some output, and some logs that you've pasted here). If you do, please link the entry :) |
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| 17:27.16 | pengunix | ok |
| 17:27.33 | jhutchins | eblip: Should be automatically detected. |
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| 17:27.55 | eblip | thats what i thought jhutchins |
| 17:27.58 | timss | pengunix: just an idea because it doesn't look like there's anyone here that knows the answer (not at the moment anyway) |
| 17:28.07 | eblip | but i have run dmseg and found it to be sdh |
| 17:28.14 | eblip | and then i did an fdisk -l |
| 17:28.31 | eblip | i dont know what part of debian autoloads usbs |
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| 17:31.23 | jhutchins | eblip: I'm a little vague myself and having some trouble with xfce mounting them, but the fstype is vfat, and you should have that and dosfstools. |
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| 17:31.54 | eblip | thanks jhutchins i tried the vfat type and it couldnt mount it |
| 17:32.06 | eblip | im thinking of formatting it with gdisk |
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| 17:32.13 | eblip | maybe ill have to use fdisk |
| 17:32.27 | eblip | and see what happens if i write to it from then on |
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| 17:33.11 | tdm4 | hi.. anyone know a good mirror for wheezy-backports? All the ones I tried only seem to have old squeeze-backports |
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| 17:33.31 | eblip | is it possible to use a gpt partition table on a memory stick |
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| 17:38.40 | jordanm | tdm4: the regular mirrors have backports now |
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| 17:55.27 | tdm4 | jordanm: you sure about that? I don't see them on the mirror I use |
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| 17:55.34 | jonkri | Is there some way in which I can log in to the Debian desktop over SSH? (Like, have the system start an X session.) |
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| 17:56.03 | wols | !tell jonkri about sshx |
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| 17:56.26 | tdm4 | I want to grab 3.5 kernel for wheezy |
| 17:56.31 | tdm4 | guess maybe I have to upgrade to testing |
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| 17:56.44 | wols | tdm4: no you don't. you can use backports |
| 17:56.48 | wols | !tell tdm4 about backports |
| 17:57.04 | pixelgremlins | hey, I'm using lsyncd to sync files via rsync, is there a way to also preserve permissions? |
| 17:57.05 | wols | you won't get 3.5 but then you won't get 3.5 with testing either. you get 3.10 or so |
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| 17:57.50 | other_other_joe | anyone familiar with serial over lan quarks? |
| 17:58.11 | other_other_joe | specifically, hanging my console on boot |
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| 17:58.56 | other_other_joe | grub fine, bios fine, runlevel 2 fine. |
| 17:59.00 | other_other_joe | just boot |
| 17:59.04 | tdm4 | wols: I went to backports.debian.org .. checked the mirrors.. they only have squeeze-backports |
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| 17:59.45 | tdm4 | oldstable-backports-sloppy, oldstable-backports, squeeze-backports-sloppy, and squeeze-backports |
| 17:59.50 | wols | no they have wheezy backports. look via packages.debian.org. but the proper way is to add backports in your sources.list and use apt-cache |
| 17:59.57 | tdm4 | no wheezy-backports anywhere |
| 17:59.59 | mtn | tdm4: follow the instructions: http://backports.debian.org/ |
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| 18:00.21 | wols | tdm4: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-3.10&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 18:00.24 | wols | tdm4: you are wrong |
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| 18:01.28 | tdm4 | ahh ok I see now |
| 18:01.30 | tdm4 | they rolled them into the main list |
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| 18:02.11 | mtn | tdm4: just like jordanm told you ;) |
| 18:02.25 | jonkri | Thanks wols! However, it would be nice if I can do this without making any changes to SSH. Perhaps there is some command-line tool that can just sign me in using gdm? |
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| 18:02.34 | tdm4 | crikey.. 3.10 now |
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| 18:04.34 | other_other_joe | jonkri: ssh -X $user@$server 'startx' |
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| 18:05.17 | other_other_joe | I've never tried an entire x session, but I use that command to forward individual x apps |
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| 18:05.18 | other_other_joe | might work |
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| 18:05.35 | wols | jonkri: or use a VNC X server |
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| 18:07.00 | tdm4 | hmm I have the wheezy nvidia driver installed.. dkms too. but it didn't compile for the newly installed 3.10 kernel |
| 18:07.07 | tdm4 | do I have to manually invoke that? |
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| 18:08.46 | wols | tdm4: you need kernel headers for it |
