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00:00.55trampelversions ffmpeg
00:01.26trampelnutz... what's the magic prefix here?
00:01.38nkuttler,v ffmpeg
00:01.40juddPackage: ffmpeg on i386 -- squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.15-dmo1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.6-1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 6:0.8.9-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.9-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.8-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.1.3-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.1.3-dmo2
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00:01.53trampelthank you!
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00:02.26themill(you want libav-tools not ffmpeg, however)
00:03.12trampelunfortunately libav-tools doesn't handle the ancient crippled nightmare crufty microsoftian video that i want to convert and ffmpeg does.  otherwise i'm solidly with you.
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00:05.28themilltrampel: ffmpeg isn't in debian, however.
00:05.34trampelright.
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00:05.47trampelit's in something like deb-multimedia
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00:05.56trampeli agree.
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00:06.30trampelactually i built my own ffmpeg.  then that killed my avcodec library and so i had to uninstall that and ... it's all too ugly
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00:12.17Jonh24hi! default key bind's ctrl-b (ctrl + b)?
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00:14.46nounchIn case someone is reading this and confused, the `pvdisplay' output stating that it is full is due to the fact that the disk is not larger andi it is already the max size and it is *not* causing the `lvextend' to complain about `insuficcient extent'.
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00:16.09eristiskHi, I am looking for the package for NASA World Wind in sid, but it seems to only be in squeeze and wheezy
00:16.21eristiskWhere can I find out why a package was removed from unstable/testing
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00:19.06nkuttlereristisk: package name?
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00:20.26eristisknkuttler: worldwind
00:20.35nkuttler,v worldwind
00:20.36juddPackage: worldwind on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.5.0-8; wheezy/non-free: 0.5.0-10
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00:21.27themill,bug rm worldwind
00:21.30juddBug http://bugs.debian.org/721853 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: worldwind -- RoQA; Deprecated»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-09-04; last modified: 2013-10-05.
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00:40.17eristiskDid you find anything about worldwind?
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00:40.28nkuttler,bug rm worldwind
00:40.28nkuttlereristisk: ^^
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00:40.28themilljudd isn't back from the network rollercoaster
00:40.28nkuttleryeah..
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00:40.29nkuttlereristisk: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=721853
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00:41.48nkuttlerMiesco_: /etc/init/gdm3 stop ?
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00:42.48Miesco_nkuttler: Isn't working
00:42.48Miesco_nkuttler: I'm root
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00:43.05nkuttlerMiesco_: define not work
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00:43.38Miesco_nkuttler: I mean gdm3 is still running
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00:43.48Miesco_nkuttler: That command does nothing
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00:43.55nkuttlerMiesco_: kill it then...
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00:44.07Miesco_nkuttler: pkill -9 gdm3?
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00:44.24nkuttlerMiesco_: try -15 first
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00:45.00Miesco_nkuttler: pkill -9 gdm3 doesn't work
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00:45.16nkuttlerMiesco_: never say "doesn't work" again.. be specific
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00:45.49nkuttlerMiesco_: and pastebin the exact command and output you get
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00:45.49Miesco_nkuttler: It does the same as I said before, all the processes are there
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00:47.28Miesco_vimel: I am root
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00:47.37Miesco_nkuttler: Yea that shows 7 processes with gdm3
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00:47.38Miesco_nkuttler: Do I need to be in a certain group as root?
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00:47.38Miesco_nkuttler: Like wheel or something?
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00:47.55nkuttlerMiesco_: no
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00:50.59Miesco_nkuttler: weird, if I use 'kill' it worked
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00:55.08vimeltry rebooting. then reinstalling gdm.
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18:11.13centrx_supremedigger3, There might be an import/export option
18:11.27centrx_supremedigger3, If the versions are very different, the profile format may have changed
18:11.37ScottEdigger3: It's possible the file locaion is the same - try renaming it back the way it worked for thunderbird
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18:12.17ScottEFor example, iceweasel still uses .mozilla/firefox, perhaps icedove uses the thunderbird directories as well
18:12.27noskloit does
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18:12.54digger3ScottE: just tried it, nope. Icedove doesn't auto-recognize the Thunderbird profile in .thunderbird
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18:14.00nosklodigger3: are the permissions correct?
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18:14.22petn-randalldigger3: IIRC correctly, you don't have to move anything. Icedove will set a symlink where it needs it and use your current thunderbird profile.
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18:15.03petn-randalldigger3: Only other thing that could be is that your profile from Ubuntu is a lot newer that what version Debian has. Then it might not work at all.
18:15.13digger3nosklo: not sure, .ssh permissions rsynced just fine from my old /home
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18:16.38digger3petn-randall: Both Ubuntu's TB and Icedove are at version 24, so that should work?
18:16.57petn-randalldigger3: Then it should work, zes.
18:16.59petn-randall*yes
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18:17.54cYmenI'm looking for a fast tool to find duplicate files. Any recommendations?
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18:18.47digger3petn-randall: ok, but sadly it does not. Any way to force the issue?
