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| 00:00.39 | Eduard_Munteanu | INCONTROL: how is your disk partitioned? |
| 00:00.58 | INCONTROL | should be one partition |
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| 00:01.19 | Eduard_Munteanu | INCONTROL: and is this GRUB 1/legacy or GRUB2? |
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| 00:02.01 | INCONTROL | i have no ideea, it's the one i installed with debian 7.2 at that time |
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| 00:02.25 | Eduard_Munteanu | INCONTROL: I'd suggest booting off a USB stick, CD or some other live media / other install, to check for hardware faults. |
| 00:02.41 | jimmybrite | I found the solution to my problem on my own. |
| 00:03.15 | abrotman | that was quick |
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| 00:04.51 | INCONTROL | Really wish i could, anything i boot from the stick ends in a reboot. I've checked the stick on 2 other computers and it boots fine.And secondly, i don't have a cd/dvd drive in the machine. |
| 00:05.14 | Eduard_Munteanu | INCONTROL: did it ever boot off USB? |
| 00:05.42 | INCONTROL | that's how i installed it last time |
| 00:05.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | I suspect it's broken hardware. Try memtest86. |
| 00:06.45 | Eduard_Munteanu | If it's been off for a while and it's that old, it could be bad caps. |
| 00:07.07 | jimmybrite | yes it was |
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| 00:07.39 | INCONTROL | what do you mean by bad caps? |
| 00:07.41 | Eduard_Munteanu | Do you know what bad capacitors look like? You could inspect the mobo visually (although it could also be the power supply). |
| 00:08.19 | INCONTROL | i thought you meant something else |
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| 00:08.50 | INCONTROL | well, now i am at that boot screen with debiand and debian recovery mode |
| 00:08.50 | Eduard_Munteanu | INCONTROL: http://www.badcaps.net/pages.php?vid=5 |
| 00:09.15 | Eduard_Munteanu | See the pics on the right. |
| 00:10.41 | INCONTROL | ok i got that, they're fine, changed them last time i installed the system, they where bad and after that i used the computer for a while until i let it sit for that long |
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| 00:11.23 | INCONTROL | should anything like editing the commands before booting or entering that command line help me? |
| 00:12.01 | INCONTROL | linux 3.2.0.4 - 4 - 686 pae |
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| 00:12.40 | INCONTROL | if it's of any use |
| 00:12.55 | Eduard_Munteanu | If it can't boot other media, chances are it's a hw issue. Don't forget the power supply, assuming you did check the caps now (they can go bad even if you replaced them and even if the soldering joints are good). |
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| 00:13.34 | INCONTROL | gnu grub version 1.99-27+deb7u2 |
| 00:13.45 | Eduard_Munteanu | BTW, be careful with the supply, it is dangerous even if unplugged. |
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| 00:15.33 | INCONTROL | for example, i got 0x3f9c3df0 now |
| 00:15.55 | jimcooncat | Eduard_Munteanu: thanks for the badcaps.net link, I'm having a bear of a problem myself |
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| 00:18.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | TBH, INCONTROL is better off getting an RPi or something, if his box is broken. :) |
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| 00:18.32 | jimcooncat | random freezes under heavy activity, I already changed the power supply for no improvement |
| 00:18.44 | INCONTROL | Eduard_Munteanu : Thanks for guiding me, helping me so far, hope i really have wwhat to fix tonight or someone would better be around when i throw it out the window |
| 00:18.50 | roboman2444 | anyone else get a PM from jonb asking them to join #jonb? |
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| 00:20.00 | Eduard_Munteanu | jimcooncat: are those freezes easy to reproduce? |
| 00:22.04 | jimcooncat | Eduard_Munteanu: Yes, I play supertuxkart for a while. It still happens when I don't run graphic-intensive programs though, but not so quickly. I'm keeping tabs on sensors (have only cpu and hd temps available) but they're not running hot. System just blanks out, no response, sometimes power button stays lit. |
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| 00:22.56 | INCONTROL | good night to all |
| 00:22.59 | Eduard_Munteanu | jimcooncat: how about the GPU? My radeon still gets very hot if dusty and running the open drivers (power management isn't exactly great there). |
| 00:23.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | INCONTROL: g'night |
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| 00:24.23 | jimcooncat | Eduard_Munteanu: It could well be. It's an intel gpu in a Lenovo desktop. I don't get a temp reading from it. I took the heat sync off, saw no grease. |
| 00:24.29 | Eduard_Munteanu | Interestingly mine freezes and blanks out at about 75-80C but on fglrx it goes up to 95C without a problem, dunno why. |
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| 00:25.26 | Eduard_Munteanu | (also it squeaks a bit just before doing that) |
| 00:26.07 | jimcooncat | It'll crap out just from web browsing, though. But anyway, thanks for the help, I did not expect support here for my mint setup. |
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| 00:26.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | jimcooncat: it could still be the GPU, mine could barely boot when it was very dusty. |
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| 00:27.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | Some of those things tend to accumulate a thick fabric of dust under the fans. |
| 00:29.10 | jimcooncat | I bought this box off ebay very cheap. Outside was scratched, HD was bad, inside looked pristine, not a speck, like it was never used. |
| 00:29.59 | jimcooncat | Seller did right sending me a new HD, but now I think I have a mobo replacement to do. |
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| 00:30.43 | free_lasagna | what is a good ntp server? |
| 00:31.02 | dvs | none |
| 00:31.09 | jimcooncat | Only rotten thing is that this is my wife's Christmas gift, cheaper than upgrading her RAM. Well, not cheaper now though. |
| 00:31.09 | Eduard_Munteanu | jimcooncat: did they tell you whether it's been used? Some sell new but repackaged goods at some discount. |
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| 00:31.50 | jimcooncat | Eduard_Munteanu: They said it came out of an office, and I believe that. |
| 00:32.26 | Eduard_Munteanu | free_lasagna: do you mind Debian's defaults? |
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| 00:33.47 | jimcooncat | free_lasagna: see http://www.pool.ntp.org/en/ |
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| 00:43.20 | olf-folks | is there a relese of debian that has the 1.13 kernel? |
| 00:43.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | olf-folks: er, what? 1.13? |
| 00:43.59 | olf-folks | er dose anybody here have a link to kernel versions that are in debian |
| 00:44.06 | Eduard_Munteanu | 3.11 perhaps? |
| 00:44.08 | abrotman | olf-folks: archive.debian.org .. good luck |
| 00:44.10 | olf-folks | yeah that one |
| 00:44.13 | abrotman | oh |
| 00:44.15 | abrotman | make up your mind |
| 00:44.24 | olf-folks | 3.13 |
| 00:44.24 | abrotman | olf-folks: what's wrong with 3.12? |
| 00:44.41 | olf-folks | abrotman: im not sure |
| 00:44.46 | Eduard_Munteanu | olf-folks: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-amd64&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all |
| 00:44.58 | abrotman | great answer, use 3.12, it's easily obtainable for all versions of Debian |
| 00:45.34 | olf-folks | so debian 7 can have 3.12? |
| 00:45.41 | abrotman | yes |
| 00:45.45 | abrotman | dpkg: tell olf-folks about wheezy-backports |
| 00:46.44 | olf-folks | ah okay good |
| 00:47.29 | olf-folks | so i should install 7 or 8 |
| 00:47.34 | olf-folks | :S |
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| 00:48.46 | abrotman | there is no 8 |
| 00:48.50 | abrotman | and i fyou're asking, 7 |
| 00:49.19 | olf-folks | abrotman: o7 yezir |
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| 00:51.49 | olf-folks | ok ill bb when it gets done |
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| 00:58.56 | codepython777 | how do i move to kernel 3.12.x from 3.2? |
| 00:59.05 | codepython777 | without compiling it from scratch? I'm on wheezy |
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| 00:59.22 | dvs | !tell codepython777 about bpo kernel |
| 01:01.27 | reavengrey | I feel so pro |
| 01:01.38 | reavengrey | I'm doing my first debootstrap and chroot thingie |
| 01:01.51 | abrotman | dpkg: tell codepython777 about wheezy-backports |
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| 01:03.01 | codepython777 | its saying its installing 3.12.0... |
| 01:03.41 | _FBi | w00t |
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| 01:08.24 | codepython777 | when is wheezy actually moving to 3.12? any timelines? |
| 01:08.36 | reavengrey | They don't do things that way |
| 01:08.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | codepython777: might not do at all |
| 01:08.39 | dvs | codepython777: never |
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| 01:09.57 | codepython777 | Do wheezy machines get a new kernel with apt-get update/upgrade ever? |
| 01:10.04 | reavengrey | No |
| 01:10.17 | reavengrey | Jessie is the next release |
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| 01:10.27 | reavengrey | You will get a newer kernel with jessie |
| 01:10.48 | reavengrey | You can also choose to backport the current kernel package provided with jessie to your wheezy installation |
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| 01:10.54 | Eduard_Munteanu | codepython777: they do get new kernels but not new releases, they're patched instead. |
| 01:11.04 | reavengrey | !tell codepython777 about backports |
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| 01:11.22 | codepython777 | what version of the kernel is jessie getting? |
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| 01:11.27 | abrotman | codepython777: unknown |
| 01:11.58 | reavengrey | ,v linux-kernel-headers |
| 01:11.59 | judd | No package named 'linux-kernel-headers' was found in i386. |
| 01:12.14 | abrotman | reavengrey: packages.debian.org/linux-headers |
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| 01:13.21 | reavengrey | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 01:13.23 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.12+55~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.12+55; sid: 3.12+55 |
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| 01:13.37 | abrotman | reavengrey: is there a resaon you can't use packages.debian.org or msg the bot? |
| 01:13.45 | abrotman | Because that's getting really fucking annoying |
| 01:14.11 | reavengrey | How would I go about making the bot tell me that via PM? |
| 01:14.21 | abrotman | reavengrey: /msg judd versions bash |
| 01:14.28 | reavengrey | Kk, thanks |
| 01:16.14 | codepython777 | was trying to move from wheezy to jessie -> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie - E: Malformed line 8 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) |
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| 01:17.09 | codepython777 | whats wrong in this line: deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/testing main ? |
| 01:17.42 | dvs | codepython777: no slash between debian and testing |
| 01:18.30 | codepython777 | dvs: I read "debian/testing"? |
| 01:18.51 | codepython777 | oh you mean i should have that it should read: "deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian testing main"? |
| 01:18.52 | dvs | codepython777: deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian testing main |
| 01:19.09 | codepython777 | k, thanks |
| 01:19.33 | codepython777 | got it, working, thanks |
| 01:19.53 | codepython777 | W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/testing/dists/updates/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.36 80] |
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| 01:40.42 | abrotman | codepython777: you sohuld just stay with wheezy |
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| 01:49.49 | codepython777 | abrotman: I was trying to use docker - wheezy is too old for that? |
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| 01:50.12 | codepython777 | abrotman: Just downloaded everything for dist-upgrade |
| 01:50.27 | abrotman | codepython777: there are 12 other dock programs in wheezy .. brilliant plan |
| 01:50.31 | abrotman | puts codepython777 on the list |
| 01:51.00 | codepython777 | abrotman: 12other dock programs? I tried apt-get install docker on wheezy - got into problems. |
| 01:51.31 | codepython777 | abrotman: isnt wheezy's kernel too old for docker? |
| 01:51.41 | cast | abrotman: docker is a container type project |
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| 01:59.48 | Guest30643 | oddest thing i installed sshd, when i connect to it from the loclahost and use one of the standard user accounts to authentciate it works immediately.. |
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| 02:00.20 | Guest30643 | when i connect from a remote host it prompts me for a password 3 times and the displays a prompt saying user@host's password: and disconnects |
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| 02:00.36 | Guest30643 | has anyone ever encountered this behavior ? |
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| 02:01.03 | Eduard_Munteanu | Guest30643: might need to alter /etc/securetty to login as root with a password |
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| 02:02.01 | Guest30643 | Eduard_Munteanu, I'm not logging in as root. |
| 02:02.16 | Guest30643 | Eduard_Munteanu, i'm logging in as a regular user using the -l option |
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| 02:04.33 | silvea12 | Hey, I am trying to build a package on debian for a friend, but I am having issues... I am using both i386 and amd64 (they are running in VMs), and for both of them, I am unable to get linux-headers-generic and libswingworker-java. Anyone know what I can substitute it with, or what I need to do to get those? |
| 02:04.42 | silvea12 | It works in ubuntu btw without any problems |
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| 02:08.10 | abrotman | cast: there are two |
| 02:08.34 | abrotman | cast: My understanding of docker is you can use LXC directly. The other docker, is just an applet dock |
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| 02:10.21 | cast | ahh...turns out i was the one who didn't know what docker was. didn't know it was a system tray, too |
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| 02:12.20 | abrotman | you did, you just didn't know about all of them :) |
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| 02:19.59 | Guest30643 | i'm actually getting pretty frustrated here |
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| 02:22.35 | centrx | Go on... |
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| 02:25.48 | Guest30643 | http://pastebin.com/xRJLxN59 |
| 02:26.00 | Guest30643 | there is a verbose list of output related to my issue from the client side |
| 02:26.16 | Guest30643 | i have logging turned up to debug3 on the server side and nothing is showing up |
| 02:26.21 | centrx | Have you considered using telnet |
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| 02:28.09 | Guest30643 | god damn am i an idiot |
| 02:28.24 | Guest30643 | i missed one digit in the ip address and was hitting the college's router LOL |
| 02:28.45 | Guest30643 | centrx: an no telnet is highly insecure |
| 02:29.25 | abrotman | you use telnet to test the connection, not actually login |
| 02:29.39 | centrx | Sorry just kidding |
| 02:30.24 | abrotman | isn't sure how this is a Debian problem anyway |
| 02:31.52 | _FBi | lol |
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| 02:32.15 | asdasdasd_ | ls |
| 02:32.25 | asdasdasd_ | hello |
| 02:32.33 | asdasdasd_ | how secure is NFSV4? |
| 02:32.44 | abrotman | Are you going off your LAN? |
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| 02:32.58 | asdasdasd_ | yes, it's LAN |
| 02:33.11 | _FBi | need for speed 4? |
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| 02:33.28 | asdasdasd_ | nfs version 4 |
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| 02:42.34 | Wamphyri | is there a way i can get spamassasin to delete email it has detected as junk? |
| 02:43.01 | abrotman | There's a pretty large #spamassassin |
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| 02:43.35 | Wamphyri | thank you :) |
| 02:43.37 | abrotman | well "large" |
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| 02:46.03 | olf-folks | it is still installing |
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| 02:52.38 | brounoa | failed to execute pm-hibernate. command prompt is returned and nothing else happened. have to config or set something? |
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| 02:57.04 | carrera | Greetings! :) |
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| 02:57.32 | carrera | is Debian based on System V? |
| 02:57.55 | AimHere | Debian isn't based on any actual Unix; it's mostly Linux plus GNU |
| 02:58.22 | abrotman | he wants to know if init style is sysv or bsd |
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| 02:58.48 | carrera | right, I know that. Perhaps I should have asked what Linux is based on? |
| 02:59.11 | AimHere | carrera, different Linuxen use different init-style systems |
| 02:59.41 | carrera | abortman, that's right. I was mostly thinking of what the configuration (/etc) was based on |
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| 03:00.27 | carrera | AimHere, thanks and Ubuntu changed to this crazy new way as of 12.04 or something |
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| 03:00.48 | AimHere | carrera, Debian's init style is System V; I seem to recall Slackware uses the other one |
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| 03:01.30 | carrera | AimHere, what about RedHat & Fedora, they should be based on Sys V too |
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| 03:01.53 | AimHere | It's been more than ten years since I installed anything RedHatty. I've no idea |
| 03:02.13 | carrera | AimHere, thank you sir! :) |