| 18:09.42 | hassofass | are there (unofficial) wine packages available for debian somewhare that contain the removed/rejected/whatever pulseaudio driver? |
| 18:09.54 | tdm4 | hmm bad return status for module build :( |
| 18:10.09 | tdm4 | maybe nvidia driver too old :) |
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| 18:10.59 | wols | tdm4: dpkg -l |grep linux |grep ^ii |
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| 18:25.59 | Release_ | hi all i tried setup basic cronjob in debian it doesnt seem ta trigger |
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| 18:33.23 | tdm4 | wols: I installed the headers |
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| 18:34.33 | tdm4 | linux-image-3.10-0.bpo.3-amd64, linux-kbuild-3.10, linux-headers-3.10-0.bpo.3-amd64 |
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| 18:36.12 | tdm4 | there is a new nvidia driver in wheezy-backports.. perhaps installing that will ensure it compiles under 3.10 |
| 18:36.15 | tdm4 | I don't think |
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| 18:36.36 | tdm4 | I don't think nvidia 304.88 was meant to compile under 3.10 :) |
| 18:36.45 | john_rambo | I have opened a port both on my router and ufw so that the torrent client can use it. Can someone from the outside use this port to access files on my PC ? |
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| 18:37.14 | tdm4 | 304.88 came out April 2013, 3.10 came out in July 2013 |
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| 18:45.08 | gremble | I am running Jessie and seem to get a snag on boot up. I get an error that says that systemd-logind failed to issue a method call and the launch helper exited with en error code one. This causes login to fail. Has anyone experienced something similar or perhaps know of how to resolve it? |
| 18:45.34 | gremble | I went to #systemd and they say that it is perhaps something to do with dbus, but I am not sure how to go from there |
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| 18:46.20 | arw_ | hi. |
| 18:46.22 | Chrys0pr2s3 | hi |
| 18:46.24 | Chrys0pr2s3 | I'm having trouble unmounting a drive, this is what shows on the mount point with ls: ? d????????? ? ? ? ? ? passport |
| 18:46.25 | jelly-home | tdm4: debian sometimes fixes software from upstream vendors to make it work with other software from oter upstream vendors they also distribute. This is called integration. |
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| 18:47.56 | arw_ | about the insserv Required-Start:-header: is there a way to say "start after X if there is a service X, if not I don't care"? |
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| 18:48.57 | arw_ | is this what X-Start-After would do? |
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| 18:50.33 | Chrys0pr2s3 | my fstab entry for the drive: UUID /media/passportntfs-3gnoauto,nouser,relatime,uid=1000,gid=users,locale=en_US.utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137,permissions,exec |
| 18:50.54 | Chrys0pr2s3 | tabs are missing |
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| 18:52.29 | arw_ | ah, never mind, somebody told be about https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
| 18:52.42 | arw_ | thx, and have a nice day |
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| 18:55.07 | Leoneof | hi, i'm doing apt-mirror for debian jessie to update packages, but it says 0 downloads, i'm sure there are new updates for it, whats up? |
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| 18:57.04 | jelly-home | Chrys0pr2s3: is it a removable device? Look at /var/log/kern.log or dmesg, chances are it got disconnected already and you're seeing the aftereffects. |
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| 18:59.04 | Chrys0pr2s3 | jelly-home: yes, it's an external disk |
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| 19:00.05 | Chrys0pr2s3 | The usb connection has been acting up and it sometimes disconnects. Usually i just umount /dev/passport and mount again and it's ok |
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| 19:01.43 | Chrys0pr2s3 | */media/passport |
| 19:01.58 | JordiGH | I need to patch a Gnome package: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103890/is-there-a-way-to-completely-remove-recently-used-from-open-and-save-dialogs |
| 19:02.13 | JordiGH | What's a good way to do this but still get security updates on stable? |
| 19:02.21 | JordiGH | And of course not have the security updates trample over my patch. |
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| 19:02.34 | JordiGH | Well, not unless they think my patch is insecure... |
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| 19:02.45 | jelly-home | Chrys0pr2s3: make sure all the apps have exited the directories under /media/passport, then umount -f it |
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| 19:03.04 | Scott0_ | anyone good with exim4? |
| 19:03.21 | Scott0_ | I can't figure out why my outgoing message is being sent to the maildir_home |
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| 19:04.33 | Chrys0pr2s3 | jelly-home: already tried mount -f, after making sure it wasn't being used with fuser. It seems the mount point got corrupted |
| 19:04.39 | Chrys0pr2s3 | *umount -f |
