| 00:00.02 | mjt | sure there's another option: you can waste alot of time/energy now to find a workaround, and waste another time/energe later to upgrade... ;) |
| 00:00.34 | ConnorM | lol |
| 00:01.17 | mjt | current boost should be compipable on squeeze |
| 00:01.19 | themill | ConnorM: you could build and run whatever it is you're trying to compile inside a wheezy chroot on the squeeze machine. Not pretty but certainly functional. It does mean there's another (virtual) system that you now need to maintain. |
| 00:01.37 | mjt | yeah, that too |
| 00:02.15 | ConnorM | hmm |
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| 00:02.35 | ConnorM | well I get errors when compiling, and it points to libboost-random-dev |
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| 00:06.46 | mjt | !squeeze |
| 00:06.47 | dpkg | Squeeze is the codename for the current <oldstable> release, Debian 6.0, released on 2011-02-06: http://www.debian.org/News/2011/20110205a . Squeeze is the three-eyed space alien. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze and ask me about <install squeeze> <squeeze release notes> <lenny->squeeze>. Currently <6.0.8>. The Debian release is not to be confused with the <Xfce> archive manager. |
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| 00:09.04 | abrotman | ConnorM: why are you still using squeeze? |
| 00:09.13 | ConnorM | not my choice |
| 00:09.23 | ConnorM | I don't own the server |
| 00:09.44 | dvs | ConnorM: They won't have any security updates in three months. |
| 00:09.54 | ConnorM | oh |
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| 00:10.02 | abrotman | might want to get on that |
| 00:10.10 | ConnorM | is it troublesome to upgrade though? |
| 00:10.16 | abrotman | ideally not |
| 00:10.17 | jelly-home | dvs: six months |
| 00:10.21 | dvs | ConnorM: Not this time. |
| 00:10.32 | abrotman | wasn't it April ? |
| 00:10.38 | ConnorM | hm ok |
| 00:10.43 | dvs | jelly-home: Wasn't wheezy released in Feb? |
| 00:10.58 | abrotman | May says dpkg |
| 00:10.59 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell dvs about release history |
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| 00:11.11 | abrotman | and it's "approximately" one year |
| 00:11.42 | jelly-home | so it's twice as approximately six months, then |
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| 00:53.35 | Jobine | hello |
| 00:53.45 | Jobine | can someone help me, i'm kinda new at this? |
| 00:53.53 | dvs | !ask |
| 00:53.53 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 00:54.16 | Jobine | !ask |
| 00:54.17 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 00:54.59 | phy1729 | Jobine: it means ask your question |
| 00:55.04 | LtL | Jobine: what seems to be the problem |
| 00:55.09 | Jobine | I have a problem with Nvidia. I'm running debian version Jessie (Testing). When i try to install nvidia on my optimus laptop i get a black screen upon reboot. I expected it to automatically get optimus working. |
| 00:55.21 | Jobine | thansk for the non-robot reply |
| 00:55.48 | Jobine | I'm kinda new to linux, this is my first laptop with a nvidia video card |
| 00:55.54 | Jobine | Oh, my hardware is: |
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| 00:56.33 | Jobine | Lenovo Y410p (not a Thinkpad), Intel i7 4700MQ, Nvidia 750M, Intel HD4600 |
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| 00:56.47 | Jobine | Basically a bread-and-butter haswell laptop with a mid range nvidia card |
| 00:56.48 | LtL | Jobine: nvidia and optimus is all you needed to say. i'm anxious to hear an answer myself. |
| 00:56.58 | Jobine | nvidia optimus |
| 00:57.15 | Jobine | so are the bots supposed to answer me directly? |
| 00:57.32 | Jobine | ask! Nvidia optimus |
| 00:58.19 | LtL | Jobine: seems bumblebee is the trick, explained here: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
| 00:58.28 | Jobine | ok i'll read and report, thanks |
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| 00:58.42 | Jobine | but does bumblebee work with the proprietary nvidia? |
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| 01:00.04 | Jobine | do i need to blacklist nouveau% |
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| 01:02.02 | LtL | Jobine: i think the procedure will blacklist it for you but i really don't know. follow the instructions. there is also a #bumblebee channel here on frenode. |
| 01:02.13 | LtL | *freenode |
| 01:02.14 | Jobine | ok thanks |
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| 01:34.59 | p0lly | ...so, what do you guys think of SteamOS? |
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| 01:35.51 | abrotman | try #debian-offtopic |
| 01:36.20 | p0lly | nah.... i just wont bring it up again |
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| 02:02.29 | petn-randall | !steamos |
| 02:02.30 | dpkg | SteamOS is an operating system released by Valve as a gaming platform, based on Debian 7 "Wheezy". It is not supported in #debian, support is available at http://support.steampowered.com/ . See <based on debian>. |
| 02:02.54 | petn-randall | Oh sweet, we do have a keyword for steam os :) ^^^ |
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| 02:07.46 | Tylertwo | Hi, remind me which group I must adduser to to startx? |
| 02:08.05 | dvs | ??? |
| 02:08.16 | dvs | None that I know of |
| 02:08.34 | themill | dpkg: tell Tylertwo about startx user |
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| 02:09.04 | Tylertwo | oh yeaaah. i keep forgetting that. ty |
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| 02:37.45 | eecp | d/ |
| 02:37.54 | eecp | hello |
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| 02:43.36 | mouz\lex | hi |
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| 03:10.15 | anick1 | i'm clonind a disk by dd'ing it to another disk, but it's taking much longer than expected. no errors on dmesg. should i be checking something else? |
| 03:11.10 | dvs | anick1: The "bs=1M" option probably would have helped. |
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| 03:12.39 | rryoumaa | is the bs option basically to tell dd to grab that much data, store it in memory, then write it? |
