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| 00:03.09 | owen1 | I can't run simple commands. for example 'ls' tells me 'no such file or directory'. debsums -s shows me that the following were chaged: ls, md5sum, find, ifconfig, scp, sftp, ssh, sshd, pstree |
| 00:03.11 | owen1 | does it means my system was compormised (again!)? what should be my next step? |
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| 00:03.59 | nevyn | disconnect it from the net? |
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| 00:05.22 | mutante | owen1: depends if you just want to get it back up or actually find out why it happened |
| 00:05.38 | mutante | if the latter, i guess make a disk image |
| 00:06.10 | owen1 | mutante: it is the second time it happens. |
| 00:06.39 | JordanJ2 | Hello, I am using Debian in a virtual machine and cannot connect via a bridged connection. |
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| 00:07.39 | mutante | owen1: hmmm .. http://staff.washington.edu/dittrich/misc/forensics/ |
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| 00:09.20 | mutante | owen1: after the first time, have you re-installed ? |
| 00:09.22 | owen1 | mutante: i don't have days to spend on Forensics |
| 00:09.31 | owen1 | mutante: yeah. re-installed debian |
| 00:09.45 | owen1 | and everything was fine for a few weeks |
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| 00:10.03 | mutante | do you have local users? |
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| 00:11.26 | mutante | owen1: you could set it up to send all the logs to a remote syslog server, so if it happens again at least you can be a bit more sure they havent been tampered with as well .. |
| 00:11.33 | owen1 | i have the user that is created during the install |
| 00:11.38 | owen1 | is that what u mean by local users? |
| 00:11.59 | mutante | i mean other users that can ssh into your box legitimately |
| 00:12.22 | owen1 | i am the only person that access this box |
| 00:12.39 | mutante | i'm trying to figure out if all you needed was "just" a local privelege escalation..or a remote exploit |
| 00:12.42 | mutante | ok |
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| 00:16.10 | owen1 | i guess i can re-install debian |
| 00:16.32 | mutante | owen1: well, check what other services you are running (besides ssh), make sure you have all the security upgrades, get rid of unnecessary things, change all your passwords right now.. it's not really possible to analyze it over IRC anyways |
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| 00:17.31 | owen1 | mutante: ok. i will reinstall debian first. |
| 00:17.39 | mutante | owen1: you can use dpkg --get-selections > somefile and after reinstall --set-selections < somefile , to save you the part of reinstalling the exact same packages |
| 00:17.43 | DeepBlue | hi,i installed the minimum system installation because of connection failure,i could only drop to shell prompt,then i edited the mirror list and ran these commands:apt-get install vim-gtk,aptitude update &&aptitude install xorg,apt-get install fxce4.now i want to activate and log in xfce,how 2 do it? |
| 00:17.57 | owen1 | ok |
| 00:18.06 | owen1 | mutante: do i need to format my drives? |
| 00:18.14 | mutante | owen1: i would wipe them |
| 00:18.15 | owen1 | or just reinstall debian should be fine |
| 00:18.29 | owen1 | from the debian installer? |
| 00:18.49 | mutante | owen1: if you use the options with crypted filesystem that should be good enough |
| 00:19.06 | mutante | it will start to delete existing data too at that step |
| 00:19.59 | owen1 | mutante: i'll look for 'crypted' option during the install |
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| 00:21.02 | Dan39 | is it normal on a VPS for syslog to like... not log anything? or is something just configured wrong? like i see nothing new in /var/log/auth.log besides "server listening" lines and a chpasswd root from when it seems the VPS was first setup |
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| 00:22.03 | mutante | owen1: -> guided partition -> use entire disk and setup encrypted LVM |
| 00:22.15 | frostschutz | Dan39, is it a real vps running your own kernel? then everything should behave as on a real server. if its a fake vps I don't know really... never used those |
| 00:22.20 | mutante | owen1: i'm not absolutely sure if it's just in expert install |
| 00:22.31 | Dan39 | frostschutz: i dont know, its cheap vps from OVH |
| 00:22.31 | mutante | owen1: but "Graphical Expert" wfm |
| 00:22.50 | Dan39 | sure doesnt seem like my own kernel, dmesg is empty |
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| 00:24.13 | owen1 | mutante: also, i have multiple drives (hp office server) so i use raid - https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SoftwareRaidRoot |
| 00:24.18 | owen1 | not sure if it matters |
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| 00:27.03 | mutante | owen1: it doesnt if you use a hardware raid controller, it does if you use software raid, so yea. it's possible but if you dont want the crypto, you can also just format the disk or wipe it with dban.org |
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| 00:30.56 | owen1 | mutante: i think i use software raid. it should be possible to format from the installer, i assume. |
| 00:31.06 | mutante | owen1: yea, should be |
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| 00:50.27 | owen1 | i just want simple debian install. i have 4 drives and for the sake of simplicity i decided not to use any raid or llvm. |
| 00:50.29 | tharkun_ | owen1: you get IIRC 5 phisical partitions the rest must be logical. Arrange them as you see fit. The actual difference does not matter to the general server administrator. |
| 00:50.46 | tharkun_ | owen1: Do you have a phisical raid card? |
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| 00:50.54 | owen1 | tharkun_: i don't know |
| 00:51.01 | owen1 | i have an hp micro server |
| 00:51.09 | owen1 | it comes with 4 drives. |
| 00:51.13 | owen1 | each one 250gb |
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| 00:51.45 | tharkun_ | owen1: Do you have any type of OS on your server? |
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| 00:52.17 | owen1 | tharkun_: i was compromised twice already. not sure why but decided to make my password harder and stop using raid/lvm |
| 00:52.47 | owen1 | tharkun_: so i have debian on my server, but i am in the installer ready to reinstall it. |
| 00:52.50 | tharkun_ | owen1: raid and lvm are not compromise vector. What else was running on your server? |
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| 00:52.56 | owen1 | ssh |
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| 00:53.22 | tharkun_ | owen1: Only ssh? |
| 00:53.25 | owen1 | i don't understand how to manage raid and lvm, so there is no point of me setting them up. |
| 00:53.36 | gabedwrds | tharkun_: 4 primary partitions, and an extended partition (contains logical partitions) counts as one |
| 00:53.44 | owen1 | tharkun_: mainly ssh, yeah |
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| 00:53.50 | aquaticape | Is it possible to start an X session on a remote machine over ssh? I don't want to forward X back to the machine I'm on, I want to start an X session for the remote machine on the monitor it's hooked up to and then start a remote gui application on that machine. |
| 00:53.58 | owen1 | tharkun_: i use this box for running my wechat and other simple stuff |
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| 00:54.01 | mutante | owen1: netstat -tulpen |
| 00:54.11 | owen1 | mutante: i am already inside the debian installer. |
| 00:54.17 | tharkun_ | owen1: mainly ssh is not only ssh. Identifying the forensics is a major part in avoiding it later |
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| 00:54.20 | owen1 | not sure if i can access terminal |
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| 00:54.38 | owen1 | mutante: can i run commands while in the installer? |
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| 00:54.49 | tharkun_ | owen1: use a single drive as a regular/standard install then add the rest as you see fit |
| 00:55.09 | tharkun_ | owen1: IIRC ctr alt f2 will give you a minimalistic shell |
| 00:55.12 | mutante | owen1: don't worry about it then, that was for while the system is up to see what is really listening besides ssh |
| 00:55.28 | mutante | yea, you can run commands. but ...it wont help now |
| 00:55.32 | mutante | to see open ports |
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| 00:56.35 | tharkun_ | owen1: When you are finished installing take a look at the factoid aptitude clone It will give a nice piece of information for further analysis ;P |
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| 00:57.17 | owen1 | mutante: i'll run it if it happens again. for now, i have 4 drives, should i set one as primary + bootable and the other 3 as primary but not bootable or should they be logical? |
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| 00:59.28 | tharkun_ | owen1: Set up your system using one disk with only one partition, Add the rest as you see fit. |
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| 00:59.48 | gabedwrds | owen1: primary vs logical means basically nothing, other than the limit of 4 |
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| 01:00.11 | mutante | owen1: yea, you kind of mixed up disks and partitions there, you just want one of them to be bootable and what the others said |
| 01:00.26 | gabedwrds | limit of 4 PER disk* |
| 01:00.34 | mutante | owen1: not related to security at all though |
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| 01:04.29 | tharkun_ | owen1: BTW if you are to admin a server iptables is your friend. It has some nice modules that can do WONDERS |
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| 01:06.07 | owen1 | tharkun_: gabedwrds: http://i.imgur.com/uz8LMQX.jpg is that the corrent way? i don't know how to translate your guidance into the settings in the installer, so a picture might be better than words. |
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| 01:06.48 | gabedwrds | owen1: don't do logical partitions for single-partition drives |
| 01:06.52 | gabedwrds | it doesn't matter, but it's silly |
| 01:07.06 | owen1 | gabedwrds: ok. so change all the logicals into primary |
| 01:07.16 | gabedwrds | ...also are you sure you want to use a flash drive? |
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| 01:07.58 | gabedwrds | but yes, just make them all primary |
| 01:08.31 | owen1 | flash drive? no |
| 01:08.39 | owen1 | it's just my way to install debian |
| 01:08.55 | owen1 | how do i remove that from that list? |
| 01:08.59 | owen1 | thanks for noticing |
| 01:09.13 | gabedwrds | I forget, but I imagine you can select it and pick an option for "don't use this disk" |
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| 01:11.20 | mouz\lex | can anyone help me get xmonad-contrib on sid? Even after reverting my sources.list to wheezy or jessie I still don't seem to be able to install it |
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| 01:13.21 | tharkun_ | !ssbp |
| 01:13.21 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 01:13.26 | tharkun_ | mouz\lex: ^^ |
| 01:14.24 | mouz\lex | !bdo |
| 01:14.25 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <wheezy backports>) and oldstable (<squeeze backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 01:14.53 | wols_ | ,v xmonad-contrib |
| 01:14.54 | judd | No package named 'xmonad-contrib' was found in i386. |
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| 01:15.02 | tharkun_ | mouz\lex: There is a way to tell the bot to talk to you directly. (/me is a bit rusty on that) |
| 01:15.14 | wols_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.25 | tharkun_ | thanks wols_ |
| 01:15.43 | mouz\lex | I'm just looking to install xmonad-contrib on x64 sid |
| 01:16.21 | tharkun_ | !pieces |
| 01:16.22 | dpkg | [sid] the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 01:16.28 | owen1 | tharkun_: gabedwrds: http://i.imgur.com/y47XLFE.jpg now all 4 have primary, ext4 but only the first is bootable. |
| 01:16.38 | owen1 | still don't know what to do with the usb |
| 01:16.42 | owen1 | usb driver |
| 01:16.44 | owen1 | drive |
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| 01:17.10 | tharkun_ | owen1: sorry can't help there only cli and sh&#%$ connection today |
| 01:17.20 | gabedwrds | owen1: I think if you proceed with those options, it'll delete the partitions from the flash drive |
| 01:17.23 | owen1 | tharkun_: (: |
| 01:17.46 | owen1 | gabedwrds: right, how do i tell him "don't toch my flash drive" (: |
| 01:18.09 | gabedwrds | ^ anyone remember the answer to that? |
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| 01:18.34 | gabedwrds | I would try selecting the drive itself, hitting enter, and looking for an option that sounds like "don't partition/use this drive" |
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| 01:18.49 | MisterE | hi |
| 01:18.54 | tharkun_ | Easy erase that from the partition lists. IIRC you just delete it and leave it to noot be used |
| 01:19.22 | MisterE | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:19.32 | gabedwrds | owen1: I guess the other thing I'd mention is that you don't have any mountpoints set for the other partitions, so they wouldn't be used for anything automatically |
| 01:19.34 | owen1 | tharkun_: gabedwrds when i click on the drive i am presented with the option to create new partinion table on this device yes/no |
| 01:19.35 | MisterE | a/hand/hang* |
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| 01:19.42 | gabedwrds | owen1: try no |
| 01:19.58 | MisterE | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:20.14 | tharkun_ | !tell MisterE about metasploit |
| 01:20.30 | owen1 | gabedwrds: i only have / for drive 1. is it better to have more mount points on the others? |
| 01:20.37 | owen1 | i don't understand the implications |
| 01:20.47 | gabedwrds | depends on what you want |
| 01:20.55 | tharkun_ | owen1: Is this a critical server? |
| 01:20.59 | MisterE | it's not specific to metasploit it's a general question about confirming an installation process completed successfully tharkun_ |
| 01:21.01 | gabedwrds | as it is, everything goes on the first drive and the other drives have empty partitions |
| 01:21.02 | owen1 | simple debian install. not critical |
| 01:21.17 | MisterE | any way to do that other than remove / reinstall? |
| 01:21.23 | gabedwrds | in your previous screenshot, the second drive had /usr, so the entire contents of /usr went on that drive |
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| 01:21.49 | owen1 | gabedwrds: right, but now after switching to primary for all drives, i didn't mount anything on 2,3 and 4 |
| 01:21.51 | tharkun_ | MisterE: metasploit is NOT debian. Don't expect people here to know ALL about EVERYTHING. #metasploit knows its way around metasploit. Not Debian |
| 01:22.04 | gabedwrds | tharkun_: don't be a dick, it's a package management question |
| 01:22.10 | owen1 | i don't know what does it mean to mount anything on them or not to. |
| 01:22.19 | MisterE | I could have just left off thename of the darn package |
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| 01:22.25 | MisterE | I knew I should have |
| 01:22.30 | MisterE | because it;s a pentesting app |
| 01:22.45 | MisterE | thank you gabedwrds |
| 01:22.49 | gabedwrds | MisterE: it's probably fine if apt considers it installed, but if you want to be sure, just remove and reinstall |
| 01:22.56 | MisterE | ok great |
| 01:23.12 | MisterE | much appreciated I feel like it completed and the UI hung on refresh |
| 01:23.14 | tharkun_ | MisterE: Really I'm not trying to be a dick. I have a custom install package working in some machines and if i asked here about it I wouldn't expect a real answer |
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| 01:23.25 | MisterE | just wanted a second opinion really |
| 01:23.29 | gabedwrds | owen1: mounting means that the partition gets used as /usr or /home or whatever it's mounted as |
| 01:23.43 | owen1 | gabedwrds: what if i only mount / on #1 |
| 01:23.47 | MisterE | tharkun_, totally understand I'm not put off at all :) |
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| 01:23.56 | owen1 | what will happend to the other 3 drives? |
| 01:23.57 | tharkun_ | MisterE: Anyway I will suppose you are using bash as your primary shell And I expect that 0 is for ok and 1 or above 1 to some problem on the install process |
| 01:23.58 | themill | MisterE: You'll get better help about 3rd party repos from the people who look after them. We can't know anything about what manner of crap they have in them |
| 01:24.01 | owen1 | i will not be able to use them? |
| 01:24.04 | tharkun_ | But then that is too general |
| 01:24.08 | gabedwrds | owen1: then the entire install goes on disk #1 and the others aren't used for anything |
| 01:24.15 | owen1 | i want to use 2, 3 and 4 for storage |
| 01:24.23 | MisterE | I understand |
| 01:24.26 | owen1 | it's a waste to have disks with no usage |
| 01:24.38 | MisterE | but is there a standard way in debian to confirm an installation process completed? |
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| 01:24.47 | MisterE | in mac os x there's a receipt file you can check |
| 01:24.58 | MisterE | I still have the packages in /var/cache/apt/ |
| 01:25.00 | owen1 | gabedwrds: actually, can i have disk 2 as a backup debian? |
| 01:25.07 | owen1 | and use 3 and 4 as extra storage? |
| 01:25.41 | petn-randall | gabedwrds: We get a lot of questions from people that run distros based on debian that do things slightly different. Because of that, and for a number of technical and social reason we don't support any other distros than Debian in here. |
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| 01:25.46 | tharkun_ | MisterE: If it where debian apt-file search pkg-name can give you a list of files that you can manually check. But really you are better off asking the people that know the compilation options used there. |
| 01:26.07 | MisterE | I see |
| 01:26.25 | gabedwrds | petn-randall: I didn't hear anything about it not being debian |
| 01:26.33 | MisterE | on right apt-get contacts different repos depending on the distro |
| 01:26.43 | MisterE | kali in my case |
| 01:26.50 | tharkun_ | MisterE: The devil is in the details. Sorry to tell you that. But then you should know that by now |
| 01:26.51 | gabedwrds | sorry if I come off as rude but I hate the attitude of "let's find anything we can to get someone to go away" |
| 01:26.55 | themill | gabedwrds: random 3rd party repos could do anything and, indeed, this is *not* debian. |
| 01:26.56 | MisterE | the software updater ui is just FE for apt-get right? |
| 01:27.20 | themill | MisterE: depends on what they've given you, please ask #kali-linux |
| 01:27.21 | gabedwrds | themill: sure, but the question is about apt. |
| 01:27.31 | themill | gabedwrds: this is #debian not #apt |
| 01:27.45 | gabedwrds | and the correct answer (MisterE) might be found in /var/log/apt |
| 01:27.45 | tharkun_ | gabedwrds: With what compile options and what special patches? ... |
| 01:27.47 | themill | gabedwrds: and it isn't actually a question about apt at all |
| 01:28.07 | gabedwrds | don't be ridiculous. |
| 01:28.26 | gabedwrds | on some level it's just installing a package and making sure it installed correctly |
| 01:28.39 | MisterE | oh that's worth having a look at thanks gabedwrds |
| 01:28.59 | owen1 | gabedwrds: what does it mean 'others aren't used for anything'? if i understand you, it means that in order to make usage of any disk, i have to mount it in the install process? if that is the case, how do i know what mounting point to give each disk? |
| 01:29.07 | petn-randall | gabedwrds: Yeah, but the whole pre/postinst script are provided by said package. And they're not part of Debian, and thus don't have the quality control Debian has. |
| 01:29.12 | MisterE | apt-get has an option -u that shows packages installed but I'n not sure what parameter to use it with to list installed packages? |
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| 01:29.23 | tharkun_ | Anyway no use discussing channel policies. If they are there it should just be respected as a guideline to avoid wondering off. |
| 01:29.32 | owen1 | gabedwrds: in my case, i just want disk #3 and #4 to hold some extra data. |
| 01:29.50 | owen1 | and #2 can be another debian install. as backup |
| 01:30.07 | dondelelcaro | owen1: you only need the drives that you are installing to mounted during the install |
| 01:30.07 | themill | gabedwrds: and it's most probably not using apt-get to do so. You can stop telling us what to do and how to do it now, please. |
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| 01:30.36 | gabedwrds | owen1: since you don't want to do LVM or anything of the sort, I'd mount /home and /usr on the other drives. putting a backup on one of the drives is certainly doable but goes a bit beyond what I can explain on IRC |
| 01:30.55 | dondelelcaro | owen1: but it might be easier to have the installer do it, depending on what you're doing |
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| 01:31.13 | owen1 | dondelelcaro: sure. how do i let the installer do that for me? |
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| 01:31.36 | gabedwrds | themill: it is almost certainly a .deb coming from an apt source |
| 01:31.56 | dondelelcaro | owen1: when it's asking you to configure your drives, you configure them, and have them mounted wherever you want them |
| 01:32.09 | dondelelcaro | owen1: for extraneous data, /srv is often used, but you can use whatever works best for you |
| 01:32.40 | gabedwrds | themill: anyway I don't care much, I just don't like the attitude that gets thrown at newbies. if you don't want to help someone out, just don't say anything. |
| 01:32.52 | themill | gabedwrds: perhaps. But even if it is, it's most likely not using apt-get to do the installation if it's using some updater framework. |
| 01:33.02 | tharkun_ | gabedwrds: Cool. We got your idea now. Please focus on the problem at hand and let it go. |
| 01:33.40 | owen1 | dondelelcaro: cool. now i have 1 on / 2,3,4 on /srv |
| 01:33.41 | themill | gabedwrds: no, pointing the user to a better place to get information is a much better thing than a silent channel just ignoring them because they have asked in the wrong place (or worse, giving them wrong advice because it's for the wrong distro0 |
| 01:33.49 | dondelelcaro | owen1: actually; scratch that. Is there some reason why you're not doing raid or similar across those drives? |
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| 01:34.02 | owen1 | dondelelcaro: i don't know how to manage a raid |