| 03:02.34 | abrotman | carrera: this stuff is documented on the intenret |
| 03:02.59 | AimHere | We are the internet! |
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| 03:04.28 | carrera | abrotman, thanks and also in the Unix System Administration Handbook |
| 03:05.32 | carrera | abrotman, I did a quick search on Google for "is Linux based on System V" but the first few links didn't mention anything |
| 03:06.18 | abrotman | carrera: "linux init system comparison" .. I don't know, try ##linux |
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| 03:08.44 | yubiwasabi2 | how to setup the enviorement |
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| 03:09.34 | carrera | abrotman, thank you sir. Just asked on Ubuntu and they provided a couple of useful links to the "upstart" event-driven initilization system |
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| 03:10.21 | abrotman | uh .. sure |
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| 03:11.22 | carrera | abrotman, would you like me to paste the links here? |
| 03:13.59 | carrera | what is Debian insserv? |
| 03:15.00 | abrotman | no |
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| 03:15.16 | abrotman | All of this stuff is documented on the internet, learn to use google |
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| 03:16.13 | carrera | I am! |
| 03:16.53 | peterrooney | abrotman: have mercy. 90% of google results are crap, _especially_ if you are unfamiliar with the subject matter. |
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| 03:17.02 | Deesl | carrera: well you are probably not looking hard enough... |
| 03:17.21 | abrotman | peterrooney: "Debian wiki insserv" .. really not that hard |
| 03:17.52 | abrotman | wikipedia probably even has material |
| 03:18.20 | carrera | peterrooney, thank you sir! |
| 03:18.50 | carrera | abrotman, I just typed that as soon as I saw it in a comparison of Sys V inti and upstart |
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| 03:35.04 | swulf-- | I'm trying to install debian on my laptop, but it's relatively new and debian wheezy doesn't have the firmware for my wifi card (though testing and unstable both have it). is it possible to still install wheezy with the appropriate firmware somehow? |
| 03:35.25 | _FBi | yes |
| 03:35.28 | Zer000 | so I'm trying to disable transmission-daemon from running on startup. The problem is i've installed systemd and "systemctl disable transmission-daemon.service" doesn't work |
| 03:35.34 | swulf-- | fbi: how? :) |
| 03:35.34 | Zer000 | what do I do? |
| 03:35.42 | _FBi | swulf--, no idea, but it is possible |
| 03:36.17 | _FBi | swulf--, can you add modules and such to an image? |
| 03:36.23 | swulf-- | well, can I just download the .deb from sid and have the installer install it before trying to connect to the network? |
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| 03:36.39 | swulf-- | fbi: you mean, rebuilding an install image? |
| 03:36.41 | abrotman | swulf--: which wifi card? |
| 03:36.46 | _FBi | ^ |
| 03:36.54 | swulf-- | abrot: intel 7260 |
| 03:37.04 | abrotman | swulf--: abro<tab> |
| 03:37.11 | abrotman | Zer000: man update-rc.d |
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| 03:37.16 | swulf-- | ah |
| 03:37.21 | abrotman | swulf--: Are you install in the installer? |
| 03:37.31 | swulf-- | abrotman: Sorry? |
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| 03:37.59 | abrotman | sorr |
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| 03:38.07 | abrotman | are you still in the installer? |
| 03:38.19 | swulf-- | I can bring it up |
| 03:38.30 | abrotman | you don't have an installed system is my quesiton |
| 03:38.34 | swulf-- | I don't |
| 03:38.37 | JoshuaP | what os newer: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 or linux-image-amd64 |
| 03:38.45 | abrotman | swulf--: do you have the optoin to use wired? |
| 03:38.54 | swulf-- | nope, this laptop doesn't have an eth port |
| 03:38.55 | abrotman | JoshuaP: they are different packages, ensure the latter is isntalled |
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| 03:39.10 | abrotman | swulf--: debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ .. use the jessie installer |
| 03:39.23 | swulf-- | yeah, ok. that's what I was considering |
| 03:39.39 | Zer000 | abrotman: thanks! that command worked |
| 03:39.45 | JoshuaP | abrotman: which did you use? |
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| 03:39.53 | abrotman | JoshuaP: the latter, I just told you that |
| 03:40.04 | abrotman | dpkg: tell JoshuaP about metapackage |
| 03:40.06 | swulf-- | abrotman: thanks |
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| 03:43.26 | Zer000 | I have another systemd related question: which directory should I add my custom .service files to? |
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| 03:58.36 | mdim | how to check a package version in backports? |
| 03:58.54 | centrx | one way is visit packages.debian.org/<package name> |
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| 04:00.22 | mdim | centrx: I can't figure out how does that relate to what I'd like to find out. For example, I'm interested in what's the version of Evolution in backports. At the link you provided I can see what versions are available in testing and unstable |
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| 04:00.51 | abrotman | mdim: it's quite likely Evolution hasn't been backported |
| 04:01.13 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/ you can browse all the packages |
| 04:01.13 | mdim | abrotman: how can I confirm that? |
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| 04:01.54 | abrotman | so I would imagine Evlution would be under Mail there, and I don't see it |
| 04:02.18 | mdim | abrotman: neither under gnome |
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| 04:04.08 | mdim | abrotman: do you have a suggestion on how to get Evolution to a more recent version? |
| 04:06.06 | abrotman | mdim: eh, why? it depends on many other componenets |
| 04:06.50 | mdim | abrotman: Evolution 3.4.4 seems buggy. For example, I write a reply to an email, it gets sent, but the reply window keeps on hanging there and I can't kill it |
| 04:07.56 | abrotman | mdim: I'd check error logs before trying to upgrade |
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| 04:08.27 | mdim | abrotman: how do I do that? Where should I be looking at? |
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| 04:10.12 | abrotman | Look in the documentation |
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| 04:14.51 | `l1t3p1p3` | afpacket.cfg debian IPS configuration using smooth-sec AF_SENSOR_IP is that my local ip addy? |
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| 04:15.59 | `l1t3p1p3` | also their gateway is set to 192.168.1.1 my gateway is 192.168.14.21 change it? thanx |
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| 04:24.47 | veek | i'm not seeing any audio on my headphones - they work in windows |
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| 04:25.00 | veek | it's a inspiron 1545 |
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| 04:30.05 | `l1t3p1p3` | veek what do you see when you type this from cli: aplay -l |
| 04:30.18 | `l1t3p1p3` | also check alsamixer make sure nothing muted etc |
| 04:30.32 | veek | card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog] |
| 04:30.34 | veek | etc |
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| 04:34.17 | `l1t3p1p3` | right sound card chosen in alsa nothing muted? |
| 04:34.52 | `l1t3p1p3` | probably, i'll try googling your lappy and debian etc see if anything comes up... |
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| 04:37.05 | veek | done many thanks |
| 04:37.24 | veek | darn it 'MM' is mute |
| 04:37.26 | veek | i was looking at the sliders |
| 04:38.40 | `l1t3p1p3` | i've done that too |
| 04:39.06 | `l1t3p1p3` | i was just gonna say if you don't have it try grabbing the alsamixergui from synaptic :) |
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| 04:39.41 | `l1t3p1p3` | i'm running headphone out to reference monitors on my lappy so understand |
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| 04:40.24 | `l1t3p1p3` | if you got any idea on IDS/IPS with wheezy lemme know use some help with ip info just trying make sure enter right stuff thanx |
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| 04:41.17 | `l1t3p1p3` | actually i got the ids set up just need some quick ips guidance |
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| 04:44.50 | olf-folks | enjoying my fresh debian install |
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| 04:44.59 | indieross | how often is the sid repo updated? |
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| 04:45.32 | centrx | indieross, Daily, sometimes multiple times a day I believe |
| 04:45.36 | olf-folks | i added the backports and then apt-cache search linux-image |
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| 04:46.40 | olf-folks | linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-amd64 - Linux 3.12 for 64-bit PCs VS linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 - Linux 3.12 for 64-bit PCs, PREEMPT_RT |
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| 04:48.03 | centrx | Go on... |
| 04:48.57 | olf-folks | what one should i choze? |
| 04:49.02 | mdim | how to update the first day of week in locale? I tried on a couple of places, but none worked... |
| 04:49.22 | mdim | in particular, I use the US locale, but would like to have Monday as the first day of week |
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| 04:49.59 | centrx | olf-folks, preempt_rt (Real Time) is a special kind of scheduling mechanism usually for things like embedded devices and industrial control mechanisms |
| 04:50.04 | centrx | olf-folks, So you want the other one |
| 04:50.27 | olf-folks | centrx: thanks |
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| 04:53.04 | olf-folks | errror http://paste.debian.net/78541/ |
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| 04:53.44 | mjt | olf-folks: bpo instructions says how to install packages from bpo |
| 04:53.51 | swulf-- | hmmm. debian installer isn't detecting my wifi card still. I think it has something to do with the fact that it's hardware disabled by bios? |
| 04:54.33 | tech10171968 | nope, that doesn't help at all |
| 04:54.39 | olf-folks | mjt: sorry what is bpo? |
| 04:55.35 | centrx | swulf--, Yes, if it is disabled in the BIOS, probably not going to work in the operating system...? |
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| 04:56.55 | swulf-- | centrx: it's not disabled "in the bios" but rather, it's a key on the keyboard that you can use to enable/disable the wifi power |
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| 04:57.21 | swulf-- | and the key is orange, meaning disabled, and pressing it does nothing |
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| 04:57.42 | `l1t3p1p3` | check ifconfig -a |
| 04:58.19 | tech10171968 | good answer. Mine stays orange until I bring up ifconfig |
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| 04:58.44 | centrx | olf-folks, Basically the new kernel requires a new version of another package that is in backports, but your apt policy tells it to stick with the old version of the dependency, unless you explicitly install it or change the policy |
| 04:59.20 | olf-folks | so i have to --force it? |
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| 05:00.45 | tech10171968 | damn, wifi going weak... |
| 05:01.23 | centrx | olf-folks, I think you can just add initramfs-tools to you apt-get install command line |
| 05:01.33 | centrx | olf-folks, apt-get install X Y Z |
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| 05:02.30 | olf-folks | bah okay sounds good |
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| 05:03.23 | centrx | olf-folks, Or I guess this is the way to do it: apt-get -t wheezy-backports install "package" |
| 05:03.49 | centrx | T for Target release |
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| 05:06.03 | olf-folks | woo, its going |
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| 05:11.21 | mjt | olf-folks: please don't listen centrx, but actually follow the bpo (backports) instructions. |
| 05:12.10 | mjt | oh. centrx already corrected himself. |
| 05:12.16 | mjt | n/m |
| 05:12.25 | doomon | apt-cache search vconfig, missing whats the "new" way to do it? |
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| 05:12.51 | centrx | mjt, I had to quickly stop him from using --force :) |
| 05:13.57 | mjt | doomon: is it a question? |
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| 05:16.05 | doomon | mjt: yes, if you know, I'm searching the docs |
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| 05:16.36 | centrx | doomon, apt-cache search just searches package name and descriptions |
| 05:17.07 | centrx | ~$ apt-cache search vconfig |
| 05:17.07 | centrx | libc-bin - Embedded GNU C Library: Binaries |
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| 05:17.56 | doomon | I'll try aptitude vlan - afk |
| 05:19.36 | doomon | nope, you gotta love/hate debian |
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| 05:20.13 | mjt | vconfig in libc-bin is from iconvconfig |
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| 05:20.46 | doomon | regex match but not the same |
| 05:20.58 | mjt | not the same as what? |
| 05:21.18 | mjt | thinks that doomon is asking.. unclear questions |
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| 05:23.13 | doomon | sorry mjt |
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| 05:26.47 | centrx | I think he is speaking to the other side, and we are the medium |
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| 05:28.47 | JordanJ2 | Hello, Could someone help me with a error on Teamspeak runnig on Debian? |
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| 05:30.20 | centrx | JordanJ2, Sure, give your question a shot |
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| 05:31.10 | JordanJ2 | Well, when I try to delete a channel i'm getting "file input/output error" |
| 05:32.25 | centrx | any more error information that that? Can you run the program with a debug flag? |
| 05:32.43 | dequeued | strace it, JordanJ2 |
| 05:32.57 | dequeued | it sounds like it's likely a permission problem in /dev |
| 05:33.04 | JordanJ2 | dequeued, Could you tell me how to do that? |
| 05:33.20 | dequeued | do strace ./program |
| 05:33.32 | dequeued | you can also pipe it into grep to filter out only syscalls for i/o |
| 05:33.44 | dequeued | strace runs the program, but traces the system calls it makes |
| 05:33.54 | dequeued | so you can see where it tries to do whatever causes the error |
| 05:34.10 | dequeued | you may have to apt-get install strace if it isn't there |
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| 05:35.56 | `l1t3p1p3` | uh, i think i'm gonna NOT set up my IPS and just hang with the IDS, sumthin about needing nic cards etc :) |
| 05:36.14 | JordanJ2 | Would I stop Teamspeak first, dequeued? |
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| 05:43.43 | dequeued | yes |
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| 05:44.45 | JordanJ2 | dequeued, I've ran it with strace, but I don't see anything |
| 05:45.05 | JordanJ2 | It's running in the background |
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| 05:56.55 | mdim | does anyone have Evolution set up to talk to a Courier-IMAP server? I just can't connect to the server |
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| 05:59.29 | dequeued | JordanJ2, |
| 05:59.44 | JordanJ2 | Yes? |
| 05:59.54 | dequeued | what does strace say after an i/o error? |
| 05:59.58 | dequeued | after the error, quit it |
| 06:00.03 | dequeued | and then go back and look |
| 06:00.19 | dequeued | you should see an fopen or something, and then the failure |
| 06:00.32 | dequeued | it's probably something with pulseaudio or also |
| 06:00.33 | dequeued | alsa |
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| 06:00.50 | dequeued | I'd lookout for like, fopen("/dev/dsp00") blah blah something liek that |
| 06:00.54 | dequeued | sorry kind of drunk obviously |
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| 06:01.26 | dequeued | it shouldn't be hard either, because it will reveal error |
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| 06:02.09 | JordanJ2 | dequeued, http://trashb.info/b4198972 |
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| 06:06.19 | dequeued | hmm... |
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| 06:07.53 | dequeued | JordanJ2, |
| 06:07.59 | dequeued | does that include the error message you got? |
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| 06:12.06 | dequeued | the closest thing I saw to an error, but it turns out that it's not harmful http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=409018 |
| 06:12.56 | JordanJ2 | No, after I started it, it closed |
| 06:13.04 | JordanJ2 | So I couldn't see the error |
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| 06:17.56 | ske14 | Is there an easier way to change your localized language? I have a person who wants to use one language and an other wants to use a different language on the same computer. |
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| 06:23.03 | dequeued | I need more info, JordanJ2 |
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| 06:23.56 | JordanJ2 | Well, I started the server with strace but it wen't into the background so I couldn't see anything. |
| 06:24.00 | dequeued | can you see the teamspeak log? |
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| 06:25.30 | JordanJ2 | Nott sure |
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| 06:27.09 | JordanJ2 | http://puu.sh/6zMhm.png |
| 06:27.30 | zer0s | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.51 | zer0s | i have login set to my domain name |
| 06:28.20 | zer0s | i'll post bin |
| 06:29.15 | zer0s | http://pastebin.com/QWKntzC0 |
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| 06:36.54 | pbase | finally found the exact problem description here - http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=136849 (i have has this problem for like 2 years now). Anyone got solutions? |
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| 06:48.18 | joj | pbase: I assume you are running either the latest kernel or the latest kernel on your distro? I have a suggestion: when the problem occurs, try `alsactl init` to re-initialize the soundcard. Second, trying to track down the problem, do a `sudo alsactl store` when the card is in a OK state, and stash /var/lib/alsa/asound.state (may also be found under /etc) away. Let the card go mute, and do the same. Look at |
