| 00:00.47 | ziftex | jhutchins, thanks. But have follow guides for debian. also i'm certified CCNA and ATA Networks. |
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| 00:04.16 | Lorcatar | Hello |
| 00:04.23 | vs73nx | hi |
| 00:04.46 | Lorcatar | How can I add the testing repos? Is there a guide? |
| 00:04.56 | Lorcatar | I want the new version of gnome. |
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| 00:05.32 | ziftex | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting |
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| 00:13.47 | Lorcatar | thanks ziftex I am excited :-) |
| 00:16.46 | Lorcatar | Okay please look over my sources.conf |
| 00:16.57 | Lorcatar | I mean .list |
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| 00:18.11 | Lorcatar | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ac9920677da384b1d682 |
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| 00:18.50 | Lorcatar | Here is the message I am getting 'E: The value 'stable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources' |
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| 00:22.19 | petn-randall | Lorcatar: Check the config file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/, the Default-Release is probably set there. |
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| 00:23.10 | petn-randall | Lorcatar: You are aware that you need to fully upgrade to jessie for it to work? You can't mix stable and testing. Also, from then on you'll only get support in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. |
| 00:23.35 | petn-randall | Lorcatar: (just a few of the usual disclaimers) |
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| 00:25.28 | Lorcatar | Oh |
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| 00:25.44 | Lorcatar | Well Someone told me that I could just add the testing repos to stable. |
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| 00:27.45 | petn-randall | Lorcatar: Please shoot this person with a poisoned gibbet ;) |
| 00:28.41 | Lorcatar | -_- Thanks petn-randall that makes me feel better after getting angry at google for not allowing me to find some information on how to do this. It makes sense now that I know it is impossible |
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| 00:30.18 | petn-randall | Lorcatar: It's not impossible, actually suprisingly many people do this and then seek for support here because it doesn't break immediately, but after 1-6 months. Which is why there's always a discussion how it worked before and back and forth. |
| 00:30.39 | petn-randall | Lorcatar: It always makes me cringe D: |
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| 00:30.56 | Lorcatar | Me too. I am just going to install testing |
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| 00:31.02 | johnnyL | I'm looking to serve LAMP on a secure linux. My debian firewall has been faithful but my debian GUI desktop was broken into. I'd like to still server debian as a webserver but looking to also use it as a client. should i virtualize? what should I do? |
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| 00:32.03 | Penix | johnnyL: how was it 'broken into'? |
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| 00:33.04 | Penix | virtualization isn't going to help if you've got a poorly or misconfigured system |
| 00:33.31 | johnnyL | Penix. I had extra users logged into my computer. |
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| 00:33.51 | Penix | johnnyL: but, what did they do or use to compromise that system? |
| 00:33.57 | petn-randall | johnnyL: That's called 'usage'? |
| 00:34.20 | xaec | wow, Rhythmbox doesn't even handle .m3u streams.. anyone have a recommended music player other than Rhythmbox? |
| 00:34.25 | johnnyL | Penix, I'm guessing you partially wrote debian or you wouldn't be asking this? |
| 00:34.41 | Penix | johnnyL: umm..what? |
| 00:34.49 | johnnyL | Anyway, someone when I do a shutdown it warns that extra users are logged into my system. |
| 00:34.59 | Penix | johnnyL: I'm asking because I'm trying to determine what you may need to do to prevent this from happening in the future |
| 00:35.14 | johnnyL | it may have been other root accounts. |
| 00:35.35 | johnnyL | it didn't happen all the time. |
| 00:35.53 | petn-randall | xaec: It does here ... any error messages? |
| 00:36.38 | petn-randall | johnnyL: Uhm, that is *NOT* an indication that your system got broken into. |
| 00:36.39 | Penix | johnnyL: so, did you investigate further? were there actually remote connections from logged in users at the time? |
| 00:36.58 | johnnyL | Penix. they pegged my Flash quite a few times. |
| 00:37.10 | Penix | they did what with the what now? |
| 00:37.11 | johnnyL | My core for flash overloaded. |
| 00:37.31 | johnnyL | Then later while trying to shutdown I get the warning message about the extra users. |
| 00:37.35 | Penix | johnnyL: so, your browser's flash plugin crashed? that's not exactly a surprising thing to have happen |
| 00:37.39 | johnnyL | i'm staying away from Flash from now on. |
| 00:37.57 | johnnyL | no it didn't crash. it was overloaded from outside my network. |
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| 00:38.10 | xaec | petn-randall: not in the gui, would it have a logfile.. ? |
| 00:38.16 | petn-randall | johnnyL: You said "My core for flash overloaded.", care to elaborate what you mean with that? |
| 00:38.18 | Penix | johnnyL: what does that mean? how did you determine this? |
| 00:38.31 | johnnyL | tcpdump, top |
| 00:38.51 | petn-randall | johnnyL: 'last' shows you the most recent logins to your system. |
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| 00:39.02 | Penix | so, there were network connections possibly being initiated/handled by a flash plugin, and cpu load was high? |
| 00:39.04 | johnnyL | i deel that this conversation will further be one sided. |
| 00:39.12 | johnnyL | i feel that this conversation will further be one sided. |
| 00:39.34 | Penix | johnnyL: we're trying to help figure out whether what happened was what you think happened |
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| 00:40.02 | johnnyL | tor doesn't use flash because of security issues. |
| 00:40.11 | johnnyL | plus flash sucks for video. |
| 00:40.29 | Penix | where does tor come in to it? |
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| 00:40.48 | Penix | johnnyL: to somewhat answer your original question, debian is a secure, stable distro like many others |
| 00:40.49 | johnnyL | my firewall is a rock. |
| 00:40.56 | johnnyL | and it is debian. |
| 00:41.00 | petn-randall | http://xkcd.com/1180/ |
| 00:41.02 | Penix | johnnyL: but it cannot prevent vulnerabilities in closed, proprietary software |
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| 00:41.41 | Penix | johnnyL: you'll have no problems running debian on any sort of system, as long as you follow sensible security practices |
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| 00:42.32 | johnnyL | Penix: You mean next time I should wear a condoment? |
| 00:42.44 | Penix | do you have any other real questions? |
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| 00:42.53 | johnnyL | Next! |
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| 00:44.28 | petn-randall | plays paper against johnnyL's rock. |
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| 00:44.41 | johnnyL | what a pipp. |
| 00:47.03 | johnnyL | I came in here knowing politics trumps technology. |
| 00:47.16 | johnnyL | and leave the same. |
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| 00:47.52 | petn-randall | Wait, let's play best of 3! |
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| 00:52.38 | Penix | hope that was a bad attempt at trolling |
| 00:54.29 | petn-randall | Penix: I'm pretty sure he was trolling us on the latter half of the conversation. |
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| 01:03.35 | funyun | hi. i'm trying to install gedit but i get this error. can anyone help me? http://pastebin.com/P7KX3M68 |
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| 01:05.11 | mo1991 | funyun - are you mixing repositories? |
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| 01:05.38 | funyun | mo1991: not that i know of. how do i check? |
| 01:05.50 | ziftex | Gah.. houres on getting SSL working only to found out I forgot SSLEngine on |
| 01:05.55 | mo1991 | look at your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 01:06.28 | abrotman | or sohw us |
| 01:06.30 | abrotman | show |
| 01:06.41 | petn-randall | ziftex: Isn't it at least relieving to have found the fix? |
| 01:07.00 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell funyun about bat |
| 01:07.09 | ziftex | petn-randall, It sure is. Just wondering why chech config don't test for stuff like that. |
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| 01:07.50 | funyun | mo1991: http://pastebin.com/qRvQGu4D |
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| 01:09.48 | petn-randall | funyun: the bot should have sent you something by query. |
| 01:09.53 | mo1991 | looks ok to me.... did you do a sudo apt-get install update before trying to install gedit? |
| 01:10.04 | abrotman | might need a dist-upgrade? |
| 01:10.04 | mo1991 | or su root - apt-get install update |
| 01:10.16 | abrotman | possibly running wheezy before it was stable |
| 01:10.20 | funyun | petn-randall: http://pastebin.com/ekc3hG7w |
| 01:10.55 | funyun | abrotman: me or the other guy? |
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| 01:11.05 | abrotman | funyun: you |
| 01:11.31 | funyun | i installed wheezy 5 days after it went stable |
| 01:11.55 | petn-randall | funyun: And 'apt-cache policy'? |
| 01:12.15 | funyun | petn-randall: http://pastebin.com/ekc3hG7w |
| 01:12.34 | petn-randall | funyun: without gedit |
| 01:12.49 | petn-randall | funyun: Did you run 'apt-get update' or 'aptitude update' before? |
| 01:13.01 | funyun | petn-randall: http://pastebin.com/kvzgYeZy |
| 01:13.04 | funyun | petn-randall: yes |
| 01:13.10 | petn-randall | funyun: thanks |
| 01:13.38 | mo1991 | funyun, somehow you have a newer version of libgtk-3.0 than wheezy does - perhaps from backports? |
| 01:13.50 | petn-randall | funyun: You've got http://shell.ninthgate.se/packages/debian/ and http://packages.dotdeb.org/ in there. |
| 01:14.00 | mo1991 | libgtk-3-0 that is |
| 01:14.17 | funyun | mo1991: possibly. is there a way i can check? |
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| 01:14.34 | funyun | petn-randall: should those be removed? |
| 01:14.54 | mo1991 | well you pastebin says you have versiion 3.8.2-3 when current wheezy is 3.4.2-6 |
| 01:15.09 | petn-randall | funyun: and http://www.deb-multimedia.org. Could be one of them ship newer packages that clash with Debian's. |
| 01:15.17 | funyun | mo1991: so i should downgrade? |
| 01:15.29 | dvs | ...and there it is |
| 01:15.31 | mo1991 | did you install something from testing or sid? |
| 01:15.56 | petn-randall | funyun: Can you run: aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))' |
| 01:16.07 | petn-randall | funyun: This will list all packages not from Debian repositories. |
| 01:16.11 | funyun | mo1991: not that i know of. i have only installed things like mplayer, ffmpeg, wine. and stuff like that |
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| 01:16.50 | funyun | but i am sharing this server with someone else. but i don't even think he knows how to install things |
| 01:16.53 | mo1991 | funyun - well, if all of those are from stable repository it should't matter |
| 01:17.04 | Guest14164 | How do I get a package to reconfigure itself? |
| 01:17.05 | mo1991 | you have some stuff that is newer than wheezy somehow |
| 01:17.15 | Guest14164 | I think my JRE is messed up |
| 01:17.43 | funyun | petn-randall: -bash: syntax error near unexpected token `?not' |
| 01:18.35 | petn-randall | funyun: There are quotes around the last parameter. |
| 01:18.36 | funyun | mo1991: i did compile ffmpeg from a guide and not aptitude. could that be why? |
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| 01:19.13 | funyun | petn-randall: -bash: ?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT)): command not found |
| 01:19.53 | mo1991 | funyun - I really don't know - but as long as you compiled it from source and didn't install any other binary packages it shouldn't have upgraded any wheezy packages. |
| 01:19.55 | petn-randall | funyun: So you ran "aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))'"? |
| 01:20.23 | funyun | petn-randall: i'm retarded. didn't see the aptitude part. sorry |
| 01:20.25 | mo1991 | bottom line somehow you have "non-stable" packages installed other than your compiled ffmpeg |
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| 01:20.40 | petn-randall | funyun: No prob :) |
| 01:21.01 | petn-randall | mo1991: We're getting to that in a moment :) |
| 01:21.39 | funyun | petn-randall: http://pastebin.com/QaGeLY0f |
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| 01:22.12 | Thalheim | is there a sysadmin channel for Debian? |
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| 01:22.35 | Guest14164 | WHere is sources.list? |
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| 01:22.54 | petn-randall | Thalheim: This is in here, too. |
| 01:22.55 | mo1991 | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:23.22 | Thalheim | okay, then I found a typo on this page: "buildds" under the Hardware section of https://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatPort |
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| 01:24.03 | Guest14164 | Is Squeeze stable? |
| 01:24.11 | petn-randall | Guest14164: squeeze is oldstable. |
| 01:24.22 | Guest14164 | Maybe that is my problem. |
| 01:24.26 | Guest14164 | What is stable? |
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| 01:25.20 | Thalheim | and petn-randall also "THis" under 'Port naming debate notes" |
| 01:25.24 | dvs | Guest14164: wheezy |
| 01:25.29 | petn-randall | Guest14164: Current stable is wheezy. |
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| 01:27.28 | Guest14164 | I guess I am going to upgrade |
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| 01:27.35 | petn-randall | Thalheim: I don't have write access to that wiki, maybe someone else in here has. |
| 01:28.58 | petn-randall | Thalheim: buildd is short for 'build daemon', though the second instance of it might mean 'builds'. |
| 01:29.00 | dvs | Guest14164: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 01:31.00 | petn-randall | funyun: All those packages are not from Debian ... |
| 01:31.40 | petn-randall | funyun: Can you pick one out and check this assumption? 'apt-cache policy acpid' for example. |
| 01:32.43 | funyun | petn-randall: http://pastebin.com/LYC3Q3zk |
| 01:33.13 | petn-randall | funyun: Yepp, you're not running wheezy. |
| 01:33.34 | dvs | ,v acpid |
| 01:33.35 | judd | Package: acpid on i386 -- squeeze-security: 1:2.0.7-1squeeze3; squeeze: 1:2.0.7-1squeeze4; wheezy: 1:2.0.16-1+deb7u1; jessie: 1:2.0.20-1; sid: 1:2.0.20-1 |
| 01:33.46 | dvs | jessie or sid |
| 01:33.58 | funyun | petn-randall: :'( is there an easy way to fix that? |
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| 01:34.02 | petn-randall | funyun: Seems as though you upgraded to testing a few months back, probably by accident. |
| 01:34.03 | psiklops | Hi. |
| 01:34.28 | dvs | !tell funyun about downgrade |
| 01:34.48 | petn-randall | funyun: Downgrading isn't supported and usually doesn't work. Either you properly upgrade to jessie and enjoy living on the edge, or you reinstall. |
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| 01:35.59 | funyun | petn-randall: what could go wrong if i upload to jessie? |
| 01:36.06 | funyun | upgrade* |
| 01:36.30 | psiklops | Is there a libreoffice- package that doesnt install openjdk-7-jre ? |
| 01:36.39 | petn-randall | funyun: It can't get any worse, but jessie is still a little rough around the edges and only recommended for advanced users. |
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| 01:36.47 | psiklops | or must i build it from source ? |
| 01:37.02 | funyun | petn-randall: so i won't have this problem if i upgrade? |
| 01:37.07 | petn-randall | psiklops: You can pick any jre in stable. |
| 01:37.47 | psiklops | petn-randall: i would like to install libreoffice without jre |
| 01:37.53 | petn-randall | funyun: Right. Unless your system is even more broken, and I didn't notice it. But if my assumption is correct that you were on testing at some point, and don't have any packages from the other repos, this should work. |
| 01:38.45 | petn-randall | psiklops: Then don't install it, it's not a dependency. You'll loose some functionality though. |
| 01:39.12 | funyun | petn-randall: okay. should i do a !tell command to learn how to upgrade? or is it just a simple command? |
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| 01:39.57 | psiklops | petn-randall: i know ... but everytime i have installed libreoffice, it grabs openjr... too |
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| 01:40.14 | Penix | psiklops: because it's a recommended package, which are installed by default |
| 01:40.19 | funyun | petn-randall: is this correct? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie |
| 01:40.21 | Penix | psiklops: you can use --no-install-recommends if you like |
| 01:40.35 | psiklops | ahhh, thats the clue |
| 01:40.39 | psiklops | thanx alot!!! |
| 01:40.40 | funyun | i just don't want to do anything wrong and end up worse than i am now |
| 01:41.14 | petn-randall | dpkg: tell funyun about testing |
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| 01:41.37 | petn-randall | funyun: You can query the bot in the window it opened for you. |
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| 01:42.11 | zykotick9 | funyun: if you're going to jessie, see wheezy->jessie |
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| 01:42.37 | funyun | petn-randall: hmm. it says don't use it on a server. is that just a caution or does it not run on servers? |
| 01:42.42 | abrotman | what could go wrong |
| 01:43.21 | Penix | funyun: how important is your server to you? |
| 01:43.35 | petn-randall | funyun: It doesn't get the security support stable gets, and is a moving target, which makes it unfit for servers. Technically you could still install it on a server, though you really have to be install SM to enjoy that. |
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| 01:44.41 | funyun | Penix: it's my friends server. i'm just renting part of it for a cheap price. but i know it's important to him |
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| 01:45.53 | funyun | petn-randall: so do you think it would be best to just stay where i'm at now? is it more secure? gedit isn't a big deal to me. i can live without it |
| 01:45.57 | petn-randall | funyun: woops. Wait, you running gedit on the server? |
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| 01:46.09 | petn-randall | s/you/you're/ |
| 01:46.22 | funyun | petn-randall: no. i haven't installed it |
| 01:46.40 | dvs | but gnome might be there. |
| 01:46.43 | abrotman | servers don't run jessie |
| 01:47.04 | petn-randall | funyun: I was assuming this is a desktop machine because you were installing gedit. |
| 01:47.05 | dvs | In soviet russia... |
| 01:47.07 | Penix | they actually catch on fire if they detect jessie |
| 01:47.27 | petn-randall | Well, the admin will if he finds out ... |
| 01:47.34 | Penix | funyun: are you running remote X apps or something? |
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| 01:47.46 | funyun | Penix: yes. i have vncserver installed |
| 01:47.57 | chrisb | sources of the form file:/path/to/the/repo/mirror do not have an "origin" when listed in apt-cache policy |
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| 01:53.36 | funyun | do you guys think staying where i am now will affect other things? or just gedit? |
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| 01:54.08 | petn-randall | funyun: The way it is now is the worst case. You can't install anything right now, and won't receive updates. |
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| 01:54.30 | petn-randall | funyun: Since this is a server I recommend backing up important stuff and then reinstalling. |
| 01:55.10 | funyun | petn-randall: oh. so nothing will install? |
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| 01:56.13 | funyun | petn-randall: how could this switch to testing happen? what would i have done to get the server in this condition? |
| 01:56.14 | petn-randall | funyun: Probably most things will be broken with your current setup. |
| 01:56.17 | edju | Trying to install Wheezy (which I've done many times). Downloaded the netinst file three times and dd'd to two different usb sticks. Each of those install attempts aborted at "coreutils is corrupt". I don't get it. Any advice greatly appreciated. |
| 01:56.49 | dvs | funyun: Someone installed stuff from testing or sid then switched it back again. |
| 01:56.55 | petn-randall | edju: Did you check the md5sum of the image on the USB stick? |
| 01:57.46 | petn-randall | dvs: This is dangerous since basically *all* packages are on testing from a few months back. |
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| 01:58.10 | edju | petn-randall, No, I'll try to find it. But on three diffferent downloads? |