| 01:34.25 | owen1 | and what do do if a drive crashes, so there is no point for me setting it up |
| 01:34.26 | dondelelcaro | owen1: it's pretty easy, and there's no time like the present to learn... |
| 01:34.30 | tharkun_ | dondelelcaro: He's server has been compromised several time and he lacks the knowledge to admin such systems lvm and raid |
| 01:34.42 | owen1 | (: |
| 01:35.19 | owen1 | i am ok to setup raid, but i dont know what do do if one of my drives crashes, or even how do i know that it crashes. |
| 01:35.21 | dondelelcaro | owen1: and there are howtos which explain how to do all of the basic admin tasks |
| 01:35.45 | owen1 | i even have the open source debian book |
| 01:35.52 | dondelelcaro | owen1: it'll tell you in /proc/mdstat; if it's crashed, and there are multiple howtos on replacing failed md devices |
| 01:36.02 | owen1 | http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/ |
| 01:36.06 | tharkun_ | owen1: LVM does makes wonders. A bit of a pain but when used properly it is indeed a powerfull weapon. As form RAID well I allready asked how critical was your server. It is a god send when one of your hdd will fail |
| 01:36.18 | gabedwrds | owen1: I'd suggest LVM too, it's very flexible and worth knowing |
| 01:36.28 | owen1 | gabedwrds: ok. |
| 01:36.34 | owen1 | i am back to raid + lvm |
| 01:36.41 | dondelelcaro | yes, that's what you want. |
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| 01:36.56 | dondelelcaro | learning how to use it all might take a while, but the installer will at least make setting it up easy |
| 01:37.31 | gabedwrds | even if you don't want to learn all the details of LVM you can do what you're already doing with LVM instead of bare partitions, and then you'll have a lot more flexibility if you want to make changes down the road |
| 01:37.34 | owen1 | ok. setting up raid 1 on disk 1 and 2 |
| 01:37.35 | mutante | owen1: when doing LVM, i recommend you do not use the entire disk right away but leave some free "extents" (physical disk space), it comes in very handy if you run of disk later you can extend it to get those few more extra GBs and then have time to fix it for real |
| 01:37.39 | MisterE | guys, I don;t undertsand how to use the apt-get -u option (-u supposed to show all packages installed) |
| 01:38.00 | MisterE | thats what I want to do list everythign apt-get has installed? |
| 01:38.17 | mutante | MisterE: always just used "dpkg -l" for that |
| 01:38.27 | dondelelcaro | !tell MisterE -about installed |
| 01:38.31 | owen1 | mutante: is this the best guide for raid+lvm? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SoftwareRaidRoot |
| 01:38.44 | mutante | owen1: i don't know, but given that it's on debian.org, sounds good |
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| 01:39.04 | MisterE | ok great |
| 01:39.08 | MisterE | thanks again |
| 01:39.10 | petn-randall | gabedwrds: I'm actually quite friendly to newbies on #debian, and I'm willing to help them here, too, if they run Debian. But if something has a different name, it's probably different enough from Debian to warrant it. |
| 01:40.02 | gabedwrds | petn-randall: hey, I agree with that, I just didn't see any sign that it was kali |
| 01:40.03 | MisterE | !tell mistere installed test |
| 01:40.23 | petn-randall | gabedwrds: You won't believe how many Ubuntu folks show up here every day, about some problem that turns out to be Ubuntu-specific. It's tiring and annoying for everyone, which is why we have this policy in the first place. |
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| 01:41.04 | gabedwrds | petn-randall: agreed, I've seen that |
| 01:41.19 | unkmar | as always. the one thing that drives me nuts with linux. Lack of reasonable multi-monitor support. |
| 01:41.29 | petn-randall | MisterE: You can query the bot directly, '/q dpkg', and then just drop the keywords. It's a little quicker :) |
| 01:41.40 | tharkun_ | MisterE: use it at your own risk. YMMV |
| 01:41.51 | petn-randall | unkmar: Works here :) |
| 01:42.31 | unkmar | And how many hoops did you jump through to get there? cause it Worked here too. Until I reinstalled. Now I get to jump through the hoops again. |
| 01:42.52 | mutante | i soooo hope Debian can become an FSF approved distro some day and agreements can be found on the licensing and non/free repos. i'd gladly give up non-free being mentioned in official Debian for that |
| 01:42.55 | unkmar | And it is different every time. |
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| 01:43.25 | mutante | "gnewsense" sigh |
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| 01:43.37 | petn-randall | unkmar: I just plug the monitor in and activate it. But maybe you describe your specific problem so we can fix it. |
| 01:44.03 | petn-randall | mutante: non-free isn't officially part of Debian. |
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| 01:44.36 | mutante | petn-randall: but afaik the FSF also doesn't like that it's even mentioned and pointed to |
| 01:44.37 | unkmar | Argh. No ALWAYS on top. gotta resize some things. :( |
| 01:44.50 | unkmar | oh, there it is. |
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| 01:45.55 | mutante | firefox vs. iceweasel vs. icecat .. this drives me crazy, Mozilla, Debian and FSF should be on the same side and settle this |
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| 01:46.45 | wols_ | mutante: multimon support, firefox. a lot of stuff drives you crazy. maybe you should visit a shrink instead of ranting on #debian? |
| 01:46.50 | tharkun_ | mutante: hmm that is a particularly thorny isue. More ego than license. But then I will not discuss that one in here. Or for the matter on any electronic media |
| 01:46.54 | unkmar | I have 2 GT218 video cards. [GeForce 210] (rev a2) |
| 01:46.55 | petn-randall | mutante: Mozilla and Debian settled this. Debian agreed that, to make their own modifications, the Mozilla products needed to be renamed. That's all. |
| 01:47.15 | mutante | wols_: i didnd't say a word about multimon |
| 01:47.15 | unkmar | one of them has both displays active. and Mirrored. |
| 01:47.16 | tharkun_ | unkmar: NVIDIA? |
| 01:47.17 | gabedwrds | I see the need for iceweasel, I don't know why debian and FSF need to maintain separate clones though |
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| 01:47.29 | themill | mutante: an interesting common thread here is that it's other organisations telling debian what it can and can't do. Perhaps this would be better in #debian-offtopic though? |
| 01:47.29 | unkmar | tharkun_: very good. nVidia. |
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| 01:48.16 | tharkun_ | unkmar: nVidia is a pain in the butt on linux. But it is somewhat manegable yes you need to jump around to have them all work together. But then the other choices don't behave that well either |
| 01:48.55 | unkmar | tharkun_: exactly. ATI doesn't really play any nicer. I've done both. And never at the same time. That would be a nightmare. |
| 01:49.15 | tharkun_ | A grade higher than that ;P |
| 01:49.26 | unkmar | I learned my lesson about mixing video name brands. |
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| 01:50.10 | mutante | those replies are the usual ones, and part of the "sigh", i'll shut up, but i wols_ i don't know who you are mixing me up with, and being told to go to a shrink for one comment line about debian.. thanks and cya later |
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| 01:50.39 | unkmar | Ok. What do I need to do to fix this nasty video setting. The fuzzy type is giving me a headache. |
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| 01:51.12 | tharkun_ | unkmar: first you need the actual resolution of your monitors. That is a great step forward |
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| 01:53.58 | unkmar | and I was hoping to avoid opening a pdf. |
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| 01:54.45 | owen1 | i am setting up raid+lvm, and reached the point in the installer where i am asked to enter the size of the new logical volume. the deafualt is 245912MB. any ideas? |
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| 01:55.06 | vapor | can anyone suggest a terminal emulator? |
| 01:55.17 | vapor | Im using Terminator now...would love to have tabs |
| 01:55.26 | petn-randall | unkmar: This is primarily a support channel. If you need help, ask the actual question. Complaining won't get you far in here. |
| 01:55.43 | unkmar | petn-randall: 1920x1080 |
| 01:55.59 | unkmar | took me a while to find it for certain. |
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| 01:56.35 | petn-randall | unkmar: 2073600 |
| 01:56.45 | zykotick9 | vapor: going a totally different direction, i'd suggest urxvt (aka rxvt-unicode) but that certainly doesn't have tabs, and is VERY different from Terminator (so i highly doubt you'd like it) - but it's the best xorg terminal i'm aware of... YMMV |
| 01:56.59 | unkmar | and it is set to that so... Why so fuzzy? |
| 01:58.00 | vapor | zykotick9: im open to anything |
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| 01:58.14 | vapor | im attempting to go nearly full text/terminal |
| 01:58.45 | zykotick9 | vapor: if that's the case, give urxvt a try |
| 01:59.07 | vapor | let me fire up elinks, brb ;) |
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| 01:59.34 | vapor | actually, the browser will be the only thing I wont go terminal on |
| 01:59.51 | rryoumaa | some window managers, screen and friends, and emacs can all do multiple terminals in a single window |
| 02:00.23 | owen1 | vapor: xterm |
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| 02:00.39 | zykotick9 | owen1: xterm is weak IMO |
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| 02:00.43 | owen1 | zykotick9: why? |
| 02:00.49 | owen1 | i am setting up raid+lvm, and reached the point in the installer where i am asked to enter the size of the new logical volume. the deafualt is 245912MB. any ideas? |
| 02:00.50 | vapor | terminal fight! |
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| 02:01.21 | zykotick9 | owen1: lots of curses rendering issues with it... even alsamixer was often distorted for me YMMV?! |
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| 02:02.25 | rryoumaa | i have not found a terminal that i like anywhere |
| 02:02.30 | rryoumaa | urxvt is ok |
| 02:02.39 | owen1 | what should be the logical volume size of my lvm? |
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| 02:02.58 | samnob | Does urxvt have 256 color support? |
| 02:03.08 | gabedwrds | owen1: for an LVM partition you might as well use the maximum possible |
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| 02:03.42 | gabedwrds | owen1: generally you'd have a small bootable /boot and the rest of your drive(s) are filled up with LVM, and then you create your other partitions inside LVM |
| 02:04.06 | owen1 | gabedwrds: this guide say: In this example, we wont split the filesystem (we won't even bother to create a swap, which is a bad idea), so I use all the disk space. (which again isn't a good idea, since it's so easy ro resize a partition with LVM) |
| 02:04.10 | zykotick9 | samnob: i believe so (not a feature i've used) |
| 02:04.13 | owen1 | so i am scared to continue with the default. |
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| 02:04.24 | owen1 | gabedwrds: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SoftwareRaidRoot |
| 02:04.37 | vapor | owen: what are you setting up? just a personal install? |
| 02:04.43 | owen1 | vapor: yeah |
| 02:05.06 | unkmar | I give. One monitor it is until I have time to WASTE on this. No, I'm not complaining from lack of help. I'm just frustrated trying to figure this mess out, AGAIN! Over and over, endless cycle. |
| 02:05.12 | vapor | just do a root partion, a /home, and a swap |
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| 02:05.27 | unkmar | At least I have a functional system. |
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| 02:05.35 | gabedwrds | vapor: he has 4 drives and we suggested learning to use LVM |
| 02:05.47 | vapor | I think I have a 20gb root, an 8gb swap, the rest is /home |
| 02:05.57 | vapor | oh, i see |
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| 02:06.18 | owen1 | vapor: i am not sure what u mean. i am in the screen where i create logical value and it's asking for it's size. the deafault is 245912MB. |
| 02:06.22 | unkmar | No, I want at least 2 monitors. Fuzzy or not. |
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| 02:06.32 | owen1 | logical volume |
| 02:06.56 | samnob | hmm, apt-cache search rxvt shows a surprising variety, including rxvt-unicode-256color |
| 02:07.48 | gabedwrds | owen1: just checking, how many drives are you using for the RAID1 array? |
| 02:07.52 | gabedwrds | owen1: you might as well use the maximum there, it'll give you one big partition as big as it can be |
| 02:07.53 | owen1 | gabedwrds: 2 |
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| 02:08.08 | gabedwrds | oh ok |
| 02:08.11 | owen1 | gabedwrds: i am ok to use the other 2 as external storage |
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| 02:08.49 | petn-randall | gabedwrds: Actually, with LVM it makes sense *not* to use the maximum possible. That way there's room for snapshotting or new filesystems. |
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| 02:09.14 | gabedwrds | petn-randall: that's true... you can always reduce logical partitions if needed though |
| 02:09.23 | vapor | god that sounds like a headache |
| 02:09.23 | petn-randall | gabedwrds: I'd argue that you might as well take a reasonably small number since you can grow filesystems online, but not shrink them. |
| 02:09.36 | vapor | how often are you really going to be dinking around with your hard drive though? |
| 02:09.58 | vapor | just use two and make the other two externals |
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| 02:10.26 | petn-randall | owen1: vapor gave you quite resonable numbers, I'd stick with them. If some filesystem starts running full, you can make it larger "online". |
| 02:10.48 | unkmar | This is just insane. |
| 02:10.53 | owen1 | i don't know how to set this up. i just picked the entire size which was around 240GB |
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| 02:11.20 | vapor | what kind of data are we talking here? like movies/music? |
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| 02:12.10 | k-man | is it possible to provide /etc/network/interfaces with several wifi networks and have the wifi automatically connect to whichever it is able to connect to? |
| 02:12.15 | owen1 | vapor: the purpose of the server is to run my chat, used as vpn if i am in china and run some small websites. |
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| 02:12.50 | petn-randall | k-man: The more flexible way would be network-manager, especially for a desktop/laptop. |
| 02:13.11 | abrotman | or wicd or wifi-radar |
| 02:13.40 | k-man | petn-randall, its for an olimex micro pc thing, i don't really feel like setting up X on it. doesn't network-manager require X? |
| 02:13.51 | petn-randall | k-man: However, if you want to do it with the "old school" ifupdown method, you could try the package 'guessnet'. |
| 02:13.55 | abrotman | k-man: no, there's a CLI client |
| 02:14.01 | petn-randall | k-man: n-m doesn't require X. |
| 02:14.03 | abrotman | (or was anyway) |
| 02:14.03 | k-man | abrotman, ah ok |
| 02:14.09 | unkmar | gotta stop by X. be back eventually. |
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| 02:15.52 | vapor | i have kind of a noob question...from time to time, I get this when downloading via apt : unable to lock the admin diretory(/var/lib/dpkg/) |
| 02:16.14 | petn-randall | vapor: Either there is already apt running, or you're not root. |
| 02:16.15 | vapor | i have no idea what causes that...im not interrupting any processes that i know of |
| 02:16.45 | vapor | all i did this time was an apt-cache sear for rvxt |
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| 02:17.13 | samnob | some apt update script in cron? |
| 02:17.19 | unkmar | well, the screen is clear. Now that I'm at a terminal |
| 02:17.22 | owen1 | here is my raid+lvm setup - http://i.imgur.com/X4qzgBa.jpg is this ok? also, what do i setup my 3rd and 4th drives? |
| 02:17.36 | petn-randall | vapor: unattended-upgrade? Some cron job updating the list? |
| 02:17.43 | vapor | no |
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| 02:18.14 | petn-randall | vapor: Next time it happens, quickly type 'ps auxw|grep apt', and you'll see what's running it. |
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| 02:19.26 | gabedwrds | owen1: I think that looks reasonable enough. to keep things simple I think I'd just not touch #3 and #4 at first. when you need some space you can set up LVM on those too. |
| 02:19.57 | vapor | synaptic? |
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| 02:21.41 | owen1 | gabedwrds: cool. so click on the drive itself (#3) and say 'no' for create new empty partition? |
| 02:21.45 | petn-randall | gabedwrds, owen1: LVM and hotpluggable drives don't mix together that well. At least not with most file managers. I avoid it if I can. |
| 02:22.28 | owen1 | petn-randall: i don't know what hotpluggable drives, but i'll be happy to disable them if you are willing to guide me how. |
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| 02:22.52 | gabedwrds | what kind of drives are they specifically? I know "external storage" was mentioned but I had the impression they were all plain internal drives |
| 02:23.34 | owen1 | gabedwrds: yup. all internal |
| 02:23.44 | owen1 | there are 4 total drives in this hp micro server |
| 02:24.44 | gabedwrds | looks fine as it is then |
| 02:25.08 | gabedwrds | depending on what you eventually want to put on the drives, you could use the ext3 partitions made by the installer or you could set up LVM. either way. |
| 02:25.13 | owen1 | gabedwrds: wait, keep the #3 and #4 as the picture? |
| 02:25.16 | owen1 | http://i.imgur.com/X4qzgBa.jpg |
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| 02:25.38 | gabedwrds | ext4* pardon me |
| 02:26.00 | gabedwrds | yeah, if there's not any immediate need for them, I say just ignore them for now so you can get the system up and running |
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| 02:26.36 | owen1 | i don't know what 'ignore them' means. right now there in F and B next to them. B mean bootable. |
| 02:26.39 | owen1 | gabedwrds: ^ |
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| 02:27.03 | gabedwrds | owen1: sounds good. the B is just a flag, having it set for those doesn't affect anything |
| 02:27.12 | owen1 | gabedwrds: ok. thanks |
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| 02:27.35 | gabedwrds | hm... can GRUB boot an LVM volume on top of soft RAID? |
| 02:27.44 | owen1 | 'NO ROOT FILE SYSTEM IS DEFINED' |
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| 02:28.16 | owen1 | how do i define root file system? |
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| 02:28.20 | gabedwrds | yeeeah, uh, crap, I'm surprised the installer doesn't automate more of this |
| 02:28.40 | gabedwrds | two problems: the big one is that your 245.9GB logical volume isn't selected to be mounted as / |
| 02:29.04 | gabedwrds | I *think* that in order for the system to be bootable you might need a /boot partition outside of LVM, unless that's changed recently |
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| 02:29.21 | gabedwrds | honestly at this point I'm going to step away and have a beer, because I'm not of much use |
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| 02:29.31 | owen1 | (: |
| 02:29.36 | owen1 | no problem |
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| 02:30.01 | owen1 | anyone with lvm/raid knowledge can help? i see 'NO ROOT FILE SYSTEM IS DEFINED' - http://i.imgur.com/X4qzgBa.jpg |
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| 02:31.36 | unkmar | well, that helps. The fuzzy is the terminal software. |
| 02:31.47 | unkmar | back to my favorite, xterm! |
| 02:31.57 | owen1 | unkmar: +1 for xterm |
| 02:32.25 | unkmar | owen1: -x for LXterminal |
| 02:32.28 | unkmar | uh, -1 |
| 02:32.39 | dvs | x=1 |
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| 02:38.16 | AlexLikeRock | why say that ??----> * Cannot join #debian-next (Channel is invite only). |
| 02:38.18 | MisterE | ok I see in /var/log/apt/ Start-Date: 2013-12-09 23:03:33 Upgrade: metasploit-framework:i386 (4.7.0-2013082802-1kali0, 4.8.1-2013120401-1kali0), metasploit:i386 (4.7.0-2013082802-1kali0, 4.8.1-2013120401-1kali0) End-Date: 2013-12-09 23:04:16 |
| 02:38.31 | AlexLikeRock | debian must be a OPEN |
| 02:38.35 | themill | AlexLikeRock: it's still over on irc.oftc.net |
| 02:38.38 | MisterE | so upgrade must have completed OK and the UI jst hung refreshing the package list |
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| 02:39.59 | AlexLikeRock | themill, why closed on freenode ? |
| 02:40.15 | abrotman | because, it's not supposed to be there |
| 02:40.18 | AlexLikeRock | and #debian-mx are closed too on freenode |
| 02:40.32 | abrotman | so go to irc.oftc.net |
| 02:40.43 | themill | abrotman: because those channels are on irc.oftc.net |
| 02:40.56 | abrotman | they are indeed |
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| 02:41.11 | themill | bleh |
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| 02:42.40 | AlexLikeRock | themill, you can tell me because.... |
| 02:42.44 | AlexLikeRock | ? |
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| 02:43.09 | morsonai | what gcc version is standard in wheezy? |
| 02:43.18 | morsonai | someone give me the output of gcc --version |
| 02:43.20 | themill | ,v gcc --release wheezy |
| 02:43.21 | judd | Package: gcc on i386 -- wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1 |
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| 02:45.07 | owen1 | anyone with lvm/raid knowledge can help? i see 'NO ROOT FILE SYSTEM IS DEFINED' - http://i.imgur.com/X4qzgBa.jpg |
| 02:45.10 | MisterE | what is the best command to use to get rid of the archived apt package files, clean or autoclean? |
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| 02:45.20 | themill | MisterE: #kali-linux |
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| 02:45.38 | MisterE | what does that have to do with anything distro specific? |
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| 02:45.57 | MisterE | clean and autoclean surely work the same on every distro based on a deb kernel? |
| 02:46.06 | themill | MisterE: then feel free to read man apt-get yourself. You aren't using debian so #debian is the wrong place to ask. |
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| 02:46.46 | MisterE | if I never told you it was kali you would answer and give me the correct answer |
| 02:46.48 | MisterE | sheesh |