| 06:48.20 | joj | the diff between the two files and check if something has changed. |
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| 06:49.55 | pbase | joj: kernel -3.2.0-4-amd64 (wheezy) |
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| 06:50.08 | joj | pbase: are you sure the mixer controls don't switch themselves to mute ($alsamixer)? What state are the mixer controls for the speakers in when the problem occurs? |
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| 06:50.27 | pbase | alsamixer controls are fine. no automute |
| 06:50.43 | pbase | set to 50% |
| 06:51.00 | joj | pbase: OK, and the speakers are not muted right (silly question, sorry) |
| 06:51.21 | pbase | yes.. as the problem states. they stop in the middle of the play |
| 06:51.27 | pbase | suddenly |
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| 06:51.56 | pbase | joj: i had pulseaudio for a couple of applications. just removed them |
| 06:53.13 | joj | pbase: Intuitively, I would try with the latest kernel ... I'm also running Debian on a almost 2 years old netbook, and only with >=3.8 hibernate started working. You may pull in a newer kernel from testing. Also, what's your soundcard ? |
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| 06:57.47 | pbase | joj: the card is Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) |
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| 06:58.13 | pbase | joj: yes. had the same problem with hibernate and sleep |
| 06:58.24 | pbase | joj: but now they work |
| 06:59.09 | pbase | joj: i fixed the hibernate problem by creating a swap file instead of using a swap parition |
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| 07:00.45 | pbase | joj: i just did a alsa-reload and the sound works properly now |
| 07:01.13 | joj | pbase: I wonder if this is related to some powersave feature |
| 07:01.21 | pbase | i too had that suspicion |
| 07:01.28 | pbase | looks like some module is unloaded |
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| 07:03.23 | joj | pbase: I suppose your card is using the snd_intel_hda kernel module? Maybe look into the kernel doc on that module, the available parameters and play with them sensibly |
| 07:03.45 | pbase | joj: yes |
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| 07:05.06 | joj | pbase: disabling power saving and such. Brings me to powertop: have you installed it? sudo powertop > tab "Tunables" > Toggle the entry for the Intel soundcard to "bad" (= powersave features disabled) |
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| 07:07.21 | pbase | joj: nop. let me try it |
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| 07:13.26 | pbase | joj: it is not listed in the tunables |
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| 07:13.37 | pbase | and most of them are already set to bad |
| 07:14.07 | pbase | but this time the audio lasted 48 seconds (10 more seconds) |
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| 07:15.48 | joj | pbase: Hm, if the alsa-reload does solve the problem, just set up a script which runs in the background and just re-inits ALSA every 30 seconds...other than that, I'd really try a later kernel. (I'm 3.12 right now). |
| 07:15.51 | pbase | alsa force-reload is able to load the modules back and sounds starts working |
| 07:16.16 | pbase | ugly hack :( |
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| 07:16.41 | joj | pbase: just like scripting your cursor to wiggle every 5 mins to prevent the screensaver from coming up :-) |
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| 07:17.21 | pbase | joj: true that.. but dont think it is a solution. could be called a patchwork |
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| 07:17.44 | pbase | i have been suffering it for 2 years :( |
| 07:18.20 | pbase | though i hardly use laptop speakers.. headphones nrmally work out |
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| 07:18.42 | joj | pbase: indeed it is. howver, if the sound isn't distorted by the reload, and the command is inexpensive (almost no extra system load), I don't see why you couldn't put everything in |
| 07:18.49 | joj | ~/.xsession and forget about it |
| 07:19.19 | pbase | will do it this time |
| 07:20.04 | pbase | also i have a very very strange issue with bluetooth |
| 07:20.24 | pbase | it doesnt work by default on debian |
| 07:21.10 | pbase | but if i setup dual boot with windows, and set it up, it works on windows. and later if i booot into debian the first time, it works. but subsequently stops |
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| 07:21.41 | joj | pbase: bluez is ugly to configure. Besides that, I never used bluetooth on my computers and don't plan to. No reason really |
| 07:21.48 | pbase | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:22.17 | joj | pbase: on my system it's integreated into a Realtek superchip something |
| 07:22.24 | pbase | a wireless keyboard would be a great convenience |
| 07:23.10 | joj | pbase: I'm content with my thinkpad laptop keyboard. But it's no Model M that's true |
| 07:23.31 | pbase | lenovo works great with linux |
| 07:24.20 | pbase | wonder if microsoft pays kernel developers to introduce bugs intentionally ;) |
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| 07:26.11 | cast | struggling to find an app that just displays my clipboard contents at any one point in time, any suggestions? [reason: i'll be copy and pasting a few commands from websites into a terminal, and don't want to fall afoul of that whats-on-your-clipboard-isn't-what-you-selected-or-saw CSS trick |
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| 07:27.11 | pbase | cast: that would be an interesting application.. i normally use gedit |
| 07:27.36 | pbase | and yes i absolutely hate those line nubers |
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| 07:28.02 | cast | yeah...a few people do that. seems like something that we could automate out that step though |
| 07:28.31 | cast | if between selecting in browser you pause to glance down at your 'this is whats on the clipboard' box, before you middle clip in a terminal, that would be nice |
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| 07:28.54 | joj | cast: you can print and manage clipboard and X11 selections with a clipboard manager, like xcmenu https://github.com/Cloudef/xcmenu. Or just xclip -o -selection clipboard. see man 1 xclip |
| 07:28.59 | cast | ponders xclip in a tight loop |
| 07:29.27 | Guest30643 | system internals question |
| 07:29.40 | pbase | cast: event based trigger will reduce the load |
| 07:29.48 | pbase | event being onhover |
| 07:30.22 | Guest30643 | syslog is setup to accept remote logging over udp port 514, I figured for the purpose of transparency that most logs, like login, would be generated using this same behavior but just be sending a udp datagram to the localhost's endpoint... |
| 07:30.25 | cast | sure, though, will be getting a bit complex at that point for me to implement |
| 07:30.26 | Guest30643 | am I wrong about this ? |
| 07:30.49 | Guest30643 | wireshark is showing nothing but a tail -f on auth.log is showing that an event is being posted |
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| 07:31.56 | pbase | brb. let me see if this hack works for my audio |
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| 07:32.25 | joj | cast: pbase: xclip -loop could be used in a script to monitor the clipboard for changes, and output to terminal or a graphical dialog using eg. zenity or kdialog |
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| 07:33.05 | cast | joj: was thinking that, though with a small terminal window somewhere |
| 07:33.25 | joj | cast: that makes it only easier |
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| 07:34.19 | cast | that said, other option...textmode browsers can't have that issue can they |
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| 07:39.35 | joj | cast: well, if I paste something I always do C-x-e in Bash to edit the command line in $EDITOR (which is vim), do "*p or "+p to paste primary/clipboard and make sure nothing weird gets pasted. Because don't paste things from the Internet ;-) |
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| 07:39.45 | joj | dfdfd |
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| 07:40.05 | joj | ↑ please ignore |
| 07:40.51 | cast | hmmm, this "*p, i presume is safe from <ESC> et al? |
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| 07:41.59 | cast | marks "*p as one of the more difficult things to get relevent search engine results for |
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| 07:45.26 | joj | cast: ":help clipboard" in vim :-) |
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| 08:31.30 | adkins | hello, is it possible in dual head screen setup to have different dpi`s on both monitors? |
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| 08:39.18 | adkins | the background of my question is: i`m about to buy a T530 with 15,6 inch screen and Full-HD resolution. this makes probably a pretty tiny font. While working on only the Notebook it is no problem since i can change the dpi with xrandr --dpi XY. But if i work with dual monitor (one external screen) i want to have the normal dpi on the external and a highter dpi on the laptop. |
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| 08:41.02 | adkins | i know it works in seperated screen mode with xorg.conf. but does it work also in twinview? unfortunately i cant test it since i am at work and have to hurry up to buy the device, since its an attractive offer |
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| 08:44.04 | adkins | or: does anyone know if i can hook up two monitors on an Thinkpad T530 with nvidia NVS5400M (one VGA and one Displayport). Does 2 monitors work simultanously? |
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| 08:46.39 | `l1t3p1p3` | i go hdmi out to a 40+ screen and just turn off the display on the lappy, but to answer your question yeah you can use diff rez, i turn down the native rez on the flat panel due to the fact it looks better |
| 08:46.58 | `l1t3p1p3` | so sometimes what the manufacturer suggests isn't always what looks best imo |
| 08:47.19 | tparcina | How to check is my firewall running? |
| 08:47.32 | `l1t3p1p3` | the font on the flat panel just gets too small when set to native |
| 08:48.17 | adkins | `l1t3p1p3`: i dont want to change the resolution. only the dpi |
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| 08:48.40 | petern_ | font gets too small... you've heard of changing font sizes, right? |
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| 08:49.20 | `l1t3p1p3` | i'll let ya know petern |
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| 08:50.41 | `l1t3p1p3` | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dots_per_inch#DPI_measurement_in_monitor_resolution |
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| 08:53.15 | kammp | Is there a way to run a crontab every 15th second? If not, are there any third part package that can do this? |
| 08:53.22 | kammp | I need to run a php file every 15th second |
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| 08:54.20 | kammp | My best solution is that in crontab, every minute I call a script that do a while with sleep, sounds like a mess but it should work |
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| 08:54.51 | kammp | or maybe it will create a lot of instances of that script? |
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| 08:55.23 | kammp | or a crontab reboot only? What do you think |
| 08:55.31 | petern_ | 15 times a second? yes |
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| 08:55.45 | petern_ | rewrite the script so that it does the repeat itself |
| 08:55.46 | kammp | no, once ever 15 seconds |
| 08:55.50 | petern_ | oh |
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| 09:00.04 | joj | kammp: why not just do { while true; do php $whatever; sleep 15s; done }& ? |
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| 09:06.50 | nomad_dw | kammp: cron(8) only looks at crontabs every minute, so you won't get any job running with a higher resolution than that. |
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| 09:07.34 | nomad_dw | But every 15s? I'd either look at changing the logic/architecture of what you're trying to do, or write it as a daemon. |
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| 09:07.55 | nomad_dw | The latter is probably what you want. |
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| 09:11.58 | jimcooncat | kammp: if you can identify a change in a file, you may be able to use incron as your trigger. |
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| 09:13.17 | jimcooncat | kammp: so if a file or directory changes, it will run the php script for you |
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| 09:24.34 | obiwahn | is $klogConsoleLogLevel only used in rsyslogd or is it the same in syslogd |
| 09:24.42 | obiwahn | if not waht is the equivalent? |
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| 09:27.49 | bezaban | obiwahn: as far as I can tell this is handledbu the kernel log input module and is not related to a syslog implementation |
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| 09:31.53 | obiwahn | so i can put '$klogConsoleLogLevel = 3' in syslog.conf an be happy |
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| 09:36.26 | bechesa | exit |
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| 09:38.19 | jelly | obiwahn: all the $variable stuff is rsyslog specific |
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| 09:40.26 | obiwahn | http://paste.debian.net/78560/ |
| 09:40.42 | obiwahn | i do not want that all messages or many are send to the console |
| 09:41.03 | obiwahn | because i can not even do login when i am at the machine |
| 09:41.04 | __marco | hello, where I can find the default debian's kernel configuration for a specific distribution? (supposing I don't have installed that distribution) |
| 09:41.12 | obiwahn | waht would i have to change |
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| 09:41.26 | obiwahn | i have read man 5 syslog |
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| 09:41.42 | obiwahn | would it be ok to change xconsole to something like tty3 |
| 09:41.50 | obiwahn | would that solve my problem? |
| 09:42.05 | mjt | .ignore obiwahn |
| 09:42.06 | mjt | er |
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| 09:42.36 | obiwahn | - |
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| 09:46.50 | jelly | dpkg, tell obiwahn about printk |
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| 09:55.55 | larsemil | using mailutils.mail on ubuntu i can specify the -r as FROM. in 2.99.97 in wheezy -r is something totally different. anyone knows what to do? |
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| 10:04.03 | Linnak | Hi, I've two questions. Why glide and magic lamp effect cannot be activated in KDE? |
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| 10:13.41 | DarkSim | Just a quick question, is it easy to install Debian in SID from the get-go and is it easy to maintain? |
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| 10:14.55 | adkins | Can anyone tell me if its possible with a thinkpad T530 with nvidia to hook up one external monitor with vga and one with display port simultaneously in debian? it would be ok if the internal monitor goes off |
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| 10:16.29 | Guest7224 | Why iceweasel looks ugly like windows 2000? |
| 10:16.43 | daemonkeeper | adkins: Works for me with T420s. |
| 10:17.32 | adkins | daemonkeeper: nice. without docking station? |
| 10:17.49 | daemonkeeper | I do use a docking station, since I do not use DP regularly. |
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| 10:18.32 | bezaban | DarkSim: easy enough to install. Maintenancewise you need to except unstable possibly breaking. |
| 10:18.35 | bezaban | expect* |
| 10:19.01 | DarkSim | But Arch-level unstable? |
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| 10:19.43 | Guest7224 | Can someone give me a source where I can ask my questions? |
| 10:20.09 | adkins | daemonkeeper: would you say that its possible also without docking station or do you think there could be a possibility that it works only with docking station? |
| 10:20.28 | adkins | ok my question might sound a little confusing |
| 10:20.31 | DarkSim | bezaban: In comparison to Arch, how unstable? |
| 10:20.32 | adkins | ;) |
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| 10:20.43 | adkins | why should it only work with docking? |
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| 10:21.10 | adkins | could there be a reason/explanation for that? |
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| 10:22.22 | daemonkeeper | adkins: I do not see how the docking station would make any difference. It's transparent. |
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| 10:23.16 | bezaban | DarkSim: never used arch. |
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| 10:24.17 | DarkSim | bezaban: Oh ok, I'm such a dirty distro-hopper, uncurable haha. I hope Debian will be thing that keeps me calm |
| 10:24.19 | DarkSim | Cya |
| 10:24.38 | bezaban | DarkSim: good luck, but consider starting with stable or testing |
| 10:24.39 | adkins | daemonkeeper: thats what i think too. thanks |
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| 10:25.10 | bezaban | DarkSim: it's easy to upgrade from stable if you find something you really need in testing or even unstable |
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| 10:54.58 | tparcina | How to change the order of running programs on gnome down panel? |
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| 10:55.35 | tparcina | I can't left-click an move. And I can't right click on them. |
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| 10:57.57 | tparcina | LonoSpangle: I don't know. The one that comes with Jessie. How to check? |
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| 10:59.27 | LonoSpangle | gnome-shell --version |
| 10:59.59 | tparcina | LonoSpangle: GNOME Shell 3.8.4 |
| 11:00.02 | abrotman | 3.8.x |
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| 11:01.44 | LonoSpangle | well, left-click, hold, move |
