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| 00:00.07 | juanmabcirc | https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:juanmabcsuse/codemiscs |
| 00:00.40 | coderanger | Anyone around that knows the first magic to put in the Sources file to make it functionally empty? Trying to make a repo that has deb-src be a noop. |
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| 00:01.04 | abrotman | juanmabcirc: ah, you want #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 00:01.31 | juanmabcirc | let's see :) |
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| 00:04.26 | PinkFreud | ... looks like I just need a kernel newer than jessie's current 3.11 to have audio over hdmi |
| 00:04.50 | Belial` | PinkFreud, 3.12 is in jessie as of today |
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| 00:05.12 | PinkFreud | Belial`: ... I just installed jessie last night. grrrrr. :) |
| 00:05.20 | abrotman | that was easy! |
| 00:05.21 | Belial` | uname -a |
| 00:05.21 | Belial` | Linux shenanigans 3.12-1-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.12.6-2 (2013-12-29) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 00:05.25 | PinkFreud | wound up pulling 3.13 rc6 from experimental. not sure if 12 will have the support. |
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| 00:06.05 | PinkFreud | Belial`: I believe you. I'm just annoyed that jessie switched to 3.12 a day after I installed the damn thing! :) |
| 00:06.09 | anton02 | how do you fix this? /usr/sbin/samba: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwbclient.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/samba/libauth4.so) |
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| 00:07.35 | PinkFreud | hehe. |
| 00:07.52 | PinkFreud | I might stick with 3.13 rc6 for now and fall back to 3.12 if it causes problems. |
| 00:08.49 | Belial` | yeah. you just gotta keep track of 3.13's official release and upgrade it manually. |
| 00:09.05 | ExeciN | When debian boots, I try to login but moments after I press enter I get back to the login screen. What is wrong? How can I fix it? |
| 00:09.08 | Belial` | unless you do something or other with priorities. i never mess with that. |
| 00:10.57 | klys | anyone here use matrox video |
| 00:11.00 | anton02 | what is an active directory server? |
| 00:11.51 | tomatosalad | I'm having a hell of a time getting bridging to work in debian, would it just be easier set up a dhcp server? |
| 00:11.55 | abrotman | anton02: Windows thing |
| 00:12.11 | abrotman | anton02: there's a great website called Wikipedia |
| 00:14.22 | klys | active directory is an implementation of iso x.500 ; suse distributes a non-free package (edirectory?) which also supports iso x.500 . |
| 00:15.44 | juanmabcirc | omg, i just did it :-) http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/juanmabcsuse/Debian_7.0/i386/codemiscs_2013.12.30_i386.deb |
| 00:15.46 | juanmabcirc | abrotman: turns out i lacked ", " between deps, thanks :) |
| 00:15.55 | abrotman | juanmabcirc: I see that, I'm in that channel also |
| 00:16.05 | abrotman | juanmabcirc: the packaging manual should talk about this, sorry I missed it |
| 00:16.27 | juanmabcirc | yes, my fault too, i totally obviated that |
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| 00:33.24 | vanea | Hello |
| 00:33.35 | vanea | Is anybody alive here? :D |
| 00:33.43 | dvs | zzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 00:33.48 | AsumFace | hides |
| 00:33.50 | vanea | Need your help. I have to recursively create folders... smth like this mkdir -p G{1..6} but the last number, in our case "6" should be introduced by the user. I tried mkdir -p G{1..$i} but it's not working. here is the whole code (it's short) http://pastebin.com/PUXUbE9F |
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| 00:36.20 | AsumFace | wry with a for loop |
| 00:36.24 | AsumFace | try* |
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| 00:38.56 | vanea | AsumFace: could you be more specific? I am noob in programming. I am more a one line guy :D thanls |
| 00:39.03 | vanea | * thank you |
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| 00:39.26 | AsumFace | wait a sec |
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| 00:42.26 | Tramp | vanea: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashPitfalls#pf33 -- Don't do this! -- for i in {1..$n} |
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| 00:45.56 | vanea | Tramp: thx |
| 00:46.12 | Tramp | yw |
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| 00:52.07 | Hilton | Google isn't being friendly to me today and I didn't see anything in man ... Is there a way to configure ls to pause or pipe to less if it's going to be more than a screenful? (like DOS's dir /p) |
| 00:53.13 | phix | Hilton: yes there is |
| 00:53.34 | phix | that would be in the shell's man page |
| 00:54.07 | abrotman | Hilton: ls | less ? |
| 00:54.29 | phix | Hilton: also look up alias in your shell's man page (I am assuming you are using bash?) |
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| 00:55.50 | Hilton | abrotman: I'd like that to be automatic, though - but only if more than a screenful, rather than typing an ls command then having to do it again with |less if it was too big. DOS's dir command has a /p option which will automatically pause when the screen is full - surely DOS doesn't have something Linux doesn't. |
| 00:55.53 | phix | abrotman, Hilton: ls --color=no | less |
| 00:56.01 | phix | Hilton: look into the alias command |
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| 00:57.02 | phix | Hilton: it is part of the shell (alias ls='ls --color=no | less' is a good place to start) |
| 00:57.03 | Hilton | With an alias, won't it use less EVERY time? |
| 00:57.14 | phix | Hilton: if you alias ls it will |
| 00:57.22 | phix | but you can alias lsAndLess or whatevber you like |
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| 00:58.02 | phix | the command left of the = is the one you type in, can be anything you like, the command on the right is what is exeuted when you type in that alias |
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| 00:58.17 | Hilton | That wouldn't be much different than typing ls /var/log and then again ls /var/log|less when it turns out to be too big. my point was an automatic command - type ls /var/log once and if it's longer than the screen, it pauses or switches to less. |
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| 00:58.58 | phix | Hilton: ls is open source, feel free to add that feature to it if you like |
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| 00:59.49 | Hilton | I've already got ls and a few other aliases with the options I prefer, but a pause option seems to be incredibly lacking. |
| 00:59.50 | phix | Hilton: or create a script |
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| 01:00.44 | phix | Hilton: a ls wrapper that is, that holds the output and if it is larger than terminal size then it pauses, you can write that in python, bash, perl, what ever you like ;) |
| 01:01.08 | Hilton | Aww, the only thing I know right now is PHP (and Delphi but I doubt that'll help me!) |
| 01:01.36 | phix | That is for the sort term, for the long term you can suggest that feature to GNU or who ever is responsible for the ls command |
| 01:01.38 | abrotman | phix: not sure why you highlighted me for that ..? |
| 01:02.29 | phix | abrotman: the --color=no part, unless you like to look at raw ANSI escape sequences |
| 01:02.58 | abrotman | no, did'nt care :) |
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| 01:02.59 | phix | Personally I am quite partial to them, but wasn't sure if you were |
| 01:03.01 | phix | ah :) |
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| 01:03.24 | abrotman | I'm actually wondering if there's a way to pipe to more/less and not have it go single column ? |
| 01:03.27 | Hilton | Probably no point. |
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| 01:04.03 | abrotman | there could be, thus I'm curious |
| 01:04.13 | Hilton | I'm sure that 30 years later, some noob like me isn't the first person to think of a simple pause command that every other command-line OS implemented in 1981. It's probably been rejected a few times. |
| 01:04.51 | Hilton | phix: less -F will maintain ANSI. |
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| 01:05.33 | phix | Hilton: ah nice :) |
| 01:06.41 | Hilton | abrotman: I spotted --format (and -x -m -l -1 -C) in the manual. Just tested it - ls -x | less will maintain the standard look. |
| 01:06.55 | abrotman | oh, i saw those, figured it wouldn't obey them .. |
| 01:07.22 | abrotman | though it uses a different number of columns .. interesting |
| 01:07.38 | Hilton | Same actually |
| 01:08.06 | Hilton | but -x orders the items by row (left to right, then next row) rather than by column (up to down, then next column) |
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| 01:08.55 | Hilton | ls --format=vertical is the default view |
| 01:08.59 | abrotman | not compared to 'ls' |
| 01:08.59 | Hilton | (ls -C) |
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| 01:09.25 | abrotman | Hilton: ls -C | more .. it does still change it |
| 01:09.41 | Hilton | Not on mine |
| 01:09.49 | Hilton | Maybe I have other options making it work. |
| 01:10.06 | abrotman | perhaps |
| 01:10.10 | abrotman | not that important |
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| 01:12.10 | Hilton | I've only got --color --group-directories-first -p for default options... |
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| 01:13.38 | Hilton | ls, ls -C, ls -C | more all display the same (except color in more); ls -C | less still goes single column. However, with ls --format=vertical | less, it displays the same. -C and --format=vertical are apparently not identical. |
| 01:14.16 | Hilton | And I just discovered that ChatZilla changes text | between pipes | to Courier New (like a code display) ... heh. |
| 01:15.33 | dvs | Hilton: That for the benefit of each channel's topic |
| 01:15.35 | Hilton | Oh damn! My whole question just became moot by reading http://lnag.sourceforge.net/lnag_html/node5.html and discovering you can shift+pgup the console (scroll up)! |
| 01:15.59 | omglolnub2 | hello all , curious I'm not able to connect to ftp3.nrc.ca:80 on my server <when running apt-get update) this has been happening for a a week or 2 but previously had no issues. It's been in my sources list since the initial setup of the server, and input would be nice |
| 01:16.25 | abrotman | Hilton: uhm, yes |
| 01:16.27 | dvs | omglolnub2: Use http.debian.net instead |
| 01:17.20 | Hilton | Hey I'm new, okay? |
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| 01:18.53 | omglolnub2 | in the sources list ( just so get the sintax right it should be deb http://debian.net/ |
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| 01:19.13 | omglolnub2 | synatx |
| 01:19.23 | dvs | no |
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| 01:19.48 | dvs | !http.debian.net |
| 01:19.49 | dpkg | To have <APT> automatically select a mirror geographically close to you, you can use a Geo-IP service from http.debian.net. An example line for your sources.list is "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main". See http://http.debian.net/ for more information. Unlike <cdn.debian.net>, it is safe to use with Google DNS etc because it uses HTTP 302 redirects. See also <which http.debian.net>. |
| 01:19.55 | sideup66 | hello folks |
| 01:20.16 | sideup66 | i have a bit of a simple question today, im doing a debian 7 net install over ssh right now on a crippled old laptop I have, has some hardware issues |
| 01:20.36 | sideup66 | therefore i would like to install only the most basic stuff to get things running, and i started the system installation in advanced mode |
| 01:21.24 | sideup66 | and am currently on the step of installing the base system, now outside of this, i would like to only have an ssh server on the machine so it can be controlled headlessly (unfortunately the keyboard and mouse dont work and no, usb wont cut it) |
| 01:21.43 | sideup66 | most times post install when i would try to boot the system it would hang on waiting for /dev to fully populate |
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| 01:28.13 | sideup66 | btw if im doing a base install |
| 01:28.20 | sideup66 | and only load that and grub with apt configured |
| 01:28.25 | sideup66 | will the system still boot? |
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| 01:28.33 | sideup66 | or will it need additional components |
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| 01:29.37 | casino | Hi are the debian programmers paid here? |
| 01:29.48 | casino | I was wondering if they were paid? |
| 01:29.55 | casino | because it's FOSS |
| 01:30.22 | sideup66 | not sure |
| 01:30.30 | sideup66 | i know linux itself is open source |
| 01:30.34 | sideup66 | so i would imagine not |
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| 01:40.53 | Ergo | hello im trying to use LXC with debian squeeze |
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| 01:41.29 | Ergo | ive downloaded latest LXC from backports, downloaded working container directly from upstram, and installer backported kernel |
| 01:42.11 | Ergo | ive managed to create a new instance of wheezy - it runs and appears to work ok, the problem is when i shutdown the instance my host stops responding - any ideas? |
| 01:42.28 | F8sS | aptitude install lxc |
| 01:42.42 | F8sS | aptitude install bridge-utils libvirt-bin debootstrap |
| 01:43.12 | F8sS | Add this line to /etc/fstab |
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| 01:43.19 | F8sS | cgroup /sys/fs/cgroup cgroup defaults 0 0 |
| 01:43.30 | F8sS | Try to mount it (a reboot solves an eventual "resource busy problem" in any case) |
| 01:43.37 | F8sS | mount /sys/fs/cgroup |
| 01:43.47 | F8sS | Check kernel configuration : |
| 01:43.56 | F8sS | # lxc-checkconfig |
| 01:44.24 | Ergo | yup did all of that before |
| 01:44.28 | Ergo | checkconfig is also happy |
| 01:44.32 | F8sS | reboot |
| 01:44.36 | abrotman | !enter |
| 01:44.36 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 01:45.14 | Ergo | F8sS: #lxc suggests it might be a problem with bridging |
| 01:46.28 | shawnbon206 | yo. i am trying to do a gui install and it asks for rt2860.bin. i put it on the root dir of a thumb drive and it wont notice it. does it matter if i use exfat? |
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| 01:46.44 | sideup66 | would anyone know how to disable devices from being detected in modprobe |
| 01:47.11 | F8sS | Ergo, cat /etc/init/lxclo.conf |
| 01:47.15 | dvs | shawnbon206: exfat is not recognized by the linux kernel |
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| 01:48.04 | shawnbon206 | ok. so literally the .bin or should i put the .deb it came from? |
| 01:48.09 | F8sS | Ergo, do you have static ip ? |
| 01:48.23 | Ergo | F8sS: yes |
| 01:48.35 | F8sS | Ergo thats the problem |
| 01:49.05 | F8sS | Ergo, ifdown/ifup problem will slove |
| 01:49.25 | Ergo | F8sS: can you be more specific? |
| 01:49.40 | F8sS | turn your eth0 down and up |
| 01:49.47 | Ergo | im not sure how ifdown/ifup could be use by me when i lose access to my host? |
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| 01:50.11 | Ergo | this is on remote machine |
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| 01:51.10 | sideup66 | hmm ok simple questions but yeah |
| 01:51.19 | sideup66 | would anyone know how to quickly check if a package is installed via the shell |
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| 01:51.45 | auberginer | 0 |
| 01:51.51 | auberginer | 73s7 |
| 01:52.33 | F8sS | Ergo, can you read cat /etc/init/lxclo.conf ? |
| 01:53.30 | Ergo | F8sS: i dont have a path like that on my filesystem |
| 01:54.01 | F8sS | find / -name lxclo.conf |
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| 01:54.38 | veek | help - why does apt-get update download 22MB every time i run it |
| 01:54.47 | F8sS | you have a static IP address, but the gateway would not get added into the route table until you do ifdown/ifup |
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| 01:55.36 | abrotman | veek: show us in a pastebin please |
| 01:55.45 | F8sS | veek try apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:55.49 | veek | Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Translation-en Get:6 http://http.debian.net wheezy/main amd64 Packages [5848 kB] and a couple ofo thers are the culprits |
| 01:55.55 | veek | a sec while i pastebin |
| 01:56.05 | abrotman | that's 6MB ... |
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| 01:56.21 | F8sS | veek are you using proxy for apt ? |
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| 01:57.06 | Ergo | F8sS: yeah, the file is not present on my system |
| 01:57.14 | abrotman | sideup66: dpkg -l foopkg |
| 01:57.27 | veek | http://pastebin.com/4bZ1hTy8 |
| 01:57.45 | F8sS | Ergo reinstall |
| 01:57.47 | sideup66 | good evening abrotman, i remember speaking before btw |
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| 01:58.08 | sideup66 | thanks |
| 01:58.21 | veek | F8sS, no proxy - wheezy and dist-upgrade / check donw |
| 01:58.26 | veek | done |
| 01:59.01 | sideup66 | is there any way to get the system to boot without modifying anything in the shell, just use whatever basic preloaded graphics and subsystem is loaded |
| 01:59.12 | sideup66 | a system im trying to install always hangs on waiting for /dev to be populated |
| 01:59.33 | veek | i have a 64 bit wheezy but i've enabled i386 for wine |
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| 02:02.18 | klys | veek would you know how to enable amd64 on an i386 install |
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| 02:02.35 | F8sS | veek, apt-get clean |
| 02:02.43 | F8sS | apt-get upgrade |
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| 02:02.53 | F8sS | apt-get update one more time |
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| 02:05.39 | F8sS | sideup66, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch03.en.html |
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| 02:06.45 | veek | is it normal for apt to download package lists in totalis every time you run it? |
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| 02:08.17 | sideup66 | ok taking a look now |
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| 02:10.11 | F8sS | veek, probably there is a problem in your system , try dpkg --configure -a |
| 02:10.24 | F8sS | that may slove the situation |
| 02:12.50 | veek | nope .. let me try clean autoremove.. any way to figure out which pkgs i've installed manually.. after the install i'd like to automate that so i was hoping to check my cache.. but any other way |
| 02:13.42 | veek | also i wanted to hibernate on lid-close, i can edit acpi/lid.sh but any less kldugy way |
| 02:13.49 | sideup66 | there has to be a way |
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| 02:13.53 | sideup66 | to make this thing boot |
| 02:14.00 | veek | like cat 1>/proc/something |
| 02:14.17 | veek | err echo 1 |
| 02:14.29 | sideup66 | as it if it were a live cd, no fancy driver detects, no video stuff, no extra periphrials talked to, just boot with mouse/keyboard support, basic video, and networking |
| 02:14.34 | sideup66 | thats all the system will ever need to do |
| 02:14.50 | Ergo | F8sS: the reason was indeed container and host shared same interface, configuring network helped here |
| 02:15.00 | veek | sideup66, use hibernate? |
| 02:15.50 | sideup66 | hibernate? |
| 02:16.05 | sideup66 | veek: what is hibernate? |
| 02:17.37 | veek | sideup66, wiki that |
| 02:17.42 | sideup66 | if you mean put the system the sleep no, lol |
| 02:17.47 | sideup66 | wiki hibernate |
| 02:17.51 | sideup66 | !wiki hibernate |
| 02:18.03 | sideup66 | sry thought the bot did stuff like that |
| 02:18.20 | F8sS | Ergo your lxc missing configuration file.conf |
| 02:18.47 | F8sS | the best way to fix that reinstall and change your static ip to dynamic |
| 02:18.58 | F8sS | or use dns no-ip.com |
| 02:19.23 | sideup66 | i see what your saying, get the system to hibernate running the configuration that i need, then just boot up and have it resume? |
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| 02:21.12 | F8sS | sideup66, you tryin to play with bootloader ? |
| 02:21.33 | veek | sideup66, yup |
| 02:21.40 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sideup66 about hibernate |
| 02:21.46 | sideup66 | fbss no, im trying to get a system to run under a very minimal set of software setup |
| 02:22.02 | veek | it's super fast too |
| 02:22.32 | veek | i guess if you save the file you can load to that state every time |
| 02:22.40 | sideup66 | and it wont have to go through an entire boot process |
| 02:22.54 | sideup66 | thing is if i do this, i need a healthy system to boot it, then swap the drive over to the crippled machine |
| 02:22.57 | F8sS | sideup66, optimize system ? |
| 02:22.57 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sideup66 about bootcd |
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| 02:23.06 | abrotman | sideup66: look at the bootcd package |
| 02:23.15 | sideup66 | ok |
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| 02:24.54 | F8sS | sideup66, http://linux-sunxi.org/Optimizing_system_performance |
| 02:25.02 | abrotman | .. |
| 02:25.25 | sideup66 | f8sS: what im trying to do is setup a debian system as a bitcoin miner, i know what software I need and how to install it that isnt an issue, the problem is the pc im trying to setup to do this has a few mainboard issues |
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| 02:25.54 | sideup66 | when I do install the system which I can do with a netinstall cd i have setup to do a headless setup, it installs just fine, however will not boot as it hangs while detecting hardware |
| 02:26.11 | sideup66 | and thanks abrotman and veek |
| 02:26.18 | sideup66 | looking into both options now |
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| 02:27.42 | sideup66 | nothing to do with performance, the machine in question spec wise is more than capable of handling a linux instal |
| 02:28.11 | F8sS | Your first question wasnt that clear |
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| 02:29.42 | sideup66 | f8sS: im sorry, ive been at this for a few days and the patience i have for the system is wearing a bit thin :) |
| 02:32.12 | sideup66 | i think bootcd may be what im looking for, as i should be able to configure the entire system, write the change to the disc, and just have everything read off of it at boot time |
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| 02:39.55 | sideup66 | ok gonna reinstall the system now |
| 02:39.58 | sideup66 | and load bootcd |
| 02:40.24 | sideup66 | only real change id like to make once im on the machine I want to use is the use of a wireless adapter |
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| 02:51.14 | jerichodotm | im working on watch file syntax and having issues. anyone have time to help me out ? |
| 02:51.25 | jerichodotm | trying to keep packages updated |
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| 02:53.12 | venom4k | hello everyone |
| 02:53.24 | mitrick_rpi | hi |
| 02:53.39 | venom4k | so im having some real trouble getting my atheros to work :) |
| 02:53.42 | venom4k | :( |
| 02:53.45 | sideup66 | has anyone else heard about what happened in the altcoin dogecoin recently |
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| 02:54.08 | sideup66 | apparently yesterday they had a block chain split, someone moved like 500million coins at once and it created a orphan block |
| 02:54.11 | sideup66 | that started a chain lol |
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| 02:54.32 | hdr33 | hi all :) |
| 02:54.36 | venom4k | wow |
| 02:54.52 | venom4k | i cant believe the "coin" catched on |
| 02:54.57 | venom4k | whodathunk |
| 02:54.59 | sideup66 | yeah apparently it was a gambling site that uses cryptocurrency for money |
| 02:55.17 | sideup66 | yeah, its actually gaining traction, thats the purpose of this turd of a laptop im trying to get going |
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| 02:55.50 | sideup66 | be a mining bot, im a college student doing it with some old hardware i rehabilited from the tech graveyard i have, kinda for fun |
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| 02:56.07 | sideup66 | but also figured hey why not put the effort in, if it takes off like the bitcoin it might give me a loan down payment :) |
| 02:56.07 | venom4k | i was thinking of setting up the mining at my schools cumputer class since the computer is always on |
| 02:56.13 | sideup66 | someone did it |
| 02:56.14 | mitrick_rpi | venom4k, do this http://pkgs.org/debian-wheezy/debian-nonfree-i386/firmware-atheros_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb.html |
| 02:56.16 | venom4k | just to give it a try |
| 02:56.30 | sideup66 | there is an it manager at one who setup miners on all the lab boxes on campus to mine for him |
| 02:56.36 | sideup66 | during the summer |
| 02:57.02 | venom4k | @sideup66 , me gusta |
| 02:57.17 | hdr33 | i have stability issue with rdesktop on my debian and my armv7. people have solution ? |
| 02:57.30 | sideup66 | but yeah they had their first rich people problems incident |
| 02:58.18 | sideup66 | they fixed it |
| 02:58.22 | sideup66 | the chain was remerged |
| 02:59.00 | sideup66 | venom4k: ill be really happy if this pays off my loans next fall |
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| 02:59.43 | venom4k | @sideup66 , keep me posted hehe |
| 03:00.01 | sideup66 | its fun, and linux was my prime candidate |
| 03:00.07 | sideup66 | since i can run the miner there and just well let itrun |
| 03:00.10 | abrotman | ahem ... |
| 03:00.11 | abrotman | !ot |
| 03:00.12 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 03:00.16 | sideup66 | winderps could run software too |
| 03:00.21 | abrotman | I don't care where you take it, but not in this channel |
| 03:00.29 | venom4k | iknow this is a debian chat but im actually running crunchbang |
| 03:00.31 | venom4k | :O |
| 03:00.43 | sideup66 | i know abrot, i was explaining the purpose of my project |
| 03:00.51 | abrotman | that took way too long |
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| 03:01.47 | sideup66 | whether it was or wasnt i was finished talking about what i needed to anyway |