18:18.54cYmenSo far I have tried rmdupe and dupious but they seem to be both rather slow...
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18:20.47frostschutzcYmen, fdupes? if you actually do have duplicates, they're all slow, because the only way to know for sure is to read all the data of the duplicates and that just takes time
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18:21.29nosklodigger3: if you launch icedove without any folder, it should create its own folder. Did it?
18:21.29fingahow can i allow a whole range but deny one ip of the range in hosts.allow and or hosts.deny?
18:21.41nosklodigger3: you can use this to know for sure which folder it is using
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18:22.13digger3nosklo: yes I tried that, it creates a folder with a similar layout as TB
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18:25.17johskarWhat filesystem and tool should I use to back up files from a server to an attached USB harddrive? just stick with ext4 and rsync or are there "better" tools around?
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18:25.57digger3johskar: you might try rsync+btrs. btrfs is reasonably good at detecting silent corruption of backups in combination with scrub
18:26.01nosklodigger3: ok, I'm installing icedove to check
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18:26.20digger3nosklo: cool, thanks :)
18:26.41cYmenfrostschutz: yeah but there are a lot more files than duplicates so hashing and building a tree should be able to bring that down significantly
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18:26.57cYmenbut I don't really know if the tools are bad or if actually has to be THAT slow
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18:27.53nosklodigger3: inside the .icedove folder there is a folder with random chars and a profiles.ini file; maybe you can put your folder with random chars inside .icedove and edit profiles.ini accordingly
18:28.00johskardigger3: ok, I'll give that a shot then. Just need to write me some new scripts for it first if so :-)
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18:28.48digger3nosklo: I've compared the profiles.ini for the one generated by icedove and that of TB and the layout is exactly the same except for the profile-crypt-string
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18:30.50kalehi, i'm about to install debian as my server, but need some advice. I have a system i can install on, and the gradually move date configurations over. Once installation is complete i will move it to the right server. First of all is the an installation iso, which only installs what is needed to boot the system? I need no GUI
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18:32.10centrx_supremekale, Yes, it is called netinstall
18:32.23centrx_supremekale, http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
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18:32.54centrx_supremekale, Technically, it has more than needed to "just boot the system" (you can install Debian with two floppy disks, or at least you used to be able to), but it has a good base system to build from
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18:33.08adkinshello, i want to set up my thinkpad volume hot-buttons (in fluxbox). if i do in command line  "amixer sset Master,0 5%-" until it is muted completely the channels "speaker" and "PCM" go to zero to. If i then do "amixer sset Master,0 5%+" the speaker and pcm channels go up way too much just by sending this command ONCE. I dont want this. why are these other channels changing their level?
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18:33.36digger3nosklo: interestingly icedove creates a new profile creates a new profile if there isn't one, but it doesn't do this for the old .thunderbird folder. So it seems some of the auto-detection is working
18:33.44adkinsi only want to change the level of master nothing else
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18:33.55kalecentrx_supreme: i have no floppy drive :-( I'll download netinst and see what happens
18:33.57nosklodigger3: hmmm
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18:34.02nosklodigger3: is there a lock file inside the folder
18:34.12nosklodigger3: something with "lock" in the name
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18:35.28digger3nosklo: fuck, I made a typo, sorry, everything's fine, just moved the .thunderbird -> .thunderbird , oops
18:35.53nosklodigger3: what?
18:36.49digger3nosklo: I moved .thunderbird at some point to .thunderbird (probably incorrectly mv'ed .icedove to .thunderbird, causing them to be nested in eachother))
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18:37.16digger3nosklo: thanks for the assistance and sorry to have wasted your time
18:37.28jhutchinsadkins: Thinkpad keys usually work ok.  I suppose the obvious thing to try is a value other than 0 and other than 5%.
18:39.37adkinsjhutchins: the thinkpad-keys "volume up, volume down and mute" didnt work by default (using fluxbox on wheezy) but thats not the issue. you can ignore it. i`ll set up some fluxbox shortcuts on these keys but the behaviour i posted sucks
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18:41.40jhutchinsadkins: Again and rather obviously, try different values.
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18:42.33adkinsjhutchins: which values would you recommend? its the same with 1%
18:42.34kalei changed "wheezy" for "jessie" in sources.list, ran "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade" is that all there is to go to jessie?
18:42.57nosklodigger3: oh I see, you had .thunderbird/.thunderbird
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18:44.57RickyB98how do i tar a complete folder from shell?
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18:45.28kaleRickyB98: tar cf archiverfile.tar directory/
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18:47.26RickyB98thanks kale
18:48.20Tom01tar -cJf directory.tar.xz directory/
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18:49.39digger3nosklo: yeah, at some point I did :)
18:50.18kaleRickyB98: as Tom01 says consider z for gzip or j for bzip2
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18:50.56gelethis may be a stupid question, but is there any way to automatically install or even build from source the build dependencies of packages that you are building from source (e.g. for backporting) ?