| 01:58.55 | funyun | petn-randall: does this sound like my server might have potentially been hacked? because i don't know how to do what you just said and i'm 99% positive the other user of the server has no clue |
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| 02:00.18 | petn-randall | edju: That's why I suspect the USB stick being broken. |
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| 02:01.57 | athene_noctua | Hi, from what I gather, debian is a more stable OS that doesn't get regular kernel updates as fast as other linux distros. If that is mostly correct, I am wondering if I should be concerned about updating my kernel version. |
| 02:02.34 | athene_noctua | Particularly with concern for security. |
| 02:02.36 | Penix | athene_noctua: it gets security updates just like any other stable distro release |
| 02:02.51 | Penix | athene_noctua: the major version doesn't change, but security fixes are still applied |
| 02:03.08 | athene_noctua | So, when I'm getting security updates they are being applied to the kernel? |
| 02:03.17 | athene_noctua | If they are for the kernel, I mean. |
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| 02:03.24 | athene_noctua | Sounds dumb, but you get what I'm saying? |
| 02:03.56 | Penix | athene_noctua: well, yes, if there's an updated kernel package available and you install it, then the kernel has been upgraded to the latest build with the security fixes |
| 02:03.57 | edju | petn-randall, Two different sticks? I suppose. |
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| 02:04.30 | Penix | athene_noctua: 'latest build' meaning the latest build of the stable kernel version in the debian stable branch |
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| 02:05.13 | petn-randall | edju: which guide are you following and which links are you using? |
| 02:05.19 | athene_noctua | Alright. So, I would venture a guess and say the current stable kernel version for wheezy would be 3.2.0-4? |
| 02:06.26 | Penix | athene_noctua: something like that. packages.debian.org is handy |
| 02:06.45 | petn-randall | ,v linux-image |
| 02:06.46 | judd | No package named 'linux-image' was found in i386. |
| 02:06.59 | athene_noctua | cool, I will take a look at that. thanks! |
| 02:07.16 | dvs | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 02:07.17 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.11+54~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.11+54; sid: 3.11+54 |
| 02:07.32 | eriberto | judd: try to use linux-image-i386 |
| 02:07.43 | petn-randall | athene_noctua: Is there a reason you need a newer kernel? |
| 02:07.52 | petn-randall | eriberto: judd is a bot. |
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| 02:08.56 | petn-randall | ,v linux-image-amd64 --arch amd64 |
| 02:08.57 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.11+54~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.11+54; sid: 3.11+54 |
| 02:09.13 | athene_noctua | petn-randall: no, no reason at all. I was just feeling inquisitive after reading some articles about this stuff. |
| 02:09.26 | eriberto | pent-randall: thanks! |
| 02:09.27 | athene_noctua | petn-randall: I'm not doing any custom tweaking or anything like that. :) |
| 02:09.46 | somiaj | kernels is another useful trigger judd has if you just want version numbers and not care about the arch |
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| 02:10.01 | petn-randall | athene_noctua: Unless you're missing features or drivers it's best practice to just use the default one. It gets the most testing and the quickest security updates. |
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| 02:11.03 | athene_noctua | petn-randall: Cool, my concern was mostly surrounding issues of security. |
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| 02:13.01 | tiron | can I use Autofs as an automatic replacement for an ntfs-3g mount of an external device that seems to keep disconnecting/reconnecting? |
| 02:13.07 | tiron | or is it not meant for that? |
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| 02:13.19 | petn-randall | athene_noctua: You're welcome. Feel free to hang out here and ask more questions if you have any. |
| 02:14.23 | petn-randall | tiron: It might mitigate the problem, but depending on the usage it will still give you problems. |
| 02:14.50 | petn-randall | tiron: Is it an USB HDD you want to unplug on-the-fly? |
| 02:14.59 | edju | petn-randall, Not using any guide. Now downloading the netinst for the 4th time, and will dd to yet another sick, and we;ll see. |
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| 02:15.16 | petn-randall | edju: Just check the md5sum! |
| 02:18.13 | petn-randall | edju: http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#verify |
| 02:18.38 | abrotman | wonders why petn-randall is still awake |
| 02:18.51 | petn-randall | never sleeps. |
| 02:18.53 | petn-randall | waits. |
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| 02:22.36 | tiron | petn-randall: just an external (USB) hard drive that seems to be all over the place, I have to physically go over and disconnect/reconnect both its power/usb cables every time it unmounts forwhatever reason |
| 02:23.36 | Penix | tiron: if you have to physically unplug it, autofs won't help |
| 02:24.11 | tiron | Penix: but it will save me the hassle of having to cat /proc/partitions , ntfs-3g mount /dev/blahblah2 /media/whatever every single time. |
| 02:24.29 | tiron | I wrote a bash script to do it, but I'd still rather have it be "automatic" |
| 02:25.09 | jiohdi | if I want to lighten my debian install, whats the biggest things I can safely gut... not a developer not a programmer here. |
| 02:25.18 | Penix | might be able to have udev handle the automount part |
| 02:25.47 | Penix | probably not the best solution though |
| 02:26.07 | petn-randall | jiohdi: What do you want to achieve? Save disk space, or have less daemons/programs start up? |
| 02:26.19 | jiohdi | less daemons |
| 02:26.31 | Penix | jiohdi: figure out whether you need those daemons |
| 02:26.38 | ectospasm | jiohdi: think of what you need, and uninstall the ones you don't. |
| 02:27.01 | ectospasm | One exercise could be examining the output of netstat -p as root, and determining which services you don't need. |
| 02:27.13 | jiohdi | there must be something you guys know off the top of your heads that no one uses but programmers or devs |
| 02:27.27 | ectospasm | jiohdi: that's too vague of a question |
| 02:27.27 | Penix | logic? |
| 02:27.36 | tiron | jiohdi: if this is for a web server: http://lowendbox.com/blog/yes-you-can-run-18-static-sites-on-a-64mb-link-1-vps/ |
| 02:27.51 | jiohdi | no just a home desktop with low ram |
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| 02:28.32 | ectospasm | jiohdi: we can't begin to tell you what you would or would not use. |
| 02:28.37 | Penix | jiohdi: look at what is running on your system, check the package description and determine whether the application is critical to your system working properly |
| 02:28.44 | jiohdi | just a thought |
| 02:29.06 | jiohdi | penix, good start, thanx |
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| 02:31.33 | enthdegree | Hello all |
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| 02:32.10 | enthdegree | Debian is doing DHCPDiscover on boot |
| 02:32.19 | enthdegree | which makes booting R E A L L Y S L O W |
| 02:32.50 | petn-randall | enthdegree: Only if you configured it to. |
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| 02:34.41 | enthdegree | petn-randall: |
| 02:34.47 | enthdegree | how do i unconfigure it |
| 02:35.41 | enthdegree | o nevermind ic thankyou |
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| 02:41.44 | eriberto | can someone indicate a good and easy video cutter? |
| 02:42.11 | jevon_ | avidemux |
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| 02:43.18 | eriberto | ok. thanks. |
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| 02:44.20 | abrotman | kdenlive |
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| 02:51.34 | eriberto | abrotman: is easy to use kdenlive? |
| 02:52.31 | jevon_ | pretty easy |
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| 03:05.37 | enthdegree | kdenlive is supre nies to work with |
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| 03:14.42 | Guest75179 | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 03:14.53 | Guest75179 | openjdk-6-jre |
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| 03:15.35 | Guest75179 | Anybody know what that means during apt-get upgrade? |
| 03:15.48 | eriberto | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 03:16.24 | Guest75179 | ? |
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| 03:17.19 | eriberto | use apt-get dist-upgrade instead upgrade to install openjdk |
| 03:18.01 | Guest75179 | I intend to do a dist-upgrade shortly. |
| 03:18.19 | Guest75179 | I wanted to make sure my system was alright and I got that. |
| 03:19.15 | eriberto | dist-upgrade is used to install package that will put new dependencies on your system |
| 03:19.24 | Guest75179 | I had java working in Squeeze before doing regular upgrade yesterday. |
| 03:19.52 | eriberto | Try apt-get dist-upgrade. You can cancel using 'N' |
| 03:20.24 | Guest75179 | Should I run dist-upgrade in Squeeze before changing sources.list to Wheezy? |
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| 03:20.57 | eriberto | yes |
| 03:21.17 | eriberto | dist-upgrade isn't a method to change version |
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| 03:21.43 | eriberto | is a way to upgrade packages with aditional dependencies. |
| 03:22.12 | arthurfiggis | thanks to everyone who figured out my issue with the backports nvidia drivers with wheezy, i'm back up and running in debian again :) just as well, i tried opensuse and the installer crashed out trying to create an encrypted lvm layout :( |
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| 03:22.28 | eriberto | try... |
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| 03:28.03 | Guest75179 | Now my Java is fixed. |
| 03:28.05 | Guest75179 | Thank you. |
| 03:28.19 | Guest75179 | I think I better upgrade or I will have problems. |
| 03:28.42 | Guest75179 | Not a good idea to stay in Squeeze anymore? |
| 03:29.14 | ectospasm | Guest75179: it will get progressively worse as time goes on |
| 03:29.43 | Guest75179 | How long has Squeeze been out of date? |
| 03:30.14 | Guest75179 | I rely on this program now. No Microsoft in this house. |
| 03:30.20 | ectospasm | Since about April of this year. |
| 03:30.39 | zykotick9 | Guest75179: squeeze is still old-stable, it's still getting security updates. for a couple more months. |
| 03:31.02 | eriberto | Squeeze will be supported up to april 2014 |
| 03:31.10 | eriberto | Upgrade to Wheezy |
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| 03:32.25 | arthurfiggis | Guest75179: oh i'm much the same, i run linux only...and right now on this finnicky uefi/gpt-based setup debian is the only thing that boots reliably with luks enabled...plus with wheezy-backports i have a working version of the nvidia drivers :) it's very well done |
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| 03:33.07 | Guest75179 | I had a dual boot with Vista and Vista died. |
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| 03:34.47 | fraktor | hi |
| 03:34.55 | fraktor | so I'm trying to install a program through apt-get. |
| 03:35.14 | fraktor | it's a program that can only be installed with apt-get (non-free, no actual download) |
| 03:35.19 | fraktor | and it needs libssl0.9.8 |
| 03:35.25 | fraktor | however, I have libssl1.0.0. |
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| 03:35.45 | fraktor | how can I make this work? I can't compile it, because it's non-free. |
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| 03:39.20 | ectospasm | non-free doesn't ipso facto mean you can't compile it. |
| 03:39.29 | ectospasm | Just that it is not free (as in speech) |
| 03:39.39 | ectospasm | Look at the nvidia drivers |
| 03:40.01 | ectospasm | they're non free, but you have to compile some of the bits to work with whatever kernel you've chosen. |
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| 03:42.46 | klys | the latest 3.12.3 kernel has nvidiafb |
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| 03:47.18 | fraktor | I see. |
| 03:47.22 | fraktor | well, it's spotify. |
| 03:47.26 | fraktor | they don't offer the sources. |
| 03:48.58 | Arrowmaster | can you install the older version of libssl from a different version of debian? |
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| 03:49.18 | fraktor | I'm not sure. |
| 03:49.25 | Arrowmaster | if they are different package names you should be able to just install that then the other will install |
| 03:49.34 | fraktor | I know that spotify was actually packaged for Squeeze (I'm running Wheezy) |
| 03:49.46 | fraktor | but libssl0.9.8 is not an option. |
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| 03:53.03 | ectospasm | fraktor: I believe when I installed spotify a few months ago I grabbed the 0.9.8 deb from the squeeze side of packages.debian.org |
| 03:53.15 | ectospasm | I don't remember if libssl had many (if any) dependencies. |
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| 04:16.23 | proton1h1_ | hello guys .. |
| 04:16.37 | proton1h1_ | I know little bit about OS .. |
| 04:16.49 | ectospasm | open source or operating system? |
| 04:16.51 | proton1h1_ | just want to know... is Debain=gnome+linux |
| 04:16.56 | proton1h1_ | can we say that ..?? |
| 04:17.25 | rryoumaa | no |
| 04:17.44 | proton1h1_ | linux for backend ...and gnome for gui ..! |
| 04:17.57 | proton1h1_ | i feel it that way ...! |
| 04:18.02 | wols | proton1h1_: no |
| 04:18.04 | ectospasm | Debian can use almost any DE |
| 04:18.06 | rryoumaa | by default, yes, but you can choose other things, and there are other programs besides gui |
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| 04:18.17 | ectospasm | proton1h1_: Debian defaults to GNOME, if that's what you mean |
| 04:18.48 | proton1h1_ | no @ectospasm ...I'm not starting discussion about Gnome/KDE or other.. |
| 04:18.55 | ectospasm | ...if you install the Desktop Environment task, it will install GNOME. |
| 04:19.09 | proton1h1_ | i just want to understand ..what debian is actually as complete picture .. |
| 04:19.45 | ectospasm | !debian |
| 04:19.45 | dpkg | [debian] http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
| 04:20.04 | wols | proton1h1_: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch01s03.html.en |
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| 04:22.42 | proton1h1_ | @wols thnx ...is that mean ....debian =linux+gnome(anyGUI)+some open source software ... |
| 04:23.34 | proton1h1_ | sorry for my english guys .. |
| 04:23.40 | proton1h1_ | i'm not a native speaker .! |
| 04:23.47 | wols | it means debian is a distro of open source software. debian not only uses linux but HURD and BSD too |
| 04:23.51 | wols | as kernels that is |
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| 04:24.13 | wols | !in |
| 04:24.13 | dpkg | in is, like, India. For Debian India, see #debian-in |
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| 04:25.16 | proton1h1_ | ok ...I'll go to #debian-in ....but final notes... |
| 04:25.40 | proton1h1_ | debian is (kernel)+UI interface(like gnome)+some open source software ... |
| 04:26.31 | proton1h1_ | if anyone wishes to make something like debian..he needs kernel +some UI(gnome or unity or kde)+he can use some open source software .. |
| 04:26.36 | wols | it's a linux distribution http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distribution |
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| 04:30.22 | proton1h1_ | got it .! |
| 04:31.14 | proton1h1_ | thank you .! |
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| 06:10.35 | dizzylizzy | what's the apt command for finding out what package provides a binary? |
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| 06:11.17 | dizzylizzy | oh, it's apt-file |
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| 06:35.54 | somiaj | dizzylizzy: if it is on your system, dpkg -S works too |
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| 06:44.58 | athene_noctua | dizzylizzy: I think that apt-cache showpkg shows it as well . . . |
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| 06:53.05 | hurdos | Hi |
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| 06:55.43 | hurdos | Why does not work correctly sudo after upgrade dist squeeze->wheezy? Try 'sudo apt-get autoremove' and got error that show 'dpkg does not see /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin и /sbin' |
| 06:55.50 | hurdos | How to fix it? |
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| 07:06.26 | wols | hurdos: does sudo bash and then apt-get.... work? |
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| 07:07.02 | hurdos | I found the problem :) |
| 07:07.18 | hurdos | need add 'Defaults secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"' |
| 07:07.36 | hurdos | via visudo |
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| 07:26.29 | rtc | how can I install skype on debian 7 ? |
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| 07:26.50 | wols | !skype |
| 07:26.50 | dpkg | Skype is a proprietary cross-platform <VoIP> service and application owned by Microsoft. Debian cannot distribute the application due to its license. See http://wiki.debian.org/skype and ask me about <skype amd64>, <skype squeeze> for community-contributed information. Consider using free and secure alternatives: <ekiga>, <empathy>, <jitsi>, <linphone>. |
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| 07:27.57 | rtc | !skype amd64 |
| 07:27.58 | dpkg | From Debian 7 "Wheezy" onwards, installing Skype on amd64 requires you to make use of <multi-arch>. «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update && wget -O skype-install.deb http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-deb && dpkg -i skype-install.deb ; apt-get -f install». See also http://wiki.debian.org/skype#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22 |
| 07:28.49 | wols | !tell rtc about selftell |
| 07:28.59 | rtc | wols thanks |
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| 07:29.33 | rtc | if I use empathy will I be able to chat to my skype contacts? |
| 07:29.58 | rtc | !skype skype squeeze |
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| 07:30.03 | rtc | !skype squeeze |
| 07:30.03 | dpkg | To install <skype> in Debian 6.0 "Squeeze", you need to grab the "Generic Dynamic" version of Skype (not the .deb version), unpack the tarball and then install the required libraries with apt. For amd64, you also need to manually unpack some i386 libraries into the installation directory. See https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12120/getting-started-with-skype-for-linux ("Downloading and installing Skype on Debian") for more information. |
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| 07:31.16 | rtc | I get this : dpkg: error processing skype (--install): |
| 07:31.16 | rtc | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:31.34 | rtc | when I do this sudo dpkg -i skype-debian_4.2.0.11-1_i386.deb |
| 07:31.39 | rtc | wols ^ |
| 07:32.43 | somiaj | rtc: run 'apt-get -f install' |
| 07:33.21 | rtc | is there something like empathy that supports skype? |
| 07:33.48 | somiaj | rtc: not that i know of. Do you have multiarch enabled. |
| 07:33.57 | rtc | I did apt-get -f install |
| 07:33.58 | somiaj | that command should use the online repos and go get all the depends you are missing |
| 07:34.03 | rtc | now I am waiting it installs something |
| 07:34.10 | rtc | I am not sure what is apt-get -f install I am not sure what I am doing :S |
| 07:34.12 | somiaj | it should finish installing skype for youi |
| 07:34.26 | rtc | lets see :) |
| 07:34.28 | somiaj | it is fixing your install, by finding the depends you were missing for that skype deb |
| 07:34.31 | rtc | but what means this command apt-get -f install |
| 07:34.31 | somiaj | and then installing it for you |
| 07:34.39 | rtc | I hate when I do something I have no idea about it :S |
| 07:34.49 | rtc | aha nice |
| 07:34.50 | rtc | :) |
| 07:34.55 | rtc | dependencies for all packages? |
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| 07:35.15 | rtc | because I wrote apt-get -f install |
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| 07:35.27 | rtc | it will find and install dependencies for all packages? |
| 07:35.32 | rtc | i didi this |
| 07:35.36 | somiaj | skype was only partially installed, and thus your isntall was broken |
| 07:35.36 | rtc | what to do now? |
| 07:35.48 | rtc | it finished what should I do now? |
| 07:35.55 | somiaj | so apt will try to fix that, in this case it could fix it by dowloading what youa re missing |
| 07:35.58 | somiaj | run skhype |
| 07:35.58 | somiaj | skype |
| 07:36.00 | somiaj | its now installed |
| 07:36.01 | rtc | did |
| 07:36.02 | rtc | ^^ |
| 07:36.30 | rtc | hmm |
| 07:36.34 | rtc | nothing hapens :S |
| 07:36.51 | somiaj | do you have a system tray? see it running there |
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| 07:37.09 | somiaj | it sould have opened up the skype window |
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| 07:37.41 | rtc | it runed after 5 min wiating :D |
| 07:37.50 | rtc | THank you somiaj thanks :) |
| 07:37.51 | rtc | nice |
