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| 00:01.57 | veryhappy | anybody in here who has a solution? |
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| 00:08.39 | meshuggah | veryhappy, i am depressed since year, you got a solution? |
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| 00:10.49 | veryhappy | meshuggah: i read only that it happens when you already have an entry in your /etc/fstab, that is not in the right syntax... |
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| 00:11.24 | meshuggah | i am not the guy to ask technical question, i can barely burn a livecd |
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| 00:25.29 | veryhappy | isn't here anyone who solved the problem? |
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| 00:27.08 | meshuggah | i am on windows, bro |
| 00:27.24 | veryhappy | what do you do in here then? |
| 00:27.49 | meshuggah | why, you want me to quit? |
| 00:27.52 | meshuggah | :'( |
| 00:27.52 | veryhappy | no |
| 00:28.01 | veryhappy | i just asked you what you do in here |
| 00:28.01 | meshuggah | first linux i used was debian |
| 00:28.11 | meshuggah | on computer i got winshit7, sabayon and antix |
| 00:28.17 | meshuggah | antix is from debian |
| 00:28.21 | meshuggah | it is why i am here |
| 00:28.23 | veryhappy | why don't you quit using windows? |
| 00:28.29 | meshuggah | for the games |
| 00:28.34 | veryhappy | ah same problem for me |
| 00:28.47 | veryhappy | there's no real directx implementation for linux |
| 00:28.50 | meshuggah | else i would be only linux |
| 00:29.30 | veryhappy | there has to be a solution |
| 00:29.43 | veryhappy | windows is that widely used |
| 00:29.54 | veryhappy | but linux is in many points more effective |
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| 00:36.04 | veryhappy | thank you guys |
| 00:36.06 | veryhappy | take care |
| 00:37.24 | zinx | veryhappy: directx is a proprietary microsoft set of libraries, and a fast moving one at that. |
| 00:37.45 | zinx | veryhappy: wine has a partial implementation |
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| 00:54.42 | reavengrey | ,v googleearth |
| 00:54.43 | judd | No package named 'googleearth' was found in i386. |
| 00:54.47 | reavengrey | ,v googleearth-package |
| 00:54.48 | judd | Package: googleearth-package on i386 -- squeeze/contrib: 0.6.1; wheezy/contrib: 0.7.0; jessie/contrib: 1.1.0; sid/contrib: 1.1.0 |
| 00:59.18 | reavengrey | Oh hey guys |
| 00:59.28 | reavengrey | I have a suggestion for the next major release of Debian |
| 00:59.29 | reavengrey | We can call it |
| 00:59.35 | reavengrey | Debian 8.0, "Yeezy" |
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| 00:59.49 | reavengrey | Because Kanye West is awesome like that |
| 00:59.56 | darkblue_b | not |
| 01:00.00 | reavengrey | :( |
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| 01:10.52 | axel_foley | hello |
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| 01:31.59 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | hi |
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| 01:35.08 | zophy | hi |
| 01:35.27 | zophy | i like you guys and your linuxy things |
| 01:35.52 | zophy | i need some help with debian |
| 01:36.06 | zophy | i need a sager laptop to run it on |
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| 01:39.46 | axel_foley | sager?? |
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| 01:40.49 | axel_foley | zophy, what help do you need |
| 01:41.19 | axel_foley | or what goes wrong |
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| 01:45.48 | zybiski | Dear #Debian. What apt-get'able app could you recommend that will help me slap together a very basic html webpage in a few minutes if i can barely recognise html code when i see it. I can drag squares and design it in inkscape and thats about it. |
| 01:46.20 | zybiski | we have 2 hours |
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| 01:48.04 | axel_foley | sorry i do not have experience in html ... |
| 01:50.05 | axel_foley | http://www.aptana.org/ could help |
| 01:50.07 | axel_foley | ? |
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| 01:50.45 | axel_foley | or bluefish |
| 01:50.57 | axel_foley | apt-get install bluefish |
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| 01:52.52 | axel_foley | or netbeans can be used to create html code |
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| 02:06.49 | zybiski | thanks axel_foley, i'll try those |
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| 02:12.52 | darkblue_b | that is a good question.. Mozilla had a Web Page editor for a long while that was good enough |
| 02:13.10 | darkblue_b | it was part of the big Mozilla auite iir.. that was a long while ago |
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| 02:13.13 | darkblue_b | suite |
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| 02:14.49 | darkblue_b | "SeaMonkey's powerful yet simple HTML editor keeps getting better with dynamic image and table resizing, quick insert and delete of table cells, improved CSS support, and support for positioned layers. For all your documents and website projects, Composer is all you need." |
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| 02:15.09 | darkblue_b | .. looks like it is being developed currently |
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| 02:16.15 | justaguy | Hello, i have a laptop with fresh installed debian and the max screen resolution i can use is 1152 x 864 , i have used ubuntu before and there it was 1600x900 |
| 02:16.39 | justaguy | so no idea what happend @ debian that made it be max 1152x864 |
| 02:17.22 | darkblue_b | justaguy: Debian ships only free and open source software, many video and other hardware drivers are non-free.. so you have to enable and install them |
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| 02:19.05 | justaguy | darkblue_b: i have AMD radeon, so do i need to do apt-get install fglrx-driver |
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| 02:20.54 | darkblue_b | justaguy: I amnot sure - I generally use Debian on headless machines |
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| 02:21.29 | justaguy | darkblue_b: same here but now i'm trying it out @ laptop |
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| 02:22.30 | glayson | I know how to get my laptop to output video to my TV through HDMI using xrandr, but how can I also get audio output? |
| 02:22.30 | darkblue_b | is synaptic available ? |
| 02:22.47 | somiaj | justaguy: the free radeon driver works just fine and in some case close to fglrx preformance? What you want to use your laptop for? 3d? |
| 02:23.17 | somiaj | glayson: cat /proc/asound/cards -- do you see a card for your hdmi device there? |
| 02:23.17 | darkblue_b | somiaj: he wants higher screen resoltuion |
| 02:23.44 | somiaj | darkblue_b: the free radeon driver can get any of the resolutions just fine, its the 3d support that it is slightly less on |
| 02:24.58 | somiaj | justaguy: you might want to take a look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and see why it sin't detecting teh higehr resolutions |
| 02:25.09 | justaguy | somiaj: well somehow my screen resolution is 1152x 864 and i can't change it and i'm 100% sure my laptop is 1600x900 |
| 02:25.36 | somiaj | justaguy: you have ran xrandr -q, and don't see higher resolutions int he list? |
| 02:25.57 | justaguy | somiaj: will run it after i got my wifi working :p |
| 02:26.52 | glayson | somiaj: I don't think so, but here is the output: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=nMmTqPSB |
| 02:27.37 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | is this expected that lightdm doesn't source /etc/profile ? ~/bin is not prefixed to PATH in my X session |
| 02:28.01 | justaguy | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/GbdSz1aw |
| 02:28.04 | mouz\lex | what would you guys recommend for an old-ish laptop, used primarily for coding? (sid/jessie/stable?) |
| 02:28.42 | well_laid_lawn | if you want to use newer libraries use newer os version |
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| 02:30.08 | darkblue_b | mouz\lex: I have had great success with Xfce4 - not sure how to get it.. maybe netinstall headless and then add it ? |
| 02:30.12 | somiaj | justaguy: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and lets see what it is detecting |
| 02:30.21 | darkblue_b | I like Xfce4 better than other GUIs |
| 02:30.44 | mouz\lex | I am not talking about window managers or DEs |
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| 02:30.58 | somiaj | glayson: well I know on my laptop the HDMI is it's own audio device, not sure why I don't see it there. |
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| 02:32.23 | mouz\lex | I guess what I am asking is, will using stable give me any troubles as a programmer? |
| 02:32.39 | darkblue_b | mouz\lex: I use Debian 7 - great for me |
| 02:32.44 | somiaj | mouz\lex: depends on what you are programing for. But most things can compile on stable |
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| 02:32.58 | somiaj | mouz\lex: note if you want something newer than is offered in stable, look into backports |
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| 02:34.00 | darkblue_b | mouz\lex: yes absolutely matters what APIs you are programming to.. what language and libraries |
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| 02:36.15 | somiaj | glayson: I see a few mentions that the second card you have there could your hdmi card, but may need some modprove.conf config options added to the module. Not something I have that much experience, just looking at google about the sound card |
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| 02:37.17 | justaguy | somiaj: when booting you see that screen with ok ok ok that this blabla, and i saw "readon needs blabla firmware-linux-free" , so i installed that and rebooted and now it's using full screen resolution :D |
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| 02:37.53 | nonconvergent | mouz\lex: ...no, for the most part, with one note: A lot of platforms have their own repositories and ides are constantly altering their secondary functionality. |
| 02:38.07 | somiaj | justaguy: didn't know you needed the firmware for better resolutions, I know you need it for 3d support. |
| 02:38.12 | somiaj | justaguy: should have mentioned that eariler. |
| 02:40.02 | justaguy | bluh that debian standard terminal with white background really hurts my eyes |
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| 02:41.46 | justaguy | somiaj: well I already heard debian is just horrible when doing it on a laptop because of firmware needs and all, but once configured, it's nice |
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| 02:42.54 | somiaj | justaguy: that isn't a debian standard, but more the de/terminal you use. xterm has the black standard which I use |
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| 02:43.16 | somiaj | justaguy: debian works just fine, very new laptops will always be an issue because debian stable freeze cycle, but ocne you understand how debian deals with non-free works just fine |
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| 02:44.40 | justaguy | back |
| 02:44.41 | darkblue_b | I dont know how people can complain about a community supported OS |
| 02:44.47 | justaguy | me is back |
| 02:44.57 | darkblue_b | I am often in awe of debian, really |
| 02:45.04 | justaguy | Well i'm not complaining about debian @ all, i like it! |
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| 02:49.23 | comradekingu | s2hohoho |
| 02:49.30 | comradekingu | wrong chat |
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| 02:52.02 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | how do I source my /etc/profile in X by default? |
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| 03:01.13 | justaguy | darkblue_b: well debian is just needing some tweaks here , somehow i was missing my maximize and minimize buttons and fixed that now |
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| 03:07.19 | justaguy | somiaj: thank you for your help :D , i'm going to sleep now |
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| 03:14.02 | Corin | No one knows why MPlayer2 and mpv won't work with certain videos after updating to Jessie? |
| 03:14.06 | Guest71941 | what installs /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf |
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| 03:15.00 | Guest71941 | ah libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 03:15.09 | Guest71941 | switch from arch linux is so painfull |
| 03:15.14 | Guest71941 | uses to sanely names packages |
| 03:15.17 | Guest71941 | used* |
| 03:16.12 | ska | When the non-graphical installer comes to the software selection menu, can I safetly remove all the options for minimal install?? |
| 03:16.31 | ska | or will some fundamental parts be removed as well? |
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| 03:20.04 | ska | I'm wondering about "standard system utilities" |
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| 03:21.04 | peterrooney | Guest71941: when your namespace is ~ 2^15, your sanity may reduce. |
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| 03:24.50 | somiaj | ska: yes, though I would install the 'standard' task |
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| 03:35.42 | ska | somiaj: I failed to do so, so I have to chroot /target and apt-get install xyz |
| 03:35.53 | theteju | hey guys |
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| 03:36.25 | theteju | I wan to try out debian,, but I am stuck , could not make a bootable live usb :P |
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| 03:37.24 | theteju | I am on ubuntu currently and I have downloaded....debian-live-7.2-amd64-standard.iso |
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| 03:43.14 | theteju | Hum,, its not as easy as I thought,, ::( |
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| 03:49.27 | wingman2 | theteju: Have you tried lili? |
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| 03:53.18 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | theteju: just invoke: sudo cp debian-live.iso /dev/sdb |
| 03:53.34 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | sdb being your USB device |
| 03:53.58 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | it has all it needs to boot |
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| 03:54.31 | theteju | should usb mounted or unmounted? |
| 03:54.46 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | I don't think it matters :) |
| 03:54.52 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | if it complains, unmount it |
| 03:55.13 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | but not via gvfs (nautilus), as it'll make the device disappear |
| 03:55.39 | theteju | oh, |
| 03:55.42 | theteju | thats what I did |
| 03:55.43 | theteju | wait |
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| 03:58.48 | theteju | I have to reboot the system |
| 03:59.03 | theteju | will be disconnected,, lets see.... I dont even know if it copied or not |
| 03:59.07 | theteju | :P |
| 03:59.15 | theteju | I sound so dummy here |
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| 04:01.48 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | 3 minutes seems too little to copy a 1+GB image onto a USB |
| 04:01.52 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | unless it's very fast |
| 04:02.10 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | but if the shell said nothing before returning, it may be it :) |
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| 04:04.07 | wingman2 | thats only five MB/s |
| 04:04.26 | pbk829 | could anyone recommend the best place to buy a decent laptop to run debian on? |
| 04:04.47 | Coweater | ebay |
| 04:05.18 | Coweater | buyer beware |
| 04:05.30 | pbk829 | is ebay better than newegg? |
| 04:06.22 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | wingman2: weird, why do my thumbs always take half an hour to 'burn' :/ |