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| 19:05.15 | Scott0_ | the same message, with a small atatchement gets sent out prperly, but the same email with a larger atatchment gets sent to maildir_home |
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| 19:06.03 | jelly-home | Chrys0pr2s3: try lsof -n |grep media/passport & |
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| 19:06.38 | jelly-home | Chrys0pr2s3: don't forget the very shell you ran that ls in |
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| 19:12.11 | Chrys0pr2s3 | jelly-home: you nailed it, i had cd into a subfolder of the driver, then used that terminal to start top and forgot about it |
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| 19:36.38 | rainfyre | morning everyone |
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| 19:40.57 | Scott0_1 | if dnsdomainname, /etc/hostname both show something different, how would I correct this? |
| 19:41.11 | Scott0_1 | I thought it pulled fomr /etc/hostname |
| 19:41.59 | teraflops | see /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname |
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| 19:43.47 | eblip | i have mounted a usb memory stick and i can write to it from root on comand line |
| 19:44.06 | eblip | but i cant write to it from any applications in my user account like libre office |
| 19:44.25 | eblip | so it seems that the mounting of the device makes it root ownership |
| 19:44.31 | eblip | how do i go about sorting this out |
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| 19:52.59 | jordanm | eblip: if you mount it with your file manager (eg dolphin or nautilus), you won't have that problem |
| 19:53.15 | jordanm | eblip: otherwise you need to remout with the user and uid options |
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| 19:56.16 | cybrNaut | Package gis-osm: "Set of Debian packages which are dealing with OpenStreetMap data." <= that's a bit vague. Can it place markers on a map and print it? |
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| 19:59.32 | jhutchins | cybrNaut: One of the nice things about free software is that you can just install it and see if it does what you need. |
| 19:59.50 | jhutchins | cybrNaut: If not, you're out a little time and bandwidth, that's all. |
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| 20:00.48 | gdshfk | does the debian lirc package have no support for igorplug? I see nothing about igor in "lircd --driver=help" |
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| 20:02.51 | Lady_Aleena | After installation and if I find I don't like the name scheme I used during installation, how easy is it to change the names I chose? (It looks like I have to come up with four different names for my home installation.) |
| 20:02.57 | CheckDavid | I ran "pip install --upgrade pip", and now pip vanished.=O |
| 20:02.59 | CheckDavid | is this normal? |
| 20:03.17 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: What kind of names? Why four? |
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| 20:04.18 | jhutchins | CheckDavid: That doesn't sound like a standard debian/dpkg/apt install. |
| 20:04.28 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, it looks like I need to set up a Hostname, Domain name, Full name of user, Username for my account |
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| 20:06.11 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, I just want to know if I can change any of those later if I don't like them. |
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| 20:06.23 | CheckDavid | jholden, what doesn't? |
| 20:06.26 | CheckDavid | It's pip jhutchins |
| 20:06.29 | CheckDavid | not sjure what you mean. |
| 20:07.39 | Lady_Aleena | Also, is IceWeasel installed automatically? I'd like to get going on a lot of things almost immediately, and I need a browser for some of them. |
| 20:08.47 | CheckDavid | Ah, nvm, pip is pretty specific or the python community. |
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| 20:11.58 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Yes, they can all be changed in various ways. |
| 20:12.23 | DanDare | Hi. Im just wondering about a script to move phpmyadmin main page to other (hidden) folder and move it back when i need to use. Its ok doing so or it's probably im going to break anything anytime? |
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| 20:13.34 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, thanks...making up names is sometimes a pain. |
| 20:13.37 | jhutchins | DanDare: I think what you want is a2ensite/a2dissite. |
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| 20:14.02 | DanDare | jhutchins, I see. Thanks ! |
| 20:14.02 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Jus tbe glad you're not doing a 255 host datacenter. |
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| 20:14.54 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, once I get the hang of Debian on this computer, I have 11 more computers to install it on. |
| 20:15.01 | peterrooney | wonders what latin for 122nd is |
| 20:15.02 | xreal | Is "jiggy" the cli-version of "judd"? And if yes, where's checkbackport? :( |
| 20:15.19 | DanDare | Lady_Aleena, if it were all exact same hardware ... |
| 20:15.53 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, hubby's hobby is fixing computers and adding them to the "network". |