| 02:47.02 | MisterE | in less keystrokes that it took to tell me to go to #kali |
| 02:47.04 | themill | MisterE: that doesn't make it right for you to be asking in the wrong channel |
| 02:47.16 | MisterE | which I already am there nobody alive though and it's a very simple q |
| 02:47.29 | laigualdad | hi, i'm installing debian for a desktop computer with a non-free Intel internal wireless card. i think putting the non-free wireless firmware on my usb apparently didn't help me locate the proper firmware for my wireless card. when i used the wizard to search for firmware from my removable device (my usb, which is separate from the DVD i'm booting from), i kept getting the same "firmware not found" message. it's missing iwlfifi-5000-1, |
| 02:47.30 | laigualdad | iwlfifi-5000-2, iwlfifi-5000-3, iwlfifi-5000-4, and iwlfifi-5000-5. |
| 02:47.35 | themill | MisterE: so perhaps you should factor the availability of support into your selection of distribution. |
| 02:47.49 | MisterE | touche |
| 02:48.02 | MisterE | you just enjoy being condescending |
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| 02:48.09 | abrotman | dpkg: tell laigualdad about firmware installer |
| 02:49.13 | laigualdad | abrotman: can it tell me anything i don't already know? |
| 02:49.22 | laigualdad | that is to say, i have the firmware on my usb. |
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| 02:50.03 | laigualdad | maybe it just means my sort of firmware isn't included |
| 02:50.04 | laigualdad | i'm not sure |
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| 02:51.32 | dvs | laigualdad: Have you tried http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ |
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| 02:51.52 | laigualdad | "To prepare a USB stick (or other medium like a hard drive partition, or floppy disk), the firmware files or packages must be placed in either the root directory or a directory named /firmware of the file system on the medium. The recommended file system to use is FAT as that is most certain to be supported during the early stages of the installation. " |
| 02:51.52 | laigualdad | oh let me try that xD |
| 02:51.53 | laigualdad | BRB |
| 02:52.01 | themill | laigualdad: does the usb device have partitions etc too? |
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| 02:53.25 | laigualdad | it's just one partition yes |
| 02:53.44 | laigualdad | i'll go back and change the directory name and see if that fixes it! |
| 02:53.48 | laigualdad | brb |
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| 02:55.24 | Yoshi1 | how do i add someone to a group? |
| 02:55.33 | reisio | Yoshi1: gpasswd |
| 02:55.58 | themill | Yoshi1: adduser username groupname |
| 02:56.01 | owen1 | anyone with lvm/raid knowledge can help? i see 'NO ROOT FILE SYSTEM IS DEFINED' - http://i.imgur.com/X4qzgBa.jpg |
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| 02:56.23 | Yoshi1 | i was certain there was a gui programme for thar i just cant tremember what it was called *sighs* |
| 02:56.32 | reisio | Yoshi1: oh there is |
| 02:56.41 | reisio | there are probably dozens |
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| 02:58.12 | abrotman | it'll take far less time to use adduser :) |
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| 02:58.38 | Yoshi1 | abrotman: yeah but i am not sure what group i have to add myself to to use primus |
| 02:58.43 | reisio | and even less to gpasswd, i bet |
| 02:58.47 | Yoshi1 | so i need to be able to browse the groups to find out |
| 02:58.56 | abrotman | cat /etc/groups |
| 02:59.02 | reisio | less :) |
| 02:59.23 | Yoshi1 | cat /etc/groups |
| 02:59.23 | Yoshi1 | cat: /etc/groups: No such file or directory |
| 02:59.27 | Yoshi1 | care to try again |
| 02:59.28 | reisio | group |
| 02:59.34 | reisio | use TAB completion |
| 02:59.38 | abrotman | sorry, /etc/group |
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| 03:02.02 | Yoshi1 | gah that didnt work grrr i never should have buggered around trying to add the nvidia stuff when nouveau was working now stuff is all buggered |
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| 03:02.30 | thvle | Hello guys, I want mount the /tmp, /var/tmp, /usr/tmp and /var/log in RAM (tmpfs), but I have 8 GB RAM. Is enough? |
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| 03:02.46 | reisio | it's enough as long as it is |
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| 03:03.16 | abrotman | thvle: no one can answer that for you |
| 03:04.24 | thvle | abrotman: But you could say if normally with 8GB enough, or certainly I need more RAM. |
| 03:04.40 | abrotman | thvle: i have systems where 8GB isn't enough for /var/log/ |
| 03:04.47 | abrotman | let alone the rest |
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| 03:05.33 | reisio | Yoshi1: here you are |
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| 03:06.38 | thvle | abrotman: Then I could mount on the HDD, butt I can mount all in one HDD partition? ( /tmp, /var/tmp, /usr/tmp and /var/log ) |
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| 03:07.36 | Yoshi1 | going to purge primus and reboot |
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| 03:07.39 | Yoshi1 | brb i hope |
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| 03:08.28 | acu2 | OK - why Atlanta Georgia is so IT dense ? |
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| 03:08.54 | themill | acu2: wrong channel? |
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| 03:09.52 | acu2 | themill :) I thought a lot of people here might be doing jobs there :) |
| 03:10.22 | acu2 | themill: are you in UK ? |
| 03:10.27 | abrotman | .. |
| 03:10.37 | acu2 | abrotman is Midwestern :) |
| 03:10.40 | abrotman | no |
| 03:10.54 | dvs | OT? |
| 03:11.04 | acu2 | not anymore ? - got to warmer space |
| 03:11.19 | acu2 | dvs: indeed Operating Theatre :) |
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| 03:12.06 | dvs | watches out for the sneak attack ban. |
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| 03:13.45 | laigualdad | back |
| 03:14.00 | reisio | wb |
| 03:14.09 | dvs | uh oh |
| 03:14.59 | Yoshi1 | back |
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| 03:17.06 | laigualdad | ok... my firmware is not included in the tarball but i found where i can download it. http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/firmware-iwlwifi/download i'd like to download it onto my usb somehow, so i can load it up during installation... but it's in a package. tldr, how can i get it onto my usb stick? |
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| 03:17.39 | themill | laigualdad: I'm not sure what your question really is here |
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| 03:18.11 | reisio | laigualdad: copy it on? :) |
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| 03:18.36 | laigualdad | copy the .deb file onto the usb? that'll work? |
| 03:18.41 | themill | yes |
| 03:18.46 | laigualdad | okay! :D |
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| 03:18.57 | dvs | really? |
| 03:19.05 | dvs | never knew that. |
| 03:19.09 | owen1 | hib |
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| 03:19.19 | laigualdad | if i come back you'll know why |
| 03:19.20 | laigualdad | lolol |
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| 03:19.22 | sivik | is there a way to install amdcccle in debian wheezy? I don't see it in any of the repos |
| 03:19.27 | laigualdad | cheers |
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| 03:22.37 | sivik | anyone know what repos the amdcccle program is located? |
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| 03:23.50 | themill | dpkg: tell sivik about non-free sources |
| 03:23.54 | reisio | what a well named program :p |
| 03:24.34 | reisio | http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=amdcccle&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
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| 03:24.42 | reisio | which means apt-file would tell you |
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| 03:29.50 | sivik | apt-file command not found. What is apt-file? |
| 03:29.50 | wols | use apt-cache search to find out |
| 03:29.51 | sivik | that fglrx-amdcccle doesn't work with the legacy drivers i'm having to use since I have an radeon 4650 |
| 03:29.51 | wols | reisio: it would only tell if non-free is in his sources already. which it obviously is not |
| 03:29.51 | sivik | non-free is already in my repos |
| 03:29.51 | sivik | and I can find that fglrx-control |
| 03:29.51 | sivik | but that fglrx-control doesn't work with the legacy drivers |
| 03:29.52 | sivik | probably going to try and install manually to see what happens. |
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| 03:30.56 | sivik | how is that flooding? |
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| 03:31.17 | themill | perhaps avoid using enter as punctuation |
| 03:31.20 | dvs | sivik: More than 3 lines in rapid succession |
| 03:31.28 | sivik | what is considered rapid succession? |
| 03:31.39 | sivik | that was 3 lines over at least 30 seconds. |
| 03:32.01 | dvs | sivik: Not from this side. |
| 03:32.06 | sivik | oh |
| 03:32.20 | sivik | that is kinda retarded but whatever |
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| 03:37.07 | meder_ | soo, i tried to restart iptables on my vps and accidentally did /etc/init.d/networking restart.. the last line is a DHCPRELEASE line but i can't ssh or access my server in any other instance |
| 03:37.11 | meder_ | how can i resolve this? |
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| 03:39.08 | mo1991_ | sivik - fglrx-control is in non-free if you are using wheezy. aka stable. just checked. |
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| 03:39.57 | reisio | wols: silly app! :) |
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| 03:50.26 | unkmar | attempting to setup using noveau is a joke |
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| 04:19.36 | klys | ~slashdot |
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| 04:27.44 | abrotman | feel free to msg the bot |
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| 04:28.20 | klys | apologies, usu. do that in diff. chan. |
| 04:29.37 | wizkid057 | Hi everyone :) I'm going nuts here.... I have a new netbook (came preloaded with windows 8) that I want to wipe and install debian on. It has no ethernet jack (no netboot) and no cdrom, only usb. It also seems to have a UEFI only setup, but I've disabled Secure Boot. However, I can not get it to boot into the debian wheezy installer for the life of me. Any ideas? |
| 04:29.54 | wizkid057 | I dont care about win8... i want to wipe and install debian |
| 04:30.07 | klys | try qemu |
| 04:31.14 | klys | and if you can resize it down with windows' computer management tool on the tail end, then install to ext2 there, you should be able to resize using gparted and restore windows' boot with qemu on the windows .iso file. |
| 04:31.35 | themill | wizkid057: how are you making the installer? |
| 04:31.51 | wizkid057 | themill: dd if=install.iso of=/dev/usbstickdev |
| 04:32.29 | wols | wizkid057: enable CSM |
| 04:32.37 | wizkid057 | wols: no option to do so |
| 04:32.41 | klys | it seems unlikely to me that the .iso bootrecord would use /dev/sda as the bios detects to boot el torito. |
| 04:33.00 | themill | wizkid057: and the machine doesn't understand usb boot? or needs prodding to boot from usb? or starts to boot but falls over? |
| 04:33.34 | wizkid057 | themill: not really sure... it recognizes the device, but doesnt seem to recognize it as bootable |
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| 04:33.44 | wizkid057 | I tested in a different machine and it pulls up the installer |
| 04:33.57 | wizkid057 | on this netbook it just always jumps past and heads to windows |
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| 04:35.22 | themill | isn't there some sort of fastboot thing that windows 8 has that you need to install so that you actually go right back to a firmware/boot menu? |
| 04:35.38 | themill | speaks from a position of complete ignorance on windows |
| 04:35.51 | wizkid057 | themill: no idea... i've never messed with win8 |
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| 04:38.07 | wizkid057 | I managed to pull up some windows-based boot menu that let me choose to boot from a CD or USB... but it didnt work either |
| 04:38.19 | wizkid057 | I tried a USB cdrom with debian 7 on the disc, no luck there either |
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| 04:42.24 | jfmamjjasond | Why are there so many ISOs for Debian? http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.2.0/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 04:42.54 | jfmamjjasond | Is it CD 1 enough to install the OS and be ready to use it? |
| 04:43.12 | ctmjr | yes |
| 04:43.23 | jfmamjjasond | i am on a very shaky internet access speed |
| 04:43.39 | jfmamjjasond | oh ok.. thanks @ctmjr |
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| 04:44.31 | jfmamjjasond | @ctmjr what's in the other CDs? updates all of them ? |
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| 04:47.19 | rryoumaa | jfmamjjasond: the usual advice is to use the netinst |
| 04:47.51 | themill | jfmamjjasond: there are 37k packages in debian. The first CD contains a few of them to install the most commonly installed things. If you're worried your internet connection might drop out in the middle of installing, then grab DVD1 instead |
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| 04:48.23 | jerry669 | http://hotgirlsinyogapantss.blogspot.com/2013/12/pulling-them-up.html |
| 04:49.10 | rryoumaa | i can't believe people spam irc. they get like 1 click if they are lucky. why is that worth it to them? |
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| 04:57.57 | nimtz | can someone explain to me why top is reporting much higher mem usage than htop/sysmon |
| 04:58.13 | nimtz | like 330mb vs 90mb |
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| 05:00.25 | wols | nimtz: different way of counting maybe. virt vs. res |
| 05:02.12 | nimtz | oh, probably |
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| 05:38.45 | christian | better to install bumblebee with nouveau or nvidia drivers? |
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| 05:46.08 | krz | how do i know if nouvea drivers are already installed? |
| 05:46.11 | krz | how can i check this? |
| 05:47.10 | local | anyone in here who can help and explain to me how I can encrypt the swapfile which is used by dphys-swapfile upon system boot? I googled a lot but did not find any suitable solution yet :( |
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| 05:51.40 | krz | ;anyone? |
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| 05:56.13 | fprophet | I have a vps that runs debian 7 and want to give my friend access to a folder out side of his home. how can I do that? |
| 05:57.10 | themill | fprophet: what sort of access? read? write? over what protocols? |
| 05:57.26 | fprophet | read write over ftp or ssh |
| 05:57.49 | krz | i do sudo apt-get install -t wheezy-backports bumblebee primus and get: |
| 05:57.58 | krz | E: The value 'wheezy-backports' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
| 05:58.04 | krz | anyone know why? |
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| 05:58.42 | themill | fprophet: so putting all the users you want to give write access into a new group and putting all those files in that group (probably making the directory g+s too) will allow that for you. |
| 05:58.53 | themill | fprophet: (also, skip ftp, use sftp instead) |
| 05:59.25 | themill | krz: did you add a line for backports to your sources.list? |
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| 05:59.43 | krz | no themill |
| 05:59.49 | themill | dpkg: tell krz about wheezy-backports |
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| 06:01.18 | fprophet | themill: can I just do chown username /path/folder |
| 06:02.56 | themill | fprophet: sure, if there's only one user you want to give access to that directory, you don't even need to worry about the group. (I'm assuming this is /var/www or /srv/example.com or similiar( |
| 06:03.10 | fprophet | themill: yes. just one user |
| 06:04.38 | krz | themill: im trying to install bumblebee. should i install from the backports or from the official repo? |
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| 06:04.42 | krz | https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 06:04.58 | krz | im on wheezy. does that mean I HAVE to install from backports? |
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| 06:06.36 | themill | yes |
| 06:09.14 | krz | themill: just to be sure i should add eb http://YOURMIRROR.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 06:09.21 | krz | eb=deb |
| 06:09.40 | themill | what dpkg said |
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| 06:12.36 | krz | themill: weird. http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ says to put it in /etc/apt/sourceslist.d/sources.list |
| 06:13.42 | themill | krz: I'm not sure what bit you're finding weird. |
| 06:14.00 | krz | dpkg says to put it in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:14.01 | dpkg | i don't know, krz |
| 06:14.24 | krz | the debian site says to put it in /etc/apt/sourceslist.d/sources.list |
| 06:14.45 | themill | krz: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ doesn't say that at all |
| 06:15.44 | krz | to your sources.list (or add a new file with the ".list" extension to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/) |
| 06:16.02 | themill | right. That's not what you said at all. |
| 06:16.06 | krz | kk |
| 06:16.10 | themill | (even ignoring the typos) |
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| 06:16.19 | krz | my mistake |
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| 06:18.45 | krz | themill: find to use deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian instead of http://http.debian.net/debian ? |
| 06:18.50 | krz | find=fine |
| 06:19.31 | themill | http.debian.net works better than cdn.debian.net. There's usually a reason why instructions say the things they do. |
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| 06:20.46 | jb82 | hi everyone, I have a Dell Inspiron 15R 5110, I just installed Debian 7.2 and I can't get my wireless to be working. Anyone can help me please? |
| 06:21.14 | klys | apt-get install wpasupplicant |
| 06:22.17 | krz | themill: http://pastie.org/8541390 which one |
| 06:22.26 | jb82 | klys : 0 installed 0 updated... |
| 06:22.40 | klys | if you can't find it on installation media, grab the file and dpkg -i wpasupplicant_*.deb |
| 06:22.51 | klys | http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 06:23.16 | themill | krz: lines 3 and 8 are identical. |
| 06:23.18 | klys | if you already have it installed, do # iwlist wlan0 scanning |
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| 06:23.41 | krz | themill: i mean. should i have two lines or one line? |
| 06:23.52 | jb82 | interface doesn't support scanning |
| 06:24.04 | themill | krz: what does line 2 do that line 3 doesn't? |
| 06:24.27 | krz | themill: line 3 has contrib and non-free |
| 06:24.43 | themill | that's the opposite question |
| 06:24.50 | krz | bumblebee says to add contrib and non-free https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 06:25.26 | klys | jb82 it seems like I had that problem at one time, though I don't anymore. browse around for answers to that error message. |
| 06:25.26 | krz | Bumblebee packages are available from wheezy-backports. Follow the steps listed on that page to add backports to your sources.list (but make sure that you also add wheezy-backports' contrib repository as well to your sources.list, e.g. deb http://YOURMIRROR.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free) |
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| 06:25.49 | krz | dpkg says to add deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main |
| 06:25.49 | dpkg | krz: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 06:26.01 | themill | krz: yes |
| 06:26.18 | krz | should i add a second line in sources.list deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free |
| 06:26.37 | krz | or do i just add in the keywords contrib non-free? |
| 06:26.41 | themill | you don't need a second line. What does line 3 do that line 2 is not doing already? |
| 06:27.00 | krz | ok good. just wanted to make sure of this |
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| 06:37.12 | krz | themill: kk, so installed bumblebee for nouveau. how do i know it turned the discrete vid card off? |
| 06:37.20 | krz | im assuming i need a reboot first |
| 06:37.43 | krz | if so, what do i need to do after to verify that the discrete nvidia card is switched off? |
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| 06:44.59 | krz | just rebooted |
| 06:45.10 | krz | well fans seem to be spinning much less |
| 06:45.31 | krz | but still not the right way to verify completely that bumblebee has switch discrete vid card off |
| 06:45.35 | krz | anyone know? |
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| 07:14.43 | owen1 | anyone with lvm/raid knowledge can help? i see 'NO ROOT FILE SYSTEM IS DEFINED' - http://i.imgur.com/X4qzgBa.jpg |
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| 07:15.40 | jennie_ | hi |
| 07:16.53 | klys | hi jennie |
| 07:17.17 | jennie | hi klys how are you ? |
| 07:17.35 | klys | placid |
| 07:18.22 | jennie | I am installing latest debian |
| 07:18.31 | jennie | I need help in installing drivers please |
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| 07:19.54 | themill | jennie: drivers for what? |
| 07:20.07 | klys | you should take a look at building the kernel in my opinion. official help says to use debian kernels and look in lsmod output and /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers |
| 07:20.33 | jennie | drivers for my GFX card and my printer http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux+x86 http://support-in.canon-asia.com/contents/IN/EN/0100459601.html |
| 07:21.24 | themill | klys: building a kernel? no. |
| 07:21.58 | themill | jennie: fglrx is already in debian and if the version in the archive supports your hardware then that's the best way to go. |
| 07:22.19 | themill | dpkg: tell jennie about fglrx dkms |
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| 07:23.03 | jennie | and what about printer ? |
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| 07:23.40 | rryoumaa | hmm, i am finding that ionice rsync actually slows down the system more than rysnc. maybe i should do ionice nice or something. |
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| 07:24.06 | themill | jennie: installing cups and the printer-driver-cjet package should be sufficient for that one |