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| 04:07.25 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | Coweater: ebay has buyer protection and is international |
| 04:07.29 | Coweater | i have a different definition of decent than you do, but slightly older machines tend to have better linux support and they are best fonud on ebay |
| 04:07.30 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | also is competitive and cheap |
| 04:07.55 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | Coweater: sorry, I mean't pbk829 :D |
| 04:09.29 | wingman2 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI: Have you tried using dd if=/image of=/dev/sdX bs=1M |
| 04:09.33 | pbk829 | i was hoping to get one with a core i5 processor |
| 04:10.10 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | wingman2: I have |
| 04:10.36 | pbk829 | what does bs=1M do? |
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| 04:11.02 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | it's more likely my my images are 3G+ untgz-ed and usb keys Chinese from ebay at .5$/GB |
| 04:11.13 | wingman2 | ahh |
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| 04:12.05 | wingman2 | Sets the block size |
| 04:12.05 | wingman2 | Reads that amount into memory |
| 04:12.05 | wingman2 | Then writes that amount onto the output file |
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| 04:12.56 | pbk829 | interesting. i'll use it from now on |
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| 04:14.42 | Kvaq | is it necessery to have swap if you got 6gig RAM? |
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| 04:15.34 | dvs | Kvaq: If you never plan to hibernate your machine, it's OK |
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| 04:18.12 | wingman2 | No, but if you do the linux kernel can still swap out things and use the freed memory for buffers and cache |
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| 04:23.23 | voxadam | Is there any way to make the scroll buffer respond to my mouse wheel when I connect to my box via SSH from a Windows/PuTTY session? |
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| 04:25.49 | smw | voxadam, the scroll buffer is putty, not really a debian question |
| 04:26.10 | voxadam | Good to know. Thanks. |
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| 04:47.28 | JordanJ2 | Hello, I keep trying apt-get install htop but it tells me the package cannot be found |
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| 04:47.43 | dvs | ,v htop |
| 04:47.44 | judd | Package: htop on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.3-1; wheezy: 1.0.1-1; jessie: 1.0.2-3; sid: 1.0.2-3 |
| 04:48.07 | dvs | JordanJ2: pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
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| 04:48.26 | JordanJ2 | dvs, alright |
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| 04:48.37 | Rusty1 | JordanJ2: did you apt-get update first? |
| 04:48.37 | JordanJ2 | I've tried |
| 04:49.39 | JordanJ2 | dvs, http://puu.sh/6224N.png |
| 04:50.13 | dvs | !wheezy sources.list |
| 04:50.13 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
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| 04:50.22 | dvs | That's all you need. |
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| 04:51.05 | JordanJ2 | So remove what I have and add that? |
| 04:51.27 | dvs | JordanJ2: Yes, those three lines in quotes |
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| 04:51.46 | darkblue_b | no quotes in the file |
| 04:51.59 | dvs | of course! |
| 04:52.07 | JordanJ2 | I know :P |
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| 05:00.17 | JordanJ2 | Thank you dvs, thank fixed it |
| 05:00.36 | dvs | ;-) |
| 05:01.14 | JordanJ2 | Figured it was something with the sources |
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| 05:02.56 | JordanJ2 | While i'm here, i'm running debian in VMWare and cannot access Debian over a bridged connection |
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| 05:59.18 | the-croupier | greetings, after a lot of research i cannot unblock this stupid wifi(phy0-hard blocked) |
| 05:59.34 | the-croupier | can anyone suggest any routes to solution |
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| 06:00.37 | well_laid_lawn | checked rfkill ? |
| 06:01.00 | the-croupier | yep, |
| 06:01.09 | well_laid_lawn | k |
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| 06:02.04 | the-croupier | checked rfkill,net-settings air-mode off, |
| 06:03.31 | the-croupier | its weird because it happens with any wifi card that i plug in :( nothing works :( |
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| 06:05.46 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | did you make sure you're not online on wired? |
| 06:05.59 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | and that network-manager service is not running |
| 06:06.04 | the-croupier | yes, i tried that multiple times |
| 06:06.16 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | k |
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| 06:07.26 | the-croupier | i even downloaded wicd at some point cause someone on one of the forums suggested it might be a network-manager issue |
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| 06:09.06 | the-croupier | tried, switching on/off after bios loads, before os loads (someone suggested) |
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| 06:10.45 | the-croupier | tried also: network-manager aiplane mode off, rfkill ublock all, rfkill disable all, suspend, re-open, wifi off/on...etc... that didnt work either :( |
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| 06:13.48 | well_laid_lawn | found this which may have a solution |
| 06:13.49 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | hardware antenna button? |
| 06:13.50 | well_laid_lawn | https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?18311-WiFi-hardware-blocked-RFkill-not-working |
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| 06:16.51 | the-croupier | yep, that is one of the links i have followed, with the fn-f5 in my case, and the standby situation :( |
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| 06:17.50 | well_laid_lawn | just read anther forum post that suggests taking out the battery for a while a few times 'till it works.. |
| 06:18.13 | well_laid_lawn | nothing in the bios about the wifi ? |
| 06:19.08 | the-croupier | nothing, as far as i can recall, |
| 06:19.29 | well_laid_lawn | k |
| 06:19.38 | the-croupier | what scares me a little is the fact that not only my default card doesnt work, but any usb-adapter i have tried so far, does not respond |
| 06:20.06 | well_laid_lawn | does seem weird ... |
| 06:20.08 | the-croupier | i have tried at least 4 by now :( cisco,tp-link,dlink...etc...) no luck |
| 06:20.26 | well_laid_lawn | the chip is more important than the brand |
| 06:20.33 | the-croupier | i know, :( |
| 06:21.09 | the-croupier | lsprobe |
| 06:21.15 | the-croupier | sorry, wrong terminal |
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| 06:21.32 | the-croupier | and wrong comand :( |
| 06:21.49 | well_laid_lawn | heh |
| 06:21.53 | well_laid_lawn | it happens |
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| 06:24.34 | the-croupier | i wonder if it might be some kind of module/firmware stupidity on my part :( |
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| 06:25.15 | amindfv | is it possible to install packages onto a live USB stick with apt-get? |
| 06:25.27 | the-croupier | thinks its hard to find one own mistakes :( |
| 06:25.33 | amindfv | i'm trying but it appears to say the disk is full |
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| 06:25.46 | the-croupier | amindfv: yes, but when you reboot they are all gone |
| 06:26.42 | amindfv | the-croupier: how? regular apt-get install isn't working for me |
| 06:27.14 | the-croupier | amindfv: there is actual space on the live-usb? |
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| 06:27.24 | the-croupier | actually free-space |
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| 06:28.03 | the-croupier | i have a 8gb live usb, and apt-get has installed all sorts of *pkges |
| 06:28.19 | amindfv | it's a 16gb usb stick with <4gb of debian on it, but df-h is giving me lots of 0s for available space |
| 06:29.13 | the-croupier | did you format your disks manually on installing the live-usb |
| 06:29.26 | amindfv | using dd |
| 06:29.46 | the-croupier | check to see if you are using the whole space |
| 06:30.00 | the-croupier | gparted might help (usually in all the live-usbs) |
| 06:30.30 | amindfv | ok, thanks |
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| 06:31.29 | the-croupier | no worries, if you use specific / space and it updates whatever pkgs... it will just report that all the time :( |
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| 06:37.40 | dragonslay | Hi, I need help with replacing named dns server with dnsmasq. How do I do it? Is it better to remove bind altogether? |
| 06:39.35 | wols | what do you use the dns server for? |
| 06:39.44 | wols | and yes, simply remove bind, add dnsmasq |
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| 06:41.21 | dragonslay | As a local dns server. Also can I add some more public dba servers in dnsmasq.conf? |
| 06:41.35 | wols | dba? |
| 06:41.54 | dragonslay | sorry, dns |
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| 06:43.17 | wols | no, dnsmasq is caching only, but you can add some to resolv.conf |
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| 06:53.06 | dragonslay | Wols: I'm actually using to block domain using wild cards since host file doesn't allow it |
| 06:54.51 | dragonslay | Will there be any drawback if I remove bind or can I configure wildcards in bind itself? |
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| 07:20.47 | phy1729 | I've done sudo service network reload and restart but the server isn't taking it's IP from interfaces and is getting an IP from dhcp |
| 07:21.22 | wols | how do you configure your network? |
| 07:21.23 | phy1729 | interfaces is https://gist.github.com/eb69e5d0778316b95a49 |
| 07:21.36 | phy1729 | that server should be static IP |
| 07:22.14 | wols | set it "auto eth0" |
| 07:22.39 | wols | it is a server, so no X or network-manager? |
| 07:23.01 | phy1729 | nope |
| 07:23.08 | phy1729 | I don't think n-m is installed |
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| 07:24.36 | phy1729 | dhclient is running for some reason |
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| 07:30.59 | XPPRESP3 | hi all , session - is this debian commands & what is the purpose ? thank U |
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| 07:32.21 | wols | XPPRESP3: once more with more thought before writing? |
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| 07:33.21 | XPPRESP3 | wols, ?? |
| 07:36.09 | well_laid_lawn | XPPRESP3: your question doesn't make much sense. when you log in you start a session |
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| 07:43.54 | vapor | Im having issues with sound. I can hear some videos playing on say Youtube but others not. |
| 07:44.15 | vapor | Ive downloaded pulseaudio and the sound is still spotty. |
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| 08:03.38 | nonconvergent | http://paste.debian.net/72958/ Trying to make debs for btsync using a provided script. I guess they have their arch configured wrong. |
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| 08:07.49 | nonconvergent | Or maybe it's mine? |
| 08:08.06 | nonconvergent | "dpkg-architecture: warning: specified GNU system type i486-linux-gnu does not match gcc system type x86_64-linux-gnu, try setting a correct CC environment variable |
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| 08:35.02 | justanotheruser | Is there a way to install debian over crunchbang without having to wipe and and install? |
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| 08:35.58 | well_laid_lawn | crunchbang is debian with an extra repo justanotheruser |
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| 08:36.07 | somiaj | justanotheruser: there could be differences that you will not see until far down the road that could cause unfoseen bug. I would reinstall just to be safe |
| 08:36.23 | TeslaTony | I want to install a dual boot system with win8 and debian, but I'm having trouble finding if the installer that comes with debian-live-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso is UEFI compatible or not, or if I need to monkey with the main DVD images. Anyone able to point me the right way? |
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| 08:38.13 | justanotheruser | The problem is that I have an encrypted volume so it's a major hassle. Do you know a way around wiping and reinstalling with an encrypted volume well_laid_lawn or somiaj |
| 08:38.37 | somiaj | justanotheruser: you should be able to use the same filesystem and same key, just might want to wipe the drive first with rm |
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| 08:38.51 | somiaj | again it could just work, but the differences who knows what will happen down the road |
| 08:39.04 | justanotheruser | somiaj: can I do sudo rm rf on debian? |
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| 08:41.54 | somiaj | justanotheruser: when you are using the installer, you should be able to mount your encrypted partition just fine with the same key. Before you start installing (tell debian installer to keep the filesystem as is) you may want to delete the contents of the partition, or better move them to say /crunchbang |
| 08:42.00 | somiaj | you could also do that from a live image |
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| 08:42.21 | justanotheruser | okay cool, thanks somiaj |
| 08:42.36 | tachyons | hi |
| 08:42.45 | tachyons | can anyone help me in a packaging issue |
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| 08:42.55 | somiaj | tachyons: what is the issue? |
| 08:43.08 | tachyons | somiaj, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/161000108/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-i386.lttoolbox_3.2-1ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz |
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| 08:43.48 | tachyons | somiaj, can you help me to understand possible cause? |
| 08:44.07 | somiaj | tachyons: that looks like ubuntu, goto #ubuntu |
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| 08:46.32 | tachyons | somiaj, I am redirected from there |
| 08:46.35 | tachyons | to here |
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| 08:46.43 | tachyons | should I go back? |
| 08:47.14 | somiaj | what are you trying to do? What os do you run? |
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| 08:48.08 | somiaj | what I see there is not how I build packages in debian, and it seems to be grabing a lot of stuff from ubuntu repos |
| 08:49.28 | tachyons | somiaj, means it is depandancy issue, not a debian-packaging issue? |
| 08:49.49 | wols | tachyons: it is no debian issue in any way when you run ubuntu and build a package for ubuntu |
| 08:50.20 | wols | ubuntu uses apt-get too,just like debian, but if you have a apt-get problem in ubuntu, this channel is not the proper place to ask either |
| 08:50.23 | somiaj | tachyons: I have no clue why #ubuntu would tell you to come here if you are building a ubuntu package for ubuntu |
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| 08:50.46 | tachyons | wols, somiaj then sorry |
| 08:51.06 | tachyons | thanks for spending time for me |
| 08:53.21 | somiaj | best of luck |
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| 09:09.50 | pikaro | hi! has sid already transitioned to systemd? I can only find reports that it has been considered in october, and now my latest dist-upgrade wants to install it. if so, anything I need to know before dist-upgrading? |