| 07:37.55 | rtc | its running |
| 07:38.10 | rtc | multiarch means I can run programs for 386 computers? |
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| 07:38.43 | rtc | omg skype for debvian looks bad :D |
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| 07:41.10 | somiaj | that is probabaly the qt widget set you have, that is configurable |
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| 07:51.13 | mikodo | Hi, If I install Debian "Testing", and install to it Compiz 0.8.8 which is the last stable version, would it be updated, or would it stay as the version I installed, like I would want it too? |
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| 07:54.13 | somiaj | mikodo: are you installing the 0.8.8 version via source in /usr/local? |
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| 07:55.04 | rtc | anyone here used pip |
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| 07:55.30 | mikodo | Somiaj, sorry I was away, I don't know where I would install it |
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| 07:55.43 | rtc | when I try to upgrade package with pip using sudo pip --upgrade install package name it says no such option: -u-upgrade |
| 07:56.12 | somiaj | mikodo: how are you installing it? with './configure' 'make' 'make install' ? |
| 07:56.21 | mikodo | somiaj Yes |
| 07:56.36 | mikodo | somiaj, I am not going to do it today |
| 07:56.47 | mikodo | just hypothetical |
| 07:56.51 | somiaj | mikodo: most likely if the scripts are sane will install that in /usr/local |
| 07:57.08 | somiaj | mikodo: in that case it is independent of the dpkg packing system. It can run there just fine, but dpkg will not know it is there |
| 07:57.32 | mikodo | somiaj, good then! Thank you! |
| 07:57.49 | somiaj | mikodo: thus it won't be upgraded or messed with |
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| 07:58.05 | mikodo | somiaj, Wonderful! |
| 07:58.07 | somiaj | mikodo: you may want to look at the package 'stow', it allows you to manage stuff in /usr/local from source making isntalling/removing it easier |
| 07:58.22 | somiaj | mainly the removing it part |
| 07:58.32 | mikodo | somiaj, Alright |
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| 09:36.42 | rtc65 | how can I delete directory and everything in it |
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| 09:37.09 | well_laid_lawn | rm -r ? |
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| 09:38.57 | kleanchap | I have question that is not in anyway related to Debian. Yahoo Mail. I am very disappointed with the new Yahoo Mail and now looking to switch. Is there any other online mail service that provides sub-addressing? |
| 09:39.30 | well_laid_lawn | even yahoo employees aren't using yahoo mail apparently |
| 09:40.27 | kleanchap | well_laid_lawn: I heard that. The new email was pushed on to the users. |
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| 09:40.56 | well_laid_lawn | I read it on reddit |
| 09:41.43 | kleanchap | Does reddit support sub-addressing? |
| 09:42.06 | Quashie_ | reddit isn't a mail provider |
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| 09:42.29 | Quashie_ | it's a link/comment aggregator |
| 09:42.53 | kleanchap | :-) Sorry. |
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| 09:43.17 | kleanchap | I thought it was like Yahoo and Google with email service. |
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| 09:44.38 | Quashie_ | when you say "sub-addressing", you mean you want john+work@gmail.com to resolve to john@gmail.com? |
| 09:44.52 | Quashie_ | because gmail does that |
| 09:44.55 | kleanchap | Yes! |
| 09:48.14 | kleanchap | Is there a limit on gmail sub-addressing? I have about 30 sub-address in Yahoo for various airlines, forums and shopping etc. |
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| 09:52.55 | rtc65 | I have program that I am installing when I try to install it it says this import MySQLdb |
| 09:52.56 | rtc65 | ImportError: No module named MySQLdb |
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| 09:53.05 | rtc65 | but I have this module installed I think |
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| 10:06.18 | g0d | Hello guys, I have a Google Fiber internet connection and I use Debian Wheezy 64-Bit, How can I use Google Fiber on Debian? I am confused. |
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| 10:07.42 | Penix | g0d: what do they provide on your end? some sort of ethernet connection? is it simple dhcp, pppoe? |
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| 10:07.59 | g0d | they gave me some cables. |
| 10:08.06 | reisio | go-to KDE apt frontend? |
| 10:08.13 | Penix | g0d: and no documentation? |
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| 10:08.36 | g0d | google fiber is basically fiber optics. |
| 10:08.44 | g0d | yep. |
| 10:08.50 | g0d | I just received the cable-like stuff. |
| 10:09.18 | Penix | g0d: it must terminate at your end via some sort of ethernet connection. nobody has a fiber card in your home system |
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| 10:09.39 | g0d | I also received a big black box. |
| 10:09.43 | Penix | g0d: and surely there is some sort of physical or online docs about how to connect. if not, call them |
| 10:09.43 | g0d | is fiber internet like wifi? |
| 10:09.53 | Penix | g0d: are you serious? |
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| 10:10.01 | g0d | I am confused. |
| 10:10.07 | Penix | clearly |
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| 10:10.19 | g0d | so it is like a wifi? |
| 10:10.23 | g0d | ah. |
| 10:10.23 | g0d | now I got it. |
| 10:10.39 | Penix | if you're not even sure what sort of connection you just ordered, we can't help you |
| 10:11.07 | Penix | so many trolls lately |
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| 10:11.36 | well_laid_lawn | mmmm trolls |
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| 10:21.52 | Lady_Aleena | If anyone is here from last night/morning, I have sound finally... |
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| 10:23.31 | well_laid_lawn | woot |
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| 10:24.00 | well_laid_lawn | it's all a learning process |
| 10:24.18 | well_laid_lawn | bet you know lots about your system now |
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| 11:04.59 | rtc65 | is there a way to run debian 6 application on debian 7? |
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| 11:07.37 | CheckDavid | What are the risks of force shutting down on debian? |
| 11:07.43 | reisio | rtc65: don't cross post, baby |
| 11:07.46 | CheckDavid | let's say I close most stuff |
| 11:07.51 | CheckDavid | And then just press the shutdown button |
| 11:07.57 | CheckDavid | Or unplug the machine |
| 11:07.58 | reisio | CheckDavid: the hardware button? |
| 11:08.01 | CheckDavid | yes |
| 11:08.03 | reisio | unplugging is riskier |
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| 11:08.09 | CheckDavid | ok, then not unplugging |
| 11:08.18 | CheckDavid | Force shutting down with the button |
| 11:08.28 | reisio | it's not great, but probably nothing at all will change |
| 11:08.33 | reisio | why? :) |
| 11:08.36 | reisio | can't CTRL+ALT+F2? |
| 11:08.47 | galex-713 | Why GnuTLS is so old on Debian stable? |
| 11:08.55 | reisio | galex-713: it's not old, it's stable |
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| 11:09.32 | CheckDavid | reisio, well, because when I force shutdown, and turn it back on, debian/iceweasel opens exactly the way I left it, and the windows stay the same size |
| 11:09.35 | CheckDavid | It's so convenient |
| 11:09.41 | reisio | CheckDavid: heheheh |
| 11:09.44 | CheckDavid | lol I know |
| 11:09.53 | galex-713 | There’s some decades of minor versions and at least one major version from the newest version… |
| 11:09.55 | reisio | that's your session manager in action |
| 11:09.57 | CheckDavid | Well, so I wonder, if there is another way of emulating thsi effect |
| 11:10.03 | reisio | galex-713: what's your point? |
| 11:10.05 | galex-713 | And this version doesn’t support ECDHE! :o |
| 11:10.19 | reisio | CheckDavid: why emulate it when you already have it for real |
| 11:10.23 | galex-713 | reisio, it doesn’t support ECDHE, the version is very old |
| 11:10.26 | reisio | galex-713: which version do you want? |
| 11:10.32 | CissWit | CheckDavid: you should just hibernate |
| 11:10.34 | CheckDavid | reisio, but it only works when I force shutdown |
| 11:10.38 | reisio | "very old" is not a reason to complain |
| 11:10.42 | reisio | "doesn't support ECDHE" is, maybe |
| 11:10.48 | reisio | CheckDavid: ah |
| 11:10.52 | reisio | CheckDavid: what wm/DE? |
| 11:11.00 | CheckDavid | how do I get that info?= |
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| 11:11.06 | reisio | CheckDavid: GNOME? |
| 11:11.15 | CheckDavid | not sure to be honest |
| 11:11.32 | CheckDavid | did that give you the info? |
| 11:11.34 | reisio | CheckDavid: you have a desktop, with a wallpaper? |
| 11:11.39 | CheckDavid | no, laptop |
| 11:11.45 | rtc65 | how can I find and install all dependencies that a .deb file needs before it can be installed? |
| 11:11.46 | reisio | laptops are desktops :) |
| 11:11.48 | reisio | don't ask |
| 11:11.52 | galex-713 | raidghost, at least the « stable » (labeled by GnuTLS) one, the 3.1 |
| 11:11.54 | CheckDavid | Are they? |
| 11:11.56 | reisio | CheckDavid: you have things you can click on and a panel? |
| 11:12.06 | CheckDavid | my desktop has nothing that is clickable |
| 11:12.07 | reisio | CheckDavid: a task bar etc.? |
| 11:12.07 | galex-713 | In stable there is the 2.12 |
| 11:12.12 | CheckDavid | I only have Applications and Places on top |
| 11:12.16 | reisio | CheckDavid: okay |
| 11:12.23 | reisio | CheckDavid: all that you see is your desktop environment |
| 11:12.27 | reisio | CheckDavid: and it is called GNOME |
| 11:12.35 | CheckDavid | I see. |
| 11:12.43 | reisio | CheckDavid: GNOME has a session manager |
| 11:12.51 | CheckDavid | Well, I like your suggestion of hybernation |
| 11:12.57 | CheckDavid | *hibernation |
| 11:12.58 | reisio | you can tell it to save your session if you want to log out/power off/etc. |
| 11:13.03 | reisio | and yes, hibernate too |
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| 11:13.24 | CheckDavid | I close the laptop and I was thinking it would hibernate automatically |
| 11:13.32 | CheckDavid | but the laptop is too hot, so I believe it didn't hibernate |
| 11:13.39 | reisio | that's probably not why |
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| 11:14.04 | CheckDavid | no? |
| 11:14.19 | reisio | probably not |
| 11:14.23 | reisio | CheckDavid: what version of Debian? |
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| 11:15.00 | CheckDavid | not sure either, and now my mouse has gone bonkers |
| 11:15.03 | CheckDavid | I think 7.1 |
| 11:15.08 | reisio | k |
| 11:15.14 | CheckDavid | when I leave my laptop on for too long, the mouse becomes unresponsive |
| 11:15.21 | CheckDavid | or just impossible to control |
| 11:15.31 | reisio | you probably want gnome-power-manager, if you don't have it |
| 11:15.34 | reisio | and laptop-mode-tools |
| 11:15.46 | CheckDavid | Maybe hibernate will work no? |
| 11:15.48 | reisio | or you could try something like this guy has: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Debian_7.0_%28Wheezy%29_on_a_ThinkPad_T42#Sleep_and_Hibernate |
| 11:16.08 | reisio | I wouldn't be surprised if the mouse going bonkers has to do with the heat |
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| 11:16.11 | reisio | if by mouse you mean touchpad |
| 11:16.15 | CheckDavid | yes yes |
| 11:16.17 | reisio | but I doubt it has anything to do with hibernation |
| 11:16.18 | CheckDavid | touchpad |
| 11:16.23 | CheckDavid | And I suspect it is the heat |
| 11:16.30 | CheckDavid | Wouldn't heat prevent heating? |
| 11:16.33 | CheckDavid | *hivernation |
| 11:16.38 | reisio | nope |
| 11:16.43 | reisio | entirely separate things |
| 11:16.46 | CheckDavid | Rally? |
| 11:16.49 | reisio | yup |
| 11:16.50 | CheckDavid | *Really? But... |
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| 11:16.57 | CheckDavid | If it's hibernating how does it heat? |
| 11:17.00 | reisio | the whole inside of your computer is quite warm the whole time you use it |
| 11:17.01 | pengunix | Why is the debconf.systemrc written to /tmp? |
| 11:17.07 | pengunix | (the lxc-create debian script) |
| 11:17.08 | reisio | it has to get quite hot just to affect the touchpad |
| 11:17.20 | reisio | which is far more susceptible |
| 11:17.38 | CheckDavid | But how does it heat while hibernating? |
| 11:17.38 | reisio | pengunix: why not |
| 11:17.43 | reisio | CheckDavid: hrmm? |
| 11:17.48 | CheckDavid | I thought hibernation would prevent my machien from heating overnight |
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| 11:17.55 | CheckDavid | You said hibernation has nothing to do with the heating |
| 11:18.09 | reisio | CheckDavid: I was saying the heat confusing your touchpad |
| 11:18.16 | reisio | likely has nothing to do with hibernation not working |
| 11:18.18 | pengunix | reisio: I mean, what is the purpose? For documentary purposes? Internal use? |
| 11:18.28 | CheckDavid | but if it hibernated, it wouldn't be as hot |
| 11:18.37 | CheckDavid | no? |
| 11:18.48 | reisio | pengunix: probably because you don't need it after it's used, which makes /tmp/ a great place for it |
| 11:18.58 | reisio | CheckDavid: indeed, it would not, after a time |
| 11:19.06 | CheckDavid | then I guess that's the problem |
| 11:19.12 | reisio | you guess what's the problem? |
| 11:19.13 | CheckDavid | well, let me shut down |
| 11:19.14 | pengunix | reisio: so some kind of primitive inter-script communication? |
| 11:19.19 | reisio | CheckDavid: hrmm? |
| 11:19.20 | CheckDavid | to get my touchpad back |
| 11:19.25 | CheckDavid | lol |
| 11:19.26 | reisio | CheckDavid: to get your touchpad back? |
| 11:19.32 | CheckDavid | Yes. It's not working |
| 11:19.41 | CheckDavid | If I reboot I will get it back. |
| 11:19.46 | CheckDavid | Generally that's what happens. |
| 11:19.57 | reisio | CheckDavid: a reboot wouldn't make it suddenly cooler, really |
| 11:20.02 | reisio | try using xinput to toggle it |
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| 11:20.09 | rtc65 | reisio, sorry :) |
| 11:20.09 | reisio | or the hardware Fn+ key combo if you have one |
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| 11:20.30 | reisio | rtc65: ? |
| 11:20.33 | reisio | oh right :) |
| 11:20.37 | CheckDavid | no idea reisio, it works all the time, and touchpad going bonkers happens when the PC is on for more than just a few hours |
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| 11:20.51 | reisio | mmhmmm |
| 11:20.57 | reisio | you know what else happens in a few hours? |
| 11:21.06 | CheckDavid | cpu meltdown? |
| 11:21.07 | CheckDavid | lol |
| 11:21.07 | reisio | a touchpad gets covered with grease and dead skin and hairs |
| 11:21.23 | CheckDavid | not if no one is using it |
| 11:21.30 | reisio | probably not then, no |
| 11:21.37 | reisio | but if no one is using it, why do you care if it doesn't work :p |
| 11:21.42 | CheckDavid | That sounds like a mammal has been using the touchpad |
| 11:21.43 | petn-randall | You have a cat? |
| 11:21.45 | CheckDavid | whcih is not the case now lol |
| 11:21.47 | CheckDavid | I just woke up |
| 11:21.58 | well_laid_lawn | coffee ftw |
| 11:22.01 | CheckDavid | I don't have any non human mammals at home |
| 11:22.05 | reisio | FTW! |
| 11:22.18 | reisio | no mice? |
| 11:22.21 | CheckDavid | no |
| 11:22.25 | reisio | ratses? |
| 11:22.30 | reisio | porpoises? |
| 11:22.32 | CheckDavid | I used to have hamsters, llong time ago |
| 11:22.38 | reisio | gerbils :) |
| 11:22.47 | CheckDavid | they were roborovski |
| 11:22.51 | CheckDavid | sibierian hamsters |
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| 11:24.01 | reisio | siberian she is cold |
| 11:27.10 | well_laid_lawn | very furry hamsters |
| 11:27.25 | reisio | twss! |
| 11:28.35 | Lady_Aleena | well_laid_lawn, sorry, I distracted by a shiny thing. I still don't know as much as I need to. |
| 11:28.42 | Lady_Aleena | sees another shiny thing. |
| 11:29.09 | well_laid_lawn | heh |
| 11:30.46 | Lady_Aleena | Oh one thing, how do I force IceWeasel to install a plug-in? |
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| 11:33.04 | Lady_Aleena | Classic Compact (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classic-compact/?src=collection&collection_id=6e386114-443f-3b92-7ced-c4bfbea84e6b) is compatible with Firefox 25, so I want it for IceWeasel. |
| 11:33.22 | Lady_Aleena | IceWeasel won't let me install it. |
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| 11:41.18 | feudin | guys im really fded up with arch breaking on me, and am looking for a distro which is still relatively leading edge but more stable, i have tried debian but would like newer packages, how stable is debian testing compared to arch and are there any drawbacks with using it? |
| 11:41.32 | feudin | fed |
| 11:42.17 | forcer | feudin: I have no clue about arch, but I use testing on my home machine and it works very well. |
| 11:42.21 | eriberto | feudin, you can use backports to stable or testing. |
| 11:42.35 | feudin | what are backports bro? |
| 11:42.59 | forcer | Ew, "bro" |
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| 11:43.35 | eriberto | backports is a resource that allow you to install new packages in stable, since the packages are in backports |
| 11:43.51 | peterrooney | feudin: debian stable goes to extreme lengths to not bump major versions of software. backports are newer versions of software, compiled against the stable branch. |
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| 11:43.58 | eriberto | when we package a new code, we can put it in backports too |
| 11:46.11 | Lady_Aleena | I think I am going to go pass out now. |
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| 11:46.45 | peterrooney | feudin: drawback: not much in the way of shiny new shit. |
| 11:46.47 | peterrooney | !sns |
| 11:46.48 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 11:47.38 | peterrooney | !stable |
| 11:47.38 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, new versions introduced and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Wheezy (7.2); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me about <security backports>). http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
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| 11:48.09 | peterrooney | feudin: /msg dpkg backports |
| 11:48.55 | feudin | thanks man so will this update xfce etc also? |
| 11:49.12 | peterrooney | feudin: I don't understand the question. |
| 11:49.21 | eriberto | feudin: if the package is available. |
| 11:49.38 | feudin | forcer: "Ew, "bro"", you a girl or something kid? |
| 11:50.48 | eriberto | feudin: go to http://backports.debian.org |
| 11:50.49 | peterrooney | ,v xfce4 |
| 11:50.50 | judd | Package: xfce4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.6.2; wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; sid: 4.10.1 |
| 11:51.03 | feudin | eriberto: thanks m8 |
| 11:51.05 | forcer | feudin: Thanks for conforming to every stereotype out there, er, "bro" ;-) |
| 11:51.53 | eriberto | feudin: you can consult http://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html to know if the package has a backport |
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| 11:52.47 | eriberto | feudin: example: http://packages.qa.debian.org/m/mac-robber.html |
| 11:53.06 | eriberto | feudin: note the "bpo" presence in stable |
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| 11:54.31 | feudin | forcer: please, i dont want to converse with you i want to sort out my system, you concern yourself with the finer details of what your mind perceives as true, whilst the rest of us continue to be productive |
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| 12:08.46 | evangeline_ | hi, I've enabled my crontab by putting a script inside /etc/cron.daily, but I'm wondering why the contab I edited with "crontab -e" is not working ? |
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| 12:16.08 | abrotman | we can't see it, how could we know? |
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| 12:20.18 | reisio | evangeline_: what makes you think it'd work? |
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| 12:22.08 | evangeline_ | reisio, what? |
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| 12:22.28 | reisio | not sure I can put it more simply |
| 12:22.44 | evangeline_ | reisio, as sorry, though I was on a different channel |
| 12:23.00 | evangeline_ | well I can do "crontab -e" on most distributions and it simply works |
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| 12:23.43 | evangeline_ | which file am I actually editing when doing "crontab -e" ... it's not /etc/crontab |
| 12:24.20 | petn-randall | evangeline_: It's your personal crontab. |
| 12:25.11 | evangeline_ | petn-randall, ah /var/spool/cron/crontabs/root |
| 12:25.29 | reisio | doesn't really matter :) |
| 12:25.32 | evangeline_ | petn-randall, so to make it work I have to install frontab or something right ? |
| 12:26.04 | evangeline_ | petn-randall, but which deamon runs /etc/crontab ... the /usr/sbin/cron ? |
| 12:26.10 | reisio | evangeline_: it's unlikely you'd have the 'crontab' command if you didn't have a cron daemon |