18:51.08RickyB98kale if i wanted tar.gz ?
18:51.24digger3next issue: the sound volume of my USB terratec aureon is way too loud and it only produces *any* sound if I set up the volume to 80% or more. Anything below that and it's completely silent. Seems like I can only turn it on/off. Where should I look on how to fix this?
18:51.33kaleRickyB98: thats tar cfz ...
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18:51.51RickyB98thanks
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19:10.28neglesaks2Debian 7, have lost sound output on the sound out ports, the system will only play sound to the internal speaker. have checked sound control panel, nothing changed there. suggestions to fix?
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19:30.48mschulteWoohoo, got my Atheros (ath9k_htc) wireless adapters in; $15 shipped for 2x2 802.11n @ 2.4 GHz http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833704169
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19:37.11mschultewaqstar: We'll see how they work on the 600 MHz ARM beagleboard; should be fine though.
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19:38.51OkeeMy computer is doing very strange things this morning.  I had a lot of trouble starting Freenode from Linux, but no problem in Windows.  And now I can't join #xfce.
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19:38.54waqstarmschulte, nah should be alright
19:39.25centrx_vice_presOkee, And you think this is your computer, not Freenode?
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19:39.35kalei'm trying to install a setup where the root filesystem is placed in /dev/vg/root (lvm) on crypt on raid10, but i was unable to boot it. Is this unusual?
19:39.41jelly-homeneglesaks: what does alsamixer say (press F6 and pick the physical card if it defaults to pulseaudio)
19:39.48waqstarOkee, there was a ddos, maybe related.
19:39.49mcurranCan anybody help me identify which application is making my debian install run like pentium 2?
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19:40.16centrx_vice_presmcurran, Sure!
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19:40.34mcurranIt's all glitchy and pathetically slow.  I'm not sure if it's the nouveu driver or what but nautilus and firefox and anything is all skippy
19:40.34Okeewaqstar>  Hmm.  Why would anyone not like Freenode?  Freenode is one of the best networks out there.
19:40.35centrx_vice_presmcurran, Paste your process list
19:40.52mcurranwhere in flood or pastebin?
19:40.56centrx_vice_presmcurran, And yes, it could be the video driver
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19:41.06centrx_vice_pres!paste
19:41.06dpkgDo not paste more than 2 lines to this channel.  Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics.  Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB.  Remember to tell us the URL of your paste!  Cannot cut and paste?  Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>.
19:41.20waqstarOkee, not sure lol. it was a huge ddos. i think its back to normal now
19:41.28mcurrando you want "ps aux"?
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19:43.16centrx_vice_presmcurran, Yes
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19:44.02mcurranyeah there's a lot, but it still should be fine on a dual xeon server at 3.4GHz and 6GB RAM, here is the paste: http://paste.debian.net/79981/
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19:44.53centrx_vice_presmcurran, Actually, maybe pasting the output of top would be better
19:45.03mcurrank, hold on
19:45.16neglesaksjelly, i lists only HDAInel
19:45.19centrx_vice_presmcurran, (Also I never use Gnome because it is slow, so that /could/ be it, but probably not on a dual xeon with 6GB)
19:46.22abrotmanIt's not slow, but I'd suspect nouveau .. I use it on an intel card from 4 years ago, works well
19:46.35mcurranyeah, that's what i mean
19:46.49neglesaksinteresting app, alsamixer, by the way..
19:46.57jelly-homeneglesaks: that's it
19:46.58abrotmanmcurran: and I don't have nearly that much RAM in my laptop
19:46.58centrx_vice_presmcurran, mcurran   4047  103  6.9 2027744 425848 ?      Rl   01:00 848:30 /usr/bin/gnome-shell
19:47.07mcurrani have been running gnome with 3d acceleration for years now something is fishy
19:47.24centrx_vice_presThat is the process, using 100+ of CPU
19:47.36jelly-homeneglesaks: verify all the outputs are unmuted and set reasonably high
19:47.39abrotmantry it as a new user
19:47.41mcurrani have a gtx 660 in this thing and it runs games like gta iv at max specs 60fps
19:47.56abrotmanverify it's not a plugin or something else
19:47.57mcurranhow can you grab top
19:48.09jelly-homeneglesaks: pressing F3 will make just the outputs visible instead of outputs+inputs
19:48.13mcurranI can't get it to copy, so I'm installing htop and atop to try
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19:48.55jelly-homeneglesaks: cursors left and right to choose the output, up and down for volume, m for mute/unmute
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19:50.17mcurranI can reboot and try root, you saying that i should create a new user blank, ?  K, I'll be right back, you gonna be here?
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19:52.23neglesaksjelly-home, thank you for the info. trying now
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19:54.13neglesaksjelly-home, thank you. somehow the output got muted with my keyboard controls, but not visible on the alsamixer.