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| 09:12.25 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | transitioned to systemd? something gnome must be pulling systemd in for you |
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| 09:13.21 | pikaro | ah crap... |
| 09:13.36 | Alina-malina | what is squeeze backports? what that phrase means? |
| 09:13.59 | pikaro | but yeah, seems that a complete switch to systemd or upstart is being discussed, according to various tech news sites |
| 09:14.10 | macrobat | !bpo |
| 09:14.10 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <wheezy backports>) and oldstable (<squeeze backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 09:14.17 | pikaro | ok thanks, hope I can find out what is causing this. |
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| 09:15.24 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | pikaro: complete switch to one of OpenRC, Upstart, systemd (for Linux) |
| 09:15.39 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | unlikely systemd by default |
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| 10:25.57 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | that much trouble only to get a working xfce4.10 in wheezy :< |
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| 10:27.31 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | doesn't debian have, like, immense infrastructure it could use also to automatically build backports of all possible packages? |
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| 10:30.59 | wols | building a DE backport is lots of work and pretty much never automatic. While debian could probably easily get enough hardware for buildserver and such, the problem is always manpower. never tech infrastructure |
| 10:31.13 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | that is, without maintainers having to check/double check/confirm/upload |
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| 10:31.18 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | what manpower is there? |
| 10:31.33 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | it's almost automated by apt-get --compile source |
| 10:31.59 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | it could easily backport every latest testing snapshot |
| 10:32.27 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | satisfying *-dev/et al. dependencies as it compiles them |
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| 10:32.49 | wols | "almost" only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades |
| 10:33.16 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | yeah, if only xdeb weren't so damn broken, it would be completely seamless |
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| 10:33.43 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | dare me to write a simple toolscript? :D |
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| 10:34.30 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | I can make a script that either compiles xfce4 binary with all dependencies (for example), or determines it impossible |
| 10:34.43 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | either way good enough for backports |
| 10:34.56 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | no? |
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| 10:36.42 | natsukao1 | hi |
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| 10:37.55 | natsukao1 | have you a distribution of GNU/linux Debian that can runs on ARMv7, so i don't use anymore that shit of Android on the tablet |
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| 10:39.13 | natsukao1 | i would to replace Android witha GNU/linux Debian, minimum of X, an the essential packages, at the moment i got a sd card 512mb |
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| 10:39.29 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | debian can run on ARM |
| 10:39.31 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | https://www.google.com/search?q=debian+on+android |
| 10:39.49 | natsukao1 | but i am interested to install not on sd card, but on the mobile phone |
| 10:39.56 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | currently, it runs as a (privileged) app using android kernel |
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| 10:40.11 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | uncharted waters |
| 10:40.12 | natsukao1 | not on android, but to replace android |
| 10:40.41 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | what will likely happen: your linux kernel is missing drivers for just about everything |
| 10:41.10 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | because google doesn't deliver upstream |
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| 10:42.02 | IlIlIlIlIlIlI | do write a blog post if you get to attempt it :) |
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| 10:42.50 | somiaj | http://www.debian.org/ports/ -- choose either the armel or armhf port. Sounds like you have a new enough cpu to use the armhf port. |
| 10:42.51 | natsukao1 | i installed 90% of packages necessary to have privilegies as super user |
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| 10:44.25 | natsukao1 | i installed: bosybox free; busybox installer; connectbot; f-droid; framaroot; OpenVPN ; Root Verifier; SuperSU; Terminal Emulator; VimTouch; Yaaic |
| 10:44.33 | metaphysician | ,pci 168c:0036 |
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| 10:46.00 | natsukao1 | chat Yaaic, helped me much, and for this i thank the Free Software Foundation, because the device was not i nterested to use google play, so thanks to them i could to use fdroid, where i found many packages to download |
| 10:46.10 | wols | natsukao1: you sure you are talking about debian? |
| 10:46.29 | natsukao1 | only this niht after 3/4 days, i found busybox, and i installed it |
| 10:46.38 | wols | natsukao1: how is this debian related? |
| 10:47.29 | natsukao1 | because i suppose there is the possibility to replace Android with Debian |
| 10:48.19 | wols | natsukao1: do you have an actual debian support problem/question? |
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| 10:49.26 | natsukao1 | i said: my intention is to port on my tablet, GNU/linux Debian, than use that piece of shit of Android |
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| 10:55.03 | natsukao1 | android on mobile phone works with *.apk |
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| 10:55.52 | natsukao1 | oing to replace Android with GNU/linux Debian i'll find with *.iso |
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| 11:00.45 | natsukao1 | in the past GNU/linux Debian team, did an installer for pc that was an *.exe, to replace simply windows, and when was asked the reboot it then provided to delete the data on the the hdd |
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| 11:02.27 | natsukao1 | i thibk that debian could do the same think for Android: a package *.apk, that then asks the reboot and provide to flash the mobile phone, and so will be available on the mobile phone GNU/linux Debian |
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| 11:03.16 | ffwalle | hi |
| 11:03.19 | ffwalle | i have a problem with 7zip sdk |
| 11:03.26 | ffwalle | here is my question... http://paste.pound-python.org/show/1k76YOvCK8K55hDsO6CB/ |
| 11:03.31 | ffwalle | here is my code http://paste.pound-python.org/show/AsQKNcrV23xQMfw5PlXV/ |
| 11:03.36 | ffwalle | but it's can not work |
| 11:03.42 | ffwalle | my test.7z password is 123456, i want to write c++ with 7zip sdk to decode it |
| 11:03.54 | nkuttler | ffwalle: why do you ask in #debian? |
| 11:03.54 | ffwalle | i dont know what wrong? |
| 11:04.10 | ffwalle | i think here are some programer :-) |
| 11:04.13 | ffwalle | join c++ |
| 11:04.32 | nkuttler | ffwalle: right, find a channel that's better suited.. |
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| 11:11.43 | evdo | i want to monitor my vps's UDP port which tool should i use? need some advice new to linux. |
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| 11:15.13 | natsukao1 | this was the installer of GNU/linux Debian from windows for pc i386 http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/stable/win32-loader.exe |
| 11:15.46 | babilen | natsukao1: Do you actually have a question? You seem to be making statements, but I have no idea why :) |
| 11:15.54 | natsukao1 | could be interesting an installer *.apk which replace android |
| 11:16.29 | babilen | natsukao1: AFAIK you can only install Debian in a chroot and not completely replace Android, but then I haven't looked into that in ages |
| 11:16.51 | natsukao1 | how to replace android |
| 11:16.55 | babilen | But then I would be quite surprised if I had missed that. |
| 11:17.01 | babilen | natsukao1: I don't know, ask # |
| 11:17.08 | babilen | #android |
| 11:17.23 | natsukao1 | ask to them ? |
| 11:17.44 | natsukao1 | those are interested to give support to android |
| 11:18.00 | natsukao1 | they are not interested to do replace android |
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| 11:18.34 | evdo | no answer? wrong time maybe, i will come back later, good day |
| 11:19.15 | natsukao1 | i tell you : have a good day |
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| 11:19.20 | natsukao1 | i go to sleep |
| 11:19.30 | natsukao1 | bye bye |
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| 11:21.23 | babilen | evdo: Try networking, there are, naturally, all the standard tools available to you (e.g. tcpdump, wireshark, …) |
| 11:21.33 | babilen | Err, ##networking that is :) |
| 11:22.05 | somiaj | iptraf is a curses interface you can watch trafic with |
| 11:22.25 | somiaj | seems there is a iptraf-ng (next gen) too |
| 11:23.10 | babilen | yeah, there are a bunch of tools, but I guess we have to have more detailed information on what evdo really wants to do -- still think that ##networking is a good channel to ask |
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| 11:28.00 | natsukao1 | an interesting program iptraf |
| 11:28.12 | natsukao1 | i nevver known before today |
| 11:28.34 | natsukao1 | i am sorry that is not possible to see which is traffic is done |
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| 11:42.52 | Richlv | any lintian maintainers here who could take a look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=729593 ? :) |
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| 11:46.47 | babilen | Richlv: No, but if it *really* has to be now try #debian-qa on irc.oftc.net |
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| 12:00.40 | katana- | hi |
| 12:01.02 | katana- | what functions could I use to make a program that types? (enters keypresses automatically) |
| 12:01.12 | katana- | or where should ask that, if he isn't appropriate? |
| 12:01.17 | katana- | here* |
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| 12:01.52 | lazare | I'm unable to do a Xorg -configure. It fails because it doesn't find /dev/fb0 |
| 12:02.10 | lazare | Which in turn cause other problems |
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| 12:03.02 | debian-davi | how can I add a option to open the terminal when I right click? |
| 12:03.22 | babilen | lazare: You don't want that anyway -- see <empty xorg.conf> and <xorg.conf.d> for details. (/msg dpkg empty xorg.conf) -- Which GPU do you have and what are you trying to do? |
| 12:03.27 | lazare | debian_lover: where? |
| 12:03.49 | lazare | babilen: nvm, i'm going back to Fedora/Ubuntu |
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| 12:05.08 | SweetMuffin | //msg dpkg empty xorg.conf |
| 12:05.09 | babilen | ... |
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| 12:06.30 | debian_lover | lazers, what? |
| 12:08.02 | babilen | katana-: There are tools such as xmacro, xautomation, xdotool, … |
| 12:08.09 | katana- | ah thank you |
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| 12:13.55 | hyper_ch | hmmmm, what could be the cause of a really long login time by ssh onto a debian server while cpu load is like 0.03 and ping is really good |
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| 12:15.01 | debian-davi | how can I add a option to open the terminal when I right click? |
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| 12:15.20 | zophy | right click what ? |
| 12:15.54 | debian-davi | right click in a folder |
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| 12:16.59 | zophy | you have to put a script in the nautilus directory, i'll find the web page that knows about this for you |
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| 12:21.05 | azswa | hi, is it possible to update gnome on debian |
| 12:21.12 | azswa | 7.3 |
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| 12:22.09 | zophy | debian-davi, here --> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-gnome-open-terminal-shell-prompt-here/ |
| 12:22.37 | jelly-home | azswa: not really |
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| 12:24.12 | zophy | it's really simple, i put an executable script in the ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts directory and i can execute it from the scripts selection from the right click menu |
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| 12:24.53 | zophy | it is very handy, there are a lot of other handy scripts |
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| 12:30.54 | Richlv | babilen, not really right now, just something i've been asking around for a long time :) |
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| 12:31.15 | Richlv | (yeah, i got to reporting it as a potential bug only later) |
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| 12:36.53 | pengunix | hi |
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| 12:37.35 | pengunix | What is best for providing a private debian repository for some deb files? |
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| 12:37.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell pengunix -about own repo |
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| 12:39.34 | evdo | i want to monitor some UDP port on my vps, which will be the best tool to accomplish this, need advice. |
| 12:39.45 | Kuba | dpkg: tell me about own repo |
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| 12:40.13 | azswa | jelly-home> shame... I just wanted to try gnome 3.8... anyone tried? |
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| 12:41.31 | babilen | azswa: It is available in testing and unstable, but will *never* make it into stable. Stable is stable after all (in the sense of "not changing") -- I wouldn't necessarily recommend to track a development release of Debian though as they come with their own set of idiosyncrasies, bugs and problems. |
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| 12:52.52 | azswa | babilen> thanks, I guess I'll just try it on a virtual machine |
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| 12:56.24 | babilen | azswa: Good idea :) |
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| 13:07.34 | xreal | Can I reset a crappy vserver installation (too many packages I don't need) to debian minimal somehow? |
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| 13:08.21 | ||David|| | So, I've got a few OpenVZ VPSs running wheezy from different providers, and they all come with all sorts of crap installed by default. Is there an easy way to purge _everything_ except the absolute necessary packages (like in the Debian installer when you un-tick everything in the package selection bit before installing GRUB)? |
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| 13:09.47 | xreal | ||David||: They're running X11 here :) |
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| 13:10.18 | jubo2 | I need to checl if OpenSSL is installed and if not to install it. Appologies for noobieizm |
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| 13:10.33 | ||David|| | xreal, what? |
| 13:10.46 | xreal | ||David||: I've got the same problem like you do! |
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| 13:10.54 | jubo2 | aptitude info openssl |
