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| 00:00.36 | themill | dpkg: tell xiong about apt-file |
| 00:01.28 | xiong | looks |
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| 00:05.46 | Harm133 | Hey guys, I have a question about partitions. I've just increased the maximum size of my virtual hard disk to 4TB inside my vmware. Although, can I and if so, how, resize the partition in debian itself (The system and / is installed on another virtual HDD) |
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| 00:16.17 | xiong | Ah, /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ contains only symlinks to /etc/apache2/mods-available. According to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf this is specifically a Debian setup. Why is this done? Is it intended that I edit the target of a symlink or that I replace the symlink with an edited copy of the target? |
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| 00:17.37 | jerichowasahoax | If I use KDE's System Settings program to change my KDM configuration, KDM doesn't reflect these changes, even though I'm putting in my root password OK. Is there a serious problem or do I just need to install something? |
| 00:17.53 | themill | xiong: you'd use a2enmod to enable the module and a2dismod to disable it. There needs to be a programmatic way of enabling and disabling modules and not just having apache use every module just because it is available on disk. |
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| 00:18.54 | xiong | Ah, themill. So it's not intended that I edit anything directly or fiddle with the links; I need to master a2*mod instead? |
| 00:19.40 | xiong | Thanks; I'm educated. |
| 00:19.42 | themill | there's not much to master; "a2enmod rewrite" .. tab completion even works. |
| 00:20.17 | xiong | Every little wrinkle helps. By default, I read the manpage before I do anything unfamiliar. |
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| 00:20.46 | nimitz | is there a place to see how the repo icon/cursor themes look? |
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| 00:21.55 | xiong | BTW, I've managed to answer my previous question: mod_rewrite is in the basic apache2 package. It's just not enabled. Thanks for the previous tip; installing that tool will pay off again. |
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| 00:27.22 | xreal | Does anyone know a package with many build dependencies ? |
| 00:28.04 | Penix | yes |
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| 00:28.39 | maisy | got volume button (master muted) and won't play anything regardless of turning the switch up and down, my os is debian jessie using xfce desktop |
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| 00:29.55 | xreal | Penix: which 1 ? |
| 00:30.27 | maisy | xfce 4.10 |
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| 00:36.59 | maisy | fixed using amixer -D pulse set Master 1+ unmute |
| 00:37.08 | maisy | :) |
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| 00:42.18 | Harm133 | No-one for my issue tho :)? |
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| 00:48.41 | themill | xreal: I assume you didn't like the existing checkbackport command I pointed you at? |
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| 00:52.23 | banshe3 | Should add thats its a virtual box |
| 00:53.30 | nimitz | how do you change the mousewheel speed in a barebones gtk2 env |
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| 01:17.40 | banshe3 | Hello |
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| 01:19.12 | xreal | themill: I do. But I can't use script access to judd. |
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| 01:19.23 | Nonsense_ | So, I'm messing with an old etch distribution (for some embedded, ancient stuff), I'm trying to get a gcc 3x version from one of the etch ISOs. I understand the packages are organized based on 'popularity'. Is there a global manifest file I can find out which CD ISO I should grab? |
| 01:19.32 | themill | xreal: there's a command-line version too |
| 01:19.50 | xreal | themill: it's incomplete. checkbackport isn't integrated by now. |
| 01:20.06 | xreal | themill: also, it needs a local database (see readme). |
| 01:20.06 | themill | what do you mean? |
| 01:20.15 | xreal | themill: the CLI version doesn't have checkbackport. |
| 01:20.32 | themill | yes it does, and you can use a remote db |
| 01:20.43 | xreal | themill: then it's time to update git. |
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| 01:21.07 | xreal | themill: or could you point me to the correct files please? |
| 01:22.21 | xreal | themill: I can find this one only. http://git.nanonanonano.net/?p=judd.git;a=blob;f=supybot/plugins/Judd/plugin.py |
| 01:22.22 | themill | «./udd-cache checkbackport $package --verbose» should work just fin |
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| 01:22.48 | xreal | themill: do I need superbot for that? |
| 01:22.51 | themill | no |
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| 01:23.20 | themill | (that module needs to be split out to a separate repo some time) |
| 01:23.22 | xreal | funny, since there's no documentation on anything, it's hard to figure out. |
| 01:23.31 | xreal | not a single line has a comment :) |
| 01:23.37 | themill | lies |
| 01:24.27 | xreal | check the "readme": http://git.nanonanonano.net/?p=judd.git;a=blob;f=supybot/plugins/Judd/uddcache/README |
| 01:24.39 | themill | I know what is in the README. |
| 01:24.49 | themill | (and you might like to look in the directory above) |
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| 01:25.10 | xreal | themill: I did. Not a single word about a CLI interface. |
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| 01:25.42 | xreal | my own script is working *very* well know and doesn't need a big databse. It's not that fast, since I am working on files, but I'll update it to sqlite soon. |
| 01:25.44 | themill | I'm sure patches would be gratefully accepted ;) |
| 01:26.05 | xreal | themill: UDD is too much for me, since it contains all the bug reports or whatever. |
| 01:26.36 | themill | UDD doesn't need to contain anything you don't want it to |
| 01:26.55 | themill | You can only import amd64 Packages and Sources if that's all you want. |
| 01:29.29 | xreal | themill: I'll test my solution against UDD soon :) |
| 01:29.54 | xreal | Do you know a package with many build dependencies ? |
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| 01:32.16 | themill | xreal: uddcache's fairly extensive test suite has some good examples that will test out your code (e.g. arch-dependent build-deps, virtual build-deps). test_package_queries.py |
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| 01:46.38 | arafangion | Do EFI boot volumes need to be vfat? |
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| 02:05.02 | xreal | Can DPKG convert those "fancy" version numbers to normal ones? |
| 02:05.25 | Penix | xreal: fancy? |
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| 02:05.43 | xreal | Penix: 1:1.2.3dmpf+2-1 to 1.2.3 |
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| 02:06.06 | arafangion | xreal: What's a "normal" one? |
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| 02:06.28 | xreal | arafangion: 1.2.3 ... I try to download the corresponding DSC from the Debian website. |
| 02:06.30 | Penix | xreal: any reason why? everything after '1.2.3' is just a debian-specific build number |
| 02:06.43 | xreal | Penix. see answer to arafangion |
| 02:06.55 | Penix | xreal: you could use some regex magic if you want to parse them |
| 02:07.49 | xreal | Penix: I thought, dpkg could do that. |
| 02:08.02 | themill | xreal: there's nothing unreal about that version number. That *is* the version number of the package |
| 02:08.09 | arafangion | xreal: So you mean "major version.minor version.build version" or what? |
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| 02:08.45 | Penix | xreal: if you want the dsc file for some reason, download it. it's going to have the same version number (with the build info attached) |
| 02:08.50 | xreal | themail: so, if there is a tilde in the version, it's also on the DSC ? |
| 02:08.59 | Penix | eg, vim_7.3.547-7.dsc |
| 02:09.07 | themill | xreal: to get the dsc, you probably should use either apt-get source or debsnap to get it |
| 02:09.30 | xreal | themill: I'm currently using cygwin (sorry!) |
| 02:09.32 | themill | xreal: or, since you are already parsing the Sources files, look up this info from the Sources file. |
| 02:09.34 | nimitz | i need libs for making a project, can i just do apt-get sources libname? |
| 02:09.38 | arafangion | Penix: His real question is probably: "How do I know if this is a newer version than that other release?" |
| 02:09.42 | xreal | themill: it |
| 02:09.44 | xreal | damn |
| 02:09.47 | xreal | themill: it's not inside :( |
| 02:09.59 | themill | xreal: eh? |
| 02:10.15 | xreal | themill: i am working on these ones: http://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages?format=txt.gz |
| 02:10.16 | arafangion | Penix: Unless he's confused with cygwin... I have no idea now! :) |
| 02:10.19 | Penix | nimitz: depends. do you want the source for that library? or do you want to build something that depends on that library? |
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| 02:10.37 | nimitz | oh, thanks |
| 02:10.43 | themill | xreal: that's not the Sources file. |
| 02:10.47 | xreal | themill: yep |
| 02:10.53 | xreal | themill: I know |
| 02:10.58 | themill | xreal: you should use the Sources file... |
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| 02:11.14 | xreal | themill: which one? |
| 02:11.30 | themill | xreal: the one for whichever release+component you are interested in |
| 02:11.48 | themill | xreal: I assumed you were doing this already to get the Build-Depends information |
| 02:12.15 | xreal | themill: I'm getting these from the DSC files. |
| 02:12.25 | themill | ah.. crazy |
| 02:12.26 | xreal | Oops, found a bug on the website: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList => http://http |
| 02:13.24 | xreal | nah, I'm tired |
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| 02:15.11 | xreal | themill: these? http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/contrib/source/ |
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| 02:19.37 | LVLAaron | on wheezy, how can i see which repo a package will be installed from? |
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| 02:21.20 | Penix | LVLAaron: apt-cache policy |
| 02:21.40 | Tylertwo | Hey, I'm trying to connect to a WPA2 secured wifi network via the network interfaces file and ifup/down. The relevant part of the interfaces file: iface eth1 inet dhcp -- wpa-ssid id -- add wpa-psk pass. New lines seperated by "--" and the words id and pass being replaced by the ESSID and password. My password does have spaces in it - could that be an issue? When I run the ifup I get the error: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument. And it doe |
| 02:23.24 | rryoumaa | in the release announcement, it says "There is no need to throw away old `wheezy' CDs or DVDs but only to update via an up-to-date Debian mirror after an installation, to cause any out of date packages to be updated." however, doesn't the installation cd automatically update? (or does it?) |
| 02:23.55 | Penix | rryoumaa: no |
| 02:24.03 | Penix | rryoumaa: a wheezy install cd will install wheezy |
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| 02:24.33 | Penix | rryoumaa: oh, you mean updates for wheezy? |
| 02:24.52 | Penix | like security updates |
| 02:25.24 | arafangion | Penix: You can install wheezy if you prefer, and _then_ update, manually. |
| 02:25.37 | mcurran | well they changed testing/rolling to jessie, so that might be an issue. |
| 02:25.47 | Penix | arafangion: yes, that's why I'm trying to figure out exactly what rryoumaa means |
| 02:25.59 | arafangion | Penix: Sorry I should leave you that. |
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| 02:26.27 | Penix | rryoumaa: if you configure network settings and specify a remote mirror, then, yes, IIRC it can pull security updates from within the installer |
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| 02:27.45 | Penix | rryoumaa: if you mean "update" to a newer/different release, then, no, it won't pull anything that's not in wheezy |
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| 02:28.25 | nimitz | whats the common way of "overwriting" a program you built yourself from one of many programs in a suite |
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| 02:28.34 | nimitz | just copy over the binary? |
| 02:28.47 | arafangion | nimitz: "overwriting" - do you not mean just that? |
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| 02:29.08 | nimitz | yeah, wondering if it will cause problems with aptitude or something |
| 02:29.11 | nimitz | checksums etc |
| 02:29.27 | Toddy | yes |
| 02:29.39 | Penix | nimitz: you've got an application installed via debian package, and want to install the same app from source? |
| 02:29.54 | nimitz | yeah, but only one of the app from a package which has many |
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| 02:30.57 | Penix | nimitz: pretty good chance you'll run in to problems, but, yes, you could simply replace the binary. I'd probably move the original and symlink to the new one though |
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| 02:33.35 | nimitz | wont moving then symlink give you the same problems with apt |
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| 02:34.17 | Penix | I wouldn't do it for apt/dpkg reasons. just so I could easily switch back without much effort |
| 02:34.28 | rryoumaa | Penix: arafangion i am referring to making an old cd of wheezy up to date. i would think that wheezy would do so automatically on every installation. is this not the case? |
| 02:35.01 | Penix | rryoumaa: I still don't understand what you mean. you can't change what's on the cd |
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| 02:35.11 | Penix | rryoumaa: whatever is on the cd will be installed |
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| 02:35.42 | arafangion | rryoumaa: Are you asking if wheezy would automatically burn a new CD on every installation, containing the up-to-date binaries? |
| 02:36.18 | rryoumaa | Penix: we are having communication issues. you have a cd, say rc1 or the first or second release. you put it in your computer. you install. what are you left with? something insecure unless you manually update? that would suck. if /not/, then the release announcement is slightly misleading, ambiguously implying that you have to do so manually. |
| 02:36.47 | Penix | rryoumaa: if you install from a '7.0' cd, you will get 7.0 |
| 02:37.09 | rryoumaa | Penix: and it won't update security stuff automatically? you have to issue apt-get update yourself? |
| 02:37.19 | rryoumaa | even the netinst? |
| 02:37.44 | rryoumaa | suppose you install a months-old netinst and forget to update for a week. |
| 02:38.08 | arafangion | rryoumaa: I will shoot the man who does an update on my system the night before I have a project due. |
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| 02:39.14 | rryoumaa | so stable /really does/ mean unchanging, even if that means security updates at installation time :/ |
| 02:39.30 | rryoumaa | of course, it could ask you |
| 02:39.58 | rryoumaa | (or recommend that you do so at the login prompt) |
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| 02:45.00 | arafangion | Penix: He might've been happier if you pointed out that security updates continue to get applied to '7.0', if they are still being maintained. |
| 02:45.17 | arafangion | 7.0's what? oldstable? oldoldstable? |
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| 02:52.11 | sabotender | Greetings |
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| 02:53.14 | sabotender | Does anyone know what video driver that will work for a samsung galaxy S III |
| 02:53.28 | sabotender | I tried to install Gnome 3, but it complains that there is no screen |
| 02:53.55 | sabotender | I did a little bit of research and found that 'no screen' means that I may not have any video drivers installed |