| 20:15.58 | Lady_Aleena | DanDare, HA! |
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| 20:18.22 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: So pick a novel or series that has enough characters or locations and use that. |
| 20:18.45 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Norse gods, muppets, etc. |
| 20:19.25 | Lady_Aleena | The Avengers! *giggle* |
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| 20:20.56 | jhutchins | There ya go... |
| 20:20.59 | Lady_Aleena | 1 computer in my office, 6 in his office, 1 in the living room, and 2 in the work shed. |
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| 20:21.14 | Lady_Aleena | For now, until he fixes the rest. |
| 20:21.15 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: O believe me, I know. |
| 20:22.18 | Lady_Aleena | Don't tell me I am going to freeze up on the naming scheme. *face palm* |
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| 20:22.30 | jhutchins | I was going to build a 50 node cluster once, but the hard ware proved unsuitable. |
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| 20:23.57 | egis | morning |
| 20:24.31 | egis | I hope someone can show me the way how to solve the problem I'm having :) |
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| 20:25.36 | egis | so I want to make each of my websites (on my debian server) to belong to separate user/group (kinda). Basically the php running in /var/www/website_one can't access files on /var/www/website_two. The problem is - nginx has to access all of them. How should I approach this? ACL? Chroot? I mean which manual should I read first? :) |
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| 20:32.17 | Mac101 | y |
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| 20:32.36 | jhutchins | egis: make them group readable, user writable. |
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| 20:33.18 | egis | jhutchins, I don't want them to readable by 'other' php process |
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| 20:36.43 | jhutchins | egis: There's only one real php process. |
| 20:37.28 | egis | jhutchins, php-fpm can have as much 'pools' as you want under different users/groups |
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| 20:38.31 | jhutchins | egis: If you've already decided how to do it, you don't need my help. I'm afraid the guides to multi-user multi-site webservers when I was getting started are all very out of date now. |
| 20:39.19 | Lady_Aleena | When I go to choose software in Software selection, if I ever want to use a SQL database, I should install it now instead of later, right? |
| 20:39.53 | egis | jhutchins, I haven't decided how to do it. :/ |
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| 20:42.19 | Lady_Aleena | I'll just try it and see. It isn't as if space on my disk is at a premium. |
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| 20:43.06 | DammitJim | what does one call a link with a pound sign at the end? |
| 20:43.08 | DammitJim | anchor? |
| 20:43.13 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Doesn't matter. You can add functions later, move functions to other systems.. |
| 20:43.26 | jhutchins | DammitJim: In HTML? |
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| 20:45.33 | DammitJim | I guess something like an anchor |
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| 20:46.11 | verblendet | hi, is it me or is the current apache2 package broken for testing/jessie? |
| 20:46.17 | Lady_Aleena | 1st: eat, 2nd: copy files, 3rd: install Debian (Good plan) |
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| 20:46.32 | verblendet | ack |
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| 20:48.25 | jhutchins | verblendet: I'd be very surprised, not much has changed in apache in years. |
| 20:49.04 | verblendet | mmmh, insserv refuses inserting somethin... *g* and everything else depending on apache fails to configure |
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| 20:52.19 | DammitJim | is there a way to detect if I am running Debian on a laptop vs a desktop? |
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| 20:54.37 | phy1729 | DammitJim: you chould check if the laptop task is installed; not terribly reliable though |
| 20:55.37 | BackEndCoder | DammitJim, the serial for the board will give it away |
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| 20:55.57 | BackEndCoder | sometimes even the process will tell you quicker |
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| 20:57.44 | jhutchins | DammitJim: Are you trying to figure out what you're connected to, or wondering if someone else can tell? |
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| 20:58.00 | jhutchins | DammitJim: Some blade servers use laptop hardware. |
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| 20:59.03 | jhutchins | BackEndCoder: I think you may be thinking of MAC addresses and PCI IDs, which are for individual chipsets, but from which you can sometimes deduce the hardware. |
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| 20:59.35 | BackEndCoder | not really |
| 20:59.44 | jhutchins | lshw can _sometimes_, but not always identify the motherboard. |
| 20:59.46 | BackEndCoder | my laptop using some M version processer |