| 03:12.45 | anick1 | yeah, but I don't understand bs. dd says I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes |
| 03:13.07 | rryoumaa | anick1: some drives might use 4096 |
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| 03:14.34 | dvs | rryoumaa: The physical block size and the bs option do not have to match up. |
| 03:14.35 | abrotman | also, how big are the drives? |
| 03:15.16 | rryoumaa | dvs: for optimal speed, what does have to match up? |
| 03:15.25 | rryoumaa | why 1m? why not 100m? |
| 03:15.51 | rryoumaa | wouldn't it be whatever the drive is able to cache or something? |
| 03:16.42 | anick1 | abrotman: 500,107,862,016 bytes ; and 320,072,933,376 bytes |
| 03:16.54 | anick1 | the 320G one has Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical |
| 03:17.16 | abrotman | that seems like a mismatch |
| 03:17.31 | abrotman | rryoumaa: larger than the hardware buffer |
| 03:17.38 | anick1 | the 500G also says that. those sector sizes came from smartctl |
| 03:18.11 | rryoumaa | abrotman: by hardware buffer do you mean the disk cache? |
| 03:18.34 | rryoumaa | i.e. the one in the device? |
| 03:19.03 | dvs | rryoumaa: Yes, that's what he means. |
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| 03:28.14 | anick1 | i just made dd spit out the I/O statistics... 146642764288 bytes (147 GB) copied, 7857.44 s, 18.7 MB/s |
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| 03:28.44 | dvs | That's slow! |
| 03:29.20 | anick1 | it's been ~3h, that means it'll take about +3h. I was waiting for this to finnish before going to bed... |
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| 03:36.59 | rryoumaa | maybe you can kill it and start at the last byte or something? |
| 03:37.14 | rryoumaa | last-written byte |
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| 03:41.05 | anick1 | i'm not very confident with these things. Is it safe? |
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| 03:43.22 | dvs | anick1: I wouldn't. I'd either let it run or start over. |
| 03:44.31 | anick1 | yeah, I'm going to bed. I was stfg'ing to see what could cause a HDD to become slow. I don't see any relevant errors on the smart log |
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| 04:23.03 | luketheduke | [A |
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| 04:32.47 | jaami | please see this http://paste.debian.net/71069/ why i get no such file or directory error ? |
| 04:34.51 | themill | jaami: at a guess because you have the 32bit version of adb there but haven't installed any system libraries to permit that to work on an amd64 machine. BTW adb is already packaged for debian and is only an apt-get away. |
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| 04:36.35 | jaami | oh i did not know that adb was that easy to get. and really i downloaded the 64bit but i will check again. is that android can be that easy to setup? |
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| 04:39.55 | jaami | apt-get install adb returns unable to locate package error |
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| 04:41.56 | jerichowasahoax | jaami: android-tools-adb |
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| 04:46.18 | jaami | jerichowasahoax, it did not work |
| 04:46.43 | buu | jaami: Man I hate when apt tells me that it did not work. |
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| 04:47.04 | wols_ | buu: needs more whipping then |
| 04:47.11 | jaami | hmm, have to change resources.list? |
| 04:47.22 | buu | jaami: MAYBE YOU SHOULD TELL US THE ERROR MESSAGE |
| 04:47.25 | wols_ | ,v android-tools-adb |
| 04:47.26 | judd | Package: android-tools-adb on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 4.2.2+git20130529-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 4.2.2+git20130529-3; sid: 4.2.2+git20130529-3 |
| 04:47.27 | jaami | you guys making fun? |
| 04:47.40 | jaami | :) |
| 04:47.49 | wols_ | jaami: no we are not making fun of you. you are making it very hard for anyone to help you. |
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| 04:48.04 | wols_ | jaami: we are basically one decision away from ignoring you |
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| 04:48.56 | jaami | http://paste.debian.net/71071/ here is the output, thanks |
| 04:49.24 | wols_ | as you can see from judd above, you need the backports repo /msg dpkg backports |
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| 04:50.48 | jaami | okay, you know a newb is here. sorry for making it hard to,get help. |
| 04:53.01 | deib97 | any tutorial for make a vps ? |
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| 05:05.15 | elvora | Is there a way to adjust where new windows are positioned on the screen when first opened? |
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| 05:06.23 | mentor | elvora: Thats the job of the window manager |
| 05:08.03 | themill | elvora: many programs support a -geometry argument that will request the window manager to put them in a certain place. The WM can ignore that of course. See X(7) for syntax details of -geometry |
| 05:08.42 | elvora | themill: Thanks. |
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| 05:35.46 | nimitz | where is the systemd error log located? |
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| 05:43.55 | dizzylizzy | so my thought is, why run a calculator program when you can just do it from the terminal super quick |
| 05:44.10 | dizzylizzy | I found that this works: echo "4 * 5" | bc |
| 05:44.24 | dizzylizzy | frankly, that's inefficient. Are there better ways of doing math from the terminal? |
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| 05:46.13 | themill | dizzylizzy: depends on what sort of maths you're trying to do and why |
| 05:46.19 | well_laid_lawn | echo $((4*5)) |
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| 05:48.23 | dizzylizzy | not very effective for floating point calculations though, well_laid_lawn |
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| 05:48.44 | well_laid_lawn | you didn't mention floating point calculations |