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| 07:32.17 | jennie | okay |
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| 07:33.39 | jennie | the installer is asking that 'install the GRUB boot loader on hard disk ' and asking that 'it seems that this new installation is only operation system on this computer'……… it is asking 'install the GRUB boot loader to the master boot record' ? YES or NO ? |
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| 07:34.40 | grep0r | there aren't any other Operating Sytems on your computer jennie ? |
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| 07:35.14 | jennie | there are but not in this hard disk in which I am installing DEbian |
| 07:35.35 | jennie | there is WIndows 7 in 40GB hDD but this is different hDD in same computer of 2TB |
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| 07:37.05 | grep0r | Well you can install it on the hdd that are windows too if you want, you will not lost windows |
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| 07:37.16 | krz | thats odd |
| 07:37.29 | jennie | I can not because 40GB HDD is completely full |
| 07:37.39 | jennie | so I am installing it in different 2tb hdd |
| 07:37.49 | krz | i have some colors and fontface defined in ~/.Xresources. in i3 when i do mod+enter, the background looks right but the font isnt! |
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| 07:39.03 | somes | hi guys! i had skype working before, but with flip webcam, i tried to resolve it by executting in console "echo -e '#!/bin/bash \n LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so /usr/lib/bin/skype' | sudo tee /usr/lib/bin/skype" but after this i cant run skype at all - "ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l1compat.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.". I tried to remove LD_PRELOAD from /usr/bin/skype, but it didnt |
| 07:39.04 | somes | help. Can you please advice with this, how can i remove LD_PRELOAD set? I tried to reboot machine and xserver, but didnt help, seems like config saved somewhere |
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| 07:39.34 | krz | however if i open a terminal inside a terminal (i.e. type xterm, in the terminal) a new terminal is opened and the fontface is correct |
| 07:39.34 | krz | whats up with that? |
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| 07:46.32 | superuser_ir | http://serverfault.com/questions/558377/saslauthd-multi-instance-for-postfix-smtp-authentication |
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| 07:50.49 | Guest22543 | anyone? |
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| 07:52.36 | wols | ec|ipse: it gets rewritten when you get a new DHCP lease |
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| 08:02.28 | krzkrzkrz | ah got it! |
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| 08:11.38 | antithesis_ | Hello |
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| 08:12.22 | antithesis_ | Whenever I try to install something with apt-get, it always ends with this error: http://p.pomf.se/2252 |
| 08:12.26 | antithesis_ | Does anyone know how to fix it? |
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| 08:15.34 | wsky | antithesis_: use a public pastebin |
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| 08:16.13 | antithesis_ | wsky you can't access that page? |
| 08:16.21 | wsky | i do not want to |
| 08:16.43 | antithesis_ | wsky why not? |
| 08:17.04 | wsky | this has nothing to do with this channel |
| 08:17.37 | antithesis_ | Recommend me a good pastebin then. pastebin.org sometimes deletes my stuff without reason |
| 08:17.50 | wsky | not within minutes |
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| 08:18.39 | Togusa | antithesis_: pasteall.org |
| 08:18.46 | wsky | paste.debian.net works |
| 08:20.11 | antithesis_ | thanks Togusa |
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| 08:20.16 | antithesis_ | So it looks like man-db is broken. http://www.pasteall.org/47930 |
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| 08:20.56 | antithesis_ | Would it be save to purge it and then reinstall it? |
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| 08:27.38 | jelly-home | antithesis_: it's probably smarter to figure out where the postinst script fails and fix that |
| 08:28.18 | jelly-home | antithesis_: which debian release is this? |
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| 08:28.47 | antithesis_ | jelly-home testing |
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| 08:30.36 | antithesis_ | jelly-home how do I check that? |
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| 08:34.56 | jelly-home | antithesis_: add a set -x line at the beginning of /var/lib/dpkg/info/man-db.postinst, run dpkg --configure man-db again, see what the last command(s) are |
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| 08:38.22 | antithesis_ | jelly-home http://www.pasteall.org/47931 |
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| 08:40.13 | psycheye | Hi all :-) |
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| 08:41.53 | Guest99858 | what does one need to do to have 256 colors in terminal? |
| 08:42.28 | novakitty | i think something goes in your .bashrc file |
| 08:42.39 | novakitty | you mean colors for ls and stuff? |
| 08:42.56 | Guest99858 | colors for everything including PS1 |
| 08:43.07 | Guest99858 | right now i think the colors are 16 |
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| 08:47.17 | Guest99858 | ah XTerm*termName: xterm-256color in .Xresources |
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| 08:49.48 | novakitty | guest99858: I found this...dont know how helpful it is http://www.robmeerman.co.uk/unix/256colours |
| 08:50.57 | Guest99858 | novakitty: was looking at http://blog.sanctum.geek.nz/term-strings/ |
| 08:51.00 | Guest99858 | it works now |
| 08:51.34 | krz | brb |
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| 08:52.58 | TheJHNZ | hey i want to remove all the packages i installed, i dont have physical access but i have ssh |
| 08:53.04 | novakitty | can anyone tell me why i cant ping any hostnames from my samba WINS server, yet smblookup works great on it and any other WINS client. I can ping hostnames on any client as well...just not on the server..seems odd. |
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| 08:54.14 | novakitty | when you say all packages..is it alot? |
| 08:54.29 | novakitty | do you know the names off the top of your head? |
| 08:54.38 | TheJHNZ | novakitty: http://joshua.geek.nz/s/DERP12-10-21-54-35.png |
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| 08:55.46 | TheJHNZ | uhmm |
| 08:55.47 | TheJHNZ | not sure |
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| 08:55.54 | novakitty | sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename packagename packagename packagename |
| 08:56.16 | novakitty | or jsut sudo apt-get remove packagename packagename |
| 08:56.26 | novakitty | where packagename is each name |
| 08:56.45 | novakitty | purge should remove config files too |
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| 08:56.58 | TheJHNZ | i dont have all the package names |
| 08:56.58 | TheJHNZ | :S |
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| 08:57.32 | TheJHNZ | is there something to restore debian back to default |
| 08:57.33 | novakitty | is it too late to scroll up in putty? |
| 08:57.41 | TheJHNZ | uhmm |
| 08:57.52 | TheJHNZ | well this install is quite old |
| 08:57.55 | TheJHNZ | and i want to reuse it |
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| 08:58.35 | novakitty | theres a way to get a log of the most recently installed packages...i dont recall it off the top of my head |
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| 08:59.17 | novakitty | and the only way i know to remove them is to tediously type each package name...or do some cutting in a text file and copy that |
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| 09:00.23 | novakitty | it is: cat /var/log/dpkg.log | grep "\ install\ " |
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| 09:01.12 | novakitty | you should be able to pipe it once more to a text file, then edit the text file so you have a list you can copy and paste into the apt-get remove command |
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| 09:02.26 | grep0r_ | novakitty, those are installed? list of packages? #dpkg -l (or --list) |
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| 09:03.06 | novakitty | it should list the most recently installed packages with a date |
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| 09:17.40 | voxadam | I'm trying to share my video library on my Windows 8 box. When I look at the network places (or whatever it's call in 8) I see that //Drogon/videos is indeed shared with "eveyone" and "guest" having read access. The thing is when I try to mount the share in my Linux VM I get a permission denied error, but when I specify my username and password for the W8 machine it mounts fine. |
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| 09:18.37 | ChrisH | voxadam: and what is your question now? |
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| 09:19.27 | voxadam | I'm hoping someone knows enough about Windows shares to figure out why guest access is denied. |
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| 09:23.42 | ChrisH | voxadam: show us the smbclient -N -L WindowsHost ; and the mount command you tested. use paste.debian.net please. |
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| 09:27.24 | CissWit | voxadam: normally, something like mount -t cifs //Drogonip/videos /path/to/mount/point -o guest |
| 09:27.28 | CissWit | should work |
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| 09:28.07 | voxadam | Ugh... I can't copy and paste from vbox and for some reason my ssh server keeps timing out. |
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| 09:29.16 | krz | i get this annoying pc beap. dont know what i did. guessing it was via some package |
| 09:29.24 | krz | anyone experience this before? |
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| 09:32.33 | nosklo | krz: maybe you messed with terminal configuration? |
| 09:33.12 | voxadam | ChrisH: http://pastebin.com/gT0Wfc0G http://pastebin.com/nYUUxHaU |
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| 09:35.33 | voxadam | I disabled password protected sharing in Windows and now it mounts. It's not secure but it'll be fine for the night. |
| 09:36.18 | krz | nosklo: well the beap happens expectedly. like when i try to move the cursor to the left when its already on the left most side |
| 09:36.29 | krz | i think these are just "event" beeps |
| 09:36.34 | krz | but wasnt there before though |
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| 09:41.37 | nosklo | krz: is the cursor in a terminal window? |
| 09:41.52 | nosklo | or in graphical editor? |
| 09:42.17 | krz | terminal nosklo |
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| 09:44.04 | krz | like for example.. if i am in vim.. i press esc 2times. it beeps on the 2nd time |
| 09:44.29 | krz | if im already in command mode. and press esc, it beeps |
| 09:44.42 | ChrisH | voxadam: given the first paste (BTW, I asked to use paste.debian.net) I do not see the video share. So check on the windows side to export video to anonymous (wor however this is named on windows) |
| 09:44.54 | krz | liek the laptop is telling me, you cant esc anymore |
| 09:45.23 | Penix | krz: rmmod pcspkr |
| 09:45.32 | voxadam | ChrisH: Notice "Error returning browse list: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED" |
| 09:45.55 | voxadam | ChrisH: I found a setting in Windows that when disabled allowed guest users to access public folders. |
| 09:46.07 | voxadam | Now it mounts fine. |
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| 09:46.21 | voxadam | I adjusted the permissions so the guest can only read |
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| 09:46.49 | ChrisH | voxadam: fine. I had similar issues with a win7 box yesterday from which I wanted to smb-mount data to backup them using amanda |
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| 09:47.16 | nosklo | krz: xset -b |
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| 09:47.49 | krz | Penix: rmmod command cant be found |
| 09:47.53 | voxadam | I was able to mount the share if I used my credentials from W8 but not as a guest. I want guests to be able to read videos so that my Raspberry Pi running XBMC doesn't require user and pass. |
| 09:47.57 | krz | nosklo: that works |
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| 09:48.07 | krz | but what triggered xset to be on? |
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| 09:48.43 | Penix | krz: as root |
| 09:49.05 | nosklo | krz: by default, you get a sound on your sound card |
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| 09:50.02 | nosklo | it's like a drum, in gnome |
| 09:50.17 | nosklo | I don't know how you changed that to the internal pc speaker beep |
| 09:50.32 | krz | im usin i3wm |
| 09:50.37 | krz | wasnt there before though |
| 09:50.39 | nosklo | xset -b disables it entirely |
| 09:50.39 | krz | strange |
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| 09:52.13 | nosklo | krz: I can see in my chat history that you recently changed stuff in Xresources |
| 09:52.16 | nosklo | maybe that's related? |
| 09:53.00 | krz | nosklo: yea i did, but mostly on colors and fonts |
| 09:53.16 | krz | also XTerm*termName: xterm-256color |
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| 09:54.46 | novakitty | I have a samba wins server running and everything works great, except i cannot ping a hostname from the WINS server. I can ping hostnames to and from every other WINS client on the network, and I can nmblookup from any system including the wins server fine too. Is it because I don't have winbind installed on the wins server?? |
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| 09:55.34 | Diehard | novakitty: do you have dns set up correctly? |
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| 09:55.40 | novakitty | it seems to be just tcp programs having the problem, not smb |
| 09:55.52 | Diehard | can you ping IP instead of hostname? |
| 09:56.03 | novakitty | diehard: I'm not running a dns server, just using google open dns |
| 09:56.24 | hahaha | https://dpaste.de/ND4O |
| 09:56.25 | novakitty | diehard: should i be running a dns cache server or something? |
| 09:56.36 | hahaha | deb packages makes me crazy |
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| 09:57.00 | novakitty | ping works fine to and from all the other systems, including other linux systems |
| 09:57.15 | Diehard | novakitty: no, you don't have to, I ws just asking if your interface is set up correctly, if you have DNS servers written in its coonfig |
| 09:57.15 | novakitty | just not from the wins server |
| 09:57.24 | novakitty | yes |
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| 09:57.56 | Diehard | novakitty: ok what about firewall? did you check outgoing ping request are enabled? |
| 09:58.14 | novakitty | but a dns server out there in the real world can't help me with the lan though right? |
| 09:58.26 | novakitty | ive disabled ufw while testing |
| 09:58.29 | ChrisH | Diehard: no DNS but WINS ... this something different |
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| 09:59.12 | Diehard | he ment WINS == WINS, not WINS == windows? :D |
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| 09:59.57 | ChrisH | Diehard: hmmm, could be that way too... |
| 10:00.29 | novakitty | WINS just seems more snappy than master browsers, and id rather not have to manuall configure it all if they can jsut find eachother |
| 10:00.30 | Diehard | ChrisH: however I think he has problems with resolving hostnames, so he has wrong dns servers set up |
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| 10:00.55 | Diehard | novakitty: you should use local DNS servers instead of googles one . .google don;t know your internal devices |
| 10:01.11 | novakitty | ok |
| 10:01.36 | novakitty | but wins works great...its jsut the tcp based programs can seem to get the netbios names right |
| 10:01.50 | Diehard | netbios =! dns |
| 10:02.17 | Diehard | btw why do you ask in debian channel instead of windows? .. do you have netbios allwoed in the interface config? |
| 10:02.18 | novakitty | but other systems can ping other hostnames jsut fine, without a local dns server |
| 10:02.29 | ChrisH | novakitty: WINS == Windows Information system? If yes, I am pretty unsure if any linux is currently capable of using wins... man nsswitch.conf shows it as feature for the future. |
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| 10:03.22 | novakitty | chrish: Windows Internet Name Service |
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| 10:04.16 | ChrisH | novakitty: I would check windbind incl. libnss-winbind and use wins in nsswitch.conf |
| 10:04.33 | ChrisH | novakitty: check apt-cache show winbind |
| 10:04.47 | novakitty | yeah that was part of my question..does it sound like not having winbind on the wins server is the problem? |
| 10:05.19 | novakitty | but the wins cerver cannot be a wins client also..at least not in the smb.conf |
| 10:05.24 | novakitty | so it says |
| 10:05.44 | Diehard | :S |
| 10:05.50 | ChrisH | novakitty: where does it say that? |
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| 10:06.09 | novakitty | I didn't know if I was barking up the right tree with winbind..or if thats just for authentican and domain controllers |
| 10:06.19 | novakitty | it says right in the config file |
| 10:06.25 | novakitty | and in documentation |
| 10:07.07 | ChrisH | novakitty: If I should have a look into it, I want a link :) |
| 10:07.11 | novakitty | if you set a system to be a wins server, you cant set it as a client as well |
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| 10:07.32 | cfree | hi guys, just installed epsxe (ps1 emulator), it complains about not being able to find libXt.so.6, running 64bit debian |
| 10:07.41 | novakitty | should say it in /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 10:07.42 | ChrisH | novakitty: but samba is the winsserver and there resolver is the client. |
| 10:08.20 | ChrisH | novakitty: my smb.con says: Samba can be either a WINS Server, or a WINS Client, but NOT both |
| 10:08.29 | cfree | I think it needs 32bit libraries from libXt.i686 |
| 10:08.45 | novakitty | the wins server is actually resolving netbios names properly, i can smbtree and see it in /var/lib/win.dat..but ping, a tcp based app doesnt resolve it |
| 10:08.57 | novakitty | chrish: yeah thats it |
| 10:09.18 | ChrisH | novakitty: samba server != os resolver!! install libnss-winbind and use wins in nsswitch.conf |
| 10:09.28 | novakitty | so I have one wins server on the network, and the only problem i see is that one system cant ping using hostnames |
| 10:09.44 | novakitty | ok cool ill give that a shot then thank you |
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| 10:12.46 | novakitty | words dogs...you did it..thanks you two : ) |
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| 10:13.18 | ChrisH | novakitty: cool... |
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| 10:13.53 | novakitty | that system started out really bare bones..like it didnt have a gui, or a web browser |
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| 10:14.16 | novakitty | so some of the obvious stuff is probably missing still |
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| 10:14.45 | novakitty | wait no..that one is raspbian...hmm |
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| 10:15.13 | ChrisH | novakitty: rasberry is not supported here :) |
| 10:15.30 | novakitty | cough...debian : P |
| 10:15.44 | babilen | novakitty: no, there is #raspbian |
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| 10:16.29 | novakitty | ok another question..is there any reason to have avahi..im getting hostname.local when i ping from pinux machines..can i jsut remove that and the zeroconf stuff? |
| 10:17.10 | novakitty | im using raspbian, debian, and kubuntu all at once here, and theyre all roughly related..at least as far as samba goes i think |
| 10:18.49 | novakitty | I did try for #samba first though...doesnt exist |
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| 10:20.56 | ChrisH | novakitty: on server systems I sometimes remove the avahi stuff completely |
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| 10:21.45 | jelly | novakitty: um, a #samba channel exists here on freenode |
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| 10:22.13 | novakitty | i searched channels and tried to join it...the samba-dev channel mentions one but i didnt see it running |
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| 10:23.19 | christian | gah i think i may have messed up my ~/.i3/config |
| 10:23.27 | christian | is there a default one that i can use somewhere? |
| 10:23.48 | Guest25892 | or do i have to reinstall i3wm again? |
| 10:25.34 | babilen | Guest25892: Check "dpkg -L i3-wm" -- Looks as if you have /etc/i3/config |
| 10:25.50 | babilen | Guest25892: I am sure that #i3 can guide you to many default configuration files though. |
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| 10:26.35 | babilen | novakitty: There is a fine #samba channel here on freenode with 160+ people |
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| 10:27.33 | novakitty | weird...sorry i missed it somehow...think i was better off here though |
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| 10:41.31 | jelcin | is there a way to backup files that only root have access to with another user which does not have the right to read the files? For example a cron script that changes the permissions of the files just for the time rsync is running under non root user? Is this usefull at all or is backup under root user not critical? |
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| 10:42.28 | Diehard | jelcin: you can make a script with pre and post commands so you can change permissions temporary |
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| 10:48.53 | rickweaver | hi guys, i am experiencing a problem right now and I don't know how to deal with it. When I installed the system I have created a user and so far I had no problem to login and work with that user. Suddenly it seems I can't do anything within the home directory, I can't create directory, can't download any files from the internet, it says insufficient permission |
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| 10:49.40 | rickweaver | all permissions are set properly |
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| 10:50.02 | Diehard | rickweaver: also ownage? |
| 10:50.10 | rickweaver | yepp |
| 10:50.31 | Diehard | do you run any quota? |