| 12:26.17 | petn-randall | evangeline_: User crontabs just work, I'm guessing it's malformed. Check /var/log/daemon.log for error messages. |
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| 12:28.41 | petn-randall | evangeline_: Can you copy/paste the contents of what you put in with 'crontab -e' to http://paste.debian.net? |
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| 12:28.56 | evangeline_ | reisio, petn-randall it doesn't just work, some daemon must run it; I'm asking whether that daemon is /usr/sbin/cron ? |
| 12:29.19 | evangeline_ | ah yes, it's vixie cron |
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| 12:29.58 | petn-randall | evangeline_: 'just work' in the sense of "You don't have to touch anything else for it to run this crontab". |
| 12:30.19 | reisio | the first thing to check is that you added it to the crontab correctly |
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| 12:30.25 | reisio | that's the problem about 120% of the time |
| 12:30.29 | petn-randall | evangeline_: i.e. you don't have to restart cron to pick up the new crontab. |
| 12:30.34 | reisio | and then after that you might see if someone ran off with your executables |
| 12:30.35 | petn-randall | evangeline_: what reisio said. |
| 12:31.14 | evangeline_ | yeah I know all that ... I was merely interested on which cron daemon is being used |
| 12:31.18 | evangeline_ | it's vixie cron |
| 12:31.28 | evangeline_ | on my gentoo box I'm using fcrontab and it works really well |
| 12:31.29 | petn-randall | 50% of the time it's a malformed crontab, the other 50% is a missing executable bit on the script to be run. |
| 12:31.30 | reisio | :) |
| 12:31.36 | evangeline_ | and I know how to edit crontab :) |
| 12:31.51 | reisio | fcron? fancy |
| 12:31.54 | petn-randall | evangeline_: Then show the crontab. |
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| 12:33.54 | abrotman | notes gentoo is not Debian ... |
| 12:34.22 | evangeline_ | here: http://dpaste.com/1495979/ |
| 12:34.49 | abrotman | need full path to binaries |
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| 12:36.33 | reisio | evangeline_: does that work if you run it manually? |
| 12:36.39 | evangeline_ | yeah |
| 12:36.46 | reisio | without user interaction? |
| 12:36.52 | evangeline_ | yeah |
| 12:36.59 | evangeline_ | I have passwordless ssh login |
| 12:37.05 | reisio | what abrotman said then |
| 12:37.31 | evangeline_ | yup, I'll use full paths and see what happens, thank you all |
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| 12:38.04 | abrotman | was there any doubt? |
| 12:38.07 | reisio | evangeline_: also :) |
| 12:38.20 | reisio | evangeline_: you realize that with ; it will rm all that stuff whether scp ran properly or not :) |
| 12:38.38 | evangeline_ | reisio, yes, I should probably use && |
| 12:38.42 | reisio | :D |
| 12:38.54 | reisio | you making incremental/cumulative backups? |
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| 12:39.18 | reisio | (vs 1:1) |
| 12:40.06 | abrotman | doesn't look incremental |
| 12:40.26 | reisio | abrotman: didn't really look at it, but you don't actually always need full paths |
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| 12:40.44 | reisio | so not really doubt as much as knowing trivia |
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| 12:40.49 | evangeline_ | no, I'm doing full backups and I'm deleting the old backups, because the myhost doesn't have enough space to hold more than 1 months backups; therefore everything is kept on current machine |
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| 12:41.07 | petn-randall | The log file would tell ... |
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| 12:42.01 | reisio | evangeline_: but do you mean to keep all the changes from each month, or just a snapshot of what was there at the time alone? |
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| 12:43.57 | evangeline_ | reisio, curerntly I was thinking of keeping the full backups of every day for the past 6 months and then deleting the older ones automatically |
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| 12:44.23 | evangeline_ | reisio, I'm not yet sure what will works best, but that is what I came up with at the moment ... I'll have to test and experiment |
| 12:45.05 | abrotman | guesses it doesn't work |
| 12:46.06 | reisio | mmm, well |
| 12:46.21 | reisio | check out rdiff-backup(-fs) if you get deep into incremental |
| 12:46.27 | reisio | it's pretty fancy |
| 12:47.40 | reisio | and in general rsync (what rdiff-backup uses) will make life easier for large copies |
| 12:47.55 | reisio | it can resume and do other wonderful things |
| 12:47.57 | evangeline_ | well, currently tha backup directory holds the mysqldumps of databases, which are basically txt files and incremental backuping could help a lot |
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| 12:48.11 | reisio | mmmhmmm |
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| 12:48.39 | abrotman | hopes they're bziped or osmething |
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| 12:50.56 | lucasrj | Good day, please could someone help me I'm trying to add this route and is not working. route add-net 192.168.0.80 accept says SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument ... anyone have any idea what is the correct one please? |
| 12:52.00 | abrotman | lucasrj: supposed to be a space |
| 12:52.28 | reisio | dunno what might do compressed incremental backup, but if you couldn't manage it, you'd still save more space over time by not compressing, than by having duplicate whole backups |
| 12:52.43 | abrotman | I meant bziping the mysql dumps |
| 12:52.54 | abrotman | he's not doing incrementals |
| 12:52.55 | reisio | that's what I thought you meant |
| 12:52.58 | lucasrj | route add -net 192.168.0.80 accept |
| 12:53.11 | lucasrj | SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument |
| 12:53.18 | lucasrj | :( |
| 12:53.33 | abrotman | lucasrj: what is "accept" ? |
| 12:53.35 | reisio | abrotman: we were talking hypothetically :) |
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| 12:54.12 | abrotman | hypothetically, his script won't work anyway |
| 12:54.47 | reisio | non-hypothetically, that's why he came here :p |
| 12:55.01 | reisio | full circle |
| 12:56.33 | petn-randall | lucasrj: What are you trying to do? |
| 12:57.13 | lucasrj | I'm blocking facebook using the router command regect and accepts an internal ip have to use the accept |
| 12:57.42 | abrotman | what? |
| 12:58.10 | abrotman | lucasrj: man route .. "reject" is in there, "accept" is not .. again, what are you trying to do ? |
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| 13:01.13 | DebianOpenGLMiss | So my wine said Libgl1.so is missing and I've tried installing Nvidia driver and followed the Debian Way only to discover a lot of Dlls can't be run in 64 bits and had to be run in I386 and I still have missing Libgl1.so problem with wine. Is there any REAL way of install nvidia? |
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| 13:03.48 | DebianOpenGLMiss | So no solution? I guess it doesn't matter considering I'm moving to Ubuntu. |
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| 13:06.23 | abrotman | that was easy |
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| 13:15.05 | linuxthefish | hi, where is paste.debian.net ? |
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| 13:17.26 | ompaul | linuxthefish: host machine.name and whois ip.address |
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| 13:22.19 | linuxthefish | host machine.name |
| 13:22.24 | linuxthefish | whois ip.address |
| 13:22.44 | bl4ckdu5t | I tried to install msttcorefonts with aptitude and it uninstalled some of my installed software like libreoffice, gedit, gtk-gnash,... What caused this? |
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| 13:22.57 | abrotman | wtf .. |
| 13:23.04 | bl4ckdu5t | I'm just re-downloading those things |
| 13:23.08 | abrotman | bl4ckdu5t: you're mixing versions of debian probably |
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| 13:23.36 | bl4ckdu5t | Mixing versions how? |
| 13:23.53 | bl4ckdu5t | I'm on deb7.2 |
| 13:24.36 | abrotman | pastebin your sources.list |
| 13:25.32 | ompaul | linuxthefish: do it in the privacy of your own terminal |
| 13:25.35 | bl4ckdu5t | ok |
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| 13:27.19 | babilen | bl4ckdu5t: fwiw, I would recommend to use fonts-liberation as those font are higher quality alternatives to the MS Core Fonts |
| 13:28.05 | bl4ckdu5t | abrotman, : http://pastie.org/8535487 |
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| 13:28.55 | Elirips | [Maybe little bit OT] Hello. Can someone recommend me a very simple script/app that is in debian wheezy, integrates into apache and is as simple as: present an upload button which allows you to browse for a file and upload it to that server via http? |
| 13:28.57 | petn-randall | bl4ckdu5t: You've got linux mint in there, it's probably breaking your install. |
| 13:29.02 | bl4ckdu5t | babilen, : I think I'll do just that. This ms fonts have caused me a lotta mess. What I really needed was trebuchet |
| 13:29.09 | ompaul | ... deb http://packages.linuxmint.com debian import |
| 13:29.13 | abrotman | and it's no longer Debian |
| 13:29.17 | ompaul | that's not debian |
| 13:29.22 | babilen | bl4ckdu5t: Unfortunately we do not support your configuration. You might want to ask in mint channel or ##linux |
| 13:29.32 | ompaul | !frankendebian |
| 13:29.32 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 13:29.35 | bl4ckdu5t | I put the linux mint to download just firefox and replace iceweasel |
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| 13:29.53 | bl4ckdu5t | I'm not using mint |
| 13:29.56 | ompaul | and what else did it break / change while it was there ... who knows you decide |
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| 13:30.19 | ompaul | neither are you using debian for that matter |
| 13:30.25 | babilen | bl4ckdu5t: Well, we neither support nor recommend doing that. Keep in mind that iceweasel *is* firefox (modulo the name) and that there is absolutely no point in replacing one with the other. All you achieved was to lose support. |
| 13:30.33 | abrotman | bl4ckdu5t: that was dumb, use mozilla.debian.net |
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| 13:32.08 | bl4ckdu5t | babilen,,: I do some web dev and I know the difference. It's the same for regular users but not for designers |
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| 13:32.40 | petn-randall | bl4ckdu5t: msttcorefonts installs fine here. So I guess you accidently upgraded other packages, too, which broke your installation. |
| 13:33.05 | abrotman | bl4ckdu5t: there is no difference, you're mistaken |
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| 13:33.45 | abrotman | but clearly you know what you're doing, you've managed to screw up your system :) |
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| 13:35.04 | babilen | Well, we *do* ship some patches on top of FF (at least for 24ESR) -- cf. http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-mozilla/iceweasel.git;a=tree;f=debian/patches |
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| 13:35.41 | abrotman | but not for core fucnctionality |
| 13:36.28 | babilen | I haven't reviewed all of those patches, but a cursory look does underline that Iceweasel *is* firefox with maybe some fixes for bugs that will even be merged upstream soon. |
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| 13:37.02 | eblip | is there any way to resize the terminal gnome box on debian without having to mouse over the edges with pinpoint precision |
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| 13:38.40 | abrotman | eblip: resize the rows/cols? or the font? |
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| 13:39.10 | eblip | the width of the terminal screen |
| 13:39.17 | somiaj | eblip: can't think of a way to resize that way in gnome, but you can always use the --geometry option to start it at the size you want. |
| 13:39.18 | eblip | and the height |
| 13:39.28 | eblip | ah great stuff |
| 13:39.33 | eblip | ill look into it |
| 13:40.07 | abrotman | there are some preset sizes under the Temrinal menu |
| 13:40.25 | eblip | even better |
| 13:40.36 | abrotman | those are probably your last few sizes |
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| 13:44.01 | eblip | right got it you can set up a profile |
| 13:44.17 | eblip | and set all settings and then tick to launch that new profile wehn terminal is called |
| 13:44.20 | eblip | excellent stuff |
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| 13:45.25 | somiaj | seems some gnome users are saying there is a 'wmctrl' command to control windows from the cli |
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| 13:45.57 | bl4ckdu5t | abrotman,: I wish there was a way to undo things like this |
| 13:46.07 | abrotman | judd: info wmctrl |
| 13:46.08 | judd | Package wmctrl (x11, optional) in wheezy/i386: control an EWMH/NetWM compatible X Window Manager. Version: 1.07-7; Size: 22.1k; Installed: 79k; Homepage: http://tomas.styblo.name/wmctrl/ |
| 13:46.16 | abrotman | bl4ckdu5t: reinstall Debian, problem solved |
| 13:47.19 | bl4ckdu5t | :P that's worse! I've installed too many things. But is there way to undo a 'rm' delete? |
| 13:47.51 | abrotman | you mean you rm'ed a file? and it's gone and you want it back? |
| 13:48.09 | bl4ckdu5t | yea |
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| 13:48.19 | bl4ckdu5t | It's gone and I want it back |
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| 13:48.20 | ompaul | find your backups and use them ... |
| 13:48.42 | abrotman | !libtrash |
| 13:48.45 | abrotman | hrm ... |
| 13:48.50 | abrotman | what was that .. |
| 13:49.07 | bl4ckdu5t | like the way windows users use some file recovery software to get their files back |
| 13:49.08 | abrotman | ah well, no, use your backup |
| 13:49.24 | abrotman | bl4ckdu5t: sure, you can use like testdisk or photorec maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it |
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| 13:50.45 | abrotman | ah, libtrash it is, but hasn't been updated in five years |
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| 13:52.52 | Sagar | Hello, how can i assign vhosts on my VPS? |
| 13:53.02 | Sagar | like when i connect to IRC using bitchx or something |
| 13:53.14 | Sagar | i shows my IP. how can i assign some vhosts on it? |
| 13:53.24 | drybjed | Sagar: you need revDNS set up |
| 13:53.32 | abrotman | a) don't use bitchx b) ask #freenode for a cloak is probably easier |
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| 13:54.47 | Sagar | drybjed : Can you put me to a guide? |
| 13:55.05 | abrotman | Sagar: it's DNS, it's not difficult |
| 13:55.31 | Sagar | O.O i use my VPS for running many websites and i am new to this too |
| 13:55.59 | drybjed | Sagar: http://forums.hexus.net/networking-broadband/125094-reverse-dns-irc.html |
| 13:56.18 | abrotman | Sagar: google " setup dns ptr" |
| 13:56.41 | abrotman | or ask your provider |
| 13:57.09 | Sagar | i use pdns |
| 13:57.16 | abrotman | okay |
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| 13:57.33 | Sagar | how can i do that with it? |
| 13:57.50 | drybjed | Sagar: do you have your own dns server? |
| 13:57.54 | Sagar | Yes |
| 13:58.09 | abrotman | Sagar: i'm sure pdns has documentation, I'm not going to read it for you |
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| 14:03.35 | boudiccas | i've just got a new usb external drive, which, when plugged in and mounted comes up as 'fuseblk'. can i leave it at that or is it wise to format it ext4 please? |
| 14:03.44 | Sagar | drybjed : any help? |
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| 14:04.05 | drybjed | Sagar: I don't know pdns, sorry |
| 14:04.06 | abrotman | Sagar: read the documentation, this isn't difficult |
| 14:05.20 | Sagar | abrotman : I am new to it sorry just guide me please? |
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| 14:06.22 | abrotman | Sagar: I'm not going to read it for you, perhaps you'd like to ask #pdns to help you do this |
| 14:06.40 | abrotman | erm, #dns |
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| 14:08.09 | boudiccas | right, i'll reformat it as i wont always have fuse installed |
| 14:08.15 | bl4ckdu5t | I'm downloading each of these: http://pastebin.com/0NBgw2Ac |
| 14:08.41 | abrotman | bl4ckdu5t: this is why using Mint is bad |
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| 14:09.11 | bl4ckdu5t | I already took it out of my sources.list. People are bound to make mistakes |
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| 14:09.34 | abrotman | it's too late |
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| 14:10.52 | bl4ckdu5t | :-< |
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| 14:15.15 | ompaul | bl4ckdu5t: so back up your data, back up your logs so you can check out your use of apt and then you have a history of your activity and you can get a working similar box |
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| 14:17.00 | olivier_bK | do you know how to untar the file .arc ? |
| 14:17.30 | bl4ckdu5t | ok thanks for giving me something to eat on while I mourn my past mistake |
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| 14:18.28 | oliva | hi there ... any reason why the X server refuses to start as regular user? |
| 14:18.48 | oliva | I'm using startx |
| 14:18.58 | ompaul | bl4ckdu5t: when cars crash we don't try to fix them, we bring them to garages in the hope they are repaired to state of good use, if you like reinitialised, it's a bit different to needing to add some fuel |
| 14:19.03 | ompaul | or change a bulb :) |
| 14:19.11 | abrotman | olivier_bK: file foo.arc .. what does it say it is? |
| 14:19.28 | abrotman | oliva: look in the log? |
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| 14:20.41 | olivier_bK | abrotman, mario-affiche.arc: BIOS (ia32) ROM Ext. (56*512) |
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| 14:22.33 | oliva | abrotman: nothing intresting in the log |
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| 14:22.55 | oliva | abrotman: GLX failed but this also happens for root |
| 14:23.57 | boudiccas | if i am moving files like this 'mv /media/foobar/foobar /media/foo' how can i stop it showing each and every single little file please? how can i have the output in just one line? |
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| 14:24.55 | bl4ckdu5t | ompaul,: That's very true! My friend's dad kept one like that in his garage for years |
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| 14:30.08 | abrotman | oliva: might be beytter to show us the log |
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| 14:31.11 | r00t-err0r | i dont see any errors in dmes but when i starting Debian i got some modprobe error and i need to CTRL + C to continiue booting, do I need to pastebin dmess to see what is problem? |
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| 14:32.24 | zykotick9 | !tell r00t-err0r about bootlog |
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| 14:33.19 | r00t-err0r | now to restart and pastebin? |
| 14:33.24 | r00t-err0r | :) |
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| 14:34.19 | antithesis | Hello |
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| 14:35.35 | antithesis | Does anyone know the number of packages in stable and jessie? |
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| 14:36.01 | antithesis | If I do /msg dpkg dstats [stable / testing], I get an internal error |
| 14:36.07 | antithesis | Well, dpkg gets one, not me :) |
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| 14:41.09 | boodie | Hi there: I am in UK and about to upgrade my internet connection to BT Infinity. I run Debian stable. BT assumes their users have either Win or Mac. Has anybody tried the service and / or had any problems? |
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| 14:43.05 | babilen | boodie: You are typically given a router that does everything for you and to which you connect via Ethernet or Wifi. It shouldn't matter which operating system you use, but then I have no idea about BT Infinity. |
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| 14:44.48 | petemc | thats true for bt infinity as well |
| 14:45.02 | babilen | boodie: But I would be surprised if they offer a specific networking standard that Linux doesn't support yet. Given that BT Infinity is standard FTTC you probably don't even need specific hardware for it. |
| 14:45.23 | boodie | Yes, indeed, this has been the case so far. BT claims that they can't install their disk for you if you have Linux (obviously). |
| 14:45.39 | boudiccas | boodie; i use talktalk and they provide the router which works perfectly using debian, its as babilen says. btw, after a while you may care to get our own router which is able to give you more information than the isp-supplied one |
| 14:45.49 | babilen | But then my experience with every internet provider in the UK is that they simply give you one of their shitty pre-configured routers that you can't tinker with. |
| 14:46.06 | boodie | Do I have to change anything in /etc? |
| 14:46.14 | boudiccas | boodie; nope |