| 05:49.04 | well_laid_lawn | it does 4*5 very well |
| 05:49.06 | dizzylizzy | sorry |
| 05:49.10 | themill | hence me asking what sort of maths... |
| 05:49.11 | well_laid_lawn | k ;) |
| 05:49.33 | dizzylizzy | I guess it depends, but it would definitely include decimal points |
| 05:49.53 | dizzylizzy | hmmph |
| 05:50.07 | dizzylizzy | i should just run bc |
| 05:50.14 | themill | dizzylizzy: personally, I use qalc. There's plenty of others |
| 05:50.35 | well_laid_lawn | I use xcalc in a gui environment |
| 05:50.35 | xednix | dizzylizzy: I use python in interactive mode. Seems efficient, can do many sorts of math + some logic |
| 05:51.11 | themill | or even better, ipython |
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| 06:09.24 | WilliamDotSI | anyone has infiniband knowledge? |
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| 06:58.53 | Spunkybd | Hello everyone. I have a msi z87-g45 motherboard with a killer nic ethernet port. Debian does not natively support the card, or have drivers. Is there anywhere i can find them? Kille rnic also does not support linux of any kind. |
| 06:59.07 | Spunkybd | Or a way to use the windows driver |
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| 07:02.05 | buu | Spunkybd: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=163594 |
| 07:02.44 | buu | http://askubuntu.com/questions/333938/how-do-i-get-a-qualcomm-atheros-killer-e2200-gigabit-ethernet-card-working |
| 07:02.48 | klys | get the latest kernel from ftp.kernel.org and unpack, cd /usr/src/linux, make menuconfig; browse through the driver list of the latest kernel. |
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| 07:30.42 | yottanami | I want to apt-get update but I have this error http://dpaste.com/1507306/ How can I fix it ? |
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| 07:34.30 | buu | yottanami: why do you have rasperrypi in your sources list? |
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| 07:45.43 | mikolaj__ | hello |
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| 07:51.31 | rozie_ | mikolaj__: show /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:51.43 | jennie | I cant play WMV files, installed codecs , tried SMplayer,VLC and mplayer too but it is playing audio only and No video , what I am missing here ? http://i.imgur.com/r7OdEVX.png http://i.imgur.com/fUpNRY1.png http://paste.debian.net/71076/ I am running debian 7 amd64I cant play WMV files, installed codecs , tried SMplayer,VLC and mplayer too but it is playing audio only http://i.imgur.com/r7OdEVX.png http://i.imgur.com/fUpNRY1.png |
| 07:51.44 | jennie | http://paste.debian.net/71076/ I am running debian 7 amd64 |
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| 07:55.57 | yottanami | buu: Because it is a RaspberryPi device |
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| 07:56.51 | mikolaj__ | rozie_, : I set it to be testing + contrib |
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| 07:58.20 | rozie_ | mikolaj__: and what kernel is in testing? |
| 07:58.50 | mikolaj__ | rozie_, 3.11? |
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| 08:00.24 | rozie_ | yep. apt-cache policy linux-image-3.11-2-amd64 |
| 08:00.48 | dgriffi | what's a portable way to find out the PID of a child process that sent a SIGCHLD signal? |
| 08:00.53 | mikolaj__ | another time, I installed wheezy, changed the sources, did upgrade, and then gnome didn't start |
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| 08:44.58 | tabasko_ | dumb question of day: in debian bug tracker does this graph mean that bug affects latest version: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/version.cgi?width=;ignore_boring=1;absolute=0;height=;found=amavisd-new%2F1%3A2.6.4-3;package=amavisd-new;format=png;collapse=1;info=0 |
| 08:45.12 | tabasko_ | wow, long url |
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| 08:56.14 | Togusa | the debian netinst image is failing on the official mirror with "not supported release: wheezy" |
| 08:56.15 | Togusa | O.o |
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| 09:01.22 | martin_-_- | hi, I'm not able to write on a mounted partition with fuse. Fuse doesn't provide a write parameter... so is there an other way to write on the partition? |
| 09:02.22 | _spectre | How can I install flash plugin? |
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| 09:09.53 | Iridos | dpkg, flash plugin |
| 09:09.53 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> and <lightspark> for free implementations, or <adobe flash> and <pepper flash> for non-free implementations. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
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| 09:10.28 | tilt | falsh :) |
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| 09:13.03 | Iridos | Togusa, http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20131214 there's a 7.3.0 image now, but some of the links are still pointing to 7.2.0 |
| 09:13.17 | Togusa | Iridos: i see! Thanks =) |
| 09:13.24 | Togusa | i'll wait until it's working again |
| 09:13.45 | Iridos | _spectre, ^^^^ |
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| 09:14.15 | Iridos | mart... oh, that one solved itself. |
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| 09:18.06 | _spectre | Iridos thanks you |
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| 09:19.36 | Iridos | _spectre, you can message the bot about the others... e.g. /msg dpkg adobe flash |
| 09:19.57 | Iridos | ("others" == other factoids, i.e. everything in <>-brackets) |
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| 09:23.03 | EnglishLife | Hey all |
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| 09:26.51 | comrad | hi, the torrent-download-pages of the current 7.3 dvd image results in a 404 |
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| 09:33.54 | Vasistha | notify-send is not displaying anything on screen. Any tips to make it work? |
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| 09:35.26 | babilen | comrad: Okay. Which page (torrent-download-pages) is that exactly? Could you use http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/bt-dvd/ or simply download from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ ? (latter likely to be faster anyway) |
