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| 00:32.59 | Hassen | is the last debian 700 mb sized iso enough to install it at its full version? |
| 00:33.25 | dvs | Hassen: If you have an internet connection, yes. |
| 00:33.40 | buu | Hassen: Get the netinstall iso? |
| 00:33.49 | dvs | Hassen: What do you mean by the "last iso"? |
| 00:33.55 | Hassen | i was installig directly via internet |
| 00:34.05 | Hassen | dvs, last stable release |
| 00:34.26 | Hassen | i mean i saw in debian site that there are 2 versions |
| 00:34.32 | dvs | Hassen: Then yes, even the netinstall iso is enough to install the whole thing. |
| 00:34.35 | Hassen | 1st one in 3 DVD's |
| 00:34.48 | Hassen | and the 2nd one only at a 700 mb size |
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| 00:35.31 | Hassen | so what may be the difference between those debians after installing them? |
| 00:35.51 | dvs | Hassen: nothing. |
| 00:36.18 | Hassen | dvs, sorry I meant this: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 00:36.43 | buu | Hassen: They just include different amounts of packages locally, vs over the internet |
| 00:37.03 | mentor | Hassen: What do you mean by "full version"? |
| 00:37.17 | Hassen | buu, so the thing is just getting packages via internet to fulfill it? |
| 00:37.54 | Hassen | and are those packages some additional softwares,rather than system componenets? |
| 00:38.06 | dvs | Hassen: Get the netinstall iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 00:38.32 | abrotman | takes the hat from mentor |
| 00:38.48 | mentor | Hassen: The core Debian set of packages doesn't include a GUI, for example |
| 00:38.58 | mentor | sulks |
| 00:39.25 | dvs | Hassen: How does your computer connect to the Internet? |
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| 00:39.47 | Hassen | dvs, it's ok,i was installing the whole thingy via live-us app,but i was just wondering what's the difference between that 3 DVD's debian and the 700 mb image one. |
| 00:40.12 | mentor | Hassen: The DVDs have more packages on them |
| 00:40.15 | dvs | Hassen: The number of packages stored on them. That's it. |
| 00:40.17 | Hassen | dvs, i'm now using win7 and was installing debian in a usb stick in order to install it in the PC minutes later |
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| 00:41.06 | Hassen | are packages equivalent to additional softwares?e.g GIMP/Audacity? |
| 00:41.14 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:41.20 | buu | Hassen: Everything on your system is part of a package. |
| 00:41.22 | mentor | Hassen: That depends on what you consider "additional", but pobably |
| 00:41.46 | mentor | Oh |
| 00:41.54 | mentor | Hassen: No, everything is a package |
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| 00:42.44 | mentor | I thought you meant the packages on the DVD but not on the CD |
| 00:42.53 | Hassen | but anyway..the system functionality is the same in those 2 versions?regardless of those additional free softwares in the 3 DVDs version? |
| 00:42.58 | buu | Hassen: YES |
| 00:43.01 | buu | Hassen: IT IS ALL THE SAME |
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| 00:43.12 | Hassen | clearly understood,thanks all. |
| 00:43.14 | mentor | Hassen: If you install the same packages, you have the same packages |
| 00:44.11 | Hassen | I'm up for a daily deep usage of Debian,may a 80 gb of space be enough for that? |
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| 00:44.35 | dvs | Hassen: If you dont want to use a GUI, yes |
| 00:44.45 | Hassen | seeing a GUI? |
| 00:45.18 | mentor | I have a GUI and use ~20 GB of system storage |
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| 00:45.39 | dvs | must be spoiled. |
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| 00:45.54 | babilen | Hassen: If you have a working internet connection you can install *everything* that is on those CDs/DVDs/BDs by downloading it directly. Please read <install debian> and I would recommend to use the netinstall image with firmware if you have a decent internet connection. (cf. <firmware image>) -- /msg dpkg install debian |
| 00:45.56 | Hassen | mentor, is that the dedicated space for debian?or the used space from a huge one? |
| 00:46.38 | mentor | Hassen: 20 GB is the size of my / partition at the moment; /home is separate |
| 00:46.54 | Hassen | mentor, I see. |
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| 00:47.06 | Hassen | see you soon gentlemen :) |
| 00:47.17 | Hassen | starts installing his new OS |
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| 00:53.08 | Evidlo | I seem to be getting lots of segfaults in libraries. Anything I should do to debug this? |
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| 00:54.11 | abrotman | Evidlo: I'd suspect something is out of date, or a hardware issue |
| 00:54.18 | abrotman | Evidlo: which version of linux are you running? |
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| 00:54.41 | Evidlo | Wheezy, kernel 3.2.0-4 |
| 00:55.05 | abrotman | Evidlo: looked in system logs for errors? |
| 00:55.47 | Evidlo | abrotman: I would paste it, but I can no longer open a browser. |
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| 00:56.38 | Evidlo | abrotman: http://evanw.org/downloads/errors |
| 00:59.29 | Evidlo | abrotman: I'm thinking about reinstalling. aptitude has problems too |
| 00:59.38 | abrotman | Evidlo: time for a memtest at least |
| 00:59.53 | abrotman | that's seirously abnormal |
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| 01:00.48 | Evidlo | should I memtest from a cd or on my system? |
| 01:01.02 | ^qop^ | doesnt matter |
| 01:01.09 | abrotman | from your CD, you can't trust the binaries on your system |
| 01:01.17 | ^qop^ | unless you are testing an hd |
| 01:01.23 | Evidlo | well, I can't install anything anyway |
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| 01:01.52 | Evidlo | ok, memtest here I come |
| 01:02.08 | abrotman | he didn't ask how long to run it for ... |
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| 01:02.24 | ^qop^ | memtest is a machine bin, it doesnt matter as long as it snt damaged and mdsum can tell that |
| 01:02.28 | dvs | why... 5 minutes of course! |
| 01:02.29 | zanshin | Yo. |
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| 01:03.29 | zanshin | Question: Anyway I can tell from pciid or something whether my wireless is capable of 802.11n? |
| 01:03.40 | mentor | ^qop^: Of course, how do you tell that md5sum isn't damaged? |
| 01:03.46 | zinx | zanshin: usually |
| 01:03.58 | abrotman | ^qop^: you can't tell if the binary is fucked up or not .. use your head |
| 01:04.04 | zinx | mentor: statistics |
| 01:04.21 | abrotman | you can't even guarantee md5 on his OS will complete a whole pass |
| 01:04.32 | mentor | zinx: I think you missed the point |
| 01:04.39 | ^qop^ | true. md5sum it+sha1sumit+sha512sumit? |
| 01:04.42 | abrotman | when diagnosing a possible hardware issue, get rid of the OS |
| 01:04.44 | zanshin | zinx: It's 168c:002b if you or a bot can do something with that. |
| 01:04.55 | ^qop^ | three of these cant be wrong at once :) |
| 01:05.05 | abrotman | we're not, just you |
| 01:05.06 | zanshin | ,.pciid 168c:002b |
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| 01:05.20 | zinx | if md5sum manages to report the right md5sum when it's malufunctioning and the file is wrong |
| 01:05.22 | zanshin | <_< |
| 01:05.29 | dvs | ,pciid 168c:002b |
| 01:05.30 | ^qop^ | ^ |
| 01:05.30 | judd | [168c:002b] is 'AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)' from 'Qualcomm Atheros' with kernel module 'ath9k' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=168c:002b http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc http://wiki.debian.org/ath9k |
| 01:05.32 | zinx | then either your problem is transient, or you are one hell of an unlucky person |
| 01:05.38 | zanshin | dvs: thanks |
| 01:05.56 | mentor | hopes desperately that zinx isn't involved in the security industry |
| 01:06.08 | zinx | we are talking about hardware issues here, right? |
| 01:06.13 | abrotman | we don't know ... |
| 01:06.19 | zinx | >_< |
| 01:06.20 | abrotman | he's testing the hardware first |
| 01:06.40 | dvs | zanshin: It's an 802.11n draft device |
| 01:06.46 | mentor | You're supposed to start at the other end and run in the opposite direction |
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| 01:06.56 | eintw1ck | Who made flex? |
| 01:07.15 | abrotman | GNU |
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| 01:07.48 | eintw1ck | Crap wrong channel |
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| 01:08.24 | zanshin | dvs: Does that mean it should be capable of n? |
| 01:08.38 | dvs | yes |
| 01:09.48 | zanshin | dvs: Is there something in Wheezy that needs to be setup for that? I'm sitting on a dualband network I myself set up and i dont see the 802.11n's ssid |
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| 01:10.17 | dvs | Oh, it may not be capable of dual band. |
| 01:10.57 | zanshin | dvs: does that matter? Isn't dualband just blasting out 802.11a/b/g at 2.4Ghz and 802.11n at 5GHz? |
| 01:11.44 | dvs | zanshin: No, 802.11n works with both 2.4Ghz and 5GHz |
| 01:12.10 | dvs | zanshin: Your adapter only works with 2.4GHz |
| 01:12.30 | zanshin | dvs: but I AM connected to the network. |
| 01:12.48 | dvs | Must be a 2.4GHz network. |
| 01:13.04 | zanshin | so that means that one ssid is 2.4GHz band and one is 5GHz band, which means the n is on the 5GHz? |
| 01:13.22 | dvs | That's what I'm sensing |
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| 01:13.41 | zanshin | dvs: Any way to tweak/verify? |
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| 01:14.09 | dvs | zanshin: Check your router configuration? |
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| 01:23.20 | Hassen | in debian site, there are many links for many CD's ,like: |
| 01:23.21 | Hassen | debian-7.3.0-i386-CD-4.iso |
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| 01:23.32 | Hassen | [ ] debian-7.3.0-i386-lxde-CD-1.iso |
| 01:23.38 | dvs | Hassen: We said the netinstall iso |
| 01:23.39 | Hassen | [ ] debian-7.3.0-i386-CD-1.iso |
| 01:23.51 | Hassen | dvs, my bandwidth isn't that good |
| 01:24.12 | Hassen | how luc hwill i have to download in netinstall mode? |
| 01:24.18 | Hassen | *much* |
| 01:24.20 | dvs | But it will only download what you want. |
| 01:25.41 | Hassen | but why shouldn't I just download whole iso at once? |
| 01:26.30 | dvs | It's only 221MB |
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| 01:27.28 | ^qop^ | anyway, I have problems connecting this two hosts with crossover cable. I did: |
| 01:27.32 | Hassen | dvs, now can you tell me why there is CDi's in the site?(where i from 1 to 8 or 9+) |
| 01:27.44 | zh1 | tu upgrade debian 7.2.0 to 7.3.0, how is it done? |
| 01:27.44 | Hassen | *there are* |
| 01:28.00 | dvs | Hassen: For those that don't have an internet connection |
| 01:28.32 | ^qop^ | oops... I did: "ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.10 netmask 255.0.0.0 up" and 10.1.1.100 on the other |
| 01:28.36 | dvs | zh1: aptitude full-upgrade |
| 01:28.51 | ^qop^ | I have the ip using ifconfig but I can not ping eachother |
| 01:28.57 | abrotman | Hassen: the netinst is the most efficient way |
| 01:29.31 | Hassen | ummm...since netinst is the most advised one,then I see. |
| 01:30.09 | dvs | Hassen: We've been saying that all along |
| 01:30.30 | Hassen | dvs, doh |
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| 01:51.18 | HicksD | obnam force-lock |
| 01:51.32 | HicksD | um, sorry, wrong focus. |
| 01:51.39 | dvs | shazam! |
| 01:52.06 | Hassen | quoi? |
| 01:52.20 | loeken | rien |
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| 02:40.18 | mekeor`` | hey guys. i fucked up. i need really urgent help. please! shit, man! i accidentally removed my code. -.- :O :/ :( |
| 02:40.22 | mekeor`` | how can i restore it? |
| 02:40.27 | mekeor`` | it it possible? |
| 02:40.35 | zinx | what filesystem |
| 02:40.36 | mekeor`` | i did "rm *.java". |
| 02:40.43 | mekeor`` | i think ext3 or ext4 or so |
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| 02:40.47 | zinx | probably not |
| 02:40.51 | mekeor`` | fuck |
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| 02:42.10 | dvs | whispers "version control system" |
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| 02:42.50 | mekeor`` | yeah... |
| 02:43.02 | abrotman | yells "backup" |
| 02:43.17 | mekeor`` | i use a vcs for personal projects but this is for homework.. |
| 02:43.28 | rww | i use a vcs for homework |
| 02:43.34 | rww | well, i did until i stopped having homework |
| 02:43.58 | mekeor`` | i usually use emacs which makes backup files but i (have to) use eclipse for java which doesn't seem to have backup files. |
| 02:43.59 | abrotman | feels like homeworkis probably more important than personal projects? |
| 02:44.00 | mekeor`` | does it? |
| 02:44.13 | mekeor`` | yeah :D |
| 02:44.16 | mekeor`` | hm |
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| 02:44.37 | dvs | If it's still in Eclipse, can't you save it again? |
| 02:45.04 | mekeor`` | i had closed the buffers... -.- |
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| 02:45.34 | mekeor`` | i guess i fucked up. i failed. |
| 02:45.40 | mekeor`` | i will never forget this day. |
| 02:45.47 | mekeor`` | i will never forget you trying to help me. |
| 02:45.55 | abrotman | this is a day that will live in infamy .. |
| 02:46.26 | dvs | ...just like yesterday |
| 02:46.34 | mekeor`` | this is a day that will lead me to have a bad grade because this fucking homework is graded! man! |
| 02:46.38 | mekeor`` | oh man. |
| 02:46.50 | abrotman | mekeor``: do you need anything else? |
| 02:46.52 | mekeor`` | sorry for disturbing you, guys.. :/ |
| 02:46.56 | mekeor`` | abrotman: love |
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| 02:47.26 | mekeor`` | hey |
| 02:47.27 | mekeor`` | wait |
| 02:47.31 | mekeor`` | there is a backup |
| 02:47.32 | mekeor`` | in eclipse |
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| 02:47.57 | abrotman | mekeor``: lay off your enter key, it's annoying |
| 02:48.39 | mekeor`` | OH MY GOSH |
| 02:48.49 | mekeor`` | i ε> eclipse |
| 02:49.07 | mekeor`` | abrotman: okay, i am sorry. thank you. thank you guys. thanks :) |
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| 04:00.27 | kareem | i set up a raid0 on two 3tb drives and did some testing. usind hdparm, the drives were faster than my OS 2tb drive. but when i mount the raid0 drive and access it over the network, i get write speeds of less than a mb, anybody have any ideas why? |
| 04:00.37 | kareem | whereas the 2tb OS is close to 100mb/s |
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| 04:02.30 | Mikicacarica | Click LIKE if you love animals --> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Interesting-Animals/1377734232467221 |
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| 04:02.52 | buu | kareem: How did you mount it over the network? |
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| 04:06.28 | kareem | buu, samba |
| 04:09.31 | buu | kareem: What kind of speed does copying local files give you? |
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| 04:11.10 | kareem | buu, less than a megabyte |
| 04:11.18 | kareem | around 600kb |
| 04:11.39 | kareem | i first thought it was because of the raid0 setup, but after testing using hdparm, that doesn't seem to be the culprit |
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| 04:13.39 | buu | kareem: hdparm appears to be lying to you |
| 04:13.46 | buu | Or at any rate, its not the network |
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| 04:14.03 | Penix | yeah, forget what hdparm says. 1MB/s is utter crap. something's wrong |
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| 04:14.21 | kareem | is there another bench i should try? |
| 04:14.47 | ^qop^ | Hey there. I have two machines connected through a crossover eth and assigned ip to each with "ifconfig eth0 10.1.1.10 netmask 255.0.0.0 up" and 10.1.1.100 on the other. But ping fails between machines |
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| 04:14.58 | buu | kareem: try using dd |
| 04:15.03 | Penix | ^qop^: you've got a proper crossover cable now? |
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| 04:15.16 | ^qop^ | Penix: yup :) |
| 04:15.20 | ^qop^ | made one |
| 04:15.25 | buu | ^qop^: what does route say? |
| 04:15.50 | kareem | i also have a 500gb portable hdd connected to the server, same crappy speeds with it. only good speeds i get is with the 2tb os drive |
| 04:16.03 | ^qop^ | 10.0.0.0 * 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 04:16.15 | ^qop^ | :o |
| 04:16.20 | buu | kareem: How are they connected to the motherboard? |
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| 04:16.26 | ^qop^ | 10.0.0.... 0? |
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| 04:17.01 | ^qop^ | oh yes |
| 04:17.13 | kareem | buu, the 2 3tb drives are connected to the sata6 ports as they are sata6 drives and the 500gb via usb |
| 04:17.18 | ^qop^ | duh, im a little tipsy :P |
| 04:17.37 | kareem | the main 2tb drive is connected via a sata3 port |
| 04:17.44 | ^qop^ | anyway, the other one is the same but with metric 5 |
| 04:18.03 | buu | kareem: what does: dd if=/dev/zero of=/raid/mount/point/foo bs=1MB count=100; report? |
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| 04:18.20 | buu | ^qop^: That seems reasonable.. I assume they can ping themselves? |
| 04:18.29 | buu | ^qop^: But perhaps add a default route? |
| 04:19.52 | kareem | buu: dd: opening `/raid/mount/point/foo': No such file or directory |
| 04:20.40 | ^qop^ | buu: ok... |
| 04:24.06 | uiopoiu | I did a net install on a pentium m radeon 9600 laptop but the left click mouse tap doesn't work, the audio is muted and at the start up check it says gpu acceleration disabled missing firmware or something, would it still have these problems if I installed from the live image ? |
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| 04:30.29 | kareem | buu: http://i.imgur.com/cveSrzb.gif |
| 04:30.45 | kareem | where share is primary drive, raid is the new raid, and share2 is the usb portable drive |
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| 04:33.04 | codygman | Hi, I'm trying to use my laptops hdmi port and it doesn't seem to be working, how can I debug that? |
| 04:33.43 | codygman | xrandr doesn't seem to be even showing the device |
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| 04:35.57 | buu | kareem: Um. Can you test the drives un-raided? Replace cables? Swap slots on the mobo? |
| 04:36.01 | buu | kareem: This seems likely to be hardware related |
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| 04:45.52 | fireant | uiopoiu: you can enable tapping with synclient, restore alsa settings at boot with amixer |
| 04:46.12 | fireant | and then ask ;) |
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| 05:22.19 | Okee | I am new to Debian stable, and receiving an error message that says user name is not in shudders file. I have researched solutions online, and find multiple options, that don't seem to remedy my problem.I switched to /etc and noticed there is a directory for sudoers.d and a file called shudders. |
| 05:23.00 | Okee | I tried visudo, but get an error message indicating command not found. I did find a man page for it. I am using Debian stable . . . ha ha. |
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| 05:23.16 | Okee | is visudo installed by default in debian stable? |
| 05:28.54 | Okee | Is anyone alive and BREATHING? |
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| 05:31.49 | rww | yes it is |
| 05:32.19 | rww | your user account probably does not have /usr/sbin in its path |
| 05:32.29 | rww | you perhaps want su -c visudo |
| 05:32.42 | rww | (the password it wants is the root password) |
| 05:32.43 | Okee | rww> I am a newbie, so thanks for your patience. |
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| 05:34.32 | Okee | ok. OI am in the file shudders.tmp, and it says secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sibin:/usr/bin:sib in:/bin" |
| 05:35.03 | Okee | meant to say sudoers.tmp instead of shudders.tmp My macbook autocorrected it wrong. |
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| 05:35.49 | Okee | rww> why such a convoluted path? Does this need to be changed? |
| 05:36.14 | rww | Okee: what are you ultimately wanting to do? run programs with administrator privileges using sudo? |
| 05:36.20 | Okee | yes |
| 05:36.27 | Okee | rww> yes |
| 05:36.37 | Okee | I wanted to run apt-get install, etc. |
| 05:37.22 | rww | dpkg: sudoers |
| 05:37.22 | dpkg | From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, you can grant yourself (minimally secure) root permissions for <sudo> by adding yourself to the "sudo" group: "adduser your_username sudo". See the man pages indicated by "apropos sudo" for more information. |
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| 05:37.41 | rww | so in your case, that would be su -c "adduser your_username_here sudo" |
| 05:37.53 | rww | and then log out and back in again, as group changes don't take effect until then |
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| 05:40.34 | Okee | I tried that, and received an error message indicating no password entry, and I am wondering if it is looking for sudo instead of su? So I tried sudo -c username sudo and then it displayed a requested syntax. |
| 05:41.00 | rww | no, it's su -c. it should ask you for a password, and you'd type your root password in |
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| 05:41.48 | Okee | I typed su -c username sudo and it came back with an error message indicating no password entry for user "sudo" |
| 05:43.04 | ar | Okee: su - username -c sudo |
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| 05:43.34 | ar | or, maybe not |
| 05:44.14 | Okee | It came back with a syntax error for sudo, and displayed the usage options. I am going to study this for a couple of minutes. |
| 05:44.15 | ar | Okee: su - username -c "sudo su -" |
| 05:44.16 | rww | that's... not what I said to put :P |
| 05:45.19 | Okee | rww: What did you say to put? |
| 05:45.30 | rww | su -c "adduser your_username_here sudo" |
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| 05:45.36 | rww | the only thing to change there is the your_username_here |
| 05:46.18 | Okee | it worked. Now if I want to change the username, how do I do that? |
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| 05:47.28 | Okee | I received a confirmation that username was added to the group sudo, but still receive an error message that the username is not in the shudders file. |
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| 05:48.30 | rww | 05:37:53 < rww> and then log out and back in again, as group changes don't take effect until then |
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| 06:01.25 | sklav | Hi guys i have a question related to wheezy-backports |
| 06:01.48 | sklav | i believe i have encountered a weird bug |
| 06:02.23 | sklav | im installing linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-amd64 but it never loads lvm but if i add rootdelay=5 it works |
| 06:02.43 | sklav | this also happens with the 3.10.x image from wheezy-backports |
| 06:03.08 | sklav | on my system with an ssd i have no issues using the same kernels |
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| 06:03.31 | sklav | only thing is the one with the issue is sata and running softraid 1 |