| 02:56.46 | bitgeek | repost: I am trying to torrent and seed debian-7.2.0-i386-CD-3.iso but get this error in rtorrent "Tracker: [Failure reason "torrent not found"]" from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.2.0/i386/bt-dvd/, anyone else? |
| 02:56.49 | bitgeek | repost: this also debian-update-7.2.0-i386-DVD-1.iso failed with same error |
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| 03:01.24 | rryoumaa | back |
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| 03:02.04 | rryoumaa | 7.0 is wheezy, isn't it? |
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| 03:02.38 | LtL | rryoumaa: yes it is |
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| 03:03.10 | rryoumaa | was referring to the bit of scrollback that i have by arafangion |
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| 03:03.30 | rryoumaa | 19:45 <arafangion> Penix: He might've been happier if you pointed out that security updates continue to get applied to '7.0', if they are still being maintained. -- dunno if he was talking about my question or not |
| 03:03.44 | rryoumaa | (i had to power cycle) |
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| 03:04.41 | fireant | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.44 | LtL | rryoumaa: wheezy's 3rd update 7.3 was just released today. http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20131214 |
| 03:05.06 | fireant | cdrom and hda are missing in /dev folder, any idea why? |
| 03:05.14 | rryoumaa | LtL: yeah that is what prompted my question |
| 03:05.24 | LtL | rryoumaa: 10-4 |
| 03:05.50 | LtL | fireant: check dmesg for anything mysterious |
| 03:05.59 | rryoumaa | the announcement seems to suggest that there is no update, even of security stuff, on old wheezy isos, upon installation |
| 03:06.11 | fireant | LtL: already did, nothing there :( |
| 03:06.13 | rryoumaa | yet installation does not seem to say that you need to update |
| 03:06.56 | rryoumaa | i think for new users, it should either update automatically or tell the user to do an update to get security updates |
| 03:07.03 | rryoumaa | (i.e. immediately) |
| 03:08.12 | LtL | fireant: does fdisk -l show hda |
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| 03:10.26 | LtL | rryoumaa: i'm still using gnome 2, ive never put off a dist-upgrade for years until gnome3 came along, i would think it has an update-notifier |
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| 03:10.37 | jesther | How do I access phpMyAdmin? |
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| 03:11.48 | LtL | jesther: try the docs in /usr/share/php* something or other name, i can't help you there, been to long |
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| 03:12.42 | nimitz | is there a tool/command for color testing the tty/terminal |
| 03:12.49 | nimitz | something that would show all 16 colors |
| 03:12.50 | LtL | rryoumaa: same goes for the other DE's |
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| 03:14.20 | fireant | LtL: no, its debian installer but in monitor mode i can see id1-cd0 and id0-hd0 with info block |
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| 03:17.27 | LtL | fireant: so .. you're in the installer and something isn't happening or what? |
| 03:18.20 | LtL | fireant: i'm befuddled /dev/ populates once the system boots into the finished install |
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| 03:21.45 | LtL | fireant: i'm sorry, i don't quite understand what you're doing |
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| 03:25.17 | Guest44636 | hi |
| 03:25.24 | Guest44636 | can anyone help me install firefox? |
| 03:25.43 | Guest44636 | iceweasel has a bug when I use it ... I have to keep changing network settings whenever I start iceweasel |
| 03:26.03 | themill | changing the icon is unlikely to change that behaviour |
| 03:26.34 | Guest44636 | what else can i do? |
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| 03:27.01 | themill | Guest44636: which iceweasel version are you using? |
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| 03:27.06 | Guest44636 | it might help? I tried add-ons that would work in firefox but not iceweasel |
| 03:27.10 | Guest44636 | 25 |
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| 03:39.35 | zykotick9 | fireant: 1) isn't it ".. -boot d .." and 2) is oses/ and images/ under your current directory? |
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| 03:46.06 | fireant | zykotick9: it boots fine images are listed in monitor mode with info block as ide0-cd0 and ide1-hd0 |
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| 04:05.32 | Hippo | Hey guys. I had a clean install, followed the debian wiki to install the nvidia drivers and bumblebee, and now all i get is terminal interface (tty1) or whatever you call it :/ |
| 04:06.20 | Hippo | And i have googled around for hours but cant seem to find anything! |
| 04:06.40 | ectospasm | Hippo: did you install a graphical desktop environment (DE)? |
| 04:07.03 | ectospasm | aka, GNOME, KDE, Xfce, LXDE, fluxbox, openbox, etc... |
| 04:08.32 | Hippo | Yeah.. And it was working before i installed the nvidia stuff |
| 04:09.10 | ectospasm | Hippo: which package did you install? |
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| 04:09.25 | ectospasm | Hippo: which *nvidia* package did you install? |
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| 04:10.56 | Hippo | I followed the third post on this page http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=108657 |
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| 04:11.30 | Hippo | I also tried this one https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_304.88 |
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| 04:11.57 | ectospasm | Hippo: the official Debian wiki didn't work for you? https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 04:12.40 | Hippo | No, it states Please note that this command will break your Xorg configuration on Optimus systems. For such hardware, see Bumblebee instead. |
| 04:12.52 | Hippo | So i did that as well.. |
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| 04:15.12 | ectospasm | Hippo: is it giving you any of the error messages, like when you run optirun, as the Bumblebee wiki page says? |
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| 04:16.24 | Hippo | Yeah, "bumblebee daemon has not started yet".. That is because im in a comand line mode and not gnome |
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| 04:17.11 | Hippo | So that goes back to my first issue, how do i repair my xserver to get into gnome |
| 04:17.18 | ectospasm | did you restart the bumblebee daemon? |
| 04:17.33 | ectospasm | Hippo: it can't start because your graphics stuff is hosed |
| 04:20.12 | Hippo | Yeah, "Restarting bumblebeed:bumblebeed failed! |
| 04:20.38 | ectospasm | I dunno if it writes to a log somwhere, but I'd check that. |
| 04:20.46 | ectospasm | seems to be lower level than X.org |
| 04:22.01 | Hippo | Bleak days : |
| 04:23.45 | Hippo | I have reinstalled debian twice today, fml |
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| 04:35.48 | pbk829 | is it normal for a wifi adapter to not be able to connect/maintain connection to a wifi network unless the signal strength is at least ~70% (or -60dBm)? |
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| 04:38.14 | wols | preller: and in linux, realtek wlan is simply shit |
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| 04:39.22 | nfearnley | I'm trying to setup a custom modeline in xorg, but there doesn't appear to be an xorg.conf. There's an /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d now. None of the files inside seem to refer to the Monitor section. How can I create one? |
| 04:39.47 | wols | you create one with an editor |
| 04:40.03 | wols | and yes, xorg.conf.d is where most xorg.conf data now resides and you should use that |
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| 04:42.12 | nfearnley | I need to refer to existing video device identifier. How can I find that out? It looks like it's being create dynamically? |
| 04:42.17 | nfearnley | *created |
| 04:44.00 | wols | nfearnley: it's normally depending on your PCI slot. 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices |
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| 04:53.00 | docbook_gal | hello |
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| 04:54.01 | docbook_gal | hey peeps what version is the docbook tools in wheezy? |
| 04:54.10 | docbook_gal | are they version 5? |
| 04:54.21 | wols | ,v dockbook |
| 04:54.22 | judd | No package named 'dockbook' was found in i386. |
| 04:54.23 | wols | ,v docbook |
| 04:54.24 | judd | Package: docbook on i386 -- squeeze: 4.5-4; jessie: 4.5-5.1; sid: 4.5-5.1; wheezy: 4.5-5.1 |
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| 04:54.43 | dvs | ,v docbook |
| 04:54.44 | judd | Package: docbook on i386 -- squeeze: 4.5-4; jessie: 4.5-5.1; sid: 4.5-5.1; wheezy: 4.5-5.1 |
| 04:55.00 | docbook_gal | :( |
| 04:55.20 | docbook_gal | that sucks |
| 04:55.29 | docbook_gal | they revamped with version 5.. |
| 04:55.35 | docbook_gal | I dont want to learn the old one.. |
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| 04:55.49 | wols | compile it yourself? |
| 04:56.05 | docbook_gal | i could |
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| 04:57.43 | ddasd | hey guys I have a frusurating problem |
| 04:58.15 | ddasd | I am using tails debian and I am trying to format my HD in live mode.. it asks for administrator password and I never made one in the first place |
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| 05:06.24 | peterrooney | ddasd: /msg dpkg based on debian |
| 05:06.59 | nfearnley | How can I determine the default Device being used by Xorg? The config files don't have one set, but I need to add an option, so I need to add a device entry. |
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| 05:11.29 | wols | nfearnley: Xorg.0.log |
| 05:11.48 | nfearnley | I'm trying to read the logs, what am I looking for exactly? |
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| 05:12.28 | wols | nfearnley: how many videocards do you have? |
| 05:12.38 | wols | and how many displays? |
| 05:12.58 | nfearnley | 2 videos card, with 3 outputs each. I'm only using one display though. |
| 05:13.05 | nfearnley | *video cards |
| 05:13.33 | wols | then they do you care about IDs? there is only one to use. what videocards? |
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| 05:14.27 | nfearnley | I just need to add the IgnoreEDID option to the Device section. I need to figure out what the current device settings are the for Device section, so I can recreate it. |
| 05:14.39 | nfearnley | I have no idea what driver it's picking up, or what else I need to set. |
| 05:15.47 | nfearnley | I guess determining the driver is really the only thing I have to worry about. |
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| 05:23.38 | nfearnley | How do I determine the driver it is using? |
| 05:25.19 | guest43242 | anyone know how to prevent the root filesystem from being mounted twice? |
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| 05:31.34 | justanotheruser | why isn't bitcoind in the main repo? |
| 05:32.05 | justanotheruser | *stable |
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| 05:45.08 | wols | nfearnley: I told you. Xorg.0.log tells you which driver is used. so is glxinfo |
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| 05:45.16 | wols | guest43242: what is the content of your fstab? |
| 05:46.17 | Blue1 | hey nobody looks at my tab... |
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| 05:50.04 | guest43242 | wols, I give the VMware the HDD, inorder to boot another partition, and sometimes it boots the host os |
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| 06:02.11 | z8z | Hi guys, quick question: when iceweasel 24ESR will move to stable? |
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| 07:05.50 | auditor | Hai how do i set a custom command as the default one to open a file with ? |
| 07:06.22 | auditor | the one i want is not installed using deb and hence is not in the open with or other such lists |
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| 07:27.34 | nimitz | i added sysctl vm.swappiness=0 to my /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 07:27.42 | nimitz | rebooted and the swappiness is still at 60 |
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| 07:44.03 | obesd | holy cow steam machine debian wheezy i hope when jessie is released it marks an explosion in debian gaming =) |
| 07:44.32 | obesd | in 2 years, install jessie, install steam, have ass ton of high end pc gaming |
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| 07:45.27 | auditor | Hai how do i set a custom command as the default one to open a file with ? |
| 07:45.28 | auditor | the one i want is not installed using deb and hence is not in the open with or other such lists |
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| 07:48.55 | nimitz | will swapoff -a turn swap off permanently? |
| 07:49.06 | nimitz | or only until reboot |
| 07:49.09 | cyberdo | reboot |
| 07:49.15 | nimitz | how to make it perm |
| 07:49.26 | nimitz | oh fstab |
| 07:49.29 | nimitz | (duh) |
| 07:49.31 | cyberdo | as root: edit /etc/fstab |
| 07:49.35 | cyberdo | ;o) |
| 07:50.31 | cyberdo | if I may ask: why no swap? |
| 07:50.43 | nimitz | vbox |
| 07:50.52 | cyberdo | ah.. fair enough |
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| 08:08.33 | jennie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:20.10 | wols | jennie: iceweasel is the exact same codebase as firefox. only things changed are the name and icons |
| 08:20.26 | wols | jennie: maybe get a newer version of iceweasel from mozilla.debian.net |
| 08:20.46 | jennie | wols: then why I can not view those text ? and I reinstalled it already with hindi font package too |
| 08:21.13 | wols | which version of iceweasel did you get? |
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| 08:38.14 | jennie | 17.0.10 |
| 08:38.22 | jennie | wols: I have got some more information |
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| 08:41.02 | wols | jennie: follow this: http://mozilla.debian.net/ and you will get iceweasel 25.0 |
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| 08:43.51 | jennie | Dman |
| 08:43.55 | jennie | Damn |
| 08:44.13 | jennie | I can not take screenshot properly :-( |
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| 08:45.24 | jennie | wols: look at this image http://i.imgur.com/w2s9qOE.png , I took this screenshot when the drop down menu for RSS feed was open but when I press print screen then it closes automatically which I do not want |
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| 08:46.36 | lars_1977 | hi, I am having problems setting the ip-address on an usb nic. I have set it to static in /etc/network/interfaces, and sometimes it work after reboot. But sometimes it is "up" according to ifconfig, but is without any ip-address. Is there another way of setting a static ip, that i'm not aware of? |
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| 08:59.10 | jennie | wols: this is the problem, the RSS is not showing fonts http://i.imgur.com/lkaGJGP.png |
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| 09:01.07 | wols | the font you are using for RSS doesn't have the needed glyphs. change the font |
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| 09:04.07 | jennie | how to do it ? |
| 09:04.16 | jennie | the RSS is in Hindi font |
| 09:04.32 | jennie | do I need to copy fonts from windows to linux ? |
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| 09:08.34 | nkuttler | jennie: start with apt-cache search hindi font and install one |
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| 09:12.55 | jennie | http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/fonthelp.cms this website is giving some solution about it but it is for windows only |
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| 09:15.56 | nkuttler | jennie: start with apt-cache search hindi font and install one |