| 03:01.53 | venom4k | lol |
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| 03:02.16 | abrotman | venom4k: and you sohuld use #crunchbang-linux please |
| 03:02.19 | hdr33 | some one had same probleme on rdp protocol ? |
| 03:02.24 | sideup66 | your like the old man...get off my lawn XD |
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| 03:03.09 | venom4k | vmware for the win :P |
| 03:03.12 | abrotman | sideup66: this channel has a topic, and supporting distros other than debian is not part of it |
| 03:03.15 | sideup66 | venom4k: isnt crunchbang linux based |
| 03:03.24 | venom4k | its debian based |
| 03:03.31 | abrotman | ... |
| 03:03.33 | venom4k | based on weezy |
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| 03:04.42 | venom4k | @abrot i honestly dont see the big deal , not like theres hundreds of people asking questions. |
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| 03:06.05 | abrotman | venom4k: this channel supports Deiban, not distros based on it. Please use #crunchbang-linux or ##linux. You're offtopic here |
| 03:06.10 | abrotman | Debian |
| 03:06.28 | zinx | or go use twitter since it's based on IRC |
| 03:06.37 | dvs | ha! |
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| 03:07.33 | anton02_ | guys for some reason i get 20mb/s read and 70mb/s write to my samba server |
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| 03:09.11 | sideup66 | abrotman: on topic wise |
| 03:09.38 | sideup66 | will it matter using bootcd on a intel based system and then the main system i need to use is amd based |
| 03:10.01 | abrotman | sideup66: I can't say, I've never used it in such a way. |
| 03:10.10 | sideup66 | i see |
| 03:10.23 | sideup66 | and itll capture a system state with a minimal setup and let me load that |
| 03:11.02 | abrotman | give it a try |
| 03:11.19 | sideup66 | ok, also is there a way to have it disable loading ati radeon drivers? |
| 03:11.42 | abrotman | to do what? have it not load X? |
| 03:12.17 | anton02_ | guys for some reason i get 20mb/s read and 70mb/s write to my samba server |
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| 03:12.20 | sideup66 | well that would be fine, it really only needs to be a minimal system, so any advanced graphical support isnt necessary |
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| 03:17.49 | DeeEff | I'm trying to patch some files from source and then rebuild it using dpkg-buildpackage, but I keep running into errors where it aborts "due to unexpected upstream changes" |
| 03:18.00 | DeeEff | what does this mean? |
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| 03:18.26 | DeeEff | I am using Debian Wheezy 7.3, if it makes any difference |
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| 03:20.52 | DeeEff | Awesome, thanks #debian and abrotman. |
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| 03:33.01 | DeepBlue | hpw to purge xfce DE? |
| 03:33.10 | DeepBlue | how to purge xfce DE? |
| 03:33.16 | abrotman | DeeEff: all worked out ? |
| 03:34.00 | DeeEff | mostly. I had some other issues, I needed to ./configure as well, which I forgot to do |
| 03:34.07 | abrotman | ok |
| 03:34.14 | DeeEff | I'm running this on a vps, so it's taking a while to say the least. |
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| 03:42.16 | stew | DeepBlue: aptitude purge '~sxfce' |
| 03:43.14 | DeepBlue | thanx ,stew |
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| 03:50.24 | sideup66 | ok i just ran bootcdwrite on a base system install |
| 03:50.36 | sideup66 | which it is building now, now is that going to spit out an iso image? |
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| 04:04.57 | Okee | I am in the documents folder of my primary account name, but don't see a method for organizing the files and folders by name, file type, or last modified. Is there a way to do this with xfce, thunar file system, and debian stable? Do I need an add-on? Or do I need to change the file system. File system appears to be a bit primitive. |
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| 04:05.22 | sideup66 | has anyone ever used the bootcd package here before |
| 04:05.26 | sideup66 | and can explain to me what is going on |
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| 04:08.23 | sideup66 | just ran the application for the first time and it is creating somthing |
| 04:08.34 | sideup66 | but can that be used on the hard disk rather than using a cd/dvd image? |
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| 04:11.37 | sideup66 | anyone? |
| 04:11.43 | sideup66 | im confused, it ran some task |
| 04:11.46 | sideup66 | but then just stopped |
| 04:11.49 | sideup66 | what is it doing? |
| 04:11.55 | Okee | sideup66> May i ask why you are using bootcd? I have used similar tools to repair the boot, when doing a dual boot between linuxmint (deb), and Win XP. |
| 04:12.12 | Okee | I think the tool that I used was Kubuntu. |
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| 04:12.41 | sideup66 | okee: im using to create a simple bootable media that can be run on a machine i plan to use for a purpose based task |
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| 04:14.01 | Okee | sideup66> Have you encountered a problem with bootcd? |
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| 04:16.00 | Okee | sideup66> Are you receiving an error message? |
| 04:17.29 | sideup66 | no actually, it just seemed like it did its thing |
| 04:17.33 | sideup66 | my ssh terminal froze lol |
| 04:17.42 | sideup66 | and it spat out some kind of iso file |
| 04:17.45 | sideup66 | so i wasnt sure what happened |
| 04:17.49 | sideup66 | if it just makes it and thats it |
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| 04:17.53 | sideup66 | no confirmation or anything |
| 04:22.54 | sideup66 | also what is the goal of this program |
| 04:23.13 | sideup66 | is it where say, you create the image with whatever configuration you want your system to have and itll boot that way every time? |
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| 04:23.25 | sideup66 | and can it be done from hd rather than a cd/dvd |
| 04:24.03 | wols_ | you run your debian from CD instead of harddisk. clearly says so in the package description |
| 04:24.19 | wols_ | so it seems to take a snapshot of your harddisk and puts it in ISO format for you to burn on cd |
| 04:24.37 | wols_ | it would be pointless to do it from hdd, since you already have that |
| 04:24.50 | sideup66 | i see |
| 04:24.51 | sideup66 | ok |
| 04:25.17 | sideup66 | actually, is there any way to get the system to skip trying to enumerate /dev on every boot |
| 04:25.22 | sideup66 | or will that break alot of things |
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| 04:27.25 | klys | anybody here uses matrox video |
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| 04:31.06 | PryMar56 | klys, I have g550 on deb7 |
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| 04:32.20 | klys | can you help me with my g450 |
| 04:32.46 | klys | I specifically am having trouble with "# apt-cache show matroxset" |
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| 04:33.51 | PryMar56 | klys, that cmd works here |
| 04:34.05 | klys | prymar56 what kernel are you using |
| 04:34.28 | PryMar56 | klys, 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 04:35.03 | dizzylizzy | Is there a way to build only the desired package instead of all packages buildable from a source package, using dpkg-buildpackage? |
| 04:35.05 | klys | prymar56 when does your system modprobe matroxfb_base |
| 04:35.12 | Cohen | hello |
| 04:35.26 | Cohen | 能显示汉语吗 |
| 04:35.32 | well_laid_lawn | heh |
| 04:36.25 | PryMar56 | klys, oh.. let it use the mga driver which has drm. I have a minimal X install with xfce |
| 04:36.34 | klys | prymar56 if you don't know # ls /etc/rcS.d /etc/rc2.d ; and try to pick out the script that doe it for you, unless you do it yourself |
| 04:37.01 | klys | prymar56 also: # lsmod | grep matroxfb |
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| 04:37.09 | PryMar56 | klys, you are server only? no X? |
| 04:37.16 | klys | I can start x |
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| 04:37.50 | PryMar56 | klys, try the default mga |
| 04:38.14 | klys | prymar56 do you have secondary head connected |
| 04:38.44 | PryMar56 | klys, no single sometimes, and headless right now |
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| 04:39.43 | PryMar56 | klys, matroxfb is never used or loaded |
| 04:40.26 | PryMar56 | klys, you are coming from Ubuntu? over there I worried about such framebuffer drivers.. debian is smooth as silk |
| 04:41.05 | klys | prymar56 idc you can explain ubuntu stuff to me if you want |
| 04:42.05 | PryMar56 | klys, you have specific reason to use a framebuffer driver?... oh wait.. many of those are blacklisted in deb7 |
| 04:42.27 | PryMar56 | klys, grep the /etc/modprobe.d |
| 04:42.34 | klys | grep for what |
| 04:43.19 | tomatosalad | hey, when I'm providing missing firmware during a debian install, do I have to extract the files from the .deb or can I just put the .deb in /firmware? |
| 04:43.21 | PryMar56 | klys, I took a look in the folder and there is a file with most of the FB drivers blacklisted |
| 04:43.32 | klys | I changed my x driver to "mga" and now there is something wrong with the mouse cursor |
| 04:43.38 | klys | anyway I may not need that |
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| 04:44.30 | PryMar56 | klys, I only now remembered that fb drivers are deprecated in deb7 |
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| 04:44.36 | [ent] | can someone help me reinstall mysql on debian? |
| 04:44.43 | [ent] | i get all kinds of errors |
| 04:44.50 | [ent] | i have googled for hours |
| 04:45.45 | PryMar56 | klys, grep mat /etc/modprobe.d/fbdev-blacklist.conf ->blacklist matroxfb_base |
| 04:45.56 | kingkongmok | [ent]: post your code here http://bpaste.net/ |
| 04:46.11 | klys | prymar56 I see that file in squeeze and newer. |
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| 04:46.39 | dizzylizzy | [ent]: i guess firstly, what version of debian are you using, and what commands are you trying that are causing the errors |
| 04:46.42 | klys | prymar56 have you ever connected a second head |
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| 04:48.08 | PryMar56 | klys, not on this install |
| 04:48.18 | klys | prymar56, with that card have you |
| 04:48.44 | [ent] | kingkongmok http://bpaste.net/show/4dktTKRRv3W0tRvjFmlC/ |
| 04:48.54 | PryMar56 | klys, yes, its works great in SuSE or Fedora before |
| 04:49.12 | klys | primar56, did the second head always copy the first head |
| 04:49.44 | klys | or were you able to separate them according to your memory |
| 04:49.46 | PryMar56 | klys, I used Xinerama for a huge DT |
| 04:50.03 | klys | so, xinerama gave you tv-out...? |
| 04:50.13 | klys | what is a DT desktop? |
| 04:50.26 | [ent] | dizzylizzy Debian 6 x86 |
| 04:50.30 | PryMar56 | klys, yes desktop. I never tried tv-out |
| 04:50.54 | klys | prymar56 was that with ubuntu, suse, or fedora |
| 04:51.24 | klys | and do you still have your secondary display |
| 04:52.29 | PryMar56 | klys, once I went to the Ubuntu/debian world I wanted to run server only, or minimal desktop. In deb 7 I run a small xfce install so I prefer it |
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| 04:53.08 | klys | so, is your server in a place where it is inconvenient to connect your secondary display |
| 04:53.52 | klys | when I startx (as user) it shows me the same high resolution on both displays. |
| 04:54.05 | klys | just that the cursor is corrupted. |
| 04:54.43 | klys | I remember this issue from before, though I don't know the fix. I just know that I was always using "fbdev" with xorg.conf. |
| 04:55.05 | klys | but it's not want I want to ask you about |
| 04:55.40 | klys | what I wanted to ask you about is how did you get the secondary display to behave differently from the first |
| 04:55.48 | PryMar56 | klys, don't try too hard. Use defaults (without xorg.conf) and see how far you get with matroxset |
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| 04:56.07 | gebi | morning :) |
| 04:56.38 | klys | okay prymar56 it is giving me errors with the third matroxset command in the example. it says "ioctl failed: invalid argument" |
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| 04:56.55 | PryMar56 | klys, drm can be your friend |
| 04:57.17 | klys | "digital rights management" |
| 04:57.36 | PryMar56 | klys, direct rendering manager |
| 04:57.41 | klys | oic |
| 04:57.46 | PryMar56 | lol |
| 04:57.53 | dizzylizzy | [ent]: dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5, what does that do |
| 04:58.43 | dizzylizzy | also, [ent], what did you uninstall and what did you try to reinstall to get that pasted output |
| 04:59.26 | [ent] | dizzylizzy /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mysql-server-5.5 is broken or not fully installed |
| 04:59.41 | dizzylizzy | did you uninstall mysql-server-5.5? |
| 04:59.45 | [ent] | no |
| 04:59.48 | dizzylizzy | and not just the metapackage mysql-server? |
| 05:00.23 | [ent] | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:00.41 | dizzylizzy | perhaps try removing both |
| 05:00.49 | dizzylizzy | then install mysql-server fresh out of the bag |
| 05:01.17 | klys | ok prymar56 I just installed two debian packages and neither one is the kernel. linux-image-486_3.11+54~bpo70+1_i386 and linux-kbuild-2.6.26_2.6.26-2_i386 |
| 05:01.38 | klys | onow I am looking for the kernel on the repos in /debian/pool |
| 05:02.48 | klys | prymar56 is there any way to tell what linux kernel you were using with matroxset |
| 05:03.02 | [ent] | dizzylizzy Your apache2 configuration is broken, so we're not restarting it for you. |
| 05:03.22 | [ent] | how irritating *eye roll* |
| 05:03.44 | dizzylizzy | I'll assume that you do need to keep your configurations and data files for things like apache2 and mysql |
| 05:03.52 | dizzylizzy | would that be right |
| 05:04.37 | tomatosalad | argh, wtf, debian-installer is suddenly telling me that no installable kernel is found in the apt sources, but it worked on a few earlier botched installs |
| 05:04.40 | tomatosalad | wtf? |
| 05:06.08 | [ent] | dizzylizzy http://bpaste.net/show/ZHDwFwIQWs9gq3dssG5w/ |
| 05:08.14 | somiaj | tomatosalad: what are you trying to install? Are you using the testing version (it sometimes has strange bugs) |
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| 05:09.03 | dizzylizzy | [ent]: i'm finding your problem very interesting; I'd be interested in seeing what happens when I run the postinst script manually, see what errors pop up |
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| 05:09.15 | klys | I think I found the lenny one kernel-image-2.6.26-2-486-di and the wheezy one...I can't find |
| 05:09.31 | klys | http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-latest/ ? |
| 05:09.50 | [ent] | hmm |
| 05:09.57 | [ent] | yeah im lost as to what to do next |
| 05:10.02 | [ent] | dizzylizzy |
| 05:10.28 | tomatosalad | somiaj: I'm not using testing |
| 05:10.43 | dizzylizzy | [ent]: check /var/lib/dpkg/info, that contains all the scripts that dpkg runs when managing the packages (preinst,postinst,prerm,postrm) |
| 05:10.45 | tomatosalad | somiaj: and, uh, i386, xfce cd. worked like a charm last night on the same machine/this morning |
| 05:10.57 | dizzylizzy | find the postinst one for mysql-server-5.5 and run it |
| 05:11.15 | dizzylizzy | [ent]: I have to go to bed now, first day of school in the morning, good luck! |
| 05:11.23 | [ent] | ty |
| 05:11.24 | somiaj | tomatosalad: using the same install media and it is now failing? Yea seems strange to me. (: |
| 05:11.48 | tomatosalad | somiaj: I know, it's driving me crazy. I think I can grab the kernel from the console, though |
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| 05:14.12 | [ent] | can anyone help me fix this? http://bpaste.net/show/ZHDwFwIQWs9gq3dssG5w/ |
| 05:14.33 | klys | the file linux-image-486_3.11+54~bpo70+1_i386.deb does not contain a kernel and has no dependencies. I cannot summon the kernel package from reverse-depends using apt-cache showpkg on either linux-image package from wheezy. |
| 05:15.35 | klys | wheezy does not appear to have linux-kernel nor kernel-image packages. |
| 05:17.13 | klys | [ent] edit /etc/init.d/mysql with a text editor and do /etc/init.d/mysql restart until you can determine why it has failed. |
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| 05:19.54 | [ent] | klys http://bpaste.net/show/4Mp1Is6SG4b426DBlCk6/ |
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| 05:22.17 | klys | [ent] edit /etc/init.d/mysql with a text editor and put in stuff like `echo got this far' in the script. |
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| 05:47.16 | [ent] | http://bpaste.net/show/oP8GxwZomZaVYhAxJOOe/ anyone know what to do from here to get mysql running? |
| 05:51.04 | stew | [ent]: is this an upgrade from a previous version? |
| 05:51.15 | [ent] | no |
| 05:51.32 | stew | usually this is that you have an option in my.cnf which is no longer valid |
| 05:51.37 | stew | like skip-bdb |
| 05:52.03 | stew | [ent]: what happens if you run just "mysqld" as root? (it should tell you why it doesn't start) |
| 05:52.10 | [ent] | what folder is my.cnf in? |
| 05:52.12 | stew | /usr/sbin/mysqld that is |
| 05:52.16 | stew | /etc/mysql |
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| 05:52.42 | [ent] | stew: bash: mysqld: command not found |
| 05:52.43 | stew | but that's not the problem if this is not an upgrade |
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| 05:53.14 | stew | [ent]: its in /usr/sbin |
| 05:53.20 | stew | which should really be on root's path |
| 05:53.28 | stew | s/path/PATH/ |
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| 05:58.21 | [ent] | stew: http://bpaste.net/show/2ef4d1hpT2FtHdZ79VYS/ |
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| 06:00.33 | stew | [ent]: there you go: |
| 06:00.33 | stew | 140106 6:33:25 [ERROR] innobase_buffer_pool_size can't be over 4GB on 32-bit systems |
| 06:01.13 | [ent] | where is that setting |
| 06:01.40 | sideup66 | by the way folks, i did get my debian system to boot on the damaged pc finally |
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| 06:01.58 | [ent] | where is that setting stew? |
| 06:02.02 | sideup66 | what I had to do was disable udev, when it would try to enumerate the hardware it was trying to talk to broken bits of the system |
| 06:02.05 | stew | [ent]: /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 06:02.39 | sideup66 | now i just made a clean install which wil hopefully be my last from the netinst cd with an ssh server configured, my plan is to configure the udev setting from a live disc on a healthy system |
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| 06:03.22 | sideup66 | then i just need to configure the network interface at eth0 to load at startup and it should be golden (fingers crossed) |
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| 06:04.17 | benjep_ | Hello all! I have a gigabyte motherboard that supports RAID, but since its not a dedicated controller, I hear I'm better off setting BIOS SAT AHCI, not RAID, and then using Debian Installer to configure software RAID. Is this correct? |
| 06:04.33 | chakka | I am using Debian Wheezy AMD64 with a hand-compiled 3.12.0 kernel - when I go to shutdown the OS, it almost always hangs during the shutdown sequence. This does not happen with the stock wheezy 3.x kernel. Anyone have any ideas 1) what could be causing this or 2) how to debug? |
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| 06:04.52 | stew | [ent]: did you find the setting in there? |
| 06:05.01 | chakka | I am upgrading to 3.12.6 soon, hope that fixes, but have never had to debug a shutdown problem before |
| 06:05.13 | [ent] | stew nope :( |
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| 06:05.38 | stew | [ent]: can you show us my.cnf? |
| 06:05.44 | [ent] | ok |
| 06:05.47 | chakka | by shutdown sequence, I mean when the shutdown init scripts are going |
| 06:05.57 | benjep_ | chakka: Does /var/log/messages give you any info? |
| 06:06.33 | stew | benjep: if it is not real RAID, but fakeraid, that is probably correct |
| 06:06.52 | chakka | let me go take a look at /var/log/messsages.... I assume that I'll have to look in messages.0 - i think that gets rotated at boot time |
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| 06:07.29 | stew | chakka: /var/log/messages isn't typically rotated at boot time |
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| 06:08.42 | shawnbon206 | http://www.amazon.com/lm/RQ5BH745N3VAJ/ref=cm_lm_pthnk_view?ie=UTF8&lm_bb |
| 06:09.31 | chakka | ok, I see some stuff in messages.2 - there are kernel panics, it looks like. would you like me to pastepin them? |
| 06:11.05 | benjep | thank you stew , that helps me know i'm on the right track. |
| 06:11.34 | benjep | chakka: i've got a few minutes while xen installs, i'll take a look at your kernal panics |
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| 06:12.28 | [ent] | stew: http://bpaste.net/show/kaSthurlNcTJVhct3DZZ/ |
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| 06:14.24 | chakka | thank you, @benjep, pastebin is: http://pastebin.com/KnZv1LD6 |
| 06:14.54 | chakka | im not sure those are the messages from shutdown or not, but its all I have at the moment. |
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| 06:16.50 | benjep | sorry chakka , I don;t think I'm going to be much help. Thats greek to me |
| 06:18.13 | chakka | its funny, it looks like a disk error, but I am getting it on several identical machines... no way all those sda1 partitons |
| 06:18.29 | chakka | could be bad at the same time. Thanks for looking anyway & happy neu yr! |
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| 06:19.57 | stew | [ent]: weird |
| 06:20.07 | shawnbon206 | is there an easy place to find gnome 3 themes? |
| 06:20.12 | stew | [ent]: i would try explicitly setting innodb_buffer_pool_size |
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| 06:21.08 | stew | [ent]: do you use innodb? how much memory is on the box, is it planned that this box will do other things besides mysql? |
| 06:21.15 | [ent] | stew: to what? innodb_buffer_pool_size = BLAH ? |
| 06:21.17 | stew | this is stuff that should be tuned anyway? |
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| 06:22.37 | stew | [ent]: are your tables going to be primary innodb or myisam? |
| 06:22.54 | stew | ^primary^primarily |
| 06:23.01 | [ent] | idk |
| 06:23.26 | stew | can you check? |
| 06:23.51 | [ent] | how? |
| 06:24.05 | stew | look at the create table statements? |
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| 06:24.19 | stew | i supposed "ask the DBA" isn't going to happen |
| 06:24.30 | stew | how much memory is on the box? |
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| 06:24.34 | [ent] | hmm |
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| 06:24.40 | stew | is it going to do stuff other than mysql? |
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| 06:24.46 | [ent] | half a meg |
| 06:24.55 | [ent] | nvm |
| 06:25.07 | [ent] | he memory is 500 MB |
| 06:25.09 | [ent] | the* |
| 06:25.14 | stew | then try innodb_buffer_pool_size=2M or something |
| 06:25.14 | [ent] | yes |
| 06:25.23 | stew | and that means that innodb performance will be horrible |
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| 06:26.41 | stew | this is strange though, i'm not sure where the larger buffer size is coming from |
| 06:26.46 | stew | that is messing up runnign mysqld |
| 06:26.54 | stew | the default should be < 4g |
| 06:26.55 | [ent] | stew: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock <- this mysqld.sock does not exist |
| 06:27.29 | stew | i woudn't expect it to exist until /etc/init.d/mysql restart succeeeds |
| 06:27.44 | stew | since a running mysql is what creates the socket |
| 06:28.15 | [ent] | oh yeah |
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| 06:29.56 | stew | the fact that mysql still has a myisam and innodb distinction is really bullshit |
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| 06:30.07 | stew | it should all be innodb at by now |
| 06:30.26 | nkuttler | there are even more than those two |
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| 06:31.11 | bullgard4 | Viewing the contents of /var/log/boot.0 using mc > F3 will dispay a lot of '^[[' character strings. What pager will interpret and display them more intelligently? |
| 06:32.19 | stew | nkuttler: really? |
| 06:32.26 | stew | i'm glad I don't admin mysql anymore |
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| 06:32.40 | stew | in fact my current job we don't use any sql dbs |
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| 06:34.49 | nkuttler | stew: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/storage-engines.html, though myisam and innodb are the big ones |
| 06:35.25 | nkuttler | bullgard4: see man less, various options for escape sequences |
| 06:35.46 | nkuttler | bullgard4: or wait.. you want syntax highlighting? |
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| 06:36.13 | bullgard4 | nkuttler: I do not want syntax highlighting necessarily. |
| 06:36.18 | [ent] | stew: http://bpaste.net/show/AfKg4HowgTqwlO71xMt1/ any ideas? |
| 06:38.25 | bullgard4 | nkuttler: Yu know this contents will be displayed at Debian start time in the (Xfce) graphical environment more adequately but in a much too short time. |
| 06:38.38 | bullgard4 | s/Yu/You/ |
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| 06:39.27 | shawnbon206 | yo |
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| 06:40.31 | stew | [ent]: what happens when you run /usr/sbin/mysqld? |
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| 06:41.46 | stew | nkuttler: BLACKHOLE! |
| 06:42.21 | stew | wth is "PERFORMANCE_SCHEMA"? |
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| 06:45.49 | [ent] | stew: http://bpaste.net/show/VQuvdHbnGYPVv8k3oN1l/ |
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| 06:47.35 | PryMar56 | [ent], when I setup LAMP on deb 7, the only trouble I had was mysql started after apache2 in /etc/rc2.d. I had to fix the sequence numbers |
| 06:47.42 | bullgard4 | I read 'man less'. Apparently less looks for a closing ']' when interpreting '['. |