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| 06:14.01 | Tasab_ | hi all , debian or arch linux which is better , so did arch shpporting most lang |
| 06:14.26 | rww | Tasab_: you're in #debian, so obviously we are going to say Arch Linux |
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| 06:14.34 | sklav | ;) |
| 06:15.29 | sklav | if your question is legit the answer from my point of view is how much do you enjoy fixing your system after it breaks |
| 06:15.47 | sklav | i persoally moved away from arch to debian |
| 06:15.49 | rryoumaa | arch has a magnificent wiki |
| 06:15.54 | sklav | agreed |
| 06:16.05 | sklav | i use it almost daily |
| 06:16.13 | rryoumaa | debian seems to not require you to sit there and hold its hand |
| 06:16.25 | rryoumaa | as much |
| 06:16.27 | sklav | not always ;) |
| 06:16.31 | rryoumaa | but what do i know? i have not used arch. |
| 06:16.37 | sklav | beat me to it |
| 06:16.54 | sklav | arch is nice if you want the latest and greatest |
| 06:16.59 | rryoumaa | i find them all to suck, actually |
| 06:17.13 | sklav | but with that comes breakage |
| 06:17.29 | rryoumaa | more so than jessie or unstable? |
| 06:17.30 | sklav | i prefer to run stable with backports in general |
| 06:17.57 | sklav | i like to know latest update has not broken my system |
| 06:18.10 | sklav | in general it is well tested |
| 06:18.35 | sklav | i say try arch and see for yourself |
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| 06:18.53 | nonconvergent | Are ecdsa still the best keys for ssh? |
| 06:18.56 | sklav | you get to learn alot about what it takes to get linux in a working state |
| 06:18.57 | rryoumaa | what surprised me is the number of things that were broken in wheezy. i don't recall debian of 6 years ago or so being like that |
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| 06:19.12 | nonconvergent | rryoumaa: What is broken? |
| 06:19.27 | Okee | rww> I am still getting an error message that user name is not in the sudoer's file. However, I did get a confirmation that the user name was added after typing su -c "adduser your_username_here sudo" |
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| 06:19.53 | rryoumaa | nonconvergent: i don't remember all of them, but one thing after another. sound is flaky, iceweasel, bits of fluxbox, etc. |
| 06:20.00 | nonconvergent | rryoumaa: If fresh install, likely nothing is broken, only missing nonfree firmware. By design. |
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| 06:20.22 | rryoumaa | pretty standard sound card though |
| 06:20.26 | nonconvergent | rryoumaa: All of those, except for flux which I don't use, worked fine for me out of the box. |
| 06:20.42 | rryoumaa | which suggests that it is not just nonfree firmware missing |
| 06:20.43 | sklav | same here in general no issue with wheezy |
| 06:21.01 | nonconvergent | rryoumaa: It sounds to me like your problems are more uniquely yours. |
| 06:21.03 | rryoumaa | i figure it must work for most people else it would not have been released |
| 06:21.04 | sklav | using openbox |
| 06:21.12 | nonconvergent | xmonad |
| 06:21.14 | sklav | and another install with default gnome |
| 06:21.27 | Okee | This is very strange. I tried to add username, and received a message that user is already in the shudders file, but when I typed sudo apt-get install chat, I received a message indicating username is not in shudders file. How can that be? |
| 06:21.55 | rww | 05:37:53 < rww> and then log out and back in again, as group changes don't take effect until then |
| 06:21.58 | sklav | service sudo restart |
| 06:21.58 | nonconvergent | Okee: you have to logout and back in again. |
| 06:22.27 | rryoumaa | debian strikes the right balance with flossiness and maintenance and stuff though, so i just sort of would prefer it if the 1000 distros would collapse to 10 and debian got polished more or something |
| 06:22.28 | nonconvergent | A new terminal won't do it, as those usually are not login shells. |
| 06:24.29 | Okee | OK. I am now being prompted to insert the disc labeled 'Debian GNU/Linux 7.0.0 _Wheezy_, but I want to install direct from the repository instead of from disk. |
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| 06:25.00 | sklav | need to modify your /etc/apt/source |
| 06:25.14 | Okee | Hmmm…. ok.. |
| 06:25.42 | sklav | add a # to block the cdrom from being used |
| 06:26.08 | sklav | the repo line anyways that has the CD |
| 06:27.29 | Okee | Is Wheezy the same as stable? |
| 06:27.37 | rryoumaa | yes |
| 06:28.01 | rryoumaa | until 2014-11-something |
| 06:28.03 | Okee | I am looking at the sources.list and it shows two mirrors. |
| 06:28.04 | rryoumaa | or something |
| 06:28.28 | rryoumaa | oops, i was wrong about the date thing, never mind |
| 06:29.17 | Okee | Where does that # go in the command line: sudo apt-get install chat ?? |
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| 06:30.04 | sklav | Okee, use pastebin |
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| 06:30.12 | sklav | easier to see what your talking about |
| 06:32.00 | Okee | sklav> Where do I add the # to prevent the CDRom from being used? I thought the error message was strange, since the sources.list file only list two mirrors, with no reference to the CD Rom? |
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| 06:32.24 | sklav | okee apt-get update |
| 06:32.24 | Okee | sklav> what would you like me to paste in the paste bin? |
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| 06:32.39 | sklav | and then try installing again |
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| 06:33.47 | sklav | okee do sudo apt-get update |
| 06:34.13 | Okee | sklav> Received two error messages at the end of the update, indicating that: 1) Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable), 2) Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
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| 06:34.46 | sklav | Okee use sudo |
| 06:35.18 | Okee | I am using sudo. I just typed sudo apt-get install xchat, and received the same error message that I received at the end of the update. |
| 06:35.51 | sklav | well paste you /etc/apt/source.list on pastebin |
| 06:35.59 | Okee | ok |
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| 06:43.33 | Okee | sklav> sources.list: http://pastebin.com/ws018wdG |
| 06:43.57 | Okee | Now that I am looking at it, I think I should remove or mark out the DVDRW. |
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| 06:44.52 | Okee | Or maybe move them to the end of the file? I am in the file now with the vi editor. |
| 06:45.07 | sklav | yes you should |
| 06:45.15 | Okee | I guess I could just mark it out with a #. |
| 06:45.21 | sklav | you commented out 1 |
| 06:45.31 | sklav | yes do that then apt-get update |
| 06:45.46 | sklav | then you can apt-get install |
| 06:46.09 | Okee | OK. I marked it out with a #. |
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| 06:47.21 | sklav | also you might want to look into non-free addition to your repo's after you get xchat installed ;) |
| 06:48.14 | Okee | sklav: I would like to stay with stable. Last night I was told about about a website that I could use for stable that was added, but not in the repository, but I can't remember what it is. |
| 06:48.55 | sklav | Okee your using wheezy so your on stable |
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| 06:49.17 | sklav | past that you might want to read offcial website for more information |
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| 06:50.46 | sklav | when i said non-free you can get example nvidia drivers and pretty much software that full under a different licene for lack of a better description |
| 06:50.56 | sklav | and with that im calling it a night |
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| 06:53.41 | dgriffi | does anyone happen to know the name of the package that allows a Thinkpad T420 to reboot itself? |
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| 06:54.12 | dgriffi | I'm trying to roll a custom installer that doesn't include a gui, so I didn't select the "Desktop" option |
| 06:54.20 | mhall | I am getting some weird X.org package errors when trying to dist-upgrade: http://pastebin.com/re1xZjM7 Has anybody else seen this and fixed it? I am thinking, but can't tell for sure, that some of these graphics chips must've been discontinued. Any thoughts? |
| 06:54.58 | dgriffi | The resulting system works fine, but the reboot and shutdown commands won't reboot or shutodown the machine. This problem doesn't happen if I selected "Desktop". |
| 06:55.33 | Okee | sklav> I am having trouble saving the contents of the sources.list file, while in vi. I typed :wq and it came back with an error message 'readonly' option is set (add ! to override). How do I fix this? |
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| 06:57.01 | Okee | I tried to look up a man page on my macbook pro, but didn't find the "readonly" option in vim, the default command line editor. |
| 06:57.13 | rww | you need to do sudo vi, not just vi |
| 06:57.20 | dgriffi | Okee: check the perms on the file you're trying to edit |
| 06:57.34 | Okee | perms? |
| 06:57.42 | dgriffi | Okee: file permissions |
| 06:58.12 | dgriffi | Okee: like this: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1080 Dec 7 22:23 /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:58.17 | Okee | dgriffi> Doesn't that have to be checked before you enter the file? |
| 06:58.26 | Okee | I am already in the file with the vi editor. |
| 06:58.36 | dgriffi | that means you can read the file, but not write to it. |
| 06:58.37 | Okee | Yes, I know about chmod. |
| 06:58.49 | dgriffi | you need to make sure you have the rights to write to the file before you begin |
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| 06:59.06 | dgriffi | to do that, use the sudo command... like "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list" |
| 06:59.12 | Okee | but what about that ! command that was in the status message? Can the permissions be changed after I am already in the file? |
| 06:59.25 | dgriffi | yes |
| 06:59.38 | dgriffi | but you don't want to monkey with the perms of a system file |
| 07:00.02 | Okee | what do you recommend? |
| 07:00.08 | Okee | control z out of the file? |
| 07:00.11 | dgriffi | no |
| 07:00.14 | stew | Okee: write permissions aren't checked before you open a file in vim, only read permissions |
| 07:00.20 | rww | :wq!, then use sudo |
| 07:00.35 | buu | Okee: :q! |
| 07:00.45 | buu | Okee: sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 07:00.48 | rww | oh, right, not w |
| 07:00.49 | buu | :wq |
| 07:00.53 | dgriffi | omit the 'q' from rww's advice |
| 07:01.01 | dgriffi | if sudo tells you off, do this: |
| 07:01.04 | dgriffi | su |
| 07:01.09 | dgriffi | <root password> |
| 07:01.28 | dgriffi | adduser username sudo |
| 07:01.31 | dgriffi | then logout and back in |
| 07:01.34 | rww | dgriffi: they already did that bit |
| 07:01.46 | dgriffi | rww: oops. |
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| 07:02.10 | dgriffi | I'll just sit back and see if anyone knows the answer to my question |
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| 07:03.08 | buu | dgriffi: what does happen when you run 'shutdown'? Have you tried stracing it? |
| 07:03.35 | dgriffi | buu: it gets to the point where it should turn itself off or reboot and it just sits there |
| 07:04.18 | buu | dgriffi: Oh you mean it shuts down the OS but doesn't trigger the bios to turn off? |
| 07:04.25 | dgriffi | buu: right |
| 07:04.32 | buu | Sounds like, um, acpi? |
| 07:04.57 | dgriffi | buu: that's what the linux-thinkpad list thought, and that package is already installed |
| 07:05.13 | mhall | I am getting some weird X.org package errors when trying to dist-upgrade: http://pastebin.com/re1xZjM7 Has anybody else seen this and fixed it? I am thinking, but can't tell for sure, that some of these graphics chips must've been discontinued. Any thoughts? |
| 07:05.49 | buu | dgriffi: Install more random acpi packages! modprobe all the things! I got nothing! |
| 07:05.59 | mhall | I think I have a better answer dgriffi . |
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| 07:07.53 | mhall | dgriffi: Did you yet try the "poweroff" utility? Various "bug fixes" to various Debians and Ubuntus caused "shutdown" and "halt" to have unexpectedly useless behavior when run. |
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| 07:11.06 | dgriffi | mhall: I never used that command |
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| 07:12.04 | mhall | dgriffi: Let me know if it works any better than the others. |
| 07:12.28 | mhall | dgriffi: I ran into this issue before and that fixed it for me, it turned out, they broke the behavior of the utilities. |
| 07:12.31 | Okee | finally got it to work. Thanks for you help. I am going to sleep. |
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| 07:13.18 | dgriffi | mhall: "fixed" in what sense? this problem disappears if I choose "Desktop" from the initial software install screen |
| 07:13.29 | mhall | Maybe I missed something |
| 07:14.04 | mhall | In the case that desktop is not chosen, are acpi, acpi-support-base, and acpid still present? |
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| 07:15.05 | mhall | Without acpid in particular, a lot of shutdown-ish and button stuff doesn't work for me |
| 07:15.26 | dgriffi | going to have to wait a bit to test that. |
| 07:15.55 | mhall | Sure, meanwhile if you have a command prompt you can try dpkg --get-selections | fgrep -i acpi to check |
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| 07:16.45 | dgriffi | here's what I'm up to, in case anyone's curious: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Debian_on_a_ThinkPad_T420 |
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| 07:36.19 | dgriffi | mhall: I'm not sure what I did differently this time. All those packages you mentioned are installed and a reboot went as expected |
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| 07:42.16 | dgriffi | MATE won't be coming to Wheezy, right? |
| 07:42.27 | dgriffi | it'll only be in the next release onward? |
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| 07:46.22 | dgriffi | now a question about preseeding... is there some built-in way to tell the installer to install a package like dpkg -i does it rather than how it appears to use "apt-get"? |
| 07:46.43 | koshie | Hi dgriffi, https://www.duckduckgo.com/lite |
| 07:46.47 | koshie | oups, bad link |
| 07:46.49 | koshie | http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download |
| 07:46.53 | koshie | this is better :) |
| 07:47.02 | koshie | you've a repo for MATE into Wheezy |
| 07:47.26 | dgriffi | koshie: I'm aware of that. I was just wondering when MATE would make it into the Debian repos |
| 07:47.46 | rww | dgriffi: correct, not in wheezy |
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| 07:48.05 | koshie | ANd there is a repo for testing too, so... Maybe for after Jessie. |
| 07:48.31 | dgriffi | well, if it's in testing, then should it be in Jessie? |
| 07:48.54 | dgriffi | does anyone here grok preseed.cfg? |
| 07:49.07 | dgriffi | I'm trying to understand how to install packages with it |
| 07:49.28 | dgriffi | I tried a file with lines like this: |
| 07:49.36 | dgriffi | d-i pkgsel/include alsa-base_1.0.25+3~deb7u1_all.deb |
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| 07:49.45 | dgriffi | but that didn't result in the deb getting installed |
| 07:49.58 | koshie | why not using apt-get to install a package? |
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| 07:50.45 | dgriffi | koshie: because I'm trying to get preseeding to install wicd and then present the user with a machine without a GUI, but can still get on WIFI |
| 07:51.33 | koshie | You've wicd-curses package to get wifi without GUI |
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| 07:51.39 | koshie | I'm not sure to understand your goal :) |
| 07:51.49 | dgriffi | koshie: but the installer doesn't install wicd by default |
| 07:51.54 | koshie | Oooh |
| 07:51.54 | koshie | ok |
| 07:52.02 | koshie | I see, you want it at the installation. |
| 07:52.09 | dgriffi | yes! |
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| 07:52.33 | dgriffi | I want to do an install without pulling anything from the network |
| 07:52.41 | koshie | My only knowledge about this kind of goal is to make your own debian iso. Based on the real one, you add some package to be installed by the system installation. |
| 07:52.53 | ksuhku | dgriffi, familiar with this? |
| 07:52.55 | ksuhku | !preseed |
| 07:52.55 | dpkg | [preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process, to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The <install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding with a full example. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed and http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 . See also <debconf-set-selections>. |
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| 07:54.12 | dgriffi | I've been reading those already |
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| 07:58.20 | dgriffi | okay, I think I understand that the "d-i pkgsel/include" command works through APT and does not take an actual filename |
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| 08:00.00 | dgriffi | this bugs me... the install CD (and DVD) do not include wicd |
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| 08:01.21 | qop | that's wicd dude |
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| 08:02.34 | ksuhku | I believe you can add it yourself, probably need to take something out to make space |
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| 08:32.56 | kareem | buu, sorry i bsod'd |
| 08:33.02 | kareem | i actually did end up un-raiding |
| 08:33.10 | kareem | but same speeds unfortunately |
| 08:34.07 | kareem | if it was hw indeed, how likely would it be for both to be affected? |
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| 08:36.46 | kareem | root@syriangasol:~# dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/share3b/foos bs=1MB count=300 |
| 08:36.46 | kareem | 300+0 records in |
| 08:36.46 | kareem | 300+0 records out |
| 08:36.46 | kareem | 300000000 bytes (300 MB) copied, 15.0958 s, 19.9 MB/s |
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| 08:37.05 | kareem | pathetically slow :( |
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| 08:49.14 | kareem | here is an updated dd test: http://imgur.com/cN0ctT7 |
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| 08:58.00 | madmac2501 | how can I debug this problem? "failing step select and install software" |
| 08:58.16 | madmac2501 | also I get "tasksel aptitude failed (255)" |
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| 09:06.05 | ksuhku | madmac2501, during install? |
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| 09:11.08 | madmac2501 | ksuhku, yes |
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| 09:12.55 | ksuhku | madmac2501, are you online during the install? |
| 09:13.17 | madmac2501 | ksuhku, I think that yes |
| 09:13.25 | madmac2501 | I am deploying on a virtual machine |
| 09:13.51 | madmac2501 | ksuhku, what log do I see to be sure that the network is the problem? |
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| 09:14.32 | ksuhku | don't know about that, I vaguely remember having a similar problem and conquering it somehow... |
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| 09:16.46 | madmac2501 | ksuhku, what do you recommend me to debug this? |
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| 09:20.56 | ksuhku | madmac2501, I was hoping to find notes about my issue but can't seem to |
| 09:21.02 | ksuhku | perhaps check the sources |
| 09:21.28 | madmac2501 | ksuhku, ok, thank you |
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| 09:26.29 | dgriffi | question about preseed.cfg grammar |
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| 09:42.11 | banana` | now its kind of working but not really, i did xmodmap -e "keysym Alt_L DOWN = Next", and now ALT is PGDN but alt+down does nothing |
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| 09:47.30 | dFence | hey guys! Can you help me out pls? I need a regex that matches every line beginning with a dash (-) AND contains at least one ? |
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| 09:47.58 | dFence | I got until /^- ;) |
| 09:48.03 | banana` | ... /^-.*\?.*/ |
| 09:48.16 | dFence | aah... crap |
| 09:48.25 | dFence | banana`: thanks, I fogot the part after \? |
| 09:48.25 | banana` | :p |
| 09:48.31 | banana` | ya |
| 09:48.35 | dFence | it's too logical for me ;) |
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| 10:24.47 | Amok_Huginnsson | Hi, I use sid, after todays update I can no longer login to X sessions with display manager (I tried kdm and slim) but I can still start X session with startx command. I do not have an idea where to begin looking for cause of this issue. Any suggestions? |
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| 10:27.01 | Amok_Huginnsson | kdm gives me no information, but silm tells me that it "faild to execute login command" |
| 10:27.09 | phogg | Amok_Huginnsson: perhaps the relevant changelogs mention something interesting. |
| 10:28.21 | Amok_Huginnsson | phogg: well, this machine was not updated in a long time (something like a month) so the update was about 1GiB in size, too big to grasp. |
| 10:28.43 | Amok_Huginnsson | phogg: I mean too big to guess which changelogs are relevant. |
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| 10:30.11 | phogg | Amok_Huginnsson: size in GiB doesn't matter. Look at the changelogs for X and the login managers and such. |
| 10:30.16 | p0g0 | Amok_Huginnsson: for grins, you might try to add a user and see if that new user is well managed, if it is, there's a clue. |
| 10:30.45 | Amok_Huginnsson | p0g0: I will try that. |
| 10:30.45 | phogg | Amok_Huginnsson: or just trace it manually: Get the source to KDM, find the string you get when it fails, find what it attempts to do before giving you that message |
| 10:33.02 | Amok_Huginnsson | p0g0: same behavior for new user. |
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| 10:33.44 | ksuhku | one thing to try would be purging and reinstalling the dms |
| 10:34.31 | p0g0 | Amok_Huginnsson: did you rerun the update and dist-upgrase a second time, on some rare occaisions, the second pass will finish out an incomplete dist-upgrade |
| 10:34.40 | Amok_Huginnsson | ksuhku: originally I used only kdm, I installed slim fresh after first symptoms. |
| 10:34.42 | p0g0 | *dist-upgrade |
| 10:35.04 | Amok_Huginnsson | p0g0: yup, I did dist-upgrade twice. |
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| 10:36.01 | p0g0 | 'k, I'd say you have a real task ahead. The trivial solutions didn't solve... |
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| 10:37.44 | Amok_Huginnsson | I .xprofile file that does some logging and I can see that at least .xprifile content is executed correctly (new test user does not have .xprofile file so .xprofile is not the issue here). |
| 10:37.55 | Amok_Huginnsson | *I have. |
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| 10:42.58 | VitoCorleone | There is a directory, and in CLI...how can I find out the whole size of that directory? |
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| 10:47.24 | Amok_Huginnsson | Ok, I found something interesting. |
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| 10:48.08 | Amok_Huginnsson | Actual X session startup looks like this: /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/startfluxbox |