| 09:16.10 | nkuttler | that's really all there is to it |
| 09:16.22 | jennie | okay |
| 09:16.30 | jennie | restarting |
| 09:16.33 | jennie | brbn |
| 09:16.39 | nkuttler | you might have to restart xorg/your browser etc, not sure after that |
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| 09:22.31 | jennie | back |
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| 09:23.14 | jennie | nkuttler: thanks a lot, it is working perfectly now |
| 09:23.18 | jennie | :-) |
| 09:23.30 | nkuttler | jennie: piece of cake :) |
| 09:23.51 | jennie | not for me as I am new into this. ;-) |
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| 09:39.38 | augustl | just to conclude, the reason rsyslog and sshd couldn't start is because I didn't wait for the last step of the installation to finish completely, so something was probably corrupted. |
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| 09:50.15 | nkuttler | jennie: yes? |
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| 09:51.41 | jennie | I got one more problem |
| 09:51.46 | jennie | let me show you screenshot |
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| 09:55.27 | jennie | Have a look here , why the pages are showing cropped display ? I am running 1900x1080(16:9) at LED http://i.imgur.com/uuqW7i1.png http://i.imgur.com/ZFueane.png http://i.imgur.com/bSeBdvF.png |
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| 09:56.51 | nkuttler | jennie: what do you mean by cropped? |
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| 09:57.54 | Konomi | hi udisks/policykit seems to think I need a password to access my sd card what do I do to make this go away |
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| 09:59.10 | jennie | nkuttler: blank space at left and right side of page window |
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| 10:00.04 | nkuttler | jennie: that looks perfectly normal to me? what are you expecting there instead? |
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| 10:02.40 | jennie | i am not expecting those blank area , they never come when i use any browser in windows |
| 10:02.54 | nkuttler | jennie: well what do you see there instead? |
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| 10:02.59 | nkuttler | ads maybe? |
| 10:03.28 | nkuttler | or does your windows computer have a smaller screen? |
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| 10:06.11 | jennie | it is same screen, I see full page |
| 10:06.29 | jennie | in 1900x1080 resolution |
| 10:07.51 | jennie | wait I show you screenshot from windows, rebooting |
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| 10:51.13 | DeepBlue | i ran 'chown -R deepblue /media' but the files there are still read only.how to make it read and write? |
| 10:52.07 | xand | chmod u+w |
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| 10:53.25 | DeepBlue | xand :to replace chown with chmod u+w? |
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| 11:11.40 | pengunix | hi jenni |
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| 11:15.24 | jennie | Hello pengunix |
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| 11:24.50 | cyberdo | jelly-home: the problem was: https://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2013/12/msg00031.html |
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| 11:24.59 | cyberdo | UI ran a alpha/beta |
| 11:25.03 | cyberdo | s/U// |
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| 11:35.15 | jennie | are you able to play this file ? please tell me if you are able to play because I have installed geckoplugin and gnome mplayer from synaptic but it is not playing http://www.merriam-webster.com/audio.php?file=weasel01&word=weasel&text=\%CB%88w%C4%93-z%C9%99l\ |
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| 11:49.37 | pengunix | jennie: quick time |
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| 12:00.17 | jennie | tried it but aint working |
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| 12:03.05 | pengunix | jennie: iceweasel browser= |
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| 12:03.54 | jennie | hmm ? |
| 12:04.05 | Zap-W | d |
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| 12:05.21 | phix | s/d// |
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| 12:06.01 | Zap-W | what's the name of the kernel package in wheezy? |
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| 12:06.51 | themill | Zap-W: linux-image-$(uname -r) or more generall, linux-image-$flavour |
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| 12:18.46 | Zap-W | themill: do you know if linux-image-3.2.0-4-rt-amd64 is sutiable for routers? |
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| 12:18.58 | Zap-W | or network traffic isn't categorized as realtime |
| 12:19.43 | themill | I'd be surprised if network stuff benefited much from the RT configuration |
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| 12:21.39 | jennie | Penguinx what you mean by pengunix> jennie: iceweasel browser= ? |
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| 12:23.11 | pengunix | jennie: what browser you use? I guess it is iceweasel? |
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| 12:23.30 | pengunix | jennie: you need the quicktime player / a quicktime compatible player and the plugin for it |
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| 12:24.46 | jennie | Pengunix, I have iceweasel only and this is my about:plugins please have a look http://paste.debian.net/70940/ |
| 12:25.06 | jennie | s/only/too |
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| 12:27.34 | Kuba | hey, anyone could comment on stability of btrfs in wheezy? :) |
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| 12:29.28 | Zap-W | squeeze still use sysvinit ? I heard it's being replaced by more advanced setups like upstart maybe? |
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| 12:32.51 | wols | Zap-W: not so far. and wheezy still uses sysvinit |
| 12:33.02 | wols | well, insserv which is sysvinit compatible |
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| 12:44.49 | WilliamDotSI | hm i have an ext3 system that id like to convert to ext4, its a kvm disk i can mount on a host and do changes on loop dev there |
| 12:44.55 | WilliamDotSI | any good way to do this easily |
| 12:45.06 | WilliamDotSI | can also do things inside the KVM obviously |
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| 12:56.50 | sevenfourk | Guys. I've setup a VM machine with bridge to my laptop and I'd like to be able to update repositories to setup additional packages. Which way would you recommend here? direct internal access (though I do not know how to setup it fow now) or setup a mirror/debian repo on my main machine. Thank you. |
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| 12:57.25 | pengunix | jennie: so mplayer is used. is mplayer installed? |
| 12:57.34 | pengunix | jennie: what happens if you open the page? does the browser start to hang? |
| 12:58.08 | koollman | sevenfourk: http proxy, or some specific apt proxy like apt-cacher-ng |
| 12:58.23 | wols | sevenfourk: if you have bridged, you have internet access. why do you need a local repo? |
| 12:59.09 | jennie | pengunix, http://i.imgur.com/h47pgoK.png http://i.imgur.com/8sWE08v.png http://i.imgur.com/dLN7oHi.png http://i.imgur.com/n1MQWoL.png |
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| 13:00.28 | pengunix | jennie: So an option dialog pops up and no audio can be heard, is that right? |
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| 13:01.07 | sevenfourk | wols: ok, then I need to setup additional routes |
| 13:01.10 | tremon | sagi-: not directly, but you can add a second passphrase to your volumes and use decrypt_derived to chain the unlocking. See /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/README.initramfs.gz |
| 13:01.57 | jennie | yes pengunix , mplayer2 is not playing at all |
| 13:02.05 | Zap-W | can I ask xen questions here? |
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| 13:02.32 | jennie | I installed those gecko and gnome mplayer plugins from software manager after searching for mozilla plugins |
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| 13:04.42 | jennie | and yes pengunix you said correct |
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| 13:05.18 | pengunix | jennie: so even if you open mplayer main application, it still can't play anything? |
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| 13:06.03 | jennie | I havent checked mplayer main application |
| 13:06.26 | abrotman | Zap-W: you can try |
| 13:06.46 | jennie | also pengunix I just installed plugins not the main application :-S |
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| 13:08.35 | pengunix | jennie: you will need the main applicaiton, too. |
| 13:08.43 | pengunix | jennie: because the plugin merely bridges to the main application |
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| 13:09.25 | jennie | :O |
| 13:09.56 | jennie | but this worked for now , I removed those plugins and intalled totem plugin for firefox and all is well now http://i.imgur.com/dJZ8K8a.png |
| 13:10.05 | Zap-W | in xen docs they say to configure Driver DOmain with pci passthrough for full access to the hardware, device such as nic but it still uses a backend/frontend xen driver between dom0 and the driver domain?? domain0 still does all the talk to the hardware? |
| 13:10.18 | pengunix | jennie: Totem is the official movie player of the GNOME desktop environment based on GStreamer. |
| 13:10.21 | pengunix | jennie: (quoted) |
| 13:10.35 | pengunix | jennie: So the player is already installed on your system by default (when using GNOME desktop). |
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| 13:10.42 | pengunix | jennie: and so the plugin can use it |
| 13:10.52 | pengunix | jennie: So it works fine now? |
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| 13:24.38 | jennie | yes pengunix , it is working now with totem plugin, but I have to install mplayer too for playing video files from terminal so I will try it again later |
| 13:25.04 | abrotman | why not play videos with totem from the terminal? |
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| 13:27.19 | jennie | abrotman, because I want to learn terminal stuff so I will do it that way :-) |
| 13:27.22 | abrotman | dpkg: tell electric_mind about root |
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| 13:27.29 | DeepBlue | i tried to open /media/Media2 but i get'permissions denied' how to fix this? |
| 13:27.33 | abrotman | jennie: that didn't answer my question .. |
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| 13:28.45 | jennie | why it didnt answered your question ? |
| 13:29.24 | abrotman | read what I asked, read what you answered .. |
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| 13:30.43 | jennie | .oops |
| 13:30.55 | jennie | abrotman, is totem good than mplayer and vlc ? |
| 13:31.07 | pengunix | vlc is best I think, but just an opinion :) |
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| 13:31.33 | abrotman | jennie: try it and see .. |
| 13:31.43 | electric_mind | hi, i have some issue with debian iptables |
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| 13:32.02 | electric_mind | when i try to use this rule |
| 13:32.03 | electric_mind | iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -o eth1 -p tcp -s X.X.X.X -m owner --gid-owner group_name -j DNAT --to-destination X.X.X.X:80; |
| 13:32.06 | electric_mind | it fails |
| 13:32.23 | electric_mind | but when i substitu -m owner -uid-owner myuser |
| 13:32.30 | jennie | i have been using VLC in windows , it works fine with subtitles |
| 13:32.36 | jennie | will try totem |
| 13:32.38 | electric_mind | everything is fine, so what happened ? |
| 13:32.46 | abrotman | electric_mind: there is a #netfilter that would probably be more help |
| 13:33.02 | electric_mind | abrotman: they couldn't help ) |
| 13:33.14 | abrotman | couldn't? or you didn't wait long enough ? |
| 13:33.43 | electric_mind | i wait enough |
| 13:33.50 | abrotman | substitude those values with what? |
| 13:34.01 | abrotman | substitute .. |
| 13:34.16 | electric_mind | iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -o eth1 -p tcp -s X.X.X.X -m owner --uid-owner username -j DNAT --to-destination X.X.X.X:80; |
| 13:34.31 | electric_mind | and then it works |
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| 13:34.45 | electric_mind | but i'd like to use gid-owner, is it possible ? |
| 13:35.11 | abrotman | man page says it is |
| 13:35.21 | electric_mind | but it fails :( |
| 13:35.28 | electric_mind | maybe it's a bug |
| 13:35.30 | abrotman | with what error ? |
| 13:35.51 | electric_mind | this rule didn't apply |
| 13:35.52 | shagelito | greetings #debian. Im experiencing some dependendcy problem. Trying to install wine on Debian wheezy 6 |
| 13:35.55 | shagelito | 64* |
| 13:36.02 | shagelito | am i at the right place ? |
| 13:36.03 | mjt | wheezy 6? |
| 13:36.05 | abrotman | wine from where? |
| 13:36.18 | shagelito | from the apt-get method |
| 13:36.22 | mjt | wine in wheezy is 32bit only |
| 13:36.24 | themill | shagelito: perhaps you can pastebin the entire output |
| 13:36.25 | electric_mind | abrotman: iptables v1.4.14 |
| 13:36.29 | abrotman | electric_mind:did you try with numerical ID as the man page suggests might work ? |
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| 13:37.03 | electric_mind | abrotman: sure, it doesnt work |
| 13:37.24 | shagelito | mjt: i know ! i had to add the i386 arch |
| 13:37.35 | shagelito | themill: sure im pastebin it hold on |
| 13:38.15 | abrotman | electric_mind: acccording to the man page, it should, (which is why I suggested asking #netfilter, they should know more) |
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| 13:39.25 | Iszak | I am using the preseed configuration, I have set d-i pkgsel/upgrade select full-upgrade but it doesn't seem to run? how can I validate that it's run or not and how long should it take? |
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| 13:40.05 | themill | Iszak: what are you wanting it to upgrade from and to? |
| 13:40.27 | Iszak | themill I just want to ensure that upon provisioning a machine that all packages are up-to-date. |
| 13:40.58 | Iszak | As often I have an issue when I use a provisioner e.g. puppet that apt-get update hasn't run and the packages are out of date. |
| 13:40.59 | themill | Iszak: well there won't necessarily be any updates to install at all |
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| 13:41.21 | Iszak | themill I understand, but I would rather attempt to bring it to the most up-to-date version anyway. |
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| 13:41.36 | themill | (especially today, when there are no additional packages in the security archive at all) |
| 13:41.36 | nuern | Anyone could help me with runing starcraft2 on linux ?? |
| 13:41.46 | nuern | with bumblebee |
| 13:42.26 | abrotman | on which Linux? |
| 13:42.47 | Iszak | themill I don't understand what you mean? |
| 13:42.52 | nuern | its ubuntu |
| 13:42.58 | nuern | so based on debian l( |
| 13:43.00 | nuern | :) |
| 13:43.02 | themill | dpkg: tell Iszak about 7.3 |
| 13:43.05 | abrotman | nuern: so ask #ubuntu |
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| 13:43.13 | abrotman | nuern: we do not support Ubuntu here |
| 13:43.18 | shagelito | themill: Here is the output google translated :http://pastebin.com/ZMagE08B |
| 13:43.27 | shagelito | sounds like a painfull problem |
| 13:44.15 | nuern | abrotman, they dont know or dont want to help ;) |
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| 13:44.28 | abrotman | nuern: then I'd suggest installing Debian or asking ##linux, we cannot help here |
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| 13:44.56 | Iszak | themill sure currently there won't be any updates, but in the future, there will be. this is for between the minor releases when there are newer packages that can be upgraded. |
| 13:45.34 | themill | nuern: perhaps you should actually try asking #ubuntu then. It's hard for them to answer when you don't ask the question. |