| 14:46.42 | boudiccas | boodie; just plug your network cable into it, and it should sort it out as 'eth0' |
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| 14:47.41 | babilen | boodie: I would be very surprised. As said earlier: You probably get a new off-the-mill consumer router that connects to their VDSL2 and offers Wi-Fi and Ethernet (with DHCP) to the internal network. You simply plug your telephone line into it and that should be it. No specific network configuration should be necessary on your botc. |
| 14:47.46 | babilen | s/botc/box |
| 14:47.47 | boodie | So I would access it via firefox to (e.g. http://192.168.0.1) in order to change the DNS server eventually and so on ... |
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| 14:48.42 | babilen | boodie: I wouldn't count on being able to change your DNS server and you might have to do that in the client (i.e. your computer) -- Do you use /etc/network/interfaces to configure your interfaces or do you manage them with a tool such as network-manager? |
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| 14:50.10 | babilen | boodie: The routers I've seen from most ISP in this country are rather dumb and low-quality ... In particular the O2 ones seem to have massive problems of handling multiple connections and most of the boxes don't offer much in terms of configuration. They *do* offer parental controls and somesuch, but not much in "deep"/"advanced" networking setting such as configuring your DNS. |
| 14:50.12 | boodie | I think through /etc/network/interfaces, let me check ... |
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| 14:50.36 | babilen | hides in the corner for calling configuring one's DNS server "advanced" |
| 14:53.43 | oliva | abrotman: it was a problem with .xsession |
| 14:53.49 | oliva | thanks for your help |
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| 14:56.08 | boodie | Hey paste.debian.net is not working ... is there a different portal? |
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| 14:56.54 | babilen | boodie: Seems to be down, yeah |
| 14:57.07 | wols | boodie: pastie.org |
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| 14:57.50 | babilen | boodie: I am quite partial to http://refheap.com but http://paste.ubuntu.com is certainly an alternative. Just don't use pastebin.com and you should be fine. |
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| 14:59.00 | reavengrey | codepad.org |
| 14:59.04 | reavengrey | holla |
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| 14:59.37 | boodie | http://pastie.org/8535611 |
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| 15:00.20 | boodie | this was my /etc/network/interfaces ... not much in there |
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| 15:00.59 | abrotman | so oyu use network-manager or wicd or something like that ? |
| 15:01.44 | boudiccas | i am using this command 'mv /media/boudiccas/foobar/foo /media/boudiccas/foo' can i stop it and if so will it still leave the source files intact? i want to use '-g' which should cut the verbose output and give me a progress bar |
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| 15:04.42 | boodie | Honestly, the last time I set it up was a while ago; when I moved here BT provided their router, but I preferred my old one ( the address e.g. http://192.168.0.1 differed slightly) but my router uses a password, so I must have it somewhere |
| 15:05.58 | war9407 | dpkg, smokeping x86 testing? |
| 15:05.59 | dpkg | war9407: I give up, what is it? |
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| 15:06.10 | bl4ckdu5t | Why can't I find my wireless networks on wicd? I also tried to use wireshark and no interfaces loaded up |
| 15:06.11 | Newb27SGF | hi all |
| 15:06.16 | war9407 | dpkg, available smokeping testing? |
| 15:06.17 | dpkg | war9407: no idea |
| 15:06.18 | Newb27SGF | Newb declaration |
| 15:06.30 | bl4ckdu5t | but my wireless network works fine with the default network manager |
| 15:06.31 | Newb27SGF | Can debian read/write NTFS partition? |
| 15:07.05 | VPechorin | yes, install ntfs-3g |
| 15:07.24 | babilen | bl4ckdu5t: wicd is a bit tricky and hasn't been particularly well maintained in the last couple of years. I wouldn't necessarily recommend to use it. that being said: you probably simply forgot to configure which interface it should use and it might be that your wireless adaptor is not configured correctly. |
| 15:07.37 | babilen | bl4ckdu5t: All that being said: Did you reinstall your system by now? |
| 15:07.56 | boodie | Sorry, I am being unclear. The standard BT ADSL router didn't need a password to be accessed. I preferred my old one (a NETGEAR) because it had a password. I don't seem to remeber configuring it particularly |
| 15:08.01 | abrotman | bl4ckdu5t: you have to tell wicd what your wifi interfaces are |
| 15:08.18 | bl4ckdu5t | babilen,: no I didn't. I'm reinstalling all I've lost |
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| 15:08.32 | dutchfish | Newb27SGF, also delve into ntfs-config (a separate package) |
| 15:08.44 | bl4ckdu5t | ok! but why aren't these interfaces coming up on wireshark? |
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| 15:12.18 | boodie | Anyway, I moved in the UK recently (1 year ago), and I am looking for an active LUG (I'm in the west midlands): any ideas? |
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| 15:15.01 | boudiccas | boodie; ask in your local computer shop, they might know |
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| 15:16.02 | babilen | boodie: Also: This is rather off-topic in here and you might want to take it to #debian-offtopic :) |
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| 15:18.30 | boudiccas | boodie; or send an email to the debian-users mailing list and explain what area you've moved to and requesting details of all lugs in the area, and then just pick and choose. |
| 15:19.00 | Newb27SGF | VPechorin: thank you very much |
| 15:19.13 | Newb27SGF | dutchfish: thank you will do |
| 15:19.19 | boodie | Right. Back to the broadband problem. If I had this BT Infinity service installed, A) it should not be a problem with my debian to start with, B) I could eventually purchase a different router, correct? |
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| 15:19.57 | makssix | what is a fast way to cut out the vorbis audio stream out of a webm file? |
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| 15:21.14 | babilen | boodie: That really depends on BT -- they might or might not support/allow you to use anything but their router or not make the necessary credentials available to you. Talk to them. It is *nothing* to do with you using Linux. don't tell them and simply say "I want to use a different router" -- this also is a topic not really on-topic here as it is, as explained, not specific to Debian at all. |
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| 15:21.46 | babilen | boodie: I would hope that they do allow it and make the necessary information available to you, but that is by no means a given. |
| 15:22.31 | wes_incredible | I run XFCE and am happy with it. Is it safe to remove gnome, or will that break lots of things (such as network manger's applet)? |
| 15:22.35 | hurdos | Is it possible to use ubuntu repo in debian like 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/knapsu/openxcom/ubuntu oneiric main' ? |
| 15:22.45 | abrotman | no |
| 15:22.53 | babilen | boodie: Google for '"bt infinity" "own router"' and read those threads and lets continue this in #debian-offtopic |
| 15:22.59 | abrotman | those packages are not made for Debian, they'd likely break your system |
| 15:23.25 | wes_incredible | abrotman: Is that in reply to me? |
| 15:23.37 | abrotman | no |
| 15:23.51 | babilen | wes_incredible: You can remove whatever you want to remove but make sure to keep whatever you plan on using. In fact I would recommend to *purge* packages you want to remove and to install packages you want to keep explicitly (or mark them as manually installed) |
| 15:24.07 | babilen | hurdos: No, it is not supported and not recommended |
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| 15:24.41 | babilen | hurdos: To be clear: It is possible, but it will break your system and we will not support it. At all. |
| 15:24.56 | babilen | dpkg: tell hurdos -about ppa |
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| 15:25.15 | wes_incredible | babilen: It is a little hard to know which ones I'm using is the difficulty. The only one I can think of is the network-manager, I fear there my be others. |
| 15:26.23 | babilen | wes_incredible: Well, lets do it like this: Run "apt-get install network-manager-gnome" and then remove Gnome. How did you install it? You should be able to easily reinstall anything that you are missing later given that you have the packages in your local cache and a working network connection. |
| 15:26.26 | sevenfourk | Hi Guys! I have installed on my laptop these packages are requirements to libgl1-mesa-dri: libdrm-intel1, libdrm-nouveau2, libdrm-radeon1. When trying to remove either nouveau or radeon I obviously get a message that this required packages. Thing is I really do not need them. What options to get rid of them like normally using apt/aptitude package management system? Thanks. |
| 15:26.44 | hurdos | Is it better to build a deb pkg from source? |
| 15:27.03 | wes_incredible | babilen: I'll try that. I got it installed because of it being Debian's default, not explicitly. |
| 15:27.28 | petern_ | hurdos, no, Debian is not Gentoo. |
| 15:27.42 | hurdos | :) |
| 15:27.49 | Shadur | Thankfully. |
| 15:28.13 | hurdos | So, what should I do? |
| 15:28.25 | boudiccas | i am using this command 'mv /media/boudiccas/foobar/foo /media/boudiccas/foo' can i stop it and if so will it still leave the source files intact? i want to use '-g' which should cut the verbose output and give me a progress bar |
| 15:28.29 | arthurfiggis | 's old computer lab at college is still running Gentoo, and still considered "in beta" after 12 years :P but it still works! |
| 15:28.40 | babilen | hurdos: They provide their own Debian packages at http://openxcom.org/index.php/downloads/ but we don't support those either. I would personally compile it myself and install it to /usr/local and "manage" that installation with stow, but that is just me. See "/msg dpkg stow usage" and "/msg dpkg stow" for some details on stow. |
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| 15:31.20 | wes_incredible | babilen: Just tried it, the only application it looked like I've used that it would take was Chromium, but I use Chome now. I'll reboot and see what's busted, if anything. |
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| 15:31.42 | babilen | okay, even better |
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| 15:56.07 | jzbl | Hi, I am struggling to get release iceweasel, without pulling all experimental / unstable stuff. Anyone got a good method for this? So far I just added the Debian Mozilla APT repo, installed iceweasel 25.0 and removed. |
| 15:56.46 | babilen | jzbl: Removed what? |
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| 15:57.56 | xrosnight | hi |
| 15:58.23 | jzbl | babilen: mozilla debian repo from sources.list |
| 15:59.02 | jzbl | babilen: so populate sources.list with the experimental / unstable entries, install iceweasel release, then remove entries... |
| 15:59.37 | jzbl | babilen: that's stupid, so there should be a better way to do this, I don't want apt-get upgrade to mess up my jessie system. |
| 15:59.46 | boudiccas | jzbl; you could just comment them out so they're not used but still available for future use when uncommented again |
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| 16:00.11 | jzbl | boudiccas: that's the kind of thing I am doing now |
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| 16:02.08 | pbodymind | hei... I cant get no more than 1 MB/s in my USB 2.0 drives.. and I have no idea why... anyone knowns how to troubleshoot and solve this? thanks |
| 16:02.24 | wes_incredible | babilen: That didn't work out too well. Now the system will not boot. I (one time) managed to get a command prompt and attempted to install gnome-session, but it made no different. When I reboot to Debian, I'll want a list of must-have packages to get a working UI install of any variety. Do you know a way to reliably force a command prompt in a broken desktop install? Some shortcut key during the boot sequence? |
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| 16:11.04 | wes_incredible | babilen: Did you see my response? I think everyone must have gotten bumped. |
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| 16:13.28 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 16:14.04 | dutchfish | !tell jzbl about pbuilder |
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| 16:14.27 | eptalon | I am running testing/unstable, and I have a harddisk that tests ok, but that seems to cause problems. look at http://pastebin.com/TQuCYUkF (syslog excerpt); I wonder if I should be worried? |
| 16:14.42 | jzbl | pbodymind: when you plugin your USB and run 'dmesg' do you see line like: usb 4-1.2: new high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci-pci |
| 16:14.52 | boudiccas | eptalon; what does SMARTCTL say? |
| 16:15.11 | eptalon | boudiccas: nothing special. a long test passes fine. |
| 16:16.29 | eptalon | boudiccas: I am up and running, this is one drive of a raid; what worries me though is the XFS error log. |
| 16:16.58 | boudiccas | eptalon; sorry i know nowt about XFS :( |
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| 16:17.38 | pbodymind | jzbl: sorry.. my mistake.. the problem is writting to the SD card! here whats comes from dmesg: http://pastie.org/8535723 |
| 16:18.12 | eptalon | boudiccas: Starting about line 60, from line 80 you get a call trace; "dying drives" shouldn't do that? |
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| 16:18.57 | wes_incredible | babilen: Update, it is fixed. It was gdm3 that got removed in the process. I put it back manually and we're set. Thanks! |
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| 16:19.09 | pbodymind | here the rest of the dmesG: http://pastie.org/8535727 |
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| 16:19.48 | pbodymind | 100 kb/s ?? this is like.. i dunno... a floppy disk? jeje |
| 16:19.52 | boudiccas | wes_incredible; if you want to move away from gdm3 and gnome-stuff, try 'lightdm' its a perfectly acceptable alternative to gdm3 |
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| 16:20.13 | pbodymind | ups, wrong channel |
| 16:20.38 | wes_incredible | boudiccas: I'll look at doing that. I've got some other dependency nonsense to work out first. :) |
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| 16:32.52 | pengunix | So one should set mount entries in the lxc container config instead inside the fstab of the system inside the lxc container. |
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| 16:33.57 | pengunix | Is that right? And why? |
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| 16:34.10 | pengunix | Because of bind-mounting? What is with mounts inside the lxc container (loop)? |
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| 16:35.00 | Slyboots | Hello |
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| 16:35.22 | proton1h1 | hello everyone ... !! |
| 16:36.08 | proton1h1 | but wireless isn't working . |
| 16:36.09 | proton1h1 | i can't even connect to internet ..! |
| 16:36.17 | proton1h1 | can anyone pls help me out ..! |
| 16:36.20 | Slyboots | Need a bit of advice, Trying to build Perl 5.14 .4 from source in Debian wheezy. But its failing to complie right and Im strugglign to see why |
| 16:36.24 | proton1h1 | i have freshly installed debian into my system .. |
| 16:36.38 | pengunix | Because of bind-mounting? What is with mounts inside the lxc container (loop)? |
| 16:37.24 | joaocfernandes | what is the best solution to block a given process and all its child process and threads from accessing the network resources? |
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| 16:38.17 | abrotman | kill the process |
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| 16:39.32 | joaocfernandes | okay, but lets say i want to have the that process running but not accessing the network |
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| 16:41.22 | wjtaylor | I'm sure I'm being a bit OCD, but is there a way to reduce the width of the volume icon at the top of wheezy? It blocks the battery icon partially. |
| 16:41.41 | proton1h1 | any help for not working wireless ..!! |
| 16:41.49 | proton1h1 | i can't even connect to internet ..!// |
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| 16:42.01 | wjtaylor | photon1h1: has it ever worked? |
| 16:42.17 | proton1h1 | @wjtaylor you can install a gnome-extension ..! |
| 16:42.39 | proton1h1 | that chnages it to quit icon |
| 16:42.40 | proton1h1 | that may help you ... |
| 16:42.59 | proton1h1 | no @wjtaylor ....no it has never worked .. |
| 16:43.06 | proton1h1 | i've freshly installed debian ..! |
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| 16:43.31 | wjtaylor | protoon1h1: Cool thanks. Can you hardwire the pc? Have you added nonfree to your sources? |
| 16:44.05 | r00t-err0r | can any1 help me with this firmware and errors ? http://pastie.org/private/amcxoh9kbtbpa9xpfns4w |
| 16:44.12 | wols | proton1h1: what wlan chipset is it? lspci -nn should show you |
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| 16:44.59 | wols | r00t-err0r: what are you actually trying to do/solve? |
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| 16:45.45 | r00t-err0r | wols i getting this error when i backup ym sys |
| 16:45.58 | wols | which error? |
| 16:46.06 | r00t-err0r | read pastei |
| 16:46.11 | r00t-err0r | firmware ... something |
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| 16:46.20 | wols | that is no error |
| 16:46.22 | proton1h1 | and @wols ..it has broadcom corporatoion netwokr controller . |
| 16:46.27 | wols | "W" means warning |
| 16:46.51 | r00t-err0r | ok, but how ti include this firmwares in backup ? |
| 16:47.04 | wols | if you want to stop the warning you need to install firmware-realtek from non-free |
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| 16:48.38 | r00t-err0r | tnx |
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| 16:51.04 | arthurfiggis | r00t-err0r: you may also need firmware-ralink, i did for a similar error and chipset, but you may have different hardware of course :) |
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| 16:51.32 | r00t-err0r | tnx, i will try |
| 16:51.46 | xperement | when my screen is locked i see big blue square instead of login window, how to fix it? |
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| 16:52.43 | ratcheer | Sid dist upgrade removed foomatic-filters this morning. I can no longer print. If I try to reinstall foomatic-filters, that makes it want to remove a lot of stuff, including cups. |
| 16:54.49 | mtn | ratcheer: yep, that is the way it goes with sid. there is a channel for sid, just look in the /topic |
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| 16:55.39 | ratcheer | mtn: Thx. Looking for that channel... |
| 16:56.00 | g00se | A fonts 'what gives'?: https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts#Adding_fonts |
| 16:56.00 | g00se | "Above mentioned paths can be customized in the fontconfig configuration file at /etc/fonts/fonts.conf" |
| 16:56.03 | g00se | In that very file: |
| 16:56.05 | g00se | "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE. IT WILL BE REPLACED WHEN FONTCONFIG IS UPDATED. LOCAL CHANGES BELONG IN 'local.conf'." |
| 16:56.08 | g00se | There IS no file 'local.conf' on the system |
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| 16:58.07 | sweb | hey guys could you give me simple guide http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3732658 |
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| 17:01.41 | matjaz | exit |
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| 17:02.17 | babilen | dpkg: tell g00se about install font |
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| 17:02.57 | babilen | g00se: And you can always create files yourselfs, but please refer to the factoid out bot sent you |
| 17:03.00 | Jennifer36 | program writes only one huge line to a file, so grep prints my matching 10 character string, but just repeats the 3Mb file of the whole line, how can i print just the matching selection only? disregarding the rest of the line before and after my pattern? |
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| 17:06.01 | g00se | babilen: Thanks - shall look |
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| 17:08.37 | babilen | Jennifer36: "man grep" → -o |
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| 17:36.51 | daswort | hi i get this error: fuse: failed to open /dev/fuse: Permission denied |
| 17:37.21 | daswort | but my config looks like this […]user_allow_other |
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| 17:40.42 | pbodymind | daswort: /dev/fuse ? what are u trying to do? |
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| 17:41.28 | alex-eeepc | bunasera |
| 17:41.44 | alex-eeepc | *buonasera |
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| 17:45.11 | daswort | pbodymind~ just run sshfs |