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| 10:48.41 | Amok_Huginnsson | If I simply run it from console, I get this result "OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 1000105f, you have 10001060". |
| 10:48.50 | torax | VitoCorleone: du -sh |
| 10:49.04 | VitoCorleone | Is there a specific command to findout which directory is using the most space on a linux server? |
| 10:49.40 | torax | VitoCorleone: you can do "du -ch /" and then sort the output |
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| 10:50.37 | torax | VitoCorleone: du -ch | sort -h <- that is what comes to mind quickly |
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| 10:52.02 | ksuhku | VitoCorleone, if you're in need of disk space one thing you might want to get rid of is the apt package cache |
| 10:52.27 | ksuhku | ...and stale old kernels |
| 10:55.09 | Amok_Huginnsson | Ok, I solver (It is a workaround actually) my issue, I forcifully disabled ssh-agent startup. |
| 10:55.12 | Amok_Huginnsson | Thanks. |
| 10:55.15 | Amok_Huginnsson | Bye. |
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| 10:55.43 | Iridos | Amok_Huginnsson, if you can run graphical programs - e.g. via ssh -X or the likee, gdmap is a good tool to see where disk-space went... if not... yes, then du is a good tool ... e.g. also du -hs * |sort -h (but that skips all dot-files) |
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| 11:00.46 | zacts | where may I find official backports of iceweasel? |
| 11:01.11 | pengunix | zacts: what distribution version you got? wheezy? |
| 11:01.37 | zacts | wheezy |
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| 11:01.53 | pengunix | zacts: first, use the official package search for wheezy-packports and search for iceweasel. |
| 11:02.09 | zacts | packports? |
| 11:02.27 | pengunix | zacts: sorry |
| 11:02.31 | pengunix | zacts: I meant backports |
| 11:02.34 | zacts | ok |
| 11:02.50 | pengunix | zacts: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=iceweasel&searchon=names&suite=wheezy-backports§ion=all |
| 11:02.57 | pengunix | zacts: apparently it is not there... |
| 11:03.22 | pengunix | zacts: you can install it from stable, but in backports there is nothing |
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| 11:03.37 | pengunix | zacts: now you have several options, but first I need to know what version of iceweasel you need (at least) |
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| 11:04.09 | zacts | the version of iceweasel that matches the latest stable firefox |
| 11:05.29 | zacts | pengunix: ^ |
| 11:05.43 | rozie | zacts: http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 11:06.11 | zacts | is that official? |
| 11:06.23 | spacebison | yes |
| 11:06.26 | zacts | ok |
| 11:06.29 | rozie | define official |
| 11:06.49 | zacts | rozie: is it affiliated with the debian project? |
| 11:06.51 | pengunix | ah, they use another repository for the backports |
| 11:06.56 | rozie | it's made by Debian Mozilla team |
| 11:07.01 | zacts | oh, cool |
| 11:07.02 | spacebison | It's official enough for my use. |
| 11:07.10 | zacts | I'll use that then |
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| 11:10.42 | Manzin | guys, I mistakenly deleted /usr/local/cpanel, and now, when I try to start my httpd server, I get this error: "RewriteMap: file for map LeechProtect not found:/usr/local/cpanel/bin/leechprotect" - it isn't starting up, please help. |
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| 11:13.29 | pengunix | Manzin: How have you installed cpanel? Have you used an installer? A package? |
| 11:13.34 | pengunix | Manzin: What debian distribution? Wheezy? |
| 11:13.50 | Manzin | Yes, Wheezy. |
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| 11:14.47 | pengunix | Manzin: and how got cpanel on your server? Was it already there (installed by your provider)? |
| 11:14.55 | pengunix | Manzin: an installer or a debian package? |
| 11:15.00 | Manzin | How can I remove these lines: "<IfModule mod_rewrite.c> |
| 11:15.01 | Manzin | RewriteEngine on |
| 11:15.01 | Manzin | RewriteMap LeechProtect prg:/usr/local/cpanel/bin/leechprotect |
| 11:15.01 | Manzin | </IfModule>" in httpd.conf from commandline? I am not very good with a CLI editor. |
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| 11:15.42 | pengunix | he should have used pastebin... |
| 11:15.54 | pengunix | and he should rather fix the thing instead of removing whole parts |
| 11:16.20 | joj | pengunix: you could /query him if you were nice ... |
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| 11:21.02 | pengunix | ok |
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| 11:21.56 | mani_ | i need to put that (https://github.com/jackjack-jj/pywallet) on a debian live cd, but i am not sure what i need to include in the live cd; i see that the dependencies are: "aptitude install build-essential python-dev python-twisted python-bsddb3" but that doesn't really help, because this could themselves have more dependencies |
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| 11:22.24 | pengunix | joj: The nickname Manzin does not exist. Damn |
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| 11:23.29 | joj | pengunix: well, it -is- his fault. one should probably not mind it too much after all |
| 11:24.13 | pengunix | joj: he could have at least tried to reenter the channel... |
| 11:24.20 | pengunix | joj: so it wasn't so urgent then |
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| 11:26.42 | mani_ | also would you have an easy tutorial to make a custom live cd? |
| 11:27.14 | pengunix | mani_: what do you mean with 'custom'? |
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| 11:27.53 | mani_ | pengunix: like a debian live cd, but with some additional files (like in the message above) |
| 11:28.53 | pengunix | mani_: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD |
| 11:28.58 | pengunix | mani_: official debian wiki is your friend :) |
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| 11:29.52 | mani_ | pengunix: someone on #bitcoin told me that i could: install debian on a virtual machine, install pywallet, and then make a live cd from that |
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| 11:31.52 | pengunix | mani_: So you want to create a Debian Live CD from an existing Debian installation, right? |
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| 11:32.18 | pengunix | mani_: http://www.pacificsimplicity.ca/node/85 |
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| 11:32.44 | mani_ | pengunix: i don't have an existing debian install, but i could install one on a virtual machine just for the purpose of creating the live cd |
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| 11:37.39 | pengunix | mani_: why not |
| 11:37.55 | pengunix | mani_: do a basic install (no desktop and such stuff) and then you can use all those tools without problems |
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| 11:38.01 | ExeciN | I am trying to remove a directory using "rm -rf myDir" but I am getting this kind of error: "rm: cannot remove `myDir': Is a directory" What am I doing wrong? |
| 11:38.18 | pengunix | mani_: of course... one could also use a sadomasochistic cygwin-win32build-combination. |
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| 11:39.24 | pengunix | mani_: do you know how to install a debian system onto a vm? What VM are you using? What is dom0? |
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| 11:40.39 | mani_ | pengunix: i could try on vmware player, don't know what is dom0 |
| 11:41.39 | pengunix | mani_: dom0 is the 'true' operating system. What is yours? Windows 7? |
| 11:41.53 | mani_ | pengunix: ubuntu 13.10 |
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| 11:42.31 | pengunix | mani_: ubuntu and debian are quite intercompatible |
| 11:42.37 | mani_ | pengunix: could i boot the debian live cd on a virtual machine, install some stuff from there, and recreating a live cd (without ever installing the system on the virtual machine) |
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| 11:43.01 | pengunix | mani_: the recreated live cd has to be written to somewhere |
| 11:43.06 | pengunix | mani_: I would recommend an usb stick |
| 11:43.14 | pengunix | mani_: but when you use a virtual machine this is easier of course |
| 11:43.23 | pengunix | mani_: 64bit or 32bit live system? |
| 11:43.30 | mani_ | 32 |
| 11:43.52 | mani_ | at the end i need it on an iso file or dvd |
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| 11:45.25 | oo_miguel | I added a user to some groups with usermod, how can I make the changes come into effect? |
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| 11:45.48 | pengunix | mani_: ok, so you need a virtual machine first |
| 11:46.00 | pengunix | mani_: or have you already installed one? |
| 11:46.17 | mani_ | pengunix: i have vmware player installed, but no system installed on it |
| 11:46.48 | oo_miguel | oh , ok "su username" works ;) |
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| 11:47.30 | pengunix | mani_: creating a new virtual machine is tricky only with the vmware player |
| 11:47.36 | misu | sorry disconnected |
| 11:48.13 | misu | pengunix: did you say something before "creating"? |
| 11:48.53 | pengunix | misu: you were user mani_, right? |
| 11:48.57 | misu | yes |
| 11:49.11 | mani__ | sorry |
| 11:49.14 | pengunix | misu: no, I didn't wrote except that creating a new vm when having vmware player only is tricky |
| 11:49.22 | pengunix | mani___: ^^ |
| 11:49.46 | dFence | for some reason, patch won't take the patchfile I gave it: http://pastebin.com/f5100HNh ... it complains about a malformed patch at line 5 (in the pastebin) ... any idea why? |
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| 11:50.19 | pengunix | mani___: OK, so you got vmware player installed on an Ubuntu system, right? |
| 11:50.24 | pengunix | mani__: GUI version? |
| 11:50.24 | mani__ | pengunix: yes |
| 11:50.30 | pengunix | mani__: GUI version? |
| 11:50.31 | mani__ | pengunix: kde |
| 11:50.47 | pengunix | mani__: you got a fast internet connection? |
| 11:50.47 | mani__ | sorry, yes i have the GUI version |
| 11:51.07 | mani__ | pengunix: i'm downloading debian-live-7.2-i386-kde-desktop.iso |
| 11:51.10 | mani__ | 15 minutes left |
| 11:51.14 | mani__ | somehow fast |
| 11:51.34 | pengunix | mani__: ok, have you already virtual machines opened / running in there? |
| 11:51.56 | mani__ | pengunix: i have some windows 7 virtual machine installed, but not running |
| 11:52.09 | pengunix | mani__: ok, so now create a new virtual machine |
| 11:52.22 | pengunix | mani__: you know how to do this? |
| 11:52.27 | mani__ | ok, using the iso image i'm downloading? |
| 11:52.44 | dFence | anyone? |
| 11:52.53 | pengunix | mani__: yes, as installer iso, but don't start the thing until download is completed |
| 11:53.13 | pengunix | mani__: it can also be that it complains already now because the iso is locked / still incomplete (so it looks broken). |
| 11:53.31 | mani__ | pengunix: http://i.imgur.com/1uMGvk5.png |
| 11:53.55 | pengunix | mani__: ok, was there also a list with popular operating systems you can select from? |
| 11:54.14 | mani__ | pengunix: haven't seen it |
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| 11:54.46 | pengunix | mani__: ok, so try to pick the iso you are downloading yet |
| 11:54.57 | pengunix | mani__: if it does not complain yet, we can directly continue with configuration |
| 11:55.15 | wood_qui1n_ | Why does Unicode have 8, 16, and 32 bit sets instead of 8, 9, and 10 bit sets? |
| 11:55.15 | pengunix | mani__: if it does complain, you will have to wait the ca 10 minutes until the download completed. |
| 11:55.26 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: this is because it is binary |
| 11:55.32 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: it is always a power of 2 |
| 11:55.54 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: 2^3=8 2^4=16 2^5=32 |
| 11:56.16 | mani__ | pengunix: didn't complain too much |
| 11:56.41 | pengunix | mani__: ok, so now there is finally a list of operating systems? |
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| 11:56.42 | pengunix | mani__: or did it autodetect it? |
| 11:56.42 | mani__ | pengunix: yes, i set linux/debian 7; it wasn't able to autodetect |
| 11:56.42 | wood_qui1n_ | pengunix: That doesn't really answer the question. |
| 11:57.04 | wood_qui1n_ | You can use 7 bits to store a character just as easily as you can use 8 bits. |
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| 11:57.11 | wood_qui1n_ | Both operate on ^2. |
| 11:57.30 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: no? |
| 11:57.38 | wood_qui1n_ | 00000001 is 1, just like 000000001 is 1. |
| 11:57.46 | mani__ | http://i.imgur.com/3QcNLb0.png |
| 11:57.56 | wood_qui1n_ | There's no practical limitation, otherwise ASCII would have never worked. |
| 11:58.48 | wood_qui1n_ | I just ask because the increase in available space is pretty large when going from 8-9, and massive when going from 8-16. |
| 11:58.57 | wood_qui1n_ | So I wondered why use the extra space for every character. |
| 11:58.58 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: can you reach number 10 with a whole number exponentiated with 2? |
| 11:59.05 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: this is called padding |
| 11:59.11 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: important for forward correction |
| 11:59.21 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: look, otherwise it would be something like a solid archive |
| 11:59.44 | psycheye | so, I need route 192.168.1.0 to other lans |
| 11:59.59 | psycheye | do I need use iptables and/or route program? |
| 12:00.00 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: look, when you got a stream of bits, 8 or whatever of them resulting in a 'letter', you will need a delimiter |
| 12:00.16 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: alright, but what happens if only one single bit is lost? |
| 12:00.28 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: the whole thing is a mess |
| 12:00.29 | mani__ | pengunix: basically it only asks for single file/multiple file; but do i really need to install the virtual machine (can i just not boot the virtual machine on the live cd part of the iso, and recreate another live cd from that?) |
| 12:00.54 | pengunix | mani__: it would be much easier, otherwise you will have to use your own computer including the risk of messing it up |
| 12:00.54 | psycheye | any idea? |
| 12:00.56 | pengunix | mani__: but it should be quite easy |
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| 12:01.03 | pengunix | mani__: have you set the vm up now? |
| 12:01.18 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: and of course block addressing is possible, too |
| 12:01.21 | mani__ | pengunix: no sorry still downloading, ~5 minutes left |
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| 12:01.40 | pengunix | mani__: alright, and the virtual machine configuration in vmware player? |
| 12:01.47 | pengunix | mani__: have you finished it nearly? |
| 12:02.08 | mani__ | pengunix: yes i only had to click finish after selecting "store on single file" |
| 12:02.13 | pengunix | mani__: very good |
| 12:02.33 | pengunix | mani__: so when the iso is downloaded you can start the vm, it will boot the installer and you do a normal installation |
| 12:02.41 | pengunix | mani__: on the other hand, console alone would be fine, too |
| 12:02.47 | pengunix | mani__: have you enough storage space left? |
| 12:02.53 | mani__ | 10 GB |
| 12:03.01 | mani__ | 9 |
| 12:03.01 | pengunix | mani__: hm |
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| 12:03.11 | pengunix | mani__: what iso have you downloaded? |
| 12:03.31 | mani__ | debian-live-7.2-i386-kde-desktop.iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/ |
| 12:03.41 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: the whole addressing is based on blocks, so blocks are used completely |
| 12:03.48 | pengunix | mani__: ok |
| 12:03.56 | pengunix | mani__: this should boot without any prior installing |
| 12:03.59 | pengunix | mani__: good |
| 12:04.02 | pengunix | mani__: how much RAM you ahve got? |
| 12:04.04 | pengunix | *have |
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| 12:04.56 | mani__ | pengunix: 2 GB |
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| 12:05.52 | mani__ | pengunix: so i don't install it? |
| 12:06.28 | pengunix | mani__: no it is a live cd |
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| 12:06.37 | pengunix | mani__: when it finished downloading, just start the virtual machine |
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| 12:07.36 | mani__ | pengunix: ok it's running, should i install vmware tools? |
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| 12:08.11 | pengunix | mani__: not necessary |
| 12:08.22 | pengunix | mani__: now you read the page with the instructions I sent to you, you still got it? |
| 12:08.53 | mani__ | pengunix: no i lost it during the disconnect sorry |
| 12:09.52 | wood_qui1n_ | Instead we could increase storage requirements by 1.25 (8-10) and still quadruple the number of characters we could represent (128-512). |
| 12:10.04 | wood_qui1n_ | Just seems inefficient to increase storage requirements by 4 (8-32) and get 8 billion storable characters, when we don't need nearly that many. |
| 12:10.36 | pengunix | mani__: http://www.pacificsimplicity.ca/node/85 |
| 12:10.49 | pengunix | wood_qui1n_: it is a compromise |
| 12:11.00 | pengunix | wood_quinn_: if you are not using blocks you would get a streaming device instead |
| 12:11.22 | pengunix | wood_quinn_: there are many limitations, including performance problems, when using streaming device |
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| 12:11.44 | pengunix | mani__: you got a ramdisk, so installing packages would be possible, after restart they are gone. |
| 12:11.54 | wood_quinn_ | Hmm. |
| 12:12.23 | mani__ | pengunix: "If you don't require the installer - skip this step" so i should go straight to "creating the live cd iso" (after installing what i want on the booted system) |
| 12:12.28 | pengunix | wood_quinn_: I asked me the same, too. It is a good point. |
| 12:12.45 | pengunix | mani__: you will have to install it somewhere |
| 12:12.46 | wood_quinn_ | I get the concept. But I guess it still doesn't really explain why block sizes aren't 10 instead of X. |
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| 12:13.01 | wood_quinn_ | It's probably just a simplicity thing. Powers of two are easier to remember. |
| 12:13.06 | pengunix | wood_quinn_: no |
| 12:13.15 | pengunix | wood_quinn_: addressing works this way, it is fundamental |
| 12:13.27 | pengunix | wood_quinn_: the computer is structured like that |
| 12:13.38 | wood_quinn_ | Ah. That's a lower level than I'm familiar with. |
| 12:13.44 | wood_quinn_ | Which explains why i was confused. |
| 12:13.49 | olti | storage bit can not have 10 states |
| 12:14.00 | pengunix | olti: right, it would be a waste |
| 12:14.17 | pengunix | olti: one bit would be spared out |
| 12:14.39 | pengunix | mani__: everything works so far? |
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| 12:15.06 | olti | actually it has 10 states, but in binary :p |
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| 12:15.30 | pengunix | :-P |
| 12:15.32 | mani__ | pengunix: i'm trying to install pywallet etc. but it's lagging hard |
| 12:17.53 | mani__ | pengunix: once i've installed pywallet and dependencies, i install these http://i.imgur.com/I6S9uep.png on ubuntu right? but how will it know where to look for the Debian VM? |
| 12:18.23 | pengunix | mani__: you will have to store the resulting iso file onto the harddisk of virtual machine |
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| 12:18.52 | mani__ | pengunix: this means on the RAM? |
| 12:18.54 | pengunix | mani__: it is a live system, everything runs in the ramdisk, so it is lost after reboot and capacity is limited of course. The resulting iso is big so store it onto the harddisk. |
| 12:19.27 | mani__ | pengunix: how do i do that? |
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| 12:20.45 | pengunix | mani__: you simply specify the right path |
| 12:21.01 | pengunix | mani__: you can specify a path to which the iso should go, just use the virtual harddrive then |
| 12:21.15 | pengunix | mani__: hm, it could be of course that you will have to format the virtual harddisk before you can use it... |
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| 12:21.34 | mani__ | pengunix: ok i see, but all these packages (squashfs-tools genisoimage gawklive-boot etc.) i install them on the virtual machine? |
| 12:21.46 | user777 | hello |
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| 12:22.57 | user777 | doesn't debian detect wifi?? i have downloaded the debian gnome desktop from here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/?C=S;O=D |
| 12:23.30 | wood_quinn_ | You can detect wireless interfaces during installation if they are supported in the Linux kernel included with the Debian installer. |
| 12:23.48 | wood_quinn_ | I do that, for example, to connect to the WLAN here and use a package mirror during netinstalls. |
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| 12:24.49 | user777 | in the installation mode,as well as the after-installation one,i couldn't use my wifi adapter in debian kde desktop,so i decided to try another debian distro,which is now gnome desktop,and beeing installed in my laptop |
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| 12:25.18 | olti | sometimes the firmware is needed |
| 12:25.24 | wood_quinn_ | Did you try using lspci to see if the card was even visible? |
| 12:25.39 | user777 | i didn't get the netinstall version,but got a 1.2 gb iso entirely |
| 12:26.02 | user777 | wood_quinn_:no,i counted on my wired connection |
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| 12:26.22 | user777 | but was wondering whether i can use the wifi after the installation |
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| 12:27.11 | user777 | it just needed to get some updates within hte installation process,so i used my wired connection |
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| 12:27.27 | wood_quinn_ | You should be able to, barring unavailability of firmware. But if you can't use it during installation you may need to install nonfree firmware or something. |
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| 12:28.08 | Iridos | can I run a disk check on /home without leaving my desktop environment (i.e. without booting into single-user)? a long time ago, one could do mount /home -o remount,ro ... but now that only says /home is busy.... I guess I could do it via sysrq... not sure how safe that is, though |
| 12:28.08 | user777 | wood_quinn_:yes,that's what it is echoed in the installation process |
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| 12:28.16 | user777 | a non-free firmware thingy |
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| 12:29.28 | Iridos | yeah... sysrq-U would do it... then do a disk check on the ext4, then remount rw? |
| 12:29.29 | olti | user777: check if your card is supported and get the firmware |
| 12:29.30 | user777 | is there a direct command to fix this non-free firmwre? |
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| 12:31.52 | user777 | yeah lspci|grep -i wifi returned the 'intel corporation Wifi Link 5100 |
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| 12:34.03 | wood_quinn_ | Intel wireless is usually pretty well supported. |