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| 21:00.44 | BackEndCoder | it probably gets filed under not an exact science |
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| 21:01.09 | jhutchins | BackEndCoder: Right, because it could be a low-power desktop or a blade or miniserver. |
| 21:01.29 | BackEndCoder | the grass is always greener |
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| 21:01.53 | jhutchins | DammitJim: I notice you don't do dialog very well. |
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| 21:06.58 | Lady_Aleena | Hopefully, in a few hours I will have Debian installed (reformatting a 465 GB hard drive may take some time). |
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| 21:09.55 | mentos_ | Hi |
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| 21:10.52 | mentos_ | xfce4 in jessie craches on bitmapped fonts, does any one have any solutions to this problem ? |
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| 21:27.23 | DammitJim | Sorry guys, every time I ask a question, I get pulled to do something else |
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| 21:27.32 | DammitJim | your replies as priceless, though |
| 21:27.33 | DammitJim | thanks! |
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| 21:36.16 | hikenboot | can anyone name a really good gui based search and replace with advanced search features and really good documentation. I am trying to manipulate a file that requires advanced search and replace features such as replacing the searched item with the search item and some other string or searching for one character followed by another but only one character not two and things like that |
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| 21:36.40 | hikenboot | I used to use one in unix a long time ago, but don't remember what it was called |
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| 21:38.49 | ompaul | I guess running a cli with sed and awk inside X isn't going to count but it most likely invokes that in the background, sounds like a regex in emacs or something |
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| 21:41.34 | jhutchins | hikenboot: I'd do it in vi. |
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| 21:42.02 | ompaul | jhutchins: deathmatch? ;-) |
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| 21:43.21 | jhutchins | ompaul: I do use awk in bash loops for reporting things these days. |
| 21:43.55 | jhutchins | ompaul: sed would probably be the "right" tool here, but by the time I figured out the regex I'd have it done in vi. |
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| 21:45.00 | ompaul | jhutchins: true that |
| 21:45.49 | hikenboot | well thanks for the help guys. Those solutions arn't what I am looking for. but thanks |
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| 21:47.16 | RdrOfTheSt0rm | whats the preferred place to store iptables rules and way to load them? |
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| 21:48.58 | ompaul | RdrOfTheSt0rm: you save your current state as usually running iptables-save > /etc/iptables/iptables.saved then if you think of new funky rules add them to that and reload it is one way of operating |
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| 21:49.25 | jhutchins | RdrOfTheSt0rm: Multiple choice. I put a "firewall" script in /etc/init.d/ and called it from rc.local |
| 21:49.25 | ompaul | iptables-restore < file-name-and-path |
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| 21:50.30 | jordanm | iptables-restore is usually done via pre-up in interfaces |
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| 21:51.35 | RdrOfTheSt0rm | thanks |
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| 21:55.27 | krababbel | Hi, my date is one day behind, how should I set it please? |
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| 21:55.46 | krababbel | simply date -set ..? |
| 21:55.54 | ompaul | krababbel: su - when root ntpdate -u pool.debian.net is one way |
| 21:56.14 | ompaul | sorry .org |
| 21:56.31 | jhutchins | krababbel: If you have ntp installed, restarting it should cause it to sync. |
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| 21:58.07 | krababbel | Thanks, and sorry, I didn't mention: my Debian is installed in a VM, and I haven't installed ntp or ntp date. I was wary of issues synching a VM. In my situation I guess I should simply set the date now? |
| 21:58.49 | krababbel | I read that you shouldn't sync a VM via NTP, but let the virtualization thingy do its job. |
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| 21:59.10 | krababbel | Which didn't work out I guess. |
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| 21:59.43 | petern_ | depends on the vm |
| 22:00.09 | petern_ | definitely not needed for containers |
| 22:00.28 | ompaul | krababbel: depends on the vm but you could ssh in and date -s it |
| 22:00.30 | petern_ | but a vm doesn't necessarily get a time source from the host |
| 22:00.35 | krababbel | I guess so, yes. I was sure it was correct on installation, but maybe I missed a whole day of difference. |
| 22:00.51 | krababbel | ompaul: I'll try that. :) |
| 22:01.53 | krababbel | petern_: It is a hyper-v host, if that helps. I thought the kernel had time sync built in for hyperv |