| 09:35.28 | themill | comrad: reported, thanks. |
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| 09:40.35 | comrad | babilen: themill you're welcome. the page was http://www.debian.org/distrib/ and then http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.2.0/amd64/bt-dvd/ and the other versions as well. the cdimage-download works fine. but i wanted to use torrent to save traffic for the debian-project. |
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| 09:44.00 | themill | comrad: the links that babilen gave you have working torrents |
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| 09:50.53 | comrad | themill: yes, but is that 7.3? |
| 09:50.59 | comrad | it says current |
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| 09:51.07 | comrad | eh, 7.2 |
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| 10:17.09 | petn-randall | tabasko_: Yes, it means that the newest version is affected. |
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| 10:18.33 | petn-randall | comrad: You can update to 7.3 from 7.2, it's the same release, just with all accumulated security updates already in. |
| 10:18.47 | petn-randall | comrad: If you use the netinst, there's probably not even a difference between the two. |
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| 10:37.04 | vizzy | hi, isnt ia32-libs available for testing/jessie? i cant find it, even after adding 386 architecture, it just mentions it has no installation candidate. i dnd tfind any useful infos in the web regarding this problem. |
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| 10:38.01 | vizzy | the web only mentions about silly install problems, but i cant get so far because i just cant find the ia32libs package at all |
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| 10:38.57 | themill | vizzy: the package doesn't provide anything useful and so doesn't exist |
| 10:39.19 | vizzy | themill, but at least a few apps still depends on this lib |
| 10:39.29 | themill | not in debian |
| 10:39.30 | petn-randall | vizzy: Which package? |
| 10:39.54 | vizzy | e.g. google earth wont install without it, even when using force |
| 10:40.07 | themill | google earth from where? |
| 10:40.16 | vizzy | from google download section? |
| 10:41.05 | themill | the googleearth-package package works well |
| 10:41.24 | vizzy | nope |
| 10:41.39 | vizzy | not in debian jessie 64 bit |
| 10:42.09 | themill | it would help if you could explain how it does not work rather than just assert that it does not |
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| 10:42.49 | petern_ | googleearth-package does not depend on ia32-libs |
| 10:42.50 | vizzy | it fails because it depends on is32-libs, all said |
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| 10:43.01 | vizzy | for me it definoitely does |
| 10:43.05 | themill | vizzy: that is not googleearth-package |
| 10:43.05 | petern_ | maybe you didn't read "googleearth-package" properly |
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| 10:43.45 | vizzy | sudo dpkg -i ./google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb |
| 10:44.00 | vizzy | as i mentioned this is the download from google |
| 10:44.02 | petern_ | Exactly, that's still not googleearth-package |
| 10:44.02 | themill | which bit of that is called googleearth-package? |
| 10:44.10 | vizzy | Unpacking google-earth-stable (from .../google-earth-stable_current_amd64.deb) ... |
| 10:44.11 | vizzy | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of google-earth-stable: |
| 10:44.11 | vizzy | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:44.11 | vizzy | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:44.11 | dpkg | vizzy: that's not the complete error. Please pastebin the command you gave and the entire output. Ask me about <pastebin> <bat> <localised errors>. |
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| 10:44.28 | petern_ | IRC is clearly write-only today :) |
| 10:44.37 | themill | yeah |
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| 10:45.09 | vizzy | wow, kicked because of answering a question in 3 lines, how cool is that |
| 10:45.31 | themill | Four lines, please use a pastebin for output. |
| 10:45.40 | petern_ | Kicked automatically by a bot, yes. |
| 10:45.47 | vizzy | http://pastebin.com/iqpd0vpD |
| 10:46.02 | themill | vizzy: and as I said, you might like to look at googleearth-package. |
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| 10:47.51 | vizzy | ok, installed google-earth-pacjage, and what now? |
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| 10:52.16 | vizzy | k, seems to work, ... its so stupid that google does not provide the bin package on their website... argh. that would be much easier and wouldnmt require a package at all.... |
| 10:52.25 | vizzy | thx for help :) works now |
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| 10:53.34 | petern_ | o_O |
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| 11:47.35 | ChrisH | Jan\: First, where is the connection to Debian and second, what is darling macosx emulator? |
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| 11:48.32 | Jan\ | ChrisH: http://darling.dolezel.info/en/Darling |
| 11:50.36 | Jan\ | ChrisH: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/08/os-x-apps-run-on-linux-with-wine-like-emulator-for-mac-software/ |
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| 11:53.25 | iszak_ | I'm using the preseed option with d-i pkgsel/upgrade select full-upgrade but it doesn't seem to do anything as I still need to run apt-get update/dist-upgrade as a late command. |
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| 11:55.23 | raboof | Jan\: nope (running Skype directly on linux works quite well here though) |
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| 11:56.13 | Jan\ | raboof: yeah but its features are not equal to windows or macos versions |
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| 11:56.34 | raboof | Jan\: that could be - i only use voice, chat and video |