| 12:34.38 | user777 | strange..wouldn't this happen in the debian netinstall distro? |
| 12:34.40 | olti | user777: maybe here: https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 12:34.41 | wood_quinn_ | https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 12:34.43 | wood_quinn_ | Lol |
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| 12:38.11 | bl4ckdu5t | I have some binaries that I don't want to be available to non-sudo users. Can I just move them from /usr/bin to /usr/bin ? |
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| 12:39.03 | VitoCorleone | Deb! |
| 12:39.04 | VitoCorleone | Ian! |
| 12:39.11 | VitoCorleone | Debara...I love you. |
| 12:39.16 | VitoCorleone | Ian....you're my true hero. |
| 12:39.18 | HicksD | bl4ckdu5t: directories don't make a difference, it's the execute permissions that matter |
| 12:39.23 | VitoCorleone | and Debian was formed. |
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| 12:39.37 | VitoCorleone | HicksD, your philosophy is amazing. |
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| 12:39.59 | VitoCorleone | "Directories don't make a difference, execute permissions matter." - HicksD |
| 12:40.10 | bl4ckdu5t | ok thanks HicksD. So I should just set a 744 to such binaries |
| 12:40.29 | petern_ | Definitely not 744 |
| 12:40.46 | user777 | is curious about Debian "wheezy" |
| 12:40.46 | ksk | hey guyse |
| 12:40.56 | ksk | is there an EOL date for squeeze yet? |
| 12:41.00 | petern_ | Oh wait, no, that'll do. 700 would make sense though. |
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| 12:41.26 | user777 | ksk:EOL date?? |
| 12:41.38 | ksk | user777: yes. |
| 12:41.47 | olti | end of life |
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| 12:43.34 | user777 | i know that word,but why even talking avout it's EOL? |
| 12:43.58 | ksk | so there is no date, but it will probably be one year after the wheezy release. thanks.. |
| 12:44.26 | ksk | user777: because one might want to know how long its going to be supported to know when one had to upgrade |
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| 12:46.35 | Iridos | dpkg, oldstable |
| 12:46.36 | dpkg | i guess oldstable is the previous stable version of Debian, as long as it is still supported by the security team. Squeeze (6.0) is oldstable. It is recommended to upgrade your system(s) to the current stable release, ask me about <oldstable->stable>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOldStable |
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| 12:47.18 | Iridos | ksk, I thought one year after release of a new stable is the definite date for the end of the support |
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| 12:48.30 | Iridos | ksk, if the wiki now says "about one year" I guess it's maybe not sooo definite... same with http://www.debian.org/security/faq#lifespan |
| 12:48.56 | ksk | the wiki says nothing, just notes how it was in the paste, and it was always about 1 year ;) |
| 12:50.03 | Iridos | the wiki says the same as the faq entry I pasted |
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| 12:52.28 | ksk | ,versions wine1.6 |
| 12:52.29 | judd | No package named 'wine1.6' was found in i386. |
| 12:52.31 | ksk | ,versions wine |
| 12:52.32 | judd | Package: wine on i386 -- squeeze: 1.0.1-3.1; jessie: 1.4.1-4; wheezy: 1.4.1-4; sid: 1.6.1-6 |
| 12:53.57 | VitoCorleone | I need a fine fuckin' glass of wine. |
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| 12:54.08 | VitoCorleone | gimme some wine. |
| 12:54.11 | VitoCorleone | GIMME SOME GODDAMN WINE. |
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| 13:12.39 | user777 | doh...i'm a bit disappointed in debian :( |
| 13:13.03 | sunoano | just upgraded my sid this morning now my awesome window manager doesn't start anymore but I hang on the dgm3 logon screen? |
| 13:13.15 | user777 | i must do things on my own..GNOME3 failed to load..Wifi adapter is not working,etc |
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| 13:13.50 | sunoano | s/dgm3/gdm3/ |
| 13:14.04 | user777 | and now updates' installation window seem to be stuck |
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| 13:16.29 | zophy | sunoano, my mousepad double clicks don't work on the gdm login, i have to use the keyboard keys to activate the login |
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| 13:16.48 | sunoano | is this happening after a recent update? |
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| 13:16.54 | ItsMeLenny | how would i go about launching the i386 version of a program when i have both it and the 64bit version installed? |
| 13:17.02 | sunoano | since two days ago all was fine here |
| 13:17.36 | zophy | no, it's always been this way |
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| 13:19.26 | fken | hello. I am trying to make a reboot from a java program without root access (nor sudoers account). Thanks to /etc/shutdow.allow method I am able to call a script in order to reboot but when i call the same script with the same user from the java program, ConsoleKit answer I have not the permission. |
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| 13:20.04 | fken | I added whoami in the script commands and it answered with the name of the user allowed by /etc/shutdown.allow |
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| 13:21.07 | fken | Do you have any idea about what's happening? |
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| 13:23.12 | user777 | is the netinstall version of debian strongly recommended? |
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| 13:23.22 | user777 | I gor the 1.3 G iso |
| 13:23.36 | user777 | but it seems to be getting troubles |
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| 13:25.10 | f8l | user777: Never heard of that before. Yes, netinstall is recommended. |
| 13:25.10 | VitoCorleone | we're all getting troubles. |
| 13:25.10 | VitoCorleone | we are not....some fuckin' anti-trouble people, user777. |
| 13:25.20 | VitoCorleone | you're tryna come here and tell us that you're gettin' some kind of trouble? |
| 13:25.28 | VitoCorleone | man the fuck up, user777. |
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| 13:25.35 | VitoCorleone | go right infront of those troubles. |
| 13:25.37 | VitoCorleone | and jizz right at em' |
| 13:25.46 | user777 | VitoCorleone: shushhhhh...no word |
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| 13:27.35 | f8l | user777: Where'd you get an image of such strange size? |
| 13:27.55 | VitoCorleone | f81: hes tryna amuse you. |
| 13:28.02 | VitoCorleone | he thinks you're some sort of....doorbanging cunt, f81. |
| 13:29.05 | f8l | VitoCorleone: I guess you can't even tell 1 from l… |
| 13:30.18 | VitoCorleone | f81; but you wanna know what I can actually tell without any fuckin' hesitation? your mom's brasize |
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| 13:31.44 | fken | well... |
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| 13:37.30 | fken | spacebison: I thought the same thing but I haven't take the time to write it |
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| 13:43.28 | Iridos | !ops VitoCorleone needs less... language... to the point where askers aren't driven off |
| 13:43.29 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: iridos complains about: VitoCorleone needs less... language... to the point where askers aren't driven off |
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| 13:45.23 | ksuhku | yeah |
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| 13:49.50 | freeroute | hi everyone, I'm sorry if this has been asked here before, but I tried searching Google before asking here. My problem is that I just finished Debian 7 stable netinst and now restarted. However my USB keyboard doesn't work. Everytime I press a key the numlock LED turns on and off again. |
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| 13:50.28 | freeroute | I chose Debian netinst after trying Ubuntu 13.10 netinst first, but there I couldn't even do anything in the curses installer because of the same problem. |
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| 13:51.07 | freeroute | I have Asus C60M1-L as my mobo and it doesn't seem to have legacy BIOS mode (only UEFI it seems). Other people told me that it might be because of this. |
| 13:51.08 | ksk | mhm, so it might be your keyboard... you did try plugging it off and on again after linux booted? |
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| 13:51.54 | freeroute | ksk, so remove keyboard before restarting and then plugging it in again after it's restarted? I did try it with another kb but had the same issue. |
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| 13:53.05 | freeroute | the only thing I could find which was somewhat related to my issue was this - http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/72625/why-is-usb-not-working-in-linux-when-it-works-in-uefi-bios |
| 13:53.43 | freeroute | the worse is that I can't even access dmesg log :( |
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| 13:55.23 | freeroute | what's weirder is that it worked completely fine during the Debian netinst curses install process |
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| 13:56.46 | freeroute | so what could this possibly be? |
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| 13:57.57 | mani__ | pengunix: oh you're back :) i was finally able to install everything that i wanted on the live cd, but now i'm not able to make a snapshot; when i run refractasnapshot-gui, nothing happens; i probably need to change the /etc/*.conf file in order to change the directory |
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| 13:59.29 | freeroute | what's even stranger is that keyboard also works fine in GRUB |
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| 14:03.07 | fken | freeroute: if the problem comes from the distribution, then it's not strange that your keyboard works with grub |
| 14:03.33 | freeroute | fken: sorry, forgot to say that it's amd64 version (if that helps) |
| 14:04.15 | freeroute | so does this also mean that Debian 7 stable does not support UEFI? |
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| 14:04.50 | mani__ | i'm currently running a debian live cd on vmware player, do you know how can i make a new live cd from the system which is currently running? |
| 14:05.11 | fken | freeroute: maybe you should try to check which modules are loaded during netinstall. If there is a keyboard module or something like that. I must admit I don't know what's happenning and I am not a keyboard specialist. I know I got troubles with a keyboard using raspbian because of the power supply (not enough power for the keyboard to works) |
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| 14:05.55 | fken | but I would check if there is not a module missing in the kernel. |
| 14:06.07 | fken | (if i were you) |
| 14:06.27 | freeroute | a module for a USB keyboard? |
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| 14:07.22 | mjt | that's several modules. usbhid (keyboard handler), hcd (the usb bus driver) and the corresponding pci device |
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| 14:09.41 | fken | freeroute: take a look at google with the name of your keyboard and "kernel" "module" keywords. Maybe you'll discover there is something a bit odd with your keyboard |
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| 14:10.40 | fken | But then, I will not be able to help you anymore because I am not used with debian configuration (I am a gentoo user and then, when i need a module i compile it manually while debian use dpkg-reconfigure internal stuff |
| 14:11.03 | freeroute | fken: it's a Logitech K200 kb, and wouldn't it be really coincidental that both kb's are a bit odd? |
| 14:11.53 | freeroute | also, at what point can I load modules into the kernel? At Grub boot menu? |
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| 14:13.02 | fken | freeroute: sometimes I got surprises with debian : a missing network card module, and even something which made the computer crashed at kernel start (because something was missing too) |
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| 14:15.29 | fken | freeroute: I know some stuff can be made using grub commandline (but the only one i know are about display (nomodeset, etc) I don't know whether it's possible with a keyboard. Anyway, you could use livecd and try a chroot |
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| 14:20.00 | freeroute | fken: I guess I could try booting that Debian netinst again, going to a TTY and then invoking a command which lets me see the loaded modules? |
| 14:20.04 | freeroute | I think that command is lsmod |
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| 14:25.24 | mani__ | i'm running on a live cd, and the hard disk isn't mounted; how can i mount it? |
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| 14:26.19 | freeroute | mani__: what I usually do, I go to terminal, then fdisk -l to see which HDD's are recognized, then mkdir /mount/target and then just mount whichever partition to that newly created directory. |
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| 14:26.51 | mani__ | freeroute: fdisk command not found |
| 14:27.18 | freeroute | mani__: are you doing that as root? |
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| 14:27.36 | mani__ | freeroute: ah thanks :) |
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| 14:28.06 | mani__ | freeroute: i'm running the live cd on a virtual machine, and it looks like the virtual hard drive is not formatted: "Disk /dev/sda doesn't contain a valid partition table" |
| 14:28.33 | mani__ | so many layers |
| 14:28.45 | freeroute | yeah because it's a liveCD you are running in the virtual RAM |
| 14:28.58 | freeroute | it's only when you install that the virtual HDD gets written to |
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| 14:29.43 | mani__ | freeroute: so i need to format the virtual hdd myself, and then mount it? |
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| 14:30.09 | mtn | mani__: what are you trying to do? what is your goal? |
| 14:30.19 | firmware000 | can some one help me with my script? |
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| 14:30.29 | firmware000 | http://paste.debian.net/72322/ |
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| 14:31.24 | mani__ | mtn: my end goal is to create a live cd with some additional files/programs for personal use; so i downloaded a live cd, ran it on vmware player, installed the additional things i needed, and now i need to make an iso snapshot of the current live cd system in order to get the new live cd (using refractasnapshot) |
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| 14:31.48 | mani__ | mtn: however, i don't have enough ram to store the generated iso files, so i need hard disk space in order to store it |
| 14:32.12 | mtn | mani__: ok, so format the hard drive and you will be able to mount it. |
| 14:32.25 | mtn | mani__: the live disk hopefully has gparted on it |
| 14:32.29 | mani__ | cool i'll try |
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| 14:32.43 | mani__ | mtn: this is debian with kde |
| 14:32.58 | mtn | mani__: I am not familiar with it. |
| 14:33.19 | mani__ | it's ok i'll try with cfdisk |
| 14:33.37 | mani__ | logical partition? |
| 14:33.55 | mtn | mani__: no reason to is there? |
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| 14:34.59 | mani__ | mtn: i don't know the different with primary; "Write partition table to disk (this might destroy data)" can this destroy data from my "real" hard drive? |
| 14:36.18 | mtn | mani__: you can have up to 4 primary partitions, so no need for logical. working with your vm will not touch your real hard drive. |
| 14:36.30 | joj | firmware000: I am confused by your draft script. Is what you want to do: tail screen.txt for changes; ping localhost and in case it returns pong; do an nmap scan and append its output to screen.txt; ping 192.168.0.24 and in case it returns pong; do an nmap scan and also append it to screen.txt? I don't understand what the `exec` line in there should do? |
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| 14:38.05 | mjt | "format your hard drive" is so nostalgic... That's an operation which needed to be performed in early 1980s. |
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| 14:38.39 | mtn | mjt: and does need to be done today, as well |
| 14:38.40 | mjt | i don't think there are any drives left in the market which supports this operation |
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| 14:39.51 | mani__ | mtn: i formatted, created an ext3 file system, mounted the virtual hdd, but refractasnapshot-gui still does nothing when called |
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| 14:40.07 | mtn | mani__: don't know anything about that program, sorry |
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| 14:41.14 | joj | firmware000: are you still interested in getting that script fixed or not? if not, I'm going to focus on sth else ... |
| 14:42.02 | mani__ | mtn: np |
| 14:42.21 | firmware000 | joj sorry im back |
| 14:43.07 | joj | firmware000: ok. so, is my guess on what you want to do correct? |
| 14:43.07 | firmware000 | joj its suppost to put the output of nmap into a file that, at the begining of the script is beeing tail -f |
| 14:43.22 | milligan_ | I have debian on my htpc. It's connected to my onkyo receiver through hdmi. When I change the channel on the reciever (i.e debian "loses" the connectivity) or I power off the receiver etc, the resolution will change and be all wonky when I switch it back on. What is causing that? |
| 14:43.30 | joj | firmware000: then what role do the PING commands serve? |
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| 14:43.53 | firmware000 | so when you run the script it will start the tail of the file screen.txt, and ping is for a 2 minute pause |
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| 14:45.53 | firmware000 | joj ^ |
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| 14:47.09 | joj | firmware000: instead of ping, then, better use "sleep 120s" ... I'll paste the way I would write it all ok? Give me a minute ... |
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| 14:48.03 | firmware000 | joj yeah thanks, im still learning, in fact i think its a never ending prossess |
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| 14:53.47 | mani__ | mtn: looks like it's working without the gui |
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| 14:55.33 | xeon123 | Is there a time machine program for Debian similar to the Mac? |
| 14:55.40 | skyy111 | anyone tried ovirt on debian seccessfully? |
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| 14:57.18 | joj | firmware000: http://paste.debian.net/72327 . I added some comments |
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| 14:58.27 | xeon123 | Psi-Jack: can we consider doing a copy of my $HOME dir a snapshot? |
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| 14:58.52 | Psi-Jack | xeon123: Why are you asking me random questions in random channels? |
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| 14:59.13 | dvs | !confuse Psi-Jack |
| 14:59.14 | dpkg | No, where is your badger yesterday, Psi-Jack? Shirts of the Democracy of Micronesia with extra crabpaste. |
| 14:59.32 | Psi-Jack | heh |
| 15:00.24 | firmware000 | joj thanks im testing it now |
| 15:00.47 | joj | It's 2013-12-24! Merry Christmas [Dinners] altogether! |
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| 15:07.11 | firmware000 | joj , btw this script is to be used for the -program option on a screensaver, so it portscans the 2 interfaces when im not actively using it |
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| 15:08.20 | jaggz|2 | why would I be able to telnet localhost ftp, but ncftp localhost says "connected host has closed the connection"? |
| 15:08.40 | joj | firmware000: interesting application :-) and does it suit your need in that (or an edited) form? |
| 15:09.36 | firmware000 | joj Yes! its works great and if i ever forget how it works you added notes into it, but at the end of the old script i had exec /path/to/file, that was so it would run in kind of a loop is there a better way to do this? |
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| 15:12.59 | alex_mayorga | Are there country specific debian channels on IRC does anyone know? |
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| 15:13.35 | neo1691 | Hey guys, any one of you using gcc 4.8 from the testing repository? Is it stable? I want to use it for learning c++11 |
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| 15:14.01 | dvs | alex_mayorga: depends on the country |
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| 15:14.20 | alex_mayorga | dvs: Is there a Mexico one? |
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| 15:14.36 | dvs | !mx |
| 15:14.36 | dpkg | i guess mx is the Mail eXchanger resource record in DNS -- it tells an <MTA> where to deliver mail for a given domain. Merry Xmas, or Mexico. |
| 15:14.41 | alex_mayorga | dvs: Or a Spanish one for that matter? |
| 15:14.44 | dvs | oh, maybe not |
| 15:14.48 | dvs | !es |
| 15:14.49 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 15:14.52 | dvs | si |
| 15:15.05 | stmiller | neo1691 here are bug reports http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=gcc;dist=unstable |
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| 15:15.24 | joj | firmware000: so you want the script to loop as long as it is not killed? then within the curly braces, wrap the nmap calls into a while :; do <snippet with loop contents>; done (you don't need the last ; when putting `done` on a newline. Using `exec` IIRC would FORK another process, which would have a different PID so that if xscreensaver becomes unable to notice when the script exists (and probably would |
| 15:15.25 | joj | call |
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| 15:15.46 | joj | firmware000: another instance of the script again -> multiple instances of the script -> bad |
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| 15:16.00 | Ormu | ok, so I ran full upgrade today on my old computer, a new kernel (3.2.0-4-686-pae) was installed but it doesn't boot... the old kernel (2.6.32-5-686) still works. i'm using Squeeze |
| 15:16.10 | alex_mayorga | dvs: ¡Gracias! =) |
| 15:16.27 | Ormu | a blinking cursor appears, nothing else |
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| 15:17.11 | mordof | mani__: i've just been through the process of creating a custom live cd, if your'e interested in some pointers |
| 15:17.31 | mordof | mani__: not sure if you've got it sorted out yet. let me know |
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| 15:17.50 | firmware000 | joj , i have heard of something called a chron job before, could 2 scripts one that is ran as a chron job then the other script that will tail the output of the first? |
| 15:17.58 | LinoSP | Hi Someone knows how can I do this instructions without having internet https://wiki.debian.org/acx |
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| 15:18.58 | neo1691 | stmiller, Thanks!! Do you use it? |
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| 15:19.26 | mordof | LinoSP: i would imagine you could grab the files before hand and then call them as necessary during the installation steps |