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| 22:03.29 | petern_ | Probably for Windows guests... |
| 22:04.07 | krababbel | petern_: hm, they already had memory balloning in there, I figured time was the first to implement. :) |
| 22:04.17 | petern_ | http://blog.hompus.nl/2010/01/08/correcting-time-drift-with-centos-on-hyper-v/ |
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| 22:04.26 | petern_ | I don't know how relevant that is, it's kinda old. |
| 22:04.42 | petern_ | Bad luck getting stuck with a Hyper-V host :p |
| 22:06.08 | krababbel | petern_: I guess so. :) Thanks for the link anyway. |
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| 22:07.02 | jhutchins | Timekeeping is something VM and Parallels fixed several years ago. |
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| 22:07.43 | krababbel | It was weird being ahead exactly one day, so I doubt it was drift. |
| 22:07.55 | jhutchins | krababbel: One thing to ask is whether the host has the correct date/time. |
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| 22:08.15 | jhutchins | krababbel: Doesn't sound like a timezone issue. |
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| 22:08.33 | krababbel | It does, the windows host is getting it from a debian server :) |
| 22:08.42 | jhutchins | krababbel: Recent versions of ntpd can handle large offsets and are usually configured to do so at startup by default. |
| 22:09.35 | krababbel | jhutchins: I'd try it if the issue showed up again. |
| 22:10.19 | petern_ | Missed a 29th of February? |
| 22:10.55 | jhutchins | petern_: Those are fairly predictable. |
| 22:11.31 | krababbel | petern_: I doubt it, the vm was installed around october |
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| 22:12.47 | wallbroken | hi guys |
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| 22:13.14 | wallbroken | claudio@debian:/media/sf_VM$ ls |
| 22:13.15 | wallbroken | ls: unable to open directory .: Access denied |
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| 22:15.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | wallbroken, and that should not be? |
| 22:15.29 | wallbroken | i need to list and access files into that dir |
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| 22:16.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, what is that dir... |
| 22:17.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | what does "mount |grep /media/sf_VM" say |
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| 22:20.01 | wallbroken | CutMeOwnThroat |
| 22:20.02 | wallbroken | claudio@debian:/media$ mount |grep /media/sf_VM |
| 22:20.03 | wallbroken | none on /media/sf_VM type vboxsf (rw,nodev,relatime) |
| 22:20.03 | wallbroken | You have mail in /var/mail/claudio |
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| 22:20.40 | jhutchins | wallbroken: claudio does not have x permission for that directory. |
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| 22:20.49 | jhutchins | wallbroken: sudo ls should work. |
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| 22:21.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | it actually just returns one line... which you could have pasted :P ... apart from that use paste.debian.net :) |
| 22:21.59 | wallbroken | jhutchins |
| 22:22.02 | wallbroken | i tried giving it |
| 22:22.08 | wallbroken | but it won't apply |
| 22:22.14 | wallbroken | maybe it's a virtualbox problem? |
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| 22:23.07 | wallbroken | CutMeOwnThroat: http://paste.debian.net/69601/ |
| 22:23.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | jhutchins, I thought the task was to get it mounted such that the user can access it... |
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| 22:25.40 | wallbroken | CutMeOwnThroat, so?? |
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| 22:46.10 | dizzylizzy | how can I get a list of packages I've held at their current versions |
| 22:46.19 | jhutchins | Is it even a seperate mount, or just a folder? |
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| 22:47.52 | codygman | Does this provide OpenGL 2.0 http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/m/mesa/mesa_9.2.2-1.dsc... I thought there was usually an "upstream version" in the description file. How do I figure this out according to the debian version number provided of "9.2.2-1"? |
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| 22:49.33 | jhutchins | Is there a known bug with thunar segfaulting when it tries to open a USB device, or do I have something misconfigured? |
| 22:49.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | wallbroken, I don't ever run debian as a guest... probably "man mount.vboxsf" gives you options (e.g. to map files to your UID/user ) ... but as I obviously don't have guest utils installed, I don't have the manpage |
| 22:50.10 | wallbroken | CutMeOwnThroat, it's a vbox problem |
| 22:50.23 | wallbroken | i copied the files in in another directory |
| 22:50.47 | wallbroken | and when i change credentials, they are not overwritten |
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| 22:52.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | that wouldn't be surprising when whatever is mounted really is a vfat directory |