| 10:50.47 | rickweaver | nope, i am using the computer on my own |
| 10:50.53 | rickweaver | no quota set |
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| 10:52.15 | rickweaver | i did not modify anything, i am just using at the moment the computer as a general computer |
| 10:52.25 | rickweaver | browsing, word processing, etc |
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| 10:53.36 | rickweaver | when i create a directory with the root it is created, i set the permissions, to the user, but when I switch back to the user i can't modify or create anything |
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| 10:53.55 | no_gravity | Good Morning! |
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| 10:54.39 | no_gravity | I have a file "-encoding=iso-8859-1" on my disk when I try to do cat "-encoding=iso-8859-1" i get "cat: invalid option -- 'c'" - what does that mean?? |
| 10:55.00 | babilen | no_gravity: It means you forgot one "-" |
| 10:55.13 | jelcin | Diehard: given the fact that i want to run the script on the backup server and not on the server to be backed up for security reasons. How can i change permissions on the server to be backed up when i run the script under non-root user from the backup machine? |
| 10:55.18 | no_gravity | babilen: what do you mean? |
| 10:55.29 | babilen | no_gravity: It should be "--encoding" not "-encoding" |
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| 10:55.52 | babilen | no_gravity: "-encoding" is equivalent to "-e -n -c -o ..." |
| 10:56.10 | trewas | no_gravity: it thinks that the filename is an option, easiest way to specify also the path so cat ./-encoding=iso-8859-1 |
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| 10:56.28 | no_gravity | babilen: the name of the file is "-encoding=iso-8859-1" i just want to look at it. no options involved. |
| 10:56.45 | no_gravity | trewas: that works! |
| 10:57.00 | no_gravity | trewas: strange, that it parses the filename as options, even when i put it in "". |
| 10:57.07 | babilen | no_gravity: Ah, I wasn't aware of that option anyway. If you want to see a file of that name use either "cat ./-encoding=..." or "cat -- -encoding=..." |
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| 10:57.40 | babilen | no_gravity: Sorry, missed the "I have a file" for some reason. :( |
| 10:58.16 | no_gravity | babilen: no prob. thank you! |
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| 11:00.25 | Diehard | rickweaver: I had the same problem once and only recreating user helped :X |
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| 11:02.16 | rickweaver | well that's going to be fun but ok, will try thx |
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| 11:02.35 | trewas | no_gravity: "" characters are removed by the shell so it does not make a difference for cat to quote the filename |
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| 11:12.36 | Sendoushi | guys... i'm using debian barebones. installed the ati drivers but still no 3d acceleration it seems. installed firmware non free still the same. ideas on how to solve? |
| 11:13.03 | babilen | Sendoushi: How did you install "the ati drivers" ? |
| 11:14.04 | babilen | dpkg: tell Sendoushi -about ati |
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| 11:17.57 | no_gravity | trewas: interesting! |
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| 11:24.51 | rohanion | hi everyone |
| 11:25.10 | rohanion | anybody running mate? |
| 11:25.18 | babilen | dpkg: tell rohanion about mate |
| 11:25.26 | babilen | rohanion: We don't mate (yet) |
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| 11:26.32 | rohanion | babilen: so the broken dependency in libmatewnck is kinda ok? |
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| 11:29.04 | babilen | rohanion: I have no idea what you are referring to and there is no libmatewnck package in Debian. |
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| 11:31.09 | bl4ckdu5t | I usually need to work with a dictionary and a thesaurus sometimes as a writer. I couldn't install Microsoft Encarta Dictionary with wine. Which dictionary can I use with my deb installation? |
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| 11:31.44 | rohanion | babilen: root@lorien:/home/rohanion# apt-cache policy libmatewnck-common |
| 11:31.45 | rohanion | libmatewnck-common: |
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| 11:33.09 | bl4ckdu5t | gnome-dictionary uses the internet and I'm not always online. I need something that works fine offline |
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| 11:37.25 | wekalaner | hello |
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| 11:38.29 | wekalaner | i have installed wheezy with lvm+encryption. as i needed to a more recent kernel version i installed 3.11 from the backports repository. now i am not able to boot again - it just hangs while asking for a password… my guess is that initramfs generation failed. any ideas how to deal with that? (this was already my second try, i had similar issues the first time) |
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| 11:38.45 | babilen | bl4ckdu5t: You can run a dictd server on localhost and configure gnome-dictionary to connect to that. I'd recommend to google for different queries including "offline", "dictionary", "debian", ... |
| 11:39.04 | babilen | dpkg: tell wekalaner -about fixmbr |
| 11:39.24 | bl4ckdu5t | babilen: thanks |
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| 11:39.36 | babilen | bl4ckdu5t: artha looks quite alright (based on wordnet) |
| 11:40.18 | wekalaner | babilen: it is not grub what is broken - grub starts fine. however, when being asked or the ecnryption password it hangs.. |
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| 11:40.32 | babilen | bl4ckdu5t: You will probably find articles such as http://www.noobslab.com/2012/11/howto-install-dictionary-in-ubuntumint.html - but read up on dictd |
| 11:40.46 | babilen | wekalaner: Okay, can you boot the older kernel? |
| 11:41.07 | babilen | wekalaner: You could re-generate the initramfs after chrooting too |
| 11:41.10 | wekalaner | babilen: theoretically yes. however, the kernel update generated the bad initramfs for both, the new and the old kernel |
| 11:41.40 | babilen | ack, that sounds like a bug. I'd regenerate it and check if you can fix it that way. |
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| 11:42.05 | wekalaner | i already tried that with my first installation. then i decided to install it again, but still the same problem.... |
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| 11:42.18 | babilen | wekalaner: Otherwise it might be a problem with initramfs-tools from wheezy-backports |
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| 11:42.25 | wekalaner | initramfs generation complained about a missing console and keymap folder |
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| 11:42.47 | ChrisH | wekalaner: but uf using debian packages they should a) update the initramfs-stuff and b) recreate the initrd ... at least they did it for me. |
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| 11:42.56 | babilen | will just wait until wekalaner provided all available information and will take a shower in the meanwhile (see you later) |
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| 11:43.03 | wekalaner | yeah, i think in general i do not want to rely on backport packages if there are a lot of issues with them |
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| 11:43.21 | babilen | There shouldn't be and many people use the kernel from backports. |
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| 11:44.20 | wekalaner | well, unfortuntaly i have the mentioned problem :) |
| 11:44.42 | wekalaner | babilen: what information would you need? |
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| 11:45.24 | psycheye2 | within a chroot environment what is the best way to disallow use of command by users? |
| 11:45.38 | psycheye2 | works by permission? |
| 11:46.07 | ChrisH | psycheye2: remove the binary; remove the user :) |
| 11:46.15 | psycheye2 | :-D |
| 11:46.29 | psycheye2 | maybe better change permission of binary |
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| 11:50.30 | wekalaner | why is "update-initramfs" unknown in rescue mode shell? |
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| 11:51.01 | jelly | wekalaner: verify your PATH has /usr/sbin and /sbin components, echo $PATH |
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| 11:51.13 | wekalaner | it does |
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| 11:51.40 | wekalaner | where is update-initramfs exactly located? |
| 11:51.50 | jelly | wekalaner: /usr/sbin/update-initramfs |
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| 11:52.35 | wekalaner | no such binary |
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| 11:52.43 | wekalaner | what is the package that contains this binary>? |
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| 11:53.14 | jelly | judd: file usr/sbin/update-initramfs |
| 11:53.19 | judd | Search for usr/sbin/update-initramfs in wheezy/i386: live-tools: usr/sbin/update-initramfs; initramfs-tools: usr/sbin/update-initramfs |
| 11:53.32 | jelly | wekalaner: initramfs-tools |
| 11:53.45 | wekalaner | ok, i guess my broken system must be related to initramfs-tools not being installed |
| 11:54.02 | ChrisH | wekalaner: and for newer kernel you might need newer initramfs-tools... backports back in |
| 11:55.00 | jelly | wekalaner: yeah, you want to have that installed |
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| 11:55.44 | wekalaner | what's the way to force the reinstallation of the new kernel in backports? (including all required dependencies) |
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| 11:58.47 | wekalaner | any way of scrolling up the terminal in rescue mode (similar to shift+page up)? |
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| 12:00.17 | jelly | that ought to work |
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| 12:01.27 | wekalaner | for me it does not. nevermind, i just updated the initramfs and now it seems to work. one more thing, in order to avoid this trouble in the future: where can i define that upon new kernel installations only the *new* initramfs is being updated, and the old one is kept without modifications. currently when installing a new kernel all my initramfs images are being updated... |
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| 12:13.33 | osfd | Hi. Do you know a terminal emulator you can split the screen, please? |
| 12:13.42 | osfd | out fo terminator |
| 12:13.55 | k-man | i had wlan1 configured in /etc/network/interfaces when i installed network-manager, now even though i commented it out, nmcli says wlan1 is unmanaged |
| 12:14.08 | k-man | how do i tell nmcli to start managing wlan1? |
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| 12:14.44 | rfree | fireba11: play quake |
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| 12:15.04 | rfree | hm disregard this, had scrolllog way up. |
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| 12:19.15 | _val_ | osfd: screen / tmux? |
| 12:19.30 | osfd | _val_: thank you |
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| 12:20.31 | _val_ | osfd: http://serverfault.com/questions/528993/bash-prompt-below-output-background-log-tail/529000#529000 |
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| 12:21.01 | osfd | _val_: thank you very much |
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| 12:21.24 | osfd | _val_: this is called multiplexing... |
| 12:21.27 | osfd | did not know |
| 12:22.00 | _val_ | osfd: you are welcom! |
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| 12:23.49 | osfd | screen only makes horizontal split ? |
| 12:24.14 | CissWit | osfd: ctrl+a | |
| 12:24.21 | osfd | ok :) |
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| 12:28.29 | osfd | tmux may look a little more user friendly |
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| 12:29.00 | _val_ | osfd: a drawback of screen is that it doesn't preserve screen splits once detached. So yes. |
| 12:30.05 | k-man | oh, apparantly nmcli version <= .9.6 cannot add new connections |
| 12:30.10 | k-man | this is annoying |
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| 12:39.26 | mewald_ | Hi everyone, I am struggling with a perl and locale problem on wheezy for a while now (http://pastebin.com/csK2fB4H) I followed a couple of instructions about setting environment variables and running dpkg-reconfigure locales but all this fixes it for the session but not persistently. Right now this breaks my STONITH agents which run in perl because stonithd tries to parse the locale warnings as XML, too :D Does anybody have a persistent |
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| 12:41.09 | joltcan | mewald_: I have export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in my .profile |
| 12:41.44 | joltcan | mewald_: that takes care of it on a per user way. Or you can set it in /etc/profile as a default for your users |
| 12:42.23 | themill | mewald_: precisely what did you do when you dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 12:43.28 | mewald_ | themill: ok /etc/profiles seems like a proper solution |
| 12:43.28 | krz | gah. dont know whats so different now. my terminal is set to 16 colors. it was working with 256 colors earlier. the last thing i did was xset -b |
| 12:43.38 | themill | mewald_: not really |
| 12:43.47 | mewald_ | themill: why not? |
| 12:43.48 | krz | echo $TERM returns xterm-256color |
| 12:44.18 | mewald_ | themill: dpkg-reconfigure locales fixes it until reboot / or new session |
| 12:44.53 | mewald_ | not a persistent solution |
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| 12:44.56 | themill | mewald_: dpkg-reconfigure locales makes only permanent changes and not transient changes like that |
| 12:45.04 | themill | mewald_: precisely what did you do when you dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 12:45.11 | krz | the weird thing is. when i do xrdb -load ~.Xresources, and open a new terminal. 256 colors is set!!! |
| 12:45.14 | krz | wtf is going on |
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| 12:45.53 | o1e | mewald_: Did you check with locale -a if en_US.UTF-8 is available on your system? |
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| 12:46.08 | ChrisH | mewald_: http://paste.debian.net/70119/ with wheezy |
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| 12:46.30 | krz | am i supposed to set something up in xsessions? so that it does xrdb -load ~/.Xresources? |
| 12:46.45 | krz | i remember i had to put this in xinitrc, when i was in arch |
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| 12:50.56 | mewald_ | o1e: just did (created new session, perl is broken again): en_US.UTF-8 is listed |
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| 12:51.44 | mewald_ | critter: LC_ALL is not set on my system |
| 12:51.50 | mewald_ | ChrisH: LC_ALL is not set on my system |
| 12:52.20 | ChrisH | mewald_: set it and test again |
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| 12:53.11 | o1e | mewald_: de_DE.UTF-8 is listed too? |
| 12:53.14 | themill | mewald_: the output of "locale -a; locale; grep -v ^# /etc/locale.gen" would be good to see in a pastebin |
| 12:53.39 | babilen | themill tries again :) |
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| 12:54.15 | mewald_ | o1e: no |
| 12:54.20 | mewald_ | themill: working on it |
| 12:54.50 | krz | anyone? |
| 12:54.57 | mewald_ | themill: http://paste.debian.net/70121/ |
| 12:55.23 | themill | mewald_: so you're asking for de_DE.UTF-8 but not generating them when you dpkg-reconfigure locales. |
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| 12:56.02 | babilen | krz: xrdb -merge "${HOME}/.Xresources" |
| 12:56.15 | CissWit | krz: i have the same issue, i have to load my Xdefaults manually i can't have some options in it to be parsed automatically |
| 12:56.57 | CissWit | so i just added it in my zshrc and have to open two terminals the first time i startx |
| 12:57.16 | mewald_ | themill: right ... doesnt make any sense does it? |
| 12:57.25 | krz | babilen: where does that go? |
| 12:57.40 | mewald_ | just generated it and logged off/on |
| 12:57.43 | mewald_ | seems fixed |
| 12:57.48 | babilen | mewald_: It makes perfect sense. You have to generate the locales you want to use. Re-run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and make sure to select de_DE.UTF-8 |
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| 12:58.25 | krz | babilen: should i just type that in ther terminal and reboot? |
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| 12:58.44 | babilen | krz: You can put that in your ~/.xsession |
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| 12:59.20 | babilen | krz: But then, any aprticular reason why you don't use a display manager such as gdm3 or lightdm? |
| 12:59.26 | babilen | *particular |
| 12:59.39 | krz | babilen: im using lightdm |
| 12:59.51 | krz | i actually dont have an ~/.xsession file |
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| 13:01.10 | babilen | krz: Don't use lightdm, what have you done so far to investigate/solve that issue? |
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| 13:02.15 | krz | babilen: have read online for a few hit and miss solutions |
| 13:02.22 | krz | this looks promising though: http://superuser.com/questions/481470/autoload-xresources-when-system-is-started |
| 13:02.27 | krz | soething about .xprofile |
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| 13:03.25 | dashs | Having a prob with nfs4: how to get client to NOT translate uid/gid on a mount; i.e. use the numbers that are on disk. |
| 13:03.37 | Xat` | I have a chrooted environment I would like perl and perl modules in it . Can I copy /usr/lib/perl5 to the chrooted env to resolv this ? |
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| 13:04.03 | krz | i dont have an .xprofile in ~ though. wondering if need to create it |
| 13:04.35 | jelly | Xat`: why not properly install perl-base or perl in the chroot |
| 13:04.37 | babilen | krz: IIRC should be handled by /etc/lightdm/Xsession -- do you have that file? |
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| 13:05.08 | babilen | krz: I use gdm3 which handles this without issues |
| 13:05.17 | Xat` | jelly: can you explain me how to do that ? |
| 13:05.28 | krz | babilen: you using i3? |
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| 13:05.49 | babilen | krz: No I don't, but what does that have to do with anything? |
| 13:05.56 | krz | just wondering |
| 13:06.06 | krz | no /etc/lightdm/Xsession |
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| 13:06.30 | krz | i have /et/lightdm: keys.conf lightdm.conf lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf users.conf |
| 13:07.17 | petn-randall | Hi dashs, maybe you should back up a little and explain what you're trying to accomplish. |
| 13:07.24 | babilen | Well, seems as if lightdm does this differently. Look into that. My intuition would have been that it ships its own Xsession file which takes care of things like that. |
| 13:08.15 | krz | i have /etc/X11/Xsession though |
| 13:08.17 | krz | could that be it? |
| 13:08.20 | o1e | dashs: what do you want to achieve? is "ls -ln" what you search? |
| 13:09.52 | dashs | Had some usb external drives on one system, with a system uid/gid pair of 109/108. Now mounting them on another system , exporting them to the original system and would like the same uid/gid pair to be presented. |
| 13:09.53 | krz | ;i also notice that .xsession-errors has a few errors |
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| 13:10.51 | krz | maybe thats why xrdb isnt loading Xresources? |
| 13:10.55 | krz | because of the errors? |
| 13:10.56 | o1e | dashs: the uid/gid didn't change, your "new" system is just having different names for 109/108. Try ls -ln to verify |
| 13:11.23 | dashs | ole: not so ls -ln shows 115/121 |
| 13:13.16 | dashs | ole: and server side still shows 109/108 |
| 13:13.40 | krz | babilen: http://pastie.org/8542009 what is the error? this is what .xsession-errors reports? |
| 13:14.06 | krz | babilen: http://pastie.org/8542009 what is the error? this is what .xsession-errors reports |
| 13:14.07 | o1e | dashs: strange, what are the nfs-options you gave? on both, client + server side? |
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| 13:15.39 | dashs | ole: I don't know what those migth be... |
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| 13:16.57 | dashs | ole: had to set the server side idmapd.conf to localdomain to avoid nobody/nogroup |
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| 13:18.21 | babilen | krz: That looks rather specific to i3 rather than Xresources. And yes, /etc/X11/Xsession contains code to load a user's ~/.Xresources (take a look at it) |
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| 13:19.49 | dashs | ole: think I'm getting it --- it's trying to map by name (duh) and 109 is 'hplip' (gaggh) on server, not 'mythtv' |
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| 13:20.22 | ml604 | Hello! Assistance needed troubleshooting xruns when running electric sheep with music playing through jack... Looking for tools to inspect alsa layer and other potential bottlenecks. anyone? anyone? bueller? bueller? |
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| 13:20.51 | mator | hello |
| 13:20.55 | o1e | dashs: so duh is 109 on one site and 115 on the other? |
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| 13:21.33 | mator | is it possible to create an installation repo from debian iso (cd/dvd) in local network and install with netboot via ftp/http? |
| 13:22.05 | dashs | ole: names for system uid are not consistent. Wish I could tell nfs4 to NOT map. |
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| 13:22.41 | o1e | dashs: just use nfsv3 :) |
| 13:23.18 | dashs | ole: Can I force it downlevel? |
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| 13:24.49 | dashs | ole: I use NIS still and the default is not to propagate system (low) uids or gids. |
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| 13:26.07 | petern_ | ml604, #jack might be a better bet |
| 13:27.01 | petern_ | ml604, but ensure your ulimits are set correctly so that jack can run in realtime mode |
| 13:27.15 | ml604 | ok, but what I'm troubleshooting is performance while running a non-audio program. alsa layer, it also happens when running clementine through alsa sink directly. |
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| 13:37.02 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 13:37.04 | ShapeShifter499 | I'm about to install mono on my debian system for use with keepass... Any security issues I need to be aware of? |