19:54.16neglesaksits fixed now. :)
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19:56.56waqstarWhich torrent clients do you guys use? I am looking for a good linux one
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19:58.23jgcampbell300im in need of assistance ... for some reason my computer cpus are getting maxed out doing the simplest of things .. right now im working on a calc and writer doc and spread sheet i have monitor open and now xchat and a browser ... watching the monitor when i go to save or do basic things on either one of my cores maxes out for a bit while the others stay low around 0-4%  im not sure what could be causing this
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19:59.45jgcampbell300i do have  quite a bit of resources on this work station .. 32G memory 600G HD's 2 dual core cpus
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20:00.30tremoncould be cpu throttling, either overheat protection or overzealous powersaving
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20:00.43jgcampbell300hmm
20:00.45tremonI'd check sensors and cpu frequency
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20:01.07waqstarwent with deluge :/
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20:01.17mcurranokay, I just logged into x with root and still everything is crawling:  I have to wait a few seconds after each click, scroll, or type
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20:01.50mcurranI'm even on a new kernel 3.14.0rc1, so that eliminates any kernel config
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20:02.29Rugurgh, I am frustrated!   NFS is to slow.    Debian server, OpenBSD client.  I have adjusted the rsize & wsize all the way from 1024 to 65536.  My max speed copying over NFS is ~300KB/s.  My average speed copy via scp is 40MB/s.  Any suggestions?
20:02.41RugI wonder if it's just incompatability between OpenBSD and Linux
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20:03.08mcurranI have ghrellm running and it's showing my CPU's (4cores) all at 98to99% and also my RAM at max
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20:03.50mcurranI'm gonna kill metasploit service and hopefully get some resources back.
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20:04.47mcurranso that stopped 3 services and now i'm still only in the lower to mid 90's
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20:06.00mcurranwhat is console-kit-daemon?
20:06.07gregc2Hey, I have two prolific usb db9 adapters on a usb bus. How do i assign each one to a specific device name?
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20:06.53tremongregc2: if they're identical, that's not possible
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20:07.14gregc2what if there connected to different usb hubs
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20:07.50tremonthat would work now, but there's no guarantee that the usb hubs will be enumerated the same on next reboot
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20:09.25tremonthe only way to make it work is to make your app detect what's on the other side of the link, and make the app choose the correct device to use
20:09.40tremonyay for hotplug and auto-enumeration
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20:10.19gregc2Im not a master of linux devices but shouldnt each get a unique id?
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20:10.39tremonyes, they do. But it'
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20:11.22tremon...s a unique id assigned by the kernel. And the kernel has no way to distinguish the two devices before assigning an id
20:11.49gregc2ah
20:12.15CutMeOwnThroatRug, seems to me we cannot say anything, that is not in http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/performance.html especially nobody can without any of the debugging tools there used... well, maybe one thing – sounds like something is quite drastically wrong, I would check logs including dmesg output for a flood of errors
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20:13.31tremongregc2: best thing to do is to get two different (manufacturer or model) db9 convertors (db9 == serial?)
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20:13.45gregc2yea
20:13.52gregc2but that will throw a wrench
20:13.55RugCutMeOwnThroat: yeah, I know.  But thanks for replying.   I can only assume there is some incompatability between openBSD & linux.
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20:14.59mcurranwhat's a good program for identifing memory leaks?  I just installed valgrind, but it seemed like it installed a lot of crap which I kinda want to remove
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20:15.41RugCutMeOwnThroat: I run NFS servers all over the play (but always linux-to-linux) and the performance is always amazing.
20:15.56kalemcurran: what do you mean by "memory leaks", as in programming errors?
20:16.00tremonmcurran: memory leaks rarely ever lead to high cpu usage, I'd expect to notice high i/o because of swap usage
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20:16.53gregc2i think i have an idea
20:16.56deceptionIs http://http.debian.net/debian the best mirror to use when using Debain on AWS EC2?
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20:17.20centrx_vice_presdeception, Use netselect to find the fastest mirror
20:17.24tremonmcurran: based on what you wrote, I'd start with downgrading the graphics driver or mesa. Or try a different DE
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20:19.22tremondeception: http.debian.net is a safe default. netselect might be able to find you a faster one, for probably minimal gain. only way is to try and see
20:20.26CutMeOwnThroatRug, possibly. but that's probably not a useful diagnosis :) nfsstat output seems like quite useful... specially as that big a hit in performance does suggest you are re-transmitting a lot of packets... for whatever reasons
20:20.27deceptionTrying out netselect now. I was getting horrible speeds with http.debian.net. Thanks for the tip
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20:21.19RugCutMeOwnThroat: thanks for the tip.  I will see what else I can some up with.
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20:22.03jhutchinsRug: You could do a tcpdump and see what the traffic is.
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20:22.58Rugjhutchins: that is a good idea.  I didn't even think of that.
20:22.59jhutchinsmcurran: Does top tell you which processes are hogging the CPU?  Is CPU Usage still high if you kill the GUI?
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20:23.28gregc2appears i can write a udev rule based on the serial.... but the usb device isnt listing the serial attr
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20:27.37freddenI'm having trouble cloning the lintian git repository. Error message reads: fatal: http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=lintian/lintian.git/info/refs not found: did you run git update-server-info on the server?