| 22:52.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | also wouldn't be surprising if it really mapped onto some ntfs filesystem |
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| 22:53.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | changing permissions often doesn't work if the permissions don't mapt 1-to-1 to to the one of the underlying filesystem |
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| 23:04.30 | Lady_Aleena | Now I have Debian installed, I need to know how to install software. I just tried to install HexChat and I got "Your current backend dos not support installing files." WTH? |
| 23:04.57 | mouz\lex | Lady_Aleena: how were you trying to install this software? |
| 23:05.22 | Lady_Aleena | I have it on a USB drive, and I double clicked in Dolphin. |
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| 23:05.46 | mouz\lex | what exactly did you double click? |
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| 23:06.47 | Lady_Aleena | hexchat_2.9.6.1-0_amd64.deb |
| 23:07.27 | mouz\lex | what version of debian are you running? |
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| 23:07.47 | Lady_Aleena | I had to go to another computer with Windows to download it, since the page on HexChat's site wouldn't load in Konqueror. |
| 23:07.52 | mouz\lex | Lady_Aleena: try installing the package with dpkg -i $package.deb |
| 23:08.00 | mouz\lex | as root or with sudo. |
| 23:08.57 | Lady_Aleena | I just installed Debian, near Linux virgin, so I don't know what to do. |
| 23:10.23 | Lady_Aleena | I just right clicked on the file in Dolphin, do I by chance want Apper installer? |
| 23:11.44 | mouz\lex | Lady_Aleena: did you try the dpkg command from a terminal? |
| 23:12.09 | Lady_Aleena | How do I get to a terminal? |
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| 23:14.44 | dizzylizzy | Lady_Aleena, Alt-F2, type "x-terminal-emulator" without quotes |
| 23:15.05 | Lady_Aleena | I found Konsole finally. |
| 23:15.08 | dizzylizzy | i'm not sure what DE you're using but that'll pull up whatever your terminal is |
| 23:15.15 | Lady_Aleena | KDE |
| 23:15.15 | dizzylizzy | oh okay |
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| 23:15.51 | Lady_Aleena | I am your worst nightmare by the way. |
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| 23:17.05 | dizzylizzy | Are you. |
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| 23:17.17 | Lady_Aleena | Now to figure out how to get the address of the file on the USB drive to install it at the command line. |
| 23:17.43 | dizzylizzy | it might help to use the graphical interface to locate the file |
| 23:17.46 | Lady_Aleena | BTW, how do I make the font bigger, I can barely read my screen. |
| 23:17.58 | Lady_Aleena | dizzylizzy: I have it up in Dolphin. |
| 23:18.00 | dizzylizzy | try control-shift-+ |
| 23:18.07 | mouz\lex | the terminal font? |
| 23:18.40 | Lady_Aleena | mouz\lex: all over the place, I can barely read this. |
| 23:18.49 | dizzylizzy | why hexchat by the way? it would make more sense to use xchat, especially since that's in the debian repos |
| 23:19.06 | dizzylizzy | that way you could just type "aptitude install xchat" as root and boom, you're up and running |
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| 23:19.21 | Lady_Aleena | dizzylizzy: because I was using it on Windows and I have all of the configuration files for it. |
| 23:19.43 | dizzylizzy | Let's hope the configuration files are stored the same between windows and debian, then! |
| 23:19.50 | Lady_Aleena | I can't even remember my password for freenode. |
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| 23:20.41 | mouz\lex | Lady_Aleena: you should be able to change the general font configuration in KDE's settings manager |
| 23:21.03 | Lady_Aleena | mouz\lex: I'm looking for it, but haven't found it yet. |
| 23:21.40 | codygman | For some reason glxinfo Says my GLX version is 1.4... how can I upgrade this? I have an nvidia gtx 660m. I thought mesa 9.2 supported OpenGL 2.0, does it? |
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| 23:24.10 | Lady_Aleena | Does KDE have a channel? I can't find how to fix this so I can read it. |
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| 23:24.24 | epifanio | Hi |
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| 23:24.31 | oo_miguel | hi, the power just went off for a while and i wonder what data might get lost or damaged in such a case? I have all my partions as ext4 |
| 23:24.34 | epifanio | i just installed a linux OS (debian sid) starting from a minimal netinstall .. i now added a desktop environment (xfce) and other SW .. i'm having troubles in loading https websites , everything requires access to https (pip, github etc) .. doesn't work |
| 23:24.36 | oo_miguel | how often do they write to disk? |
| 23:24.48 | epifanio | something is wrong with https support, .. the github website (it is https) looks like without style (css and js is not loaded) , if i try to clone a repository it gave me this error : http://paste.debian.net/69605/ while if i try to install sw with python-pip .. i got this : http://paste.debian.net/69606/ |
| 23:25.02 | epifanio | have you any clue on what is missed ? |
| 23:26.47 | dizzylizzy | Lady_Aleena, yes, #kde :P |
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| 23:29.12 | codygman | epifanio: ca-certificates? |