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| 13:37.46 | CissWit | use a strong master password :) |
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| 13:38.27 | jelly | ShapeShifter499: why not just use keepassx from the distro |
| 13:38.34 | d3sync | use private browsing + keepass |
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| 13:39.52 | ShapeShifter499 | jelly, better integration with iceweasel |
| 13:40.25 | ShapeShifter499 | jelly, I can't find a firefox/iceweasel plugin for keepassx |
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| 13:43.06 | ShapeShifter499 | CissWit, I have a 100 character password ready to go |
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| 13:43.50 | ShapeShifter499 | includes symbols, uppper, lower, and numbers |
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| 13:47.21 | Guest30354 | gah! |
| 13:47.23 | Guest30354 | i give up! |
| 13:47.39 | Guest30354 | why is this issue so hard to solve in debian, when it is easily done in arch! |
| 13:48.34 | Guest30354 | Xresources doesnt load automatically |
| 13:48.38 | jelly | !tell Guest30354 -about ask |
| 13:49.03 | Guest30354 | at this point, i feel inclined to put xrdb -load ~/.Xresources in .xinitrc |
| 13:49.18 | Guest30354 | and screw lighdm |
| 13:49.43 | Guest30354 | startx with a dm, might be the better option! |
| 13:49.49 | Guest30354 | without a dm* |
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| 13:50.44 | Guest30354 | !tell jelly i just explained my fucking problem. you got a solution buddy? |
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| 13:51.56 | jelly | I try to avoid people that whine first, and only remember to define the actual issue when pressed |
| 13:52.40 | jelly | kdm loads my .Xresources |
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| 13:55.59 | Guest30354 | actually, i do believe .Xresources is being loaded. its loading my font that i specified, and other things like the background color |
| 13:55.59 | Guest30354 | the only thing its not doing is 256 colors |
| 13:55.59 | Guest30354 | it looks like it is still using a 16 color scheme |
| 13:56.13 | Guest30354 | anyone else have 256 colors enabled in xterm? |
| 13:56.19 | Guest30354 | whats your setup like: |
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| 13:56.30 | Guest30354 | /:/?/ |
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| 13:57.29 | julius_ | hi |
| 13:57.38 | krissed | Hi everyone. I got a lenovo edge 2545 but it seems that i cant get wifi working. Ive installed the firmware-nonfree but i cant get the wlan0 up running.. Im sorta stuck. and i belive i should have a wlagn program ?? |
| 13:58.04 | jelly | Guest30354: kdm starting a kde session on one machine, and kdm starting an xfce session on another. Both set up resources properly, as evidenced by urxvt terminals |
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| 13:58.19 | jelly | both wheezy |
| 13:58.40 | julius_ | ive installed davical via apt-get, dpkg -L shows a folder called: /usr/share/davical/htdocs/ which contains .php files. am i supposed to run: ln -s /usr/share/davical/htdocs/ /var/www/davical to install it? |
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| 13:59.36 | g105b | Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 and would really like to get some support using Wine to set up a new IMAP mail account for use in Outlook 2010. When I run control.exe, I can open the usual Mail settings window, but when it comes to typing the server configuration this is all I get: http://i.imgur.com/bgPRJPS.png The fields are not drawn correctly, and clicking on next crashes the application. This is the same in Ubuntu too. |
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| 13:59.57 | CissWit | g105b: there's no ubuntu support here |
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| 14:00.12 | CissWit | dpkg: tell g105b about ubuntu |
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| 14:01.12 | jelly | g105b: please use the #ubuntu channel, or the ##Linux one; the volunteers here do not know what changes there might be in ubuntu compared to debian, and there are other, policy imposed reasons why helping ubuntu users in here is avoided |
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| 14:02.08 | jelly | still uses outlook 2003 in crossover office |
| 14:03.05 | g105b | CissWit: I'm not asking for Ubuntu support. |
| 14:03.13 | g105b | I just mentioned that it's the same in Ubuntu. |
| 14:03.18 | elvora | Guest30354: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/04783b80/ |
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| 14:03.38 | tabasko | g105b: I would try crossover, there is silver medal for office 2010: http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name/?app_id=7437 |
| 14:03.38 | elvora | add that to you .bashrc file and source the file |
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| 14:04.14 | g105b | tabasko: thanks I'll try it |
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| 14:47.33 | mewald_ | \quit |
| 14:47.57 | Iridos | /quit? |
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| 14:48.49 | Iridos | jelly, well if it's in gnome, perhaps gconf shows something (albeit not yet, haven't logged out since installing wine) |
| 14:49.12 | Iridos | but one thing for sure... iceweasel has it just as much as your non-free firefox |
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| 14:49.15 | Iridos | ;) |
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| 14:59.39 | iAdam1n | How can I rename a user? |
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| 15:00.09 | ChrisH | iAdam1n: man usermod check for -l |
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| 15:01.30 | babilen | iAdam1n: Better not, as you will be surprised how many configuration files hardcade paths and names and whatnot. See if it works out, but you might end up symlinking your old homedir. I'd recommend simply creating a new user and migrating your data (or accepting your badly chosen name) |
| 15:01.30 | iAdam1n | no -l |
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| 15:01.59 | iAdam1n | oh I see it |
| 15:02.07 | talin_ | hello. i just installed debian 7, and now i want to install enlightenment window manager. i can not find it with apt-cache search |
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| 15:03.14 | tarzeau_ | talin_: it's not in stable: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=e17 |
| 15:03.20 | tarzeau_ | and e16 is not in stable either |
| 15:03.24 | talin_ | how come? |
| 15:03.37 | tarzeau_ | happens |
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| 15:05.05 | iAdam1n | So is it possible to rename a user? |
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| 15:09.44 | talin_ | tarzeau_: it is still possible to install it? |
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| 15:12.21 | abrotman | holy crap ... |
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| 15:13.47 | tdn | I have just set up a trac virtualhost on apache using fcgid, but when I access the site, I get an error 500, and this in the logs: (104)Connection reset by peer: mod_fcgid: error reading data from FastCGI server. I have checked that mod_fcgid is enabled. What to do next? |
| 15:13.57 | tdn | It is trac from the wheezy sources. |
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| 15:16.33 | talin_ | do the docs have any step-by-step installation guide for installing and configuring xorg? |
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| 15:18.18 | jordanm | xorg hasn't really required configuration in years |
| 15:18.22 | jordanm | only for special cases |
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| 15:20.00 | talin_ | jordanm: hmm, okay. i did apt-get install xorg and then Xorg -configure, and then i copied the configuration file into /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 15:20.12 | talin_ | jordanm: i think it might've worked. does it still work like this? |
| 15:20.32 | jordanm | talin_: no, you don't need the xorg.conf file |
| 15:20.53 | jordanm | only under special cases like proprietary drivers |
| 15:21.08 | talin_ | hmm, weird. when i last used debian around 1997, you needed it |
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| 15:21.37 | jordanm | a lot of evolving in 15 years |
| 15:21.42 | talin_ | jordanm: yeah :) |
| 15:22.00 | talin_ | jordanm: so just apt-get install xorg and then get a wm and summon it from .xinitrc? |
| 15:22.19 | jordanm | talin_: most cases you don't even need a .xinitrc |
| 15:22.30 | jordanm | talin_: startx will use the default x-session-manager if there is one |
| 15:22.36 | talin_ | scratches his head |
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| 15:25.29 | iAdam1n | how do I create a new user? |
| 15:25.50 | Elemeno-work | man useradd |
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| 15:27.03 | jordanm | iAdam1n: adduser, as root |
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| 15:31.47 | abrotman | Jennifer36: ask ##hardware |
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| 15:33.17 | RafaelK1 | hello folks, |
| 15:34.13 | RafaelK1 | why can a init.d script stop a daemon very slowly |
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| 15:35.07 | ChrisH | RafaelK1: the daemin is stuck in kernel. ps -efl | grep daemon |
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| 15:35.52 | ChrisH | RafaelK1: if the letter in second column is D its unkillable |
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| 15:36.35 | RafaelK1 | ChrisH : do you mean daemon - service? |
| 15:36.48 | RafaelK1 | i mean php-fpm :-P |
| 15:36.52 | ChrisH | daemon process itself |
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| 15:38.13 | RafaelK1 | also i use : start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $PIDFILE --exec $DAEMON --name $NAME -- $DAEMON_ARGS 2>/dev/null for self compiled PHP |
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| 15:39.23 | RafaelK1 | if i set NAME=php-fpm then starts and stops php-fpm very quick |
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| 15:40.20 | RafaelK1 | but if i set NAME=php555-fpm then starts php-fpm quick but stops 30Seconds or more |
| 15:44.09 | ChrisH | RafaelK1: dunno, but I would use strace to get timestamps for the stop part... but I am not sure if selfcompiled stuff gets supported here |
| 15:45.54 | RafaelK1 | following command is slow by NAME=php555-fpm :-> start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --oknodo --retry=0/30/TERM/5/KILL/5 --exec $DAEMON |
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| 15:46.08 | RafaelK1 | and fast by NAME=php-fpm |
| 15:46.39 | GuestO52244 | what would you suggest .. chromium or iceweasel |
| 15:47.26 | RafaelK1 | how does "start-stop-daemon --stop …" work? why ignores it --name option ? |
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| 15:52.08 | samael | hello |
| 15:52.23 | ChrisH | RafaelK1: from man start-stop-daemon --name gets used to select the process to be killed. How are these processes named? php555-fpm or php-fpm? |
| 15:53.11 | Thugula | hello samael. |
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| 15:53.32 | RafaelK1 | ChrisH: php555-fpm |
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| 15:54.15 | samael | debian wheezy, x/gtk, 7" resistive touch screen. what can i do to improve the usability? i mean, use a particylar wm, library, or setup |
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| 15:57.01 | ChrisH | RafaelK1: last sentence as this is offtopic from my pov. Use strace with timestamp option to get an idea where start-stop-daemon takes its time. OR use the fast setting. |
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| 15:57.46 | RafaelK1 | ChrisH: fast setting? |
| 15:58.44 | ChrisH | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:00.42 | RafaelK1 | ChrisH: then status part does not work :D |
| 16:00.57 | RafaelK1 | kann not get status |
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| 16:01.32 | RafaelK1 | it says is running ever, because original php5-fpm runns |
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| 16:01.33 | xaores | http://marc.info/?l=debian-devel&m=135698351518807&w=1 |
| 16:01.40 | xaores | what this message about? |
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| 16:02.07 | xaores | cant find this package anywhere |
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| 16:06.30 | Wubix | what is the default runlevel in debian, please? |
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| 16:07.38 | julius_ | Wubix, 2 try: runlevel at the command |
| 16:07.47 | julius_ | ive installed davical via apt-get, dpkg -L shows a folder called: /usr/share/davical/htdocs/ which contains .php files. am i supposed to run: ln -s /usr/share/davical/htdocs/ /var/www/davical to install it? |
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| 16:08.25 | Wubix | how can i find out why my script in /etc/init.d is not run? |
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| 16:10.56 | ChrisH | Wubix: a script in /etc/init.d is not excpected to be run if using systemV startup... then there must be some links on /etc/rcX.d/Syyscriptname |
| 16:11.25 | Wubix | yes, thats what i did |
| 16:11.34 | Wubix | how i did it hundred times before |
| 16:11.43 | Wubix | but for some reason the script is never executed |
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| 16:12.05 | GuestO52244 | is jessie stable? |
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| 16:15.33 | jelly | GuestO52244: nope |
| 16:15.36 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell GuestO52244 about jessie |
| 16:15.40 | jelly | jessie is testing! |
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| 16:16.28 | jelly | wheezy is debian 7 is stable, until 2015-ish |
| 16:16.39 | ChrisH | Wubix: check your init.d script using vi for ^M at the end of the #!/bin/shell ... does it execute manually? |
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| 16:17.37 | wols | jelly: optimist |
| 16:18.08 | GuestO52244 | mhh i have a BIG problem with my current system |
| 16:18.09 | jelly | !jessie pool |
| 16:18.09 | dpkg | See <jessie pool 1> for bets placed on when Jessie will release. To add one, ask me about <jessie bet>. |
| 16:18.12 | jelly | !jessie pool 1 |
| 16:18.13 | dpkg | ! babÄ«len=2015-05-23 themÃll=2015-06-23 |
| 16:18.22 | jelly | 23 skidoo |
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| 16:21.14 | Wubix | ChrisH: the script works manually |
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| 16:22.41 | Absolute0 | Is aptitude still the preferred package manager in debian 7 or should I now use apt-get? |
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| 16:22.45 | Absolute0 | Or it doesn't matter? |
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| 16:23.54 | unclezipper | Does anyone know anything about piping files into an audio device file to make it play over the speakers? I used to be able to do it with OSS, but now my old tricks don't work |
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| 16:24.44 | unclezipper | Absolute0: It doesn't matter in most cases, but aptitude tends to not give up as easily |
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| 16:25.41 | Absolute0 | why did ubuntu decide to go with apt-get as their standard? |
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| 16:25.51 | peterrooney | Absolute0: because they |
| 16:26.16 | peterrooney | re willing to repackage debian's beta software as "ready to ship" |
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| 16:27.02 | peterrooney | Absolute0: apt-get tends to have less surprises, aptitude can sometimes resolve weird situations better. |
| 16:28.15 | Absolute0 | okie dokes |
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| 16:29.18 | peterrooney | sorry, that "beta" remark was just pent-up rage at all the ubuntu users who come in here thinking there's no difference between the two. |
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| 16:30.39 | unclezipper | peterrooney: Well, good job... That hardly seemed aggressive; I would have went off on a tangent if I had seen it first |
| 16:31.14 | stim | hey there |
| 16:31.15 | stim | # quotatool -u tst -bq 200M -l '250 Mb' / |
| 16:31.16 | stim | quotatool: Error while detecting kernel quota version: No such file or directory |
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| 16:31.30 | stim | could you help me with that? |
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| 16:32.35 | stim | please give me a hint: http://nopaste.info/1c25967a88.html |
| 16:33.14 | peterrooney | Absolute0: possilby because apt-get is a bit smaller than aptitude. aptitude has a very fancy curses interface when run without parameters. |
| 16:33.34 | peterrooney | moment |
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| 16:33.43 | somiaj | stim: try '/etc/init.d/quota start' |
| 16:33.55 | somiaj | stim: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/47 -- it is some of the notes/comments to this guide |
| 16:34.17 | Absolute0 | I was told at some point that you shouldn't mix apt-get with aptitude--I guess that was inaccurate advice. |
| 16:34.26 | Absolute0 | As in, install with apt-get and remove with aptitutde |
| 16:34.50 | petn-randall | Absolute0: That's not true. In fact, I freely mix both several times a month. |
| 16:34.55 | stim | # /etc/init.d/quota status |
| 16:34.56 | stim | [ ok ] quota is on. |
| 16:35.01 | Absolute0 | several times a month?! |
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| 16:35.03 | somiaj | Absolute0: they both manage the same dpkg database and don't mess with each other. They do have different logic and sometimes one works in a case the other wont. |
| 16:35.08 | Absolute0 | what are you installing/uninstalling so often? |
| 16:35.13 | Absolute0 | You must be a maintainer... |
| 16:35.22 | babilen | Absolute0: It used to be true, but these days they use the same underlying library |
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| 16:35.35 | petn-randall | Absolute0: admin with dozens of machines. There are security updates every now and then. |
| 16:35.36 | somiaj | Absolute0: /msg dpkg why aptitude, /msg dpkg why apt-get, also why not aptitude and why not apt-get for a brief idea what the differences are. |
| 16:35.47 | unclezipper | Absolute0: I'm worse. I do that several times a day |
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| 16:36.12 | somiaj | stim: there is no reason the /msg me, but if you have a follow up question or that advise didn't fix your problem please ask in the channel. |
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| 16:37.26 | stim | the advised didn't fix the problem |
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| 16:39.01 | Absolute0 | does insserv start a service at boot? |
| 16:39.23 | somiaj | stim: I am just searching google for the error you posted and looking at the common fixes peole have had, I would suggest you do the same |
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| 16:39.53 | somiaj | Absolute0: there are various ways to manage the startup scripts. |
| 16:39.58 | stim | somiaj: exactly this channel is my last hope |
| 16:40.12 | somiaj | Absolute0: the default debian admin tool is update-rc.d |
| 16:40.23 | somiaj | Absolute0: though inserv should work just fine |
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| 16:41.00 | Absolute0 | https://wiki.debian.org/Daemon |
| 16:41.50 | somiaj | stim: have you enabled any quotas, or are you just tryign to see the current ones? |
| 16:42.01 | somiaj | stim: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=670642 -- fou9nd this old squeeze bug |
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| 16:43.09 | somiaj | stim: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=711502 -- I think that bug is the same thing, I see they fixed it upstream but doesn't seem the fix made it to wheezy and others do get that error. Again I haven't expreienced this as I don't use quotas, just relaying info I found. |
| 16:43.12 | stim | somiaj: 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 16:43.39 | talin_ | i found e17 on packages.debian.org, though it is for jessie (testing) and sid (unstable). how can i install one of them (and which one should i choose?) on debian 7? |
| 16:43.41 | somiaj | stim: the bug is in quotatool it seems, and not the kernel version, or missing the features. Seems the bug was fixed upstream. |
| 16:43.57 | somiaj | talin_: /msg dpkg ssb -- you should make your own backport |
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| 16:44.21 | Wayne_ | I've never used Debian before. I'm going to set up a new server for Subsonic, Plex, rtorrent, and a Minecraft server. The server is Intel i3 2 cores 3.4GHz, 8GB ram 2TB HDD. Should I use Debian, or would Ubuntu be easier? |
| 16:44.21 | somiaj | talin_: in general you will want to compile it from the source code, those instructions should say in a simple case how to do that to build the debian package. |
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| 16:44.42 | somiaj | Wayne_: you are in #debian, of course we will suggest that. |
| 16:44.45 | Wayne_ | it will only be used as a headless server |
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| 16:45.26 | somiaj | Wayne_: I personally think both will work just fine, I think debian is better, but the experience may varry. A lot may depend on what kinda of config tools you are use to. Debian may require a bit more configuration from the cli |
| 16:45.53 | Wayne_ | somiaj: CLI doesn't scare me, since the server is headless anyway |
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| 16:46.12 | talin_ | somiaj: hmm, i am a newbie debian user. if i get the source and build that, how will i upgrade/uninstall, avoid getting binaries and libs all over my system that i don't have control over? |
| 16:46.13 | unclezipper | Wayne_: I use Debian on all of my servers. Ubuntu is garbage, IMO. I've found that it often gets in your way |
| 16:46.26 | RafaelK1 | ChrisH: how gets a process his name? |
| 16:46.43 | Wayne_ | best place you look for HOWTO's, as google returns stuff all over the place |
| 16:46.54 | somiaj | Wayne_: a very simplistic and not enterially accurate difference from what I seen. ubuntu is many times easier to set up as it does way more stuff for you automatically. debian provides a far nicer system if you take the time to configure it. |
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| 16:47.34 | somiaj | talin_: if you follow the instructions in /msg dpkg ssb -- you will actually build a .deb you can install |
| 16:47.54 | somiaj | talin_: that way if you need to upgrade, just build a new .deb with the new version with the same process and install it and dpgk will manage it for you |