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| 15:19.45 | joj | firmware000: "cronjob" means that a daemon runs a particular command with a particular frequency. As this command may write output into any file, it would be no problem to tail such a file. |
| 15:19.46 | firmware000 | joj also could running it as a job also fix the timeing? |
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| 15:19.53 | stmiller | I don't - but you are pretty safe with Debian testing. More stable than most other distros :) |
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| 15:20.55 | firmware000 | google, teach me about chronjobs!, thans joj, merry Christmas later everyone. |
| 15:21.13 | neo1691 | stmiller, Thanks |
| 15:21.43 | joj | firmware000: I don't see that a timing would need to get fixed except maybe inserting a single sleep 120s AFTER all nmap calls so that you don't scan continously. So what cron would do is replacing both the while loop and the sleep command. |
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| 15:21.54 | joj | firmware000: and you're welcome. |
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| 15:23.24 | pengunix_ | mani__: hi! |
| 15:23.27 | pengunix_ | mani__: you were offline |
| 15:23.58 | pengunix_ | mani__: are you online again? |
| 15:24.04 | pengunix_ | mani__: were you able to format the virtual disk |
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| 15:24.09 | pengunix_ | mani__: have you written the iso onto it? |
| 15:24.13 | pengunix_ | *onto |
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| 15:29.21 | TheWarden | Hi |
| 15:29.24 | Ormu | so I did full upgrade today on my old computer, a new kernel (3.2.0-4-686-pae) was installed but it doesn't boot... the old kernel (2.6.32-5-686) still works. i'm using Squeeze |
| 15:29.41 | Ormu | blinking cursor appears, nothing else |
| 15:30.01 | Ormu | CPU is AMD K7 Athlon, 500MHz, motherboard is some Compaq |
| 15:30.34 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 15:30.41 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.12-trunk-686-pae (3.12.3-1~exp1); sid: 3.12-1-686-pae (3.12.6-1); jessie: 3.11-2-686-pae (3.11.10-1); wheezy-backports: 3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.11.8-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.51-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.51-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
| 15:30.41 | pengunix_ | Ormu: The page is not debian related but still applies: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Boot_Debugging |
| 15:31.34 | jhutchins | I have a script in /etc/cron.daily that runs fine from the command line, but does not run during nightly maintenance. How can I troubleshoot this? |
| 15:32.43 | Ormu | pengunix_: ok, i'll try that |
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| 15:35.10 | olti | jhutchins: check your cron log, most probably your cron entry is wrong |
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| 15:40.02 | rob` | i spent two days once wondering why a cron job wasn't working before realizing I switched hour and minute |
| 15:40.08 | rob` | not the most intuitive config file |
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| 15:41.47 | jelly-home | rob`: its syntax checker is almost hopeless and will happily accept nonsense, or ignore last lines without \n |
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| 15:42.42 | firmware000 | help with crontab? anyone? |
| 15:43.06 | firmware000 | i read online and the man page seems complicated |
| 15:43.32 | dvs | firmware000: Ask your specific question |
| 15:43.35 | jelly-home | firmware000: sure, but ask the actual question please |
| 15:43.37 | TheWarden | I have gcc 4 installed on Debian but I need gcc 3.2.3 as I'm wanting ot run Call of Duty server yet when I run it it states "./coduo_lnxded: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| 15:43.55 | TheWarden | how can I have both installed without affect the other in regards to gcc? |
| 15:44.05 | jelly-home | TheWarden: that's not gcc, that's old libstdc++ |
| 15:44.20 | firmware000 | i want /home/user/script.sh to run every 3 minutes |
| 15:44.39 | TheWarden | jelly-home: oh okay, just going by what the docs say. I'm not familiar with libstdc++. |
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| 15:44.44 | dvs | firmware000: */3 * * * * /home/user/script.sh |
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| 15:44.45 | dvs | here |
| 15:45.04 | jelly-home | TheWarden: search for libstdc++5 package on either snapshot.debian.org or archive.debian.org |
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| 15:45.32 | firmware000 | dvs, where to put that at? |
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| 15:45.54 | jelly-home | firmware000: that's the syntax for per-user crontab format, run "crontab -e" as that user and it opens an editor |
| 15:46.05 | dvs | firmware000: Where you run "crontab -e", you'll be put into an editor |
| 15:46.08 | fken | in fact after removal of /etc/shutdown.allow, my normal user is still able to reboot the system. I don't understand how it works. My user doesn't belong to sudoers so I am completely lost |
| 15:46.19 | firmware000 | ahh i see ok |
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| 15:46.57 | TheWarden | jelly-home: well I just installed libstdc++5 via apt-get install libstdc++5 |
| 15:47.06 | TheWarden | jelly-home: however, that didn't fix the problem. |
| 15:47.21 | TheWarden | jelly-home: I still have ./coduo_lnxded: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 15:47.27 | jelly-home | TheWarden: which debian release are you using and which arcitecture? |
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| 15:47.50 | TheWarden | jelly-home: presently on Squeeze... working on upgrade soon but can't at the moment. |
| 15:48.24 | jelly-home | TheWarden: also, what does "file ./coduo_lnxded" say? if it's a 32bit binary and your system is 64bit, things get complicated |
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| 15:49.49 | ChrisH | My .xessions-errors fills up with messages like these: http://paste.debian.net/72332/ My google-search was not helpfull. I am running 7.3 with 3.11-0.bpo.2-486 as 3.10 was the first kernel with wheezy beeing able to handle my dual-screen setup as Debian 6 was before. Any hints where to start? |
| 15:50.42 | ChrisH | And Xorg eats up lots of CPU and slows down everything. This is the major issue |
| 15:50.49 | jhutchins | olti: What do you mean the entry is wrong? This is a script in /etc/cron.daily. |
| 15:51.40 | jhutchins | There is no "cron log" anyway. |
| 15:52.31 | jhutchins | Ok, here's the problem: run-parts: failed to exec /etc/cron.daily/backup: Exec format error |
| 15:52.48 | jhutchins | What does that mean? The job runs fine manually. |
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| 15:53.24 | jelly-home | ChrisH: the sqlite lines come from some application. wild ass guess: amarok running? |
| 15:53.50 | TheWarden | jelly-home: well it's quite old so I would imagine it's 32-bit |
| 15:54.01 | jhutchins | Got it. No ! after #. |
| 15:54.08 | jelly-home | TheWarden: why imagine when you can dpkg --print-architecture |
| 15:54.13 | TheWarden | jelly-home: when I run it the message of this is returned, "./coduo_lnxded: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
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| 15:54.26 | ChrisH | jelly-home: no. currently gimp, icedove and iceweasel to pastebin |
| 15:54.28 | jelly-home | TheWarden: when you run "file ./coduo_lnxded"? |
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| 15:54.38 | TheWarden | jelly-home: oh I thought you mean call of duty |
| 15:54.52 | TheWarden | jelly-home: it's a 64-bit Squeeze install. |
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| 15:54.57 | jelly-home | TheWarden: that'd be repeating yourself. |
| 15:55.30 | TheWarden | jelly-home: ./coduo_lnxded: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.0.0, stripped |
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| 15:56.02 | jelly-home | TheWarden: you will have to put a 32bit libstdc++5 in place somehow, then |
| 15:57.55 | jelly-home | judd: file lib32/libstdc++.so.5 --arch amd64 --release squeeze |
| 15:57.58 | judd | Search for lib32/libstdc++.so.5 in squeeze/amd64: ia32-libs: usr/lib32/libstdc++.so.5 |
| 15:58.06 | jelly-home | TheWarden: ah, install ia32-libs |
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| 15:59.40 | TheWarden | jelly-home: okay I'll install that package. thanks. I'll give that a try. |
| 16:00.37 | Ormu | ok, I added the debug parameter to the kernel but it apparently hangs before it can give any useful info... "Decompressing Linux... Parsing ELF... done." then "Booting the kernel.", then just a blinking cursor and nothing else |
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| 16:01.32 | Ormu | that happens with kernel 3.2.0-4-686-pae... the old 2.6.something still works |
| 16:01.38 | jelly-home | TheWarden: use "ldd ./coduo_lnxded" to see if there's some other library missing afterwards |
| 16:01.45 | TheWarden | jelly-home: that fixed it. Thanks! |
| 16:01.56 | TheWarden | jelly-home: oh really, cool. Thanks. |
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| 16:03.03 | Ormu | actually the same problem occurs when trying to boot VectorLinux install disc |
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| 16:07.13 | jelly-home | ChrisH: googles suggests chromium or chrome as the source of the sqlite line |
| 16:07.29 | jelly-home | ChrisH: check your process list for any of the two? |
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| 16:09.32 | ChrisH | jelly-home: ACK, found half a ton of chromium processes still alive. killed them and these sqlite lines are gone. |
| 16:09.45 | jelly-home | giyf! |
| 16:09.46 | ChrisH | But still the xorg eats CPU is still there |
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| 16:10.19 | jelly-home | yeah, but at least you know the log lines are not connected |
| 16:10.50 | jelly-home | ChrisH: does this happen after restarting X (logging off and back on), right away? |
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| 16:11.43 | joelteon | is it possible to install libgmp3c2 on wheezy? |
| 16:11.52 | joelteon | I see it on squeeze and sid |
| 16:12.12 | ChrisH | I just bootet a few hours ago. Normally I simply pit the laptop into pm-hibernate. Its independent from booting and,or logging off/on. It seems more connected to starting,running some applications. |
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| 16:23.11 | ChrisH | I just open the previous file in gimp and xorg comesup like this in top: 2509 root 20 0 105m 54m 39m R 94,5 2,7 41:37.71 Xorg |
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| 16:34.01 | freeroute | I tried installing Ubuntu 13.10 x64 netinst image from a USB stick on a Asus C60M1-L with 16GB RAM and 160GB HDD. But when I chose to install it using ncurses interface the kb stopped working. All I had was the numlock LED flash on and then off everytime I pressed a key. Afterwards I tried installing Debian 7 stable amd64 netinst. The ncurses installation procedure went very well, however when I rebooted I got the same issue. |
| 16:34.21 | freeroute | Now my line of thinking is this: The Debian netinst environment has some kernel modules loaded which supported my USB kb. The resulting Debian installation does not. So now I want to load up the Debian netinst environment to see which modules are loaded and then somehow insert them at the Grub menu (or any other way). |
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| 16:35.49 | freeroute | so someone suggested that I just run dpkg -i firmware-linux-nonfree.deb during the install process, but doesn't that mean I have to re-install the whole thing again? Also, if not... where should I run that dpkg command? |
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| 16:47.05 | petn-randall | freeroute: Most USB keyboards I used worked out of the box. |
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| 16:47.35 | petn-randall | freeroute: Do you have somehow access to the machine? A different keyboard, or a machine that you can use to ssh into the problematic machine? |
| 16:47.38 | freeroute | petn-randall: yes, that was my previous experience as well. |
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| 16:47.49 | freeroute | petn-randall: I tried 2 kb's |
| 16:48.14 | freeroute | and I dearly want to set up SSH on it, but for that I do have to have some input to configure SSH |
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| 16:48.35 | ChrisH | jelly-home: switched to another system to finish my work... done for today. |
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| 16:48.51 | Okee | Has anyone used keepassx on here? I had a lot of trouble with it when using linuxmint-deb edition. So I saved my windows database in an earlier version, so that it could be imported into wine with linuxmint-deb |
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| 16:49.23 | Okee | Wine ended up creating a system loop in linuxmint-deb, so I am being a little bit more cautioius in using it. |
| 16:50.17 | petn-randall | freeroute: Ok, I'd do the following: Boot up Debian 7, and plug in the keyboard in and out. Then reboot into a live image were the keyboard works. Check /var/log/kern.log for errors on the root filesystem of Debian 7. |
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| 16:50.42 | petn-randall | !mint |
| 16:50.42 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 16:50.54 | petn-randall | Okee: ^^^^ Mint is not supported here. |
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| 16:51.45 | mjt | why people choose mint over debian? |
| 16:52.05 | freeroute | petn-randall: all right, just a sec |
| 16:52.08 | petn-randall | mjt: Some people even install Windows Vista voluntarily ... |
| 16:52.19 | mjt | that's a different question |
| 16:52.23 | petn-randall | ;) |
| 16:53.31 | petn-randall | mjt: Some people just love new shit, and install JustinBieberOS, which the only developer drops after loosing interest 3 months later. |
| 16:53.45 | petn-randall | mjt: http://biebian.sourceforge.net/ |
| 16:55.22 | mjt | and yet again it is a entirely different question |
| 16:56.12 | mtn | mjt: because it is "easier" and "prettier" |
| 16:56.50 | freeroute | petn-randall: what's interesting is that when the kb is already plugged in during boot, it shows the flashing numlock behavior. Yet once it boots without the kb plugged in, once it finishes booting and only then I plug the kb in, it doesn't even flash the numlock LED. Just nothing happens. |
| 16:57.01 | freeroute | anyway, I'm going to try the livedistro now |
| 16:57.32 | babilen | Okee: Been using it without problems (keepass2, kpcli that is) |
| 16:57.40 | petn-randall | freeroute: I'm guessing the BIOS recognizes your keyboard, but for some reason your OS doesn't. |
| 16:58.02 | petn-randall | freeroute: Could be that the "legacy keyboard" option in your BIOS is buggy. |
| 16:58.04 | Okee | petn-randall> I don't think you understood my question: I am asking about peoples experiences using KeePassX and Debian and not KeePassX linuxmint-deb. I only referred to the problems I experienced in linuxmint-deb, since they are similar. |
| 16:58.29 | Okee | Babilen> You indicated Keepass2, but Keepass2 is for windows, and I am running Debian. Have you used KeePassX on linux Debian? |
| 16:58.46 | babilen | Okee: I am referring to keepass2 and kpcli |
| 16:58.50 | babilen | judd: v keepass2 |
| 16:58.51 | judd | Package: keepass2 on i386 -- wheezy: 2.19+dfsg-2; jessie: 2.24+dfsg-1; sid: 2.24+dfsg-1 |
| 16:58.58 | babilen | Okee: ^^^ |
| 16:59.04 | petn-randall | ^^ got that installed to, works without a hitch here. |
| 16:59.06 | Okee | kpcli? What is that? |
| 16:59.15 | babilen | judd: i kpcli |
| 16:59.16 | judd | No package named 'kpcli' was found in wheezy/i386. |
| 16:59.23 | babilen | judd: i kpcli --release sid |
| 16:59.24 | judd | Package kpcli (utils, optional) in sid/i386: command line interface to KeePassX password manager databases. Version: 2.3-1; Size: 40.8k; Installed: 151k; Homepage: http://sourceforge.net/projects/kpcli/ |
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| 16:59.48 | Okee | I have used KeePass2 in Windows without any problem at all, but I did encounter problems using the linux version (keepassX). My research suggest other users have posted problems on the net about this as well. |
| 16:59.52 | pupil | hello , good night |
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| 17:00.07 | babilen | Okee: I am *not* talking about keepassx and haven't used it. |
| 17:00.27 | Okee | Babilen> Keepass2 doesn't work in linux, unless you run it with wine. |
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| 17:01.26 | Okee | Incidentally I was able to run KeePass2 with wine, but my concern is the system loop wine created. After my last experience I am leaning towards using virtualization to run KeePassX. |
| 17:01.45 | jordanm | i have used keepassX for about 4 years and I have yet to encounter any bugs |
| 17:01.51 | babilen | Okee: How so? I can run it just fine. It does use mono though, but I am not having any wine-* packages installed. |
| 17:01.56 | Okee | KeePassX and wine worked -- even with the system loop. |
| 17:02.16 | Okee | Babilen> You are using KeePass2 in Linux Deb? |
| 17:02.33 | babilen | Okee: I typically use kpcli, but yes. I used it. |
| 17:03.06 | Okee | Babilen> I am not familiar with kpcli. What is it? |
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| 17:04.19 | freeroute | petn-randall: I tested that just now, I set the legacy mode on 'auto' but it still showed the same behavior :( |
| 17:04.31 | freeroute | ok let's see what kern.log is saying |
| 17:04.36 | petn-randall | freeroute: ok |
| 17:04.50 | babilen | Okee: You can check it's website, but both keepassx and keepass2 should work without problems and many people do use it. I migrated to a 2.* db of keepass which is why I used keepass2 even though I liked keepassx more and two people in this channel already mentioned that they use keepass{x,2} respectively |
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| 17:05.40 | Okee | ok. Thanks. |
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| 17:06.39 | babilen | *its |
| 17:06.45 | freeroute | petn-randall: damnit I forgot I made an encrypted LVM volume. Any chance I can mount it if I know the passphrase? |
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| 17:07.28 | petn-randall | Okee: Just for completeness: keepass2 and keepassx run natively under Debian, no wine needed. |
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| 17:08.08 | cohn | seeing a weird problem - on my console, my boot up freezes at "Starting MTA" but I can log in via SSH. Is that a tty setting somewhere? |
| 17:08.19 | Okee | petn> Ok, I didn't know that. I thought only KeePassX was for linux. |
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| 17:08.29 | petn-randall | freeroute: 'cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/<yourencrypteddevice> <name>', then you should be able to do 'mount /dev/mapper/<name> /mnt/tmp'. |
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| 17:09.19 | petn-randall | cohn: Sounds like your X gets started after that and crashes your display settings. |
| 17:09.28 | ghost75 | a shrink of mdraid with ext3 is done with livecd and import of md device? |
| 17:09.45 | ghost75 | (its root partition) |
| 17:10.44 | boodie | Hi: I have about 50 updates pending in aptitude, but not enoughspace on the HD. Options are: use an external drive, or clean the /var directory of junk ... can anybody advise? |
| 17:11.53 | petn-randall | boodie: You could try 'apt-get clean' and then install them, one by one. But that's only a short-term fix to a more general problem. |
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| 17:13.12 | petn-randall | boodie: Can you paste the output of 'mount' and 'df -h' to http://paste.debian.net? We could then give you tips how to fix your partitioning. |
| 17:13.38 | Dirkos | How can i log the memory usage of a process every second? |
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| 17:14.07 | LtL | boodie: thoroughly peruse chapter 4.4.3 here, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#sufficient-space |
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| 17:14.25 | Hassen | ah...seems like the ATI's proprietary driver required to get the GNOME3 full graphical performances |
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| 17:15.24 | boodie | Output of mount |
| 17:15.28 | boodie | http://paste.debian.net/72348/ |
| 17:15.59 | nabblet | hi, i have an isdn connection and use an external USB modem to access internet (with windows OS) - what packages do i need for debian? |
| 17:16.27 | boodie | output of 'df -h' http://paste.debian.net/72349/ |
| 17:16.36 | petn-randall | Dirkos: 'ps auxw|grep <program>', you can the prepend 'watch -n 1' infront of it to output it every second. |
| 17:16.48 | Dirkos | petn-randall: thnx |
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| 17:20.12 | petn-randall | boodie: For the future, an easy way to work around a problem like that is to use LVM. What is /dev/sda7 on your machine? |
| 17:20.12 | cohn | petn-randall: this is on boot, not with X |
| 17:20.40 | petn-randall | cohn: So this is a server, and after that line you have no further output, but you can log in via ssh? |
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| 17:21.13 | ghost75 | mdadm --zero-superblock can also delete one mdraid out of 2 on the same disk? |
| 17:21.33 | petn-randall | cohn: Check /var/log/boot.log to check what gets started after that, if it's empty you need to install bootlogd. |
| 17:21.35 | boodie | Strange, I don't seem to have one /dev/sda7 |
| 17:21.39 | cohn | petn-randall: correct |
| 17:21.45 | petn-randall | boodie: fdisk -l /dev/sda |
| 17:21.46 | cohn | yea, lemme install that |
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| 17:21.50 | freeroute | petn-randall: this is SO strange, both Mint 15 and latest Lubuntu did not boot properly, this was the bootlog of Mint at one time - http://imgur.com/vhymuUn |
| 17:21.58 | cohn | i upgraded from squeeze to wheezy, and squeeze was fine |
| 17:22.06 | freeroute | now I've booted up TAILS and it seems to be working now |
| 17:22.16 | freeroute | there's got to be some regression in the kernel |
| 17:22.24 | petn-randall | freeroute: Looks like your boot images are broken. How did you create them? |
| 17:22.30 | freeroute | using YUMI |
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| 17:23.00 | petn-randall | !yumi |
| 17:23.00 | freeroute | everything just boots fine using YUMI on other machines (last time I checked) |
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| 17:23.22 | freeroute | petn-randall: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ |
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| 17:24.24 | petn-randall | freeroute: I'd bet a pony that it breaks the ISO. Use a simple 'cp debian.iso /dev/sdb' to create the boot image. Make sure /dev/sdb IS your USB drive. It'll wipe its contents. |
| 17:24.41 | boodie | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.58 | jugglinmike | I'm having trouble setting up a wireless connection on a thinkpad t431s. `lshw -C network` lists the wireless devices as "UNCLAIMED". I've followed the instructions here: https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi (installed the `firmware-iwlwifi` package from apt, and run `modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi`), but still nothing. Anyone have any ideas? |