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| 17:48.59 | ectospasm | sshfs only needs to run on the client, and the user needs to be part of fuse, IIRC |
| 17:49.04 | ectospasm | *fuse group |
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| 17:51.45 | yottanami | I used 'ssh-copy-id -i /home/myUser/.ssh/myUser.pub root@XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX' and I have a message that said WARNING: All keys were skipped because they already exist on the remote system. but I can not connect ssh without password. |
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| 17:53.15 | babilen | yottanami: Does your key use a passphrase? |
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| 17:54.26 | daswort | ectospasm~ oh right im not in the group. |
| 17:54.36 | yottanami | babilen: Yes, It does |
| 17:55.24 | ectospasm | yottanami: then you'll need to supply the password, or use ssh-agent to only supply it once for a limited period |
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| 17:55.34 | babilen | yottanami: So, that is why you have to enter your key's passphrase. You could run "ssh-add /home/myUser/.ssh/myUser" and enter your passphrase and ssh-agent should take care of it. |
| 17:56.56 | yottanami | babilen: I did it before but It can not works yet |
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| 17:58.44 | yottanami | ectospasm: I used ssh-add /..... befor |
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| 17:59.21 | babilen | yottanami: I'll be afk for a little while: But is ssh-agent running? Do you use Gnome? If so: Is gnome-keyring-daemon running? Could you paste actual output to http://paste.debian.net ? Make that "ssh -vvvvv ..." for extra debugging goodness. See you later! |
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| 18:00.46 | yottanami | babilen: I use Awesome, here is my ssh -v output http://dpaste.com/1496207/ |
| 18:00.46 | yottanami | How should I use ssh-agent ? |
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| 18:02.23 | no_gravity | Hello! How do I find out which CPU is inside a debian machine? |
| 18:03.07 | jelly-home | no_gravity: /proc/cpuinfo has information about it |
| 18:03.23 | no_gravity | jelly-home: thanks! |
| 18:03.24 | no_gravity | Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5630 @ 2.13GHz |
| 18:03.28 | no_gravity | Is that a fast thingy? |
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| 18:04.16 | ectospasm | not exactly |
| 18:04.32 | ectospasm | should be serviceable for Debian, though |
| 18:04.35 | jelly-home | it's just a random intel server cpu |
| 18:04.41 | ectospasm | ...depending on what you want to do with it |
| 18:04.43 | no_gravity | Is there a comparison of CPU speeds somewhere? |
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| 18:05.44 | no_gravity | ectospasm: running single threaded rendering software written in javascript. |
| 18:06.08 | ectospasm | sounds like unfun |
| 18:06.10 | jelly-home | no_gravity: CPU is hardly the only component involved in making a workload finish in shorter or longer time |
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| 18:06.24 | no_gravity | jelly-home: yeah thats true |
| 18:06.25 | Darryl | Hi everyone. |
| 18:06.28 | no_gravity | ectospasm: yes it is! |
| 18:06.30 | babilen | yottanami: I use gnome-keyring and libpam-gnome-keyring |
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| 18:07.05 | jelly-home | no_gravity: it's a server cpu from 2010, it has 12MB L3 cache, most things will run reasonably fast |
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| 18:07.22 | ALEXLIKEROCK | hi guys |
| 18:07.26 | ALEXLIKEROCK | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.27 | babilen | yottanami: But then you can use ssh-agent independently of that. It has to run though if you want to use it. |
| 18:07.48 | kyle__ | Is anyone out there using an LSI00244 (9201-16i)? Does it use an in kernel driver? |
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| 18:08.24 | no_gravity | jelly-home: i wonder how much faster the latest intel cpus would be regarding single threaded tasks. |
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| 18:08.48 | jelly-home | no_gravity: try it and see |
| 18:09.08 | no_gravity | jelly-home: i dont have the latest intel cpu :) |
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| 18:11.04 | wols | no_gravity: what cpu do you have? |
| 18:11.25 | no_gravity | wols: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU L5630 @ 2.13GHz |
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| 18:13.18 | wols | no_gravity: double. due to clock and IPC improvements |
| 18:13.35 | yottanami | babilen: I have gnome-keyring-daemon started , How can I use it to get the protected passkey ? |
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| 18:13.59 | kelpie | what are default font packages in debian? |
| 18:14.02 | blubberdiblub | kyle__, maybe one of the mpt2sas or mpt3sas kernel modules works. have you checked "lsmod" if one of those got automatically loaded? if not, can you "modprobe" them and check "dmesg" for errors or success? |
| 18:14.11 | no_gravity | wols: with "clock improvements" you mean the newest CPUs are at 3 GHZ or 4 GHZ or something? |
| 18:14.18 | kelpie | dejavu i suppose anything else? |
| 18:14.20 | babilen | yottanami: You should also have ssh-agent running now .. Then run "ssh-add ...." (I gave it before) again and see if it cached the passphrase for your next connections attempt. |
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| 18:14.30 | kyle__ | blubberdiblub: I don't have one yet. I was searching around, since I got badly burned with a highpoint rocketraid 2740 |
| 18:15.11 | wols | no_gravity: yes |
| 18:15.13 | kyle__ | blubberdiblub: I read several reviews that the 2740 that said it worked fine with the closed source driver, tried it, and am in an endless cycle with their support now. I need something better. |
| 18:15.25 | yottanami | babilen: Should I make ssh-agent and ssh-add auto start ? |
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| 18:15.41 | no_gravity | wols: interesting. would the fastest cpu these days be the Intel Core i7-4960X ? |
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| 18:16.00 | wols | no_gravity: certainly not for single cores. but: ##hardware |
| 18:16.07 | yottanami | babilen: Should I make ssh-agent auto start ? |
| 18:16.09 | wols | *single core loads |
| 18:16.32 | ectospasm | server class CPUs as a general rule have better throughput than desktop class. But that is an obscene generalization. |
| 18:16.36 | blubberdiblub | kyle__, ah, i understand. well, we rarely use HBAs at work, mostly RAID controllers, so i have hardly any experience with them other than "it should work in principle" |
| 18:16.41 | babilen | yottanami: I have gnome-keyring-daemon started automatically from gdm3 (check /etc/xdg/autostart); you can do whatever you want. :) |
| 18:16.43 | no_gravity | wols: ok, thanks! |
| 18:17.15 | kyle__ | blubberdiblub: Yeah. Well, this is a RAID controller, but I'm trying to use it just to access a 16 device backplane. |
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| 18:17.53 | blubberdiblub | kyle__, no, the 9201 is a SAS HBA, as far as i can tell |
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| 18:18.45 | kyle__ | blubberdiblub: hum. It has 4 internal SAS ports... shouldn't that be able to hook up to an internal backplane? |
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| 18:19.06 | blubberdiblub | kyle__, yes, of course. but it doesn't provide integrated RAID functionality |
| 18:19.07 | yottanami | babilen: Is the /etc/xdg/autostart directory of GDM ? |
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| 18:19.46 | babilen | yottanami: No, not at all. |
| 18:19.49 | kyle__ | blubberdiblub: I only use software RAID, unless i have multiple cards/boxes with close enough setup to recover my data. |
| 18:20.03 | kyle__ | blubberdiblub: So I"m really just using it as a JOBD card. |
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| 18:20.20 | babilen | yottanami: It is a general freedesktop standard directory in which to install .desktop files of applications that should be started automagically. |
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| 18:20.55 | blubberdiblub | kyle__, well, yeah, that's fine. anyway, as i said, we're mostly using their RAID controllers, which use the megaraid module, not the mptXsas modules, so i don't have experience with the latter |
| 18:21.09 | kyle__ | blubberdiblub: Hum. OK. Thanks. |
| 18:22.09 | yottanami | babilen: What is different between that and .xinitrc ? |
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| 18:23.28 | babilen | yottanami: It is recommended to use .xsession in lieu of .xinitrc on Debian (cf. "/msg dpkg .xinitrc), but I use gdm3 as I had multiple dbus/consolekit problems with .xsession in the past and the *only* thing I used to do on tty1 was to "startx" -- don't see the point and find gdm3 much more pleasant. |
| 18:23.44 | babilen | Oh, missing " after .xinitrc :) |
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| 18:26.46 | Arrowmaster | so if i let the systemd package be installed as a dependency of some gnome stuff that will convert the init system over right? |
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| 18:28.16 | wjtaylor | Using gnome 2 in Wheezy. I notice the icons do not show up on the desktop for cd/dvds. How can I get this? |
| 18:28.45 | mtn | wjtaylor: do you mean gnome3? |
| 18:28.53 | wjtaylor | gnome shell |
| 18:28.58 | Arrowmaster | thats gnome3 |
| 18:29.04 | wjtaylor | the new gnome desktop in wheezy |
| 18:29.06 | mtn | wjtaylor: install gnome-tweak-tool |
| 18:29.33 | wjtaylor | does that work for 2 + 3? |
| 18:29.44 | mtn | 5? |
| 18:29.49 | Arrowmaster | thats for 3 |
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| 18:30.20 | wjtaylor | Arrowmaster: do you know how to enable for gnome 2? |
| 18:30.31 | wjtaylor | in wheezy |
| 18:30.31 | mtn | wjtaylor: wheezy doesn't have gnome 2 |
| 18:30.39 | wjtaylor | There's a fallback |
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| 18:30.48 | wjtaylor | I'm using it now |
| 18:30.54 | mtn | wjtaylor: might have said so sooner ;) |
| 18:31.08 | wjtaylor | mtn: just keeping you on your toes :) |
| 18:31.21 | mtn | wjtaylor: and now I leave on my toes |
| 18:32.16 | Arrowmaster | thats still not gnome2, thats just gnome3 in fallback |
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| 18:32.40 | wjtaylor | ok. So the gnome-tweak-tool will work then? |
| 18:33.01 | wjtaylor | mtn: I stand corrected |
| 18:33.20 | blubberdiblub | kyle__, do you really need 4 internal multilane ports? |
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| 18:35.19 | Arrowmaster | i really should have left enough room to do lvm snapshots when i partitioned this drive, now im about to do something that could end badly without an easy to restore backup |
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| 18:38.13 | d_arcy | i have an array of size 2, but parsing it with "foreach" reveals there are 3 elements, the last one being empty |
| 18:38.16 | d_arcy | why is that ? |
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| 18:40.35 | d_arcy | sorry wrong channel ! |
| 18:40.44 | babilen | quite |
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| 18:53.06 | __FBi | Anyone have time for dumb OpenVPN questions? |
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| 18:53.53 | babilen | __FBi: yes, ##networking does |
| 18:53.56 | ompaul | __FBi: 99% certain it is a firewall issue |
| 18:54.09 | __FBi | no no, it's a newbie/user issue |
| 18:54.25 | babilen | __FBi: But then you might want #openvpn |
| 18:54.27 | ompaul | __FBi: ask the real question and there is a #openvpn channel |
| 18:54.31 | __FBi | however, I shall spam ##networking if you think that's best haha |
| 18:54.35 | __FBi | thanks |
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| 18:54.49 | ompaul | babilen: I'll take it if it isn't too long and time consuming |
| 18:54.56 | ompaul | __FBi: go on ask it |
| 18:55.01 | __FBi | 10-4 |
| 18:55.15 | __FBi | I'm trying to install a OpenVPM that I can use on my mobile phone |
| 18:55.16 | babilen | __FBi: We have no idea as you haven't asked a single question .. those two channels are certainly better for networking and openvpn specific questions, while this channel would cover the Debian side of it. |
| 18:55.30 | babilen | __FBi: Is your mobile phone running Debian? |
| 18:55.38 | __FBi | negative, but my server is |
| 18:56.17 | wols | we cannot and won't tell you what to install on your phone |
| 18:56.19 | __FBi | To create a 'user' that can use the login, do I simply adduser in Debian? |
| 18:56.37 | wols | __FBi: questions like this are answered by the documentation |
| 18:56.56 | ompaul | yes and how is that an openvpn question |
| 18:57.28 | __FBi | I just needed clarifying |
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| 18:57.34 | ompaul | of what? |
| 18:57.50 | ompaul | be exact and all on the next line or I'm off to the pub |
| 18:57.53 | __FBi | adduser, really |
| 18:58.06 | __FBi | I would never stop you from the pub :D |
| 18:58.42 | ompaul | __FBi: 5 minutes and no mention of openvpn I take it you don't have a problem with it |
| 18:58.45 | ompaul | wanders off |
| 18:59.01 | __FBi | night night |
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| 19:00.27 | __FBi | I'm getting a TLS handshake failed |
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| 19:06.16 | ompaul | __FBi: firewall see this I'm attired for the cold good luck http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/faq/79-client/253-tls-error-tls-key-negotiation-failed-to-occur-within-60-seconds-check-your-network-connectivity.html |
| 19:06.41 | OpenTokix | __FBi: it might be timeissue when you get that, install NTP - and wait some, it will resolve itself after a while usally |
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| 19:10.05 | __FBi | cert verified failed. I think I messed up the certs :/ |
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| 19:19.10 | rainfyre | hey folks. I'm trying to copy a 3.9 gig .img file from a fat32 sd card to a 64 gig exfat sd card |
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| 19:19.39 | rainfyre | but only 2.6 gigs will transfer. I've tried this using Thunar and rsync and the same thing keeps happening |
| 19:20.20 | rainfyre | Is there any reason that I can't transfer a file of that size in debian? |
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| 19:22.07 | __FBi | what is the biggest size fat32 can have? |
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| 19:23.43 | babilen | __FBi: 4GB IIRC, but check Wikipedia or MSDN yourself |
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| 19:24.25 | babilen | __FBi: Ah, entire partition? Well, check WP, can't remember |
| 19:25.07 | rainfyre | fat32 can handle 4gig files |
| 19:25.34 | rainfyre | supposedly exfat can handle files larger than 32 gigs |
| 19:25.40 | rainfyre | I mean, not supposedly |
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| 19:29.15 | Ranewen | hello |
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| 19:29.52 | Ranewen | is debian installer preinstalling packages ?? or do i have to install packages manually like arch ?? |
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| 19:30.52 | ompaul | Ranewen: a little more information about your objective might help answer that question |
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| 19:31.17 | Ranewen | ompaul: well i hate ubuntu and other deb based distros |
| 19:31.31 | Ranewen | ompaul: and i would like to install my own wm |
| 19:31.35 | ompaul | Ranewen: so answering your question is "sausages" |
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| 19:32.03 | babilen | Ranewen: You will end up with installed packages, but the selection is up to you. You will definitely get base packages, but you can select additional tasks. I would strongly recommend to install the "standard" task but everything else is up to you. |
| 19:32.06 | ompaul | Ranewen: netinstall and then choose to install one of the other wms there or something else |
| 19:32.25 | airstrike | i really want to use debian, but i just can't make a bootable usb driv |
| 19:32.30 | Ranewen | ompaul: ok i like how it sounds :) |
| 19:32.34 | ompaul | Ranewen: you didn't state an objective |
| 19:32.38 | airstrike | i'm on puppy linux right now |
| 19:32.47 | airstrike | i have downloaded the dvd iso, part 1 |
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| 19:32.56 | wols | airstrike: cp debian.iso /dev/sdd (or whatever your usb stick is. all data on the stick is lost) |
| 19:33.00 | babilen | Ranewen: Just don't install the desktop task, but install xorg (cf. <install x>) and a WM of your choice after the installation. |
| 19:33.05 | rainfyre | airstrike: just make a bootable usb with unetbootin |
| 19:33.12 | wols | airstrike: I suggest you use a netinst.iso or the CD iso |
| 19:33.15 | airstrike | wols: i get invalid partition table whenever i try to boot from it after cp'ing like that |
| 19:33.18 | ompaul | !unetbootin |
| 19:33.19 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 19:33.25 | Ranewen | babilen: so i am able to select like (ntfs support, java) ??? |
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| 19:33.40 | rainfyre | ompaul: I never knew that about unetbootin |
| 19:33.45 | babilen | airstrike: Just copy it to your USB drive. Assuming it is /dev/sdb it should be done with "cp debian.iso /dev/sdb ; sync" -- unetbootin is a broken piece of crap that causes more headaches than it's worth and it breaks out installers. |
| 19:33.46 | airstrike | ok, unetbootin is available on linux.. nice |
| 19:33.46 | ompaul | rainfyre: you do now :) |
| 19:33.54 | airstrike | i'm confused now |
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| 19:34.02 | wols | airstrike: do not use it if you want a working debian installer |
| 19:34.03 | airstrike | unetbootin worked fine for puppy linux :P |
| 19:34.09 | airstrike | ok. forget unetbootin. |
| 19:34.21 | babilen | Ranewen: No, you'll be offered very crude tasks such as "DNS server" or "Database" and so on. My suggestion is to install the standard task and to take it from there. |
| 19:34.26 | ompaul | airstrike: as root cat filename.iso > /dev/sdN where n is the usb stick |
| 19:34.35 | ompaul | or N is more to the point |
| 19:34.52 | babilen | dpkg: tell airstrike -about usb install |
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| 19:35.15 | Ranewen | guys... any websites/pictures that might help me ? |
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| 19:35.42 | babilen | airstrike: If you have a working internet connection it is typically recommended to use CD1 or the netinstall image. One thing you might want to make sure is that you have firmware ready if you have hardware that requires it. See <installer firmware> for details about that. |
| 19:35.43 | wols | Ranewen: you will install them after the installer is done. the installer allows you to choose between approx a dozen packages/roles. but you don't need to install any of them |
| 19:35.43 | rainfyre | ompaul: well, I've had issues installing debian with it, but I never realized that it was a unetbootin issue |
| 19:35.58 | Ranewen | wols: ok i understand |
| 19:36.16 | Ranewen | wols: is there any chance to download some apps from unstable ? |
| 19:36.25 | wols | !tell Ranewen about ssb |
| 19:36.35 | babilen | airstrike: You would essentially download http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current/ and unpack (!) it to the second partition on your newly created USB stick. |
| 19:36.40 | rainfyre | well my copy from fat32 to exfat looks like it's working this time |
| 19:36.42 | Ranewen | bot not working |
| 19:36.46 | wols | Ranewen: not if you want to keep your distro to debian stable. you can do backports or install some premade backports |
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| 19:36.53 | airstrike | to the second partition? |
| 19:36.59 | wols | Ranewen: the bot messaged you. it works |
| 19:37.22 | Ranewen | wols: y i see |
| 19:37.40 | Lady_Aleena | I am trying to set up my keyboard, however it isn't on the list of keyboards in KDE's System Settings -> Input Devices -> Keyboard. I'd like to set up the keys which controls playback on all of the media players I have, a button to bring up a calculator, and buttons to bring up the default browser, search, and email. It is a Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000 v 1.0. Any way I can get those keys to work? |
| 19:37.40 | Ranewen | wols: what are backports ? |
| 19:37.43 | babilen | Ranewen: We neither recommend nor support mixing stable with *anything* but backports. In particular testing and unstable will break your system. If an official backport does not exist you can, however, create your own rather easily for a bunch of packages by following <ssb> |
| 19:37.44 | airstrike | ompaul, does that work for the dvd iso too? |
| 19:37.52 | ompaul | Ranewen: learn to use debian before you do things that make such a mess you can't recover and get the advice of several hours ago ... reinstall it was that bad |
| 19:38.00 | ompaul | airstrike: why wouldn't it ;-) (of course it does) |
| 19:38.05 | wols | Ranewen: /msg dpkg backports |
| 19:38.12 | Ranewen | ompaul: ok :) |