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| 16:48.10 | somiaj | talin_: if you choose to install from upstream source, it will install in /usr/local -- in this case it will not conflict with debian package files |
| 16:48.40 | somiaj | talin_: in the case you prefer to install in /usr/local there is a nice piece of software called stow to manage the stuff that gets isntalled in /usr/local. -- both work very nice on debian system, which method you use is your choice. |
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| 16:48.43 | Absolute0 | Does Debian 7 make sense for a developer's workstation OS? |
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| 16:49.26 | peterrooney | talin_: e17 does not have a lot in the way of updates - the major developer focus right now seems to be e18. you're unlikely to be doing it more than once a season. |
| 16:49.54 | somiaj | Absolute0: I love my debian desktop. I think when it comes to a dev's workstation pick an os/distro you like. |
| 16:50.02 | simNIX | (somiaj, interesting sugestion stow - apreciated) |
| 16:50.28 | Absolute0 | somiaj:I am worried about browsers, X, flash--debian used to be an issue with those cutting edge apps |
| 16:50.29 | talin_ | peterrooney: ah, okay. i should try e18 then |
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| 16:50.53 | somiaj | Absolute0: non-free stuff just mainly requires you understand how debian splits away from teh main repo |
| 16:51.15 | somiaj | Absolute0: once you realize that you enable the contrib and non-free repo and installing flash and non-free graphics drives becomes fairly easy |
| 16:51.21 | peterrooney | talin_: I use 1.6. 1.7 has had all of three announcements this year. |
| 16:51.28 | somiaj | Absolute0: so again mostly a setup/configuration issue at the start. Once you do that setup it runs fine. |
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| 16:51.40 | peterrooney | 1.6 and 1.7 differ about as much as GNOME 2 and 3 differ. |
| 16:51.40 | stim | what is that? /dev/mapper/vg_target00-lv_target00 |
| 16:52.15 | Absolute0 | are dashes (-) okay for hostnames? |
| 16:52.23 | talin_ | surprises me that debian has no enlightenment-stuff at all |
| 16:52.38 | peterrooney | talin_: I wouldn't recommend that. e1.8 is not ready for prime time. |
| 16:52.42 | somiaj | Absolute0: yes |
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| 16:53.19 | peterrooney | talin_: me too. 1.7 is stable, and woelders is still actively supporting 1.6 |
| 16:53.47 | somiaj | you can try to file a wish list bug (if there isn't one) asking for an upgrade. |
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| 16:57.47 | talin_ | peterrooney: how did you install it? |
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| 16:58.40 | mcurran | Can anyone tell me a good way to find and fix a list of all my broken packages or previously held broken packages so I can purge them |
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| 16:59.37 | babilen | mcurran: "aptitude search ~b" -- historic information not available |
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| 17:05.09 | mcurran | thank you babilen, do you always use aptitude over apt-get? |
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| 17:07.59 | peterrooney | talin_: from source. whenever there was a build-fa |
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| 17:08.49 | stim | whats wrong with that command? mount -vo remount / /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro,grpjquota=aquota.group,jqfmt=vfsv0) |
| 17:08.49 | mcurran | thanks so much. Aptitude is so much better, and now I got it installing all the deps. for building vlc from source properly. Unlike apt-get which selected vlc-dmo and said it had a dependecy mess as usual, whith no solutions provided |
| 17:09.18 | mcurran | Is it true that aptitude and apt-get do not know about each others' installed packages though? |
| 17:09.37 | mcurran | I heard that if you install say gimp with apt-get, then aptitude will not know that gimp is installed |
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| 17:10.53 | zykotick9 | mcurran: both apt-get and aptitude rely on the same apt system, they're aware of one another |
| 17:11.17 | mcurran | cool I though it sounded too fishy |
| 17:11.39 | wols | mcurran: not true |
| 17:11.51 | mcurran | So does anyone have any debian distro with working gnome-shell 3.10 yet? |
| 17:11.57 | zykotick9 | wols: really? |
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| 17:12.38 | mcurran | I could care less, I'll use aptitude from now on and probably put an alias for apt-get to point to aptitude |
| 17:12.39 | peterrooney | mcurran: who told you that? |
| 17:12.42 | mcurran | if i have ot |
| 17:12.57 | stim | quotatool: Error while detecting kernel quota version: No such file or directory |
| 17:13.00 | mcurran | I don't remember, someone in some channel months ago |
| 17:13.08 | mcurran | someone like wols |
| 17:13.12 | mcurran | :) |
| 17:13.17 | babilen | mcurran: apt-get and aptitude are both tools that you want to be able to use. |
| 17:13.38 | babilen | uses apt-get by default unless aptitude super-elephant powers are needed |
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| 17:14.09 | mcurran | there was another way too to check broken packages with more low level tools too, but I've since reinstalled and don't have the logs to check what they were |
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| 17:14.14 | peterrooney | mcurran: best not to; they differ in what situations they do well in. Sometimes you will want a hammer, sometimes you will want a sledgehammer. |
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| 17:15.56 | talin_ | is there a way to see a list of window managers supported by debian? |
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| 17:16.57 | somiaj | talin_: you could use debtags and search for packages that have the tag 'x11::window-manager' |
| 17:17.04 | dondelelcaro | talin_: aptitude search '~Gx11::window-manager' |
| 17:17.15 | flos | stim, #strace -Tttfv -s 8192 -o /tmp/strace.log <your command> |
| 17:17.23 | flos | stim, and fire a bug with that log |
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| 17:17.39 | talin_ | thank you |
| 17:17.49 | peterrooney | talin_: aptitude search '~dwindow' | grep window.*manager |
| 17:18.01 | dondelelcaro | stim: is this a custom kernel or a debian kernel? |
| 17:18.58 | stim | a debian kernel |
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| 17:19.08 | no_gravity | Good Evening! |
| 17:19.47 | no_gravity | I have this in my ps aux output: |
| 17:19.49 | no_gravity | www-data 18809 0.2 0.0 0 0 ? Z 18:12 0:00 [apache2] <defunct> |
| 17:19.57 | stim | dondelelcaro:3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:20.03 | no_gravity | What is it? Can I get rid of it? |
| 17:21.18 | no_gravity | Oh, looks like it went away on its own :) |
| 17:21.42 | stim | flos: 26302 19:45:29.074458 open("/proc/fs/quota", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) <0.000069> |
| 17:21.46 | stim | is that the problem? |
| 17:21.57 | flos | stim, :) |
| 17:22.13 | flos | stim, #cat /proc/fs/quota ? |
| 17:22.15 | stim | flos but now idear to fix it |
| 17:22.26 | stim | not there |
| 17:22.31 | stim | fscache/ nfs/ nfsd/ nfsfs/ prl_fs/ |
| 17:22.50 | flos | stim, currently no idea, i would choose to report the bug with 'reportbug' tools |
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| 17:23.51 | stim | flos that couldn't be 2 or three persons would also use debian wheezy but no one can use quotas? |
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| 17:25.10 | flos | stim, i'm currently using kernel 3.10.11-1 without quota, i cannot found that file - /proc/fs/quota |
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| 17:26.13 | flos | stim, as /proc/fs/XXXX may come from kernel modules, i think you may need to report the bug to maintainer. |
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| 17:27.04 | flos | stim, please report the bug with the full strace log. |
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| 17:32.33 | jelly | stim: did you do an initial creation of quota files? |
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| 17:32.49 | jelly | stim: do they exist on the appropriate mountpoints? |
| 17:34.17 | cwong2012 | i get this after a new os install: svn: The path '.' appears to be part of a Subversion 1.7 or greater working copy. Please upgrade your Subversion client to use this working copy. |
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| 17:35.44 | cor_r | hi everyone, is there a secure way to upgrade my system to debian testing? I tried two times now and both times my system crashed |
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| 17:38.17 | babilen | mcurran: I use both aptitude and apt-get, but apt-get by default |
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| 17:40.28 | wols | cor_r: crashed how? |
| 17:40.38 | wols | cor_r: what program(s)? when? |
| 17:43.04 | cor_r | wols: I changed in sources.list to testing, after that switched to console mode and just did the upgrade and the distupgrade, but X wont start again after that. in console mode again I tried upgrading again and there were still pkgs left which I installed via upgrade -f after that the system wanted me to autoremove all mendatory packages. I tried both with and without removing, but both times I couldnt get back to X |
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| 17:44.10 | rryoumaa | here (http://sprunge.us/VjNJ) is an input/output error while doing rsync to har drive (brand new seagate backup plus usb external 4tb with cryptsetup and ext4). what does it mean? |
| 17:44.18 | rryoumaa | hard* |
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| 18:05.38 | jelly | ,v qemu |
| 18:05.39 | jordanm | ,versions qemu |
| 18:05.40 | judd | Package: qemu on i386 -- squeeze: 0.12.5+dfsg-3squeeze3; squeeze-security: 0.12.5+dfsg-3squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 1.1.2+dfsg-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.1.2+dfsg-6a; jessie: 1.7.0+dfsg-2; sid: 1.7.0+dfsg-2 |
| 18:05.53 | jelly | wins |
| 18:06.05 | jordanm | ,checkbackport qemu |
| 18:06.06 | judd | Backporting package qemu in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libseccomp-dev (>> 2.1.0) [linux-amd64 linux-i386], libspice-server-dev (>= 0.12.2~) [linux-amd64 linux-i386], libspice-protocol-dev (>= 0.12.3~) [linux-amd64 linux-i386], libusb-1.0-0-dev (>= 2:1.0.13~) [linux-any], libusbredirparser-dev (>= 0.6~) [linux-any]. |
| 18:06.17 | jelly | VoobOfDoom loses, apparently |
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| 18:08.04 | GuestO52244 | hey folks i have permanently an udp6 port which is open although i turned ipv6 off |
| 18:08.10 | rryoumaa | what is the command line equivalent of checkbackport? |
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| 18:22.09 | zophy | how can i troubleshoot my microphone not working on my lenovo idea pad, cheese works with the builtin camera, but no audio, alsamixer shows a capture device at 100% |
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| 18:34.44 | unkmar | ok, lxterminal wasn't the issue. Most of the fonts are horrible, (fuzzy). Droid Sans is clean enough. What were these people thinking. I know, Those other fonts probably look great on paper. As in, black on white instead of white on black. Cause that white on black is fuzzy. |
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| 18:37.08 | cor_r | I installed Debian testing KDE but the boot takes forever and I have no idea why. Is there a way to find out? |
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| 18:40.46 | GuestO52244 | cor_r: look at the bootlogs |
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| 18:48.26 | jelly-home | GuestO52244: how exactly did you switch ipv6 off? Read /msg dpkg noipv6 |
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| 18:49.38 | eblip1 | i put an application in my top menu bar...how do i remove it ??? |
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| 18:51.15 | Gregor2 | press alt and rightclick |
| 18:51.17 | Gregor2 | on gnome! |
| 18:51.20 | pasm | hi guys... |
| 18:51.20 | eblip1 | yes |
| 18:51.34 | eblip1 | wow its gone |
| 18:51.45 | eblip1 | thanks ....i dont know where i could have found that info |
| 18:51.59 | pasm | there is someone knowning why freeradius is not present in Jessie repo? |
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| 18:54.04 | pasm | i'd like to setup a radius server with debian, but freeradius is only available for stable release |
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| 18:56.33 | petern_ | so use the stable release. it's for a server, after all ;p |
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| 18:57.25 | pasm | petern_: yes, of course... but my question is why it has been removed |
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| 18:57.41 | pasm | petern_: there are some license issue? |
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| 18:57.56 | hobaleo | how do i know what debian version i am running? |
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| 18:58.17 | pasm | hobaleo: cat /etc/issue |
| 18:58.47 | hobaleo | ok I got debian 7... so it runs GNOME 3? |
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| 18:58.52 | pasm | hobaleo: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 19:00.03 | hobaleo | it has "gnash" in youtube... |
| 19:00.21 | unkmar | hobaleo: by default, yes. I'm using lightdm with lxde instead. |
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| 19:01.24 | unkmar | Not entirely thrilled with it. can't find the proper way to remap my CapsLock to CTRL in lightdm. I'm guessing I should use xbindkeys. |
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| 19:04.33 | antonp | I have a problem with bluetooth pairing. When using the default gui in debian jessie the bluetooth keyboard is listed, but I can't continue to pair it since the button is disabled. I've also tried one or more command-line tools without success (unfortunately I can't remember the details now). I can pair the keyboard with my other computer running the same version of Debian. Any hints on where to look? Thanks |
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| 19:05.05 | hobaleo | debian now plays mp3 by default? i thought it shunned mp3 decoding software |
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| 19:05.18 | hobaleo | sorry just testing outa fresh debian install |
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| 19:06.53 | wes_incredible | I have been experimenting with using the wl driver for my Broadcom 4312 instead of b43. The performance and reliability, so far, appear to be much better. I do not understand why, though. |
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| 19:07.37 | wols | b43 is a reverse engineered general driver, the wl is a proprietary one made by broadcom themselves |
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| 19:10.17 | wes_incredible | That probably explains a lot. I wonder why both are made available. I guess wl is probably coming from contrib or non-free, huh? |
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| 19:12.29 | slopjong | how do i make apache start on boot time? |
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| 19:15.59 | wols | slopjong: it start on boot automatically if you install the debian package |
| 19:16.10 | wols | slopjong: dpkg -l apache2 |grep apache |
| 19:16.23 | stim | hey there how to create symlink from /proc/sys/fs/quota to /proc/fs/quota ? |
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| 19:16.38 | wols | wes_incredible: yes. it's totally evil non free software. typical broadcom |
| 19:17.07 | wes_incredible | wols: If it works reliably, that's all I care about. |
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| 19:17.44 | slopjong | wols, apache is installed, that's out of the question, but for some reason it's not starting on boot |
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| 19:18.20 | jordanm | stim: you can't create symlinks in the proc filesystem, it's not a real filesystem |
| 19:18.26 | jordanm | slopjong: chkconfig apache2 on |
| 19:18.27 | slopjong | is this correct? "update-rc.d apache2 start 1 2 3 4 5 . stop 1 6" |
| 19:18.42 | slopjong | chkconfig isn't installed |
| 19:18.48 | jordanm | install it |
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| 19:24.05 | eblip | is there any way to read my password manager file on debian |
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| 19:24.27 | eblip | i have lost a password tehn changed it and saved it ...so now i have saved wrong password |
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| 19:24.40 | wes_incredible | eblip: It depends, was it keepass? |
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| 19:25.00 | eblip | its the one that comes with standard debian wheezy install |
| 19:25.01 | dumby_PC | which manager are you using? |
| 19:25.10 | dumby_PC | gnome or kde? |
| 19:25.13 | eblip | gnome |
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| 19:26.03 | dumby_PC | try this maybe |
| 19:26.04 | dumby_PC | http://blog.schmichael.com/2008/10/30/listing-all-passwords-stored-in-gnome-keyring/ |
| 19:26.09 | eblip | thanks |
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| 19:32.30 | consfearacy | how i install nvidia? I got the linux headers, and I got a "nvidia-kernel-common"... installed them with apt-get install... now reboot? |
| 19:33.53 | consfearacy | help plz |
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| 19:34.48 | babilen | consfearacy: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 19:35.20 | babilen | consfearacy: You might want to install nvidia-kernel-dkms from wheezy-backports (see http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ ) |
| 19:35.23 | consfearacy | babilen: i am there... i did what it said.. but it didnt installed any DKMS as the wiki says it would |
| 19:35.33 | slopjong | jordanm, my current runlevel is 2 in which apache2 should start as chkconfig says that it's on |
| 19:35.33 | slopjong | 0:off 1:off 2:on 3:on 4:on 5:on 6:off |
| 19:36.04 | babilen | consfearacy: Are you sure you enabled contrib and non-free in your /etc/apt/sources.list so that it looks like, for example, http://paste.debian.net/70033/ |
| 19:36.14 | slopjong | it's maybe a vagrant thing as other users seem to have similar issues |
| 19:36.28 | babilen | consfearacy: Could you paste the output of "apt-cache policy ; apt-cache policy nvidia-kernel-dkms" to http://paste.debian.net ? |
| 19:38.22 | consfearacy | babilen: i added "contrib" only... hold on plz |
| 19:38.25 | socomm | chkconfig? |
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| 19:39.46 | consfearacy | babilen: ok now it works.. my fault |
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| 19:41.06 | babilen | consfearacy: I still recommend to install the version from wheezy-backports. |
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| 19:42.20 | consfearacy | babilen: ok |
| 19:42.37 | babilen | (primarily due to performance reasons) |
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| 19:45.06 | consfearacy | babilen, ok it offered me some "conflict resolutions" and I said yes |
| 19:45.30 | babilen | consfearacy: Hmm, mind pasting your command and its output? |
| 19:45.30 | consfearacy | babilen: I had already installed them |
| 19:45.46 | consfearacy | babilen, sure, hold on |
| 19:47.23 | consfearacy | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/70195/ |
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| 19:48.22 | babilen | consfearacy: Oh, I was referring to nvidia-kernel-dkms not to the headers. You essentially tried to install the headers for the kernel in backports (which you are not using) |
| 19:48.37 | babilen | consfearacy: Well, you are using it now :) |
| 19:48.48 | consfearacy | babilen: ok then... now reboot? |
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| 19:49.46 | babilen | NO |
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| 19:50.15 | babilen | Ah well ... |
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| 20:11.42 | consfearacy | I am stuck, any help? |
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| 20:11.55 | IsoLinCHiP | Hi, does anyone know how I can supress mesages sent by the kernel to xterms? |
| 20:11.56 | babilen | consfearacy: Ah, you missed my "NO" |
| 20:12.04 | Dumby | Gregor2, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-port-scanning/ |
| 20:12.09 | jordanm | Gregor2: nmap -sS 1.1.1.1 |
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| 20:12.11 | consfearacy | babilen, I have some problems... now I am stuck on console.. |
| 20:12.16 | babilen | consfearacy: You installed the new kernel, but removed all nvidia drivers. You should pay attention to the output |
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| 20:13.05 | babilen | consfearacy: You should install your nvidia driver again (really this time) -- I never wanted you to upgrade your kernel to the one from backports, but due to you only specifying the headers and the nvidia driver you installed only the kernel. |
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| 20:13.41 | consfearacy | babilen, it says it is already installed... |
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| 20:14.02 | consfearacy | remove and install again, hold on |
| 20:14.53 | babilen | consfearacy: Well, not sure what you did in the interim, but from the paste you provided you removed the nvidia driver. Reinstall it again and then make sure to create a configuration file as detailed on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Configuration |
| 20:15.09 | babilen | (and please stop leaving the channel) |
| 20:15.31 | IsoLinCHiP | I am getting the two messages "kernel:[324418.316986] NMI: PCI system error (SERR) for reason a0 on CPU 0." and "kernel:[324418.316989] Dazed and confused, but trying to continue" spammed into every xterm on resume. A friend of mine said they just sometimes happen on a t60, and I should really worry about them, I basically just want them to go to a logfile and not have them litter every open xterm, any ideas? |
| 20:15.53 | Dumby | babilen: aaaaand he's gone, haha |
| 20:16.20 | babilen | quite |
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| 20:23.59 | consfearacy | babilen: hello again.. I have a little problem.. I installed some new kernel image from backports because I thought I should match the headers that compiled the nvidia driver... |
| 20:24.04 | blubberdiblub | IsoLinCHiP, you could decrease the kernel printk console log level. first try "echo 3 > /proc/sys/kernel/printk" and then resume a couple of times. if it helps, create a file /etc/sysctl.d/local.conf and put a line like this inside: kernel.printk = 3 |
| 20:24.27 | consfearacy | babilen: so it works fine so far, but I still cannot get X to work |