| 13:11.32 | ||David|| | xreal, oh, I see. Yeah, it's annoying. And the minimal images are almost always broken. I'm going to make a little Bash script to automate everything, so far got some of it done, just waiting to understand the best way to manage the question I asked above for bloat removal. |
| 13:11.53 | xreal | ||David||: I wonder who installed samba on my vserver :) |
| 13:12.10 | jubo2 | aptitude show openssl tells me it's installed |
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| 13:12.38 | xreal | ||David||: try "dpkg --get-selections | less" |
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| 13:12.55 | jubo2 | I go generate a brand new private key and a certificate signing request.. |
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| 13:13.15 | jubo2 | I get free SSL from my registrar with each domain :) |
| 13:13.19 | xreal | ||David||: and "dpkg --set selection" of course :) |
| 13:13.39 | ||David|| | Will look into it. |
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| 13:15.09 | xreal | ||David||: you could try "debfoster" and remove all packages. After that, reinstall ssh :) |
| 13:15.50 | ||David|| | aptitude can apparently do all that debfoster does. |
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| 13:16.57 | jelly-home | ||David||: some of the things they install might actually be important for the VPS to boot and run properly |
| 13:17.16 | ||David|| | jelly-home, not the case for this. I've done it all manually but I'd like to automate it. |
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| 13:17.25 | ||David|| | saslauthd, apache2, etc. not necessary. |
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| 13:17.42 | ||David|| | And given that most of my VMs have 64 MB of RAM, I'd like them to be rather lean. :p |
| 13:17.48 | jelly-home | ie. more than one openvz vps user has told here they got upstart installed |
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| 13:20.04 | evdo | jelly-home, hi, i want to monitor my vps's UDP port, what tool should i use? guide please. |
| 13:20.20 | nassaba | off-topic, but .. KVM it's better tahn OpenVZ |
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| 13:21.10 | jelly-home | evdo: udp is datagram-based. You will have to use something that talks the actual application protocol |
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| 13:21.23 | jelly-home | and see if there's a response |
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| 13:22.07 | ||David|| | nassaba, KVM is so much better. |
| 13:22.21 | ||David|| | But I've yet to see a 256 MB KVM for $9/year. ;) |
| 13:22.26 | jelly-home | nassaba: better for what? one's container-based, the other is full virtualization. They serve different purposes |
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| 13:22.49 | ||David|| | jelly-home, from a perspective of a customer that cares only for features and not the technology itself. |
| 13:23.03 | jelly-home | but they have different features |
| 13:23.30 | evdo | jelly-home, " something that talks the actual application protocol" example? |
| 13:23.39 | nassaba | ||David||: 1GB KVM, on blueVM, i think. look at offers, they are at 30$ year |
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| 13:25.14 | jelly-home | evdo: some app or library that talks to the service behind your udp port. |
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| 13:28.35 | jelly-home | evdo: eg. if you had a dns service based on udp, the monitoring tool would have to make a dns query and check for a valid reply |
| 13:28.56 | debian-davi | how can I burn a nrg file? |
| 13:29.53 | hid3 | Hello. Anyone use 'mpd' as a music player? I've isntalled it, specified the music directory and restarted the daemon. I still can't hear any audio output. Can someone help me please? I must be missing something |
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| 13:30.16 | evdo | jelly-home, is there any tool available to do that? |
| 13:30.48 | jelly-home | evdo: which service are you running? |
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| 13:32.25 | evdo | jelly-home, counter-strike gaming server |
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| 13:33.48 | jelly-home | evdo: you'll have to find a tool that can talk to it and verify it's alive |
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| 13:36.02 | filo3sofie | buona sera |
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| 13:36.46 | evdo | jelly-home, with my present linux skill its not possible, how to detect UDP flood? |
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| 13:38.21 | abrotman | evdo: we told you, talk to you provider |
| 13:38.55 | debian-davi | how can I burn a nrg file to DvD? |
| 13:39.17 | nassaba | k3b? |
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| 13:40.24 | dutchfish | debian-davi, nrg2iso |
| 13:40.43 | debian-davi | what is a good burning tool? |
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| 13:41.18 | nassaba | debian-davi: k3b |
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| 13:42.33 | filo3sofie | nrg image |
| 13:42.47 | dutchfish | debian-davi, there is also mountiso wich can mount nrg as well (loop mount) |
| 13:43.10 | debian-davi | I don't want to mount |
| 13:43.29 | dutchfish | debian-davi, there i sno tool to directly burn a nrg file |
| 13:43.42 | debian-davi | ok |
| 13:43.43 | abrotman | debian-davi: why do you need to burn an NRG file ? |
| 13:43.54 | debian-davi | Possibly I will have a nrg file instead of iso |
| 13:44.01 | Triku | nrg2iso can convert it. |
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| 13:55.09 | xreal | How can I get a list of the packages, which are in minimal ? |
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| 14:09.20 | jenia | what is it called when you want to specify that some package is to be installed from sid for example? |
| 14:09.25 | jenia | pacakge parking or someting? |
| 14:09.50 | abrotman | pinning? |
| 14:09.55 | abrotman | dpkg: tell jenia about ssb |
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| 14:10.11 | jenia | ye thanks |
| 14:10.14 | jenia | what is ssb? |
| 14:11.00 | abrotman | see what the bot told you, it's likely a better solution than pinning |
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| 14:11.20 | Cristatus | hey |
| 14:11.32 | Cristatus | how do i check which debian architecture i have installed/ |
| 14:11.33 | Cristatus | ? |
| 14:12.23 | dvs | Cristatusu: dpkg --print-architecture |
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| 14:12.46 | hid3 | uname -m |
| 14:12.59 | jelly-home | hid3: that's not definitive |
| 14:12.59 | Cristatusu | hmmm.... |
| 14:13.12 | dvs | hid3: That's the architecture of the kernel. |
| 14:13.28 | Cristatusu | print-architecture shows me that it is i386m and uname shows me that it's i686 |
| 14:13.40 | abrotman | Cristatusu: so you have the "i386" architecture |
| 14:14.12 | Cristatusu | which is what i would install on a Pentium 4, right? |
| 14:14.13 | abrotman | yes |
| 14:14.18 | abrotman | assuming the P4 does not support the amd64 instruction set |
| 14:14.19 | Cristatusu | i guess i should start from the beginning |
| 14:14.26 | Cristatusu | abrotman, it doesn't |
| 14:14.32 | abrotman | if you want ot know if your P4 supports x86_64, then ask that also :) |
| 14:14.34 | dvs | then it's right |
| 14:14.53 | jelly-home | even if it does, it's probably not worth the trouble |
| 14:14.57 | Cristatusu | abrotman, i wouldn't mind checking it |
| 14:15.00 | abrotman | prolly not |
| 14:15.15 | jelly-home | !lm |
| 14:15.16 | dpkg | [lm] "long mode" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_mode): grep -w lm /proc/cpuinfo |
| 14:15.17 | abrotman | Cristatusu: grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm |
| 14:15.30 | abrotman | or what the bot spit out |
| 14:15.37 | Cristatusu | i wanted to know why i kept getting the message "cannot execeute binary file" |
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| 14:15.59 | abrotman | Cristatusu: what is the binary file ? |
| 14:16.03 | franco987 | ciao |
| 14:16.10 | franco987 | !list |
| 14:16.10 | dpkg | franco987: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
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| 14:16.47 | Cristatusu | i386 |
| 14:16.53 | Cristatusu | wait... |
| 14:16.54 | Cristatusu | i mean |
| 14:16.59 | Cristatusu | nano |
| 14:17.09 | abrotman | what? |
| 14:17.15 | Cristatusu | the binary file is nano |
| 14:17.20 | abrotman | Cristatusu: use a pastebin, show us the command and the full output |
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| 14:17.35 | Cristatusu | i'm trying to edit something with nano, and it's not letting me, by giving me that error |
| 14:17.45 | Cristatusu | one sec, have to install IRC on the debian machine first... |
| 14:17.55 | Cristatusu | any suggestoins? |
| 14:18.01 | Cristatusu | one with a GUI |
| 14:18.07 | bazhang | xchat |
| 14:18.18 | Cristatusu | that's what i'm using on windows :D |
| 14:18.45 | Cristatusu | sudo aptitude install xchat |
| 14:18.46 | Cristatusu | right? |
| 14:18.49 | abrotman | sure |
| 14:18.57 | Cristatusu | (i'm coming from ubuntu) |
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| 14:19.33 | Cristatusu | so, sudo asks me for the password of my username, at which point i input the password |
| 14:20.05 | Cristatusu | then it says "[user] is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported" |
| 14:20.25 | abrotman | so use 'su' instead, use the root passwd |
| 14:20.51 | Cristatusu | "No passwd entry for user 'aptitude" |
| 14:21.11 | dvs | Cristatusu: su - aptitude ... |
| 14:21.32 | abrotman | eh .. no |
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| 14:21.48 | abrotman | Cristatusu: type 'su', then enter, then the root passwd, then then command to install software |
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| 14:22.20 | Cristatusu | abrotman, that worked |
| 14:22.29 | abrotman | of course it did! |
| 14:22.49 | Cristatusu | but now it says that it didn't find any package with that name |
| 14:22.54 | niteye | would it be possible to do a net-install remotely with zero physical input? i have a machine i would like to completely reinstall currently running oldstable, would it be possible to replace initial ramdisk with netinstall with ssh access, reboot and get going that way ? |
| 14:22.56 | Cristatusu | (i'm on a fresh install) |
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| 14:23.15 | dvs | Cristatusu: What package? |
| 14:23.22 | abrotman | suspects bad sources.list |
| 14:23.54 | abrotman | niteye: like a preseed debootstrap ? |
| 14:24.16 | nassaba | Cristatusu: apt-get update && apt-cache search xchat |
| 14:24.17 | niteye | i dont know what preseed debootstrap means so ill answer 'maybe' to that |
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| 14:24.50 | Cristatusu | dvs, x-chat |
| 14:24.56 | abrotman | xchat |
| 14:24.56 | Cristatusu | i'm going to try what nassaba said |
| 14:25.02 | abrotman | it is not 'x-chat' |
| 14:25.07 | dvs | ,v xchat |
| 14:25.08 | judd | Package: xchat on i386 -- squeeze: 2.8.8-3; wheezy: 2.8.8-7.1; jessie: 2.8.8-7.1+b1; sid: 2.8.8-7.1+b1 |
| 14:25.13 | dvs | no dash |
| 14:25.29 | Cristatusu | even without the dash it gave me the same message |
| 14:25.39 | OsteHovel | niteye: That is a preconfigured script for debootstrap that installs debian the way its specified in the script that you modify, so there will be no questions or need for input on the machine (or that up to the guy modifying the script) |
| 14:25.41 | dvs | suspects abrotman is right |
| 14:25.49 | bazhang | sounds like sources.list are not updated |
| 14:25.57 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Cristatusu about wheezy sources.list |
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| 14:26.24 | bazhang | is hexchat available in debian? |
| 14:26.28 | niteye | mm so i take yes in theory its possible (as long as i dont mess it up and practice with a virtual machine first) |
| 14:26.35 | OsteHovel | niteye: But i warn you it might work, but it may go to H*ll if something is configured wrong or some files missing, and that sucks if you dont have physical access to it then... |
| 14:26.35 | dvs | ,v hexchat |
| 14:26.37 | judd | No package named 'hexchat' was found in i386. |
| 14:26.43 | bazhang | thanks! |
| 14:27.17 | OsteHovel | niteye: But yea i suggest practice in a VM first |
| 14:27.35 | niteye | i have physical access (sort of), its a raspberry pi but getting it out of the closet and connecting the serial port is effort id rather avoid |
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| 14:27.46 | adas | I need help with minidlna |
| 14:27.57 | OsteHovel | and make sure when you gonna do it live, that your network drivers are included in the installer if you do a "network" install.... becouse i burned myself on that one before.. |
| 14:28.01 | abrotman | adas: with what? |
| 14:28.17 | adas | I have created different folders for different series, but on my TV all the series are in the same folder called "Videos", I want to seperate them, how do I do this? |
| 14:28.54 | niteye | is there a folder calld "PC directory" visible on the TV? |
| 14:29.28 | adas | no |
| 14:29.40 | adas | only Music Pictures Video |
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| 14:30.46 | niteye | i dont know minidlna, but personally i use 'mediatomb', also in the debian repository, and next to Videos,Music, etc it also shows the directory tree as it is physically on the server |
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| 14:34.36 | dutchfish | adas, there should also be a folder browsing option on your tv when connected to minidlna |
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| 14:34.56 | dutchfish | adas, thats prolly want you want |
| 14:35.23 | dutchfish | adas, thats prolly what you want |
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| 14:36.04 | adas | dutchfish: theres a "Browse Folders" folder and inside it are all videos |
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| 14:36.39 | dutchfish | adas, well, arent it videos, then choose something else from the main menu and then browse folders |
| 14:36.39 | niteye | the contents of "browse folders" or "PC directory" sometimes called, is completely governed by the DLNA server it seems |
| 14:37.25 | adas | i think I know what I need to do |
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| 14:37.54 | dutchfish | adas, you have to configure minidlna the right way, iow pictures, music, videos need dif config lines |
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| 14:38.34 | dutchfish | adas, take peak at the example files |
| 14:38.46 | dutchfish | adas, gl |
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| 14:39.04 | axel_foley | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:42.24 | dutchfish | axel_foley, take a peak at /etc/skel |
| 14:42.38 | dutchfish | axel_foley, also http://userbase.kde.org/Tutorials/Modify_KDE_Software_Defaults |
| 14:43.15 | axel_foley | dutchfish, thank you. Will take now a look |
| 14:43.27 | dutchfish | axel_foley, yw |
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| 14:47.29 | Cristatusu | abrotman, thanks, that sorted everything out |
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| 14:48.07 | abrotman | good to hear |
| 14:48.51 | Cristatusu | ,v plex |
| 14:48.52 | judd | No package named 'plex' was found in i386. |
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| 14:51.50 | Cristatusu | does anyone have any problems running plex on Debian Wheezy |
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| 14:52.37 | abrotman | Plex isn't in Debian |
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| 14:53.11 | Cristatusu | i know it isn't in Debian, which is why I'm asking |
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| 14:53.26 | abrotman | would think plex would have a support channel |
| 14:54.01 | abrotman | Cristatusu: #plex |
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| 14:54.53 | debian-davi | how can I replace GNOME, I want KDE |