| 19:38.18 | airstrike | ompaul, should i format the usb drive in any particular way beforehand? |
| 19:38.21 | ompaul | Ranewen: /msg dpkg frankendebian |
| 19:38.26 | ompaul | airstrike: no |
| 19:38.30 | Ranewen | ompaul: the reason why i came on debian (from arch is due to stability) |
| 19:38.32 | babilen | Ranewen: It really depends on the software in question. I wouldn't recommend to break your system in the first five minutes by pulling in packages from testing or unstable. Which software/package are you thinking about? |
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| 19:39.10 | Ranewen | babilen: ratpoison/weechat/some usbutils mainly |
| 19:39.16 | babilen | Ranewen: Keep in mind that "stable" in Debian simply means "not changing" and that it has very little to do with "working" or "bug free" -- We, naturally, work hard to ensure the other two attributes too |
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| 19:39.25 | ompaul | Ranewen: so don't think about changing stuff until you have a handle on how debian does stuff - you really don't need the bleeding edge (just yet) unless you got something other than "shiny new shit disorder" |
| 19:39.27 | babilen | Ranewen: Doesn't strike me too hard. |
| 19:40.08 | Ranewen | k... |
| 19:40.24 | Ranewen | how about partitioning/encrypting drives ? |
| 19:40.30 | Ranewen | does the installer allow that ? |
| 19:40.45 | babilen | Ranewen: ratpoison is 1.4.5 in wheezy, do you *really* need 1.4.6 ? weechat 0.4.2 is available in wheezy-backports already and therefore easy to install on wheezy ... |
| 19:40.55 | babilen | Ranewen: Yes, it does allow that. |
| 19:40.58 | babilen | dpkg: tell Ranewen -about ig |
| 19:41.12 | babilen | Ranewen: Please read the installation guide. A lot of your questions are answered in there. |
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| 19:41.36 | airstrike | trying cat ... |
| 19:41.41 | airstrike | will be back if it doesn't work |
| 19:41.50 | Lady_Aleena | I'll ask in #kde. |
| 19:41.56 | babilen | Ranewen: One word of advice: *If* you chose "Guided partitioning" you should double-check the partition sizes as the installer choses them too small for, say, /var ... |
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| 19:42.59 | babilen | airstrike: Just copy the image. "cp image.iso /dev/sdX ; sync" is all you need (with /dev/sdX being something like /dev/sdb and the device node of your USB stick, check "dmesg|tail -n23" after inserting it if you are unsure) |
| 19:43.22 | babilen | airstrike: then download the firmware.tar.gz, mount the second partition on that stick and unpack it there |
| 19:43.46 | airstrike | cp didn't work for some reason |
| 19:44.01 | babilen | airstrike: How so? |
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| 19:44.12 | airstrike | i got an 'invalid partition table' message when trying to boot |
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| 19:44.34 | babilen | airstrike: Which image did you copy and what was your exact command? Did you sync afterwards? |
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| 19:44.50 | ompaul | babilen: I'd guess the cat command was used which kills the partition table |
| 19:44.53 | airstrike | i've tried everything, always syncing. cp, dd and now cat |
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| 19:45.12 | airstrike | i've even tried two different usb sticks |
| 19:45.14 | babilen | airstrike: Which image do you use? Have you checked it's md5 sum? |
| 19:45.27 | airstrike | i have not |
| 19:45.30 | babilen | airstrike: What is the *exact* command(s) you used? |
| 19:45.35 | airstrike | i never do that, i must admit... |
| 19:46.16 | babilen | You might want to, but please be specific. I hate making assumptions and there might be a simply error hidden you in your command already. If not then lets check the checksum. |
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| 19:46.21 | airstrike | the last i tried was: dd if=debian-7.2.0-i386-DVD-1.iso of=/dev/sdc1 bs=4M; sync |
| 19:46.40 | airstrike | is the '1' the wrong part? |
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| 19:46.55 | babilen | airstrike: You have to copy to /dev/sdc not /dev/sdc1 -- That would make the command "cp debian-7.2.0-i386-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc ; sync" |
| 19:46.55 | ompaul | airstrike: do md5sum debian-7.2.0-i386-DVD-1.iso |
| 19:47.09 | Ranewen | allkay thx <3 |
| 19:47.17 | Ranewen | will contact you after i install it |
| 19:47.21 | babilen | airstrike: That is in line with the examples I gave earlier and my assumption was that it is *exactly* the mistake you made. |
| 19:47.38 | airstrike | right, i apologize for my ignorance |
| 19:47.42 | babilen | airstrike: I quite intentionally used /dev/sdb and /dev/sdX in my examples above. ;) |
| 19:47.52 | airstrike | i had tried that before your examples, sorry |
| 19:48.44 | babilen | airstrike: No problem, but you might understand now why it is important to show actual commands and their output. fwiw, you really don't need dd for this and cp/cat should work just fine. I also much prefer dcfldd over dd if I *do* need dd's special features. |
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| 19:49.35 | airstrike | 8a02d5add0d8ba9fa30bb2bfec7f7aab is the checksum |
| 19:49.41 | babilen | airstrike: Don't forget to download the firmware.tar.gz and to unpack it to the (then mounted) second partition (/dev/sdc2) on the stick. |
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| 19:50.17 | babilen | airstrike: Any particular reason why you want to install i386 and not amd64 btw? |
| 19:51.02 | airstrike | i'm on an old computer, '06-'07 |
| 19:51.07 | airstrike | 2gb ram max |
| 19:51.14 | babilen | airstrike: The checksum is wrong btw, it should be 3d2cc3b478f6aead32a025b7013b073b (cf. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-dvd/MD5SUMS ) |
| 19:51.16 | ompaul | e4d8772a785b1edcb9adcd045704b02d |
| 19:51.17 | airstrike | it does support 64-bit, but it's an old processor |
| 19:51.27 | babilen | airstrike: fair enough |
| 19:51.27 | airstrike | ok, off to download again |
| 19:51.43 | airstrike | the firmware link you gave me shows a blank page |
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| 19:51.53 | ompaul | e4d8772a785b1edcb9adcd045704b02d debian-7.2.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso |
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| 19:52.04 | babilen | ompaul: airstrike is using i386 |
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| 19:52.32 | ompaul | babilen: aye |
| 19:52.35 | babilen | airstrike: Let me get the actual mirror -- btw, why do you download DVD1. Don't you have a working internet connection on the computer you install on? |
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| 19:52.53 | lovingyou | hello |
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| 19:53.11 | lovingyou | I have a PCI NIC which does not show in the 70-persistent |
| 19:53.15 | lovingyou | however it seems to be there |
| 19:53.20 | babilen | airstrike: Try http://caesar.acc.umu.se/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current/firmware.tar.gz |
| 19:53.21 | lovingyou | 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I350 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 01) |
| 19:53.21 | lovingyou | 04:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I350 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 01) |
| 19:53.21 | lovingyou | b0:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I350 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 01) |
| 19:53.21 | lovingyou | b0:00.1 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation I350 Gigabit Network Connection (rev 01) |
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| 19:53.24 | airstrike | babilen: i have a wireless connection and that didn't work with the mini.iso |
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| 19:53.29 | lovingyou | ups, sorry |
| 19:53.34 | babilen | dpkg: tell lovingyou -about paste |
| 19:53.42 | lovingyou | so it seems to have 4 x i350 |
| 19:53.50 | lovingyou | however I can't bring eth2 and eth3 up at all |
| 19:54.09 | babilen | airstrike: mini.iso is not meant for installs from USB really (or not necessarily) and I guess that you were missing firmware. What does "lspci -nn|grep -i network" give you? |
| 19:54.17 | lovingyou | 70-persistent-net.rules shows only eth0 and eth1 :( |
| 19:55.07 | lovingyou | http://pastie.org/8536092 |
| 19:55.11 | lovingyou | anyone have any ideas? |
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| 19:56.17 | airstrike | babilen, nothing, on puppy linux |
| 19:56.25 | airstrike | the CD-1 checksum is correct, so that's a start.. |
| 19:57.52 | blubberdiblub | lovingyou, have you checked "dmesg" output if the igb module recognizes the other ones or throws errors related to them? |
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| 19:58.49 | babilen | airstrike: Is it a PCI or USB wireless adaptor? |
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| 19:59.01 | airstrike | pci |
| 19:59.04 | airstrike | i'm on a laptop |
| 19:59.11 | airstrike | it's an intel adaptor, iirc |
| 19:59.25 | lovingyou | http://pastie.org/8536100 |
| 19:59.25 | babilen | airstrike: Mind pasting the entirety of "lspci -knn" to http://refheap.com ? |
| 19:59.40 | lovingyou | seems that eth0 and eth1 are the PCI ones |
| 19:59.45 | lovingyou | so the motherboard ones doesn't show |
| 19:59.56 | airstrike | -k is an invalid option |
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| 20:00.10 | wols | airstrike: you will need a debian installer with firmware |
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| 20:00.17 | wols | !tell airstrike about firmware image |
| 20:00.20 | babilen | airstrike: Oh, it is not in my lspci version. Well, "lspci -nn" should suffice. |
| 20:00.21 | wols | unless you can use ethernet |
| 20:00.49 | blubberdiblub | lovingyou, "can't derive routing" and "can't reserve [mem ...]" doesn't sound good |
| 20:00.56 | babilen | wols: We've been there already, I try to figure out what the wireless card is before recommending a specific image. |
| 20:01.14 | wols | intel wireless |
| 20:01.20 | babilen | And airstrike seems to have downloaded CD1 already, so there isn't really a need to download yet another image. |
| 20:01.37 | babilen | wols: How do you know? airstrike simply *thinks* it is an intel adaptor AFAICT |
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| 20:02.02 | chrisoprase | hi |
| 20:02.05 | lovingyou | blubberdiblub, any recomendation? |
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| 20:02.38 | blubberdiblub | lovingyou, no. i could only guess wildly, but no experience with such problems, sorry |
| 20:02.39 | chrisoprase | Any ideas on how to run a mac app on debian? I have vmware/virtualbox bot no mac hardware |
| 20:02.51 | airstrike | babilen, http://dpaste.com/1496322/ |
| 20:03.02 | airstrike | that other paste tool wasn't working for me |
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| 20:03.20 | babilen | airstrike: That's "lspci -nn" on your box? |
| 20:03.27 | airstrike | yes.. i'm on puppy linux |
| 20:03.36 | babilen | airstrike: Are you sure that's not "lspci -n" ? |
| 20:03.47 | airstrike | positive |
| 20:03.54 | babilen | puppy linux is strange |
| 20:03.58 | airstrike | definitely... |
| 20:04.09 | lovingyou | nothing on google about that.. |
| 20:04.24 | airstrike | any number of n's yields the same result |
| 20:04.26 | blubberdiblub | lovingyou, is the onboard one enabled in your BIOS setup? |
| 20:04.30 | babilen | judd: pciid 8086:4222 |
| 20:04.31 | judd | [8086:4222] is 'PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel', 'iwl3945' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4222 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlegacy |
| 20:04.50 | wols | babilen: guess how big the lspci ID list is, then you know why puppy doesn't have it |
| 20:05.12 | babilen | airstrike: yeah, you need firmware for that. You can therefore either use the "unofficial" netinstall image with firmware wols pointed out earlier or provide firmware on a USB stick. |
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| 20:05.20 | babilen | wols: yeah :) |
| 20:05.35 | airstrike | can it be a different stick from the one where the iso was cat'd to? |
| 20:05.43 | lovingyou | wonder how to check that, I mean, where it is in bios :) |
| 20:05.51 | airstrike | i have usb sticks galore |
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| 20:06.16 | babilen | airstrike: I would recommend to use the firmware netinstall image, but you can alternatively unpack the firmware.tar.gz file to the *second* partition on the stick you created earlier. |
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| 20:06.41 | babilen | airstrike: You did download CD1 in a fit of "have to do something" earlier didn't you? |
| 20:06.47 | airstrike | i did |
| 20:06.48 | babilen | *downloaded |
| 20:06.52 | airstrike | i have both the DVD and CD iso's |
| 20:07.00 | airstrike | i can download any other image, it's okay |
| 20:07.07 | blubberdiblub | lovingyou, probably on the page where you enable/disable onboard audio, RS232, etc. |
| 20:07.13 | babilen | airstrike: Well, slightly suboptimal choice, but it's okay. Write it to the stick, mount the second partition and unpack the firmware file there. |
| 20:07.15 | airstrike | (meaning dvd1 and cd1). |
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| 20:08.22 | airstrike | let's do the optimal thing. assume i haven't done anything and i have an unformatted stick connected on /dev/sdb |
| 20:08.26 | babilen | airstrike: As said earlier: The best image for your case (good internet connection, needs firmware) would have been the unofficial image with firmware, but there really is no point in downloading yet another image as the installed is the same on all of them. (they simply differ in the packages that are on them and that don't have to be downloaded during the installation) |
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| 20:09.09 | babilen | So, write your CD1 image to the stick and unpack the firmware file on the second partition. |
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| 20:09.49 | blubberdiblub | lovingyou, while you're at it, also check if there any settings related to ACPI, that resources are set to automatically reserved, and if you have the setting, that "PNP OS" is enabled |
| 20:09.53 | airstrike | which file system should be used for the second partition? |
| 20:10.18 | babilen | airstrike: It is, IIRC, a FAT32 filesystem. But you shouldn't have to specify it when you mount it. |
| 20:10.30 | airstrike | it's currently 'unallocated' |
| 20:10.36 | babilen | Oh, is it? |
| 20:10.50 | airstrike | yeah |
| 20:11.11 | babilen | You've written the image as shown earlier? |
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| 20:11.40 | babilen | airstrike: Ah, well .. make it vfat (mkfs.vfat) -- May I see "fdisk -l /dev/sdb" ? |
| 20:12.08 | babilen | airstrike: I thought our images already contained a filesystem for the second partition. I should probably verify that assumption ... |
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| 20:13.50 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: System Settings -> hardware doesn't have what you want - maybe time to do it the old way (gulp I've not done this in 10 years) getting the mapping of xev and adding it to shortcuts if you can map the keys at all |
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| 20:14.46 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: you'd have to look there I've nightmares from the introduction of the euro to this day ;-) {not really that bad but a bit painful} |
| 20:15.31 | Lady_Aleena | ompaul, the Wireless version of my keyboard is listed, but not the wired. Also I can not set up my mouse by program. |
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| 20:17.00 | ectospasm | xev can be painful way to go, but sometimes it's all you've got. |
| 20:17.50 | airstrike | babilen, fdisk -l /dev/sdb is http://dpaste.com/1496335/ |
| 20:17.58 | babilen | "xev | grep -A2 --line-buffered '^KeyRelease' | sed -n '/keycode /s/^.*keycode \([0-9]*\).* (.*, \(.*\)).*$/\1 \2/p';" |
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| 20:18.39 | babilen | airstrike: That doesn't look like your USB stick. Are you sure it is /dev/sdb ? |
| 20:18.55 | Lady_Aleena | So, no graphical interface with my specific keyboard? |
| 20:19.11 | babilen | airstrike: Or maybe it does, but then there isn't a second partition. *sigh* |
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| 20:20.05 | babilen | airstrike: Ah, what the hell. Just download http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/ and be done with it. |
| 20:20.06 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: that might be it, but you should be able to approximate if you do search into using xev |
| 20:21.34 | airstrike | babilen, ok... haha |
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| 20:22.23 | airstrike | i really appreciate all your help |
| 20:23.31 | Lady_Aleena | Another thing, how do I fix KMix? I try to open it, but it just won't open. |
| 20:23.53 | Lady_Aleena | Do I need to reinstall it? |
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| 20:24.39 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: right click choose restore (assuming a recent kde can't remember when that came in) |
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| 20:25.09 | Lady_Aleena | ompaul, what do I right click, the shortcut in my menu? |
| 20:25.21 | ompaul | the kmix icon |
| 20:25.44 | Lady_Aleena | I have "Add to favorites" and "Uninstall" |
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| 20:27.23 | Lady_Aleena | So do I uninstall and then reinstall? |
| 20:27.52 | antithesis_ | When using apt to install a lot of packages at once, is it possible to have it fetch the archives continuously, rather than waiting for the previous package to be installed before fetching the next one? |
| 20:28.31 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: I wouldnt |
| 20:28.46 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: I'd look at alsamixer |
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| 20:28.56 | Lady_Aleena | How do I fix it then? |
| 20:29.06 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: run it on the command line |
| 20:29.27 | Lady_Aleena | alsamixer or kmix? |
| 20:29.34 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: alsamixer |
| 20:29.48 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: worst case create a new user - log in again and try your settings there |
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| 20:30.17 | Lady_Aleena | alsamixer and kmix are the same program? |
| 20:30.44 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: no, but underneath kmix is a very useful program called alsamixer |
| 20:31.04 | Lady_Aleena | ompaul, I spent two days in alsamixer trying to get my sound to work. |
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| 20:31.17 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: and did it? |
| 20:31.25 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: is it switched on in the bios? |
| 20:31.36 | ompaul | are you plugged into the right slots |
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| 20:32.11 | Lady_Aleena | ompaul, finally. But I am trying to get to the screen in KMix shown here: https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard/MultimediaKeys#Under_KDE |
| 20:32.28 | ompaul | break the problem down into as many constituent parts and see what you can change - one at a time |
| 20:32.54 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: do you have audio before you start looking at that? |
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| 20:33.13 | antithesis_ | Can anyone tell me what otherosfs is? |
| 20:33.19 | Lady_Aleena | ompaul, I have audio now, I am TRYING to set up my special keyboard keys. |
| 20:33.50 | Lady_Aleena | If KMix is broken, I want to fix it. |
| 20:34.06 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: I give you xev, and have fun with that. identify things and then tie them to stuff - stick with one problem |
| 20:34.24 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: or spend 20 seconds on everything and be frustrated |
| 20:34.38 | ompaul | learn one thing at a time - if you have audio leave the kmix stuff alone for a bit |
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| 20:35.56 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: my cyborg does what it says on the volumes etc auto configuration tends to work in default - perhaps time to set up a second user to go do the experiments with the keyboard so you don't kill what's left working for you |
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| 20:36.44 | airstrike | attempt #1825, brb |
| 20:36.50 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: that's given when you installed you told it the right kind of keyboard and I can't see too much difference between a usb wired and wireless they are both usb |
| 20:36.51 | Lady_Aleena | goes to read man xev. |
| 20:37.19 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: no, go read some docs that talk about web pages it is a bit of a head wrecker find a reasonable looking howto |
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| 20:37.41 | ompaul | * talked about in web pages (gaaaaa) |