| 11:01.47 | LonoSpangle | by default |
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| 11:02.03 | abrotman | which works for me |
| 11:02.13 | tparcina | LonoSpangle: Well, that doens't work. At least not for me. .( |
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| 11:44.06 | jimcooncat | how do I view my graphics card information from cli, please? |
| 11:44.25 | bezaban | lspci |
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| 11:45.52 | jimcooncat | Thanks bezaban . I see it under lspci, anything more detailed? |
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| 11:46.37 | jimcooncat | sorry bezaban, lspci -v |
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| 11:47.29 | bezaban | jimcooncat: if you have nvidia drivers you can cat /proc/drivers/nvidia/stuff |
| 11:47.44 | bezaban | jimcooncat: there's also lshw, but not sure if it gives any more information |
| 11:47.56 | jimcooncat | bezaban, Intel. I'm trying to see where accelleration is enabled, as I'm trying to verify when I turn it off. |
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| 11:48.53 | bezaban | jimcooncat: then glxinfo might help, but I think X needs to be runnibng |
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| 11:50.33 | jimcooncat | ok, I get output. I guess I'll save and compare. thanks bezaban |
| 11:51.13 | bezaban | jimcooncat: first few lines (| head -5) are the ones of interest with regards to acceleration |
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| 11:56.36 | afsal | can't create new project in netbean. It just showing please wait... |
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| 12:03.46 | afsal | how degrade java from 6b27 to 6b24 |
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| 12:04.20 | Danic | Hi there, when I log on to my server using SSH, I get the following message: "Linux generic-hostname.vpsservice.com 2.6.32-028stab092.1 #1 SMP Wed Jul 20 19:47:12 MSD 2011 x86_64" I changed the hostname to something else, but it's still that generic stuff in there. How to change that?? |
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| 12:05.53 | afsal | how downgrade java from 6b27 to 6b24 |
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| 12:06.38 | SirLagz | Danic: that looks more like a kernel version string... |
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| 12:07.15 | Danic | Sir_Rai, it's the first output from the server after connecting with putty. |
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| 12:07.39 | Danic | Sir_Rai, sorry. |
| 12:07.48 | Sir_Rai | No problem :p |
| 12:07.53 | Danic | SirLagz, it's the first output from the server after connecting with putty. Any idea how to change it? |
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| 12:08.28 | SirLagz | Danic: I don't think you want to change it. |
| 12:08.40 | Linuxman255 | @Danic: is your /etc/hosts updated? |
| 12:08.45 | SirLagz | Danic: can you paste a screenshot of what it looks like ? |
| 12:09.16 | Danic | Linuxman255: Yes, I changed the hostname in /etc/hosts |
| 12:09.37 | netman1 | Danic: look at /etc/ssh/sshd_config item noissue nomotd |
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| 12:10.13 | netman1 | Danic: Don't forget to restart sshd. |
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| 12:10.52 | Danic | SirLagz, Is a text paste also okay? http://pastebin.com/GV2DpzkA |
| 12:11.07 | SirLagz | Danic: sure |
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| 12:12.25 | Danic | netman1, I did restart the service. and in the config I only see "PrintMotd no" |
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| 12:12.47 | Danic | I don't wanna restart the whole server though. Or is this necessary? |
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| 12:13.25 | Danic | It's not super important, but it would be nice to know how to get that in order. |
| 12:13.45 | SirLagz | Danic: nope, wasn't waht I thought it was. ignore me. |
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| 12:14.05 | Danic | SirLagz, thanks anyway |
| 12:14.39 | netman1 | @Danic: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=85822 |
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| 12:16.20 | Danic | netman1, ahh, so "service motd start" did the trick. That also answers the other question. A restart was needed :D |
| 12:16.27 | Danic | Tanks! |
| 12:16.35 | xai | Hello, what means "Bad header line" while "apt-get install"? |
| 12:16.40 | xai | Err http://mirror.mephi.ru/debian/ jessie/main devscripts amd64 2.13.9 |
| 12:16.43 | xai | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:16.48 | netman1 | ;-) |
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| 12:18.07 | adc | xai: what happens when you do a `apt-get update`? |
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| 12:18.38 | xai | adc: No errors reported. |
| 12:20.04 | xai | Hm... Changed to "FTP" (instead of "HTTP") and in worked.. But I'm a sysadmin of mirror.mephi.ru and want to understand the problem. |
| 12:20.09 | afsal | can't create new project in netbean. It just showing please wait... |
| 12:21.06 | xai | Strange. Now works via HTTP, too. |
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| 12:22.25 | bechesa | Hi Afsal which netbeans version are you using ? |
| 12:22.47 | adc | xai: ok, I just did a `wget http://mirror.mephi.ru/debian/` and see that you have some info in <left>...</left> tags before the <html> tags |
| 12:22.54 | afsal | bechesa: 7.0.1 |
| 12:22.55 | adc | xai: maybe that confuses apt-get |
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| 12:24.21 | afsal | bechesa: check this same problem for me http://askubuntu.com/questions/326556/i-cant-start-a-new-project-on-netbeans |
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| 12:25.38 | bechesa | afsal: I had the same sure. I upgraded to 7.4 |
| 12:25.52 | afsal | bechesa: how? |
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| 12:26.27 | nkuttler | ,v netbeans |
| 12:26.28 | judd | Package: netbeans on i386 -- jessie: 7.0.1+dfsg1-5; sid: 7.0.1+dfsg1-5; wheezy: 7.0.1+dfsg1-5 |
| 12:27.00 | bechesa | afsal: I downloaded directly from the netbeans site |
| 12:27.16 | bechesa | afsal: and installed it |
| 12:27.17 | afsal | bechesa: Mmm... ok |
| 12:27.46 | Voyager_MP | can anyone help with cryptsetup ? |
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| 12:28.57 | Voyager_MP | initramfs can't find /dev/mapper/hostname-root |
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| 12:30.28 | afsal | bechesa: you got a .sh |
| 12:30.34 | afsal | file? |
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| 12:35.30 | Quibus | hi |
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| 12:36.18 | Quibus | how can I mount my external drive as 'myself', i.e. the normal user and not root? It used to automount in /media/<username>/<vol-id>, but for some reason that stopped working |
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| 12:37.09 | crashev | Quibus: mount option -U => Mount the partition that has the specified uuid. These two options require the file /proc/partitions (present since Linux 2.1.116) to exist. |
| 12:37.38 | Quibus | crashev: how do I know the uuid? |
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| 12:38.07 | Quibus | also, if I mount as root, I get only root permissions on the drive |
| 12:38.25 | crashev | Quibus: I think it's another option, but there is option to specify user and group airc |
| 12:38.57 | Quibus | crashev: tried the -o uid=<username> but that gave an error |
| 12:39.04 | crashev | Quibus: try this mount -t deviceFileFormat -o umask=filePermissons,gid=ownerID,uid=ownerID /device /mountpoint |
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| 12:39.32 | Quibus | I wonder why I suddenly need to do that and the automount to /media/<username> got broken |
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| 12:41.05 | Quibus | crashev: that gives the generic error that something is wrong... wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdf1, etc. |
| 12:41.17 | Quibus | it mounts fine as root though |
| 12:41.40 | crashev | can't check it right now, don't have anything I could check it on at this moment |
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| 12:43.26 | folivora | Hello, How I can reinstall gnome-shell and all its dependencies ect via cli |
| 12:44.07 | Guest73678 | Hi Everyone, Why is iceweasel look ugly under Kde? |
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| 12:49.19 | bechesa | folivora: try aptitude reinstall gnome-shell |
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| 12:49.55 | Lacuska | Hi, I've got two questions. '. Why is Iceweasel looks ugly. I've installed gtk and qtcurve engines. 2. Why cannot activate glide and magic lamp effect? |
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| 12:50.13 | gueust43563 | will installing windows mess up grub? |
| 12:50.39 | maxorator | why can't I attach to a screen after I log in as the screen's owner via "su - username"? |
| 12:50.50 | maxorator | "Cannot open your terminal '/dev/pts/0' - please check." |
| 12:50.51 | Yeowang | gueust43563: Probably. It's rather messy to install Windows after you've got Grub installed. |
| 12:51.24 | gueust43563 | Yeowang, know what I should do? |
| 12:51.27 | Yeowang | gueust43563: That's why one is generally suggested to install Windows first, then everything else. |
| 12:51.58 | Yeowang | gueust43563: Nope, I went the easy way. Maybe you'll find something using your preferred search engine, since it's a often-discussed topic imo. |
| 12:52.14 | Quibus | You could install windows and then reinstall grub with a live cd |
| 12:52.21 | Quibus | Or dont' install windows at all |
| 12:52.27 | gueust43563 | aha |
| 12:52.28 | Yeowang | Quibus: That's not what he asked for. |
| 12:52.47 | gueust43563 | if I reinstall grub, would widnows work? |
| 12:52.48 | Quibus | Yeowang: what was? |
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| 12:53.08 | Quibus | gueust43563: usually you can teach grub to boot Windows |
| 12:53.18 | Quibus | But it was a long time ago I did that |
| 12:53.26 | Quibus | So don't ask me about the details, it's everywhere on the net |
| 12:53.33 | gueust43563 | well things changed since XP |
| 12:53.49 | Yeowang | Quibus: I meant to say that suggesting not installing Windows at all isn't helpful. |
| 12:54.03 | Quibus | Yeowang: that was the less serious note, the one before that was the more serious one |
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| 12:54.37 | Quibus | On my work PC I also did a dual install, and it turned out I never ran the Windows partition. It's just too annoying to have to reboot each time to switch |
| 12:54.43 | bechesa | gueust43563: Boot from any recent live cd. and use the grub tools |
| 12:54.44 | Quibus | VirtualBox proved to be much more productive |
| 12:54.57 | Yeowang | From what I've heard using a grub live cd is quite old, as you stade Quibus (using it when you still used XP)... |
| 12:55.11 | Yeowang | I suggest you back-up your stuff, print a list of things you installed and reroll. |
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| 12:56.30 | Quibus | or use 2 physical disks |
| 12:56.46 | linedash | https://lwn.net/Articles/582585/ |
| 12:56.51 | linedash | good read |
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| 12:59.47 | gueust43563 | maybe I'll just delete debian |
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| 13:00.28 | Yeowang | gueust43563: Why are you considering switching anyway? |
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| 13:01.28 | folivora | bechesa: nah wont work. My gnome-shell is always crashing when I change user. |
| 13:01.35 | gueust43563 | because i am not happy with debian |
| 13:01.35 | folivora | hmm |
| 13:01.52 | Yeowang | gueust43563: I guessed that. But what exactly? |
| 13:02.04 | gueust43563 | nothing works well |
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| 13:02.14 | gueust43563 | espcially virtual memory |
| 13:02.26 | gueust43563 | disk thrash , while there is ram free |
| 13:02.47 | Yeowang | gueust43563: I guess I can't add anything to that. :( Sucks you're having such a bad time. |
| 13:02.50 | gueust43563 | software versions are outdated, and bugged |
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| 13:03.50 | shawnbon206 | i need to pull a package from sid, what is the safest way to do this? |
| 13:04.38 | shawnbon206 | should i pin that one package? |
| 13:04.55 | shawnbon206 | i am on jessie |
| 13:05.01 | themill | dpkg: tell shawnbon206 about tum |
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| 13:06.12 | themill | shawnbon206: I assume you really just want to grab the current package from sid right now, not that you want to always use the sid version of that package when there are future updates |
| 13:06.18 | Anuska | why debian is so stable and nice with me? |
| 13:06.20 | Anuska | :) |
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| 13:07.09 | shawnbon206 | themill: i am not assuming it will ever be in jessie, its http://packages.debian.org/sid/fglrx-legacy-driver so what do you think? |
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| 13:08.05 | themill | it'll get into jessie eventually. (does that version of the driver even work with Xorg in jessie?) |
| 13:08.27 | shawnbon206 | themill: if i use apt-get -t sid like that what will happen when i do a dist-upgrade later? will it not update it? |
| 13:08.53 | shawnbon206 | themill: i dont know i have never installed it. i hope so |
| 13:09.03 | shawnbon206 | because i cant watch videos as it is |
| 13:09.07 | themill | no, it wouldn't update it with that configuration |
| 13:09.49 | shawnbon206 | it wouldnt update in that configuration UNLESS it showed up in jessie? correct? |
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| 13:10.02 | themill | correct |
| 13:10.07 | shawnbon206 | that might be the ideal solution then |
| 13:10.13 | themill | ,bug 726500 |
| 13:10.15 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/726500 in fglrx-legacy-driver (open, upstream): «fglrx-legacy-driver: does not support Xorg Xserver 1.13 or later»; severity: serious; opened: 2013-10-16; last modified: 2014-01-04. |
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| 13:10.59 | shawnbon206 | oh shit |
| 13:12.03 | Anuska | ,bug 1 |
| 13:12.05 | judd | Sorry, the requested bug was not found. |
| 13:12.55 | shawnbon206 | ii xorg 1:7.7+5 amd64 X.Org X Window System |
| 13:13.06 | bechesa | exit |
| 13:13.19 | shawnbon206 | i dont understand. is 1:7 older or newer then 1.13? |
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| 13:15.25 | shawnbon206 | 1:7.7+5 vs 1.13 |
| 13:15.42 | shawnbon206 | theyre not even using the same syntax |
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| 13:17.19 | nanare3rww | does gparted resize ext2 well? |
| 13:17.25 | themill | ,v xserver-xorg-core |
| 13:17.26 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-core on i386 -- squeeze: 2:1.7.7-16; squeeze-proposed-updates: 2:1.7.7-18; squeeze-security: 2:1.7.7-18; squeeze-backports: 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u2; jessie: 2:1.14.5-1; sid: 2:1.14.5-1; experimental: 2:1.15.0-1 |
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| 13:18.24 | themill | shawnbon206: ^^ 7.x stuff is a continuation of the monolithic xfree86 numbering scheme; xorg has been using 1.x for its releases for a while. NFC why both numbering schemes still exist. |
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| 13:19.35 | shawnbon206 | ok so in other words i have to downgrade to wheezy and stay there until bug #726500 is resolved? |
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| 13:20.23 | shawnbon206 | or can i downgrade just parts of xorg |
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| 13:20.45 | themill | It sounds like it's entirely possible that AMD will never provide a solution to that bug. |
| 13:21.12 | themill | Does the radeon driver not support the card you've got? |
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| 13:24.20 | shawnbon206 | oh i guess it does |
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| 13:25.32 | shawnbon206 | the instructions for the catalyst drivers said to download kernel headers, is it the same for the raedon drivers? |
| 13:26.06 | abrotman | no |
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| 13:26.28 | shawnbon206 | well i already did that step, do i need to undo it? |
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| 13:27.51 | shawnbon206 | shit it says i already have that driver |
| 13:28.14 | shawnbon206 | full screen video not working ._. |
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| 13:32.06 | zw | Can someone point me te a good pop3/pop3s/imap/imaps/smtp/smtps loadbalancer ? |
| 13:32.36 | abrotman | is tha tall? |
| 13:32.43 | abrotman | zw: LB or HA? |
| 13:33.05 | zw | abrotman: lb |
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| 13:34.07 | abrotman | zw: apt-cache search load balance |
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| 13:40.07 | nanare3rww | does gparted resize ext2 well? |
| 13:40.42 | jelly | nanare3rww: it ought to, yes. Growing a filesystem is better tested than shrinking. |
| 13:41.35 | jelly | nanare3rww: better to grab the latest gparted livecd/liveusb and boot from that than use the distro one |
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| 13:47.37 | nanare3rww | how to load mdadm from livecd? |
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| 13:53.54 | HellTiger__ | hello. i need to install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer (broadcom wlan) on a device without internet, only port i can use is usb. i could get the packages via apt-get download but thats not possible for a installer package which downloads thirdparty/closed source. any advice? |
| 13:53.57 | ChrisH | nanare3rww: load mdadm? mdadm binary should be there |
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| 13:54.15 | jelly | ChrisH: read "load" as "start my arrays" |
| 13:54.28 | nanare3rww | ChrisH: thanks, found mdadm --assemble --scan |
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| 13:55.13 | ChrisH | jelly: I see... /me was thinking about modprobe and /etc/system, but Solaris is offtopic here :) |
| 13:55.18 | nanare3rww | how to defrag? |
| 13:55.26 | nanare3rww | from livecd? |
| 13:55.36 | abrotman | defrag what? |
| 13:55.44 | ChrisH | and why? |
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| 13:56.07 | nanare3rww | defrag ext3 |