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| 20:26.20 | consfearacy | some help for the newbie? |
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| 20:26.41 | bawijama | #flood |
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| 20:27.31 | consfearacy | bawijama: Blessed are the newbie helpers |
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| 20:28.29 | consfearacy | debian blows, i am going to install slackweare |
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| 20:32.17 | jhutchins | Oh, the tragedy. However shall we recover from this devastating blow? |
| 20:32.17 | forcer | Ok. Bye! |
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| 20:33.12 | JelmerD_ | Hey guys, I have a question. I am installing Debian 7 on my VPS where during the install a "tasksell" thingy comes up where I am able to select how to configure my installation. Great, but I am unable to select a preset? I navigated (arrow keys) to i.e. Webserver and tried different keys (one of which was "Enter/Return") but I am unable to select any. |
| 20:33.31 | JelmerD_ | What is the proper key to select an option in a "debian bios checkbox environment" ? |
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| 20:34.12 | blubberdiblub | JelmerD_, space bar? |
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| 20:34.34 | JelmerD_ | blubberdiblub: didn't try that one, good call :') |
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| 20:42.20 | babilen | consfearacy: Stop leaving the channel every time! |
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| 20:42.27 | consfearacy | babilen: I had to reboot sorry |
| 20:42.39 | babilen | confearacy: Sent you this: consfearacy: Well, not sure what you did in the interim, but from the paste you provided you removed the nvidia driver. Reinstall it again and then make sure to create a configuration file as detailed on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Configuration |
| 20:42.43 | consfearacy | babilen: I thought it was necessary after installing the nvidia driver |
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| 20:43.10 | babilen | So, do that and *then* try it :) |
| 20:43.11 | eblip | test |
| 20:43.30 | consfearacy | babilen: ok I am on it |
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| 20:43.34 | babilen | eblip: PASSWORD FAILURE. PLEASE IDENTIFY |
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| 20:43.53 | eblip | is dis fraud |
| 20:43.58 | eblip | dis is fraud |
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| 20:44.16 | babilen | eblip: This is not a test channel, but a technical support channel for Debian users. Can we help you? |
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| 20:44.31 | eblip | no im testing that im in |
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| 20:46.44 | Release_ | hi all i tried to enable cron and seem ta have failed |
| 20:46.58 | JelmerD_ | Another question, installing the SSH Server, is that needed to contact the server over SSH? (port 22) ? |
| 20:47.04 | JelmerD_ | Or is SSH server something else? |
| 20:47.28 | phy1729 | JelmerD_: no; there is an ssh client and an ssh server (daemon) |
| 20:47.45 | wols | JelmerD_: yes it's needed. |
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| 20:47.52 | JelmerD_ | ok |
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| 20:48.56 | Release_ | does cron need ta be installed or does it come in package ? |
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| 20:49.47 | wols | Release_: apt-cache search cron. it comes in a .deb package |
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| 20:50.09 | Release_ | hm ok |
| 20:50.20 | wols | Release_: should also be installed by default. on a desktop which doesn't run all the time, you might want anacron however |
| 20:50.38 | Release_ | how ta do tjat wols |
| 20:50.44 | wols | just install anacron |
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| 20:51.00 | Release_ | apt-get install anacron |
| 20:51.04 | Release_ | like that right |
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| 20:52.37 | Release_ | done wols |
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| 20:52.44 | Release_ | how to enable it |
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| 20:52.59 | wols | it already is enabled |
| 20:53.25 | Release_ | ok |
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| 20:53.31 | Gregor2 | and is there a way to find out which protocolls are running on a server? |
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| 20:53.35 | Gregor2 | not the ports |
| 20:53.47 | Release_ | what does this do wols |
| 20:53.51 | Gregor2 | because you could also run a ftp server on port 1234 |
| 20:53.54 | Release_ | /etc/init.d/crond restart |
| 20:54.10 | phy1729 | Gregor2: look at the running processes? |
| 20:54.14 | wols | Gregor2: netstat -anp |grep LIST |
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| 20:54.39 | wols | Gregor2: you can see then what binaries run these ports and deduce the protocol from that |
| 20:54.45 | Release_ | how can i check wether cron is running |
| 20:54.55 | wols | Release_: ps aux |grep cron (as root) |
| 20:54.59 | Release_ | ok |
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| 21:02.55 | jhutchins | Release_: /etc/init.d/crond status? |
| 21:03.02 | AJ_Z0 | What's the interactive terminal based disk partition editor du jour on Wheezy? |
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| 21:05.02 | Dumby | I belive partman and cfdisk |
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| 21:05.35 | S0NiC | Hi |
| 21:05.36 | Gregor2 | and how can i do that? |
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| 21:06.57 | AJ_Z0 | Dumby: Thanks. cfdisk is installed on this box |
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| 21:07.06 | S0NiC | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.32 | Gregor2 | how can i see what binarys are running? |
| 21:07.41 | wols | S0NiC: then check your MTA logs if a mail was sent |
| 21:08.02 | wols | Gregor2: I gave you the command. must be run as root |
| 21:08.25 | Gregor2 | netstat? |
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| 21:08.57 | S0NiC | wols: No, no entry... |
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| 21:09.48 | S0NiC | mdadm daemon is also running |
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| 21:15.30 | Release_ | cron is not running |
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| 21:17.53 | Release_ | it seems not to ne running wols |
| 21:18.10 | wols | Release_: what is the output of the command? |
| 21:18.26 | Release_ | wich cmd? |
| 21:18.28 | wols | Release_: and what does dpkg -l |grep cron say? |
| 21:18.35 | wols | the command I gave you above |
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| 21:19.05 | Release_ | ii anacron 2.3-19 amd64 cron-like program that doesn't go by time |
| 21:19.17 | Release_ | and |
| 21:19.18 | Release_ | ii cron 3.0pl1-124 amd64 process scheduling daemon |
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| 21:20.18 | wols | Release_: 20 minutes ago I gave you a command to run |
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| 21:20.48 | Release_ | ps aux |grep cron |
| 21:20.57 | Release_ | this one right |
| 21:21.27 | Release_ | root 11699 0.0 0.6 18832 908 ? Ss 03:25 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron |
| 21:21.39 | Release_ | gave me this |
| 21:21.39 | wols | so cron is obviously running |
| 21:21.46 | Release_ | hm |
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| 21:23.01 | Release_ | https://dpaste.de/I8qR |
| 21:23.04 | Release_ | wols |
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| 21:23.16 | Release_ | can you check if i done correct |
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| 21:25.14 | Release_ | cause it doesnt seem ta execute |
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| 21:28.49 | Release_ | i seen i had wrong file name |
| 21:28.52 | Release_ | changed it |
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| 21:30.53 | Release_ | still doesnt execute |
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| 21:31.12 | Release_ | if set it to check every minute |
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| 21:32.13 | Release_ | what did i mis ? |
| 21:32.29 | Nik05 | nothing? |
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| 21:36.53 | ompaul | a value less than zero |
| 21:36.57 | ompaul | -0 |
| 21:37.30 | ompaul | Release_: if you want to run it every minute you do * * * * * that's every minute |
| 21:37.51 | ompaul | Release_: what you have there will never work |
| 21:37.57 | ompaul | it doesn't exist |
| 21:38.11 | ompaul | crontab does not resolve values lower than a minute |
| 21:38.35 | Release_ | ah ok |
| 21:38.44 | Release_ | so have ta set it like 2 minutes |
| 21:38.54 | Release_ | whats minimum ? |
| 21:39.12 | Release_ | ah my bad you already said |
| 21:39.20 | Release_ | i ll make that 2 min |
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| 21:41.11 | ompaul | make it every minutes |
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| 21:41.47 | Release_ | didnt i do that ompaul |
| 21:42.13 | Release_ | */1 * * * * /home/simo/bopm/check.sh >/dev/null 2>&1 |
| 21:42.16 | ompaul | no |
| 21:42.18 | Release_ | what does this mean ? |
| 21:42.19 | ompaul | that does not exist |
| 21:42.25 | Release_ | hm |
| 21:42.26 | ompaul | it just doesn't work |
| 21:42.37 | Release_ | how to check every minute |
| 21:42.40 | S0NiC | * * * * * /home/simo/bopm/check.sh >/dev/null 2>&1 |
| 21:42.42 | S0NiC | like this |
| 21:42.44 | ctmjr | Release_: this is not every minute */1 |
| 21:42.49 | Release_ | ah |
| 21:42.52 | Release_ | ok |
| 21:43.08 | ompaul | I already said that |
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| 21:43.24 | S0NiC | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.58 | Release_ | ah ok |
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| 21:45.49 | Release_ | still doesnt execute |
| 21:46.16 | S0NiC | Release_: whats the rights of this script? |
| 21:46.49 | Release_ | i didnt set that S0NiC |
| 21:46.52 | Release_ | hm |
| 21:46.58 | Release_ | the permissions ? |
| 21:47.02 | S0NiC | Release_: yes |
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| 21:47.08 | Release_ | ok i ll check |
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| 21:48.28 | antithesis_ | Is it possible to list all the packages I have explicitly installed (ignoring the dependencies that came along with them)? |
| 21:48.39 | Release_ | nice |
| 21:48.46 | Release_ | it executed |
| 21:48.49 | Release_ | tnx guys |
| 21:48.59 | S0NiC | Release_: ? |
| 21:49.02 | Release_ | it was indeed the permissions S0NiC |
| 21:49.04 | S0NiC | What was wrong? |
| 21:49.09 | S0NiC | ;) |
| 21:49.22 | Release_ | tnx bro |
| 21:49.33 | S0NiC | Np |
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| 21:51.06 | Release_ | and also how does it work to let it work on reboot S0NiC |
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| 21:54.25 | telmich | good evening |
| 21:54.37 | telmich | I am trying to understand post-up/up in debian, when using the "manual" method |
| 21:55.05 | telmich | what I don't exactly get from the manpage is, is something like "ip link set $IFACE up" executed in the manual case? |
| 21:55.16 | S0NiC | Release_: Should work without any changes |
| 21:55.31 | telmich | background: I do have eth0 in br0 configured and want to execute /sbin/ethtool -s $IFACE wol g on eth0 at startup |
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| 21:55.54 | Release_ | nice |
| 21:56.18 | telmich | but it seems that iface eth0 inet manual \n post-up /sbin/ethtool -s $IFACE wol g does not execute the post-up |
| 21:56.26 | Release_ | tnx again S0NiC and the rest who helped out |
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| 21:58.25 | vampi-the-frog | hi guys. I have a Mobile Broadband card in my laptop, along with a SIM module, and it connects fine using gnome, but I'd like it to connect at startup. Before you say anything about costs, I'm using this connection only in case the laptop gets stolen and I need to track it with Prey, so there won't be much traffic. |
| 21:58.54 | vampi-the-frog | so any idea how I can make it connect automatically (and preferrably, quietly) |
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| 22:04.16 | dondelelcaro | vampi-the-frog: apparently, you can select "available to all users" and it will be set up before you login |
| 22:04.27 | dondelelcaro | vampi-the-frog: in the network manager configuration |
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| 22:05.17 | dondelelcaro | vampi-the-frog: alternatively, you might need to set autoconnect=TRUE in the configuration file for that interface |
| 22:05.26 | vampi-the-frog | okay, that sounds good |
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| 22:05.52 | vampi-the-frog | but 1. How do i get to the NetworkManager config and 2. Where can I find the config file? |
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| 22:09.00 | vampi-the-frog | is it in /etc/NetworkManager? |
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| 22:12.25 | wizkid057 | so how can I get debian installed on a netbook that has only a UEFI option (secure boot is disabled) |
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| 22:13.47 | wols | wizkid057: from what you wrote earlier, it's a pure hardware problem were the netbook never even looks at the usb stick |
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| 22:15.11 | wizkid057 | wols: dunno... if I go to the "bios" (if its called that still) I can actually browse the USB stick and choose the debian boot efi |
| 22:15.19 | wizkid057 | it just doesnt load it |
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| 22:15.47 | wols | debian installer doesn't use efi. |
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| 22:16.02 | wols | what netbook is it? |
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| 22:18.02 | wizkid057 | wols: Gateway LT41P04u |
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| 22:19.19 | wols | wizkid057: shitty acer. always acer making problems :( |
| 22:19.59 | wizkid057 | :-\ |
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| 22:21.17 | wizkid057 | wols: any suggestions besides throwing it out a window? |
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| 22:22.16 | wols | look for a distro with EFI installer? installing via debootstrap? installing on the hdd outside the laptop? |
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| 22:23.32 | wizkid057 | I had thought of option 3... hadnt considered 1 or 2 though |
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| 22:24.00 | wols | before you do anything on that hdd: make a full image backup! |
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| 22:24.22 | wizkid057 | i dont really care about windows or anything on the machine, or if it ever works again |
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| 22:25.20 | poorrick | Aannybody know wwhenre I can look for what's causing keyboard problems? |
| 22:25.25 | wizkid057 | i picked it up specifically to wipe it and put debian on it |
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| 22:31.30 | IsoLinCHiP | blubberdiblub: thx for the tip, I have meanwhile tracked it to the rsyslog.conf file that states *.emerg be sent to all users (:omusrmsg:*). It now took me a coule hours to figure out the filtering syntax to ignore those two error messages :-/ But at least now its solved, thanks for the pointer in the right direction. |
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| 22:37.45 | xiong | Hi. I'm looking at 'zabbix' and I think it may be a bit overpowered for my needs; and also it's not in wheezy. Is there anything you guys would like to recommend? |
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| 22:38.06 | vampi-the-frog | dondelelcaro, thanks, that kind of worked |
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| 22:47.27 | pbodymind | hello... how do I setup ftp protocol handler in spacefm ? |
| 22:47.46 | pbodymind | i keep getting this error: Failed to parse arguments: Option "--disable-factory" is no longer supported in this version of gnome-terminal. |
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| 22:51.03 | xiong | Does anyone here use any sort of software to monitor servers? |
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| 22:51.34 | Dan39 | xiong: google it, there is a pretty popular free one many use |
| 22:52.13 | pbodymind | xiong: if u find tell me! :o |
| 22:52.42 | xiong | Well, yes, Dan39; there might be many. It looks as if zabbix is very popular and it is free libre. I'm asking what people here like; I value your opinions. |
| 22:53.05 | Dan39 | right now for myself i just have a bash script for couple things where it pings/tests the service and emails me what is not working |
| 22:53.09 | jhutchins | nagios, icinga |
| 22:53.21 | Dan39 | since my email goes straight to my phone and makes an alert, i like it :P |
| 22:54.13 | Dan39 | tho i saw a quite nice one in past that was an actual program which id think may have email notifications |
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| 22:54.47 | xiong | That's not my purpose. I need to produce a log file to benchmark the services I'm testing. |
| 22:55.10 | felco | let ask something... is mandatory to www-data to have a shell? or can I set it to /bin/false? |
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| 22:55.53 | Dan39 | nagios, i think thats it... |
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| 22:56.21 | xiong | Um, if it's not clear... I'm testing something else; I'd like the monitor to be simple and reliable because I don't want to get lost, testing the monitor itself. |
| 22:56.45 | cor_r | where do I find the boot.log in debian? and also my USB devices wont be recognized, what do I have to post so you can help me? |
| 22:56.56 | Dan39 | cor_r: maybe just look at dmesg? |
| 22:57.50 | cor_r | Dan39: the devices are found, but wont show up on folder list for me to open |
| 22:58.36 | xiong | I see 'nagios3' is in wheezy; that's good. |
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| 23:00.44 | Dan39 | cor_r: in your file manager you mean? |
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| 23:01.06 | Dan39 | what DE? |
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| 23:01.53 | cor_r | Dan39: yes , in my file manager, it's KDE on Debian testing |
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| 23:02.16 | Dan39 | i'd just be googling myself from here on |
| 23:02.30 | cor_r | Dan39: ok thanks anyways :) |
| 23:02.30 | petn-randall | xiong: Go with either nagios or icinga. The checks you can find on nagios exchange or monitoring exchange are compatible with both. |
| 23:02.31 | Dan39 | id look into kde auto mounting removable media |
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| 23:02.50 | petn-randall | xiong: IMO the other options aren't that interesting. |
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| 23:03.13 | xiong | looks, petn-randall |
| 23:03.57 | cor_r | Dan39: yeah, it was an automount problem, just found it through your advice. thx a bunch |
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| 23:05.18 | Dan39 | \o/ wooo i actually helped somebody? :D |
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| 23:05.55 | pbodymind | \o/ |
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| 23:11.28 | pbodymind | i solved my problem with spacefm.. by using MountShare instead of mnttools!! ^^ |
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| 23:25.36 | jesther | Where can I find the LAMP stack for install? |
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| 23:25.52 | jesther | I can't locate it on the website. |
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| 23:25.56 | babilen | dpkg: tell jesther -about lamp |
| 23:26.52 | babilen | jesther: Just install whatever you consider to be part of LAMP -- I guess that you have L already, so take it from there. I'd also choose postgresql, but that would make it LAPP. I would also think of the P as Python, so .. |
| 23:27.25 | jesther | Tnx. |
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| 23:39.41 | talin_ | which window managers are you guys using? is xfce any good? |
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| 23:40.37 | raSter^ | do you guys here support Debian GNU/kFreeBSD kernel? |
| 23:40.52 | teraflop | talin: good enough but DE/WM is a personal choice |
| 23:40.56 | dondelelcaro | raSter^: yes, but perhaps not well. |
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| 23:41.59 | raSter^ | had you tried it already dondelelcaro? |
| 23:42.50 | dondelelcaro | raSter^: no |
| 23:43.01 | talin | teraflop: DE? WM is windowmaker, right? |
| 23:44.01 | dondelelcaro | talin: WM is window manager; DE is desktop environment |
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| 23:44.19 | dondelelcaro | (window maker is a WM, though) |
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| 23:45.05 | teraflop | i meant window manager & desktop environment talin |
| 23:45.18 | talin | aah, okay |
| 23:45.30 | talin | i guess i'll stick with blackbox as usual... |
| 23:45.39 | talin | really boring, but really lightweight |
| 23:46.12 | teraflop | talin: personal as i said |
| 23:46.33 | talin | teraflop: i see. thank you |
| 23:46.38 | teraflop | yw |
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| 23:47.11 | \\tau | hello. i wanna see the path of a packet between two ips, in this case, me and other ip. |
| 23:47.17 | talin | are there any window managers that are scriptable, such that you can record events and replay them? like "put the window with this name in focus and insert a particular username and password into it"? |
| 23:47.19 | \\tau | i forgot which is the command. |
| 23:47.28 | talin | \\tau: traceroute? |
| 23:47.32 | \\tau | yes. |
| 23:47.34 | \\tau | thanks man. |
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| 23:48.09 | raSter^ | talin: is blackbox the fastest desktop environment and ligthest to be with using debian? |
| 23:48.42 | talin | raSter^: i've no idea. with today's hardware, it should be more than fast enough. there are some even older ones that are probably more lightweight. icewm or something |
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| 23:49.21 | raSter^ | is that kind of install talin. much more lighter than lets say.. a windows XP? |
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| 23:50.14 | talin | raSter^: i suppose it depends on what sort of resource consumption you're looking at. memory or cpu? i think 98% of them are more lightweight than windows xp though |
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| 23:59.10 | rryoumaa | twm will be light on resources |
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