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| 20:41.41 | Lady_Aleena | The weird thing is in xev, it looks like these keys have names. XF86Calulator, XF86Favorites. XF86AudioPLay. Can I do something with those? |
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| 20:42.39 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: what version of KDE? |
| 20:42.42 | Lady_Aleena | goes afk to check the laundry. |
| 20:42.53 | Lady_Aleena | ompaul, how do I find that out? |
| 20:43.05 | _AsMo_ | hello my englisch is not god , can me german-speak peopel help whit ffmpeg? |
| 20:43.06 | ompaul | help in any KDE app and choose about KDE |
| 20:43.12 | ompaul | !de |
| 20:43.12 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 20:43.18 | Lady_Aleena | Platform Version 4.8.4 (4.8.4) |
| 20:43.21 | _AsMo_ | thx dpkg |
| 20:43.57 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: alrighty then :) |
| 20:44.11 | Lady_Aleena | ompaul, take a break while I check the cottons. |
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| 20:45.28 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: I'll get some lomza in :) |
| 20:46.49 | lovingyou | http://pastie.org/8536100 |
| 20:46.59 | lovingyou | anyone knows why the on board nics doesnt work? |
| 20:47.37 | ompaul | lovingyou: use paste.debian.net and put in there ifconfig -a |
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| 20:48.52 | dury | hi there channel :-) |
| 20:48.58 | dvs | zzzzz |
| 20:49.07 | ompaul | wake up dvs visitors |
| 20:49.22 | dvs | !coffee dvs |
| 20:49.22 | dpkg | decants a fine broth of fair trade International Roast Caterers Blend for dvs, courtesy of dvs |
| 20:49.24 | dury | I've red this http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian#Debian_NetInstall but I'm not able to do that. I want debian to be the default OS in my BBB |
| 20:50.28 | dury | what should I do first? |
| 20:50.44 | ompaul | dury: define "not able to do that" |
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| 20:53.26 | ompaul | ahh I see |
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| 20:54.33 | ompaul | hans_henrik: got a sub domain called "photons.killed ./.. ;-) ? |
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| 21:12.54 | hans_henrik | ompaul, ask Pawz @ #timeofeve |
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| 21:13.49 | Lady_Aleena | is back from folding and then eating a little something. |
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| 21:14.26 | ompaul | hehe |
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| 21:15.30 | ompaul | hans_henrik: hehe |
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| 21:20.12 | qu | I haven't gotten any email in /var/mail/{user} since I reinstalled. |
| 21:20.28 | qu | I should at least be getting reports from rkhunter. |
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| 21:20.58 | ompaul | did you set up rkhunter the same way? |
| 21:21.07 | qu | I have exim listening on 127.0.0.1:25 |
| 21:21.08 | thowe | So, wpa_supplicant is launching on boot without going into the background. This is essentially giving me an unusable system as it goes no further. How do I start without network devices being started? |
| 21:21.43 | thowe | does the same in recovery mode. |
| 21:22.00 | ompaul | not the same question |
| 21:22.24 | qu | ompaul: O, I haven't set its email. |
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| 21:22.55 | ompaul | that's bound to have some im port on the question |
| 21:23.12 | qu | :p |
| 21:23.20 | qu | :p~ |
| 21:23.59 | babilen | thowe: Please read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz to learn about ways to integrate wpasupplicant with /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 21:25.48 | thowe | babilen, I did. That's what got me into this. It is in that file without the -B |
| 21:26.10 | thowe | My problem right now is I can't boot. |
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| 21:26.47 | Lady_Aleena | ompaul, I ran xev and got the keycodes and XF86 names here, what would my next step be? http://pastie.org/8536249 |
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| 21:28.08 | ompaul | what's with everyone and pastie nobody like http://paste.debian.net ... perhaps some op can add that to the topic without deleting anything in there, so please can you put that in the topic? |
| 21:28.24 | babilen | thowe: You have to provide more details about the actual configuration you are using. |
| 21:28.29 | Lady_Aleena | ompaul, it is what I have in my favorites. |
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| 21:29.19 | thowe | I just want to boot into a mode that doesn't try to do anything with the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 21:29.49 | thowe | wpa_supplicant is starting in the forground at boot and keeping me from even getting to a login prompt. |
| 21:30.22 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=89597 is an idea, as I said it is over 10 years since I last did it, I don't want to even think about it again |
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| 21:33.26 | ompaul | ( Lady_Aleena actually it's about 11 years since I had to use it in anger ) |
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| 21:36.22 | thowe | I can't even find a document to tell me how to get into single user mode. |
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| 21:36.37 | babilen | thowe: Boot into recovery, but it sounds as if you configured wpasupplicant slightly suboptimally |
| 21:36.42 | babilen | dpkg: tell thowe about single user |
| 21:36.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell thowe about single user mode |
| 21:36.59 | thowe | recovery has the same problem, first thing I tried. |
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| 21:37.28 | thowe | Guess I need a boot CD |
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| 21:37.45 | ompaul | thowe: try CTRL C and waiting a few minutes |
| 21:37.46 | thowe | Not sure why recovery mode starts the network... |
| 21:37.47 | babilen | thowe: Hmm, you could chroot into it from a live CD quite easily, /me recommends GRML or Debian Live Rescue |
| 21:38.05 | thowe | Tried lots of CTRL-C and CTRL-Z and other ttys... |
| 21:38.40 | ompaul | init 1 won't offer other ttys |
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| 21:40.35 | thowe | downloading a rescue CD now... Who knew WPA-Suplicant could completely disable a system... |
| 21:40.53 | ompaul | if it's there apt-get remove --purge it |
| 21:41.06 | thowe | I can't log in |
| 21:41.14 | thowe | if I could log in I wouldn't have an issue |
| 21:41.38 | ompaul | and you can't CTRL C wpa as it is booting |
| 21:41.46 | thowe | nope |
| 21:41.53 | ompaul | wonders where he can get popcorn at this time |
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| 21:42.20 | nobody_ | What is the debian equivalent command to authconfig on rhel systems? |
| 21:42.44 | ompaul | thowe: instict says that sounds like more than wpa broken but I have nothing other than a hunch that is the ase |
| 21:42.45 | ompaul | cas |
| 21:42.47 | ompaul | e |
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| 21:42.51 | ompaul | grunts |
| 21:43.50 | thowe | I had working wifi. I was trying to configure it for ifup/ifdown It is set to auto, and without the -B to go into the background. wpa_supplicant in the forground is apparently hard to kill. |
| 21:44.27 | thowe | why does a rescue CD need to be 700M? |
| 21:45.33 | babilen | thowe: I have no idea what you refer to, the seminal way of configuring wpa_supplicant in /etc/network/interfaces is to use roaming mode as detailed in the README file I mentioned earlier. Did you even read it? |
| 21:45.46 | babilen | thowe: Are you running wpa supplicant *manually* in there? |
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| 21:46.04 | ompaul | thowe: to offer an almost complete enviornment with gui and apps has some wireless stuff |
| 21:46.09 | babilen | thowe: GRML is 150/350MB |
| 21:46.12 | ompaul | looks at spelling and gives up |
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| 21:47.43 | ectospasm | you can install GRML in debian (makes a GRUB entry for you) |
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| 21:49.52 | babilen | ectospasm: yeah, that is a nice feature :) |
| 21:49.58 | thowe | looks like I should have just done wpa-conf /path/to/wpa_supplicant.conf |
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| 21:50.59 | thowe | does one still have to start wpa_supplicant first? when doing that? |
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| 21:51.37 | babilen | thowe: I would recommend the roaming mode |
| 21:51.37 | thowe | maybe the netinst CD will do the trick... |
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| 21:54.49 | codingrobot | I'm running debian on a small ARM board and want to use it as a transparent 3g-to-eth bridge. setting up a bridge iface wasn't a problem and the pc connected to the ethernet port receives IP from the isp over the 3g network and that's it, no more traffic happens. I assume the ISP checks the mac addresses. Any hints whether I should use ebtables or something? |
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| 21:57.47 | blubberdiblub | codingrobot, you could set the ARM board up to route it instead of bridging it |
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| 22:03.04 | drybjed | I'm writing an ansible playbook to manage Debian Wheezy servers, and I'm trying to do it in the correct Debian way. is this a good channel to ask about specific topics like ssl-cert for example, or should I ask somewhere else? |
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| 22:03.32 | Lady_Aleena | Oh, is this the place to beg for something in IceWeasel? |
| 22:04.16 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: what does "beg for something" mean ... is it a bug report - file a bug |
| 22:04.18 | codingrobot | blubberdiblub: I don't want to route. I want to heve the public IP on the server hanging on the ethernet port |
| 22:04.45 | Lady_Aleena | ompaul, I want to install a plug in which I KNOW if compatible, but IceWeasel won't let me install it. |
| 22:04.59 | ompaul | then it's not |
| 22:05.01 | Lady_Aleena | s/KNOW if/KNOW is/; |
| 22:05.09 | ratcheer | LOL |
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| 22:06.09 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: what is the plugins name? |
| 22:06.27 | Lady_Aleena | Get you the link. |
| 22:06.45 | blubberdiblub | codingrobot, i don't think you can do with ebtables what you want to do. unless you only ever want to connect one client box to the board |
| 22:07.02 | codingrobot | i want to connect only one client :) |
| 22:07.07 | Lady_Aleena | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/classic-compact/?src=collection&collection_id=6e386114-443f-3b92-7ced-c4bfbea84e6b |
| 22:07.29 | codingrobot | the client will handle all the layer3 stuff |
| 22:08.22 | blubberdiblub | codingrobot, well, then you can, i believe. you might need to use iptables in tandem with ebtables, tho, to thoroughly change the packets |
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| 22:09.05 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: and your version of iceweasel? (menu - help -> about) |
| 22:09.24 | Lady_Aleena | 17.0.10 |
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| 22:11.31 | Lady_Aleena | I thought Firefox and IceWeasel were exactly the same with just cosmetic differences. |
| 22:12.28 | mtn | Lady_Aleena: you can install a newer one by going here: http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 22:12.48 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: well ... https://forums.mozilla.org/addons/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4593&sid=69dae54d0432612e632de81510c66532&start=25 and you can also check out the fact that it may conflict with some other extensions |
| 22:13.14 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: once you have shown that it is not working with some other addon they want to hear about it |
| 22:13.28 | ompaul | Lady_Aleena: or else they want to know other stuff of a similar nature |
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| 22:18.23 | xiong | Hi. After meditating on my sins, running a mixed stable/testing VPS; I decided to upgrade to testing only. I ran apt-get upgrade and most of it went very well, until toward the end: http://perl.nopaste.dk/p68697 |
| 22:18.29 | ompaul | drybjed: what's the error message |
| 22:18.34 | FancyBird | Hi. My server recently broke, so I decided to cut my losses and just reinstall the server. |
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| 22:18.44 | FancyBird | And now it's broken in the same way again. |
| 22:18.50 | Lady_Aleena | OH! I forgot to disable the compatibility checker. |
| 22:18.56 | ompaul | FancyBird: so you did the same mistake |
| 22:19.05 | ompaul | FancyBird: what was that |
| 22:19.12 | FancyBird | I ran sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 22:19.13 | xiong | Call me stupid but I logged out and rebooted the VPS. Now it's just dead in the water. I'm restoring from backup now, of course. How can I avoid the upgrade process overwriting these essential config files? |
| 22:19.21 | FancyBird | it seems that initclt is broken on my server |
| 22:19.23 | FancyBird | I get " timeout opening/writing control channel /run/initctl" |
| 22:19.28 | linus_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:19.54 | ompaul | xiong: and you changed the sources from the ones your ISP gave you? |
| 22:19.59 | wols_ | linus_: so what happens when you reboot? |
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| 22:20.43 | xiong | ompaul, I'm unclear what you just asked. I edited /etc/apt/sources.list, yes; to 'jessie'. |
| 22:21.01 | xiong | I thought that would give me a straight testing server. |
| 22:21.09 | linus_ | wols: i update the sysrem to grt amessage that the system might b brokrn |
| 22:21.11 | ompaul | xiong: and I bet their machines can't support that - speak to your provider |
| 22:21.39 | xiong | Really? Because the mixed stable/testing sever did work. |
| 22:21.45 | ompaul | xiong: also know that if you change kernels to a nonvps provided one you can end up with a very broken machine |
| 22:22.03 | ompaul | xiong: really yes check their docs |
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| 22:22.21 | xiong | Hm. That issue did not really bounce around in my head. |
| 22:22.40 | ompaul | xiong: when using a vps remember you need the infrastructure to support what you want to to |
| 22:22.47 | ompaul | s/to to/to do/ |
| 22:23.05 | xiong | I may have done a terrible thing, dunno. I can't seem to restart the server from the external-to-the-virtual-server control panel, even after restore. |
| 22:23.18 | ompaul | restore again and stop breaking it |
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| 22:24.12 | linus_ | wols,it says some thing about gk2 ,i can't keep my desktp settings saved and transmission would not start |
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| 22:24.28 | xiong | Well, I'm stuck at step 1 of that plan, ompaul; the restore. |
| 22:24.57 | ompaul | xiong: restore the data copy it elsewhere clean reinstall |
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| 22:25.30 | ompaul | xiong: you can't do what is not possible to do :-/ |
| 22:25.33 | xiong | Eh? This is a feature provided by the host. Backup, restore. |
| 22:25.53 | ompaul | restoring a borken boxen isn't usually in that plan |
| 22:25.55 | xiong | Do you know what I mean by a control panel? This is external to the VPS. |
| 22:25.57 | wols_ | linus_: makes no sense. but debian itself is starting right? so start it and then tell us the actual and EXACT error message |
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| 22:26.09 | Penix | xiong: then speak them about it |
| 22:26.12 | ompaul | xiong: I do, and that is beyond the scope of #debian |
| 22:26.13 | Penix | to even |
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| 22:26.55 | xiong | Well, of course, ompaul. That was never my question here. I asked how to avoid overwriting the xinetd configuration files on upgrade. |
| 22:26.56 | ompaul | xiong: have you heard of frankendebian you may have a frankenvps-kind-of-made-of-debian-bits |
| 22:26.59 | linus_ | wols_: ok,i'll logout now |
| 22:27.25 | ompaul | xiong: version changes may not like the same config files |
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| 22:27.44 | xiong | You may be right. |
| 22:27.46 | ompaul | !frankendebian |
| 22:27.46 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 22:28.04 | ompaul | I'm in #linux but I won't even try :) |
| 22:28.07 | Jennifer36 | anyone using syba pci40010 4port sata2 controller? |
| 22:28.24 | xiong | I think I started with straight Debian stable, wheezy. I installed that myself, it's clean. |
| 22:28.25 | ompaul | Jennifer36: ask the real question please |
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| 22:28.47 | xiong | I'm going to abandon the plan to upgrade to testing, then. |
| 22:28.57 | ompaul | good plan |
| 22:29.12 | xiong | Ah, but I was told the mixed system was a bad idea. |
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| 22:31.39 | xiong | In any case, thanks. |
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| 22:32.22 | Jennifer36 | what's the max support raw useable HDD size of the Silicon Image SIL3124 Serial ATA (SATA2) Host Controller Chipset in JBOD mode? |
| 22:32.39 | Lady_Aleena | Is there a gallery of programs I can install somewhere. I'm looking for a prettier calculator than KCalc. |
| 22:32.42 | Jennifer36 | i can't get any answeres googling, besides waiting on syba, i'm asking here. |
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| 22:34.50 | mtn | Lady_Aleena: find them in synaptic, install and compare |
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| 22:37.08 | Penix | Jennifer36: a minute of googling returns results mentioning 48bit LBA for that chipset |
| 22:37.32 | Jennifer36 | Penix: didn't think to focus on 48bit addressing...my bad |
| 22:38.02 | Jennifer36 | obviously google isn't the best unless you ask the correct questions. |
| 22:38.05 | Jennifer36 | thanks |
| 22:38.19 | Lady_Aleena | mtm, I can't find synaptic. Could it have another name? |
| 22:38.49 | mtn | Lady_Aleena: if you are using debian, that is it's name. maybe you need to install it? |
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| 22:39.36 | Lady_Aleena | mtn, I have something called Apper for software management. However, I will look for synaptic some more. |
| 22:39.50 | mtn | Lady_Aleena: you can also use apt-get or aptitude to search for programs. http://packages.debian.org, too |
| 22:39.51 | Penix | Jennifer36: should support atleast 2TB drives I'd think, but I wouldn't expect fantastic performance from a controller like that. maybe they've improved over time though |
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| 22:40.45 | mtn | Lady_Aleena: I haven't used apper, but I suspose it will work, too. |
| 22:40.56 | Jennifer36 | nope, neither do i. system smoked, i don't have the budget to get the array back online with PCI express, so a bandaid pci card, move drives over, few mdadm commands, back up until further notice. |
| 22:41.35 | Jennifer36 | but i'm on 4x3Tb drives., reason i'm making the effort on reasearch |
| 22:42.18 | Lady_Aleena | mtn, so apper is sort of/kind of like synaptic? |
| 22:42.33 | frostschutz | Jennifer36, I have two PCI-E SATAIII controllers ASM1602 controllers, they were like $10 each, they work fine |
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| 22:42.47 | mtn | Lady_Aleena: does if find and install programs? if so, yes it is like it |
| 22:42.55 | Lady_Aleena | mtn, thank you. |
| 22:43.05 | Jennifer36 | frostschutz: i need new motherboard, cpu/ram, etc...but thanks for the info. |
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| 22:45.05 | frostschutz | Jennifer36, any current mb should be good for 3tb disks... |
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| 22:47.41 | Jennifer36 | budget for next year is just around the corner |
| 22:48.02 | Lady_Aleena | I didn't realize I would need to use the mouse so much, I'm used to being able to keyboard almost anywhere. |
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| 23:06.30 | rryoumaa | can you boot from an external 4tb drive on an old motherboard if your root partition is small? |
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| 23:47.14 | juul | I'm on a Xen VPS and uname says "2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP" and I've done "aptitude install linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64" and rebooted |
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| 23:47.32 | juul | how do I force debian to switch to the 3.2 kernel? |
| 23:48.08 | dvs | juul: A reboot should do it. |
| 23:48.58 | dvs | juul: I'm not sure how to reconfigure Xen if there is anything to do. |
| 23:49.35 | juul | ok, maybe something in grub's configuration got borked |
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| 23:51.09 | Penix | juul: are you using a proper xen guest with full virtualization? |
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| 23:56.37 | juul | Penix: Oh! found the problem. Some errant lines in grub's menu.lst |
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