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| 17:25.33 | petn-randall | jugglinmike: You might be missing firmware. Check the firmware-* packages your package manager. |
| 17:25.54 | pupil | hello, i have problem with dual screen in kernel 3.11 |
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| 17:26.05 | jugglinmike | petn-randall: as in, `apt-cache search firmware-`? |
| 17:26.26 | petn-randall | boodie: You could remove swap to enlarge your /var, but you'll run into other problems later. Do you have a reinstall planned any time soon? |
| 17:26.33 | LtL | boodie: why don't you mount --bind your external drive for the updates. it works |
| 17:26.34 | petn-randall | jugglinmike: for example |
| 17:26.44 | cohn | hmm |
| 17:26.51 | pupil | when i attach second mintor to my laptop, the screen in the laptop suddenly turn off, but the second screen is still on and displaying fine |
| 17:27.23 | jugglinmike | petn-randall: thanks--I see firmware-iwlwifi - Binary firmware for Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 and 802.11n cards` listed there. |
| 17:28.23 | boodie | Well, I have done other times the symlink to that drive, only it happens once in a blue moon, so I always forget how to do it |
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| 17:29.07 | hagbard_celine | Hi there, I have installed kolab 3.1 by this guid http://docs.kolab.org/installation-guide/debian.html everything works fine expected of roundcube contacts and roundcube calendar. I still get this message Call to undefined function new_Contact() or Call to undefined function new_Event() in kolabformat.php the php kolabformat.so extension is loaded, but seems something is not working right. phpinfo shows inifiles are loaded 30-kolabfor |
| 17:29.07 | hagbard_celine | and 31-kolab.ini, but when i look in the kolabformat details section i always see the headline kolabformat same for kolabcalendaring, kolabobject, kolabshared. no details displayed... hopefuly someone has a hint for me. thx |
| 17:29.45 | cohn | petn-randall: should i be worried that my default run level is 2? |
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| 17:30.48 | boodie | LtL: how do you mount --bind a USB drive? |
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| 17:31.23 | petn-randall | cohn: Uhm, why? |
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| 17:32.13 | LtL | boodie: chapter 4.4.3 scroll down a bit and it explains the procedure. the link i gave you. its quite simple. |
| 17:32.17 | petn-randall | cohn: It won't give you cancer, if that's what you mean ;). It's the default in Debian. |
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| 17:32.25 | cohn | petn-randall: just thinking out loud |
| 17:32.31 | cohn | brb |
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| 17:39.34 | Tasab | hello all , what is the command to add new hardware |
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| 17:40.30 | geggam | !summon beancounter |
| 17:40.31 | dpkg | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing beancounter's coordinates |
| 17:41.04 | geggam | interesting... didnt know that existed |
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| 17:41.35 | jugglinmike | petn-randall: This seems like it could be related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1180256 . Any chance a fix made it to Ubuntu but not Debian? |
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| 17:42.21 | petn-randall | jugglinmike: Did installing the firmware and rebooting fix your problem? |
| 17:43.47 | wols_ | Tasab: there is no command per se. what new hardware is it that you want to use? |
| 17:44.03 | jugglinmike | petn-randall: I had run `sudo apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi` and rebooted prior to asking. Not sure what to do next |
| 17:45.07 | wols_ | jugglinmike: iwconfig |
| 17:45.37 | wols_ | jugglinmike: you need to reboot _after_ running the apt-get command |
| 17:46.10 | jugglinmike | wols_: Yes, that is what I did |
| 17:46.22 | jugglinmike | `iwconfig` lists only lo and eth0 |
| 17:46.48 | wols_ | centrino 6235 is a haswell era wlan chip? |
| 17:46.54 | freeroute | petn-randall: I successfully decrypted using cryptsetup, but mounting it resulted in an error - mount: unknown filesystem type "LVM2_member" |
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| 17:47.01 | jugglinmike | `lshw -C network` still lists the wireless card as "unclaimed" |
| 17:47.02 | wols_ | if so, you probably need a backports kernel |
| 17:47.36 | jugglinmike | ah wols_, that sounds familiar from the searching I've been doing. |
| 17:48.13 | petn-randall | freeroute: Ah, so you have LVM. Run 'avchange -ay', then you can see which LVs you have with 'lvs'. |
| 17:48.40 | wols_ | according to https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi debian wheezy supports 6235 |
| 17:49.08 | wols_ | jugglinmike: modprobe iwlwifi and then run dmesg to check if there are any error message |
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| 17:49.45 | jugglinmike | wols_: roger that. Should I grep the dmesg output? |
| 17:50.01 | wols_ | just run dmesg. the stuff will be in the last few lines |
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| 17:51.45 | freeroute | petn-randall: well that sucks, TAILS doesn't seem to have avchange and installing things on TAILS is.... impossible at best :p |
| 17:51.54 | jugglinmike | wols_: http://paste.debian.net/72355/ |
| 17:52.14 | petn-randall | freeroute: :(. I think Debian has a live image. |
| 17:52.29 | freeroute | I've hooked it up on network and did apt-cache search avchange but no results so far, so I'm going to indeed run a live image |
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| 17:52.48 | freeroute | of a decent distro lol |
| 17:53.13 | petn-randall | freeroute: It's in the package lvm2 |
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| 17:53.26 | petn-randall | freeroute: Woops, it's vgchange, sorry. |
| 17:53.32 | freeroute | lol :D |
| 17:53.49 | freeroute | oh I turned it off anyways, time for debian live! |
| 17:54.01 | freeroute | you reckon I can dd the image to a 4gb drive? |
| 17:54.16 | freeroute | *USB stick |
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| 17:55.17 | jugglinmike | wols_: It looks good...? I don't know what to expect, exactly, but nothing indicates "error" |
| 17:55.30 | wols_ | jugglinmike: it looks as it should yes. iwconfig should show you something now |
| 17:55.45 | ghost75 | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.3.0-i386-CD-1.iso <- can be also used as live cd? |
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| 17:55.56 | wols_ | and you can now configure it: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 17:56.05 | wols_ | ghost75: no. you need a extra live cd |
| 17:56.12 | wols_ | !live |
| 17:56.12 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 17:56.14 | ghost75 | gna |
| 17:56.41 | freeroute | petn-randall: debian-live-7.2-amd64-standard.iso - iz good? |
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| 17:57.04 | wols_ | yes |
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| 17:57.23 | ghost75 | has x server? |
| 17:57.37 | jugglinmike | wols_: still nothing http://paste.debian.net/72356/ |
| 17:58.21 | wols_ | jugglinmike: in lspci the wlan shows? |
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| 17:58.31 | wols_ | ghost75: yes it is a graphice live cd with X |
| 17:58.35 | wols_ | *graphical |
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| 17:59.49 | ghost75 | rescue comes also with X ? |
| 17:59.51 | jugglinmike | wols_: yessir http://paste.debian.net/72357/ |
| 17:59.52 | Okee | petn> Have you been able to import your KeePass2 databse from windows? |
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| 18:01.00 | wols_ | jugglinmike: rmmod iwlwifi and modprobe it again? |
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| 18:02.59 | jugglinmike | wols_: still no-go. Pardon my permissions typos http://paste.debian.net/72358/ |
| 18:03.01 | petn-randall | freeroute: Yes, dd is a way, but it's better with cp, since it chooses the block size and cache automatically. |
| 18:03.18 | jhutchins | petn-randall: dd does too. |
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| 18:04.53 | wols_ | jugglinmike: use a 3.10 kernel from backports, including firmware-iwlwifi (but it's a hail mary unfortunately) |
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| 18:06.17 | jugglinmike | wols_: That's outside my experience. Could you point me to a resource for doing that? Or is it a simple command..? |
| 18:06.35 | wols_ | !backports |
| 18:06.36 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
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| 18:08.16 | wols_ | jugglinmike: what is the lspci -nn output for your wlan chip? what thinkpad is this? |
| 18:09.15 | jugglinmike | wols_: http://paste.debian.net/72359/ this is a t431s |
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| 18:10.59 | boodie | Looks like it worked! Many thanks! Cheers |
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| 18:12.16 | Zeranoe | I'm looking for a way to connect to my Debian VM server, but I travel to different WIFi areas, so the static ip cannot remain the same. Is there a way to setup some sort of way to connect using the computer name? (debian-server in this case) |
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| 18:13.47 | frostschutz | Zeranoe, if you have any single box with a public static ip, you could openvpn |
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| 18:14.20 | loeken | Zeranoe, or simply setup a dyndns |
| 18:14.35 | frostschutz | have to consider firewall issues in wifi as well |
| 18:14.59 | Zeranoe | frostschutz: It is all local networking, not public. The VM is running on the same machine that I'm doing the work on. |
| 18:15.06 | frostschutz | just knowing the public ip of a wifi is not necessarily sufficient to get ssh to the box |
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| 18:18.16 | freeroute | thanks wifi |
| 18:18.24 | freeroute | sorry, what did I miss? |
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| 18:20.12 | afidegnum | hi, I have files in the main www directory I can't acess even though I chmod to 777 that file |
| 18:20.16 | afidegnum | what can be the caue and what else can be done? |
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| 18:21.41 | jugglinmike | wols_: I installed `firmware-iwlwifi` from Wheezy backports, restarted, and still nothing. Any idea what I should try next? |
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| 18:28.25 | LtL | afidegnum: chmod'd 777 files in your docroot directory is a extremely bad idea. you are looking for the 'chown' command. btw- changing owner/group is a bad idea also for that directory. become root or talk to the server admin. |
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| 18:29.48 | jugglinmike | Anybody running Debian on a Thinkpad? Specifically, a t430 / t430s? I'm having trouble setting up wireless on mine |
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| 18:33.17 | freeroute | petn-randall: does the standard Debian by any chance have any DE? |
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| 18:35.03 | petern_ | If you install it, it does. |
| 18:35.21 | petern_ | Debian doesn't force anything on you, nor do you have to go outside of Debian to get (most) things. |
| 18:35.32 | LtL | afidegnum: if you have root priveleges try, adduser user www-data .. that should allow that user to write to that dir. added, those files should be 644 unless there is a particular reason not to. |
| 18:35.44 | afidegnum | ok, thanks |
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| 18:35.51 | linuxthefish | hi, why is chconfig broken? |
| 18:36.01 | linuxthefish | chkconfig* |
| 18:36.13 | LtL | afidegnum: to clarify, user = $USER or your username |
| 18:36.35 | linuxthefish | chkconfig --list | grep $(runlevel | awk '{ print $2}'):on |
| 18:37.25 | freeroute | petern_: right I was just wondering if it shipped with a DE per default |
| 18:37.50 | afidegnum | ok |
| 18:38.38 | linuxthefish | gt |
| 18:39.00 | petern_ | freeroute, several, but none installed unless you ask for it |
| 18:39.13 | linuxthefish | help, reboot on debian is broken |
| 18:39.16 | linuxthefish | bugged |
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| 18:40.50 | Okee | Would someone know of a website that has a graphical display of many different windows managers? I was informed such a critter exists, but I don't recall the URL. |
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| 18:41.20 | linuxthefish | help, i can't reboot again! |
| 18:41.24 | phix | Okee: What are you after? |
| 18:41.33 | phix | linuxthefish: turn it off then on again |
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| 18:41.51 | gsdhgcvertgrjh | WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING |
| 18:41.52 | gsdhgcvertgrjh | WARNING WARNING WARNING, WARNING WARNING |
| 18:41.52 | gsdhgcvertgrjh | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.52 | gsdhgcvertgrjh | YOU MAY BE WATCHED |
| 18:41.52 | gsdhgcvertgrjh | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:42.20 | ompaul | !ops please ban gsdhgcvertgrjh staff please kill it |
| 18:42.20 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: ompaul complains about: please ban gsdhgcvertgrjh staff please kill it |
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| 18:43.19 | LtL | Okee: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments also includes homepages of various DE's for visual comparisons. |
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| 18:43.33 | ompaul | merci |
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| 18:44.17 | linuxthefish | please help, only 'reboot -f' works, and then all the deamons won't restart... |
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| 18:44.25 | freeroute | petn-randall: it can't find vgchange anywhere :( |
| 18:44.26 | freeroute | both aptitude show vgchange and aptitude search vgchange result in packages not found |
| 18:44.42 | ompaul | linuxthefish: shutdown -h now try that - with a manual restart |
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| 18:45.33 | linuxthefish | ompaul: it's a VPS, even when i shutdown and start in the control panel nothing happens :/ |
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| 18:45.39 | Okee | phix> I am looking for a desktop that allows icons at the bottom instead of the top, and I would like to compare gnome2 with gnome3. There are things I like and don't like with gnome 3. I find gnome3 to be a little faster and less buggier than Cinnamon, but it doesn't give you the option of having icons at the bottom instead of the top. |
| 18:45.53 | mjt | abrotman: already -q'ed by chanserv |
| 18:46.11 | mjt | (or +q'ed) |
| 18:46.23 | Gorwell | Hello, I have a problem. Whenever I connect my laptop with the HDMI output, disconnect it, and connect it again, I loose the sound output. |
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| 18:46.33 | Gorwell | What could cause it? |
| 18:46.59 | wols_ | jugglinmike: under any other OS, the wlan works normally? |
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| 18:47.30 | wols_ | jugglinmike: my T400 has a switch to turn wlan off, maybe that is it? is the wlan light on on the case? |
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| 18:47.47 | ompaul | linuxthefish: so then as a VPS there is some form of support, if you have installed a standard debian kernel on a VPS you may have broken it |
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| 18:48.08 | Absolute0 | How do you add a blank option to a wtfrom selectfield such that if the user had not select it, it won't coerce the value to 'None'? |
| 18:48.49 | ompaul | wonders why people don't grok that VPS boxes have reasons they are VPSs with strange privately built kernels |
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| 18:50.08 | freeroute | petern_: do you know where I can find the package which contains vgchange ? |
| 18:50.09 | jugglinmike | wols_: I'm dual-booting with Windows 8, and it works correctly there |
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| 18:50.38 | phix | Okee: ok, you can put icons whereever you like |
| 18:50.42 | phix | top or bottom |
| 18:50.45 | jugglinmike | wols_: I'm trying to figure out which release of Debian I am on. If I'm on "stable", I might try moving to "testing" |
| 18:50.50 | phix | or diagonal |
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| 18:52.07 | jugglinmike | wols_: I think I should have said "which distribution of Debian I am on" |
| 18:52.17 | jugglinmike | don't really know the correct terminology |
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| 18:53.19 | freeroute | jugglinmike: try cat /proc/version |
| 18:53.34 | petern_ | freeroute, http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=vgchange&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
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| 18:54.21 | Okee | phix> How so? By default I don't see anything on my desktop. Everything is in a drop down menu from the top. I would like a menu from the bottom on the bottom, and desktop. |
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| 18:54.47 | freeroute | petern_: thanks, but do you happen to know why it isn't showing up in aptitude's search results? |
| 18:54.57 | jugglinmike | thanks freeroute. I don't know how to interpret that, though: `Linux version 3.2.0-4-amd64 (debian-kernel@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Debian 4.6.3-14) ) #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1` |
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| 18:55.36 | freeroute | jugglinmike: and if you do this? - cat /etc/lsb-release |
| 18:55.47 | linuxthefish | 18:46 < ompaul> linuxthefish: so then as a VPS there is some form of support, if you have installed a standard debian kernel on a VPS you may have broken it |
| 18:55.47 | linuxthefish | it's possible to break? :( |
| 18:56.05 | jugglinmike | freeroute: I don't have that file |
| 18:56.07 | abrotman | mjt: yes, but continuqing to join flood, yay |
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| 18:58.25 | freeroute | jugglinmike: then it seems there's no easy way to tell on what kind of Debian you are :S |
| 18:58.28 | freeroute | seems weird actually |
| 18:58.47 | Okee | phix> Doesn't icons on the desktop require an extension to be added, to the gnome3 desktop? |
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| 19:04.00 | wols_ | jugglinmike: cat /etc/debian_version but the backports kernel would bring you to testing wrt the kernel |
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| 19:05.14 | Okee | How do you put icons on the desktop in debian wheazy? My online research indicates I need to install an extension. Is that correct? Or can it be done with current system settings? |
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| 19:06.38 | phy1729 | what does kill -0 do? 0 doesn't seem to be a vaild signal |
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| 19:08.26 | jugglinmike | wols_: yeah.. I'm grasping at straws here |
| 19:08.51 | jelly-home | phy1729: exit code of kill command tells you whether a process with that pid exists or not |
| 19:08.54 | jugglinmike | and I appreciate your help :) |
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| 19:15.07 | MrMonkey31 | jugglinmike: the codenames wheezy, sid and jessie correspond to stable, unstable and testing er 'releases', I guess, and if your sources.list is standard then doing cat /etc/apt/sources.list should clear some things up regarding your install |
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| 19:15.34 | Okee | How do you ad icons to the desktop? |
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| 19:17.18 | archtimmy | phy1729: it's in the posix manpage for kill: http://man.cx/kill#heading18 |
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| 19:18.34 | phy1729 | that seems to be the right man page since -L isn't supported as the debian man page indicates |
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| 19:19.15 | jugglinmike | MrMonkey31: thanks! I replaced all occurrences of "wheezy" with "testing" and ran, `apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade` |
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| 19:25.37 | poa | Hi guys |
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| 19:27.14 | Okee | Gnome 3 sure doesn't look anything like the one that came with Wheezy; I see no desktop icons "http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/window-selection-3.10.png' |
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| 19:27.50 | pyrobisqit | How can I boot Debian with UEFI/Secure Boot enabled? |
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| 19:28.21 | pyrobisqit | I tried to disable Secure Boot, but it doesn't seem to be successful, the USB pendrive will just throw me at a GRUB shell |
| 19:28.27 | jelly-home | phy1729: hm, it ought to be... it's a common unix idiom, very old |
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| 19:29.23 | jelly-home | phy1729: you seem to be right -- it's not in either kill(1) or signal(7) |
| 19:29.24 | pyrobisqit | I've been trying to install Debian, then Ubuntu, then Arch, and each have its own problems... Could you guys give me a hand here? I'm tired of trying and failing... |
| 19:29.50 | phy1729 | jelly-home: it seems that the man page archtimmy linked is the correct one as -L isn't supported either |
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| 19:30.29 | jelly-home | phy1729: it is at this point that you'll be reminded that: man pages are not the main format for GNU tools, try "info coreutils kill" |
| 19:30.44 | jelly-home | format for manuals* |
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| 19:31.04 | phy1729 | still seems like the man page should correspond to the command installed |
| 19:31.29 | jelly-home | it's incomplete, worth filing a debian bug report if it's not reported already |
| 19:31.32 | archtimmy | jelly-home: on my system (jessie), kill is provided by procps |
| 19:31.53 | jelly-home | oh |
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| 19:32.19 | jelly-home | never checked |
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| 19:32.25 | archtimmy | but the behavior does not match the source... very weird |
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| 19:34.49 | kareem | i used to have horrible write speeds to my drive, then did some searching and changed sync to async. now dd reports great speeds (200mb+) but over a samba share, i'm only getting about 10mb |
| 19:34.51 | kareem | any ideas? |
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| 19:37.44 | jelly-home | 100Mbps network? |
| 19:38.56 | kareem | jelly-home, just recently got upgraded to gigabit |
| 19:39.10 | kareem | i get around 100 on my main 2tb drive |
| 19:39.19 | kareem | it's just thse new 3tb drives that i get slow speeds on |
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| 19:51.22 | archtimmy | phy1729: turns out kill is a bash builtin, try /bin/kill -L :) |
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| 19:56.28 | guest43242 | how to make icedove not save on local disk everything? |
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| 20:00.07 | phogg | guest43242: where would you prefer it to save? |
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| 20:00.28 | guest43242 | at the mail server |
| 20:00.31 | guest43242 | phogg, |
| 20:01.27 | phogg | guest43242: you'd still require a local cache, even with IMAP |