| 13:56.16 | jelly | nanare3rww: there's typically no need to defrag; and with ext2, I don't think there's a way to do it apart from the obvious |
| 13:56.16 | nanare3rww | because disk is slow |
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| 13:57.08 | nanare3rww | jelly, what is the obvious? cp to an other disk, and back? |
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| 13:57.59 | jelly | nanare3rww: yes. backup, reformat, restore. |
| 13:58.19 | nanare3rww | cp -ax / /backup/. ? |
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| 13:59.03 | jelly | if /backup is a separate, empty mountpoint, sure, that's a way. |
| 13:59.19 | nanare3rww | it is |
| 13:59.28 | jelly | prefers rsync |
| 13:59.33 | ChrisH | nanare3rww: how did you measure the slow disk? Did you check messsages, atop for unexpected things? slow disk can be a failing one. |
| 13:59.45 | nanare3rww | iotop |
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| 14:00.22 | nanare3rww | the disk is sometime 80MB/s and sometimes 2MB/s and the system crawls |
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| 14:07.09 | misterli | Hello. I've a question. I want to create a VSFTP user which have access to a folder in the /var/www (www-data group). I added a user and changed his group to www-data. The home is /var/www/templatepath/thispath/ which have www-data permissions. I cant create, upload or delete but download and connect. Any idea? |
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| 14:07.46 | misterli | with the user www-data:www-data it's working and uploaded. With the user templateuser : www-data it does not work |
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| 14:13.00 | misterli | working now after i restarted vsftpd |
| 14:13.33 | shad0VV | exit |
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| 14:20.35 | shawnbon206 | themill ok i disabled pepper flash and i can at least get by with how it is, albeit there is some screen tearing |
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| 14:23.27 | nanare3rww | i am trying to cp -ax it take ages |
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| 14:23.38 | nanare3rww | and i can't monitor the speed because i am on knoppix |
| 14:23.54 | nanare3rww | old knoppix |
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| 14:24.07 | nanare3rww | and can't install anything |
| 14:24.08 | jelly | nanare3rww: you can't open a new terminal and do df? |
| 14:24.15 | nanare3rww | df yes |
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| 14:24.32 | nanare3rww | but there I see very slow progression |
| 14:24.49 | jelly | watch -d 'df; echo; df -i' |
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| 14:26.05 | nanare3rww | it doesn't give me the rate though |
| 14:26.20 | nanare3rww | but I can work somethng with a stop watch i guess |
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| 14:27.05 | nanare3rww | would df slow me down? |
| 14:27.14 | jelly | nanare3rww: nope |
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| 14:27.29 | nanare3rww | waht is df -i |
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| 14:27.34 | jelly | nanare3rww: (and that's one of the reasons I prefer rsync) |
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| 14:28.02 | jelly | inodes used ~ roughly, the number of files |
| 14:28.07 | nanare3rww | jelly: what, a verbose progress bar? |
| 14:28.12 | jelly | yes. |
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| 14:30.54 | nanare3rww | copy goes at about 10MB/s |
| 14:31.02 | nanare3rww | crap |
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| 14:31.57 | nanare3rww | just 8 more hours to go |
| 14:32.24 | nanare3rww | 10MB/s this is rediculous no? |
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| 14:34.26 | nanare3rww | why does the rate of this disk suck so bad? |
| 14:34.54 | nanare3rww | maybe because it is fragmented |
| 14:34.57 | nanare3rww | badly? |
| 14:35.09 | Yukikaze | what filesystem |
| 14:35.16 | nanare3rww | ext3 |
| 14:35.21 | Yukikaze | unlikely |
| 14:35.22 | jelly | nanare3rww: it's a possibility but it's hard to guess. |
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| 14:36.05 | nanare3rww | maybe I better 'dd' it to its new destination |
| 14:36.11 | nanare3rww | and cp from the dd image |
| 14:36.44 | nanare3rww | dd would probably work faster |
| 14:36.46 | Yukikaze | ext3/4 gets fragmented at such a slow rate you should never encounter a problem due to that in normal use |
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| 14:37.24 | babilen | nanare3rww: You should be able to cp just as well (with the added benefit of not having to hardcode a blocksize) |
| 14:37.25 | nanare3rww | well, i am |
| 14:37.32 | Sh1G3rU | love ext4 |
| 14:37.57 | nanare3rww | babilen: what? |
| 14:38.19 | babilen | nanare3rww: I don't understand why you think that you have to use dd |
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| 14:38.45 | nanare3rww | babilen: because cp go slow, I suspect due to fragmentation |
| 14:39.21 | Yukikaze | like I said it's highly unlikely fragmentation would ever be an issue |
| 14:39.22 | nanare3rww | now the rate got higher |
| 14:39.30 | babilen | nanare3rww: I still don't follow - you are copying disks around? (i.e. "cp /dev/sdX /dev/sdY") or files? How would dd help? |
| 14:39.55 | nanare3rww | babilen: i copy files |
| 14:39.55 | Yukikaze | maybe if you've been using the same partition for the past 20 years... |
| 14:40.05 | babilen | nanare3rww: How would dd help with that? |
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| 14:40.09 | Yukikaze | but even then |
| 14:40.22 | babilen | nanare3rww: Sorry, just trying to understand |
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| 14:40.46 | jelly | nanare3rww: dd would replicate the exact same fragmentation |
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| 14:41.05 | nanare3rww | babilen: dd if=/dev/disk1 of=/mnt/imagefile ; mount imagefile, cp -ax fromimagefile/* /mnt/disk1 |
| 14:41.11 | babilen | (as would an exact copy of the entire filesystem with cp) |
| 14:41.50 | babilen | nanare3rww: You can just use "cp /dev/disk1 /mnt/imagefile" and take advantage of dynamic blocksize scaling. but then you would still have to copy from an identical filesystem |
| 14:41.53 | jelly | Yukikaze: I've had access sped up 30-40% on a Maildir store after defragmentation |
| 14:42.02 | fe0dor | hello all, in screen, someone know that is the C-a O shortcut ? |
| 14:42.04 | nanare3rww | babilen: I figured cp is slower, so doing it twice would mean I will wait more |
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| 14:42.30 | jelly | nanare3rww: cp back won't be as slow. |
| 14:42.54 | babilen | nanare3rww: dd is typically slower than cp as it uses an unfortunately small blocksize by default (yes, you can change that) |
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| 14:43.14 | nanare3rww | babilen: I useally change it to 1M |
| 14:43.34 | babilen | nanare3rww: Yes, but you can just use cp in lieu of dd and let that scale the blocksize for you automatically |
| 14:43.41 | babilen | anyway, lets move on :) |
| 14:44.05 | jelly | babilen: nanare3rww is making a backup copy of a fs, using cp -ax on the mountpoint, not the block device. |
| 14:44.16 | nanare3rww | babilen: ok, I wasn't aware I could cp /dev/sda1 /tmp/file |
| 14:45.11 | fe0dor | nobody ? |
| 14:45.14 | acidtech | so, this is gonna be a stupid question and not on topic, but anyone from here is good with shoutcast? |
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| 14:46.03 | nanare3rww | maybe I should change the FS ? |
| 14:46.12 | Yukikaze | I use icecast acidtech |
| 14:46.13 | nanare3rww | from ext3 to ext4? |
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| 14:46.57 | acidtech | YamakasY: i see ! well, i need to stream @ 2 different bitrates with shoutcast and it's a pain in the ass |
| 14:47.22 | Yukikaze | I've never used shoutcast only icecast |
| 14:47.27 | Yukikaze | and I'm doing just that |
| 14:47.37 | Yukikaze | https://ic.lolicon.eu/ |
| 14:47.52 | jelly | nanare3rww: how large a % of that fs is in use? |
| 14:47.54 | Yukikaze | one is at ogg q10 and the other q8 |
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| 14:48.28 | nanare3rww | jelly: 60 |
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| 14:48.33 | nanare3rww | jelly: 60% |
| 14:48.42 | acidtech | Yukikaze: nice ! the problem is that i already added my stream to a bunch of website, and if i change the .pls link, i can't edit them on all |
| 14:49.38 | jelly | nanare3rww: was it at any point at 90% or more for a prolonged period? |
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| 14:50.12 | jelly | nanare3rww: that's a common way to introduce excessive fragmentation to ext2-3 |
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| 14:50.27 | nanare3rww | jelly: no |
| 14:51.12 | jelly | it's too not likely fragmentation is the main cause for lowered io performance, then |
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| 14:54.07 | nanare3rww | jelly: if only there was some analysis tool that would tell us the reason |
| 14:55.18 | nanare3rww | dd work at 90MB/s |
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| 14:55.35 | nanare3rww | (I ctrl-z the cp -ax, and dd) |
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| 14:57.35 | jelly | nanare3rww: is this a consumer SATA disk? |
| 14:57.45 | nanare3rww | jelly: yes |
| 14:57.59 | jelly | don't expect much more |
| 14:58.22 | nanare3rww | jelly: the point is that cp gives 10MB/s and dd gives 90MB/s |
| 14:58.48 | jelly | if can do 90MB/s with a single streaming thread reading contiguous data. Your files are all over the place. |
| 14:58.51 | jelly | it* |
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| 14:59.10 | jelly | basically, you're already making a defragmented copy. |
| 14:59.29 | OpenTokix | nanare3rww: filesystem gives quite a lot of overhead, you can always tro to mount filesystem with: noatime,nobh,barrier=0,data=writeback (this is very aggressive mount options and should not be used on mount point with important data) |
| 14:59.34 | nanare3rww | jelly: which means the disk is fargmented? |
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| 15:00.00 | jelly | nanare3rww: which means files in a single directory are not next to each other right now |
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| 15:00.41 | jelly | so while a single file on its own might be unfragmented, a directory with a thousand files will be all over the place |
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| 15:01.15 | nanare3rww | jelly: is there a better file system where such things don't happen? |
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| 15:02.19 | jelly | nanare3rww: one that magically predicts your usage patterns and puts oft' used files near each other? |
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| 15:02.23 | indes | most systems (journaled) will suffer from fragmentation. :p |
| 15:02.37 | indes | a system that doesn't would be inefficient (more so) |
| 15:02.48 | jelly | nanare3rww: I do not know of one for Linux. |
| 15:02.55 | nanare3rww | jelly: one that have a defrag tool |
| 15:03.24 | indes | xfs has a defrag tool |
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| 15:03.53 | jelly | indes: a per-subtree defrag tool? |
| 15:04.00 | nanare3rww | can xfs be booted? |
| 15:04.07 | jelly | it can. |
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| 15:04.32 | indes | apparently it can do single file. |
| 15:04.33 | indes | (xfs_fsr) |
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| 15:08.44 | nanare3rww | say if I dd the whole disk, /dev/sda, will i be able to mount as file /dev/sda1? |
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| 15:10.00 | Nik05 | what do you mean nanare3rww ? |
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| 15:10.33 | jelly | nanare3rww: yes, with some caveats (you'll have to use a loopback device and kpartx to create per-partition devices to mount) |
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| 15:10.59 | nanare3rww | jelly: I know loop |
| 15:11.06 | trewas | by the way there is e4defrag for ext4, comes with e2fsprogs so I guess it is quite safe |
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| 15:11.13 | nanare3rww | jelly: kpartx? |
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| 15:13.12 | Walex | trewas: even if a 'defrag' program were absolutely safe, defragging tends to substantially increase the load, exercising both the hardware, the firmware and the drivers, and thus potentially triggering issues. |
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| 15:13.59 | toni_ | Hi! How can I assign a multi-key shortcut to a menu entry of a GTK3 app? |
| 15:14.01 | Walex | trewas: the best/safest/fastest defrag is always dump/reformat/reload. |
| 15:14.19 | nanare3rww | Walex: which in my case will take 9 hours |
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| 15:15.34 | nanare3rww | Walex: and require extra space |
| 15:15.34 | Walex | nanare3rww: then you have a big problem indeed: your defrag will push hard the load on your filetree and underlying storage for a very long time. |
| 15:15.59 | Walex | nanare3rww: do you feel lucky? :-) |
| 15:16.16 | nanare3rww | Walex: if there was a defrag, then the situation wouldn't have got so bad, and each defrag would have taken less time |
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| 15:24.09 | JordiGH | Does mysqld by default only listen on localhost? Because that's what I want. |
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| 15:25.01 | koollman | JordiGH: I'm not sure what the default package does. either localhost only, or local unix socket only (you probably want the latter one if there's no remote access) |
| 15:25.44 | OpenTokix | iirc it is unix socket only |
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| 15:27.08 | Walex | nanare3rww: this is longer topic than just defrag; if the storage stack you are dealing with has those problems, it was setup too ambitiously. |
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| 15:27.53 | JordiGH | That's good enough for me. I just want to make sure that by default I'm not opening mysql to listen to everyone. |
| 15:27.58 | JordiGH | Because that would be crazy, right? |
| 15:28.49 | nanare3rww | Walex: to ambitionsly for that lousy storage stack. right. |
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| 15:45.25 | eXpl0it3r | I've a user Alice who has a web directory at /home/Alice/www/, but since there are multiple people working on the website, but not everyone need access to the actual home directory, I'd just like to setup things up, so that Bob can use SFTP to just access the directory /home/Alice/www/. He should not be able to access /home/Alice or /home/Bob. I know one can achieve something like this with chroot, but then (afaik), I'd have to make the www d |
| 15:45.25 | eXpl0it3r | irectory belong to root, which is not what I want either. Any suggestions? |
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| 15:46.38 | bezaban | eXpl0it3r: create the directory under /var/www, use group permissions and symlink if you absolutely need /home/alice/www |
| 15:47.02 | rfree | can I install user-locally debian application svn, on squeeze? |
| 15:47.13 | bezaban | then bob can have /var/www/project to /home/bob/www too |
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| 15:48.35 | eXpl0it3r | bezaban: Yeah I thought, I might want to put it outside a home directory. Thanks! :D |
| 15:48.47 | bezaban | you need read permissions all the way up (which is default for home directories btw) to be able to see a folder in someone's home. |
| 15:49.12 | bezaban | eXpl0it3r: np. I think that's the most logical solution for shared content |
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| 15:49.34 | DammitJim | what time server pool do you guys recommend I use for my environment in Florida, US? |
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| 15:51.32 | sweb | for access DNS server (bind9) which rule i must allow using ufw ? |
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| 15:52.16 | jhutchins | DammitJim: pool.ntp.org |
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| 15:53.08 | jhutchins | DammitJim: http://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Servers/WebHome |
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| 15:53.47 | DammitJim | thanks |
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| 15:53.56 | DammitJim | just double checking my work |
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| 15:56.17 | ytrezq | Hello how I may use ldap with bind in testing? |
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| 15:58.40 | ytrezq | Hello, How I may convert a large scale named.conf to ldap. (I saw a script some day agos..) |
| 15:59.53 | nonconvergent | Got CUPS setup via the SystemPrinting article but don't see any network printers in localhost:631 |
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| 16:01.11 | nonconvergent | Dunno what to try. |
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| 16:02.10 | nonconvergent | It's a network printer in the office, not hooked up to any individual machine. |
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| 16:13.26 | ytrezq | What is the package to get dns backend with bind |
| 16:13.27 | ytrezq | ? |
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| 16:18.29 | cm13g09 | ytrezq: how do you mean? |
| 16:18.40 | cm13g09 | BIND is a DNS server |
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| 16:19.02 | Danielss89 | hi |
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| 16:20.19 | Danielss89 | if i want to run: sed -i 's/'host'=>'',/'host'=>'somethingNew',/g' someFile |
| 16:20.36 | Danielss89 | i need to escape the ' right? |
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| 16:20.51 | Danielss89 | is that done with just a backslash \ ? |
| 16:21.54 | _FBi | is there a way to limit a users monthly bandwidth |
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| 16:24.03 | jelly | Danielss89: not really, you have to exit the single quote, then escape your ', then open the single quote back. Use a double quote around the sed program, instead, if you can: sed -i "s/'host'=>'',/'host'=>'somethingNew',/g" someFile |
| 16:24.47 | jelly | replacing every ' with '\'' becomes unreadable fact |
| 16:24.51 | jelly | fast* |
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| 16:25.27 | ytrezq | cm13g09: Sorry I'm tired |