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| 13:46.03 | themill | Iszak: sure. You were asking how long this upgrade will take and the answer today is "0min". |
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| 13:46.34 | Iszak | themill okay I guess that answers my first question, which is subjective to how long ago the minor release was done. |
| 13:46.44 | themill | there won't be an obvious "I'm downloading a new kernel" step for you to see |
| 13:47.04 | mjt | shagelito: there's no need to use google translator, just prepend "LANG= " in front of your apt command - it will display stuff in english. |
| 13:47.15 | mjt | shagelito: how do you install it - what's the command line? |
| 13:47.23 | shagelito | woa |
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| 13:47.46 | shagelito | mjt: sudo apt-get install wine-bin:i386 |
| 13:48.19 | Iszak | themill okay but that preseed command is what I'm looking for to essentially run apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 13:48.23 | mjt | shagelito: did apt-get update? |
| 13:48.51 | shagelito | mjt: sure and not only one time ! but t be perfectly sure, im retrying right now |
| 13:48.51 | Tylertwo | Hey, I'm trying to connect to a WPA secured wifi network via the network interfaces file and ifup/down. The relevant part of the interfaces file: iface eth1 inet dhcp -- wpa-ssid id -- add wpa-psk pass. When I run the ifup I get the error: ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument. And it doesn't connect. I haven't configured WPA-supplicant in any way, although it is installed and it does start running when I ifup.. Any advice/suggestions? |
| 13:49.10 | themill | Iszak: yes, I believe so. |
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| 13:49.25 | toss2 | can I isntall something really fast really easy on debian to send emails |
| 13:50.07 | abrotman | exim or postfix |
| 13:50.17 | Iszak | okay thanks themill |
| 13:50.26 | mjt | or something like nullmailer? |
| 13:50.36 | toss2 | abrotman those don't require any configuration to run |
| 13:50.39 | toss2 | plyg&play |
| 13:50.40 | toss2 | ? |
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| 13:50.47 | toss2 | are they plug&play? |
| 13:50.49 | mjt | there's no such thing |
| 13:51.17 | abrotman | toss2: FIIK, try it and see .. one would hope a mial server requires some confiuration |
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| 13:53.14 | Tylertwo | Hmm.. looks like I need to configure wpa_supplicant via the wpa_supplicant.conf file. |
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| 13:54.21 | mjt | Tylertwo: these wpa-* parameters in network/interfaces _is_ the wpa_supplicant configuration |
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| 13:55.47 | Tylertwo | mjt, ah.. |
| 13:56.14 | shagelito | mjt: http://pastebin.com/gV4kXvsy here is the full output in the right language : http://pastebin.com/gV4kXvsy |
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| 13:57.30 | mjt | shagelito: i don't really understand what is missing there. It should pick libc6:i386 just fine. What is the version of libc6 on your system? How did you add the i386 arch? |
| 13:58.38 | abrotman | win 6 |
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| 13:59.11 | tremon | shagelito: can you paste the output of apt-cache policy libc6 libc6:i386? |
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| 14:00.29 | shagelito | mjt: Can you tell me how to check libc6 version ? i386 arch was added just like in the official debian website steps : dpkg --add-architecture i386. |
| 14:00.39 | shagelito | tremon: sure |
| 14:00.53 | mjt | shagelito: what tremon said :) |
| 14:01.04 | shagelito | mjt: im on it ! |
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| 14:02.48 | shagelito | mjt: tremon : http://pastebin.com/kDJx4x3a |
| 14:03.22 | tremon | shagelito: ouch. I feel a reinstall coming |
| 14:03.45 | shagelito | tremon: lol. Is this because i add kali sources ? |
| 14:03.59 | shagelito | dumb me i felt it was a bad idea |
| 14:04.11 | tremon | no because you're running an ubuntu libc. Not sure if that's coming from kali or some other source |
| 14:04.32 | wols | shagelito: uname -a what does it say? |
| 14:04.47 | shagelito | tremon: well i donwnload the image from the official website. I also checked the sum5 |
| 14:05.23 | shagelito | wols: Linux Hal 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17 18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 14:05.46 | wols | shagelito: you run ubuntu and not debian. please ask in #ubuntu or ##linux about any support problems you have |
| 14:05.52 | shagelito | lol |
| 14:05.56 | shagelito | wtf |
| 14:06.05 | tremon | as for the error you're seeing: multi-arch packages can only be installed in exactly the same version. So in order for you to install libc6:i386, you either need to downgrade libc6 to 2.13-38 (breaking who knows how many packages in the process), or find an install an i386 version of 2.17-0ubuntu5. Which is a bad idea any way you slice it |
| 14:06.16 | wols | shagelito: this is definitely not debian in any way shape or form. you run ubuntu kernel and ubuntu libc6. this is ubuntu |
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| 14:08.07 | shagelito | wols: ... well im not saying im not trusting you. But at least i would like to understand the problem. How did i found myself using a ubuntu machine, while i downloaded it on the debian website ! Grub tells me to boot Debian etc .. |
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| 14:09.27 | wols | shagelito: are you currently on a ubuntu live cd? |
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| 14:09.54 | tremon | shagelito: have you ever added an ubuntu ppa to your sources.list perhaps? |
| 14:09.59 | shagelito | wols: no ! thats what is strange ! i installed it on my hard drive ! |
| 14:10.03 | wols | that is about the only way that your hdd install could be debian and your uname and apt-cache gives you ubuntu packages |
| 14:10.15 | shagelito | tremon: well i dont think so .. |
| 14:10.28 | wols | shagelito: apt-cache policy what is the output? |
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| 14:11.14 | wols | shagelito: cat /etc/lsb-release |
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| 14:12.12 | shagelito | wols: apt-cache : http://pastebin.com/TKuLu0wn |
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| 14:12.35 | alex35 | hello |
| 14:12.54 | wols | !kali |
| 14:12.54 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on irc.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 14:13.05 | wols | shagelito: so no matter if you run ubuntu or kali, neither is debian |
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| 14:13.16 | wols | shagelito: I don't know (or care) what you run, but it is NOT debian |
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| 14:13.19 | shagelito | wols: cat : shagelito@Hal:/usr/share/doc/mame$ sudo cat /etc/lsb-release |
| 14:13.19 | shagelito | cat: /etc/lsb-release: No such file or directory |
| 14:13.50 | shagelito | wols: i feel just like if i just were raped by some E.T |
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| 14:15.54 | shagelito | and the only rational explaination is PPA. Right ? |
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| 14:16.37 | tremon | shagelito: it's impossible to do a post-mortem on your install across an internet channel, but hopefully zgrep -h libc6 /var/log/dpkg.log* | grep -v half- |sort will give you some handle |
| 14:17.20 | wols | shagelito: no it's not. libc6 and kernels aren't in PPAs. your packages come from ubuntu main repos. look at the version numbers |
| 14:17.21 | tremon | it won't tell you where those packages came from, but it will tell you when your system became an unsupportable mess |
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| 14:18.14 | tremon | means "unsupportable mess" in the kindest way possible |
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| 14:19.20 | shagelito | tremon: okay. so i need to reinstall, right ? |
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| 14:19.45 | wols | shagelito: to get a supported debian: yes |
| 14:19.50 | tremon | "need" is to strong a word, there is always a way to salvage a debian install. But it's by far the easiest and fastest way |
| 14:19.57 | alex35 | hello, someone here knows how to connect an android phone in debian? |
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| 14:20.27 | tremon | and as wols says, probably the only way to be sure that there are no other surprises lurking on your system |
| 14:20.33 | wols | alex35: go-mtp. possibly fuse-mtp. by default, debian has no good MTP implementation |
| 14:20.51 | wols | maybe jessie finally will... |
| 14:21.00 | shagelito | well thanks for that help anyway ! |
| 14:21.24 | alex35 | wols: thank you |
| 14:21.32 | tremon | alex35: I'm using mtp-tools, but that's cli only and not easily browsable |
| 14:22.08 | alex35 | tremon: thank you, i will try |
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| 14:23.22 | dvs | Time to change the topic agian. |
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| 14:24.16 | dvs | Debian 7.3 is out! |
| 14:24.37 | wols | this versionitis is just awful! oh tempora, oh mores! |
| 14:24.51 | alex35 | thanks for help me, goodbye. |
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| 15:51.01 | pengunix | OK, with debconf-get-selections I can get all the settings currently set for the system. But how can I get a list only of the _open_ questions? |
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| 15:56.49 | pengunix | Anyone? |
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| 16:01.56 | tremon | you can't, that output isn't provided by debconf-get-selections |
| 16:03.03 | tremon | (that's assuming that "open" questions means questions that haven't yet been shown to the user and not "questions that will be asked again on package upgrade", because the latter depends on the package itself and the value of debconf priority |
| 16:03.06 | tremon | ) |
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| 16:03.49 | tremon | the closest you get is debconf-show for every installed package, see man debconf-show |
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| 16:05.19 | pengunix | tremon: so I would have to make a script which uses debconf-show in a loop and checks for open questions? Are open questions listed differently? Are those open questions somehow to be found when burying more lowlevel? Is there a dpkg file for those? |
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| 16:09.10 | tremon | have you read man debconf-show yet? at least two of your questions are already answered there. |
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| 16:19.26 | Jan\ | so uh, i think xserver crashed and restarted |
| 16:19.49 | Jan\ | the screen went black and it asked me to login again |
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| 16:20.13 | Jan\ | i login then there isnt any app running |
| 16:20.14 | nodiscc | hi all, when I run a desktop launcher that has the Terminal=true key, ( example htop launcher http://paste.debian.net/70973/) it keeps opening in xterm, but I have set my default terminal emulator to xfce4-terminal |
| 16:20.27 | nodiscc | both with update-alternatives and the XFCE prefs dialog |
| 16:21.26 | nodiscc | x-terminal-emulator is properly set http://paste.debian.net/70975/ |
| 16:21.58 | nodiscc | what am i doing wring? i want it to open in xfce4-terminal |
| 16:22.01 | nodiscc | *o |
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| 16:31.36 | posthuman | hey guys ... i have a problem connecting my ubuntu machine via ipsec/l2tpd to my server ... my mobile device works just perfect so i cant really figure out whats wrong |
| 16:32.01 | posthuman | ins syslog it says sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "peer refused to authenticate"] |
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| 16:32.14 | xand | posthuman: you might try #ubuntu then |
| 16:33.27 | jennie | hello xand |
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| 16:33.46 | martin-_- | is it possible that a added script with update.rc myscript defaults can break the boot process because the myscript cann not be executed to the "end" |
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| 16:34.07 | xand | hi |
| 16:36.58 | jelly-home | martin-_-: yes, it is. |
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| 16:37.16 | posthuman | xand: thought someone around here could help ... |
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| 16:38.52 | xand | !based on debian |
| 16:38.53 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 16:39.46 | martin-_- | jelly-home, I added an script which connects to an openvpn server with update.rc myscript defaults. Can i simply remove the myscript without breaking the system? |
| 16:40.57 | martin-_- | oh i think it would be better by letting the script as it is, and only uncomment the deamon starting command line |
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| 16:55.51 | BeWilled | Hello, is it possible to uninstall everything, and do a fresh distro install keeping whats inside my home folder? |
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| 17:02.08 | tremon | BeWilled: only if your /home is a separate partition |
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| 17:03.30 | jaami | i need to change path in shell startup files. what file i do need to change actually? |
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| 17:04.18 | jaami | i changed path in /etc/login.defs but surprisingly this time it did not work. |
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| 17:06.40 | jaami | do i need to logout or exec $SHELL is enough after changing path in /etc/profile.defs ? |
| 17:06.41 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 17:07.47 | xreal | Can you figure out virtual packages from a sourcefile? I can't find libjpeg-dev. |
| 17:07.48 | jaami | any night owl like to help a newb here? |
| 17:08.00 | vapor | what do you need jaami |
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| 17:08.38 | xreal | TheMill: r u here? |
| 17:09.18 | jaami | vapor, thanks for,asking, i need to set path that i did in /etc/login.defs but echo does not show changes. what i should do? should i i add path changes in startup files also? |
| 17:10.07 | jaami | vapor, i did not logout , should i try that as well? |
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| 17:12.06 | jaami | vapor, comments in login.defs shows that the path there is minimal and for rest the startup files should be changed. i have no idea what startup file i should change. can you help? |
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| 17:14.35 | jaami | vapor, imneed a gf |
| 17:15.08 | jaami | :) |
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| 17:16.29 | jaami | winter sure has effected support/help on debain channel |
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| 17:17.20 | nimitz | clean barebones debian install on vbox -> installed newest vbox guest additions -> startx -> no screens found |
| 17:17.26 | nimitz | do i need a gl package? |
| 17:17.53 | wols | nimitz: pastebin the Xorg.0.log |
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| 17:18.19 | jaami | wow, help is there |
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| 17:18.59 | nimitz | is that in var/logs? |
| 17:19.00 | local | hello all. I created a 1GB file (/root/swapfile.crypt) and then used "losetup" to mount it and to have a device name called /dev/loop0. I formatted this device with ext4 and using in my /etc/crypttab the line "cryptedswap /root/swapfile.crypt /dev/urandom swap,cipher=aes-xts-plain64,size=512" and in /etc/fstab I use "/dev/mapper/cryptedswap none swap nofail,pri=1 0 0". That means, ... |
| 17:19.13 | nimitz | (yep) |
| 17:19.16 | local | this loop mounted device is encrypted on each system boot with a random-generated passphrase, which works fine. |
| 17:19.17 | wols | nimitz: yes |
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| 17:20.14 | local | but now my question: I think dm-crypt and dm-mod is used for allowing that, isn't it? Would it be better to use "aes-loop" package instead? I just discovered "aes-loop" package on Debian and wondering which way is better |