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| 14:55.19 | abrotman | debian-davi: so install kde-full, then remove gnome |
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| 14:55.30 | vapor | debian-davi: you install KDE, then at boot, you should be able to choose which desktop |
| 14:55.30 | pengunix | hi |
| 14:55.52 | debian-davi | abrotman: how can I remove gnome clearly? |
| 14:56.01 | pengunix | So can I put some CA certificates on a blacklist in debian? Or isn't there such a feature? When I created a self-signed certificate and I want to use a new one, I want to block the old one (before expiry). |
| 14:56.47 | abrotman | debian-davi: worry about installing KDE first |
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| 14:57.20 | debian-davi | install KDM --> install KDE-full --> reboot? |
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| 14:57.56 | vapor | why remove GNOME? |
| 14:58.46 | debian-davi | I want KDE :| |
| 14:58.49 | nassaba | debian-davi: apt-get install task-kde-desktop |
| 14:59.06 | nassaba | why install GNOME? |
| 14:59.25 | dvs | nassaba: It's the default desktop environment |
| 14:59.30 | dvs | ...for now |
| 14:59.45 | nassaba | I know |
| 14:59.53 | debian-davi | I forgot to install KDE when I could in the netinst |
| 14:59.56 | debian-davi | that's why |
| 15:00.08 | dvs | nassaba: So people don't know that "Desktop Environment" means GNOME |
| 15:00.15 | pengunix | I just installed jenkins and I saw how many new CA certs were added to my system. Is there a blacklist with suspicious CAs on the net? |
| 15:00.24 | vapor | there isnt a reason to delete GNOME though |
| 15:00.42 | nassaba | vapor: maybe space |
| 15:01.09 | debian-davi | I did "apt-get install task-kde-desktop kde-plasma-desktop kdm" |
| 15:01.24 | vapor | well either way, just "aptitude install kde-full" |
| 15:01.34 | vapor | go root first obviously |
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| 15:01.51 | nassaba | kde-full is so "full" |
| 15:02.06 | vapor | lol |
| 15:02.21 | dvs | nassaba: kde-full is not necesary if you already installed task-kde-desktop |
| 15:02.26 | jelly-home | !install kde |
| 15:02.26 | dpkg | The 'kde-standard' package gets you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and 'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > KDE > Install". |
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| 15:02.52 | vapor | dpkg: good point, you are right |
| 15:02.52 | dpkg | vapor: I think you lost me on that one |
| 15:03.06 | vapor | dpkg: what do you mean |
| 15:03.07 | dpkg | I mean what I mean! |
| 15:03.11 | abrotman | leave the bot alone |
| 15:03.48 | r00t-err0r | can i install kde over gnome ? |
| 15:04.00 | r00t-err0r | in wheezy |
| 15:04.04 | nassaba | sorry? |
| 15:04.06 | dvs | r00t-err0r: You can install both at the same tim.e |
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| 15:04.19 | r00t-err0r | cause when i try to apt-get install kde-full, fails |
| 15:04.34 | dvs | r00t-err0r: What's the error message? |
| 15:04.40 | vapor | try kde-standard...be specific about what you mean by "fails" |
| 15:04.47 | abrotman | ... |
| 15:04.50 | r00t-err0r | mhm |
| 15:04.54 | r00t-err0r | no error msg now :D |
| 15:04.56 | r00t-err0r | hahahaha |
| 15:05.16 | nassaba | o_O |
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| 15:05.30 | r00t-err0r | i try yesterday and i got something, no package something |
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| 15:05.51 | Jazayri | ALL: Good afternoon, debian users |
| 15:06.07 | r00t-err0r | good afternoon ;) |
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| 15:08.32 | gueust43563 | how to play quicktime? |
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| 15:10.40 | r00t-err0r | gueust43563, try totem-mozzila |
| 15:11.16 | gueust43563 | I saw in ubuntu there is w64codecs package |
| 15:11.22 | r00t-err0r | or if you enable non-free |
| 15:11.23 | r00t-err0r | yes |
| 15:11.28 | r00t-err0r | use w64codecs or w32codecs |
| 15:11.39 | gueust43563 | whre is it? |
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| 15:12.15 | abrotman | those codec packages aren't needed anymore |
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| 15:13.38 | vapor | what file type are you trying to play |
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| 15:15.32 | gueust43563 | quicktime |
| 15:15.41 | gueust43563 | its a stream I think |
| 15:15.46 | gueust43563 | i m not sure |
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| 15:22.48 | debian-davi | I installed kde |
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| 15:23.01 | debian-davi | do I need to reboot to get to it? |
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| 15:23.26 | dvs | debian-davi: You need to logout and change the preferences on the login screen. |
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| 15:26.24 | axel_foley | /etc/skel does not really change the kde theme?! |
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| 15:27.07 | axel_foley | I hate the default neptune OS theme and fonts and want the debains default theme! |
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| 15:28.32 | debian-davi | Got KDE |
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| 15:28.37 | debian-davi | now just need some more eyecandy |
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| 15:30.54 | jdoles | I have an encrypted harddisk, but now suddently grub says that some disk is no longer present (which is bullshit, unless I got a visit from the NSA). |
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| 15:31.14 | jdoles | It asks me where it should install grub again. |
| 15:31.23 | abrotman | or the HDD died? |
| 15:31.33 | jdoles | abrotman: the chance of that happening is zero in this case. |
| 15:31.48 | debian-davi | grub-mkconfig perhaps? |
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| 15:32.01 | jdoles | I am in one of those choice windows. |
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| 15:32.15 | jdoles | (with a curses interface) |
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| 15:32.29 | axel_foley | dutchfish, how change the default themes? I removed all files in /etc/skel and it got no effect on default theme |
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| 15:32.54 | abrotman | oh, your hardware is special, never dies .. got it |
| 15:32.56 | jdoles | I can also install it to all three devices; one is /dev/sda, anohter is /dev/sda1/ (/boot) and another is /dev/dm-1 |
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| 15:33.05 | dvs | shoots the hardware |
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| 15:33.51 | jelly-home | jdoles: a boot loader is typically installed to physical disk |
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| 15:33.51 | jelly-home | so, just /dev/sda |
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| 15:34.23 | jdoles | Can someone say something which helps, instead of saying non-sensical things like that the hardware is broken (which it is not)? |
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| 15:35.08 | jdoles | jelly-home: is there any way to not install it on a physical disk? |
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| 15:35.23 | jelly-home | jdoles: but be able to boot nevertheless? No |
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| 15:35.52 | jdoles | jelly-home: what would happen if I would have installed it to all three devices? |
| 15:36.00 | jdoles | jelly-home: would I have destroyed most of my data? |
| 15:36.11 | jdoles | I.e. encrypted FS breakage, etc. |
| 15:36.33 | jelly-home | jdoles: that's quite possible yes. I don't know where luks metadata is sotred exactly |
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| 15:37.23 | jelly-home | jdoles: what is the problem you're trying to solve by avoiding to make changes to sda boot sector? |
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| 15:37.42 | jdoles | jelly-home: all I did was apt-get upgrade. |
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| 15:38.01 | jdoles | jelly-home: in return I got a problem instead of upgraded versions. |
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| 15:38.23 | jdoles | Let's just say that if this had been an Apple computer, that someone would have lost his job now. |
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| 15:38.47 | jdoles | I am not saying that Apple is any good; it's just that this particular event should have never ever happened. |
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| 15:39.49 | jelly-home | jdoles: best keep to technical support strictly. Ranting does not help fixing the issue at hand. If this is a Linux-only machine, reinstalling grub to /dev/sda if you used grub previously should not make things any worse. |
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| 15:40.11 | jdoles | Another problem is that my mouse cursor doesn't work now after a wakeup. |
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| 15:40.18 | teraflops | 7quit |
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| 15:40.35 | jdoles | I.e. suspend, not hibernate. |
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| 15:40.44 | dvs | !exit |
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| 15:41.08 | jelly-home | jdoles: is it an usb device? |
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| 15:41.38 | jdoles | jelly-home: it's one of those synaptics things on a laptop. |
| 15:41.45 | jdoles | jelly-home: (yes) |
| 15:42.05 | jelly-home | oh, that makes is impossible to unplug and plug back |
| 15:42.18 | jdoles | I think /dev/input/mice does work, but it's just that it's not getting rendered. |
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| 15:42.53 | jelly-home | sometimes, switching to console (ctrl-alt-f1) and back to X (typically ctrk-alt-f7) restores input devices for X |
| 15:43.13 | jdoles | jelly-home: cat /dev/input/mice did not output anything. |
| 15:43.20 | jdoles | jelly-home: I had already tried that. |
| 15:43.25 | jdoles | jelly-home: I think I just have to reboot. |
| 15:43.43 | jdoles | gpm (general pur. mouse) also doesn't work/ |
| 15:43.53 | jdoles | (which makes sense given the above data) |
| 15:44.03 | jelly-home | jdoles: I don't know whether "cat /dev/input/mice" is supposed to output stuff when a mouse is moved, sorry |
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| 15:44.10 | jdoles | jelly-home: it is. |
| 15:44.25 | jdoles | jelly-home: you can try it yourself, if you want. Just "reset" your terminal afterwards. |
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| 15:45.20 | jelly-home | yes, that seems a reasonable behavior |
| 15:45.22 | jdoles | Ok, since apparently everyone is out of ideas or not willing to help me, I will just restart the **** thing. |
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| 15:45.33 | jdoles | Thanks for your help jelly-home. |
| 15:45.48 | r00t-err0r | i try KDE now, i hate Windows simular UI :D so KDE sucks :) |
| 15:45.54 | r00t-err0r | how to install XFCE ? |
| 15:45.54 | r00t-err0r | :D |
| 15:45.58 | jelly-home | !install xfce |
| 15:46.04 | r00t-err0r | oo tnx :D |
| 15:46.08 | r00t-err0r | !install xfce |
| 15:46.10 | jelly-home | dselect: install xfce |
| 15:46.10 | dselect | To install <Xfce> on established systems, ask me about <install x>, then: «aptitude install xfce4 xfce4-goodies» To install using Debian-Installer (if not using Xfce CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > Xfce > Install". |
| 15:46.12 | dvs | omg |
| 15:46.23 | jdoles | I don't like that I can have multiple users logged on at the same time via xfce4.\ |
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| 15:46.33 | jdoles | If that would be possible, that would save me some issues. |
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| 15:46.52 | jdoles | Yes, I know one could use Control-Alt-FX. |
| 15:46.54 | jelly-home | can't? |
| 15:47.05 | jdoles | jelly-home: not in its default configuration at least. |
| 15:47.12 | axel_foley | dutchfish, default themes are at /usr/share/kde.... |
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| 15:47.23 | jdoles | When I found it out, I was rather... uhm... OK..whatever. |
| 15:47.32 | r00t-err0r | i still think that GNOME is the best UI :D |
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| 15:47.43 | jdoles | I think they all stink in various ways. |
| 15:47.52 | dvs | !start a de war |
| 15:47.52 | dpkg | GNOME sucks! |
| 15:47.58 | dvs | you bet! |
| 15:48.00 | r00t-err0r | lol |
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| 15:48.09 | r00t-err0r | dvs, what you use? |
| 15:48.13 | dvs | KDE |
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| 15:48.15 | abrotman | !ot |
| 15:48.15 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 15:48.36 | r00t-err0r | oh sry abrotman :( |
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| 15:49.09 | debian-davi | !start a wm war |
| 15:49.09 | dpkg | fluxbox sucks! |
| 15:49.20 | abrotman | please stop |
| 15:49.39 | r00t-err0r | stop, use #debian-offtopic please, i understand what abrotman says |
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| 15:50.32 | jdoles | jelly-home: rebooting worked. |
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| 15:51.03 | jdoles | Does anyone have the full NSA list with compromised hardware? |
| 15:51.29 | jdoles | Der Spiegel was talking about 50 pages or so. If we have "free press", then where is it? |
| 15:51.43 | abrotman | ask google, not #debian |
| 15:51.44 | jelly-home | eh, ask Der Spiegel? |
| 15:52.36 | tensorpudding | I'm trying to migrate my lighttpd configuration from one machine to another, both running wheezy. |
| 15:52.52 | tensorpudding | I copied over everything so far as I can tell. |
| 15:53.14 | tensorpudding | But when I try to start lighttpd on the new machine, it fails to start, with a problem that it can't read the pidfile. |
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| 15:53.57 | jelly-home | tensorpudding: permissions and ownerships of stuff under /var? |
| 15:53.58 | tensorpudding | The file exists, the file is readable, but not writable by the www-data process. |
| 15:54.12 | jelly-home | directories included |
| 15:54.15 | tensorpudding | The permissions are the same as on the machine where lighttpd works. |
| 15:54.31 | tensorpudding | The permissions are the same for /var, /var/run/, and /var/run/lighttpd.pid |
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| 15:55.03 | jelly-home | it's not supposed to be writable for www-data in /var/run, that's fine |
| 15:55.08 | debian-davi | :D |
| 15:55.11 | tensorpudding | I'm looking at the strace now. |
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| 15:56.19 | darkblue_b | hmm since it is the process file, not the data, it suggests the way you installed lightppd and the way it was started, no? |
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| 15:57.24 | tensorpudding | The way I installed lighttpd? |
| 15:57.33 | tensorpudding | I installed it the normal way. |
| 15:57.40 | bony | is there a way to configure debian only to send mail? I mean there are a lot tutorial and howtos how configuring postfix or exim4. But these are MTA's and i just want to send mail that's all. so that any program which wants to send mails will send them. I think for this mta is not required. |
| 15:57.54 | tensorpudding | The way I attempted to start it was using the initfiles, so start-stop-daemon |
| 15:58.34 | tensorpudding | Also it was working before I copied the configs. |
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| 16:01.34 | FreezingCold | How hard is it to switch from 32-bit to 64-bit? |
| 16:01.45 | debian-davi | reinstall? |
| 16:01.52 | tensorpudding | open("/var/run/lighttpd.pid", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, 0644) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) |
| 16:01.53 | jelly-home | FreezingCold: a reinstallation isn't that hard |