| 23:30.12 | codygman | epifanio: Or perhaps libgnutls26? I'm not positive. Can you download from https using curl? |
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| 23:32.07 | epifanio | oh found the problem! |
| 23:32.17 | epifanio | ntpdate was not installed |
| 23:32.29 | epifanio | running : ntpdate -b -s -u pool.ntp.org fixed it! |
| 23:32.32 | codygman | epifanio: Oh... so time was off? |
| 23:32.58 | epifanio | was wrong and off .. yes |
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| 23:33.13 | epifanio | is a little armhf platform |
| 23:33.39 | epifanio | .. the kernel is still in the early stage .. i guess this can be one of the problem |
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| 23:41.52 | Lady_Aleena | Does Konqueror NOT have tabbed browsing? |
| 23:42.12 | Lady_Aleena | has a nervous breakdown. |
| 23:42.49 | Lady_Aleena | I need Firefox or whatever it is called on Debian. |
| 23:42.54 | brontosaurusrex | Lady_Aleena, usually its ctrl+t or ctrl+shift+t |
| 23:43.24 | brontosaurusrex | names iceweasel |
| 23:43.26 | Lady_Aleena | I need my bookmarks, my passowords, etc etc which I can sync with Firefox. |
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| 23:44.18 | Lady_Aleena | How do I get it? |
| 23:44.49 | brontosaurusrex | apt-get install iceweasel? |
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| 23:44.59 | Lady_Aleena | brontosaurusrex: where do I type that? |
| 23:45.04 | themill | Lady_Aleena: konqueror most certainly does tabbed browsing. You might want to "aptitude install iceweasel" though and you might want to look at mozilla.debian.net if you particularly want a newer version |
| 23:46.06 | codygman | I have nvidia-driver version 331 installed but glxinfo | grep version says I have GLX version 1.4.. what gives? The gtx 660m can support up to openGL 4.1. |
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| 23:46.22 | Lady_Aleena | I am going nuts. I can barely read the text on my screen, I can't get hexchat to install with a double click, I don't have email to get my reset freenode password, so I am completely melting down. |
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| 23:47.27 | themill | why don't you make the font size bigger then? |
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| 23:48.33 | abrotman | hexchat isn't in Debian? |
| 23:48.42 | abrotman | use xchat |
| 23:49.01 | Lady_Aleena | themill: I tried, I can't find where to do it. |
| 23:49.10 | themill | tried how? in what program? |
| 23:49.33 | Lady_Aleena | themill: I installed KDE, and I can't find where to make the font bigger. |
| 23:49.35 | vipintruder | sudo apt'get install xchat |
| 23:49.48 | abrotman | that won't work |
| 23:49.50 | themill | Lady_Aleena: system settings |
| 23:49.56 | Lady_Aleena | xchat is not freeware, it dies after a while unless I pay for it. |
| 23:50.05 | themill | not true |
| 23:50.12 | abrotman | xchat is free for linux |
| 23:50.21 | abrotman | So much misinformation |
| 23:50.27 | brontosaurusrex | :) |
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| 23:52.09 | pixi | d |
| 23:52.12 | pixi | hello |
| 23:52.18 | Lady_Aleena | I'm in System Settings, now where? |
| 23:52.37 | pixi | I have installed debian on one partition then I installed windows 7 on other partition and now when pc starts I don't get menu to choose whiuch os to start |
| 23:52.41 | themill | Lady_Aleena: you're capable of reading the descriptions or searching just as easily as me |
| 23:52.43 | pixi | windows start automatically |
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| 23:52.59 | pixi | debian was working fine before I installed windows 7 on my free partition |
| 23:53.03 | pixi | how can I fix this? |
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| 23:55.26 | peterrooney | pixi: first, ALWAYS install windows first. Microsoft will never respect the bootloader. |
| 23:55.46 | MrMonkey31 | codygman: GLX is something different |
| 23:56.02 | pixi | ok peterrooney but now I am in this situation :S |
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| 23:56.22 | pixi | what can I do now? |
| 23:56.33 | pixi | can I start linux again somehow? |
| 23:56.37 | peterrooney | pixi: second, grab your install media and boot into rescue mode. re-install grub, which should take a few preliminary steps to get to. |
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| 23:56.56 | pixi | how to install grub |
| 23:56.58 | pixi | what is grub |
| 23:57.13 | pixi | should I install that from windows 7 installation dvd? |
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| 23:58.07 | MrMonkey31 | pixi: grub is the bootloader of choice for linux, the command goes like sudo grub-install /dev/yourdevice |
| 23:58.13 | pixi | should I install grub from debian installation usb? |
| 23:58.26 | pixi | I am not sure |
| 23:58.29 | pixi | what to do honestly |
| 23:58.35 | pixi | can you exaplain please :S |
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| 23:58.55 | pixi | so when I insert debian installation usb |
| 23:59.00 | pixi | what to do nexT? |
| 23:59.05 | pixi | boot in rescue mode? |
| 23:59.08 | abrotman | !enter |
| 23:59.08 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 23:59.15 | pixi | then install grub? but how? |
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