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| 17:21.31 | jaami | brb |
| 17:21.36 | nimitz | cant really pastebin easily but here's the relevant part: http://i.imgur.com/DJaaRSo.png |
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| 17:21.50 | diazepan | hi |
| 17:21.51 | wols | !nopaste |
| 17:21.51 | dpkg | nopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste". |
| 17:21.52 | wols | use this then |
| 17:22.02 | nimitz | nice |
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| 17:22.42 | wols | nimitz: my guess is your guest additions didn't compile since you lack a few things, like headers or gcc |
| 17:23.00 | local | what is better? "cryptsetup" or "loop-aes" ? |
| 17:23.03 | nimitz | i have gcc |
| 17:23.11 | nimitz | and i can run VBoxClient etc |
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| 17:24.06 | jennie | hello anyone here use VLC player ? |
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| 17:24.26 | wols | nimitz: lsmod |
| 17:24.35 | wols | !tell jennie about anyone |
| 17:25.04 | jennie | hi wols |
| 17:25.07 | eptalon | jennie: many do. What's your problem? |
| 17:25.25 | frostschutz | local, depends on your requirements. cryptsetup is more powerful in many ways |
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| 17:25.42 | nimitz | vboxvideo -> used by -> 0 |
| 17:25.51 | local | frostschutz: how should one decide between loop-aes and cryptsetup ? |
| 17:26.21 | jennie | pasting problem |
| 17:26.35 | wols | nimitz: dpkg -l |grep virtualbox |
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| 17:27.07 | jaami | after changing path in /etc/login.defs i had to logout and login again otherwise echo $PATH wont show new path |
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| 17:28.29 | nimitz | i got virtualbox-guest-dkms, virtualbox-guest-utils, virtualbox-guest-x11, virtualboxose-guest-x11 |
| 17:28.51 | nimitz | virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 |
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| 17:32.03 | nimitz | i'll try rebuilding vbox guest |
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| 17:32.27 | xreal | Do I need *ALL* packages from a virtual one or only ONE of them? |
| 17:33.12 | eptalon | xreal: you see that with A|B|C, meaning you only need one. A,B,C means you need all |
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| 17:37.14 | nimitz | hmmm, maybe i need hal? |
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| 17:37.55 | nimitz | well, rebuilding vbox did it |
| 17:38.08 | nimitz | thanks |
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| 17:39.28 | no_gravity | Hello! Whats the best way to compress a folder? |
| 17:39.31 | nimitz | to remove an old IDE cdrom youre not using anymore on a system, can you just delete the /etc/cdrom entry |
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| 17:39.52 | nimitz | p7zip |
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| 17:40.39 | no_gravity | nimitz: dont have it. i would prefer to use something thats already onboard a standard debian install. how about zip? |
| 17:40.59 | nimitz | depend show barebones is your install |
| 17:41.03 | nimitz | depends* |
| 17:42.13 | mtn | no_gravity: if you mean a standard gnome install, I think you can right click on the folder and get a compress option. |
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| 17:42.25 | no_gravity | mtn: i do everyhing on the command line |
| 17:42.39 | no_gravity | how about "zip -r foo.zip foo" ? |
| 17:42.40 | mtn | no_gravity: good to know :P |
| 17:42.59 | DeepBlue | how 2 install poweriso?i downloaded a tar.gz file but i don't no what to do with it |
| 17:43.12 | no_gravity | "zip -9r foo.zip foo" might be better |
| 17:43.23 | nimitz | deepblue does it have a makefile? |
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| 17:44.40 | xreal | eptalon: No, I mean *virtual* packages. Wait. |
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| 17:45.04 | xreal | eptalon: depends on this one: http://packages.debian.org/en/sid/libjpeg-dev |
| 17:45.15 | xreal | on both? on one of both? |
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| 17:45.28 | DeepBlue | it only includes on file which seem to be a binary |
| 17:45.34 | no_gravity | ok, so if you debian pros have no opinion on this, then i will use "zip -9r foo.zip foo" to compress folder foo. |
| 17:45.48 | eptalon | xreal: means if you install either you get the required functionality. |
| 17:46.09 | xreal | epsilon: okay, thanks :) |
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| 17:50.33 | mrmr | no_gravity: i'd compress like this 'tar cf foo.tar foo' |
| 17:50.44 | jaami | top is not showing eclipse that i want to terminate. what is other way to kill eclipse? |
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| 17:50.58 | no_gravity | mrmr: isnt the problem with tar that it does not have a directory part? so to find out whats inside of it is slow? |
| 17:51.42 | amphi | jaami: use 'ps aux | grep eclipse' to get the PID |
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| 17:53.53 | eptalon | jaami: ps aux |grep eclipse |awk '{print $2}' |head -1 |
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| 17:56.08 | jaami | eptalon, eclipse is still running |
| 17:56.37 | eptalon | jaami: the number you get there is the pid you can kill |
| 17:56.54 | jaami | there is a popup messge that has no close button, thats why have to iill eclipse |
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| 17:57.26 | eptalon | jaami: otherwise use xkill |
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| 18:00.58 | amphi | jaami: escape or enter doesn't get rid of it? |
| 18:01.37 | jaami | even xkill did not work http://paste.debian.net/70987/ |
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| 18:02.32 | jaami | amphi, there is stupid popup messgae without any close button , now cant close it |
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| 18:06.39 | jaami | never mind, thanks for help. i pressed esc button on laptop and popup closed. i use tablet to access laptop and the client for rdp i use does not give option to use esc button because its free version of the client. had to move back to other room to manually press esc. thanks |
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| 18:08.53 | nimitz | how many of you have a script for "sudo apt-get install $*" |
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| 18:09.36 | steven887 | Why do I see "no space left on device" error on /home partition while there is plenty of free space: http://perl.nopaste.dk/p69143 ? |
| 18:10.31 | steven887 | Hmm..looks like I have used all the inodes. |
| 18:10.40 | darkblue_b | no_gravity .. looking at the source of tar, it appears that there is a header that describes all contents, and listing comes from reading that header.. it must be compact.. so that sounds a lot like a "directory" |
| 18:11.40 | amphi | jaami: you didn't say it was on a fondleslab… |
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| 18:15.05 | sivik | anyone know what repo a package named libxprint or libxprintutil is? |
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| 18:15.55 | wols | ,v libxprint |
| 18:15.56 | judd | No package named 'libxprint' was found in i386. |
| 18:15.59 | wols | ,v libxprintutil |
| 18:16.00 | judd | No package named 'libxprintutil' was found in i386. |
| 18:16.06 | wols | now you know: nowhere |
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| 18:16.22 | sivik | I'm not using i386 but it shows there should be one |
| 18:16.42 | sivik | any ideals on what is needed for xprint? |
| 18:16.55 | wols | sivik: apt-cache show xprint |
| 18:17.26 | wols | sivik: xprint is from squeeze and now not exiting anymore in current debian |
| 18:17.28 | Jod15 | hi |
| 18:17.31 | wols | why do you need it? |
| 18:17.41 | sivik | enlightenment |
| 18:17.49 | wols | which version? |
| 18:17.55 | sivik | whatever the latest is in the svn |
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| 18:18.48 | leonlemouton | sivik: https://launchpad.net/debian/+source/libxprintutil/1:1.0.1.xsf1-3 |
| 18:19.18 | wols | leonlemouton: great way to destroy a debian installation |
| 18:19.34 | sivik | libxp is what was needed. |
| 18:19.51 | leonlemouton | if you read you don't destroy |
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| 18:21.24 | jaami | amphi, plz see this http://paste.debian.net/70993/ the path is correct and file exist on the path. |
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| 18:22.40 | sivik | wols Leoneof i needed libxp |
| 18:22.59 | Leoneof | sivik: me? |
| 18:23.18 | amphi | jaami: no idea about java, sorry |
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| 18:23.56 | leonlemouton | sivik : apt-get install libxp6 |
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| 18:24.12 | amphi | sivik: heh, you too playing with enlightenment? I'm in terminology on wayland ATM ;) |
| 18:24.46 | sivik | yes, i already installed it |
| 18:24.51 | sivik | Leoneof, sorry, not you |
| 18:25.06 | Leoneof | sivik: no problem :) |
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| 18:27.41 | Jod15 | hi do you know if xchat-otr is available on the debian repository? |
| 18:28.05 | Jod15 | i would like to crypt my irc channel |
| 18:28.37 | sivik | search for libxchat |
| 18:28.40 | sivik | see what you come up with |
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| 18:29.31 | Jod15 | thanks :) |
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| 18:46.44 | sivik | anyone know whats needed for bullet >= 2.8? |
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| 18:50.18 | jelly-home | sivik: what's bullet |
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| 18:50.50 | sivik | Uh, not real sure, this is for enlightenment and it says i'm missing it |
| 18:51.12 | jelly-home | ask the e17 people? |
| 18:51.16 | jelly-home | ,v e17 |
| 18:51.17 | judd | Package: e17 on i386 -- jessie: 0.17.3-2; sid: 0.17.3-2 |
| 18:51.36 | sivik | udd, i'm aleady in that channel waiting for a response. |
| 18:51.42 | sivik | what is ,v? |
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| 18:51.48 | sivik | ,v bullet |
| 18:51.49 | judd | No package named 'bullet' was found in i386. |
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| 18:51.58 | leonlemouton | sivik: http://bulletphysics.org/Bullet/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=8490 |
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| 18:54.33 | sivik | its actually called ogre by the way it looks in the repos |
| 18:54.49 | sivik | i wish I could find faster repos |
| 18:55.05 | sivik | i have tried a ton and they don't go hardy above 1.5 mb/s |
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| 18:56.00 | nimitz | is there a lightweight open source irfanview "clone" |
| 18:56.44 | sivik | gimp is what I use but its not that lightweight |
| 18:56.56 | jaami | i have a bit of path issue with adt manager for android on debian and i was told to get helper libs to get the issue fixed. what helper libs i need for android bundle i downloaded for my 64bit debian? |
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| 19:01.13 | jaami | adt manager shows error with 2 forward slashes in path adt cannot recognize. actually there is no double forward slashes in my $PATH. strage issue but as i was told it has nothing to do with android, eclipse, adt or java. all i need is helper libs. sounds mysterious thing but have to do it to get the issue resolved. plz help |
| 19:04.10 | jaami | are there any helper libs? where i can get those libs? or is it just a stupid question? |
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| 19:04.26 | nimitz | whats the lightest gui archiver? xarchiver? |
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| 19:05.58 | sivik | jaami, check this http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=105734 |
| 19:06.29 | jaami | thanks sivik , im checking now |
| 19:06.35 | amphi | sivik: you need libbullet-dev |
| 19:06.56 | amphi | it pulls in several libbullet libs |
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| 19:08.57 | sivik | amphi, there isn't anything related to bullet in the normal repos |
| 19:08.59 | sivik | thats the problem. |
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| 19:09.14 | jelly-home | ,v libbullet-dev |
| 19:09.15 | judd | Package: libbullet-dev on i386 -- jessie: 2.81-rev2613+dfsg2-1; sid: 2.81-rev2613+dfsg2-1; experimental: 2.82-r2704+dfsg-1 |
| 19:09.16 | klaas88 | hi@all, anyone in here knows how to troubleshoot not working hdmi-audio on ivy bridge? |
| 19:09.20 | amphi | sivik: are you on stable? |
| 19:09.32 | xreal | My "checkbackports" script is done and it works as expected. I'm currently adding recursive support to check, if all dependencies can be solved correctly. |
| 19:09.47 | sivik | amphi, wheezy |
| 19:09.56 | jelly-home | dpkg, give xreal a cookie |
| 19:09.56 | dpkg | gives xreal a home-baked fortune cookie to cheer him up. |
| 19:10.17 | amphi | sivik: ah; you try to build enlightenment from git on wheezy? |
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| 19:10.52 | sivik | svn yes |
| 19:11.04 | sivik | oh way, maybe it is git |
| 19:11.07 | sivik | i'm using a script |
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| 19:11.21 | sivik | yea, its git |
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| 19:11.42 | raSter^ | hello. what do i need to install to have c compiler |
| 19:11.51 | raSter^ | so that i can configure/install |
| 19:12.02 | raSter^ | is apt-get install gcc enough? |
| 19:12.18 | sivik | raSter^, should be |
| 19:12.43 | raSter^ | it didnt work in my case |
| 19:13.12 | sivik | what are you having an issue with? |
| 19:13.19 | amphi | sivik: it'll be hard work on wheezy, I expect |
| 19:13.38 | amphi | !build-essential |
| 19:13.38 | dpkg | from memory, build-essential is a package designed to help you create executables and build Debian packages. If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables or can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to "aptitude install build-essential". If you don't plan to compile things, you don't need this package. See also <qotd49>. |
| 19:13.44 | raSter^ | configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables |
| 19:13.45 | sivik | amphi, oh. someone said that e17 is in the repos but I cannot find it |
| 19:13.53 | raSter^ | sivik, installing znc |
| 19:14.00 | raSter^ | when i ./configure |
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| 19:14.04 | sivik | yea, build-essential |
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| 19:14.06 | amphi | raSter^: ^^^ |
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| 19:15.04 | raSter^ | ok amphi thanks |
| 19:15.18 | LinuxGuy2020 | I am running a mini-itx media server in the house. Is there some app available for debian that will allow me to browse the local network on a specific port and see a list of shared movies so that I can play them on all devices in the house including the chromecast in the living room? When I used to have a mybooklive it was debian based and used twonky server but im not sure if there is a free alternative. |
| 19:15.25 | xreal | jelly-home: judd isn't perfect by far :( |
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| 19:15.58 | amphi | ,v e17 |
| 19:15.59 | judd | Package: e17 on i386 -- jessie: 0.17.3-2; sid: 0.17.3-2 |
| 19:16.13 | LinuxGuy2020 | The server is running minidlna daemon |
| 19:16.25 | amphi | sivik: not in wheezy - perhaps there is a backport? |
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| 19:17.16 | jelly-home | xreal: last time I said that I got link to its git source tree |
| 19:17.30 | sivik | amphi, i'm trying it now |
| 19:18.51 | xreal | jelly-home: Yep, but judd is fail on concept in my eyes. It demands on a big database. Mine is based on some small TXT-files or sqlite |
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| 19:22.22 | jelly-home | xreal: it doesn't only depend on udd, it also grabs files from repos and otherwhere |
| 19:23.32 | nimitz | is vim-gtk gvim? |
| 19:25.16 | jhutchins | What is the logic behind USB drives mounting root-writable-only? |