20:27.40DammitJimis there a command in linux to check for how long a connection has been going on?
20:27.54DammitJimlike this server I have makes connections to a DB2 server via port 50000
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20:28.04DammitJimand I have the feeling that those connections are not being torn down
20:28.29tremongregc2: iirc, you could use udev adminfo to list all kernel/device variables that you might key on.
20:28.30DammitJimI've tracked it down using lsof -p <pid>
20:28.59tremongregc2: or rather, udevadm info
20:29.06gregc2yeah
20:29.30gregc2what it boils down to if i can key on their usb hub position
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20:29.42gregc2i dont think that changes on reboot
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20:29.44gregc2testing now
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20:30.46cristiancv100somebody knows if is possible setup ldap tls with openssl certificates?
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20:31.08tremonwe had a similar question about a month ago. I don't think the "usb hub position" is available to key on, as other than the root hub, there is no device hierarchy. It's just one big broadcast bus
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20:31.29tremongregc2: although you might be able to plug them into different root hubs and key on that
20:31.52tremonno guarantee about root hub ordering though, but it might be safe to assume that it doesn't change
20:32.01gregc2can i go by root hub name
20:32.05gregc2ponders
20:32.14gregc2i have a raspberry pi with a
20:32.23gregc2powered usb hub from another vendor...
20:32.35deceptioncentrx, tremon, netselect found a way better mirror for AWS. Thanks!
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20:37.38ted20Hi guys! Where's ^b key in linux? This is ctrl + b?
20:38.11ompaulmostly
20:38.12ldnblkhi  there I have just installed vbox on debian squeeze 64bit, and when I configure a machine and try to start it I get this error messege. RTR3Init failed with rc=-1912 (rc=-1912) . I have installed the modules vboxnetadp,  vboxnetflt, vboxdrv . is there any one that might be able to assist ?
20:38.12ldnblk<PROTECTED>
20:38.12ldnblk<PROTECTED>
20:38.28centrxted20, It is on your keyboard...?
20:38.46ompaulldnblk: go install wheezy squeeze is about 100 days from end of support
20:39.52ted20centrx: i use a US keyboard layout
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20:40.47ompaulldnblk: also make sure your underlying o/s is also 64it
20:40.47abrotmanYou're confusing him ..
20:40.57centrxted20, I am not sure what you are asking
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20:41.24ompaulted20:  "CTRL b" at the same time
20:41.28centrxted20, Control characters are often represented with ^
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20:45.22jgcampbell300ok so my hardware seems to be fine but im still getting massive porcessor use when doing simple things on wheezy .. for instance when resizing moveing doing anything with iceweazle there is a noticable problem here ... procs runing up to 70-90% and not opperating properly
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20:45.47ted20centrx: ok, i know. why tmux doesn't react at ^b (ctrl + b)? Where is a problem? Config is default...
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20:46.43ompaulted20: that signal is sent to the application it may be ignoring it
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20:48.23ted20centrx: ok, but, i can't create a new window (for example ctrl-b + c). i've got a change config?
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20:48.47centrxted20, I don't know anything about tmux
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20:49.02centrxI open up multiple terminals the old fashioned way
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20:49.53ted20centrx: Why? ;)
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20:55.03abailarriHello. I buyed one domain I need to ad my nameservers to point to my vps, but not allows my vps. Anyone can help me? Is a bind9 problem?
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20:56.25ted20abailarri: show your bind configs ;)
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20:56.58wolsabailarri: do you run a authoritative DNS server for your domain?
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20:57.21cristiancv100please somebody help me, i trying to use slapd with support tls on wheezy, but i can get this works, how can i do that?
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20:58.07abailarriwols, do you refer to my vps¿
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20:59.25wolsabailarri: no.
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21:00.02wolsabailarri: if you don't know what this is, you don't run one. your problem is not with bind or debian but your DNS provider or registrar
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21:01.51abailarriwols, I don't have any DNS provider, only I have the domain provider and the vps provider
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21:14.02cybrNaut-what package implements the netinst installer?
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21:16.38anoobi have a problem with my shell script "... Syntax error: "(" unexpected" ... http://pastebin.com/RaiCxzrg
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21:20.33abrotmananoob: I bet it says more than that
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21:21.36anoobyou can see the whole output in the pastie abrotman ...
21:21.45anoobmultiple lines ...
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21:23.07DammitJimis there a way to see how much memory a subprocess is using?
21:23.29DammitJimI can see lsof gives me good details about a process
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21:24.17cybrNaut-i'll just write the bug against the kernel... it's close enough
21:24.19eikenbanoob. #!/bin/sh
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21:24.59anoobit's there eikenb
21:25.31eikenbanoob. ok, just wasn't there in the pastebin.
21:25.50anoobwasn't it?
21:26.22anoobyes i forgot it in the pastie ... sorry eikenb
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21:31.55thims_DammitJim: the --forest option in ps?