| 16:25.28 | jhutchins | Danielss89: There is also #bash, where they will explain why your entire approach is wrong. |
| 16:25.35 | ytrezq | I wanted to mean |
| 16:25.46 | ytrezq | What is the package to get ldap backend with bind? |
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| 16:30.08 | cm13g09 | ytrezq: ah, ok, sorry, I can't help you there |
| 16:31.19 | jelly | jhutchins: heh |
| 16:31.26 | thims | ytrezq: Do you mean to allow certain LDAP users to have access to specific DNS servers? |
| 16:31.55 | jelly | thims: he wants to put all the zone data, and perhaps the configuration, into ldap, it seems |
| 16:32.43 | ytrezq | thims: no I mean using ldap database to store dns zone data instead of the bind conf files... |
| 16:33.07 | thims | jelly: Ah. |
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| 16:35.07 | ytrezq | because a +200 mb of conf files take Gb of ram. wheras a database would take > 100MB |
| 16:36.19 | jelly | if you have 200MB of zone files and are still using BIND, the terrorists have already won |
| 16:36.22 | jelly | hides |
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| 16:36.54 | jelly | (1GB of RAM isn't that much) |
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| 16:39.28 | jhutchins | ytrezq: Lots of google hits on that. |
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| 16:40.47 | ytrezq | I'm not asking how... I want the name of the packages for the ldap packages... (debian name) |
| 16:41.00 | ytrezq | I didn't find this on google. |
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| 16:42.51 | jhutchins | ytrezq: There isn't a pre-configured package, you need to set it up manually, possibly patching bind. |
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| 16:46.34 | x00e | Hei guys. Trying to set up a Wifi USB dongle (chipset rt2800) which should work with rt2800usb module. But then I load it, nothing happens. Any one here has any experience with this ? |
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| 16:49.54 | thedudez0r | all hail wget |
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| 16:50.44 | sdfsd | HI |
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| 16:51.12 | sdfsd | Hello,can someone tell me please how can I install the 3.6.6 version of LibreOffice using apt-get please? |
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| 16:53.24 | jelly | ,v libreoffice |
| 16:53.25 | judd | Package: libreoffice on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1:3.5.4+dfsg-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1:4.1.4-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:4.1.4-2; sid: 1:4.1.4-2+b1 |
| 16:53.43 | jelly | sdfsd: that version doesn't seem to be available in Debian |
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| 16:55.04 | sdfsd | jelly, do you know if is possible to install a previous version than 4.0 using apt-get |
| 16:55.06 | sdfsd | ? |
| 16:55.42 | jhutchins | sdfsd: That should be the default on stable. |
| 16:56.33 | jelly | sdfsd: as you can see, there's 3.5.4 in Debian 7 |
| 16:56.53 | sdfsd | thank you very much jhulst and jelly |
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| 16:58.53 | ytrezq | jhutchins: Many server have their packages... Powerdns have it's backend... I don't belive this the case of bind |
| 17:00.39 | ytrezq | jhutchins: For old version of debian they were dlz-ldap-enum... |
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| 17:21.35 | darklight_ | the jessie installed doesn't seem to find my wireless card, and I don't mean it doesn't have the firmware, it literally skips it as if it isn't there and doesn't ask if I want to load the firmware from another source |
| 17:21.42 | darklight_ | s/installed/installer |
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| 17:22.41 | jhutchins | darklight_: What's the pciid? |
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| 17:24.11 | liviud | hey |
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| 17:24.33 | liviud | how can i bypass dpkg-buildpackage's behaviour when it automatically generated debian/conffiles with all the files to be placed in /etc ? |
| 17:24.36 | darklight_ | jhutchins, 03:00.0 it's an intel ultimate n wifi link 5300 |
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| 17:26.01 | jhutchins | darklight_: What's the pciid? lspci -nn |
| 17:26.15 | ffrank | hi. i use pbuilder like this: pbuilder --build --basetgz /var/cache/pbuilder/base-wheezy-amd64.tgz ../wheezy/stunnel4_4.53-1.1mpexnet1.dsc --binary-arch. but it still does generate .dsc, .debian.tar.gz and .orig.tar.gz files in the results. I was under the impression that --binary-arch would emit only the .deb package. is that wrong? |
| 17:26.32 | jhutchins | darklight_: Sorry, PCIID is the eight character ID in square brackets: [xxxx:xxxx] |
| 17:27.04 | darklight_ | jhutchins, right kinda copied the first thing I saw, 8086:4236 |
| 17:27.25 | jhutchins | ,pciid 8086:4236 |
| 17:27.26 | judd | [8086:4236] is 'Ultimate N WiFi Link 5300' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'iwlwifi', 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:4236 http://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
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| 17:28.14 | darklight_ | jhutchins, I should point out that it then works just fine, detected and working (post installation after adding the firmware), but the installer doesn't seem to care for it |
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| 17:35.41 | ffrank | guess i'm hitting this: https://lists.debian.org/debian-science/2009/05/msg00006.html |
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| 17:36.39 | Michael5 | Is there anything like Windows Movie Maker? I have a video, and I want to add credits-like things to it at the start, like show text saying "MADE BY" ...etc, I tried Pitvi but there's no option like that to it. Anything else, please? |
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| 17:44.23 | petn-randall | Michael5: kenlive worked the last time I tried it. It's been quite a while, though. |
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| 17:48.34 | pythonsnake | heya |
| 17:48.47 | pythonsnake | anyone here got experience with installign nginx in ~? |
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| 17:48.57 | pythonsnake | or withotut root in general |
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| 17:49.27 | nonp | hi |
| 17:50.03 | nonp | I want to use tor via vidalia only .. i don't want the daemon to start when we install tor .. what 2 do ? |
| 17:51.00 | nonp | I want to use tor via vidalia only .. i don't want the daemon to start when we install tor .. what 2 do ? Anyone know how to do that ? |
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| 17:54.28 | nonp | I want to use tor via vidalia only .. i don't want the daemon to start when we install tor .. what 2 do ? Anyone know how to do that ? |
| 17:55.35 | petn-randall | nonp: We read you the first time, please don't spam. |
| 17:55.35 | nonp | thedudez0r: I want to use tor via vidalia only .. i don't want the daemon to start when we install tor .. what 2 do ? |
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| 17:57.15 | nonp | petn-randall: What 2 do ? |
| 17:57.22 | `l1t3p1p3` | nonp just kill it from start up and just use vidalia as the gui, that's all it is anyway |
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| 17:58.12 | petn-randall | nonp: Wait until someone answers. If the channel is slow it can be an hour before someone answers. Patience is a virtue. |
| 17:58.12 | nonp | `l1t3p1p3`: yep hw do to it ? I switched from arch systemctl don't work here :[ |
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| 17:58.32 | `l1t3p1p3` | ah ok gimme sec grabben coffee for my brain cell |
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| 18:01.45 | `l1t3p1p3` | http://ask.debian.net/questions/how-to-prevent-daemons-from-starting-at-installation-time |
| 18:01.56 | thedudez0r | nonp, tor is run as a service, you need to look for the file that starts the tor service and remove/comment it. You can also stop it manually by issuing 'service tor stop' as root |
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| 18:02.26 | nonp | `l1t3p1p3`: can I get some coffee too :] |
| 18:02.50 | thedudez0r | 'you need to look for the file' hinting at you investigating a little bit about services and how they're started automatically |
| 18:02.50 | nonp | thedudez0r: systemctl's ver of debian is ? |
| 18:03.03 | `l1t3p1p3` | maybe this also not sure been a while, on vpn now, wasn't happy with tor etc. plus with vpn get multiple servers all over the world ---> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-controlling-access-to-linux-services.html |
| 18:03.25 | oskie | I want to automate apt-get upgrade on some systems, and I know debconf can be used. But how do I handle situations when apt asks if files in /etc/ should be overwritten? Is there a way to prevent those prompts? |
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| 18:04.28 | nonp | `l1t3p1p3`: can you just tell me the command to do it please ? I am in hurry :] I would login and then talk mroe |
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| 18:09.34 | petn-randall | oskie: As you might have guessed, that is already implemented. Look for 'unattended-upgrades'. debconf will not prompt if there's no TTY attached that can give input, and will pick the default in that case. Which might not be what you want. |
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| 18:10.22 | julius_ | hi |
| 18:10.28 | petn-randall | nonp: We rather like to teach people to fish, so they don't come again the next day when they're hungry ... |
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| 18:12.54 | thedudez0r | nonp, run 'insserv -r tor' as root |
| 18:12.54 | nonp | while using vidalia it says tor has closed unexpectedly |
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| 18:14.17 | oskie | petn-randall: but it seems conffile-specific changes are not handled through debconf - at least not according to this: https://lists.debian.org/debian-dpkg/2011/06/msg00002.html |
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| 18:14.34 | nonp | thedudez0r: i did that already |
| 18:14.43 | thedudez0r | that will disable tor being initialized by init at every boot. You can then start it manually by either running the /etc/init.d/tor script from the terminal, or simply issuing service tor start |
| 18:14.43 | nonp | thedudez0r: now vidalia says tor has quit unexpectedly |
| 18:15.24 | thedudez0r | I'll let you figure that one out |
| 18:15.27 | oskie | petn-randall: but unattended-upgrades seems to handle it - i will check it out. thanks! |
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| 18:22.25 | knarz0r | hi |
| 18:23.14 | knarz0r | one question: imagine a dir /mnt/data with owner root and group www-data. php runs as fcgi as user Uweb. user Uweb is added to the www-data group. any ideas why i can't check within this path with php function: file_exists($fullpathandfile)? |
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| 18:24.20 | oskie | knarz0r: did you restart the web server? |
| 18:24.26 | knarz0r | yes |
| 18:24.54 | oskie | does Uweb have x access to all directory components up to and including /mnt/data ? |
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| 18:26.06 | knarz0r | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Apr 29 2013 mnt |
| 18:26.11 | knarz0r | drwxrwxrwx 5 www-data www-data 4096 Okt 4 17:31 filespace |
| 18:26.20 | knarz0r | drwxrwx--- 500 root www-data 12288 Jan 17 14:00 media |
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| 18:26.42 | knarz0r | where /mnt/filespace/media is the real path in my example :p |
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| 18:27.47 | oskie | ok, looks correct then, perhaps you should double check effective user/group of the php process |
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| 18:28.34 | Zer000 | I need some help please: I'm trying to run the systemd unit user@zero.service to start a local systemd for my user. However this fails with http://dpaste.com/1572459/ |
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| 18:34.01 | conroe | anyone using aufs/tmpfs to run their systems "read-only"? |
| 18:34.10 | knarz0r | oskie: thank you. I will try further ;) |
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| 18:44.52 | aarcane | hi debian peoples, I have an odd question that may be suited more for debian-devel, I don't know.. |
| 18:45.35 | aarcane | I'm building packages from source using dpkg-buildpackages, and I want to make sure they get signed as I build them, rather than dpkg-sig ing them later. |
| 18:45.55 | aarcane | But my key has a passphrase, and dpkg-buildpackage doesn't ever prompt for password, but just silently fails. |
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| 18:47.29 | jelly-home | judd: popcon systemd |
| 18:47.30 | judd | Popcon data for systemd: inst: 11737, vote: 9174, old: 291, recent: 2270, nofiles: 2 |
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| 18:47.36 | jelly-home | judd: popcon upstart |
| 18:47.37 | judd | Popcon data for upstart: inst: 76, vote: 66, old: 4, recent: 5, nofiles: 1 |
| 18:47.49 | jelly-home | whistles innocently |
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| 18:49.05 | jelly-home | aarcane: hm, do you have some kind of gpg-agent running? |
| 18:49.21 | aarcane | jelly-home, yes, but I can't figure out how to do a priming read into it. |
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| 18:49.47 | jelly-home | not sure whether signing takes place within fakeroot or not |
| 18:51.37 | aarcane | jelly-home, it at least attempts to sign, but it never prompts for a password. |
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| 18:53.13 | jelly-home | I suspect the relevant environment isn't passed through |
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| 18:53.50 | LU324 | so, i don't know if this is the right place to ask, but when i try to print, all of the lights on the printer (hp deskjet d4260) start flashing, and cups says "unable to send data to printer" |
| 18:54.04 | LU324 | it used to work in a previous installation, so any idea what's wrong? |
| 18:54.23 | DanteLA | Hi. Where do I find about what ciphers are used with 'encrypted LVM' Debian wheezy installer option? |
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| 18:57.10 | reactormonk | how do I fix http://pastebin.com/9SWHcuKZ ? |
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| 19:02.45 | jelly-home | reactormonk: can you show the full command line used, and the full output? |
| 19:03.00 | jelly-home | dpkg: tell reactormonk about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 19:03.22 | jelly-home | !paste |
| 19:03.22 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 19:03.38 | jelly-home | (pastebin.com has ads) |
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| 19:04.35 | reactormonk | jelly-home, apt-get upgrade |
| 19:04.45 | reactormonk | jelly-home, adblock. |
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| 19:05.19 | beepie | hi |
| 19:05.30 | beepie | just curious anyone using zfs? |
| 19:06.00 | mjt | ofcourse not! why it ever exists?? |
| 19:06.00 | reactormonk | http://pastie.org/8672879 |
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| 19:06.21 | reactormonk | btrfs is kinda the next duke nukem |
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| 19:07.49 | jelly-home | reactormonk: hm, did you get the message from dpkg bot in private? Please add "apt-cache policy fail2ban python-pkg-resources python:any libc6" and "apt-cache policy" output. |
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| 19:09.08 | Jn_Kell | Hi all, is there a way to "save" an xrdp session when logging off, just like screen/tmux? |
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| 19:09.59 | shawnbon206 | hey guys i am attepting to generate a starting point for an xorg.conf by going into single user mode and doing Xorg :0 -configure. its erroring saying there are too many displays compared to devices |
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| 19:10.22 | reactormonk | kk |
| 19:11.13 | shawnbon206 | it put one in /root/xorg.conf.new , am i just supposed to edit that one? or should i start a new one from a blank file? |
| 19:11.21 | DammitJim | what command can help me check that my machine is using a time from a time server? |
| 19:11.27 | mjt | shawnbon206: why are you trying to create xorg.conf? |
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| 19:12.34 | wols | DammitJim: is ntpd running? |
| 19:12.41 | DammitJim | yes |
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| 19:12.47 | DammitJim | I just edited ntp.conf |
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| 19:12.53 | DammitJim | and I want to know if my changes are working |
| 19:12.58 | Mercuryo | Hi, everybody. |
| 19:13.27 | Mercuryo | Folks, I need some help. |
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| 19:14.47 | shawnbon206 | i want to enable Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" and Option "EXAVSync" "yes" to see if it will eliminate screen tearing from my video watching |
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| 19:15.01 | Mercuryo | About Debian, of course. |
| 19:15.03 | shawnbon206 | mjt^ |
| 19:15.13 | reactormonk | Jn_Kell, http://pastie.org/8672907 |
| 19:15.16 | Mercuryo | Sorry. |
| 19:15.23 | jelly-home | reactormonk: your situation was likely inconsistent even before that apt-get upgrade |
| 19:15.30 | reactormonk | jelly-home, possible |
| 19:15.52 | reactormonk | oops. |
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| 19:16.00 | jelly-home | reactormonk: did you change your sources.list recently? |
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| 19:16.51 | centrx | dpkg: ask |
| 19:16.52 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 19:17.26 | reactormonk | jelly-home, I think I might have deleted the weechat repository somewhere in the past. |
| 19:17.40 | Mercuryo | Somebody could say me from where I can get the 10 dvd's of Debian? |
| 19:18.05 | reactormonk | Mercuryo, an USB stick is not an option? |
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| 19:19.13 | jelly-home | reactormonk: well. At this point, I guess you could "dpkg --remove fail2ban" temporarily, then "apt-get -f install" and report the results. |
| 19:19.43 | jelly-home | reactormonk: you really should avoid sid unless you're well versed in fixing things with dpkg and apt. |