| 06:49.04 | [ent] | PryMar56 what does that mean? |
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| 06:49.44 | PryMar56 | [ent],I had apache2 startup scripts that needed mysql to start first |
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| 06:49.51 | [ent] | oh |
| 06:51.02 | PryMar56 | [ent], first time in any linux install I had to troubleshoot that problem. It was necessary to edit the init script for mysql |
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| 06:54.24 | PryMar56 | wrong - I changed the apache2 init.d script |
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| 06:58.08 | shawnbon206 | yo |
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| 06:58.13 | PebkacJones | haha |
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| 07:21.50 | mintgreen | the UTUBE videos are not working .it says'an error occured.'how to solve this? |
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| 07:28.22 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Hi, its again me... long time no see that channel (User moved to gentoo and fbsd) |
| 07:28.35 | LoCoZeNoz_ZUE | Can i do a full offline install from debian-7.3.0-i386-xfce-CD-1.iso? |
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| 07:35.37 | klys | prymar56: I have it working now. but I am looking for a utility I used to use, which is invoked with "./matrox" |
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| 07:37.33 | klys | dpkg: g450 is also http://directfb.org/wiki/index.php/Matrox_G400_Dual_Head#Matroxset |
| 07:37.34 | dpkg | klys: that's too long |
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| 07:43.34 | sideup66 | hello room if anyone is still around |
| 07:43.56 | sideup66 | does anyone know how to disable programs from init.d if your just editing the files? |
| 07:44.26 | klys | for example: # chmod -x /etc/init.d/apache2 |
| 07:44.53 | sideup66 | yes, i want to control what is run at startup |
| 07:45.11 | klys | that should disable them at startup. |
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| 07:45.26 | sideup66 | but the system is not booted |
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| 07:45.42 | sideup66 | oh just disable their execute permission you mean |
| 07:45.48 | klys | as long as you don't get an error from it, it will work |
| 07:45.53 | klys | yes |
| 07:45.55 | sideup66 | ok |
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| 07:46.00 | sideup66 | thanks |
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| 07:46.10 | sideup66 | this is kinda a weird setup hence the strange way of changing settings |
| 07:46.22 | sideup66 | its for a machine with a crippled hw lol |
| 07:46.45 | sideup66 | not drive, the motherboard is a bit sick, but its a purpose machine so it doesnt need creature comforts and one of the services i need to kill is udev |
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| 07:48.33 | sideup66 | thanks :) |
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| 07:53.29 | Zambezi | I need to crop some scanned documents (*.pnm). Gimp's not starting (only as root). Any other application I can use? |
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| 07:58.01 | sideup66 | ok i still cant get the system to go online, i guess that will be tomorrows adventure |
| 07:58.04 | sideup66 | gnight everyone |
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| 08:12.05 | lxsameer | hi, i'm missing "asm" in /usr/include/ and when i want to compiling anything gcc complain about missing headers, I'm on sid and kernel 3.12 and i installed header files |
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| 08:22.10 | pikaro | hi! I noticed that experimental has mono 3.2.3, which is mono's latest stable release. mono 3.0.6 (sid) has a bad bug, so can I install the experimental packets in sid? or what exactly is alpha about them if the mono project calls this version stable? |
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| 08:54.30 | eg0x | hey guys. i`ve got a "problem" with a debian wheezy machine. since a couple of weeks i dont get any upgrades for packages via apt-get. my source.list: http://nopaste.info/173fb4a0e8.html |
| 08:56.53 | eg0x | i dont know if its a real problem, therefore i put it in " - just a strange feeling that there`re no updates since a couple of weeks |
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| 08:59.17 | ompaul | eg0x: maybe you run no packages that need updating - try this you can remove it afterward |
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| 08:59.40 | ompaul | eg0x: apt-get install bsdgames |
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| 09:00.04 | ompaul | eg0x: I assume you do apt-get update first |
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| 09:00.46 | eg0x | ompaul: i sucessfully installed another program before - did apt-get update && dist-upgrade - no new packages |
| 09:00.57 | eg0x | ompaul: do you know whats the actual kernel of wheezy? |
| 09:01.04 | ompaul | ,kernels |
| 09:01.05 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.13-rc6-686-pae (3.13~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 3.12-1-686-pae (3.12.6-2); jessie: 3.12-1-686-pae (3.12.6-2); wheezy-backports: 3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.11.10-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.51-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.51-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
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| 09:01.31 | ompaul | eg0x: once it goes stable you shouldn't (all things being equal) see too many updates |
| 09:02.02 | eg0x | ompaul: okay :) i think iam just to paranoic :D |
| 09:02.05 | eg0x | thanks for your help |
| 09:02.15 | klys | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.19 | klys | nm. that |
| 09:02.26 | klys | I was trying to do it |
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| 09:03.14 | ompaul | a running commentary from the continuous stream of consciousness |
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| 09:22.06 | rendar | i have constantly a low of kworkers processes (like 30), but how i can see that they're doing, and which process calls them? |
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| 09:28.32 | flos | rendar, maybe you should use systemtap |
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| 09:29.00 | rendar | flos, whats that? |
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| 09:29.54 | flos | rendar, sourceware.org/systemtap |
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| 09:32.56 | rendar | flos, i'm watching that, i have to learn a language to see what's happening in my system?! |
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| 09:33.57 | flos | rendar, as you are asking 'kworkers' -- kernel threads, right? so, i think the systemtap should help. |
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| 09:35.23 | rendar | flos, yeah but there isn't a shorter way? like a tool that prints on screen what in the kernel run those kworkers? i don't have too much time to dedicate to this, even if stap is a very interesting tool |
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| 09:40.18 | flos | rendar, hmm.. maybe, if you find a better way, please let me know. |
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| 09:41.43 | rendar | flos, ok :) |
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| 09:42.13 | flos | rendar, :) |
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| 10:01.18 | PebkacJones | debian sucks |
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| 10:12.36 | nicolas_ | I would like to add some repositories to my apt-get sources.list. As I'm using an old version of apt-get I can't use add-apt-repository. And my problem is adding my ppa: source is not working |
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| 10:19.43 | ksk | nicolas_: ppa is ubuntu, this is #debian - and you are probably using debian |
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| 10:24.37 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
| 10:25.07 | ShapeShifter499 | I want to return all my packages back to "stable" but I can't seem to make it happen |
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| 10:25.52 | ShapeShifter499 | shouldn't apt-pinning the stable repos above 1000 make it so my system will install those packages even if it's a "downgrade"? |
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| 10:26.26 | ompaul | !downgrade |
| 10:26.26 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 10:27.24 | nicolas_ | ksk : yes I'm "using" debian (I don't know linux really), and I would like to install Node.js. Reading the instruction, they say to add a ppa: source... |
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| 10:27.52 | ksk | nicolas_: ppa is a ubuntu thingy and not supported by debian |
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| 10:28.06 | petern_ | Using the wrong instructions there. |
| 10:28.23 | ksk | !tell nicolas_ about nodejs |
| 10:28.36 | ompaul | nicolas_: you read debian specific notes for debian, you do not do anything other than that or you will end up with frankendebian or if you prefer something nobody can support and when broken you get to keep the pieces |
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| 10:29.07 | ompaul | nicolas_: this is not a windows like world, it behaves according to different rules |
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| 10:33.25 | babilen | dpkg: tell nicolas_ -about ppa |
| 10:33.48 | babilen | nicolas_: I'd recommend to read http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/ |
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| 10:34.35 | PebkacJones | can I run outlook express on debian? |
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| 10:34.50 | Kuba | PebkacJones: check wine app database |
| 10:35.00 | PebkacJones | where is that |
| 10:35.50 | Kuba | PebkacJones: http://appdb.winehq.org/; note however that wine is an emulator and generally you should use native software, like Thunderbird |
| 10:35.56 | babilen | winhq.org, but I would recommend to look into alternatives (e.g. evolution) and other ways to access your mail/calendars too |
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| 10:36.54 | Radon_3 | hi everone |
| 10:37.06 | Kuba | Radon_3: hey |
| 10:37.10 | Radon_3 | I have a problem with debian |
| 10:37.13 | Radon_3 | Can you help me? |
| 10:37.16 | Radon_3 | please |
| 10:37.28 | Kuba | Radon_3: do not ask to ask |
| 10:37.32 | Radon_3 | ok |
| 10:37.44 | Radon_3 | I have installed the system on my drive |
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| 10:38.26 | nicolas_ | I've found a specific documentation for nodejs under debian, thanks |
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| 10:39.08 | babilen | nicolas_: nodejs *is* available in Debian right away |
| 10:39.14 | babilen | judd: v nodejs |
| 10:39.15 | judd | Package: nodejs on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 0.10.21~dfsg1-1~bpo7+1; jessie: 0.10.24~dfsg1-1; sid: 0.10.24~dfsg1-1 |
| 10:39.32 | Radon_3 | I have installed debian, but the display doesn't show thing correctly, I can't even run the included browser, cause all I get is just a blue layaer |
| 10:39.46 | babilen | nicolas_: You have to enable backports (follow http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/) and then run "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install nodejs" and you are done. |
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| 10:40.06 | PebkacJones | can I run debian on macbook air? |
| 10:40.29 | auberginer | yes but you have much trouble |
| 10:40.40 | PebkacJones | k |
| 10:40.46 | PebkacJones | what's the best laptop for debian? |
| 10:40.49 | mrmr | v pcsxr |
| 10:40.51 | PebkacJones | how about T430 ? |
| 10:40.57 | Radon_3 | I can't even change the settings, cause again I only get a blueish layer |
| 10:41.01 | babilen | mrmr: "/msg judd v pcsxr" please |
| 10:41.53 | Kuba | PebkacJones: you might find this site helpful: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn |
| 10:42.03 | PebkacJones | thanks Kuba |
| 10:42.06 | rozie | Radon_3: does cli mode run OK? |
| 10:42.25 | Radon_3 | rozie: what is that? |
| 10:42.39 | rozie | non GUI. text mode |
| 10:42.40 | PebkacJones | my page does not exist |
| 10:42.41 | PebkacJones | ok |
| 10:42.43 | PebkacJones | debian sucks. |
| 10:43.00 | babilen | PebkacJones: Please, keep it civilized |
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| 10:43.03 | Radon_3 | rozie: yes |
| 10:43.06 | Radon_3 | I think |
| 10:43.07 | rozie | PEBKAC indeed |
| 10:43.10 | PebkacJones | fu babilen |
| 10:43.11 | Kuba | PebkacJones: but Thinkpads are generally quite well supported, see also http://thinkwiki.org/; I personally own t420s and I'm having some problems with wifi drivers for Intel 6300 |
| 10:43.14 | Radon_3 | cause only in GUI the problem starts |
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| 10:43.17 | ikonia | PebkacJones: you've been banned from multiple channels for this - your in #ubuntu #archlinux #macosx #debian saying "debian sucks" and trolling - give it a rest please |
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| 10:43.48 | Kuba | lol |
| 10:44.01 | rozie | Radon_3: please provide hardware and driver details |
| 10:44.15 | rozie | lspci, lspci -n on pastebin |
| 10:44.33 | Radon_3 | rozie:I am on Nvidia 5800 G-force 128MB, 700 MB ram, 3.2 GHz CPU |
| 10:44.42 | rozie | /var/log/Xorg.0.log on pastebin too |
| 10:45.01 | Radon_3 | Also I am currently using, a live Ubuntu CD, cause can't use debian at all in its current state |
| 10:45.06 | Kuba | 700MB ram and 3.2 Ghz CPI? :p |
| 10:45.36 | rozie | Kuba: lxde works with no problem on such a hardware |
| 10:45.49 | Kuba | ok |
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| 10:46.34 | Radon_3 | rozie: can I do that here in Ubuntu live cd? |
| 10:46.42 | rozie | no |
| 10:46.55 | rozie | but you can check which driver does Ubuntu use |
| 10:47.12 | Radon_3 | rozie: but how can I log into debian, when I can't log into debian? |
| 10:47.25 | rozie | and copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 10:47.42 | Radon_3 | rozie: ok tell me what to do then |
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| 10:48.30 | rozie | put output of lspci, lspci -n, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf, lsmod on pastebin |
| 10:48.36 | Radon_3 | Cause the moment I log into debian, all the items on the screen seem like they are encrypted, and they don't look right at all |
| 10:48.48 | rozie | you can use text mode |
| 10:49.10 | Radon_3 | rozie: ok, if I use text mode, will I be able to come here at the same time? |
| 10:49.23 | rozie | but first 11:48 < rozie> put output of lspci, lspci -n, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf, lsmod on pastebin |
| 10:49.27 | rozie | from Ubuntu |
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| 10:53.03 | Radon_3 | rozie: it gave me this: http://www.heypasteit.com/clip/14B2 |
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| 10:53.47 | Radon_3 | anything useful in there? |
| 10:53.53 | Radon_3 | Did I do it right? |
| 10:54.49 | Radon_3 | rozie: you there? |
| 10:54.52 | adkins42 | hello, i have bus-errors ocassionally and whenever i have one of them i get a bus-error after every command i throw in terminal and after a while the machine freezes (i have a german debian wheezy distro, so the error is unfortunately named a little different in terminal: "Bus-Zugriffsfehler". i cannot grep name this in my logs. in the logs its all in english, so i hope i found the real... |
| 10:54.54 | adkins42 | ...issue by grepping "bus-error". I`m getting this: http://pastebin.com/MDZ6DCgt |
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| 10:56.15 | adkins42 | i also got this frozen one: |
| 10:56.27 | adkins42 | http://pastebin.com/bwuQ8Tqs |
| 10:56.46 | ChrisH | adkins42: sounds like a dead/dying disk |
| 10:56.48 | adkins42 | does these errors descripe my symptoms |
| 10:56.50 | adkins42 | ? |
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| 10:58.55 | Radon_3 | how can I start debian in text mode? |
| 10:59.47 | rozie | Radon_3: ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 10:59.51 | adkins42 | ChrisH: thank you. http://paste.debian.net/74512/ |
| 11:00.17 | rozie | Radon_3: and this are separate commands |
| 11:00.21 | rozie | comma separated |
| 11:00.34 | Radon_3 | rozie: when should I press ctrl-alt-f1? |
| 11:00.52 | adkins42 | ChrisH: not sure if i am on the right path since you say these errors say something not concerning my errors but i found this: http://iwtf.net/2011/05/19/western-digital-sata-errors-under-linux/ |
| 11:01.03 | adkins42 | ChrisH: i have a Western Digital..... |
| 11:01.05 | rozie | Radon_3: any time |
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| 11:01.21 | Radon_3 | ok, so I am going there then |
| 11:01.25 | Radon_3 | brb |
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| 11:01.50 | adkins42 | ChrisH: i also did a long test with smartmontools and i couldnt ffind anything strange |
| 11:02.15 | ChrisH | adkins42: how many disks are there attached? 2 internal 500GB and 1 external? |
| 11:02.38 | adkins42 | two 500 ones and one 1TB |
| 11:02.46 | adkins42 | the 1TB is external |
| 11:02.50 | adkins42 | the 500s are internal |
| 11:02.58 | ChrisH | adkins42: In that dmesg there is nothing strange. reproduce the problem and show us the dmesg again. |
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| 11:03.29 | adkins42 | ChrisH: dont know how to reproduce this ;( |
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| 11:04.22 | adkins42 | since dmesg doesnt show anything strange now, i dont think it will in the future, since this happens like 3 times already |
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| 11:05.46 | adkins42 | ChrisH: what about the other error messages i gave you........are they normal? |
| 11:07.43 | adkins42 | ChrisH: in this http://iwtf.net/2011/05/19/western-digital-sata-errors-under-linux/ the author is also posting frozen and ata bus errors and saying something about Western Digital Issues with noncq.....can this not be the cause? |
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| 11:09.24 | adkins42 | what lets me doubt about this, is that the machine is running already for months. what makes me rather believe of a disk-dying issue. But how can i find this out if not with smartmontools? |
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| 11:15.55 | rozie | adkins42: why not with smartmontools? |
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| 11:16.26 | adkins42 | rozie: cannot find any errors/trouble values with that |
| 11:16.29 | rozie | just run smartclt -A /device |
| 11:16.31 | ChrisH | adkins42: smartmontools are tools which need to rely on the disk detecting problem. My experience with SMART is not very positive in both ways. I had false positives and false negatives. Dead disks still showing healthy and vice versa |
| 11:16.43 | rozie | and compare it to wiki |
| 11:17.02 | adkins42 | ChrisH: what else can i use? |
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| 11:18.21 | ChrisH | adkins42: create load and observe the system. Make sure the backups are up to date. Show dmesg it happens next time. I use dd to read the full disk once a month to force the disks to check every sector |
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| 11:18.46 | ShapeShifter499 | do I need to specify APT::Default-Release "stable"; in apt.conf to use apt-pinning correctly guys? |
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| 11:22.15 | iKb | i want to create an install script that answer to debconf question |
| 11:22.24 | iKb | questions* |
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| 11:23.28 | adkins42 | ChrisH: ok i`m doin that. Can i do dd while giving a folder on another disk as target? so not just another disk but a folder on a disk. seems not to work..... |
| 11:24.32 | ShapeShifter499 | anyone? |
| 11:24.41 | phix | ShapeShifter499: I am some one! |
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| 11:25.00 | ShapeShifter499 | phix :/ |
| 11:25.20 | phix | ShapeShifter499: no, you can use /etc/apt/preferences or /etc/apt/preferences.d/stablepinning.conf or whatever |
| 11:25.41 | ChrisH | adkins42: you want to run: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=2048k ; replace sda with the correct disk... IIRC sda and sdb |
| 11:25.51 | phix | ShapeShifter499: hehe no need for a :/ I was being helpful too as well as a smart ass :) |
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| 11:26.26 | adkins42 | ChrisH: where does this copy the whole disk to? |
| 11:26.40 | adkins42 | nowhere but reads all data one? |
| 11:26.44 | adkins42 | once* |
| 11:26.57 | ShapeShifter499 | phix do you happen to know why I couldn't downgrade a few packages from testing to stable untill I removed the apt default release variable? |
| 11:27.30 | ChrisH | adkins42: genau... it simply reads the disk to /dev/null |
| 11:27.43 | adkins42 | ChrisH: are u german? |
| 11:27.51 | adkins42 | ;) |
| 11:28.41 | ShapeShifter499 | phix, I didn't think I needed that variable but most online documents about apt pinning suggested to use it |
| 11:28.46 | adkins42 | what if i have to partitions? sdb1 and sdb2. shall i still just do dd if=/dev/sdb or just dd the partition i have my system on? sdb2 is swap partition |
| 11:28.46 | phix | If you specify the package and the version you wish to pin it too in /etc/apt/preference or /etc/apt/preferences.d/* it should override the default-release option, if not just get rid of default-release and put a pin: * line in your preferences / preferences.d/* file |
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| 11:29.18 | phix | s/ preference / preferences / |
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| 11:30.01 | ShapeShifter499 | phix I should be fine if I pin a few packages but keep stable pinned higher than all others |
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| 11:31.11 | phix | ShapeShifter499: pin your packages higher or lower, depending if you want to use stable or testing :) |
| 11:31.13 | ShapeShifter499 | phix, I only need a newer kernel and it's dependencies |
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| 11:32.16 | rozie | ShapeShifter499: use backports |
| 11:32.41 | ChrisH | adkins42: yes, and you mentioned before you are running a german localized version |
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| 11:33.14 | adkins42 | ChrisH: what if i have two partitions? sdb1 and sdb2. shall i still just do dd if=/dev/sdb or just dd the partition i have my system on? sdb2 is swap partition |
| 11:33.16 | ShapeShifter499 | phix well my apt pin preferences seems to be working as expected after removing the apt default release line |
| 11:33.25 | phix | ShapeShifter499: yes, use backports before testing or unstable :) |
| 11:33.38 | phix | ShapeShifter499: assuming the kernel you want is in there |
| 11:34.12 | ShapeShifter499 | phix, rozie I'm using a debian supported (by the dev not the community) alternate kernel that required newer gcc packages to install |
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| 11:34.37 | ChrisH | adkins42: you want to read the DISK not a PARTITION. Disk is sda,sdb partition is sda1 OK? |
| 11:34.42 | ShapeShifter499 | phix those packages were found in testing |
| 11:34.54 | phix | ShapeShifter499: are they also in backports? |
| 11:34.57 | adkins42 | ChrisH: alright |
| 11:35.02 | phix | ShapeShifter499: wheezy-backports |
| 11:35.05 | ShapeShifter499 | er experimental/sid |
| 11:35.13 | ShapeShifter499 | phix no I looked |
| 11:35.13 | phix | oh |
| 11:35.15 | phix | ok |
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| 11:35.30 | adkins42 | ChrisH: starting now......will the error if it occures be in dmesg for sure? |
| 11:35.56 | ChrisH | adkins42: it should |
| 11:36.28 | ShapeShifter499 | phix I happened to also be messing with other packages but I wanted to downgrade them back to stable and I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't downgrade after messing with my apt-pin preferences |
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| 11:37.03 | ShapeShifter499 | phix in any case everything seems to be sorted out now, thank you for the help :D |
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| 11:38.11 | phix | ShapeShifter499: any time :D |
| 11:38.39 | adkins42 | ChrisH: thx, hope it will happen and be logged ;) |
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| 11:39.30 | adkins42 | ChrisH: How long will 50gb probably take? few hours? whole day? |
| 11:40.20 | adkins42 | oh dd will copy the whole 500gb right? |
| 11:40.48 | ChrisH | adkins42: depending on the speed of the disk I assume it will take hours. If it takes different times on both disks this indicates an issue with the slower one |
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| 11:43.10 | toni__ | hi! |
| 11:44.52 | toni__ | I have a problem with my raid1 on Wheezy desktop machine, which starts as unclean in about 4/5 of all cases. smart shows nothing wrong, the disks should be quite good. |
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| 11:45.37 | toni__ | Any ideas, please? The daily resync does not only undermine the point of having a raid in the first place, |
| 11:45.46 | toni__ | it also massively impacts performance. |
| 11:46.13 | toni__ | It also takes many hours to complete. |
| 11:46.29 | ChrisH | toni__: did you ask this before a few days ago? |
| 11:46.42 | toni__ | ChrisH: no |
| 11:46.59 | toni__ | I did not talk on this channel for several weeks or months |
| 11:47.11 | toni__ | (cant remember) |
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| 11:47.37 | toni__ | But you seem to have a pointer? |
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| 11:51.16 | ChrisH | toni__: we had such a question a while ago and IIRC we did not get to a point. |
| 11:51.50 | toni__ | ChrisH: hmmm... you mean, with me? |
| 11:52.23 | toni__ | I mean, I think this is a serious problem, but I do not know how to combat it. |
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| 11:52.45 | toni__ | Or whom to talk to. I have a suspicion that the disks do not get properly synced on shutdown, |
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| 11:52.58 | toni__ | but my attempts in this direction have not yet been fruitful. |