21:33.32DammitJimthanks thims ... that gives me info about the proces
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21:33.37DammitJimI want info about the subproceses
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21:33.50eikenbanoob. works for me. try running it with sh -x and watch the trace.
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21:34.09KiritoIf I've compiled a custom kernel on one Debian box, I can safely copy the generated .deb over to another machine running the same version of Debian with the same hardware, right?
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21:34.11KiritoAnd use it
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21:35.32anoobeikenb: http://pastebin.com/2301fnC5
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21:37.40eikenbanoob. the error is coming from the soundcloud-dl.sh script.
21:38.02anoobeikenb, i've changed "($soundcloud_dl_path "$audio_url") |" to "(bash $soundcloud_dl_path "$audio_url") |"
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21:38.07anooband it worked eikenb
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21:38.20anoobwith "sh" it doesn't work at all ...
21:38.38eikenbodd
21:39.17eikenbanoob. does soundcloud-dl.sh start with "#!/bin/sh" or "#!/bin/bash"?
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21:39.44anoobthis is it: https://github.com/lukapusic/soundcloud-dl/blob/master/scdl.sh eikenb
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21:41.54eikenbshrugs. yeah. it has bashism's in it... you have to call it with bash.
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21:43.04eikenbanoob. "function settags() {..." that is bash specific
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21:43.05anoobi see eikenb ... now it's working! thank you very much!
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21:43.11eikenbanoob. np.
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21:47.23xokhello all...
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21:47.56xokI have broken gnome, is there a chance to restore to the default debian install?.
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21:48.14xokanyone here?...
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21:48.43eikenbxok. patience.
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21:49.22xokeikenb: thanks...
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21:49.44eikenbI don't use gnome. But you could try looking in .config/ or .local/share/ for some settings you could move aside to see if it helps.
21:49.45masterkorphello fellow debian users
21:49.49masterkorphttp://pastie.org/8695673
21:49.51eikenbxok. ^
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21:50.03masterkorpi have this problem when installing build-essentials
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21:50.31masterkorpBasically I needed to install libc6 from the jessie repositories
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21:50.46masterkorpnow i dont need it anymore
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21:50.58masterkorpso i removed the sources
21:51.07xokeikenb: the problems is that, I am now writing from the GNOME, but the top panel and the bottom one (one that was showing the so called sys-tray) disappeared...
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21:51.13masterkorpi think i need to reinstall libc6
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21:51.33masterkorpbut i get this
21:51.36masterkorpReinstallation of libc6 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
21:51.50masterkorpwith the command apt-get install --reinstall libc6
21:51.55masterkorpany ideas ?
21:52.05xokmasterkorp: I think you need to install the *-dev package instead...
21:52.25masterkorpi did
21:52.51masterkorpxok: http://pastie.org/8695727
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21:53.05eikenbxok. yeah... not sure. I'd think if  you deleted/moved the gnome config in either .config/, .local, or one or more of the .gnome* directories you'd basically reset it back to defaults.
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21:53.48xokmasterkorp: it seems you are facing the version mismatch....
21:53.56masterkorpyeah
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21:54.08masterkorpi need to reinstall the wheezy libc6 version
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21:54.16masterkorpbut it just wont donwload it :(
21:54.40xokmasterkorp: hwo about manually finding, downloading and installing the package?..
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21:55.50frikinzapt-get install libc6/stable
21:56.05frikinznot sure downgrade actually is allowed
21:56.25masterkorpoh yeah that worked
21:56.27brontosaurusrexmasterkorp, and all your repos point to stable?
21:56.32masterkorpjust force the repository
21:56.39masterkorpbrontosaurusrex: yeah i removed it
21:56.43brontosaurusrexgreat.
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21:57.37masterkorpfrikinz: just in the same way i forced libc6/testing i would have used that
21:57.41masterkorpthank you guys
21:57.56masterkorpslides a some beers acrooss the table
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22:00.49masterkorpcdunklau: just torrent it
22:01.07masterkorpits not like you're stealing the others people beers
22:01.13cdunklauyou can torrent beer? what have i been doing with my life
22:01.14masterkorpjust duplicating
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22:37.59nmschulteman... what a pita.
22:38.13nmschulteAre the net services finally fully working again?
22:38.41vimeli believe so.
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22:39.15Dr_SThi folks, any member of #debichem around?
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22:43.01djD3fhow do i install google chrome for debian and not Chromium? or is there a difference?
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22:43.34nmschultedjD3f: there is a difference.  chrome.google.com will allow you to download a .dpkg to install, which will also setup a repository for apt.
22:43.36daemonkeeperhttp://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome
22:43.55djD3fok thank you
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22:46.23centrxdjD3f, There is no practical difference between the software. Use the Debian package.
22:46.32centrxdjD3f, chromium in the Debian repository.
22:46.42daemonkeeperExcept that Chromium will soon not release Flash anymore.
22:46.52centrxFlash is released by Adobe
22:47.04daemonkeeperAnd Chromium uses it through NPAPI.