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| 16:02.01 | tensorpudding | Seems to be the problem line. |
| 16:02.01 | FreezingCold | I guess |
| 16:02.51 | darkblue_b | some process is downloading a lot of data.. whats a good way to find which one ? |
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| 16:03.08 | darkblue_b | I can see with ifconfig that the new data is coming into eth0 |
| 16:03.08 | tensorpudding | Can someone familiar with strace output parse this line and explain what it means? |
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| 16:03.12 | niteye | netstat -t -p will show the active connections and their process |
| 16:03.13 | jelly-home | tensorpudding: which debian release is this? lighttpd init script ought to create a subdir... |
| 16:03.23 | jelly-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.23 | jelly-home | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.23 | jelly-home | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:03.45 | tensorpudding | A subdir there does exist. |
| 16:03.52 | jelly-home | tensorpudding: is the pid file directly in /var/run on both machines? |
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| 16:04.05 | jelly-home | (it ought to be in the subdir) |
| 16:04.22 | tensorpudding | jelly-home: The pidfile is specified in the config that I copied. |
| 16:04.36 | tensorpudding | And it's /var/run/lighttpd.pid |
| 16:04.47 | jelly-home | tensorpudding: are you sure the config is valid? |
| 16:04.49 | niteye | darkblue_b: with netstat -tp you will see all active TCP connections (and if you are root, the process using the connection), it doesnt tell you the amount of data but it might give you more clues |
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| 16:05.14 | tensorpudding | jelly-home: It is working on the other machine, so for some definition of "valid" it certainly is. |
| 16:05.16 | niteye | darkblue_b: also tcpdump will show the packets being received/sent, giving you more clues |
| 16:05.18 | jelly-home | tensorpudding: can you stop and start the service on the working machine? |
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| 16:05.42 | tensorpudding | jelly-home: Yes. |
| 16:05.44 | jelly-home | tensorpudding: more precisely, stop the service, rm the pid file, try to start it |
| 16:06.02 | darkblue_b | hmm its an open copy of kdesvn.. I wonder what it is doing |
| 16:06.09 | tensorpudding | When I stop the service, the pidfile is removed. |
| 16:06.13 | jelly-home | good |
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| 16:06.41 | jelly-home | tensorpudding: and /var/run isn't o+w on the working machine by any chance? |
| 16:07.14 | tensorpudding | /var/run is 0777 on both machines. |
| 16:07.27 | tensorpudding | Err, wait, damn. |
| 16:07.35 | tensorpudding | Since when was /var/run a symlink to /run |
| 16:07.37 | jelly-home | that's not good |
| 16:07.51 | jelly-home | since ... wheezyish |
| 16:08.10 | tensorpudding | I wasn't paying close enough attention to the output of stat |
| 16:08.31 | tensorpudding | They are both 0755 owned by root |
| 16:09.10 | tensorpudding | So www-data can't create files...but that's not a problem, the initscript is supposed to create /var/run/lighttpd.pid as far as I can tell. |
| 16:10.05 | jelly-home | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6 Dec 29 17:09 /var/run/lighttpd.pid # lighttpd is still root at pidfile creation time, here |
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| 16:13.03 | jelly-home | (and it works) |
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| 16:13.24 | tensorpudding | Huh. |
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| 16:13.35 | tensorpudding | I tried running strace on the working machine to compare the results. |
| 16:13.53 | tensorpudding | If I try starting lighttpd from www-data directly it has the same problem. |
| 16:14.01 | tensorpudding | But running it from the initscript does work. |
| 16:14.13 | tensorpudding | It doesn't work either way in the new machine. |
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| 16:38.12 | TheFlipside | i love debian |
| 16:39.51 | niteye | i tihnk everyone in this channel does |
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| 16:40.42 | TheFlipside | hey how much of a chance is there of a release of a new nvidia driver release on the non-free repos within the next 3 months? |
| 16:41.13 | abrotman | for which version of Debian ? |
| 16:41.30 | TheFlipside | wheezy |
| 16:41.35 | debian-davi | why can't you use current noveau? |
| 16:41.54 | TheFlipside | i need a supported driver for the gta 780 |
| 16:41.57 | TheFlipside | *gtx |
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| 16:50.47 | zophy | is it possible to compile a linux kernel on an openbsd platform ? |
| 16:51.12 | zophy | compile it for a different computer |
| 16:51.21 | TheFlipside | yay crosscompile |
| 16:51.42 | _zxq9_ | should be. Just be careful the binary store is the same (endianness, and all that) |
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| 16:56.56 | abrotman | zophy: just try it? |
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| 17:02.19 | TheFlipside | hey where can i contribute to debian with Flattr? |
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| 17:03.20 | abrotman | TheFlipside: I think you donate to SPI directly |
| 17:03.35 | TheFlipside | but i only have flattr |
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| 17:04.16 | TheFlipside | i'm already donating 10€ / month to the GNU project, is that cool already? |
| 17:04.54 | abrotman | sure |
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| 17:07.27 | aluali | I installed debian stable with nvidia driver from wheezy-backports (319 support my new card) and I get a blackscreen. |
| 17:08.29 | aluali | I installed linux-headers xorg nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-xconfig then I did run #nvidia-xconfig |
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| 17:09.30 | aluali | before I was using the nvidia driver from the web site (cause 319 was not even in sid) and I had no problem, anyone can help please |
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| 17:16.23 | abrotman | blinks .. |
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| 17:18.23 | zophy | zophy |
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| 17:19.16 | zophy | how can the server be unknown |
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| 17:20.47 | zophy | uses the Machete Kills Linux Distro |
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| 17:23.39 | TheFlipside | the machete kills distro? sounds inferior to the PonyOS |
| 17:23.52 | abrotman | points at #debian-offtopic |
| 17:24.14 | ramm3 | I can't install some programs in Debian. I get a "No protocol specified Error: Can't open display: :0" message |
| 17:24.26 | debian-davi | wait wait |
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| 17:24.51 | debian-davi | run export DISPLAY=:0.0 |
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| 17:25.11 | debian-davi | ramm3: Try "export DISPLAY=:0.0" in a terminal |
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| 17:26.17 | jhutchins | !contribute |
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| 17:26.45 | ramm3 | debian-davi: i'mi running it as sudo. i googled and it says sudo can't access display or something.. |
| 17:27.00 | jhutchins | !donate |
| 17:27.00 | dpkg | If you like Debian and are able to donate hardware, services or money, please do so. See http://www.debian.org/donations and http://www.spi-inc.org/donations |
| 17:27.04 | abrotman | ... |
| 17:27.13 | ramm3 | debian-davi: i get the same error anyway |
| 17:27.21 | abrotman | assumes jhutchins is caught in the scrollback again |
| 17:27.32 | jhutchins | TheFlipside: That or tell flattr you want to contribute to Debian. |
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| 17:27.51 | TheFlipside | debian has a flattr account? |
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| 17:28.01 | abrotman | no .. so i have no idea why jhutchins would suggest that |
| 17:28.04 | jhutchins | TheFlipside: No, flattr needs to set one up. |
| 17:28.07 | abrotman | oh, yes, I do |
| 17:28.32 | abrotman | ramm3: pastebin the command and the output |
| 17:29.26 | ramm3 | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/NrrGsMa7 |
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| 17:30.18 | abrotman | ramm3: try sux |
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| 17:31.48 | ramm3 | abrotman: sux? |
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| 17:32.17 | abrotman | ramm3: use 'sux' or 'gksu' or 'gksudo' |
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| 17:33.47 | ramm3 | abrotman: same |
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| 17:35.26 | abrotman | same what? |
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| 17:35.37 | abrotman | ramm3: again, pastebin |
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| 17:37.06 | ramm3 | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/y8JjscPg |
| 17:37.43 | jhutchins | ,versions squirrelmail |
| 17:37.45 | judd | Package: squirrelmail on i386 -- squeeze: 2:1.4.21-2; squeeze-security: 2:1.4.21-2; jessie: 2:1.4.23~svn20120406-2; sid: 2:1.4.23~svn20120406-2; wheezy: 2:1.4.23~svn20120406-2; experimental: 2:1.5.1-5 |
| 17:37.45 | abrotman | ramm3: run that command as a normal user, not root |
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| 17:40.39 | debian-davi | Can anyone explain dpkg abuse? |
| 17:40.52 | ramm3 | abrotman: i did and it asks to install libraries which i already have installed. |
| 17:40.52 | ramm3 | abrotman: It pops a message saying FUSE library and tools and device mapper tools are required but I have them installe. |
| 17:41.15 | abrotman | ramm3: again .. patsebin |
| 17:41.17 | abrotman | pastebin |
| 17:41.21 | xomrk | i testing dns tell me if http://bolo.sub.cat/ is loading should run wordpress blog |
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| 17:42.09 | tensorpudding | jelly-home: Thanks for your help earlier, I got lighttpd working. I didn't realize it was leaving junk in the error.log file, that helped a bit. It was failing for a different reason, related to fcgi. |
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| 17:46.10 | ramm3 | abrotman: http://imgur.com/SVcHx4M |
| 17:48.09 | abrotman | ramm3: apt-cache search fuse .. look for some libraries? |
| 17:48.16 | abrotman | ramm3: wait .. |
| 17:48.44 | abrotman | ramm3: eh, nevermind, I thought truecrypt was in the repositories, bu I don't see it there |
| 17:50.26 | ramm3 | abrotman: I even tried compiling it from source but I didn't work for me.. |
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| 17:59.41 | ramm3 | abrotman: already installed those libraries in synaptic |
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| 18:02.31 | ws2k3 | Hello i'm having an issue i just got a new server with debian 7.3 but i cant use cpu frequancy scaling |
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| 18:03.10 | ws2k3 | the issue seems related that there is a driver called intel_pstate and in my debian 7.2(where it worked) is using driver acpi-cpufreq |
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| 18:05.47 | aFeijo | hi guys, I have a problem in my fstab file, so the boot wont finish! What can I do? Its a remove VPS on digitalocean.com |
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| 18:10.30 | av0idz | good evening to you all |
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| 18:11.44 | av0idz | well im hanging around for hours now on creating debian live builds, i dont know or im stuck at the --bootappend-live "...." parameters ... |
| 18:12.02 | av0idz | is there an list anywhere or where can i find what parameters are correct for the debian kernel ? |
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| 18:12.08 | aFeijo | hi guys, I have a problem in my fstab file, so the boot wont finish! What can I do? Its a remove VPS on digitalocean.com |
| 18:12.13 | av0idz | it seems to like there is no documentation about it anywhere |
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| 18:16.15 | ws2k3 | how can i reboot my server with a extra boot parameter |
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| 18:20.33 | aFeijo | I added a line to mount my www.box.com account using webdav, when I boot the server it asks for user and password, but it wont go thru it and the server never finish booting!!! |
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| 18:20.34 | ws2k3 | how can i reboot my server with a extra boot parameter |
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| 18:21.41 | Wafic | Hi |
| 18:21.42 | Wafic | am having a problem installing php-curl on my system am getting this http://pastebin.com/BVQH3KZX |
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| 18:22.22 | DelphiWorld | hey people |
| 18:22.28 | DelphiWorld | if i am doing scp from a pc to another |
| 18:22.36 | DelphiWorld | and port 22 is not default |
| 18:22.39 | DelphiWorld | how to specify port? |
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| 18:23.14 | DelphiWorld | mmmm |
| 18:23.15 | petemc | -P 8888 |
| 18:23.16 | DelphiWorld | -P not -p... |
| 18:23.24 | axel_foley | would anybody recommend neptune OS? its based on debian, only new kernel and newer kde |
| 18:23.28 | petemc | you can put an entry in .ssh/hosts as well |
| 18:24.30 | petemc | or maybe its .ssh/config |
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| 18:27.16 | mtn | axel_foley: no, use debian of course ;) |
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| 18:27.56 | axel_foley | a newer kde would be nice. but i hate unstable soft. |
| 18:28.12 | ws2k3 | how can i set my cpu frequancy with the new intel_pstate driver ? |
| 18:28.34 | rryoumaa | axel_foley: is the kernel you desire in backports? |
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| 18:29.39 | axel_foley | rryoumaa, I use a default installation. |
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| 18:30.53 | abrotman | axel_foley: this is #debian, we support Debian here |
| 18:30.54 | rryoumaa | axel_foley: you can try "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib" |
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| 18:31.06 | rryoumaa | or similar |
| 18:31.21 | DelphiWorld | scp -p 1022 Azkar-Introduction.flac root@myHOSTName:root |
| 18:31.24 | DelphiWorld | is that correct? |
| 18:31.28 | axel_foley | abrotman, yes I got debian! ;-) |
| 18:31.30 | ramm3 | I get this error when I try to install this program even though I have the libraries : http://imgur.com/SVcHx4M |
| 18:31.31 | DelphiWorld | is saying root dont exist... hmmmmm |
| 18:31.50 | rryoumaa | axel_foley: do you know about /etc/apt/sources.list: |
| 18:31.53 | rryoumaa | ? |
| 18:31.56 | ws2k3 | how can i add a boot parameter in debian |
| 18:32.02 | abrotman | DelphiWorld: do you understand what you're doing with that command ? |
| 18:32.17 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: i'm sending a file from a host to another? |
| 18:32.29 | abrotman | DelphiWorld: I meant, the whole command :) |
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| 18:32.47 | DelphiWorld | -p 1022 is chousing the port |
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| 18:33.08 | axel_foley | rryoumaa, my http://pastebin.com/HLeF9g1P |
| 18:33.11 | DelphiWorld | and filename... and root@MyHostNAME is the path, no? (:root) is specify the folder |
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| 18:33.14 | axel_foley | sources |
| 18:33.14 | DelphiWorld | right abrotman? |
| 18:33.37 | Dry_Lips | Hi... Can anyone on Wheezy pastebin /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf for me? |
| 18:33.38 | abrotman | DelphiWorld: does that folder exist in that user's home directory on the remote system ? |
| 18:33.44 | abrotman | Dry_Lips: what's wrong with yours? |
| 18:33.52 | DelphiWorld | yeah, :root or :import dont work |
| 18:34.03 | abrotman | DelphiWorld: you still didn't answer the question .. |