| 11:53.00 | ChrisH | toni__: with the root cause of the resync. |
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| 11:54.09 | toni__ | ChrisH: Ok... what do you suggest that I can try to gain enough material to file a bug report somewhere - |
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| 11:54.18 | toni__ | and one that does not immediately get shot down? |
| 11:54.44 | toni__ | (I did not try yet, because I want to avoid this situation) |
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| 11:55.26 | ChrisH | toni__: honestly I have no idea how to proceed here. I hope for someone else to jump in |
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| 11:55.57 | fluffyTail | fdasfsdf;lasdf;lkjas;kdlfj |
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| 11:56.25 | fluffyTail | oh ye faithful debian users, i have knowledge from god |
| 11:56.47 | toni__ | ChrisH: My suspicion is that this might be a kernel/hardware problem (eg. disks lying about when they have written stuff to the platters). |
| 11:56.55 | fluffyTail | god told me, metaleer has no business moderating channels on freenode |
| 11:57.05 | fluffyTail | yea, thats what god said |
| 11:57.11 | jubo2 | fluffyTail: the Bible is full of that |
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| 11:57.23 | toni__ | but debugging such an issue is well beyond my abilities. |
| 11:57.51 | toni__ | So far, I tried different kernels, but this issue does not change. |
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| 11:58.06 | fluffyTail | god told me also that he wants metaleer's head to be sawed off his body |
| 11:58.11 | ChrisH | !ops fluffyTail offtopic |
| 11:58.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: chrish complains about: fluffyTail offtopic |
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| 12:03.18 | Radon_3 | rozie: hi again |
| 12:03.26 | Radon_3 | I am ready to be helped |
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| 12:05.30 | Radon_3 | I am in Debian, but I am running on a very low definition display quality. Also I don't know where, or how I should install a display driver for my old Nvidia Gforce |
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| 12:06.32 | Radon_3 | I am on Nvidia GForceFX 5500 |
| 12:07.32 | Radon_3 | I am only disturbing you about this, cause the last time I installed nvidia display driver on Ubuntu, I lost it all! I don't want that to happen to debian |
| 12:07.36 | Radon_3 | What should I do? |
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| 12:09.48 | ebhtura_ | take a backup... |
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| 12:11.08 | ChrisH | Radon_3: run /msg dpkg nvidia and follow the bots instructions. I needed to upgrade the kernel with my old Dell Notebook and Debian stable to get my dual screen setup working again after uprgrade from squeeze to wheezy. |
| 12:12.06 | Radon_3 | you sure that wouldn't cause losing this even low def picture? |
| 12:12.15 | Radon_3 | Cause I don't want that |
| 12:12.33 | mrmr | guys what vnc viewer would you recommend? |
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| 12:13.44 | ChrisH | Radon_3: it should not, but I cannot promise anything. I personally would first upgrade the kernel to something from backports |
| 12:14.06 | Radon_3 | how can I do that? |
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| 12:15.49 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell Radon_3 about bdo kernel |
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| 12:17.37 | mintgreen | the activities button hangs and i can't toggle between activities overview and the workspace windows.how to fix? |
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| 12:18.53 | Akanone | Yello, after sucessfuly installed debian on a sda4 mnt using debootstrap(recovery mode), i am able to remotly access via SSH on normal mode, but apt-get, chmod and editting files says "file system write only", how can this be fixed? |
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| 12:20.01 | ChrisH | Akanone: did you boot the debootstrap'ed system? if yes try: mount -o remount,rw / |
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| 12:21.12 | Akanone | yes, sda4 its being loaded @ boot... do i try that under normal mode, or back to recover mode + chroot? |
| 12:22.25 | Akanone | in normal mode with the debootstra'ed system it gives me the following error: |
| 12:22.26 | Akanone | mount: / not mounted or bad option |
| 12:22.41 | ChrisH | Akanone: you might want to show us: dmesg; cat /proc/mounts ; cat /etc/fstab ; and you need to run that when the system is booted from sda4 |
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| 12:27.24 | bullgard4 | Debian 7.3 prints on an HP Officejet 5610 All-in-One black-white too pale. Where can I find a color saturation control button? |
| 12:27.50 | Akanone | ChrisH: dmesg is having 1 ln with (Nothing has been logged yet.) |
| 12:27.51 | Akanone | ChrisH: (/proc/mounts) http://pastebin.com/Gv7vK4PF |
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| 12:27.56 | Akanone | ChrisH: (/etc/fstab) http://pastebin.com/hw9PcGED |
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| 12:29.22 | ChrisH | Akanone: strange... mount -o remount,rw / ; please try that again and show command incl. output on paste.debian.net |
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| 12:42.00 | ChrisH | Akanone: I just found a line: /dev/disk/by-uuid/9d8cb4fc-494d-43c1-8678-a6a65e724852 / ext4 ro,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 this is read-only. modify your fstab as follows and retry: https://paste.debian.net/74524/ |
| 12:43.21 | Radon_3 | I need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list as root, is there anyway for me to do htat? |
| 12:43.27 | Radon_3 | *that |
| 12:44.16 | ChrisH | sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list or su - ; vi /etc/apt/sources.list ; or what are you asking for? |
| 12:45.19 | Radon_3 | I am trying to install Nvidia drivers using this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#wheezy-173xx |
| 12:45.25 | Radon_3 | Should I carry on? |
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| 12:46.09 | ChrisH | Radon_3: did you try with a newer kernel from backports? |
| 12:46.57 | Radon_3 | that thing scares me a bit, cuse it says that system might become unstable |
| 12:47.22 | Radon_3 | I mean backports |
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| 12:48.14 | ompaul | Radon_3: might and likely hood are two different things. |
| 12:48.52 | ChrisH | Radon_3: installing a newer kernel is less invasive as you simply can remove it and boot the old kernel. Installing NVidia drivers is more pain.... potentially. |
| 12:48.53 | Radon_3 | Well, I don't like taking risks :) |
| 12:49.06 | ChrisH | Radon_3: then go for the kernel from backports! |
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| 12:49.12 | ompaul | Radon_3: if an older kernel works on hardware, it is extremely unlikely that a newer one will not. |
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| 12:49.28 | babilen | Radon_3: A backported kernel is typically one of the safest things to install - I really wouldn't worry about it and please keep in mind that "stable" simply means "not changing" in the context of Debian |
| 12:49.32 | ompaul | Radon_3: the thing is to quantify the risk. |
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| 12:50.48 | Radon_3 | I personally like to play it safe (please don't tell me to kiss your asses, then) :) |
| 12:50.54 | hassen_ | duh...when the adobe flash player info gets echoed (offering for me whether i want to allow or deny my mic usage) the site9(any site) just freezes there |
| 12:50.57 | hassen_ | like this one |
| 12:51.00 | hassen_ | http://vocaroo.com/ |
| 12:51.10 | babilen | Radon_3: Please also note that newer nvidia drivers are available from backports and that these drivers incorporate a bunch of patches from Valve that really increase their performance. I'd also recommend to use them. (aptitude -t wheezy-backports -r install nvidia-kernel-dkms) -- See https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers for details |
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| 12:51.51 | sigblast | how to install java runtime in debian ? |
| 12:52.00 | babilen | dpkg: tell sigblast -about install java |
| 12:52.09 | ompaul | Radon_3: there is a difference between playing it safe and never going outside the front door. (staying inside is statistically a more dangerous thing to do) |
| 12:52.39 | babilen | Radon_3: But then you still haven't said why the instructions on the wiki you linked earlier don't work for you or what the problems are you encountered. |
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| 12:53.18 | Radon_3 | dpkg: tell Radon_3 -about install java |
| 12:53.22 | babilen | Radon_3: I would have expected those instructions to work without problems and am a bit surprised that you (apparently?) ran into problems. Or didn't you encounter any problems ? |
| 12:53.28 | babilen | dpkg: tell Radon_3 -about selftell |
| 12:53.43 | sigblast | I have intalled openjdk-7-jre. Still, my browser is not able to load java contents. |
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| 12:53.55 | Akanone | ChrisH: Thank you for saving my life, 5*! |
| 12:54.23 | rozie | Radon_3: first, try open source driver |
| 12:54.24 | Radon_3 | babilen: the problem is that I can't edit that file. |
| 12:54.25 | ChrisH | Akanone: Does that mean its now working? |
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| 12:55.27 | Akanone | ChrisH aye! everything is working now |
| 12:55.33 | babilen | Radon_3: Why can't you edit that file? What happens if you try? How do you try to edit it exactly? |
| 12:56.10 | Radon_3 | No matter which password I give the sudo command (mine or root) it doen't give me the permission to edit |
| 12:56.17 | babilen | sigblast: Did you read the factoid? And please note that the Java plugin detection on Oracle's site might be broken. |
| 12:56.51 | babilen | Radon_3: Did you configure sudo for your user? Can you become root with "su -" (give your root password) ? |
| 12:57.18 | babilen | Radon_3: And could you paste your exact command and its output to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 12:58.36 | sigblast | babilen: I am not able to use java on any site. not only the testing site of oracle |
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| 13:01.25 | sigblast | babilen: I am asked to install some plugins to run those and when I accept to install those, I am asked to download http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=81812 . How to install from that tarball ? |
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| 13:03.09 | ompaul | sigblast: did you read this https://wiki.debian.org/Java |
| 13:04.06 | Radon_3 | babilen: here http://paste.debian.net/74529/ |
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| 13:05.12 | ompaul | Radon_3: do this su - and put in the root password |
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| 13:05.51 | babilen | sigblast: We don't support that, but you can look into java-package for installing Oracle's Java. Please note that OpenJDK 7 is the reference implementation of Java 7 and that you really shouldn't have to install anything but that. |
| 13:06.07 | babilen | dpkg: tell Radon_3 -about sudoers |
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| 13:07.20 | babilen | Radon_3: Looks as if you haven't configured sudo for your user yet. It shouldn't surprise you too much that it doesn't work, but its easy to fix it. Become root with the "su -" command I mentioned earlier (give your root password) and then add your user to the "sudo" group with the command in the factoid our bot just sent you. Relogin and you should be able to use sudo as you expect. |
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| 13:09.12 | babilen | dpkg: tell sigblast -about java-package |
| 13:09.24 | babilen | sigblast: It sounds like a buggy website though |
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| 13:11.11 | Radon_3 | babilen: isn't there a way to use this su - sommand to edit the file right after I give it me root password? |
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| 13:12.37 | ompaul | Radon_3: can you even execute su - cos that lets you |
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| 13:13.35 | Radon_3 | yes I can, I just don't know how to edit a root file through it |
| 13:13.48 | ompaul | Radon_3: tell me when you have done that |
| 13:14.07 | Radon_3 | you mean it is not possible? |
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| 13:14.31 | ompaul | Radon_3: no, I gave you an instruction, as did other people, do that and tell me it is done so each step can be executed correctly |
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| 13:35.57 | Radon_3 | where should I run this "update-grub" command? |
| 13:36.10 | ksk | Radon_3: in a rootshell? :D |
| 13:36.27 | ksk | open a shell, become root (eg "sudo su") and run that command |
| 13:36.43 | Radon_3 | I know man, thanks |
| 13:36.45 | Radon_3 | <3 |
| 13:37.00 | Radon_3 | done |
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| 13:38.06 | Akanone | Everytime i use iptables i get error messages "FATAL: Module ip_tables not found.", on apt-get it says its installed has latest version, any idea what this could be? |
| 13:38.15 | zathras | hi. Is it possible to run Eclipse on a headless server. If so what would be the best setup please? |
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| 13:39.05 | ompaul | Radon_3: then time to test with a reboot |
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| 13:43.54 | Akanone | Any idea? https://paste.debian.net/74542/ |
| 13:43.57 | boudiccas | how do i change the ownership of a 'fuse.drive' to uid 1000, gid 1000 please? what command do i need to issue? |
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| 13:44.28 | abailarri | Hello. Anyone has installed Redmine? I tried about 6 times and I can't run. Anyone has installed please? |
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| 13:45.33 | zathras | abailarri, yes. But try a recent one |
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| 13:45.52 | zathras | Akanone, isn't that a kernel module? |
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| 13:46.40 | abailarri | zathras, I installed on my vps, but when I tried to go on htt://:xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:3000, not appears nothing |
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| 13:47.45 | Akanone | zathras, you mean that it's broken? maybe, where do you usually edit/fix those? |
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| 13:48.47 | zathras | abailarri, yes, but like I said: try a recent one. Not a debian package. I had some issues with that one too. Also check logs. Then ask in the #redmine channel if you run into trouble. There can be many different setups with redmine. You just mention it is broken/does not work. That is insufficient |
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| 13:49.17 | abailarri | zathras, if is not a debian package, what package? |
| 13:49.31 | zathras | Akanone, check loading kernel modules |
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| 13:50.09 | zathras | abailarri, from the redmine site. Can be a bit tricky. You need to install a lot of gems |
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| 13:53.20 | bullgard4 | [Debian 7.3, Xfce 4.8, HP Officejet 5610 All-in-One prints black-white too pale.] Where can I find a color saturation control to print black letters with higher intensity (= saturation)? In file:///usr/share/doc/hplip-doc/HTML/index.html I do not find a search function for the term »color saturation control« |
| 13:53.57 | jelly-home | bullgard4: what does color saturation have to do with the black component? |
| 13:54.17 | bullgard4 | jelly-home: everything. |
| 13:54.44 | jelly-home | bullgard4: color saturation is about color vs gray |
| 13:55.00 | bullgard4 | Yes. Thats my subject. |
| 13:55.43 | jelly-home | bullgard4: prints black-white too pale # black and white images and prints have _no_ saturation at all |
| 13:55.52 | jelly-home | that's what makes them black and white. |
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| 13:56.01 | ChrisH | bullgard4: using CUPS? If yes there should be such a point somewhere[TM] in the webgui ... dunno where in detail |
| 13:56.17 | shingouz | bullgard4: the printer settings should have something to do that. check the cups settigns |
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| 13:56.33 | jelly-home | bullgard4: I think you're looking for the wrong thing, or are not explaining the goal properly |
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| 13:56.54 | shingouz | jelly-home: actually, if the saturation of the black is 0, the print will end up blank |
| 13:57.04 | Akanone | zathras im not able to insmod nor modprob |
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| 13:57.25 | jelly-home | shingouz: "color saturation" is a well defined term; it's not "black component saturation" |
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| 13:57.37 | bullgard4 | ChrisH: Yes I do use CUPS. |
| 13:58.09 | shingouz | jelly-home: i know. however, black is considered a color too when printing |
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| 13:59.22 | jelly-home | bullgard4: I'd look for something like econo mode under the printer Administration -> Set default options page and disable it |
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| 14:00.55 | boudiccas | how do i change the ownership of a 'fuse.drive' to uid 1000, gid 1000 please? what command do i need to issue? |
| 14:01.26 | Woet | boudiccas: man chown |
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| 14:01.36 | jelly-home | boudiccas: what is a 'fuse.drive' and where do you see it? |
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| 14:02.31 | boudiccas | jelly-home; its a obnam backup mounted using fuse in this case |
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| 14:03.58 | jelly-home | boudiccas: not knowing anything about obnam, I'd have to tell you to RTFM about the options for the fuse mounting tool |
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| 14:06.41 | boudiccas | jelly-home; theres no problems with mounting it, except that I always have to use sudo for it for some reason, apparently other obnam-folk don't so its just a peculiarity with my system, just wanting to know how to get uid 1000:gid 1000 but i think i've sorted it now, thanks |
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| 14:08.50 | v4nelle | guys my gpu supporting vdpau,but i cant find a way to see if is enabled....any tutorial? |
| 14:09.33 | CosmicB | v4nelle: root@jupiter:/home/joar# grep -i vdpau /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 14:09.33 | CosmicB | [ 30.806] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: nvidia |
| 14:09.54 | CosmicB | v4nelle check your Xorg.0.log |
| 14:10.09 | v4nelle | [ 2033.325] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: nvidia |
| 14:10.34 | v4nelle | but when i use vdpau on xbmc i have black screen |
| 14:10.48 | CosmicB | v4nelle so it has been loaded, I guess. I don't know anything else regarding vdpau though, sorry : |
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| 14:11.17 | Arrowmaster | vdpauu doesnt work with all videos |
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| 14:11.30 | jelly-home | boudiccas: just like for any other fuser-based fs, verify your user is a member of fuse group |
| 14:11.44 | v4nelle | my vainfo is http://pastebin.com/QW5SDY2i |
| 14:12.15 | jelly-home | boudiccas: and that the relevant control device is rw for that group, crw-rw---T 1 root fuse 10, 229 Dec 31 10:58 /dev/fuse |
| 14:12.31 | CosmicB | I've checked that my first partition is aligned, it starts at sector 2048, but how would I check if my second partition is aligned, or is it automagically aligned (?) my first partition is 1024MB though |
| 14:13.13 | jelly-home | fuse-based fs |
| 14:13.47 | Akanone | Im getting error (https://paste.debian.net/74542/) on every iptables command or mdprob/mobins iptables. When i use the command "grep -i iptables /boot/config-`uname -r`" i find nothing iptables related, could this be the issue? how can i solve this? |
| 14:14.11 | antonp | how can I use the IEEE LaTeX template in Debian? |
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| 14:16.05 | jelly-home | Akanone: which debian release is this? How did you install it? |
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| 14:17.11 | Akanone | Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux, installed under recover mode by using debootstrap on mnt |
| 14:17.52 | jelly-home | Akanone: what does "lsb_release -sc" say? |
| 14:18.26 | Akanone | jelly-home: -bash: lsb_release: command not found |
| 14:18.49 | jelly-home | Akanone: you don't have lsb-release package installed? |
| 14:19.14 | jpw | Akanone: it needs to be run as root ie: sudo lsb_release -sc |
| 14:19.27 | Akanone | Hum yea, using apt-get install lsb_release it's unable to find that package |
| 14:19.32 | jelly-home | jpw: er, it does not. |
| 14:19.55 | jelly-home | Akanone: lsb-release package name with dash - , command name with underscore _ |
| 14:20.03 | jpw | huh, you're right. I always thought it did. |
| 14:20.17 | zinx | jpw: why would it need to be run as root? |
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| 14:20.23 | Akanone | haha! installing... |
| 14:20.36 | Akanone | it says wheezy |
| 14:21.01 | jelly-home | Akanone: okay. can you pastebin the output of ls -la /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/ |
| 14:21.06 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 14:21.07 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 14:21.13 | Akanone | y sec |
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| 14:22.16 | Akanone | jelly-home: http://pastie.org/8606616 |
| 14:22.48 | boudiccas | jelly-home; atm it can only be mounted as ReadOnly, why should you be able to write to your aged backups? |
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| 14:25.26 | jelly-home | Akanone: the /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/modules.builtin file is missing for some reason |
| 14:26.02 | jelly-home | Akanone: it's part of the linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 package, you could reinstall it |
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| 14:26.17 | jelly-home | boudiccas: sorry? |
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| 14:26.58 | jelly-home | boudiccas: I didn't say anything about trying to mount stuff read-write |
| 14:27.07 | jelly-home | did I? |
| 14:27.44 | boudiccas | jelly-home; obnam is a backup system so when you mount a backup of it, it will only be Read-Only as otherwise the backup can be corrupted by you being able to add/subtract to the backup |
| 14:28.16 | boudiccas | jelly-home; you said '[14:12:15] <jelly-home> boudiccas: and that the relevant control device is rw for that group, crw-rw---T 1 root fuse 10, 229 Dec 31 10:58 /dev/fuse' |
| 14:28.43 | jelly-home | boudiccas: yes. These two things are not counterting each other. |
| 14:28.55 | boudiccas | jelly-home; i took that to you suggesting that it should be mounted read-write |
| 14:29.01 | jelly-home | nope |
| 14:29.42 | jelly-home | verify that 1. you're a member of group fuse and 2. that as a member of that group you have rw access to the fuse device |
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| 14:30.25 | boudiccas | jelly-home; but [2] will not work, as it can only be mounted RO |
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| 14:31.45 | abailarri | zathras, I tried to install again |
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| 14:32.08 | jelly-home | boudiccas: access to device enables using FUSE at all. It does not enforce mounting rw. |
| 14:32.13 | abailarri | and I recive this error when I put the command: RAILS_ENV=production REDMINE_LANG=en rake redmine:load_default_data |
| 14:32.23 | abailarri | Error: Mysql2::Error: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/#sql_6118_0.MYI' (Errcode: 13): SHOW FULL FIELDS FROM `roles` |
| 14:32.24 | abailarri | Default configuration data was not loaded. |
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| 14:32.41 | Akano | jelly-home how am i able to do this? can i aptitude reinstall linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64? |
| 14:33.04 | zathras | abailarri, are you running out of diskspace or do you have a permissions error? |
| 14:33.23 | jelly-home | boudiccas: these two are necessary requirements for fuse helpers to work when run as a normal user |
| 14:33.33 | jelly-home | Akano: yes |
| 14:33.57 | abailarri | zathras, I'm running these commands with root user on my server. |
| 14:34.34 | abailarri | should not give this error |
| 14:35.04 | zathras | If you run something as root and a process is started as say user "redmine" then chances are it cannot overwrite a file previously created by the process which ran as root |
| 14:35.42 | zathras | I am not saying that this is the case here. Just it might be the cuase |
| 14:35.45 | zathras | *cause |
| 14:35.46 | dizzylizzy | [ent], did you figure it out? |
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| 14:36.49 | abailarri | zathras, I puted this configuration in database.yml: |
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| 14:36.59 | abailarri | production: |
| 14:36.59 | abailarri | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.00 | abailarri | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:37.00 | abailarri | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:37.03 | boudiccas | jelly-home; ah, right, i see what you mean, sorry, i was misunderstanding you |
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| 14:37.31 | abailarri | sorry |
| 14:37.41 | abailarri | how you can see the user is root, not redmine |
| 14:37.45 | zathras | abailarri, better use a pastebin for things ,ike that |
| 14:37.54 | abailarri | ok |
| 14:38.34 | zathras | abailarri, no, that is the mysql user root, not the system user root. That has nothing to do with writing files to /tmp (a filingsystem) |
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| 14:39.16 | abailarri | zathras, and what I need to do? |