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| 20:01.44 | guest43242 | cache fine, not 100GB |
| 20:02.15 | vimes | Hello debian! I am going to install a Linux OS on my moms old computer. she *does not know how to computer*. I'm splitted between Debian and the debian derivant Crunchbang. The ocmputer has 500 MB ram |
| 20:02.23 | vimes | any thoughts? |
| 20:02.28 | vimes | and who would be lighter? |
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| 20:03.04 | Walex | vimes: the obvious choices are rather Debian, Ubuntu or Mint. |
| 20:03.16 | erore | I want to install debian but what is the difference between debian-update-7.3.0-amd64-CD-1.iso and debian-7.3.0-amd64-CD-1.iso ? |
| 20:03.46 | Walex | vimes: given that it is an old computer and you are familiar with Debian, probably Debian is best for you. |
| 20:03.51 | wols_ | erore: the update only contains updated packages from 7.0. you must use the non update iso |
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| 20:04.22 | vimes | walex: but my mom will use it |
| 20:04.23 | Walex | vimes: by default Ubuntu and Mint are somewhat ,more resource-consuming than Debian. |
| 20:04.24 | wols_ | vimes: you need a distro with long update cycles which means crunchbang is useless |
| 20:04.31 | erore | wols_: thanks, simple readme in the directory would be nice though... |
| 20:04.32 | Walex | vimes: but you have to support it. |
| 20:04.34 | vimes | I want it low maintenance, also debian I'd need to delete the new gnome |
| 20:04.40 | vimes | yeah I know |
| 20:04.46 | wols_ | vimes: no you don't. |
| 20:04.46 | vimes | ah |
| 20:05.08 | vimes | debian comes pre with something else then Gnome? (I use Arch Linux myself) |
| 20:05.11 | wols_ | there is no reason whatsoever to ever install gnome. there are even lxde and xfce install mediums |
| 20:05.13 | Walex | vimes: With Debian or Ubuntu ULTS or even Mint you can use any GUI/Desktop environment. |
| 20:05.26 | vimes | Mint and Ubuntu is a bit on the heavy side |
| 20:05.34 | vimes | Xubuntu was laggy |
| 20:05.37 | wols_ | vimes: xubuntu or lubuntu then |
| 20:05.41 | Walex | vimes: and currently the default for Debian 7 is XFCE or LXCE |
| 20:05.44 | wols_ | vimes: how much RAM and what CPU? |
| 20:05.58 | wols_ | Walex: no it's not. whatever you mean with "default" |
| 20:06.12 | vimes | 512MB DDR2 533MHz RAM in dual channel mode |
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| 20:06.18 | vimes | Intel Core Duo Processor T2500 at 2.0 GHz per core. |
| 20:06.28 | wols_ | lxde then |
| 20:06.33 | vimes | (copied from google, no I did not type 'dual channel mode') |
| 20:06.37 | vimes | so debian with lxde |
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| 20:06.40 | Walex | vimes: that's a bit challenging, try to find a bit more memory. |
| 20:06.53 | vimes | too low memory for lxde? |
| 20:07.04 | wols_ | it's doable |
| 20:07.12 | Walex | vimes: it is still a bit tight, bit as wols_ says doable |
| 20:07.17 | wols_ | the problem is the webbrowser |
| 20:07.33 | vimes | do I get a choice between desktop enviorments in the net install? |
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| 20:07.48 | wols_ | vimes: you don't need to install a DE or X at all there |
| 20:07.51 | vimes | I was using puppy, but seing as Java updates every 5 minutes and they need it for their bank, no., |
| 20:07.57 | vimes | apt-get is nice then |
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| 20:08.32 | Walex | wols_: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=tasksel/tasksel.git;a=commitdiff;h=dfca406eb694e0ac00ea04b12fc912237e01c9b5 |
| 20:08.41 | wols_ | vimes: don't install a desktop in the installer and afterards install xorg and lxde and you are set |
| 20:08.44 | hid3 | greetings. Anyone know a console player for *.wav and *.flac files? I liked 'mpg123' for *.mp3's.. |
| 20:08.57 | phogg | hid3: I use mplayer |
| 20:08.58 | vimes | hmm... i'll do that |
| 20:09.05 | phogg | hid3: but you should seriously consider mpd or moosic |
| 20:09.28 | phogg | hid3: for .wav you can just use aplay directly, which is simple but not much simpler than mpg123 |
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| 20:09.41 | Okee | Is it possible to move the start menu from the top to the bottom with the gnome-tweak-tool? |
| 20:09.57 | zinx | Okee: erh? just move the panel |
| 20:10.03 | zinx | oh wait, gnome 3.x, who the f' knows. |
| 20:10.10 | wols_ | Walex: maybe it will change from gnome to xfce for jessie. but there never has been a official default, only what tasksel installs when there is no special name on the install medium |
| 20:10.24 | squisher | hey folks, recently it feels like my hdd is spinning down just a couple of seconds after getting idle. I have ~3x the start-stop-count than power-on-hours in smart |
| 20:10.26 | zinx | i switched to xfce when gnome 3.x hit and i couldn't use my multi-monitor setup properly :P |
| 20:10.26 | wols_ | Walex: and this link certainly doesn't apply to wheezy in any way |
| 20:10.36 | squisher | but I don't recall changing any settings.... |
| 20:10.45 | hid3 | phogg: thanks! |
| 20:11.26 | wols_ | squisher: then use hdparm to change that. is it a WD green hdd? |
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| 20:11.29 | squisher | anyone have a pointer to possible config files that control hdd spin down aside from hdparm.conf? |
| 20:11.33 | guest43242 | what's icedove real name? |
| 20:11.47 | squisher | wols_: no, a 2.5" hitachi |
| 20:12.00 | squisher | guest43242: thunderbird |
| 20:12.11 | wes_incredible | guest43242: ThunderBird. |
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| 20:12.51 | ghost75 | for shrinking md raid1 ext3 i first run resize2fs and then shrink both partitions? |
| 20:14.17 | squisher | ghost75: you'll likely need to adjust the md metadata somehow too |
| 20:14.26 | guest43242 | ty |
| 20:14.34 | squisher | wols_: I'm trying to figure out too how to display the current value |
| 20:14.42 | ghost75 | the superblock? |
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| 20:15.42 | squisher | ghost75: yes, if I recall correctly that's at the end of the disk so you should look into that before shrinking the partition... |
| 20:15.49 | frostschutz | ghost75, mdadm --grow --size=something. I'd recommend breaking and redoing the raid instead |
| 20:16.01 | frostschutz | cause if you pick the wrong size you'll have a bad time |
| 20:16.02 | Walex | ghost75: no, that's not the right sequence of events, and don't try it at home. |
| 20:16.10 | ghost75 | its the root partition :< |
| 20:16.30 | squisher | why do you need to shrink it? |
| 20:16.45 | ghost75 | its too big |
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| 20:18.36 | squisher | hdparm -B says 127... but with -S I can't seem to read the current value |
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| 20:28.52 | ghost75 | the array size will stay the same after resize2fs ? |
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| 20:34.05 | ghost75 | frostschutz: how do i know how big the "something" needs to be? |
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| 20:38.35 | Okee | Does XFCE work with stable? I took a look at apt-cache search, and it mentions a bunch of xfce extensions, but not xfce itself. I don't like gnome3, and want to get rid of it. There are some good things about gnome 3: it is light, quick, bug free, but it doesn't offer enough customization of the desktop -- even with the tweak tool. |
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| 20:38.56 | jugglinmike | wols_: Don't know why, but moving from "stable" to "testing" solved my problem :) |
| 20:39.02 | jugglinmike | wols_: Thanks for you help! |
| 20:39.12 | wols_ | jugglinmike: different kernel. I told you to use a backports kernel. why didn't you? |
| 20:39.20 | wols_ | ,v xfce4 |
| 20:39.21 | judd | Package: xfce4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.6.2; wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; sid: 4.10.1 |
| 20:39.30 | wols_ | og01: that is what you install as a metapackage |
| 20:39.40 | wols_ | Okee: ^ |
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| 20:40.32 | jugglinmike | wols_: Oh. it sounds like I didn't understand your advice. I stopped after installing the `firmware-iwlwifi` package from the "backports" channel |
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| 20:40.54 | Okee | wols_>You called??? |
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| 20:41.44 | wols_ | Okee: I showed you what to install for xfce |
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| 20:43.26 | ghost75 | this seems to be workable http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-resize-raid-partitions-shrink-and-grow-software-raid |
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| 20:55.02 | ckorzhik | hello. Can I create something like USE flags in gentoo? I want to compile packages from source and update them automatically with my preferences (automatically == just something like apt-get update && apt-get upgrade) |
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| 20:57.08 | Yolsfran | soporte tecnico alguien |
| 20:57.16 | Yolsfran | (=_=)/ levante la mano por favor |
| 20:57.49 | Kwargs | Hello. File triggers record mentions illegal package name `libglib2.0-0: i386 '(in the file` / usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gio/modules'): the character `:' is not allowed (only letters are allowed, digit characters `- + _ '.) |
| 20:58.14 | Yolsfran | Exactly |
| 20:58.19 | Yolsfran | my friends |
| 20:58.26 | Yolsfran | join a troble |
| 20:58.28 | Yolsfran | XD |
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| 20:58.58 | Okee | Can someone tell me where the command interface is for gnome-shell-extensions? Apparently they are installed by default, but I can't find them. |
| 20:59.46 | Yolsfran | this is a problem, |
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| 21:00.05 | Yolsfran | dpkg: el fichero de registros de disparadores menciona un nombre de paquete ilegal `libglib2.0-0:i386' (en el fichero `/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gio/modules'): el carácter `:' no está permitido (solamente se permiten letras, dígitos caracteres `-+._') |
| 21:00.05 | dpkg_ | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, Yolsfran |
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| 21:00.34 | stew | !es |
| 21:00.34 | dpkg_ | Este canal es de soporte tecnico en Ingles para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en espanol, por favor ingrese a #debian-es con /join #debian-es tecleado en la linea de chat. |
| 21:00.47 | Yolsfran | okey |
| 21:00.51 | Yolsfran | tank you |
| 21:02.08 | Yolsfran | sorry for the inconvenience |
| 21:02.17 | Yolsfran | (=_=)/ |
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| 21:05.24 | freeroute | so I'm trying to open an encrypted LVM volume group, so far I manged to open it using cryptsetup luksOpen and it got mapped to /dev/mapper/luck, but when I mount it, it says "unknown filesystem type 'LVM_member'" |
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| 21:06.05 | freeroute | I also tried vgchange -a y /dev/mapper/luck but I got the error "Volume group "luck" not found" |
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| 21:06.39 | freeroute | if you're wondering why I decided to name it "luck", it's because I sometimes like irony |
| 21:07.18 | Some_Person | Can anyone suggest a lighter weight email client than Icedove? |
| 21:07.26 | william | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.40 | Hublai | Some_Person: Claws Mail. |
| 21:08.03 | Some_Person | Hublai: Thanks, I'll look into it |
| 21:08.17 | jhutchins | william: That's usually up to the recording software. |
| 21:08.24 | freeroute | paging petn-randall :) |
| 21:08.51 | william | jhutchins: is there a way that I can see that the input is coming through the device? I can't even see it in the kde mixer, but the device is available. |
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| 21:09.16 | jhutchins | william: see what? |
| 21:09.50 | william | I'd like to see the m-audio device in the kmixer. I think I should anyway. |
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| 21:12.16 | william | jhutchins: in kmixer I only see HDA NVidia capture for audio recording. |
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| 21:14.03 | tremon | freeroute: can you pastebin the output of vgs -o +pv_name? |
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| 21:14.51 | freeroute | tremon: do you happen to know if there's a commandline pastebin available to which I can route STDOUT/STDERR to? |
| 21:15.02 | freeroute | because I'm on a headless system it seems |
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| 21:15.28 | tremon | there should be, iirc there's nopaste |
| 21:15.44 | freeroute | looking it up now, just a sec |
| 21:15.49 | tremon | dpkg is ignoring me |
| 21:15.50 | dpkg_ | tremon: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 21:15.58 | tremon | ah there you are |
| 21:16.15 | tremon | !tell freeroute about nopaste |
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| 21:17.35 | rayzer | hii |
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| 21:18.05 | freeroute | thanks tremon |
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| 21:18.50 | rayzer | need som help, i need to compile very old software, you remember Uplink? |
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| 21:19.57 | rayzer | have tried some of the first debian releases, |
| 21:20.08 | firmware000 | if one would happen to have a large list of .flac files in a folder, how would he convert to lamemp3 format with ease |
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| 21:22.02 | bincycler | which word editor is best for my? libreoffice word spoils the look of documents I formatted well with Microsoft Word in my Windows VM |
| 21:22.31 | rayzer | i need to compile the crap, before i a port it to pure C |
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| 21:22.47 | tremon | firmware000: he would write a bash-oneliner loop decompressing the flac and piping the output into lame |
| 21:23.01 | firmware000 | open-office is the only other office like software suite that i know of bincycler |
| 21:23.17 | rayzer | the early debians, doesent work, |
| 21:23.37 | rayzer | cant get mirrors of g++ etc.. |
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| 21:23.57 | tremon | bincycler: microsoft word is the word processor that does best what microsoft word does |
| 21:24.11 | freeroute | tremon: I just did vgs --all and it seems that I called my volume HTPC_vg (which I forgot I did in the first place) |
| 21:24.13 | rayzer | or any other packages... |
| 21:24.39 | firmware000 | tremon: but i have been doing like ex: avconv -i tool.flac tool.mp3 for every file, and i now realize that i will be here for days if i do it all from cli |
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| 21:25.43 | firmware000 | tremon: also i found out that if i just use wild cards it breaks all of the files in the dir, sets them all to 0 bits :) |
| 21:26.08 | bincycler | tremon: office 2010 and 2013 failed to install with wine. I think I'll just have to search for a 2007 version hoping it'll do the job for me |
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| 21:27.57 | tremon | bincycler: besides libreoffice, there's calligra and abiword. None of them operate well with MS Word, especially with respect to layouting |
| 21:28.21 | firmware000 | is there a front end for avconv that i wont have to compile from source? |
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| 21:28.49 | rayzer | firmware000: what do you want to do= |
| 21:29.11 | psycheye | hi |
| 21:29.11 | rayzer | exactly |
| 21:29.37 | firmware000 | rayzer: convert a bunch of files so they will work with my crappy proprietary music player made by apple |
| 21:29.54 | rayzer | from ? to ? |
| 21:30.16 | firmware000 | well most of its flac some of it is already mp3 |
| 21:30.32 | rayzer | and you want= |
| 21:30.35 | rayzer | ? |
| 21:30.46 | firmware000 | well from what i can tell it needs to be aac |
| 21:31.01 | firmware000 | or mp3 i dont know whats better tho |
| 21:31.09 | rayzer | test ffmpeg -i FILE file.aac |
| 21:31.50 | firmware000 | rayzer: i know i could do that, but there is about 8,000 files here, maybe more |
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| 21:32.09 | tremon | firmware000: look at the examples here, or ask in #bash: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/030 |
| 21:32.28 | firmware000 | rayzer: oh you said test it to see if it works right? |
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| 21:33.16 | rayzer | for f in `ls *.flac`; do ffmpeg -i $f $f.aac; done |
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| 21:33.47 | tremon | rayzer: that will fail spectacularly for every file that contains a space |
| 21:34.00 | freeroute | petn-randall: I feel like I should still mention this but there's no kern.log and dmesg hasn't logged anything yet. I just spent about 3 hours trying to do this and the result is nothing. Not blaming you, it's just that I feel really frustrated because I've been trying to do something terribly trivial as installing Debian minimal and trying to run SSHD on it, but so far it has already taken up 2 days of my time. |
| 21:34.11 | jordanm | rayzer: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs |
| 21:34.24 | freeroute | I think I need a drink. |
| 21:34.32 | jordanm | rayzer: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#pf1 |
| 21:34.47 | firmware000 | http://paste.debian.net/72384/ btw yeah they almost all have spaces rayzer tremon |
| 21:34.59 | rayzer | IFS=$(echo -en "\n\b") for f in `ls *.flac`; do ffmpeg -i "$f" "$f.aac"; done |
| 21:35.04 | firmware000 | it says experimental or something. |
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| 21:35.17 | rryoumaa | ls is not even needed |
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| 21:35.53 | jordanm | firmware000: for f in *.flac; do ffmpeg -i "$f" "$f.aac"; done # is the non-broken version of the bash code |
| 21:36.05 | jordanm | I have no idea if it was close to a soultion your issue though |
| 21:36.09 | Zeranoe | I have two network cards on my Debian server, one had internet access and one does not. Do I need a switch between them somehow to get the internet access? The one with internet has an ip, but cant seem to get the internet |
| 21:36.55 | rayzer | but i still need help? wont some one, help the nooooob? |
| 21:37.05 | brontosaurusrex | rayzer, /j #bash ? |
| 21:37.30 | firmware000 | jordanm: what do i type? |
| 21:37.48 | tremon | rayzer: old debian releases are still available on archive.debian.org. |
| 21:37.58 | rayzer | brontosaurusrex: j? haha? what? |
| 21:38.10 | brontosaurusrex | rayzer, /join #bash |
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| 21:38.34 | rayzer | tremon: i now, but i still cant get debian to sync with those? |
| 21:38.46 | brontosaurusrex | and what jordanm said ^ |
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| 21:39.21 | rayzer | brontosaurusrex: so you think iam so bad? hehe |
| 21:39.53 | tremon | rayzer: sync? If you just want to install packages, read http://archive.debian.org/debian/README |
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| 21:40.23 | brontosaurusrex | rayzer, I'am the first to admin the eternal noobiness, so nothing like that was implied |
| 21:40.28 | brontosaurusrex | admit* |
| 21:40.44 | tremon | I thought you were very brave to try and admin it |
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| 21:42.30 | rayzer | no one remembers uplink= |
| 21:42.33 | rayzer | ? |
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| 21:43.34 | freeroute | *phew* NSA has left #debian, everyone time to relax and tell our deepest secrets! |
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| 21:44.20 | brontosaurusrex | and NSA wasn't after aac, but more likely aac in mp4 container, so yes your bad rayzer, bad bash, bad ffmpeg in one sentence, your even worse than me |
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| 21:44.22 | rayzer | freeroute: nsa, is always gonna be there, just like FRA in sweden' |
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| 21:45.37 | rayzer | brontosaurusrex: ok, maybe so, but ffmpeg still calculate output format |
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| 21:46.12 | jhutchins | !se |
| 21:46.12 | dpkg_ | Svensktalande debian-användare hittar du i #debian.se på FreeNode (irc.freenode.net), SE is also the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Sweden, it was included in the standard 1974. |
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| 21:46.54 | freeroute | rayzer: Free Radical Awesomeness? |
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| 21:47.49 | rayzer | freeroute: haha |
| 21:48.16 | rayzer | okej, can we c++ ? |
| 21:48.34 | rayzer | i need help |
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| 21:50.45 | rayzer | brontosaurusrex: hmm, my bash magic, works here |
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| 21:57.22 | rayzer | damn hard, to find idiots like me... |
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| 21:59.05 | freeroute | ok, situation: keyboard worked fine during Debian netinst install process, but after restarting it doesn't. What kernel modules were there and how can I insert them back in so that I can login? |
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| 21:59.32 | freeroute | I promise I'll help you once I know C++ rayzer :) |
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| 22:02.21 | brontosaurusrex | rayzer, good :) |
| 22:02.25 | rayzer | okwy |
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| 22:02.31 | rayzer | okey |
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| 22:03.15 | rayzer | will do it the hard way, there is a opensource, uplink clone, called Mylink |
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| 22:03.41 | rayzer | http://www.sourcefiles.org/Games/Strategy/mylink.tar.bz2 |
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| 22:05.02 | rayzer | if there is one who is sitting on a freebsd8.2 or a older variant of perl and linux, please tell me |
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| 22:06.01 | buu | rayzer: What are you doing with perl? |
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| 22:08.24 | Zeranoe | What is the network option /etc/network/interfaces ? I don't see any reference to it in https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
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| 22:10.30 | buu | Zeranoe: man interfaces |
| 22:10.39 | dvs | Zeranoe: Your question doesn't make sense to me. |
| 22:11.45 | ghost75 | my usb disk has only 2,5mb/s write speed oO |
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| 22:12.58 | smw | ghost75, that is faster than one of mine |
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| 22:14.32 | ghost75 | need write back cache |
| 22:17.52 | ghost75 | i cannot enable it with hdparm |
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| 22:20.51 | drewe44 | Has something changed from wheezy to Jessie in regards to the sudoers file? I am attempting to allow a specific user to execute a specific command without requiring a password. I've added an entry using visudo: user ALL=NOPASSWD:/sbin/iwconfig |
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| 22:21.10 | drewe44 | I am still prompted for a password |
| 22:21.32 | drewe44 | has worked perfect for years and years on other machines... |
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| 22:23.06 | rayzer | buu: youre in perl? |