22:47.07nmschultes/release/distribute/
22:47.09daemonkeeperUntil recently.
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22:47.15centrxSince when does chromium distribute Flash?
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22:47.22daemonkeeperI did not say it did.
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22:47.30nmschultes/release/utilize via NPAPI/
22:47.55daemonkeeperIt uses NPAPI, and support for NPAPI plugins was removed.
22:48.27daemonkeeperTherefore, Chromium will not support Flash anymore as soon as you upgrade to new versions.
22:48.29daemonkeeperi.e. really new.
22:48.35daemonkeeperhttp://blog.chromium.org/2013/09/saying-goodbye-to-our-old-friend-npapi.html
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22:50.37nmschulteNote that the built-in Flash plug-in and PDF viewer will be unaffected because they don’t use NPAPI.
22:50.46nmschulteFor Chrome.
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22:51.01nmschulteOr wiat... this is on the chromium blog, so... daemonkeeper?
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22:51.39daemonkeepernmschulte: Correct. For Chrome. But Chromium does not use the embedded plugins/renderers as they are non-free.
22:51.43nmschulteAlright; it says "Chrome" in the sentence before, so that applies to Chrome.
22:51.53centrxPeople still use Flash?
22:52.09nmschulteMan, that sucks!  My VMWare/vSphere integration is going bai bai.
22:52.20nmschulteI still use Flash when I have to, yeah.
22:52.40nmschulteFortunately, Gnash works well most of the time, though I have Adobe's Flash running right now.
22:52.50daemonkeeperWell, also NPAPI
22:52.58nmschulteA lot of google's own plugins are using NPAPI.
22:53.21nmschultegoogle Talk, "Apps Enhancements Plugin"
22:54.20babilenSo that wouldn't affect pepperflash or would it?
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22:54.59daemonkeeperPepperflash is the thing embedded in Chrome?
22:55.16nmschulteIsn't that "PPAPI"?
22:55.22babilendaemonkeeper: yeah
22:55.23daemonkeeperThen no.
22:55.25nmschulteI think that's still supported.
22:55.47babilenjudd: info pepperflashplugin-nonfree --release unstable
22:55.48nmschulte(Hence how Chrome will still have Flash and PDF viewier unaffected by the removal of NPAPI)
22:55.48juddPackage pepperflashplugin-nonfree (contrib/web, optional) in sid/i386: Pepper Flash Player - browser plugin. Version: 1.3; Size: 9.6k; Installed: 18k; Homepage: http://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer
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22:56.55nmschultebabilen: thanks for that package; didn't know it existed.
22:57.07babilenOh, np :)
22:57.38babilenIt essentially downloads Chrome and "extracts" the flash plugin
22:58.07daemonkeeperAt which point you probably could just use Chrome.
22:59.14Mongo44I downloaded all the Jido and Template files from here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/i386/jigdo-dvd/
23:00.05Mongo44Now my VM has only 4.1 KB out of 23.3 GB memory.
23:00.47jhutchinsMongo44: Ok.
23:00.59jhutchinsMongo44: Give it more memory.
23:01.16jhutchinsMongo44: It probably won't be happy without at least 512M.
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23:01.32jhutchinsMongo44: Or are you talkinging about disk space?
23:01.33nmschultedaemonkeeper: I don't like that Chrome wants me to connect my Google Account all the time. :/
23:01.45Mongo44All I want is to burn an ISO on a DVD to start over with a new OS.
23:01.54daemonkeeperAs far as I know this can be disabled
23:01.55jhutchinsnmschulte: That's what you signed on for if you chose chrome.
23:01.58nmschultebabilen: if I `aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree`, will that kill off everything it's built?
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23:02.20nmschulteNothing wrong with Chromium.  :shrug:
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23:03.28DexterFgreetings
23:03.28nmschultejhutchins: Yeah, that's why I didn't choose Chrome.
23:03.47Mongo44OK the ISO is only about 21 MB.
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23:04.22Mongo44I am just wondering why it took something like 5 hours to download.
23:04.54djD3fwoot now i have my colorful chrome icon :)
23:04.56djD3fthanks!
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23:05.58babilenMongo44: Images are typically simply downloaded directly from the website via http
23:06.04babilendpkg: tell Mongo44 -about install debian
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23:06.19DexterFmy deb7 server started to crawl a bit when doing file operations. say decompressing archives or moving large files (couple gigs) around. let's say move a 4GB file from an ext4 on a dedicated sata disk to a softraid5 with xfs, used to perform at 60-100MB/s, no is at around 10. no clue why. no big cpu hogs running, half of 8GB ram used for programs/system, rest is caches
23:06.50DexterFhow can I spot the bottleneck?
23:07.25Azrael_-hi
23:07.30DexterFit recently ran out of RAM shortly, I suspect a cache issue
23:08.11Azrael_-got a strange server here. it starts and i can ping it but nothing is written into /var/log "ls -lrt" still shows the last modification being done at the time i triggered a restart. any idea?