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| 14:39.43 | zathras | the error you provided complains about writing to /tmp so either a file is missing, not (over)writeable or you are out of diskspace |
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| 14:41.40 | abailarri | zathras, I have a lot of diskspace. But what user need perms to write in this folder? The roor user has permisions |
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| 14:45.57 | ska | I built a kernel based on 3.12 for 7.2, but when I installed it, the graphics were paging extremely slowly. Are there any graphics tweaks I need to make prior to building? |
| 14:46.13 | zathras | abailarri, but do you (or rather did!) have enough space on /tmp and who owns the file where the complaint was about? Or does it even exist? What do the logs say about this etc? Also, when you are no longer on a Debian package it would be better to ask in the #redmine or #ruby / #rails channels |
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| 14:46.58 | abailarri | ok zathras |
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| 14:47.29 | zathras | abailarri, it is not that I do not want to help, but the current information provided is not enough |
| 14:48.14 | zathras | and although I have had a rough ride in installing it and getting it to work by no means that makes me an expert |
| 14:48.44 | abailarri | I followed this gide: http://midactstech.blogspot.com.es/2013/07/how-to-setup-redmine-231-on-debian.html |
| 14:49.01 | zathras | iirc I used the debian tutorial from the redmine website and had to do som manual tweaks |
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| 14:49.45 | abailarri | only instead to create user redmine database, I have done with root. The rest I followed the steps exactly |
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| 14:50.54 | zathras | abailarri, I did something similar and got it working with passenger and vhosts/apache2 |
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| 14:51.28 | zathras | abailarri, from a security viewpoint that is not a wise thing to do |
| 14:51.29 | abailarri | zathras, in the gide says that the passenger steps are after to do this |
| 14:51.40 | abailarri | is very strange |
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| 14:52.43 | zathras | but as it is not a debian package, and as there are more knowledgable people there I really suggest to take this to the #redmine channel |
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| 14:53.32 | Akano | jelly-home this packacke wasnt even installed, thank you saved me alot of time digging |
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| 14:54.38 | jelly-home | Akano: that's weird, how did the kernel files exist at all, then |
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| 15:02.35 | koell | Where can I see a list of proprietary software, that is installed on my system? |
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| 15:07.33 | kelsoo | koell: install the package vrms |
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| 15:16.46 | ompaul | vrms is a bad bit of software |
| 15:16.52 | ompaul | !vrms |
| 15:16.53 | dpkg | The Virtual Richard M. Stallman (vrms) will list the <contrib> and <non-free> packages installed on your system and for some explain why they are non-free; its list of "reasons" is horribly unmaintained however. You could just run "aptitude search '~i?or(~scontrib,~snon-free)'" to get the same package list. |
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| 15:17.47 | ompaul | and it has "wrong reasons" in there and where freedom bugs existed and were fixed years ago ... it still lies about it (some font stuff) |
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| 15:18.44 | jubo2 | Tnx everyone for making this awesome OS |
| 15:19.01 | jubo2 | I've been using Debian for years.. the servers run like clockwork with it |
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| 15:19.41 | Akano | Where can i check the debug log of network failing to bring eth0 up? |
| 15:19.43 | jubo2 | even use it on laptops even if it is not as shiny as other distros that push the UX envelope |
| 15:19.46 | macrobat | How do I go about buying debian-compatible hardware? I'd like a motherboard with supported sound and network :D |
| 15:20.42 | zinx | macrobat: most modern stuff is supported afaik |
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| 15:20.44 | shingouz | macrobat: if it is supported by linux it is supported by debian. usually google is your friend |
| 15:21.14 | zinx | macrobat: and yeah, the general method is to google 'linux' along with the model name/number of what you're buying |
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| 15:22.07 | macrobat | the debian kernel doesn't support everything a vanilla kernel does, right? |
| 15:22.38 | zinx | debian generally compiles support for just about everything as a module |
| 15:22.41 | macrobat | (my searches have been inconclusive) |
| 15:22.44 | shingouz | macrobat: very few things are unsupported and unsupportable, some can be a little too new to have stable support, some are too old for anyone to have the inspiration to keep the support maintained in the kernel |
| 15:22.51 | zinx | but you can use make-kpkg and use a vanilla or debian patched kernel with preciesly the features you need |
| 15:23.25 | zinx | (really, you can apply whatever the heck patches you want, make-kpkg just packages it the Debian way for you) |
| 15:23.34 | savoir_faire | may a ssh connection from win7 to debian be risky for my linux OS because of viruses and other similar issues? |
| 15:24.16 | shingouz | savoir_faire: to the best of my knowledge, no |
| 15:24.30 | hfp | Hey guys! I was wondering: I set up my server to only take SSH connections using a ssh key. Now, if I lose/destroy/whatever my computer, how will I be able to connect to the server? Can I backup the ssh key somewhere and use it with a different computer, or are each ssh keys unique to a computer? And if so, how do I avoid being locked out should an emergency occur? |
| 15:25.28 | ChrisH | hfp: a ssh-key os not restricted to one system. And yes it make sense to backup the key. |
| 15:25.57 | ChrisH | Having physical access you can boot from a CD/DVD/USB and get controll over the box again |
| 15:26.32 | hfp | ChrisH: Thanks for clarifying. So I should backup both the private and public keys, right? The servers are VPSes I don't have physical access to |
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| 15:28.39 | ChrisH | hfp: then backup private and public key. I hope the private key is PW protected |
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| 15:29.17 | hfp | No it's not, I was going to lookup how to pw it after the fact |
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| 15:32.19 | PrideAndSorrow | is kernel customisation required in Debian? |
| 15:32.40 | jelly-home | PrideAndSorrow: required? no |
| 15:33.00 | rindolf | Hi all. Does the Debian 7.3.0 installer (lxde-cd-1.iso) by retrieves files from the Internet even if I tell it not to contact a mirror? Thing is the installation takes a long time on VBox. |
| 15:33.10 | rindolf | PrideAndSorrow: usually not. |
| 15:33.19 | PrideAndSorrow | sp is it opttional? |
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| 15:33.39 | jelly-home | PrideAndSorrow: you can use a custom kernel build if you want or need to |
| 15:33.47 | jelly-home | PrideAndSorrow: why? |
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| 15:34.33 | PrideAndSorrow | o,omly because i come ftom BSD system background |
| 15:35.13 | jelly-home | the kernel is a core, but separate component that can in general be easily changed |
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| 15:35.44 | jelly-home | (to a slightly different linux kernel) |
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| 15:36.16 | PrideAndSorrow | u mean modularity featute? |
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| 15:37.20 | rindolf | PrideAndSorrow: you can use a custom kernel. |
| 15:37.31 | rindolf | PrideAndSorrow: assuming it supports all the necessary hardware. |
| 15:37.44 | jelly-home | no, I mean you can get a completely different version and boot that one, given some minimum options to make your hardware and debian boot system work are enabled |
| 15:38.13 | jelly-home | worst sentence of the year |
| 15:38.18 | PrideAndSorrow | ok,got it now.thanx |
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| 15:40.19 | Walex | PrideAndSorrow: more in general, default GNU/Linux distribution binary kernel are compiled with nearly all optional components turned on. |
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| 15:41.37 | ikla | how do you disable logins from single user mode or debian default to asking for pw? |
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| 15:42.50 | ska | Are the Nvidia "NVIDIA NV92" drivers omitted from the 3.12+ kernels? |
| 15:43.01 | Walex | ikla: 'man getty' look for "auto" |
| 15:43.11 | jordanm | nv has been deprecated for a long time |
| 15:43.12 | Walex | ska: that is a complicated story. |
| 15:43.56 | Walex | ska: anyhow if you are interested in kernels > 3.2 you may find #Debian-next |
| 15:44.02 | Walex | ska: anyhow if you are interested in kernels > 3.2 you may find #Debian-next in OFTC |
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| 15:44.14 | grohl | hi all. does anyone know about fonts? in particular some fonts i have downloaded from fonts.debian.net. the problem i see is that in several fonts like "Universalis ADF Cd" or "Gillius ADF No 2 Cd" any occurance of the string 'ss' will be transformed to the literal 'ß'. this happens in iceweasel and libreoffice and i think is realted to these fonts. is there a simple way to "tweak" fonts or prevent this from happening? thanks in advance |
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| 15:44.28 | Walex | grohl: someone knows about fonts. |
| 15:44.37 | grohl | punny |
| 15:44.58 | ska | Walex: Ok.. Thanks.. Is it ok to pull down a stock 3.2 kernel, compile and instlal it? |
| 15:44.58 | Walex | grohl: also, there is no simple way to deal with fonts. |
| 15:45.12 | Walex | ska: yes, but it is usully rather pointless. |
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| 15:45.28 | koell | kelsoo: there are only 2 packages non-free (flashplugin-installer, game-data-packager). can this be true? i thought my wlan would depend on non-free packages |
| 15:45.32 | Walex | ska: unless you have rather special requirements. |
| 15:45.32 | grohl | Walex: i like your humour but you aren't very helpful in my situation |
| 15:45.48 | ska | Walex: ok.. yes, I'd like to get hfs write support. |
| 15:46.00 | Walex | grohl: it is not humour :-). |
| 15:46.15 | Walex | grohl: especially about there being no simple ways to deal with fonts. |
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| 15:46.51 | Walex | ska: I don't know about HFS write support, but perhaps it is already in the 3.11 backported kernel from the 'wheezy-backports' archive |
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| 15:47.03 | ska | err. I means UFS write.. for bsd images. |
| 15:47.40 | grohl | Walex: so, are you saying the most elegant fonts of all are by design not to be used? |
| 15:47.41 | Walex | ska: but rather than compiling the "vanilla" Linux kernel, for Debian it is recommended to use 'make-kpkg' |
| 15:48.03 | Walex | grohl: not at all, simply that it is not easy, and someone somewhere does know about fonts. |
| 15:48.31 | grohl | i was hoping someone in here might have heard of someone who knows about them |
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| 15:48.58 | Walex | grohl: note that the "ss" to "ß" thing does not look like a font issue, more like a ligature issue |
| 15:49.03 | apm1 | is the intel mesa driver included in the kernel ? |
| 15:49.20 | Walex | grohl: and most likely the ligature issue depends on the locale. |
| 15:49.24 | apm1 | or is that a separate package ? |
| 15:49.33 | Walex | apm1: that question does not quite work. |
| 15:50.12 | apm1 | Walex, i need the latest mesa driver "." how do i get it ? |
| 15:50.32 | apm1 | its debian wheezy with the latest backported kernel |
| 15:50.53 | apm1 | now do i already have it or i need to build something from upstream |
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| 15:51.08 | Walex | apm1: Mesa is a library, not a driver. probably you want a GLX DRI driver, which comes in two pieces: one in the kernel and one inside the X server. |
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| 15:51.39 | jelly-home | grohl: conversion of ss to ß when typing is not a font issue, but an input method problem I think. Are you using a german locale? |
| 15:51.58 | ElDiabolo | Hi. I have a pu (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=728906) pending where I added info a month ago. Nothing has happened since. Is there anything obvious I missed or anything I can do about this? |
| 15:52.02 | jelly-home | for all we know it might be an openoffice/libreoffice "feature" |
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| 15:52.17 | Walex | jelly-home: I suspect it is a feature triggered by the locale. |
| 15:52.22 | jelly-home | jaa |
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| 15:52.42 | Walex | most likely there is a locale with and without ligatures. |
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| 15:55.00 | Walex | apm1: one difficulty with Debian is that the "stable" versions is meant to be indeed "stable". Except for backports. But I just checked and there does not seem to be a backport of 'libgl1-mesa-glx' or 'libgl1-mesa-dri' or 'xserver-xorg-video-intel' |
| 15:55.04 | grohl | jelly-home: yes, utf-8 DE |
| 15:55.28 | grohl | jelly-home: i'm trying to switch to something else |
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| 15:55.52 | apm1 | Walex, meaning i'll have to churn out my own from upstream :/ |
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| 15:58.49 | Walex | apm1: probably the best thing is to backport from the 'unstable' archives or one of the even more fleeting ones. |
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| 15:59.22 | Walex | apm1: it may be as simple as downloading the relevant source packages and rebuilding. |
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| 16:00.26 | jelly-home | don't count on it |
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| 16:00.51 | jelly-home | X components are often closely interlinked in versions |
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| 16:01.19 | drewgle | Why isn't there an nvidia-glx-legacy-304xx package? |
| 16:01.25 | Walex | jelly-home: yes, but we are talking about rebuilding the xserver and mesa source packages, with a bit of luck... |
| 16:01.33 | apm1 | Walex, "libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental " i didn't have this one installed |
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| 16:01.49 | apm1 | Walex, do i need to reboot for this one to take effect ? |
| 16:01.53 | drewgle | There is a nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx package that mirrors the dkms legacy-173xx package and there is a legacy-304xx dkms package |
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| 16:02.03 | Walex | apm1: you need to restart X windows. |
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| 16:02.09 | jelly-home | ,checkbackport libgl1-mesa-dri --from-release sid |
| 16:02.10 | judd | (checkbackport <packagename> [--fromrelease <sid>] [--torelease <stable>] [--arch <i386>] [--verbose]) -- Check that the build-dependencies listed by a package in the release specified as "fromrelease" are satisfiable for in "torelease" for the given host architecture. By default, a backport from unstable to the current stable release and i386 are used. |
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| 16:02.16 | jelly-home | ,checkbackport libgl1-mesa-dri --fromrelease sid |
| 16:02.18 | judd | Backporting package libgl1-mesa-dri in sid→wheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libdrm-dev (>= 2.4.46) [!hurd-any], llvm-3.3-dev (>= 1:3.3-4) [amd64 i386 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 armhf], libwayland-dev (>= 1.0.2) [linux-any]. |
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| 16:02.54 | Walex | ahhhh the LLVM, yes, that probably needs to be the latest and greatest too. |
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| 16:06.27 | grohl | jelly-home: Walex: thank you both. it was in fact as simple as changing the language setting within libreoffice. |
| 16:06.56 | jelly-home | ach so |
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| 16:08.18 | giovanotti | Is there a way to install compiz in Wheezy?? Can't find it inrepos? |
| 16:08.33 | buscon | hi |
| 16:08.39 | buscon | i've just got a virtual server with some friends |
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| 16:08.59 | rindolf | giovanotti: hi. |
| 16:09.03 | buscon | and we are evaluating which graphic interface should we use to admin the server |
| 16:09.44 | buscon | I personally use the command line but the others would like to have a graphical interface to do some (easy) administration work (adding email addresses, domains) |
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| 16:09.47 | ompaul | buscon: graphic to admin the server ... you do it headless :) |
| 16:10.23 | buscon | ompaul: yes, i know… but i cannot be there every time they want to add an email address or a domain... |
| 16:10.56 | ompaul | buscon: script it |
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| 16:11.29 | buscon | well,it'd be an option but then it makes sense to have a graphical interface for the administration... |
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| 16:11.55 | buscon | we can protect it with apache authentication and they won't do any damage (hopefully), i know them |
| 16:12.13 | ompaul | buscon: no it doesn't, esp, not if you have to go across the internet |
| 16:12.48 | buscon | well, we could use https |
| 16:14.23 | ompaul | buscon: here are some for you http://wiki.debian.org/HostingControlPanels |
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| 16:15.15 | buscon | ompaul: well, i know that there are a lot, but i've never really used any… that's why i'm asking here which one should I use :) |
| 16:16.11 | ompaul | dpkg: tell buscon -about popcon |
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| 16:17.33 | buscon | ompaul: i don't really understand how popcon is related to my question... |
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| 16:19.11 | ompaul | buscon: we don't do polls in channel, it tells you what people who allowed popcon to run to gather stats about what was installed, have fun with that |
| 16:19.12 | giovanotti | Is there a way to install compiz in Wheezy?? Can't find it inrepos? |
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| 16:19.30 | buscon | ompaul: ah, ok |
| 16:19.55 | rindolf | giovanotti: I don't know - sorry. |
| 16:20.04 | rindolf | Perhaps the wiki page should be updated. |
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| 16:57.47 | anddam | I'm trying to install JDK 7 update 45 following https://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage |
| 16:58.08 | anddam | the package is the same that is used as example in the wiki page "make-jpkg jdk-7u45-linux-x64.tar.gz" |
| 16:58.39 | anddam | I'm getting lot of "dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: Can't extract name and version from library name" https://gist.github.com/anddam/8285774 <-- is this normal? |
| 16:59.50 | anddam | also I see the script copmlains about missing libraries, namely libavcodec libavformat libgtk-x11-2 libgdk-x11-2 libatk-1 libXtst libXxf86vm libGL libXtst libXi libavcodec libavformat I wonder why the wiki page didn't mention it since it seems pretty clear in instructions steps |
| 16:59.52 | rozie | it should be irrevelant if deb is build |
| 17:00.13 | anddam | rozie: deb has been built. What about the missing libraries? |
| 17:00.20 | anddam | I'll install those and rebuild, just to be sure |
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| 17:01.09 | rozie | just check if it works |
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| 17:01.23 | rozie | I don't use Oracle's Java for a long time |
| 17:01.51 | rozie | but a few years ago java-package was just a primitive bash script |
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| 17:03.48 | jelly-home | it's still a bash script |
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| 17:04.54 | anddam | also java-common package's description says "This package must be installed in the system if a Java environment is desired." but JavaPackage wiki page doesn't suggest to install it |
| 17:05.16 | anddam | should I care about that? |
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| 17:07.40 | anddam | the deb package generated from java-package is amd64, is that correct for a x86_64 kernel? |
| 17:07.43 | jelly-home | !ops mantiss privmsg link spam again |
| 17:07.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: jelly-home complains about: mantiss privmsg link spam again |
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| 17:10.28 | anddam | I'm asking as installing tomcat7 with aptitude pulls in openjdk-6 |
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| 17:12.03 | anddam | how do I tell the system that the installed deb is the default java provider? |
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| 17:12.29 | jelly-home | anddam: what does your "dpkg --print-architecture" say? |
| 17:12.42 | anddam | amd64 |
| 17:12.47 | jelly-home | then it's correct |
| 17:13.04 | anddam | ok, that's also what I remember about amd64 and x86_64 being different names for the same ISA |
| 17:13.12 | anddam | that said |
| 17:13.54 | anddam | how do I install tomcat using this oracle jdk7 package I just installed with dpkg? |
| 17:14.07 | anddam | java vm is working |
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| 17:14.39 | wols_ | what does tomcat say when you try to install it? |
| 17:14.42 | Lady_Aleena | I just installed the terminal emulator Terminator because it supposedly has horizontal scrolling where the others on my computer don't. However, I don't see how to configure it. Is the Debian 7 version that outdated? (http://software.jessies.org/terminator/) |
| 17:14.52 | anddam | tomcat7 depends on tomcat7-common that in turn depends on 'default-jre-headless | java6-runtime-headless | java6-runtime | java-6-runtime' |
| 17:15.24 | anddam | wols_: https://gist.github.com/anddam/8286060 |
| 17:15.53 | anddam | those two JRE6 seem unnecessary |
| 17:16.06 | wols_ | you have no jre6 installed |
| 17:16.15 | anddam | no, I have JDK7 |
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| 17:17.18 | anddam | does tomcat7 force me to use Java 6? |
| 17:18.13 | wols_ | the dependencies sure do. you could try to work around with equivs and manual editing if you feel lucky. no guarantee it would work |
| 17:18.17 | Lady_Aleena | Blast! I installed the wrong Terminator! |
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| 17:20.12 | jelly-home | ARE YOU SARAH CONNOR? |
| 17:20.21 | anddam | what's the correct way to uninstall a package installed with dpkg, dpkg itself or aptitude? |
| 17:20.37 | Lady_Aleena | How in the world do I install programs not on the bloody list? |
| 17:20.43 | jelly-home | anddam: aptitude is fine |
| 17:21.45 | anddam | thanks |
| 17:21.50 | anddam | I'll just install openjdk |
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| 17:22.54 | anddam | what's an appropriate way to allow an user to edit tomcat7 configuration, adding him to tomcat7 group? |
| 17:22.59 | jelly-home | anddam: oh, make-jpkg might still be making packages without some of the Provides: |
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| 17:23.21 | wed | Lady_Aleena, It depends. The program may have a shell script that is invoked by ./program name. Or it can be compiled from source code |
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| 17:24.06 | Lady_Aleena | wed, I would like to install http://software.jessies.org/terminator/ but I don't see how. |
| 17:24.08 | jelly-home | anddam: I usually repack the jdk or jre again and add Some of the missing Provides: to make certain apps happy |
| 17:24.21 | grieg | hello people. compton fails to autostart on lxde. google was not quite helpful |
| 17:24.32 | ksk | Lady_Aleena: "apt-get install terminator" |
| 17:25.06 | Lady_Aleena | ksk, there are TWO programs called Terminator, one is from GNOME and the other is the above. |
| 17:25.34 | ksk | no Lady_Aleena |
| 17:25.34 | anddam | jelly-home: thanks but I'm not sure how to add Provides while building a deb and I'm short on time with other stuff, so I'll just stick with openjdk6 |
| 17:25.34 | ksk | ,version terminator |
| 17:25.36 | judd | Package: terminator on i386 -- squeeze: 0.93-1; wheezy: 0.95-1; jessie: 0.97-2; sid: 0.97-2 |
| 17:25.36 | Lady_Aleena | ksk, it looks like the Terminator I have access to is the GNOME one. |
| 17:25.40 | ksk | Lady_Aleena: you see - there is only one package named terminator |
| 17:25.52 | Lady_Aleena | ksk, and it is the WRONG one. |
| 17:25.53 | ksk | as a package name in the debian repos is always unique |
| 17:25.59 | ksk | no its not, im using it |
| 17:25.59 | anddam | I'm more focused on how should I allow an user start/stop the tomcat service, setting the service command in sudoers? |
| 17:26.18 | ksk | do an "apt-cache show terminator" and take a look and see its the terminal emulator you want |
| 17:26.20 | Lady_Aleena | ksk, then why doesn't the Terminator I installed look like the screenshots on the website? |
| 17:26.33 | jelly-home | anddam: not sure whether openjdk6 gets any security support effectively, given that oracle had abandoned 1.6 |
| 17:26.47 | ksk | because decorations come from windowmanager not from a tool itself |
| 17:27.28 | Lady_Aleena | ksk, "Terminator - multiple GNOME terminals in one window" |
| 17:27.37 | ksk | Lady_Aleena: ah, nevermind. you are right, its another tool |
| 17:27.49 | ksk | and its not available in debian - so you will have to see yourself how to get it |
| 17:27.57 | Arrowmaster | theres a deb file on the page |
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| 17:29.42 | Lady_Aleena | Arrowmaster, just download and execute? |