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| 22:23.34 | rayzer | http://www.sourcefiles.org/Games/Strategy/mylink.tar.bz2 |
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| 22:23.45 | ghost75 | is there no way to use writeback on usb drives? |
| 22:23.57 | rayzer | please, if you can find it to work |
| 22:24.18 | rayzer | im totaly lost in perl |
| 22:24.23 | rayzer | buu: |
| 22:24.27 | bincycler | how can I create users for my ssh server |
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| 22:25.08 | babilen | bincycler: "man 8 adduser" |
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| 22:26.58 | bincycler | babilen that means I'll be creating a user account for the person on my computer |
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| 22:27.33 | bincycler | I thought I could just make users for SSHD that wouldn't necessarily be system users |
| 22:27.35 | ompaul | bincycler: which is the question you asked |
| 22:27.50 | ompaul | bincycler: what do you want these users to do |
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| 22:29.23 | rayzer | bincycler: then, you have misunderstand the very basic of unix/linux system |
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| 22:30.06 | ompaul | I think the answer stands at "I don't want them to use computer, I want them to use the computer" |
| 22:30.18 | rayzer | rsh |
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| 22:31.30 | bincycler | ompaul: I only want them to be able to log in remotely and handle system operations |
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| 22:32.25 | rayzer | bincycler: and what is "system operations" |
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| 22:32.27 | rayzer | ? |
| 22:32.30 | ompaul | bincycler: please be a lot more specific |
| 22:32.52 | ompaul | bincycler: explain in simple english, don't tie yourself up in jargon please |
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| 22:35.27 | MrMonkey31 | uh, the kernel param root= that's me passing the block device id of my root fs to the kernel right? (I know there's google but it laughs at me. I'm trying to do something funny akin to booting into a mounted iso) |
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| 22:36.22 | ompaul | MrMonkey31: mount -o loop or something like that |
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| 22:37.06 | rayzer | MrMonkey31: embedded? |
| 22:37.15 | tremon | MrMonkey31: for that to work, you need to have an initramfs that knows how to locate and mount that iso. Also, debian tools don't expect / to be read-only so you'll need to do some hacking |
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| 22:39.06 | MrMonkey31 | rayzer: yeah... me doing embedded linux... that'll be the day! specifically, it'll be a day after 2016 sometime. that's if I'm lucky. I really just want to laser-sight that one single kernel param |
| 22:39.42 | MrMonkey31 | it's remarkable how USELESS google has become. I've got a theory about that I'd be happy to outline in OT if anyone's interested :] |
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| 22:40.01 | MrMonkey31 | tremon: I'm not getting encouraged here! |
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| 22:41.42 | tremon | if you need encouragement for what you're trying to do, you should do something else instead. Why don't you start by telling us how far you've come so far, and we'll tell you the next step |
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| 22:41.57 | rayzer | MrMonkey31: You want to boot an iso, thats embedded for me, well, grub2 handle images very well, try the manual |
| 22:42.24 | MrMonkey31 | tremon: was j/k. I guess I'll need to break thru the newb shell which encases me before starting on this in earnest. I have no idea even where to begin assessing what my initrd knows/does not know |
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| 22:43.49 | MrMonkey31 | and between getting browbeat by google, and manuals, and tiptoeing around buzzwords which might set off abrotman, I'll be good and terse when I ask stuff around here. best for everybody this way, I s'ppose |
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| 22:44.13 | tremon | ah, that's easy. Start with lsinitramfs, then unpack it somewhere safe (zcat $initramfs | cpio -iv) and read /init |
| 22:44.29 | tremon | ;) |
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| 22:45.08 | MrMonkey31 | tremon: thx for pointing me in a direction. I likez to learn |
| 22:45.09 | rayzer | MrMonkey31: What are you trying to do? Are you trying to boot 1mb kernel from a 8mb sdflash to a 32mb nand image, its hard for us to guess |
| 22:45.31 | tremon | debian's /init is quite readable if you're familiar with (ba)sh |
| 22:45.50 | MrMonkey31 | rayzer, I'm building a multi linux dvd sampler to go forth into the world and proselytize about the benefits of linux |
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| 22:46.43 | tremon | maybe #debian-live would be of use to you. It's over on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:46.47 | rayzer | MrMonkey31: hmm so you trying to do a debian? |
| 22:48.10 | MrMonkey31 | tremon: you are a veritable onion mine of info! nah I'm going to up my skills wherever I may first. there's enough to keep me occupied, so no worries on that account |
| 22:48.48 | tremon | imagines a smelly pit of roots and layers |
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| 22:49.17 | MrMonkey31 | rayzer: I've already got a debian, a centos, a mandriva and a suse lined up. 2 of these I have't yet used personally |
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| 22:49.44 | rayzer | MrMonkey31: Haha dont take it that way, i did not mean it so, im glad to help, i was thinking if you targeted som new system, maybe all this new china tablets, arm7 |
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| 22:50.10 | Hassen | doh...redshift app isn't starting though i double-clicked it many times |
| 22:50.33 | tremon | MrMonkey31: I've found lfs (www.linuxfromscratch.org) quite helpful when learning about the lower-level linux env. Nothing like building everything yourself |
| 22:50.50 | tremon | Hassen: maybe the icon isn't where it appears to be? |
| 22:51.34 | rayzer | hahha |
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| 22:52.11 | Hassen | treaki_, go on and say maybe your eyes are not working properly? |
| 22:52.12 | Hassen | LMFAO |
| 22:52.18 | Hassen | tremon, * |
| 22:53.15 | tremon | Hassen: on a more serious note, the app is probably crashing. Run it from a terminal, see if it produces a useful error message |
| 22:53.47 | rayzer | okey, my girlfriend just told me fuck me self, and then whent to bed, thats a bad omen, right? i now, i shouldnt log in at #debian |
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| 22:55.14 | Hassen | tremon, understood. |
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| 22:55.33 | Nebukadneza | heho |
| 22:55.44 | rayzer | perl? |
| 22:55.48 | Nebukadneza | awk! |
| 22:56.26 | rayzer | Nebukadneza: yepp, could we exhange som experience? |
| 22:56.27 | jimcooncat | it's a hint rayzer get busy |
| 22:56.33 | Nebukadneza | i would *love* to learn awk |
| 22:56.39 | Nebukadneza | i can just not get me to actually do it ;/ |
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| 22:57.57 | orogor | hi |
| 22:57.59 | rayzer | well. awk, its a lot better than babies,girlfriends and --awkward-- family =) |
| 22:58.09 | orogor | anyone may help me on memory usage ? |
| 22:58.19 | orogor | http://pastebin.com/QqmwWcLN |
| 22:58.31 | orogor | on 8gb there s only 256M free with maybe 2gb of resident memory for apps and 1gb of cache |
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| 22:59.06 | jordanm | !tell orogor about free ram |
| 22:59.18 | rayzer | orogor: your paste tells nothing |
| 22:59.49 | jordanm | the paste tells that his usernames and programs running are super secret |
| 22:59.49 | rayzer | well xxxxxx is zzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 22:59.59 | orogor | jordanm, free tells me about the same thing |
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| 23:00.03 | jordanm | either way, there is no problem there |
| 23:00.18 | orogor | and i crashed the system twince already and triggered oom killer |
| 23:00.19 | jordanm | orogor: and it should, did you read the msg from dpkg? |
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| 23:00.27 | rayzer | jordanm: linux/bsd? |
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| 23:01.02 | jordanm | orogor: that paste doesn't show any evidence at all of running out of RAM for application use |
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| 23:01.15 | orogor | free tells me i have 1.5Gb free right now |
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| 23:01.43 | rayzer | orogor: linux/freebsd |
| 23:01.43 | Mjbmr | Hello |
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| 23:02.18 | Hassen | hello |
| 23:02.20 | orogor | rayzer, ?? iam running linux right now |
| 23:02.23 | orogor | http://pastebin.com/S818mFat |
| 23:02.27 | orogor | tahs the free output |
| 23:02.29 | rayzer | do you have `truss` in linux= |
| 23:02.32 | rayzer | ? |
| 23:02.49 | jordanm | rayzer: starce is the truss equivilent |
| 23:02.49 | orogor | i dont know that tool |
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| 23:02.54 | orogor | haaa |
| 23:03.05 | rayzer | so strace it is |
| 23:03.17 | rayzer | orogor: strace -P pid |
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| 23:03.35 | jordanm | orogor: usually OOM killer dumps memory info into dmesg when it's invoked |
| 23:03.39 | rayzer | orogor: or strace -p pid |
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| 23:04.11 | orogor | Oo what would you want me to trace ? |
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| 23:04.50 | tremon | orogor: 32bit system, or lots of programs using mmap? |
| 23:05.10 | Mjbmr | funny, search for "OpenSSL version mismatch. Built against 1000105f, you have 10001060" |
| 23:05.18 | orogor | 64b, 248 process running |
| 23:05.30 | orogor | mmap ?? |
| 23:05.35 | rayzer | well, i usually wany to see if there is shit happenening, and strace should tell me that. |
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| 23:06.01 | tremon | memory-mapped io: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SCSI-Generic-HOWTO/mmapio.html |
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| 23:07.17 | orogor | hummm i would think this would appear as buffer |
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| 23:07.37 | orogor | how would you check the ammount of mmapper io ? |
| 23:08.30 | rayzer | okey, im tired of idiots... |
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| 23:08.51 | rayzer | orogor: is it you program= |
| 23:08.54 | rayzer | ? |
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| 23:09.04 | rayzer | is it written by you? |
| 23:09.08 | orogor | haa no |
| 23:09.16 | tremon | yes, but I think I remember reading somewhere that not all mmap'ed memory is considered program memory. Could be wrong though |
| 23:09.22 | rayzer | what does it do? |
| 23:09.34 | orogor | it s just general system usage |
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| 23:09.49 | orogor | even at boot i have this weird memory usage |
| 23:09.50 | rayzer | reading 10tb of databases of loading porn from a folder? |
| 23:09.53 | jordanm | files written to tmpfs won't appear in process memory usage |
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| 23:10.00 | rayzer | or* |
| 23:10.01 | jordanm | eg /dev/shm or if you have /tmp mounted as tmpfs |
| 23:10.08 | tremon | ah good call |
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| 23:11.07 | orogor | there s /run , it s 7.3m |
| 23:11.12 | zagabar | about 3 month back, i did a apt-get dist-upgrade on my wherezy system, and ever since that day, when i do pm-suspend, and resume it, then everything is frozen. |
| 23:11.17 | zagabar | *wheezy |
| 23:11.34 | jugglinmike | Has anyone here configured "hold-middle-button-to-scroll" behavior for a Thinkpad trackpad/trackpoint? I'm trying to set it up according to thinkwiki, but it's not working out. http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint#Scrolling |
| 23:11.45 | zagabar | i can see things on the screen like a snapshot of how it looked when i suspended but it is completely unresponsive and i have to hold the power button |
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| 23:11.56 | rayzer | you got to be f me, are you sitting here all days, and second guessings peoples source, and trying to make sense of it=? |
| 23:11.58 | rayzer | ? |
| 23:12.10 | zagabar | anyone has an idea on what might cause it? |
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| 23:12.43 | mtn | zagabar: what video driver are you using? |
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| 23:13.29 | rayzer | no zagabar what videcard ? |
| 23:13.37 | rayzer | which |
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| 23:15.03 | mtn | zagabar: and do you have any non-wheezy sources listed? |
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| 23:15.21 | zagabar | mtn, rayzer: i have a laptop with switchable graphics, intel HD 3000 and nvidia 610M. i think i am by default using the intel HD one with nouveau (but i am not 100% sure, how do i check?) and i have installed bumblebee to be able to use nvidia with optirun for games |
| 23:15.56 | zagabar | http://paste.debian.net/72392/ |
| 23:15.58 | rayzer | zagabar: youre in Xorg right? |
| 23:16.01 | zagabar | this is my sources.list |
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| 23:16.04 | zagabar | rayzer: yes |
| 23:16.10 | rayzer | glxinfo |
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| 23:16.33 | zagabar | http://paste.debian.net/72393/ here is glxinfo without optirun |
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| 23:16.57 | zagabar | http://paste.debian.net/72394/ and here is with |
| 23:17.03 | mtn | zagabar: uh, you are running sid, not wheezy. probably a kernel/video driver issue. |
| 23:17.09 | rayzer | okey, the gl is fine |
| 23:17.22 | rayzer | the problem is? |
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| 23:17.31 | mtn | zagabar: sid support is on #debian-next on the oftc server |
| 23:18.01 | zagabar | mtn: ah right, sorry. i for some reason got a brainfart and mixed them upp |
| 23:18.04 | zagabar | up* |
| 23:18.12 | zagabar | thanks :) |
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| 23:18.54 | mtn | zagabar: I am not sure having some wheezy repos listed is useful, either |
| 23:19.21 | zagabar | right |
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| 23:20.50 | rayzer | well, zagabar was the one and only who could put out a nice report... |
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| 23:21.39 | zagabar | rayzer: what do you mean? |
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| 23:23.14 | rayzer | well zagabar; people think we know everytingh, you put out one line of code, and then automagically we know whats wrong =) |
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| 23:25.22 | erore | is there a simple way to install kde without installing openoffice? |
| 23:25.31 | donvito | whats the minimum system requirmens for 7.3 |
| 23:25.36 | jugglinmike | Having some trouble with my Thinkpad and trackpoint scrolling. This guide isn't working: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/Trackpoint#Trackpoint_Scrolling_on_Wheezy does anyone have any idea what's going wrong? |
| 23:25.45 | rayzer | btw you people suck, but try out lastest DirectFB, and please consider to patch up =) zagabar try it out =) |
| 23:26.24 | Mike9863 | I killed pulseaudio but now I'm having trouble getting it to start again. When I run pulseaudio -D it gives me an error saying the Daemon startup failed. Can anyone help me start it again? |
| 23:26.30 | rayzer | jugglinmike: some trouble? |
| 23:27.13 | rayzer | Mike9863: sudo service "service" restart |
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| 23:27.52 | jugglinmike | rayzer: yup |
| 23:28.28 | rayzer | jugglinmike: how the fuck, is i ever gonna understand that? |
| 23:28.40 | rayzer | som problem? |
| 23:29.02 | rayzer | ive got some problem with my ex |
| 23:29.08 | brguy | lol |
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| 23:29.35 | abrotman | dpkg_: tell erore about install kde |
| 23:29.38 | abrotman | erore: start smaller |
| 23:29.46 | abrotman | ugh .. bot fail |
| 23:29.49 | Mike9863 | rayzer: It says PulseAudio not started. Configured for per-user session. |
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| 23:29.52 | abrotman | dselect: tell erore about install kde |
| 23:29.53 | donvito | whats the minimum system requirmens for debian 7.3 |
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| 23:30.40 | rayzer | jugglinmike: what are you trying to do, where do it fail, and give me a pastelog of the fail,dmesg |
| 23:31.00 | erore | abrotman: so kde-plasma-desktop is the choice? |
| 23:32.40 | rayzer | Mike9863: sudo reboot, does it make any diff? |
| 23:33.20 | rayzer | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 23:33.38 | Mike9863 | I'd rather not turn my computer off or log out |
| 23:33.44 | rayzer | who are developing for Debian here? |
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| 23:34.05 | reazem | Hey! My ldap server also has to be a client right? |
| 23:34.11 | rayzer | Mike9863: then i cant really help you |
| 23:34.34 | rayzer | i have to se the bootlog |
| 23:35.10 | rayzer | reazem: what? |
| 23:35.36 | brguy | Hmm, does anyone use Debian into a VM here? |
| 23:35.50 | reazem | rayzer: I have a ldap server running. I want to log in with ldap users on the machine running the ldap service, so it has to be client of itself? |
| 23:36.01 | mtn | brguy: just ask your real question |
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| 23:36.40 | rayzer | reazem: hmm, you are talking of a mixed network.. |
| 23:36.53 | brguy | mtn: My Wheezy doesn't works well with Oracle VM on Windows 7. Actually only Gnome doesn't work, but lxde works pretty well. |
| 23:37.20 | reazem | rayzer: Every client on my network logs with ldap. |
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| 23:37.41 | mtn | brguy: never used that vm, debian works fine in virtualbox |
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| 23:37.46 | reazem | but 'su ldapuserhere' won't work on my server running the service. |
| 23:38.11 | reazem | and I changed nsswitch. |
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| 23:38.16 | rayzer | reazem: well, is it a mixed network? linux there, windows there? |
| 23:38.18 | mtn | brguy: probably a lack of 3d video |
| 23:38.44 | reazem | linux everywhere. |
| 23:38.51 | brguy | mtn: but it worked well before wheezy. It's a Dell ultrabook. Arch works fine on VM too. |
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| 23:39.11 | mtn | brguy: gnome didn't need 3d before gnome in wheezy |
| 23:39.37 | abrotman | erore: did you try it ? |
| 23:39.54 | jugglinmike | rayzer: I'm trying to configure the middle trackpad button to allow for scrolling with the trackpoint. Here's the dmesg output http://paste.debian.net/72397/ |
| 23:39.57 | brguy | mtn: I see, very disappointed :< but thx |
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| 23:40.23 | jugglinmike | I followed the steps documented here https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/Trackpoint#Trackpoint_Scrolling_on_Wheezy but no luck |
| 23:40.24 | rayzer | am drowning, reazem nfsv4?? |
| 23:40.47 | rayzer | jugglinmike: im checking |
| 23:40.50 | reazem | rayzer: Linux only. |
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| 23:41.23 | reazem | rayzer: nfsv3, But nfs isn't doing anything for logins. |
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| 23:41.51 | rayzer | jugglinmike: put up another log, without grep |
| 23:42.29 | jugglinmike | kk |
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| 23:42.51 | erore | abrotman: I just ran apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop it need over 1gb :-( |
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| 23:43.13 | ghost75 | what are u using for imaging disks? |
| 23:43.15 | rayzer | reazem: im running, freebsd as server, nfsv4 en every machine is booting, or reading with mount -o vers=4 |
| 23:43.33 | reazem | rayzer: You did not understand my question. |
| 23:43.36 | abrotman | erore: kde is not small .. not sure what you want .. |
| 23:43.44 | abrotman | erore: aptitude -R install kde-plasma-desktop |
| 23:43.50 | jugglinmike | rayzer: http://paste.debian.net/72398/ |
| 23:44.12 | reazem | rayzer: I have a machine running a ldap service. Every client can login fine, my setup works. But on the machine running the service, I would like to login with a ldap user. |
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| 23:44.38 | erore | abrotman: well I am just surprised at the size, I do not really mind, just do not want openoffice and other sw like video and music players, I just want a clean graphical system... |
| 23:44.51 | rayzer | reazem: but you dont understand my poin, ldap, is pointless |
| 23:44.59 | rayzer | point |
| 23:45.16 | abrotman | erore: aptitude -R install kde-plasma-desktop |
| 23:45.34 | rayzer | jugglinmike: usb3? |
| 23:45.40 | reazem | rayzer: Ldap is what I use to store my users. |
| 23:45.45 | abrotman | why is ldap useless? |
| 23:45.48 | reazem | rayzer: What do you mean? |
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| 23:47.49 | jugglinmike | rayzer: It looks like that's the integrated webcam? I don't have any external usb devices connected |
| 23:47.56 | rayzer | abrotman: how would you do? im no nfs-expert, so please me and reazem =) |
| 23:48.16 | abrotman | rayzer: do what? |
| 23:48.29 | rayzer | jugglinmike: do you have sshd open? |
| 23:48.48 | reazem | rayzer: Why are you talking about nfs? |
| 23:49.01 | jugglinmike | rayzer: This thinkpad has an internal ssd |
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| 23:49.06 | jugglinmike | but it's not the primary drive |
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| 23:49.49 | rayzer | reazem: hahah |
| 23:50.04 | rayzer | im so sorry |
| 23:51.07 | rayzer | jugglinmike: well i need to get in |
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| 23:52.06 | jugglinmike | rayzer: sorry, I don't understand |
| 23:52.08 | rayzer | you can give lsusb, lspci |
| 23:52.58 | orogor | i think he s drunk or some kind of bot |
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| 23:54.42 | rayzer | well i am, but i still got you commits to ath9k |
| 23:54.44 | rayzer | http://paste.debian.net/72398 |
| 23:55.04 | rayzer | still dont see any touch here |
| 23:55.05 | jugglinmike | rayzer: http://paste.debian.net/72401/ |
| 23:56.02 | rayzer | jugglinmike:lsusb |
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| 23:56.31 | rayzer | jugglinmike:lspci i mean |
| 23:56.46 | jugglinmike | rayzer: both are included |
| 23:56.54 | orogor | ... see what i meant ? |
| 23:57.29 | orogor | could be some kind of bot |
| 23:57.38 | rayzer | could you paste me /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:57.51 | Penix | orogor: if only |
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| 23:58.46 | rayzer | i may be drunk, but im still known to make wonders =) |
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| 23:59.17 | abrotman | wonders if orogor is a bot-accusing bot |
| 23:59.27 | rayzer | hur mycket försöker ni?/how do you try=) hehe |