23:09.28DexterFAzrael_-: what does "mount" say about the fs that /var sits on? is it mounted read-only perhaps?
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23:16.04Azrael_-DexterF: /var is on the root-partition
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23:18.56DexterFAzrael_-: well, is / ro?
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23:20.04Azrael_-DexterF: as i can't ssh anymore into the normal system i can only use a rescue-system and there i can mount / rw
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23:21.00DexterFAzrael_-: ah, so ssh takes you into recovery kernel? does blkid or cat /proc/partitions show the usual stuff you'd expect?
23:21.33Mongo44The disk usage analyzer says about 17 GB of memory is used in my home folder but it only shows about 1.2 GB in various folders. Where is the other 15.8 GB?
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23:23.12Mongo44I just removed about 1 GB maybe if I reboot it will reflect that. How big should a Wheezy ISO be?
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23:23.36Azrael_-DexterF: yes
23:24.04frostschutzMongo44, hidden .config files? .trash-like?
23:24.05DexterFAzrael_-: can you manually create a file in /var/log?
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23:25.44towskidistressI'm trying to find a good way to back up a hard drive to a usb drive
23:25.59towskidistressright now I'm using 100gb/500gb of my local hard drive
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23:26.27towskidistressi could just make an image of the whole 500gb hard drive
23:26.36Azrael_-DexterF: yes
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23:27.04frostschutztowskidistress, rsync?
23:27.16towskidistressyeah I looked at that too, though it seemed a little messy
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23:27.28towskidistressI guess it wouldn't be too bad to restore using rsync?
23:27.41towskidistressI also ran into some file errors when I tried it
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23:27.50frostschutzis it a USB3 drive? 500GB through USB2 takes quite a while, and you can't run it while fs are mounted, as it would corrupt the image
23:27.51DexterFAzrael_-: hmm. how can you tell the recovery mode?
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23:28.53drwahli've applied to become a debian developer. i got the email with the gpg encrypted link, however when i click on the link, it renders a page that says "we're sorry, but the requested page could not be found". who should i contact about this?
23:29.03towskidistressfrostschutz: it is a usb3 drive
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23:29.33towskidistressfrostschutz: "can't run it while fs are mounted", either fs?
23:29.44Mongo44Someone have dpkg tell me about the install guide. For some reason he is telling me he doesn't know.
23:29.45towskidistressI guess I did suspect that
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23:32.36DexterFAzrael_-: in recovery, I guess the leg daemon is not started to prevent writes. to the existing logs hint at why it boots to recovery?
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23:34.05Azrael_-DexterF: in recovery they boot the rescue-system with bootp without any modifications to the disks
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23:34.16Azrael_-and this works just fine
23:34.46DexterFAzrael_-: no physical acccess to the machine I guess?
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23:35.11Azrael_-DexterF: unfortunately not, otherwise i wouldn't be that clueless. i have no chance to have a look at the bootup-messages :(
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23:35.58Mongo44Why does the website recommend using Jigdo?
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23:37.10DexterFAzrael_-: any way to force booting the "real" kernel? I actually never had to do that. grub2?
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23:39.09Azrael_-DexterF: what do you mean with "force booting"? if i set the server to boot from hd, then i can ping the server but no services seem to start. and if i look into the logs lateron using the rescue-system, nothing is written there :(
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23:40.09DexterFAzrael_-: updated anything recently?
23:40.24Azrael_-normally i'd think, if you can ping the machine, the system has properly started as it was able to read the network-configuration and also written some logs
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23:40.33Azrael_-there was a mysqld update i ran
23:40.59Azrael_-nothing critical
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23:42.38DexterFAzrael_-: no way to continue booting from recovery to the real system?
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23:43.34Azrael_-DexterF: i chrooted into the real system by binding proc+sys and all other partitions but i have no clue how i could continue booting from recovery. needed at least some guidance
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23:45.39DexterFAzrael_-: wouldn't know. since no logs at all are written I'd say it already borks at booting the kernel. maybe a hosed initrd. in the chroot, one could try and install another kernel (same version but realtime patched or such), but to be hinest I would't know how to remotely tell the machine to boot a specific kernel wehn more than one is installed
23:45.42Mongo44I think that iso is much more than the 21.4 MB that it is showing. It took like 4 hours with an average speed of say 350 KB/sec.
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23:47.45ir8Can someone help me resolve this issue: python2.6-dev (>= 2.6.6-1~) but it is not going to be installed
23:47.51Azrael_-setting a specific kernel for booting with grub isn't that difficult for a normal start but to continue booting from resue... no clue
23:48.02nkuttler!tell ir8 about bat
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23:48.45biberaoyo
23:48.58biberaoi did this modprobe capability module not found
23:48.59biberaoany ideas?
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23:50.08biberaoplease
23:50.11DexterFAzrael_-: well, I'd try a different kernel to rule out initrd/kernel issues. apart from that I'm outta ideas.
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23:59.53ir8http://pastebin.com/sbE5xEsC
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