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| 12:00.21 | freebsd-user_ | is 7.2.0 will have firefox 26? |
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| 12:02.17 | xand | freebsd-user_: debian doesn't have firefox |
| 12:02.30 | freebsd-user_ | iceweasl |
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| 12:05.02 | pengunix | I never understood why there is firefox and then there is iceweasel... |
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| 12:05.47 | freebsd-user_ | pengunix me too |
| 12:06.02 | xand | due to bickering |
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| 12:06.03 | pengunix | freebsd-user_: so you got a problem with iceweasel? |
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| 12:06.35 | xand | !why iceweasel |
| 12:06.35 | dpkg | Due to Mozilla logos licensing, Mozilla software isn't DFSG-free, so Debian distributes Mozilla software with different logos. Mozilla Corp revoked the agreement to let Debian use Mozilla trademarks, so Debian changed to non-trademarked product names. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Corporation_software_rebranded_in_Debian for more information. http://glandium.org/blog/?p=933. Ask me about <dfsg> <iceweasel vs firefox>. |
| 12:06.49 | pengunix | xand: always these human problems, computers should be free from this. |
| 12:07.32 | freebsd-user_ | I'm wondering if it'll be 26 |
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| 12:08.51 | freebsd-user_ | Ok, I'm using debian 6 for about years now, with icewasl 3 |
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| 12:09.41 | freebsd-user_ | Now, i'm gnna move either debian 7.2.0 or freebsd |
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| 12:14.21 | xand | ,versions iceweasel |
| 12:14.22 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; jessie: 17.0.10esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy: 17.0.10esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 17.0.10esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 24.2.0esr-1; experimental: 26.0-1 |
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| 12:14.42 | xand | freebsd-user_: there. anyway you could install firefox manually if you wanted. |
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| 12:26.10 | smj | freebsd-user_: Why Firefox 26? Does it have a specific feature? |
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| 12:29.32 | ChrisH | yes: A higher version number... |
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| 12:33.19 | local | Hello @ll. I have a daily cronjob located in /etc/cron.daily and every day when it runs, I am getting an email after it finished. That is happening because I have written my email address in /etc/aliases. Is there a way to stop this email notification for that particular daily cron job? |
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| 12:34.54 | ksk | local: an email gets written if you script produces output. |
| 12:35.03 | ksk | (and is run by cron) |
| 12:35.35 | ksk | fix that if you dont what to get an email. |
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| 12:41.44 | local | ksk: fix it how? my script looks like that --> test -f "/usr/bin/zarafa-admin" ||exit 1; /usr/bin/zarafa-admin --purge-softdelete 30" |
| 12:42.15 | ksk | fix it so that it does not produce an ouput? |
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| 12:43.11 | local | is it enough to just add >nul at the last line? |
| 12:43.15 | local | or doesn't that count? |
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| 12:45.27 | local | ok, I added >/dev/null, on this way no output is produced. Thank you ksk |
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| 12:55.34 | ksk | that will sure fuck you up if something goes wrong, but have fun.. |
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| 12:58.00 | _val_ | Hi. I'm running nagios in a chroot environment and on the host system. I put apache Listen directive on different ports which works well. Problem: When I 'service nagios3 stop' on host or within the chroot, it kills both the daemons. How is this possible? What I tried: changed NAME= variable within chroot in /etc/init.d/nagios3 to NAME="nagios3_chroot" and still no change. Any idea? |
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| 13:03.13 | ksk | take a look in start/stopskripts how stuff is handled? |
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| 13:03.29 | ksk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:04.42 | _val_ | ksk: I just did. Hmm made some modifications which i partly fixed it. |
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| 13:04.52 | _val_ | to be honest the nagios3 script is poorly written. :/ |
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| 13:06.40 | ChrisH | _val_: I moved from nagios to OMD, easier to maintain and multiple sites are possible on one system. |
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| 13:07.41 | _val_ | ChrisH: OMD? Can you elaborate? |
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| 13:11.43 | ChrisH | _val_: Open Monitoring Distribution http://omdistro.org/ repo here http://labs.consol.de/lang/de/repo/ |
| 13:11.49 | _val_ | ChrisH: So what I now did is this: Within chroot I mv /usr/sbin/{nagios3,nagios3_chroot} then within /etc/init.d/nagios3 I changed the DAEMON variable to point to /usr/sbin/nagios3_chroot. Also I changed the pid file to be different than of the host one and seem to work now. |
| 13:11.59 | _val_ | This workaround is quite messy though :/ |
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| 13:14.06 | themill | _val_: you probably need a better level of separation between guest and host here. A real vm or something in between like lxc would be better. (The problem here is that /proc and hence the process list is shared into the chroot) |
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| 13:21.46 | ChrisH | _val_: I still did not get what the objectiv is. |
| 13:21.54 | _val_ | ChrisH: thanks for the link. |
| 13:22.02 | _val_ | themill: yes proc and shm is shared. |