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| 17:30.30 | Arrowmaster | download and install with dpkg -i or gdebi |
| 17:31.24 | Lady_Aleena | Huh? |
| 17:31.54 | Arrowmaster | download it and see if you get an installation prompt when you try to run it |
| 17:32.07 | wed | # dpkg -i org.jessies.terminator.amd64.deb |
| 17:32.26 | wed | But for me, it failed |
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| 17:32.37 | Lady_Aleena | x86? |
| 17:32.58 | Arrowmaster | depends what your system is |
| 17:33.00 | wed | My system is 64 bit. Yours may not be |
| 17:33.14 | anddam | jelly-home: what Provides: should I add to JDK7 in order to allow tomcat7 to work with it? |
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| 17:33.40 | Lady_Aleena | Arrowmaster, I double clicked it and it said my backend doesn't support installing files. |
| 17:33.59 | jelly-home | anddam: dunno, what does tomcat7 Depends look like? |
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| 17:34.28 | jelly-home | anddam: I'd probably add java6-runtime |
| 17:34.56 | wed | Lady_Aleena, You need to be root to install things, most of the time |
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| 17:35.39 | anddam | jelly-home: is adding the Provides: something I do on the already built .deb? |
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| 17:36.33 | jelly-home | anddam: yes. You can unpack it, edit the control file, and pack it back |
| 17:36.41 | Akano | I've got a virtualbox with the network configured properly, im able to access SSH on this vbox but if i used lynx to see the external IP i find that theres no internet access, what procedure is there left to do in order to have this vbox working to internet besides SSH(22)? |
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| 17:37.46 | anddam | jelly-home: thanks |
| 17:37.47 | jelly-home | anddam: something like: dpkg -x foo.deb tmpdir && dpkg -e foo.deb tmpdir/DEBIAN && vim tmpdir/DEBIAN/control && dpkg -b tmpdir . |
| 17:37.54 | anddam | what about allowing an user to start/stop a service? |
| 17:38.17 | jelly-home | anddam: (unpacking has to be done as root or inside a fakeroot shell) |
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| 17:39.11 | Lady_Aleena | Is Debian + KDE usually sluggish? |
| 17:39.34 | jelly-home | anddam: the sanest way to do that is to configure sudo to allow them to run /usr/sbin/service servicename start, stop and restart |
| 17:40.13 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: if there's kde's nepomuk indexing service running, it can make things slow |
| 17:40.28 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: do you have 4GB or more RAM? |
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| 17:40.44 | Lady_Aleena | jelly-home, I have a little less than 4GB. |
| 17:40.52 | jelly-home | probably fine there |
| 17:41.18 | Lady_Aleena | So, I downloaded the program, how do I install it. |
| 17:42.00 | PrideAndSorrow | * caveat- (hoax@2a01:4f8:191:9111:30::10) has joined #gnome |
| 17:42.01 | PrideAndSorrow | <PrideAndSorrow> the activities button gets stuck when right-clicking in the left top corner and then i have to press the 'restart shell' option.how to fix this? |
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| 17:43.59 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: what format did it come in |
| 17:44.12 | Lady_Aleena | .deb |
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| 17:45.34 | Lady_Aleena | home/me/Downloads/org.jessies.terminator.i386.deb |
| 17:45.40 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: install with dpkg, as root. If it fails due to missing dependencies, run "apt-get -f install" afterwards |
| 17:46.02 | jelly-home | this is all assuming the package really is built for debian |
| 17:46.26 | Lady_Aleena | So "sudo dpkg org.jessies.terminator.i386.deb" |
| 17:47.02 | ctmjr | dpkg -i |
| 17:47.02 | dpkg | ctmjr: I give up, what is it? |
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| 17:47.28 | Lady_Aleena | ctmjr, the -i comes before the filename? |
| 17:47.42 | wed | # dpkg -i org.jessies.terminator.amd64.deb |
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| 17:47.47 | ctmjr | yes |
| 17:48.06 | ctmjr | or better yet man dpkg |
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| 17:48.58 | adkins | ChrisH: hey, sorry, my windows-netbook, which is my current internet-router had a blue screen and i had to leave so i couldnt say bye |
| 17:49.20 | Lady_Aleena | I got an error: http://paste.debian.net/74601/ |
| 17:49.35 | adkins | ChrisH: have a good evening and thx a lot for your help |
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| 17:52.03 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Lady_Aleena about overwrite |
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| 17:52.32 | crane | does someone knows a software for recording screencast including audio? |
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| 17:52.50 | abrotman | istanbul |
| 17:52.53 | abrotman | recordmydesktop |
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| 17:53.23 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: it's a bug, the authors should have worked around it, but now you'll have to add that --force-overwrite do dpkg invocation |
| 17:53.42 | Lady_Aleena | "sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite org.jessies.terminator.i386.deb"? |
| 17:53.47 | jelly-home | yeah |
| 17:54.22 | crane | abrotman, thx :) |
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| 17:55.00 | Lady_Aleena | Next error: http://paste.debian.net/74605/ |
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| 17:56.03 | macrobat | Lady_Aleena: the error suggests what to do |
| 17:56.43 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: this is a missing dependency problem. |
| 17:56.59 | Lady_Aleena | And I don't know how to fix it. |
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| 17:57.17 | jelly-home | sure you do! |
| 17:57.23 | jelly-home | [18:45] <jelly-home> Lady_Aleena: install with dpkg, as root. If it fails due to missing dependencies, run "apt-get -f install" afterwards |
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| 17:57.42 | Lady_Aleena | jelly-home, just that? |
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| 17:57.59 | jelly-home | why would I give an incomplete suggestion |
| 17:58.01 | Lady_Aleena | Do I preface it with sudo? |
| 17:58.31 | jelly-home | do it as root, whatever way you become root is fine, including putting sudo in front yes |
| 17:59.35 | crane | ls |
| 18:00.17 | _rsc` | ls: command not found |
| 18:00.42 | Lady_Aleena | Does this mean Terminator is installed? http://paste.debian.net/74606/ |
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| 18:01.19 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: yes. |
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| 18:05.18 | Akano | Having the following iptables (http://pastie.org/8607211 ) what could be the problem with my virtualbox where i can access it from SSH but it wont ping external ip's or lynx its public ip? |
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| 18:10.00 | Lady_Aleena | Thank you jelly-home, abrotman, macrobat, wed, and ksk. |
| 18:10.56 | Lady_Aleena | gives cookies to jelly-home, abrotman, macrobat, wed, and ksk. |
| 18:11.17 | sobczyk | hi, anyone managed to put the jessie netinst images onto a multisystem pendrive? I get an "incorrect CDROM detected" error |
| 18:12.06 | sobczyk | I can workaround this by manually mounting the image to /cdrom, but it would be nice if the installer handled this |
| 18:12.07 | jelly-home | om nom |
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| 18:15.58 | MO_Handes | I get this error every time I want to start virtual machine on debian Jessie: http://aminsite.com/up/vbox.png |
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| 18:17.31 | Lady_Aleena | Okay, now I have a terminal I like, I need to find a text editor which does everything I want. |
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| 18:18.02 | witheld1 | "Does everything you want" technically that's emacs, not that I'd recomend it |
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| 18:18.47 | agentbob | hey all, i'm trying to install debian6 iso via usbkey... and i can get it to boot and choose english/american keyboard but then it craps it failing to detect a cdrom(because there is none in the machine) and installation wil not commence... anyone run into this issue and/or know how to get around it? |
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| 18:19.15 | Arrowmaster | how did you make the usbdrive |
| 18:19.55 | agentbob | Arrowmaster: dd'd the .iso image |
| 18:20.42 | agentbob | dd if=image.iso of=/dev/disk1 bs=8192 |
| 18:20.44 | agentbob | dd if=image.iso of=/dev/disk1 bs=8192 |
| 18:20.46 | agentbob | oops |
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| 18:20.49 | Lady_Aleena | I need unlimited undo/redo, tabination markers, line wrapping/unwrapping, spell checking, hidden character viewing, find/replace across multiple files, and syntax highlighting down to variable types ($scalar, @array, %hash, *glob). |
| 18:21.04 | Lady_Aleena | And probably more I haven't thought of. |
| 18:21.11 | witheld1 | Lady_Aleena: like I said, if you want features, technically, you want emacs |
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| 18:21.58 | agentbob | all the form posts on the topic i believe assume the image wasn't written properly... but if the image didn't copy correctly... would it even boot?? |
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| 18:22.02 | Lady_Aleena | witheld1, I'm going to be looking at many. I've been told Scite might be what I want. I'll see when I jump into it. |
| 18:22.24 | frostschutz | agentbob, try the hd-media http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/. the cdrom iso only supports real cdrom |
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| 18:22.33 | Arrowmaster | agentbob: its looking for the cdrom files on the usbdrive, is there a reason you are trying to install debian6 instead of debian7? the newer installer might work better |
| 18:22.43 | witheld1 | Getting into emacs is more of a commitment then something you "jump into" for a test drive... |
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| 18:23.09 | agentbob | Arrowmaster: to keep dev env consistent with existing env |
| 18:23.11 | frostschutz | whoops. that was squeeze |
| 18:23.13 | frostschutz | :D |
| 18:23.14 | witheld1 | It'll do everything you possibly want, even behave like other text editors |
| 18:23.24 | Lady_Aleena | witheld1, even Notepad++? |
| 18:23.46 | witheld1 | Lady_Aleena: you could probably configure it so |
| 18:23.49 | Lady_Aleena | (Emacs is on my short list.) |
| 18:23.57 | agentbob | frostschutz: do i just write the boot.img.gz image to the usb drive? |
| 18:24.07 | nholloway2007 | Hi guys. I have a (hopefully) quick question. I have an old laptop running Crunchbang Linux with Gnome-Shell. I have my laptop connected to an external Samsung SyncMaster B2030 monitor via VGA cable. It's using my laptop's 1024x768 resolution instead of the much larger external monitor's resolution. How can I force xorg to use the larger resolution? |
| 18:24.26 | Arrowmaster | agentbob: yes using zcat, but then you need to mount the drive and copy the cdrom iso over to it |
| 18:25.12 | mtn | nholloway2007: first off, go to the cruchbang channel ;) |
| 18:25.32 | nholloway2007 | I didn't even know there was one, haha. |
| 18:25.40 | agentbob | Arrowmaster: not sure I know how to do that... what about the .img files in http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/oldstable/amd64/usb-hdd/ |
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| 18:25.46 | mtn | nholloway2007: only debian is supported here |
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| 18:25.47 | agentbob | debian-live-6.0.8-amd64-standard.img |
| 18:25.52 | frostschutz | agentbob, if you already have a working bootloader somewhere, you could load the netboot linux/initrd.gz with it |
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| 18:26.25 | Arrowmaster | agentbob: that will be a live iso, you can install from it but it might not be the same as your other env |
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| 18:26.58 | adkins | Lady_Aleena: vim, but one must really get used to it. after a while it gets more and more comfortable |
| 18:27.05 | Akano | Having the following iptables on dedicated side, ( http://pastie.org/8607211 ) what could be the problem with my virtualbox where i can access it from SSH but it wont ping external ip's or lynx its public ip? |
| 18:27.41 | Lady_Aleena | adkins, no text only text editors for me unless it is for quickie fixes, and then nano is good enough. |
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| 18:28.11 | Lady_Aleena | adkins, vim has me running for the hills screaming. |
| 18:28.16 | Arrowmaster | Lady_Aleena: you can use gvim |
| 18:28.18 | agentbob | Arrowmaster: thanks, going to give that a try |
| 18:28.48 | Arrowmaster | but linux is severely lacking on powerful gui text editors |
| 18:28.57 | linduxed | out of curiosity, is there some package in the repos, or a combination of them that gives the following effect: i get to plug in an arbitrary amount of drives, adding new ones is as easy as adding a physical volume to LVM, and the system figures out whether it's time to use the new drive for failure protection (striping, mirroring, doesn't matter) or for space extension |
| 18:28.59 | Lady_Aleena | adkins and Arrowmaster, also, vim's website doesn't inspire confidence. |
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| 18:29.10 | adkins | Lady_Aleena: i see ;) it takes a while with vim. gvim is also good |
| 18:29.52 | linduxed | so that the result is "I'll plug in another one and things will get better in either security or space" |
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| 18:30.48 | adkins | Lady_Aleena: vim and gvim are really powerful regardless of its website |
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| 18:31.03 | Lady_Aleena | So, any other suggestions? I have (g)vim, scite, and emacs on the list. |
| 18:31.25 | nkuttler | Lady_Aleena: vim... or emacs if you really must |
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| 18:31.45 | Lady_Aleena | nkuttler, they are on my list. Any others? |
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| 18:32.16 | nkuttler | my list would be 1. vim. that's it |
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| 18:32.59 | Lady_Aleena | nkuttler, I installed vim, tried it, and gave up. |
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| 18:33.28 | nkuttler | Lady_Aleena: try nano |
| 18:33.32 | tremon | linduxed: I'm afraid no package will do that automatically, as restriping is a very expensive operation and you never want to do that automatically |
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| 18:33.47 | Lady_Aleena | nkuttler, nano is for quickie fixes to config files, nothing substantial. |
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| 18:33.56 | tremon | you're looking at scripting a udev hook manually |
| 18:34.22 | adkins | Lady_Aleena: i used to use another one in the beginning. maybe it was gedit, but not sure. i think i had also another one, dont remember. maybe i' ll remember |
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| 18:34.24 | nkuttler | Lady_Aleena: anway. you'll have to find your editor on your own. vi/vim is installed everywhere. |
| 18:34.32 | adkins | Lady_Aleena: www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/07/top-5-best-linux-text-editors/ |
| 18:34.49 | adkins | so there must be something good about vim ;) |
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| 18:35.02 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: vim pre-dates the web. There are plenty of good tutorial and cheat-sheet websites out there though. |
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| 18:35.08 | nkuttler | Lady_Aleena: if you have problems with vim run vimtutor, and maybe join #vim |
| 18:35.20 | linduxed | tremon: aaah, yes, i didn't think of the restriping cost |
| 18:35.26 | Lady_Aleena | I really want a text editor with a really good GUI and lots of features. |
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| 18:35.40 | linduxed | tremon: does it really take that much time? can't be done on a live system? |
| 18:35.45 | nkuttler | Lady_Aleena: what does GUI mean to you? |
| 18:35.48 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Plenty of linux editors have the capabilities you want, but you have to set them up yourself. |
| 18:35.59 | glenrock | Lady_Aleena: have you tried geany? |
| 18:36.15 | tremon | linduxed: restriping my 4x2TB array takes 14 hours (on a simple nas, mind you) if the machine is otherwise idle |
| 18:36.17 | adkins | Lady_Aleena: i remember now....i think it was "kate" |
| 18:36.17 | jhutchins | What's the KDE successor of the Quanta development environment? |
| 18:36.44 | Lady_Aleena | GUI = graphical user interface |
| 18:36.45 | jhutchins | adkins: kate was pretty basic in 3.5. |
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| 18:37.02 | Lady_Aleena | I have only tried Kate so far, and Kate doesn't do it for me. |
| 18:37.08 | nkuttler | Lady_Aleena: obviously, but what kind of features do you expect from it in a text editor? |
| 18:37.27 | adkins | ok then take vim ;) |
| 18:37.40 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Run Notepad++ in wine. |
| 18:37.40 | Lady_Aleena | <Lady_Aleena> I need unlimited undo/redo, tabination markers, line wrapping/unwrapping, spell checking, hidden character viewing, find/replace across multiple files, and syntax highlighting down to variable types ($scalar, @array, %hash, *glob). |
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| 18:37.57 | erickr | Just got the strangest error, I upgraded to wheezy, and with it coming apache 2.22, after that one of my websites turned entirely blank in firefox/chrome(but I get the source with curl). Does anyone have any hints? |
| 18:38.10 | nkuttler | Lady_Aleena: nothing of that requires a GUI, just saying |
| 18:38.20 | linduxed | tremon: you don't suppose this type of system i'm proposing would work if you had separate "clusters" or something which could restripe themselves separately? |
| 18:38.31 | linduxed | tremon: i guess now i'm just rambling though |
| 18:38.52 | linduxed | i get the point, i think, the restriping process kills my idea somewhat |
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| 18:39.44 | jhutchins | erickr: Check apache's logs, check it with other browsers, try "View Source" in FF. |
| 18:39.47 | Lady_Aleena | nkuttler, everyone tells me vim has a STEEP learning curve. |
| 18:40.00 | grohl | Lady_Aleena: you need to learn vim then.or use an IDE like eclipse |
| 18:40.00 | tremon | no matter how you slice it, the restriping process requires writing each allocated sector on your new disk. Smaller clusters might be better for robustness (as your entire array isn't in jeopardy at the same time), but it won't help with speed |
| 18:40.11 | nkuttler | Lady_Aleena: those are usually the best tools, long-term |
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| 18:40.23 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: It depends on how fancy you want it. For basic editing up to search-and-replace it's not hard at all. |
| 18:40.26 | nkuttler | Lady_Aleena: but really, run vimtutor |
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| 18:41.23 | grohl | Lady_Aleena: http://www.fprintf.net/vimCheatSheet.html it's a good start |
| 18:41.24 | tremon | linduxed: you can of course run lvm in linear mode which doesn't require restriping, but you won't get any redundancy either |
| 18:41.26 | jhutchins | ,versions quanta |
| 18:41.27 | judd | No package named 'quanta' was found in i386. |
| 18:41.27 | Lady_Aleena | Guys, my text editor search is not as important as helping erickr and linduxed get their problems sorted. |
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| 18:42.09 | nkuttler | Lady_Aleena: you must be new here :) |
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| 18:42.42 | nkuttler | !start an editor war |
| 18:42.42 | dpkg | vim sucks! |
| 18:43.21 | touki | Hi, .icedove/../ImapMail is taking 25 giga. Any idea how to fix it properly ? |
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| 18:43.31 | linduxed | tremon: well, it was the combination of LVM-easy addition of drives *plus* redundancy that was interesting |
| 18:43.49 | linduxed | Lady_Aleena: so i just read your description of all the stuff you need |
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| 18:45.08 | nkuttler | touki: sounds like you have a lot of mails? don't save attachments locally? |
| 18:45.14 | erickr | jhutchins: checked that, nothing in the error log, and view source gives a blank page. very strange.. |
| 18:45.21 | tremon | linduxed: just how many disks are we talking? |
| 18:45.24 | Lady_Aleena | is on the phone. |
| 18:45.29 | erickr | Lady_Aleena: thanks for the endorsment.. :) |
| 18:45.42 | nkuttler | erickr: can you share the url? |
| 18:45.59 | erickr | nkuttler: yeah, hang on, |
| 18:46.02 | linduxed | Lady_Aleena: how much do you code? how much time would you be prepared to invest in an editor? |
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| 18:46.31 | linduxed | tremon: well this is a kinda theoretical scenario, considering i don't have the hardware for this idea currently |
| 18:46.42 | linduxed | tremon: but i'd guess more than 6 drives |
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| 18:47.38 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: It just occurred to me - what you really need to manage all those scripts is a front-end script! |
| 18:47.54 | erickr | nkuttler: http://31.192.224.6/ |
| 18:47.55 | Lady_Aleena | nkuttler, I've only been using Debian + KDE for about a month, so still relatively new. |
| 18:48.11 | tremon | you're not thinking of raid'ing usb disks, are you? Because usb disks share their bandwidth. You'll be lucky if you reach floppy speeds |
| 18:48.23 | erickr | ah, |
| 18:48.27 | erickr | might be compression related, |
| 18:48.41 | erickr | curl doesnt handle compression i guess.. |
| 18:49.10 | jhutchins | erickr: The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression. |
| 18:49.37 | touki | nkuttler: I removed and will reinstall. Each time I was compacting, it was re-downloading the stuff. |
| 18:49.44 | Lady_Aleena | linduxed, before I switched from Windows to Debian, I usually wrote a little perl for my website every day. What I want is a text editor which is easy to set up and use out of the box such as getting the syntax highlighting colors changed in minutes. After that, I want to get writing. |
| 18:49.51 | Lady_Aleena | erickr, you're welcome. |
| 18:50.03 | erickr | jhutchins: just noticed firefox was a bit better on the error description, must be something missing there then.. |
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| 18:50.22 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, a front-end script? |
| 18:50.23 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: I don't think you're going to get that "out of the box". |
| 18:50.28 | _himanshu_ | Lady_Aleena: if you need text editor then have you tried Sublime Text ? |
| 18:50.42 | Lady_Aleena | _himanshu_, I will add it to the list. |
| 18:51.00 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: I think that either one of the advanced editors like vim, or a development environmnet will probably allow you to set that up, but it's going to take some work. |
| 18:51.09 | linduxed | Lady_Aleena: so, being a longtime vim user myself i'll say that it's very portable and getting your configuration going on the most diverse hardware is quite easy |
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| 18:51.29 | linduxed | Lady_Aleena: you will even be able to work with a headless server with vim with your own settings |
| 18:51.34 | Lady_Aleena | Basically I am looking for a Notepad++ replacement. |
| 18:51.37 | _himanshu_ | try it first .. you will not have to go to others. |
| 18:51.44 | linduxed | Lady_Aleena: with that said, sublime text is often considered a very nice editor |
| 18:51.53 | linduxed | Lady_Aleena: dunno if it's available for linux though |
| 18:51.56 | vectorious | hi, where can i find upgrade announcements on the web? i made a ssl apt-get upgrade and would like make sure its legit |
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| 18:52.35 | linduxed | Lady_Aleena: if you're up for a bit of a challenge at first then vim is worth it |
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| 18:52.57 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: http://otland.net/threads/how-to-stop-using-notepad-and-use-vim.170787/ |
| 18:53.08 | Lady_Aleena | So far I have SciTE, emacs, and Sublime Text. (vim is already installed.) |
| 18:53.43 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: you're not happy with sublime? |
| 18:53.57 | Lady_Aleena | I have scripts I have to get fixed, but without a comfortable text editor, I won't get anywhere fast. |
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| 18:54.01 | glenrock | Lady_Aleena: have you tried geany? seriously, it's good |
| 18:54.12 | Lady_Aleena | jelly-home, I haven't gotten to installed and trying any of the others yet. |
| 18:54.22 | Lady_Aleena | s/installed/installing/; |
| 18:54.41 | glenrock | geany does everything for me that i do with notepad++ on windows |
| 18:54.44 | vectorious | notepad isnt that bad. could someone in the know look at my question? :3 |
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| 18:54.47 | Lady_Aleena | glenrock, I will add it to the list. |
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| 18:55.06 | jhutchins | Hm. Notepad++ is GPL. Here's the sourcecode: http://download.tuxfamily.org/notepadplus/6.5.3/npp.6.5.3.src.7z |
| 18:55.11 | linduxed | glenrock: Lady_Aleena i haven't tried geany, but i've heard good things about it |
| 18:55.11 | Lady_Aleena | Oh, there is a BIG difference between Notepad and Notepad++. |
| 18:55.19 | linduxed | Lady_Aleena: yeah, definitely |
| 18:55.25 | jhutchins | Nobody talks about compiling and running it on Linux though. They all talk about learning to use VIM instaead. |
| 18:55.57 | Lady_Aleena | can't get the writer of Notepad++ to write a Linux version. :( |