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| 19:27.03 | Sivik | its now installed from repos |
| 19:27.10 | leonlemouton | (LeoN#1983) |
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| 19:33.08 | HicksD_ | jhutchins: I had that with xfce until I removed a few usb entries from fstab. After that it mounted based on the current user |
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| 19:36.26 | rryoumaa | i like deluge, but i wonder if there are any torrent programs that will store a list of the things that you have "done" (watched, read, listened, etc.) via a checkbox. or at least a list of things completed. or maybe the ability to run a script upon a click? |
| 19:36.32 | jhutchins | HicksD_: Yeah, xfce. I had to add an entry with umask=000 |
| 19:36.48 | jaami | i hate android |
| 19:37.08 | jhutchins | It would seem to make sense to make the system usable by default. |
| 19:37.27 | Sivik | jaami, why do you hate android? |
| 19:38.11 | jelly-home | Sivik, jaami: keep offtopic convo in #debian-offtopic or #defocus when there are tech support questions abound |
| 19:38.32 | jaami | adt manager shows error with 2 forward slashes in path adt cannot recognize. actually there is no double forward slashes in my $PATH. strage issue but as i was told it has nothing to do with android, eclipse, adt or java. all i need is helper libs. sounds mysterious thing but have to do it to get the issue resolved |
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| 19:39.17 | jhutchins | I'm thinking of just doing a clean install with xfce and see if it handles USB keys properly. |
| 19:40.30 | Sivik | jaami, why not ask in the android channel? |
| 19:40.37 | jaami | the link did not help. i was told the issue s not with path. all i need is helper libs. what helper libs are available on debian for android? |
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| 19:41.03 | jaami | Sivik, they say the issue is on debian side |
| 19:41.13 | jaami | its hard to believe |
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| 19:42.51 | CptArgentum | can anyone recommomed a image/build to put on a USB stick? |
| 19:42.57 | jaami | erorr message shows wrong double slashes in path where a file is not found. of course there is no double forward slashes in my $PATH. all my other installed apps are using same path and are working fine |
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| 19:46.10 | amphi | Sivik: you found a backport? |
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| 19:46.24 | Sivik | i found a repo with it present. |
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| 19:46.57 | amphi | what repo? |
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| 19:47.28 | HicksD_ | jhutchins: Check your /etc/fstab for entries for /media/usb* and stick a # in front of them |
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| 19:47.46 | HicksD_ | then when you plug in a usb the system should mount it for you under your user perms |
| 19:49.23 | ectospasm | jaami: double slashes get collapsed by the shell, so they're effectively ignored. /usr/bin//ls is the same as /usr/bin/ls |
| 19:49.40 | ectospasm | jaami: my guess is you have a trailing slash somewhere in your path |
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| 19:51.00 | xreal | jelly-home: I've seen it working with UDD only in GIT. |
| 19:51.30 | jaami | ectospasm, plz see this http://paste.debian.net/70993/ |
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| 19:52.55 | ectospasm | jaami: file /home/jaami/android/sdk/tools/emulator |
| 19:53.09 | jaami | ectospasm, the error message show // ..... sdk//tools |
| 19:53.26 | jaami | yes that file exist |
| 19:54.04 | JyZyXEL | is it possible to take a ext3 dump and restore it on to a ext4 fs? |
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| 19:56.04 | ectospasm | jaami: what's throwing the java.io.IOException? |
| 19:57.12 | jaami | ectospasm, i think the path is making problem because of // that i dont know where android got those. so that is the reason file is not found . |
| 19:58.03 | jaami | ectospasm, there is a button to launch the emulator when i click i get error. |
| 19:58.39 | ectospasm | I'd be surprised if there's a double slash causing that problem. |
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| 19:59.44 | nimitz | how to change the gtk default mousewheel speed? |
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| 20:00.59 | jaami | hmm, you have read the error message and the echo command output. i dont know what to do now. those helper libs are still mystery |
| 20:01.52 | xreal | Debian Squeeze is missing ghc-doc virtual package... that makes much trouble. |
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| 20:10.56 | jaami | ectospasm, may be home directory is the issue. i will copy android folder to /usr/local/bin and check |
| 20:12.52 | jhutchins | HicksD_: Didn't work that way for me, I had to add an entry. Nothing created usb entries for me. |
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| 20:13.59 | HicksD_ | odd |
| 20:14.30 | HicksD_ | I'm installing wheezy on another machine atm, I'll check what the defaults in fstab are |
| 20:14.47 | HicksD_ | but I'm pretty sure I didn't add any to mine and had two entries already there. |
| 20:15.06 | jhutchins | HicksD_: Maybe you had things plugged in when you installed? |
| 20:15.16 | jaami | how is it possible that i have permission on a parent folder and have no permission to open child folder! |
| 20:15.23 | HicksD_ | possibly |
| 20:15.53 | HicksD_ | either way I had to remove those entires before it would mount without permission issues |
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| 20:16.25 | HicksD_ | can't really suggest anything else :) |
| 20:16.54 | ompaul | jaami: ls -al child and look at its permissions and look at its children's permissions and the ownership of all |
| 20:17.48 | SpeCon | hello is there any possibility to reinstall mac osx on my computer? I installed Debian on it the PPC version (this is an old ibook G4) the computer is using yaboot to boot up in debian. I tried to put my osx origional cd in it, rebooted the computer but i can't get into an installation process for mac osx. Is my computer fucked up now ? |
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| 20:18.35 | ompaul | SpeCon: you mean is the install media broken? |
| 20:18.58 | SpeCon | no i mean can i reinstall osx on it ? cause i'm not so satisfied about this PPC version of debian |
| 20:19.23 | SpeCon | i installed debian weezy PPC power PC version on it |
| 20:19.53 | SpeCon | when i reboot this apple computer normaly you can press the C button and you need to hold it down to boot a CD (iso) |
| 20:20.11 | SpeCon | but even that doesn't work i get immidiatly into yaboot (a bootloader for PPC) |
| 20:20.25 | ompaul | SpeCon: debian does not prevent you from installing osx if that is what is behind your question |
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| 20:20.37 | SpeCon | yeah |
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| 20:20.50 | SpeCon | but in yaboot you can choose 2 options |
| 20:20.57 | SpeCon | 1 is boot up on the hardisk |
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| 20:21.03 | SpeCon | C is boot cd rom |
| 20:21.15 | SpeCon | when i do C it doesn't do anything |
| 20:21.20 | ompaul | perhaps your cd itse;f is dead |
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| 20:21.28 | jhutchins | SpeCon: You might have a bad cd or drive. |
| 20:21.39 | ompaul | but it's not a debian question is a mac question |
| 20:21.41 | SpeCon | can't be cause i installed debian yesterday wich worked |
| 20:22.00 | ompaul | eh ... that does not show causality about your os/x disk |
| 20:22.02 | SpeCon | but eummm at the installation of debian it asked me where to install it (what partition) |
| 20:22.11 | SpeCon | and i selected take the whole free space |
| 20:22.21 | SpeCon | so i hope that doesn't damaged anything |
| 20:22.35 | HicksD_ | try holding cmd,option,shift delete when booting up with the cd in |
| 20:22.40 | HicksD_ | that'sthe other boot option I think |
| 20:23.13 | SpeCon | i don't have an option button :) |
| 20:23.20 | ompaul | and again this is all hardware support mac world not debian related |
| 20:23.24 | SpeCon | fn ctrl alt cmd |
| 20:23.33 | SpeCon | ompaul i know |
| 20:23.38 | jhutchins | HicksD_: Well, given that you could theoretically replace the hard disk in the PPC, the recovery disk should be able to restore it, but you're going to have to figure out how to override yaboot. |
| 20:23.53 | HicksD_ | You mean SpeCon :) |
| 20:24.00 | jhutchins | HicksD_: sorry, I do that all the time. |
| 20:24.05 | SpeCon | only thing i need to know is that when i was installing debian on the full free partition i just hope it doesn't erased something |
| 20:24.24 | ompaul | it wrote something |
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| 20:24.29 | SpeCon | it could be i deleted a partition wich is needed by the computer to run mac osx |
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| 20:24.42 | HicksD_ | best to find a mac related channel |
| 20:24.53 | marshall_ | did you create the partition to install debian? |
| 20:25.12 | SpeCon | marshall i didn't create a new partition for debian |
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| 20:25.20 | SpeCon | i selected the first option |
| 20:25.25 | SpeCon | to install it fully on my disk |
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| 20:25.34 | SpeCon | i saw a few partitions |
| 20:25.39 | marshall_ | sounds like you overwrite it |
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| 20:25.53 | SpeCon | yes it could be that it overwrite it all |
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| 20:26.01 | jhutchins | SpeCon: Again, you should be able to restore to a blank disk if your install disk is good. |
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| 20:26.41 | SpeCon | i will try again i have tried osx 10.6 |
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| 20:26.51 | SpeCon | but i installed it without problems the osx 10.3 |
| 20:26.55 | SpeCon | wich i also have |
| 20:27.00 | SpeCon | so lets hope so :) |
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| 20:27.04 | ompaul | SpeCon: this is not a debian issue, if you can't resolve it I'm sure the nice people in the apple store will help |
| 20:27.09 | HicksD_ | 10.6 won't work on ppc will it |
| 20:27.14 | HicksD_ | I thought that required intel cpu? |
| 20:27.15 | SpeCon | ompaul k |
| 20:27.16 | ompaul | that's mac help |
| 20:27.20 | SpeCon | ah |
| 20:27.22 | SpeCon | could be yes |
| 20:27.31 | ompaul | now you are well off topic |
| 20:27.33 | HicksD_ | and as ompaul said, not really debian :) |
| 20:27.41 | teraflop | SpeCon: you "cant" install 10.6 on ppc |
| 20:27.42 | SpeCon | anyhow thanks for your help |
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| 20:27.52 | SpeCon | will try 10.3 again then |
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| 20:28.01 | jhutchins | SpeCon: The Debian part was assuring him that nothing Debian did would prevent restoring OSX. |
| 20:28.13 | SpeCon | but 10.3 you can't do anything with the computer then not even browsing its to old lol |
| 20:28.15 | teraflop | SpeCon: up to 10.5.8 |
| 20:28.16 | ompaul | which was done right at the beginning |
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| 20:28.24 | SpeCon | jhutchins yeah |
| 20:28.34 | SpeCon | bbl |
| 20:28.36 | ompaul | so this one is over, dead, buried, an ex topic |
| 20:28.38 | ompaul | !next |
| 20:28.39 | dpkg | rattles the #debian tip jar (http://www.debian.org/donations) |
| 20:28.47 | SpeCon | lol paul |
| 20:29.06 | marshall_ | seems there is a #macosx channel on here |
| 20:29.19 | marshall_ | they may be able to help |
| 20:29.31 | teraflop | marshall_: a trivial search is enough |
| 20:29.40 | teraflop | you "cant" install 10.6 on ppc |
| 20:29.49 | jhutchins | teraflop: Why quotes? |
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| 20:30.29 | teraflop | a kind of vissual effect |
| 20:30.41 | acr | hi |
| 20:31.00 | jhutchins | teraflop: Underscores or asterisks are perhaps better understood. |
| 20:31.06 | acr | why /.pulse directory created? |
| 20:31.15 | teraflop | ok jhutchins |
| 20:31.20 | mjt | acr: because of a bug |
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| 20:34.25 | acr | mjt, really? |
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| 20:35.07 | jennie | ok, how do I open directory in terminal having name ## TUTORIALS ## |
| 20:35.25 | jennie | I am trying to do cd ## TUTORIALS ## but aint working |
| 20:35.29 | teraflop | "" |
| 20:36.10 | teraflop | looks at jhutchins ^^ |
| 20:36.19 | jennie | I have to write directory name inside quotes ? |
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| 20:36.44 | teraflop | try |
| 20:36.57 | jennie | Oh yeah, it works |
| 20:36.58 | jennie | thanks |
| 20:37.01 | teraflop | yw |
| 20:37.10 | SpeCon | by the way |
| 20:37.17 | SpeCon | i got a debian question lol ;) |
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| 20:37.29 | mjt | how about using a tab key? |
| 20:37.32 | SpeCon | i wouldn't reinstall osx if that wireless connection would work on debian |
| 20:37.46 | ompaul | !airport |
| 20:37.46 | dpkg | AirPort is a brand of wireless LAN products from Apple Inc. For support of the original AirPort Card (802.11b), ask me about <orinoco>. For support of AirPort Extreme (802.11g) cards, ask me about <b43>. For support of integrated AirPort Extreme 802.11a/b/g and /n devices, ask me about <what's my hardware>, then ask about either <ath5k>, <ath9k> (Atheros), <b43> or <wl> (Broadcom). |
| 20:37.52 | SpeCon | i bought today a dlink 131 usb adapter because debian won't work with airport extreme card |
| 20:38.06 | SpeCon | and i can't get it to fix on debian ;) |
| 20:38.18 | SpeCon | b43 i tried |
| 20:38.27 | wols | SpeCon: start with the USB IDs |
| 20:38.43 | ompaul | SpeCon: read the links that the bot pasted and then do this /msg dpkg b43 or whatever as needed |
| 20:38.45 | SpeCon | yeah i bought that usb stick today so i wan't it to use :) |
| 20:39.23 | SpeCon | ok |
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| 20:48.34 | carsonc | Is there a Right Way to back up movie DVDs in Debian? |
| 20:49.02 | carsonc | Used the dvdbackup package, but it complained about my DVDs ending too early. (?) |
| 20:49.23 | carsonc | Is this a software error, or is my DVD drive dying, or...? |
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| 21:02.40 | jhutchins | carsonc: Could just be DRM. |
| 21:03.21 | jhutchins | carsonc: I've had good luck with dd if=/dev/dvd of=output.iso - but like I say, luck, didn't hit any DRM that messed with that. |
| 21:03.35 | carsonc | jhutchins: I installed libdvdcss so I think I should be okay for a commercial DVD |
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| 21:04.10 | jhutchins | carsonc: Some DRM schemes deliberately break the iso standards and make the DVD unreadable by anything except licensed devices. |
| 21:05.09 | jhutchins | carsonc: ...So it's hard to say whether it's the discs or the software that's at fault. You could try playing the disc and see if it plays correctly all the way through, then try using the backup you made. |
| 21:05.15 | wjtaylor | I lost sound after upgrading to wheezy. I'm using gnome fallback session. How do I get sound back? |
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| 21:18.04 | [SkG] | I need Wine >=1.7.8, anyone knows a non-official repo for it? (I can compile it but... dont really want to) |
| 21:18.10 | [SkG] | (I use sid) |
| 21:20.39 | carsonc | Given that Wine 1.7.8 was only released a little over a week ago, I think you're going to have to compile it. |
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| 21:21.32 | carsonc | Though http://www.winehq.org/download has a Debian package (caveat: I have not tested) |
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| 21:24.25 | [SkG] | packages from there carsonc are 1.5.1 |
| 21:24.31 | [SkG] | 1.5.5* |
| 21:25.14 | [SkG] | I'm probably using the wine team ubuntu ppa, lets see if works |
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| 21:27.19 | amphi | probably> |