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| 13:23.12 | _val_ | ChrisH: host system runs on squeeze. The chroot is wheezy. So I neeeded to migrate our monitoring system to chroot and run it there... but for the time being we want to run nagios on both to make sure everything works as expected before we move to the chroot. |
| 13:24.13 | ChrisH | _val_: this would be also easier with OMD, due to the site concept. |
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| 13:42.30 | jacks_cool | not able to download iso from debian.org |
| 13:42.45 | jacks_cool | getting resource not found error on CD and DVD both. any fix? |
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| 13:44.14 | themill | jacks_cool: change 7.2 to 7.3 in the URLs (they're still being updated) |
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| 13:45.40 | jacks_cool | themill: thank you. it worked :) |
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| 13:47.05 | Silmarilion | im trying to exit chroot enviorement on lmde, typing 'exit' wont exit the enviorement. any hints? |
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| 13:52.11 | ksk | lmde? |
| 13:52.29 | ksk | but yes, exit will get you out of chroot |
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| 13:52.55 | Silmarilion | I made it, there were some unfinished jobs |
| 13:53.14 | jprox | Does using ubuntu make me a pos? |
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| 13:54.08 | abrotman | jprox: wrong channel? |
| 13:54.34 | abrotman | jprox: it makes your distro of choice unsupported here |
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| 13:55.45 | Silmarilion | in arch I had a genfstab command to generate fstab, is there something similar in debian? |
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| 13:56.53 | wols_ | Silmarilion: lmde is not debian and unsupported here. /msg dpkg ming |
| 13:56.59 | wols_ | sorry, /msg dpkg mint |
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| 13:59.13 | jaami-win | yes, let me check |
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| 13:59.49 | lancelot1 | hi there |
| 13:59.57 | lancelot1 | can you read me? |
| 14:00.01 | cusco | yes |
| 14:00.02 | abrotman | no |
| 14:00.07 | jaami-win | no |
| 14:00.13 | jaami-win | hell no |
| 14:00.28 | cusco | I can read ghosty letters |
| 14:00.42 | jaami-win | who? |
| 14:00.46 | cusco | where? |
| 14:01.25 | lancelot1 | i asked because i supposed to be registered nickname, i'm trying icedove chat interface but i read lancelot1 instead of lancelot_of |
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| 14:03.10 | Alver | Hi there. Has anyone got insight on what is going on with the debian "cinnamon" package and its maintainer? |
| 14:03.40 | Alver | A serious bug has rendered it totally useless since August (!) and there hasn't been an update or even a notice from the maintainer since |
| 14:03.40 | abrotman | Alver: contact the maintainer, if they're MIA, there's a process for that |
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| 14:03.58 | abrotman | Alver: you can submit a patch, and if needed, create an NMU |
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| 14:04.22 | Alver | abrotman: it's not a matter of a plain patch, unfortunately... which is why I didn't care that much that it took a bit longer |
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| 14:04.37 | Alver | there's a string of libraries that needs to be redone, split off, packaged, god knows |
| 14:04.40 | HicksD | I've just backported a few packages I needed from testing to wheezy. For trivial ones that are nothing more than doing the download/recompile/package, is there any point to me finding someone to upload it to backports? Since they'd likely have to repeat the same steps anyway to build from source rather than trusting my binaries? |
| 14:05.02 | Alver | abrotman: but so far, nothing seems to be moving at all, and the maintainer hasn't even bothered to reply to the bug reports in 4 months |
| 14:05.20 | abrotman | Alver: have they had any activity? |
| 14:05.25 | abrotman | (not just for cinnamon) |
| 14:05.36 | Alver | The maintainer? Hmm. No idea. |
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| 14:06.27 | abrotman | says someone onther than the maintainer uploaded a package in September |
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| 14:06.59 | abrotman | Alver: check the PTS page, says Michael Biebl was the last uploader |
| 14:07.16 | Alver | I'm not known with that - I'll check for it. Thanks. |
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| 14:08.37 | Alver | abrotman: ah, yes. That is indeed the last version. Didn't fix the problem. |
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| 14:10.15 | abrotman | Alver: right, but that person might be more interested in maintaining than the actual listed maintainer? |
| 14:10.57 | Alver | Perhaps... I'll drop him a note |
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| 14:11.08 | Alver | Although that guy seems to be packaging a boatload of stuff... |
| 14:11.27 | Alver | Yikes, more than a boatload. |
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| 14:13.20 | Alver | abrotman: I'll see if I can get hold of someone. Doesn't look too good though. :/ |
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| 14:14.15 | abrotman | Alver: you might also want to inquire with #debian-gnome on irc.oftc.net, though I have no idea how friendly they are to Cinnamon packaging .. they may kickban you :) |
| 14:14.35 | Alver | Haha |
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| 14:14.56 | Alver | Well, if nothing moves I'll just fall back to building my own packages instead |
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| 14:15.17 | themill | There's another developer listed in Uploaders -- contact him too |
| 14:15.55 | abrotman | Alver: if you do, be good if you submitted patches (please make sure this is tracked in the BTS) |
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| 14:37.46 | aloush | Hey there guys, I am trying to download a debian image however every link I click on the site says I cannot access the server is there something wrong with the servers at the moment? |