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| 18:56.08 | linduxed | Lady_Aleena: i'd say that sublime is a good choice though if you want something somewhat familiar but with a lot of opportunities to learn new tricks |
| 18:56.32 | nkuttler | erickr: The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression. |
| 18:56.38 | nkuttler | erickr: in ff |
| 18:57.33 | vectorious | my point is, before i rebooted to run the uprade gnome3 complained it couldnt close 4 instances of vlc, though none were visible in my taskbar, a.k.a. vlc crashed. now im worried that some exploit was running, hence my question what with the upgrade and all |
| 18:57.51 | vectorious | did you see an upgrade for ssl on wheezy in the last days? |
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| 18:58.05 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: vim has a lot of plugins and schemas available. Not as crazy as emacs - afik there's no cofffemaker pluggin for vim. |
| 18:58.17 | |oop| | 5 |
| 18:58.42 | |oop| | + |
| 18:59.00 | |oop| | 6+ |
| 18:59.03 | jhutchins | |oop|: What are you trying to do? |
| 18:59.05 | tremon | vectorious: why don't you check packages.debian.org? |
| 18:59.24 | vectorious | tremon, i think i did |
| 18:59.38 | linduxed | jhutchins: RPN calculations |
| 18:59.38 | vectorious | i will try again |
| 18:59.45 | jhutchins | vectorious: Do you use VLC? |
| 18:59.47 | jelly-home | linduxed: 16! |
| 19:00.02 | vectorious | jhutchins: yes |
| 19:00.17 | jelly-home | linduxed: but this channel is not a hp48 emulator... |
| 19:00.32 | linduxed | jelly-home: which is why it didn't work |
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| 19:01.04 | Lady_Aleena | How easy is it to uninstall the programs I do not like after trying them out? |
| 19:01.15 | erickr | Lady_Aleena: Have you tried sublimetext? |
| 19:01.28 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: typically it's a single command |
| 19:01.30 | Lady_Aleena | erickr, Not yet, I'm still making a list. |
| 19:01.43 | Lady_Aleena | jelly-home, and that command is? |
| 19:02.14 | jelly-home | Lady_Aleena: aptitude purge packagenamehere (as root) |
| 19:02.39 | jelly-home | or aptitude remove packagename if you wish to keep the configuration for some reason |
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| 19:03.38 | vectorious | ooh, a link to deban patch-tracker, but it errors out |
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| 19:04.07 | vectorious | "There was an error processing ur request" seriously? |
| 19:04.34 | Lady_Aleena | jelly-home, noted. |
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| 19:06.27 | Lady_Aleena | Before I get started installing and testing text editors, I want to get something done in the kitchen. |
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| 19:06.45 | agentbob | ok... nothing seems to be working :| so far...: 1) writing hybrid-iso to usb key fails because it wont install without detecting cdrom 2) can't get boot.img.gz to work because I can't mount it on my mac 3) writing netinst.iso to usbkey doesn't boot... |
| 19:07.25 | agentbob | seems to be the most difficult/frustrating debian installation i've had to do in 15 years :| |
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| 19:07.29 | agentbob | grrrrrr |
| 19:07.56 | Arrowmaster | at this point i would just burn a cd |
| 19:08.19 | ompaul | Arrowmaster: cos that's the sensible thing to do? |
| 19:08.40 | agentbob | Arrowmaster: there's no cd drive in the computer |
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| 19:09.03 | ompaul | cat debian.foo.iso > /dev/usbstick |
| 19:09.26 | Arrowmaster | he tried that, its getting hung up on the looking for cd part |
| 19:09.35 | agentbob | ompaul: dd if=/Users/dan/Downloads/debian/debian-6.0.8-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/disk1 |
| 19:09.36 | ompaul | them move the stick |
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| 19:09.53 | ompaul | I guess you have more than one usb port |
| 19:10.05 | ompaul | some bios's are a bit brain dead |
| 19:10.42 | agentbob | hmmm |
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| 19:11.42 | agentbob | is there any way to get the netinst iso bootable? |
| 19:11.49 | ompaul | the way I said |
| 19:12.02 | ompaul | you have matched the chipset correctly |
| 19:12.20 | ompaul | close but woops no cigar |
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| 19:13.08 | agentbob | ompaul: i5-3470 and i'm using amd64 |
| 19:13.30 | agentbob | want to but the usbdrive running: debian-6.0.8-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 19:13.45 | ompaul | why version 6 |
| 19:13.48 | agentbob | should i cat it to the /dev/drive1 or use dd? |
| 19:13.50 | ompaul | get wheezy |
| 19:14.05 | agentbob | closer to whats in production env |
| 19:14.06 | ompaul | I use cat as root (then I'm lazy) |
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| 19:14.47 | ompaul | well proposition 1 is to ask the disk to self test, proposition 2 is try other ports, proposition 3 is to check the bios |
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| 19:15.32 | agentbob | check the bios for what? |
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| 19:15.52 | agentbob | cat'ing the iso to the dev/disk1 now... |
| 19:16.05 | agentbob | have a feeling the bios won't see it when i plug it in... |
| 19:16.06 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.38 | agentbob | with the hybrid image it boots find, i select language and keyboard then it craps it trying to look for a physical cdrom |
| 19:16.46 | agentbob | s/find/fine/ |
| 19:16.47 | ompaul | screw hybrid |
| 19:17.00 | ompaul | then you move from port to port to port |
| 19:17.01 | agentbob | haven't been able to get netinst.iso to boot |
| 19:17.02 | ompaul | that's all |
| 19:17.42 | ompaul | it is obviously not enumerating in a way that is conducive for your system |
| 19:17.48 | ompaul | move stick |
| 19:18.18 | tremon | agentbob: just to be sure, you need to be writing the iso to /dev/drive (the disk), not /dev/drive1 (the first partition on the disk) |
| 19:18.48 | jhutchins | agentbob: If it'll boot from the hybrid image, we know the hardware's working and the BIOS is selecting the drive. The remaining reason is that either the iso you used is corrupted, or the image was corrupted when you wrote it to the device. |
| 19:19.15 | jhutchins | agentbob: WHat did you use to write the image to the drive? |
| 19:20.04 | jhutchins | agentbob: Ok, I see you used dd. |
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| 19:20.40 | jhutchins | agentbob: You should be able to md5sum /dev/disk1 |
| 19:20.41 | ompaul | jhutchins: however, it is possible that the disk is being enumerated in a way that is not good, I've seen enough installs two cd disks - pick the wrong one and badabing when it does the "detect disk" gig |
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| 19:21.25 | vectorious | from the changelogs it looks like openssl wasnt updated this year and i ran the last update on jan 1st. now, theres a small chance i am confusing the name, so could someone please poin me to a list of patch release announcements? |
| 19:21.27 | agentbob | got the netinst.iso to boot... won't install without a physical cdrom either?! wtf |
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| 19:21.43 | vectorious | tremon: your hint only got me this far |
| 19:21.45 | ompaul | agentbob: have you used other USB ports? |
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| 19:21.53 | ompaul | agentbob: yes or no? |
| 19:22.08 | agentbob | going to try now |
| 19:22.11 | tremon | agentbob: does the installer detect a network interface at all? |
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| 19:22.22 | agentbob | tremon: good question |
| 19:22.35 | tremon | !tell vectorious -about dsa |
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| 19:22.49 | ompaul | tremon: iirc that is after the detection of the CD that it looks for the network |
| 19:22.57 | BenNZ | agentbob: i had the same problem , but ended up using the business card image , altho i dont think they exist anymore, so you will probably have to use a cd if you want to do a netinstall |
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| 19:23.45 | tremon | vectorious: note that non-security updates are not announced. Check the changelog link on packages.debian.org/wheezy/$pkg |
| 19:23.53 | ompaul | also know that if you don't have ivybridge support you won't be going anywhere soon |
| 19:24.18 | Lady_Aleena | ponders if there is any other housework she needs/wants to do before diving into the text editor search. |
| 19:24.34 | tremon | vectorious: there's also /var/log/dpkg.log where you can review all dpkg system changes |
| 19:24.44 | ompaul | 3.3 kernel needed |
| 19:24.50 | vectorious | tremon: thats what i was just going to ask ^^ |
| 19:25.22 | tremon | oh great. the changelog link for openssl is dead |
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| 19:25.41 | jhutchins | agentbob: Niether the hybrid nor the netinst requires a CDROM. There is a boot image that requires a CDROM, and the NETBOOT image may want that too. |
| 19:25.56 | vectorious | tremon: remove the part after the last dash |
| 19:25.59 | jhutchins | agentbob: We see this error a lot and are never really sure what's going on. |
| 19:26.29 | jhutchins | agentbob: We do not see this error when someone uses cat or dd to write the image and has verified the md5sum of both the image and the final result. |
| 19:27.05 | jiffe98 | is selinux enabled by default on install? |
| 19:27.14 | tremon | no |
| 19:27.18 | LVLAaron | not on debian |
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| 19:28.25 | Lady_Aleena | What man page do I need to look at to find out how to get a list of packages I can install? |
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| 19:29.05 | tremon | there's no good selinux policy for wheezy either, at least I've had to make a lot of modifications when I tried it (granted, that was during freeze, not after release) |
| 19:29.08 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Probably easiest to use aptitude in interactive mode. |
| 19:29.32 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Just run aptitude from the console. I don't know if you have a GUI software manager installed. |
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| 19:29.44 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: There are over 30,000 packages. |
| 19:30.40 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, so I'll have to find a way to do a search. |
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| 19:31.23 | agentbob | weird problem now: will boot from only 2 of 6 usb ports on the machine |
| 19:31.28 | agentbob | both ports complain about cdrom drive not being detected |
| 19:31.39 | agentbob | will check md5 now |
| 19:31.40 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: aptitude search <packagenamestring>; aptitude search ~d<description string> |
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| 19:31.54 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Search is also available in the interactive mode. |
| 19:32.00 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, I was willing to do some reading. ;) |
| 19:32.14 | tremon | you can still do that: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html |
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| 19:32.21 | tremon | ;) |
| 19:32.57 | tremon | though I expect the package aptitude-doc to be more recent than this page |
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| 19:33.37 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, is that a tilde before the d? |
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| 19:34.12 | jhutchins | agentbob: Where did you get the image? |
| 19:34.16 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Yes. |
| 19:34.28 | agentbob | jhutchins: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/6.0.8/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 19:34.29 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: No space between ~d and the string. |
| 19:34.35 | agentbob | debian-6.0.8-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 19:34.45 | jhutchins | agentbob: k. |
| 19:34.55 | tremon | agentbob: any reason you're using the oldstable installer? |
| 19:35.07 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, so "aptitude search ~dScite" etc? |
| 19:35.17 | agentbob | tremon: closer to production env |
| 19:35.45 | vectorious | tremon: there is only http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1e-2_changelog |
| 19:35.50 | tremon | ack. Just be aware that production will be unsupported in only a few months |
| 19:35.54 | vectorious | as i said the last update in there is from last year |
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| 19:36.38 | tremon | yes, that's because the latest openssl update comes from security.debian.org, not a regular release. But I have not yet found the url to security package changelogs |
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| 19:39.04 | agentbob | hmf... md5 doesn't match! |
| 19:39.34 | tremon | agentbob: what did you md5sum? That's to be expected if the usb disk is larger than the image |
| 19:40.01 | jhutchins | !changelog |
| 19:40.01 | dpkg | The Debian changelog for foo can be found in /usr/share/doc/foo/ if foo is installed. From a .deb, "apt-listchanges -a foo.deb" or "dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile foo.deb| tar --wildcards -xOf - '*changelog.Debian.gz'|zless". You can also "aptitude changelog foo" or go to http://changelogs.debian.net/bar if foo is built from source package bar. See also <apt-listchanges>. |
| 19:40.03 | agentbob | tremon: md5 /dev/disk1 |
| 19:40.14 | vectorious | tremon: found an announcement in debian-security-announce ml. link was in the bot message, thx |
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| 19:40.31 | agentbob | any other ideas how i can get debian installed on this pc lacking a cdrom? |
| 19:40.32 | jhutchins | tremon: Generally the md5sum works for USB drives. |
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| 19:40.53 | Lady_Aleena | Looks like I won't be trying Sublime, I can't find a package for it. |
| 19:41.08 | vectorious | they should have debs on their webby |
| 19:41.12 | _himanshu_ | Lady_Aleena: package for what ? |
| 19:41.30 | tremon | jhutchins: thx, but I know where to find them for installed packages. I'm looking for the changelog of a package from sec.d.o that's not installed on my machine |
| 19:41.32 | vectorious | but its not opensource so its not in the repos. |
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| 19:41.48 | Lady_Aleena | _himanshu_, Sublime Text was suggested as a text editor for me to try, but I don't have a package for it. |
| 19:41.51 | jhutchins | agentbob: We have two pieces of evidence here: THe image doesn't work, and the md5sum is wrong. That is not conclusive proof that the "burn" was bad, but it's pretty good evidence. You can try cat netinst.iso > /dev/usbdrive |
| 19:42.25 | jhutchins | tremon: ... and that factoid gives at least two methods. |
| 19:42.48 | agentbob | jhutchins: this'll be the 3rd time... i don't see how it'll possibly help at this point :| |
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| 19:43.04 | Arrowmaster | Lady_Aleena: http://www.sublimetext.com/3 |
| 19:43.13 | jhutchins | agentbob: Hence my suggestion that you use cat instead of dd. |
| 19:43.14 | _himanshu_ | Lady_Aleena: see if this works https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/sublime-text-2 |
| 19:43.34 | Arrowmaster | Lady_Aleena: its not free so its not in debians repos but theres no reg check on the trial version |
| 19:43.43 | agentbob | jhutchins: last time i tried cat... this time i'm dd'ing and checking md5 of that |
| 19:44.37 | agentbob | right now fedora is installed on that machine.. but i don't have the login info... possible to install debian from within fedora? |
| 19:44.38 | dizzylizzy | I just started school and would like some way to keep a central repository of my files that I can then access; version control isn't important, I just need to be able to put a file there from my laptop and pull it from my desktop, hopefully in a relatively easy way. I have a Debian 7 VPS at my disposal... what would be good? rsync? git? something else? |
| 19:44.39 | Lady_Aleena | Arrowmaster and _himanshu_, I still have 4 others to try (scite, emacs, geany, and gedit). If I don't like those, I will look at that, okay? |
| 19:44.45 | jhutchins | agentbob: We did verify the md5 of the iso, right? |
| 19:45.25 | jhutchins | dizzylizzy: rsync, or sshfs if it's available. |
| 19:45.27 | agentbob | jhutchins: yes |
| 19:45.34 | tremon | dizzylizzy: take a look at git-annex. Haven't used it myself, but many people like it |
| 19:45.56 | _himanshu_ | Lady_Aleena: your decision, but you should best at first. |
| 19:46.00 | Lady_Aleena | Is there a way to install multiple programs at once? |
| 19:46.08 | Arrowmaster | Lady_Aleena: gedit is fairly basic, scite is kinda outdated on ui design, emacs is console based just like vim so the gui isnt a full gui (same applies to gvim), i just tried geany and it looks good i might switch myself |
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| 19:46.38 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Yes, list them on the command line or select multiple programs with the menu interface. |
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| 19:46.50 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: aptitude install foo bar baz |
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| 19:46.59 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, what is the list separator? |
| 19:47.05 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Space |
| 19:47.06 | Arrowmaster | space |
| 19:47.14 | _himanshu_ | Lady_Aleena: have you visited this http://www.sublimetext.com/2 |
| 19:47.25 | Lady_Aleena | "sudo apt-get install scite emacs geany gedit"? |
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| 19:47.51 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: If you'd typed that on the command line you'd know <grin>. |
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| 19:48.03 | Lady_Aleena | _himanshu_, not yet. I'll pull it up in my browser and look at it after looking the others I can install easier. |
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| 19:50.18 | agentbob | jhutchins: both the md5 of cat and dd usb drive are the same... but do not match the iso md5 :| |
| 19:50.24 | _himanshu_ | Lady_Aleena: there you will get tar.bz2 file for linux. btw there was a .deb package on that page it seems they have removed it |
| 19:50.28 | agentbob | ready to start pulling out hair, just give the word |
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| 19:51.53 | Lady_Aleena | goes back to the kitchen while the programs are installing. |
| 19:52.42 | mtn | agentbob: you have probably said, but what is the exact command you are running to make the disk? |
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| 19:53.44 | tremon | jhutchins: not that I really care to argue, but http://paste.debian.net/74627/ isn't what I was looking for. No matter, apt-get download still works. But I was looking for the changelog without having to download the .deb |
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| 19:56.20 | dizzylizzy | jhutchins, tremon, thanks I'll look into those |
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| 19:56.28 | agentbob | mtn: sudo dd if=/Users/dan/Downloads/debian/debian-6.0.8-amd64-netinst.iso of=/dev/disk1 |
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| 19:56.49 | tremon | agentbob: and /dev/disk1 is a symlink to where? |
| 19:56.52 | mtn | agentbob: disk1, really? it should be /dev/sdb or such |
| 19:56.52 | agentbob | ok.. i've reset the fedora passwords on the box... is there anyway i can install debian from within fedora? |
| 19:57.04 | agentbob | it's a mac |
| 19:57.19 | tremon | agentbob: ls -l /dev/disk1 ? |
| 19:57.30 | agentbob | Macintosh:debian dan$ ls -l /dev/disk1 |
| 19:57.30 | agentbob | brw-r----- 1 root operator 1, 4 Jan 6 14:41 /dev/disk1 |
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| 19:59.05 | tremon | hmm, sadly don't know enough about bsd block device numbering |
| 20:00.00 | agentbob | that's numberwang! shouldn't really have anything to do with it imho |
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| 20:01.22 | Deesl | is ZFS stable enough to be used on a Debian box? |
| 20:01.27 | tremon | well, on linux you can tell if it's referring to a disk or a partition by checking its minor device number (non-multiple of 8==partition iirc, although seems 16 on my machine) |
| 20:01.30 | Deesl | file server i.e. |
| 20:01.35 | tremon | Deesl: only if you run kfreebsd |
| 20:01.50 | Geerks | failure while writing changes to /etc/passwd |
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| 20:01.55 | Geerks | how to slove this error ? |
| 20:02.01 | tremon | run as root? |
| 20:02.21 | Geerks | im root already |
| 20:02.42 | tremon | then you need to dig deeper for the real error message |
| 20:03.15 | Deesl | tremon: okay. |
| 20:03.52 | Deesl | Also, my Xen hypervisor dom0 failed booting with xen found hc with no irq . Any idea what could be wrong? |
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| 20:09.25 | yang | under which group should openvpn run on debian ? |
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| 20:10.12 | Woet | !ops |oop |
| 20:10.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, ):, helix, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, xk, abrotman, gravity, azeem, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen: woet complains about: |oop |
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| 20:14.13 | HolyGoat | I may have a somewhat tricky question. I'm planning to offer a VM for download that has Debian pre-installed, but also has the Oracle JVM installed (from a PPA repository). Is that a legal thing to do? I'd guess not, since the Oracle JVM is in a sense, non-free - but I'm not sure. Could anyone guide me in this matter? |
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| 20:15.23 | tremon | only a lawyer can give you a definitive answer. But in general, no, for the same reasons that Debian can not distribute the oracle jvm |
| 20:16.19 | bazhang | I'd worry more about using an Ubuntu PPA with debian |
| 20:16.23 | HolyGoat | tremon: I thought as much; the only thing I wasn't sure on was whether the Oracle JVM cannot be shipped by enforcing guidelines, or that it is in fact not legal to do so. |
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| 20:16.50 | acu | I want to install wheezy in a laptop with solid state drive - I run several of them with either ext4 or xfs - there are things which are probably not right runing xfs in ssd - I wonder if anyone has recommendation for the best file system for a solid state - (did not try btrfs as I understand that is thethered to kernel version and debian wheezy's is preety not ready with regard to btrfs) :) |
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| 20:16.51 | HolyGoat | bazhang: I was thinking about that, it's not the right thing to do I guess. |
| 20:17.06 | tremon | bazhang: that only creates a support nightmare for him and his users, not a legal risk fafaics |
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| 20:17.19 | bazhang | tremon, good point |
| 20:18.09 | ScottE | HolyGoat: https://java.com/en/download/faq/distribution.xml |
| 20:18.11 | HolyGoat | To clarify a little bit, this is a VM that I want to offer for download accompanying an article I'm writing. So it's not really a "production" VM in the sense that it will be maintained, probably (but yes, you never know) |
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| 20:18.35 | tremon | HolyGoat: the "right thing" from a debian perspective would be to stick to what debian provides, i.e. openjdk7. There's nothing else we can support here |
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| 20:19.35 | HolyGoat | ScottE: Thanks. That looks fairly liberal, I must say. |
| 20:19.41 | agentbob | new development: while trying to write the netinst.iso to the usbkey from the fedora box now... it craps out with (no space left on device)... the usbkey is 8gb and the netinst.iso is <170mb....?! |
| 20:20.21 | HolyGoat | tremon: I completely understand, and that's the direction I think I'll be heading. I'd have to run a number of tests when choosing that direction, but that's ok. |
| 20:21.41 | tremon | HolyGoat: fafaics, your use case ("distribute it with a publication") isn't on that list, unless you're only publishing on an intranet |
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| 20:23.05 | HolyGoat | tremon: I suppose so, although I guess one could interpret "Can I distribute Java with my software? Yes" as covering this use case. But it's too vague to take the risk. |
| 20:23.58 | tremon | that article specifically refers to the java binary code license, and I'm not going to read it to find out if that license covers other data than Java binary code |
| 20:24.15 | HolyGoat | tremon: good point |
| 20:24.52 | tremon | notes that administrators do not seem to be allowed to install the jdk on all computers of a java development shop |
| 20:24.54 | HolyGoat | I think I'll shy away from using it altogether and take the slightly harder route instead. |
| 20:24.57 | Lady_Aleena | Sorry emacs, you are now dead to me. You won't unwrap my lines and you make it too difficult to set you up. |
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| 20:25.48 | HolyGoat | tremon: Heh. I guess it'd only be funny to see what happens if they sue the companies that do. |
| 20:26.22 | Lady_Aleena | Sorry gedit, you won't let me change the syntax colors and your icons are too big. |
| 20:26.43 | _himanshu_ | Lady_Aleena: ST2 ? |
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| 20:27.16 | Lady_Aleena | _himanshu_, I read the page and it gives me the impression it is nagware. |
| 20:27.43 | Lady_Aleena | _himanshu_, you don't by an chance have anything to do with it. You seem to be pushing it rather hard. |
| 20:28.17 | _himanshu_ | Lady_Aleena: :) leave it. :) |
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| 20:28.29 | tremon | Lady_Aleena: notepad++ runs fine on wine according to http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=2983 |