| 18:34.05 | DelphiWorld | both exist, but :root exist, and import is in /root |
| 18:34.08 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: scp is hacky, P in "scp -P port ..." is uppercase |
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| 18:34.25 | Dry_Lips | abrotman: trying to set a custom background image, but it won't work and I don't remember the name and path of the default pic |
| 18:34.35 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: ask the question:P |
| 18:34.44 | abrotman | Dry_Lips: did you look in the docs, /usr/share/doc/lightdm/ perhaps |
| 18:34.48 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: probably easier to put the port in ~/.ssh/config |
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| 18:35.30 | DelphiWorld | scp -p 1022 Azkar-Introduction.flac root@airtime.meHERE.com |
| 18:35.35 | DelphiWorld | will that put it in root? |
| 18:35.36 | Dry_Lips | abrotman: there's not anything in the docs |
| 18:35.55 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: yeah -P :P |
| 18:36.00 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: in / or in /root (root user's $HOME)? |
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| 18:36.19 | DelphiWorld | jelly: no, root $HOME (^) |
| 18:36.30 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: scp defaults to user's HOME, and all relative paths are relative to that |
| 18:36.45 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: so scp file user@server: is enough |
| 18:36.53 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: and should i use "/import" or ":import"? |
| 18:37.02 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: what import, now? |
| 18:37.08 | abrotman | DelphiWorld: hence my question to you if that folder exists in the user's remote home dir |
| 18:37.15 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: i want to put it in a folder called "import" |
| 18:37.25 | DelphiWorld | yep eist |
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| 18:37.48 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: so scp file user@server:import/ |
| 18:38.19 | axel_foley | dreaming of a newer kde in DEBIAN :'-( |
| 18:38.20 | ws2k3 | how can i add a boot parameter in debian |
| 18:38.24 | ToTheInternet | I installed debian yesterday and set the locale and keyboard layout to german. it worked fine. now the keyboard layout changed. i tried setting it again with dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration and dpkg-reconfigure locale, but even after a reboot this doesnt have an effect, the keyboard layout is still en |
| 18:38.32 | abrotman | ws2k3: /etc/default/grub |
| 18:38.41 | jelly-home | DelphiWorld: that last / is not strictly necessarily, but will give you an error message instead of renaming the destination file in the case the directory does not exist |
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| 18:39.23 | ws2k3 | abrotman do i need to run grub-update after i changed that file ? |
| 18:39.42 | abrotman | update-grub, and yes |
| 18:40.26 | axel_foley | rryoumaa, what do you use as desktop ? KDE/LXDE/XFCE/GNOME/e17/openbox/... |
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| 18:40.46 | axel_foley | terminal ^^ hahaha |
| 18:41.44 | ramm3 | How can I add a dual monitor? It would only mirror it but when I try to expand the desktop it says the requested size is outside the allowed limit. |
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| 18:42.37 | ws2k3 | abrotman thank you !!! |
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| 18:45.40 | Wafic | any one can help with install php5-curl |
| 18:45.58 | Wafic | its not allawying me to install it |
| 18:46.04 | abrotman | why not? |
| 18:46.05 | Coweater | ramm3: what resolution are these monitors? |
| 18:46.37 | abrotman | Wafic: use paste.debian.net to show us the problem |
| 18:46.42 | Wafic | http://pastebin.com/BVQH3KZX |
| 18:47.14 | abrotman | Wafic: don't use dotdeb, it breaks your system |
| 18:47.22 | Wafic | aaa |
| 18:47.28 | Wafic | how can i fix it |
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| 18:47.42 | Wafic | am stuck |
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| 18:47.47 | abrotman | remove all dotdeb packages |
| 18:47.50 | abrotman | if oyu can |
| 18:48.00 | abrotman | they're broken, they mess up the system, they're not worth any effort |
| 18:48.09 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Wafic about dotdeb |
| 18:48.38 | Wafic | how would i know which ones are dotbed |
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| 18:52.08 | wols | I want to make an image of a harddisk partition (ntfs) with quite a lot of free space. any suggestion for something in debian? |
| 18:52.09 | ramm3 | Coweater: they're of different resolutions |
| 18:53.02 | abrotman | wols: you're saying to don't want to 'dd' the partition because it'll have too much wasted space? |
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| 18:53.33 | torax | compress it |
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| 18:53.36 | axel_foley | wols, bzip2 helps |
| 18:53.42 | abrotman | wow .. |
| 18:53.43 | axel_foley | or partimage |
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| 19:00.04 | DelphiWorld | back |
| 19:00.07 | DelphiWorld | sory guys |
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| 19:01.30 | zh1 | what application does debian use to open run files via gui? |
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| 19:03.19 | Okee | I am curious as to what scanners people are using? I don't like the simple scan that came with debian stable. The scanned pages are too dark. |
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| 19:04.41 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: want a bit of fun? |
| 19:04.52 | DelphiWorld | abrotman: its work, but do you know why didnt work befaure? |
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| 19:08.25 | DelphiWorld | jelly-home: -p 1022 was ignored and was using 22... which is my vm server :-P |
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| 19:13.33 | rryoumaa | axel_foley: i don't need a de so i use fluxbox atm but in debian you can use almost anything |
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| 19:18.31 | Okee | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:19.57 | abrotman | Okee: there are many |
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| 19:20.12 | abrotman | Okee: your front end might be more important |
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| 19:22.12 | Okee | abrotman> What I am hoping to find is a utility that is designed to work with MySQL/PostgreSQL, so that I can create a more accurate import feature. I recall that the Free Software Foundation has one, but I can't find it. The problem with existing address books is that they are not very accurate for importing data. This can be remedied when the import utility uses SQL. |
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| 19:23.42 | abrotman | akonadi ? |
| 19:24.03 | Urk | abrotman> I accidnetally disconnected myself, and now can't change my handle, so I am urk instead of okee. |
| 19:24.10 | abrotman | good plan .. |
| 19:24.21 | abrotman | Urk: there's also turba which is the backend to horde |
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| 19:29.04 | zophy | hi |
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| 19:42.33 | nonconvergent | Hey, running a script that runs debuild on a number of arches but it fails on debuild -uc -us -b -ai386 and gives me dpkg-architecture: warning: specified GNU system type i486-linux-gnu does not match gcc system type x86_64-linux-gnu, try setting a correct CC environment variable |
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| 19:44.41 | magnulu | I have a couple of files that for some reasen have got their filenames reversed (cba.file instead of abc.file) - anyone got a hint on how I can switch that around using cli? |
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| 19:45.06 | abrotman | magnulu: you'll need a script |
| 19:46.07 | magnulu | abrotman: ok, then I will look into one I found.. thought it would be a one-liner actually |
| 19:46.10 | magnulu | thanks |
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| 19:47.28 | abrotman | magnulu: i don't think 'rename' will do it .. you can check though |
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| 19:49.47 | cowbud | am I missing something? I can't seem to install ffmpeg on testing, did that package get removed? |
| 19:49.56 | cowbud | or do I need to enable something I haven't yet? |
| 19:50.24 | ToTheInternet | How can I get my docking station (thinkpad series 3 dock) to work? |
| 19:51.00 | ToTheInternet | it seems that as of 2.6.x this should be supported by the kernel by default, at least that's the only information i can find on the net |
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| 19:51.31 | ToTheInternet | but it doesn't work. i also tried this: http://phihag.de/2012/thinkpad-docking.html |
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| 19:52.30 | abrotman | ToTheInternet: thinkwiki might have more info |
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| 19:52.38 | abrotman | judd: versions ffmpeg |
| 19:52.39 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on i386 -- squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.15-dmo1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.6-1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 6:0.8.9-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.9-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.8-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.1.1-dmo2; sid-multimedia: 10:2.1.1-dmo4 |
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| 19:52.54 | abrotman | cowbud: apparently removed |
| 19:53.20 | petern_ | avconv? |
| 19:54.06 | ToTheInternet | abrotman: nothing that really helps |
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| 19:54.54 | petern_ | libav-tools |
| 19:55.12 | wols | ToTheInternet: "doesn't work" how? |
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| 19:57.32 | cowbud | petern_: thanks looks like that is what is available now |
| 19:57.55 | cowbud | judd: info frei0r-plugins |
| 19:57.56 | judd | Package frei0r-plugins (video, optional) in wheezy/i386: minimalistic plugin API for video effects, plugins collection. Version: 1.1.22git20091109-1.2; Size: 330.8k; Installed: 4262k; Homepage: http://www.piksel.org/frei0r |
| 19:58.05 | abrotman | petern_: oh, bundled now? |
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| 19:58.30 | sarkis | hey guys, what should i look at for a repo solution for debian |
| 19:58.49 | abrotman | reprepro |
| 19:58.50 | sarkis | reprepro seems like the most popular? however it only allows 1 version of a package |
| 19:59.01 | ToTheInternet | wols: it seems that the information there is outdated and they are not very clear about things |
| 19:59.02 | sarkis | which is fine i guess :) if there's nothing better |
| 19:59.25 | abrotman | sarkis: http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository |
| 19:59.37 | ToTheInternet | wols: basically they say, as of 2.6.x you don't need any extra drivers because it works by default - but it doesn't for me |
| 19:59.45 | WormFood | when I do a new debian install, when is the /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key being created? That is part of the install script, isn't it? |
| 20:00.07 | sarkis | hmm dak huh/. |
| 20:00.34 | sarkis | anyone have experience with dak or minidak?> |
| 20:00.52 | niteye | if i understand correctly, reprepo makes an entire repo, and apt-cacher is like a repo that only saves the packages it saw pass through it? |
| 20:01.03 | wols | !tell ToTheInternet about doesn't work |
| 20:01.11 | abrotman | WormFood: either that or the init script, check the postinst script |
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| 20:01.30 | WormFood | I searched all through everything in /etc, and found nothing |
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| 20:01.47 | WormFood | I was hoping it would be created after the first run, but it appears it's during the install phase |
| 20:02.18 | abrotman | WormFood: the postinst has it |
| 20:02.20 | WormFood | what I want to do, is create a snapshot, that I can quickly copy to a usb memory stick, and create it's unique keys the first time it runs. |
| 20:02.30 | WormFood | I can trigger that with dpkg, right? |
| 20:02.44 | abrotman | WormFood: it's just an ssh-keygen |
| 20:02.57 | WormFood | I realize that, but I'm looking to automate it |
| 20:03.12 | WormFood | I just want new keys created if existing keys are not there. |
| 20:03.55 | WormFood | and I know how to make ssh-keygen run automatically. I was just going to edit /etc/default/ssh and add a test for the key files, and issue the proper command to regenerate them |
| 20:03.58 | niteye | i think some raspberry pi images are as such, ssh keys generated the first time you boot their image, perhaps you can check out how they do it |
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| 20:05.20 | WormFood | doing it's actually trivial |
| 20:05.24 | ToTheInternet | is there any log where i can look up all the acpi events that occured? |
| 20:05.27 | WormFood | I just didn't want to reinvent the wheel |
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| 20:05.38 | ToTheInternet | or a tool that prints them as they occur? |
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| 20:05.44 | WormFood | ToTheInternet, try /var/log/messages |
| 20:06.01 | WormFood | ToTheInternet, try "tail -F /var/log/messages /var/log/daemon /var/log/whatever" |
| 20:06.13 | WormFood | I always run that in window 0 of screen |
| 20:06.23 | WormFood | hell...I added that to my screenrc file ;) |
| 20:06.27 | ToTheInternet | WormFood: tried that. either the event i'm looking for isn't fired at all or not all events are logged there |
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| 20:06.38 | WormFood | you may need to change the logging level |
| 20:06.42 | ToTheInternet | WormFood: so i wanted a tool where i can be sure that everything is logged |
| 20:06.54 | WormFood | you need to adjust the existing tools |
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| 20:07.09 | WormFood | set the log level higher (or lower...whatever it takes) |
| 20:07.18 | ToTheInternet | ok |
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| 20:09.23 | Sia- | any idea why everything work fine just without resume/suspend,. i get blank screen each time! |
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| 20:11.38 | Maxi1 | Moin |
| 20:11.39 | Sia- | her is the graphic card details http://paste.ubuntu.com/6658854/ |
| 20:12.07 | Maxi1 | Ist jemand deutsches da |
| 20:12.42 | petn-randall | Maxi1: This is an english-only channel. |
| 20:12.44 | petn-randall | !de |
| 20:12.44 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 20:13.19 | petn-randall | Maxi1: Some people speak german here, but so everyone can participate we stick with english. |
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| 20:17.06 | Maxi1 | Ok. |
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| 20:17.12 | Maxi1 | i need an developper |
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| 20:20.42 | c4shman_ | hi there im trying to change xterm title permanent on every sh |
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| 20:20.55 | abrotman | Maxi1: for what? |
| 20:21.15 | c4shman_ | but it only works on the shell i did the cmd ! |
| 20:21.31 | Maxi1 | For m hosting service (host4life.de) but i onl speak german |
| 20:21.34 | Tekk_ | has anyone been having issues with radeon hd 7770? Everything says it's been supported by the free drivers for years yet it keeps falling back to llvmpipe on me :/ |
| 20:21.44 | abrotman | Maxi1: what does that have to do with a developer? |
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| 20:22.10 | abrotman | okay then |
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| 20:22.36 | jelly-home | Tekk_: might need firmware to get 3d working, is firmware-linux-nonfree installed? |