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| 14:38.21 | rozie | no |
| 14:38.24 | rozie | aloush: gimme link |
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| 14:39.23 | rozie | aloush: probably you have 7.2 in URL. try to change it to 7.3 |
| 14:39.27 | rozie | BTW http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/amd64/bt-cd/ |
| 14:39.38 | aloush | That worked! |
| 14:39.41 | aloush | thanks |
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| 14:39.57 | aloush | I wouoldn't cal myself a noob but its taken me a while to figure out which version I need to download :P |
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| 14:40.32 | rozie | aloush: usualy amd64, if desktop/laptop/server |
| 14:40.33 | aloush | currently on Arch but it just isn't working how I would like so going to try switching over to Debian I have heard good things! |
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| 14:41.07 | ksk | arch will probably not be the proble, but your welcome to use debian, as its the best distro out there ;) |
| 14:41.44 | aloush | There is a DVD 1 DVD 2 DVD 3 I assume they are all the same file just mirrors? |
| 14:41.54 | rozie | no. |
| 14:41.55 | ksk | nope. you need dvd1 |
| 14:42.09 | rozie | aloush: you probably want to use netiso if have working internet connection |
| 14:42.10 | ksk | every other dvd keeps packages, sorted by popularity |
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| 14:42.21 | aloush | haha ok off to a good start |
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| 14:42.29 | ksk | or netinstall, yap |
| 14:42.30 | aloush | whats a reccomended patition layout ? |
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| 14:42.41 | ksk | the one the installer recommends ;) |
| 14:42.54 | tomodachi | aloush: depends on your requirements, but if you dont know the defaults are quite sane |
| 14:42.56 | aloush | ah awesome |
| 14:43.01 | ksk | id go with "guided with lvm" if thats still an option - didnt try debian 7 installer |
| 14:43.13 | aloush | Well I am on an SSd and store all my files on two other hard drives |
| 14:43.18 | grep0r | aloush, i will recommend net install :) |
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| 14:43.42 | aloush | I am amazed the community here is great compared to the arch community |
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| 14:44.12 | grep0r | aloush, from ssd for faster and hdd for storage? |
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| 14:44.27 | grep0r | (boot i mean) |
| 14:44.33 | aloush | Yeah use my ssd for boot |
| 14:44.39 | grep0r | kewl |
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| 14:44.47 | aloush | and I did use it for photoshop and after effects but I don't think they work well under wine |
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| 14:45.21 | grep0r | aloush, btw what makes you leave from arch? |
| 14:45.33 | aloush | I am having so much trouble with Steam |
| 14:45.34 | raven737 | Hi, question, I have eth0 configured as static. I want to create a virtual interface based on eth0 that uses dhcp. Is this possible? If so, how? I have tried to add: "iface eth0:0 inet dhcp" to my /etc/network/interface but even after a restart no interface shows up. |
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| 14:45.42 | aloush | and graphics drivers in general |
| 14:45.50 | aloush | and the community isn't very nice :P |
| 14:46.10 | grep0r | Oh understood aloush :P |
| 14:46.23 | aloush | and for somebody like me who prefers to talk to people instead of just reading guides the arch community isn't for me |
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| 14:46.44 | jwwww | Hello. |
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| 14:47.18 | jwwww | can somebody remenber me the oldstable ( squeeze ) repository url please ? |
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| 14:48.35 | arc0 | hello, when I query 'ps -aux' - I have a BUNCH of processes that say '[aptitude] <defunct>'. I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this. Running apt-get update hangs at ~95/96%. The mirrors work fine because I use the same across multiple machines. Only one is completing the 'apt-get update', however. |
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| 14:49.58 | wols_ | arc0: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie_process |
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| 14:50.48 | Iridos | jwwww, as long as squeeze is still supported (1 year after release of wheezy as stable) it's still in the same place as it was... i.e. same sources.list as wheezy, just with "squeeze" or "oldstable" instead of "wheezy"/"stable". |
| 14:50.53 | Iridos | dpkg, squeeze sources.list |
| 14:50.53 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <squeeze/updates> <squeeze-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
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| 14:51.12 | Iridos | jwwww, ^^^ |
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| 14:51.59 | Iridos | jwwww, also see https://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable |
| 14:52.38 | jwwww | Iridos: oh thanks, I thinked it was moved to archives or something. |
| 14:53.03 | jwwww | there is no more security updates ? |
| 14:53.08 | Iridos | jwwww, it will be... see the last link |
| 14:53.45 | Iridos | jwwww, but only in begin of May 2014, when it stops being supported as oldstable |
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| 14:54.03 | verblendet | i really dont like tha naming oldstable.... why dont use the release name |
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| 14:56.42 | jwwww | Iridos: thanks for the informations. I just get my hand on some squeeze server, with security issues. |
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| 14:58.33 | aloush | What are AMD cards like on debian do they run ok? I have nothing but trouble on Arch |
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| 14:58.47 | tomodachi | aloush: i think your experience will be quite similair |