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| 20:31.13 | Lady_Aleena | Sorry geany, you are not easily configurable. |
| 20:31.36 | Lady_Aleena | tremon, I might have to do that, since the Linux text editors are really failing me. |
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| 20:32.30 | tremon | from yesterday, I'd assume it's not only the text editors that are failing you, it's also the shell and its non-microsoft conventions |
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| 20:33.08 | tremon | which is fine, just makes me wonder what requirement makes you running linux at all |
| 20:33.22 | acu | what is the kernel on testing ? |
| 20:33.26 | tremon | ,kernels |
| 20:33.28 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.13-rc6-686-pae (3.13~rc6-1~exp1); sid: 3.12-1-686-pae (3.12.6-2); jessie: 3.12-1-686-pae (3.12.6-2); wheezy-backports: 3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.11.10-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.51-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.51-1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze4) |
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| 20:35.14 | Lady_Aleena | Now how do I uninstall emacs, gedit, and geany? |
| 20:35.25 | bazhang | package manager |
| 20:37.01 | ChibaPet | aptitude purge emacs gedit geany nano |
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| 20:37.59 | Lady_Aleena | ChibaPet, I won't get rid of nano. It is good for those quickie edits to config files. |
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| 20:38.14 | ChibaPet | Lady_Aleena: It should be the first one up against the wall, but as you wish. |
| 20:38.50 | Lady_Aleena | ChibaPet, it is a good little program for the little things. |
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| 20:40.03 | HolyGoat | tremon, bazhang, ScottE: thanks for your input, I'll try the OpenJDK route instead |
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| 20:40.55 | bazhang | np |
| 20:41.03 | porton | I want to write a non-GUI C program for Linux. What's is the best IDE? I know Anjuta, not sure about other to do all that GNU config files |
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| 20:41.09 | aMoniker | How can I search for packages using apt-get? |
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| 20:41.36 | porton | aMoniker: apt-cache search STRING |
| 20:41.59 | aMoniker | porton: E: Invalid operation search |
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| 20:42.11 | aMoniker | porton: oh wait, I misread apt-cache |
| 20:42.20 | aMoniker | porton: cool, thanks |
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| 20:43.46 | agentbob | anyone have any other ideas for fooling the debian installer into thinking there's a cdrom drive installed? |
| 20:43.54 | ChibaPet | porton: Whatever you're comfortable with will work. There are lots of choices out there. A very common choice is to not use an IDE at all. It's entirely whatever makes you comfortable. |
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| 20:45.07 | tremon | porton: most IDEs have a specific goal, e.g. kdevelop focuses on building qt applications. There's not really a full-featured IDE for writing plain C code that I'm aware of |
| 20:45.08 | mtn | agentbob: yep, find a linux pc to burn it with |
| 20:45.26 | tremon | Of course, there's emacs, plugins for vim or eclipse, but none of those are primarily intended as an IDE for C |
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| 20:45.38 | mtn | agentbob: or a non-mac anyway |
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| 20:46.00 | porton | tremon: What about Anjuta? At least I know it can create GNU config files. What's about others? |
| 20:46.41 | tremon | I don't know anjuta. Did I mention that I'm not a developer and are not a fan of ide's, even when I do develop? :) |
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| 20:47.06 | agentbob | mtn: sorry, burn what? |
| 20:47.18 | tremon | burn the mac, I presume |
| 20:47.28 | agentbob | mtn: i dd'd the netinst.iso from a fedora box, and it's still having the same issue |
| 20:47.36 | mtn | agentbob: aren't you having issues making a good usb stick to install with? |
| 20:47.56 | mtn | agentbob: use a non-mac box and see how it goes |
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| 20:48.02 | porton | agentbob: mount image.iso ... -o loop |
| 20:48.03 | tremon | no, even with a booting netinstall usb stick, the installer is asking for a cdrom |
| 20:48.09 | agentbob | mtn: seems that way, installer keeps wanting to see a cd-rom driver |
| 20:48.51 | tremon | the only thing I can think of is that the installer doesn't detect a network device and falls back to cdrom code, but $someone already mentioned that the installer should work the other way around |
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| 20:50.58 | mtn | agentbob: the think is that I have made lots of usb installs using the netinstall without that error, but never on a mac. |
| 20:51.03 | mtn | think/thing |
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| 20:51.36 | agentbob | mtn: have all your usb installed taken place on a computer that had a physical cd-rom drive? |
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| 20:51.59 | mtn | agentbob: yes |
| 20:52.01 | agentbob | the image was created on a mac, the computer being installed is an i5 greybox pc |
| 20:52.18 | agentbob | problem is, the greybox doesn't have a physical cd-rom drive attached to it |
| 20:52.37 | agentbob | and debian wants to load drivers for a cdrom and fails once it can't find it |
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| 20:52.46 | tremon | my last installs have all been on cdrom-less machines. I have only one disc drive left at home, and it's usb |
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| 20:53.10 | mtn | tremon: the only time I have seen that error of your is when the usb was not made correctly |
| 20:53.21 | tremon | it's not my error though |
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| 20:53.33 | mtn | tremon: sorry, meant if for agentbob |
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| 20:53.57 | porton | tremon: mount image.iso /cdrom -o loop |
| 20:54.16 | agentbob | http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=195026 saying i should format with gparted first before dd |
| 20:54.24 | agentbob | ... will give that a try |
| 20:54.34 | mtn | agentbob: I never format my usbs before burning |
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| 20:54.45 | tremon | can't hurt either |
| 20:54.55 | mtn | no, just sayin |
| 20:55.20 | afidegnum | hi, using SSH, how do I see the total disk space and the used space in my system? |
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| 20:55.30 | porton | afidegnum: df |
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| 20:55.41 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 20:56.12 | tremon | must say I'm very happy with my pxe installer setup here, but the downside is that I can't help others with their installer issues :) |
| 20:57.12 | afidegnum | porton: I want to see the size in GB |
| 20:57.32 | porton | afidegnum: `df -h` probably |
| 20:57.55 | afidegnum | yes, I just got it, thanks :) |
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| 21:15.39 | jhutchins | agentbob: When you write an image to a device, that image contains a pre-formatted filesystem. If you were copying a series of files, then you would need a formatted filesystem on the target. |
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| 21:16.11 | jhutchins | agentbob: boot images include the MBR and partition table as well as the filesystem. This is why you write them to the device rather than to a partition. |
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| 21:17.13 | jhutchins | agentbob: The CD ROM thing is a red herring. It isn't what the actual problem is, it's not part of the process of an install. It just happens to be the error that that particular failure reports for some reason. |
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| 21:18.02 | jhutchins | agentbob: I think it happens as the isolinux system on the image tries to hand off control to the installer, and the installer gets confused about where things are. |
| 21:18.34 | jhutchins | agentbob: iirc you have not been able to boot the target system with a live CD? |
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| 21:19.48 | jhutchins | agentbob: A somewhat heretical suggestion: try unetbootin. |
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| 21:21.55 | jhutchins | agentbob: Dang - two different references say exactly the same thing! You have to convert the .iso to a .dmg file before you write it with OSX! |
| 21:22.09 | jhutchins | agentbob: Convert the .iso file to .img using the convert option of hdiutil (e.g., hdiutil convert -format UDRW -o ~/path/to/target.img ~/path/to/netinstall.iso) |
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| 21:23.15 | tremon | ooh ugly. osx is reinterpreting the data streams going to raw disks? |
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| 21:23.54 | jhutchins | tremon: Two seperate articles, one for ubuntu, one for mint, say exactly the same thing. That might explain the problem. I was trying to be nice and not blame OSX, but... |
| 21:24.14 | jhutchins | That needs to go in the factoids and install guide. |
| 21:24.54 | jhutchins | (Pending verification of course.) |
| 21:25.00 | tremon | naturally |
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| 21:34.28 | agentbob | jhutchins: i'm trying gparted and dd on a linux box currently... if that fails i'll try the osx hdituil method above.. thanks |
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| 21:37.11 | agentbob | no luck wit gparted... |
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| 21:42.30 | Okee | Can someone walk me through the steps to install a universal printer driver using CUPS? The driver on Samsung's website doesn't work. |
| 21:42.30 | agentbob | here goes nothing.... |
| 21:44.04 | agentbob | aaaaaand no luck. |
| 21:44.21 | agentbob | jhutchins: any other suggestions? :| |
| 21:45.26 | Okee | ok. I accessed the cups interface, and attempted to add a printer. I was prompted for a username and password, so I indicated my username and password, and received a "Forbidden" error. |
| 21:45.40 | Okee | I selected the "Find New Printers", and it says no printers found. |
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| 21:48.18 | _riz_ | anyone around who understands (well) the syntax in /etc/network/interfaces ? I'm finding myself reading source and not understanding how certain variables get set |
| 21:49.05 | _riz_ | actually, I think I just figured it out. :) thanks! ;) |
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| 21:49.48 | mtn | now that is good tech support! well done everyone! |
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| 21:50.55 | CarlFK | http://packages.debian.org/sid/nginx-full "OPTIONAL HTTP MODULES ... Stub Status" that means it is compiled in, but not enabled in a config file, right ? |
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| 21:51.45 | jhutchins | agentbob: Please see my post on why editing partitoons and formatting is pointless. |
| 21:52.10 | n-st | hi, this isn't strictly a debian-problem, but i really have no idea where else i could ask... i can't ping one particular ip (151.236.14.1, edis.at's test server in the netherlands) from one of my vps. any other ip works fine, as does the same ip on a different vps (hosted by the same provider). strangely, the traceroutes from both server to this ip differ greatly. |
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| 21:52.24 | jhutchins | agentbob: The pages both said to continue with dd after converting. They used sudo. |
| 21:52.31 | agentbob | jhutchins: in theory i agree, but there's a couple forum posts where it seems to have helped people |
| 21:52.55 | n-st | is this some kind of mis-configuration (on my host or somebody else's)? or is some hop intentionally blocking my ip? |
| 21:53.04 | agentbob | jhutchins: yes, sudo required for dd... still same cd-rom issue |
| 21:53.19 | agentbob | trying unetbootin for osx now |
| 21:53.22 | jhutchins | agentbob: Sometimes USB drives have special handling programs that come between them and windows. Formatting would wipe those out and just present a raw device. |
| 21:54.13 | n-st | traceroute from the non-working server: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/8e7b4d34/ and from the working server: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/a336d0c4/ |
| 21:54.59 | tremon | n-st: in an ideal world, the ip where the traceroute stops would be where you need to ask (or the one before). Sadly not even all backbone routers send icmp replies |
| 21:55.18 | tremon | n-st: you can ask in #networking btw |
| 21:55.38 | n-st | tremon: i will, thanks for the hint |
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| 21:57.26 | tremon | n-st: looks like an issue with kaia's routing on the amsix, but that's just my untrained eye talking. I wouldn't be surprised if your next trace succeeded from the one currently failing, and vice versa |
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| 21:58.46 | n-st | tremon: nope, it still doesn't work and the traceroutes look quite similar |
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| 22:00.09 | n-st | also, am i reading the traceroute correctly? it looks like ping replies for hops 4 and 6 came from a different ip than the one pinged?! |
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| 22:01.22 | agentbob | aaaaaahhhh unetbootin no luck either... won't even boot. >:| |
| 22:01.41 | tremon | well at least that one is consistent with the normal world |
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| 22:02.56 | tremon | n-st: they're not ping replies, they're icmp ttl exceeded replies. Not that it matters in practice, but traceroute isn't pinging each router along the way (there isn't even a predefined "one" way) |
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| 22:04.03 | agentbob | goes outside to punch babies ....IN THE FACE |
| 22:04.04 | tremon | it's pinging the destination with an increasing ttl value starting at 1, which means with each packet it sends the packet reaches one step closer to its destination before running "out of time" |
| 22:04.39 | agentbob | also try mtr/my/mattstraceroute |
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| 22:05.57 | n-st | tremon: i've also run a traceroute from my universities network: it's routed around the german highspeed educational network for a bit, then continues from de-cix.ae0-2.cr1.fra1.de.ipv4.kaiaglobal.com (80.81.192.213) via the _exact same_ hops as the traceroute from the "broken" server |
| 22:06.04 | misterli | Hello, is there a simple, smart mailserver which support antispam (spamassassin) and virtual domains without mysql/postgressql auth? |
| 22:06.07 | n-st | yet the ping from the university network works... |
| 22:08.14 | Virindi | anyone aware of an existing problem with cups in jessie? I just apted cups and the daemon won't start, no printers installed, it just hangs forever... |
| 22:08.20 | n-st | tremon: also, what kind of sick stuff are they pulling off by looping packets on nforce.cr1.ams2.nl.ipv4.kaiaglobal.com (95.141.21.22)? it appears twice in a row in each of the traceroutes... |
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| 22:09.06 | n-st | Virindi: anything interesting in /var/log/cups? |
| 22:09.07 | tremon | yeah, noticed that too. That was my main reason for shouting that something was broken there. Like I said, untrained and unchallenged goes a long way ;) |
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| 22:09.20 | n-st | tremon: :D |
| 22:09.38 | Virindi | n-st: all the logfiles there are empty. |
| 22:10.37 | n-st | tremon: now what? i kinda liked the idea of renting a vps in the netherlands, but it won't be very useful if i can't even ping it from my existing main server... |
| 22:11.03 | Virindi | the init script hangs, apt couldn't even complete installation until I went and stopped the init start |
| 22:11.58 | n-st | Virindi: that's odd. guess you'll have to find someone more knowledgeable... :/ |
| 22:12.06 | n-st | (than me) |
| 22:12.18 | tremon | n-st: I'd get your vps provider involved, still looks like a broken route somewhere. I've had the same once, but that was almost 10 years ago on ipv6. |
| 22:12.52 | jhutchins | Virindi: Log files should not be empty, if they are unwritable that might be the problem . |
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| 22:13.23 | Virindi | well I haven't changed anything, this is basically a fresh system |
| 22:13.31 | jjanvier | hey there |
| 22:13.32 | n-st | tremon: i've had something similar with a very cheap and very crappy provider in the us. they somehow managed to route stuff in a loop or something... |
| 22:13.41 | jjanvier | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.45 | jjanvier | sby had this pb ? |
| 22:14.23 | Virindi | it may not even be getting to the point of starting the actual daemon |
| 22:14.35 | jhutchins | Virindi: True, but it's testing, so it might not do things right, that's the whole point. |
| 22:14.44 | Virindi | yeah I understand |
| 22:14.50 | jhutchins | Virindi: You can try #debian-next on oftc.net. |
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| 22:15.16 | n-st | tremon: to be honest i have no clue: is this a screwup on behalf of the guys hosting my source vps, the target provider or someone in between? put simply, who should i shout at? |
| 22:16.29 | tremon | well, you're only a customer of the vps, so you should be shouting there. But you may want to wait for someone in #networking to confirm that or even help you further |
| 22:16.40 | jhutchins | n-st: pick either another ip at the destination site or the first hop this side of it and try tthat. |
| 22:17.03 | n-st | ... |
| 22:17.11 | n-st | the pings work in the opposite direction |
| 22:17.25 | n-st | how is that even possible? |
| 22:17.42 | tremon | default firewall policy = drop? |
| 22:17.56 | jhutchins | n-st: because what you're seeing isn't an actual failure of network connectivity, it's a specific failure, a faiure of ping. |
| 22:18.06 | jhutchins | n-st: Can you nmap the remote? |
| 22:18.28 | agentbob | ok... giving up on debian6... progress with debian7 installer.. now it's saying i need to get rtl_nic/rtl8168f-1.fw -- anyone know how I can download that? and where on the usbkey i need to put it..? |
| 22:18.29 | jhutchins | n-st: I was thinking that you should figure out what the gateway for the remote is and try pinging thtat from the problem child. |
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| 22:18.44 | jhutchins | !firmware |
| 22:18.45 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 22:18.51 | n-st | jhutchins: just did, works. |
| 22:19.16 | n-st | here's the traceroute from the dutch server to my main vps: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/8faf0905/ |
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| 22:19.27 | n-st | no problems whatsoever. |
| 22:19.29 | jhutchins | n-st: So it looks like a firewall or something similar at the remote site is blocking your specific server. |
| 22:20.09 | n-st | pinging hop 2 of that works, hop 1 still doesn't |
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| 22:23.05 | agentbob | hah... worked without it |
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| 22:23.19 | agentbob | grrrrrrrrrrrr fscking squeeeeeeze |
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| 22:23.49 | FriendlySeal | helo gaize |
| 22:24.02 | FriendlySeal | how i disable those gey alerts |
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| 22:24.23 | FriendlySeal | they comin from the bottom of desktop wen i mount a disk |
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| 22:34.04 | n-st | FriendlySeal: please put a little more effort into your spelling |
| 22:34.06 | n-st | and http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/manage-notification-settings-in-kde-4x/2959/ |
| 22:34.49 | n-st | (or did i miss some other DE whose notification pop up at the bottom of the screen?) |
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| 22:55.14 | FriendlySeal | n-st, u think i dont have google? |
| 22:55.49 | jhutchins | n-st: Looks like a troll to me, do not feed. |
| 22:55.50 | n-st | FriendlySeal: having access to != using |
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| 22:59.44 | n-st | tremon, jhutchins: thanks for your help with the routing problem, i guess i'll write a few emails tomorrow and see what comes of it. :) |
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| 23:00.33 | ExeciN_ | Debian boots and lightdm loads. I then try to login but moments later lightdm seems to crash and load again. The only way to escape the loop is to login with root. What's wrong, how can I fix it? |
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| 23:03.34 | ScottE | ExeciN_: anything interesting in your .xsession-errors? |
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| 23:04.34 | acu | hello guys - is jessie "stable" enough for a desktop /laptop installation ? I want to use btrfs and it seem that kernel 3.12 is OK |
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| 23:07.53 | hassen | hello's |
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| 23:08.48 | nevyn | acu: it depends on requirements. |
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| 23:09.22 | ExeciN_ | ScottE: http://pastebin.com/B2bQu50z I see nothing abnormal |
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| 23:11.11 | ScottE | ExeciN_: "X server already running on display :0" seems pretty damning to me |
| 23:12.51 | Penix | ExeciN_: check your process list before logging in |
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| 23:14.23 | ExeciN_ | Penix: I cannot ctrl+alt+F1 because it gives me a black screen (I think it has to do with the graphic driver I use so I suppose that black screen = not the proper driver is used) |
| 23:16.05 | ExeciN_ | the same black screen happens from F1 to F6, F7 gets me back to GUI |
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| 23:17.38 | phix | ExeciN_: either that or the terminal isn't enabled on that screen |
| 23:18.25 | ExeciN_ | should I ssh as root and check the process list that way? |
| 23:24.28 | ExeciN | I am using htop to monitor my process list. What should I look for? |
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| 23:25.23 | alusion | memory and cpu hogging |
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| 23:27.00 | hassen | is unmount equivalent to a logical ejection of the flash disk rather than a real pulling off of it from the PC?same case for mount? |
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| 23:27.09 | ExeciN | Everything seems normal |
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| 23:29.52 | ExeciN | *I am both ExeciN and ExeciN_ |
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| 23:35.42 | ExeciN | Well since I don't know how to fix lightdm what display manager would you suggest and how to activate it? |
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| 23:41.35 | jhutchins | ExeciN: What's in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
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| 23:41.54 | jhutchins | ExeciN: 98% chance it's not the dm, it's the x drivers. |
| 23:42.23 | jhutchins | ExeciN: Oh, I see, you logged in to the GUI as root, that'll do it. |
| 23:42.47 | jhutchins | ExeciN: Need to check ownership & permissions of your home and contents. |
| 23:43.01 | abrotman | ExeciN: have you tried slim ? |
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| 23:44.16 | ExeciN | jhutchins: oh what I did between the working and non working state was to copy some files using another computer to my home directory |
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| 23:44.53 | ExeciN | abrotman: no, how do I use slim as my dm? |
| 23:45.32 | phix | ExeciN: there is probably an update-alternatives command to do it |
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| 23:46.58 | abrotman | ExeciN: install it |
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| 23:50.55 | ExeciN | jhutchins: I took care of a folder in my home that I didn't own and I can now login without lightdm crashing! |
| 23:51.32 | ExeciN | Thanks for the inputs |
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| 23:53.42 | penk | hi folks, i have a system with md0 and md1. md0 is /boot, md1 is / - problem is, md0 consisted of sda(something) and sdb(something). the sda drive has died. but there's no mbr on dev/sdb1 - how do i make sure an mbr gets written to the second disk in an md set? i'm getting 'operating system not found' now :( |
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| 23:57.29 | phix | penk: a few ways to do that |
| 23:57.37 | penk | phix: i'm all ears! |
| 23:57.39 | frostschutz | penk, basically it's grub-install /dev/sda; grub-install /dev/sdb |
| 23:57.46 | penk | well, /dev/sda is gone |
| 23:57.47 | frostschutz | penk, nothing to do with sdb1 |
| 23:57.51 | phix | sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub I think does it and sudo grub-install /dev/sdb will do it |
| 23:58.09 | penk | okay let me try it again. |
| 23:58.11 | frostschutz | in the configure you select both sda and sdb so it will install to both |
| 23:58.27 | penk | what should be mounted fs wise to maek this work |
| 23:58.38 | penk | i booted the rescue cd so i see / and /boot mounted |
| 23:58.46 | frostschutz | penk, that's with grub 2 anyhow. grub-legacy might need a few extra steps |
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| 23:59.01 | phix | penk: oh you are booted off the debian cd in rescue mode? |
| 23:59.05 | penk | yeppers |
| 23:59.11 | phix | are you inside a chroot? |
| 23:59.12 | penk | and started a shell. |
| 23:59.16 | phix | ok good |
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| 23:59.38 | phix | then that should work, you may need to mount /proc or /sys if you are using LVM |
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| 23:59.46 | penk | hmm |
| 23:59.52 | phix | give it a go :) |
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