| 21:27.20 | amphi | ? |
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| 21:28.14 | [SkG] | if works |
| 21:28.18 | [SkG] | I mean |
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| 21:29.52 | porton | Why scala package was removed from Debian? |
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| 21:31.30 | rudi_s | porton: scala is each Debian release. |
| 21:31.31 | Kiril | hello guys |
| 21:31.32 | porton | ... It isn't present in testing distribution |
| 21:31.41 | porton | http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=scala |
| 21:31.42 | rudi_s | *is in |
| 21:31.42 | Kiril | i've got an issue with date |
| 21:32.05 | Kiril | http://paste2.org/pkapcMLa |
| 21:32.07 | rudi_s | !why is scala not in testing |
| 21:32.07 | dpkg | scala is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=scala |
| 21:32.11 | rudi_s | porton: ^ |
| 21:32.18 | Kiril | still doesn't give me an right date |
| 21:32.21 | Kiril | why's that ? |
| 21:32.42 | rudi_s | Kiril: What timezone did you expect? It's CET in Europe. |
| 21:32.56 | Kiril | yes |
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| 21:33.16 | Kiril | CET should be but it's not |
| 21:33.29 | porton | Can anyone explain WHY scala is scheduled for removal? |
| 21:33.38 | rudi_s | Kiril: ? |
| 21:33.51 | rudi_s | porton: Well, read it? |
| 21:34.03 | rudi_s | http://release.debian.org/britney/hints/auto-removals |
| 21:34.03 | porton | rudi_s: Yes, something called auto-removal |
| 21:34.08 | rudi_s | So, read it. |
| 21:34.12 | rudi_s | # 720569 |
| 21:34.12 | rudi_s | remove scala/2.9.2+dfsg-1 |
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| 21:34.35 | rudi_s | Which means Bug 720569: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=720569 |
| 21:34.38 | porton | rudi_s: But WHY? |
| 21:35.04 | rudi_s | Kiril: Are you sure your clock is set correctly? |
| 21:35.41 | rudi_s | And the reason why it's about to be removed from testing, is auto-removal: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2013/09/msg00006.html |
| 21:35.59 | rudi_s | Your favorite search-engine would've told you the same in no-time ... |
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| 21:36.56 | rudi_s | Well, you're welcome ... |
| 21:37.16 | rudi_s | Glad I could help ... |
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| 21:46.41 | shagelito | Greetings. I followed a tutorial to get wine working. On the tutorials, i have been asked to run sudo apt-get remove --purge wine*. A HUGE AMOUNT OF UNRELATED FILE have been removed. Is there a way to fix all the mess it gave me ? |
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| 21:47.12 | Taiiwo | Hi. |
| 21:47.34 | Taiiwo | I'm having a problem with my flash player. Where can I find logs so I can see what's wrong? |
| 21:47.53 | Kiril | rudi_s, the problem is date show me wrong info |
| 21:47.54 | Kiril | Sun Dec 15 16:39:49 CET 2013 |
| 21:48.00 | Kiril | this show me in the moment |
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| 21:48.15 | Taiiwo | (Using the non-free flashplayer, not gnash) |
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| 21:48.44 | Kiril | right info is Sunday, 15 December 2013, 22:48:41 CET |
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| 21:48.49 | rudi_s | shagelito: Are you sure you needed those files? I guess they were automatically installed packages. |
| 21:48.53 | rudi_s | Kiril: Fix your clock. |
| 21:49.00 | rudi_s | With ntp for example. |
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| 21:50.00 | Kiril | 15 Dec 16:42:09 ntpdate[14263]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting |
| 21:50.01 | Kiril | :) |
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| 21:50.25 | shagelito | rudi_s: http://pastebin.com/rm16BUJ7 |
| 21:50.51 | rudi_s | Kiril: Hm. The clock is still wrong. |
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| 21:51.11 | ConnorM | hello |
| 21:51.18 | Kiril | rudi_s of course |
| 21:51.28 | leonlemouton | https://addons.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/addon/youtube-all-html5/?src=api |
| 21:51.29 | rudi_s | Kiril: So fix it? |
| 21:51.36 | ConnorM | can someone help me with http://paste.debian.net/71031/, it happened when I did apt-get upgrade :/ |
| 21:51.45 | rudi_s | shagelito: Well, reinstall all those packages which were installed. |
| 21:51.45 | Kiril | rudi_s hahaah |
| 21:51.51 | Kiril | do you have an idea how ? |
| 21:52.26 | rudi_s | Kiril: I'm not talking about the time zone. The clock is of by a few minutes at least. So correct that first. Either with NTP or manually with date. |
| 21:53.21 | shagelito | rudi_s: but what went wrong with the command found on the official debian website ?? |
| 21:53.32 | rudi_s | shagelito: Which website was that? |
| 21:53.47 | shagelito | http://www.debian-fr.org/installer-wine-sous-wheezy-64-bits-t43092.html |
| 21:53.49 | rudi_s | I'm not sure, but apt-get asks you before it removes any packages. You must've said yes. |
| 21:53.50 | shagelito | second command |
| 21:53.57 | rudi_s | Well, that's not an official debian website. |
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| 21:54.24 | wjtaylor | anyone have sound issues after upgrading to 7? |
| 21:54.29 | shagelito | rudi_s: okay. But to me, wine* include all packet starting by "wine" |
| 21:54.32 | shagelito | not the rest |
| 21:54.39 | shagelito | what am i missing there |
| 21:54.57 | Taiiwo | Am I in the right channel to ask about non-free flashplayer problems? |
| 21:55.19 | rudi_s | shagelito: You're missing the output from apt-get which tells you what it will remove. apt tracks packages which are only installed because they are required for something else. And those get removed as well. |
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| 21:56.21 | pengunix | hi |
| 21:56.29 | shagelito | woa |
| 21:57.23 | ConnorM | anyone able to help? I think it's something to do /usr/share/phpbb3/maint-libs/webapps-config (http://paste.debian.net/71033/) |
| 21:57.59 | ConnorM | can't use apt-get install at all |
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| 22:02.59 | viwal_ | Hi one question, I have installed vsftpd and can see it in my system but there is no config file in /etc/ as well as I can't see any service called vsftpd |
| 22:03.05 | viwal_ | any idea please ? |
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| 22:06.12 | leonlemouton | viwal_ : http://linux.developpez.com/vsftpd/ |
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| 22:07.51 | ConnorM | meh fixed it |
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| 22:08.14 | viwal_ | problem is after installation in /etc/ is nothing called vsftpd |
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| 22:08.34 | leonlemouton | find /etc -name "vsftpd.conf" |
| 22:09.15 | viwal_ | nothing |
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| 22:11.12 | leonlemouton | viwal_ http://elinux.org/RPi_Noob_Guide_for_Wheezy_and_vsftpd |
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| 22:12.24 | viwal_ | leonlemouton : lol OK leon thank pretty much! |
| 22:12.31 | leonlemouton | ;-) |
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| 22:15.36 | adam_ | hey; anyone available to help troubleshoot a networking issue? I have a QCA8172 Fast Ethernet controller on my laptop, with a fresh install of Debian Wheezy. Wireless works, wired connections don't. I've compiled+installed the alx driver from backports, as was suggested in numerous places online; the driver's loaded; it's present in lsmod, but eth0 isn't showing up as an interface. Ideas? |
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| 22:18.19 | leonlemouton | adam_ http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/wicd |
| 22:19.05 | adam_ | just install that? |
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| 22:21.17 | adam_ | leonlemouton: Is there anything else I'll need to do after I install it? |
| 22:21.27 | leonlemouton | nothing |
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| 22:21.43 | leonlemouton | it's work for me |
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| 22:22.17 | adam_ | leonlemouton: still not seeing eth0 in ifconfig though.. |
| 22:22.30 | Ododo | hello, what is the best way to have libc >= 2.14 , when i installed packets from experimental, i destroyed my system :( |
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| 22:22.37 | supp3r | whats the linux kernel version for the latest debian release, 7.3? |
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| 22:23.06 | leonlemouton | adam_ nano /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:23.23 | adam_ | allow-hotplug eth0 |
| 22:23.26 | adam_ | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 22:23.29 | adam_ | auto lo |
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| 22:23.31 | adam_ | iface lo inet loopback |
| 22:23.39 | leonlemouton | https://wiki.debian.org/fr/WiFi/HowToUse#Wicd in french sorry |
| 22:23.41 | adam_ | The top two I adde dmsyelf |
| 22:23.47 | adam_ | meh; I'm in Quebec so not an issue |
| 22:24.25 | leonlemouton | adam_ France work's |
| 22:24.35 | leonlemouton | ;-) |
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| 22:25.04 | leonlemouton | http://wiki.debian-facile.org/doc:reseau:wifi |
| 22:25.58 | leonlemouton | http://wiki.debian-facile.org/doc:reseau:interfaces:wifi |
| 22:26.08 | adam_ | ah; but i have wifi |
| 22:26.12 | adam_ | I don't have wired |
| 22:26.18 | adam_ | that's the issue |
| 22:26.29 | leonlemouton | look on the second links |
| 22:26.37 | LtL | adam_: try commenting line 2 |
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| 22:27.27 | LtL | adam_: allow-hotplug eth0 should be enough |
| 22:27.40 | adam_ | LtL: already done; doens't seem to have change danything |
| 22:27.51 | LtL | adam_: restart networking |
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| 22:28.00 | adam_ | LtL: already did; still no eth0 in ifconfig |
| 22:28.13 | LtL | adam_: ifup eth0 |
| 22:28.26 | adam_ | ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0 |
| 22:28.41 | LtL | hrm |
| 22:28.47 | leonlemouton | service networking restart |
| 22:28.58 | leonlemouton | http://wiki.debian-facile.org/doc:reseau:interfaces |
| 22:29.13 | adam_ | still no eth0 |
| 22:29.30 | yann-kaelig | lol they kill debian wtf steam os is a full joke |
| 22:29.31 | leonlemouton | ifup eth0 |
| 22:29.43 | adam_ | ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0 |
| 22:29.44 | LtL | adam_: is eth0 mentioned in dmesg |
| 22:29.51 | adam_ | no |
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| 22:29.59 | leonlemouton | ifup eth1 |
| 22:30.02 | leonlemouton | ;-) |
| 22:30.08 | adam_ | lol, unfortuantely no |
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| 22:31.33 | Ododo | yann-kaelig: it is a linux that requiere 4go of RAM to work |
| 22:32.00 | yann-kaelig | lol |
| 22:33.26 | Ododo | i wonder what rms thinks about it |
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| 22:33.58 | wsky | same stuff he thinks about osx, most likely |
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| 22:34.55 | yann-kaelig | is this the futur of gnu/linux ? a big mess of a challenged wh |
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| 22:35.21 | Ododo | can't they add in the end of the debian's licence : "but not for valve softwares" |
| 22:35.35 | LtL | adam_: is your ethernet listed in 'lspci' |
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| 22:36.26 | yann-kaelig | ich one will integrated the most stupid distribution |
| 22:36.31 | tertu | all the steam stuff in steamos is proprietary, yeah |
| 22:36.44 | adam_ | LtL: yes |
| 22:36.56 | adam_ | LtL: Ahterois COmmunications Inc. Device 10a0 (rev 10) |
| 22:37.21 | LtL | adam_: do a lspci -nn .. whats the pci id. you may not have the module loaded |
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| 22:38.00 | adam_ | 01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Atheros Communciatiosn Inc. Device [1969:10a0] (rev 10) |
| 22:38.14 | LtL | adam_: got firmware-atheros installed? |
| 22:38.32 | LtL | ,pciid 1969:10a0 |
| 22:38.33 | judd | [1969:10a0] is 'QCA8172 Fast Ethernet' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with no known kernel module in wheezy but has kernel module 'alx' in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1969:10a0 |
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| 22:38.54 | LtL | adam_: thats the problem. try a newer kernel |
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| 22:39.14 | adam_ | LtL: Ah. I did compile alx myself and it does seem to be loaded. |
| 22:39.23 | adam_ | LtL: But, it's just incomptaible? |
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| 22:40.29 | LtL | adam_: i couln't say, i would think it'd work. apparently not. won't hurt to install a newer kernel to try |
| 22:40.30 | adam_ | LtL: Oh wow. Atheros firmware seems ot have done something |
| 22:40.37 | adam_ | LtL: I now have an eth0... |
| 22:40.50 | adam_ | LtL: Sigh. Of course, it was in the package manager the entire time :( |
| 22:40.57 | LtL | adam_: excellent |
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| 22:41.04 | adam_ | brb; will plug this comp's ethernet cable into laptop |
| 22:41.18 | Bhaal666 | Finding Whonix users! |
| 22:41.24 | Bhaal666 | Are you here? |
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| 22:42.30 | leonlemouton | https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 22:43.15 | leonlemouton | http://www.commentcamarche.net/faq/7780-faire-fonctionner-une-carte-wifi-atheros |
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| 22:43.33 | adam__ | LtL: Nope; false alarm. Was the iphone plugged in at the same time |
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| 22:44.44 | LtL | adam__: i would try a backported kernel 3.10 i believe |
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| 22:45.13 | LtL | adam__: you'll still have the current kernel, nothing to lose |
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| 22:45.43 | LtL | adam__: btw- new firmware requires a reboot |
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| 22:47.17 | yann-kaelig | they kill debian a second time. lol uefi needed and only nvidia driver. systemd ? |
| 22:47.32 | adam__ | LtL: Oh. A reboot? Interesting. I'll try that. Also, thanks for the tip about the 3.10 vs, the 3.13. I'll give it a try |
| 22:47.57 | LtL | adam__: best of luck, it something should work |
| 22:48.08 | LtL | -it |
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| 22:53.34 | yann-kaelig | and linus is happy for libre and opensource from this shit ? really or what i'm reading from this web ste |
| 22:53.52 | yann-kaelig | site is a 1 april joke |
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| 22:55.34 | abrotman | yann-kaelig: do you need help with Debian ? |
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| 22:57.05 | nevyn | Ododo: everything would then fail DFSG |
| 22:57.11 | nevyn | (debian specific) |
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| 22:57.42 | yann-kaelig | not now thx. |
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| 22:58.22 | dvs | Ha. No one changed the topic yet. |
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| 22:58.43 | abrotman | for 7.3 ? |
| 22:58.48 | dvs | yup |
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| 22:59.14 | abrotman | is there a 7.3 factoid yet? |
| 22:59.27 | dvs | hmmm... dunno |
| 22:59.35 | dvs | I guess that would help, eh? |
| 22:59.44 | themill | there is, yes |
| 23:00.08 | dvs | So there is. |
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| 23:18.19 | Jan\ | so uh, i think xserver crashed and restarted, the screen went black and it asked me to login again, i login then there isnt any app running |
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| 23:18.59 | wsky | Jan\: so? |
| 23:19.22 | Jan\ | wsky: so how do I find out the cause ^ |
| 23:19.25 | Jan\ | ? |
| 23:19.31 | wsky | Jan\: logs |
| 23:19.42 | Jan\ | wsky: logs where ^ |
| 23:19.43 | Jan\ | ? |
| 23:19.46 | wsky | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:19.58 | wsky | or actuallt |
| 23:20.01 | wsky | actually |
| 23:20.07 | wsky | /var/log/Xorg.1.log in this case |