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| 14:58.58 | aloush | awww nooo |
| 14:59.03 | tomodachi | after all the kernel is probably about the same version |
| 14:59.03 | raven737 | Any reason why macvlan doesn't work on debian wheezy? |
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| 15:00.17 | pengunix_ | macvlan does work in debian wheezy (for lxc you mean)? |
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| 15:01.23 | raven737 | pengunix_: Well, i tried to add it using: ip link add dev macvlan0 link eth0 type macvlan but it doesn't show up, no error |
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| 15:02.01 | jonjo | hello, can anyone help me with this? driver Linux console keyboard wanted to post scancode 90 outside of [0, 0]! ?? Think I need some form of keybindings for Xfbdev. I have a custom keypad and have added the keybindings to my kernel config, the keys work with evtest http://bpaste.net/show/WZITgRNQ4yPqMYOdk4nM/ |
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| 15:02.36 | jennie | okay, what is wrong here please look , I am unable to play WMV file though the codecs are in folder but still mplayer, vlc, smplayer are unable to play it please help , details here >> Line#6 http://paste.debian.net/71172/ ,Line#30 http://paste.debian.net/71168/ , COdecs installed screenshot http://i.imgur.com/mxrHjcx.png , http://i.imgur.com/8g9zPfa.png , http://i.imgur.com/yZbDXwB.png, Debian 7 64bit wheezy |
| 15:03.20 | raven737 | pengunix_: sorry, my mistake. Added to networking and it works ^_^ |
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| 15:04.01 | rozie | jennie: can you provide online example of WMV file you are unable to play and tell, how did you install codecs? |
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| 15:05.05 | jennie | http://paste.debian.net/71174/ more details and here is the file if you do not want to wget it http://wikisend.com/download/715546/02_More%20command%20line%20skills.wmv |
| 15:05.06 | pengunix_ | raven737: for making the host able to connect it also has a macvlan assigned to (I read that somewhere). |
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| 15:06.57 | rozie | jennie: file looks broken |
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| 15:07.07 | rozie | it's 5 KB only |
| 15:07.16 | jennie | the wikisend Link ? |
| 15:07.43 | rozie | OK, it's 9 MB |
| 15:07.47 | rozie | tried wget ;/ |
| 15:08.03 | jennie | wget file is from mplayer , that wget file is also showing same error |
| 15:08.46 | rozie | [wmavoice @ 0x7f112d556440]WMAPro-in-WMAVoice support not implemented. Update your Libav version to the newest one from Git. If the problem still occurs, it means that your file has a feature which has not been implemented. |
| 15:08.57 | rozie | this is what I get |
| 15:09.02 | romm | hello. i've installed wheezy on vmware workstation 10 and i'm having trouble with the vmware SVGA driver not supporting my monitor resolution. i wanted to try a newer version of xserver-xorg-video-vmware but i'm not sure how |
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| 15:09.15 | rozie | but audio is working |
| 15:09.34 | geckgo | hello all |
| 15:09.36 | wols_ | !vmware |
| 15:09.37 | dpkg | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported, ask me about <vmware support>. VMware is not in Debian because it is not Free software; even though you might be able to download it for no cost, the source code is not available for some parts and Debian is not allowed to distribute it, see <dfsg>. http://wiki.debian.org/VMware #vmware on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
| 15:09.47 | raven737 | pengunix_: ok, thanks |
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| 15:12.08 | anick1 | romm: try virtualbox |
| 15:12.10 | romm | ah, ok. i'll head there. though a general question is, how do i see what versions of 'somepkg' are availabe? i added a line of wheezy-backports in sources.list. is 'aptitude versions somepkg' supposed to work? |
| 15:12.24 | anick1 | or check if you have enough video memory |
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| 15:14.46 | jennie | rozie, did you looked at all pastes ? |
| 15:14.46 | jennie | specially line#6 and then line#30 and then images and then this http://paste.debian.net/71174/ |
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| 15:36.09 | Brilliant | iam looking for an iptables channel.. i have attacks with 127.0.0.1 IP.. but iptables think thats ok, because loopback, some hints? |
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| 15:37.41 | xfce-x64 | Welcome to ##fsf-free, a channel for discussion of all free software and Internet freedom related things! :-) |
| 15:38.08 | mouz\lex | wat.flv |
| 15:38.50 | jwwww | umm that squeeze seems really compromised, I found out that /usr/sbin had immutable attribute. I removed it, and I can create files, but I cannot delete, there is no undeletable flag. |
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| 15:39.14 | jwwww | does somebody got an idea on how I could remove such files ? |
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| 15:39.25 | wols_ | !tell jwwww about errors |
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| 15:40.15 | jwwww | oh allright. |
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| 15:43.37 | jwwww | witchmaster_: here are the informations I have ( commands and errors ) http://pastebin.ca/2508324 |
| 15:43.40 | jwwww | ops |
| 15:43.48 | jwwww | it was for you wols_ . |
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| 15:45.06 | jwwww | umm that a flag is suspicious. |
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| 15:46.56 | pixelgremlins | hey if I'm using rsync to mirror directories across servers, is there any reason having it sync every 10 seconds via cron job, will cause a lot of overhead? -- Rsync won't push files unless there's been an update, correct? |
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| 15:48.14 | jwwww | oh yea that it ! I removed that a flag and now it's ok ! |
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