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| 19:20.44 | reactormonk | jelly-home, I assume that's what you get for asking some debian enthusiast which version to use :-) |
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| 19:23.17 | jhutchins | This is strange. I'm upgradeing an old server from lenny to squeeze, and it upgraded the packages like apache2-mpm-prefork, but did not upgrade apache2. |
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| 19:24.24 | reactormonk | jelly-home, http://pastie.org/8672935 :-( |
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| 19:27.15 | jelly-home | reactormonk: perhaps they were too enthusiastic :-) |
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| 19:29.54 | reactormonk | jelly-home, maybe. I'm currently nuking and reinstalling the packages |
| 19:29.58 | jelly-home | reactormonk: alright. I'm not sure why dpkg feels python:any (>= 2.7) is not installed. |
| 19:30.09 | jelly-home | !debian-next |
| 19:30.09 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
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| 19:31.11 | jelly-home | reactormonk: that channel on that there network might provide more help, and is in theory the correct place to ask questions about sid installations |
| 19:31.18 | centrx | Mercuryo, Is there a reason you are repeatedly quitting and re-entering the channel? |
| 19:31.46 | jelly-home | reactormonk: which version of dpkg is installed? dpkg -l dpkg|tail -n 1 |
| 19:32.12 | reactormonk | jelly-home, nope, nuking didn't help |
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| 19:32.59 | reactormonk | 1.17.6 |
| 19:33.24 | jelly-home | that's current |
| 19:33.36 | shawnbon206 | it put one in /root/xorg.conf.new , am i just supposed to edit that one? or should i start a new one from a blank file? |
| 19:33.45 | shawnbon206 | hey guys i am attepting to generate a starting point for an xorg.conf by going into single user mode and doing Xorg :0 -configure. its erroring saying there are too many displays compared to devices |
| 19:33.58 | shawnbon206 | i want to enable Option "AccelMethod" "EXA" and Option "EXAVSync" "yes" to see if it will eliminate screen tearing from my video watching |
| 19:35.57 | jelly-home | reactormonk: just for fun, can you do a "apt-get --reinstall install python" |
| 19:36.11 | jelly-home | that probably won't work |
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| 19:37.03 | reactormonk | shawnbon206, [1745472.361993] EXT3-fs error (device sda1): ext3_free_blocks: Freeing blocks not in datazone - block = 1040851508, count = 1 |
| 19:37.05 | reactormonk | ehh |
| 19:37.07 | reactormonk | @ jelly-home |
| 19:37.11 | reactormonk | fuck. |
| 19:37.29 | jelly-home | yeah... that's a whole other pair of shoes |
| 19:37.45 | jelly-home | reboot, fsck, we'll be here |
| 19:37.56 | jelly-home | well, _someone_ will be |
| 19:38.04 | reactormonk | why the reboot? |
| 19:38.50 | jelly-home | reactormonk: how else are you going to fsck |
| 19:39.18 | jelly-home | the file system needs to be unmounted or at least mounted read-only |
| 19:39.41 | reactormonk | jelly-home, on errors remount-ro |
| 19:40.44 | jelly-home | reactormonk: you still need to reboot right after the fsck in that case |
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| 19:40.49 | reactormonk | yup |
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| 19:41.41 | jelly-home | I just don't like the kernel having a wrong picture of what's on disk, so I let it reboot first, fsck automatically and reboot again if it needs to |
| 19:42.05 | reactormonk | ok |
| 19:42.17 | reactormonk | well cya then, that's where the IRC client is running o/ |
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| 19:48.22 | jelly-home | ... and they never heard of him again |
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| 19:53.29 | arthurfiggis | jelly-home: at least he'll know where to go if he's still having problems :) i have to say, one of the most pleasant parts of running debian (apart from the fact that it works properly) is the help that i've gotten here since i've started running it |
| 19:53.39 | ParkerR | Did debian change the way it handles networking? The config I have had for forever no longer works. http://paste.debian.net/78689 |
| 19:54.11 | ParkerR | I'm on sid |
| 19:54.15 | centrx | ParkerR, What did you do before it stopped working? |
| 19:54.16 | centrx | Oh |
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| 19:54.45 | ParkerR | centrx, fresh setup. This config has served me well for quite a while |
| 19:54.46 | centrx | ParkerR, Check the bug reports for probably ifupdown |
| 19:55.18 | centrx | ParkerR, If it is a new install, the necessary config may very well be different |
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| 19:56.44 | ParkerR | Ok, thanks. I'll see if I can find anything. |
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| 19:58.14 | rwp | ParkerR, Your paste shows me that you are missing "allow-hotplug wlan0" from the file. |
| 19:58.45 | ParkerR | rwp, Which file? |
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| 19:59.06 | rwp | ParkerR, /etc/network/interfaces needs either "auto" or "allow-hotplug". |
| 19:59.09 | ParkerR | From what I gathered it was the networking service not looking at it's own config |
| 19:59.47 | ParkerR | Aha thank you |
| 19:59.49 | smyers | If there's no auto or allow-hotplug line, networking will do nothing with that interface until explicitly asked to, via ifup/ifdown |
| 19:59.55 | ParkerR | I knew it was probably something silly |
| 19:59.56 | rwp | ParkerR, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basic_syntax_of_etc_network_interfaces |
| 20:00.17 | ParkerR | Yeah working now, thanks. |
| 20:00.44 | rwp | "auto" causes "service networking restart" (aka /etc/init.d/networking) to work. |
| 20:01.08 | rwp | "allow-hotplug" causes it to generally work. Using the event driven interface. |
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| 20:01.42 | rwp | "auto" is the old way. "allow-hotplug" is the new way. But "allow-hotplug" doesn't enable "service networking restart" which I know you said you tried. |
| 20:02.42 | ParkerR | rwp, Yeah it was copy paste fail from my config backup. Didnt highlight the auto wlan0 |
| 20:02.49 | ParkerR | Thanks again |
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| 20:03.06 | sweb | how can i know which partion is primary or logical |
| 20:03.07 | sweb | ? |
| 20:03.46 | ParkerR | I know cfdisk lists if the partition is primary or logical |
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| 20:07.14 | glycol | hi people, any ideas why the oom killer is not working/disabled on kernel 3.11-0.bpo.2 on wheezy? |
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| 20:15.18 | totoa | If I download the stable ISO now, will I be able to keep it up-to-date for the next few years with apt-get update / upgrade / dist-upgrade? |
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| 20:16.58 | Linuxman255 | Yes |
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| 20:17.39 | totoa | Thank you |
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| 20:18.06 | Linuxman255 | You will want to update than upgrade. |
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| 20:19.31 | jhutchins | squeeze sources-list |
| 20:19.36 | jhutchins | !squeeze sources-list |
| 20:19.44 | jhutchins | !squeeze sources.list |
| 20:19.44 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <squeeze/updates> <squeeze-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
| 20:19.54 | jhutchins | Is that current? I'm getting several 302s |
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| 20:20.55 | Linuxman255 | Have you updated? |
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| 20:23.31 | halt | Hi All, I'm having a dependencies, issue on wheezy, on the useal way i could not resolve it, could someone give me a hint how to start with it ? http://paste.debian.net/78692/ |
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| 20:25.47 | Linuxman255 | Your dependency version is mismatched |
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| 20:25.56 | jhutchins | How do I download a deb from squeeze? |
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| 20:26.12 | ruif13 | hello please how can i remove that apps from my screen http://snag.gy/ye9mQ.jpg on top left screen of my kde? |
| 20:26.14 | jhutchins | ... outside of the apt system? |
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| 20:26.51 | Linuxman255 | You will have to reconstruct the URL. |
| 20:27.03 | jhutchins | Nevermind, didn't scroll down the page far en0ough. |
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| 20:28.14 | Linuxman255 | The 'download' apt command will work better. |
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| 20:28.40 | Linuxman255 | @ruif13 Remove or uninstall? |
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| 20:29.13 | Linuxman255 | nvm, restart KDE |
| 20:29.23 | ruif13 | they appears on top |
| 20:29.25 | ruif13 | left |
| 20:29.36 | ruif13 | always :S |
| 20:29.38 | ruif13 | dono why |
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| 20:29.52 | Linuxman255 | No bar at all? |
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| 20:30.17 | ruif13 | i have it on bar |
| 20:30.27 | Linuxman255 | Top left is at (0,0) |
| 20:30.31 | ruif13 | but when i upgrade to jessie they appears on top left :S |
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| 20:30.38 | SmashingX | Hi, I configured samba to access my files from a windows machine, but when I want to connect it says that the server is unavailable :( |
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| 20:34.07 | halt | Linuxman255: Correct me if I'm wrong but is in't it the 5.14.2-21+deb7u1 and 5.14.2-21 should be good, and if not, then it's a bug in the dependency ( IMHO ) |
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| 20:35.01 | Linuxman255 | The +deb7u1 is throwing off the matcher |
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| 20:41.52 | halt | Linuxman255: I see, well, then I guees I will try to remove that and reinstall it |
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| 20:42.33 | Linuxman255 | Ok, be in mind that all perl scripts will fail until perl is reinstalled |
| 20:42.51 | halt | Linuxman255: and also the apache .. :S |
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| 20:43.43 | kingsley | How do you automatically check if remote SSL certificates have changed or will soon expire? |
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| 20:45.05 | halt | kingsley: setup monitoring on it, there are good plugins for munin/nagios, or you can have an triggert in zabbix as well easyly |
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| 20:47.26 | kingsley | halt: I'll check them out. |
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| 20:48.31 | halt | kingsley: you can ovbiusly also script something smart, but if you have any monitoring in place that's make things easy |
| 20:50.04 | halt | Linuxman255: install it again with -t wheezy resloved it, the backport caused the trouble :S |
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| 20:50.50 | kingsley | halt: For what it's worth, a package named "ssl-cert-check" evidently sends email alerts when an SSL certificate is about to expire. However, I'm unaware of it alerting the user to changed certificates. |
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| 21:03.40 | beepie | Jn_Kell, there may be a disconnect option (if not then the Win administrators disabled it.. also if you decide to just "kill" the xrdp client itself and the session does not resume later then the Administrator again "Winbloze" has resuming disabled) |
| 21:04.33 | beepie | Jn_Kell, (the disconnect option i spoke of would be from the Win startmenu) |
| 21:04.46 | beepie | uses x2go for remote Linux |
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| 21:05.26 | shawnbon206 | pingpong |
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| 21:10.59 | erickr | I used some sort of command line tool a few years ago which could access information regarding open windows/programs in gnome(perhaps others as well), but I can not remember what it was called, and cant find my script either. Anyone have a faint idea what I could mean? :) |
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| 21:12.05 | shawnbon206 | from the radeon man page, anyone have any idea what this is?: Option "EnablePageFlip" "boolean" |
| 21:12.07 | shawnbon206 | Enable DRI2 page flipping. The default is on. Pageflipping is supported on all radeon hardware. |
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| 21:12.24 | shawnbon206 | google search came up with nothing |
| 21:12.27 | quique | where can I lookup info on a device i get from lspci -nn? |
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| 21:12.51 | ChibaPet | quique: Have you tried DuckDuckGo or Google? |
| 21:13.20 | quique | ChibaPet: yes, I thought there was a db or something that debian had? |
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| 21:14.41 | ChibaPet | quique: There could be, but I'm unaware of one. It's conceivable there's a useful list embedded in kernel source. (There used to be such a thing in NetBSD, not that that implies that there *must* be one in Linux.) |
| 21:15.31 | shawnbon206 | thats the wiki |
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| 21:15.59 | xingu | erickr: xwininfo? :) |
| 21:16.03 | quique | ChibaPet: pcimap no longer exists |
| 21:16.39 | quique | ChibaPet: i assume that is what you're referring to |
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| 21:22.13 | jibrani | Hi, I'm trying to install Debian on a Lemote Yeeloong. I'm following the instructions at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianYeeloong/HowTo/Install . However, I've got to a screen in the installer which says, "Installation step failed ... The failing step is: Download installer components" |
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| 21:22.17 | jibrani | My network config seems to be correct, as are the filesystem on the USB stick, and the SHA256 checksums of the three files on the USB stick, and I've tried several mirrors. |
| 21:22.22 | jibrani | Any idea what to try next? |
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| 21:23.47 | erickr | xingu: ah, will try |
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| 21:29.26 | erickr | xingu: xwininfo + wmctrl seems to be the thing.. |
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| 21:30.06 | thedudez0r_ | I'm paying 5000$ per hour, in cash, to a competent system administrator, you can work from home. if interest pm me |
| 21:30.15 | thedudez0r_ | I'm the real deal, you can ask abrotman |
| 21:30.32 | erickr | hehe, whats the catch=? |
| 21:31.04 | thedudez0r_ | no catch, just profit |
| 21:31.04 | thedudez0r_ | are you interest? |
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| 21:31.24 | erickr | what skills do you need? |
| 21:31.26 | centrx | $5000/hour competent, or just plain competent? |
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| 21:31.44 | erickr | If it includes sharepoint I'll pass.. |
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| 21:35.13 | worstadmin | apt-get is asking me to install packages that are already installed - is there a reason for this? It doesnt show them as "to be upgraded" simply as "to be installed" even though dpkg -s shows them as installed now. Any help is appreciated |
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| 21:36.55 | jordanm | worstadmin: are they installed but not configured? |
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| 21:38.00 | quique | if i download the testing dvd that's jessie right? |
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| 21:38.25 | da_police | hi guys, how to recover a reiserfs file remotely? i deleted a file by mistaken.. how to recover it? |
| 21:38.35 | centrx | Quimby, Testing is Jessie now yes |
| 21:38.59 | da_police | is that possible to do reiserfsck without umount the partition? |
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| 21:40.27 | jhutchins | da_police: Chances of recovering a deleted file if you fsck are probably not good. Generally, you want to change the filesystem as little as possible. |
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| 21:41.05 | jhutchins | da_police: You can _check_ a filesystem while it's mounted safely, but with ext at least you should not try to repair it if it's mounted writable. |
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| 21:41.22 | jhutchins | da_police: I don't know what the rules are for reiserfs. |
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| 21:42.59 | da_police | jhutchins: thats the main problem actually, the file was a static mysql database, eventho its read only, but the file located in /var/lib/mysql.. its on "/var" |
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| 21:43.04 | da_police | cries |
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| 21:45.20 | jhutchins | da_police: Shutdown -Fr now does fsck on reboot before it's mounted rw. |
| 21:45.33 | jhutchins | da_police: Again, that's not recovery. |
| 21:46.14 | xingu | da_police: are there any processes running that would have had the file open? |
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| 21:46.58 | jhutchins | da_police: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/ReiserFS_File_Undelete_HOWTO |
| 21:47.12 | jhutchins | da_police: You would need to boot to a live CD or similar. |
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| 21:47.34 | FungiFox | think its already the UBCD |
| 21:47.39 | FungiFox | if i remember right |
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| 22:01.27 | lowenea | How do I inspect encoding quality of an ogg file? Some files are bad encoded even if they have high bitrate at youtube. |
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| 22:03.09 | bertrik | ogginfo perhaps? |
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| 22:03.20 | nabblet | hi, for wheezy-backports do i need a extra line or can i add "wheezy-backports" to the already existing line that contiains 'main contrib' and so on too? |
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| 22:03.49 | nabblet | i'm speaking about sources.list |
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| 22:04.01 | bertrik | lowenea: on ubuntu, ogginfo is in vorbis-tools |
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| 22:07.33 | centrx | nabblet, Needs to be its own line |