| 23:20.10 | mjt | Xorg.0.log is the log for the new session |
| 23:20.16 | wsky | yeah |
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| 23:20.21 | mjt | you may want Xorg.0.log.1 |
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| 23:20.33 | mjt | or .old |
| 23:20.35 | *** topic/#debian by themill -> wheezy released: /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy | current point release: /msg dpkg 7.3 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) |
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| 23:20.51 | mjt | but i'd look at dmesg first |
| 23:21.10 | carsonc | dmesg is your friend. |
| 23:21.19 | Jan\ | whats dmesg ? |
| 23:21.21 | mjt | any 'segmentation fault' in there |
| 23:21.39 | wsky | Jan\: it's a program that displays system messages |
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| 23:21.46 | mjt | not system. kernel. |
| 23:21.53 | mjt | but it's shown in the manpage |
| 23:21.55 | abrotman | !enter |
| 23:21.55 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 23:22.14 | wsky | mjt: well kernel is a part of the system, innit? |
| 23:22.37 | mjt | system messages include much more than just kernel |
| 23:22.57 | wsky | okay. |
| 23:23.35 | mjt | but even if there will be some "crashes" in there, it will unlikely be much helpful ;) |
| 23:23.49 | Jan\ | from the .old log: [347588.633] Bus error at address 0xb5d13000 [347588.633] Caught signal 7 (Bus error). Server aborting |
| 23:23.57 | mjt | bus error, yeah |
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| 23:24.22 | mjt | the same level as sigsegv. a bug somewere ;) |
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| 23:24.44 | Jan\ | sigsegv ? |
| 23:25.18 | mjt | basically invalid memory access |
| 23:25.50 | Jan\ | you think with richland I<ll get that error too ? |
| 23:26.19 | mjt | i think there's no bug-free system |
| 23:26.21 | shagelito | greetings #debian. I have a very odd problem. I originaly dowloaded a debian wheezy distro. I then had this stupid idea to mix my repo with kali ones. One day, my spalsh screen changed to kali. So i went here to ask what the hell happend, and how to fix the problem. Then, i have been told that my distro was UBUNTU, so i had to seek help there. in #Ubuntu, i have then been told that i was actulay runing a kali distro. then i had to |
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| 23:26.51 | Jan\ | mjt: so wht can be done about this bus error? |
| 23:26.54 | carsonc | shagelito: I think you are basically screwed and should just start over. |
| 23:27.17 | wsky | Jan\: it would be more helpfull if you'd show us the entire log |
| 23:27.26 | shagelito | thks carsonc ... maybeanother call over here ? |
| 23:27.26 | wsky | Jan\: using a pastebit of sme sort |
| 23:27.34 | wsky | some* |
| 23:27.57 | mjt | xorg logs don't have stack traces usually (at least i don't remember seeing one) |
| 23:28.05 | Bhaal666 | hi all. i am from Russia. In russian language we only have Debian manual dated 2005 year. I think it is veri Big differeces in OS from 2005 till now. I must read in english to study it well? Please, answer |
| 23:28.34 | wsky | mjt: it'd perhaps tell us which module is causing the problem |
| 23:28.36 | mjt | Jan\: does it happen often or just once? |
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| 23:28.54 | Jan\ | mjt: happened once so far http://pastebin.com/4wEhTmYr |
| 23:29.11 | carsonc | Bhaal666: Good thing about Debian is that it doesn't change much |
| 23:29.13 | mjt | Jan\: if it jappened just once, it is _very_ unlikely you'll be able to do anything with it |
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| 23:29.34 | mjt | Jan\: because in order to be able to, it needs to be reproducible |
| 23:29.52 | Jan\ | mjt: the issue is probly more the fault of flash and iceweasel 17 |
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| 23:30.09 | mjt | it shouln't crash X |
| 23:30.12 | Jan\ | mjt: how do I upgrade iceweasel ? |
| 23:30.15 | carsonc | Bhaal666: If you have specific questions, here is the place to ask. |
| 23:30.15 | abrotman | Bhaal666: check debian,org, there are russian documents there |
| 23:30.22 | mjt | there's actually a backtrace here. |
| 23:30.28 | shagelito | so there is no way to try to fix the problem ? |
| 23:30.34 | carsonc | Bhaal666: http://www.debian.org/index.ru.html |
| 23:30.46 | jelly-home | Bhaal666: if french is an option, http://raphaelhertzog.fr/livre/cahier-admin-debian/ |
| 23:30.46 | mjt | shagelito: there is, but you have to be quite a bit more expirienced in there |
| 23:30.56 | Jan\ | mjt: when I go to synaptic package manager I can't upgrade iceweasel it says I have the last version 17 |
| 23:31.03 | abrotman | shagelito: this doesn't seem to be related to Debian at all .. Kali and Debian packages aren't meant to work together |
| 23:31.09 | mjt | shagelito: think that you installed half of windows7 on top of windows XP |
| 23:31.25 | abrotman | shagelito: you're not using any single distro, you're using a clusterfuck of mismatched packages that no one will want to support |
| 23:31.46 | carsonc | Jan\: 17.0.10 appears to be the most recent version in stable, yes |
| 23:31.53 | mjt | Jan\: that prob has nothing to do with iceweasel update |
| 23:31.59 | Bhaal666 | thank you guys. but i know about it. and it is document from 2005 year. or 2007 |
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| 23:32.18 | Jan\ | but firefox is at v 22 I think |
| 23:32.37 | solrize | i have LC_ALL=C and apt-get upgrade says |
| 23:32.42 | solrize | Setting up install-info (4.13a.dfsg.1-10) ... |
| 23:32.43 | solrize | /etc/default/locale: line 2: C: command not found |
| 23:32.45 | mjt | Bhaal666: what's the manual url? |
| 23:32.50 | shagelito | i see exactly what are you saying. So maybe a magic command who clean the mess ? :D |
| 23:32.50 | solrize | any idea? |
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| 23:33.05 | mjt | solrize: syntax error |
| 23:33.29 | solrize | the file contents are |
| 23:33.35 | solrize | # File generated by update-locale |
| 23:33.35 | solrize | C |
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| 23:34.33 | mjt | solrize: it should not be like that |
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| 23:34.34 | mjt | # File generated by update-locale |
| 23:34.34 | mjt | LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8 |
| 23:34.42 | solrize | hmmm |
| 23:34.44 | mjt | it should have variable assignment |
| 23:35.15 | mjt | so blame whomever generated that file (hint: it was unlikely update-locale) |
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| 23:35.28 | solrize | i can't even find the update-locale program |
| 23:35.55 | solrize | $ export LC_ALL=UTF-8 |
| 23:35.56 | solrize | -bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (UTF-8): No such file or directory |
| 23:36.01 | solrize | yeah something seems broken |
| 23:36.18 | mjt | sure, because syntax error |
| 23:36.20 | solrize | i guess i can trash the whole system and reinstall but that's drastic |
| 23:36.30 | mjt | you may continue trying various stupid thing |
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| 23:36.57 | solrize | hmm i checked another system and it didn't have anything after the comment |
| 23:37.04 | solrize | so i'll try changing it on this box |
| 23:37.06 | abrotman | LANG=C |
| 23:37.31 | mjt | actually, empty LANG= should be sufficient already |
| 23:38.00 | Bhaal666 | mjt: http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/reference.ru.pdf |
| 23:38.00 | mjt | were's the syntax for $LANG described? |
| 23:38.14 | mjt | oh ma |
| 23:38.33 | Jan\ | how can i install firefox to replace iceweasel? |
| 23:38.50 | Bhaal666 | mjt: or http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/index.ru.html |
| 23:38.58 | rryoumaa | Jan\: why? |
| 23:39.01 | carsonc | Jan\: Why? Iceweasel *IS* Firefox, without the branding. |
| 23:39.14 | mjt | to install a more recent version |
| 23:39.24 | Jan\ | because its more up to date |
| 23:39.40 | solrize | just leaving it empty seems to have let the upgrade run, though changing LC_ALL still failed the same way |
| 23:39.51 | HicksD_ | http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
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| 23:40.16 | solrize | so i ran apt-get upgrade and it downloaded some new stuff.. does that mean i'm running 7.3 now? |
| 23:40.23 | carsonc | "Up to date" != "morally superior" |
| 23:40.30 | HicksD_ | if you want updates |
| 23:40.38 | rryoumaa | up to date can mean more compatible |
| 23:40.58 | carsonc | rryoumaa: It can also mean less compatible. |
| 23:41.08 | rryoumaa | indeed |
| 23:41.16 | HicksD_ | Only thing I've seen that'd be handy from the latest is the h264 support |
| 23:41.54 | mjt | Bhaal666: take a look at http://qref.sourceforge.net/ -- it is the SAME document on all supported languages. |
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| 23:42.39 | LtL | solrize: uname -r |
| 23:42.45 | mjt | Bhaal666: btw, it looks like you don't really have issues with english, do you? :) То есть, вроде-как у вас получается использовать английский язык, проблем быть не должно? :) |
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| 23:43.24 | solrize | LtL that just gives the kernel version |
| 23:43.56 | LtL | solrize: lsb_release -a |
| 23:44.14 | mjt | heh. It is actually a good question. "It d/loaded some updates, does it mean I'm updated?" |
| 23:44.15 | carsonc | Angliskyi yazyk is the only yazyk |
| 23:44.16 | solrize | Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.3 (wheezy) |
| 23:44.20 | solrize | nice! thanks |
| 23:44.39 | wsky | mjt: i wonder would i gavariu pa ruski if my russian teacher were not such arseholes |
| 23:44.45 | solrize | the kernel is still 2.6.something since it's an openvz container |
| 23:44.46 | wsky | teachers* |
| 23:45.11 | mjt | solrize: that just means you have latest base-files packages installed :) |
| 23:45.14 | wsky | they knew how to discourage people to themselves |
| 23:45.16 | carsonc | wsky: My Russian teacher was actually Moldovan. She wasn't an arsehole, but we did watch lots of Russian movies. |
| 23:45.34 | wsky | carsonc: mine had constant pms |
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| 23:45.48 | Bhaal666 | mjt: sorry, i am a newbie.i work out that it is old by http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-codenames |
| 23:46.02 | carsonc | Although we did have student who was Belorussian with an inferiority complex |
| 23:46.13 | Bhaal666 | the last is Sid. |
| 23:46.25 | mjt | Bhaal666: sid is always the last. |
| 23:46.34 | wsky | carsonc: in normall gonditions, they should fire half of them, but, not here, he're they're grat teachers. |
| 23:46.36 | mjt | Bhaal666: because it liked to crash other toys |
| 23:46.39 | wsky | conditions* |
| 23:46.41 | shagelito | so to be quite sure. On debian wheezy, if uname -a returns me Linux Hal 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 17 18:16:28 UTC 2013 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 23:46.46 | shagelito | it means im screwed |
| 23:46.48 | shagelito | right ? |
| 23:46.55 | solrize | i've been using fedora 19 on my workstation and debian 7 on servers... but i'm thinking of switching to debian for the desktop too |
| 23:46.59 | Bhaal666 | pre -last is Etch |
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| 23:47.14 | mjt | shagelito: that just means you're running kernel from ubuntu |
| 23:47.16 | jelly-home | shagelito: yes, that is not a Debian kernel. |
| 23:47.26 | shagelito | ok i got it |
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| 23:48.13 | mjt | Bhaal666: what i'm saying is that apparently there's no more recent manual on that site at all, because it is Etch on all other languages too, including English |
| 23:48.34 | abrotman | why isn't he using debian.org documents ? |
| 23:48.49 | mjt | no idea |
| 23:48.56 | Bhaal666 | mjt: i understood. manual info will work in wheezy? than you very much |
| 23:49.00 | jelly-home | because the web site is crap? |
| 23:49.01 | mjt | that's why i asked what url he's using |
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| 23:49.06 | wsky | Bhaal666: english documentation is the most comprehensive, i don't even use my native ones since they suck |
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| 23:49.38 | mjt | but yes, if there's a good hope to cope with english text, it is better to use english |
| 23:49.41 | Bhaal666 | wsky: i know, i must learn english to read extra new literature in it sphere |
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| 23:50.09 | wsky | Bhaal666: it seems you're good enough to just translate sigle words you haven't got in your dictionary |
| 23:50.11 | jelly-home | Bhaal666: well, English is the common language in IT |
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| 23:50.28 | jelly-home | ... until Mandarin takes over! |
| 23:50.38 | mjt | but the basic principles hasn't changed much since etch. some stuff is different (notable the X and gnome), but the basics are the same. |
| 23:50.49 | mjt | i wonder if they mention devfs :) |
| 23:51.06 | jelly-home | or udev or consolekit or NetworkManager |
| 23:51.16 | jelly-home | or aptitude |
| 23:51.18 | shagelito | so if i switch to the right kernel, that could do the trick ? |
| 23:51.23 | Bhaal666 | ok. i am starting to read. thank you guys! |
| 23:51.35 | jelly-home | shagelito: no, that's just one symptom |
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| 23:52.02 | mjt | shagelito: a distribution is a large collection of small components supposed to work together. You have a mix of several collections. |
| 23:52.10 | Jan\ | HicksD_: thx |
| 23:52.19 | jelly-home | !tell shagelito about wheezy sources.list |
| 23:52.26 | jelly-home | !tell shagelito about not available |
| 23:52.33 | mjt | it wont really help him |
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| 23:52.55 | jelly-home | shagelito: that will give you an idea how just how screwed the system is |
| 23:53.07 | ConnorM | how would I get libboost-random-dev on squeeze, when it's only availble for wheezy? |
| 23:53.10 | abrotman | perhaps it's best to point him at the netinst instead |
| 23:53.17 | mjt | his intention was to install wine on a 64bit system, and the prob was that he has 64bit libc6 installed from ubuntu which is of different version from wheezy's 32bit one. |
| 23:53.25 | jelly-home | mjt: it's not meant to help fixing the system, but help with convincing the user to do a reinstall |
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| 23:53.50 | mjt | i _can_ (probably) fix this mess, but i definitely wont |
| 23:54.03 | mjt | (and some others here too) |
| 23:54.15 | shagelito | i see. |
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| 23:54.38 | themill | ConnorM: perhaps this means that it's time to upgrade to wheezy |
| 23:54.52 | mjt | heh yeah |
| 23:55.08 | ConnorM | is it possible to upgrade without rebooting? |
| 23:55.23 | mjt | are you worrying about uptime? |
| 23:55.30 | ConnorM | nah it isn't my server |
| 23:55.50 | ConnorM | I'd rather stuff not go wrong if I were to do it too |
| 23:55.54 | mjt | it is unlikely to work without reboot. what kernel are you running? |
| 23:56.07 | ConnorM | 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 23:56.44 | mjt | so that's squeeze native kernel. i dunno (i sort of hoped it is something like backported 3.2) |
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| 23:57.31 | themill | ConnorM: I always consider rebooting to test out the new bootloader and kernel to be part of any upgrade process that involves them. If they're hosed for some reason (not that we'd expect them to be), I'd rather find out now rather than in some weeks time when I've forgotten what I did to the box |
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| 23:58.20 | ConnorM | hmm yeh |
| 23:58.24 | mjt | and when there's a power glitch and you need you box to be up _now_ |
| 23:58.36 | mjt | and there's no one around there to help |
| 23:58.53 | ConnorM | so is there any other options? |
| 23:59.18 | ConnorM | I've tried adding APT::Default-release "stable";, but this had no effect |
| 23:59.25 | ConnorM | (to apt.conf) |