| 20:22.47 | Tekk_ | jelly-home: yep |
| 20:23.00 | Tekk_ | the firmware's on. had issues with that where not even kms would work without |
| 20:23.06 | jelly-home | dunno then |
| 20:23.10 | abrotman | what's your kernel? |
| 20:23.25 | Tekk_ | 3.11-2 on amd64 |
| 20:23.31 | Tekk_ | but I was also having the issue on 686 |
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| 20:23.48 | Tekk_ | I'm on testing atm |
| 20:24.08 | Tekk_ | trying to figure out of it's something on my end or if the card's defective |
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| 20:34.28 | c4shman_ | plzz cann sb help mee |
| 20:34.45 | jelly-home | !ask |
| 20:34.45 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 20:34.48 | abrotman | help you what? |
| 20:34.58 | abrotman | oh, xterm guy |
| 20:35.02 | wols | c4shman_: put it in your shell startup file(s) |
| 20:35.04 | c4shman_ | to save xterm |
| 20:35.40 | c4shman_ | and where r they? |
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| 20:39.32 | cactusbin | hello |
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| 20:40.01 | cactusbin | would it be possible to install the steam package from testing on a stable install? |
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| 20:40.04 | cactusbin | without upgrading? |
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| 20:40.48 | debian-davi | I wonder what it is if Debian runned netbsd |
| 20:42.00 | Tekk_ | debian-davi: kNetBSD existed for a while |
| 20:42.08 | Tekk_ | cactusbin: no |
| 20:42.16 | Tekk_ | the libc needed is too new |
| 20:42.31 | babilen | cactusbin: I wouldn't be too surprised if it is possible, but I haven't verified that in the slightest. Also see "/msg dpkg ssb", but then steam is mostly binary blob. At least the libc6 dependency is fine. |
| 20:42.49 | Tekk_ | oh, has it been recompiled? |
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| 20:43.08 | babilen | Tekk_: We are talking about the Debian package not the official one |
| 20:43.13 | debian-davi | well |
| 20:43.14 | babilen | judd: depends steam --release=testing |
| 20:43.15 | judd | Package steam in jessie/i386 -- depends: debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0, libc6 (>= 2.12), libstdc++6 (>= 4.3), libx11-6, libxau6, libxcb1, libxdmcp6, libgl1-mesa-dri, libgl1-mesa-glx, xterm | gnome-terminal,debconf, multiarch-support. |
| 20:43.27 | debian-davi | debian netbsd is different from debian linux? |
| 20:43.34 | babilen | netbsd? |
| 20:44.09 | babilen | debian-davi: What are you referring to? |
| 20:44.15 | debian-davi | Yes. |
| 20:44.24 | debian-davi | debian netbsd port |
| 20:44.37 | babilen | debian-davi: Do you have a link? |
| 20:44.40 | ompaul | debian-davi: I think you'll find that a little more research is needed |
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| 20:45.35 | Tekk_ | debian-davi: debian knetbsd is very long dead |
| 20:45.43 | Tekk_ | 12 years |
| 20:45.47 | Tekk_ | http://www.debian.org/ports/netbsd/ |
| 20:46.04 | abrotman | debian-davi: you mean the Debian kfreebsd ? |
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| 20:46.23 | babilen | debian-davi: I ask because there isn't a "NetBSD port" that is still being worked on (cf. http://www.debian.org/ports/netbsd/ ) -- You might be interested in kFreeBSD though. |
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| 21:07.07 | volpoor | anyone, how to debug owncloud6 not using libraoffice for preview files, I can't find out why, no hints in log/debug or whatever... |
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| 21:20.37 | bugoff | !/25 |
| 21:20.49 | abrotman | almost :) |
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| 21:23.31 | niteye | this may be a stupid question, but after compiling a kernel, i get uImage and zImage, what is the difference, and where can i find the modules (i did "make modules" |
| 21:24.19 | petern_ | Read the manual I suppose. |
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| 21:24.56 | wols | niteye: you only should have gotten a .deb file. if you didn't get a .deb file at all, you compiled it wrong |
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| 21:25.04 | wols | niteye: read the debian kernel handbook |
| 21:25.12 | niteye | okay |
| 21:25.16 | LordDeath | http://packages.debian.org/de/wheezy/znc <-- will this allow me to stay always connect to IRC with multiple clients under the same nickname? |
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| 21:25.34 | jelly-home | ,v znc |
| 21:25.35 | judd | Package: znc on i386 -- squeeze: 0.092-3; wheezy: 0.206-2; jessie: 1.2-3; sid: 1.2-3 |
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| 21:26.15 | jelly-home | LordDeath: yes, with some caveats |
| 21:26.37 | LordDeath | what kind of caveats? |
| 21:27.10 | hans_henrik | pure-ftpd v1.0.36 [privsep] whatever that means, as is in debian-stable repo, seems to ignore -a / --trustedgid |
| 21:27.11 | hans_henrik | -.- |
| 21:27.17 | hans_henrik | could som1 try to confirm? |
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| 21:27.36 | hans_henrik | (it basically means "chroot EVERYONE EXCEPT PEOPLE IN GROUP ID x" ) |
| 21:27.55 | jelly-home | LordDeath: wit hte version in wheezy, not all logs will get forwarded to all the clients, unless you set up things like this FAQ entry suggests http://wiki.znc.in/FAQ#How_to_store_private_messages_even_when_user_is_attached.2C_so_other_clients_can_see_them.3F |
| 21:28.16 | hans_henrik | while pure-ftpd v1.0.28 [privsep] as is in debian-oldstable, does not ignore it |
| 21:28.17 | hans_henrik | it seems. |
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| 21:35.43 | LordDeath | jelly-home: is this related to the "multiple networks per user" feature: http://wiki.znc.in/ChangeLog/1.0 |
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| 21:37.05 | LordDeath | I shouldn't look up stuff like this :-S http://serverfault.com/questions/22414/how-can-i-run-debian-stable-but-install-some-packages-from-testing |
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| 21:50.42 | CTCP3 | where can I see is chipset on my motherboard supported by Debian 2.6 kernel? My MB is "DFI LP DK 790FX-M2RS AM2+ AM2 AMD 790FX" and I can't boot OS with USB stick, i'm getting error "Invalid Partition Table" |
| 21:51.01 | abrotman | which installer did you use? |
| 21:51.13 | abrotman | you shouldn't be using squeeze, yuou should be using wheezy |
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| 21:51.44 | wols | CTCP3: your chipset is supported. but that doesn't mean a thing |
| 21:51.48 | CTCP3 | i'm using SMOS distribution http://www.smos-linux.org/ - SMOS Linux - Scrypt Mining Operating System :D |
| 21:52.06 | wols | CTCP3: we only support debian however. mot SMOS |
| 21:52.08 | niteye | perhaps you copied the distro onto the USB drive the wrong way? |
| 21:52.08 | wols | *not |
| 21:52.38 | CTCP3 | niteye : i didn't, it workd on other PC's with GB motherboards |
| 21:52.54 | abrotman | CTCP3: this channle supports Debian, please use the SMOS support methods |
| 21:52.55 | CTCP3 | same USB stick |
| 21:53.17 | CTCP3 | abrotman : they told to ask here because SMOS is Debian 2.6 :D |
| 21:53.24 | abrotman | CTCP3: use #smos |
| 21:53.24 | wols | CTCP3: either look for a SMOS support channel or ask in ##linux. we cannot support SMOS |
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| 21:53.30 | niteye | maybe the motherboard just doesn't like booting with the USB stick and its not a linux problem, i get that sometimes |
| 21:53.37 | abrotman | CTCP3: use #smos or ##linux. We support Debian here, not things based on Debian |
| 21:53.56 | wols | CTCP3: SMOS is not debian, it's SMOS |
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| 22:07.08 | drhouse123 | i have genius multimedia keyboard and some keys doesn't work, like launching media player and email client (in kde it is amarok) so, because 3.2 kernel is old for it ? |
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| 22:07.48 | wols | drhouse123: no cause the keys are non-standard and not recognized |
| 22:07.55 | wols | you will basically have to configure them yourself |
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| 22:10.26 | drhouse123 | wols: but they're worked on another distro (it had 3.10 kernel) ok, i will try 3.11 from backport |
| 22:10.48 | wols | drhouse123: it's not a kernel config that you are missing |
| 22:10.56 | wols | so the other distro configured its userland differently |
| 22:11.28 | drhouse123 | wols: are you mean xorg ? |
| 22:12.00 | wols | no I don't |
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| 22:15.00 | sankey | i'm trying to understand packaging daemons for debian |
| 22:15.14 | sankey | can someone point me to the exact file/script that actually creates the daemon user? |
| 22:15.24 | sankey | take, for example, the nagios package |
| 22:16.08 | sankey | it creates /var/run/nagios and makes its owner 'nagios' |
| 22:16.23 | sankey | but where is the adduser, mkdir, and chown commands located, exactly? |
| 22:16.56 | jhutchins | sankey: Perhaps you are looking for the init scripts that are used to launch system daemons? |
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| 22:17.44 | sankey | but the init script assumes the existence of the nagios user and the /var/run/nagios directory |
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| 22:18.14 | abrotman | sankey: in the postinst for the package probably |
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| 22:19.47 | jhutchins | sankey: Ok, so you're looking for the pre- and post- scripts within the .deb package. |
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| 22:21.24 | sankey | ah, i think i found something |
| 22:21.26 | sankey | http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=pkg-nagios/pkg-nagios3.git;a=blob;f=debian/nagios3-common.postinst;h=95e45bb43736fab888458afadcccf988661a21d7;hb=HEAD |
| 22:21.47 | sankey | ctrl+f adduser |
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| 22:23.12 | abrotman | sankey: /var/lib/dpkg/info/foo.postinst .. yes |
| 22:23.13 | owen1 | i heard systemD is available on wheezy. should i invest my time learning it? |
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| 22:27.33 | abrotman | owen1: that's up to you |
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| 22:33.22 | jhutchins | owen1: I don't believe there's a decision yet on what's going to be the next system. |
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| 22:39.06 | owen1 | abrotman: jhutchins how come ubuntu didn't adopt it? |
| 22:39.14 | abrotman | owen1: you'd have to ask #ubuntu |
| 22:40.18 | owen1 | yeah |
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| 22:42.51 | Alina-malina | Is it possible to run virtualbox on server mode in debian? |
| 22:42.57 | Alina-malina | i mean virtual machin |
| 22:43.38 | abrotman | Yes |
| 22:43.47 | Alina-malina | without gui stuff |
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| 22:45.08 | Alina-malina | hmm, please can you specify if we understand each other correctly, i am not sure if i explain it right |
| 22:45.25 | axel_foley | go OFF! have fun with D E B I A N! |
| 22:45.29 | axel_foley | bye |
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| 22:56.07 | drhouse123 | wols: i fixed it by Input Action for KDE, thx |
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| 23:01.16 | DeepBlue | how to change the default DE? |
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| 23:08.08 | Alina-malina | what is the "jail" alternative called for debian? |
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| 23:10.52 | torax | chroot ? |
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| 23:10.54 | Alina-malina | torax, yes something like that, but chroot is not recommended to use, so i want to know the other alternative for that |
| 23:10.54 | torax | openvz container maybe? |
| 23:10.54 | torax | why chroot is not recommended, what are you doing? |
| 23:11.07 | Alina-malina | torax, i get an advice here i dont remember |
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| 23:18.38 | SrvK | Hi guys. I'm wondering why I can't find VirtualBox on Synaptic in Debian Testing |
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| 23:20.46 | somiaj | what are your sources.list |
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| 23:20.50 | somiaj | ,v virtualbox |
| 23:20.51 | judd | Package: virtualbox on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 4.0.10-dfsg-1~bpo60+2; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.2.16-dfsg-3~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.2.16-dfsg-3+b1; sid/contrib: 4.3.2-dfsg-1 |
| 23:21.24 | somiaj | seems it has been put into contrib, maybe it links or suggest non-free stuff with it from orcale |
| 23:21.41 | somiaj | SrvK: looks like you need to enable teh contrib and posibally the non-free repo |
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| 23:22.39 | SrvK | somiaj, the contrib repo is free software, right? |
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| 23:23.11 | somiaj | yes and no |
| 23:23.30 | somiaj | it is free in the sense the software you get from that is, but it usually pulls in non-free stuff with it |
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| 23:24.15 | SrvK | Ok, thanks. |
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| 23:24.27 | SrvK | I'll try downloading it from the website |
| 23:24.27 | somiaj | the example I know is 'flashpulgin-nonfree' is contrib. Because all it is is a set of free scripts |
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| 23:24.53 | somiaj | but those scripts then download the non-free adobe flash (non-free in terms of the license) and puts non-free stuff on your system |
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| 23:25.16 | SrvK | ok, thanks for the explanation |
| 23:25.27 | SrvK | I though flashplayer was on the non-free repo though |
| 23:25.29 | somiaj | SrvK: I'd just enable the contrib repo, and install it from there. If you are gonna use virtual box and what ever reason there is some non-free license with it now (I'd have to look up the reasoning) use the debian packages as opposed to downloading it from orcale |
| 23:25.54 | somiaj | it isn't, it is in the contrib repo, because debian cannot distribute flash. It can distribute scripts to download it onto your machine though from adobe |
| 23:25.55 | SrvK | alright |
| 23:26.10 | SrvK | the website still states that the software is released under the GNU GPL |
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| 23:26.17 | SrvK | but I'll go with the contrib repo |
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| 23:27.07 | somiaj | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=691148 |
| 23:28.08 | somiaj | seems virtualbox-4.2 is not DSFG free, that bug report may explain more |
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| 23:28.48 | SrvK | What's your favorite music player for debian? |
| 23:28.49 | somiaj | seems Vbox switched to a non-free bios |
| 23:29.09 | somiaj | I don't play much music, but I use mplayer for most things, or mpg321 for mp3's |
| 23:29.19 | somiaj | all cli applications for me |
| 23:31.22 | sadbox | I thought that since Vbox 4.0 vbox was free |
| 23:31.46 | sadbox | With the exception of oracle's extensions |
| 23:31.58 | somiaj | seems that Vbox 4.2 requires Watcom to compile the Bios part of it. |
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| 23:32.27 | somiaj | so the software itself is free, but to build it and the source code contains a small non-free snippet. That is why it is in contrib |
| 23:33.04 | somiaj | the software is free by the DSFG but in order to build it from source you need a non-free component which also means you need that if you want to change the BIOS part of the source code, the bug report has a good discussion on it |
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| 23:54.07 | Penix | doebi: do you have realtek ethernet? |
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