| 22:07.42 | nabblet | hm, adding backports in a single sources.list line works... but adding 'wheezy-backports' to an already existing line does not. why? |
| 22:08.01 | centrx | nabblet, sources.list accepts one item for the "distribution" column |
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| 22:08.38 | centrx | nabblet, Seems unlikely |
| 22:08.46 | da_police | xingu: no, there are no process that required the file |
| 22:08.49 | nabblet | centrx: but shouldn't contrib and non-free be on their own lines too? |
| 22:08.59 | da_police | jhutchins: does shutdown -Fr create lost+found dir? |
| 22:09.10 | centrx | nabblet, main, contrib, and non-free are sections of the distribution |
| 22:09.23 | nabblet | aaahhh, ok i get it i think |
| 22:09.54 | nabblet | so 1 item for distribution, e.g. wheezy wheezy-backports or sid or so... and then selections, like main, contribe etc. |
| 22:09.57 | nabblet | correcT? |
| 22:10.04 | centrx | deb [ options ] uri distribution [component1] [component2] [...] |
| 22:10.16 | centrx | yes |
| 22:11.01 | nabblet | centrx: ok, thank you for clarifying! |
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| 22:12.34 | nabblet | centrx: hm, i think you already helped me once - i had that looping-sound problem and abrotman advised me to go for the backport kernel (this is what i am doing now) |
| 22:13.40 | nabblet | centrx: hm, what package do i have to go for? linux-headers-* or linux-image-* ? |
| 22:14.08 | centrx | linux-image. linux-headers is generally for compiling other software |
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| 22:15.11 | val_erie | I need to configure network card in unysis server. I have latest firmware-testing-amd64 installed in hard disk, no GUI. I am using DHCP, so I have basic auto eth3 allow-hotplug eth3 iface eth3 inet dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces. When I restart network I get: failed to load bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw and 'network is down' |
| 22:15.21 | worstadmin | jordanm: They are installed and configured - php5-gd is an example package - its already in use |
| 22:15.47 | jordanm | !tell worstadmin about bat |
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| 22:17.54 | JRWR | im looking to use TPROXY with HAPROXY on a debian 7, but all the servers are local, can I due Dummy interfaces? |
| 22:18.28 | rgr | Ive got my java configured using update-alternatives to java 7. I'm pretty damn sure none of my user config files (.bash*, ,xsessionrc etc) are setting JAVA_HOME but its still set to Java 6 when I echo $JAVA_HOME. Any ideas as to where else debian might be setting this? |
| 22:18.40 | nabblet | how can i see what kernel i have currently installed? i can't decide what image to install from the backports |
| 22:19.48 | mtn | nabblet: uname -a |
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| 22:23.08 | nabblet | what's the difference between linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae and linux-image-3.12-0.bpo.1-rt-686-pae ? |
| 22:23.19 | nabblet | what does the 'rt' mean? |
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| 22:25.12 | mtn | nabblet: if you use synaptic it will give you descriptions and so will http://packages.debian.org |
| 22:25.18 | Tramp | nabblet: apt-cache show <package> to get more information about a package |
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| 22:26.33 | SterniLuigi | ciao |
| 22:26.36 | SterniLuigi | !list |
| 22:26.36 | dpkg | sterniluigi: È possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.3.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 22:27.19 | nabblet | mtn: Tramp thank you! |
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| 22:27.33 | mtn | nabblet: yw |
| 22:27.33 | Tramp | welcome |
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| 22:28.54 | jibrani | No-one? |
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| 22:29.51 | smyers | nabblet, the -rt flag means it's a real-time kernel. It's rare to need to use an rt kernel. Here's some info: https://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page |
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| 22:30.29 | grand_grunt | Hi. I have followed the debian wiki to install the legacy Ati driver and Xorg keeps using radeon. I have this in my latest Xorg log : http://paste.debian.net/78717/ |
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| 22:31.05 | grand_grunt | Should I create/retrieve this /etc/ati/amdpcsdb file ? |
| 22:31.20 | centrx | jibrani, No one what? You haven't said anything |
| 22:32.03 | centrx | grand_grunt, Are you using xorg.conf file? |
| 22:32.09 | jibrani | centrx: I did, but it was about an hour ago. Should I repeat my question? |
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| 22:32.18 | centrx | grand_grunt, Did you run X -configure |
| 22:32.43 | grand_grunt | centrx: No, I disabled 20-fglrx.conf |
| 22:32.43 | centrx | jibrani, Yes, I don't think anyone is taking this long to respond to a question from an hour ago. |
| 22:33.00 | mtn | heh |
| 22:33.02 | jibrani | centrx: Thanks. Coming up! |
| 22:33.06 | jibrani | Hi, I'm trying to install Debian on a Lemote Yeeloong. I'm following the instructions at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianYeeloong/HowTo/Install . However, I've got to a screen in the installer which says, "Installation step failed ... The failing step is: Download installer components" |
| 22:33.09 | jibrani | My network config seems to be correct, as are the filesystem on the USB stick, and the SHA256 checksums of the three files on the USB stick, and I've tried several mirrors. |
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| 22:33.14 | jibrani | Any idea what to try next? |
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| 22:33.35 | Jolt2bolt | testing branch? |
| 22:33.41 | Jolt2bolt | o wheez? |
| 22:33.43 | grand_grunt | centrx: I just do "X -configure" ? |
| 22:33.56 | centrx | grand_grunt, Yes, that is how to configure X |
| 22:34.05 | centrx | grand_grunt, Might be something with dpkg-reconfigure too |
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| 22:34.36 | jibrani | Jolt2bolt: Was your question for me? If so, Wheezy. |
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| 22:35.11 | shawnbon206 | ok so it turns out i need to go back to wheezy (on jessie right now) because the catylist drivers arent available for jessie, and i cant get videos to play smoothly |
| 22:35.19 | Jolt2bolt | I got a similar problem with an iso and i tried to download the iso from another mirror than debian has |
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| 22:35.48 | shawnbon206 | before i upgraded i had weechat backported, how can i downgrade entire system and keep that one backport? |
| 22:35.54 | rgr | havent see X -configure used in a while. |
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| 22:36.18 | centrx | jibrani, Can you ping any site? |
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| 22:36.54 | gnu-man | hi |
| 22:37.00 | jibrani | Jolt2bolt: I've tried several of the debian.org mirrors, the kernel.org mirror, the MIT mirror, and a number of others. No joy. |
| 22:37.18 | jibrani | centrx: How do I attempt to ping from within the installer? |
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| 22:37.38 | Jolt2bolt | is there some way to have the last version of libreoffice in wheezy without to use the mirros of jeassie? |
| 22:37.57 | centrx | jibrani, Switch to a different terminal with Ctrl-Alt-F2 I believe it is |
| 22:38.01 | gnu-man | So pbuilder supports hooks. The hooks start with a letter. So which letter corresponds to the start of pbuilder? Because currently the shell stuff is inside pbuilderrc which is bad practice. I want to put it into a hook. I heard that letter 'E' is the right one, but I wasn't able to find a _complete_ list, just some letters are mentioned. |
| 22:38.06 | centrx | Jolt2bolt, wheezy-backports ? |
| 22:38.08 | Jolt2bolt | did you tried the LXDE version, i tried that and the problem solved, jibrani |
| 22:38.13 | rgr | f1-f6 should be fine |
| 22:38.32 | rgr | but why bother. just open a terminal. |
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| 22:39.27 | lowenea | How do I convert a .m4a file to .ogg? |
| 22:39.50 | grand_grunt | centrx: I tried "X -configure" and it halts with "Number of created screens does not match nuùber of detected devices. . Configuration failed." |
| 22:40.11 | jibrani | centrx: OK, just tried that keyboard shortcut. It gave me a BusyBox terminal. I tried "ping google.com" and "ping debian.org" for 3 packets each and got 0% packet loss in both cases. So to answer your question, "Yes" :) |
| 22:40.27 | centrx | grand_grunt, Do you have a defined /etc/X11/xorg.conf ? |
| 22:40.35 | nkuttler | lowenea: can you play it? |
| 22:40.37 | rgr | grand_grunt: which driver are you trying to use. |
| 22:40.38 | Jolt2bolt | well centrx, I tried but the version that have is the 3.x version |
| 22:40.41 | nkuttler | lowenea: if yes, using what? |
| 22:40.53 | grand_grunt | centrx: I have "xorg.conf.d" directory in /etc/X11 |
| 22:41.01 | lowenea | nkuttler: Anything like oggconvert, ffmpeg |
| 22:41.02 | grand_grunt | rgr: I want the fglrx one |
| 22:41.20 | nkuttler | lowenea: which question does that answer? |
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| 22:41.36 | lowenea | nkuttler: 1) Yes 2) latter answer |
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| 22:41.53 | centrx | Jolt2bolt, wheezy-backports has Libreoffice 4.1.4 |
| 22:41.58 | rgr | have you read the wiki? |
| 22:42.06 | grand_grunt | rgr: Yes |
| 22:42.09 | nkuttler | lowenea: you can play your file with oggconvert? that sounds like it should answer your question? |
| 22:42.11 | lowenea | nkuttler: I can play the file in any media player. I need to convert my M4A file to OGG |
| 22:42.30 | Jolt2bolt | ok, i will try it again |
| 22:42.32 | rgr | there are specific instructions on how to create an xotg conf in the xorg.conf.d directory. |
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| 22:42.52 | rgr | now, I know how tricky and confusing it can be : dont worry: You wont be the first. |
| 22:43.19 | grand_grunt | rgr: I followed this : https://wiki.debian.org/fr/ATIProprietary#AMD_Catalyst_Legacy_13.1 |
| 22:43.28 | centrx | jibrani, I don't know, it may be something with the Yeelong installer not having the right URL to download from |
| 22:43.32 | lowenea | lowenea: No, I can play it with VLC |
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| 22:43.42 | centrx | jibrani, Does it show you the URL it tries to connect to, so you can check it? |
| 22:43.59 | rgr | your debian versins is what? And how did you install the driver? |
| 22:44.03 | rgr | version |
| 22:44.28 | jibrani | centrx: Thanks, but first of all, any idea how to exit the BusyBox console and return to the installer? |
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| 22:45.08 | centrx | jibrani, Alt-LeftArrow and Alt-RightArrow cycle between the terminals |
| 22:45.13 | grand_grunt | rgr: Wheezy, I installed with "aptitude install linux-headers-3.2.0-4-686-pae fglrx-driver" |
| 22:45.18 | centrx | jibrani, One of them is the installer |
| 22:45.26 | jibrani | centrx: Thanks :) |
| 22:46.09 | rgr | did you see DKMS kick off an compile in your driver? |
| 22:46.19 | grand_grunt | rgr: Well, no, checked my backlog : it's "fglrx-legacy-driver" |
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| 22:46.30 | rgr | backlog? |
| 22:46.33 | grand_grunt | rgr: Seems like.. no. Don't remember seeing that. |
| 22:46.38 | grand_grunt | rgr: bash_history |
| 22:47.08 | rgr | did you add the contrib and non-free to your sources.list as it says? |
| 22:48.00 | grand_grunt | Yes, added them in both wheezy-backports and wheezy lines |
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| 22:48.22 | rgr | eek. Are you also using the backports? (I dumped ATI ages ago for the slightly better supported NVidia but that was a while back). |
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| 22:48.52 | grand_grunt | rgr: Looks like backports are needed for legacy driver. It's a very old card. |
| 22:48.53 | rgr | and you created /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-fglrx.conf |
| 22:49.09 | rgr | (hand holding sometimes helps!) |
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| 22:49.39 | Jolt2bolt | I tried Jissie and passed of whezzy, how can repercute this in the perfomance of my pc? |
| 22:49.51 | rgr | is there an /etc/X11/xorg.conf present? |
| 22:49.55 | grand_grunt | yes, I did it. |
| 22:49.59 | jibrani | centrx: In the "Choose a mirror" questions the installer asks, under "protocol" I pick "http"; "country", I pick "United States"; "archive mirror", I pick "ftp.us.debian.org"; "proxy" I leave blank. It then says "Downloading release files..." and then asks whether I want wheezy, jessie or sid. I pick wheezy. After a few seconds, the background switches from blue to red and I get the error message I mentioned in my initial irc message |
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| 22:50.24 | rgr | and there is not xorg.conf? |
| 22:50.41 | grand_grunt | There is a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ with sub-files in it. |
| 22:50.53 | rgr | thats not what I asked. I asked specifically twice now. |
| 22:51.20 | grand_grunt | No, there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file. |
| 22:51.25 | rgr | I know there is an xorg.conf.d : I asked if you had created the fglrx config in there. I then asked you to if there was an xorg.conf in /etc/X11 |
| 22:51.28 | rgr | ok. |
| 22:51.33 | rgr | YOu did restart? |
| 22:51.37 | grand_grunt | Yes |
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| 22:51.43 | rgr | did you run aticonfig? |
| 22:51.46 | grand_grunt | No |
| 22:51.54 | rgr | https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary/Configuration |
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| 22:52.17 | rgr | (Im only walking through to help you spot an error. I just knew that X -configure wasnt the solution). |
| 22:52.36 | Jolt2bolt | is the debian wiki as good as arch wiki in terms of solutions posted there? |
| 22:52.53 | rgr | length of string comes to mind. |
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| 22:53.24 | centrx | jibrani, And you did the install by "download all the files from a daily build directory" ? |
| 22:54.09 | grand_grunt | rgr : aticonfig fails with "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected" |
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| 22:54.32 | rgr | have you tried lspci to see if your system sees the correct card? |
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| 22:55.26 | grand_grunt | rgr: It says it's a Radeon 9600.. almost sure it is not. Will check. :) |
| 22:56.15 | rgr | well, good luck. If I was a b*d I'd say ditch it and get a cheap nvidia card. Ive got to run now. best of luck - I know its incredibly frustrating especially when people say it should "just work". |
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| 22:56.46 | rgr | the main thing is to remember to clean up after yourself and not leave broken xorg files laying around. |
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| 22:57.39 | grand_grunt | It is a Radeon 9600, that's written on it. |
| 22:58.00 | grand_grunt | Will swap with some nVidia. :] |
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| 22:58.55 | bechesa | signoff |
| 23:00.37 | jibrani | centrx: Good question. Looks like I may have downloaded from http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-mipsel/current/images/loongson-2f/netboot/ rather than from http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/mipsel/daily/loongson-2f/netboot/ . Checking shortly. BRB |
| 23:01.46 | Wamphyri | Ìû |
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| 23:07.30 | jibrani | centrx: OK, I did download them from the right place after all: http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/mipsel/daily/loongson-2f/netboot/ . Have just double-checked the sha256 checksums to confirm. |
| 23:08.07 | Wamphyri | i'm using postfix and dovecot, can some one help me setup sasl with it please? |
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| 23:08.57 | b00md | I am running a server on EC2 and I am trying to get a subdomain to work. I've modified my apache config to point dashboard2.mvp-interactive.com to /var/www/dashboardv2 but for some reason it keeps looking for /var/www - any ideas? here is the pastebin - http://pastebin.com/0SEzFCen -- the main DNS is hosted with go GoDaddy and dashboardv2.mvp-interactive.com points to my linux server at |
| 23:08.57 | b00md | 50.19.234.248 |
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| 23:10.28 | centrx | jibrani, You could try: Discussion takes place on the #debian-yeeloong IRC channel at oftc and a mailing list debian-yeeloong-project@lists.alioth.debian.org. |
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| 23:14.06 | jibrani | centrx: Might have to give those a go. Haven't used either before, whereas I have used freenode before, which is why I came here first. Anyhow, you're a credit to the Debian community, thanks again for your efforts! Take care, bye :) |
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| 23:14.55 | centrx | Thanks. You are welcome. Cya |
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| 23:18.14 | horsik | guys |
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| 23:19.22 | horsik | i have problems with radeon hd 3470 |
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| 23:19.46 | horsik | 3d applications looks like this http://i.imgur.com/XxLjDCF.jpg |
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| 23:20.19 | horsik | i installed newest drivers, mesa 10 and kernel 3.13 |
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| 23:28.05 | gnu-man | anyone? |
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| 23:28.43 | centrx | eh |
| 23:29.00 | centrx | Did you ask a question an hour ago too? |
| 23:30.10 | jhutchins | gnu-man: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
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| 23:52.58 | hiyo | I am trying to install debian on my friend's server but when it comes to network detection it will show the progress bar and just go blank |
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| 23:53.41 | eristisk | Under Debian, the fan in my laptop is very loud and I'd like to turn it down. Under Arch it runs fine. |
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